From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 00:59:52 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:59:52 -0800 Subject: Email on the I-pod In-Reply-To: References: <723061BB-DB45-44DC-A372-07A7A4BFE8DA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Actually you hit edit on the right hand side from with in the folder, double tap each message you want to del and on the bottom left is delete x where x is the number of messages you selected. S On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:15 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Michael, > On 31 Jan 2011, at 22:49, Michael Weaver wrote: >> Is there an easy way of deleting email on the I-phone? > > Do you an is there any way to delete more than one message at a time, I'm not sure. But to delete an E-Mail, I'm guessing it's the same as deleting a text message. On the top of the screen, possibly on the left hand-side, you should find an "edit" button. If you press this, then you'll be able to select the messages you want to delete by tapping the "mark for deletion" button which is at the far left of each message. This can sometimes be difficult to find, but it is there. > > After you've pressed the delete button, you can then move across to the right hand-side and you'll find a button asking you to confirm your choice. At least that is how it is with text messages. > > Hope this helps . > > Take care :) > > James >> Is there an easy way of deleting email on the I-phone? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Feb 1 01:30:14 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 01:30:14 +0000 Subject: Safari + VO Message-ID: <4F7A1C5E-5AFF-4AFA-91A0-3E56DED7296C@blueyonder.co.uk> This is what I have just sent to Apple, and I would be interested if anyone else has experienced this or has any knowledge of why Safari and VO do this: Hi there, I have been doing some comparisons of using screen readers on a major supermarket in the UK. Tesco are huge in the UK and Europe and have a wonderful website which enables customers to order products and have them delivered. I used to think Safari and VO acted strangely at times when using this site as there seemed to be more links or headings within the web page when tabbing around or navigating via the keyboards shortcuts (VO + command + H for example) than the rota would announce. I would then double check that the rota was giving the correct information by asking VO to tell me the summary of the web page statistics. When using JAWS and System Access I noticed that those screen readers informed me that there was twice as many headers and links on the web page than VO would lead you to believe. I then opened up the HTML source code and double checked for myself and indeed this was correct. I then started to notice this on other websites. Why does VO not report to the rota of every header and link? Yet, if you tab or go through the web page by header and link etc you come across all links and headers. Are you aware of this bug? I think this is a major serious flaw on Apple's part as it provides misleading information and could potentially be hiding content the viewer may think is important. I also wonder if the find feature within VO also misses this information too. I hope Apple investigate and fix this serious flaw. Chris From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 01:56:42 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:56:42 -0600 Subject: iWork content viewing Message-ID: <352EE9B3-7768-4021-BB17-40133F2278B4@gmail.com> I've been attempting to use iWOrk, and I do say attempting. I've found a variety of issues with viewing content, not even getting into content producing yet. In VoiceOver On most recent, episode 6, I demonstrate Pages, Numbers and KeyNote. I've found a variety of issues, which I think are better detailed in a demonstration and discussion. http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com Please have a listen, provide feedback, specifically on content with suggestions, ideas or work-arounds. Note: content refers to Apple Mac OS X iWork with VoiceOver. THanks, Kevin From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 02:01:03 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:01:03 -0600 Subject: Pages: Formatting Message-ID: <64A07A79-44C2-49D1-BD60-2010F1244315@gmail.com> With a pages document, I tried changing a paragraph style , from body to heading 1. I went about this two different ways, via inspector and styles drawer. Unfortunately, seems that both methods did not change paragraph style. I made a few bullets and links, where VoiceOver didn't announce the presence of bullets or links when arrowing up/down. When reviewing line, which contains link by word, VoiceOver skipped over a word in link. Tips, ideas and/or suggestions are welcome. Kevin From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 02:06:55 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:06:55 -0800 Subject: Safari + VO In-Reply-To: <4F7A1C5E-5AFF-4AFA-91A0-3E56DED7296C@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <4F7A1C5E-5AFF-4AFA-91A0-3E56DED7296C@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <29F4A9BB-2F88-4956-9E6E-90009248737E@gmail.com> I've noticed that as well. One good example is www.applevis.com which is written in druple or how ever that is spelled. S On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > This is what I have just sent to Apple, and I would be interested if anyone else has experienced this or has any knowledge of why Safari and VO do this: > > Hi there, > > I have been doing some comparisons of using screen readers on a major supermarket in the UK. Tesco are huge in the UK and Europe and have a wonderful website which enables customers to order products and have them delivered. I used to think Safari and VO acted strangely at times when using this site as there seemed to be more links or headings within the web page when tabbing around or navigating via the keyboards shortcuts (VO + command + H for example) than the rota would announce. I would then double check that the rota was giving the correct information by asking VO to tell me the summary of the web page statistics. > > When using JAWS and System Access I noticed that those screen readers informed me that there was twice as many headers and links on the web page than VO would lead you to believe. I then opened up the HTML source code and double checked for myself and indeed this was correct. > > I then started to notice this on other websites. > > Why does VO not report to the rota of every header and link? Yet, if you tab or go through the web page by header and link etc you come across all links and headers. > > Are you aware of this bug? I think this is a major serious flaw on Apple's part as it provides misleading information and could potentially be hiding content the viewer may think is important. I also wonder if the find feature within VO also misses this information too. > > I hope Apple investigate and fix this serious flaw. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Tue Feb 1 04:08:33 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:08:33 -0500 Subject: listening to radio readingg services on the mac In-Reply-To: <10422B46-6931-48B0-9A94-82096F2E5915@gmail.com> References: <3AF6A2F6-5900-4F6C-8743-5A668158ADA6@insightbb.com> <10422B46-6931-48B0-9A94-82096F2E5915@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Sarah, is I Blink radio written all together and is it dot org or com? Thank you in advance. Bill Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Tue Feb 1 04:18:46 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:18:46 -0500 Subject: listening to radio readingg services on the mac In-Reply-To: <10422B46-6931-48B0-9A94-82096F2E5915@gmail.com> References: <3AF6A2F6-5900-4F6C-8743-5A668158ADA6@insightbb.com> <10422B46-6931-48B0-9A94-82096F2E5915@gmail.com> Message-ID: <16B4D8D1-A57A-48ED-8A5B-B31624A4072D@insightbb.com> Hi Sarah, I did a google search and found I blink radio for I phones and another down load for I blink radio but it said download I tunes is there a way you can listen to it with out having to download I Tunes. since I already have it on the mac? Thank you in advance. Bill deatherage From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 06:34:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:34:47 -0800 Subject: Apple Rejects 'Sony Reader' From App Store, 'Kindle' Removal Next?: Message-ID: <23C73EB0-F8B2-485F-8C43-199074A7EBBB@gmail.com> Will thi raise prices for books and other EContent? read on: http://bit.ly/hGttlx From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 06:34:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:34:47 -0800 Subject: Apple Rejects 'Sony Reader' From App Store, 'Kindle' Removal Next?: Message-ID: <23C73EB0-F8B2-485F-8C43-199074A7EBBB@gmail.com> Will thi raise prices for books and other EContent? read on: http://bit.ly/hGttlx From weavermicha at googlemail.com Tue Feb 1 06:52:13 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 06:52:13 +0000 Subject: syncing email accounts Message-ID: <4d47ad42.cafdd80a.7439.420c@mx.google.com> i deleted my google account from the settings on my i-phone because i thought i might be getting too much email to be able to delete it all as i am on a few mailinglists. however when i reconnected my i-phone to my mac, my google account didn't appear. how do i syc the settings? i have tabbed through the settings for my i-phone but cannot find the important settings. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 07:09:26 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:09:26 -0800 Subject: Verizon iPhone Qualcomm baseband, Netgear CEO apologizes, Apple looking for more LTE engineers Message-ID: <1C2B7AAB-A917-493E-BB47-FEC30DAD717E@gmail.com> Looks like apple and others have been doing a lot this week. read on: http://dlvr.it/FX52L From support at mac-access.net Tue Feb 1 08:58:54 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:58:54 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <655B4E0C-E9AE-4D88-A374-8CA36FD8AC92@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Kevin Chao to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 09:06:44 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:06:44 +0100 Subject: Safari + VO In-Reply-To: <29F4A9BB-2F88-4956-9E6E-90009248737E@gmail.com> References: <4F7A1C5E-5AFF-4AFA-91A0-3E56DED7296C@blueyonder.co.uk> <29F4A9BB-2F88-4956-9E6E-90009248737E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <34CE8533-3E18-4C8A-8DB9-1F584AE90E58@gmail.com> Hi, Actually, I have not really seen any issues with Drupal or Applevis. Also, check the consistency of the source code. How is everything coded? Are some links created differently, such as with a different style? Etc. VoiceOVer does have a couple of elements which are not recognized. These you can interact with and view the contents that you may be missing, however, it is not always obvious when to do this as VoiceOVer does not think you can interact with them. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 09:31:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 01:31:18 -0800 Subject: Safari + VO In-Reply-To: <34CE8533-3E18-4C8A-8DB9-1F584AE90E58@gmail.com> References: <4F7A1C5E-5AFF-4AFA-91A0-3E56DED7296C@blueyonder.co.uk> <29F4A9BB-2F88-4956-9E6E-90009248737E@gmail.com> <34CE8533-3E18-4C8A-8DB9-1F584AE90E58@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've seen this in klango as well. the rotor won't see certain links but the list chooser and the arrowing will. I don't really want to brows code at the moment as I'm very tired but you bring up some good points. On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:06 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Actually, I have not really seen any issues with Drupal or Applevis. > > Also, check the consistency of the source code. How is everything coded? Are some links created differently, such as with a different style? Etc. VoiceOVer does have a couple of elements which are not recognized. These you can interact with and view the contents that you may be missing, however, it is not always obvious when to do this as VoiceOVer does not think you can interact with them. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Tue Feb 1 11:04:21 2011 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:04:21 +0000 Subject: Voice over and Adobe pdfs In-Reply-To: References: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <986174F9-DF2E-4980-ADFD-B994BAF91744@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <93326DE6-7981-4C13-8F53-1E20A4AE5B6D@blueyonder.co.uk> <47494878-4C1E-4DDE-B2B7-3908D92CFE00@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <124E9376-ECD7-40C9-98B2-EB1B7223295E@mac.com> <4614E808-5B8F-4669-A57A-18470BCAD267@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <0930499A-C900-4A01-8A3C-E50806D1DB28@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Hi, No, I don't think so. It is a set of legal documents. It may well be protected. I think my company would pay for a conversion product if there is one out there. Any suggestions as this is really not a slick experience. Regards Ian On 27 January 2011, at 11:05, Chris Moore wrote: > Is the PDF a form containing javascript data? > On 27 Jan 2011, at 10:40, Ian Harrison wrote: > >> Hi Esther, >> >> I have the reader enabled and when I pressed command shift b vvoice over reads out "warning - empty page" over and over again until I quit. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> with many thanks >> Ian >> On 20 January 2011, at 20:01, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Ian, >>> >>> If you use Adobe Reader, did you first activate Read Out Loud (Command-Shift-Y) before using the command to read to the end of the document (Command-Shift-B)? Also, there is no default Adobe Reader voice; the application simply uses text to speech with the voices on your system. If you want to select a system voice, or set a different speaking rate, you have to do this from the preferences menu (Command-Comma). >>> >>> Bring up the Preferences menu with Command+Comma, then VO-Down arrow from "Categories" to the table of preference categories and type "r e" to go to "Reading", then VO-Right arrow till you reach the "Read Out Loud" settings. This is where you select the volume, voice, reading rate, etc. for the text to speech that Adobe Reader uses. Check or uncheck the boxes for using the default voice or using the default speech attributes with VO-Space. If you want to specify the settings that control the speaking rate, you will have to uncheck the box for "Use default speech controls" so you can enter the a value. The maximum speed you can enter is 650 words per minute. >>> >>> Then, as Chris stated, to activate "Read out loud" with Adobe Reader, check the "View" menu on the menu bar for the "Read out loud" sub-menu commands and shortcuts: >>> >>> Activate/Deactivate Read out loud: Command-Shift-Y >>> Read Only this page: Command-Shift-V >>> Read to end of document: Command-Shift-B >>> Pause: Command-Shift-C >>> Stop: Command-Shift-E >>> >>> I have to state that when I just tried this after updating my version of Adobe Reader (from 9.0 to the latest 9.4.1), I couldn't get the speech to speed up. (It worked just fine before I updated). Trashing the ~/Library/Preferences/com.adobe.Reader_x86_9.0.plist didn't help. I notice that the current installation uses a base of version 9.1, so that might be the reason. Source URL for Adobe Reader is: >>> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?platform=macintosh&product=10 >>> >>> Since the built-in PDF reader, Preview, is much nicer to use, I don't often check the status of Adobe Reader. Anyone else having problems speeding up the reading after resetting the reading preferences? I should mention that I haven't tried restarting my system (OS X 10.6.6) after doing the update, but I don't recall having to do this previously. Then again, this is so much less flexible than Preview or Skim, that I rarely use this. Chris, Preview will handle table of contents navigation, for documents that support this, in the sidebar. For example, if you're reading one of the Take Control manuals, or various Apple Support documents, there should be a radio button in the sidebar for table of contents view. Do you have this selected? What happens when you use item chooser menu (VO-I) and type in "radio" or "contents"? Unless your verbosity is set to "low", you'll hear something like "table of contents, selected radio button, 3 of 4" if you have selected to have you > r >> t >>> able of contents displayed in the sidebar, and this is supported for the documents. >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 01:44, Ian Harrison wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> >>>> Thanks for the help - I am getting nearer, but not quite. >>>> >>>> The reading out loud settings happen to be in adobe preferences in the reading panel. I set these to use the Alex voice as there was no enable or disable voice function, and I thought adobe's own voice may conflict with voice over. >>>> >>>> I went back to the document and clicked on read whole document out loud, and nothing happens at all. >>>> >>>> What can I be doing wrong do you think? >>>> >>>> even more thanks for your time. >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> On 19 January 2011, at 12:34, Chris Moore wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ian, >>>>> >>>>> Go to the Edit menu and move down to the Accessibility sub menu. and then select setup assistant. Choose the recommended settings for a screen reader. >>>>> >>>>> Now go to the View menu and then scroll down to the read out loud sub menu and choose from one of the options in there. >>>>> >>>>> Preview is ok, but I find it does not read table of contents etc as well as the Adobe Acrobat Reader. >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> On 19 Jan 2011, at 12:09, Ian Harrison wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I have tried those options. I have adobe reader, but have been unable to find its own text to speech option. Can you point me to that in adobe's menus? >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>> Ian >>>>>> On 19 January 2011, at 11:35, Chris Moore wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Did you try a read all? VO+A? >>>>>>> Have you tried interacting with the PDF so you can read line by line? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Failing that, you could download Adobe's PDF reader (Acrobat) and use the built in screen reader. It works fine but not as flexible as VO. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> On 19 Jan 2011, at 11:12, Ian Harrison wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello to all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am sure this has been asked before - so apologies. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I cannot get voice over to read pdf documents and cannot open them as text files because of the protection. Can anyone provide a work around? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A cheap converter for the Mac would be fine, or is there a way to trick voice over into reading them. I have tried in preview but it only reds the first page and I would prefer the ability to re read passages easily as you can in text editor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>>> Ian >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Tue Feb 1 11:10:57 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:10:57 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <9D1B97B7-9D1C-4843-88D4-5A0ED08FC0A4@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Damian McMorrow to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From damian.mcmorrow at me.com Tue Feb 1 12:02:32 2011 From: damian.mcmorrow at me.com (Damian McMorrow) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 22:02:32 +1000 Subject: Notification area on the Mac. Message-ID: <7209D0BD-312D-4722-B54D-99E725A84254@me.com> Hi all, I am relatively new to my Mac, and extremely new to the list. So far I am finding most things fairly easy to work out, but one thing has me a little stumped. Is there a notification area somewhere on the system where you can see the status of running applications, I.E. the status of drop-box uploads and downloads, and other similar notifications? If so, how do you get to it. I've also been told on occasion that there are error messages on my screen relating to some smb shares I have mounted at start-up but for the life of me I can't find any way to get to them with Voiceover in order to clear them. Any suggestions or hints would be gratefully received. Thanks. Damian. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 12:29:10 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 04:29:10 -0800 Subject: Notification area on the Mac. In-Reply-To: <7209D0BD-312D-4722-B54D-99E725A84254@me.com> References: <7209D0BD-312D-4722-B54D-99E725A84254@me.com> Message-ID: <954694BB-4A62-4E7A-ADD3-27B5399C5D27@gmail.com> There is a area of sorts but it is frustrating. Take care s On 01/02/2011, at 4:02, Damian McMorrow wrote: > Hi all, > > I am relatively new to my Mac, and extremely new to the list. So far I am finding most things fairly easy to work out, but one thing has me a little stumped. > Is there a notification area somewhere on the system where you can see the status of running applications, I.E. the status of drop-box uploads and downloads, and other similar notifications? If so, how do you get to it. > I've also been told on occasion that there are error messages on my screen relating to some smb shares I have mounted at start-up but for the life of me I can't find any way to get to them with Voiceover in order to clear them. > > Any suggestions or hints would be gratefully received. > > Thanks. > > Damian. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lomaswilliam at googlemail.com Tue Feb 1 14:03:53 2011 From: lomaswilliam at googlemail.com (william lomas) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:03:53 +0000 Subject: flash messages? Message-ID: Hi all, Until i await my trackpad I assigned a command to mute my speech when i want to read an article, using the keyboard commander. HOwever my display shows the speech muted message until I use VO on the keyboard to move to the article again. Is there a way to dismiss these extranious VO messages from coming up? If i tripple click with 3 finguers on a trackpad, the magic trackpad to be exact will I have this problem? WIll From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 14:22:18 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:22:18 +0100 Subject: flash messages? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello William, It will not make any difference whether it is the trackpad or the keyboard commander you use, since it is a VoiceOVer message as any other. I take it that you have not read the VoiceOver help, so I will clue you in. By hitting a routing key, you can dismiss the messages quicker. If you have a diffrent display than mine, you may try to turn on keyboard help or check your commands for your display. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From abreier at kc.rr.com Tue Feb 1 16:05:32 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:05:32 -0600 Subject: messages showing up as attachments rather than in the body? References: Message-ID: <8C9EB886E5F449FA87933B2E00FBA9A5@andrea78cdd59a> Can some explain what the purpose is for messages to be placed in an attachment rather than in the actual body of the message? Is this something that a Mac computer does when it handles emails? I was just wondering because this adds another step to reading emails. Thanks for anything you can tell me. Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolai Svendsen" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:22 AM Subject: Re: flash messages? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 16:09:52 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:09:52 +0100 Subject: messages showing up as attachments rather than in the body? In-Reply-To: <8C9EB886E5F449FA87933B2E00FBA9A5@andrea78cdd59a> References: <8C9EB886E5F449FA87933B2E00FBA9A5@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: Hello Andrea, I remember another list member having this issue, and it only seems to be geared mainly towards WIndows users. It is because of security certificates, and I suppose it is either because of some setting in your e-mail program or simply because WIndows can't handle them. I think it may be the former, though, since I am sure that there are more than two Windows users on this list. I have only heard this from two people. If anyone has a fix for this issue on the receiving end, I'd be happy to hear it since I'm extremely reluctant to turn off that certificate as it isn't necessary, and secondly because it's a bad idea at the moment. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Feb 1 16:41:56 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:41:56 +0100 Subject: iWork content viewing In-Reply-To: <352EE9B3-7768-4021-BB17-40133F2278B4@gmail.com> References: <352EE9B3-7768-4021-BB17-40133F2278B4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Kevin, I listened to your comparison between iWork and MS Office for Windows, and I found myself wondering why you would try to demonstrate something you have not yet learned how to use. You're clearly very familiar with Office for Windows but know virtually nothing about iWork. I agree that iWork is far from perfect, but what you fail to understand is that iWork09 is the first version of iWork to be accessible at all. There are workarounds for most of the problems I've encountered with both Pages and Numbers, such as having to copy any tables in Pages into Numbers before being able to read them. Most people go on a course to learn how to use MS Office, and the same kind of learning curve is necessary for iWork. It would take rather more than a couple of e-mail messages to explain the subtleties of Pages alone. It would also appear that you're not really familiar with the Mac yet. I think you used the VO-F find command for your demonstration, whereas it's much more efficient to use the standard OS X command Cmd-F followed by Cmd-G if you want to find the same text again. Cmd-F highlights the searched-for text and if you then press right arrow, you'll be at the right of the text, left arrow will put you to the left of the text, and if you type a character, you'll replace the text. This seems to be what you were doing in Word, but I can't be sure since I've never used Windows and know nothing about it. Cheers, Anne From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 17:19:32 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:19:32 -0600 Subject: iWork content viewing In-Reply-To: References: <352EE9B3-7768-4021-BB17-40133F2278B4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Anne, I'll admit that I am more familiar with Microsoft Windows Office with JAWS as I've used it much longer than Apple Mac OS X iWork with VoiceOver. As you've described, something like Pages alone is much too detailed an for email, where along with Twitter, I've reached out many times on different aspects of iWork for help, assistance and guides with no responses. I'm more than willing to take in answers, pointers, tips, and help, allowing me to learn and be more educated on use of Mac OS X and iWork with VoiceOver. You are the first to provide anything of value so far, which I most certainly appreciate. I felt that a podcast of basic content consumption would be best medium for demonstration and discussing what I'm trying to do. Once I am provided solutions, work-arounds etc for this aspect of it; I'll move onto content creation. Might you or any other list members be able to assist? Kevin On 2/1/11, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Kevin, > > I listened to your comparison between iWork and MS Office for Windows, and I > found myself wondering why you would try to demonstrate something you have > not yet learned how to use. > > You're clearly very familiar with Office for Windows but know virtually > nothing about iWork. > > I agree that iWork is far from perfect, but what you fail to understand is > that iWork09 is the first version of iWork to be accessible at all. > > There are workarounds for most of the problems I've encountered with both > Pages and Numbers, such as having to copy any tables in Pages into Numbers > before being able to read them. > > Most people go on a course to learn how to use MS Office, and the same kind > of learning curve is necessary for iWork. It would take rather more than a > couple of e-mail messages to explain the subtleties of Pages alone. > > It would also appear that you're not really familiar with the Mac yet. I > think you used the VO-F find command for your demonstration, whereas it's > much more efficient to use the standard OS X command Cmd-F followed by Cmd-G > if you want to find the same text again. Cmd-F highlights the searched-for > text and if you then press right arrow, you'll be at the right of the text, > left arrow will put you to the left of the text, and if you type a > character, you'll replace the text. This seems to be what you were doing in > Word, but I can't be sure since I've never used Windows and know nothing > about it. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Feb 1 17:35:50 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:35:50 +0100 Subject: iWork content viewing In-Reply-To: References: <352EE9B3-7768-4021-BB17-40133F2278B4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Kevin, Thank you for accepting my comments so graciously. I don't use TWitter or Facebook and find it hard to keep up with the various Mac lists, particularly as I'm responsible for one in French which takes up a lot of my time. I also work as a freelance translator and teach VO here in France. I'll help when I can, of course. You joined this list just a little too late to catch an interesting exchange on dragging and dropping files onto an application. This is the list for that kind of technical discussion, so I think you'll find more help here. Cheers, Anne From grandtheogonist at googlemail.com Tue Feb 1 17:58:28 2011 From: grandtheogonist at googlemail.com (Karl) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:58:28 +0000 Subject: iWork content viewing In-Reply-To: <352EE9B3-7768-4021-BB17-40133F2278B4@gmail.com> References: <352EE9B3-7768-4021-BB17-40133F2278B4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1CBF10FB-8716-42CA-9FEA-D5726F87EBBE@googlemail.com> Kevin, I am having similar problems making an efficient move across to Iwork and VO from Excel and JFW. I would dearly love to leave excel behind especially as sighted users of Iwork really rave about the package. Unfortunately, even with some help here at the moment the accessibility is just not smooth enough to make the move in my professional life. I am hoping to see constant improvements and keeping fingers crossed. To add to the type of things you noticed I would add, for Numbers: Having to use the trackpad to navigate to certain controls rather than keeping to the keyboard, and the lack of good verbosity whilst selecting cells. Just my penny's worth. I think someone on the list had a basic guide to some aspects of Iwork and maybe that could act as the start of the learning curve; I could sure do with help! Karl On 1 Feb 2011, at 01:56, Kevin Chao wrote: > I've been attempting to use iWOrk, and I do say attempting. I've found a variety of issues with viewing content, not even getting into content producing yet. > > In VoiceOver On most recent, episode 6, I demonstrate Pages, Numbers and KeyNote. I've found a variety of issues, which I think are better detailed in a demonstration and discussion. > > http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com > > Please have a listen, provide feedback, specifically on content with suggestions, ideas or work-arounds. > Note: content refers to Apple Mac OS X iWork with VoiceOver. > > THanks, > > Kevin > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 18:23:23 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:23:23 +0100 Subject: Latest Webkit Build Message-ID: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> Hello! Just an urgent warning to those using Webkit. If you have not updated Webkit yet, I urge you to wait for the next rrelease, but just in case, back up your current Webkit.app file so that you can downgrade to a working build. Currently, it appears that hardly any effort at all will cause it to become responsive and simply either crash or show up as "not responding." Just a warning to those using it. If you already updated, I can provide an earlier version for you. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From gordon at mac-access.net Tue Feb 1 18:49:52 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:49:52 +0000 Subject: messages showing up as attachments rather than in the body? In-Reply-To: <8C9EB886E5F449FA87933B2E00FBA9A5@andrea78cdd59a> References: <8C9EB886E5F449FA87933B2E00FBA9A5@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <597BDCC7-F3B0-425A-B94D-0B5EB80F5224@mac-access.net> This sometimes happens when a message is digitally signed, and it's Outlook or the recipient's mail programme which can't handle the certificates. It isn't a Mac thing at all. For example, some versions of Microsoft Outlook don't seem to be capable of handling all mime types. So digitally signed messages, (as from Nic I believe), don't get displayed properly by those E-Mail programmes which either are not configured to handle digital certificates, or which are incapable of doing so. Apple Mail, incidentally, usually displays the messages properly without any configuration. Gordon On 1 Feb 2011, at 16:05, Andrea Breier wrote: > Can some explain what the purpose is for messages to be placed in an attachment rather than in the actual body of the message? Is this something that a Mac computer does when it handles emails? I was just wondering because this adds another step to reading emails. Thanks for anything you can tell me. From gordon at mac-access.net Tue Feb 1 18:59:58 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:59:58 +0000 Subject: Latest Webkit Build In-Reply-To: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> References: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: Nic Thanks for this, we'll wait. Gordon On 1 Feb 2011, at 18:23, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello! > > Just an urgent warning to those using Webkit. > > If you have not updated Webkit yet, I urge you to wait for the next rrelease, but just in case, back up your current Webkit.app file so that you can downgrade to a working build. Currently, it appears that hardly any effort at all will cause it to become responsive and simply either crash or show up as "not responding." > > Just a warning to those using it. If you already updated, I can provide an earlier version for you. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Feb 1 19:02:33 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:02:33 +0000 Subject: Voice over and Adobe pdfs In-Reply-To: <0930499A-C900-4A01-8A3C-E50806D1DB28@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> References: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <986174F9-DF2E-4980-ADFD-B994BAF91744@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <93326DE6-7981-4C13-8F53-1E20A4AE5B6D@blueyonder.co.uk> <47494878-4C1E-4DDE-B2B7-3908D92CFE00@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <124E9376-ECD7-40C9-98B2-EB1B7223295E@mac.com> <4614E808-5B8F-4669-A57A-18470BCAD267@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <0930499A-C900-4A01-8A3C-E50806D1DB28@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <39CD5561-CE9F-460D-971A-337496842B3B@mac-access.net> Have you tried opening the PDF in ColorSync and then resaving it as a PDF? This might remove the password. HTH TC :) James On 1 Feb 2011, at 11:04, Ian Harrison wrote: > Hi, > > No, I don't think so. It is a set of legal documents. It may well be protected. > > I think my company would pay for a conversion product if there is one out there. Any suggestions as this is really not a slick experience. > > Regards > Ian > On 27 January 2011, at 11:05, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Is the PDF a form containing javascript data? >> On 27 Jan 2011, at 10:40, Ian Harrison wrote: >> >>> Hi Esther, >>> >>> I have the reader enabled and when I pressed command shift b vvoice over reads out "warning - empty page" over and over again until I quit. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >>> with many thanks >>> Ian >>> On 20 January 2011, at 20:01, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ian, >>>> >>>> If you use Adobe Reader, did you first activate Read Out Loud (Command-Shift-Y) before using the command to read to the end of the document (Command-Shift-B)? Also, there is no default Adobe Reader voice; the application simply uses text to speech with the voices on your system. If you want to select a system voice, or set a different speaking rate, you have to do this from the preferences menu (Command-Comma). >>>> >>>> Bring up the Preferences menu with Command+Comma, then VO-Down arrow from "Categories" to the table of preference categories and type "r e" to go to "Reading", then VO-Right arrow till you reach the "Read Out Loud" settings. This is where you select the volume, voice, reading rate, etc. for the text to speech that Adobe Reader uses. Check or uncheck the boxes for using the default voice or using the default speech attributes with VO-Space. If you want to specify the settings that control the speaking rate, you will have to uncheck the box for "Use default speech controls" so you can enter the a value. The maximum speed you can enter is 650 words per minute. >>>> >>>> Then, as Chris stated, to activate "Read out loud" with Adobe Reader, check the "View" menu on the menu bar for the "Read out loud" sub-menu commands and shortcuts: >>>> >>>> Activate/Deactivate Read out loud: Command-Shift-Y >>>> Read Only this page: Command-Shift-V >>>> Read to end of document: Command-Shift-B >>>> Pause: Command-Shift-C >>>> Stop: Command-Shift-E >>>> >>>> I have to state that when I just tried this after updating my version of Adobe Reader (from 9.0 to the latest 9.4.1), I couldn't get the speech to speed up. (It worked just fine before I updated). Trashing the ~/Library/Preferences/com.adobe.Reader_x86_9.0.plist didn't help. I notice that the current installation uses a base of version 9.1, so that might be the reason. Source URL for Adobe Reader is: >>>> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?platform=macintosh&product=10 >>>> >>>> Since the built-in PDF reader, Preview, is much nicer to use, I don't often check the status of Adobe Reader. Anyone else having problems speeding up the reading after resetting the reading preferences? I should mention that I haven't tried restarting my system (OS X 10.6.6) after doing the update, but I don't recall having to do this previously. Then again, this is so much less flexible than Preview or Skim, that I rarely use this. Chris, Preview will handle table of contents navigation, for documents that support this, in the sidebar. For example, if you're reading one of the Take Control manuals, or various Apple Support documents, there should be a radio button in the sidebar for table of contents view. Do you have this selected? What happens when you use item chooser menu (VO-I) and type in "radio" or "contents"? Unless your verbosity is set to "low", you'll hear something like "table of contents, selected radio button, 3 of 4" if you have selected to have yo > u >> r >>> t >>>> able of contents displayed in the sidebar, and this is supported for the documents. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 01:44, Ian Harrison wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the help - I am getting nearer, but not quite. >>>>> >>>>> The reading out loud settings happen to be in adobe preferences in the reading panel. I set these to use the Alex voice as there was no enable or disable voice function, and I thought adobe's own voice may conflict with voice over. >>>>> >>>>> I went back to the document and clicked on read whole document out loud, and nothing happens at all. >>>>> >>>>> What can I be doing wrong do you think? >>>>> >>>>> even more thanks for your time. >>>>> >>>>> Ian >>>>> On 19 January 2011, at 12:34, Chris Moore wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ian, >>>>>> >>>>>> Go to the Edit menu and move down to the Accessibility sub menu. and then select setup assistant. Choose the recommended settings for a screen reader. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now go to the View menu and then scroll down to the read out loud sub menu and choose from one of the options in there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Preview is ok, but I find it does not read table of contents etc as well as the Adobe Acrobat Reader. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> On 19 Jan 2011, at 12:09, Ian Harrison wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I have tried those options. I have adobe reader, but have been unable to find its own text to speech option. Can you point me to that in adobe's menus? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>> Ian >>>>>>> On 19 January 2011, at 11:35, Chris Moore wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did you try a read all? VO+A? >>>>>>>> Have you tried interacting with the PDF so you can read line by line? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Failing that, you could download Adobe's PDF reader (Acrobat) and use the built in screen reader. It works fine but not as flexible as VO. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>> On 19 Jan 2011, at 11:12, Ian Harrison wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello to all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am sure this has been asked before - so apologies. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I cannot get voice over to read pdf documents and cannot open them as text files because of the protection. Can anyone provide a work around? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A cheap converter for the Mac would be fine, or is there a way to trick voice over into reading them. I have tried in preview but it only reds the first page and I would prefer the ability to re read passages easily as you can in text editor. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>>>> Ian >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Feb 1 19:03:38 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:03:38 +0000 Subject: Latest Webkit Build In-Reply-To: References: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0572FD7F-9141-40D6-8F95-5899CC6DDD76@mac-access.net> Hi Nic, I think I updated it yesterday, when was this one released and what is the version number please? On 1 Feb 2011, at 18:59, Gordon Smith wrote: > Nic > > Thanks for this, we'll wait. > > Gordon > > > On 1 Feb 2011, at 18:23, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> Just an urgent warning to those using Webkit. >> >> If you have not updated Webkit yet, I urge you to wait for the next rrelease, but just in case, back up your current Webkit.app file so that you can downgrade to a working build. Currently, it appears that hardly any effort at all will cause it to become responsive and simply either crash or show up as "not responding." >> >> Just a warning to those using it. If you already updated, I can provide an earlier version for you. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 19:07:41 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:07:41 +0100 Subject: Latest Webkit Build In-Reply-To: <0572FD7F-9141-40D6-8F95-5899CC6DDD76@mac-access.net> References: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> <0572FD7F-9141-40D6-8F95-5899CC6DDD76@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello James, The latest version of the Webkit buildis R77220. I'm actually wondering if I'm the only one having these issues, so it would be interesting of people updated. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Feb 1 19:09:04 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:09:04 +0000 Subject: iWork content viewing In-Reply-To: <1CBF10FB-8716-42CA-9FEA-D5726F87EBBE@googlemail.com> References: <352EE9B3-7768-4021-BB17-40133F2278B4@gmail.com> <1CBF10FB-8716-42CA-9FEA-D5726F87EBBE@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1CB0B814-AF25-4B60-A640-9500496C93D0@mac-access.net> Kevin & Karl, Plase feel free to message me off-list and pwerhaps we an all get together on Skype and iI might be able ot offer osme pointers on IWork. Thanks TC :) James On 1 Feb 2011, at 17:58, Karl wrote: > Kevin, > I am having similar problems making an efficient move across to Iwork and VO from Excel and JFW. I would dearly love to leave excel behind especially as sighted users of Iwork really rave about the package. Unfortunately, even with some help here at the moment the accessibility is just not smooth enough to make the move in my professional life. I am hoping to see constant improvements and keeping fingers crossed. To add to the type of things you noticed I would add, for Numbers: > > Having to use the trackpad to navigate to certain controls rather than keeping to the keyboard, and the lack of good verbosity whilst selecting cells. > > Just my penny's worth. > I think someone on the list had a basic guide to some aspects of Iwork and maybe that could act as the start of the learning curve; I could sure do with help! > > Karl > On 1 Feb 2011, at 01:56, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> I've been attempting to use iWOrk, and I do say attempting. I've found a variety of issues with viewing content, not even getting into content producing yet. >> >> In VoiceOver On most recent, episode 6, I demonstrate Pages, Numbers and KeyNote. I've found a variety of issues, which I think are better detailed in a demonstration and discussion. >> >> http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com >> >> Please have a listen, provide feedback, specifically on content with suggestions, ideas or work-arounds. >> Note: content refers to Apple Mac OS X iWork with VoiceOver. >> >> THanks, >> >> Kevin >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Feb 1 19:10:37 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:10:37 +0000 Subject: Latest Webkit Build In-Reply-To: References: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> <0572FD7F-9141-40D6-8F95-5899CC6DDD76@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <66348332-A601-430D-AD80-423DF719A345@mac-access.net> Hi Nic, I've not yet updated. I'll make a back of this version and then update. I'll tell you what I discover. TC :) James On 1 Feb 2011, at 19:07, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello James, > > The latest version of the Webkit buildis R77220. > > I'm actually wondering if I'm the only one having these issues, so it would be interesting of people updated. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 19:11:55 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:11:55 +0100 Subject: Latest Webkit Build In-Reply-To: <66348332-A601-430D-AD80-423DF719A345@mac-access.net> References: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> <0572FD7F-9141-40D6-8F95-5899CC6DDD76@mac-access.net> <66348332-A601-430D-AD80-423DF719A345@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi James! Thanks a lot for daring to experiment. I hope it works out for you. If not, it sounds like a serious step back. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Feb 1 19:14:05 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:14:05 +0000 Subject: Latest Webkit Build In-Reply-To: References: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> <0572FD7F-9141-40D6-8F95-5899CC6DDD76@mac-access.net> <66348332-A601-430D-AD80-423DF719A345@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <10827F70-A2CF-46EF-9A32-9F1F9934EAFE@mac-access.net> I'lll report back and maybe we can work together to inform the Webkit folks as I've never reported bugs to them before, and am not sure what to send or where to find it. On 1 Feb 2011, at 19:11, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi James! > > Thanks a lot for daring to experiment. I hope it works out for you. If not, it sounds like a serious step back. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From edworrell at bresnan.net Tue Feb 1 19:15:18 2011 From: edworrell at bresnan.net (Ed Worrell) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:15:18 -0700 Subject: Latest Webkit Build In-Reply-To: References: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> <0572FD7F-9141-40D6-8F95-5899CC6DDD76@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5B765563-4638-43F2-B15F-9E1D42DE71E3@bresnan.net> I just downloaded that version and I am not having any problems. Infact the browser works faster then Safari. I can even upload to my soundcloud now by myself. I couldn't do this with Safari for some reasen. It would crash VO and then crash Safari a few seconds later. So no issues here yet ED From abreier at kc.rr.com Tue Feb 1 19:18:24 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:18:24 -0600 Subject: messages showing up as attachments rather than in the body? References: <8C9EB886E5F449FA87933B2E00FBA9A5@andrea78cdd59a> <597BDCC7-F3B0-425A-B94D-0B5EB80F5224@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2AE206308217422E8B52C86B946F8B09@andrea78cdd59a> I just had never experienced this behavior before. And because it was a Mac list I thought that first had to be it. Is there anything I can do about this. I am using the windows platform. Surprise, surprise. LOL Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: messages showing up as attachments rather than in the body? > > This sometimes happens when a message is digitally signed, and it's > Outlook or the recipient's mail programme which can't handle the > certificates. It isn't a Mac thing at all. > > For example, some versions of Microsoft Outlook don't seem to be capable > of handling all mime types. So digitally signed messages, (as from Nic I > believe), don't get displayed properly by those E-Mail programmes which > either are not configured to handle digital certificates, or which are > incapable of doing so. > > Apple Mail, incidentally, usually displays the messages properly without > any configuration. > > Gordon > > > > On 1 Feb 2011, at 16:05, Andrea Breier wrote: > >> Can some explain what the purpose is for messages to be placed in an >> attachment rather than in the actual body of the message? Is this >> something that a Mac computer does when it handles emails? I was just >> wondering because this adds another step to reading emails. Thanks for >> anything you can tell me. > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From lavendar at bell.net Tue Feb 1 19:25:33 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn and Nicky) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:25:33 -0500 Subject: auto correct In-Reply-To: References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a> <2F63C39F-4CC3-4ED8-B378-E1C5B021CBB8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Do we have to turn predictive text on somewhere, or does the i phone just do it by itself? I've turned auto correct back on now that you've explained this nicely and would like to play with this more. I have gotten quite brave with touch typeing now! Thanks, Caitlyn On 22/01/2011 4:48 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: > Here is a posts from the list that I put back and just now dug up, > just for you and anyone else that wants to read it. Hope it is helpful. > > Auto correction > > > > When I am typing while texting the predictive typing kicks in. What > are the steps to ignore or accept the corrected spelling? thanks. > > > > To accept the suggested word, just press spacebar. > > To reject it, if it comes in your way is to turn the rotor to > "auto correction", swipe up or down to select the word you would like > to reject and double tap it. Once you double tap, Voiceover annoyingly > says "button" which confused me initially. > > I only wish the auto correction feature offered more practical > suggestions. Some of the suggestions are simply ridiculous > > > > Hugs, Andrea M Breier > > Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of > yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave > the rest to God > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: auto correct > > >> Well I am trying autocorrect with some nasty results. Infact I am >> using it now. I only see one choice all he time and usually that is >> not the word I want >> >> >> On 21/01/2011, at 5:32, "Andrea Breier" wrote: >> >>> I don't know if I am going to explain this just right, but here >>> goes. From what I remember, he said that if you are typing a word >>> and it does the autocorrect on your word, trying to change it to >>> what it assumes it should be. Just back space and retype from the >>> point where it auto corrected. It will try to put it back to it's >>> correction selection then you delete back and fix it two more times. >>> He said from this point the auto correction should auto correct to >>> the word you kept changing it to. I guess the auto correct is >>> intuitive and it will try to customize it's self to what the user >>> needs. I thought it was good to know, but haven't done anything >>> with it yet, so I can't say as to how successful it is. >>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>> >>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of >>> yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave >>> the rest to God >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:00 PM >>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>> >>> >>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three >>>> times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage >>>> everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three >>>>> times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than >>>>> what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and >>>>> correct it's self. >>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>> >>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one >>>>> of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. >>>>> Leave the rest to God >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>> >>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes >>>>>> it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>> >>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it >>>>>> doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? >>>>>> I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for >>>>>> the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct >>>>>> this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>> >>>>>> Christy >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >>>>>> posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted >>>>> to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted >>>> to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted >>> to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >> the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to > the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > From jekis at fastmail.us Tue Feb 1 19:34:05 2011 From: jekis at fastmail.us (Justin Ekis) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:34:05 -0800 Subject: messages showing up as attachments rather than in the body? In-Reply-To: <597BDCC7-F3B0-425A-B94D-0B5EB80F5224@mac-access.net> References: <8C9EB886E5F449FA87933B2E00FBA9A5@andrea78cdd59a> <597BDCC7-F3B0-425A-B94D-0B5EB80F5224@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <344C979E-ACCA-4E30-88B4-6AED338EA5EC@fastmail.us> What I'm going to describe is no problem at all, not even a minor annoyance. I just thought this detail is interesting in the context of this conversation. I work with mail in a way that might be unusual. I keep the preview pane open, and just tab to it to hear each message. Incidentally, I occasionally find that I can't just tab into the preview area of apple mail to hear a message. Sometimes I have to open it with enter. This only happens with some, but not all of Nic's signed messages. Also, when I was using windows, I've experienced that same problem on other lists where people use digital certificates. It even happens if the sender is running Windows or Linux, so it's not a mac thing. Justin On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: This sometimes happens when a message is digitally signed, and it's Outlook or the recipient's mail programme which can't handle the certificates. It isn't a Mac thing at all. For example, some versions of Microsoft Outlook don't seem to be capable of handling all mime types. So digitally signed messages, (as from Nic I believe), don't get displayed properly by those E-Mail programmes which either are not configured to handle digital certificates, or which are incapable of doing so. Apple Mail, incidentally, usually displays the messages properly without any configuration. Gordon On 1 Feb 2011, at 16:05, Andrea Breier wrote: > Can some explain what the purpose is for messages to be placed in an attachment rather than in the actual body of the message? Is this something that a Mac computer does when it handles emails? I was just wondering because this adds another step to reading emails. Thanks for anything you can tell me. _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From abreier at kc.rr.com Tue Feb 1 19:40:08 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:40:08 -0600 Subject: messages showing up as attachments rather than in the body? References: <8C9EB886E5F449FA87933B2E00FBA9A5@andrea78cdd59a><597BDCC7-F3B0-425A-B94D-0B5EB80F5224@mac-access.net> <344C979E-ACCA-4E30-88B4-6AED338EA5EC@fastmail.us> Message-ID: <5B7CAD38CF48437391D59E4431385E16@andrea78cdd59a> So,,, Aare you saying if I show the preview pain I can read the attachments without having to open them? Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Ekis" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:34 PM Subject: Re: messages showing up as attachments rather than in the body? > What I'm going to describe is no problem at all, not even a minor > annoyance. I just thought this detail is interesting in the context of > this conversation. > > I work with mail in a way that might be unusual. I keep the preview pane > open, and just tab to it to hear each message. Incidentally, I > occasionally find that I can't just tab into the preview area of apple > mail to hear a message. Sometimes I have to open it with enter. This only > happens with some, but not all of Nic's signed messages. > > Also, when I was using windows, I've experienced that same problem on > other lists where people use digital certificates. It even happens if the > sender is running Windows or Linux, so it's not a mac thing. > > Justin > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > > > This sometimes happens when a message is digitally signed, and it's > Outlook or the recipient's mail programme which can't handle the > certificates. It isn't a Mac thing at all. > > For example, some versions of Microsoft Outlook don't seem to be capable > of handling all mime types. So digitally signed messages, (as from Nic I > believe), don't get displayed properly by those E-Mail programmes which > either are not configured to handle digital certificates, or which are > incapable of doing so. > > Apple Mail, incidentally, usually displays the messages properly without > any configuration. > > Gordon > > > > On 1 Feb 2011, at 16:05, Andrea Breier wrote: > >> Can some explain what the purpose is for messages to be placed in an >> attachment rather than in the actual body of the message? Is this >> something that a Mac computer does when it handles emails? I was just >> wondering because this adds another step to reading emails. Thanks for >> anything you can tell me. > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From jekis at fastmail.us Tue Feb 1 19:46:28 2011 From: jekis at fastmail.us (Justin Ekis) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:46:28 -0800 Subject: messages showing up as attachments rather than in the body? In-Reply-To: <5B7CAD38CF48437391D59E4431385E16@andrea78cdd59a> References: <8C9EB886E5F449FA87933B2E00FBA9A5@andrea78cdd59a><597BDCC7-F3B0-425A-B94D-0B5EB80F5224@mac-access.net> <344C979E-ACCA-4E30-88B4-6AED338EA5EC@fastmail.us> <5B7CAD38CF48437391D59E4431385E16@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <2C8CF450-EF98-4F3E-887F-C097A77F8421@fastmail.us> Sorry about the confusion. No, I was making a general comment to the list about something interesting that the mac mail client does when it encounters one of these messages. Sometimes I can't view them in the preview pane the way I generally read most messages, but they display fine when I open them. As for your problem, I dealt with this for a while when using windows and don't know any way to work around it. Sorry I can't be more help. On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Andrea Breier wrote: So,,, Aare you saying if I show the preview pain I can read the attachments without having to open them? Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Ekis" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:34 PM Subject: Re: messages showing up as attachments rather than in the body? > What I'm going to describe is no problem at all, not even a minor annoyance. I just thought this detail is interesting in the context of this conversation. > > I work with mail in a way that might be unusual. I keep the preview pane open, and just tab to it to hear each message. Incidentally, I occasionally find that I can't just tab into the preview area of apple mail to hear a message. Sometimes I have to open it with enter. This only happens with some, but not all of Nic's signed messages. > > Also, when I was using windows, I've experienced that same problem on other lists where people use digital certificates. It even happens if the sender is running Windows or Linux, so it's not a mac thing. > > Justin > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > > > This sometimes happens when a message is digitally signed, and it's Outlook or the recipient's mail programme which can't handle the certificates. It isn't a Mac thing at all. > > For example, some versions of Microsoft Outlook don't seem to be capable of handling all mime types. So digitally signed messages, (as from Nic I believe), don't get displayed properly by those E-Mail programmes which either are not configured to handle digital certificates, or which are incapable of doing so. > > Apple Mail, incidentally, usually displays the messages properly without any configuration. > > Gordon > > > > On 1 Feb 2011, at 16:05, Andrea Breier wrote: > >> Can some explain what the purpose is for messages to be placed in an attachment rather than in the actual body of the message? Is this something that a Mac computer does when it handles emails? I was just wondering because this adds another step to reading emails. Thanks for anything you can tell me. > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 19:51:06 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:51:06 +0100 Subject: Latest Webkit Build In-Reply-To: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> References: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7081FED4-D37B-4107-8981-924137702037@gmail.com> Hello again! I think you can simply just dismiss my earlier warning about Webkit. It appears that, after reinstalling that troublesome build in particular, it fixed my woes with the application. I think you're safe. Keyword. THINK. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 19:56:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:56:47 -0800 Subject: Latest Webkit Build In-Reply-To: References: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <01A5F2DF-5C09-403D-97E8-19015F58BFC6@gmail.com> Have you submitted a bug to the devs yet about this? On 01/02/2011, at 10:59, Gordon Smith wrote: > Nic > > Thanks for this, we'll wait. > > Gordon > > > On 1 Feb 2011, at 18:23, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> Just an urgent warning to those using Webkit. >> >> If you have not updated Webkit yet, I urge you to wait for the next rrelease, but just in case, back up your current Webkit.app file so that you can downgrade to a working build. Currently, it appears that hardly any effort at all will cause it to become responsive and simply either crash or show up as "not responding." >> >> Just a warning to those using it. If you already updated, I can provide an earlier version for you. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 20:03:03 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:03:03 -0800 Subject: messages showing up as attachments rather than in the body? In-Reply-To: References: <8C9EB886E5F449FA87933B2E00FBA9A5@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: They is a setting in onyx to do tht under parameters. On 01/02/2011, at 8:09, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Andrea, > > I remember another list member having this issue, and it only seems to be geared mainly towards WIndows users. > > It is because of security certificates, and I suppose it is either because of some setting in your e-mail program or simply because WIndows can't handle them. I think it may be the former, though, since I am sure that there are more than two Windows users on this list. I have only heard this from two people. If anyone has a fix for this issue on the receiving end, I'd be happy to hear it since I'm extremely reluctant to turn off that certificate as it isn't necessary, and secondly because it's a bad idea at the moment. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 20:05:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:05:19 -0800 Subject: auto correct In-Reply-To: References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a> <532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com> <5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a> <2F63C39F-4CC3-4ED8-B378-E1C5B021CBB8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8369D1C0-3A6C-4095-A58C-53EBAA154946@gmail.com> Nope It is already pm. Just start typing. On 01/02/2011, at 11:25, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote: > Do we have to turn predictive text on somewhere, or does the i phone just do it by itself? I've turned auto correct back on now that you've explained this nicely and would like to play with this more. I have gotten quite brave with touch typeing now! > > Thanks, > Caitlyn > > > On 22/01/2011 4:48 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >> Here is a posts from the list that I put back and just now dug up, just for you and anyone else that wants to read it. Hope it is helpful. >> >> Auto correction >> >> >> >> When I am typing while texting the predictive typing kicks in. What are the steps to ignore or accept the corrected spelling? thanks. >> >> >> >> To accept the suggested word, just press spacebar. >> >> To reject it, if it comes in your way is to turn the rotor to >> "auto correction", swipe up or down to select the word you would like >> to reject and double tap it. Once you double tap, Voiceover annoyingly >> says "button" which confused me initially. >> >> I only wish the auto correction feature offered more practical >> suggestions. Some of the suggestions are simply ridiculous >> >> >> >> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >> >> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:13 PM >> Subject: Re: auto correct >> >> >>> Well I am trying autocorrect with some nasty results. Infact I am using it now. I only see one choice all he time and usually that is not the word I want >>> >>> >>> On 21/01/2011, at 5:32, "Andrea Breier" wrote: >>> >>>> I don't know if I am going to explain this just right, but here goes. From what I remember, he said that if you are typing a word and it does the autocorrect on your word, trying to change it to what it assumes it should be. Just back space and retype from the point where it auto corrected. It will try to put it back to it's correction selection then you delete back and fix it two more times. He said from this point the auto correction should auto correct to the word you kept changing it to. I guess the auto correct is intuitive and it will try to customize it's self to what the user needs. I thought it was good to know, but haven't done anything with it yet, so I can't say as to how successful it is. >>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>> >>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:00 PM >>>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>>> >>>> >>>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>>> >>>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Christy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au Tue Feb 1 20:50:53 2011 From: vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au (Vaughn Bennison) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 06:50:53 +1000 Subject: Notification area on the Mac. In-Reply-To: <7209D0BD-312D-4722-B54D-99E725A84254@me.com> References: <7209D0BD-312D-4722-B54D-99E725A84254@me.com> Message-ID: <0AAED4B3-EC36-4EBE-A836-83EDAA2EC9A5@netspace.net.au> If you go to the window chooser menu in finder, (Option control F2-F2) you can very often get to these windows. I had that problem for ages and I'm not sure you can access everything, but it seems to be a good start! Vaughn. On 01/02/2011, at 10:02 PM, Damian McMorrow wrote: > Hi all, > > I am relatively new to my Mac, and extremely new to the list. So far I am finding most things fairly easy to work out, but one thing has me a little stumped. > Is there a notification area somewhere on the system where you can see the status of running applications, I.E. the status of drop-box uploads and downloads, and other similar notifications? If so, how do you get to it. > I've also been told on occasion that there are error messages on my screen relating to some smb shares I have mounted at start-up but for the life of me I can't find any way to get to them with Voiceover in order to clear them. > > Any suggestions or hints would be gratefully received. > > Thanks. > > Damian. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lavendar at bell.net Tue Feb 1 21:10:15 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn and Nicky) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:10:15 -0500 Subject: auto correct In-Reply-To: <8369D1C0-3A6C-4095-A58C-53EBAA154946@gmail.com> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a> <532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com> <5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a> <2F63C39F-4CC3-4ED8-B378-E1C5B021CBB8@gmail.com> <8369D1C0-3A6C-4095-A58C-53EBAA154946@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hmm.. okie dokie, will give it a whirl or three.. See what happens. Cait On 01/02/2011 3:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Nope It is already pm. Just start typing. > > On 01/02/2011, at 11:25, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote: > >> Do we have to turn predictive text on somewhere, or does the i phone just do it by itself? I've turned auto correct back on now that you've explained this nicely and would like to play with this more. I have gotten quite brave with touch typeing now! >> >> Thanks, >> Caitlyn >> >> >> On 22/01/2011 4:48 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>> Here is a posts from the list that I put back and just now dug up, just for you and anyone else that wants to read it. Hope it is helpful. >>> >>> Auto correction >>> >>> >>> >>> When I am typing while texting the predictive typing kicks in. What are the steps to ignore or accept the corrected spelling? thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> To accept the suggested word, just press spacebar. >>> >>> To reject it, if it comes in your way is to turn the rotor to >>> "auto correction", swipe up or down to select the word you would like >>> to reject and double tap it. Once you double tap, Voiceover annoyingly >>> says "button" which confused me initially. >>> >>> I only wish the auto correction feature offered more practical >>> suggestions. Some of the suggestions are simply ridiculous >>> >>> >>> >>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>> >>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:13 PM >>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>> >>> >>>> Well I am trying autocorrect with some nasty results. Infact I am using it now. I only see one choice all he time and usually that is not the word I want >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21/01/2011, at 5:32, "Andrea Breier" wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't know if I am going to explain this just right, but here goes. From what I remember, he said that if you are typing a word and it does the autocorrect on your word, trying to change it to what it assumes it should be. Just back space and retype from the point where it auto corrected. It will try to put it back to it's correction selection then you delete back and fix it two more times. He said from this point the auto correction should auto correct to the word you kept changing it to. I guess the auto correct is intuitive and it will try to customize it's self to what the user needs. I thought it was good to know, but haven't done anything with it yet, so I can't say as to how successful it is. >>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>> >>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:00 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>>>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Christy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 21:23:22 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:23:22 -0800 Subject: Notification area on the Mac. In-Reply-To: <0AAED4B3-EC36-4EBE-A836-83EDAA2EC9A5@netspace.net.au> References: <7209D0BD-312D-4722-B54D-99E725A84254@me.com> <0AAED4B3-EC36-4EBE-A836-83EDAA2EC9A5@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: You cannot how ever access dropbox downloads status that way though. that has to be gotten throughout he status menu and the track pad if you have one. If not I would not know how to access all of the icons in the status menu with out one. On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > If you go to the window chooser menu in finder, (Option control F2-F2) you can very often get to these windows. I had that problem for ages and I'm not sure you can access everything, but it seems to be a good start! > > Vaughn. > On 01/02/2011, at 10:02 PM, Damian McMorrow wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am relatively new to my Mac, and extremely new to the list. So far I am finding most things fairly easy to work out, but one thing has me a little stumped. >> Is there a notification area somewhere on the system where you can see the status of running applications, I.E. the status of drop-box uploads and downloads, and other similar notifications? If so, how do you get to it. >> I've also been told on occasion that there are error messages on my screen relating to some smb shares I have mounted at start-up but for the life of me I can't find any way to get to them with Voiceover in order to clear them. >> >> Any suggestions or hints would be gratefully received. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Damian. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 21:23:51 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:23:51 -0800 Subject: auto correct In-Reply-To: References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a> <532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com> <5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a> <2F63C39F-4CC3-4ED8-B378-E1C5B021CBB8@gmail.com> <8369D1C0-3A6C-4095-A58C-53EBAA154946@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah good luck. Remember flick down to hear the choice but you will only see one, that's what I have found. S On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote: > Hmm.. okie dokie, will give it a whirl or three.. See what happens. > > Cait > > > On 01/02/2011 3:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> Nope It is already pm. Just start typing. >> >> On 01/02/2011, at 11:25, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote: >> >>> Do we have to turn predictive text on somewhere, or does the i phone just do it by itself? I've turned auto correct back on now that you've explained this nicely and would like to play with this more. I have gotten quite brave with touch typeing now! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Caitlyn >>> >>> >>> On 22/01/2011 4:48 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>> Here is a posts from the list that I put back and just now dug up, just for you and anyone else that wants to read it. Hope it is helpful. >>>> >>>> Auto correction >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> When I am typing while texting the predictive typing kicks in. What are the steps to ignore or accept the corrected spelling? thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To accept the suggested word, just press spacebar. >>>> >>>> To reject it, if it comes in your way is to turn the rotor to >>>> "auto correction", swipe up or down to select the word you would like >>>> to reject and double tap it. Once you double tap, Voiceover annoyingly >>>> says "button" which confused me initially. >>>> >>>> I only wish the auto correction feature offered more practical >>>> suggestions. Some of the suggestions are simply ridiculous >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>> >>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:13 PM >>>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>>> >>>> >>>>> Well I am trying autocorrect with some nasty results. Infact I am using it now. I only see one choice all he time and usually that is not the word I want >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 21/01/2011, at 5:32, "Andrea Breier" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't know if I am going to explain this just right, but here goes. From what I remember, he said that if you are typing a word and it does the autocorrect on your word, trying to change it to what it assumes it should be. Just back space and retype from the point where it auto corrected. It will try to put it back to it's correction selection then you delete back and fix it two more times. He said from this point the auto correction should auto correct to the word you kept changing it to. I guess the auto correct is intuitive and it will try to customize it's self to what the user needs. I thought it was good to know, but haven't done anything with it yet, so I can't say as to how successful it is. >>>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>>> >>>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:00 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>>>>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Christy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 21:53:46 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:53:46 -0800 Subject: Pantech 4G LTE Modem From Verizon Now Compatible With Mac OS X: Message-ID: Is this a good move on VZ's part? are the prices fair? read on: http://bit.ly/fg7XoC From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 22:23:02 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:23:02 -0800 Subject: Latest Webkit Build In-Reply-To: <7081FED4-D37B-4107-8981-924137702037@gmail.com> References: <583FD0E1-71F7-4F77-9C4C-CAD0F90523B3@gmail.com> <7081FED4-D37B-4107-8981-924137702037@gmail.com> Message-ID: So far no crashes but I'm keeping an eye on the new version. Take care. S On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello again! > > I think you can simply just dismiss my earlier warning about Webkit. > > It appears that, after reinstalling that troublesome build in particular, it fixed my woes with the application. I think you're safe. > > Keyword. THINK. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Feb 1 22:28:45 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:28:45 -0400 Subject: Pianoteq on the Mac. Message-ID: Hi Folks: Has anyone had any luck running Pianoteq with either GB or PT? Thanks all over the place gang. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From damian.mcmorrow at me.com Tue Feb 1 22:30:37 2011 From: damian.mcmorrow at me.com (Damian McMorrow) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 08:30:37 +1000 Subject: Notification area on the Mac. In-Reply-To: References: <7209D0BD-312D-4722-B54D-99E725A84254@me.com> <0AAED4B3-EC36-4EBE-A836-83EDAA2EC9A5@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <728C66A5-8448-4041-A01B-7E0251F7D37E@me.com> Hi Sarah, I'm not sure I understand? How do you navigate to, and within the status menu using the trackpad? Apologies if I'm missing something obvious. Cheers. Damian. On 02/02/2011, at 7:23 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You cannot how ever access dropbox downloads status that way though. that has to be gotten throughout he status menu and the track pad if you have one. If not I would not know how to access all of the icons in the status menu with out one. > On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > >> If you go to the window chooser menu in finder, (Option control F2-F2) you can very often get to these windows. I had that problem for ages and I'm not sure you can access everything, but it seems to be a good start! >> >> Vaughn. >> On 01/02/2011, at 10:02 PM, Damian McMorrow wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I am relatively new to my Mac, and extremely new to the list. So far I am finding most things fairly easy to work out, but one thing has me a little stumped. >>> Is there a notification area somewhere on the system where you can see the status of running applications, I.E. the status of drop-box uploads and downloads, and other similar notifications? If so, how do you get to it. >>> I've also been told on occasion that there are error messages on my screen relating to some smb shares I have mounted at start-up but for the life of me I can't find any way to get to them with Voiceover in order to clear them. >>> >>> Any suggestions or hints would be gratefully received. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Damian. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From damian.mcmorrow at me.com Tue Feb 1 22:31:48 2011 From: damian.mcmorrow at me.com (Damian McMorrow) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 08:31:48 +1000 Subject: Notification area on the Mac. In-Reply-To: <0AAED4B3-EC36-4EBE-A836-83EDAA2EC9A5@netspace.net.au> References: <7209D0BD-312D-4722-B54D-99E725A84254@me.com> <0AAED4B3-EC36-4EBE-A836-83EDAA2EC9A5@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <3CF0B7BD-1C28-4A45-97EC-DCF762A0FECB@me.com> Hi Vaughn, Thanks for the tip Mate. I'll give that a look. Hope you and Em are well. Damian. On 02/02/2011, at 6:50 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > If you go to the window chooser menu in finder, (Option control F2-F2) you can very often get to these windows. I had that problem for ages and I'm not sure you can access everything, but it seems to be a good start! > > Vaughn. > On 01/02/2011, at 10:02 PM, Damian McMorrow wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am relatively new to my Mac, and extremely new to the list. So far I am finding most things fairly easy to work out, but one thing has me a little stumped. >> Is there a notification area somewhere on the system where you can see the status of running applications, I.E. the status of drop-box uploads and downloads, and other similar notifications? If so, how do you get to it. >> I've also been told on occasion that there are error messages on my screen relating to some smb shares I have mounted at start-up but for the life of me I can't find any way to get to them with Voiceover in order to clear them. >> >> Any suggestions or hints would be gratefully received. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Damian. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 22:43:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:43:58 -0800 Subject: Notification area on the Mac. In-Reply-To: <728C66A5-8448-4041-A01B-7E0251F7D37E@me.com> References: <7209D0BD-312D-4722-B54D-99E725A84254@me.com> <0AAED4B3-EC36-4EBE-A836-83EDAA2EC9A5@netspace.net.au> <728C66A5-8448-4041-A01B-7E0251F7D37E@me.com> Message-ID: <657ECB6E-F520-4C89-ACCD-555E155C85AA@gmail.com> 1. go to the status bar with a double press of vo m. 2. vo cmd f5. 3. lock the vo keys. 4. run your finger along the top of the track pad from right to left slowly and hit f5 to check. 5. when you here dropbox vo shift space and a menu should come up. if not restart vo and try again. S On Feb 1, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Damian McMorrow wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > I'm not sure I understand? How do you navigate to, and within the status menu using the trackpad? > > Apologies if I'm missing something obvious. > > Cheers. > > Damian. > > On 02/02/2011, at 7:23 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> You cannot how ever access dropbox downloads status that way though. that has to be gotten throughout he status menu and the track pad if you have one. If not I would not know how to access all of the icons in the status menu with out one. >> On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote: >> >>> If you go to the window chooser menu in finder, (Option control F2-F2) you can very often get to these windows. I had that problem for ages and I'm not sure you can access everything, but it seems to be a good start! >>> >>> Vaughn. >>> On 01/02/2011, at 10:02 PM, Damian McMorrow wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I am relatively new to my Mac, and extremely new to the list. So far I am finding most things fairly easy to work out, but one thing has me a little stumped. >>>> Is there a notification area somewhere on the system where you can see the status of running applications, I.E. the status of drop-box uploads and downloads, and other similar notifications? If so, how do you get to it. >>>> I've also been told on occasion that there are error messages on my screen relating to some smb shares I have mounted at start-up but for the life of me I can't find any way to get to them with Voiceover in order to clear them. >>>> >>>> Any suggestions or hints would be gratefully received. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Damian. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 23:05:38 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 00:05:38 +0100 Subject: Notification area on the Mac. In-Reply-To: <657ECB6E-F520-4C89-ACCD-555E155C85AA@gmail.com> References: <7209D0BD-312D-4722-B54D-99E725A84254@me.com> <0AAED4B3-EC36-4EBE-A836-83EDAA2EC9A5@netspace.net.au> <728C66A5-8448-4041-A01B-7E0251F7D37E@me.com> <657ECB6E-F520-4C89-ACCD-555E155C85AA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Just an addition to what Sarah already said. When doing this, you will get a much smoother experience if you check the "Speak text under mouse after delay" checkbox and set the slider next to the checkbox to 0.0 seconds. Both of these settings can be found in the VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8, then hit command-2 for Verbosity category. Then, Vo-Right until you find the "Announcements" tab. Use VO-Space to select this tab. Now, simply hit VO-down twice and you should land on the slider determining the delay. Simply set the slider to 0.0 seconds, then VO-left to check the checkbox. This will be a lot more convenient you can simply run your finger along the trackpad without having to check position manually. regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 23:32:59 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:32:59 -0800 Subject: Lawsuit: iPhone users systematically overcharged Message-ID: A lawsuit filed in California alleges that AT&T may be overcharging consumers millions of dollars, comparing the communications giant's data service to a gas station that "charges for a full gallon when it only pumps nine-tenth of a gallon into your tank." View article... From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 00:35:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:35:19 -0800 Subject: Notification area on the Mac. In-Reply-To: References: <7209D0BD-312D-4722-B54D-99E725A84254@me.com> <0AAED4B3-EC36-4EBE-A836-83EDAA2EC9A5@netspace.net.au> <728C66A5-8448-4041-A01B-7E0251F7D37E@me.com> <657ECB6E-F520-4C89-ACCD-555E155C85AA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8F263E5F-D3BD-486E-824A-2736581C0C5F@gmail.com> Ah forgot about that . thanks. S On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Just an addition to what Sarah already said. > > When doing this, you will get a much smoother experience if you check the "Speak text under mouse after delay" checkbox and set the slider next to the checkbox to 0.0 seconds. Both of these settings can be found in the VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8, then hit command-2 for Verbosity category. Then, Vo-Right until you find the "Announcements" tab. Use VO-Space to select this tab. Now, simply hit VO-down twice and you should land on the slider determining the delay. Simply set the slider to 0.0 seconds, then VO-left to check the checkbox. > > This will be a lot more convenient you can simply run your finger along the trackpad without having to check position manually. > > regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 04:01:40 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:01:40 -0600 Subject: Pages: Formatting Message-ID: <01504434-32E5-47A2-BA8A-FF8B3C2E2599@gmail.com> I'm continuing to try and figure out Apple iWork Pages with VoiceOver. I want to give special thanks to Anne and James for there assistance, which has provided me with a much better idea of Pages. * How to center a paragraph? Found that it's possible to do it through the inspector, but it involves many steps, which I'm hoping for a quicker method or shortcut?. * How to change font size? * How to change style set to something, such as Formal. * how to change theme fonts to something, such as Metro font set. * How to change spacing before and after paragraph to something, such as 0 or 12 points. Images * How to insert a centered image? * Apply Relaxed Perspective, White picture style to the inserted picture * Resize picture I look forward to any and all assistance. Thanks, Kevin From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Feb 2 08:45:14 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:45:14 +0000 Subject: messages showing up as attachments rather than in the body? In-Reply-To: <2AE206308217422E8B52C86B946F8B09@andrea78cdd59a> References: <8C9EB886E5F449FA87933B2E00FBA9A5@andrea78cdd59a> <597BDCC7-F3B0-425A-B94D-0B5EB80F5224@mac-access.net> <2AE206308217422E8B52C86B946F8B09@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: Hello Andrea On 1 Feb 2011, at 19:18, Andrea Breier wrote: > ? I just had never experienced this behavior before. And because it was a Mac list I thought that first had to be it. Is there anything I can do about this. I am using the windows platform. Surprise, surprise. LOL From memory, I think there is a certificates setting somewhere in the advanced account properties of Outlook. Although since it's been a long time since I used it I can't really tell you more than that. Also, we need to remember that this is not a Windows list, so we really can't discuss the configuration of Outlook in any detail here. That said, if somebody knows the exact setting I don't think it would do any harm as a one-off, just to get you reading list mail more easily. :) Lynne From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 19:03:19 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:03:19 -0600 Subject: Pages and Formatting: Example of text and what to format Message-ID: I?ll give a real-world example of what I?m trying to accomplish with Pages. I?ll provide text, which should be in document with correct paragraph breaks followed by formatting instructions. There?s an image, which also needs to be inserted and formatted, which I can provide as an attachment. For now, main emphasis is on formatting texct. Airplane Rides? Gain an entirely new vision of Campton by taking an aerial tour. Visitor or local, business or pleasure, the trip will change your view of the city.? Pilots are licensed and experienced? 15-, 30-, or 60-minute tours available during daylight hours? Individual and group rates? Call Scenic Air at 555-9883!? Apply the Heading 1 style to the headline, ?Airplane Rides?. Apply the Heading 2 style to the signature line, ?Call Scenic Air at 555-9883!? Center the headline. Center the signature line. Change the font and font size of the headline to 48-point Arial. Change the font size of body copy between the headline and the signature line to 22 point. Change the font size of the signature line to 28 point. Bullet the three lines of text above the signature line. Bold the text, ?change your view?, in the first paragraph. Italicize the word, ?aerial?, in the first paragraph. Underline the word ?and? in the first bulleted item. Change the style set to Formal. Change the theme fonts to the Metro font set. Change the spacing before the headline to 0 point. Change the spacing after the first paragraph of body copy to 0 point. Change the spacing before the first bulleted paragraph to 12 point. Any and all assistance is appreciated. Thanks, Kevin From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Feb 2 19:20:52 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 19:20:52 +0000 Subject: Pages and Formatting: Example of text and what to format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7EFD15F5-4ABA-4AFF-9871-64B95605A3C6@mac-access.net> Hi Kevin I'm not going to comment on your Pages issues just at the moment, because I'm pushed for time. But please don't try and send your image as an attachment to the group. The list is configured not to accept attachments of any type, and that's deliberate. Gordon From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 19:36:07 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:36:07 -0600 Subject: iWork 09 Numbers: Goal Message-ID: As I am moving along with iWork productivity suite, I've got an example of stuff I'm trying to accomplish with Numbers. These instructions are written for Microsoft Excel 2007, but I'm hoping that they can be translated into iWork 09 Numbers. Can you help? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4861202/Numbers%20and%20Goal.docx Any and all assistance will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kevin From weavermicha at googlemail.com Wed Feb 2 21:00:34 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:00:34 +0000 Subject: answering calls in skype Message-ID: <4d49c58f.5925e30a.693f.02d3@mx.google.com> what is the easiest way to answer calls in skype on the mac? i have just had someone install skype on my macbook recently. From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Feb 2 21:47:14 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:47:14 +0000 Subject: Sending contact requests with Skype 5.0 Message-ID: Hi all Out of curiosity Lynne and I just updated our version of Skype. Actually we were way out of date, as we had version 2.something-or-other, so the new interface has come as a bit of a culture shock to me. :) But I wanted to add a contact to my contact list. I found the contact on Skype, no problem at all. But I cannot find any button to send the contact an authorisation request. I'd appreciate any tips. Excuse my ignorance, but it's been a very long time since I used any version of Skype, and as I said this has come as a bit of a culture shock. Gordon From rafafreundt at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 22:13:00 2011 From: rafafreundt at gmail.com (Rafaela Freundt) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:13:00 -0500 Subject: Sending contact requests with Skype 5.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85F0BEED-0F3E-402F-9FBF-71324C15EB52@gmail.com> Hi, when you search for the contact on skype, and vo arrow right a couple of times, there is a table with three columns and the number of rows of the contacts that matched what you searched for. in the first column is the person's name, then is a blank space, and in the last column there is a add contact button. When you press it the send request dialog box will open. When the contact request has been sent, and later you search for the contact again, that second column blank space I mentioned before will now say contact request has been sent or something similar. hope this helps, Rafaela Freundt E-mail/MSN: rafafreundt at gmail.com Skype: rafafreundt El 02/02/2011, a las 16:47, Gordon Smith escribi?: > Hi all > > Out of curiosity Lynne and I just updated our version of Skype. Actually we were way out of date, as we had version 2.something-or-other, so the new interface has come as a bit of a culture shock to me. :) > > But I wanted to add a contact to my contact list. I found the contact on Skype, no problem at all. But I cannot find any button to send the contact an authorisation request. I'd appreciate any tips. Excuse my ignorance, but it's been a very long time since I used any version of Skype, and as I said this has come as a bit of a culture shock. > > Gordon > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 22:24:52 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:24:52 -0800 Subject: answering calls in skype In-Reply-To: <4d49c58f.5925e30a.693f.02d3@mx.google.com> References: <4d49c58f.5925e30a.693f.02d3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Just hit the except button. It shoudl pop up a window right away where ever the person is. S On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:00 PM, michael weaver wrote: > what is the easiest way to answer calls in skype on the mac? > i have just had someone install skype on my macbook recently. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Feb 2 22:40:21 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:40:21 +0000 Subject: Sending contact requests with Skype 5.0 In-Reply-To: <85F0BEED-0F3E-402F-9FBF-71324C15EB52@gmail.com> References: <85F0BEED-0F3E-402F-9FBF-71324C15EB52@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Bill OK, I didn't notice any add contact button in the table, but I'll go and give it another shot as it's highly probable I simply missed it. Thanks Gordon On 2 Feb 2011, at 22:13, Rafaela Freundt wrote: > Hi, > > when you search for the contact on skype, and vo arrow right a couple of times, there is a table with three columns and the number of rows of the contacts that matched what you searched for. > in the first column is the person's name, then is a blank space, and in the last column there is a add contact button. When you press it the send request dialog box will open. > When the contact request has been sent, and later you search for the contact again, that second column blank space I mentioned before will now say contact request has been sent or something similar. From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Feb 2 22:45:38 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:45:38 +0000 Subject: Viewing Contacts Message-ID: Hi all Skype users How do you view a list of blocked contacts in Skype? I think the contact I'm trying to add must be in the blocked list, because when I find their details the button in the third column of the table is dimmed out. That would seem to indicate that we have the contact in our list but they're not in the main view. Gordon From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 23:13:22 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:13:22 -0800 Subject: Viewing Contacts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4874E4C1-5C54-4869-9853-48F69998693D@gmail.com> There should be a managed blocked users under prefs then privacy. s On Feb 2, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all Skype users > > How do you view a list of blocked contacts in Skype? I think the contact I'm trying to add must be in the blocked list, because when I find their details the button in the third column of the table is dimmed out. > > That would seem to indicate that we have the contact in our list but they're not in the main view. > > Gordon > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Feb 2 23:27:08 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:27:08 +0000 Subject: Viewing Contacts In-Reply-To: <4874E4C1-5C54-4869-9853-48F69998693D@gmail.com> References: <4874E4C1-5C54-4869-9853-48F69998693D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah Yup, just found that. But I'm not sure what's going on because the contact in question isn't listed as blocked either. Very odd. Gordon On 2 Feb 2011, at 23:13, Sarah Alawami wrote: > There should be a managed blocked users under prefs then privacy. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 08:02:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 00:02:15 -0800 Subject: my address book crashes Message-ID: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> Hello. When I create a new contact and Hit cmd s or save from with in the file menu my address book crashes. I don't know who I sent this to already so sorry if this comes through twice but I need a fix. I tried reinstalling from the snl disk twice and using someone else's address book app but still no go. Help? please. If you want I have a recording at http://twaud.io/users/marrie1 Take care From simoncavendish at me.com Thu Feb 3 08:14:49 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:14:49 +0000 Subject: my address book crashes In-Reply-To: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> References: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> Message-ID: <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> Sarah, in my experience, when you finish filling the fields in a new contact details area, you don't have to save it, you just stop interacgting with the scrolldown area and the contact should be in your contact list. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong Hope this will help. Simon On 3 Feb 2011, at 08:02, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. When I create a new contact and Hit cmd s or save from with in the file menu my address book crashes. I don't know who I sent this to already so sorry if this comes through twice but I need a fix. I tried reinstalling from the snl disk twice and using someone else's address book app but still no go. Help? please. If you want I have a recording at > > http://twaud.io/users/marrie1 > > Take care > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 08:44:59 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:44:59 +0100 Subject: my address book crashes In-Reply-To: <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> References: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> Message-ID: <9510F63C-E125-4428-BACE-E11EC535BB3C@gmail.com> Hello Simon, This is exactly the way you say. Also, when you want to edit a contact, you can just select the "Edit" checkbox. This applies to creating a new contact, too. If you wish to finish creating your contact, simply select the "Edit" checkbox and toggle it. There may be shortcuts for this, because I rarely use them. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 08:54:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 00:54:29 -0800 Subject: my address book crashes In-Reply-To: <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> References: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> Message-ID: <1576B5D4-6C8B-45C5-9BE3-863267694644@gmail.com> NOpe it was not there after I quit interacting. it disappeared. That was the first thing I tried actually. S On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:14 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Sarah, in my experience, when you finish filling the fields in a new contact details area, you don't have to save it, you just stop interacgting with the scrolldown area and the contact should be in your contact list. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong Hope this will help. > > Simon > On 3 Feb 2011, at 08:02, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello. When I create a new contact and Hit cmd s or save from with in the file menu my address book crashes. I don't know who I sent this to already so sorry if this comes through twice but I need a fix. I tried reinstalling from the snl disk twice and using someone else's address book app but still no go. Help? please. If you want I have a recording at >> >> http://twaud.io/users/marrie1 >> >> Take care >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 08:58:36 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 00:58:36 -0800 Subject: my address book crashes In-Reply-To: <9510F63C-E125-4428-BACE-E11EC535BB3C@gmail.com> References: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> <9510F63C-E125-4428-BACE-E11EC535BB3C@gmail.com> Message-ID: I tried that and it never took. the contact simply vanashed even though I looked for it. S On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:44 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Simon, > > This is exactly the way you say. Also, when you want to edit a contact, you can just select the "Edit" checkbox. This applies to creating a new contact, too. If you wish to finish creating your contact, simply select the "Edit" checkbox and toggle it. > > There may be shortcuts for this, because I rarely use them. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 09:02:52 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:02:52 +0100 Subject: my address book crashes In-Reply-To: References: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> <9510F63C-E125-4428-BACE-E11EC535BB3C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E67D2AF-9BAA-40D3-9B23-7E660D084D0E@gmail.com> Hi Sarah, Not to offend you, but I highly doubt we have different versions of the Address Book. I just went through exactly the same steps that both Simon and me described, and it works fine. In fact, when I use COmmand-N to create a new contact, it puts me in the "First name" field in a scroll area. Then, I stop interacting, then Vo-right and I have an "Edit" checkbox that is checked. The only thing I can think of is that you have missed it by accident. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From lomaswilliam at googlemail.com Thu Feb 3 09:46:32 2011 From: lomaswilliam at googlemail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:46:32 +0000 Subject: got trackpad Message-ID: <2F9DFDCC-DAB1-42F7-8B69-D8F413E0CC1D@googlemail.com> hi all I got my trackpad do others find voiceover isn't that responsive thoughw hen flicking? I assume the sensitivity is low? From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Thu Feb 3 09:54:39 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:54:39 +0000 Subject: got trackpad In-Reply-To: <2F9DFDCC-DAB1-42F7-8B69-D8F413E0CC1D@googlemail.com> References: <2F9DFDCC-DAB1-42F7-8B69-D8F413E0CC1D@googlemail.com> Message-ID: hi mate hope you enjoy playing with it. Ian McNamara From gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net Thu Feb 3 09:54:48 2011 From: gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:54:48 +0000 Subject: Money and UK Online banking Message-ID: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> Hello everybody This one is probably a difficult one; maybe even impossible. But I will ask anyway, just in case I am wrong. Does anybody happen to know whether there is a piece of software out there which can handle logging on to an online banking site, particularly, the Halifax bank here in the UK, and retrieve/coral ate your bank accounts into a useable format for processing on your Mac? I don't know how the US and overseas bank sites work. But the Halifax here in the UK and, I would assume other banks also, use a two-phase log-in procedure now. You not only have to enter your user ID and password on the initial page, click a "Continue" button, but you then need to select from randomly displayed characters in a pre-defined pass phrase. Failure to do this a given number of times will result in account suspension so that you have to call the bank in order to reset your credentials. This probably makes it impossible to use automated software; but I thought I'd ask anyway. Lynne _______________________________________ Gordon & Lynne Smith; gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 Fax: +44--1642-365-123 We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! From lomaswilliam at googlemail.com Thu Feb 3 10:00:26 2011 From: lomaswilliam at googlemail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:00:26 +0000 Subject: got trackpad In-Reply-To: References: <2F9DFDCC-DAB1-42F7-8B69-D8F413E0CC1D@googlemail.com> Message-ID: got it now it amazing to work with but slow at responding when i flick i guess i can adjust settings On 3 Feb 2011, at 09:54, Ian McNamara wrote: > hi mate hope you enjoy playing with it. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Feb 3 10:01:04 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:01:04 +0000 Subject: Money and UK Online banking In-Reply-To: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> References: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <66017E2C-FCBD-4B39-ADAB-62F806D86505@computing.dcu.ie> Hi Lynne, We have similar banking institutions over here in Ireland. I had a look for something like this and didn't come across anything that looked trustworthy. When you say Halifax want certain characters from the pass-phrase, I presume you get something like: "please enter the 4th character followed by the second character, from your pass-phrase" or something like that? If so, AIB over here uses something similar; but I've had no problems with it. The awkward one for me has been Rabo Bank who use a very strange two-phase login procedure. With them, you enter your username and then use a device to generate a pin which you must type in. The device is a small hand-held thing. Not helpful at all really. D?nal On 3 Feb 2011, at 09:54, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > This one is probably a difficult one; maybe even impossible. But I will ask anyway, just in case I am wrong. > > Does anybody happen to know whether there is a piece of software out there which can handle logging on to an online banking site, particularly, the Halifax bank here in the UK, and retrieve/coral ate your bank accounts into a useable format for processing on your Mac? > > I don't know how the US and overseas bank sites work. But the Halifax here in the UK and, I would assume other banks also, use a two-phase log-in procedure now. You not only have to enter your user ID and password on the initial page, click a "Continue" button, but you then need to select from randomly displayed characters in a pre-defined pass phrase. Failure to do this a given number of times will result in account suspension so that you have to call the bank in order to reset your credentials. > > This probably makes it impossible to use automated software; but I thought I'd ask anyway. > > Lynne > > > > _______________________________________ > > Gordon & Lynne Smith; > gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net > > VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET > MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 > Fax: +44--1642-365-123 > > We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 10:27:17 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:27:17 +0100 Subject: Money and UK Online banking In-Reply-To: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> References: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <36B23622-8550-478B-8D0A-E821AB2C285E@gmail.com> Hello Gordon, I have a program called iBank which you have to pay for, although a demo vesion exists. I cannot remember off-hand what the trial permits you to do, so sorry. I do know that it supports thousands of banking institutions, so perhaps this may be a solution for you. Originally, my bank was not supported, but my banking institution has a URL which software can use to retrieve information. There is a specific name for this, but I can't remember at the moment. If your bank supports this kind of software similar to Quicken, it may work. If your institution is not listed, you can contact their support which, I will say, is very very excellent. In fact, as soon as I contacted the company, they added the URl right away and I recreated a document. Every time you create a new document, it will download a new database of institutions to select from. You can also select which type of account it is, such as checking, credit card, etc and it will retrieve only those specific institutions. It allows you to handle your bank account, such as retrieving billing statements, sending and receiving bills, sending and rceiving money requests, checking your ballance, and a lot more. The accessibility is excellent, or at least, that is what I have found. I hope this helps you out. If this is what you need but your institution is not supported, give the support team at IGG Software a try. Here is their site: http://www.iggsoftware.com/ They can provide the proper name for the URL for you, so that your bank can deliver the desire information if they support it. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 10:37:31 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:37:31 +0100 Subject: Money and UK Online banking In-Reply-To: <36B23622-8550-478B-8D0A-E821AB2C285E@gmail.com> References: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> <36B23622-8550-478B-8D0A-E821AB2C285E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello again, Oh, and sorry for the spam. Heh. I actually do remember, I just forgot to change it above. :) The trial is a thirty-day demo. You can use all features for thirty days, and when the trial is up, you can use it for five minutes before having to restart the application. You can purchase iBank for $59.95 which includes a single user license. They also have mobile products, and I would suspect for the iPhone as well which includes syncing. I can't say if this is true or not as I have not delved into that area, but I would assume so. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Feb 3 11:18:52 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:18:52 +0000 Subject: VoiceOver Prefs screwed up! Message-ID: <5D63885D-C416-44A5-84BA-90624A59C41E@mac-access.net> Hi all On our MBP, my VoiceOver prefs file seems to be corrupted. I cannot sae VoiceOver settings, they just won't sti k when I try. Can somebody remind me of which file or files I need to delete and re-create in order to fix this irritating problem? I really dislike some of Apple's default settings. Gordon From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Feb 3 11:29:51 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:29:51 +0000 Subject: VoiceOver Prefs screwed up! In-Reply-To: <5D63885D-C416-44A5-84BA-90624A59C41E@mac-access.net> References: <5D63885D-C416-44A5-84BA-90624A59C41E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2C4106D0-A173-4479-913D-B1782338FA5B@mac-access.net> Hi Gordon, On 3 Feb 2011, at 11:18, Gordon Smith wrote: > Can somebody remind me of which file or files I need to delete and re-create in order to fix this irritating problem? I really dislike some of Apple's default settings. Go to ~/Library/Preferences and remove the two following files; com.apple.VoiceOver3.plist com.apple.VoiceOver3.local.plist This should solve your problem. It might also be an idea to keep a copy of your Voice Over preferences once you've reset them all to what you normally use. Take care :) James Hi all > > > On our MBP, my VoiceOver prefs file seems to be corrupted. I cannot sae VoiceOver settings, they just won't sti k when I try. > > Can somebody remind me of which file or files I need to delete and re-create in order to fix this irritating problem? I really dislike some of Apple's default settings. > > Gordon > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Feb 3 11:44:33 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:44:33 +0000 Subject: Money and UK Online banking In-Reply-To: <66017E2C-FCBD-4B39-ADAB-62F806D86505@computing.dcu.ie> References: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> <66017E2C-FCBD-4B39-ADAB-62F806D86505@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <0307F165-F403-47A1-85BF-DA8958390B2C@blueyonder.co.uk> I have that hand held thing, they call it PIN sentry. Fortunately I bank with Barclays and they supplied a talking one which you can also plug headphones into. So not all bad. I am looking forward to the forth coming iPhone app though. On 3 Feb 2011, at 10:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > We have similar banking institutions over here in Ireland. I had a look for something like this and didn't come across anything that looked trustworthy. When you say Halifax want certain characters from the pass-phrase, I presume you get something like: > > "please enter the 4th character followed by the second character, from your pass-phrase" or something like that? If so, AIB over here uses something similar; but I've had no problems with it. The awkward one for me has been Rabo Bank who use a very strange two-phase login procedure. With them, you enter your username and then use a device to generate a pin which you must type in. The device is a small hand-held thing. Not helpful at all really. > > D?nal > On 3 Feb 2011, at 09:54, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> This one is probably a difficult one; maybe even impossible. But I will ask anyway, just in case I am wrong. >> >> Does anybody happen to know whether there is a piece of software out there which can handle logging on to an online banking site, particularly, the Halifax bank here in the UK, and retrieve/coral ate your bank accounts into a useable format for processing on your Mac? >> >> I don't know how the US and overseas bank sites work. But the Halifax here in the UK and, I would assume other banks also, use a two-phase log-in procedure now. You not only have to enter your user ID and password on the initial page, click a "Continue" button, but you then need to select from randomly displayed characters in a pre-defined pass phrase. Failure to do this a given number of times will result in account suspension so that you have to call the bank in order to reset your credentials. >> >> This probably makes it impossible to use automated software; but I thought I'd ask anyway. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> Gordon & Lynne Smith; >> gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net >> >> VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET >> MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 >> Fax: +44--1642-365-123 >> >> We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Thu Feb 3 12:11:26 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 07:11:26 -0500 Subject: Path for Voiceover sounds? Message-ID: A friend and I want to coordinate to convert some existing sounds he put together into a Voiceover sound scheme. He has WIndows; I have a Mac. Only I can't figure out where the Voiceover sounds are stored to change them. I can find them on iOS, but I can't on OS X. Any ideas? Rose From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Feb 3 12:15:17 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:15:17 +0000 Subject: Money and UK Online banking In-Reply-To: <66017E2C-FCBD-4B39-ADAB-62F806D86505@computing.dcu.ie> References: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> <66017E2C-FCBD-4B39-ADAB-62F806D86505@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <3A2DF31C-C61D-4B56-A9CD-D39BEE602EDA@mac-access.net> Hi No, I think you've misunderstood Lynne's question. She wants a piec e of banking software, so that she can programme our pass phrase into it and have it used. The Halifax uses a two-stage log-in. The first stage is where you enter your name and password. Then, you click the continue button. The second stage presents you with 3 combo boxes, in which you select the appropriate 3 characters in your pass phrase. Does that make things more clear? Gordon On 3 Feb 2011, at 10:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > We have similar banking institutions over here in Ireland. I had a look for something like this and didn't come across anything that looked trustworthy. When you say Halifax want certain characters from the pass-phrase, I presume you get something like: > > "please enter the 4th character followed by the second character, from your pass-phrase" or something like that? If so, AIB over here uses something similar; but I've had no problems with it. The awkward one for me has been Rabo Bank who use a very strange two-phase login procedure. With them, you enter your username and then use a device to generate a pin which you must type in. The device is a small hand-held thing. Not helpful at all really. > > D?nal > On 3 Feb 2011, at 09:54, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> This one is probably a difficult one; maybe even impossible. But I will ask anyway, just in case I am wrong. >> >> Does anybody happen to know whether there is a piece of software out there which can handle logging on to an online banking site, particularly, the Halifax bank here in the UK, and retrieve/coral ate your bank accounts into a useable format for processing on your Mac? >> >> I don't know how the US and overseas bank sites work. But the Halifax here in the UK and, I would assume other banks also, use a two-phase log-in procedure now. You not only have to enter your user ID and password on the initial page, click a "Continue" button, but you then need to select from randomly displayed characters in a pre-defined pass phrase. Failure to do this a given number of times will result in account suspension so that you have to call the bank in order to reset your credentials. >> >> This probably makes it impossible to use automated software; but I thought I'd ask anyway. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> Gordon & Lynne Smith; >> gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net >> >> VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET >> MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 >> Fax: +44--1642-365-123 >> >> We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Feb 3 12:59:32 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:59:32 +0000 Subject: Money and UK Online banking In-Reply-To: <36B23622-8550-478B-8D0A-E821AB2C285E@gmail.com> References: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> <36B23622-8550-478B-8D0A-E821AB2C285E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B879040-1374-40A3-9391-059A5FB1D8C4@mac-access.net> Hi Nic On 3 Feb 2011, at 10:27, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > ? I have a program called iBank which you have to pay for, although a demo vesion exists. I cannot remember off-hand what the trial permits you to do, so sorry. > Did you buy it in the app store, or direct from IGG? Their shopping cart is a little odd. It's a shame they don't accept PayPal, but that's life. > ? I do know that it supports thousands of banking institutions, so perhaps this may be a solution for you. Originally, my bank was not supported, but my banking institution has a URL which software can use to retrieve information. There is a specific name for this, but I can't remember at the moment. If your bank supports this kind of software similar to Quicken, it may work. > The only problem I see might be the log-in unless they can use a different URL for software log-in. I will contact their support. > ? If your institution is not listed, you can contact their support which, I will say, is very very excellent. In fact, as soon as I contacted the company, they added the URl right away and I recreated a document. Every time you create a new document, it will download a new database of institutions to select from. You can also select which type of account it is, such as checking, credit card, etc and it will retrieve only those specific institutions. > That sounds excellent. > ? It allows you to handle your bank account, such as retrieving billing statements, sending and receiving bills, sending and rceiving money requests, checking your ballance, and a lot more. The accessibility is excellent, or at least, that is what I have found. > If this works it might be the answer to our problem. I'm off to give it a try! Thanks ever so much. Gordon From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Feb 3 13:20:35 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:20:35 +0000 Subject: VoiceOver Prefs screwed up! In-Reply-To: <2C4106D0-A173-4479-913D-B1782338FA5B@mac-access.net> References: <5D63885D-C416-44A5-84BA-90624A59C41E@mac-access.net> <2C4106D0-A173-4479-913D-B1782338FA5B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <138F0329-9811-4FD1-90D9-5D229199E11F@mac-access.net> Hi James The problem seems to have finally fixed itself. But yes, if I can stop Finder giving me busy messages in that folder i'll do that. I have a lot of preference files which I have no idea what they are. They all start with com.apple.iapp.plist.* so that has me a bit stumped. But I'll definitely go and get a copy of those preferences made. Gordon On 3 Feb 2011, at 11:29, James AUSTIN wrote: > Go to ~/Library/Preferences and remove the two following files; > > com.apple.VoiceOver3.plist > com.apple.VoiceOver3.local.plist From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Feb 3 13:28:56 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:28:56 +0000 Subject: VoiceOver Prefs screwed up! In-Reply-To: <138F0329-9811-4FD1-90D9-5D229199E11F@mac-access.net> References: <5D63885D-C416-44A5-84BA-90624A59C41E@mac-access.net> <2C4106D0-A173-4479-913D-B1782338FA5B@mac-access.net> <138F0329-9811-4FD1-90D9-5D229199E11F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Gordon, if you want any help, drop me a note off-list. Glad to help TC James On 3 Feb 2011, at 13:20, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi James > > The problem seems to have finally fixed itself. But yes, if I can stop Finder giving me busy messages in that folder i'll do that. > > I have a lot of preference files which I have no idea what they are. They all start with com.apple.iapp.plist.* so that has me a bit stumped. > > But I'll definitely go and get a copy of those preferences made. > > Gordon > > On 3 Feb 2011, at 11:29, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Go to ~/Library/Preferences and remove the two following files; >> >> com.apple.VoiceOver3.plist >> com.apple.VoiceOver3.local.plist > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Feb 3 13:38:01 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:38:01 +0000 Subject: VoiceOver Prefs screwed up! In-Reply-To: References: <5D63885D-C416-44A5-84BA-90624A59C41E@mac-access.net> <2C4106D0-A173-4479-913D-B1782338FA5B@mac-access.net> <138F0329-9811-4FD1-90D9-5D229199E11F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3BF2F330-7BBF-4CBF-8D0E-13FADD716247@mac-access.net> Hi James I'm fine now, thanks. Just wasn't sure of the file(s) that VoiceOver used. Gordon On 3 Feb 2011, at 13:28, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Gordon, if you want any help, drop me a note off-list. > > Glad to help > TC > James > On 3 Feb 2011, at 13:20, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi James >> >> The problem seems to have finally fixed itself. But yes, if I can stop Finder giving me busy messages in that folder i'll do that. >> >> I have a lot of preference files which I have no idea what they are. They all start with com.apple.iapp.plist.* so that has me a bit stumped. >> >> But I'll definitely go and get a copy of those preferences made. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 3 Feb 2011, at 11:29, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Go to ~/Library/Preferences and remove the two following files; >>> >>> com.apple.VoiceOver3.plist >>> com.apple.VoiceOver3.local.plist >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 13:44:12 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 07:44:12 -0600 Subject: KeyNote: Details of Goal Message-ID: As I progress through iWork suite, I?m interested in figuring out KeyNote. I do appreciate those who have provided help with Pages. I?m still looking for some more help on Numbers. But, along side that, am very interested in KeyNote. Below, I've provided an example of what I'm trying to accomplish. Note: All examples are images 1. Change the theme of the presentation to Aspect. 2. Using the typed text in the box below, create the title slide shown in the example. (Note: You will apply the text formatting in steps 4-6.) Give Yourself Some Credit Understanding Your Credit Report Marc Kantlon Economics 101 3. Italicize the name Marc Kantlon. 4. Decrease the font size of the title paragraph, Give Yourself Some Credit, to 40. 5. Increase the font size of the first paragraph of the subtitle text, Understanding Your Credit Report, to 28. 6. Using the typed text in the box below, create Slide 2 as a Title and Content slide with a bulleted list as shown in the example. Credit Report Fundamentals ? Generated by three companies ? Experian, Equifax, TransUnion ? Factors ? How much you owe to each company ? Payment history for each company ? Includes utilities, medical expenses, rent Save your changes. 7. Using the typed text in the box below, create Slide 3 as a Title and Content slide with a bulleted list as shown in the example. How FICO Is Calculated ? Range ? 760 (excellent) to 620 (poor) ? 35% - Payment history ? 30% - Amounts owed ? 15% - Credit history length ? 10% - New credit ? 10% - Credit types 8. Using the typed text in the box below, create Slide 4 as a Title and Content slide with a bulleted list as shown in the example. Improve Your FICO Score ? Pay bills on time ? Avoid opening many new accounts ? Open only if you intend to use ? Keep balances low ? Less than 25% of credit limit ? Review credit report yearly 9. On Slide 3, change the font color of the number, 760, to green in the Standard Colors and the number, 620, to red in the Standard Colors. Any and all assistance are appreciated. Thanks, Kevin From lomaswilliam at googlemail.com Thu Feb 3 15:39:17 2011 From: lomaswilliam at googlemail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:39:17 +0000 Subject: mail and trackpad Message-ID: <509AC748-21BE-416D-BFC3-20DDFC498541@googlemail.com> hi all how do people open mails with trackpad commander? WHen I find one I want i double tap but nothing happening? From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Thu Feb 3 16:15:15 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:15:15 +0000 Subject: Money and UK Online banking In-Reply-To: <66017E2C-FCBD-4B39-ADAB-62F806D86505@computing.dcu.ie> References: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> <66017E2C-FCBD-4B39-ADAB-62F806D86505@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: hi i use the halifax online banking and find it fine i log in with user name then password then continue then after that its three drop down boxes i have found that when you get to that page just tab till you hear then it will say what character then arrow down to the one you want and then tab again and so on i find it good well at the moment anyway not sure if thats any help or what you needed to know tc jules On 3 Feb 2011, at 10:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > We have similar banking institutions over here in Ireland. I had a look for something like this and didn't come across anything that looked trustworthy. When you say Halifax want certain characters from the pass-phrase, I presume you get something like: > > "please enter the 4th character followed by the second character, from your pass-phrase" or something like that? If so, AIB over here uses something similar; but I've had no problems with it. The awkward one for me has been Rabo Bank who use a very strange two-phase login procedure. With them, you enter your username and then use a device to generate a pin which you must type in. The device is a small hand-held thing. Not helpful at all really. > > D?nal > On 3 Feb 2011, at 09:54, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> This one is probably a difficult one; maybe even impossible. But I will ask anyway, just in case I am wrong. >> >> Does anybody happen to know whether there is a piece of software out there which can handle logging on to an online banking site, particularly, the Halifax bank here in the UK, and retrieve/coral ate your bank accounts into a useable format for processing on your Mac? >> >> I don't know how the US and overseas bank sites work. But the Halifax here in the UK and, I would assume other banks also, use a two-phase log-in procedure now. You not only have to enter your user ID and password on the initial page, click a "Continue" button, but you then need to select from randomly displayed characters in a pre-defined pass phrase. Failure to do this a given number of times will result in account suspension so that you have to call the bank in order to reset your credentials. >> >> This probably makes it impossible to use automated software; but I thought I'd ask anyway. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> Gordon & Lynne Smith; >> gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net >> >> VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET >> MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 >> Fax: +44--1642-365-123 >> >> We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Feb 3 18:02:33 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 18:02:33 +0000 Subject: How to find an App in the App store? Message-ID: <4E6058A2-E79D-4304-87CD-7733CCFEB544@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, If someone tells you the name of a good MAC APP how can I find it in the APP store? I am talking about the APP Store for iMac and the like rather than APP store for the iPhone / iPad. It is easy to find a desired APP in the iPhone APP store but I cannot find an APP which I know is there in the iMac APP store. I tried entering its name in the search string in the Toolbar but that did not seem to do anything. I am probably being a bit thick but I just can't fathom it out. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From simoncavendish at me.com Thu Feb 3 18:16:17 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:16:17 +0000 Subject: mail and trackpad In-Reply-To: <509AC748-21BE-416D-BFC3-20DDFC498541@googlemail.com> References: <509AC748-21BE-416D-BFC3-20DDFC498541@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <0681CA13-1A01-4103-B6D1-77F6382B60C3@me.com> Dear William, I have experienced the same thing. The way I go around it for now is to do the following. 1. Assuming you have interacted with the message table by flicking two fingers to the right, you can then flick up and down with one finger to go through the rows in your columns and flick right and left with one figner to go from column to column. As you flick, I think what you lend on is being highlighted, ready to perform action. 2. Once you find the message you want, now you have two tap twice with two fingers at the top of the trackpad in the middle of the top part which will open the menu bar of the application you are in. You can then one-finger flick to the right till you hear "file". 3. Flick one-finger down and you will hear the familiar sound for when a menu is being opened. Continued flicking up and down to go through the choices. Once you find "open", double-tap with one finger and your message will open. you can close your message content in going through the steps as above. Remember, if you want to leave a menu, I mean any menu, scratch your trackpad with two fingers up and down and the menu will close. It's like pressing escape. I've just looked at the trackpad commander today, I think that once I get better at gestures, one could assign additional gestures which would open and close your windows by applying one gesture only. You need to explore it and make sure you remember or make a record of your custom-made gestures. Hope this helps. Simon On 3 Feb 2011, at 15:39, william lomas wrote: > hi all how do people open mails with trackpad commander? > WHen I find one I want i double tap but nothing happening? > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Thu Feb 3 19:07:08 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:07:08 +0000 Subject: got trackpad In-Reply-To: References: <2F9DFDCC-DAB1-42F7-8B69-D8F413E0CC1D@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <13A1F549-D36A-4A1F-904C-A6A35FFD8096@googlemail.com> Hi Will! that sounds totally awesome, I hope you manage to get some really good use out of it. Lewis. On 3 Feb 2011, at 09:54, Ian McNamara wrote: > hi mate hope you enjoy playing with it. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lomaswilliam at googlemail.com Thu Feb 3 19:26:43 2011 From: lomaswilliam at googlemail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:26:43 +0000 Subject: mail and trackpad In-Reply-To: <0681CA13-1A01-4103-B6D1-77F6382B60C3@me.com> References: <509AC748-21BE-416D-BFC3-20DDFC498541@googlemail.com> <0681CA13-1A01-4103-B6D1-77F6382B60C3@me.com> Message-ID: may be quicker simon to just flick to a message enter read close, flick enter read close etc On 3 Feb 2011, at 18:16, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Dear William, > > I have experienced the same thing. The way I go around it for now is to do the following. > > 1. Assuming you have interacted with the message table by flicking two fingers to the right, you can then flick up and down with one finger to go through the rows in your columns and flick right and left with one figner to go from column to column. As you flick, I think what you lend on is being highlighted, ready to perform action. > > 2. Once you find the message you want, now you have two tap twice with two fingers at the top of the trackpad in the middle of the top part which will open the menu bar of the application you are in. You can then one-finger flick to the right till you hear "file". > > 3. Flick one-finger down and you will hear the familiar sound for when a menu is being opened. Continued flicking up and down to go through the choices. Once you find "open", double-tap with one finger and your message will open. you can close your message content in going through the steps as above. Remember, if you want to leave a menu, I mean any menu, scratch your trackpad with two fingers up and down and the menu will close. It's like pressing escape. > > I've just looked at the trackpad commander today, I think that once I get better at gestures, one could assign additional gestures which would open and close your windows by applying one gesture only. You need to explore it and make sure you remember or make a record of your custom-made gestures. > > Hope this helps. > > Simon > On 3 Feb 2011, at 15:39, william lomas wrote: > >> hi all how do people open mails with trackpad commander? >> WHen I find one I want i double tap but nothing happening? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 19:40:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:40:53 -0800 Subject: my address book crashes In-Reply-To: <4E67D2AF-9BAA-40D3-9B23-7E660D084D0E@gmail.com> References: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> <9510F63C-E125-4428-BACE-E11EC535BB3C@gmail.com> <4E67D2AF-9BAA-40D3-9B23-7E660D084D0E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0BBF6751-095A-4D22-89A8-2C22F560BA4E@gmail.com> Hmm odd when I unchecked the chck box the contact disappeared. I cannot find it no mater what I do. and I used to be able to hit cmd s and it would save the contact and give me an empty scrol area. On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Not to offend you, but I highly doubt we have different versions of the Address Book. > > I just went through exactly the same steps that both Simon and me described, and it works fine. In fact, when I use COmmand-N to create a new contact, it puts me in the "First name" field in a scroll area. Then, I stop interacting, then Vo-right and I have an "Edit" checkbox that is checked. The only thing I can think of is that you have missed it by accident. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 19:53:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:53:27 -0800 Subject: my address book crashes In-Reply-To: <4E67D2AF-9BAA-40D3-9B23-7E660D084D0E@gmail.com> References: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> <9510F63C-E125-4428-BACE-E11EC535BB3C@gmail.com> <4E67D2AF-9BAA-40D3-9B23-7E660D084D0E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ok Now even unchecking the edit card box causes the address book app to crash. Help please? On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Not to offend you, but I highly doubt we have different versions of the Address Book. > > I just went through exactly the same steps that both Simon and me described, and it works fine. In fact, when I use COmmand-N to create a new contact, it puts me in the "First name" field in a scroll area. Then, I stop interacting, then Vo-right and I have an "Edit" checkbox that is checked. The only thing I can think of is that you have missed it by accident. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Feb 3 19:57:45 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:57:45 +0000 Subject: my address book crashes In-Reply-To: References: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> <9510F63C-E125-4428-BACE-E11EC535BB3C@gmail.com> <4E67D2AF-9BAA-40D3-9B23-7E660D084D0E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah, I've tried Address Book here and it works fine except for the known bugs that already exist and they are VO-related. I suggest that you go into the "File" menu of AB and export your AB as an archive. After this, go and remove the com.apple.AddressBook.plist file from your Library, as it sounds like they are corrupt. Hope this helps TC :) James On 3 Feb 2011, at 19:53, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Ok Now even unchecking the edit card box causes the address book app to crash. Help please? > On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Not to offend you, but I highly doubt we have different versions of the Address Book. >> >> I just went through exactly the same steps that both Simon and me described, and it works fine. In fact, when I use COmmand-N to create a new contact, it puts me in the "First name" field in a scroll area. Then, I stop interacting, then Vo-right and I have an "Edit" checkbox that is checked. The only thing I can think of is that you have missed it by accident. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 20:11:42 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:11:42 -0800 Subject: Verizon quietly begins throttling data as iPhone launch looms: Message-ID: <4D951C25-9505-42F9-81A7-199A20DF52A2@gmail.com> Is this fair to customers? will the iphone users get throttled as well? Read more: http://t.co/1ZKjbH8 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 20:17:51 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:17:51 -0800 Subject: my address book crashes In-Reply-To: References: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> <9510F63C-E125-4428-BACE-E11EC535BB3C@gmail.com> <4E67D2AF-9BAA-40D3-9B23-7E660D084D0E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E3503DE-34D4-4F79-ACDB-D79F6D66FCE4@gmail.com> Oh it stays there even when I uninstall but I'll do that just in case. I'll be mad if I loose these addresses. I'll try removing the plist files again and see what happens. I did that last night actually. On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:57 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > I've tried Address Book here and it works fine except for the known bugs that already exist and they are VO-related. > > I suggest that you go into the "File" menu of AB and export your AB as an archive. After this, go and remove the com.apple.AddressBook.plist file from your Library, as it sounds like they are corrupt. > > Hope this helps > TC :) > James > On 3 Feb 2011, at 19:53, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ok Now even unchecking the edit card box causes the address book app to crash. Help please? >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> Not to offend you, but I highly doubt we have different versions of the Address Book. >>> >>> I just went through exactly the same steps that both Simon and me described, and it works fine. In fact, when I use COmmand-N to create a new contact, it puts me in the "First name" field in a scroll area. Then, I stop interacting, then Vo-right and I have an "Edit" checkbox that is checked. The only thing I can think of is that you have missed it by accident. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 20:21:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:21:27 -0800 Subject: my address book crashes In-Reply-To: References: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> <9510F63C-E125-4428-BACE-E11EC535BB3C@gmail.com> <4E67D2AF-9BAA-40D3-9B23-7E660D084D0E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm sad to say that failed. it still crashes when I uncheck edit card. and I removed the plist files. When I opened addressbook.app all of my contacts where still there which was good. lol! but I can't as of now add any new ones. Any othe r suggestions? S On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:57 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > I've tried Address Book here and it works fine except for the known bugs that already exist and they are VO-related. > > I suggest that you go into the "File" menu of AB and export your AB as an archive. After this, go and remove the com.apple.AddressBook.plist file from your Library, as it sounds like they are corrupt. > > Hope this helps > TC :) > James > On 3 Feb 2011, at 19:53, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ok Now even unchecking the edit card box causes the address book app to crash. Help please? >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> Not to offend you, but I highly doubt we have different versions of the Address Book. >>> >>> I just went through exactly the same steps that both Simon and me described, and it works fine. In fact, when I use COmmand-N to create a new contact, it puts me in the "First name" field in a scroll area. Then, I stop interacting, then Vo-right and I have an "Edit" checkbox that is checked. The only thing I can think of is that you have missed it by accident. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! 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Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 21:01:41 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:01:41 -0800 Subject: my address book crashes In-Reply-To: References: <4BCEDE2F-20B8-4E0C-A086-B2B1CCAA1075@gmail.com> <445C4A07-0157-4788-AADD-D81BC904C6A4@me.com> <9510F63C-E125-4428-BACE-E11EC535BB3C@gmail.com> <4E67D2AF-9BAA-40D3-9B23-7E660D084D0E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201DAE74-E3F6-46A7-AD55-E2C4559595BB@gmail.com> Got it! Here is a website explaining what I did. Someone on twitter actually has been helping me for a few days with this now. http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20071118134839992 Enjoy. On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:57 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > I've tried Address Book here and it works fine except for the known bugs that already exist and they are VO-related. > > I suggest that you go into the "File" menu of AB and export your AB as an archive. After this, go and remove the com.apple.AddressBook.plist file from your Library, as it sounds like they are corrupt. > > Hope this helps > TC :) > James > On 3 Feb 2011, at 19:53, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ok Now even unchecking the edit card box causes the address book app to crash. Help please? >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> Not to offend you, but I highly doubt we have different versions of the Address Book. >>> >>> I just went through exactly the same steps that both Simon and me described, and it works fine. In fact, when I use COmmand-N to create a new contact, it puts me in the "First name" field in a scroll area. Then, I stop interacting, then Vo-right and I have an "Edit" checkbox that is checked. The only thing I can think of is that you have missed it by accident. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Thu Feb 3 23:14:37 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:14:37 +0000 Subject: transfering music to the i-phone Message-ID: <4d4b3676.0504d90a.6a9c.02e0@mx.google.com> i am trying to transfer more music to my i-phone and add to the one artist and albums i have on it already. when i attach my i-phone i get sync in progress messages etc and when i put in a cd i am asked if i want to import to the i-tunes library but i can't seem to be able to get the songs from the library to the i-phone itself. i even tried doing a select from the music source etc and copying the songs to the clipboard and going to where my i-pod is listed and doing a paste but that doesn't even seem to be working. i tabbed through the options under the source for my i-pod and checked the checkbox about syncing music and still nothing and i have even tried pressing the sync button. the songs for my new cd are certainly there in the library but they don't seem to be going to the i-phone even though i hear the usual beeps like it is syncing them. i am wondering what is going wrong? From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 01:57:35 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 20:57:35 -0500 Subject: transfering music to the i-phone In-Reply-To: <4d4b3676.0504d90a.6a9c.02e0@mx.google.com> References: <4d4b3676.0504d90a.6a9c.02e0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <7BB222D0-4C91-4D4C-9A0A-D3B46FF5F67A@gmail.com> You can find this information , step by step, in the iPhone user guide. On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:14 PM, michael weaver wrote: > i am trying to transfer more music to my i-phone and add to the one artist and albums i have on it already. > when i attach my i-phone i get sync in progress messages etc and when i put in a cd i am asked if i want to import to the i-tunes library but i can't seem to be able to get the songs from the library to the i-phone itself. > i even tried doing a select from the music source etc and copying the songs to the clipboard and going to where my i-pod is listed and doing a paste but that doesn't even seem to be working. > i tabbed through the options under the source for my i-pod and checked the checkbox about syncing music and still nothing and i have even tried pressing the sync button. > the songs for my new cd are certainly there in the library but they don't seem to be going to the i-phone even though i hear the usual beeps like it is syncing them. > i am wondering what is going wrong? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chad.rohr at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 04:14:57 2011 From: chad.rohr at gmail.com (Chad Rohr) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:14:57 -0600 Subject: streaming music to the mac Message-ID: <4E39BDA1-D909-4EA8-A50D-96D61B6ABD57@gmail.com> This may be a weird question but is there any way to stream music from an iPhone to a mac. I am going to purchase another one soon and don't want to put my music on it. It's going to be the macbook air. I looked around a bit but couldn't find anything. Chad Rohr From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 05:14:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 21:14:39 -0800 Subject: streaming music to the mac In-Reply-To: <4E39BDA1-D909-4EA8-A50D-96D61B6ABD57@gmail.com> References: <4E39BDA1-D909-4EA8-A50D-96D61B6ABD57@gmail.com> Message-ID: <119EA43A-911C-4ACE-A4C3-1549BF76E8B6@gmail.com> Hmm good question. I guess you can try itunes DJ but I'm not sure how that works.. Good luck On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:14 PM, Chad Rohr wrote: > This may be a weird question but is there any way to stream music from an iPhone to a mac. > I am going to purchase another one soon and don't want to put my music on it. It's going to be the macbook air. > I looked around a bit but couldn't find anything. > > Chad Rohr > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lomaswilliam at googlemail.com Fri Feb 4 06:51:20 2011 From: lomaswilliam at googlemail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 06:51:20 +0000 Subject: magic mouse Message-ID: <3FF4E08B-8973-42CD-9AB7-A596E6315EF5@googlemail.com> hi all, i wish to sell my magic mouse as I use the trackpad anyways now that I bought. If I disconnect it from the bluetooth menu how can I ensure it can be paired with another computer and not my own? I.e. at the moment will lomases mouse menu is still up with mouse prefs and connect From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Feb 4 07:04:10 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:04:10 +0000 Subject: don't know weather there are any gamers on this list but thought i would pass this on. Message-ID: hello all don't know weather there are any gamers on this list but thought i would pass this info on as there are some accessable games just been released for ipod iphone and ipad. not tried them my self yet. info follows. Ian McNamara > Greetings All, > > Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide in the App Store and in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were instrumental in providing input, feedback and other information to Marcel during this process. > > Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I believe Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one hundred percent. > > I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard and Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate the board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around the board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if one occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece you want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's accessible form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it is a very feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it fully accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps provide feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the accessibility features. > > Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122 From lomaswilliam at googlemail.com Fri Feb 4 07:09:31 2011 From: lomaswilliam at googlemail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:09:31 +0000 Subject: don't know weather there are any gamers on this list but thought i would pass this on. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61A00C9D-793C-4AC1-8B85-CE76A7F16A04@googlemail.com> all i have to do now is learn how to play these games lol rmeember they are the first versions of the programs with far richer features apparently On 4 Feb 2011, at 07:04, Ian McNamara wrote: >> Xiangqi-wise From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Feb 4 07:14:24 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:14:24 +0000 Subject: don't know weather there are any gamers on this list but thought i would pass this on. In-Reply-To: <61A00C9D-793C-4AC1-8B85-CE76A7F16A04@googlemail.com> References: <61A00C9D-793C-4AC1-8B85-CE76A7F16A04@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <0F8D0EA7-0F65-45F4-9C06-7949023655D8@googlemail.com> i can play drafts pritty well as it's quite an easy game to master. i struggle with chess though i do sort of get the basics. Ian McNamara. From support at mac-access.net Fri Feb 4 08:43:21 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:43:21 +0000 Subject: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch References: <6A2359FF-7945-40BE-9FD6-CE8B0FE05271@me.com> Message-ID: <97843C6B-AE90-417C-97EF-EE4E01797EF9@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Ordinarily, we do discourage strongly the cross-posting of messages to this group. However, in this case, we feel it would be advantageous for our members to have this information. We apologise if you have seen this elsewhere. Also, we thank Bryan Jones for his courtesy in forwarding this to us before posting to the group. We appreciate that greatly, Bryan. We hope that this will make group members understand that, contrary to what a certain Mr. Taylor might have you believe, we are not inflexible and unreasonable. Below is the message. >> >> Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide in the App Store and in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were instrumental in providing input, feedback and other information to Marcel during this process. >> >> Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I believe Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one hundred percent. >> >> I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard and Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate the board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around the board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if one occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece you want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's accessible form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it is a very feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it fully accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps provide feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the accessibility features. >> >> Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store: >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122 >> >> Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store: >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-pro/id351303981?mt=8 >> >> Here is a link to Chess-wise FREE in the US App Store: >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-free/id367318028?mt=8 From support at mac-access.net Fri Feb 4 09:08:23 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:08:23 +0000 Subject: Everybody Using Google Mail, Please Read! Message-ID: <4D1B21BE-FEB0-465E-AA08-34566D54186E@mac-access.net> Hello everybody In the last week alone, we have had three people come to us telling us that they cannot post to the group with their gmail.com address. The reason for this problem is that Google Mail is not behaving in accordance with RFC guidelines. They are not broadcasting aliases correctly, and people using gmail.com addresses are being bounce by those servers such as ours which are configured to strongly reject spam. The reason is that in the "Sender" portion of the message headers, there is a "gmail.com" suffix to the address after the "@" symbol. But the actual message itself is sent using the suffix "googlemail.com" which is their true domain suffix. There are two fixes, one you could make yourself, and the other which we would need to arrange. The first would be for you to simply change your email settings and use googlemail.com instead of gmail.com. The second is for us to add your gmail.com address to a special list which causes our server to accept specific aliases as list members. If you are experiencing this problem, please decide which fix is preferable to you, and then take the appropriate action. If you don't want to change your gmail.com to googlemail.com for any reason, please contact us and we will make the necessary change. You may come back and say that you don't experience this problem with other lists. Maybe not; because not all server operators employ spam filtering as rigorously as we do. That behaviour will not change here, as we respect the rights of our clients not to be bombarded by spam. The same goes for our groups. Each day there are literally hundreds of spam messages which attempt to hit this group. It is our rigorous filtering which prevents that from happening. By the same token, we apologise for any inconvenience caused to genuine members. You will find us willing to assist if you contact us directly at the support address. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 4 09:12:55 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:12:55 +0000 Subject: Money and UK Online banking In-Reply-To: References: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> <66017E2C-FCBD-4B39-ADAB-62F806D86505@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <51D18335-779D-4AD5-87D3-F7529760C4F3@mac-access.net> Hello Julie No, that isn't our problem. Gordon is very well able to use their website with VoiceOver. The questions was regarding banking software, not the website. Because we run a small business, we have a number of bank accounts. We wanted to centralise them all within one application. Web banking is fine as far as it goes; but it is slow sometimes. The Halifax's website is very accessible, that isn't our problem either. As I said, it's merely one of centralisation and the ability to view things at leisure. I hope that clarifies things for you. Lynne From molliesdad87 at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 10:58:54 2011 From: molliesdad87 at gmail.com (Bob Hill) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 05:58:54 -0500 Subject: Everybody Using Google Mail, Please Read! In-Reply-To: <4D1B21BE-FEB0-465E-AA08-34566D54186E@mac-access.net> References: <4D1B21BE-FEB0-465E-AA08-34566D54186E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <86A2F047-CD59-430B-A089-DC400741D1BA@googlemail.com> Well, not a test exactly, I changed the gmail.com suffix in my mail program. So, I'll see if this goes through. If that's not what I was supposed to do, please let me know. Thanks. Bob Hill On Feb 4, 2011, at 4:08 AM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > In the last week alone, we have had three people come to us telling us that they cannot post to the group with their gmail.com address. The reason for this problem is that Google Mail is not behaving in accordance with RFC guidelines. They are not broadcasting aliases correctly, and people using gmail.com addresses are being bounce by those servers such as ours which are configured to strongly reject spam. > > The reason is that in the "Sender" portion of the message headers, there is a "gmail.com" suffix to the address after the "@" symbol. But the actual message itself is sent using the suffix "googlemail.com" which is their true domain suffix. > > There are two fixes, one you could make yourself, and the other which we would need to arrange. The first would be for you to simply change your email settings and use googlemail.com instead of gmail.com. The second is for us to add your gmail.com address to a special list which causes our server to accept specific aliases as list members. > > If you are experiencing this problem, please decide which fix is preferable to you, and then take the appropriate action. If you don't want to change your gmail.com to googlemail.com for any reason, please contact us and we will make the necessary change. > > You may come back and say that you don't experience this problem with other lists. Maybe not; because not all server operators employ spam filtering as rigorously as we do. That behaviour will not change here, as we respect the rights of our clients not to be bombarded by spam. The same goes for our groups. Each day there are literally hundreds of spam messages which attempt to hit this group. It is our rigorous filtering which prevents that from happening. > > By the same token, we apologise for any inconvenience caused to genuine members. > > You will find us willing to assist if you contact us directly at the support address. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 4 12:00:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:00:24 +0000 Subject: Everybody Using Google Mail, Please Read! In-Reply-To: <86A2F047-CD59-430B-A089-DC400741D1BA@googlemail.com> References: <4D1B21BE-FEB0-465E-AA08-34566D54186E@mac-access.net> <86A2F047-CD59-430B-A089-DC400741D1BA@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hello Bog This came through just fine. Lynne On 4 Feb 2011, at 10:58, Bob Hill wrote: > Well, not a test exactly, I changed the gmail.com suffix in my mail program. > So, I'll see if this goes through. > If that's not what I was supposed to do, please let me know. > > Thanks. > > Bob Hill > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 4:08 AM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> In the last week alone, we have had three people come to us telling us that they cannot post to the group with their gmail.com address. The reason for this problem is that Google Mail is not behaving in accordance with RFC guidelines. They are not broadcasting aliases correctly, and people using gmail.com addresses are being bounce by those servers such as ours which are configured to strongly reject spam. >> >> The reason is that in the "Sender" portion of the message headers, there is a "gmail.com" suffix to the address after the "@" symbol. But the actual message itself is sent using the suffix "googlemail.com" which is their true domain suffix. >> >> There are two fixes, one you could make yourself, and the other which we would need to arrange. The first would be for you to simply change your email settings and use googlemail.com instead of gmail.com. The second is for us to add your gmail.com address to a special list which causes our server to accept specific aliases as list members. >> >> If you are experiencing this problem, please decide which fix is preferable to you, and then take the appropriate action. If you don't want to change your gmail.com to googlemail.com for any reason, please contact us and we will make the necessary change. >> >> You may come back and say that you don't experience this problem with other lists. Maybe not; because not all server operators employ spam filtering as rigorously as we do. That behaviour will not change here, as we respect the rights of our clients not to be bombarded by spam. The same goes for our groups. Each day there are literally hundreds of spam messages which attempt to hit this group. It is our rigorous filtering which prevents that from happening. >> >> By the same token, we apologise for any inconvenience caused to genuine members. >> >> You will find us willing to assist if you contact us directly at the support address. >> >> Lynne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Fri Feb 4 12:09:08 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 12:09:08 +0000 Subject: problem solved Message-ID: <4d4bebfb.8b90d80a.0cd1.1cf9@mx.google.com> i think i may have resolved my problem with transfering music without having to search for the album or artist i want in i-tunes, select all, copy to clipboard and go to the sources and find my i-phone and paste the contents. when i-phone is selected as the source i didn't check the music radio button with space or ctrl options space and then i was asked if i wanted to sync music from my i-tunes library. hopefully i won't have the same problem now i may have found the setting to change. From billd at insightbb.com Fri Feb 4 12:09:22 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:09:22 -0500 Subject: learning about the I Phone Message-ID: Hello, I am thinking about getting the I Phone later this year. I have some questions about it. is it all right to ask them here on this list or is there another e-mail list for the I Phone? for example, can you check the time and date with speach along with the battery level? how easy is it to set up the favorites list and if a person wants to use the internet can you go from the numbers pad to the alphabet pad with relative easy? I can see the numbers on the pad so can you turn the speach on and off if you can do some things by sight but need the speach to do others. Thank you in advance. Bill Deatherage From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Fri Feb 4 12:48:28 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:48:28 +0000 Subject: learning about the I Phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92CACC69-931F-49A1-B5C1-F950BA6EA457@googlemail.com> HI Bill. I have just bought an iPhone. It is very easy to check the time and date and the battery level, plus 3G signal, Network Signal, etc. Checking the time and date can also be achieved by pressing the home button when the screen is locked and doing a single finger swipe from left to right across the screen. Along the top of the screen just above the grid of apps (it is set out in a 4 by 4 grid) is what Apple calls the status bar. This is where you will see the time, batter status, etc. As to favourites, I'm not too sure as I haven't saved any contacts as favourites. If you mean Safari favourites I think there is a button at the bottom that displays them. As to the keypad and the keyboard, the keypad can only be seen when you open the Phone application which is located at the bottom left hand corner of the screen. When you load this application, VoiceOver will say Blank Phone Number. the dial pad will be shown, just like your standard button T9 Mobile Phone Keypad. I hope this helps to answer your questions. Best regards. Lewis. On 4 Feb 2011, at 12:09, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I am thinking about getting the I Phone later this year. > I have some questions about it. is it all right to ask them here on this list or is there another e-mail list for the I Phone? > for example, > can you check the time and date with speach along with the battery level? how easy is it to set up the favorites list and if a person wants to use the internet can you go from the numbers pad to the alphabet pad with relative easy? > I can see the numbers on the pad so can you turn the speach on and off if you can do some things by sight but need the speach to do others. > > Thank you in advance. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Fri Feb 4 13:16:01 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:16:01 +0000 Subject: Free Email Addresses Available; More Options Message-ID: <53F9B1E3-CD93-4DAE-81BF-6D6B795A418C@mac-access.net> Hello everybody For the benefit of those new to this list, I thought I would post a reminder, as we have just implemented some more options anyway. For some time now, we have been offering free email addresses under the mac-access.net domain to anybody who would like one. The only proviso being that the address isn't abused and our server swamped with spam. That offer is still open to anybody. However, we are now also able to offer addresses under the following variants of the Mac-Access domain: mac-access.net (the primary domain) mac-access.org mac-access.org.uk mac-access.co.uk If anybody is interested in addresses under any of those domains hosted on our secure servers, please feel free to contact us via the support address, to discuss your options. Lynne From lomaswilliam at googlemail.com Fri Feb 4 13:19:03 2011 From: lomaswilliam at googlemail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:19:03 +0000 Subject: Free Email Addresses Available; More Options In-Reply-To: <53F9B1E3-CD93-4DAE-81BF-6D6B795A418C@mac-access.net> References: <53F9B1E3-CD93-4DAE-81BF-6D6B795A418C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1CA598A5-C9F4-4338-AC2C-22FB4D38A8D2@googlemail.com> I am subscribed to a lot of email lists though will this be a problem if i move from gmial and stick to mac-access? On 4 Feb 2011, at 13:16, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > For the benefit of those new to this list, I thought I would post a reminder, as we have just implemented some more options anyway. > > For some time now, we have been offering free email addresses under the mac-access.net domain to anybody who would like one. The only proviso being that the address isn't abused and our server swamped with spam. > > That offer is still open to anybody. However, we are now also able to offer addresses under the following variants of the Mac-Access domain: > mac-access.net (the primary domain) > mac-access.org > mac-access.org.uk > mac-access.co.uk > > If anybody is interested in addresses under any of those domains hosted on our secure servers, please feel free to contact us via the support address, to discuss your options. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Fri Feb 4 13:34:45 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:34:45 +0000 Subject: Money and UK Online banking In-Reply-To: <51D18335-779D-4AD5-87D3-F7529760C4F3@mac-access.net> References: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> <66017E2C-FCBD-4B39-ADAB-62F806D86505@computing.dcu.ie> <51D18335-779D-4AD5-87D3-F7529760C4F3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: ooh yes lynne well i wasn't sure mind i did go on there yesterday and found that they have the new site up and running now and thank goodness its still ok to use phew thats such a relief isn't it smiley oh well sorry was not much help then hope you get it sorted take care jules On 4 Feb 2011, at 09:12, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Julie > > No, that isn't our problem. Gordon is very well able to use their website with VoiceOver. > > The questions was regarding banking software, not the website. Because we run a small business, we have a number of bank accounts. We wanted to centralise them all within one application. > > Web banking is fine as far as it goes; but it is slow sometimes. The Halifax's website is very accessible, that isn't our problem either. As I said, it's merely one of centralisation and the ability to view things at leisure. > > I hope that clarifies things for you. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Fri Feb 4 13:39:55 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:39:55 +0000 Subject: learning about the I Phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi there bill yes the iphone is very good i have just had mine and i love it i don't have useable site so need the voice over on all the time, but you could set it so you press the home button 3 times and voice is disabled and enabled etc its fantastic my sister said the keypad is large numbers and i think once you have had time to play you will love it too from a very happy iphone user jules On 4 Feb 2011, at 12:09, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I am thinking about getting the I Phone later this year. > I have some questions about it. is it all right to ask them here on this list or is there another e-mail list for the I Phone? > for example, > can you check the time and date with speach along with the battery level? how easy is it to set up the favorites list and if a person wants to use the internet can you go from the numbers pad to the alphabet pad with relative easy? > I can see the numbers on the pad so can you turn the speach on and off if you can do some things by sight but need the speach to do others. > > Thank you in advance. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ian228 at hotmail.co.uk Fri Feb 4 13:51:23 2011 From: ian228 at hotmail.co.uk (Ian Robinson) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:51:23 -0000 Subject: New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: <99497296-D6B6-431D-9522-BE18544A67D5@mac-access.net> References: <99497296-D6B6-431D-9522-BE18544A67D5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi All, Thanks for the welcome message and to Gordon Keen for telling me about the list and web site. I don?t have a Mac at the moment, but am seriously thinking about getting one soon. I recently bought an IPod Touch and am slowly getting used to it. Looking forward to learning from other list members. Regards. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Gordon & Lynne Smith Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:32 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: New Member Welcome Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Ian Robinson to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 4 13:54:46 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:54:46 +0000 Subject: Money and UK Online banking In-Reply-To: References: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> <66017E2C-FCBD-4B39-ADAB-62F806D86505@computing.dcu.ie> <51D18335-779D-4AD5-87D3-F7529760C4F3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <27154030-831D-488A-8D73-97DA642B61BE@mac-access.net> Hello Julie Yes; I've seen demos of the new site and yes it came on stream on 3 February. Don't worry about not being of help; you tried, and that's the important thing. Lynne On 4 Feb 2011, at 13:34, Julie Vaughan wrote: > ooh yes lynne well i wasn't sure mind i did go on there yesterday and found that they have the new site up and running now and thank goodness its still ok to use phew thats such a relief isn't it smiley > > oh well sorry was not much help then > > hope you get it sorted From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Fri Feb 4 14:02:47 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:02:47 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: References: <99497296-D6B6-431D-9522-BE18544A67D5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: hi ian yes you are right this is a great list full with help and support hope you are enjoying your ipod i got an ipod first and as i loved that so much i have now got an iphone, i also have an imac and yes you probe could say im apple mad smiley enjoy the list jules On 4 Feb 2011, at 13:51, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi All, > > Thanks for the welcome message and to Gordon Keen for telling me about the list and web site. > > I don?t have a Mac at the moment, but am seriously thinking about getting one soon. I recently bought an IPod Touch and am slowly getting used to it. > > Looking forward to learning from other list members. > > Regards. > > Ian > > > -----Original Message----- From: Gordon & Lynne Smith > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:32 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: New Member Welcome > > Hello everybody > > Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. > > It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Ian Robinson to our number. > > We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. > > In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. > > We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. > > Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. > > If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. > > Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. > > Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. > > If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: > http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Fri Feb 4 14:04:03 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:04:03 +0000 Subject: Money and UK Online banking In-Reply-To: <27154030-831D-488A-8D73-97DA642B61BE@mac-access.net> References: <7E90224E-827C-4263-8E5D-7E138CDFD2AF@mac-access.net> <66017E2C-FCBD-4B39-ADAB-62F806D86505@computing.dcu.ie> <51D18335-779D-4AD5-87D3-F7529760C4F3@mac-access.net> <27154030-831D-488A-8D73-97DA642B61BE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7FE0180A-A6F5-4ADE-88A0-2DAC0233BBE5@virginmedia.com> ok lynne thats great i will always help if i can smiley jules On 4 Feb 2011, at 13:54, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Julie > Yes; I've seen demos of the new site and yes it came on stream on 3 February. > > Don't worry about not being of help; you tried, and that's the important thing. > > Lynne > > On 4 Feb 2011, at 13:34, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> ooh yes lynne well i wasn't sure mind i did go on there yesterday and found that they have the new site up and running now and thank goodness its still ok to use phew thats such a relief isn't it smiley >> >> oh well sorry was not much help then >> >> hope you get it sorted > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Feb 4 14:04:19 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:04:19 +0000 Subject: My itunes library is a mess.. Message-ID: Hi all, I've threatened to post about this for an eternity, so here goes. I have had several machines over the years and I have music libraries on all of them. There is overlap between all of the machines, in that the same stuff appears on many of them. So what I want to do is consolidate all the various libraries into one master library, remove all duplicates and then tag everything correctly. Yes I know this will take ages, but it's my own fault for letting it get into the state it's in. Does anyone know of any tools that might help me in this task? I'm thinking of designating one music location as the "master" and trying to compare all the other ones against it. If an album/track appears in the master and in one of the others, I'll simply delete from the subordinate location. If not, I'll copy across. As I said, I could do this manually of course, but why do things yourself if you can have a computer do them for you? If need be I'll write a small application to do this, but if something else exists that will give me a shortcut I'd like to hear of it. Thanks as always, D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Fri Feb 4 14:14:00 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:14:00 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: References: <99497296-D6B6-431D-9522-BE18544A67D5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2D8510AF-F870-4060-8875-15C65469860B@googlemail.com> HI Ian! I am Lewis Crack, 21 years old and from the UK! I have an Apple 13inch MacBook with Snow Leopard and I love it! I also have a 4th Generation 64GB iPod Touch, and a 16GB 3GS iPhone. You will find that Apple is a lot easier than Windows once you get used to its interface. Enjoy the list and feel free to post any questions. As Lynne would say, don't think yourself as stupid, we all need to start somewhere. Very best regards. Lewis Crack. On 4 Feb 2011, at 14:02, Julie Vaughan wrote: > hi ian > > yes you are right this is a great list full with help and support > > hope you are enjoying your ipod i got an ipod first and as i loved that so much i have now got an iphone, i also have an imac and yes you probe could say im apple mad smiley > > enjoy the list > > jules > On 4 Feb 2011, at 13:51, Ian Robinson wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Thanks for the welcome message and to Gordon Keen for telling me about the list and web site. >> >> I don?t have a Mac at the moment, but am seriously thinking about getting one soon. I recently bought an IPod Touch and am slowly getting used to it. >> >> Looking forward to learning from other list members. >> >> Regards. >> >> Ian >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Gordon & Lynne Smith >> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:32 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: New Member Welcome >> >> Hello everybody >> >> Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. >> >> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Ian Robinson to our number. >> >> We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. >> >> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. >> >> We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. >> >> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. >> >> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. >> >> Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. >> >> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. >> >> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: >> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha >> >> Lynne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Fri Feb 4 14:23:07 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 09:23:07 -0500 Subject: learning about the I Phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0LG300BTXJYRC040@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Bill! If you're a braille reader, there's a new book out from National Braille Press called "Getting Started with the iPhone," by Anna Dresner and Dean Martineau. It's in three volumes, and sells for $18. I've read through it, and found it quite useful. HTH. Matthew Chao At 07:09 AM 2/4/2011, you wrote: >Hello, >I am thinking about getting the I Phone later this year. >I have some questions about it. is it all right to ask them here on >this list or is there another e-mail list for the I Phone? >for example, >can you check the time and date with speach along with the battery >level? how easy is it to set up the favorites list and if a person >wants to use the internet can you go from the numbers pad to the >alphabet pad with relative easy? >I can see the numbers on the pad so can you turn the speach on and >off if you can do some things by sight but need the speach to do others. > >Thank you in advance. >Bill Deatherage >_______________________________________________ > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >signature database 5845 (20110204) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Feb 4 14:23:27 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:23:27 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: <2D8510AF-F870-4060-8875-15C65469860B@googlemail.com> References: <99497296-D6B6-431D-9522-BE18544A67D5@mac-access.net> <2D8510AF-F870-4060-8875-15C65469860B@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi ian, nice to meat you, i am Ian McNamara a pritty new mac user had it for five months. also i have an ipod touch 64 gb and my computer is an Imac. i am sure when you take the plunge and get in to the mac you will love it a lot. there is a learning curve but it looks harder than it really is. take care and we look forward to answering your questions and recieving your input on list. Ian McNamara From weavermicha at googlemail.com Fri Feb 4 14:33:26 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 14:33:26 +0000 Subject: adding applications on the mac Message-ID: <4d4c0dcc.1b08e30a.6833.29e8@mx.google.com> how do i go about adding applications to the task list or whatever it is called on the mac? my friend who got me started with the mac added skype for me and i have just recently downloaded the free daisy player and again this isn't an executable installer. at the moment i am having to go to my downloads folder on the mac to run the daisy app. can it be done by going to the download folder, doing a ctrl c, or copy from the menu, going to the applications folder and doing a ctrl v, command v or paste from the menus to get an application to recognise? it does appear to me that a lot of apps you have to do more work to configure them yourself unlike say under windows or linux where you might have an executable for an installer or like in ubuntu the program is compressed into a package which gets extracted after entering on it or one command. From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Feb 4 14:34:50 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:34:50 +0000 Subject: learning about the I Phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <327BD6B6-A5E9-49B0-9332-9C3AD0AA04AE@googlemail.com> Hello bill, i have an Ipod touch which is simolar to the Iphone but with out the phone smiley. i love it so much when i can upgrade my mobile i am getting an Iphone as well, can't wait to have it. Ian McNamara From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Fri Feb 4 14:35:54 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:35:54 +0000 Subject: adding applications on the mac In-Reply-To: <4d4c0dcc.1b08e30a.6833.29e8@mx.google.com> References: <4d4c0dcc.1b08e30a.6833.29e8@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <02D597D9-98F6-4055-9AB7-DCA6D3FFC006@googlemail.com> HI Michael. I did the same thing. However, when you download an application, a new finder window will appear. It will say image browser, list. Go to the window and scroll around until you hear the application e.g Skype, selected application. Press Command C to copy, then press command W to close the window. After doing this, make sure you are still in the Finder Window. Press Command Shift A and it will take you to your applications folder. Press Command V to paste. There you go, you should have that application in the applications folder. If you wish to add any applications to the dock for easier access, just press command shift T. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 4 Feb 2011, at 14:33, michael weaver wrote: > how do i go about adding applications to the task list or whatever it is called on the mac? > my friend who got me started with the mac added skype for me and i have just recently downloaded the free daisy player and again this isn't an executable installer. > at the moment i am having to go to my downloads folder on the mac to run the daisy app. > can it be done by going to the download folder, doing a ctrl c, or copy from the menu, going to the applications folder and doing a ctrl v, command v or paste from the menus to get an application to recognise? > it does appear to me that a lot of apps you have to do more work to configure them yourself unlike say under windows or linux where you might have an executable for an installer or like in ubuntu the program is compressed into a package which gets extracted after entering on it or one command. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Fri Feb 4 15:20:43 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (gunn at tznet.com) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:20:43 -0500 Subject: adding applications on the mac Message-ID: <380-22011254152043625@M2W142.mail2web.com> In eddition to what Lewis wrote some .dmg files when opening and you want to install the app, instead of in this case Skype.app you might see an installer packatge which to windows is kind of like setup. So instead of having to copy the .app to the Applications folder the installer package will do this for you. Take care, John Michael: Original Message: ----------------- From: michael weaver weavermicha at googlemail.com Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 14:33:26 +0000 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: adding applications on the mac how do i go about adding applications to the task list or whatever it is called on the mac? my friend who got me started with the mac added skype for me and i have just recently downloaded the free daisy player and again this isn't an executable installer. at the moment i am having to go to my downloads folder on the mac to run the daisy app. can it be done by going to the download folder, doing a ctrl c, or copy from the menu, going to the applications folder and doing a ctrl v, command v or paste from the menus to get an application to recognise? it does appear to me that a lot of apps you have to do more work to configure them yourself unlike say under windows or linux where you might have an executable for an installer or like in ubuntu the program is compressed into a package which gets extracted after entering on it or one command. _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 16:15:49 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:15:49 -0500 Subject: Everybody Using Google Mail, Please Read! In-Reply-To: <86A2F047-CD59-430B-A089-DC400741D1BA@googlemail.com> References: <4D1B21BE-FEB0-465E-AA08-34566D54186E@mac-access.net> <86A2F047-CD59-430B-A089-DC400741D1BA@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Exactly how do you change from Gmail to Googlemail? Courtney On Feb 4, 2011, at 5:58 AM, Bob Hill wrote: > Well, not a test exactly, I changed the gmail.com suffix in my mail program. > So, I'll see if this goes through. > If that's not what I was supposed to do, please let me know. > > Thanks. > > Bob Hill > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 4:08 AM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> In the last week alone, we have had three people come to us telling us that they cannot post to the group with their gmail.com address. The reason for this problem is that Google Mail is not behaving in accordance with RFC guidelines. They are not broadcasting aliases correctly, and people using gmail.com addresses are being bounce by those servers such as ours which are configured to strongly reject spam. >> >> The reason is that in the "Sender" portion of the message headers, there is a "gmail.com" suffix to the address after the "@" symbol. But the actual message itself is sent using the suffix "googlemail.com" which is their true domain suffix. >> >> There are two fixes, one you could make yourself, and the other which we would need to arrange. The first would be for you to simply change your email settings and use googlemail.com instead of gmail.com. The second is for us to add your gmail.com address to a special list which causes our server to accept specific aliases as list members. >> >> If you are experiencing this problem, please decide which fix is preferable to you, and then take the appropriate action. If you don't want to change your gmail.com to googlemail.com for any reason, please contact us and we will make the necessary change. >> >> You may come back and say that you don't experience this problem with other lists. Maybe not; because not all server operators employ spam filtering as rigorously as we do. That behaviour will not change here, as we respect the rights of our clients not to be bombarded by spam. The same goes for our groups. Each day there are literally hundreds of spam messages which attempt to hit this group. It is our rigorous filtering which prevents that from happening. >> >> By the same token, we apologise for any inconvenience caused to genuine members. >> >> You will find us willing to assist if you contact us directly at the support address. >> >> Lynne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 4 16:32:45 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:32:45 +0000 Subject: Everybody Using Google Mail, Please Read! In-Reply-To: References: <4D1B21BE-FEB0-465E-AA08-34566D54186E@mac-access.net> <86A2F047-CD59-430B-A089-DC400741D1BA@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hello Courtney Since your messages are getting through, there is no need for you personally to do anything. We now believe that this is actually something to do with a website setting that some people have configured, based on the responses we've had off list today. Unfortunately I cannot advise you further as we don't use Google mail. Lynne On 4 Feb 2011, at 16:15, Courtney Curran wrote: > Exactly how do you change from Gmail to Googlemail? From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 21:06:55 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:06:55 -0800 Subject: Everybody Using Google Mail, Please Read! In-Reply-To: <4D1B21BE-FEB0-465E-AA08-34566D54186E@mac-access.net> References: <4D1B21BE-FEB0-465E-AA08-34566D54186E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Huh? I'm not having any issues with this or other lists. Maybe I"m one of the lucky ones. lol! Take care and thanks for the heads up. On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:08 AM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > In the last week alone, we have had three people come to us telling us that they cannot post to the group with their gmail.com address. The reason for this problem is that Google Mail is not behaving in accordance with RFC guidelines. They are not broadcasting aliases correctly, and people using gmail.com addresses are being bounce by those servers such as ours which are configured to strongly reject spam. > > The reason is that in the "Sender" portion of the message headers, there is a "gmail.com" suffix to the address after the "@" symbol. But the actual message itself is sent using the suffix "googlemail.com" which is their true domain suffix. > > There are two fixes, one you could make yourself, and the other which we would need to arrange. The first would be for you to simply change your email settings and use googlemail.com instead of gmail.com. The second is for us to add your gmail.com address to a special list which causes our server to accept specific aliases as list members. > > If you are experiencing this problem, please decide which fix is preferable to you, and then take the appropriate action. If you don't want to change your gmail.com to googlemail.com for any reason, please contact us and we will make the necessary change. > > You may come back and say that you don't experience this problem with other lists. Maybe not; because not all server operators employ spam filtering as rigorously as we do. That behaviour will not change here, as we respect the rights of our clients not to be bombarded by spam. The same goes for our groups. Each day there are literally hundreds of spam messages which attempt to hit this group. It is our rigorous filtering which prevents that from happening. > > By the same token, we apologise for any inconvenience caused to genuine members. > > You will find us willing to assist if you contact us directly at the support address. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Feb 4 21:52:53 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:52:53 -0400 Subject: accessible radio app for a MacBook pro. Message-ID: Hi Folks: I am looking for an accessible full featured radio app for the Mac. Any help would be appreciated all over the place. Thanks. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Feb 4 23:10:01 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:10:01 -0400 Subject: problems with the MAC app store. Message-ID: <2BD3455D33A84D39A58797F0296DC569@MainComputer> Hi Gang: Anyone having problems logging in to the MAC app store? Everytime I enter my password, I am asked if I forgot my password. I even opted to renew my password and it still doesn't work. Am I missing something? Thanks all over the place gang. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 5 00:25:07 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:25:07 -0800 Subject: accessible radio app for a MacBook pro. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26648074-3C95-4D49-AAC9-A3C01F8D2532@gmail.com> I can't recomend anything on that front but until someone does maybe try the itunes app. I have not used the aradio portion but there are a lot of stations there. S On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I am looking for an accessible full featured radio app for the Mac. Any help would be appreciated all over the place. > > Thanks. > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 5 00:51:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:51:06 -0800 Subject: GParted accessible Message-ID: Hello. Is GParted accessible? here is a link at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ for more info. I don't know anything about this kind of stuff so any help please. S From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Feb 5 00:54:12 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 00:54:12 +0000 Subject: GParted accessible In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6745292F-A544-4C36-B0BE-FDE13A398EC0@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah, Well as you may know, it can certainly be run on Mac, but I don't have time right ow to take this any further. If you've got a spare USB thumb drive sitting around, maybe you could try it out? TC :) James On 5 Feb 2011, at 00:51, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. Is GParted accessible? here is a link at > http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ > for more info. I don't know anything about this kind of stuff so any help please. > > S > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 5 02:14:51 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:14:51 -0800 Subject: GParted accessible In-Reply-To: <6745292F-A544-4C36-B0BE-FDE13A398EC0@mac-access.net> References: <6745292F-A544-4C36-B0BE-FDE13A398EC0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7D754046-866D-4484-AE0F-11DF63DB16E8@gmail.com> I might but I have stuff on it. lol! someoen told me I might need a vm to run it. I do have an iso of the thing but not really sure what to do from here. lol! On Feb 4, 2011, at 4:54 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Well as you may know, it can certainly be run on Mac, but I don't have time right ow to take this any further. If you've got a spare USB thumb drive sitting around, maybe you could try it out? > > TC :) > > James > On 5 Feb 2011, at 00:51, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello. Is GParted accessible? here is a link at >> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ >> for more info. I don't know anything about this kind of stuff so any help please. >> >> S >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 5 07:08:31 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 01:08:31 -0600 Subject: A question about DVD Players for the Mac and Skype 5.0. In-Reply-To: <0C5FE27D-3059-4A08-A24A-ED6F145E4F31@googlemail.com> References: <0C5FE27D-3059-4A08-A24A-ED6F145E4F31@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <37DBFF18-06FE-4128-B36A-930E0B2A4B19@softcon.com> On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > 1. My friends and I want to be able to play DVD's on our macs. Do > you know where we can get an accessible DVD Player for the Mac, as > iDVD and DVD Player don't seem to be acessible. The apple provided dvd player works pretty good, but you need touse menus to do most things, especially when it comes to selecting alternat sound tracks and the like. If you download the Softcon dvd player located on the Softcon mac pages at: http://www.softcon.com/mac/ You'll find it has shortcut keys for everything you might want to do, including moving between angle views (if present) language selection (including dvs tracks) and all buttons/sliders are labeled, and you will have no problems navigating the controls. In fact, the controls are in a separate window, so you can hide that window, and not have them show up on the screen at all so sighted folks won't complain you're blocking part of the viewing area. Grab a copy, (version 1.34 I think is the latest, and it's a universal binary, so will work on ppc or intel macs (yes, I still support ppc macs) and give it a try. If you think something doesn't work as it should, drop a line, and I'll see what can be done about it. Hope this helps. Oh, and in case you're wondering, it's free, as are all of the softcon programs on the mac pages. From gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net Sat Feb 5 09:27:33 2011 From: gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 09:27:33 +0000 Subject: iPad and WiFi Networks Message-ID: <7D72FCC7-84BD-4F8F-A8DF-5C1D206E61E2@mac-access.net> Hello everybody; particularly those who own an iPad Is there any way to make the iPad only use one specific WiFi network, so that it doesn't prompt for another when that one goes out of range? We often do as we have now, take our iPad mobile. It keeps prompting us to select a network and it sees the networks of nearby houses and shops. Lynne _______________________________________ Gordon & Lynne Smith; gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 Fax: +44--1642-365-123 We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Feb 5 10:10:05 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:10:05 +0000 Subject: Hiding a window Message-ID: <7D9B6EFD-9B6F-47F5-AC5D-ED5FB68000AB@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, Is there a way to hide an active iMac application such that its window does not display when you use Command+Tab to cycle round the windows? I want to hide Quickeys in this way to minimise confusion. I tried Command+H to hide Quickeys but it was still there when I did Command+Tab. I also tried minimising Quickeys but again it was still there with COmmand+Tab. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From ian228 at hotmail.co.uk Sat Feb 5 10:10:27 2011 From: ian228 at hotmail.co.uk (Ian Robinson) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:10:27 -0000 Subject: iPad and WiFi Networks In-Reply-To: <7D72FCC7-84BD-4F8F-A8DF-5C1D206E61E2@mac-access.net> References: <7D72FCC7-84BD-4F8F-A8DF-5C1D206E61E2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, On the IPod Touch there is a setting called "Airplane Mode" which disables the wireless connection. Hopefully, the same feature will be on the IPad. go to Settings and it should be the first button. Details about Airplane Mode can be found at: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1355 Cheers. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Gordon & Lynne Smith Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:27 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: iPad and WiFi Networks Hello everybody; particularly those who own an iPad Is there any way to make the iPad only use one specific WiFi network, so that it doesn't prompt for another when that one goes out of range? We often do as we have now, take our iPad mobile. It keeps prompting us to select a network and it sees the networks of nearby houses and shops. Lynne _______________________________________ Gordon & Lynne Smith; gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 Fax: +44--1642-365-123 We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Feb 5 10:14:00 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:14:00 +0000 Subject: Fidning an application on the APP store Message-ID: Hello, If I know the name of a MAC OS application is there a way to quickly find it on the APP store? the search function works fine on the iPhone / iPad APP store but it does not work for me on the MAC OS APP store. I tried to find an APP which I knew was there in the APP store but had no success. I must be missing something! Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net Sat Feb 5 10:41:01 2011 From: gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:41:01 +0000 Subject: iPad and WiFi Networks In-Reply-To: References: <7D72FCC7-84BD-4F8F-A8DF-5C1D206E61E2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3C063FF1-FA6C-4B6A-A90A-3C1B2F9C90AB@mac-access.net> Hello Ian On 5 Feb 2011, at 10:10, "Ian Robinson" wrote: > > On the IPod Touch there is a setting called "Airplane Mode" which disables the wireless connection. Hopefully, the same feature will be on the IPad. > go to Settings and it should be the first button. > Not quite what I want. I want it to re-connect to our network when we get back home without the need to turn that on. Lynne _______________________________________ Gordon & Lynne Smith; gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 Fax: +44--1642-365-123 We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sat Feb 5 11:30:19 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 11:30:19 +0000 Subject: Fidning an application on the APP store In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Paul! I could be mistaken but I think you've been asking about this for a while! If I'm wrong [sorry] But I also think you have not mentioned which app your looking for! So if you could name the app then someone could see if they have the same trouble finding it! And if they can find it straight away then you might have a different problem! hth Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 5 Feb 2011, at 10:14, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > If I know the name of a MAC OS application is there a way to quickly find it on the APP store? the search function works fine on the iPhone / iPad APP store but it does not work for me on the MAC OS APP store. I tried to find an APP which I knew was there in the APP store but had no success. I must be missing something! > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From damian.mcmorrow at me.com Sat Feb 5 12:58:29 2011 From: damian.mcmorrow at me.com (Damian McMorrow) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 22:58:29 +1000 Subject: iPad and WiFi Networks In-Reply-To: <7D72FCC7-84BD-4F8F-A8DF-5C1D206E61E2@mac-access.net> References: <7D72FCC7-84BD-4F8F-A8DF-5C1D206E61E2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6D53787E-6CC9-4E04-9419-E809F4099F32@me.com> Hi Lyn, Under Settings and Wifi, there should be an option called "Ask to join networks". If you turn that off, it will still connect to known networks, but if it doesn't find any that it has connected to before, it won't prompt you to connect to anything else. Hope that helps. Damian. On 05/02/2011, at 7:27 PM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody; particularly those who own an iPad > > Is there any way to make the iPad only use one specific WiFi network, so that it doesn't prompt for another when that one goes out of range? > > We often do as we have now, take our iPad mobile. It keeps prompting us to select a network and it sees the networks of nearby houses and shops. > > Lynne > > > > _______________________________________ > > Gordon & Lynne Smith; > gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net > > VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET > MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 > Fax: +44--1642-365-123 > > We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From nfitzrick at eircom.net Sat Feb 5 14:04:02 2011 From: nfitzrick at eircom.net (Niall Fitzpatrick) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:04:02 -0000 Subject: setting up iphone 4 to receive e-mails Message-ID: <4A22D9F5AB9C4911B6441E3FDB8481EB@fitz01> Hi all, Just wondering if anyone on the list can point me in the right direction. I recently bought an iphone 4 and I am trying to set it up to send and receive e-mails. I can receive e-mails but cannot send e-mails. My network provider for my phone is vodafone. Any help greatly accepted. Niall From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Feb 5 15:13:34 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 11:13:34 -0400 Subject: GarageBand Tutorial. Message-ID: <9F32E485B3AA48B7A947EED9908E83BD@MainComputer> Hi Folks: Does anyone know if there is an in depth GarageBand tutorial with VoiceOver out there? Thanks all over the place gang. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Feb 5 15:22:47 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:22:47 +0000 Subject: A question about DVD Players for the Mac and Skype 5.0. In-Reply-To: <37DBFF18-06FE-4128-B36A-930E0B2A4B19@softcon.com> References: <0C5FE27D-3059-4A08-A24A-ED6F145E4F31@googlemail.com> <37DBFF18-06FE-4128-B36A-930E0B2A4B19@softcon.com> Message-ID: HI Travis. Thanks a lot for the info. Will give this program a try. Lewis. On 5 Feb 2011, at 07:08, Travis Siegel wrote: > > On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> 1. My friends and I want to be able to play DVD's on our macs. Do you know where we can get an accessible DVD Player for the Mac, as iDVD and DVD Player don't seem to be acessible. > > The apple provided dvd player works pretty good, but you need touse menus to do most things, especially when it comes to selecting alternat sound tracks and the like. > If you download the Softcon dvd player located on the Softcon mac pages at: > http://www.softcon.com/mac/ > You'll find it has shortcut keys for everything you might want to do, including moving between angle views (if present) language selection (including dvs tracks) and all buttons/sliders are labeled, and you will have no problems navigating the controls. In fact, the controls are in a separate window, so you can hide that window, and not have them show up on the screen at all so sighted folks won't complain you're blocking part of the viewing area. > Grab a copy, (version 1.34 I think is the latest, and it's a universal binary, so will work on ppc or intel macs (yes, I still support ppc macs) and give it a try. If you think something doesn't work as it should, drop a line, and I'll see what can be done about it. > Hope this helps. > Oh, and in case you're wondering, it's free, as are all of the softcon programs on the mac pages. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Feb 5 15:27:44 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:27:44 +0000 Subject: iPad and WiFi Networks In-Reply-To: <3C063FF1-FA6C-4B6A-A90A-3C1B2F9C90AB@mac-access.net> References: <7D72FCC7-84BD-4F8F-A8DF-5C1D206E61E2@mac-access.net> <3C063FF1-FA6C-4B6A-A90A-3C1B2F9C90AB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <257B28CD-6078-4912-B3C8-A5818176E483@googlemail.com> HI Lynne. The WiFi on your iPad should automatically remember your network when you come within range of your house. the WiFi on my iPone and iPod Touch automatically connect when they are in range of the router. Haven't tested it when turning on Airplane Mode. Best regards. Lewis. On 5 Feb 2011, at 10:41, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello Ian > > On 5 Feb 2011, at 10:10, "Ian Robinson" wrote: >> >> On the IPod Touch there is a setting called "Airplane Mode" which disables the wireless connection. Hopefully, the same feature will be on the IPad. >> go to Settings and it should be the first button. >> > Not quite what I want. I want it to re-connect to our network when we get back home without the need to turn that on. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________ > > Gordon & Lynne Smith; > gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net > > VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET > MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 > Fax: +44--1642-365-123 > > We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 5 16:12:20 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:12:20 -0600 Subject: Hiding a window In-Reply-To: <7D9B6EFD-9B6F-47F5-AC5D-ED5FB68000AB@hopewell.org.uk> References: <7D9B6EFD-9B6F-47F5-AC5D-ED5FB68000AB@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <248A79E4-A14C-40D2-9D70-806BE5A11993@softcon.com> When you hide an application, it simply removes it from screen realestate, so that sighted folks don't see it on the active window anymore. The command-tab will always toggle through all your active programs, whether they're vissible or not. Personally, I'd not want programs to be able to remove themselves from the command-tab option, because then it would be much harder to get to them, and Apple is all about usability. If you hold down the command key while pressing tab, you can just tab past any programs you don't want to switch to at the moment, it's not hard to teach yourself not to let go of the command key until you're in the program you wanted. From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Sat Feb 5 16:15:27 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:15:27 +0000 Subject: batteries in my keyboard Message-ID: <8512997E-2D2E-4143-91BE-B86EF4BC10CE@mac-access.org.uk> Hi has anyone else noted the batteries in the wireless keyboard drain after 2 weeks? Mine have just gone I only got the IMac 2 weeks ago yesterday. From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Sat Feb 5 16:16:48 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:16:48 +0000 Subject: iPad and WiFi Networks In-Reply-To: <257B28CD-6078-4912-B3C8-A5818176E483@googlemail.com> References: <7D72FCC7-84BD-4F8F-A8DF-5C1D206E61E2@mac-access.net> <3C063FF1-FA6C-4B6A-A90A-3C1B2F9C90AB@mac-access.net> <257B28CD-6078-4912-B3C8-A5818176E483@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Yes it does mine does, for example. Even a password encrypted one. It will automatically rejoin it when it sees it but of course, others are detected in range if wifi is on that's its purpose after all smile On 5 Feb 2011, at 15:27, Lewis Crack wrote: > HI Lynne. > > The WiFi on your iPad should automatically remember your network when you come within range of your house. the WiFi on my iPone and iPod Touch automatically connect when they are in range of the router. > Haven't tested it when turning on Airplane Mode. > Best regards. > Lewis. > On 5 Feb 2011, at 10:41, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > >> Hello Ian >> >> On 5 Feb 2011, at 10:10, "Ian Robinson" wrote: >>> >>> On the IPod Touch there is a setting called "Airplane Mode" which disables the wireless connection. Hopefully, the same feature will be on the IPad. >>> go to Settings and it should be the first button. >>> >> Not quite what I want. I want it to re-connect to our network when we get back home without the need to turn that on. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> Gordon & Lynne Smith; >> gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net >> >> VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET >> MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 >> Fax: +44--1642-365-123 >> >> We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 5 16:17:18 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:17:18 -0600 Subject: accessible radio app for a MacBook pro. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D51457C-5B0A-4FD4-8292-0B408CA244BE@softcon.com> Depending on your definition of fully featured, the aol radio player has full accessibility, even to the point of labeling your selections that you've selected with station 1, (name of station) station2 (name of station). Unfortunately, I'm not sure where I got it from, but I'm sure a quick search of google will turn it up, and if you can't locate it, drop a line, and I'll ship you the copy I have. From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 5 16:19:37 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:19:37 -0600 Subject: GParted accessible In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26DA10CF-02C4-43FE-B0A2-EE08F81115EA@softcon.com> Last time I checked, (admittedly several years ago) gpart did not work with vo, because it reboots into it's own version of linux, and does not have any speech output capabilities at the time it runs. There's no reason you can't use the bootcamp utility to resize your tootcamp partition though, if that's what you're after, to my recollection, that utility is fully accessible. From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 5 16:26:18 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:26:18 -0600 Subject: My itunes library is a mess.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually, since the itunes files are just xml files, reading the info is easy enough, but your idea of having one master location is a good one, this is the method we use here, and it works well. We have several computers, and each one uses the central location, and has access to all the itunes data that way. The only issue we have with this method, is that sometimes I have to go manually cange ownership/ permissions, because when one person adds stuff, another user can't always read those files. Makes for a mess, but if you have only a single user on your machines (or two, and always use the non-admin user to add files) this shouldn't become a problem. From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sat Feb 5 16:43:17 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:43:17 +0000 Subject: A question about DVD Players for the Mac and Skype 5.0. In-Reply-To: References: <0C5FE27D-3059-4A08-A24A-ED6F145E4F31@googlemail.com> <37DBFF18-06FE-4128-B36A-930E0B2A4B19@softcon.com> Message-ID: <4F36D3B2-97EF-4AA0-ABB8-39561A5E19EC@googlemail.com> Hi thanks for this will look in to this my self. Ian McNamara From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sat Feb 5 17:06:17 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:06:17 +0000 Subject: My itunes library is a mess.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DCB3887-2BEA-4CF2-B209-75E9C7108F69@computing.dcu.ie> HI Travis, Already started to work on this. I'm trying to put a spec together first. You see I'm a tad anal about the quality of my music, so one feature (among many) I want to add to this is the ability to specify criteria which facilitates keeping of files depending on, for example, higher bitrate. I hadn't thought of the user issue. I'l have to think about that one. On 5 Feb 2011, at 16:26, Travis Siegel wrote: > Actually, since the itunes files are just xml files, reading the info is easy enough, but your idea of having one master location is a good one, this is the method we use here, and it works well. We have several computers, and each one uses the central location, and has access to all the itunes data that way. The only issue we have with this method, is that sometimes I have to go manually cange ownership/permissions, because when one person adds stuff, another user can't always read those files. Makes for a mess, but if you have only a single user on your machines (or two, and always use the non-admin user to add files) this shouldn't become a problem. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Feb 5 18:51:40 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 18:51:40 +0000 Subject: Is Darwin Ports installed on Mac OS X by default? Message-ID: <928404FB-136C-4F6A-8E21-FACD4FBDC1A3@mac-access.net> Hello everyone, I am trying to download a local copy of a website in its entirety. I have discovered that the "wget" command can do this via Terminal, but it does not appear to be installed. It is however on other UNIX systems by default. Apparently, there is a version for Mac OS X, but before installing it, I need to know if Darwin ports is installed by default please and how I can determine this. Thank you for any assistance. Take care :) James From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 5 19:04:36 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 11:04:36 -0800 Subject: Is Darwin Ports installed on Mac OS X by default? In-Reply-To: <928404FB-136C-4F6A-8E21-FACD4FBDC1A3@mac-access.net> References: <928404FB-136C-4F6A-8E21-FACD4FBDC1A3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <251CE05C-B1D1-4027-9153-17280916C9DA@gmail.com> I believe it is. At least that's what a mac person who uses nothing but the terminal told me. S On Feb 5, 2011, at 10:51 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am trying to download a local copy of a website in its entirety. I have discovered that the "wget" command can do this via Terminal, but it does not appear to be installed. It is however on other UNIX systems by default. Apparently, there is a version for Mac OS X, but before installing it, I need to know if Darwin ports is installed by default please and how I can determine this. > > Thank you for any assistance. > > Take care :) > > James > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 5 19:05:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 11:05:19 -0800 Subject: GParted accessible In-Reply-To: <26DA10CF-02C4-43FE-B0A2-EE08F81115EA@softcon.com> References: <26DA10CF-02C4-43FE-B0A2-EE08F81115EA@softcon.com> Message-ID: <33410862-8907-4F41-8EB2-8B5685280F47@gmail.com> No you can't. the only thing that is there is restore or create,. that's it.On Feb 5, 2011, at 8:19 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Last time I checked, (admittedly several years ago) gpart did not work with vo, because it reboots into it's own version of linux, and does not have any speech output capabilities at the time it runs. > There's no reason you can't use the bootcamp utility to resize your tootcamp partition though, if that's what you're after, to my recollection, that utility is fully accessible. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Feb 5 20:27:20 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:27:20 -1000 Subject: wget installer (without Darwin Ports) In-Reply-To: <928404FB-136C-4F6A-8E21-FACD4FBDC1A3@mac-access.net> References: <928404FB-136C-4F6A-8E21-FACD4FBDC1A3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <09D0890B-C2FC-426E-975F-1D004DA27646@mac.com> Hi James, I think you can get a wget installer that will work for Intel Macs running OS10.5 and later. Try going to the following web page: http://www.42quarks.com/ Then use item chooser menu to find the link to "wget" in order to go to the page for "wget for OS X": http://www.42quarks.com/software/wget-for-os-x Download the linked install package, and you should be able to install a compiled version of wget that you can use from the terminal without having to worry about Darwin ports, etc. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 5, 2011, at 08:51, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am trying to download a local copy of a website in its entirety. I have discovered that the "wget" command can do this via Terminal, but it does not appear to be installed. It is however on other UNIX systems by default. Apparently, there is a version for Mac OS X, but before installing it, I need to know if Darwin ports is installed by default please and how I can determine this. > > Thank you for any assistance. > > Take care :) > > James From moriond at mac.com Sat Feb 5 20:28:24 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:28:24 -1000 Subject: Path for Voiceover sounds? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Rose, Try the following directory for the location of the VoiceOver sounds: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ScreenReader.framework/Versions/A/Resources/Sounds In Finder, you can copy the path given above, then use Command-Shift-G and paste in the string into the dialog text area, and press return. I'd be very careful about checking permissions for any of the files that you're working with. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 3, 2011, at 02:11, Rose Morales wrote: > A friend and I want to coordinate to convert some existing sounds he put together into a Voiceover sound scheme. He has WIndows; I have a Mac. Only I can't figure out where the Voiceover sounds are stored to change them. I can find them on iOS, but I can't on OS X. Any ideas? > Rose From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Feb 5 20:52:31 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:52:31 +0000 Subject: wget installer (without Darwin Ports) In-Reply-To: <09D0890B-C2FC-426E-975F-1D004DA27646@mac.com> References: <928404FB-136C-4F6A-8E21-FACD4FBDC1A3@mac-access.net> <09D0890B-C2FC-426E-975F-1D004DA27646@mac.com> Message-ID: <3F11AFEE-351F-4E3F-A1DD-638A71106726@mac-access.net> Thank you Esther, Invaluable as always. :) There is another command called "Curl" which seems to do the same thing but it seems more complex than wget which I like the look of. I like learning new things and I like the command line for certain things, but simplicity is good. Thanks again TC :) James On 5 Feb 2011, at 20:27, Esther wrote: > Hi James, > > I think you can get a wget installer that will work for Intel Macs running OS10.5 and later. Try going to the following web page: > http://www.42quarks.com/ > > Then use item chooser menu to find the link to "wget" in order to go to the page for "wget for OS X": > http://www.42quarks.com/software/wget-for-os-x > > Download the linked install package, and you should be able to install a compiled version of wget that you can use from the terminal without having to worry about Darwin ports, etc. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 5, 2011, at 08:51, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I am trying to download a local copy of a website in its entirety. I have discovered that the "wget" command can do this via Terminal, but it does not appear to be installed. It is however on other UNIX systems by default. Apparently, there is a version for Mac OS X, but before installing it, I need to know if Darwin ports is installed by default please and how I can determine this. >> >> Thank you for any assistance. >> >> Take care :) >> >> James > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Sat Feb 5 20:54:40 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:54:40 -0500 Subject: Using the Braille Connect With My Mac Message-ID: <214BFF19-555E-4692-B8A6-D04AB3CCE340@gmail.com> I see the key assignments for voiceover commands with the Braille display, but are there commands for other things? As it stands now, I have to use the keyboard a lot and this is not productive. Are there ways to tab delete etc with the display as well? I prefer only Braille input and would like to use it, but going back andA forth between the display and the Apple keyboard makes it very difficult. Kristeen From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Sat Feb 5 20:57:20 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:57:20 +0000 Subject: Using the Braille Connect With My Mac In-Reply-To: <214BFF19-555E-4692-B8A6-D04AB3CCE340@gmail.com> References: <214BFF19-555E-4692-B8A6-D04AB3CCE340@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't think there are as I have this display as well i think you can assign your own commands though not sure On 5 Feb 2011, at 20:54, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I see the key assignments for voiceover commands with the Braille display, but are there commands for other things? As it stands now, I have to use the keyboard a lot and this is not productive. Are there ways to tab delete etc with the display as well? I prefer only Braille input and would like to use it, but going back andA forth between the display and the Apple keyboard makes it very difficult. > > Kristeen > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Sat Feb 5 21:35:31 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:35:31 -0500 Subject: Using the Braille Connect With My Mac In-Reply-To: References: <214BFF19-555E-4692-B8A6-D04AB3CCE340@gmail.com> Message-ID: How would we go about assigning a command to something that is not in the assignement list? Does anyone know this? KristeenOn Feb 5, 2011, at 3:57 PM, William Lomas wrote: > I don't think there are as I have this display as well i think you can assign your own commands though not sure > > On 5 Feb 2011, at 20:54, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> I see the key assignments for voiceover commands with the Braille display, but are there commands for other things? As it stands now, I have to use the keyboard a lot and this is not productive. Are there ways to tab delete etc with the display as well? I prefer only Braille input and would like to use it, but going back andA forth between the display and the Apple keyboard makes it very difficult. >> >> Kristeen >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Feb 5 21:45:35 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 11:45:35 -1000 Subject: Editing alias in mobileme In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51DE276E-550D-4863-B4EB-380152D85FD2@mac.com> Hi Simon, On Jan 30, 2011, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Dear Esther, > > Thank you for the detailed step by step instructions for editing aliases on mobileme website. They have worked perfectly. I don't know how you managed to work them out. I guess it is experience and knowledge. I would get to the "preferences" button but then I was unable to activate it. I didn't have have a clue that you had to press return. ? Your question made me realize that there's another way to navigate the MobileMe Mail page to choose and activate "Preferences" under the "Action" button -- or at least, a more logical way for standard VoiceOver usage. So here's an alternative set of instructions for step 5, which is how to navigate to "Preferences" and other menu options, and activate your selection: 5. Use item chooser menu to find "Preferences" and the other "Action" menu options (VO-I, then type "c l i c k" to get a list of "clickable text" entries associated with the list of menu items you revealed by pressing the "Action" button (VO-Space) in step 4. Arrow down through this list -- which will be the menu items "Preferences", "Rules", "Mark as:", "Unread", "Flagged", "Junk Mail", "Delete Folder", "Empty Trash", and "Print" -- and VO-Space on your selection (e.g., "Preferences"). Now route your Mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor with VO-Command-F5 (focus is now on "Preferences"), and Click with (VO-Shift-Space). In answer to your question about trying to press "Return" to activate the selection of "Preferences" in my original set of instructions for step 5, this thought came from the experience of pressing "Return" to select items in the menu options on the regular menu bar. In dialogue windows, pressing "Return" is a general way to commit to the current selections and go on to the next step. Also, from the experience of the iPhone and the iPad, for some login pages I just press "Return" either on the virtual keyboard or on a Bluetooth keyboard instead of searching for a "login" or "next" button. Running one's finger down the menu entries of the touch screen of an iPad feels very like the experience of using the Trackpad to choose the "Action" menu items on the MobileMe page. However, your question made me realize that I should have tried to check whether these menu options were exposed to VoiceOver's item chooser menu once I activated the "Action" button with VO-Space. Indeed, that was the case, and so if I use item chooser menu to look for the "clickable items" in the activated "Action" menu, I not only find "Preferences", but also move VoiceOver's focus to that selection without having to move my finger down the Trackpad to that menu option -- even if "VO-Down Arrow" is not yet working, and "Down Arrow" by itself moves focus to the selection (but without having VoiceOver announce the "Preferences" menu option). > I shall keep your instructions for future reference. I have indeed used my trackpad in trackpad commander mode enabled to move through the page. I am beginning to like it very much indeed. The only trouble I got into was when trying to sign out. I would press the "view account, sign out and something else" button then I found the "sign out" clickable button but clicking it in whichever way or pressing return on it would not work. I would get stuck. In the end I just closed my browser. ? Simon, if you are comfortable with the trackpad commander, this is very much like working with the touch screen interface on the iPad. To sign out, you can use a similar procedure to the new method of doing step 5. as described above: 1. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to navigate to the "View Account, Get Help, or Sign Out Button" and press it with VO-Space. 2. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to navigate to the clickable menu option items (which will be "view account", "get help", and "sign out" -- in this case you want "Sign Out") 3. Route your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor with (VO-Command-F5) 4. Click with VO-Shift-Space. Your page should close, and you should be signed out. > > By the way - and this is a slightly different vaguely related question k- what does the "switch apps" button do? > ? The "Switch Apps" button sounds as though they took the idea behind the "App Switcher" window on the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad. It doesn't seem to be working yet with VoiceOver, but from the help description this is supposed to switch you between the various MobileMe options like the pages for "Mail", "Contacts", "Calendar", "Gallery" (personal web pages), and "Find My iPhone". You basically bypassed this option of making the selection by appending "mail" as the option to your MobileMe login page: http://www.me.com/mail/ I found that if I went directly to the main web login page, Safari seemed to be much busier while it ran some script whose only purpose seemed to be to present me with the options to log into "mail", "accounts", "contacts", "calendar", etc. > With many thanks again. HTH. Sorry for the very delayed response, but I've not been available. This was a very interesting exercise, and your question made this more so. Cheers, Esther > > Simon > On 31 Jan 2011, at 06:00, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Simon, >> >> Simon Cavendish wrote: >> >>> Dear Listers, >>> >>> SOS! How do I edit my aliases in mobileme. >>> >>> Before Apple has changed mobileme appearance in Safari, thanks to Esther's careful explanations I was able to create and edit my aliases under mobileme by getting into preferences for Mail. I have tried again and again and I have not got a clue how to do it now. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >> >> I took a look at the MobileMe web site, and I've actually found that some of the navigation has become better, although there are still issues and unlabeled buttons. However, depending on what exactly you want to do, you may need some more instructions. In the meantime, here's how you get to the preferences panel to work with aliases. I have my web navigation set to DOM order in VoiceOver utility, and cursor tracking set to Mouse Cursor ignores VoiceOver cursor in navigation. >> >> 1. Open MobileMe directly on the mail page by using the following URL: >> http://www.me.com/mail/ >> This will resolve to the secure web site page after you type or paste the URL into your Safari address bar (Command-L to navigate to the address bar, type or paste in the URL, then press return) >> >> 2. Enter your MobileMe login name (e.g. "@me.com"), press tab, enter your password, and press return. >> >> 3. You'll be logged in at the MobileMe web page for Mail. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to navigate to the "Actions" button (e.g., press "a c t", then VO-Space). >> >> 4. Route your Mouse Cursor to your VoiceOver cursor (VO-Command-F5), then press (VO-Space) to activate the "Actions" button. >> >> 5. Move down the "Actions" menu to select "Preferences". This is one of the glitchy bits as far as VoiceOver accessibility goes, since you need to move your cursor down the menu with either Trackpad or Mouse to hear the first menu option, which is "Preferences", announced. If you have a Trackpad, stroke down a short distance with your finger. You may have to do this two or three times in succession if your vertical strokes are very short. Running down the entire "Actions" menu, you'll hear VoiceOver announce in succession, "Preferences", "Rules", "Mark as:", "Unread", "Flagged", "Junk Mail", "Delete Folder", "Empty Trash", and "Print". If your initial motion is very slight, you'll hear "HTML Content" instead of a menu option, and you'll also hear this if you run past the last "Actions" menu option of "Print". Trying to use VO-Down Arrow or Up Arrow doesn't work here (you just get the "boink" noise). Pressing the Up and Down Arrow keys by themselves does navigate the > me >> nu, but then VoiceOver doesn't announce the entries. >> >> I recommend that you perform this step of selecting the "Preferences" option of the "Actions" menu by moving your finger on the trackpad a short vertical stroke down (moving a little more than half the height of a key) till you hear VoiceOver say "Preferences", then press the "Return" key. (Note that if you move down past the "Preferences" menu option you can always move back up to it; whatever option VoiceOver last announces will have focus when you press "Return"). If you feel insecure about moving your finger on the Trackpad, you can select "Preferences" by pressing the "Down Arrow" button once, and then pressing "Return" -- but VoiceOver won't announce anything. >> >> 6. Use item chooser menu to navigate to the "Addresses" button of the Preferences pane (VO-I, press "a d d", VO-Space) >> >> 7. Route your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor (VO-Command-F5) and click (VO-Shift-Space) to select the "Addresses" tab. (Clicking here to select seems more reliable than using VO-Space.) >> >> 8. Navigate (VO-Right Arrow) to the entries on the "Addresses" tab. You'll hear two unlabeled buttons after "Addresses". The first is for adding another email address, the second is for deleting a selected email address. If you continue to VO-Right arrow you'll hear the individual entries for your various email aliases. Click with VO-Shift-Space to select an alias. Then VO-RIght arrow to find the detailed description and name that will appear in the "From" field corresponding to that alias. (These are just text boxes). >> >> 9. To delete an alias, click on it (VO-Shift-Space), then navigate back (VO-Left-Arrow) to the second unlabeled button (it will be the first you encounter if you move back) and press (VO-Space). >> >> 10. Move to the Delete pane with Item chooser menu (VO-I, press "d e l" and arrow down to the message "Are you sure you want to delete this address?" and VO-Space). Then navigate (VO-Right arrow) through the rest of the dialog window to the delete button and press (VO-Space) or cancel. (Tip: you can always cancel out of a dialog action by pressing the escape key.) >> >> 11. To add an alias, press (VO-Space) on the first of the unlabeled buttons (that you reach when you VO-Right arrow from "Addresses") >> >> 12. Move to the Add dialog window with item chooser menu (VO-I, press "a d d", and arrow down to "Add an Address", and VO-Space). Then navigate (VO-Right arrow) through the rest of the dialog window, and select entries according to their radio buttons, and press (VO-Space) the "Next", "Cancel", or "Go back" buttons as appropriate. >> >> 13. When you're finished, navigate to the "Done" button and press (VO-Space) to commit changes. >> >> HTH. Sorry that this took a while to write up as a reply. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 5 23:42:39 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:42:39 -0600 Subject: Is Darwin Ports installed on Mac OS X by default? In-Reply-To: <928404FB-136C-4F6A-8E21-FACD4FBDC1A3@mac-access.net> References: <928404FB-136C-4F6A-8E21-FACD4FBDC1A3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <844D9FDD-7653-45BA-B088-6F55465EAE11@softcon.com> Darwin ports is *not* (I repeat) *not* necessary for wget. You can simply download the wget source, and compile your own (or get a copy from someone like myself who has already done this). As an alternative, you can use curl which is installed by default on osx, but I really like wget much much better. However, if it's just web site cloning you're after, you can also use sync, which is also (I think) installed by default on osx. Personally, I will never never never install that worthless cludge used by folks who don't know how the heck to program software properly who tell folks to install darwin ports, as it's really nothing more than a lazy man's way of porting software to the mac. Instead of fixing the errors in the software that make it not compile under osx, they instead use darwin ports, which allows broken junk to run on osx introducing all bugs and gotchas so involved. Not to mention, it adds yet another layer of libraries (which is completely unnecessary) if the port was done properly in the first place. I've ported several programs to osx, and never once have I depended on darwin ports. In fact, the one time I installed, it broke my machine, and I spent several days putting things back the right way before I was able to remove all traces of that piece of junk. Now, with that said, for some people, darwin ports works great, and they've not had a day of trouble with it, but for me, It's a crutch that is a bad investment, and just makes programmers lazy, because they don't need to do any work to make programs work on osx, which is fine as far as it goes, but when said ports begin interferring with the normal operation of my machine, that's where I draw the line. Darwin ports broke a heck of a lot more than it fixed in my case, and I was able to port all the programs myself which were using darwin ports, so I simply ignore it these days, and port things myself if it's necessary. But, of course, as I said, for some folks it works a treat, and I'd never tell those folks to abandon it, but I'm saying that if you don't have it installed, don't bother, get osx native versions of your apps instead. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 6 01:17:33 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:17:33 -0800 Subject: Is Darwin Ports installed on Mac OS X by default? In-Reply-To: <844D9FDD-7653-45BA-B088-6F55465EAE11@softcon.com> References: <928404FB-136C-4F6A-8E21-FACD4FBDC1A3@mac-access.net> <844D9FDD-7653-45BA-B088-6F55465EAE11@softcon.com> Message-ID: <40729D9D-8FFD-4444-82BD-4E0457071FC2@gmail.com> Yeah someone had problems with IRSI. it was a mess. tha'ts all I'll say about that. S On Feb 5, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Darwin ports is *not* (I repeat) *not* necessary for wget. > You can simply download the wget source, and compile your own (or get a copy from someone like myself who has already done this). > As an alternative, you can use curl which is installed by default on osx, but I really like wget much much better. > However, if it's just web site cloning you're after, you can also use sync, which is also (I think) installed by default on osx. > Personally, I will never never never install that worthless cludge used by folks who don't know how the heck to program software properly who tell folks to install darwin ports, as it's really nothing more than a lazy man's way of porting software to the mac. Instead of fixing the errors in the software that make it not compile under osx, they instead use darwin ports, which allows broken junk to run on osx introducing all bugs and gotchas so involved. Not to mention, it adds yet another layer of libraries (which is completely unnecessary) if the port was done properly in the first place. > I've ported several programs to osx, and never once have I depended on darwin ports. In fact, the one time I installed, it broke my machine, and I spent several days putting things back the right way before I was able to remove all traces of that piece of junk. > > Now, with that said, for some people, darwin ports works great, and they've not had a day of trouble with it, but for me, It's a crutch that is a bad investment, and just makes programmers lazy, because they don't need to do any work to make programs work on osx, which is fine as far as it goes, but when said ports begin interferring with the normal operation of my machine, that's where I draw the line. > Darwin ports broke a heck of a lot more than it fixed in my case, and I was able to port all the programs myself which were using darwin ports, so I simply ignore it these days, and port things myself if it's necessary. > > But, of course, as I said, for some folks it works a treat, and I'd never tell those folks to abandon it, but I'm saying that if you don't have it installed, don't bother, get osx native versions of your apps instead. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 6 04:19:45 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:19:45 +1100 Subject: My itunes library is a mess.. References: Message-ID: <92043B918FD64427802F8E1C919ED088@seans> Hi, I understand there is a Itune Server available for Linux. I assume this could be used under the MAC. Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 3:26 AM Subject: Re: My itunes library is a mess.. > Actually, since the itunes files are just xml files, reading the info is > easy enough, but your idea of having one master location is a good one, > this is the method we use here, and it works well. We have several > computers, and each one uses the central location, and has access to all > the itunes data that way. The only issue we have with this method, is > that sometimes I have to go manually cange ownership/ permissions, because > when one person adds stuff, another user can't always read those files. > Makes for a mess, but if you have only a single user on your machines (or > two, and always use the non-admin user to add files) this shouldn't > become a problem. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 6 04:33:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:33:06 -0800 Subject: It seems the first Verizon iPhone has been delivered to its customer. Message-ID: How could this happen when apple didn't even start shipping to VZ yet? http://bit.ly/ePT7MM From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Sun Feb 6 06:53:25 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:53:25 +0000 Subject: bluetooth Message-ID: <90DF44D6-E622-4D68-A7A6-2DDB41493AA6@mac-access.org.uk> hi all, Ok when I got my magic mouse it called itself williams mouse. How can I disassociate the name so that when I send it to the buyer it comes up as a new device? Even when I unpair it and re-discover it, how can I make it not show up as my mouse as its name? From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Sun Feb 6 07:19:07 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 07:19:07 +0000 Subject: Using the Braille Connect With My Mac In-Reply-To: References: <214BFF19-555E-4692-B8A6-D04AB3CCE340@gmail.com> Message-ID: whoops meant I use brailliant but it only has six keys. You do it I think in the braille tab somewhere not sure On 5 Feb 2011, at 21:35, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > How would we go about assigning a command to something that is not in the assignement list? Does anyone know this? > > KristeenOn Feb 5, 2011, at 3:57 PM, William Lomas wrote: > >> I don't think there are as I have this display as well i think you can assign your own commands though not sure >> >> On 5 Feb 2011, at 20:54, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >> >>> I see the key assignments for voiceover commands with the Braille display, but are there commands for other things? As it stands now, I have to use the keyboard a lot and this is not productive. Are there ways to tab delete etc with the display as well? I prefer only Braille input and would like to use it, but going back andA forth between the display and the Apple keyboard makes it very difficult. >>> >>> Kristeen >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Feb 6 07:53:51 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 07:53:51 +0000 Subject: trackpad on the macbook Message-ID: <4d4e531d.8b90d80a.0cd1.73eb@mx.google.com> can the trackpad on the macbook be used with voiceover? if so what settings would you suggest? From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 6 08:58:38 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 08:58:38 +0000 Subject: accessible radio app for a MacBook pro. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9B12E5E7-5632-4FD0-97C9-1C2FF5D2894B@mac-access.net> Hello Jim We are a little behind on mail, so forgive me if this has already been addressed. On 4 Feb 2011, at 21:52, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > ? I am looking for an accessible full featured radio app for the Mac. What exactly do you mean by "Full Featured", and what do you mean by "Radio app"? Are you talking about broadcasting, or listening? Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 6 09:04:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:04:40 +0000 Subject: iPad and WiFi Networks In-Reply-To: <6D53787E-6CC9-4E04-9419-E809F4099F32@me.com> References: <7D72FCC7-84BD-4F8F-A8DF-5C1D206E61E2@mac-access.net> <6D53787E-6CC9-4E04-9419-E809F4099F32@me.com> Message-ID: <596FADAE-4896-496E-AD55-672597E79BE3@mac-access.net> Hello Damian On 5 Feb 2011, at 12:58, Damian McMorrow wrote: > ? Under Settings and Wifi, there should be an option called "Ask to join networks". If you turn that off, it will still connect to known networks, but if it doesn't find any that it has connected to before, it won't prompt you to connect to anything else. > Now; why on earth didn't I think of that? It's so obvious now you pointy it out; I'm a little embarrassed that it never occurred to me. Thank you for helping me overcome my own stupidity on this one, ;-) and I'm sorry for wasting everybody's time. :) Lynne From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Sun Feb 6 09:07:44 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:07:44 +0000 Subject: trackpad on the macbook In-Reply-To: <4d4e531d.8b90d80a.0cd1.73eb@mx.google.com> References: <4d4e531d.8b90d80a.0cd1.73eb@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <12063131-2EAE-4186-BC22-F9EC8EB7D83D@mac-access.org.uk> depends if you have the right macbook On 6 Feb 2011, at 07:53, michael weaver wrote: > can the trackpad on the macbook be used with voiceover? > if so what settings would you suggest? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Sun Feb 6 09:08:07 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:08:07 +0000 Subject: trackpad on the macbook In-Reply-To: <4d4e531d.8b90d80a.0cd1.73eb@mx.google.com> References: <4d4e531d.8b90d80a.0cd1.73eb@mx.google.com> Message-ID: You turn it on by holding down the voiceover keys and turning finguers anticlockwise like you are turning a dial On 6 Feb 2011, at 07:53, michael weaver wrote: > can the trackpad on the macbook be used with voiceover? > if so what settings would you suggest? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 6 09:08:19 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:08:19 +0000 Subject: iPad and WiFi Networks In-Reply-To: <257B28CD-6078-4912-B3C8-A5818176E483@googlemail.com> References: <7D72FCC7-84BD-4F8F-A8DF-5C1D206E61E2@mac-access.net> <3C063FF1-FA6C-4B6A-A90A-3C1B2F9C90AB@mac-access.net> <257B28CD-6078-4912-B3C8-A5818176E483@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <557F5AA3-27A7-4808-AC44-45553C6D3133@mac-access.net> Hi Lewis On 5 Feb 2011, at 15:27, Lewis Crack wrote: > ? The WiFi on your iPad should automatically remember your network when you come within range of your house. the WiFi on my iPone and iPod Touch automatically connect when they are in range of the router. It's interesting actually because it keeps prompting me for the password for our network; which is a little irritating because the password is 64 characters in length, includes upper and lower case letters, plus digits. We need absolute security on our networks because they are not only private networks; each device has its own public IP so we can't afford to take any chances. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 6 09:14:19 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:14:19 +0000 Subject: batteries in my keyboard In-Reply-To: <8512997E-2D2E-4143-91BE-B86EF4BC10CE@mac-access.org.uk> References: <8512997E-2D2E-4143-91BE-B86EF4BC10CE@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello William On 5 Feb 2011, at 16:15, William Lomas wrote: > ? Hi has anyone else noted the batteries in the wireless keyboard drain after 2 weeks? > Mine have just gone I only got the IMac 2 weeks ago yesterday. We've had our batteries in for months. But it obviously depends upon how you manage your keyboard. You maybe don't turn it off when not in use, we do. But as I say we got our two Bluetooth keyboards around September last year and the batteries are still going strong. By the way William, I'm very pleased to see that you can post to the group now that your settings are correct. :) Lynne From grandtheogonist at googlemail.com Sun Feb 6 09:14:28 2011 From: grandtheogonist at googlemail.com (Karl) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:14:28 +0000 Subject: Urgent Numbers help needed Message-ID: <81A5E419-6222-4C05-8D86-8CCA232ED816@googlemail.com> Hi, I think someone on list had a numbers primer or help file; if they could make themselves known, please... Meanwhile, when selecting cells in a column voice over seems just to say selected cell rather than the contents of the cell, is there a way to hear the contents of the cell as I select them? Still need help on converting a row into a header row. I know it can be done from reading the manual but I can't seem to access the right menu. Please, if anyone can help. Last of all for the minute, I am having trouble interacting with the sheet table, I seem to be bounced back to the layout area when trying to change sheets. Anyone? Thanks a lot people, this is driving me mad. Cheers Karl From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Sun Feb 6 09:19:31 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:19:31 +0000 Subject: batteries in my keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <8512997E-2D2E-4143-91BE-B86EF4BC10CE@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <6EBE3AEA-0033-4B6C-AAF2-4A56957025EC@mac-access.org.uk> Oh I thought the keyboard auto-shut off On 6 Feb 2011, at 09:14, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello William > On 5 Feb 2011, at 16:15, William Lomas wrote: > >> ? Hi has anyone else noted the batteries in the wireless keyboard drain after 2 weeks? >> Mine have just gone I only got the IMac 2 weeks ago yesterday. > > We've had our batteries in for months. But it obviously depends upon how you manage your keyboard. You maybe don't turn it off when not in use, we do. > > But as I say we got our two Bluetooth keyboards around September last year and the batteries are still going strong. > > By the way William, I'm very pleased to see that you can post to the group now that your settings are correct. :) > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grandtheogonist at googlemail.com Sun Feb 6 09:19:49 2011 From: grandtheogonist at googlemail.com (Karl) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:19:49 +0000 Subject: Sidebar in finder issue Message-ID: <700186AF-64C0-47D3-9017-389113C1FEEF@googlemail.com> Hi all, This seems to just start happening for reasons beyond me... When I use voice over to interact with the sidebar and VO up and down the list of locations, each time I move I am immediately bounced to the table listing that locations contents. I haven't changed my cursor tracking options, and in fact these seem to make no difference when I was trying to work out what was happening. Any help gratefully received. Karl From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 6 09:22:45 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:22:45 +0000 Subject: bluetooth In-Reply-To: <90DF44D6-E622-4D68-A7A6-2DDB41493AA6@mac-access.org.uk> References: <90DF44D6-E622-4D68-A7A6-2DDB41493AA6@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello William On 6 Feb 2011, at 06:53, William Lomas wrote: > > Ok when I got my magic mouse it called itself williams mouse. How can I disassociate the name so that when I send it to the buyer it comes up as a new device? > Even when I unpair it and re-discover it, how can I make it not show up as my mouse as its name? > It won't come up as William's Mouse on the new system. It uses the current username of the account on your Mac to define the name. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 6 09:30:08 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:30:08 +0000 Subject: batteries in my keyboard In-Reply-To: <6EBE3AEA-0033-4B6C-AAF2-4A56957025EC@mac-access.org.uk> References: <8512997E-2D2E-4143-91BE-B86EF4BC10CE@mac-access.org.uk> <6EBE3AEA-0033-4B6C-AAF2-4A56957025EC@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <31CFE770-ED70-427D-B683-7D50FBFEF702@mac-access.net> Hello William On 6 Feb 2011, at 09:19, William Lomas wrote: > Oh I thought the keyboard auto-shut off No. It goes into "Standby" mode after 15 minutes of non-use, but that isn't the same as power-off. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 6 10:49:03 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 10:49:03 +0000 Subject: Sidebar in finder issue In-Reply-To: <700186AF-64C0-47D3-9017-389113C1FEEF@googlemail.com> References: <700186AF-64C0-47D3-9017-389113C1FEEF@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hello Carl On 6 Feb 2011, at 09:19, Karl wrote: > ? This seems to just start happening for reasons beyond me... > When I use voice over to interact with the sidebar and VO up and down the list of locations, each time I move I am immediately bounced to the table listing that locations contents. I haven't changed my cursor tracking options, and in fact these seem to make no difference when I was trying to work out what was happening. > Try turning off the "Automatically Interact With Tab", that's what I think it's called, under VoiceOver Utility>Verbosity>Text and see if that helps. Lynne From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sun Feb 6 11:13:45 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 07:13:45 -0400 Subject: accessible radio app for a MacBook pro. In-Reply-To: <9B12E5E7-5632-4FD0-97C9-1C2FF5D2894B@mac-access.net> References: <9B12E5E7-5632-4FD0-97C9-1C2FF5D2894B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <82577BA0F44942DC814206C9D56582BE@MainComputer> Lynn: I'm talking about listening. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 4:58 AM Subject: Re: accessible radio app for a MacBook pro. Hello Jim We are a little behind on mail, so forgive me if this has already been addressed. On 4 Feb 2011, at 21:52, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > ? I am looking for an accessible full featured radio app for the Mac. What exactly do you mean by "Full Featured", and what do you mean by "Radio app"? Are you talking about broadcasting, or listening? Lynne _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From a.beech at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 6 09:37:06 2011 From: a.beech at bigpond.net.au (Adrian Beech) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:37:06 +1000 Subject: Pairing a BT keyboard with an iPhone? Message-ID: <000601cbc5e1$6b324080$4196c180$@bigpond.net.au> G'day all, I'm wondering if the folk out here can suggest how to pair a BT keyboard with an iPhone such that it is seen as a secure device therefore the PIN is not required on subsequent connections? I have an old Microsoft Elite BT keyboard which works just nicely with the iPhone though I've found that I need to do the reconnect authentication thing every time the handset is unlocked. To be honest having to re-pair the keyboard every time is somewhat painful and, for me at least, detracts from the overall usefulness of using the thing. Thanks if you can help. Cheers. AB From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Feb 6 11:42:43 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:42:43 +0000 Subject: batteries in my keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <8512997E-2D2E-4143-91BE-B86EF4BC10CE@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <8932A9A3-8D6E-49AF-A9F0-7096193BE923@googlemail.com> if i put my mac to sleep and turn my keyboard off will it wake my computer up again. as i am thinking of turning my keyboard off when not using the computer but i like to put it to sleep. Ian McNamara From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Feb 6 12:40:50 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:40:50 +0000 Subject: Urgent Numbers help needed In-Reply-To: <81A5E419-6222-4C05-8D86-8CCA232ED816@googlemail.com> References: <81A5E419-6222-4C05-8D86-8CCA232ED816@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <49B2453A-623B-498E-A83F-079E38A80ABA@mac-access.net> Hi Karl, On 6 Feb 2011, at 09:14, Karl wrote: Meanwhile, when selecting cells in a column voice over seems just to say selected cell rather than the contents of the cell, is there a way to hear the contents of the cell as I select them? I've noticed this too and have not yet found anyway around it. > Last of all for the minute, I am having trouble interacting with the sheet table, I seem to be bounced back to the layout area when trying to change sheets. Anyone? I think the reason you're finding this difficult is because when you interact with the sheet table and choose a sheet, you are actually choosing a table that is connected with the sheet. You need to make sure that the "disclosure triangle" is closed with VO+back slash. You should then be able to get your table. You could also use Command+PageUp and Command+PageDown to jump between sheets. HTH TC :) James > Hi, > I think someone on list had a numbers primer or help file; if they could make themselves known, please... > > Meanwhile, when selecting cells in a column voice over seems just to say selected cell rather than the contents of the cell, is there a way to hear the contents of the cell as I select them? > > Still need help on converting a row into a header row. I know it can be done from reading the manual but I can't seem to access the right menu. Please, if anyone can help. > > Last of all for the minute, I am having trouble interacting with the sheet table, I seem to be bounced back to the layout area when trying to change sheets. Anyone? > > Thanks a lot people, this is driving me mad. > > Cheers > Karl > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 6 12:53:07 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:53:07 +0000 Subject: batteries in my keyboard In-Reply-To: <8932A9A3-8D6E-49AF-A9F0-7096193BE923@googlemail.com> References: <8512997E-2D2E-4143-91BE-B86EF4BC10CE@mac-access.org.uk> <8932A9A3-8D6E-49AF-A9F0-7096193BE923@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <38106767-8A42-4243-B043-126EFF3DF2E0@mac-access.net> Hello Ian If you turn your keyboard off, no, it won't wake your computer up. To wake it up again just turn it back on and press keys. Lynne On 6 Feb 2011, at 11:42, Ian McNamara wrote: > if i put my mac to sleep and turn my keyboard off will it wake my computer up again. as i am thinking of turning my keyboard off when not using the computer but i like to put it to sleep. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Feb 6 14:19:27 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 14:19:27 +0000 Subject: iPad and WiFi Networks In-Reply-To: <557F5AA3-27A7-4808-AC44-45553C6D3133@mac-access.net> References: <7D72FCC7-84BD-4F8F-A8DF-5C1D206E61E2@mac-access.net> <3C063FF1-FA6C-4B6A-A90A-3C1B2F9C90AB@mac-access.net> <257B28CD-6078-4912-B3C8-A5818176E483@googlemail.com> <557F5AA3-27A7-4808-AC44-45553C6D3133@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7AE420D4-88CB-451D-90E1-995B28548A63@googlemail.com> HI Lynne. Ahh that is strange. I have put in the key for my network, and it has remembered it without fail. Like I said, every time I come within range of the network, my iPhone and iPod Touch automatically connect. Maybe when you turn Ask to Join Networks On, it may solve your problem. Best regards. Lewis. On 6 Feb 2011, at 09:08, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hi Lewis > > On 5 Feb 2011, at 15:27, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> ? The WiFi on your iPad should automatically remember your network when you come within range of your house. the WiFi on my iPone and iPod Touch automatically connect when they are in range of the router. > > It's interesting actually because it keeps prompting me for the password for our network; which is a little irritating because the password is 64 characters in length, includes upper and lower case letters, plus digits. > > We need absolute security on our networks because they are not only private networks; each device has its own public IP so we can't afford to take any chances. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Feb 6 14:53:38 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 14:53:38 +0000 Subject: Fidning an application on the APP store In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A46F4DC-3746-4C28-838E-A5F0A7031C8C@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, The APP I was using to test how to find an APP on the MAC OS APP store was Panic Transmit. I tried entering Panic and Transmit in the search string in the Toolbar but to no effect. I am pretty sure I saw Panic Transmit on the APP store when browsing it to see what was there. As it happens I already have Panic Transmit so was just using this to see how to search the APP store. Best wishes.... Paul Hopewell On 5 Feb 2011, at 11:30, Colin M wrote: > Hi Paul! > I could be mistaken but I think you've been asking about this for a while! > If I'm wrong [sorry] > But I also think you have not mentioned which app your looking for! > So if you could name the app then someone could see if they have the same trouble finding it! > And if they can find it straight away then you might have a different problem! > hth Colin > Qapla! > > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > On 5 Feb 2011, at 10:14, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> If I know the name of a MAC OS application is there a way to quickly find it on the APP store? the search function works fine on the iPhone / iPad APP store but it does not work for me on the MAC OS APP store. I tried to find an APP which I knew was there in the APP store but had no success. I must be missing something! >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 6 15:17:26 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:17:26 +0000 Subject: iPad and WiFi Networks In-Reply-To: <7AE420D4-88CB-451D-90E1-995B28548A63@googlemail.com> References: <7D72FCC7-84BD-4F8F-A8DF-5C1D206E61E2@mac-access.net> <3C063FF1-FA6C-4B6A-A90A-3C1B2F9C90AB@mac-access.net> <257B28CD-6078-4912-B3C8-A5818176E483@googlemail.com> <557F5AA3-27A7-4808-AC44-45553C6D3133@mac-access.net> <7AE420D4-88CB-451D-90E1-995B28548A63@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <7CD5750B-6E7C-491E-8033-EDEA89861219@mac-access.net> Hello Lewis On 6 Feb 2011, at 14:19, Lewis Crack wrote: > ? Ahh that is strange. I have put in the key for my network, and it has remembered it without fail. > Like I said, every time I come within range of the network, my iPhone and iPod Touch automatically connect. > Maybe when you turn Ask to Join Networks On, it may solve your problem. Gordon is fighting with another problem at the moment; of which our iDevices are a part. We have some major major network changes coming up later this month, and we are in a pretty big hurry to solve these problems. But, when that is done; or when we are next mobile, (which ever is the sooner), I will try the suggestion of turning off the option to select networks, see what happens. Lynne From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Sun Feb 6 16:57:57 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:57:57 +0000 Subject: batteries in my keyboard In-Reply-To: <38106767-8A42-4243-B043-126EFF3DF2E0@mac-access.net> References: <8512997E-2D2E-4143-91BE-B86EF4BC10CE@mac-access.org.uk> <8932A9A3-8D6E-49AF-A9F0-7096193BE923@googlemail.com> <38106767-8A42-4243-B043-126EFF3DF2E0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: well when you turn the keyboard back on the computer will come out of sleep On 6 Feb 2011, at 12:53, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Ian > > If you turn your keyboard off, no, it won't wake your computer up. To wake it up again just turn it back on and press keys. > > Lynne > > On 6 Feb 2011, at 11:42, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> if i put my mac to sleep and turn my keyboard off will it wake my computer up again. as i am thinking of turning my keyboard off when not using the computer but i like to put it to sleep. >> >> Ian McNamara >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Feb 6 17:01:18 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:01:18 +0000 Subject: i-tunes account Message-ID: <4d4ed36a.8937e30a.0996.ffff9db0@mx.google.com> when i bought my macbook pro, it went through a registration process, a bit like the one used in windows, accepting licences, connecting to my network etc. when it asked for my account details, are these only for the mac itself or do they also work as part of an account with i-tunes? i am asking because i am thinking of possibly purchasing music from the i-tunes store and i don't know if i already have an account for the store? also is it accessible and easy to navigate with the mac or the i-phone? From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 6 17:48:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:48:27 +0000 Subject: batteries in my keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <8512997E-2D2E-4143-91BE-B86EF4BC10CE@mac-access.org.uk> <8932A9A3-8D6E-49AF-A9F0-7096193BE923@googlemail.com> <38106767-8A42-4243-B043-126EFF3DF2E0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello William On 6 Feb 2011, at 16:57, William Lomas wrote: > ? well when you turn the keyboard back on the computer will come out of sleep > I could be wrong; but No, I don't think it does; not until you press a key. Lynne From helianthe at mac-access.net Sun Feb 6 17:54:57 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:54:57 +0100 Subject: i-tunes account In-Reply-To: <4d4ed36a.8937e30a.0996.ffff9db0@mx.google.com> References: <4d4ed36a.8937e30a.0996.ffff9db0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Michael, I think you are referring to your Apple ID when speaking of your account info when registering your mac Book Pro. I had to enter the same thing when I got mine. To answer your question (well I hope this is what you mean), your Apple account will also work on the App store for both IPhone/Ipod and mac apps. I am pretty sure the same account information will work on the itune store. Your Apple ID is the same no matter what Apple Services you use so you should be fine buying music from the Itune store. Hope this helps, Lyn & Twinny On Feb 6, 2011, at 6:01 PM, michael weaver wrote: > when i bought my macbook pro, it went through a registration process, a bit like the one used in windows, accepting licences, connecting to my network etc. > when it asked for my account details, are these only for the mac itself or do they also work as part of an account with i-tunes? > i am asking because i am thinking of possibly purchasing music from the i-tunes store and i don't know if i already have an account for the store? > also is it accessible and easy to navigate with the mac or the i-phone? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Feb 6 18:00:28 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:00:28 +0000 Subject: How can I tell who is marking my mail as spam Message-ID: Hello All, About two days ago all mail from mac-access and other lists I am subscribed to stopped appearing in my Apple Mail INBOX. On investigation I found that expanding my INBOX revealed a subordinate SPAM INBOX which contained all the missing EMail. I want to stop this happening but am not clear whether the problem is due to me or to my EMail provider. Possibly relevant is that my Email service was recently switched from F2S to talktalkbusiness. How can I determine whether Apple mail on my iMac is putting these messages into a SPAM folder or whether it is being done by my Email provider. The missing messages are in a mail box subordinate to my INBOX and are not in a mail box subordinate to my JUNK mail box. This leads me to suspect my Email provider has changed their SPAM detector rules. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From simoncavendish at me.com Sun Feb 6 21:08:40 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:08:40 +0000 Subject: How can I tell who is marking my mail as spam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul, Have a look in your Mail preferences under "Junk mail" to see wehther adjusting any of the rules there might help. therr's an "advance" setting button there which I've not looked at for fear of changing my own rules - not that confident yet. Hope this will help. Bestt wishes Simon On 6 Feb 2011, at 18:00, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello All, > About two days ago all mail from mac-access and other lists I am subscribed to stopped appearing in my Apple Mail INBOX. On investigation I found that expanding my INBOX revealed a subordinate SPAM INBOX which contained all the missing EMail. I want to stop this happening but am not clear whether the problem is due to me or to my EMail provider. Possibly relevant is that my Email service was recently switched from F2S to talktalkbusiness. > > How can I determine whether Apple mail on my iMac is putting these messages into a SPAM folder or whether it is being done by my Email provider. The missing messages are in a mail box subordinate to my INBOX and are not in a mail box subordinate to my JUNK mail box. This leads me to suspect my Email provider has changed their SPAM detector rules. > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sun Feb 6 21:59:30 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:59:30 +0000 Subject: Fidning an application on the APP store In-Reply-To: <3A46F4DC-3746-4C28-838E-A5F0A7031C8C@hopewell.org.uk> References: <3A46F4DC-3746-4C28-838E-A5F0A7031C8C@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Paul! Just for fun I had a play with App store! I have no account and did not sign in! I opened the search field with command+f! To the left of the search edit box are a selection of buttons! I vo+spaced on the categories one and then typed Panic into the edit box! then I had to press enter and then stopped interacting with that window, when I re-interacted with the App store window it came up with search results one of which was Transmit! If it is the one your on about it cost about 20 pounds and is for uploading and stuff to the cloud! So if I've got this right you might need to select one of those buttons then after typing your search criteria then press enter! Anyway I hope that helps! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 6 Feb 2011, at 14:53, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > The APP I was using to test how to find an APP on the MAC OS APP store was Panic Transmit. I tried entering Panic and Transmit in the search string in the Toolbar but to no effect. I am pretty sure I saw Panic Transmit on the APP store when browsing it to see what was there. As it happens I already have Panic Transmit so was just using this to see how to search the APP store. > Best wishes.... > > Paul Hopewell > On 5 Feb 2011, at 11:30, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi Paul! >> I could be mistaken but I think you've been asking about this for a while! >> If I'm wrong [sorry] >> But I also think you have not mentioned which app your looking for! >> So if you could name the app then someone could see if they have the same trouble finding it! >> And if they can find it straight away then you might have a different problem! >> hth Colin >> Qapla! >> >> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak >> >> On 5 Feb 2011, at 10:14, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> If I know the name of a MAC OS application is there a way to quickly find it on the APP store? the search function works fine on the iPhone / iPad APP store but it does not work for me on the MAC OS APP store. I tried to find an APP which I knew was there in the APP store but had no success. I must be missing something! >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Sun Feb 6 22:12:09 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:12:09 +0000 Subject: still not going to sleep Message-ID: <13F360D3-D9B4-4183-8431-ABA40531BFC2@mac-access.org.uk> HI all My mac still keeps waking up when I put it to sleep very confused now. I press the go to sleep command option, command, eject and when I hear it all power down it spins back up again as though I have pressed a key to wake it up which I haven't done From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 6 22:28:17 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 14:28:17 -0800 Subject: still not going to sleep In-Reply-To: <13F360D3-D9B4-4183-8431-ABA40531BFC2@mac-access.org.uk> References: <13F360D3-D9B4-4183-8431-ABA40531BFC2@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: If ou are backed up have you considered restoring to an earlier time? Maybe something is corrupt. S On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:12 PM, William Lomas wrote: > HI all > > My mac still keeps waking up when I put it to sleep very confused now. I press the go to sleep command option, command, eject and when I hear it all power down it spins back up again as though I have pressed a key to wake it up which I haven't done > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Feb 6 23:04:09 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 00:04:09 +0100 Subject: Fidning an application on the APP store In-Reply-To: References: <3A46F4DC-3746-4C28-838E-A5F0A7031C8C@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <424E489A-BBEF-4239-80C0-4A003DB3E3BA@gmail.com> Hello, Selecting any of those buttons in the toolbar is not necessary. That is for selecting and viewing whatever you have selected in the HTML content area. Hitting Command-F simply goes to the search field and searches the entire Mac App Store. You can either search for developers or applications, so entering Transmit might be more efficient. Regards, Nic Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Mon Feb 7 07:43:38 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 07:43:38 +0000 Subject: still not going to sleep In-Reply-To: References: <13F360D3-D9B4-4183-8431-ABA40531BFC2@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: yet last night I got it to work it went to sleep On 6 Feb 2011, at 22:28, Sarah Alawami wrote: > If ou are backed up have you considered restoring to an earlier time? Maybe something is corrupt. > > S > On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:12 PM, William Lomas wrote: > >> HI all >> >> My mac still keeps waking up when I put it to sleep very confused now. I press the go to sleep command option, command, eject and when I hear it all power down it spins back up again as though I have pressed a key to wake it up which I haven't done >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Mon Feb 7 07:52:47 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 07:52:47 +0000 Subject: Fred is quiet? Message-ID: <39843CBB-2216-44FA-BD4B-A8662CE4EF92@mac-access.org.uk> HI Has anyone else noted on an imac (i have the 2010 model) that all voices apart from Alex when using voiceover in the latest 10.6 are v quiet? From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Feb 7 07:59:08 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 07:59:08 +0000 Subject: still not going to sleep In-Reply-To: References: <13F360D3-D9B4-4183-8431-ABA40531BFC2@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <89DFC7E6-B51F-4072-B0F8-5995F764E63D@googlemail.com> i always go to the apple menu and put it to sleep that way. Ian McNamara From gordon at mac-access.net Mon Feb 7 08:16:55 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 08:16:55 +0000 Subject: still not going to sleep In-Reply-To: <13F360D3-D9B4-4183-8431-ABA40531BFC2@mac-access.org.uk> References: <13F360D3-D9B4-4183-8431-ABA40531BFC2@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi William Do you have the "Wake On LAN" option enabled? If so and something comes up on the Internet, such as an email, it might wake up your Mac. Gordon On 6 Feb 2011, at 22:12, William Lomas wrote: > HI all > > My mac still keeps waking up when I put it to sleep very confused now. I press the go to sleep command option, command, eject and when I hear it all power down it spins back up again as though I have pressed a key to wake it up which I haven't done > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 08:20:33 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 00:20:33 -0800 Subject: Fred is quiet? In-Reply-To: <39843CBB-2216-44FA-BD4B-A8662CE4EF92@mac-access.org.uk> References: <39843CBB-2216-44FA-BD4B-A8662CE4EF92@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: Yep I have. I believe all but the Alex voice are Fred based voice. On 06/02/2011, at 23:52, William Lomas wrote: > HI Has anyone else noted on an imac (i have the 2010 model) that all voices apart from Alex when using voiceover in the latest 10.6 are v quiet? > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Mon Feb 7 08:51:26 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 08:51:26 +0000 Subject: still not going to sleep In-Reply-To: References: <13F360D3-D9B4-4183-8431-ABA40531BFC2@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <1A09E0BB-9E69-4F17-9C52-996C1281CCEA@mac-access.org.uk> is that the wake on network access? i find if i turn off my bluetooth keyboard, and then press the power button once it goes to sleep now with no issues On 7 Feb 2011, at 08:16, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi William > > Do you have the "Wake On LAN" option enabled? If so and something comes up on the Internet, such as an email, it might wake up your Mac. > > Gordon > > > On 6 Feb 2011, at 22:12, William Lomas wrote: > >> HI all >> >> My mac still keeps waking up when I put it to sleep very confused now. I press the go to sleep command option, command, eject and when I hear it all power down it spins back up again as though I have pressed a key to wake it up which I haven't done >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 09:02:33 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:02:33 +0100 Subject: Fred is quiet? In-Reply-To: References: <39843CBB-2216-44FA-BD4B-A8662CE4EF92@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <0253E0C4-A3BB-4079-BF85-A63FDC7A999E@gmail.com> Hi! I guess this is only specific somehow to your iMac, then. I just tried them, and there is no difference in the volume. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From gordon at mac-access.net Mon Feb 7 09:49:27 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:49:27 +0000 Subject: still not going to sleep In-Reply-To: <1A09E0BB-9E69-4F17-9C52-996C1281CCEA@mac-access.org.uk> References: <13F360D3-D9B4-4183-8431-ABA40531BFC2@mac-access.org.uk> <1A09E0BB-9E69-4F17-9C52-996C1281CCEA@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <23A56882-663C-4108-8B8C-F2EE1E499658@mac-access.net> Hi William Yes, that is what I'm talking about. I believe Lynne suggested to you that that is what would happen with your keyboard. So it seems she was right. Gordon On 7 Feb 2011, at 08:51, William Lomas wrote: > is that the wake on network access? > i find if i turn off my bluetooth keyboard, and then press the power button once it goes to sleep now with no issues From weavermicha at googlemail.com Mon Feb 7 12:31:20 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 12:31:20 +0000 Subject: keyboard chat in skype Message-ID: <4d4fe5a1.dd25e30a.2b37.ffffcca4@mx.google.com> is keyboard chat in skype accessible? i suppose what i mean is does the chat window or whatever have focus meaning that you don't have to keep switching windows when sending and receiving in chat? i suppose i am trying to say if you are chatting is the two way chat pretty instantanious so you don't have to faf around trying to view what someone is writing to you and you either lose the thread of the conversation or the person gets fed up waiting for you to reply to their chat messages? i know when i was using windoweyes with msn messenger, when you typed a message in the window when keyboard chatting, as soon as the person replied, you saw the message without having to fiddle around although sometimes the screen sometimes did get covered with information like sometimes the msn pages sometimes came up and got in the way. i suppose i am asking because i might change my presence to skype me and i know that when i did this with the windows version, people tried to keyboard chat with me and i seemed to have problems with the accessibility in the chat window and when i tried to insist on voice chat, i did at one point manage to read a message from the person saying they couldn't voice chat because they didn't have a microphone which they may have done if they had a laptop which would have one built in and i think the person i tried communicating with was also from a different country so they may not have understood when i tried to do voice chat. From helianthe at mac-access.net Mon Feb 7 12:45:02 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:45:02 +0100 Subject: keyboard chat in skype In-Reply-To: <4d4fe5a1.dd25e30a.2b37.ffffcca4@mx.google.com> References: <4d4fe5a1.dd25e30a.2b37.ffffcca4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4D4FE94E.5070001@mac-access.net> Michael, Well to answer your main question regarding keyboard chat accessibility, I can tell you from experience that it is relatively accessible but you have to interact with the html window. you then have to VOright and VO left to go through the different chat lines. Hope this helps, Lyn & Twinny On 07/02/2011 13:31, michael weaver wrote: > is keyboard chat in skype accessible? > i suppose what i mean is does the chat window or whatever have focus > meaning that you don't have to keep switching windows when sending and > receiving in chat? > i suppose i am trying to say if you are chatting is the two way chat > pretty instantanious so you don't have to faf around trying to view > what someone is writing to you and you either lose the thread of the > conversation or the person gets fed up waiting for you to reply to > their chat messages? > i know when i was using windoweyes with msn messenger, when you typed > a message in the window when keyboard chatting, as soon as the person > replied, you saw the message without having to fiddle around although > sometimes the screen sometimes did get covered with information like > sometimes the msn pages sometimes came up and got in the way. > i suppose i am asking because i might change my presence to skype me > and i know that when i did this with the windows version, people tried > to keyboard chat with me and i seemed to have problems with the > accessibility in the chat window and when i tried to insist on voice > chat, i did at one point manage to read a message from the person > saying they couldn't voice chat because they didn't have a microphone > which they may have done if they had a laptop which would have one > built in and i think the person i tried communicating with was also > from a different country so they may not have understood when i tried > to do voice chat. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to > the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Mon Feb 7 13:20:13 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:20:13 +0100 Subject: keyboard chat in skype In-Reply-To: <4d4fe5a1.dd25e30a.2b37.ffffcca4@mx.google.com> References: <4d4fe5a1.dd25e30a.2b37.ffffcca4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <8BA0639B-1724-4FB2-A21B-AF7B2D362BD6@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Michael, To make the keyboard chat in Skype a pleasant experience, you have to make sure that Web Navigation is set to DOM, and you have to turn cursor tracking off. That way, you can just interact with the HTML area, then VO-Right arrow to follow the chat, and type whenever you want to. You will not lose focus that way. Cheers, Anne On 7 Feb 2011, at 13:31, michael weaver wrote: > is keyboard chat in skype accessible? > i suppose what i mean is does the chat window or whatever have focus meaning that you don't have to keep switching windows when sending and receiving in chat? > i suppose i am trying to say if you are chatting is the two way chat pretty instantanious so you don't have to faf around trying to view what someone is writing to you and you either lose the thread of the conversation or the person gets fed up waiting for you to reply to their chat messages? > i know when i was using windoweyes with msn messenger, when you typed a message in the window when keyboard chatting, as soon as the person replied, you saw the message without having to fiddle around although sometimes the screen sometimes did get covered with information like sometimes the msn pages sometimes came up and got in the way. > i suppose i am asking because i might change my presence to skype me and i know that when i did this with the windows version, people tried to keyboard chat with me and i seemed to have problems with the accessibility in the chat window and when i tried to insist on voice chat, i did at one point manage to read a message from the person saying they couldn't voice chat because they didn't have a microphone which they may have done if they had a laptop which would have one built in and i think the person i tried communicating with was also from a different country so they may not have understood when i tried to do voice chat. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From helianthe at mac-access.net Mon Feb 7 13:33:12 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 14:33:12 +0100 Subject: keyboard chat in skype In-Reply-To: <8BA0639B-1724-4FB2-A21B-AF7B2D362BD6@anarchie.org.uk> References: <4d4fe5a1.dd25e30a.2b37.ffffcca4@mx.google.com> <8BA0639B-1724-4FB2-A21B-AF7B2D362BD6@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <4D4FF498.6000200@mac-access.net> Thanks for the additional tips Ann, I didn't know that turning off cursor tracking would make a difference...will try this at some point and seehow that goes. Lyn & Twinny On 07/02/2011 14:20, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Michael, > > To make the keyboard chat in Skype a pleasant experience, you have to make sure that Web Navigation is set to DOM, and you have to turn cursor tracking off. That way, you can just interact with the HTML area, then VO-Right arrow to follow the chat, and type whenever you want to. You will not lose focus that way. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > On 7 Feb 2011, at 13:31, michael weaver wrote: > >> is keyboard chat in skype accessible? >> i suppose what i mean is does the chat window or whatever have focus meaning that you don't have to keep switching windows when sending and receiving in chat? >> i suppose i am trying to say if you are chatting is the two way chat pretty instantanious so you don't have to faf around trying to view what someone is writing to you and you either lose the thread of the conversation or the person gets fed up waiting for you to reply to their chat messages? >> i know when i was using windoweyes with msn messenger, when you typed a message in the window when keyboard chatting, as soon as the person replied, you saw the message without having to fiddle around although sometimes the screen sometimes did get covered with information like sometimes the msn pages sometimes came up and got in the way. >> i suppose i am asking because i might change my presence to skype me and i know that when i did this with the windows version, people tried to keyboard chat with me and i seemed to have problems with the accessibility in the chat window and when i tried to insist on voice chat, i did at one point manage to read a message from the person saying they couldn't voice chat because they didn't have a microphone which they may have done if they had a laptop which would have one built in and i think the person i tried communicating with was also from a different country so they may not have understood when i tried to do voice chat. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 15:25:47 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:25:47 -0500 Subject: handbrake Message-ID: Hello, everyone, handbrake.com has a new version. It would be great if anyone who has handbrake would post info as to how the newest version works, and how it's improved over the prior version. Thanks! Marcy From simoncavendish at me.com Mon Feb 7 15:34:52 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:34:52 +0000 Subject: handbrake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32C82758-3A30-4DFD-86FF-DA568022D74F@me.com> Hello, I have recently installed Handbrake and used it to convert a set of dvd's into a format that I could then import into iTunes. I found the process easy and had no hitches. This is the first time I used Handbrake. I think there are many other functions that one can accomplish with Handbrake but I have not had the time to explore them. One thing I had to do though in order to accomplish my task is to install VLC. I don't know why but I had to do so. With best wishes Simon On 7 Feb 2011, at 15:25, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Hello, everyone, > > handbrake.com > > has a new version. It would be great if anyone who has handbrake would post info as to how the newest version works, and how it's improved over the prior version. > Thanks! > > Marcy > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Mon Feb 7 16:14:51 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:14:51 +0000 Subject: handbrake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Marcy I'll try this, as I always found Handbrake very very slow in comparison to other products which do the same thing. Gordon On 7 Feb 2011, at 15:25, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Hello, everyone, > > handbrake.com > > has a new version. It would be great if anyone who has handbrake would post info as to how the newest version works, and how it's improved over the prior version. > Thanks! > > Marcy > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Feb 7 16:31:17 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:31:17 -0600 Subject: How can I tell who is marking my mail as spam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F20E1F-19A4-4504-9E0D-F67F273B08B4@softcon.com> When you open one of the emails in the spam folder, check your toolbar in mail. If apple mail is placing them in the spam folder (not likely, but possible) you'll see a button that says not spam. If you see one labeled mark as spam, then that's an indicator that apple mail isn't the culprit. If the not spam button is there, just click it, and mail will (eventually) learn that those messages aren't to be marked as spam, and will leave them in your inbox where they should be. Hope this helps. From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Feb 7 19:11:15 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:11:15 +0000 Subject: New Version of DVDRemaster Pro Available Message-ID: <4BEAD8E3-42D8-49B3-B3D4-A43436539E6F@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I just thought I'd let the group know that there is a new version of DVDRemaster Pro available. This new version is classed as a major upgrade release, as it's v7.0 rather than a v6.x update. The main things that are new don't concern the visually impaired, so you might really want to give it a miss unless you like to stay current, of course. The enhancements concern the auto-cropping of black boarders on DVDs. Now you can manually decide where your black boarders are so that you get more precise editing and cropping. You can also preserve visual subtitles in multiple languages, regardless of your audio language; but dependent upon your video resolution in the output. Again, that won't do anything for those of you who are blind I wouldn't think. The upgrade only costs $9.0 US; so you might still consider it worthwhile if you want to remain current. But really there's nothing to get too excited about if you have no vision. Gordon and I decided we would upgrade; mainly for my benefit. It means I can now manually decide what constitutes black boarders and edit the video more accurately. But to all intents and purposes, for Gordon it makes absolutely no difference at all. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 19:57:10 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:57:10 -0800 Subject: Fred is quiet? In-Reply-To: <0253E0C4-A3BB-4079-BF85-A63FDC7A999E@gmail.com> References: <39843CBB-2216-44FA-BD4B-A8662CE4EF92@mac-access.org.uk> <0253E0C4-A3BB-4079-BF85-A63FDC7A999E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <35B47450-2A82-46BD-8536-9617D663699B@gmail.com> All of my sound ingineers can hear it as well. It is a difference of about 4 Db. On 07/02/2011, at 1:02, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > I guess this is only specific somehow to your iMac, then. I just tried them, and there is no difference in the volume. > > Regards, > Nic > > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From helianthe at mac-access.net Mon Feb 7 19:59:33 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:59:33 +0100 Subject: Fred is quiet? In-Reply-To: <35B47450-2A82-46BD-8536-9617D663699B@gmail.com> References: <39843CBB-2216-44FA-BD4B-A8662CE4EF92@mac-access.org.uk> <0253E0C4-A3BB-4079-BF85-A63FDC7A999E@gmail.com> <35B47450-2A82-46BD-8536-9617D663699B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <97875222-BF1B-4A05-A012-0E51F4EE74E7@mac-access.net> Well I just tried Fred and the other voices on my macbook pro and some voices are quieter than others but it has always been so with me so I don't notice any difference there. Lyn & Twinny On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > All of my sound ingineers can hear it as well. It is a difference of about 4 Db. > > On 07/02/2011, at 1:02, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I guess this is only specific somehow to your iMac, then. I just tried them, and there is no difference in the volume. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From weavermicha at googlemail.com Mon Feb 7 20:12:48 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 20:12:48 +0000 Subject: skype me missing Message-ID: <4d5051c7.460ae30a.1b23.fffff0ad@mx.google.com> i went through the profile status under the file menu in skype. i only seem to have four options, on-line, offline, invisible and away. i thought there was a skype me option which gives the user the option of having people contact them. From helianthe at mac-access.net Mon Feb 7 20:16:48 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:16:48 +0100 Subject: skype me missing In-Reply-To: <4d5051c7.460ae30a.1b23.fffff0ad@mx.google.com> References: <4d5051c7.460ae30a.1b23.fffff0ad@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Michael, Yes the new version of skype does not have the "skype me" mode anymore, so if you want to use this option, you'll have to go back to the older version. I personally never liked the "skype me" option. Lyn & Twinny ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From helianthe at mac-access.net Mon Feb 7 20:19:18 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:19:18 +0100 Subject: skype me missing In-Reply-To: References: <4d5051c7.460ae30a.1b23.fffff0ad@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Michael, Another thing you could probably do as well if you want to be contacted by people, just change your privacy settings and choose the "anyone option" for calls and chats. That would be the same thing as the "skype me" mode I believe. Lyn & Twinny On Feb 7, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > Michael, > > Yes the new version of skype does not have the "skype me" mode anymore, so if you want to use this option, you'll have to go back to the older version. I personally never liked the "skype me" option. > > Lyn & Twinny > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Feb 7 20:35:00 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:35:00 +0000 Subject: Fidning an application on the APP store In-Reply-To: References: <3A46F4DC-3746-4C28-838E-A5F0A7031C8C@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Colin, Thanks for that. I had failed to press Enter as I assumed the search worked the same way as it does in iTunes where you do not need to press Enter. It now works OK for me. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell On 6 Feb 2011, at 21:59, Colin M wrote: > Hi Paul! > Just for fun I had a play with App store! > I have no account and did not sign in! > I opened the search field with command+f! > To the left of the search edit box are a selection of buttons! > I vo+spaced on the categories one and then typed Panic into the edit box! > then I had to press enter and then stopped interacting with that window, when I re-interacted with the App store window it came up with search results one of which was Transmit! > If it is the one your on about it cost about 20 pounds and is for uploading and stuff to the cloud! > So if I've got this right you might need to select one of those buttons then after typing your search criteria then press enter! > Anyway I hope that helps! > Colin > Qapla! > > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > On 6 Feb 2011, at 14:53, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> The APP I was using to test how to find an APP on the MAC OS APP store was Panic Transmit. I tried entering Panic and Transmit in the search string in the Toolbar but to no effect. I am pretty sure I saw Panic Transmit on the APP store when browsing it to see what was there. As it happens I already have Panic Transmit so was just using this to see how to search the APP store. >> Best wishes.... >> >> Paul Hopewell >> On 5 Feb 2011, at 11:30, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul! >>> I could be mistaken but I think you've been asking about this for a while! >>> If I'm wrong [sorry] >>> But I also think you have not mentioned which app your looking for! >>> So if you could name the app then someone could see if they have the same trouble finding it! >>> And if they can find it straight away then you might have a different problem! >>> hth Colin >>> Qapla! >>> >>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak >>> >>> On 5 Feb 2011, at 10:14, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> If I know the name of a MAC OS application is there a way to quickly find it on the APP store? the search function works fine on the iPhone / iPad APP store but it does not work for me on the MAC OS APP store. I tried to find an APP which I knew was there in the APP store but had no success. I must be missing something! >>>> Many thanks. >>>> >>>> Paul Hopewell >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 20:46:28 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:46:28 -0800 Subject: skype me missing In-Reply-To: References: <4d5051c7.460ae30a.1b23.fffff0ad@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I also hear that someday unless it already happend that the na will go away to so all you have are on and off line, dnd and invisable. S On Feb 7, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > Michael, > > Yes the new version of skype does not have the "skype me" mode anymore, so if you want to use this option, you'll have to go back to the older version. I personally never liked the "skype me" option. > > Lyn & Twinny > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 20:47:20 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:47:20 -0800 Subject: Fred is quiet? In-Reply-To: <97875222-BF1B-4A05-A012-0E51F4EE74E7@mac-access.net> References: <39843CBB-2216-44FA-BD4B-A8662CE4EF92@mac-access.org.uk> <0253E0C4-A3BB-4079-BF85-A63FDC7A999E@gmail.com> <35B47450-2A82-46BD-8536-9617D663699B@gmail.com> <97875222-BF1B-4A05-A012-0E51F4EE74E7@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9BBC870B-0F62-46A0-88D5-ED59DE77E517@gmail.com> Yeha I can hear the difference of about 2 db or more but I have to in my field. The difference of fred and alex when booting in to the snl disk is at least 4 to 8 db quitter. On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > Well I just tried Fred and the other voices on my macbook pro and some voices are quieter than others but it has always been so with me so I don't notice any difference there. > > Lyn & Twinny > > On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> All of my sound ingineers can hear it as well. It is a difference of about 4 Db. >> >> On 07/02/2011, at 1:02, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I guess this is only specific somehow to your iMac, then. I just tried them, and there is no difference in the volume. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Feb 7 20:50:25 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:50:25 +0000 Subject: Fred is quiet? In-Reply-To: <9BBC870B-0F62-46A0-88D5-ED59DE77E517@gmail.com> References: <39843CBB-2216-44FA-BD4B-A8662CE4EF92@mac-access.org.uk> <0253E0C4-A3BB-4079-BF85-A63FDC7A999E@gmail.com> <35B47450-2A82-46BD-8536-9617D663699B@gmail.com> <97875222-BF1B-4A05-A012-0E51F4EE74E7@mac-access.net> <9BBC870B-0F62-46A0-88D5-ED59DE77E517@gmail.com> Message-ID: Agreed Sarah, there is a distinct difference. I used some very good AKG circum-oral headphones which we used in the lab for user testing, and I would say you are spot on with 4-8 db. On 7 Feb 2011, at 20:47, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yeha I can hear the difference of about 2 db or more but I have to in my field. The difference of fred and alex when booting in to the snl disk is at least 4 to 8 db quitter. > On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > >> Well I just tried Fred and the other voices on my macbook pro and some voices are quieter than others but it has always been so with me so I don't notice any difference there. >> >> Lyn & Twinny >> >> On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> All of my sound ingineers can hear it as well. It is a difference of about 4 Db. >>> >>> On 07/02/2011, at 1:02, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I guess this is only specific somehow to your iMac, then. I just tried them, and there is no difference in the volume. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Nic >>>> >>>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >>>> Facebook >>>> Twitter >>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >>>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>>> AIM: cincinster >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> ********** >> You can contact me in the following ways: >> email: >> helianthe at mac-access.net >> msn: >> lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >> skype: >> keanemaniac >> facebook: >> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >> I am now also on twitter: >> www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >> Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From simoncavendish at me.com Mon Feb 7 22:03:05 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 22:03:05 +0000 Subject: Opening and closing messages in mail using gestures Message-ID: Hello, Just in case somebody might find it useful - and prompted by Will's query some time ago regarding how to use gestures to open and close a message in Mail - I've just discovered the following solution. 1. First of all, while your Voiceover cursor is in the mailbox list, you can easily jump to the message list of the mailbox currently highlighted by putting one finger on the trackpad and then pressing control button. You will be taken to the relevant message list and will be interacting with it automatically. (You can go back to the list of mailboxes by repeating the same gesture) 2. Flick to the right or left to move along a row, or up an down a column and once you are on the message you wish to read, press the control button and then press and hold for a second or two the trackpad. You will by so doing activate the menu wehre you can flick up and down through the familiar choices of "open", "move", "mark" "delete", etc. 3. Once you are on the open button, double-tap to activate. Your message will open. Now you can interact with the content of the message by flicking with two fingers to the right and flicking up or down to read line by line or flick right and left to read word by word. Alternatively, you may not wish to interact and just read the message by flicking two fingers up to read the entire message. To close a message, one has to create a new gesture first. I am going to assume that you know how to choose and assign a new gesture in Voiceover utility, having activated trackpad commander first. What I did, was to assign a gesture - in my case command plus open pinch - to activate the item chooser menu. Once the gesture is assigned and when you are in in an open message: 4. Activate the item chooser menu, using your assigned gesture. 5. Flick down to locate the close button which is only one or two flicks away, and double tap to highlight and double-tap again to activate. Your message will have closed and you are back in the list of your messages again. I think it's great fun and I am delighted that trackpad gestures can so successfully perform the usual Voiceover tasks using gestures. Will's query posed a challenge to me. I thought that there would have to be a way of opening, reading and closing messages using gestures or else the whole exercise would be just tiresome. I am delighted that this is so. Hope somebody will find it useful. For those of you who might be wondering how to assign new gestures, in Voiceover application which you can activate with vo+f8, you can go down to the commanders menu and choose help - the rightmost item, activate it and read about gestures and how to assign them. If you make a mistake in assigning your gestures, Voiceover is very forgiving. You can go back to the menu items where - having assigned a gesture - you will find a new item saying "unassign gesture". This will revert the gesture to its neutral, unassigned state. With best wishes Simon From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Mon Feb 7 22:03:37 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:03:37 +0000 Subject: is this true about Lion? Message-ID: Hi all! A friend of mine said that heard that Lion when it comes out will be more like using the I pad, I phone and I touch! So if this is right those of you who have Imac's might have to get a magic track pad! And apparently they are getting rid of spotlite as well! Anyone got more knowledge of this [ do I have to get a mtrackpad! ] well I was thinking of doing so anyway! :] Any thoughts! All the best! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 22:09:07 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:09:07 -0800 Subject: Verizon iPhone Carries World-Mode 'Gobi' Chip From Qualcomm [Updated] Message-ID: <244BAD54-D9F0-4CD4-B30A-733EC095C1FC@gmail.com> Will this inable gsm iphones to work on cdma carriers as well? and will tmobile's freq be supported as well? read on: http://goo.gl/4egtQ From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 22:11:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:11:08 -0800 Subject: Apple to Eliminate Retail Box Software Inventory Message-ID: <59E24D76-C53C-4D0E-893C-4C7CDACB62B8@gmail.com> Could this enable more jobs at the apple stores? Is this a good move on apple's part? read on: http://goo.gl/XBF9B From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Feb 7 22:34:41 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:34:41 +0000 Subject: is this true about Lion? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9489BBC7-C923-4EB7-BECD-4074FA7C87C9@mac-access.net> Colin, Your friend might be right and might be wrong. The thing to remember with Apple is that the only people who know are Apple. They are very secretive about their plans and will not release anything until they are ready. According to the October "Back To The Mac" conference, it seems likely that certain features of the IOS will be incorporated into the new operating system, butApple will continue to allow keyboard control as not everyone is physically able to use a TrackPad, not to mention those who do not want to. Besides, to do away with keyboards would be breaking US Disability Law, not to mention their own philosophy of "Universal Access". But as I say, this is all speculation and as the time for Lion draws near, there'll be rumours galore flying around d. The only time we'll know for sure, is when Lion ends up on our machines. I hope this sets your mind at rest a little. Happy speculating :) TC :) James On 7 Feb 2011, at 22:03, Colin M wrote: > Hi all! > A friend of mine said that heard that Lion when it comes out will be more like using the I pad, I phone and I touch! > So if this is right those of you who have Imac's might have to get a magic track pad! > And apparently they are getting rid of spotlite as well! > Anyone got more knowledge of this [ do I have to get a mtrackpad! ] well I was thinking of doing so anyway! :] > Any thoughts! > All the best! > Colin > Qapla! > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 22:54:45 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:54:45 +0100 Subject: Fred is quiet? In-Reply-To: <97875222-BF1B-4A05-A012-0E51F4EE74E7@mac-access.net> References: <39843CBB-2216-44FA-BD4B-A8662CE4EF92@mac-access.org.uk> <0253E0C4-A3BB-4079-BF85-A63FDC7A999E@gmail.com> <35B47450-2A82-46BD-8536-9617D663699B@gmail.com> <97875222-BF1B-4A05-A012-0E51F4EE74E7@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <13F9EFF5-A2A7-4BF3-BFF8-2C7B59A20DA8@gmail.com> Hi, I tend to agree with Lynn. This isn't a specific change introduced into Mac OS X. Even when I used Fred prior to 10.6, it was still noticeable. I didn't really pay much attention to it as I never use Fred in general, and in a classroom with students pretending to study, it's not terribly noticeable. In a quiet environment, though, it's pretty obvious. It may be worth reporting. It's probably closer to 2DB rather than 4, though, but it'd probably be preferable if it was possible to get an approximate number for the DB drop. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 23:18:02 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:18:02 +0100 Subject: is this true about Lion? In-Reply-To: <9489BBC7-C923-4EB7-BECD-4074FA7C87C9@mac-access.net> References: <9489BBC7-C923-4EB7-BECD-4074FA7C87C9@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <14F5DE2B-0515-42BA-A553-3ED0D6BF2737@gmail.com> Hi! As for Spotlight, I can't really imagine that. I just can't see it being touched much, except being slightly improved over time, as it is on all their devices now and proving very useful. With that out of the way, I suppose it's time to get back to hoping my roof doesn't eventually fly off of my house because of this hurricane. Whoa! Take care folks. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From w9fyi at me.com Mon Feb 7 23:33:25 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:33:25 -0700 Subject: handbrake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <563BAA45-472E-4C20-A2AF-0082D17382D8@me.com> Hi there, I have used handbreak some and it was able to givem e close encounters of the thirdkind, the movie, quite nicely. I find the ap to be quite accessible. HTH Justin On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Hello, everyone, > > handbrake.com > > has a new version. It would be great if anyone who has handbrake would post info as to how the newest version works, and how it's improved over the prior version. > Thanks! > > Marcy > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From w9fyi at me.com Mon Feb 7 23:36:48 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:36:48 -0700 Subject: is this true about Lion? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't know that is necessarily the case. Spotlight is one of those things on the mac that are just "god" and Apple would be hard pressed to ger rid of that. However, to answer your question, I do think Lion is going to bemore IOSish as I think that is purly Apple's intention. On Feb 7, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi all! > A friend of mine said that heard that Lion when it comes out will be more like using the I pad, I phone and I touch! > So if this is right those of you who have Imac's might have to get a magic track pad! > And apparently they are getting rid of spotlite as well! > Anyone got more knowledge of this [ do I have to get a mtrackpad! ] well I was thinking of doing so anyway! :] > Any thoughts! > All the best! > Colin > Qapla! > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 23:37:30 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:37:30 -0800 Subject: is this true about Lion? In-Reply-To: <9489BBC7-C923-4EB7-BECD-4074FA7C87C9@mac-access.net> References: <9489BBC7-C923-4EB7-BECD-4074FA7C87C9@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Not sure I'll upgrade. lion I think will come at the time of convention andI"m saving for that. .ol! We'll see wht happens. S On Feb 7, 2011, at 2:34 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Colin, > > Your friend might be right and might be wrong. The thing to remember with Apple is that the only people who know are Apple. They are very secretive about their plans and will not release anything until they are ready. According to the October "Back To The Mac" conference, it seems likely that certain features of the IOS will be incorporated into the new operating system, butApple will continue to allow keyboard control as not everyone is physically able to use a TrackPad, not to mention those who do not want to. Besides, to do away with keyboards would be breaking US Disability Law, not to mention their own philosophy of "Universal Access". > > But as I say, this is all speculation and as the time for Lion draws near, there'll be rumours galore flying around d. The only time we'll know for sure, is when Lion ends up on our machines. I hope this sets your mind at rest a little. > > Happy speculating :) > > TC :) > James > > > On 7 Feb 2011, at 22:03, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi all! >> A friend of mine said that heard that Lion when it comes out will be more like using the I pad, I phone and I touch! >> So if this is right those of you who have Imac's might have to get a magic track pad! >> And apparently they are getting rid of spotlite as well! >> Anyone got more knowledge of this [ do I have to get a mtrackpad! ] well I was thinking of doing so anyway! :] >> Any thoughts! >> All the best! >> Colin >> Qapla! >> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 23:40:01 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:40:01 -0800 Subject: Fred is quiet? In-Reply-To: <13F9EFF5-A2A7-4BF3-BFF8-2C7B59A20DA8@gmail.com> References: <39843CBB-2216-44FA-BD4B-A8662CE4EF92@mac-access.org.uk> <0253E0C4-A3BB-4079-BF85-A63FDC7A999E@gmail.com> <35B47450-2A82-46BD-8536-9617D663699B@gmail.com> <97875222-BF1B-4A05-A012-0E51F4EE74E7@mac-access.net> <13F9EFF5-A2A7-4BF3-BFF8-2C7B59A20DA8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <13A23AC5-693C-4930-8C30-CEB432F15577@gmail.com> I might report it or not depending on if it changes wiht lion. I don't use the fred veriount much but ther might be a day when I might have to. lol! Take care all. On Feb 7, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > I tend to agree with Lynn. > > This isn't a specific change introduced into Mac OS X. Even when I used Fred prior to 10.6, it was still noticeable. I didn't really pay much attention to it as I never use Fred in general, and in a classroom with students pretending to study, it's not terribly noticeable. > > In a quiet environment, though, it's pretty obvious. It may be worth reporting. It's probably closer to 2DB rather than 4, though, but it'd probably be preferable if it was possible to get an approximate number for the DB drop. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Feb 7 23:49:57 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:49:57 -0600 Subject: Fred is quiet? In-Reply-To: <13A23AC5-693C-4930-8C30-CEB432F15577@gmail.com> References: <39843CBB-2216-44FA-BD4B-A8662CE4EF92@mac-access.org.uk> <0253E0C4-A3BB-4079-BF85-A63FDC7A999E@gmail.com> <35B47450-2A82-46BD-8536-9617D663699B@gmail.com> <97875222-BF1B-4A05-A012-0E51F4EE74E7@mac-access.net> <13F9EFF5-A2A7-4BF3-BFF8-2C7B59A20DA8@gmail.com> <13A23AC5-693C-4930-8C30-CEB432F15577@gmail.com> Message-ID: I use fred for everything, because it's closest to the artic voice I'm so used to, as I used artic synthesizers since 1986, until I got my mac, and besides, Alex eats too much system ram for my tastes, and causes the system to run slower than it does when I'm using fred. I'll sometimes use bruce for reading books (my children like it better) bt I use fred for my normal everyday use, and 100 percent is too slow But, as far as volume goes, since fred is generally the only one I use, I've not noticed this behavior. Doubt this helps, but just figured I'd throw in my $0.02 worth. :) From helianthe at mac-access.net Tue Feb 8 05:14:10 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 06:14:10 +0100 Subject: accessible twitter client for the IPhone? Message-ID: <8B4F1B51-AF66-412C-8206-E3E03113C178@mac-access.net> Hello listers, Well, it's all in the subject line: is there any accessible twitter client for the Iphone? If there is more than one, which is the most accessible? thanks for any help, have a good one! Lyn & Twinny ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 05:25:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:25:08 -0800 Subject: accessible twitter client for the IPhone? In-Reply-To: <8B4F1B51-AF66-412C-8206-E3E03113C178@mac-access.net> References: <8B4F1B51-AF66-412C-8206-E3E03113C178@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I like tweetlist. it is a paid app but it is well worthit. On Feb 7, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > Hello listers, > > Well, it's all in the subject line: is there any accessible twitter client for the Iphone? If there is more than one, which is the most accessible? > > thanks for any help, have a good one! > > Lyn & Twinny > > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From phonerossy at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 08:49:20 2011 From: phonerossy at gmail.com (rossy) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:49:20 +0100 Subject: Opening and closing messages in mail using gestures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C4B4534-3D72-42A4-BEBF-DFD9FF44B6EA@gmail.com> hi all , it works great . best tip that i have seen on the track pad . thank you . rossy Il giorno 07/feb/2011, alle ore 23.03, Simon Cavendish ha scritto: > Hello, > > Just in case somebody might find it useful - and prompted by Will's query some time ago regarding how to use gestures to open and close a message in Mail - I've just discovered the following solution. > > 1. First of all, while your Voiceover cursor is in the mailbox list, you can easily jump to the message list of the mailbox currently highlighted by putting one finger on the trackpad and then pressing control button. You will be taken to the relevant message list and will be interacting with it automatically. (You can go back to the list of mailboxes by repeating the same gesture) > > 2. Flick to the right or left to move along a row, or up an down a column and once you are on the message you wish to read, press the control button and then press and hold for a second or two the trackpad. You will by so doing activate the menu wehre you can flick up and down through the familiar choices of "open", "move", "mark" "delete", etc. > > 3. Once you are on the open button, double-tap to activate. Your message will open. > > Now you can interact with the content of the message by flicking with two fingers to the right From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Feb 8 13:21:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:21:24 +0000 Subject: is this true about Lion? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Colin I will top post here. I have no knowledge but I would just say be careful what rumours you listen too. Apple never releases information like this in advance, for this very reason. They don't want this sort of speculation. I personally very much doubt that they would ever remove keyboard access. It would be against everything they have developed so far with VoicerOver. Lynne On 7 Feb 2011, at 22:03, Colin M wrote: > Hi all! > A friend of mine said that heard that Lion when it comes out will be more like using the I pad, I phone and I touch! > So if this is right those of you who have Imac's might have to get a magic track pad! > And apparently they are getting rid of spotlite as well! > Anyone got more knowledge of this [ do I have to get a mtrackpad! ] well I was thinking of doing so anyway! :] > Any thoughts! > All the best! > Colin > Qapla! > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Tue Feb 8 13:34:18 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 03:34:18 -1000 Subject: Opening and closing messages in mail using gestures In-Reply-To: <8C4B4534-3D72-42A4-BEBF-DFD9FF44B6EA@gmail.com> References: <8C4B4534-3D72-42A4-BEBF-DFD9FF44B6EA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Nice write up, Simon. This is actually the sort of thing that would be good to post under a VoiceOver tips and tricks section web page. Cheers, Esther On Feb 7, 2011, at 22:49, rossy wrote: > hi all , > it works great . > best tip that i have seen on the track pad . > thank you . > rossy > > Il giorno 07/feb/2011, alle ore 23.03, Simon Cavendish ha scritto: > >> Hello, >> >> Just in case somebody might find it useful - and prompted by Will's query some time ago regarding how to use gestures to open and close a message in Mail - I've just discovered the following solution. >> >> 1. First of all, while your Voiceover cursor is in the mailbox list, you can easily jump to the message list of the mailbox currently highlighted by putting one finger on the trackpad and then pressing control button. You will be taken to the relevant message list and will be interacting with it automatically. (You can go back to the list of mailboxes by repeating the same gesture) >> >> 2. Flick to the right or left to move along a row, or up an down a column and once you are on the message you wish to read, press the control button and then press and hold for a second or two the trackpad. You will by so doing activate the menu wehre you can flick up and down through the familiar choices of "open", "move", "mark" "delete", etc. >> >> 3. Once you are on the open button, double-tap to activate. Your message will open. >> >> Now you can interact with the content of the message by flicking with two fingers to the right > _______________________________________________ From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 15:55:21 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 07:55:21 -0800 Subject: Opening and closing messages in mail using gestures In-Reply-To: <8C4B4534-3D72-42A4-BEBF-DFD9FF44B6EA@gmail.com> References: <8C4B4534-3D72-42A4-BEBF-DFD9FF44B6EA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0A3EA863-C3A6-4AE3-BE28-8A9EB725CB8B@gmail.com> Hmm I could never get the control tap to work but maybe I was not doing it right. ah well I'll keep trying. Take care all. S On Feb 8, 2011, at 12:49 AM, rossy wrote: > hi all , > it works great . > best tip that i have seen on the track pad . > thank you . > rossy > > Il giorno 07/feb/2011, alle ore 23.03, Simon Cavendish ha scritto: > >> Hello, >> >> Just in case somebody might find it useful - and prompted by Will's query some time ago regarding how to use gestures to open and close a message in Mail - I've just discovered the following solution. >> >> 1. First of all, while your Voiceover cursor is in the mailbox list, you can easily jump to the message list of the mailbox currently highlighted by putting one finger on the trackpad and then pressing control button. You will be taken to the relevant message list and will be interacting with it automatically. (You can go back to the list of mailboxes by repeating the same gesture) >> >> 2. Flick to the right or left to move along a row, or up an down a column and once you are on the message you wish to read, press the control button and then press and hold for a second or two the trackpad. You will by so doing activate the menu wehre you can flick up and down through the familiar choices of "open", "move", "mark" "delete", etc. >> >> 3. Once you are on the open button, double-tap to activate. Your message will open. >> >> Now you can interact with the content of the message by flicking with two fingers to the right > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 15:56:24 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 07:56:24 -0800 Subject: is this true about Lion? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5D2C4716-D934-42A1-B667-6030839D7D39@gmail.com> I also hear that they are planing on making all macs like that but of corse with keyboard access. imagine a IMac with touch screen capability? On Feb 8, 2011, at 5:21 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Colin > > I will top post here. I have no knowledge but I would just say be careful what rumours you listen too. Apple never releases information like this in advance, for this very reason. They don't want this sort of speculation. > > I personally very much doubt that they would ever remove keyboard access. It would be against everything they have developed so far with VoicerOver. > > Lynne > > On 7 Feb 2011, at 22:03, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi all! >> A friend of mine said that heard that Lion when it comes out will be more like using the I pad, I phone and I touch! >> So if this is right those of you who have Imac's might have to get a magic track pad! >> And apparently they are getting rid of spotlite as well! >> Anyone got more knowledge of this [ do I have to get a mtrackpad! ] well I was thinking of doing so anyway! :] >> Any thoughts! >> All the best! >> Colin >> Qapla! >> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Feb 8 17:07:17 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:07:17 +0000 Subject: is this true about Lion? In-Reply-To: <5D2C4716-D934-42A1-B667-6030839D7D39@gmail.com> References: <5D2C4716-D934-42A1-B667-6030839D7D39@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Sarah On 8 Feb 2011, at 15:56, Sarah Alawami wrote: > ? I also hear that they are planing on making all macs like that but of corse with keyboard access. imagine a IMac with touch screen capability? I hear that the Japanese are planning to send a manned space craft to Mars! I hear that the Dutch are planning to build an under-sea tunnel between Europe and the USA! I hear that the French are planning to adopt English as their national language! :) No, just joking! But you get the point. Apple never ever releases its plans to the speculators in advance of its release. And it only dangles the carrot when it feels the times is right to do so. They have already given us a brief glimpse of Lion; and I don't remember seeing anything about keyboard access removal. I really really wouldn't be too worried if I were you. I honestly can't see Apple making such radical changes as removing keyboard access, and I'll tell you why. Apple has spent a lot of money and time on accessibility in Mac OSX. Not to mention adding keyboard access to iOS. I honestly don't believe they are going to remove all that functionality again at a stroke. Why? It would break hundreds of thousands of applications. It would cause a lot of developers, (including their own project developers) to have wasted countless thousands of man-hours on developing applications which were supposed to be future-proof. Bang! They all break! I'm sorry; I just don't believe it. Maybe they will add functionality as others have suggested to make things a little more iOS-like; but I honestly think it will be an as well as, not an instead of. Lynne From simoncavendish at me.com Tue Feb 8 17:07:24 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:07:24 +0000 Subject: Opening and closing messages in mail using gestures In-Reply-To: <0A3EA863-C3A6-4AE3-BE28-8A9EB725CB8B@gmail.com> References: <8C4B4534-3D72-42A4-BEBF-DFD9FF44B6EA@gmail.com> <0A3EA863-C3A6-4AE3-BE28-8A9EB725CB8B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Sarah, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hmm I could never get the control tap to work but maybe I was not doing it right. Sarah, I think you are talking about activating the contextual menu for the message you wish to open. It is not control+tap but you hold down the control key and then while holding the control down, you press the actual trackpad down and release it while still holding the control key down. Then you should hear the familiar sound of the menu being activated. You can then flick up and down to make your choices, or move your finger along the trackpad to home in somewhat on the choice you like - hte list is rather long - and then flick up and down to get the required choice and tap twice to activate. It took me some time to work out this movement of depressing the control, holding it down and clicking the trackpad. Remember, you are still holding down the control while you release the trackpad. Hope this will help. Simon From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 17:31:08 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:31:08 +0100 Subject: is this true about Lion? In-Reply-To: References: <5D2C4716-D934-42A1-B667-6030839D7D39@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, I completely agree with you. Not only would removing keyboard functionality be completely counter-productive, but one of Apple's strongpoints have always been to provide versatility in all of its products. I did read some spark about iMacs possibly getting something similar to touchscreens, but not exactly touchscreens at the same time. I wasn't terribly interested, though, so I skipped it. I never believe in rumors unless there is definite proof, say, something in Mac OS X which hints at the invention which is usually hardcoded into the software. If we can't find it, then I don't pay attention to it. I prefer hard proof and evidence, as opposed to all these rumors that are so vastly different if you compare them. Developers don't have a preview of Lion just yet, and I think we'll have to wait a little while longer for that. But when we do, I'm sure plenty of fish are going to leak all the new tips and tricks, as well as say what's next. Part of me always did wonder what the point is of a non-disclosure agreement, since a lot of people seem to be happy to break that agreement. That's an entirely different road, though, but that doesn't mean I'm pleased by it. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 17:40:32 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:40:32 -0800 Subject: is this true about Lion? In-Reply-To: References: <5D2C4716-D934-42A1-B667-6030839D7D39@gmail.com> Message-ID: <439A3466-E8F2-4F98-A5B1-BBBAC95F2A95@gmail.com> Oh I'm not worried. I'm actually excited. Imagine this. Draw a graph or something or edit a wave form all wiht the draw of the finger and then go the keyboard and finish your mastering project from there. There are probably othe rposibilities With the haptic technology you would be able to feel a molicule on a large imac touch screen and change it wiht the ktyboard by typing in formulas. Oh what fun chem class would be again! On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > On 8 Feb 2011, at 15:56, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> ? I also hear that they are planing on making all macs like that but of corse with keyboard access. imagine a IMac with touch screen capability? > > I hear that the Japanese are planning to send a manned space craft to Mars! I hear that the Dutch are planning to build an under-sea tunnel between Europe and the USA! I hear that the French are planning to adopt English as their national language! :) > > No, just joking! But you get the point. Apple never ever releases its plans to the speculators in advance of its release. And it only dangles the carrot when it feels the times is right to do so. > > They have already given us a brief glimpse of Lion; and I don't remember seeing anything about keyboard access removal. > > I really really wouldn't be too worried if I were you. I honestly can't see Apple making such radical changes as removing keyboard access, and I'll tell you why. > > Apple has spent a lot of money and time on accessibility in Mac OSX. Not to mention adding keyboard access to iOS. I honestly don't believe they are going to remove all that functionality again at a stroke. Why? It would break hundreds of thousands of applications. It would cause a lot of developers, (including their own project developers) to have wasted countless thousands of man-hours on developing applications which were supposed to be future-proof. Bang! They all break! > > I'm sorry; I just don't believe it. Maybe they will add functionality as others have suggested to make things a little more iOS-like; but I honestly think it will be an as well as, not an instead of. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 17:41:41 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:41:41 -0800 Subject: Opening and closing messages in mail using gestures In-Reply-To: References: <8C4B4534-3D72-42A4-BEBF-DFD9FF44B6EA@gmail.com> <0A3EA863-C3A6-4AE3-BE28-8A9EB725CB8B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7394C2D3-51A9-4702-BEFD-CAB1FC34CDA9@gmail.com> No I meant the control tap to jump to the next element. On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Dear Sarah, > > > Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hmm I could never get the control tap to work but maybe I was not doing it right. > > Sarah, I think you are talking about activating the contextual menu for the message you wish to open. It is not control+tap but you hold down the control key and then while holding the control down, you press the actual trackpad down and release it while still holding the control key down. Then you should hear the familiar sound of the menu being activated. You can then flick up and down to make your choices, or move your finger along the trackpad to home in somewhat on the choice you like - hte list is rather long - and then flick up and down to get the required choice and tap twice to activate. It took me some time to work out this movement of depressing the control, holding it down and clicking the trackpad. Remember, you are still holding down the control while you release the trackpad. > > Hope this will help. > > Simon > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Feb 8 18:38:24 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:38:24 +0100 Subject: An idea about Keynote Message-ID: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> Hello everyone, I've been doing some work with Keynote in the last few days. There doesn't seem to be any way of hearing the content of a slide while playing the presentation, so I had an idea. This requires the use of GhostReader, because it runs happily in the background. Would it be practical to create a text file containing the text from all the slides, each text preceded by "Slide (number)"? The hotkeys for GhostReader work wherever you are, so it would be possible to Play and Pause GhostReader without leaving KeyNote. Has anyone any better ideas? Cheers, Anne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Feb 8 18:46:40 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:46:40 -0000 Subject: An idea about Keynote In-Reply-To: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> References: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> Anne, That's ingenious. My own approach was very longwinded: 1. generate PDF from keynote; 2. Read aloud and generate mp3 for each slide; 3. Import to iTunes; 4. copy to iPhone. 5. Keep iPhone hidden in pocket during talk and pretend to be memory man. Note to self, I must stop writing like Bridget Jones!!! I haven't played with Ghost Reader is it any good? Cheers, D?nal -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: 08 February 2011 18:38 To: Mac iOS Accessibility OSX & Subject: An idea about Keynote Hello everyone, I've been doing some work with Keynote in the last few days. There doesn't seem to be any way of hearing the content of a slide while playing the presentation, so I had an idea. This requires the use of GhostReader, because it runs happily in the background. Would it be practical to create a text file containing the text from all the slides, each text preceded by "Slide (number)"? The hotkeys for GhostReader work wherever you are, so it would be possible to Play and Pause GhostReader without leaving KeyNote. Has anyone any better ideas? Cheers, Anne _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Feb 8 18:57:39 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:57:39 +0100 Subject: An idea about Keynote In-Reply-To: <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> References: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello D?nal, Unfortunately, I've just tried out my idea and Keynote blocks all key presses other than those necessary for itself! Many expletives deleted! I'm having other ideas. If they work, I'll shout them from the rooftops. Cheers, Anne On 8 Feb 2011, at 19:46, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Anne, > > That's ingenious. My own approach was very longwinded: > > 1. generate PDF from keynote; > 2. Read aloud and generate mp3 for each slide; > 3. Import to iTunes; > 4. copy to iPhone. > 5. Keep iPhone hidden in pocket during talk and pretend to be memory man. > > Note to self, I must stop writing like Bridget Jones!!! > > I haven't played with Ghost Reader is it any good? > > Cheers, > > D?nal > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson > Sent: 08 February 2011 18:38 > To: Mac iOS Accessibility OSX & > Subject: An idea about Keynote > > Hello everyone, > > I've been doing some work with Keynote in the last few days. There doesn't > seem to be any way of hearing the content of a slide while playing the > presentation, so I had an idea. > > This requires the use of GhostReader, because it runs happily in the > background. > > Would it be practical to create a text file containing the text from all the > slides, each text preceded by "Slide (number)"? > > The hotkeys for GhostReader work wherever you are, so it would be possible > to Play and Pause GhostReader without leaving KeyNote. > > Has anyone any better ideas? > > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Tue Feb 8 19:03:59 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:03:59 +0000 Subject: a possible i-phone problem Message-ID: <4d519322.5925e30a.0212.356a@mx.google.com> i am wondering if i have a possible problem with my i-phone which i thought i might have resolved by upgrading the firmware to the latest ios. i was having a problem where i had my phone near my ear when i got my phone and the problem was it would switch between the ear speaker for the phone and the actual speaker when you take it away from your ear when not using the headphones that come with the phone. i thought that the upgrade would have resolved this but i still get this problem during calls when i hear the name of the person i am calling when it is close to my ear and i still get this problem of it doing this switching between the phone earpiece and the speaker. has anyone else had this problem even with the phone directly touching their ear and if so is there any setting which might be causing this issue? it is like i am talking to someone and listening through the phone earpiece and it will switch so some of the conversation with my caller can be heard through the speaker which is used when it is hands free and this switching can occur in the space of a few seconds. it not only affects me but it also possibly puzzles the caller at the other end. i have the cut out of my i-phone case pressed right up against my ear to try and prevent this automatic switching. as far as i know it doesn't appear to do it as much with the previous version but it still appears to do it. From abreier at kc.rr.com Tue Feb 8 19:08:39 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:08:39 -0600 Subject: a possible i-phone problem References: <4d519322.5925e30a.0212.356a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: One thing you can do right away, is to triple tap the him to turn off vo while on a call. But I would also go into an apple store and let them see haw bad it is. I had a friend that did that and they exchanged it for him. He talked the sales guy into turning on vo on his phone and try it on his phone and my friends phone was acting worse that the sales guys phone, so they traded him one out. It make the problem a lot better for my friend. Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael weaver" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 1:03 PM Subject: a possible i-phone problem >i am wondering if i have a possible problem with my i-phone which i thought >i might have resolved by upgrading the firmware to the latest ios. > i was having a problem where i had my phone near my ear when i got my > phone and the problem was it would switch between the ear speaker for the > phone and the actual speaker when you take it away from your ear when not > using the headphones that come with the phone. > i thought that the upgrade would have resolved this but i still get this > problem during calls when i hear the name of the person i am calling when > it is close to my ear and i still get this problem of it doing this > switching between the phone earpiece and the speaker. > has anyone else had this problem even with the phone directly touching > their ear and if so is there any setting which might be causing this > issue? > it is like i am talking to someone and listening through the phone > earpiece and it will switch so some of the conversation with my caller can > be heard through the speaker which is used when it is hands free and this > switching can occur in the space of a few seconds. > it not only affects me but it also possibly puzzles the caller at the > other end. > i have the cut out of my i-phone case pressed right up against my ear to > try and prevent this automatic switching. > as far as i know it doesn't appear to do it as much with the previous > version but it still appears to do it. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From helianthe at mac-access.net Tue Feb 8 19:34:17 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 20:34:17 +0100 Subject: a possible i-phone problem In-Reply-To: <4d519322.5925e30a.0212.356a@mx.google.com> References: <4d519322.5925e30a.0212.356a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <8207F1E3-0BD0-47C0-B2F3-D836AD7FE1DE@mac-access.net> I sometimes experience the same issue so any advise would be more than welcome as well. I agree that it can be rather annoying definitely. Lyn & Twinny On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:03 PM, michael weaver wrote: > i am wondering if i have a possible problem with my i-phone which i thought i might have resolved by upgrading the firmware to the latest ios. > i was having a problem where i had my phone near my ear when i got my phone and the problem was it would switch between the ear speaker for the phone and the actual speaker when you take it away from your ear when not using the headphones that come with the phone. > i thought that the upgrade would have resolved this but i still get this problem during calls when i hear the name of the person i am calling when it is close to my ear and i still get this problem of it doing this switching between the phone earpiece and the speaker. > has anyone else had this problem even with the phone directly touching their ear and if so is there any setting which might be causing this issue? > it is like i am talking to someone and listening through the phone earpiece and it will switch so some of the conversation with my caller can be heard through the speaker which is used when it is hands free and this switching can occur in the space of a few seconds. > it not only affects me but it also possibly puzzles the caller at the other end. > i have the cut out of my i-phone case pressed right up against my ear to try and prevent this automatic switching. > as far as i know it doesn't appear to do it as much with the previous version but it still appears to do it. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Feb 8 20:07:02 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 20:07:02 +0000 Subject: is this true about Lion? In-Reply-To: <5D2C4716-D934-42A1-B667-6030839D7D39@gmail.com> References: <5D2C4716-D934-42A1-B667-6030839D7D39@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1BAD2ADE-A581-4188-A0EC-C1E4A73B5F2A@mac-access.net> I seem to remember the idea of a touch screen IMac being dismissed by Apple and SJ as great for demos but impractical for everyday use.. On 8 Feb 2011, at 15:56, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I also hear that they are planing on making all macs like that but of corse with keyboard access. imagine a IMac with touch screen capability? > On Feb 8, 2011, at 5:21 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Colin >> >> I will top post here. I have no knowledge but I would just say be careful what rumours you listen too. Apple never releases information like this in advance, for this very reason. They don't want this sort of speculation. >> >> I personally very much doubt that they would ever remove keyboard access. It would be against everything they have developed so far with VoicerOver. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 7 Feb 2011, at 22:03, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> A friend of mine said that heard that Lion when it comes out will be more like using the I pad, I phone and I touch! >>> So if this is right those of you who have Imac's might have to get a magic track pad! >>> And apparently they are getting rid of spotlite as well! >>> Anyone got more knowledge of this [ do I have to get a mtrackpad! ] well I was thinking of doing so anyway! :] >>> Any thoughts! >>> All the best! >>> Colin >>> Qapla! >>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simoncavendish at me.com Tue Feb 8 21:01:39 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 21:01:39 +0000 Subject: Opening and closing messages in mail using gestures In-Reply-To: <7394C2D3-51A9-4702-BEFD-CAB1FC34CDA9@gmail.com> References: <8C4B4534-3D72-42A4-BEBF-DFD9FF44B6EA@gmail.com> <0A3EA863-C3A6-4AE3-BE28-8A9EB725CB8B@gmail.com> <7394C2D3-51A9-4702-BEFD-CAB1FC34CDA9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sarah, You put your finger firrst on the trackpad and then tap the control key to jump to the message list and the same to go back to the mailbox list. Simon On 8 Feb 2011, at 17:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No I meant the control tap to jump to the next element. > On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> Dear Sarah, >> >> >> Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Hmm I could never get the control tap to work but maybe I was not doing it right. >> >> Sarah, I think you are talking about activating the contextual menu for the message you wish to open. It is not control+tap but you hold down the control key and then while holding the control down, you press the actual trackpad down and release it while still holding the control key down. Then you should hear the familiar sound of the menu being activated. You can then flick up and down to make your choices, or move your finger along the trackpad to home in somewhat on the choice you like - hte list is rather long - and then flick up and down to get the required choice and tap twice to activate. It took me some time to work out this movement of depressing the control, holding it down and clicking the trackpad. Remember, you are still holding down the control while you release the trackpad. >> >> Hope this will help. >> >> Simon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 21:58:02 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:58:02 -0800 Subject: Opening and closing messages in mail using gestures In-Reply-To: References: <8C4B4534-3D72-42A4-BEBF-DFD9FF44B6EA@gmail.com> <0A3EA863-C3A6-4AE3-BE28-8A9EB725CB8B@gmail.com> <7394C2D3-51A9-4702-BEFD-CAB1FC34CDA9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1A201AD0-8F9C-4549-B3D2-A4EEBE4A9CFE@gmail.com> Hmm I coild only go one way. I tried it in itunes. but wiht the vo j I could go both ways.. Odd? I'll keep ;playing with it. On Feb 8, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Sarah, You put your finger firrst on the trackpad and then tap the control key to jump to the message list and the same to go back to the mailbox list. > > Simon > On 8 Feb 2011, at 17:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No I meant the control tap to jump to the next element. >> On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: >> >>> Dear Sarah, >>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Hmm I could never get the control tap to work but maybe I was not doing it right. >>> >>> Sarah, I think you are talking about activating the contextual menu for the message you wish to open. It is not control+tap but you hold down the control key and then while holding the control down, you press the actual trackpad down and release it while still holding the control key down. Then you should hear the familiar sound of the menu being activated. You can then flick up and down to make your choices, or move your finger along the trackpad to home in somewhat on the choice you like - hte list is rather long - and then flick up and down to get the required choice and tap twice to activate. It took me some time to work out this movement of depressing the control, holding it down and clicking the trackpad. Remember, you are still holding down the control while you release the trackpad. >>> >>> Hope this will help. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 21:58:51 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:58:51 -0800 Subject: a possible i-phone problem In-Reply-To: <4d519322.5925e30a.0212.356a@mx.google.com> References: <4d519322.5925e30a.0212.356a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <0977538D-14AE-4719-9C8A-DEC14ECC2FD5@gmail.com> No issues here at all. Maybe try reseting the phone to see if that helps? don't restore it just do a hard reset of the thing. S On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:03 AM, michael weaver wrote: > i am wondering if i have a possible problem with my i-phone which i thought i might have resolved by upgrading the firmware to the latest ios. > i was having a problem where i had my phone near my ear when i got my phone and the problem was it would switch between the ear speaker for the phone and the actual speaker when you take it away from your ear when not using the headphones that come with the phone. > i thought that the upgrade would have resolved this but i still get this problem during calls when i hear the name of the person i am calling when it is close to my ear and i still get this problem of it doing this switching between the phone earpiece and the speaker. > has anyone else had this problem even with the phone directly touching their ear and if so is there any setting which might be causing this issue? > it is like i am talking to someone and listening through the phone earpiece and it will switch so some of the conversation with my caller can be heard through the speaker which is used when it is hands free and this switching can occur in the space of a few seconds. > it not only affects me but it also possibly puzzles the caller at the other end. > i have the cut out of my i-phone case pressed right up against my ear to try and prevent this automatic switching. > as far as i know it doesn't appear to do it as much with the previous version but it still appears to do it. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Feb 8 21:59:32 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:59:32 +0100 Subject: An idea about Keynote In-Reply-To: <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> References: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> Message-ID: <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> Hello again D?nal, Right, cracked it! Create a spoken track containing the text from one slide at a time including the number of the slide so that you know where you are. You can either paste the text into TextEdit and use the service item "Add to iTunes as a spoken track", or use VisioVoice or GhostReader to do the same thing. Once you've got yourself a playlist containing all the slides as tracks, go back to Keynote and show the media browser. I've created a shortcut to show and hide the media browser in Keynote. In the Media Browser, click on the Audio button, then navigate right to iLife media groups table and interact with it. Type the first letters of the playlist you created to go straight to it instead of ploughing your way through the whole iTunes sources table. Stop interacting and navigate right to the playlist. It will be easiest to use if you name each track by its slide number. Select the first audio file and copy it (Cmd-C). Switch windows (Cmd-Accent) and make sure that the correct slide is selected. Navigate to the Layout area and paste the sound file (Cmd-V). Do this for all the slides. Hide the Media Browser. Save your work. Now play your presentation (Cmd-Opt-p). Each time you press Return, the next slide will be shown and you'll hear the text. Cheers, Anne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Feb 8 22:18:49 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:18:49 +0000 Subject: An idea about Keynote In-Reply-To: <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> References: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <7C31C84B-3A72-4D8E-BEBC-6233AD0F73A2@computing.dcu.ie> And that is why I love this list! Anne that is truly superb, thanks for sharing. In effect what you are suggesting is adding an audio track to each slide. Like all great ideas, its genius lies in its simplicity. It would never have occurred to me to do that. Once again thank you very much, D?nal On 8 Feb 2011, at 21:59, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello again D?nal, > > Right, cracked it! > > Create a spoken track containing the text from one slide at a time including the number of the slide so that you know where you are. You can either paste the text into TextEdit and use the service item "Add to iTunes as a spoken track", or use VisioVoice or GhostReader to do the same thing. > > Once you've got yourself a playlist containing all the slides as tracks, go back to Keynote and show the media browser. I've created a shortcut to show and hide the media browser in Keynote. > > In the Media Browser, click on the Audio button, then navigate right to iLife media groups table and interact with it. > > Type the first letters of the playlist you created to go straight to it instead of ploughing your way through the whole iTunes sources table. > > Stop interacting and navigate right to the playlist. It will be easiest to use if you name each track by its slide number. > > Select the first audio file and copy it (Cmd-C). > > Switch windows (Cmd-Accent) and make sure that the correct slide is selected. > > Navigate to the Layout area and paste the sound file (Cmd-V). > > Do this for all the slides. > > Hide the Media Browser. Save your work. > > Now play your presentation (Cmd-Opt-p). > > Each time you press Return, the next slide will be shown and you'll hear the text. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From simoncavendish at me.com Tue Feb 8 22:24:21 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 22:24:21 +0000 Subject: An idea about Keynote In-Reply-To: <7C31C84B-3A72-4D8E-BEBC-6233AD0F73A2@computing.dcu.ie> References: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> <7C31C84B-3A72-4D8E-BEBC-6233AD0F73A2@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Anne, it is just great. I do not understandd it entirely as I've never tried Keynote but somehow I feel the solution is superb, and I just have to add spontaneously to Donal's response - superb! The support we get from each other on the list is just so heartening. Simon On 8 Feb 2011, at 22:18, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > And that is why I love this list! Anne that is truly superb, thanks for sharing. In effect what you are suggesting is adding an audio track to each slide. Like all great ideas, its genius lies in its simplicity. It would never have occurred to me to do that. > > Once again thank you very much, > > D?nal > On 8 Feb 2011, at 21:59, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello again D?nal, >> >> Right, cracked it! >> >> Create a spoken track containing the text from one slide at a time including the number of the slide so that you know where you are. You can either paste the text into TextEdit and use the service item "Add to iTunes as a spoken track", or use VisioVoice or GhostReader to do the same thing. >> >> Once you've got yourself a playlist containing all the slides as tracks, go back to Keynote and show the media browser. I've created a shortcut to show and hide the media browser in Keynote. >> >> In the Media Browser, click on the Audio button, then navigate right to iLife media groups table and interact with it. >> >> Type the first letters of the playlist you created to go straight to it instead of ploughing your way through the whole iTunes sources table. >> >> Stop interacting and navigate right to the playlist. It will be easiest to use if you name each track by its slide number. >> >> Select the first audio file and copy it (Cmd-C). >> >> Switch windows (Cmd-Accent) and make sure that the correct slide is selected. >> >> Navigate to the Layout area and paste the sound file (Cmd-V). >> >> Do this for all the slides. >> >> Hide the Media Browser. Save your work. >> >> Now play your presentation (Cmd-Opt-p). >> >> Each time you press Return, the next slide will be shown and you'll hear the text. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Feb 8 22:27:57 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:27:57 +0000 Subject: An idea about Keynote In-Reply-To: <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> References: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <8CE866C9-3DF5-44C2-8194-F6EE86BBA8B6@computing.dcu.ie> Anne just one thing, I don't have the service in Textedit to add to iTunes? Do I need to create this? Till now I just used AudioHijackPro to generate the sound files. THis works fine, but I'm curious to understand your approach. Thanks, D?nal On 8 Feb 2011, at 21:59, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello again D?nal, > > Right, cracked it! > > Create a spoken track containing the text from one slide at a time including the number of the slide so that you know where you are. You can either paste the text into TextEdit and use the service item "Add to iTunes as a spoken track", or use VisioVoice or GhostReader to do the same thing. > > Once you've got yourself a playlist containing all the slides as tracks, go back to Keynote and show the media browser. I've created a shortcut to show and hide the media browser in Keynote. > > In the Media Browser, click on the Audio button, then navigate right to iLife media groups table and interact with it. > > Type the first letters of the playlist you created to go straight to it instead of ploughing your way through the whole iTunes sources table. > > Stop interacting and navigate right to the playlist. It will be easiest to use if you name each track by its slide number. > > Select the first audio file and copy it (Cmd-C). > > Switch windows (Cmd-Accent) and make sure that the correct slide is selected. > > Navigate to the Layout area and paste the sound file (Cmd-V). > > Do this for all the slides. > > Hide the Media Browser. Save your work. > > Now play your presentation (Cmd-Opt-p). > > Each time you press Return, the next slide will be shown and you'll hear the text. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Feb 8 22:33:42 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:33:42 +0000 Subject: possibly off topic: M.Sc. projects. Message-ID: I'm going to apologise to the list mods here, because I might be dragging the list off-topic. My evening has been spent trying to dream up ideas for projects for M.Sc. students. The format is that they undertake what I'll describe as a mini dissertation. It involves doing some research, implementing software, evaluating it and writing a paper. So people, now's your chance. Anyone who would like to suggest an idea feel free. The one stippulation is that it has to be Mac or IOS based. (see Gordon/Lynne, I'm not really that far off topic am I? *smile* This is an opportunity to maybe start a new application, or write a plugin for an existing one. I'd also say that students being students, this could come to nothing in the end and we might never hear anything more about it. However, at the very least it gets a discussion going, and who knows it might get a few of us on list talking about interesting ideas on which we could collaborate. Thanks much, ?D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Feb 8 22:51:47 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:51:47 +0000 Subject: Ignore my previous mail Re: An idea about Keynote In-Reply-To: <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> References: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: I found the answer to the query. Cheers, D?nal On 8 Feb 2011, at 21:59, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello again D?nal, > > Right, cracked it! > > Create a spoken track containing the text from one slide at a time including the number of the slide so that you know where you are. You can either paste the text into TextEdit and use the service item "Add to iTunes as a spoken track", or use VisioVoice or GhostReader to do the same thing. > > Once you've got yourself a playlist containing all the slides as tracks, go back to Keynote and show the media browser. I've created a shortcut to show and hide the media browser in Keynote. > > In the Media Browser, click on the Audio button, then navigate right to iLife media groups table and interact with it. > > Type the first letters of the playlist you created to go straight to it instead of ploughing your way through the whole iTunes sources table. > > Stop interacting and navigate right to the playlist. It will be easiest to use if you name each track by its slide number. > > Select the first audio file and copy it (Cmd-C). > > Switch windows (Cmd-Accent) and make sure that the correct slide is selected. > > Navigate to the Layout area and paste the sound file (Cmd-V). > > Do this for all the slides. > > Hide the Media Browser. Save your work. > > Now play your presentation (Cmd-Opt-p). > > Each time you press Return, the next slide will be shown and you'll hear the text. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Tue Feb 8 23:34:12 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:34:12 +0000 Subject: bootcamp bug Message-ID: <90D7ED37-E314-473E-A885-1BE6F052215C@mac-access.org.uk> hi has anyone else noted that with bootcamp, when you are asked to put in a blank cd to burn the support software the program not seeing the disc? From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Tue Feb 8 23:47:04 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:47:04 +0000 Subject: too busy Message-ID: hi all, in disc utility as well voiceover seems way to busy when opening an image file, Apple really need to I think sort this out, as it makes using apps impractical From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Feb 8 23:49:50 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:49:50 +0000 Subject: too busy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What exactly is the problem for you when opening an image file? Come n to Skype and we'll see if we can sort it out for you. TC :) J On 8 Feb 2011, at 23:47, William Lomas wrote: > hi all, in disc utility as well voiceover seems way to busy when opening an image file, Apple really need to I think sort this out, as it makes using apps impractical > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Tue Feb 8 23:51:40 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:51:40 +0000 Subject: bootcamp drivers Message-ID: <553D441F-648B-4BA4-BE8F-35C22B9B81B1@mac-access.org.uk> Hi all are the bootcamp drivers on the snowleopard dvd? I assume therefore if they are, that I don't need to burn the software as instructed in the bootcamp asssistant? From moriond at mac.com Tue Feb 8 23:55:59 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 13:55:59 -1000 Subject: An idea about Keynote In-Reply-To: <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> References: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <265C66CF-70B5-4EE7-B2D1-C399368060D8@mac.com> Hi Anne and Others, I'm late coming to this thread, but I wonder whether there's also a way to adapt this idea to Keynote presentations on the iPad, so you can also get some spoken track information out. The situation is that the iPad will support a VGA out connector from the dock connector, and Keynote presentations and slideshows will play and project, as will Netflix and Youtube movies. A few of the PDF reader apps are supposed to also project on the video out. I'll have to do some checking to find out whether there are VoiceOver accessible apps that will support this. That way there would be a way to give a presentation directly from the iPad -- either as Keynote, or as PDFs. I'll have to check whether slideshow mode can support an audio track. Great ideas, all! Cheers, Esther On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:59, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello again D?nal, > > Right, cracked it! > > Create a spoken track containing the text from one slide at a time including the number of the slide so that you know where you are. You can either paste the text into TextEdit and use the service item "Add to iTunes as a spoken track", or use VisioVoice or GhostReader to do the same thing. > > Once you've got yourself a playlist containing all the slides as tracks, go back to Keynote and show the media browser. I've created a shortcut to show and hide the media browser in Keynote. > > In the Media Browser, click on the Audio button, then navigate right to iLife media groups table and interact with it. > > Type the first letters of the playlist you created to go straight to it instead of ploughing your way through the whole iTunes sources table. > > Stop interacting and navigate right to the playlist. It will be easiest to use if you name each track by its slide number. > > Select the first audio file and copy it (Cmd-C). > > Switch windows (Cmd-Accent) and make sure that the correct slide is selected. > > Navigate to the Layout area and paste the sound file (Cmd-V). > > Do this for all the slides. > > Hide the Media Browser. Save your work. > > Now play your presentation (Cmd-Opt-p). > > Each time you press Return, the next slide will be shown and you'll hear the text. > > Cheers, > > Anne > From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 9 00:14:45 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 14:14:45 -1000 Subject: An idea about Keynote In-Reply-To: <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> References: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi again, To add to Anne's comments about using the service item "Add to iTunes as a spoken track" to generate a spoken track cue for Keynote slides by number and content, if you want to set the speaking rate of your TextEdit file, use the embedded command for rate at the beginning of the TextEdit file: "[[rate 300]]" That's two left brackets, followed by the word "rate", followed by a space, followed by the number for the rate (e.g. "300"), followed by two right brackets. You can test out the rate you want by pasting in a test phrase preceded by this rate into terminal using the "say" command enclosed in quotations. For example, copy and paste the following line into terminal, and press return to test the speaking rate of 300: say "[[rate 300]]This is a test sentence spoken at rate 300." Do the same for a sentence at rate 240: say "[[rate 240]]This is a test sentence spoken at rate 240." HTH. Earlier today, for an off-list query, I sent Travis a reference to the Apple Developer's document that gives all the embedded speech commands. For anyone interested in reading this, the source document URL is: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/SpeechSynthesisProgrammingGuide/index.html Embedded commands are described in the section titled "Techniques for Customizing Synthesized Speech" - > "Use Embedded Speech Commands to Fine-Tune Spoken Output. Cheers, Esther From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Wed Feb 9 00:23:29 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:23:29 +0000 Subject: to many redirects? Message-ID: hi all, I am trying to register with the fusion site, but safari can't open the page as to many redirects. anyone else had this at all? Thanks, WIll From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 01:50:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:50:18 -0800 Subject: An idea about Keynote In-Reply-To: References: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: But how do you change the voice. I don't want alex. lol! On Feb 8, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi again, > > To add to Anne's comments about using the service item "Add to iTunes as a spoken track" to generate a spoken track cue for Keynote slides by number and content, if you want to set the speaking rate of your TextEdit file, use the embedded command for rate at the beginning of the TextEdit file: > > "[[rate 300]]" > > That's two left brackets, followed by the word "rate", followed by a space, followed by the number for the rate (e.g. "300"), followed by two right brackets. You can test out the rate you want by pasting in a test phrase preceded by this rate into terminal using the "say" command enclosed in quotations. For example, copy and paste the following line into terminal, and press return to test the speaking rate of 300: > > say "[[rate 300]]This is a test sentence spoken at rate 300." > > Do the same for a sentence at rate 240: > > say "[[rate 240]]This is a test sentence spoken at rate 240." > > HTH. Earlier today, for an off-list query, I sent Travis a reference to the Apple Developer's document that gives all the embedded speech commands. For anyone interested in reading this, the source document URL is: > > http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/SpeechSynthesisProgrammingGuide/index.html > > Embedded commands are described in the section titled "Techniques for Customizing Synthesized Speech" - > "Use Embedded Speech Commands to Fine-Tune Spoken Output. > > Cheers, > > Esther > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 01:50:41 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:50:41 -0800 Subject: bootcamp drivers In-Reply-To: <553D441F-648B-4BA4-BE8F-35C22B9B81B1@mac-access.org.uk> References: <553D441F-648B-4BA4-BE8F-35C22B9B81B1@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <345CA9A4-5236-48EA-BF7F-324476DD2B2A@gmail.com> They should be. I skipped the step and it works fine. Take care. and if I'm wrong let me know! On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:51 PM, William Lomas wrote: > Hi all are the bootcamp drivers on the snowleopard dvd? > I assume therefore if they are, that I don't need to burn the software as instructed in the bootcamp asssistant? > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 01:51:25 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:51:25 -0800 Subject: bootcamp bug In-Reply-To: <90D7ED37-E314-473E-A885-1BE6F052215C@mac-access.org.uk> References: <90D7ED37-E314-473E-A885-1BE6F052215C@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <7AFE922D-757C-4F19-9FC3-6E2EBDAB65B4@gmail.com> Yeah I noticed that. I thought it was just me. I think the manual does say skip the step. S On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:34 PM, William Lomas wrote: > hi has anyone else noted that with bootcamp, when you are asked to put in a blank cd to burn the support software the program not seeing the disc? > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Feb 9 06:13:08 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:13:08 -0600 Subject: possibly off topic: M.Sc. projects. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7716EC5E-3087-4457-A878-3A5EEDBFD486@softcon.com> Heh, it's funny you should mention this. I was just complaining about the lack of little programs I used a lot under dos, for general science type things, and it's not htat hard to make it on osx either. I was going to try to modify code I've got here to do it, but gui interfaces always prevent me from completing such work (I really gotta get renasaiance (spelling?) working here (don't want to use prepared binaries, and compiling from scratch is proving problematic) so I can build such things. However, the two big ones I was lamenting were a periodic table, and a complete accessible full featured unit converter. I've written one in php which I use for myself on my machine here, but I'd sure like to have something I could drop on all of our macs, and let the kids use as well. But, I'm not talking a simple C/F/K converter, no, that's not my style. :) I mean one that handles kelvins, celcus, rankin, newton, farenhight, miles, nautical miles, feet, inches, kilograms, pounds, yards, hogs heads, gallons, quarts, pints, liters, mililiters, newtons, footpounds, metric tons, cubits (had to throw that one in, mine doesn't handle those actually) days, months, fortnights, decades, fathoms, spans, (hmm, I'm slipping, mine doesn't handle the last two either) and the like. Basically, a geeks unit converter, with more conversions than anyone could ever possibly want or need, but just because they're there, I want it handled. :) Periodic table should give atomic weight, isotopes, natural state, (solid, gas, liquid) electron shells, inert (y/n) and anything else I've forgotten to throw in. :) Of course, organizing it all is almost as big a challenge as building the database to begin with, but it's always fun to watch someone else work out such problems. :) And, just fyi, After we'd had that whole discussion on calculating sunrise/sunset, I started to write my own calculator, then discovered php has it built-in, all you need to do is feed it your long/lat, and it spits out the info for you (see http://thesiegelsnest.us/blog/ weather for a working encarnation), Just thought I'd let you know. :) From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Feb 9 07:02:22 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 07:02:22 +0000 Subject: to many redirects? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05E88704-E718-47B0-8071-B5BA3CDD8C0C@mac-access.net> Have you tried tricking the site into thinking that you're using another Web Browser? To do this: 1. Under the Advanced tab of Safari Preferences, you'll find a check box which says "show DEvelop menu in menu bar" 2. After you've checked this box, go to the menu bar and under the "Develop" menu you'll find an option called "User Agent". 3. Select the new WB you want to use. This doesn't always work, but it might help. Alternatively, you could try registering using the latest WebKit build HTH TC :) James On 9 Feb 2011, at 00:23, William Lomas wrote: > hi all, I am trying to register with the fusion site, but safari can't open the page as to many redirects. anyone else had this at all? > Thanks, WIll > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 07:38:46 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:38:46 +0100 Subject: bootcamp drivers In-Reply-To: <345CA9A4-5236-48EA-BF7F-324476DD2B2A@gmail.com> References: <553D441F-648B-4BA4-BE8F-35C22B9B81B1@mac-access.org.uk> <345CA9A4-5236-48EA-BF7F-324476DD2B2A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello William, When installing Bootcamp, I have not been told to burn anything but to insert my Windows DVD or CD. However, you may have to install the Bootcamp drivers. While everything will essentially work fine, it is still recommended. This ensures that all keyboard shortcuts will work, as well as installs the Bootcamp control panel to control various features, as wel as being able to use the FN keys, not to mention your display. This is particularly necessary for screen readers like, Window-Eyes, Supernova or JAWS for Windows. The Bootcamp drivers are for WIndows, not Mac OS X. These drivers will be found on your Snow Leopard DVD, and if you do not have Autorun disabled, the setup assistant will automatically launch. If you are running a 64-bit operating system, the setup assistant will not work without a slight bit of a tweek. The command will bypass Apple's restriction to stop 64-bit operating systems from installing 32-bit drivers. It can be done from the comand line. I can only remember part of the command, so that won't be of much help as I did it on Windows. it may not be necessary, though, if you can manage to go directly to Apple's website to download the Bootcamp 3.2 which supports 64-bit now. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Wed Feb 9 09:15:44 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:15:44 +0000 Subject: fusion and caps lock Message-ID: <322821AC-7327-4310-9877-839D69A1B122@mac-access.org.uk> hi all do i still need sharpkeys to get windows to work well with jaws and system access? the caps lock key on my imac is not going through to the screenreader From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Feb 9 09:50:16 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:50:16 -0000 Subject: An idea about Keynote In-Reply-To: References: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <000001cbc83e$c433ae80$4c9b0b80$@dcu.ie> Esther are you psychic? *laughing* one of my PHD students sent me a mail only yesterday looking for that document. I'd had it on an old machine but couldn't lay hands to it. Thanks a million. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: 09 February 2011 00:15 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: An idea about Keynote Hi again, To add to Anne's comments about using the service item "Add to iTunes as a spoken track" to generate a spoken track cue for Keynote slides by number and content, if you want to set the speaking rate of your TextEdit file, use the embedded command for rate at the beginning of the TextEdit file: "[[rate 300]]" That's two left brackets, followed by the word "rate", followed by a space, followed by the number for the rate (e.g. "300"), followed by two right brackets. You can test out the rate you want by pasting in a test phrase preceded by this rate into terminal using the "say" command enclosed in quotations. For example, copy and paste the following line into terminal, and press return to test the speaking rate of 300: say "[[rate 300]]This is a test sentence spoken at rate 300." Do the same for a sentence at rate 240: say "[[rate 240]]This is a test sentence spoken at rate 240." HTH. Earlier today, for an off-list query, I sent Travis a reference to the Apple Developer's document that gives all the embedded speech commands. For anyone interested in reading this, the source document URL is: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/SpeechSyn thesisProgrammingGuide/index.html Embedded commands are described in the section titled "Techniques for Customizing Synthesized Speech" - > "Use Embedded Speech Commands to Fine-Tune Spoken Output. Cheers, Esther _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Feb 9 09:53:18 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:53:18 -0000 Subject: possibly off topic: M.Sc. projects. In-Reply-To: <7716EC5E-3087-4457-A878-3A5EEDBFD486@softcon.com> References: <7716EC5E-3087-4457-A878-3A5EEDBFD486@softcon.com> Message-ID: <000901cbc83f$30f02350$92d069f0$@dcu.ie> Like it Travis. Particularly the periodic table one. Could be some very interesting data sonification (trying to avoid visualisation!) there. Both are duly noted, however I think the converter one won't be too popular. Sorry about that... -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Travis Siegel Sent: 09 February 2011 06:13 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: possibly off topic: M.Sc. projects. Heh, it's funny you should mention this. I was just complaining about the lack of little programs I used a lot under dos, for general science type things, and it's not htat hard to make it on osx either. I was going to try to modify code I've got here to do it, but gui interfaces always prevent me from completing such work (I really gotta get renasaiance (spelling?) working here (don't want to use prepared binaries, and compiling from scratch is proving problematic) so I can build such things. However, the two big ones I was lamenting were a periodic table, and a complete accessible full featured unit converter. I've written one in php which I use for myself on my machine here, but I'd sure like to have something I could drop on all of our macs, and let the kids use as well. But, I'm not talking a simple C/F/K converter, no, that's not my style. :) I mean one that handles kelvins, celcus, rankin, newton, farenhight, miles, nautical miles, feet, inches, kilograms, pounds, yards, hogs heads, gallons, quarts, pints, liters, mililiters, newtons, footpounds, metric tons, cubits (had to throw that one in, mine doesn't handle those actually) days, months, fortnights, decades, fathoms, spans, (hmm, I'm slipping, mine doesn't handle the last two either) and the like. Basically, a geeks unit converter, with more conversions than anyone could ever possibly want or need, but just because they're there, I want it handled. :) Periodic table should give atomic weight, isotopes, natural state, (solid, gas, liquid) electron shells, inert (y/n) and anything else I've forgotten to throw in. :) Of course, organizing it all is almost as big a challenge as building the database to begin with, but it's always fun to watch someone else work out such problems. :) And, just fyi, After we'd had that whole discussion on calculating sunrise/sunset, I started to write my own calculator, then discovered php has it built-in, all you need to do is feed it your long/lat, and it spits out the info for you (see http://thesiegelsnest.us/blog/ weather for a working encarnation), Just thought I'd let you know. :) _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From weavermicha at googlemail.com Wed Feb 9 10:01:14 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 10:01:14 +0000 Subject: a possible i-phone problem Message-ID: <4d52656a.dd25e30a.7a1b.0b44@mx.google.com> how do you do a hard reset? i tried holding down the hmoe button and power buttons while switched on and the i-phone just told me to double tap before shutting down. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: Sarah Alawami To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Date sent: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:58:51 -0800 >Subject: Re: a possible i-phone problem >No issues here at all. Maybe try reseting the phone to see if that helps? don't restore it just do a hard reset of the thing. >S >On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:03 AM, michael weaver wrote: >> i am wondering if i have a possible problem with my i-phone which i thought i might have resolved by upgrading the firmware to the latest ios. >> i was having a problem where i had my phone near my ear when i got my phone and the problem was it would switch between the ear speaker for the phone and the actual speaker when you take it away from your ear when not using the headphones that come with the phone. >> i thought that the upgrade would have resolved this but i still get this problem during calls when i hear the name of the person i am calling when it is close to my ear and i still get this problem of it doing this switching between the phone earpiece and the speaker. >> has anyone else had this problem even with the phone directly touching their ear and if so is there any setting which might be causing this issue? >> it is like i am talking to someone and listening through the phone earpiece and it will switch so some of the conversation with my caller can be heard through the speaker which is used when it is hands free and this switching can occur in the space of a few seconds. >> it not only affects me but it also possibly puzzles the caller at the other end. >> i have the cut out of my i-phone case pressed right up against my ear to try and prevent this automatic switching. >> as far as i know it doesn't appear to do it as much with the previous version but it still appears to do it. >> _______________________________________________ >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> _______________________________________________ >To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > hi all OK I am running fusion. Do I need sharpkeys to remap say an insert key on a bluetooth imac keyboard to work with programs like system access etc? From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Wed Feb 9 11:32:33 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:32:33 +0000 Subject: speech recognition Message-ID: hi has anyone gotten speech recognition under vista/windows seven to work using vmware fusion? I can't get it to recognize the sentences I speak I thought we had good microphones in our apple computers? From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 9 12:35:23 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 02:35:23 -1000 Subject: An idea about Keynote In-Reply-To: References: <54A2DD71-DC00-4F9D-B30C-93C1879F0FC2@anarchie.org.uk> <000c01cbc7c0$893d8630$9bb89290$@dcu.ie> <532E9EB8-B787-4EEA-8EF5-AF73DFB45DC5@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <832A9417-52E6-4750-B029-CF5408496EEC@mac.com> Hi Sarah, You wrote: > But how do you change the voice. I don't want alex. lol! Anne's suggestion of using the Services menu option of "Add to iTunes as a Spoken Track" is the neatest solution, because you can just select your text and then use the Services submenu to send this to iTunes (where it will show up in your music library as a track titled "Text to Speech" -- or you can find it by checking your "Recently Added" smart playlist in the sources table). However, if you really don't want Alex as the voice, you can write your own Automator workflow, and select the voice. You'd choose the actions: 1) "Get Contents of TextEdit Document" 2) "Text to Audio File" 3) "Import Audio Files" The "Text to Audio File" action has a pop up button that you can set to "Fred" or other voice, and will also let you set the name of the file and it's location. "Import Audio Files" lets you specify your encoder (AAC, MP3, WAV, etc.) in the pop up button, and has a checkbox that lets you delete the source file after encoding. (You want this step, because the audio file generated in step 2 will be an uncompressed AIFF file.) I think the defaults are to use "Alex" and generate an AAC file (with the name you specify in the "Text to Audio File" action's text box), which will show up in your iTunes music library. If you wanted to your workflow in Automator, you'd probably want to first try: 1) "Get Contents of TextEdit Document" 2) "Speak Text" (and set the voice on the pop up button to your selection) Then you could run the Workflow with Command-R, and it would act on the whichever TextEdit document was in the active window. (If you want to stop the speech in the middle of the file, use Command+period). Once you are happy with the spoken samples, you can delete "Speak Text", and replace it with "Text to Audio File". If you don't want to use iTunes, you can encode the resulting AIFF sound file with any other software application that you want. This is more work than Anne's suggestion. The voice is only meant to prompt you as to the content and number of the Keynote slides, after all, but it's perfectly workable if you don't want to use the default Alex voice and want to customize your own Automator workflow with a different voice. Cheers, Esther From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 13:21:12 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:21:12 -0500 Subject: a possible i-phone problem In-Reply-To: <4d52656a.dd25e30a.7a1b.0b44@mx.google.com> References: <4d52656a.dd25e30a.7a1b.0b44@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <34F72FF3-7A90-415A-AD3F-005424B5300D@gmail.com> Keep them held down and the phone will shut down, then after a few minutes it will come on again itself. If it doesn't then manually turn it on again. On Feb 9, 2011, at 5:01 AM, michael weaver wrote: > how do you do a hard reset? > i tried holding down the hmoe button and power buttons while switched on and the i-phone just told me to double tap before shutting down. > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sarah Alawami > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Date sent: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:58:51 -0800 >> Subject: Re: a possible i-phone problem > >> No issues here at all. Maybe try reseting the phone to see if > that helps? don't restore it just do a hard reset of the thing. > >> S >> On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:03 AM, michael weaver wrote: > >>> i am wondering if i have a possible problem with my i-phone > which i thought i might have resolved by upgrading the firmware to the latest ios. >>> i was having a problem where i had my phone near my ear when i > got my phone and the problem was it would switch between the ear speaker for the phone and the actual speaker when you take it away from your ear when not using the headphones that come with the phone. >>> i thought that the upgrade would have resolved this but i still > get this problem during calls when i hear the name of the person i am calling when it is close to my ear and i still get this problem of it doing this switching between the phone earpiece and the speaker. >>> has anyone else had this problem even with the phone directly > touching their ear and if so is there any setting which might be causing this issue? >>> it is like i am talking to someone and listening through the > phone earpiece and it will switch so some of the conversation with my caller can be heard through the speaker which is used when it is hands free and this switching can occur in the space of a few seconds. >>> it not only affects me but it also possibly puzzles the caller > at the other end. >>> i have the cut out of my i-phone case pressed right up against > my ear to try and prevent this automatic switching. >>> as far as i know it doesn't appear to do it as much with the > previous version but it still appears to do it. >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted > to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted > to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >> _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Wed Feb 9 14:23:17 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:23:17 +0000 Subject: signal status in menu bar Message-ID: <766977D3-31BD-4C5D-ABF5-1F89A4838BFD@virginmedia.com> Hi all i have moved my mac into the bedroom and had installed the other day a phone socket anyway i have put in the efferent cable in and there are no bars on the status menu im a little confused is this right ??? also has anyone had any problems with safari today keeps crashing and asks me if i want to reopen etc etc any help would e great many thanks jules From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Wed Feb 9 15:14:27 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:14:27 +0000 Subject: signal status in menu bar In-Reply-To: <766977D3-31BD-4C5D-ABF5-1F89A4838BFD@virginmedia.com> References: <766977D3-31BD-4C5D-ABF5-1F89A4838BFD@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <2AE26D2E-38ED-4C6A-B011-CB8A9F21E73F@googlemail.com> i emagen that would be right as the status menu where it says how ever many bars you have i think only applies when you are connecting through airport which is what you use when your connecting through a router so i would emagen that the 0 bars is correct but i am sure some one will correct me if i am wrong smiley. safarie did that to me the other day and kept crashing on a certain websight but luckely it's been very good the last few days. Ian McNamara From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Wed Feb 9 15:24:24 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:24:24 +0000 Subject: signal status in menu bar In-Reply-To: <2AE26D2E-38ED-4C6A-B011-CB8A9F21E73F@googlemail.com> References: <766977D3-31BD-4C5D-ABF5-1F89A4838BFD@virginmedia.com> <2AE26D2E-38ED-4C6A-B011-CB8A9F21E73F@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <8D16F8BB-DAB5-49B4-A188-5D9AC7800486@virginmedia.com> ok thanks ian i just think its because i have been so used to checking the bars lol and now they are not there just me being silly prob as for safari i was on the d w p website hmm not sure bout that one smiley thanks matey jules On 9 Feb 2011, at 15:14, Ian McNamara wrote: > i emagen that would be right as the status menu where it says how ever many bars you have i think only applies when you are connecting through airport which is what you use when your connecting through a router so i would emagen that the 0 bars is correct but i am sure some one will correct me if i am wrong smiley. safarie did that to me the other day and kept crashing on a certain websight but luckely it's been very good the last few days. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Wed Feb 9 15:50:08 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:50:08 +0000 Subject: signal status in menu bar In-Reply-To: <2AE26D2E-38ED-4C6A-B011-CB8A9F21E73F@googlemail.com> References: <766977D3-31BD-4C5D-ABF5-1F89A4838BFD@virginmedia.com> <2AE26D2E-38ED-4C6A-B011-CB8A9F21E73F@googlemail.com> Message-ID: HI. Yes, I would agree. As you now have the Ethernet Cable in the Mac, AirPort is no longer having to be used. So the Mac treats it as not connected until the cable is unplugged, therefore taking away the signal status in the menu bar. Hope this helps. Lewis :) On 9 Feb 2011, at 15:14, Ian McNamara wrote: > i emagen that would be right as the status menu where it says how ever many bars you have i think only applies when you are connecting through airport which is what you use when your connecting through a router so i would emagen that the 0 bars is correct but i am sure some one will correct me if i am wrong smiley. safarie did that to me the other day and kept crashing on a certain websight but luckely it's been very good the last few days. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Wed Feb 9 15:51:59 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:51:59 +0000 Subject: signal status in menu bar In-Reply-To: References: <766977D3-31BD-4C5D-ABF5-1F89A4838BFD@virginmedia.com> <2AE26D2E-38ED-4C6A-B011-CB8A9F21E73F@googlemail.com> Message-ID: thanks matey smiley On 9 Feb 2011, at 15:50, Lewis Crack wrote: > HI. > > Yes, I would agree. As you now have the Ethernet Cable in the Mac, AirPort is no longer having to be used. > So the Mac treats it as not connected until the cable is unplugged, therefore taking away the signal status in the menu bar. > Hope this helps. > Lewis :) > On 9 Feb 2011, at 15:14, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> i emagen that would be right as the status menu where it says how ever many bars you have i think only applies when you are connecting through airport which is what you use when your connecting through a router so i would emagen that the 0 bars is correct but i am sure some one will correct me if i am wrong smiley. safarie did that to me the other day and kept crashing on a certain websight but luckely it's been very good the last few days. >> >> Ian McNamara >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 18:08:11 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:08:11 -0800 Subject: dropbox not accessibil on mac Message-ID: <7B856704-AFBB-4AF5-92DA-6F6BF0123DC1@gmail.com> Well most of it is but the prefs pain is not anymore. Here is the link. http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/02/09/dropbox-now-entirely-inaccessible-on-mac-os-x/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 20:20:09 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:20:09 -0800 Subject: Wal-Mart to Carry Verizon iPhone in Nearly 600 Stores Tomorrow Message-ID: Wal-Mart today announced that it wil offer the Verizon iPhone for sale in nearly 600 of its retail store locations, joining Apple, Verizon, and Best Buy ... http://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/09/wal-mart-to-carry-verizon-iphone-in-nearly-600-stores-tomorrow/ Should be interesting From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 20:21:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:21:12 -0800 Subject: 'Death Hug': Verizon iPhone Demonstrates Antenna Attenuation Issues Message-ID: Again? Read on: http://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/08/death-hug-verizon-iphone-demonstrates-antenna-attenuation-issues/ From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Feb 9 20:47:30 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:47:30 +0000 Subject: terminal mode and alternative text editor. Message-ID: <4FCAE12E-1C72-45B0-8C7F-20192E9413BA@computing.dcu.ie> Hi there, For various reasons, I've to do some editing on config files. I need to do this from Terminal, as I'll need to use "sudo". So has anyone found a nice editor that is VO friendly? I've been playing a bit with Pico and it's not bad, but is there anything better? Another reason I'd like to sort this, is that I'm teaching a class in C++ and my students are using GEdit. I've not had much luck with this one, has anyone else tried it? Cheers all, D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From oyvind at lode.is Wed Feb 9 20:50:55 2011 From: oyvind at lode.is (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8yvind_Lode?=) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:50:55 +0000 Subject: terminal mode and alternative text editor. In-Reply-To: <4FCAE12E-1C72-45B0-8C7F-20192E9413BA@computing.dcu.ie> References: <4FCAE12E-1C72-45B0-8C7F-20192E9413BA@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: I use Emacs on Linux and my understanding is that Emacs works well with VoiceOver on OS X. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of D?nal Fitzpatrick Sent: 9. februar 2011 21:47 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: terminal mode and alternative text editor. Hi there, For various reasons, I've to do some editing on config files. I need to do this from Terminal, as I'll need to use "sudo". So has anyone found a nice editor that is VO friendly? I've been playing a bit with Pico and it's not bad, but is there anything better? Another reason I'd like to sort this, is that I'm teaching a class in C++ and my students are using GEdit. I've not had much luck with this one, has anyone else tried it? Cheers all, D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 20:56:28 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:56:28 -0800 Subject: Are iPhone extended-service contracts worth the money? @cultofmac takes a deeper look and reports their findings. Message-ID: <6D97FC50-02E1-472A-AB2E-F467F7D31042@gmail.com> Are they areally a waist of money: read on: http://bit.ly/dJO6uS From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Feb 9 21:19:33 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:19:33 +0000 Subject: terminal mode and alternative text editor. In-Reply-To: References: <4FCAE12E-1C72-45B0-8C7F-20192E9413BA@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <10BA277B-BFEB-48D0-97E7-0F911E96457B@computing.dcu.ie> Emacs works with VO? Good lord I certainly live and learn, I'd no idea. On 9 Feb 2011, at 20:50, ?yvind Lode wrote: > I use Emacs on Linux and my understanding is that Emacs works well with VoiceOver on OS X. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of D?nal Fitzpatrick > Sent: 9. februar 2011 21:47 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: terminal mode and alternative text editor. > > Hi there, > > For various reasons, I've to do some editing on config files. I need to do this from Terminal, as I'll need to use "sudo". > > So has anyone found a nice editor that is VO friendly? I've been playing a bit with Pico and it's not bad, but is there anything better? > > Another reason I'd like to sort this, is that I'm teaching a class in C++ and my students are using GEdit. I've not had much luck with this one, has anyone else tried it? > > Cheers all, > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From oyvind at lode.is Wed Feb 9 21:53:18 2011 From: oyvind at lode.is (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8yvind_Lode?=) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:53:18 +0000 Subject: terminal mode and alternative text editor. In-Reply-To: <10BA277B-BFEB-48D0-97E7-0F911E96457B@computing.dcu.ie> References: <4FCAE12E-1C72-45B0-8C7F-20192E9413BA@computing.dcu.ie> <10BA277B-BFEB-48D0-97E7-0F911E96457B@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: If you run Emacs from the terminal it should work. That's what I've been told but not tried myself yet since I don't own a Mac. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of D?nal Fitzpatrick Sent: 9. februar 2011 22:20 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: terminal mode and alternative text editor. Emacs works with VO? Good lord I certainly live and learn, I'd no idea. On 9 Feb 2011, at 20:50, ?yvind Lode wrote: > I use Emacs on Linux and my understanding is that Emacs works well with VoiceOver on OS X. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of D?nal Fitzpatrick > Sent: 9. februar 2011 21:47 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: terminal mode and alternative text editor. > > Hi there, > > For various reasons, I've to do some editing on config files. I need to do this from Terminal, as I'll need to use "sudo". > > So has anyone found a nice editor that is VO friendly? I've been playing a bit with Pico and it's not bad, but is there anything better? > > Another reason I'd like to sort this, is that I'm teaching a class in C++ and my students are using GEdit. I've not had much luck with this one, has anyone else tried it? > > Cheers all, > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Feb 10 04:37:39 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:37:39 -0600 Subject: possibly off topic: M.Sc. projects. In-Reply-To: <000901cbc83f$30f02350$92d069f0$@dcu.ie> References: <7716EC5E-3087-4457-A878-3A5EEDBFD486@softcon.com> <000901cbc83f$30f02350$92d069f0$@dcu.ie> Message-ID: <65348683-11A1-47A8-A702-3880361A811A@softcon.com> Here's another idea, and no, I don't have anything like it at the moment, but since it just occurred to me, perhaps I'll see what I can do about putting something together. How about a starmap. It could be visual, but it would also have to have some way of pulling data for visually impaired folks, perhaps arranged by brightness, distance from earth, (or some other arbitrary point) or maybe sorted by magnitude. A way of finding particular kinds of stars would be cool too, (you know, super novas, red giants, white dwarves, sun-type stars, and the like) It's always interested me, but never have managed to put together any sort of a program to pull such data on a whim. However, making something like that work with voicover, especially if it had a visual display of the starscape would be an interesting exercise. From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Feb 10 04:47:15 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:47:15 -0600 Subject: terminal mode and alternative text editor. In-Reply-To: <4FCAE12E-1C72-45B0-8C7F-20192E9413BA@computing.dcu.ie> References: <4FCAE12E-1C72-45B0-8C7F-20192E9413BA@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Actually, pico works for me most of the time, but when I have something just quick and easy that needs changed, believe it or not, I just use ed. So, between ed (where I can go to a particular line just by typing it in) and pico for general text editing, I do ok in terminal. On the other hand, it is handy to be able to load things into a simple gui-based editor at times just so cut and paste are a bit simpler. On the whole though, I've really not found anything better than the ed/ pico combo I've gotten used to over the years, and that's really what I work with under terminal, so you may need to try some different editors (sourceforge has tons of them) to see if anything else strikes your fancy. It's always possible you'll find one that you just can't live without. :) My thing with terminal though is that I don't want to get used to anything that won't be available on a majority of the systems I need to access, mine or not, and when switching operating systems, which is why on the whole I've not gone hunting for better stuff. Since I can usually find pico and ed on nearly any system I've logged into, it seems to me to be a good combo that prevents me getting used to something better then having to downgrade and remember what the commands were when it isn't available anymore. :) Doubt it, but hope this helps. From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Feb 10 04:48:30 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:48:30 -0600 Subject: terminal mode and alternative text editor. In-Reply-To: References: <4FCAE12E-1C72-45B0-8C7F-20192E9413BA@computing.dcu.ie> <10BA277B-BFEB-48D0-97E7-0F911E96457B@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <991358B9-514A-4774-B67D-7D12034B852E@softcon.com> Emacs does indeed work with vo, but I never could get used to either emacs or vi, so I don't use them, though I did run emacs a few times to verify it works, and to test some scripts, but otherwise, I'm not an emacs person. On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:53 PM, ?yvind Lode wrote: > If you run Emacs from the terminal it should work. > That's what I've been told but not tried myself yet since I don't > own a Mac. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > ] On Behalf Of D?nal Fitzpatrick > Sent: 9. februar 2011 22:20 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: terminal mode and alternative text editor. > > Emacs works with VO? Good lord I certainly live and learn, I'd no > idea. > On 9 Feb 2011, at 20:50, ?yvind Lode wrote: > >> I use Emacs on Linux and my understanding is that Emacs works well >> with VoiceOver on OS X. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> ] On Behalf Of D?nal Fitzpatrick >> Sent: 9. februar 2011 21:47 >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: terminal mode and alternative text editor. >> >> Hi there, >> >> For various reasons, I've to do some editing on config files. I >> need to do this from Terminal, as I'll need to use "sudo". >> >> So has anyone found a nice editor that is VO friendly? I've been >> playing a bit with Pico and it's not bad, but is there anything >> better? >> >> Another reason I'd like to sort this, is that I'm teaching a class >> in C++ and my students are using GEdit. I've not had much luck >> with this one, has anyone else tried it? >> >> Cheers all, >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted >> to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted >> to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted > to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted > to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From helianthe at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 06:40:12 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:40:12 +0100 Subject: move addict again Message-ID: <78C0E0C2-59B8-497F-B4A6-62AAF0E6EBA3@mac-access.net> I just tried this app again in the accessible folder but still does not work for me. Yeah I know some ofyou are going to say that it works just fine for them but it's not worth replying if that's all you are going to say. I would like to know how on earth you make this app work? I am beginning to think it's not even worth it. Thanks for any help Lyn & Twinny ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From ian228 at hotmail.co.uk Thu Feb 10 09:13:51 2011 From: ian228 at hotmail.co.uk (Ian Robinson) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:13:51 -0000 Subject: Tesco Message-ID: Hi All, I use Tesco on-line for my grocery shopping and am wondering how useable it is with the Mac. Cheers. Ian From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 09:48:28 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:48:28 +0000 Subject: possibly off topic: M.Sc. projects. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8E270EF0-ACC7-4EDF-8D9F-DF162CA32992@mac-access.net> Hello D?nal On 8 Feb 2011, at 22:33, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > ? I'm going to apologise to the list mods here, because I might be dragging the list off-topic. > You're not actually, so no need to apologise. :) > ? My evening has been spent trying to dream up ideas for projects for M.Sc. students. The format is that they undertake what I'll describe as a mini dissertation. It involves doing some research, implementing software, evaluating it and writing a paper. > I have a suggestion; let's have an accessible PDF editor/creator for Mac OSX It is the one area where things are really really lacking. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 09:50:13 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:50:13 +0000 Subject: bootcamp bug In-Reply-To: <90D7ED37-E314-473E-A885-1BE6F052215C@mac-access.org.uk> References: <90D7ED37-E314-473E-A885-1BE6F052215C@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <269EB0E5-327B-4F1F-B9B8-0639BA7AE37E@mac-access.net> Hello William On 8 Feb 2011, at 23:34, William Lomas wrote: > ? hi has anyone else noted that with bootcamp, when you are asked to put in a blank cd to burn the support software the program not seeing the disc? > I suggest maybe your disks are faulty. I have tried it here with the latest v3.1 Boot Camp and it works fine. Lynne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Feb 10 09:53:41 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:53:41 +0000 Subject: possibly off topic: M.Sc. projects. In-Reply-To: <8E270EF0-ACC7-4EDF-8D9F-DF162CA32992@mac-access.net> References: <8E270EF0-ACC7-4EDF-8D9F-DF162CA32992@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <18579C99-8E2B-4F31-A55A-51748FAD3C01@computing.dcu.ie> Lynne: I will top-post. That one has definite possibilities. Thank you very much. D?nal On 10 Feb 2011, at 09:48, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello D?nal > > On 8 Feb 2011, at 22:33, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> ? I'm going to apologise to the list mods here, because I might be dragging the list off-topic. >> > You're not actually, so no need to apologise. :) > >> ? My evening has been spent trying to dream up ideas for projects for M.Sc. students. The format is that they undertake what I'll describe as a mini dissertation. It involves doing some research, implementing software, evaluating it and writing a paper. >> > I have a suggestion; let's have an accessible PDF editor/creator for Mac OSX It is the one area where things are really really lacking. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 09:54:01 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:54:01 +0000 Subject: VoiceOver Says Busy; [Was Re: too busy ] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello William First, could you possibly please try to make your subject lines more descriptive of your problem/comment, so that people don't have to waste time reading it if they don't wish to add anything to the thread. On 8 Feb 2011, at 23:47, William Lomas wrote: > ? , in disc utility as well voiceover seems way to busy when opening an image file, Apple really need to I think sort this out, as it makes using apps impractical > I suggest William that you start checking/repairing the permissions of your drive more regularly. This is a classic cause, so I have discovered, of this symptom. So it isn't necessarily Apple's error, I'm afraid, on this occasion it may be user error. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 09:55:39 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:55:39 +0000 Subject: bootcamp drivers In-Reply-To: <553D441F-648B-4BA4-BE8F-35C22B9B81B1@mac-access.org.uk> References: <553D441F-648B-4BA4-BE8F-35C22B9B81B1@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <77D90374-1B96-460E-A3BF-77AB6EF8EFEE@mac-access.net> Hello William On 8 Feb 2011, at 23:51, William Lomas wrote: > ? Hi all are the bootcamp drivers on the snowleopard dvd? > I assume therefore if they are, that I don't need to burn the software as instructed in the bootcamp asssistant? > Yes. Insert the disk in a Windows session. Your SL DVD is a multi-session disk. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 09:59:50 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:59:50 +0000 Subject: sharpkeys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <925D1029-DE82-4E6E-B283-31B0CD414BB2@mac-access.net> William This is off topic. Your Windows configuration is not a Mac issue. I know this sounds churlish; but we need to keep strictly on Mac. As the welcome messages make very clear, the configuration of the virtual machine itself is on topic. But the configuration of Windows is off topic. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 10:01:41 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:01:41 +0000 Subject: Off Topic; [Re: speech recognition ] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <688628D7-AE6C-4900-840C-46070FB53C1A@mac-access.net> Off Topic! This relates to Windows. Please stick to Mac OSX. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 10:08:49 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:08:49 +0000 Subject: move addict again In-Reply-To: <78C0E0C2-59B8-497F-B4A6-62AAF0E6EBA3@mac-access.net> References: <78C0E0C2-59B8-497F-B4A6-62AAF0E6EBA3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5DFFEFFE-C070-453A-AA2E-B7C324BE6DCD@mac-access.net> Hello Lyn No, I'm not just going to say "It works fine here". I very much want to help you if I can. May I contact you off list later today? Lynne On 10 Feb 2011, at 06:40, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > I just tried this app again in the accessible folder but still does not work for me. Yeah I know some ofyou are going to say that it works just fine for them but it's not worth replying if that's all you are going to say. I would like to know how on earth you make this app work? I am beginning to think it's not even worth it. > Thanks for any help > > Lyn & Twinny > > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Thu Feb 10 10:18:05 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:18:05 +0000 Subject: Tesco In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ian! The Tesco site can be navigated ok with vo! I think you can pick to go screen reader as well! Although I think vo could handle it anyway! hth Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 10 Feb 2011, at 09:13, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi All, > > I use Tesco on-line for my grocery shopping and am wondering how useable it is with the Mac. > > Cheers. > > Ian > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Thu Feb 10 10:25:11 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:25:11 +0000 Subject: App store's suggestions! Message-ID: <28F614D3-C7DB-43B3-8BF6-9FCD4483557D@gmail.com> Hi all! I've sent a suggestion to Apple access to make Apps more easier to find by adding something like [vo] to the titles if the App is vo friendly! They have forwarded it to the appropriate people! So lets see what happens! All the best! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Thu Feb 10 10:55:45 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:55:45 +0000 Subject: App store's suggestions! In-Reply-To: <28F614D3-C7DB-43B3-8BF6-9FCD4483557D@gmail.com> References: <28F614D3-C7DB-43B3-8BF6-9FCD4483557D@gmail.com> Message-ID: that's a very good idear it would deffinatly make things easyer. Ian McNamara From gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 11:16:44 2011 From: gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:16:44 +0000 Subject: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers Message-ID: Hello everybody I don't know whether this applies to the visually impaired who rely totally on VoiceOver or not. But I thought I'd mention it anyway; because it's something I notice quite a lot when using the iPad and, especially, the iPhone. Sometimes, when visiting large web pages such as , or , or its international version at , the fonts appear differently and are sometimes visually very difficult to read. In fact, I sometimes find myself resorting to using VoiceOver, even though I have excellent vision. But VoiceOver has no problems it seems with the pages I'm on; so I am starting to wonder whether there is some kind of incompatibility between the large web pages and iOS itself from a visual perspective. That all said, it could also be that I have a setting that needs to be changed. I can't think what though; and most of the browser settings are set to defaults. I would welcome any comment, even though I fully appreciate that most of you won't have noticed this issue if you don't have vision. Lynne _______________________________________ Gordon & Lynne Smith; gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 Fax: +44--1642-365-123 We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 11:17:33 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:17:33 +0000 Subject: Tesco In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96E97924-0D93-4AB6-AED3-F4E9B0699FAB@mac-access.net> Hi Ian, The Tesco site is perfectly accessible with VO. I use it all the time when I'm here. You don't need to use the Screen Reader-friendly version, but of course if that is easier for you then the choice is there. TC :) James On 10 Feb 2011, at 09:13, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi All, > > I use Tesco on-line for my grocery shopping and am wondering how useable it is with the Mac. > > Cheers. > > Ian > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Thu Feb 10 16:22:16 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:22:16 +0000 Subject: deleting a contact Message-ID: <4d541033.e4e8d80a.7c22.0b93@mx.google.com> how do i delete a contact from the i-phone? it only seems to allow me to delete information from a field and not the full contact and i can't seem to find the delete button when scrolling through my contacts. i tried to do it via the mac but couldn't find my i-phone listed in the folders. From helianthe at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 16:56:18 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:56:18 +0100 Subject: deleting a contact In-Reply-To: <4d541033.e4e8d80a.7c22.0b93@mx.google.com> References: <4d541033.e4e8d80a.7c22.0b93@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <6627CBFF-C398-40BE-BE40-7789CFA594A9@mac-access.net> Hey Michael, I've just tried it on my Iphone. Ok...when you double tap to access the contact information, try to find the "edit button". Once you double tapped the edit button, you need to flick with 3 fingers on the screen from bottom to top to go down the list of options. You will find the delete contact button somewhere near the bottom on the screen somewhere. Hope this helps Take care, Lyn & Twinny On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:22 PM, michael weaver wrote: > how do i delete a contact from the i-phone? > it only seems to allow me to delete information from a field and not the full contact and i can't seem to find the delete button when scrolling through my contacts. > i tried to do it via the mac but couldn't find my i-phone listed in the folders. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From helianthe at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 16:57:20 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:57:20 +0100 Subject: move addict again In-Reply-To: <5DFFEFFE-C070-453A-AA2E-B7C324BE6DCD@mac-access.net> References: <78C0E0C2-59B8-497F-B4A6-62AAF0E6EBA3@mac-access.net> <5DFFEFFE-C070-453A-AA2E-B7C324BE6DCD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, That's ok..thanks , I'll wait for your email then. Thanks again. Lyn & Twinny On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Lyn > > No, I'm not just going to say "It works fine here". I very much want to help you if I can. > > May I contact you off list later today? > > Lynne > > On 10 Feb 2011, at 06:40, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > >> I just tried this app again in the accessible folder but still does not work for me. Yeah I know some ofyou are going to say that it works just fine for them but it's not worth replying if that's all you are going to say. I would like to know how on earth you make this app work? I am beginning to think it's not even worth it. >> Thanks for any help >> >> Lyn & Twinny >> >> ********** >> You can contact me in the following ways: >> email: >> helianthe at mac-access.net >> msn: >> lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >> skype: >> keanemaniac >> facebook: >> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >> I am now also on twitter: >> www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >> Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Thu Feb 10 17:02:59 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:02:59 -0500 Subject: move addict again In-Reply-To: <5DFFEFFE-C070-453A-AA2E-B7C324BE6DCD@mac-access.net> References: <78C0E0C2-59B8-497F-B4A6-62AAF0E6EBA3@mac-access.net> <5DFFEFFE-C070-453A-AA2E-B7C324BE6DCD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <256A1402-B9A1-4BAC-9BAD-13FD4BD33DB6@chicksdigmacs.net> Hi Lyn, I had the same issue where Moveaddict was not working for me either. I now have it working thanks to some kind folks from another list. Esther wrote a lovely message to this list, which was much more thorough than the one I originally wrote. But here is my explanation, from my sent items, as I wrote it to another list. The link referenced below is from my public dropbox folder. I don't know if anyone had this problem, but if your app store version of Moveaddict did not come with a preferences app, this file should get your Moveaddict working. All I needed to do was run this app, configure any preferences I wished, and cut and paste to my heart's content. I highly recommend at least checking the run at login checkbox in the general tab. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/moveAddict%20Preferences.app.zip I hope someone finds this useful. Rose On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:08 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Lyn > > No, I'm not just going to say "It works fine here". I very much want to help you if I can. > > May I contact you off list later today? > > Lynne > > On 10 Feb 2011, at 06:40, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > >> I just tried this app again in the accessible folder but still does not work for me. Yeah I know some ofyou are going to say that it works just fine for them but it's not worth replying if that's all you are going to say. I would like to know how on earth you make this app work? I am beginning to think it's not even worth it. >> Thanks for any help >> >> Lyn & Twinny >> >> ********** >> You can contact me in the following ways: >> email: >> helianthe at mac-access.net >> msn: >> lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >> skype: >> keanemaniac >> facebook: >> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >> I am now also on twitter: >> www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >> Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From helianthe at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 17:19:53 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:19:53 +0100 Subject: move addict again In-Reply-To: <256A1402-B9A1-4BAC-9BAD-13FD4BD33DB6@chicksdigmacs.net> References: <78C0E0C2-59B8-497F-B4A6-62AAF0E6EBA3@mac-access.net> <5DFFEFFE-C070-453A-AA2E-B7C324BE6DCD@mac-access.net> <256A1402-B9A1-4BAC-9BAD-13FD4BD33DB6@chicksdigmacs.net> Message-ID: <278A021C-D398-4FD3-B1D8-7605587E5F04@mac-access.net> Rose, Well no matter what I do this thing still does not work. I have the preferences app but I can't find anyway to set your options. All I find is "run this script or quit, and that's that. This app simply does not work here and I am honestly beginning to think it is useless. Lyn & Twinny On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Rose Morales wrote: > Hi Lyn, > I had the same issue where Moveaddict was not working for me either. I now have it working thanks to some kind folks from another list. Esther wrote a lovely message to this list, which was much more thorough than the one I originally wrote. But here is my explanation, from my sent items, as I wrote it to another list. The link referenced below is from my public dropbox folder. > > I don't know if anyone had this problem, but if your app store version of Moveaddict did not come with a preferences app, this file should get your Moveaddict working. All I needed to do was run this app, configure any preferences I wished, and cut and paste to my heart's content. I highly recommend at least checking the run at login checkbox in the general tab. > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/moveAddict%20Preferences.app.zip > I hope someone finds this useful. > Rose > On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:08 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Lyn >> >> No, I'm not just going to say "It works fine here". I very much want to help you if I can. >> >> May I contact you off list later today? >> >> Lynne >> >> On 10 Feb 2011, at 06:40, Lyn & Twinny wrote: >> >>> I just tried this app again in the accessible folder but still does not work for me. Yeah I know some ofyou are going to say that it works just fine for them but it's not worth replying if that's all you are going to say. I would like to know how on earth you make this app work? I am beginning to think it's not even worth it. >>> Thanks for any help >>> >>> Lyn & Twinny >>> >>> ********** >>> You can contact me in the following ways: >>> email: >>> helianthe at mac-access.net >>> msn: >>> lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >>> skype: >>> keanemaniac >>> facebook: >>> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >>> I am now also on twitter: >>> www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >>> Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Thu Feb 10 17:27:22 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:27:22 -0500 Subject: move addict again In-Reply-To: <278A021C-D398-4FD3-B1D8-7605587E5F04@mac-access.net> References: <78C0E0C2-59B8-497F-B4A6-62AAF0E6EBA3@mac-access.net> <5DFFEFFE-C070-453A-AA2E-B7C324BE6DCD@mac-access.net> <256A1402-B9A1-4BAC-9BAD-13FD4BD33DB6@chicksdigmacs.net> <278A021C-D398-4FD3-B1D8-7605587E5F04@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2C79A8B1-AA9E-43D6-9B7B-3C1C03C93890@chicksdigmacs.net> Lyn, I didn't have to set any options. All I had to do was run that preferences app and check the open at login box. Then, when you hit command-x on something, it should say, move addict, one item cut, or however many items you cut. I don't know why you're seeing what you are, so I'll leave this to Lynn in an effort not to clutter up the list. But as I worked with Jeff to confirm the fix which Jeff proposed might work, the one which Esther spoke of, I just thought i'd chime in. I sincerely hope your problem gets fixed. Rose On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > Rose, > > Well no matter what I do this thing still does not work. I have the preferences app but I can't find anyway to set your options. All I find is "run this script or quit, and that's that. This app simply does not work here and I am honestly beginning to think it is useless. > > Lyn & Twinny > On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Rose Morales wrote: > >> Hi Lyn, >> I had the same issue where Moveaddict was not working for me either. I now have it working thanks to some kind folks from another list. Esther wrote a lovely message to this list, which was much more thorough than the one I originally wrote. But here is my explanation, from my sent items, as I wrote it to another list. The link referenced below is from my public dropbox folder. >> >> I don't know if anyone had this problem, but if your app store version of Moveaddict did not come with a preferences app, this file should get your Moveaddict working. All I needed to do was run this app, configure any preferences I wished, and cut and paste to my heart's content. I highly recommend at least checking the run at login checkbox in the general tab. >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/moveAddict%20Preferences.app.zip >> I hope someone finds this useful. >> Rose >> On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:08 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Lyn >>> >>> No, I'm not just going to say "It works fine here". I very much want to help you if I can. >>> >>> May I contact you off list later today? >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 10 Feb 2011, at 06:40, Lyn & Twinny wrote: >>> >>>> I just tried this app again in the accessible folder but still does not work for me. Yeah I know some ofyou are going to say that it works just fine for them but it's not worth replying if that's all you are going to say. I would like to know how on earth you make this app work? I am beginning to think it's not even worth it. >>>> Thanks for any help >>>> >>>> Lyn & Twinny >>>> >>>> ********** >>>> You can contact me in the following ways: >>>> email: >>>> helianthe at mac-access.net >>>> msn: >>>> lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >>>> skype: >>>> keanemaniac >>>> facebook: >>>> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >>>> I am now also on twitter: >>>> www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >>>> Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From oyvind at lode.is Thu Feb 10 17:31:52 2011 From: oyvind at lode.is (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8yvind_Lode?=) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:31:52 +0000 Subject: deleting a contact In-Reply-To: <6627CBFF-C398-40BE-BE40-7789CFA594A9@mac-access.net> References: <4d541033.e4e8d80a.7c22.0b93@mx.google.com> <6627CBFF-C398-40BE-BE40-7789CFA594A9@mac-access.net> Message-ID: It's actually a four-finger swipe down to move to the bottom of the screen. Double tap the contact, then double tap Edit and then do a four-finger swipe down and you'll land on the delete contact button. Then double tap the delete contact button. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lyn & Twinny Sent: 10. februar 2011 17:56 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: deleting a contact Hey Michael, I've just tried it on my Iphone. Ok...when you double tap to access the contact information, try to find the "edit button". Once you double tapped the edit button, you need to flick with 3 fingers on the screen from bottom to top to go down the list of options. You will find the delete contact button somewhere near the bottom on the screen somewhere. Hope this helps Take care, Lyn & Twinny On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:22 PM, michael weaver wrote: > how do i delete a contact from the i-phone? > it only seems to allow me to delete information from a field and not the full contact and i can't seem to find the delete button when scrolling through my contacts. > i tried to do it via the mac but couldn't find my i-phone listed in the folders. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Feb 10 18:05:45 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:05:45 +0000 Subject: Tesco In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <029349AA-9420-4B80-9B91-C921FA161EED@blueyonder.co.uk> Ian, I use the main website to my shopping and it works perfectly fine. I do not use their accessible version as this does not contain any javascript which means every time you want to do something it causes the browser to refresh the page. So my advice is to use the main site. I tend to use the rota a lot to navigate around. I tend to enter I'm" in the VO find facility, so every time I hit VO + G it takes me to the search box where I then just hit VO + the right arrow and I am on it. After entering a product into the search box, I then use the header rota to then look at my results. When the rota is displaying your headers, press the number 3 key to only show the products. After checking out, I tend to use the forms rota to navigate through the payment process. I use the website every week, so I am pretty fast at getting around. In time when you pick up how you like to use the site you will be quick too. The only problems I have encountered is that when you click on more product information it used to bring up a small new window which was fine, but now it seems to use Adobe AIR to create a layer, this can't be read by most screen readers. And when you go to select a delivery slot, row headings have not been added, so it requires a bit of navigating around the table to understand what day and time you are on, but it is perfectly doable. Both these issues have been reported to Tesco. I also discovered another bug which is more of a fault of Safari/VO not listing every header or link, compared to screen readers on Windows, this bug has been reported to Apple who have not yet acknowledged it. This bug is not unique to the Tesco site, I have found similar problems on other sites too. I quite enjoy using the Tesco site, you might prefer their accessible version, but for me this reminds me of websites from 8 years ago when screen readers were very basic. You could also try the Sinsbury's website, not as enjoyable to use but works perfectly fine. As for ASDA though, forget it, total nightmare and you can't even open the accessible version on the Mac (has been reported to ASDA on numerous occasions). Regards Chris On 10 Feb 2011, at 09:13, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi All, > > I use Tesco on-line for my grocery shopping and am wondering how useable it is with the Mac. > > Cheers. > > Ian > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Feb 10 18:08:57 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:08:57 +0000 Subject: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <792EFDDF-D1F9-4B6A-8BF1-8DEECE0CACBE@blueyonder.co.uk> Lynne, I wonder if this is a Cascading Style Sheet issue, maybe the mobile versions of Safari and the Mac version support different version of the CSS. Chris On 10 Feb 2011, at 11:16, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I don't know whether this applies to the visually impaired who rely totally on VoiceOver or not. But I thought I'd mention it anyway; because it's something I notice quite a lot when using the iPad and, especially, the iPhone. > > Sometimes, when visiting large web pages such as , or , or its international version at , the fonts appear differently and are sometimes visually very difficult to read. In fact, I sometimes find myself resorting to using VoiceOver, even though I have excellent vision. But VoiceOver has no problems it seems with the pages I'm on; so I am starting to wonder whether there is some kind of incompatibility between the large web pages and iOS itself from a visual perspective. > > That all said, it could also be that I have a setting that needs to be changed. I can't think what though; and most of the browser settings are set to defaults. > > I would welcome any comment, even though I fully appreciate that most of you won't have noticed this issue if you don't have vision. > > Lynne > > > > _______________________________________ > > Gordon & Lynne Smith; > gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net > > VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET > MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 > Fax: +44--1642-365-123 > > We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Thu Feb 10 18:16:55 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (gunn at tznet.com) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:16:55 -0500 Subject: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers Message-ID: <380-220112410181655995@M2W114.mail2web.com> Hi: Just to add my thoughts, many sites will also have a mobile version. So maybe and I don't know if Amazon has a mobile web site but for example m.amazon.com. Take care, John Original Message: ----------------- From: Chris Moore moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:08:57 +0000 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers Lynne, I wonder if this is a Cascading Style Sheet issue, maybe the mobile versions of Safari and the Mac version support different version of the CSS. Chris On 10 Feb 2011, at 11:16, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I don't know whether this applies to the visually impaired who rely totally on VoiceOver or not. But I thought I'd mention it anyway; because it's something I notice quite a lot when using the iPad and, especially, the iPhone. > > Sometimes, when visiting large web pages such as , or , or its international version at , the fonts appear differently and are sometimes visually very difficult to read. In fact, I sometimes find myself resorting to using VoiceOver, even though I have excellent vision. But VoiceOver has no problems it seems with the pages I'm on; so I am starting to wonder whether there is some kind of incompatibility between the large web pages and iOS itself from a visual perspective. > > That all said, it could also be that I have a setting that needs to be changed. I can't think what though; and most of the browser settings are set to defaults. > > I would welcome any comment, even though I fully appreciate that most of you won't have noticed this issue if you don't have vision. > > Lynne > > > > _______________________________________ > > Gordon & Lynne Smith; > gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net > > VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET > MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 > Fax: +44--1642-365-123 > > We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From w9fyi at me.com Thu Feb 10 18:16:59 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:16:59 -0700 Subject: App store's suggestions! In-Reply-To: References: <28F614D3-C7DB-43B3-8BF6-9FCD4483557D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <57DCFEA5-B967-4FED-B1EA-A8F761BCFB01@me.com> I also think that one of the things that could be done is to file a bug report with apple and have it addressed at that level. On Feb 10, 2011, at 3:55 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > that's a very good idear it would deffinatly make things easyer. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 18:44:43 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:44:43 +0100 Subject: App store's suggestions! In-Reply-To: <28F614D3-C7DB-43B3-8BF6-9FCD4483557D@gmail.com> References: <28F614D3-C7DB-43B3-8BF6-9FCD4483557D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9344B233-1E9A-4017-98A3-7187991094E2@gmail.com> Hi, One thing you have to keep in mind is that Apple is not responsible for the accessibility of an application except its contents. While Apple probably could turn VoiceOver on really quick to evaluate every application, I don't think that's the way to go about it. As far as I know, there is not an accessibility policy in place, except for those times Apple pushed developers to try to at least consider accessibility in those few cases where there was none. However, it is mostly the responsibility of the developer and not Apple's. If a developer does not include accessibility within their application, then it is up to the end user to contact them with your inquiries. A lot of the time, an application is accessible out of the box but for those cases that it is not, there are always support links under the "information" headings in the Mac APp Store. This applies to iOS as well. Further, leaving reviews about this will probably also get some attention, as the rating of an application is very important to any developer. The higher ratings, the more people will take the plunge and give it a shot. Of course, if a sighted person reads a review detailing the lack of accessibility, they may likely just shrug and install it anyway. Of course, there is the chance the application does not do what they want or they might just care about other users than themselves. I could keep talking about this for hours, but I hear this topic coming up over and over elsewhere and it all just feels like I'm repeating myself. My point is this. It doesn't kill you to pay for an application that may not be accessible. Even if it is not, I'm sure most developers will in fact be willing to work something out. And, if they are entirely unwilling to do so, there are always refund policies. I'd like to think that "technical difficulties" would cover that policy, and accessibility in this case since it is essentially a technical difficulty. One last thing I'd like to say is that, even if someone replies to this, this will probably be my last message about this issue. While I'd appreciate it if Apple was actually able to implement something like this, I personally do not believe it will happen. Why? Because there are already enough policies in place which governs the contents within an application, such as sexual adult content, explicit material and certain violence. I have heard whispers that Apple may loosen its hold on this type o material, though that remains to be seen. Secondly,, I'm also sure that if some sort of review system was put in place for accessibility, applications would still manage to slip through the cracks somehow. Or, it may just be that I have no belief in a system like this. I've always believed in using mainstream systems, and purchasing an app even though the chance is that it may not be accessible with VoiceOver. If it's not, I'll take the time it takes to contact the developer and hope that the developer replies. If the developer does not, I'll work out a refund if it really appears that my hopes are just that. Perhaps that is harsh, and I understand if no one agrees. I just think that the way it works now is perfectly ok, and if we leave reviews, people should take the time to read them. That's why we write them, after all. Making an obvious title such as "Inaccessible Piece of Junk" or something similar would get anyone's attention. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From ian228 at hotmail.co.uk Thu Feb 10 18:48:38 2011 From: ian228 at hotmail.co.uk (Ian Robinson) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:48:38 -0000 Subject: Tesco In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for all the replies. I went out this afternoon and bought a MacBook! What a lovely piece of equipment. Now all I have to do is ditch 20 years of PC knowledge and start again! Cheers. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Colin M Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:18 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Cc: Colin M Subject: Re: Tesco Hi Ian! The Tesco site can be navigated ok with vo! I think you can pick to go screen reader as well! Although I think vo could handle it anyway! hth Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 10 Feb 2011, at 09:13, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi All, > > I use Tesco on-line for my grocery shopping and am wondering how useable > it is with the Mac. > > Cheers. > > Ian > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Thu Feb 10 18:54:10 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:54:10 +0000 Subject: move addict again In-Reply-To: <2C79A8B1-AA9E-43D6-9B7B-3C1C03C93890@chicksdigmacs.net> References: <78C0E0C2-59B8-497F-B4A6-62AAF0E6EBA3@mac-access.net> <5DFFEFFE-C070-453A-AA2E-B7C324BE6DCD@mac-access.net> <256A1402-B9A1-4BAC-9BAD-13FD4BD33DB6@chicksdigmacs.net> <278A021C-D398-4FD3-B1D8-7605587E5F04@mac-access.net> <2C79A8B1-AA9E-43D6-9B7B-3C1C03C93890@chicksdigmacs.net> Message-ID: <0700FAA5-29BB-4B4C-BA9C-94E377B04C8B@gmail.com> Hi there! Have you got your [let vo be controlled by apple script] checked in vo utility if so then its something else! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 10 Feb 2011, at 17:27, Rose Morales wrote: > Lyn, > I didn't have to set any options. All I had to do was run that preferences app and check the open at login box. Then, when you hit command-x on something, it should say, move addict, one item cut, or however many items you cut. I don't know why you're seeing what you are, so I'll leave this to Lynn in an effort not to clutter up the list. But as I worked with Jeff to confirm the fix which Jeff proposed might work, the one which Esther spoke of, I just thought i'd chime in. I sincerely hope your problem gets fixed. > Rose > On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > >> Rose, >> >> Well no matter what I do this thing still does not work. I have the preferences app but I can't find anyway to set your options. All I find is "run this script or quit, and that's that. This app simply does not work here and I am honestly beginning to think it is useless. >> >> Lyn & Twinny >> On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Rose Morales wrote: >> >>> Hi Lyn, >>> I had the same issue where Moveaddict was not working for me either. I now have it working thanks to some kind folks from another list. Esther wrote a lovely message to this list, which was much more thorough than the one I originally wrote. But here is my explanation, from my sent items, as I wrote it to another list. The link referenced below is from my public dropbox folder. >>> >>> I don't know if anyone had this problem, but if your app store version of Moveaddict did not come with a preferences app, this file should get your Moveaddict working. All I needed to do was run this app, configure any preferences I wished, and cut and paste to my heart's content. I highly recommend at least checking the run at login checkbox in the general tab. >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/moveAddict%20Preferences.app.zip >>> I hope someone finds this useful. >>> Rose >>> On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:08 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Lyn >>>> >>>> No, I'm not just going to say "It works fine here". I very much want to help you if I can. >>>> >>>> May I contact you off list later today? >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> On 10 Feb 2011, at 06:40, Lyn & Twinny wrote: >>>> >>>>> I just tried this app again in the accessible folder but still does not work for me. Yeah I know some ofyou are going to say that it works just fine for them but it's not worth replying if that's all you are going to say. I would like to know how on earth you make this app work? I am beginning to think it's not even worth it. >>>>> Thanks for any help >>>>> >>>>> Lyn & Twinny >>>>> >>>>> ********** >>>>> You can contact me in the following ways: >>>>> email: >>>>> helianthe at mac-access.net >>>>> msn: >>>>> lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >>>>> skype: >>>>> keanemaniac >>>>> facebook: >>>>> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >>>>> I am now also on twitter: >>>>> www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >>>>> Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> ********** >> You can contact me in the following ways: >> email: >> helianthe at mac-access.net >> msn: >> lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >> skype: >> keanemaniac >> facebook: >> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >> I am now also on twitter: >> www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >> Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 19:17:14 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:17:14 -0500 Subject: deleting a contact In-Reply-To: <4d541033.e4e8d80a.7c22.0b93@mx.google.com> References: <4d541033.e4e8d80a.7c22.0b93@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <7D2AE556-4623-4993-BDA9-BFA1874EE5A6@gmail.com> Your contacts are all the people, businesses, and so on, every listing in your address book on the mac. If you've created groups in the address book, then they will be listed in a table when you sync. When syncing your phone, choose the info tab. Check the checkbox to sink contacts. Then choose the checkbox you prefer, either to sink all contacts, or to sync selected groups. If you choose to sync all contacts, the groups table will be dimmed. If you choose to sync selected groups, the groups will be listed in the table with checkboxes, for you to check the groups you want to sync to your phone. Marcy On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:22 AM, michael weaver wrote: > how do i delete a contact from the i-phone? > it only seems to allow me to delete information from a field and not the full contact and i can't seem to find the delete button when scrolling through my contacts. > i tried to do it via the mac but couldn't find my i-phone listed in the folders. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simoncavendish at me.com Thu Feb 10 19:38:20 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:38:20 +0000 Subject: VO+right bracket and left bracket command doesn't work Message-ID: Hello Listers, There's a voiceover command, vo+right bracket, and vo+left bracket which is supposed to move voiceover to the area beyond splitter and before splitter respectively. It doesn't appear to be working when I execute it. Has anyone experienced the same thing? Why wouldn't it work when it is listed as a valid command when activating keyboard practice mode with vo+k. Thanks for any comments. Best wishes Simon From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 20:32:41 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:32:41 +0000 Subject: VO+right bracket and left bracket command doesn't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <239D27EB-CD85-42BF-817F-29DEDCC73DC2@mac-access.net> Hi Simon, This doesn't work for me either. If you add a shift, which turns into a Brace, it resizes the VO cursor. TC:) James On 10 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Hello Listers, > > There's a voiceover command, vo+right bracket, and vo+left bracket which is supposed to move voiceover to the area beyond splitter and before splitter respectively. It doesn't appear to be working when I execute it. Has anyone experienced the same thing? Why wouldn't it work when it is listed as a valid command when activating keyboard practice mode with vo+k. > > Thanks for any comments. > > Best wishes > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From helianthe at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 20:35:38 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:35:38 +0100 Subject: move addict again In-Reply-To: <0700FAA5-29BB-4B4C-BA9C-94E377B04C8B@gmail.com> References: <78C0E0C2-59B8-497F-B4A6-62AAF0E6EBA3@mac-access.net> <5DFFEFFE-C070-453A-AA2E-B7C324BE6DCD@mac-access.net> <256A1402-B9A1-4BAC-9BAD-13FD4BD33DB6@chicksdigmacs.net> <278A021C-D398-4FD3-B1D8-7605587E5F04@mac-access.net> <2C79A8B1-AA9E-43D6-9B7B-3C1C03C93890@chicksdigmacs.net> <0700FAA5-29BB-4B4C-BA9C-94E377B04C8B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <14648769-133D-4C75-8903-334519996286@mac-access.net> Hello, Yes, I have voice over controlled by Apple script so not sure what the problem is here. I am just about ready to give up on this app anyway, it is totally useless here. Lyn & Twinny On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi there! > Have you got your [let vo be controlled by apple script] checked in vo utility if so then its something else! > Colin > Qapla! > > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > On 10 Feb 2011, at 17:27, Rose Morales wrote: > >> Lyn, >> I didn't have to set any options. All I had to do was run that preferences app and check the open at login box. Then, when you hit command-x on something, it should say, move addict, one item cut, or however many items you cut. I don't know why you're seeing what you are, so I'll leave this to Lynn in an effort not to clutter up the list. But as I worked with Jeff to confirm the fix which Jeff proposed might work, the one which Esther spoke of, I just thought i'd chime in. I sincerely hope your problem gets fixed. >> Rose >> On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Lyn & Twinny wrote: >> >>> Rose, >>> >>> Well no matter what I do this thing still does not work. I have the preferences app but I can't find anyway to set your options. All I find is "run this script or quit, and that's that. This app simply does not work here and I am honestly beginning to think it is useless. >>> >>> Lyn & Twinny >>> On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Rose Morales wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Lyn, >>>> I had the same issue where Moveaddict was not working for me either. I now have it working thanks to some kind folks from another list. Esther wrote a lovely message to this list, which was much more thorough than the one I originally wrote. But here is my explanation, from my sent items, as I wrote it to another list. The link referenced below is from my public dropbox folder. >>>> >>>> I don't know if anyone had this problem, but if your app store version of Moveaddict did not come with a preferences app, this file should get your Moveaddict working. All I needed to do was run this app, configure any preferences I wished, and cut and paste to my heart's content. I highly recommend at least checking the run at login checkbox in the general tab. >>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/moveAddict%20Preferences.app.zip >>>> I hope someone finds this useful. >>>> Rose >>>> On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:08 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Lyn >>>>> >>>>> No, I'm not just going to say "It works fine here". I very much want to help you if I can. >>>>> >>>>> May I contact you off list later today? >>>>> >>>>> Lynne >>>>> >>>>> On 10 Feb 2011, at 06:40, Lyn & Twinny wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I just tried this app again in the accessible folder but still does not work for me. Yeah I know some ofyou are going to say that it works just fine for them but it's not worth replying if that's all you are going to say. I would like to know how on earth you make this app work? I am beginning to think it's not even worth it. >>>>>> Thanks for any help >>>>>> >>>>>> Lyn & Twinny >>>>>> >>>>>> ********** >>>>>> You can contact me in the following ways: >>>>>> email: >>>>>> helianthe at mac-access.net >>>>>> msn: >>>>>> lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >>>>>> skype: >>>>>> keanemaniac >>>>>> facebook: >>>>>> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >>>>>> I am now also on twitter: >>>>>> www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >>>>>> Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> ********** >>> You can contact me in the following ways: >>> email: >>> helianthe at mac-access.net >>> msn: >>> lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >>> skype: >>> keanemaniac >>> facebook: >>> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >>> I am now also on twitter: >>> www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >>> Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 20:36:57 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:36:57 -0500 Subject: mac solution for ripping audio from dvd movies sought Message-ID: <6320E721-1C76-4CF5-AD6E-65D41D8DE01E@gmail.com> Hi, everyone, I've been searching and trying without much success to find an accessible method of extracting the audio from dvd movies for the mac. I can rip dvds just fine but for some reason, cannot seem to find a way to get just the audio to extract. Solutions are appreciated preferably free ones. -- Marcy Hope you're having a nice day! From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 20:41:37 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:41:37 -0800 Subject: mac solution for ripping audio from dvd movies sought In-Reply-To: <6320E721-1C76-4CF5-AD6E-65D41D8DE01E@gmail.com> References: <6320E721-1C76-4CF5-AD6E-65D41D8DE01E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I use handbreak to wrip and switch to convert to audio. See a podcast I did on it in about april or may of last year. http://marrie.podbean.com Take care of yourself. On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Hi, everyone, > > I've been searching and trying without much success to find an accessible method of extracting the audio from dvd movies for the mac. > > I can rip dvds just fine but for some reason, cannot seem to find a way to get just the audio to extract. > > Solutions are appreciated preferably free ones. > > -- > Marcy > Hope you're having a nice day! > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 20:43:07 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:43:07 -0800 Subject: VO+right bracket and left bracket command doesn't work In-Reply-To: <239D27EB-CD85-42BF-817F-29DEDCC73DC2@mac-access.net> References: <239D27EB-CD85-42BF-817F-29DEDCC73DC2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <97577FF5-04A4-4B46-B059-A65A2A395D56@gmail.com> Hmm yeah mine, when when I it does a high e5 note. I don't think that's supposed to happen. lol! On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:32 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Simon, > > This doesn't work for me either. If you add a shift, which turns into a Brace, it resizes the VO cursor. > > TC:) > James > On 10 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> Hello Listers, >> >> There's a voiceover command, vo+right bracket, and vo+left bracket which is supposed to move voiceover to the area beyond splitter and before splitter respectively. It doesn't appear to be working when I execute it. Has anyone experienced the same thing? Why wouldn't it work when it is listed as a valid command when activating keyboard practice mode with vo+k. >> >> Thanks for any comments. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simoncavendish at me.com Thu Feb 10 21:55:55 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:55:55 +0000 Subject: Urgent Numbers help needed In-Reply-To: <81A5E419-6222-4C05-8D86-8CCA232ED816@googlemail.com> References: <81A5E419-6222-4C05-8D86-8CCA232ED816@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <79FB83BF-AAA7-4F93-869E-CD82BDAA22F6@me.com> Karl, I am in no way knowledgeable on Numbers as I struggle with the application myself having purchased it. I've just discovered how to access a number of menus provided you have the newer model of a mac computer with trackpad and the trackpad commander has been enabled in Voiceover utility. It seems to work as follows: once you arre are on a particular cell, hold down the control button and press and release the trackpad itself. I find that I need to hold it down for a second or so and then release it. The trick is also to continue to hold the control button while depressing and releasing the trackpad until you hear the familiar sound for the menu opening. Then you can release the control button and flick your finger up and down through the menu items. If you come across the menu item that says "submenu", flick to the right to open it and access its submenu items, and flick left to close the submenu. To activate a menu item, tap the trackpad twice with one finger. Hope this will help a little. Best wishes Simon On 6 Feb 2011, at 09:14, Karl wrote: > Hi, > I think someone on list had a numbers primer or help file; if they could make themselves known, please... > > Meanwhile, when selecting cells in a column voice over seems just to say selected cell rather than the contents of the cell, is there a way to hear the contents of the cell as I select them? > > Still need help on converting a row into a header row. I know it can be done from reading the manual but I can't seem to access the right menu. Please, if anyone can help. > > Last of all for the minute, I am having trouble interacting with the sheet table, I seem to be bounced back to the layout area when trying to change sheets. Anyone? > > Thanks a lot people, this is driving me mad. > > Cheers > Karl > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 22:19:13 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:19:13 +0000 Subject: move addict again In-Reply-To: References: <78C0E0C2-59B8-497F-B4A6-62AAF0E6EBA3@mac-access.net> <5DFFEFFE-C070-453A-AA2E-B7C324BE6DCD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Ly My apologies; things came up and I never got this done. It is high on my list for tomorrow though. Again, my apologies. Lynne On 10 Feb 2011, at 16:57, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > That's ok..thanks , I'll wait for your email then. > > Thanks again. > > Lyn & Twinny > > On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Lyn >> >> No, I'm not just going to say "It works fine here". I very much want to help you if I can. >> >> May I contact you off list later today? >> >> Lynne >> >> On 10 Feb 2011, at 06:40, Lyn & Twinny wrote: >> >>> I just tried this app again in the accessible folder but still does not work for me. Yeah I know some ofyou are going to say that it works just fine for them but it's not worth replying if that's all you are going to say. I would like to know how on earth you make this app work? I am beginning to think it's not even worth it. >>> Thanks for any help >>> >>> Lyn & Twinny >>> >>> ********** >>> You can contact me in the following ways: >>> email: >>> helianthe at mac-access.net >>> msn: >>> lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >>> skype: >>> keanemaniac >>> facebook: >>> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >>> I am now also on twitter: >>> www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >>> Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 22:23:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:23:12 +0000 Subject: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers In-Reply-To: <792EFDDF-D1F9-4B6A-8BF1-8DEECE0CACBE@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <792EFDDF-D1F9-4B6A-8BF1-8DEECE0CACBE@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: hello Chris On 10 Feb 2011, at 18:08, Chris Moore wrote: > ? I wonder if this is a Cascading Style Sheet issue, maybe the mobile versions of Safari and the Mac version support different version of the CSS. > I think it is entirely possible. Our file server, for instance, uses different interfaces for the mobile browser and for a desktop browser. So that might well be why it doesn't work. But the Apple site looks dreadful on a mobile device. Lynne > Chris > On 10 Feb 2011, at 11:16, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> I don't know whether this applies to the visually impaired who rely totally on VoiceOver or not. But I thought I'd mention it anyway; because it's something I notice quite a lot when using the iPad and, especially, the iPhone. >> >> Sometimes, when visiting large web pages such as , or , or its international version at , the fonts appear differently and are sometimes visually very difficult to read. In fact, I sometimes find myself resorting to using VoiceOver, even though I have excellent vision. But VoiceOver has no problems it seems with the pages I'm on; so I am starting to wonder whether there is some kind of incompatibility between the large web pages and iOS itself from a visual perspective. >> >> That all said, it could also be that I have a setting that needs to be changed. I can't think what though; and most of the browser settings are set to defaults. >> >> I would welcome any comment, even though I fully appreciate that most of you won't have noticed this issue if you don't have vision. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> Gordon & Lynne Smith; >> gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net >> >> VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET >> MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 >> Fax: +44--1642-365-123 >> >> We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 22:25:14 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:25:14 +0000 Subject: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers In-Reply-To: <380-220112410181655995@M2W114.mail2web.com> References: <380-220112410181655995@M2W114.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <9B5D4538-A399-410B-90CD-A35CBF661C12@mac-access.net> hello John On 10 Feb 2011, at 18:16, gunn at tznet.com wrote: > > ? Just to add my thoughts, many sites will also have a mobile version. So > maybe and I don't know if Amazon has a mobile web site but for example > m.amazon.com. > That's very valid comment. I know that Facebook has this facility, not that we use Facebook. :) But I would have thought that Apple would detect their own mobile browsers on their site. Lynne > Take care, > > John > > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Chris Moore moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:08:57 +0000 > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Subject: Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers > > > Lynne, > > I wonder if this is a Cascading Style Sheet issue, maybe the mobile > versions of Safari and the Mac version support different version of the > CSS. > > Chris > On 10 Feb 2011, at 11:16, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> I don't know whether this applies to the visually impaired who rely > totally on VoiceOver or not. But I thought I'd mention it anyway; because > it's something I notice quite a lot when using the iPad and, especially, > the iPhone. >> >> Sometimes, when visiting large web pages such as > , or , or its > international version at , the fonts appear > differently and are sometimes visually very difficult to read. In fact, I > sometimes find myself resorting to using VoiceOver, even though I have > excellent vision. But VoiceOver has no problems it seems with the pages I'm > on; so I am starting to wonder whether there is some kind of > incompatibility between the large web pages and iOS itself from a visual > perspective. >> >> That all said, it could also be that I have a setting that needs to be > changed. I can't think what though; and most of the browser settings are > set to defaults. >> >> I would welcome any comment, even though I fully appreciate that most of > you won't have noticed this issue if you don't have vision. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> Gordon & Lynne Smith; >> gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net >> >> VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET >> MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 >> Fax: +44--1642-365-123 >> >> We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in > the universe! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 22:20:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:20:06 -0800 Subject: Researchers reveal iPhone passwords in under six minutes Message-ID: <66CFA182-66B0-41C2-90B2-03DC7C06F495@gmail.com> Will apple fix this in an ios update? should be be more careful with our phones? Are we even safe? read on: http://bit.ly/eocp6x From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 10 22:28:38 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:28:38 +0000 Subject: mac solution for ripping audio from dvd movies sought In-Reply-To: <6320E721-1C76-4CF5-AD6E-65D41D8DE01E@gmail.com> References: <6320E721-1C76-4CF5-AD6E-65D41D8DE01E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6531CB15-70D5-449F-83FB-9CB231695AA7@mac-access.net> Marcy DVD Remaster Pro is what you want, it works well, it is fast and totally accessible. Lynne On 10 Feb 2011, at 20:36, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Hi, everyone, > > I've been searching and trying without much success to find an accessible method of extracting the audio from dvd movies for the mac. > > I can rip dvds just fine but for some reason, cannot seem to find a way to get just the audio to extract. > > Solutions are appreciated preferably free ones. > > -- > Marcy > Hope you're having a nice day! > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 23:19:21 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:19:21 -0500 Subject: mac solution for ripping audio from dvd movies sought In-Reply-To: References: <6320E721-1C76-4CF5-AD6E-65D41D8DE01E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi again, Sarah, I must apologize to you for my last email. I began to play the podcast, and it is indeed the correct one. iTunes obviously has mislabelled it, so I am glad I told you about that part but I definitely should have listened to at least the beginning before I wrote. Sorry for sending misinformation! Marcy On Feb 10, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I use handbreak to wrip and switch to convert to audio. See a podcast I did on it in about april or may of last year. http://marrie.podbean.com > > Take care of yourself. > On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > >> Hi, everyone, >> >> I've been searching and trying without much success to find an accessible method of extracting the audio from dvd movies for the mac. >> >> I can rip dvds just fine but for some reason, cannot seem to find a way to get just the audio to extract. >> >> Solutions are appreciated preferably free ones. >> >> -- >> Marcy >> Hope you're having a nice day! >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 23:24:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:24:58 -0800 Subject: Report: Apple making cheaper iPhone to fight Google Message-ID: <62724021-9B35-4A6F-A034-15254CFB2C06@gmail.com> This is interesting.. Will apple succeed with this? http://cnet.co/fZiAgK From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 23:30:37 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:30:37 -0800 Subject: mac solution for ripping audio from dvd movies sought In-Reply-To: References: <6320E721-1C76-4CF5-AD6E-65D41D8DE01E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Tha'ts fine. I resentyou thelink off list just in case. It was probably my fault. Hmm wonder what I broke last year? lol! S On Feb 10, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Hi again, Sarah, > > I must apologize to you for my last email. I began to play the podcast, and it is indeed the correct one. iTunes obviously has mislabelled it, so I am glad I told you about that part but I definitely should have listened to at least the beginning before I wrote. > > Sorry for sending misinformation! > > Marcy > > On Feb 10, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I use handbreak to wrip and switch to convert to audio. See a podcast I did on it in about april or may of last year. http://marrie.podbean.com >> >> Take care of yourself. >> On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >> >>> Hi, everyone, >>> >>> I've been searching and trying without much success to find an accessible method of extracting the audio from dvd movies for the mac. >>> >>> I can rip dvds just fine but for some reason, cannot seem to find a way to get just the audio to extract. >>> >>> Solutions are appreciated preferably free ones. >>> >>> -- >>> Marcy >>> Hope you're having a nice day! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Feb 10 08:45:50 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:45:50 +0000 Subject: possibly off topic: M.Sc. projects. In-Reply-To: <65348683-11A1-47A8-A702-3880361A811A@softcon.com> References: <7716EC5E-3087-4457-A878-3A5EEDBFD486@softcon.com> <000901cbc83f$30f02350$92d069f0$@dcu.ie> <65348683-11A1-47A8-A702-3880361A811A@softcon.com> Message-ID: <2554F054-0CC1-4646-926A-44B2AA5E2343@computing.dcu.ie> Another good one, cheers. On 10 Feb 2011, at 04:37, Travis Siegel wrote: > Here's another idea, and no, I don't have anything like it at the moment, but since it just occurred to me, perhaps I'll see what I can do about putting something together. > How about a starmap. > It could be visual, but it would also have to have some way of pulling data for visually impaired folks, perhaps arranged by brightness, distance from earth, (or some other arbitrary point) or maybe sorted by magnitude. A way of finding particular kinds of stars would be cool too, (you know, super novas, red giants, white dwarves, sun-type stars, and the like) > It's always interested me, but never have managed to put together any sort of a program to pull such data on a whim. > However, making something like that work with voicover, especially if it had a visual display of the starscape would be an interesting exercise. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moriond at mac.com Fri Feb 11 00:45:11 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:45:11 -1000 Subject: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Lynne, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > I don't know whether this applies to the visually impaired who rely totally on VoiceOver or not. But I thought I'd mention it anyway; because it's something I notice quite a lot when using the iPad and, especially, the iPhone. > > Sometimes, when visiting large web pages such as , or , or its international version at , the fonts appear differently and are sometimes visually very difficult to read. In fact, I sometimes find myself resorting to using VoiceOver, even though I have excellent vision. But VoiceOver has no problems it seems with the pages I'm on; so I am starting to wonder whether there is some kind of incompatibility between the large web pages and iOS itself from a visual perspective. > > That all said, it could also be that I have a setting that needs to be changed. I can't think what though; and most of the browser settings are set to defaults. ? Yes, Lynne, you can use a web bookmarklet to make the fonts easier for you to read in iOS browsers, and the same solution will also work for your regular Safari desktop browser. You need to have javascript enabled, which should be one of the default settings for Safari on the iPad. The easy way to do this is by setting this up for the browser on your computer, and then syncing your bookmarks to the iPad, iPhone, or iPod Touch, but it can be done entirely on your iDevice working with VoiceOver. It's just more cumbersome because you have to copy and paste text into the address field of your bookmark in edit mode. It turns out that these solutions work well for low vision users, too. And, as I'll describe at the very end of my post, another solution, which creates a "Readability" bookmarklet, also has advantages for blind VoiceOver users (both on the iDevices and in desktop Safari, but particularly for the iPad version of the Mobile Safari browser). A web bookmarklet is just a bookmark with javascript code in the address field in place of a URL. Instead of sending you to a new web page, it operates on the HTML content of the currently loaded browser page. An example would be the Google Translation bookmarklets, where clicking on the bookmarklet would display a translated version of the page's text. Although web pages like the Google Translation Tools page typically tell you to "drag this icon to your bookmarks bar", you can use the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) to copy and paste the link into the address field of a bookmark that you create. Then, in the case of the first 9 bookmarks on the (desktop) Safari "Bookmarks Bar", you can just press Command-1 to activate the first bookmark, Command-2 to activate the second bookmark, etc., and this will work in all versions of OS X. On the iPad, you can go to Settings > Safari and turn on the switch for "Always Show Bookmarks Bar" as well as making sure that the switch for "JavaScript" is turned on. This is in the main Settings menu for the iPad, and the switch to show the Bookmarks Bar is only a feature of the iPad version of Safari -- it won't be there for the iPhone or iPod Touch. Although I hide my Bookmarks Bar when using Safari on the Mac, I activate it for easier browsing on the iPad. You're going to create a web bookmarklet to increase the font size of your current web page, and you'll be able to navigate to it and double tap its entry on the iPad's Bookmarks Bar. I'll give you detailed instructions on how to create the bookmarklet with VoiceOver. (Note: new users will find it easier to work with Safari if they hide their toolbar and Bookmarks Bar with the Command+Shift+Backslash and Command+Option+B "View Menu" shortcuts, which toggle between hide and show modes. Non-English users may need to check the "View Menu" for a different shortcut combination for showing/hiding the toolbar.) 1. Create a "Big Font" bookmark in your "Bookmarks Bar" with the the javascript command to use 18pt font for the text in the address field. 1a. In Safari on your Mac, use the Command+D shortcut to create a new bookmark. Type in a name (e.g. "Big Font") into the text field of the dialog window, and then navigate to the pop up button, and set the location for the bookmark to be saved to the "Bookmarks Bar" (VO+Space, then press "b" or arrow down or up to the "Bookmarks Bar") and press "Return". Navigate to the "Add" button in the dialog window and press (VO+Space) to create the bookmark. 1b. Press Command+Option+B to go to the "Show All Bookmarks" page. Navigate (VO+Right Arrow) to the table of Bookmark Collections and interact. Press "b" or use your arrow keys to go to the "Bookmarks Bar" as your selection. 1c. Navigate (VO+Command+T in Snow Leopard, or stop interacting and VO+Right arrow in earlier versions of Mac OS X) to the table of Bookmarks. You should be at the first bookmark, "Big Font". (You could also use item chooser menu (VO+I) to find this.) 1d. Bring up the context menu (VO+Shift+M), then choose the option to "Edit Address" to copy and paste in the javascript command listed below. (Copy the line with Command+C in Mail or TextEdit, then Command+Tab to switch applications to Safari, select "Edit Address" from the context menu for the bookmark, and paste this into the address field with Command+V.) javascript:for(i=0;i References: <62724021-9B35-4A6F-A034-15254CFB2C06@gmail.com> Message-ID: Another thing apple needs to do if they want to compete with android is to make themselves available on all carriers, and sell unlocked phones at a price comparable to other unlocked phones. On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > This is interesting.. Will apple succeed with this? > > http://cnet.co/fZiAgK > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From abreier at kc.rr.com Fri Feb 11 03:36:37 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:36:37 -0600 Subject: Tesco References: Message-ID: <8518D326D4A0484AA286612869218E43@andrea78cdd59a> Good luck and congratulations! I so am read to get a Mac. I can't decide which kind to buy. the iMac or the one you got. Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Robinson" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Tesco > Thanks for all the replies. > > I went out this afternoon and bought a MacBook! What a lovely piece of > equipment. Now all I have to do is ditch 20 years of PC knowledge and > start again! > > Cheers. Ian > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Colin M > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:18 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Cc: Colin M > Subject: Re: Tesco > > Hi Ian! > The Tesco site can be navigated ok with vo! > I think you can pick to go screen reader as well! > Although I think vo could handle it anyway! > hth Colin > Qapla! > > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > On 10 Feb 2011, at 09:13, Ian Robinson wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I use Tesco on-line for my grocery shopping and am wondering how useable >> it is with the Mac. >> >> Cheers. >> >> Ian >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Fri Feb 11 04:02:14 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:02:14 -0500 Subject: issue with mail program Message-ID: Hello, I am using Snow leopard and the e-mail program that comes with it. some times when I am in the program I will get a message saying mail busy then it shuts down. then a message comes up saying mail program shutdown unexpectedly. has anyone had an issue with this? Bill Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Fri Feb 11 04:08:48 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:08:48 -0500 Subject: radio programs that work with the mac Message-ID: <69A3737D-2452-435E-9C91-AD2962AD7460@insightbb.com> Hello, yesterday I tried aneroid program called pandora radio. it didn't work with the mac. voice over read the information links ECT. but it wouldn't bring up any stations. I have also noticed that some of the radio reading services stations only use Media player and I can't get them to work with the mac. I think it would be nice if we could find a way to let those stations know there a growing number of people who are blind or visually impaired who would like to use there services who use Macs. has anyone else noticed this and do you have a solution to the problem? Bill Deatherage From w9fyi at mac-access.net Fri Feb 11 04:27:37 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:27:37 -0700 Subject: a great new servife Message-ID: <178F3E4D-BFA7-4F99-9E80-E8D4EC96B857@mac-access.net> Hi all, I just wanted to thank Gordon and Lynn for providing some free secure ssl email available for us. I've just set this up in mac mail,and so far I'm having some real fun, and it does make dealing with emails from this list and anything "accessible" related to the mac easy for my organizational purposes. Also, I've yet to have any spam on this whatsoever so I strongly you all to take advantage of this very nice service that Gordon and Lynn offer. Thanks From w9fyi at mac-access.net Fri Feb 11 05:12:34 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:12:34 -0700 Subject: iPad wifi? Message-ID: <9FCA3BDF-F375-4282-AB17-B9234DC46BFE@mac-access.net> Hi all, Does anybody know whether or not the iPad wifi will support GPS usage? Could I install Navigon for my wife on the device and it work, or is the GPS dependent on cellular data? Thanks, Justin From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Feb 11 05:23:36 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:23:36 -0600 Subject: VO+right bracket and left bracket command doesn't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7A37DA9B-9633-4EBF-BF6D-D30704F9BCF8@softcon.com> What I get when I use keyboard help, and press vo-right/left bracket is: history forward, and history back, which moves the voiceover cursor to the previous or next place in the navigation history. Whether or not this has anything to do with a splitter would depend entirely on whether or not you've actually moved across the splitter in your voiceover movement of the current application. Now, it's entirely that these keys were changed, as I'm still on leopard, not snowleopard, (still need to upgrade memory in both my macbook and the mini before I can install snowleopard), so if they've changed, I'd of course not have access to the new commands, in which case, this entire message is moot, but just thught I'd point out what it actually says (at least in my case) to try to prevent any confusion. From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Feb 11 05:45:41 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:45:41 -0600 Subject: Report: Apple making cheaper iPhone to fight Google In-Reply-To: References: <62724021-9B35-4A6F-A034-15254CFB2C06@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1C91615E-D28A-4A4C-87CB-90DDD5F85474@softcon.com> On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Another thing apple needs to do if they want to compete with android > is to make themselves available on all carriers, and sell unlocked > phones at a price comparable to other unlocked phones. That's exactly what the article said this was for. Duel band phones, and $200 w/o carrier requirements, so the phone would be unlocked for use anywhere. I went to our local AT&T store today, because you can buy an iphone 3gs 8gb model for just 49 bucks this saturday and sunday according to the commercials I have been hearing, and I wanted to see if they were participating in this promotion. They were, but what got me was the 2-year contract requirement, and the 39.95 plan price, along with the $25 dataplan requirement. Thanks, but no thanks. I don't need to be paying $65 a month for a cell phone when my pay-as-you go t-mobile one works just fine, and cost me about 25 bucks every couple months. I just don't use a cell phone often enough to make an investment like that one financially feasible. Sure would be nice to have though. :) So, I'll watch out for the new 200 dollar iphones, and snap one up when it comes out, then put it on my pay-as-you go plan, and have the best of both worlds. From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 05:59:50 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:59:50 -0600 Subject: iWork, Pages and KeyNote: Content Creation and Formatting Message-ID: In our latest VoiceOver On, episode 7;we take a thorough look at iWOrk content creation and formatting, in particular with Pages and KeyNote. We have a guest on, Anne Robertson, who we certainly appreciate her presenting content, providing explanation and point of view on current state of iWOrk VoiceOver accessibility. Please have a listen at: http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com or subscribe at: http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com/feed Sent from my iPhone From simoncavendish at me.com Fri Feb 11 06:34:12 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 06:34:12 +0000 Subject: issue with mail program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7BCE3587-1D1F-4A81-A977-C2BCAF8BEF71@me.com> Dear Bill, No, I have had no such issues with Mail. Sometimes Mail hangs for a numberr of seconds after I had shut it down but this is because it continues to communicate with the server. If you use imap, Mail has four connections open at anny one time with the server so it may take longer to shut down if you are trying to close it while it is updating its databases of messages, headers and so on. Simon On 11 Feb 2011, at 04:02, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I am using Snow leopard and the e-mail program that comes with it. some times when I am in the program I will get a message saying mail busy then it shuts down. then a message comes up saying mail program shutdown unexpectedly. has anyone had an issue with this? > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 08:50:54 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:50:54 -0800 Subject: issue with mail program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yep I have it about now twice a week. I told apple about this but they really don't know what could be the cause of this. I sent a message to this list about it about 2 or so months ago I think but we really don't know what's causing thi. S On Feb 10, 2011, at 8:02 PM, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I am using Snow leopard and the e-mail program that comes with it. some times when I am in the program I will get a message saying mail busy then it shuts down. then a message comes up saying mail program shutdown unexpectedly. has anyone had an issue with this? > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 08:51:44 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:51:44 -0800 Subject: Report: Apple making cheaper iPhone to fight Google In-Reply-To: References: <62724021-9B35-4A6F-A034-15254CFB2C06@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think that's what they might do. Imagine a phone that cam be used on any carrier for $200? spring, VZ at&t and tmobile? On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Another thing apple needs to do if they want to compete with android is to make themselves available on all carriers, and sell unlocked phones at a price comparable to other unlocked phones. > On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> This is interesting.. Will apple succeed with this? >> >> http://cnet.co/fZiAgK >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 09:03:24 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:03:24 +0100 Subject: issue with mail program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7FEC2C2B-4A01-4FAF-AF13-F3DDB0FA99B5@gmail.com> Hello Sarah, Just because I'm curious...did you send Apple your crash report? Not through the reporter itself, but through an actual e-mail from you? If you click the "Details" disclosure triangle and expand it, a text area will be visible displaying the running processes at the time of the crash, what caused the crash and which exception errors were encountered. I ask this because the crash report usually displays the issue, and certainly in this case. If you understand crash reports and what they mean, as well as the different elements, it make more sense if you read over it or send it to Apple directly. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From support at mac-access.net Fri Feb 11 09:31:56 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:31:56 +0000 Subject: New Mac Access Dot Net Member Message-ID: <1C327FF1-DCE3-4B82-A2DB-A18B871EC1F4@mac-access.net> Good Friday morning everybody I'm just writing this message to welcome Justin Mann to the Mac Access Dot Net group. Justin took out a Mac Access Dot Net address yesterday, and we believe his mail services are now up and running; including membership of this group at his new address. Incidentally, recently William Lomas also took out a subscription under one of our other domains, and several other members of this group have switched successfully from Google Mail to Mac Access Dot whatever. If you are interested in acquiring an address under the Mac Access banner, please feel free to contact us. I won't make a regular habit of posting these ads, it's just something we want you to be aware of so that you know you have the option. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 11:07:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 03:07:57 -0800 Subject: issue with mail program In-Reply-To: <7FEC2C2B-4A01-4FAF-AF13-F3DDB0FA99B5@gmail.com> References: <7FEC2C2B-4A01-4FAF-AF13-F3DDB0FA99B5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah. No go. On 11/02/2011, at 1:03, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Sarah, > > Just because I'm curious...did you send Apple your crash report? Not through the reporter itself, but through an actual e-mail from you? > > If you click the "Details" disclosure triangle and expand it, a text area will be visible displaying the running processes at the time of the crash, what caused the crash and which exception errors were encountered. > > I ask this because the crash report usually displays the issue, and certainly in this case. If you understand crash reports and what they mean, as well as the different elements, it make more sense if you read over it or send it to Apple directly. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From adrian at dogfish.plus.com Fri Feb 11 11:28:09 2011 From: adrian at dogfish.plus.com (Adrian Higginbotham) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:28:09 -0000 Subject: UK iPad users in london area? In-Reply-To: References: <7FEC2C2B-4A01-4FAF-AF13-F3DDB0FA99B5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003201cbc9de$c36267c0$4a273740$@plus.com> Hi: a contact is looking for any vision impaired ipad users within reasonable travelling distance (say a couple of hours) of London, who would be prepared to be shaodowed for a half ay or day to show how they use their ipad and for waht tasks. You wouldn't be asked to change your regular routine or demonstrate or test anything, just to have someone follow you around for an average day and observe how you use your ipad with voiceover. To take part you'd need to agree to be shadowed for either 3 or 6 hours on the 21, 22, or 23 of March. I don't know any more at present other than it's a project for the BBC. If you are an ipad user in southern England and want to take part drop me a mail on Adrian at dogfish.plus.com and I'll put you in touch with the project team. Adrian Higginbotham E: Adrian at dogfish.plus.com Twitter: @AHiggi From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: 11 February 2011 11:08 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: issue with mail program Yeah. No go. On 11/02/2011, at 1:03, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Sarah, > > Just because I'm curious...did you send Apple your crash report? Not through the reporter itself, but through an actual e-mail from you? > > If you click the "Details" disclosure triangle and expand it, a text area will be visible displaying the running processes at the time of the crash, what caused the crash and which exception errors were encountered. > > I ask this because the crash report usually displays the issue, and certainly in this case. If you understand crash reports and what they mean, as well as the different elements, it make more sense if you read over it or send it to Apple directly. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3435 - Release Date: 02/10/11 From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Feb 11 11:30:58 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:30:58 +0000 Subject: mail boxes. Message-ID: <7C573027-BB69-42EF-B093-D1E86FEE5225@googlemail.com> hi all what is the command to get it to sho mail boxes again i must have accedently hidden them as i can't see them. thanks very much. Ian McNamara From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Fri Feb 11 12:11:19 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:11:19 +0000 Subject: mail boxes. In-Reply-To: <7C573027-BB69-42EF-B093-D1E86FEE5225@googlemail.com> References: <7C573027-BB69-42EF-B093-D1E86FEE5225@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <596AC0D6-F0DF-45C8-ABFF-A313C8F11C7F@googlemail.com> HI. Have you tried navigating to the Mailboxes table with VO and Left arrow twice? Not sure how to unhide them though, I did it but can't remember as it was in a fit of pannick when I first got my Mac. Lewis. :) On 11 Feb 2011, at 11:30, Ian McNamara wrote: > hi all what is the command to get it to sho mail boxes again i must have accedently hidden them as i can't see them. > > thanks very much. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 12:28:15 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:28:15 +0100 Subject: mail boxes. In-Reply-To: <596AC0D6-F0DF-45C8-ABFF-A313C8F11C7F@googlemail.com> References: <7C573027-BB69-42EF-B093-D1E86FEE5225@googlemail.com> <596AC0D6-F0DF-45C8-ABFF-A313C8F11C7F@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <648BD81E-27E5-4A53-9204-A17A8CCA1DA3@gmail.com> Hello! There is a vertical splitter to the left of the "Messages" table. Try interacting with this, then VO-down arrow. This should display the mailboxes table again. That is how I usually hide it. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Feb 11 12:32:16 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:32:16 +0000 Subject: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers In-Reply-To: <9B5D4538-A399-410B-90CD-A35CBF661C12@mac-access.net> References: <380-220112410181655995@M2W114.mail2web.com> <9B5D4538-A399-410B-90CD-A35CBF661C12@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0C8B3313-960B-4215-83B3-BA5FE22907FF@blueyonder.co.uk> I know Apple have recently upgraded their website to take advantage of HTML 5, perhaps the iOS version of Safari does not support all the HTML 5 elements yet. My advice would be to download the Amazon and Apple Store apps instead. Chris On 10 Feb 2011, at 22:25, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > hello John > > On 10 Feb 2011, at 18:16, gunn at tznet.com wrote: >> >> ? Just to add my thoughts, many sites will also have a mobile version. So >> maybe and I don't know if Amazon has a mobile web site but for example >> m.amazon.com. >> > That's very valid comment. I know that Facebook has this facility, not that we use Facebook. :) But I would have thought that Apple would detect their own mobile browsers on their site. > > Lynne > >> Take care, >> >> John >> >> >> >> Original Message: >> ----------------- >> From: Chris Moore moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk >> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:08:57 +0000 >> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >> Subject: Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers >> >> >> Lynne, >> >> I wonder if this is a Cascading Style Sheet issue, maybe the mobile >> versions of Safari and the Mac version support different version of the >> CSS. >> >> Chris >> On 10 Feb 2011, at 11:16, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> I don't know whether this applies to the visually impaired who rely >> totally on VoiceOver or not. But I thought I'd mention it anyway; because >> it's something I notice quite a lot when using the iPad and, especially, >> the iPhone. >>> >>> Sometimes, when visiting large web pages such as >> , or , or its >> international version at , the fonts appear >> differently and are sometimes visually very difficult to read. In fact, I >> sometimes find myself resorting to using VoiceOver, even though I have >> excellent vision. But VoiceOver has no problems it seems with the pages I'm >> on; so I am starting to wonder whether there is some kind of >> incompatibility between the large web pages and iOS itself from a visual >> perspective. >>> >>> That all said, it could also be that I have a setting that needs to be >> changed. I can't think what though; and most of the browser settings are >> set to defaults. >>> >>> I would welcome any comment, even though I fully appreciate that most of >> you won't have noticed this issue if you don't have vision. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> >>> Gordon & Lynne Smith; >>> gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net >>> >>> VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET >>> MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 >>> Fax: +44--1642-365-123 >>> >>> We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in >> the universe! >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >> http://mail2web.com/ . >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Fri Feb 11 12:47:14 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:47:14 +0000 Subject: mail boxes. In-Reply-To: <7C573027-BB69-42EF-B093-D1E86FEE5225@googlemail.com> References: <7C573027-BB69-42EF-B093-D1E86FEE5225@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <9A226343-D204-4B4C-9C45-B54F823B2B08@mac-access.org.uk> command shift m On 11 Feb 2011, at 11:30, Ian McNamara wrote: > hi all what is the command to get it to sho mail boxes again i must have accedently hidden them as i can't see them. > > thanks very much. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Fri Feb 11 12:52:05 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:52:05 +0000 Subject: mail boxes. In-Reply-To: <9A226343-D204-4B4C-9C45-B54F823B2B08@mac-access.org.uk> References: <7C573027-BB69-42EF-B093-D1E86FEE5225@googlemail.com> <9A226343-D204-4B4C-9C45-B54F823B2B08@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: HI Will. Thanks for reminding us...I did know it but forgot it. Best regards. Lewis. On 11 Feb 2011, at 12:47, William Lomas wrote: > command shift m > > On 11 Feb 2011, at 11:30, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> hi all what is the command to get it to sho mail boxes again i must have accedently hidden them as i can't see them. >> >> thanks very much. >> >> Ian McNamara >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 15:51:25 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:51:25 -0500 Subject: mac solution for ripping audio from dvd movies sought In-Reply-To: <6531CB15-70D5-449F-83FB-9CB231695AA7@mac-access.net> References: <6320E721-1C76-4CF5-AD6E-65D41D8DE01E@gmail.com> <6531CB15-70D5-449F-83FB-9CB231695AA7@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <14EFF040-DD83-4045-A512-5F609D8C1B4A@gmail.com> > DVD Remaster Pro does not seem to be working out for me. I am trying to get mp3 out of it and it doesn't seem to want to do that. Any help would be appreciated. On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Marcy > > DVD Remaster Pro is what you want, > > it works well, it is fast and totally accessible. > > Lynne > > On 10 Feb 2011, at 20:36, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > >> Hi, everyone, >> >> I've been searching and trying without much success to find an accessible method of extracting the audio from dvd movies for the mac. >> >> I can rip dvds just fine but for some reason, cannot seem to find a way to get just the audio to extract. >> >> Solutions are appreciated preferably free ones. >> >> -- >> Marcy >> Hope you're having a nice day! >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Fri Feb 11 16:35:05 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:35:05 +0000 Subject: Take Control of Working with your iPad, Second Edition Now Available Message-ID: <16DCC1D0-7A92-4DFE-8A61-B535D0FBDA4B@mac-access.net> Hello everybody If you bought the first edition of this excellent book from us, you may buy the update to the second edition at the same great savings. Even if you didn't, you can still buy any of the Take Control books at a massive 80% saving via Mac Access Dot Net. If you'd like more information or just want to buy a book or 6, please contact the support address, and include the words "Take Control Book", (without the quotes), in the subject line of your message. That will help us to prioritise things more efficiently. Again, if you are interested in buying any of the books we are offering savings which surpass those which you can get directly from the Take Control site. It's your call! Lynne From support at mac-access.net Fri Feb 11 16:57:06 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:57:06 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcomer Message-ID: <313DCC45-60BC-4EFA-827B-1EB3B9695229@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Bud Kennedy to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 11 17:41:47 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:41:47 +0000 Subject: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <227F75EF-4A38-48F3-AB72-92CB8C4E8B38@mac-access.net> Hello Esther; please accept my apologies for the delay in responding. I hope you don't think me ignorant. We are a little behind on email and suchlike just now because of things going on here at home and also at work. On 11 Feb 2011, at 00:45, Esther wrote: > > ? Yes, Lynne, you can use a web bookmarklet to make the fonts easier for you to read in iOS browsers, and the same solution will also work for your regular Safari desktop browser. You need to have javascript enabled, which should be one of the default settings for Safari on the iPad. The easy way to do this is by setting this up for the browser on your computer, and then syncing your bookmarks to the iPad, iPhone, or iPod Touch, but it can be done entirely on your iDevice working with VoiceOver. It's just more cumbersome because you have to copy and paste text into the address field of your bookmark in edit mode. It turns out that these solutions work well for low vision users, too. And, as I'll describe at the very end of my post, another solution, which creates a "Readability" bookmarklet, also has advantages for blind VoiceOver users (both on the iDevices and in desktop Safari, but particularly for the iPad version of the Mobile Safari browser). > I wish I knew, Esther, how on earth you come up with all this stuff! Your messages are always fascinating to read and, when we get the Mac Access Dot Net blog up and running in the very near future, I hope that we can include some of your snippets there. I'm not going to quote all of your post; although I have read, and saved it. I want to thank you for being so thorough and so helpful to the group in general. I plan to try your solution tomorrow when we are out. I have already created some bookmarks which I have synced to the iPad. Again, very many thanks, and no less congratulations on your excellent post. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 11 18:08:30 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:08:30 +0000 Subject: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers In-Reply-To: <0C8B3313-960B-4215-83B3-BA5FE22907FF@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <380-220112410181655995@M2W114.mail2web.com> <9B5D4538-A399-410B-90CD-A35CBF661C12@mac-access.net> <0C8B3313-960B-4215-83B3-BA5FE22907FF@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hello Chris On 11 Feb 2011, at 12:32, Chris Moore wrote: > ? My advice would be to download the Amazon and Apple Store apps instead. > Those were only example pages Chris, just to demonstrate the issue. There are a lot of others all over the Internet, it's not just a problem limited to these two sites. Actually I don't use these sites much at all, nowhere near enough to use dedicated applications instead. We tend to buy using our desktops because I like to expand the images of things so that I can see in detail what we're getting. Lynne > Chris > On 10 Feb 2011, at 22:25, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> hello John >> >> On 10 Feb 2011, at 18:16, gunn at tznet.com wrote: >>> >>> ? Just to add my thoughts, many sites will also have a mobile version. So >>> maybe and I don't know if Amazon has a mobile web site but for example >>> m.amazon.com. >>> >> That's very valid comment. I know that Facebook has this facility, not that we use Facebook. :) But I would have thought that Apple would detect their own mobile browsers on their site. >> >> Lynne >> >>> Take care, >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> Original Message: >>> ----------------- >>> From: Chris Moore moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk >>> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:08:57 +0000 >>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>> Subject: Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers >>> >>> >>> Lynne, >>> >>> I wonder if this is a Cascading Style Sheet issue, maybe the mobile >>> versions of Safari and the Mac version support different version of the >>> CSS. >>> >>> Chris >>> On 10 Feb 2011, at 11:16, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everybody >>>> >>>> I don't know whether this applies to the visually impaired who rely >>> totally on VoiceOver or not. But I thought I'd mention it anyway; because >>> it's something I notice quite a lot when using the iPad and, especially, >>> the iPhone. >>>> >>>> Sometimes, when visiting large web pages such as >>> , or , or its >>> international version at , the fonts appear >>> differently and are sometimes visually very difficult to read. In fact, I >>> sometimes find myself resorting to using VoiceOver, even though I have >>> excellent vision. But VoiceOver has no problems it seems with the pages I'm >>> on; so I am starting to wonder whether there is some kind of >>> incompatibility between the large web pages and iOS itself from a visual >>> perspective. >>>> >>>> That all said, it could also be that I have a setting that needs to be >>> changed. I can't think what though; and most of the browser settings are >>> set to defaults. >>>> >>>> I would welcome any comment, even though I fully appreciate that most of >>> you won't have noticed this issue if you don't have vision. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> >>>> Gordon & Lynne Smith; >>>> gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET >>>> MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 >>>> Fax: +44--1642-365-123 >>>> >>>> We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in >>> the universe! >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >>> Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >>> Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >>> http://mail2web.com/ . >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 11 18:09:42 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:09:42 +0000 Subject: mac solution for ripping audio from dvd movies sought In-Reply-To: <14EFF040-DD83-4045-A512-5F609D8C1B4A@gmail.com> References: <6320E721-1C76-4CF5-AD6E-65D41D8DE01E@gmail.com> <6531CB15-70D5-449F-83FB-9CB231695AA7@mac-access.net> <14EFF040-DD83-4045-A512-5F609D8C1B4A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6103A425-5432-4A9D-8EE6-5989FE5EDAC5@mac-access.net> Hello Marcy it doesn't directly support MP3. Lynne On 11 Feb 2011, at 15:51, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >> DVD Remaster Pro does not seem to be working out for me. I am trying to get mp3 out of it and it doesn't seem to want to do that. From support at mac-access.net Fri Feb 11 18:20:13 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:20:13 +0000 Subject: Take Control Of Working With Your iPad; Second Edition Message-ID: <2E655343-A2CF-4482-8E86-730FF9BE6E56@mac-access.net> Hello everybody As mentioned earlier on Mac Access Dot Net's email forum, we are now offering the new Take Control of Working with Your iPad book, Second Edition, at at 80% saving over the regular price on the Take Control website. 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You'll gain insights into how the iPad handles files and how you can leverage that knowledge. * Manage your contacts and calendars: Learn the basics of using the iPad's included Contacts and Calendar apps. * Take notes effectively at meetings and lectures: It's hard to take a shiny new iPad to a meeting unobtrusively, but once the ooohs and ahhhs die down, you'll be able to get back to business, with pointers for using Apple's Notes app and tips on great third-party apps that help you take typed or handwritten notes, record audio, and even use speech recognition. * Write and send email: Find out how to set up email accounts, view and reply to email, and adjust settings in Mail to match your needs. * Create documents in Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, and more: Joe gets you up and running with the apps in Apple's mobile iWork suite, and he explores a number of third-party alternatives that offer capabilities that Apple overlooked. Joe also provides a special focus on cross-application communication between your iPad, "the cloud," and a desktop computer. * Print your documents: And not just on a printer. Joe describes how to "print" to a Dropbox folder, to PDF format, and more, using Apple's built-in AirPrint feature and third-party apps. There's still more! Learn how to use instant messaging, browse the Web effectively (especially with apps that complement or replace Safari), and map locations, all in the context of getting your work done. A final section offers pointers to apps that allow you to perform even more tasks, including drawing and painting, working with multi-track audio, outlining and brainstorming, and using databases. You can buy this book from Mac Access Dot Net at 80% off the regular price of just under $16.00 US. If you're interested in this offer, please contact with the words "Take Control Book Offer" in the subject line of your message, (without the quotes). We will be happy to give you further information. Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Feb 11 18:56:27 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:56:27 +0000 Subject: Adding attributes to the left, center and right parts of a header Message-ID: Hello everyone, Does anyone know how to define multiple items in a header in Pages 09 please? So for example, I want a page number on the right hand side and the heading for the chapter/section in the middle, is this possible? So far, I have been able to add page numbers easily, but when I try to add other information in another part of the header, the page number moves too. I've never ben able to achieve this in any word processor, so I am sure it is me and not a specific application. Thanks for any help. Take care :) James From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 19:52:26 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:52:26 -0500 Subject: mac solution for ripping audio from dvd movies sought References: <64C6189F-CFEE-4F55-A86F-1A7258ACABEF@comcast.net> Message-ID: <91DCFBCE-EBB3-4F70-A0F6-86B7DE66290F@gmail.com> From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Feb 11 20:42:23 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:42:23 +0000 Subject: Kobo app "in progress"? Message-ID: Hello everyone, I am trying once again to use the Kobo app on the IPhone. I've copied over some PDF books from the Mac into the app, but cannot read them. I've selected the one I want, but keep being told "in progress. Is there something I need to do to read these and other books please? Thanks Take care :) James From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Feb 11 21:27:14 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:27:14 +0100 Subject: Kobo app "in progress"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello James, I never use Kobo for reading PDFs, iBooks does that much more efficiently. I only read books bought or downloaded free from Kobo with the Kobo app. Cheers, Anne From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 12 03:00:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:00:15 -0800 Subject: [Mac-cessibility News] Twitterific Developers Respond to Comments on Lack of Accessibility in Version 4.0 for OS X Message-ID: All I can say is they really didn't do too well bassed on the article. read more and sorry for the unshortened link? I broke my script. lol! http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/02/11/twitterific-developers-respond-to-comments-on-lack-of-accessibility-in-version-4-0-for-os-x/ From khwicca at gmail.com Sat Feb 12 04:43:32 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:43:32 -0500 Subject: My itunes library is a mess.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26F0A421-ED02-4403-97BB-5001E981C86B@gmail.com> Can the main location for the iTunes library be on a PC and be accessed by a Mac? If so, could someone explain how to set this up? Thanks. Kristeen On Feb 5, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Actually, since the itunes files are just xml files, reading the info is easy enough, but your idea of having one master location is a good one, this is the method we use here, and it works well. We have several computers, and each one uses the central location, and has access to all the itunes data that way. The only issue we have with this method, is that sometimes I have to go manually cange ownership/permissions, because when one person adds stuff, another user can't always read those files. Makes for a mess, but if you have only a single user on your machines (or two, and always use the non-admin user to add files) this shouldn't become a problem. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net Sat Feb 12 08:42:12 2011 From: gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 08:42:12 +0000 Subject: iPad; WiFi Networking [Oddity] Message-ID: <57FEF137-F31C-479D-9A47-AC47715A6ACF@mac-access.net> Hello everybody OK, you may remember that I posted a little while ago that our iPad was behaving oddly when we encountered new WiFi networks. Well; Gordon told me at the time that he had already set it to remember our network, and not ask us any more about new networks which we might encounter as we are mobile. I thought that, perhaps, he'd made a mistake; or that he had not quite checked the right box. But when I looked under the settings>Network tab this morning, I discovered that he has indeed turned off the "Ask to join new networks" parameter. But oddly, when we are driving passed WiFi stations, the iPad is still coming up with the "Join WiFi Network" dialogue. Does anybody know why this might be? It's quite irritating when you're in the middle of a message, and that dialogue pops up. Lynne _______________________________________ Gordon & Lynne Smith; gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 Fax: +44--1642-365-123 We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! From gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net Sat Feb 12 09:13:18 2011 From: gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:13:18 +0000 Subject: iPad WiFi Networking Message-ID: <54AA7776-6640-4421-B644-122C59F16CCC@mac-access.net> Hello again everybody Please disregard my previous message about WiFi networking on the iPad. I should have thought to try power cycling the iPad when the box was checked, and I didn't. Our iPad is generally on standby with the Mail task running 24/7/365 as it's the 3G model and we have a generous data allowance. When at hone, it uses our WiFi network anyway; so large posts are not an issue. But when I moved out of range it was a pest. Anyway; it seems to be fixed now, so my apologies. Lynne _______________________________________ Gordon & Lynne Smith; gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 Fax: +44--1642-365-123 We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! From ian228 at hotmail.co.uk Sat Feb 12 13:52:33 2011 From: ian228 at hotmail.co.uk (Ian Robinson) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:52:33 -0000 Subject: Tesco In-Reply-To: <8518D326D4A0484AA286612869218E43@andrea78cdd59a> References: <8518D326D4A0484AA286612869218E43@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: Thanks Andrea, I guess it depends on your needs. I want to be able to use the Mac anywhere around the house, so the MacBook was the best option for me. Incidentally, I noticed that none of the Macs have a control key on the right hand side. This is a shame as the key is used for VoiceOver commands. I checked the MacBook, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro and the Bluetooth keyboard that comes with the IMac. Not sure about the wired keyboard as one wasn't available. Essentially, all the keyboards are the same. Cheers. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Andrea Breier Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 3:36 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Tesco Good luck and congratulations! I so am read to get a Mac. I can't decide which kind to buy. the iMac or the one you got. Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Robinson" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Tesco > Thanks for all the replies. > > I went out this afternoon and bought a MacBook! What a lovely piece of > equipment. Now all I have to do is ditch 20 years of PC knowledge and > start again! > > Cheers. Ian > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Colin M > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:18 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Cc: Colin M > Subject: Re: Tesco > > Hi Ian! > The Tesco site can be navigated ok with vo! > I think you can pick to go screen reader as well! > Although I think vo could handle it anyway! > hth Colin > Qapla! > > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > On 10 Feb 2011, at 09:13, Ian Robinson wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I use Tesco on-line for my grocery shopping and am wondering how useable >> it is with the Mac. >> >> Cheers. >> >> Ian >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Feb 12 14:38:08 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:38:08 +0000 Subject: Tesco In-Reply-To: References: <8518D326D4A0484AA286612869218E43@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: I am on a iMac with the full size keyboard (the one that comes with a keypad) and there is a control key on the right hand side on this model. On 12 Feb 2011, at 13:52, Ian Robinson wrote: > Thanks Andrea, > > I guess it depends on your needs. I want to be able to use the Mac anywhere around the house, so the MacBook was the best option for me. Incidentally, I noticed that none of the Macs have a control key on the right hand side. This is a shame as the key is used for VoiceOver commands. I checked the MacBook, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro and the Bluetooth keyboard that comes with the IMac. Not sure about the wired keyboard as one wasn't available. Essentially, all the keyboards are the same. > > Cheers. Ian > > > -----Original Message----- From: Andrea Breier > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 3:36 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Tesco > > Good luck and congratulations! I so am read to get a Mac. I can't decide > which kind to buy. the iMac or the one you got. > Hugs, Andrea M Breier > > Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! > Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to > God > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Robinson" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:48 PM > Subject: Re: Tesco > > >> Thanks for all the replies. >> >> I went out this afternoon and bought a MacBook! What a lovely piece of equipment. Now all I have to do is ditch 20 years of PC knowledge and start again! >> >> Cheers. Ian >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Colin M >> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:18 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Cc: Colin M >> Subject: Re: Tesco >> >> Hi Ian! >> The Tesco site can be navigated ok with vo! >> I think you can pick to go screen reader as well! >> Although I think vo could handle it anyway! >> hth Colin >> Qapla! >> >> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak >> >> On 10 Feb 2011, at 09:13, Ian Robinson wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I use Tesco on-line for my grocery shopping and am wondering how useable it is with the Mac. >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> Ian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sat Feb 12 15:52:35 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:52:35 +0000 Subject: mail boxes. In-Reply-To: <596AC0D6-F0DF-45C8-ABFF-A313C8F11C7F@googlemail.com> References: <7C573027-BB69-42EF-B093-D1E86FEE5225@googlemail.com> <596AC0D6-F0DF-45C8-ABFF-A313C8F11C7F@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <03246F19-EE19-434E-99B6-696A54409977@googlemail.com> i worked it out by going in to the view menu it is command shift m. Ian McNamara From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sat Feb 12 16:31:54 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:31:54 +0100 Subject: Adding attributes to the left, center and right parts of a header In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7126BDAD-C8D0-49C5-90F1-6B9540F4E105@anarchie.org.uk> Hello James, Here's how to do what you want. Cheers, Anne To create three separate fields in the Heading area: You need to know the page size so that you can calculate where to put the Tab Stop; The standard width is 21 cm; The standard left and right margins are 2 cm; You can check these values by selecting Document in the Inspector; Interact with Heading area; Go to the Inspector; Select Text; Select Tabs; Navigate down past Tab Stops, past the table, then click the button Add Tab Stop; Return to the table and select the first entry; Press Return to make it editable, and enter the value 8.5 followed by Return; Stop interacting with the table and navigate right once and down once to Center Alignment; Click this and return to your document; Interact with the Header field and type the text you want on the left; Hit Tab and type the text you want in the centre; Hit Tab again and if you want the page number to be shown, type a hyphen, go to the Insert menu and select Page Number, then type another hyphen; Because you chose a Centre Tab, the central part of your heading will be centred. From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Feb 12 16:38:59 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:38:59 +0000 Subject: Adding attributes to the left, center and right parts of a header In-Reply-To: <7126BDAD-C8D0-49C5-90F1-6B9540F4E105@anarchie.org.uk> References: <7126BDAD-C8D0-49C5-90F1-6B9540F4E105@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Anne, Thanks very much for this. I'll be sure to keep this in my little box of tips and tricks. Tc:) James On 12 Feb 2011, at 16:31, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello James, > > Here's how to do what you want. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > To create three separate fields in the Heading area: > > You need to know the page size so that you can calculate where to put the Tab Stop; > The standard width is 21 cm; > The standard left and right margins are 2 cm; > You can check these values by selecting Document in the Inspector; > > Interact with Heading area; > Go to the Inspector; > Select Text; > Select Tabs; > Navigate down past Tab Stops, past the table, then click the button Add Tab Stop; > Return to the table and select the first entry; > Press Return to make it editable, and enter the value 8.5 followed by Return; > Stop interacting with the table and navigate right once and down once to Center Alignment; > Click this and return to your document; > Interact with the Header field and type the text you want on the left; > Hit Tab and type the text you want in the centre; > Hit Tab again and if you want the page number to be shown, type a hyphen, go to the Insert menu and select Page Number, then type another hyphen; > Because you chose a Centre Tab, the central part of your heading will be centred. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Sat Feb 12 19:16:40 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:16:40 +0000 Subject: battery life Message-ID: <89FFF475-B99D-41F3-8068-933B69377859@mac-access.org.uk> is there a way on the amc guys for me to find out how much battery life is let in my wireless keyboard? From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Feb 12 19:19:01 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:19:01 +0000 Subject: battery life In-Reply-To: <89FFF475-B99D-41F3-8068-933B69377859@mac-access.org.uk> References: <89FFF475-B99D-41F3-8068-933B69377859@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <6749D7D9-F844-467D-90EA-40604413E637@googlemail.com> HI Will, Yes there is, if you go to System Preferences, and then go to Keyboard and click on Keyboard Batteries Button, it will say how much battery life is available in your wireless keyboard (in a percentage). I hope this helps to solve your problem. Lewis. On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:16, William Lomas wrote: > is there a way on the amc guys for me to find out how much battery life is let in my wireless keyboard? > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk Sat Feb 12 19:24:48 2011 From: william.lomas at mac-access.org.uk (William Lomas) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:24:48 +0000 Subject: battery life In-Reply-To: <6749D7D9-F844-467D-90EA-40604413E637@googlemail.com> References: <89FFF475-B99D-41F3-8068-933B69377859@mac-access.org.uk> <6749D7D9-F844-467D-90EA-40604413E637@googlemail.com> Message-ID: genius cheers 95 percent after a week that's not bad On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:19, Lewis Crack wrote: > HI Will, > > Yes there is, if you go to System Preferences, and then go to Keyboard and click on Keyboard Batteries Button, it will say how much battery life is available in your wireless keyboard (in a percentage). > I hope this helps to solve your problem. > Lewis. > On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:16, William Lomas wrote: > >> is there a way on the amc guys for me to find out how much battery life is let in my wireless keyboard? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Feb 12 19:26:55 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:26:55 +0000 Subject: battery life In-Reply-To: References: <89FFF475-B99D-41F3-8068-933B69377859@mac-access.org.uk> <6749D7D9-F844-467D-90EA-40604413E637@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <5D8CA645-8742-45D6-8F14-6560AD255614@googlemail.com> No it isn't. Better than your last lot. :) Lewis. On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:24, William Lomas wrote: > genius cheers > 95 percent after a week that's not bad > > On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:19, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> HI Will, >> >> Yes there is, if you go to System Preferences, and then go to Keyboard and click on Keyboard Batteries Button, it will say how much battery life is available in your wireless keyboard (in a percentage). >> I hope this helps to solve your problem. >> Lewis. >> On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:16, William Lomas wrote: >> >>> is there a way on the amc guys for me to find out how much battery life is let in my wireless keyboard? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Feb 12 19:38:10 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:38:10 -0500 Subject: battery life In-Reply-To: References: <89FFF475-B99D-41F3-8068-933B69377859@mac-access.org.uk> <6749D7D9-F844-467D-90EA-40604413E637@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4129E086-A2E2-4139-B3E6-CCB6B3E1C0B9@gmail.com> Hi, Will this handy little trick of going to the system prefs work with any other bluetooth keyboard than the Apple bluetooth keyboard? Courtney On Feb 12, 2011, at 2:24 PM, William Lomas wrote: > genius cheers > 95 percent after a week that's not bad > > On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:19, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> HI Will, >> >> Yes there is, if you go to System Preferences, and then go to Keyboard and click on Keyboard Batteries Button, it will say how much battery life is available in your wireless keyboard (in a percentage). >> I hope this helps to solve your problem. >> Lewis. >> On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:16, William Lomas wrote: >> >>> is there a way on the amc guys for me to find out how much battery life is let in my wireless keyboard? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Feb 12 19:44:10 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:44:10 +0000 Subject: battery life In-Reply-To: <4129E086-A2E2-4139-B3E6-CCB6B3E1C0B9@gmail.com> References: <89FFF475-B99D-41F3-8068-933B69377859@mac-access.org.uk> <6749D7D9-F844-467D-90EA-40604413E637@googlemail.com> <4129E086-A2E2-4139-B3E6-CCB6B3E1C0B9@gmail.com> Message-ID: HI Courtney. I imagine so, but not entirely sure, as the Apple Keyboard is Bluetooth anyway. Lewis. On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Will this handy little trick of going to the system prefs work with any other bluetooth keyboard than the Apple bluetooth keyboard? > Courtney > > On Feb 12, 2011, at 2:24 PM, William Lomas wrote: > >> genius cheers >> 95 percent after a week that's not bad >> >> On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:19, Lewis Crack wrote: >> >>> HI Will, >>> >>> Yes there is, if you go to System Preferences, and then go to Keyboard and click on Keyboard Batteries Button, it will say how much battery life is available in your wireless keyboard (in a percentage). >>> I hope this helps to solve your problem. >>> Lewis. >>> On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:16, William Lomas wrote: >>> >>>> is there a way on the amc guys for me to find out how much battery life is let in my wireless keyboard? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Feb 12 19:45:22 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:45:22 -0500 Subject: battery life In-Reply-To: References: <89FFF475-B99D-41F3-8068-933B69377859@mac-access.org.uk> <6749D7D9-F844-467D-90EA-40604413E637@googlemail.com> <4129E086-A2E2-4139-B3E6-CCB6B3E1C0B9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <73540F56-5C6E-4624-8A25-0D9E1673B8A5@gmail.com> Hi, I'll try it tonight and let you know. Courtney On Feb 12, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > HI Courtney. > > I imagine so, but not entirely sure, as the Apple Keyboard is Bluetooth anyway. > Lewis. > On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> Will this handy little trick of going to the system prefs work with any other bluetooth keyboard than the Apple bluetooth keyboard? >> Courtney >> >> On Feb 12, 2011, at 2:24 PM, William Lomas wrote: >> >>> genius cheers >>> 95 percent after a week that's not bad >>> >>> On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:19, Lewis Crack wrote: >>> >>>> HI Will, >>>> >>>> Yes there is, if you go to System Preferences, and then go to Keyboard and click on Keyboard Batteries Button, it will say how much battery life is available in your wireless keyboard (in a percentage). >>>> I hope this helps to solve your problem. >>>> Lewis. >>>> On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:16, William Lomas wrote: >>>> >>>>> is there a way on the amc guys for me to find out how much battery life is let in my wireless keyboard? >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Feb 12 19:46:25 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:46:25 +0000 Subject: battery life In-Reply-To: <89FFF475-B99D-41F3-8068-933B69377859@mac-access.org.uk> References: <89FFF475-B99D-41F3-8068-933B69377859@mac-access.org.uk> Message-ID: <7D144EAC-4346-4E4C-97B1-B0974B8CBB0C@mac-access.net> hello William On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:16, William Lomas wrote: > ? is there a way on the amc guys for me to find out how much battery life is let in my wireless keyboard? > No, I don't think this is possible. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Feb 12 19:48:04 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:48:04 +0000 Subject: battery life In-Reply-To: <6749D7D9-F844-467D-90EA-40604413E637@googlemail.com> References: <89FFF475-B99D-41F3-8068-933B69377859@mac-access.org.uk> <6749D7D9-F844-467D-90EA-40604413E637@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <26054408-C40A-405C-BFF9-914F2605DD0E@mac-access.net> hello Lewis & William On 12 Feb 2011, at 19:19, Lewis Crack wrote: > ? Yes there is, if you go to System Preferences, and then go to Keyboard and click on Keyboard Batteries Button, it will say how much battery life is available in your wireless keyboard (in a percentage). Oopse! Sorry about that William; I didn't know that! Thank you Lewis for the heads up; you live and learn. Lynne From moriond at mac.com Sat Feb 12 21:53:45 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:53:45 -1000 Subject: battery life In-Reply-To: <73540F56-5C6E-4624-8A25-0D9E1673B8A5@gmail.com> References: <89FFF475-B99D-41F3-8068-933B69377859@mac-access.org.uk> <6749D7D9-F844-467D-90EA-40604413E637@googlemail.com> <4129E086-A2E2-4139-B3E6-CCB6B3E1C0B9@gmail.com> <73540F56-5C6E-4624-8A25-0D9E1673B8A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Courtney, Lewis, and Others, Courtney asked: >>> >>> Will this handy little trick of going to the system prefs work with any other bluetooth keyboard than the Apple bluetooth keyboard? Going to System Preferences > Keyboard and clicking on the Keyboard Batteries button on the Keyboard pane to check for battery life in your connected Apple Wireless Keyboard may only work for the Apple Bluetooth keyboards. At least, my Think Outside Stowaway keyboards won't bring up such a button when they are paired with my Mac -- only the Apple Wireless Keyboard does that. It's possible that other, newer Bluetooth keyboards may activate this battery checking feature, but I rather suspect that it is specific to the Apple Wireless Keyboard. Also, a general tip for Bluetooth keyboard users that I got from Scott Howell, if you want to check whether the keyboard is turned on or not, press the Caps lock button and listen for "Caps lock on" (or "off" as the case may be.) Cheers, Esther From abreier at kc.rr.com Sun Feb 13 01:10:30 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:10:30 -0600 Subject: Tesco References: <8518D326D4A0484AA286612869218E43@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: This keyboard isn't wireless right? Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Tesco >I am on a iMac with the full size keyboard (the one that comes with a >keypad) and there is a control key on the right hand side on this model. > On 12 Feb 2011, at 13:52, Ian Robinson wrote: > >> Thanks Andrea, >> >> I guess it depends on your needs. I want to be able to use the Mac >> anywhere around the house, so the MacBook was the best option for me. >> Incidentally, I noticed that none of the Macs have a control key on the >> right hand side. This is a shame as the key is used for VoiceOver >> commands. I checked the MacBook, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro and the >> Bluetooth keyboard that comes with the IMac. Not sure about the wired >> keyboard as one wasn't available. Essentially, all the keyboards are the >> same. >> >> Cheers. Ian >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Andrea Breier >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 3:36 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Tesco >> >> Good luck and congratulations! I so am read to get a Mac. I can't >> decide >> which kind to buy. the iMac or the one you got. >> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >> >> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of >> yours! >> Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to >> God >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Robinson" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:48 PM >> Subject: Re: Tesco >> >> >>> Thanks for all the replies. >>> >>> I went out this afternoon and bought a MacBook! What a lovely piece of >>> equipment. Now all I have to do is ditch 20 years of PC knowledge and >>> start again! >>> >>> Cheers. Ian >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Colin M >>> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:18 AM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Cc: Colin M >>> Subject: Re: Tesco >>> >>> Hi Ian! >>> The Tesco site can be navigated ok with vo! >>> I think you can pick to go screen reader as well! >>> Although I think vo could handle it anyway! >>> hth Colin >>> Qapla! >>> >>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak >>> >>> On 10 Feb 2011, at 09:13, Ian Robinson wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I use Tesco on-line for my grocery shopping and am wondering how >>>> useable it is with the Mac. >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 13 06:42:33 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:42:33 -0800 Subject: March 1st as Possible Date for New MacBook Pros? Message-ID: What will the new mac book pros include? will they loose there sata hard drives and go the way of the MBAir? read more: http://bit.ly/gtgDFf From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 13 06:45:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:45:19 -0800 Subject: Apple Acquiring iOS Developer to Revamp Notification System? Message-ID: What will we see when apple revamps its push notification system? http://bit.ly/g0AYTX From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 13 06:48:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:48:12 -0800 Subject: Sony Hoping to Pull Music From iTunes Store If 'Music Unlimited' Service Succeeds Message-ID: <153F527F-F441-472A-9520-A342040ABF2D@gmail.com> Is soni making a mistake if it pulls all of its music from the itunes store? http://bit.ly/faKRD2 From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 13 16:11:55 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:11:55 +0000 Subject: iPad; Dane & Time Message-ID: Hello everybody Does anybody know whether there is a way to pre-configure the time server that is used by the iPad when it automatically sets date & time settings via the Internet? I can't see anything under Settings>Date & Time regarding this. If I toggle "Automatic" to , all I see is time zone, set date and time and nothing else. If "Automatic" is turned on, nothing else is available. This is very strange if Apple has opted to hard-wire the settings into iOS, as there may be more appropriate servers for one to use, as is the case with us. Gordon and I operate our own NTP server which, actually, we are going to move to the Mac-Access.net domain very shortly. We would have preferred to use our own GPS satellite coordinated server to more accurately synchronise our iOS devices, as we do our Mac OSX machines. Anybody else is also welcome to use our server, by the way, which is a standard NTP time source which can handle both unsecured and secured NTP and NTPD clients. Currently it is running under ntp.tft-bbs.co.uk but will soon be under mac-access.net. Anyway, I'm babbling. Lynne From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Sun Feb 13 16:39:01 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:39:01 -0500 Subject: number of items in playlists do not match Message-ID: <2DAECDA8-FBCA-424A-9889-20211F9FE426@gmail.com> Hello, everyone, I have several playlists in iTunes, some of which are synced to my ipod touch. The number of songs in one of the playlists on my computer, and the number of songs in the same playlist on my touch, do not match. I would like to know if anyone else has had or is having this same issue, and how to fix the discrepancy. Thanks! Marcy From opensesame at me.com Sun Feb 13 17:18:37 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:18:37 -0500 Subject: iPad; Dane & Time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Lynne, You wrote: > Does anybody know whether there is a way to pre-configure the time server that is used by the iPad when it automatically sets date & time settings via the Internet? I can't see anything under Settings>Date & Time regarding this. If I I don't think there currently is. While my ipad 3g keeps perfect time when the cellular option is turned on, I noticed a slight difference in time when 3g was turned off and my connection was none or wi-fi only for a few weeks last month. I looked into pointing to an NTP server and was also stonewalled. You may have already seen the following TUAW / Engadget article, but if not it's worth a read including some of the feedback in the comments section, which seem to point to timekeeping issues with some i-touches and wi-fi ipads. http://www.tuaw.com/2010/12/21/setting-your-ipad-to-the-correct-time-may-be-harder-than-you-thi/ HTH, Bryan From simoncavendish at me.com Sun Feb 13 17:20:05 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:20:05 +0000 Subject: number of items in playlists do not match In-Reply-To: <2DAECDA8-FBCA-424A-9889-20211F9FE426@gmail.com> References: <2DAECDA8-FBCA-424A-9889-20211F9FE426@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0399F767-1986-4D86-81DF-49139D4117F6@me.com> Might you have duplicates in your PC playlist? You can reveal duplicates in your playlist - there is a command somewhere in menus to do so. Simon On 13 Feb 2011, at 16:39, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Hello, everyone, > > I have several playlists in iTunes, some of which are synced to my ipod touch. > > The number of songs in one of the playlists on my computer, and the number of songs in the same playlist on my touch, do not match. > > I would like to know if anyone else has had or is having this same issue, and how to fix the discrepancy. > > Thanks! > > Marcy > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Sun Feb 13 17:37:51 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:37:51 +0000 Subject: Service Reminder; Please Read! Message-ID: <1EA128B8-0B4C-41FD-9F15-91752A86FEEA@mac-access.net> Hello Firstly, this post is being sent to all of our groups so, if you receive it in multiple mailboxes, we apologise. But the information herein is something which everybody who uses our services, directly or indirectly, needs to know. So, if you read this message, it might avoid the need for questions later. If, however, you do still have questions, please don't hesitate to contact us off list. We won't be answering questions off list as it would be off topic. You can reach us at . The coming week is a big week for us here in terms of the services which we provide to our clients, and the lists which we host for our group members. On Thursday of this week, (17 February), we will be discontinuing the service we have with our current connectivity provider and switching to a new one which offers us better speeds and better technical resources. This is the second such switch, although the first did not impact on any of our services except for secondary ones which nobody even noticed were changing. However, this coming week sees the switch-over of our primary service network to the new provider and, subsequently, it is inevitable that our primary services will go off line for a time during the switch-over. The issue is further complicated by the fact that it is not possible to port one's IP addresses when changing providers. Because of this, we need to completely re-map everything in DNS, and have it propagate the Internet before services all return to normal. Usually, propagation takes a couple of hours at most; the days of 24-hours change-over are long gone, though some providers will still advertise that kind of time scale to cover their backs. We do not know what time our services will stop on Thursday; it could be any time between 08:00 and 20:00 UTC. You can rest assured that we will be monitoring the activity constantly throughout that day and, as soon as things begin to change, we will start working on the DNS side of things; which we control ourselves. We already know the new IP addresses we will be allocated, so we can prepare in advance for the new service as soon as the old one goes down. Hopefully, therefore, the transition will be relatively smooth; but we can't vouch for the behaviour of external organisations. Therefore, in advance, we apologise for any short term inconvenience that the outage may create for you. We ask you to bear in mind, however, that the long-term benefits will make the short-term inconvenience worthwhile. As far as our email services are concerned, we already have in place robust and reliable MX backup servers which are located off-site. Those servers will accept mail destined for any of our domains. The inbound mail will be held for delivery until our primary services come back on stream. Once that happens, the mail will be bulk sent to us, and we will despatch it to its recipients as usual. Our file manager will not be affected by this outage, as it resides on the other network trunk and, therefore, has already been moved to its new home. We hope to be able to minimise the outage further by temporarily re-locating our websites on to the secondary network. That will allow all web content to continue to be served even though the primary servers are down. We will advise those affected by this particular issue in a separate email later in the week as to status. So, to summarise; the most affected services will be mail, NTP, primary DNS services and, possibly, website access. Once again we apologise in advance for any short term inconvenience which this may cause. It is strictly a one-off event which has been planned for several months. We have simply been awaiting the availability of the technical resources which we required at the new connectivity provider's hubs. Those are now in place, so we are keen to go ahead with the switch in order that we ourselves can expand and reorganise our own services and facilities. When the switch-over is complete, we will have a total of 32 public IP addresses available to us on 2 separate class C networks. This is an important factor as we have several exciting new changes in the pipeline which we will now be able to bring on stream. As always, let me also assure you that our visually impaired clients will remain exempted from any service or hosting charges. We hope to be able to improve still further on the services we offer to our clients in the coming weeks, now that we have a bit of leg-room and a useable IP4 array at our disposal. Once of the first upcoming services will be a VPN, which will allow our clients to log in even more securely to retrieve mail and do other things. More about this later. Once again if you have any comments or questions regarding the above, please feel free to contact us at the support address, and we will be happy to address them for you. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 13 19:49:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:49:50 -0800 Subject: Apple Working on Cheaper, Smaller iPhone and MobileMe Overhaul Message-ID: <4F95F086-1DD3-4F65-BBD5-7FC7C471560E@gmail.com> Probably not this summer but what will this mean for us accessibility wise? http://bit.ly/fRud8I From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 13 20:08:41 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:08:41 +0000 Subject: iPad; Dane & Time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9E3C9BB0-62CF-4915-BE74-744FFA759E37@mac-access.net> Hello Bryan Thank you for the response. Ours is the 3G model also. We have 3G active all the time, and Gordon said to me earlier that he thought it would probably take its time settings from the 3G network. But is there any option you can check to see if this is actually the case and is there any way you can have VoiceOver read the time out, so we can see how accurate or otherwise ours is? I know you can go to the status bar, and I can see the time visually. But it would be good for Gordon if he could also perform these checks. Thank you again very much; and I will go and read that article. Lynne From opensesame at me.com Sun Feb 13 22:09:48 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:09:48 -0500 Subject: iPad; Dane & Time In-Reply-To: <9E3C9BB0-62CF-4915-BE74-744FFA759E37@mac-access.net> References: <9E3C9BB0-62CF-4915-BE74-744FFA759E37@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9A03462E-AD53-427C-BD7E-3638FF689D75@me.com> Hi Lynne, I have a free universal App named "iHome+Sleep" on my ipad. While I don't consider it to be the greatest or most accessible App, it does some things I like and one of them is it will speak the time at the "top" of each minute if I leave the VO cursor sitting on the App's clock display. This, of corse, means you can't be doing anything else on the ipad at that time, so I imagine there must be better options out there, but I haven't really looked. Another caveat is I've not found a way to make it also announce seconds. Not sure if the App is available in the UK, but here's the US store link as a starter, or try searching "ihome sleep." http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ihome-sleep-alarm-clock-app/id346249053?mt=8 HTH, Bryan From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 13 22:11:56 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:11:56 -1000 Subject: DVDRemaster Pro on sale at 50% for next 7 hours Message-ID: Hello All, Apologies for the late notice, but a query about accessible DVD extraction programs on another list reminded me that DVDRemaster Pro, the accessible program that allows you to extract content from your DVDs, is on sale at the MacUpdate Promo site for the next 7 hours for half price ($24.50). I believe that it should be continue to be available for the week following this sale at the still-discounted price of $37.50. While Handbrake is a solution that some will use, the main advantages of DVDRemaster Pro are its speed (typically 3 times faster, according to the reviews that I've read), and additional features. The product was fairly accessible to start off with, and Gordon spent some time working with the developer to improve the experience for VoiceOver users. Metakine lets you download a fully functional trial version of the program if you want to check this out. You can also read the user reviews at the MacUpdate Promo site: http://www.mupromo.com Purchasing from the MacUpdate Promo site requires creating an account, which entails a one-time negotiation of a CAPTCHA. Following that, your login to your account gives you access to past receipts of your purchases with serial numbers and download links to the most recent version of the software. The occasion for the current promo is the release of version 7.0 of the DVDRemaster program. As Lynne posted a few days earlier, this may not be a necessary update for current owners of version 6, since the big addition is software subtitling, but this is a good opportunity for new owners of the Apple TV to buy this software. There are links to the trial download software and to the developer's page from the mupromo web page, but here's the direct link to the product page at Metakine: http://www.metakine.com/products/dvdremaster/ HTH. Cheers, Esther From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 13 23:15:54 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:15:54 +0000 Subject: iPad; Dane & Time In-Reply-To: <9A03462E-AD53-427C-BD7E-3638FF689D75@me.com> References: <9E3C9BB0-62CF-4915-BE74-744FFA759E37@mac-access.net> <9A03462E-AD53-427C-BD7E-3638FF689D75@me.com> Message-ID: Hello Bryan Thank you; I will check this out and also look to see if there are other options. Obviously, Gordon and I try to share the iPad and use it in a way that suits us both. So I am careful to only install apps which I know are accessible even though I could use them without VO. Thank you again. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 20:15:26 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:15:26 -0800 Subject: Free Access to 'The Daily' Extended to February 28th as Wait for iOS 4.3 Continues Message-ID: what will this mean to readers of "the daily?" read on. http://bit.ly/fGJvnA From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 20:17:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:17:57 -0800 Subject: MobileMe Revamp to Focus on Streaming Data From Individual Machines, Not Cloud? Message-ID: <9E4206BE-B78D-4493-94F1-7D853883DBCF@gmail.com> Here is one person's theory on how the new mobile me if it comes out will work. How much will this cost the end user? we don't know but read on. it seems interesting to me. http://bit.ly/gtuvJr From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 22:48:15 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:48:15 -0600 Subject: iOS VoiceOver podcast: Safari - Web Rotor and CourseSmart Message-ID: iOS VoiceOver podcast: Safari - Web Rotor and CourseSmart: http://kevinchao.podbean.com In this podcast, I explain/demonstrate Safari: * Web Rotor: Heading, Links, and Form fields * On CourseSmart, now and future of accessible eTextBooks for all, half price, largest collection and world's leader, any platform, any screen reader Thanks, Kevin From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Feb 14 23:13:34 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:13:34 +0000 Subject: iOS VoiceOver podcast: Safari - Web Rotor and CourseSmart In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00D2BB34-C75A-4A15-AD1D-0C61094C726B@mac-access.net> Thanks for this Kevin, I'll check this out. On 14 Feb 2011, at 22:48, Kevin Chao wrote: > iOS VoiceOver podcast: Safari - Web Rotor and CourseSmart: > http://kevinchao.podbean.com > In this podcast, I explain/demonstrate Safari: > * Web Rotor: Heading, Links, and Form fields > * On CourseSmart, now and future of accessible eTextBooks for all, > half price, largest collection and world's leader, any platform, any > screen reader > > Thanks, > > Kevin > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Mon Feb 14 23:14:18 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:14:18 +0000 Subject: Reminder; Multiple Message Destinations Message-ID: <199AE521-19C0-4D69-B024-B9A770B503E1@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Could I ask people again please to not send forwarded or carbon copied or multiple destination messages to this group. This is a tactic which is commonly used by spammers, sending messages with implicit rather than explicit destinations. RFC guidelines decree that public E-mail forums, (such as Mac Access), should be configured to reject, refuse all such messages. Currently, we have the list set to forward us a moderator request. But, unfortunately, we are going to have to change this behaviour it seems, so that messages with implicit destinations are automatically rejected by the server. This is causing us a lot of unnecessary work, and inconvenience. This is our last request on this subject; and we're only posting it now because we know we have acquired a number of new members recently. So; let me spell it out one more time, and old hands please accept my apologies for the necessity to do so. This will be the final time. Please do not send messages to this group which are carbon copies, have multiple destinations in the to: field, or are forwarded messages intended for other groups. If you wish to post the same message to this group as others, please do so with our prior consent. There are several reasons for this policy: 1. We don't want Mac Access to become a dumping ground for messages written for other groups. 2. We need to preserve our own unique identity; we don't want to become an extension of Mac Visionaries or any other group. 3. We don't want to lose members because they are seeing the same posts on multiple lists and consider membership of this one a waste of time as a result. If the implicit destination problem hits us again, we will be changing our policy of manually approving messages from known list members to automatically rejecting the messages, regardless of source. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. This is the final time we will be posting this request to the group. If you wish to discuss this for any reason, please use the support address rather than the group; and we will be happy to help. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 15 02:29:20 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:29:20 -0800 Subject: iOS VoiceOver podcast: Safari - Web Rotor and CourseSmart In-Reply-To: <00D2BB34-C75A-4A15-AD1D-0C61094C726B@mac-access.net> References: <00D2BB34-C75A-4A15-AD1D-0C61094C726B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <59BF97FC-6426-4B1E-BE66-BE7D75054552@gmail.com> that rotor can save your behind at times. I use it on http://m.facebook.com. Take care. S On Feb 14, 2011, at 3:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Thanks for this Kevin, I'll check this out. > On 14 Feb 2011, at 22:48, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> iOS VoiceOver podcast: Safari - Web Rotor and CourseSmart: >> http://kevinchao.podbean.com >> In this podcast, I explain/demonstrate Safari: >> * Web Rotor: Heading, Links, and Form fields >> * On CourseSmart, now and future of accessible eTextBooks for all, >> half price, largest collection and world's leader, any platform, any >> screen reader >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 15 03:39:20 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:39:20 -0800 Subject: to many redirects? In-Reply-To: <05E88704-E718-47B0-8071-B5BA3CDD8C0C@mac-access.net> References: <05E88704-E718-47B0-8071-B5BA3CDD8C0C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Actuallly I'm having the same trouble I enter in my password and it says safari cannot open the page. I think someting is seriously wrong here. s On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:02 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Have you tried tricking the site into thinking that you're using another Web Browser? To do this: > > 1. Under the Advanced tab of Safari Preferences, you'll find a check box which says "show DEvelop menu in menu bar" > 2. After you've checked this box, go to the menu bar and under the "Develop" menu you'll find an option called "User Agent". > 3. Select the new WB you want to use. > > This doesn't always work, but it might help. > > Alternatively, you could try registering using the latest WebKit build > > HTH > TC :) > James > On 9 Feb 2011, at 00:23, William Lomas wrote: > >> hi all, I am trying to register with the fusion site, but safari can't open the page as to many redirects. anyone else had this at all? >> Thanks, WIll >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 15 03:41:30 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:41:30 -0800 Subject: to many redirects? In-Reply-To: <05E88704-E718-47B0-8071-B5BA3CDD8C0C@mac-access.net> References: <05E88704-E718-47B0-8071-B5BA3CDD8C0C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Oha nd I did register using the latet webkit build and still no go. I tried using safari mobil and firefox for windows. I think the web devs need to look at this as I would not think I'm thei only one having the proglem. S On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:02 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Have you tried tricking the site into thinking that you're using another Web Browser? To do this: > > 1. Under the Advanced tab of Safari Preferences, you'll find a check box which says "show DEvelop menu in menu bar" > 2. After you've checked this box, go to the menu bar and under the "Develop" menu you'll find an option called "User Agent". > 3. Select the new WB you want to use. > > This doesn't always work, but it might help. > > Alternatively, you could try registering using the latest WebKit build > > HTH > TC :) > James > On 9 Feb 2011, at 00:23, William Lomas wrote: > >> hi all, I am trying to register with the fusion site, but safari can't open the page as to many redirects. anyone else had this at all? >> Thanks, WIll >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 15 04:26:02 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:26:02 -0800 Subject: to many redirects? In-Reply-To: <05E88704-E718-47B0-8071-B5BA3CDD8C0C@mac-access.net> References: <05E88704-E718-47B0-8071-B5BA3CDD8C0C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Ok to follow up I tired it in anothe rplatform, 2 of them actually and got this oddish message. The VMware Accounts portal encountered an error while processing your request. We're sorry for the inconvenience. If you choose to report this error, please provide the following error information: Error code: BE73 Error date: Mon Feb 14 20:08:28 PST 2011 Err 4 user: Not logged in Exception: so how am I to activate my account and download the thing if I can't even get this far? HOpe the devs get the sight fixed. S On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:02 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Have you tried tricking the site into thinking that you're using another Web Browser? To do this: > > 1. Under the Advanced tab of Safari Preferences, you'll find a check box which says "show DEvelop menu in menu bar" > 2. After you've checked this box, go to the menu bar and under the "Develop" menu you'll find an option called "User Agent". > 3. Select the new WB you want to use. > > This doesn't always work, but it might help. > > Alternatively, you could try registering using the latest WebKit build > > HTH > TC :) > James > On 9 Feb 2011, at 00:23, William Lomas wrote: > >> hi all, I am trying to register with the fusion site, but safari can't open the page as to many redirects. anyone else had this at all? >> Thanks, WIll >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simoncavendish at me.com Tue Feb 15 12:47:26 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:47:26 +0000 Subject: My domain with mac-access Message-ID: <859101ED-71B9-475F-B5D5-858551CFE1FD@me.com> Dear Listers, For many years, I have had my own domain and a small website with a large web hosting company. A few months ago, I had to terminate my account with them because of a more than 100% increase in their annual hosting charges and a clear intention, in my mind, to rid themselves of small business websites. Recently, having found out more about the services mac-access can offer - I have decided to move my domain to mac-access as well as my personal and work related e-mail addresses. The whole process was unusually smooth and, with Gordon and Lynne's patient guidance - I have now got my new domain (scavendish.co.uk) and a number of related e-mail addresses. I must confess that - having dealt with a large web hosting company on several occasions - I couldn't but feel relieved at having a chance to deal with somebody who actually was a real person. Normally, you have to raise so called queries, and then you communicate with a number of individuals who just read your notes and often are disinterested in you, you feel as if you are talking to a faceless machine that just wants your money. My experience wwith mac-access couldn't have been more to the contrary. The timely pace of the necessary information exchange, the personal and personable care and their attention in guiding me through the configuration steps, the willingness to iron out any arising glitches: these are all the bonuses of dealing with mac-access. The service provided by mac-access is also extremely good value for money, and for us as visually impaired people whose incomes are hard won and often on the basis of self-employment, it is very helpful to deal with the company that does not think only of their profits but has a personal understanding of the barriers people with vision loss grapple with. As a result, very shortly, my subscription e-mail address is going to change to simon at scavendish.co.uk instead of my present one. I will not disappear from the list but the only change will be my contact e-mail address. Thank you, Mac-Access team! Simon Cavendish From tsiegel at softcon.com Tue Feb 15 13:56:53 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 07:56:53 -0600 Subject: Npad, thought some here could use it Message-ID: <004AF80B-D85C-4AF0-BBB0-829368A11456@softcon.com> N-Pad 1.1 -------------- next part -------------- About N-Pad Can read multiple file formats including doc, docx, txt, rtf & .npad. It also comes with an in built web browser which will give users fast and instant access to the web to do their research. Read More... From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Feb 15 15:46:36 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:46:36 +0000 Subject: itunes problem Message-ID: <7E9A54C6-5BA1-4778-BA4B-4954783486A1@virginmedia.com> Hi all just a general question has anyone in had problems getting onto itunes today i managed to earlier but cant now from my iphone or imac any help ??? maybe its busy but voice over isn't saying anything like that so bit baffled any suggestions thanks jules From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Feb 15 15:52:14 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:52:14 +0000 Subject: itunes problem In-Reply-To: <7E9A54C6-5BA1-4778-BA4B-4954783486A1@virginmedia.com> References: <7E9A54C6-5BA1-4778-BA4B-4954783486A1@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <0F66DFD7-1AE7-4BF3-A52B-BA82A2D06BD3@googlemail.com> not sure what that could be, it's been working fine for me smiley. From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Feb 15 16:13:43 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:13:43 +0000 Subject: itunes problem In-Reply-To: <0F66DFD7-1AE7-4BF3-A52B-BA82A2D06BD3@googlemail.com> References: <7E9A54C6-5BA1-4778-BA4B-4954783486A1@virginmedia.com> <0F66DFD7-1AE7-4BF3-A52B-BA82A2D06BD3@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <8492762B-C5D0-45D8-BB28-E75C0D34FA91@virginmedia.com> hi all its ok now thanks On 15 Feb 2011, at 15:52, Ian McNamara wrote: > not sure what that could be, it's been working fine for me smiley. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Tue Feb 15 21:23:56 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:23:56 -0500 Subject: Creating an apple script to perform actions in sling player? Message-ID: <994B0EB1-3DAB-4E5C-BDD3-A5CB8E30901E@gmail.com> Hi, Does anybody know if I can create an apple script to turn the channels in the Sling Player for mac? For example, if I'm not home and there's something I really want to watch on TV, is there a way to make the sling player turn to that channel so Audiohijack can record it for later playback? Courtney P.s. I've never created an apple script before, so can someone please give me directions if there is in fact a script to suit my needs? From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Tue Feb 15 22:42:12 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:42:12 +0000 Subject: itunes problem In-Reply-To: <0F66DFD7-1AE7-4BF3-A52B-BA82A2D06BD3@googlemail.com> References: <7E9A54C6-5BA1-4778-BA4B-4954783486A1@virginmedia.com> <0F66DFD7-1AE7-4BF3-A52B-BA82A2D06BD3@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jule,s Same here. Lewis. :) On 15 Feb 2011, at 15:52, Ian McNamara wrote: > not sure what that could be, it's been working fine for me smiley. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Wed Feb 16 00:08:47 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 00:08:47 +0000 Subject: itunes problem In-Reply-To: References: <7E9A54C6-5BA1-4778-BA4B-4954783486A1@virginmedia.com> <0F66DFD7-1AE7-4BF3-A52B-BA82A2D06BD3@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <7A52AFD9-98D5-42F2-84B6-49869C82B8D0@virginmedia.com> lewis its all ok now phew smiley but thanks On 15 Feb 2011, at 22:42, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Jule,s > Same here. > Lewis. :) > On 15 Feb 2011, at 15:52, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> not sure what that could be, it's been working fine for me smiley. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Wed Feb 16 01:35:19 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:35:19 +0000 Subject: itunes problem In-Reply-To: <7A52AFD9-98D5-42F2-84B6-49869C82B8D0@virginmedia.com> References: <7E9A54C6-5BA1-4778-BA4B-4954783486A1@virginmedia.com> <0F66DFD7-1AE7-4BF3-A52B-BA82A2D06BD3@googlemail.com> <7A52AFD9-98D5-42F2-84B6-49869C82B8D0@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <49D614BB-03E9-4E36-A9EF-DDAF84524471@googlemail.com> Hey Jules. That's good, and no problem. Lewis. :) On 16 Feb 2011, at 00:08, Julie Vaughan wrote: > lewis its all ok now phew smiley > > but thanks > On 15 Feb 2011, at 22:42, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> Hi Jule,s >> Same here. >> Lewis. :) >> On 15 Feb 2011, at 15:52, Ian McNamara wrote: >> >>> not sure what that could be, it's been working fine for me smiley. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 06:34:45 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:34:45 -0800 Subject: to many redirects? In-Reply-To: <05E88704-E718-47B0-8071-B5BA3CDD8C0C@mac-access.net> References: <05E88704-E718-47B0-8071-B5BA3CDD8C0C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <05F6E739-43CC-4BEC-9E98-60B7CDBBC2BC@gmail.com> Well to follow up I looked at vmware's contact page and i have to pay if I want to use there tech support and I also have to look and give them my customer number over the phone. I don't mind that but I don't want to pay per incident if it is will be just this one time and if it is a problem with there site. I don't want to buy a product if it is not going to work right on my system. Yeah I can take advantage of hte student discount but ... and yes I'm sure that both of us who are having this problem on the list cleared our cash and cookies and history. lol! theI do that anyway. Hehaha! Take care all and hopefully someone can give some other suggestions. On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:02 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Have you tried tricking the site into thinking that you're using another Web Browser? To do this: > > 1. Under the Advanced tab of Safari Preferences, you'll find a check box which says "show DEvelop menu in menu bar" > 2. After you've checked this box, go to the menu bar and under the "Develop" menu you'll find an option called "User Agent". > 3. Select the new WB you want to use. > > This doesn't always work, but it might help. > > Alternatively, you could try registering using the latest WebKit build > > HTH > TC :) > James > On 9 Feb 2011, at 00:23, William Lomas wrote: > >> hi all, I am trying to register with the fusion site, but safari can't open the page as to many redirects. anyone else had this at all? >> Thanks, WIll >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 08:13:12 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:13:12 +0000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! Message-ID: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> Hello everybody For some time, Gordon and i have been contemplating a number of ways in which to enhance the Mac Access email list. The first idea which has been running around in our heads and in our lounge relaxation time together has been a weblog, dedicated to Mac Access. yes; we know it's been done elsewhere. But that's no reason why we couldn't give it a go. After all, email lists exist elsewhere as well, but this one has already been proven to be a valuable and appreciated resource by our members. Thus, the Mac Access weblog begins. It may not stay at its current home, we would much prefer to host the thing ourselves and we will probably end up doing so eventually. However, for now, feel free to visit the new weblog and tell us what you think of the concept. You can find the weblog, (blob) here: We will obviously refine this, and we'll be speaking to a number of people who have already done what we are just starting out to do. But at least we are trying. So tell us what you think of the idea. We hope to post articles and reviews on this facility; so please feel free, if you have any, to let us know. Lynne From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Wed Feb 16 08:22:13 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:22:13 +0000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> Hello i think this is a good plan. starting a plog my self created it but not posted on it yet. Ian McNamara From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 10:05:29 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:05:29 +0000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> hello Ian On 16 Feb 2011, at 08:22, Ian McNamara wrote: ? Hello i think this is a good plan. starting a plog my self created it but not posted on it yet. Thank you. We are trying to make the blog look as professional as possible. So I have been tweaking the settings a little to customise and personalise it. For instance, you might have noticed that the domain is the same as our Twitter log-in. That was deliberate, we're trying to be consistent. I'm going to have to get a little artistic I think though. The graphics on the blog are not exactly what I call nice, neither are they at all personalised or relevant to the subject of the blog. But I reasoned that most users of this group won't be worried too much about that, it's more the text. In any event, we will try to develop the resource and, if we feel it's appropriate after the network changes I will set our long-suffering webmaster, hostmaster, postmaster, server master, administrator, systems engineer, call him what you will, to work with the task of developing our own blog engine. If that happens, I don't see why we cannot offer blogs to others for whom we host. But anyway, I appreciate your initial feedback Ian, and I suggest that a certain person who sent us a couple of articles a little while ago should have a look at the blog. I have just added another post. Lynne From a.beech at bigpond.net.au Wed Feb 16 10:28:44 2011 From: a.beech at bigpond.net.au (Adrian Beech) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:28:44 +1000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> G'day L&G, Just did the venture forth thing and tickled, cough, cough, IE with the URL and noticed that some of the burbalisations didn't quite come out sounding like English... could it have been graphics with lower case labellings which often trip screen readers up, at the best of times, perhaps? Also what are the rules, in/out scope, etc for this new forum? I like where you're heading re spreading the word using all possible/feasible interactive forums... hmmmmmm, though it might take a bit more to completely ween me off my main W7 system to a sole Mac environment -- even though I have a Mac Mini server approx 2 feet away from where I'm sitting, sigh, smile. Cheers. AB -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 8:05 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! hello Ian On 16 Feb 2011, at 08:22, Ian McNamara wrote: . Hello i think this is a good plan. starting a plog my self created it but not posted on it yet. Thank you. We are trying to make the blog look as professional as possible. So I have been tweaking the settings a little to customise and personalise it. For instance, you might have noticed that the domain is the same as our Twitter log-in. That was deliberate, we're trying to be consistent. I'm going to have to get a little artistic I think though. The graphics on the blog are not exactly what I call nice, neither are they at all personalised or relevant to the subject of the blog. But I reasoned that most users of this group won't be worried too much about that, it's more the text. In any event, we will try to develop the resource and, if we feel it's appropriate after the network changes I will set our long-suffering webmaster, hostmaster, postmaster, server master, administrator, systems engineer, call him what you will, to work with the task of developing our own blog engine. If that happens, I don't see why we cannot offer blogs to others for whom we host. But anyway, I appreciate your initial feedback Ian, and I suggest that a certain person who sent us a couple of articles a little while ago should have a look at the blog. I have just added another post. Lynne _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5878 (20110215) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 12:22:36 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:22:36 +0000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> Hello Ian I'm puzzled. What verbalisation isn't working? The graphics are only standard images not anything you wouldn't find on other websites. The test is plain English, no abbreviations such as people use in E-Mail. Could you be more spercific as to where you heard the problem? Just an observation. It sounds as though you're suffering from the same disease as many others have suffered from when swithing. Fear. Gordon On 16 Feb 2011, at 10:28, Adrian Beech wrote: G'day L&G, Just did the venture forth thing and tickled, cough, cough, IE with the URL and noticed that some of the burbalisations didn't quite come out sounding like English... could it have been graphics with lower case labellings which often trip screen readers up, at the best of times, perhaps? Also what are the rules, in/out scope, etc for this new forum? I like where you're heading re spreading the word using all possible/feasible interactive forums... hmmmmmm, though it might take a bit more to completely ween me off my main W7 system to a sole Mac environment -- even though I have a Mac Mini server approx 2 feet away from where I'm sitting, sigh, smile. Cheers. AB -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 8:05 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! hello Ian On 16 Feb 2011, at 08:22, Ian McNamara wrote: . Hello i think this is a good plan. starting a plog my self created it but not posted on it yet. Thank you. We are trying to make the blog look as professional as possible. So I have been tweaking the settings a little to customise and personalise it. For instance, you might have noticed that the domain is the same as our Twitter log-in. That was deliberate, we're trying to be consistent. I'm going to have to get a little artistic I think though. The graphics on the blog are not exactly what I call nice, neither are they at all personalised or relevant to the subject of the blog. But I reasoned that most users of this group won't be worried too much about that, it's more the text. In any event, we will try to develop the resource and, if we feel it's appropriate after the network changes I will set our long-suffering webmaster, hostmaster, postmaster, server master, administrator, systems engineer, call him what you will, to work with the task of developing our own blog engine. If that happens, I don't see why we cannot offer blogs to others for whom we host. But anyway, I appreciate your initial feedback Ian, and I suggest that a certain person who sent us a couple of articles a little while ago should have a look at the blog. I have just added another post. Lynne _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5878 (20110215) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 13:49:48 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:49:48 +0100 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8E7C7C9A-60FE-4A7A-8980-269E1C6E563D@gmail.com> Hi! I have to say that you guys rock. This is an absolutely fantastic initiative, and I support it all the way. :) Plus, you're using Wordpress. That counts, too. As for Ian, I really don't understand where this issue is, either. Hopefully, either Ian or Adrian can clue us in. :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Wed Feb 16 14:56:38 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:56:38 +0000 Subject: Getting VoiceOver to speak after recovery from sleep Message-ID: Hello, I have my iMac set to require a password after 60 minutes of inactivity or after 60 minutes of sleep. I have VoiceOver set to speak at logon time so that during a cold start VoiceOver speaks as I enter my password. Alas VoiceOver does not speak when I need to enter my password after inactivity or sleep. I thus have to enter my password blind. After entering the password then VoiceOver bursts into life. Is there any way to get VoiceOver to speak before the password is entered after inactivity or sleep? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 15:12:39 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:12:39 +0000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: <8E7C7C9A-60FE-4A7A-8980-269E1C6E563D@gmail.com> References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> <8E7C7C9A-60FE-4A7A-8980-269E1C6E563D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Nic On 16 Feb 2011, at 13:49, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: ? I have to say that you guys rock. This is an absolutely fantastic initiative, and I support it all the way. :) Thank you very much. Gordon has done a lot of work on this this morning and I have to say it looks really nice now. Considering he's blind, it's a remarkable achievement how he's cleaned up all the graphics and things to make it more speech-friendly. We have looked at using our own server but we're not sure it's really worth the extra work it will cause. We have our own domain, it looks fine as it it is. People can comment on the articles up there and so we may just leave it like this. It really depends on how things go. But we hae the blog now, that's what we wanted. But I'm proud of him, I really am! I started it off and then Gordon took up the challenge. ? Plus, you're using Wordpress. That counts, too. Why? They did let us do what we wanted so I opted to go that route. ?Do you think that is a good move? I looked at a few options but that seemed to be the best of them. ? As for Ian, I really don't understand where this issue is, either. Hopefully, either Ian or Adrian can clue us in. :) I've just tried it with VoiceOver and I can hear it perfectly. So I don't get the problem either. Lynne From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 15:27:49 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:27:49 +0100 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> <8E7C7C9A-60FE-4A7A-8980-269E1C6E563D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, Yes, definitely. Wordpress is an excellent solution, and has always worked really well with screen readers. Not only does it have a lot of customization, but I always found Wordpress superior because of all the plugins that it has. As the site grows and gets a lot more comments and posts, you may consider the WP Supercache Wordpress plugin. It can be retrieved from the official plugin site. It will allow cache files to be created and stored, allowing Wordpress to load faster. A much more in-depth description is on the official plugin webpage. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Wed Feb 16 15:45:37 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:45:37 +0000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: hi it worked ok for me well it sounded ok to me anyway. Ian McNamara From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 16:45:59 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:45:59 +0000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> <8E7C7C9A-60FE-4A7A-8980-269E1C6E563D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Nic I will top post here. We are looking at two solutions as a permanent fix. Either our own server, or we will go full on for the one we have. I've done a lot of work customising it today and so has Gordon. I have removed all of the graphic clutter which isn't needed, while leaving the site looking nice. So yes; I agree about the customisation. But we have to think of cost as well. We don't have a bottomless budget and we don't get any funding help from outside of our own wallet. :) So we'll have to give it some thought. But we do want to do this thing properly. Thank you for your input, it is appreciated. BTW, we have an add-frree blog, you may be pleased to know. Lynne On 16 Feb 2011, at 15:27, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > Yes, definitely. Wordpress is an excellent solution, and has always worked really well with screen readers. Not only does it have a lot of customization, but I always found Wordpress superior because of all the plugins that it has. > > As the site grows and gets a lot more comments and posts, you may consider the WP Supercache Wordpress plugin. It can be retrieved from the official plugin site. It will allow cache files to be created and stored, allowing Wordpress to load faster. A much more in-depth description is on the official plugin webpage. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 17:07:01 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:07:01 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <90A2D5C1-AA44-4F22-9C1F-0AE68E4044E6@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Jane, (I have no surname for her), to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 17:13:51 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:13:51 -0600 Subject: iWork Numbers: re-sizing column and moving/re-sizing chart Message-ID: <61A390AA-2CDD-4E97-B377-5BB5CBF81A53@gmail.com> Using VoiceOver and Numbers, how do I: * re-size column/cell width * move/re-size a chart Sent from my iPhone From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 17:19:42 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:19:42 +0100 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> <8E7C7C9A-60FE-4A7A-8980-269E1C6E563D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004E29ED-4B09-44BA-88CC-F5E06325DEBF@gmail.com> Hello Lynne, I'm definitely happy to hear it seems to be working out for you. :) Wordpress is a very nice tool, and I work with it myself on an every day basis along with a few other utilities like Drupal. I'd recommend a lot more utilities, plugins etc which may just help you achieve what you want, but that is probably a private matter which might be a little too off-topic for this list. Some of it costs a little, but most of it does not. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From support at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 18:48:00 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:48:00 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcomeq Message-ID: Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome col shawx to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Wed Feb 16 19:09:32 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:09:32 +0000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2359ACF9-8C2B-41DA-9D2B-C730CD3FECCA@gmail.com> Hi all! I had no problem either! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 16 Feb 2011, at 15:45, Ian McNamara wrote: > hi it worked ok for me well it sounded ok to me anyway. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Feb 16 22:11:59 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:11:59 -0400 Subject: USB to bluetooth converter. Message-ID: Hi Folks: Is it possible to purchase a bluetooth transmitter that would enable me to pair my Apple USB keyboard to my MacBook Pro? A Cropmark Bluetooth Numeric keypad has been released to join/pair with the standard Apple bluetooth keyboard; however, I am not able to purchase one of those animals in Canada. Thanks all over the place gang. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 22:26:15 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:26:15 +0000 Subject: Urgent; Info needed if possible Message-ID: <77AECA42-2D93-48F8-986A-762F46E7D76B@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Could somebody please remind me again of which files and folders should be copied across from one boot drive to another in order to completely mimic the Mail configuration, including all account settings and mailboxes and everything? Somebody also recently told us which files are responsible for VoiceOver's configuration. There are two preference files I believe. Gordon is way to preoccupied, not to mention tired, to look into the problems we are experiencing at the moment. But VoiceOver is behaving very oddly. When we change the settings on it, for instance, verbosity and speech settings, as soon as we run something like Mail, they are jumping back to defaults again which is incredibly irritating. We have a working copy of OSX on another drive and want to copy our VoiceOver configuration files from it, and our mail files to it. Then, we will backup the spare drive on to the primary hard drive and hopefully be done with our problems. We have too much going on at the moment to bother re-installing the OS on a client machines so the backup and restore would be the simplest and most effective option. Time Machine is junk! Not worth the time and trouble of. Time Machine is for those who just want a byte for byte backup of data files, and either don't understand or don't care about wasting space. So we've given up on that application for backups and we are going to look at NTI Shadow to see if that is any better. But at the moment we have too much going on in terms of Internet and otherwise. Gordon hasn't slept for 3 days and nights because he's having to constantly monitor the state of both of our networks and also his employer's network because everything is changing and for technical reasons he needs to be present when the current networks go down. I won't bore the list with all the details, but please be aware that the service outage I mentioned a few days ago is imminent. It could happen from any time starting at Midnight tonight. Anyway, before it does, can anybody help us with these files and locations please, that is our urgent concern with regards our client machines. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 22:33:10 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:33:10 +0000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: <004E29ED-4B09-44BA-88CC-F5E06325DEBF@gmail.com> References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> <8E7C7C9A-60FE-4A7A-8980-269E1C6E563D@gmail.com> <004E29ED-4B09-44BA-88CC-F5E06325DEBF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <547D44D6-0EC0-4358-A79E-2584A8AD4945@mac-access.net> Hello Nic On 16 Feb 2011, at 17:19, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > ? I'm definitely happy to hear it seems to be working out for you. :) > We are still fine tuning it, but we've decided to stick with it at least for the time being. Gordon has too much on his plate, as we would say over here, to take the time to create his own code just now. So it's easier for us to tweak this one. I have added 5GB of space upgrade; I hope that's the right thing to do. I really think this log will take off. But I have a question. I'm wondering whether we should make the blog private, and just let everybody on this list use it and nobody else. After all, the blog is a Mac Access tool. What do people think? > Wordpress is a very nice tool, and I work with it myself on an every day basis along with a few other utilities like Drupal. > I have never heard of that. But Gordon and I are, as you may now have realised, very serious about this project. We want to give it as much as we can. > I'd recommend a lot more utilities, plugins etc which may just help you achieve what you want, but that is probably a private matter which might be a little too off-topic for this list. Some of it costs a little, but most of it does not. > Perhaps we could discuss this off list? Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 22:39:37 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:39:37 +0000 Subject: Urgent; Info needed if possible In-Reply-To: <77AECA42-2D93-48F8-986A-762F46E7D76B@mac-access.net> References: <77AECA42-2D93-48F8-986A-762F46E7D76B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4136CC7B-A4AE-4B54-90FB-100443DC59D8@mac-access.net> Hello Lynne On 16 Feb 2011, at 22:26, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Could somebody please remind me again of which files and folders should be copied across from one boot drive to another in order to completely mimic the Mail configuration, including all account settings and mailboxes and everything? As far as I remember, if you copy the "Mail" folder, which you'll find in ~/Library, this should be all you need. > > Somebody also recently told us which files are responsible for VoiceOver's configuration. There are two preference files I believe. Gordon is way to preoccupied, not to mention tired, to look into the problems we are experiencing at the moment. But VoiceOver is behaving very oddly. When we change the settings on it, for instance, verbosity and speech settings, as soon as we run something like Mail, they are jumping back to defaults again which is incredibly irritating The folder you need in this instance is "com.apple.VoiceOver3" which you'll find in ~/Library/Preferences. This is a folder. Hope this helps TC :) James > Hello everybody > > Could somebody please remind me again of which files and folders should be copied across from one boot drive to another in order to completely mimic the Mail configuration, including all account settings and mailboxes and everything? > > Somebody also recently told us which files are responsible for VoiceOver's configuration. There are two preference files I believe. Gordon is way to preoccupied, not to mention tired, to look into the problems we are experiencing at the moment. But VoiceOver is behaving very oddly. When we change the settings on it, for instance, verbosity and speech settings, as soon as we run something like Mail, they are jumping back to defaults again which is incredibly irritating. We have a working copy of OSX on another drive and want to copy our VoiceOver configuration files from it, and our mail files to it. Then, we will backup the spare drive on to the primary hard drive and hopefully be done with our problems. > > We have too much going on at the moment to bother re-installing the OS on a client machines so the backup and restore would be the simplest and most effective option. > > Time Machine is junk! Not worth the time and trouble of. Time Machine is for those who just want a byte for byte backup of data files, and either don't understand or don't care about wasting space. So we've given up on that application for backups and we are going to look at NTI Shadow to see if that is any better. > > But at the moment we have too much going on in terms of Internet and otherwise. Gordon hasn't slept for 3 days and nights because he's having to constantly monitor the state of both of our networks and also his employer's network because everything is changing and for technical reasons he needs to be present when the current networks go down. > > I won't bore the list with all the details, but please be aware that the service outage I mentioned a few days ago is imminent. It could happen from any time starting at Midnight tonight. > > Anyway, before it does, can anybody help us with these files and locations please, that is our urgent concern with regards our client machines. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 22:45:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:45:27 +0000 Subject: Urgent; Info needed if possible In-Reply-To: <4136CC7B-A4AE-4B54-90FB-100443DC59D8@mac-access.net> References: <77AECA42-2D93-48F8-986A-762F46E7D76B@mac-access.net> <4136CC7B-A4AE-4B54-90FB-100443DC59D8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <987A86A0-3072-4D03-951E-946EA898AB18@mac-access.net> Hello James I will top post here for the sake sake of speed. is it just this folder that we need to copy for VoiceOver? Is there no preference file in ~/library/preferences/? I thought there were two files. I will try the Mail copy, see what I get. Thank you. Lynne On 16 Feb 2011, at 22:39, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello Lynne > On 16 Feb 2011, at 22:26, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> Could somebody please remind me again of which files and folders should be copied across from one boot drive to another in order to completely mimic the Mail configuration, including all account settings and mailboxes and everything? > As far as I remember, if you copy the "Mail" folder, which you'll find in ~/Library, this should be all you need. > >> >> Somebody also recently told us which files are responsible for VoiceOver's configuration. There are two preference files I believe. Gordon is way to preoccupied, not to mention tired, to look into the problems we are experiencing at the moment. But VoiceOver is behaving very oddly. When we change the settings on it, for instance, verbosity and speech settings, as soon as we run something like Mail, they are jumping back to defaults again which is incredibly irritating > The folder you need in this instance is "com.apple.VoiceOver3" which you'll find in ~/Library/Preferences. This is a folder. > > Hope this helps > TC :) > James > >> Hello everybody >> >> Could somebody please remind me again of which files and folders should be copied across from one boot drive to another in order to completely mimic the Mail configuration, including all account settings and mailboxes and everything? >> >> Somebody also recently told us which files are responsible for VoiceOver's configuration. There are two preference files I believe. Gordon is way to preoccupied, not to mention tired, to look into the problems we are experiencing at the moment. But VoiceOver is behaving very oddly. When we change the settings on it, for instance, verbosity and speech settings, as soon as we run something like Mail, they are jumping back to defaults again which is incredibly irritating. We have a working copy of OSX on another drive and want to copy our VoiceOver configuration files from it, and our mail files to it. Then, we will backup the spare drive on to the primary hard drive and hopefully be done with our problems. >> >> We have too much going on at the moment to bother re-installing the OS on a client machines so the backup and restore would be the simplest and most effective option. >> >> Time Machine is junk! Not worth the time and trouble of. Time Machine is for those who just want a byte for byte backup of data files, and either don't understand or don't care about wasting space. So we've given up on that application for backups and we are going to look at NTI Shadow to see if that is any better. >> >> But at the moment we have too much going on in terms of Internet and otherwise. Gordon hasn't slept for 3 days and nights because he's having to constantly monitor the state of both of our networks and also his employer's network because everything is changing and for technical reasons he needs to be present when the current networks go down. >> >> I won't bore the list with all the details, but please be aware that the service outage I mentioned a few days ago is imminent. It could happen from any time starting at Midnight tonight. >> >> Anyway, before it does, can anybody help us with these files and locations please, that is our urgent concern with regards our client machines. >> >> Lynne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 22:46:55 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:46:55 +0000 Subject: Urgent; Info needed if possible In-Reply-To: <987A86A0-3072-4D03-951E-946EA898AB18@mac-access.net> References: <77AECA42-2D93-48F8-986A-762F46E7D76B@mac-access.net> <4136CC7B-A4AE-4B54-90FB-100443DC59D8@mac-access.net> <987A86A0-3072-4D03-951E-946EA898AB18@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6639320A-3C84-48F4-AF1C-2E9C8C90D237@mac-access.net> I don't think so although there is a "com.apple.mail.plist" file but not quite sure what it does. On 16 Feb 2011, at 22:45, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > I will top post here for the sake sake of speed. > > is it just this folder that we need to copy for VoiceOver? > > Is there no preference file in ~/library/preferences/? I thought there were two files. > > I will try the Mail copy, see what I get. Thank you. > > Lynne > > On 16 Feb 2011, at 22:39, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hello Lynne >> On 16 Feb 2011, at 22:26, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> Could somebody please remind me again of which files and folders should be copied across from one boot drive to another in order to completely mimic the Mail configuration, including all account settings and mailboxes and everything? >> As far as I remember, if you copy the "Mail" folder, which you'll find in ~/Library, this should be all you need. >> >>> >>> Somebody also recently told us which files are responsible for VoiceOver's configuration. There are two preference files I believe. Gordon is way to preoccupied, not to mention tired, to look into the problems we are experiencing at the moment. But VoiceOver is behaving very oddly. When we change the settings on it, for instance, verbosity and speech settings, as soon as we run something like Mail, they are jumping back to defaults again which is incredibly irritating >> The folder you need in this instance is "com.apple.VoiceOver3" which you'll find in ~/Library/Preferences. This is a folder. >> >> Hope this helps >> TC :) >> James >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> Could somebody please remind me again of which files and folders should be copied across from one boot drive to another in order to completely mimic the Mail configuration, including all account settings and mailboxes and everything? >>> >>> Somebody also recently told us which files are responsible for VoiceOver's configuration. There are two preference files I believe. Gordon is way to preoccupied, not to mention tired, to look into the problems we are experiencing at the moment. But VoiceOver is behaving very oddly. When we change the settings on it, for instance, verbosity and speech settings, as soon as we run something like Mail, they are jumping back to defaults again which is incredibly irritating. We have a working copy of OSX on another drive and want to copy our VoiceOver configuration files from it, and our mail files to it. Then, we will backup the spare drive on to the primary hard drive and hopefully be done with our problems. >>> >>> We have too much going on at the moment to bother re-installing the OS on a client machines so the backup and restore would be the simplest and most effective option. >>> >>> Time Machine is junk! Not worth the time and trouble of. Time Machine is for those who just want a byte for byte backup of data files, and either don't understand or don't care about wasting space. So we've given up on that application for backups and we are going to look at NTI Shadow to see if that is any better. >>> >>> But at the moment we have too much going on in terms of Internet and otherwise. Gordon hasn't slept for 3 days and nights because he's having to constantly monitor the state of both of our networks and also his employer's network because everything is changing and for technical reasons he needs to be present when the current networks go down. >>> >>> I won't bore the list with all the details, but please be aware that the service outage I mentioned a few days ago is imminent. It could happen from any time starting at Midnight tonight. >>> >>> Anyway, before it does, can anybody help us with these files and locations please, that is our urgent concern with regards our client machines. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 16 23:11:59 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:11:59 -1000 Subject: Urgent; Info needed if possible In-Reply-To: <987A86A0-3072-4D03-951E-946EA898AB18@mac-access.net> References: <77AECA42-2D93-48F8-986A-762F46E7D76B@mac-access.net> <4136CC7B-A4AE-4B54-90FB-100443DC59D8@mac-access.net> <987A86A0-3072-4D03-951E-946EA898AB18@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <883178AA-42C7-4266-A4E0-ECF701047BBB@mac.com> Hi Lynne, I think you want the full set of files described in "Take Control of Apple Mail in Snow Leopard" of what you need to make sure of backing up with mail: If you choose to use another backup program, make sure it backs up all the following items: ? ~/Library/Mail: This folder contains all your mailboxes, rules, RSS feeds, junk mail settings and most of the other data Mail uses. ? ~/Library/Keychains: This folder contains all your keychains, which store your user names and passwords. ? ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook: This folder contains your Address Book contacts and your Previous Recipients list. ? ~/Library/Preferences: This folder contains your preference files, among which is the one Mail uses. This is in an individual user's account (I assume this is for a personal machine and not a server). The usual preference list for mail is com.apple.mail.plist As James said, there is a com.apple.VoiceOver3 folder and there is also a com.apple.VoiceOver3.local.plist and com.apple.universalaccess.plist There may be other general files like com.apple.systempreferences.plist I think that's most of it. Cheers, Esther On Feb 16, 2011, at 12:45, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > I will top post here for the sake sake of speed. > > is it just this folder that we need to copy for VoiceOver? > > Is there no preference file in ~/library/preferences/? I thought there were two files. > > I will try the Mail copy, see what I get. Thank you. > > Lynne > > On 16 Feb 2011, at 22:39, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hello Lynne >> On 16 Feb 2011, at 22:26, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> Could somebody please remind me again of which files and folders should be copied across from one boot drive to another in order to completely mimic the Mail configuration, including all account settings and mailboxes and everything? >> As far as I remember, if you copy the "Mail" folder, which you'll find in ~/Library, this should be all you need. >> >>> >>> Somebody also recently told us which files are responsible for VoiceOver's configuration. There are two preference files I believe. Gordon is way to preoccupied, not to mention tired, to look into the problems we are experiencing at the moment. But VoiceOver is behaving very oddly. When we change the settings on it, for instance, verbosity and speech settings, as soon as we run something like Mail, they are jumping back to defaults again which is incredibly irritating >> The folder you need in this instance is "com.apple.VoiceOver3" which you'll find in ~/Library/Preferences. This is a folder. >> >> Hope this helps >> TC :) >> James >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> Could somebody please remind me again of which files and folders should be copied across from one boot drive to another in order to completely mimic the Mail configuration, including all account settings and mailboxes and everything? >>> >>> Somebody also recently told us which files are responsible for VoiceOver's configuration. There are two preference files I believe. Gordon is way to preoccupied, not to mention tired, to look into the problems we are experiencing at the moment. But VoiceOver is behaving very oddly. When we change the settings on it, for instance, verbosity and speech settings, as soon as we run something like Mail, they are jumping back to defaults again which is incredibly irritating. We have a working copy of OSX on another drive and want to copy our VoiceOver configuration files from it, and our mail files to it. Then, we will backup the spare drive on to the primary hard drive and hopefully be done with our problems. >>> >>> We have too much going on at the moment to bother re-installing the OS on a client machines so the backup and restore would be the simplest and most effective option. >>> >>> Time Machine is junk! Not worth the time and trouble of. Time Machine is for those who just want a byte for byte backup of data files, and either don't understand or don't care about wasting space. So we've given up on that application for backups and we are going to look at NTI Shadow to see if that is any better. >>> >>> But at the moment we have too much going on in terms of Internet and otherwise. Gordon hasn't slept for 3 days and nights because he's having to constantly monitor the state of both of our networks and also his employer's network because everything is changing and for technical reasons he needs to be present when the current networks go down. >>> >>> I won't bore the list with all the details, but please be aware that the service outage I mentioned a few days ago is imminent. It could happen from any time starting at Midnight tonight. >>> >>> Anyway, before it does, can anybody help us with these files and locations please, that is our urgent concern with regards our client machines. >>> >>> Lynne >>> From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Feb 16 23:34:59 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:34:59 -0600 Subject: USB to bluetooth converter. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <095D4725-B200-4165-A126-BD2EA20A6F6B@softcon.com> Yes, it is possible. The wireless mouse we had a year or so ago actually used a usb adapter, that went into the computer, then the mouse itself communicated via bluetooth with the usb adapter. Whether or not this type of setup could be used for generic/multiple other devices, I have no idea, but it certainly doesn't seem like it would be all that difficult. Check tiger direct's catalog, they may have such an animal. From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Feb 16 23:44:16 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:44:16 -0600 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> <8E7C7C9A-60FE-4A7A-8980-269E1C6E563D@gmail.com> Message-ID: I tried literally dozens of blog packages, and didn't like any of them, so I wrote my own. It's currently setup deliberately to integrate to our siegelsnest stuff, but could easily be modified to handle anything you like, including installation on your own servers, and support of multiple people (we already do that) No clue if it would be of use, but if it is, I'd be happy to send over a copy for installation on your servers (it uses php/mysql) and since it's a custom package, that has benefits and downsides, all of which should probably be considered, but that's for you folks to decide. It's currently located at http://www.thesiegelsnest.us/blog/ and if you'd like to see the admin part, I could certainly give you an account there. Of course, this goes for anyone else here who doesn't like the current offerings out there, or is just plain curious. I'm always willing to help. From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 16 23:44:20 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:44:20 -1000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: <547D44D6-0EC0-4358-A79E-2584A8AD4945@mac-access.net> References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> <8E7C7C9A-60FE-4A7A-8980-269E1C6E563D@gmail.com> <004E29ED-4B09-44BA-88CC-F5E06325DEBF@gmail.com> <547D44D6-0EC0-4358-A79E-2584A8AD4945@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5012210B-B8B8-4AD8-8B82-1DD2F8BA3302@mac.com> Hi Lynne, I like the new blog pages; well done. On Feb 16, 2011, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > > I have added 5GB of space upgrade; I hope that's the right thing to do. I really think this log will take off. But I have a question. I'm wondering whether we should make the blog private, and just let everybody on this list use it and nobody else. After all, the blog is a Mac Access tool. What do people think? > I'm not sure whether you want the blog section private, but I would like to see additional pages with more general content that might be made public. In addition to tutorials, I think it would be helpful to have topical pages, such as product reviews that reference Mac and VoiceOver specific accessibility features. I'm thinking, for example, of post that I wrote reviewing the Jawbone Jambox (portable Bluetooth speakers) back in December. There are specific features that make using this a more compelling choice for VoiceOver users (the Voiced announcement interface for startup and pairing, battery level checking, etc., the easy to tactilely identify and intuitive, simple controls, and the rugged build with rubberized base) that don't get covered in general product reviews. While these items are of limited interest time duration, there's probably a place for having a separate resources or review page to check, outside of the regular forum posts. This would also apply to usage notes and tips to for products like the Apple Wireless Keyboard. (You could include tips like how to check for the Battery charge level, and also the keyboard shortcuts for special characters and give links to the VoiceOver shortcuts or pages on how to control the iPhone with Bluetooth keyboard sequences). Just some suggestions. Cheers, Esther From support at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 23:46:42 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:46:42 +0000 Subject: Reminder Message-ID: <6F7EFE3B-56EC-4C13-B91E-C5380166977F@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Just a quick reminder that the servers which power this list will go down some time today. It could be any time from now in theory, so please don't panic if you find you suddenly cannot post to the group. Dobn't think you've been thrown out or anything; it's just an unavoidable outage. Gordon is now in his third night without sleep, working very hard to prepare the network infrastructure for when the new provider takes over. Just a quick explanation. We are switching from ADSL to SDSL which requires all new hardware and a new type of line connection. We have had to invest a great deal of money in 2 16-port Sisco Systems switches and SDSL modems. SDSL is a very different type of connection to DSL or ADSL. SDSL requires a dedicated line, with no voice communications facilities enabled. I won't bore you with all the info but we have had to service 2 networks like this, and the first is already up and running. Anyway, as I said, the servers could go down any time from Midnight UTC. so please don't panic. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Feb 16 23:53:01 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:53:01 +0000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> <8E7C7C9A-60FE-4A7A-8980-269E1C6E563D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <504935BB-B624-4B43-ACC7-55B8980107E0@mac-access.net> Hello Travis We would be very interested if it would work with our servers. Especially if we can customise it to our exact needs. So yes, we are very interested. Lynne On 16 Feb 2011, at 23:44, Travis Siegel wrote: > I tried literally dozens of blog packages, and didn't like any of them, so I wrote my own. > It's currently setup deliberately to integrate to our siegelsnest stuff, but could easily be modified to handle anything you like, including installation on your own servers, and support of multiple people (we already do that) No clue if it would be of use, but if it is, I'd be happy to send over a copy for installation on your servers (it uses php/mysql) and since it's a custom package, that has benefits and downsides, all of which should probably be considered, but that's for you folks to decide. > It's currently located at http://www.thesiegelsnest.us/blog/ > and if you'd like to see the admin part, I could certainly give you an account there. Of course, this goes for anyone else here who doesn't like the current offerings out there, or is just plain curious. I'm always willing to help. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 17 00:04:03 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:04:03 +0000 Subject: Another Phase In Mac Access Development Begins! In-Reply-To: <5012210B-B8B8-4AD8-8B82-1DD2F8BA3302@mac.com> References: <86004BD3-C9F8-4BB4-80D9-5DD25599BE80@mac-access.net> <97B48811-E820-4B69-A0B3-C00D03B17FB3@googlemail.com> <2E05A441-224A-4527-8026-86BFBA7CE7B2@mac-access.net> <00a001cbcdc4$4a6bbd50$df4337f0$@bigpond.net.au> <6EF66502-D7CC-4707-9DC1-70A4831A8D2A@mac-access.net> <8E7C7C9A-60FE-4A7A-8980-269E1C6E563D@gmail.com> <004E29ED-4B09-44BA-88CC-F5E06325DEBF@gmail.com> <547D44D6-0EC0-4358-A79E-2584A8AD4945@mac-access.net> <5012210B-B8B8-4AD8-8B82-1DD2F8BA3302@mac.com> Message-ID: <1E2D150F-D26E-44C0-B045-F91982D60E56@mac-access.net> Hello Esther On 16 Feb 2011, at 23:44, Esther wrote: > ? I like the new blog pages; well done. > This is my first attempt. I only started it off this morning. > ? I'm not sure whether you want the blog section private, but I would like to see additional pages with more general content that might be made public. In addition to tutorials, I think it would be helpful to have topical pages, such as product reviews that reference Mac and VoiceOver specific accessibility features. I'm thinking, for example, of post that I wrote reviewing the Jawbone Jambox (portable Bluetooth speakers) back in December. There are specific features that make using this a more compelling choice for VoiceOver users (the Voiced announcement interface for startup and pairing, battery level checking, etc., the easy to tactilely identify and intuitive, simple controls, and the rugged build with rubberized base) that don't get covered in general product reviews. While these items are of limited interest time duration, there's probably a place for having a separate resources or review page to check, outside of the regular forum posts. This would also apply to u > sage notes and tips to for products like the Apple Wireless Keyboard. (You could include tips like how to check for the Battery charge level, and also the keyboard shortcuts for special characters and give links to the VoiceOver shortcuts or pages on how to control the iPhone with Bluetooth keyboard sequences). > We would require additional help from other contributors to do all that I'm afraid. We somply don't have the time or the material available. But, if others will help us, we will certainly consider that; although we are trying to stay within the field of Apple stuff if possible. > ? Just some suggestions. > They are good ones, in theory. But we don't have the material. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 17 00:08:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:08:27 +0000 Subject: Wifi Network problem Message-ID: Hello everybody Can somebody please remind me how you get OSX to "forget" a wifi network? Our system keeps starting up on the wrong network and, as a result, nothing works properly until we force it to the right network and then we get problems. Lynne From moriond at mac.com Thu Feb 17 00:33:53 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:33:53 -1000 Subject: Wifi Network problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Lynne, I'm not sure, but when in doubt, read the "Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network". I think you go to System Preferences > Network and select your AirPort network in the table with whatever Location profile you are using in the pop up menu button. Then press (VO-Space) the "Advanced" button. On the menu pane for "AirPort" there will be a table of your Preferred Networks. You can add or delete entries to the table, and you can also reorder them in the preferred order for joining. (You could also uncheck the box for "Remember networks this computer has joined", but I don't think that's what you want.) This is around pages 118-120 in the Take Control guide. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 16, 2011, at 14:08, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Can somebody please remind me how you get OSX to "forget" a wifi network? Our system keeps starting up on the wrong network and, as a result, nothing works properly until we force it to the right network and then we get problems. > > Lynne > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Thu Feb 17 00:45:48 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:45:48 -0400 Subject: USB to bluetooth converter. In-Reply-To: <095D4725-B200-4165-A126-BD2EA20A6F6B@softcon.com> References: <095D4725-B200-4165-A126-BD2EA20A6F6B@softcon.com> Message-ID: <28367922C5CD4725823CD52CCF4A015A@MainComputer> Hi: Thanks for your post. Actually, I bit the bullet and purchased the Cropmark LMP Bluetooth numeric Keypad which connects to the standard Apple Bluetooth keyboard making it a full wireless keyboard. Very cool. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:34 PM Subject: Re: USB to bluetooth converter. > Yes, it is possible. The wireless mouse we had a year or so ago actually > used a usb adapter, that went into the computer, then the mouse itself > communicated via bluetooth with the usb adapter. Whether or not this > type of setup could be used for generic/multiple other devices, I have no > idea, but it certainly doesn't seem like it would be all that difficult. > Check tiger direct's catalog, they may have such an animal. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4628 (20091122) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Feb 17 01:02:15 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 01:02:15 +0000 Subject: Wifi Network problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5774D421-36F1-495A-BEA1-239600E75465@mac-access.net> Hello Esther Should have thought of that book; I will go and look later on. I'm trying to persuade my silly over-consciencious husband to go to bed. He's monitoring the networks for when the old one goes down. But he hasn't had any sleep for 72 hours and he's going to make himself ill again if this keeps up. Anyway that's off topic; sorry list controllers, ;) Thank you for the advice Esther, I will play with the network preferences as well to see if I can get rid of the other network without affecting this one. The other will change soon anyway so that's why I want to get shot of it. Lynne From simon at scavendish.co.uk Thu Feb 17 09:47:18 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:47:18 +0000 Subject: Advice on purchasing iPhone on Ebay Message-ID: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> Dear Listers, I am searching for a used iPhone 3gs on Ebay. I just want to reassure myself that all iPhones 3gs have voiceover on it? Am I right? Can anyone offer any tips what to look for? I would have to spend a lot of money and then find out that I can't use the phone;. Many thanks in advance. Simon From gunn at tznet.com Thu Feb 17 10:52:25 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 04:52:25 -0600 Subject: Advice on purchasing iPhone on Ebay In-Reply-To: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> References: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: <8D49C609-BFD7-4C43-B51B-D5A4B78DF70E@tznet.com> Hello, As long as you get the 16GB, you'll be ok. If it's an 8GB, that doesn't have VO. Take care, John On Feb 17, 2011, at 3:47 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Dear Listers, > > I am searching for a used iPhone 3gs on Ebay. I just want to reassure myself that all iPhones 3gs have voiceover on it? Am I right? Can anyone offer any tips what to look for? I would have to spend a lot of money and then find out that I can't use the phone;. > > Many thanks in advance. > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Feb 17 11:07:13 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:07:13 +0000 Subject: Advice on purchasing iPhone on Ebay In-Reply-To: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> References: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: <074A12D9-4579-4FE4-B61E-8297B14DD40F@blueyonder.co.uk> Simon, Yes all 3GS models have VoiceOver. So the only thing you need to decide on is the 8gb, 16gb or 32gb model. Chris On 17 Feb 2011, at 09:47, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Dear Listers, > > I am searching for a used iPhone 3gs on Ebay. I just want to reassure myself that all iPhones 3gs have voiceover on it? Am I right? Can anyone offer any tips what to look for? I would have to spend a lot of money and then find out that I can't use the phone;. > > Many thanks in advance. > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Feb 17 11:08:14 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:08:14 +0000 Subject: Advice on purchasing iPhone on Ebay In-Reply-To: <8D49C609-BFD7-4C43-B51B-D5A4B78DF70E@tznet.com> References: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> <8D49C609-BFD7-4C43-B51B-D5A4B78DF70E@tznet.com> Message-ID: John, That is incorrect, all 3GS models no matter what memory size have VoiceOver. The previous 3G model did not have VoiceOver though. Chris On 17 Feb 2011, at 10:52, John Gunn wrote: > Hello, > > As long as you get the 16GB, you'll be ok. If it's an 8GB, that doesn't have VO. > > Take care, > > John > > > On Feb 17, 2011, at 3:47 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> Dear Listers, >> >> I am searching for a used iPhone 3gs on Ebay. I just want to reassure myself that all iPhones 3gs have voiceover on it? Am I right? Can anyone offer any tips what to look for? I would have to spend a lot of money and then find out that I can't use the phone;. >> >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 23:21:19 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:21:19 -0500 Subject: Advice on purchasing iPhone on Ebay In-Reply-To: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> References: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: <4d5dad6c.ce79dc0a.5b41.4a80@mx.google.com> If you are in the U.S. you can get a refurbed (basically new) 3GS from AT&T for, last time I checked, $50. this will require a contract of course. In my opinion, unless you just don't want a contract, or want an unlocked phone, this seems like a good option. At 04:47 AM 2/17/2011, you wrote: >Dear Listers, > >I am searching for a used iPhone 3gs on Ebay. I just want to >reassure myself that all iPhones 3gs have voiceover on it? Am I >right? Can anyone offer any tips what to look for? I would have to >spend a lot of money and then find out that I can't use the phone;. > >Many thanks in advance. > >Simon >_______________________________________________ > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Fri Feb 18 01:41:45 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:41:45 -0600 Subject: Advice on purchasing iPhone on Ebay In-Reply-To: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> References: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: <18F6957C-AF18-49AE-8527-0E977A7B154A@charter.net> If it's a 3gs, then it does have voiceover. On Feb 17, 2011, at 3:47 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Dear Listers, > > I am searching for a used iPhone 3gs on Ebay. I just want to reassure myself that all iPhones 3gs have voiceover on it? Am I right? Can anyone offer any tips what to look for? I would have to spend a lot of money and then find out that I can't use the phone;. > > Many thanks in advance. > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Thu Feb 17 20:29:00 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:29:00 +0000 Subject: Advice on purchasing iPhone on Ebay In-Reply-To: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> References: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: HI Simon. All the iPhone 3GS phones have VoiceOver. However, be very careful, there have been a lot of scams for the iPhone on eBay. When you find one you like the sound of, send me the link via email at: lewiscrack at googlemail.com, and I will check it for you. I bought mine from eBay but it took me a lot of time, as I wanted to make sure that I was getting a good deal and not getting a scam. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 17 Feb 2011, at 09:47, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Dear Listers, > > I am searching for a used iPhone 3gs on Ebay. I just want to reassure myself that all iPhones 3gs have voiceover on it? Am I right? Can anyone offer any tips what to look for? I would have to spend a lot of money and then find out that I can't use the phone;. > > Many thanks in advance. > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Fri Feb 18 01:42:31 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:42:31 -0600 Subject: Advice on purchasing iPhone on Ebay In-Reply-To: <8D49C609-BFD7-4C43-B51B-D5A4B78DF70E@tznet.com> References: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> <8D49C609-BFD7-4C43-B51B-D5A4B78DF70E@tznet.com> Message-ID: <61535F04-C377-4D37-93EB-5510C604BC99@charter.net> Actually this is incorrect. The 8 gb ipod touch did not have voiceover because it was really a second generation model. The 8 gb iphone 3gs does have voiceover. On Feb 17, 2011, at 4:52 AM, John Gunn wrote: > Hello, > > As long as you get the 16GB, you'll be ok. If it's an 8GB, that doesn't have VO. > > Take care, > > John > > > On Feb 17, 2011, at 3:47 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> Dear Listers, >> >> I am searching for a used iPhone 3gs on Ebay. I just want to reassure myself that all iPhones 3gs have voiceover on it? Am I right? Can anyone offer any tips what to look for? I would have to spend a lot of money and then find out that I can't use the phone;. >> >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 18 03:08:10 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:08:10 +0000 Subject: Back In Business! Message-ID: <2FDF5DDE-53B1-449A-BD05-AB9C40CCCB5E@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Gordon and I are very very sorry for the extended outage. Typically, we were sent a faulty SDSL modem. Rather than keep everybody waiting till next week, we got in our car and drove 400 miles to London, in order to get it replaced. We got home just before 2 this morning, utterly exhausted. But when Gordon installed the new modem, we got strait on line. I won't bore you with the details; but we now have a very nice configuration and much faster Internet. We look forward to expanding our services more in the coming days and weeks. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 03:37:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:37:53 -0800 Subject: How to crack iphone passwords In-Reply-To: <8EA8EFED-CBC5-453B-9934-ED60BC7AB3BD@softcon.com> References: <8EA8EFED-CBC5-453B-9934-ED60BC7AB3BD@softcon.com> Message-ID: <24E4760A-C1CF-4A8E-896A-127F4EE207FC@gmail.com> As long as you keep your phone by you you are fine though. That's what I notice when I tweeted this article out. S On Feb 16, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Here['s an article explaining how a group of researchers cracked an iphone and got it's stored passwords out. It apparently didn't take very long, so be ware. > > http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2011/02/how_to_crack_iphone_passwords.php > _______________________________________________ > > The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free > > To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group since the 12th of April 2010, at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html > From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Fri Feb 18 04:17:57 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:17:57 -0500 Subject: Advice on purchasing iPhone on Ebay In-Reply-To: <61535F04-C377-4D37-93EB-5510C604BC99@charter.net> References: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> <8D49C609-BFD7-4C43-B51B-D5A4B78DF70E@tznet.com> <61535F04-C377-4D37-93EB-5510C604BC99@charter.net> Message-ID: <88E6C933-3456-4C12-B131-14EC380FB2FD@chicksdigmacs.net> I bought my 3gS off ebay in August for $500. It was an Applecare replacement and had just been received by the seller, so I got it brand new. It was locked, but I jailbroke and unlocked it. If you're looking to jailbreak or unlock, there are certain things I would look for. If not, then just make sure the phone is in good condition and that you get it from a reputable seller. Hth, Rose On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Actually this is incorrect. The 8 gb ipod touch did not have voiceover because it was really a second generation model. The 8 gb iphone 3gs does have voiceover. > On Feb 17, 2011, at 4:52 AM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> As long as you get the 16GB, you'll be ok. If it's an 8GB, that doesn't have VO. >> >> Take care, >> >> John >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2011, at 3:47 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: >> >>> Dear Listers, >>> >>> I am searching for a used iPhone 3gs on Ebay. I just want to reassure myself that all iPhones 3gs have voiceover on it? Am I right? Can anyone offer any tips what to look for? I would have to spend a lot of money and then find out that I can't use the phone;. >>> >>> Many thanks in advance. >>> >>> Simon >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Feb 18 04:50:44 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 04:50:44 +0000 Subject: Double New Member Welcome Message-ID: <29112BCC-3C26-4E11-ABF8-5E759B1996E7@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome both Greg Madson, and also Liam Kemble-Young to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From simon at scavendish.co.uk Fri Feb 18 06:30:03 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 06:30:03 +0000 Subject: Advice on purchasing iPhone on Ebay In-Reply-To: References: <6B1924E0-0FF0-4D8C-B525-0BCBC2D607BE@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: <41052CE8-FCFE-4426-B577-635D5CBAE43A@scavendish.co.uk> Thanks listers, it's all very helpful. Lewis, I shall forward you the link - thank you for the kind offer. Simon On 17 Feb 2011, at 20:29, Lewis Crack wrote: > HI Simon. > > All the iPhone 3GS phones have VoiceOver. > However, be very careful, there have been a lot of scams for the iPhone on eBay. > When you find one you like the sound of, send me the link via email at: lewiscrack at googlemail.com, and I will check it for you. > I bought mine from eBay but it took me a lot of time, as I wanted to make sure that I was getting a good deal and not getting a scam. > Hope this helps. > Lewis. > On 17 Feb 2011, at 09:47, Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> Dear Listers, >> >> I am searching for a used iPhone 3gs on Ebay. I just want to reassure myself that all iPhones 3gs have voiceover on it? Am I right? Can anyone offer any tips what to look for? I would have to spend a lot of money and then find out that I can't use the phone;. >> >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net Fri Feb 18 08:42:16 2011 From: gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:42:16 +0000 Subject: On the go again Message-ID: Hello everybody Well, try as we might, we cannot get our machines to forget about our old networks and their names. I tried turning off all the remember options, to no effect. With the mouse, I can re-order them; but not delete them. So I am stuck. I welcome all suggestions. Lynne _______________________________________ Gordon & Lynne Smith; gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net VOIP ... 6718004 at GRADWELL.NET MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 Fax: +44--1642-365-123 We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 23:58:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:58:57 -0800 Subject: moving items to the trash with cmd del does something odd. Message-ID: <67B2D2D5-15B4-4125-986B-C2B4C82381BC@gmail.com> Hello I went to del something to the trash and I got this instead of the trash sound. This item will be deleted immediately. You can?t undo this action. I was on my desktop. this happened yesterday. how do I fix this? Thanks. From shawx at westnet.com.au Fri Feb 18 08:48:10 2011 From: shawx at westnet.com.au (col shawx) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:48:10 +1100 Subject: new member Message-ID: <361555CFD6074D4D850E5522FD52507D@col> Hi my name is Col shawx. new to this list, and the MAC operating system. I am looking forward to learning the MAC operating system. I am using a I MAC with Snow Leopard loaded. originally I operated the Microsoft system with JAWS. so far I am finding the MAC system most enjoyable. looking forward to many questions in the future. thank you. Later. Col. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 08:48:26 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:48:26 +0100 Subject: On the go again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Lynne, I just tested this, and it seemed to work just fine. Go to System Preferences and click Network. 1. Click the lock, enter your password and click advanced. 2. Go to the "Preferred networks" table, and highlight the network you want to cchange, then interact with the "Group" item right next to it outside of the table itself. 3. Click remove. That's it. It shouldn't remember it again. I tried this without a secured network because I am at university right now, but it should be the same. Good luck! Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net Fri Feb 18 09:22:54 2011 From: gordon-and-lynne.mobile at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:22:54 +0000 Subject: On the go again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <024ACF17-BC87-481F-9A53-AA39B6957233@mac-access.net> Hello Nic On 18 Feb 2011, at 08:48, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > ? I just tested this, and it seemed to work just fine. > Not for me! > ? Go to System Preferences and click Network. > I did that. > 1. Click the lock, enter your password and click advanced. > 2. Go to the "Preferred networks" table, and highlight the network you want to cchange, then interact with the "Group" item right next to it outside of the table itself. > 3. Click remove. > > That's it. It shouldn't remember it again. I tried this without a secured network because I am at university right now, but it should be the same. > I don't think so Nic because that's essential what I did. > Good luck! > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Fri Feb 18 09:26:37 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:26:37 +0000 Subject: the macbook pro and the i-phone Message-ID: <4d5e3aa5.9352d80a.0c9a.4e58@mx.google.com> can you use a mobile phone to connect the macbook pro to the internet or do you need some kind of card to be able to do this? i ask because i can't access the wireless point at work because it is a secured network so i was wondering if i could connect my i-phone to my usb port and somehow connect to the vodafone network with my i-phone. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 09:50:50 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:50:50 +0100 Subject: On the go again In-Reply-To: <024ACF17-BC87-481F-9A53-AA39B6957233@mac-access.net> References: <024ACF17-BC87-481F-9A53-AA39B6957233@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Lynne, There is no reason that it should not. If you remove it from the Preferred list, it will no longer connect automatically. It will, however, still remember the passwords but does not connect unless you click it from the Airport menu. The password is stored in the Keychain, and can be found by hitting Command-Option-F to go to the search field. As another note...it may be worth clicking "Ok" then "Apply" for good measure. You can then safely either disconnect airport then reconnect, or simply disconnect your Airport from the network itself. I just checked it with my secured network. Other than that, there are no other settings which control this as far as I can see. At least, nothing jumps out. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Feb 18 10:03:38 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:03:38 +0000 Subject: new member In-Reply-To: <361555CFD6074D4D850E5522FD52507D@col> References: <361555CFD6074D4D850E5522FD52507D@col> Message-ID: <9FE1DC02-02FF-47B7-A898-46B2E3912A23@googlemail.com> hi col i have had a mac for nearly six months now and i am enjoying every minute of it. I found it quite easy to pick up as well once i had the basics down. i find it way more accessable than jaws in a lot of ways. Ian McNamara From support at mac-access.net Fri Feb 18 11:34:28 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:34:28 +0000 Subject: Double New Member Welcome Message-ID: Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Chris G and Thuy Mallalieu to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From khwicca at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 13:05:56 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:05:56 -0500 Subject: USB speakers not seen by Mac Mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00f101cbcf6c$9554a080$bffde180$@com> I have had these Bose computer speakers from the very time I got my Mac. The speakers have an annoying power-saving feature that cannot be changed. They have an orange light that means they are in sleep mode and a green light that means they are fully operational and then they go off after about an hour and have no light at all. The remote that changes this status is a round module and you simply tap the top of it with your finger and the mode changes. This is, of course, very visual and always guess work. When things are working fine and the speakers are being used by Apple, then I can tap the remote until I get sound and all is well. However, sometimes, like now, the Apple seems to lose the speakers altogether and then I can't bring them back. They are not in the profiler, they are not a choice for sound output, and it doesn't matter what the light says they are not able to be seen by the Mini and will not come back. I've had sighted assistance with this. What I'm wondering, is if, like the PC there is a way to ask Apple to look for new hardware or redetect hardware? I am still knew enough to Apple land that there's a lot I don't know and this is the only way I can think of to get the speakers back. Can anyone help with this? Kristeen Hughes From khwicca at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 13:10:07 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:10:07 -0500 Subject: moving items to the trash with cmd del does something odd. In-Reply-To: <67B2D2D5-15B4-4125-986B-C2B4C82381BC@gmail.com> References: <67B2D2D5-15B4-4125-986B-C2B4C82381BC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <010701cbcf6d$2af75bf0$80e613d0$@com> The times I have seen this message were always when I was using my Mini, but I was attempting to delete something across the network on one of the other computers. It happens because when you're deleting something that is not on your actual Apple computer you need to know that there is no protection of the trash. It is just gone. This is also true on a PC when accessing something across the network, but you get no warning. This is my experience and I don't know if this applies to you or is any help. Kristeen Hughes -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:59 PM To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: moving items to the trash with cmd del does something odd. Hello I went to del something to the trash and I got this instead of the trash sound. This item will be deleted immediately. You can't undo this action. I was on my desktop. this happened yesterday. how do I fix this? Thanks. _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Feb 18 13:30:23 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:30:23 +0000 Subject: moving items to the trash with cmd del does something odd. In-Reply-To: <010701cbcf6d$2af75bf0$80e613d0$@com> References: <67B2D2D5-15B4-4125-986B-C2B4C82381BC@gmail.com> <010701cbcf6d$2af75bf0$80e613d0$@com> Message-ID: Hi Kristeen I think there is some protection in actual fact. On external drives for example, there is a hidden Trash folder.. I had a similar experience and to fix it I think I recreated the .Trash folder which is hidden in the home folder through the Terminal. TC :) James On 18 Feb 2011, at 13:10, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > The times I have seen this message were always when I was using my Mini, but > I was attempting to delete something across the network on one of the other > computers. It happens because when you're deleting something that is not on > your actual Apple computer you need to know that there is no protection of > the trash. It is just gone. This is also true on a PC when accessing > something across the network, but you get no warning. This is my experience > and I don't know if this applies to you or is any help. > > Kristeen Hughes > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:59 PM > To: mac access list iOS Accessibility > Subject: moving items to the trash with cmd del does something odd. > > Hello I went to del something to the trash and I got this instead of the > trash sound. > > This item will be deleted immediately. You can't undo this action. > > I was on my desktop. this happened yesterday. how do I fix this? > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 13:38:34 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:38:34 -0500 Subject: moving items to the trash with cmd del does something odd. In-Reply-To: <67B2D2D5-15B4-4125-986B-C2B4C82381BC@gmail.com> References: <67B2D2D5-15B4-4125-986B-C2B4C82381BC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3A2FE09C-415A-49C6-9122-D1203CC90DDB@gmail.com> Restart your computer and it should be fixed. On Feb 17, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello I went to del something to the trash and I got this instead of the trash sound. > > This item will be deleted immediately. You can?t undo this action. > > I was on my desktop. this happened yesterday. how do I fix this? > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 14:52:48 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:52:48 -0500 Subject: Burning a cd using the remote disc feature Message-ID: <8D5A1CA1-D5E5-4F52-9245-8674E4A228BC@gmail.com> Hi, Can someone please tell me how I should go about burning a CD using the remote disc feature on the mac. I need to do this because my macbook air doesn't have a CD drive, but my Mac Mini does, and I hear this can be done somehow. Any help on this subject would be welcome. Courtney From opensesame at me.com Fri Feb 18 14:53:41 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:53:41 -0500 Subject: the macbook pro and the i-phone In-Reply-To: <4d5e3aa5.9352d80a.0c9a.4e58@mx.google.com> References: <4d5e3aa5.9352d80a.0c9a.4e58@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5F78CB5B-B65A-400F-B527-414EE74AB570@me.com> Hello Michael, You wrote: > can you use a mobile phone to connect the macbook pro to the internet or do you need some kind of card to be able to do this? Yes, it is technically possible to use your iphone to do this, as long as your cell carrier allows for it. What you are asking to do is generally referred to as "Tethering," at least here in the US that's what we call it. While I can't speak for Vodaphone customers, I can tell you that in the US both ATT and Verizon offer this service at an additional monthly cost, and with strict data usage limitations. HTH, Bryan From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Feb 18 15:05:10 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:05:10 -0600 Subject: On the go again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89458EBF-7936-45C1-AF2E-727DE241C31F@softcon.com> On my version of OSX (10.5.8) there is a list of previous servers I've connected to, though these don't appear to be networks, though it may help anyway. It's in my ~/library/Recent servers folder. Removing those files should allow you to begin from scratch, adding servers as you come across them, and hopefully that will remove them from the network list too, though I've not (yet) found actual networks I've connected to, though I'd wager they're somewhere in that ~/ library mess somewhere. I'll keep looking. From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Feb 18 16:00:21 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:00:21 -0400 Subject: comprehensive tutorial on Voiceover and Safari. Message-ID: Hi Folks: Where can I obtain such an animal. From jackie.cairnsplace at btinternet.com Fri Feb 18 16:19:02 2011 From: jackie.cairnsplace at btinternet.com (Jackie Cairns) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:19:02 -0000 Subject: Comprehensive tutorial on VoiceOver and Safari Message-ID: Hi Jim The Apple Accessibility pages offer some very helpful stuff, including the VoiceOver manual in BRF format if you are able to open it with an OCR package or read it on a Braille note-taker. There are lots of other very good tutorials and podcasts done by Mike Erigo on www.blindcooltech.com I hope that helps to get you started. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm at work-ability.co.uk www.work-ability.co.uk From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Feb 18 16:57:35 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:57:35 -0400 Subject: Comprehensive tutorial on VoiceOver and Safari References: Message-ID: <2EA423392BC24826BB81049A288C95C1@CNIBnotebook> Jackie: Thanks all over the place. I have a client who is looking for such a tutorial but, as of yet, I haven't found a good one. Again, thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:19 PM Subject: Comprehensive tutorial on VoiceOver and Safari > Hi Jim > > The Apple Accessibility pages offer some very helpful stuff, including the > VoiceOver manual in BRF format if you are able to open it with an OCR > package or read it on a Braille note-taker. > > There are lots of other very good tutorials and podcasts done by Mike > Erigo > on > www.blindcooltech.com > > I hope that helps to get you started. > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > J&M Work-Ability > > jandm at work-ability.co.uk > www.work-ability.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Feb 18 18:10:50 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:10:50 +0000 Subject: Comprehensive tutorial on VoiceOver and Safari In-Reply-To: <2EA423392BC24826BB81049A288C95C1@CNIBnotebook> References: <2EA423392BC24826BB81049A288C95C1@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: <60DF8954-A37F-40BF-ABEC-12EF149312D1@blueyonder.co.uk> Jim, Check these podcasts out, it was what helped me when I first started with VO. http://www.visionaustralia.org/info.aspx?page=2296 Chris On 18 Feb 2011, at 16:57, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Jackie: > > Thanks all over the place. > > I have a client who is looking for such a tutorial but, as of yet, I haven't found a good one. > > Again, thanks all over the place. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:19 PM > Subject: Comprehensive tutorial on VoiceOver and Safari > > >> Hi Jim >> >> The Apple Accessibility pages offer some very helpful stuff, including the >> VoiceOver manual in BRF format if you are able to open it with an OCR >> package or read it on a Braille note-taker. >> >> There are lots of other very good tutorials and podcasts done by Mike Erigo >> on >> www.blindcooltech.com >> >> I hope that helps to get you started. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Jackie Cairns >> J&M Work-Ability >> >> jandm at work-ability.co.uk >> www.work-ability.co.uk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Feb 18 18:47:32 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:47:32 -1000 Subject: Comprehensive tutorial on VoiceOver and Safari In-Reply-To: <60DF8954-A37F-40BF-ABEC-12EF149312D1@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <2EA423392BC24826BB81049A288C95C1@CNIBnotebook> <60DF8954-A37F-40BF-ABEC-12EF149312D1@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <1983D62B-5D2A-4125-9546-FDD85DEB2B00@mac.com> Hi Jim, I second Chris' recommendation; there's a nice podcast about using the VoiceOver web rotor to navigate in Safari at the Vision Australia site that he links. I'd just suggest that you download the mp3 file (either press Option+Return when you're on the link, or bring up the context menu VO-Shift-M and choose to download the linked file) rather than streaming, because sometimes the connection to the site may not be good. I'd also suggest reading through the section of the "VoiceOver Getting Started Guide" for Snow Leopard on "Browsing the Internet" (Chapter 6). This available on the web from Apple's VoiceOver Downloads page: http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ (The guide can also be accessed from the VoiceOver Help menu on your Mac: VO-H and then navigate to "Getting Started Guide" by pressing "g" or using your arrow keys, then press "Return".) If you need a copy in RTF format, you can download it from this page of documentation: http://www.adaptive-tech.org/ess/html/Docs.html Other helpful parts to check in the documentation are the Appendix A lists of VoiceOver commands, particularly under "Search Commands" for shortcuts like finding the next heading, etc. and for the "Web Commands". Finally, a very overlooked resource is the Help menu on the menu bar for Safari. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 18, 2011, at 08:10, Chris Moore wrote: > Jim, > > Check these podcasts out, it was what helped me when I first started with VO. > > http://www.visionaustralia.org/info.aspx?page=2296 > > Chris > On 18 Feb 2011, at 16:57, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Jackie: >> >> Thanks all over the place. >> >> I have a client who is looking for such a tutorial but, as of yet, I haven't found a good one. >> >> Again, thanks all over the place. >> From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Feb 18 18:55:45 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:55:45 -0400 Subject: Comprehensive tutorial on VoiceOver and Safari References: <2EA423392BC24826BB81049A288C95C1@CNIBnotebook> <60DF8954-A37F-40BF-ABEC-12EF149312D1@blueyonder.co.uk> <1983D62B-5D2A-4125-9546-FDD85DEB2B00@mac.com> Message-ID: <16A9722371E54BE7A5BB9E4E20774367@CNIBnotebook> Esther: Thanks all over the place for your post. I have these resources but I was looking for a more comprehensive tutorial. Again, thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Comprehensive tutorial on VoiceOver and Safari > Hi Jim, > > I second Chris' recommendation; there's a nice podcast about using the > VoiceOver web rotor to navigate in Safari at the Vision Australia site > that he links. I'd just suggest that you download the mp3 file (either > press Option+Return when you're on the link, or bring up the context menu > VO-Shift-M and choose to download the linked file) rather than streaming, > because sometimes the connection to the site may not be good. > > I'd also suggest reading through the section of the "VoiceOver Getting > Started Guide" for Snow Leopard on "Browsing the Internet" (Chapter 6). > This available on the web from Apple's VoiceOver Downloads page: > http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ > (The guide can also be accessed from the VoiceOver Help menu on your Mac: > VO-H and then navigate to "Getting Started Guide" by pressing "g" or using > your arrow keys, then press "Return".) If you need a copy in RTF format, > you can download it from this page of documentation: > > http://www.adaptive-tech.org/ess/html/Docs.html > > Other helpful parts to check in the documentation are the Appendix A lists > of VoiceOver commands, particularly under "Search Commands" for shortcuts > like finding the next heading, etc. and for the "Web Commands". > > Finally, a very overlooked resource is the Help menu on the menu bar for > Safari. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 18, 2011, at 08:10, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Jim, >> >> Check these podcasts out, it was what helped me when I first started with >> VO. >> >> http://www.visionaustralia.org/info.aspx?page=2296 >> >> Chris >> On 18 Feb 2011, at 16:57, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Jackie: >>> >>> Thanks all over the place. >>> >>> I have a client who is looking for such a tutorial but, as of yet, I >>> haven't found a good one. >>> >>> Again, thanks all over the place. >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 18:56:44 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:56:44 -0500 Subject: Back In Business! In-Reply-To: <2FDF5DDE-53B1-449A-BD05-AB9C40CCCB5E@mac-access.net> References: <2FDF5DDE-53B1-449A-BD05-AB9C40CCCB5E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: That's incredible divotion and quite awesome! Thank you. Kristeen On Feb 17, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Gordon and I are very very sorry for the extended outage. Typically, we were sent a faulty SDSL modem. > > Rather than keep everybody waiting till next week, we got in our car and drove 400 miles to London, in order to get it replaced. > > We got home just before 2 this morning, utterly exhausted. But when Gordon installed the new modem, we got strait on line. > > I won't bore you with the details; but we now have a very nice configuration and much faster Internet. We look forward to expanding our services more in the coming days and weeks. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simon at scavendish.co.uk Fri Feb 18 19:12:21 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:12:21 +0000 Subject: Burning a cd using the remote disc feature In-Reply-To: <8D5A1CA1-D5E5-4F52-9245-8674E4A228BC@gmail.com> References: <8D5A1CA1-D5E5-4F52-9245-8674E4A228BC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Courtney, I haven't tried it in practice but I soon will have to do something similar. I understand you have to enable your dvd drive sharing on your mini in system preferences under sharing button. There in the table you need check a box that allows you to share your drive by other computers on the network. Thereafter, you will need to connect to your mini wirelessly and you should be able to use your dvd drive in that way. The best way to connect to your mini is by finding your mini's afp address and then on your macbook air from the finder pressing control+k and pasting your mini's afp address - which would be four clusters of numbers - and you will probably also be asked for the password on your mini, and then you should be able to accomplish your task. If this doesn't work, others on the list are much more knowledgeable than I to help you. Hope this helps. Simon On 18 Feb 2011, at 14:52, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Can someone please tell me how I should go about burning a CD using the remote disc feature on the mac. I need to do this because my macbook air doesn't have a CD drive, but my Mac Mini does, and I hear this can be done somehow. Any help on this subject would be welcome. > Courtney > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 19:23:13 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:23:13 -0500 Subject: Burning a cd using the remote disc feature In-Reply-To: References: <8D5A1CA1-D5E5-4F52-9245-8674E4A228BC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <56AFCAB6-E83B-400C-AD03-E3801C08EBD4@gmail.com> Hi, How do you find that address on the mini? Courtney On Feb 18, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Dear Courtney, > > I haven't tried it in practice but I soon will have to do something similar. I understand you have to enable your dvd drive sharing on your mini in system preferences under sharing button. There in the table you need check a box that allows you to share your drive by other computers on the network. Thereafter, you will need to connect to your mini wirelessly and you should be able to use your dvd drive in that way. The best way to connect to your mini is by finding your mini's afp address and then on your macbook air from the finder pressing control+k and pasting your mini's afp address - which would be four clusters of numbers - and you will probably also be asked for the password on your mini, and then you should be able to accomplish your task. If this doesn't work, others on the list are much more knowledgeable than I to help you. > > Hope this helps. > > Simon > On 18 Feb 2011, at 14:52, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> Can someone please tell me how I should go about burning a CD using the remote disc feature on the mac. I need to do this because my macbook air doesn't have a CD drive, but my Mac Mini does, and I hear this can be done somehow. Any help on this subject would be welcome. >> Courtney >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 19:25:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:25:50 -0800 Subject: moving items to the trash with cmd del does something odd. In-Reply-To: <3A2FE09C-415A-49C6-9122-D1203CC90DDB@gmail.com> References: <67B2D2D5-15B4-4125-986B-C2B4C82381BC@gmail.com> <3A2FE09C-415A-49C6-9122-D1203CC90DDB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <501BACE5-7EC9-4F74-A033-36929D78B679@gmail.com> Actual it fixed itself somehow. Dunno how though. Lol. On 18/02/2011, at 5:38, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Restart your computer and it should be fixed. > > On Feb 17, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello I went to del something to the trash and I got this instead of the trash sound. >> >> This item will be deleted immediately. You can?t undo this action. >> >> I was on my desktop. this happened yesterday. how do I fix this? >> >> Thanks. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Feb 18 19:35:56 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:35:56 -1000 Subject: Burning a cd using the remote disc feature In-Reply-To: <56AFCAB6-E83B-400C-AD03-E3801C08EBD4@gmail.com> References: <8D5A1CA1-D5E5-4F52-9245-8674E4A228BC@gmail.com> <56AFCAB6-E83B-400C-AD03-E3801C08EBD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A98D5B3-EDEA-4C77-9AE4-8850D78CC527@mac.com> Hi Courtney, On Feb 18, 2011, at 09:23, Courtney Curran wrote: > How do you find that address on the mini? You can find out the network address of your computer by going to System Preferences > Network. If your selection in the Services table is set to "AirPort", VO-Right arrow (or those using TrackPad Commander can just Right Arrow) from the table and VoiceOver will report the Status and address of your connection, e.g., "Status: Connected", then "Turn AirPort Off" button, followed by "AirPort is connected to and has the IP address 10.0.1.13" -- where I've made up possible numbers for the IP address. Cheers, Esther From billd at insightbb.com Fri Feb 18 20:00:16 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:00:16 -0500 Subject: a bit of encouragement Message-ID: <8DAFC786-4366-495A-95BF-178C9A1347AF@insightbb.com> I read a message from a person who said they are new to the Mac list and the mac itself. I got my Mac in December or the first of january I am not sure now. But before that I hadn't used the Mac. It took a little time to learn but now that I did it has been worth the time I spent. i enjoy my I Mac and hope you will have the same experience. Bill deatherage From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 19 02:03:05 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:03:05 -0600 Subject: Burning a cd using the remote disc feature In-Reply-To: <4A98D5B3-EDEA-4C77-9AE4-8850D78CC527@mac.com> References: <8D5A1CA1-D5E5-4F52-9245-8674E4A228BC@gmail.com> <56AFCAB6-E83B-400C-AD03-E3801C08EBD4@gmail.com> <4A98D5B3-EDEA-4C77-9AE4-8850D78CC527@mac.com> Message-ID: <77D4965B-8129-4F3C-910C-A88E928B1AC1@softcon.com> On Feb 18, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Esther wrote: >> > > You can find out the network address of your computer by going to > System Preferences > Network. If your selection in the Services > table is set to "AirPort", VO-Right arrow (or those using TrackPad > Commander can just Right Arrow) from the table and VoiceOver will > report the Status and address of your connection, e.g., "Status: > Connected", then "Turn AirPort Off" button, followed by "AirPort is > connected to and has the IP address > 10.0.1.13" -- where I've made up possible numbers for the IP address. Esther as always has an excellent post on how to locate your network ip address. I'll just add two things. First, if you're not using airport, then the information is the same, only you select ethernet instead of airport in the network table. But, my second thing is this: If you're geeky (like me) and like terminal, and don't want to click through all those menus, here's a script which will get your ip address right away from the terminal prompt. If you're on a traveling machine, and your ip changes often, you might want to assign this script to a function key, so you don't need to type it all out every time. **cut here ** ifconfig|grep broadcast|awk '{print $2}'; **cut here** If you're running multiple networks, or have you're running fusion, it will list each and every ip address on your machine, one per line. Hope this helps. :) From moriond at mac.com Sat Feb 19 04:29:30 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:29:30 -1000 Subject: Burning a cd using the remote disc feature In-Reply-To: <77D4965B-8129-4F3C-910C-A88E928B1AC1@softcon.com> References: <8D5A1CA1-D5E5-4F52-9245-8674E4A228BC@gmail.com> <56AFCAB6-E83B-400C-AD03-E3801C08EBD4@gmail.com> <4A98D5B3-EDEA-4C77-9AE4-8850D78CC527@mac.com> <77D4965B-8129-4F3C-910C-A88E928B1AC1@softcon.com> Message-ID: <12E125F4-DEEE-4EE2-8409-9175FB18003C@mac.com> Hi, On Feb 18, 2011, at 16:03, Travis Siegel wrote: > > If you're geeky (like me) and like terminal, and don't want to click through all those menus, here's a script which will get your ip address right away from the terminal prompt. > If you're on a traveling machine, and your ip changes often, you might want to assign this script to a function key, so you don't need to type it all out every time. > **cut here ** > ifconfig|grep broadcast|awk '{print $2}'; > **cut here** I should probably have stated that when I check my network IP addresses, I also use Terminal on the command line and check "ifconfig". Travis just has much cooler pipe to "grep" than I was used to using, so of course I saved his post with the command syntax the first time he posted that hint. But then, he probably shell scripts in his sleep . > If you're running multiple networks, or have you're running fusion, it will list each and every ip address on your machine, one per line. > Hope this helps. :) See what I mean about his probably shell scripting in his sleep? Cheers, Esther From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 05:54:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:54:40 -0800 Subject: Burning a cd using the remote disc feature In-Reply-To: <12E125F4-DEEE-4EE2-8409-9175FB18003C@mac.com> References: <8D5A1CA1-D5E5-4F52-9245-8674E4A228BC@gmail.com> <56AFCAB6-E83B-400C-AD03-E3801C08EBD4@gmail.com> <4A98D5B3-EDEA-4C77-9AE4-8850D78CC527@mac.com> <77D4965B-8129-4F3C-910C-A88E928B1AC1@softcon.com> <12E125F4-DEEE-4EE2-8409-9175FB18003C@mac.com> Message-ID: <65F0A309-1D66-4CBA-BB26-8D61A999500C@gmail.com> lol! I have to learn this apple script. I'm not that good at it but that's for another day. I'm keeping a copy of the posts though in case I have to use a MBAir one day. S On Feb 18, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi, > > On Feb 18, 2011, at 16:03, Travis Siegel wrote: >> >> If you're geeky (like me) and like terminal, and don't want to click through all those menus, here's a script which will get your ip address right away from the terminal prompt. >> If you're on a traveling machine, and your ip changes often, you might want to assign this script to a function key, so you don't need to type it all out every time. >> **cut here ** >> ifconfig|grep broadcast|awk '{print $2}'; >> **cut here** > I should probably have stated that when I check my network IP addresses, I also use Terminal on the command line and check "ifconfig". Travis just has much cooler pipe to "grep" than I was used to using, so of course I saved his post with the command syntax the first time he posted that hint. But then, he probably shell scripts in his sleep . > >> If you're running multiple networks, or have you're running fusion, it will list each and every ip address on your machine, one per line. >> Hope this helps. :) > > See what I mean about his probably shell scripting in his sleep? > > Cheers, > > Esther > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From w9fyi at mac-access.net Sat Feb 19 06:02:57 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 23:02:57 -0700 Subject: good case for the iPhone Message-ID: <9DE03353-0D23-45E0-AC56-F225BE5A0E64@mac-access.net> Hi all, It's time for me to invest in an iPhone case again. Does anybody have any recommendations? I had my iPhone in the dock, and my 17-month-old daughter broke my griffin reveal Thanks much Justin From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 06:35:34 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 22:35:34 -0800 Subject: good case for the iPhone In-Reply-To: <9DE03353-0D23-45E0-AC56-F225BE5A0E64@mac-access.net> References: <9DE03353-0D23-45E0-AC56-F225BE5A0E64@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello. try the otterbox defender case. I didn't spell it right but maybe ebay might have it for cheaper. S On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Justin Mann wrote: > Hi all, > It's time for me to invest in an iPhone case again. Does anybody have any recommendations? I had my iPhone in the dock, and my 17-month-old daughter broke my griffin reveal > Thanks much > Justin > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From w9fyi at mac-access.net Sat Feb 19 08:05:43 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:05:43 -0700 Subject: good case for the iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <9DE03353-0D23-45E0-AC56-F225BE5A0E64@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I've been chcking that out but. I'm real curious about some of the cases from http://www.goballisticcase.com On Feb 18, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. try the otterbox defender case. I didn't spell it right but maybe ebay might have it for cheaper. > > S > On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Justin Mann wrote: > >> Hi all, >> It's time for me to invest in an iPhone case again. Does anybody have any recommendations? I had my iPhone in the dock, and my 17-month-old daughter broke my griffin reveal >> Thanks much >> Justin >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 12:14:22 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 07:14:22 -0500 Subject: good case for the iPhone In-Reply-To: <9DE03353-0D23-45E0-AC56-F225BE5A0E64@mac-access.net> References: <9DE03353-0D23-45E0-AC56-F225BE5A0E64@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9CF55F21-3ACE-468F-93AD-7D6014B862D9@gmail.com> Take a look on iskin.com. I have cases from them for my iphone and my ipod touch, and I think they are great! Marcy On Feb 19, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Justin Mann wrote: > Hi all, > It's time for me to invest in an iPhone case again. Does anybody have any recommendations? I had my iPhone in the dock, and my 17-month-old daughter broke my griffin reveal > Thanks much > Justin > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From damian.mcmorrow at me.com Sat Feb 19 12:30:29 2011 From: damian.mcmorrow at me.com (Damian McMorrow) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:30:29 +1000 Subject: Questions about login items and terminal. Message-ID: <0FA25668-815A-42C3-8BF4-6FBB34EECC27@me.com> Hi all, I have a couple of what I hope will be simple questions. Firstly, I have a number of smb shares on a NAS device which I've added as login items, however when I start the mac I get an error saying connection failed, check the IP address etc. When I go to mount these shares manually however, they connect just fine. I'm wondering if the problem could be that OSX is trying to mount them before the wireless network has had a chance to connect? If so, is there any way around this, or any other suggestions for making this work? The other question I have is about Terminal. When I try to ping something on the local network, VO doesn't allow me to hear the response, so I have no way of knowing whether the device I'm pinging is responding or timing out. All I hear is "64 bites from IP address." are there any tricks to configuring VO and terminal so that you can see and review the output? Thanks in advance for any suggestions on either of these issues. Regards. Damian. From billd at insightbb.com Sat Feb 19 12:32:07 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 07:32:07 -0500 Subject: learning to use the I Phone Message-ID: Hello, I am planning to get the I Phone soon. I have a few questions: first of all, does anyone have any suggestions on how to learn how to use it. is the manuals on line? or is there any podcast on this subject? also, how does the I phone work with automated answering machines. or the electronic voice mail for example when I call the bus company I will get a message saying press 1 for bus schedule information or 0 to talk to someone ect. The phone I now have some times has problems with that. is there any websights or e-mail list devoted to this subject? Bill Deatherage From oyvind at lode.is Sat Feb 19 13:17:47 2011 From: oyvind at lode.is (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8yvind_Lode?=) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:17:47 +0000 Subject: learning to use the I Phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The online manual: http://help.apple.com/iphone/4/voiceover/en/ Read the accessibility/Voice Over chapter first. I know of 2 mailing lists: aiPhone on Yahoo Groups and viPhone on Google groups. You should not have any problems using the bus schedule and similar systems. When on the phone and with VO running the default is to display the keypad. But you'll have to remove the phone from your ear to be able to type on the keypad. It's a learning curve, but easy as soon as you master the on screen keyboard. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Deatherage Sent: 19. februar 2011 13:32 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: learning to use the I Phone Hello, I am planning to get the I Phone soon. I have a few questions: first of all, does anyone have any suggestions on how to learn how to use it. is the manuals on line? or is there any podcast on this subject? also, how does the I phone work with automated answering machines. or the electronic voice mail for example when I call the bus company I will get a message saying press 1 for bus schedule information or 0 to talk to someone ect. The phone I now have some times has problems with that. is there any websights or e-mail list devoted to this subject? Bill Deatherage _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris at mysticplace.info Sat Feb 19 13:30:56 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:30:56 -0500 Subject: learning to use the I Phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110219083055.FDA6.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> I am having trouble figuring out the best way to hangup a call. Any suggestions? I've done it but can't figure out exactly how. Thanks Chris On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 07:32:07 -0500 William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I am planning to get the I Phone soon. I have a few questions: first of all, does anyone have any suggestions on how to learn how to use it. is the manuals on line? or is there any podcast on this subject? also, how does the I phone work with automated answering machines. or the electronic voice mail for example when I call the bus company I will get a message saying press 1 for bus schedule information or 0 to talk to someone ect. The phone I now have some times has problems with that. is there any websights or e-mail list devoted to this subject? > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From oyvind at lode.is Sat Feb 19 15:22:33 2011 From: oyvind at lode.is (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8yvind_Lode?=) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:22:33 +0000 Subject: learning to use the I Phone In-Reply-To: <20110219083055.FDA6.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <20110219083055.FDA6.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: Remove the phone from your face and do a double tap to hang up the call. Pressing the power button will also hang up the phone call. Double tap the End call button will also do the trick. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: 19. februar 2011 14:31 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: learning to use the I Phone I am having trouble figuring out the best way to hangup a call. Any suggestions? I've done it but can't figure out exactly how. Thanks Chris On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 07:32:07 -0500 William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I am planning to get the I Phone soon. I have a few questions: first of all, does anyone have any suggestions on how to learn how to use it. is the manuals on line? or is there any podcast on this subject? also, how does the I phone work with automated answering machines. or the electronic voice mail for example when I call the bus company I will get a message saying press 1 for bus schedule information or 0 to talk to someone ect. The phone I now have some times has problems with that. is there any websights or e-mail list devoted to this subject? > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 19 15:20:51 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:20:51 -0600 Subject: determining status of buddy in AIM using VO Message-ID: <98FEE130-CC35-4015-943C-6E37D67AB18B@sbcglobal.net> When in buddy list, is it possible to know if a person listed is idol? Perhaps by knowing the font color, but how is this done? From oyvind at lode.is Sat Feb 19 15:27:10 2011 From: oyvind at lode.is (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8yvind_Lode?=) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:27:10 +0000 Subject: learning to use the I Phone In-Reply-To: References: <20110219083055.FDA6.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: That is double tap with 2 fingers anywhere on the screen to hang up the call. And double tap with one finger on the End call button. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of ?yvind Lode Sent: 19. februar 2011 16:23 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: RE: learning to use the I Phone Remove the phone from your face and do a double tap to hang up the call. Pressing the power button will also hang up the phone call. Double tap the End call button will also do the trick. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: 19. februar 2011 14:31 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: learning to use the I Phone I am having trouble figuring out the best way to hangup a call. Any suggestions? I've done it but can't figure out exactly how. Thanks Chris On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 07:32:07 -0500 William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I am planning to get the I Phone soon. I have a few questions: first of all, does anyone have any suggestions on how to learn how to use it. is the manuals on line? or is there any podcast on this subject? also, how does the I phone work with automated answering machines. or the electronic voice mail for example when I call the bus company I will get a message saying press 1 for bus schedule information or 0 to talk to someone ect. The phone I now have some times has problems with that. is there any websights or e-mail list devoted to this subject? > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris at mysticplace.info Sat Feb 19 15:29:29 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 10:29:29 -0500 Subject: learning to use the I Phone In-Reply-To: References: <20110219083055.FDA6.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <20110219102928.E3F0.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Thanks for all the options. Power button seems to be the best for me. Chris On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:22:33 +0000 ?yvind Lode wrote: > Remove the phone from your face and do a double tap to hang up the call. > Pressing the power button will also hang up the phone call. > Double tap the End call button will also do the trick. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris G > Sent: 19. februar 2011 14:31 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: learning to use the I Phone > > I am having trouble figuring out the best way to hangup a call. > > Any suggestions? > > I've done it but can't figure out exactly how. > > Thanks > Chris > > > > On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 07:32:07 -0500 > William Deatherage wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am planning to get the I Phone soon. I have a few questions: first of all, does anyone have any suggestions on how to learn how to use it. is the manuals on line? or is there any podcast on this subject? also, how does the I phone work with automated answering machines. or the electronic voice mail for example when I call the bus company I will get a message saying press 1 for bus schedule information or 0 to talk to someone ect. The phone I now have some times has problems with that. is there any websights or e-mail list devoted to this subject? > > Bill Deatherage > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > > > - > The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. > http://www.mysticplace.info > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From abreier at kc.rr.com Sat Feb 19 17:36:45 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:36:45 -0600 Subject: learning to use the I Phone References: <20110219083055.FDA6.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <9166E0F7908349939ABC7F8B23AA01FA@andrea78cdd59a> While on the phone and having to navigate menus, you might have better luck hearing vo by using your apple headset. You can slide you finger around while the menus are reading and still be able to hear the speech. Using a double tap with two fingers spaced on the screen will disconnect. My best regards to you all, Andrea M. Breier Spread the laughter Share the cheer Let's be happy While we're here! NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris G" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:30 AM Subject: Re: learning to use the I Phone >I am having trouble figuring out the best way to hangup a call. > > Any suggestions? > > I've done it but can't figure out exactly how. > > Thanks > Chris > > > > On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 07:32:07 -0500 > William Deatherage wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am planning to get the I Phone soon. I have a few questions: first of >> all, does anyone have any suggestions on how to learn how to use it. is >> the manuals on line? or is there any podcast on this subject? also, how >> does the I phone work with automated answering machines. or the >> electronic voice mail for example when I call the bus company I will get >> a message saying press 1 for bus schedule information or 0 to talk to >> someone ect. The phone I now have some times has problems with that. >> is there any websights or e-mail list devoted to this subject? >> Bill Deatherage >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > > - > The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. > http://www.mysticplace.info > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 19:31:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:31:39 -0800 Subject: New MacBook Pros Likely to Launch on Thursday, February 24th Message-ID: <2D8F0827-DF50-43FB-BE27-F0155EB2EB90@gmail.com> What will these new mbps have that the older ones don't? read more. http://bit.ly/fxaV2l From support at mac-access.net Sat Feb 19 20:02:38 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:02:38 +0000 Subject: Delayed Support Message-ID: Hello everybody We are aware that there are a couple of support requests outstanding from members. I would like to apologise for the delay in attending to them. We have been experiencing some unexpected issues here over the last couple of days which have impacted on our ability to respond to the support requests. Please understand, members, that Gordon and I run this entire operation ourselves locally, without on-site assistance. If anything goes wrong, we have no means of addressing the issues you raise any sooner. I am aware of at least one support complaint regarding slow response. But I ask for your patience and understanbding at this difficult time. We will address your requests as soon as possible. I also remind members that, should they have any list related queries which require rapid response while we are unavailable, you may contact our assistant list controllers: Anne Robertson or: James Austin who would, if possible, be happy to help you I feel sure. Once again, please accept Gordon and my apologies for the unusually sluggish response to your requests. We will address them at the earliest possible opportunity. Lynne From gunn at tznet.com Sat Feb 19 20:52:09 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:52:09 -0600 Subject: good case for the iPhone In-Reply-To: <9DE03353-0D23-45E0-AC56-F225BE5A0E64@mac-access.net> References: <9DE03353-0D23-45E0-AC56-F225BE5A0E64@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6C342127-9CBE-47E7-B38D-C72A23826276@tznet.com> Hello: If you have a 3GS iPhone, I just upgraded to an iPhone4 and have the OtterBox Deffender case I would be willing to sell. Just write me off list if you are interested, gunn at tznet.com. John On Feb 19, 2011, at 12:02 AM, Justin Mann wrote: > Hi all, > It's time for me to invest in an iPhone case again. Does anybody have any recommendations? I had my iPhone in the dock, and my 17-month-old daughter broke my griffin reveal > Thanks much > Justin > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 19 21:15:06 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:15:06 -0600 Subject: Burning a cd using the remote disc feature In-Reply-To: <65F0A309-1D66-4CBA-BB26-8D61A999500C@gmail.com> References: <8D5A1CA1-D5E5-4F52-9245-8674E4A228BC@gmail.com> <56AFCAB6-E83B-400C-AD03-E3801C08EBD4@gmail.com> <4A98D5B3-EDEA-4C77-9AE4-8850D78CC527@mac.com> <77D4965B-8129-4F3C-910C-A88E928B1AC1@softcon.com> <12E125F4-DEEE-4EE2-8409-9175FB18003C@mac.com> <65F0A309-1D66-4CBA-BB26-8D61A999500C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4065FBC5-5CD0-4321-9E0D-579F00034384@softcon.com> On Feb 18, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > lol! I have to learn this apple script. I'm not that good at it but > that's for another day. > > Actually, that's unix scripting. The same thing in apple script > would look like this: ** cut here** set command to "ifconfig|grep broadcast|awk '{print $2}';" as string do shell script command **cut here** This might actually be something you could use by turning it into an app by compiling the apple script, then just drop it into your applications folder. Then, anytime you want to know your ip, without having to go to the terminal, you can just click the app, and poof, instant list of ips on your machine.. That might be easier for folks who aren't terminal jockeys. (now, why didn't I think of that?) From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 19 21:21:08 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:21:08 -0600 Subject: Questions about login items and terminal. In-Reply-To: <0FA25668-815A-42C3-8BF4-6FBB34EECC27@me.com> References: <0FA25668-815A-42C3-8BF4-6FBB34EECC27@me.com> Message-ID: <94823F52-5B31-49B6-B634-16B295AFB2A2@softcon.com> The "64 bytes from ..." that you mention is the positive affirmation that your ping command worked. If the device is not responding, then you will get no output at all, and when you press control-c, the ping command will tell you that x packets were sent, and 0 were received. This tells you that the device you were trying to ping was not responding to ping requests, and therefore, is likely not accessible via the network. Of course, there's other reasons for the ping not to work, but in general, this is the way it works. So, your testing is working, and you're already reviewing the output via voiceover, or you wouldn't know it returned the 64 bytes from response. :) Hope this helps. From support at mac-access.net Sat Feb 19 22:03:20 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:03:20 +0000 Subject: Free Update to "Take Control of iPhone Basics" Now Available from Mac Access Dot Net Message-ID: Hello everybody There has been quite a bit of change to the iPhone since the "Take Control Of iPhone Basics, iOS 4 Edition" which was released in September 2010 (including, notably, the release of the Verizon iPhone 4, which will make the iPhone accessible to many more people in the US who have never before used iOS and could use some help getting started). So author Karen Anderson has taken a pass through the ebook in order to bring it up to date. And for those of you who would like to get more out of the iPhone's ringtone options, Karen added an appendix that discusses several ways to make and buy ringtones. This book is available free of charge to those who bought the 1.0 release from Mac Access Dot Net. All you have to do is contact and let us know. We will add the update to your bookshelf if you have one. if you are one of those who didn't bother to contact us after we made the bookshelf feature available, please send us a copy of your initial email from us, which will serve as proof of purchase. Then we will create a bookshelf for you if you let us know which books you have bought, and send us proof of purchase. We have already located a couple of such emails, and will be contacting those users in due course with details of their bookshelves. Thank you. Lynne From billd at insightbb.com Sun Feb 20 00:14:01 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:14:01 -0500 Subject: i got the I Phone Message-ID: <7465CF09-6E2A-40DE-8572-BF7815E1468F@insightbb.com> Hello to all, i got the i Phone today. I have been able to use it to make calls and answering. I like the missed calls feature. i can't wait to learn how to use some of the other features like checking the weather. I am now having some issues with setting up voice mail. turning the Y Fi feature on ect. i have a lot to learn but I am having fun doing it. Thanks to all who has given me advice on the list. Bill Deatherage? From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 00:14:46 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:14:46 -0800 Subject: Apple 'Safe Deposit Box' Patent Revealed Ahead of Mac OS X Lion Message-ID: Is This like true cript, which btw i have not used? read on: http://bit.ly/eecp5S From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 00:15:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:15:57 -0800 Subject: Burning a cd using the remote disc feature In-Reply-To: <4065FBC5-5CD0-4321-9E0D-579F00034384@softcon.com> References: <8D5A1CA1-D5E5-4F52-9245-8674E4A228BC@gmail.com> <56AFCAB6-E83B-400C-AD03-E3801C08EBD4@gmail.com> <4A98D5B3-EDEA-4C77-9AE4-8850D78CC527@mac.com> <77D4965B-8129-4F3C-910C-A88E928B1AC1@softcon.com> <12E125F4-DEEE-4EE2-8409-9175FB18003C@mac.com> <65F0A309-1D66-4CBA-BB26-8D61A999500C@gmail.com> <4065FBC5-5CD0-4321-9E0D-579F00034384@softcon.com> Message-ID: <4A7C1474-44B2-4EE9-BB0C-F5C7373DB8C6@gmail.com> Yeah true. and sorry about the mistake. but good idea and good luck. S On Feb 19, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > > On Feb 18, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> lol! I have to learn this apple script. I'm not that good at it but that's for another day. >> >> Actually, that's unix scripting. The same thing in apple script would look like this: > > ** cut here** > set command to "ifconfig|grep broadcast|awk '{print $2}';" as string > do shell script command > > **cut here** > This might actually be something you could use by turning it into an app by compiling the apple script, then just drop it into your applications folder. Then, anytime you want to know your ip, without having to go to the terminal, you can just click the app, and poof, instant list of ips on your machine.. That might be easier for folks who aren't terminal jockeys. > (now, why didn't I think of that?) > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 00:32:37 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:32:37 -0800 Subject: i got the I Phone In-Reply-To: <7465CF09-6E2A-40DE-8572-BF7815E1468F@insightbb.com> References: <7465CF09-6E2A-40DE-8572-BF7815E1468F@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <090B4B1D-6DFE-4E66-8DC9-02DBCABA3F0C@gmail.com> cool deal. I love my iphone and use it for almost everything. Just practice using it and you will be fast at it. that's the only good advice I can give is to use it and make mistakes. I still make them. lol! On Feb 19, 2011, at 4:14 PM, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello to all, > i got the i Phone today. I have been able to use it to make calls and answering. I like the missed calls feature. i can't wait to learn how to use some of the other features like checking the weather. I am now having some issues with setting up voice mail. turning the Y Fi feature on ect. i have a lot to learn but I am having fun doing it. Thanks to all who has given me advice on the list. > Bill Deatherage? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From abreier at kc.rr.com Sun Feb 20 00:57:08 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:57:08 -0600 Subject: i got the I Phone References: <7465CF09-6E2A-40DE-8572-BF7815E1468F@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Plug in your headset. Then double tap and hold on the number 1 key this should get you into voice mail. Have a blast, I just know you will! My best regards to you all, Andrea M. Breier Spread the laughter Share the cheer Let's be happy While we're here! NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Deatherage" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:14 PM Subject: i got the I Phone Hello to all, i got the i Phone today. I have been able to use it to make calls and answering. I like the missed calls feature. i can't wait to learn how to use some of the other features like checking the weather. I am now having some issues with setting up voice mail. turning the Y Fi feature on ect. i have a lot to learn but I am having fun doing it. Thanks to all who has given me advice on the list. Bill Deatherage? _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From billd at insightbb.com Sun Feb 20 02:15:51 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:15:51 -0500 Subject: i got the I Phone In-Reply-To: References: <7465CF09-6E2A-40DE-8572-BF7815E1468F@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <57D9F266-B80A-446A-8533-A0E5E10C5927@insightbb.com> Hello, Thank you for the information. I tried that but must be doing something wrong. I double tapped the 1 key and it would beep and that was it I couldn't get it to hold. I am not sure what I am doing wrong but it didn't work for me. I am sure there is something I am not doing wright. Bill Deatherage From abreier at kc.rr.com Sun Feb 20 03:07:31 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:07:31 -0600 Subject: i got the I Phone References: <7465CF09-6E2A-40DE-8572-BF7815E1468F@insightbb.com> <57D9F266-B80A-446A-8533-A0E5E10C5927@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <8C2CEB63F1E649CE9A3FCFAC3F6FA8BB@andrea78cdd59a> You haven't switched to touch typing mode have you? If not. get to the keyboard again. Make sure there are no numbers in the phone number field, then double tap a few times on the delete button to make sure all numbers are gone. If you are deleting numbers you will hear the number that is being removed. If you only hear delete, there are no numbers there to delete. The delete key is located directly below the pound key. Then you are going to tap once quickly then tap again very quickly holding your finger firmly and you will hear a long phone tone just as you would if you were holding a number key down on a regular old time push button phone. Hold thie for 2 or 3 seconds and this will take you into the voice mail setup. Once you get this done you won't have to do it again. LOL Keep working on it, and you will get it. My best regards to you all, Andrea M. Breier Spread the laughter Share the cheer Let's be happy While we're here! NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Deatherage" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 8:15 PM Subject: Re: i got the I Phone > Hello, > Thank you for the information. I tried that but must be doing something > wrong. I double tapped the 1 key and it would beep and that was it I > couldn't get it to hold. > I am not sure what I am doing wrong but it didn't work for me. > I am sure there is something I am not doing wright. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Sun Feb 20 04:24:53 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:24:53 -0500 Subject: turning speach on and off Message-ID: <4E8C04BC-8EAB-4A63-BA2D-53C4F35DFED7@insightbb.com> Hello, My wife was looking at my phone. She is also blind. she accidentally turned the speach off. is there a way you can turn the speach back on with out reading the screens. Bill Deatherage From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 20 05:12:29 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:12:29 -1000 Subject: turning speach on and off In-Reply-To: <4E8C04BC-8EAB-4A63-BA2D-53C4F35DFED7@insightbb.com> References: <4E8C04BC-8EAB-4A63-BA2D-53C4F35DFED7@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <1D0C7B2B-D14F-4619-876F-E6B5BC83EA99@mac.com> Hi Bill, Check is to make sure you did not accidentally turn muting on by pressing down the rectangular switch at the top left of the iPhone (above the volume up and volume down buttons). It should be flipped up. You can also check whether you can hear speech through the headphones. If that doesn't work, try doing a three-finger double tap, and make sure that your fingers are spread apart. If VoiceOver is running, and your phone speakers are not muted by the switch, you should hear it say "Speech On". A second three-finger double tap should let you hear "Speech Off". Apart from that, try doing a two finger flick up "Read all" on the home screen and pressing the volume up button to check whether your volume level is set really low. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 19, 2011, at 18:24, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > My wife was looking at my phone. She is also blind. she accidentally turned the speach off. is there a way you can turn the speach back on with out reading the screens. > Bill Deatherage From simon at scavendish.co.uk Sun Feb 20 09:25:35 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:25:35 +0000 Subject: i got the I Phone In-Reply-To: References: <7465CF09-6E2A-40DE-8572-BF7815E1468F@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <98BCFD8D-4B24-4E13-96A6-64B233F0E288@scavendish.co.uk> Andrea, what's number 1 key? Do you mean on the numeric keypad? Will it have appeared, or do you mean some other physical key on the iPhone? Simon On 20 Feb 2011, at 00:57, Andrea Breier wrote: > Plug in your headset. Then double tap and hold on the number 1 key this should get you into voice mail. Have a blast, I just know you will! > My best regards to you all, > > Andrea M. Breier > > Spread the laughter > Share the cheer > Let's be happy > While we're here! > > NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. > > Thank you. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Deatherage" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:14 PM > Subject: i got the I Phone > > > Hello to all, > i got the i Phone today. I have been able to use it to make calls and answering. I like the missed calls feature. i can't wait to learn how to use some of the other features like checking the weather. I am now having some issues with setting up voice mail. turning the Y Fi feature on ect. i have a lot to learn but I am having fun doing it. Thanks to all who has given me advice on the list. > Bill Deatherage? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 20 11:08:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:08:57 +0000 Subject: On the go again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Nic; sorry for the delay. I hope you won't think me ignorant. ? On 18 Feb 2011, at 08:48, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hello Lynne, I just tested this, and it seemed to work just fine. Not here; it won't allow us to remove the network. The reason we need to remove it is that the particular network in question no longer exists and the system is trying to connect to it on start-up. Lynne From w9fyi at mac-access.net Sun Feb 20 11:11:33 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 04:11:33 -0700 Subject: an accessible flight simulator for the mac Message-ID: <0E3EC880-47AE-4507-A08E-E47495BC7956@mac-access.net> Hi all, Does anybody now of an accessible flight simulator for the mac? I know this is a long shot, but I have some friends who play with vatsim which is a virtual airport, and it would be neat to try that out. Thanks From gordon at mac-access.net Sun Feb 20 11:22:36 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:22:36 +0000 Subject: On the go again In-Reply-To: References: <024ACF17-BC87-481F-9A53-AA39B6957233@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2B5D217A-168F-45E8-99D9-8742323EC941@mac-access.net> Hi Nic We can't remove the network, it won't allow us to do so. Lynne has tried with the trackpad, (without VoiceOver). She's pretty good at that sort of thing usually. But the network name won't go away. Each time we click the OK button, then check the list again, it's back. Gordon On 18 Feb 2011, at 09:50, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hello Lynne, There is no reason that it should not. If you remove it from the Preferred list, it will no longer connect automatically. It will, however, still remember the passwords but does not connect unless you click it from the Airport menu. The password is stored in the Keychain, and can be found by hitting Command-Option-F to go to the search field. As another note...it may be worth clicking "Ok" then "Apply" for good measure. You can then safely either disconnect airport then reconnect, or simply disconnect your Airport from the network itself. I just checked it with my secured network. Other than that, there are no other settings which control this as far as I can see. At least, nothing jumps out. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Sun Feb 20 11:27:20 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:27:20 +0000 Subject: On the go again In-Reply-To: <89458EBF-7936-45C1-AF2E-727DE241C31F@softcon.com> References: <89458EBF-7936-45C1-AF2E-727DE241C31F@softcon.com> Message-ID: <94C3FD36-C0A4-416C-A1CC-7A48D37CD67B@mac-access.net> Hi TYravis Yeah, I actually looked in there. It seems to contain servers, but not networks. But it did help me to cure one irritating problem by removing a pref file for a server stored in there. Gordon On 18 Feb 2011, at 15:05, Travis Siegel wrote: On my version of OSX (10.5.8) there is a list of previous servers I've connected to, though these don't appear to be networks, though it may help anyway. It's in my ~/library/Recent servers folder. Removing those files should allow you to begin from scratch, adding servers as you come across them, and hopefully that will remove them from the network list too, though I've not (yet) found actual networks I've connected to, though I'd wager they're somewhere in that ~/library mess somewhere. I'll keep looking. From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Sun Feb 20 11:49:21 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:49:21 +0000 Subject: On the go again In-Reply-To: <2B5D217A-168F-45E8-99D9-8742323EC941@mac-access.net> References: <024ACF17-BC87-481F-9A53-AA39B6957233@mac-access.net> <2B5D217A-168F-45E8-99D9-8742323EC941@mac-access.net> Message-ID: If you don't mind a suggestion from a numpty...have you tried changing the name of the old network? As I am a user not an abuser I know this is likely to be too simple to be the answer but thought I would throw it in to the pot. Regards G From glorious Devon, England. On 20 Feb 2011, at 11:22, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Nic > > We can't remove the network, it won't allow us to do so. Lynne has tried with the trackpad, (without VoiceOver). She's pretty good at that sort of thing usually. But the network name won't go away. Each time we click the OK button, then check the list again, it's back. From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 20 12:14:00 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:14:00 +0000 Subject: Back In Business! In-Reply-To: References: <2FDF5DDE-53B1-449A-BD05-AB9C40CCCB5E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2F7EE4D2-8160-4412-A932-0ECDC1DA58C1@mac-access.net> Hello Kristeen May I say that's a very unusual spelling of your name. On 18 Feb 2011, at 18:56, Kristeen Hughes wrote: ? That's incredible divotion and quite awesome! Gordon and I take our commitments very seriously and we do our very best to keep them. We did have one or two clients who simply didn't seem to understand why the service went down, despite the fact that we sent them all very exhaustive explanations as to what was going to happen. We also sent them information on the problem we encountered which caused the extended outage. But it seems that some people just either didn't read the information we sent them, didn't understand it, or simply couldn't be bothered waiting for the service to come back up, which it obvious now has. So we shed a couple of clients. But the vast majority of people, including all but one member of this group, have been very understanding; and we thank them all for that. As I said earlier, we are expanding the service we offer our clients and very soon will be posting an announcement regarding webmail, iCal, iChat and more. This isn't the place really for that; so clients, watch the support list. From abreier at kc.rr.com Sun Feb 20 13:01:09 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 07:01:09 -0600 Subject: i got the I Phone References: <7465CF09-6E2A-40DE-8572-BF7815E1468F@insightbb.com> <98BCFD8D-4B24-4E13-96A6-64B233F0E288@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: <6EDE201566234DFA85B79029EB56ED5F@andrea78cdd59a> No you will need to bring up the telephone keypad. To do this: locate the phone app located in the bottom left of your screen. Double tap to open it. Now you have 4 new items listed in the row where your phone app was listed before. They are favorites, recent, contacts, keypad and voice mail. Double tap on keypad to bring your telephone keypad. This is how you can dial phone numbers that are not listed in your favorites. But for now, find the number one key and then start the directions from my last message. Let us know how it goes for you. My best regards to you all, Andrea M. Breier Spread the laughter Share the cheer Let's be happy While we're here! NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Cavendish" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 3:25 AM Subject: Re: i got the I Phone Andrea, what's number 1 key? Do you mean on the numeric keypad? Will it have appeared, or do you mean some other physical key on the iPhone? Simon On 20 Feb 2011, at 00:57, Andrea Breier wrote: > Plug in your headset. Then double tap and hold on the number 1 key this > should get you into voice mail. Have a blast, I just know you will! > My best regards to you all, > > Andrea M. Breier > > Spread the laughter > Share the cheer > Let's be happy > While we're here! > > NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your > obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message > by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the > net. > > Thank you. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Deatherage" > > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:14 PM > Subject: i got the I Phone > > > Hello to all, > i got the i Phone today. I have been able to use it to make calls and > answering. I like the missed calls feature. i can't wait to learn how to > use some of the other features like checking the weather. I am now > having some issues with setting up voice mail. turning the Y Fi feature > on ect. i have a lot to learn but I am having fun doing it. Thanks to > all who has given me advice on the list. > Bill Deatherage? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From simon at scavendish.co.uk Sun Feb 20 13:32:05 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:32:05 +0000 Subject: i got the I Phone In-Reply-To: <6EDE201566234DFA85B79029EB56ED5F@andrea78cdd59a> References: <7465CF09-6E2A-40DE-8572-BF7815E1468F@insightbb.com> <98BCFD8D-4B24-4E13-96A6-64B233F0E288@scavendish.co.uk> <6EDE201566234DFA85B79029EB56ED5F@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <4C6A7088-BD5B-4EFD-925F-606330378EBB@scavendish.co.uk> Thanks, Andrea, that's great, now I understand. Simon On 20 Feb 2011, at 13:01, Andrea Breier wrote: > No you will need to bring up the telephone keypad. To do this: > locate the phone app located in the bottom left of your screen. Double tap to open it. Now you have 4 new items listed in the row where your phone app was listed before. They are favorites, recent, contacts, keypad and voice mail. Double tap on keypad to bring your telephone keypad. This is how you can dial phone numbers that are not listed in your favorites. But for now, find the number one key and then start the directions from my last message. Let us know how it goes for you. > My best regards to you all, > > Andrea M. Breier > > Spread the laughter > Share the cheer > Let's be happy > While we're here! > > NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. > > Thank you. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Cavendish" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 3:25 AM > Subject: Re: i got the I Phone > > > Andrea, what's number 1 key? Do you mean on the numeric keypad? Will it have appeared, or do you mean some other physical key on the iPhone? > > Simon > On 20 Feb 2011, at 00:57, Andrea Breier wrote: > >> Plug in your headset. Then double tap and hold on the number 1 key this should get you into voice mail. Have a blast, I just know you will! >> My best regards to you all, >> >> Andrea M. Breier >> >> Spread the laughter >> Share the cheer >> Let's be happy >> While we're here! >> >> NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. >> >> Thank you. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Deatherage" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:14 PM >> Subject: i got the I Phone >> >> >> Hello to all, >> i got the i Phone today. I have been able to use it to make calls and answering. I like the missed calls feature. i can't wait to learn how to use some of the other features like checking the weather. I am now having some issues with setting up voice mail. turning the Y Fi feature on ect. i have a lot to learn but I am having fun doing it. Thanks to all who has given me advice on the list. >> Bill Deatherage? >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 20:48:47 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:48:47 -0600 Subject: iWork Numbers Detailed Look Message-ID: Apple iWork Numbers detailed look: selection, formulas, fills, styles and more. http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 20 22:57:02 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:57:02 -1000 Subject: "Readability" in Safari [was Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers] In-Reply-To: <227F75EF-4A38-48F3-AB72-92CB8C4E8B38@mac-access.net> References: <227F75EF-4A38-48F3-AB72-92CB8C4E8B38@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0A6412B5-009C-49BC-9B91-988B6CE26B89@mac.com> Hi All, This is a follow-up to my post of last week responding to Lynne's question about web pages with small fonts that are difficult to read for even non visually impaired users, especially on mobile devices like the iPhone or iPad. There is a web site called "Readability" that for the last year or so has been been experimenting with re-formatting web pages into more reader-friendly form. This specifically includes features that also make it easier for low-vision users to read these pages by using options like large fonts and high-contrast backgrounds (where the text colors are inverted, but images are left alone, unlike the "white on black" setting under Universal Access for the Mac). The re-formatting is accomplished by using a web bookmarklet that the user saves to his or her Bookmarks Bar. However, the reason this action is also useful for blind users is that this reformatting also simplifies the layout of web pages where you are reading text content by removing extraneous images for advertisements, and secondary text, making it simpler to both navigate and read. In mobile browsers, for example, this can mean that when you are reading an article on a blog page which you have reformatted using the Readability bookmarklet, and you want to navigate to a link in the article, you do not have to navigate through the multiple other links that might be on that page for archives, subjects, other resources, advertisements, etc., and you can always just read continuously. For the general reader, the Readability bookmarklet is intended to remove "visual clutter" by giving space to the main text (which can also be made larger or displayed against a high contrast background). Since the reformatted page contains a control that lets you reload the original page, it is also easy to go back to the full page content, should you choose. As I explained last week, the way that web bookmarklets work is that you activate them the same way you do regular bookmarks, but instead of containing a URL in the address field that directs you to a new web page, they contain javascript code that operates on the contents of the current web page. This could perform as simple a function as changing the font size for text to 18 or 20 point (larger) type, as in the example I posted then, or it could do more extensive reformatting of contents, margins, colors, and their presentation as in the case of the Readability bookmarklet, which is customizable. Note that for web bookmarklets to work, JavaScript must be enabled for your browser, which I believe is the default setting for Safari on the Mac and on the iDevices. (You can check by bringing up Preferences with Command-Comma, and viewing the "Security" pane to see whether this option is checked in Safari; on the iDevices, the switch is displayed in the main Settings menu under "Settings > Safari".) There are some additional benefits for low-vision users on mobile devices like the iPhone. If they use zoom mode, they have to pan around the screen to read the text content. Because the Readability bookmarklet can reformat web pages to use wide margins (limiting the text, which is already displayed in enlarged fonts, to a narrower center section of the Safari web page), the amount of panning is drastically reduced. Also, the selection is either between the zoom mode or VoiceOver mode accessibility options. This allows zoom-like features of larger fonts in web pages, while simultaneously using VoiceOver, and optionally displaying the text in high contrast format. Finally, only the colors on text are inverted -- images in articles retain their original colors, unlike the case with the "white on black" setting. These features apply as much to the regular Safari web pages on your computer as to the mobile browsers. To get the Readability web bookmarklet, you can go to the following web page, and use item chooser menu to find the "Readability" link. (This is the Spanish version of the lab.arc90.com experiments page for readability -- the English version was replaced by a different page at the end of January.) The following instructions will work. You will find it simpler to navigate your Bookmarks page to paste in the web bookmarklet link information if you ensure that your Safari Bookmarks bar and toolbar are hidden before you start. Toggle these on or off with Command-Shift-b and Command-Shift-Backslash. Alternatively, you can find the options to "Hide Bookmarks Bar" and "Hide Toolbar" and any applicable shortcuts for your language in the "View" menu on your Safari menu bar (Control-F2 or VO-m to the menu bar, press "v" to go to the "View" menu, and arrow down). VoiceOver users can just copy the bookmarklet with its default settings. Sighted and low vision users can change the appearance of the screen by selecting radio buttons for style (e.g. inverted, for high contrast; largest font size; narrowest margins) before copying the bookmarklet. To create a "Readability" bookmarklet: 1. From Safari on your Mac, navigate to: http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/es/ 2. Use Command-D to create a new bookmark. Type in a name like "Readability" to shorten the default page name, and set the pop up button for location to "Bookmarks Bar" (VO-Space, then use your arrow keys). 3. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to find the "Readability" link (press "l i n" in quick succession, then press "r" to find the link, and VO-Space to go to the link). 4. Use the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and VO-Down arrow to "Copy Link" and VO-Space. 5. Press Command-Option-B to go to the "Show All Bookmarks" page 6. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to go to the "Bookmarks Bar" (press "b" then VO-Space). 7. Route your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor (VO-Command-F5) and click to select the "Bookmarks Bar" (VO-Shift-Space). 8. Press VO-Command-T to move to the table of bookmarks in the Bookmarks Bar and interact (VO-Shift-Down arrow). You should be at the first entry, which is the "Readability" bookmark you just created. 9. Bring up the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and press "a" to select "Edit Address" and press Return. 10. Press the delete key then use Command-V to paste in the copied link (java script), then press return. For VoiceOver users, you're done, and you can toggle off the "Show All Bookmarks" page and return to your web page with either Command-Option-B or Command-Left Bracket. To use the "Readability" web bookmarklet, visit a web page with an article, and press Command-1 to reformat the page. For your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, sync your web bookmarks from computer to your device. Then, when you visit a web page that you want to reformat with the "Readability" bookmarklet, on the iPhone or iPod Touch double tap the "Bookmarks" button (4th of 5 at the bottom of your Safari screen) , flick right to the "Bookmarks Bar" and double tap, then flick right to the "Readability" bookmarklet and double tap to apply. On the iPad, the easiest way to access bookmarks is to go to the main Settings menu, and under "Settings > Safari" set the switch to "on" for "Always Show Bookmarks Bar". This will allow you to access the Bookmarks bar on the iPad by simply flicking right from the title bar, and activate the selected bookmark by double tapping. (I touch the Google search field in the top right corner of the screen and flick right from there.) The first element on the reformatted page is a "Reload Original Page" link, which will take you back to the original layout. You'll also be informed if "Readability" thinks there may be a problem in reformatting, so you can use this link. For blind VoiceOver users who may want to configure a web bookmarklet for a low vision user, the web page, the radio buttons on the page may be selected with item chooser menu (VO-I, press "r a d" in quick succession and then VO-Down arrow through the selections. These are announced in Spanish, but there are three sets of 5 buttons, which are for Style: 1) article, 2) novel, 3) eBook, 4) inverse, and 5) Athelas (a specific type font); Font size: 1) extra small, 2) small, 3) medium, 4) large, 5) extra large; and Margin size: 1) extra narrow, 2) narrow, 3) medium, 4) wide, and 5) extra wide. The default settings are Style: 1) article; Font size: 4) large; Margin size: 4) large. To change a value, use item chooser men to find the radio buttons, VO-down arrow to the selection you want to make and use VO-Space to move to the radio button on the web page. Then use VO-Space again to select that radio button. The likely settings you will want to choose are: 4) inverse (high contrast) for the Style, and you might want to make the font size and margins extra wide (option 5 in each case). Low vision and sighted users can experiment by selecting radio buttons and viewing the sample text layout on the page to select their options. The different styles (apart from "inverse") choose slightly different font types and page color backgrounds. Once you have adjusted the radio button settings to your satisfaction, follow the procedures for copying the suitably configured "Readability" link to your web bookmarklet. A quick explanation about why I'm pointing to the Spanish version of the page and posting these instructions now. The focus of the new Readability pages has shifted from designing readable web pages to using the pages to support authors publishing content on the web. So instead of taking you to a similar configuration web page in English, which is what was the case up to the end of January, you're now taken to a web page asking you to subscribe to the Readability service for $5/month, with most of the funds going to support authors of various web sites. While this may be a worthwhile service, I don't think this is what most visually impaired individuals will be looking for. The original lab.arc90.com web blogs mentioned exploring the use of this feature for visually impaired users, but there does not currently seem to be a way to give access to such individuals at the current pages unless they subscribe to these services. I am not, myself, a low vision user, so I can't judge the effectiveness or impact of this web bookmarklet. Most of my familiarity with the low vision accessibility features (apart from what I've read and followed on accessibility lists like this one) is based on setting up computers for sighted, but older relatives without vision impairment, but who want access to larger type fonts. This solution seems to work fine for them. I do recommend that you try the Readability bookmarklet out though, and I'd be interesting in getting feedback from low vision users about how well it works. I only found the Spanish version web page after doing a search because the English version pages (which had the same URL without the "/es" addition) now redirect people to the page with the subscription model support: https://www.readability.com/ I don't know how long the Spanish version will remain available and, to answer the obvious question, I've looked for pages in other languages like French, German, and Italian, and not found them. HTH. Cheers, Esther HTH. Cheers, Esther From billd at insightbb.com Mon Feb 21 00:20:09 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:20:09 -0500 Subject: thanks to all Message-ID: Hello, Thank you every one for all the helpful advice on using the I.Phone. i am making calls on it and I called the bank and bus company and used there automated services. I got into I Tunes but wasn't sure how to get into the Radio stations. if some could let me know how to do that i would appreciate it. i got into the johneras and found the list of music such as alternative and the last on the screen was christian and gospel. I also wanted to know how to get past that to the country music. again, thank you to everyone for all the valuable information. I appreciate being on this list and hearing all the good information. Bill deatherage billd at insightbb.com From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 00:37:47 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:37:47 -0600 Subject: Apex and iPhone Message-ID: <093DDBB3-F44F-4922-AA4C-524F9126B15E@gmail.com> What's specific procedure on getting Apex and iPHone to work well together? Sent from my iPhone From abreier at kc.rr.com Mon Feb 21 02:03:08 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:03:08 -0600 Subject: thanks to all References: Message-ID: Are you wanting to download an app to your phone to access radio stations? I haven't heard of radio stations in iTunes. My best regards to you all, Andrea M. Breier Spread the laughter Share the cheer Let's be happy While we're here! NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Deatherage" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 6:20 PM Subject: thanks to all > Hello, > Thank you every one for all the helpful advice on using the I.Phone. i am > making calls on it and I called the bank and bus company and used there > automated services. I got into I Tunes but wasn't sure how to get into > the Radio stations. if some could let me know how to do that i would > appreciate it. i got into the johneras and found the list of music such as > alternative and the last on the screen was christian and gospel. I also > wanted to know how to get past that to the country music. > again, thank you to everyone for all the valuable information. I > appreciate being on this list and hearing all the good information. > Bill deatherage > billd at insightbb.com > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Mon Feb 21 03:38:28 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:38:28 -0500 Subject: thanks to all In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8E64ABAB-E097-4C64-A7D4-68EFC5334FC5@insightbb.com> Hello, I thought there was different types of music you could listen to in I Tunes. I thought they were radio stations or maybe they were internet stations. Bill Deatherage From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 06:55:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:55:40 -0800 Subject: setting up dropbox Message-ID: Hello to all how do I set up dropbox/ I choose the link but I get system UI server has no windows and i can't enter in any log in info. Please help? S From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 08:02:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 00:02:56 -0800 Subject: my mail new message window looks funny. Message-ID: <51441778-6FF6-4F86-B95E-6A8384F53269@gmail.com> Hello to all. my mail message window when I start a new message looks funny. I see when I vo to then edit then customize headers then edit, edit. I can tab and it looks right but it doesn't read the labels even when I hit enter to jump between fields. Here is a screenshot of what I hope I mean. http://bit.ly/gbB48h Take care all and I really want this fixed. I tried reinstalling the update combo to fix this but no go. S From simon at scavendish.co.uk Mon Feb 21 08:03:34 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:03:34 +0000 Subject: "Readability" in Safari [was Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers] In-Reply-To: <0A6412B5-009C-49BC-9B91-988B6CE26B89@mac.com> References: <227F75EF-4A38-48F3-AB72-92CB8C4E8B38@mac-access.net> <0A6412B5-009C-49BC-9B91-988B6CE26B89@mac.com> Message-ID: Dear Esther, I am very grateful for the information and the accompanying instructions on how to use the readability reformatting service for blind and low vision users. I have just visited the Guardian website - one of the leading British newspapers - which is usually absolutely packed with links that one has to navigate through. I chose a particular article to read, loaded the page and then hit the readability bookmarklet. The page reformatted - although one doesn't get any feedback on when it is ready. (This is not a complaint, just information.) I kthen found the article very easily, and read through it successfully. there are just a few links left on the page after reformatting. The "load the original page" link is the first link on the page, and you can find it either by pressing the command to move to the beginning of the web page which I think is cvo+fn (on laptop)=shift left arrow, or you can find the link by calling up item chooser menu and typing the first letters of the word original. Then vo+space to select it and vo+space to activate it. Having a page like Gurdian's reformatted is an absolute boon. Thanks, Esther Simon On 20 Feb 2011, at 22:57, Esther wrote: > Hi All, > > This is a follow-up to my post of last week responding to Lynne's question about web pages with small fonts that are difficult to read for even non visually impaired users, especially on mobile devices like the iPhone or iPad. There is a web site called "Readability" that for the last year or so has been been experimenting with re-formatting web pages into more reader-friendly form. This specifically includes features that also make it easier for low-vision users to read these pages by using options like large fonts and high-contrast backgrounds (where the text colors are inverted, but images are left alone, unlike the "white on black" setting under Universal Access for the Mac). The re-formatting is accomplished by using a web bookmarklet that the user saves to his or her Bookmarks Bar. However, the reason this action is also useful for blind users is that this reformatting also simplifies the layout of web pages where you are reading text content by removing extraneous > images for advertisements, and secondary text, making it simpler to both navigate and read. In mobile browsers, for example, this can mean that when you are reading an article on a blog page which you have reformatted using the Readability bookmarklet, and you want to navigate to a link in the article, you do not have to navigate through the multiple other links that might be on that page for archives, subjects, other resources, advertisements, etc., and you can always just read continuously. For the general reader, the Readability bookmarklet is intended to remove "visual clutter" by giving space to the main text (which can also be made larger or displayed against a high contrast background). Since the reformatted page contains a control that lets you reload the original page, it is also easy to go back to the full page content, should you choose. As I explained last week, the way that web bookmarklets work is that you activate them the same way you do regular bookmarks > , but instead of containing a URL in the address field that directs you to a new web page, they contain javascript code that operates on the contents of the current web page. This could perform as simple a function as changing the font size for text to 18 or 20 point (larger) type, as in the example I posted then, or it could do more extensive reformatting of contents, margins, colors, and their presentation as in the case of the Readability bookmarklet, which is customizable. Note that for web bookmarklets to work, JavaScript must be enabled for your browser, which I believe is the default setting for Safari on the Mac and on the iDevices. (You can check by bringing up Preferences with Command-Comma, and viewing the "Security" pane to see whether this option is checked in Safari; on the iDevices, the switch is displayed in the main Settings menu under "Settings > Safari".) > > There are some additional benefits for low-vision users on mobile devices like the iPhone. If they use zoom mode, they have to pan around the screen to read the text content. Because the Readability bookmarklet can reformat web pages to use wide margins (limiting the text, which is already displayed in enlarged fonts, to a narrower center section of the Safari web page), the amount of panning is drastically reduced. Also, the selection is either between the zoom mode or VoiceOver mode accessibility options. This allows zoom-like features of larger fonts in web pages, while simultaneously using VoiceOver, and optionally displaying the text in high contrast format. Finally, only the colors on text are inverted -- images in articles retain their original colors, unlike the case with the "white on black" setting. These features apply as much to the regular Safari web pages on your computer as to the mobile browsers. > > To get the Readability web bookmarklet, you can go to the following web page, and use item chooser menu to find the "Readability" link. (This is the Spanish version of the lab.arc90.com experiments page for readability -- the English version was replaced by a different page at the end of January.) The following instructions will work. You will find it simpler to navigate your Bookmarks page to paste in the web bookmarklet link information if you ensure that your Safari Bookmarks bar and toolbar are hidden before you start. Toggle these on or off with Command-Shift-b and Command-Shift-Backslash. Alternatively, you can find the options to "Hide Bookmarks Bar" and "Hide Toolbar" and any applicable shortcuts for your language in the "View" menu on your Safari menu bar (Control-F2 or VO-m to the menu bar, press "v" to go to the "View" menu, and arrow down). VoiceOver users can just copy the bookmarklet with its default settings. Sighted and low vision users can change the ap > pearance of the screen by selecting radio buttons for style (e.g. inverted, for high contrast; largest font size; narrowest margins) before copying the bookmarklet. > > To create a "Readability" bookmarklet: > 1. From Safari on your Mac, navigate to: > http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/es/ > 2. Use Command-D to create a new bookmark. Type in a name like "Readability" to shorten the default page name, and set the pop up button for location to "Bookmarks Bar" (VO-Space, then use your arrow keys). > 3. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to find the "Readability" link (press "l i n" in quick succession, then press "r" to find the link, and VO-Space to go to the link). > 4. Use the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and VO-Down arrow to "Copy Link" and VO-Space. > 5. Press Command-Option-B to go to the "Show All Bookmarks" page > 6. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to go to the "Bookmarks Bar" (press "b" then VO-Space). > 7. Route your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor (VO-Command-F5) and click to select the "Bookmarks Bar" (VO-Shift-Space). > 8. Press VO-Command-T to move to the table of bookmarks in the Bookmarks Bar and interact (VO-Shift-Down arrow). You should be at the first entry, which is the "Readability" bookmark you just created. > 9. Bring up the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and press "a" to select "Edit Address" and press Return. > 10. Press the delete key then use Command-V to paste in the copied link (java script), then press return. > > For VoiceOver users, you're done, and you can toggle off the "Show All Bookmarks" page and return to your web page with either Command-Option-B or Command-Left Bracket. To use the "Readability" web bookmarklet, visit a web page with an article, and press Command-1 to reformat the page. For your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, sync your web bookmarks from computer to your device. Then, when you visit a web page that you want to reformat with the "Readability" bookmarklet, on the iPhone or iPod Touch double tap the "Bookmarks" button (4th of 5 at the bottom of your Safari screen) , flick right to the "Bookmarks Bar" and double tap, then flick right to the "Readability" bookmarklet and double tap to apply. On the iPad, the easiest way to access bookmarks is to go to the main Settings menu, and under "Settings > Safari" set the switch to "on" for "Always Show Bookmarks Bar". This will allow you to access the Bookmarks bar on the iPad by simply flicking right from the title bar, > and activate the selected bookmark by double tapping. (I touch the Google search field in the top right corner of the screen and flick right from there.) The first element on the reformatted page is a "Reload Original Page" link, which will take you back to the original layout. You'll also be informed if "Readability" thinks there may be a problem in reformatting, so you can use this link. > > For blind VoiceOver users who may want to configure a web bookmarklet for a low vision user, the web page, the radio buttons on the page may be selected with item chooser menu (VO-I, press "r a d" in quick succession and then VO-Down arrow through the selections. These are announced in Spanish, but there are three sets of 5 buttons, which are for Style: 1) article, 2) novel, 3) eBook, 4) inverse, and 5) Athelas (a specific type font); Font size: 1) extra small, 2) small, 3) medium, 4) large, 5) extra large; and Margin size: 1) extra narrow, 2) narrow, 3) medium, 4) wide, and 5) extra wide. The default settings are Style: 1) article; Font size: 4) large; Margin size: 4) large. To change a value, use item chooser men to find the radio buttons, VO-down arrow to the selection you want to make and use VO-Space to move to the radio button on the web page. Then use VO-Space again to select that radio button. The likely settings you will want to choose are: 4) inverse (high cont > rast) for the Style, and you might want to make the font size and margins extra wide (option 5 in each case). Low vision and sighted users can experiment by selecting radio buttons and viewing the sample text layout on the page to select their options. The different styles (apart from "inverse") choose slightly different font types and page color backgrounds. Once you have adjusted the radio button settings to your satisfaction, follow the procedures for copying the suitably configured "Readability" link to your web bookmarklet. > > A quick explanation about why I'm pointing to the Spanish version of the page and posting these instructions now. The focus of the new Readability pages has shifted from designing readable web pages to using the pages to support authors publishing content on the web. So instead of taking you to a similar configuration web page in English, which is what was the case up to the end of January, you're now taken to a web page asking you to subscribe to the Readability service for $5/month, with most of the funds going to support authors of various web sites. While this may be a worthwhile service, I don't think this is what most visually impaired individuals will be looking for. The original lab.arc90.com web blogs mentioned exploring the use of this feature for visually impaired users, but there does not currently seem to be a way to give access to such individuals at the current pages unless they subscribe to these services. I am not, myself, a low vision user, so I can't jud > ge the effectiveness or impact of this web bookmarklet. Most of my familiarity with the low vision accessibility features (apart from what I've read and followed on accessibility lists like this one) is based on setting up computers for sighted, but older relatives without vision impairment, but who want access to larger type fonts. This solution seems to work fine for them. > > I do recommend that you try the Readability bookmarklet out though, and I'd be interesting in getting feedback from low vision users about how well it works. I only found the Spanish version web page after doing a search because the English version pages (which had the same URL without the "/es" addition) now redirect people to the page with the subscription model support: > https://www.readability.com/ > > I don't know how long the Spanish version will remain available and, to answer the obvious question, I've looked for pages in other languages like French, German, and Italian, and not found them. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Feb 21 14:11:31 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:11:31 +0000 Subject: "Readability" in Safari [was Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers] In-Reply-To: References: <227F75EF-4A38-48F3-AB72-92CB8C4E8B38@mac-access.net> <0A6412B5-009C-49BC-9B91-988B6CE26B89@mac.com> Message-ID: <311B2367-A83A-4382-9D8D-C1DCF5BA1D62@mac-access.net> Hello Simon and all, As well as the Readability bookmarklet, which we still need to try, you can also use Command_Shift+R to bring up an article in the "Safari Reader". This doesn't always work however, and I'm not sure how Safari decides what constitutes an article. FYI, the "Safari Reader" produces a clutter-free page, much like the bookmarklet and only provides you with the links that are relevant to the article you're reading. Hope this helps TC :) James On 21 Feb 2011, at 08:03, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Dear Esther, > > I am very grateful for the information and the accompanying instructions on how to use the readability reformatting service for blind and low vision users. > > I have just visited the Guardian website - one of the leading British newspapers - which is usually absolutely packed with links that one has to navigate through. I chose a particular article to read, loaded the page and then hit the readability bookmarklet. The page reformatted - although one doesn't get any feedback on when it is ready. (This is not a complaint, just information.) I kthen found the article very easily, and read through it successfully. there are just a few links left on the page after reformatting. The "load the original page" link is the first link on the page, and you can find it either by pressing the command to move to the beginning of the web page which I think is cvo+fn (on laptop)=shift left arrow, or you can find the link by calling up item chooser menu and typing the first letters of the word original. Then vo+space to select it and vo+space to activate it. > > Having a page like Gurdian's reformatted is an absolute boon. > > Thanks, Esther > > Simon > On 20 Feb 2011, at 22:57, Esther wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> This is a follow-up to my post of last week responding to Lynne's question about web pages with small fonts that are difficult to read for even non visually impaired users, especially on mobile devices like the iPhone or iPad. There is a web site called "Readability" that for the last year or so has been been experimenting with re-formatting web pages into more reader-friendly form. This specifically includes features that also make it easier for low-vision users to read these pages by using options like large fonts and high-contrast backgrounds (where the text colors are inverted, but images are left alone, unlike the "white on black" setting under Universal Access for the Mac). The re-formatting is accomplished by using a web bookmarklet that the user saves to his or her Bookmarks Bar. However, the reason this action is also useful for blind users is that this reformatting also simplifies the layout of web pages where you are reading text content by removing extraneou > s >> images for advertisements, and secondary text, making it simpler to both navigate and read. In mobile browsers, for example, this can mean that when you are reading an article on a blog page which you have reformatted using the Readability bookmarklet, and you want to navigate to a link in the article, you do not have to navigate through the multiple other links that might be on that page for archives, subjects, other resources, advertisements, etc., and you can always just read continuously. For the general reader, the Readability bookmarklet is intended to remove "visual clutter" by giving space to the main text (which can also be made larger or displayed against a high contrast background). Since the reformatted page contains a control that lets you reload the original page, it is also easy to go back to the full page content, should you choose. As I explained last week, the way that web bookmarklets work is that you activate them the same way you do regular bookmark > s >> , but instead of containing a URL in the address field that directs you to a new web page, they contain javascript code that operates on the contents of the current web page. This could perform as simple a function as changing the font size for text to 18 or 20 point (larger) type, as in the example I posted then, or it could do more extensive reformatting of contents, margins, colors, and their presentation as in the case of the Readability bookmarklet, which is customizable. Note that for web bookmarklets to work, JavaScript must be enabled for your browser, which I believe is the default setting for Safari on the Mac and on the iDevices. (You can check by bringing up Preferences with Command-Comma, and viewing the "Security" pane to see whether this option is checked in Safari; on the iDevices, the switch is displayed in the main Settings menu under "Settings > Safari".) >> >> There are some additional benefits for low-vision users on mobile devices like the iPhone. If they use zoom mode, they have to pan around the screen to read the text content. Because the Readability bookmarklet can reformat web pages to use wide margins (limiting the text, which is already displayed in enlarged fonts, to a narrower center section of the Safari web page), the amount of panning is drastically reduced. Also, the selection is either between the zoom mode or VoiceOver mode accessibility options. This allows zoom-like features of larger fonts in web pages, while simultaneously using VoiceOver, and optionally displaying the text in high contrast format. Finally, only the colors on text are inverted -- images in articles retain their original colors, unlike the case with the "white on black" setting. These features apply as much to the regular Safari web pages on your computer as to the mobile browsers. >> >> To get the Readability web bookmarklet, you can go to the following web page, and use item chooser menu to find the "Readability" link. (This is the Spanish version of the lab.arc90.com experiments page for readability -- the English version was replaced by a different page at the end of January.) The following instructions will work. You will find it simpler to navigate your Bookmarks page to paste in the web bookmarklet link information if you ensure that your Safari Bookmarks bar and toolbar are hidden before you start. Toggle these on or off with Command-Shift-b and Command-Shift-Backslash. Alternatively, you can find the options to "Hide Bookmarks Bar" and "Hide Toolbar" and any applicable shortcuts for your language in the "View" menu on your Safari menu bar (Control-F2 or VO-m to the menu bar, press "v" to go to the "View" menu, and arrow down). VoiceOver users can just copy the bookmarklet with its default settings. Sighted and low vision users can change the > ap >> pearance of the screen by selecting radio buttons for style (e.g. inverted, for high contrast; largest font size; narrowest margins) before copying the bookmarklet. >> >> To create a "Readability" bookmarklet: >> 1. From Safari on your Mac, navigate to: >> http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/es/ >> 2. Use Command-D to create a new bookmark. Type in a name like "Readability" to shorten the default page name, and set the pop up button for location to "Bookmarks Bar" (VO-Space, then use your arrow keys). >> 3. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to find the "Readability" link (press "l i n" in quick succession, then press "r" to find the link, and VO-Space to go to the link). >> 4. Use the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and VO-Down arrow to "Copy Link" and VO-Space. >> 5. Press Command-Option-B to go to the "Show All Bookmarks" page >> 6. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to go to the "Bookmarks Bar" (press "b" then VO-Space). >> 7. Route your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor (VO-Command-F5) and click to select the "Bookmarks Bar" (VO-Shift-Space). >> 8. Press VO-Command-T to move to the table of bookmarks in the Bookmarks Bar and interact (VO-Shift-Down arrow). You should be at the first entry, which is the "Readability" bookmark you just created. >> 9. Bring up the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and press "a" to select "Edit Address" and press Return. >> 10. Press the delete key then use Command-V to paste in the copied link (java script), then press return. >> >> For VoiceOver users, you're done, and you can toggle off the "Show All Bookmarks" page and return to your web page with either Command-Option-B or Command-Left Bracket. To use the "Readability" web bookmarklet, visit a web page with an article, and press Command-1 to reformat the page. For your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, sync your web bookmarks from computer to your device. Then, when you visit a web page that you want to reformat with the "Readability" bookmarklet, on the iPhone or iPod Touch double tap the "Bookmarks" button (4th of 5 at the bottom of your Safari screen) , flick right to the "Bookmarks Bar" and double tap, then flick right to the "Readability" bookmarklet and double tap to apply. On the iPad, the easiest way to access bookmarks is to go to the main Settings menu, and under "Settings > Safari" set the switch to "on" for "Always Show Bookmarks Bar". This will allow you to access the Bookmarks bar on the iPad by simply flicking right from the title bar > , >> and activate the selected bookmark by double tapping. (I touch the Google search field in the top right corner of the screen and flick right from there.) The first element on the reformatted page is a "Reload Original Page" link, which will take you back to the original layout. You'll also be informed if "Readability" thinks there may be a problem in reformatting, so you can use this link. >> >> For blind VoiceOver users who may want to configure a web bookmarklet for a low vision user, the web page, the radio buttons on the page may be selected with item chooser menu (VO-I, press "r a d" in quick succession and then VO-Down arrow through the selections. These are announced in Spanish, but there are three sets of 5 buttons, which are for Style: 1) article, 2) novel, 3) eBook, 4) inverse, and 5) Athelas (a specific type font); Font size: 1) extra small, 2) small, 3) medium, 4) large, 5) extra large; and Margin size: 1) extra narrow, 2) narrow, 3) medium, 4) wide, and 5) extra wide. The default settings are Style: 1) article; Font size: 4) large; Margin size: 4) large. To change a value, use item chooser men to find the radio buttons, VO-down arrow to the selection you want to make and use VO-Space to move to the radio button on the web page. Then use VO-Space again to select that radio button. The likely settings you will want to choose are: 4) inverse (high co > nt >> rast) for the Style, and you might want to make the font size and margins extra wide (option 5 in each case). Low vision and sighted users can experiment by selecting radio buttons and viewing the sample text layout on the page to select their options. The different styles (apart from "inverse") choose slightly different font types and page color backgrounds. Once you have adjusted the radio button settings to your satisfaction, follow the procedures for copying the suitably configured "Readability" link to your web bookmarklet. >> >> A quick explanation about why I'm pointing to the Spanish version of the page and posting these instructions now. The focus of the new Readability pages has shifted from designing readable web pages to using the pages to support authors publishing content on the web. So instead of taking you to a similar configuration web page in English, which is what was the case up to the end of January, you're now taken to a web page asking you to subscribe to the Readability service for $5/month, with most of the funds going to support authors of various web sites. While this may be a worthwhile service, I don't think this is what most visually impaired individuals will be looking for. The original lab.arc90.com web blogs mentioned exploring the use of this feature for visually impaired users, but there does not currently seem to be a way to give access to such individuals at the current pages unless they subscribe to these services. I am not, myself, a low vision user, so I can't j > ud >> ge the effectiveness or impact of this web bookmarklet. Most of my familiarity with the low vision accessibility features (apart from what I've read and followed on accessibility lists like this one) is based on setting up computers for sighted, but older relatives without vision impairment, but who want access to larger type fonts. This solution seems to work fine for them. >> >> I do recommend that you try the Readability bookmarklet out though, and I'd be interesting in getting feedback from low vision users about how well it works. I only found the Spanish version web page after doing a search because the English version pages (which had the same URL without the "/es" addition) now redirect people to the page with the subscription model support: >> https://www.readability.com/ >> >> I don't know how long the Spanish version will remain available and, to answer the obvious question, I've looked for pages in other languages like French, German, and Italian, and not found them. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Feb 21 14:13:01 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:13:01 +0000 Subject: setting up dropbox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C9863EE-E99B-497E-9AAB-75AADA8C14B3@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah, Unfortunately, as far as I know, the current version of DB on the Mac is not accessible. Do you still have the older version somewhere on a backup? TC :) James On 21 Feb 2011, at 06:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello to all how do I set up dropbox/ I choose the link but I get system UI server has no windows and i can't enter in any log in info. Please help? > > S > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 18:43:16 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:43:16 -0800 Subject: setting up dropbox In-Reply-To: <9C9863EE-E99B-497E-9AAB-75AADA8C14B3@mac-access.net> References: <9C9863EE-E99B-497E-9AAB-75AADA8C14B3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3815CB38-1062-4487-8C5F-EACC03F1B091@gmail.com> I got. What you have to do is run the app from the DMV itself. S On 21/02/2011, at 6:13, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Unfortunately, as far as I know, the current version of DB on the Mac is not accessible. Do you still have the older version somewhere on a backup? > > TC :) > James > On 21 Feb 2011, at 06:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello to all how do I set up dropbox/ I choose the link but I get system UI server has no windows and i can't enter in any log in info. Please help? >> >> S >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 21 19:35:45 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:35:45 -1000 Subject: "Readability" in Safari [was Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers] In-Reply-To: <311B2367-A83A-4382-9D8D-C1DCF5BA1D62@mac-access.net> References: <227F75EF-4A38-48F3-AB72-92CB8C4E8B38@mac-access.net> <0A6412B5-009C-49BC-9B91-988B6CE26B89@mac.com> <311B2367-A83A-4382-9D8D-C1DCF5BA1D62@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <57A3341D-AFC0-4C07-BC54-CF3BBFAA8AD3@mac.com> Hello Simon, James, and all, First, I'm very pleased that Simon found the "Readability" bookmarklet useful for reading the Guardian web pages on his Mac. As I mentioned earlier, this bookmarklet is also a great feature to have for your mobile web viewing. While many sites, including the Guardian, maintain mobile versions of their web sites that are simpler to negotiate, these are not always available. Additionally, one of the features of the iPad is its support of more complex web site browsing, and having the option to use the "Readability" bookmarklet here is particularly useful. James AUSTIN wrote: > As well as the Readability bookmarklet, which we still need to try, you can also use Command_Shift+R to bring up an article in the "Safari Reader". This doesn't always work however, and I'm not sure how Safari decides what constitutes an article. FYI, the "Safari Reader" produces a clutter-free page, much like the bookmarklet and only provides you with the links that are relevant to the article you're reading. James, this is another great tip. I'll add that the reason this Safari 5 feature is much like the bookmarklet is that Apple incorporated parts of the earlier open source Readability code version that lab.arc90.com developed for the bookmarklet into the "Safari Reader" feature. I think you'll find that you can continue to use the "Readability" bookmarklet in some instances where the Command-Shift-R shortcut for "Safari Reader" doesn't work. The other reason for posting about the bookmarklet, is that it allows use of a high contrast background for low vision users while the "Safari Reader" options cannot be customized. It can also be used with other web browsers on both desktop and mobile platforms. (This is in case you're tracking the progress of Opera, or using browsers cross-platform on a desktop. On the iPhone, some people are using the "Atomic Browser" app to get the "desktop" version of web sites on the iPhone, instead of viewing the "mobile only" version from Safari, or using this on the iPad because there is a simple control to change viewed font sizes. While the app is VoiceOver accessible, and will let you change the identity of your browser to "Safari Desktop" and others, you may still want to simplify the displayed article.) If you want to read a discussion about how the "Readability" bookmarklet decides what is article, there's a nice post on the stackoverflow.com page. I'll give a link, but since it's really long and might wrap, you may just want to Google "stackoverflow readability algorithm". Incidentally, this page is an example of where you can use the "Readability" bookmarklet, but not the "Safari Reader" shortcut to read an uncluttered version of the article. The URL address for this post is: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3652657/what-algorithm-does-readability-use-for-extracting-text-from-urls Here's a shortened link: http://bit.ly/hICd5F There's also one more configuration feature you can set up in the "Readability" bookmarklet before copying the link that I didn't describe -- you can check a box that lets all the links be converted to footnotes that are listed at the end of the page with hyperlinks. If you want to add this feature to the other web bookmarklet style options, take one more step: 1. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to navigate to the checkbox (press "c h e" in quick succession, then VO-Space). The English version of this page identified the checkbox as "Convert hyperlinks to footnotes". 2. VO-Space to check the checkbox > Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> I am very grateful for the information and the accompanying instructions on how to use the readability reformatting service for blind and low vision users. >> >> I have just visited the Guardian website - one of the leading British newspapers - which is usually absolutely packed with links that one has to navigate through. I chose a particular article to read, loaded the page and then hit the readability bookmarklet. The page reformatted - although one doesn't get any feedback on when it is ready. (This is not a complaint, just information.) I kthen found the article very easily, and read through it successfully. >> Having a page like Gurdian's reformatted is an absolute boon. Simon, two more suggestions for you to try: 1. The Guardian recently set up a mobile web site at: http://m.guardian.co.uk/ You might see whether you have any preference for using that site. They've been running a very successful and accessible iPhone app, and are now offering this for purchase under Apple's new subscription model. The charges are ?2.99 for a 6 month subscription or ?3.99 for a 12 month. I'll give the App Store link, and you might consider getting this app when you get an iPhone. 2. The Guardian (UK link); mini app (with just a few top stories) is free, buy subscriptions through in-app purchase: http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/the-guardian/id409128287?mt=8 The very nice feature of this newspaper app, and also of the New York Times app, is that you can download content when you have access to a wireless network, and then read it at any later time -- for example, on an airplane. I'll also mention that for the present, the Guardian is offering a free, but ad-supported version of its app for the U.S. App store only. This is available at: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-guardian-for-iphone/id411493119?mt=8 HTH. Cheers, Esther From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Feb 21 20:17:06 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:17:06 +0000 Subject: a bit of encouragement In-Reply-To: <8DAFC786-4366-495A-95BF-178C9A1347AF@insightbb.com> References: <8DAFC786-4366-495A-95BF-178C9A1347AF@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Hello Bill i wanted to reply to this message; but please forgive the delay. Gordon and I are a mountain of email and work behind, owing to personal and other issues which have complicated our lives since the start of February. On 18 Feb 2011, at 20:00, William Deatherage wrote: ? I read a message from a person who said they are new to the Mac list and the mac itself. I got my Mac in December or the first of january I am not sure now. But before that I hadn't used the Mac. It took a little time to learn but now that I did it has been worth the time I spent. i enjoy my I Mac and hope you will have the same experience. Your experience is in common with that of many other members of this group in recent times. We hope that those who learn from using this list and, subsequently, enjoy their Macs will share their experiences of the OS with all who are new to the world of Apple desktop and notebook. of course, iOS is enjoying probably an even larger take-up amongst the visually impaired community owing to its obvious benefits. But all the same, we hope that everybody will spread the word around; not only of their hardware and software but, as I said, also regarding this resource. Gordon and I are constantly gratified and we in turn are encouraged when we see messages like this. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Feb 21 20:26:47 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:26:47 +0000 Subject: Questions about login items and terminal. In-Reply-To: <0FA25668-815A-42C3-8BF4-6FBB34EECC27@me.com> References: <0FA25668-815A-42C3-8BF4-6FBB34EECC27@me.com> Message-ID: <985C81BA-36C0-4E4D-8278-63AEF3664EEB@mac-access.net> Hello Damian On 19 Feb 2011, at 12:30, Damian McMorrow wrote: ? I have a couple of what I hope will be simple questions. Nevertheless, I am very very glad you opted to ask them. As we say in the welcome messages, no question is too basic for this group, as long as it is relevant. ? Firstly, I have a number of smb shares on a NAS device which I've added as login items, however when I start the mac I get an error saying connection failed, check the IP address etc. When I go to mount these shares manually however, they connect just fine. I'm wondering if the problem could be that OSX is trying to mount them before the wireless network has had a chance to connect? If so, is there any way around this, or any other suggestions for making this work? We too had this issue when we were using an SMB share on a NaS device. That specific device was a WD MyBookWorld Edition drive which, as you may know, is the WD implementation of network connectivity at the lower end of the market. Actually, we gave up on the WD drives for exactly this reason. We think it's because of the fact that Samba isn't responding quickly enough to initiate rapid log-in. But just for the record, are you using a personalised log-in item which you created via the Finder? ? The other question I have is about Terminal. When I try to ping something on the local network, VO doesn't allow me to hear the response, so I have no way of knowing whether the device I'm pinging is responding or timing out. All I hear is "64 bites from IP address." are there any tricks to configuring VO and terminal so that you can see and review the output? Gordon is curious as to why you need to use "Ping" to determine whether a device is responding. I know that isn't an answer to your question; but it's kind of interesting apparently. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Feb 21 20:39:44 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:39:44 +0000 Subject: On the go again In-Reply-To: References: <024ACF17-BC87-481F-9A53-AA39B6957233@mac-access.net> <2B5D217A-168F-45E8-99D9-8742323EC941@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Gordon On 20 Feb 2011, at 11:49, Gordon Keen wrote: ? If you don't mind a suggestion from a numpty...have you tried changing the name of the old network? No, because the network doesn't actually exist any longer. That is why we want to remove it. It's still cropping up in the list and the Mac is trying to connect to it for some reason. ? As I am a user not an abuser I know this is likely to be too simple to be the answer but thought I would throw it in to the pot. Good idea; if the situation allowed. :) Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Feb 21 20:48:32 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:48:32 +0000 Subject: setting up dropbox In-Reply-To: <3815CB38-1062-4487-8C5F-EACC03F1B091@gmail.com> References: <9C9863EE-E99B-497E-9AAB-75AADA8C14B3@mac-access.net> <3815CB38-1062-4487-8C5F-EACC03F1B091@gmail.com> Message-ID: <216212D1-BDA6-4EDB-BBFF-ACA53FE2BF25@mac-access.net> Do you mean going into the "Package Contents" etc? On 21 Feb 2011, at 18:43, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I got. What you have to do is run the app from the DMV itself. > > S > > On 21/02/2011, at 6:13, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Unfortunately, as far as I know, the current version of DB on the Mac is not accessible. Do you still have the older version somewhere on a backup? >> >> TC :) >> James >> On 21 Feb 2011, at 06:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Hello to all how do I set up dropbox/ I choose the link but I get system UI server has no windows and i can't enter in any log in info. Please help? >>> >>> S >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 20:57:51 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:57:51 -0800 Subject: setting up dropbox In-Reply-To: <216212D1-BDA6-4EDB-BBFF-ACA53FE2BF25@mac-access.net> References: <9C9863EE-E99B-497E-9AAB-75AADA8C14B3@mac-access.net> <3815CB38-1062-4487-8C5F-EACC03F1B091@gmail.com> <216212D1-BDA6-4EDB-BBFF-ACA53FE2BF25@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <907192BB-183C-4C0E-91C0-F924992D460F@gmail.com> No I mean open the dmg and run the app. it should walk you through the installer. it did for me. S On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:48 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Do you mean going into the "Package Contents" etc? > On 21 Feb 2011, at 18:43, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I got. What you have to do is run the app from the DMV itself. >> >> S >> >> On 21/02/2011, at 6:13, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> Unfortunately, as far as I know, the current version of DB on the Mac is not accessible. Do you still have the older version somewhere on a backup? >>> >>> TC :) >>> James >>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 06:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Hello to all how do I set up dropbox/ I choose the link but I get system UI server has no windows and i can't enter in any log in info. Please help? >>>> >>>> S >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Feb 21 21:35:14 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:35:14 +0000 Subject: setting up dropbox In-Reply-To: <907192BB-183C-4C0E-91C0-F924992D460F@gmail.com> References: <9C9863EE-E99B-497E-9AAB-75AADA8C14B3@mac-access.net> <3815CB38-1062-4487-8C5F-EACC03F1B091@gmail.com> <216212D1-BDA6-4EDB-BBFF-ACA53FE2BF25@mac-access.net> <907192BB-183C-4C0E-91C0-F924992D460F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <19D00355-7E35-4282-BCBF-E1D098542B62@mac-access.net> Sorry, maybe I'm being dense - probably :) but how else would you do it if you've downloaded it. Most apps when you download them are package in a .dmg file On 21 Feb 2011, at 20:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No I mean open the dmg and run the app. it should walk you through the installer. it did for me. > > S > On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:48 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Do you mean going into the "Package Contents" etc? >> On 21 Feb 2011, at 18:43, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I got. What you have to do is run the app from the DMV itself. >>> >>> S >>> >>> On 21/02/2011, at 6:13, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sarah, >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, as far as I know, the current version of DB on the Mac is not accessible. Do you still have the older version somewhere on a backup? >>>> >>>> TC :) >>>> James >>>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 06:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello to all how do I set up dropbox/ I choose the link but I get system UI server has no windows and i can't enter in any log in info. Please help? >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 22:23:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:23:19 -0800 Subject: setting up dropbox In-Reply-To: <19D00355-7E35-4282-BCBF-E1D098542B62@mac-access.net> References: <9C9863EE-E99B-497E-9AAB-75AADA8C14B3@mac-access.net> <3815CB38-1062-4487-8C5F-EACC03F1B091@gmail.com> <216212D1-BDA6-4EDB-BBFF-ACA53FE2BF25@mac-access.net> <907192BB-183C-4C0E-91C0-F924992D460F@gmail.com> <19D00355-7E35-4282-BCBF-E1D098542B62@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7C239EBA-BA13-44C6-9861-E17C15B41911@gmail.com> No usually I drop the app in to the apps folder and run the app and it installs and just opens. this time I opened the dmg and ran the app. it put the app ther for me as well as let me link to the account. On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:35 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Sorry, maybe I'm being dense - probably :) but how else would you do it if you've downloaded it. Most apps when you download them are package in a .dmg file > On 21 Feb 2011, at 20:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No I mean open the dmg and run the app. it should walk you through the installer. it did for me. >> >> S >> On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:48 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Do you mean going into the "Package Contents" etc? >>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 18:43, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I got. What you have to do is run the app from the DMV itself. >>>> >>>> S >>>> >>>> On 21/02/2011, at 6:13, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Sarah, >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, as far as I know, the current version of DB on the Mac is not accessible. Do you still have the older version somewhere on a backup? >>>>> >>>>> TC :) >>>>> James >>>>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 06:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello to all how do I set up dropbox/ I choose the link but I get system UI server has no windows and i can't enter in any log in info. Please help? >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Feb 21 23:20:19 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:20:19 +0000 Subject: setting up dropbox In-Reply-To: <7C239EBA-BA13-44C6-9861-E17C15B41911@gmail.com> References: <9C9863EE-E99B-497E-9AAB-75AADA8C14B3@mac-access.net> <3815CB38-1062-4487-8C5F-EACC03F1B091@gmail.com> <216212D1-BDA6-4EDB-BBFF-ACA53FE2BF25@mac-access.net> <907192BB-183C-4C0E-91C0-F924992D460F@gmail.com> <19D00355-7E35-4282-BCBF-E1D098542B62@mac-access.net> <7C239EBA-BA13-44C6-9861-E17C15B41911@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9D6852A8-1A95-4A96-A3C7-095478DC67C4@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah, Yes, sorry, as I said a little dense this evening. :) On 21 Feb 2011, at 22:23, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No usually I drop the app in to the apps folder and run the app and it installs and just opens. this time I opened the dmg and ran the app. it put the app ther for me as well as let me link to the account. > On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:35 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Sorry, maybe I'm being dense - probably :) but how else would you do it if you've downloaded it. Most apps when you download them are package in a .dmg file >> On 21 Feb 2011, at 20:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> No I mean open the dmg and run the app. it should walk you through the installer. it did for me. >>> >>> S >>> On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:48 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Do you mean going into the "Package Contents" etc? >>>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 18:43, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> I got. What you have to do is run the app from the DMV itself. >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> >>>>> On 21/02/2011, at 6:13, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Sarah, >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately, as far as I know, the current version of DB on the Mac is not accessible. Do you still have the older version somewhere on a backup? >>>>>> >>>>>> TC :) >>>>>> James >>>>>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 06:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello to all how do I set up dropbox/ I choose the link but I get system UI server has no windows and i can't enter in any log in info. Please help? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 23:49:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:49:53 -0800 Subject: setting up dropbox In-Reply-To: <9D6852A8-1A95-4A96-A3C7-095478DC67C4@mac-access.net> References: <9C9863EE-E99B-497E-9AAB-75AADA8C14B3@mac-access.net> <3815CB38-1062-4487-8C5F-EACC03F1B091@gmail.com> <216212D1-BDA6-4EDB-BBFF-ACA53FE2BF25@mac-access.net> <907192BB-183C-4C0E-91C0-F924992D460F@gmail.com> <19D00355-7E35-4282-BCBF-E1D098542B62@mac-access.net> <7C239EBA-BA13-44C6-9861-E17C15B41911@gmail.com> <9D6852A8-1A95-4A96-A3C7-095478DC67C4@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <08A5C6B8-15A3-4C9D-BE43-16D4911CE4F7@gmail.com> don't worry abou tit. it might be my fault. I'm just so excited I finily got it to work. lol that I didn't explain it correctly. or clearly. On Feb 21, 2011, at 3:20 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Yes, sorry, as I said a little dense this evening. :) > On 21 Feb 2011, at 22:23, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No usually I drop the app in to the apps folder and run the app and it installs and just opens. this time I opened the dmg and ran the app. it put the app ther for me as well as let me link to the account. >> On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:35 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Sorry, maybe I'm being dense - probably :) but how else would you do it if you've downloaded it. Most apps when you download them are package in a .dmg file >>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 20:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> No I mean open the dmg and run the app. it should walk you through the installer. it did for me. >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:48 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do you mean going into the "Package Contents" etc? >>>>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 18:43, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I got. What you have to do is run the app from the DMV itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> >>>>>> On 21/02/2011, at 6:13, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Sarah, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately, as far as I know, the current version of DB on the Mac is not accessible. Do you still have the older version somewhere on a backup? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 06:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello to all how do I set up dropbox/ I choose the link but I get system UI server has no windows and i can't enter in any log in info. Please help? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Feb 22 00:03:35 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 00:03:35 +0000 Subject: setting up dropbox In-Reply-To: <08A5C6B8-15A3-4C9D-BE43-16D4911CE4F7@gmail.com> References: <9C9863EE-E99B-497E-9AAB-75AADA8C14B3@mac-access.net> <3815CB38-1062-4487-8C5F-EACC03F1B091@gmail.com> <216212D1-BDA6-4EDB-BBFF-ACA53FE2BF25@mac-access.net> <907192BB-183C-4C0E-91C0-F924992D460F@gmail.com> <19D00355-7E35-4282-BCBF-E1D098542B62@mac-access.net> <7C239EBA-BA13-44C6-9861-E17C15B41911@gmail.com> <9D6852A8-1A95-4A96-A3C7-095478DC67C4@mac-access.net> <08A5C6B8-15A3-4C9D-BE43-16D4911CE4F7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <33BF18D4-DFA1-413C-9804-38F6A5C273CF@mac-access.net> Good for you, glad it's working for you :) On 21 Feb 2011, at 23:49, Sarah Alawami wrote: > don't worry abou tit. it might be my fault. I'm just so excited I finily got it to work. lol that I didn't explain it correctly. or clearly. > On Feb 21, 2011, at 3:20 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Yes, sorry, as I said a little dense this evening. :) >> On 21 Feb 2011, at 22:23, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> No usually I drop the app in to the apps folder and run the app and it installs and just opens. this time I opened the dmg and ran the app. it put the app ther for me as well as let me link to the account. >>> On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:35 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry, maybe I'm being dense - probably :) but how else would you do it if you've downloaded it. Most apps when you download them are package in a .dmg file >>>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 20:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> No I mean open the dmg and run the app. it should walk you through the installer. it did for me. >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:48 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Do you mean going into the "Package Contents" etc? >>>>>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 18:43, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I got. What you have to do is run the app from the DMV itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 21/02/2011, at 6:13, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Sarah, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Unfortunately, as far as I know, the current version of DB on the Mac is not accessible. Do you still have the older version somewhere on a backup? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 06:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello to all how do I set up dropbox/ I choose the link but I get system UI server has no windows and i can't enter in any log in info. Please help? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 00:38:14 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:38:14 -0600 Subject: iPad iWork Numbers Help Message-ID: anyone have experience with iPad iWork Numbers ? navigating/selecting cells in table seems problematic. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 01:08:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:08:57 -0800 Subject: setting up dropbox In-Reply-To: <33BF18D4-DFA1-413C-9804-38F6A5C273CF@mac-access.net> References: <9C9863EE-E99B-497E-9AAB-75AADA8C14B3@mac-access.net> <3815CB38-1062-4487-8C5F-EACC03F1B091@gmail.com> <216212D1-BDA6-4EDB-BBFF-ACA53FE2BF25@mac-access.net> <907192BB-183C-4C0E-91C0-F924992D460F@gmail.com> <19D00355-7E35-4282-BCBF-E1D098542B62@mac-access.net> <7C239EBA-BA13-44C6-9861-E17C15B41911@gmail.com> <9D6852A8-1A95-4A96-A3C7-095478DC67C4@mac-access.net> <08A5C6B8-15A3-4C9D-BE43-16D4911CE4F7@gmail.com> <33BF18D4-DFA1-413C-9804-38F6A5C273CF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1444D263-6BCF-43C0-8711-55D5178B1EC7@gmail.com> Well they really need to fix the prefs tab but I'm still emailing them on that and that's another story for another day. On Feb 21, 2011, at 4:03 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Good for you, glad it's working for you :) > On 21 Feb 2011, at 23:49, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> don't worry abou tit. it might be my fault. I'm just so excited I finily got it to work. lol that I didn't explain it correctly. or clearly. >> On Feb 21, 2011, at 3:20 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> Yes, sorry, as I said a little dense this evening. :) >>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 22:23, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> No usually I drop the app in to the apps folder and run the app and it installs and just opens. this time I opened the dmg and ran the app. it put the app ther for me as well as let me link to the account. >>>> On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:35 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sorry, maybe I'm being dense - probably :) but how else would you do it if you've downloaded it. Most apps when you download them are package in a .dmg file >>>>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 20:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No I mean open the dmg and run the app. it should walk you through the installer. it did for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:48 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you mean going into the "Package Contents" etc? >>>>>>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 18:43, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I got. What you have to do is run the app from the DMV itself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 21/02/2011, at 6:13, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Sarah, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, as far as I know, the current version of DB on the Mac is not accessible. Do you still have the older version somewhere on a backup? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>> On 21 Feb 2011, at 06:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello to all how do I set up dropbox/ I choose the link but I get system UI server has no windows and i can't enter in any log in info. Please help? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eka at ekanet.net Tue Feb 22 01:25:14 2011 From: eka at ekanet.net (Emrah) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:25:14 +0100 Subject: Questions about login items and terminal. In-Reply-To: <94823F52-5B31-49B6-B634-16B295AFB2A2@softcon.com> References: <0FA25668-815A-42C3-8BF4-6FBB34EECC27@me.com> <94823F52-5B31-49B6-B634-16B295AFB2A2@softcon.com> Message-ID: <20110222012514.GA27074@willow.kavun.ch> Also, To read the terminal output, you just need to interact with the text area, move VoiceOver cursor to keyboard and start using VO standard navigation procedures. ----- Original Message ----- From: Travis Siegel Sent: Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 03:21:08PM -0600 Subject: Re: Questions about login items and terminal. > The "64 bytes from ..." > that you mention is the positive affirmation that your ping command > worked. If the device is not responding, then you will get no output at > all, and when you press control-c, the ping command will tell you that x > packets were sent, and 0 were received. This tells you that the device > you were trying to ping was not responding to ping requests, and > therefore, is likely not accessible via the network. > Of course, there's other reasons for the ping not to work, but in > general, this is the way it works. > So, your testing is working, and you're already reviewing the output via > voiceover, or you wouldn't know it returned the 64 bytes from response. > :) > Hope this helps. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Emrah From eka at ekanet.net Tue Feb 22 01:27:35 2011 From: eka at ekanet.net (Emrah) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:27:35 +0100 Subject: Use Finder menu? Message-ID: <20110222012735.GB27074@willow.kavun.ch> Hello all, I installed Sound Flower today and it comes with a little add-on. When executed, this add-on activates an icon on the menu bar next to the clock, but I cannot access it with VO. It looks like different applications make use of that space, such as Skype. Your help is always very much appreciated. Emrah -- Emrah From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 01:34:05 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:34:05 -0600 Subject: iPad iWork Numbers Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: iPad Numbers and VoiceOver, no cell selection is reported, selection is lost hwen moving away. It's so, so close. Kevin On 2/21/11, Kevin Chao wrote: > anyone have experience with iPad iWork Numbers ? navigating/selecting > cells in table seems problematic. > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 02:30:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:30:15 -0800 Subject: Use Finder menu? In-Reply-To: <20110222012735.GB27074@willow.kavun.ch> References: <20110222012735.GB27074@willow.kavun.ch> Message-ID: <9065B5D3-C5B8-43F9-AC89-BF3A95B9D271@gmail.com> Hello. go to that menu bar with a double press of vo m then rout the mouse curser to it with vo cmd f5. Now with the vo keys locked press f5 while running your fingers along the top side of the mouse pad until you get to the sound flower button. after that I'm not sure what to do next but hopefully that is a start. On Feb 21, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Emrah wrote: > Hello all, > > I installed Sound Flower today and it comes with a little add-on. When executed, this add-on activates an icon on the menu bar next to the clock, but I > cannot access it with VO. > It looks like different applications make use of that space, such as Skype. > > Your help is always very much appreciated. > Emrah > -- > Emrah > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 02:54:01 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:54:01 -0500 Subject: CUT AND COPY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <349C57D0-B06C-4D97-BD18-5A486A1C3AEA@gmail.com> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY, EVEN THOUGH THE COMMAND FOR CUT IS COMMAND X ,THIS NEVER ACTUALLY IS ALLOWED? I CAN ALWAYS DO COMMAND C TO COPY SOMETHING, BUT I AM NEVER ALLOWED TO CUT ANYTHING AND SOMETIMES, THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANT TO DO. THANKS. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 03:09:01 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:09:01 -0800 Subject: CUT AND COPY In-Reply-To: <349C57D0-B06C-4D97-BD18-5A486A1C3AEA@gmail.com> References: <349C57D0-B06C-4D97-BD18-5A486A1C3AEA@gmail.com> Message-ID: It's not available in the finder unfortunately. No fault of yours but apple made the command unavailable for some reason. S Take care. S On Feb 21, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY, EVEN THOUGH THE COMMAND FOR CUT IS COMMAND X ,THIS NEVER ACTUALLY IS ALLOWED? I CAN ALWAYS DO COMMAND C TO COPY SOMETHING, BUT I AM NEVER ALLOWED TO CUT ANYTHING AND SOMETIMES, THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANT TO DO. > > THANKS. > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Tue Feb 22 03:51:14 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:51:14 -1000 Subject: Use Finder menu? In-Reply-To: <9065B5D3-C5B8-43F9-AC89-BF3A95B9D271@gmail.com> References: <20110222012735.GB27074@willow.kavun.ch> <9065B5D3-C5B8-43F9-AC89-BF3A95B9D271@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Emrah, I'm curious about the menu bar add-on you're asking about for Soundflower. I checked my Applications folder, and under Soundflower I have an entry for something called "Soundflowerbed", which is supposed to be a menu bar icon for routing and monitoring Soundflower output. Now, it may be because I installed this under Leopard and upgraded to Snow Leopard, but I have never seen a "Soundflowerbed" icon on the menu bar -- even back in Leopard when Rogue Amoeba used a haxie work-around to make the status menu bar icons visible to VoiceOver. What I used to use instead for this kind of switching was a Rogue Amoeba program from their "Freebies" software page called "SoundSource", and I would monitor with another free app called "LineIn". These programs can both be found at: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/freebies/ Also, just a comment to add to Sarah's instructions that work for newer MacBook Pros, and other Macs (older MacBooks and Desktop models) using the Magic Trackpad under Snow Leopard. I usually find the status menu icons that VoiceOver doesn't see by slowly sliding my finger to the left direction along the top edge of the trackpad after navigating to the Status Menu bar with either VO-M twice or Control-F8, and then routing my mouse to the VoiceOver cursor with VO-Command-F5. Also, you'll want to first go into VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8) and under the "Verbosity" menu, go to the "Announcements" tab, and after the checked checkbox for "Speak text under mouse after delay" make sure that you VO-Right arrow and interact with the slider so that it is set to the shortest delay (e.g, use your left arrow key so that it is 0.0 seconds). That way pressing the F5 key when the VO keys are locked down will respond immediately to the position of the mouse cursor. I'd also change the setting of the pop up button after "Speak size and position in" from millimeters or inches to pixels using VO-Space. Finally, what I would do after locating the icon of interest on the status bar menu is unlock the VO keys (by pressing semi-colon), and then use VO-F5 twice (i.e., hold down Control+Option keys and tap the F5 key twice) to register the pixel location of the icon on the status menu bar. If you check this against the location of your cursor at the starting point on the status menu bar, you'll get a feeling of how far you have to move. (Most icons that VoiceOver can navigate to seem to be separated by 30 pixels in x). HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 21, 2011, at 16:30, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. go to that menu bar with a double press of vo m then rout the mouse curser to it with vo cmd f5. Now with the vo keys locked press f5 while running your fingers along the top side of the mouse pad until you get to the sound flower button. after that I'm not sure what to do next but hopefully that is a start. > On Feb 21, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Emrah wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I installed Sound Flower today and it comes with a little add-on. When executed, this add-on activates an icon on the menu bar next to the clock, but I >> cannot access it with VO. >> It looks like different applications make use of that space, such as Skype. >> >> Your help is always very much appreciated. >> Emrah >> -- >> Emrah >> From support at mac-access.net Tue Feb 22 08:22:32 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:22:32 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Terry Borden to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 12:31:46 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:31:46 -0500 Subject: CUT AND COPY In-Reply-To: <349C57D0-B06C-4D97-BD18-5A486A1C3AEA@gmail.com> References: <349C57D0-B06C-4D97-BD18-5A486A1C3AEA@gmail.com> Message-ID: If you're talking about cut and copy folders and/or files in the finder, this can't be done, so you have to copy the folder/file you want, put them where you want to move them, paste them in, then go back to the original location and send the original to the trash with command-delete. On Feb 21, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY, EVEN THOUGH THE COMMAND FOR CUT IS COMMAND X ,THIS NEVER ACTUALLY IS ALLOWED? I CAN ALWAYS DO COMMAND C TO COPY SOMETHING, BUT I AM NEVER ALLOWED TO CUT ANYTHING AND SOMETIMES, THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANT TO DO. > > THANKS. > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 12:52:20 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:52:20 +0100 Subject: CUT AND COPY In-Reply-To: References: <349C57D0-B06C-4D97-BD18-5A486A1C3AEA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <06E4EC90-4D9C-43CE-AB1E-9A2F0AFABD56@gmail.com> Hello, You can either do this with MoveAddict, AppleScripts or Terminal. Of course, if you decide to use Terminal should MoveAddict for some inexplainable reason not work for you, you will have to enter the entire path of both locations (source as well as destination.) Of course, the nice thing about Terminal is also flexibility, in that you have several options available for the mv command, such as -f to overwrite the confirmation prompts if the destination already exists, or -i to cause mv to write a prompt to standard error before moving files. If none of these options suit you, I guess we can hope for an optimized Finder in Mac OS X 10.7. :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From support at mac-access.net Tue Feb 22 16:50:15 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:50:15 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <16AC6CA6-82A4-4C27-BC22-3A4CC3AB899F@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Stuart Young to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From stuartyoung at samobile.net Tue Feb 22 16:50:02 2011 From: stuartyoung at samobile.net (Stuart Young) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:50:02 -0500 Subject: Thinking of getting A server for the home. Message-ID: <20110222165002.17581.94176@domU-12-31-38-07-3C-65.compute-1.internal> Hi all I'm thinking of getting a mac server for my home to host all of my shared media that i have in itunes, how well does mac OSX server work? as i have some windows computers and they will need to share the content as well. also this server will maybe used for some home automation as well does anyone no of any home automation applications that work with voice over?. -- You can contact me in one of the following ways: Skype: youngstuart70 MSN: stuartyoung at samobile.net Phone:. (Mobile) 07814796821 (Home) 01392 273445 Thank you!. Regards, Stuart Young. Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. From simon at scavendish.co.uk Tue Feb 22 17:30:13 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:30:13 +0000 Subject: Voiceover spontaneously returns to its default settings Message-ID: <5BBC224B-6F76-4E6C-A1D0-87BBBB4852B4@scavendish.co.uk> Hello, It's been happening for some time now: Voiceover, quite unexpectedly and without any help from me, returns to its default settings and I have to set custom options in Voiceover utility again. It's very boring and irritating. Has anyone noticed this behaviour, and is there anything I can do to prevent it? Thanks for any advice. Simon From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 17:39:33 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:39:33 +0100 Subject: Voiceover spontaneously returns to its default settings In-Reply-To: <5BBC224B-6F76-4E6C-A1D0-87BBBB4852B4@scavendish.co.uk> References: <5BBC224B-6F76-4E6C-A1D0-87BBBB4852B4@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: Hello Simon, This has been the behavior in VoiceOver for some time now, so I suggest you just go into the VOiceOver Utility, hit Command-Shift-E for Export, enter the file a name and save it. That way, you have your preferences for VoiceOver archived in case you need to reset them. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From simon at scavendish.co.uk Tue Feb 22 17:42:40 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:42:40 +0000 Subject: Voiceover spontaneously returns to its default settings In-Reply-To: References: <5BBC224B-6F76-4E6C-A1D0-87BBBB4852B4@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks, Nic. That's very helpful. Best wishes Simon On 22 Feb 2011, at 17:39, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Simon, > > This has been the behavior in VoiceOver for some time now, so I suggest you just go into the VOiceOver Utility, hit Command-Shift-E for Export, enter the file a name and save it. That way, you have your preferences for VoiceOver archived in case you need to reset them. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simon at scavendish.co.uk Tue Feb 22 18:46:14 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:46:14 +0000 Subject: Hotspots Message-ID: <3C4905A6-D396-4996-AD01-DAADAAD59805@scavendish.co.uk> Hello, When setting a hotspot, does a particular hotspot get set within the application, or does it work even when one is in another application? I've just been surprised by the following behaviour. I was in Safari, and therein I set a hot spot. I then went to another application - a dictionary and set a hotspot there with the same number, assuming that hotspots and their number assignments within the application where they have been set. What happened was that when I returned to Safari and hit my hotspot number, I was taken to the dictionary and the exact place where the hotspot was set. Is this how the hotspot setting is supposed to work? Simon From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Feb 22 18:50:23 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:50:23 +0000 Subject: Hotspots In-Reply-To: <3C4905A6-D396-4996-AD01-DAADAAD59805@scavendish.co.uk> References: <3C4905A6-D396-4996-AD01-DAADAAD59805@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: <45F925F0-6DB8-4969-93F3-268026B34DDE@mac-access.net> Hello Simon, Yes, this seems to be how the HotSpot feature works. It doesn't always work though, just for your information. TC :) James On 22 Feb 2011, at 18:46, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Hello, > > When setting a hotspot, does a particular hotspot get set within the application, or does it work even when one is in another application? > > I've just been surprised by the following behaviour. I was in Safari, and therein I set a hot spot. I then went to another application - a dictionary and set a hotspot there with the same number, assuming that hotspots and their number assignments within the application where they have been set. What happened was that when I returned to Safari and hit my hotspot number, I was taken to the dictionary and the exact place where the hotspot was set. Is this how the hotspot setting is supposed to work? > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Tue Feb 22 18:58:07 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:58:07 -0600 Subject: Thinking of getting A server for the home. In-Reply-To: <20110222165002.17581.94176@domU-12-31-38-07-3C-65.compute-1.internal> References: <20110222165002.17581.94176@domU-12-31-38-07-3C-65.compute-1.internal> Message-ID: <9010E838-4991-49B6-A41A-F4802FFF3353@softcon.com> As long as you're not hosting multiple email accounts, handling additional ips, serving dns, or using authenticated logins from other services, then you likely won't need the server version of osx. Considering it costs a whole lot more than the standard version, and also that there's replacements for nearly everything anyhow, and especially since all you want is basic sharing services, you can use just a simple mac mini with sharing services turned on, then you can allow all your machines, both mac and windows connect to and use your itunes library for music, movies, and other materials. You can even turn on web sharing, and how your own web pages hosted on your machine with no need for the server version of the os. You'll have no trouble doing what you want with that configuration. Mac minis are cheap (cheaper if you get an older model off ebay) and storage is easily connected to external ports on the mini if you need more space. Hope this helps. From simon at scavendish.co.uk Tue Feb 22 19:19:30 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:19:30 +0000 Subject: Hotspots In-Reply-To: <45F925F0-6DB8-4969-93F3-268026B34DDE@mac-access.net> References: <3C4905A6-D396-4996-AD01-DAADAAD59805@scavendish.co.uk> <45F925F0-6DB8-4969-93F3-268026B34DDE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thanks, James. It is or can be very helpful, it is just that I had a different concept of it but it is great when it does work. There is no end of learning, is there? Best wishes Simon On 22 Feb 2011, at 18:50, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello Simon, > > Yes, this seems to be how the HotSpot feature works. It doesn't always work though, just for your information. > > TC :) > James > On 22 Feb 2011, at 18:46, Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> When setting a hotspot, does a particular hotspot get set within the application, or does it work even when one is in another application? >> >> I've just been surprised by the following behaviour. I was in Safari, and therein I set a hot spot. I then went to another application - a dictionary and set a hotspot there with the same number, assuming that hotspots and their number assignments within the application where they have been set. What happened was that when I returned to Safari and hit my hotspot number, I was taken to the dictionary and the exact place where the hotspot was set. Is this how the hotspot setting is supposed to work? >> >> Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 19:43:23 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:43:23 -0600 Subject: iPad iWOrk KeyNote Message-ID: <74660830-9318-45FA-8183-7758FF886C9B@gmail.com> WOnders if anyone is using iWork KeyNote with iPad? if so, please let me know, am very interested. From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 19:41:10 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:41:10 -0600 Subject: iPad iWOrk Pages Message-ID: Wonders if anyone is using iWOrk Pages on iPad? If so, can you please confirm: ? Issue with VO buffers not updating when in "Info" and switching between Styles/Lists is limited to using VO keyboard navigation. When using gestures and touch to do the same VO buffers are updated correctly. ? When in "Info" / Styles/ Text Options trying to change font size crashes pages and jumps back to home screen. Pretty much a bug that prevents blind user from changing font size. ? Same place ("Info"/Styles/Text Options) "Colours" is not accessible. Sighted person can choose font colour. BLind user can't. ? UI: Lots of duplicate buttons. ? Inconsistency with reporting button status. Would be nice if all buttons were reported same way. As is its fragmented. Some buttons reported as "dimmed" when active. Some reported as "dimmed" when inactive. Needs lots of guess work on the part of the user. ? ?VO buffers aren't updated when selecting between "Styles/Lists radio buttons in "Info". Have to toggle ?VO on and off to display contents of "Info" properly. ? When formatting text ?VO has problems reporting selected lines at the end or start of document. i.e. start formatting document. Try to select the vey first or very last line. Vo just says :selected" instead of announcing what's selected. confusing. Fixed by inserting blank lines in the beginning/end of document. Crazy workaround. unnecessary. Selection should be the least of my concerns when formatting. Don't want to negotiate with the UI. ? ?VO only reports fon size and font type. Does not report headings, titles, bulleted lists etc. This level of access is also missing in ?Pages on ?Mac. ? Similarly ?VO does not report text alinement for me. have to go to "Info" and go through hoops to find out if its a centred heading or justified paragraph. shouldn't be. From eka at ekanet.net Tue Feb 22 21:18:28 2011 From: eka at ekanet.net (Emrah) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:18:28 +0100 Subject: Use Finder menu? In-Reply-To: <9065B5D3-C5B8-43F9-AC89-BF3A95B9D271@gmail.com> References: <20110222012735.GB27074@willow.kavun.ch> <9065B5D3-C5B8-43F9-AC89-BF3A95B9D271@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20110222211828.GA32007@willow.kavun.ch> Dear Sarah, Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately, although I tried to follow everything you listed, I cannot find the Sound Flower button. I keep either hitting the menu bar, spotlight menu or the first item on the Finder menu, which is my PPP Modem for my 3G card. Any other alternatives? Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Alawami Sent: Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 06:30:15PM -0800 Subject: Re: Use Finder menu? > Hello. go to that menu bar with a double press of vo m then rout the mouse curser to it with vo cmd f5. Now with the vo keys locked press f5 while running your fingers along the top side of the mouse pad until you get to the sound flower button. after that I'm not sure what to do next but hopefully that is a start. > On Feb 21, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Emrah wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I installed Sound Flower today and it comes with a little add-on. When executed, this add-on activates an icon on the menu bar next to the clock, but I > > cannot access it with VO. > > It looks like different applications make use of that space, such as Skype. > > > > Your help is always very much appreciated. > > Emrah > > -- > > Emrah > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Emrah From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 02:19:14 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:19:14 -0800 Subject: how can I get my ringtones back on my phone Message-ID: <58888198-D493-4D0C-B46E-46AF1000C8E9@gmail.com> Hello. I have several ringtones that I made myself on my phone. Somehow I forgot to back up my ringtones folder so now it's gone. they are still on the phone but how can I get them back from the phone to my computer? Take care all and hope you all are having a nice day. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 09:01:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:01:39 -0800 Subject: An interesting article about mac batteries Message-ID: <1175DF35-45F8-4F5D-A20F-85D7A694DA64@gmail.com> I found this a good midnight read http://tiny.ly/jCkO / From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 12:46:04 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:46:04 -0500 Subject: how can I get my ringtones back on my phone In-Reply-To: <58888198-D493-4D0C-B46E-46AF1000C8E9@gmail.com> References: <58888198-D493-4D0C-B46E-46AF1000C8E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <81A2C602-C341-40BF-81A9-04FF1E6458CE@gmail.com> With your phone hooked to the computer, find it in the sources table. Tab to ring tones and select it. Check sink ring tones checkbox, and you'll be asked if you want to put ring tones back on your computer that are on your phone but not on the computer. On Feb 22, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. I have several ringtones that I made myself on my phone. Somehow I forgot to back up my ringtones folder so now it's gone. they are still on the phone but how can I get them back from the phone to my computer? > > Take care all and hope you all are having a nice day. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Wed Feb 23 15:35:24 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:35:24 +0000 Subject: Using drop box with voiceover Message-ID: It's time for my numpty of the day question I'm afraid. I have drop box set up and I have successfully uploaded files and used the facility to send a url to a friend to download them. All worked fine. However that was a couple of weeks ago now and I fear I must be in first stages of *old timers* disorder, do you think I can remember the keystrokes to highlight the file name in my public folder in order to bring up the menu to select that option? You're double dog right I can't! ( shakes head in bewilderment ) Can some kind person refresh my poor memory please. . BTW i have another lulu coming up shortly - sit tight for that, you will likely split your sides laughing. Cheers G From glorious Devon, England. From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Wed Feb 23 15:50:18 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:50:18 +0000 Subject: My doc has caught my old timers disorder Message-ID: <5F1D8B50-5745-4731-8E9E-B010B4ED5883@googlemail.com> Hi Yes I'm going for supreme numpty today. I appear to have triggered something very nasty while experimenting with keystrokes to highlight a file in my drop box public folder on my home folder. Now when I go to doc and select mail up pops finder, also when I select address book and the same in safari. I had to use the applications folder to launch mail to send these messages. Oh dear, my head is aching - any suggestions? (keep them clean please) Cheers G From glorious Devon, England. From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Feb 23 16:33:13 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:33:13 +0000 Subject: Using drop box with voiceover In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8534C8B9-0237-4593-A619-ED7B76E43000@mac-access.net> Hi G, Try VO+Shift+M On 23 Feb 2011, at 15:35, Gordon Keen wrote: > > > It's time for my numpty of the day question I'm afraid. > > I have drop box set up and I have successfully uploaded files and used the facility to send a url to a friend to download them. All worked fine. > > However that was a couple of weeks ago now and I fear I must be in first stages of *old timers* disorder, do you think I can remember the keystrokes to highlight the file name in my public folder in order to bring up the menu to select that option? > > You're double dog right I can't! ( shakes head in bewilderment ) > > Can some kind person refresh my poor memory please. > > . > > BTW i have another lulu coming up shortly - sit tight for that, you will likely split your sides laughing. > > Cheers > > G > > From glorious Devon, England. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Feb 23 16:38:14 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:38:14 +0000 Subject: My doc has caught my old timers disorder In-Reply-To: <5F1D8B50-5745-4731-8E9E-B010B4ED5883@googlemail.com> References: <5F1D8B50-5745-4731-8E9E-B010B4ED5883@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi again G, This is odd. At the moment, I don't have time to experiment and figure out what is causing this, but have you tried removing the com.apple.dock.plist and com.apple.dock.db files from your Preferences folder? You can navigate to them through Finder windows, or by pressing Cmd+Shift+G and then typing: ~/Library/Preferences HTH TC :) J On 23 Feb 2011, at 15:50, Gordon Keen wrote: > Hi > > Yes I'm going for supreme numpty today. > > I appear to have triggered something very nasty while experimenting with keystrokes to highlight a file in my drop box public folder on my home folder. > > Now when I go to doc and select mail up pops finder, also when I select address book and the same in safari. > > I had to use the applications folder to launch mail to send these messages. > > Oh dear, my head is aching - any suggestions? > (keep them clean please) > > Cheers > > G > > > From glorious Devon, England. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Wed Feb 23 16:49:25 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:49:25 +0000 Subject: Using drop box with voiceover In-Reply-To: <8534C8B9-0237-4593-A619-ED7B76E43000@mac-access.net> References: <8534C8B9-0237-4593-A619-ED7B76E43000@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Yes that should bring up the list of options amongst which is drop box with a sub list that contains the *copy the url for this file* or something like that. However that list of options only appears if the file in the drop box public folder has been selected and highlighted, I think you need to do this using a mouse click. I've racked my brain box for the exact keystroke I used before to do this and tried all the obvious ones but I can not select the file in the public folder to bring up the correct list of options using shift plus vo plus m as you suggest. Sigh, it's a terrible thing to wake up and find you have old timers all of a sudden like this. Cheers G From glorious Devon, England. On 23 Feb 2011, at 16:33, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi G, Try VO+Shift+M > On 23 Feb 2011, at 15:35, Gordon Keen wrote: From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Feb 23 17:15:45 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:15:45 +0100 Subject: Using drop box with voiceover In-Reply-To: References: <8534C8B9-0237-4593-A619-ED7B76E43000@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9A1408CB-DD19-46A1-9DEF-F5979E584502@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Gordon, I'm sure you've thought of this, but have you turned cursor tracking off? That screws everything up. The keystroke is VO-Shift-F3. Cheers, Anne From w9fyi at mac-access.net Wed Feb 23 18:59:02 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:59:02 -0700 Subject: making an alias? Message-ID: <1FAB5ED6-5870-4B7F-A0A0-472C27A9C7E7@mac-access.net> Hi all, I've just installed xcode on my mac, and it has installed itself in to a directory called developer which is *not* under the applications menu. Is there a way that i can make an alias to put in to the applications menu to get to this directory without having to go under computer to find the directory? From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Feb 23 19:56:28 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:56:28 +0000 Subject: Introducing a little more to our blog Message-ID: Hello everybody Gosh; it's been a busy day! Gordon has been working hard for our mutual benefit here, while I've been at work. Gordon has added more to our blog, and we think the fact that he's now discovered how to use categories will help make things more searchable. you can find the blog here: if you're interested. You might also be interested to know, if you're a blogger yourself, that Gordon has struck up a good working relationship with a blog editor developer and we hope to be offering an amazing promotion on list shortly for their products. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 20:19:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:19:47 -0800 Subject: how can I get my ringtones back on my phone In-Reply-To: <81A2C602-C341-40BF-81A9-04FF1E6458CE@gmail.com> References: <58888198-D493-4D0C-B46E-46AF1000C8E9@gmail.com> <81A2C602-C341-40BF-81A9-04FF1E6458CE@gmail.com> Message-ID: Acutlaly that didn't work as how they came back wiht an invalad location so like a stupid person I removed them fromthe library and now I have 0 ringtones both on my phone and my computer. Growl! so I'm in the process of rebuilding them. Not what I want to spend time on but ah well. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:46 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > With your phone hooked to the computer, find it in the sources table. Tab to ring tones and select it. Check sink ring tones checkbox, and you'll be asked if you want to put ring tones back on your computer that are on your phone but not on the computer. > > > On Feb 22, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello. I have several ringtones that I made myself on my phone. Somehow I forgot to back up my ringtones folder so now it's gone. they are still on the phone but how can I get them back from the phone to my computer? >> >> Take care all and hope you all are having a nice day. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 20:19:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:19:47 -0800 Subject: how can I get my ringtones back on my phone In-Reply-To: <81A2C602-C341-40BF-81A9-04FF1E6458CE@gmail.com> References: <58888198-D493-4D0C-B46E-46AF1000C8E9@gmail.com> <81A2C602-C341-40BF-81A9-04FF1E6458CE@gmail.com> Message-ID: Acutlaly that didn't work as how they came back wiht an invalad location so like a stupid person I removed them fromthe library and now I have 0 ringtones both on my phone and my computer. Growl! so I'm in the process of rebuilding them. Not what I want to spend time on but ah well. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:46 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > With your phone hooked to the computer, find it in the sources table. Tab to ring tones and select it. Check sink ring tones checkbox, and you'll be asked if you want to put ring tones back on your computer that are on your phone but not on the computer. > > > On Feb 22, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello. I have several ringtones that I made myself on my phone. Somehow I forgot to back up my ringtones folder so now it's gone. they are still on the phone but how can I get them back from the phone to my computer? >> >> Take care all and hope you all are having a nice day. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 20:53:38 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:53:38 -0500 Subject: how can I get my ringtones back on my phone In-Reply-To: References: <58888198-D493-4D0C-B46E-46AF1000C8E9@gmail.com> <81A2C602-C341-40BF-81A9-04FF1E6458CE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <490D3E7A-09DC-47A4-9E97-E7FAA094CB1C@gmail.com> Do you have the ring tones on your phone? On Feb 23, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Acutlaly that didn't work as how they came back wiht an invalad location so like a stupid person I removed them fromthe library and now I have 0 ringtones both on my phone and my computer. Growl! so I'm in the process of rebuilding them. Not what I want to spend time on but ah well. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:46 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > >> With your phone hooked to the computer, find it in the sources table. Tab to ring tones and select it. Check sink ring tones checkbox, and you'll be asked if you want to put ring tones back on your computer that are on your phone but not on the computer. >> >> >> On Feb 22, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Hello. I have several ringtones that I made myself on my phone. Somehow I forgot to back up my ringtones folder so now it's gone. they are still on the phone but how can I get them back from the phone to my computer? >>> >>> Take care all and hope you all are having a nice day. >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Feb 23 21:13:58 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:13:58 +0000 Subject: Introducing a little more to our blog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Lynne, A nice edition to Mac-Access. TC :) James On 23 Feb 2011, at 19:56, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Gosh; it's been a busy day! Gordon has been working hard for our mutual benefit here, while I've been at work. Gordon has added more to our blog, and we think the fact that he's now discovered how to use categories will help make things more searchable. > > you can find the blog here: if you're interested. > > You might also be interested to know, if you're a blogger yourself, that Gordon has struck up a good working relationship with a blog editor developer and we hope to be offering an amazing promotion on list shortly for their products. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 21:17:43 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:17:43 -0800 Subject: how can I get my ringtones back on my phone In-Reply-To: <490D3E7A-09DC-47A4-9E97-E7FAA094CB1C@gmail.com> References: <58888198-D493-4D0C-B46E-46AF1000C8E9@gmail.com> <81A2C602-C341-40BF-81A9-04FF1E6458CE@gmail.com> <490D3E7A-09DC-47A4-9E97-E7FAA094CB1C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Not any more. they disappeared when I was getting invalid location on itunes. I deleted them from the library thinking there were still on my phone and poof! they disappeared. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Do you have the ring tones on your phone? > > On Feb 23, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually that didn't work as how they came back wiht an invalad location so like a stupid person I removed them fromthe library and now I have 0 ringtones both on my phone and my computer. Growl! so I'm in the process of rebuilding them. Not what I want to spend time on but ah well. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:46 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >> >>> With your phone hooked to the computer, find it in the sources table. Tab to ring tones and select it. Check sink ring tones checkbox, and you'll be asked if you want to put ring tones back on your computer that are on your phone but not on the computer. >>> >>> >>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Hello. I have several ringtones that I made myself on my phone. Somehow I forgot to back up my ringtones folder so now it's gone. they are still on the phone but how can I get them back from the phone to my computer? >>>> >>>> Take care all and hope you all are having a nice day. >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Feb 23 21:21:54 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:21:54 +0000 Subject: twitter clients. Message-ID: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> Hi all, I eventually joined the 21st century and signed up to twitter. I'm not convinced how long I'll stay there, but I decided to see what the hype was all about. Ah I reckon I'll hang around till after our elections on Friday at least... Anyway, I'm using Syrinx at the minute, and while it's not bad, there are some things about it I don't like. For example, I can see my friends, but I can't see who their friends are. In other words, if I have a friend and I want to see whom he is folllowing, I've not figured out how to do this. So, is syrinx the best client to use or would people recommend something else? Thanks much D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 21:48:37 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:48:37 +0100 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello, I quite like YoruFukurou. it supports multiple accounts, and supports keyboard shortcuts not only bound to modifier keys, which means you can navigate to a tweet and hit "l" to open links within the tweet. It is also very important to note that you must navigate with up and down arrows only, not VoiceOver up and down. You can, however, interact with the tweets table and navigate to the column containing the tweet as there are three columns spanning the table. I know that one of them contains a profile image if present of the user. It's a very nice client, and I could talk ages about the client. It has a lot of features, and works really well with VoiceOver. It also has various sounds for the various events for Twitter, such as mentions, sent and direct messages. It also supports automatic shortening of URLs and also provides a command to shorten a URL if you have not set automatic shortening. You may also add custom URL shorteners if you desire. It also has a "silent" mode. This briefly shuts off all notifications such as Growl and sound alerts until you uncheck it. It is a menu item located in the "Yorufukurou" menu, which means that you can go into System Preferences under Keyboard>Keyboard Shortcuts tab, add an application shortcut for YoruFukurou, enter the name of the menu item "Silent Mode" with matching upper and lower case letters, and hold down the command you would like to assign to it. Of course, this should preferably be a command which does not conflict with current commands in YoruFukurou, such as COmmand-Shift-S. This e-mail is kind of rushed, for which I apologize. If there is anything I have missed that you think is important, please reply and provide input. More is better! :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Feb 23 21:56:23 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:56:23 -0600 Subject: making an alias? In-Reply-To: <1FAB5ED6-5870-4B7F-A0A0-472C27A9C7E7@mac-access.net> References: <1FAB5ED6-5870-4B7F-A0A0-472C27A9C7E7@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <57BA9800-CB8F-47AA-BDDA-583192A4D6C0@softcon.com> On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Justin Mann wrote: > Hi all, > I've just installed xcode on my mac, and it has installed itself in > to a directory called developer which is *not* under the > applications menu. Is there a way that i can make an alias to put > in to the applications menu to get to this directory without having > to go under computer to find the directory? You can, but my recomendation is *not* to do this, because you really want to keep your developer stuff separate from your user-level things. but if it bothers you that much that you need to go to computer everytime (I do this by default, so this doesn't bother me in the least) you can put a sim-link in the applications folder to the developer one, which will still give you access to the developer things, without you having to physically put the programs in your applications folder. I don't know how to make an alias (which is basically a finder equivalent of a sim-link) so this procedure is done using the terminal. in terminal, type cd /applications then type ln -s /developer developer and that will place a link in your applications folder you can use to get to your developer folder. Never used finder aliases on purpose, and always remove them when they get created by accident, because they irritate me, so sorry I can't help with that directly, but this should do the job for you. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Feb 23 22:01:58 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:01:58 +0000 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <43DC9D30-238B-4ADE-8D06-CE21636CAAF4@computing.dcu.ie> Thanks Nick, that's as complete an answer as I need. The app is downloading as I respond here :-) Cheers D?nal On 23 Feb 2011, at 21:48, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello, > > I quite like YoruFukurou. it supports multiple accounts, and supports keyboard shortcuts not only bound to modifier keys, which means you can navigate to a tweet and hit "l" to open links within the tweet. It is also very important to note that you must navigate with up and down arrows only, not VoiceOver up and down. You can, however, interact with the tweets table and navigate to the column containing the tweet as there are three columns spanning the table. I know that one of them contains a profile image if present of the user. > > It's a very nice client, and I could talk ages about the client. It has a lot of features, and works really well with VoiceOver. It also has various sounds for the various events for Twitter, such as mentions, sent and direct messages. It also supports automatic shortening of URLs and also provides a command to shorten a URL if you have not set automatic shortening. You may also add custom URL shorteners if you desire. > > It also has a "silent" mode. This briefly shuts off all notifications such as Growl and sound alerts until you uncheck it. It is a menu item located in the "Yorufukurou" menu, which means that you can go into System Preferences under Keyboard>Keyboard Shortcuts tab, add an application shortcut for YoruFukurou, enter the name of the menu item "Silent Mode" with matching upper and lower case letters, and hold down the command you would like to assign to it. Of course, this should preferably be a command which does not conflict with current commands in YoruFukurou, such as COmmand-Shift-S. > > This e-mail is kind of rushed, for which I apologize. If there is anything I have missed that you think is important, please reply and provide input. More is better! :) > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Wed Feb 23 21:50:12 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:50:12 -0500 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> I would highly recommend YoruFukurou. It had some VO bugs, but communication with the developers has fixed them. Also, it supports multiple accounts, and you can easily switch between them. YoruFukurou is the most accessible client out of the most advanced Mac twitter clients that are out there. I've been searching all over and have found nothing else that beats it. Hth, Rose On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:21 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi all, > > I eventually joined the 21st century and signed up to twitter. I'm not convinced how long I'll stay there, but I decided to see what the hype was all about. Ah I reckon I'll hang around till after our elections on Friday at least... > > Anyway, I'm using Syrinx at the minute, and while it's not bad, there are some things about it I don't like. For example, I can see my friends, but I can't see who their friends are. In other words, if I have a friend and I want to see whom he is folllowing, I've not figured out how to do this. > > So, is syrinx the best client to use or would people recommend something else? > > Thanks much > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Feb 23 22:19:23 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:19:23 +0000 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> Message-ID: <866B7838-8387-472D-A53F-2F7A5B308A0C@computing.dcu.ie> Thanks a lot. I'm already using it. Far nicer than Syrinx certainly. I still can't find the feature I'm looking for, but I've only had it for 10 minutes and I'm enjoying playing! *smile* Thanks a lot. On 23 Feb 2011, at 21:50, Rose Morales wrote: > I would highly recommend YoruFukurou. It had some VO bugs, but communication with the developers has fixed them. Also, it supports multiple accounts, and you can easily switch between them. YoruFukurou is the most accessible client out of the most advanced Mac twitter clients that are out there. I've been searching all over and have found nothing else that beats it. > Hth, > Rose > On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:21 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I eventually joined the 21st century and signed up to twitter. I'm not convinced how long I'll stay there, but I decided to see what the hype was all about. Ah I reckon I'll hang around till after our elections on Friday at least... >> >> Anyway, I'm using Syrinx at the minute, and while it's not bad, there are some things about it I don't like. For example, I can see my friends, but I can't see who their friends are. In other words, if I have a friend and I want to see whom he is folllowing, I've not figured out how to do this. >> >> So, is syrinx the best client to use or would people recommend something else? >> >> Thanks much >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Feb 23 22:19:52 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:19:52 +0000 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> Message-ID: <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> But how does the direct messaging work? It always seems to fail, or at least says that it cannot send the message? On 23 Feb 2011, at 21:50, Rose Morales wrote: > I would highly recommend YoruFukurou. It had some VO bugs, but communication with the developers has fixed them. Also, it supports multiple accounts, and you can easily switch between them. YoruFukurou is the most accessible client out of the most advanced Mac twitter clients that are out there. I've been searching all over and have found nothing else that beats it. > Hth, > Rose > On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:21 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I eventually joined the 21st century and signed up to twitter. I'm not convinced how long I'll stay there, but I decided to see what the hype was all about. Ah I reckon I'll hang around till after our elections on Friday at least... >> >> Anyway, I'm using Syrinx at the minute, and while it's not bad, there are some things about it I don't like. For example, I can see my friends, but I can't see who their friends are. In other words, if I have a friend and I want to see whom he is folllowing, I've not figured out how to do this. >> >> So, is syrinx the best client to use or would people recommend something else? >> >> Thanks much >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 22:24:25 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:24:25 -0800 Subject: making an alias? In-Reply-To: <57BA9800-CB8F-47AA-BDDA-583192A4D6C0@softcon.com> References: <1FAB5ED6-5870-4B7F-A0A0-472C27A9C7E7@mac-access.net> <57BA9800-CB8F-47AA-BDDA-583192A4D6C0@softcon.com> Message-ID: Hello. just hit cmd l to create an alius then move it anyware you want. Hope that helps. I do this all the time on purpose lol! Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > > On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Justin Mann wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I've just installed xcode on my mac, and it has installed itself in to a directory called developer which is *not* under the applications menu. Is there a way that i can make an alias to put in to the applications menu to get to this directory without having to go under computer to find the directory? > > You can, but my recomendation is *not* to do this, because you really want to keep your developer stuff separate from your user-level things. > but if it bothers you that much that you need to go to computer everytime (I do this by default, so this doesn't bother me in the least) you can put a sim-link in the applications folder to the developer one, which will still give you access to the developer things, without you having to physically put the programs in your applications folder. > I don't know how to make an alias (which is basically a finder equivalent of a sim-link) so this procedure is done using the terminal. > in terminal, type > cd /applications > then type ln -s /developer developer > and that will place a link in your applications folder you can use to get to your developer folder. > Never used finder aliases on purpose, and always remove them when they get created by accident, because they irritate me, so sorry I can't help with that directly, but this should do the job for you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Wed Feb 23 22:23:11 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:23:11 -0500 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0668CD00-9FC2-4319-929D-7A0535291EDC@chicksdigmacs.net> The person you wish to DM must be following you in order for you to message them. So to DM back and forth, both parties need to be following each other. If both of you are indeed following each other, it could just be a problem with the twitter API. If the message you sent shows up in your DM's tab, then it said, regardless of what the API reported back to you. If you keep getting those fail messages and see nothing in your DM's tab to indicate that the message was sent, just wait a minute or two and try again. Hth, Rose On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:19 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > But how does the direct messaging work? It always seems to fail, or at least says that it cannot send the message? > On 23 Feb 2011, at 21:50, Rose Morales wrote: > >> I would highly recommend YoruFukurou. It had some VO bugs, but communication with the developers has fixed them. Also, it supports multiple accounts, and you can easily switch between them. YoruFukurou is the most accessible client out of the most advanced Mac twitter clients that are out there. I've been searching all over and have found nothing else that beats it. >> Hth, >> Rose >> On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:21 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I eventually joined the 21st century and signed up to twitter. I'm not convinced how long I'll stay there, but I decided to see what the hype was all about. Ah I reckon I'll hang around till after our elections on Friday at least... >>> >>> Anyway, I'm using Syrinx at the minute, and while it's not bad, there are some things about it I don't like. For example, I can see my friends, but I can't see who their friends are. In other words, if I have a friend and I want to see whom he is folllowing, I've not figured out how to do this. >>> >>> So, is syrinx the best client to use or would people recommend something else? >>> >>> Thanks much >>> >>> D?nal >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 23 22:26:59 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:26:59 -1000 Subject: TextExpander for Mac half price as today's MacUpdate Promo Message-ID: Hello, SmileOnMyMac's TextExpander app is on sale at half price ($17.95) for the next 6 hours and forty-some minutes as today's MacUpdate Promo from: http://www.mupromo.com/ This app lets you define customized snippets for frequently used phrases (or to define a signature, for example) that expand to the full phrase when you type the letters of your snippet in any application on your Mac. This supports fairly complicated situations, even in their standard snippet definition libraries that you can use. For example, if you use a snippet for today's date (in the form of "ddate" -- that's "date" with an extra "d" at the beginning), you can insert today's date in a customized format. Also, if you use the snippet definitions for HTML and CSS, you can type an element, and then have the correctly spelled and justified HTML code for the link or image or comment inserted around the element you've just typed. TextExpander is also specially useful for easily typing accented words or names in other languages. The Mac version of TextExpander has more features than the iPhone app version, but you can also sync your custom definitions between Mac and iPhone apps. This is really handy to use for text that you are uploading through Dropbox on both Mac and iPhone, for support in the notetaking apps. If you haven't purchased from MacUpdate's web site before, you will need to do a one-time negotiation of a CAPTCHA to set up an account. From then on, you can access your receipts and license information from your account. Promotions are changed daily, and products often (but not always) remain available for the next week at a lesser discount. P.S. I understand that they've gone back to the more accessible Preferences pane structure of the previous version. Can anyone comment on that? I might update my version of TextExpander if this is the case. HTH. Cheers, Esther From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 22:27:14 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:27:14 +0100 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <069A9642-7B45-4A64-BBCC-0975717D354A@gmail.com> Hello james, People primarily have to follow you first before you DM them. That is the only reason that this feature does not work for you, at least in regards to YoruFukurou. All you have to do is either type d in the edit field where you compose a new tweet, or simply go to the user and hit "D" in any of the tabs they are listed to prefix the tweet with the proper parameters. You can also go to the followers list with Command-L and do it from there with the menu button located next to their names in the various columns when you select a tab in the new window. Hope this helps. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Feb 23 22:31:35 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:31:35 +0000 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <069A9642-7B45-4A64-BBCC-0975717D354A@gmail.com> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> <069A9642-7B45-4A64-BBCC-0975717D354A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <74FC06D1-A87D-4807-AB83-9717195A1865@computing.dcu.ie> Nick (and others) Is there a command which enables me to see who someone I'm following is following? (sorry it's an awkward one to phrase)... I know it is possible because there are clients on other operating systems which enable me to do this. Cheers. On 23 Feb 2011, at 22:27, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello james, > > People primarily have to follow you first before you DM them. That is the only reason that this feature does not work for you, at least in regards to YoruFukurou. > > All you have to do is either type d in the edit field where you compose a new tweet, or simply go to the user and hit "D" in any of the tabs they are listed to prefix the tweet with the proper parameters. You can also go to the followers list with Command-L and do it from there with the menu button located next to their names in the various columns when you select a tab in the new window. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 22:34:45 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:34:45 +0100 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <74FC06D1-A87D-4807-AB83-9717195A1865@computing.dcu.ie> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> <069A9642-7B45-4A64-BBCC-0975717D354A@gmail.com> <74FC06D1-A87D-4807-AB83-9717195A1865@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello, As far as I know, there is not. I will suggest this unless I am wrong. I don't care about a feature like this myself, but you won't be the onle one who does. :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Feb 23 22:35:36 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:35:36 +0000 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <0668CD00-9FC2-4319-929D-7A0535291EDC@chicksdigmacs.net> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> <0668CD00-9FC2-4319-929D-7A0535291EDC@chicksdigmacs.net> Message-ID: <3402519D-62F2-461E-A082-58F6DFDCB2B0@mac-access.net> Thanks Rose, Ill try that, but it hasn't worked as yet. On 23 Feb 2011, at 22:23, Rose Morales wrote: > The person you wish to DM must be following you in order for you to message them. So to DM back and forth, both parties need to be following each other. > If both of you are indeed following each other, it could just be a problem with the twitter API. If the message you sent shows up in your DM's tab, then it said, regardless of what the API reported back to you. If you keep getting those fail messages and see nothing in your DM's tab to indicate that the message was sent, just wait a minute or two and try again. > Hth, > Rose > On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:19 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> But how does the direct messaging work? It always seems to fail, or at least says that it cannot send the message? >> On 23 Feb 2011, at 21:50, Rose Morales wrote: >> >>> I would highly recommend YoruFukurou. It had some VO bugs, but communication with the developers has fixed them. Also, it supports multiple accounts, and you can easily switch between them. YoruFukurou is the most accessible client out of the most advanced Mac twitter clients that are out there. I've been searching all over and have found nothing else that beats it. >>> Hth, >>> Rose >>> On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:21 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I eventually joined the 21st century and signed up to twitter. I'm not convinced how long I'll stay there, but I decided to see what the hype was all about. Ah I reckon I'll hang around till after our elections on Friday at least... >>>> >>>> Anyway, I'm using Syrinx at the minute, and while it's not bad, there are some things about it I don't like. For example, I can see my friends, but I can't see who their friends are. In other words, if I have a friend and I want to see whom he is folllowing, I've not figured out how to do this. >>>> >>>> So, is syrinx the best client to use or would people recommend something else? >>>> >>>> Thanks much >>>> >>>> D?nal >>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Feb 23 22:36:07 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:36:07 +0000 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <069A9642-7B45-4A64-BBCC-0975717D354A@gmail.com> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> <069A9642-7B45-4A64-BBCC-0975717D354A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Nic On 23 Feb 2011, at 22:27, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello james, > > People primarily have to follow you first before you DM them. That is the only reason that this feature does not work for you, at least in regards to YoruFukurou. > > All you have to do is either type d in the edit field where you compose a new tweet, or simply go to the user and hit "D" in any of the tabs they are listed to prefix the tweet with the proper parameters. You can also go to the followers list with Command-L and do it from there with the menu button located next to their names in the various columns when you select a tab in the new window. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Feb 23 22:38:16 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:38:16 +0000 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> <069A9642-7B45-4A64-BBCC-0975717D354A@gmail.com> <74FC06D1-A87D-4807-AB83-9717195A1865@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: I've found it very very handy. A number of my mates share the same religion as I do... Soccer. They follow journalists, and this feature made it really really easy to find useful people to follow. Also, I use this feature to follow colleagues in my field of research. Again, I can look at whom they are following, and expand my network. Cheers, D?nal On 23 Feb 2011, at 22:34, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello, > > As far as I know, there is not. I will suggest this unless I am wrong. I don't care about a feature like this myself, but you won't be the onle one who does. :) > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Wed Feb 23 22:41:59 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:41:59 -0500 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> <069A9642-7B45-4A64-BBCC-0975717D354A@gmail.com> <74FC06D1-A87D-4807-AB83-9717195A1865@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <3408E58A-0C9C-4937-9FBE-84204E463CA2@chicksdigmacs.net> You might enjoy single user view and conversation view then. They are command-2 and command-3 respectively. Also, if you haven't checked out the drawer yet, I highly recommend doing so. Between those three features, you should be able to figure out who follows who. Hth, Rose On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:38 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > I've found it very very handy. A number of my mates share the same religion as I do... Soccer. They follow journalists, and this feature made it really really easy to find useful people to follow. Also, I use this feature to follow colleagues in my field of research. Again, I can look at whom they are following, and expand my network. > > Cheers, > > D?nal > On 23 Feb 2011, at 22:34, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> As far as I know, there is not. I will suggest this unless I am wrong. I don't care about a feature like this myself, but you won't be the onle one who does. :) >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Feb 23 22:50:01 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:50:01 +0000 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <3408E58A-0C9C-4937-9FBE-84204E463CA2@chicksdigmacs.net> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> <069A9642-7B45-4A64-BBCC-0975717D354A@gmail.com> <74FC06D1-A87D-4807-AB83-9717195A1865@computing.dcu.ie> <3408E58A-0C9C-4937-9FBE-84204E463CA2@chicksdigmacs.net> Message-ID: <183D82E3-A841-4B42-A3EB-10A3B7797748@mac-access.net> Thanks Rose, I'll try that too. TC :) James On 23 Feb 2011, at 22:41, Rose Morales wrote: > You might enjoy single user view and conversation view then. They are command-2 and command-3 respectively. Also, if you haven't checked out the drawer yet, I highly recommend doing so. Between those three features, you should be able to figure out who follows who. > Hth, > Rose > On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:38 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> I've found it very very handy. A number of my mates share the same religion as I do... Soccer. They follow journalists, and this feature made it really really easy to find useful people to follow. Also, I use this feature to follow colleagues in my field of research. Again, I can look at whom they are following, and expand my network. >> >> Cheers, >> >> D?nal >> On 23 Feb 2011, at 22:34, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> As far as I know, there is not. I will suggest this unless I am wrong. I don't care about a feature like this myself, but you won't be the onle one who does. :) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Feb 23 22:52:54 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:52:54 +0000 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <3408E58A-0C9C-4937-9FBE-84204E463CA2@chicksdigmacs.net> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> <069A9642-7B45-4A64-BBCC-0975717D354A@gmail.com> <74FC06D1-A87D-4807-AB83-9717195A1865@computing.dcu.ie> <3408E58A-0C9C-4937-9FBE-84204E463CA2@chicksdigmacs.net> Message-ID: Interesting indeed Rose, I'd missed the drawer. It seems to give the user profile in there. Also, you're right looking at the conversation view does give some information from which one can glean who's following the original tweeter. However, and I suspect NIck is right, the feature I'm talking about isn't available. I use a client on my work machine which is windows based. This client enables me to hit a button when a person I'm following is highlighted, and then I can see exactly who they're following. I've become used to having it, so it's created bad lazy habits! *smile* thanks a lot for this information, D?nal On 23 Feb 2011, at 22:41, Rose Morales wrote: > You might enjoy single user view and conversation view then. They are command-2 and command-3 respectively. Also, if you haven't checked out the drawer yet, I highly recommend doing so. Between those three features, you should be able to figure out who follows who. > Hth, > Rose > On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:38 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> I've found it very very handy. A number of my mates share the same religion as I do... Soccer. They follow journalists, and this feature made it really really easy to find useful people to follow. Also, I use this feature to follow colleagues in my field of research. Again, I can look at whom they are following, and expand my network. >> >> Cheers, >> >> D?nal >> On 23 Feb 2011, at 22:34, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> As far as I know, there is not. I will suggest this unless I am wrong. I don't care about a feature like this myself, but you won't be the onle one who does. :) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 23 23:19:44 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:19:44 -1000 Subject: Using drop box with voiceover In-Reply-To: <9A1408CB-DD19-46A1-9DEF-F5979E584502@anarchie.org.uk> References: <8534C8B9-0237-4593-A619-ED7B76E43000@mac-access.net> <9A1408CB-DD19-46A1-9DEF-F5979E584502@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <53566E3B-ED19-4ADF-B957-649B0A0E11C6@mac.com> Hello Gordon, To ask an even more basic question than Anne's suggestion of checking that you have cursor tracking on, did you interact with VO-Shift-Down arrow before you tried to bring up the context menu (VO-Shift-M) to find the Dropbox URL for your selected file in your Public Dropbox folder? (I tried sending this out much earlier, but for some reason my mailer balked at relaying this, so apologies if this is a duplicate.) Cheers, Esther From billd at insightbb.com Thu Feb 24 02:47:51 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:47:51 -0500 Subject: setting up i tunes Message-ID: Hello, Have never registered i Tunes. I was wondering if anyone has had any problems doing this? and do you have any good suggestions on how to do it? Bill Deatherage I am wanting to regretter it so I can download things and put them on my I Phone? or is it just as easy to download things directly to the I phone. Bill Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Thu Feb 24 03:07:00 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:07:00 -0500 Subject: radio stations on the I phone Message-ID: <7251366D-A2D1-4E42-966B-967967490D45@insightbb.com> Hello to all, what is the best way to find radio stations on the I Phone? on the Mac, I just go into safari and either type in the name or will go to google and do a search on the radio station. so far, I haven't had any luck with trying to do a google search on the I phone. Could some one give me some suggestions on what I might be able to do? also, when I get down to the last thing at the bottom of the page how do I get it to scroll down? Thanks for the information in advance. Bill Deatherage From w9fyi at mac-access.net Thu Feb 24 03:12:46 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:12:46 -0700 Subject: radio stations on the I phone In-Reply-To: <7251366D-A2D1-4E42-966B-967967490D45@insightbb.com> References: <7251366D-A2D1-4E42-966B-967967490D45@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Hi there, You're best bet is to download an app called ootunes, or tunin radio. Those two particular apps have probably about the best selection of radio stations that you would find anywhere, and they are quite accessible. HTH, Justin On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:07 PM, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello to all, > what is the best way to find radio stations on the I Phone? on the Mac, I just go into safari and either type in the name or will go to google and do a search on the radio station. so far, I haven't had any luck with trying to do a google search on the I phone. Could some one give me some suggestions on what I might be able to do? also, when I get down to the last thing at the bottom of the page how do I get it to scroll down? > Thanks for the information in advance. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Thu Feb 24 05:07:48 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:07:48 -0500 Subject: web pages on the I Phone Message-ID: <36DFB9B2-24C6-4676-81D4-E2B253F31CE7@insightbb.com> Hello, It finally dawned on me That i was explaining one of the issues wrong. When i am on a web sight and it says one of 3 or 4 pages. I am having problems getting past the first one. i have tried scrolling down the page with three fingers and it will announce the links or what is on the screen but it will not go to the second page. any suggestions will be helpful. again, thanks for the help with my I Phone From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Thu Feb 24 09:03:56 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:03:56 +0000 Subject: Using drop box with voiceover In-Reply-To: <9A1408CB-DD19-46A1-9DEF-F5979E584502@anarchie.org.uk> References: <8534C8B9-0237-4593-A619-ED7B76E43000@mac-access.net> <9A1408CB-DD19-46A1-9DEF-F5979E584502@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <58F79B27-41A0-4FFC-BF49-4CF3FD0D4783@googlemail.com> Hi Anne Thanks, that is exactly what had happened and it's sorted my doc problem too. You are a star! Cheers G From glorious Devon, England. On 23 Feb 2011, at 17:15, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Gordon, > > I'm sure you've thought of this, but have you turned cursor tracking off? That screws everything up. The keystroke is VO-Shift-F3. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Feb 24 09:11:15 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:11:15 -0000 Subject: YoruFukurou query. Message-ID: <000301cbd402$ccf56b10$66e04130$@dcu.ie> Hi, This is a daft query but sure anyway. How does one "follow" someone in YoruFukurou? I can't seem to find an option to do so. Cheers, D?nal From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Thu Feb 24 09:16:17 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:16:17 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou query. In-Reply-To: <000301cbd402$ccf56b10$66e04130$@dcu.ie> References: <000301cbd402$ccf56b10$66e04130$@dcu.ie> Message-ID: type follow space then the name i can't remember if you have to put an at before the name first so try it both ways. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 09:31:42 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:31:42 +0100 Subject: YoruFukurou query. In-Reply-To: References: <000301cbd402$ccf56b10$66e04130$@dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hi, You have to type follow then hit enter in the edit field after the table containing tweets. This is just a standard Twitter command, so you can do this from any application that either interfaces with Twitter or even from Twitter on the web. For example, follow chojiro would make you follow me. Worth noting is that if someone has their tweets protected, they will not be listed as one of their followers until the person on the other end approves your request. I know this has sometimes caused people to think they did it wrong, when in fact that was not the case. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Feb 24 09:39:31 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:39:31 -0000 Subject: YoruFukurou query. In-Reply-To: References: <000301cbd402$ccf56b10$66e04130$@dcu.ie> Message-ID: <000601cbd406$c03ce660$40b6b320$@dcu.ie> AHH cheers nick and Ian, my mistake! I was looking for a button to do it. *smile* I only joined twitter yesterday for the purposes of keeping up to speed with all of the political drama that's about to unfold here (our soon-to-be-former government is about to be wiped out) so I'm not up to speed on the various commands one needs etc. Will take a look now, Google is my friend! Cheers D?nal -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: 24 February 2011 09:32 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: YoruFukurou query. Hi, You have to type follow then hit enter in the edit field after the table containing tweets. This is just a standard Twitter command, so you can do this from any application that either interfaces with Twitter or even from Twitter on the web. For example, follow chojiro would make you follow me. Worth noting is that if someone has their tweets protected, they will not be listed as one of their followers until the person on the other end approves your request. I know this has sometimes caused people to think they did it wrong, when in fact that was not the case. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 09:41:48 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:41:48 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou query. In-Reply-To: References: <000301cbd402$ccf56b10$66e04130$@dcu.ie> Message-ID: <686AB262-5BBE-4DF4-8B46-7312F777B494@gmail.com> no you don't just follow, space, name, enter On 24 Feb 2011, at 09:16, Ian McNamara wrote: > type follow space then the name i can't remember if you have to put an at before the name first so try it both ways. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 10:59:20 2011 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria from Australia) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:59:20 +1100 Subject: "Readability" in Safari [was Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers] In-Reply-To: <0A6412B5-009C-49BC-9B91-988B6CE26B89@mac.com> References: <227F75EF-4A38-48F3-AB72-92CB8C4E8B38@mac-access.net> <0A6412B5-009C-49BC-9B91-988B6CE26B89@mac.com> Message-ID: <4D663A08.1040609@gmail.com> HI does anyone know how to set this up in windows? thanks Maria and Karly from Australia Friendship flourishes at the fountain of forgiveness. William A. Ward twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book & email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com please check out www.powerradio104.com PROUD MEMBER and support volunteer for TAFN www.tafn.org.uk my groups BlindSightedChat-subscribe at yahoogroups.com http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindsightedchat shelter-from-the-storm-subscribe at yahoogroups.com On 21/02/2011 9:57 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi All, > > This is a follow-up to my post of last week responding to Lynne's question about web pages with small fonts that are difficult to read for even non visually impaired users, especially on mobile devices like the iPhone or iPad. There is a web site called "Readability" that for the last year or so has been been experimenting with re-formatting web pages into more reader-friendly form. This specifically includes features that also make it easier for low-vision users to read these pages by using options like large fonts and high-contrast backgrounds (where the text colors are inverted, but images are left alone, unlike the "white on black" setting under Universal Access for the Mac). The re-formatting is accomplished by using a web bookmarklet that the user saves to his or her Bookmarks Bar. However, the reason this action is also useful for blind users is that this reformatting also simplifies the layout of web pages where you are reading text content by removing extraneo us > images for advertisements, and secondary text, making it simpler to both navigate and read. In mobile browsers, for example, this can mean that when you are reading an article on a blog page which you have reformatted using the Readability bookmarklet, and you want to navigate to a link in the article, you do not have to navigate through the multiple other links that might be on that page for archives, subjects, other resources, advertisements, etc., and you can always just read continuously. For the general reader, the Readability bookmarklet is intended to remove "visual clutter" by giving space to the main text (which can also be made larger or displayed against a high contrast background). Since the reformatted page contains a control that lets you reload the original page, it is also easy to go back to the full page content, should you choose. As I explained last week, the way that web bookmarklets work is that you activate them the same way you do regular bookm arks > , but instead of containing a URL in the address field that directs you to a new web page, they contain javascript code that operates on the contents of the current web page. This could perform as simple a function as changing the font size for text to 18 or 20 point (larger) type, as in the example I posted then, or it could do more extensive reformatting of contents, margins, colors, and their presentation as in the case of the Readability bookmarklet, which is customizable. Note that for web bookmarklets to work, JavaScript must be enabled for your browser, which I believe is the default setting for Safari on the Mac and on the iDevices. (You can check by bringing up Preferences with Command-Comma, and viewing the "Security" pane to see whether this option is checked in Safari; on the iDevices, the switch is displayed in the main Settings menu under "Settings> Safari".) > > There are some additional benefits for low-vision users on mobile devices like the iPhone. If they use zoom mode, they have to pan around the screen to read the text content. Because the Readability bookmarklet can reformat web pages to use wide margins (limiting the text, which is already displayed in enlarged fonts, to a narrower center section of the Safari web page), the amount of panning is drastically reduced. Also, the selection is either between the zoom mode or VoiceOver mode accessibility options. This allows zoom-like features of larger fonts in web pages, while simultaneously using VoiceOver, and optionally displaying the text in high contrast format. Finally, only the colors on text are inverted -- images in articles retain their original colors, unlike the case with the "white on black" setting. These features apply as much to the regular Safari web pages on your computer as to the mobile browsers. > > To get the Readability web bookmarklet, you can go to the following web page, and use item chooser menu to find the "Readability" link. (This is the Spanish version of the lab.arc90.com experiments page for readability -- the English version was replaced by a different page at the end of January.) The following instructions will work. You will find it simpler to navigate your Bookmarks page to paste in the web bookmarklet link information if you ensure that your Safari Bookmarks bar and toolbar are hidden before you start. Toggle these on or off with Command-Shift-b and Command-Shift-Backslash. Alternatively, you can find the options to "Hide Bookmarks Bar" and "Hide Toolbar" and any applicable shortcuts for your language in the "View" menu on your Safari menu bar (Control-F2 or VO-m to the menu bar, press "v" to go to the "View" menu, and arrow down). VoiceOver users can just copy the bookmarklet with its default settings. Sighted and low vision users can change the ap > pearance of the screen by selecting radio buttons for style (e.g. inverted, for high contrast; largest font size; narrowest margins) before copying the bookmarklet. > > To create a "Readability" bookmarklet: > 1. From Safari on your Mac, navigate to: > http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/es/ > 2. Use Command-D to create a new bookmark. Type in a name like "Readability" to shorten the default page name, and set the pop up button for location to "Bookmarks Bar" (VO-Space, then use your arrow keys). > 3. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to find the "Readability" link (press "l i n" in quick succession, then press "r" to find the link, and VO-Space to go to the link). > 4. Use the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and VO-Down arrow to "Copy Link" and VO-Space. > 5. Press Command-Option-B to go to the "Show All Bookmarks" page > 6. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to go to the "Bookmarks Bar" (press "b" then VO-Space). > 7. Route your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor (VO-Command-F5) and click to select the "Bookmarks Bar" (VO-Shift-Space). > 8. Press VO-Command-T to move to the table of bookmarks in the Bookmarks Bar and interact (VO-Shift-Down arrow). You should be at the first entry, which is the "Readability" bookmark you just created. > 9. Bring up the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and press "a" to select "Edit Address" and press Return. > 10. Press the delete key then use Command-V to paste in the copied link (java script), then press return. > > For VoiceOver users, you're done, and you can toggle off the "Show All Bookmarks" page and return to your web page with either Command-Option-B or Command-Left Bracket. To use the "Readability" web bookmarklet, visit a web page with an article, and press Command-1 to reformat the page. For your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, sync your web bookmarks from computer to your device. Then, when you visit a web page that you want to reformat with the "Readability" bookmarklet, on the iPhone or iPod Touch double tap the "Bookmarks" button (4th of 5 at the bottom of your Safari screen) , flick right to the "Bookmarks Bar" and double tap, then flick right to the "Readability" bookmarklet and double tap to apply. On the iPad, the easiest way to access bookmarks is to go to the main Settings menu, and under "Settings> Safari" set the switch to "on" for "Always Show Bookmarks Bar". This will allow you to access the Bookmarks bar on the iPad by simply flicking right from the title ba r, > and activate the selected bookmark by double tapping. (I touch the Google search field in the top right corner of the screen and flick right from there.) The first element on the reformatted page is a "Reload Original Page" link, which will take you back to the original layout. You'll also be informed if "Readability" thinks there may be a problem in reformatting, so you can use this link. > > For blind VoiceOver users who may want to configure a web bookmarklet for a low vision user, the web page, the radio buttons on the page may be selected with item chooser menu (VO-I, press "r a d" in quick succession and then VO-Down arrow through the selections. These are announced in Spanish, but there are three sets of 5 buttons, which are for Style: 1) article, 2) novel, 3) eBook, 4) inverse, and 5) Athelas (a specific type font); Font size: 1) extra small, 2) small, 3) medium, 4) large, 5) extra large; and Margin size: 1) extra narrow, 2) narrow, 3) medium, 4) wide, and 5) extra wide. The default settings are Style: 1) article; Font size: 4) large; Margin size: 4) large. To change a value, use item chooser men to find the radio buttons, VO-down arrow to the selection you want to make and use VO-Space to move to the radio button on the web page. Then use VO-Space again to select that radio button. The likely settings you will want to choose are: 4) inverse (high c ont > rast) for the Style, and you might want to make the font size and margins extra wide (option 5 in each case). Low vision and sighted users can experiment by selecting radio buttons and viewing the sample text layout on the page to select their options. The different styles (apart from "inverse") choose slightly different font types and page color backgrounds. Once you have adjusted the radio button settings to your satisfaction, follow the procedures for copying the suitably configured "Readability" link to your web bookmarklet. > > A quick explanation about why I'm pointing to the Spanish version of the page and posting these instructions now. The focus of the new Readability pages has shifted from designing readable web pages to using the pages to support authors publishing content on the web. So instead of taking you to a similar configuration web page in English, which is what was the case up to the end of January, you're now taken to a web page asking you to subscribe to the Readability service for $5/month, with most of the funds going to support authors of various web sites. While this may be a worthwhile service, I don't think this is what most visually impaired individuals will be looking for. The original lab.arc90.com web blogs mentioned exploring the use of this feature for visually impaired users, but there does not currently seem to be a way to give access to such individuals at the current pages unless they subscribe to these services. I am not, myself, a low vision user, so I can't jud > ge the effectiveness or impact of this web bookmarklet. Most of my familiarity with the low vision accessibility features (apart from what I've read and followed on accessibility lists like this one) is based on setting up computers for sighted, but older relatives without vision impairment, but who want access to larger type fonts. This solution seems to work fine for them. > > I do recommend that you try the Readability bookmarklet out though, and I'd be interesting in getting feedback from low vision users about how well it works. I only found the Spanish version web page after doing a search because the English version pages (which had the same URL without the "/es" addition) now redirect people to the page with the subscription model support: > https://www.readability.com/ > > I don't know how long the Spanish version will remain available and, to answer the obvious question, I've looked for pages in other languages like French, German, and Italian, and not found them. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Feb 24 12:14:56 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:14:56 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou and tweet dates In-Reply-To: References: <000301cbd402$ccf56b10$66e04130$@dcu.ie> Message-ID: <75A0964A-76B3-44DE-AC69-9C47B3F18D01@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I have tried YoruFukurou and generally like it. I have also used tweetlist on the iPhone and one thing I particularly like about tweetlist is that it displays the date of a received tweet. I tried and failed to get YoruFukurou to similarly speak the date of a received tweet. Is this possible and if so how does one achieve it? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 13:06:50 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:06:50 +0000 Subject: genius and podcasts? Message-ID: Hi all, , Much like the app store and standard genius, can one have itunes search my itunes library of podcasts, and pick out similar episodes? Thanks, WIll From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Thu Feb 24 13:21:12 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:21:12 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou query. In-Reply-To: References: <000301cbd402$ccf56b10$66e04130$@dcu.ie> Message-ID: HI Ian and all. No you don't need to put an @ sign before the name. Just type Follow then a space, then the twitter username, e.g lewiscrack. Hope this helps. Regards. Lewis. On 24 Feb 2011, at 09:16, Ian McNamara wrote: > type follow space then the name i can't remember if you have to put an at before the name first so try it both ways. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 13:40:48 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:40:48 -0500 Subject: Twitter software and other apps In-Reply-To: References: <000301cbd402$ccf56b10$66e04130$@dcu.ie> Message-ID: <001301cbd428$72977520$57c65f60$@com> Where can I get a good app for Twitter? I looked at the app store, but I didn't see a very comprehensive list. This leads me to another question. Does all software for the Mac come from the store? Also, is it ever the case that apps work on the Mac and the iPhone both and how does one know this? Thanks for your patience. Kristeen -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Crack Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:21 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: YoruFukurou query. HI Ian and all. No you don't need to put an @ sign before the name. Just type Follow then a space, then the twitter username, e.g lewiscrack. Hope this helps. Regards. Lewis. On 24 Feb 2011, at 09:16, Ian McNamara wrote: > type follow space then the name i can't remember if you have to put an at before the name first so try it both ways. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 14:00:22 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:00:22 +0000 Subject: Twitter software and other apps In-Reply-To: <001301cbd428$72977520$57c65f60$@com> References: <000301cbd402$ccf56b10$66e04130$@dcu.ie> <001301cbd428$72977520$57c65f60$@com> Message-ID: tweetlist is good I think, I use Echofon On 24 Feb 2011, at 13:40, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > Where can I get a good app for Twitter? I looked at the app store, but I > didn't see a very comprehensive list. > > This leads me to another question. Does all software for the Mac come from > the store? Also, is it ever the case that apps work on the Mac and the > iPhone both and how does one know this? > > Thanks for your patience. > > Kristeen > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Crack > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:21 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: YoruFukurou query. > > HI Ian and all. > > No you don't need to put an @ sign before the name. > Just type Follow then a space, then the twitter username, e.g lewiscrack. > Hope this helps. > Regards. > Lewis. > On 24 Feb 2011, at 09:16, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> type follow space then the name i can't remember if you have to put an at > before the name first so try it both ways. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 14:00:49 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:00:49 -0500 Subject: web pages on the I Phone In-Reply-To: <36DFB9B2-24C6-4676-81D4-E2B253F31CE7@insightbb.com> References: <36DFB9B2-24C6-4676-81D4-E2B253F31CE7@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <736AA396-7C75-408B-9931-B6B64F0F269F@gmail.com> Do a 3-finger flick right. On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:07 AM, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > It finally dawned on me That i was explaining one of the issues wrong. When i am on a web sight and it says one of 3 or 4 pages. I am having problems getting past the first one. i have tried scrolling down the page with three fingers and it will announce the links or what is on the screen but it will not go to the second page. > any suggestions will be helpful. again, thanks for the help with my I Phone > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 14:51:44 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:51:44 +0100 Subject: Twitter software and other apps In-Reply-To: References: <000301cbd402$ccf56b10$66e04130$@dcu.ie> <001301cbd428$72977520$57c65f60$@com> Message-ID: Hello Kristeen, To answer your questions, Tweetlist is a very comprehensive application for the iOS. While it does not support push, you can get Boxcar for free and use one of two free slots for services to apply push to other services as well, such as e-mail and Twitter. If you want an aditional service slot, you can pay $1 to obtain an extra slot. Yes, I know that was a shameless plug for another great application for the iOS platform, but in combination with Tweetlist it is a very consistent setup. In addition, Tweetlist also provides features such as displaying your own retweets, other people's retweets, mentions, home timeline and managing lists. Tweetlist can also display full names of the tweeter, rather than having to remember the various Twitter usernames. This means that, instead of showing my tweets as sent by Chojiro, my full name would be displayed. I will answer your second question in a separate e-mail, as it is not relevant to this thread. That way, it is easily archived and much easier to search if it ends up becoming a thread all its own. Of course, I will quote your question so that it does not become too confusing. Of course, that is in hopes that no one else replied to this yet and answered that other question. Regards, NIc GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 15:07:25 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:07:25 +0100 Subject: Compatibility question regarding the Mac APp Store Message-ID: <17084796-9A43-482B-A069-F4F1FDACA855@gmail.com> Hi! This is my attempt to follow up on another question posed by one list member, and of course it deserves attention like any other post. :) On Feb 24, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: Does all software for the Mac come from the store? Also, is it ever the case that apps work on the Mac and the iPhone both and how does one know this? Thanks for your patience. Kristeen The Mac App Store has something called receipts. These receipts are checked when you run the application for the first time after downloading. This applies to both free and priced applications. This receipt checks if you have a legal version and, if you do not, you will not be able to run the application. This means that when you reinstall your Mac, you can redownload your applications for free even if you paid the first time. However, if you prefer not to redownload them, you can simply back up all your applications. When you rerun an App Store application a dialog will pop up asking for your Apple ID and password. When you have entered this information, the receipt will promptly permit you to use the application as you see fit. The application file itself contains a receipt. This is where all this information is stored. However, do not try to delete this. This will not permit the application to run, even if you think it should. Should you wish to get the application elsewhere, this is also allowed. The Mac App Store is not the exclusive way to get applications installed on your Mac. Of course, depending on the developer the application may be way more expensive when it is promoted on the developer's website as opposed to in the App Store. Also, I personally find it easier not having to check many different applications for updates if they do not run background checks. Having everything connected together within the App Store just makes things easier, even when it comes to updating or discovering new applications. iOS applications do not work on Mac OS X or the other way around. However, iOS applications may work in the simulator that comes with the iOS Software Developer Kit. They use different languages, and this is why developers often try to make a counterpart to their Mac OS X or iOS applications. This provides synchronization and seamless integration most of the time if the developer provides such features. I hope this helped you. :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Thu Feb 24 16:06:12 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:06:12 +0000 Subject: YoruFukurou and tweet dates In-Reply-To: <75A0964A-76B3-44DE-AC69-9C47B3F18D01@hopewell.org.uk> References: <000301cbd402$ccf56b10$66e04130$@dcu.ie> <75A0964A-76B3-44DE-AC69-9C47B3F18D01@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: hi as far as i know i don't think you can make it do that but i could be wrong. Ian McNamara From khwicca at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 16:24:59 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:24:59 -0500 Subject: Compatibility question regarding the Mac APp Store In-Reply-To: <17084796-9A43-482B-A069-F4F1FDACA855@gmail.com> References: <17084796-9A43-482B-A069-F4F1FDACA855@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you very much for your answers to both of my questions. The information is most appreciated. Kristeen On Feb 24, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > This is my attempt to follow up on another question posed by one list member, and of course it deserves attention like any other post. :) > > On Feb 24, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > > Does all software for the Mac come from > the store? Also, is it ever the case that apps work on the Mac and the > iPhone both and how does one know this? > > Thanks for your patience. > > Kristeen > > The Mac App Store has something called receipts. These receipts are checked when you run the application for the first time after downloading. This applies to both free and priced applications. This receipt checks if you have a legal version and, if you do not, you will not be able to run the application. This means that when you reinstall your Mac, you can redownload your applications for free even if you paid the first time. However, if you prefer not to redownload them, you can simply back up all your applications. When you rerun an App Store application a dialog will pop up asking for your Apple ID and password. When you have entered this information, the receipt will promptly permit you to use the application as you see fit. > > The application file itself contains a receipt. This is where all this information is stored. However, do not try to delete this. This will not permit the application to run, even if you think it should. > > Should you wish to get the application elsewhere, this is also allowed. The Mac App Store is not the exclusive way to get applications installed on your Mac. Of course, depending on the developer the application may be way more expensive when it is promoted on the developer's website as opposed to in the App Store. Also, I personally find it easier not having to check many different applications for updates if they do not run background checks. Having everything connected together within the App Store just makes things easier, even when it comes to updating or discovering new applications. > > iOS applications do not work on Mac OS X or the other way around. However, iOS applications may work in the simulator that comes with the iOS Software Developer Kit. They use different languages, and this is why developers often try to make a counterpart to their Mac OS X or iOS applications. This provides synchronization and seamless integration most of the time if the developer provides such features. > > I hope this helped you. :) > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 19:21:07 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:21:07 -0500 Subject: Problems with the App store Message-ID: <403241CB-C1A4-4077-B710-9B0EA99D16C4@gmail.com> I seem not to be able to find apps that it seems should be in the store with my Mac. I also can't seem to buy one when I do find it. I end up in an endless loop entering my user ID information and then clicking on the billing info link and going right back to entering my info again. I feel there must be some keystrokes or something that I don't know. Can someone give me pointers? Kristeen From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 20:04:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:04:12 -0800 Subject: Apple's $0.99 FaceTime Charge Due to Accounting Requirements Message-ID: <60CA3339-ADF5-42BE-8677-5B23C791BAF3@gmail.com> Why is apple charging 0.99 for an app that can be found for free on the iphone? read more. http://bit.ly/fWB366 From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 20:04:45 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:04:45 +0100 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers Message-ID: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> hi! As much as you might think this is a news article plug, it is not. :) I actually had a question regarding my developer program for Mac OS X. It would be extremely helpful if someone here is a member of the $99 program and still has an active account. I know that the program provides access to pre-released software. I also know that Mac OS X 10.7 is out there now ready to download as a preview. What I wonder is this, though. Does the developer benefits include the official release, or are you required to actually buy the DVD for that? I would assume not, and if I am right, I will go ahead tonight when my connection becomes stable again to get it and burn it on my personal installation disk. I hope someone can answer this question. Additionally, I will not be providing any kind of hints as to VoiceOver or any excluded features from Apple's notes about Lion on the official page for the operating system. I will only provide the minimal information if anyone asks, but only what already is available from Apple. I will not violate the non-disclosure agreement regardless if this information is available elsewhere. Similarly, I will not provide any download mirrors for the installer or upload any pre-installed Mac OS X 10.7, Lion partitions. I will only install Mac OS X 10.7, Lion, on a separate partition to avoid any conflicts with Mac OS X 10.6.6, Snow Leopard, in order to focus primarily upon the development aspect in 10.7 and compatibility. In other words, don't write me privately to ask for a disk image. This is not a slam of any of you listers, but simply a request. I kindly ask you to abide by it, even though I am sure that you will even without asking. Thank you, and hopefully someone here can provide me an answer. :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 20:04:45 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:04:45 -0800 Subject: Apple's $0.99 FaceTime Charge Due to Accounting Requirements Message-ID: <04281BC4-D079-4688-953D-D4B01FF57BEE@gmail.com> Why is apple charging 0.99 for an app that can be found for free on the iphone? read more. http://bit.ly/fWB366 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 20:24:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:24:12 -0800 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> Message-ID: lol. there are already links from apple detailing the release today. I think it was today of that preview thing. As for your other question I'll let someone else answer it as I am not going to get a dev account for osx maybe for ios though. Be blessed and have fun testing. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > hi! > > As much as you might think this is a news article plug, it is not. :) > > I actually had a question regarding my developer program for Mac OS X. It would be extremely helpful if someone here is a member of the $99 program and still has an active account. > > I know that the program provides access to pre-released software. I also know that Mac OS X 10.7 is out there now ready to download as a preview. What I wonder is this, though. Does the developer benefits include the official release, or are you required to actually buy the DVD for that? I would assume not, and if I am right, I will go ahead tonight when my connection becomes stable again to get it and burn it on my personal installation disk. > > I hope someone can answer this question. > > Additionally, I will not be providing any kind of hints as to VoiceOver or any excluded features from Apple's notes about Lion on the official page for the operating system. I will only provide the minimal information if anyone asks, but only what already is available from Apple. I will not violate the non-disclosure agreement regardless if this information is available elsewhere. > > Similarly, I will not provide any download mirrors for the installer or upload any pre-installed Mac OS X 10.7, Lion partitions. I will only install Mac OS X 10.7, Lion, on a separate partition to avoid any conflicts with Mac OS X 10.6.6, Snow Leopard, in order to focus primarily upon the development aspect in 10.7 and compatibility. > > In other words, don't write me privately to ask for a disk image. > > This is not a slam of any of you listers, but simply a request. I kindly ask you to abide by it, even though I am sure that you will even without asking. > > Thank you, and hopefully someone here can provide me an answer. :) > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 20:35:14 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:35:14 +0100 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah, As I already said, I won't share anything beyond what Apple has already said. :) yes, it was today, which is why I'm curious to know if it really matters. Logically, I'd assume that the official retail version is released in the developer's center for Mac OS X as well, but you never know. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > lol. there are already links from apple detailing the release today. I think it was today of that preview thing. As for your other question I'll let someone else answer it as I am not going to get a dev account for osx maybe for ios though. > > Be blessed and have fun testing. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> hi! >> >> As much as you might think this is a news article plug, it is not. :) >> >> I actually had a question regarding my developer program for Mac OS X. It would be extremely helpful if someone here is a member of the $99 program and still has an active account. >> >> I know that the program provides access to pre-released software. I also know that Mac OS X 10.7 is out there now ready to download as a preview. What I wonder is this, though. Does the developer benefits include the official release, or are you required to actually buy the DVD for that? I would assume not, and if I am right, I will go ahead tonight when my connection becomes stable again to get it and burn it on my personal installation disk. >> >> I hope someone can answer this question. >> >> Additionally, I will not be providing any kind of hints as to VoiceOver or any excluded features from Apple's notes about Lion on the official page for the operating system. I will only provide the minimal information if anyone asks, but only what already is available from Apple. I will not violate the non-disclosure agreement regardless if this information is available elsewhere. >> >> Similarly, I will not provide any download mirrors for the installer or upload any pre-installed Mac OS X 10.7, Lion partitions. I will only install Mac OS X 10.7, Lion, on a separate partition to avoid any conflicts with Mac OS X 10.6.6, Snow Leopard, in order to focus primarily upon the development aspect in 10.7 and compatibility. >> >> In other words, don't write me privately to ask for a disk image. >> >> This is not a slam of any of you listers, but simply a request. I kindly ask you to abide by it, even though I am sure that you will even without asking. >> >> Thank you, and hopefully someone here can provide me an answer. :) >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jekis at fastmail.us Thu Feb 24 20:40:23 2011 From: jekis at fastmail.us (Justin Ekis) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:40:23 -0800 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Nic, Though I do not have a developer account, I have read several news articles today that may answer some of your questions. This is all stuff that has been posted in public sites by reputable news sources. Apparently, you get a code from the dev center which you redeem in the mac app store. This downloads an installer app that you run to install the Lion preview. no word on if this can be burned to a disk. About whether the developer account provides access to the final release, I will quote what the web site 9 to 5 mac wrote on their twitter account earlier today. "For those asking for Lion: $99 buys you a Mac Dev account which includes a copy of Lion when it is released. Seems like a bargain!" Hope this is helpful. Justin On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: hi! As much as you might think this is a news article plug, it is not. :) I actually had a question regarding my developer program for Mac OS X. It would be extremely helpful if someone here is a member of the $99 program and still has an active account. I know that the program provides access to pre-released software. I also know that Mac OS X 10.7 is out there now ready to download as a preview. What I wonder is this, though. Does the developer benefits include the official release, or are you required to actually buy the DVD for that? I would assume not, and if I am right, I will go ahead tonight when my connection becomes stable again to get it and burn it on my personal installation disk. I hope someone can answer this question. Additionally, I will not be providing any kind of hints as to VoiceOver or any excluded features from Apple's notes about Lion on the official page for the operating system. I will only provide the minimal information if anyone asks, but only what already is available from Apple. I will not violate the non-disclosure agreement regardless if this information is available elsewhere. Similarly, I will not provide any download mirrors for the installer or upload any pre-installed Mac OS X 10.7, Lion partitions. I will only install Mac OS X 10.7, Lion, on a separate partition to avoid any conflicts with Mac OS X 10.6.6, Snow Leopard, in order to focus primarily upon the development aspect in 10.7 and compatibility. In other words, don't write me privately to ask for a disk image. This is not a slam of any of you listers, but simply a request. I kindly ask you to abide by it, even though I am sure that you will even without asking. Thank you, and hopefully someone here can provide me an answer. :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 20:45:08 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:45:08 +0100 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0E5D74A6-E2EA-4416-BF38-C42BDA2F0C9D@gmail.com> hello Justin, Yeah, I was wondering about the redemption code. Thank you so much for the information. It was very, very helpful. :) I will look into it. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:40 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: > Hi Nic, > > Though I do not have a developer account, I have read several news articles today that may answer some of your questions. This is all stuff that has been posted in public sites by reputable news sources. Apparently, you get a code from the dev center which you redeem in the mac app store. This downloads an installer app that you run to install the Lion preview. no word on if this can be burned to a disk. > > About whether the developer account provides access to the final release, I will quote what the web site 9 to 5 mac wrote on their twitter account earlier today. "For those asking for Lion: $99 buys you a Mac Dev account which includes a copy of Lion when it is released. Seems like a bargain!" > > Hope this is helpful. > > Justin > > On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > hi! > > As much as you might think this is a news article plug, it is not. :) > > I actually had a question regarding my developer program for Mac OS X. It would be extremely helpful if someone here is a member of the $99 program and still has an active account. > > I know that the program provides access to pre-released software. I also know that Mac OS X 10.7 is out there now ready to download as a preview. What I wonder is this, though. Does the developer benefits include the official release, or are you required to actually buy the DVD for that? I would assume not, and if I am right, I will go ahead tonight when my connection becomes stable again to get it and burn it on my personal installation disk. > > I hope someone can answer this question. > > Additionally, I will not be providing any kind of hints as to VoiceOver or any excluded features from Apple's notes about Lion on the official page for the operating system. I will only provide the minimal information if anyone asks, but only what already is available from Apple. I will not violate the non-disclosure agreement regardless if this information is available elsewhere. > > Similarly, I will not provide any download mirrors for the installer or upload any pre-installed Mac OS X 10.7, Lion partitions. I will only install Mac OS X 10.7, Lion, on a separate partition to avoid any conflicts with Mac OS X 10.6.6, Snow Leopard, in order to focus primarily upon the development aspect in 10.7 and compatibility. > > In other words, don't write me privately to ask for a disk image. > > This is not a slam of any of you listers, but simply a request. I kindly ask you to abide by it, even though I am sure that you will even without asking. > > Thank you, and hopefully someone here can provide me an answer. :) > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Thu Feb 24 21:29:45 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:29:45 -1000 Subject: "Readability" in Safari [was Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers] In-Reply-To: <4D663A08.1040609@gmail.com> References: <227F75EF-4A38-48F3-AB72-92CB8C4E8B38@mac-access.net> <0A6412B5-009C-49BC-9B91-988B6CE26B89@mac.com> <4D663A08.1040609@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Maria, On Feb 24, 2011, at 00:59, Maria from Australia wrote: > HI does anyone know how to set this up in windows? I'd guess there is an equivalent way to set up this bookmarklet in Windows, but I can't check this out myself. According to the AppleVis.com site comments about using the Instapaper bookmarklet, you should be able to visit the web site: http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/es/ in Internet Explorer, and you should be able to tab to the "Readability" bookmarklet link. Now bring up the context menu by either pressing the Context menu key or pressing Shift+F10. Select the item "Add to Favorites." IE may present you a security warning, choose to proceed. Save the favorite in the usual way in a place you'll find it. To use it, when at an article you wish to Readability bookmark, choose the Readability bookmark from the Favorites menu that you created earlier in this process. Let me know if this works for you. You should be able to use this bookmarklet on your iPhone after you've created it. Also, you can get a "Readability" extension for Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/readability/ This will put extra buttons on your browser toolbar, so it won't help on your iDevices, but it might improve your web browsing experience on your computer. The same extensions for Safari can be found at: https://www.readability.com/addons Installation is easier than with the web bookmarklet, but I prefer the bookmarklet interface accessibility, and also, I keep my Safari toolbar hidden, so I don't like to have to navigate to buttons to get Readability to work. In addition, this doesn't give you a solution for your iDevices at the same time. HTH. Cheers, Esther From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 22:03:35 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:03:35 +0100 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> Message-ID: <324FB6FB-95F2-46F5-A232-633E34DD229F@gmail.com> Hey again, Just an update for those who are curious. I have figured everything out now. There is a redeem link in the App Store quick links section. You click it after logging into your activated developer account and obtaining your redemption code. The installer then begins to download. It will be put in your Applications folder. Further, it does not matter if your name is the same as the name on your Apple account. This means that even if the name linked to your developer account and Apple ID do not match, you can still use the code. It has to be said that you cannnot redownload the application. Should you wish to install it on additional Macs that you own, you may simply copy the application to the Applications folder of your other Macs and run it. One caveat, though, is that you have to authorize the computers you want to run the installer with the Apple ID for the Mac App Store to use the contents. Also, there is no longer a Mac OS X Server addition. This means that all t he server-side features come with the client edition. You can customize the installer to include whatever features you prefer to include. After selecting to initiate the installation of Lion, the Mac wil promptly restart from a Sudo startup volume. When the installation has completed, it restarts from the new Lion volume. This seems like it would greatly prevent piracy. Now, a pirate can't just hand over the disk image and have it work for anyone. :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 22:07:13 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:07:13 +0100 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5DBA2BED-68EB-4D86-8926-8ECA3ECD7AE0@gmail.com> Hi! Sorry, there is one important thing I forgot to include. :) If you hold down option during restart, the same way you would after the Apple ding, you will see an extra partition similar to "Recovery HD." When you click on this, you will be permitted to restore from a Time Machine backup, reinstall Mac OS X or start Disk Utility. I imagine this works with VoiceOver, too, though I have not tried that part yet. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Feb 24 22:25:16 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:25:16 +0000 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <324FB6FB-95F2-46F5-A232-633E34DD229F@gmail.com> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <324FB6FB-95F2-46F5-A232-633E34DD229F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Nick, I am a developer as you know, so I'm trying to phrase this question/comment carefuly. Like you, I'l be downloading Lion fairly soon and taking a sneak peak. I don't know whether you, or any other devs on here are into xCode at all, but one thing I'm hoping for is improved accessibility in Interface Builder. This is in no way taking away from Brian Smart's excellent work on Renaissance, but I'm particularly interested in doing IOS development, and I don't think Renaissance copes with that? Anyways, have you or anyone else heard any rumours out of Apple to suggest that this might be on the cards? D?nalOn 24 Feb 2011, at 22:03, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hey again, > > Just an update for those who are curious. > > I have figured everything out now. There is a redeem link in the App Store quick links section. You click it after logging into your activated developer account and obtaining your redemption code. > > The installer then begins to download. It will be put in your Applications folder. Further, it does not matter if your name is the same as the name on your Apple account. This means that even if the name linked to your developer account and Apple ID do not match, you can still use the code. It has to be said that you cannnot redownload the application. > > Should you wish to install it on additional Macs that you own, you may simply copy the application to the Applications folder of your other Macs and run it. One caveat, though, is that you have to authorize the computers you want to run the installer with the Apple ID for the Mac App Store to use the contents. > > Also, there is no longer a Mac OS X Server addition. This means that all t he server-side features come with the client edition. You can customize the installer to include whatever features you prefer to include. > > After selecting to initiate the installation of Lion, the Mac wil promptly restart from a Sudo startup volume. When the installation has completed, it restarts from the new Lion volume. > > This seems like it would greatly prevent piracy. Now, a pirate can't just hand over the disk image and have it work for anyone. :) > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 22:27:27 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:27:27 +0100 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <324FB6FB-95F2-46F5-A232-633E34DD229F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello D?nal No, I do not know of any improvements to Interface Builder in particular. Hopefully, there is something going on we don't know about just yet, but I'll certainly let everyone know if I know something. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Feb 24 22:31:57 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:31:57 +0000 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <324FB6FB-95F2-46F5-A232-633E34DD229F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Cheers nick I'll do the same :) On 24 Feb 2011, at 22:27, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello D?nal > > No, I do not know of any improvements to Interface Builder in particular. Hopefully, there is something going on we don't know about just yet, but I'll certainly let everyone know if I know something. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From abreier at kc.rr.com Thu Feb 24 22:54:13 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:54:13 -0600 Subject: "Readability" in Safari [was Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers] References: <227F75EF-4A38-48F3-AB72-92CB8C4E8B38@mac-access.net><0A6412B5-009C-49BC-9B91-988B6CE26B89@mac.com><4D663A08.1040609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <52337778E9EB4C6C9B7884D1179346E6@andrea78cdd59a> I am confused. If we set this up in windows, how can it be accessed while on the iphone? Is this something that can be used from both a windows platform as well as our iPhones. My best regards to you all, Andrea M. Breier Spread the laughter Share the cheer Let's be happy While we're here! NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:29 PM Subject: Re: "Readability" in Safari [was Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers] > Hi Maria, > > On Feb 24, 2011, at 00:59, Maria from Australia wrote: > >> HI does anyone know how to set this up in windows? > > I'd guess there is an equivalent way to set up this bookmarklet in > Windows, but I can't check this out myself. According to the AppleVis.com > site comments about using the Instapaper bookmarklet, you should be able > to visit the web site: > http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/es/ > in Internet Explorer, and you should be able to tab to the "Readability" > bookmarklet link. Now bring up the context menu by either pressing the > Context menu key or pressing Shift+F10. Select the item "Add to > Favorites." IE may present you a security warning, choose to proceed. Save > the favorite in the usual way in a place you'll find it. To use it, when > at an article you wish to Readability bookmark, choose the Readability > bookmark from the Favorites menu that you created earlier in this process. > > Let me know if this works for you. You should be able to use this > bookmarklet on your iPhone after you've created it. Also, you can get a > "Readability" extension for Firefox: > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/readability/ > > This will put extra buttons on your browser toolbar, so it won't help on > your iDevices, but it might improve your web browsing experience on your > computer. The same extensions for Safari can be found at: > https://www.readability.com/addons > > Installation is easier than with the web bookmarklet, but I prefer the > bookmarklet interface accessibility, and also, I keep my Safari toolbar > hidden, so I don't like to have to navigate to buttons to get Readability > to work. In addition, this doesn't give you a solution for your iDevices > at the same time. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 22:59:58 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:59:58 -0500 Subject: well, finally bought a Mac Message-ID: <4d66e2eb.4c8de50a.2e77.002d@mx.google.com> Hello all, I've been on this list for a while but without a Mac. With the launch of the new MBPs today I figured it was time. So, I now await the arrival of my new 13 incher with 2.7 gigahertz core i7 processor. Can't wait. Kevin Kevin Barry If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something. From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 23:19:20 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:19:20 -0600 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> Message-ID: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is very important, considering this is a major Mac OS X update. It needs to be tested thoroughly. Based on polling Twitter, specific followers etc, I'm not sure if there are any blind VoiceOver beta testers of Lion. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > hi! > > As much as you might think this is a news article plug, it is not. :) > > I actually had a question regarding my developer program for Mac OS X. It would be extremely helpful if someone here is a member of the $99 program and still has an active account. > > I know that the program provides access to pre-released software. I also know that Mac OS X 10.7 is out there now ready to download as a preview. What I wonder is this, though. Does the developer benefits include the official release, or are you required to actually buy the DVD for that? I would assume not, and if I am right, I will go ahead tonight when my connection becomes stable again to get it and burn it on my personal installation disk. > > I hope someone can answer this question. > > Additionally, I will not be providing any kind of hints as to VoiceOver or any excluded features from Apple's notes about Lion on the official page for the operating system. I will only provide the minimal information if anyone asks, but only what already is available from Apple. I will not violate the non-disclosure agreement regardless if this information is available elsewhere. > > Similarly, I will not provide any download mirrors for the installer or upload any pre-installed Mac OS X 10.7, Lion partitions. I will only install Mac OS X 10.7, Lion, on a separate partition to avoid any conflicts with Mac OS X 10.6.6, Snow Leopard, in order to focus primarily upon the development aspect in 10.7 and compatibility. > > In other words, don't write me privately to ask for a disk image. > > This is not a slam of any of you listers, but simply a request. I kindly ask you to abide by it, even though I am sure that you will even without asking. > > Thank you, and hopefully someone here can provide me an answer. :) > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rawoolgrove at btinternet.com Thu Feb 24 23:54:53 2011 From: rawoolgrove at btinternet.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:54:53 -0000 Subject: Take control books Message-ID: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> Hi listers, Recently I got some of the Take Control books through Gordon and Lynne here. I would like to take this opportunity to thank them both, in these difficult times for supplying the literature. Also I'd like to let you all know that if like me, you are really new to Mac and have come accross from Windows, some of these titles are absolutely brilliant. Genuinely excellent. I've had my mac for a few months now and haven't really had time to get to know it, and truth be told, I've been a little worried about messing it up before getting deeply involved with it. I've taken a brief peek at all of the books but have focused quite a bit on Take Control of Switching to the Mac. If the rest of these books are as good as this and I have no reason to believe otherwise, my Mac book and I will be announcing our engagement very shortly. So if you are struggling in general, are a complete novice or just feel like getting some additional guidance - get a couple of titles. Thank you for taking the time to read this email. Roger From moriond at mac.com Fri Feb 25 00:08:25 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:08:25 -1000 Subject: "Readability" in Safari [was Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers] In-Reply-To: <52337778E9EB4C6C9B7884D1179346E6@andrea78cdd59a> References: <227F75EF-4A38-48F3-AB72-92CB8C4E8B38@mac-access.net> <0A6412B5-009C-49BC-9B91-988B6CE26B89@mac.com> <4D663A08.1040609@gmail.com> <52337778E9EB4C6C9B7884D1179346E6@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <9923F6FF-F252-4BF7-B1B7-5A1A17E84911@mac.com> Hi Andrea, On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:54, Andrea Breier wrote: > I am confused. If we set this up in windows, how can it be accessed while on the iphone? Is this something that can be used from both a windows platform as well as our iPhones. I may be mistaken about this, but my understanding is that you can Sync your bookmarks to your iPhone if you are on a Mac using Safari, and also if you are on a Windows PC and you sync your bookmarks from either Safari for Windows or Internet Explorer. At least, that is what is stated in the Apple Knowledge Base Document, "iOS: How to transfer or sync content to your computer": http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1296 This document describes syncing various items between an iDevice and a computer (in both directions). Under Bookmarks it says: You can sync bookmarks between your computer and your device. When syncing is enabled, all bookmarks will sync. You can sync bookmarks with the following applications: ? Safari (Mac OS X 10.4.11 or later) ? Safari for Windows (Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7) ? Microsoft Internet Explorer Note: Microsoft Internet Explorer refers to bookmarks as Favorites. Since someone commented on the AppleVis.com site that the Instapaper web bookmarklet, which is a javascript bookmarklet similar to the Readability bookmarklet, can be saved as a bookmark (aka "Favorite") under Internet Explorer by tabbing to the bookmarklet and using a context menu item to "Add to Favorites", I assumed this recipe could also be used by a Windows user who wanted to save the "Readability" bookmarklet to his or her favorites in Internet Explorer. Then, assuming that you use Internet Explorer as your browser, and you choose to sync its bookmarks (or "favorites") to your iPhone, this bookmarklet would transfer over to the bookmarks under Safari on your iPhone. It is possible to save the "Readability" bookmarklet to your bookmarks bar working entirely on your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, but the steps are more complicated, and are not helped by the fact that I'd have to explain how to negotiate a web page that is written in Spanish to users who likely do not speak or understand that language. To answer your question: yes, the "Readability" bookmarklet is something that can be used both in a browser on your computer (which could be on a Windows platform) as well as on the iPhone. When applied, it basically reformats web pages that contain articles so that extraneous web items outside of the article, such as advertising images and links, and other such items that are not relevant to reading the article, are eliminated from the reformatted page. The only links on the page are three that are added at the beginning (to get back to the original page format, print the reformatted paged, and email the page (haven't tried this -- could be a link), plus any links that were actually within the original article. That means that your screen reader doesn't have to negotiate countless web elements that are irrelevant to the content you want to read, and it's even more of a bonus on the iPhone, since the available web rotor gesture settings are less sophisticated than what's available to you on your computer, where you might execute a "Find", for example. So there's a two-fold reason for posting about the "Readability Bookmarklet": (1) it makes reading text content on the web and navigating to the key text much easier and (2) if you sync your bookmarks to your iDevice, which is a general feature that is available fro Safari on the Mac, and also on the Windows PC side if you sync bookmarks from Safari for Windows or Favorites from Internet Explorer, you can also put a "Readability" bookmarklet on your iDevice that simplifies text reading and navigation in your Safari web browser on the iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. Also, for low vision users, or just parents or "Seniors" who are not visually impaired, but would prefer to use larger fonts, the "Readability" bookmarklet gives you this, and optionally can be set up to give a high contrast background. (My father likes the bigger fonts.) On regular desktop browsers, the "Readability" feature can be implemented as either a bookmarklet or a browser extension. I gave the links to the Safari and Firefox Readability browser extensions in my reply post to Maria. Browser extensions add buttons to the browser toolbar. While I can open my Safari toolbar, and navigate to buttons added by the "Readability" Safari extension and press them with VO-Space, it's much handier to simply use the Bookmarks Bar shortcuts and press (for example) Command-1 to apply the bookmarklet. Also, as bookmarks, the bookmarklet can be synced to your Safari bookmarks on an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad. The bookmarklet is really, really handy on an iPad, where you have set "Always Show Bookmarks Bar" to "on" in your Settings > Safari, because it's so easy to access it. HTH, and that I haven't gone on too long. Cheers, Esther From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 00:31:03 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:31:03 +0100 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> Message-ID: <085BB738-A366-4D42-8FCE-332413171A10@gmail.com> Hello Kevin, Well, since I am enrolled, I will of course submit my reports to Apple, as you will know if you read my other messages concerning the obtaining of the installer. There are some known issues already, in fact a long list, but those will probably be rectified and are not all concerning VoiceOver. I only know of one so far concerning VoiceOver, but then, I'll dive more into it later. I also recommend installing it on an external hard drive if possible or, if you have the extra space, on a separate partition apart from your current Mac OS X installation to preserve cross-compatibility. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From abreier at kc.rr.com Fri Feb 25 00:42:21 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:42:21 -0600 Subject: "Readability" in Safari [was Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers] References: <227F75EF-4A38-48F3-AB72-92CB8C4E8B38@mac-access.net><0A6412B5-009C-49BC-9B91-988B6CE26B89@mac.com><4D663A08.1040609@gmail.com><52337778E9EB4C6C9B7884D1179346E6@andrea78cdd59a> <9923F6FF-F252-4BF7-B1B7-5A1A17E84911@mac.com> Message-ID: <9179354D87204C4FAD91BAD68F7E7ED3@andrea78cdd59a> As always Esther your response is wonderful. Now I have a lot to chew on and explore. Also your response right off the top helps clear up how this might be used. My book marks do transfer over and This will make it easier to get a hold of it to try it out on my iphone. . Hat's off to you! My best regards to you all, Andrea M. Breier Spread the laughter Share the cheer Let's be happy While we're here! NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:08 PM Subject: Re: "Readability" in Safari [was Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers] > Hi Andrea, > > On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:54, Andrea Breier wrote: > >> I am confused. If we set this up in windows, how can it be accessed >> while on the iphone? Is this something that can be used from both a >> windows platform as well as our iPhones. > > I may be mistaken about this, but my understanding is that you can Sync > your bookmarks to your iPhone if you are on a Mac using Safari, and also > if you are on a Windows PC and you sync your bookmarks from either Safari > for Windows or Internet Explorer. At least, that is what is stated in the > Apple Knowledge Base Document, "iOS: How to transfer or sync content to > your computer": > http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1296 > This document describes syncing various items between an iDevice and a > computer (in both directions). Under Bookmarks it says: > > You can sync bookmarks between your computer and your device. When syncing > is enabled, all bookmarks will sync. You can sync bookmarks with the > following applications: > > ? Safari (Mac OS X 10.4.11 or later) > ? Safari for Windows (Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7) > ? Microsoft Internet Explorer > Note: Microsoft Internet Explorer refers to bookmarks as Favorites. > > > Since someone commented on the AppleVis.com site that the Instapaper web > bookmarklet, which is a javascript bookmarklet similar to the Readability > bookmarklet, can be saved as a bookmark (aka "Favorite") under Internet > Explorer by tabbing to the bookmarklet and using a context menu item to > "Add to Favorites", I assumed this recipe could also be used by a Windows > user who wanted to save the "Readability" bookmarklet to his or her > favorites in Internet Explorer. Then, assuming that you use Internet > Explorer as your browser, and you choose to sync its bookmarks (or > "favorites") to your iPhone, this bookmarklet would transfer over to the > bookmarks under Safari on your iPhone. > > It is possible to save the "Readability" bookmarklet to your bookmarks bar > working entirely on your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, but the steps are > more complicated, and are not helped by the fact that I'd have to explain > how to negotiate a web page that is written in Spanish to users who likely > do not speak or understand that language. > > To answer your question: yes, the "Readability" bookmarklet is something > that can be used both in a browser on your computer (which could be on a > Windows platform) as well as on the iPhone. When applied, it basically > reformats web pages that contain articles so that extraneous web items > outside of the article, such as advertising images and links, and other > such items that are not relevant to reading the article, are eliminated > from the reformatted page. The only links on the page are three that are > added at the beginning (to get back to the original page format, print the > reformatted paged, and email the page (haven't tried this -- could be a > link), plus any links that were actually within the original article. > That means that your screen reader doesn't have to negotiate countless web > elements that are irrelevant to the content you want to read, and it's > even more of a bonus on the iPhone, since the available web rotor gesture > settings are less sophisticated than what's available to you on your > computer, where you might execute a "Find", for example. > > So there's a two-fold reason for posting about the "Readability > Bookmarklet": (1) it makes reading text content on the web and navigating > to the key text much easier and (2) if you sync your bookmarks to your > iDevice, which is a general feature that is available fro Safari on the > Mac, and also on the Windows PC side if you sync bookmarks from Safari for > Windows or Favorites from Internet Explorer, you can also put a > "Readability" bookmarklet on your iDevice that simplifies text reading and > navigation in your Safari web browser on the iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. > Also, for low vision users, or just parents or "Seniors" who are not > visually impaired, but would prefer to use larger fonts, the "Readability" > bookmarklet gives you this, and optionally can be set up to give a high > contrast background. (My father likes the bigger fonts.) > > On regular desktop browsers, the "Readability" feature can be implemented > as either a bookmarklet or a browser extension. I gave the links to the > Safari and Firefox Readability browser extensions in my reply post to > Maria. Browser extensions add buttons to the browser toolbar. While I > can open my Safari toolbar, and navigate to buttons added by the > "Readability" Safari extension and press them with VO-Space, it's much > handier to simply use the Bookmarks Bar shortcuts and press (for example) > Command-1 to apply the bookmarklet. Also, as bookmarks, the bookmarklet > can be synced to your Safari bookmarks on an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad. > The bookmarklet is really, really handy on an iPad, where you have set > "Always Show Bookmarks Bar" to "on" in your Settings > Safari, because > it's so easy to access it. > > HTH, and that I haven't gone on too long. > > Cheers, > > Esther > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 01:11:10 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:11:10 -0600 Subject: iPad: iWork Pages and Numbers Message-ID: <8A0BB215-229E-486A-A5F0-46C55A0890C3@gmail.com> In episode 10, VoiceOver On Team delivers to you: iWork Pages and Numbers detailed look. We go into selecting text/cells, formatting, bringing up info and various options, and much more. Listen: http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com Subscribe: http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com/feed Sent from my iPhone From billd at insightbb.com Fri Feb 25 03:32:44 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:32:44 -0500 Subject: well, finally bought a Mac In-Reply-To: <4d66e2eb.4c8de50a.2e77.002d@mx.google.com> References: <4d66e2eb.4c8de50a.2e77.002d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4E188883-06DD-49DD-9BCA-F298D684DC77@insightbb.com> Hi Kevin, congratulations. Good times are ahead for you with that new mac. Bill deatherage From khwicca at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 04:57:00 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:57:00 -0500 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Nick, Where do you get this? I didn't see it at the app store. Kristeen On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello, > > I quite like YoruFukurou. it supports multiple accounts, and supports keyboard shortcuts not only bound to modifier keys, which means you can navigate to a tweet and hit "l" to open links within the tweet. It is also very important to note that you must navigate with up and down arrows only, not VoiceOver up and down. You can, however, interact with the tweets table and navigate to the column containing the tweet as there are three columns spanning the table. I know that one of them contains a profile image if present of the user. > > It's a very nice client, and I could talk ages about the client. It has a lot of features, and works really well with VoiceOver. It also has various sounds for the various events for Twitter, such as mentions, sent and direct messages. It also supports automatic shortening of URLs and also provides a command to shorten a URL if you have not set automatic shortening. You may also add custom URL shorteners if you desire. > > It also has a "silent" mode. This briefly shuts off all notifications such as Growl and sound alerts until you uncheck it. It is a menu item located in the "Yorufukurou" menu, which means that you can go into System Preferences under Keyboard>Keyboard Shortcuts tab, add an application shortcut for YoruFukurou, enter the name of the menu item "Silent Mode" with matching upper and lower case letters, and hold down the command you would like to assign to it. Of course, this should preferably be a command which does not conflict with current commands in YoruFukurou, such as COmmand-Shift-S. > > This e-mail is kind of rushed, for which I apologize. If there is anything I have missed that you think is important, please reply and provide input. More is better! :) > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jekis at fastmail.us Fri Feb 25 06:37:47 2011 From: jekis at fastmail.us (Justin Ekis) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:37:47 -0800 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <085BB738-A366-4D42-8FCE-332413171A10@gmail.com> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <085BB738-A366-4D42-8FCE-332413171A10@gmail.com> Message-ID: <52FBD9C2-425C-4071-812B-952CF9D85BBC@fastmail.us> Hi Nic and all, I'm considering getting a developer account in March or April, just to have someone else beta testing it. One general question that I have is this. If installing on a separate partition, is the interface for choosing which partition to boot accessible? Thanks, Justin On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hello Kevin, Well, since I am enrolled, I will of course submit my reports to Apple, as you will know if you read my other messages concerning the obtaining of the installer. There are some known issues already, in fact a long list, but those will probably be rectified and are not all concerning VoiceOver. I only know of one so far concerning VoiceOver, but then, I'll dive more into it later. I also recommend installing it on an external hard drive if possible or, if you have the extra space, on a separate partition apart from your current Mac OS X installation to preserve cross-compatibility. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 06:42:38 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:42:38 +0100 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <9396ACA0-8F43-4910-9978-F6C954F0A175@gmail.com> Hi Kristeen, It's not in the App Store. Here is their website: http://sites.google.com/site/yorufukurou/home-en You should be able to find the download link. :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 06:45:15 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:45:15 +0100 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <52FBD9C2-425C-4071-812B-952CF9D85BBC@fastmail.us> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <085BB738-A366-4D42-8FCE-332413171A10@gmail.com> <52FBD9C2-425C-4071-812B-952CF9D85BBC@fastmail.us> Message-ID: Hello Justin, No, it is not. However, you can either choose Lion as your startup disk, or simply keep your current installation as Mac OS X as your startup disk. If you hold down option for about ten seconds roughly when you hear the famous ding sound after either restarting or turning on your Mac, your current startup disk should primarily always be your first option. This means that Lion will probably be the second if you move right once with right arrow and hit enter. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Feb 25 07:15:24 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:15:24 +0000 Subject: well, finally bought a Mac In-Reply-To: <4E188883-06DD-49DD-9BCA-F298D684DC77@insightbb.com> References: <4d66e2eb.4c8de50a.2e77.002d@mx.google.com> <4E188883-06DD-49DD-9BCA-F298D684DC77@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <9D0119DD-5871-4BE6-BAD2-3F509689B5BB@googlemail.com> yep i agree i've had my mac about half a year now and love it, i admit i'm still learning but i am very profissiont with the basics and i am stil hoping to learn new things in the future like garage badnd and things like that. Ian McNamara From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 07:22:52 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:22:52 +0000 Subject: CUT AND COPY In-Reply-To: References: <349C57D0-B06C-4D97-BD18-5A486A1C3AEA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <087DFB2E-0501-4774-BDF8-CE5237A73C9D@mac-access.net> hello Marcy and Kristeen On 22 Feb 2011, at 12:31, Marcy Weinberg wrote: If you're talking about cut and copy folders and/or files in the finder, this can't be done, so you have to copy the folder/file you want, put them where you want to move them, paste them in, then go back to the original location and send the original to the trash with command-delete. Thank you for reminding me of this; I need to contact Lyn about this very issue; or at least, a variant of it. Lyn; I know I said I would do so. But life has been one major issue after another recently which is why we are so very very behind on email. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 07:27:45 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:27:45 +0000 Subject: Thinking of getting A server for the home. In-Reply-To: <20110222165002.17581.94176@domU-12-31-38-07-3C-65.compute-1.internal> References: <20110222165002.17581.94176@domU-12-31-38-07-3C-65.compute-1.internal> Message-ID: Hello Stuart On 22 Feb 2011, at 16:50, Stuart Young wrote: ? I'm thinking of getting a mac server for my home to host all of my shared media that i have in itunes, how well does mac OSX server work? as i have some windows computers and they will need to share the content as well. also this server will maybe used for some home automation as well does anyone no of any home automation applications that work with voice over?. To be honest for what you're talking about doing you'd be wasting your money. You could accomplish the same thing as you want to do using a regular Mac Mini with the client OSX. Server would be a huge overkill for that. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 07:29:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:29:40 +0000 Subject: Voiceover spontaneously returns to its default settings In-Reply-To: <5BBC224B-6F76-4E6C-A1D0-87BBBB4852B4@scavendish.co.uk> References: <5BBC224B-6F76-4E6C-A1D0-87BBBB4852B4@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: <1F2DFA8C-1EF6-4F6C-95ED-AB3FAF5DA1E3@mac-access.net> Hello Simon On 22 Feb 2011, at 17:30, Simon Cavendish wrote: ? It's been happening for some time now: Voiceover, quite unexpectedly and without any help from me, returns to its default settings and I have to set custom options in Voiceover utility again. It's very boring and irritating. Has anyone noticed this behaviour, and is there anything I can do to prevent it? Gordon has also seen this happen, but we have nailed it down to when there is a network or similar issue. He's been liaising with somebody at Apple on this. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 07:39:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:39:12 +0000 Subject: Introducing a little more to our blog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3CAAAEDB-5B1D-4E8A-96F4-8C180EC7861E@mac-access.net> Hello James On 23 Feb 2011, at 21:13, James AUSTIN wrote: A nice edition to Mac-Access. We have more things yet that we want to do. It's just been so so busy around here lately and we haven't had the time we would have liked. But thank you for the encouragement; I have passed your comments on. Lynne From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 07:39:46 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:39:46 +0100 Subject: Thinking of getting A server for the home. In-Reply-To: References: <20110222165002.17581.94176@domU-12-31-38-07-3C-65.compute-1.internal> Message-ID: Hi, With the addition of Lion now out as a preview, getting Mac OS X Server would be a waste anyway. The server features are included if you want them, and you can configure which features you would like to include during the installation, including some really nice new features for the server part of it. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 07:43:05 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:43:05 +0000 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> Message-ID: Hello Rose On 23 Feb 2011, at 21:50, Rose Morales wrote: ? I would highly recommend YoruFukurou. It had some VO bugs, but communication with the developers has fixed them. Also, it supports multiple accounts, and you can easily switch between them. YoruFukurou is the most accessible client out of the most advanced Mac twitter clients that are out there. I've been searching all over and have found nothing else that beats it. May I ask why you prefer this over Syrix? We have used Syrix since we started tweeting late last year, and found that it's doing what we need. So what, based on the fact that we only have a single account, would we be able to do that we cannot do with Syrix? I'm just curious as I keep hearing differing opinions. I supposed I live in the world of "It isn't broken so I won't fix it". Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 07:46:34 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:46:34 +0000 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <069A9642-7B45-4A64-BBCC-0975717D354A@gmail.com> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9B98D46B-F7B6-412F-82F2-CE2545CB8449@chicksdigmacs.net> <4BF5296F-5DD0-4B82-80F9-497252FC2CC2@mac-access.net> <069A9642-7B45-4A64-BBCC-0975717D354A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Nic, Rose, James, Don, and all This one really did amuse me when I turned on VoiceOver. Why do I want to "Doich Mark", ((excuse the spelling)? Lynne On 23 Feb 2011, at 22:27, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hello james, People primarily have to follow you first before you DM them. That is the only reason that this feature does not work for you, at least in regards to YoruFukurou. From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 08:00:54 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:00:54 +0000 Subject: CUT AND COPY In-Reply-To: <087DFB2E-0501-4774-BDF8-CE5237A73C9D@mac-access.net> References: <349C57D0-B06C-4D97-BD18-5A486A1C3AEA@gmail.com> <087DFB2E-0501-4774-BDF8-CE5237A73C9D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4F02125C-0D44-4532-B979-933E9247CE06@mac-access.net> > hello Marcy and Kristeen, As well as copying and then deleting the copied folder in Finder, you can also accomplish this via the Command Line. Personally, I find this more efficient, but there is a considerable amount of typing involved. The benefit of the Command Line though is that moving folders can be done in one go. This is especially useful when moving a large numbero of folders. I.e.: mv -i interesting_folder.zip /Uses/~/Dropbox The "mv" command moves the file the dash after it followed by the letter "i" confirms that you want ot replace the folder if it already exists in Dropbox. Hope this helps TC :) J On 25 Feb 2011, at 07:22, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > hello Marcy and Kristeen > > On 22 Feb 2011, at 12:31, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > > If you're talking about cut and copy folders and/or files in the finder, this can't be done, so you have to copy the folder/file you want, put them where you want to move them, paste them in, then go back to the original location and send the original to the trash with command-delete. > > Thank you for reminding me of this; I need to contact Lyn about this very issue; or at least, a variant of it. > > Lyn; I know I said I would do so. But life has been one major issue after another recently which is why we are so very very behind on email. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 08:14:20 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:14:20 +0000 Subject: Take control books In-Reply-To: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> Message-ID: Hello Roger Gordon and I are very glad to hear that you and your books, and also now your MacBook, are getting along so well together. We are always happy to help where we can and will be contacting a couple of people on list very shortly regarding their bookshelves. We are now in a position to make the links permanent. Gordon has done a lot of work to remedy the problems we had and we now have both of our network trunks working. Actually, he was so impressed by the modem we were given as a replacement for the one which was faulty, a more expensive model than the one we originally bought, that he opted to buy the more expensive modem for the second trunk as well. That arrived on Wednesday and is now up and running. All of our servers are now behaving absolutely perfectly, despite the awful fright they gave us yesterday. Gordon is now something of an "expert" with the server-side features of OSX and we are very much looking forward to the Lion updates when they become available to us. We hope that they have fixed the bugs which Gordon discussed at length with Apple after the release of 10.6. Lynne From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 08:18:50 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:18:50 +0000 Subject: Take control books In-Reply-To: References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> Message-ID: <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> Lyn the developer preview of Lion is now out can't gordon get that? On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:14, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Roger > > Gordon and I are very glad to hear that you and your books, and also now your MacBook, are getting along so well together. > > We are always happy to help where we can and will be contacting a couple of people on list very shortly regarding their bookshelves. We are now in a position to make the links permanent. Gordon has done a lot of work to remedy the problems we had and we now have both of our network trunks working. > > Actually, he was so impressed by the modem we were given as a replacement for the one which was faulty, a more expensive model than the one we originally bought, that he opted to buy the more expensive modem for the second trunk as well. That arrived on Wednesday and is now up and running. > > All of our servers are now behaving absolutely perfectly, despite the awful fright they gave us yesterday. Gordon is now something of an "expert" with the server-side features of OSX and we are very much looking forward to the Lion updates when they become available to us. > > We hope that they have fixed the bugs which Gordon discussed at length with Apple after the release of 10.6. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 08:20:52 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:20:52 +0000 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <52FBD9C2-425C-4071-812B-952CF9D85BBC@fastmail.us> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <085BB738-A366-4D42-8FCE-332413171A10@gmail.com> <52FBD9C2-425C-4071-812B-952CF9D85BBC@fastmail.us> Message-ID: <503EE93D-BF2E-462B-AAD8-E1407C384DC9@gmail.com> how much are they? I know I am no developer but at least we can have voiceover testing done by the wider community if we pay On 25 Feb 2011, at 06:37, Justin Ekis wrote: > Hi Nic and all, > > I'm considering getting a developer account in March or April, just to have someone else beta testing it. One general question that I have is this. If installing on a separate partition, is the interface for choosing which partition to boot accessible? > > Thanks, > > Justin > > On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hello Kevin, > > Well, since I am enrolled, I will of course submit my reports to Apple, as you will know if you read my other messages concerning the obtaining of the installer. > > There are some known issues already, in fact a long list, but those will probably be rectified and are not all concerning VoiceOver. I only know of one so far concerning VoiceOver, but then, I'll dive more into it later. I also recommend installing it on an external hard drive if possible or, if you have the extra space, on a separate partition apart from your current Mac OS X installation to preserve cross-compatibility. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 08:23:13 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:23:13 +0000 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <324FB6FB-95F2-46F5-A232-633E34DD229F@gmail.com> Message-ID: hi nick any updates on the braille tables? I know you can't say to much of course but if languages are there, be great, and i assume the IOS voices are not present? On 24 Feb 2011, at 22:27, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello D?nal > > No, I do not know of any improvements to Interface Builder in particular. Hopefully, there is something going on we don't know about just yet, but I'll certainly let everyone know if I know something. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From a.beech at bigpond.net.au Fri Feb 25 08:51:08 2011 From: a.beech at bigpond.net.au (Adrian Beech) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:51:08 +1000 Subject: Thinking of getting A server for the home. In-Reply-To: References: <20110222165002.17581.94176@domU-12-31-38-07-3C-65.compute-1.internal> Message-ID: <00c301cbd4c9$25f85da0$71e918e0$@bigpond.net.au> So if I interpret this rightly Apple's plans are that there will only be one version from Lion onwards? -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Friday, 25 February 2011 5:40 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Thinking of getting A server for the home. Hi, With the addition of Lion now out as a preview, getting Mac OS X Server would be a waste anyway. The server features are included if you want them, and you can configure which features you would like to include during the installation, including some really nice new features for the server part of it. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 09:32:18 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:32:18 +0000 Subject: Take control books In-Reply-To: <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> Hello William On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:18, william lomas wrote: Lyn the developer preview of Lion is now out can't gordon get that? We are trying. But on the registration screen, the select state button is dimmed out because we are in the UK and the contonue button won't click unless that field is populated, it seems. Sadly it looks like another example of Apple ignoring the fact that there is intelligent life outside of the USA. This is one thing which really irritates me about Apple sometimes. They know us; they have our info; they have us verified; but still they are playing these stupid games with their websites. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 09:33:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:33:32 +0000 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <503EE93D-BF2E-462B-AAD8-E1407C384DC9@gmail.com> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <085BB738-A366-4D42-8FCE-332413171A10@gmail.com> <52FBD9C2-425C-4071-812B-952CF9D85BBC@fastmail.us> <503EE93D-BF2E-462B-AAD8-E1407C384DC9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello William On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:20, william lomas wrote: how much are they? Well, $99.00 plus the cost of your emigration to the United States! Lynne From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 09:38:01 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:38:01 +0000 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <085BB738-A366-4D42-8FCE-332413171A10@gmail.com> <52FBD9C2-425C-4071-812B-952CF9D85BBC@fastmail.us> <503EE93D-BF2E-462B-AAD8-E1407C384DC9@gmail.com> Message-ID: oh so you can't get them outside US? On 25 Feb 2011, at 09:33, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello William > > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:20, william lomas wrote: > > how much are they? > > Well, $99.00 plus the cost of your emigration to the United States! > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Feb 25 09:38:27 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:38:27 +0000 Subject: Take control books In-Reply-To: <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> Don't take it personally Lynne, I'm having similar issues in ROI... *smile* On 25 Feb 2011, at 09:32, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello William > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:18, william lomas wrote: > > Lyn the developer preview of Lion is now out can't gordon get that? > > We are trying. But on the registration screen, the select state button is dimmed out because we are in the UK and the contonue button won't click unless that field is populated, it seems. > > Sadly it looks like another example of Apple ignoring the fact that there is intelligent life outside of the USA. > > This is one thing which really irritates me about Apple sometimes. They know us; they have our info; they have us verified; but still they are playing these stupid games with their websites. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 09:43:33 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:43:33 +0000 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <085BB738-A366-4D42-8FCE-332413171A10@gmail.com> <52FBD9C2-425C-4071-812B-952CF9D85BBC@fastmail.us> <503EE93D-BF2E-462B-AAD8-E1407C384DC9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3220DAAE-7672-4620-8AC9-9D4B5CFC850B@mac-access.net> That's how it looks yes, and Lynne is really narked. Gordon On 25 Feb 2011, at 09:38, william lomas wrote: oh so you can't get them outside US? From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 09:45:35 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:45:35 +0000 Subject: Take control books In-Reply-To: <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> Lynne gets very very irritated about this sort of thing actually. No, it's not just she and I, of course. But the inferred presumption is what gets up her nose I think. On 25 Feb 2011, at 09:38, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Don't take it personally Lynne, I'm having similar issues in ROI... *smile* From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Feb 25 09:47:06 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:47:06 +0000 Subject: Take control books In-Reply-To: <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Not the only one Gordon I promise you. It's even worse for us over here. For years we couldn't order stuff from Amazon.co.uk because we weren't in the UK. I'm referring to things like electronics, some books, kitchen/homeware etc. Anyway I'm digressing! *laughing* slap on the wrist for me.. On 25 Feb 2011, at 09:45, Gordon Smith wrote: > Lynne gets very very irritated about this sort of thing actually. No, it's not just she and I, of course. But the inferred presumption is what gets up her nose I think. > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 09:38, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Don't take it personally Lynne, I'm having similar issues in ROI... *smile* > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 09:58:21 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:58:21 +0100 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <324FB6FB-95F2-46F5-A232-633E34DD229F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5E9AFE6E-D659-4C92-8347-BE699E237F74@gmail.com> Hi all. Are there any of you who are testing braille on lion. I think it is important that there are some braille testers on lion. Please let me know if there are any. Best regards Annie. On 25/02/2011, at 09.23, william lomas wrote: > hi nick any updates on the braille tables? > I know you can't say to much of course but if languages are there, be great, and i assume the IOS voices are not present? > > On 24 Feb 2011, at 22:27, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hello D?nal >> >> No, I do not know of any improvements to Interface Builder in particular. Hopefully, there is something going on we don't know about just yet, but I'll certainly let everyone know if I know something. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 10:02:13 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:02:13 +0100 Subject: Thinking of getting A server for the home. In-Reply-To: <00c301cbd4c9$25f85da0$71e918e0$@bigpond.net.au> References: <20110222165002.17581.94176@domU-12-31-38-07-3C-65.compute-1.internal> <00c301cbd4c9$25f85da0$71e918e0$@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <276E2C2F-198D-4A68-9CAC-31D7995D9C09@gmail.com> Hi, Yes, that is correct. Of course, this is only a preview so far and it is a lot easier to just put it all in one but I can't imagine Apple getting rid of this. It is far more convenient. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 10:18:11 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:18:11 +0100 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <41CFAE47-45CE-499C-A97B-B8F33CF8C9DC@mac-access.net> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <4E9F765B-710E-477A-9408-9435D837083C@mac-access.net> <41CFAE47-45CE-499C-A97B-B8F33CF8C9DC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Lynne, I wrote a private e-mail back to you when you sent me one off-list, but I'll put this here as well for those who are having issues proceeding with their checkout. On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > I'm confused; are there separate programmes? I clicked enrol now, and it talks about choosing your programme. Which do I want? You want the Mac OS X developer program, first of all. Secondly, you can continue. If you use the link I provided earlier http://developer.apple.com/programs/mac/ then click "Enroll now" you can select a program. All the steps are outlined in a list above the headings for the specific information you are required to enter. Simply proceed with the steps. There is nothing important that is not self-explanatory. Simply continue all the way. If you select your country (Denmark in my case,) you can simply leave the "State" popup alone and not touch it at all. SImply keep clicking continue, agree to the license agreement and add to your cart. It will then take you to your own Online Apple Store where you can then complete your purcahse. That's really all there is to it. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > I'm confused; are there separate programmes? I clicked enrol now, and it talks about choosing your programme. Which do I want? > > Lynne > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:04, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hello Lynne, > > Yes, this is definitely possible. I would have figured that beta testing VOiceOver would have resulted in him being given a version of Lion, but since Gordon does not have one, you can sign up at the Mac OS X program here: > http://developer.apple.com/programs/mac/ > and simply click the link that says "enroll now." > > If that URL does not work for you, simply go to the main Apple Developer website, click Programs, click "Mac Developer Program" then "Enroll now." > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 11:35:44 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:35:44 +0000 Subject: transmission has no windows Message-ID: <154D9424-BC89-4B5E-9541-6882D3713B72@gmail.com> hi has anyone else noted taht when u start the tranission client it says it has non windows? From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 11:43:55 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:43:55 +0000 Subject: Take control books In-Reply-To: References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> Hi D?nal Can you order now from Amazon? If so, you might like to order the DVD of the Manchester United 2009/10 FA cup campaign.. LOL! Seriously, I think this sort of stuff should be jumped on by international governments. Yeah, I know that the Republic of Ireland is currently in a state of quantum flux, meltdown, call it what you will. But all the same, Apple should be slammed, and all companies like them who produce this sort of issue is intolerable. On 25 Feb 2011, at 09:47, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Not the only one Gordon I promise you. It's even worse for us over here. For years we couldn't order stuff from Amazon.co.uk because we weren't in the UK. I'm referring to things like electronics, some books, kitchen/homeware etc. Anyway I'm digressing! *laughing* slap on the wrist for me.. From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 11:45:18 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:45:18 +0000 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <5E9AFE6E-D659-4C92-8347-BE699E237F74@gmail.com> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <324FB6FB-95F2-46F5-A232-633E34DD229F@gmail.com> <5E9AFE6E-D659-4C92-8347-BE699E237F74@gmail.com> Message-ID: <652CA6B2-FD87-43A5-ABE8-D08564276AE0@mac-access.net> Hi Anne Yes, that's one reason I want to get involved. But we have lots more. Gordon On 25 Feb 2011, at 09:58, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi all. Are there any of you who are testing braille on lion. I think it is important that there are some braille testers on lion. Please let me know if there are any. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Feb 25 11:48:26 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:48:26 +0000 Subject: Take control books In-Reply-To: <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Ouch Gordon that hurt!!! :-) Couldn't agree more with you on the other comments though. On 25 Feb 2011, at 11:43, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi D?nal > > Can you order now from Amazon? If so, you might like to order the DVD of the Manchester United 2009/10 FA cup campaign.. LOL! > > Seriously, I think this sort of stuff should be jumped on by international governments. Yeah, I know that the Republic of Ireland is currently in a state of quantum flux, meltdown, call it what you will. But all the same, Apple should be slammed, and all companies like them who produce this sort of issue is intolerable. > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 09:47, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Not the only one Gordon I promise you. It's even worse for us over here. For years we couldn't order stuff from Amazon.co.uk because we weren't in the UK. I'm referring to things like electronics, some books, kitchen/homeware etc. Anyway I'm digressing! *laughing* slap on the wrist for me.. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 12:02:27 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:02:27 +0000 Subject: torrent client Message-ID: hi can anyone recommend, a good torrent client for the mac osx platform? Transmission stating it has no windows upon launch Regards, WIll From abreier at kc.rr.com Fri Feb 25 12:19:02 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 06:19:02 -0600 Subject: Take control books References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10><166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com><679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net><34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie><8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net><579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Can you send info on the take control books. I would like to take advantage of the discount price for list members. I think I would be interested in getting the switching to a Mac one, but would like to review the list. Thanks so much. My best regards to you all, Andrea M. Breier Spread the laughter Share the cheer Let's be happy While we're here! NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "D?nal Fitzpatrick" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 5:48 AM Subject: Re: Take control books Ouch Gordon that hurt!!! :-) Couldn't agree more with you on the other comments though. On 25 Feb 2011, at 11:43, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi D?nal > > Can you order now from Amazon? If so, you might like to order the DVD of > the Manchester United 2009/10 FA cup campaign.. LOL! > > Seriously, I think this sort of stuff should be jumped on by international > governments. Yeah, I know that the Republic of Ireland is currently in a > state of quantum flux, meltdown, call it what you will. But all the same, > Apple should be slammed, and all companies like them who produce this sort > of issue is intolerable. > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 09:47, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Not the only one Gordon I promise you. It's even worse for us over here. > For years we couldn't order stuff from Amazon.co.uk because we weren't in > the UK. I'm referring to things like electronics, some books, > kitchen/homeware etc. Anyway I'm digressing! *laughing* slap on the > wrist for me.. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From khwicca at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 13:14:31 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:14:31 -0500 Subject: twitter clients. In-Reply-To: <9396ACA0-8F43-4910-9978-F6C954F0A175@gmail.com> References: <28D90F72-2E4C-4DF6-99BF-F2BB77726D59@computing.dcu.ie> <9396ACA0-8F43-4910-9978-F6C954F0A175@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks much! Kristeen On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:42 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Kristeen, > > It's not in the App Store. Here is their website: > http://sites.google.com/site/yorufukurou/home-en > You should be able to find the download link. :) > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 14:10:52 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:10:52 +0000 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> Hi On 25 Feb 2011, at 11:48, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Ouch Gordon that hurt!!! :-) Well, they weren't so brilliant against mighty little Crawley Town either were they? :) I don't want to get off topic or I'll get into trouble. But I can 't remember when I laughed more at a so-called premier league team. Anyway, back to the Mac. I will go and try this again because Lynne is being told this should work. But when we enter our email, the "Select State" button is greyed out, and unless it's populated with the state you cannot continue. This isn't the country selection, it's the state which, of course, does not apply to the UK and other non-US countries. This isn't the first time Apple have stuffed this sort of thing up. I signed up with them for another project a while ago and the same sort of utter confusion happened that time as well. I had to get one of their software people to sort it out. They had problems with the concept of not using a 2-letter state system. Gordon From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 14:13:03 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:13:03 +0000 Subject: torrent client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <705F0370-E0DF-49A1-9E28-993DBA931361@mac-access.net> William I only tried Transmission once or twice. But it's supposed to have no windows if I remember rightly. But there is a menu bar and when you open a site in the menu bar, Transmission has a window. I think you might have made the same slight error of judgement you made last week here. I could be wrong because i only tried it twice I think. But that's what I seem to remember. Gordon On 25 Feb 2011, at 12:02, william lomas wrote: hi can anyone recommend, a good torrent client for the mac osx platform? Transmission stating it has no windows upon launch Regards, WIll _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 14:21:03 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:21:03 +0000 Subject: New MBPs are not using SSD? Message-ID: <79C8964B-2459-4B59-96F4-052757C5B388@mac-access.net> Hello everyone, From what I've seen, the new MBPs seem really nice, but I was a little surprised that they are not using SSD by default? I thought this was going to be Apple's standard now after all the hype surrounding the SSD in the MBAs. I guess though that maybe they're not putting SSDs in the new MBPs because they don't seem to be able to store as much yet as traditional HDs. Thoughts anyone? Take care :) James From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Feb 25 14:24:04 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:24:04 -0600 Subject: torrent client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17E56D9C-254C-44AF-8502-16FC3FCEE458@softcon.com> Depending on what they do, a lot of programs exhibit this behavior. Largely, it's because until you tell the program to do something, there's no reason for it to present you with a whole set of options that may or may not apply to your particular situation. However, to answer your question. I use bittorrent, it works well with vo, and I've been using it for so long (at least 5 years) I don't know where I got it, but I'm sure a quick search on google will turn up a copy for your perusal. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Feb 25 14:24:35 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:24:35 +0000 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> Gordon, We won't talk about Crawley there's a good chap! Anyways, what link are you using to try and access? I'll use exactly the same one from here and see what happens. D On 25 Feb 2011, at 14:10, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 11:48, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Ouch Gordon that hurt!!! :-) > > Well, they weren't so brilliant against mighty little Crawley Town either were they? :) I don't want to get off topic or I'll get into trouble. But I can 't remember when I laughed more at a so-called premier league team. > > Anyway, back to the Mac. I will go and try this again because Lynne is being told this should work. But when we enter our email, the "Select State" button is greyed out, and unless it's populated with the state you cannot continue. This isn't the country selection, it's the state which, of course, does not apply to the UK and other non-US countries. > > This isn't the first time Apple have stuffed this sort of thing up. I signed up with them for another project a while ago and the same sort of utter confusion happened that time as well. I had to get one of their software people to sort it out. They had problems with the concept of not using a 2-letter state system. > > Gordon > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Feb 25 14:26:40 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:26:40 -0600 Subject: New MBPs are not using SSD? In-Reply-To: <79C8964B-2459-4B59-96F4-052757C5B388@mac-access.net> References: <79C8964B-2459-4B59-96F4-052757C5B388@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I'm really not sure the life expectancy of ssd drives is up there with traditional media just yet. That could very well be why apple hasn't defaulted to using them just yet. I suspect when they get better, they'll be added by default, though you can certainly use one if you wish. :) From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 14:26:57 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:26:57 +0000 Subject: torrent client In-Reply-To: <705F0370-E0DF-49A1-9E28-993DBA931361@mac-access.net> References: <705F0370-E0DF-49A1-9E28-993DBA931361@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thanks gordon. I can't even get the menu bar to appear and the only way at present, is to do a force quit. I am trying U-Torrent for now, again thanks for the help though, appreciated, it is a very strange issue On 25 Feb 2011, at 14:13, Gordon Smith wrote: > William > > I only tried Transmission once or twice. But it's supposed to have no windows if I remember rightly. But there is a menu bar and when you open a site in the menu bar, Transmission has a window. > > I think you might have made the same slight error of judgement you made last week here. I could be wrong because i only tried it twice I think. But that's what I seem to remember. > > Gordon > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 12:02, william lomas wrote: > > hi can anyone recommend, a good torrent client for the mac osx platform? > Transmission stating it has no windows upon launch > Regards, WIll > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 14:28:01 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:28:01 +0000 Subject: New MBPs are not using SSD? In-Reply-To: References: <79C8964B-2459-4B59-96F4-052757C5B388@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1A00CD3A-2884-4DBE-B6FD-1465622EA0F3@mac-access.net> As I suspected. Thanks Travis TC :) James On 25 Feb 2011, at 14:26, Travis Siegel wrote: > I'm really not sure the life expectancy of ssd drives is up there with traditional media just yet. That could very well be why apple hasn't defaulted to using them just yet. > I suspect when they get better, they'll be added by default, though you can certainly use one if you wish. :) > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Fri Feb 25 12:33:17 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:33:17 +0000 Subject: CUT AND COPY In-Reply-To: <4F02125C-0D44-4532-B979-933E9247CE06@mac-access.net> References: <349C57D0-B06C-4D97-BD18-5A486A1C3AEA@gmail.com> <087DFB2E-0501-4774-BDF8-CE5237A73C9D@mac-access.net> <4F02125C-0D44-4532-B979-933E9247CE06@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi All! OK some people like MoveAdict that does the job! Also you can get a apple script from here that takes the copy paste delete and if I understand it makes it all one move! You can get it here! http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:00, James AUSTIN wrote: >> hello Marcy and Kristeen, > > As well as copying and then deleting the copied folder in Finder, you can also accomplish this via the Command Line. Personally, I find this more efficient, but there is a considerable amount of typing involved. The benefit of the Command Line though is that moving folders can be done in one go. This is especially useful when moving a large numbero of folders. I.e.: > > mv -i interesting_folder.zip /Uses/~/Dropbox > > The "mv" command moves the file the dash after it followed by the letter "i" confirms that you want ot replace the folder if it already exists in Dropbox. > > Hope this helps > TC :) > J > On 25 Feb 2011, at 07:22, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> hello Marcy and Kristeen >> >> On 22 Feb 2011, at 12:31, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >> >> If you're talking about cut and copy folders and/or files in the finder, this can't be done, so you have to copy the folder/file you want, put them where you want to move them, paste them in, then go back to the original location and send the original to the trash with command-delete. >> >> Thank you for reminding me of this; I need to contact Lyn about this very issue; or at least, a variant of it. >> >> Lyn; I know I said I would do so. But life has been one major issue after another recently which is why we are so very very behind on email. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 14:54:22 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:54:22 +0100 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hi! The odd thing is that I went through with it without any issues. That's even more confusing, and pretty problematic. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Feb 25, 2011, at 3:24 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Gordon, > > We won't talk about Crawley there's a good chap! > > Anyways, what link are you using to try and access? I'll use exactly the same one from here and see what happens. > > D > On 25 Feb 2011, at 14:10, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi >> >> On 25 Feb 2011, at 11:48, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> Ouch Gordon that hurt!!! :-) >> >> Well, they weren't so brilliant against mighty little Crawley Town either were they? :) I don't want to get off topic or I'll get into trouble. But I can 't remember when I laughed more at a so-called premier league team. >> >> Anyway, back to the Mac. I will go and try this again because Lynne is being told this should work. But when we enter our email, the "Select State" button is greyed out, and unless it's populated with the state you cannot continue. This isn't the country selection, it's the state which, of course, does not apply to the UK and other non-US countries. >> >> This isn't the first time Apple have stuffed this sort of thing up. I signed up with them for another project a while ago and the same sort of utter confusion happened that time as well. I had to get one of their software people to sort it out. They had problems with the concept of not using a 2-letter state system. >> >> Gordon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Fri Feb 25 14:56:23 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:56:23 -0500 Subject: well, finally bought a Mac In-Reply-To: <9D0119DD-5871-4BE6-BAD2-3F509689B5BB@googlemail.com> References: <4d66e2eb.4c8de50a.2e77.002d@mx.google.com> <4E188883-06DD-49DD-9BCA-F298D684DC77@insightbb.com> <9D0119DD-5871-4BE6-BAD2-3F509689B5BB@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <792D2A31-140A-404C-A465-B1FBD500B394@insightbb.com> Hello, I looked back at some early messages and realize I got my mac in December. Now that I have the i phone i appreciate it even more. It sounds like the two will go together well. i also have a lot to learn and I am having fun doing it. Bill 'Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Fri Feb 25 15:10:39 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:10:39 -0500 Subject: downloading apps on the I phone Message-ID: <53138C2C-9599-4689-BB10-FBDF08FEFB86@insightbb.com> Hello, I have been told about downloading apps for the i Phone. I have two questions. first of all, would I be better off to download them on the Mac computer and transfer them to the i Phone or straight to the I Phone? second, I was told in order to download apps to the I phone from I Tunes you first have to register with I Tunes. I tried this and was having problems with voice over. does anyone have some suggestions on how to do this? I realize if i register to I tunes with the I phone then i could take it to the store and have someone there to give me some help. if I did that then could I use the same information to sign on my computer and download from there? well, there were more than two questions. Thank you for all your help in advance. this list has been a very valuable resource for me. I want to thank everyone who makes it possible. Bill Deatherage From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Feb 25 15:17:32 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:17:32 -0600 Subject: CUT AND COPY In-Reply-To: References: <349C57D0-B06C-4D97-BD18-5A486A1C3AEA@gmail.com> <087DFB2E-0501-4774-BDF8-CE5237A73C9D@mac-access.net> <4F02125C-0D44-4532-B979-933E9247CE06@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7BE2894D-6C2A-4FF2-A161-FEFB2529A55E@softcon.com> On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Colin M wrote: > Hi All! > OK some people like MoveAdict that does the job! > Also you can get a apple script from here that takes the copy paste > delete and if I understand it makes it all one move! > You can get it here! > http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ Also, for those who haven't liked the previous options, you can check http://www.softcon.com/mac/ and you'lll find some apple scripts, one of which does a move for you, of files or folders, without the need to copy/paste/return/delete. I've had the script posted for just about 5 years now, so anyone is free to use it for whatever reason they like. Hope this helps. From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 15:59:14 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:59:14 -0500 Subject: downloading apps on the I phone In-Reply-To: <53138C2C-9599-4689-BB10-FBDF08FEFB86@insightbb.com> References: <53138C2C-9599-4689-BB10-FBDF08FEFB86@insightbb.com> Message-ID: In general I find it faster to download apps on the computer and transfer them to the iPhone. All you need to do is set up an account with the iTunes store; once that's done, you can set it up on your iPhone as well. Jane On Feb 25, 2011, at 10:10 AM, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I have been told about downloading apps for the i Phone. I have two questions. first of all, would I be better off to download them on the Mac computer and transfer them to the i Phone or straight to the I Phone? second, I was told in order to download apps to the I phone from I Tunes you first have to register with I Tunes. I tried this and was having problems with voice over. does anyone have some suggestions on how to do this? I realize if i register to I tunes with the I phone then i could take it to the store and have someone there to give me some help. if I did that then could I use the same information to sign on my computer and download from there? > well, there were more than two questions. Thank you for all your help in advance. this list has been a very valuable resource for me. I want to thank everyone who makes it possible. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 16:32:58 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:32:58 -0500 Subject: An awesome audiobook app in mac app store Message-ID: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> Hi, I just wanted to let everybody know that there's an awesome, accessible app in the mac app store. It's called audiobook binder, it does essentially the same things as audiobook builder does, but it's free, and seems to convert a lot faster. Hope this is of some interest to people. Courtney From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 16:43:08 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:43:08 -0500 Subject: An awesome audiobook app in mac app store In-Reply-To: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> References: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> Message-ID: <59CD28C5-45FC-4B35-8E2A-6337171D8301@gmail.com> You mean the App Store you'll find inthe dock. or the iTunes store? Jane On Feb 25, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I just wanted to let everybody know that there's an awesome, accessible app in the mac app store. It's called audiobook binder, it does essentially the same things as audiobook builder does, but it's free, and seems to convert a lot faster. Hope this is of some interest to people. > Courtney > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 16:46:25 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:46:25 -0500 Subject: An awesome audiobook app in mac app store In-Reply-To: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> References: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6AA95712-7D7F-4A3F-8462-60ACD148D1F9@gmail.com> Here's what I get when I try to purchase it. (null) can?t be installed on this computer. Jane On Feb 25, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I just wanted to let everybody know that there's an awesome, accessible app in the mac app store. It's called audiobook binder, it does essentially the same things as audiobook builder does, but it's free, and seems to convert a lot faster. Hope this is of some interest to people. > Courtney > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Feb 25 17:19:15 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:19:15 +0000 Subject: An awesome audiobook app in mac app store In-Reply-To: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> References: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6490E6DE-2FF8-41E6-ABAF-F94F69C7F1FE@computing.dcu.ie> Just in case anyone wants to take a look here's a direct link: http://itunes.apple.com/ie/app/audiobook-binder/id413969927?mt=12 On 25 Feb 2011, at 16:32, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I just wanted to let everybody know that there's an awesome, accessible app in the mac app store. It's called audiobook binder, it does essentially the same things as audiobook builder does, but it's free, and seems to convert a lot faster. Hope this is of some interest to people. > Courtney > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 17:40:00 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:40:00 +0000 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <2B96C5CB-B830-41D3-BFDC-C45C8B23311B@mac-access.net> Hello D?nal On 25 Feb 2011, at 14:24, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: ? We won't talk about Crawley there's a good chap! Why on earthy you men get so worked up about people kicking a ball around a field with a few white lines on it and a goal at each end I will never understand! But you're right; let's not discuss that here. :) ? Anyways, what link are you using to try and access? I'll use exactly the same one from here and see what happens. I just sent you the link privately. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 17:43:03 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:43:03 +0000 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> Hello Nic On 25 Feb 2011, at 14:54, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: ? The odd thing is that I went through with it without any issues. That's even more confusing, and pretty problematic. We had a reply from their so-called developer support. We're supposed to call them on the phone. Honestly; you pay to help them, then they expect you to pay to habve them put right their own mistakes. Forget it! I may be just a stupid dumb female; but I'm not that dumb! Lynne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Feb 25 17:45:44 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:45:44 +0000 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <2B96C5CB-B830-41D3-BFDC-C45C8B23311B@mac-access.net> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <2B96C5CB-B830-41D3-BFDC-C45C8B23311B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6D753FA9-428E-4E74-80A5-6D7A8CD2C280@computing.dcu.ie> Going through the process now Lynne. It's not pretty is it? I had to click the first continue link, but subsequent ones seem to be behaving properly with VO. On 25 Feb 2011, at 17:40, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello D?nal > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 14:24, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > ? We won't talk about Crawley there's a good chap! > > Why on earthy you men get so worked up about people kicking a ball around a field with a few white lines on it and a goal at each end I will never understand! But you're right; let's not discuss that here. :) > > ? Anyways, what link are you using to try and access? I'll use exactly the same one from here and see what happens. > > I just sent you the link privately. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 17:48:48 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:48:48 +0000 Subject: An awesome audiobook app in mac app store In-Reply-To: <6490E6DE-2FF8-41E6-ABAF-F94F69C7F1FE@computing.dcu.ie> References: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> <6490E6DE-2FF8-41E6-ABAF-F94F69C7F1FE@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello This tool is not the same as Audiobook Builder at all, so let's not confuse the two. It doesn't do nearly as much as the former does from what I understand. It only converts a limited range of material, and yes, it converts faster but that's because it doesn't resample or recode. So no, don't get carried away by thinking you got the same thing for nothing. There is an old saying ... you gets what you pays for. Yes, I don't deny for one moment there are some excellent freeware apps out there for the Mac and yes, just to contradict what I said above, sometimes it's perfectly true that the free ones are better than the paid once. But not, from what I have seen, in this case. Gordon On 25 Feb 2011, at 17:19, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Just in case anyone wants to take a look here's a direct link: http://itunes.apple.com/ie/app/audiobook-binder/id413969927?mt=12 On 25 Feb 2011, at 16:32, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I just wanted to let everybody know that there's an awesome, accessible app in the mac app store. It's called audiobook binder, it does essentially the same things as audiobook builder does, but it's free, and seems to convert a lot faster. Hope this is of some interest to people. > Courtney > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 18:08:52 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:08:52 +0100 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> Hello Lynne, I absolutely agree with you on that front. I personally think it is absolutely preposterous that you have to spend money calling on support, then getting them to fix it for you. That should not be the case and hopefully will be looked into. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 14:54, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > ? The odd thing is that I went through with it without any issues. That's even more confusing, and pretty problematic. > > We had a reply from their so-called developer support. We're supposed to call them on the phone. Honestly; you pay to help them, then they expect you to pay to habve them put right their own mistakes. > > Forget it! I may be just a stupid dumb female; but I'm not that dumb! > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From orin8722 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 18:17:13 2011 From: orin8722 at gmail.com (Orin) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:17:13 -0500 Subject: Help with Partition In-Reply-To: <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> Message-ID: <050BC8DB-B41F-45F2-A4EC-0AE9B5DE4FE8@gmail.com> Hi all, Basically, I messed up a partition I created on the main disc, it shrunk my disc and I want to bring it back to where it was at around 150 GB. The first time I did it it failed, but the second time I decided to make the partition size bigger than it should have, costing disc space. Anyway to get the space back that the partition shrunk? Thanks. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 18:21:00 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:21:00 +0000 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> Message-ID: <977837C7-11E6-4C27-AC9B-34399845BBBE@mac-access.net> Hello Nic On 25 Feb 2011, at 18:08, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: ? I absolutely agree with you on that front. I personally think it is absolutely preposterous that you have to spend money calling on support, then getting them to fix it for you. That should not be the case and hopefully will be looked into. Apple seems to be very much full of their own self-importance when it comes to the financial side of their operations. They really don't treat the overseas consumer very well all things considered. They want our money; even come begging for it by sending stupid pointless E-Mails about things which aren't even that new. Apple would be better served, in my opinion, trying to put right the technical blunders they make regularly with regards their web content. They promote accessibility and yes, I wouldn't argue for a second that their software is generally excellent in terms of accessibility. The obvious exception to the rule here is iWeb. They've had years, but as far as I can tell they haven't even begun to make the thing accessible. yes, there are some other products which will work quite well. But they don't do what iWeb does and, as such, they preclude a growing group of their customer base from using the product. I could be wrong; but it looks to me as though quite a bit of their web content is developed using iWeb. Maybe that explains the lack of thought that goes into it sometimes. I wish I could talk about the one big issue here which stands out for me. But I can not do so because it would involve revealing some information which Gordon signed up not to reveal and, even though it isn't current any longer, it still counts. Lynne, in rant mode. From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 18:22:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:22:12 +0000 Subject: Help with Partition In-Reply-To: <050BC8DB-B41F-45F2-A4EC-0AE9B5DE4FE8@gmail.com> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <050BC8DB-B41F-45F2-A4EC-0AE9B5DE4FE8@gmail.com> Message-ID: How are you doing this? Are you using Boot Camp? Lynne On 25 Feb 2011, at 18:17, Orin wrote: Hi all, Basically, I messed up a partition I created on the main disc, it shrunk my disc and I want to bring it back to where it was at around 150 GB. The first time I did it it failed, but the second time I decided to make the partition size bigger than it should have, costing disc space. Anyway to get the space back that the partition shrunk? Thanks. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From orin8722 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 18:27:09 2011 From: orin8722 at gmail.com (Orin) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:27:09 -0500 Subject: Help with Partition In-Reply-To: References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <050BC8DB-B41F-45F2-A4EC-0AE9B5DE4FE8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <27D2EBA3-F1AD-412A-95D1-CBB72B4CEA1E@gmail.com> No. Disc Utility. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > How are you doing this? Are you using Boot Camp? > > Lynne > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 18:17, Orin wrote: > > Hi all, > > Basically, I messed up a partition I created on the main disc, it shrunk my disc and I want to bring it back to where it was at around 150 GB. The first time I did it it failed, but the second time I decided to make the partition size bigger than it should have, costing disc space. Anyway to get the space back that the partition shrunk? > > Thanks. > > > > Orin > orin8722 at gmail.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks > Skype: orin1112 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 19:00:35 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:00:35 +0000 Subject: Mac OSX Server; Got it Sorted Message-ID: <56D15D03-37A1-45F4-86EF-84A070C9971F@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Hello everybody OK, I just finally figured out why the heck I couldn't get this developer thing to work. The country code we always use is +44. But on this site, the "+" character didn't work. I knew not to put dashes in; but I only noticed the "+" character by accident. So now Gordon is a registered developer and has enrolled. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Feb 25 19:06:33 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:06:33 +0000 Subject: Help with Partition In-Reply-To: <27D2EBA3-F1AD-412A-95D1-CBB72B4CEA1E@gmail.com> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <050BC8DB-B41F-45F2-A4EC-0AE9B5DE4FE8@gmail.com> <27D2EBA3-F1AD-412A-95D1-CBB72B4CEA1E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello On 25 Feb 2011, at 18:27, Orin wrote: No. Disc Utility. I wasn't aware that you could resize using Disk Utility. Lynne From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 19:28:58 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:28:58 -0500 Subject: An awesome audiobook app in mac app store In-Reply-To: <59CD28C5-45FC-4B35-8E2A-6337171D8301@gmail.com> References: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> <59CD28C5-45FC-4B35-8E2A-6337171D8301@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jane, I mean the apps store you find in the dock, where you can buy apps for your mac. HTH, Courtney On Feb 25, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Jane wrote: > You mean the App Store you'll find inthe dock. or the iTunes store? > > Jane > > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I just wanted to let everybody know that there's an awesome, accessible app in the mac app store. It's called audiobook binder, it does essentially the same things as audiobook builder does, but it's free, and seems to convert a lot faster. Hope this is of some interest to people. >> Courtney >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Feb 25 19:38:43 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:38:43 -1000 Subject: An awesome audiobook app in mac app store In-Reply-To: References: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> <6490E6DE-2FF8-41E6-ABAF-F94F69C7F1FE@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <9A682DCC-E1FA-4B76-8DEB-F7D089074EF2@mac.com> Hi, You can also get Audiobook Binder directly from the developer's web page: http://bluezbox.com/audiobookbinder.html For those with geekier interests, it can also be run from a command line interface. These software products were posted on list at the end of last September. To save you from searching the archive, I'll paste in excerpts of the relevant post: A few other (freeware) programs that are similar to Audio Bookbuilder are: ? Audio Bookbinder http://bluezbox.com/audiobookbinder.html ? Audiobook Maker http://audiobookmaker.sourceforge.net/ ? Audiobook Builder is $9.95 from Splasm software. You can read about it here, too: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ipod_itunes/audiobookbuilder.html On the Windows side (for those still converting to the Mac), there's the program Chapter and Verse, with a podcast about using it at: http://blind-side.net/node/10 (Note, the blind-side web site domain seems to have expired at the end of January, so I'll just give the direct link to Chapter and Verse, which is Windows only): * Chapter and Verse http://lodensoftware.com/chapter-and-verse/ Cheers, Esther On Feb 25, 2011, at 07:48, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello > > This tool is not the same as Audiobook Builder at all, so let's not confuse the two. It doesn't do nearly as much as the former does from what I understand. It only converts a limited range of material, and yes, it converts faster but that's because it doesn't resample or recode. > > So no, don't get carried away by thinking you got the same thing for nothing. There is an old saying ... you gets what you pays for. Yes, I don't deny for one moment there are some excellent freeware apps out there for the Mac and yes, just to contradict what I said above, sometimes it's perfectly true that the free ones are better than the paid once. But not, from what I have seen, in this case. > > Gordon > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 17:19, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Just in case anyone wants to take a look here's a direct link: > > http://itunes.apple.com/ie/app/audiobook-binder/id413969927?mt=12 > On 25 Feb 2011, at 16:32, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I just wanted to let everybody know that there's an awesome, accessible app in the mac app store. It's called audiobook binder, it does essentially the same things as audiobook builder does, but it's free, and seems to convert a lot faster. Hope this is of some interest to people. >> Courtney From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 19:40:24 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:40:24 +0100 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <977837C7-11E6-4C27-AC9B-34399845BBBE@mac-access.net> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <977837C7-11E6-4C27-AC9B-34399845BBBE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7ED5A7C6-892B-4DC1-8F48-81F67001FA0B@gmail.com> Hello Lynne, Firstly, I'm glad that you guys managed to get Gordon enrolled. I hope he enjoys it. :) Secondly, I agree again with you. There are a lot of things which Apple doesn't consider when it comes to non-US-based customers, or even consumers in general. Not just on the web, but in its devices. I won't go into that, because then I'll end up ranting like a crazy man, so I'll stop here. :) iWeb still hasn't seen any changes. In fact, I don't even think it's been updated recently which is a shame. Although I like writing my code by hand, it's still nice to use tools to evaluate it or add suggestions to it. Anyway, yeah, I said I'd stop. *ends ranting* Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Feb 25, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 18:08, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > ? I absolutely agree with you on that front. I personally think it is absolutely preposterous that you have to spend money calling on support, then getting them to fix it for you. That should not be the case and hopefully will be looked into. > > Apple seems to be very much full of their own self-importance when it comes to the financial side of their operations. They really don't treat the overseas consumer very well all things considered. > > They want our money; even come begging for it by sending stupid pointless E-Mails about things which aren't even that new. > > Apple would be better served, in my opinion, trying to put right the technical blunders they make regularly with regards their web content. They promote accessibility and yes, I wouldn't argue for a second that their software is generally excellent in terms of accessibility. > > The obvious exception to the rule here is iWeb. They've had years, but as far as I can tell they haven't even begun to make the thing accessible. yes, there are some other products which will work quite well. But they don't do what iWeb does and, as such, they preclude a growing group of their customer base from using the product. > > I could be wrong; but it looks to me as though quite a bit of their web content is developed using iWeb. Maybe that explains the lack of thought that goes into it sometimes. > > I wish I could talk about the one big issue here which stands out for me. But I can not do so because it would involve revealing some information which Gordon signed up not to reveal and, even though it isn't current any longer, it still counts. > > Lynne, in rant mode. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 19:41:20 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:41:20 -0500 Subject: An awesome audiobook app in mac app store In-Reply-To: <6490E6DE-2FF8-41E6-ABAF-F94F69C7F1FE@computing.dcu.ie> References: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> <6490E6DE-2FF8-41E6-ABAF-F94F69C7F1FE@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: And here's a link to a direct download from the web site if the App Store link won't let you get it. 3.4Mb If that doesn't work for some reaso, click here: http://bluezbox.com/audiobookbinder.html and click on this: dlbox.png image Jane On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:19 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Just in case anyone wants to take a look here's a direct link: > > http://itunes.apple.com/ie/app/audiobook-binder/id413969927?mt=12 > On 25 Feb 2011, at 16:32, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I just wanted to let everybody know that there's an awesome, accessible app in the mac app store. It's called audiobook binder, it does essentially the same things as audiobook builder does, but it's free, and seems to convert a lot faster. Hope this is of some interest to people. >> Courtney >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Fri Feb 25 20:09:06 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:09:06 -0500 Subject: App suggestions for chicksdigmacs.net Message-ID: <6E678D25-6659-4DF4-A4F3-B685E34E5C28@chicksdigmacs.net> Hi all, As some of you may aware, I have a site called chicksdigmacs.net. The design is in its early stages of development, but there is a lot of stuff to see on there even so. My goal is to have a site kind of like jfwlite.com used to be before Debby passed away. Only, I want a Mac equivalent. iOS stuff is up here as well, though right now I only have jb-related stuff. Applevis.com has non-jailbreak stuff covered pretty well, so I think all I'll need to do is link to them. If you guys feel there's any non-jb material I should be putting up here, I welcome your input. Most notable to Mac users is my useful Mac apps section. Here I have put all the useful and accessible Mac apps I've found. But I can only go so far on my own. That's where you guys come in. I have found this list to be a valuable resource in my Mac and iOS endeavors, so I'm really counting on you guys. I'm looking for recommendations to add to my downloadable Mac apps collection. Free and paid apps are welcome. Please email me on or off-list with your app suggestions, and I will add them to my site if I feel they will be of use to the Blind Mac community. To clarify, I am uploading dmg's and .app files to my site so that all useful Mac apps can be downloaded in one place. Regards, Rose From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 20:13:13 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:13:13 -0800 Subject: Help with Partition In-Reply-To: References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <050BC8DB-B41F-45F2-A4EC-0AE9B5DE4FE8@gmail.com> <27D2EBA3-F1AD-412A-95D1-CBB72B4CEA1E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1C9B6EF0-96A9-4036-AE87-643D5CEA1A6B@gmail.com> You can't. It says that the bootcamp partition cannot be modified. I'm redoing it anyway when I get the time and energy but as of now I'm not finding time, need, or energy lol! take care all Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 18:27, Orin wrote: > > No. Disc Utility. > > I wasn't aware that you could resize using Disk Utility. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 20:14:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:14:56 -0800 Subject: torrent client In-Reply-To: <17E56D9C-254C-44AF-8502-16FC3FCEE458@softcon.com> References: <17E56D9C-254C-44AF-8502-16FC3FCEE458@softcon.com> Message-ID: <8A2E4529-F2A2-47BD-84F8-3CF6A3AA7E84@gmail.com> I use utorrent. I think that's how you spell it. it is in my opinion one of the smallest yet feature Rich clients out there for mac osx. Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Depending on what they do, a lot of programs exhibit this behavior. Largely, it's because until you tell the program to do something, there's no reason for it to present you with a whole set of options that may or may not apply to your particular situation. > However, to answer your question. > I use bittorrent, it works well with vo, and I've been using it for so long (at least 5 years) I don't know where I got it, but I'm sure a quick search on google will turn up a copy for your perusal. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 21:06:29 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:06:29 -0600 Subject: Re-Installing VoiceOver components Message-ID: is there a way to re-install Mac OS X VoiceOver components? MacBook Pro hasn't had VO since last night. no synthesizer. Sent from my iPhone From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 21:10:30 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:30 -0800 Subject: Re-Installing VoiceOver components In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <407C14BE-2DD3-4268-B717-766F1905297F@gmail.com> Nope. you need to reinstall the whole os but try hitting cmd vo f8 first then escape when the trainer comes up. if not do a hard reboot. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > is there a way to re-install Mac OS X VoiceOver components? MacBook Pro hasn't had VO since last night. no synthesizer. > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 21:12:10 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:12:10 -0800 Subject: Re-Installing VoiceOver components In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A03B775-96CA-443F-BCBE-9A0AD8F16EB4@gmail.com> Actually I jsut got this off of twitter. You can extract the contents of VoiceOver from your Leopard DVD with Pacifist: http://www.charlessoft.com/Pacifist.dmg I've never used this so good luck. and let us know if it works. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > is there a way to re-install Mac OS X VoiceOver components? MacBook Pro hasn't had VO since last night. no synthesizer. > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Fri Feb 25 22:25:02 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:25:02 -0500 Subject: Re-Installing VoiceOver components In-Reply-To: <0A03B775-96CA-443F-BCBE-9A0AD8F16EB4@gmail.com> References: <0A03B775-96CA-443F-BCBE-9A0AD8F16EB4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1AE54F90-0077-4CB9-A6C2-3E237A316FFF@chicksdigmacs.net> I may have seen the same solution which you speak of. It is incomplete, as the person who suggested Pacifist is unable to give me the location of Voiceover components. I've poked around, but it seems not enough of the dvd is revealed to find them. At any rate, the alleged Pacifist solution is not the only one. Kevin, The easiest way to fix your problem may be to login as root. If speech is only affecting your user account, root should have full VO access to your system. Two questions for you. Does your login screen speak, or has everything gone altogether? Also, are you able to boot into your SL DVD and get VO to speak? Common symptoms you will see if VO problems are only affecting one account instead of the entire system are that you will have speech at the login screen, and you will not be able to launch VO from the dvd. You can set a root password by launching the terminal app on the dvd. If you have speech on the dvd, it may just be a matter of replacing one or two files. I don't know their names off the top of my head, but I can look. If you don't have speech on the dvd, your problem is harder to fix but not impossible. You'll need to set up a root password via an SSH client or by getting sighted help and doing this through system preferences. To enable your root password via the terminal, type sudo passwd root. You will be prompted to type in a new password and confirm it. Once your root password is set, using any of these three methods, you can login as root. You should have speech with Voiceover. You can make any changes to your user account from this login or create a new account entirely. This new account will have fresh VO settings. Feel free to bug me off-list or via other means if you have any more questions. If you remember, I experienced the same problem. Rose On Feb 25, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually I jsut got this off of twitter. > > You can extract the contents of VoiceOver from your Leopard DVD with Pacifist: http://www.charlessoft.com/Pacifist.dmg > > > I've never used this so good luck. and let us know if it works. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> is there a way to re-install Mac OS X VoiceOver components? MacBook Pro hasn't had VO since last night. no synthesizer. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Feb 25 23:02:22 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:02:22 +0000 Subject: Partitioning my hard disk Message-ID: <8F7F0AEF-712E-4F0D-97CC-5403CB472885@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I am contemplating signing up for a developer account to access and beta test Lion. My iMac has a 320 GB hard disk of which about 170 GB is free so I would like to divide this into two partitions one for Snow Leopard and the other for Lion. How do I go about doing that? When I have done that will both partitions appear in finder as separate disks? If so I would use Super Duper! to replicate my current Snow Leopard installation and then overlay that with Lion. WOuld that work and thereby allow me to run all existing applications in Lion, assuming they still work in the Lion environment? I have an external hard drive on which I run time machine and also use for SuperDuper!backups. I would disable time machine in the Lion partition and only use the external hard drive for Snow Leopard. Does this all seem feasible? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 23:14:30 2011 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria from Australia) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:14:30 +1100 Subject: "Readability" in Safari [was Re: Web Pages In Mobile iOS browsers] In-Reply-To: <9923F6FF-F252-4BF7-B1B7-5A1A17E84911@mac.com> References: <227F75EF-4A38-48F3-AB72-92CB8C4E8B38@mac-access.net> <0A6412B5-009C-49BC-9B91-988B6CE26B89@mac.com> <4D663A08.1040609@gmail.com> <52337778E9EB4C6C9B7884D1179346E6@andrea78cdd59a> <9923F6FF-F252-4BF7-B1B7-5A1A17E84911@mac.com> Message-ID: <4D6837D6.8010605@gmail.com> hi. does anyone have instructions using fire fox? i have an app that will allow me to sink firefox bookmarks to my iPhone. thanks Maria and Karly from Australia Friendship flourishes at the fountain of forgiveness. William A. Ward twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book & email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com please check out www.powerradio104.com PROUD MEMBER and support volunteer for TAFN www.tafn.org.uk my groups BlindSightedChat-subscribe at yahoogroups.com http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindsightedchat shelter-from-the-storm-subscribe at yahoogroups.com On 25/02/2011 11:08 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Andrea, > > On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:54, Andrea Breier wrote: > >> I am confused. If we set this up in windows, how can it be accessed while on the iphone? Is this something that can be used from both a windows platform as well as our iPhones. > > I may be mistaken about this, but my understanding is that you can Sync your bookmarks to your iPhone if you are on a Mac using Safari, and also if you are on a Windows PC and you sync your bookmarks from either Safari for Windows or Internet Explorer. At least, that is what is stated in the Apple Knowledge Base Document, "iOS: How to transfer or sync content to your computer": > http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1296 > This document describes syncing various items between an iDevice and a computer (in both directions). Under Bookmarks it says: > > You can sync bookmarks between your computer and your device. When syncing is enabled, all bookmarks will sync. You can sync bookmarks with the following applications: > > ? Safari (Mac OS X 10.4.11 or later) > ? Safari for Windows (Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7) > ? Microsoft Internet Explorer > Note: Microsoft Internet Explorer refers to bookmarks as Favorites. > > > Since someone commented on the AppleVis.com site that the Instapaper web bookmarklet, which is a javascript bookmarklet similar to the Readability bookmarklet, can be saved as a bookmark (aka "Favorite") under Internet Explorer by tabbing to the bookmarklet and using a context menu item to "Add to Favorites", I assumed this recipe could also be used by a Windows user who wanted to save the "Readability" bookmarklet to his or her favorites in Internet Explorer. Then, assuming that you use Internet Explorer as your browser, and you choose to sync its bookmarks (or "favorites") to your iPhone, this bookmarklet would transfer over to the bookmarks under Safari on your iPhone. > > It is possible to save the "Readability" bookmarklet to your bookmarks bar working entirely on your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, but the steps are more complicated, and are not helped by the fact that I'd have to explain how to negotiate a web page that is written in Spanish to users who likely do not speak or understand that language. > > To answer your question: yes, the "Readability" bookmarklet is something that can be used both in a browser on your computer (which could be on a Windows platform) as well as on the iPhone. When applied, it basically reformats web pages that contain articles so that extraneous web items outside of the article, such as advertising images and links, and other such items that are not relevant to reading the article, are eliminated from the reformatted page. The only links on the page are three that are added at the beginning (to get back to the original page format, print the reformatted paged, and email the page (haven't tried this -- could be a link), plus any links that were actually within the original article. That means that your screen reader doesn't have to negotiate countless web elements that are irrelevant to the content you want to read, and it's even more of a bonus on the iPhone, since the available web rotor gesture settings are less sophisticated than what' s available to you on your computer, where you might execute a "Find", for example. > > So there's a two-fold reason for posting about the "Readability Bookmarklet": (1) it makes reading text content on the web and navigating to the key text much easier and (2) if you sync your bookmarks to your iDevice, which is a general feature that is available fro Safari on the Mac, and also on the Windows PC side if you sync bookmarks from Safari for Windows or Favorites from Internet Explorer, you can also put a "Readability" bookmarklet on your iDevice that simplifies text reading and navigation in your Safari web browser on the iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. Also, for low vision users, or just parents or "Seniors" who are not visually impaired, but would prefer to use larger fonts, the "Readability" bookmarklet gives you this, and optionally can be set up to give a high contrast background. (My father likes the bigger fonts.) > > On regular desktop browsers, the "Readability" feature can be implemented as either a bookmarklet or a browser extension. I gave the links to the Safari and Firefox Readability browser extensions in my reply post to Maria. Browser extensions add buttons to the browser toolbar. While I can open my Safari toolbar, and navigate to buttons added by the "Readability" Safari extension and press them with VO-Space, it's much handier to simply use the Bookmarks Bar shortcuts and press (for example) Command-1 to apply the bookmarklet. Also, as bookmarks, the bookmarklet can be synced to your Safari bookmarks on an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad. The bookmarklet is really, really handy on an iPad, where you have set "Always Show Bookmarks Bar" to "on" in your Settings> Safari, because it's so easy to access it. > > HTH, and that I haven't gone on too long. > > Cheers, > > Esther > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 23:22:09 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:22:09 -0800 Subject: Partitioning my hard disk In-Reply-To: <8F7F0AEF-712E-4F0D-97CC-5403CB472885@hopewell.org.uk> References: <8F7F0AEF-712E-4F0D-97CC-5403CB472885@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <82E8B91F-2CBA-4DFA-ACDF-3453B361E850@gmail.com> yeah it does actually. In disk utility go to your main disk and it will say something like disk name, space and a bunch of numbers. Now stop interacting with the table and go to the partition tab and go to add. set the second partition after you name it something you can remember set the format to os extended journaled I think thats what it is called and then allocate your space by typing it in the field. and click add. Good luck. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I am contemplating signing up for a developer account to access and beta test Lion. My iMac has a 320 GB hard disk of which about 170 GB is free so I would like to divide this into two partitions one for Snow Leopard and the other for Lion. How do I go about doing that? > > When I have done that will both partitions appear in finder as separate disks? If so I would use Super Duper! to replicate my current Snow Leopard installation and then overlay that with Lion. WOuld that work and thereby allow me to run all existing applications in Lion, assuming they still work in the Lion environment? > > I have an external hard drive on which I run time machine and also use for SuperDuper!backups. I would disable time machine in the Lion partition and only use the external hard drive for Snow Leopard. > > Does this all seem feasible? > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 23:45:47 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:45:47 -0500 Subject: New MBPs are not using SSD? In-Reply-To: <79C8964B-2459-4B59-96F4-052757C5B388@mac-access.net> References: <79C8964B-2459-4B59-96F4-052757C5B388@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4d683f29.1d4de50a.53c1.2280@mx.google.com> That was a rumor. Rumors are not always correct. At 09:21 AM 2/25/2011, you wrote: >Hello everyone, > > From what I've seen, the new MBPs seem really nice, but I was a > little surprised that they are not using SSD by default? I thought > this was going to be Apple's standard now after all the hype > surrounding the SSD in the MBAs. I guess though that maybe they're > not putting SSDs in the new MBPs because they don't seem to be able > to store as much yet as traditional HDs. >Thoughts anyone? >Take care :) >James >_______________________________________________ > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 26 00:05:41 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:05:41 -0600 Subject: Partitioning my hard disk In-Reply-To: <8F7F0AEF-712E-4F0D-97CC-5403CB472885@hopewell.org.uk> References: <8F7F0AEF-712E-4F0D-97CC-5403CB472885@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: There's no need to install an osx version on the second partition, as your developer edition of lion will install just fine on the partition, and honestly, it usually is better to install beta os copies to a new partition. This is one reason I have 5 partitions on one of my external hds, just for this purpose. I would rotate between all the external partitions with each release of the os, that way I could return to an older release if things were too screwed up for me to use the new release when it got installed. Of course, one partition is fine too, I'm just paranoid. :) But, in any case, you can always use bootcamp to resize your partition if you don't have anything else that can do it for you. Just don't continue with the bootcamp install of windows after you do the disk repartitioning step, that's how I initially repartitioned my disks, but since then I've started over with a fresh blank disk, although I no longer have multiple copies of various versions of leopard on my machine, since I no longer have a developer account, on account of not having enough ram to run snowleopard (something which I'm hoping to fix real soon. I've just purchased 1gb o ram, and as soon as it arrives will install, and then install snowleopard and have the latest and gretest (again) :) From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 02:10:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:10:08 -0800 Subject: New MBPs are not using SSD? In-Reply-To: <4d683f29.1d4de50a.53c1.2280@mx.google.com> References: <79C8964B-2459-4B59-96F4-052757C5B388@mac-access.net> <4d683f29.1d4de50a.53c1.2280@mx.google.com> Message-ID: but if they do use ssds I can't remember how big the biggest hd you can install onthat thing is Take care got to go take care of some stuff before the wind blos it away. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > That was a rumor. > Rumors are not always correct. > > At 09:21 AM 2/25/2011, you wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> From what I've seen, the new MBPs seem really nice, but I was a little surprised that they are not using SSD by default? I thought this was going to be Apple's standard now after all the hype surrounding the SSD in the MBAs. I guess though that maybe they're not putting SSDs in the new MBPs because they don't seem to be able to store as much yet as traditional HDs. >> Thoughts anyone? >> Take care :) >> James >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 02:17:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:17:27 -0800 Subject: splitting an aip file. How? Message-ID: Hello all. I have an aip file and its queue file. I opened all of them up in cog and it shows as split but how can I really split these in to some format? amadeus cannot open monkey files or what ever they are called. Thanks. From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Feb 26 04:05:10 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 04:05:10 +0000 Subject: i-phone firmware Message-ID: <4d687b2b.813ee30a.1c37.5118@mx.google.com> how often does i-phone firmware come out? i check fairly regularly and voiceover often says i am using the latest version. From billd at insightbb.com Sat Feb 26 04:07:21 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:07:21 -0500 Subject: another question on using I Tunes Message-ID: <433A9C42-4614-4248-9A35-3EC4E364BC9E@insightbb.com> Hello, if i regester I tunes on my computer then do i also have to regester it on the I Phone? or can i regester it on one and just sign on both.\ I am new to i tunes and the I phone both. I started with the Mac in December and started learning about it and just started with the I phone last Saturday. Bill Deatherage From khwicca at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 04:18:50 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:18:50 -0500 Subject: Address Book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How can I add an E-mail address to the address book? I'm not sure how to click on something if I need to do that. Hitting enter and other things I have tried haven't gotten it. Thanks. Kristeen From billd at insightbb.com Sat Feb 26 04:35:50 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:35:50 -0500 Subject: using Voice over to regester I tunes Message-ID: hello, I was in i tunes and went down to regrester this computer. I was going through the information and I was using the Vo keys and the wright arrow to go through the information. After I got through typing in my e-mail address and date of birth I went to the continue button. I couldn't get past there. I went back and got a message saying something about not a valid E-mail address. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to regrester the computer with I tunes using voice over? Thank you in advance for your help. Bill Deatherage From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 04:39:22 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:39:22 -0800 Subject: i-phone firmware In-Reply-To: <4d687b2b.813ee30a.1c37.5118@mx.google.com> References: <4d687b2b.813ee30a.1c37.5118@mx.google.com> Message-ID: probably every 3 or 4 months. and you really don't need to check as itunes will let you know when the phone has an update. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 8:05 PM, michael weaver wrote: > how often does i-phone firmware come out? > i check fairly regularly and voiceover often says i am using the latest version. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 05:30:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:30:56 -0800 Subject: using Voice over to regester I tunes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: tha'ts odd. I set my email to gmail but I'm sure you can have any email address as long it is in the format if user at domain.com Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 8:35 PM, William Deatherage wrote: > hello, > I was in i tunes and went down to regrester this computer. I was going through the information and I was using the Vo keys and the wright arrow to go through the information. After I got through typing in my e-mail address and date of birth I went to the continue button. I couldn't get past there. I went back and got a message saying something about not a valid E-mail address. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to regrester the computer with I tunes using voice over? > Thank you in advance for your help. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 05:31:28 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:31:28 -0800 Subject: Address Book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <82D3C852-30F6-4549-A92E-5C2186273337@gmail.com> Just type the email in the edit field. no need as far as I'm aware to click on anything. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 8:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > How can I add an E-mail address to the address book? I'm not sure how to click on something if I need to do that. Hitting enter and other things I have tried haven't gotten it. > > Thanks. > > Kristeen > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 08:09:01 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:09:01 +0000 Subject: partitioning my mac startup disk Message-ID: <79181D2C-C5F4-424B-AD17-30C530192F17@gmail.com> Hi if I wish to have 2 partitions on my mac say one for downloads and one for the main mac, do i just using my install dvd, have to make 1 partition and the startup disc itself, is classed as the 2nd? thanks, WIll From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 08:12:37 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:12:37 +0000 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <5DBA2BED-68EB-4D86-8926-8ECA3ECD7AE0@gmail.com> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <5DBA2BED-68EB-4D86-8926-8ECA3ECD7AE0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5C8E1F5C-76B9-4120-B2E9-98C1817B823C@gmail.com> I don't think it does On 24 Feb 2011, at 22:07, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > Sorry, there is one important thing I forgot to include. :) > > If you hold down option during restart, the same way you would after the Apple ding, you will see an extra partition similar to "Recovery HD." When you click on this, you will be permitted to restore from a Time Machine backup, reinstall Mac OS X or start Disk Utility. I imagine this works with VoiceOver, too, though I have not tried that part yet. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 08:15:41 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:15:41 +0000 Subject: Partitioning my hard disk In-Reply-To: <8F7F0AEF-712E-4F0D-97CC-5403CB472885@hopewell.org.uk> References: <8F7F0AEF-712E-4F0D-97CC-5403CB472885@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: i think u can use disc utility On 25 Feb 2011, at 23:02, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I am contemplating signing up for a developer account to access and beta test Lion. My iMac has a 320 GB hard disk of which about 170 GB is free so I would like to divide this into two partitions one for Snow Leopard and the other for Lion. How do I go about doing that? > > When I have done that will both partitions appear in finder as separate disks? If so I would use Super Duper! to replicate my current Snow Leopard installation and then overlay that with Lion. WOuld that work and thereby allow me to run all existing applications in Lion, assuming they still work in the Lion environment? > > I have an external hard drive on which I run time machine and also use for SuperDuper!backups. I would disable time machine in the Lion partition and only use the external hard drive for Snow Leopard. > > Does this all seem feasible? > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 08:22:13 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:22:13 +0000 Subject: Partitioning my hard disk In-Reply-To: <82E8B91F-2CBA-4DFA-ACDF-3453B361E850@gmail.com> References: <8F7F0AEF-712E-4F0D-97CC-5403CB472885@hopewell.org.uk> <82E8B91F-2CBA-4DFA-ACDF-3453B361E850@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6E0042FB-9AAF-4556-A3B6-F4FEA9ECF1F5@gmail.com> sarah, this answers my question posted today if I do this from the mac OSX install dvd though will the first prtition always be the startup disc and then the second one like an extra HD? On 25 Feb 2011, at 23:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: > yeah it does actually. In disk utility go to your main disk and it will say something like disk name, space and a bunch of numbers. Now stop interacting with the table and go to the partition tab and go to add. set the second partition after you name it something you can remember set the format to os extended journaled I think thats what it is called and then allocate your space by typing it in the field. and click add. > > Good luck. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am contemplating signing up for a developer account to access and beta test Lion. My iMac has a 320 GB hard disk of which about 170 GB is free so I would like to divide this into two partitions one for Snow Leopard and the other for Lion. How do I go about doing that? >> >> When I have done that will both partitions appear in finder as separate disks? If so I would use Super Duper! to replicate my current Snow Leopard installation and then overlay that with Lion. WOuld that work and thereby allow me to run all existing applications in Lion, assuming they still work in the Lion environment? >> >> I have an external hard drive on which I run time machine and also use for SuperDuper!backups. I would disable time machine in the Lion partition and only use the external hard drive for Snow Leopard. >> >> Does this all seem feasible? >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Feb 26 08:26:33 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:26:33 +0000 Subject: purchasing and downloading music etc using i-tunes Message-ID: <4d68b86d.5925e30a.0986.586b@mx.google.com> how do i purchase and download music albums etc via i-tunes? i have an account but although i have searched for something using my i-phone, i can't seem to get to the information to be able to make a purchase so i don't know where i am going wrong. for example i double tapped on the album name and it listed the songs only there seemed to be no buttons for me to be able to do my purchase. i did a two finger flick up to the top of the screen only i saw no buttons etc there. the only thing i have not tried is a three finger flick to the bottom. i am not sure what i am supposed to be looking for exactly when using my i-phone. From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Feb 26 09:55:26 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:55:26 +0000 Subject: buying music etc from i-t'unes Message-ID: <4d68cd43.8937e30a.6fe0.5cbe@mx.google.com> i seem to have managed to get my album via i-tunes on the mac rather than on the i-phone. for some reason i entered my details on my i-phone and got an error saying something like "failed to connect to i-tunes store" after accepting my details ie my credit card and address information. i have tried again on the mac and i seem to be getting further as i believe looking at the checkboxes for the songs in the album i have bought that they are either downloading, have been purchased or are queued. problem is i can't seem to find out when my purchased album has finished downloading. also when it is finished, can i send my purchase to my i-phone doing the same proceedure as i do with cds which is to attach my i-phone, select the music button in the options after tabbing past the sources and when the music button is checked, press space or enter on the sync button? From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 10:53:52 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:53:52 +0100 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: <5C8E1F5C-76B9-4120-B2E9-98C1817B823C@gmail.com> References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <5DBA2BED-68EB-4D86-8926-8ECA3ECD7AE0@gmail.com> <5C8E1F5C-76B9-4120-B2E9-98C1817B823C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi William, I don't see why it wouldn't. I still haven't had the chance to try, but it's similar to what you can do off of the Mac OS X installation disk for Snow Leopard. I'd try it before shooting holes in the idea, since making that part suddenly inaccessible would be a step back. Also, you can hold down Command-R to enter the recovery volume at startup, rather than selecting it. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Feb 26, 2011, at 9:12 AM, william lomas wrote: > I don't think it does > > On 24 Feb 2011, at 22:07, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Sorry, there is one important thing I forgot to include. :) >> >> If you hold down option during restart, the same way you would after the Apple ding, you will see an extra partition similar to "Recovery HD." When you click on this, you will be permitted to restore from a Time Machine backup, reinstall Mac OS X or start Disk Utility. I imagine this works with VoiceOver, too, though I have not tried that part yet. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Feb 26 11:02:40 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:02:40 +0000 Subject: downloaded albums on an i-phone Message-ID: <4d68dd04.460ae30a.26e6.5c73@mx.google.com> i have managed to transfer the album i bought via i-tunes from my mac to the i-phone. however i notice that at the beginning of each song i keep getting the message "screen dimmed" which as far as i am aware doesn't happen with albums that i have transfered from my cd collection. why is this and is there a way of preventing it? the only thing i can think of is that this is happening while my i-phone is just connected to my macbook so maybe i should disconnect, try my other albums, transfered from my other cds and see if this is still happening. From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Feb 26 11:19:06 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:19:06 +0000 Subject: i-tunes albums and the i-phone Message-ID: <4d68e0de.47f3d80a.1c1c.4726@mx.google.com> i have disconnected my i-phone from my mac and i am not getting the "screen dimmed" message on my purchased album. maybe this only happened because i had my phone connected to the mac and i didn't have the macbook plugged in and that it was doing this because of drawing power from the battery of the macbook. i thought it could have been a problem during my download of the album from i-tunes and transfering it to the i-phone. this is the first album i have bought from the i-tunes store. From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Feb 26 11:24:44 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:24:44 +0000 Subject: App suggestions for chicksdigmacs.net In-Reply-To: <6E678D25-6659-4DF4-A4F3-B685E34E5C28@chicksdigmacs.net> References: <6E678D25-6659-4DF4-A4F3-B685E34E5C28@chicksdigmacs.net> Message-ID: <8A0AA7AF-1AEB-4654-8947-DBE4C859AA5E@mac-access.net> Rose We at Mac Access Dot Net would love to work with you if you're interested. We could help promote one another. We have a common goal, so why not pool our resources? If it would help, we would be more than happy to host your site, for free. Lynne On 25 Feb 2011, at 20:09, Rose Morales wrote: Hi all, As some of you may aware, I have a site called chicksdigmacs.net. The design is in its early stages of development, but there is a lot of stuff to see on there even so. My goal is to have a site kind of like jfwlite.com used to be before Debby passed away. Only, I want a Mac equivalent. iOS stuff is up here as well, though right now I only have jb-related stuff. Applevis.com has non-jailbreak stuff covered pretty well, so I think all I'll need to do is link to them. If you guys feel there's any non-jb material I should be putting up here, I welcome your input. Most notable to Mac users is my useful Mac apps section. Here I have put all the useful and accessible Mac apps I've found. But I can only go so far on my own. That's where you guys come in. I have found this list to be a valuable resource in my Mac and iOS endeavors, so I'm really counting on you guys. I'm looking for recommendations to add to my downloadable Mac apps collection. Free and paid apps are welcome. Please email me on or off-list with your app suggestions, and I will add them to my site if I feel they will be of use to the Blind Mac community. To clarify, I am uploading dmg's and .app files to my site so that all useful Mac apps can be downloaded in one place. Regards, Rose _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Feb 26 11:32:03 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:32:03 +0000 Subject: How much free space to leave on my iMac hard disk? Message-ID: Hello All, As per a previous note I am thinking of partitioning the 320 GB hard disk on my iMac so that I can run Lion in one of the two partitions. I am now trying to decide how big to make each of the two partitions. My plan is to replicate my Snow Leopard system in a second partition and to then install Lion over the top of this so that I can try all my applications and data with Lion. According to idisk there are 164 GB free and 155 GB used, so I could partition the disk into two partitions each of 160 GB. However this is close to my current 155 GB usage and I am wondering whether only having about 5 GB spare would significantly impact Snow Leopard performance. About 65 GB of the 155 GB is occupied by two Windows virtual machines and if pressed I could delete one of these. Is there any guidance on how much free disk space I should leave for Snow Leopard to use? Note that I have 4 GB of RAM and so maybe need that much free hard disk for sleep? What do you recommend? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 12:09:14 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:09:14 -0500 Subject: another question on using I Tunes In-Reply-To: <433A9C42-4614-4248-9A35-3EC4E364BC9E@insightbb.com> References: <433A9C42-4614-4248-9A35-3EC4E364BC9E@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <96704D3F-7C74-4BB1-A5F3-A7E03157FD2A@gmail.com> Once you register an account in iTunes on the computer, your Apple ID and password are valid on your phone as well, valid on any i devices actually. On Feb 25, 2011, at 11:07 PM, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > if i regester I tunes on my computer then do i also have to regester it on the I Phone? or can i regester it on one and just sign on both.\ > I am new to i tunes and the I phone both. I started with the Mac in December and started learning about it and just started with the I phone last Saturday. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 12:10:51 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:10:51 -0500 Subject: Address Book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83E11D2E-4B46-46B7-B483-965D4BC95643@gmail.com> When adding a contact, or even to add an email address to an existing contact, you can find the email field and type it in. You can also copy the email address from elsewhere and paste it in the edit field. On Feb 25, 2011, at 11:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > How can I add an E-mail address to the address book? I'm not sure how to click on something if I need to do that. Hitting enter and other things I have tried haven't gotten it. > > Thanks. > > Kristeen > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From abreier at kc.rr.com Sat Feb 26 13:28:36 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:28:36 -0600 Subject: purchasing and downloading music etc using i-tunes References: <4d68b86d.5925e30a.0986.586b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <87A0D1F7634444F3B03B9315A871B2EA@andrea78cdd59a> Try swiping to the right and you should see a price and it should be a button, then you can double tap it. My best regards to you all, Andrea M. Breier Spread the laughter Share the cheer Let's be happy While we're here! NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael weaver" To: Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 2:26 AM Subject: purchasing and downloading music etc using i-tunes > how do i purchase and download music albums etc via i-tunes? > i have an account but although i have searched for something using my > i-phone, i can't seem to get to the information to be able to make a > purchase so i don't know where i am going wrong. > > for example i double tapped on the album name and it listed the songs only > there seemed to be no buttons for me to be able to do my purchase. > i did a two finger flick up to the top of the screen only i saw no buttons > etc there. > the only thing i have not tried is a three finger flick to the bottom. > i am not sure what i am supposed to be looking for exactly when using my > i-phone. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 16:45:24 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:45:24 -0500 Subject: An awesome audiobook app in mac app store In-Reply-To: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> References: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> Message-ID: <16DA06C0-FCB8-4139-8D72-82D48DAF44DF@gmail.com> And here is the link for those who want the app from the Mac App Store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/audiobook-binder/id413969927?mt=12 Jane On Feb 25, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I just wanted to let everybody know that there's an awesome, accessible app in the mac app store. It's called audiobook binder, it does essentially the same things as audiobook builder does, but it's free, and seems to convert a lot faster. Hope this is of some interest to people. > Courtney > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 16:44:55 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:44:55 -0500 Subject: An awesome audiobook app in mac app store In-Reply-To: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> References: <3598E283-0CE5-4041-893D-78BFEECEB073@gmail.com> Message-ID: Found it. Oddly, it says "null" can't be installed on this computer. How annoying. Jane On Feb 25, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I just wanted to let everybody know that there's an awesome, accessible app in the mac app store. It's called audiobook binder, it does essentially the same things as audiobook builder does, but it's free, and seems to convert a lot faster. Hope this is of some interest to people. > Courtney > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From abreier at kc.rr.com Sat Feb 26 14:23:06 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:23:06 -0600 Subject: downloading apps on the I phone References: <53138C2C-9599-4689-BB10-FBDF08FEFB86@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Yes once you get an account set up with iTunes the login information will work on any device. I have heard equal parts of q from people regarding thow they like to download music and apps. some like the phone and some like iTunes. I personally like iTunes but I like this method because I can use my regular expanded keyboard which is faster for me. My best regards to you all, Andrea M. Breier Spread the laughter Share the cheer Let's be happy While we're here! NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Deatherage" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:10 AM Subject: downloading apps on the I phone > Hello, > I have been told about downloading apps for the i Phone. I have two > questions. first of all, would I be better off to download them on the Mac > computer and transfer them to the i Phone or straight to the I Phone? > second, I was told in order to download apps to the I phone from I Tunes > you first have to register with I Tunes. I tried this and was having > problems with voice over. does anyone have some suggestions on how to do > this? I realize if i register to I tunes with the I phone then i could > take it to the store and have someone there to give me some help. if I > did that then could I use the same information to sign on my computer and > download from there? > well, there were more than two questions. Thank you for all your help in > advance. this list has been a very valuable resource for me. I want to > thank everyone who makes it possible. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Feb 26 15:41:31 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:41:31 +0000 Subject: applications on the doc Message-ID: <4d691e5e.6686d80a.79d3.4f3e@mx.google.com> how do you remove and add applications to and from the doc? i think i have messed up my skype after forgetting and changing my password. i have now got skype working on my i-phone but since i changed my password i am finding i am getting error messages now i have changed the password so i need to get rid of it altogether before i do a fresh install of skype on the macbook pro. From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 15:48:55 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:48:55 -0600 Subject: iWork KeyNote on iPad Message-ID: Is anyone using iWork KeyNote on iPad? If so, I would be interested in hearing from you and knowing more. Sent from my iPhone From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 15:54:31 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:54:31 -0600 Subject: iPad: iWOrk Pages and Numbers Message-ID: For those who listened to episode 10 of VoiceOver On Team podcast, can you please confirm bugs or provide work-arounds for them? Sent from my iPhone From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sat Feb 26 16:25:33 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:25:33 +0000 Subject: applications on the doc In-Reply-To: <4d691e5e.6686d80a.79d3.4f3e@mx.google.com> References: <4d691e5e.6686d80a.79d3.4f3e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <94B795F3-DEFE-4581-A83F-C26525B41FFB@gmail.com> Hi Micheal! When on the Skype in the doc open menu vo+shift+m and in options will be remove from doc! And if you want to add a app open it then go to doc and sit on the app and use the same menu but of course look for keep in doc vo space on it and your done! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 26 Feb 2011, at 15:41, michael weaver wrote: > how do you remove and add applications to and from the doc? > i think i have messed up my skype after forgetting and changing my password. > i have now got skype working on my i-phone but since i changed my password i am finding i am getting error messages now i have changed the password so i need to get rid of it altogether before i do a fresh install of skype on the macbook pro. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 26 16:45:39 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:45:39 -0600 Subject: Mac OS X 10.7, Lion has been released to developers In-Reply-To: References: <8A5518F4-1CAF-404E-8E14-7C6040F1FD90@gmail.com> <5DBA2BED-68EB-4D86-8926-8ECA3ECD7AE0@gmail.com> <5C8E1F5C-76B9-4120-B2E9-98C1817B823C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Holding down the option key during boot allows you to select which partition will boot, but this process has never been accessible with vo, because there is no os loaded at this point, ergo, no frameworks for speech. You just have to remember which disk is first, second, and so on. It's really not that hard, since it doesn't wrap, so if you're booting from the second partition regularly, then left arrow will put you on the first one, and vice versa. From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 26 16:56:36 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:56:36 -0600 Subject: How much free space to leave on my iMac hard disk? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7D4700CD-BE5F-4026-A668-289AEF0A03BB@softcon.com> There's really no rule for splitting the disk, split as you see fit. However, if you just want it for testing, 100GB should be more than enough. And, again, I highly recomend *not* installing snowleopard before installing lion over top of it. It's always best to install from scratch when you're testing a new os, especially one that hasn't been released to the general public, because then you are sure any problems are a result of the actual os, and not left over from something that was already on the system from the previous os install. From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 18:02:42 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:02:42 +0000 Subject: developer preview of Lion Message-ID: HI all, If one wishes to opt in to the developer program and perhaps like me, learn to program and help shape voiceover, is there a special developer list we can join does anyone please know, to discuss voiceover issues, or if not, a direct contact with apple for dialog? Regards, WIll From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 19:17:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:17:29 -0800 Subject: Address Book In-Reply-To: <83E11D2E-4B46-46B7-B483-965D4BC95643@gmail.com> References: <83E11D2E-4B46-46B7-B483-965D4BC95643@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5C0A5E04-D656-4156-8414-07B1943234D1@gmail.com> I also believe you can add custom fields as well. I added a field called list address. and someone else gave me another tip about smart folders but I'll have to play with that as I lost the email lol! Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:10 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > When adding a contact, or even to add an email address to an existing contact, you can find the email field and type it in. You can also copy the email address from elsewhere and paste it in the edit field. > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 11:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> How can I add an E-mail address to the address book? I'm not sure how to click on something if I need to do that. Hitting enter and other things I have tried haven't gotten it. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Kristeen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Fri Feb 25 20:14:07 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:14:07 +0000 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <7ED5A7C6-892B-4DC1-8F48-81F67001FA0B@gmail.com> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <977837C7-11E6-4C27-AC9B-34399845BBBE@mac-access.net> <7ED5A7C6-892B-4DC1-8F48-81F67001FA0B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <435BC32F-DDF5-48A6-8C18-44AB8F41F8B8@gmail.com> Hi there! I've just been following this for fun! But last night I had a Iweb update! [ I should say early this morning] Anyway I thought you'd like to know! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 25 Feb 2011, at 19:40, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Lynne, > > Firstly, I'm glad that you guys managed to get Gordon enrolled. I hope he enjoys it. :) > > Secondly, I agree again with you. There are a lot of things which Apple doesn't consider when it comes to non-US-based customers, or even consumers in general. Not just on the web, but in its devices. > > I won't go into that, because then I'll end up ranting like a crazy man, so I'll stop here. :) > > iWeb still hasn't seen any changes. In fact, I don't even think it's been updated recently which is a shame. Although I like writing my code by hand, it's still nice to use tools to evaluate it or add suggestions to it. > > Anyway, yeah, I said I'd stop. *ends ranting* > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Nic >> >> On 25 Feb 2011, at 18:08, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >> ? I absolutely agree with you on that front. I personally think it is absolutely preposterous that you have to spend money calling on support, then getting them to fix it for you. That should not be the case and hopefully will be looked into. >> >> Apple seems to be very much full of their own self-importance when it comes to the financial side of their operations. They really don't treat the overseas consumer very well all things considered. >> >> They want our money; even come begging for it by sending stupid pointless E-Mails about things which aren't even that new. >> >> Apple would be better served, in my opinion, trying to put right the technical blunders they make regularly with regards their web content. They promote accessibility and yes, I wouldn't argue for a second that their software is generally excellent in terms of accessibility. >> >> The obvious exception to the rule here is iWeb. They've had years, but as far as I can tell they haven't even begun to make the thing accessible. yes, there are some other products which will work quite well. But they don't do what iWeb does and, as such, they preclude a growing group of their customer base from using the product. >> >> I could be wrong; but it looks to me as though quite a bit of their web content is developed using iWeb. Maybe that explains the lack of thought that goes into it sometimes. >> >> I wish I could talk about the one big issue here which stands out for me. But I can not do so because it would involve revealing some information which Gordon signed up not to reveal and, even though it isn't current any longer, it still counts. >> >> Lynne, in rant mode. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sat Feb 26 15:01:36 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:01:36 +0000 Subject: Address Book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08D78247-C921-4D6D-894B-DD415CF8E968@gmail.com> Hi there! When in a mail or I think whilst on the message heading you can press command+shift+y that add's sender to address book! hth Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 26 Feb 2011, at 04:18, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > How can I add an E-mail address to the address book? I'm not sure how to click on something if I need to do that. Hitting enter and other things I have tried haven't gotten it. > > Thanks. > > Kristeen > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 16:32:56 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:32:56 -0600 Subject: iPad: iWOrk Pages and Numbers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6588A51E-C006-4F6A-84EC-066CA73C21BB@gmail.com> Please: view: http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com Subscribe: http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com/feed Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: > For those who listened to episode 10 of VoiceOver On Team podcast, can you please confirm bugs or provide work-arounds for them? > > Sent from my iPhone From support at mac-access.net Sat Feb 26 19:38:58 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:38:58 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. This one is an unusual one. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome "J?rgen Skov Nielsen" to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From support at mac-access.net Sat Feb 26 19:46:20 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:46:20 +0000 Subject: Carbon Copying Messages Message-ID: Hello everybody I have asked people repeatedly to please not send messages with carbon copied destinations set to this group. It causes problems for us; and Colin, I am not talking about you! We are aware of your special circumstances, and have a work-around planned for you. If, in the same way, there is a specific need for somebody to send CC messages to the group, please contact us and let us know why. If your reason is justified, we can arrange the same work-around for you as well. As it is, there are two people who are consistently sending CC messages to the group. Unfortunately, if this happens again, they will be added to a list of moderated users whose mail will be vetted before allowed to the group. We do this with the greatest of reluctance, and we are disappointed that people are still blatantly, it seems, ignoring our requests for compliance with the policy document which each and every one of you was sent when you signed up to this group. So be it. Please consider this official final notification that, unless we receive private reasoning and we give our consent, those people who are still behaving in this way will find themselves moderated the next time they do this, without prior notice. We do this, as I said, with the greatest of reluctance. But it seems we have little option. Lynne From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Feb 26 20:03:04 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:03:04 +0000 Subject: Partitioning my hard disk In-Reply-To: <82E8B91F-2CBA-4DFA-ACDF-3453B361E850@gmail.com> References: <8F7F0AEF-712E-4F0D-97CC-5403CB472885@hopewell.org.uk> <82E8B91F-2CBA-4DFA-ACDF-3453B361E850@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0E6B9259-E2C6-4456-84EE-BA45703B3975@hopewell.org.uk> Hello Sarah and Others, I am now ready to partition my iMac start disk which is less than 50% full. Naturally I am a little nervous about doing this and would like any information on what should happen. I have gone to disk utility and selected the 320 GB start up disk, on which I want to create a new partition of 110 GB. There are currently no partitions on this disk. I selected the partition tab and pressed the add partition button. This resulted in a volume scheme of 2 partitions (which is what I expect) but did not seem to offer any edit boxes in which I could enter the name and size of the new partition. The help text suggests that disk utility will split the hard disk into 2 equal partitions and said that I could modify the partition size later. So I pressed the apply button which displayed a warning asking if I was sure I wanted to partition the disk and output a message whichh either meant that the new partition would be called "MAC HD (2)" or maybe that the existing start up disk would be called "MAC HD (2)" (it is currently called "MAC HD"). At this point I chose the cancel option while awaiting guidance on what to expect from those who have done this before! Many thanks for any guidance. Paul Hopewell On 25 Feb 2011, at 23:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: > yeah it does actually. In disk utility go to your main disk and it will say something like disk name, space and a bunch of numbers. Now stop interacting with the table and go to the partition tab and go to add. set the second partition after you name it something you can remember set the format to os extended journaled I think thats what it is called and then allocate your space by typing it in the field. and click add. > > Good luck. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am contemplating signing up for a developer account to access and beta test Lion. My iMac has a 320 GB hard disk of which about 170 GB is free so I would like to divide this into two partitions one for Snow Leopard and the other for Lion. How do I go about doing that? >> >> When I have done that will both partitions appear in finder as separate disks? If so I would use Super Duper! to replicate my current Snow Leopard installation and then overlay that with Lion. WOuld that work and thereby allow me to run all existing applications in Lion, assuming they still work in the Lion environment? >> >> I have an external hard drive on which I run time machine and also use for SuperDuper!backups. I would disable time machine in the Lion partition and only use the external hard drive for Snow Leopard. >> >> Does this all seem feasible? >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 20:09:00 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:09:00 +0000 Subject: Partitioning my hard disk In-Reply-To: <0E6B9259-E2C6-4456-84EE-BA45703B3975@hopewell.org.uk> References: <8F7F0AEF-712E-4F0D-97CC-5403CB472885@hopewell.org.uk> <82E8B91F-2CBA-4DFA-ACDF-3453B361E850@gmail.com> <0E6B9259-E2C6-4456-84EE-BA45703B3975@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: ok you will see 2 "unkwons" mouse click voiceover shift space and then stop interacting and if the size is say 2 gig then you are editing the right partition On 26 Feb 2011, at 20:03, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello Sarah and Others, > I am now ready to partition my iMac start disk which is less than 50% full. Naturally I am a little nervous about doing this and would like any information on what should happen. > > I have gone to disk utility and selected the 320 GB start up disk, on which I want to create a new partition of 110 GB. There are currently no partitions on this disk. I selected the partition tab and pressed the add partition button. This resulted in a volume scheme of 2 partitions (which is what I expect) but did not seem to offer any edit boxes in which I could enter the name and size of the new partition. The help text suggests that disk utility will split the hard disk into 2 equal partitions and said that I could modify the partition size later. So I pressed the apply button which displayed a warning asking if I was sure I wanted to partition the disk and output a message whichh either meant that the new partition would be called "MAC HD (2)" or maybe that the existing start up disk would be called "MAC HD (2)" (it is currently called "MAC HD"). At this point I chose the cancel option while awaiting guidance on what to expect from those who have done this before! > Many thanks for any guidance. > > Paul Hopewell > On 25 Feb 2011, at 23:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> yeah it does actually. In disk utility go to your main disk and it will say something like disk name, space and a bunch of numbers. Now stop interacting with the table and go to the partition tab and go to add. set the second partition after you name it something you can remember set the format to os extended journaled I think thats what it is called and then allocate your space by typing it in the field. and click add. >> >> Good luck. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Feb 25, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I am contemplating signing up for a developer account to access and beta test Lion. My iMac has a 320 GB hard disk of which about 170 GB is free so I would like to divide this into two partitions one for Snow Leopard and the other for Lion. How do I go about doing that? >>> >>> When I have done that will both partitions appear in finder as separate disks? If so I would use Super Duper! to replicate my current Snow Leopard installation and then overlay that with Lion. WOuld that work and thereby allow me to run all existing applications in Lion, assuming they still work in the Lion environment? >>> >>> I have an external hard drive on which I run time machine and also use for SuperDuper!backups. I would disable time machine in the Lion partition and only use the external hard drive for Snow Leopard. >>> >>> Does this all seem feasible? >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 20:46:41 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:46:41 -0800 Subject: I believe I btoke my finder. Message-ID: <624BAB97-CE09-4B22-BD08-EF7929C2DE2A@gmail.com> Hello to all. I some how put my finder out of tab order. I can get there with vo shift d but that's it. Can anyone help me get my finder bak in tab order? I'm headed out the door to class so might not be able to answer right away. Take care all. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 20:47:04 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:47:04 -0800 Subject: I believe I broke my finder. Message-ID: <811FF64E-1D9C-4FF1-8D85-D6FB5B48508D@gmail.com> Hello to all. I some how put my finder out of tab order. I can get there with vo shift d but that's it. Can anyone help me get my finder bak in tab order? I'm headed out the door to class so might not be able to answer right away. Take care all. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 20:48:25 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:48:25 -0800 Subject: Partitioning my hard disk In-Reply-To: <0E6B9259-E2C6-4456-84EE-BA45703B3975@hopewell.org.uk> References: <8F7F0AEF-712E-4F0D-97CC-5403CB472885@hopewell.org.uk> <82E8B91F-2CBA-4DFA-ACDF-3453B361E850@gmail.com> <0E6B9259-E2C6-4456-84EE-BA45703B3975@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <9C6E63CA-1C96-4388-B06A-8360F85127BF@gmail.com> You were on the right track. All you do now is to click the second unknown and rename and choose what you want including space. S Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 26, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello Sarah and Others, > I am now ready to partition my iMac start disk which is less than 50% full. Naturally I am a little nervous about doing this and would like any information on what should happen. > > I have gone to disk utility and selected the 320 GB start up disk, on which I want to create a new partition of 110 GB. There are currently no partitions on this disk. I selected the partition tab and pressed the add partition button. This resulted in a volume scheme of 2 partitions (which is what I expect) but did not seem to offer any edit boxes in which I could enter the name and size of the new partition. The help text suggests that disk utility will split the hard disk into 2 equal partitions and said that I could modify the partition size later. So I pressed the apply button which displayed a warning asking if I was sure I wanted to partition the disk and output a message whichh either meant that the new partition would be called "MAC HD (2)" or maybe that the existing start up disk would be called "MAC HD (2)" (it is currently called "MAC HD"). At this point I chose the cancel option while awaiting guidance on what to expect from those who have done this before! > Many thanks for any guidance. > > Paul Hopewell > On 25 Feb 2011, at 23:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> yeah it does actually. In disk utility go to your main disk and it will say something like disk name, space and a bunch of numbers. Now stop interacting with the table and go to the partition tab and go to add. set the second partition after you name it something you can remember set the format to os extended journaled I think thats what it is called and then allocate your space by typing it in the field. and click add. >> >> Good luck. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Feb 25, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I am contemplating signing up for a developer account to access and beta test Lion. My iMac has a 320 GB hard disk of which about 170 GB is free so I would like to divide this into two partitions one for Snow Leopard and the other for Lion. How do I go about doing that? >>> >>> When I have done that will both partitions appear in finder as separate disks? If so I would use Super Duper! to replicate my current Snow Leopard installation and then overlay that with Lion. WOuld that work and thereby allow me to run all existing applications in Lion, assuming they still work in the Lion environment? >>> >>> I have an external hard drive on which I run time machine and also use for SuperDuper!backups. I would disable time machine in the Lion partition and only use the external hard drive for Snow Leopard. >>> >>> Does this all seem feasible? >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 20:52:04 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:52:04 -0500 Subject: Setting up my DVD drive for the first time Message-ID: I put a DVD in my drive and, because this is the first time I've ever tried to play a DVD, the computer is asking me to choose my region. Problem is, the regions only give a number from 1 through 8 with seven missing. I don't know which number to choose. I'm wondering if anyone can help me. What number would it want for Louisville Kentucky? Thanks. Kristeen From khwicca at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 21:01:55 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:01:55 -0500 Subject: Address Book In-Reply-To: <08D78247-C921-4D6D-894B-DD415CF8E968@gmail.com> References: <08D78247-C921-4D6D-894B-DD415CF8E968@gmail.com> Message-ID: <10A9C296-51DC-4FA2-A7B7-2ACF00DF148C@gmail.com> Yes, I can do that, but how do I ad an address such as the E-mail for this list, for example. Replying to messages doesn't seem to do it the way it does in Windows. Kristeen On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Colin M wrote: > Hi there! > When in a mail or I think whilst on the message heading you can press command+shift+y that add's sender to address book! > hth Colin > Qapla! > > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > On 26 Feb 2011, at 04:18, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> How can I add an E-mail address to the address book? I'm not sure how to click on something if I need to do that. Hitting enter and other things I have tried haven't gotten it. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Kristeen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Feb 26 21:40:07 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:40:07 -1000 Subject: Setting up my DVD drive for the first time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9DAAA48C-AC88-4F0D-B100-85C6BCFA1B21@mac.com> Hi Kristeen, Your DVD drive should be set to region 1, which is for the U.S. and Canada. Users in Europe would set the region code to 2. Most DVD drives are set to only allow you to change to 5 different region settings (that includes your original selection), before locking you in to the last entered region. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:52, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I put a DVD in my drive and, because this is the first time I've ever tried to play a DVD, the computer is asking me to choose my region. Problem is, the regions only give a number from 1 through 8 with seven missing. I don't know which number to choose. I'm wondering if any one can help me. What number would it want for Louisville Kentucky? > > Thanks. > > Kristeen > From shawx at westnet.com.au Sat Feb 26 22:41:43 2011 From: shawx at westnet.com.au (Col Shawcross) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:41:43 +1100 Subject: address book Message-ID: <4BC2B66B-9A7C-4DAF-A68E-DD76514E3F4B@westnet.com.au> creating a new address in mail. open the address book, either from the applications folder, or the doc. you now will find the options to create a new card. Col. From phonerossy at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 23:39:12 2011 From: phonerossy at gmail.com (rossy) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:39:12 +0100 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <7ED5A7C6-892B-4DC1-8F48-81F67001FA0B@gmail.com> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <977837C7-11E6-4C27-AC9B-34399845BBBE@mac-access.net> <7ED5A7C6-892B-4DC1-8F48-81F67001FA0B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9EAD7434-AA1A-404B-A9B3-DC8E08555868@gmail.com> Il giorno 25/feb/2011, alle ore 20.40, Nicolai Svendsen ha scritto: > Secondly, I agree again with you. There are a lot of things which Apple doesn't consider when it comes to non-US-based customers, or even consumers in general. Not just on the web, but in its devices. rossy with lion appple introduces foreign screen reader support . i think that they are making some steps forwards non US customers , vo users as well . here in italy we are all excited to see what hapens . smile rossy From n0oxy at charter.net Sun Feb 27 00:48:40 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:48:40 -0600 Subject: Setting up my DVD drive for the first time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Usually, just going with te default works fine, assuming the DVD you're playing is from your own region. This is one of those things the industry added to make things more complicated than they need to be. On Feb 26, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I put a DVD in my drive and, because this is the first time I've ever tried to play a DVD, the computer is asking me to choose my region. Problem is, the regions only give a number from 1 through 8 with seven missing. I don't know which number to choose. I'm wondering if anyone can help me. What number would it want for Louisville Kentucky? > > Thanks. > > Kristeen > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Sun Feb 27 01:23:39 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:23:39 -0500 Subject: App suggestions for chicksdigmacs.net In-Reply-To: <8A0AA7AF-1AEB-4654-8947-DBE4C859AA5E@mac-access.net> References: <6E678D25-6659-4DF4-A4F3-B685E34E5C28@chicksdigmacs.net> <8A0AA7AF-1AEB-4654-8947-DBE4C859AA5E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6E9D9C13-D222-4B97-A9A7-A05793ECC579@chicksdigmacs.net> Lynn, Thank you for the generous offer. Right now I am paying $20 a month for a linode. That is where I have installed and configured Apache and my web site as a result. I also have a public and a private teamtalk server which point to that domain. The public server is not only for Mac related things, though a lot of techies find their way there. It's a public server, so anyone can join. I considered coming to you when I bought my domain, but I did not out of consideration for your band width. Even if you were to consent to let me have Teamtalk pointing to that IP, I wouldn't want to take advantage of free band width. And Teamtalk, depending on one's transmission rate, can take up a lot of band width. Now, I can simply have my Teamtalk servers on that Linode and still host with you guys. But I figured I might as well host my site on the same box, since I'm paying for it anyway. I hope you can see my dilemma, :). I would love to collaborate with you in Gordon though, in any way that I can. Feel free to write me off-list. Rose On Feb 26, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Rose > > We at Mac Access Dot Net would love to work with you if you're interested. We could help promote one another. We have a common goal, so why not pool our resources? If it would help, we would be more than happy to host your site, for free. > > Lynne > > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 20:09, Rose Morales wrote: > > Hi all, > As some of you may aware, I have a site called chicksdigmacs.net. The design is in its early stages of development, but there is a lot of stuff to see on there even so. My goal is to have a site kind of like jfwlite.com used to be before Debby passed away. Only, I want a Mac equivalent. iOS stuff is up here as well, though right now I only have jb-related stuff. Applevis.com has non-jailbreak stuff covered pretty well, so I think all I'll need to do is link to them. If you guys feel there's any non-jb material I should be putting up here, I welcome your input. Most notable to Mac users is my useful Mac apps section. Here I have put all the useful and accessible Mac apps I've found. But I can only go so far on my own. That's where you guys come in. I have found this list to be a valuable resource in my Mac and iOS endeavors, so I'm really counting on you guys. I'm looking for recommendations to add to my downloadable Mac apps collection. Free and paid apps are welcome. Please > email me on or off-list with your app suggestions, and I will add them to my site if I feel they will be of use to the Blind Mac community. To clarify, I am uploading dmg's and .app files to my site so that all useful Mac apps can be downloaded in one place. > Regards, > Rose > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 04:27:15 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:27:15 -0600 Subject: Installed Lion, no VO speech, only sounds Message-ID: <230F1065-7567-4757-9347-E7737500109D@gmail.com> When I installed Mac OS X Lion, I went through install in Snow Leopard, it restarted, turned on VO, waited the 30 mins, and waited for it to present login screen, where I turned on VoiceOver. I only received sound, no speech. I kept on toggling VoiceOver, only got sounds... This even occurred after logging in. Any ideas of what I might be able to do to resolve this? Sent from my iPhone From support at mac-access.net Sun Feb 27 04:53:00 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 04:53:00 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <7F1A6F60-1479-4940-A59B-6D818595A332@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Kevin Fjelsted to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at support at mac-access.net or our very capable assistant list controller Anne Robertson, anne at anarchie.org.uk and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 27 05:02:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 05:02:24 +0000 Subject: App suggestions for chicksdigmacs.net In-Reply-To: <6E9D9C13-D222-4B97-A9A7-A05793ECC579@chicksdigmacs.net> References: <6E678D25-6659-4DF4-A4F3-B685E34E5C28@chicksdigmacs.net> <8A0AA7AF-1AEB-4654-8947-DBE4C859AA5E@mac-access.net> <6E9D9C13-D222-4B97-A9A7-A05793ECC579@chicksdigmacs.net> Message-ID: Hello Rose I will top post as this was quite long. Please don't worry about the hosting; although if we can ever help, we have oodles of bandwidth, as we are not using standard DSL or ADSL but dual trunked load balanced SDSL lines which are routed through an 8 channel extendable fibre-optic wide-band router. We offer hosting to any visually impaired user, in full or in part, who we can help be that web or mail or both or other. You haven't offended us in the slightest, and it's good to see that there are those who show consideration. My only concern here is that we don't want to put off any others by your term "Take Advantage". The offer is genuine, and it's there. However, yes; we would still like to pool resources. You seem very clued up and I don't pretend to know what those servers are you're talking about. Gordon probably would; but he's in the land of the teddy-bears right now and I want him to remain there for some time yet. We would, as I said, still like to pool our resources in a kind of "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" kind of relationship. We believe we have a lot to offer, and it sounds as though you do too; although they're not the same thing, which is good actually because it means that the offerings are more wide and varied. I'll be in touch on twitter or by private email Rose; and thank you. Lynne On 27 Feb 2011, at 01:23, Rose Morales wrote: Lynn, Thank you for the generous offer. Right now I am paying $20 a month for a linode. That is where I have installed and configured Apache and my web site as a result. I also have a public and a private teamtalk server which point to that domain. The public server is not only for Mac related things, though a lot of techies find their way there. It's a public server, so anyone can join. I considered coming to you when I bought my domain, but I did not out of consideration for your band width. Even if you were to consent to let me have Teamtalk pointing to that IP, I wouldn't want to take advantage of free band width. And Teamtalk, depending on one's transmission rate, can take up a lot of band width. Now, I can simply have my Teamtalk servers on that Linode and still host with you guys. But I figured I might as well host my site on the same box, since I'm paying for it anyway. I hope you can see my dilemma, :). I would love to collaborate with you in Gordon though, in any way that I can. Feel free to write me off-list. Rose On Feb 26, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Rose > > We at Mac Access Dot Net would love to work with you if you're interested. We could help promote one another. We have a common goal, so why not pool our resources? If it would help, we would be more than happy to host your site, for free. > > Lynne > > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 20:09, Rose Morales wrote: > > Hi all, > As some of you may aware, I have a site called chicksdigmacs.net. The design is in its early stages of development, but there is a lot of stuff to see on there even so. My goal is to have a site kind of like jfwlite.com used to be before Debby passed away. Only, I want a Mac equivalent. iOS stuff is up here as well, though right now I only have jb-related stuff. Applevis.com has non-jailbreak stuff covered pretty well, so I think all I'll need to do is link to them. If you guys feel there's any non-jb material I should be putting up here, I welcome your input. Most notable to Mac users is my useful Mac apps section. Here I have put all the useful and accessible Mac apps I've found. But I can only go so far on my own. That's where you guys come in. I have found this list to be a valuable resource in my Mac and iOS endeavors, so I'm really counting on you guys. I'm looking for recommendations to add to my downloadable Mac apps collection. Free and paid apps are welcome. Plea se > email me on or off-list with your app suggestions, and I will add them to my site if I feel they will be of use to the Blind Mac community. To clarify, I am uploading dmg's and .app files to my site so that all useful Mac apps can be downloaded in one place. > Regards, > Rose > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 27 05:03:33 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 05:03:33 +0000 Subject: Installed Lion, no VO speech, only sounds In-Reply-To: <230F1065-7567-4757-9347-E7737500109D@gmail.com> References: <230F1065-7567-4757-9347-E7737500109D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18945A31-E701-430A-BE3D-F131CF2B1752@mac-access.net> Hello Kevin May I ask you to please not discuss Lion on this list. Doing so is a breech of NDA as it's a private project. Thank you. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 05:22:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:22:18 -0800 Subject: Setting up my DVD drive for the first time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8773801F-73F7-448E-819A-1FB92316BDDD@gmail.com> To bad there is no way to reset that. It sucks. On 26/02/2011, at 16:48, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Usually, just going with te default works fine, assuming the DVD you're playing is from your own region. This is one of those things the industry added to make things more complicated than they need to be. > On Feb 26, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> I put a DVD in my drive and, because this is the first time I've ever tried to play a DVD, the computer is asking me to choose my region. Problem is, the regions only give a number from 1 through 8 with seven missing. I don't know which number to choose. I'm wondering if anyone can help me. What number would it want for Louisville Kentucky? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Kristeen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 27 05:27:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 05:27:57 +0000 Subject: Just one more little word about Mac OSX 10.7 Message-ID: <28A19195-5F46-4DFD-BDC3-E118BCD56EA2@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I just want to make my position on this clear. I have been approached privately by two people in the last 48 hours asking for information as to whether I know of a location for obtaining Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) via bit torrent. I do not; and I wouldn't tell you if I did. I object to piracy, and make no mistake, everybody. I don't care who this involves, even Gordon. If I ever got wind of anybody using this material when illegally obtained, and if I ever found out exactly who and where they are, Apple would hear about it, make no mistake. I feel very strongly about the issue of software piracy because it's something for which those of us who do the decent thing have to pay for. Prices are high so that developers don't lose out too much to the selfish people with no consciences who seem to think that they have the right to steal other people's properties. I won't bore the group with any more of my views. But just don't come to me asking for this stuff. I'll shop you if I find out who you are, you've been warned. Lyne From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 06:40:51 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:40:51 -0800 Subject: Mac OS X Lion: 'Classic' Mail View Available, Video of Finder Message-ID: This thing is not very detailed but there's a forum you can join on this page. read more. http://bit.ly/gvURkC From simon at scavendish.co.uk Sun Feb 27 08:09:49 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 08:09:49 +0000 Subject: Open Office and its accessibility with voiceover Message-ID: <930A905E-4875-4D8E-B8F7-C037A3BC9804@scavendish.co.uk> Hello, The accessibility of Open Office with voiceover has been discussed on numerous occasions. Does anyone know whether Open Office is any more accessible now than it used to be a year ago? Thanks for any info. Simon From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 08:32:09 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:32:09 -0800 Subject: Open Office and its accessibility with voiceover In-Reply-To: <930A905E-4875-4D8E-B8F7-C037A3BC9804@scavendish.co.uk> References: <930A905E-4875-4D8E-B8F7-C037A3BC9804@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: I have not used it in about 6 months but I hope they fixed it so it does not crash when entering the prefs and the mail merge thing. if they fixed that I don't have to find that script to do mail merges and bulk emailers again.. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 27, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Hello, > > The accessibility of Open Office with voiceover has been discussed on numerous occasions. Does anyone know whether Open Office is any more accessible now than it used to be a year ago? > > Thanks for any info. > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Sun Feb 27 08:34:33 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 03:34:33 -0500 Subject: Open Office and its accessibility with voiceover In-Reply-To: References: <930A905E-4875-4D8E-B8F7-C037A3BC9804@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: Tried it the other day. Still crashes when you launch preferences. Filed a bug report for version 3.1. They couldn't verify the bug, supposedly. Just wow. On Feb 27, 2011, at 3:32 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I have not used it in about 6 months but I hope they fixed it so it does not crash when entering the prefs and the mail merge thing. if they fixed that I don't have to find that script to do mail merges and bulk emailers again.. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Feb 27, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> The accessibility of Open Office with voiceover has been discussed on numerous occasions. Does anyone know whether Open Office is any more accessible now than it used to be a year ago? >> >> Thanks for any info. >> >> Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 08:49:45 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 08:49:45 +0000 Subject: Lion Message-ID: <9AC51E2E-1F91-4BCC-B621-B9C86F241424@gmail.com> HI all, As Lynne has quite rightly pointed out, we should not be discussing Lion until it is released really. True, I guess for those like me, who wish to obtain it through apple and pay the yearly fee even for testing purposes, this is acceptable for now I guess but we shouldn't be discussing it until release really I would assume. Also remember if one torrents it I don't think you get access to all features anyway since from what I have been reading, one gets a code to "link"t he download I guess to your apple ID thus confirming you are eligible to use the software. From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Sun Feb 27 09:08:08 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:08:08 +0000 Subject: Address Book In-Reply-To: <10A9C296-51DC-4FA2-A7B7-2ACF00DF148C@gmail.com> References: <08D78247-C921-4D6D-894B-DD415CF8E968@gmail.com> <10A9C296-51DC-4FA2-A7B7-2ACF00DF148C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00FD54D5-7650-4EAA-A53D-1183661336D3@googlemail.com> One way to do it is to go to the window option on the menu bar (vo plus m ) and arrow across to previous recipients, arrow down the list of addresses and then move along to the add to address book button, selectting this with vo plus space will do the job. hth G From glorious Devon, England. On 26 Feb 2011, at 21:01, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > Yes, I can do that, but how do I ad an address such as the E-mail for this list, for example. Replying to messages doesn't seem to do it the way it does in Windows. > > Kristeen > > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi there! >> When in a mail or I think whilst on the message heading you can press command+shift+y that add's sender to address book! >> hth Colin >> Qapla! >> >> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak >> >> On 26 Feb 2011, at 04:18, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >> >>> How can I add an E-mail address to the address book? I'm not sure how to click on something if I need to do that. Hitting enter and other things I have tried haven't gotten it. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Kristeen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 09:08:09 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 01:08:09 -0800 Subject: Open Office and its accessibility with voiceover In-Reply-To: References: <930A905E-4875-4D8E-B8F7-C037A3BC9804@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: <5F6D94C8-F07C-4757-8943-1FF54A72BE64@gmail.com> Darn! Ok maybe someone can do a movie screenshot and send in the crash reports as well. How could they not verify it. is it vo specific I wonder. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 27, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Rose Morales wrote: > Tried it the other day. Still crashes when you launch preferences. Filed a bug report for version 3.1. They couldn't verify the bug, supposedly. Just wow. > On Feb 27, 2011, at 3:32 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I have not used it in about 6 months but I hope they fixed it so it does not crash when entering the prefs and the mail merge thing. if they fixed that I don't have to find that script to do mail merges and bulk emailers again.. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Feb 27, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> The accessibility of Open Office with voiceover has been discussed on numerous occasions. Does anyone know whether Open Office is any more accessible now than it used to be a year ago? >>> >>> Thanks for any info. >>> >>> Simon >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 27 09:11:15 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:11:15 +0000 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <435BC32F-DDF5-48A6-8C18-44AB8F41F8B8@gmail.com> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <977837C7-11E6-4C27-AC9B-34399845BBBE@mac-access.net> <7ED5A7C6-892B-4DC1-8F48-81F67001FA0B@gmail.com> <435BC32F-DDF5-48A6-8C18-44AB8F41F8B8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A581527-6AD7-4092-9FC6-D9BD71E43C74@mac-access.net> Hi Colin On 25 Feb 2011, at 20:14, Colin M wrote: ? I've just been following this for fun! But last night I had a Iweb update! [ I should say early this morning] Is this over and above the one released last week? Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 27 09:20:50 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:20:50 +0000 Subject: Lion In-Reply-To: <9AC51E2E-1F91-4BCC-B621-B9C86F241424@gmail.com> References: <9AC51E2E-1F91-4BCC-B621-B9C86F241424@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9A896135-0C3A-4CE0-9568-C94AB5393E8D@mac-access.net> Hello William On 27 Feb 2011, at 08:49, william lomas wrote: ? As Lynne has quite rightly pointed out, we should not be discussing Lion until it is released really. Let me just expand on this a little. What I meant was that those who have signed up as developers should not be discussing features as they have agreed not too. Apple specifically tells you this on their website sign-up form. You are deemed to have signed that agreement by virtue of the fact that you ticked the box to indicate as much. So those of us who have Lion, it's time to remember that we signed up to shut up. That said, one will never spot general speculations and I guess that isn't so much a problem as long as people who haven't signed up don't start bugging those of us who have signed up for it and paid our money in order to get information. ? True, I guess for those like me, who wish to obtain it through apple and pay the yearly fee even for testing purposes, this is acceptable for now I guess but we shouldn't be discussing it until release really I would assume. Also remember if one torrents it I don't think you get access to all features anyway since from what I have been reading, one gets a code to "link"t he download I guess to your apple ID thus confirming you are eligible to use the software. Acquiring Lion that way is definitely not up for discussion on this list. The simple fact is that it is illegal. I said it earlier and I'll say it again. If I can ever prove that somebody did acquire it that way and I find out who and where they are, believe me, I will have no compunctions about informing Apple and I hope they get all they deserve. Lynne From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sun Feb 27 10:47:53 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:47:53 +0000 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <4A581527-6AD7-4092-9FC6-D9BD71E43C74@mac-access.net> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <977837C7-11E6-4C27-AC9B-34399845BBBE@mac-access.net> <7ED5A7C6-892B-4DC1-8F48-81F67001FA0B@gmail.com> <435BC32F-DDF5-48A6-8C18-44AB8F41F8B8@gmail.com> <4A581527-6AD7-4092-9FC6-D9BD71E43C74@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <44775017-38FC-4B1A-B0BC-2E86C73B3AC3@gmail.com> Hi Lynne! I presume it's the same one because it's the only Iweb update I've had as far as I know! Its differently the only one this year! So I got it after you and I wonder if Nic got it as well! Since his post! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 27 Feb 2011, at 09:11, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hi Colin > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 20:14, Colin M wrote: > > ? I've just been following this for fun! > But last night I had a Iweb update! [ I should say early this morning] > > Is this over and above the one released last week? > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 27 11:09:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:09:27 +0000 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <44775017-38FC-4B1A-B0BC-2E86C73B3AC3@gmail.com> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <977837C7-11E6-4C27-AC9B-34399845BBBE@mac-access.net> <7ED5A7C6-892B-4DC1-8F48-81F67001FA0B@gmail.com> <435BC32F-DDF5-48A6-8C18-44AB8F41F8B8@gmail.com> <4A581527-6AD7-4092-9FC6-D9BD71E43C74@mac-access.net> <44775017-38FC-4B1A-B0BC-2E86C 73B3AC3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7721E6F4-DE75-498D-B344-BF53673BB36C@mac-access.net> Hello Colin On 27 Feb 2011, at 10:47, Colin M wrote: ? I presume it's the same one because it's the only Iweb update I've had as far as I know! Its differently the only one this year! So I got it after you and I wonder if Nic got it as well! Since his post! How frequently do you have software updates set to check? Ours check daily. But don't get excited about the update it really doesn't seem any different. Lynne From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 11:12:22 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:12:22 +0100 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <7721E6F4-DE75-498D-B344-BF53673BB36C@mac-access.net> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <977837C7-11E6-4C27-AC9B-34399845BBBE@mac-access.net> <7ED5A7C6-892B-4DC1-8F48-81F67001FA0B@gmail.com> <435BC32F-DDF5-48A6-8C18-44AB8F41F8B8@gmail.com> <4A581527-6AD7-4092-9FC6-D9BD71E43C74@mac-access.net> <44775017-38FC-4B1A-B0BC-2E86C 73B3AC3@gmail.com> <7721E6F4-DE75-498D-B344-BF53673BB36C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi! The update doesn't really add anything. There's support for a few compatibility problems I think, but that's about it. Nothing major that would address accessibility in the slightest, and I'm wondering if we'll see it. Reards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Feb 27, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Colin > > On 27 Feb 2011, at 10:47, Colin M wrote: > > ? I presume it's the same one because it's the only Iweb update I've had as far as I know! > Its differently the only one this year! > So I got it after you and I wonder if Nic got it as well! > Since his post! > > How frequently do you have software updates set to check? Ours check daily. But don't get excited about the update it really doesn't seem any different. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 27 11:21:01 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:21:01 +0000 Subject: iTunes on iPad Message-ID: <0691BCF4-1CCC-4C9F-AEEE-C5FF5993CCAD@mac-access.net> Hello everybody OK, I just got around hto having a little play with this. How do you select what's already on your iPad to play? All I'm seeing at the moment are heaps and heaps of ads from Apple for music and movies and things to buy. But I would like to play a movie that is already there, as I can on the Mac. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 27 11:23:49 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:23:49 +0000 Subject: iWeb In-Reply-To: References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <977837C7-11E6-4C27-AC9B-34399845BBBE@mac-access.net> <7ED5A7C6-892B-4DC1-8F48-81F67001FA0B@gmail.com> <435BC32F-DDF5-48A6-8C18-44AB8F41F8B8@gmail.com> <4A581527-6AD7-4092-9FC6-D9BD71E43C74@mac-access.net> <44775017-38FC-4B1A-B0BC-2E86C 73B3AC3@gmail.com> <7721E6F4-DE75-498D-B344-BF53673BB36C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Nic On 27 Feb 2011, at 11:12, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: ? The update doesn't really add anything. There's support for a few compatibility problems I think, but that's about it. Nothing major that would address accessibility in the slightest, and I'm wondering if we'll see it. iWeb looks like a nice tool but I refuse to use it until Apple addresses the accessibility issues. yes; I can use it without them being fixed; but that isn't the point. Lynne From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sun Feb 27 11:34:28 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:34:28 +0000 Subject: OSX 7 In-Reply-To: <7721E6F4-DE75-498D-B344-BF53673BB36C@mac-access.net> References: <23324E9E4CB649F68944BA49D1CF6262@SamsungNC10> <166C82EC-8699-4F1B-8098-68B67120B0DC@gmail.com> <679C21C2-BD1B-44F0-895F-6F1F103250DE@mac-access.net> <34BFC69C-4B80-469A-9285-3454E957658F@computing.dcu.ie> <8316A007-3259-4574-B889-47992CC950F3@mac-access.net> <579D714F-D8CD-4088-A3D0-CAC4031C9E4A@mac-access.net> <8A4B75F3-F948-4E94-A77A-433D67207710@mac-access.net> <5B643A57-F1D1-44BF-A7A5-133A66A8F338@computing.dcu.ie> <03B35795-1524-491A-9D28-29FAEB471D1B@mac-access.net> <2B4C69C7-03E6-4E90-8D56-2AB008A64A85@gmail.com> <977837C7-11E6-4C27-AC9B-34399845BBBE@mac-access.net> <7ED5A7C6-892B-4DC1-8F48-81F67001FA0B@gmail.com> <435BC32F-DDF5-48A6-8C18-44AB8F41F8B8@gmail.com> <4A581527-6AD7-4092-9FC6-D9BD71E43C74@mac-access.net> <44775017-38FC-4B1A-B0BC-2E86C 73B3AC3@gmail.com> <7721E6F4-DE75-498D-B344-BF53673BB36C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne! Ah I thought mine was on daily but it wasn't [ it is now] Thanks Colin PS. well bcc seems to work! no more rejection yipy! :] Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 27 Feb 2011, at 11:09, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Colin > > On 27 Feb 2011, at 10:47, Colin M wrote: > > ? I presume it's the same one because it's the only Iweb update I've had as far as I know! > Its differently the only one this year! > So I got it after you and I wonder if Nic got it as well! > Since his post! > > How frequently do you have software updates set to check? Ours check daily. But don't get excited about the update it really doesn't seem any different. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 27 12:49:16 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 02:49:16 -1000 Subject: iTunes on iPad In-Reply-To: <0691BCF4-1CCC-4C9F-AEEE-C5FF5993CCAD@mac-access.net> References: <0691BCF4-1CCC-4C9F-AEEE-C5FF5993CCAD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, On the iPad your synced music, audiobooks, and podcast content are available from the "iPod" app, and your synced movies and videos are available from the "Videos" app. The "iTunes" app gives you access to the iTunes Store to purchase new music or video content, just as the "App Store" app gives you access to purchasing new apps. It works this way on your iPhone, too. On the iPod Touch, the "Music" app has the same function as the "iPod" app. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 27, 2011, at 01:21, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > OK, I just got around hto having a little play with this. How do you select what's already on your iPad to play? All I'm seeing at the moment are heaps and heaps of ads from Apple for music and movies and things to buy. > > But I would like to play a movie that is already there, as I can on the Mac. > > Lynne > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Feb 27 14:08:50 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:08:50 +0000 Subject: new apps on the i-phone Message-ID: <4d6a5a20.2191d80a.48ef.6e59@mx.google.com> yesterday i downloaded and installed skype on my i-phone via the skype and i-store websites using safari on the i-phone. however for me to be able to launch the app i seem to have to do a search for it to be able to find it. before i did a search and managed to locate it i thought it wasn't there when i turned my phone off last night and back on again this morning. how do i get the app listed on the home screen? i presume that is what i need to do to be able to launch it easily. at the moment i am only seeing skype when i press the home button and type skype or the first few letters to be able to locate it. From khwicca at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 14:12:15 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:12:15 -0500 Subject: Setting up my DVD drive for the first time In-Reply-To: <9DAAA48C-AC88-4F0D-B100-85C6BCFA1B21@mac.com> References: <9DAAA48C-AC88-4F0D-B100-85C6BCFA1B21@mac.com> Message-ID: Thank you so very much for that info. Maybe after a few more years of learning, I'll have an answer to someone's question. No one should hold their breath. (grin) Kristeen On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Kristeen, > > Your DVD drive should be set to region 1, which is for the U.S. and Canada. Users in Europe would set the region code to 2. Most DVD drives are set to only allow you to change to 5 different region settings (that includes your original selection), before locking you in to the last entered region. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:52, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> I put a DVD in my drive and, because this is the first time I've ever tried to play a DVD, the computer is asking me to choose my region. Problem is, the regions only give a number from 1 through 8 with seven missing. I don't know which number to choose. I'm wondering if any one can help me. What number would it want for Louisville Kentucky? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Kristeen >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 14:30:51 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:30:51 -0500 Subject: new apps on the i-phone In-Reply-To: <4d6a5a20.2191d80a.48ef.6e59@mx.google.com> References: <4d6a5a20.2191d80a.48ef.6e59@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4d6a601d.1d4de50a.7469.45b9@mx.google.com> Why did you not simply install it from the app store? At 09:08 AM 2/27/2011, you wrote: >yesterday i downloaded and installed skype on my i-phone via the >skype and i-store websites using safari on the i-phone. >however for me to be able to launch the app i seem to have to do a >search for it to be able to find it. >before i did a search and managed to locate it i thought it wasn't >there when i turned my phone off last night and back on again this morning. >how do i get the app listed on the home screen? >i presume that is what i need to do to be able to launch it easily. >at the moment i am only seeing skype when i press the home button >and type skype or the first few letters to be able to locate it. >_______________________________________________ > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 14:59:48 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:59:48 -0500 Subject: list of hardware key functions? Message-ID: <4d6a66e5.d44de50a.0c2d.4659@mx.google.com> Does anyone have a list of what the function keys do in hardware mode? i.e not the VoiceOver functions. thanks. kevin Kevin Barry If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something. From simon at scavendish.co.uk Sun Feb 27 16:53:30 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:53:30 +0000 Subject: Applications from app store on multiple computers Message-ID: <04341C3B-F87F-4F04-A3A0-E42350E194FC@scavendish.co.uk> Hello, I've purchase Numbers from the app store and it installed on the mac from which I had purchased it. Firstly, does anyone know what the position is if one would like to install the said purchased application on another mac in one's possession? If it is legal to install the application on more than one mac, how can I accomplish it? I can't find the actual image file in my downloads folder, nor can I locate an area in the app store that would have a list of my purchases. Many thanks, Simon From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 16:55:55 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:55:55 +0000 Subject: processed manually for developer account? Message-ID: <29D007FF-8509-4C1A-92C1-FA82B1EE212A@gmail.com> Hi does anyone know please are the developer accounts processed manually from apple? If so I guess get mine tuesday now as Sunday today From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 17:17:53 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:17:53 +0100 Subject: Applications from app store on multiple computers In-Reply-To: <04341C3B-F87F-4F04-A3A0-E42350E194FC@scavendish.co.uk> References: <04341C3B-F87F-4F04-A3A0-E42350E194FC@scavendish.co.uk> Message-ID: <402B6F7A-F8B9-49C9-8EE8-5B95573317C9@gmail.com> Hi Simon, When you download an app from the App Store, it contains a receipt. If you install it on additional Macs, you will have to authorize the application by entering your Apple ID and password. After you have completed this step, you may use it as you normally would. The App Store does not download disk image, but application files. A lot of the time, you can simply copy this to a backup location and transfer them to the Macs you would like to use them. However, if you look at your purchases, you will see a "Installed" button if it is currently installed and an "install" button if it is not installed on your Mac. These buttons do not currently perform a function, though I suspect that an updated App Store may remove and install them respectively. You can also go locate the application by searching in the App Store, then installing it if you have already purchased it previously. The download will act as a re-download and be free. This is all there is to it. I wish you luck with this. :) there was something else I wanted to add, but I forgot. I hate it when my brain leaves stuff out. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Feb 27, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Hello, > > > I've purchase Numbers from the app store and it installed on the mac from which I had purchased it. > > Firstly, does anyone know what the position is if one would like to install the said purchased application on another mac in one's possession? If it is legal to install the application on more than one mac, how can I accomplish it? I can't find the actual image file in my downloads folder, nor can I locate an area in the app store that would have a list of my purchases. > > Many thanks, Simon > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 17:21:03 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:21:03 +0100 Subject: processed manually for developer account? In-Reply-To: <29D007FF-8509-4C1A-92C1-FA82B1EE212A@gmail.com> References: <29D007FF-8509-4C1A-92C1-FA82B1EE212A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello William, yes, these are manually approved. It may happen before Tuesday. They've been known to do it on weekends, too. Sometimes it is really quick, and sometimes it takes a while. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Feb 27, 2011, at 5:55 PM, william lomas wrote: > Hi does anyone know please are the developer accounts processed manually from apple? > If so I guess get mine tuesday now as Sunday today > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Feb 27 18:08:51 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:08:51 -0600 Subject: list of hardware key functions? In-Reply-To: <4d6a66e5.d44de50a.0c2d.4659@mx.google.com> References: <4d6a66e5.d44de50a.0c2d.4659@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5007AE9E-A72D-4E13-8589-867107A69BB4@softcon.com> I'm sure there's a list somewhere, but the ones on our macbook (circa 2007) are labeled as follows: f1, brightness (down) f2 brightness (up) f3 mute f4 volume down f5 volume up f6 numlock f7 mirror display (for when you have an external monitor plugged in) and that's all. On the non-laptop computers, the function keys are set to do things too, and if you don't disable those functions, then programs won't be able to use those keys to perform functions, because the os will intercept the keys before they get to your application. I have all the function keys turned off except for f10 for dashboard. All other function key combinations are unchecked in keyboard and mouse, so my applications (especially the ones I write and use in terminal) can do what they need to do via function keys. hth. From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Feb 27 18:31:35 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:31:35 +0000 Subject: Super Duper! question Message-ID: <3A4CBB60-BB96-44FE-8944-4D248E19B6CD@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, before I partitioned my iMac 320 GB hard disk I made a Super Duper! copy of the disk on an external drive. I then partitioned the 320 GB reducing the size of the Snow Leopard partition to 210 GB. Do I now need to do another Super Duper! backup or if the worse comes to the worse can I restore my existing Super Duper! backup of a 320 GB disk onto a 210 GB disk? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Feb 27 18:42:20 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:42:20 +0000 Subject: Audio book binder question Message-ID: <7EC434EA-C22C-4864-B2E6-D620A969C9A9@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I have been trying the free audio book binder APP from the MAC APP store on my iMac. I tried it on an audio book which was originally 79 MP3 files of about 7 MB each. I joined these into 8 chapters with about 10 tracks per chapter. I had to do this starting from the end of the book and joining the tracks in groups of 10 until I reached the start of the book and I then renumbered the chapters. that all worked fine. the resultant audio book comprised 2 M4B files. I then synced the book onto my iPod Nano Generation 6. that also worked fine with all 8 chapters listed each about 1 hour and 30 minutes long. The only problem is that if I switch to some other audio book and then back to the above audio book the above audio book resumes playing from the start of the book. the layout on the iPod Nano is the same as for an audio book from audible with the exception that there is no "resume" button, and hence no way to replay from where I last left off. I checked with the options on itunes for this book and the options are indeed set to remember current position. Any suggestions? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Feb 27 18:51:42 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:51:42 +0000 Subject: time machine question Message-ID: Hello, I have a 1000 GB external hard disk which I use for time machine and Super Duper! backups of my 320 GB iMac hard disk. this disk has been in use for some time and now only has about 140 GB of free space. I would like to partition the disk so that it can be used for Super Duper! backups of another partition of my iMac hard disk. I am thinking of perhaps a 700 / 300 GB split. to do that I would need to remove some of the time Machine backups to create more free space on the disk. How do I do that? Also would it take forever to partition such a large external disk - presumably many files have to be relocated to shrink the current data into a smaller partition. Any recommendations? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Feb 27 18:52:15 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:52:15 +0000 Subject: iTunes on iPad In-Reply-To: References: <0691BCF4-1CCC-4C9F-AEEE-C5FF5993CCAD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <66CEC46F-F16D-4F49-9BB0-0ABB4045BF30@mac-access.net> Hello Esther On 27 Feb 2011, at 12:49, Esther wrote: ? On the iPad your synced music, audiobooks, and podcast content are available from the "iPod" app, and your synced movies and videos are available from the "Videos" app. The "iTunes" app gives you access to the iTunes Store to purchase new music or video content, just as the "App Store" app gives you access to purchasing new apps. It works this way on your iPhone, too. On the iPod Touch, the "Music" app has the same function as the "iPod" app. How stupid of me! I'm really embarrassed that I asked such a silly question; my only excuse is unfamiliarity. I have never used the iPad to play movies before. I missed this because obviously we see all of our music and the playlists we have created in the "iPod" app on the iPad and I forgot that Movies must be exclusive. But I should have realised; so thank you for correcting me. Lynne From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Feb 27 19:06:11 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:06:11 +0000 Subject: moving apps to the home screen Message-ID: <4d6a9fd1.9009d80a.0218.5b80@mx.google.com> how do i move an app to the home screen of the i-phone? i went to the wwwddskypeddcom website, went to the link to download skype for the i-phone, it did mention something about the app store so obviously it downloaded from the app store so all i need to do now it is running is to move it so i actually see it on the home screen instead of having to do a search all the time i want to run it. this is my first time dealing with new apps that have been downloaded to the i-phone. From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 27 19:11:52 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:11:52 -1000 Subject: list of hardware key functions? In-Reply-To: <5007AE9E-A72D-4E13-8589-867107A69BB4@softcon.com> References: <4d6a66e5.d44de50a.0c2d.4659@mx.google.com> <5007AE9E-A72D-4E13-8589-867107A69BB4@softcon.com> Message-ID: <61A34C97-164C-47F9-9AFD-96B05C79106A@mac.com> Hi Kevin, I'll add to Travis' list by pasting from a recent post I answered about Apple Wireless Keyboard F-keys. They switched the Function key positions for volume control the same time that they removed the numlock key, so after November 2007 all the Mac laptop keyboards look like the current Apple Wireless Keyboard layouts, with "media control keys" for the both volume control and forward/rewind or play/pause. Apparently on the previous generation MacBook Pros the F5 and F6 keys (not listed here) control keyboard dimming and raising brightness (for the backlit keyboards). Everyone else can use this as a list for the Apple Wireless (Bluetooth) keyboards that will work with their iDevices. (The Esc key also does the two finger "scrub" gesture that moves you back up a level or to a previous page.) I'll run through the top row of keys on the Apple Wireless Keyboard in order: Esc - the escape key; can be used to dismiss alternative spelling options when you are in autotext mode on the iPhone. On the Mac, escape can be used as a quick way to cancel out of dialog windows F1 - lower brightness; works for the iPhone, but you're not likely to use this F2 - raise brightness; also works for the iPhone screen F3 - (Mac only function) Expos? key; Expos? is a visual analog of the Mac with VoiceOver's window chooser menu options and is used in situations where you have multiple windows open from different apps, and want to quickly switch between them without having to switch through each one sequentially. In both Windows and on the Mac you can view files, folders, and applications in either list view mode or icon view mode. Expos? is a kind of icon view mode for your multiple windows, where the entire screen is used to display icons of all open windows simultaneously. (This can be puzzling as heck for the VoiceOver user, since the system is waiting for you to move focus to one of these window icons to select by clicking on it, and the clues are purely visual.) F4 - (Mac only function) Dashboard key; brings up/dismisses the Dashboard where you can select and activate widgets. Widgets are simple GUI-interface programs that do not need to be compiled, and typically do things like check weather, currency conversions, etc. (If this sounds a bit like iPhone apps, there are a number of widgets that were ported to iPhone apps) F5 - (no hardware function) F6 - (no hardware function) F7 through F12 - media function keys; work for all A/V apps on the Mac (third party as well a Apple native apps), and work with iPod, Videos, and Music apps on the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad (note: names of apps differ according to the device you use -- the "iPod" app on and iPhone is "Music" on an iPod Touch) F7 - rewind (or previous chapter in a chapterized audiobook or podcast) F8 - play/pause F9 - fast forward (or next chapter in a chapterized audiobook or podcast) F10 - mute F11 - lower volume F12 - raise volume Eject - Show/Hide (virtual) keyboard on an iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch Cheers, Esther From simon at scavendish.co.uk Sun Feb 27 19:12:50 2011 From: simon at scavendish.co.uk (Simon Cavendish) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:12:50 +0000 Subject: Applications from app store on multiple computers In-Reply-To: <402B6F7A-F8B9-49C9-8EE8-5B95573317C9@gmail.com> References: <04341C3B-F87F-4F04-A3A0-E42350E194FC@scavendish.co.uk> <402B6F7A-F8B9-49C9-8EE8-5B95573317C9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Nic, Thank you so much. THis is very helpful. I've missed the "install" buttons. With best wishes Simon On 27 Feb 2011, at 17:17, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Simon, > > When you download an app from the App Store, it contains a receipt. If you install it on additional Macs, you will have to authorize the application by entering your Apple ID and password. After you have completed this step, you may use it as you normally would. > > The App Store does not download disk image, but application files. A lot of the time, you can simply copy this to a backup location and transfer them to the Macs you would like to use them. However, if you look at your purchases, you will see a "Installed" button if it is currently installed and an "install" button if it is not installed on your Mac. These buttons do not currently perform a function, though I suspect that an updated App Store may remove and install them respectively. You can also go locate the application by searching in the App Store, then installing it if you have already purchased it previously. The download will act as a re-download and be free. > > This is all there is to it. I wish you luck with this. :) there was something else I wanted to add, but I forgot. I hate it when my brain leaves stuff out. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Feb 27, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> I've purchase Numbers from the app store and it installed on the mac from which I had purchased it. >> >> Firstly, does anyone know what the position is if one would like to install the said purchased application on another mac in one's possession? If it is legal to install the application on more than one mac, how can I accomplish it? I can't find the actual image file in my downloads folder, nor can I locate an area in the app store that would have a list of my purchases. >> >> Many thanks, Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris at mysticplace.info Sun Feb 27 19:57:21 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:57:21 -0500 Subject: moving apps to the home screen In-Reply-To: <4d6a9fd1.9009d80a.0218.5b80@mx.google.com> References: <4d6a9fd1.9009d80a.0218.5b80@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20110227145721.24A5.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Hi, Are you sure the ap is not on another page on your phone? I'm sure there are easier ways to move from page to page, but here is how I do it. 1. Place your finger in the lower left corner and find the "phone button." 2. flick to the left. You would hear page X of Y where X is the current page and Y is the total number of pages. Double tap and you'll be on page 2. Then explore the screen. I haven't quite mastered moving things from page to page. I have done it but with practice I'll get better. On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:06:11 +0000 michael weaver wrote: > how do i move an app to the home screen of the i-phone? > i went to the wwwddskypeddcom website, went to the link to > download skype for the i-phone, it did mention something about > the app store so obviously it downloaded from the app store so > all i need to do now it is running is to move it so i actually > see it on the home screen instead of having to do a search all > the time i want to run it. > this is my first time dealing with new apps that have been > downloaded to the i-phone. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 20:22:43 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:22:43 -0800 Subject: time machine question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I believe it will remove some back ups when space needs freeing. it will remove the oldest back ups. I'd wait until then. Good luck. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I have a 1000 GB external hard disk which I use for time machine and Super Duper! backups of my 320 GB iMac hard disk. this disk has been in use for some time and now only has about 140 GB of free space. I would like to partition the disk so that it can be used for Super Duper! backups of another partition of my iMac hard disk. I am thinking of perhaps a 700 / 300 GB split. to do that I would need to remove some of the time Machine backups to create more free space on the disk. How do I do that? > > Also would it take forever to partition such a large external disk - presumably many files have to be relocated to shrink the current data into a smaller partition. > > Any recommendations? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Feb 27 20:55:40 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:55:40 +0000 Subject: Fwd: Audio book binder question References: <7EC434EA-C22C-4864-B2E6-D620A969C9A9@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <97D55F34-62C9-4DDC-974A-48C4639354CD@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, Looking at the M4B files produced by audio book binder I see that they are labeled in Finder and in itunes as "protected audio file" for some reason. Presumably that means they are read only files and so the iPod Nano cannot update them to save the current position. So I wonder whey they are protected (the original audio book is not protected in any way) and what I can do if anything to make them read / write files. Best regards.... Paul Hopewell write to { Begin forwarded message: > From: Paul Hopewell > Date: 27 February 2011 18:42:20 GMT > To: mac-access > Subject: Audio book binder question > > Hello, > I have been trying the free audio book binder APP from the MAC APP store on my iMac. I tried it on an audio book which was originally 79 MP3 files of about 7 MB each. I joined these into 8 chapters with about 10 tracks per chapter. I had to do this starting from the end of the book and joining the tracks in groups of 10 until I reached the start of the book and I then renumbered the chapters. that all worked fine. the resultant audio book comprised 2 M4B files. > > I then synced the book onto my iPod Nano Generation 6. that also worked fine with all 8 chapters listed each about 1 hour and 30 minutes long. The only problem is that if I switch to some other audio book and then back to the above audio book the above audio book resumes playing from the start of the book. the layout on the iPod Nano is the same as for an audio book from audible with the exception that there is no "resume" button, and hence no way to replay from where I last left off. > > I checked with the options on itunes for this book and the options are indeed set to remember current position. > > Any suggestions? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Feb 27 21:15:51 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:15:51 +0000 Subject: moving apps to the home screen Message-ID: <4d6abe35.6686d80a.0e52.7872@mx.google.com> hi chris! you are absolutely right. my i-phone said page 1 of 2 when i flicked left after navigating to the phone icon. i double tapped, got to the next page and skype was the very first item spoken. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: Chris G To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Date sent: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:57:21 -0500 >Subject: Re: moving apps to the home screen >Hi, >Are you sure the ap is not on another page on your phone? >I'm sure there are easier ways to move from page to page, but here is >how I do it. >1. Place your finger in the lower left corner and find the "phone >button." >2. flick to the left. You would hear page X of Y where X is the >current page and Y is the total number of pages. Double tap and you'll >be on page 2. Then explore the screen. >I haven't quite mastered moving things from page to page. I have done >it but with practice I'll get better. >On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:06:11 +0000 >michael weaver wrote: >> how do i move an app to the home screen of the i-phone? >> i went to the wwwddskypeddcom website, went to the link to >> download skype for the i-phone, it did mention something about >> the app store so obviously it downloaded from the app store so >> all i need to do now it is running is to move it so i actually >> see it on the home screen instead of having to do a search all >> the time i want to run it. >> this is my first time dealing with new apps that have been >> downloaded to the i-phone. >> _______________________________________________ >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> - >The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. >http://www.mysticplace.info >_______________________________________________ >To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > References: <4d6abe35.6686d80a.0e52.7872@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <671531E8-4BC0-47A3-9A58-B9110E6DB2A6@gmail.com> Hello michael/chris, To move to the next page on the home screen or on apps like iBooks, Weather, etc just do a three finger swipe to the left (just as if you were turning a page in a book). Three finger swipe to the right moves to the previous page. HTH, Andr? On Feb 27, 2011, at 9:15 PM, michael weaver wrote: > hi chris! > you are absolutely right. > my i-phone said page 1 of 2 when i flicked left after navigating to the phone icon. > i double tapped, got to the next page and skype was the very first item spoken. > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Chris G > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Date sent: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:57:21 -0500 >> Subject: Re: moving apps to the home screen > >> Hi, > >> Are you sure the ap is not on another page on your phone? > >> I'm sure there are easier ways to move from page to page, but > here is >> how I do it. > >> 1. Place your finger in the lower left corner and find the > "phone >> button." > >> 2. flick to the left. You would hear page X of Y where X is the >> current page and Y is the total number of pages. Double tap and > you'll >> be on page 2. Then explore the screen. > >> I haven't quite mastered moving things from page to page. I have > done >> it but with practice I'll get better. > > > >> On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:06:11 +0000 >> michael weaver wrote: > >>> how do i move an app to the home screen of the i-phone? >>> i went to the wwwddskypeddcom website, went to the link to >>> download skype for the i-phone, it did mention something about >>> the app store so obviously it downloaded from the app store so >>> all i need to do now it is running is to move it so i actually >>> see it on the home screen instead of having to do a search all >>> the time i want to run it. >>> this is my first time dealing with new apps that have been >>> downloaded to the i-phone. From n0oxy at charter.net Mon Feb 28 00:42:44 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:42:44 -0600 Subject: new apps on the i-phone In-Reply-To: <4d6a5a20.2191d80a.48ef.6e59@mx.google.com> References: <4d6a5a20.2191d80a.48ef.6e59@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <66671D7A-570F-4E24-960F-FC49BA38970F@charter.net> When you install apps, they will appear as the last app on the last page of your home screen, they don't automatically show up in alphabetical order. To fix this, go in to settings, choose general, and choose reset, then choose home screen. This will put all your apps in alphabetical order. On Feb 27, 2011, at 8:08 AM, michael weaver wrote: > yesterday i downloaded and installed skype on my i-phone via the skype and i-store websites using safari on the i-phone. > however for me to be able to launch the app i seem to have to do a search for it to be able to find it. > before i did a search and managed to locate it i thought it wasn't there when i turned my phone off last night and back on again this morning. > how do i get the app listed on the home screen? > i presume that is what i need to do to be able to launch it easily. > at the moment i am only seeing skype when i press the home button and type skype or the first few letters to be able to locate it. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Mon Feb 28 10:20:15 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:20:15 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <2EFF669A-BB81-465E-AA56-89A7618B3A9C@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. 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Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From billd at insightbb.com Mon Feb 28 15:35:09 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:35:09 -0500 Subject: setting up pass words in the e-mail program on the I phone Message-ID: <3D245093-A789-4352-9A3F-2718C0CB2B07@insightbb.com> Hello, I was exploring the e-mail program on the I Phone today. when I tried to set up a pass word i got a message saying I needed to put in the pass word. i went to settings then mail. I put in the pass word from the server. what i was wondering is, do you put in the pass word from the server or my roughter also has a pass word so which do you put into the I phone? Thank you in advice. Bill Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Mon Feb 28 15:43:06 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:43:06 -0500 Subject: setting up account in I Tunes Message-ID: Hello, for the last few days I have been trying to set up an account in I tunes. I must be leaving some information out or maybe i am putting the information in the wrong places. but I talked to some one at the apple store and they said when I come out they would help me set up the account. that seems to be one less problem not to have to worry about. I figure after that it will be a lot easier to register my computer. I talked to one place and the person told me to register my computer and set up my account in I tunes he charges 95 dollars an hour and it would take about 2 hours. I decided to look other places and the person at the apple said he would help me set up my I phone and once I had my account set up then all I would have to do is log in to my computer on I tunes. Does this sound like I am on the wright track? Bill Deatherageap?le store said they would do From oyvind at lode.is Mon Feb 28 15:49:05 2011 From: oyvind at lode.is (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8yvind_Lode?=) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:49:05 +0000 Subject: setting up pass words in the e-mail program on the I phone In-Reply-To: <3D245093-A789-4352-9A3F-2718C0CB2B07@insightbb.com> References: <3D245093-A789-4352-9A3F-2718C0CB2B07@insightbb.com> Message-ID: The email app wants the password for the email server. On my iPhone I've configured 2 Exchange accounts (my work email account and my private/home account) To set it up type in your email address, username, password and domain if required and then the mail server URL. It should be similar for IMAP and POP accounts as well. By roughter, do you mean your router? If yes, you don't need to enter the router password to access your e-mail. However you may need the router password to setup a WIFI connection. Your router password is most likely the WPA/WPA2 passphrase as well. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Deatherage Sent: 28. februar 2011 16:35 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: setting up pass words in the e-mail program on the I phone Hello, I was exploring the e-mail program on the I Phone today. when I tried to set up a pass word i got a message saying I needed to put in the pass word. i went to settings then mail. I put in the pass word from the server. what i was wondering is, do you put in the pass word from the server or my roughter also has a pass word so which do you put into the I phone? Thank you in advice. Bill Deatherage _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 16:02:35 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:02:35 +0000 Subject: Itunes oddities Message-ID: HI has anyone else please noted this? My sister on my old macbook, is trying to import music she donwloaded. The problem is, if she has a folder of songs they are not grouping together as one album in itunes, but rather each track is showing it seems, as its own album, can anyone explain why this is so? If I download music and import the folder in to my itunes on the mac, it has always worked correctly for me and shown the artist and then the album and then all the songs on that album are displayed and are able to be played regards WIll From billd at insightbb.com Mon Feb 28 15:59:59 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:59:59 -0500 Subject: setting up pass words in the e-mail program on the I phone In-Reply-To: References: <3D245093-A789-4352-9A3F-2718C0CB2B07@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <1BFC3548-2128-44BD-B04E-CADE636D8FFF@insightbb.com> Thanks for the information Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2011, at 10:49 AM, ?yvind Lode wrote: > The email app wants the password for the email server. > On my iPhone I've configured 2 Exchange accounts (my work email account and my private/home account) > To set it up type in your email address, username, password and domain if required and then the mail server URL. > It should be similar for IMAP and POP accounts as well. > > By roughter, do you mean your router? > If yes, you don't need to enter the router password to access your e-mail. > However you may need the router password to setup a WIFI connection. > Your router password is most likely the WPA/WPA2 passphrase as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Deatherage > Sent: 28. februar 2011 16:35 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: setting up pass words in the e-mail program on the I phone > > Hello, > I was exploring the e-mail program on the I Phone today. when I tried to set up a pass word i got a message saying I needed to put in the pass word. i went to settings then mail. I put in the pass word from the server. what i was wondering is, do you put in the pass word from the server or my roughter also has a pass word so which do you put into the I phone? > Thank you in advice. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From abreier at kc.rr.com Mon Feb 28 16:46:26 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:46:26 -0600 Subject: setting up account in I Tunes References: Message-ID: <37939429F34448B8919143526985F62B@andrea78cdd59a> Yes, just have the apple store guy helpyou. I bet the trouble you are having is getting your birth date combo boxes selected. Once your account is setup, you will not have this to deal with on your computer. I swear, if you could get everything setup and then if you knew a friend that would be willing to look over your form and make sure you had everything, it would only take maybe 30 seconds to finish it up. And one other thing there might be times that iTunes wants you to verify your billing. All this entails is that you review all of your billing information, type in your security code and verify your county where you live. My best regards to you all, Andrea M. Breier Spread the laughter Share the cheer Let's be happy While we're here! NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Deatherage" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:43 AM Subject: setting up account in I Tunes > Hello, > for the last few days I have been trying to set up an account in I tunes. > I must be leaving some information out or maybe i am putting the > information in the wrong places. but I talked to some one at the apple > store and they said when I come out they would help me set up the account. > that seems to be one less problem not to have to worry about. I figure > after that it will be a lot easier to register my computer. I talked to > one place and the person told me to register my computer and set up my > account in I tunes he charges 95 dollars an hour and it would take about 2 > hours. I decided to look other places and the person at the apple said he > would help me set up my I phone and once I had my account set up then all > I would have to do is log in to my computer on I tunes. > Does this sound like I am on the wright track? > Bill Deatherageap?le store said they would do > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Mon Feb 28 16:49:31 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:49:31 +0000 Subject: Itunes oddities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9485060B-3DAA-4E41-B62A-CBAE2A1BB42C@gmail.com> Hi Will! Are the tracks in question like Black Eyed Peas feat someone! Or is it all the same artist? I had some albums that was the whole album but say one or three tracks that had made there own albums! The way I had to sort them was in info to make it a compilation or in some I removed the other artist leaving the main one only! That took that track back into the main album! Or maybe the Itunes is set to show artist's instead of albums or something! hth Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 28 Feb 2011, at 16:02, william lomas wrote: > HI has anyone else please noted this? > > My sister on my old macbook, is trying to import music she downloaded. > The problem is, if she has a folder of songs they are not grouping together as one album in itunes, but rather each track is showing it seems, as its own album, can anyone explain why this is so? > If I download music and import the folder in to my itunes on the mac, it has always worked correctly for me and shown the artist and then the album and then all the songs on that album are displayed and are able to be played > regards WIll > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Mon Feb 28 16:57:48 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:57:48 -0500 Subject: setting up pass words in the e-mail program on the I phone In-Reply-To: References: <3D245093-A789-4352-9A3F-2718C0CB2B07@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <1D69F98D-0856-494D-860D-D02BF4485096@insightbb.com> Hello, Thanks for the information. I think I now have things working . Bill Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Mon Feb 28 17:00:55 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:00:55 -0500 Subject: setting up account in I Tunes In-Reply-To: <37939429F34448B8919143526985F62B@andrea78cdd59a> References: <37939429F34448B8919143526985F62B@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <790F0A56-0F53-4ADC-A9D5-7D7132F0BC49@insightbb.com> I am getting there slowly. Bill DeatherageThanks Andrea. From gordon at mac-access.net Mon Feb 28 18:16:10 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:16:10 +0000 Subject: Plauyimg moviers on the iPad Message-ID: <37ADFBBF-002C-4C16-8786-0ECF65267D48@mac-access.net> Hi all Lynne asked about this the other night. On our iPad we are not seeing any "Video" applicaation anywhere to play our movies. This is most strange, because I know you can play them like that. I just don't get why there is no video app listed in a three page list of apps. Gordon From juanitatighan at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 18:17:07 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:17:07 -0500 Subject: Plauyimg moviers on the iPad In-Reply-To: <37ADFBBF-002C-4C16-8786-0ECF65267D48@mac-access.net> References: <37ADFBBF-002C-4C16-8786-0ECF65267D48@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2BEDB2A3-2848-4361-8D7C-D63C42E047C2@gmail.com> Perhaps it got moved to your dock, or somehow got put into a folder. I know it's on mine. If all else fails, I suppose you can do a restore. Jane On Feb 28, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all > > Lynne asked about this the other night. On our iPad we are not seeing any "Video" applicaation anywhere to play our movies. This is most strange, because I know you can play them like that. > > I just don't get why there is no video app listed in a three page list of apps. > > Gordon > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Mon Feb 28 18:29:14 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:29:14 +0000 Subject: Videos on iPad, please ignore Message-ID: Hi all Please ignore my original message. Lynne spotted the videos app hiden away somehow and now we have it working. Lynne is pleased we can now wtch my favourite movie tonight without having to have a laptop or monitor. Gordon From abreier at kc.rr.com Mon Feb 28 18:59:21 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:59:21 -0600 Subject: Plauyimg moviers on the iPad References: <37ADFBBF-002C-4C16-8786-0ECF65267D48@mac-access.net> <2BEDB2A3-2848-4361-8D7C-D63C42E047C2@gmail.com> Message-ID: If you click on a link or something that requires the video app wouldn't it just play it? Then if it doesn't play wouldn't that mean that the app is missing? My mother has an iPad and she can't play videos either. I posted to the list and never got anything back. My best regards to you all, Andrea M. Breier Spread the laughter Share the cheer Let's be happy While we're here! NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Plauyimg moviers on the iPad > Perhaps it got moved to your dock, or somehow got put into a folder. I > know it's on mine. > > If all else fails, I suppose you can do a restore. > > Jane > > > On Feb 28, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Lynne asked about this the other night. On our iPad we are not seeing >> any "Video" applicaation anywhere to play our movies. This is most >> strange, because I know you can play them like that. >> >> I just don't get why there is no video app listed in a three page list of >> apps. >> >> Gordon >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 28 19:08:18 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:08:18 -1000 Subject: Audio book binder question In-Reply-To: <97D55F34-62C9-4DDC-974A-48C4639354CD@hopewell.org.uk> References: <7EC434EA-C22C-4864-B2E6-D620A969C9A9@hopewell.org.uk> <97D55F34-62C9-4DDC-974A-48C4639354CD@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Paul, I can't suggest what might be the issue with your Audiobook conversion with Audiobook Binder and the Sixth generation Nano, but the message that Kind is "Protected AAC Audio file" that you get reported when you do Command-I ("Get Info") to read the summary info page for your M4B tracks is not likely to be the problem. This status will be reported for any M4B tracks in iTunes. For example, if you ripped CD tracks to AAC format, producing a file with M4A extension, then delete such a track from your iTunes library, rename the extension from M4A to M4B, and add it back to your iTunes library, you'll find the same status reported ("Kind: Protected AAC Audio file") on the summary page when you do your Command-I "Get Info". This message is historical; when the first audiobooks were handled in iTunes, the recognized formats were either Audible files, which ended in ".aa" file types, or iTunes Store versions of these books, with files which had names that ended in ".m4b" file types. It turns out that the ".m4b" format files used for audiobooks is similar to the ".m4a" format files used for encoding music, although there is encoding within the file and its headers that enforces the "Fairplay" copy protection protection that iTunes uses. So, in early iTunes installations, simply renaming the file extension from ".m4a" to ".m4b" and adding such a file to iTunes would cause it to be classified as an audiobook, and also be identified as "Protected". (This is a simplified version -- it worked this way on Windows iTunes versions, because Windows only uses the file extension, while Macs keep track of the program that created the file to determine whether a file with ".m4a" extension opens by default in iTunes, Amadeus Pro, QuickTime, etc. Apple later adjusted the way iTunes on the Mac worked so that a file with ".m4b" extension that was added to the library would also get classified as an audiobook, just as for iTunes on Windows. Still later, was the separate addition of options that would allow bookmarking ("Remember Playback Position") and keeping out of shuffle play, as well as setting media kind to "Audiobook" (all settings on the "Options" tab of "Get Info" with Command-I). These settings no longer required an AAC file (M4A or M4B) type to work -- they could be applied to MP3 files, for example. However, support for "chapter marker" navigation does require an AAC file format, since only this file format had this structure built into the original file definitions. (This applies specifically to Apple's implementation of AAC files). Audiobook Binder will have converted your MP3 files to AAC files and then made the extension type "M4B". It will also have chapterized the resulting joined segments by placing markers at the original "join" positions. The ability to hold a bookmark and resume play there depends on the device performance, as well as the file structure. It's possible that a file will play correctly as a bookmarkable audiobook in iTunes on your computer, and not on an iPod. Since I don't have a sixth generation Nano, I can't do any testing. Here are some general thoughts though: can you force the device to re-sync an updated iTunes database? This may not apply, but in earlier generation devices, if an audiobook were in the database as an "M4A" file, and the only change made to it was that it was renamed with an "M4B" extension, when it was synced back to an iPod the iTunes database file on that device would only update when there was an actual change in data -- like track name, playing time, etc. Changing the file name, adding a comment field, adding album art, etc. could all force the database on the device to update. As I recall, sometimes just adding a new track that was not even related to the audiobook could make the database resync, although it would certainly re-read the entries for an audiobook if you changed one of the entries (even by adding a "comment" field remark with "Get Info"). On old nanos, this was enough to get an audiobook that was newly made "bookmarkable" recognized as such. On the old iPod Shuffles, the ability to correctly hold bookmarks was something that eventually had to be fixed with a firmware update. Certain factors like the length of the audiobook file to be bookmarked or the complexity of the recording importing settings (e.g. 44.1kHz -- CD quality), could make the problem worse, since bookmarking requires that the device hold part of the track in device memory to work. What import settings were used for the conversion to "M4A"? It may be that the Audiobook Binder program leaves the AAC settings at their default values, which are now set at "iTunes Plus" quality for music (e.g. 256 kbps stereo bit rate and 44.1kHz sampling, shown on the Summary tab when you use Command-I to "Get Info"). (These values used to be set lower in earlier generations of iTunes when Audiobook Binder was first created). Sorry not to have more suggestions. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:55, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > Looking at the M4B files produced by audio book binder I see that they are labeled in Finder and in itunes as "protected audio file" for some reason. Presumably that means they are read only files and so the iPod Nano cannot update them to save the current position. > So I wonder whey they are protected (the original audio book is not protected in any way) and what I can do if anything to make them read / write files. > Best regards.... > > Paul Hopewell write to { > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Paul Hopewell >> Date: 27 February 2011 18:42:20 GMT >> To: mac-access >> Subject: Audio book binder question >> >> Hello, >> I have been trying the free audio book binder APP from the MAC APP store on my iMac. I tried it on an audio book which was originally 79 MP3 files of about 7 MB each. I joined these into 8 chapters with about 10 tracks per chapter. I had to do this starting from the end of the book and joining the tracks in groups of 10 until I reached the start of the book and I then renumbered the chapters. that all worked fine. the resultant audio book comprised 2 M4B files. >> >> I then synced the book onto my iPod Nano Generation 6. that also worked fine with all 8 chapters listed each about 1 hour and 30 minutes long. The only problem is that if I switch to some other audio book and then back to the above audio book the above audio book resumes playing from the start of the book. the layout on the iPod Nano is the same as for an audio book from audible with the exception that there is no "resume" button, and hence no way to replay from where I last left off. >> >> I checked with the options on itunes for this book and the options are indeed set to remember current position. >> >> Any suggestions? >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Feb 28 20:48:16 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:48:16 +0000 Subject: Audio book binder question In-Reply-To: References: <7EC434EA-C22C-4864-B2E6-D620A969C9A9@hopewell.org.uk> <97D55F34-62C9-4DDC-974A-48C4639354CD@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Esther, Many thanks for your reply which has solved the problem! I tried playing a bit of the book in iTunes on my iMac and then resyncing to the iPod Nano Generation 6. that did the trick and the iPod Nano now shows the "resume" button, which works as expected. Many thanks again. You are a genius! Best wishes.... Paul Hopewell On 28 Feb 2011, at 19:08, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I can't suggest what might be the issue with your Audiobook conversion with Audiobook Binder and the Sixth generation Nano, but the message that Kind is "Protected AAC Audio file" that you get reported when you do Command-I ("Get Info") to read the summary info page for your M4B tracks is not likely to be the problem. This status will be reported for any M4B tracks in iTunes. For example, if you ripped CD tracks to AAC format, producing a file with M4A extension, then delete such a track from your iTunes library, rename the extension from M4A to M4B, and add it back to your iTunes library, you'll find the same status reported ("Kind: Protected AAC Audio file") on the summary page when you do your Command-I "Get Info". > > This message is historical; when the first audiobooks were handled in iTunes, the recognized formats were either Audible files, which ended in ".aa" file types, or iTunes Store versions of these books, with files which had names that ended in ".m4b" file types. It turns out that the ".m4b" format files used for audiobooks is similar to the ".m4a" format files used for encoding music, although there is encoding within the file and its headers that enforces the "Fairplay" copy protection protection that iTunes uses. So, in early iTunes installations, simply renaming the file extension from ".m4a" to ".m4b" and adding such a file to iTunes would cause it to be classified as an audiobook, and also be identified as "Protected". (This is a simplified version -- it worked this way on Windows iTunes versions, because Windows only uses the file extension, while Macs keep track of the program that created the file to determine whether a file with ".m4a" extension opens by default in > iTunes, Amadeus Pro, QuickTime, etc. Apple later adjusted the way iTunes on the Mac worked so that a file with ".m4b" extension that was added to the library would also get classified as an audiobook, just as for iTunes on Windows. Still later, was the separate addition of options that would allow bookmarking ("Remember Playback Position") and keeping out of shuffle play, as well as setting media kind to "Audiobook" (all settings on the "Options" tab of "Get Info" with Command-I). These settings no longer required an AAC file (M4A or M4B) type to work -- they could be applied to MP3 files, for example. However, support for "chapter marker" navigation does require an AAC file format, since only this file format had this structure built into the original file definitions. (This applies specifically to Apple's implementation of AAC files). > > Audiobook Binder will have converted your MP3 files to AAC files and then made the extension type "M4B". It will also have chapterized the resulting joined segments by placing markers at the original "join" positions. The ability to hold a bookmark and resume play there depends on the device performance, as well as the file structure. It's possible that a file will play correctly as a bookmarkable audiobook in iTunes on your computer, and not on an iPod. Since I don't have a sixth generation Nano, I can't do any testing. > > Here are some general thoughts though: can you force the device to re-sync an updated iTunes database? This may not apply, but in earlier generation devices, if an audiobook were in the database as an "M4A" file, and the only change made to it was that it was renamed with an "M4B" extension, when it was synced back to an iPod the iTunes database file on that device would only update when there was an actual change in data -- like track name, playing time, etc. Changing the file name, adding a comment field, adding album art, etc. could all force the database on the device to update. As I recall, sometimes just adding a new track that was not even related to the audiobook could make the database resync, although it would certainly re-read the entries for an audiobook if you changed one of the entries (even by adding a "comment" field remark with "Get Info"). On old nanos, this was enough to get an audiobook that was newly made "bookmarkable" recognized as such. On the old > iPod Shuffles, the ability to correctly hold bookmarks was something that eventually had to be fixed with a firmware update. Certain factors like the length of the audiobook file to be bookmarked or the complexity of the recording importing settings (e.g. 44.1kHz -- CD quality), could make the problem worse, since bookmarking requires that the device hold part of the track in device memory to work. What import settings were used for the conversion to "M4A"? It may be that the Audiobook Binder program leaves the AAC settings at their default values, which are now set at "iTunes Plus" quality for music (e.g. 256 kbps stereo bit rate and 44.1kHz sampling, shown on the Summary tab when you use Command-I to "Get Info"). (These values used to be set lower in earlier generations of iTunes when Audiobook Binder was first created). > > Sorry not to have more suggestions. HTH. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:55, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> Looking at the M4B files produced by audio book binder I see that they are labeled in Finder and in itunes as "protected audio file" for some reason. Presumably that means they are read only files and so the iPod Nano cannot update them to save the current position. >> So I wonder whey they are protected (the original audio book is not protected in any way) and what I can do if anything to make them read / write files. >> Best regards.... >> >> Paul Hopewell write to { >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Paul Hopewell >>> Date: 27 February 2011 18:42:20 GMT >>> To: mac-access >>> Subject: Audio book binder question >>> >>> Hello, >>> I have been trying the free audio book binder APP from the MAC APP store on my iMac. I tried it on an audio book which was originally 79 MP3 files of about 7 MB each. I joined these into 8 chapters with about 10 tracks per chapter. I had to do this starting from the end of the book and joining the tracks in groups of 10 until I reached the start of the book and I then renumbered the chapters. that all worked fine. the resultant audio book comprised 2 M4B files. >>> >>> I then synced the book onto my iPod Nano Generation 6. that also worked fine with all 8 chapters listed each about 1 hour and 30 minutes long. The only problem is that if I switch to some other audio book and then back to the above audio book the above audio book resumes playing from the start of the book. the layout on the iPod Nano is the same as for an audio book from audible with the exception that there is no "resume" button, and hence no way to replay from where I last left off. >>> >>> I checked with the options on itunes for this book and the options are indeed set to remember current position. >>> >>> Any suggestions? >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Feb 28 20:55:19 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:55:19 -0600 Subject: setting up account in I Tunes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I strongly suggest you wipe that guy's contact information from your mind, and never never never talk to him again. Anyone who charges $95 an hour should not take 2 hours to setup a simple itunes account and register your computer. Especially since that's something you can accomplish yourself in less than 15 minutes if you had sighted assistance. This guy is trying to rip you off and then some. Let the apple store help, they won't charge you anything for it. From moopiecurran at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 21:18:54 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:18:54 -0500 Subject: Audio book binder question In-Reply-To: References: <7EC434EA-C22C-4864-B2E6-D620A969C9A9@hopewell.org.uk> <97D55F34-62C9-4DDC-974A-48C4639354CD@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi, I'm also having a problem with audiobook binder, Itunes remmembers the place I left off in the book, but I can't switch from chapter to chapter. I added about 10 mp3 files and pressed the bind button, it worked, but I just can't seem to navigate the chapters. Courtney On Feb 28, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Esther, > Many thanks for your reply which has solved the problem! I tried playing a bit of the book in iTunes on my iMac and then resyncing to the iPod Nano Generation 6. that did the trick and the iPod Nano now shows the "resume" button, which works as expected. > Many thanks again. You are a genius! > Best wishes.... > > Paul Hopewell > On 28 Feb 2011, at 19:08, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> I can't suggest what might be the issue with your Audiobook conversion with Audiobook Binder and the Sixth generation Nano, but the message that Kind is "Protected AAC Audio file" that you get reported when you do Command-I ("Get Info") to read the summary info page for your M4B tracks is not likely to be the problem. This status will be reported for any M4B tracks in iTunes. For example, if you ripped CD tracks to AAC format, producing a file with M4A extension, then delete such a track from your iTunes library, rename the extension from M4A to M4B, and add it back to your iTunes library, you'll find the same status reported ("Kind: Protected AAC Audio file") on the summary page when you do your Command-I "Get Info". >> >> This message is historical; when the first audiobooks were handled in iTunes, the recognized formats were either Audible files, which ended in ".aa" file types, or iTunes Store versions of these books, with files which had names that ended in ".m4b" file types. It turns out that the ".m4b" format files used for audiobooks is similar to the ".m4a" format files used for encoding music, although there is encoding within the file and its headers that enforces the "Fairplay" copy protection protection that iTunes uses. So, in early iTunes installations, simply renaming the file extension from ".m4a" to ".m4b" and adding such a file to iTunes would cause it to be classified as an audiobook, and also be identified as "Protected". (This is a simplified version -- it worked this way on Windows iTunes versions, because Windows only uses the file extension, while Macs keep track of the program that created the file to determine whether a file with ".m4a" extension opens by default > in >> iTunes, Amadeus Pro, QuickTime, etc. Apple later adjusted the way iTunes on the Mac worked so that a file with ".m4b" extension that was added to the library would also get classified as an audiobook, just as for iTunes on Windows. Still later, was the separate addition of options that would allow bookmarking ("Remember Playback Position") and keeping out of shuffle play, as well as setting media kind to "Audiobook" (all settings on the "Options" tab of "Get Info" with Command-I). These settings no longer required an AAC file (M4A or M4B) type to work -- they could be applied to MP3 files, for example. However, support for "chapter marker" navigation does require an AAC file format, since only this file format had this structure built into the original file definitions. (This applies specifically to Apple's implementation of AAC files). >> >> Audiobook Binder will have converted your MP3 files to AAC files and then made the extension type "M4B". It will also have chapterized the resulting joined segments by placing markers at the original "join" positions. The ability to hold a bookmark and resume play there depends on the device performance, as well as the file structure. It's possible that a file will play correctly as a bookmarkable audiobook in iTunes on your computer, and not on an iPod. Since I don't have a sixth generation Nano, I can't do any testing. >> >> Here are some general thoughts though: can you force the device to re-sync an updated iTunes database? This may not apply, but in earlier generation devices, if an audiobook were in the database as an "M4A" file, and the only change made to it was that it was renamed with an "M4B" extension, when it was synced back to an iPod the iTunes database file on that device would only update when there was an actual change in data -- like track name, playing time, etc. Changing the file name, adding a comment field, adding album art, etc. could all force the database on the device to update. As I recall, sometimes just adding a new track that was not even related to the audiobook could make the database resync, although it would certainly re-read the entries for an audiobook if you changed one of the entries (even by adding a "comment" field remark with "Get Info"). On old nanos, this was enough to get an audiobook that was newly made "bookmarkable" recognized as such. On the o > ld >> iPod Shuffles, the ability to correctly hold bookmarks was something that eventually had to be fixed with a firmware update. Certain factors like the length of the audiobook file to be bookmarked or the complexity of the recording importing settings (e.g. 44.1kHz -- CD quality), could make the problem worse, since bookmarking requires that the device hold part of the track in device memory to work. What import settings were used for the conversion to "M4A"? It may be that the Audiobook Binder program leaves the AAC settings at their default values, which are now set at "iTunes Plus" quality for music (e.g. 256 kbps stereo bit rate and 44.1kHz sampling, shown on the Summary tab when you use Command-I to "Get Info"). (These values used to be set lower in earlier generations of iTunes when Audiobook Binder was first created). >> >> Sorry not to have more suggestions. HTH. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:55, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> Looking at the M4B files produced by audio book binder I see that they are labeled in Finder and in itunes as "protected audio file" for some reason. Presumably that means they are read only files and so the iPod Nano cannot update them to save the current position. >>> So I wonder whey they are protected (the original audio book is not protected in any way) and what I can do if anything to make them read / write files. >>> Best regards.... >>> >>> Paul Hopewell write to { >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Paul Hopewell >>>> Date: 27 February 2011 18:42:20 GMT >>>> To: mac-access >>>> Subject: Audio book binder question >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> I have been trying the free audio book binder APP from the MAC APP store on my iMac. I tried it on an audio book which was originally 79 MP3 files of about 7 MB each. I joined these into 8 chapters with about 10 tracks per chapter. I had to do this starting from the end of the book and joining the tracks in groups of 10 until I reached the start of the book and I then renumbered the chapters. that all worked fine. the resultant audio book comprised 2 M4B files. >>>> >>>> I then synced the book onto my iPod Nano Generation 6. that also worked fine with all 8 chapters listed each about 1 hour and 30 minutes long. The only problem is that if I switch to some other audio book and then back to the above audio book the above audio book resumes playing from the start of the book. the layout on the iPod Nano is the same as for an audio book from audible with the exception that there is no "resume" button, and hence no way to replay from where I last left off. >>>> >>>> I checked with the options on itunes for this book and the options are indeed set to remember current position. >>>> >>>> Any suggestions? >>>> Many thanks. >>>> >>>> Paul Hopewell >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 22:03:21 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:03:21 -0800 Subject: a good way to extract emails Message-ID: <072E2512-D1F0-4095-86D7-BF34585B0A28@gmail.com> Well I was looking for a way to extract emails so I could send a bulk mail out for a project I'm working on. I found this hint which worked. I just edited the list afterwords which took about 3 minutes. Take care all and link is below. http://bit.ly/evqstJ From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Feb 28 22:18:47 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:18:47 +0000 Subject: Audio book binder question In-Reply-To: References: <7EC434EA-C22C-4864-B2E6-D620A969C9A9@hopewell.org.uk> <97D55F34-62C9-4DDC-974A-48C4639354CD@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <7F7F5F58-281E-4D26-AC16-52373B8F2ED5@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Courtney, Use Shift+Command+RightArrow to go to the next chapter and Shift+Command+LeftArrow to go to the previous chapter . That initially goes to the start of the current chapter but if you press it twice then it goes to the start of the prior chapter. that all works for me in an audio book built by audio book binder. Paul Hopewell On 28 Feb 2011, at 21:18, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I'm also having a problem with audiobook binder, Itunes remmembers the place I left off in the book, but I can't switch from chapter to chapter. I added about 10 mp3 files and pressed the bind button, it worked, but I just can't seem to navigate the chapters. > Courtney > > On Feb 28, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hi Esther, >> Many thanks for your reply which has solved the problem! I tried playing a bit of the book in iTunes on my iMac and then resyncing to the iPod Nano Generation 6. that did the trick and the iPod Nano now shows the "resume" button, which works as expected. >> Many thanks again. You are a genius! >> Best wishes.... >> >> Paul Hopewell >> On 28 Feb 2011, at 19:08, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> I can't suggest what might be the issue with your Audiobook conversion with Audiobook Binder and the Sixth generation Nano, but the message that Kind is "Protected AAC Audio file" that you get reported when you do Command-I ("Get Info") to read the summary info page for your M4B tracks is not likely to be the problem. This status will be reported for any M4B tracks in iTunes. For example, if you ripped CD tracks to AAC format, producing a file with M4A extension, then delete such a track from your iTunes library, rename the extension from M4A to M4B, and add it back to your iTunes library, you'll find the same status reported ("Kind: Protected AAC Audio file") on the summary page when you do your Command-I "Get Info". >>> >>> This message is historical; when the first audiobooks were handled in iTunes, the recognized formats were either Audible files, which ended in ".aa" file types, or iTunes Store versions of these books, with files which had names that ended in ".m4b" file types. It turns out that the ".m4b" format files used for audiobooks is similar to the ".m4a" format files used for encoding music, although there is encoding within the file and its headers that enforces the "Fairplay" copy protection protection that iTunes uses. So, in early iTunes installations, simply renaming the file extension from ".m4a" to ".m4b" and adding such a file to iTunes would cause it to be classified as an audiobook, and also be identified as "Protected". (This is a simplified version -- it worked this way on Windows iTunes versions, because Windows only uses the file extension, while Macs keep track of the program that created the file to determine whether a file with ".m4a" extension opens by default > >> in >>> iTunes, Amadeus Pro, QuickTime, etc. Apple later adjusted the way iTunes on the Mac worked so that a file with ".m4b" extension that was added to the library would also get classified as an audiobook, just as for iTunes on Windows. Still later, was the separate addition of options that would allow bookmarking ("Remember Playback Position") and keeping out of shuffle play, as well as setting media kind to "Audiobook" (all settings on the "Options" tab of "Get Info" with Command-I). These settings no longer required an AAC file (M4A or M4B) type to work -- they could be applied to MP3 files, for example. However, support for "chapter marker" navigation does require an AAC file format, since only this file format had this structure built into the original file definitions. (This applies specifically to Apple's implementation of AAC files). >>> >>> Audiobook Binder will have converted your MP3 files to AAC files and then made the extension type "M4B". It will also have chapterized the resulting joined segments by placing markers at the original "join" positions. The ability to hold a bookmark and resume play there depends on the device performance, as well as the file structure. It's possible that a file will play correctly as a bookmarkable audiobook in iTunes on your computer, and not on an iPod. Since I don't have a sixth generation Nano, I can't do any testing. >>> >>> Here are some general thoughts though: can you force the device to re-sync an updated iTunes database? This may not apply, but in earlier generation devices, if an audiobook were in the database as an "M4A" file, and the only change made to it was that it was renamed with an "M4B" extension, when it was synced back to an iPod the iTunes database file on that device would only update when there was an actual change in data -- like track name, playing time, etc. Changing the file name, adding a comment field, adding album art, etc. could all force the database on the device to update. As I recall, sometimes just adding a new track that was not even related to the audiobook could make the database resync, although it would certainly re-read the entries for an audiobook if you changed one of the entries (even by adding a "comment" field remark with "Get Info"). On old nanos, this was enough to get an audiobook that was newly made "bookmarkable" recognized as such. On the > o >> ld >>> iPod Shuffles, the ability to correctly hold bookmarks was something that eventually had to be fixed with a firmware update. Certain factors like the length of the audiobook file to be bookmarked or the complexity of the recording importing settings (e.g. 44.1kHz -- CD quality), could make the problem worse, since bookmarking requires that the device hold part of the track in device memory to work. What import settings were used for the conversion to "M4A"? It may be that the Audiobook Binder program leaves the AAC settings at their default values, which are now set at "iTunes Plus" quality for music (e.g. 256 kbps stereo bit rate and 44.1kHz sampling, shown on the Summary tab when you use Command-I to "Get Info"). (These values used to be set lower in earlier generations of iTunes when Audiobook Binder was first created). >>> >>> Sorry not to have more suggestions. HTH. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:55, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> Looking at the M4B files produced by audio book binder I see that they are labeled in Finder and in itunes as "protected audio file" for some reason. Presumably that means they are read only files and so the iPod Nano cannot update them to save the current position. >>>> So I wonder whey they are protected (the original audio book is not protected in any way) and what I can do if anything to make them read / write files. >>>> Best regards.... >>>> >>>> Paul Hopewell write to { >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Paul Hopewell >>>>> Date: 27 February 2011 18:42:20 GMT >>>>> To: mac-access >>>>> Subject: Audio book binder question >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> I have been trying the free audio book binder APP from the MAC APP store on my iMac. I tried it on an audio book which was originally 79 MP3 files of about 7 MB each. I joined these into 8 chapters with about 10 tracks per chapter. I had to do this starting from the end of the book and joining the tracks in groups of 10 until I reached the start of the book and I then renumbered the chapters. that all worked fine. the resultant audio book comprised 2 M4B files. >>>>> >>>>> I then synced the book onto my iPod Nano Generation 6. that also worked fine with all 8 chapters listed each about 1 hour and 30 minutes long. The only problem is that if I switch to some other audio book and then back to the above audio book the above audio book resumes playing from the start of the book. the layout on the iPod Nano is the same as for an audio book from audible with the exception that there is no "resume" button, and hence no way to replay from where I last left off. >>>>> >>>>> I checked with the options on itunes for this book and the options are indeed set to remember current position. >>>>> >>>>> Any suggestions? >>>>> Many thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Paul Hopewell >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Mon Feb 28 21:19:14 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:19:14 -0500 Subject: Plauyimg moviers on the iPad In-Reply-To: References: <37ADFBBF-002C-4C16-8786-0ECF65267D48@mac-access.net> <2BEDB2A3-2848-4361-8D7C-D63C42E047C2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7FD94C80-139C-44AB-A4B3-B792081F8A00@me.com> Hi Andrea, Do you know where your mother is trying to get her videos? Different sources will play in different players on the iPad. For example, Netflix movies will play in the Netflix App, iTunes movies and TV shows will play in the included Videos App, and if I remember correctly, Amazon streaming videos will not play at all on the iPad because they are in Adobe Flash. Bryan. On Feb 28, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: > If you click on a link or something that requires the video app wouldn't it just play it? Then if it doesn't play wouldn't that mean that the app is missing? My mother has an iPad and she can't play videos either. I posted to the list and never got anything back. From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 22:38:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:38:53 -0800 Subject: RFB&D Releases RFB&D Audio iOS App Message-ID: REad more at the link below. you need to click on the blind bargains post though to find the info. good luck. http://post.ly/1gT21 #a11y #accessibility #news From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Mon Feb 28 22:50:34 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:50:34 -0400 Subject: LMP Bluetooth Numaric Keypad. Message-ID: <48BAC57D37C8456BA40D46FACBA7AC91@MainComputer> Hi Folks: I thought I would give a heads-up to anyone who is looking for a Bluetooth numeric keypad for their wireless keyboard. The LMP Bluetooth Keypad will do the trick. It can be attached to your regular Apple Bluetooth keyboard with each unit maintaining their individual power on capability. Two small negative points: 1. it can be a bit tricky to pair. 2. The operating distance is not as good on the LMP keypad as it is on the Apple Bluetooth keyboard. It certainly can cover any size room; however, if one is wishing to operate the Mac from a longer distance using a wireless headset, (say, on the patio), this could be a problem. Having said that, it must be emphasized that the Apple Bluetooth keyboard has better than average coverage. If you have any questions, give us a shout. Cheers. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From moopiecurran at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 23:50:21 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:50:21 -0500 Subject: Audio book binder question In-Reply-To: <7F7F5F58-281E-4D26-AC16-52373B8F2ED5@hopewell.org.uk> References: <7EC434EA-C22C-4864-B2E6-D620A969C9A9@hopewell.org.uk> <97D55F34-62C9-4DDC-974A-48C4639354CD@hopewell.org.uk> <7F7F5F58-281E-4D26-AC16-52373B8F2ED5@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi, Unfortunately, command plus shift plus right arrow isn't working for me, in the process of adding the files, was there anything special you might have done to make it separate into chapters? Thanks, Courtney