From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 04:33:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:33:27 -0800 Subject: giving someone access to a file on another drive using ftp Message-ID: <3EF3225C-EACD-489C-9C66-9826A393F62E@gmail.com> So I've created an account for someone using the ftp server which is hidden in mac osx lion. tha'ts fine, but the file I want them to have is on another drive and i don't want to copy it to there account folder. Is there a solution here to this quandry? Thanks. From GlennErvin at cableone.net Thu Dec 1 04:40:00 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (G.E.) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:40:00 -0600 Subject: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps References: <752775.59682.qm@smtp827.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Digit Eyes is probably the best one for us, it is 20 or 30 dollars, I got it for 20, but it may have been a special early this year. It does not give you the price though, and it is not so great on an iPod Touch. I had it on my iPod Touch, but it only had a 1.7MP camera. Maybe an iPod with a 5MP camera would do better. I'm looking forward to getting a new iPhone sometime soon, with the 8MP camera, and it should work even better than my iPhone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lewis Alexander" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps I'm not sure if there are. however if there are I'd love to know too as that's been a pain in the neck for me for years. It'd be nice to go shopping, scan a code, get a price on a product without finding a member of staff who quite frankly doesn't care one bit about serving their customers. I mean... after all.... we pay their bloomin wages don't we? oops. Smiles with embarrassment. lew free macs for the blind. On 30 Nov 2011, at 17:26, Luis Guerra wrote: > Hello all, > > Are there any accessible bar code apps that work well on the Ipod Tuch? I > want to use this ap to scan and identify frozen meals and canned goods. > > Thanks. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lyewchan at telus.net Thu Dec 1 06:30:54 2011 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:30:54 -0800 Subject: finding text Message-ID: <84772373-081A-4733-B204-37C2DA2CAFA4@telus.net> some one tell me how to find text I want on a web page or in a list of emails for example if I wanted to find an email from a friend or a specific thing on a web page but I don't want to replace it with anything? Thanks. Lovette na someone From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 07:02:30 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:02:30 -0800 Subject: finding text In-Reply-To: <84772373-081A-4733-B204-37C2DA2CAFA4@telus.net> References: <84772373-081A-4733-B204-37C2DA2CAFA4@telus.net> Message-ID: sometimes the item chooser works. Hit vo I. sometime sthe vo find works and hit fVO f and type what you want then hig vo G and vo shift G to move through your choices. On Nov 30, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > some one tell me how to find text I want on a web page or in a list of emails for example if I wanted to find an email from a friend or a specific thing on a web page but I don't want to replace it with anything? Thanks. > Lovette > na someone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Thu Dec 1 09:41:30 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 04:41:30 -0500 Subject: iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s Questions Message-ID: <0LVI002HFQXI8190@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Folks! Have a few questions on the iPhone 4 series. Can the iPhone 4 (AT&T branded) be unlocked? The folks there tell me no; Apple has the codes. Apple not clear on that when I tried to talk with them. For those of you who have the iPhone 4s, have you had any problems with VO and using Siri? I'd like to hear from you, as I'm thinking of buying an unlocked iPhone 4s from Apple directly. Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Thu Dec 1 09:44:59 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 20:44:59 +1100 Subject: programming on the mac In-Reply-To: <4ed4ea9a.8872cd0a.7557.6c3a@mx.google.com> References: <4ed4ea9a.8872cd0a.7557.6c3a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <25052DFE-D3A2-448F-88FB-EABD8B3CCA46@bigpond.net.au> Hi, Perl, ruby, Apple script are all good languages to learn basic programming from. Apple Script is quite unusual compared to any other language I have played with. I would suggest Ruby or Perl. The biggest issue with programming. You have to find a project that is easy enough to do, but not so difficult that it is impossible at your level of skill. If you are learning, then pick something that is simple. Programming can also include database management, web programming, system calls and more. Sean On 30/11/2011, at 1:32 AM, michael weaver wrote: > is it possible to do programming on a mac and if so where could i start? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 09:45:25 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:45:25 +0100 Subject: iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s Questions In-Reply-To: <0LVI002HFQXI8190@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0LVI002HFQXI8190@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Hi! I find that Siri tends to break a lot. Granted, it is beta, but I find that if I have to perform various different tasks very rapidly Siri breaks. Either Siri won't listen, or it just keeps searching without stopping to find answers for me. Other times though, I have no issues, but it's pretty reproducible. I don't have a lot of things I can use Siri for, though, at least not very helpful ones. I can't answer your AT>&T question, though I'd imagine it'd be the same here too. There should not be issues unlocking either phone, though of course, AT&T may have a different policy. Regards, Nicolai On Dec 1, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks! Have a few questions on the iPhone 4 series. > > Can the iPhone 4 (AT&T branded) be unlocked? The folks there tell me no; Apple has the codes. Apple not clear on that when I tried to talk with them. > > For those of you who have the iPhone 4s, have you had any problems with VO and using Siri? I'd like to hear from you, as I'm thinking of buying an unlocked iPhone 4s from Apple directly. Thanks in advance. > > Matthew Chao > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sandratomkins at googlemail.com Thu Dec 1 10:55:10 2011 From: sandratomkins at googlemail.com (Sandy Tomkins) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:55:10 +0000 Subject: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps In-Reply-To: References: <752775.59682.qm@smtp827.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3E842B04-C722-40AF-B94D-C0D30FEEF9B9@googlemail.com> try red laser Sent from my iPhone On 30 Nov 2011, at 18:45, "Bubba" wrote: > Well, there is accessible barcode apps but I have not found one I really > like the way it works! The best one out there is called I think Digit Eyes > or something like that . But I just use VizWiz or OMoby to do my ID or I > use my ID mate. See link to VizWiz and OMoby below and Digit Eyes . > > > > http://omoby.com/pages/index.php > > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vizwiz/id439686043?mt=8 > > http://www.digit-eyes.com/ > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:28 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps > > I'm not sure if there are. however if there are I'd love to know too as > that's been a pain in the neck for me for years. It'd be nice to go > shopping, scan a code, get a price on a product without finding a member of > staff who quite frankly doesn't care one bit about serving their customers. > I mean... after all.... we pay their bloomin wages don't we? > > oops. Smiles with embarrassment. > > lew > > free macs for the blind. > > On 30 Nov 2011, at 17:26, Luis Guerra wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> Are there any accessible bar code apps that work well on the Ipod Tuch? I >> want to use this ap to scan and identify frozen meals and canned goods. >> >> Thanks. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR > FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to > help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mumwith2kids at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 10:57:15 2011 From: mumwith2kids at gmail.com (Stephanie Mitchell) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:57:15 +1100 Subject: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps Message-ID: <4ed75d9b.218fec0a.1f23.ffffbd96@mx.google.com> Will this work on Australian products? Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Tomkins wrote: Well, there is accessible barcode apps but I have not found one I really like the way it works! The best one out there is called I think Digit Eyes or something like that . But I just use VizWiz or OMoby to do my ID or I use my ID mate. See link to VizWiz and OMoby below and Digit Eyes . http://omoby.com/pages/index.php http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vizwiz/id439686043?mt=8 http://www.digit-eyes.com/ Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:28 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps I'm not sure if there are. however if there are I'd love to know too as that's been a pain in the neck for me for years. It'd be nice to go shopping, scan a code, get a price on a product without finding a member of staff who quite frankly doesn't care one bit about serving their customers. I mean... after all.... we pay their bloomin wages don't we? oops. Smiles with embarrassment. lew free macs for the blind. On 30 Nov 2011, at 17:26, Luis Guerra wrote: Hello all, Are there any accessible bar code apps that work well on the Ipod Tuch? I want to use this ap to scan and identify frozen meals and canned goods. Thanks. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: References: <4ed75d9b.218fec0a.1f23.ffffbd96@mx.google.com> Message-ID: do not know vut it is free Sent from my iPhone On 1 Dec 2011, at 10:57, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > Will this work on Australian products? > Steph > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sandy Tomkins To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Date sent: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:55:10 +0000 > Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps > > try red laser > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 30 Nov 2011, at 18:45, "Bubba" wrote: > > Well, there is accessible barcode apps but I have not found one I really > like the way it works! The best one out there is called I think Digit Eyes > or something like that . But I just use VizWiz or OMoby to do my ID or I > use my ID mate. See link to VizWiz and OMoby below and Digit Eyes . > > > > http://omoby.com/pages/index.php > > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vizwiz/id439686043?mt=8 > > http://www.digit-eyes.com/ > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:28 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps > > I'm not sure if there are. however if there are I'd love to know too as > that's been a pain in the neck for me for years. It'd be nice to go > shopping, scan a code, get a price on a product without finding a member of > staff who quite frankly doesn't care one bit about serving their customers. > I mean... after all.... we pay their bloomin wages don't we? > > oops. Smiles with embarrassment. > > lew > > free macs for the blind. > > On 30 Nov 2011, at 17:26, Luis Guerra wrote: > > Hello all, > > Are there any accessible bar code apps that work well on the Ipod Tuch? I > want to use this ap to scan and identify frozen meals and canned goods. > > Thanks. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > ml > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR > FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to > help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > ml > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > ml > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > ml > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 13:58:15 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:58:15 -0500 Subject: iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s Questions In-Reply-To: <0LVI002HFQXI8190@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0LVI002HFQXI8190@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: It can but it would be easier just to get factory unlock one from apple . JMT Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Chao Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:42 AM To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s Questions Hi, Folks! Have a few questions on the iPhone 4 series. Can the iPhone 4 (AT&T branded) be unlocked? The folks there tell me no; Apple has the codes. Apple not clear on that when I tried to talk with them. For those of you who have the iPhone 4s, have you had any problems with VO and using Siri? I'd like to hear from you, as I'm thinking of buying an unlocked iPhone 4s from Apple directly. Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 15:13:37 2011 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 15:13:37 -0000 Subject: speech synthesis dialog on start up Message-ID: Hi all, Whenever I boot up my mac book, a dialog box opens which is called something like speech synthesis server and I have no idea why or what it is for. I am unable to interact with the item and once I've switched to desktop or doc, the item disappears and I am unable to retrieve it. Have tried checking in system preferences but have been unable to find accounts where I understand items that start on boot up should be contained. I've looked in system/ library/ speech and can make nothing of what is there. I have read that there is some button which can be pressed to stop this appearing but cannot recall where it is or what it is called after searching for the appropriate application to do this with. Any ideas gratefully received. Running with Lion 10.7.2 Regards Roger From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Dec 1 15:24:57 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:24:57 -0500 Subject: giving someone access to a file on another drive using ftp In-Reply-To: <3EF3225C-EACD-489C-9C66-9826A393F62E@gmail.com> References: <3EF3225C-EACD-489C-9C66-9826A393F62E@gmail.com> Message-ID: You can try a sim-link to the file, but I'm not sure if that will work or not, since the ftp folder usually doesn't follow sim-links. However, if you want to try it, you'll need a terminal prompt, then change to the folder where the user's home folder is located, and type something like: ln -s filename /Volumes/machd/users/shared/file This will create a new file in their home folder named filename, and will sim-link it to the file located in the /users/shared folder that is called file. The permissions on te file should be set so that the user has read access to the file (since all users are in the same group, the default is to give read access automatically), and assuming the ftp file system allows sim-links, they will be able to download the file. There is no method of handling this task via the finder, so terminal is it, unless you create an apple script to do the job for you (which btw wouldn't be difficult), if you need help with it, drop a line, and I'll see what I can do for you. hth. On Nov 30, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > So I've created an account for someone using the ftp server which > is hidden in mac osx lion. tha'ts fine, but the file I want them to > have is on another drive and i don't want to copy it to there > account folder. Is there a solution here to this quandry? > > Thanks. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- > access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Dec 1 15:31:33 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 15:31:33 +0000 Subject: Maqc equivalent of the WIndows System Tray? In-Reply-To: <644C8AF1-223A-40C4-B81D-948DD31EDDE1@charter.net> References: <68FBDCF4-2659-4224-9770-8FC48708AEE4@hopewell.org.uk> <644C8AF1-223A-40C4-B81D-948DD31EDDE1@charter.net> Message-ID: <47C8D11A-163B-4CB7-855D-A30A0F57ACAD@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Mike, The items in the status menu behave just as I want them to. However can I add my own arbitrary apps to the status menu? Paul Hopewell On 28 Nov 2011, at 00:10, Mike Arrigo wrote: > The closest thing is the status menus, this is what shows your volume, battery, etc. You get to it by pressing control F8 or in voiceover, press control option m twice. > On Nov 27, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> Is there a Mac OS 10.7 facility similar to the Windows System Tray? On Windows you can move applications to the System Tray (aka Notification Area). If such a facility were available on Mac OS it would mean that the selected applications would not appear if you cycle round your windows using Command+Tab. Instead you would have to access that application from somewhere else like the dock. >> >> A good use of this would be to put growl in the Mac System Tray so that growl does not appear when you command+Tab around your windows. It would also be useful to hide WQuickeys in this way. >> Is there such a facility? >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Thu Dec 1 15:33:00 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 15:33:00 +0000 Subject: speech synthesis dialog on start up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <60B3FB30-1F5B-4E03-8F3B-6A9FAB037364@mac-access.net> speech synthesis server is a hidden item loading at startup. it will announce it self on login to desktop but it isn't something you need to interact with. it's just how OS X behaves. lew On 1 Dec 2011, at 15:13, Roger Woolgrove wrote: > Hi all, > > Whenever I boot up my mac book, a dialog box opens which is called something like speech synthesis server and I have no idea why or what it is for. > I am unable to interact with the item and once I've switched to desktop or doc, the item disappears and I am unable to retrieve it. > Have tried checking in system preferences but have been unable to find accounts where I understand items that start on boot up should be contained. > I've looked in system/ library/ speech and can make nothing of what is there. > I have read that there is some button which can be pressed to stop this appearing but cannot recall where it is or what it is called after searching for the appropriate application to do this with. > Any ideas gratefully received. > Running with Lion 10.7.2 > > Regards > > Roger > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From helianthe at mac-access.net Thu Dec 1 17:19:50 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & her faithful furry friends) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:19:50 +0100 Subject: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps In-Reply-To: References: <4ed75d9b.218fec0a.1f23.ffffbd96@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Glen, Can you please tell me more about digitize, how does this work, what kind of info do you get from scanning the barcode other than the name of the product? I would be interested in it but I'd love to have some feedback from users before investing money in the app. I have an Iphone 4 and an Ipod touch 4th generation, how well would it work on those devices? Thanks a lot for any help in this matter, really appreciate it. Lyn, Canelle & Epi On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Sandy Tomkins wrote: > do not know vut it is free > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 1 Dec 2011, at 10:57, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > >> Will this work on Australian products? >> Steph >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sandy Tomkins > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Date sent: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:55:10 +0000 >> Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps >> >> try red laser >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 30 Nov 2011, at 18:45, "Bubba" wrote: >> >> Well, there is accessible barcode apps but I have not found one I really >> like the way it works! The best one out there is called I think Digit Eyes >> or something like that . But I just use VizWiz or OMoby to do my ID or I >> use my ID mate. See link to VizWiz and OMoby below and Digit Eyes . >> >> >> >> http://omoby.com/pages/index.php >> >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vizwiz/id439686043?mt=8 >> >> http://www.digit-eyes.com/ >> >> >> Sign, >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:28 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps >> >> I'm not sure if there are. however if there are I'd love to know too as >> that's been a pain in the neck for me for years. It'd be nice to go >> shopping, scan a code, get a price on a product without finding a member of >> staff who quite frankly doesn't care one bit about serving their customers. >> I mean... after all.... we pay their bloomin wages don't we? >> >> oops. Smiles with embarrassment. >> >> lew >> >> free macs for the blind. >> >> On 30 Nov 2011, at 17:26, Luis Guerra wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Are there any accessible bar code apps that work well on the Ipod Tuch? I >> want to use this ap to scan and identify frozen meals and canned goods. >> >> Thanks. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working >> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR >> FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a >> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to >> help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From lyewchan at telus.net Thu Dec 1 17:33:50 2011 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 09:33:50 -0800 Subject: finding text In-Reply-To: References: <84772373-081A-4733-B204-37C2DA2CAFA4@telus.net> Message-ID: <61656243-7914-4251-BD34-B7751CBFDFF6@telus.net> thanks. On 2011-11-30, at 11:02 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > sometimes the item chooser works. Hit vo I. sometime sthe vo find works and hit fVO f and type what you want then hig vo G and vo shift G to move through your choices. > On Nov 30, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > >> some one tell me how to find text I want on a web page or in a list of emails for example if I wanted to find an email from a friend or a specific thing on a web page but I don't want to replace it with anything? Thanks. >> Lovette >> na someone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From desiandcandy at q.com Thu Dec 1 17:39:13 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:39:13 -0700 Subject: Cases For iPod Touch? Message-ID: <20111201173913.desiandcandy@q.com> Hi Everyone, Is it true that you can get a case for the iPod Touch that will actually charge the iPod Touch? If so, what cases would you recommend, and how do they work? Thanks so much in advance for any light you can shed on this? Desi From mfurness at bell.net Thu Dec 1 17:39:15 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:39:15 -0500 Subject: moving mail boxes Lion Message-ID: I tried cut and paste, but this does not work. I need to put several mail boxes under another mail box. How does one do this? Thank you for all your help! Mark I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 18:54:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:54:06 -0800 Subject: moving mail boxes Lion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <065E20AF-EF7D-4CEB-8E60-4185BC302686@gmail.com> You have torecreate the mail boes and then move the messages to that particular mail bux. There is no way I know of to do this. Take care. On Dec 1, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Mark Furness wrote: > I tried cut and paste, but this does not work. > I need to put several mail boxes under another mail box. > How does one do this? > > Thank you for all your help! > > Mark > I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 18:56:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:56:08 -0800 Subject: giving someone access to a file on another drive using ftp In-Reply-To: References: <3EF3225C-EACD-489C-9C66-9826A393F62E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have an action that will do that, or at least I had an action that would do that. Yee for automator if the fix the compatability issues with lion. I hear that it won't work but I'll give it a try. There wa ssomeone that did this but I really dunno how they did it. On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:24 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > You can try a sim-link to the file, but I'm not sure if that will work or not, since the ftp folder usually doesn't follow sim-links. However, if you want to try it, you'll need a terminal prompt, then change to the folder where the user's home folder is located, and type something like: > ln -s filename /Volumes/machd/users/shared/file > This will create a new file in their home folder named filename, and will sim-link it to the file located in the /users/shared folder that is called file. > The permissions on te file should be set so that the user has read access to the file (since all users are in the same group, the default is to give read access automatically), and assuming the ftp file system allows sim-links, they will be able to download the file. > There is no method of handling this task via the finder, so terminal is it, unless you create an apple script to do the job for you (which btw wouldn't be difficult), if you need help with it, drop a line, and I'll see what I can do for you. > hth. > On Nov 30, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> So I've created an account for someone using the ftp server which is hidden in mac osx lion. tha'ts fine, but the file I want them to have is on another drive and i don't want to copy it to there account folder. Is there a solution here to this quandry? >> >> Thanks. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From helianthe at mac-access.net Thu Dec 1 19:48:06 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & her faithful furry friends) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 20:48:06 +0100 Subject: Cases For iPod Touch? In-Reply-To: <20111201173913.desiandcandy@q.com> References: <20111201173913.desiandcandy@q.com> Message-ID: <7CE85E4C-20C5-4B5F-9A51-C8717FC7DC5A@mac-access.net> Yes for sure, it's the mofy juice pack, I've got it and it works great. It doubles the battery life of the iPod. The device has a slide button to turn the device on and off. When you turn it on, you get the charging sound and the ipod is charging up. The juice pack comes with a mini usb cable which enables you to charge up the iPhone and the juice pack as well as sync your ipod when you plug it in to your computer. Hope this helps, Lyn, Canelle & Epi On Dec 1, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Desi Noller wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Is it true that you can get a case for the iPod Touch that will actually charge the iPod Touch? If so, what cases would you recommend, and how do they work? Thanks so much in advance for any light you can shed on this? > > Desi > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From moriond at mac.com Thu Dec 1 19:19:53 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 09:19:53 -1000 Subject: Mac App Store 1 Day $0.99 App "Bundle" deals Message-ID: Hi All, I'm posting the link to "The First Mac App Store Bundle": http://zeroninetynine.com/ This lists 11 apps that normally go for prices up to $19.99 that are on sale today, only, for $0.99. This isn't really a "bundle", in that any of these apps can be individually purchased for $0.99. Some of these seem to be for graphics, so may not be accessible. The apps that are included in this one-day 99? sale are MacPaw?s Ensoul and Hider, Coppertino?s Focus, and Apparent Software?s Blast Utility. Other apps included are Alarm Pro, Inpaint, Compartments, iResizer, Virus Barrier Plus, Washing Machine and Intego Backup Express. There's a little under 15 hours left to check it out. HTH. Cheers, Esther From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 20:03:20 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:03:20 -0800 Subject: Converting protected iTunes tracks through iTunes Match Message-ID: <31519A93-0AFF-4376-92E8-0597C7CD8E0D@gmail.com> here is an intersting read on how to do just that for those that don't like DRM. Converting protected iTunes tracks through iTunes Match A reader would love to convert his protected iTunes tracks through iTunes Match but it won't let him redownload those tracks. The secret is making them disappear from your iTunes library. http://onj.me/1u2 From moriond at mac.com Thu Dec 1 20:06:49 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:06:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Nisus Writer Pro is part of $49.95 MacLegion Winter Bundle Message-ID: Hi All, There's been some recent discussion and interest in Nisus Writer Pro. ?This application is being offered as part of the MacLegion 2011 Winter Bundle of 10 apps for $49.95. ?It regularly lists for $7900, and these apps entitle you to the full support of regular purchases and updates, so this is a good deal. ?Other interesting apps previously discussed on list are MacGourmet Deluxe (normally $49.95). ?I believe I read that you can designate licenses for apps you already own to other users, but I'm not sure about that. ?This deal runs through the next 11 days. http://maclegion.com Cheers, Esther From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 20:09:26 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:09:26 -0800 Subject: Five unexpected uses for help tags Message-ID: In this article they discuss some uses for help tags. I wish that all apps came with these. Five unexpected uses for help tags Sharon Zardetto shows how you can use help tags (formerly known as tooltips) to find the full name or path of a file in the Finder, get a quick summary of a help topic, learn all about a font, and more. http://onj.me/1u3 From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Dec 1 20:10:53 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 07:10:53 +1100 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro is part of $49.95 MacLegion Winter Bundle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <189A5A02-4DAC-4429-9073-664EB5C3A4EF@internode.on.net> Gee! that's a giveaway price concerning Nisus Writer pro, I thoroughly recommend it for a word processor, have been using it here for over 5 years now. Its only real downside is that you can't access tables, developers are aware of this. Having said that I just downloaded the latest update this morning so I wonder if anything's changed . On 02/12/2011, at 7:06 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi All, > > There's been some recent discussion and interest in Nisus Writer Pro. This application is being offered as part of the MacLegion 2011 Winter Bundle of 10 apps for $49.95. It regularly lists for $7900, and these apps entitle you to the full support of regular purchases and updates, so this is a good deal. Other interesting apps previously discussed on list are MacGourmet Deluxe (normally $49.95). I believe I read that you can designate licenses for apps you already own to other users, but I'm not sure about that. This deal runs through the next 11 days. > > http://maclegion.com > > Cheers, > > Esther > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk Thu Dec 1 22:00:48 2011 From: sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk (Sunil Peck) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 22:00:48 +0000 Subject: Unmuting system sound Message-ID: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02E2A608C0F6@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Hi, Just got an iMac. Turned it on for the first time and had sighted help so when the set-up process for accounts and internet connection etc started it didn't matter that I hadn't started VoiceOver. When I did try to start it though I couldn't hear anything even though on the screen it says that it's on. I also noticed after rebooting that there was no sound at start up. So I'm guessing that somehow system sound has been muted. Is there a shortcut to unmute it? If not, what's the easiest way of doing it? Thanks Sunil Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by guarantee (number 520866). Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. Our VAT number is 805156939. Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the views of Scope. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 22:29:54 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:29:54 -0800 Subject: Unmuting system sound In-Reply-To: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02E2A608C0F6@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02E2A608C0F6@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello. try I think it' sf10. I am on a laptop so dunno how similar the keystrokes are. Take care. Make sure vo is not muted by going to the vo utility and checking to see if the mute is checked under speech tab. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Sunil Peck wrote: > Hi, > > Just got an iMac. Turned it on for the first time and had sighted help so when the set-up process for accounts and internet connection etc started it didn't matter that I hadn't started VoiceOver. > > When I did try to start it though I couldn't hear anything even though on the screen it says that it's on. I also noticed after rebooting that there was no sound at start up. So I'm guessing that somehow system sound has been muted. Is there a shortcut to unmute it? If not, what's the easiest way of doing it? > > Thanks > Sunil > > Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by > guarantee (number 520866). > Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. > Our VAT number is 805156939. > > > Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk > > This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential > and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been > addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this > message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are > required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the > sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, > or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use > of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the > intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with > it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the > views of Scope. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Thu Dec 1 22:31:20 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 22:31:20 +0000 Subject: Unmuting system sound In-Reply-To: References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02E2A608C0F6@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: depending on your configuration, it's F10 on it's own, or if you've set your keyboard to use normal function keys (F1-F12) then it's FN-F10 lew On 1 Dec 2011, at 22:29, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. try I think it' sf10. I am on a laptop so dunno how similar the keystrokes are. > > Take care. > > > Make sure vo is not muted by going to the vo utility and checking to see if the mute is checked under speech tab. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Sunil Peck wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Just got an iMac. Turned it on for the first time and had sighted help so when the set-up process for accounts and internet connection etc started it didn't matter that I hadn't started VoiceOver. >> >> When I did try to start it though I couldn't hear anything even though on the screen it says that it's on. I also noticed after rebooting that there was no sound at start up. So I'm guessing that somehow system sound has been muted. Is there a shortcut to unmute it? If not, what's the easiest way of doing it? >> >> Thanks >> Sunil >> >> Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by >> guarantee (number 520866). >> Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. >> Our VAT number is 805156939. >> >> >> Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk >> >> This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential >> and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been >> addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or >> privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this >> message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are >> required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the >> sender immediately. 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Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From stuartyoung at samobile.net Thu Dec 1 22:49:19 2011 From: stuartyoung at samobile.net (Stuart Young) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:49:19 -0500 Subject: djay 4 Message-ID: 2a0e09fe-a4cd-4153-9f63-4d66104b6249@samobile.net Hi all. I have just purchased Djay version 4, and I am currently deciding which USB controller to purchase. I need some advice, e.g. which one would work the best for a blind person, as i am planning to dj at clubs/bars/party's. and I will need something really reliable. many thanks for all of your help. Regards. Stuart. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 23:19:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 15:19:48 -0800 Subject: Unmuting system sound In-Reply-To: References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02E2A608C0F6@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: <6034D95D-FE6E-49DD-B13D-F4F46DA09231@gmail.com> She's on an Imic. Given that I have never seen the IMac keyboard I can't tell her which ine it is but hopefully one of those will work. *smiles* If not I really don't know. On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > depending on your configuration, it's F10 on it's own, or if you've set your keyboard to use normal function keys (F1-F12) then it's FN-F10 > > lew > > On 1 Dec 2011, at 22:29, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello. try I think it' sf10. I am on a laptop so dunno how similar the keystrokes are. >> >> Take care. >> >> >> Make sure vo is not muted by going to the vo utility and checking to see if the mute is checked under speech tab. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >> If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Sunil Peck wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just got an iMac. Turned it on for the first time and had sighted help so when the set-up process for accounts and internet connection etc started it didn't matter that I hadn't started VoiceOver. >>> >>> When I did try to start it though I couldn't hear anything even though on the screen it says that it's on. I also noticed after rebooting that there was no sound at start up. So I'm guessing that somehow system sound has been muted. Is there a shortcut to unmute it? If not, what's the easiest way of doing it? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Sunil >>> >>> Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by >>> guarantee (number 520866). >>> Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. >>> Our VAT number is 805156939. >>> >>> >>> Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk >>> >>> This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential >>> and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been >>> addressed by the sender. 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Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, >>> or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use >>> of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the >>> intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. >>> >>> Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with >>> it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the >>> views of Scope. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Dec 2 00:59:44 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 19:59:44 -0500 Subject: giving someone access to a file on another drive using ftp In-Reply-To: References: <3EF3225C-EACD-489C-9C66-9826A393F62E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, you could try a hard link instead of a sim-link, but I don't think it would work any better, but it's always worth a try. To do a hard link, use a -h instead of a -s in the ln command. Hard links work well in cases where it's desirable to have direct access to a file (generally where file systems won't follow sim-links) but you can't do a hard link across devices like you can with sim-links, so their usefulness is limited, but sometimes, they do get around issues where programs won't access things via a sim-link. From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 2 01:18:01 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:18:01 -0800 Subject: giving someone access to a file on another drive using ftp In-Reply-To: References: <3EF3225C-EACD-489C-9C66-9826A393F62E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <13F1DEB8-8539-4F36-8A4F-41ED650E96BE@gmail.com> lol. I did the sim link via the action in automater and wrote a work flow to do this. the cmd line failed as it never could change to where I was going to put the file. but the work flow went good. We'll see if my friend can access this thing. On Dec 1, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Well, you could try a hard link instead of a sim-link, but I don't think it would work any better, but it's always worth a try. > To do a hard link, use a -h instead of a -s in the ln command. Hard links work well in cases where it's desirable to have direct access to a file (generally where file systems won't follow sim-links) but you can't do a hard link across devices like you can with sim-links, so their usefulness is limited, but sometimes, they do get around issues where programs won't access things via a sim-link. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Fri Dec 2 01:57:00 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 19:57:00 -0600 Subject: Voice over at start up Message-ID: <8B92D50D-66F7-4EAD-9FB2-9E64B940ACC3@swbell.net> Hi list: Was wondering if anyone had ideas on how to fix this problem? I turn off my laptop so we are working with a macbook pro and it goes to I guess the desktop. The problem is sometimes voice over does not turn on at all. I have to play around with it to make it turn on. It did not do this all the tim ebut has for the last few weeks I guess. Can someone tell me what I can to or trouble shooting to make the voice over com eon again right away? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. From GlennErvin at cableone.net Fri Dec 2 02:33:40 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (G.E.) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 20:33:40 -0600 Subject: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps References: <4ed75d9b.218fec0a.1f23.ffffbd96@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <417701F05E36407984FEBC171352FFB3@your2c061f0461> Hi Lyn, I sold my iPod 4G, shortly after I got it, so I could buy an iPhone 4G. It did not work well with the iPod unless I had it under perfect scanning conditions, i.e., light and an easy to locate barcode. I use it on my iPhone, and it works well on that, but if the light is not good, it too sometimes has trouble. I think that the new iPhone with the 8MP camera will be better for this. But I don't regret buying it for the iPhone. I installed it onto both products for the same price, as iTunes let me sync my apps onto both products. You can get printer templates with barcodes that are not assigned to anything, and you print them onto labels, and you can stick them onto whatever you want and then you assign a recording of its description with Digit Eyes. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn & her faithful furry friends" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps Glen, Can you please tell me more about digitize, how does this work, what kind of info do you get from scanning the barcode other than the name of the product? I would be interested in it but I'd love to have some feedback from users before investing money in the app. I have an Iphone 4 and an Ipod touch 4th generation, how well would it work on those devices? Thanks a lot for any help in this matter, really appreciate it. Lyn, Canelle & Epi On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Sandy Tomkins wrote: > do not know vut it is free > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 1 Dec 2011, at 10:57, Stephanie Mitchell > wrote: > >> Will this work on Australian products? >> Steph >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sandy Tomkins > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Date sent: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:55:10 +0000 >> Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps >> >> try red laser >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 30 Nov 2011, at 18:45, "Bubba" wrote: >> >> Well, there is accessible barcode apps but I have not found one I really >> like the way it works! The best one out there is called I think Digit >> Eyes >> or something like that . But I just use VizWiz or OMoby to do my ID or I >> use my ID mate. See link to VizWiz and OMoby below and Digit Eyes . >> >> >> >> http://omoby.com/pages/index.php >> >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vizwiz/id439686043?mt=8 >> >> http://www.digit-eyes.com/ >> >> >> Sign, >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:28 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps >> >> I'm not sure if there are. however if there are I'd love to know too as >> that's been a pain in the neck for me for years. It'd be nice to go >> shopping, scan a code, get a price on a product without finding a member >> of >> staff who quite frankly doesn't care one bit about serving their >> customers. >> I mean... after all.... we pay their bloomin wages don't we? >> >> oops. Smiles with embarrassment. >> >> lew >> >> free macs for the blind. >> >> On 30 Nov 2011, at 17:26, Luis Guerra wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Are there any accessible bar code apps that work well on the Ipod Tuch? I >> want to use this ap to scan and identify frozen meals and canned goods. >> >> Thanks. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >> the list website at: >> > >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working >> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR >> FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or >> a >> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in >> touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to >> help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >> the list website at: >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Fri Dec 2 09:24:52 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 04:24:52 -0500 Subject: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps In-Reply-To: <417701F05E36407984FEBC171352FFB3@your2c061f0461> References: <4ed75d9b.218fec0a.1f23.ffffbd96@mx.google.com> <417701F05E36407984FEBC171352FFB3@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <01d201ccb0d4$40295e30$c07c1a90$@gmail.com> Yes, the IPhone 4 has a 5meg pixel camber with flash and the iphone4s has a 8 meg pixel camera with a brighter flash and bigger lens so the iphone4s will do much better in this. Now you said you traded in your iPod for a iphone4g and there is not a iphone4g! there is a iphone3g which does not have Vo on it and the iphone3gs and the iphone4 and the iphone4s which all have Vo on them. So don't know which one you mint to say! But no iphone4g! JST Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of G.E. Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:34 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps Hi Lyn, I sold my iPod 4G, shortly after I got it, so I could buy an iPhone 4G. It did not work well with the iPod unless I had it under perfect scanning conditions, i.e., light and an easy to locate barcode. I use it on my iPhone, and it works well on that, but if the light is not good, it too sometimes has trouble. I think that the new iPhone with the 8MP camera will be better for this. But I don't regret buying it for the iPhone. I installed it onto both products for the same price, as iTunes let me sync my apps onto both products. You can get printer templates with barcodes that are not assigned to anything, and you print them onto labels, and you can stick them onto whatever you want and then you assign a recording of its description with Digit Eyes. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn & her faithful furry friends" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps Glen, Can you please tell me more about digitize, how does this work, what kind of info do you get from scanning the barcode other than the name of the product? I would be interested in it but I'd love to have some feedback from users before investing money in the app. I have an Iphone 4 and an Ipod touch 4th generation, how well would it work on those devices? Thanks a lot for any help in this matter, really appreciate it. Lyn, Canelle & Epi On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Sandy Tomkins wrote: > do not know vut it is free > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 1 Dec 2011, at 10:57, Stephanie Mitchell > wrote: > >> Will this work on Australian products? >> Steph >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sandy Tomkins > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:55:10 +0000 >> Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps >> >> try red laser >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 30 Nov 2011, at 18:45, "Bubba" wrote: >> >> Well, there is accessible barcode apps but I have not found one I >> really like the way it works! The best one out there is called I >> think Digit Eyes or something like that . But I just use VizWiz or >> OMoby to do my ID or I use my ID mate. See link to VizWiz and OMoby >> below and Digit Eyes . >> >> >> >> http://omoby.com/pages/index.php >> >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vizwiz/id439686043?mt=8 >> >> http://www.digit-eyes.com/ >> >> >> Sign, >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis >> Alexander >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:28 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps >> >> I'm not sure if there are. however if there are I'd love to know too >> as that's been a pain in the neck for me for years. It'd be nice to >> go shopping, scan a code, get a price on a product without finding a >> member of staff who quite frankly doesn't care one bit about serving >> their customers. >> I mean... after all.... we pay their bloomin wages don't we? >> >> oops. Smiles with embarrassment. >> >> lew >> >> free macs for the blind. >> >> On 30 Nov 2011, at 17:26, Luis Guerra wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Are there any accessible bar code apps that work well on the Ipod >> Tuch? I want to use this ap to scan and identify frozen meals and canned goods. >> >> Thanks. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but >> working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout >> the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, >> etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please >> get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here >> to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From GlennErvin at cableone.net Fri Dec 2 14:22:38 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (G.E.) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 08:22:38 -0600 Subject: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps References: <4ed75d9b.218fec0a.1f23.ffffbd96@mx.google.com><417701F05E36407984FEBC171352FFB3@your2c061f0461> <01d201ccb0d4$40295e30$c07c1a90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, the iPod 4, which is what I had, you can add or remove the G if you wish, but there is an iPod 4, because I had one. It has a 1.7 mega pixel camera, which can scan barcodes, but not very reliably. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 3:24 AM Subject: RE: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps Yes, the IPhone 4 has a 5meg pixel camber with flash and the iphone4s has a 8 meg pixel camera with a brighter flash and bigger lens so the iphone4s will do much better in this. Now you said you traded in your iPod for a iphone4g and there is not a iphone4g! there is a iphone3g which does not have Vo on it and the iphone3gs and the iphone4 and the iphone4s which all have Vo on them. So don't know which one you mint to say! But no iphone4g! JST Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of G.E. Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:34 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps Hi Lyn, I sold my iPod 4G, shortly after I got it, so I could buy an iPhone 4G. It did not work well with the iPod unless I had it under perfect scanning conditions, i.e., light and an easy to locate barcode. I use it on my iPhone, and it works well on that, but if the light is not good, it too sometimes has trouble. I think that the new iPhone with the 8MP camera will be better for this. But I don't regret buying it for the iPhone. I installed it onto both products for the same price, as iTunes let me sync my apps onto both products. You can get printer templates with barcodes that are not assigned to anything, and you print them onto labels, and you can stick them onto whatever you want and then you assign a recording of its description with Digit Eyes. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn & her faithful furry friends" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps Glen, Can you please tell me more about digitize, how does this work, what kind of info do you get from scanning the barcode other than the name of the product? I would be interested in it but I'd love to have some feedback from users before investing money in the app. I have an Iphone 4 and an Ipod touch 4th generation, how well would it work on those devices? Thanks a lot for any help in this matter, really appreciate it. Lyn, Canelle & Epi On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Sandy Tomkins wrote: > do not know vut it is free > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 1 Dec 2011, at 10:57, Stephanie Mitchell > wrote: > >> Will this work on Australian products? >> Steph >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sandy Tomkins > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:55:10 +0000 >> Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps >> >> try red laser >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 30 Nov 2011, at 18:45, "Bubba" wrote: >> >> Well, there is accessible barcode apps but I have not found one I >> really like the way it works! The best one out there is called I >> think Digit Eyes or something like that . But I just use VizWiz or >> OMoby to do my ID or I use my ID mate. See link to VizWiz and OMoby >> below and Digit Eyes . >> >> >> >> http://omoby.com/pages/index.php >> >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vizwiz/id439686043?mt=8 >> >> http://www.digit-eyes.com/ >> >> >> Sign, >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis >> Alexander >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:28 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Accessible Bar Code Scanning Apps >> >> I'm not sure if there are. however if there are I'd love to know too >> as that's been a pain in the neck for me for years. It'd be nice to >> go shopping, scan a code, get a price on a product without finding a >> member of staff who quite frankly doesn't care one bit about serving >> their customers. >> I mean... after all.... we pay their bloomin wages don't we? >> >> oops. Smiles with embarrassment. >> >> lew >> >> free macs for the blind. >> >> On 30 Nov 2011, at 17:26, Luis Guerra wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Are there any accessible bar code apps that work well on the Ipod >> Tuch? I want to use this ap to scan and identify frozen meals and canned goods. >> >> Thanks. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but >> working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout >> the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, >> etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please >> get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here >> to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > ml >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Fri Dec 2 14:50:34 2011 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 08:50:34 -0600 Subject: programming on the mac Message-ID: <201112021450.pB2EoYRg071225@x.it.okstate.edu> This topic interests me. What does it take to write applications for the iphone and ipad? I don't have either one now, but it would be fun to get an ipad someday and be able to play with the GPS, camera and sound. I am sure there are apps out there that nobody has thought of yet or are so specialized that they won't get done unless I do them. When I began learning the Apple II in 1979, I started learning assembly language for the 6502. I did the same thing when I moved to P.C's and wrote my own screen reader for dos. I figured I'd rather go through the pain and expense of buying an assembler and learn something than go through the expense of buying a sealed box, so to speak and wishing I could tweak things. So, if I ever get an ipad, I want to eventually be able to write programs for that. What I am most familiar with right now is gcc. C builds character but mine isn't yet built. Sean Murphy writes: > Hi, > > Perl, ruby, Apple script are all good languages to learn basic > programming from. Apple Script is quite unusual compared to any other > language I have played with. I would suggest Ruby or Perl. > > The biggest issue with programming. You have to find a project that is > easy enough to do, but not so difficult that it is impossible at your > level of skill. If you are learning, then pick something that is simple. > > Programming can also include database management, web programming, system > calls and more. > > Sean From nc5rnc5r at gmail.com Fri Dec 2 22:09:19 2011 From: nc5rnc5r at gmail.com (Robert Carter) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:09:19 -0600 Subject: iOS5 and Braille" A New Tech Doctor Podcast Message-ID: <23AC6B3B-0985-4676-A802-862667208603@gmail.com> Hi Everybody, I just wanted to let you know that there is a new Tech Doctor podcast just published. In this issue, Robert Carter and Deb Lewis carefully examine the major aspects of working with a braille display with an Apple device running iOS version 5. Check it out at http://www.dr-carter.com Robert Carter From david.mclean at cox.net Fri Dec 2 22:30:53 2011 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:30:53 -0500 Subject: iOS5 and Braille" A New Tech Doctor Podcast In-Reply-To: <23AC6B3B-0985-4676-A802-862667208603@gmail.com> References: <23AC6B3B-0985-4676-A802-862667208603@gmail.com> Message-ID: <89E26253-C184-44DB-9C93-18DCB16C7849@cox.net> Your link to common Braille commands doesn't work by the way. On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > I just wanted to let you know that there is a new Tech Doctor podcast just published. > > In this issue, Robert Carter and Deb Lewis carefully examine the major aspects of working with a braille display with an Apple device running iOS version 5. > > Check it out at > http://www.dr-carter.com > > Robert Carter > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Dec 2 22:32:31 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:32:31 +0000 Subject: VoiceOver error code Message-ID: Hi folks, This evening, Voiceover crashed on me. After checking the Console, I discovered an error code "25204". i've searched for this on Google, but without success Does anyone know what this error code refers to please? Thanks TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 2 23:54:01 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:54:01 -0800 Subject: VoiceOver error code In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42737D91-EE15-4167-86BF-BE6C28F56584@gmail.com> I would email accessibility at apple.com and see and email them an excerpt of that consol. I have no idea. Sorry about that. On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:32 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi folks, > > This evening, Voiceover crashed on me. After checking the Console, I discovered an error code "25204". i've searched for this on Google, but without success Does anyone know what this error code refers to please? > > Thanks > TC :) > J > > You can contact me in the following ways: > E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Dec 3 00:17:04 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 00:17:04 +0000 Subject: VoiceOver error code In-Reply-To: <42737D91-EE15-4167-86BF-BE6C28F56584@gmail.com> References: <42737D91-EE15-4167-86BF-BE6C28F56584@gmail.com> Message-ID: <243CFBC4-A2AB-4E09-9E77-99405CEDEAB2@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah, Thanks for that, I'll do that over the weekend. TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 2 Dec 2011, at 23:54, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I would email accessibility at apple.com and see and email them an excerpt of that consol. I have no idea. Sorry about that. > On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:32 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> This evening, Voiceover crashed on me. After checking the Console, I discovered an error code "25204". i've searched for this on Google, but without success Does anyone know what this error code refers to please? >> >> Thanks >> TC :) >> J >> >> You can contact me in the following ways: >> E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net >> MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com >> Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From nc5rnc5r at gmail.com Sat Dec 3 02:05:11 2011 From: nc5rnc5r at gmail.com (Robert Carter) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 20:05:11 -0600 Subject: iOS5 and Braille" A New Tech Doctor Podcast In-Reply-To: <89E26253-C184-44DB-9C93-18DCB16C7849@cox.net> References: <23AC6B3B-0985-4676-A802-862667208603@gmail.com> <89E26253-C184-44DB-9C93-18DCB16C7849@cox.net> Message-ID: Hi David, When I click either link in safari, they both work as expected for me. How are you attempting to activate them? Anybody else having trouble with the links? Robert Carter On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:30 PM, David McLean wrote: > Your link to common Braille commands doesn't work by the way. > On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > >> Hi Everybody, >> >> I just wanted to let you know that there is a new Tech Doctor podcast just published. >> >> In this issue, Robert Carter and Deb Lewis carefully examine the major aspects of working with a braille display with an Apple device running iOS version 5. >> >> Check it out at >> http://www.dr-carter.com >> >> Robert Carter >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From david.mclean at cox.net Sat Dec 3 02:32:22 2011 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 21:32:22 -0500 Subject: iOS5 and Braille" A New Tech Doctor Podcast In-Reply-To: References: <23AC6B3B-0985-4676-A802-862667208603@gmail.com> <89E26253-C184-44DB-9C93-18DCB16C7849@cox.net> Message-ID: I just clicked the link that says common braille commands. I am using Safari also. On Dec 2, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > Hi David, > > When I click either link in safari, they both work as expected for me. How are you attempting to activate them? Anybody else having trouble with the links? > > Robert Carter > On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:30 PM, David McLean wrote: > >> Your link to common Braille commands doesn't work by the way. >> On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Robert Carter wrote: >> >>> Hi Everybody, >>> >>> I just wanted to let you know that there is a new Tech Doctor podcast just published. >>> >>> In this issue, Robert Carter and Deb Lewis carefully examine the major aspects of working with a braille display with an Apple device running iOS version 5. >>> >>> Check it out at >>> http://www.dr-carter.com >>> >>> Robert Carter >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From david.mclean at cox.net Sat Dec 3 02:37:48 2011 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 21:37:48 -0500 Subject: iOS5 and Braille" A New Tech Doctor Podcast In-Reply-To: References: <23AC6B3B-0985-4676-A802-862667208603@gmail.com> <89E26253-C184-44DB-9C93-18DCB16C7849@cox.net> Message-ID: Well oddly enough I am getting something completely different now which also includes the downloadable podcast. Before I just got a short narrative on the iOS capabilities with Braille. Guess I must have clicked the wrong link, not sure. On Dec 2, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > Hi David, > > When I click either link in safari, they both work as expected for me. How are you attempting to activate them? Anybody else having trouble with the links? > > Robert Carter > On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:30 PM, David McLean wrote: > >> Your link to common Braille commands doesn't work by the way. >> On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Robert Carter wrote: >> >>> Hi Everybody, >>> >>> I just wanted to let you know that there is a new Tech Doctor podcast just published. >>> >>> In this issue, Robert Carter and Deb Lewis carefully examine the major aspects of working with a braille display with an Apple device running iOS version 5. >>> >>> Check it out at >>> http://www.dr-carter.com >>> >>> Robert Carter >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From nc5rnc5r at gmail.com Sat Dec 3 02:44:05 2011 From: nc5rnc5r at gmail.com (Robert Carter) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 20:44:05 -0600 Subject: iOS5 and Braille" A New Tech Doctor Podcast In-Reply-To: References: <23AC6B3B-0985-4676-A802-862667208603@gmail.com> <89E26253-C184-44DB-9C93-18DCB16C7849@cox.net> Message-ID: Hi David, I see now. The links that I put in my show notes work but apparently one of the articles that is linked to on the apple vis page is not working. Thanks, Robert Carter On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:32 PM, David McLean wrote: > I just clicked the link that says common braille commands. I am using Safari also. > On Dec 2, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> When I click either link in safari, they both work as expected for me. How are you attempting to activate them? Anybody else having trouble with the links? >> >> Robert Carter >> On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:30 PM, David McLean wrote: >> >>> Your link to common Braille commands doesn't work by the way. >>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Robert Carter wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Everybody, >>>> >>>> I just wanted to let you know that there is a new Tech Doctor podcast just published. >>>> >>>> In this issue, Robert Carter and Deb Lewis carefully examine the major aspects of working with a braille display with an Apple device running iOS version 5. >>>> >>>> Check it out at >>>> http://www.dr-carter.com >>>> >>>> Robert Carter >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jekis at me.com Sat Dec 3 02:36:08 2011 From: jekis at me.com (Justin Ekis) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:36:08 -0800 Subject: iOS5 and Braille" A New Tech Doctor Podcast In-Reply-To: <23AC6B3B-0985-4676-A802-862667208603@gmail.com> References: <23AC6B3B-0985-4676-A802-862667208603@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9FFA3F8E-CA34-4B50-AAC4-2DA42C579AC4@me.com> Hello, I enjoyed this podcast, and decided to try a second time to use my iPhone with my BrailleNote Apex as a display. I was quickly reminded about a limitation of the apex which makes it less than ideal for use with iOS. The letter h with the space bar is captured by the apex and brings up a help menu for the braille terminal mode, rather than returning to the iOS home screen. Do you know of a workaround to accomplish the same thing? Thanks, Justin On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Robert Carter wrote: Hi Everybody, I just wanted to let you know that there is a new Tech Doctor podcast just published. In this issue, Robert Carter and Deb Lewis carefully examine the major aspects of working with a braille display with an Apple device running iOS version 5. Check it out at http://www.dr-carter.com Robert Carter <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Dec 3 12:46:20 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:46:20 +0000 Subject: Removing the signature from the mail app Message-ID: <4EDA1A1C.90609@techno-chat.net> Here is how you remove the default signature when you send an e-mail through the mail app. 1. Double tap settings. 2. Double tap mail, contacts and calendar. 3. Double tap the signature button. 4. Next to the text field is a clear button. Double tap that. 5. Exit the settings app. From now on no one will know which device you sent the mail from. From nc5rnc5r at gmail.com Sat Dec 3 14:04:22 2011 From: nc5rnc5r at gmail.com (Robert Carter) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 08:04:22 -0600 Subject: iOS5 and Braille" A New Tech Doctor Podcast In-Reply-To: <9FFA3F8E-CA34-4B50-AAC4-2DA42C579AC4@me.com> References: <23AC6B3B-0985-4676-A802-862667208603@gmail.com> <9FFA3F8E-CA34-4B50-AAC4-2DA42C579AC4@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Justin, Pressing the two middle thumb keys will issue the home command on the apex. Robert Carter On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: > Hello, > > I enjoyed this podcast, and decided to try a second time to use my iPhone with my BrailleNote Apex as a display. I was quickly reminded about a limitation of the apex which makes it less than ideal for use with iOS. The letter h with the space bar is captured by the apex and brings up a help menu for the braille terminal mode, rather than returning to the iOS home screen. Do you know of a workaround to accomplish the same thing? > > Thanks, > > Justin > > On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > I just wanted to let you know that there is a new Tech Doctor podcast just published. > > In this issue, Robert Carter and Deb Lewis carefully examine the major aspects of working with a braille display with an Apple device running iOS version 5. > > Check it out at > http://www.dr-carter.com > > Robert Carter > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From nc5rnc5r at gmail.com Sat Dec 3 14:09:53 2011 From: nc5rnc5r at gmail.com (Robert Carter) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 08:09:53 -0600 Subject: iTunes home sharing and copying songs Message-ID: <0A809029-CAA5-419E-8612-BF65DB14998A@gmail.com> Hi, When using iTunes home sharing, how does one use VoiceOver to copy a song in to a library that is being shared? I can see the desired library but the copy and paste commands don't seem to be actually placing the song in that library. Thanks, Robert Carter From jayrufo at verizon.net Sat Dec 3 16:01:48 2011 From: jayrufo at verizon.net (Jason Rufo) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:01:48 -0500 Subject: Voiceover Through Bluetooth Earpiece: Message-ID: Greetings, I'm seeking information about Bluetooth audio devices for use with a generation 4 IPod Touch running IOS 5.01. I would like to run a Bluetooth ear piece strictly for the purposes of being able to hear voiceover through the device for reviewing notes and additional information. To be more specific, I'm not looking for a pair of Bluetooth stereo headphones but rather a single mono headphone like one would use with a Bluetooth enabled cell phone. My research indicates this may work with a mono Bluetooth audio device with A2DP support however, I've yet to confirm these findings. I'd be grateful to know if anyone has had success pairing such a device for these purposes. Further, if someone has done this, I'd also like to know the make and model of the Bluetooth device that was used. Thank's in advance for considering my post. I welcome any information either on list or off. Best, Jay Rufo jayrufo at verizon.net From support at mac-access.net Sat Dec 3 16:06:52 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon, Lynne & Tracy) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 16:06:52 +0000 Subject: New TC Bookds Message-ID: Hello everybody I'm sorry I am a little late posting this; we are having problems about which I won't speak here. With iOS 5 and iCloud, Apple significantly expanded all that you can do on the iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch, but those new features require us end users to learn new skills and habits. To help you optimize your iOS 5 experience, we have two new ebooks for you today. 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Lynne From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Sat Dec 3 17:57:33 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 11:57:33 -0600 Subject: Skype help Message-ID: <8B4A5399-AD1D-4F8F-BF21-F1D778207437@swbell.net> Can someone tell me how to add someone to a conversation or a conference call? I have one active call but can not figure out how to add someone to the next call or another person to the call. Anyone give me som guidance. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 3 18:09:30 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 10:09:30 -0800 Subject: Skype help In-Reply-To: <8B4A5399-AD1D-4F8F-BF21-F1D778207437@swbell.net> References: <8B4A5399-AD1D-4F8F-BF21-F1D778207437@swbell.net> Message-ID: Hello. Hit add people and then search for or find the person you want int he table and hit vo shift space on them. then hit ok. or you can control click on the contact in your contact list and click invite to conference. Take care. On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:57 AM, michael maslo wrote: > Can someone tell me how to add someone to a conversation or a conference call? > > I have one active call but can not figure out how to add someone to the next call or another person to the call. > > Anyone give me som guidance. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sat Dec 3 18:12:22 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (G.E.) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:12:22 -0600 Subject: Skype help References: <8B4A5399-AD1D-4F8F-BF21-F1D778207437@swbell.net> Message-ID: Hi, This thread is for my search for help on deleting messages on Skype on an iPhone. I could have put a more specific question in the subject line, but I am still looking for help in this area. Please start a new thread with a different subject line for other questions and other answers. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:09 PM Subject: Re: Skype help Hello. Hit add people and then search for or find the person you want int he table and hit vo shift space on them. then hit ok. or you can control click on the contact in your contact list and click invite to conference. Take care. On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:57 AM, michael maslo wrote: > Can someone tell me how to add someone to a conversation or a conference > call? > > I have one active call but can not figure out how to add someone to the > next call or another person to the call. > > Anyone give me som guidance. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sat Dec 3 18:10:02 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (G.E.) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:10:02 -0600 Subject: Skype help References: <8B4A5399-AD1D-4F8F-BF21-F1D778207437@swbell.net> Message-ID: <1E115DA5ED764590845388826D3BDC55@your2c061f0461> Hi, Please don't highjack my thread. I was looking for help with my iPhone, and how to delete contacts. You should really start your own thread for your inquiries. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael maslo" To: "Mac OSX & Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Skype help Can someone tell me how to add someone to a conversation or a conference call? I have one active call but can not figure out how to add someone to the next call or another person to the call. Anyone give me som guidance. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 3 18:43:28 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 10:43:28 -0800 Subject: Skype help In-Reply-To: References: <8B4A5399-AD1D-4F8F-BF21-F1D778207437@swbell.net> Message-ID: <8B50F52B-34B6-466F-A7D7-2B8F249F6D27@gmail.com> I have not found a way to do this on the current skype for iphone. I tried swiping on the message to no avail. Actually they are now conversations so voice mails, file requests and stuff will be there and they go in the history portion on the computer skype when you close them. If you find a way to delete messages on skype for Iphone let me know as well. On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:12 AM, G.E. wrote: > Hi, > This thread is for my search for help on deleting messages on Skype on an > iPhone. > I could have put a more specific question in the subject line, but I am > still looking for help in this area. > Please start a new thread with a different subject line for other questions > and other answers. > > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:09 PM > Subject: Re: Skype help > > > Hello. Hit add people and then search for or find the person you want int he > table and hit vo shift space on them. then hit ok. or you can control click > on the contact in your contact list and click invite to conference. > > Take care. > On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:57 AM, michael maslo wrote: > >> Can someone tell me how to add someone to a conversation or a conference >> call? >> >> I have one active call but can not figure out how to add someone to the >> next call or another person to the call. >> >> Anyone give me som guidance. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 3 18:44:05 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 10:44:05 -0800 Subject: Skype help In-Reply-To: <1E115DA5ED764590845388826D3BDC55@your2c061f0461> References: <8B4A5399-AD1D-4F8F-BF21-F1D778207437@swbell.net> <1E115DA5ED764590845388826D3BDC55@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <23383314-7B92-41BF-95BC-3A7E9738F4C3@gmail.com> To delete contacts on skype for iphoen you shold just be able to double tap the contact but again I have not found a way to do this as well. On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:10 AM, G.E. wrote: > Hi, > Please don't highjack my thread. > I was looking for help with my iPhone, and how to delete contacts. > You should really start your own thread for your inquiries. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael maslo" > To: "Mac OSX & Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:57 AM > Subject: Skype help > > > Can someone tell me how to add someone to a conversation or a conference > call? > > I have one active call but can not figure out how to add someone to the next > call or another person to the call. > > Anyone give me som guidance. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Sat Dec 3 19:09:44 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:09:44 -0600 Subject: Skype help In-Reply-To: <8B50F52B-34B6-466F-A7D7-2B8F249F6D27@gmail.com> References: <8B4A5399-AD1D-4F8F-BF21-F1D778207437@swbell.net> <8B50F52B-34B6-466F-A7D7-2B8F249F6D27@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7E5C18D3-E16C-4B8D-B269-A02655E9EA1B@swbell.net> me too I can't figure out how to delete anything on the phone. It is so frustrating and on ereason I do not want to use it.On Dec 3, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I have not found a way to do this on the current skype for iphone. I tried swiping on the message to no avail. Actually they are now conversations so voice mails, file requests and stuff will be there and they go in the history portion on the computer skype when you close them. > > If you find a way to delete messages on skype for Iphone let me know as well. > On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:12 AM, G.E. wrote: > >> Hi, >> This thread is for my search for help on deleting messages on Skype on an >> iPhone. >> I could have put a more specific question in the subject line, but I am >> still looking for help in this area. >> Please start a new thread with a different subject line for other questions >> and other answers. >> >> Glenn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sarah Alawami" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:09 PM >> Subject: Re: Skype help >> >> >> Hello. Hit add people and then search for or find the person you want int he >> table and hit vo shift space on them. then hit ok. or you can control click >> on the contact in your contact list and click invite to conference. >> >> Take care. >> On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:57 AM, michael maslo wrote: >> >>> Can someone tell me how to add someone to a conversation or a conference >>> call? >>> >>> I have one active call but can not figure out how to add someone to the >>> next call or another person to the call. >>> >>> Anyone give me som guidance. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Sat Dec 3 19:13:36 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:13:36 -0600 Subject: Skype help In-Reply-To: <1E115DA5ED764590845388826D3BDC55@your2c061f0461> References: <8B4A5399-AD1D-4F8F-BF21-F1D778207437@swbell.net> <1E115DA5ED764590845388826D3BDC55@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <878CC634-D93F-47BC-8312-D7A30E7FD21C@swbell.net> I did so thanks On Dec 3, 2011, at 12:10 PM, G.E. wrote: > Hi, > Please don't highjack my thread. > I was looking for help with my iPhone, and how to delete contacts. > You should really start your own thread for your inquiries. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael maslo" > To: "Mac OSX & Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:57 AM > Subject: Skype help > > > Can someone tell me how to add someone to a conversation or a conference > call? > > I have one active call but can not figure out how to add someone to the next > call or another person to the call. > > Anyone give me som guidance. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 3 19:42:33 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 11:42:33 -0800 Subject: Skype help In-Reply-To: <7E5C18D3-E16C-4B8D-B269-A02655E9EA1B@swbell.net> References: <8B4A5399-AD1D-4F8F-BF21-F1D778207437@swbell.net> <8B50F52B-34B6-466F-A7D7-2B8F249F6D27@gmail.com> <7E5C18D3-E16C-4B8D-B269-A02655E9EA1B@swbell.net> Message-ID: I'll look in to it but I owuld not give up. Skype has changed a lot on the phone and they are aware of the acessibility issues an dplan on having a update. I dunno when though and I deleted the message inwhich the blog post was. On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:09 AM, michael maslo wrote: > me too > I can't figure out how to delete anything on the phone. It is so frustrating and on ereason I do not want to use it.On Dec 3, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I have not found a way to do this on the current skype for iphone. I tried swiping on the message to no avail. Actually they are now conversations so voice mails, file requests and stuff will be there and they go in the history portion on the computer skype when you close them. >> >> If you find a way to delete messages on skype for Iphone let me know as well. >> On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:12 AM, G.E. wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> This thread is for my search for help on deleting messages on Skype on an >>> iPhone. >>> I could have put a more specific question in the subject line, but I am >>> still looking for help in this area. >>> Please start a new thread with a different subject line for other questions >>> and other answers. >>> >>> Glenn >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sarah Alawami" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: Skype help >>> >>> >>> Hello. Hit add people and then search for or find the person you want int he >>> table and hit vo shift space on them. then hit ok. or you can control click >>> on the contact in your contact list and click invite to conference. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:57 AM, michael maslo wrote: >>> >>>> Can someone tell me how to add someone to a conversation or a conference >>>> call? >>>> >>>> I have one active call but can not figure out how to add someone to the >>>> next call or another person to the call. >>>> >>>> Anyone give me som guidance. >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jekis at me.com Sat Dec 3 19:52:51 2011 From: jekis at me.com (Justin Ekis) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:52:51 -0800 Subject: iOS5 and Braille" A New Tech Doctor Podcast In-Reply-To: References: <23AC6B3B-0985-4676-A802-862667208603@gmail.com> <9FFA3F8E-CA34-4B50-AAC4-2DA42C579AC4@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Robert, Thanks for the tip, but that is not working for me here. I recently updated to KeySoft 9.2. I wonder if they changed something. Thanks anyway. Justin Ekis On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:04 AM, Robert Carter wrote: Hi Justin, Pressing the two middle thumb keys will issue the home command on the apex. Robert Carter On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: > Hello, > > I enjoyed this podcast, and decided to try a second time to use my iPhone with my BrailleNote Apex as a display. I was quickly reminded about a limitation of the apex which makes it less than ideal for use with iOS. The letter h with the space bar is captured by the apex and brings up a help menu for the braille terminal mode, rather than returning to the iOS home screen. Do you know of a workaround to accomplish the same thing? > > Thanks, > > Justin > > On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > I just wanted to let you know that there is a new Tech Doctor podcast just published. > > In this issue, Robert Carter and Deb Lewis carefully examine the major aspects of working with a braille display with an Apple device running iOS version 5. > > Check it out at > http://www.dr-carter.com > > Robert Carter > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Dec 3 21:17:42 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:17:42 +0000 Subject: Flash player and Google Chrome Message-ID: <84A86FD2-FE5B-46C2-9D00-B81F2AB66092@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I am trying to play the sound for an E-card I have received. This requires Adobe Flash. I cannot locate the "play" button for flash using Safari on Lion 10.7.2 and am now wondering if I would have more joy using Google Chrome. I entered "Flash" as a search term in the list of Chrome extensions and got back rather a long list. Has anyone had any joy getting flash to work with either Safari or Google Chrome? If I view the E-card on Windows using the WindowEyes screen reader I can see a button which I have to press to get flash to play the card. I have flash 11 installed but am rather confused about flash extensions for browsers and the basic flash player. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sat Dec 3 21:37:32 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 15:37:32 -0600 Subject: VocalRider Message-ID: <06D110A8322A42E2B234326ECF05010F@joseph1> has anyone gotten ahold of, or has, the VocalRider thing that sings with midi files? or does anyone know what I'm talking about? it's by some company with the name "labs" in it? i had it once, but dunno what happened to it. heard it only works on the Mac, so... help! :) From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 3 21:42:44 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:42:44 -0800 Subject: VocalRider In-Reply-To: <06D110A8322A42E2B234326ECF05010F@joseph1> References: <06D110A8322A42E2B234326ECF05010F@joseph1> Message-ID: hello. try this linbk. http://kaelabs.com/ HTH. On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:37 PM, joe quinn wrote: > has anyone gotten ahold of, or has, the VocalRider thing that sings with midi files? or does anyone know what I'm talking about? it's by some company with the name "labs" in it? i had it once, but dunno what happened to it. heard it only works on the Mac, so... help! :) > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sat Dec 3 22:12:32 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 22:12:32 +0000 Subject: VocalRider In-Reply-To: References: <06D110A8322A42E2B234326ECF05010F@joseph1> Message-ID: <9F1BD623-06EB-47A6-BE67-BF7B594C2DF1@mac-access.net> now that's a program I wish I came across some years back. that would have done me rather proud in the old studios lol. was just listening to that and wow, great. hehehe lew On 3 Dec 2011, at 21:42, Sarah Alawami wrote: > hello. try this linbk. > > http://kaelabs.com/ > > HTH. > On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:37 PM, joe quinn wrote: > >> has anyone gotten ahold of, or has, the VocalRider thing that sings with midi files? or does anyone know what I'm talking about? it's by some company with the name "labs" in it? i had it once, but dunno what happened to it. heard it only works on the Mac, so... help! :) >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From nc5rnc5r at gmail.com Sat Dec 3 23:27:49 2011 From: nc5rnc5r at gmail.com (Robert Carter) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:27:49 -0600 Subject: iOS5 and Braille" A New Tech Doctor Podcast In-Reply-To: References: <23AC6B3B-0985-4676-A802-862667208603@gmail.com> <9FFA3F8E-CA34-4B50-AAC4-2DA42C579AC4@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Justin, Another thing that you can try is using the passthrough key followed by the chord-h. The passthrough key is dots 4-5-6-Enter. Robert Carter On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Thanks for the tip, but that is not working for me here. I recently updated to KeySoft 9.2. I wonder if they changed something. > > Thanks anyway. > > Justin Ekis > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:04 AM, Robert Carter wrote: > > Hi Justin, > > Pressing the two middle thumb keys will issue the home command on the apex. > > Robert Carter > On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I enjoyed this podcast, and decided to try a second time to use my iPhone with my BrailleNote Apex as a display. I was quickly reminded about a limitation of the apex which makes it less than ideal for use with iOS. The letter h with the space bar is captured by the apex and brings up a help menu for the braille terminal mode, rather than returning to the iOS home screen. Do you know of a workaround to accomplish the same thing? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Justin >> >> On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Robert Carter wrote: >> >> Hi Everybody, >> >> I just wanted to let you know that there is a new Tech Doctor podcast just published. >> >> In this issue, Robert Carter and Deb Lewis carefully examine the major aspects of working with a braille display with an Apple device running iOS version 5. >> >> Check it out at >> http://www.dr-carter.com >> >> Robert Carter >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 00:13:48 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 18:13:48 -0600 Subject: vocalrider Message-ID: <8E65BCEB57AA4B54BCD352D93E33F60B@joseph1> too bad it only works with power PC's or whatever... suppose there's no way to remedy this? From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 00:20:04 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 16:20:04 -0800 Subject: vocalrider In-Reply-To: <8E65BCEB57AA4B54BCD352D93E33F60B@joseph1> References: <8E65BCEB57AA4B54BCD352D93E33F60B@joseph1> Message-ID: <4D4C0FF2-0551-4659-9E3B-57731ECDD821@gmail.com> Nope unless you contact the dev. I'm surprised they did not upgrade to the better intel chipset. Take care. On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:13 PM, joe quinn wrote: > too bad it only works with power PC's or whatever... suppose there's no way to remedy this? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sun Dec 4 00:23:13 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (G.E.) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 18:23:13 -0600 Subject: Refund for an app Message-ID: <9738C5E2DDE74F66AD995586808C3A13@your2c061f0461> Hi, Is there a way to get a refund for an app I bought today? I bought a Braille keyboard app for my iPhone, called Type In Braille, by anyware technologies. This app is not very user friendly, and knowing that there is likely a keyboard app coming that is like the Perkins Brailler keys, this is not worth learning. It is a 5 dollar app. Anyway, I gave it only 1 star, and I would like to know if anyone knows how one goes about getting a refund. Thanks. Glenn From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Dec 4 00:56:26 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 19:56:26 -0500 Subject: iPhone not showing up in itunes Message-ID: <5EEC1E75-319E-4906-9B1C-1C016BE5A679@Mac-Access.net> Hello Listers, If anyone has had this happen I'd appreciate tips on how to get iTunes to recognize the phone. The situation is that good friends of mine that often share iPhone tips and help are now having the following problem They updated to Snow Leopard from Leopard. Now when they plug in their iPhone 4 to the computer iPhoto recognizes that a phone is there but in iTunes it does not show up. I had them restart their computers and restart their phones but it did not change the problem. Also we did google and looked on the Apple site but we didn't find a answer. in most cases the help areas just assumed that when you plug in the phone to the computer it will show up in devices. Nothing was mentioned about what to do if that doesn't happen! I've bragged about how helpful this list is so I'm pushing the limits here to see if I can help them. I owe them for mush Apple help and would love to give back. In fact when my Mac Book showed up new in the box it was these friends who helped with my first big problem. that was... Finding the darn start button. That thing can be really hard for a newbie to find! Eric Caron From orin8722 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 02:30:23 2011 From: orin8722 at gmail.com (Orin) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:30:23 -0500 Subject: SArchiver discoun code/link Message-ID: Hi guys, I was just curious if I could still get the Macaccess discount for SArchiver? It sounds like a pretty sweet program. Thanks. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 From gunn at tznet.com Sun Dec 4 04:59:06 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 22:59:06 -0600 Subject: iPhone not showing up in itunes In-Reply-To: <5EEC1E75-319E-4906-9B1C-1C016BE5A679@Mac-Access.net> References: <5EEC1E75-319E-4906-9B1C-1C016BE5A679@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <9513A940-D689-417B-91D2-88768B903525@tznet.com> Hello: I've heard of this kind of issue on a tech podcast and the fix was to re-install iTunes. When installing you won't have to worry about loosing data. John On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hello Listers, > > If anyone has had this happen I'd appreciate tips on how to get iTunes to recognize the phone. > > The situation is that good friends of mine that often share iPhone tips and help are now having the following problem > > > They updated to Snow Leopard from Leopard. Now when they plug in their iPhone 4 to the computer iPhoto recognizes that a phone is there but in iTunes it does not show up. I had them restart their computers and restart their phones but it did not change the problem. > > Also we did google and looked on the Apple site but we didn't find a answer. in most cases the help areas just assumed that when you plug in the phone to the computer it will show up in devices. Nothing was mentioned about what to do if that doesn't happen! > > I've bragged about how helpful this list is so I'm pushing the limits here to see if I can help them. I owe them for mush Apple help and would love to give back. In fact when my Mac Book showed up new in the box it was these friends who helped with my first big problem. that was... Finding the darn start button. That thing can be really hard for a newbie to find! > > Eric Caron > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 05:21:41 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 00:21:41 -0500 Subject: Voiceover Through Bluetooth Earpiece: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004201ccb244$9bec32d0$d3c49870$@gmail.com> Hi, this is true if it has A2DP it will work. But finding a mono ear piece will be hard that has A2DP as this would mean that it would have stereo in one ear . There used to be one like this but I think it has well been discontinue. Now you might get a head set that would be in both ears and then you can unhook the wire that hooks the two pieces together but not sure about that. HTH Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Jason Rufo Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:02 AM To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Voiceover Through Bluetooth Earpiece: Greetings, I'm seeking information about Bluetooth audio devices for use with a generation 4 IPod Touch running IOS 5.01. I would like to run a Bluetooth ear piece strictly for the purposes of being able to hear voiceover through the device for reviewing notes and additional information. To be more specific, I'm not looking for a pair of Bluetooth stereo headphones but rather a single mono headphone like one would use with a Bluetooth enabled cell phone. My research indicates this may work with a mono Bluetooth audio device with A2DP support however, I've yet to confirm these findings. I'd be grateful to know if anyone has had success pairing such a device for these purposes. Further, if someone has done this, I'd also like to know the make and model of the Bluetooth device that was used. Thank's in advance for considering my post. I welcome any information either on list or off. Best, Jay Rufo jayrufo at verizon.net <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 05:46:00 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 00:46:00 -0500 Subject: Refund for an app In-Reply-To: <9738C5E2DDE74F66AD995586808C3A13@your2c061f0461> References: <9738C5E2DDE74F66AD995586808C3A13@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <005901ccb248$01811d10$04835730$@gmail.com> Yes, there is and it has to meet certain things and this has to be either don't work or do what it says or in our case not accessible or useable by us with Vo !Now here is a link saying how to go about doing this. HTH http://www.knowyourmobile.com/features/408977/how_to_get_a_refund_from_the_i tunes_app_store.html Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of G.E. Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 7:23 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Refund for an app Hi, Is there a way to get a refund for an app I bought today? I bought a Braille keyboard app for my iPhone, called Type In Braille, by anyware technologies. This app is not very user friendly, and knowing that there is likely a keyboard app coming that is like the Perkins Brailler keys, this is not worth learning. It is a 5 dollar app. Anyway, I gave it only 1 star, and I would like to know if anyone knows how one goes about getting a refund. Thanks. Glenn <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 05:53:43 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 00:53:43 -0500 Subject: iPhone not showing up in iTunes Message-ID: <005b01ccb249$153a70d0$3faf5270$@gmail.com> Maybe but have they check the connection to the computer and tried a different USB port? Have they tried using a different wire from the device to the computer? Have they tried this on another computer? I would do all this first before uninstalling iTunes then do that. JST Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gunn Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:59 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iPhone not showing up in itunes Hello: I've heard of this kind of issue on a tech podcast and the fix was to re-install iTunes. When installing you won't have to worry about loosing data. John On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hello Listers, > > If anyone has had this happen I'd appreciate tips on how to get iTunes to recognize the phone. > > The situation is that good friends of mine that often share iPhone tips and help are now having the following problem > > > They updated to Snow Leopard from Leopard. Now when they plug in their iPhone 4 to the computer iPhoto recognizes that a phone is there but in iTunes it does not show up. I had them restart their computers and restart their phones but it did not change the problem. > > Also we did google and looked on the Apple site but we didn't find a answer. in most cases the help areas just assumed that when you plug in the phone to the computer it will show up in devices. Nothing was mentioned about what to do if that doesn't happen! > > I've bragged about how helpful this list is so I'm pushing the limits here to see if I can help them. I owe them for mush Apple help and would love to give back. In fact when my Mac Book showed up new in the box it was these friends who helped with my first big problem. that was... Finding the darn start button. That thing can be really hard for a newbie to find! > > Eric Caron > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Dec 4 05:56:48 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 16:56:48 +1100 Subject: blue tooth head set Message-ID: <6F1BCF71-1252-4CEF-B466-0865D45480E6@bluebottle.com> hi all i broth a blue tooth head set from the apple store it works fine with my i phone but when on the mac it thinks voice over is music and stops it from being herd but on the i phone it lets voice over be heard what is going on there or is it just meant for iphone as it was under iphone in the apple app store it is fine when voice over is the only thing being played how ever when used with skype it will not let voice over be heard From gunn at tznet.com Sun Dec 4 06:58:46 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 00:58:46 -0600 Subject: iPhone not showing up in iTunes In-Reply-To: <005b01ccb249$153a70d0$3faf5270$@gmail.com> References: <005b01ccb249$153a70d0$3faf5270$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I never said uninstall iTunes, I said install, huge difference. On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:53 PM, Bubba wrote: > Maybe but have they check the connection to the computer and tried a > different USB port? Have they tried using a different wire from the device > to the computer? Have they tried this on another computer? I would do all > this first before uninstalling iTunes then do that. JST > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gunn > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:59 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: iPhone not showing up in itunes > > Hello: > > I've heard of this kind of issue on a tech podcast and the fix was to > re-install iTunes. > > When installing you won't have to worry about loosing data. > > John > > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Hello Listers, >> >> If anyone has had this happen I'd appreciate tips on how to get iTunes to > recognize the phone. >> >> The situation is that good friends of mine that often share iPhone tips > and help are now having the following problem >> >> >> They updated to Snow Leopard from Leopard. Now when they plug in their > iPhone 4 to the computer iPhoto recognizes that a phone is there but in > iTunes it does not show up. I had them restart their computers and restart > their phones but it did not change the problem. >> >> Also we did google and looked on the Apple site but we didn't find a > answer. in most cases the help areas just assumed that when you plug in the > phone to the computer it will show up in devices. Nothing was mentioned > about what to do if that doesn't happen! >> >> I've bragged about how helpful this list is so I'm pushing the limits > here to see if I can help them. I owe them for mush Apple help and would > love to give back. In fact when my Mac Book showed up new in the box it was > these friends who helped with my first big problem. that was... Finding the > darn start button. That thing can be really hard for a newbie to find! >> >> Eric Caron >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Dec 4 09:23:42 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane trethowan) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:23:42 +1100 Subject: A tip for the iPad Message-ID: <4EDB3C1E.50802@internode.on.net> Hi! This is a rather cruid way of having your iPad act as a talking clock but it does work. Find the status bar on the screen on your iPad and tap the clock on the bar, iPad will announce the time. Leave iPad and every time the clock changes - every minute - iPad will announce the time, your talking clock! -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. From godfearer at comcast.net Sun Dec 4 09:53:48 2011 From: godfearer at comcast.net (robert doc Wright) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 02:53:48 -0700 Subject: Skype help References: <8B4A5399-AD1D-4F8F-BF21-F1D778207437@swbell.net> Message-ID: also, to add if the person is calling while you are in a call, move to the live conversation, press space to select it then your application key then press 'i' to invite the caller. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:09 AM Subject: Re: Skype help > Hello. Hit add people and then search for or find the person you want int > he table and hit vo shift space on them. then hit ok. or you can control > click on the contact in your contact list and click invite to conference. > > Take care. > On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:57 AM, michael maslo wrote: > >> Can someone tell me how to add someone to a conversation or a conference >> call? >> >> I have one active call but can not figure out how to add someone to the >> next call or another person to the call. >> >> Anyone give me som guidance. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 10:21:23 2011 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:21:23 +1100 Subject: Opening PDF files as attachments in mail Message-ID: <000e01ccb26e$7b16a4d0$7143ee70$@com> Can someone please tell me how to open and read a PDF file which I was sent as an attachment in mail using lion. Margaret From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 10:25:29 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 05:25:29 -0500 Subject: iPhone not showing up in iTunes In-Reply-To: References: <005b01ccb249$153a70d0$3faf5270$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601ccb26f$0c7ca0f0$2575e2d0$@gmail.com> Well. you said reinstall iTunes and to reinstall it you would need to uninstall it. Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gunn Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:59 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iPhone not showing up in iTunes I never said uninstall iTunes, I said install, huge difference. On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:53 PM, Bubba wrote: > Maybe but have they check the connection to the computer and tried a > different USB port? Have they tried using a different wire from the > device to the computer? Have they tried this on another computer? I > would do all this first before uninstalling iTunes then do that. JST > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gunn > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:59 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: iPhone not showing up in itunes > > Hello: > > I've heard of this kind of issue on a tech podcast and the fix was to > re-install iTunes. > > When installing you won't have to worry about loosing data. > > John > > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Hello Listers, >> >> If anyone has had this happen I'd appreciate tips on how to get >> iTunes to > recognize the phone. >> >> The situation is that good friends of mine that often share iPhone >> tips > and help are now having the following problem >> >> >> They updated to Snow Leopard from Leopard. Now when they plug in >> their > iPhone 4 to the computer iPhoto recognizes that a phone is there but > in iTunes it does not show up. I had them restart their computers and > restart their phones but it did not change the problem. >> >> Also we did google and looked on the Apple site but we didn't find a > answer. in most cases the help areas just assumed that when you plug > in the phone to the computer it will show up in devices. Nothing was > mentioned about what to do if that doesn't happen! >> >> I've bragged about how helpful this list is so I'm pushing the limits > here to see if I can help them. I owe them for mush Apple help and > would love to give back. In fact when my Mac Book showed up new in > the box it was these friends who helped with my first big problem. > that was... Finding the darn start button. That thing can be really hard for a newbie to find! >> >> Eric Caron >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting > the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Dec 4 11:09:46 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 11:09:46 +0000 Subject: email attachments on the i-phone Message-ID: <4edb528e.6514b40a.02e7.ffffc090@mx.google.com> is there a way of retrieving attachments in emails on the i-phone 4? From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Dec 4 12:15:59 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:15:59 +0000 Subject: A tip for the iPad In-Reply-To: <4EDB3C1E.50802@internode.on.net> References: <4EDB3C1E.50802@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4EDB647F.4010808@techno-chat.net> Thanks for the tip. I think this works for iPod Touch and iPhone as well. On 04/12/2011 09:23, Dane trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > This is a rather cruid way of having your iPad act as a talking clock > but it does work. > > Find the status bar on the screen on your iPad and tap the clock on the > bar, iPad will announce the time. > > Leave iPad and every time the clock changes - every minute - iPad will > announce the time, your talking clock! > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Dec 4 12:51:44 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 12:51:44 +0000 Subject: Click to Flash on Lion Message-ID: <3130B4A3-2A7F-48D6-A377-AF3636439634@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, Has anyone had success using the Lion version of Click to Flash which you can download via the Safari extensions item in the Safari menu. I have installed it and it has a comprehensive menu of preferences most of which I do not understand. I am hoping it will allow me to play flash audio content using Safari. I think this all used to work with Click to flash on Snow Leopard. Many thanks for any tips in this area. Paul Hopewell From gunn at tznet.com Sun Dec 4 13:41:07 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 07:41:07 -0600 Subject: iPhone not showing up in iTunes In-Reply-To: <000601ccb26f$0c7ca0f0$2575e2d0$@gmail.com> References: <005b01ccb249$153a70d0$3faf5270$@gmail.com> <000601ccb26f$0c7ca0f0$2575e2d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5A463704-646E-44C0-B041-AF336EFFBFFE@tznet.com> You don't have to uninstall. Just install from the full .dmg but then you are probably using Windows but the same still holds true. On Dec 4, 2011, at 4:25 AM, Bubba wrote: > Well. you said reinstall iTunes and to reinstall it you would need to > uninstall it. > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gunn > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:59 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: iPhone not showing up in iTunes > > I never said uninstall iTunes, I said install, huge difference. > > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:53 PM, Bubba wrote: > >> Maybe but have they check the connection to the computer and tried a >> different USB port? Have they tried using a different wire from the >> device to the computer? Have they tried this on another computer? I >> would do all this first before uninstalling iTunes then do that. JST >> >> >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gunn >> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:59 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: iPhone not showing up in itunes >> >> Hello: >> >> I've heard of this kind of issue on a tech podcast and the fix was to >> re-install iTunes. >> >> When installing you won't have to worry about loosing data. >> >> John >> >> >> On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >>> Hello Listers, >>> >>> If anyone has had this happen I'd appreciate tips on how to get >>> iTunes to >> recognize the phone. >>> >>> The situation is that good friends of mine that often share iPhone >>> tips >> and help are now having the following problem >>> >>> >>> They updated to Snow Leopard from Leopard. Now when they plug in >>> their >> iPhone 4 to the computer iPhoto recognizes that a phone is there but >> in iTunes it does not show up. I had them restart their computers and >> restart their phones but it did not change the problem. >>> >>> Also we did google and looked on the Apple site but we didn't find a >> answer. in most cases the help areas just assumed that when you plug >> in the phone to the computer it will show up in devices. Nothing was >> mentioned about what to do if that doesn't happen! >>> >>> I've bragged about how helpful this list is so I'm pushing the limits >> here to see if I can help them. I owe them for mush Apple help and >> would love to give back. In fact when my Mac Book showed up new in >> the box it was these friends who helped with my first big problem. >> that was... Finding the darn start button. That thing can be really hard > for a newbie to find! >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >> the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From desiandcandy at q.com Sun Dec 4 14:55:44 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 07:55:44 -0700 Subject: Bad-Elf Message-ID: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> Hi Everyone, Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod Touch? It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the most accessible with VoiceOver. I had originally thought I would use Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, and I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work! Any help with this would be most appreciated! The Bad-Elf web site has a list of Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed since Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use. Desi From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 14:59:10 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 08:59:10 -0600 Subject: recovery partions Message-ID: <4D241214B2A241C7915C04E11A39E366@joseph1> for some reason, my install of lino doesn't have a recovery partition. i had to reinstall it about a month ago.. any reason why it wouldn't have one of those? From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Dec 4 15:26:41 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 10:26:41 -0500 Subject: iPhone not showing up in itunes In-Reply-To: <9513A940-D689-417B-91D2-88768B903525@tznet.com> References: <5EEC1E75-319E-4906-9B1C-1C016BE5A679@Mac-Access.net> <9513A940-D689-417B-91D2-88768B903525@tznet.com> Message-ID: Hi John, My friends have two macs and two iPhones and having the same problem on both systems. I've pretty much ruled out it being a cable issue as iPhoto works. Also strange that this was first noticed right after updating to Snow Leopard. Both were running Leopard until recently. As they are all ready running the latest iTunes where do I send them to re instal iTunes again? I've never reinstalled iTunes before just updated. These tips are greatly appreciated. Eric Caron On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:59 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Hello: > > I've heard of this kind of issue on a tech podcast and the fix was to re-install iTunes. > > When installing you won't have to worry about loosing data. > > John > > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Hello Listers, >> >> If anyone has had this happen I'd appreciate tips on how to get iTunes to recognize the phone. >> >> The situation is that good friends of mine that often share iPhone tips and help are now having the following problem >> >> >> They updated to Snow Leopard from Leopard. Now when they plug in their iPhone 4 to the computer iPhoto recognizes that a phone is there but in iTunes it does not show up. I had them restart their computers and restart their phones but it did not change the problem. >> >> Also we did google and looked on the Apple site but we didn't find a answer. in most cases the help areas just assumed that when you plug in the phone to the computer it will show up in devices. Nothing was mentioned about what to do if that doesn't happen! >> >> I've bragged about how helpful this list is so I'm pushing the limits here to see if I can help them. I owe them for mush Apple help and would love to give back. In fact when my Mac Book showed up new in the box it was these friends who helped with my first big problem. that was... Finding the darn start button. That thing can be really hard for a newbie to find! >> >> Eric Caron >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Sun Dec 4 16:04:41 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 17:04:41 +0100 Subject: RTF version of IOS5 VoiceOver Manual? Message-ID: Hello everyone, I have been asked to translate a rather lengthy article about the iPhone and VoiceOver from German into English. Though I am looking forward to translating the article, I was wondering if there was an RTF version of the IOS5 VoiceOver manual that I could output to a Braille display. I want to be sure that I get all of the terminology correct, both in terms of accuracy as well as spelling. A very simple example might be: "double tap" or "double tap." Thanks in advance, Mike From hannahday2009 at googlemail.com Sun Dec 4 16:51:15 2011 From: hannahday2009 at googlemail.com (hannah day) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 16:51:15 +0000 Subject: how do i report a ap to a diveloper? Message-ID: <4EDBA503.1060801@googlemail.com> Hi all I've just installed a game called smack me which is like bop it but the thing is it crashes after five goes which it is a shame as the game is great Does anyone know how i can report this? chat soon hannah -- Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2009 at googlemail.com MSN hannahday1989 at hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannahday -- Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2009 at googlemail.com MSN hannahday1989 at hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannahday From gunn at tznet.com Sun Dec 4 18:33:00 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 12:33:00 -0600 Subject: iPhone not showing up in itunes In-Reply-To: References: <5EEC1E75-319E-4906-9B1C-1C016BE5A679@Mac-Access.net> <9513A940-D689-417B-91D2-88768B903525@tznet.com> Message-ID: <20ADF218-0520-4968-96C8-D86EA1E5C124@tznet.com> I think if you go to itunes.apple.com you can download the latest. I also believe you have a choice of Lion or Snow Leopard but don't quote me on that. I also agree with you not cables ETC. Let me know how it goes. Take care, John Hello Eric, On Dec 4, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi John, > > My friends have two macs and two iPhones and having the same problem on both systems. I've pretty much ruled out it being a cable issue as iPhoto works. > Also strange that this was first noticed right after updating to Snow Leopard. Both were running Leopard until recently. > > As they are all ready running the latest iTunes where do I send them to re instal iTunes again? I've never reinstalled iTunes before just updated. > > These tips are greatly appreciated. > > Eric Caron > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:59 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> I've heard of this kind of issue on a tech podcast and the fix was to re-install iTunes. >> >> When installing you won't have to worry about loosing data. >> >> John >> >> >> On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >>> Hello Listers, >>> >>> If anyone has had this happen I'd appreciate tips on how to get iTunes to recognize the phone. >>> >>> The situation is that good friends of mine that often share iPhone tips and help are now having the following problem >>> >>> >>> They updated to Snow Leopard from Leopard. Now when they plug in their iPhone 4 to the computer iPhoto recognizes that a phone is there but in iTunes it does not show up. I had them restart their computers and restart their phones but it did not change the problem. >>> >>> Also we did google and looked on the Apple site but we didn't find a answer. in most cases the help areas just assumed that when you plug in the phone to the computer it will show up in devices. Nothing was mentioned about what to do if that doesn't happen! >>> >>> I've bragged about how helpful this list is so I'm pushing the limits here to see if I can help them. I owe them for mush Apple help and would love to give back. In fact when my Mac Book showed up new in the box it was these friends who helped with my first big problem. that was... Finding the darn start button. That thing can be really hard for a newbie to find! >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From moriond at mac.com Sun Dec 4 19:33:33 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 09:33:33 -1000 Subject: iPhone not showing up in itunes In-Reply-To: References: <5EEC1E75-319E-4906-9B1C-1C016BE5A679@Mac-Access.net> <9513A940-D689-417B-91D2-88768B903525@tznet.com> Message-ID: <0C21A228-CF03-4646-98EE-E95D089698DA@mac.com> Hello Eric, A Google search turned up two reference sources that might help with the problem of recognizing iOS devices after a system upgrade. 1. The first instance involves applying a software update for the SDK (Software Development Kit). I found references in some instances where this update was apparently not seen from a user's account after applying all software updates. One user reported that Apple tech support had him create another account with Admin privileges on his machine, restart the computer, log in to the new account and start iTunes with the iPhone plugged in. At that point, although the iPhone was still not recognized, the user received a prompt for a iPhone SDK compatibility software update. He installed the update, restarted his computer, and logged into iTunes under his usual account. When the SDK compatibility update was found and applied, everything worked. Another user claimed there was no need to create a new account with Admin privileges or log into another account -- he simply found the SDK compatibility update download (presumably from the Apple Software download site, and applied it. These comments appeared in the Apple Support forums last year -- around the time of the 10.6.3 release of Snow Leopard. (Note: I always keep at least one and usually two additional accounts on my laptop in addition to my main user account, even though I am the only user. This allows me to check whether issues that arise are due to my local setups or problems with the way my application preferences are set, as opposed to problems with the operating system or programs themselves. It also means that I can still log into my Mac in the event of problems with my account without resorting to recovery discs or partitions.) This may also be solved by reinstalling the Apple Mobile Device Service, which applies only to systems running Mac OS X v10.6.8 and earlier -- that is, any OS earlier than the latest version of Snow Leopard. 2. The second instance is specific to upgrading to Snow Leopard, and applies to iOS devices not being recognized after a restart. In some instances where iTunes is reinstalled, the device may be initially recognized, but not recognized on subsequent restarts of your machine. These instructions involve deleting a preference file from the main /System/Library/LaunchDaemons folder. There is a second set of steps if, after restarting your Mac, the issue still remains. This involves deleting the "AppleMobileDevice.kext" file from your /System/Library/Extensions folder, and also deleting the "MobileDevice.framework" folder from your /System/Library/LaunchDaemons folder. You then need to delete the "com.apple.usbmuxd.plist-orig" file again, restart your Mac, and download iTunes and reinstall it. I'll give you the direct links to the Apple Knowledge Base articles ? iOS: Device not recognized in iTunes for Mac OS X http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1591 This is the general troubleshooting document that has a link to the iPhone Trouble Shooting Assistant. It goes through the regular steps of making sure you apply the latest software updates, check USB connections, etc. Then, if these steps fail to work it also suggests you reinstall the Apple Mobile Device Service (for systems running Snow Leopard or earlier) ? iTunes: How to remove and reinstall the Apple Mobile Device Service on Mac OS X 10.6.8 or Earlier http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1747 This is the detailed set of instructions for reinstalling the Apple Mobile Device Service ? Mac OS X v10.6: iOS device not recognized in iTunes after restart http://support.apple.com/kb/ts3540 This article describes additional fixes that are Snow Leopard specific. The other documents apply to general instances where your Mac loses the ability to identify the iPhone in iTunes (but not necessarily in other apps). HTH. The Apple Support documents all give step by step instructions. I've tried to summarize the nature of the fixes in the body of my post. Cheers, Esther On Dec 4, 2011, at 05:26, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi John, > > My friends have two macs and two iPhones and having the same problem on both systems. I've pretty much ruled out it being a cable issue as iPhoto works. > Also strange that this was first noticed right after updating to Snow Leopard. Both were running Leopard until recently. > > As they are all ready running the latest iTunes where do I send them to re instal iTunes again? I've never reinstalled iTunes before just updated. > > These tips are greatly appreciated. > > Eric Caron > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:59 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> I've heard of this kind of issue on a tech podcast and the fix was to re-install iTunes. >> >> When installing you won't have to worry about loosing data. >> >> John >> From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 19:47:38 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 11:47:38 -0800 Subject: how do i report a ap to a diveloper? In-Reply-To: <4EDBA503.1060801@googlemail.com> References: <4EDBA503.1060801@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <803D10E0-1B13-48B3-AFA5-7350D4CB5896@gmail.com> to to the support page of that app. this can be found on the iTunes app store page where the game is. It will be called support link. with the dev's name in it. Click that and from there you're on your own as each sight is different. You'd better hope there is no captcha on the page. Good luck. On Dec 4, 2011, at 8:51 AM, hannah day wrote: > Hi all > > I've just installed a game called smack me which is like bop it but the thing is it crashes after five goes which it is a shame as the game is great > > Does anyone know how i can report this? > > chat soon hannah > -- > > Hannah Day > E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2009 at googlemail.com > MSN hannahday1989 at hotmail.co.uk > Skype: hannahday > > -- > > Hannah Day > E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2009 at googlemail.com > MSN hannahday1989 at hotmail.co.uk > Skype: hannahday > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 19:49:37 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 11:49:37 -0800 Subject: recovery partition In-Reply-To: <4D241214B2A241C7915C04E11A39E366@joseph1> References: <4D241214B2A241C7915C04E11A39E366@joseph1> Message-ID: If you installed it let's say from a CCC back up you will not have a partition unless you install to an external do one more restore but I forgot how to do that. I think I did it from my dvd I have of lion. I installed on my CCC drive, moved it over to my mac drive, slipped in my dvd and restored lion on to my internal drive and now have my partition back. On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:59 AM, joe quinn wrote: > for some reason, my install of lino doesn't have a recovery partition. i had to reinstall it about a month ago.. any reason why it wouldn't have one of those? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 19:50:28 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 11:50:28 -0800 Subject: Bad-Elf In-Reply-To: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> References: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> Message-ID: Navigon is accessibil. You just have to work around some issues. It take ssome getting used to and I use it every day for my travels. Take care. On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Desi Noller wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod Touch? It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the most accessible with VoiceOver. I had originally thought I would use Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, and I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work! Any help with this would be most appreciated! The Bad-Elf web site has a list of Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed since Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use. > > Desi > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 19:51:14 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 11:51:14 -0800 Subject: Bad-Elf In-Reply-To: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> References: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> Message-ID: <063986D2-51BF-4856-8A9D-CDD2F91837C3@gmail.com> to follow up if waze is up there try that as it's free and has voice guidance. I'm not good at using that app but it is in my tool belt so to speak. Good luck. On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Desi Noller wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod Touch? It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the most accessible with VoiceOver. I had originally thought I would use Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, and I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work! Any help with this would be most appreciated! The Bad-Elf web site has a list of Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed since Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use. > > Desi > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 19:52:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 11:52:08 -0800 Subject: email attachments on the i-phone In-Reply-To: <4edb528e.6514b40a.02e7.ffffc090@mx.google.com> References: <4edb528e.6514b40a.02e7.ffffc090@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Just double tap the attachment, wait for it to download and open it with the app you use to open that kind of file. Take care. On Dec 4, 2011, at 3:09 AM, michael weaver wrote: > is there a way of retrieving attachments in emails on the i-phone 4? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 19:53:11 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 11:53:11 -0800 Subject: Skype help In-Reply-To: References: <8B4A5399-AD1D-4F8F-BF21-F1D778207437@swbell.net> Message-ID: Actually that doesn't work in skype 5 for mac. you have to go to the call you're in, go to add, choose the person, vo shift space and hit ok. I did this for a conference last night. On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:53 AM, robert doc Wright wrote: > also, to add if the person is calling while you are in a call, move to the live conversation, press space to select it then your application key then press 'i' to invite the caller. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:09 AM > Subject: Re: Skype help > > >> Hello. Hit add people and then search for or find the person you want int he table and hit vo shift space on them. then hit ok. or you can control click on the contact in your contact list and click invite to conference. >> >> Take care. >> On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:57 AM, michael maslo wrote: >> >>> Can someone tell me how to add someone to a conversation or a conference call? >>> >>> I have one active call but can not figure out how to add someone to the next call or another person to the call. >>> >>> Anyone give me som guidance. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 19:53:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 11:53:57 -0800 Subject: A tip for the iPad In-Reply-To: <4EDB3C1E.50802@internode.on.net> References: <4EDB3C1E.50802@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <630DB99A-D6C1-4795-A311-38A73BE8475B@gmail.com> That also works on iPhone as well. I've used it for when I have to do something for 1 minute exactly. On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Dane trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > This is a rather cruid way of having your iPad act as a talking clock but it does work. > > Find the status bar on the screen on your iPad and tap the clock on the bar, iPad will announce the time. > > Leave iPad and every time the clock changes - every minute - iPad will announce the time, your talking clock! > > > -- > sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From desiandcandy at q.com Sun Dec 4 19:58:29 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 12:58:29 -0700 Subject: Bad-Elf In-Reply-To: References: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah, Are you updated to the latest version of Navigon? That's the one I heard people were having problems with. Desi On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Navigon is accessibil. You just have to work around some issues. It take ssome getting used to and I use it every day for my travels. > > Take care. > On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Desi Noller wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod Touch? It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the most accessible with VoiceOver. I had originally thought I would use Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, and I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work! Any help with this would be most appreciated! The Bad-Elf web site has a list of Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed since Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use. >> >> Desi >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 20:18:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 12:18:12 -0800 Subject: Bad-Elf In-Reply-To: References: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> Message-ID: <85665621-2EC3-4969-BAE0-CB1E8569E57E@gmail.com> I am, and i use it. I hear they are aware of the vo sluggishness but all in all it is quite usable. If you double tap the speed limit thing you get the options and stuff while you are navigating. but I would try waze if it is on that list of apps. Take care. On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Desi Noller wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Are you updated to the latest version of Navigon? That's the one I heard people were having problems with. > > Desi > > > On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Navigon is accessibil. You just have to work around some issues. It take ssome getting used to and I use it every day for my travels. >> >> Take care. >> On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Desi Noller wrote: >> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod Touch? It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the most accessible with VoiceOver. I had originally thought I would use Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, and I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work! Any help with this would be most appreciated! The Bad-Elf web site has a list of Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed since Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use. >>> >>> Desi >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From Mattchao at verizon.net Sun Dec 4 20:35:45 2011 From: Mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 15:35:45 -0500 Subject: VO Doesn't Speak at Startup Message-ID: <16CBC305-8098-4B75-B105-FA127EBF4A17@verizon.net> Hi, Folks. My MacBook Pro no longer gives me the VO welcome message when I turn it on. It used to do this. How do I get the VO welcome message back? Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao From Mattchao at verizon.net Sun Dec 4 20:46:51 2011 From: Mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 15:46:51 -0500 Subject: Knowing Status of VO Message-ID: <79B27324-95D7-475C-B4B7-547117F843E4@verizon.net> Hi, Again, Folks. How do I check VO's status, e.g., vo is keyboard focused, mouse, etc.? Thanks again for your help. Matthew Chao From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 20:51:34 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 12:51:34 -0800 Subject: Knowing Status of VO In-Reply-To: <79B27324-95D7-475C-B4B7-547117F843E4@verizon.net> References: <79B27324-95D7-475C-B4B7-547117F843E4@verizon.net> Message-ID: <850042F1-6450-4AE6-BBB2-ACE3E4C87728@gmail.com> If you hit vo k you will get a bunch of keyboard help. I do this when I'm stuck. I think it's vo f4 for keyboard and vo f5 for mouse. but you can verify that with the key help. Take care. On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Again, Folks. How do I check VO's status, e.g., vo is keyboard focused, mouse, etc.? Thanks again for your help. > > Matthew Chao > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 20:53:23 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 12:53:23 -0800 Subject: VO Doesn't Speak at Startup In-Reply-To: <16CBC305-8098-4B75-B105-FA127EBF4A17@verizon.net> References: <16CBC305-8098-4B75-B105-FA127EBF4A17@verizon.net> Message-ID: Actually mine doesn't either. It starts but it does not say what I have it to say which in my case was, "welcome to mac os 10, you are now asimulated, resistence is futile." No really. that is what i turned it in to lol! I do have the check box check under the speach tab under vo utility. Take care all On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks. My MacBook Pro no longer gives me the VO welcome message when I turn it on. It used to do this. How do I get the VO welcome message back? Thanks in advance. > > Matthew Chao > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sun Dec 4 20:56:36 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 10:56:36 -1000 Subject: RTF version of IOS5 VoiceOver Manual? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8E960EF2-C980-4AF5-8097-AB41E3D137EF@mac.com> Hi Mike, John Panarese's MacForTheBlind web site's documentation page has RTF versions of these manuals. Just go to: http://macfortheblind.com/documentation (Type in the four words "Mac for the blind" as all lower case, without spaces, and add the ".com" extenstion, then type a slash and append the word "documentation".) However, I think that an easier way to check the English and German equivalents for terms in the iOS 5 VoiceOver User's Guide is to use the accessible HTML version for the iPhone OS 5 in English and in German. The same sections only differ by using "en" (for English) instead of "de" (for German) in the URL address. So, for example, the English version of the iPhone OS 5 user guide is: http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/ while the German version uses the same address with "de" substituted for "en": http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/de/ This also works for individual sections. The section on "Accessibility" of the User Guide for the iPhone is: http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph3e2e2c13.html The same section on "Bedienungshilfen" in the German version of the User Guide can be found by replacing the "en" in the previous address with "de": Using this substitution I can find an example of how double tapping to unlock the iPhone screen is translated, even though I don't speak German, just by finding the corresponding text to the section of the VoiceOver User Guide in English and in German. For example, under the section of "Using VoiceOver" is the description: Unlock iPhone Select the Unlock button, then double-tap the screen. On the same page of the German version of the User Guide, "Verwenden von VoiceOver", is the description: Entsperren des iPhone W?hlen Sie den Schalter ?Entsperren? aus und heben Sie die Sperre durch Doppeltippen auf den Bildschirm auf. The two different translations are on the pages: http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph3e2e2329.html and for the German: http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/de/iph3e2e2329.html I keep a TextEdit window open to paste in the URLs and to change "en" to "de", and then to find the corresponding text on each page to copy. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 4, 2011, at 06:04, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have been asked to translate a rather lengthy article about the iPhone and VoiceOver from German into English. Though I am looking forward to translating the article, I was wondering if there was an RTF version of the IOS5 VoiceOver manual that I could output to a Braille display. I want to be sure that I get all of the terminology correct, both in terms of accuracy as well as spelling. A very simple example might be: "double tap" or "double tap." > > Thanks in advance, > > Mike From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 4 21:18:41 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:18:41 +0000 Subject: VO Doesn't Speak at Startup In-Reply-To: <16CBC305-8098-4B75-B105-FA127EBF4A17@verizon.net> References: <16CBC305-8098-4B75-B105-FA127EBF4A17@verizon.net> Message-ID: go to voiceover utility (VO-F8) then in the general pane, it should say, display voiceover welcome. ensure it's checked. then close voiceover utility. test it by logging out and then back in again. lew On 4 Dec 2011, at 20:35, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks. My MacBook Pro no longer gives me the VO welcome message when I turn it on. It used to do this. How do I get the VO welcome message back? Thanks in advance. > > Matthew Chao > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From terrycooper10 at hotmail.com Sun Dec 4 21:20:02 2011 From: terrycooper10 at hotmail.com (Terry Cooper) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:20:02 +0000 Subject: iPhone not showing up in itunes In-Reply-To: <0C21A228-CF03-4646-98EE-E95D089698DA@mac.com> References: <5EEC1E75-319E-4906-9B1C-1C016BE5A679@Mac-Access.net><9513A940-D689-417B-91D2-88768B903525@tznet.com> <0C21A228-CF03-4646-98EE-E95D089698DA@mac.com> Message-ID: Esther You are amazing with your detailed reply's to peoples queries. Well done to you for helping others. Terry 7 -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: 04 December 2011 19:34 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iPhone not showing up in itunes Hello Eric, A Google search turned up two reference sources that might help with the problem of recognizing iOS devices after a system upgrade. 1. The first instance involves applying a software update for the SDK (Software Development Kit). I found references in some instances where this update was apparently not seen from a user's account after applying all software updates. One user reported that Apple tech support had him create another account with Admin privileges on his machine, restart the computer, log in to the new account and start iTunes with the iPhone plugged in. At that point, although the iPhone was still not recognized, the user received a prompt for a iPhone SDK compatibility software update. He installed the update, restarted his computer, and logged into iTunes under his usual account. When the SDK compatibility update was found and applied, everything worked. Another user claimed there was no need to create a new account with Admin privileges or log into another account -- he simply found the SDK compatibility update download (presumably from the Apple Software download site, and applied it. These comments appeared in the Apple Support forums last year -- around the time of the 10.6.3 release of Snow Leopard. (Note: I always keep at least one and usually two additional accounts on my laptop in addition to my main user account, even though I am the only user. This allows me to check whether issues that arise are due to my local setups or problems with the way my application preferences are set, as opposed to problems with the operating system or programs themselves. It also means that I can still log into my Mac in the event of problems with my account without resorting to recovery discs or partitions.) This may also be solved by reinstalling the Apple Mobile Device Service, which applies only to systems running Mac OS X v10.6.8 and earlier -- that is, any OS earlier than the latest version of Snow Leopard. 2. The second instance is specific to upgrading to Snow Leopard, and applies to iOS devices not being recognized after a restart. In some instances where iTunes is reinstalled, the device may be initially recognized, but not recognized on subsequent restarts of your machine. These instructions involve deleting a preference file from the main /System/Library/LaunchDaemons folder. There is a second set of steps if, after restarting your Mac, the issue still remains. This involves deleting the "AppleMobileDevice.kext" file from your /System/Library/Extensions folder, and also deleting the "MobileDevice.framework" folder from your /System/Library/LaunchDaemons folder. You then need to delete the "com.apple.usbmuxd.plist-orig" file again, restart your Mac, and download iTunes and reinstall it. I'll give you the direct links to the Apple Knowledge Base articles . iOS: Device not recognized in iTunes for Mac OS X http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1591 This is the general troubleshooting document that has a link to the iPhone Trouble Shooting Assistant. It goes through the regular steps of making sure you apply the latest software updates, check USB connections, etc. Then, if these steps fail to work it also suggests you reinstall the Apple Mobile Device Service (for systems running Snow Leopard or earlier) . iTunes: How to remove and reinstall the Apple Mobile Device Service on Mac OS X 10.6.8 or Earlier http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1747 This is the detailed set of instructions for reinstalling the Apple Mobile Device Service . Mac OS X v10.6: iOS device not recognized in iTunes after restart http://support.apple.com/kb/ts3540 This article describes additional fixes that are Snow Leopard specific. The other documents apply to general instances where your Mac loses the ability to identify the iPhone in iTunes (but not necessarily in other apps). HTH. The Apple Support documents all give step by step instructions. I've tried to summarize the nature of the fixes in the body of my post. Cheers, Esther On Dec 4, 2011, at 05:26, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi John, > > My friends have two macs and two iPhones and having the same problem on both systems. I've pretty much ruled out it being a cable issue as iPhoto works. > Also strange that this was first noticed right after updating to Snow Leopard. Both were running Leopard until recently. > > As they are all ready running the latest iTunes where do I send them to re instal iTunes again? I've never reinstalled iTunes before just updated. > > These tips are greatly appreciated. > > Eric Caron > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:59 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> I've heard of this kind of issue on a tech podcast and the fix was to re-install iTunes. >> >> When installing you won't have to worry about loosing data. >> >> John >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 21:30:37 2011 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:30:37 -0000 Subject: HD dimmed Message-ID: Hi all, After installing some software and returning to desktop, MacbookHD is dimmed and I seem unable to access it. In some instances a reboot resolves this and in others it doesn't unless I leave it for somewhere between 24 and 48 hours. Does anyone know why the prolonged wait and better still, how do I prevent it happening. Thanks Roger From mfurness at bell.net Sun Dec 4 21:35:15 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 16:35:15 -0500 Subject: VO Doesn't Speak at Startup In-Reply-To: References: <16CBC305-8098-4B75-B105-FA127EBF4A17@verizon.net> Message-ID: I have done this, and it still does not speak my message. Mark On 2011-12-04, at 4:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > go to voiceover utility (VO-F8) then in the general pane, it should say, display voiceover welcome. ensure it's checked. then close voiceover utility. test it by logging out and then back in again. > > lew > > On 4 Dec 2011, at 20:35, Matthew Chao wrote: > >> Hi, Folks. My MacBook Pro no longer gives me the VO welcome message when I turn it on. It used to do this. How do I get the VO welcome message back? Thanks in advance. >> >> Matthew Chao >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 21:36:09 2011 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:36:09 -0000 Subject: Java on Lion Message-ID: <5E57F496B4BE4B81934CFE9218981B72@SamsungNC10> Hi all, I've recently been posting but possibly due to settings with my account, the emails have not been getting through or I have not been receiving answering emails. Gordon and Lynne are resolving or have resolved the issue with the account. Anyway, I managed to find out how to resolve the following issue and here is the solution. I could not install either Sodbeans or Netbeans IDEs to write java applications. The problem was that at disc selection during installation, the continue button remained dimmed despite all efforts. To resolve, first open Terminal then write java and press enter. The mac will do the rest, once finished installation of both was straightforward. The cash handed to Apple which was rapidly snapped up did not help when I called Apple as they could not help as java is not an Apple application. So not impressed with them. Regards and hope this helps someone else. Roger From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 4 21:39:11 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:39:11 +0000 Subject: HD dimmed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: yes. your hard drive has either been locked or is dying. symptoms of this include applications struggling to load, strange sounds which you haven't heard before. irratic booting, etc. this is a dead hard disk. please could you drop me an email off list with details of your machine, if you have apple care cover, etc and I can walk you through various test steps, etc to identify a dead drive. from what you have described, your drive has failed. Hard drives have a shelf life, because of their rotational speed, heat, data read and write processes, drives fail. When they do, you know about it. I've been there only yesterday with an SCSI drive which failed, had to disassemble it, clean, respin and reassemble it to bring it back to life to back up the contents to install on a nwer drive. lew On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:30, Roger Woolgrove wrote: > Hi all, > > After installing some software and returning to desktop, MacbookHD is dimmed and I seem unable to access it. In some instances a reboot resolves this and in others it doesn't unless I leave it for somewhere between 24 and 48 hours. > Does anyone know why the prolonged wait and better still, how do I prevent it happening. > > Thanks > > Roger > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 4 21:39:57 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:39:57 +0000 Subject: VO Doesn't Speak at Startup In-Reply-To: References: <16CBC305-8098-4B75-B105-FA127EBF4A17@verizon.net> Message-ID: <92D17E9D-8593-43B8-A978-5E877E224E43@mac-access.net> hmmmm is there any text in the edit field in the voiceover prefs? lew On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:35, Mark Furness wrote: > I have done this, and it still does not speak my message. > > Mark > On 2011-12-04, at 4:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> go to voiceover utility (VO-F8) then in the general pane, it should say, display voiceover welcome. ensure it's checked. then close voiceover utility. test it by logging out and then back in again. >> >> lew >> >> On 4 Dec 2011, at 20:35, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >>> Hi, Folks. My MacBook Pro no longer gives me the VO welcome message when I turn it on. It used to do this. How do I get the VO welcome message back? Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Matthew Chao >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 22:01:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 14:01:08 -0800 Subject: VO Doesn't Speak at Startup In-Reply-To: <92D17E9D-8593-43B8-A978-5E877E224E43@mac-access.net> References: <16CBC305-8098-4B75-B105-FA127EBF4A17@verizon.net> <92D17E9D-8593-43B8-A978-5E877E224E43@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0C8F91A1-819C-484B-A577-3D2EAD35FCE8@gmail.com> yeah in my case there is. it's that odd saying that I quoted. Don't ask.. lol! I also don't hear it. I wonder if it just goes by too quickly for us to hear. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > hmmmm > > is there any text in the edit field in the voiceover prefs? > > lew > > On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:35, Mark Furness wrote: > >> I have done this, and it still does not speak my message. >> >> Mark >> On 2011-12-04, at 4:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >> >>> go to voiceover utility (VO-F8) then in the general pane, it should say, display voiceover welcome. ensure it's checked. then close voiceover utility. test it by logging out and then back in again. >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 20:35, Matthew Chao wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Folks. My MacBook Pro no longer gives me the VO welcome message when I turn it on. It used to do this. How do I get the VO welcome message back? Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> Matthew Chao >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>> >>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >>> >>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >>> >>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>> http://www.mac-access.net >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 4 22:03:11 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 22:03:11 +0000 Subject: VO Doesn't Speak at Startup In-Reply-To: <0C8F91A1-819C-484B-A577-3D2EAD35FCE8@gmail.com> References: <16CBC305-8098-4B75-B105-FA127EBF4A17@verizon.net> <92D17E9D-8593-43B8-A978-5E877E224E43@mac-access.net> <0C8F91A1-819C-484B-A577-3D2EAD35FCE8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0A57DE75-D7DE-4147-960B-9569F2CEEEE4@mac-access.net> sometimes, voiceover bypasses the announcement. I choose to disable it so that it doesn't interupt any possible errors that might occur, as well as quick access to data I need. so less tax on my brain lol. lew On 4 Dec 2011, at 22:01, Sarah Alawami wrote: > yeah in my case there is. it's that odd saying that I quoted. Don't ask.. lol! I also don't hear it. I wonder if it just goes by too quickly for us to hear. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> hmmmm >> >> is there any text in the edit field in the voiceover prefs? >> >> lew >> >> On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:35, Mark Furness wrote: >> >>> I have done this, and it still does not speak my message. >>> >>> Mark >>> On 2011-12-04, at 4:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >>> >>>> go to voiceover utility (VO-F8) then in the general pane, it should say, display voiceover welcome. ensure it's checked. then close voiceover utility. test it by logging out and then back in again. >>>> >>>> lew >>>> >>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 20:35, Matthew Chao wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Folks. My MacBook Pro no longer gives me the VO welcome message when I turn it on. It used to do this. How do I get the VO welcome message back? Thanks in advance. >>>>> >>>>> Matthew Chao >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >>>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>>> >>>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >>>> >>>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >>>> >>>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>>> http://www.mac-access.net >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 22:05:46 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 14:05:46 -0800 Subject: VO Doesn't Speak at Startup In-Reply-To: <0A57DE75-D7DE-4147-960B-9569F2CEEEE4@mac-access.net> References: <16CBC305-8098-4B75-B105-FA127EBF4A17@verizon.net> <92D17E9D-8593-43B8-A978-5E877E224E43@mac-access.net> <0C8F91A1-819C-484B-A577-3D2EAD35FCE8@gmail.com> <0A57DE75-D7DE-4147-960B-9569F2CEEEE4@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4B8F08E1-75EF-4AC8-B2FD-E6B9B51DF5ED@gmail.com> Cool deal. To each his or her own.. Since vo is not reading it anyway I'll probably jus tleave the text there and disable it lol! On Dec 4, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > sometimes, voiceover bypasses the announcement. I choose to disable it so that it doesn't interupt any possible errors that might occur, as well as quick access to data I need. so less tax on my brain lol. > > lew > > On 4 Dec 2011, at 22:01, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> yeah in my case there is. it's that odd saying that I quoted. Don't ask.. lol! I also don't hear it. I wonder if it just goes by too quickly for us to hear. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >> If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >> >>> hmmmm >>> >>> is there any text in the edit field in the voiceover prefs? >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:35, Mark Furness wrote: >>> >>>> I have done this, and it still does not speak my message. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> On 2011-12-04, at 4:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >>>> >>>>> go to voiceover utility (VO-F8) then in the general pane, it should say, display voiceover welcome. ensure it's checked. then close voiceover utility. test it by logging out and then back in again. >>>>> >>>>> lew >>>>> >>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 20:35, Matthew Chao wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Folks. My MacBook Pro no longer gives me the VO welcome message when I turn it on. It used to do this. How do I get the VO welcome message back? Thanks in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Matthew Chao >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>>>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>>>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >>>>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>>>> >>>>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >>>>> >>>>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >>>>> >>>>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>>>> http://www.mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>> >>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >>> >>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >>> >>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>> http://www.mac-access.net >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 22:07:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 14:07:50 -0800 Subject: Java on Lion In-Reply-To: <5E57F496B4BE4B81934CFE9218981B72@SamsungNC10> References: <5E57F496B4BE4B81934CFE9218981B72@SamsungNC10> Message-ID: Well not surprised. they can'g memorize or take note of every single application so I would have done the same. If I did not make the app I will not and cannot give support as I don't know the ins and outs of somebody else's code work. Take care and glad you got it solved. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Roger Woolgrove wrote: > Hi all, > > I've recently been posting but possibly due to settings with my account, the emails have not been getting through or I have not been receiving answering emails. Gordon and Lynne are resolving or have resolved the issue with the account. > Anyway, I managed to find out how to resolve the following issue and here is the solution. > I could not install either Sodbeans or Netbeans IDEs to write java applications. > The problem was that at disc selection during installation, the continue button remained dimmed despite all efforts. > To resolve, first open Terminal then write java and press enter. > The mac will do the rest, once finished installation of both was straightforward. > The cash handed to Apple which was rapidly snapped up did not help when I called Apple as they could not help as java is not an Apple application. So not impressed with them. > > Regards and hope this helps someone else. > > Roger > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From desiandcandy at q.com Sun Dec 4 21:07:51 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 14:07:51 -0700 Subject: Bad-Elf In-Reply-To: <85665621-2EC3-4969-BAE0-CB1E8569E57E@gmail.com> References: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> <85665621-2EC3-4969-BAE0-CB1E8569E57E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <85B64B61-92FA-4F1F-8F13-50FD1F014375@q.com> Thanks so much Sarah! I don't remember seeing that one on the list, but I'll definitely check again. It has to be an App that stores its maps on the device, and doesn't rely on WiFi. Desi On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I am, and i use it. I hear they are aware of the vo sluggishness but all in all it is quite usable. If you double tap the speed limit thing you get the options and stuff while you are navigating. but I would try waze if it is on that list of apps. > > > Take care. > On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Desi Noller wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Are you updated to the latest version of Navigon? That's the one I heard people were having problems with. >> >> Desi >> >> >> On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Navigon is accessibil. You just have to work around some issues. It take ssome getting used to and I use it every day for my travels. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Desi Noller wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>> Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod Touch? It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the most accessible with VoiceOver. I had originally thought I would use Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, and I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work! Any help with this would be most appreciated! The Bad-Elf web site has a list of Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed since Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use. >>>> >>>> Desi >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 23:18:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 15:18:57 -0800 Subject: Bad-Elf In-Reply-To: <85B64B61-92FA-4F1F-8F13-50FD1F014375@q.com> References: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> <85665621-2EC3-4969-BAE0-CB1E8569E57E@gmail.com> <85B64B61-92FA-4F1F-8F13-50FD1F014375@q.com> Message-ID: <10FC6F84-A1D1-44D2-B75C-D8B72A87E759@gmail.com> Oh never mind. Waze is not one of those. Sorry about that. but hopefully someone one else will like the app. good luck with using your gps cradel. On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Desi Noller wrote: > Thanks so much Sarah! I don't remember seeing that one on the list, but I'll definitely check again. It has to be an App that stores its maps on the device, and doesn't rely on WiFi. > > Desi > > > > On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I am, and i use it. I hear they are aware of the vo sluggishness but all in all it is quite usable. If you double tap the speed limit thing you get the options and stuff while you are navigating. but I would try waze if it is on that list of apps. >> >> >> Take care. >> On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Desi Noller wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> Are you updated to the latest version of Navigon? That's the one I heard people were having problems with. >>> >>> Desi >>> >>> >>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Navigon is accessibil. You just have to work around some issues. It take ssome getting used to and I use it every day for my travels. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Desi Noller wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod Touch? It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the most accessible with VoiceOver. I had originally thought I would use Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, and I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work! Any help with this would be most appreciated! The Bad-Elf web site has a list of Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed since Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use. >>>>> >>>>> Desi >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com Sun Dec 4 23:24:58 2011 From: mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com (Marcos Rodrigues) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:24:58 -0200 Subject: iPhone not showing up in itunes In-Reply-To: References: <5EEC1E75-319E-4906-9B1C-1C016BE5A679@Mac-Access.net>, <9513A940-D689-417B-91D2-88768B903525@tznet.com>, Message-ID: Hi: I had exacly the same problem and discovered, don't know how, that the IPhone drivers were not up to date. Then, I just followed the steps given by the help menue and was able to solve the issue. Regards. > Subject: Re: iPhone not showing up in itunes > From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net > Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 10:26:41 -0500 > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > > Hi John, > > My friends have two macs and two iPhones and having the same problem on both systems. I've pretty much ruled out it being a cable issue as iPhoto works. > Also strange that this was first noticed right after updating to Snow Leopard. Both were running Leopard until recently. > > As they are all ready running the latest iTunes where do I send them to re instal iTunes again? I've never reinstalled iTunes before just updated. > > These tips are greatly appreciated. > > Eric Caron > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:59 PM, John Gunn wrote: > > > Hello: > > > > I've heard of this kind of issue on a tech podcast and the fix was to re-install iTunes. > > > > When installing you won't have to worry about loosing data. > > > > John > > > > > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > > > >> Hello Listers, > >> > >> If anyone has had this happen I'd appreciate tips on how to get iTunes to recognize the phone. > >> > >> The situation is that good friends of mine that often share iPhone tips and help are now having the following problem > >> > >> > >> They updated to Snow Leopard from Leopard. Now when they plug in their iPhone 4 to the computer iPhoto recognizes that a phone is there but in iTunes it does not show up. I had them restart their computers and restart their phones but it did not change the problem. > >> > >> Also we did google and looked on the Apple site but we didn't find a answer. in most cases the help areas just assumed that when you plug in the phone to the computer it will show up in devices. Nothing was mentioned about what to do if that doesn't happen! > >> > >> I've bragged about how helpful this list is so I'm pushing the limits here to see if I can help them. I owe them for mush Apple help and would love to give back. In fact when my Mac Book showed up new in the box it was these friends who helped with my first big problem. that was... Finding the darn start button. That thing can be really hard for a newbie to find! > >> > >> Eric Caron > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >> > >> or at the public Mail Archive: > >> . > >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > >> > >> > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 23:30:38 2011 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:30:38 -0000 Subject: HD dimmed References: Message-ID: Lew, Hopefully this will arrive with you and not the list as it is sent from a W*****s machine. Running a Macbook 13in, bought last October and not used very much. You can reach me: email: rawoolgrove at gmail.com or Skype: rawoolgrove Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lewis Alexander" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 9:39 PM Subject: Re: HD dimmed > yes. > > your hard drive has either been locked or is dying. > > symptoms of this include applications struggling to load, strange sounds > which you haven't heard before. irratic booting, etc. this is a dead hard > disk. > > please could you drop me an email off list with details of your machine, > if you have apple care cover, etc and I can walk you through various test > steps, etc to identify a dead drive. > > from what you have described, your drive has failed. > > Hard drives have a shelf life, because of their rotational speed, heat, > data read and write processes, drives fail. When they do, you know about > it. > > I've been there only yesterday with an SCSI drive which failed, had to > disassemble it, clean, respin and reassemble it to bring it back to life > to back up the contents to install on a nwer drive. > > lew > > On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:30, Roger Woolgrove wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> After installing some software and returning to desktop, MacbookHD is >> dimmed and I seem unable to access it. In some instances a reboot >> resolves this and in others it doesn't unless I leave it for somewhere >> between 24 and 48 hours. >> Does anyone know why the prolonged wait and better still, how do I >> prevent it happening. >> >> Thanks >> >> Roger >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR > FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or > a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in > touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to > help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 00:33:52 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 19:33:52 -0500 Subject: Bad-Elf In-Reply-To: <10FC6F84-A1D1-44D2-B75C-D8B72A87E759@gmail.com> References: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> <85665621-2EC3-4969-BAE0-CB1E8569E57E@gmail.com> <85B64B61-92FA-4F1F-8F13-50FD1F014375@q.com> <10FC6F84-A1D1-44D2-B75C-D8B72A87E759@gmail.com> Message-ID: <005901ccb2e5$9174fd40$b45ef7c0$@gmail.com> I still use Navigant and the newest version it has some issue from accessibility point but still very workable. Not as friendly as it used to be but very workable. The biggest thing is I think is to just set up your preface before you start your navigation and then you really don't need to access them till you get to your destination and then all you need to do is close the app all the way out even out of the app switcher. HTH and JMT Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 6:19 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bad-Elf Oh never mind. Waze is not one of those. Sorry about that. but hopefully someone one else will like the app. good luck with using your gps cradel. On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Desi Noller wrote: > Thanks so much Sarah! I don't remember seeing that one on the list, but I'll definitely check again. It has to be an App that stores its maps on the device, and doesn't rely on WiFi. > > Desi > > > > On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I am, and i use it. I hear they are aware of the vo sluggishness but all in all it is quite usable. If you double tap the speed limit thing you get the options and stuff while you are navigating. but I would try waze if it is on that list of apps. >> >> >> Take care. >> On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Desi Noller wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> Are you updated to the latest version of Navigon? That's the one I heard people were having problems with. >>> >>> Desi >>> >>> >>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Navigon is accessibil. You just have to work around some issues. It take ssome getting used to and I use it every day for my travels. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Desi Noller wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod Touch? It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the most accessible with VoiceOver. I had originally thought I would use Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, and I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work! Any help with this would be most appreciated! The Bad-Elf web site has a list of Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed since Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use. >>>>> >>>>> Desi >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From mattchao at verizon.net Mon Dec 5 01:39:23 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:39:23 -0500 Subject: VO Doesn't Speak at Startup In-Reply-To: References: <16CBC305-8098-4B75-B105-FA127EBF4A17@verizon.net> Message-ID: <0LVP000J6J9N1EV0@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Folks. Followed the suggestion, and got VO to speak the welcome message. Thanks to all who responded. Matthew Chao At 04:18 PM 12/4/2011, you wrote: >go to voiceover utility (VO-F8) then in the general pane, it should >say, display voiceover welcome. ensure it's checked. then close >voiceover utility. test it by logging out and then back in again. > >lew > >On 4 Dec 2011, at 20:35, Matthew Chao wrote: > > > Hi, Folks. My MacBook Pro no longer gives me the VO welcome > message when I turn it on. It used to do this. How do I get the > VO welcome message back? Thanks in advance. > > > > Matthew Chao > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > >Mr. L. Alexander. >Free Macs For The Blind. >E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >Direct line: 07936 877500 > >Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but >working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout >the UK FOR FREE! > >Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, >etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? >please get in touch. > >Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're >here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >http://www.mac-access.net > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 05:09:56 2011 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:09:56 +1100 Subject: Help with opening a PDF attachment on a Mac book pro Message-ID: <-2215058542388282958@unknownmsgid> Can someone tell me how to open and read a PDF file that I got as an attachment in mail. I'm using lion on my MacBook pro. Margaret Sent from my iPhone From mike at busboom.at Mon Dec 5 08:41:01 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:41:01 +0100 Subject: RTF version of IOS5 VoiceOver Manual? In-Reply-To: <8E960EF2-C980-4AF5-8097-AB41E3D137EF@mac.com> References: <8E960EF2-C980-4AF5-8097-AB41E3D137EF@mac.com> Message-ID: As usual, Esther, your response was delightfully thorough and very helpful. The article I will be translating is by a blind user of the iPhone who wants to chronicle her experience with the device and what strategies she employs to accomplish specific tasks. Understanding the German is absolutely no problem. I won't need to refer to the German documentation at all. I just want to make sure that all nomenclature in my English translation is spelled correctly and properly translated. I'll drink a cup of coffee to your health, all the while saying "Thank you." Mike On 4,Dec,2011, at 9:56 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Mike, > > John Panarese's MacForTheBlind web site's documentation page has RTF versions of these manuals. Just go to: > http://macfortheblind.com/documentation > (Type in the four words "Mac for the blind" as all lower case, without spaces, and add the ".com" extenstion, then type a slash and append the word "documentation".) > > However, I think that an easier way to check the English and German equivalents for terms in the iOS 5 VoiceOver User's Guide is to use the accessible HTML version for the iPhone OS 5 in English and in German. The same sections only differ by using "en" (for English) instead of "de" (for German) in the URL address. > > So, for example, the English version of the iPhone OS 5 user guide is: > http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/ > while the German version uses the same address with "de" substituted for "en": > http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/de/ > > This also works for individual sections. The section on "Accessibility" of the User Guide for the iPhone is: > http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph3e2e2c13.html > > The same section on "Bedienungshilfen" in the German version of the User Guide can be found by replacing the "en" in the previous address with "de": > > Using this substitution I can find an example of how double tapping to unlock the iPhone screen is translated, even though I don't speak German, just by finding the corresponding text to the section of the VoiceOver User Guide in English and in German. For example, under the section of "Using VoiceOver" is the description: > > Unlock iPhone > Select the Unlock button, then double-tap the screen. > > On the same page of the German version of the User Guide, "Verwenden von VoiceOver", is the description: > > Entsperren des iPhone > W?hlen Sie den Schalter ?Entsperren? aus und heben Sie die Sperre durch Doppeltippen auf den Bildschirm auf. > > The two different translations are on the pages: > http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph3e2e2329.html > and for the German: > http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/de/iph3e2e2329.html > > I keep a TextEdit window open to paste in the URLs and to change "en" to "de", and then to find the corresponding text on each page to copy. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Dec 4, 2011, at 06:04, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I have been asked to translate a rather lengthy article about the iPhone and VoiceOver from German into English. Though I am looking forward to translating the article, I was wondering if there was an RTF version of the IOS5 VoiceOver manual that I could output to a Braille display. I want to be sure that I get all of the terminology correct, both in terms of accuracy as well as spelling. A very simple example might be: "double tap" or "double tap." >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From phonerossy at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 08:45:02 2011 From: phonerossy at gmail.com (rk) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:45:02 +0100 Subject: new tc books Message-ID: ciao lyne, gordon and tracy. as usuale i would like to buy those two new books . please let me have the paypal order . >> Hello everybody I'm sorry I am a little late posting this; we are having problems about which I won't speak here. 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Lynne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Mon Dec 5 09:55:34 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 20:55:34 +1100 Subject: Help with opening a PDF attachment on a Mac book pro In-Reply-To: <-2215058542388282958@unknownmsgid> References: <-2215058542388282958@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <3380AA15-B0EA-4953-B20D-117BE10AFB98@bigpond.net.au> Margaret If you use vo + shift + m, this should provide you with an option to open the attachment. Otherwise the file menu should have an option. Once you have saved the file, then preview should permit you to view it. Sean On 05/12/2011, at 4:09 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > Can someone tell me how to open and read a PDF file that I got as an > attachment in mail. I'm using lion on my MacBook pro. > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Mon Dec 5 10:24:23 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 21:24:23 +1100 Subject: iPhone not showing up in iTunes In-Reply-To: <5A463704-646E-44C0-B041-AF336EFFBFFE@tznet.com> References: <005b01ccb249$153a70d0$3faf5270$@gmail.com> <000601ccb26f$0c7ca0f0$2575e2d0$@gmail.com> <5A463704-646E-44C0-B041-AF336EFFBFFE@tznet.com> Message-ID: <2378C0E8-AC5E-4289-B0CD-0573EE26C998@bigpond.net.au> Hi all. The issue with iTunes not detecting the iPhone and other devices I have had as well. My issue was a bit more complex due to having development tools Xcode installed. If you only have iTunes and no Xcode. Then what John stated is correct. Install the full copy of iTunes from http://www.apple.com/itunes over the top of your current installed version. Then it should all work fine. If you have Xcode installed. Then you have to completely uninstall Xcode first then reinstall iTunes. To uninstall Xcode you have to: Go to terminal and open up the shell. change directories to /applications/utilities. Run: sudo /Development/Library/uninstall-devtools -mode=all Wait for a while and you will eventually have to reload the computer. Sean On 05/12/2011, at 12:41 AM, John Gunn wrote: > You don't have to uninstall. > > Just install from the full .dmg but then you are probably using Windows but the same still holds true. > > On Dec 4, 2011, at 4:25 AM, Bubba wrote: > >> Well. you said reinstall iTunes and to reinstall it you would need to >> uninstall it. >> >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gunn >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:59 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: iPhone not showing up in iTunes >> >> I never said uninstall iTunes, I said install, huge difference. >> >> >> On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:53 PM, Bubba wrote: >> >>> Maybe but have they check the connection to the computer and tried a >>> different USB port? Have they tried using a different wire from the >>> device to the computer? Have they tried this on another computer? I >>> would do all this first before uninstalling iTunes then do that. JST >>> >>> >>> Bubba >>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gunn >>> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:59 PM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: iPhone not showing up in itunes >>> >>> Hello: >>> >>> I've heard of this kind of issue on a tech podcast and the fix was to >>> re-install iTunes. >>> >>> When installing you won't have to worry about loosing data. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Listers, >>>> >>>> If anyone has had this happen I'd appreciate tips on how to get >>>> iTunes to >>> recognize the phone. >>>> >>>> The situation is that good friends of mine that often share iPhone >>>> tips >>> and help are now having the following problem >>>> >>>> >>>> They updated to Snow Leopard from Leopard. Now when they plug in >>>> their >>> iPhone 4 to the computer iPhoto recognizes that a phone is there but >>> in iTunes it does not show up. I had them restart their computers and >>> restart their phones but it did not change the problem. >>>> >>>> Also we did google and looked on the Apple site but we didn't find a >>> answer. in most cases the help areas just assumed that when you plug >>> in the phone to the computer it will show up in devices. Nothing was >>> mentioned about what to do if that doesn't happen! >>>> >>>> I've bragged about how helpful this list is so I'm pushing the limits >>> here to see if I can help them. I owe them for mush Apple help and >>> would love to give back. In fact when my Mac Book showed up new in >>> the box it was these friends who helped with my first big problem. >>> that was... Finding the darn start button. That thing can be really hard >> for a newbie to find! >>>> >>>> Eric Caron >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Mon Dec 5 11:43:59 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 05:43:59 -0600 Subject: Help with opening a PDF attachment on a Mac book pro In-Reply-To: <3380AA15-B0EA-4953-B20D-117BE10AFB98@bigpond.net.au> References: <-2215058542388282958@unknownmsgid> <3380AA15-B0EA-4953-B20D-117BE10AFB98@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <00FE8063-8B1D-4702-9C5C-2DF0CBCD3264@tznet.com> Hello: Actually to view an attachment inside of an email message just press command-y. John On Dec 5, 2011, at 3:55 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Margaret > > If you use vo + shift + m, this should provide you with an option to open the attachment. Otherwise the file menu should have an option. Once you have saved the file, then preview should permit you to view it. > > Sean > On 05/12/2011, at 4:09 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> Can someone tell me how to open and read a PDF file that I got as an >> attachment in mail. I'm using lion on my MacBook pro. >> >> Margaret >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From nigel.rhodes at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 15:33:04 2011 From: nigel.rhodes at gmail.com (Nigel Rhodes) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 10:33:04 -0500 Subject: oder 2 new books Message-ID: <70DC66D8-00FC-468B-A3E5-893F0B6F88F6@gmail.com> Hello Lynne, I would like to order the 2 nwq books, on mail and ios 5 for the Ipad. I 'll await the paypal notice. thanks, qk Regards, Nigel Rhodes nigel.rhodes at gmail.com From desiandcandy at q.com Mon Dec 5 16:07:36 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:07:36 -0700 Subject: Learning Apps in iOS Message-ID: I'm interested in learning how people go about learning a new App for your iPhone or iPod Touch once you've downloaded it from the App store. I know that much can be learned by exploring the screens, but are there usually user guides available? If so, they have not been evident to me. Where should I be looking? Desi From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Dec 5 17:02:23 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane trethowan) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 04:02:23 +1100 Subject: Altec Lansing inmotion KICK IMT 520 portable iPhone/iPod Dock Message-ID: <4EDCF91F.2040400@internode.on.net> One word sums up this unit, "Beautiful!" in both looks and sound and price, I bought the power house for $85.00 Australian, normally this little beauty is around $225.00 Australian so shop around. A brief description, the dock looks like a very square boombox, a speaker each side of the dock itself. Basic controls are on the top of the dock and they're well spaced with nice big buttons, if you have good touch you'll be able to feel the symbols and writing on each. The controls turn on power, play/pause, adjust volume up and down and go to previous nad next track, a more advanced control layout is offered on the remote. Sound is what you'd expect from an Altec Lansing device, plenty of bass, plenty of mid-range and hice crisp clear tops. The set uses an internal rechargeable battery which gives around 6 hours of playing time, when the dock is powered the iPhone or iPod will charge with the dock. Convenience is another word which can be used to describe this piece of equipment, you can for example pick the unit up and set it down on a stirdy stand in a few seconds with the use of the folding handle, fold it upright to pick the device up, fold it into a middle locking position to make a angled stand for a desktop or tuck the handle away completely when carrying the dock in a case or a bag. The small card-type remote control for the Dock slits into the back panel when not in use or when transporting which is a nice touch, no excused to lose the remote control for this dock . On list we've discussed the Jawbone Jambox speaker system so I guess the obvious question is, "How is this dock different from the Jambox?". Firstly, the inmotion KICK IMT 520 is a wired dock, that is to say that an iPhone or iPod plugs into it either by the dock connector or via the line-in jack at the rear of the unit, this dock does not have Bluetooth facilities and nor is it a hands free Speakerphone. If a call does come and your music is playing, the music will be paused allowing you to answer the call in the usual ways, either by tapping the screen of your iPhone or by using some sort of speakerphone device. How does the sound compare to the Jambox? We're talking 2 totally different beasts here, Jambox has a more "Solid" sound however Jambox would be totally out of place in a noisy room or at a party, the Altec inmotion KICK IMT 520 is clear and loud enough to be heard at your party or gathering so in the words of the brochure for the system "Pick it up, put it down and play!". -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 17:10:21 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:10:21 -0800 Subject: Altec Lansing inmotion KICK IMT 520 portable iPhone/iPod Dock In-Reply-To: <4EDCF91F.2040400@internode.on.net> References: <4EDCF91F.2040400@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <5AD1517B-6612-4E45-AF0B-E01C6A6565F9@gmail.com> Oh wow. If I do get this thing do you think it will supportx the 4s or 5 what ever comes out when I upgrade in june next year, or will I have to wait, again. lol! I don't have a iPod doc and never have, but Also will the apple remote I bought also control this thing/ I hear they can control iPhones if they are connected via the iPod doc. Iv'e heard good things about this company. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Dane trethowan wrote: > One word sums up this unit, "Beautiful!" in both looks and sound and price, I bought the power house for $85.00 Australian, normally this little beauty is around $225.00 Australian so shop around. > > A brief description, the dock looks like a very square boombox, a speaker each side of the dock itself. > > Basic controls are on the top of the dock and they're well spaced with nice big buttons, if you have good touch you'll be able to feel the symbols and writing on each. The controls turn on power, play/pause, adjust volume up and down and go to previous nad next track, a more advanced control layout is offered on the remote. > > Sound is what you'd expect from an Altec Lansing device, plenty of bass, plenty of mid-range and hice crisp clear tops. > > The set uses an internal rechargeable battery which gives around 6 hours of playing time, when the dock is powered the iPhone or iPod will charge with the dock. > > Convenience is another word which can be used to describe this piece of equipment, you can for example pick the unit up and set it down on a stirdy stand in a few seconds with the use of the folding handle, fold it upright to pick the device up, fold it into a middle locking position to make a angled stand for a desktop or tuck the handle away completely when carrying the dock in a case or a bag. > > The small card-type remote control for the Dock slits into the back panel when not in use or when transporting which is a nice touch, no excused to lose the remote control for this dock . > > On list we've discussed the Jawbone Jambox speaker system so I guess the obvious question is, "How is this dock different from the Jambox?". > > Firstly, the inmotion KICK IMT 520 is a wired dock, that is to say that an iPhone or iPod plugs into it either by the dock connector or via the line-in jack at the rear of the unit, this dock does not have Bluetooth facilities and nor is it a hands free Speakerphone. If a call does come and your music is playing, the music will be paused allowing you to answer the call in the usual ways, either by tapping the screen of your iPhone or by using some sort of speakerphone device. > > How does the sound compare to the Jambox? We're talking 2 totally different beasts here, Jambox has a more "Solid" sound however Jambox would be totally out of place in a noisy room or at a party, the Altec inmotion KICK IMT 520 is clear and loud enough to be heard at your party or gathering so in the words of the brochure for the system "Pick it up, put it down and play!". > > > -- > sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Mon Dec 5 17:13:11 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:13:11 +0000 Subject: Altec Lansing inmotion KICK IMT 520 portable iPhone/iPod Dock In-Reply-To: <5AD1517B-6612-4E45-AF0B-E01C6A6565F9@gmail.com> References: <4EDCF91F.2040400@internode.on.net> <5AD1517B-6612-4E45-AF0B-E01C6A6565F9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6F3ED7B3-2E8D-404D-863C-1D7392729C6C@mac-access.net> this system sounds like a good number of products here in the UK and yes by the sound of it, it's rather blind friendly. most of these systems are either remote comtrolled and use the dock for iphone / ipod touch, etc. it should support the iPhone 5 when released in the future as these products cover from the 4s down to the earlier product ranges. best thing is to check on apple's store site as it may be sold there. ther options are to check with the manufacturer if your product is compatible. lew On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:10, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Oh wow. If I do get this thing do you think it will supportx the 4s or 5 what ever comes out when I upgrade in june next year, or will I have to wait, again. lol! I don't have a iPod doc and never have, but > > Also will the apple remote I bought also control this thing/ I hear they can control iPhones if they are connected via the iPod doc. > > Iv'e heard good things about this company. > > Take care. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Dane trethowan wrote: > >> One word sums up this unit, "Beautiful!" in both looks and sound and price, I bought the power house for $85.00 Australian, normally this little beauty is around $225.00 Australian so shop around. >> >> A brief description, the dock looks like a very square boombox, a speaker each side of the dock itself. >> >> Basic controls are on the top of the dock and they're well spaced with nice big buttons, if you have good touch you'll be able to feel the symbols and writing on each. The controls turn on power, play/pause, adjust volume up and down and go to previous nad next track, a more advanced control layout is offered on the remote. >> >> Sound is what you'd expect from an Altec Lansing device, plenty of bass, plenty of mid-range and hice crisp clear tops. >> >> The set uses an internal rechargeable battery which gives around 6 hours of playing time, when the dock is powered the iPhone or iPod will charge with the dock. >> >> Convenience is another word which can be used to describe this piece of equipment, you can for example pick the unit up and set it down on a stirdy stand in a few seconds with the use of the folding handle, fold it upright to pick the device up, fold it into a middle locking position to make a angled stand for a desktop or tuck the handle away completely when carrying the dock in a case or a bag. >> >> The small card-type remote control for the Dock slits into the back panel when not in use or when transporting which is a nice touch, no excused to lose the remote control for this dock . >> >> On list we've discussed the Jawbone Jambox speaker system so I guess the obvious question is, "How is this dock different from the Jambox?". >> >> Firstly, the inmotion KICK IMT 520 is a wired dock, that is to say that an iPhone or iPod plugs into it either by the dock connector or via the line-in jack at the rear of the unit, this dock does not have Bluetooth facilities and nor is it a hands free Speakerphone. If a call does come and your music is playing, the music will be paused allowing you to answer the call in the usual ways, either by tapping the screen of your iPhone or by using some sort of speakerphone device. >> >> How does the sound compare to the Jambox? We're talking 2 totally different beasts here, Jambox has a more "Solid" sound however Jambox would be totally out of place in a noisy room or at a party, the Altec inmotion KICK IMT 520 is clear and loud enough to be heard at your party or gathering so in the words of the brochure for the system "Pick it up, put it down and play!". >> >> >> -- >> sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 17:20:02 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:20:02 -0800 Subject: Altec Lansing inmotion KICK IMT 520 portable iPhone/iPod Dock In-Reply-To: <6F3ED7B3-2E8D-404D-863C-1D7392729C6C@mac-access.net> References: <4EDCF91F.2040400@internode.on.net> <5AD1517B-6612-4E45-AF0B-E01C6A6565F9@gmail.com> <6F3ED7B3-2E8D-404D-863C-1D7392729C6C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2D028F63-6DE9-484B-9F8E-FD41E53E6E2D@gmail.com> Will do. I don't want to sync my hard earned money in to something that won't work in a few months lol! Maybe if this will work I can ask for it for the holidays lol! or my birthday next year lol! On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > this system sounds like a good number of products here in the UK and yes by the sound of it, it's rather blind friendly. > > most of these systems are either remote controlled and use the dock for iPhone / iPod touch, etc. it should support the iPhone 5 when released in the future as these products cover from the 4s down to the earlier product ranges. best thing is to check on apple's store site as it may be sold there. there options are to check with the manufacturer if your product is compatible. > > lew > > On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:10, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Oh wow. If I do get this thing do you think it will supports the 4s or 5 what ever comes out when I upgrade in june next year, or will I have to wait, again. lol! I don't have a iPod doc and never have, but >> >> Also will the apple remote I bought also control this thing/ I hear they can control iPhones if they are connected via the iPod doc. >> >> Iv'e heard good things about this company. >> >> Take care. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >> If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Dane trethowan wrote: >> >>> One word sums up this unit, "Beautiful!" in both looks and sound and price, I bought the power house for $85.00 Australian, normally this little beauty is around $225.00 Australian so shop around. >>> >>> A brief description, the dock looks like a very square boombox, a speaker each side of the dock itself. >>> >>> Basic controls are on the top of the dock and they're well spaced with nice big buttons, if you have good touch you'll be able to feel the symbols and writing on each. The controls turn on power, play/pause, adjust volume up and down and go to previous nad next track, a more advanced control layout is offered on the remote. >>> >>> Sound is what you'd expect from an Altec Lansing device, plenty of bass, plenty of mid-range and hice crisp clear tops. >>> >>> The set uses an internal rechargeable battery which gives around 6 hours of playing time, when the dock is powered the iPhone or iPod will charge with the dock. >>> >>> Convenience is another word which can be used to describe this piece of equipment, you can for example pick the unit up and set it down on a stirdy stand in a few seconds with the use of the folding handle, fold it upright to pick the device up, fold it into a middle locking position to make a angled stand for a desktop or tuck the handle away completely when carrying the dock in a case or a bag. >>> >>> The small card-type remote control for the Dock slits into the back panel when not in use or when transporting which is a nice touch, no excused to lose the remote control for this dock . >>> >>> On list we've discussed the Jawbone Jambox speaker system so I guess the obvious question is, "How is this dock different from the Jambox?". >>> >>> Firstly, the inmotion KICK IMT 520 is a wired dock, that is to say that an iPhone or iPod plugs into it either by the dock connector or via the line-in jack at the rear of the unit, this dock does not have Bluetooth facilities and nor is it a hands free Speakerphone. If a call does come and your music is playing, the music will be paused allowing you to answer the call in the usual ways, either by tapping the screen of your iPhone or by using some sort of speakerphone device. >>> >>> How does the sound compare to the Jambox? We're talking 2 totally different beasts here, Jambox has a more "Solid" sound however Jambox would be totally out of place in a noisy room or at a party, the Altec inmotion KICK IMT 520 is clear and loud enough to be heard at your party or gathering so in the words of the brochure for the system "Pick it up, put it down and play!". >>> >>> >>> -- >>> sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Mon Dec 5 17:22:18 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:22:18 +0000 Subject: Altec Lansing inmotion KICK IMT 520 portable iPhone/iPod Dock In-Reply-To: <2D028F63-6DE9-484B-9F8E-FD41E53E6E2D@gmail.com> References: <4EDCF91F.2040400@internode.on.net> <5AD1517B-6612-4E45-AF0B-E01C6A6565F9@gmail.com> <6F3ED7B3-2E8D-404D-863C-1D7392729C6C@mac-access.net> <2D028F63-6DE9-484B-9F8E-FD41E53E6E2D@gmail.com> Message-ID: for me, not sure what I'm thinking of for christmas. my mind's not on it at the mo. busy trying to prepare some CD's for the older macs to get working. this is going to be difficult at best. time for a seriously strong coffee, chocolate, etc. maybe might treat myself to a macbook air... I've some savings left from a previous job. thinking about it. lew On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:20, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Will do. I don't want to sync my hard earned money in to something that won't work in a few months lol! Maybe if this will work I can ask for it for the holidays lol! or my birthday next year lol! > On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> this system sounds like a good number of products here in the UK and yes by the sound of it, it's rather blind friendly. >> >> most of these systems are either remote controlled and use the dock for iPhone / iPod touch, etc. it should support the iPhone 5 when released in the future as these products cover from the 4s down to the earlier product ranges. best thing is to check on apple's store site as it may be sold there. there options are to check with the manufacturer if your product is compatible. >> >> lew >> >> On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:10, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Oh wow. If I do get this thing do you think it will supports the 4s or 5 what ever comes out when I upgrade in june next year, or will I have to wait, again. lol! I don't have a iPod doc and never have, but >>> >>> Also will the apple remote I bought also control this thing/ I hear they can control iPhones if they are connected via the iPod doc. >>> >>> Iv'e heard good things about this company. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >>> If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Dane trethowan wrote: >>> >>>> One word sums up this unit, "Beautiful!" in both looks and sound and price, I bought the power house for $85.00 Australian, normally this little beauty is around $225.00 Australian so shop around. >>>> >>>> A brief description, the dock looks like a very square boombox, a speaker each side of the dock itself. >>>> >>>> Basic controls are on the top of the dock and they're well spaced with nice big buttons, if you have good touch you'll be able to feel the symbols and writing on each. The controls turn on power, play/pause, adjust volume up and down and go to previous nad next track, a more advanced control layout is offered on the remote. >>>> >>>> Sound is what you'd expect from an Altec Lansing device, plenty of bass, plenty of mid-range and hice crisp clear tops. >>>> >>>> The set uses an internal rechargeable battery which gives around 6 hours of playing time, when the dock is powered the iPhone or iPod will charge with the dock. >>>> >>>> Convenience is another word which can be used to describe this piece of equipment, you can for example pick the unit up and set it down on a stirdy stand in a few seconds with the use of the folding handle, fold it upright to pick the device up, fold it into a middle locking position to make a angled stand for a desktop or tuck the handle away completely when carrying the dock in a case or a bag. >>>> >>>> The small card-type remote control for the Dock slits into the back panel when not in use or when transporting which is a nice touch, no excused to lose the remote control for this dock . >>>> >>>> On list we've discussed the Jawbone Jambox speaker system so I guess the obvious question is, "How is this dock different from the Jambox?". >>>> >>>> Firstly, the inmotion KICK IMT 520 is a wired dock, that is to say that an iPhone or iPod plugs into it either by the dock connector or via the line-in jack at the rear of the unit, this dock does not have Bluetooth facilities and nor is it a hands free Speakerphone. If a call does come and your music is playing, the music will be paused allowing you to answer the call in the usual ways, either by tapping the screen of your iPhone or by using some sort of speakerphone device. >>>> >>>> How does the sound compare to the Jambox? We're talking 2 totally different beasts here, Jambox has a more "Solid" sound however Jambox would be totally out of place in a noisy room or at a party, the Altec inmotion KICK IMT 520 is clear and loud enough to be heard at your party or gathering so in the words of the brochure for the system "Pick it up, put it down and play!". >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Dec 5 17:19:12 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:19:12 +0000 Subject: Observation with iCloud backup Message-ID: <4EDCFD10.602@techno-chat.net> I have observed an alert I received on my iPhone 4 today telling me that an iCloud backup hasn't been performed in two weeks. I know why this is the case; I am not on wifi as I have been relocated temporarily for reasons I will not go into here. This is awesome as at least you are reminded about doing an iCloud backup. The alert has an ok button which you can double tap to dismiss it. From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Mon Dec 5 17:31:31 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:31:31 +0000 Subject: Altec Lansing inmotion KICK IMT 520 portable iPhone/iPod Dock In-Reply-To: References: <4EDCF91F.2040400@internode.on.net> <5AD1517B-6612-4E45-AF0B-E01C6A6565F9@gmail.com> <6F3ED7B3-2E8D-404D-863C-1D7392729C6C@mac-access.net> <2D028F63-6DE9-484B-9F8E-FD41E53E6E2D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Lew! Nope you don't want one of those old things! Why don't you get that red hot number Atari 128K system! hahahahahaha :] Colin Qapla! On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:22, Lewis Alexander wrote: > for me, not sure what I'm thinking of for christmas. my mind's not on it at the mo. busy trying to prepare some CD's for the older macs to get working. this is going to be difficult at best. time for a seriously strong coffee, chocolate, etc. > > maybe might treat myself to a macbook air... I've some savings left from a previous job. thinking about it. > > lew > > On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:20, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Will do. I don't want to sync my hard earned money in to something that won't work in a few months lol! Maybe if this will work I can ask for it for the holidays lol! or my birthday next year lol! >> On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >> >>> this system sounds like a good number of products here in the UK and yes by the sound of it, it's rather blind friendly. >>> >>> most of these systems are either remote controlled and use the dock for iPhone / iPod touch, etc. it should support the iPhone 5 when released in the future as these products cover from the 4s down to the earlier product ranges. best thing is to check on apple's store site as it may be sold there. there options are to check with the manufacturer if your product is compatible. >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:10, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Oh wow. If I do get this thing do you think it will supports the 4s or 5 what ever comes out when I upgrade in june next year, or will I have to wait, again. lol! I don't have a iPod doc and never have, but >>>> >>>> Also will the apple remote I bought also control this thing/ I hear they can control iPhones if they are connected via the iPod doc. >>>> >>>> Iv'e heard good things about this company. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >>>> If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Dane trethowan wrote: >>>> >>>>> One word sums up this unit, "Beautiful!" in both looks and sound and price, I bought the power house for $85.00 Australian, normally this little beauty is around $225.00 Australian so shop around. >>>>> >>>>> A brief description, the dock looks like a very square boombox, a speaker each side of the dock itself. >>>>> >>>>> Basic controls are on the top of the dock and they're well spaced with nice big buttons, if you have good touch you'll be able to feel the symbols and writing on each. The controls turn on power, play/pause, adjust volume up and down and go to previous nad next track, a more advanced control layout is offered on the remote. >>>>> >>>>> Sound is what you'd expect from an Altec Lansing device, plenty of bass, plenty of mid-range and hice crisp clear tops. >>>>> >>>>> The set uses an internal rechargeable battery which gives around 6 hours of playing time, when the dock is powered the iPhone or iPod will charge with the dock. >>>>> >>>>> Convenience is another word which can be used to describe this piece of equipment, you can for example pick the unit up and set it down on a stirdy stand in a few seconds with the use of the folding handle, fold it upright to pick the device up, fold it into a middle locking position to make a angled stand for a desktop or tuck the handle away completely when carrying the dock in a case or a bag. >>>>> >>>>> The small card-type remote control for the Dock slits into the back panel when not in use or when transporting which is a nice touch, no excused to lose the remote control for this dock . >>>>> >>>>> On list we've discussed the Jawbone Jambox speaker system so I guess the obvious question is, "How is this dock different from the Jambox?". >>>>> >>>>> Firstly, the inmotion KICK IMT 520 is a wired dock, that is to say that an iPhone or iPod plugs into it either by the dock connector or via the line-in jack at the rear of the unit, this dock does not have Bluetooth facilities and nor is it a hands free Speakerphone. If a call does come and your music is playing, the music will be paused allowing you to answer the call in the usual ways, either by tapping the screen of your iPhone or by using some sort of speakerphone device. >>>>> >>>>> How does the sound compare to the Jambox? We're talking 2 totally different beasts here, Jambox has a more "Solid" sound however Jambox would be totally out of place in a noisy room or at a party, the Altec inmotion KICK IMT 520 is clear and loud enough to be heard at your party or gathering so in the words of the brochure for the system "Pick it up, put it down and play!". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>> >>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >>> >>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >>> >>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>> http://www.mac-access.net >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Dec 5 17:35:47 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:35:47 +0000 Subject: Altec Lansing inmotion KICK IMT 520 portable iPhone/iPod Dock In-Reply-To: References: <4EDCF91F.2040400@internode.on.net> <5AD1517B-6612-4E45-AF0B-E01C6A6565F9@gmail.com> <6F3ED7B3-2E8D-404D-863C-1D7392729C6C@mac-access.net> <2D028F63-6DE9-484B-9F8E-FD41E53E6E2D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Get a Commodore 64, great sound and so retro! On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:31, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Lew! > Nope you don't want one of those old things! > Why don't you get that red hot number Atari 128K system! > hahahahahaha :] > Colin > Qapla! > > On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:22, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> for me, not sure what I'm thinking of for christmas. my mind's not on it at the mo. busy trying to prepare some CD's for the older macs to get working. this is going to be difficult at best. time for a seriously strong coffee, chocolate, etc. >> >> maybe might treat myself to a macbook air... I've some savings left from a previous job. thinking about it. >> >> lew >> >> On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:20, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Will do. I don't want to sync my hard earned money in to something that won't work in a few months lol! Maybe if this will work I can ask for it for the holidays lol! or my birthday next year lol! >>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >>> >>>> this system sounds like a good number of products here in the UK and yes by the sound of it, it's rather blind friendly. >>>> >>>> most of these systems are either remote controlled and use the dock for iPhone / iPod touch, etc. it should support the iPhone 5 when released in the future as these products cover from the 4s down to the earlier product ranges. best thing is to check on apple's store site as it may be sold there. there options are to check with the manufacturer if your product is compatible. >>>> >>>> lew >>>> >>>> On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:10, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oh wow. If I do get this thing do you think it will supports the 4s or 5 what ever comes out when I upgrade in june next year, or will I have to wait, again. lol! I don't have a iPod doc and never have, but >>>>> >>>>> Also will the apple remote I bought also control this thing/ I hear they can control iPhones if they are connected via the iPod doc. >>>>> >>>>> Iv'e heard good things about this company. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> >>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>> >>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >>>>> If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Dane trethowan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> One word sums up this unit, "Beautiful!" in both looks and sound and price, I bought the power house for $85.00 Australian, normally this little beauty is around $225.00 Australian so shop around. >>>>>> >>>>>> A brief description, the dock looks like a very square boombox, a speaker each side of the dock itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Basic controls are on the top of the dock and they're well spaced with nice big buttons, if you have good touch you'll be able to feel the symbols and writing on each. The controls turn on power, play/pause, adjust volume up and down and go to previous nad next track, a more advanced control layout is offered on the remote. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sound is what you'd expect from an Altec Lansing device, plenty of bass, plenty of mid-range and hice crisp clear tops. >>>>>> >>>>>> The set uses an internal rechargeable battery which gives around 6 hours of playing time, when the dock is powered the iPhone or iPod will charge with the dock. >>>>>> >>>>>> Convenience is another word which can be used to describe this piece of equipment, you can for example pick the unit up and set it down on a stirdy stand in a few seconds with the use of the folding handle, fold it upright to pick the device up, fold it into a middle locking position to make a angled stand for a desktop or tuck the handle away completely when carrying the dock in a case or a bag. >>>>>> >>>>>> The small card-type remote control for the Dock slits into the back panel when not in use or when transporting which is a nice touch, no excused to lose the remote control for this dock . >>>>>> >>>>>> On list we've discussed the Jawbone Jambox speaker system so I guess the obvious question is, "How is this dock different from the Jambox?". >>>>>> >>>>>> Firstly, the inmotion KICK IMT 520 is a wired dock, that is to say that an iPhone or iPod plugs into it either by the dock connector or via the line-in jack at the rear of the unit, this dock does not have Bluetooth facilities and nor is it a hands free Speakerphone. If a call does come and your music is playing, the music will be paused allowing you to answer the call in the usual ways, either by tapping the screen of your iPhone or by using some sort of speakerphone device. >>>>>> >>>>>> How does the sound compare to the Jambox? We're talking 2 totally different beasts here, Jambox has a more "Solid" sound however Jambox would be totally out of place in a noisy room or at a party, the Altec inmotion KICK IMT 520 is clear and loud enough to be heard at your party or gathering so in the words of the brochure for the system "Pick it up, put it down and play!". >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >>>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>>> >>>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >>>> >>>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >>>> >>>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>>> http://www.mac-access.net >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 17:34:24 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 12:34:24 -0500 Subject: Learning Apps in iOS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, some apps have some tutorials on it some have help section and some will even have podcast on their site and some will not have nothing at all. But one site to go to to get help on a app if it is listed up there is Apple Vist. So see link to it below. Also list like this is a great resource. HTH http://applevis.com/ Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Desi Noller Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:08 AM To: mac-access Subject: Learning Apps in iOS I'm interested in learning how people go about learning a new App for your iPhone or iPod Touch once you've downloaded it from the App store. I know that much can be learned by exploring the screens, but are there usually user guides available? If so, they have not been evident to me. Where should I be looking? Desi <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Dec 5 18:30:35 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:30:35 +1100 Subject: Altec Lansing inmotion KICK IMT 520 portable iPhone/iPod Dock In-Reply-To: <5AD1517B-6612-4E45-AF0B-E01C6A6565F9@gmail.com> References: <4EDCF91F.2040400@internode.on.net> <5AD1517B-6612-4E45-AF0B-E01C6A6565F9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C86D42C-4B99-4338-B4E2-2E17A5671066@internode.on.net> Its compatible with all the iPhone range. On 06/12/2011, at 4:10 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Oh wow. If I do get this thing do you think it will supportx the 4s or 5 what ever comes out when I upgrade in june next year, or will I have to wait, again. lol! I don't have a iPod doc and never have, but > > Also will the apple remote I bought also control this thing/ I hear they can control iPhones if they are connected via the iPod doc. > > Iv'e heard good things about this company. > > Take care. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Dane trethowan wrote: > >> One word sums up this unit, "Beautiful!" in both looks and sound and price, I bought the power house for $85.00 Australian, normally this little beauty is around $225.00 Australian so shop around. >> >> A brief description, the dock looks like a very square boombox, a speaker each side of the dock itself. >> >> Basic controls are on the top of the dock and they're well spaced with nice big buttons, if you have good touch you'll be able to feel the symbols and writing on each. The controls turn on power, play/pause, adjust volume up and down and go to previous nad next track, a more advanced control layout is offered on the remote. >> >> Sound is what you'd expect from an Altec Lansing device, plenty of bass, plenty of mid-range and hice crisp clear tops. >> >> The set uses an internal rechargeable battery which gives around 6 hours of playing time, when the dock is powered the iPhone or iPod will charge with the dock. >> >> Convenience is another word which can be used to describe this piece of equipment, you can for example pick the unit up and set it down on a stirdy stand in a few seconds with the use of the folding handle, fold it upright to pick the device up, fold it into a middle locking position to make a angled stand for a desktop or tuck the handle away completely when carrying the dock in a case or a bag. >> >> The small card-type remote control for the Dock slits into the back panel when not in use or when transporting which is a nice touch, no excused to lose the remote control for this dock . >> >> On list we've discussed the Jawbone Jambox speaker system so I guess the obvious question is, "How is this dock different from the Jambox?". >> >> Firstly, the inmotion KICK IMT 520 is a wired dock, that is to say that an iPhone or iPod plugs into it either by the dock connector or via the line-in jack at the rear of the unit, this dock does not have Bluetooth facilities and nor is it a hands free Speakerphone. If a call does come and your music is playing, the music will be paused allowing you to answer the call in the usual ways, either by tapping the screen of your iPhone or by using some sort of speakerphone device. >> >> How does the sound compare to the Jambox? We're talking 2 totally different beasts here, Jambox has a more "Solid" sound however Jambox would be totally out of place in a noisy room or at a party, the Altec inmotion KICK IMT 520 is clear and loud enough to be heard at your party or gathering so in the words of the brochure for the system "Pick it up, put it down and play!". >> >> >> -- >> sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 19:10:05 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 14:10:05 -0500 Subject: Bad-Elf References: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com><85665621-2EC3-4969-BAE0-CB1E8569E57E@gmail.com><85B64B61-92FA-4F1F-8F13-50FD1F014375@q.com><10FC6F84-A1D1-44D2-B75C-D8B72A87E759@gmail.com> <005901ccb2e5$9174fd40$b45ef7c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8F9A7D834E5942B9BB7FF3454BDE4C1E@DD952WB1> Perception of accessibility is subjective, however, to reiterate my prior post on this topic, I believe that for those using an iPhone 4S, Navigon 2.0 is absolutely no less accessible than the previous version. While its true that its no longer possible to cancel a route or change the speed profile while navigating without closing the app (a situation that I presume is unique to voiceOver dependent users), the trade-off is that GPS data such as velocity and coordinates have been rendered more easily readable. Thanks to Sarah, I discovered that Navigon loads in less than half the time on my 4S than on her iPhone 4. Most likely related to the load time disparity is the fact that in rather extensive testing now, I've observed no voiceOver sluggishness whatsoever. Note that it is not necessary to remove Navigon (or any app for that matter) from the app switcher in order to close it. This can also be accomplished by holding down the power button until the shutdown dialog appears and then pressing and holding home until a little beep is emitted. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: RE: Bad-Elf >I still use Navigant and the newest version it has some issue from > accessibility point but still very workable. Not as friendly as it used to > be but very workable. The biggest thing is I think is to just set up your > preface before you start your navigation and then you really don't need to > access them till you get to your destination and then all you need to do > is > close the app all the way out even out of the app switcher. HTH and JMT > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 6:19 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Bad-Elf > > Oh never mind. Waze is not one of those. Sorry about that. but hopefully > someone one else will like the app. > > good luck with using your gps cradel. > On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Desi Noller wrote: > >> Thanks so much Sarah! I don't remember seeing that one on the list, but > I'll definitely check again. It has to be an App that stores its maps on > the device, and doesn't rely on WiFi. >> >> Desi >> >> >> >> On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I am, and i use it. I hear they are aware of the vo sluggishness but >>> all > in all it is quite usable. If you double tap the speed limit thing you get > the options and stuff while you are navigating. but I would try waze if it > is on that list of apps. >>> >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Desi Noller wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sarah, >>>> >>>> Are you updated to the latest version of Navigon? That's the one I > heard people were having problems with. >>>> >>>> Desi >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Navigon is accessibil. You just have to work around some issues. It > take ssome getting used to and I use it every day for my travels. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Desi Noller wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod > Touch? It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the > most accessible with VoiceOver. I had originally thought I would use > Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, > and > I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work! Any > help > with this would be most appreciated! The Bad-Elf web site has a list of > Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one > would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed > since > Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use. >>>>>> >>>>>> Desi >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Dec 5 19:31:19 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:31:19 +1100 Subject: Altec Lansing inmotion KICK IMT 520 portable iPhone/iPod Dock In-Reply-To: <6F3ED7B3-2E8D-404D-863C-1D7392729C6C@mac-access.net> References: <4EDCF91F.2040400@internode.on.net> <5AD1517B-6612-4E45-AF0B-E01C6A6565F9@gmail.com> <6F3ED7B3-2E8D-404D-863C-1D7392729C6C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I'm sure there are many machines like the one I described out there. This one is certainly very easy to use whether you're blind or anything else, only problem might be for those with big fingers as the buttons on the remote control are a little small and they require a considerable amount of pressure to push. Altec Lansing make at least a dozen different iPhone/iPod docks of various types including those with bluetooth capabilities, some with built-in FM radio and some with dual dock facilities. On 06/12/2011, at 4:13 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > this system sounds like a good number of products here in the UK and yes by the sound of it, it's rather blind friendly. > > most of these systems are either remote comtrolled and use the dock for iphone / ipod touch, etc. it should support the iPhone 5 when released in the future as these products cover from the 4s down to the earlier product ranges. best thing is to check on apple's store site as it may be sold there. ther options are to check with the manufacturer if your product is compatible. > > lew > > On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:10, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Oh wow. If I do get this thing do you think it will supportx the 4s or 5 what ever comes out when I upgrade in june next year, or will I have to wait, again. lol! I don't have a iPod doc and never have, but >> >> Also will the apple remote I bought also control this thing/ I hear they can control iPhones if they are connected via the iPod doc. >> >> Iv'e heard good things about this company. >> >> Take care. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >> If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Dane trethowan wrote: >> >>> One word sums up this unit, "Beautiful!" in both looks and sound and price, I bought the power house for $85.00 Australian, normally this little beauty is around $225.00 Australian so shop around. >>> >>> A brief description, the dock looks like a very square boombox, a speaker each side of the dock itself. >>> >>> Basic controls are on the top of the dock and they're well spaced with nice big buttons, if you have good touch you'll be able to feel the symbols and writing on each. The controls turn on power, play/pause, adjust volume up and down and go to previous nad next track, a more advanced control layout is offered on the remote. >>> >>> Sound is what you'd expect from an Altec Lansing device, plenty of bass, plenty of mid-range and hice crisp clear tops. >>> >>> The set uses an internal rechargeable battery which gives around 6 hours of playing time, when the dock is powered the iPhone or iPod will charge with the dock. >>> >>> Convenience is another word which can be used to describe this piece of equipment, you can for example pick the unit up and set it down on a stirdy stand in a few seconds with the use of the folding handle, fold it upright to pick the device up, fold it into a middle locking position to make a angled stand for a desktop or tuck the handle away completely when carrying the dock in a case or a bag. >>> >>> The small card-type remote control for the Dock slits into the back panel when not in use or when transporting which is a nice touch, no excused to lose the remote control for this dock . >>> >>> On list we've discussed the Jawbone Jambox speaker system so I guess the obvious question is, "How is this dock different from the Jambox?". >>> >>> Firstly, the inmotion KICK IMT 520 is a wired dock, that is to say that an iPhone or iPod plugs into it either by the dock connector or via the line-in jack at the rear of the unit, this dock does not have Bluetooth facilities and nor is it a hands free Speakerphone. If a call does come and your music is playing, the music will be paused allowing you to answer the call in the usual ways, either by tapping the screen of your iPhone or by using some sort of speakerphone device. >>> >>> How does the sound compare to the Jambox? We're talking 2 totally different beasts here, Jambox has a more "Solid" sound however Jambox would be totally out of place in a noisy room or at a party, the Altec inmotion KICK IMT 520 is clear and loud enough to be heard at your party or gathering so in the words of the brochure for the system "Pick it up, put it down and play!". >>> >>> >>> -- >>> sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Mon Dec 5 20:17:18 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 20:17:18 +0000 Subject: Altec Lansing inmotion KICK IMT 520 portable iPhone/iPod Dock Message-ID: <76EC54FC-5D3B-4E37-BFB4-010BA088C915@mac-access.net> (sincerest apologies. due to an oversight on my part, I had replied to the message and had exceeded data size. To all users on this list, if replying to messages, please reply but edit to only include the previous sender's comment. that way users won't receive message rejection errors, etc) spits in bucket. DING! I need a 2nd system for diagnostics as I'm loathed to take my macbook pro on sites. it's my main host and aiagnostics master for logic boards, etc as well as the data server. so a macbook air is a possibility. either that or something else on the cards. I'm absolutely fuming that apple killed off the XServe servers. so I'm on the hunt for a G4 Xserve or somethig like that as a datacenter. It's frustrating when having to burn CD's all the time between home and the workshop to install OS software, etc. complex situation. lew On 5 Dec 2011, at 17:31, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Lew! > Nope you don't want one of those old things! > Why don't you get that red hot number Atari 128K system! > hahahahahaha :] > Colin > Qapla! Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From opensesame at me.com Mon Dec 5 20:25:01 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 15:25:01 -0500 Subject: Navigon 2.0 performance [Was: Re: Bad-Elf] In-Reply-To: <8F9A7D834E5942B9BB7FF3454BDE4C1E@DD952WB1> References: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> <85665621-2EC3-4969-BAE0-CB1E8569E57E@gmail.com> <85B64B61-92FA-4F1F-8F13-50FD1F014375@q.com> <10FC6F84-A1D1-44D2-B75C-D8B72A87E759@gmail.com> <005901ccb2e5$9174fd40$b45ef7c0$@gmail.com> <8F9A7D834E5942B9BB7FF3454BDE4C1E@DD952WB1> Message-ID: Geoff, I guess this is paybacks for all the time you've patiently sat by with your 3GS while those of us with the 4 were sailing happily along. . I recently had the opportunity to use Navigon 2.o again, this time in Virginia, Maryland & Delaware on my ATT iPhone 4 while traveling in a car, and the sluggishness in certain sections of the app was painful. I see that applevis.com has thankfully made Navigon 2.0 the target of this month's accessibility campaign. Anyone interested can add your voice by visiting the applevis website. Cheers, Bryan On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Perception of accessibility is subjective, however, to reiterate my prior post on this topic, I believe that for those using an iPhone 4S, Navigon 2.0 is absolutely no less accessible than the previous version. While its true that its no longer possible to From mattchao at verizon.net Tue Dec 6 00:35:18 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:35:18 -0500 Subject: Connecting iPhone to PC with iTunes Message-ID: <0LVR009EQAYWWA60@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Folks. I was trying to help my significant other connect her iPhone to her PC. Couldn't get the iPhone to be seen by the PC. Something about mobile services not being available. Anyone else run into this problem? I need to get the iPhone to connect with the PC so I can upgrade her iOs to 5.01. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Matthew Chao From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 00:45:26 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:45:26 +0000 Subject: VMWare Fusion, anybody want help with download? In-Reply-To: <89EFEC1D-C9C3-46AB-80EF-EA9CDB1A1C41@gmail.com> References: <89EFEC1D-C9C3-46AB-80EF-EA9CDB1A1C41@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78CA896F-6F11-4735-AE2C-10CDC6AF02F4@mac-access.net> Hello Amber I'm very sorry; I'm way behind on email here for a number of reasons. If you still require help with this, let me know and I'll see what I can do for you. Lynne On 27 Nov 2011, at 20:14, Amber Harmon wrote: Hi I have it installed but need help creating a verbal machine. I have an xp iso but need some help. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 00:48:49 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:48:49 +0000 Subject: VMWare Fusion, anybody want help with download? In-Reply-To: <8D0DB2D8-930E-4226-AE54-C6B330DA2698@gmail.com> References: <89EFEC1D-C9C3-46AB-80EF-EA9CDB1A1C41@gmail.com> <51BD05DE-9922-4035-A57F-09DC97CECBCA@mac-access.net> <8D0DB2D8-930E-4226-AE54-C6B330DA2698@gmail.com> Message-ID: <552F4AA8-16DD-417C-B057-4B8B8525D10C@mac-access.net> Hello Amber I am a little surprised by Lew's response to be honest. It sounded a bit discouraging for new members. Lew is not the only person in a position to help you with this, I'm happy too if you contact me off list. I'll be happy to help. You may need to give me a little time, we have a very great deal going on just now. But I'll gladly help you out. Lynne On 27 Nov 2011, at 20:22, Amber Harmon wrote: oh ok now I wish I had a version of windows seven to install I wonder if its easier to install without sights assistance. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 00:56:21 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:56:21 +0000 Subject: VMWare Fusion, anybody want help with download? In-Reply-To: <715337.31616.qm@smtp818.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <715337.31616.qm@smtp818.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7B9BF199-4613-4B34-AF6A-92AB3FE7E277@mac-access.net> Hello David Setting up the VM is on topic. Where it goes off topic is once Windows is running, and the configuration. I hope that helps. I also agree totally with you; Lew's information is a little flawed. It's perfectly possible, even simple, for a blind person to create and maintain a virtual machines. That includes the installation of anything from 98 upwards. Lynne On 27 Nov 2011, at 21:12, David Griffith wrote: I am not sure that it is on topic for this list but it is perfectly possible to install without sighted help windows 7 with vm fusion and get up and running with NVDA. Probably a topic for the tech list though. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 01:02:06 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 01:02:06 +0000 Subject: iTether In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83D44681-7852-4A2A-AC65-25BFE6880C9B@mac-access.net> Hello Kevin I've just done a search in the App store and got nothing. I assume it hasn't been removed? Maybe it's US only. Lynne On 29 Nov 2011, at 12:30, Kevin Chao wrote: An extremely useful, very worthwhile, and fully accessible app and PC/Mac companion client accessible iTether is available in app store. I've been using iTether since last night, tweeted about it, and many others are using it, and we are all absolutely enjoying it. Anyone who has an unlimited 3G data plan will find this to be extremely useful. No need to pay smartphone carrier for a tethering plan, no need to jailbreak and use PDAnet, and iTether is all legal and approved via Apple iTunes App Store. Please have a look in app store for iTether, all the details, including how to get up and running are contained within description. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 01:13:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:13:06 -0800 Subject: iTether In-Reply-To: <83D44681-7852-4A2A-AC65-25BFE6880C9B@mac-access.net> References: <83D44681-7852-4A2A-AC65-25BFE6880C9B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: No it got pulled from all the apple app stores. We even in the us don't have access to it. I just contacted he app developer and he said there's no way to download it anymore. What a shame. On Dec 5, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Kevin > > I've just done a search in the App store and got nothing. I assume it hasn't been removed? Maybe it's US only. > > Lynne > > On 29 Nov 2011, at 12:30, Kevin Chao wrote: > > An extremely useful, very worthwhile, and fully accessible app and > PC/Mac companion client accessible iTether is available in app store. > > I've been using iTether since last night, tweeted about it, and many > others are using it, and we are all absolutely enjoying it. Anyone who > has an unlimited 3G data plan will find this to be extremely useful. > No need to pay smartphone carrier for a tethering plan, no need to > jailbreak and use PDAnet, and iTether is all legal and approved via > Apple iTunes App Store. > > Please have a look in app store for iTether, all the details, > including how to get up and running are contained within description. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 01:13:55 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:13:55 -0800 Subject: VMWare Fusion, anybody want help with download? In-Reply-To: <7B9BF199-4613-4B34-AF6A-92AB3FE7E277@mac-access.net> References: <715337.31616.qm@smtp818.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7B9BF199-4613-4B34-AF6A-92AB3FE7E277@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <02137A02-87D4-4502-A1CE-FF0A6428DA75@gmail.com> yeah I just set up the easy install and waited for a half an hour and it was up and running. so it is totally possibil to set up windows wiht out sighted help. On Dec 5, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello David > > Setting up the VM is on topic. Where it goes off topic is once Windows is running, and the configuration. I hope that helps. I also agree totally with you; Lew's information is a little flawed. It's perfectly possible, even simple, for a blind person to create and maintain a virtual machines. That includes the installation of anything from 98 upwards. > > Lynne > > On 27 Nov 2011, at 21:12, David Griffith wrote: > > I am not sure that it is on topic for this list but it is perfectly possible > to install without sighted help windows 7 with vm fusion and get up and > running with NVDA. Probably a topic for the tech list though. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 01:14:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:14:40 -0800 Subject: Connecting iPhone to PC with iTunes In-Reply-To: <0LVR009EQAYWWA60@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0LVR009EQAYWWA60@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <68B01E00-4D11-4EE4-B46F-CB14F0132026@gmail.com> I would write to the techno chat list as we only discuss mac operation systems here. Take care. On Dec 5, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks. I was trying to help my significant other connect her iPhone to her PC. Couldn't get the iPhone to be seen by the PC. Something about mobile services not being available. Anyone else run into this problem? I need to get the iPhone to connect with the PC so I can upgrade her iOs to 5.01. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > Matthew Chao > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 01:15:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:15:18 -0800 Subject: Navigon 2.0 performance [Was: Re: Bad-Elf] In-Reply-To: References: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> <85665621-2EC3-4969-BAE0-CB1E8569E57E@gmail.com> <85B64B61-92FA-4F1F-8F13-50FD1F014375@q.com> <10FC6F84-A1D1-44D2-B75C-D8B72A87E759@gmail.com> <005901ccb2e5$9174fd40$b45ef7c0$@gmail.com> <8F9A7D834E5942B9BB7FF3454BDE4C1E@DD952WB1> Message-ID: <3ECA0456-ED92-4457-BAFD-7C1B88E5A11D@gmail.com> They are aware of it actually. I heard about that on there twitter feed. Take care. On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Geoff, I guess this is paybacks for all the time you've patiently sat by with your 3GS while those of us with the 4 were sailing happily along. . > > I recently had the opportunity to use Navigon 2.o again, this time in Virginia, Maryland & Delaware on my ATT iPhone 4 while traveling in a car, and the sluggishness in certain sections of the app was painful. > > I see that applevis.com has thankfully made Navigon 2.0 the target of this month's accessibility campaign. Anyone interested can add your voice by visiting the applevis website. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> Perception of accessibility is subjective, however, to reiterate my prior post on this topic, I believe that for those using an iPhone 4S, Navigon 2.0 is absolutely no less accessible than the previous version. While its true that its no longer possible to > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 02:21:01 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 02:21:01 +0000 Subject: oder 2 new books In-Reply-To: <70DC66D8-00FC-468B-A3E5-893F0B6F88F6@gmail.com> References: <70DC66D8-00FC-468B-A3E5-893F0B6F88F6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78B7DC25-C192-4910-BB92-1A0240D3F72E@mac-access.net> Hello Nigel & everybody We'd be grateful if you'd please send us these "I'd like to buy" messages privately to the support address. Not complaining; but it makes life easier for us. Thank you. Lynne On 5 Dec 2011, at 15:33, Nigel Rhodes wrote: Hello Lynne, I would like to order the 2 nwq books, on mail and ios 5 for the Ipad. I 'll await the paypal notice. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 02:20:43 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 18:20:43 -0800 Subject: voice over crashes when switching sound cards Message-ID: Hello all. Using OS10.7.2. For the last few months now vo has been crashing when I switch outputs and I mean it's an all out crash. I tried to restart and that works but I can't switch outputs and restart every time. I even went to sound in the vo utility and switched sound cards then but no luck. I tried bringing up the training thing but that made it come out of the real sound card. I switched back to my internal and I had to bring up the trainer just to get vo back. Iv'e reported this to apple with no success and I have to use my outputs for demos and stuff. This is ridiculous! Any joy in solving this? Thanks all From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 02:23:17 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 02:23:17 +0000 Subject: iTether In-Reply-To: References: <83D44681-7852-4A2A-AC65-25BFE6880C9B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <734A47CE-CC0C-4F87-89AB-B6396D148963@mac-access.net> Hello Saraah Yes, so I gather. Sorry everybody; I was way behind on email. Lynne On 6 Dec 2011, at 01:13, Sarah Alawami wrote: No it got pulled from all the apple app stores. We even in the us don't have access to it. I just contacted he app developer and he said there's no way to download it anymore. What a shame. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 02:25:30 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 02:25:30 +0000 Subject: Connecting iPhone to PC with iTunes In-Reply-To: <68B01E00-4D11-4EE4-B46F-CB14F0132026@gmail.com> References: <0LVR009EQAYWWA60@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> <68B01E00-4D11-4EE4-B46F-CB14F0132026@gmail.com> Message-ID: <105BB956-2A68-41BB-926B-5E6316C0504F@mac-access.net> Hello Sarah & everybody That's totally correct. Discussing the Apple Windows apps is off topic for this group. Sorry Matthew, but we have to be strict on this. Lynne On 6 Dec 2011, at 01:14, Sarah Alawami wrote: I would write to the techno chat list as we only discuss mac operation systems here. From deblewis53 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 02:43:04 2011 From: deblewis53 at gmail.com (Deb Lewis) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 18:43:04 -0800 Subject: Reading Chat HIstory in adium Message-ID: <87A3A587-930C-4178-940C-C4981C7F9BBE@gmail.com> Hello: Would appreciate some help with adium and VO. I'm doing IRC and all is working well except that I occasionally need to read the chat history if i've missed something important. It's not in the window where the live chat is occurring and i can't find it anywhere. Have looked through the menus including all the events and I can find no evidence of it. If anyone could unravel this mystery I'd be so appreciative. Thanks!! Deb From lyewchan at telus.net Tue Dec 6 05:17:56 2011 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 21:17:56 -0800 Subject: finding ways around Message-ID: <74950E80-C0F8-4AEF-B356-5D048CB85777@telus.net> Hi there. The mac I have is one that was purchased from an acquaintance. He said he cleared it all. for me and reloaded what I needed but he says there is no password yet I cannot make changes then lock to revent changes without a password I don't know. I have trouble with my y fi sometimes going to another network in the neighbourhood and I have to keep bringing it back to mine. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Lovette From rattail4 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 05:45:56 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:45:56 -0500 Subject: finding ways around In-Reply-To: <74950E80-C0F8-4AEF-B356-5D048CB85777@telus.net> References: <74950E80-C0F8-4AEF-B356-5D048CB85777@telus.net> Message-ID: <797AE582077D4408A6590A058154859A@MQUAD> He may have said there is no password but from what I understand you can't set up a mac without a password. I'd ask again to be sure otherwise you may be reinstalling OSX yourself -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lovette Yewchan" Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 0:17 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: finding ways around > Hi there. The mac I have is one that was purchased from an acquaintance. > He said he cleared it all. > for me and reloaded what I needed but he says there is no password yet I > cannot make changes then lock to revent changes without a password I don't > know. > I have trouble with my y fi sometimes going to another network in the > neighbourhood and I have to keep bringing it back to mine. > Does anyone have any suggestions? > Thanks in advance. > Lovette > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From jekis at me.com Tue Dec 6 05:54:55 2011 From: jekis at me.com (Justin Ekis) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:54:55 -0800 Subject: Altec Lansing inmotion KICK IMT 520 portable iPhone/iPod Dock In-Reply-To: <4EDCF91F.2040400@internode.on.net> References: <4EDCF91F.2040400@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <68B5DF41-48C9-4D2D-8E87-5DD3C9647D27@me.com> Thank you for this detailed review. I have had my eye on the IMT320, and this IMT520 looks just as good. At first glance, I can see no difference between the two devices but I'm sure there is something I'm missing. The 320 is less expensive by about $20.00 US, but I want to figure out what I'm giving up to save that money. Thanks again. Justin Ekis On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Dane trethowan wrote: One word sums up this unit, "Beautiful!" in both looks and sound and price, I bought the power house for $85.00 Australian, normally this little beauty is around $225.00 Australian so shop around. A brief description, the dock looks like a very square boombox, a speaker each side of the dock itself. Basic controls are on the top of the dock and they're well spaced with nice big buttons, if you have good touch you'll be able to feel the symbols and writing on each. The controls turn on power, play/pause, adjust volume up and down and go to previous nad next track, a more advanced control layout is offered on the remote. Sound is what you'd expect from an Altec Lansing device, plenty of bass, plenty of mid-range and hice crisp clear tops. The set uses an internal rechargeable battery which gives around 6 hours of playing time, when the dock is powered the iPhone or iPod will charge with the dock. Convenience is another word which can be used to describe this piece of equipment, you can for example pick the unit up and set it down on a stirdy stand in a few seconds with the use of the folding handle, fold it upright to pick the device up, fold it into a middle locking position to make a angled stand for a desktop or tuck the handle away completely when carrying the dock in a case or a bag. The small card-type remote control for the Dock slits into the back panel when not in use or when transporting which is a nice touch, no excused to lose the remote control for this dock . On list we've discussed the Jawbone Jambox speaker system so I guess the obvious question is, "How is this dock different from the Jambox?". Firstly, the inmotion KICK IMT 520 is a wired dock, that is to say that an iPhone or iPod plugs into it either by the dock connector or via the line-in jack at the rear of the unit, this dock does not have Bluetooth facilities and nor is it a hands free Speakerphone. If a call does come and your music is playing, the music will be paused allowing you to answer the call in the usual ways, either by tapping the screen of your iPhone or by using some sort of speakerphone device. How does the sound compare to the Jambox? We're talking 2 totally different beasts here, Jambox has a more "Solid" sound however Jambox would be totally out of place in a noisy room or at a party, the Altec inmotion KICK IMT 520 is clear and loud enough to be heard at your party or gathering so in the words of the brochure for the system "Pick it up, put it down and play!". -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From d.griffith at btinternet.com Tue Dec 6 06:19:37 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:19:37 -0000 Subject: finding ways around In-Reply-To: <797AE582077D4408A6590A058154859A@MQUAD> Message-ID: <354549.43207.qm@smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com> I have no password on my Imac as I am the only person who uses it. I have never had any problems. Usually what I do if I am asked for authentication is press Item chooser and then end . This normally land me on the OK button and just press twice to activate. David Griffith. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty Sent: 06 December 2011 05:46 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: finding ways around He may have said there is no password but from what I understand you can't set up a mac without a password. I'd ask again to be sure otherwise you may be reinstalling OSX yourself -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lovette Yewchan" Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 0:17 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: finding ways around > Hi there. The mac I have is one that was purchased from an acquaintance. > He said he cleared it all. > for me and reloaded what I needed but he says there is no password yet > I cannot make changes then lock to revent changes without a password I > don't know. > I have trouble with my y fi sometimes going to another network in the > neighbourhood and I have to keep bringing it back to mine. > Does anyone have any suggestions? > Thanks in advance. > Lovette > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 06:23:25 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 01:23:25 -0500 Subject: Reading Chat HIstory in adium References: <87A3A587-930C-4178-940C-C4981C7F9BBE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7CDE4EBF5308412F91C49C34BF7516D3@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Deb, As you explore the live chat window you'll notice an item identified as HTML. After interacting with that item, you can peruse the entire history. HTH. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Deb Lewis To: mac-access at mac-access.net Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Reading Chat HIstory in adium Hello: Would appreciate some help with adium and VO. I'm doing IRC and all is working well except that I occasionally need to read the chat history if i've missed something important. It's not in the window where the live chat is occurring and i can't find it anywhere. Have looked through the menus including all the events and I can find no evidence of it. If anyone could unravel this mystery I'd be so appreciative. Thanks!! Deb <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From support at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 06:24:39 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon, Lynne & Tracy) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:24:39 +0000 Subject: Subject Lines; gentle reminder Message-ID: <4DAA181A-4EBA-4761-B66A-320E60175AD9@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Just a gentle reminder; please use topical subject lines. Things like "Finding Ways" don't tell other members what you're asking about, and may cause somebody who could help you to not read your message. There are lots of reasons for current subject lines, so please try to be on topic if you can. I know; we've all been there and done that. But if you'd try it would be appreciated by fellow members I am sure. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 06:33:24 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:33:24 -0800 Subject: finding ways around In-Reply-To: <354549.43207.qm@smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <354549.43207.qm@smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Interesting? I hear that you must have a password on the newer operationg systemsj. I inow of someone else who does not have a password and you just hit enter. Not safe if you ask me. but if yoru person set it up wiht out a password Im sure there is a way to add one in your account? On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:19 PM, David Griffith wrote: > I have no password on my Imac as I am the only person who uses it. > I have never had any problems. Usually what I do if I am asked for > authentication is press Item chooser and then end . This normally land me on > the OK button and just press twice to activate. > > David Griffith. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty > Sent: 06 December 2011 05:46 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: finding ways around > > He may have said there is no password but from what I understand you can't > set up a mac without a password. I'd ask again to be sure otherwise you may > be reinstalling OSX yourself > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Lovette Yewchan" > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 0:17 > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Subject: finding ways around > >> Hi there. The mac I have is one that was purchased from an acquaintance. >> He said he cleared it all. >> for me and reloaded what I needed but he says there is no password yet >> I cannot make changes then lock to revent changes without a password I >> don't know. >> I have trouble with my y fi sometimes going to another network in the >> neighbourhood and I have to keep bringing it back to mine. >> Does anyone have any suggestions? >> Thanks in advance. >> Lovette >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 6552 (20111018) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 6552 (20111018) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 6552 (20111018) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 06:55:59 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:55:59 +0000 Subject: finding ways around In-Reply-To: References: <354549.43207.qm@smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <89CE1957-B140-4632-98BE-AE9B74D760FB@gmail.com> yes you go to user accounts, and then you can add a password On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Interesting? I hear that you must have a password on the newer operationg systemsj. I inow of someone else who does not have a password and you just hit enter. Not safe if you ask me. > > but if yoru person set it up wiht out a password Im sure there is a way to add one in your account? > On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:19 PM, David Griffith wrote: > >> I have no password on my Imac as I am the only person who uses it. >> I have never had any problems. Usually what I do if I am asked for >> authentication is press Item chooser and then end . This normally land me on >> the OK button and just press twice to activate. >> >> David Griffith. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >> Sent: 06 December 2011 05:46 >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: finding ways around >> >> He may have said there is no password but from what I understand you can't >> set up a mac without a password. I'd ask again to be sure otherwise you may >> be reinstalling OSX yourself >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Lovette Yewchan" >> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 0:17 >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Subject: finding ways around >> >>> Hi there. The mac I have is one that was purchased from an acquaintance. >>> He said he cleared it all. >>> for me and reloaded what I needed but he says there is no password yet >>> I cannot make changes then lock to revent changes without a password I >>> don't know. >>> I have trouble with my y fi sometimes going to another network in the >>> neighbourhood and I have to keep bringing it back to mine. >>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>> Thanks in advance. >>> Lovette >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >> database 6552 (20111018) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >> database 6552 (20111018) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >> database 6552 (20111018) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 07:00:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 23:00:27 -0800 Subject: finding ways around In-Reply-To: <89CE1957-B140-4632-98BE-AE9B74D760FB@gmail.com> References: <354549.43207.qm@smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <89CE1957-B140-4632-98BE-AE9B74D760FB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <368C448B-546B-4D9D-AD22-FEFA884925E1@gmail.com> Ah thanks for that. Forgot about that. Again thanks for the reminder. Take care. On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:55 PM, william lomas wrote: > yes you go to user accounts, and then you can add a password > > On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Interesting? I hear that you must have a password on the newer operationg systemsj. I inow of someone else who does not have a password and you just hit enter. Not safe if you ask me. >> >> but if yoru person set it up wiht out a password Im sure there is a way to add one in your account? >> On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:19 PM, David Griffith wrote: >> >>> I have no password on my Imac as I am the only person who uses it. >>> I have never had any problems. Usually what I do if I am asked for >>> authentication is press Item chooser and then end . This normally land me on >>> the OK button and just press twice to activate. >>> >>> David Griffith. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >>> Sent: 06 December 2011 05:46 >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: finding ways around >>> >>> He may have said there is no password but from what I understand you can't >>> set up a mac without a password. I'd ask again to be sure otherwise you may >>> be reinstalling OSX yourself >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Lovette Yewchan" >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 0:17 >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Subject: finding ways around >>> >>>> Hi there. The mac I have is one that was purchased from an acquaintance. >>>> He said he cleared it all. >>>> for me and reloaded what I needed but he says there is no password yet >>>> I cannot make changes then lock to revent changes without a password I >>>> don't know. >>>> I have trouble with my y fi sometimes going to another network in the >>>> neighbourhood and I have to keep bringing it back to mine. >>>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> Lovette >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >>> database 6552 (20111018) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >>> database 6552 (20111018) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >>> database 6552 (20111018) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 08:55:42 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:55:42 +0000 Subject: VMWare Fusion, anybody want help with download? In-Reply-To: <7B9BF199-4613-4B34-AF6A-92AB3FE7E277@mac-access.net> References: <715337.31616.qm@smtp818.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7B9BF199-4613-4B34-AF6A-92AB3FE7E277@mac-access.net> Message-ID: As I said, please note... I am not fully versed in windows Virtual machine systems. only hard systems. so there will be a significant change in the way that accessibility could be available through voiceover. bearing in mind that installing windows itself on a hardware system does require either sighted assistance or technical knowledge to create an unattended instance. Please don't feel I'm putting people off here on this nor put me down. that's not what I need this week. sorry. lew On 6 Dec 2011, at 00:56, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello David > > Setting up the VM is on topic. Where it goes off topic is once Windows is running, and the configuration. I hope that helps. I also agree totally with you; Lew's information is a little flawed. It's perfectly possible, even simple, for a blind person to create and maintain a virtual machines. That includes the installation of anything from 98 upwards. > > Lynne > > On 27 Nov 2011, at 21:12, David Griffith wrote: > > I am not sure that it is on topic for this list but it is perfectly possible > to install without sighted help windows 7 with vm fusion and get up and > running with NVDA. Probably a topic for the tech list though. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 08:58:57 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:58:57 +0000 Subject: finding ways around In-Reply-To: <74950E80-C0F8-4AEF-B356-5D048CB85777@telus.net> References: <74950E80-C0F8-4AEF-B356-5D048CB85777@telus.net> Message-ID: <2228C4E7-3463-4845-911F-A630EBE7DB74@mac-access.net> Hi, lovette, I'd advise a system restore. if the seller has provided you with the recovery software for the machine (OS X and the ilife system, etc) then you're good to go. I advise this for two reasons. 1: data protection 2: a clean installation is much better than an nstall where settings have been changed. I'd be happy to advise. lew On 6 Dec 2011, at 05:17, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > Hi there. The mac I have is one that was purchased from an acquaintance. He said he cleared it all. > for me and reloaded what I needed but he says there is no password yet I cannot make changes then lock to revent changes without a password I don't know. > I have trouble with my y fi sometimes going to another network in the neighbourhood and I have to keep bringing it back to mine. > Does anyone have any suggestions? > Thanks in advance. > Lovette > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Tue Dec 6 09:06:04 2011 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:06:04 +0000 Subject: Reading out characters Message-ID: Hello all, Sometimes when reading an article I want toknow how a word is spelled. What are the steps for getting voice over to read out each character, please? Thanks in advance Ian From mattchao at verizon.net Tue Dec 6 09:40:55 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 04:40:55 -0500 Subject: Connecting iPhone to PC with iTunes In-Reply-To: <105BB956-2A68-41BB-926B-5E6316C0504F@mac-access.net> References: <0LVR009EQAYWWA60@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> <68B01E00-4D11-4EE4-B46F-CB14F0132026@gmail.com> <105BB956-2A68-41BB-926B-5E6316C0504F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0LVS00E7G08ASK12@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> No problem. Then, I need to work it from the Mac side. Any ideas as to how to get the iPhone to communicate with the Mac? Thannks. Matthew Chao At 09:25 PM 12/5/2011, you wrote: >Hello Sarah & everybody > >That's totally correct. Discussing the Apple Windows apps is off >topic for this group. Sorry Matthew, but we have to be strict on this. > >Lynne > >On 6 Dec 2011, at 01:14, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >I would write to the techno chat list as we only discuss mac >operation systems here. > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Dec 6 09:58:47 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:58:47 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. Message-ID: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> Hi all, Just updated to the latest 2.67 build. I'm noticing that when I'm working on something else, as soon as a new tweet comes in focus is switched to the YoruFukurou application. In other words, whilst sending this message, several tweets have come in and I've been switched back to YoruFukurou several times. Cheers. D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From zkline at speedpost.net Tue Dec 6 10:01:24 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 02:01:24 -0800 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hi D?nal and all, I haven't noticed this at all. I've updated to 2.67 and had many new tweets and DMs come in, with no unusual switches of focus. I'd also check the App Store to make sure Growl gets updated, as they just released a new version recently as well. I"m not sure what to suggest, but it's working perfectly over here. Best, Zack. On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:58 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi all, > > Just updated to the latest 2.67 build. I'm noticing that when I'm working on something else, as soon as a new tweet comes in focus is switched to the YoruFukurou application. In other words, whilst sending this message, several tweets have come in and I've been switched back to YoruFukurou several times. > > Cheers. > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 10:18:57 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:18:57 -0500 Subject: Bad-Elf In-Reply-To: <8F9A7D834E5942B9BB7FF3454BDE4C1E@DD952WB1> References: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com><85665621-2EC3-4969-BAE0-CB1E8569E57E@gmail.com><85B64B61-92FA-4F1F-8F13-50FD1F014375@q.com><10FC6F84-A1D1-44D2-B75C-D8B72A87E759@gmail.com> <005901ccb2e5$9174fd40$b45ef7c0$@gmail.com> <8F9A7D834E5942B9BB7FF3454BDE4C1E@DD952WB1> Message-ID: <005a01ccb400$78541dc0$68fc5940$@gmail.com> Well, there is a way to close it and get to the options without closing Navigan and the the running of it slower and more slugfest than on the iphone4s is due to the fact that the iphone4s has a much better processer and other hardware. I use it on my iphone3gs and it runs just fine if I only run navigan and nothing else in the background. This is because nothing else is really using processer and memory other than normal phone operation and Vo. Yes accessibility is sort of in the beholder of the device or whatever! But for most there is a accessibility problem with navigon I use it just fine myself and really have no difficulty with it ! But I know of lots of other that is having terrible problems with it and accessibility ! I would say this is because of their ability to use technology and having a short fuse! But there is some accessibility problems. This is my thoughts and opinion and that only! Now they say to get to the options is to click on the speed dial on the device and it will bring up the options. I have not yet tried this as I have not had to use the options during the navigation and when I get to my destination I just hit the home key and then bring up the app switcher and close it out this is not hard at all an my preferred way. Yes you can do it your way you talked about and nothing wrong with that. I prefer the other way myself. Also there is unable graphic at the top left hand corner that looks like a window sort of my wife says and I can get to it with a few tries it don't say anything or really make any sound other than sort of a bonking sound and then you can double tap on it and it will bring up some options and one of them is to exit. But it is just easier to close the app totally out. Now since there is no easy way to get to options this does make a accessibility problem but nothing that cannot be worked around. But like I say this is my Opinion and my only. Other thinks like you but not many that there is no accessibility problems and the majority of the blind thinks it stinks and have reverted back to the old one if they still had it till the accessibility problems are fixed, while a few are like me and say there is accessibility problems but easily worked around. JMO ! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 2:10 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bad-Elf Perception of accessibility is subjective, however, to reiterate my prior post on this topic, I believe that for those using an iPhone 4S, Navigon 2.0 is absolutely no less accessible than the previous version. While its true that its no longer possible to cancel a route or change the speed profile while navigating without closing the app (a situation that I presume is unique to voiceOver dependent users), the trade-off is that GPS data such as velocity and coordinates have been rendered more easily readable. Thanks to Sarah, I discovered that Navigon loads in less than half the time on my 4S than on her iPhone 4. Most likely related to the load time disparity is the fact that in rather extensive testing now, I've observed no voiceOver sluggishness whatsoever. Note that it is not necessary to remove Navigon (or any app for that matter) from the app switcher in order to close it. This can also be accomplished by holding down the power button until the shutdown dialog appears and then pressing and holding home until a little beep is emitted. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: RE: Bad-Elf >I still use Navigant and the newest version it has some issue from > accessibility point but still very workable. Not as friendly as it used to > be but very workable. The biggest thing is I think is to just set up your > preface before you start your navigation and then you really don't need to > access them till you get to your destination and then all you need to do > is > close the app all the way out even out of the app switcher. HTH and JMT > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 6:19 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Bad-Elf > > Oh never mind. Waze is not one of those. Sorry about that. but hopefully > someone one else will like the app. > > good luck with using your gps cradel. > On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Desi Noller wrote: > >> Thanks so much Sarah! I don't remember seeing that one on the list, but > I'll definitely check again. It has to be an App that stores its maps on > the device, and doesn't rely on WiFi. >> >> Desi >> >> >> >> On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I am, and i use it. I hear they are aware of the vo sluggishness but >>> all > in all it is quite usable. If you double tap the speed limit thing you get > the options and stuff while you are navigating. but I would try waze if it > is on that list of apps. >>> >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Desi Noller wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sarah, >>>> >>>> Are you updated to the latest version of Navigon? That's the one I > heard people were having problems with. >>>> >>>> Desi >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Navigon is accessibil. You just have to work around some issues. It > take ssome getting used to and I use it every day for my travels. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Desi Noller wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod > Touch? It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the > most accessible with VoiceOver. I had originally thought I would use > Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, > and > I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work! Any > help > with this would be most appreciated! The Bad-Elf web site has a list of > Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one > would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed > since > Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use. >>>>>> >>>>>> Desi >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From d.griffith at btinternet.com Tue Dec 6 10:54:03 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:54:03 -0000 Subject: Reading out characters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <158898.69985.qm@smtp821.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Pressing Vo w once will read a word. Pressing Vo W twice will spell the word Pressing VO W three time will spell phonetically. Of course in an edit field, providing you have quick nav turned off you can simply use right and left cursor keys.. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Ian Harrison Sent: 06 December 2011 09:06 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Reading out characters Hello all, Sometimes when reading an article I want toknow how a word is spelled. What are the steps for getting voice over to read out each character, please? Thanks in advance Ian <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Dec 6 10:56:38 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:56:38 +0000 Subject: update to yarror. Message-ID: Hi i'm having the same problem as donnol donol are you using lion because if you are still on sno leperd like me that could be the issue. Ian McNamara From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Dec 6 10:58:05 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:58:05 +0000 Subject: update to yarror. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ian, NO I'm on Lion. D?nal On 6 Dec 2011, at 10:56, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi i'm having the same problem as donnol donol are you using lion because if you are still on sno leperd like me that could be the issue. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Dec 6 10:59:01 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:59:01 +0000 Subject: contacting YoruFukurou devs. Message-ID: Anyone have a contact address? only thing I can find is their twitter feed. D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Dec 6 10:59:56 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:59:56 +0000 Subject: update to yarror. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ok that rules that out then might try the app store verssion. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 11:01:34 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:01:34 +0100 Subject: contacting YoruFukurou devs. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8EC6C740-3E66-4C22-A86A-F80D1FF1EAD0@gmail.com> Hi D?nal You can try using yoru.fukurou at gmail.com or contact them by Twitter using @YoruFukurou I've found they're not always as responsive to either of these methods, but they usually tend to listen anyway. Regards, Nicolai On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:59 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Anyone have a contact address? only thing I can find is their twitter feed. > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Dec 6 11:03:41 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 11:03:41 +0000 Subject: contacting YoruFukurou devs. In-Reply-To: <8EC6C740-3E66-4C22-A86A-F80D1FF1EAD0@gmail.com> References: <8EC6C740-3E66-4C22-A86A-F80D1FF1EAD0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <19D7F784-285C-4DB1-8448-FF7E9704B7F7@computing.dcu.ie> Thanks Nick, I did try their twitter feed but got nothing back. Will try the gmail address. On 6 Dec 2011, at 11:01, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi D?nal > > You can try using yoru.fukurou at gmail.com or contact them by Twitter using @YoruFukurou > > I've found they're not always as responsive to either of these methods, but they usually tend to listen anyway. > > Regards, > Nicolai > On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:59 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Anyone have a contact address? only thing I can find is their twitter feed. >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 11:05:55 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:05:55 +0100 Subject: contacting YoruFukurou devs. In-Reply-To: <19D7F784-285C-4DB1-8448-FF7E9704B7F7@computing.dcu.ie> References: <8EC6C740-3E66-4C22-A86A-F80D1FF1EAD0@gmail.com> <19D7F784-285C-4DB1-8448-FF7E9704B7F7@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <53715F0B-2B99-479E-9146-2B3725CFAE03@gmail.com> Hi! As far as I know, they've still got that one. Asking them a few days ago yielded the same address as I gave you for directly contacting them, so I hope you get a response. regards, Nicolai On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:03 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Thanks Nick, I did try their twitter feed but got nothing back. Will try the gmail address. > On 6 Dec 2011, at 11:01, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi D?nal >> >> You can try using yoru.fukurou at gmail.com or contact them by Twitter using @YoruFukurou >> >> I've found they're not always as responsive to either of these methods, but they usually tend to listen anyway. >> >> Regards, >> Nicolai >> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:59 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Anyone have a contact address? only thing I can find is their twitter feed. >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Dec 6 11:17:30 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 11:17:30 +0000 Subject: contacting YoruFukurou devs. In-Reply-To: <8EC6C740-3E66-4C22-A86A-F80D1FF1EAD0@gmail.com> References: <8EC6C740-3E66-4C22-A86A-F80D1FF1EAD0@gmail.com> Message-ID: hi sent them a tweet and told them. Ian McNamara From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 11:46:03 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:46:03 -0500 Subject: iTether In-Reply-To: <734A47CE-CC0C-4F87-89AB-B6396D148963@mac-access.net> References: <83D44681-7852-4A2A-AC65-25BFE6880C9B@mac-access.net> <734A47CE-CC0C-4F87-89AB-B6396D148963@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Well, what would be nice is to make it so you could download it if you JB your device. I know they have other apps that will do the same but it would not hurt! Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:23 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iTether Hello Saraah Yes, so I gather. Sorry everybody; I was way behind on email. Lynne On 6 Dec 2011, at 01:13, Sarah Alawami wrote: No it got pulled from all the apple app stores. We even in the us don't have access to it. I just contacted he app developer and he said there's no way to download it anymore. What a shame. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 11:58:59 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:58:59 -0500 Subject: Reading out characters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, it is in the rotor it needs to be set to char . If you need to know how to use the rotor let us know. HTH ! Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Ian Harrison Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:06 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Reading out characters Hello all, Sometimes when reading an article I want toknow how a word is spelled. What are the steps for getting voice over to read out each character, please? Thanks in advance Ian <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From weavermicha at googlemail.com Tue Dec 6 14:01:08 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:01:08 +0000 Subject: the i-phone 4 s Message-ID: <4ede1daf.8872cd0a.0b8a.4ea0@mx.google.com> does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is facing up at the top? From terry.clasper at btinternet.com Tue Dec 6 13:55:31 2011 From: terry.clasper at btinternet.com (Terry Clasper) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:55:31 -0000 Subject: the i-phone 4 s In-Reply-To: <4ede1daf.8872cd0a.0b8a.4ea0@mx.google.com> References: <4ede1daf.8872cd0a.0b8a.4ea0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <002001ccb41e$b8973e80$29c5bb80$@clasper@btinternet.com> HI Michael yes indeed it does! -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver Sent: 06 December 2011 14:01 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: the i-phone 4 s does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is facing up at the top? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From deblewis53 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 14:07:46 2011 From: deblewis53 at gmail.com (Deb Lewis) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:07:46 -0800 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> There was a tech support note from Yoru about disabling growl notifications if you hadn't updated both programs. On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:01 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi D?nal and all, > I haven't noticed this at all. I've updated to 2.67 and had many new tweets and DMs come in, with no unusual switches of focus. I'd also check the App Store to make sure Growl gets updated, as they just released a new version recently as well. I"m not sure what to suggest, but it's working perfectly over here. > Best, > Zack. > On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:58 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Just updated to the latest 2.67 build. I'm noticing that when I'm working on something else, as soon as a new tweet comes in focus is switched to the YoruFukurou application. In other words, whilst sending this message, several tweets have come in and I've been switched back to YoruFukurou several times. >> >> Cheers. >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Dec 6 14:10:26 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:10:26 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't have growl installed.. On 6 Dec 2011, at 14:07, Deb Lewis wrote: > There was a tech support note from Yoru about disabling growl notifications if you hadn't updated both programs. > On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:01 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi D?nal and all, >> I haven't noticed this at all. I've updated to 2.67 and had many new tweets and DMs come in, with no unusual switches of focus. I'd also check the App Store to make sure Growl gets updated, as they just released a new version recently as well. I"m not sure what to suggest, but it's working perfectly over here. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:58 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just updated to the latest 2.67 build. I'm noticing that when I'm working on something else, as soon as a new tweet comes in focus is switched to the YoruFukurou application. In other words, whilst sending this message, several tweets have come in and I've been switched back to YoruFukurou several times. >>> >>> Cheers. >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From deblewis53 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 14:11:25 2011 From: deblewis53 at gmail.com (Deb Lewis) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:11:25 -0800 Subject: Reading Chat HIstory in adium In-Reply-To: <7CDE4EBF5308412F91C49C34BF7516D3@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <87A3A587-930C-4178-940C-C4981C7F9BBE@gmail.com> <7CDE4EBF5308412F91C49C34BF7516D3@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <3AE3428D-7753-4031-97E7-9B957951982A@gmail.com> based on the time stamp, I think I discovered this at just about the time you were writing. Never occurred to me to click on that Unknown button. It's absolutely fabulous. Thanks so much!! deb On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Deb, > > As you explore the live chat window you'll notice an item identified as HTML. After interacting with that item, you can peruse the entire history. > > HTH. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Deb Lewis > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:43 PM > Subject: Reading Chat HIstory in adium > > > Hello: > Would appreciate some help with adium and VO. I'm doing IRC and all is working well except that I occasionally need to read the chat history if i've missed something important. It's not in the window where the live chat is occurring and i can't find it anywhere. Have looked through the menus including all the events and I can find no evidence of it. If anyone could unravel this mystery I'd be so appreciative. Thanks!! > > Deb > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Dec 6 14:14:13 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:14:13 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry Deb, I hit send there before I'd finished the message. what I was trying to say was that I hadn't got Growl installed, but would disable the notification anyway. Seems to have done the trick so cheers. On 6 Dec 2011, at 14:10, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > I don't have growl installed.. > On 6 Dec 2011, at 14:07, Deb Lewis wrote: > >> There was a tech support note from Yoru about disabling growl notifications if you hadn't updated both programs. >> On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:01 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: >> >>> Hi D?nal and all, >>> I haven't noticed this at all. I've updated to 2.67 and had many new tweets and DMs come in, with no unusual switches of focus. I'd also check the App Store to make sure Growl gets updated, as they just released a new version recently as well. I"m not sure what to suggest, but it's working perfectly over here. >>> Best, >>> Zack. >>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:58 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Just updated to the latest 2.67 build. I'm noticing that when I'm working on something else, as soon as a new tweet comes in focus is switched to the YoruFukurou application. In other words, whilst sending this message, several tweets have come in and I've been switched back to YoruFukurou several times. >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 14:17:34 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:17:34 -0500 Subject: the I-phone 4 s In-Reply-To: <4ede1daf.8872cd0a.0b8a.4ea0@mx.google.com> References: <4ede1daf.8872cd0a.0b8a.4ea0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Yes, they changed nothing but the size of the camera lens on the iphone4s Everything else is the same as for as the shell is concerned. Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:01 AM To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: the i-phone 4 s does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is facing up at the top? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Dec 6 15:45:56 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 15:45:56 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <96D6FDAD-279B-4A69-9B91-8D169ED81D7D@googlemail.com> so what do we need to disable and where do we go?" From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Dec 6 16:14:51 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:14:51 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: <96D6FDAD-279B-4A69-9B91-8D169ED81D7D@googlemail.com> References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> <96D6FDAD-279B-4A69-9B91-8D169ED81D7D@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <39111410-BF13-45CF-9908-1C791397F0FE@computing.dcu.ie> Hi Ian: 1. Open the application; 2. go to preferences; 3. In the toolbar select "notifications" 4. ensure the "enable growl notification" tickbox is unchecked. cheers. Donal On 6 Dec 2011, at 15:45, Ian McNamara wrote: > so what do we need to disable and where do we go?" > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Tue Dec 6 16:36:18 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:36:18 +0000 Subject: Facebook chat instructions wasReading Chat HIstory in adium In-Reply-To: <3AE3428D-7753-4031-97E7-9B957951982A@gmail.com> References: <87A3A587-930C-4178-940C-C4981C7F9BBE@gmail.com> <7CDE4EBF5308412F91C49C34BF7516D3@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <3AE3428D-7753-4031-97E7-9B957951982A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Deb! This should be what you need to do to get Facebook chatting! hth Colin Qapla! 1. go to facebook.com and go to your account! 2. open account settings and select change user name [ even if you do not have one] 3. Facebook should give you some options and just after them will be a more link select it! 4. Now after the options Facebook gives you [I did not like the suggestions for me] there is a edit box where you can put your own name! There is a see if name is available button after you put your choice, if it is available you can have it! If not try another or add a number to the end! [ it might help] 5. When your happy come out of Facebook and open Adium! 6. In Adium on your contacts window open vo+m and go to the file menu! 7. Scroll down to add new account sub menu and arrow right, go down to Jabber and select it! 8. In the new account window is where you'll find those tabs, the first one should be selected just scroll past until you get to where you put your new user name! When you've entered it the next field is your Facebook password! 9. After filling those in go back to the options tab select and scroll to where you put the server name [ as you correctly said ] chat.facebook.com and enter it! 10. go to register new account button and press it! And you should be done! :] On 6 Dec 2011, at 14:11, Deb Lewis wrote: > based on the time stamp, I think I discovered this at just about the time you were writing. Never occurred to me to click on that Unknown button. It's absolutely fabulous. > Thanks so much!! > > deb > On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Hi Deb, >> >> As you explore the live chat window you'll notice an item identified as HTML. After interacting with that item, you can peruse the entire history. >> >> HTH. >> Geoff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Deb Lewis >> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:43 PM >> Subject: Reading Chat HIstory in adium >> >> >> Hello: >> Would appreciate some help with adium and VO. I'm doing IRC and all is working well except that I occasionally need to read the chat history if i've missed something important. It's not in the window where the live chat is occurring and i can't find it anywhere. Have looked through the menus including all the events and I can find no evidence of it. If anyone could unravel this mystery I'd be so appreciative. Thanks!! >> >> Deb >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Dec 6 16:58:17 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:58:17 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: <39111410-BF13-45CF-9908-1C791397F0FE@computing.dcu.ie> References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> <96D6FDAD-279B-4A69-9B91-8D169ED81D7D@googlemail.com> <39111410-BF13-45CF-9908-1C791397F0FE@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <25FF53D3-4C35-4830-9753-23965993055D@googlemail.com> Hi done it thanks for that yep it's working a treat for me now like normal. my twitter username is ianmcnamara if any one wants to follow me. From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Dec 6 17:14:43 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 04:14:43 +1100 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: <25FF53D3-4C35-4830-9753-23965993055D@googlemail.com> References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> <96D6FDAD-279B-4A69-9B91-8D169ED81D7D@googlemail.com> <39111410-BF13-45CF-9908-1C791397F0FE@computing.dcu.ie> <25FF53D3-4C35-4830-9753-23965993055D@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Now I have a question about this software, how do you "Follow" a user from within the software? On 07/12/2011, at 3:58 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > ianmcnamara From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Dec 6 17:31:29 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 17:31:29 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> <96D6FDAD-279B-4A69-9B91-8D169ED81D7D@googlemail.com> <39111410-BF13-45CF-9908-1C791397F0FE@computing.dcu.ie> <25FF53D3-4C35-4830-9753-23965993055D@googlemail.com> Message-ID: go as if your sending a new tweet then type the word follow then a space then the username of the person then press enter. Ian McNamara From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 17:35:35 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 17:35:35 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> <96D6FDAD-279B-4A69-9B91-8D169ED81D7D@googlemail.com> <39111410-BF13-45CF-9908-1C791397F0FE@computing.dcu.ie> <25FF53D3-4C35-4830-9753-23965993055D@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <36BA1B3A-AD71-4C85-962A-D7F5DE4DC3B4@mac-access.net> OK this is a very stupid question from an IT technician who has never used twitter... How does one go about "Twittering"? does one need a bird or something like that in order to do so? lol no seriously. what would be a decent, accessible app for OS X and where best to set up a twitter account? anything I need to know which might cause a problem voiceover wise? as I say, I've not done this before. I tend to avoid social media as it's not my cup of tea but it would help to raise the profile of this project, etc. lew On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:31, Ian McNamara wrote: > go as if your sending a new tweet then type the word follow then a space then the username of the person then press enter. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 17:42:31 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:42:31 -0800 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> <96D6FDAD-279B-4A69-9B91-8D169ED81D7D@googlemail.com> <39111410-BF13-45CF-9908-1C791397F0FE@computing.dcu.ie> <25FF53D3-4C35-4830-9753-23965993055D@googlemail.com> Message-ID: go to the drawer and hit following status once you find the user that is. Now just hit follow. or start a new tweet and type follow @username for example follow @marrie1 On Dec 6, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Now I have a question about this software, how do you "Follow" a user from within the software? > > > On 07/12/2011, at 3:58 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> ianmcnamara > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 17:43:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:43:48 -0800 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: <36BA1B3A-AD71-4C85-962A-D7F5DE4DC3B4@mac-access.net> References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> <96D6FDAD-279B-4A69-9B91-8D169ED81D7D@googlemail.com> <39111410-BF13-45CF-9908-1C791397F0FE@computing.dcu.ie> <25FF53D3-4C35-4830-9753-23965993055D@googlemail.com> <36BA1B3A-AD71-4C85-962A-D7F5DE4DC3B4@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0AB8AC83-B1D7-45A1-A2A9-CC309E0986FF@gmail.com> Set it up at http://twitter.com. and use yorufukurou. It should be straight forward from there. Read the tips and set up your notifications from http://twitter.com. I have 3 twitter accounts, actually 4 and I use them all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 6, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > OK this is a very stupid question from an IT technician who has never used twitter... > > How does one go about "Twittering"? > > does one need a bird or something like that in order to do so? lol > > no seriously. what would be a decent, accessible app for OS X and where best to set up a twitter account? anything I need to know which might cause a problem voiceover wise? > > as I say, I've not done this before. I tend to avoid social media as it's not my cup of tea but it would help to raise the profile of this project, etc. > > lew > > On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:31, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> go as if your sending a new tweet then type the word follow then a space then the username of the person then press enter. >> >> Ian McNamara >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 17:44:38 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:44:38 -0800 Subject: contacting YoruFukurou devs. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3C0B60D6-F1F6-4EEE-A671-EF5B7E00F958@gmail.com> Yeah. akihiro.nog at gmail.com yoru.fukurou at gmail.com Take care. On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:59 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Anyone have a contact address? only thing I can find is their twitter feed. > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 17:45:02 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 17:45:02 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou: don't update. In-Reply-To: <0AB8AC83-B1D7-45A1-A2A9-CC309E0986FF@gmail.com> References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> <96D6FDAD-279B-4A69-9B91-8D169ED81D7D@googlemail.com> <39111410-BF13-45CF-9908-1C791397F0FE@computing.dcu.ie> <25FF53D3-4C35-4830-9753-23965993055D@googlemail.com> <36BA1B3A-AD71-4C85-962A-D7F5DE4DC3B4@mac-access.net> <0AB8AC83-B1D7-45A1-A2A9-CC309E0986FF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49D6D9C7-C896-40DA-842B-4C1A11505420@mac-access.net> sarah you're an angel. bless you. just the person to put a smile on my face lol. wading my way through a parts list lol. lew On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:43, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Set it up at http://twitter.com. and use yorufukurou. It should be straight forward from there. Read the tips and set up your notifications from http://twitter.com. > > I have 3 twitter accounts, actually 4 and I use them all. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Dec 6, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> OK this is a very stupid question from an IT technician who has never used twitter... >> >> How does one go about "Twittering"? >> >> does one need a bird or something like that in order to do so? lol >> >> no seriously. what would be a decent, accessible app for OS X and where best to set up a twitter account? anything I need to know which might cause a problem voiceover wise? >> >> as I say, I've not done this before. I tend to avoid social media as it's not my cup of tea but it would help to raise the profile of this project, etc. >> >> lew >> >> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:31, Ian McNamara wrote: >> >>> go as if your sending a new tweet then type the word follow then a space then the username of the person then press enter. >>> >>> Ian McNamara >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 17:45:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:45:29 -0800 Subject: Connecting iPhone to PC with iTunes In-Reply-To: <0LVS00E7G08ASK12@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0LVR009EQAYWWA60@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> <68B01E00-4D11-4EE4-B46F-CB14F0132026@gmail.com> <105BB956-2A68-41BB-926B-5E6316C0504F@mac-access.net> <0LVS00E7G08ASK12@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: What happens when you connect the phone to the mac and iTunes? it should just come up with no problems. On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > No problem. Then, I need to work it from the Mac side. Any ideas as to how to get the iPhone to communicate with the Mac? Thanks. > > Matthew Chao > > At 09:25 PM 12/5/2011, you wrote: >> Hello Sarah & everybody >> >> That's totally correct. Discussing the Apple Windows apps is off topic for this group. Sorry Matthew, but we have to be strict on this. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 6 Dec 2011, at 01:14, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >> I would write to the techno chat list as we only discuss mac operation systems here. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Tue Dec 6 18:24:26 2011 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:24:26 -0800 Subject: finding ways around In-Reply-To: <2228C4E7-3463-4845-911F-A630EBE7DB74@mac-access.net> References: <74950E80-C0F8-4AEF-B356-5D048CB85777@telus.net> <2228C4E7-3463-4845-911F-A630EBE7DB74@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Unfortunately I do not have any softwre or backup. He apparently did reformate and rreinstall things. I wish I knew now what I did not when I got the lap top. I love the mac now but feel awkward about this password thing. Lovette On 2011-12-06, at 12:58 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > Hi, lovette, > > I'd advise a system restore. if the seller has provided you with the recovery software for the machine (OS X and the ilife system, etc) then you're good to go. > > I advise this for two reasons. 1: data protection 2: a clean installation is much better than an nstall where settings have been changed. I'd be happy to advise. > > lew > > On 6 Dec 2011, at 05:17, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > >> Hi there. The mac I have is one that was purchased from an acquaintance. He said he cleared it all. >> for me and reloaded what I needed but he says there is no password yet I cannot make changes then lock to revent changes without a password I don't know. >> I have trouble with my y fi sometimes going to another network in the neighbourhood and I have to keep bringing it back to mine. >> Does anyone have any suggestions? >> Thanks in advance. >> Lovette >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Tue Dec 6 18:28:55 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:28:55 +0000 Subject: finding ways around In-Reply-To: References: <74950E80-C0F8-4AEF-B356-5D048CB85777@telus.net> <2228C4E7-3463-4845-911F-A630EBE7DB74@mac-access.net> Message-ID: OK let's see what can be done here. you say that when you try to make system changes and need to lock or unlock and it asks for a password. stupid question but did you try just hitting enter on the password. there's a chance there's no password but it always asks for one as normal, no matter whether you log in or anything else. if your system wasn't set up with a password then you are ok. if there is a system password, then it's time to break out the big guns... Ladies.... Shall we dance? let the password testing begin. lew On 6 Dec 2011, at 18:24, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > Unfortunately I do not have any softwre or backup. He apparently did reformate and rreinstall things. I wish I knew now what I did not when I got the lap top. I love the mac now but feel awkward about this password thing. > Lovette > > On 2011-12-06, at 12:58 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> Hi, lovette, >> >> I'd advise a system restore. if the seller has provided you with the recovery software for the machine (OS X and the ilife system, etc) then you're good to go. >> >> I advise this for two reasons. 1: data protection 2: a clean installation is much better than an nstall where settings have been changed. I'd be happy to advise. >> >> lew >> >> On 6 Dec 2011, at 05:17, Lovette Yewchan wrote: >> >>> Hi there. The mac I have is one that was purchased from an acquaintance. He said he cleared it all. >>> for me and reloaded what I needed but he says there is no password yet I cannot make changes then lock to revent changes without a password I don't know. >>> I have trouble with my y fi sometimes going to another network in the neighbourhood and I have to keep bringing it back to mine. >>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>> Thanks in advance. >>> Lovette >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Dec 6 18:46:07 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:46:07 +0000 Subject: Watch subject lines (was: YoruFukurou: don't update.+ In-Reply-To: References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> <96D6FDAD-279B-4A69-9B91-8D169ED81D7D@googlemail.com> <39111410-BF13-45CF-9908-1C791397F0FE@computing.dcu.ie> <25FF53D3-4C35-4830-9753-23965993055D@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <9328475F-63EA-40E4-AF29-58812CCF9E48@computing.dcu.ie> Folks, Wearing another hat for a second, can we watch the subject line on this one please? In the interests of maintaining nice, searchable archives can we bring this thread back to whether or not to update the software in question, or change the subject line to reflect the content now under discussion. Thanks a lot, D?nal On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:14, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Now I have a question about this software, how do you "Follow" a user from within the software? > > > On 07/12/2011, at 3:58 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> ianmcnamara > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From deblewis53 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 21:19:12 2011 From: deblewis53 at gmail.com (Deb Lewis) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:19:12 -0800 Subject: Facebook chat instructions wasReading Chat HIstory in adium In-Reply-To: References: <87A3A587-930C-4178-940C-C4981C7F9BBE@gmail.com> <7CDE4EBF5308412F91C49C34BF7516D3@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <3AE3428D-7753-4031-97E7-9B957951982A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Excellent. I already had the short name for facebook so was able to skip down to setting it up in Adium. Works like a charm. On 12/6/11, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Deb! > This should be what you need to do to get Facebook chatting! > hth Colin > Qapla! > 1. go to facebook.com and go to your account! > 2. open account settings and select change user name [ even if you do not > have one] > 3. Facebook should give you some options and just after them will be a more > link select it! > 4. Now after the options Facebook gives you [I did not like the suggestions > for me] there is a edit box where you can put your own name! > There is a see if name is available button after you put your choice, if it > is available you can have it! > If not try another or add a number to the end! [ it might help] > 5. When your happy come out of Facebook and open Adium! > 6. In Adium on your contacts window open vo+m and go to the file menu! > 7. Scroll down to add new account sub menu and arrow right, go down to > Jabber and select it! > 8. In the new account window is where you'll find those tabs, the first one > should be selected just scroll past until you get to where you put your new > user name! > When you've entered it the next field is your Facebook password! > 9. After filling those in go back to the options tab select and scroll to > where you put the server name [ as you correctly said ] chat.facebook.com > and enter it! > 10. go to register new account button and press it! > And you should be done! :] > On 6 Dec 2011, at 14:11, Deb Lewis wrote: > >> based on the time stamp, I think I discovered this at just about the time >> you were writing. Never occurred to me to click on that Unknown button. >> It's absolutely fabulous. >> Thanks so much!! >> >> deb >> On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >>> Hi Deb, >>> >>> As you explore the live chat window you'll notice an item identified as >>> HTML. After interacting with that item, you can peruse the entire >>> history. >>> >>> HTH. >>> Geoff >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Deb Lewis >>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:43 PM >>> Subject: Reading Chat HIstory in adium >>> >>> >>> Hello: >>> Would appreciate some help with adium and VO. I'm doing IRC and all is >>> working well except that I occasionally need to read the chat history if >>> i've missed something important. It's not in the window where the live >>> chat is occurring and i can't find it anywhere. Have looked through the >>> menus including all the events and I can find no evidence of it. If >>> anyone could unravel this mystery I'd be so appreciative. Thanks!! >>> >>> Deb >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > -- Find me on: Twitter: http://twitter.com/deblewis53 Facebook: http://facebook.com/deblewis53 WWW: http://therideradio.net From desiandcandy at q.com Tue Dec 6 23:30:20 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:30:20 -0700 Subject: Bad-Elf In-Reply-To: <005901ccb2e5$9174fd40$b45ef7c0$@gmail.com> References: <12619CB8-2A30-472A-87A7-1DE2A3100749@q.com> <85665621-2EC3-4969-BAE0-CB1E8569E57E@gmail.com> <85B64B61-92FA-4F1F-8F13-50FD1F014375@q.com> <10FC6F84-A1D1-44D2-B75C-D8B72A87E759@gmail.com> <005901ccb2e5$9174fd40$b45ef7c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks so much Bubba! I'm now working with the Bad-Elf people to see if there is a solution, so I'll let you know if I find one! Desi On Dec 4, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Bubba wrote: > I still use Navigant and the newest version it has some issue from > accessibility point but still very workable. Not as friendly as it used to > be but very workable. The biggest thing is I think is to just set up your > preface before you start your navigation and then you really don't need to > access them till you get to your destination and then all you need to do is > close the app all the way out even out of the app switcher. HTH and JMT > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 6:19 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Bad-Elf > > Oh never mind. Waze is not one of those. Sorry about that. but hopefully > someone one else will like the app. > > good luck with using your gps cradel. > On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Desi Noller wrote: > >> Thanks so much Sarah! I don't remember seeing that one on the list, but > I'll definitely check again. It has to be an App that stores its maps on > the device, and doesn't rely on WiFi. >> >> Desi >> >> >> >> On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I am, and i use it. I hear they are aware of the vo sluggishness but all > in all it is quite usable. If you double tap the speed limit thing you get > the options and stuff while you are navigating. but I would try waze if it > is on that list of apps. >>> >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Desi Noller wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sarah, >>>> >>>> Are you updated to the latest version of Navigon? That's the one I > heard people were having problems with. >>>> >>>> Desi >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Navigon is accessibil. You just have to work around some issues. It > take ssome getting used to and I use it every day for my travels. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Desi Noller wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod > Touch? It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the > most accessible with VoiceOver. I had originally thought I would use > Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, and > I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work! Any help > with this would be most appreciated! The Bad-Elf web site has a list of > Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one > would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed since > Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use. >>>>>> >>>>>> Desi >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Wed Dec 7 02:53:44 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (G.E.) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 20:53:44 -0600 Subject: the i-phone 4 s References: <4ede1daf.8872cd0a.0b8a.4ea0@mx.google.com> <4ede1ee1.2302440a.4c5a.ffffee48SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Also, I want to make sure, does the iPhone 4S only have a 5 mega pixel camera, like my 4G? If so, I will not upgrade until the iPhone 5 comes out next spring. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Clasper" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: RE: the i-phone 4 s HI Michael yes indeed it does! -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver Sent: 06 December 2011 14:01 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: the i-phone 4 s does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is facing up at the top? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Wed Dec 7 03:06:35 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 22:06:35 -0500 Subject: Cable needed for dock connection In-Reply-To: References: <9899DD6C-B502-4103-98AF-620269A2425F@Mac-Access.net> <65A45781-2087-4755-9AAE-A825747729C0@tznet.com> Message-ID: <3C00C84A-9FAE-47F1-90F7-9620591EF1C9@Mac-Access.net> Esther, John and others, I just wanted to follow up with all those who sent me in the right direction to get the cable Jive dock extender cable. I did get it from Amazon US and got the premium as Esther suggested. It works great with the Otter box. It also works well with not only my Sony dock but also it turns out I need it to use my car charger as that did not fit my case as well. The cable seems well made and sturdy. I actually prefer using the cable even with my old 3GS and the doc even though the 3GS can go directly onto the doc. I like to just hold it in my hand to use rather then poking at it sitting in the dock tray. Thanks again to everyone for this tip and I highly recommend it for anyone who has a otter box or who wants to use a doc without setting the phone in the often delicate trey. eric Caron On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Eric, > > Yes, the term you are looking for is "Dock extension or extender cable". Cable Jive makes these specifically for all the people who have Otterbox cases, and for whom other dock extension cables don't work because of the narrow opening of the Otterbox cases. (If you read the fine print, they'll often say that their cables work for all cases except the Otterbox cases.) Geoff Waaler ordered one of these directly from CableJive when he had to be on a waiting list before the first batch was produced well over a year ago. In addition to the dockXtender product that came out in May 2010 in two lengths, they have a new product introduced this September called the CableJive dockBoss+ that is designed to let you use Docks with Android and other non-iPhone players as well. It has both a 30-pin connecter for iPhone/iPod/iPad docks, and also a standard micro USB plug and 3.5mm audio plug for Android and other phones. The dockBoss+ is mostly likely to be of interest for people who hav > e Android and other devicess that they also want to use with iPhone speaker docks. > > CableJive also sells other specially long (or short) dock cables. Geoff mentioned that he had to negotiate a CAPTCHA to buy his dock eXtender cables from the site over a year ago. I don't know whether that is still true. You can also buy these from Amazon (U.S.), but make sure the product is named something like "CableJive dockXtender Premium Extension Cable for iPhone, iPod, iPad (Black, 2ft.)" or similar title with the 6 ft. length, so you get the cable that is compatible with the Otterbox, and not the older cables that are compatible with every case except for the Otterbox. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Nov 8, 2011, at 16:35, John Gunn wrote: > >> >> >> Go to cablejive.com and you'll find your cable. >> >> You have 2 lengths to choose from, 2 foot or 6 foot. >> >> Let me know if you aren't unable to locate it. >> >> John >> >> Erick: >> On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >>> Hello list, >>> >>> I'm not sure how to google this question so I'm going to start with you good folks and see if anyone has a suggestion. I have a sony dock and have had problems connecting my iPhone 3GS and now can't connect my 4S because it is in a Otter Box case. Is there such a thing as a cable that connects to the apple connector on the dock and then to the phone? I'd be perfectly happy to set the phone near the dock rather then in the somewhat fragile holder. Also I can't be bothered to take the phone out of the Otter box case. >>> >>> So does such a cable exist? Any one have a suggestion as the name it is called so I can find it? >>> >>> tips appreciated. >>> >>> Oh! one other comment, my 3GS has a crack in the case near the connector. I'm pretty sure this happened in the dock despite my efforts to be careful. I think the cable connector would be a better option for me. Also, I don't want to just use the aux input as that won't give me the ability to charge the phone while connected. >>> >>> >>> thanks for your ideas. >>> >>> eric Caron > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Wed Dec 7 03:15:43 2011 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:15:43 -0800 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?misi=F3n_contro_?= Message-ID: <7B476FB7-CAB2-494F-8E50-21A7E9579C67@telus.net> Hi there. I am finding hat as I use curser keys to read things that the mission control keeps coming up. DOes anyone have ideas how to stop this? Thanks. Lovette From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Wed Dec 7 03:55:45 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 03:55:45 +0000 Subject: uploading to youtube. Message-ID: Hi all what's the easyest way to upload to youtube with the mac bare in mind i've got no vission so need to be able to do it with voice over smiley. thanks very much. Ian McNamara From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 04:00:12 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 23:00:12 -0500 Subject: the i-phone 4 s References: <4ede1daf.8872cd0a.0b8a.4ea0@mx.google.com><4ede1ee1.2302440a.4c5a.ffffee48SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <0C03444BC6FE45BA88E0B47B8C2D9499@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Glenn, The diameter of the 4S lends was increased along with a nearly tripling in resolution (8MP vs 5MP). To help explain why 8 is nearly three times greater than 5, remember your exponents and consider a square inch with five dots per inch. You would need 25 dots (5*5) to fill that space. Now, if you wanna increase the resolution to 8 DPI you'd need to come up with 64 pixels instead. Because of this change in specs, a case designed for use with an iPhone 4 will not work for a 4S unless you don't mind black edges around your pics. Conversely, a 4 will fit a 4S case since the only difference would be a larger aperture hole. HTH. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: G.E. To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:53 PM Subject: Re: the i-phone 4 s Also, I want to make sure, does the iPhone 4S only have a 5 mega pixel camera, like my 4G? If so, I will not upgrade until the iPhone 5 comes out next spring. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Clasper" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: RE: the i-phone 4 s HI Michael yes indeed it does! -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver Sent: 06 December 2011 14:01 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: the i-phone 4 s does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is facing up at the top? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 04:50:28 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 23:50:28 -0500 Subject: Navigon accessibility -> was bad-Elf. Message-ID: <7011AB001CCC477DA6F4F327CD4878EA@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Well, thanks much for the insight into the source of your information if nothing else. Generally, if I'm walking in the rain and others tell me the sun is shining, I will go with what I can share from personal experience, and accordingly suggest a rain coat. Now I know that when you say JMT, you are in reality sharing what you read on other lists from people who may or may not have conducted their own investigation. For the benefit of those who may have recently joined, or just became interested in Navigon, I will repost my initial findings after installing version 2, since I for one would not have understood the instructions below unless I already knew what the person was attempting to convey. On Nov 18, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings y'all, This afternoon I took a trip via Para transit. I pulled the destination up in favorites, set the route type to "car" and started navigation. There were a couple other pick-ups/drop-offs along the way, resulting in the need for a lot of rerouting. Throughout the nearly 50 minute trip, Navigon continuously gave directions even though I was concurrently streaming Audio, reading eMail and playing with Ariadne GPS just for good measure. Navigon was rarely ever in the foreground. While in the foreground, however, I discovered that double tapping the speed indicator, located in the top center of the main Navigon routing Window just below the status line consistently presented a dialog where I have the option of quitting the route, adding an interim destination, and several other choices. It was only a matter of time, but while Navigon 2.0 includes current maps, it now requires a $15 in-app purchase in order to receive quarterly updates (the duration was unspecified, but I would presume it's yearly?). Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:02 PM Subject: Re: My results using Navigon NorthAmerica v2 on a 4S. > Hmm interesting. I still don't like it. I have a live journal finding at > http://marrie12.livejournal.com and voice over still slows to a crawl > after about 4 or 5 minutes of use. This to me is not acceptable. I also > hacve an audio boo posting at http://audioboo.fm/marrie1 showing this as > well. I wish they would fix this. ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Waaler To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: My results using Navigon NorthAmerica v2 on a 4S. Hi Sarah and list, Your LiveJournal post was very well done and may serve as an excellent resource for anyone who is having trouble getting started. I listened to your Audio demo several times, and followed along, even to the point of adding my nearest Subway to my favorites. First of all, there is a huge disparity in our load times. I counted about 13 seconds until Navigon loaded for you. On mine I hear two double beeps instead of one. The first occurs after about four seconds and the second is emitted two seconds later when Navigon is completely launched. I would therefore conclude that my load time is about 44% of what you're seeing. Perhaps this accounts for my lack of sluggishness. I am not observing any crashes or slowdowns whatsoever. I will continue to watch this because if a memory leak accounts for this, I too should be bitten by that bug eventually regardless of the faster processor. Upon further testing, I need to correct one of my observations from my prior post in this thread. Though I can reliably cancel a route, this will place me into a navigation window where I can display GPS data. I can not enter another destination without first relaunching Navigon. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Bubba To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:18 AM Subject: RE: Bad-Elf Well, there is a way to close it and get to the options without closing Navigan and the the running of it slower and more slugfest than on the iphone4s is due to the fact that the iphone4s has a much better processer and other hardware. I use it on my iphone3gs and it runs just fine if I only run navigan and nothing else in the background. This is because nothing else is really using processer and memory other than normal phone operation and Vo. Yes accessibility is sort of in the beholder of the device or whatever! But for most there is a accessibility problem with navigon I use it just fine myself and really have no difficulty with it ! But I know of lots of other that is having terrible problems with it and accessibility ! I would say this is because of their ability to use technology and having a short fuse! But there is some accessibility problems. This is my thoughts and opinion and that only! Now they say to get to the options is to click on the speed dial on the device and it will bring up the options. I have not yet tried this as I have not had to use the options during the navigation and when I get to my destination I just hit the home key and then bring up the app switcher and close it out this is not hard at all an my preferred way. Yes you can do it your way you talked about and nothing wrong with that. I prefer the other way myself. Also there is unable graphic at the top left hand corner that looks like a window sort of my wife says and I can get to it with a few tries it don't say anything or really make any sound other than sort of a bonking sound and then you can double tap on it and it will bring up some options and one of them is to exit. But it is just easier to close the app totally out. Now since there is no easy way to get to options this does make a accessibility problem but nothing that cannot be worked around. But like I say this is my Opinion and my only. Other thinks like you but not many that there is no accessibility problems and the majority of the blind thinks it stinks and have reverted back to the old one if they still had it till the accessibility problems are fixed, while a few are like me and say there is accessibility problems but easily worked around. JMO ! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 2:10 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bad-Elf Perception of accessibility is subjective, however, to reiterate my prior post on this topic, I believe that for those using an iPhone 4S, Navigon 2.0 is absolutely no less accessible than the previous version. While its true that its no longer possible to cancel a route or change the speed profile while navigating without closing the app (a situation that I presume is unique to voiceOver dependent users), the trade-off is that GPS data such as velocity and coordinates have been rendered more easily readable. Thanks to Sarah, I discovered that Navigon loads in less than half the time on my 4S than on her iPhone 4. Most likely related to the load time disparity is the fact that in rather extensive testing now, I've observed no voiceOver sluggishness whatsoever. Note that it is not necessary to remove Navigon (or any app for that matter) from the app switcher in order to close it. This can also be accomplished by holding down the power button until the shutdown dialog appears and then pressing and holding home until a little beep is emitted. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: RE: Bad-Elf >I still use Navigant and the newest version it has some issue from > accessibility point but still very workable. Not as friendly as it used to > be but very workable. The biggest thing is I think is to just set up your > preface before you start your navigation and then you really don't need to > access them till you get to your destination and then all you need to do > is > close the app all the way out even out of the app switcher. HTH and JMT > > > Bubba From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 04:59:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 20:59:27 -0800 Subject: uploading to youtube. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello. click the final choose files button with vo shift space and then cmd tab away from and back to safari after you hear choose file. what about 5 seconds between the cmd tabs. Now choose your movie and make your edits. The category thing is not accessible with safari anymore as far as I can tell. I dunno what they did to change that and I hope they fixed it in today's maintenance. Take care. On Dec 6, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi all what's the easyest way to upload to youtube with the mac bare in mind i've got no vission so need to be able to do it with voice over smiley. > > thanks very much. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 05:00:07 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 21:00:07 -0800 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_misi=F3n_contro_?= In-Reply-To: <7B476FB7-CAB2-494F-8E50-21A7E9579C67@telus.net> References: <7B476FB7-CAB2-494F-8E50-21A7E9579C67@telus.net> Message-ID: You stop them by going to system prefs and then to keyboard and unchecking all of the mission control check boxes under the short cuts tab I believe.. Take care. On Dec 6, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > Hi there. I am finding hat as I use curser keys to read things that the mission control keeps coming up. DOes anyone have ideas how to stop this? > Thanks. > Lovette > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cfgolding at comcast.net Wed Dec 7 05:00:25 2011 From: cfgolding at comcast.net (Catherine Golding) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 21:00:25 -0800 Subject: Accumulating desktops Message-ID: <008c01ccb49d$228294b0$6787be10$@net> I seem to be collecting desktops numbered 1 through 4. How am I doing that? And secondly, is there a way to get rid of dashboard and/or mission control? Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 05:45:52 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 21:45:52 -0800 Subject: Accumulating desktops In-Reply-To: <008c01ccb49d$228294b0$6787be10$@net> References: <008c01ccb49d$228294b0$6787be10$@net> Message-ID: <269F67D1-4B40-4BA2-A22D-8FDFF1CDDED6@gmail.com> You can disable them in the keyboard prefs I believe. It's been a bit long since I did this so I might need a refresher course as well lol! On Dec 6, 2011, at 9:00 PM, Catherine Golding wrote: > I seem to be collecting desktops numbered 1 through 4. How am I doing that? > And secondly, is there a way to get rid of dashboard and/or mission > control? > > > > Catherine Golding > > Olympia, Washington > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 08:50:05 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 03:50:05 -0500 Subject: the I-phone 4 s Message-ID: <002e01ccb4bd$382f3be0$a88db3a0$@gmail.com> Hi, well there is not a iphone4g but I assume you mean iphone4 and yes the iphone4s has a much better camera. It has a 8 mega pix camera and the iphone4 has a 5 mega pix one. Also the iphone4s has a much bigger lens and other hardware with in the camera that makes it a much better camera also don't forget the processer is much better and that is a bigger issue then the camera. It has the same amount of ram but I think faster ram and you can also if you wish to do so get more storage up to 64 gb and this is a much bigger issue for some than the camera! Also you have the new voice command and to most this is the biggest reason to upgrade ! So for the upgrade issue there are plenty of reason to upgrade if your contract is up and especially if you still have the iphone3gs! HTH and JST ! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of G.E. Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:54 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: the i-phone 4 s Also, I want to make sure, does the iPhone 4S only have a 5 mega pixel camera, like my 4G? If so, I will not upgrade until the iPhone 5 comes out next spring. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Clasper" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: RE: the i-phone 4 s HI Michael yes indeed it does! -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver Sent: 06 December 2011 14:01 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: the i-phone 4 s does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is facing up at the top? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Wed Dec 7 09:01:23 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:01:23 +0000 Subject: the I-phone 4 s In-Reply-To: <002e01ccb4bd$382f3be0$a88db3a0$@gmail.com> References: <002e01ccb4bd$382f3be0$a88db3a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey bubba, that sounds like a decent plan to me. I still have the 3GS and to be honest, for what I use it for, it does a great job. I don't use it for the internet etc as I'm not a fan of using internet on small touch screen interfaces with big fingers like mine. other than that, the 4S sounds like a worthwhile investment.... justifying the price though seems a bit of a thing. ?500 pay and go and we're waiting for o2 to release as pay and go. I don't like contracts as it's just something that I've had a very bad experience with some years back. As always, it's an amazing product and I love the feel of it. I do have to admit one thing though. I wish the iphone was a bit larger and thicker. Excuse the rant but here goes. woof woof woof! These days, it's all about making a product really thin and light, but to someone like me, I prefer something more rugged and thicker, weight's not an issue but a larger device would suit better (not iPad size but say another 1" either dimension would give some extra surface to work on and just a bit more room. just a thought. I love the 3GS to bits but as I say, I don't use internet on it. I prefer my laptop to that anyday. just wish apple would give us the freedom of tethering for the iphone to mac. then guys like me in the IT sector can still have a modem for on road use or emergency work, etc. nice review bubba and keep it up lol lew (off to bangor for a bit to pick up a laptop of great interest. woopee!) On 7 Dec 2011, at 08:50, Bubba wrote: > Hi, well there is not a iphone4g but I assume you mean iphone4 and yes the > iphone4s has a much better camera. It has a 8 mega pix camera and the > iphone4 has a 5 mega pix one. Also the iphone4s has a much bigger lens and > other hardware with in the camera that makes it a much better camera also > don't forget the processer is much better and that is a bigger issue then > the camera. It has the same amount of ram but I think faster ram and you can > also if you wish to do so get more storage up to 64 gb and this is a much > bigger issue for some than the camera! Also you have the new voice command > and to most this is the biggest reason to upgrade ! So for the upgrade issue > there are plenty of reason to upgrade if your contract is up and especially > if you still have the iphone3gs! HTH and JST ! > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 09:21:52 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 04:21:52 -0500 Subject: Navigant accessibility -> was bad-Elf. Message-ID: <003801ccb4c1$a8fa8560$faef9020$@gmail.com> If you don't have the new version installed how can you say anything about the new version one way other on accessibility or anything else! First install the new version then talk about it. I understood the poster very well below but I have the new version installed. Where you don't and the poster was posting for those that have it the new version not people that don't have it or Navigant at all. Also it does when raining sometimes the sun will shine so better take that raincoat with you all the time! But I understand if you have never seen in your life and have to depend on what someone said that you would think if it is raining the sun is not shining . But take it from someone that has been a seeing person most of his 53 years on this earth that the sun does shine sometimes in the rain and sometimes the moon does not shine at night and just because something is wet does not mean it is water and just because something is cold does not mean it is ice! I still very lucky still have a little vision in my right eye enough to see if the sun is shining in the rain and knowing I have an ice cube in my hand without asking someone this is cold and wet is it ice! But this is OT and if you want to take this up off list I will be more than glad to tell you about what it was like and is like to see some! This is my JMT and JMO and it is not from hearsay! JMT ! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:50 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Navigon accessibility -> was bad-Elf. Well, thanks much for the insight into the source of your information if nothing else. Generally, if I'm walking in the rain and others tell me the sun is shining, I will go with what I can share from personal experience, and accordingly suggest a rain coat. Now I know that when you say JMT, you are in reality sharing what you read on other lists from people who may or may not have conducted their own investigation. For the benefit of those who may have recently joined, or just became interested in Navigon, I will repost my initial findings after installing version 2, since I for one would not have understood the instructions below unless I already knew what the person was attempting to convey. On Nov 18, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings y'all, This afternoon I took a trip via Para transit. I pulled the destination up in favorites, set the route type to "car" and started navigation. There were a couple other pick-ups/drop-offs along the way, resulting in the need for a lot of rerouting. Throughout the nearly 50 minute trip, Navigon continuously gave directions even though I was concurrently streaming Audio, reading eMail and playing with Ariadne GPS just for good measure. Navigon was rarely ever in the foreground. While in the foreground, however, I discovered that double tapping the speed indicator, located in the top center of the main Navigon routing Window just below the status line consistently presented a dialog where I have the option of quitting the route, adding an interim destination, and several other choices. It was only a matter of time, but while Navigon 2.0 includes current maps, it now requires a $15 in-app purchase in order to receive quarterly updates (the duration was unspecified, but I would presume it's yearly?). Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:02 PM Subject: Re: My results using Navigon NorthAmerica v2 on a 4S. > Hmm interesting. I still don't like it. I have a live journal finding at > http://marrie12.livejournal.com and voice over still slows to a crawl > after about 4 or 5 minutes of use. This to me is not acceptable. I also > hacve an audio boo posting at http://audioboo.fm/marrie1 showing this as > well. I wish they would fix this. ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Waaler To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: My results using Navigon NorthAmerica v2 on a 4S. Hi Sarah and list, Your LiveJournal post was very well done and may serve as an excellent resource for anyone who is having trouble getting started. I listened to your Audio demo several times, and followed along, even to the point of adding my nearest Subway to my favorites. First of all, there is a huge disparity in our load times. I counted about 13 seconds until Navigon loaded for you. On mine I hear two double beeps instead of one. The first occurs after about four seconds and the second is emitted two seconds later when Navigon is completely launched. I would therefore conclude that my load time is about 44% of what you're seeing. Perhaps this accounts for my lack of sluggishness. I am not observing any crashes or slowdowns whatsoever. I will continue to watch this because if a memory leak accounts for this, I too should be bitten by that bug eventually regardless of the faster processor. Upon further testing, I need to correct one of my observations from my prior post in this thread. Though I can reliably cancel a route, this will place me into a navigation window where I can display GPS data. I can not enter another destination without first relaunching Navigon. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Bubba To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:18 AM Subject: RE: Bad-Elf Well, there is a way to close it and get to the options without closing Navigan and the the running of it slower and more slugfest than on the iphone4s is due to the fact that the iphone4s has a much better processer and other hardware. I use it on my iphone3gs and it runs just fine if I only run navigan and nothing else in the background. This is because nothing else is really using processer and memory other than normal phone operation and Vo. Yes accessibility is sort of in the beholder of the device or whatever! But for most there is a accessibility problem with navigon I use it just fine myself and really have no difficulty with it ! But I know of lots of other that is having terrible problems with it and accessibility ! I would say this is because of their ability to use technology and having a short fuse! But there is some accessibility problems. This is my thoughts and opinion and that only! Now they say to get to the options is to click on the speed dial on the device and it will bring up the options. I have not yet tried this as I have not had to use the options during the navigation and when I get to my destination I just hit the home key and then bring up the app switcher and close it out this is not hard at all an my preferred way. Yes you can do it your way you talked about and nothing wrong with that. I prefer the other way myself. Also there is unable graphic at the top left hand corner that looks like a window sort of my wife says and I can get to it with a few tries it don't say anything or really make any sound other than sort of a bonking sound and then you can double tap on it and it will bring up some options and one of them is to exit. But it is just easier to close the app totally out. Now since there is no easy way to get to options this does make a accessibility problem but nothing that cannot be worked around. But like I say this is my Opinion and my only. Other thinks like you but not many that there is no accessibility problems and the majority of the blind thinks it stinks and have reverted back to the old one if they still had it till the accessibility problems are fixed, while a few are like me and say there is accessibility problems but easily worked around. JMO ! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 2:10 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bad-Elf Perception of accessibility is subjective, however, to reiterate my prior post on this topic, I believe that for those using an iPhone 4S, Navigon 2.0 is absolutely no less accessible than the previous version. While its true that its no longer possible to cancel a route or change the speed profile while navigating without closing the app (a situation that I presume is unique to voiceOver dependent users), the trade-off is that GPS data such as velocity and coordinates have been rendered more easily readable. Thanks to Sarah, I discovered that Navigon loads in less than half the time on my 4S than on her iPhone 4. Most likely related to the load time disparity is the fact that in rather extensive testing now, I've observed no voiceOver sluggishness whatsoever. Note that it is not necessary to remove Navigon (or any app for that matter) from the app switcher in order to close it. This can also be accomplished by holding down the power button until the shutdown dialog appears and then pressing and holding home until a little beep is emitted. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: RE: Bad-Elf >I still use Navigant and the newest version it has some issue from > accessibility point but still very workable. Not as friendly as it used to > be but very workable. The biggest thing is I think is to just set up your > preface before you start your navigation and then you really don't need to > access them till you get to your destination and then all you need to do > is > close the app all the way out even out of the app switcher. HTH and JMT > > > Bubba <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From d.griffith at btinternet.com Wed Dec 7 12:08:23 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 12:08:23 -0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_misi=F3n_contro_?= In-Reply-To: <7B476FB7-CAB2-494F-8E50-21A7E9579C67@telus.net> Message-ID: <874785.27395.qm@smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com> You can disable mission control keystrokes in system preferences. I think control left arrow brings up mission control by default. On the Mac though you tend to use the option and command key rather than the control key. The control key is used in conjunction with function keys to access parts of the screen You do not use the control key for text reading or navigation. So command up arrow will generally take you to the top of a document. Command right and left arrow will take you to the beginning and end of a line. In finder option shift down arrow will select files to the bottom of a column. .To navigate one word at a time use option and either the left or right arrow and so on. The control key is rarely used in the same way as in Windows. If you are trying to read a paragraph at a time then press VO P to read paragraph and then VO page down to read subsequent paragraphs. Regards David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lovette Yewchan Sent: 07 December 2011 03:16 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: misi?n contro Hi there. I am finding hat as I use curser keys to read things that the mission control keeps coming up. DOes anyone have ideas how to stop this? Thanks. Lovette <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From d.griffith at btinternet.com Wed Dec 7 14:43:13 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:43:13 +0000 Subject: Navigating to the end of word Message-ID: How is it possible to navigate to the end of a word using either Mac OS or Voiceover commands? I know that option right and left arrow will navigate word by word but the focus always seems to be at the beginning of a word. The problem is that this function ignores spaces punctuation and line brake. So for example I have been trying to edit a document in text edit and needed to edit the end of transformer. Pressing option right arrow will take me to the next word which is actually my name David. However it is a period, 3 carriage returns and several spaces beyond the end of the word transformer. Pressing option left arrow will jump me back to the beginning t of transformer but where I want to be is on the final r of transformer. I halve VO set to read character to the right but would not have thought that this makes a difference. David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com From terrycooper10 at hotmail.com Wed Dec 7 14:47:09 2011 From: terrycooper10 at hotmail.com (Terry Cooper) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:47:09 +0000 Subject: how to get rid of the rota Message-ID: Hi all I have obviously changed something somewhere, but I don't know what I did to cause this problem. When doing anything, anywhere, any app, and or the home screen, I keep changing the language, e.g. voice over will suddenly start talking in a foreign language. I always get it back to American English by swiping up, but without warning, it could be a few minutes later, or a few hours, I touch the screen, and it all starts again. How do I get rid of the rota being on the screen to stop this from keep happening, as it is very very annoying. Thanks. Terry 7 From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Wed Dec 7 14:58:08 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:58:08 +0000 Subject: how to get rid of the rota In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <104140E6-0B46-4421-BBC2-F4B6D107B4B0@mac-access.net> hi, I think, by the sound of it, you've set up the language rotor by mistake, so that when a swipe happens, you can change language. I'm not able to fully explain how to do it at the mo as I've got to fly out on an emergency callout. just got in from picking up a mac for freemacs for the blind and now I've got to take my tools on a site. wow. see you guys later. take care and love you all. it's a bloomin marvelous day. lew On 7 Dec 2011, at 14:47, Terry Cooper wrote: > Hi all > > I have obviously changed something somewhere, but I don't know what I did to > cause this problem. > > When doing anything, anywhere, any app, and or the home screen, I keep > changing the language, e.g. voice over will suddenly start talking in a > foreign language. I always get it back to American English by swiping up, > but without warning, it could be a few minutes later, or a few hours, I > touch the screen, and it all starts again. > > How do I get rid of the rota being on the screen to stop this from keep > happening, as it is very very annoying. > > Thanks. > > Terry 7 > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 15:01:01 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:01:01 -0500 Subject: Navigating to the end of word In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BEF6C3E-9F34-4763-9631-FAD130B372B4@gmail.com> Take my name, for example, Marcy Weinberg. If you press option right arrow, and hear the word Marcy, the cursor will be after the y but before the space, so if you left arrow the cursor will be before the y, and if you press option right arrow, the cursor will be after the space and before the W. Hope this helps! On Dec 7, 2011, at 9:43 AM, David Griffith wrote: How is it possible to navigate to the end of a word using either Mac OS or Voiceover commands? I know that option right and left arrow will navigate word by word but the focus always seems to be at the beginning of a word. The problem is that this function ignores spaces punctuation and line brake. So for example I have been trying to edit a document in text edit and needed to edit the end of transformer. Pressing option right arrow will take me to the next word which is actually my name David. However it is a period, 3 carriage returns and several spaces beyond the end of the word transformer. Pressing option left arrow will jump me back to the beginning t of transformer but where I want to be is on the final r of transformer. I halve VO set to read character to the right but would not have thought that this makes a difference. David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 14:55:14 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:55:14 -0500 Subject: how to get rid of the rota In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try going to settings/general/accessibility/voiceover/language rotor, and only select the language you want. On Dec 7, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Terry Cooper wrote: Hi all I have obviously changed something somewhere, but I don't know what I did to cause this problem. When doing anything, anywhere, any app, and or the home screen, I keep changing the language, e.g. voice over will suddenly start talking in a foreign language. I always get it back to American English by swiping up, but without warning, it could be a few minutes later, or a few hours, I touch the screen, and it all starts again. How do I get rid of the rota being on the screen to stop this from keep happening, as it is very very annoying. Thanks. Terry 7 <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From d.griffith at btinternet.com Wed Dec 7 15:00:49 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:00:49 +0000 Subject: Navigating to the end of word In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com I think I can answer my own question. You do indeed have to turn off the option for voiceover to read the word or character to the right. This is a feature which was introduced to make VO more familiar to Windows Screen Readers but I now now know that it has serious limitation. If you turn this off VO will travel obediently to the end of a word rather than jumping over line breaks punctuation and spaces to the next word. I will try and get used to the default way of editing documents with the cursor passing over either side of characters and words. , at 14:43, David Griffith wrote: > How is it possible to navigate to the end of a word using either Mac OS or Voiceover commands? I know that option right and left arrow will navigate word by word but the focus always seems to be at the beginning of a word. The problem is that this function ignores spaces punctuation and line brake. So for example I have been trying to edit a document in text edit and needed to edit the end of transformer. Pressing option right arrow will take me to the next word which is actually my name David. However it is a period, 3 carriage returns and several spaces beyond the end of the word transformer. Pressing option left arrow will jump me back to the beginning t of transformer but where I want to be is on the final r of transformer. > I halve VO set to read character to the right but would not have thought that this makes a difference. > > > David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > > David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 15:26:50 2011 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:26:50 -0000 Subject: Navigating to the end of word References: Message-ID: Hi all, I've wondered this as David but he has raised a point, how do I set VO to read one side of the cursor as presently mine seems to read one then the another at another time. Also, is there a key on the macbook to delete character to the right of the cursor? Many thanks Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:43 PM Subject: Navigating to the end of word > How is it possible to navigate to the end of a word using either Mac OS or > Voiceover commands? I know that option right and left arrow will navigate > word by word but the focus always seems to be at the beginning of a word. > The problem is that this function ignores spaces punctuation and line > brake. So for example I have been trying to edit a document in text edit > and needed to edit the end of transformer. Pressing option right arrow > will take me to the next word which is actually my name David. However it > is a period, 3 carriage returns and several spaces beyond the end of the > word transformer. Pressing option left arrow will jump me back to the > beginning t of transformer but where I want to be is on the final r of > transformer. > I halve VO set to read character to the right but would not have thought > that this makes a difference. > > > David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > > David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 16:03:20 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:03:20 -0800 Subject: Navigating to the end of word In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You do this via the voice over utilities. I believe it is under speech but I migrated my settings from snl when I did my lion install so I cannot be of much help lol! Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 7, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Roger Woolgrove wrote: > Hi all, > > I've wondered this as David but he has raised a point, how do I set VO to read one side of the cursor as presently mine seems to read one then the another at another time. > Also, is there a key on the macbook to delete character to the right of the cursor? > > Many thanks > > Roger > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:43 PM > Subject: Navigating to the end of word > > >> How is it possible to navigate to the end of a word using either Mac OS or Voiceover commands? I know that option right and left arrow will navigate word by word but the focus always seems to be at the beginning of a word. The problem is that this function ignores spaces punctuation and line brake. So for example I have been trying to edit a document in text edit and needed to edit the end of transformer. Pressing option right arrow will take me to the next word which is actually my name David. However it is a period, 3 carriage returns and several spaces beyond the end of the word transformer. Pressing option left arrow will jump me back to the beginning t of transformer but where I want to be is on the final r of transformer. >> I halve VO set to read character to the right but would not have thought that this makes a difference. >> >> >> David Griffith >> d.griffith at btinternet.com >> >> >> David Griffith >> d.griffith at btinternet.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 16:52:07 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:52:07 -0500 Subject: how to get rid of the rota In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, only put the voices you want in the rotor and also when you go to the rotor and choose your voice then be sure to turn it back to word or char so to lock it in. HTH Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:55 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: how to get rid of the rota Try going to settings/general/accessibility/voiceover/language rotor, and only select the language you want. On Dec 7, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Terry Cooper wrote: Hi all I have obviously changed something somewhere, but I don't know what I did to cause this problem. When doing anything, anywhere, any app, and or the home screen, I keep changing the language, e.g. voice over will suddenly start talking in a foreign language. I always get it back to American English by swiping up, but without warning, it could be a few minutes later, or a few hours, I touch the screen, and it all starts again. How do I get rid of the rota being on the screen to stop this from keep happening, as it is very very annoying. Thanks. Terry 7 <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Dec 7 17:12:30 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 04:12:30 +1100 Subject: Say Hello to Piezo Message-ID: This software from rogueamoeba is the first app on the App store to allow recording on your Mac, record from anything whether that source be a stream playing in Safari, audio from another piece of software or from a sound device. The interface is supposed to simple though I'm not sure just how accessible the software is yet as I haven't tried it. You can find out more information about the software by going to From wagners96 at verizon.net Wed Dec 7 17:26:04 2011 From: wagners96 at verizon.net (Carolyn Wagner) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:26:04 -0500 Subject: navigating to a longdesc link in an image Message-ID: How do you access a longdesc link in an image using voiceover? From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Wed Dec 7 17:32:55 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:32:55 +0000 Subject: Slightly off topic. does anyone here have an old apple powerbook G3 spare for parts? Message-ID: <583EA612-5D1E-4FE4-A490-97F89A7F1598@mac-access.net> Hi all, sorry to post this rather slightly off topic post. I've just taken on a powerbook g3 pismo in a very nice condition for the project, however the removeable DVD rom drive is dead (previous owner had damaged the main panel leaving it missing the cover, etc) does anyone have an old powerbook G3 lombard / wallstreet / pismo laying around no longer used or for parts they would be able to spare or the drive needed please. sorry it's off topic but as we're all mac folkies here and causing trouble, I thought it'd be a good place to ask. by the way, have had some headway on outspoken. a very kind gent has sent me an outspoken 9 disk, am still however looking for an outspoken 9.2 updater if anyone knows anything. cheers gang lew Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 17:42:09 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:42:09 -0800 Subject: navigating to a longdesc link in an image In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1A05DA58-3138-4127-8C43-2A08B2EFDF72@gmail.com> a what? That's not a term I know too well. Can you give a description of what you mean and possibly an example? Thanks. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 7, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Carolyn Wagner wrote: > How do you access a longdesc link in an image using voiceover? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Wed Dec 7 17:46:04 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 07:46:04 -1000 Subject: Navigating to the end of word In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Roger, VoiceOver's default behavior is to read the character you just navigated past, so if you're using your right arrow key to navigate, then the character read out is to the left of the cursor, and if you were using your left arrow key to navigate, this would be the character to the right of the cursor. The same thing applies to navigating by words. If I use Option+Right arrow to move over the phrase "Hi Roger" by pressing the Option key and tapping my Right arrow key, the first tap will give me "Hi" and the second tap will give me "Roger". At that point, my insertion point is just after the final "r" in "Roger". If I now continue to press the Option key and tap the Left arrow key, I'll hear "Roger", and a second tap will produce "Hi". My insertion point is just before the initial letter "H" in "Hi". Tapping the Right arrow key gives me "H", and places my insertion point just after the initial letter "H". If I were to tap the Left arrow key, I'd also hear "H", as my cursor traverses the letter in the opposite direction, moving to the left from just after the letter to just before the letter. On Mac laptops, the way to perform a "forward delete" of the character to the right of the insertion point is to press Fn+Delete. Also, although most of the same keyboard combinations for moving and editing that you use for text on the Mac will also work using Bluetooth keyboards paired to iOS devices, because the "Fn" key is not enabled for use under iOS, you'd have to forward delete characters by selecting them and then pressing the "Delete" key. Specifically, hold down the shift key and tap your right arrow to select one or more characters, then press the "Delete" key. For example, let's say I wanted to change the phrase: "show this is true" to change it to "how is this true" and my insertion point is before the "s" in "show". I'd press the Shift key to start my selection, then tap the Right arrow key to select the "s". Than I would press the delete key. Of course, you can also continue to select words, lines, and characters while still holding down the Shift key, before pressing the delete key to delete all your selected text. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 7, 2011, at 05:26, Roger Woolgrove wrote: > Hi all, > > I've wondered this as David but he has raised a point, how do I set VO to read one side of the cursor as presently mine seems to read one then the another at another time. > Also, is there a key on the macbook to delete character to the right of the cursor? > > Many thanks > > Roger > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:43 PM > Subject: Navigating to the end of word > > >> How is it possible to navigate to the end of a word using either Mac OS or Voiceover commands? I know that option right and left arrow will navigate word by word but the focus always seems to be at the beginning of a word. The problem is that this function ignores spaces punctuation and line brake. So for example I have been trying to edit a document in text edit and needed to edit the end of transformer. Pressing option right arrow will take me to the next word which is actually my name David. However it is a period, 3 carriage returns and several spaces beyond the end of the word transformer. Pressing option left arrow will jump me back to the beginning t of transformer but where I want to be is on the final r of transformer. >> I halve VO set to read character to the right but would not have thought that this makes a difference. >> >> >> David Griffith >> d.griffith at btinternet.com >> >> >> David Griffith >> d.griffith at btinternet.com >> From wagners96 at verizon.net Wed Dec 7 17:52:11 2011 From: wagners96 at verizon.net (Carolyn Wagner) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:52:11 -0500 Subject: navigating to a longdesc link in an image In-Reply-To: <1A05DA58-3138-4127-8C43-2A08B2EFDF72@gmail.com> References: <1A05DA58-3138-4127-8C43-2A08B2EFDF72@gmail.com> Message-ID: <084BFD67-7935-4FB2-A761-13D2806BBD83@verizon.net> Some images on the web provide an alternative text version that should describe the image. In certain cases a description of more than 30 words is necessary to describe the image so a longdesc attribute is added to the image tag. Like this a picture of me The longdesc is a link to page that has a longer detailed description of the image. I was wondering if there is a particular command or setting to link to the longdesc from VoiceOver. Right now, VO only reads the alt text "a picture of me". But doesn't allow for me to link to the fulldesc.html page. On Dec 7, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > a what? That's not a term I know too well. Can you give a description of what you mean and possibly an example? > > Thanks. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Dec 7, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Carolyn Wagner wrote: > >> How do you access a longdesc link in an image using voiceover? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 18:03:01 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:03:01 -0500 Subject: Say Hello to Piezo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I just bought the app for $9.99, it seems very accessible. I like it a lot, especially for quick recordings, I think it will be usefull. Courtney On 07/12/2011, at 12:12 in the Afternoon, Dane Trethowan wrote: > This software from rogueamoeba is the first app on the App store to allow recording on your Mac, record from anything whether that source be a stream playing in Safari, audio from another piece of software or from a sound device. > > The interface is supposed to simple though I'm not sure just how accessible the software is yet as I haven't tried it. > > You can find out more information about the software by going to > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Dec 7 18:11:51 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 05:11:51 +1100 Subject: Say Hello to Piezo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Neat! talk about a nice cheap recorder for the Mac, that's good value. I'm in 2 minds as to whether or not to buy it, I already have Audio Hijack Pro but at that price? Well it probably wouldn't do any harm. On 08/12/2011, at 5:03 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I just bought the app for $9.99, it seems very accessible. I like it a lot, especially for quick recordings, I think it will be usefull. > Courtney > On 07/12/2011, at 12:12 in the Afternoon, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> This software from rogueamoeba is the first app on the App store to allow recording on your Mac, record from anything whether that source be a stream playing in Safari, audio from another piece of software or from a sound device. >> >> The interface is supposed to simple though I'm not sure just how accessible the software is yet as I haven't tried it. >> >> You can find out more information about the software by going to >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 18:13:31 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:13:31 -0500 Subject: Say Hello to Piezo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, That was exactly my train of thought, I already had audiohijack, but being a person who's always eager to try new apps, I figured I'd give it a try. Courtney On 07/12/2011, at 1:11 in the Afternoon, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Neat! talk about a nice cheap recorder for the Mac, that's good value. > > I'm in 2 minds as to whether or not to buy it, I already have Audio Hijack Pro but at that price? Well it probably wouldn't do any harm. > > > On 08/12/2011, at 5:03 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I just bought the app for $9.99, it seems very accessible. I like it a lot, especially for quick recordings, I think it will be usefull. >> Courtney >> On 07/12/2011, at 12:12 in the Afternoon, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> This software from rogueamoeba is the first app on the App store to allow recording on your Mac, record from anything whether that source be a stream playing in Safari, audio from another piece of software or from a sound device. >>> >>> The interface is supposed to simple though I'm not sure just how accessible the software is yet as I haven't tried it. >>> >>> You can find out more information about the software by going to >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Dec 7 18:26:21 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 05:26:21 +1100 Subject: Say Hello to Piezo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EDFAFCD.8050207@internode.on.net> The price justifies the try . On 8/12/2011 5:13 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > That was exactly my train of thought, I already had audiohijack, but being a person who's always eager to try new apps, I figured I'd give it a try. > Courtney > On 07/12/2011, at 1:11 in the Afternoon, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Neat! talk about a nice cheap recorder for the Mac, that's good value. >> >> I'm in 2 minds as to whether or not to buy it, I already have Audio Hijack Pro but at that price? Well it probably wouldn't do any harm. >> >> >> On 08/12/2011, at 5:03 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I just bought the app for $9.99, it seems very accessible. I like it a lot, especially for quick recordings, I think it will be usefull. >>> Courtney >>> On 07/12/2011, at 12:12 in the Afternoon, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>>> This software from rogueamoeba is the first app on the App store to allow recording on your Mac, record from anything whether that source be a stream playing in Safari, audio from another piece of software or from a sound device. >>>> >>>> The interface is supposed to simple though I'm not sure just how accessible the software is yet as I haven't tried it. >>>> >>>> You can find out more information about the software by going to >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 01:53:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:53:15 -0800 Subject: navigating to a longdesc link in an image In-Reply-To: <084BFD67-7935-4FB2-A761-13D2806BBD83@verizon.net> References: <1A05DA58-3138-4127-8C43-2A08B2EFDF72@gmail.com> <084BFD67-7935-4FB2-A761-13D2806BBD83@verizon.net> Message-ID: Ah I dunno and I don't know enough html code to help you there lol! HOpe someone can give us a refresher cource in that as I now do everything websight related in a CMS. Take care. On Dec 7, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Carolyn Wagner wrote: > Some images on the web provide an alternative text version that should describe the image. In certain cases a description of more than 30 words is necessary to describe the image so a longdesc attribute is added to the image tag. Like this a picture of me The longdesc is a link to page that has a longer detailed description of the image. > > I was wondering if there is a particular command or setting to link to the longdesc from VoiceOver. Right now, VO only reads the alt text "a picture of me". But doesn't allow for me to link to the fulldesc.html page. > > > On Dec 7, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> a what? That's not a term I know too well. Can you give a description of what you mean and possibly an example? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >> If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Dec 7, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Carolyn Wagner wrote: >> >>> How do you access a longdesc link in an image using voiceover? >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com Thu Dec 8 07:25:56 2011 From: bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com (Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 07:25:56 +0000 Subject: navigating to a longdesc link in an image In-Reply-To: <084BFD67-7935-4FB2-A761-13D2806BBD83@verizon.net> References: <1A05DA58-3138-4127-8C43-2A08B2EFDF72@gmail.com> <084BFD67-7935-4FB2-A761-13D2806BBD83@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Carolyn Wagner wrote: > Some images on the web provide an alternative text version that should describe the image. In certain cases a description of more than 30 words is necessary to describe the image so a longdesc attribute is added to the image tag. Like this a picture of me The longdesc is a link to page that has a longer detailed description of the image. > > I was wondering if there is a particular command or setting to link to the longdesc from VoiceOver. Right now, VO only reads the alt text "a picture of me". But doesn't allow for me to link to the fulldesc.html page. There's no VoiceOver command for accessing "longdesc", and no Safari or Chrome user interface for "longdesc". So to access "longdesc" you'd need some sort of add-on or script. (I'm not aware of any that have been written for these programs.) I'm a member of a group working on the next version of HTML. Currently (and controversially), the current draft specification recommends authors do not use "longdesc". So I'm interested in use of "longdesc" in the wild. Would you be able to provide the address of any webpages that use a "longdesc" you'd like to access? If you are the author of the page, would you consider other means of providing the information such as: * Providing a visible link to the long description after the image. * Including a long description on the same page as the image. This could be declaratively associated with the image using the "aria-describedby" attribute. When JS is available, you could hide the description by default and provide a button that shows it when pressed. An advantage of these approaches is that the long description is available to everyone who might have trouble using the image using widely implemented features. A disadvantage is that the availability of the long description might not be advertised to screen reader users who jump from image to image on the page. Also, obviously, these approaches have an impact on the visual design of the page. Also, what guidance are you following that suggests "30 words" is the maximum suitable length for an "alt" attribute? As an author, if you wouldn't want to add a visible long description or visible link to the long description, would you consider providing the whole long description in the "alt" attribute? This is what the current HTML draft spec suggests. -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Thu Dec 8 16:10:12 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:10:12 +0000 Subject: New Garage band podcast from Ricardo! Message-ID: <293CF35B-F3AB-4150-A7F0-D8A5340590DE@virginmedia.com> Hi all! Ricardo Walker has made another Garage band podcast for those of you who might be interested! http://goo.gl/F9op7 He covers manipulating regions and importing audio samples. Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak From juanitatighan at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 17:49:50 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 12:49:50 -0500 Subject: iPad Randomly Not Showing up in iTunes Message-ID: <78786B94-2E43-447A-AEE5-823E0C5966E9@gmail.com> Sometimes, when my iPad is plugged into the wall, and even though it shows up in iTunes, if I try to sync it, iTunes will say "looking for iPad" and then the iPad just disappears. The only remedy so far is to plug the iPad directly into the computer. Why is this? What settings do I need to fix? Most of the time it will sync over wifi just fine, but every once in a while, I have to plug it directly into the Mac. Any thoughts on how I can fix this? Jane From wagners96 at verizon.net Thu Dec 8 18:28:55 2011 From: wagners96 at verizon.net (Carolyn Wagner) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:28:55 -0500 Subject: navigating to a longdesc link in an image In-Reply-To: References: <1A05DA58-3138-4127-8C43-2A08B2EFDF72@gmail.com> <084BFD67-7935-4FB2-A761-13D2806BBD83@verizon.net> Message-ID: <48C2B439-C76A-46A9-B5B6-786E7506C9BD@verizon.net> Thanks for your reply. I cannot share the url of the page I am working with, but I can tell you that a link was added under the image linking to a long description page, in addition to the longdesc attribute in the image tag. I am curious how the aria-describedby attribute would be used. Would it be included in the image tag, or a surrounding div tag? Do you have any example you can point me to? Or can you provide an example of it used in source code? On Dec 8, 2011, at 2:25 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Carolyn Wagner wrote: >> Some images on the web provide an alternative text version that should describe the image. In certain cases a description of more than 30 words is necessary to describe the image so a longdesc attribute is added to the image tag. Like this a picture of me The longdesc is a link to page that has a longer detailed description of the image. >> >> I was wondering if there is a particular command or setting to link to the longdesc from VoiceOver. Right now, VO only reads the alt text "a picture of me". But doesn't allow for me to link to the fulldesc.html page. > > There's no VoiceOver command for accessing "longdesc", and no Safari > or Chrome user interface for "longdesc". So to access "longdesc" you'd > need some sort of add-on or script. (I'm not aware of any that have > been written for these programs.) > > I'm a member of a group working on the next version of HTML. Currently > (and controversially), the current draft specification recommends > authors do not use "longdesc". So I'm interested in use of "longdesc" > in the wild. Would you be able to provide the address of any webpages > that use a "longdesc" you'd like to access? > > If you are the author of the page, would you consider other means of > providing the information such as: > > * Providing a visible link to the long description after the image. > * Including a long description on the same page as the image. This > could be declaratively associated with the image using the > "aria-describedby" attribute. When JS is available, you could hide the > description by default and provide a button that shows it when > pressed. > > An advantage of these approaches is that the long description is > available to everyone who might have trouble using the image using > widely implemented features. A disadvantage is that the availability > of the long description might not be advertised to screen reader users > who jump from image to image on the page. Also, obviously, these > approaches have an impact on the visual design of the page. > > Also, what guidance are you following that suggests "30 words" is the > maximum suitable length for an "alt" attribute? As an author, if you > wouldn't want to add a visible long description or visible link to the > long description, would you consider providing the whole long > description in the "alt" attribute? This is what the current HTML > draft spec suggests. > > -- > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 22:55:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 14:55:19 -0800 Subject: Hiding purchased iOS apps Message-ID: <8E49BA7B-06D9-40B1-A8C3-144E48B85B99@gmail.com> I hope someone will find this helpful. Hiding purchased iOS apps If the Purchased screen on your iOS device is cluttered with unwanted apps, there's a simple way to clean it up if you're using iTunes 10 and iOS 5. http://onj.me/1w6 From deblewis53 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 02:59:50 2011 From: deblewis53 at gmail.com (Deb Lewis) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 18:59:50 -0800 Subject: Navigating in Apple Mail Message-ID: <66F9E744-FBD6-4A59-AC4D-FFB5451E0055@gmail.com> Hi All: My friend and I are both using the Lion version of Mail. I love how mine is working but we can't get his to do the same. don't know what I'm doing or what he's not doing. In my mail I can tab between the mailbox column and the list of messages. When I'm on a message I can jump to the content with VO-J and back to the message list. I don't return to the mailboxes unless I shift-tab back there. It's great. My friend not he other hand is only able to move between the mailboxes, message and content using the Link command with VO-J. Tab and shift-tab do nothing for him. We think we have things set up pretty much the same but we obviously do not. He is certainly able to get back and forth but it's much more awkward because when he leaves message content he is bounced all the way to the mailbox column instead of to the message list. I'm sure it's something simple, but we've missed it. Thanks in advance for suggestions. Deb From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 03:07:05 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 19:07:05 -0800 Subject: Navigating in Apple Mail In-Reply-To: <66F9E744-FBD6-4A59-AC4D-FFB5451E0055@gmail.com> References: <66F9E744-FBD6-4A59-AC4D-FFB5451E0055@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0AE5CE74-A169-44A2-83D5-C34298F810FF@gmail.com> I think you have to adjust the splitter sliders to get things the way you want them. That will take some patience. Take care. On Dec 8, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: > Hi All: > My friend and I are both using the Lion version of Mail. I love how mine is working but we can't get his to do the same. don't know what I'm doing or what he's not doing. > In my mail I can tab between the mailbox column and the list of messages. When I'm on a message I can jump to the content with VO-J and back to the message list. I don't return to the mailboxes unless I shift-tab back there. It's great. > My friend not he other hand is only able to move between the mailboxes, message and content using the Link command with VO-J. Tab and shift-tab do nothing for him. > We think we have things set up pretty much the same but we obviously do not. He is certainly able to get back and forth but it's much more awkward because when he leaves message content he is bounced all the way to the mailbox column instead of to the message list. I'm sure it's something simple, but we've missed it. > Thanks in advance for suggestions. > > Deb > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From deblewis53 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 03:13:26 2011 From: deblewis53 at gmail.com (Deb Lewis) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 19:13:26 -0800 Subject: Navigating in Apple Mail In-Reply-To: <0AE5CE74-A169-44A2-83D5-C34298F810FF@gmail.com> References: <66F9E744-FBD6-4A59-AC4D-FFB5451E0055@gmail.com> <0AE5CE74-A169-44A2-83D5-C34298F810FF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7787C91F-2CE5-4624-B9AA-3F637CA55804@gmail.com> I'm not sure what the effect of adjusting them is and what impact that would have on how the keyboard performs then. No question that I might have adjusted them but not sure what the relationship is. Deb On Dec 8, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I think you have to adjust the splitter sliders to get things the way you want them. That will take some patience. > > Take care. > On Dec 8, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: > >> Hi All: >> My friend and I are both using the Lion version of Mail. I love how mine is working but we can't get his to do the same. don't know what I'm doing or what he's not doing. >> In my mail I can tab between the mailbox column and the list of messages. When I'm on a message I can jump to the content with VO-J and back to the message list. I don't return to the mailboxes unless I shift-tab back there. It's great. >> My friend not he other hand is only able to move between the mailboxes, message and content using the Link command with VO-J. Tab and shift-tab do nothing for him. >> We think we have things set up pretty much the same but we obviously do not. He is certainly able to get back and forth but it's much more awkward because when he leaves message content he is bounced all the way to the mailbox column instead of to the message list. I'm sure it's something simple, but we've missed it. >> Thanks in advance for suggestions. >> >> Deb >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 06:17:35 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 22:17:35 -0800 Subject: Navigating in Apple Mail In-Reply-To: <7787C91F-2CE5-4624-B9AA-3F637CA55804@gmail.com> References: <66F9E744-FBD6-4A59-AC4D-FFB5451E0055@gmail.com> <0AE5CE74-A169-44A2-83D5-C34298F810FF@gmail.com> <7787C91F-2CE5-4624-B9AA-3F637CA55804@gmail.com> Message-ID: That's how I had to get it to work and that is what it was suggested to me. I don't yet understand the concept of splitters except it effects how the screen is laid out. Take care all. On Dec 8, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: > I'm not sure what the effect of adjusting them is and what impact that would have on how the keyboard performs then. No question that I might have adjusted them but not sure what the relationship is. > > Deb > > On Dec 8, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I think you have to adjust the splitter sliders to get things the way you want them. That will take some patience. >> >> Take care. >> On Dec 8, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: >> >>> Hi All: >>> My friend and I are both using the Lion version of Mail. I love how mine is working but we can't get his to do the same. don't know what I'm doing or what he's not doing. >>> In my mail I can tab between the mailbox column and the list of messages. When I'm on a message I can jump to the content with VO-J and back to the message list. I don't return to the mailboxes unless I shift-tab back there. It's great. >>> My friend not he other hand is only able to move between the mailboxes, message and content using the Link command with VO-J. Tab and shift-tab do nothing for him. >>> We think we have things set up pretty much the same but we obviously do not. He is certainly able to get back and forth but it's much more awkward because when he leaves message content he is bounced all the way to the mailbox column instead of to the message list. I'm sure it's something simple, but we've missed it. >>> Thanks in advance for suggestions. >>> >>> Deb >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Dec 9 06:24:00 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 06:24:00 +0000 Subject: file order in player. Message-ID: <7CF872A0-D76B-4271-BAB3-531A5B32093A@googlemail.com> Hi all tried to number files so they play in order. when i do from 01 to 10 it's fine but when i go and do the rest of the files instead of going in number order after number 10 it puts 100 instead so it plays file 100 instead of 11 after ten i tried doing it the other way and putting 001 002 etc but when i did it that way it started to play 105 first to 144 then went back to 001 how do i need to number them so there going to play from 01 to 144 in my media player correctly. thanks very much. Ian McNamara From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Dec 9 07:15:41 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:15:41 +1100 Subject: Apple names 1Password among Best of Mac App Store 2011 | Agile Blog Message-ID: Yep it seems to be true folks . I've been running 1 Password on my Mac for quite some time now. Yep, I've hit a few bumps along the 1 Password road but the team who develop the software have been incredibly responsive to any problems or concernes I've raised with them regarding the software. Still some problems to be fixed with the 1 Password Pro iPhone/iPad app but that's going to come in time. Anyway read all about Apple's recognition of the 1 password app at http://blog.agilebits.com/2011/12/apple-names-1password-among-best-of-mac-app-store-2011/ From weavermicha at googlemail.com Fri Dec 9 08:22:18 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 08:22:18 +0000 Subject: adding a contact Message-ID: <4ee1c2b9.0661b40a.62aa.260b@mx.google.com> is there a way to add a contact from the recent calls list on the i-phone 4? i ask because someone called my mobile so their number showed up in my calls list only when i try to add a contact this way it prefers to dial the number rather than to give me the option to add it to my contacts list. From margaretebooth at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 10:10:27 2011 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 21:10:27 +1100 Subject: Unzipping files Message-ID: <-1006720373906233070@unknownmsgid> Can someone recommend a good app for unzipping files on my MacBook pro Margaret Sent from my iPhone From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 10:28:17 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 05:28:17 -0500 Subject: Unzipping files In-Reply-To: <-1006720373906233070@unknownmsgid> References: <-1006720373906233070@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <212818B6-1F00-4A20-8538-FBE43B15D306@gmail.com> I just hit command-o o the zipped file and it unzips. There's another program that Lynne has recommended, but it's slipped my mind. In other worse, can't remember the name. Perhaps she can. Jane On Dec 9, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > Can someone recommend a good app for unzipping files on my MacBook pro > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Fri Dec 9 11:02:48 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:02:48 +0000 Subject: file order in player. In-Reply-To: <7CF872A0-D76B-4271-BAB3-531A5B32093A@googlemail.com> References: <7CF872A0-D76B-4271-BAB3-531A5B32093A@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Ian! My suggestion is to do A1 to A10 then B1 to B10 and so on! So of course 11 would be B1! hth Colin Hi On 9 Dec 2011, at 06:24, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi all tried to number files so they play in order. when i do from 01 to 10 it's fine but when i go and do the rest of the files instead of going in number order after number 10 it puts 100 instead so it plays file 100 instead of 11 after ten i tried doing it the other way and putting 001 002 etc but when i did it that way it started to play 105 first to 144 then went back to 001 how do i need to number them so there going to play from 01 to 144 in my media player correctly. > > thanks very much. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From terrycooper10 at hotmail.com Fri Dec 9 11:54:20 2011 From: terrycooper10 at hotmail.com (Terry Cooper) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:54:20 +0000 Subject: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Message-ID: Hi all I've just bought a docking station, which comes with an optional Bluetooth adaptor to enable you to play music from your iphone over Bluetooth. My question is, what do you have to do with the iphone, (apart from turning Bluetooth on) to make it send the music over to the docking station. Also, will the music also be played through the speaker of the iphone at the same time? I do hope not. Thanks as always for any help. Terry From terry.clasper at btinternet.com Fri Dec 9 11:56:28 2011 From: terry.clasper at btinternet.com (Terry Clasper) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:56:28 -0000 Subject: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00e201ccb669$9661b9b0$c3252d10$@clasper@btinternet.com> Hi Terry. When you pair the Bluetooth dongle of the dock to the phone it will recognise it as being a soundcard. So once its paired and active your good to go, and no, certainly my experience of doing this tells me that the sound wont also come out of the IPhone. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Cooper Sent: 09 December 2011 11:54 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi all I've just bought a docking station, which comes with an optional Bluetooth adaptor to enable you to play music from your iphone over Bluetooth. My question is, what do you have to do with the iphone, (apart from turning Bluetooth on) to make it send the music over to the docking station. Also, will the music also be played through the speaker of the iphone at the same time? I do hope not. Thanks as always for any help. Terry <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From terrycooper10 at hotmail.com Fri Dec 9 12:34:29 2011 From: terrycooper10 at hotmail.com (Terry Cooper) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:34:29 +0000 Subject: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth In-Reply-To: <00e201ccb669$9661b9b0$c3252d10$@clasper@btinternet.com> References: <00e201ccb669$9661b9b0$c3252d10$@clasper@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Hi Terry Thanks for that. Another question. When the music is playing through the docking station, and you are using other apps on the iphone, does voce over come through the speakers on the docking station. Thanks. Terry -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Clasper Sent: 09 December 2011 11:56 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi Terry. When you pair the Bluetooth dongle of the dock to the phone it will recognise it as being a soundcard. So once its paired and active your good to go, and no, certainly my experience of doing this tells me that the sound wont also come out of the IPhone. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Cooper Sent: 09 December 2011 11:54 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi all I've just bought a docking station, which comes with an optional Bluetooth adaptor to enable you to play music from your iphone over Bluetooth. My question is, what do you have to do with the iphone, (apart from turning Bluetooth on) to make it send the music over to the docking station. Also, will the music also be played through the speaker of the iphone at the same time? I do hope not. Thanks as always for any help. Terry <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From terry.clasper at btinternet.com Fri Dec 9 12:38:11 2011 From: terry.clasper at btinternet.com (Terry Clasper) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:38:11 -0000 Subject: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth In-Reply-To: References: <00e201ccb669$9661b9b0$c3252d10$@clasper@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <010701ccb66f$69de8e80$3d9bab80$@clasper@btinternet.com> HI mate, yes thats exactly what happens because effectively the Bluetooth device is being used as the soundcard for the phone. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Cooper Sent: 09 December 2011 12:34 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi Terry Thanks for that. Another question. When the music is playing through the docking station, and you are using other apps on the iphone, does voce over come through the speakers on the docking station. Thanks. Terry -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Clasper Sent: 09 December 2011 11:56 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi Terry. When you pair the Bluetooth dongle of the dock to the phone it will recognise it as being a soundcard. So once its paired and active your good to go, and no, certainly my experience of doing this tells me that the sound wont also come out of the IPhone. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Cooper Sent: 09 December 2011 11:54 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi all I've just bought a docking station, which comes with an optional Bluetooth adaptor to enable you to play music from your iphone over Bluetooth. My question is, what do you have to do with the iphone, (apart from turning Bluetooth on) to make it send the music over to the docking station. Also, will the music also be played through the speaker of the iphone at the same time? I do hope not. Thanks as always for any help. Terry <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Dec 9 13:12:21 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:12:21 -0400 Subject: Plantronics 995 audio headset Message-ID: <8B0B6CD6DEE74C84AB8F86A198C6169C@CNIBnotebook> Hi Folks: Has anyone had any experience with this animal on a Mac? If so, how so? Thanks all over the place. From terrycooper10 at hotmail.com Fri Dec 9 13:12:13 2011 From: terrycooper10 at hotmail.com (Terry Cooper) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:12:13 +0000 Subject: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth In-Reply-To: <010701ccb66f$69de8e80$3d9bab80$@clasper@btinternet.com> References: <00e201ccb669$9661b9b0$c3252d10$@clasper@btinternet.com> <010701ccb66f$69de8e80$3d9bab80$@clasper@btinternet.com> Message-ID: HI That's such a shame. The Bluetooth adaptor is optional for this docking station, and costs 80 quid, so I may reconsider buying one, as it sort of defeats the purpose, e.g. not being able to use the iphone for doing other things whilst the music is playing. Ah well. Oh, another thing just popped into my head though, lol. Can you use a computer to stream music over to the docking station? If so, this may be a way around the above issue. Thanks again. Terry -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Clasper Sent: 09 December 2011 12:38 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth HI mate, yes thats exactly what happens because effectively the Bluetooth device is being used as the soundcard for the phone. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Cooper Sent: 09 December 2011 12:34 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi Terry Thanks for that. Another question. When the music is playing through the docking station, and you are using other apps on the iphone, does voce over come through the speakers on the docking station. Thanks. Terry -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Clasper Sent: 09 December 2011 11:56 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi Terry. When you pair the Bluetooth dongle of the dock to the phone it will recognise it as being a soundcard. So once its paired and active your good to go, and no, certainly my experience of doing this tells me that the sound wont also come out of the IPhone. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Cooper Sent: 09 December 2011 11:54 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi all I've just bought a docking station, which comes with an optional Bluetooth adaptor to enable you to play music from your iphone over Bluetooth. My question is, what do you have to do with the iphone, (apart from turning Bluetooth on) to make it send the music over to the docking station. Also, will the music also be played through the speaker of the iphone at the same time? I do hope not. Thanks as always for any help. Terry <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From terrycooper10 at hotmail.com Fri Dec 9 13:32:06 2011 From: terrycooper10 at hotmail.com (Terry Cooper) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:32:06 +0000 Subject: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth In-Reply-To: <010701ccb66f$69de8e80$3d9bab80$@clasper@btinternet.com> References: <00e201ccb669$9661b9b0$c3252d10$@clasper@btinternet.com> <010701ccb66f$69de8e80$3d9bab80$@clasper@btinternet.com> Message-ID: #Sorry, I guess I've already answered my own question. I could just use a wired connection from the computer to the docking station. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Clasper Sent: 09 December 2011 12:38 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth HI mate, yes thats exactly what happens because effectively the Bluetooth device is being used as the soundcard for the phone. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Cooper Sent: 09 December 2011 12:34 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi Terry Thanks for that. Another question. When the music is playing through the docking station, and you are using other apps on the iphone, does voce over come through the speakers on the docking station. Thanks. Terry -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Clasper Sent: 09 December 2011 11:56 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi Terry. When you pair the Bluetooth dongle of the dock to the phone it will recognise it as being a soundcard. So once its paired and active your good to go, and no, certainly my experience of doing this tells me that the sound wont also come out of the IPhone. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Cooper Sent: 09 December 2011 11:54 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi all I've just bought a docking station, which comes with an optional Bluetooth adaptor to enable you to play music from your iphone over Bluetooth. My question is, what do you have to do with the iphone, (apart from turning Bluetooth on) to make it send the music over to the docking station. Also, will the music also be played through the speaker of the iphone at the same time? I do hope not. Thanks as always for any help. Terry <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Fri Dec 9 13:54:21 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:54:21 +0000 Subject: iphone 3gs playing up. Message-ID: <098B3227-1105-410C-9B09-10760CD176AB@mac-access.net> Hey all. well that's it. today my iphone 3gs started crashing. woke up this morning. battery level was OK about 15% to cover me for a couple of hours. out on the road, it dies. just got in, docked up and te iphone is constantly restarting itself every 5 minutes. this is really starting to get on my nerves. am about to wipe the phone and restart from scratch. lew Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Dec 9 15:19:14 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane trethowan) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 02:19:14 +1100 Subject: Upgrading from iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 Message-ID: <4EE226F2.6040004@internode.on.net> Hi! Just got word that my iPhone 4 is on its way so "Merry Christmas Dane!" so here's the question, has anyone upgrading from an iPhone 3GS to an iPhone 4 noticed any performance differences or anything? yep! could have upgraded to an iPhone 4S but I decied to hold off and wait till probably this time next year though the way the time goes with the years these days "This Time Next Year" will be here with us this time next week . -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Fri Dec 9 13:08:07 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:08:07 +0000 Subject: My o2 app Message-ID: <4EE20837.1050201@techno-chat.net> For those living in the UK and are on O2, their app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. It is free and is called My O2. It is of course available in the app store and searched for it using O2 as the search term. You first log in with your username and password that you got when you registered with O2, then you are aksed to create a pin to keep your data safe. Then it will show you things like what you have used this month for voice, messages and data. There is also a button to view your account information, which appears to open in Safari however I am not sure. It is best to use this app over 3G as some parts will not work correctly over wifi. On the whole this will be useful for those like me who are on O2 Pay Monthly and want to monitor their usage. So that's My O2 available free in the App Store and is made by Telephonica Inc. Enjoy! From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 17:10:42 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:10:42 -0500 Subject: Hiding purchased iOS apps In-Reply-To: <8E49BA7B-06D9-40B1-A8C3-144E48B85B99@gmail.com> References: <8E49BA7B-06D9-40B1-A8C3-144E48B85B99@gmail.com> Message-ID: So read this and was not sure does this hide the app on the device or just hide it in your perches list in iTunes on the computer and on the app store on your device? For example can I hide say email on my device? Or Calendar or Navigon or something like that on one of my home pages? Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 5:55 PM To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Hiding purchased iOS apps I hope someone will find this helpful. Hiding purchased iOS apps If the Purchased screen on your iOS device is cluttered with unwanted apps, there's a simple way to clean it up if you're using iTunes 10 and iOS 5. http://onj.me/1w6 <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 17:23:01 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:23:01 -0800 Subject: Hiding purchased iOS apps In-Reply-To: References: <8E49BA7B-06D9-40B1-A8C3-144E48B85B99@gmail.com> Message-ID: <65966B57-D64D-47FC-AAE9-9D18408A8E70@gmail.com> It hides it in the purchiced list. I've already started using this actually. I don't want to see a phone app as the dev is not planning on implementing voice over accessibility. It will not hide updates though if you hide an app you bought on your phone though. Maybe though if enough of us devs suggest that? lol! On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Bubba wrote: > So read this and was not sure does this hide the app on the device or just > hide it in your perches list in iTunes on the computer and on the app store > on your device? For example can I hide say email on my device? Or Calendar > or Navigon or something like that on one of my home pages? > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 5:55 PM > To: mac access list iOS Accessibility > Subject: Hiding purchased iOS apps > > I hope someone will find this helpful. > > > > Hiding purchased iOS apps > > If the Purchased screen on your iOS device is cluttered with unwanted apps, > there's a simple way to clean it up if you're using iTunes 10 and iOS 5. > > http://onj.me/1w6 > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 17:24:21 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:24:21 -0800 Subject: Upgrading from iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 In-Reply-To: <4EE226F2.6040004@internode.on.net> References: <4EE226F2.6040004@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Yeah there is a big big differents. The speed for one thing? It's very fast especially with ios 5. and the camera is much better. And I think the auto focus works and the video quality is also quite good. On Dec 9, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Just got word that my iPhone 4 is on its way so "Merry Christmas Dane!" so here's the question, has anyone upgrading from an iPhone 3GS to an iPhone 4 noticed any performance differences or anything? > > yep! could have upgraded to an iPhone 4S but I decied to hold off and wait till probably this time next year though the way the time goes with the years these days "This Time Next Year" will be here with us this time next week . > > > -- > sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 17:25:30 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:25:30 -0800 Subject: iphone 3gs playing up. In-Reply-To: <098B3227-1105-410C-9B09-10760CD176AB@mac-access.net> References: <098B3227-1105-410C-9B09-10760CD176AB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Restore as new. It's a bug actually. Get your XCode logs and submit your consul to the appropriate parties. Take care. On Dec 9, 2011, at 5:54 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > Hey all. > > well that's it. > > today my iphone 3gs started crashing. woke up this morning. battery level was OK about 15% to cover me for a couple of hours. out on the road, it dies. just got in, docked up and te iphone is constantly restarting itself every 5 minutes. this is really starting to get on my nerves. > > am about to wipe the phone and restart from scratch. > > lew > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 17:26:31 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:26:31 -0800 Subject: Unzipping files In-Reply-To: <-1006720373906233070@unknownmsgid> References: <-1006720373906233070@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: The unarchiver is quite good and so is SArchiver. Also the default archive utility on mac os is good as well. On Dec 9, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > Can someone recommend a good app for unzipping files on my MacBook pro > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 17:26:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:26:58 -0800 Subject: adding a contact In-Reply-To: <4ee1c2b9.0661b40a.62aa.260b@mx.google.com> References: <4ee1c2b9.0661b40a.62aa.260b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <662D6C78-6CB3-43A2-99C7-1E37C4F23954@gmail.com> Yep go to more info then there should be an add to contacts thing. Take care and hope that helps. On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:22 AM, michael weaver wrote: > is there a way to add a contact from the recent calls list on the i-phone 4? > i ask because someone called my mobile so their number showed up in my calls list only when i try to add a contact this way it prefers to dial the number rather than to give me the option to add it to my contacts list. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Fri Dec 9 17:31:26 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 17:31:26 +0000 Subject: iphone 3gs playing up. In-Reply-To: References: <098B3227-1105-410C-9B09-10760CD176AB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6F1F9CB3-85FF-4D07-AE93-06CFE843B31B@mac-access.net> phone back up and running 20 mins later. so al is fine. for now mwahahahahaha! anyway just got back and very cold. need someone to warm me up. instead I'll settle for central heating and bar of chocolate. lew On 9 Dec 2011, at 17:25, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Restore as new. It's a bug actually. Get your XCode logs and submit your consul to the appropriate parties. > > Take care. > On Dec 9, 2011, at 5:54 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> Hey all. >> >> well that's it. >> >> today my iphone 3gs started crashing. woke up this morning. battery level was OK about 15% to cover me for a couple of hours. out on the road, it dies. just got in, docked up and te iphone is constantly restarting itself every 5 minutes. this is really starting to get on my nerves. >> >> am about to wipe the phone and restart from scratch. >> >> lew >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 17:31:20 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:31:20 -0500 Subject: using iPhone to play music using Bluetooth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No the music will not be played over the iPhone speakers at the same time. But you might not get Vo over the BT in less you have A2DP . HTH Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Cooper Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:54 AM To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: using iphone to play music using Bluetooth Hi all I've just bought a docking station, which comes with an optional Bluetooth adaptor to enable you to play music from your iphone over Bluetooth. My question is, what do you have to do with the iphone, (apart from turning Bluetooth on) to make it send the music over to the docking station. Also, will the music also be played through the speaker of the iphone at the same time? I do hope not. Thanks as always for any help. Terry <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 17:38:17 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:38:17 -0800 Subject: iphone 3gs playing up. In-Reply-To: <6F1F9CB3-85FF-4D07-AE93-06CFE843B31B@mac-access.net> References: <098B3227-1105-410C-9B09-10760CD176AB@mac-access.net> <6F1F9CB3-85FF-4D07-AE93-06CFE843B31B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I would still leave your phone connected to the comp with XCode running and that consul in front of you. and I mean the consul in XCode so you can hit the export button and upload it to the appropriate persons.. Do this for about 8 to 10 hours or when you sleep. you might or they might recognise a pattern when you give it to them. Take care. On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > phone back up and running 20 mins later. so al is fine. for now mwahahahahaha! > > anyway just got back and very cold. need someone to warm me up. instead I'll settle for central heating and bar of chocolate. > > lew > > On 9 Dec 2011, at 17:25, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Restore as new. It's a bug actually. Get your XCode logs and submit your consul to the appropriate parties. >> >> Take care. >> On Dec 9, 2011, at 5:54 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >> >>> Hey all. >>> >>> well that's it. >>> >>> today my iphone 3gs started crashing. woke up this morning. battery level was OK about 15% to cover me for a couple of hours. out on the road, it dies. just got in, docked up and te iphone is constantly restarting itself every 5 minutes. this is really starting to get on my nerves. >>> >>> am about to wipe the phone and restart from scratch. >>> >>> lew >>> >>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>> >>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >>> >>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >>> >>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>> http://www.mac-access.net >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Fri Dec 9 17:39:39 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 17:39:39 +0000 Subject: iphone 3gs playing up. In-Reply-To: References: <098B3227-1105-410C-9B09-10760CD176AB@mac-access.net> <6F1F9CB3-85FF-4D07-AE93-06CFE843B31B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <219C90A7-07A0-40DB-BBF0-60ED4191FDB0@mac-access.net> hey sarah, I know lol I've done this as a dev for them in the past. hehehehe lew On 9 Dec 2011, at 17:38, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I would still leave your phone connected to the comp with XCode running and that consul in front of you. and I mean the consul in XCode so you can hit the export button and upload it to the appropriate persons.. Do this for about 8 to 10 hours or when you sleep. you might or they might recognise a pattern when you give it to them. > > Take care. > On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> phone back up and running 20 mins later. so al is fine. for now mwahahahahaha! >> >> anyway just got back and very cold. need someone to warm me up. instead I'll settle for central heating and bar of chocolate. >> >> lew >> >> On 9 Dec 2011, at 17:25, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Restore as new. It's a bug actually. Get your XCode logs and submit your consul to the appropriate parties. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Dec 9, 2011, at 5:54 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >>> >>>> Hey all. >>>> >>>> well that's it. >>>> >>>> today my iphone 3gs started crashing. woke up this morning. battery level was OK about 15% to cover me for a couple of hours. out on the road, it dies. just got in, docked up and te iphone is constantly restarting itself every 5 minutes. this is really starting to get on my nerves. >>>> >>>> am about to wipe the phone and restart from scratch. >>>> >>>> lew >>>> >>>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >>>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>>> >>>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >>>> >>>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >>>> >>>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>>> http://www.mac-access.net >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 17:49:12 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:49:12 -0500 Subject: Hiding purchased iOS apps In-Reply-To: <65966B57-D64D-47FC-AAE9-9D18408A8E70@gmail.com> References: <8E49BA7B-06D9-40B1-A8C3-144E48B85B99@gmail.com> <65966B57-D64D-47FC-AAE9-9D18408A8E70@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ok then it don't hide it on the home pages . I was hoping for this to hide app on the home pages or lock them with a password. Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 12:23 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Hiding purchased iOS apps It hides it in the purchiced list. I've already started using this actually. I don't want to see a phone app as the dev is not planning on implementing voice over accessibility. It will not hide updates though if you hide an app you bought on your phone though. Maybe though if enough of us devs suggest that? lol! On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Bubba wrote: > So read this and was not sure does this hide the app on the device or just > hide it in your perches list in iTunes on the computer and on the app store > on your device? For example can I hide say email on my device? Or Calendar > or Navigon or something like that on one of my home pages? > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 5:55 PM > To: mac access list iOS Accessibility > Subject: Hiding purchased iOS apps > > I hope someone will find this helpful. > > > > Hiding purchased iOS apps > > If the Purchased screen on your iOS device is cluttered with unwanted apps, > there's a simple way to clean it up if you're using iTunes 10 and iOS 5. > > http://onj.me/1w6 > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 17:53:50 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:53:50 -0500 Subject: Upgrading from iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 In-Reply-To: <4EE226F2.6040004@internode.on.net> References: <4EE226F2.6040004@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Yes worth the upgrade it has a little faster processer and twice the ram and a much better camera . So yes it is worth the upgrade but for another 100 bucks you could got the iphone4s with a lot faster processer and lot better camera and with the new voice command thing called Series and a extra 8 gb of storage. JST ! Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dane trethowan Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 10:19 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Upgrading from iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 Hi! Just got word that my iPhone 4 is on its way so "Merry Christmas Dane!" so here's the question, has anyone upgrading from an iPhone 3GS to an iPhone 4 noticed any performance differences or anything? yep! could have upgraded to an iPhone 4S but I decied to hold off and wait till probably this time next year though the way the time goes with the years these days "This Time Next Year" will be here with us this time next week . -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 17:56:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:56:29 -0800 Subject: Hiding purchased iOS apps In-Reply-To: References: <8E49BA7B-06D9-40B1-A8C3-144E48B85B99@gmail.com> <65966B57-D64D-47FC-AAE9-9D18408A8E70@gmail.com> Message-ID: No but it is stil useful to clean up your purchiced history. Let's say you are never going ot download that app again. yOu can hide it. I dunno if it hides in the search but you could always test that. On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Bubba wrote: > Ok then it don't hide it on the home pages . I was hoping for this to hide > app on the home pages or lock them with a password. > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 12:23 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Hiding purchased iOS apps > > It hides it in the purchiced list. I've already started using this > actually. I don't want to see a phone app as the dev is not planning on > implementing voice over accessibility. It will not hide updates though if > you hide an app you bought on your phone though. Maybe though if enough of > us devs suggest that? lol! > On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Bubba wrote: > >> So read this and was not sure does this hide the app on the device or just >> hide it in your perches list in iTunes on the computer and on the app > store >> on your device? For example can I hide say email on my device? Or Calendar >> or Navigon or something like that on one of my home pages? >> >> >> Sign, >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 5:55 PM >> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Hiding purchased iOS apps >> >> I hope someone will find this helpful. >> >> >> >> Hiding purchased iOS apps >> >> If the Purchased screen on your iOS device is cluttered with unwanted > apps, >> there's a simple way to clean it up if you're using iTunes 10 and iOS 5. >> >> http://onj.me/1w6 >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 17:57:17 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:57:17 -0800 Subject: iphone 3gs playing up. In-Reply-To: <219C90A7-07A0-40DB-BBF0-60ED4191FDB0@mac-access.net> References: <098B3227-1105-410C-9B09-10760CD176AB@mac-access.net> <6F1F9CB3-85FF-4D07-AE93-06CFE843B31B@mac-access.net> <219C90A7-07A0-40DB-BBF0-60ED4191FDB0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8BF74FCE-C4B4-4517-B6F2-B3F1A625449B@gmail.com> lol! Just trying to help out. Ok it's back to getting ready to head out and enjoy the wonderful world of ios. lol! hope you get your problem fixed. On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > hey sarah, I know lol I've done this as a dev for them in the past. hehehehe > > lew > > On 9 Dec 2011, at 17:38, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I would still leave your phone connected to the comp with XCode running and that consul in front of you. and I mean the consul in XCode so you can hit the export button and upload it to the appropriate persons.. Do this for about 8 to 10 hours or when you sleep. you might or they might recognise a pattern when you give it to them. >> >> Take care. >> On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >> >>> phone back up and running 20 mins later. so al is fine. for now mwahahahahaha! >>> >>> anyway just got back and very cold. need someone to warm me up. instead I'll settle for central heating and bar of chocolate. >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 9 Dec 2011, at 17:25, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Restore as new. It's a bug actually. Get your XCode logs and submit your consul to the appropriate parties. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Dec 9, 2011, at 5:54 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey all. >>>>> >>>>> well that's it. >>>>> >>>>> today my iphone 3gs started crashing. woke up this morning. battery level was OK about 15% to cover me for a couple of hours. out on the road, it dies. just got in, docked up and te iphone is constantly restarting itself every 5 minutes. this is really starting to get on my nerves. >>>>> >>>>> am about to wipe the phone and restart from scratch. >>>>> >>>>> lew >>>>> >>>>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>>>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>>>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >>>>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>>>> >>>>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >>>>> >>>>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >>>>> >>>>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>>>> http://www.mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>> >>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >>> >>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >>> >>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>> http://www.mac-access.net >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Fri Dec 9 18:05:08 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:05:08 +0000 Subject: iphone 3gs playing up. In-Reply-To: <8BF74FCE-C4B4-4517-B6F2-B3F1A625449B@gmail.com> References: <098B3227-1105-410C-9B09-10760CD176AB@mac-access.net> <6F1F9CB3-85FF-4D07-AE93-06CFE843B31B@mac-access.net> <219C90A7-07A0-40DB-BBF0-60ED4191FDB0@mac-access.net> <8BF74FCE-C4B4-4517-B6F2-B3F1A625449B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <37A20480-C3ED-4C9D-947E-F4FDCE684F3C@mac-access.net> no worries. just working on this powerbook g3 pismo still. the hard drive is upgraded after 15 hours work, the memory is tuned and upgraded. the DVD drive... well let's leave it at that for the mo. take care and have fun lew On 9 Dec 2011, at 17:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: > lol! Just trying to help out. Ok it's back to getting ready to head out and enjoy the wonderful world of ios. lol! > > hope you get your problem fixed. > On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 18:46:23 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:46:23 +0000 Subject: docuscan plus Message-ID: <7AF60A32-BCBC-4E2C-A973-5719F79B0503@gmail.com> hi all do keyboard shortcuts exist in seroteks docuscan plus or do we have to keep manually finding buttons? From cfgolding at comcast.net Fri Dec 9 20:22:46 2011 From: cfgolding at comcast.net (Catherine Golding) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:22:46 -0800 Subject: Deleting Message-ID: <004401ccb6b0$50c77510$f2565f30$@net> How do I delete a document in Pages? Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington From deblewis53 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 20:51:55 2011 From: deblewis53 at gmail.com (Deb Lewis) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:51:55 -0800 Subject: Deleting In-Reply-To: <004401ccb6b0$50c77510$f2565f30$@net> References: <004401ccb6b0$50c77510$f2565f30$@net> Message-ID: <9A17DF72-5C32-42A1-8D3E-69FD5B5A4F33@gmail.com> Go to the Documents folder in Finder and press Command-delete on the file. On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Catherine Golding wrote: > How do I delete a document in Pages? > > > > Catherine Golding > > Olympia, Washington > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 00:31:34 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:31:34 -0500 Subject: Rearranging Items In Playlist On Mac Message-ID: <84962BD7-40CB-46CB-BAAD-03A40326E25B@gmail.com> How can I rearrange items in a playlist in iTunes without having to re-make it? Jane From mattchao at verizon.net Sat Dec 10 01:19:27 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:19:27 -0500 Subject: Unable to Play Music on New iPhone 4s Message-ID: <0LVY00KYZROMRD99@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Folks. Just got an iPhone 4, replacing my older iPhone 4.s. Everything seems to work, but I can't play my tunes that are on the phone. I double-tap, and no music. What do I need to do? Or what am I doing wrong? Icloud restored everthing, so it tells me. I can find all the albums, but can't hear any music. Help appreciated. Thanks in advance.--Matt. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 03:15:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:15:29 -0800 Subject: Rearranging Items In Playlist On Mac In-Reply-To: <84962BD7-40CB-46CB-BAAD-03A40326E25B@gmail.com> References: <84962BD7-40CB-46CB-BAAD-03A40326E25B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <338D417D-E479-4437-8793-8471E292C8DC@gmail.com> Hit vo shift back slash on the column you want to arrange by. It wil arange in reverse or non reverse order. Take care. On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Jane wrote: > How can I rearrange items in a playlist in iTunes without having to re-make it? > > Jane > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 03:16:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:16:53 -0800 Subject: Unable to Play Music on New iPhone 4s In-Reply-To: <0LVY00KYZROMRD99@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0LVY00KYZROMRD99@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <73E0C859-F6FB-4A71-9FA1-D9C738367D95@gmail.com> What error messages are you getting if any? If none try resyncing your music library with your phone. Uncheck the music check box under music radio button under devices and then hit apply. Now recheck music and there ya go.. That should work. Maybe something got corrupt. On Dec 9, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks. Just got an iPhone 4, replacing my older iPhone 4.s. Everything seems to work, but I can't play my tunes that are on the phone. I double-tap, and no music. What do I need to do? Or what am I doing wrong? Icloud restored everthing, so it tells me. I can find all the albums, but can't hear any music. Help appreciated. Thanks in advance.--Matt. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Dec 10 09:29:35 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:29:35 +1100 Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? Message-ID: Hi! Can anyone using this app tell me how one gets to a list of people you're following? From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Dec 10 09:31:29 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:31:29 +1100 Subject: Niticing some rather interesting behaviour on my iPad and Mail Message-ID: Hi! Has anyone noticed some odd behaviour with Mail on an iPad? For example when I'm say in the in-box and I double-tap the "Edit" button and start selecting messages, iPad becomes very sluggish and Voiceover doesn't give any feedback as to what has been selected. Sometimes Mail will crash and you end up back at the home screen. From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 10:08:15 2011 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria, Joe and Karly) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:08:15 +1100 Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EE32F8F.8070807@gmail.com> HI. at the bottom of the screen i have tweet lists, mentions dm's etc. I normally touch the bottom of the screen to get to these or do the four finger tap at the bottom. hope this helps Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com dj on www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk On 10/12/2011 8:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Can anyone using this app tell me how one gets to a list of people you're following? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Dec 10 10:45:15 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:45:15 +1100 Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? In-Reply-To: <4EE32F8F.8070807@gmail.com> References: <4EE32F8F.8070807@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yep, I know what you're talking about, but I can't seem to find what I want in those sections, can you perhaps be a bit more specific if possible? On 10/12/2011, at 9:08 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: > HI. > > at the bottom of the screen i have tweet lists, mentions dm's etc. I normally touch the bottom of the screen to get to these or do the four finger tap at the bottom. hope this helps > > Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia > > God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" > twitter bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > dj on www.powerradio104.us > join me on > www.tafn.org.uk > > > On 10/12/2011 8:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Can anyone using this app tell me how one gets to a list of people you're following? >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From barry.hill3 at sky.com Sat Dec 10 10:52:14 2011 From: barry.hill3 at sky.com (Barry Hill) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 10:52:14 -0000 Subject: Saving incoming numbers to contacts in IPhone Message-ID: <001c01ccb729$c7a0d450$56e27cf0$@sky.com> Hi all Is there a simple way of saving numbers from my recent calls list to contacts? Specifically, I have had someone call me who is not in my contacts list, so just their number comes up in the recents list, and I would like to add them to the contacts. Cheers Barry From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Sat Dec 10 11:46:36 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:46:36 +1100 Subject: Unzipping files In-Reply-To: References: <-1006720373906233070@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <56E4BD37-6F36-4AA1-B390-7D48272C91EF@bigpond.net.au> Hi, Unarchive has issues I have discovered when a compressed file has another compressed file within. Betterzip is a better program. Sean On 10/12/2011, at 4:26 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > The unarchiver is quite good and so is SArchiver. Also the default archive utility on mac os is good as well. > On Dec 9, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> Can someone recommend a good app for unzipping files on my MacBook pro >> Margaret >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Sat Dec 10 11:47:24 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 06:47:24 -0500 Subject: Unable to Play Music on New iPhone 4s In-Reply-To: <73E0C859-F6FB-4A71-9FA1-D9C738367D95@gmail.com> References: <0LVY00KYZROMRD99@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> <73E0C859-F6FB-4A71-9FA1-D9C738367D95@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0LVZ00HMWKR9D6C0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Sarah. Not getting any error messages, or at least VO isn't speaking any. Matthew Chao At 10:16 PM 12/9/2011, you wrote: >What error messages are you getting if any? If none try resyncing >your music library with your phone. Uncheck the music check box >under music radio button under devices and then hit apply. Now >recheck music and there ya go.. That should work. Maybe something got corrupt. >On Dec 9, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > > > Hi, Folks. Just got an iPhone 4, replacing my older iPhone > 4.s. Everything seems to work, but I can't play my tunes that are > on the phone. I double-tap, and no music. What do I need to > do? Or what am I doing wrong? Icloud restored everthing, so it > tells me. I can find all the albums, but can't hear any > music. Help appreciated. Thanks in advance.--Matt. > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 12:00:22 2011 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria, Joe and Karly) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:00:22 +1100 Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? In-Reply-To: References: <4EE32F8F.8070807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EE349D6.2050501@gmail.com> HI. can you find the tweet lists button? each list is then on a separate page. so go to the bottom of the screen, double tap tweet lists and you should have a list there with an action button back at the top of the screen. switch pages to see other lists. if i am not clear enough feel free to ask. Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com dj on www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk On 10/12/2011 9:45 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Yep, I know what you're talking about, but I can't seem to find what I want in those sections, can you perhaps be a bit more specific if possible? > > > On 10/12/2011, at 9:08 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: > >> HI. >> >> at the bottom of the screen i have tweet lists, mentions dm's etc. I normally touch the bottom of the screen to get to these or do the four finger tap at the bottom. hope this helps >> >> Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia >> >> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" >> twitter bubbygirl >> skype: bubbygirl1972 >> msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> dj on www.powerradio104.us >> join me on >> www.tafn.org.uk >> >> >> On 10/12/2011 8:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> Can anyone using this app tell me how one gets to a list of people you're following? >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 12:26:08 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 13:26:08 +0100 Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? In-Reply-To: <4EE349D6.2050501@gmail.com> References: <4EE32F8F.8070807@gmail.com> <4EE349D6.2050501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4886009C-F61A-4849-B8C1-A05EDC595DC1@gmail.com> Hi Dane, That trick works assuming that you are arranging your followers by lists. If you are not, tab "More" at the bottom right, then select "My profile" at the top and select "Following." This also applies to Followers, so choose "Followers" if you would like to see those. Regards, Nicolai On Dec 10, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: > HI. can you find the tweet lists button? each list is then on a separate page. so go to the bottom of the screen, double tap tweet lists and you should have a list there with an action button back at the top of the screen. switch pages to see other lists. > > if i am not clear enough feel free to ask. > > Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia > > God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" > twitter bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > dj on www.powerradio104.us > join me on > www.tafn.org.uk > > > On 10/12/2011 9:45 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Yep, I know what you're talking about, but I can't seem to find what I want in those sections, can you perhaps be a bit more specific if possible? >> >> >> On 10/12/2011, at 9:08 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: >> >>> HI. >>> >>> at the bottom of the screen i have tweet lists, mentions dm's etc. I normally touch the bottom of the screen to get to these or do the four finger tap at the bottom. hope this helps >>> >>> Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia >>> >>> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" >>> twitter bubbygirl >>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>> msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>> dj on www.powerradio104.us >>> join me on >>> www.tafn.org.uk >>> >>> >>> On 10/12/2011 8:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Can anyone using this app tell me how one gets to a list of people you're following? >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sat Dec 10 12:40:32 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:40:32 +0000 Subject: Saving incoming numbers to contacts in IPhone In-Reply-To: <001c01ccb729$c7a0d450$56e27cf0$@sky.com> References: <001c01ccb729$c7a0d450$56e27cf0$@sky.com> Message-ID: <401DC4E2-7A5A-4C73-BF84-9ADFEBFE0ECC@virginmedia.com> Hi Barry! Just under the number is more info! Double tap on it and in the next window is a option to make new contact! Along with others like face time and message and so on! hth Colin On 10 Dec 2011, at 10:52, Barry Hill wrote: > Hi all > > Is there a simple way of saving numbers from my recent calls list to > contacts? Specifically, I have had someone call me who is not in my > contacts list, so just their number comes up in the recents list, and I > would like to add them to the contacts. > > Cheers > > Barry > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Dec 10 12:46:08 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 08:46:08 -0400 Subject: BootCamp Question. Message-ID: <3B8B7F7239C141888B32E6610B115BC0@MainComputer> Hi Folks: I installed a Windows OS using BootCamp on my MAC Mini Server however, the audio card doesn't work. I've downloaded the updated BootCamp drivers; however, it would appear that I need to hear the soundcard in order to install the updated drivers. Is this right? Any help would be appreciated all over the place. Thanks much. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6699 (20111210) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 12:49:21 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:49:21 +0000 Subject: BootCamp Question. In-Reply-To: <3B8B7F7239C141888B32E6610B115BC0@MainComputer> References: <3B8B7F7239C141888B32E6610B115BC0@MainComputer> Message-ID: <6AAD4134-83EB-4000-B6B3-E51D3B9DAB89@gmail.com> i also want o know as i have windows seven installed under fusion i wonder, can i get bootcamp to see that rather than doing another install? On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Jim Noteworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I installed a Windows OS using BootCamp on my MAC Mini Server however, the audio card doesn't work. I've downloaded the updated BootCamp drivers; however, it would appear that I need to hear the sound card in order to install the updated drivers. Is this right? > > Any help would be appreciated all over the place. > > Thanks much. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6699 (20111210) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 12:50:03 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:50:03 +0000 Subject: BootCamp Question. In-Reply-To: <3B8B7F7239C141888B32E6610B115BC0@MainComputer> References: <3B8B7F7239C141888B32E6610B115BC0@MainComputer> Message-ID: <627DDF99-6959-47FA-B02C-0A8A80F241AB@gmail.com> Jim, I think the tools need to be installed when windows is installed from your disc but id on't know how this works now, in lion On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Jim Noteworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I installed a Windows OS using BootCamp on my MAC Mini Server however, the audio card doesn't work. I've downloaded the updated BootCamp drivers; however, it would appear that I need to hear the sound card in order to install the updated drivers. Is this right? > > Any help would be appreciated all over the place. > > Thanks much. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6699 (20111210) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From motten53 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 13:18:14 2011 From: motten53 at gmail.com (Mary Otten) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:18:14 -0800 Subject: Niticing some rather interesting behaviour on my iPad and Mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16A4262F-84FD-4051-933D-26EC8B90840E@gmail.com> Yes, Dane, I have noticed that same sluggishness in mail on the IPad when selecting messages after pressing the "edit" button. There is quite a difference with the touch screen as opposed to doing the same operation with a keyboard. The touchscreen is much worse. It was suggested that memory could be the problem, since I have the older IPad. But I've noted that even with nothing in the app switcher, and Safari tabs cleaned out, I still have sluggish responsiveness on the IPad when selecting messages for eventual deletion in Mail. Interestingly, this does not happen on the old Ipod touch 3rd gen, which has even less memory and a slower processor than my IPad, I believe. Mary Mary Otten motten53 at gmail.com From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Dec 10 13:39:13 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 13:39:13 +0000 Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher Message-ID: <3F544823-4C3E-4963-B803-7FFA88B69B84@hopewell.org.uk> A few days ago I recall seeing instructions on how to remove all Apps from the App switcher on IOS 5 when you shut down your iPhone. This involved the home key and the on/off key. I thought I had saved these instructions but alas cannot find them. Can someone please remind me how to do this and I promise I really will save them this time.! Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Dec 10 14:31:52 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:31:52 +1100 Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? In-Reply-To: <4EE349D6.2050501@gmail.com> References: <4EE32F8F.8070807@gmail.com> <4EE349D6.2050501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <09D2D0CA-069A-443D-BB3E-4B77C29B58D8@internode.on.net> ah right! I see now where you're coming from, thanks! On 10/12/2011, at 11:00 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: > HI. can you find the tweet lists button? each list is then on a separate page. so go to the bottom of the screen, double tap tweet lists and you should have a list there with an action button back at the top of the screen. switch pages to see other lists. > > if i am not clear enough feel free to ask. > > Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia > > God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" > twitter bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > dj on www.powerradio104.us > join me on > www.tafn.org.uk > > > On 10/12/2011 9:45 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Yep, I know what you're talking about, but I can't seem to find what I want in those sections, can you perhaps be a bit more specific if possible? >> >> >> On 10/12/2011, at 9:08 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: >> >>> HI. >>> >>> at the bottom of the screen i have tweet lists, mentions dm's etc. I normally touch the bottom of the screen to get to these or do the four finger tap at the bottom. hope this helps >>> >>> Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia >>> >>> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" >>> twitter bubbygirl >>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>> msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>> dj on www.powerradio104.us >>> join me on >>> www.tafn.org.uk >>> >>> >>> On 10/12/2011 8:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Can anyone using this app tell me how one gets to a list of people you're following? >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Sat Dec 10 15:28:36 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 10:28:36 -0500 Subject: Unable to Play Music on New iPhone 4s In-Reply-To: <73E0C859-F6FB-4A71-9FA1-D9C738367D95@gmail.com> References: <0LVY00KYZROMRD99@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> <73E0C859-F6FB-4A71-9FA1-D9C738367D95@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0LVZ00FV8UZQ27V1@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Sarah! I tried your suggestions, and it worked! Thanks much, and thanks that we have this list! Matthew Chao At 10:16 PM 12/9/2011, you wrote: >What error messages are you getting if any? If none try resyncing >your music library with your phone. Uncheck the music check box >under music radio button under devices and then hit apply. Now >recheck music and there ya go.. That should work. Maybe something got corrupt. >On Dec 9, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > > > Hi, Folks. Just got an iPhone 4, replacing my older iPhone > 4.s. Everything seems to work, but I can't play my tunes that are > on the phone. I double-tap, and no music. What do I need to > do? Or what am I doing wrong? Icloud restored everthing, so it > tells me. I can find all the albums, but can't hear any > music. Help appreciated. Thanks in advance.--Matt. > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 16:08:22 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:08:22 -0500 Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher In-Reply-To: <3F544823-4C3E-4963-B803-7FFA88B69B84@hopewell.org.uk> References: <3F544823-4C3E-4963-B803-7FFA88B69B84@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <015901ccb755$f16c1fc0$d4445f40$@gmail.com> Yep this is easy! just do this : from any home screen just double click the home key and this brings up the app switcher and then find any app and double tap and hold on the last tap you will hear a sound and it say editing , then lift your finger and then just double tap on any app you don't want in the app switcher when finish just hit the home key once or twice and you are out of the app switcher. Now I say do this from any home page as this make sure any app that is running in the foreground is now in the switcher. But you can double tap the home key from anywhere to get to the app switcher just that any app in the foreground will not be in it. Also if taking all apps out of the switcher you can just double tap on the switcher to get out of the switcher if want to do it that way. HTH Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:39 AM To: mac-access Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher A few days ago I recall seeing instructions on how to remove all Apps from the App switcher on IOS 5 when you shut down your iPhone. This involved the home key and the on/off key. I thought I had saved these instructions but alas cannot find them. Can someone please remind me how to do this and I promise I really will save them this time.! Many thanks. Paul Hopewell <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Dec 10 16:30:10 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 03:30:10 +1100 Subject: Electing A Default Email Acount on iPad Message-ID: <91160EFA-7107-4B2D-98D7-CABA64A550BC@internode.on.net> Hi! I want to change my default Email account on my iPad and I have several Email accounts, can anyone tell me how I go about doing this? I'm obviously missing something as I'm sure I've seen an option for this somewhere. From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Dec 10 16:31:32 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 03:31:32 +1100 Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? In-Reply-To: <4886009C-F61A-4849-B8C1-A05EDC595DC1@gmail.com> References: <4EE32F8F.8070807@gmail.com> <4EE349D6.2050501@gmail.com> <4886009C-F61A-4849-B8C1-A05EDC595DC1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5501B937-F7F4-4E23-A99A-3F93BF81D9C1@internode.on.net> no doubt about you , if there's anything to be known about Tweetlist or Twitter then you're the Gentleman with the knowledge , thanks again. On 10/12/2011, at 11:26 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Dane, > > That trick works assuming that you are arranging your followers by lists. If you are not, tab "More" at the bottom right, then select "My profile" at the top and select "Following." This also applies to Followers, so choose "Followers" if you would like to see those. > > Regards, > Nicolai > On Dec 10, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: > >> HI. can you find the tweet lists button? each list is then on a separate page. so go to the bottom of the screen, double tap tweet lists and you should have a list there with an action button back at the top of the screen. switch pages to see other lists. >> >> if i am not clear enough feel free to ask. >> >> Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia >> >> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" >> twitter bubbygirl >> skype: bubbygirl1972 >> msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> dj on www.powerradio104.us >> join me on >> www.tafn.org.uk >> >> >> On 10/12/2011 9:45 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Yep, I know what you're talking about, but I can't seem to find what I want in those sections, can you perhaps be a bit more specific if possible? >>> >>> >>> On 10/12/2011, at 9:08 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: >>> >>>> HI. >>>> >>>> at the bottom of the screen i have tweet lists, mentions dm's etc. I normally touch the bottom of the screen to get to these or do the four finger tap at the bottom. hope this helps >>>> >>>> Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia >>>> >>>> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" >>>> twitter bubbygirl >>>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>>> msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>> dj on www.powerradio104.us >>>> join me on >>>> www.tafn.org.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/12/2011 8:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone using this app tell me how one gets to a list of people you're following? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Sat Dec 10 16:54:34 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:54:34 -0500 Subject: Playing Papa Sangre with VO,the Best Way? Message-ID: <0LVZ00G3WYYZGH31@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Folks. I'm playing Papa sangre on my iPhone 4S. What's the best way to play with VO running? I ask because when I'm "walking," VO says "left, right," per footstep, but there's no moving. What should I do? Thanks. Matthew Chao From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 16:57:36 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:57:36 +0000 Subject: Playing Papa Sangre with VO,the Best Way? In-Reply-To: <0LVZ00G3WYYZGH31@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0LVZ00G3WYYZGH31@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <924EBF95-D5BE-4BBF-9F06-E9C4C81AB689@gmail.com> turn off vo with tripple click home. then on again when level ends and tap continue then off again with VO On Dec 10, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks. I'm playing Papa sangre on my iPhone 4S. What's the best way to play with VO running? I ask because when I'm "walking," VO says "left, right," per footstep, but there's no moving. What should I do? Thanks. > > Matthew Chao > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 17:25:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 09:25:40 -0800 Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: yeah. go to more, then my profile and then followers, or following, followed by the number of them. It will then load up the number of followers or followings. Take care. On Dec 10, 2011, at 1:29 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Can anyone using this app tell me how one gets to a list of people you're following? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 17:27:09 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 09:27:09 -0800 Subject: Saving incoming numbers to contacts in IPhone In-Reply-To: <401DC4E2-7A5A-4C73-BF84-9ADFEBFE0ECC@virginmedia.com> References: <001c01ccb729$c7a0d450$56e27cf0$@sky.com> <401DC4E2-7A5A-4C73-BF84-9ADFEBFE0ECC@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: Actually it's to the right if you feel the screen. On the left is the number or contact and on the right is more info. think of it like a table. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 10, 2011, at 4:40 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Barry! > Just under the number is more info! > Double tap on it and in the next window is a option to make new contact! > Along with others like face time and message and so on! > hth Colin > > On 10 Dec 2011, at 10:52, Barry Hill wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Is there a simple way of saving numbers from my recent calls list to >> contacts? Specifically, I have had someone call me who is not in my >> contacts list, so just their number comes up in the recents list, and I >> would like to add them to the contacts. >> >> Cheers >> >> Barry >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 17:28:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 09:28:29 -0800 Subject: Unzipping files In-Reply-To: <56E4BD37-6F36-4AA1-B390-7D48272C91EF@bigpond.net.au> References: <-1006720373906233070@unknownmsgid> <56E4BD37-6F36-4AA1-B390-7D48272C91EF@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <095819E7-A9CD-4BE2-8781-54FA048BF8AC@gmail.com> Iv'e never heard of that program. I use SArchiver as I have not yet had issues with it. It seems to unzip 200 mb files in about 15 seconds with no errors. Take care. On Dec 10, 2011, at 3:46 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi, > > Unarchive has issues I have discovered when a compressed file has another compressed file within. > > Betterzip is a better program. > > Sean > On 10/12/2011, at 4:26 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> The unarchiver is quite good and so is SArchiver. Also the default archive utility on mac os is good as well. >> On Dec 9, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: >> >>> Can someone recommend a good app for unzipping files on my MacBook pro >>> Margaret >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Dec 10 17:42:09 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:42:09 +0000 Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher In-Reply-To: <015901ccb755$f16c1fc0$d4445f40$@gmail.com> References: <3F544823-4C3E-4963-B803-7FFA88B69B84@hopewell.org.uk> <015901ccb755$f16c1fc0$d4445f40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, thanks - I understand the attached way to do this. However I believe there is another way which will delete all the Apps in the App switcher in one go when you power off the iPhone. that is the technique I am looking for. Best regards.... Paul Hopewell On 10 Dec 2011, at 16:08, Bubba wrote: > Yep this is easy! just do this : from any home screen just double click the > home key and this brings up the app switcher and then find any app and > double tap and hold on the last tap you will hear a sound and it say editing > , then lift your finger and then just double tap on any app you don't want > in the app switcher when finish just hit the home key once or twice and you > are out of the app switcher. Now I say do this from any home page as this > make sure any app that is running in the foreground is now in the switcher. > But you can double tap the home key from anywhere to get to the app switcher > just that any app in the foreground will not be in it. Also if taking all > apps out of the switcher you can just double tap on the switcher to get out > of the switcher if want to do it that way. HTH > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:39 AM > To: mac-access > Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher > > A few days ago I recall seeing instructions on how to remove all Apps from > the App switcher on IOS 5 when you shut down your iPhone. This involved the > home key and the on/off key. I thought I had saved these instructions but > alas cannot find them. > Can someone please remind me how to do this and I promise I really will save > them this time.! > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sat Dec 10 17:50:27 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:50:27 -0600 Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher References: <3F544823-4C3E-4963-B803-7FFA88B69B84@hopewell.org.uk><015901ccb755$f16c1fc0$d4445f40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <28BD7EC293C5496B8CBA9C6ADC8C8626@your2c061f0461> Hi, I think you don't want to delete the apps, you wish to unload them from memory, is this right? In the app switcher, tap and hold on any of the apps, and it will say editing apps. Then when you double-tap the apps in the app switcher, it will close them out until they are launched again. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hopewell" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher Hello, thanks - I understand the attached way to do this. However I believe there is another way which will delete all the Apps in the App switcher in one go when you power off the iPhone. that is the technique I am looking for. Best regards.... Paul Hopewell On 10 Dec 2011, at 16:08, Bubba wrote: > Yep this is easy! just do this : from any home screen just double click > the > home key and this brings up the app switcher and then find any app and > double tap and hold on the last tap you will hear a sound and it say > editing > , then lift your finger and then just double tap on any app you don't want > in the app switcher when finish just hit the home key once or twice and > you > are out of the app switcher. Now I say do this from any home page as this > make sure any app that is running in the foreground is now in the > switcher. > But you can double tap the home key from anywhere to get to the app > switcher > just that any app in the foreground will not be in it. Also if taking all > apps out of the switcher you can just double tap on the switcher to get > out > of the switcher if want to do it that way. HTH > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:39 AM > To: mac-access > Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher > > A few days ago I recall seeing instructions on how to remove all Apps from > the App switcher on IOS 5 when you shut down your iPhone. This involved > the > home key and the on/off key. I thought I had saved these instructions but > alas cannot find them. > Can someone please remind me how to do this and I promise I really will > save > them this time.! > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 19:14:34 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:14:34 -0500 Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher In-Reply-To: <28BD7EC293C5496B8CBA9C6ADC8C8626@your2c061f0461> References: <3F544823-4C3E-4963-B803-7FFA88B69B84@hopewell.org.uk><015901ccb755$f16c1fc0$d4445f40$@gmail.com> <28BD7EC293C5496B8CBA9C6ADC8C8626@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <002401ccb76f$f4516690$dcf433b0$@gmail.com> No there is not a way to deldelete all them or remove them all at once in the app switcher ! You cannot delete them anyhow from the app switcher and you have to remove them one at a time! HTH Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:50 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher Hi, I think you don't want to delete the apps, you wish to unload them from memory, is this right? In the app switcher, tap and hold on any of the apps, and it will say editing apps. Then when you double-tap the apps in the app switcher, it will close them out until they are launched again. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hopewell" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher Hello, thanks - I understand the attached way to do this. However I believe there is another way which will delete all the Apps in the App switcher in one go when you power off the iPhone. that is the technique I am looking for. Best regards.... Paul Hopewell On 10 Dec 2011, at 16:08, Bubba wrote: > Yep this is easy! just do this : from any home screen just double > click the home key and this brings up the app switcher and then find > any app and double tap and hold on the last tap you will hear a sound > and it say editing , then lift your finger and then just double tap on > any app you don't want in the app switcher when finish just hit the > home key once or twice and you are out of the app switcher. Now I say > do this from any home page as this make sure any app that is running > in the foreground is now in the switcher. > But you can double tap the home key from anywhere to get to the app > switcher just that any app in the foreground will not be in it. Also > if taking all apps out of the switcher you can just double tap on the > switcher to get out of the switcher if want to do it that way. HTH > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:39 AM > To: mac-access > Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher > > A few days ago I recall seeing instructions on how to remove all Apps > from the App switcher on IOS 5 when you shut down your iPhone. This > involved the home key and the on/off key. I thought I had saved these > instructions but alas cannot find them. > Can someone please remind me how to do this and I promise I really > will save them this time.! > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 19:14:51 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:14:51 -0800 Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher In-Reply-To: <28BD7EC293C5496B8CBA9C6ADC8C8626@your2c061f0461> References: <3F544823-4C3E-4963-B803-7FFA88B69B84@hopewell.org.uk><015901ccb755$f16c1fc0$d4445f40$@gmail.com> <28BD7EC293C5496B8CBA9C6ADC8C8626@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <9CBF80E9-1211-4659-9B2B-985118D1FE55@gmail.com> yeah there is no way to kill all apps from the app switcher. Only if you jail break which I would not even though it is now legal as it will still void your apple worantee. On Dec 10, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Glenn wrote: > Hi, > I think you don't want to delete the apps, you wish to unload them from > memory, is this right? > In the app switcher, tap and hold on any of the apps, and it will say > editing apps. > Then when you double-tap the apps in the app switcher, it will close them > out until they are launched again. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Hopewell" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher > > > Hello, > thanks - I understand the attached way to do this. However I believe there > is another way which will delete all the Apps in the App switcher in one go > when you power off the iPhone. that is the technique I am looking for. > Best regards.... > > Paul Hopewell > On 10 Dec 2011, at 16:08, Bubba wrote: > >> Yep this is easy! just do this : from any home screen just double click >> the >> home key and this brings up the app switcher and then find any app and >> double tap and hold on the last tap you will hear a sound and it say >> editing >> , then lift your finger and then just double tap on any app you don't want >> in the app switcher when finish just hit the home key once or twice and >> you >> are out of the app switcher. Now I say do this from any home page as this >> make sure any app that is running in the foreground is now in the >> switcher. >> But you can double tap the home key from anywhere to get to the app >> switcher >> just that any app in the foreground will not be in it. Also if taking all >> apps out of the switcher you can just double tap on the switcher to get >> out >> of the switcher if want to do it that way. HTH >> >> >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell >> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:39 AM >> To: mac-access >> Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher >> >> A few days ago I recall seeing instructions on how to remove all Apps from >> the App switcher on IOS 5 when you shut down your iPhone. This involved >> the >> home key and the on/off key. I thought I had saved these instructions but >> alas cannot find them. >> Can someone please remind me how to do this and I promise I really will >> save >> them this time.! >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 19:16:08 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:16:08 -0500 Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher In-Reply-To: References: <3F544823-4C3E-4963-B803-7FFA88B69B84@hopewell.org.uk> <015901ccb755$f16c1fc0$d4445f40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002501ccb770$2c8c3cb0$85a4b610$@gmail.com> See my previous message on this and the answer is no! you cannot remove all apps from the app switcher at once! Only one at the time! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:42 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher Hello, thanks - I understand the attached way to do this. However I believe there is another way which will delete all the Apps in the App switcher in one go when you power off the iPhone. that is the technique I am looking for. Best regards.... Paul Hopewell On 10 Dec 2011, at 16:08, Bubba wrote: > Yep this is easy! just do this : from any home screen just double > click the home key and this brings up the app switcher and then find > any app and double tap and hold on the last tap you will hear a sound > and it say editing , then lift your finger and then just double tap on > any app you don't want in the app switcher when finish just hit the > home key once or twice and you are out of the app switcher. Now I say > do this from any home page as this make sure any app that is running in the foreground is now in the switcher. > But you can double tap the home key from anywhere to get to the app > switcher just that any app in the foreground will not be in it. Also > if taking all apps out of the switcher you can just double tap on the > switcher to get out of the switcher if want to do it that way. HTH > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:39 AM > To: mac-access > Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher > > A few days ago I recall seeing instructions on how to remove all Apps > from the App switcher on IOS 5 when you shut down your iPhone. This > involved the home key and the on/off key. I thought I had saved these > instructions but alas cannot find them. > Can someone please remind me how to do this and I promise I really > will save them this time.! > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 19:21:56 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:21:56 -0500 Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher In-Reply-To: <9CBF80E9-1211-4659-9B2B-985118D1FE55@gmail.com> References: <3F544823-4C3E-4963-B803-7FFA88B69B84@hopewell.org.uk><015901ccb755$f16c1fc0$d4445f40$@gmail.com> <28BD7EC293C5496B8CBA9C6ADC8C8626@your2c061f0461> <9CBF80E9-1211-4659-9B2B-985118D1FE55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002601ccb770$fbc3e000$f34ba000$@gmail.com> Hi, JB is not illegal it is just not Apple approved. This was settled in court and it was found not to be illegal . Now it will void your warranty but they don't know it is JB if you restore it back to factory settings as this does away with all signs of JB ! JST Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:15 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher yeah there is no way to kill all apps from the app switcher. Only if you jail break which I would not even though it is now legal as it will still void your apple worantee. On Dec 10, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Glenn wrote: > Hi, > I think you don't want to delete the apps, you wish to unload them > from memory, is this right? > In the app switcher, tap and hold on any of the apps, and it will say > editing apps. > Then when you double-tap the apps in the app switcher, it will close > them out until they are launched again. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Hopewell" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher > > > Hello, > thanks - I understand the attached way to do this. However I believe > there is another way which will delete all the Apps in the App > switcher in one go when you power off the iPhone. that is the technique I am looking for. > Best regards.... > > Paul Hopewell > On 10 Dec 2011, at 16:08, Bubba wrote: > >> Yep this is easy! just do this : from any home screen just double >> click the home key and this brings up the app switcher and then find >> any app and double tap and hold on the last tap you will hear a sound >> and it say editing , then lift your finger and then just double tap >> on any app you don't want in the app switcher when finish just hit >> the home key once or twice and you are out of the app switcher. Now I >> say do this from any home page as this make sure any app that is >> running in the foreground is now in the switcher. >> But you can double tap the home key from anywhere to get to the app >> switcher just that any app in the foreground will not be in it. Also >> if taking all apps out of the switcher you can just double tap on the >> switcher to get out of the switcher if want to do it that way. HTH >> >> >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell >> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:39 AM >> To: mac-access >> Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher >> >> A few days ago I recall seeing instructions on how to remove all Apps >> from the App switcher on IOS 5 when you shut down your iPhone. This >> involved the home key and the on/off key. I thought I had saved these >> instructions but alas cannot find them. >> Can someone please remind me how to do this and I promise I really >> will save them this time.! >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From motten53 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 19:26:56 2011 From: motten53 at gmail.com (Mary Otten) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:26:56 -0800 Subject: Electing A Default Email Acount on iPad In-Reply-To: <91160EFA-7107-4B2D-98D7-CABA64A550BC@internode.on.net> References: <91160EFA-7107-4B2D-98D7-CABA64A550BC@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hi Dane, Seems to me that the way to elect the default can be found in the settings, mail, accounts area. My Ipad's not at hand right here, but I beliefe that's where I found it. Mary Mary Otten motten53 at gmail.com From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sat Dec 10 20:34:06 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:34:06 -0600 Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher References: <3F544823-4C3E-4963-B803-7FFA88B69B84@hopewell.org.uk><015901ccb755$f16c1fc0$d4445f40$@gmail.com><28BD7EC293C5496B8CBA9C6ADC8C8626@your2c061f0461> <002401ccb76f$f4516690$dcf433b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <57E37E5CA095436C8BA8FC590BC5A1B1@your2c061f0461> Bubba, Did you think I meant that? I guess I should have specified that you have to double-tap each one to close them one at a time. Anyone who has done this would know that. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:14 PM Subject: RE: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher No there is not a way to deldelete all them or remove them all at once in the app switcher ! You cannot delete them anyhow from the app switcher and you have to remove them one at a time! HTH Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:50 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher Hi, I think you don't want to delete the apps, you wish to unload them from memory, is this right? In the app switcher, tap and hold on any of the apps, and it will say editing apps. Then when you double-tap the apps in the app switcher, it will close them out until they are launched again. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hopewell" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher Hello, thanks - I understand the attached way to do this. However I believe there is another way which will delete all the Apps in the App switcher in one go when you power off the iPhone. that is the technique I am looking for. Best regards.... Paul Hopewell On 10 Dec 2011, at 16:08, Bubba wrote: > Yep this is easy! just do this : from any home screen just double > click the home key and this brings up the app switcher and then find > any app and double tap and hold on the last tap you will hear a sound > and it say editing , then lift your finger and then just double tap on > any app you don't want in the app switcher when finish just hit the > home key once or twice and you are out of the app switcher. Now I say > do this from any home page as this make sure any app that is running > in the foreground is now in the switcher. > But you can double tap the home key from anywhere to get to the app > switcher just that any app in the foreground will not be in it. Also > if taking all apps out of the switcher you can just double tap on the > switcher to get out of the switcher if want to do it that way. HTH > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:39 AM > To: mac-access > Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher > > A few days ago I recall seeing instructions on how to remove all Apps > from the App switcher on IOS 5 when you shut down your iPhone. This > involved the home key and the on/off key. I thought I had saved these > instructions but alas cannot find them. > Can someone please remind me how to do this and I promise I really > will save them this time.! > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 20:42:30 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:42:30 -0500 Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher In-Reply-To: <57E37E5CA095436C8BA8FC590BC5A1B1@your2c061f0461> References: <3F544823-4C3E-4963-B803-7FFA88B69B84@hopewell.org.uk><015901ccb755$f16c1fc0$d4445f40$@gmail.com><28BD7EC293C5496B8CBA9C6ADC8C8626@your2c061f0461> <002401ccb76f$f4516690$dcf433b0$@gmail.com> <57E37E5CA095436C8BA8FC590BC5A1B1@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <000c01ccb77c$3d0c5d70$b7251850$@gmail.com> Hi, was talking to Paul I think his name is not you Glen! At least I think that is his name as good as I can tell! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 3:34 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher Bubba, Did you think I meant that? I guess I should have specified that you have to double-tap each one to close them one at a time. Anyone who has done this would know that. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:14 PM Subject: RE: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher No there is not a way to deldelete all them or remove them all at once in the app switcher ! You cannot delete them anyhow from the app switcher and you have to remove them one at a time! HTH Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:50 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher Hi, I think you don't want to delete the apps, you wish to unload them from memory, is this right? In the app switcher, tap and hold on any of the apps, and it will say editing apps. Then when you double-tap the apps in the app switcher, it will close them out until they are launched again. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hopewell" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher Hello, thanks - I understand the attached way to do this. However I believe there is another way which will delete all the Apps in the App switcher in one go when you power off the iPhone. that is the technique I am looking for. Best regards.... Paul Hopewell On 10 Dec 2011, at 16:08, Bubba wrote: > Yep this is easy! just do this : from any home screen just double > click the home key and this brings up the app switcher and then find > any app and double tap and hold on the last tap you will hear a sound > and it say editing , then lift your finger and then just double tap on > any app you don't want in the app switcher when finish just hit the > home key once or twice and you are out of the app switcher. Now I say > do this from any home page as this make sure any app that is running > in the foreground is now in the switcher. > But you can double tap the home key from anywhere to get to the app > switcher just that any app in the foreground will not be in it. Also > if taking all apps out of the switcher you can just double tap on the > switcher to get out of the switcher if want to do it that way. HTH > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:39 AM > To: mac-access > Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher > > A few days ago I recall seeing instructions on how to remove all Apps > from the App switcher on IOS 5 when you shut down your iPhone. This > involved the home key and the on/off key. I thought I had saved these > instructions but alas cannot find them. > Can someone please remind me how to do this and I promise I really > will save them this time.! > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Dec 10 21:09:01 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:09:01 +0000 Subject: Warning about Assisted Touch Message-ID: <4EE3CA6D.2090302@techno-chat.net> I thought I would pass along an e-mail from my friend Gary Price, which details recent problems he had with his iPhone and the eventual fix. He also goes into how to fix it yourself should you run into the below problems. I am passing this along since I feel it is important what with how many members on this list, including myself, own an iOS device, such as the iPhone. Anyway, here is the message, copied and pasted from another list. I recentely had a lot of problems with my second iPhone. Basically I could not delete messages in the messages App, I could not switch to the Updates Tab in the App Store, I could not open my Music App, the pages button in Safari would not activate, and I could not clear the text in the alarm edit field in Clock. Phoned O2 up who couldn't help me, but they put me through to Apple direct. I spoke to a guy called Dave, who reckond that it was either a memory chip issue or an operating system file had got corrupted. However it turned out not to be either of these. Went down to Apple today in the Trafford Centre, managed to get an earlier appointment than my arrigional time which was great! I saw a guy called Gavin. I showed him that I couldn't clear the text in the alarm field, and the Music app decided to open didn't it! But he did notice that Assistive Touch was turned on. He turned this off for me, and ever since all my problems have just literally vanished! So please please if you are having trouble activating icons or something is not working right with VoiceOver, make sure this Assistive touch is switched off! To switch it off: 1 Go to Settings 2 Open the General part of Settings. 3 Go to Accessibility. 4 Swipe till you hear Assistive touch On. 5 Double tap this to go into it. 6 Swipe to Assistive Touch on and double tap this to turn it off. Many thanks for reading this Email and I hope this is useful! From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 21:33:20 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 13:33:20 -0800 Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher In-Reply-To: <002601ccb770$fbc3e000$f34ba000$@gmail.com> References: <3F544823-4C3E-4963-B803-7FFA88B69B84@hopewell.org.uk><015901ccb755$f16c1fc0$d4445f40$@gmail.com> <28BD7EC293C5496B8CBA9C6ADC8C8626@your2c061f0461> <9CBF80E9-1211-4659-9B2B-985118D1FE55@gmail.com> <002601ccb770$fbc3e000$f34ba000$@gmail.com> Message-ID: lol. I hear it puts a log on your phone but I always restore to factory after I'm done with the jb. but that's another thread for a day when I'm actually not stressed and can type. lol! But look it up on the cidia store if you want to go that route. On Dec 10, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Bubba wrote: > Hi, JB is not illegal it is just not Apple approved. This was settled in > court and it was found not to be illegal . Now it will void your warranty > but they don't know it is JB if you restore it back to factory settings as > this does away with all signs of JB ! JST > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:15 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher > > yeah there is no way to kill all apps from the app switcher. Only if you > jail break which I would not even though it is now legal as it will still > void your apple worantee. > On Dec 10, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Glenn wrote: > >> Hi, >> I think you don't want to delete the apps, you wish to unload them >> from memory, is this right? >> In the app switcher, tap and hold on any of the apps, and it will say >> editing apps. >> Then when you double-tap the apps in the app switcher, it will close >> them out until they are launched again. >> Glenn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paul Hopewell" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:42 AM >> Subject: Re: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher >> >> >> Hello, >> thanks - I understand the attached way to do this. However I believe >> there is another way which will delete all the Apps in the App >> switcher in one go when you power off the iPhone. that is the technique I > am looking for. >> Best regards.... >> >> Paul Hopewell >> On 10 Dec 2011, at 16:08, Bubba wrote: >> >>> Yep this is easy! just do this : from any home screen just double >>> click the home key and this brings up the app switcher and then find >>> any app and double tap and hold on the last tap you will hear a sound >>> and it say editing , then lift your finger and then just double tap >>> on any app you don't want in the app switcher when finish just hit >>> the home key once or twice and you are out of the app switcher. Now I >>> say do this from any home page as this make sure any app that is >>> running in the foreground is now in the switcher. >>> But you can double tap the home key from anywhere to get to the app >>> switcher just that any app in the foreground will not be in it. Also >>> if taking all apps out of the switcher you can just double tap on the >>> switcher to get out of the switcher if want to do it that way. HTH >>> >>> >>> Bubba >>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell >>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:39 AM >>> To: mac-access >>> Subject: Removing Apps from iPhone App switcher >>> >>> A few days ago I recall seeing instructions on how to remove all Apps >>> from the App switcher on IOS 5 when you shut down your iPhone. This >>> involved the home key and the on/off key. I thought I had saved these >>> instructions but alas cannot find them. >>> Can someone please remind me how to do this and I promise I really >>> will save them this time.! >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > >>> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rattail4 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 21:36:13 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:36:13 -0500 Subject: fixing an issue with skype Message-ID: <8894A3D1337F4CBFA3513A20AC2F9736@MQUAD> Hey all, Some time back I heard of a way to stop voiceover from skype has new window every time someone signs in or something else happens in skype. how do you do this again, or did I misread that post? From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sat Dec 10 22:02:07 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:02:07 -0600 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone Message-ID: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> Hi, I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two empty pages, page 6 and page 8. How do I remove the empty pages? Thanks From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sat Dec 10 22:23:24 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:23:24 -0600 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> Never mind, It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone Hi, I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two empty pages, page 6 and page 8. How do I remove the empty pages? Thanks <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 22:34:20 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:34:20 -0500 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone In-Reply-To: <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home button it will do away with empty pages. HTH Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone Never mind, It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone Hi, I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two empty pages, page 6 and page 8. How do I remove the empty pages? Thanks <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Sat Dec 10 22:40:42 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:40:42 -0600 Subject: wireless headset for my mac Message-ID: <05BD331A-5271-4088-8D75-594888A8F170@swbell.net> Hi everyone: Can anyone tell me how I would be able to use my wireless headset to my macbook pro? I do not understand what I need to make it notice it or where I can use it. For that matter if it can be used with my mac. Thanks in advance. From rattail4 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 23:38:49 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:38:49 -0500 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone In-Reply-To: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <0D9CF68954444F058C8C8CB204F0DB03@MQUAD> they should auto delete, mine have once I moved apps -------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 17:02 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone > Hi, > I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two > empty pages, page 6 and page 8. > How do I remove the empty pages? > Thanks > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 23:58:32 2011 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:32 +1100 Subject: Opening RAR files Message-ID: <-8475310832540280135@unknownmsgid> How can I open RAR files? Is there shortcut keys to do this or is there an app Thanks Margaret Sent from my iPhone From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 23:58:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:58:39 -0800 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone In-Reply-To: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: I think you just hit the home key and it shoudl organise itself. Iv'e never had 2 even pages empty as I go from page 7 to 6 to 5 and so forth. Good luck. On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Glenn wrote: > Hi, > I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two > empty pages, page 6 and page 8. > How do I remove the empty pages? > Thanks > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 23:59:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:59:39 -0800 Subject: Opening RAR files In-Reply-To: <-8475310832540280135@unknownmsgid> References: <-8475310832540280135@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: You will want an app called the unarchiver. You can find it at www.downloads.com. Take care. On Dec 10, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > How can I open RAR files? Is there shortcut keys to do this or is > there an app > Thanks > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 00:00:11 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:00:11 -0800 Subject: wireless headset for my mac In-Reply-To: <05BD331A-5271-4088-8D75-594888A8F170@swbell.net> References: <05BD331A-5271-4088-8D75-594888A8F170@swbell.net> Message-ID: <6A8B0C68-2929-4E60-BA80-C82F20B65908@gmail.com> What kind of headset does it have. Does it have a transmiter to plug in to your mac? Take care. On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:40 PM, michael maslo wrote: > Hi everyone: > > Can anyone tell me how I would be able to use my wireless headset to my macbook pro? I do not understand what I need to make it notice it or where I can use it. > > For that matter if it can be used with my mac. > > Thanks in advance. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rattail4 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 00:28:01 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:28:01 -0500 Subject: Opening RAR files In-Reply-To: <-8475310832540280135@unknownmsgid> References: <-8475310832540280135@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <1C6C7BD84F3C4ED4B2817464FBAA298C@MQUAD> the best option is called the unarchiver, it's amazingly powerful, can open most archives -------------------------------------------------- From: "Margaret Booth" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 18:58 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Opening RAR files > How can I open RAR files? Is there shortcut keys to do this or is > there an app > Thanks > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sun Dec 11 00:32:50 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:32:50 -1000 Subject: Opening RAR files In-Reply-To: References: <-8475310832540280135@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <11E2EB96-3D7E-4432-B51C-BB365B820E41@mac.com> Hi Sarah, I concur with your recommendation of the Unarchiver, but I suggest that people would be better off getting their software from the MacUpdate site over CNET's www.downloads.com site: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/22774/the-unarchiver CNET has started bundling malware and, at the very least, unwanted advertisements with the downloader you have to use for their site. See the recent Daring Fireball column by John Gruber for details: ? CNet Is Bundling Open Source Software With Malware (December 6, 2011) http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/12/06/cnet-crapware Cheers, Esther On Dec 10, 2011, at 13:59, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You will want an app called the unarchiver. You can find it at www.downloads.com. > > Take care. > On Dec 10, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> How can I open RAR files? Is there shortcut keys to do this or is >> there an app >> Thanks >> Margaret >> >> From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Sun Dec 11 00:32:54 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:32:54 -0600 Subject: wireless headset for my mac In-Reply-To: <6A8B0C68-2929-4E60-BA80-C82F20B65908@gmail.com> References: <05BD331A-5271-4088-8D75-594888A8F170@swbell.net> <6A8B0C68-2929-4E60-BA80-C82F20B65908@gmail.com> Message-ID: <786196C0-2D73-4B3A-9B52-C383BB2C5BDE@swbell.net> Yes I am sorry it has a connector but it appears to be one that you plug into the headset to charge but I can't tell yet if it is needed once it is charged up. On Dec 10, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > What kind of headset does it have. Does it have a transmiter to plug in to your mac? > > Take care. > On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:40 PM, michael maslo wrote: > >> Hi everyone: >> >> Can anyone tell me how I would be able to use my wireless headset to my macbook pro? I do not understand what I need to make it notice it or where I can use it. >> >> For that matter if it can be used with my mac. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 01:13:25 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:13:25 -0600 Subject: converting dvd's into iTunes compatible files Message-ID: <955B695642F244588C6F80D7386629DA@joseph1> how does one do this on the Mac? what programs are there, that're accessible, mind you? From lyewchan at telus.net Sun Dec 11 05:37:40 2011 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:37:40 -0800 Subject: accessible calendar Message-ID: Hi there. Is there a calendar one can use with voice over and you can put your dates and things to remember in and it will remind you when the time comes? Thanks. Lovette From rattail4 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 05:56:02 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:56:02 -0500 Subject: accessible calendar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01B3A2DE5BCB4CA6A05292579BFB78E7@MQUAD> the calender app on the mac already does this if I'm not mistaken -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lovette Yewchan" Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 0:37 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: accessible calendar > Hi there. Is there a calendar one can use with voice over and you can put > your dates and things to remember in and it will remind you when the time > comes? > Thanks. > Lovette > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Sun Dec 11 06:09:18 2011 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:09:18 -0800 Subject: accessible calendar In-Reply-To: <01B3A2DE5BCB4CA6A05292579BFB78E7@MQUAD> References: <01B3A2DE5BCB4CA6A05292579BFB78E7@MQUAD> Message-ID: <6A1B7909-D187-418A-BD94-3AE2F94A3C64@telus.net> How do I learn how to use it then? Thanks. Lovette On 2011-12-10, at 9:56 PM, Mike Welty wrote: > the calender app on the mac already does this if I'm not mistaken > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Lovette Yewchan" > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 0:37 > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Subject: accessible calendar > >> Hi there. Is there a calendar one can use with voice over and you can put your dates and things to remember in and it will remind you when the time comes? >> Thanks. >> Lovette >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 06:28:55 2011 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:28:55 +1100 Subject: Opening links in an email to change Internet Message-ID: <2350823254461827333@unknownmsgid> When I open a link in an email in mail on my MacBook pro it goes to fire fox What I want to know is how do I change it to open in safari? Sorry for all of these questions and thanks for ur help. Margaret Sent from my iPhone From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 07:12:39 2011 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:12:39 +1100 Subject: deleting addresses in mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001b01ccb7d4$4732e7d0$d598b770$@com> What do you mean by a "window" menu when automatically filled in addresses? What shortcut key do I use to go there? Sorry I don't know what you mean I am still learning about the Mac. I have learnt a lot from this list but I am still learning. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of James AUSTIN Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2011 8:21 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: deleting addresses in mail Hi Mark, To remove addresses that are automatically filled in when sending a message. go to the "Window" menu. You'll find a menu option called "Previous Recipients". You can remove them from there. This should not affect the names and addresses in your address book. TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 22 Nov 2011, at 20:10, Sarah Alawami wrote: > go to window and prior recipients. Now find the ones you want to get rid of and remove them. > > there's also a file you can delete but I can't remember which one it is at the moment so go this rout until someone suggests otherwise. > On Nov 22, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Mark Furness wrote: > >> How does one delete email addresses, which are automatically filled in, while sending emails >> >> I knew, but forgot where to go. >> >> Mark? >> I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Sun Dec 11 08:33:22 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:33:22 +1100 Subject: Opening links in an email to change Internet In-Reply-To: <2350823254461827333@unknownmsgid> References: <2350823254461827333@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Margaret, You might have to go into Firefox options and turn it off within there. I didn't see anything within Safari to force it to be the default browser. Sean On 11/12/2011, at 5:28 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > When I open a link in an email in mail on my MacBook pro it goes to > fire fox What I want to know is how do I change it to open in > safari? > Sorry for all of these questions and thanks for ur help. > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com Sun Dec 11 09:21:27 2011 From: bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com (Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:21:27 +0000 Subject: navigating to a longdesc link in an image In-Reply-To: <48C2B439-C76A-46A9-B5B6-786E7506C9BD@verizon.net> References: <1A05DA58-3138-4127-8C43-2A08B2EFDF72@gmail.com> <084BFD67-7935-4FB2-A761-13D2806BBD83@verizon.net> <48C2B439-C76A-46A9-B5B6-786E7506C9BD@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Carolyn Wagner wrote: > I cannot share the url of the page I am working with, but I can tell you that a link was added under the image linking to a long description page, in addition to the longdesc attribute in the image tag. Interesting, thanks. > I am curious how the aria-describedby attribute would be used. Would it be included in the image tag, or a surrounding div tag? Do you have any example you can point me to? Or can you provide an example of it used in source code? In it's simplest form: Short text alternative

Note: * Unlike with longdesc, typical AT setups will read the element referenced by aria-describedby automatically when the image is encountered. This is not always agreed to be an advantage. * The element referenced by aria-describedby can be anywhere on the same page. * You can reference elements in different parts of the page using a space separated list (#part1 #part2), and AT will join the text together. * This technique is not suitable for text alternatives consisting of structural markup like tables since only the text will be put in the accessibility tree, not the structure. * You can add JS to hide or show the element when a button is pushed (perhaps an "info" icon) to minimize visual impact. Even when the element is hidden with CSS, AT should still read the content when the image is encountered. This also has the advantage of hiding it from the normal reading flow which will stop typical AT setups from reading it again. In the future you should be able to use the HTML5
element instead of JS. -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Dec 11 09:33:31 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:33:31 +1100 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone In-Reply-To: <001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> <001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have no way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where ever you drop it On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: > Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home button it > will do away with empty pages. HTH > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone > > Never mind, > It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenn" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM > Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone > > > Hi, > I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two > empty pages, page 6 and page 8. > How do I remove the empty pages? > Thanks > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From godfearer at comcast.net Sun Dec 11 09:40:50 2011 From: godfearer at comcast.net (robert doc Wright) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:40:50 -0700 Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? References: Message-ID: <3D38BBA02F0444FCB595464EE34CDAD3@Media> have you tried twitterific? What I like about it is that it shows replies and the the message that that reply refers to. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:29 AM Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? > Hi! > > Can anyone using this app tell me how one gets to a list of people you're > following? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Dec 11 10:13:56 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane trethowan) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:13:56 +1100 Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? In-Reply-To: <3D38BBA02F0444FCB595464EE34CDAD3@Media> References: <3D38BBA02F0444FCB595464EE34CDAD3@Media> Message-ID: <4EE48264.9000809@internode.on.net> Hi! You can do that in Tweetlist too! though given the layout of the app it requires a few taps to get to the right view, as you can see from the discussion in this thread the layout of the app can be a little confusing at times .. Tweetlist is probably one of the best Twitter clients I've used for an IOS device but there's possibly one huge flaw with the app and that is the lack of notifications when new Tweets arrive. Supposing you're not activily running the app then forget about knowing if anything's happening on your Twitter, no push notifications or anything of that sort, I know other Tweetlist users have requested such featuresw and these requests have been made for quite some time. Now I'm one who doesn't rely on Twitter notifications but I'm sure there are many people who do and i can see why, its my belief that Twitter will take over from Email before too long but that's another topic for another list and another day . On 11/12/2011 8:40 PM, robert doc Wright wrote: > have you tried twitterific? What I like about it is that it shows > replies and the the message that that reply refers to. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" > > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:29 AM > Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? > > >> Hi! >> >> Can anyone using this app tell me how one gets to a list of people >> you're following? >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Dec 11 12:47:35 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:47:35 +1100 Subject: Connecting to sites using SSH protocol Message-ID: Hi! Did anyone find a way of doing this with the Mac? Seems that Transmit doesn't support this unfortunately. From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sun Dec 11 13:30:49 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:30:49 +0000 Subject: deleting addresses in mail In-Reply-To: <001b01ccb7d4$4732e7d0$d598b770$@com> References: <001b01ccb7d4$4732e7d0$d598b770$@com> Message-ID: Hi Margaret! Ok you can either use vo+m to get to main menu or control+f2 to do the same! then if you type W it will take you to the window menu! just down arrow to previous Previous Recipients or at the top of the menu just hit the down arrow once and then type pr and that will also take you there! Then just vo space on it and you'll end up on a search field then either arrow or tab to the table of names then scroll through the list and hit delete on a name to remove it! hth Colin Qapla! On 11 Dec 2011, at 07:12, Margaret Booth wrote: > What do you mean by a "window" menu when automatically filled in addresses? > What shortcut key do I use to go there? Sorry I don't know what you mean I > am still learning about the Mac. I have learnt a lot from this list but I am > still learning. > Margaret > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of James AUSTIN > Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2011 8:21 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: deleting addresses in mail > > Hi Mark, > > To remove addresses that are automatically filled in when sending a message. > go to the "Window" menu. You'll find a menu option called "Previous > Recipients". > > You can remove them from there. This should not affect the names and > addresses in your address book. > > TC :) > J > You can contact me in the following ways: > E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who > you are when you send a request. Thank you > > On 22 Nov 2011, at 20:10, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> go to window and prior recipients. Now find the ones you want to get rid > of and remove them. >> >> there's also a file you can delete but I can't remember which one it is at > the moment so go this rout until someone suggests otherwise. >> On Nov 22, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Mark Furness wrote: >> >>> How does one delete email addresses, which are automatically filled in, > while sending emails >>> >>> I knew, but forgot where to go. >>> >>> Mark? >>> I thought I was a god, but > then found out I'm only dyslexic. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Dec 11 13:45:00 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:45:00 +1100 Subject: Default account on iPad, thanks Message-ID: Thanks to those who replied to my question regarding changing default email account on iPad, I found the option you were referring to and thus have changed it. Sent from my iPad From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 11 13:53:25 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:53:25 +0000 Subject: Default account on iPad, thanks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80AF830B-011C-4951-92E9-D2D9088D0321@mac-access.net> Glad we can all help where we can. lew On 11 Dec 2011, at 13:45, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Thanks to those who replied to my question regarding changing default email account on iPad, I found the option you were referring to and thus have changed it. > > > > Sent from my iPad > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 14:03:33 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:03:33 -0500 Subject: accessible calendar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003f01ccb80d$ac100b40$043021c0$@gmail.com> Hi, is this on the Mac or IOS devices? Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lovette Yewchan Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:38 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: accessible calendar Hi there. Is there a calendar one can use with voice over and you can put your dates and things to remember in and it will remind you when the time comes? Thanks. Lovette <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 14:06:01 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:06:01 -0500 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> <001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004001ccb80e$04562870$0d027950$@gmail.com> I don't find this true at all I can tell exactly where I am going and what I am doing on both my iphone3gs and ipad running the latest IOS on them. JMT Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of krystal watson Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:34 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have no way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where ever you drop it On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: > Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home > button it will do away with empty pages. HTH > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone > > Never mind, > It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenn" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM > Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone > > > Hi, > I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have > two empty pages, page 6 and page 8. > How do I remove the empty pages? > Thanks > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From barry.hill3 at sky.com Sun Dec 11 16:26:23 2011 From: barry.hill3 at sky.com (Barry Hill) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:26:23 -0000 Subject: Saving incoming numbers to contacts in IPhone In-Reply-To: References: <001c01ccb729$c7a0d450$56e27cf0$@sky.com> <401DC4E2-7A5A-4C73-BF84-9ADFEBFE0ECC@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <00f001ccb821$9ff8b550$dfea1ff0$@sky.com> Thanks, both. I've got it and sorted it now. Pretty good that info button. Cheers Barry -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: 10 December 2011 5:27 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Saving incoming numbers to contacts in IPhone Actually it's to the right if you feel the screen. On the left is the number or contact and on the right is more info. think of it like a table. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 10, 2011, at 4:40 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Barry! > Just under the number is more info! > Double tap on it and in the next window is a option to make new contact! > Along with others like face time and message and so on! > hth Colin > > On 10 Dec 2011, at 10:52, Barry Hill wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Is there a simple way of saving numbers from my recent calls list to >> contacts? Specifically, I have had someone call me who is not in my >> contacts list, so just their number comes up in the recents list, and >> I would like to add them to the contacts. >> >> Cheers >> >> Barry >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From rattail4 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 17:32:02 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:32:02 -0500 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461><4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461><001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <16CDF6FA690C4C2890598FD4991D8692@MQUAD> Not with IOS 5, I think they updated some stuff in that regard -------------------------------------------------- From: "krystal watson" Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:33 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone > its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have no > way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where > ever you drop it > On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: > >> Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home button >> it >> will do away with empty pages. HTH >> >> >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn >> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone >> >> Never mind, >> It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. >> Glenn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Glenn" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM >> Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone >> >> >> Hi, >> I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two >> empty pages, page 6 and page 8. >> How do I remove the empty pages? >> Thanks >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 18:19:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:19:40 -0800 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> <001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Actually that's not true. I can move things accurately. Basically you have a 8 by 8 matrix. the first column is the folders and the beep is the blank spot so just memorize that and you are fine. I can now move an app in seconds, or rather 2 depending on where I am and if I have to wait for the pause of a page change. On Dec 11, 2011, at 1:33 AM, krystal watson wrote: > its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have no way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where ever you drop it > On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: > >> Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home button it >> will do away with empty pages. HTH >> >> >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn >> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone >> >> Never mind, >> It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. >> Glenn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Glenn" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM >> Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone >> >> >> Hi, >> I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two >> empty pages, page 6 and page 8. >> How do I remove the empty pages? >> Thanks >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 18:20:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:20:15 -0800 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone In-Reply-To: <16CDF6FA690C4C2890598FD4991D8692@MQUAD> References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461><4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461><001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> <16CDF6FA690C4C2890598FD4991D8692@MQUAD> Message-ID: <84AD2FB2-B75E-4D9F-AE57-54FEA240BEE1@gmail.com> jYeah I notice the peeps are a bit more clear when I'm moving stuff. and it's a lot faster to do it I notice. Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Mike Welty wrote: > Not with IOS 5, I think they updated some stuff in that regard > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "krystal watson" > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:33 > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone > >> its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have no way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where ever you drop it >> On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: >> >>> Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home button it >>> will do away with empty pages. HTH >>> >>> >>> Bubba >>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn >>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>> >>> Never mind, >>> It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. >>> Glenn >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM >>> Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two >>> empty pages, page 6 and page 8. >>> How do I remove the empty pages? >>> Thanks >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 18:22:31 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:22:31 -0800 Subject: accessible calendar In-Reply-To: <6A1B7909-D187-418A-BD94-3AE2F94A3C64@telus.net> References: <01B3A2DE5BCB4CA6A05292579BFB78E7@MQUAD> <6A1B7909-D187-418A-BD94-3AE2F94A3C64@telus.net> Message-ID: <13A6DBC7-42DD-4EF9-AAA4-25B3CAE16ABD@gmail.com> You just play with it. Set a fake appointment and test it. the cool thing is now you can say Pick me up to go to school at 11:39 am when you enter the new event and it will put the time in correctly. You still have to fill in the location but that's no biggy. i've even done phil 101 in 3 days at 12:30 pm and it filed it correctly as I at the time did this on a sunday and I had my class on a wednesday. Take care. On Dec 10, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > How do I learn how to use it then? > Thanks. > Lovette > > On 2011-12-10, at 9:56 PM, Mike Welty wrote: > >> the calender app on the mac already does this if I'm not mistaken >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Lovette Yewchan" >> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 0:37 >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Subject: accessible calendar >> >>> Hi there. Is there a calendar one can use with voice over and you can put your dates and things to remember in and it will remind you when the time comes? >>> Thanks. >>> Lovette >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 18:24:16 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:24:16 -0800 Subject: Connecting to sites using SSH protocol In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Never heard of setting a ftp sight to ssh but there is sftp which a friend of mine uses to connect to me every once in a while. through his ftp client on another os. SFTP is supported in transmit. I've not used it but it is there. On Dec 11, 2011, at 4:47 AM, Dane trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Did anyone find a way of doing this with the Mac? Seems that Transmit doesn't support this unfortunately. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 18:25:28 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:25:28 -0800 Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? In-Reply-To: <4EE48264.9000809@internode.on.net> References: <3D38BBA02F0444FCB595464EE34CDAD3@Media> <4EE48264.9000809@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <3B03DB6A-3C2C-4A1F-B5C8-14DB14D44F37@gmail.com> I did a podcast on this app actually with tweetlists' help at http://marrie.podbean.com The layout is quite easy to navigate in my opinion and i tis very streamlined. How they did that i dunno. Now if they would only develop push notifications but tha'ts another rmatter. On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:13 AM, Dane trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > You can do that in Tweetlist too! though given the layout of the app it requires a few taps to get to the right view, as you can see from the discussion in this thread the layout of the app can be a little confusing at times .. > > Tweetlist is probably one of the best Twitter clients I've used for an IOS device but there's possibly one huge flaw with the app and that is the lack of notifications when new Tweets arrive. > > Supposing you're not activily running the app then forget about knowing if anything's happening on your Twitter, no push notifications or anything of that sort, I know other Tweetlist users have requested such featuresw and these requests have been made for quite some time. > > Now I'm one who doesn't rely on Twitter notifications but I'm sure there are many people who do and i can see why, its my belief that Twitter will take over from Email before too long but that's another topic for another list and another day . > > > > On 11/12/2011 8:40 PM, robert doc Wright wrote: >> have you tried twitterific? What I like about it is that it shows replies and the the message that that reply refers to. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:29 AM >> Subject: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad? >> >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Can anyone using this app tell me how one gets to a list of people you're following? >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 18:27:44 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:27:44 -0800 Subject: Opening links in an email to change Internet In-Reply-To: References: <2350823254461827333@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <138DB123-E110-4A96-8844-2AA8882AEDF3@gmail.com> Hello. Go in to safari and go to prefs Now go to the general tab and there's a pop up that shows the web browsers you have installed. Choose safari or in my case webkit and then close the pop up with vo space and close the prefs. On Dec 11, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Margaret, > > > You might have to go into Firefox options and turn it off within there. I didn't see anything within Safari to force it to be the default browser. > > Sean From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 18:28:55 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:28:55 -0800 Subject: converting dvd's into iTunes compatible files In-Reply-To: <955B695642F244588C6F80D7386629DA@joseph1> References: <955B695642F244588C6F80D7386629DA@joseph1> Message-ID: <9FC9BD36-72F8-46B4-A124-7DDB97D14781@gmail.com> Use a neat program called handbrake. Look at http://feeds2.feedburner.com/funfilled for more info on how to use it as I did it and it took about an hour but I stopped the recording while it did its thing lol! On Dec 10, 2011, at 5:13 PM, joe quinn wrote: > how does one do this on the Mac? what programs are there, that're accessible, mind you? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 18:30:30 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:30:30 -0800 Subject: wireless headset for my mac In-Reply-To: <786196C0-2D73-4B3A-9B52-C383BB2C5BDE@swbell.net> References: <05BD331A-5271-4088-8D75-594888A8F170@swbell.net> <6A8B0C68-2929-4E60-BA80-C82F20B65908@gmail.com> <786196C0-2D73-4B3A-9B52-C383BB2C5BDE@swbell.net> Message-ID: Ok. What I meant does your headphone have a transmitter that you plug in to the computer via usb?? If not I don't see a way that this could work. unless your transmiter plugs in to your computer and via the headphone jack and you have to choose the channel to which you want to connect. On Dec 10, 2011, at 4:32 PM, michael maslo wrote: > Yes I am sorry it has a connector but it appears to be one that you plug into the headset to charge but I can't tell yet if it is needed once it is charged up. > On Dec 10, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> What kind of headset does it have. Does it have a transmiter to plug in to your mac? >> >> Take care. >> On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:40 PM, michael maslo wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone: >>> >>> Can anyone tell me how I would be able to use my wireless headset to my macbook pro? I do not understand what I need to make it notice it or where I can use it. >>> >>> For that matter if it can be used with my mac. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Dec 11 20:25:00 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:25:00 +0000 Subject: an i-phone 4 problem Message-ID: <4ee50f10.e555b40a.512c.ffffd49e@mx.google.com> until i can conveniently upgrade to the 4 s, i am having a problem with my i-phone 4. when i go into emails, if i have a few messages in a thread for example my i-phone seems to be very sluggish while scrolling through emails. i cannot understand why my i-phone 4 has become so slow when doing certain things like reading emails and texts. the only thing i can think of is that it is to do with the latest version of ios and my i-phone 4. if i try to move faster it also is known to jump while struggling to scroll through items. how do i resolve this problem? From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sun Dec 11 20:28:34 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:28:34 -0600 Subject: an i-phone 4 problem References: <4ee50f10.e555b40a.512c.ffffd49e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Michael, Maybe you have too many programs running. Restarting the phone does not close them, they will all open again on restart. Double-tap the home key and bring up the app switcher. Tap and hold one of the apps until it says "editing apps". Then double-tap each app until the app switcher says "no more apps". Then close the app switcher, and restart your phone, and let us know if that helps. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael weaver" To: Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:25 PM Subject: an i-phone 4 problem until i can conveniently upgrade to the 4 s, i am having a problem with my i-phone 4. when i go into emails, if i have a few messages in a thread for example my i-phone seems to be very sluggish while scrolling through emails. i cannot understand why my i-phone 4 has become so slow when doing certain things like reading emails and texts. the only thing i can think of is that it is to do with the latest version of ios and my i-phone 4. if i try to move faster it also is known to jump while struggling to scroll through items. how do i resolve this problem? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 20:30:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:30:48 -0800 Subject: an i-phone 4 problem In-Reply-To: References: <4ee50f10.e555b40a.512c.ffffd49e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4CF67B93-CA93-4993-946A-FEEEB7552A4C@gmail.com> Do what he says until you restart the phone. Instead of doing that reset the spring board by hitting power 5 times in rapid succession. It is way quicker then a reboot. I believe I only reboot about 1 time every month or so but I just reset the spring board and it seems to speed everything up, Take care. On Dec 11, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Glenn wrote: > Michael, > Maybe you have too many programs running. > Restarting the phone does not close them, they will all open again on > restart. > Double-tap the home key and bring up the app switcher. > Tap and hold one of the apps until it says "editing apps". > Then double-tap each app until the app switcher says "no more apps". > Then close the app switcher, and restart your phone, and let us know if that > helps. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael weaver" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:25 PM > Subject: an i-phone 4 problem > > > until i can conveniently upgrade to the 4 s, i am having a > problem with my i-phone 4. > when i go into emails, if i have a few messages in a thread for > example my i-phone seems to be very sluggish while scrolling > through emails. > i cannot understand why my i-phone 4 has become so slow when > doing certain things like reading emails and texts. > the only thing i can think of is that it is to do with the latest > version of ios and my i-phone 4. > if i try to move faster it also is known to jump while struggling > to scroll through items. > how do i resolve this problem? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rattail4 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 20:33:04 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:33:04 -0500 Subject: an i-phone 4 problem In-Reply-To: <4ee50f10.e555b40a.512c.ffffd49e@mx.google.com> References: <4ee50f10.e555b40a.512c.ffffd49e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <538A3339433E42758DC00451E56A62F7@MQUAD> First, how much data do you have on your phone in email and texts? the more stuff you have the slower it could be with trying to sort through all the data. I ask this as my IPhone 4 is running IOS 5 and isn't sluggish what so ever and I text a great deal. if anything it runs faster. -------------------------------------------------- From: "michael weaver" Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 15:25 To: Subject: an i-phone 4 problem > until i can conveniently upgrade to the 4 s, i am having a problem with my > i-phone 4. > when i go into emails, if i have a few messages in a thread for example my > i-phone seems to be very sluggish while scrolling through emails. > i cannot understand why my i-phone 4 has become so slow when doing certain > things like reading emails and texts. > the only thing i can think of is that it is to do with the latest version > of ios and my i-phone 4. > if i try to move faster it also is known to jump while struggling to > scroll through items. > how do i resolve this problem? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 20:33:27 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:33:27 -0500 Subject: an I-phone 4 problem Message-ID: <007101ccb844$243e6ea0$6cbb4be0$@gmail.com> Yes, this would be my starting point! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 3:29 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: an i-phone 4 problem Michael, Maybe you have too many programs running. Restarting the phone does not close them, they will all open again on restart. Double-tap the home key and bring up the app switcher. Tap and hold one of the apps until it says "editing apps". Then double-tap each app until the app switcher says "no more apps". Then close the app switcher, and restart your phone, and let us know if that helps. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael weaver" To: Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:25 PM Subject: an i-phone 4 problem until i can conveniently upgrade to the 4 s, i am having a problem with my i-phone 4. when i go into emails, if i have a few messages in a thread for example my i-phone seems to be very sluggish while scrolling through emails. i cannot understand why my i-phone 4 has become so slow when doing certain things like reading emails and texts. the only thing i can think of is that it is to do with the latest version of ios and my i-phone 4. if i try to move faster it also is known to jump while struggling to scroll through items. how do i resolve this problem? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 21:23:00 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:23:00 -0800 Subject: an i-phone 4 problem In-Reply-To: <538A3339433E42758DC00451E56A62F7@MQUAD> References: <4ee50f10.e555b40a.512c.ffffd49e@mx.google.com> <538A3339433E42758DC00451E56A62F7@MQUAD> Message-ID: <3354EB00-6446-495E-949F-3213C8FAE03D@gmail.com> Yeah same here. I would clear out your text messages from 6 months ago. lol! I had to do that with mine. Also turn off what you don't use under spotlight so when you search it won't be as clunky. On Dec 11, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Mike Welty wrote: > First, how much data do you have on your phone in email and texts? the more stuff you have the slower it could be with trying to sort through all the data. I ask this as my IPhone 4 is running IOS 5 and isn't sluggish what so ever and I text a great deal. if anything it runs faster. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "michael weaver" > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 15:25 > To: > Subject: an i-phone 4 problem > >> until i can conveniently upgrade to the 4 s, i am having a problem with my i-phone 4. >> when i go into emails, if i have a few messages in a thread for example my i-phone seems to be very sluggish while scrolling through emails. >> i cannot understand why my i-phone 4 has become so slow when doing certain things like reading emails and texts. >> the only thing i can think of is that it is to do with the latest version of ios and my i-phone 4. >> if i try to move faster it also is known to jump while struggling to scroll through items. >> how do i resolve this problem? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sun Dec 11 22:31:55 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:31:55 -0000 Subject: Ergonomic Keyboard again. Message-ID: <396695.64425.qm@smtp817.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I have finally found a UK supplier who will provide a high quality ergonomic keyboard for the Mac. It is very expensive compared to Windows versions but I would buy it like a shot because I am fairly desperate to have comfortable typing again. However there is one problem. The keyboard does not have a numeric keypad and I am a fan of num pad commander. The suggestion that they have made to me is that I purchase a separate numpad keyboard from them to go with the ergonomic keyboard . The numpad keyboards they sell are standard PC USB devices but they believe that they will work on a Mac. Having found it impossible to connect a windows ergonomic keyboard which is compatible with the Mac I am suspicious of claims that things should be compatible. Does anybody have successful experience of using a separate numpad keyboard with the Mac? Regards David Griffith __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From moriond at mac.com Sun Dec 11 22:41:20 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:41:20 -1000 Subject: MacLegion 2011 Winter Bundle of 10 apps for $49.99 including Nisus Writer Pro ending soon Message-ID: Hi All, This is just a reminder post for those of you who may be interested in the MacLegion 2011 Winter Bundle that there is one day remaining. Purchasing these 10 apps for the bundle price of $49.99 entitles you to the full support of regular purchases and updates. I think the main items of interest are Nisus Writer Pro, which had a major version update a few months ago, and which normally lists for $79.00, and MacGourmet Deluxe, which normally lists for $49.95. In addition, the first 10,000 bundle purchases will also get MacScan, which normally lists for $29.95, as a free app. MacScan will scan your machine for spyware or other privacy violations. You can designate licenses for apps you already own to be gifted to other users on the check-out page. If you've been thinking of getting any of these apps, the total bundle price of $49.99 for 10 apps (or 11 if you act early) makes this a very good deal. You can download a trial version of Nisus Writer Pro, or MacGourmet Deluxe if you want to check things out before buying the bundle. I think that AppDelete for cleaning up after apps your remove is another app known to be accessible, but I'm not sure of the status of the remaining apps. This deal runs for a little over 1 more day. Here's the URL: http://maclegion.com Also, if you get MacScan, be aware that when you first run the app you'll get a message saying that VoiceOver has no windows. Just press "Return" to get past the authentication window that VoiceOver isn't reading, and everything from that point on is accessible. Cheers, Esther From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sun Dec 11 22:49:51 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:49:51 +0000 Subject: MacLegion 2011 Winter Bundle of 10 apps for $49.99 including Nisus Writer Pro ending soon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all! I grabbed this and will just add it cost me just over 32 pounds! For those who would like to know that! Colin On 11 Dec 2011, at 22:41, Esther wrote: > Hi All, > > This is just a reminder post for those of you who may be interested in the MacLegion 2011 Winter Bundle that there is one day remaining. Purchasing these 10 apps for the bundle price of $49.99 entitles you to the full support of regular purchases and updates. I think the main items of interest are Nisus Writer Pro, which had a major version update a few months ago, and which normally lists for $79.00, and MacGourmet Deluxe, which normally lists for $49.95. In addition, the first 10,000 bundle purchases will also get MacScan, which normally lists for $29.95, as a free app. MacScan will scan your machine for spyware or other privacy violations. You can designate licenses for apps you already own to be gifted to other users on the check-out page. If you've been thinking of getting any of these apps, the total bundle price of $49.99 for 10 apps (or 11 if you act early) makes this a very good deal. You can download a trial version of Nisus Writer Pro, or MacGourmet Deluxe if you > want to check things out before buying the bundle. I think that AppDelete for cleaning up after apps your remove is another app known to be accessible, but I'm not sure of the status of the remaining apps. This deal runs for a little over 1 more day. Here's the URL: > > http://maclegion.com > > Also, if you get MacScan, be aware that when you first run the app you'll get a message saying that VoiceOver has no windows. Just press "Return" to get past the authentication window that VoiceOver isn't reading, and everything from that point on is accessible. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Mon Dec 12 01:33:10 2011 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:33:10 -0800 Subject: accessible calendar In-Reply-To: <003f01ccb80d$ac100b40$043021c0$@gmail.com> References: <003f01ccb80d$ac100b40$043021c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: on a mac. On 2011-12-11, at 6:03 AM, Bubba wrote: > Hi, is this on the Mac or IOS devices? > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lovette Yewchan > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:38 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: accessible calendar > > Hi there. Is there a calendar one can use with voice over and you can put > your dates and things to remember in and it will remind you when the time > comes? > Thanks. > Lovette > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 03:11:11 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:11:11 -0800 Subject: accessible calendar In-Reply-To: References: <003f01ccb80d$ac100b40$043021c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yep. See my reply if it made it on how to create a new event. there is a bit ofa bug when you try and let'ss ay start a class on monday and wednesdays from 11:12 but all in all it is quite usable. On Dec 11, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > on a mac. > > On 2011-12-11, at 6:03 AM, Bubba wrote: > >> Hi, is this on the Mac or IOS devices? >> >> >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lovette Yewchan >> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:38 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: accessible calendar >> >> Hi there. Is there a calendar one can use with voice over and you can put >> your dates and things to remember in and it will remind you when the time >> comes? >> Thanks. >> Lovette >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Mon Dec 12 08:07:02 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:07:02 +0000 Subject: an i-phone 4 problem Message-ID: <4ee5b397.82b6cc0a.52f9.0f64@mx.google.com> thanks for the suggestion. i didn't know how many apps i had in the app switcher as i thought they had to be running apps to affect the responsiveness of the i-phone. i seemed to have loads listed at least so i double tapped them all as you suggested and restarted the phone and the responsiveness has certainly improved. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Glenn" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Date sent: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:28:34 -0600 >Subject: Re: an i-phone 4 problem >Michael, >Maybe you have too many programs running. >Restarting the phone does not close them, they will all open again on >restart. >Double-tap the home key and bring up the app switcher. >Tap and hold one of the apps until it says "editing apps". >Then double-tap each app until the app switcher says "no more apps". >Then close the app switcher, and restart your phone, and let us know if that >helps. >Glenn >----- Original Message ----- >From: "michael weaver" To: Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:25 PM >Subject: an i-phone 4 problem >until i can conveniently upgrade to the 4 s, i am having a >problem with my i-phone 4. >when i go into emails, if i have a few messages in a thread for >example my i-phone seems to be very sluggish while scrolling >through emails. >i cannot understand why my i-phone 4 has become so slow when >doing certain things like reading emails and texts. >the only thing i can think of is that it is to do with the latest >version of ios and my i-phone 4. >if i try to move faster it also is known to jump while struggling >to scroll through items. >how do i resolve this problem? ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >either the list's own dedicated web archive: >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >the list website at: ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > No they don't need to be running and some can really take a toll on your battery life and data plan! JST Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:07 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: an i-phone 4 problem thanks for the suggestion. i didn't know how many apps i had in the app switcher as i thought they had to be running apps to affect the responsiveness of the i-phone. i seemed to have loads listed at least so i double tapped them all as you suggested and restarted the phone and the responsiveness has certainly improved. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Glenn" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:28:34 -0600 >Subject: Re: an i-phone 4 problem >Michael, >Maybe you have too many programs running. >Restarting the phone does not close them, they will all open again on >restart. >Double-tap the home key and bring up the app switcher. >Tap and hold one of the apps until it says "editing apps". >Then double-tap each app until the app switcher says "no more apps". >Then close the app switcher, and restart your phone, and let us know if that >helps. >Glenn >----- Original Message ----- >From: "michael weaver" To: Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:25 PM >Subject: an i-phone 4 problem >until i can conveniently upgrade to the 4 s, i am having a problem with >my i-phone 4. >when i go into emails, if i have a few messages in a thread for example >my i-phone seems to be very sluggish while scrolling through emails. >i cannot understand why my i-phone 4 has become so slow when doing >certain things like reading emails and texts. >the only thing i can think of is that it is to do with the latest >version of ios and my i-phone 4. >if i try to move faster it also is known to jump while struggling to >scroll through items. >how do i resolve this problem? ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >either the list's own dedicated web archive: >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >the list website at: ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Mon Dec 12 13:40:18 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:40:18 +1100 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone In-Reply-To: <16CDF6FA690C4C2890598FD4991D8692@MQUAD> References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461><4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461><001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> <16CDF6FA690C4C2890598FD4991D8692@MQUAD> Message-ID: <387F44CA-A9AD-4234-ADC6-A2E536F18D0A@bluebottle.com> not that i am aware of On 12/12/2011, at 4:32 AM, Mike Welty wrote: > Not with IOS 5, I think they updated some stuff in that regard > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "krystal watson" > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:33 > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone > >> its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have no way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where ever you drop it >> On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: >> >>> Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home button it >>> will do away with empty pages. HTH >>> >>> >>> Bubba >>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn >>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>> >>> Never mind, >>> It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. >>> Glenn >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM >>> Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two >>> empty pages, page 6 and page 8. >>> How do I remove the empty pages? >>> Thanks >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Mon Dec 12 13:41:16 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:41:16 +1100 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> <001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: well i am new to moving apps and i am sorry but others have told me its hard On 12/12/2011, at 5:19 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually that's not true. I can move things accurately. > > Basically you have a 8 by 8 matrix. the first column is the folders and the beep is the blank spot so just memorize that and you are fine. I can now move an app in seconds, or rather 2 depending on where I am and if I have to wait for the pause of a page change. > On Dec 11, 2011, at 1:33 AM, krystal watson wrote: > >> its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have no way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where ever you drop it >> On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: >> >>> Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home button it >>> will do away with empty pages. HTH >>> >>> >>> Bubba >>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn >>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>> >>> Never mind, >>> It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. >>> Glenn >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Glenn" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM >>> Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two >>> empty pages, page 6 and page 8. >>> How do I remove the empty pages? >>> Thanks >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 14:19:05 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:19:05 -0500 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> <001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003301ccb8d9$02476870$06d63950$@gmail.com> That is right it is not hard. Here is a well done podcast on moving apps and creating folders on your home pages! It is an older podcast but the basic is the same and it is very well did and recommend you listen to it! See link below. HTH ! http://media.libsyn.com/media/bct/bct1494ArrangeHomeScreen.mp3 Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of krystal watson Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:41 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone well i am new to moving apps and i am sorry but others have told me its hard On 12/12/2011, at 5:19 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually that's not true. I can move things accurately. > > Basically you have a 8 by 8 matrix. the first column is the folders and the beep is the blank spot so just memorize that and you are fine. I can now move an app in seconds, or rather 2 depending on where I am and if I have to wait for the pause of a page change. > On Dec 11, 2011, at 1:33 AM, krystal watson wrote: > >> its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have >> no way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where ever you drop it On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: >> >>> Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home >>> button it will do away with empty pages. HTH >>> >>> >>> Bubba >>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn >>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>> >>> Never mind, >>> It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. >>> Glenn >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Glenn" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM >>> Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I >>> have two empty pages, page 6 and page 8. >>> How do I remove the empty pages? >>> Thanks >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 16:24:07 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:24:07 -0800 Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> <001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <32E95F7E-F392-4733-A6F1-A989AB1B63D6@gmail.com> That's the podcast I learned from. It took me after I listened to the podcast about 5 minutes to grasp it and then after that just practice and that's it. I'm not a pro at it yet but I can now while I'm talking to people be playing with my home screen arrangement. lol! Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 12, 2011, at 5:41 AM, krystal watson wrote: > well i am new to moving apps and i am sorry but others have told me its hard > On 12/12/2011, at 5:19 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually that's not true. I can move things accurately. >> >> Basically you have a 8 by 8 matrix. the first column is the folders and the beep is the blank spot so just memorize that and you are fine. I can now move an app in seconds, or rather 2 depending on where I am and if I have to wait for the pause of a page change. >> On Dec 11, 2011, at 1:33 AM, krystal watson wrote: >> >>> its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have no way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where ever you drop it >>> On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home button it >>>> will do away with empty pages. HTH >>>> >>>> >>>> Bubba >>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>>> >>>> Never mind, >>>> It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. >>>> Glenn >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Glenn" >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM >>>> Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two >>>> empty pages, page 6 and page 8. >>>> How do I remove the empty pages? >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>> >>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Dec 12 17:18:03 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:18:03 +0000 Subject: Force quitting an iPhone App Message-ID: <1A32F5F4-4786-47D2-A5BE-61BC8269C053@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I am running the latest level of IOS 5 on an iPhone 3GS. The IOS user guide says that you can force quit an App by holding the on/off switch for a few seconds until the slider appears and then press and hold the home button until the App quits. Using VoiceOver I interpret this as while in the App press and hold the on/off switch until you hear "slide or double tap to power off" and then release the on/off switch and press and hold the home button until you hear a sound. However that does not seem to work as the App in question is still in the App switcher. Am I doing something wrong or has the App actually been quitted but still remains in the App switcher in an inactive state? I know that I can force quit an App by removing it from the App switcher as in recent posts but I would prefer to force quit the App while in the App. If I can get get the above to work then I think that a variant on the above will force quit all App sin the App switcher and thereby ensure that the next Ap I start will be the only active App. Best regards..... Paul Hopewell From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 17:31:11 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:31:11 -0800 Subject: Force quitting an iPhone App In-Reply-To: <1A32F5F4-4786-47D2-A5BE-61BC8269C053@hopewell.org.uk> References: <1A32F5F4-4786-47D2-A5BE-61BC8269C053@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <3F66418B-4AE8-48F8-BA4D-19F40C17B0A0@gmail.com> I believe the app will quit but will still be in the app switcher as a place holder. Take care. On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I am running the latest level of IOS 5 on an iPhone 3GS. The IOS user guide says that you can force quit an App by holding the on/off switch for a few seconds until the slider appears and then press and hold the home button until the App quits. > > Using VoiceOver I interpret this as while in the App press and hold the on/off switch until you hear "slide or double tap to power off" and then release the on/off switch and press and hold the home button until you hear a sound. However that does not seem to work as the App in question is still in the App switcher. Am I doing something wrong or has the App actually been quitted but still remains in the App switcher in an inactive state? > > I know that I can force quit an App by removing it from the App switcher as in recent posts but I would prefer to force quit the App while in the App. If I can get get the above to work then I think that a variant on the above will force quit all App sin the App switcher and thereby ensure that the next Ap I start will be the only active App. > > Best regards..... > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjligon at msn.com Mon Dec 12 17:37:28 2011 From: cjligon at msn.com (Cornell Ligon) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:37:28 -0500 Subject: Very Important Message-ID: Look what a pleasant thing I've got for you http://www.lubartowiak.com.pl/inf.php?NewYear From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 17:43:52 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:43:52 -0500 Subject: Force quitting an iPhone App In-Reply-To: <1A32F5F4-4786-47D2-A5BE-61BC8269C053@hopewell.org.uk> References: <1A32F5F4-4786-47D2-A5BE-61BC8269C053@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <001301ccb8f5$9df8ac40$d9ea04c0$@gmail.com> Hi, doing this will close it but not out of the app switcher it really is used to get you out of a tight spot of a app that is locked up or not responcetive and you cannot get it from the foreground and this will get you out of the app and reboot the device. When it comes back up the app will still be in the app switcher and you will need to close it out of it. Now this is what it has always did with me but if others have had other luck or thing jump in and tell how as I cannot get a app to close out without it going to the switcher ! I will be the first to say they need a way to let you choose to have it go to the switcher or just close it this could easily be done with a confirmation saying click here to close the app or click here to put in the switcher. I also think a remove all from switcher would be nice as well. Maybe one day! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 12:18 PM To: mac-access Subject: Force quitting an iPhone App Hello, I am running the latest level of IOS 5 on an iPhone 3GS. The IOS user guide says that you can force quit an App by holding the on/off switch for a few seconds until the slider appears and then press and hold the home button until the App quits. Using VoiceOver I interpret this as while in the App press and hold the on/off switch until you hear "slide or double tap to power off" and then release the on/off switch and press and hold the home button until you hear a sound. However that does not seem to work as the App in question is still in the App switcher. Am I doing something wrong or has the App actually been quitted but still remains in the App switcher in an inactive state? I know that I can force quit an App by removing it from the App switcher as in recent posts but I would prefer to force quit the App while in the App. If I can get get the above to work then I think that a variant on the above will force quit all App sin the App switcher and thereby ensure that the next Ap I start will be the only active App. Best regards..... Paul Hopewell <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 17:45:20 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:45:20 -0500 Subject: Force quitting an iPhone App In-Reply-To: <3F66418B-4AE8-48F8-BA4D-19F40C17B0A0@gmail.com> References: <1A32F5F4-4786-47D2-A5BE-61BC8269C053@hopewell.org.uk> <3F66418B-4AE8-48F8-BA4D-19F40C17B0A0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001401ccb8f5$d267ad50$773707f0$@gmail.com> Yes, this is what I think and it does with me see my previous message on this! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 12:31 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Force quitting an iPhone App I believe the app will quit but will still be in the app switcher as a place holder. Take care. On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I am running the latest level of IOS 5 on an iPhone 3GS. The IOS user guide says that you can force quit an App by holding the on/off switch for a few seconds until the slider appears and then press and hold the home button until the App quits. > > Using VoiceOver I interpret this as while in the App press and hold the on/off switch until you hear "slide or double tap to power off" and then release the on/off switch and press and hold the home button until you hear a sound. However that does not seem to work as the App in question is still in the App switcher. Am I doing something wrong or has the App actually been quitted but still remains in the App switcher in an inactive state? > > I know that I can force quit an App by removing it from the App switcher as in recent posts but I would prefer to force quit the App while in the App. If I can get get the above to work then I think that a variant on the above will force quit all App sin the App switcher and thereby ensure that the next Ap I start will be the only active App. > > Best regards..... > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From d.griffith at btinternet.com Mon Dec 12 18:09:28 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:09:28 -0000 Subject: Very Important In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <723542.55280.qm@smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I am afraid I really don't like and will not click mystery links without any explanation of what they are and who has sent them . David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Cornell Ligon Sent: 12 December 2011 17:37 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Very Important Look what a pleasant thing I've got for you http://www.lubartowiak.com.pl/inf.php?NewYear <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Mon Dec 12 18:11:07 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:11:07 +0000 Subject: Very Important In-Reply-To: <723542.55280.qm@smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <723542.55280.qm@smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: it's a security breach. ignore. the link goes to a prescription site for "certain" drugs. basically some hack at it again. these people never learn. Basically spam, I've emailed lynne. lew On 12 Dec 2011, at 18:09, David Griffith wrote: > I am afraid I really don't like and will not click mystery links without > any explanation of what they are and who has sent them . > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Cornell Ligon > Sent: 12 December 2011 17:37 > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Subject: Very Important > > Look what a pleasant thing I've got for you > http://www.lubartowiak.com.pl/inf.php?NewYear > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 6552 (20111018) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 6552 (20111018) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Mon Dec 12 18:21:50 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:21:50 +0000 Subject: Colin here ignore. this is spam!Very Important In-Reply-To: References: <723542.55280.qm@smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2EAB14A6-7267-4E33-A29E-10AAC0C6D09C@virginmedia.com> On 12 Dec 2011, at 18:11, Lewis Alexander wrote: > it's a security breach. ignore. > > the link goes to a prescription site for "certain" drugs. basically some hack at it again. these people never learn. Basically spam, I've emailed lynne. > > lew > > On 12 Dec 2011, at 18:09, David Griffith wrote: > >> I am afraid I really don't like and will not click mystery links without >> any explanation of what they are and who has sent them . >> >> David Griffith >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Cornell Ligon >> Sent: 12 December 2011 17:37 >> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >> Subject: Very Important >> >> Look what a pleasant thing I've got for you >> http://www.lubartowiak.com.pl/inf.php?NewYear >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >> database 6552 (20111018) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >> database 6552 (20111018) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 18:28:53 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:28:53 -0500 Subject: icloud email address not working Message-ID: <0084CE9A-68B6-45C6-9404-A3EB30502A20@gmail.com> Hi, Ever since about Friday afternoon, my icloud email address has been unable to receive or send emails. All of my credentials are correct, anybody have any clues as to how I can fix this problem? Thanks, Courtney From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Mon Dec 12 18:30:15 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:30:15 +0000 Subject: icloud email address not working In-Reply-To: <0084CE9A-68B6-45C6-9404-A3EB30502A20@gmail.com> References: <0084CE9A-68B6-45C6-9404-A3EB30502A20@gmail.com> Message-ID: icloud can sometimes drop without warning. it's one of those things. I've noticed it a few times. lew On 12 Dec 2011, at 18:28, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Ever since about Friday afternoon, my icloud email address has been unable to receive or send emails. All of my credentials are correct, anybody have any clues as to how I can fix this problem? > Thanks, > Courtney > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From moopiecurran at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 18:33:30 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:33:30 -0500 Subject: icloud email address not working In-Reply-To: References: <0084CE9A-68B6-45C6-9404-A3EB30502A20@gmail.com> Message-ID: <58B3CEC6-5718-4AF5-839C-E0D9E4F5B845@gmail.com> Hi Lew, But this has been going on for three days now, and I'm still able to back up my iPhone. Thanks, Courtney On 12/12/2011, at 1:30 in the Afternoon, Lewis Alexander wrote: > icloud can sometimes drop without warning. it's one of those things. I've noticed it a few times. > > lew > > On 12 Dec 2011, at 18:28, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> Ever since about Friday afternoon, my icloud email address has been unable to receive or send emails. All of my credentials are correct, anybody have any clues as to how I can fix this problem? >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Mon Dec 12 18:35:35 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:35:35 +0000 Subject: icloud email address not working In-Reply-To: <58B3CEC6-5718-4AF5-839C-E0D9E4F5B845@gmail.com> References: <0084CE9A-68B6-45C6-9404-A3EB30502A20@gmail.com> <58B3CEC6-5718-4AF5-839C-E0D9E4F5B845@gmail.com> Message-ID: strange. best thing I can think of, though I don't use iCloud much, check itunes settings, your phone settings, etc and re enter your username and password just in case. if not, then there's a problem on iCloud's end. you get these things from time to time.... teething problems. lew On 12 Dec 2011, at 18:33, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi Lew, > But this has been going on for three days now, and I'm still able to back up my iPhone. > Thanks, > Courtney > On 12/12/2011, at 1:30 in the Afternoon, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> icloud can sometimes drop without warning. it's one of those things. I've noticed it a few times. >> >> lew >> >> On 12 Dec 2011, at 18:28, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Ever since about Friday afternoon, my icloud email address has been unable to receive or send emails. All of my credentials are correct, anybody have any clues as to how I can fix this problem? >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From khwicca at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 18:59:03 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:59:03 -0500 Subject: Some safari quetions Message-ID: <1FA79140-51F7-4779-B5B8-79D5529E8D1B@gmail.com> Safari is my weakest link on the Mac. I can never quite accomplish what I want. What is the difference between using the command+left and right arrows to move through links and the tab and shift+tab? They obviously do something different, but I'm not sure of the scoop. Also, if I'm sitting on a link or some text, how can I get Safari to read it word by word or character by character? Thanks. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From khwicca at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 18:59:16 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:59:16 -0500 Subject: What to do when an Application won't open Message-ID: <64654036-1849-4F30-933D-0B6009402664@gmail.com> I've seen folks write in with his situation, but I can't remember what they were told. I have a using program and all of the sudden it stopped open ing. It's always worked fine. I think there's a preference file or something I need to delete. Can someone refresh my memory? Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From support at mac-access.net Mon Dec 12 19:13:46 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon, Lynne & Tracy) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:13:46 +0000 Subject: Please Read; Our sincere apologies to all members Message-ID: <351F6788-B6B1-4ED8-89B9-26522B7DD013@mac-access.net> Hello everybody We have just been made aware of an obvious spam which got through to the group because a human being deliberately joined the group and then spammed it. This individual is no longer a member of the group; and his email address has been blocked. We apologise sincerely for any distress that message caused to any member. Please believe me when I say that we do take this kind of thing very very seriously. I think it's an unfortunate side-effect of having the list archived on the Google service, as it is a publicly available archive; anybody can see the content and join the group. We have now reverted our subscription policy to manual approval, meaning that nobody may subscribe to the group without our knowledge or consent. Again, please accept our sincere apologies, and thank you very much to the member who brought this to our attention. If you have any comment to make in reply to this, please do so off list. Please contact support at mac-access.net if you wish to comment. As you may be aware we are currently undergoing a difficult time personally, and this kind of this was exactly what we did not need. We're more than willing to address any concerns you may have; but please please do not raise them on the list. Lynne From zkline at speedpost.net Mon Dec 12 19:17:19 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:17:19 -0800 Subject: What to do when an Application won't open In-Reply-To: <64654036-1849-4F30-933D-0B6009402664@gmail.com> References: <64654036-1849-4F30-933D-0B6009402664@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, I'm afraid without more specifics it's hard to answer the question. What program are you referring to, and what happens when you try to open it? Best, Zack. On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I've seen folks write in with his situation, but I can't remember what they were told. I have a using program and all of the sudden it stopped open ing. It's always worked fine. I think there's a preference file or something I need to delete. Can someone refresh my memory? > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 19:26:44 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:26:44 -0500 Subject: What to do when an Application won't open In-Reply-To: References: <64654036-1849-4F30-933D-0B6009402664@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000a01ccb903$fc3676d0$f4a36470$@gmail.com> Yep and is it on the Mac or IOS devices? Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 2:17 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: What to do when an Application won't open Hi, I'm afraid without more specifics it's hard to answer the question. What program are you referring to, and what happens when you try to open it? Best, Zack. On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I've seen folks write in with his situation, but I can't remember what they were told. I have a using program and all of the sudden it stopped open ing. It's always worked fine. I think there's a preference file or something I need to delete. Can someone refresh my memory? > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From khwicca at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 19:35:00 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:35:00 -0500 Subject: What to do when an Application won't open In-Reply-To: References: <64654036-1849-4F30-933D-0B6009402664@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1AFFD501-90BF-4CAD-B2CC-E49A92FBC5D0@gmail.com> It's called Mplayer X and when I try to open it, nothing happens. No message, no activity of any kind. Kristeen On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi, > I'm afraid without more specifics it's hard to answer the question. What program are you referring to, and what happens when you try to open it? > Best, > Zack. > On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> I've seen folks write in with his situation, but I can't remember what they were told. I have a using program and all of the sudden it stopped open ing. It's always worked fine. I think there's a preference file or something I need to delete. Can someone refresh my memory? >> >> Kristeen Hughes >> khwicca at gmail.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Mon Dec 12 19:40:41 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:40:41 +0000 Subject: What to do when an Application won't open In-Reply-To: <1AFFD501-90BF-4CAD-B2CC-E49A92FBC5D0@gmail.com> References: <64654036-1849-4F30-933D-0B6009402664@gmail.com> <1AFFD501-90BF-4CAD-B2CC-E49A92FBC5D0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1E99AD89-CEA9-4BEB-A762-F41207C0EC7B@mac-access.net> sound pretty much like the app may not be compatible or unsupported so as a safe point, OS X refuses to run it. I noticed it in previos versions of OS X. I'm currently refurbishing a powerbook G3 Pismo 500 for freemacs for the blind and it's taken all weekend to install the OS (OS X 10.4) and today it finally paid off.... ok new dvdrw drive installed (hot swap bay, pinched a drive off a windows laptop and it works) but when running an app, if it doesn't support the OS in question, OS X blocks it out. it's a pain but hey it happens. Mplayer X. I'll look into that. what OS are you runnning and is it updated? lew On 12 Dec 2011, at 19:35, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > It's called Mplayer X and when I try to open it, nothing happens. No message, no activity of any kind. > > Kristeen > > On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm afraid without more specifics it's hard to answer the question. What program are you referring to, and what happens when you try to open it? >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >> >>> I've seen folks write in with his situation, but I can't remember what they were told. I have a using program and all of the sudden it stopped open ing. It's always worked fine. I think there's a preference file or something I need to delete. Can someone refresh my memory? >>> >>> Kristeen Hughes >>> khwicca at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From zkline at speedpost.net Mon Dec 12 19:44:23 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:44:23 -0800 Subject: What to do when an Application won't open In-Reply-To: <1E99AD89-CEA9-4BEB-A762-F41207C0EC7B@mac-access.net> References: <64654036-1849-4F30-933D-0B6009402664@gmail.com> <1AFFD501-90BF-4CAD-B2CC-E49A92FBC5D0@gmail.com> <1E99AD89-CEA9-4BEB-A762-F41207C0EC7B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <63BB9631-7590-4892-BE5B-CAFAF18F70E7@speedpost.net> Ah, mplayerx. Are you sure the app hasn't opened without a window? Sometimes apps will do that, and they only have a menu bar instead of a full window. I'd use cmd-tab to check, I bet you'll find mplayerx listed that way. Best, Zack. On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > sound pretty much like the app may not be compatible or unsupported so as a safe point, OS X refuses to run it. > > I noticed it in previos versions of OS X. > > I'm currently refurbishing a powerbook G3 Pismo 500 for freemacs for the blind and it's taken all weekend to install the OS (OS X 10.4) and today it finally paid off.... ok new dvdrw drive installed (hot swap bay, pinched a drive off a windows laptop and it works) but when running an app, if it doesn't support the OS in question, OS X blocks it out. > > it's a pain but hey it happens. > > Mplayer X. I'll look into that. > > what OS are you runnning and is it updated? > > lew > > On 12 Dec 2011, at 19:35, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> It's called Mplayer X and when I try to open it, nothing happens. No message, no activity of any kind. >> >> Kristeen >> >> On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I'm afraid without more specifics it's hard to answer the question. What program are you referring to, and what happens when you try to open it? >>> Best, >>> Zack. >>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >>> >>>> I've seen folks write in with his situation, but I can't remember what they were told. I have a using program and all of the sudden it stopped open ing. It's always worked fine. I think there's a preference file or something I need to delete. Can someone refresh my memory? >>>> >>>> Kristeen Hughes >>>> khwicca at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Kristeen Hughes >> khwicca at gmail.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Mon Dec 12 20:26:53 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:26:53 -0000 Subject: Some safari quetions In-Reply-To: <1FA79140-51F7-4779-B5B8-79D5529E8D1B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <559220.98184.qm@smtp821.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Command plus left and right arrows are short cuts for back and forward through previously loaded pages.. Tab will move you through links and elements on a page. Shift tab will move you back It is worthwhile learning to navigate by other elements such as headers and edit boxes as this makes using Safari much easier.. To read word by word interact with the text. To have a word spelt press VO w twice. To have a word spelt phonetically press vo w three time. Pressing VO W once will just say the current word. If I really want to look closely at some text in safari I often just copy it to Text Edit and review it there. This is a bit of a challenge to select and copy text in Safari and many of the methods people post do not work for me using Lion. but the 2 easy methods I use is shift vo c to copy the last spoken phrase to the clipboard and then paste that in Text edit. You can also easily select all with command A and then command c and then command V to paste in a whole page into text Edit. David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes Sent: 12 December 2011 18:59 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Some safari quetions Safari is my weakest link on the Mac. I can never quite accomplish what I want. What is the difference between using the command+left and right arrows to move through links and the tab and shift+tab? They obviously do something different, but I'm not sure of the scoop. Also, if I'm sitting on a link or some text, how can I get Safari to read it word by word or character by character? Thanks. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6552 (20111018) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Dec 12 20:39:05 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:39:05 +0000 Subject: Force quitting an iPhone App In-Reply-To: <1A32F5F4-4786-47D2-A5BE-61BC8269C053@hopewell.org.uk> References: <1A32F5F4-4786-47D2-A5BE-61BC8269C053@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <4EE66669.6040706@techno-chat.net> Hello all. On my iPhone 4, I did the following: 1. Open the messages app. This brought me to a new message since I didn't have any messages. 2. Pressed and held the power button until it says slide to power off. 3. Pressed and held the home button. 4. Eventually it brought me back to the home screen. However the messages app was still in the app switcher. So this confirms that while an app may be forced quitting, it still appears in app switcher. Just want to confirm my findings. Chat soon. On 12/12/2011 17:18, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I am running the latest level of IOS 5 on an iPhone 3GS. The IOS user guide says that you can force quit an App by holding the on/off switch for a few seconds until the slider appears and then press and hold the home button until the App quits. > > Using VoiceOver I interpret this as while in the App press and hold the on/off switch until you hear "slide or double tap to power off" and then release the on/off switch and press and hold the home button until you hear a sound. However that does not seem to work as the App in question is still in the App switcher. Am I doing something wrong or has the App actually been quitted but still remains in the App switcher in an inactive state? > > I know that I can force quit an App by removing it from the App switcher as in recent posts but I would prefer to force quit the App while in the App. If I can get get the above to work then I think that a variant on the above will force quit all App sin the App switcher and thereby ensure that the next Ap I start will be the only active App. > > Best regards..... > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From opensesame at me.com Mon Dec 12 23:17:11 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:17:11 -0500 Subject: icloud email address not working In-Reply-To: <0084CE9A-68B6-45C6-9404-A3EB30502A20@gmail.com> References: <0084CE9A-68B6-45C6-9404-A3EB30502A20@gmail.com> Message-ID: <04624E04-CD48-44AD-98D1-D0B5E8C0FEC1@me.com> Hi Courtney, My iCloud-hosted email has experienced significantly more downtime than I previously experienced with MobileMe. I'm attributing this to teething problems, as another lister mentioned, but it is frustrating nonetheless. Remember that you can always check the status of iCloud services at the following URL: http://www.apple.com/support/icloud/systemstatus/ The accuracy and timeliness of the information on that page depends, of course, on the honesty and timeliness of the Apple engineers who are reporting such information. Having worked in and around data centers for 20 years I am very aware of the fact that such information rarely gets passed along to end-Users while the downtime is in progress, if it gets passed along at all. The site currently shows no issues as of 05 December, so perhaps your issue stems from something else. Could you give us some more details regarding what devices are not able to send and receive iCloud email? Have you braved the icloud.com web interface to try sending/receiving from there? It isn't a screen reader friendly site, but with patience or sighted assistance you can work through Apples iCloud website roadblocks. HTH, Bryan On Dec 12, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Ever since about Friday afternoon, my icloud email address has been unable to receive or send emails. All of my credentials are correct, anybody have any clues as to how I can fix this problem? From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Dec 13 00:02:25 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:02:25 +1100 Subject: iPhone 4 Message-ID: <2A54C43F-C96A-4B24-B458-53AD9A08263D@internode.on.net> Howdy Folks! My iPhone 4 arrived yesterday morning. Unfortunately I'm not able to do much at all with the device yet as I'm still awaiting my replacement SIM card so the following are just first initial impressions and of the new iPhone when compared to my 3GS I used to have. The design is interesting, a stainless steel frame around the phone, both the front and back panels are supposed to be glass. Apparently the iPhone 4 is tougher than it looks, I don't want to try and find out. The iPhone 4 doesn't feel as nice in my hand as the 3GS did, I suppose this is because of its rounded body and its something I'll just have to get used to. The iPhone 4 seems heavier than the 3GS when it actual fact both phones are the same weight, the difference is that the iPhone 4 has more squeezed into a smaller area thus it seems heavier. I have Voiceover working and the audio through the speaker seems better than that of the 3GS though as I said earlier, I haven't progressed all that far with the "Setup" because of the absence of the new SIM card, not to worry as there's now no excuse for the iPhone 4 not to have a very nice long battery charge . From rattail4 at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 00:22:40 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:22:40 -0500 Subject: microsim adaptors Message-ID: Hey all, Not sure if this would fit here bout would anyone have a suggestion on where to find a microsim adaptor? From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 02:11:01 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:11:01 -0500 Subject: microsim adaptors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009d01ccb93c$76efdff0$64cf9fd0$@gmail.com> They are everywhere just give Google a try! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:23 PM To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: microsim adaptors Hey all, Not sure if this would fit here bout would anyone have a suggestion on where to find a microsim adaptor? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Tue Dec 13 02:42:05 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:42:05 -0500 Subject: iPhone not showing up in itunes In-Reply-To: <0C21A228-CF03-4646-98EE-E95D089698DA@mac.com> References: <5EEC1E75-319E-4906-9B1C-1C016BE5A679@Mac-Access.net> <9513A940-D689-417B-91D2-88768B903525@tznet.com> <0C21A228-CF03-4646-98EE-E95D089698DA@mac.com> Message-ID: <1ACCE0A6-CA1B-487A-9344-53664F79522F@Mac-Access.net> Thanks to Esther, John, and others for tips on getting iTunes in snow Leopard to recognize the iPhone. The final successful resolution was to follow Esther's directions as written in the Knowledge based Apple article. this is the process where iTunes is deleted and several files are also deleted from the library. then iTunes is installed again. Thanks to everyone for the tips and the successful resolution. Eric Caron On Dec 4, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Esther wrote: > Hello Eric, > > A Google search turned up two reference sources that might help with the problem of recognizing iOS devices after a system upgrade. > > 1. The first instance involves applying a software update for the SDK (Software Development Kit). I found references in some instances where this update was apparently not seen from a user's account after applying all software updates. One user reported that Apple tech support had him create another account with Admin privileges on his machine, restart the computer, log in to the new account and start iTunes with the iPhone plugged in. At that point, although the iPhone was still not recognized, the user received a prompt for a iPhone SDK compatibility software update. He installed the update, restarted his computer, and logged into iTunes under his usual account. When the SDK compatibility update was found and applied, everything worked. Another user claimed there was no need to create a new account with Admin privileges or log into another account -- he simply found the SDK compatibility update download (presumably from the Apple Software download site, and applied it. These comments appeared in the Apple Support forums last year -- around the time of the 10.6.3 release of Snow Leopard. > > (Note: I always keep at least one and usually two additional accounts on my laptop in addition to my main user account, even though I am the only user. This allows me to check whether issues that arise are due to my local setups or problems with the way my application preferences are set, as opposed to problems with the operating system or programs themselves. It also means that I can still log into my Mac in the event of problems with my account without resorting to recovery discs or partitions.) > > This may also be solved by reinstalling the Apple Mobile Device Service, which applies only to systems running Mac OS X v10.6.8 and earlier -- that is, any OS earlier than the latest version of Snow Leopard. > > 2. The second instance is specific to upgrading to Snow Leopard, and applies to iOS devices not being recognized after a restart. In some instances where iTunes is reinstalled, the device may be initially recognized, but not recognized on subsequent restarts of your machine. These instructions involve deleting a preference file from the main /System/Library/LaunchDaemons folder. There is a second set of steps if, after restarting your Mac, the issue still remains. This involves deleting the "AppleMobileDevice.kext" file from your /System/Library/Extensions folder, and also deleting the "MobileDevice.framework" folder from your /System/Library/LaunchDaemons folder. You then need to delete the "com.apple.usbmuxd.plist-orig" file again, restart your Mac, and download iTunes and reinstall it. > > I'll give you the direct links to the Apple Knowledge Base articles > > ? iOS: Device not recognized in iTunes for Mac OS X > http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1591 > This is the general troubleshooting document that has a link to the iPhone Trouble Shooting Assistant. It goes through the regular steps of making sure you apply the latest software updates, check USB connections, etc. Then, if these steps fail to work it also suggests you reinstall the Apple Mobile Device Service (for systems running Snow Leopard or earlier) > > ? iTunes: How to remove and reinstall the Apple Mobile Device Service on Mac OS X 10.6.8 or Earlier > http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1747 > This is the detailed set of instructions for reinstalling the Apple Mobile Device Service > > ? Mac OS X v10.6: iOS device not recognized in iTunes after restart > http://support.apple.com/kb/ts3540 > This article describes additional fixes that are Snow Leopard specific. The other documents apply to general instances where your Mac loses the ability to identify the iPhone in iTunes (but not necessarily in other apps). > > HTH. The Apple Support documents all give step by step instructions. I've tried to summarize the nature of the fixes in the body of my post. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Dec 4, 2011, at 05:26, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> My friends have two macs and two iPhones and having the same problem on both systems. I've pretty much ruled out it being a cable issue as iPhoto works. >> Also strange that this was first noticed right after updating to Snow Leopard. Both were running Leopard until recently. >> >> As they are all ready running the latest iTunes where do I send them to re instal iTunes again? I've never reinstalled iTunes before just updated. >> >> These tips are greatly appreciated. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:59 PM, John Gunn wrote: >> >>> Hello: >>> >>> I've heard of this kind of issue on a tech podcast and the fix was to re-install iTunes. >>> >>> When installing you won't have to worry about loosing data. >>> >>> John >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Tue Dec 13 04:05:53 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:05:53 -0500 Subject: converting dvd's into iTunes compatible files In-Reply-To: <955B695642F244588C6F80D7386629DA@joseph1> References: <955B695642F244588C6F80D7386629DA@joseph1> Message-ID: <0C9644E3-BF1F-4AC7-859B-A13643F7E72D@softcon.com> There's one called dvd remaster that is completely accessible, and can even pull just the audio if that's all you want, but if you want an ipod version of the movie, it can do that too. It supports other formats as well, so it's quite full featured, and works well with vo as mentioned above. You can find dvd remaster at: http://www.metakine.com/products/dvdremaster/ The price is 39 bucks for the standard version, and 49 bucks for the pro eddition. hth. From tsiegel at softcon.com Tue Dec 13 04:08:33 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:08:33 -0500 Subject: Opening RAR files In-Reply-To: <-8475310832540280135@unknownmsgid> References: <-8475310832540280135@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <99D129AD-507A-4F0B-8AF6-C9CE6C7553C5@softcon.com> Also, in case you're a terminal jockey, visit the softcon pages at http://www.softcon.com/mac/ and download rar from the unix programs pages. I've compiled a version of rar for the mac, and I've used it quite successfully on several occasions. Probably not what you're after, but just letting folks know there's another option. From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 05:20:57 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:20:57 -0500 Subject: iPhone 4 References: <2A54C43F-C96A-4B24-B458-53AD9A08263D@internode.on.net> Message-ID: According to my talking kitchen scale, my 64 GB 4S weighed .1 oz more than my 32 GB 3GS. I didn't think to try metric weights, but that would equal approximately 3 grams. Perhaps the greater storage capacity or the 4s processor chip accounted for the disparity in our observations? Despite the weight and lack of rounded corners, I have no regrets whatsoever about upgrading!! Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Dane Trethowan To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:02 PM Subject: iPhone 4 Howdy Folks! My iPhone 4 arrived yesterday morning. Unfortunately I'm not able to do much at all with the device yet as I'm still awaiting my replacement SIM card so the following are just first initial impressions and of the new iPhone when compared to my 3GS I used to have. The design is interesting, a stainless steel frame around the phone, both the front and back panels are supposed to be glass. Apparently the iPhone 4 is tougher than it looks, I don't want to try and find out. The iPhone 4 doesn't feel as nice in my hand as the 3GS did, I suppose this is because of its rounded body and its something I'll just have to get used to. The iPhone 4 seems heavier than the 3GS when it actual fact both phones are the same weight, the difference is that the iPhone 4 has more squeezed into a smaller area thus it seems heavier. I have Voiceover working and the audio through the speaker seems better than that of the 3GS though as I said earlier, I haven't progressed all that far with the "Setup" because of the absence of the new SIM card, not to worry as there's now no excuse for the iPhone 4 not to have a very nice long battery charge . <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Dec 13 05:21:34 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:21:34 +0000 Subject: Watch subject lines (was: YoruFukurou: don't update.+ In-Reply-To: <9328475F-63EA-40E4-AF29-58812CCF9E48@computing.dcu.ie> References: <32F08C83-3EC0-4515-B47E-2625266992C9@computing.dcu.ie> <1E60CDBB-B854-4C64-BB10-1FCD51F925A4@gmail.com> <96D6FDAD-279B-4A69-9B91-8D169ED81D7D@googlemail.com> <39111410-BF13-45CF-9908-1C791397F0FE@computing.dcu.ie> <25FF53D3-4C35-4830-9753-23965993055D@googlemail.com> <9328475F-63EA-40E4-AF29-58812CCF9E48@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <1FD98FBC-1BA0-4232-B4CC-58223269250F@mac-access.net> Hello Donal and everybody Donal, as our assistant controller, is absolutely correct here. Gordon and I have been unavoidably unavailable for the last couple of weeks, and in general you all should be congratulated and thanks for the way the list has gone. But yes, please let's watch subject lines and keep them relevant to the discussion you're having. Thank you for your cooperation on this one. Lynne On 6 Dec 2011, at 18:46, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Folks, Wearing another hat for a second, can we watch the subject line on this one please? In the interests of maintaining nice, searchable archives can we bring this thread back to whether or not to update the software in question, or change the subject line to reflect the content now under discussion. From d.griffith at btinternet.com Tue Dec 13 10:07:00 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:07:00 +0000 Subject: File server is great Message-ID: <09697889-B597-4696-9D3B-56CCC85EE61A@btinternet.com> At what must be `a difficult time for gordon and Lyn I a wanted to recognise the excellent file server service that they have set up. This has been provided free to me as a Mac-access user. The web site interface is a model of accessibility. The secure edit box for the password provides consistent click feedback for voiceover. The site is easy and straightforward to use. This morning I uploaded a file and then used the site to send my brother a download link. My brother had complained that my previous attempt to send him a file had resulted in Sendspace attempting to alter his home page. In contrast he has emailed to express his admiration of this service . He compares this to the early days of Google where you got simple clear screens not packed with adverts etc. . I had been considering setting up a dropbox account and following the discussion of various accessibility glitches on this list. For me personally I can see no need to sign up for dropbox now. David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Tue Dec 13 10:18:57 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:18:57 +1100 Subject: Connecting to sites using SSH protocol In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16207243-5197-4E72-A3EE-ACAFD2EEBA5A@bigpond.net.au> Hi, SSH has the ability of using SCP. This is basically the CP command going across a ssh session. You can do this via the terminal. this is the method I use to access FTP, SSH or telnet sites. Sean On 11/12/2011, at 11:47 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Did anyone find a way of doing this with the Mac? Seems that Transmit doesn't support this unfortunately. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Dec 13 12:04:48 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:04:48 +1100 Subject: Reminders and Text Messages Message-ID: <23A36E30-70B6-43BF-A26D-668CDAEDBB1E@internode.on.net> Hi! I rather like the reminders functions found in the new IOS update. I feel that this function could be further enhanced with a text messaging function. Suppose for example that a reminder falls on a particular date, it would be nice and handy to have the iPad or iPhone forward the reminder via a text message or an Email to say a friend or even yourself, anyone got an opinion on this or perhaps someone may have an idea of how I can already accomplish this task? Cheers! Sent from my iPad From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Tue Dec 13 15:33:57 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:33:57 +1100 Subject: Reminders and Text Messages In-Reply-To: <23A36E30-70B6-43BF-A26D-668CDAEDBB1E@internode.on.net> References: <23A36E30-70B6-43BF-A26D-668CDAEDBB1E@internode.on.net> Message-ID: wow yeah that would be sweet as a friend of yours may have the same event so you could send them a text or email as they may not have a i phone would be sweet On 13/12/2011, at 11:04 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > I rather like the reminders functions found in the new IOS update. > > I feel that this function could be further enhanced with a text messaging function. Suppose for example that a reminder falls on a particular date, it would be nice and handy to have the iPad or iPhone forward the reminder via a text message or an Email to say a friend or even yourself, anyone got an opinion on this or perhaps someone may have an idea of how I can already accomplish this task? > > Cheers! > > > > Sent from my iPad > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Tue Dec 13 15:43:48 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:43:48 +1100 Subject: re moving apps around on a iphone In-Reply-To: <32E95F7E-F392-4733-A6F1-A989AB1B63D6@gmail.com> References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> <001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> <32E95F7E-F392-4733-A6F1-A989AB1B63D6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9BFC04FD-E79C-40B8-8A8A-6E030998E2EA@bluebottle.com> that is cool for you i am trying hard to get the process right of moving apps around but they keeping going where i don't want them or going on to another page or i get one right then i think wow i can do it then the next one i fale to place right and it ends up on page ten wow but with practice i will get it i guess just like i said the keyboard was to hard on the touch screen and now i can type just as fast as some one who can see with in reason i will get it in time if i try sorry i am rambiling on here talk later On 13/12/2011, at 3:24 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > That's the podcast I learned from. It took me after I listened to the podcast about 5 minutes to grasp it and then after that just practice and that's it. > > I'm not a pro at it yet but I can now while I'm talking to people be playing with my home screen arrangement. lol! > > Take care all. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Dec 12, 2011, at 5:41 AM, krystal watson wrote: > >> well i am new to moving apps and i am sorry but others have told me its hard >> On 12/12/2011, at 5:19 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually that's not true. I can move things accurately. >>> >>> Basically you have a 8 by 8 matrix. the first column is the folders and the beep is the blank spot so just memorize that and you are fine. I can now move an app in seconds, or rather 2 depending on where I am and if I have to wait for the pause of a page change. >>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 1:33 AM, krystal watson wrote: >>> >>>> its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have no way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where ever you drop it >>>> On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home button it >>>>> will do away with empty pages. HTH >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bubba >>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM >>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>>>> >>>>> Never mind, >>>>> It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. >>>>> Glenn >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Glenn" >>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM >>>>> Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two >>>>> empty pages, page 6 and page 8. >>>>> How do I remove the empty pages? >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>> >>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 1smartdog at cox.net Tue Dec 13 16:29:52 2011 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:29:52 -0600 Subject: System Access Message-ID: <5B4C52A28E054F578B6672CE8B4F47BD@karen796b6a58c> Has anyone used System Access Mobile by Serotek for either the Mac or PC? How does its functionality compare to VO? Karen From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Tue Dec 13 16:33:26 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:33:26 +0000 Subject: Reminders and Text Messages In-Reply-To: <23A36E30-70B6-43BF-A26D-668CDAEDBB1E@internode.on.net> References: <23A36E30-70B6-43BF-A26D-668CDAEDBB1E@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4EE77E56.50500@techno-chat.net> Sounds good! Why not let Apple know. The more people who do the more likely they will consider it. It's no good just 5% of people suggesting it; they need at least 10%. On 13/12/2011 12:04, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > I rather like the reminders functions found in the new IOS update. > > I feel that this function could be further enhanced with a text messaging function. Suppose for example that a reminder falls on a particular date, it would be nice and handy to have the iPad or iPhone forward the reminder via a text message or an Email to say a friend or even yourself, anyone got an opinion on this or perhaps someone may have an idea of how I can already accomplish this task? > > Cheers! > > > > Sent from my iPad > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 17:20:56 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:20:56 -0500 Subject: System Access In-Reply-To: <5B4C52A28E054F578B6672CE8B4F47BD@karen796b6a58c> References: <5B4C52A28E054F578B6672CE8B4F47BD@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: I don't think they make it for the Mac! I also don't think satogo works on the Mac either! Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of 1SmartDog at cox.net Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:30 AM To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: System Access Has anyone used System Access Mobile by Serotek for either the Mac or PC? How does its functionality compare to VO? Karen <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Tue Dec 13 17:27:36 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:27:36 +0000 Subject: System Access In-Reply-To: References: <5B4C52A28E054F578B6672CE8B4F47BD@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: <6F4BB468-2126-45C8-9C4B-F19EDF9B3C54@mac-access.net> it's a windows only product. sorry. it would be a huge conflict of interest regarding apple accessibility. not only that, a huge uproar. voiceover is a bloomin marvelous tool which makes my life easier as an IT technician / system builder. without it, I'd be stuffed lol. pretty much like a chicken and PAXO.... lol lew On 13 Dec 2011, at 17:20, Bubba wrote: > I don't think they make it for the Mac! I also don't think satogo works on > the Mac either! > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of 1SmartDog at cox.net > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:30 AM > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Subject: System Access > > Has anyone used System Access Mobile by Serotek for either the Mac or PC? > How does its functionality compare to VO? > > Karen > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 17:39:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:39:57 -0800 Subject: re moving apps around on a iphone In-Reply-To: <9BFC04FD-E79C-40B8-8A8A-6E030998E2EA@bluebottle.com> References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> <001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> <32E95F7E-F392-4733-A6F1-A989AB1B63D6@gmail.com> <9BFC04FD-E79C-40B8-8A8A-6E030998E2EA@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <4F55CFB4-C0BB-4DD1-A55F-D9539D206849@gmail.com> Just thnk of it as a 8 by 8 colomn. I did an audio boo about it but listn to dean's podcast which was posted here. but also go to http://audioboo.fm/marrie1 and look for it there. it should be the first one as I have not posted in a few days lol! But everyone on twitter thought it was pretty good. On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:43 AM, krystal watson wrote: > that is cool for you i am trying hard to get the process right of moving apps around but they keeping going where i don't want them or going on to another page or i get one right then i think wow i can do it then the next one i fale to place right and it ends up on page ten wow but with practice i will get it i guess just like i said the keyboard was to hard on the touch screen and now i can type just as fast as some one who can see with in reason i will get it in time if i try sorry i am rambiling on here talk later > On 13/12/2011, at 3:24 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> That's the podcast I learned from. It took me after I listened to the podcast about 5 minutes to grasp it and then after that just practice and that's it. >> >> I'm not a pro at it yet but I can now while I'm talking to people be playing with my home screen arrangement. lol! >> >> Take care all. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >> If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Dec 12, 2011, at 5:41 AM, krystal watson wrote: >> >>> well i am new to moving apps and i am sorry but others have told me its hard >>> On 12/12/2011, at 5:19 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Actually that's not true. I can move things accurately. >>>> >>>> Basically you have a 8 by 8 matrix. the first column is the folders and the beep is the blank spot so just memorize that and you are fine. I can now move an app in seconds, or rather 2 depending on where I am and if I have to wait for the pause of a page change. >>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 1:33 AM, krystal watson wrote: >>>> >>>>> its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have no way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where ever you drop it >>>>> On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home button it >>>>>> will do away with empty pages. HTH >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bubba >>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM >>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>> Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> Never mind, >>>>>> It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. >>>>>> Glenn >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Glenn" >>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM >>>>>> Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two >>>>>> empty pages, page 6 and page 8. >>>>>> How do I remove the empty pages? >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>>> >>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 17:41:10 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:41:10 -0800 Subject: Reminders and Text Messages In-Reply-To: References: <23A36E30-70B6-43BF-A26D-668CDAEDBB1E@internode.on.net> Message-ID: You can I believe do it in ICal. Just set the thing on yoru mac to send you a email which is a text message to your phone. Many companies have ways of oding that andI have a list of I believe all carriers that do this. Take care. On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:33 AM, krystal watson wrote: > wow yeah that would be sweet as a friend of yours may have the same event so you could send them a text or email as they may not have a i phone would be sweet > On 13/12/2011, at 11:04 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I rather like the reminders functions found in the new IOS update. >> >> I feel that this function could be further enhanced with a text messaging function. Suppose for example that a reminder falls on a particular date, it would be nice and handy to have the iPad or iPhone forward the reminder via a text message or an Email to say a friend or even yourself, anyone got an opinion on this or perhaps someone may have an idea of how I can already accomplish this task? >> >> Cheers! >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 19:20:19 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:20:19 -0500 Subject: What to do when an Application won't open In-Reply-To: <63BB9631-7590-4892-BE5B-CAFAF18F70E7@speedpost.net> References: <64654036-1849-4F30-933D-0B6009402664@gmail.com> <1AFFD501-90BF-4CAD-B2CC-E49A92FBC5D0@gmail.com> <1E99AD89-CEA9-4BEB-A762-F41207C0EC7B@mac-access.net> <63BB9631-7590-4892-BE5B-CAFAF18F70E7@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <1761F1A4-74D8-4ADC-8A8D-A95655DD9B15@gmail.com> No, it hasn't opened at all, and I've been using it for months. On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Ah, mplayerx. Are you sure the app hasn't opened without a window? Sometimes apps will do that, and they only have a menu bar instead of a full window. I'd use cmd-tab to check, I bet you'll find mplayerx listed that way. > Best, > Zack. > On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> sound pretty much like the app may not be compatible or unsupported so as a safe point, OS X refuses to run it. >> >> I noticed it in previos versions of OS X. >> >> I'm currently refurbishing a powerbook G3 Pismo 500 for freemacs for the blind and it's taken all weekend to install the OS (OS X 10.4) and today it finally paid off.... ok new dvdrw drive installed (hot swap bay, pinched a drive off a windows laptop and it works) but when running an app, if it doesn't support the OS in question, OS X blocks it out. >> >> it's a pain but hey it happens. >> >> Mplayer X. I'll look into that. >> >> what OS are you runnning and is it updated? >> >> lew >> >> On 12 Dec 2011, at 19:35, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >> >>> It's called Mplayer X and when I try to open it, nothing happens. No message, no activity of any kind. >>> >>> Kristeen >>> >>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I'm afraid without more specifics it's hard to answer the question. What program are you referring to, and what happens when you try to open it? >>>> Best, >>>> Zack. >>>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've seen folks write in with his situation, but I can't remember what they were told. I have a using program and all of the sudden it stopped open ing. It's always worked fine. I think there's a preference file or something I need to delete. Can someone refresh my memory? >>>>> >>>>> Kristeen Hughes >>>>> khwicca at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Kristeen Hughes >>> khwicca at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 19:41:00 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:41:00 +0000 Subject: System Access In-Reply-To: <5B4C52A28E054F578B6672CE8B4F47BD@karen796b6a58c> References: <5B4C52A28E054F578B6672CE8B4F47BD@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: you can use some of the mobile network ont he mac as it just webpages, though not all of its functions you can't actually use system access, the screenreader on the mac On Dec 13, 2011, at 4:29 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > Has anyone used System Access Mobile by Serotek for either the Mac or PC? How does its functionality compare to VO? > > Karen > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 20:33:01 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:33:01 -0800 Subject: What to do when an Application won't open In-Reply-To: <1761F1A4-74D8-4ADC-8A8D-A95655DD9B15@gmail.com> References: <64654036-1849-4F30-933D-0B6009402664@gmail.com> <1AFFD501-90BF-4CAD-B2CC-E49A92FBC5D0@gmail.com> <1E99AD89-CEA9-4BEB-A762-F41207C0EC7B@mac-access.net> <63BB9631-7590-4892-BE5B-CAFAF18F70E7@speedpost.net> <1761F1A4-74D8-4ADC-8A8D-A95655DD9B15@gmail.com> Message-ID: <35A8C42B-D552-483C-A832-4C4CD7E7EE2F@gmail.com> What happens if you reinstall the app? Will it then open as normal? On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > No, it hasn't opened at all, and I've been using it for months. > > > On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Ah, mplayerx. Are you sure the app hasn't opened without a window? Sometimes apps will do that, and they only have a menu bar instead of a full window. I'd use cmd-tab to check, I bet you'll find mplayerx listed that way. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >> >>> sound pretty much like the app may not be compatible or unsupported so as a safe point, OS X refuses to run it. >>> >>> I noticed it in previos versions of OS X. >>> >>> I'm currently refurbishing a powerbook G3 Pismo 500 for freemacs for the blind and it's taken all weekend to install the OS (OS X 10.4) and today it finally paid off.... ok new dvdrw drive installed (hot swap bay, pinched a drive off a windows laptop and it works) but when running an app, if it doesn't support the OS in question, OS X blocks it out. >>> >>> it's a pain but hey it happens. >>> >>> Mplayer X. I'll look into that. >>> >>> what OS are you runnning and is it updated? >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 12 Dec 2011, at 19:35, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >>> >>>> It's called Mplayer X and when I try to open it, nothing happens. No message, no activity of any kind. >>>> >>>> Kristeen >>>> >>>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I'm afraid without more specifics it's hard to answer the question. What program are you referring to, and what happens when you try to open it? >>>>> Best, >>>>> Zack. >>>>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've seen folks write in with his situation, but I can't remember what they were told. I have a using program and all of the sudden it stopped open ing. It's always worked fine. I think there's a preference file or something I need to delete. Can someone refresh my memory? >>>>>> >>>>>> Kristeen Hughes >>>>>> khwicca at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Kristeen Hughes >>>> khwicca at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >>> >>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >>> >>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >>> >>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>> http://www.mac-access.net >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 20:39:26 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:39:26 -0500 Subject: update on iCloud situation Message-ID: <53C4825C-80E6-46E9-9D3F-1AC50D4F198B@gmail.com> Hi, Now my iCloud email account is asking for my password, which I thought was the same as my apple ID. I know what my apple id password is, but if the iCloud one is separate, what's the best way to recover it. And now this is a problem across all of my ios devices. Thanks, Courtney From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 21:52:33 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:52:33 -0800 Subject: update on iCloud situation In-Reply-To: <53C4825C-80E6-46E9-9D3F-1AC50D4F198B@gmail.com> References: <53C4825C-80E6-46E9-9D3F-1AC50D4F198B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6F155D45-4258-4AF7-B9D3-AC2FADF5CB18@gmail.com> It should be hour apple ID if you set one up. if you set up a me.com address then it should be those credentials. On Dec 13, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Now my iCloud email account is asking for my password, which I thought was the same as my apple ID. I know what my apple id password is, but if the iCloud one is separate, what's the best way to recover it. And now this is a problem across all of my ios devices. > Thanks, > Courtney > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 21:57:37 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:57:37 -0500 Subject: update on iCloud situation In-Reply-To: <6F155D45-4258-4AF7-B9D3-AC2FADF5CB18@gmail.com> References: <53C4825C-80E6-46E9-9D3F-1AC50D4F198B@gmail.com> <6F155D45-4258-4AF7-B9D3-AC2FADF5CB18@gmail.com> Message-ID: <60119640-0111-48EA-B11F-F10856BBD2F2@gmail.com> Hi, That's what I thought, but those credentials aren't being accepted. Thanks, Courtney On 13/12/2011, at 4:52 in the Afternoon, Sarah Alawami wrote: > It should be hour apple ID if you set one up. if you set up a me.com address then it should be those credentials. > On Dec 13, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> Now my iCloud email account is asking for my password, which I thought was the same as my apple ID. I know what my apple id password is, but if the iCloud one is separate, what's the best way to recover it. And now this is a problem across all of my ios devices. >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Tue Dec 13 23:10:55 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:10:55 +1100 Subject: re moving apps around on a iphone In-Reply-To: <4F55CFB4-C0BB-4DD1-A55F-D9539D206849@gmail.com> References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> <001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> <32E95F7E-F392-4733-A6F1-A989AB1B63D6@gmail.com> <9BFC04FD-E79C-40B8-8A8A-6E030998E2EA@bluebottle.com> <4F55CFB4-C0BB-4DD1-A55F-D9539D206849@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5B385FA1-BA30-49C0-B3E7-F3E1E0AD4B28@bluebottle.com> thanks hopefully i will be able to do it properly in the near future On 14/12/2011, at 4:39 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Just thnk of it as a 8 by 8 colomn. I did an audio boo about it but listn to dean's podcast which was posted here. but also go to http://audioboo.fm/marrie1 and look for it there. it should be the first one as I have not posted in a few days lol! But everyone on twitter thought it was pretty good. > On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:43 AM, krystal watson wrote: > >> that is cool for you i am trying hard to get the process right of moving apps around but they keeping going where i don't want them or going on to another page or i get one right then i think wow i can do it then the next one i fale to place right and it ends up on page ten wow but with practice i will get it i guess just like i said the keyboard was to hard on the touch screen and now i can type just as fast as some one who can see with in reason i will get it in time if i try sorry i am rambiling on here talk later >> On 13/12/2011, at 3:24 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> That's the podcast I learned from. It took me after I listened to the podcast about 5 minutes to grasp it and then after that just practice and that's it. >>> >>> I'm not a pro at it yet but I can now while I'm talking to people be playing with my home screen arrangement. lol! >>> >>> Take care all. >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >>> If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 5:41 AM, krystal watson wrote: >>> >>>> well i am new to moving apps and i am sorry but others have told me its hard >>>> On 12/12/2011, at 5:19 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Actually that's not true. I can move things accurately. >>>>> >>>>> Basically you have a 8 by 8 matrix. the first column is the folders and the beep is the blank spot so just memorize that and you are fine. I can now move an app in seconds, or rather 2 depending on where I am and if I have to wait for the pause of a page change. >>>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 1:33 AM, krystal watson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have no way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where ever you drop it >>>>>> On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home button it >>>>>>> will do away with empty pages. HTH >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM >>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>> Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never mind, >>>>>>> It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. >>>>>>> Glenn >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Glenn" >>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM >>>>>>> Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two >>>>>>> empty pages, page 6 and page 8. >>>>>>> How do I remove the empty pages? >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>>>> >>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Wed Dec 14 02:05:02 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:05:02 -0500 Subject: update on iCloud situation In-Reply-To: <60119640-0111-48EA-B11F-F10856BBD2F2@gmail.com> References: <53C4825C-80E6-46E9-9D3F-1AC50D4F198B@gmail.com> <6F155D45-4258-4AF7-B9D3-AC2FADF5CB18@gmail.com> <60119640-0111-48EA-B11F-F10856BBD2F2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9CA50509-DFD9-4F80-AC15-DC466DE60917@me.com> Hello Courtney, The following Apple knowledge base article includes a number of questions and answers regarding the somewhat confusing world of the Apple ID. One of the FAQs in the article can help you determine if you have more than one Apple ID and can help you reset any passwords you might be having problems with. http://support.apple.com/kb/he37 HTH, Bryan >> On Dec 13, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>> Now my iCloud email account is asking for my password, which I thought was the same as my apple ID. I know what my apple id password is, but if the iCloud one is separate, what's the best way to recover it. And now this is a problem across all of my ios devices. From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 02:10:21 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:10:21 -0800 Subject: re moving apps around on a iphone In-Reply-To: <5B385FA1-BA30-49C0-B3E7-F3E1E0AD4B28@bluebottle.com> References: <7D7B6D3F246041D58B854958E15822E8@your2c061f0461> <4E34795C43FE460DA0C8FDCE9E2FD6EA@your2c061f0461> <001f01ccb78b$dcb57b40$962071c0$@gmail.com> <32E95F7E-F392-4733-A6F1-A989AB1B63D6@gmail.com> <9BFC04FD-E79C-40B8-8A8A-6E030998E2EA@bluebottle.com> <4F55CFB4-C0BB-4DD1-A55F-D9539D206849@gmail.com> <5B385FA1-BA30-49C0-B3E7-F3E1E0AD4B28@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: It just takes practice. It took me over 2 months to learn it. Take care. On Dec 13, 2011, at 3:10 PM, krystal watson wrote: > thanks hopefully i will be able to do it properly in the near future > On 14/12/2011, at 4:39 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Just thnk of it as a 8 by 8 colomn. I did an audio boo about it but listn to dean's podcast which was posted here. but also go to http://audioboo.fm/marrie1 and look for it there. it should be the first one as I have not posted in a few days lol! But everyone on twitter thought it was pretty good. >> On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:43 AM, krystal watson wrote: >> >>> that is cool for you i am trying hard to get the process right of moving apps around but they keeping going where i don't want them or going on to another page or i get one right then i think wow i can do it then the next one i fale to place right and it ends up on page ten wow but with practice i will get it i guess just like i said the keyboard was to hard on the touch screen and now i can type just as fast as some one who can see with in reason i will get it in time if i try sorry i am rambiling on here talk later >>> On 13/12/2011, at 3:24 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> That's the podcast I learned from. It took me after I listened to the podcast about 5 minutes to grasp it and then after that just practice and that's it. >>>> >>>> I'm not a pro at it yet but I can now while I'm talking to people be playing with my home screen arrangement. lol! >>>> >>>> Take care all. >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >>>> If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 5:41 AM, krystal watson wrote: >>>> >>>>> well i am new to moving apps and i am sorry but others have told me its hard >>>>> On 12/12/2011, at 5:19 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Actually that's not true. I can move things accurately. >>>>>> >>>>>> Basically you have a 8 by 8 matrix. the first column is the folders and the beep is the blank spot so just memorize that and you are fine. I can now move an app in seconds, or rather 2 depending on where I am and if I have to wait for the pause of a page change. >>>>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 1:33 AM, krystal watson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> its so hard to move things around on your i phone using v o you have no way to tell where the item is going to go untill it happens to go where ever you drop it >>>>>>> On 11/12/2011, at 9:34 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, this happens when you go to your first home page by the home button it >>>>>>>> will do away with empty pages. HTH >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:23 PM >>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never mind, >>>>>>>> It seems to have cleaned itself up, the empty pages disappeared. >>>>>>>> Glenn >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Glenn" >>>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:02 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: deleting empty pages from iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> I have 8 pages on my iPhone, and I moved some apps around, and I have two >>>>>>>> empty pages, page 6 and page 8. >>>>>>>> How do I remove the empty pages? >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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>>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 02:33:35 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:33:35 -0500 Subject: What to do when an Application won't open In-Reply-To: <35A8C42B-D552-483C-A832-4C4CD7E7EE2F@gmail.com> References: <64654036-1849-4F30-933D-0B6009402664@gmail.com> <1AFFD501-90BF-4CAD-B2CC-E49A92FBC5D0@gmail.com> <1E99AD89-CEA9-4BEB-A762-F41207C0EC7B@mac-access.net> <63BB9631-7590-4892-BE5B-CAFAF18F70E7@speedpost.net> <1761F1A4-74D8-4ADC-8A8D-A95655DD9B15@gmail.com> <35A8C42B-D552-483C-A832-4C4CD7E7EE2F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <21A36FFF-43CF-49EB-A817-37F728E4E775@gmail.com> I haven't tried that because I no longer have the package. Guess I'll go and get it and try that next. Kristeen On Dec 13, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > What happens if you reinstall the app? Will it then open as normal? > > On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> No, it hasn't opened at all, and I've been using it for months. >> >> >> On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >> >>> Ah, mplayerx. Are you sure the app hasn't opened without a window? Sometimes apps will do that, and they only have a menu bar instead of a full window. I'd use cmd-tab to check, I bet you'll find mplayerx listed that way. >>> Best, >>> Zack. >>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >>> >>>> sound pretty much like the app may not be compatible or unsupported so as a safe point, OS X refuses to run it. >>>> >>>> I noticed it in previos versions of OS X. >>>> >>>> I'm currently refurbishing a powerbook G3 Pismo 500 for freemacs for the blind and it's taken all weekend to install the OS (OS X 10.4) and today it finally paid off.... ok new dvdrw drive installed (hot swap bay, pinched a drive off a windows laptop and it works) but when running an app, if it doesn't support the OS in question, OS X blocks it out. >>>> >>>> it's a pain but hey it happens. >>>> >>>> Mplayer X. I'll look into that. >>>> >>>> what OS are you runnning and is it updated? >>>> >>>> lew >>>> >>>> On 12 Dec 2011, at 19:35, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's called Mplayer X and when I try to open it, nothing happens. No message, no activity of any kind. >>>>> >>>>> Kristeen >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I'm afraid without more specifics it's hard to answer the question. What program are you referring to, and what happens when you try to open it? >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Zack. >>>>>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've seen folks write in with his situation, but I can't remember what they were told. I have a using program and all of the sudden it stopped open ing. It's always worked fine. I think there's a preference file or something I need to delete. Can someone refresh my memory? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kristeen Hughes >>>>>>> khwicca at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kristeen Hughes >>>>> khwicca at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Mr. L. 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I would like to know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. Thanks, Kevin From blindman75 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 05:09:17 2011 From: blindman75 at gmail.com (Shaun Oliver) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:39:17 +1030 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EE82F7D.20807@gmail.com> Hi, I'd like to see automatic reading of chat messages, especiallyu on the IOS client. also, on the IOS client, I'd like to see the speaker/earpiece button go back to a toggle insteade of a popup like situation. On 14/12/2011 15:30, Kevin Chao wrote: > I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, > especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to > know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for > VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X > VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. > > Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues > that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user > experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Wed Dec 14 05:26:22 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:26:22 +1100 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my mac i am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list when ever i am in a skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up also speaker phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first try thanks cheers from krystal watson on 14/12/2011, at 4:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, > especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to > know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for > VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X > VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. > > Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues > that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user > experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access...net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Wed Dec 14 05:28:09 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:28:09 +1100 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: <4EE82F7D.20807@gmail.com> References: <4EE82F7D.20807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <159DE4E3-4600-4DF3-8C86-6A6ABC68E9A1@bluebottle.com> i also agree with the speaker phone ear peace i wish it could be a toggel and automatic reading of chats would be good in i o s and mac versions of skype On 14/12/2011, at 4:09 PM, Shaun Oliver wrote: > Hi, I'd like to see automatic reading of chat messages, especiallyu on the IOS client. also, on the IOS client, I'd like to see the speaker/earpiece button go back to a toggle insteade of a popup like situation. > > > On 14/12/2011 15:30, Kevin Chao wrote: >> I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, >> especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to >> know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for >> VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X >> VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. >> >> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues >> that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user >> experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access...net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 06:42:46 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:42:46 -0600 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: Hi Krysta, I don?t understand the issues you described, can you please further explain the below: On 12/13/11, krystal watson wrote: > hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my mac i > am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list Is the issue that when you're in an active call, you are unable to get to your contact list? > when ever i am in a > skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up What do you mean "all the skype history keeps building up"? Does this occur while you're on a call or once you've completed a call? How do you know the history is building up? What is being added? > also speaker > phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first try Is there a better place that the speakerphone button should be located and way to interact with it? If so, what do you suggest? Thanks, Kevin From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Dec 14 06:53:39 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:53:39 +0100 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50EFB6A6-5039-45D3-8B20-E421BF2B3CFE@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Kevin, My major gripe with Skype is how slow I find it to switch between chats. It was much easier when each chat opened in a new window and I could use the window chooser to find the one I wanted. I don't really use Skype enough to have found anything else. Cheers, Anne On 14 Dec 2011, at 06:00, Kevin Chao wrote: > I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, > especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to > know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for > VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X > VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. > > Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues > that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user > experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Wed Dec 14 07:10:23 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:10:23 +1100 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <2A2D335D-FE5E-4AB5-94F7-DD51E1E19F3C@bluebottle.com> ok for the first thing no i can not get to contact list while in a skype call and i would like to see the speaker phone ear piece toggel buttons back like they were in earlier i o s version of skype the history is for i o s only its just the skype has 21 new items on start up you see chats from weeks a go that are not new and it says there new the only way to stop it is to keep clearing skype history but it still piles up next time for example say you said hi krstal how are you on my mac right then i go have dinner and walk dog i log in on i phone that chat comes up as new even though i had got it like 2 hours before cheers hope this helps if not i will further explain it to you 14/12/2011, at 5:42 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > Hi Krysta, > > I don?t understand the issues you described, can you please further > explain the below: > On 12/13/11, krystal watson wrote: >> hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my mac i >> am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list > Is the issue that when you're in an active call, you are unable to get > to your contact list? >> when ever i am in a >> skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up > What do you mean "all the skype history keeps building up"? Does this > occur while you're on a call or once you've completed a call? How do > you know the history is building up? What is being added? >> also speaker >> phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first try > Is there a better place that the speakerphone button should be located > and way to interact with it? If so, what do you suggest? > > Thanks, > > Kevin > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access...net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From widgie77 at tpg.com.au Wed Dec 14 07:11:47 2011 From: widgie77 at tpg.com.au (Nicki Muir) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:11:47 +0800 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34F0ECDB-6C52-4CE0-A5B8-90B29C00AD3F@tpg.com.au> hello, can you please talk to them about Skype for the iPad, it is really difficult to use, in the sense that I don't know if it's a bug or just not there but it seems like the hang up button is completely missing when your in a call, I always have to get the other person to hang up the call. the iPhone app at least makes a little more sense. I tend to find myself using the iPhone app on my phone rather then the iPad, I would prefer it the other way round. I also agree with one of the previous statements on this list about chats being able to be put in separate windows under the old Skype 2.8 for mac. keep up the good work, glad to see someone is trying to do something about it, not all of us are as technically minded, believe me if I was I would of already tried to find a way of contacting them to explain what is difficult. the iPhone and the mac stuff I can live with but the iPad app is just a huge disappointment. On 14/12/2011, at 1:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, > especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to > know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for > VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X > VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. > > Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues > that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user > experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 08:27:30 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:27:30 -0600 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: <34F0ECDB-6C52-4CE0-A5B8-90B29C00AD3F@tpg.com.au> References: <34F0ECDB-6C52-4CE0-A5B8-90B29C00AD3F@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Nicki, Thanks for bringing up iPad Skype VoiceOver accessibility issue and end call button. I do have an iPad 2, will test, and report this accordingly. In addition to this, are there other issues you've seen with Skype/VoiceOver on iPad? Kevin On 12/14/11, Nicki Muir wrote: > hello, can you please talk to them about Skype for the iPad, it is really > difficult to use, in the sense that I don't know if it's a bug or just not > there but it seems like the hang up button is completely missing when your > in a call, I always have to get the other person to hang up the call. the > iPhone app at least makes a little more sense. I tend to find myself using > the iPhone app on my phone rather then the iPad, I would prefer it the > other way round. I also agree with one of the previous statements on this > list about chats being able to be put in separate windows under the old > Skype 2.8 for mac. > keep up the good work, glad to see someone is trying to do something about > it, not all of us are as technically minded, believe me if I was I would of > already tried to find a way of contacting them to explain what is difficult. > the iPhone and the mac stuff I can live with but the iPad app is just a huge > disappointment. > > On 14/12/2011, at 1:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, >> especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to >> know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for >> VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X >> VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. >> >> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues >> that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user >> experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From widgie77 at tpg.com.au Wed Dec 14 08:39:27 2011 From: widgie77 at tpg.com.au (Nicki Muir) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:39:27 +0800 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <34F0ECDB-6C52-4CE0-A5B8-90B29C00AD3F@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <44C899D0-C529-4F5A-8F9E-19BFB4E69DE0@tpg.com.au> there is one other issue that I don't know how to explain, but I'll give it my best shot. when your in any window of Skype for the iPad, all these numbers appear on the screen as well, I don't know what they mean as I haven't got someone sighted here to help me figure it out, but I've never seen these numbers anywhere else I've only ever seen them in this version of Skype. I would think if it was an across the board thing they would appear in the mac as well but they don't. On 14/12/2011, at 4:27 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > Hi Nicki, > > Thanks for bringing up iPad Skype VoiceOver accessibility issue and > end call button. I do have an iPad 2, will test, and report this > accordingly. In addition to this, are there other issues you've seen > with Skype/VoiceOver on iPad? > > Kevin > > On 12/14/11, Nicki Muir wrote: >> hello, can you please talk to them about Skype for the iPad, it is really >> difficult to use, in the sense that I don't know if it's a bug or just not >> there but it seems like the hang up button is completely missing when your >> in a call, I always have to get the other person to hang up the call. the >> iPhone app at least makes a little more sense. I tend to find myself using >> the iPhone app on my phone rather then the iPad, I would prefer it the >> other way round. I also agree with one of the previous statements on this >> list about chats being able to be put in separate windows under the old >> Skype 2.8 for mac. >> keep up the good work, glad to see someone is trying to do something about >> it, not all of us are as technically minded, believe me if I was I would of >> already tried to find a way of contacting them to explain what is difficult. >> the iPhone and the mac stuff I can live with but the iPad app is just a huge >> disappointment. >> >> On 14/12/2011, at 1:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: >> >>> I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, >>> especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to >>> know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for >>> VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X >>> VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. >>> >>> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues >>> that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user >>> experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Kevin >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 08:53:16 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:53:16 -0600 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <34F0ECDB-6C52-4CE0-A5B8-90B29C00AD3F@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Does the keyboard shortcut for switching conversations in 5.x Option+Cmd+Left/Right help? Is this an acceptable and workable solution to the issue with switching among various chats quickly? It's a lot faster and more effective than going to sources, scrolling, and back to HTML content. Kevin On 12/14/11, Kevin Chao wrote: > Hi Nicki, > > Thanks for bringing up iPad Skype VoiceOver accessibility issue and > end call button. I do have an iPad 2, will test, and report this > accordingly. In addition to this, are there other issues you've seen > with Skype/VoiceOver on iPad? > > Kevin > > On 12/14/11, Nicki Muir wrote: >> hello, can you please talk to them about Skype for the iPad, it is really >> difficult to use, in the sense that I don't know if it's a bug or just >> not >> there but it seems like the hang up button is completely missing when >> your >> in a call, I always have to get the other person to hang up the call. the >> iPhone app at least makes a little more sense. I tend to find myself >> using >> the iPhone app on my phone rather then the iPad, I would prefer it the >> other way round. I also agree with one of the previous statements on this >> list about chats being able to be put in separate windows under the old >> Skype 2.8 for mac. >> keep up the good work, glad to see someone is trying to do something >> about >> it, not all of us are as technically minded, believe me if I was I would >> of >> already tried to find a way of contacting them to explain what is >> difficult. >> the iPhone and the mac stuff I can live with but the iPad app is just a >> huge >> disappointment. >> >> On 14/12/2011, at 1:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: >> >>> I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, >>> especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to >>> know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for >>> VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X >>> VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. >>> >>> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues >>> that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user >>> experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Kevin >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > From widgie77 at tpg.com.au Wed Dec 14 09:07:34 2011 From: widgie77 at tpg.com.au (Nicki Muir) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:07:34 +0800 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <34F0ECDB-6C52-4CE0-A5B8-90B29C00AD3F@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <0ADC3E72-B87D-44B1-A70C-7D31B75A1BFF@tpg.com.au> works perfectly fine here for me on my mac, I'd completely forgotten about that one but thanks for reminding me. it's deffently a much easier alternative. On 14/12/2011, at 4:53 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > Does the keyboard shortcut for switching conversations in 5.x > Option+Cmd+Left/Right help? Is this an acceptable and workable > solution to the issue with switching among various chats quickly? It's > a lot faster and more effective than going to sources, scrolling, and > back to HTML content. > > Kevin > > On 12/14/11, Kevin Chao wrote: >> Hi Nicki, >> >> Thanks for bringing up iPad Skype VoiceOver accessibility issue and >> end call button. I do have an iPad 2, will test, and report this >> accordingly. In addition to this, are there other issues you've seen >> with Skype/VoiceOver on iPad? >> >> Kevin >> >> On 12/14/11, Nicki Muir wrote: >>> hello, can you please talk to them about Skype for the iPad, it is really >>> difficult to use, in the sense that I don't know if it's a bug or just >>> not >>> there but it seems like the hang up button is completely missing when >>> your >>> in a call, I always have to get the other person to hang up the call. the >>> iPhone app at least makes a little more sense. I tend to find myself >>> using >>> the iPhone app on my phone rather then the iPad, I would prefer it the >>> other way round. I also agree with one of the previous statements on this >>> list about chats being able to be put in separate windows under the old >>> Skype 2.8 for mac. >>> keep up the good work, glad to see someone is trying to do something >>> about >>> it, not all of us are as technically minded, believe me if I was I would >>> of >>> already tried to find a way of contacting them to explain what is >>> difficult. >>> the iPhone and the mac stuff I can live with but the iPad app is just a >>> huge >>> disappointment. >>> >>> On 14/12/2011, at 1:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: >>> >>>> I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, >>>> especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to >>>> know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for >>>> VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X >>>> VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. >>>> >>>> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues >>>> that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user >>>> experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Dec 14 09:17:07 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:17:07 +0000 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <34F0ECDB-6C52-4CE0-A5B8-90B29C00AD3F@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <9A5FFFEE-8875-4415-95B4-59BD5C77AC2F@computing.dcu.ie> Kevin, There are occasions when this command does/does not work. For example, occasionally if one is in the edit field, said command doesn't work. I have also noticed this behaviour when interacting with the HTML portion of the chat window. It's also noting the VO command vo-j is useful for quitkly jumping from portions of the chat window. On 14 Dec 2011, at 08:53, Kevin Chao wrote: > Does the keyboard shortcut for switching conversations in 5.x > Option+Cmd+Left/Right help? Is this an acceptable and workable > solution to the issue with switching among various chats quickly? It's > a lot faster and more effective than going to sources, scrolling, and > back to HTML content. > > Kevin > > On 12/14/11, Kevin Chao wrote: >> Hi Nicki, >> >> Thanks for bringing up iPad Skype VoiceOver accessibility issue and >> end call button. I do have an iPad 2, will test, and report this >> accordingly. In addition to this, are there other issues you've seen >> with Skype/VoiceOver on iPad? >> >> Kevin >> >> On 12/14/11, Nicki Muir wrote: >>> hello, can you please talk to them about Skype for the iPad, it is really >>> difficult to use, in the sense that I don't know if it's a bug or just >>> not >>> there but it seems like the hang up button is completely missing when >>> your >>> in a call, I always have to get the other person to hang up the call. the >>> iPhone app at least makes a little more sense. I tend to find myself >>> using >>> the iPhone app on my phone rather then the iPad, I would prefer it the >>> other way round. I also agree with one of the previous statements on this >>> list about chats being able to be put in separate windows under the old >>> Skype 2.8 for mac. >>> keep up the good work, glad to see someone is trying to do something >>> about >>> it, not all of us are as technically minded, believe me if I was I would >>> of >>> already tried to find a way of contacting them to explain what is >>> difficult. >>> the iPhone and the mac stuff I can live with but the iPad app is just a >>> huge >>> disappointment. >>> >>> On 14/12/2011, at 1:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: >>> >>>> I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, >>>> especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to >>>> know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for >>>> VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X >>>> VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. >>>> >>>> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues >>>> that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user >>>> experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 13:22:08 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:22:08 -0500 Subject: Some safari quetions In-Reply-To: <559220.98184.qm@smtp821.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <559220.98184.qm@smtp821.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thank you very much for the info. Kristeen On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:26 PM, David Griffith wrote: > Command plus left and right arrows are short cuts for back and forward > through previously loaded pages.. > Tab will move you through links and elements on a page. Shift tab will move > you back > It is worthwhile learning to navigate by other elements such as headers and > edit boxes as this makes using Safari much easier.. > To read word by word interact with the text. > To have a word spelt press VO w twice. To have a word spelt phonetically > press vo w three time. Pressing VO W once will just say the current word. > > If I really want to look closely at some text in safari I often just copy it > to Text Edit and review it there. > > This is a bit of a challenge to select and copy text in Safari and many of > the methods people post do not work for me using Lion. but the 2 easy > methods I use is shift vo c to copy the last spoken phrase to the clipboard > and then paste that in Text edit. You can also easily select all with > command A and then command c and then command V to paste in a whole page > into text Edit. > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes > Sent: 12 December 2011 18:59 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Some safari quetions > > Safari is my weakest link on the Mac. I can never quite accomplish what I > want. What is the difference between using the command+left and right arrows > to move through links and the tab and shift+tab? They obviously do something > different, but I'm not sure of the scoop. > > Also, if I'm sitting on a link or some text, how can I get Safari to read it > word by word or character by character? > > Thanks. > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 6552 (20111018) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 6552 (20111018) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 6552 (20111018) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From d.griffith at btinternet.com Wed Dec 14 16:42:05 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:42:05 +0000 Subject: Behaviour of Voiceover with Say all Message-ID: <4C6EF4A6-EAD4-4765-A44E-5286C24DBDEA@btinternet.com> A few days ago somebody complained that voiceover was no longer performing the Say all command properly. In other words voiceover was treating all Say all requests as if you were pressing VO B rather than VO A. All of a sudden today I experienced the same behaviour. No matter where I was in a long textedit document pressing VO A jumped me back to the beginning of the Document. Basically closing down and restarting Text Edit appeared to solve the problem. So if somebody else encounters this just try quitting the application and restarting it. David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com From rattail4 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 17:52:34 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:52:34 -0500 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: I think what she's saying, and I've seen this too is when in a Skype call with lion you can't see your contacts or Skype call controls, at least not easily -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Chao" Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:42 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility > Hi Krysta, > > I don?t understand the issues you described, can you please further > explain the below: > On 12/13/11, krystal watson wrote: >> hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my mac >> i >> am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list > Is the issue that when you're in an active call, you are unable to get > to your contact list? >> when ever i am in a >> skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up > What do you mean "all the skype history keeps building up"? Does this > occur while you're on a call or once you've completed a call? How do > you know the history is building up? What is being added? >> also speaker >> phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first try > Is there a better place that the speakerphone button should be located > and way to interact with it? If so, what do you suggest? > > Thanks, > > Kevin > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 18:13:31 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:13:31 -0800 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <650D9E0D-2781-4ACD-8BA0-74499832C299@gmail.com> I'm fine with the vo accessibility on mac but ios needs a lot of work. 1. the dial pad cannot be an image. It has to be numbers you can flick to. 2. rename the buttons in a call. they are misnamed and called menu after every one. That's about it. On Dec 13, 2011, at 9:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, > especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to > know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for > VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X > VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. > > Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues > that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user > experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 18:14:30 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:14:30 -0800 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: <4EE82F7D.20807@gmail.com> References: <4EE82F7D.20807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <82FF14CA-9788-472F-A55C-4CD3EC3C6B88@gmail.com> You can already read chat messages under alerts if you have it set to do so. I did it all the time . until it got annoying as the system voice takes over. I have not rried the reading o c chats under ios as I'm in dnd all the time. On Dec 13, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Shaun Oliver wrote: > Hi, I'd like to see automatic reading of chat messages, especiallyu on the IOS client. also, on the IOS client, I'd like to see the speaker/earpiece button go back to a toggle insteade of a popup like situation. > > > On 14/12/2011 15:30, Kevin Chao wrote: >> I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, >> especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to >> know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for >> VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X >> VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. >> >> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues >> that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user >> experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 18:18:37 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:18:37 -0800 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <34F0ECDB-6C52-4CE0-A5B8-90B29C00AD3F@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: > yeah it does help and work wonderfully. I have about a hundred favorites and it helps when reading all of my chats that come in. I also use the vo j command from the table which helps a lot and is fast. Also you can just start to type from the html area as it will go to the text edit field. Pretty cool eh? On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:53 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: > Does the keyboard shortcut for switching conversations in 5.x > Option+Cmd+Left/Right help? Is this an acceptable and workable > solution to the issue with switching among various chats quickly? It's > a lot faster and more effective than going to sources, scrolling, and > back to HTML content. > > Kevin > > On 12/14/11, Kevin Chao wrote: >> Hi Nicki, >> >> Thanks for bringing up iPad Skype VoiceOver accessibility issue and >> end call button. I do have an iPad 2, will test, and report this >> accordingly. In addition to this, are there other issues you've seen >> with Skype/VoiceOver on iPad? >> >> Kevin >> >> On 12/14/11, Nicki Muir wrote: >>> hello, can you please talk to them about Skype for the iPad, it is really >>> difficult to use, in the sense that I don't know if it's a bug or just >>> not >>> there but it seems like the hang up button is completely missing when >>> your >>> in a call, I always have to get the other person to hang up the call. the >>> iPhone app at least makes a little more sense. I tend to find myself >>> using >>> the iPhone app on my phone rather then the iPad, I would prefer it the >>> other way round. I also agree with one of the previous statements on this >>> list about chats being able to be put in separate windows under the old >>> Skype 2.8 for mac. >>> keep up the good work, glad to see someone is trying to do something >>> about >>> it, not all of us are as technically minded, believe me if I was I would >>> of >>> already tried to find a way of contacting them to explain what is >>> difficult. >>> the iPhone and the mac stuff I can live with but the iPad app is just a >>> huge >>> disappointment. >>> >>> On 14/12/2011, at 1:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: >>> >>>> I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, >>>> especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to >>>> know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for >>>> VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X >>>> VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. >>>> >>>> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues >>>> that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user >>>> experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 18:19:42 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:19:42 -0800 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <467A0713-C407-4B85-B90C-2D29BE36EF33@gmail.com> Sure you can. but it take some fiddling wiht the splitters. i can't remember which pair though. I think it's the horizantal splitter that you have to decrease the percentage by. On Dec 14, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Mike Welty wrote: > I think what she's saying, and I've seen this too is when in a Skype call with lion you can't see your contacts or Skype call controls, at least not easily > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Kevin Chao" > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:42 > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility > >> Hi Krysta, >> >> I don?t understand the issues you described, can you please further >> explain the below: >> On 12/13/11, krystal watson wrote: >>> hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my mac i >>> am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list >> Is the issue that when you're in an active call, you are unable to get >> to your contact list? >>> when ever i am in a >>> skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up >> What do you mean "all the skype history keeps building up"? Does this >> occur while you're on a call or once you've completed a call? How do >> you know the history is building up? What is being added? >>> also speaker >>> phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first try >> Is there a better place that the speakerphone button should be located >> and way to interact with it? If so, what do you suggest? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 18:16:30 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:16:30 -0800 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <218F5050-E044-4459-ABF9-BFA512EFDAD0@gmail.com> For that all you need to do is just vo left to the table. I have no issues getting back to the table whilst in a call and adding contacts and stuff. I do agree that the speaker button is hard to find and my friend also says hanging up is almost impossible. In fact he wrote to skype and said that if they don't fix all of this by christmas he would make this a public matter through any means he could find. 'Take care. On Dec 13, 2011, at 9:26 PM, krystal watson wrote: > hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my mac i am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list when ever i am in a skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up also speaker phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first try thanks cheers from krystal watson on > 14/12/2011, at 4:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, >> especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to >> know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for >> VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X >> VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. >> >> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues >> that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user >> experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access...net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Wed Dec 14 19:18:34 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon, Lynne & Tracy) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:18:34 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <618301C5-DFAE-4724-9A25-3594D00C12F6@mac-access.net> Hello everybody It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: Glenn S Kroll to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as VMWare Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. With regards Apple's Windows applications such as the Windows version of iTunes, discussion of those is off topic. We realise that may sound churlish; however this is strictly a Mac OS and iOS forum. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick, and we will be happy to help you. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable and educative experience. We can all learn from each other, and that's what Mac Access is about. Lynne From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Wed Dec 14 19:21:59 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:21:59 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: <618301C5-DFAE-4724-9A25-3594D00C12F6@mac-access.net> References: <618301C5-DFAE-4724-9A25-3594D00C12F6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8C44C407-6FD1-44EE-AA5F-1133426ABEAC@mac-access.net> Welcome glenn, may you have fun on here, help solve problems and post your queries here for us all to help with. take care and a very merry christmas to you and to all here. lew On 14 Dec 2011, at 19:18, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: > Hello everybody > > It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: > Glenn S Kroll > to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. > > In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. > > Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as VMWare Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. With regards Apple's Windows applications such as the Windows version of iTunes, discussion of those is off topic. We realise that may sound churlish; however this is strictly a Mac OS and iOS forum. > > If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick, and we will be happy to help you. > > Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: > http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog > > Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable and educative experience. We can all learn from each other, and that's what Mac Access is about. > > > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Dec 14 19:23:58 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:23:58 +1100 Subject: ABC iView app for iPad Message-ID: <22FB9729-97D3-4DB7-BC48-A6F5270024CB@internode.on.net> Howdy Folks! So for those in Australia who wish to access the "ABC iView" site your chance seems to have come at long last with the launch of the ABC iView app. Before the app came along the ABC iView web site was a pain in the behind to use given the extensive use of the Flash player. IOS devices don't use Flash thank Goodness. I downloaded the ABC iView app a little while ago and installed it onto my iPad, O took a look at the app and was very pleased with what I found the app offered the iView viewer. I've only played with the iView app for a few minutes and there are sections I haven't looked around ihn yet but I can tell you that its a snap! to select the TV programme you wish to view and have the iView app load and play it for you. A nice touch is the ability to use "Airplay" to stream the iView programme to something like an Apple TV which may have a TV connected to it thus you can view the programme on a device with a larger screen than what your iPad may have. A job well done ABC and I can only hope that your iView web site becomes more accessible in the future. Hi! Has anyone tried this app on the iPad and if so how did you find it? Sent from my iPad From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 19:29:34 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:29:34 +0000 Subject: BBC iPlayer app In-Reply-To: <018355FE-5E31-4634-88BD-AC804DBFE09B@internode.on.net> References: <018355FE-5E31-4634-88BD-AC804DBFE09B@internode.on.net> Message-ID: i can use it but no audio described programs, and i guess ahve be in UK to use it which i of course, am can't seem to stop a program even though i find pause button On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Has anyone tried this app on the iPad and if so how did you find it? > > > > Sent from my iPad > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Wed Dec 14 19:30:08 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:30:08 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: <8C44C407-6FD1-44EE-AA5F-1133426ABEAC@mac-access.net> References: <618301C5-DFAE-4724-9A25-3594D00C12F6@mac-access.net> <8C44C407-6FD1-44EE-AA5F-1133426ABEAC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Glenn! And there is no such thing as a Dumb question on this list! :] Colin On 14 Dec 2011, at 19:21, Lewis Alexander wrote: > Welcome glenn, may you have fun on here, help solve problems and post your queries here for us all to help with. > > take care and a very merry christmas to you and to all here. > > lew > > On 14 Dec 2011, at 19:18, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >> Glenn S Kroll >> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. >> >> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >> >> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as VMWare Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. With regards Apple's Windows applications such as the Windows version of iTunes, discussion of those is off topic. We realise that may sound churlish; however this is strictly a Mac OS and iOS forum. >> >> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick, and we will be happy to help you. >> >> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: >> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >> >> Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable and educative experience. We can all learn from each other, and that's what Mac Access is about. >> >> >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Dec 14 19:37:54 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:37:54 +1100 Subject: ABC iView app for iPad Message-ID: Howdy Folks! So for those in Australia who wish to access the "ABC iView" site your chance seems to have come at long last with the launch of the ABC iView app. Before the app came along the ABC iView web site was a pain in the behind to use given the extensive use of the Flash player. IOS devices don't use Flash thank Goodness. I downloaded the ABC iView app a little while ago and installed it onto my iPad, O took a look at the app and was very pleased with what I found the app offered the iView viewer. I've only played with the iView app for a few minutes and there are sections I haven't looked around in yet but I can tell you that its a snap! to select the TV programme you wish to view and have the iView app load and play it for you. A nice touch is the ability to use "Airplay" to stream the iView programme to something like an Apple TV which may have a TV connected to it thus you can view the programme on a device with a larger screen than what your iPad may have. A job well done ABC and I can only hope that your iView web site becomes more accessible in the future. References: <618301C5-DFAE-4724-9A25-3594D00C12F6@mac-access.net> <8C44C407-6FD1-44EE-AA5F-1133426ABEAC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: what? not even...... Where do I plug this?..... lol lew On 14 Dec 2011, at 19:30, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Glenn! > And there is no such thing as a Dumb question on this list! :] > Colin > > On 14 Dec 2011, at 19:21, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> Welcome glenn, may you have fun on here, help solve problems and post your queries here for us all to help with. >> >> take care and a very merry christmas to you and to all here. >> >> lew >> >> On 14 Dec 2011, at 19:18, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >>> Glenn S Kroll >>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. >>> >>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >>> >>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as VMWare Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. With regards Apple's Windows applications such as the Windows version of iTunes, discussion of those is off topic. We realise that may sound churlish; however this is strictly a Mac OS and iOS forum. >>> >>> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick, and we will be happy to help you. >>> >>> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: >>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >>> >>> Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable and educative experience. We can all learn from each other, and that's what Mac Access is about. >>> >>> >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 22:05:11 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:05:11 -0600 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: <218F5050-E044-4459-ABF9-BFA512EFDAD0@gmail.com> References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> <218F5050-E044-4459-ABF9-BFA512EFDAD0@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks everyone! I've taken all the feedback that's been shared via this thread, especially as it relates to VoiceOver accessibility and Skype of what's not working at all, what can work better, or what people would like to see. I've taken all of this and provided all this feedback as individual bug reports into the bug tracking system. Each specific issue/suggestion/request are individual bug reports with lots of required detailed information. The Beta Manager, Product Manager, and Engineers all have seen these reports or will see them very soon. Thanks, Kevin On 12/14/11, Sarah Alawami wrote: > For that all you need to do is just vo left to the table. I have no issues > getting back to the table whilst in a call and adding contacts and stuff. > > I do agree that the speaker button is hard to find and my friend also says > hanging up is almost impossible. > > In fact he wrote to skype and said that if they don't fix all of this by > christmas he would make this a public matter through any means he could > find. > > 'Take care. > On Dec 13, 2011, at 9:26 PM, krystal watson wrote: > >> hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my mac >> i am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list when ever i am in a >> skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up also >> speaker phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first >> try thanks cheers from krystal watson on >> 14/12/2011, at 4:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: >> >>> I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, >>> especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to >>> know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for >>> VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X >>> VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. >>> >>> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues >>> that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user >>> experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Kevin >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access...net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 22:13:05 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:13:05 -0600 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: <44C899D0-C529-4F5A-8F9E-19BFB4E69DE0@tpg.com.au> References: <34F0ECDB-6C52-4CE0-A5B8-90B29C00AD3F@tpg.com.au> <44C899D0-C529-4F5A-8F9E-19BFB4E69DE0@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Nicki, Can you provide steps to reproduce to get to these numbers on iPad app and write down exactly what it says (review by character if needed). Also, if you could specify which screen you're in as well, that would help out greatly. Thanks, Kevin On 12/14/11, Nicki Muir wrote: > there is one other issue that I don't know how to explain, but I'll give it > my best shot. when your in any window of Skype for the iPad, all these > numbers appear on the screen as well, I don't know what they mean as I > haven't got someone sighted here to help me figure it out, but I've never > seen these numbers anywhere else I've only ever seen them in this version of > Skype. I would think if it was an across the board thing they would appear > in the mac as well but they don't. > > On 14/12/2011, at 4:27 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> Hi Nicki, >> >> Thanks for bringing up iPad Skype VoiceOver accessibility issue and >> end call button. I do have an iPad 2, will test, and report this >> accordingly. In addition to this, are there other issues you've seen >> with Skype/VoiceOver on iPad? >> >> Kevin >> >> On 12/14/11, Nicki Muir wrote: >>> hello, can you please talk to them about Skype for the iPad, it is really >>> difficult to use, in the sense that I don't know if it's a bug or just >>> not >>> there but it seems like the hang up button is completely missing when >>> your >>> in a call, I always have to get the other person to hang up the call. the >>> iPhone app at least makes a little more sense. I tend to find myself >>> using >>> the iPhone app on my phone rather then the iPad, I would prefer it the >>> other way round. I also agree with one of the previous statements on this >>> list about chats being able to be put in separate windows under the old >>> Skype 2.8 for mac. >>> keep up the good work, glad to see someone is trying to do something >>> about >>> it, not all of us are as technically minded, believe me if I was I would >>> of >>> already tried to find a way of contacting them to explain what is >>> difficult. >>> the iPhone and the mac stuff I can live with but the iPad app is just a >>> huge >>> disappointment. >>> >>> On 14/12/2011, at 1:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: >>> >>>> I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, >>>> especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to >>>> know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for >>>> VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X >>>> VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. >>>> >>>> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues >>>> that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user >>>> experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 22:15:13 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:15:13 -0600 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: When in an active call, what steps are people taking to try and get to various controls, and to get to contacts list?> Please, detailed specific steps, including keyboard commands. Kevin On 12/14/11, Mike Welty wrote: > I think what she's saying, and I've seen this too is when in a Skype call > with lion you can't see your contacts or Skype call controls, at least not > easily > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Kevin Chao" > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:42 > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility > >> Hi Krysta, >> >> I don?t understand the issues you described, can you please further >> explain the below: >> On 12/13/11, krystal watson wrote: >>> hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my mac >>> >>> i >>> am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list >> Is the issue that when you're in an active call, you are unable to get >> to your contact list? >>> when ever i am in a >>> skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up >> What do you mean "all the skype history keeps building up"? Does this >> occur while you're on a call or once you've completed a call? How do >> you know the history is building up? What is being added? >>> also speaker >>> phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first try >> Is there a better place that the speakerphone button should be located >> and way to interact with it? If so, what do you suggest? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 22:45:06 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:45:06 -0600 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: Please be sure everyone are running the latest public Skype version from Skype.com, there?s a public 5.4 beta available. I cannot ensure or guarantee that all these issues will be fixed, but can assure that they are being reported properly, within the tracking system, and all the managers, engineers, and testers are seeing these issues. This is in huge contrast to how Skype Voiceover accessibility was handled before I was added as a beta tester, where people were talking about them, finding work-arounds, and settling for these issues within forums, mailing list, Twitter, etc. Kevin On 12/14/11, Kevin Chao wrote: > When in an active call, what steps are people taking to try and get to > various controls, and to get to contacts list?> Please, detailed > specific steps, including keyboard commands. > > Kevin > > On 12/14/11, Mike Welty wrote: >> I think what she's saying, and I've seen this too is when in a Skype >> call >> with lion you can't see your contacts or Skype call controls, at least >> not >> easily >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Kevin Chao" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:42 >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility >> >>> Hi Krysta, >>> >>> I don?t understand the issues you described, can you please further >>> explain the below: >>> On 12/13/11, krystal watson wrote: >>>> hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my >>>> mac >>>> >>>> i >>>> am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list >>> Is the issue that when you're in an active call, you are unable to get >>> to your contact list? >>>> when ever i am in a >>>> skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up >>> What do you mean "all the skype history keeps building up"? Does this >>> occur while you're on a call or once you've completed a call? How do >>> you know the history is building up? What is being added? >>>> also speaker >>>> phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first try >>> Is there a better place that the speakerphone button should be located >>> and way to interact with it? If so, what do you suggest? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Kevin >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> >>> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Thu Dec 15 01:37:56 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:37:56 -0600 Subject: Skype Accessibility References: Message-ID: <7EFEBA71DC264927855977C3E3781B0D@your2c061f0461> Hi Kevin, I sent you a message from my work e-mail earlier, but it was from this list that I got your message from. I have not been able to delete messages from my Skype on my iPhone. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Chao" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:00 PM Subject: Skype Accessibility I?m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion?s/issues that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. Thanks, Kevin <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 01:38:35 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:38:35 -0800 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: I'm running a public beta and have experienced no voice over issues as far as I can tell. Take care. On Dec 14, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > Please be sure everyone are running the latest public Skype version > from Skype.com, there?s a public 5.4 beta available. > > I cannot ensure or guarantee that all these issues will be fixed, but > can assure that they are being reported properly, within the tracking > system, and all the managers, engineers, and testers are seeing these > issues. This is in huge contrast to how Skype Voiceover accessibility > was handled before I was added as a beta tester, where people were > talking about them, finding work-arounds, and settling for these > issues within forums, mailing list, Twitter, etc. > > Kevin > > > On 12/14/11, Kevin Chao wrote: >> When in an active call, what steps are people taking to try and get to >> various controls, and to get to contacts list?> Please, detailed >> specific steps, including keyboard commands. >> >> Kevin >> >> On 12/14/11, Mike Welty wrote: >>> I think what she's saying, and I've seen this too is when in a Skype >>> call >>> with lion you can't see your contacts or Skype call controls, at least >>> not >>> easily >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Kevin Chao" >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:42 >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility >>> >>>> Hi Krysta, >>>> >>>> I don?t understand the issues you described, can you please further >>>> explain the below: >>>> On 12/13/11, krystal watson wrote: >>>>> hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my >>>>> mac >>>>> >>>>> i >>>>> am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list >>>> Is the issue that when you're in an active call, you are unable to get >>>> to your contact list? >>>>> when ever i am in a >>>>> skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up >>>> What do you mean "all the skype history keeps building up"? Does this >>>> occur while you're on a call or once you've completed a call? How do >>>> you know the history is building up? What is being added? >>>>> also speaker >>>>> phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first try >>>> Is there a better place that the speakerphone button should be located >>>> and way to interact with it? If so, what do you suggest? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>>> >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Thu Dec 15 03:14:24 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 03:14:24 +0000 Subject: voice recording on the mac Message-ID: <4ee96375.8861b40a.6b15.04ee@mx.google.com> is there an equivalent of sound recorder for the mac for being able to do voice recordings? From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Dec 15 03:06:13 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane trethowan) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:06:13 +1100 Subject: voice recording on the mac In-Reply-To: <4ee96375.8861b40a.6b15.04ee@mx.google.com> References: <4ee96375.8861b40a.6b15.04ee@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4EE96425.209@internode.on.net> Yep indeed, you can use Quicktime Player for recording. On 15/12/2011 2:14 PM, michael weaver wrote: > is there an equivalent of sound recorder for the mac for being able to > do voice recordings? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 03:32:59 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:32:59 -0800 Subject: voice recording on the mac In-Reply-To: <4EE96425.209@internode.on.net> References: <4ee96375.8861b40a.6b15.04ee@mx.google.com> <4EE96425.209@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <7C3A1FCC-EE88-459B-8507-FACB5B261E53@gmail.com> Be aware that it saves in mov format which is video but there are programs to convert that to what ever format. but I have used that before for quick recording job things. Take care all Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Dane trethowan wrote: > Yep indeed, you can use Quicktime Player for recording. > > > > On 15/12/2011 2:14 PM, michael weaver wrote: >> is there an equivalent of sound recorder for the mac for being able to do voice recordings? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Dec 15 03:43:24 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:43:24 +1100 Subject: voice recording on the mac In-Reply-To: <7C3A1FCC-EE88-459B-8507-FACB5B261E53@gmail.com> References: <4ee96375.8861b40a.6b15.04ee@mx.google.com> <4EE96425.209@internode.on.net> <7C3A1FCC-EE88-459B-8507-FACB5B261E53@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EE96CDC.5040006@internode.on.net> Sorry that's wrong, it records and saves in both audio and video formats. On 15/12/2011 2:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Be aware that it saves in mov format which is video but there are programs to convert that to what ever format. > > but I have used that before for quick recording job things. > > Take care all > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Dane trethowan wrote: > >> Yep indeed, you can use Quicktime Player for recording. >> >> >> >> On 15/12/2011 2:14 PM, michael weaver wrote: >>> is there an equivalent of sound recorder for the mac for being able to do voice recordings? >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> -- >> sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan Sending email from his EEEPC Netbook From juanitatighan at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 03:36:44 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:36:44 -0500 Subject: voice recording on the mac In-Reply-To: <7C3A1FCC-EE88-459B-8507-FACB5B261E53@gmail.com> References: <4ee96375.8861b40a.6b15.04ee@mx.google.com> <4EE96425.209@internode.on.net> <7C3A1FCC-EE88-459B-8507-FACB5B261E53@gmail.com> Message-ID: There's also Audacity. It's free and records in .wav format. If uou get the right plugin ( have not) you can record in MP3 too. Jane On Dec 14, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Be aware that it saves in mov format which is video but there are programs to convert that to what ever format. > > but I have used that before for quick recording job things. > > Take care all > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Dane trethowan wrote: > >> Yep indeed, you can use Quicktime Player for recording. >> >> >> >> On 15/12/2011 2:14 PM, michael weaver wrote: >>> is there an equivalent of sound recorder for the mac for being able to do voice recordings? >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> -- >> sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 06:17:16 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:17:16 -0800 Subject: voice recording on the mac In-Reply-To: <4EE96CDC.5040006@internode.on.net> References: <4ee96375.8861b40a.6b15.04ee@mx.google.com> <4EE96425.209@internode.on.net> <7C3A1FCC-EE88-459B-8507-FACB5B261E53@gmail.com> <4EE96CDC.5040006@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <52E5F8DD-5C03-42D0-A3BB-DEB113AE3FE1@gmail.com> Hmm when I did it it saved only in mov for audio. unless they updated it with lion. Take care all. On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:43 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Sorry that's wrong, it records and saves in both audio and video formats. > > > > On 15/12/2011 2:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> Be aware that it saves in mov format which is video but there are programs to convert that to what ever format. >> >> but I have used that before for quick recording job things. >> >> Take care all >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >> If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Dane trethowan wrote: >> >>> Yep indeed, you can use Quicktime Player for recording. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 15/12/2011 2:14 PM, michael weaver wrote: >>>> is there an equivalent of sound recorder for the mac for being able to do voice recordings? >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> -- >>> sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > Dane Trethowan > Sending email from his EEEPC Netbook > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Thu Dec 15 07:09:44 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:09:44 +1100 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: yes that is what i am saying how can i interact with the table if it is not there even if i do v o left arrow thanks for reporting all of our problems cheers from krystal watson On 15/12/2011, at 9:15 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: > When in an active call, what steps are people taking to try and get to > various controls, and to get to contacts list?> Please, detailed > specific steps, including keyboard commands. > > Kevin > > On 12/14/11, Mike Welty wrote: >> I think what she's saying, and I've seen this too is when in a Skype call >> with lion you can't see your contacts or Skype call controls, at least not >> easily >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Kevin Chao" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:42 >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility >> >>> Hi Krysta, >>> >>> I don?t understand the issues you described, can you please further >>> explain the below: >>> On 12/13/11, krystal watson wrote: >>>> hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my mac >>>> >>>> i >>>> am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list >>> Is the issue that when you're in an active call, you are unable to get >>> to your contact list? >>>> when ever i am in a >>>> skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up >>> What do you mean "all the skype history keeps building up"? Does this >>> occur while you're on a call or once you've completed a call? How do >>> you know the history is building up? What is being added? >>>> also speaker >>>> phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first try >>> Is there a better place that the speakerphone button should be located >>> and way to interact with it? If so, what do you suggest? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Kevin >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> >>> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access...net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Thu Dec 15 08:34:09 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:34:09 +0000 Subject: a problem with audacity Message-ID: <4ee9ae66.8bcbe30a.6d78.25e7@mx.google.com> i have just installed audacity on my macbook. however although it worked the first time when i was exploring the app, for some reason an "unknown" dialogue keeps popping up and i am sure this is preventing me from making a recording because i have tried lower and capital r, command r and control r but when i do a space to stop and do the go go to start option and hit play i get nothing at all so i am wondering if i accidentally chose something under preferences which is causing me to get this "unknown" dialogue and preventing me from doing anything with the app. From margaretebooth at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 09:26:59 2011 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:26:59 +1100 Subject: Help with text edit Message-ID: <-8916083247890799124@unknownmsgid> When I bring up the save dialogue box after I press command s and I type in the name of the document and then I move to where pop up then I press VO space bar Then I go through the choices of where I can save the document I can't find my folder that I created on the desktop What I want to know is how do I save my document in the folder that I created? Margaret Sent from my iPhone From d.griffith at btinternet.com Thu Dec 15 09:59:33 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:59:33 -0000 Subject: Help with text edit References: <-8916083247890799124@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <8BE4814A5E214FDFB2914DA4E5EA9A4D@acer4d025c48b8> There are two places to navigate to in the save dialogue. The first is as you have discovered is the pop up button. This works a little like the folder area in a windows save dialogue. The pop up button will hold recent folders and also let you navigate to drives or your entire Mac. To navigate on a more detailed level you need to use the file browser. I think you may need disclosure checked to see this. Anyway keep on moving pass the pop up button and you will eventually hear voiceover say browser. interact with this and the file browser will open with the location you have set in the pop up button. I find it easiest to use column view in the browser this so that all you do is press right and left cursor keys to navigate between folders to where you want to go. Stop interacting when you are where you want to be and press the save button. Actually pressing vo space will probably do the trick without stopping interacting but you can experimenter. Remember a couple of tips. Pressing vo end - I am not sure what the laptop keys are- will jump VO focus to the last button in the dialogue box. This can save time. Also item chooser works everywhere so is a quick way of jumping to buttons by first letter navigation. David Griffith. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Booth" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:26 AM Subject: Help with text edit > When I bring up the save dialogue box after I press command s and I > type in the name of the document and then I move to where pop up then > I press VO space bar Then I go through the choices of where I can > save the document I can't find my folder that I created on the > desktop What I want to know is how do I save my document in the > folder that I created? > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 11:26:32 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:26:32 -0600 Subject: iOS Skype 3.6 Message-ID: Do *NOT* update to Skype 3.6. There's a significant VoiceOver accessibility regression, where conversation history content area is completely inaccessible on iPhone and iPad. I wasn't added to beta until several days ago (after app was submitted to iOS app store). I did file a couple of dozen bug reports against VoiceOver accessibility, but it wasn't in time for this release. Sent from my iPhone From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 12:06:10 2011 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria, Joe and Karly) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:06:10 +1100 Subject: ABC iView app for iPad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EE9E2B2.9050101@gmail.com> HI dane. is this app available for the iphone? Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com dj on www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk On 15/12/2011 6:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Howdy Folks! > > So for those in Australia who wish to access the "ABC iView" site your chance seems to have come at long last with the launch of the ABC iView app. > > Before the app came along the ABC iView web site was a pain in the behind to use given the extensive use of the Flash player. > > IOS devices don't use Flash thank Goodness. > > I downloaded the ABC iView app a little while ago and installed it onto my iPad, O took a look at the app and was very pleased with what I found the app offered the iView viewer. > > I've only played with the iView app for a few minutes and there are sections I haven't looked around in yet but I can tell you that its a snap! to select the TV programme you wish to view and have the iView app load and play it for you. > > A nice touch is the ability to use "Airplay" to stream the iView programme to something like an Apple TV which may have a TV connected to it thus you can view the programme on a device with a larger screen than what your iPad may have. > > A job well done ABC and I can only hope that your iView web site becomes more accessible in the future. > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Dec 15 12:20:32 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane trethowan) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:20:32 +1100 Subject: ABC iView app for iPad In-Reply-To: <4EE9E2B2.9050101@gmail.com> References: <4EE9E2B2.9050101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EE9E610.8010009@internode.on.net> I don't believe it is and the reason is screen size, try doing a search for it in Itunes and you'll soon see if its available. On 15/12/2011 11:06 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: > HI dane. is this app available for the iphone? > > > Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia > > God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to > say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" > twitter bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > dj on www.powerradio104.us > join me on > www.tafn.org.uk > > > On 15/12/2011 6:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Howdy Folks! >> >> So for those in Australia who wish to access the "ABC iView" site >> your chance seems to have come at long last with the launch of the >> ABC iView app. >> >> Before the app came along the ABC iView web site was a pain in the >> behind to use given the extensive use of the Flash player. >> >> IOS devices don't use Flash thank Goodness. >> >> I downloaded the ABC iView app a little while ago and installed it >> onto my iPad, O took a look at the app and was very pleased with what >> I found the app offered the iView viewer. >> >> I've only played with the iView app for a few minutes and there are >> sections I haven't looked around in yet but I can tell you that its a >> snap! to select the TV programme you wish to view and have the iView >> app load and play it for you. >> >> A nice touch is the ability to use "Airplay" to stream the iView >> programme to something like an Apple TV which may have a TV connected >> to it thus you can view the programme on a device with a larger >> screen than what your iPad may have. >> >> A job well done ABC and I can only hope that your iView web site >> becomes more accessible in the future. >> >> > >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 12:47:24 2011 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria, Joe and Karly) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:47:24 +1100 Subject: ABC iView app for iPad In-Reply-To: <4EE9E610.8010009@internode.on.net> References: <4EE9E2B2.9050101@gmail.com> <4EE9E610.8010009@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4EE9EC5C.1090103@gmail.com> HI. thanks. will do. Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com dj on www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk On 15/12/2011 11:20 PM, Dane trethowan wrote: > I don't believe it is and the reason is screen size, try doing a > search for it in Itunes and you'll soon see if its available. > > > > On 15/12/2011 11:06 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: >> HI dane. is this app available for the iphone? >> >> >> Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia >> >> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to >> say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" >> twitter bubbygirl >> skype: bubbygirl1972 >> msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> dj on www.powerradio104.us >> join me on >> www.tafn.org.uk >> >> >> On 15/12/2011 6:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Howdy Folks! >>> >>> So for those in Australia who wish to access the "ABC iView" site >>> your chance seems to have come at long last with the launch of the >>> ABC iView app. >>> >>> Before the app came along the ABC iView web site was a pain in the >>> behind to use given the extensive use of the Flash player. >>> >>> IOS devices don't use Flash thank Goodness. >>> >>> I downloaded the ABC iView app a little while ago and installed it >>> onto my iPad, O took a look at the app and was very pleased with >>> what I found the app offered the iView viewer. >>> >>> I've only played with the iView app for a few minutes and there are >>> sections I haven't looked around in yet but I can tell you that its >>> a snap! to select the TV programme you wish to view and have the >>> iView app load and play it for you. >>> >>> A nice touch is the ability to use "Airplay" to stream the iView >>> programme to something like an Apple TV which may have a TV >>> connected to it thus you can view the programme on a device with a >>> larger screen than what your iPad may have. >>> >>> A job well done ABC and I can only hope that your iView web site >>> becomes more accessible in the future. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Dec 15 12:46:22 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane trethowan) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:46:22 +1100 Subject: ABC iView app for iPad In-Reply-To: <4EE9EC5C.1090103@gmail.com> References: <4EE9E2B2.9050101@gmail.com> <4EE9E610.8010009@internode.on.net> <4EE9EC5C.1090103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EE9EC1E.7050904@internode.on.net> I read about the ABC iView app in today's Age green Guide and they said there that an app for iPad was avaialble but you never know, they may have their facts wrong . On 15/12/2011 11:47 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: > HI. thanks. will do. > > Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia > > God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to > say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" > twitter bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > dj on www.powerradio104.us > join me on > www.tafn.org.uk > > > On 15/12/2011 11:20 PM, Dane trethowan wrote: >> I don't believe it is and the reason is screen size, try doing a >> search for it in Itunes and you'll soon see if its available. >> >> >> >> On 15/12/2011 11:06 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: >>> HI dane. is this app available for the iphone? >>> >>> >>> Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia >>> >>> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just >>> to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" >>> twitter bubbygirl >>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>> msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>> dj on www.powerradio104.us >>> join me on >>> www.tafn.org.uk >>> >>> >>> On 15/12/2011 6:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> Howdy Folks! >>>> >>>> So for those in Australia who wish to access the "ABC iView" site >>>> your chance seems to have come at long last with the launch of the >>>> ABC iView app. >>>> >>>> Before the app came along the ABC iView web site was a pain in the >>>> behind to use given the extensive use of the Flash player. >>>> >>>> IOS devices don't use Flash thank Goodness. >>>> >>>> I downloaded the ABC iView app a little while ago and installed it >>>> onto my iPad, O took a look at the app and was very pleased with >>>> what I found the app offered the iView viewer. >>>> >>>> I've only played with the iView app for a few minutes and there are >>>> sections I haven't looked around in yet but I can tell you that its >>>> a snap! to select the TV programme you wish to view and have the >>>> iView app load and play it for you. >>>> >>>> A nice touch is the ability to use "Airplay" to stream the iView >>>> programme to something like an Apple TV which may have a TV >>>> connected to it thus you can view the programme on a device with a >>>> larger screen than what your iPad may have. >>>> >>>> A job well done ABC and I can only hope that your iView web site >>>> becomes more accessible in the future. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 13:31:57 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:31:57 -0600 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: You are using wrong way to filter. There is specific quickfilter field in the main window toolbar. You need to enter the "toolbar" table and then navigate to a field which is labelled as "Search search text field". Using this quickfilter will present all relevant conversations and contact matching the string you entered. Kevin On 12/15/11, krystal watson wrote: > yes that is what i am saying how can i interact with the table if it is not > there even if i do v o left arrow thanks for reporting all of our problems > cheers from krystal watson > On 15/12/2011, at 9:15 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> When in an active call, what steps are people taking to try and get to >> various controls, and to get to contacts list?> Please, detailed >> specific steps, including keyboard commands. >> >> Kevin >> >> On 12/14/11, Mike Welty wrote: >>> I think what she's saying, and I've seen this too is when in a Skype call >>> with lion you can't see your contacts or Skype call controls, at least >>> not >>> easily >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Kevin Chao" >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:42 >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility >>> >>>> Hi Krysta, >>>> >>>> I don?t understand the issues you described, can you please further >>>> explain the below: >>>> On 12/13/11, krystal watson wrote: >>>>> hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my >>>>> mac >>>>> >>>>> i >>>>> am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list >>>> Is the issue that when you're in an active call, you are unable to get >>>> to your contact list? >>>>> when ever i am in a >>>>> skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up >>>> What do you mean "all the skype history keeps building up"? Does this >>>> occur while you're on a call or once you've completed a call? How do >>>> you know the history is building up? What is being added? >>>>> also speaker >>>>> phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first try >>>> Is there a better place that the speakerphone button should be located >>>> and way to interact with it? If so, what do you suggest? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>>> >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access...net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 13:35:46 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:35:46 -0600 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: Re: startup focus/source. By design. Paid users DO have focus in contact list. Non paid users have focus in Skype Home which is the "random HTML content" described. Kevin On 12/15/11, Kevin Chao wrote: > You are using wrong way to filter. > There is specific quickfilter field in the main window toolbar. > You need to enter the "toolbar" table and then navigate to a field > which is labelled as "Search search text field". > Using this quickfilter will present all relevant conversations and > contact matching the string you entered. > > Kevin > > On 12/15/11, krystal watson wrote: >> yes that is what i am saying how can i interact with the table if it is >> not >> there even if i do v o left arrow thanks for reporting all of our >> problems >> cheers from krystal watson >> On 15/12/2011, at 9:15 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: >> >>> When in an active call, what steps are people taking to try and get to >>> various controls, and to get to contacts list?> Please, detailed >>> specific steps, including keyboard commands. >>> >>> Kevin >>> >>> On 12/14/11, Mike Welty wrote: >>>> I think what she's saying, and I've seen this too is when in a Skype >>>> call >>>> with lion you can't see your contacts or Skype call controls, at least >>>> not >>>> easily >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Kevin Chao" >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:42 >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>> Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility >>>> >>>>> Hi Krysta, >>>>> >>>>> I don?t understand the issues you described, can you please further >>>>> explain the below: >>>>> On 12/13/11, krystal watson wrote: >>>>>> hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on my >>>>>> mac >>>>>> >>>>>> i >>>>>> am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list >>>>> Is the issue that when you're in an active call, you are unable to get >>>>> to your contact list? >>>>>> when ever i am in a >>>>>> skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up >>>>> What do you mean "all the skype history keeps building up"? Does this >>>>> occur while you're on a call or once you've completed a call? How do >>>>> you know the history is building up? What is being added? >>>>>> also speaker >>>>>> phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first >>>>>> try >>>>> Is there a better place that the speakerphone button should be located >>>>> and way to interact with it? If so, what do you suggest? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting >>>>> >>>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum >>>> at >>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access...net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Dec 15 13:50:05 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 00:50:05 +1100 Subject: Reading email messages on the iPhone Message-ID: Hi! Been a while since I've done this and obviously things have changed. I can open an email easily enough but how to read the body of the Email? The iPhoe is different from the iPad with Mail. Sent from Dane's Iphone +61457756048 From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Thu Dec 15 13:57:59 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:57:59 +0000 Subject: Reading email messages on the iPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40D28DA4-61CB-420B-A64D-096572484DFD@googlemail.com> Hi I just open the email and swipe across the scream with one thinner Hope this helps Ian mcnamara Sent from my iPhone On 15 Dec 2011, at 13:50, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Been a while since I've done this and obviously things have changed. > > I can open an email easily enough but how to read the body of the Email? > > The iPhoe is different from the iPad with Mail. > > > > > Sent from Dane's Iphone +61457756048 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Thu Dec 15 15:37:34 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:37:34 -0600 Subject: Help with how to make sure previous documents open don't open upon relaunching of that program Message-ID: <59100819-F250-4990-9101-D9B0B485F965@swbell.net> Hi list, I was wondering if there is a way to disable the last document to be open when you relaunch a program. What I am trying to do is as follows: When for example I launch text edit, it always brings up the last document I was in. What I want to do is have a blank document instead of me having to manually open it. Is this possible? Thanks so much in advance. From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Thu Dec 15 15:39:37 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:39:37 -0600 Subject: VM help Message-ID: <5C95FD57-93DA-474D-B2DD-AFBAF8E71F9A@swbell.net> Hi list: When I set up VM fusion, I had it set up for 2 gb of memory allotted to windows plus 2 to the mac side of things. I have noticed some issues with sluggishness etc when the vm fusion is running. I just bough t more memory and about to get it installed. My question is as follows. Since my vm fusion is already set up, is there a way to reallocate memory for both sides of the system? IF so, can someone please let me know how? From sandratomkins at googlemail.com Thu Dec 15 15:43:32 2011 From: sandratomkins at googlemail.com (Sandy Tomkins) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:43:32 +0000 Subject: Reading email messages on the iPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BEFD583-971A-4537-AB59-7545794716C6@googlemail.com> Hi Dane, Not sure what might have changed, but for me the following choices work. 1. Upon opening an email from the inbox, VO is automatically placed at the start of the message body. This was introduced with IOS5. So a two finger flick down will read the rest to me. 2. Should I be moving from message to message via "Previous" or "next" VO is not automatically placed at the start of the message body, so I just place my finger approx one inch (2.5 Cm) down from the top left of the screen. I usually hear "message body" announced in a lower voice, or maybe I will hear the date before the message, either way a two finger flick down will read the text. HTH, Sandy. Sent from my iPhone On 15 Dec 2011, at 13:50, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Been a while since I've done this and obviously things have changed. > > I can open an email easily enough but how to read the body of the Email? > > The iPhoe is different from the iPad with Mail. > > > > > Sent from Dane's Iphone +61457756048 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Dec 15 17:38:56 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:38:56 -0500 Subject: Connecting to sites using SSH protocol In-Reply-To: <16207243-5197-4E72-A3EE-ACAFD2EEBA5A@bigpond.net.au> References: <16207243-5197-4E72-A3EE-ACAFD2EEBA5A@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: There's an sftp command in osx. If you want secure ftp, use sftp instead of standard ftp. It all works exactly the same. Of course, this assumes you don't mind the terminal, and have knowledge of the ftp commands. But, assuming all that is true, there's your secure ftp. (ncftp supports this too), but again, command-line only. Though, someone did mention transmit handles secure ftp, so that may work for you too. From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 17:44:07 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:44:07 -0600 Subject: Skype Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <46C7D4F5-3E35-47EF-A554-6ECB7D7656E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: There is a + button in the incoming call monitor labelled in VO as "merge calls button" Kevin On 12/15/11, Kevin Chao wrote: > Re: startup focus/source. > By design. > Paid users DO have focus in contact list. > Non paid users have focus in Skype Home which is the "random HTML > content" described. > > Kevin > > On 12/15/11, Kevin Chao wrote: >> You are using wrong way to filter. >> There is specific quickfilter field in the main window toolbar. >> You need to enter the "toolbar" table and then navigate to a field >> which is labelled as "Search search text field". >> Using this quickfilter will present all relevant conversations and >> contact matching the string you entered. >> >> Kevin >> >> On 12/15/11, krystal watson wrote: >>> yes that is what i am saying how can i interact with the table if it is >>> not >>> there even if i do v o left arrow thanks for reporting all of our >>> problems >>> cheers from krystal watson >>> On 15/12/2011, at 9:15 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: >>> >>>> When in an active call, what steps are people taking to try and get to >>>> various controls, and to get to contacts list?> Please, detailed >>>> specific steps, including keyboard commands. >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> >>>> On 12/14/11, Mike Welty wrote: >>>>> I think what she's saying, and I've seen this too is when in a Skype >>>>> call >>>>> with lion you can't see your contacts or Skype call controls, at least >>>>> not >>>>> easily >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "Kevin Chao" >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:42 >>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>> Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Krysta, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don?t understand the issues you described, can you please further >>>>>> explain the below: >>>>>> On 12/13/11, krystal watson wrote: >>>>>>> hi not sure if this is a bug but when ever i am in a skype call on >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> mac >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i >>>>>>> am using lion i can not get to my contact sauce list >>>>>> Is the issue that when you're in an active call, you are unable to >>>>>> get >>>>>> to your contact list? >>>>>>> when ever i am in a >>>>>>> skype call. with i o s all the skype history keeps building up >>>>>> What do you mean "all the skype history keeps building up"? Does this >>>>>> occur while you're on a call or once you've completed a call? How do >>>>>> you know the history is building up? What is being added? >>>>>>> also speaker >>>>>>> phone button is hard to find and does not always actavate on first >>>>>>> try >>>>>> Is there a better place that the speakerphone button should be >>>>>> located >>>>>> and way to interact with it? If so, what do you suggest? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Kevin >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum >>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus >>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting >>>>>> >>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum >>>>> at >>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting >>>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access...net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum >>> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >> > From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Dec 15 17:44:40 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 04:44:40 +1100 Subject: voice recording on the mac In-Reply-To: <52E5F8DD-5C03-42D0-A3BB-DEB113AE3FE1@gmail.com> References: <4ee96375.8861b40a.6b15.04ee@mx.google.com> <4EE96425.209@internode.on.net> <7C3A1FCC-EE88-459B-8507-FACB5B261E53@gmail.com> <4EE96CDC.5040006@internode.on.net> <52E5F8DD-5C03-42D0-A3BB-DEB113AE3FE1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9F3DEB07-04B3-499A-BD4E-BFF87B9B3694@internode.on.net> For audio it outputs in M4A and for video in MOV but regardless of that its probably the easiest way to get started when it comes to making any recording including voice as its perfectly accessible. I don't think I'd be too worried about audio and video file converters if all I wanted to do was to make recordings and play them back as M4A is compatible with most things nowadays. So to make a recording with Quicktime, select "Make New Audio Recording" from the file menu, next select the device you want to record from and by default this is usually the built-in microphone. Then press the record button and yap away, press the stop button when finished and press the play button to hear what you've recording. On 15/12/2011, at 5:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hmm when I did it it saved only in mov for audio. unless they updated it with lion. > > Take care all. > On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:43 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Sorry that's wrong, it records and saves in both audio and video formats. >> >> >> >> On 15/12/2011 2:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> Be aware that it saves in mov format which is video but there are programs to convert that to what ever format. >>> >>> but I have used that before for quick recording job things. >>> >>> Take care all >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >>> If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Dane trethowan wrote: >>> >>>> Yep indeed, you can use Quicktime Player for recording. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 15/12/2011 2:14 PM, michael weaver wrote: >>>>> is there an equivalent of sound recorder for the mac for being able to do voice recordings? >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> Sending email from his EEEPC Netbook >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 19:45:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:45:47 -0800 Subject: getting my purchased playlist back in iTunes. Message-ID: <35145CC4-2BBC-4B0B-ABBB-4430AA19D895@gmail.com> hello. After updating to the new iTunes I noticed my purchases playlist is going. How do I get it back? I need to download something to the mac iTunes library that got deleted some how when I screwed things up. Thanks. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Dec 15 19:50:51 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:50:51 +1100 Subject: getting my purchased playlist back in iTunes. In-Reply-To: <35145CC4-2BBC-4B0B-ABBB-4430AA19D895@gmail.com> References: <35145CC4-2BBC-4B0B-ABBB-4430AA19D895@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EEA4F9B.1070702@internode.on.net> I could be wrong here but isn't there a specification in the rules section of smart playlists that specifies whether a track has been purchased or not? If that's the case then you could make a smart playlist to bring all your purchases back. On 16/12/2011 6:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > hello. After updating to the new iTunes I noticed my purchases playlist is going. How do I get it back? I need to download something to the mac iTunes library that got deleted some how when I screwed things up. > > Thanks. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 20:05:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:05:08 -0800 Subject: getting my purchased playlist back in iTunes. In-Reply-To: <4EEA4F9B.1070702@internode.on.net> References: <35145CC4-2BBC-4B0B-ABBB-4430AA19D895@gmail.com> <4EEA4F9B.1070702@internode.on.net> Message-ID: There used to be a purchased playlist section where you can go to that, and then vo right to show purchases button. After that you could go to the various tabs and choose weather it's on your mac or not on your mac and download them. This is how I grabbed all 200 apps and 2 music purchases I made over the last year. Unless they broke something. I don't see it in the prefs anywhere. Take care all. On Dec 15, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > I could be wrong here but isn't there a specification in the rules section of smart playlists that specifies whether a track has been purchased or not? If that's the case then you could make a smart playlist to bring all your purchases back. > > > > On 16/12/2011 6:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> hello. After updating to the new iTunes I noticed my purchases playlist is going. How do I get it back? I need to download something to the mac iTunes library that got deleted some how when I screwed things up. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >> If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > skype callto:grtdane12 > MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From raven2046 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 20:45:16 2011 From: raven2046 at gmail.com (Amber Harmon) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:45:16 -0600 Subject: VM help In-Reply-To: <5C95FD57-93DA-474D-B2DD-AFBAF8E71F9A@swbell.net> References: <5C95FD57-93DA-474D-B2DD-AFBAF8E71F9A@swbell.net> Message-ID: <59EEBDEC-B731-4262-8E86-43E041D1D097@gmail.com> Hi Mike your name sounds fimaure did you ever play a mud called miriani if so can you please get in touch with me? On Dec 15, 2011, at 9:39 AM, michael maslo wrote: > Hi list: > > When I set up VM fusion, I had it set up for 2 gb of memory allotted to windows plus 2 to the mac side of things. I have noticed some issues with sluggishness etc when the vm fusion is running. > > I just bough t more memory and about to get it installed. > > My question is as follows. Since my vm fusion is already set up, is there a way to reallocate memory for both sides of the system? > > IF so, can someone please let me know how? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Thu Dec 15 21:03:59 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Thejazzden) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:03:59 +0000 Subject: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone Message-ID: Hello My old folding ThinkOutside Bluetooth keyboard is finally dying after much u'se. Can anyone recommend a replacement ? My only stipulation is that I feel most comfortable with as near as possible full-size keys for speed touch typing. i live in the UK. Dennis. hanks. Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Fri Dec 16 05:03:15 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:03:15 -0600 Subject: VM help In-Reply-To: <59EEBDEC-B731-4262-8E86-43E041D1D097@gmail.com> References: <5C95FD57-93DA-474D-B2DD-AFBAF8E71F9A@swbell.net> <59EEBDEC-B731-4262-8E86-43E041D1D097@gmail.com> Message-ID: <19F4C44A-1C37-46CC-A3ED-D07405FEEA45@swbell.net> Yes I am. What email want me to write you at? On Dec 15, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Amber Harmon wrote: > Hi Mike your name sounds fimaure did you ever play a mud called miriani if so can you please get in touch with me? > On Dec 15, 2011, at 9:39 AM, michael maslo wrote: > >> Hi list: >> >> When I set up VM fusion, I had it set up for 2 gb of memory allotted to windows plus 2 to the mac side of things. I have noticed some issues with sluggishness etc when the vm fusion is running. >> >> I just bough t more memory and about to get it installed. >> >> My question is as follows. Since my vm fusion is already set up, is there a way to reallocate memory for both sides of the system? >> >> IF so, can someone please let me know how? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From a.beech at bigpond.net.au Fri Dec 16 06:59:56 2011 From: a.beech at bigpond.net.au (Adrian Beech) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:59:56 +1000 Subject: ABC iView app for iPad In-Reply-To: <4EE9EC1E.7050904@internode.on.net> References: <4EE9E2B2.9050101@gmail.com> <4EE9E610.8010009@internode.on.net> <4EE9EC5C.1090103@gmail.com> <4EE9EC1E.7050904@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <002401ccbbc0$51b0d4c0$f5127e40$@bigpond.net.au> G'day Dane and others, Poking around the app store using iTunes it Looks like there is only the iPad version, darn and blast. Hmmmmmmm, there could be technical reasons for this though. BTW, it may be worthwhile sending an e-mail to iview at your.abc.net.au to ask about a version for the iPhone, iPod, etc. You never know if enough people request an alternative platform version with an explanation as to how useful the app would be to V O users it may become reality. Dane, are you able to comment on how the app performs on the iPad, i.e. smoothness, buffering of content, bandwidth usage? Ciao. AB -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dane trethowan Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:46 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: ABC iView app for iPad I read about the ABC iView app in today's Age green Guide and they said there that an app for iPad was avaialble but you never know, they may have their facts wrong . On 15/12/2011 11:47 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: > HI. thanks. will do. > > Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia > > God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to > say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" > twitter bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com dj on > www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk > > > On 15/12/2011 11:20 PM, Dane trethowan wrote: >> I don't believe it is and the reason is screen size, try doing a >> search for it in Itunes and you'll soon see if its available. >> >> >> >> On 15/12/2011 11:06 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: >>> HI dane. is this app available for the iphone? >>> >>> >>> Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia >>> >>> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just >>> to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" >>> twitter bubbygirl >>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>> msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com dj on >>> www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk >>> >>> >>> On 15/12/2011 6:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> Howdy Folks! >>>> >>>> So for those in Australia who wish to access the "ABC iView" site >>>> your chance seems to have come at long last with the launch of the >>>> ABC iView app. >>>> >>>> Before the app came along the ABC iView web site was a pain in the >>>> behind to use given the extensive use of the Flash player. >>>> >>>> IOS devices don't use Flash thank Goodness. >>>> >>>> I downloaded the ABC iView app a little while ago and installed it >>>> onto my iPad, O took a look at the app and was very pleased with >>>> what I found the app offered the iView viewer. >>>> >>>> I've only played with the iView app for a few minutes and there are >>>> sections I haven't looked around in yet but I can tell you that its >>>> a snap! to select the TV programme you wish to view and have the >>>> iView app load and play it for you. >>>> >>>> A nice touch is the ability to use "Airplay" to stream the iView >>>> programme to something like an Apple TV which may have a TV >>>> connected to it thus you can view the programme on a device with a >>>> larger screen than what your iPad may have. >>>> >>>> A job well done ABC and I can only hope that your iView web site >>>> becomes more accessible in the future. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6715 (20111215) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Dec 16 13:36:44 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:36:44 +0000 Subject: revisiting my Preview problem. Message-ID: <9932FB2B-8026-4CFD-BE98-1C556FB121F8@computing.dcu.ie> Folks, Just coming back to a problem I was having with Preview. I'll try to summarise: 1. Each time I open the application I have to reset it to "single page" instead of "continuous". 2. When reading with VO, the last part of each page is "cut off". What happens is the tone usuallly signifying that "zoom" needs to be pressed is played. In the VO help menu under "sounds" the title of the sound played in this instance is "more available". If anyone has any thoughts I'd *really* appreciate them as I have a thesis to read. As a fallback I'll bring this thing into ibooks for now but it's bugging the hell out of me. Cheers. D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From GlennErvin at cableone.net Fri Dec 16 14:09:11 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:09:11 -0600 Subject: ABC iView app for iPad References: <4EE9E2B2.9050101@gmail.com><4EE9E610.8010009@internode.on.net> <4EE9EC5C.1090103@gmail.com><4EE9EC1E.7050904@internode.on.net> <002401ccbbc0$51b0d4c0$f5127e40$@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: What is it? Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Beech" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:59 AM Subject: RE: ABC iView app for iPad G'day Dane and others, Poking around the app store using iTunes it Looks like there is only the iPad version, darn and blast. Hmmmmmmm, there could be technical reasons for this though. BTW, it may be worthwhile sending an e-mail to iview at your.abc.net.au to ask about a version for the iPhone, iPod, etc. You never know if enough people request an alternative platform version with an explanation as to how useful the app would be to V O users it may become reality. Dane, are you able to comment on how the app performs on the iPad, i.e. smoothness, buffering of content, bandwidth usage? Ciao. AB -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dane trethowan Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:46 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: ABC iView app for iPad I read about the ABC iView app in today's Age green Guide and they said there that an app for iPad was avaialble but you never know, they may have their facts wrong . On 15/12/2011 11:47 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: > HI. thanks. will do. > > Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia > > God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to > say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" > twitter bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com dj on > www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk > > > On 15/12/2011 11:20 PM, Dane trethowan wrote: >> I don't believe it is and the reason is screen size, try doing a >> search for it in Itunes and you'll soon see if its available. >> >> >> >> On 15/12/2011 11:06 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: >>> HI dane. is this app available for the iphone? >>> >>> >>> Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia >>> >>> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just >>> to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" >>> twitter bubbygirl >>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>> msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com dj on >>> www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk >>> >>> >>> On 15/12/2011 6:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> Howdy Folks! >>>> >>>> So for those in Australia who wish to access the "ABC iView" site >>>> your chance seems to have come at long last with the launch of the >>>> ABC iView app. >>>> >>>> Before the app came along the ABC iView web site was a pain in the >>>> behind to use given the extensive use of the Flash player. >>>> >>>> IOS devices don't use Flash thank Goodness. >>>> >>>> I downloaded the ABC iView app a little while ago and installed it >>>> onto my iPad, O took a look at the app and was very pleased with >>>> what I found the app offered the iView viewer. >>>> >>>> I've only played with the iView app for a few minutes and there are >>>> sections I haven't looked around in yet but I can tell you that its >>>> a snap! to select the TV programme you wish to view and have the >>>> iView app load and play it for you. >>>> >>>> A nice touch is the ability to use "Airplay" to stream the iView >>>> programme to something like an Apple TV which may have a TV >>>> connected to it thus you can view the programme on a device with a >>>> larger screen than what your iPad may have. >>>> >>>> A job well done ABC and I can only hope that your iView web site >>>> becomes more accessible in the future. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From d.griffith at btinternet.com Fri Dec 16 14:18:16 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:18:16 +0000 Subject: feedback on Mumeric keyboard for the Mac Message-ID: <81D1C51A-43FE-4503-B20C-81554AD255E2@btinternet.com> A few days ago I posted a question about numeric keypads and the mac. I wanted one as the Ergonomic keyboard i was intending to buy did not have a num pad and I use num pad commander all the time. I spotted a USB numeric keypad on amazon for ?7 so decided to take a punt on it. I have just plugged it in an although the Mac was very confused by it and said it did not recognise it as a keyboard it nevertheless works perfectly with Voiceover and the Num Pad commander. I just closed keyboard assistant and all was fine. Although the unit is cheap it does not feel cheap with solid keys with a good travel. The keys have a slightly rubbery feel rather than the polished affect of the Apple keyboards. On balance think I prefer the rubbery texture as there is more friction and less chance of a finger slip. I can now go ahead and purchase a Mac Ergonomic keyboard and hopefully the masses of typing I have to do inn the next 12 months will be a more pleasurable experience. Unfortunately the ergonomic keyboard is not cheap, I think about ?130 I seem to remember or about $200 but I think the increase in cropper typing posture and comfort for my wrists shoulder and back will make it worthwhile . David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 14:26:25 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:26:25 -0500 Subject: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I like the Apple Bt keyboard. you can find it at the link below. http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC184LL/B?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY Also like this case for it and it will also convert to a stand for the iPad or IOS devices. See link to it below. http://store.apple.com/us/product/H6353ZM/A?fnode=MjA1MTEyODY Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thejazzden Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:04 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone Hello My old folding ThinkOutside Bluetooth keyboard is finally dying after much u'se. Can anyone recommend a replacement ? My only stipulation is that I feel most comfortable with as near as possible full-size keys for speed touch typing. i live in the UK. Dennis. hanks. Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From raven2046 at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 15:34:12 2011 From: raven2046 at gmail.com (Amber Harmon) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:34:12 -0600 Subject: VM help In-Reply-To: <19F4C44A-1C37-46CC-A3ED-D07405FEEA45@swbell.net> References: <5C95FD57-93DA-474D-B2DD-AFBAF8E71F9A@swbell.net> <59EEBDEC-B731-4262-8E86-43E041D1D097@gmail.com> <19F4C44A-1C37-46CC-A3ED-D07405FEEA45@swbell.net> Message-ID: you can write me at raven2046 at gmail.com On Dec 15, 2011, at 11:03 PM, michael maslo wrote: > Yes I am. What email want me to write you at? > On Dec 15, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Amber Harmon wrote: > >> Hi Mike your name sounds fimaure did you ever play a mud called miriani if so can you please get in touch with me? >> On Dec 15, 2011, at 9:39 AM, michael maslo wrote: >> >>> Hi list: >>> >>> When I set up VM fusion, I had it set up for 2 gb of memory allotted to windows plus 2 to the mac side of things. I have noticed some issues with sluggishness etc when the vm fusion is running. >>> >>> I just bough t more memory and about to get it installed. >>> >>> My question is as follows. Since my vm fusion is already set up, is there a way to reallocate memory for both sides of the system? >>> >>> IF so, can someone please let me know how? >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tmallalieu at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 15:38:06 2011 From: tmallalieu at gmail.com (Thuy) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:38:06 +0000 Subject: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dennis. If you want a folding keyboard, my recommendation would be the Freedom Universal. Unfortunately, they've replaced it with the Freedom Pro range, which I don't rate as much. You might be lucky and get hold of a Universal second hand somewhere. The main difference is that the hinge seems to be to the wrong side of the B key, which displaces it from the usual position that you would expect, whereas the Universal still keeps the correct alignment of the B N and M keys. The Freedom I-Connex keyboard is a cheaper version of the Pro with just HID protocol, but still suffers from the same key misalignment. If you don't mind that though, the feel on all these Freedom keyboards is very nice. Hope this helps? Cheers Thuy On 15/12/2011, Thejazzden wrote: > Hello > My old folding ThinkOutside Bluetooth keyboard is finally dying after much > u'se. Can anyone recommend a replacement ? My only stipulation is that I > feel most comfortable with as near as possible full-size keys for speed > touch typing. > i live in the UK. > Dennis. > hanks. > > Dennis Freedman > The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk > Sent from my iPhone > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Fri Dec 16 16:11:03 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:11:03 -0000 Subject: Ergonomic Keyboard details Message-ID: <680916.64697.qm@smtp821.mail.ird.yahoo.com> I have taken the plunge and purchased the ergonomic keyboard for the Mac. It was horrendously expensive at ?182 including shipping. I hope it will prove a good investment and last for many years. If anybody else is interested I copy bellow the info and links they sent me. enquiry. There is one split ergonomic keyboard that we do for the Mac which is the Goldtouch. The keyboard has a large locking lever which allows you to adjust the angle of split and splay. This keyboard doesn't have a numeric keypad though so would suggest a separate, standalone numeric keyboard. Here are the links to check out: http://www.adapt-it.co.uk/products/goldtouch-ergonomic-split-keyboard-for-ma c-white-usb-us-layout.asp and http://www.adapt-it.co.uk/products/numeric-keypad-usb-beige.asp From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 17:57:36 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:57:36 -0800 Subject: getting my purchased playlist back in iTunes. In-Reply-To: <4EEA4F9B.1070702@internode.on.net> References: <35145CC4-2BBC-4B0B-ABBB-4430AA19D895@gmail.com> <4EEA4F9B.1070702@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <1548EA0C-4D0D-4B63-BE01-81FC37B0E361@gmail.com> Ok. The changed the interface completely in the new iTunes update. If you hit purchased history you are taken to the tabs I mentioned. I don't care much for this new look but what do I know. lol! Thanks all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 15, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > I could be wrong here but isn't there a specification in the rules section of smart playlists that specifies whether a track has been purchased or not? If that's the case then you could make a smart playlist to bring all your purchases back. > > > > On 16/12/2011 6:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> hello. After updating to the new iTunes I noticed my purchases playlist is going. How do I get it back? I need to download something to the mac iTunes library that got deleted some how when I screwed things up. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. >> If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > skype callto:grtdane12 > MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Fri Dec 16 19:02:04 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:02:04 -0600 Subject: Latest version of Mac OS Message-ID: <74401F7FB6BA4AC2B6CFAD6A6A36F8DB@your2c061f0461> Hi, My brother is thinking of getting a Mac, and I suggested that I thought that the Mac OS can be purchased and installed on a PC. I don't know if this is still the case. Does anyone know about this? Glenn From zkline at speedpost.net Fri Dec 16 19:02:51 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:02:51 -0800 Subject: Latest version of Mac OS In-Reply-To: <74401F7FB6BA4AC2B6CFAD6A6A36F8DB@your2c061f0461> References: <74401F7FB6BA4AC2B6CFAD6A6A36F8DB@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <6F20D9BD-2B24-45F0-8436-77A7EE3A277B@speedpost.net> Hi Glen, What you're proposing is what is called a hackintosh. They're apparently difficult to get working on occasions, and of at least questionable legality. I would go for the direct route and just buy a proper APple machine. That being said, if you search the net there are guides to accomplish what you have in mind. Best, Zack. On Dec 16, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Glenn wrote: > Hi, > My brother is thinking of getting a Mac, and I suggested that I thought that > the Mac OS can be purchased and installed on a PC. > I don't know if this is still the case. > Does anyone know about this? > Glenn > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Fri Dec 16 19:08:58 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:08:58 +0000 Subject: Latest version of Mac OS In-Reply-To: <6F20D9BD-2B24-45F0-8436-77A7EE3A277B@speedpost.net> References: <74401F7FB6BA4AC2B6CFAD6A6A36F8DB@your2c061f0461> <6F20D9BD-2B24-45F0-8436-77A7EE3A277B@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <3A983152-3850-4C41-B3FF-F040B31FA262@mac-access.net> I would highly advise against this. not only is this highly illegal, it's also fraught with problems where compatibility of hardware is concerned and the behaviour of the board is concerned. Though it is possible, there is a great deal of harm that can be caused by this. I had tested this for a compliance method and ht took 2 days to do. not worth it. buy a mac mini or a macbook as a basic option. simple as that. anyway, security is the key point of apple's software hence it works only to apple hardware. I won't go into how it works because it's not worth causing someone's guide dog to start snoring as soon as he / she starts reading this email. hey we've all got our points of bordom lol. woof! lew On 16 Dec 2011, at 19:02, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Glen, > What you're proposing is what is called a hackintosh. They're apparently difficult to get working on occasions, and of at least questionable legality. I would go for the direct route and just buy a proper APple machine. That being said, if you search the net there are guides to accomplish what you have in mind. > Best, > Zack. > On Dec 16, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Glenn wrote: > >> Hi, >> My brother is thinking of getting a Mac, and I suggested that I thought that >> the Mac OS can be purchased and installed on a PC. >> I don't know if this is still the case. >> Does anyone know about this? >> Glenn >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From rattail4 at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 19:42:19 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:42:19 -0500 Subject: Latest version of Mac OS In-Reply-To: <74401F7FB6BA4AC2B6CFAD6A6A36F8DB@your2c061f0461> References: <74401F7FB6BA4AC2B6CFAD6A6A36F8DB@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <5C22E675F8474D9E9AB1D3841D454615@MQUAD> Even if you could I would not go that route. if you want a mac, go the right way and buy a mac. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn" Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 14:02 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Latest version of Mac OS > Hi, > My brother is thinking of getting a Mac, and I suggested that I thought > that > the Mac OS can be purchased and installed on a PC. > I don't know if this is still the case. > Does anyone know about this? > Glenn > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 16 19:50:22 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:50:22 +0000 Subject: Latest version of Mac OS In-Reply-To: <74401F7FB6BA4AC2B6CFAD6A6A36F8DB@your2c061f0461> References: <74401F7FB6BA4AC2B6CFAD6A6A36F8DB@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <21554E3D-128F-4353-A053-2E2A18EBDCC2@mac-access.net> Hello Glenn There's no legal installation on a PC, as far as I'm aware anyway. It probably is possible if you're able and willing to do a lot of tinkering; but it's definitely not supported by Apple and it's definitely not something we would ever try. Lynne On 16 Dec 2011, at 19:02, Glenn wrote: ? My brother is thinking of getting a Mac, and I suggested that I thought that the Mac OS can be purchased and installed on a PC. I don't know if this is still the case. Does anyone know about this? From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Fri Dec 16 19:58:16 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:58:16 +0000 Subject: Latest version of Mac OS In-Reply-To: <21554E3D-128F-4353-A053-2E2A18EBDCC2@mac-access.net> References: <74401F7FB6BA4AC2B6CFAD6A6A36F8DB@your2c061f0461> <21554E3D-128F-4353-A053-2E2A18EBDCC2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <614C6DB3-EE0E-4F3C-9FA1-48567857E8E0@mac-access.net> just in the issues of history sake, back in the early 90's when apple computer was still the old way, there were apple clones around from umax and power computing. At the time, apple was interested in supporting the product but they had to follow licensing from apple. After a long legal case, this went wrong and Steve HJobbs axed all clone support with a law suit. The way Mac OS, especially OS X works in the security aspect is, the software detects a chip installed on the logic board as well as open firmware or EFI, so OS X and the older MAC OS had a security point installed, locking the operating system to apple only systems. This is still the same today. There are some folk in this world who think that creating "Hackintosh" systems is a good thing. unfortunately, it damages the sales and production reputation of apple. hence a recent lawsuit taking action against a rather recent developer who cracked OS X and built "hackintosh systems" that way. In my honest opinion as well as fact stated by apple. this is illegal and voids warranty, support, etc to the product. Even though the hardware we use in our iMacs, Macbook Pro,s and Mac Pro's use state of the art hardware, the chipsets alone are relatively standard. I think it's best we close this subject and discourage cloning and "Hackintosh" actions from this list. As we all represent apple as users, pro users and engineers, we keep apple close to us. lew On 16 Dec 2011, at 19:50, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Glenn > > There's no legal installation on a PC, as far as I'm aware anyway. It probably is possible if you're able and willing to do a lot of tinkering; but it's definitely not supported by Apple and it's definitely not something we would ever try. > > Lynne > > > On 16 Dec 2011, at 19:02, Glenn wrote: > > ? My brother is thinking of getting a Mac, and I suggested that I thought that > the Mac OS can be purchased and installed on a PC. > I don't know if this is still the case. > Does anyone know about this? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. 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Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From godfearer at comcast.net Fri Dec 16 20:44:26 2011 From: godfearer at comcast.net (Robert Wright) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:44:26 -0700 Subject: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone References: Message-ID: <94B9481CD86741EDAB40055C9498D077@lapwright> is there something similar for the Iphone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 7:26 AM Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone > Hi, I like the Apple Bt keyboard. you can find it at the link below. > > http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC184LL/B?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY > > Also like this case for it and it will also convert to a stand for the > iPad > or IOS devices. See link to it below. > > http://store.apple.com/us/product/H6353ZM/A?fnode=MjA1MTEyODY > > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thejazzden > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:04 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone > > Hello > My old folding ThinkOutside Bluetooth keyboard is finally dying after much > u'se. Can anyone recommend a replacement ? My only stipulation is that I > feel most comfortable with as near as possible full-size keys for speed > touch typing. > i live in the UK. > Dennis. > hanks. > > Dennis Freedman > The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk > Sent from my iPhone > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Dec 16 20:47:23 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:47:23 +0000 Subject: Medication Diary Message-ID: <814A9AC5-8D58-4354-B24D-9A449A03629B@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Well, Gordon is now sort of back on his feet and he is definitely back in the land of the living. He's doing some server work; and it's lovely to see I must say. Anyway, to the point. We need to maintain a detailed medical diary for 7 days, outlining precisely what he's taking, in terms of quantity, when he's taking it, and how it's administered. I'm looking for a better solution than just a text tile, but it must be accessible and easy to pick yup. Anybody have any suggestions please, for Mac, not for iOS please at this time. Thank you in advance. Lynne] From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 20:53:05 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:53:05 -0500 Subject: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone In-Reply-To: <94B9481CD86741EDAB40055C9498D077@lapwright> References: <94B9481CD86741EDAB40055C9498D077@lapwright> Message-ID: This apple keyboard works with all IOS devices! But will work with the Mac as well! The case will convert the top of the case to a stand for any IOS device you use but it is better for the large iPad as a stand. I use it with the BT keyboard as case which it is and I use the stand part for my IPad. I use the BT keyboard with my iPhone and IPad and don't have a Mac yet! But it will work with Mac computers. HTH Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Robert Wright Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 3:44 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone is there something similar for the Iphone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 7:26 AM Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone > Hi, I like the Apple Bt keyboard. you can find it at the link below. > > http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC184LL/B?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY > > Also like this case for it and it will also convert to a stand for the > iPad > or IOS devices. See link to it below. > > http://store.apple.com/us/product/H6353ZM/A?fnode=MjA1MTEyODY > > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thejazzden > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:04 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone > > Hello > My old folding ThinkOutside Bluetooth keyboard is finally dying after much > u'se. Can anyone recommend a replacement ? My only stipulation is that I > feel most comfortable with as near as possible full-size keys for speed > touch typing. > i live in the UK. > Dennis. > hanks. > > Dennis Freedman > The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk > Sent from my iPhone > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Dec 16 21:00:54 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:00:54 -0500 Subject: How to see Multiple recipients in mail? Message-ID: Listers, I'm using Lion and in the new mail view. When I get a message that is sent to me that has multiple recipients I interact with headers but only see one recipient. after that it says something like three more. How do I see the rest of the recipients? Tips greatly appreciated. Eric Caron From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 21:36:16 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:36:16 -0800 Subject: How to see Multiple recipients in mail? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B411A53-6872-41FA-BE62-5F6E7F8B6491@gmail.com> What happens if you click on the 3 more? I've wondered the same thing. thanks. On Dec 16, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Listers, > > I'm using Lion and in the new mail view. When I get a message that is sent to me that has multiple recipients I interact with headers but only see one recipient. after that it says something like three more. How do I see the rest of the recipients? > > Tips greatly appreciated. > > > Eric Caron > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 21:36:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:36:56 -0800 Subject: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone In-Reply-To: <94B9481CD86741EDAB40055C9498D077@lapwright> References: <94B9481CD86741EDAB40055C9498D077@lapwright> Message-ID: <385F32FA-0077-4639-A3E6-F4E0A3344380@gmail.com> The same keyboard will work on the iphone. I used it until I sat on it 1 too many times. but it did work and do its job. On Dec 16, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Robert Wright wrote: > is there something similar for the Iphone > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" > To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 7:26 AM > Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone > > >> Hi, I like the Apple Bt keyboard. you can find it at the link below. >> >> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC184LL/B?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY >> >> Also like this case for it and it will also convert to a stand for the iPad >> or IOS devices. See link to it below. >> >> http://store.apple.com/us/product/H6353ZM/A?fnode=MjA1MTEyODY >> >> >> >> Sign, >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thejazzden >> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:04 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Bluetooth keyboard for my IPhone >> >> Hello >> My old folding ThinkOutside Bluetooth keyboard is finally dying after much >> u'se. Can anyone recommend a replacement ? My only stipulation is that I >> feel most comfortable with as near as possible full-size keys for speed >> touch typing. >> i live in the UK. >> Dennis. >> hanks. >> >> Dennis Freedman >> The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Dec 16 21:59:53 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:59:53 -0500 Subject: How to see Multiple recipients in mail? In-Reply-To: <7B411A53-6872-41FA-BE62-5F6E7F8B6491@gmail.com> References: <7B411A53-6872-41FA-BE62-5F6E7F8B6491@gmail.com> Message-ID: <713AD825-65C2-4BDD-9A22-B428983A4C09@Mac-Access.net> Hi Sarah, I have had no luck clicking or pressing a menu or anything on the part that says there are more recipients. Hopefully someone will know how to use this part of the Headers or to expand the Headers. Eric Caron On Dec 16, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > What happens if you click on the 3 more? I've wondered the same thing. > > thanks. > On Dec 16, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Listers, >> >> I'm using Lion and in the new mail view. When I get a message that is sent to me that has multiple recipients I interact with headers but only see one recipient. after that it says something like three more. How do I see the rest of the recipients? >> >> Tips greatly appreciated. >> >> >> Eric Caron >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Fri Dec 16 22:13:48 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:13:48 -0000 Subject: How to see Multiple recipients in mail? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <37335.35163.qm@smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I had the same problem last week with a group email. Basically I cheated the system by forwarding the email and I was then able to read all the recipients in the actual email. I then closed the email. Clunky but it worked... If anybody knows how to see more recipients in a more elegant way I would also be interested in seeing this. David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron Sent: 16 December 2011 21:01 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: How to see Multiple recipients in mail? Listers, I'm using Lion and in the new mail view. When I get a message that is sent to me that has multiple recipients I interact with headers but only see one recipient. after that it says something like three more. How do I see the rest of the recipients? Tips greatly appreciated. Eric Caron <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From opensesame at me.com Fri Dec 16 22:36:49 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:36:49 -0500 Subject: How to see Multiple recipients in mail? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think this is one of those cases where the standard "VO+Spacebar" does not work to activate the link. I noticed this recently and have used the mouse-click substitute successfully as noted in the steps below. Note that I still find the headers to be somewhat less than optimally navigable with VO. Also note that this is under Lion 10.7.2 and YMMV. 1. Press VO+Shift+Down arrow to Interact with headers. 2. Press VO+Shift+Down Arrow to interact with text within the headers. 3. Navigate to the end of the "To" field where you should find a link labeled "more." 4. Press VO+Command+F5 to bring the mouse pointer to the VO cursor. 5. Press VO+Shift+Spacebar twice to activate the more link and expand the full list of addressees. HTH, Bryan On Dec 16, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > I'm using Lion and in the new mail view. When I get a message that is sent to me that has multiple recipients I interact with headers but only see one recipient. after that it says something like three more. How do I see the rest of the From cfgolding at comcast.net Fri Dec 16 22:49:14 2011 From: cfgolding at comcast.net (Catherine Golding) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:49:14 -0800 Subject: Pass words Message-ID: <011301ccbc44$ef9466a0$cebd33e0$@net> I've lost my pass word to install an application. How do I find it? From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 00:59:36 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:59:36 -0600 Subject: 511 Mobile website and third-party apps Message-ID: Has anyone used 511 Mobile website on iPhone? m.511.org What about third-party apps? http://511.org/apps-3rd-party-apps.asp How is VoiceOver accessibility? Thanks, Kevin From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 02:28:13 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:28:13 -0800 Subject: Pass words In-Reply-To: <011301ccbc44$ef9466a0$cebd33e0$@net> References: <011301ccbc44$ef9466a0$cebd33e0$@net> Message-ID: It is your authentacation password you use every time you make a change to your system. Take care On Dec 16, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Catherine Golding wrote: > I've lost my pass word to install an application. How do I find it? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 02:29:00 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:29:00 -0800 Subject: How to see Multiple recipients in mail? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1CF329B1-0845-48AE-87A2-B1ECF5A92165@gmail.com> That should work, except when I do it for me it just says begin forwarded message. with out the other people. On Dec 16, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > I think this is one of those cases where the standard "VO+Spacebar" does not work to activate the link. I noticed this recently and have used the mouse-click substitute successfully as noted in the steps below. Note that I still find the headers to be somewhat less than optimally navigable with VO. Also note that this is under Lion 10.7.2 and YMMV. > > 1. Press VO+Shift+Down arrow to Interact with headers. > 2. Press VO+Shift+Down Arrow to interact with text within the headers. > 3. Navigate to the end of the "To" field where you should find a link labeled "more." > 4. Press VO+Command+F5 to bring the mouse pointer to the VO cursor. > 5. Press VO+Shift+Spacebar twice to activate the more link and expand the full list of addressees. > > HTH, > Bryan > > On Dec 16, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> I'm using Lion and in the new mail view. When I get a message that is sent to me that has multiple recipients I interact with headers but only see one recipient. after that it says something like three more. How do I see the rest of the > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 02:29:34 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:29:34 -0800 Subject: How to see Multiple recipients in mail? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80DF887A-E42A-40F7-8B06-A25F51FA4E8A@gmail.com> Interest fix. I'll try it out when I get an other email like that. On Dec 16, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > I think this is one of those cases where the standard "VO+Spacebar" does not work to activate the link. I noticed this recently and have used the mouse-click substitute successfully as noted in the steps below. Note that I still find the headers to be somewhat less than optimally navigable with VO. Also note that this is under Lion 10.7.2 and YMMV. > > 1. Press VO+Shift+Down arrow to Interact with headers. > 2. Press VO+Shift+Down Arrow to interact with text within the headers. > 3. Navigate to the end of the "To" field where you should find a link labeled "more." > 4. Press VO+Command+F5 to bring the mouse pointer to the VO cursor. > 5. Press VO+Shift+Spacebar twice to activate the more link and expand the full list of addressees. > > HTH, > Bryan > > On Dec 16, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> I'm using Lion and in the new mail view. When I get a message that is sent to me that has multiple recipients I interact with headers but only see one recipient. after that it says something like three more. How do I see the rest of the > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cfgolding at comcast.net Sat Dec 17 03:22:28 2011 From: cfgolding at comcast.net (Catherine Golding) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:22:28 -0800 Subject: Pass words Message-ID: <000901ccbc6b$1b847590$528d60b0$@net> I understand that the pass word I want is the authentication pass word, but I've forgotten it. How do I either retrieve it, or reset it? Catherine G From a.beech at bigpond.net.au Sat Dec 17 02:09:35 2011 From: a.beech at bigpond.net.au (Adrian Beech) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:09:35 +1000 Subject: ABC iView app for iPad In-Reply-To: References: <4EE9E2B2.9050101@gmail.com><4EE9E610.8010009@internode.on.net> <4EE9EC5C.1090103@gmail.com><4EE9EC1E.7050904@internode.on.net> <002401ccbbc0$51b0d4c0$f5127e40$@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <001101ccbc60$edddf350$c999d9f0$@bigpond.net.au> Hi, It's an app which handles the streaming of selected TV content from the ABC. One nice thing about the app version, from what I've been told, is that it is more accessible than it's web (flash) based cousin. Cheers. AB -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2011 12:09 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: ABC iView app for iPad What is it? Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Beech" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:59 AM Subject: RE: ABC iView app for iPad G'day Dane and others, Poking around the app store using iTunes it Looks like there is only the iPad version, darn and blast. Hmmmmmmm, there could be technical reasons for this though. BTW, it may be worthwhile sending an e-mail to iview at your.abc.net.au to ask about a version for the iPhone, iPod, etc. You never know if enough people request an alternative platform version with an explanation as to how useful the app would be to V O users it may become reality. Dane, are you able to comment on how the app performs on the iPad, i.e. smoothness, buffering of content, bandwidth usage? Ciao. AB -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dane trethowan Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:46 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: ABC iView app for iPad I read about the ABC iView app in today's Age green Guide and they said there that an app for iPad was avaialble but you never know, they may have their facts wrong . On 15/12/2011 11:47 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: > HI. thanks. will do. > > Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia > > God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to > say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" > twitter bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com dj on > www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk > > > On 15/12/2011 11:20 PM, Dane trethowan wrote: >> I don't believe it is and the reason is screen size, try doing a >> search for it in Itunes and you'll soon see if its available. >> >> >> >> On 15/12/2011 11:06 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: >>> HI dane. is this app available for the iphone? >>> >>> >>> Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia >>> >>> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just >>> to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" >>> twitter bubbygirl >>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>> msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com dj on >>> www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk >>> >>> >>> On 15/12/2011 6:37 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> Howdy Folks! >>>> >>>> So for those in Australia who wish to access the "ABC iView" site >>>> your chance seems to have come at long last with the launch of the >>>> ABC iView app. >>>> >>>> Before the app came along the ABC iView web site was a pain in the >>>> behind to use given the extensive use of the Flash player. >>>> >>>> IOS devices don't use Flash thank Goodness. >>>> >>>> I downloaded the ABC iView app a little while ago and installed it >>>> onto my iPad, O took a look at the app and was very pleased with >>>> what I found the app offered the iView viewer. >>>> >>>> I've only played with the iView app for a few minutes and there are >>>> sections I haven't looked around in yet but I can tell you that its >>>> a snap! to select the TV programme you wish to view and have the >>>> iView app load and play it for you. >>>> >>>> A nice touch is the ability to use "Airplay" to stream the iView >>>> programme to something like an Apple TV which may have a TV >>>> connected to it thus you can view the programme on a device with a >>>> larger screen than what your iPad may have. >>>> >>>> A job well done ABC and I can only hope that your iView web site >>>> becomes more accessible in the future. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6716 (20111216) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From moriond at mac.com Sat Dec 17 04:29:24 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:29:24 -1000 Subject: Pass words In-Reply-To: <000901ccbc6b$1b847590$528d60b0$@net> References: <000901ccbc6b$1b847590$528d60b0$@net> Message-ID: <5C927485-5382-4772-8DC5-05C74BDB76EA@mac.com> Hello Catherine, You need to identify whether you are running Lion or Snow Leopard. I don't think it's possible to retrieve an Admin password if you've forgotten it, but you can reset it. For systems up through Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) you can do this if you have the install discs. I summarize an article that describes how to do this using the Lion Recovery partition, but I'm not running Lion myself, so I can't test this. 1. Shut down your Mac and turn it back on while simultaneously holding down the Command and "r" keys to boot into the recovery partition. 2. From the menu bar (accessed with VO+m or Control+F2), navigate to the "Utilities" menu and arrow down to select "Terminal", then press return. 3. In the Terminal window, type "resetpassword" (one word without the quotation marks) and press "Return". 4. Use the Reset Password utility to select your hard drive, choose you user account, and enter a new password. Someone who actually has Lion running can probably check this out for you. Write back if you're using Snow Leopard and have access to your install discs -- there's more experience with this. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 16, 2011, at 17:22, Catherine Golding wrote: > I understand that the pass word I want is the authentication pass word, but > I've forgotten it. How do I either retrieve it, or reset it? > > > > Catherine G > > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 10:29:40 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:29:40 +0000 Subject: premium voice again ios five Message-ID: hi all i have my iphone 4 running 5.01 wifi on and connected to mains, yet even with my default language of english andcompact voice off, nothing changing? will From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Dec 17 11:26:23 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:26:23 +0000 Subject: premium voice again ios five In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Will, I could be wrong about this, but I think you need to be plugged directly to the Mac with your USB cable, as the download comes from iTunes. I do not think that the Wi-Fi sync capabilities of IOS 5+ do not extend to the downloading of content that is not already in your iTunes Library. On 17 Dec 2011, at 10:29, william lomas wrote: > hi all i have my iphone 4 running 5.01 wifi on and connected to mains, yet even with my default language of english andcompact voice off, nothing changing? > will > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 11:28:13 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:28:13 +0000 Subject: premium voice again ios five In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29A4EEA9-BD74-4171-948C-23D6CDDBCBCB@gmail.com> oh i thought had plug in to mains not the computer On Dec 17, 2011, at 11:26 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Will, > > I could be wrong about this, but I think you need to be plugged directly to the Mac with your USB cable, as the download comes from iTunes. I do not think that the Wi-Fi sync capabilities of IOS 5+ do not extend to the downloading of content that is not already in your iTunes Library. > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 10:29, william lomas wrote: > >> hi all i have my iphone 4 running 5.01 wifi on and connected to mains, yet even with my default language of english andcompact voice off, nothing changing? >> will >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Dec 17 11:30:24 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:30:24 +0000 Subject: premium voice again ios five In-Reply-To: <29A4EEA9-BD74-4171-948C-23D6CDDBCBCB@gmail.com> References: <29A4EEA9-BD74-4171-948C-23D6CDDBCBCB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <343FBA8C-962C-425A-AFD1-4F6F008F3D1C@mac-access.net> I think the Wi-Fi sync only syncs content that is already in your Library. On 17 Dec 2011, at 11:28, william lomas wrote: > oh i thought had plug in to mains not the computer > > On Dec 17, 2011, at 11:26 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Will, >> >> I could be wrong about this, but I think you need to be plugged directly to the Mac with your USB cable, as the download comes from iTunes. I do not think that the Wi-Fi sync capabilities of IOS 5+ do not extend to the downloading of content that is not already in your iTunes Library. >> >> On 17 Dec 2011, at 10:29, william lomas wrote: >> >>> hi all i have my iphone 4 running 5.01 wifi on and connected to mains, yet even with my default language of english andcompact voice off, nothing changing? >>> will >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sat Dec 17 12:19:10 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:19:10 +0000 Subject: premium voice again ios five In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <418472D5-BCF9-40AD-947E-FABB049D0427@googlemail.com> hi i've managed to get apps with out connecting my iphone to itunes since having i o s five. ho by the way all i've now got an iphone fours and i love it to bits. Ian McNamara From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 13:10:28 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:10:28 +0000 Subject: premium voice again ios five In-Reply-To: <343FBA8C-962C-425A-AFD1-4F6F008F3D1C@mac-access.net> References: <29A4EEA9-BD74-4171-948C-23D6CDDBCBCB@gmail.com> <343FBA8C-962C-425A-AFD1-4F6F008F3D1C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8516673B-636E-43E7-B43F-6649028FF6CA@gmail.com> do i need wifi on as well at the moment nothing happening On Dec 17, 2011, at 11:30 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > I think the Wi-Fi sync only syncs content that is already in your Library. > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 11:28, william lomas wrote: > >> oh i thought had plug in to mains not the computer >> >> On Dec 17, 2011, at 11:26 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Will, >>> >>> I could be wrong about this, but I think you need to be plugged directly to the Mac with your USB cable, as the download comes from iTunes. I do not think that the Wi-Fi sync capabilities of IOS 5+ do not extend to the downloading of content that is not already in your iTunes Library. >>> >>> On 17 Dec 2011, at 10:29, william lomas wrote: >>> >>>> hi all i have my iphone 4 running 5.01 wifi on and connected to mains, yet even with my default language of english andcompact voice off, nothing changing? >>>> will >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com Sat Dec 17 14:14:43 2011 From: Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com (Frank Ventura) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 09:14:43 -0500 Subject: Using a hovercam t5 with a mac Message-ID: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB990AFA@mail.mail.breezes.local> Hi does anyone know if there is a Macintosh compatible driver for a hovercam t5 to allow it work with image capture on the mac? If not what devices do work with image capture? Sincerely, Frank M. Ventura Email: frank.m.ventura at gmail.com IMessage: frankmventura at mac.com VoiceMail: (781) 492/4262 From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 18:17:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:17:18 -0800 Subject: premium voice again ios five In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <030E335E-3944-4911-92A1-A89CDC71E418@gmail.com> You also need to plug it in to power like the computer or the wall. Take care. On Dec 17, 2011, at 2:29 AM, william lomas wrote: > hi all i have my iphone 4 running 5.01 wifi on and connected to mains, yet even with my default language of english andcompact voice off, nothing changing? > will > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 18:18:45 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:18:45 +0000 Subject: premium voice again ios five In-Reply-To: <030E335E-3944-4911-92A1-A89CDC71E418@gmail.com> References: <030E335E-3944-4911-92A1-A89CDC71E418@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F3A3302-A94C-40C2-956D-779457B72CAD@gmail.com> i do but nothing happening On Dec 17, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You also need to plug it in to power like the computer or the wall. > > Take care. > On Dec 17, 2011, at 2:29 AM, william lomas wrote: > >> hi all i have my iphone 4 running 5.01 wifi on and connected to mains, yet even with my default language of english andcompact voice off, nothing changing? >> will >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 19:02:04 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:02:04 -0800 Subject: premium voice again ios five In-Reply-To: <4F3A3302-A94C-40C2-956D-779457B72CAD@gmail.com> References: <030E335E-3944-4911-92A1-A89CDC71E418@gmail.com> <4F3A3302-A94C-40C2-956D-779457B72CAD@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ok. leave it plugged in the computer. I get mine all the time that way, when I decide to use it lol! I have compact voice on as it is better for me. lol! it moght take from a few minutes to an hour depending on how big the voice is. It is 300 mb at least. On Dec 17, 2011, at 10:18 AM, william lomas wrote: > i do but nothing happening > > On Dec 17, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> You also need to plug it in to power like the computer or the wall. >> >> Take care. >> On Dec 17, 2011, at 2:29 AM, william lomas wrote: >> >>> hi all i have my iphone 4 running 5.01 wifi on and connected to mains, yet even with my default language of english andcompact voice off, nothing changing? >>> will >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Sat Dec 17 19:39:14 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon, Lynne & Tracy) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:39:14 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: Hello everybody It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: Paula Hobley to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS and Mac OS discussion forum. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help you. Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog Lynne From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sat Dec 17 19:41:55 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:41:55 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22C61C61-D226-4E41-89C7-6D8BCA20D7CD@mac-access.net> Hi Pula, welcome to our inner sanctum. tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts. pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help. all the best and a merry christmas. lew On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: > Hello everybody > > It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: > Paula Hobley > to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. > > In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. > > Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS and Mac OS discussion forum. > > If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help you. > > Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. > > Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. > > If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: > http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Dec 17 20:50:59 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 20:50:59 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EED00B3.9000100@techno-chat.net> Welcome to the list! On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: > Hello everybody > > It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: > Paula Hobley > to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. > > In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. > > Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS and Mac OS discussion forum. > > If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help you. > > Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. > > Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. > > If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: > http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From opensesame at me.com Sat Dec 17 21:20:46 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:20:46 -0500 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder Message-ID: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> Hi Folks, I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side and the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on my iphone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos. . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One face, large face, face centered." I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. Cheers, Bryan From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sat Dec 17 21:38:43 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:38:43 +1100 Subject: New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: <22C61C61-D226-4E41-89C7-6D8BCA20D7CD@mac-access.net> References: <22C61C61-D226-4E41-89C7-6D8BCA20D7CD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lew Hahaha :) thank you, rtea,coffee, chocolates and biscuits are always welcome. Rest assured, I will have many daft Mac questions. You have a lovely Xmas too. Take care Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:42 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: New Member Welcome Hi Pula, welcome to our inner sanctum. tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts. pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help. all the best and a merry christmas. lew On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: > Hello everybody > > It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: > Paula Hobley > to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. > > In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. > > Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS and Mac OS discussion forum. > > If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help you. > > Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. > > Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. > > If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: > http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sat Dec 17 21:42:53 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:42:53 +1100 Subject: Collins Thesaurus of the English Language inaccessible app In-Reply-To: <4EED00B3.9000100@techno-chat.net> References: <4EED00B3.9000100@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <5D49B7436A184C78B604680B77E5EEDB@PaulaPC> Hi there I just thought I would let you all know that the application "Collins Thesaurus of the English Language" is not accessible. I thought one of you might like to post this on the apple-vis directory of accessible applications. I don't know how to do this. Thanks Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: New Member Welcome Welcome to the list! On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: > Hello everybody > > It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: > Paula Hobley > to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. > > In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. > > Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS and Mac OS discussion forum. > > If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help you. > > Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. > > Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. > > If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: > http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sat Dec 17 21:46:25 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 21:46:25 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: References: <22C61C61-D226-4E41-89C7-6D8BCA20D7CD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <470F5BD1-A419-4520-8DAE-29759BDE4620@mac-access.net> lol cheers paula. it's going to be a busy one to be honest. the charity doesn't rest for a minute with me. as well as some IT work to do. christmas shopping just done, some christmas presents to pick up though. haven't decided what to treat myself to yet. lew On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:38, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi Lew > > Hahaha :) thank you, rtea,coffee, chocolates and biscuits are always > welcome. Rest assured, I will have many daft Mac questions. You have a > lovely Xmas too. > > Take care > > Paula > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander > Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:42 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: New Member Welcome > > Hi Pula, > > welcome to our inner sanctum. > > tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh > selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts. > > pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they > are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help. > > all the best and a merry christmas. > > lew > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum > that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping > with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >> Paula Hobley >> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing > globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, > friendly and worthwhile place to be. >> >> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of > skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers > with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have > a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen > enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and > constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there > will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in > other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >> >> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of > virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the > configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the > virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any > other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The > exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the > virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this > clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's > Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS > and Mac OS discussion forum. >> >> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact > either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or > one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, > or Donal FitzPatrick., > and we will be happy to help you. >> >> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your > membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >> >> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all > Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac > publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >> >> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a > listing of the books available please visit: >> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR > FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to > help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sat Dec 17 21:50:07 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:50:07 +1100 Subject: Xmas treats In-Reply-To: <470F5BD1-A419-4520-8DAE-29759BDE4620@mac-access.net> References: <22C61C61-D226-4E41-89C7-6D8BCA20D7CD@mac-access.net> <470F5BD1-A419-4520-8DAE-29759BDE4620@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9D6ADA2B9ECE45C9BA08DA6127C61D9A@PaulaPC> Something fun from the app store could be a good Xmas treat I think, or something self-endulgent. :) Enjoy whatever you treat yourself too. Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 8:46 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: New Member Welcome lol cheers paula. it's going to be a busy one to be honest. the charity doesn't rest for a minute with me. as well as some IT work to do. christmas shopping just done, some christmas presents to pick up though. haven't decided what to treat myself to yet. lew On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:38, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi Lew > > Hahaha :) thank you, rtea,coffee, chocolates and biscuits are always > welcome. Rest assured, I will have many daft Mac questions. You have a > lovely Xmas too. > > Take care > > Paula > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander > Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:42 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: New Member Welcome > > Hi Pula, > > welcome to our inner sanctum. > > tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh > selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts. > > pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they > are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help. > > all the best and a merry christmas. > > lew > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum > that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping > with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >> Paula Hobley >> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing > globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, > friendly and worthwhile place to be. >> >> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of > skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers > with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have > a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen > enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and > constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there > will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in > other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >> >> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of > virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the > configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the > virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any > other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The > exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the > virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this > clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's > Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS > and Mac OS discussion forum. >> >> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact > either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or > one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, > or Donal FitzPatrick., > and we will be happy to help you. >> >> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your > membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >> >> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all > Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac > publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >> >> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a > listing of the books available please visit: >> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR > FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to > help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 21:53:22 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:53:22 -0800 Subject: Collins Thesaurus of the English Language inaccessible app In-Reply-To: <5D49B7436A184C78B604680B77E5EEDB@PaulaPC> References: <4EED00B3.9000100@techno-chat.net> <5D49B7436A184C78B604680B77E5EEDB@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <14AE1186-F7DB-4EAE-A27F-DB22D267B405@gmail.com> All you need to do is create an account and then post a app review following the prompts. Take care. On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi there > I just thought I would let you all know that the application "Collins > Thesaurus of the English Language" is not accessible. I thought one of you > might like to post this on the apple-vis directory of accessible > applications. I don't know how to do this. > > Thanks > > Paula > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth > Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: New Member Welcome > > Welcome to the list! > > On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: >> Hello everybody >> >> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum > that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping > with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >> Paula Hobley >> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing > globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, > friendly and worthwhile place to be. >> >> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of > skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers > with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have > a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen > enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and > constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there > will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in > other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >> >> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of > virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the > configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the > virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any > other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The > exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the > virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this > clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's > Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS > and Mac OS discussion forum. >> >> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact > either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or > one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne > Robertson, or Donal > FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help > you. >> >> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your > membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >> >> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all > Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac > publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >> >> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a > listing of the books available please visit: >> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 21:55:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:55:08 -0800 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder In-Reply-To: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> Message-ID: <026440F3-9A48-44D4-84E3-D291FEB68A42@gmail.com> lol. I can hardly get that to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing and I hope it improves with time. On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. > > I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side and the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos. > > . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One face, large face, face centered." > > I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. > > Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. > > I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Dec 17 22:15:33 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:15:33 +0000 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder In-Reply-To: <026440F3-9A48-44D4-84E3-D291FEB68A42@gmail.com> References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> <026440F3-9A48-44D4-84E3-D291FEB68A42@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EED1485.8070808@techno-chat.net> I can't get it to work either. It says autofocus but that's about it. On 17/12/2011 21:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: > lol. I can hardly get that to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing and I hope it improves with time. > On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. >> >> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side and the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos. >> >> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One face, large face, face centered." >> >> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. >> >> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. >> >> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. >> >> Cheers, >> Bryan >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Dec 17 22:16:25 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:16:25 +0000 Subject: Xmas treats In-Reply-To: <9D6ADA2B9ECE45C9BA08DA6127C61D9A@PaulaPC> References: <22C61C61-D226-4E41-89C7-6D8BCA20D7CD@mac-access.net> <470F5BD1-A419-4520-8DAE-29759BDE4620@mac-access.net> <9D6ADA2B9ECE45C9BA08DA6127C61D9A@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <4EED14B9.8090008@techno-chat.net> Papa Sangre will be my treat either from my own credit or from someone's ID whose app has been bought already. On 17/12/2011 21:50, Paula Hobley wrote: > Something fun from the app store could be a good Xmas treat I think, or > something self-endulgent. :) > > Enjoy whatever you treat yourself too. > > Paula > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander > Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 8:46 AM > To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: New Member Welcome > > lol cheers paula. > > it's going to be a busy one to be honest. the charity doesn't rest for a > minute with me. as well as some IT work to do. > > christmas shopping just done, some christmas presents to pick up though. > haven't decided what to treat myself to yet. > > lew > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:38, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Hi Lew >> >> Hahaha :) thank you, rtea,coffee, chocolates and biscuits are always >> welcome. Rest assured, I will have many daft Mac questions. You have a >> lovely Xmas too. >> >> Take care >> >> Paula >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander >> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:42 AM >> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome >> >> Hi Pula, >> >> welcome to our inner sanctum. >> >> tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh >> selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts. >> >> pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they >> are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help. >> >> all the best and a merry christmas. >> >> lew >> >> On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne& Tracy wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email > forum >> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping >> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >>> Paula Hobley >>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing >> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, >> friendly and worthwhile place to be. >>> >>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of >> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers >> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but > have >> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen >> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and >> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there >> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in >> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >>> >>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of >> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the >> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of > the >> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any >> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The >> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the >> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope > this >> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's >> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS >> and Mac OS discussion forum. >>> >>> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact >> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, > or >> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, >> or Donal FitzPatrick., > >> and we will be happy to help you. >>> >>> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your >> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >>> >>> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all >> Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your > Mac >> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >>> >>> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a >> listing of the books available please visit: >>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting >> the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working >> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR >> FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or > a >> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to >> help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR > FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to > help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Dec 17 22:17:23 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:17:23 +0000 Subject: Collins Thesaurus of the English Language inaccessible app In-Reply-To: <5D49B7436A184C78B604680B77E5EEDB@PaulaPC> References: <4EED00B3.9000100@techno-chat.net> <5D49B7436A184C78B604680B77E5EEDB@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <4EED14F3.1030800@techno-chat.net> Go to www.applevis.com and follow the instructions. You should create an account before doing so but if you skip this you can post as an unregistered member and the moderators will approve the review before it gets posted publicly. On 17/12/2011 21:42, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi there > I just thought I would let you all know that the application "Collins > Thesaurus of the English Language" is not accessible. I thought one of you > might like to post this on the apple-vis directory of accessible > applications. I don't know how to do this. > > Thanks > > Paula > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth > Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM > To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: New Member Welcome > > Welcome to the list! > > On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne& Tracy wrote: >> Hello everybody >> >> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum > that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping > with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >> Paula Hobley >> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing > globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, > friendly and worthwhile place to be. >> >> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of > skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers > with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have > a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen > enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and > constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there > will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in > other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >> >> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of > virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the > configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the > virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any > other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The > exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the > virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this > clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's > Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS > and Mac OS discussion forum. >> >> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact > either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or > one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne > Robertson, or Donal > FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help > you. >> >> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your > membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >> >> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all > Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac > publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >> >> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a > listing of the books available please visit: >> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sat Dec 17 22:37:35 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:37:35 -0600 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> <026440F3-9A48-44D4-84E3-D291FEB68A42@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2BACFBA47B4F476297BFFDCA9D8F00ED@your2c061f0461> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it just as Bryan did. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder lol. I can hardly get that to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing and I hope it improves with time. On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall > knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely > by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. > > I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side and > the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera > at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app > on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and > back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing > lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one > of my standard off-center photos. > > . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top > edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, > near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face > centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, > "One face, large face, face centered." > > I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I > also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. > > Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but > could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be > part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. > > I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sat Dec 17 22:39:25 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:39:25 +0000 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder In-Reply-To: <2BACFBA47B4F476297BFFDCA9D8F00ED@your2c061f0461> References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> <026440F3-9A48-44D4-84E3-D291FEB68A42@gmail.com> <2BACFBA47B4F476297BFFDCA9D8F00ED@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <93325ACA-6FBE-4508-AEA9-EDAD3B1FF92C@computing.dcu.ie> Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference in Dundee which assisted blind photography. Hasn't been released yet but some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain. On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote: > I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it > just as Bryan did. > Glenn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder > > > lol. I can hardly get that to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll > have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then > what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing > and I hope it improves with time. > On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall >> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely >> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. >> >> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side and >> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera >> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app >> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and >> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing >> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one >> of my standard off-center photos. >> >> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top >> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, >> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face >> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, >> "One face, large face, face centered." >> >> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I >> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. >> >> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but >> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be >> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. >> >> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. >> >> Cheers, >> Bryan >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sat Dec 17 22:40:12 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:40:12 +0000 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder In-Reply-To: <2BACFBA47B4F476297BFFDCA9D8F00ED@your2c061f0461> References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> <026440F3-9A48-44D4-84E3-D291FEB68A42@gmail.com> <2BACFBA47B4F476297BFFDCA9D8F00ED@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference in Dundee which assisted blind photography. Hasn't been released yet but some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain. On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote: > I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it > just as Bryan did. > Glenn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder > > > lol. I can hardly get that to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll > have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then > what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing > and I hope it improves with time. > On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall >> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely >> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. >> >> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side and >> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera >> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app >> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and >> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing >> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one >> of my standard off-center photos. >> >> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top >> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, >> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face >> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, >> "One face, large face, face centered." >> >> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I >> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. >> >> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but >> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be >> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. >> >> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. >> >> Cheers, >> Bryan >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sat Dec 17 22:43:00 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:43:00 +1100 Subject: Xmas treats In-Reply-To: <4EED14B9.8090008@techno-chat.net> References: <22C61C61-D226-4E41-89C7-6D8BCA20D7CD@mac-access.net><470F5BD1-A419-4520-8DAE-29759BDE4620@mac-access.net><9D6ADA2B9ECE45C9BA08DA6127C61D9A@PaulaPC> <4EED14B9.8090008@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <5797E696CD9347B296648D9EC07D2E92@PaulaPC> Are there any other good games for the IPhone I can find. I have Dimentions of the Universe but I can't figuire out how to play it. I think I must be a bit technologically challenged or something. Take care Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 9:16 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Xmas treats Papa Sangre will be my treat either from my own credit or from someone's ID whose app has been bought already. On 17/12/2011 21:50, Paula Hobley wrote: > Something fun from the app store could be a good Xmas treat I think, or > something self-endulgent. :) > > Enjoy whatever you treat yourself too. > > Paula > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander > Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 8:46 AM > To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: New Member Welcome > > lol cheers paula. > > it's going to be a busy one to be honest. the charity doesn't rest for a > minute with me. as well as some IT work to do. > > christmas shopping just done, some christmas presents to pick up though. > haven't decided what to treat myself to yet. > > lew > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:38, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Hi Lew >> >> Hahaha :) thank you, rtea,coffee, chocolates and biscuits are always >> welcome. Rest assured, I will have many daft Mac questions. You have a >> lovely Xmas too. >> >> Take care >> >> Paula >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander >> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:42 AM >> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome >> >> Hi Pula, >> >> welcome to our inner sanctum. >> >> tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh >> selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts. >> >> pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they >> are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help. >> >> all the best and a merry christmas. >> >> lew >> >> On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne& Tracy wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email > forum >> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping >> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >>> Paula Hobley >>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing >> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, >> friendly and worthwhile place to be. >>> >>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of >> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers >> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but > have >> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen >> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and >> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there >> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in >> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >>> >>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of >> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the >> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of > the >> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any >> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The >> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the >> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope > this >> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's >> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS >> and Mac OS discussion forum. >>> >>> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact >> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, > or >> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, >> or Donal FitzPatrick., > >> and we will be happy to help you. >>> >>> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your >> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >>> >>> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all >> Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your > Mac >> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >>> >>> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a >> listing of the books available please visit: >>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting >> the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working >> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR >> FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or > a >> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to >> help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR > FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to > help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sat Dec 17 23:14:23 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:14:23 -0600 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com><026440F3-9A48-44D4-84E3-D291FEB68A42@gmail.com><2BACFBA47B4F476297BFFDCA9D8F00ED@your2c061f0461> <93325ACA-6FBE-4508-AEA9-EDAD3B1FF92C@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <8C95BA205BCA4EC3A914FA4616FB2375@your2c061f0461> I wonder if it will lead to facial recognition, so it will say mom on left and dad on right, for example. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "D?nal Fitzpatrick" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:39 PM Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference in Dundee which assisted blind photography. Hasn't been released yet but some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain. On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote: > I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it > just as Bryan did. > Glenn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder > > > lol. I can hardly get that to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll > have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then > what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face > thing > and I hope it improves with time. > On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall >> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely >> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. >> >> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side and >> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera >> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app >> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and >> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing >> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one >> of my standard off-center photos. >> >> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top >> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, >> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face >> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, >> "One face, large face, face centered." >> >> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I >> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. >> >> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but >> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be >> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. >> >> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. >> >> Cheers, >> Bryan >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sat Dec 17 21:37:43 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:37:43 +1100 Subject: New Member Welcome and question about Pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi there Thank you for the very warm welcome. I'm a total novice when it comes to the mac, although I am learning. I just purchased a MacBook Pro 2 weeks ago. I was wondering, I have purchased pages. When I am in a pages document and bring up the inspector to get a word count of my document, I can't get rid of the inspector screen and I can't use my document. I have tried pressing escape, and I have tried closing the document and exiting and re-entering pages and don't have any joy. Does anybody know how to fix this issue? Thanks for your help. Cheers Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne & Tracy Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:39 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: New Member Welcome Hello everybody It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: Paula Hobley to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS and Mac OS discussion forum. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help you. Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog Lynne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sat Dec 17 22:43:48 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:43:48 +1100 Subject: Collins Thesaurus of the English Language inaccessible app In-Reply-To: <4EED14F3.1030800@techno-chat.net> References: <4EED00B3.9000100@techno-chat.net><5D49B7436A184C78B604680B77E5EEDB@PaulaPC> <4EED14F3.1030800@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <4197F2C16D984EE09BEEF5D3DBDAB4D1@PaulaPC> I had a go at posting something about it. I hope the information I provided is correct. It showed up in my twitter as being posted but I didn't provide a lot of info about it. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 9:17 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Collins Thesaurus of the English Language inaccessible app Go to www.applevis.com and follow the instructions. You should create an account before doing so but if you skip this you can post as an unregistered member and the moderators will approve the review before it gets posted publicly. On 17/12/2011 21:42, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi there > I just thought I would let you all know that the application "Collins > Thesaurus of the English Language" is not accessible. I thought one of you > might like to post this on the apple-vis directory of accessible > applications. I don't know how to do this. > > Thanks > > Paula > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth > Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM > To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: New Member Welcome > > Welcome to the list! > > On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne& Tracy wrote: >> Hello everybody >> >> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum > that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping > with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >> Paula Hobley >> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing > globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, > friendly and worthwhile place to be. >> >> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of > skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers > with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have > a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen > enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and > constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there > will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in > other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >> >> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of > virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the > configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the > virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any > other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The > exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the > virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this > clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's > Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS > and Mac OS discussion forum. >> >> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact > either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or > one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne > Robertson, or Donal > FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help > you. >> >> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your > membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >> >> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all > Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac > publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >> >> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a > listing of the books available please visit: >> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sat Dec 17 21:41:18 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:41:18 +1100 Subject: Discover music application In-Reply-To: <4EED00B3.9000100@techno-chat.net> References: <4EED00B3.9000100@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <34C45C20987B42EBB19D0CDCFE5E6ED3@PaulaPC> Hi there I was wondering, does anybody know if the discover music application is accessible? I love to discover new artists and this looks like a good app but don't want to pay the money if it isn't accessible seeing as Apple doesn't refund your money. Thanks for your help with this. Cheers Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: New Member Welcome Welcome to the list! On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: > Hello everybody > > It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: > Paula Hobley > to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. > > In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. > > Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS and Mac OS discussion forum. > > If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help you. > > Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. > > Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. > > If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: > http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sun Dec 18 00:37:10 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 11:37:10 +1100 Subject: accessible FTP client Message-ID: <02D236E8D211474AB6B263F0F3378871@PaulaPC> Hi there I am looking for an accessible FTP client. I have tried Yummy FTP but I find it hard to use. Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks for your help. Cheers Paula From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sun Dec 18 01:25:42 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:25:42 +0000 Subject: Discover music application In-Reply-To: <34C45C20987B42EBB19D0CDCFE5E6ED3@PaulaPC> References: <4EED00B3.9000100@techno-chat.net> <34C45C20987B42EBB19D0CDCFE5E6ED3@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <73CCFC19-3CB3-4ADB-AFD6-8639789C7AEE@virginmedia.com> Hi Paula! First welcome to the list! I do believe that you might be able to get money back! I think the procedure is to contact the dev! And ask if accessibility could be added and if they reply no or something like that then you can tell Apple and they should refund your money! hth Colin! On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:41, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi there > > I was wondering, does anybody know if the discover music application is > accessible? I love to discover new artists and this looks like a good app > but don't want to pay the money if it isn't accessible seeing as Apple > doesn't refund your money. > > Thanks for your help with this. > > Cheers > > Paula > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth > Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: New Member Welcome > > Welcome to the list! > > On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: >> Hello everybody >> >> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum > that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping > with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >> Paula Hobley >> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing > globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, > friendly and worthwhile place to be. >> >> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of > skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers > with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have > a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen > enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and > constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there > will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in > other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >> >> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of > virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the > configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the > virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any > other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The > exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the > virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this > clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's > Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS > and Mac OS discussion forum. >> >> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact > either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or > one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne > Robertson, or Donal > FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help > you. >> >> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your > membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >> >> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all > Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac > publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >> >> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a > listing of the books available please visit: >> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sun Dec 18 01:36:55 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:36:55 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome and question about Pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5CDEF3B3-57F8-40BA-AC67-A1F0617A6D9E@virginmedia.com> Hi Paula! To open and close the inspector use the command! Command+option+I And press again to close! Hth Colin On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:37, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi there > > Thank you for the very warm welcome. I'm a total novice when it comes to > the mac, although I am learning. I just purchased a MacBook Pro 2 weeks > ago. I was wondering, I have purchased pages. When I am in a pages > document and bring up the inspector to get a word count of my document, I > can't get rid of the inspector screen and I can't use my document. I have > tried pressing escape, and I have tried closing the document and exiting and > re-entering pages and don't have any joy. Does anybody know how to fix this > issue? > > Thanks for your help. > > Cheers > > Paula > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne & > Tracy > Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:39 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: New Member Welcome > > Hello everybody > > It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum > that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping > with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: > Paula Hobley > to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing > globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, > friendly and worthwhile place to be. > > In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of > skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers > with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have > a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen > enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and > constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there > will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in > other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. > > Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of > virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the > configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the > virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any > other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The > exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the > virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this > clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's > Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS > and Mac OS discussion forum. > > If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact > either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or > one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, > or Donal FitzPatrick., > and we will be happy to help you. > > Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your > membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. > > Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. > members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac > publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. > > If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a > listing of the books available please visit: > http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 1smartdog at cox.net Sun Dec 18 02:04:14 2011 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 20:04:14 -0600 Subject: accessible FTP client References: <02D236E8D211474AB6B263F0F3378871@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <0A20C3C75993416BACFF7D43C6ED86AA@karen796b6a58c> Try Transmit. Very easy to use. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Hobley" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:37 PM Subject: accessible FTP client > Hi there > > > > I am looking for an accessible FTP client. I have tried Yummy FTP but I > find it hard to use. Does anybody have any suggestions? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Cheers > > > > Paula > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sun Dec 18 03:14:56 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:14:56 +1100 Subject: New Member Welcome and question about Pages In-Reply-To: <5CDEF3B3-57F8-40BA-AC67-A1F0617A6D9E@virginmedia.com> References: <5CDEF3B3-57F8-40BA-AC67-A1F0617A6D9E@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <0F5E6792-6008-4F60-9FF6-36FDD81EC944@bigpond.com> Thanks so much for that Colin, I shall try this and see how I go. I hope you are having a good day. Cheers Paula On 18/12/2011, at 12:36 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Paula! > To open and close the inspector use the command! > Command+option+I > And press again to close! > Hth Colin > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:37, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Hi there >> >> Thank you for the very warm welcome. I'm a total novice when it comes to >> the mac, although I am learning. I just purchased a MacBook Pro 2 weeks >> ago. I was wondering, I have purchased pages. When I am in a pages >> document and bring up the inspector to get a word count of my document, I >> can't get rid of the inspector screen and I can't use my document. I have >> tried pressing escape, and I have tried closing the document and exiting and >> re-entering pages and don't have any joy. Does anybody know how to fix this >> issue? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne & >> Tracy >> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:39 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: New Member Welcome >> >> Hello everybody >> >> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum >> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping >> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >> Paula Hobley >> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing >> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, >> friendly and worthwhile place to be. >> >> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of >> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers >> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have >> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen >> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and >> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there >> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in >> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >> >> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of >> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the >> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the >> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any >> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The >> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the >> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this >> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's >> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS >> and Mac OS discussion forum. >> >> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact >> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or >> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, >> or Donal FitzPatrick., >> and we will be happy to help you. >> >> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your >> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >> >> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. >> members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac >> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >> >> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a >> listing of the books available please visit: >> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sun Dec 18 03:16:59 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:16:59 +1100 Subject: Discover music application In-Reply-To: <73CCFC19-3CB3-4ADB-AFD6-8639789C7AEE@virginmedia.com> References: <4EED00B3.9000100@techno-chat.net> <34C45C20987B42EBB19D0CDCFE5E6ED3@PaulaPC> <73CCFC19-3CB3-4ADB-AFD6-8639789C7AEE@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <88814A9B-F821-43D1-B25E-E93711E7CE90@bigpond.com> Hi there I've had a look at the support page, and I can't find a spot where I can contact the developer. This is all new to me and am still getting my head around it. Apple refunded my money for another app but told me they would not be able to do this if applications weren't accessible, but suggested I contact the developers. Thanks for your help. Take care Paula On 18/12/2011, at 12:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Paula! > First welcome to the list! > I do believe that you might be able to get money back! > I think the procedure is to contact the dev! > And ask if accessibility could be added and if they reply no or something like that then you can tell Apple and they should refund your money! > hth Colin! > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:41, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Hi there >> >> I was wondering, does anybody know if the discover music application is >> accessible? I love to discover new artists and this looks like a good app >> but don't want to pay the money if it isn't accessible seeing as Apple >> doesn't refund your money. >> >> Thanks for your help with this. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome >> >> Welcome to the list! >> >> On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum >> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping >> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >>> Paula Hobley >>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing >> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, >> friendly and worthwhile place to be. >>> >>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of >> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers >> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have >> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen >> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and >> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there >> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in >> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >>> >>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of >> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the >> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the >> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any >> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The >> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the >> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this >> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's >> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS >> and Mac OS discussion forum. >>> >>> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact >> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or >> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne >> Robertson, or Donal >> FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help >> you. >>> >>> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your >> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >>> >>> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all >> Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac >> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >>> >>> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a >> listing of the books available please visit: >>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sun Dec 18 03:18:18 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:18:18 +1100 Subject: accessible FTP client In-Reply-To: <0A20C3C75993416BACFF7D43C6ED86AA@karen796b6a58c> References: <02D236E8D211474AB6B263F0F3378871@PaulaPC> <0A20C3C75993416BACFF7D43C6ED86AA@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: <8CD7A5D7-FD0E-4F9B-B823-615411C504F2@bigpond.com> Thanks Karen I will do this. Cheers Paula On 18/12/2011, at 1:04 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > Try Transmit. Very easy to use. > > Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Hobley" > To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:37 PM > Subject: accessible FTP client > > >> Hi there >> >> >> >> I am looking for an accessible FTP client. I have tried Yummy FTP but I >> find it hard to use. Does anybody have any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Paula >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 03:20:00 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:20:00 -0800 Subject: accessible FTP client In-Reply-To: <8CD7A5D7-FD0E-4F9B-B823-615411C504F2@bigpond.com> References: <02D236E8D211474AB6B263F0F3378871@PaulaPC> <0A20C3C75993416BACFF7D43C6ED86AA@karen796b6a58c> <8CD7A5D7-FD0E-4F9B-B823-615411C504F2@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <70AF95A1-0CA3-415A-8485-EDF486C7FE3E@gmail.com> I also use transmit and it's very well worth the price. I can't wait until the next major release when ever that is. and the dev is wonderful as well. On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Paula Hobley wrote: > Thanks Karen > > I will do this. > > Cheers > > Paula > On 18/12/2011, at 1:04 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > >> Try Transmit. Very easy to use. >> >> Karen >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Hobley" >> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:37 PM >> Subject: accessible FTP client >> >> >>> Hi there >>> >>> >>> >>> I am looking for an accessible FTP client. I have tried Yummy FTP but I >>> find it hard to use. Does anybody have any suggestions? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> >>> Paula >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 03:21:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:21:15 -0800 Subject: Discover music application In-Reply-To: <88814A9B-F821-43D1-B25E-E93711E7CE90@bigpond.com> References: <4EED00B3.9000100@techno-chat.net> <34C45C20987B42EBB19D0CDCFE5E6ED3@PaulaPC> <73CCFC19-3CB3-4ADB-AFD6-8639789C7AEE@virginmedia.com> <88814A9B-F821-43D1-B25E-E93711E7CE90@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <56D896E6-3159-4122-8C52-428C3C7D4181@gmail.com> Yeah you can only ask for a refund once. and that sucks. but there ya go. Look for a contact link if you can and if not sign up for the forums if you can do that. Good luck. On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi there > > I've had a look at the support page, and I can't find a spot where I can contact the developer. This is all new to me and am still getting my head around it. Apple refunded my money for another app but told me they would not be able to do this if applications weren't accessible, but suggested I contact the developers. > > Thanks for your help. > > Take care > > Paula > > On 18/12/2011, at 12:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > >> Hi Paula! >> First welcome to the list! >> I do believe that you might be able to get money back! >> I think the procedure is to contact the dev! >> And ask if accessibility could be added and if they reply no or something like that then you can tell Apple and they should refund your money! >> hth Colin! >> >> On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:41, Paula Hobley wrote: >> >>> Hi there >>> >>> I was wondering, does anybody know if the discover music application is >>> accessible? I love to discover new artists and this looks like a good app >>> but don't want to pay the money if it isn't accessible seeing as Apple >>> doesn't refund your money. >>> >>> Thanks for your help with this. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paula >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >>> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome >>> >>> Welcome to the list! >>> >>> On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: >>>> Hello everybody >>>> >>>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum >>> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping >>> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >>>> Paula Hobley >>>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing >>> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, >>> friendly and worthwhile place to be. >>>> >>>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of >>> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers >>> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have >>> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen >>> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and >>> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there >>> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in >>> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >>>> >>>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of >>> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the >>> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the >>> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any >>> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The >>> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the >>> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this >>> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's >>> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS >>> and Mac OS discussion forum. >>>> >>>> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact >>> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or >>> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne >>> Robertson, or Donal >>> FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help >>> you. >>>> >>>> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your >>> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >>>> >>>> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all >>> Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac >>> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >>>> >>>> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a >>> listing of the books available please visit: >>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 03:22:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:22:40 -0800 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder In-Reply-To: <8C95BA205BCA4EC3A914FA4616FB2375@your2c061f0461> References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com><026440F3-9A48-44D4-84E3-D291FEB68A42@gmail.com><2BACFBA47B4F476297BFFDCA9D8F00ED@your2c061f0461> <93325ACA-6FBE-4508-AEA9-EDAD3B1FF92C@computing.dcu.ie> <8C95BA205BCA4EC3A914FA4616FB2375@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <1DF07D7C-028B-4D7F-B7A5-5E0A90D6F4DF@gmail.com> Hmm that's interesting. maybe in a few years. You never know. You just never know. On Dec 17, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Glenn wrote: > I wonder if it will lead to facial recognition, so it will say mom on left > and dad on right, for example. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D?nal Fitzpatrick" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:39 PM > Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder > > > Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference > in Dundee which assisted blind photography. Hasn't been released yet but > some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain. > On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote: > >> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it >> just as Bryan did. >> Glenn >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sarah Alawami" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM >> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder >> >> >> lol. I can hardly get that to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll >> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then >> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face >> thing >> and I hope it improves with time. >> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall >>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely >>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. >>> >>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side and >>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera >>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app >>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and >>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing >>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one >>> of my standard off-center photos. >>> >>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top >>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, >>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face >>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, >>> "One face, large face, face centered." >>> >>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I >>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. >>> >>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but >>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be >>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. >>> >>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bryan >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sun Dec 18 03:26:29 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:26:29 +1100 Subject: accessible FTP client In-Reply-To: <70AF95A1-0CA3-415A-8485-EDF486C7FE3E@gmail.com> References: <02D236E8D211474AB6B263F0F3378871@PaulaPC> <0A20C3C75993416BACFF7D43C6ED86AA@karen796b6a58c> <8CD7A5D7-FD0E-4F9B-B823-615411C504F2@bigpond.com> <70AF95A1-0CA3-415A-8485-EDF486C7FE3E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <551CF5E7-D840-4C2A-8A5C-67AC0BA2E3F3@bigpond.com> I had a look at transmit. All I want 2 be able to do is get some material off an ftp site. It's probably a little too expensive for the small amount that I need to be able to do with it. Thanks for the suggestion though. Take care Paula On 18/12/2011, at 2:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I also use transmit and it's very well worth the price. I can't wait until the next major release when ever that is. and the dev is wonderful as well. > On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Thanks Karen >> >> I will do this. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula >> On 18/12/2011, at 1:04 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: >> >>> Try Transmit. Very easy to use. >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Hobley" >>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:37 PM >>> Subject: accessible FTP client >>> >>> >>>> Hi there >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am looking for an accessible FTP client. I have tried Yummy FTP but I >>>> find it hard to use. Does anybody have any suggestions? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Paula >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sun Dec 18 03:27:40 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:27:40 +1100 Subject: Discover music application In-Reply-To: <56D896E6-3159-4122-8C52-428C3C7D4181@gmail.com> References: <4EED00B3.9000100@techno-chat.net> <34C45C20987B42EBB19D0CDCFE5E6ED3@PaulaPC> <73CCFC19-3CB3-4ADB-AFD6-8639789C7AEE@virginmedia.com> <88814A9B-F821-43D1-B25E-E93711E7CE90@bigpond.com> <56D896E6-3159-4122-8C52-428C3C7D4181@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9CCAF8EF-FFDE-4A87-A19A-E6608035D468@bigpond.com> Which forums can I sign up for? Thanks for your help. Paula On 18/12/2011, at 2:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yeah you can only ask for a refund once. and that sucks. but there ya go. > > Look for a contact link if you can and if not sign up for the forums if you can do that. > > Good luck. > On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Hi there >> >> I've had a look at the support page, and I can't find a spot where I can contact the developer. This is all new to me and am still getting my head around it. Apple refunded my money for another app but told me they would not be able to do this if applications weren't accessible, but suggested I contact the developers. >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Take care >> >> Paula >> >> On 18/12/2011, at 12:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: >> >>> Hi Paula! >>> First welcome to the list! >>> I do believe that you might be able to get money back! >>> I think the procedure is to contact the dev! >>> And ask if accessibility could be added and if they reply no or something like that then you can tell Apple and they should refund your money! >>> hth Colin! >>> >>> On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:41, Paula Hobley wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there >>>> >>>> I was wondering, does anybody know if the discover music application is >>>> accessible? I love to discover new artists and this looks like a good app >>>> but don't want to pay the money if it isn't accessible seeing as Apple >>>> doesn't refund your money. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help with this. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Paula >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >>>> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome >>>> >>>> Welcome to the list! >>>> >>>> On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote: >>>>> Hello everybody >>>>> >>>>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum >>>> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping >>>> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >>>>> Paula Hobley >>>>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing >>>> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, >>>> friendly and worthwhile place to be. >>>>> >>>>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of >>>> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers >>>> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have >>>> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen >>>> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and >>>> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there >>>> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in >>>> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >>>>> >>>>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of >>>> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the >>>> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the >>>> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any >>>> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The >>>> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the >>>> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this >>>> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's >>>> Windows applications are off topic for this group. 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I'll point you to the download link at the MacUpdate site, since the version at the Mac App store cost $23.99: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/8392/cyberduck It's also possible to just use the Terminal app, and type in command line instructions to perform FTP and SFTP operations, but you probably won't want to do that. Incidentally, an alternative accessible and free thesaurus software application for Mac OS X that you can use is Nisus Thesaurus: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nisus-thesaurus/id471448642?mt=12 This is from the developers of Nisus Writer Pro, an accessible word processor. To use this software, highlight the word that you want to look up, e.g., by holding down the Shift key when you are positioned at the start of a word and then pressing Option+right arrow to select the word. Then either use the shortcut to look up the word in Nisus Thesaurus, which is Command+<, or else navigate to the app on the menu bar with Control+F2 or VO-M, arrow right to the application menu, then arrow down and press "s" to go to the Services option. Right arrow to the Services submenu and navigate to "Look up selection in Thesaurus", which will be listed with the shortcut assignment of Command+<. Either press return to bring up the Thesaurus window for the highlighted word, or use the Command+< shortcut. You can press escape to dismiss the Thesaurus window. The shortcut or the service menu entry for "Look up selection in Thesaurus" will not show up unless you have first selected a word. This works in all the regular applications such as TextEdit, Mail, etc. Welcome to the list. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 17, 2011, at 17:26, Paula Hobley wrote: > I had a look at transmit. All I want 2 be able to do is get some material off an ftp site. It's probably a little too expensive for the small amount that I need to be able to do with it. > > Thanks for the suggestion though. > > Take care > > Paula > > On 18/12/2011, at 2:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I also use transmit and it's very well worth the price. I can't wait until the next major release when ever that is. and the dev is wonderful as well. >> On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Paula Hobley wrote: >> >>> Thanks Karen >>> >>> I will do this. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paula >>> On 18/12/2011, at 1:04 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: >>> >>>> Try Transmit. Very easy to use. >>>> >>>> Karen >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Hobley" >>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:37 PM >>>> Subject: accessible FTP client >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi there >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am looking for an accessible FTP client. I have tried Yummy FTP but I >>>>> find it hard to use. Does anybody have any suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your help. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Paula >>>>> >>>>> From cfgolding at comcast.net Sun Dec 18 04:43:29 2011 From: cfgolding at comcast.net (Catherine Golding) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 20:43:29 -0800 Subject: Text document reader Message-ID: <000f01ccbd3f$97200870$c5601950$@net> The other day I was introduced to Abbyfein, a scanner/text reader that works particularly well with a scanner, converting the scanned material to text. The scanner recommended was the Canon, but I've forgotten the exact model, but I do recall it was under $100.00. Catherine G From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sun Dec 18 04:52:31 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:52:31 +1100 Subject: Cyberduck [was Re: accessible FTP client] In-Reply-To: <5A590E1D-2D64-49D0-A030-42D100360F5A@mac.com> References: <02D236E8D211474AB6B263F0F3378871@PaulaPC> <0A20C3C75993416BACFF7D43C6ED86AA@karen796b6a58c> <8CD7A5D7-FD0E-4F9B-B823-615411C504F2@bigpond.com> <70AF95A1-0CA3-415A-8485-EDF486C7FE3E@gmail.com> <551CF5E7-D840-4C2A-8A5C-67AC0BA2E3F3@bigpond.com> <5A590E1D-2D64-49D0-A030-42D100360F5A@mac.com> Message-ID: <41151AB3-413C-43E7-B2B6-CB7917B5B482@bigpond.com> Thanks for that Esther, I will definitely check out these recommendations. I only want something really simple in terms of ftp, so this might be the go. Thanks again Paula On 18/12/2011, at 3:32 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Paula, > > I agree that Transmit is worth it, but if you want a free FTP client that is accessible, a number of people use Cyberduck. I'll point you to the download link at the MacUpdate site, since the version at the Mac App store cost $23.99: > http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/8392/cyberduck > It's also possible to just use the Terminal app, and type in command line instructions to perform FTP and SFTP operations, but you probably won't want to do that. > > Incidentally, an alternative accessible and free thesaurus software application for Mac OS X that you can use is Nisus Thesaurus: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nisus-thesaurus/id471448642?mt=12 > > This is from the developers of Nisus Writer Pro, an accessible word processor. To use this software, highlight the word that you want to look up, e.g., by holding down the Shift key when you are positioned at the start of a word and then pressing Option+right arrow to select the word. Then either use the shortcut to look up the word in Nisus Thesaurus, which is Command+<, or else navigate to the app on the menu bar with Control+F2 or VO-M, arrow right to the application menu, then arrow down and press "s" to go to the Services option. Right arrow to the Services submenu and navigate to "Look up selection in Thesaurus", which will be listed with the shortcut assignment of Command+<. Either press return to bring up the Thesaurus window for the highlighted word, or use the Command+< shortcut. You can press escape to dismiss the Thesaurus window. The shortcut or the service menu entry for "Look up selection in Thesaurus" will not show up unless you have first selected a wo > rd. This works in all the regular applications such as TextEdit, Mail, etc. > > Welcome to the list. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Dec 17, 2011, at 17:26, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> I had a look at transmit. All I want 2 be able to do is get some material off an ftp site. It's probably a little too expensive for the small amount that I need to be able to do with it. >> >> Thanks for the suggestion though. >> >> Take care >> >> Paula >> >> On 18/12/2011, at 2:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I also use transmit and it's very well worth the price. I can't wait until the next major release when ever that is. and the dev is wonderful as well. >>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Paula Hobley wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Karen >>>> >>>> I will do this. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Paula >>>> On 18/12/2011, at 1:04 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: >>>> >>>>> Try Transmit. Very easy to use. >>>>> >>>>> Karen >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Hobley" >>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:37 PM >>>>> Subject: accessible FTP client >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I am looking for an accessible FTP client. I have tried Yummy FTP but I >>>>>> find it hard to use. Does anybody have any suggestions? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your help. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Paula >>>>>> >>>>>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Sun Dec 18 05:08:43 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:08:43 -0500 Subject: Top Ten list of tools and techniques I used to successfully complete my first college semester as a blind student Message-ID: Hello All, I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone on this list who shared your school experiences with me and offered good advice on tools and techniques. Now that my semester is over, I want to give back some information about some of those tools and techniques in hopes somebody else might find them useful. I just completed my first college semester in over 20 years, my first as a blind person, and I'm proud to say I did very well in both of my classes. I've now enrolled as a full time student for the Spring 2012 semester with an estimated graduation date of June, 2013, only 29 years after I took my first college course. . I was able to perform all necessary computer-related functions using my Macbook Air and iPhone 4. Half way through the semester I installed Windows 7 in a FUsion VM just in case, but never even got around to installing NVDA because I did not encounter any accessibility roadblocks that couldn't be handled on my MBA or iPhone. Here is my "Top 10" list of tools and techniques I used this semester. 1. Pages on the Mac. This past SUmmer I took a series of Pages lessons via Skype with Anne and Archie Robertson. (For those who are new to the list, Anne is an assistant moderator here.) The lessons were informative and enjoyable, as Anne & Archie are a great team with a wealth of experience working with Apple products and accessibility tools and techniques. During the semester I wrote several dozen essays, most of them in Pages, and never once had a problem creating a document that met the requirements of my professors. My university is standardized almost exclusively on Windows, MS Office, and Outlook, yet I never had a problem opening any Office documents in Preview, TextEdit or Pages and was easily able to use Outlook Web Access via Safari on my Macbook Air to send & receive emails and attachments. 2. The "ABBYY FineReader Express" Mac App. I used ABBYY extensively this semester. One of my textbooks was only available in print, but I was able to scan important chunks of the book using the flatbed scanner on my HP PhotoSmart C6100 MFP attached via USB to my Macbook Air. I scanned using Vuescan and then let ABBYY do the OCR into an RTF file. I also used ABYY to OCR graphic PDF files such as those output from OSX's "save to PDF" print function as noted below in the section where I talk about textbooks. And of course, I received a number of incorrectly created PDF files for such things as class syllabi and tuition invoices, all of which ABBYY handled quite nicely. 3. The "Flashcards++" IOS App. I made extensive use of the excellent and fully VO-accessible IOS App named "Flashcards++." I posted a review of the app on applevis if you're interested, but I'll just add here that this app blows me away every time I use it. The simplicity of the interface hides a tremendous wealth of options. There are numerous ways to import cards you've created, such as via a simple CSV created in TextEdit, or via the major flashcard sites such as quizlet.com. You can also create the cards manually right on the device and can edit any of the cards you've imported or created. Once you've created your cards, you have access to a vast number of ways to display the cards, and the built-in logic really worked well to focus on the cards I was having difficulty learning. While the app is great for general purpose learning, it was actually developed by a student of languages and includes tools to handle many languages. You can select a different language for the front and back of each card and, if you don't want to rotor between VO voices to hear correct pronunciation, a button is provided to speak the words via a TTS engine hosted somewhere on the Internet. 4. The "Speak It" IOS App. This App was recommended by Esther, and I used it more and more as the semester progressed. Essentially, speak It will read a block of text pasted into the App, and, unlike VO, will continue to read it aloud even when the iPhone has been locked. I would often cut and paste chapters from an OCR'd textbook into Speak It, lock the iPhone screen, stick the phone in my pocket, and listen to the information over and over again as I went about other tasks. 5. The "ClearRecord" IOS App. I used this App on my iPhone to record every lecture this semester. It somehow manages to do a good job of blocking out some of the extraneous classroom noises while capturing the important stuff. One shortcoming of this App is it's weak playback controls and options. I worked around this issue by using iTunes on the Mac to tag the recordings as audiobooks for playback via other Apps. 6. 11 inch Macbook Air. Most days I walk several miles to and from classes and the 2.5 pound weight of my MBA is a blessing on my skinny frame, especially on those days when I'm also packing an umbrella, water bottle, towel, dog kibble, etc. My MBA has the i7 CPU and was able to handle everything I threw at it. Sometimes the fan would kick on during an extended OCR process, but that was the extent of the complaining I heard coming from the Air. 7. iPHone 4 on the AT&T network. I've said it before: I consider this iPHone to be almost as helpful as my guide dog in terms of my independence and safety. While I used several GPS Apps to help familiarize myself with campus early in the semester, I really think the device shines in so many ways that I can easily foresee a time in the not-too-distant future when all of my school related tasks will happen on an iPhone. 8. Mophie Juice Pack Plus for iPhone 4. While I don't exactly love this case, I appreciated having the extra battery life. 9. Adobe Digital Editions Preview 1.8x on Mac. I hesitate to say anything positive about Adobe because there isn't anything positive to say about Adobe when it comes to accessibility. However, as has been mentioned by others on this list, Adobe appears to be making a slow and somewhat feeble effort to improve the accessibility of documents that use Adobe DRM. Several times during the semester I was able to find important reading materials only available in this DRM format that were accessible only through this Digital Editions 1.8 Preview. The Application still has a long way to go to obtain true accessibility, but it's a start and I was glad to have it when needed. 10. Textbooks and e-Textbooks. The lack of equal access to textbooks was my single biggest hurdle this semester. . It's a crime, plain and simple. Almost all textbooks today are produced in a digital format before they are ever printed on paper, and it would involve no effort on the part of publishers to make those digital editions available in a fully screen-reader accessible format for blind and VI students. However, as far as I can tell most publishers are still taking the low road and placing roadblocks in front of these eBooks by default. . It seems most of the printed textbooks used at my university are offered as 6 month e-Textbook rentals hosted on the popular site, CourseSmart.com. While the accessibility of CourseSmart's hosted materials varies from title-to-title, they do offer to review and try to maximize the readability of any title if you contact them at the email address provided on their website. They ask that you give them 3 weeks lead time to do the work. As with many eBooks, the 2 titles I've used on CourseSmart have been less than optimal for navigation by VO in Safari, and the native IOS and OSX CourseSmart apps do not make the body of text available to VO, although I had some success using IOS Safari to navigate their site and to read my textbooks. The most success I've had is by printing the book to PDF and OCR'ing it as noted above. Unfortunately, CourseSmart limits printing to 10 pages at a time. Another issue I'm having with CourseSmart has to do with a textbook they promised to tag over 4 months ago. It is a language learning textbook for native US English speakers learning Spanish, and apparently CourseSmart is having difficulty getting it properly translated in a screen-reader friendly format. They are promising to have it ready for Spring semester, along with 2 other titles I'll be using then. One more note: I would add Bento as number 11 on my list, but I prefer to do a separate write-up on Bento for Mac, iPhone and iPad because I think it is a truly overlooked gem in the world of accessible productivity apps. One of my goals during this 5 week Winter break is to create a VO User's Guide for Bento which I'll post to the list when ready. CHeers, Bryan From blindman75 at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 09:32:22 2011 From: blindman75 at gmail.com (Shaun Oliver) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:02:22 +1030 Subject: New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: <22C61C61-D226-4E41-89C7-6D8BCA20D7CD@mac-access.net> References: <22C61C61-D226-4E41-89C7-6D8BCA20D7CD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4EEDB326.5090504@gmail.com> Hi Pula, There's beer in the fridge also, should you wish to partake. welcome to our ever growing community. On 18/12/2011 06:11, Lewis Alexander wrote: > Hi Pula, > > welcome to our inner sanctum. > > tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts. > > pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help. > > all the best and a merry christmas. > > lew > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne& Tracy wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >> Paula Hobley >> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. >> >> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >> >> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS and Mac OS discussion forum. >> >> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help you. >> >> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >> >> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >> >> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: >> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sun Dec 18 10:59:45 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:59:45 +0000 Subject: Top Ten list of tools and techniques I used to successfully complete my first college semester as a blind student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations and an extremely interesting read. As of last Thursday I m recommencing my PhD after 18 months break. When i suspended due to ill health I was an exclusive Windows user, now I have switch to the Mac. There are are areas of your experience that I have not considered and I look forward to your write up of bento. I had not considered this as a learning aid and am intrigued as to how you used it. My main problem which I need to over come is that I have to deal with plethora of word documents with tables. So far I have tried Text Edit, Bean, Nius Writer Pro and pages. The program which seemed to cope best was the free bean program but was still difficult so I have ended up using Fusion and Microsoft Word to cope with Tables. I was hoping that Nisus Writer pro would provide the answer as this has received good write ups but doe snot appear to have cracked this nut yet. In terms of scanning I would give a cautious recommendation for the EyePal Scanner and software. The scanning is lightning fast and the recognition is good. You can scan a 300 page book in about an hour. The practical drawback of the scanner is that it freezes every time that you scan a blank page, so if thou try to scan a letter and you have put the wrong side under the camera then bye bye application. The software is self voicing and you have to turn Voiceover off to use it as it is a port of the Windows software under the X11 utility. Very nearly a fantastic product but extremely expensive. David GriffithDavid Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com On 18 Dec 2011, at 05:08, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello All, > > I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone on this list who shared your school experiences with me and offered good advice on tools and techniques. Now that my semester is over, I want to give back some information about some of those tools and techniques in hopes somebody else might find them useful. I just completed my first college semester in over 20 years, my first as a blind person, and I'm proud to say I did very well in both of my classes. I've now enrolled as a full time student for the Spring 2012 semester with an estimated graduation date of June, 2013, only 29 years after I took my first college course. . > > I was able to perform all necessary computer-related functions using my Macbook Air and iPhone 4. Half way through the semester I installed Windows 7 in a FUsion VM just in case, but never even got around to installing NVDA because I did not encounter any accessibility roadblocks that couldn't be handled on my MBA or iPhone. Here is my "Top 10" list of tools and techniques I used this semester. > > 1. Pages on the Mac. This past SUmmer I took a series of Pages lessons via Skype with Anne and Archie Robertson. (For those who are new to the list, Anne is an assistant moderator here.) The lessons were informative and enjoyable, as Anne & Archie are a great team with a wealth of experience working with Apple products and accessibility tools and techniques. During the semester I wrote several dozen essays, most of them in Pages, and never once had a problem creating a document that met the requirements of my professors. My university is standardized almost exclusively on Windows, MS Office, and Outlook, yet I never had a problem opening any Office documents in Preview, TextEdit or Pages and was easily able to use Outlook Web Access via Safari on my Macbook Air to send & receive emails and attachments. > > 2. The "ABBYY FineReader Express" Mac App. I used ABBYY extensively this semester. One of my textbooks was only available in print, but I was able to scan important chunks of the book using the flatbed scanner on my HP PhotoSmart C6100 MFP attached via USB to my Macbook Air. I scanned using Vuescan and then let ABBYY do the OCR into an RTF file. I also used ABYY to OCR graphic PDF files such as those output from OSX's "save to PDF" print function as noted below in the section where I talk about textbooks. And of course, I received a number of incorrectly created PDF files for such things as class syllabi and tuition invoices, all of which ABBYY handled quite nicely. > > 3. The "Flashcards++" IOS App. I made extensive use of the excellent and fully VO-accessible IOS App named "Flashcards++." I posted a review of the app on applevis if you're interested, but I'll just add here that this app blows me away every time I use it. The simplicity of the interface hides a tremendous wealth of options. There are numerous ways to import cards you've created, such as via a simple CSV created in TextEdit, or via the major flashcard sites such as quizlet.com. You can also create the cards manually right on the device and can edit any of the cards you've imported or created. Once you've created your cards, you have access to a vast number of ways to display the cards, and the built-in logic really worked well to focus on the cards I was having difficulty learning. While the app is great for general purpose learning, it was actually developed by a student of languages and includes tools to handle many languages. You can select a different language for the fr > ont and back of each card and, if you don't want to rotor between VO voices to hear correct pronunciation, a button is provided to speak the words via a TTS engine hosted somewhere on the Internet. > > 4. The "Speak It" IOS App. This App was recommended by Esther, and I used it more and more as the semester progressed. Essentially, speak It will read a block of text pasted into the App, and, unlike VO, will continue to read it aloud even when the iPhone has been locked. I would often cut and paste chapters from an OCR'd textbook into Speak It, lock the iPhone screen, stick the phone in my pocket, and listen to the information over and over again as I went about other tasks. > > 5. The "ClearRecord" IOS App. I used this App on my iPhone to record every lecture this semester. It somehow manages to do a good job of blocking out some of the extraneous classroom noises while capturing the important stuff. One shortcoming of this App is it's weak playback controls and options. I worked around this issue by using iTunes on the Mac to tag the recordings as audiobooks for playback via other Apps. > > 6. 11 inch Macbook Air. Most days I walk several miles to and from classes and the 2.5 pound weight of my MBA is a blessing on my skinny frame, especially on those days when I'm also packing an umbrella, water bottle, towel, dog kibble, etc. My MBA has the i7 CPU and was able to handle everything I threw at it. Sometimes the fan would kick on during an extended OCR process, but that was the extent of the complaining I heard coming from the Air. > > 7. iPHone 4 on the AT&T network. I've said it before: I consider this iPHone to be almost as helpful as my guide dog in terms of my independence and safety. While I used several GPS Apps to help familiarize myself with campus early in the semester, I really think the device shines in so many ways that I can easily foresee a time in the not-too-distant future when all of my school related tasks will happen on an iPhone. > > 8. Mophie Juice Pack Plus for iPhone 4. While I don't exactly love this case, I appreciated having the extra battery life. > > 9. Adobe Digital Editions Preview 1.8x on Mac. I hesitate to say anything positive about Adobe because there isn't anything positive to say about Adobe when it comes to accessibility. However, as has been mentioned by others on this list, Adobe appears to be making a slow and somewhat feeble effort to improve the accessibility of documents that use Adobe DRM. Several times during the semester I was able to find important reading materials only available in this DRM format that were accessible only through this Digital Editions 1.8 Preview. The Application still has a long way to go to obtain true accessibility, but it's a start and I was glad to have it when needed. > > 10. Textbooks and e-Textbooks. The lack of equal access to textbooks was my single biggest hurdle this semester. . It's a crime, plain and simple. Almost all textbooks today are produced in a digital format before they are ever printed on paper, and it would involve no effort on the part of publishers to make those digital editions available in a fully screen-reader accessible format for blind and VI students. However, as far as I can tell most publishers are still taking the low road and placing roadblocks in front of these eBooks by default. . It seems most of the printed textbooks used at my university are offered as 6 month e-Textbook rentals hosted on the popular site, CourseSmart.com. While the accessibility of CourseSmart's hosted materials varies from title-to-title, they do offer to review and try to maximize the readability of any title if you contact them at the email address provided on their website. They ask that > you give them 3 weeks lead time to do the work. As with many eBooks, the 2 titles I've used on CourseSmart have been less than optimal for navigation by VO in Safari, and the native IOS and OSX CourseSmart apps do not make the body of text available to VO, although I had some success using IOS Safari to navigate their site and to read my textbooks. The most success I've had is by printing the book to PDF and OCR'ing it as noted above. Unfortunately, CourseSmart limits printing to 10 pages at a time. Another issue I'm having with CourseSmart has to do with a textbook they promised to tag over 4 months ago. It is a language learning textbook for native US English speakers learning Spanish, and apparently CourseSmart is having difficulty getting it properly translated in a screen-reader friendly format. They are promising to have it ready for Spring semester, along with 2 other titles I'll be using then. > > One more note: I would add Bento as number 11 on my list, but I prefer to do a separate write-up on Bento for Mac, iPhone and iPad because I think it is a truly overlooked gem in the world of accessible productivity apps. One of my goals during this 5 week Winter break is to create a VO User's Guide for Bento which I'll post to the list when ready. > > CHeers, > Bryan > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 11:05:47 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 11:05:47 +0000 Subject: got the voice to work on the iphone Message-ID: <0D02FC19-8BCB-4ED1-9BDA-C29BF0130507@gmail.com> hi all I got the daniel premium voice to work on my iphone but if i want samamtha do I just change region? or can I only get daniel From support at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 11:29:51 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon, Lynne & Tracy) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 11:29:51 +0000 Subject: Replying to New Member Welcomes Message-ID: <77D3107D-0A25-401C-8109-F779EDE0DCC8@mac-access.net> Hello everybody It's been brought to my attention, quite properly, that the number of replies to welcome messages is growing to such an extent that list traffic is becoming both off topic and out of control for some members. Having reviewed the recent posts, I share the concern of the member who raised this with me. So, may I request that members please do not reply to welcome messages on list. That was originally part of the welcome message; I don't know how it got removed, but it's been re-added. I understand the desire of people to introduce themselves. However, other members are replying to the intros, replying to the reply to the intros, and so it goes on. So, we are now going to have to try and monitor this more diligently in an effort to keep list traffic topical. So, in summary; please do not reply to welcome messages. I have contacted some off list about this, but please, all, let's keep traffic on topic so that it doesn't get out of hand. We're losing members because of this, and those members have contributed a great deal of useful information to the group. So your cooperation and understanding would be appreciated. We are going to watch this carefully from this point onwards. Thank you. Lynne From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 12:42:06 2011 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria, Joe and Karly) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:42:06 +1100 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder In-Reply-To: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> Message-ID: <4EEDDF9E.8030706@gmail.com> hmm i have never had it do this. must try and see. interesting. Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com dj on www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk On 18/12/2011 8:20 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. > > I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side and the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on my iphone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos. > > . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One face, large face, face centered." > > I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. > > Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. > > I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From blindman75 at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 12:46:41 2011 From: blindman75 at gmail.com (Shaun Oliver) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:16:41 +1030 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder In-Reply-To: <4EEDDF9E.8030706@gmail.com> References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> <4EEDDF9E.8030706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EEDE0B1.1040204@gmail.com> I'd love to know how to do this. I tried but it wouldn't work. it'd certainly make taking pictures a good deal easier. On 18/12/2011 23:12, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: > hmm i have never had it do this. must try and see. > > interesting. > > Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia > > God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to > say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" > twitter bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > dj on www.powerradio104.us > join me on > www.tafn.org.uk > > > On 18/12/2011 8:20 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't >> recall knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it >> completely by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. >> >> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side >> and the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the >> iPhone camera at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the >> native camera app on my iphone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode >> with auto flash and back-facing camera, held it straight in front of >> me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general direction of my >> face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos. >> >> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near >> top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, >> small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO >> announce, "face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face >> and VO announced, "One face, large face, face centered." >> >> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. >> I also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. >> >> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face >> but could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't >> want to be part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. >> >> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. >> >> Cheers, >> Bryan >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 12:53:25 2011 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria, Joe and Karly) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:53:25 +1100 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder In-Reply-To: <4EEDE0B1.1040204@gmail.com> References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> <4EEDDF9E.8030706@gmail.com> <4EEDE0B1.1040204@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EEDE245.3050104@gmail.com> hi. have you tried guided photo pro? i found it on the appple vis site when i first got my iphone. it will guide you in centering faces. I found it a bit slow on the iphone 4 haven't tried it on the 4s yet. Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com dj on www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk On 18/12/2011 11:46 PM, Shaun Oliver wrote: > I'd love to know how to do this. I tried but it wouldn't work. it'd > certainly make taking pictures a good deal easier. > > > On 18/12/2011 23:12, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: >> hmm i have never had it do this. must try and see. >> >> interesting. >> >> Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia >> >> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to >> say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" >> twitter bubbygirl >> skype: bubbygirl1972 >> msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> dj on www.powerradio104.us >> join me on >> www.tafn.org.uk >> >> >> On 18/12/2011 8:20 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't >>> recall knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it >>> completely by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. >>> >>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side >>> and the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the >>> iPhone camera at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched >>> the native camera app on my iphone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo >>> mode with auto flash and back-facing camera, held it straight in >>> front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general direction >>> of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos. >>> >>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near >>> top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, >>> small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO >>> announce, "face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face >>> and VO announced, "One face, large face, face centered." >>> >>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same >>> results. I also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. >>> >>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face >>> but could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't >>> want to be part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. >>> >>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bryan >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 12:50:46 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:50:46 +0000 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder In-Reply-To: <4EEDE0B1.1040204@gmail.com> References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> <4EEDDF9E.8030706@gmail.com> <4EEDE0B1.1040204@gmail.com> Message-ID: this technology exists in iphoto where the face is recognized and with input from the user, the face can be identified as a name. with a little tinkering with the phone camera software, I don't see why with a reference target, the face can be identified and spoken by name, etc even to the extent of adding a contact link to refer to the address book / contacts list. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 12:46, Shaun Oliver wrote: > I'd love to know how to do this. I tried but it wouldn't work. it'd certainly make taking pictures a good deal easier. > > > On 18/12/2011 23:12, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: >> hmm i have never had it do this. must try and see. >> >> interesting. >> >> Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia >> >> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" >> twitter bubbygirl >> skype: bubbygirl1972 >> msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> dj on www.powerradio104.us >> join me on >> www.tafn.org.uk >> >> >> On 18/12/2011 8:20 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. >>> >>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side and the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on my iphone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos. >>> >>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One face, large face, face centered." >>> >>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. >>> >>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. >>> >>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bryan >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From mattchao at verizon.net Sun Dec 18 13:19:32 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:19:32 -0500 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder In-Reply-To: <1DF07D7C-028B-4D7F-B7A5-5E0A90D6F4DF@gmail.com> References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> <026440F3-9A48-44D4-84E3-D291FEB68A42@gmail.com> <2BACFBA47B4F476297BFFDCA9D8F00ED@your2c061f0461> <93325ACA-6FBE-4508-AEA9-EDAD3B1FF92C@computing.dcu.ie> <8C95BA205BCA4EC3A914FA4616FB2375@your2c061f0461> <1DF07D7C-028B-4D7F-B7A5-5E0A90D6F4DF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0LWE008KXICN2YF0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Interesting. Tried the facial thing on my 4s, and it's pretty amazing. Don't know about the iPhone 4 with iOS 5, though. Matthew Chao >Hmm that's interesting. maybe in a few years. >You never know. You just never know. >On Dec 17, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Glenn wrote: > > > I wonder if it will lead to facial recognition, so it will say mom on left > > and dad on right, for example. > > Glenn > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "D?nal Fitzpatrick" > > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:39 PM > > Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder > > > > > > Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference > > in Dundee which assisted blind photography. Hasn't been released yet but > > some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain. > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote: > > > >> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it > >> just as Bryan did. > >> Glenn > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Sarah Alawami" > >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM > >> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder > >> > >> > >> lol. I can hardly get that to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll > >> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then > >> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face > >> thing > >> and I hope it improves with time. > >> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Folks, > >>> > >>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall > >>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely > >>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. > >>> > >>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side and > >>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera > >>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app > >>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and > >>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing > >>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one > >>> of my standard off-center photos. > >>> > >>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top > >>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, > >>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face > >>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, > >>> "One face, large face, face centered." > >>> > >>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I > >>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. > >>> > >>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but > >>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be > >>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. > >>> > >>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Bryan > >>> > >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >>> > >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > >>> mac-access at mac-access.net > >>> > >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >>> > >>> or at the public Mail Archive: > >>> . > >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >>> > >>> > >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > >>> and worm-free! > >>> > >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > >>> visiting > >>> the list website at: > >>> > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > >> mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > >> at > >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >> > >> or at the public Mail Archive: > >> . > >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > >> and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > >> the list website at: > >> > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > >> mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >> > >> or at the public Mail Archive: > >> . > >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > >> and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership > options periodically by visiting > >> the list website at: > >> > > > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at > > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > > and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > > the list website at: > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your > message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the > list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed > malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership > options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your >message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the >list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed >malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership >options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sandratomkins at googlemail.com Sun Dec 18 13:27:13 2011 From: sandratomkins at googlemail.com (Sandy Tomkins) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:27:13 +0000 Subject: premium voice again ios five In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Will, These are the conditions necessary for the HQ voice to download: 1. Have WiFi turned on. 2. Have the phone pluged in, preferably to the mains; 3. Press the power button so the screen is locked. I.E. you hear "screen locked". Then wait for at least ten minutes, but give it half an hour to avoid frustration. HTH Sandy. Sent from my iPhone On 17 Dec 2011, at 11:26, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Will, > > I could be wrong about this, but I think you need to be plugged directly to the Mac with your USB cable, as the download comes from iTunes. I do not think that the Wi-Fi sync capabilities of IOS 5+ do not extend to the downloading of content that is not already in your iTunes Library. > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 10:29, william lomas wrote: > >> hi all i have my iphone 4 running 5.01 wifi on and connected to mains, yet even with my default language of english andcompact voice off, nothing changing? >> will >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sun Dec 18 14:33:37 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Thejazzden) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:33:37 +0000 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder In-Reply-To: <0LWE008KXICN2YF0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> <026440F3-9A48-44D4-84E3-D291FEB68A42@gmail.com> <2BACFBA47B4F476297BFFDCA9D8F00ED@your2c061f0461> <93325ACA-6FBE-4508-AEA9-EDAD3B1FF92C@computing.dcu.ie> <8C95BA205BCA4EC3A914FA4616FB2375@your2c061f0461> <1DF07D7C-028B-4D7F-B7A5-5E0A90D6F4DF@gmail.com> <0LWE008KXICN2YF0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <7B485B16-3EDA-4D3A-86A4-4062F83860B6@thejazzden.org.uk> Hello everyone. it does work. Using an IPhone 4 here. I'm totally blind so while it was fairly easy to learn where to stand and how to point the camera,you need to angle or tilt the phone to take into account the subject's height and their position in the photo frame. I was lucky to hav a sighted helper and you need to practise, as with any skill. Sometimes VoiceOver says 'small face' when it isn't which makes you think you've still not got the positioningg right . But it is useable. While Guided Photo I think gives a little more direction I found it much slower, but that was using the IPhone 3GS. One last point. I found taking a photo of myself with the front camera was a good way of mlearning how to hold the phone still. Usingthe volume up button with the phone locked rather than double tapping 'take picture' really does help too for getting a steady shot. Hth. Dennis. Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 18 Dec 2011, at 13:19, Matthew Chao wrote: > Interesting. Tried the facial thing on my 4s, and it's pretty amazing. Don't know about the iPhone 4 with iOS 5, though. > > Matthew Chao > > >> Hmm that's interesting. maybe in a few years. You never know. You just never know. >> On Dec 17, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Glenn wrote: >> >> > I wonder if it will lead to facial recognition, so it will say mom on left >> > and dad on right, for example. >> > Glenn >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "D?nal Fitzpatrick" >> > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:39 PM >> > Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder >> > >> > >> > Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference >> > in Dundee which assisted blind photography. Hasn't been released yet but >> > some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain. >> > On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote: >> > >> >> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it >> >> just as Bryan did. >> >> Glenn >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Sarah Alawami" >> >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM >> >> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder >> >> >> >> >> >> lol. I can hardly get that to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll >> >> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then >> >> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face >> >> thing >> >> and I hope it improves with time. >> >> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Folks, >> >>> >> >>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall >> >>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely >> >>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. >> >>> >> >>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side and >> >>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera >> >>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app >> >>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and >> >>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing >> >>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one >> >>> of my standard off-center photos. >> >>> >> >>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top >> >>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, >> >>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face >> >>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, >> >>> "One face, large face, face centered." >> >>> >> >>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I >> >>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. >> >>> >> >>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but >> >>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be >> >>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. >> >>> >> >>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Bryan >> >>> >> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >>> >> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >>> >> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >>> >> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >> >>> . >> >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> >>> and worm-free! >> >>> >> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> >>> visiting >> >>> the list website at: >> >>> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> >> at >> >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> >> . >> >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> >> and worm-free! >> >> >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> >> the list website at: >> >> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> >> . >> >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> >> and worm-free! >> >> >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> >> the list website at: >> >> >> > >> > D?nal Fitzpatrick >> > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> > >> > >> > >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to >> > mac-access at mac-access.net >> > >> > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> > either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> > . >> > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > >> > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> > and worm-free! >> > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> > the list website at: >> > >> > >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> > >> > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> > . >> > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > >> > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 14:54:26 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:54:26 +0000 Subject: accessible FTP client In-Reply-To: <02D236E8D211474AB6B263F0F3378871@PaulaPC> References: <02D236E8D211474AB6B263F0F3378871@PaulaPC> Message-ID: Hello Paula On 18 Dec 2011, at 00:37, Paula Hobley wrote: ? I am looking for an accessible FTP client. I have tried Yummy FTP but I find it hard to use. Does anybody have any suggestions? You'd be better of with Panic Transmit. You can find it here: It's fully accessible and easy to use. I hope that helps. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 14:58:22 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:58:22 +0000 Subject: accessible FTP client In-Reply-To: <551CF5E7-D840-4C2A-8A5C-67AC0BA2E3F3@bigpond.com> References: <02D236E8D211474AB6B263F0F3378871@PaulaPC> <0A20C3C75993416BACFF7D43C6ED86AA@karen796b6a58c> <8CD7A5D7-FD0E-4F9B-B823-615411C504F2@bigpond.com> <70AF95A1-0CA3-415A-8485-EDF486C7FE3E@gmail.com> <551CF5E7-D840-4C2A-8A5C-67AC0BA2E3F3@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <5B598D1B-6240-400B-B4B1-961E22C75380@mac-access.net> Hello Paula On 18 Dec 2011, at 03:26, Paula Hobley wrote: ? I had a look at transmit. All I want 2 be able to do is get some material off an ftp site. It's probably a little too expensive for the small amount that I need to be able to do with it. If you're familiar with the Unix shell you could use the in-built ftP service that comes with Mac OS. Lynne From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 15:02:35 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:02:35 +0000 Subject: accessible FTP client In-Reply-To: <5B598D1B-6240-400B-B4B1-961E22C75380@mac-access.net> References: <02D236E8D211474AB6B263F0F3378871@PaulaPC> <0A20C3C75993416BACFF7D43C6ED86AA@karen796b6a58c> <8CD7A5D7-FD0E-4F9B-B823-615411C504F2@bigpond.com> <70AF95A1-0CA3-415A-8485-EDF486C7FE3E@gmail.com> <551CF5E7-D840-4C2A-8A5C-67AC0BA2E3F3@bigpond.com> <5B598D1B-6240-400B-B4B1-961E22C75380@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9E11076E-A0D1-4F6B-AD25-7E966B518F40@mac-access.net> Hi Paula, cyberduck is a great free alternative which I quite like for data on the fly. I use this and another solution for corporate use for server work and love cyberduck. Transmit is a decent package and worth the money if you're regularly working with FTP sites and servers. Lew Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From opensesame at me.com Sun Dec 18 15:11:50 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:11:50 -0500 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder In-Reply-To: <4EEDE0B1.1040204@gmail.com> References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com> <4EEDDF9E.8030706@gmail.com> <4EEDE0B1.1040204@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Shaun and others, This morning when I read the messages of folks having trouble getting this to work I tried doing a self-portrait again and, much to my surprise, I could not get VO to speak the facial thing again. I was pretty sure my face didn't go away overnight, so I thought maybe the issue was related to lighting or background color or my untrimmed eyebrows getting in the way, but altering all of these variables made no difference. I still could not get VO to talk about my face. Turning to my usual first standard troubleshooting procedure, I cleared all apps from my app switcher as I had launched about a dozen apps since yesterday's successful facial recognition. I then re-launched the camera app, held the phone at arms length with the rear facing camera aimed at the spot just above the top of my torso where my face was yesterday, and voila! VO immediately started telling me I had a small face in my viewfinder. I was then able to do all the tilting and stuff I did yesterday and it all worked fine again. Unfortunately, VO still doesn't seem to consider my dog's face to be a real face, and the cat is nowhere to be found this morning :-( For the record, I am using an iPhone 4 running the latest version of IOS 5. HTH, Bryan On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Shaun Oliver wrote: > I'd love to know how to do this. I tried but it wouldn't work. it'd certainly make taking pictures a good deal easier. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Dec 18 15:26:48 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:26:48 +0000 Subject: Top Ten list of tools and techniques I used to successfully complete my first college semester as a blind student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34CB20C1-276F-4211-8202-5EE672239492@computing.dcu.ie> Bryan, This is a superb commentary. I think this should appear somewhere on Mac-Access (mods?) and form the basis of a "wiki" style resource for students. I'll now give you this from the other side of the fence. As some may know, I'm a lecturer (assistant prof. to use US/Canadian Parlance) so I have similar issues in terms of needing to access textbooks etc. Some will disagree with this, but (particularly if in the US) Bookshare.org has a wealth of information which I've found useful. It should be noted that many of their computer-science e-texts are available to international subscribers, however the issues surrounding electronic dissemination of materials highlighted by Bryan limit what they can provide. There are, erm, ways around this but I have *no* intention of posting them here or elsewhere so don't ask. One aspect where OSX and VO are truly abysmal is in the area of making presentations. Anne Robertson has played with this extensively and has come up with several ingenious workarounds. However, it seems criminal that two years after release, VO still cannot access a presentation when the thing is being played in slideshow mode. What do Apple think blind people want to do with Keynote, create presentations and have someone else make them? My preferred way to prepare presentations (and in fact most documents) is LaTex; and I know that James Austen also uses this with considerable success. Basically for those not familiar with it, you use a markup like HTML (relax people it's not the same just similar in idea) to prepare your document. So if I want to create a slide I'll dO: \begin{slide} % content \end{slide} You then generate a PDF from this, and use Skim to present. In another blinding example of Apple's genius, Preview is horrible in slideshow mode. And yes before the usual suspects (apple fanboys and girls for whom the corporation can do no wrong) jump on the band waggon, I have reported this several times. For development work I use xcode for some things such as correcting C++ etc. But for other things I just use a text editor and command line tools. this mail has gone on longer than I thought so I'll leave it there. Cheers D?nal On 18 Dec 2011, at 05:08, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello All, > > I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone on this list who shared your school experiences with me and offered good advice on tools and techniques. Now that my semester is over, I want to give back some information about some of those tools and techniques in hopes somebody else might find them useful. I just completed my first college semester in over 20 years, my first as a blind person, and I'm proud to say I did very well in both of my classes. I've now enrolled as a full time student for the Spring 2012 semester with an estimated graduation date of June, 2013, only 29 years after I took my first college course. . > > I was able to perform all necessary computer-related functions using my Macbook Air and iPhone 4. Half way through the semester I installed Windows 7 in a FUsion VM just in case, but never even got around to installing NVDA because I did not encounter any accessibility roadblocks that couldn't be handled on my MBA or iPhone. Here is my "Top 10" list of tools and techniques I used this semester. > > 1. Pages on the Mac. This past SUmmer I took a series of Pages lessons via Skype with Anne and Archie Robertson. (For those who are new to the list, Anne is an assistant moderator here.) The lessons were informative and enjoyable, as Anne & Archie are a great team with a wealth of experience working with Apple products and accessibility tools and techniques. During the semester I wrote several dozen essays, most of them in Pages, and never once had a problem creating a document that met the requirements of my professors. My university is standardized almost exclusively on Windows, MS Office, and Outlook, yet I never had a problem opening any Office documents in Preview, TextEdit or Pages and was easily able to use Outlook Web Access via Safari on my Macbook Air to send & receive emails and attachments. > > 2. The "ABBYY FineReader Express" Mac App. I used ABBYY extensively this semester. One of my textbooks was only available in print, but I was able to scan important chunks of the book using the flatbed scanner on my HP PhotoSmart C6100 MFP attached via USB to my Macbook Air. I scanned using Vuescan and then let ABBYY do the OCR into an RTF file. I also used ABYY to OCR graphic PDF files such as those output from OSX's "save to PDF" print function as noted below in the section where I talk about textbooks. And of course, I received a number of incorrectly created PDF files for such things as class syllabi and tuition invoices, all of which ABBYY handled quite nicely. > > 3. The "Flashcards++" IOS App. I made extensive use of the excellent and fully VO-accessible IOS App named "Flashcards++." I posted a review of the app on applevis if you're interested, but I'll just add here that this app blows me away every time I use it. The simplicity of the interface hides a tremendous wealth of options. There are numerous ways to import cards you've created, such as via a simple CSV created in TextEdit, or via the major flashcard sites such as quizlet.com. You can also create the cards manually right on the device and can edit any of the cards you've imported or created. Once you've created your cards, you have access to a vast number of ways to display the cards, and the built-in logic really worked well to focus on the cards I was having difficulty learning. While the app is great for general purpose learning, it was actually developed by a student of languages and includes tools to handle many languages. You can select a different language for the fr > ont and back of each card and, if you don't want to rotor between VO voices to hear correct pronunciation, a button is provided to speak the words via a TTS engine hosted somewhere on the Internet. > > 4. The "Speak It" IOS App. This App was recommended by Esther, and I used it more and more as the semester progressed. Essentially, speak It will read a block of text pasted into the App, and, unlike VO, will continue to read it aloud even when the iPhone has been locked. I would often cut and paste chapters from an OCR'd textbook into Speak It, lock the iPhone screen, stick the phone in my pocket, and listen to the information over and over again as I went about other tasks. > > 5. The "ClearRecord" IOS App. I used this App on my iPhone to record every lecture this semester. It somehow manages to do a good job of blocking out some of the extraneous classroom noises while capturing the important stuff. One shortcoming of this App is it's weak playback controls and options. I worked around this issue by using iTunes on the Mac to tag the recordings as audiobooks for playback via other Apps. > > 6. 11 inch Macbook Air. Most days I walk several miles to and from classes and the 2.5 pound weight of my MBA is a blessing on my skinny frame, especially on those days when I'm also packing an umbrella, water bottle, towel, dog kibble, etc. My MBA has the i7 CPU and was able to handle everything I threw at it. Sometimes the fan would kick on during an extended OCR process, but that was the extent of the complaining I heard coming from the Air. > > 7. iPHone 4 on the AT&T network. I've said it before: I consider this iPHone to be almost as helpful as my guide dog in terms of my independence and safety. While I used several GPS Apps to help familiarize myself with campus early in the semester, I really think the device shines in so many ways that I can easily foresee a time in the not-too-distant future when all of my school related tasks will happen on an iPhone. > > 8. Mophie Juice Pack Plus for iPhone 4. While I don't exactly love this case, I appreciated having the extra battery life. > > 9. Adobe Digital Editions Preview 1.8x on Mac. I hesitate to say anything positive about Adobe because there isn't anything positive to say about Adobe when it comes to accessibility. However, as has been mentioned by others on this list, Adobe appears to be making a slow and somewhat feeble effort to improve the accessibility of documents that use Adobe DRM. Several times during the semester I was able to find important reading materials only available in this DRM format that were accessible only through this Digital Editions 1.8 Preview. The Application still has a long way to go to obtain true accessibility, but it's a start and I was glad to have it when needed. > > 10. Textbooks and e-Textbooks. The lack of equal access to textbooks was my single biggest hurdle this semester. . It's a crime, plain and simple. Almost all textbooks today are produced in a digital format before they are ever printed on paper, and it would involve no effort on the part of publishers to make those digital editions available in a fully screen-reader accessible format for blind and VI students. However, as far as I can tell most publishers are still taking the low road and placing roadblocks in front of these eBooks by default. . It seems most of the printed textbooks used at my university are offered as 6 month e-Textbook rentals hosted on the popular site, CourseSmart.com. While the accessibility of CourseSmart's hosted materials varies from title-to-title, they do offer to review and try to maximize the readability of any title if you contact them at the email address provided on their website. They ask that > you give them 3 weeks lead time to do the work. As with many eBooks, the 2 titles I've used on CourseSmart have been less than optimal for navigation by VO in Safari, and the native IOS and OSX CourseSmart apps do not make the body of text available to VO, although I had some success using IOS Safari to navigate their site and to read my textbooks. The most success I've had is by printing the book to PDF and OCR'ing it as noted above. Unfortunately, CourseSmart limits printing to 10 pages at a time. Another issue I'm having with CourseSmart has to do with a textbook they promised to tag over 4 months ago. It is a language learning textbook for native US English speakers learning Spanish, and apparently CourseSmart is having difficulty getting it properly translated in a screen-reader friendly format. They are promising to have it ready for Spring semester, along with 2 other titles I'll be using then. > > One more note: I would add Bento as number 11 on my list, but I prefer to do a separate write-up on Bento for Mac, iPhone and iPad because I think it is a truly overlooked gem in the world of accessible productivity apps. One of my goals during this 5 week Winter break is to create a VO User's Guide for Bento which I'll post to the list when ready. > > CHeers, > Bryan > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Dec 18 15:25:57 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:25:57 +0000 Subject: Top Ten list of tools and techniques I used to successfully complete my first college semester as a blind student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11873976-7573-452E-BFEC-658343628886@computing.dcu.ie> Bryan, This is a superb commentary. I think this should appear somewhere on Mac-Access (mods?) and form the basis of a "wiki" style resource for students. I'll now give you this from the other side of the fence. As some may know, I'm a lecturer (assistant prof. to use US/Canadian Parlance) so I have similar issues in terms of needing to access textbooks etc. Some will disagree with this, but (particularly if in the US) Bookshare.org has a wealth of information which I've found useful. It should be noted that many of their computer-science e-texts are available to international subscribers, however the issues surrounding electronic dissemination of materials highlighted by Bryan limit what they can provide. There are, erm, ways around this but I have *no* intention of posting them here or elsewhere so don't ask. One aspect where OSX and VO are truly abysmal is in the area of making presentations. Anne Robertson has played with this extensively and has come up with several ingenious workarounds. However, it seems criminal that two years after release, VO still cannot access a presentation when the thing is being played in slideshow mode. What do Apple think blind people want to do with Keynote, create presentations and have someone else make them? My preferred way to prepare presentations (and in fact most documents) is LaTex; and I know that James Austen also uses this with considerable success. Basically for those not familiar with it, you use a markup like HTML (relax people it's not the same just similar in idea) to prepare your document. So if I want to create a slide I'll dO: \begin{slide} % content \end{slide} You then generate a PDF from this, and use Skim to present. In another blinding example of Apple's genius, Preview is horrible in slideshow mode. And yes before the usual suspects (apple fanboys and girls for whom the corporation can do no wrong) jump on the band waggon, I have reported this several times. For development work I use xcode for some things such as correcting C++ etc. But for other things I just use a text editor and command line tools. this mail has gone on longer than I thought so I'll leave it there. Cheers D?nal On 18 Dec 2011, at 05:08, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello All, > > I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone on this list who shared your school experiences with me and offered good advice on tools and techniques. Now that my semester is over, I want to give back some information about some of those tools and techniques in hopes somebody else might find them useful. I just completed my first college semester in over 20 years, my first as a blind person, and I'm proud to say I did very well in both of my classes. I've now enrolled as a full time student for the Spring 2012 semester with an estimated graduation date of June, 2013, only 29 years after I took my first college course. . > > I was able to perform all necessary computer-related functions using my Macbook Air and iPhone 4. Half way through the semester I installed Windows 7 in a FUsion VM just in case, but never even got around to installing NVDA because I did not encounter any accessibility roadblocks that couldn't be handled on my MBA or iPhone. Here is my "Top 10" list of tools and techniques I used this semester. > > 1. Pages on the Mac. This past SUmmer I took a series of Pages lessons via Skype with Anne and Archie Robertson. (For those who are new to the list, Anne is an assistant moderator here.) The lessons were informative and enjoyable, as Anne & Archie are a great team with a wealth of experience working with Apple products and accessibility tools and techniques. During the semester I wrote several dozen essays, most of them in Pages, and never once had a problem creating a document that met the requirements of my professors. My university is standardized almost exclusively on Windows, MS Office, and Outlook, yet I never had a problem opening any Office documents in Preview, TextEdit or Pages and was easily able to use Outlook Web Access via Safari on my Macbook Air to send & receive emails and attachments. > > 2. The "ABBYY FineReader Express" Mac App. I used ABBYY extensively this semester. One of my textbooks was only available in print, but I was able to scan important chunks of the book using the flatbed scanner on my HP PhotoSmart C6100 MFP attached via USB to my Macbook Air. I scanned using Vuescan and then let ABBYY do the OCR into an RTF file. I also used ABYY to OCR graphic PDF files such as those output from OSX's "save to PDF" print function as noted below in the section where I talk about textbooks. And of course, I received a number of incorrectly created PDF files for such things as class syllabi and tuition invoices, all of which ABBYY handled quite nicely. > > 3. The "Flashcards++" IOS App. I made extensive use of the excellent and fully VO-accessible IOS App named "Flashcards++." I posted a review of the app on applevis if you're interested, but I'll just add here that this app blows me away every time I use it. The simplicity of the interface hides a tremendous wealth of options. There are numerous ways to import cards you've created, such as via a simple CSV created in TextEdit, or via the major flashcard sites such as quizlet.com. You can also create the cards manually right on the device and can edit any of the cards you've imported or created. Once you've created your cards, you have access to a vast number of ways to display the cards, and the built-in logic really worked well to focus on the cards I was having difficulty learning. While the app is great for general purpose learning, it was actually developed by a student of languages and includes tools to handle many languages. You can select a different language for the fr > ont and back of each card and, if you don't want to rotor between VO voices to hear correct pronunciation, a button is provided to speak the words via a TTS engine hosted somewhere on the Internet. > > 4. The "Speak It" IOS App. This App was recommended by Esther, and I used it more and more as the semester progressed. Essentially, speak It will read a block of text pasted into the App, and, unlike VO, will continue to read it aloud even when the iPhone has been locked. I would often cut and paste chapters from an OCR'd textbook into Speak It, lock the iPhone screen, stick the phone in my pocket, and listen to the information over and over again as I went about other tasks. > > 5. The "ClearRecord" IOS App. I used this App on my iPhone to record every lecture this semester. It somehow manages to do a good job of blocking out some of the extraneous classroom noises while capturing the important stuff. One shortcoming of this App is it's weak playback controls and options. I worked around this issue by using iTunes on the Mac to tag the recordings as audiobooks for playback via other Apps. > > 6. 11 inch Macbook Air. Most days I walk several miles to and from classes and the 2.5 pound weight of my MBA is a blessing on my skinny frame, especially on those days when I'm also packing an umbrella, water bottle, towel, dog kibble, etc. My MBA has the i7 CPU and was able to handle everything I threw at it. Sometimes the fan would kick on during an extended OCR process, but that was the extent of the complaining I heard coming from the Air. > > 7. iPHone 4 on the AT&T network. I've said it before: I consider this iPHone to be almost as helpful as my guide dog in terms of my independence and safety. While I used several GPS Apps to help familiarize myself with campus early in the semester, I really think the device shines in so many ways that I can easily foresee a time in the not-too-distant future when all of my school related tasks will happen on an iPhone. > > 8. Mophie Juice Pack Plus for iPhone 4. While I don't exactly love this case, I appreciated having the extra battery life. > > 9. Adobe Digital Editions Preview 1.8x on Mac. I hesitate to say anything positive about Adobe because there isn't anything positive to say about Adobe when it comes to accessibility. However, as has been mentioned by others on this list, Adobe appears to be making a slow and somewhat feeble effort to improve the accessibility of documents that use Adobe DRM. Several times during the semester I was able to find important reading materials only available in this DRM format that were accessible only through this Digital Editions 1.8 Preview. The Application still has a long way to go to obtain true accessibility, but it's a start and I was glad to have it when needed. > > 10. Textbooks and e-Textbooks. The lack of equal access to textbooks was my single biggest hurdle this semester. . It's a crime, plain and simple. Almost all textbooks today are produced in a digital format before they are ever printed on paper, and it would involve no effort on the part of publishers to make those digital editions available in a fully screen-reader accessible format for blind and VI students. However, as far as I can tell most publishers are still taking the low road and placing roadblocks in front of these eBooks by default. . It seems most of the printed textbooks used at my university are offered as 6 month e-Textbook rentals hosted on the popular site, CourseSmart.com. While the accessibility of CourseSmart's hosted materials varies from title-to-title, they do offer to review and try to maximize the readability of any title if you contact them at the email address provided on their website. They ask that > you give them 3 weeks lead time to do the work. As with many eBooks, the 2 titles I've used on CourseSmart have been less than optimal for navigation by VO in Safari, and the native IOS and OSX CourseSmart apps do not make the body of text available to VO, although I had some success using IOS Safari to navigate their site and to read my textbooks. The most success I've had is by printing the book to PDF and OCR'ing it as noted above. Unfortunately, CourseSmart limits printing to 10 pages at a time. Another issue I'm having with CourseSmart has to do with a textbook they promised to tag over 4 months ago. It is a language learning textbook for native US English speakers learning Spanish, and apparently CourseSmart is having difficulty getting it properly translated in a screen-reader friendly format. They are promising to have it ready for Spring semester, along with 2 other titles I'll be using then. > > One more note: I would add Bento as number 11 on my list, but I prefer to do a separate write-up on Bento for Mac, iPhone and iPad because I think it is a truly overlooked gem in the world of accessible productivity apps. One of my goals during this 5 week Winter break is to create a VO User's Guide for Bento which I'll post to the list when ready. > > CHeers, > Bryan > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com Sun Dec 18 16:06:36 2011 From: bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com (Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:06:36 +0000 Subject: Top Ten list of tools and techniques I used to successfully complete my first college semester as a blind student In-Reply-To: <34CB20C1-276F-4211-8202-5EE672239492@computing.dcu.ie> References: <34CB20C1-276F-4211-8202-5EE672239492@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 3:26 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > My preferred way to prepare presentations (and in fact most documents) is LaTex; and I know that James Austen also uses this with considerable success. ?Basically for those not familiar with it, you use a markup like HTML (relax people it's not the same just similar in idea) to prepare your document. FWIW you might try making slides in HTML and using a browser (perhaps in full-screen mode) to present. There are various frameworks for doing this; here's one: http://code.google.com/p/html5slides/ -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Dec 18 16:17:46 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:17:46 +0000 Subject: blue tooth keyboard that comes with Imac. Message-ID: Hi all with my Imac i got a blue tooth keyboard which came standard with it. Basicly the uparrow key has broken off it and the thing that it sits on came off to. if i end up having to replace the keyboard will i have to pay for the replacement keyboard as it came with the mac it's self. i tried getting key and the thing it sits on back on but no look. Ian McNamara From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 16:20:23 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:20:23 +0000 Subject: blue tooth keyboard that comes with Imac. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: your standard apple cover is 90 days, if you've purchased apple care it's 3 years. go back to your supplier regarding the problem and they should be able to replace it there and then with a new keyboard. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 16:17, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi all with my Imac i got a blue tooth keyboard which came standard with it. Basicly the uparrow key has broken off it and the thing that it sits on came off to. if i end up having to replace the keyboard will i have to pay for the replacement keyboard as it came with the mac it's self. > > i tried getting key and the thing it sits on back on but no look. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Dec 18 16:20:58 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:20:58 +0000 Subject: Top Ten list of tools and techniques I used to successfully complete my first college semester as a blind student In-Reply-To: References: <34CB20C1-276F-4211-8202-5EE672239492@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Thanks very much indeed Benjamin, I tried one or two of these frameworks under SL years ago but with no joy. I'll certainly look at this one thanks for passing it on. On 18 Dec 2011, at 16:06, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 3:26 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick > wrote: >> My preferred way to prepare presentations (and in fact most documents) is LaTex; and I know that James Austen also uses this with considerable success. Basically for those not familiar with it, you use a markup like HTML (relax people it's not the same just similar in idea) to prepare your document. > > FWIW you might try making slides in HTML and using a browser (perhaps > in full-screen mode) to present. There are various frameworks for > doing this; here's one: > > http://code.google.com/p/html5slides/ > > -- > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Dec 18 16:27:17 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:27:17 +0000 Subject: blue tooth keyboard that comes with Imac. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <393AE4BC-3370-4198-8696-6A659177628A@googlemail.com> Cool, I'll get a family member to have a look at it first to see if they can fix it for me if not it'll probly be a trip to the apple store during the week my brother is off work this week so he might take me there. Ian McNamara From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 16:29:41 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 17:29:41 +0100 Subject: got the voice to work on the iphone In-Reply-To: <0D02FC19-8BCB-4ED1-9BDA-C29BF0130507@gmail.com> References: <0D02FC19-8BCB-4ED1-9BDA-C29BF0130507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9C6ABFA5-D4B2-42AC-B03B-417B2E6F437C@gmail.com> Hi William, Getting more than one voice is pretty pointless, at least if you plan to use them all. While you can obtain them by switching regions or even language, they are not used later on by the rotor even if they still exist on the device. Also, several hours after not being used the voice promptly erases itself, so you have to re-download it if not in use. Regards, Nicolai On Dec 18, 2011, at 12:05 PM, william lomas wrote: > hi all I got the daniel premium voice to work on my iphone but if i want samamtha do I just change region? > or can I only get daniel > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 16:31:11 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:31:11 +0000 Subject: blue tooth keyboard that comes with Imac. In-Reply-To: <393AE4BC-3370-4198-8696-6A659177628A@googlemail.com> References: <393AE4BC-3370-4198-8696-6A659177628A@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <0329D742-69CD-4ABB-8FFA-49EF9D715E19@mac-access.net> I wouldn't advise tampering with it further, apple are very funny about replacing parts if the suplier feels that damage has ben done in the process of repair. the best thing is to leave it as it is and take it to your supplier who should replace it there and then. depending on where you purchased it that is. you won't need to take in the entire system, just the keyboard with your receipt. have you registered your product with apple online for support cover? lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 16:27, Ian McNamara wrote: > Cool, I'll get a family member to have a look at it first to see if they can fix it for me if not it'll probly be a trip to the apple store during the week my brother is off work this week so he might take me there. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Dec 18 16:40:46 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:40:46 +0000 Subject: blue tooth keyboard that comes with Imac. In-Reply-To: <0329D742-69CD-4ABB-8FFA-49EF9D715E19@mac-access.net> References: <393AE4BC-3370-4198-8696-6A659177628A@googlemail.com> <0329D742-69CD-4ABB-8FFA-49EF9D715E19@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <75232239-2B03-4CA5-B349-C2C2349551C1@googlemail.com> Hi yes i bought apple care with the Imac so that should not be a problem bought my mac from the apple store directly in birmingham so will take the keyboard there. will have to see if i have the box for the keyboard and find the receet. Ian McNamara From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 16:43:17 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:43:17 +0000 Subject: blue tooth keyboard that comes with Imac. In-Reply-To: <75232239-2B03-4CA5-B349-C2C2349551C1@googlemail.com> References: <393AE4BC-3370-4198-8696-6A659177628A@googlemail.com> <0329D742-69CD-4ABB-8FFA-49EF9D715E19@mac-access.net> <75232239-2B03-4CA5-B349-C2C2349551C1@googlemail.com> Message-ID: don't worry about the box. as long as you have the paperwork you're alright. you're in good hands. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 16:40, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi yes i bought apple care with the Imac so that should not be a problem bought my mac from the apple store directly in birmingham so will take the keyboard there. will have to see if i have the box for the keyboard and find the receet. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sun Dec 18 16:29:49 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:29:49 -0600 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com><026440F3-9A48-44D4-84E3-D291FEB68A42@gmail.com><2BACFBA47B4F476297BFFDCA9D8F00ED@your2c061f0461><93325ACA-6FBE-4508-AEA9-EDAD3B1FF92C@computing.dcu.ie><8C95BA205BCA4EC3A914FA4616FB2375@your2c061f0461><1DF07D7C-028B-4D7F-B7A5-5E0A90D6F4DF@gmail.com> <0LWE008KXICN2YF0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <771BB022E3054D688A5B7DC657E3BD77@your2c061f0461> It works fine on the iPhone 4, latest firmware. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Chao" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:19 AM Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder Interesting. Tried the facial thing on my 4s, and it's pretty amazing. Don't know about the iPhone 4 with iOS 5, though. Matthew Chao >Hmm that's interesting. maybe in a few years. >You never know. You just never know. >On Dec 17, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Glenn wrote: > > > I wonder if it will lead to facial recognition, so it will say mom on > > left > > and dad on right, for example. > > Glenn > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "D?nal Fitzpatrick" > > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:39 PM > > Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder > > > > > > Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets > > conference > > in Dundee which assisted blind photography. Hasn't been released yet > > but > > some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain. > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote: > > > >> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon > >> it > >> just as Bryan did. > >> Glenn > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Sarah Alawami" > >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM > >> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder > >> > >> > >> lol. I can hardly get that to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe > >> I'll > >> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s > >> then > >> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face > >> thing > >> and I hope it improves with time. > >> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Folks, > >>> > >>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't > >>> recall > >>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it > >>> completely > >>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. > >>> > >>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side > >>> and > >>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone > >>> camera > >>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera > >>> app > >>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and > >>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the > >>> back-facing > >>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap > >>> one > >>> of my standard off-center photos. > >>> > >>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near > >>> top > >>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small > >>> face, > >>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face > >>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, > >>> "One face, large face, face centered." > >>> > >>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. > >>> I > >>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. > >>> > >>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face > >>> but > >>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to > >>> be > >>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. > >>> > >>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Bryan > >>> > >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >>> > >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > >>> mac-access at mac-access.net > >>> > >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > >>> forum > >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >>> > >>> or at the public Mail Archive: > >>> . > >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >>> > >>> > >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > >>> virus > >>> and worm-free! > >>> > >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > >>> visiting > >>> the list website at: > >>> > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > >> mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > >> forum > >> at > >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >> > >> or at the public Mail Archive: > >> . > >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > >> virus > >> and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > >> visiting > >> the list website at: > >> > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > >> mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > >> forum > >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >> > >> or at the public Mail Archive: > >> . > >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > >> virus > >> and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership > options periodically by visiting > >> the list website at: > >> > > > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at > > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > > virus > > and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > > visiting > > the list website at: > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your > message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the > list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed > malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership > options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your >message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the >list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed >malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership >options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sun Dec 18 16:59:14 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:59:14 +0000 Subject: blue tooth keyboard that comes with Imac. In-Reply-To: References: <393AE4BC-3370-4198-8696-6A659177628A@googlemail.com> <0329D742-69CD-4ABB-8FFA-49EF9D715E19@mac-access.net> <75232239-2B03-4CA5-B349-C2C2349551C1@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <44645449-6061-42D8-A2B6-D640A8A344DC@virginmedia.com> Hi Ian! They are good in the bullring! Did you get a receipt sent by Email! If so just put it in a folder that you can access on your phone that will have all the info you need to take with you! Colin! On 18 Dec 2011, at 16:43, Lewis Alexander wrote: > don't worry about the box. as long as you have the paperwork you're alright. you're in good hands. > > lew > > On 18 Dec 2011, at 16:40, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> Hi yes i bought apple care with the Imac so that should not be a problem bought my mac from the apple store directly in birmingham so will take the keyboard there. will have to see if i have the box for the keyboard and find the receipt. >> >> Ian McNamara >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sun Dec 18 16:46:22 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:46:22 -0600 Subject: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder References: <35AC206D-A53D-454F-9165-DBA837346433@me.com><4EEDDF9E.8030706@gmail.com> <4EEDE0B1.1040204@gmail.com> Message-ID: You will need to turn on "grid" after that you go in the options when you go into camera. I noticed mine starting to do this after I did that. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Oliver" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:46 AM Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder I'd love to know how to do this. I tried but it wouldn't work. it'd certainly make taking pictures a good deal easier. On 18/12/2011 23:12, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: > hmm i have never had it do this. must try and see. > > interesting. > > Maria, Joe& Karly from Australia > > God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to > say good night. And the cross to say "I love you" > twitter bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > dj on www.powerradio104.us > join me on > www.tafn.org.uk > > > On 18/12/2011 8:20 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't >> recall knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it >> completely by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool. >> >> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left side >> and the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the >> iPhone camera at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the >> native camera app on my iphone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode >> with auto flash and back-facing camera, held it straight in front of >> me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general direction of my >> face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos. >> >> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near >> top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, >> small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO >> announce, "face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face >> and VO announced, "One face, large face, face centered." >> >> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. >> I also tried this in video mode but VO was silent. >> >> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face >> but could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't >> want to be part of this experiment and ran off somewhere. >> >> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. >> >> Cheers, >> Bryan >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 17:14:42 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:14:42 +0100 Subject: Top Ten list of tools and techniques I used to successfully complete my first college semester as a blind student In-Reply-To: References: <34CB20C1-276F-4211-8202-5EE672239492@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hi, I tend to use LaTeX as well. I'm obtaining a Computer Science Degree, of which UML (Unified Modeling Language) plays a massive role throughout all six semesters. Also, I was kind of forced into LaTeX, but it's actually really useful when you learn how. It also works for a lot of situations, such as UML since you have plenty of tools which plug into applications such as TeXShop, the LaTeX distribution for OS X. I haven't yet managed to use the edition, and wonder how useful it is going to be during teamwork, though I suspect it won't be as useful as it seems right now. I have a lot of doubts as to the style of the plugin. LaTeX is incredibly powerful, though, plugins aside. Even with the UML plugin, you can still draw diagrams. You just can't view those made by others, which is practically essential. Regards, Nicolai On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:20 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Thanks very much indeed Benjamin, I tried one or two of these frameworks under SL years ago but with no joy. I'll certainly look at this one thanks for passing it on. > On 18 Dec 2011, at 16:06, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 3:26 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick >> wrote: >>> My preferred way to prepare presentations (and in fact most documents) is LaTex; and I know that James Austen also uses this with considerable success. Basically for those not familiar with it, you use a markup like HTML (relax people it's not the same just similar in idea) to prepare your document. >> >> FWIW you might try making slides in HTML and using a browser (perhaps >> in full-screen mode) to present. There are various frameworks for >> doing this; here's one: >> >> http://code.google.com/p/html5slides/ >> >> -- >> Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Dec 18 17:22:45 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 17:22:45 +0000 Subject: blue tooth keyboard that comes with Imac. In-Reply-To: <44645449-6061-42D8-A2B6-D640A8A344DC@virginmedia.com> References: <393AE4BC-3370-4198-8696-6A659177628A@googlemail.com> <0329D742-69CD-4ABB-8FFA-49EF9D715E19@mac-access.net> <75232239-2B03-4CA5-B349-C2C2349551C1@googlemail.com> <44645449-6061-42D8-A2B6-D640A8A344DC@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <81DAD778-C462-4D3E-981D-E2FD3F68A03B@googlemail.com> hi thanks no i don't but i have the paperwork for my mac some where i think. On 18 Dec 2011, at 16:59, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Ian! > They are good in the bullring! > Did you get a receipt sent by Email! > If so just put it in a folder that you can access on your phone that will have all the info you need to take with you! > Colin! > > On 18 Dec 2011, at 16:43, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> don't worry about the box. as long as you have the paperwork you're alright. you're in good hands. >> >> lew >> >> On 18 Dec 2011, at 16:40, Ian McNamara wrote: >> >>> Hi yes i bought apple care with the Imac so that should not be a problem bought my mac from the apple store directly in birmingham so will take the keyboard there. will have to see if i have the box for the keyboard and find the receipt. >>> >>> Ian McNamara >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sun Dec 18 18:32:26 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 05:32:26 +1100 Subject: New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: <4EEDB326.5090504@gmail.com> References: <22C61C61-D226-4E41-89C7-6D8BCA20D7CD@mac-access.net> <4EEDB326.5090504@gmail.com> Message-ID: <82550473BBEC44839547BF3A2E7019A7@PaulaPC> Hahaha :) as long as there are spirits in the cupboard and things to mix them with, I'm happy. :) lol -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 8:32 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: New Member Welcome Hi Pula, There's beer in the fridge also, should you wish to partake. welcome to our ever growing community. On 18/12/2011 06:11, Lewis Alexander wrote: > Hi Pula, > > welcome to our inner sanctum. > > tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts. > > pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help. > > all the best and a merry christmas. > > lew > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne& Tracy wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: >> Paula Hobley >> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. >> >> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >> >> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS and Mac OS discussion forum. >> >> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or Donal FitzPatrick., and we will be happy to help you. >> >> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience. >> >> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >> >> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: >> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sun Dec 18 18:38:55 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 05:38:55 +1100 Subject: accessible FTP client In-Reply-To: References: <02D236E8D211474AB6B263F0F3378871@PaulaPC> Message-ID: Thanks for this Lynne, I will check out the link you sent. Cheers Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 1:54 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: accessible FTP client Hello Paula On 18 Dec 2011, at 00:37, Paula Hobley wrote: . I am looking for an accessible FTP client. I have tried Yummy FTP but I find it hard to use. Does anybody have any suggestions? You'd be better of with Panic Transmit. You can find it here: It's fully accessible and easy to use. I hope that helps. Lynne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sun Dec 18 18:39:49 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 05:39:49 +1100 Subject: accessible FTP client In-Reply-To: <9E11076E-A0D1-4F6B-AD25-7E966B518F40@mac-access.net> References: <02D236E8D211474AB6B263F0F3378871@PaulaPC><0A20C3C75993416BACFF7D43C6ED86AA@karen796b6a58c><8CD7A5D7-FD0E-4F9B-B823-615411C504F2@bigpond.com><70AF95A1-0CA3-415A-8485-EDF486C7FE3E@gmail.com><551CF5E7-D840-4C2A-8A5C-67AC0BA2E3F3@bigpond.com><5B598D1B-6240-400B-B4B1-961E22C75380@mac-access.net> <9E11076E-A0D1-4F6B-AD25-7E966B518F40@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thanks Lew, I don't regularly work with ftp survers, just need to access one every now and then. I will check out your suggestion. Cheers Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 2:03 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: accessible FTP client Hi Paula, cyberduck is a great free alternative which I quite like for data on the fly. I use this and another solution for corporate use for server work and love cyberduck. Transmit is a decent package and worth the money if you're regularly working with FTP sites and servers. Lew Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sun Dec 18 18:41:43 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 05:41:43 +1100 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone Message-ID: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> Hi there I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response time becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps from my app switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? Thanks for your help. Cheers Paula From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 18:53:38 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:53:38 +0000 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> Message-ID: double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings up app switcher. to clear apps, do the following: tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap until you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then double tap to remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button to clear app switcher. WARNING! at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, the only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the only way to do this. the symptoms of this are as follows: within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and repeat, even when docked into itunes or charging. SOLUTION: in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup the contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and are copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this instance, the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS from scratch. if you encounter problems, please email freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net and I will assist directly. hope this helps. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi there > > I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response time > becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps from my app > switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? > > Thanks for your help. > > Cheers > > Paula Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sun Dec 18 18:56:29 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:56:29 -0600 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> Message-ID: Hi Paula, double-tap the home key, and the app switcher will come up. If you are using VoiceOver;: double-tap and hold the second tap on one of the apps, and it will say "editing apps". Then double-tap them one at a time, and one at a time they will close, you will be done when it says something like: "there are no more apps to show" and the only option left is to close app switcher. Then restart the phone. HTH. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Hobley" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:41 PM Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone Hi there I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response time becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps from my app switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? Thanks for your help. Cheers Paula <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sun Dec 18 19:03:59 2011 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:03:59 +1100 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I don't think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that technical. Cheers Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings up app switcher. to clear apps, do the following: tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap until you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then double tap to remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button to clear app switcher. WARNING! at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, the only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the only way to do this. the symptoms of this are as follows: within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and repeat, even when docked into itunes or charging. SOLUTION: in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup the contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and are copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this instance, the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS from scratch. if you encounter problems, please email freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net and I will assist directly. hope this helps. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi there > > I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response time > becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps from my app > switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? > > Thanks for your help. > > Cheers > > Paula Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 19:06:18 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:06:18 +0000 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <6107E0E7-7662-4ECB-B149-2D640A698B44@mac-access.net> anyone can do it. it's that simple. it's unattended. voiceover walks you through everything.. anyway, we're on hand to advise. I advise to leave the main apps running. phone, messages, system preferences, etc on hand. deleting all will cause this crash. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:03, Paula Hobley wrote: > Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I don't > think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that technical. > > Cheers > > Paula > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander > Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone > > double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings up app > switcher. > > to clear apps, do the following: > > tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap until > you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then double tap to > remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button to clear app > switcher. > > WARNING! > > at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications > (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, the > only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the only way to > do this. > > the symptoms of this are as follows: > > within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and repeat, > even when docked into itunes or charging. > > SOLUTION: > > in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup the > contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and are > copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this instance, > the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS from scratch. > > if you encounter problems, please email freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net > and I will assist directly. > > hope this helps. > > lew > > On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Hi there >> >> I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response time >> becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps from my > app >> switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR > FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to > help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From zkline at speedpost.net Sun Dec 18 19:07:24 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 11:07:24 -0800 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <2A086B22-BB53-4A10-A1D0-6226986D36C2@speedpost.net> Hi Lew and Paula, May I ask what apps you refer to? I've been using iOS 5 since early developer betas and have yet to encounter anything like this. At worst, I have encountered a rebooting device, which is no problem and doesn't bother me for more than a few seconds. Best, Zack. On Dec 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Paula Hobley wrote: > Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I don't > think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that technical. > > Cheers > > Paula > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander > Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone > > double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings up app > switcher. > > to clear apps, do the following: > > tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap until > you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then double tap to > remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button to clear app > switcher. > > WARNING! > > at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications > (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, the > only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the only way to > do this. > > the symptoms of this are as follows: > > within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and repeat, > even when docked into itunes or charging. > > SOLUTION: > > in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup the > contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and are > copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this instance, > the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS from scratch. > > if you encounter problems, please email freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net > and I will assist directly. > > hope this helps. > > lew > > On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Hi there >> >> I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response time >> becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps from my > app >> switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR > FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to > help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 19:11:19 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:11:19 +0000 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: <2A086B22-BB53-4A10-A1D0-6226986D36C2@speedpost.net> References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> <2A086B22-BB53-4A10-A1D0-6226986D36C2@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <5A3A5B0E-E918-445A-9A5C-B7ACD2BDA6CF@mac-access.net> Hi zack, I too am on dev with apple on this, I don't want to appear too tech on here to frighten users. basically, there's a glitch within the user layer of IOS5 which seems to have popped up in 5.01 possibly where if all apps have been killed in app switcher, IOS encounters a background crash. no errors given on device, instead, silence, reboots, voiceover becomes buggy at startup, runs fine, then about 4 to 5 mins later it repeats and continues. kind of like you would have a cyclic redundancy crash in windows XP as an example due to a hardware fault. I've sent info to apple on this as I cover my back all the time. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:07, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Lew and Paula, > May I ask what apps you refer to? I've been using iOS 5 since early developer betas and have yet to encounter anything like this. At worst, I have encountered a rebooting device, which is no problem and doesn't bother me for more than a few seconds. > Best, > Zack. > On Dec 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I don't >> think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that technical. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander >> Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone >> >> double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings up app >> switcher. >> >> to clear apps, do the following: >> >> tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap until >> you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then double tap to >> remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button to clear app >> switcher. >> >> WARNING! >> >> at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications >> (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, the >> only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the only way to >> do this. >> >> the symptoms of this are as follows: >> >> within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and repeat, >> even when docked into itunes or charging. >> >> SOLUTION: >> >> in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup the >> contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and are >> copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this instance, >> the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS from scratch. >> >> if you encounter problems, please email freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net >> and I will assist directly. >> >> hope this helps. >> >> lew >> >> On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: >> >>> Hi there >>> >>> I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response time >>> becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps from my >> app >>> switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paula >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working >> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR >> FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a >> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to >> help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sun Dec 18 19:13:57 2011 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:13:57 -0600 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> Message-ID: I would not worry about that, just do it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Hobley" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 1:03 PM Subject: RE: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I don't think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that technical. Cheers Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings up app switcher. to clear apps, do the following: tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap until you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then double tap to remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button to clear app switcher. WARNING! at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, the only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the only way to do this. the symptoms of this are as follows: within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and repeat, even when docked into itunes or charging. SOLUTION: in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup the contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and are copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this instance, the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS from scratch. if you encounter problems, please email freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net and I will assist directly. hope this helps. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi there > > I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response time > becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps from my app > switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? > > Thanks for your help. > > Cheers > > Paula Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 19:12:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 11:12:57 -0800 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: <5A3A5B0E-E918-445A-9A5C-B7ACD2BDA6CF@mac-access.net> References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> <2A086B22-BB53-4A10-A1D0-6226986D36C2@speedpost.net> <5A3A5B0E-E918-445A-9A5C-B7ACD2BDA6CF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <459A7E32-59CC-4ECC-A995-4B7D92AAC35C@gmail.com> > yeah. I just remove apps every night before I go to sleep or am about to reboot or reset the spring board and I can if I probably want to remove them in my sleep lol! You cannot hurt your phone by trying this. Vo will as someone said guide you through the steps if you have your hints on. On Dec 18, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > Hi zack, I too am on dev with apple on this, > > I don't want to appear too tech on here to frighten users. basically, there's a glitch within the user layer of IOS5 which seems to have popped up in 5.01 possibly where if all apps have been killed in app switcher, IOS encounters a background crash. no errors given on device, instead, silence, reboots, voiceover becomes buggy at startup, runs fine, then about 4 to 5 mins later it repeats and continues. kind of like you would have a cyclic redundancy crash in windows XP as an example due to a hardware fault. > > I've sent info to apple on this as I cover my back all the time. > > lew > > On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:07, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Lew and Paula, >> May I ask what apps you refer to? I've been using iOS 5 since early developer betas and have yet to encounter anything like this. At worst, I have encountered a rebooting device, which is no problem and doesn't bother me for more than a few seconds. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Dec 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Paula Hobley wrote: >> >>> Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I don't >>> think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that technical. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paula >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander >>> Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone >>> >>> double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings up app >>> switcher. >>> >>> to clear apps, do the following: >>> >>> tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap until >>> you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then double tap to >>> remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button to clear app >>> switcher. >>> >>> WARNING! >>> >>> at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications >>> (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, the >>> only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the only way to >>> do this. >>> >>> the symptoms of this are as follows: >>> >>> within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and repeat, >>> even when docked into itunes or charging. >>> >>> SOLUTION: >>> >>> in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup the >>> contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and are >>> copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this instance, >>> the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS from scratch. >>> >>> if you encounter problems, please email freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net >>> and I will assist directly. >>> >>> hope this helps. >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there >>>> >>>> I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response time >>>> becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps from my >>> app >>>> switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Paula >>> >>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net >>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >>> >>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working >>> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR >>> FREE! >>> >>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a >>> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >>> >>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to >>> help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>> http://www.mac-access.net >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 19:13:10 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:13:10 +0000 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <14C0891D-B67A-4EAB-ADBB-B689BEE1C858@mac-access.net> if you are going to delete apps from app switcher, please leave the following apps resident... phone, messages, system preferences, camera. these seem to be used most and should be kept there for safety sake. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:13, Glenn wrote: > I would not worry about that, just do it. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paula Hobley" > To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 1:03 PM > Subject: RE: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone > > > Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I don't > think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that technical. > > Cheers > > Paula > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander > Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone > > double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings up app > switcher. > > to clear apps, do the following: > > tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap until > you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then double tap to > remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button to clear app > switcher. > > WARNING! > > at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications > (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, the > only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the only way to > do this. > > the symptoms of this are as follows: > > within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and repeat, > even when docked into itunes or charging. > > SOLUTION: > > in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup the > contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and are > copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this instance, > the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS from scratch. > > if you encounter problems, please email freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net > and I will assist directly. > > hope this helps. > > lew > > On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Hi there >> >> I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response time >> becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps from my > app >> switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR > FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to > help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 19:23:09 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:23:09 -0500 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <002101ccbdba$7aaf5760$700e0620$@gmail.com> Yes, and make sure you do it from one of the home pages as this makes sure that all apps are in the switcher! If you have one running in the foreground it will not be in the app switcher if you just go to the app switcher without going to a home page ! JST Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 1:56 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone Hi Paula, double-tap the home key, and the app switcher will come up. If you are using VoiceOver;: double-tap and hold the second tap on one of the apps, and it will say "editing apps". Then double-tap them one at a time, and one at a time they will close, you will be done when it says something like: "there are no more apps to show" and the only option left is to close app switcher. Then restart the phone. HTH. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Hobley" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:41 PM Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone Hi there I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response time becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps from my app switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? Thanks for your help. Cheers Paula <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 19:25:55 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:25:55 +0000 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: <002101ccbdba$7aaf5760$700e0620$@gmail.com> References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <002101ccbdba$7aaf5760$700e0620$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C099E7-8E1E-41A8-A44A-D94C863AE633@mac-access.net> Good point there. I forgot to highlight that. oops well that's what happens when I'm hurrying around lol. mind on all sorts of things. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:23, Bubba wrote: > Yes, and make sure you do it from one of the home pages as this makes sure > that all apps are in the switcher! If you have one running in the foreground > it will not be in the app switcher if you just go to the app switcher > without going to a home page ! JST > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 19:27:27 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:27:27 -0500 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: <6107E0E7-7662-4ECB-B149-2D640A698B44@mac-access.net> References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> <6107E0E7-7662-4ECB-B149-2D640A698B44@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <002201ccbdbb$14c7bc70$3e573550$@gmail.com> I have never had a crash with my iPhone for just removing app from the app switcher! But I am using the iphone3gs with the latest IOS! So don't know this might be phone pacific if having crashing from doing this. Who has had crashing doing this and what device was you using ? For example: iphone3gs, iphone4, iphone4s or Ipad 1 or ipad2 or IPod touch ! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:06 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone anyone can do it. it's that simple. it's unattended. voiceover walks you through everything.. anyway, we're on hand to advise. I advise to leave the main apps running. phone, messages, system preferences, etc on hand. deleting all will cause this crash. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:03, Paula Hobley wrote: > Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I > don't think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that technical. > > Cheers > > Paula > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis > Alexander > Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone > > double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings > up app switcher. > > to clear apps, do the following: > > tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap > until you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then > double tap to remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button > to clear app switcher. > > WARNING! > > at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications > (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, > the only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the > only way to do this. > > the symptoms of this are as follows: > > within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and > repeat, even when docked into itunes or charging. > > SOLUTION: > > in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup > the contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and > are copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this > instance, the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS from scratch. > > if you encounter problems, please email > freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net > and I will assist directly. > > hope this helps. > > lew > > On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Hi there >> >> I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response >> time becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps >> from my > app >> switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but > working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout > the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc > or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here > to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 19:31:17 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:31:17 +0000 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: <002201ccbdbb$14c7bc70$3e573550$@gmail.com> References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> <6107E0E7-7662-4ECB-B149-2D640A698B44@mac-access.net> <002201ccbdbb$14c7bc70$3e573550$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <097F3BD7-9D5D-4F7B-96BE-475C532432F9@mac-access.net> bubba, that's me. hence my advice. I use an iphone 3GS 16GB with IOS5.01 and every so often when clearing apps am presented with a crash situation. hence checking with XCODE and checking layers, code, etc. the thing about technology is that an error, glitch, malfunction can occur on any 1 product at any time at all, whether caused by a direct action or an indirect action. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:27, Bubba wrote: > I have never had a crash with my iPhone for just removing app from the app > switcher! But I am using the iphone3gs with the latest IOS! So don't know > this might be phone pacific if having crashing from doing this. Who has had > crashing doing this and what device was you using ? For example: iphone3gs, > iphone4, iphone4s or Ipad 1 or ipad2 or IPod touch ! > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:06 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone > > anyone can do it. it's that simple. it's unattended. > > voiceover walks you through everything.. anyway, we're on hand to advise. > > I advise to leave the main apps running. phone, messages, system > preferences, etc on hand. deleting all will cause this crash. > > lew > > On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:03, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I >> don't think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that > technical. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis >> Alexander >> Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone >> >> double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings >> up app switcher. >> >> to clear apps, do the following: >> >> tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap >> until you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then >> double tap to remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button >> to clear app switcher. >> >> WARNING! >> >> at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications >> (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, >> the only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the >> only way to do this. >> >> the symptoms of this are as follows: >> >> within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and >> repeat, even when docked into itunes or charging. >> >> SOLUTION: >> >> in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup >> the contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and >> are copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this >> instance, the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS > from scratch. >> >> if you encounter problems, please email >> freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net >> and I will assist directly. >> >> hope this helps. >> >> lew >> >> On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: >> >>> Hi there >>> >>> I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response >>> time becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps >>> from my >> app >>> switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paula >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 >> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but >> working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout >> the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc >> or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in > touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here >> to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. 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Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 19:34:53 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:34:53 -0500 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: <2A086B22-BB53-4A10-A1D0-6226986D36C2@speedpost.net> References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> <2A086B22-BB53-4A10-A1D0-6226986D36C2@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <002301ccbdbc$1e92cbe0$5bb863a0$@gmail.com> Hi, that is what I was saying in my previous message that I had never had this to happen! I have the iphone3gs with the latest IOS as of now and the Ipad1 and never had this happen! I just wondering if this is device pacific like on the iphone3gs, iphone4, iphone4s or ipad1, ipad2 or iPod touch or any of these devices with a JB? This would narrow it down a little bit as I have had no one else say this on this list or other list! JST Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:07 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone Hi Lew and Paula, May I ask what apps you refer to? I've been using iOS 5 since early developer betas and have yet to encounter anything like this. At worst, I have encountered a rebooting device, which is no problem and doesn't bother me for more than a few seconds. Best, Zack. On Dec 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Paula Hobley wrote: > Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I > don't think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that technical. > > Cheers > > Paula > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis > Alexander > Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone > > double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings > up app switcher. > > to clear apps, do the following: > > tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap > until you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then > double tap to remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button > to clear app switcher. > > WARNING! > > at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications > (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, > the only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the > only way to do this. > > the symptoms of this are as follows: > > within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and > repeat, even when docked into itunes or charging. > > SOLUTION: > > in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup > the contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and > are copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this > instance, the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS from scratch. > > if you encounter problems, please email > freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net > and I will assist directly. > > hope this helps. > > lew > > On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Hi there >> >> I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response >> time becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps >> from my > app >> switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but > working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout > the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc > or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here > to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 19:35:46 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:35:46 -0500 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: <097F3BD7-9D5D-4F7B-96BE-475C532432F9@mac-access.net> References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> <6107E0E7-7662-4ECB-B149-2D640A698B44@mac-access.net> <002201ccbdbb$14c7bc70$3e573550$@gmail.com> <097F3BD7-9D5D-4F7B-96BE-475C532432F9@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <002401ccbdbc$3df6fd80$b9e4f880$@gmail.com> Are you JB ? Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:31 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone bubba, that's me. hence my advice. I use an iphone 3GS 16GB with IOS5.01 and every so often when clearing apps am presented with a crash situation. hence checking with XCODE and checking layers, code, etc. the thing about technology is that an error, glitch, malfunction can occur on any 1 product at any time at all, whether caused by a direct action or an indirect action. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:27, Bubba wrote: > I have never had a crash with my iPhone for just removing app from the > app switcher! But I am using the iphone3gs with the latest IOS! So > don't know this might be phone pacific if having crashing from doing > this. Who has had crashing doing this and what device was you using ? > For example: iphone3gs, iphone4, iphone4s or Ipad 1 or ipad2 or IPod touch ! > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis > Alexander > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:06 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone > > anyone can do it. it's that simple. it's unattended. > > voiceover walks you through everything.. anyway, we're on hand to advise. > > I advise to leave the main apps running. phone, messages, system > preferences, etc on hand. deleting all will cause this crash. > > lew > > On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:03, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I >> don't think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that > technical. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis >> Alexander >> Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone >> >> double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings >> up app switcher. >> >> to clear apps, do the following: >> >> tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd >> tap until you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. >> then double tap to remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu >> button to clear app switcher. >> >> WARNING! >> >> at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications >> (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this >> happens, the only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this >> is the only way to do this. >> >> the symptoms of this are as follows: >> >> within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and >> repeat, even when docked into itunes or charging. >> >> SOLUTION: >> >> in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to >> backup the contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in >> iTunes and are copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note >> that in this instance, the reset will completely erase the iphone and >> install the OS > from scratch. >> >> if you encounter problems, please email >> freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net >> and I will assist directly. >> >> hope this helps. >> >> lew >> >> On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: >> >>> Hi there >>> >>> I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the >>> response time becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to >>> remove apps from my >> app >>> switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paula >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 >> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but >> working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout >> the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, >> etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please >> get in > touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here >> to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting > the list website at: >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but > working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout > the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc > or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here > to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 19:37:31 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:37:31 +0000 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: <002301ccbdbc$1e92cbe0$5bb863a0$@gmail.com> References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> <2A086B22-BB53-4A10-A1D0-6226986D36C2@speedpost.net> <002301ccbdbc$1e92cbe0$5bb863a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <961BD53A-D898-4A50-880E-4C69B1699CF7@mac-access.net> it would be handy to have a few of these systems available to run a schematic test, run the same function and let it take its course. my phone is pretty much standard, no extra apps, tweaks, etc. just standard as I only use it as my phone, messages, etc. wifi turned off by default, bluetooth off by default to save power and data. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:34, Bubba wrote: > Hi, that is what I was saying in my previous message that I had never had > this to happen! I have the iphone3gs with the latest IOS as of now and the > Ipad1 and never had this happen! I just wondering if this is device pacific > like on the iphone3gs, iphone4, iphone4s or ipad1, ipad2 or iPod touch or > any of these devices with a JB? This would narrow it down a little bit as I > have had no one else say this on this list or other list! JST > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:07 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone > > Hi Lew and Paula, > May I ask what apps you refer to? I've been using iOS 5 since early > developer betas and have yet to encounter anything like this. At worst, I > have encountered a rebooting device, which is no problem and doesn't bother > me for more than a few seconds. > Best, > Zack. > On Dec 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Paula Hobley wrote: > >> Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I >> don't think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that > technical. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis >> Alexander >> Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone >> >> double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings >> up app switcher. >> >> to clear apps, do the following: >> >> tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap >> until you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then >> double tap to remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button >> to clear app switcher. >> >> WARNING! >> >> at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications >> (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, >> the only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the >> only way to do this. >> >> the symptoms of this are as follows: >> >> within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and >> repeat, even when docked into itunes or charging. >> >> SOLUTION: >> >> in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup >> the contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and >> are copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this >> instance, the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS > from scratch. >> >> if you encounter problems, please email >> freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net >> and I will assist directly. >> >> hope this helps. >> >> lew >> >> On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: >> >>> Hi there >>> >>> I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response >>> time becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps >>> from my >> app >>> switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paula >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 >> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but >> working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout >> the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc >> or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in > touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here >> to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 19:37:32 2011 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:37:32 -0500 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <002501ccbdbc$7d4e8160$77eb8420$@gmail.com> Yes, just do it nothing to worry about you can always do a restore and get it back to factory setup! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:14 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone I would not worry about that, just do it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Hobley" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 1:03 PM Subject: RE: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I don't think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that technical. Cheers Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings up app switcher. to clear apps, do the following: tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd tap until you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. then double tap to remove it. After you have done so, tap the menu button to clear app switcher. WARNING! at this time in IOS5, there is an OS error where certain applications (memory resident) if quit, will cause a cyclic crash. if this happens, the only way to do this is a full on reset from itunes. this is the only way to do this. the symptoms of this are as follows: within the space of 5 minutes, the iphone will crash, restart and repeat, even when docked into itunes or charging. SOLUTION: in iTunes, commence a full reset, before this, it is advised to backup the contents of your phone. if your ringtones are stored in iTunes and are copied to the iphone then this is fine, Please note that in this instance, the reset will completely erase the iphone and install the OS from scratch. if you encounter problems, please email freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net and I will assist directly. hope this helps. lew On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:41, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi there > > I am using the IPhone 3GS. I am finding, after a while, the response time > becomes slow. Could somebody please tell me how to remove apps from my app > switcher, and actually, how do you access the app switcher? > > Thanks for your help. > > Cheers > > Paula Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsforthebind at mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net Sun Dec 18 19:38:01 2011 From: freemacsfortheblind at mac-access.net (Lewis Alexander) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:38:01 +0000 Subject: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone In-Reply-To: <002401ccbdbc$3df6fd80$b9e4f880$@gmail.com> References: <9C9CAD3F8CE84795A4AF54266D681BC8@PaulaPC> <65C349C3105A40EBBC4A78C252161B1C@PaulaPC> <6107E0E7-7662-4ECB-B149-2D640A698B44@mac-access.net> <002201ccbdbb$14c7bc70$3e573550$@gmail.com> <097F3BD7-9D5D-4F7B-96BE-475C532432F9@mac-access.net> <002401ccbdbc$3df6fd80$b9e4f880$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8BDB120D-2343-409B-8B07-F265858132C3@mac-access.net> JB? as in jail broken? no. On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:35, Bubba wrote: > Are you JB ? > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:31 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone > > bubba, that's me. hence my advice. I use an iphone 3GS 16GB with IOS5.01 and > every so often when clearing apps am presented with a crash situation. > > hence checking with XCODE and checking layers, code, etc. > > the thing about technology is that an error, glitch, malfunction can occur > on any 1 product at any time at all, whether caused by a direct action or an > indirect action. > > lew > > On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:27, Bubba wrote: > >> I have never had a crash with my iPhone for just removing app from the >> app switcher! But I am using the iphone3gs with the latest IOS! So >> don't know this might be phone pacific if having crashing from doing >> this. Who has had crashing doing this and what device was you using ? >> For example: iphone3gs, iphone4, iphone4s or Ipad 1 or ipad2 or IPod touch > ! >> >> >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis >> Alexander >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:06 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone >> >> anyone can do it. it's that simple. it's unattended. >> >> voiceover walks you through everything.. anyway, we're on hand to advise. >> >> I advise to leave the main apps running. phone, messages, system >> preferences, etc on hand. deleting all will cause this crash. >> >> lew >> >> On 18 Dec 2011, at 19:03, Paula Hobley wrote: >> >>> Thanks for that Glenn and Lew, I'm a bit scared to remove apps now, I >>> don't think I could rectify an IPhone crash. I don't think I'm that >> technical. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paula >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis >>> Alexander >>> Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 5:54 AM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone >>> >>> double tap the menu button at the bottom of your iphone, this brings >>> up app switcher. >>> >>> to clear apps, do the following: >>> >>> tap the app once for it's name then double tap but hold on the 2nd >>> tap until you hear "Editing Apps" . a sound effect is also played. >>>