From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 16:28:14 2010 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:28:14 -0500 Subject: The Slingbox was Re: Bongiovi Acoustics - iTunes DPSPlugin In-Reply-To: <0BDF6729-4BB8-44B1-B4B9-55C76F14FA0F@netspace.net.au> References: <3A6D661E-EE31-45E9-BC2C-266F05487E0A@gmail.com> <889C5591-A911-4980-8735-37703B93A8D8@netspace.net.au> <5A39154F-8CAE-412A-A4D4-BBADC11F7FC0@mac-access.net> <92B0B0DD-9646-4F1B-B92B-387C73D1C266@netspace.net.au> <0BDF6729-4BB8-44B1-B4B9-55C76F14FA0F@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <29609243-FDF6-4AD7-94E4-9B52E71042E2@gmail.com> Hi, I'm thinking about getting a slingbox here in the U.S. but I'm just curious, does my TV have to be on if I'm watching the TV from a different location? Also, how accessible is the software, and which model do I need, I don't particularly need the slingbox pro, do I? Thanks, Courtney On Dec 31, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > That sounds cool! I've never really looked into the slingbox here in Australia, but I might do that. It would be really cool if we could for example record shows on different computers. I really only watch Doctor Who, but my son watches a fair bit of TV, and my wife does as well. And I'm not particularly into the shows that she wants to watch etc!!!! > > I had a bit more of a play with the dps plugin, and apart from the two accessibility concerns I mentioned, I quite like it. It would be cool though if you could change the perameters of the profiles! > > Vaughn. > On 31/12/2010, at 11:07 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hello Vaughn >> >> I will try to play with this either tonight or tomorrow. Currently I'm fighting a sightly different though in some ways related battle. We have two Slingobxes and I'm trying to get them to work side-by-side. A challenge because of the way the Slingbox works. But doable. >> >> What I like about these devices is the compatibility. They're now using a browser-based system, and the plug-in for Safari lends itself extremely well, now, to Voiceover. I contacted them and asked them if they could make a couple of small changes to their plugin to make it accessible. I got a nice message back thanking me for being so very specific in details and within about 4 hours their plugin was updated and made completely accessible. I think they may have done the same to the Windows version. But the nice irony is that the Mac version is more accessible than the Windows version was the last time I checked, and the streaming quality is fantastic. >> >> I mention all this because I know you have an interest in watching TV. But I will try now to play with the plug-in. I honestly wish we could export specific preferences per application because Lynne has said that she will label all the buttons for me. >> >> Gordon >> >> >> On 31 Dec 2010, at 00:50, Vaughn Bennison wrote: >> >>> I have started preparing a report for the developer, but I only had about two minutes to play with it yesterday! The main problem is that the buttons aren't labelled. They do have help tags though, so it's not unuseable. In the prefferences dialogue, when you pass over the four different tabs, it automatically selects them. The only workaround I have found for it apart from turning off cursor tracking, is to go to the tab you you want, then go to the end of the dialogue and arrow back. Also it seems that the processor isn't turned on by default, and it's a toggle button, so you can't tell whether it's on or off. >>> >>> Vaughn. >>> >>> On 31/12/2010, at 6:59 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Vaughn >>>> On 30 Dec 2010, at 00:00, Vaughn Bennison wrote: >>>> >>>>> It does work, but it's not the most accessible product out there! >>>> >>>> In which case, I will have Gordon test it and write a polite letter to the developers. That is the way you have people help you; not ranting and raving as some seem to think; present company excluded. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From support at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 16:36:36 2010 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:36:36 +0000 Subject: Important Status Change: Please Read! Message-ID: <3B09AEF7-0047-41BA-885F-DCD83E9003AE@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Firstly, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very peaceful and prosperous new year. For us personally, 2010 hasn't been a very good year at all. We're hoping for better in 2011. But in any case, may 2011 bring you lots of luck, joy and prosperity. We are very much looking forward to seeing where Mac Access goes this year. We are anticipating a busy year with lots of exciting news. In fact, the first little bits of news starts right now, hence the purpose of this posting. We will also have exciting news coming along in January and February; watch this space. So here goes with the first little bit. This is an important system announcement for those people who either occasionally or routinely use our list archive. Because VoiceOver doesn't handle large searchable groups at all well, we have decided to modify the behaviour of the list archives. Instead of archiving all messages into annual volumes, we have decided to increase the frequency of fresh archives being created from annually to monthly. This should make things easier for those of you who use VoiceOver and who do like to make use of our archives. Currently, the 2010 archive volume remains in an annual form. But we are investigating the possibility of reorganising it so that it appears monthly. However, as of 1 January 2011, this new behaviour will take effect. We hope that it will make things easier for people, and we do welcome feedback. Actually we took this decision based on feedback from one of our most dedicated archive users. So we hope you will be pleased. And rest assured that we are going to investigate the possibility of re-organising the 2010 archives as well. We do listen to suggestions if approached in the right way. If you have any, please feel free to contact us using the support address. Lynne From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 16:50:18 2010 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:50:18 -0500 Subject: Any luck with Radioshift? Message-ID: <31F997EA-A3F1-4848-A78C-93BBDE5F5615@gmail.com> Hi, Has anyone had any luck recording internet radio streams with radioshift? If so, how can this be done? Thanks, Courtney From davetaylor at tafn.org.uk Fri Dec 31 17:12:47 2010 From: davetaylor at tafn.org.uk (David Taylor) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:12:47 +0000 Subject: Promoting other resources In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40D8A600-A932-4DB7-91B2-931616B7D973@tafn.org.uk> I've never been patronised so badly by a list owner in my life and this is my final message ever here! Talking to people as if they are two years old so publically is no way to gain respect or favours. I would respectfully suggest that you read message headers, and do not do things under false pretences! You are clearly in the Steve Jobs league as a control freak, but not skilled in it! After all, you can't even use 1980s terminology about blind people, let alone 21st century! Calling us "the blind" died out with the ark! We will henceforth encourage Apple discussion more on the BCAB list! On 30 Dec 2010, at 22:59, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi David > > OK, let me try, again, to clarify our position. Since you are determined to make this a public discussion. And I ask that others on list accept my apologies for the repeated posting of this information. > > Our reason for objecting David was that we believed that cross-posting was taking place between this and other lists. That is something we strongly discourage as it puts the group at risk of losing its unique identity, and also of losing members because members often don't want to see the same information twice, three times, or more on different lists. > > Evidence has shown this to be the case in the recent past. Users have left the group because they were seeing duplicate messages and, therefore, didn't see it as worth while. That, and only that, is the reason we objected to the discussion. Whether you believe me or not is entirely up to you. > > Have you heard us objecting when somebody comes up with an accessible resource? No, of course you haven't because it's good for everybody. The same is true of groups, as long as there is no cross-posting between this and other groups. > > For example, we know that Keith Reedy has run a VoiceOver users list for a very long time. That's great, the more help out there the better it is. There are also several other groups out there which deal with the iPhone and iPod. Excellent! The more the merrier! > > Again David, you believe me or not, that's your choice. But if you are determined to make an issue out of this, I'm perfectly willing to discuss with you as long as it doesn't turn in to one of those 'I said, you said" arguments. Frankly, I don't think that's in anybody's interest. > > So let me tell you one more time, and this is the last time I will do so on list. If anybody knows of other resources which others may find of use, by all means give them a mention on lit. As long, and this is the proviso we make unilaterally, as there is no interaction between the groups in terms of content. By that, I mean that as long as the same messages aren't cross-posted except for exceptional instances where specific events are taking place. > > For example, if a conference or other event is taking place which is of interest to Mac users, then of course it needs to be publicised. In that event, it is only natural that it's going to be mentioned in different groups. That is the exception, and to satisfy the needs of the more argumentative type on list, , I will be updating list policy to cover this eventuality. > > David, I hope you are reading this bit. The only thing to which we object is the cross posting of messages which deal with routine conversations. Such as things like "Hey, where can I buy a headset?" between groups. > > I can see both sides of this. The user wants to get their question out into the open. We have thought long and hard about that and here's clarification for you yet again, since it seems to be needed. It's not our objective to prevent freedom of speech. But we need to protect our unique identity and we do not, for instance, want to be seen as a dumping ground for traffic which starts life on Mac Visionaries. > > That all having been said, it may well be the case that somebody posts a question on another list but doesn't get an answer. If, in that event, they then choose to write a new message posing the same question on here, fine! Just don't cross-post to both lists at the same time, that's all we ask. > > If, on the other hand, you want to get a message over such as "BCAB will be holding an Apple Day at" blah blah blah, then by all means feel free to post that message here, regardless of whether you have posted it elsewhere. Don't carbon copy though, as you might well find your message is automatically rejected. > > Am I making myself clear now David? I will end by just gently pointing out two more things. First, you were sent a copy of the list policy document when you joined this group. If you didn't read it that isn't my fault. . Also, we have made it perfectly clear that Lynne and I are more than willing, if approached in the right manner, to consider making changes to list policy. We are not arrogant enough to presume that we know best, and that we are right all of the time. So if you have suggestions which you think might improve the group, by all means contact us but please do so off list. > > I am now going to make the required changes to the list policy document because clearly, on the assumption that anybody has actually read that document, it seems that there are certain ambiguities which require addressing. > > This is in no way a personal issue David, and again, Lynne and I are more than happy to discuss with you if you have concerns, as long as it's done in the right way. We are not, however, interested in public arguments. > > Gordon > > On 30 Dec 2010, at 11:07, David Taylor wrote: > >> Gordon, >> >> I must apologise, but I must make this point in public. In a discussion some time ago about very specific UK braille display and code issues on this list, I pointed somebody at the Braille-UK list, and was roundly told that the only place for such discussions was on your own technology list, despite the fact that the place where the relevant person could get the help they needed was in the braille community rather than the Mac community. The fact is that there is little cross-over between membership of this list and of the braille lists, and so your other lists will not be known. Granted it was not yourself, but your partner, who roundly told me off on list. I am aware that the organisers of this list do a fantastic job in very many ways, but feel there is a dis-connect between the Mac-Access world and what is going on in the rest of the VI world in the UK, through lists like BCAB, Access-UK, Braille-UK and so on. Each list has its own unique characteristics, so I was disap > po >> inted to be told that other lists should not be promoted as they seemed to be viewed as competition, not complimentary. I don't do politics or personalities, I just try to make sure people can get the help they need from where ever that is best done. I would say that for OS X issues in particular, that is here. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From miketownsend at talk21.com Fri Dec 31 17:44:27 2010 From: miketownsend at talk21.com (Mike Townsend) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:44:27 -0000 Subject: any hope In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002f01cba912$5f587810$1e096830$@talk21.com> Hi Carolyn I have not read all this thread. However, my wife dropped her ipone down the loo! It was dead but for the recharging vibration when plugged in. She took it to the Apple Store and told them what had happened. They looked at it and then gave her, for free, a replacement. Worth a try? Thanks. Mike -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Carolyn Wagner Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:11 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: any hope Does any one know if there is any hope for my iphone that was dropped in a bucket of water? Any hope at all? _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 18:10:31 2010 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:10:31 -0800 Subject: any hope In-Reply-To: <99DB5448-F8CB-4671-85DF-5C166515AC15@mac-access.net> References: <2A332728-97DB-4C87-8805-563C30455F28@gmail.com> <2647BBB2-B60C-41C3-BC6E-8DFAC58B37FC@me.com> <99DB5448-F8CB-4671-85DF-5C166515AC15@mac-access.net> Message-ID: You don't. just try and get as much water out through all the holes and then put it in a tightly sealed bag or container of uncooked rice. Let it sit for 2 to 5 days. S On Dec 31, 2010, at 6:32 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm curious, how would you remove the battery from an IPhone? From what I've seen, this is not possible as the back surface is completely flat and smooth. > > Thanks > Take care > James > On 31 Dec 2010, at 14:28, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> I just wanted to second Sarah's suggestion. I know several people who have dropped their cell phones in water, put them through the wash, or had them damaged in the rain. The most common cure reported by these folks was to use the following method: Remove the battery from the phone, place the phone in a bag of uncooked rice, squeeze the bag to remove as much air as possible, seal the bag and let it sit for up to a week. Unfortunately, none of these cell phones were iPhones so I can't vouch 100 percent for this but it might be worth a try. >> >> HTH, >> Bryan >> >> On Dec 31, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> Try soaking it in a air tite bag of rice for about 2 or 3 days. then plug your phone in and hope it works. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 18:13:08 2010 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:13:08 -0800 Subject: Important Status Change: Please Read! In-Reply-To: <3B09AEF7-0047-41BA-885F-DCD83E9003AE@mac-access.net> References: <3B09AEF7-0047-41BA-885F-DCD83E9003AE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thanks for the update. I don't use the archives but it will make things easier. Have you guys considered using the mail archive? I use it for everything i do. google the mail archive or check out http://themailarchive.org. I believe that's the web address. Take care and happy holidays. S On Dec 31, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Firstly, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very peaceful and prosperous new year. For us personally, 2010 hasn't been a very good year at all. We're hoping for better in 2011. But in any case, may 2011 bring you lots of luck, joy and prosperity. We are very much looking forward to seeing where Mac Access goes this year. We are anticipating a busy year with lots of exciting news. > > In fact, the first little bits of news starts right now, hence the purpose of this posting. We will also have exciting news coming along in January and February; watch this space. So here goes with the first little bit. > > This is an important system announcement for those people who either occasionally or routinely use our list archive. Because VoiceOver doesn't handle large searchable groups at all well, we have decided to modify the behaviour of the list archives. Instead of archiving all messages into annual volumes, we have decided to increase the frequency of fresh archives being created from annually to monthly. This should make things easier for those of you who use VoiceOver and who do like to make use of our archives. > > Currently, the 2010 archive volume remains in an annual form. But we are investigating the possibility of reorganising it so that it appears monthly. > > However, as of 1 January 2011, this new behaviour will take effect. We hope that it will make things easier for people, and we do welcome feedback. > > Actually we took this decision based on feedback from one of our most dedicated archive users. So we hope you will be pleased. And rest assured that we are going to investigate the possibility of re-organising the 2010 archives as well. > > We do listen to suggestions if approached in the right way. If you have any, please feel free to contact us using the support address. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 18:14:56 2010 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:14:56 -0800 Subject: iPad and the calendars - keychain In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: to answer your first question about the keyboard try double tapping and holding the edit field for about 1 or 2 seconds. this works on the iphone and it is a bug that was introduced in ios4.1 in ipad versions that would be I think 3. S On Dec 26, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Renee M. Zelickson wrote: > I just upgraded to the Mobleme calendar and am trying to find how to create shared events Is anyone using this? and if so, have you noticed that when you want to write a note at the bottom of the event, you need to shut voiceover off in order to get the keyboard to appear. > > also regarding the iPad, Is there a way to bring the keychain across? I have download a program called E-Wallet that is supposed to allow you to enter your credit card and other kinds of secure information in it, but it is not accessible. I have been in touch with the developers and received a work around once you have the card entered to read it, but I told them this is not acceptable > > I am tired of paying for stuff that is not voiceover accessible. Does anyone know of a program I can keep on the ipad to allow me to access my secure stuff when I am away from home? I have been trying to have the keychain on the Mac shared with the mobileme but not successful > > > > Renee M. Zelickson > renee at zeli.net > www.zeli.net > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 19:31:41 2010 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:31:41 +0000 Subject: any hope In-Reply-To: <2647BBB2-B60C-41C3-BC6E-8DFAC58B37FC@me.com> References: <2A332728-97DB-4C87-8805-563C30455F28@gmail.com> <2647BBB2-B60C-41C3-BC6E-8DFAC58B37FC@me.com> Message-ID: <9E9C43BC-F317-4DEF-BA83-8F97D60033A4@mac-access.net> hello Bryan I honestly don't see how this will work in the case of an iPhone. For a start, you can't remove the battery or back cover as they're not user changeable. Lynne On 31 Dec 2010, at 14:28, Bryan Jones wrote: > I just wanted to second Sarah's suggestion. I know several people who have dropped their cell phones in water, put them through the wash, or had them damaged in the rain. The most common cure reported by these folks was to use the following method: Remove the battery from the phone, place the phone in a bag of uncooked rice, squeeze the bag to remove as much air as possible, seal the bag and let it sit for up to a week. Unfortunately, none of these cell phones were iPhones so I can't vouch 100 percent for this but it might be worth a try. From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 19:36:18 2010 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:36:18 +0000 Subject: any hope In-Reply-To: <99DB5448-F8CB-4671-85DF-5C166515AC15@mac-access.net> References: <2A332728-97DB-4C87-8805-563C30455F28@gmail.com> <2647BBB2-B60C-41C3-BC6E-8DFAC58B37FC@me.com> <99DB5448-F8CB-4671-85DF-5C166515AC15@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6E951B95-BC54-43CA-9685-A10DD9B8E8F1@mac-access.net> Hello James On 31 Dec 2010, at 14:32, James AUSTIN wrote: > > ? I'm curious, how would you remove the battery from an IPhone? From what I've seen, this is not possible as the back surface is completely flat and smooth. > I think you are correct. I could be wrong; but I think Bryan and Sarah are referring to other models of phone. Apparently there are sensors in the iPhone anyway which, if exposed to water, would malfunction. But I honestly don't see this working in the case of an iPhone. Even assuming you got the battery out, how do you fix the sensors? I'm not electrically clued up but I would think that water would result in a million short circuits anyway which would render the iPhone useless. I'm sure an Apple technician could disassemble the iPhone but I don't know so much about a user with no specialist equipment. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 19:38:47 2010 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:38:47 +0000 Subject: Bongiovi Acoustics - iTunes DPSPlugin In-Reply-To: <0BDF6729-4BB8-44B1-B4B9-55C76F14FA0F@netspace.net.au> References: <3A6D661E-EE31-45E9-BC2C-266F05487E0A@gmail.com> <889C5591-A911-4980-8735-37703B93A8D8@netspace.net.au> <5A39154F-8CAE-412A-A4D4-BBADC11F7FC0@mac-access.net> <92B0B0DD-9646-4F1B-B92B-387C73D1C266@netspace.net.au> <0BDF6729-4BB8-44B1-B4B9-55C76F14FA0F@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <678B7174-86DC-4D0D-A35D-4064AB232AEB@mac-access.net> Hello Vaughn On 31 Dec 2010, at 14:58, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > ? That sounds cool! I've never really looked into the slingbox here in Australia, but I might do that. It would be really cool if we could for example record shows on different computers. I really only watch Doctor Who, but my son watches a fair bit of TV, and my wife does as well. And I'm not particularly into the shows that she wants to watch etc!!!! > The Slingbox Pro is available in Australia. The Pro HD isn't for some reason but you can certainly get the Pro over there. > ? I had a bit more of a play with the dps plugin, and apart from the two accessibility concerns I mentioned, I quite like it. It would be cool though if you could change the perameters of the profiles! > How do you access it from iTunes? Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 19:40:14 2010 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:40:14 +0000 Subject: Accessing iTunes Plugins In-Reply-To: <1FC0CE1E-C3F8-43CC-988F-FB8090ABEE26@netspace.net.au> References: <1FC0CE1E-C3F8-43CC-988F-FB8090ABEE26@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <4960FF1B-7A5F-4C0E-9B12-7B2BB56AF543@mac-access.net> Hello Vaughn On 31 Dec 2010, at 15:00, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > ? You can access that particular window through the window menu, as you do when accessing EQ etc. On my machine, I can press command-option-3, but i think that would depend on what plugins you had installed. > Ah! the only place we didn't look! Thank you I will go and tell Gordon now. Lynne > Vaughn. > On 31/12/2010, at 12:24 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi alol >> >> Stupid question I guess but how do you access plugins for iTunes? I just got around to installing DPS and I can't find it. >> >> Gordon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 19:45:42 2010 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:45:42 +0000 Subject: The Slingbox was Re: Bongiovi Acoustics - iTunes DPSPlugin In-Reply-To: <29609243-FDF6-4AD7-94E4-9B52E71042E2@gmail.com> References: <3A6D661E-EE31-45E9-BC2C-266F05487E0A@gmail.com> <889C5591-A911-4980-8735-37703B93A8D8@netspace.net.au> <5A39154F-8CAE-412A-A4D4-BBADC11F7FC0@mac-access.net> <92B0B0DD-9646-4F1B-B92B-387C73D1C266@netspace.net.au> <0BDF6729-4BB8-44B1-B4B9-55C76F14FA0F@netspace.net.au> <29609243-FDF6-4AD7-94E4-9B52E71042E2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1D939251-A640-4FD1-8933-BC5EDEEDE88E@mac-access.net> Hello Courtney On 31 Dec 2010, at 16:28, Courtney Curran wrote: > ? I'm thinking about getting a slingbox here in the U.S. but I'm just curious, does my TV have to be on if I'm watching the TV from a different location? No. As long as you either have the inbuilt tuner selected or a video source that is turned on and connected correctly it does not require your TV. > ? Also, how accessible is the software, and which model do I need, I don't particularly need the slingbox pro, do I? It depends on what you want. If you don't want the inbuilt tuner and only have one source, no, you can use the Solo. But I strongly advise the Pro because the Solo is going out of production and won't be supported for too much longer. As for the software, it is totally accessible. The Mac desktop client is no longer supported, but it can still be used. Nowadays they use a web browser plugin which works perfectly with VoiceOver. If you want more info contact either myself or Gordon off list. We have 2 of these boxes so I think we are qualified to help you. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 19:48:32 2010 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:48:32 +0000 Subject: Important Status Change: Please Read! In-Reply-To: References: <3B09AEF7-0047-41BA-885F-DCD83E9003AE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <88615DA8-6720-4FCF-AA38-08CFBBC41552@mac-access.net> Hello Sarah Ho, we haven't considered it, and we won't be doing so. We keep everything in-house. Lynne On 31 Dec 2010, at 18:13, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Thanks for the update. I don't use the archives but it will make things easier. Have you guys considered using the mail archive? I use it for everything i do. google the mail archive or check out http://themailarchive.org. I believe that's the web address. > > Take care and happy holidays. > > S > On Dec 31, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> Firstly, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very peaceful and prosperous new year. For us personally, 2010 hasn't been a very good year at all. We're hoping for better in 2011. But in any case, may 2011 bring you lots of luck, joy and prosperity. We are very much looking forward to seeing where Mac Access goes this year. We are anticipating a busy year with lots of exciting news. >> >> In fact, the first little bits of news starts right now, hence the purpose of this posting. We will also have exciting news coming along in January and February; watch this space. So here goes with the first little bit. >> >> This is an important system announcement for those people who either occasionally or routinely use our list archive. Because VoiceOver doesn't handle large searchable groups at all well, we have decided to modify the behaviour of the list archives. Instead of archiving all messages into annual volumes, we have decided to increase the frequency of fresh archives being created from annually to monthly. This should make things easier for those of you who use VoiceOver and who do like to make use of our archives. >> >> Currently, the 2010 archive volume remains in an annual form. But we are investigating the possibility of reorganising it so that it appears monthly. >> >> However, as of 1 January 2011, this new behaviour will take effect. We hope that it will make things easier for people, and we do welcome feedback. >> >> Actually we took this decision based on feedback from one of our most dedicated archive users. So we hope you will be pleased. And rest assured that we are going to investigate the possibility of re-organising the 2010 archives as well. >> >> We do listen to suggestions if approached in the right way. If you have any, please feel free to contact us using the support address. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Fri Dec 31 20:24:35 2010 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 20:24:35 +0000 Subject: BBC IPlayer with the Mac Message-ID: Again, apologies if this has been covered. (Perhaps I should learn to use the archive?). I keep getting Safari closing unexpectedly when I go to bbc.co.uk/iplayer and navigate through the page. Any help welcomed, or a way of accessing BBC IPlayer content? Thank you all again for your patience. From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 20:58:37 2010 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:58:37 -0800 Subject: Important Status Change: Please Read! In-Reply-To: <88615DA8-6720-4FCF-AA38-08CFBBC41552@mac-access.net> References: <3B09AEF7-0047-41BA-885F-DCD83E9003AE@mac-access.net> <88615DA8-6720-4FCF-AA38-08CFBBC41552@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8D897FE8-ACE2-4125-B817-CC03C4D8C3DC@gmail.com> Ah. Ok just a thought. I have I think all of my lists goign through there as it makes searching for messages eaiser. I had some issues but that was my fault. lol! Happy holidays. On Dec 31, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > Ho, we haven't considered it, and we won't be doing so. We keep everything in-house. > > Lynne > > On 31 Dec 2010, at 18:13, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Thanks for the update. I don't use the archives but it will make things easier. Have you guys considered using the mail archive? I use it for everything i do. google the mail archive or check out http://themailarchive.org. I believe that's the web address. >> >> Take care and happy holidays. >> >> S >> On Dec 31, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> Firstly, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very peaceful and prosperous new year. For us personally, 2010 hasn't been a very good year at all. We're hoping for better in 2011. But in any case, may 2011 bring you lots of luck, joy and prosperity. We are very much looking forward to seeing where Mac Access goes this year. We are anticipating a busy year with lots of exciting news. >>> >>> In fact, the first little bits of news starts right now, hence the purpose of this posting. We will also have exciting news coming along in January and February; watch this space. So here goes with the first little bit. >>> >>> This is an important system announcement for those people who either occasionally or routinely use our list archive. Because VoiceOver doesn't handle large searchable groups at all well, we have decided to modify the behaviour of the list archives. Instead of archiving all messages into annual volumes, we have decided to increase the frequency of fresh archives being created from annually to monthly. This should make things easier for those of you who use VoiceOver and who do like to make use of our archives. >>> >>> Currently, the 2010 archive volume remains in an annual form. But we are investigating the possibility of reorganising it so that it appears monthly. >>> >>> However, as of 1 January 2011, this new behaviour will take effect. We hope that it will make things easier for people, and we do welcome feedback. >>> >>> Actually we took this decision based on feedback from one of our most dedicated archive users. So we hope you will be pleased. And rest assured that we are going to investigate the possibility of re-organising the 2010 archives as well. >>> >>> We do listen to suggestions if approached in the right way. If you have any, please feel free to contact us using the support address. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 21:00:59 2010 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:00:59 -0800 Subject: any hope In-Reply-To: <6E951B95-BC54-43CA-9685-A10DD9B8E8F1@mac-access.net> References: <2A332728-97DB-4C87-8805-563C30455F28@gmail.com> <2647BBB2-B60C-41C3-BC6E-8DFAC58B37FC@me.com> <99DB5448-F8CB-4671-85DF-5C166515AC15@mac-access.net> <6E951B95-BC54-43CA-9685-A10DD9B8E8F1@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Oh no there was someone who droped there iphone in the john. there an article on youtube. She soaked it in a sealed container of rice and it worked after about 4 or 5 days. There' a youtube vid I watched on it. S On Dec 31, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > On 31 Dec 2010, at 14:32, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> ? I'm curious, how would you remove the battery from an IPhone? From what I've seen, this is not possible as the back surface is completely flat and smooth. >> > I think you are correct. I could be wrong; but I think Bryan and Sarah are referring to other models of phone. > > Apparently there are sensors in the iPhone anyway which, if exposed to water, would malfunction. But I honestly don't see this working in the case of an iPhone. Even assuming you got the battery out, how do you fix the sensors? I'm not electrically clued up but I would think that water would result in a million short circuits anyway which would render the iPhone useless. > > I'm sure an Apple technician could disassemble the iPhone but I don't know so much about a user with no specialist equipment. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 21:01:53 2010 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:01:53 +0000 Subject: BBC IPlayer with the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Dennis On 31 Dec 2010, at 20:24, Dennis Freedman wrote: > ? Again, apologies if this has been covered. (Perhaps I should learn to use the archive?). It has actually, but not to worry. > ? I keep getting Safari closing unexpectedly when I go to bbc.co.uk/iplayer and navigate through the page. Any help welcomed, or a way of accessing BBC IPlayer content? > Thank you all again for your patience. > I think you need ClickToFlash. I just tried and got the same problem as you are getting. But here is a suggestion. When you open the page, just before clicking on the link, try turning VoiceOver off. Give the page time to load, then turn it back on. I haven't tried it, not on this specific page anyway. But I've seen it work elsewhere. Lynne From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 21:04:02 2010 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:04:02 -0500 Subject: The Slingbox was Re: Bongiovi Acoustics - iTunes DPSPlugin In-Reply-To: <1D939251-A640-4FD1-8933-BC5EDEEDE88E@mac-access.net> References: <3A6D661E-EE31-45E9-BC2C-266F05487E0A@gmail.com> <889C5591-A911-4980-8735-37703B93A8D8@netspace.net.au> <5A39154F-8CAE-412A-A4D4-BBADC11F7FC0@mac-access.net> <92B0B0DD-9646-4F1B-B92B-387C73D1C266@netspace.net.au> <0BDF6729-4BB8-44B1-B4B9-55C76F14FA0F@netspace.net.au> <29609243-FDF6-4AD7-94E4-9B52E71042E2@gmail.com> <1D939251-A640-4FD1-8933-BC5EDEEDE88E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0999BE69-B788-4C9C-86A2-A7B1C4A06777@gmail.com> Hi, What exactly is the in-built tuner, and without it, can I still control my TV through my mac? Courtney On Dec 31, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Courtney > > On 31 Dec 2010, at 16:28, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> ? I'm thinking about getting a slingbox here in the U.S. but I'm just curious, does my TV have to be on if I'm watching the TV from a different location? > > No. As long as you either have the inbuilt tuner selected or a video source that is turned on and connected correctly it does not require your TV. > >> ? Also, how accessible is the software, and which model do I need, I don't particularly need the slingbox pro, do I? > > It depends on what you want. If you don't want the inbuilt tuner and only have one source, no, you can use the Solo. But I strongly advise the Pro because the Solo is going out of production and won't be supported for too much longer. > > As for the software, it is totally accessible. The Mac desktop client is no longer supported, but it can still be used. Nowadays they use a web browser plugin which works perfectly with VoiceOver. > > If you want more info contact either myself or Gordon off list. We have 2 of these boxes so I think we are qualified to help you. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 21:10:23 2010 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:10:23 +0000 Subject: The Slingbox was Re: Bongiovi Acoustics - iTunes DPSPlugin In-Reply-To: <0999BE69-B788-4C9C-86A2-A7B1C4A06777@gmail.com> References: <3A6D661E-EE31-45E9-BC2C-266F05487E0A@gmail.com> <889C5591-A911-4980-8735-37703B93A8D8@netspace.net.au> <5A39154F-8CAE-412A-A4D4-BBADC11F7FC0@mac-access.net> <92B0B0DD-9646-4F1B-B92B-387C73D1C266@netspace.net.au> <0BDF6729-4BB8-44B1-B4B9-55C76F14FA0F@netspace.net.au> <29609243-FDF6-4AD7-94E4-9B52E71042E2@gmail.com> <1D939251-A640-4FD1-8933-BC5EDEEDE88E@mac-access.net> <0999BE69-B788-4C9C-86A2-A7B1C4A06777@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1DE34496-BCC1-4688-95E6-1F2C9FA8C387@mac-access.net> Hello Courtney On 31 Dec 2010, at 21:04, Courtney Curran wrote: > ? What exactly is the in-built tuner, and without it, can I still control my TV through my mac? I don't understand what you're asking me. The inbuilt tuner is simply a TV receiver built into the Slingbox. You change channels etc via your Mac's keyboard. Which part of this is unclear? Sorry if I don't understand your questions properly. How about taking this off list as it isn't strictly speaking a mac issue. Contact me on Lynne From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Fri Dec 31 21:23:25 2010 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:23:25 +0000 Subject: BBC IPlayer with the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D35FFD8-6C3D-42B3-B455-8A05366D9EF7@thejazzden.org.uk> Hello Lynne Well I tried it and left it for about 30 seconds to load but the same thing happened. Will try again, but if not have loads more stuff to play with and learn until someone comes up with a solution. Then there's always Vinux (oops, sorry). :) On 31 Dec 2010, at 21:01, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dennis > > On 31 Dec 2010, at 20:24, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> ? Again, apologies if this has been covered. (Perhaps I should learn to use the archive?). > > It has actually, but not to worry. > >> ? I keep getting Safari closing unexpectedly when I go to bbc.co.uk/iplayer and navigate through the page. Any help welcomed, or a way of accessing BBC IPlayer content? >> Thank you all again for your patience. >> > > I think you need ClickToFlash. I just tried and got the same problem as you are getting. But here is a suggestion. > > When you open the page, just before clicking on the link, try turning VoiceOver off. Give the page time to load, then turn it back on. > > I haven't tried it, not on this specific page anyway. But I've seen it work elsewhere. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 21:28:25 2010 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria from Australia) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 08:28:25 +1100 Subject: do not buy this app: Fwd: iPhone App Maker Justifies Charging Blind Customers Extra for VoiceOver Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <52509C19-930E-4E04-8A50-7DC4D9545518@handsontechnologeyes.com> Message-ID: <4D1E4AF9.9090705@gmail.com> the developer is on one of the iPhone lists and he has actually been very good about engaging in dialog with the list. Maria and Karly from Australia Friendship flourishes at the fountain of forgiveness. William A. Ward twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book & email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com please check out www.powerradio104.com PROUD MEMBER and support volunteer for TAFN www.tafn.org.uk my groups BlindSightedChat-subscribe at yahoogroups.com http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindsightedchat shelter-from-the-storm-subscribe at yahoogroups.com On 30/12/2010 8:49 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > To be perfectly honest I don't see what the fuss is about. For one thing, it seems that the article contains gross inaccuracies, and this guy did not say all of the thing attributed to him. > > For another, it seems like this is a case of biting off the hand that feeds you. Developers have to eat you know! OK, so it cost them more to develop a different interface. They have a perfect right to cover their costs. Why should people be expected to work for nothing? > > This is one of those times when I find the attitude of some people puzzling. I'm all for accessibility, don't get me wrong. But I fail to see why you expect people to give you their work for free. > > Did you refuse to pay for JfW, Window-Eyes, Hal? No, you didn't. When it comes down to it you have a choice; buy the programme and enjoy using it, or don't. Why kick up a stink over something when all you are doing is risking getting people's backs up which might discourage other developers from helping you in the future. > > Just muy views for whatever they're worth. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Fri Dec 31 21:29:53 2010 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:29:53 +0000 Subject: Happy new year Mac users Message-ID: Just wishing all on the list a very happy new year and hope that Mac gives you something nice in the future! All the best! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Dec 31 21:30:11 2010 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:30:11 +0000 Subject: BBC IPlayer with the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <300EDC43-BBB0-48D2-AE51-FEA00933B5F7@hopewell.org.uk> HI Dennis, To stop Safari in DOM mode crashing when accessing pages at www.bbc.co.uk turn off cursor tracking (Shift+VO+F3 ) before opening the page, or use the VO utility web settings to change Safari to Group mode. However when you have done that it may not help you to actually listen to missed radio or TV programs. For radio I found that going to the page for that radio show (e.g. the Archers) rather than via the iPlayer enables you to listen to the radio show. For TV the only solution I found which works was to download the free program iPlayer Downloader 4.0 (check it pout on Google). this let me download TV programs and then view them via VLC or Real player. I normally use my iPhone to listen to missed radio or missed TV. Use Safari to find the desired program on the BBC iPlayer and double tap and hold the "Click here to play" button to temporarily turn off VO and then do a single tap to activate that button. This works for both radio and TV. Good luck.... Paul Hopewell On 31 Dec 2010, at 20:24, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Again, apologies if this has been covered. (Perhaps I should learn to use the archive?). > I keep getting Safari closing unexpectedly when I go to bbc.co.uk/iplayer and navigate through the page. Any help welcomed, or a way of accessing BBC IPlayer content? > Thank you all again for your patience. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Fri Dec 31 21:41:17 2010 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:41:17 +0000 Subject: BBC IPlayer with the Mac In-Reply-To: <300EDC43-BBB0-48D2-AE51-FEA00933B5F7@hopewell.org.uk> References: <300EDC43-BBB0-48D2-AE51-FEA00933B5F7@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Paul Thank you for your prompt and complete reply. Yes, I remember seeing parts of this thread - but of course as my Mac wasn't working it's hard to remember things you're not actually using. Yes, some things do seem to work better by default in the IOS as opposed to OSX; I will take up your suggestions. Thanks. On 31 Dec 2010, at 21:30, Paul Hopewell wrote: > HI Dennis, > To stop Safari in DOM mode crashing when accessing pages at www.bbc.co.uk turn off cursor tracking (Shift+VO+F3 ) before opening the page, or use the VO utility web settings to change Safari to Group mode. > > However when you have done that it may not help you to actually listen to missed radio or TV programs. For radio I found that going to the page for that radio show (e.g. the Archers) rather than via the iPlayer enables you to listen to the radio show. For TV the only solution I found which works was to download the free program iPlayer Downloader 4.0 (check it pout on Google). this let me download TV programs and then view them via VLC or Real player. > > I normally use my iPhone to listen to missed radio or missed TV. Use Safari to find the desired program on the BBC iPlayer and double tap and hold the "Click here to play" button to temporarily turn off VO and then do a single tap to activate that button. This works for both radio and TV. > > Good luck.... > > Paul Hopewell > On 31 Dec 2010, at 20:24, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> Again, apologies if this has been covered. (Perhaps I should learn to use the archive?). >> I keep getting Safari closing unexpectedly when I go to bbc.co.uk/iplayer and navigate through the page. Any help welcomed, or a way of accessing BBC IPlayer content? >> Thank you all again for your patience. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 21:54:48 2010 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:54:48 +0000 Subject: BBC IPlayer with the Mac In-Reply-To: <1D35FFD8-6C3D-42B3-B455-8A05366D9EF7@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <1D35FFD8-6C3D-42B3-B455-8A05366D9EF7@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <7563D1CC-5E3F-4F70-BCF8-530478F2B62D@mac-access.net> Hello Denis On 31 Dec 2010, at 21:23, Dennis Freedman wrote: > ? Well I tried it and left it for about 30 seconds to load but the same thing happened. Will try again, but if not have loads more stuff to play with and learn until someone comes up with a solution. Then there's always Vinux (oops, sorry). :) > OK; log that as an unmitigated disaster then. As for your talking about other operating systems, you're fired! I shall henceforth ban you from this list; squash, splatter; you're gone! :) Seriously, I don't think you're the only person to encounter that problem. Try ClickToFlash, see if it helps. If it doesn't, I'm fresh out of ideas; these are just based on tips people have given on list in the passed. Lynne From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Fri Dec 31 22:12:47 2010 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 22:12:47 +0000 Subject: BBC IPlayer with the Mac In-Reply-To: <7563D1CC-5E3F-4F70-BCF8-530478F2B62D@mac-access.net> References: <1D35FFD8-6C3D-42B3-B455-8A05366D9EF7@thejazzden.org.uk> <7563D1CC-5E3F-4F70-BCF8-530478F2B62D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <03CF4730-760D-49EF-8151-E3D3294CD83A@thejazzden.org.uk> Hello again Lynne You will have seen Paul's suggestions which I am trying. But what's 'click to flash' - is it a command in Safari or a piece of software - I've been away for too long I can see. On 31 Dec 2010, at 21:54, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Denis > > On 31 Dec 2010, at 21:23, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> ? Well I tried it and left it for about 30 seconds to load but the same thing happened. Will try again, but if not have loads more stuff to play with and learn until someone comes up with a solution. Then there's always Vinux (oops, sorry). :) >> > OK; log that as an unmitigated disaster then. > > As for your talking about other operating systems, you're fired! I shall henceforth ban you from this list; squash, splatter; you're gone! :) > > Seriously, I don't think you're the only person to encounter that problem. Try ClickToFlash, see if it helps. > > If it doesn't, I'm fresh out of ideas; these are just based on tips people have given on list in the passed. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From renee at zeli.net Fri Dec 31 22:22:36 2010 From: renee at zeli.net (Renee M. Zelickson) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:22:36 -0600 Subject: iPad and Numbers and key chain issue Message-ID: I am writing this from the apple store, and have just put Numbers on my ipad. Is anyone able to use this program on the ipad with any ease? I have a hard time with it on the Mac - the way the cursor changes shape having a hard time getting into the boxes. I don't know the voiceover commands for numbers and I can't find them. Also, Is there an accessible program similar to the Kay Chain on the Mac for the iPad? I sent a message to the list before on this subject, and did not receive a reply; I'm hoping one of the new members might know something about it. Renee M. Zelickson renee at zeli.net www.zeli.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 22:40:27 2010 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 14:40:27 -0800 Subject: iPad and Numbers and key chain issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9FA149A0-6E38-40BE-BEFA-ED2CAD937E87@gmail.com> If you need a dictation program look up dragon dictate. Take care. S On Dec 31, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Renee M. Zelickson wrote: > I am writing this from the apple store, and have just put Numbers on my ipad. Is anyone able to use this program on the ipad with any ease? I have a hard time with it on the Mac - the way the cursor changes shape having a hard time getting into the boxes. > I don't know the voiceover commands for numbers and I can't find them. > > Also, Is there an accessible program similar to the Kay Chain on the Mac for the iPad? I sent a message to the list before on this subject, and did not receive a reply; I'm hoping one of the new members might know something about it. > > > Renee M. Zelickson > renee at zeli.net > www.zeli.net > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 22:46:58 2010 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 22:46:58 +0000 Subject: BBC IPlayer with the Mac In-Reply-To: <03CF4730-760D-49EF-8151-E3D3294CD83A@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <1D35FFD8-6C3D-42B3-B455-8A05366D9EF7@thejazzden.org.uk> <7563D1CC-5E3F-4F70-BCF8-530478F2B62D@mac-access.net> <03CF4730-760D-49EF-8151-E3D3294CD83A@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Dennis Sorry; I forgot that not everybody is super-duper-sonic like me, LOLOLOL. No seriously; ClickToFlash is a plugin for Safari that allows you to control which flash sites you use and which you do't. Sometimes turning off flash can make a site like iPlayer work. You can read more, and find the free programme here: Gordon used it for a while and no doubt will again when he's fully back on his proverbial feet. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 22:49:55 2010 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 22:49:55 +0000 Subject: iPad and Numbers and key chain issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Renee I can't help you with your query; but I urge you to remember it is new year's eve. Many people will no doubt be otherwise engaged. Personally I have not seen Numbers for iPad. But I can tell you that people are using it on VoiceOver on the Mac. Please check the list archive Renee and you will find discussion on this subject across several threads. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 22:52:41 2010 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 14:52:41 -0800 Subject: Leaked iPad 2 Case Images Pulled Message-ID: <850AA51F-56A2-4084-A720-09C086C3F940@gmail.com> the question is who really owns these images if they are already seen by bloggers? some of the cases are even in the bloggers's hands for review. Read more: http://goo.gl/onZnJ From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 23:08:34 2010 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:08:34 +0000 Subject: Happy new year Mac users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6588164A-DC46-48C8-8842-2106AC6207AC@mac-access.net> Happy New Year to all. Best wishes James & Lyn On 31 Dec 2010, at 21:29, Colin M wrote: > Just wishing all on the list a very happy new year and hope that Mac gives you something nice in the future! > All the best! > Colin > I'm far too bad for Heaven! > The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 23:09:15 2010 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:09:15 +0000 Subject: do not buy this app: Fwd: iPhone App Maker Justifies Charging Blind Customers Extra for VoiceOver Accessibility In-Reply-To: <4D1E4AF9.9090705@gmail.com> References: <52509C19-930E-4E04-8A50-7DC4D9545518@handsontechnologeyes.com> <4D1E4AF9.9090705@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7F64E986-6765-4DEE-9A3B-B8016261492E@mac-access.net> Yes, indeed Maria I've spoken with Mr. Georgiou directly and his is very approachable. On 31 Dec 2010, at 21:28, Maria from Australia wrote: > the developer is on one of the iPhone lists and he has actually been very good about engaging in dialog with the list. > > Maria and Karly from Australia > > Friendship flourishes at the fountain of forgiveness. William A. Ward > twitter bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > msn, face book & email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > please check out > www.powerradio104.com > PROUD MEMBER and support volunteer for TAFN > www.tafn.org.uk > my groups > BlindSightedChat-subscribe at yahoogroups.com > http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindsightedchat > shelter-from-the-storm-subscribe at yahoogroups.com > > On 30/12/2010 8:49 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> To be perfectly honest I don't see what the fuss is about. For one thing, it seems that the article contains gross inaccuracies, and this guy did not say all of the thing attributed to him. >> >> For another, it seems like this is a case of biting off the hand that feeds you. Developers have to eat you know! OK, so it cost them more to develop a different interface. They have a perfect right to cover their costs. Why should people be expected to work for nothing? >> >> This is one of those times when I find the attitude of some people puzzling. I'm all for accessibility, don't get me wrong. But I fail to see why you expect people to give you their work for free. >> >> Did you refuse to pay for JfW, Window-Eyes, Hal? No, you didn't. When it comes down to it you have a choice; buy the programme and enjoy using it, or don't. Why kick up a stink over something when all you are doing is risking getting people's backs up which might discourage other developers from helping you in the future. >> >> Just muy views for whatever they're worth. >> >> Lynne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From helianthe at mac-access.net Fri Dec 31 23:26:51 2010 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 00:26:51 +0100 Subject: Happy new year Mac users In-Reply-To: <6588164A-DC46-48C8-8842-2106AC6207AC@mac-access.net> References: <6588164A-DC46-48C8-8842-2106AC6207AC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3B97AABC-AF4A-4BA9-AA57-048CA54DB3B8@mac-access.net> A very happy new year for 2011...happy mac and apple new year...smile. On Jan 1, 2011, at 12:08 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Happy New Year to all. > > Best wishes > James & Lyn > On 31 Dec 2010, at 21:29, Colin M wrote: > >> Just wishing all on the list a very happy new year and hope that Mac gives you something nice in the future! >> All the best! >> Colin >> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ********** Email: helianthe at mac-access.net Email & MSn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com Skype: keanemaniac klango: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 (Please say who you are and where you got my info if asking to share details, thank you) From billd at insightbb.com Fri Dec 31 23:48:37 2010 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:48:37 -0500 Subject: happy new year to all Message-ID: <475E2D71-0D4D-42C5-9E76-00F410415AA5@insightbb.com> Hello and a very happy and prosperous new year to all mac users and your friends and family members. by the way, I thought I would share the following information with everyone I was on NFB Newline and saw they had Mac World in there magazine section. I think that is proof that our numbers are growing. again,happy new year to all. Bill Deatherage