From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 1 00:01:13 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:01:13 -0800 Subject: iPhone Alarms Not Working After New Years 1/1/11 Message-ID: <196ECD80-95CC-47AC-9DEC-23CBE2255170@gmail.com> Is apple having a glitch in there software again? read more if at all possibil. I didn't test the site. http://gkz1.co/h7KEMJ #tech From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sat Jan 1 00:06:12 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 00:06:12 +0000 Subject: happy new year to all In-Reply-To: <475E2D71-0D4D-42C5-9E76-00F410415AA5@insightbb.com> References: <475E2D71-0D4D-42C5-9E76-00F410415AA5@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <65FFC708-9175-4FA8-B9B9-8A31377947F8@googlemail.com> hello all, happy new year to you all and hope you all have a good 2011. Ian McNamara From vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au Sat Jan 1 02:01:43 2011 From: vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au (Vaughn Bennison) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 12:01:43 +1000 Subject: Bongiovi Acoustics - iTunes DPSPlugin In-Reply-To: <678B7174-86DC-4D0D-A35D-4064AB232AEB@mac-access.net> References: <3A6D661E-EE31-45E9-BC2C-266F05487E0A@gmail.com> <889C5591-A911-4980-8735-37703B93A8D8@netspace.net.au> <5A39154F-8CAE-412A-A4D4-BBADC11F7FC0@mac-access.net> <92B0B0DD-9646-4F1B-B92B-387C73D1C266@netspace.net.au> <0BDF6729-4BB8-44B1-B4B9-55C76F14FA0F@netspace.net.au> <678B7174-86DC-4D0D-A35D-4064AB232AEB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5248DC84-242F-4374-8260-6A1DD1A2D509@netspace.net.au> Hi, You access it from the window menu. Vaughn. On 01/01/2011, at 5:38 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Vaughn > On 31 Dec 2010, at 14:58, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > >> ? That sounds cool! I've never really looked into the slingbox here in Australia, but I might do that. It would be really cool if we could for example record shows on different computers. I really only watch Doctor Who, but my son watches a fair bit of TV, and my wife does as well. And I'm not particularly into the shows that she wants to watch etc!!!! >> > The Slingbox Pro is available in Australia. The Pro HD isn't for some reason but you can certainly get the Pro over there. > > >> ? I had a bit more of a play with the dps plugin, and apart from the two accessibility concerns I mentioned, I quite like it. It would be cool though if you could change the perameters of the profiles! >> > How do you access it from iTunes? > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From simoncavendish at me.com Sat Jan 1 10:39:23 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 10:39:23 +0000 Subject: Test message Message-ID: <4EBB7414-0CB4-4FE4-B39B-90B5829FD524@me.com> Hello Lynne and Gordon, This is just a test message. Please, Listers, ignore it. Simon From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jan 1 11:12:37 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 11:12:37 +0000 Subject: Test message In-Reply-To: <4EBB7414-0CB4-4FE4-B39B-90B5829FD524@me.com> References: <4EBB7414-0CB4-4FE4-B39B-90B5829FD524@me.com> Message-ID: <15191528-46E2-481C-B575-38C24BF3588C@mac-access.net> Hello Simon; this arrived once. So I'll do some more checking regarding your subscription. Lynne On 1 Jan 2011, at 10:39, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Hello Lynne and Gordon, This is just a test message. Please, Listers, ignore it. > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From simoncavendish at me.com Sat Jan 1 11:31:25 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (Simon Cavendish) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 11:31:25 +0000 Subject: Test message Message-ID: A diagnostic test message, jplease, listers, ignore it. From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Jan 1 14:39:33 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 14:39:33 +0000 Subject: any hope In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F60F0D9-BCF3-43DA-92AB-830393FE7E69@googlemail.com> HI Carolyn. Chances are, your iPhone is probably not fully working or faulty in some way due to screen damage. You may be lucky though, but the iPhone is very thin and the front is all screen so it would be very easy for the pixels to be damaged. Regards. Lewis. On 30 Dec 2010, at 22:11, Carolyn Wagner wrote: > Does any one know if there is any hope for my iphone that was dropped in a bucket of water? Any hope at all? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Jan 1 15:02:34 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 15:02:34 +0000 Subject: Question on YoruFukurou Message-ID: Hello Listers, I am trying out Twitter on my iMac. Following an earlier recommendation on this list I have installed the Twitter client YoruFukurou. I have set up a couple of topics to follow and now when I start YoruFukurou I see a table with 4 columns the second of which is a tweet with details of who sent that tweet. I cannot read any of the other 3 columns using VO. I was rather hoping that one of these columns would tell me the date of the tweet. I have looked at the preferences but can see no way to see tweets with dates and sender. Is this possible either using YoruFukurou or maybe some other accessible Twitter client? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From mike at busboom.at Sat Jan 1 16:45:19 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:45:19 +0100 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? Message-ID: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. Mike From mike at busboom.at Sat Jan 1 16:45:19 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:45:19 +0100 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? Message-ID: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. Mike From simoncavendish at me.com Sat Jan 1 17:45:04 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:45:04 +0000 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> Message-ID: Hello, I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. Best wishes Simon On 1 Jan 2011, at 16:45, Michael Busboom wrote: > Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! > > I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. > > Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From mike at busboom.at Sat Jan 1 18:15:10 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 19:15:10 +0100 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> Message-ID: <1A3EC83C-6A27-402E-8371-1E8C28DF0DE0@busboom.at> Hello Simon, I will give this a try right now and get back to you by tomorrow at the latest. Thanks for the tip and best regards, Mike On 1,Jan,2011, at 6:45 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > Hello, > > I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. > > Best wishes > > Simon > On 1 Jan 2011, at 16:45, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! >> >> I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. >> >> Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. >> >> Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jan 1 18:19:01 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:19:01 +0000 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> Message-ID: Hello Mike, & Simon. On 1 Jan 2011, at 17:45, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > ? I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. If it helps at all, we have noticed this on quite a few sites; synchronisation breaks between the tab key movement, (if enabled in the advanced preferences of Safari), and the VoiceOver cursor. Sometime, the VoiceOver cursor gets stuck in lists and tables, etc. PayPal uses quite a view list views at various points and it's notorious for this type of problem. Lynne From wagners96 at verizon.net Sat Jan 1 18:36:58 2011 From: wagners96 at verizon.net (Carolyn Wagner) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 13:36:58 -0500 Subject: any hope In-Reply-To: <2F60F0D9-BCF3-43DA-92AB-830393FE7E69@googlemail.com> References: <2F60F0D9-BCF3-43DA-92AB-830393FE7E69@googlemail.com> Message-ID: I just want to say thank you to everyone that responded to my desperate plea ;-) Things as they are, could be worse, it is just a phone. I have it wrapped in an air tight plastic bag with rice, and high hopes. I will check back soon and let you know the outcome! Happy New Year to all! On Jan 1, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Lewis Crack wrote: > HI Carolyn. > > Chances are, your iPhone is probably not fully working or faulty in some way due to screen damage. You may be lucky though, but the iPhone is very thin and the front is all screen so it would be very easy for the pixels to be damaged. > Regards. > Lewis. > On 30 Dec 2010, at 22:11, Carolyn Wagner wrote: > >> Does any one know if there is any hope for my iphone that was dropped in a bucket of water? Any hope at all? >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From wa9dro at gmail.com Sat Jan 1 19:05:44 2011 From: wa9dro at gmail.com (Keith Reedy) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 14:05:44 -0500 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: <1A3EC83C-6A27-402E-8371-1E8C28DF0DE0@busboom.at> References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> <1A3EC83C-6A27-402E-8371-1E8C28DF0DE0@busboom.at> Message-ID: <394A9A3F-D6A3-415F-9EEC-A174CD466B4F@gmail.com> Hi Mike, I don't use paypal, but, when I need to find a button I use the itemchooser, VO keys-i. Keith Reedy Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello Simon, > > I will give this a try right now and get back to you by tomorrow at the latest. > > Thanks for the tip and best regards, > > Mike > > On 1,Jan,2011, at 6:45 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Simon >> On 1 Jan 2011, at 16:45, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! >>> >>> I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. >>> >>> Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From mike at busboom.at Sat Jan 1 19:57:05 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 20:57:05 +0100 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: <394A9A3F-D6A3-415F-9EEC-A174CD466B4F@gmail.com> References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> <1A3EC83C-6A27-402E-8371-1E8C28DF0DE0@busboom.at> <394A9A3F-D6A3-415F-9EEC-A174CD466B4F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello everyone who responded to my note: I tried the Item Chooser, Keith, and it worked reasonably well enough. Simon, I also tried your suggestion of using the Tab and it worked. But then the funniest thing happened. I was able to choose my currency and type in the amount I wanted to send. However, when I clicked on the Submit button, I was told that the transaction could not be completed. Again, this only happens when I use the Safari browser; it does not happen with Internet Explorer. Perhaps I need to change something else in Safari's preferences, too? My best to all, Mike On 1,Jan,2011, at 8:05 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I don't use paypal, but, when I need to find a button I use the itemchooser, VO keys-i. > Keith Reedy > Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! > http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 > > On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello Simon, >> >> I will give this a try right now and get back to you by tomorrow at the latest. >> >> Thanks for the tip and best regards, >> >> Mike >> >> On 1,Jan,2011, at 6:45 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> Simon >>> On 1 Jan 2011, at 16:45, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> >>>> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! >>>> >>>> I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. >>>> >>>> Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Jan 1 20:09:27 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 20:09:27 +0000 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> <1A3EC83C-6A27-402E-8371-1E8C28DF0DE0@busboom.at> <394A9A3F-D6A3-415F-9EEC-A174CD466B4F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike. Another thing to try: When you open Safari, press VO plus M to go to the menu. Scroll right with the arrow keys until you hear, Develop Menu. Scroll down to User Agent Submenu. Then select Internet Explorer 8.0 or Firefox 3.6, and press enter. Hopefully now, your webpage, in this case PayPal will appear as it would in Internet Explorer or Firefox. I hope this manages to solve your problem more effectively. Best regards and happy new year to all. Lewis. On 1 Jan 2011, at 19:57, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone who responded to my note: > > I tried the Item Chooser, Keith, and it worked reasonably well enough. Simon, I also tried your suggestion of using the Tab and it worked. But then the funniest thing happened. I was able to choose my currency and type in the amount I wanted to send. However, when I clicked on the Submit button, I was told that the transaction could not be completed. Again, this only happens when I use the Safari browser; it does not happen with Internet Explorer. Perhaps I need to change something else in Safari's preferences, too? > > My best to all, > > Mike > > On 1,Jan,2011, at 8:05 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> I don't use paypal, but, when I need to find a button I use the itemchooser, VO keys-i. >> Keith Reedy >> Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! >> http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 >> >> On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hello Simon, >>> >>> I will give this a try right now and get back to you by tomorrow at the latest. >>> >>> Thanks for the tip and best regards, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 6:45 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> On 1 Jan 2011, at 16:45, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>> >>>>> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! >>>>> >>>>> I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Jan 1 20:12:04 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 20:12:04 +0000 Subject: Question on YoruFukurou In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2CD5EB04-AFFD-429B-93DF-83ED17D42BF9@googlemail.com> Hi Paul. I haven't seen a date thing either. I use YoruFukurou, and have been since a couple of weeks ago. Howver, if you wnt to view separate lists, e.g direct messages or updated tweets, press command right arrow to scroll right and command left arrow to scroll left. This will take you through the columns of the table. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 1 Jan 2011, at 15:02, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello Listers, > I am trying out Twitter on my iMac. Following an earlier recommendation on this list I have installed the Twitter client YoruFukurou. I have set up a couple of topics to follow and now when I start YoruFukurou I see a table with 4 columns the second of which is a tweet with details of who sent that tweet. I cannot read any of the other 3 columns using VO. I was rather hoping that one of these columns would tell me the date of the tweet. > > I have looked at the preferences but can see no way to see tweets with dates and sender. Is this possible either using YoruFukurou or maybe some other accessible Twitter client? > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From mike at busboom.at Sat Jan 1 21:07:05 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:07:05 +0100 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> <1A3EC83C-6A27-402E-8371-1E8C28DF0DE0@busboom.at> <394A9A3F-D6A3-415F-9EEC-A174CD466B4F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Lewis, Unfortunately, I do not have the Develop Menu among my Safari menu items. Any other thoughts? Are you perhaps using a beta version of Safari, perhaps a Webkit version? Or, rather, do I need to do something in my Safari preferences to make this menu option appear? Best regards, Mike On 1,Jan,2011, at 9:09 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Mike. > > Another thing to try: > When you open Safari, press VO plus M to go to the menu. > Scroll right with the arrow keys until you hear, Develop Menu. > Scroll down to User Agent Submenu. > Then select Internet Explorer 8.0 or Firefox 3.6, and press enter. > Hopefully now, your webpage, in this case PayPal will appear as it would in Internet Explorer or Firefox. > I hope this manages to solve your problem more effectively. > Best regards and happy new year to all. > Lewis. > On 1 Jan 2011, at 19:57, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone who responded to my note: >> >> I tried the Item Chooser, Keith, and it worked reasonably well enough. Simon, I also tried your suggestion of using the Tab and it worked. But then the funniest thing happened. I was able to choose my currency and type in the amount I wanted to send. However, when I clicked on the Submit button, I was told that the transaction could not be completed. Again, this only happens when I use the Safari browser; it does not happen with Internet Explorer. Perhaps I need to change something else in Safari's preferences, too? >> >> My best to all, >> >> Mike >> >> On 1,Jan,2011, at 8:05 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> I don't use paypal, but, when I need to find a button I use the itemchooser, VO keys-i. >>> Keith Reedy >>> Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! >>> http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 >>> >>> On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Simon, >>>> >>>> I will give this a try right now and get back to you by tomorrow at the latest. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the tip and best regards, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 6:45 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> On 1 Jan 2011, at 16:45, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! >>>>>> >>>>>> I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From mike at busboom.at Sat Jan 1 21:07:05 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:07:05 +0100 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> <1A3EC83C-6A27-402E-8371-1E8C28DF0DE0@busboom.at> <394A9A3F-D6A3-415F-9EEC-A174CD466B4F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Lewis, Unfortunately, I do not have the Develop Menu among my Safari menu items. Any other thoughts? Are you perhaps using a beta version of Safari, perhaps a Webkit version? Or, rather, do I need to do something in my Safari preferences to make this menu option appear? Best regards, Mike On 1,Jan,2011, at 9:09 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Mike. > > Another thing to try: > When you open Safari, press VO plus M to go to the menu. > Scroll right with the arrow keys until you hear, Develop Menu. > Scroll down to User Agent Submenu. > Then select Internet Explorer 8.0 or Firefox 3.6, and press enter. > Hopefully now, your webpage, in this case PayPal will appear as it would in Internet Explorer or Firefox. > I hope this manages to solve your problem more effectively. > Best regards and happy new year to all. > Lewis. > On 1 Jan 2011, at 19:57, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone who responded to my note: >> >> I tried the Item Chooser, Keith, and it worked reasonably well enough. Simon, I also tried your suggestion of using the Tab and it worked. But then the funniest thing happened. I was able to choose my currency and type in the amount I wanted to send. However, when I clicked on the Submit button, I was told that the transaction could not be completed. Again, this only happens when I use the Safari browser; it does not happen with Internet Explorer. Perhaps I need to change something else in Safari's preferences, too? >> >> My best to all, >> >> Mike >> >> On 1,Jan,2011, at 8:05 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> I don't use paypal, but, when I need to find a button I use the itemchooser, VO keys-i. >>> Keith Reedy >>> Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! >>> http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 >>> >>> On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Simon, >>>> >>>> I will give this a try right now and get back to you by tomorrow at the latest. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the tip and best regards, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 6:45 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> On 1 Jan 2011, at 16:45, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! >>>>>> >>>>>> I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From profhero1 at mac.com Sat Jan 1 21:36:17 2011 From: profhero1 at mac.com (Tom Sullivan) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 13:36:17 -0800 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> <1A3EC83C-6A27-402E-8371-1E8C28DF0DE0@busboom.at> <394A9A3F-D6A3-415F-9EEC-A174CD466B4F@gmail.com> Message-ID: In Safari preferences, navigate to"advanced." There you can enable the develop menu. On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello Lewis, Unfortunately, I do not have the Develop Menu among my Safari menu items. Any other thoughts? Are you perhaps using a beta version of Safari, perhaps a Webkit version? Or, rather, do I need to do something in my Safari preferences to make this menu option appear? Best regards, Mike On 1,Jan,2011, at 9:09 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Mike. > > Another thing to try: > When you open Safari, press VO plus M to go to the menu. > Scroll right with the arrow keys until you hear, Develop Menu. > Scroll down to User Agent Submenu. > Then select Internet Explorer 8.0 or Firefox 3.6, and press enter. > Hopefully now, your webpage, in this case PayPal will appear as it would in Internet Explorer or Firefox. > I hope this manages to solve your problem more effectively. > Best regards and happy new year to all. > Lewis. > On 1 Jan 2011, at 19:57, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone who responded to my note: >> >> I tried the Item Chooser, Keith, and it worked reasonably well enough. Simon, I also tried your suggestion of using the Tab and it worked. But then the funniest thing happened. I was able to choose my currency and type in the amount I wanted to send. However, when I clicked on the Submit button, I was told that the transaction could not be completed. Again, this only happens when I use the Safari browser; it does not happen with Internet Explorer. Perhaps I need to change something else in Safari's preferences, too? >> >> My best to all, >> >> Mike >> >> On 1,Jan,2011, at 8:05 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> I don't use paypal, but, when I need to find a button I use the itemchooser, VO keys-i. >>> Keith Reedy >>> Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! >>> http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 >>> >>> On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Simon, >>>> >>>> I will give this a try right now and get back to you by tomorrow at the latest. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the tip and best regards, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 6:45 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> On 1 Jan 2011, at 16:45, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! >>>>>> >>>>>> I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Tom Sullivan profhero1 at mac.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 1 22:34:01 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 14:34:01 -0800 Subject: Report: Verizon iPhone may cause up 6 million AT&T defections Message-ID: <9CB5E591-E5C5-4FC0-8517-E104D6770BF5@gmail.com> Will 6 million customers really leave at&t? read more: http://bit.ly/e7g38G From simoncavendish at me.com Sat Jan 1 22:38:22 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 22:38:22 +0000 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> <1A3EC83C-6A27-402E-8371-1E8C28DF0DE0@busboom.at> <394A9A3F-D6A3-415F-9EEC-A174CD466B4F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <28777455-34E0-4227-8B91-49A4F2F02137@me.com> Mike, go to Safari preferences by pressing command plus coma and see wehther there is a choice there to enable "development" menu. I have it and if my memory doesn't fail me, I think I had to choose to have it active and showing. It's good to check out your preference menu. With best wishes Simon On 1 Jan 2011, at 21:07, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello Lewis, > > Unfortunately, I do not have the Develop Menu among my Safari menu items. Any other thoughts? > > Are you perhaps using a beta version of Safari, perhaps a Webkit version? Or, rather, do I need to do something in my Safari preferences to make this menu option appear? > > Best regards, > > Mike > > On 1,Jan,2011, at 9:09 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> Hi Mike. >> >> Another thing to try: >> When you open Safari, press VO plus M to go to the menu. >> Scroll right with the arrow keys until you hear, Develop Menu. >> Scroll down to User Agent Submenu. >> Then select Internet Explorer 8.0 or Firefox 3.6, and press enter. >> Hopefully now, your webpage, in this case PayPal will appear as it would in Internet Explorer or Firefox. >> I hope this manages to solve your problem more effectively. >> Best regards and happy new year to all. >> Lewis. >> On 1 Jan 2011, at 19:57, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone who responded to my note: >>> >>> I tried the Item Chooser, Keith, and it worked reasonably well enough. Simon, I also tried your suggestion of using the Tab and it worked. But then the funniest thing happened. I was able to choose my currency and type in the amount I wanted to send. However, when I clicked on the Submit button, I was told that the transaction could not be completed. Again, this only happens when I use the Safari browser; it does not happen with Internet Explorer. Perhaps I need to change something else in Safari's preferences, too? >>> >>> My best to all, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 8:05 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mike, >>>> >>>> I don't use paypal, but, when I need to find a button I use the itemchooser, VO keys-i. >>>> Keith Reedy >>>> Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! >>>> http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 >>>> >>>> On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Simon, >>>>> >>>>> I will give this a try right now and get back to you by tomorrow at the latest. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the tip and best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 6:45 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>> >>>>>> Simon >>>>>> On 1 Jan 2011, at 16:45, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From support at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 00:51:48 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 00:51:48 +0000 Subject: Articles; confirmation on policy Message-ID: <948E4A70-205A-4DD4-95D7-BF10277A329D@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I have this evening received a message from a member querying the posting by various members of messages which contain links to articles. Sarah is one of those who regularly posts these messages; and I should make it clear from the outset that she has our permission, explicitly, to do so. Sarah and I discussed this shortly after she joined the group, and we reach what was, and remains, an understanding regarding what topics were posted to which list run by us. Sarah has adhered rigidly to the agreement we reached since that tine; and Gordon and I applaud her efforts. Regarding the message I received from a non-US based member this evening, it is true to say that sometimes articles to which messages refer are not relevant to those of us outside of the US. OK, so why can't you simply delete what you don't want to read? We appreciate that there will be such non-relevant content from time to time. But remember that when people discuss events which take place, for instance here in the UK, those events are not relevant to those people residing in the United States. But funny; I don't hear any of them complaining! :) I wanted to make it clear again, for the benefit of those members relatively new to the group, that what Sarah is doing is perfectly in order. She has done exactly as we asked; not swamped the list with such messages, but yet posted links to articles which others may well find of interest. Sarah, and all, please don't be afraid to post such things as long as they do contain topical information; For instance, Apple-related material. By all means post links to the websites of software titles you use which you think others may like, whether for iOS or Mac OSX. We welcome your input. Finally, on this topic, I would like to take the opportunity to thank each and every one of you for your participation in this group; regardless of how long you have been a member. It is very much appreciated, and we hope that during the next 12 months this group will continue to grow and thrive as it has done for the last 5 years since it was established as an alternative to the flaming and petty arguments which were at that time apparently happening elsewhere. Long live Mac Access, and we thank you all for your support of our efforts to help the Mac and iDevice community. Lynne From billd at insightbb.com Sun Jan 2 07:36:32 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 02:36:32 -0500 Subject: I tunes issue Message-ID: Hello to all, I have noticed that I tunes is not in my applications or is it in my Docs It is still on my apple page I was wondering what I might be able to do about this and what might be causing the problem. Bill Deatherage From simoncavendish at me.com Sun Jan 2 08:30:46 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 08:30:46 +0000 Subject: tables in latest Safari Message-ID: Hello, I have noticed that since the latest Apple update which included update to Safari 5.03, the way Voiceover behaves when encountering tables on a web page has changed. . By the way, I have my tab key set not to interact with elements automatically. I use DOM mode on web pages but the same behaviour happens when using group navigation option. This is what used to happen. I would encounter a table, and then I would interact with it and proceed to read it. If there were more than one table on the page, I could ignore, let's say the first table and just vo past it to the next one. That was useful because on the pages I know, if there are a few tables I can then choose which one I wish to interact with. , After the upgrade, this is what happens. I encounter a table and Voiceover immediately begins to interact with it. So I am in the table and I have to read it before I can move onto the next table along. If I choose to stop interacting with it bu pressing the well-known vo+shift+up arrow, I stop interacting with the html content altogether rather than the table itself. This is annoying me because on some pages I know and use regularly, I have 4 tables in a line, and I know I have to change the behaviour of one by setting parameters in another but now I can't just move past one table without interacting with it. If the table has 6 columns let's say and many rows it is a nuisance. Has anyone else found this change of Voceover behaviour? Is there a way round it. I have also noticed that prior to the most recent update of Safari, I could call up item chooser and type table, and all my tables would be listed as a word table. So I could then count the one I want using my prior knowledge, and say choose second or third and move to it like lightening Now when I invoke item chooser menu and type table, I think they are listed but Voiceover does not give me any verbal feedback, it is just quiet. Also, when a cell contains a link, Voiceover also interacts with it immediately so that you do not have to any longer interact with the cell first to activate the link. (This feature may be useful as it gets rid of an extra stroke - personal preference on my part - I guess I felt I was more in control. Sorry for the wordy posting but I wanted to be as specific as possible. Best wishes Simon From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sun Jan 2 09:45:14 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:45:14 +0100 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <68EEDBE9-E78A-4D2C-9021-E3562BCEA739@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Simon, I don't use many websites with more than one table, but I'm not having trouble with them. I use VO-Cmd-T to go to the next table and VO-Cmd-Shift-T to go to previous table. Cheers, Anne From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sun Jan 2 09:49:24 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:49:24 +0100 Subject: I tunes issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0548C4B2-A3B4-4D38-887E-C13E25C1A206@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Bill, I'm afraid I don't understand your problem. What do you mean by your "Apple page"? To see what is in your Applications folder, press Cmd-Shift-A then press Cmd-2 to make sure that you are in list mode, and all your applications will be listed in alphabetical order. iTunes comes with OS X and is always installed on any new machine. It should be in the Dock which you can get to with either VO-D or Ctrl-F3 and navigate with left and right arrow keys. Cheers, Anne On 2 Jan 2011, at 08:36, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello to all, > I have noticed that I tunes is not in my applications or is it in my Docs It is still on my apple page I was wondering what I might be able to do about this and what might be causing the problem. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From simoncavendish at me.com Sun Jan 2 10:17:05 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 10:17:05 +0000 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: <68EEDBE9-E78A-4D2C-9021-E3562BCEA739@anarchie.org.uk> References: <68EEDBE9-E78A-4D2C-9021-E3562BCEA739@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <33C20EC9-6410-4B97-906A-2DD0CDAB5E66@me.com> Ah, Ann, thank you. Forgotten about the existence of the shortcut key for that. I will give it a go. Best wishes Simon On 2 Jan 2011, at 09:45, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Simon, > > I don't use many websites with more than one table, but I'm not having trouble with them. I use VO-Cmd-T to go to the next table and VO-Cmd-Shift-T to go to previous table. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From rex.attome at gmail.com Sun Jan 2 10:49:47 2011 From: rex.attome at gmail.com (rex holmes) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:49:47 -0000 Subject: Articles; confirmation on policy References: <948E4A70-205A-4DD4-95D7-BF10277A329D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3D9739AE3AEA405790C9A23DDBCE7304@Blossom> I am quite new, but found the articles really helpful. Rex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon & Lynne Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:51 AM Subject: Articles; confirmation on policy > Hello everybody > > I have this evening received a message from a member querying the posting > by various members of messages which contain links to articles. Sarah is > one of those who regularly posts these messages; and I should make it > clear from the outset that she has our permission, explicitly, to do so. > Sarah and I discussed this shortly after she joined the group, and we > reach what was, and remains, an understanding regarding what topics were > posted to which list run by us. Sarah has adhered rigidly to the agreement > we reached since that tine; and Gordon and I applaud her efforts. > > Regarding the message I received from a non-US based member this evening, > it is true to say that sometimes articles to which messages refer are not > relevant to those of us outside of the US. OK, so why can't you simply > delete what you don't want to read? We appreciate that there will be such > non-relevant content from time to time. But remember that when people > discuss events which take place, for instance here in the UK, those events > are not relevant to those people residing in the United States. But funny; > I don't hear any of them complaining! :) > > I wanted to make it clear again, for the benefit of those members > relatively new to the group, that what Sarah is doing is perfectly in > order. She has done exactly as we asked; not swamped the list with such > messages, but yet posted links to articles which others may well find of > interest. Sarah, and all, please don't be afraid to post such things as > long as they do contain topical information; For instance, Apple-related > material. By all means post links to the websites of software titles you > use which you think others may like, whether for iOS or Mac OSX. We > welcome your input. > > Finally, on this topic, I would like to take the opportunity to thank each > and every one of you for your participation in this group; regardless of > how long you have been a member. It is very much appreciated, and we hope > that during the next 12 months this group will continue to grow and thrive > as it has done for the last 5 years since it was established as an > alternative to the flaming and petty arguments which were at that time > apparently happening elsewhere. > > Long live Mac Access, and we thank you all for your support of our efforts > to help the Mac and iDevice community. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the > Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 10:54:13 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:54:13 +0000 Subject: I tunes issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A50EC62-4615-427A-B378-57BC27F16FB9@mac-access.net> Hello Bill On 2 Jan 2011, at 07:36, William Deatherage wrote: > ? I have noticed that I tunes is not in my applications or is it in my Docs It is still on my apple page I was wondering what I might be able to do about this and what might be causing the problem. Firstly, I think I should point out that an application cannot just reside in the dock, the dock is just a convenient place to start things from. If iTunes isn't in the Applications folder, you might need to re-install the entire package. Gordon and I had this same issue when we installed the OS a while back on one of our Macs. We ended up downloading the app again fro the Apple iTunes website which is, I think, and then we got things working. There might be a better solution; if you can find the app and go into the content's package and do the necessary. But this was by far the simplest. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 10:58:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:58:24 +0000 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Simon I will top post. Why can't you use the VoiceOver hot key combo, (Control+Option+Command+T) to move forward between tables, and (Control+Option+Command+Shift+T) to move backward between tables? As for the interaction issue, I think there is a setting in the VoiceOver Utility under Web that defines how VoiceOver treats tables and groups. I don't think this is new to 10.6.5. Lynne On 2 Jan 2011, at 08:30, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > > I have noticed that since the latest Apple update which included update to Safari 5.03, the way Voiceover behaves when encountering tables on a web page has changed. > > . By the way, I have my tab key set not to interact with elements automatically. I use DOM mode on web pages but the same behaviour happens when using group navigation option. This is what used to happen. I would encounter a table, and then I would interact with it and proceed to read it. If there were more than one table on the page, I could ignore, let's say the first table and just vo past it to the next one. That was useful because on the pages I know, if there are a few tables I can then choose which one I wish to interact with. , > > After the upgrade, this is what happens. I encounter a table and Voiceover immediately begins to interact with it. So I am in the table and I have to read it before I can move onto the next table along. If I choose to stop interacting with it bu pressing the well-known vo+shift+up arrow, I stop interacting with the html content altogether rather than the table itself. This is annoying me because on some pages I know and use regularly, I have 4 tables in a line, and I know I have to change the behaviour of one by setting parameters in another but now I can't just move past one table without interacting with it. If the table has 6 columns let's say and many rows it is a nuisance. From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 11:05:11 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:05:11 +0000 Subject: Articles; confirmation on policy In-Reply-To: <3D9739AE3AEA405790C9A23DDBCE7304@Blossom> References: <948E4A70-205A-4DD4-95D7-BF10277A329D@mac-access.net> <3D9739AE3AEA405790C9A23DDBCE7304@Blossom> Message-ID: <367BE954-1E9A-4B15-8799-0E9E53430155@mac-access.net> Hello Rex On 2 Jan 2011, at 10:49, rex holmes wrote: > I am quite new, but found the articles really helpful. I think your view is probably reflective of the majority of members. I sincerely hope that those who don't agree can still find ways of working around these. Again, Sarah and others are in no way in breech of any policy or guideline. Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 12:20:18 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:20:18 +0000 Subject: Using zip or rar on the Comand Line Message-ID: <0BA21513-23AC-4F9D-BDA1-11035CFD78F3@mac-access.net> Hello everyone, I work a lot with .zip files, and despite using an application called "Yemu Zip", I am wondering it it might be quicker to create them on the Command Line. So I would like to ask if doing so would impact on compatibility for PC users? Does anyone know please? Also, is it possible to do the same with RAR files? I had a quick look here and there seems to be no in-built solution for RAR files. Is there anywhere that I can install a package to do this please? Thanks Take care James From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Jan 2 12:32:38 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:32:38 +0000 Subject: Using zip or rar on the Comand Line In-Reply-To: <0BA21513-23AC-4F9D-BDA1-11035CFD78F3@mac-access.net> References: <0BA21513-23AC-4F9D-BDA1-11035CFD78F3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello james have you tried the unarkiver that does raw and zip files. Ian McNamara From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 12:35:26 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:35:26 +0000 Subject: Using zip or rar on the Comand Line In-Reply-To: References: <0BA21513-23AC-4F9D-BDA1-11035CFD78F3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1F108C63-2740-4189-9455-DE3E87F002CD@mac-access.net> Hi Ian, On 2 Jan 2011, at 12:32, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hello james have you tried the unarkiver that does raw and zip files. Sorry, should have made it clearer, I want to create files via the Command Line, the Unarchiver as you know uncompresses files. I know how to create them, but i am wondering about the compatibility between files created on the Command Line and PC users. Thanks for the suggestion though. Take care James > Hello james have you tried the unarkiver that does raw and zip files. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 2 14:34:32 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:34:32 +0000 Subject: Using zip or rar on the Comand Line In-Reply-To: References: <0BA21513-23AC-4F9D-BDA1-11035CFD78F3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <02DC2713-1CC5-4282-A6EC-333315E086B8@googlemail.com> Hi James. Zip and RAR, plus numerous other compressed files will work with The Unarchiver. I find it very effective although it isn't a command line program. I'm not sure where you download it from, but if you type in The Unarchiver for Mac into google, I think it is the first link. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 2 Jan 2011, at 12:32, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hello james have you tried the unarkiver that does raw and zip files. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 2 14:37:57 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:37:57 +0000 Subject: Using zip or rar on the Comand Line In-Reply-To: <1F108C63-2740-4189-9455-DE3E87F002CD@mac-access.net> References: <0BA21513-23AC-4F9D-BDA1-11035CFD78F3@mac-access.net> <1F108C63-2740-4189-9455-DE3E87F002CD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi James. I think it depends on what type of files you are using. If you are creating .zip files or .rar files using the command line, I'm pretty sure they will work with other operating systems. Plus as you know, Linux uses command line which is based on Unix just like Mac and although Windows isn't based on Unix, it does have a kind of built in command line interface. Regards, Lewis. On 2 Jan 2011, at 12:35, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Ian, > > On 2 Jan 2011, at 12:32, Ian McNamara wrote: >> Hello james have you tried the unarkiver that does raw and zip files. > Sorry, should have made it clearer, I want to create files via the Command Line, the Unarchiver as you know uncompresses files. I know how to create them, but i am wondering about the compatibility between files created on the Command Line and PC users. > > Thanks for the suggestion though. > > Take care > James >> Hello james have you tried the unarkiver that does raw and zip files. >> >> Ian McNamara >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 2 14:46:40 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:46:40 +0000 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <849F8531-DF2F-4218-82F7-19EFB8FE1892@googlemail.com> HI Lynne. I use Safari all the time and I find I am able to use the VO Keys plus command plus T to move forward and VO Keys plus Command plus Shift plus T to move backwards between tables. However, some websites do encode their tables weirdly, which is sometimes why you can't do it. I sometimes find, for example on the Halifax Banking Website, that I can't use this command although I know that the list of my accounts is in a table. Lewis. On 2 Jan 2011, at 10:58, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Simon > > I will top post. Why can't you use the VoiceOver hot key combo, (Control+Option+Command+T) to move forward between tables, and (Control+Option+Command+Shift+T) to move backward between tables? As for the interaction issue, I think there is a setting in the VoiceOver Utility under Web that defines how VoiceOver treats tables and groups. I don't think this is new to 10.6.5. > > Lynne > > On 2 Jan 2011, at 08:30, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >> >> I have noticed that since the latest Apple update which included update to Safari 5.03, the way Voiceover behaves when encountering tables on a web page has changed. >> >> . By the way, I have my tab key set not to interact with elements automatically. I use DOM mode on web pages but the same behaviour happens when using group navigation option. This is what used to happen. I would encounter a table, and then I would interact with it and proceed to read it. If there were more than one table on the page, I could ignore, let's say the first table and just vo past it to the next one. That was useful because on the pages I know, if there are a few tables I can then choose which one I wish to interact with. , >> >> After the upgrade, this is what happens. I encounter a table and Voiceover immediately begins to interact with it. So I am in the table and I have to read it before I can move onto the next table along. If I choose to stop interacting with it bu pressing the well-known vo+shift+up arrow, I stop interacting with the html content altogether rather than the table itself. This is annoying me because on some pages I know and use regularly, I have 4 tables in a line, and I know I have to change the behaviour of one by setting parameters in another but now I can't just move past one table without interacting with it. If the table has 6 columns let's say and many rows it is a nuisance. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jan 2 15:42:07 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:42:07 +0000 Subject: any hope In-Reply-To: <6E951B95-BC54-43CA-9685-A10DD9B8E8F1@mac-access.net> References: <2A332728-97DB-4C87-8805-563C30455F28@gmail.com> <2647BBB2-B60C-41C3-BC6E-8DFAC58B37FC@me.com> <99DB5448-F8CB-4671-85DF-5C166515AC15@mac-access.net> <6E951B95-BC54-43CA-9685-A10DD9B8E8F1@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <18413774-4BAF-4449-AB54-D50BF59D54FE@blueyonder.co.uk> Actually it is quite easy to take the back off the iPhone and remove the battery. From visual memory there are two little screws at the bottom of the phone. However, I would not recommend it of course :) On 31 Dec 2010, at 19:36, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > On 31 Dec 2010, at 14:32, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> ? I'm curious, how would you remove the battery from an IPhone? From what I've seen, this is not possible as the back surface is completely flat and smooth. >> > I think you are correct. I could be wrong; but I think Bryan and Sarah are referring to other models of phone. > > Apparently there are sensors in the iPhone anyway which, if exposed to water, would malfunction. But I honestly don't see this working in the case of an iPhone. Even assuming you got the battery out, how do you fix the sensors? I'm not electrically clued up but I would think that water would result in a million short circuits anyway which would render the iPhone useless. > > I'm sure an Apple technician could disassemble the iPhone but I don't know so much about a user with no specialist equipment. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From billd at insightbb.com Sun Jan 2 16:26:48 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:26:48 -0500 Subject: I tunes issue In-Reply-To: <0A50EC62-4615-427A-B378-57BC27F16FB9@mac-access.net> References: <0A50EC62-4615-427A-B378-57BC27F16FB9@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <74D7F3A7-800B-4E66-B504-AFAFE0FC5163@insightbb.com> Thank you for the information. I will give that a try. Bill Deatherage On Jan 2, 2011, at 5:54 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Bill > > On 2 Jan 2011, at 07:36, William Deatherage wrote: > >> ? I have noticed that I tunes is not in my applications or is it in my Docs It is still on my apple page I was wondering what I might be able to do about this and what might be causing the problem. > > Firstly, I think I should point out that an application cannot just reside in the dock, the dock is just a convenient place to start things from. If iTunes isn't in the Applications folder, you might need to re-install the entire package. > > Gordon and I had this same issue when we installed the OS a while back on one of our Macs. We ended up downloading the app again fro the Apple iTunes website which is, I think, and then we got things working. > > There might be a better solution; if you can find the app and go into the content's package and do the necessary. But this was by far the simplest. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Jan 2 16:58:51 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:58:51 +0000 Subject: DPS plugin Message-ID: <7DC46BEA-B521-4C1B-A522-A885F3317B95@computing.dcu.ie> Hi there, Just wanted to let people know that I've downloaded the trial of this plugin. Don't waste your time. Firstly, lots of the buttons (all of them in fact) are unlabelled. Now one can add labels, as many of them do have "help text". More importantly, (and I must say here that I'm using a 13" MBP) the sound improvement is not wonderful. The main thing that this plugin seems to do is boost amplitude, and do some processing on mid-range frequencies. D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From mike at busboom.at Sun Jan 2 17:18:49 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:18:49 +0100 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: <28777455-34E0-4227-8B91-49A4F2F02137@me.com> References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> <1A3EC83C-6A27-402E-8371-1E8C28DF0DE0@busboom.at> <394A9A3F-D6A3-415F-9EEC-A174CD466B4F@gmail.com> <28777455-34E0-4227-8B91-49A4F2F02137@me.com> Message-ID: <395C5EE2-05DB-4FC8-8917-E90AC6819445@busboom.at> Thanks, Simon, for the tip which turned out to be a good one. I have one question, however. Do you know how to get Safari to stop emulating a different browser? I didn't find a "Restore to Default" option in the preferences, and the options for selecting a version of Safari for the Mac were dimmed. Thanks again so much, Mike On 1,Jan,2011, at 11:38 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > Mike, go to Safari preferences by pressing command plus coma and see wehther there is a choice there to enable "development" menu. I have it and if my memory doesn't fail me, I think I had to choose to have it active and showing. > > It's good to check out your preference menu. > > With best wishes > > Simon > On 1 Jan 2011, at 21:07, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello Lewis, >> >> Unfortunately, I do not have the Develop Menu among my Safari menu items. Any other thoughts? >> >> Are you perhaps using a beta version of Safari, perhaps a Webkit version? Or, rather, do I need to do something in my Safari preferences to make this menu option appear? >> >> Best regards, >> >> Mike >> >> On 1,Jan,2011, at 9:09 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike. >>> >>> Another thing to try: >>> When you open Safari, press VO plus M to go to the menu. >>> Scroll right with the arrow keys until you hear, Develop Menu. >>> Scroll down to User Agent Submenu. >>> Then select Internet Explorer 8.0 or Firefox 3.6, and press enter. >>> Hopefully now, your webpage, in this case PayPal will appear as it would in Internet Explorer or Firefox. >>> I hope this manages to solve your problem more effectively. >>> Best regards and happy new year to all. >>> Lewis. >>> On 1 Jan 2011, at 19:57, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone who responded to my note: >>>> >>>> I tried the Item Chooser, Keith, and it worked reasonably well enough. Simon, I also tried your suggestion of using the Tab and it worked. But then the funniest thing happened. I was able to choose my currency and type in the amount I wanted to send. However, when I clicked on the Submit button, I was told that the transaction could not be completed. Again, this only happens when I use the Safari browser; it does not happen with Internet Explorer. Perhaps I need to change something else in Safari's preferences, too? >>>> >>>> My best to all, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 8:05 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>> >>>>> I don't use paypal, but, when I need to find a button I use the itemchooser, VO keys-i. >>>>> Keith Reedy >>>>> Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! >>>>> http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Simon, >>>>>> >>>>>> I will give this a try right now and get back to you by tomorrow at the latest. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the tip and best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 6:45 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>> On 1 Jan 2011, at 16:45, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From mike at busboom.at Sun Jan 2 17:18:49 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:18:49 +0100 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: <28777455-34E0-4227-8B91-49A4F2F02137@me.com> References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> <1A3EC83C-6A27-402E-8371-1E8C28DF0DE0@busboom.at> <394A9A3F-D6A3-415F-9EEC-A174CD466B4F@gmail.com> <28777455-34E0-4227-8B91-49A4F2F02137@me.com> Message-ID: <395C5EE2-05DB-4FC8-8917-E90AC6819445@busboom.at> Thanks, Simon, for the tip which turned out to be a good one. I have one question, however. Do you know how to get Safari to stop emulating a different browser? I didn't find a "Restore to Default" option in the preferences, and the options for selecting a version of Safari for the Mac were dimmed. Thanks again so much, Mike On 1,Jan,2011, at 11:38 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > Mike, go to Safari preferences by pressing command plus coma and see wehther there is a choice there to enable "development" menu. I have it and if my memory doesn't fail me, I think I had to choose to have it active and showing. > > It's good to check out your preference menu. > > With best wishes > > Simon > On 1 Jan 2011, at 21:07, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello Lewis, >> >> Unfortunately, I do not have the Develop Menu among my Safari menu items. Any other thoughts? >> >> Are you perhaps using a beta version of Safari, perhaps a Webkit version? Or, rather, do I need to do something in my Safari preferences to make this menu option appear? >> >> Best regards, >> >> Mike >> >> On 1,Jan,2011, at 9:09 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike. >>> >>> Another thing to try: >>> When you open Safari, press VO plus M to go to the menu. >>> Scroll right with the arrow keys until you hear, Develop Menu. >>> Scroll down to User Agent Submenu. >>> Then select Internet Explorer 8.0 or Firefox 3.6, and press enter. >>> Hopefully now, your webpage, in this case PayPal will appear as it would in Internet Explorer or Firefox. >>> I hope this manages to solve your problem more effectively. >>> Best regards and happy new year to all. >>> Lewis. >>> On 1 Jan 2011, at 19:57, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone who responded to my note: >>>> >>>> I tried the Item Chooser, Keith, and it worked reasonably well enough. Simon, I also tried your suggestion of using the Tab and it worked. But then the funniest thing happened. I was able to choose my currency and type in the amount I wanted to send. However, when I clicked on the Submit button, I was told that the transaction could not be completed. Again, this only happens when I use the Safari browser; it does not happen with Internet Explorer. Perhaps I need to change something else in Safari's preferences, too? >>>> >>>> My best to all, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 8:05 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>> >>>>> I don't use paypal, but, when I need to find a button I use the itemchooser, VO keys-i. >>>>> Keith Reedy >>>>> Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! >>>>> http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Simon, >>>>>> >>>>>> I will give this a try right now and get back to you by tomorrow at the latest. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the tip and best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 6:45 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>> On 1 Jan 2011, at 16:45, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From simoncavendish at me.com Sun Jan 2 17:39:35 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 17:39:35 +0000 Subject: Tricks for using Paypal? In-Reply-To: <395C5EE2-05DB-4FC8-8917-E90AC6819445@busboom.at> References: <2C631D7E-E308-46A8-9741-E10351BB3E6F@busboom.at> <1A3EC83C-6A27-402E-8371-1E8C28DF0DE0@busboom.at> <394A9A3F-D6A3-415F-9EEC-A174CD466B4F@gmail.com> <28777455-34E0-4227-8B91-49A4F2F02137@me.com> <395C5EE2-05DB-4FC8-8917-E90AC6819445@busboom.at> Message-ID: Dear Mike, I'd just close Safari and it should default to its own version on opening it again. Glad you were able to accomplish what you wanted. With best wishes Simon On 2 Jan 2011, at 17:18, Michael Busboom wrote: > Thanks, Simon, for the tip which turned out to be a good one. > > I have one question, however. Do you know how to get Safari to stop emulating a different browser? I didn't find a "Restore to Default" option in the preferences, and the options for selecting a version of Safari for the Mac were dimmed. > > Thanks again so much, > > Mike > > On 1,Jan,2011, at 11:38 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > >> Mike, go to Safari preferences by pressing command plus coma and see wehther there is a choice there to enable "development" menu. I have it and if my memory doesn't fail me, I think I had to choose to have it active and showing. >> >> It's good to check out your preference menu. >> >> With best wishes >> >> Simon >> On 1 Jan 2011, at 21:07, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hello Lewis, >>> >>> Unfortunately, I do not have the Develop Menu among my Safari menu items. Any other thoughts? >>> >>> Are you perhaps using a beta version of Safari, perhaps a Webkit version? Or, rather, do I need to do something in my Safari preferences to make this menu option appear? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 9:09 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mike. >>>> >>>> Another thing to try: >>>> When you open Safari, press VO plus M to go to the menu. >>>> Scroll right with the arrow keys until you hear, Develop Menu. >>>> Scroll down to User Agent Submenu. >>>> Then select Internet Explorer 8.0 or Firefox 3.6, and press enter. >>>> Hopefully now, your webpage, in this case PayPal will appear as it would in Internet Explorer or Firefox. >>>> I hope this manages to solve your problem more effectively. >>>> Best regards and happy new year to all. >>>> Lewis. >>>> On 1 Jan 2011, at 19:57, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone who responded to my note: >>>>> >>>>> I tried the Item Chooser, Keith, and it worked reasonably well enough. Simon, I also tried your suggestion of using the Tab and it worked. But then the funniest thing happened. I was able to choose my currency and type in the amount I wanted to send. However, when I clicked on the Submit button, I was told that the transaction could not be completed. Again, this only happens when I use the Safari browser; it does not happen with Internet Explorer. Perhaps I need to change something else in Safari's preferences, too? >>>>> >>>>> My best to all, >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 8:05 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't use paypal, but, when I need to find a button I use the itemchooser, VO keys-i. >>>>>> Keith Reedy >>>>>> Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! >>>>>> http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Simon, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will give this a try right now and get back to you by tomorrow at the latest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the tip and best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1,Jan,2011, at 6:45 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've just gone into paypal and tested your problem. Initially, like yourself, I got stuck where you did. I then started using tab key to move through the various fields. I got to the button which you can activate to choose currency. I activated it and chose euros and then tabbed back and was able to get to the text edit field where you enter amount. I then returned to the currency button and changed the currency to British pounds again which was the original for me. I don't understand why I had to do it this way but try. It may be some work-around the problem for now. It's always worth trying using tab if vo+arrow keys don't work. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>>> On 1 Jan 2011, at 16:45, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Greetings to all of you, along with my best wishes for 2011! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am very confused and would enjoy getting some feedback. For reasons I don't understand, I am unable to successfully use Safari to send money via Paypal. I am unable to navigate to the edit field where I can enter the amount to be sent. In fact, the Voice Over Cursor gets stuck in an area of the screen where it continually reads: "Amount $3.40. Lift Limit." However, when I try to send money on my Windows machine, I don't even get the aforementioned message. Mind you, sending money using IE isn't easy for me, but it sort of works. I have a feeling that I am missing the obvious somewhere along the way and would be grateful for your collective wisdom. Again, the message about an amount of $3.40 doesn't even appear on my Windows side of the equation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks and once again, my best wishes to all for a wonderful new year. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 18:33:46 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:33:46 +0000 Subject: Using zip or rar on the Comand Line In-Reply-To: <0BA21513-23AC-4F9D-BDA1-11035CFD78F3@mac-access.net> References: <0BA21513-23AC-4F9D-BDA1-11035CFD78F3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <36303698-5699-46B4-BD1A-D617736C2E94@mac-access.net> Hello James On 2 Jan 2011, at 12:20, James AUSTIN wrote: > > I work a lot with .zip files, and despite using an application called "Yemu Zip", I am wondering it it might be quicker to create them on the Command Line. So I would like to ask if doing so would impact on compatibility for PC users? Does anyone know please? > If you would like to check the archives, this was discussed extensively around about last October. Gordon and I have a lot of archiving to do; and we were experimenting to discover which was the better, zip or RAR. > ? Also, is it possible to do the same with RAR files? I had a quick look here and there seems to be no in-built solution for RAR files. Is there anywhere that I can install a package to do this please? > Yes. Rar Mac works very well and, if you have a WinRAR registration for Windows, it also works well for OSX. So you wouldn't have to re-buy. If you want to contact us off list about this to avoid repeats, feel free. Otherwise, I'm sure Travis or others can help. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 18:49:43 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:49:43 +0000 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: <849F8531-DF2F-4218-82F7-19EFB8FE1892@googlemail.com> References: <849F8531-DF2F-4218-82F7-19EFB8FE1892@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hello Lewis On 2 Jan 2011, at 14:46, Lewis Crack wrote: > ? I use Safari all the time and I find I am able to use the VO Keys plus command plus T to move forward and VO Keys plus Command plus Shift plus T to move backwards between tables. However, some websites do encode their tables weirdly, which is sometimes why you can't do it. I sometimes find, for example on the Halifax Banking Website, that I can't use this command although I know that the list of my accounts is in a table. Gordon and I use the Halifax site all the time. I'm puzzled by this because the accounts in the accounts list are not in a table at all. They're listed as a "list", rather than a table of links. So no, it's not surprising you can't move by table on this site, as there is no table to navigate. For an example of a site which, I believe, has properly coded multiple tables, you can visit one of Gordon's unfinished project sites. It really does work incredibly well with speech as it was designed from the ground up for accessibility. You'll notice that there is something slightly different about the tables as well; see if anybody can spot the difference. :) You can find it here: and I am sorry if the subject matter doesn't interest you. But the point is that it shows you what VoiceOver can do with tables if they are properly designed. This site is visually appealing but does not compromise accessibility; which shows that it can be done if only people try. But anyway, I assure you that, unless you are using a different version of the halifax banking website found at the accounts are not in a table and there is no table there at all. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 18:51:52 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:51:52 +0000 Subject: any hope In-Reply-To: <18413774-4BAF-4449-AB54-D50BF59D54FE@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <2A332728-97DB-4C87-8805-563C30455F28@gmail.com> <2647BBB2-B60C-41C3-BC6E-8DFAC58B37FC@me.com> <99DB5448-F8CB-4671-85DF-5C166515AC15@mac-access.net> <6E951B95-BC54-43CA-9685-A10DD9B8E8F1@mac-access.net> <18413774-4BAF-4449-AB54-D50BF59D54FE@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hello Chris On 2 Jan 2011, at 15:42, Chris Moore wrote: > ? Actually it is quite easy to take the back off the iPhone and remove the battery. From visual memory there are two little screws at the bottom of the phone. However, I would not recommend it of course :) I haven't noticed those; but I'm not arguing. You could well be right. Even so, it's probably something best left to an Apple technician. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 19:08:06 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:08:06 +0000 Subject: DPS plugin In-Reply-To: <7DC46BEA-B521-4C1B-A522-A885F3317B95@computing.dcu.ie> References: <7DC46BEA-B521-4C1B-A522-A885F3317B95@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello D?nal On 2 Jan 2011, at 16:58, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > ? Just wanted to let people know that I've downloaded the trial of this plugin. Don't waste your time. Firstly, lots of the buttons (all of them in fact) are unlabelled. Now one can add labels, as many of them do have "help text". > Did you take the time to set up the correct profile? Lynne From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 2 20:09:33 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:09:33 +0000 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: References: <849F8531-DF2F-4218-82F7-19EFB8FE1892@googlemail.com> Message-ID: HI Lynne. Maybe it's the way Internet Explorer shows it with JAWS...oh well... Thanks for pointing that out. I've looked at Gordon's websites and I think I may have spotted something different. VoiceOver reads all the contents of the table that are in the current row when you navigate, not just the current row. e.g it read the heading of that column and then the row below it (Heading: episode, row below: 1.1), etc. Also, the tables are titled, e.g one was something like (Seasons Part II, or something). So I think that may be the difference. Regards. Lewis. On 2 Jan 2011, at 18:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Lewis > > On 2 Jan 2011, at 14:46, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> ? I use Safari all the time and I find I am able to use the VO Keys plus command plus T to move forward and VO Keys plus Command plus Shift plus T to move backwards between tables. However, some websites do encode their tables weirdly, which is sometimes why you can't do it. I sometimes find, for example on the Halifax Banking Website, that I can't use this command although I know that the list of my accounts is in a table. > > > Gordon and I use the Halifax site all the time. I'm puzzled by this because the accounts in the accounts list are not in a table at all. They're listed as a "list", rather than a table of links. So no, it's not surprising you can't move by table on this site, as there is no table to navigate. > > For an example of a site which, I believe, has properly coded multiple tables, you can visit one of Gordon's unfinished project sites. It really does work incredibly well with speech as it was designed from the ground up for accessibility. You'll notice that there is something slightly different about the tables as well; see if anybody can spot the difference. :) You can find it here: > and I am sorry if the subject matter doesn't interest you. But the point is that it shows you what VoiceOver can do with tables if they are properly designed. This site is visually appealing but does not compromise accessibility; which shows that it can be done if only people try. > > But anyway, I assure you that, unless you are using a different version of the halifax banking website found at the accounts are not in a table and there is no table there at all. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Jan 2 20:18:39 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:18:39 +0000 Subject: DPS plugin In-Reply-To: References: <7DC46BEA-B521-4C1B-A522-A885F3317B95@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, I will top post. Yes I played with it extensively, and wasn't in the least impressed. D?nal On 2 Jan 2011, at 19:08, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello D?nal > On 2 Jan 2011, at 16:58, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> ? Just wanted to let people know that I've downloaded the trial of this plugin. Don't waste your time. Firstly, lots of the buttons (all of them in fact) are unlabelled. Now one can add labels, as many of them do have "help text". >> > Did you take the time to set up the correct profile? > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com Sun Jan 2 20:38:49 2011 From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (Michael Weaver) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 20:38:49 +0000 Subject: the i-phone and the mac Message-ID: <428451.83118.qm@smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com> hi! my name is michael and i am new to this list. i am also a mac newby and have recently bought my first mac laptop. before i bought my mac i purchased the i-phone which seems to have the 4,1 of the os. when i first connect my i-phone to my laptop to do things like transfering music or updating the operating system of the phone are there many questions i need to answer and also are the screens accessible? i ask because i don't want to start to do something and maybe have to stop halfway through connecting my i-phone the first time i sync the i-phone and the laptop and i dont want to lose important system information on the phone which could affect its use. From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 2 20:57:01 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:57:01 +0000 Subject: the i-phone and the mac In-Reply-To: <428451.83118.qm@smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <428451.83118.qm@smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: HI Michael. I have an iPod Touch, so can therefore answer your question. when you first connect it to the computer, iTunes will open, or you will have to open iTunes. then scroll down to devices and select iPhone, or whatever it is. You will need to set it up if you haven't already by giving it a name and then you just sync your stuff to it. If you want to update the OS, just navigate round until you hear update button. iTunes will notify you if there are any updates and ask you to download them. Click OK and itunes will begin to install the updates on your iPod/iPhone. to find out what is going on, scroll to the LCD Section by using VO and left arrow. Keep doing that until you hear VoiceOver say LCD Section and then interact with it. Then VoiceOver will read what it is doing if you scroll left or right. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 2 Jan 2011, at 20:38, Michael Weaver wrote: > hi! > my name is michael and i am new to this list. > i am also a mac newby and have recently bought my first mac laptop. > before i bought my mac i purchased the i-phone which seems to have the 4,1 of the os. > when i first connect my i-phone to my laptop to do things like transfering music or updating the operating system of the phone are there many questions i need to answer and also are the screens accessible? > i ask because i don't want to start to do something and maybe have to stop halfway through connecting my i-phone the first time i sync the i-phone and the laptop and i dont want to lose important system information on the phone which could affect its use. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 21:23:01 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:23:01 +0000 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: References: <849F8531-DF2F-4218-82F7-19EFB8FE1892@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <12A3AB38-EB9C-4C47-9394-24A0CC4ED94C@mac-access.net> Hello Lewis On 2 Jan 2011, at 20:09, Lewis Crack wrote: > ? Maybe it's the way Internet Explorer shows it with JAWS...oh well... > Thanks for pointing that out. Remember that what you see with JFW and Window-Eyes and so on is not a true rendering of a website, as I understand it. > ? I've looked at Gordon's websites and I think I may have spotted something different. > VoiceOver reads all the contents of the table that are in the current row when you navigate, not just the current row. e.g it read the heading of that column and then the row below it (Heading: episode, row below: 1.1), etc. Isn't that what's supposed to happen? > ? Also, the tables are titled, e.g one was something like (Seasons Part II, or something). > So I think that may be the difference. That is exactly the difference. Instead of just reading table blah blah blah has x rows and x columns, you should hear the title of the table, as in the specific episode titled and the title of each row and column. I'm not bragging or anything, and Gordon will probably strangle me for publicising that site. :) But I often wonder why more people don't use things like table captions when they code their websites. Doesn't it make it easier for screen-reader users? Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 21:25:43 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:25:43 +0000 Subject: DPS plugin In-Reply-To: References: <7DC46BEA-B521-4C1B-A522-A885F3317B95@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello D?nal On 2 Jan 2011, at 20:18, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > ? I will top post. Yes I played with it extensively, and wasn't in the least impressed. > Right, well that's fair enough. We haven't had a chance to play much yet owing to other problems. So I'm not really in much of a position to comment. We will try and do that soon. But if that's the case, we will contact the developers and also the people who do Audio Hijack Pro because they are responsible for the processing technologies behind the plugin. Lynne From support at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 21:29:05 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:29:05 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome [Delayed] Message-ID: Hello everybody I know we're a bit late on this one; so my apologies. Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Michael Weaver to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at support at mac-access.net or our very capable assistant list controller Anne Robertson, anne at anarchie.org.uk and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 2 21:47:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:47:57 -0800 Subject: Articles; confirmation on policy In-Reply-To: <367BE954-1E9A-4B15-8799-0E9E53430155@mac-access.net> References: <948E4A70-205A-4DD4-95D7-BF10277A329D@mac-access.net> <3D9739AE3AEA405790C9A23DDBCE7304@Blossom> <367BE954-1E9A-4B15-8799-0E9E53430155@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1F74A9F1-A1F2-4D58-A7A9-4E4BBF34B199@gmail.com> lol. and as I say to my students, and if you don't like the way I teach then get out. I live by that policy myself. but we so will not go there as of now. lol! I'm still on this list hopefully for the next 200 years. lol! Take care all and hope I find something of interest. I've been resting since yesterday. have fun using your apple devices. On Jan 2, 2011, at 3:05 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Rex > > On 2 Jan 2011, at 10:49, rex holmes wrote: > >> I am quite new, but found the articles really helpful. > > I think your view is probably reflective of the majority of members. I sincerely hope that those who don't agree can still find ways of working around these. Again, Sarah and others are in no way in breech of any policy or guideline. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From simoncavendish at me.com Sun Jan 2 21:56:49 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 21:56:49 +0000 Subject: Articles; confirmation on policy In-Reply-To: <1F74A9F1-A1F2-4D58-A7A9-4E4BBF34B199@gmail.com> References: <948E4A70-205A-4DD4-95D7-BF10277A329D@mac-access.net> <3D9739AE3AEA405790C9A23DDBCE7304@Blossom> <367BE954-1E9A-4B15-8799-0E9E53430155@mac-access.net> <1F74A9F1-A1F2-4D58-A7A9-4E4BBF34B199@gmail.com> Message-ID: <17F82748-5985-4F0A-8A03-A50B06AE860E@me.com> I wouldn't be so sure. On 2 Jan 2011, at 21:47, Sarah Alawami wrote: > lol. and as I say to my students, and if you don't like the way I teach then get out. I live by that policy myself. but we so will not go there as of now. lol! I'm still on this list hopefully for the next 200 years. lol! > > Take care all and hope I find something of interest. I've been resting since yesterday. > > have fun using your apple devices. > > > On Jan 2, 2011, at 3:05 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Rex >> >> On 2 Jan 2011, at 10:49, rex holmes wrote: >> >>> I am quite new, but found the articles really helpful. >> >> I think your view is probably reflective of the majority of members. I sincerely hope that those who don't agree can still find ways of working around these. Again, Sarah and others are in no way in breech of any policy or guideline. >> >> Lynne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 2 22:12:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:12:40 +0000 Subject: Articles; confirmation on policy In-Reply-To: <17F82748-5985-4F0A-8A03-A50B06AE860E@me.com> References: <948E4A70-205A-4DD4-95D7-BF10277A329D@mac-access.net> <3D9739AE3AEA405790C9A23DDBCE7304@Blossom> <367BE954-1E9A-4B15-8799-0E9E53430155@mac-access.net> <1F74A9F1-A1F2-4D58-A7A9-4E4BBF34B199@gmail.com> <17F82748-5985-4F0A-8A03-A50B06AE860E@me.com> Message-ID: <3C6B805D-F480-4B64-882F-1461168351CB@mac-access.net> Hello Simon On 2 Jan 2011, at 21:56, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > ? I wouldn't be so sure. Of what? Lynne From simoncavendish at me.com Sun Jan 2 22:28:19 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:28:19 +0000 Subject: Articles; confirmation on policy In-Reply-To: <3C6B805D-F480-4B64-882F-1461168351CB@mac-access.net> References: <948E4A70-205A-4DD4-95D7-BF10277A329D@mac-access.net> <3D9739AE3AEA405790C9A23DDBCE7304@Blossom> <367BE954-1E9A-4B15-8799-0E9E53430155@mac-access.net> <1F74A9F1-A1F2-4D58-A7A9-4E4BBF34B199@gmail.com> <17F82748-5985-4F0A-8A03-A50B06AE860E@me.com> <3C6B805D-F480-4B64-882F-1461168351CB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Dear Lynne and Listers, apologies for this posting: I had text on my clipboard ready for a different message which I was composing when SAra's message came through and I felt nosey enough to read it. I emant to say thank you to her. I do apologise to SAra and the listers for the the response I had sent. I would not wish to misrepresent Sara's posting in any way. Simon On 2 Jan 2011, at 22:12, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Simon > > On 2 Jan 2011, at 21:56, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > >> ? I wouldn't be so sure. > > Of what? > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 2 22:42:13 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:42:13 +0000 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: <12A3AB38-EB9C-4C47-9394-24A0CC4ED94C@mac-access.net> References: <849F8531-DF2F-4218-82F7-19EFB8FE1892@googlemail.com> <12A3AB38-EB9C-4C47-9394-24A0CC4ED94C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7E26DC19-8A0F-471A-9BBF-42E8F788F0AD@googlemail.com> Hi Lynne. Yeah that is correct about JFW and Window-Eyes. Yes it is, but maybe I haven't really noticed it that well. I speed around my computer way too fast! Lol. Table captioning would make things so much easier for screen reader users because there could be many tables on a webpage, as there are on eBay and the person isn't going to know what table they are on until they have interacted with it. Plus, if the table is titled, it automatically gives the user an idea of what the table may contain. Regards. Lewis. PS. I'm sure Gordon will be perfectly fine about you publicising his website. Afterall, you were using it for a good example. On 2 Jan 2011, at 21:23, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Lewis > > On 2 Jan 2011, at 20:09, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> ? Maybe it's the way Internet Explorer shows it with JAWS...oh well... >> Thanks for pointing that out. > > Remember that what you see with JFW and Window-Eyes and so on is not a true rendering of a website, as I understand it. > >> ? I've looked at Gordon's websites and I think I may have spotted something different. >> VoiceOver reads all the contents of the table that are in the current row when you navigate, not just the current row. e.g it read the heading of that column and then the row below it (Heading: episode, row below: 1.1), etc. > > Isn't that what's supposed to happen? > >> ? Also, the tables are titled, e.g one was something like (Seasons Part II, or something). >> So I think that may be the difference. > > That is exactly the difference. Instead of just reading table blah blah blah has x rows and x columns, you should hear the title of the table, as in the specific episode titled and the title of each row and column. I'm not bragging or anything, and Gordon will probably strangle me for publicising that site. :) But I often wonder why more people don't use things like table captions when they code their websites. Doesn't it make it easier for screen-reader users? > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 00:08:21 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:08:21 -0800 Subject: Articles; confirmation on policy In-Reply-To: References: <948E4A70-205A-4DD4-95D7-BF10277A329D@mac-access.net> <3D9739AE3AEA405790C9A23DDBCE7304@Blossom> <367BE954-1E9A-4B15-8799-0E9E53430155@mac-access.net> <1F74A9F1-A1F2-4D58-A7A9-4E4BBF34B199@gmail.com> <17F82748-5985-4F0A-8A03-A50B06AE860E@me.com> <3C6B805D-F480-4B64-882F-1461168351CB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hey all of us make mistakes don't worry about it. Take care all. and happy using apple devices. s On Jan 2, 2011, at 2:28 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > Dear Lynne and Listers, > > apologies for this posting: I had text on my clipboard ready for a different message which I was composing when SAra's message came through and I felt nosey enough to read it. I emant to say thank you to her. I do apologise to SAra and the listers for the the response I had sent. I would not wish to misrepresent Sara's posting in any way. > > Simon > On 2 Jan 2011, at 22:12, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Simon >> >> On 2 Jan 2011, at 21:56, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >> >>> ? I wouldn't be so sure. >> >> Of what? >> >> Lynne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 00:30:17 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:30:17 -0800 Subject: Apple support company sues customer for complaining Message-ID: Does this company have the right to sue this customer? read more: http://bit.ly/feIfvP From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Mon Jan 3 00:50:17 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 00:50:17 +0000 Subject: Input mic problem Message-ID: <622EACDB-A7E4-4968-9C3D-1B35EC8D6873@gmail.com> Hi All! Ok although some people would be grateful that they could not hear me speak! My problem is both the headphone and the Imac Microphone input does not seem to be working! I've had a look around to see if there is a mute mic button anywhere or turn mic on or off and cannot find anything like that! So does anyone know if there is such a thing or have I got a Mac problem to get fixed! Any help welcome! Or you could save the world from my voice [ its over to you] All the best :] Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! From billd at insightbb.com Mon Jan 3 02:01:47 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:01:47 -0500 Subject: now on Skipe Message-ID: <1829E848-32D9-4450-9F4D-05DFE4B3C8A9@insightbb.com> Hello to all, I finally got on Skipe tonight. I talked to my wife who was sitting across the room from me. The only problem i had with sitting it up was on the Skipe web-sight. My sister-in-law who also has a Mac helped me with that part. so here is another adventure. I would also like to thank Mike for doing the pod-cast on the mac. I listened to the one on Skipe. those pod-casts have been very helpful Bill Deatherage From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 02:44:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:44:48 -0800 Subject: Input mic problem In-Reply-To: <622EACDB-A7E4-4968-9C3D-1B35EC8D6873@gmail.com> References: <622EACDB-A7E4-4968-9C3D-1B35EC8D6873@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A935A30-EC1E-4130-92EF-C1AE51604329@gmail.com> Are you sliders at 100 percent? this could be why. I'm just guessing. and be sure that sound flower is not selected as the input. S On Jan 2, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi All! > Ok although some people would be grateful that they could not hear me speak! > My problem is both the headphone and the Imac Microphone input does not seem to be working! > I've had a look around to see if there is a mute mic button anywhere or turn mic on or off and cannot find anything like that! > So does anyone know if there is such a thing or have I got a Mac problem to get fixed! > Any help welcome! > Or you could save the world from my voice [ its over to you] > All the best :] > Colin > I'm far too bad for Heaven! > The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 02:44:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:44:48 -0800 Subject: Input mic problem In-Reply-To: <622EACDB-A7E4-4968-9C3D-1B35EC8D6873@gmail.com> References: <622EACDB-A7E4-4968-9C3D-1B35EC8D6873@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A935A30-EC1E-4130-92EF-C1AE51604329@gmail.com> Are you sliders at 100 percent? this could be why. I'm just guessing. and be sure that sound flower is not selected as the input. S On Jan 2, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi All! > Ok although some people would be grateful that they could not hear me speak! > My problem is both the headphone and the Imac Microphone input does not seem to be working! > I've had a look around to see if there is a mute mic button anywhere or turn mic on or off and cannot find anything like that! > So does anyone know if there is such a thing or have I got a Mac problem to get fixed! > Any help welcome! > Or you could save the world from my voice [ its over to you] > All the best :] > Colin > I'm far too bad for Heaven! > The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From billd at insightbb.com Mon Jan 3 04:44:48 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 23:44:48 -0500 Subject: using voice over and Skype Message-ID: <321D3C6A-5330-4030-BA27-10D90079F1EF@insightbb.com> Hello, I was wondering how to get to Contacts in skipe and how to answer calls in skype? Thanks for the information in advance. Bill Deatherage From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 05:15:28 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:15:28 -0800 Subject: using voice over and Skype In-Reply-To: <321D3C6A-5330-4030-BA27-10D90079F1EF@insightbb.com> References: <321D3C6A-5330-4030-BA27-10D90079F1EF@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <6517FD50-82DB-476A-8199-20D305EA4A3C@gmail.com> There's an answer button tht will pop up but if you are using not the public beta contacts I think is cmd 1 but since I use the beta not sure. lol! On Jan 2, 2011, at 8:44 PM, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I was wondering how to get to Contacts in skipe and how to answer calls in skype? > Thanks for the information in advance. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 06:58:13 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 06:58:13 +0000 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: <7E26DC19-8A0F-471A-9BBF-42E8F788F0AD@googlemail.com> References: <849F8531-DF2F-4218-82F7-19EFB8FE1892@googlemail.com> <12A3AB38-EB9C-4C47-9394-24A0CC4ED94C@mac-access.net> <7E26DC19-8A0F-471A-9BBF-42E8F788F0AD@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hello Lewis On 2 Jan 2011, at 22:42, Lewis Crack wrote: > ? Yeah that is correct about JFW and Window-Eyes. > Yes it is, but maybe I haven't really noticed it that well. I speed around my computer way too fast! Lol. VoiceOver, as I understand it, gives you a "SYSIWYG" interface. When I am testing a page for, or using a page with Gordon, I turn on VoiceOver and the look of the page doesn't change one little jot. I see objects and links in exactly the same places as I see them when VoiceOver is turned off. That was never the case with our old systems. In fact, just turning on the screen-reader and working alongside Gordon was a major operation because you have to do things so much differently in Windows with a screen-reader present. Yes; you can use a mouse. But the look of the screen itself often changes and buttons, icons and other objects are different. Clicks do different things sometimes as well. But VoiceOver is a pleasure to work with when you're visually abled as I am. Gordon and I often work with 2 keyboards connected to our Mac, believe it or not. No, of course we can't work on different things that way at the same time. But it does mean we don't have to keep playing pass the parcel with the computer itself. We have developed our own system of working together which, while it may seem odd to outsiders, works for us. Usually we don't get in each other's way and we can usually work together productively. But we also have our own Macs, so that on those occasions when we both need computer access, that's no problem; and we can share our networked hard drives and other resources. You simply can't do that with Windows where screen-readers are necessary. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I admire all blind and disabled people who overcome their disabilities and work with the outside world as part of their daily lives. Particularly I admire those people who demonstrate a willingness to work with those people who don't have their disability. Those people's computing lives are made so much easier by using Macs, where coexistence is seamless. Your Windows web experience is, of course, outside of the scope of this group. But Lewis; let me tell you something. Using Windows and a screen-reader, the look of that Halifax online website is completely different to that which the visual user gets, and that which the VoiceOver user gets. I urge you to be brave enough to rely on VoiceOver, and drop Windows. I know; sometimes it's a difficult transition. But based on Gordon's experience, it can be done. He never ever uses the Internet from Windows now. In fact, he rarely uses Windows at all, save for Braille translation and DAISY publication which I need him to do for my business. > ? Table captioning would make things so much easier for screen reader users because there could be many tables on a webpage, as there are on eBay and the person isn't going to know what table they are on until they have interacted with it. > Plus, if the table is titled, it automatically gives the user an idea of what the table may contain. Table captions are effectively what you call a "title" the caption is a text element which you can position anywhere in the table. For instance, it can exist at the bottom and or top, even at the side I think. Gordon places the captions at the top of a table so that it looks visually right, and when you encounter it with a screen-reader, it looks like a title. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 07:14:05 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 07:14:05 +0000 Subject: Apple support company sues customer for complaining In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <655AC60A-7324-4751-B30A-D603C4D3B922@mac-access.net> On 3 Jan 2011, at 00:30, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Does this company have the right to sue this customer? read more: I sincerely hope they lose! This is quite disgusting and I hope Apple does terminate their contact with this group. Apple should not be associated with such behaviour as it's clearly against the public mood and Apple can't afford to lose the backing of the public. After all, Apple relies on the public for its income. Apple is currently enjoying a market grows and doesn't need this incident to dent its =growing reputation. I know of one person monitoring this group whose comments I would love to hear, even privately. I'm sure he knows who I mean and he can be assured of discretion. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 07:16:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 07:16:31 +0000 Subject: Input mic problem In-Reply-To: <622EACDB-A7E4-4968-9C3D-1B35EC8D6873@gmail.com> References: <622EACDB-A7E4-4968-9C3D-1B35EC8D6873@gmail.com> Message-ID: <186D53CB-BFDA-4537-BB31-088145EF1E40@mac-access.net> Colin How many sockets are on the rear of the new iMac? There used to be 2; but I'm wondering if they have split the socket's functionality as they have on the MBP 13-inch. Lynne On 3 Jan 2011, at 00:50, Colin M wrote: > Hi All! > Ok although some people would be grateful that they could not hear me speak! > My problem is both the headphone and the Imac Microphone input does not seem to be working! > I've had a look around to see if there is a mute mic button anywhere or turn mic on or off and cannot find anything like that! > So does anyone know if there is such a thing or have I got a Mac problem to get fixed! > Any help welcome! > Or you could save the world from my voice [ its over to you] > All the best :] > Colin > I'm far too bad for Heaven! > The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From a.beech at bigpond.net.au Mon Jan 3 07:10:41 2011 From: a.beech at bigpond.net.au (Adrian Beech) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:10:41 +1000 Subject: Accessible chess for the Mac and iPhone? Message-ID: <002d01cbab15$5516c690$ff4453b0$@bigpond.net.au> G'day all, I'm presently on the hunt for an accessible chess game for both my Mac Mini (running Os/X Snow Leopard Server) and iPhone 4. Do such beasts exist? Thanks for your help. Cheers. AB From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 07:45:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 23:45:39 -0800 Subject: Apple support company sues customer for complaining In-Reply-To: <655AC60A-7324-4751-B30A-D603C4D3B922@mac-access.net> References: <655AC60A-7324-4751-B30A-D603C4D3B922@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Oh I agree. i was quite disgusted when I read about that. I hope that if i ever travel abroad i get better service with my apple products, or any products then that! S On Jan 2, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > On 3 Jan 2011, at 00:30, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Does this company have the right to sue this customer? read more: > > I sincerely hope they lose! This is quite disgusting and I hope Apple does terminate their contact with this group. Apple should not be associated with such behavior as it's clearly against the public mood and Apple can't afford to lose the backing of the public. After all, Apple relies on the public for its income. Apple is currently enjoying a market grows and doesn't need this incident to dent its =growing reputation. > > I know of one person monitoring this group whose comments I would love to hear, even privately. I'm sure he knows who I mean and he can be assured of discretion. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 07:47:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 23:47:50 -0800 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: References: <849F8531-DF2F-4218-82F7-19EFB8FE1892@googlemail.com> <12A3AB38-EB9C-4C47-9394-24A0CC4ED94C@mac-access.net> <7E26DC19-8A0F-471A-9BBF-42E8F788F0AD@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1E80D487-0F72-4277-BF87-796E0588433D@gmail.com> I'll have to dig out my old html book again! Growl!. yeah my sister has to use my mac but for some reason she insist I turn vo off for her before she will even touch the thing. I don't mind but yeah. Good luck with your tables question S On Jan 2, 2011, at 10:58 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Lewis > > On 2 Jan 2011, at 22:42, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> ? Yeah that is correct about JFW and Window-Eyes. >> Yes it is, but maybe I haven't really noticed it that well. I speed around my computer way too fast! Lol. > > VoiceOver, as I understand it, gives you a "SYSIWYG" interface. When I am testing a page for, or using a page with Gordon, I turn on VoiceOver and the look of the page doesn't change one little jot. I see objects and links in exactly the same places as I see them when VoiceOver is turned off. That was never the case with our old systems. > > In fact, just turning on the screen-reader and working alongside Gordon was a major operation because you have to do things so much differently in Windows with a screen-reader present. > > Yes; you can use a mouse. But the look of the screen itself often changes and buttons, icons and other objects are different. Clicks do different things sometimes as well. > > But VoiceOver is a pleasure to work with when you're visually abled as I am. Gordon and I often work with 2 keyboards connected to our Mac, believe it or not. No, of course we can't work on different things that way at the same time. But it does mean we don't have to keep playing pass the parcel with the computer itself. We have developed our own system of working together which, while it may seem odd to outsiders, works for us. Usually we don't get in each other's way and we can usually work together productively. But we also have our own Macs, so that on those occasions when we both need computer access, that's no problem; and we can share our networked hard drives and other resources. > > You simply can't do that with Windows where screen-readers are necessary. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I admire all blind and disabled people who overcome their disabilities and work with the outside world as part of their daily lives. Particularly I admire those people who demonstrate a willingness to work with those people who don't have their disability. Those people's computing lives are made so much easier by using Macs, where coexistence is seamless. > > Your Windows web experience is, of course, outside of the scope of this group. But Lewis; let me tell you something. Using Windows and a screen-reader, the look of that Halifax online website is completely different to that which the visual user gets, and that which the VoiceOver user gets. I urge you to be brave enough to rely on VoiceOver, and drop Windows. I know; sometimes it's a difficult transition. But based on Gordon's experience, it can be done. He never ever uses the Internet from Windows now. > > In fact, he rarely uses Windows at all, save for Braille translation and DAISY publication which I need him to do for my business. > >> ? Table captioning would make things so much easier for screen reader users because there could be many tables on a webpage, as there are on eBay and the person isn't going to know what table they are on until they have interacted with it. >> Plus, if the table is titled, it automatically gives the user an idea of what the table may contain. > > Table captions are effectively what you call a "title" the caption is a text element which you can position anywhere in the table. For instance, it can exist at the bottom and or top, even at the side I think. Gordon places the captions at the top of a table so that it looks visually right, and when you encounter it with a screen-reader, it looks like a title. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From a.beech at bigpond.net.au Mon Jan 3 09:27:34 2011 From: a.beech at bigpond.net.au (Adrian Beech) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 09:27:34 -0000 Subject: Accessible chess for the Mac and iPhone? Message-ID: <000001c19203$f4b5b1f0$de2115d0$@bigpond.net.au> G'day all, I'm presently on the hunt for an accessible chess game for both my Mac Mini (running Os/X Snow Leopard Server) and iPhone 4. Do such beasts exist? Thanks for your help. Cheers. AB From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 09:31:46 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:31:46 +0000 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: <1E80D487-0F72-4277-BF87-796E0588433D@gmail.com> References: <849F8531-DF2F-4218-82F7-19EFB8FE1892@googlemail.com> <12A3AB38-EB9C-4C47-9394-24A0CC4ED94C@mac-access.net> <7E26DC19-8A0F-471A-9BBF-42E8F788F0AD@googlemail.com> <1E80D487-0F72-4277-BF87-796E0588433D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <477F7C8B-DC9E-4D50-9CF2-05D457BB9A61@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah On 3 Jan 2011, at 07:47, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'll have to dig out my old html book again! Growl!. > Why? :) > yeah my sister has to use my mac but for some reason she insist I turn vo off for her before she will even touch the thing. I don't mind but yeah. > > Good luck with your tables question > I wasn't actually asking a tables question. Gordon knows how to do that. VoiceOver really doesn't get in the way when you're working with vision. You know it is there unless you do as Gordon does, turn off the display of the VoiceOver cursor and all the Braille stuff. With that turned off it looks exactly the same with or without VoiceOver. Now; our latest project is playing with 2 Slingboxes on our 2 networks with the Mac. Gordon and I are trying to figure out a way of recording the video streamed to the Mac by the Slingbox. Frustratingly there doesn't seem to be a utility that we can find for the Mac to do that job. I found one for Windows and it works very well. But we don't often use Windows, grrrr. Lynne From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com Mon Jan 3 09:46:28 2011 From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (Michael Weaver) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 09:46:28 +0000 Subject: an i-tunes problem Message-ID: <528780.97933.qm@smtp822.mail.ird.yahoo.com> i have a problem in i-tunes and i am not sure how to rectify it. i put in a cd and it came up with two album names although it didn't come up with the exact name which is "call off the search." it came up with "katie melua" and "piece by piece" and i accidentally selected the wrong one. my question is how do i import the cd and not get the wrong name? it is now deciding to call "call off the search" "piece by piece." i tried doing a reset in the i-tunes preferences useing the reset button only it didn't do anything at all. From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Jan 3 10:10:03 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:10:03 +0000 Subject: Accessible chess for the Mac and iPhone? In-Reply-To: <002d01cbab15$5516c690$ff4453b0$@bigpond.net.au> References: <002d01cbab15$5516c690$ff4453b0$@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: your Mac already comes with an accessible Chess game, just look in your applications folder, it is there and totally VO accessible. On 3 Jan 2011, at 07:10, Adrian Beech wrote: > G'day all, > > I'm presently on the hunt for an accessible chess game for both my Mac Mini > (running Os/X Snow Leopard Server) and iPhone 4. Do such beasts exist? > > Thanks for your help. > > Cheers. > AB > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 10:34:16 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:34:16 +0000 Subject: an i-tunes problem In-Reply-To: <528780.97933.qm@smtp822.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <528780.97933.qm@smtp822.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Michael If you've already imported it, try doing so again from the iTunes Store menu or advanced, I forget at the moment which it is; I think it's under advanced. It is possible that your exact album may not be listed; in which case you'll need to manually edit the album data. With the CD highlighted, press Command+I which will bring up the Info tabs. I'm not in front of our domestic Mac just at the moment; so I can't check. But that's from memory. Lynne On 3 Jan 2011, at 09:46, Michael Weaver wrote: > i have a problem in i-tunes and i am not sure how to rectify it. > i put in a cd and it came up with two album names although it didn't come up with the exact name which is "call off the search." > it came up with "katie melua" and "piece by piece" and i accidentally selected the wrong one. > my question is how do i import the cd and not get the wrong name? > it is now deciding to call "call off the search" "piece by piece." > i tried doing a reset in the i-tunes preferences useing the reset button only it didn't do anything at all. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Jan 3 11:16:58 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:16:58 +0000 Subject: Accessible chess for the Mac and iPhone? In-Reply-To: <000001c19203$f4b5b1f0$de2115d0$@bigpond.net.au> References: <000001c19203$f4b5b1f0$de2115d0$@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: there is a chess game built in to the o s and if you set up the preforances it does read the moves out and stuff. Ian McNamara From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com Mon Jan 3 12:14:46 2011 From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (Michael Weaver) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 12:14:46 +0000 Subject: music not transfering to i-phone Message-ID: <107046.24960.qm@smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com> i have just updated my i-phone via the mac and i-tunes. i have looked at the i-pod app on the phone and there seems to be no music yet i have songs in my i-tunes library. i don't know why they have not transfered to the i-pod app yet my email account for bt has transfered the settings as i just received an email which someone posted to this list. is the i-pod app only for music which has been downloaded from the app store? if not i don't know why music hasn't transfered from my i-tunes library to the phone. From helianthe at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 12:29:22 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:29:22 +0100 Subject: music not transfering to i-phone In-Reply-To: <107046.24960.qm@smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <107046.24960.qm@smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D21C122.1050808@mac-access.net> Michael, I think there is a bug regarding this matter. I know this has been previously discussed on the list and someone actually gave a work-around but I can't remember the exact procedure. I am sure someone will get back with you on this and actually, I would be interested myself as I am very likely to transfer music onto my Iphone and Ipod and I wouldn't remember what to do in the event of a new OS update. So, if anyone can remember the procedure, that would be greatly appreciated here as well. Lyn & Twinny From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 12:26:13 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:26:13 +0100 Subject: music not transfering to i-phone In-Reply-To: <4D21C122.1050808@mac-access.net> References: <107046.24960.qm@smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4D21C122.1050808@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello! Simply sync your phone a single time and you should be good to go. The music is actually still there, but there is a bug causing them not to show up. Your settings should still be retained. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Mon Jan 3 12:41:53 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:41:53 +0000 Subject: Input mic problem In-Reply-To: <4A935A30-EC1E-4130-92EF-C1AE51604329@gmail.com> References: <622EACDB-A7E4-4968-9C3D-1B35EC8D6873@gmail.com> <4A935A30-EC1E-4130-92EF-C1AE51604329@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7B146A2E-0671-4C9C-A8D2-80F15260CE0C@gmail.com> Hi Sarah! Ok my fault again! I should also have said that I have not added or changed any software or had any updates either! The mic worked fine before newyear's day and now it does not! I do not have sound flower or hijack or any others on my Mac! The levels are at the same as when the mic worked! Thanks Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 3 Jan 2011, at 02:44, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Are you sliders at 100 percent? this could be why. I'm just guessing. and be sure that sound flower is not selected as the input. > > S > On Jan 2, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi All! >> Ok although some people would be grateful that they could not hear me speak! >> My problem is both the headphone and the Imac Microphone input does not seem to be working! >> I've had a look around to see if there is a mute mic button anywhere or turn mic on or off and cannot find anything like that! >> So does anyone know if there is such a thing or have I got a Mac problem to get fixed! >> Any help welcome! >> Or you could save the world from my voice [ its over to you] >> All the best :] >> Colin >> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Mon Jan 3 12:51:55 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:51:55 +0000 Subject: Input mic problem In-Reply-To: <186D53CB-BFDA-4537-BB31-088145EF1E40@mac-access.net> References: <622EACDB-A7E4-4968-9C3D-1B35EC8D6873@gmail.com> <186D53CB-BFDA-4537-BB31-088145EF1E40@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <36F4F330-A2DD-4990-8F2E-315A25060363@gmail.com> Hi Lynne! Yes there are 2 sockets and the headphones I'm using are split jacks they had been working ok right up to just before new years day! But I do not think its a headphone problem because after unplugging them the Imac's mic does not work either! I have no software updates or installed any new software or changed any of the settings it just stopped working! I can still get sound through the headphones ok! And the levels are the same as when the mic worked! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 3 Jan 2011, at 07:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Colin > > How many sockets are on the rear of the new iMac? There used to be 2; but I'm wondering if they have split the socket's functionality as they have on the MBP 13-inch. > > Lynne > > On 3 Jan 2011, at 00:50, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi All! >> Ok although some people would be grateful that they could not hear me speak! >> My problem is both the headphone and the Imac Microphone input does not seem to be working! >> I've had a look around to see if there is a mute mic button anywhere or turn mic on or off and cannot find anything like that! >> So does anyone know if there is such a thing or have I got a Mac problem to get fixed! >> Any help welcome! >> Or you could save the world from my voice [ its over to you] >> All the best :] >> Colin >> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Mon Jan 3 13:56:49 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:56:49 -0400 Subject: Skype and an iPhone 4 problem Message-ID: <0472FA688B4D438594909BC44BEA2517@CNIBnotebook> Hi Folks: When I lonch Skype on my iPhone, it accesses the 3G network rather than my router. How can i rectify this problem? Thanks gang. From support at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 15:04:50 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:04:50 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <61AB4781-A81B-406F-A492-8DDBD805551E@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Tom Civitello to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. 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For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 15:08:18 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:08:18 +0000 Subject: music not transfering to i-phone In-Reply-To: <107046.24960.qm@smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <107046.24960.qm@smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello NMichel Sometimes you need to manually sync the iPod after a major update. Try that and it should, mark you I said should, fix your problem. Lynne On 3 Jan 2011, at 12:14, Michael Weaver wrote: > i have just updated my i-phone via the mac and i-tunes. > i have looked at the i-pod app on the phone and there seems to be no music yet i have songs in my i-tunes library. > i don't know why they have not transfered to the i-pod app yet my email account for bt has transfered the settings as i just received an email which someone posted to this list. > is the i-pod app only for music which has been downloaded from the app store? > if not i don't know why music hasn't transfered from my i-tunes library to the phone. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 15:12:34 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:12:34 +0000 Subject: Input mic problem In-Reply-To: <7B146A2E-0671-4C9C-A8D2-80F15260CE0C@gmail.com> References: <622EACDB-A7E4-4968-9C3D-1B35EC8D6873@gmail.com> <4A935A30-EC1E-4130-92EF-C1AE51604329@gmail.com> <7B146A2E-0671-4C9C-A8D2-80F15260CE0C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6922EB7E-0C5E-4DDC-A985-4B6300DCF923@mac-access.net> Hello Colin I am not Sarah; but in system preferences > Sound, make sure your active input device is set to Microphone. If not, it won't work. Lynne On 3 Jan 2011, at 12:41, Colin M wrote: > Hi Sarah! > Ok my fault again! > I should also have said that I have not added or changed any software or had any updates either! > The mic worked fine before newyear's day and now it does not! > I do not have sound flower or hijack or any others on my Mac! > The levels are at the same as when the mic worked! > Thanks Colin > I'm far too bad for Heaven! > The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Mon Jan 3 15:39:20 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:39:20 +0000 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: References: <849F8531-DF2F-4218-82F7-19EFB8FE1892@googlemail.com> <12A3AB38-EB9C-4C47-9394-24A0CC4ED94C@mac-access.net> <7E26DC19-8A0F-471A-9BBF-42E8F788F0AD@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <10CBE998-F681-4E67-A109-F8ED009ADFD5@googlemail.com> Hi Lynne. That was a very interesting email. My parents and sisters did say that when I was using JAWS, my screen didn't look anything like the screen reader was showing. However, i let my dad use my Mac for Internet browsing once, and he said to me that the screen looks just like the way VoiceOver is viewing it. As to web browsing on the Mac, I am finally coming to terms with it and I am beginning to love Web Browsing with VoiceOver. I try not to use Windows unless necessary (which is at college, or for a chat site that has a program that is not compatible with Mac yet.). It does help a lot when a sighted person can follow the screen when a screen reader is running. Best regards. Lewis. On 3 Jan 2011, at 06:58, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Lewis > > On 2 Jan 2011, at 22:42, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> ? Yeah that is correct about JFW and Window-Eyes. >> Yes it is, but maybe I haven't really noticed it that well. I speed around my computer way too fast! Lol. > > VoiceOver, as I understand it, gives you a "SYSIWYG" interface. When I am testing a page for, or using a page with Gordon, I turn on VoiceOver and the look of the page doesn't change one little jot. I see objects and links in exactly the same places as I see them when VoiceOver is turned off. That was never the case with our old systems. > > In fact, just turning on the screen-reader and working alongside Gordon was a major operation because you have to do things so much differently in Windows with a screen-reader present. > > Yes; you can use a mouse. But the look of the screen itself often changes and buttons, icons and other objects are different. Clicks do different things sometimes as well. > > But VoiceOver is a pleasure to work with when you're visually abled as I am. Gordon and I often work with 2 keyboards connected to our Mac, believe it or not. No, of course we can't work on different things that way at the same time. But it does mean we don't have to keep playing pass the parcel with the computer itself. We have developed our own system of working together which, while it may seem odd to outsiders, works for us. Usually we don't get in each other's way and we can usually work together productively. But we also have our own Macs, so that on those occasions when we both need computer access, that's no problem; and we can share our networked hard drives and other resources. > > You simply can't do that with Windows where screen-readers are necessary. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I admire all blind and disabled people who overcome their disabilities and work with the outside world as part of their daily lives. Particularly I admire those people who demonstrate a willingness to work with those people who don't have their disability. Those people's computing lives are made so much easier by using Macs, where coexistence is seamless. > > Your Windows web experience is, of course, outside of the scope of this group. But Lewis; let me tell you something. Using Windows and a screen-reader, the look of that Halifax online website is completely different to that which the visual user gets, and that which the VoiceOver user gets. I urge you to be brave enough to rely on VoiceOver, and drop Windows. I know; sometimes it's a difficult transition. But based on Gordon's experience, it can be done. He never ever uses the Internet from Windows now. > > In fact, he rarely uses Windows at all, save for Braille translation and DAISY publication which I need him to do for my business. > >> ? Table captioning would make things so much easier for screen reader users because there could be many tables on a webpage, as there are on eBay and the person isn't going to know what table they are on until they have interacted with it. >> Plus, if the table is titled, it automatically gives the user an idea of what the table may contain. > > Table captions are effectively what you call a "title" the caption is a text element which you can position anywhere in the table. For instance, it can exist at the bottom and or top, even at the side I think. Gordon places the captions at the top of a table so that it looks visually right, and when you encounter it with a screen-reader, it looks like a title. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Mon Jan 3 15:52:47 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:52:47 +0000 Subject: music not transfering to i-phone In-Reply-To: <107046.24960.qm@smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <107046.24960.qm@smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5D7DFE57-2467-4AD2-A299-A93B33A6F535@googlemail.com> HI Michael. I had this same problem. You have to select the Music Radio button, then go to the scroll area, and interact with it. Then you tick the box that says Sync Music and then stop interacting with the scroll area and interact with the Capacity Bar Section, and press Apply. Your Music should then start syncing. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 3 Jan 2011, at 12:14, Michael Weaver wrote: > i have just updated my i-phone via the mac and i-tunes. > i have looked at the i-pod app on the phone and there seems to be no music yet i have songs in my i-tunes library. > i don't know why they have not transfered to the i-pod app yet my email account for bt has transfered the settings as i just received an email which someone posted to this list. > is the i-pod app only for music which has been downloaded from the app store? > if not i don't know why music hasn't transfered from my i-tunes library to the phone. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Mon Jan 3 16:07:48 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:07:48 +0000 Subject: using voice over and Skype In-Reply-To: <321D3C6A-5330-4030-BA27-10D90079F1EF@insightbb.com> References: <321D3C6A-5330-4030-BA27-10D90079F1EF@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <74BE2E52-12BE-4F24-AB5B-CCAD8E76F97A@googlemail.com> HI Bill. to get to your contacts on Skype, press VO and Right Arrow and keep doing this until you hear it say, Table. No Selection. As to answering calls, a window should appear saying that someone is calling, press VO and right Arrow until you hit the Answer Button. Press VO and Space to activate the button and you will be in the call! The same thing will happen when you receive a request from someone who is adding you. If you know the person is from the Mac List etc or you want to accept them, just press VO and Right Arrow until you hear, OK Button. You can also set Skype up so that VoiceOver tells you wen people are Online, Offline, Calling, sending a chat, etc. You do this by going to the preferences and going to Notifications. Once there, you will see a dropdown menu with the different options, for each option, make sure that play sound and speak text is checked. Hope this helps answer your question and a little more! Lewis. PS, if you want to add me to Skype for more help, my Skype name is: lewiscrack. Simply go to contacts menu, add a contact, type the skype name in the search field and press search and the results will appear in a table. Scroll to Add Contact button when you have the right person and then scroll to OK again. VoiceOver will say that the contact has been added. On 3 Jan 2011, at 04:44, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I was wondering how to get to Contacts in skipe and how to answer calls in skype? > Thanks for the information in advance. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com Mon Jan 3 16:12:48 2011 From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (Michael Weaver) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:12:48 +0000 Subject: music not transfering to i-phone Message-ID: <372610.63214.qm@smtp815.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> thanks for all your suggestions. my befriender who has a mac suggested another way that i had forgotten about which i had used briefly when i used windows i-tunes with an i-pod nano. it is to go to the music library, select all, copy, go to the device where the i-phone is in and paste. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: Lewis Crack To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Date sent: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:52:47 +0000 >Subject: Re: music not transfering to i-phone >HI Michael. >I had this same problem. >You have to select the Music Radio button, then go to the scroll area, and interact with it. Then you tick the box that says Sync Music and then stop interacting with the scroll area and interact with the Capacity Bar Section, and press Apply. >Your Music should then start syncing. >Hope this helps. >Lewis. >On 3 Jan 2011, at 12:14, Michael Weaver wrote: >> i have just updated my i-phone via the mac and i-tunes. >> i have looked at the i-pod app on the phone and there seems to be no music yet i have songs in my i-tunes library. >> i don't know why they have not transfered to the i-pod app yet my email account for bt has transfered the settings as i just received an email which someone posted to this list. >> is the i-pod app only for music which has been downloaded from the app store? >> if not i don't know why music hasn't transfered from my i-tunes library to the phone. >> _______________________________________________ >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >_______________________________________________ >To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 16:47:18 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:47:18 +0000 Subject: tables in latest Safari In-Reply-To: <10CBE998-F681-4E67-A109-F8ED009ADFD5@googlemail.com> References: <849F8531-DF2F-4218-82F7-19EFB8FE1892@googlemail.com> <12A3AB38-EB9C-4C47-9394-24A0CC4ED94C@mac-access.net> <7E26DC19-8A0F-471A-9BBF-42E8F788F0AD@googlemail.com> <10CBE998-F681-4E67-A109-F8ED009ADFD5@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <40B13A85-53D8-45B3-AA15-AEAC46B852F3@mac-access.net> Hello Lewis On 3 Jan 2011, at 15:39, Lewis Crack wrote: > > ? That was a very interesting email. I'm glad you found it so. > ? My parents and sisters did say that when I was using JAWS, my screen didn't look anything like the screen reader was showing. However, i let my dad use my Mac for Internet browsing once, and he said to me that the screen looks just like the way VoiceOver is viewing it. > When you use JFW or similar the screen is totally re-rendered as I said earlier. That's what I think they call the MSAA buffer. VoiceOver doesn't use that and it doesn't cause any re-rendering to happen as far as I know. It makes life much easier in lots of ways. Why would you want a website in a simple vertical page? Where's the dynamic approach in that? > ? As to web browsing on the Mac, I am finally coming to terms with it and I am beginning to love Web Browsing with VoiceOver. > I try not to use Windows unless necessary (which is at college, or for a chat site that has a program that is not compatible with Mac yet.). > It does help a lot when a sighted person can follow the screen when a screen reader is running. The more you practice and get yourself away from the concept of the buffered website to which blind people have been so used for a long time, it seems, the better. Personally I just cannot understand why Microsoft and the Windows developers decided to totally re-write the script when it comes to web browsing. It makes the work of a web designer somewhat superfluous and I think it makes people lazy to be honest. Gordon had a big disagreement a little while ago with a dealer who sells a lot of stuff in the access industry. He is simply not prepared to come to terms with the fact that the Mac offers viable competition. I supposed he has his own reasons; but then again, misleading people for one's own personal gain is a little be naughty I think. Actually we looked at his website at the weekend and its simply a mess. Visually it has no appeal whatsoever. His shopping page is a joke. You may as well have simply imported a text file and left it at that. I suppose that in Windows it would have looked alright to the screen-reader user because everything is re-rendered anyway. But to the visual user and, I must say, to the VoiceOver user as well, it looks just like a text file; and a badly written one at that. Anyway I am babbling again. Lynne From gunn at tznet.com Mon Jan 3 17:31:12 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (gunn at tznet.com) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:31:12 -0500 Subject: Skype and an iPhone 4 problem Message-ID: <380-22011113173112713@M2W136.mail2web.com> Jim: A few suggestions, presuming you have good signal strength I would try some web sights and if they come up slow, for whatever reason WIFI isn't being accessed. Make sure all computers are turned off and try rebooting the router seeing if this resolves this. Take care, John Original Message: ----------------- From: Jim Noseworthy jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:56:49 -0400 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Skype and an iPhone 4 problem Hi Folks: When I lonch Skype on my iPhone, it accesses the 3G network rather than my router. How can i rectify this problem? 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From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 18:28:56 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:28:56 +0000 Subject: iDevice; App Switcher and closing apps Message-ID: Hello everybody Using a full sized Bluetooth keyboard such as the Apple keyboard, I have discovered that with VoiceOver enabled, by holding down the VoiceOver keys, and then pressing the letters J and H simultaneously, I can bring up the app switcher. But how do I actually close an app using the Bluetooth keyboard? Thank you. Lynne From billd at insightbb.com Mon Jan 3 18:40:45 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:40:45 -0500 Subject: using voice over and Skype In-Reply-To: <74BE2E52-12BE-4F24-AB5B-CCAD8E76F97A@googlemail.com> References: <321D3C6A-5330-4030-BA27-10D90079F1EF@insightbb.com> <74BE2E52-12BE-4F24-AB5B-CCAD8E76F97A@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi Lewis, Thank you for the information. Bill Deatherage On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Lewis Crack wrote: > HI Bill. > > to get to your contacts on Skype, press VO and Right Arrow and keep doing this until you hear it say, Table. No Selection. > As to answering calls, a window should appear saying that someone is calling, press VO and right Arrow until you hit the Answer Button. > Press VO and Space to activate the button and you will be in the call! > > The same thing will happen when you receive a request from someone who is adding you. > If you know the person is from the Mac List etc or you want to accept them, just press VO and Right Arrow until you hear, OK Button. > You can also set Skype up so that VoiceOver tells you wen people are Online, Offline, Calling, sending a chat, etc. You do this by going to the preferences and going to Notifications. Once there, you will see a drop down menu with the different options, for each option, make sure that play sound and speak text is checked. > Hope this helps answer your question and a little more! > Lewis. > PS, if you want to add me to Skype for more help, my Skype name is: lewiscrack. Simply go to contacts menu, add a contact, type the Skype name in the search field and press search and the results will appear in a table. Scroll to Add Contact button when you have the right person and then scroll to OK again. VoiceOver will say that the contact has been added. > On 3 Jan 2011, at 04:44, William Deatherage wrote: > >> Hello, >> I was wondering how to get to Contacts in skipe and how to answer calls in skype? >> Thanks for the information in advance. >> Bill Deatherage >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From w9fyi at me.com Mon Jan 3 18:38:46 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:38:46 -0700 Subject: braille display with an IOs device? Message-ID: <83521067-4EE6-41D6-AF2B-188A95E57657@me.com> Hi all, Has anybody used the bc640 with an iPhone? Does it require to have the feature pack? Can you successfuly use it with iBooks? Thanks From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 18:45:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:45:32 +0000 Subject: Slingbox Player Mobile [iPad & iPhone] Message-ID: <152E3073-7DBA-47E0-A2A2-66AEF384A6C8@mac-access.net> hello everybody For those who might just be interested, as you may know Gordon and I now own a couple of these devices, Slingboxes I mean. We have a Slingbox Pro-HD and a Slingbox Pro. But my point is that I recently bought us a copy of SlingPlayer Mobile for iPad and iPhone. I just got around to trying this out as Gordon finally was able to bring himself to concentrate enough to set up the network requirements and get the Slingboxes working using the new browser-based plugins. POut of interest, I turned off wifi and ran Slingbox Player using our mobile Internet. To my utter astonishment, I got a streaming video signal. it wasn't fantastic quality; but you'd expect that using a low bandwidth mobile connection. So, I decided to try again using our Wireless-N wifi connection. Gordon and I have 2 distinctly separate networks; one for serverside stuff and one for client. The Slingboxes are currently both sitting on the server network. So I logged on to the Internet using the other network and then brought up the software and logged into our Slingbox to stream video. I had the Slingbox source set to our satellite receiver which, in turn, was tuned to an HD movie channel. The Slingbox Pro-HD's advantage over the Slingbox Pro is that it can stream to your network in HD. To my utter astonishment, when I logged into our signal using the iPad, I was presented with a full screen HD signal, and on a portable device, I have to tell you I have never seen anything that even comes close to the quality I was watching a few minutes ago. The colour contrast and depth had to be seen to be believed, and I've seen much inferior picture quality from much larger standard definition hardware than I just got using our iPad; it was truly amazing. Anyway, my point is that if anybody on list is thinking of getting one of thee boxes, it's definitely worth while as long as you have the network capacity to support the streaming. Unfortunately, the Slingbox Pro-HD is only available in the United Kingdom, Finland, Denmark and Sweden. It is not available in the United States of America, which I found astonishing; but there it is. But the Slingbox Pro is available worldwide and if you're looking for something to stream your audio and video in hardware, consider this excellent range of devices. You even get a dual head remote control with it so that you can control your DVD, cable or satellite box and also your TV. If anybody wants more of a description of this thing, please feel free to contact me. Gordon is also going to produce a podcast on the setup and installation of the Slingbox when he is able. Lynne From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Mon Jan 3 18:51:58 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:51:58 -0400 Subject: iPhone, Skype and headset issues. Message-ID: <7CD5664CAA6C451FA67103C223CBE6EC@CNIBnotebook> Hi Folks: One of the problems that I am having with Skype is that if one is using a headset, one cannot hear the skype call when it comes in. Unlike Skype for computer, I don't think that one can choose where to send calling notification: to headset or speaker. Anyone have a solution to this problem? Thanks all over the place gang. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 18:57:19 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:57:19 +0100 Subject: braille display with an IOs device? In-Reply-To: <83521067-4EE6-41D6-AF2B-188A95E57657@me.com> References: <83521067-4EE6-41D6-AF2B-188A95E57657@me.com> Message-ID: <41EF84CF-97DF-4A7B-A434-1A36597C637A@gmail.com> Hello Justin, I actually just tried the Alva BC640 at my girlfriend's house, and it works quite well. Simply go to General>Accessibiility>VoiceOver. It has extremely good navigation. Also, Apple has the following article regarding using the Alva BC640. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4368 It is of course worth noting that, when using the display, you will get exactly what you need to know. Of course texting cannot be done without the feature pack, but that is about it. It seems to have quite good support, even when I was using it in Safari though some things can be quite different. However, that is only because of some bugs VoiceOver still has regarding the braille and not device specific issues. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 3 19:09:41 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:09:41 +0000 Subject: braille display with an IOs device? In-Reply-To: <41EF84CF-97DF-4A7B-A434-1A36597C637A@gmail.com> References: <83521067-4EE6-41D6-AF2B-188A95E57657@me.com> <41EF84CF-97DF-4A7B-A434-1A36597C637A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Gordon uses a Connect 40 from Humanware and it works incredibly well. Lyne On 3 Jan 2011, at 18:57, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Justin, > > I actually just tried the Alva BC640 at my girlfriend's house, and it works quite well. Simply go to General>Accessibiility>VoiceOver. It has extremely good navigation. Also, Apple has the following article regarding using the Alva BC640. > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4368 > > It is of course worth noting that, when using the display, you will get exactly what you need to know. Of course texting cannot be done without the feature pack, but that is about it. It seems to have quite good support, even when I was using it in Safari though some things can be quite different. However, that is only because of some bugs VoiceOver still has regarding the braille and not device specific issues. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Mon Jan 3 19:52:28 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:52:28 +0000 Subject: using voice over and Skype In-Reply-To: References: <321D3C6A-5330-4030-BA27-10D90079F1EF@insightbb.com> <74BE2E52-12BE-4F24-AB5B-CCAD8E76F97A@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi Bill! Something else you might want to do is, if your lay out is the same as mine! You should have your online status menu then your name account balance then a unlabelled button! That button is your history button [you can label it by vo+slash ] just in case before labelling it check it is still history by vo+shift+h! I say that because it can also become mist events button! If it is missed events label it as so! Now to use it! If on history vo+space then vo right to the first table then interact then you can see your history [funny enough ] when your done just stop interacting and go back to the button and vo+space again! After that when you go to that table it should now say empty table! So if you have the history button labelled and when you go into Skype again and that button is unlabelled again just check it has not changed to missed events and not just become unlabelled! If missed events then label it! :] From then on which ever that button is will tell you! And of course if missed events use it the same way as if it was history! :] Anyway I hope this is of some help! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 3 Jan 2011, at 18:40, William Deatherage wrote: > Hi Lewis, > Thank you for the information. > Bill Deatherage > On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> HI Bill. >> >> to get to your contacts on Skype, press VO and Right Arrow and keep doing this until you hear it say, Table. No Selection. >> As to answering calls, a window should appear saying that someone is calling, press VO and right Arrow until you hit the Answer Button. >> Press VO and Space to activate the button and you will be in the call! >> >> The same thing will happen when you receive a request from someone who is adding you. >> If you know the person is from the Mac List etc or you want to accept them, just press VO and Right Arrow until you hear, OK Button. >> You can also set Skype up so that VoiceOver tells you wen people are Online, Offline, Calling, sending a chat, etc. You do this by going to the preferences and going to Notifications. Once there, you will see a drop down menu with the different options, for each option, make sure that play sound and speak text is checked. >> Hope this helps answer your question and a little more! >> Lewis. >> PS, if you want to add me to Skype for more help, my Skype name is: lewiscrack. Simply go to contacts menu, add a contact, type the Skype name in the search field and press search and the results will appear in a table. Scroll to Add Contact button when you have the right person and then scroll to OK again. VoiceOver will say that the contact has been added. >> On 3 Jan 2011, at 04:44, William Deatherage wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I was wondering how to get to Contacts in skipe and how to answer calls in skype? >>> Thanks for the information in advance. >>> Bill Deatherage >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Mon Jan 3 21:39:57 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:39:57 -0400 Subject: Skype on the iPhone. Message-ID: Hi Folks: How does one close down skype without rebooting one's iPhone? Thanks all over the place gang. From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 22:09:33 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:09:33 -0500 Subject: iPhone, Skype and headset issues. In-Reply-To: <7CD5664CAA6C451FA67103C223CBE6EC@CNIBnotebook> References: <7CD5664CAA6C451FA67103C223CBE6EC@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: I just received a Skype call on my iPhone. I had my headset on and the call ring came through loud and clear. On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > One of the problems that I am having with Skype is that if one is using a headset, one cannot hear the skype call when it comes in. Unlike Skype for computer, I don't think that one can choose where to send calling notification: to headset or speaker. > > Anyone have a solution to this problem? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 22:15:00 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:15:00 -0500 Subject: Skype on the iPhone. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79AE011D-C027-4FDB-A9EF-F2A011BC971C@gmail.com> Take Skype out of the app switcher and it will be completely closed down. On Jan 3, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > How does one close down skype without rebooting one's iPhone? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Mon Jan 3 22:25:24 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:25:24 +0000 Subject: Skype on the iPhone. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2CC044BB-08FE-4E50-8444-5517533AF3B0@googlemail.com> HI Jim. I normally go to the My Info Button, then scroll round until I hear Sign Out Button. Once done, I press the home button to go back to the home screen. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 3 Jan 2011, at 21:39, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > How does one close down skype without rebooting one's iPhone? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Mon Jan 3 23:06:16 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:06:16 +0000 Subject: Input mic problem In-Reply-To: <6922EB7E-0C5E-4DDC-A985-4B6300DCF923@mac-access.net> References: <622EACDB-A7E4-4968-9C3D-1B35EC8D6873@gmail.com> <4A935A30-EC1E-4130-92EF-C1AE51604329@gmail.com> <7B146A2E-0671-4C9C-A8D2-80F15260CE0C@gmail.com> <6922EB7E-0C5E-4DDC-A985-4B6300DCF923@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne not Sarah :] And Sarah! Ok it looks like my headphones mic is broke! I've now got the sound through headphones and I'm using the Imacs built in mic! So the bad news is the world has to hear me! Thanks for your help! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 3 Jan 2011, at 15:12, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Colin > > I am not Sarah; but in system preferences > Sound, make sure your active input device is set to Microphone. If not, it won't work. > > Lynne > > On 3 Jan 2011, at 12:41, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi Sarah! >> Ok my fault again! >> I should also have said that I have not added or changed any software or had any updates either! >> The mic worked fine before newyear's day and now it does not! >> I do not have sound flower or hijack or any others on my Mac! >> The levels are at the same as when the mic worked! >> Thanks Colin >> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 23:21:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:21:29 -0800 Subject: Input mic problem In-Reply-To: References: <622EACDB-A7E4-4968-9C3D-1B35EC8D6873@gmail.com> <4A935A30-EC1E-4130-92EF-C1AE51604329@gmail.com> <7B146A2E-0671-4C9C-A8D2-80F15260CE0C@gmail.com> <6922EB7E-0C5E-4DDC-A985-4B6300DCF923@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3E302FF9-8F95-40AC-8D49-ECD74A6FDCA8@gmail.com> the imac has a built in mic? Sorry I've never seen one. I've seen a mini or the older ones anyway and was a bit confused there. Oops? Well glad you got your problem fixed. S On Jan 3, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Lynne not Sarah :] > And Sarah! > Ok it looks like my headphones mic is broke! > I've now got the sound through headphones and I'm using the Imacs built in mic! > So the bad news is the world has to hear me! > Thanks for your help! > Colin > I'm far too bad for Heaven! > The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! > > On 3 Jan 2011, at 15:12, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Colin >> >> I am not Sarah; but in system preferences > Sound, make sure your active input device is set to Microphone. If not, it won't work. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 3 Jan 2011, at 12:41, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah! >>> Ok my fault again! >>> I should also have said that I have not added or changed any software or had any updates either! >>> The mic worked fine before newyear's day and now it does not! >>> I do not have sound flower or hijack or any others on my Mac! >>> The levels are at the same as when the mic worked! >>> Thanks Colin >>> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >>> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jan 4 00:09:18 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:09:18 -0400 Subject: iPhone, Skype and headset issues. In-Reply-To: References: <7CD5664CAA6C451FA67103C223CBE6EC@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: Hello: Thanks for your post. My point was that, when not waring the headset, one cannot hear the call. On 2011-01-03, at 6:09 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > I just received a Skype call on my iPhone. I had my headset on and the call ring came through loud and clear. > > On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> One of the problems that I am having with Skype is that if one is using a headset, one cannot hear the skype call when it comes in. Unlike Skype for computer, I don't think that one can choose where to send calling notification: to headset or speaker. >> >> Anyone have a solution to this problem? >> >> Thanks all over the place gang. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jan 4 00:13:46 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:13:46 -0400 Subject: An iTunes problem on my MacBook. Message-ID: <9F661AA3-6C95-45F8-998A-46734398A7E0@compuconference.com> Hi Folks: Every time I try and open iTunes from the doc or from an alias, I am asked to choose a library. If, however, I open iTunes from the applications list, it opens properly. Does anyone know how I canrectify this problem? Thanks all over the place gang. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 00:26:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:26:53 -0800 Subject: An iTunes problem on my MacBook. In-Reply-To: <9F661AA3-6C95-45F8-998A-46734398A7E0@compuconference.com> References: <9F661AA3-6C95-45F8-998A-46734398A7E0@compuconference.com> Message-ID: <20D2AF6D-63F7-4AB6-816C-A2CB9CB61AA4@gmail.com> Hello. Try not to hold down the option key or when you open it from the doc just hit enter and do not touch the option key. This is what's causing the message. Take care. S On Jan 3, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Every time I try and open iTunes from the doc or from an alias, I am asked to choose a library. If, however, I open iTunes from the applications list, it opens properly. > > Does anyone know how I canrectify this problem? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 00:27:34 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:27:34 -0800 Subject: iPhone, Skype and headset issues. In-Reply-To: References: <7CD5664CAA6C451FA67103C223CBE6EC@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: <7F519A98-4A63-4C39-A7E9-4D0DCA0BC627@gmail.com> Sure you can. it goes in to handset mode. Just raise the volume and find the speaker button or put the phone to yur ear. I've done this both or shall I say all 3 ways and it works. On Jan 3, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hello: > > Thanks for your post. My point was that, when not waring the headset, one cannot hear the call. > > > On 2011-01-03, at 6:09 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > >> I just received a Skype call on my iPhone. I had my headset on and the call ring came through loud and clear. >> >> On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> One of the problems that I am having with Skype is that if one is using a headset, one cannot hear the skype call when it comes in. Unlike Skype for computer, I don't think that one can choose where to send calling notification: to headset or speaker. >>> >>> Anyone have a solution to this problem? >>> >>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 00:59:42 2011 From: mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com (Marcos Rodrigues) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:59:42 -0200 Subject: Accessible chess for the Mac and iPhone? In-Reply-To: References: <000001c19203$f4b5b1f0$de2115d0$@bigpond.net.au>, Message-ID: Hi friends: What is the name of this game? Is there a version for IPhone? Cheers. > Subject: Re: Accessible chess for the Mac and iPhone? > From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com > Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:16:58 +0000 > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > > there is a chess game built in to the o s and if you set up the preforances it does read the moves out and stuff. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jan 4 01:01:43 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:01:43 -0400 Subject: An iTunes problem on my MacBook. In-Reply-To: <20D2AF6D-63F7-4AB6-816C-A2CB9CB61AA4@gmail.com> References: <9F661AA3-6C95-45F8-998A-46734398A7E0@compuconference.com> <20D2AF6D-63F7-4AB6-816C-A2CB9CB61AA4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <952B4F05-584B-4DB1-B873-D86189D984D0@compuconference.com> Hi: Thanks much for your reply. That works. On 2011-01-03, at 8:26 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. Try not to hold down the option key or when you open it from the doc just hit enter and do not touch the option key. This is what's causing the message. > > Take care. > > S > On Jan 3, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> Every time I try and open iTunes from the doc or from an alias, I am asked to choose a library. If, however, I open iTunes from the applications list, it opens properly. >> >> Does anyone know how I canrectify this problem? >> >> Thanks all over the place gang. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jan 4 01:04:40 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:04:40 -0400 Subject: iPhone, Skype and headset issues. In-Reply-To: <7F519A98-4A63-4C39-A7E9-4D0DCA0BC627@gmail.com> References: <7CD5664CAA6C451FA67103C223CBE6EC@CNIBnotebook> <7F519A98-4A63-4C39-A7E9-4D0DCA0BC627@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1C5BF03C-BA7C-43AA-A659-42013EBA44F8@compuconference.com> Ok: Let me try this again: If one has the headset plugged in, the incoming call notification is sent to the headset, not the phone speaker. If you don't happen to have the ear bud in you're ear, you will not hear the incoming call notification. Thanks. On 2011-01-03, at 8:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Sure you can. it goes in to handset mode. Just raise the volume and find the speaker button or put the phone to yur ear. I've done this both or shall I say all 3 ways and it works. > On Jan 3, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> Thanks for your post. My point was that, when not waring the headset, one cannot hear the call. >> >> >> On 2011-01-03, at 6:09 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >> >>> I just received a Skype call on my iPhone. I had my headset on and the call ring came through loud and clear. >>> >>> On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks: >>>> >>>> One of the problems that I am having with Skype is that if one is using a headset, one cannot hear the skype call when it comes in. Unlike Skype for computer, I don't think that one can choose where to send calling notification: to headset or speaker. >>>> >>>> Anyone have a solution to this problem? >>>> >>>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 01:15:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:15:29 -0800 Subject: iPhone, Skype and headset issues. In-Reply-To: <1C5BF03C-BA7C-43AA-A659-42013EBA44F8@compuconference.com> References: <7CD5664CAA6C451FA67103C223CBE6EC@CNIBnotebook> <7F519A98-4A63-4C39-A7E9-4D0DCA0BC627@gmail.com> <1C5BF03C-BA7C-43AA-A659-42013EBA44F8@compuconference.com> Message-ID: <5FC28DC9-27DC-4F6A-BC77-2A4C386F1357@gmail.com> Oops! Yeah that would be a slight problem. Actually I never noticed as I'm always wired. lol! Maybe that would be something to write to the skype devs about. that would be nice to have it come from the headset and the sepakers like with the phone. On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Ok: > > Let me try this again: > > If one has the headset plugged in, the incoming call notification is sent to the headset, not the phone speaker. If you don't happen to have the ear bud in you're ear, you will not hear the incoming call notification. > > Thanks. > > On 2011-01-03, at 8:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Sure you can. it goes in to handset mode. Just raise the volume and find the speaker button or put the phone to yur ear. I've done this both or shall I say all 3 ways and it works. >> On Jan 3, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hello: >>> >>> Thanks for your post. My point was that, when not waring the headset, one cannot hear the call. >>> >>> >>> On 2011-01-03, at 6:09 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >>> >>>> I just received a Skype call on my iPhone. I had my headset on and the call ring came through loud and clear. >>>> >>>> On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Folks: >>>>> >>>>> One of the problems that I am having with Skype is that if one is using a headset, one cannot hear the skype call when it comes in. Unlike Skype for computer, I don't think that one can choose where to send calling notification: to headset or speaker. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone have a solution to this problem? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From billd at insightbb.com Tue Jan 4 02:05:14 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:05:14 -0500 Subject: two more questions Message-ID: <65CBD376-497A-4C4A-887F-729FF5969537@insightbb.com> Hello, to night we decided to test my wife's computer by having me give it a call on my mac. for some reason it didn't work. when it was making contact it read the phone number with the area code twice. we made calls with it last night and didn't have any problems. another issue with it is some how the name got changed in the applications folder. I was going through the directory and didn't see Skype then I saw this program I didn't recognize. I opened it and it went into Skype. I am sure the problem is with me and not with the computer. what I would like to know is how much of a problem will this cause. The second question is if i contact my wife on her computer does skype use the phone number or does it use her skype name. What can i do about the phone number or is that an issue? if so how do I modify the issue. Thank you every one for all your help. Bill Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Tue Jan 4 03:57:03 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:57:03 -0500 Subject: getting there slowly Message-ID: <411DB10E-E002-4949-AB8F-2E2C07A0E382@insightbb.com> Hello, i got the problem with contacting my wife worked out. we gave it a try and every thing worked out fine. so it looks like the name of the program in the applications menu has changed but the program is working allergist. having fun learning Bill Deatherage From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 05:39:09 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:39:09 -0800 Subject: getting there slowly In-Reply-To: <411DB10E-E002-4949-AB8F-2E2C07A0E382@insightbb.com> References: <411DB10E-E002-4949-AB8F-2E2C07A0E382@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Hello. just rename the program to skype and it should look better. What might have happened is you hit enter on the app and renamed it. I've done this several times wiht out knowing it. Take care. S On Jan 3, 2011, at 7:57 PM, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > i got the problem with contacting my wife worked out. we gave it a try and every thing worked out fine. so it looks like the name of the program in the applications menu has changed but the program is working allergist. > having fun learning Bill Deatherage > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From support at mac-access.net Tue Jan 4 10:18:30 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:18:30 +0000 Subject: Dual New Member Welcome Message-ID: <2546D352-C969-45D7-B2EF-564000AECE0F@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. Unfortunately, as well as the good, it seems that we are now attracting the attention of those we would prefer not to have in our group. But we will try to keep a lid on things. Meanwhile life goes on; and it is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Andrea Breier and Douglas, (we have no surname), to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at support at mac-access.net or our very capable assistant list controller Anne Robertson, anne at anarchie.org.uk and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From support at mac-access.net Tue Jan 4 12:30:28 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:30:28 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Adrian Higginbotham to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at support at mac-access.net or our very capable assistant list controller Anne Robertson, anne at anarchie.org.uk and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From gordon at mac-access.net Tue Jan 4 13:11:15 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:11:15 +0000 Subject: An iTunes problem on my MacBook. In-Reply-To: <9F661AA3-6C95-45F8-998A-46734398A7E0@compuconference.com> References: <9F661AA3-6C95-45F8-998A-46734398A7E0@compuconference.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim Instead of using VO+Space to open iTunes, press enter. Gordon On 4 Jan 2011, at 00:13, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Every time I try and open iTunes from the doc or from an alias, I am asked to choose a library. If, however, I open iTunes from the applications list, it opens properly. > > Does anyone know how I canrectify this problem? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From helianthe at mac-access.net Tue Jan 4 13:27:06 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:27:06 +0100 Subject: any accessible news reader for the mac? Message-ID: <4D23202A.5020708@mac-access.net> Hello listers, Well, the question is in the subject line. Are there any accessible news reader for the mac? Thanks a lot, Lyn & Twinny From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 13:29:32 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:29:32 -0500 Subject: iDevice; App Switcher and closing apps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <802F3259-4B3C-4296-B68D-FE0A83DB0EFC@gmail.com> Some apps close when the home button is pressed, or vo-h-h with the blue tooth keyboard. However, The only way to actually close many apps is by removing them from the app switcher, but there is no way to do this with a blue tooth keyboard. On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Using a full sized Bluetooth keyboard such as the Apple keyboard, I have discovered that with VoiceOver enabled, by holding down the VoiceOver keys, and then pressing the letters J and H simultaneously, I can bring up the app switcher. But how do I actually close an app using the Bluetooth keyboard? > > Thank you. > > Lynne > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jan 4 13:32:30 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:32:30 +0000 Subject: ipod touch. Message-ID: Hello all, abit of advice. I just bought an ipod touch esterday and i have sinked some stuff i don't want on it all my eppasoads of prisoner cell block h which i want to delete. is there any quick way of deleeting them from the ipod. Thanks very much. Ian McNamara From gordon at mac-access.net Tue Jan 4 14:09:18 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:09:18 +0000 Subject: iDevice; App Switcher and closing apps In-Reply-To: <802F3259-4B3C-4296-B68D-FE0A83DB0EFC@gmail.com> References: <802F3259-4B3C-4296-B68D-FE0A83DB0EFC@gmail.com> Message-ID: My god, what an oversight! Thanks. On 4 Jan 2011, at 13:29, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > However, The only way to actually close many apps is by removing them from the app switcher, but there is no way to do this with a blue tooth keyboard. From gordon at mac-access.net Tue Jan 4 14:10:26 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:10:26 +0000 Subject: ipod touch. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ian. Could you contact me privately? I have some info you . Gordon On 4 Jan 2011, at 13:32, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hello all, abit of advice. I just bought an ipod touch esterday and i have sinked some stuff i don't want on it all my eppasoads of prisoner cell block h which i want to delete. is there any quick way of deleeting them from the ipod. > > Thanks very much. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Tue Jan 4 16:41:29 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:41:29 +0000 Subject: two more questions In-Reply-To: <65CBD376-497A-4C4A-887F-729FF5969537@insightbb.com> References: <65CBD376-497A-4C4A-887F-729FF5969537@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <8CEBDB39-B1AA-4427-807F-04BFB4E546C6@googlemail.com> Hi Bill. To rename the program you didn't recognise which opens up Skype, go to the applications folder where you found it and press enter on the @unknown program at . This will take you into a rename field where you can change the name of the program. Type Skype (S, k, y, p, e) into the box and press enter. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 4 Jan 2011, at 02:05, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > to night we decided to test my wife's computer by having me give it a call on my mac. > for some reason it didn't work. when it was making contact it read the phone number with the area code twice. we made calls with it last night and didn't have any problems. another issue with it is some how the name got changed in the applications folder. I was going through the directory and didn't see Skype then I saw this program I didn't recognize. I opened it and it went into Skype. > I am sure the problem is with me and not with the computer. what I would like to know is how much of a problem will this cause. > The second question is if i contact my wife on her computer does skype use the phone number or does it use her skype name. What can i do about the phone number or is that an issue? if so how do I modify the issue. > Thank you every one for all your help. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au Tue Jan 4 16:51:13 2011 From: vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au (Vaughn Bennison) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 02:51:13 +1000 Subject: Networking issues In-Reply-To: <65CBD376-497A-4C4A-887F-729FF5969537@insightbb.com> References: <65CBD376-497A-4C4A-887F-729FF5969537@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <32117FAC-E42B-4165-846C-5D39001971D2@netspace.net.au> Hi everyone, I have an interesting issue relating to networking. On my Macbook Pro, when I boot up, and go into network under finder, I can see al of the other machines on my network, and open my file-server with no problems. When I do the same thing on my Mac Mini, (Which I re-installed OSX on yesterday), I can't! Also, despite having set everything up in the wins configuration etc, and done everything I can think of in network configuration in general, I cannot seem to make this machine visible to everyone else on the network! Any ideas? Thanks. Vaughn. From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Tue Jan 4 19:28:49 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:28:49 +0000 Subject: |Reading .xlsx files on the Mac Message-ID: <2AAFBAD1-9E7E-4DC5-9D2A-39CCFB7E978D@thejazzden.org.uk> Hello I and my work colleagues usually store our Excel workbooks in .xlsx format - using the latest version of Office (in another operating system). Can these files be read on the Mac -- I presume they will by Microsoft Office but not sure how accessible that software is and I would like to not have to spend more on software. :) I realise I can save in another format from Excel and if so which is the best to use for reading through Tables on the Mac, or is there an alternative to save me having to export all our worksheets? Any help welcomed. From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Tue Jan 4 19:36:35 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:36:35 +0000 Subject: Slingbox Player Mobile [iPad & iPhone] In-Reply-To: <152E3073-7DBA-47E0-A2A2-66AEF384A6C8@mac-access.net> References: <152E3073-7DBA-47E0-A2A2-66AEF384A6C8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7C85204D-6686-489A-969B-85748A4B2C43@thejazzden.org.uk> Hello Lynne I tried replying from my IPhone last night but for some reason the message didn't get through. Does the SlingBox stream the audio description signal (if enabled from your satellite TV)? If so can the controls remotely switch off settings like audio description, subtitles etc, or does this have to be set up before streaming the content from the main tV? If it doesn't include audio description, etc, what's the advantage of using a SlingBox as opposed to a Mac TV setup? Apologies if I'm missing something here. On 3 Jan 2011, at 18:45, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > hello everybody > > For those who might just be interested, as you may know Gordon and I now own a couple of these devices, Slingboxes I mean. We have a Slingbox Pro-HD and a Slingbox Pro. But my point is that I recently bought us a copy of SlingPlayer Mobile for iPad and iPhone. > > I just got around to trying this out as Gordon finally was able to bring himself to concentrate enough to set up the network requirements and get the Slingboxes working using the new browser-based plugins. POut of interest, I turned off wifi and ran Slingbox Player using our mobile Internet. To my utter astonishment, I got a streaming video signal. it wasn't fantastic quality; but you'd expect that using a low bandwidth mobile connection. > > > So, I decided to try again using our Wireless-N wifi connection. Gordon and I have 2 distinctly separate networks; one for serverside stuff and one for client. The Slingboxes are currently both sitting on the server network. So I logged on to the Internet using the other network and then brought up the software and logged into our Slingbox to stream video. > > I had the Slingbox source set to our satellite receiver which, in turn, was tuned to an HD movie channel. The Slingbox Pro-HD's advantage over the Slingbox Pro is that it can stream to your network in HD. To my utter astonishment, when I logged into our signal using the iPad, I was presented with a full screen HD signal, and on a portable device, I have to tell you I have never seen anything that even comes close to the quality I was watching a few minutes ago. > > The colour contrast and depth had to be seen to be believed, and I've seen much inferior picture quality from much larger standard definition hardware than I just got using our iPad; it was truly amazing. > > Anyway, my point is that if anybody on list is thinking of getting one of thee boxes, it's definitely worth while as long as you have the network capacity to support the streaming. Unfortunately, the Slingbox Pro-HD is only available in the United Kingdom, Finland, Denmark and Sweden. It is not available in the United States of America, which I found astonishing; but there it is. But the Slingbox Pro is available worldwide and if you're looking for something to stream your audio and video in hardware, consider this excellent range of devices. > > You even get a dual head remote control with it so that you can control your DVD, cable or satellite box and also your TV. If anybody wants more of a description of this thing, please feel free to contact me. Gordon is also going to produce a podcast on the setup and installation of the Slingbox when he is able. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Tue Jan 4 19:58:28 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:58:28 +0000 Subject: Magic track pad with VO off Message-ID: <8931E16D-B5BD-45DB-89C8-5A9185000936@hopewell.org.uk> Hello All, I have recently acquired an Apple magic track pad to use with my iMac. It is working well with gestures and VoiceOver. Other (sighted) people occasionally use my computer and I am wondering what the magic track pad will do for them when VoiceOver is turned off. Can they use it like a normal mouse, i.e. move their finger around on the track pad to drives a mouse pointer on the screen and then press the appropriate edge of the track pad to do a left mouse click or a right mouse click? If so I can then disconnect my mouse! Does the track pad do anything else for none VoiceOver users? Also do you know if it works like a mouse when running that other OS under VMWare fusion? Finally do you know of any accessible documentation on how the track pad works when VoiceOver is off? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From adrian at dogfish.plus.com Tue Jan 4 21:06:03 2011 From: adrian at dogfish.plus.com (Adrian Higginbotham) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:06:03 -0000 Subject: new member intro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000c01cbac53$33141bd0$993c5370$@plus.com> Hi all: Just introducing myself as I've joined the list today. I've been using an ipod touch 4th gen for a couple of months and having finally made the leap to voiceover am in the process of getting an apple main machine too. I think I've settled on a 13 inch macbook pro. I'm a total so don't need the screensize but want plenty of power to be able to do both education and work tasks. I'll be mostly lirking for a little while picking up tips on use of iworks, vo on a latpot and using safari for newsfeeds, podcasts, and all the usual stuff. I'm also wondering about the best ways access pfds and other non html or .doc formats but I'll save questions until I have my machine to try out suggestions on. Best wishes Adrian Higginbotham E: Adrian at dogfish.plus.com Twitter: @AHiggi -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon & Lynne Smith Sent: 04 January 2011 12:30 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: New Member Welcome Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Adrian Higginbotham to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at support at mac-access.net or our very capable assistant list controller Anne Robertson, anne at anarchie.org.uk and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From opensesame at me.com Tue Jan 4 21:17:30 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:17:30 -0500 Subject: Magic track pad with VO off In-Reply-To: <8931E16D-B5BD-45DB-89C8-5A9185000936@hopewell.org.uk> References: <8931E16D-B5BD-45DB-89C8-5A9185000936@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <809A760A-80C2-4CF7-A587-9AEBD5E152C1@me.com> Hi Paul, I can address a few of your Mac-specific questions but not the VMWare/Windows question. The Magic Trackpad works well for sighted Users and can replace a mouse. If you turn off VO and disable the Trackpad commander before the sighted person begins using it, they will be able to move the mouse pointer around the screen by simply moving their finger around the surface of the trackpad. In this mode a "left-click" can be achieved by pressing the trackpad button with a single finger, and a "right-click" can be achieved by pressing the trackpad button while having two fingers on the trackpad. Additionally, there are many configuration options in the Trackpad section of System Preferences. You can configure the trackpad to perform certain behaviors using one, two, three and four finger taps, clicks and gestures. Here's a link to the US English version of the Magic Trackpad User Manual in PDF format. http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Magic_Trackpad_UG.pdf HTH, Bryan On Jan 4, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello All, > I have recently acquired an Apple magic track pad to use with my iMac. It is working well with gestures and VoiceOver. > > Other (sighted) people occasionally use my computer and I am wondering what the magic track pad will do for them when VoiceOver is turned off. Can they use it like a normal mouse, i.e. move their finger around on the track pad to drives a mouse pointer on the screen and then press the appropriate edge of the track pad to do a left mouse click or a right mouse click? If so I can then disconnect my mouse! Does the track pad do anything else for none VoiceOver users? Also do you know if it works like a mouse when running that other OS under VMWare fusion? > Finally do you know of any accessible documentation on how the track pad works when VoiceOver is off? From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 4 21:21:00 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:21:00 +0000 Subject: Slingbox Player Mobile [iPad & iPhone] In-Reply-To: <7C85204D-6686-489A-969B-85748A4B2C43@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <152E3073-7DBA-47E0-A2A2-66AEF384A6C8@mac-access.net> <7C85204D-6686-489A-969B-85748A4B2C43@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <9F715F3B-5362-4709-A000-E0D1A9A0C37B@mac-access.net> Hello Dennis On 4 Jan 2011, at 19:36, Dennis Freedman wrote: > ? I tried replying from my IPhone last night but for some reason the message didn't get through. > Does the SlingBox stream the audio description signal (if enabled from your satellite TV)? If so can the controls remotely switch off settings like audio description, subtitles etc, or does this have to be set up before streaming the content from the main tV? > If it doesn't include audio description, etc, what's the advantage of using a SlingBox as opposed to a Mac TV setup? Apologies if I'm missing something here. The Slingbox is a streaming solution Dennis, and it doesn't support audio descriptions on its internal tuner. Be mindful that the Slingbox is not specifically designed for the UK market. The advantage of the Slingbox is its ability to stream extyernal sources, such as your satellite box, cable TV box or DVD player. The inbuilt tuner is just an added bonus. I am not aware of a Mac TV system which is accessible; unless you know different? Lynne From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Tue Jan 4 21:29:39 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:29:39 +0000 Subject: new member intro In-Reply-To: <000c01cbac53$33141bd0$993c5370$@plus.com> References: <000c01cbac53$33141bd0$993c5370$@plus.com> Message-ID: <1F58B9DC-28CB-4FDC-AF4E-76415A4813C9@googlemail.com> Hi Glad you made it eventually. Plenty of switchers here now so don't feel shy to ask, there are some great people on this list - sadly I'm not one but I keep trying. Cheers G From glorious Devon, England. On 4 Jan 2011, at 21:06, Adrian Higginbotham wrote: > Hi all: > Just introducing myself as I've joined the list today. > I've been using an ipod touch 4th gen for a couple of months and having > finally made the leap to voiceover am in the process of getting an apple > main machine too. I think I've settled on a 13 inch macbook pro. I'm a total > so don't need the screensize but want plenty of power to be able to do both > education and work tasks. > I'll be mostly lirking for a little while picking up tips on use of iworks, > vo on a latpot and using safari for newsfeeds, podcasts, and all the usual > stuff. I'm also wondering about the best ways access pfds and other non > html or .doc formats but I'll save questions until I have my machine to try > out suggestions on. > > Best wishes > > > Adrian Higginbotham > E: Adrian at dogfish.plus.com > Twitter: @AHiggi > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon & Lynne Smith > Sent: 04 January 2011 12:30 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: New Member Welcome > > Hello everybody > > Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct > relevance to their Mac use or interest. > > It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum > that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping > with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Adrian Higginbotham to our > number. > > We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly > and worthwhile place to be. > > In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of > skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers > with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have > a keen interest. > > We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, > whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the > ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind > of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. > > Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of > virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the > configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the > virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any > other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The > exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the > virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this > clarifies the position. > > If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact > either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at support at mac-access.net or > our very capable assistant list controller Anne Robertson, > anne at anarchie.org.uk and we will be happy to help you. > > Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your > membership an enjoyable experience. > > Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. > members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac > publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. > > If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a > listing of the books available please visit: > http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the > Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Jan 4 21:42:28 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:42:28 +0000 Subject: Is anyone going to the Apple taster day at RNIB on Thursday? Message-ID: <2FC9382B-A51F-49E7-9709-8FC5BEE55FF1@mac-access.net> Hello everyone, I'm just wondering, as i would be interested to know how the presenters represent Mac and IOS. Unfortunately, the day is full now, but still, I am curious. Thanks Take care James From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 4 21:57:11 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:57:11 +0000 Subject: Is anyone going to the Apple taster day at RNIB on Thursday? In-Reply-To: <2FC9382B-A51F-49E7-9709-8FC5BEE55FF1@mac-access.net> References: <2FC9382B-A51F-49E7-9709-8FC5BEE55FF1@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello James, Mike and any other interested third parties. On 4 Jan 2011, at 21:42, James AUSTIN wrote: > ? I'm just wondering, as i would be interested to know how the presenters represent Mac and IOS. Unfortunately, the day is full now, but still, I am curious. > We too would be interested; and we would also be willing, if appropriate, to host a recorded podcast of the event on behalf of BCAB. Lynne From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 21:58:07 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 15:58:07 -0600 Subject: offlist only! Message-ID: hey guys i have an offlist question involving windows iin a vurtual machine off of the mac, please email me directly at doug.cam3 at gmail.com thank you From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Tue Jan 4 22:12:50 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:12:50 +0000 Subject: Magic track pad with VO off In-Reply-To: <809A760A-80C2-4CF7-A587-9AEBD5E152C1@me.com> References: <8931E16D-B5BD-45DB-89C8-5A9185000936@hopewell.org.uk> <809A760A-80C2-4CF7-A587-9AEBD5E152C1@me.com> Message-ID: <5BBE0158-F246-4D6F-AF9B-763B19CE3283@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Brian, Many thanks for the info and the link to the track pad getting started manual. I should know better but I never thought of looking for a track pad section in system preferences. I did a quick try with the track pad and Windows on VMWare fusion and it seemed to work like a normal mouse. Best wishes.... Paul Hopewell On 4 Jan 2011, at 21:17, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I can address a few of your Mac-specific questions but not the VMWare/Windows question. > > The Magic Trackpad works well for sighted Users and can replace a mouse. If you turn off VO and disable the Trackpad commander before the sighted person begins using it, they will be able to move the mouse pointer around the screen by simply moving their finger around the surface of the trackpad. In this mode a "left-click" can be achieved by pressing the trackpad button with a single finger, and a "right-click" can be achieved by pressing the trackpad button while having two fingers on the trackpad. > > Additionally, there are many configuration options in the Trackpad section of System Preferences. You can configure the trackpad to perform certain behaviors using one, two, three and four finger taps, clicks and gestures. > > Here's a link to the US English version of the Magic Trackpad User Manual in PDF format. > http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Magic_Trackpad_UG.pdf > > HTH, > Bryan > > On Jan 4, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> Hello All, >> I have recently acquired an Apple magic track pad to use with my iMac. It is working well with gestures and VoiceOver. >> >> Other (sighted) people occasionally use my computer and I am wondering what the magic track pad will do for them when VoiceOver is turned off. Can they use it like a normal mouse, i.e. move their finger around on the track pad to drives a mouse pointer on the screen and then press the appropriate edge of the track pad to do a left mouse click or a right mouse click? If so I can then disconnect my mouse! Does the track pad do anything else for none VoiceOver users? Also do you know if it works like a mouse when running that other OS under VMWare fusion? >> Finally do you know of any accessible documentation on how the track pad works when VoiceOver is off? > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > From rawoolgrove at btinternet.com Tue Jan 4 22:54:24 2011 From: rawoolgrove at btinternet.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:54:24 -0000 Subject: |Reading .xlsx files on the Mac References: <2AAFBAD1-9E7E-4DC5-9D2A-39CCFB7E978D@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <2D939A0D8EE842328502190C686511C3@SamsungNC10> Dennis, I works available from Apple can open and read excel docs. I was formerly running MS Office 2003 and all my xls have gone over okay. The MS Office for Mac I understand is not workable with Voice Over. As with any major change, I works takes a bit of getting used to but once you have the know how, it becomes second nature. I believe that this month some time, Apple will be selling the programs from I works individually so you won't need to buy the whole suite if you want to save money and don't use the lot. As a brief guide, you get pages which is a word processor, numbers which is a spreadsheet and can't remember the other but it is basically power point. HTH Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Freedman" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:28 PM Subject: |Reading .xlsx files on the Mac > Hello > I and my work colleagues usually store our Excel workbooks in .xlsx > format - using the latest version of Office (in another operating system). > Can these files be read on the Mac -- I presume they will by Microsoft > Office but not sure how accessible that software is and I would like to > not have to spend more on software. :) > I realise I can save in another format from Excel and if so which is the > best to use for reading through Tables on the Mac, or is there an > alternative to save me having to export all our worksheets? > Any help welcomed. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the > Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Wed Jan 5 07:21:07 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:21:07 +0000 Subject: Is anyone going to the Apple taster day at RNIB on Thursday? In-Reply-To: <2FC9382B-A51F-49E7-9709-8FC5BEE55FF1@mac-access.net> References: <2FC9382B-A51F-49E7-9709-8FC5BEE55FF1@mac-access.net> Message-ID: hi should be interesting, it would interest me to ho by the way loving my ipod touch been playing aurifi popasangray and zaney touch the games are very adicktive but i like skype and some other apps i have on there to. Ian McNamara From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Wed Jan 5 07:29:33 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:29:33 +0000 Subject: new member intro In-Reply-To: <000c01cbac53$33141bd0$993c5370$@plus.com> References: <000c01cbac53$33141bd0$993c5370$@plus.com> Message-ID: <21ABC1CF-80FB-4217-8A09-5B72010D6D58@googlemail.com> Hi mate welcome i have had a mac now for four months i love it to bits would never go back to windows now apart from a certain charitie i voice chat on where i need windows but other than that one thing i bearly use windows at all now. And i am on my second ful day of owning an ipod touch i can't believe how quick i am learning the touch screen on it and i am also not a bad typist on it conciddering i have only had it for a day. Ian McNamara From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 07:30:35 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 02:30:35 -0500 Subject: Twitter In-Reply-To: <00D7290B-E5F0-43FB-B2EA-8C21C23CE0E1@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <00D7290B-E5F0-43FB-B2EA-8C21C23CE0E1@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <7A08401E-C0FB-4347-8523-8485C8D488CD@gmail.com> What is a good app for use with Twitter on the Mac? thanks. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Wed Jan 5 07:32:58 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:32:58 +0000 Subject: Twitter In-Reply-To: <7A08401E-C0FB-4347-8523-8485C8D488CD@gmail.com> References: <00D7290B-E5F0-43FB-B2EA-8C21C23CE0E1@blueyonder.co.uk> <7A08401E-C0FB-4347-8523-8485C8D488CD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880E43B3-06D4-4EF3-BC00-780CE5D55411@googlemail.com> hi christian i like yaroofiguroo but you will get a few sujjestions from people i am sure. i like yorroo because it updates instantly and alous you to sho people by there names rather than usernames. Ian McNamara From billd at insightbb.com Wed Jan 5 12:30:50 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:30:50 -0500 Subject: two more questions In-Reply-To: <8CEBDB39-B1AA-4427-807F-04BFB4E546C6@googlemail.com> References: <65CBD376-497A-4C4A-887F-729FF5969537@insightbb.com> <8CEBDB39-B1AA-4427-807F-04BFB4E546C6@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <270D71E4-2AC3-498D-8C08-34A60D369E20@insightbb.com> Hi Lewis and thank you for the information. Bill Deatherage On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Bill. > > To rename the program you didn't recognize which opens up Skype, go to the applications folder where you found it and press enter on the @unknown program at . This will take you into a rename field where you can change the name of the program. Type Skype (S, k, y, p, e) into the box and press enter. > Hope this helps. > Lewis. > On 4 Jan 2011, at 02:05, William Deatherage wrote: > >> Hello, >> to night we decided to test my wife's computer by having me give it a call on my mac. >> for some reason it didn't work. when it was making contact it read the phone number with the area code twice. we made calls with it last night and didn't have any problems. another issue with it is some how the name got changed in the applications folder. I was going through the directory and didn't see Skype then I saw this program I didn't recognize. I opened it and it went into Skype. >> I am sure the problem is with me and not with the computer. what I would like to know is how much of a problem will this cause. >> The second question is if i contact my wife on her computer does skype use the phone number or does it use her skype name. What can i do about the phone number or is that an issue? if so how do I modify the issue. >> Thank you every one for all your help. >> Bill Deatherage >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From billd at insightbb.com Wed Jan 5 12:32:58 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:32:58 -0500 Subject: making progress Message-ID: <314BAF1C-333B-4120-96C6-429B388A8ADE@insightbb.com> Hello, yesterday I was on a prayer group using Skype. and I was using my Mac. Thank you to everyone on the list who helped me with my problems. Bill Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Wed Jan 5 16:59:32 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:59:32 -0500 Subject: using an external mike with my mac Message-ID: <4F4E860E-7A5F-4DDD-8AE0-1C41BFBA259C@insightbb.com> I am in the process of getting an external mike for my Mac. I called a place where the sales person asked me what kind of computer I was using. I told him a Mac. He gave me a price for a mike and said it was more because a mike that would work with the Mac was more expensive. I can't understand why any mike should work Is this true or will any Mike work? Thank you in Advance. Bill Deatherage From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Jan 5 17:01:21 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:01:21 +0000 Subject: using an external mike with my mac In-Reply-To: <4F4E860E-7A5F-4DDD-8AE0-1C41BFBA259C@insightbb.com> References: <4F4E860E-7A5F-4DDD-8AE0-1C41BFBA259C@insightbb.com> Message-ID: You've been conned. Any electret or USB mic will work. On 5 Jan 2011, at 16:59, William Deatherage wrote: > I am in the process of getting an external mike for my Mac. > I called a place where the sales person asked me what kind of computer I was using. I told him a Mac. > He gave me a price for a mike and said it was more because a mike that would work with the Mac was more expensive. I can't understand why any mike should work Is this true or will any Mike work? > Thank you in Advance. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jan 5 18:56:19 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:56:19 -0600 Subject: Accessible interactive games for the Mac? In-Reply-To: <98A69F2C-EA02-4045-AABE-A6BAD0EA8CF4@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <98A69F2C-EA02-4045-AABE-A6BAD0EA8CF4@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: You can always visit my mac games page at: http://www.softcon.com/mac Click on games, or just browse all the other things up there to see if there's anything there of use to you. Also, if you're interested, I was (not sure if I'll continue it or not) working on a rpg type game for the mac that you can download from http://www.thesiegelsnest.us/mac/zimlar.zip or you can just visit the main junk ppage where I dump all my works in progress, abandon stuff, or just things that were placed there temporarily for some reason at: http://www.thesiegelsnest.us/mac/ It's all mac related, though it isn't all vo compatible, but you're welcome to take anything away from there you like, and play with it all you like. No promises anything will work for you, but nonetheless, it's there for the curious or adventurous. Hth. From billd at insightbb.com Wed Jan 5 19:14:10 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:14:10 -0500 Subject: using an external mike with my mac In-Reply-To: References: <4F4E860E-7A5F-4DDD-8AE0-1C41BFBA259C@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Thanks That is what I thought. But I thought I better check it out before i bought anything. Bill Deatherage On Jan 5, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > You've been conned. Any electret or USB mic will work. > > > On 5 Jan 2011, at 16:59, William Deatherage wrote: > >> I am in the process of getting an external mike for my Mac. >> I called a place where the sales person asked me what kind of computer I was using. I told him a Mac. >> He gave me a price for a mike and said it was more because a mike that would work with the Mac was more expensive. I can't understand why any mike should work Is this true or will any Mike work? >> Thank you in Advance. >> Bill Deatherage >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/piper mail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listing/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/piper mail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jan 5 19:20:34 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:20:34 -0600 Subject: Using zip or rar on the Comand Line In-Reply-To: <0BA21513-23AC-4F9D-BDA1-11035CFD78F3@mac-access.net> References: <0BA21513-23AC-4F9D-BDA1-11035CFD78F3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8719FF3F-2CA5-4A07-988B-E1B41AAAB0C9@softcon.com> James. http://www.rarlabs.com will contain rar versions for the mac that run from the command-line. Both zip and rar create files that are compatible with any and all unarchivers, whether their are run on mac, windows, linux, dos, or something else. That's kind of the whole point of archive types. Creating zip and rar files on the mac is done just like you would have done it from dos if you were using dos, or linux command-line if you ever went that route. You'll want to read (carefully) the zip man page, or install infozip or something, as the mac zip program that ships by default with osx isn't 100 percent compatible with pkzip command-line usage, but it's close enough for most things. If you want to get fancy though, and do advanced things, you'll find some of the switches have changed. However, archives produced in this manner will work no matter what platform they're uncompressed on, so feel free to use what works for you. From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jan 5 19:56:23 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:56:23 -0600 Subject: any accessible news reader for the mac? In-Reply-To: <4D23202A.5020708@mac-access.net> References: <4D23202A.5020708@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6E807BDF-CEB4-4A1D-97F6-CBBD4BA522F2@softcon.com> The answer is yes, but the specific answer depends on whether you're talking about rss readers (what most folks these days call news reading) or wheher you're talking about usenet groups (what everyone used to call news readers). If you're talking about usenet, chmox is the only one I've found that does the job. It's not 100 percent accessible, but it works well enough to get the job done. You'll unfortunately need to perform a google search, or email me offlist to send you the app file, as I downloaded it several years ago, and have no idea where I got it. On the other hand, if you're talking about rss feeds, then yes, you've got safari (not my choice) mail (better, but still not what I like) several web/standalone options (I've tried several and didn't really like any of them) and then there's the one I use called (you guessed it) Softcon News Reader located at: http://www.softcon.com/mac/ It will read all rss feeds I've tossed at it, including one I maintain for our local school districts gifted program which is generated via php scripts, so it's pretty robust. It keeps your feeds in one table, the articles in each feed in anoher table, and then an html area for the actual article (or at least the summary of such) Only thing is, it won't download files for you (that's not it's job, it's a reader not a file grabber) but if you want to download a file, simple hold down the alt key when pressing enter on a download link, and safari will be launched to download the file for you. Hope this helps. From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jan 5 20:16:54 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:16:54 -0600 Subject: Networking issues In-Reply-To: <32117FAC-E42B-4165-846C-5D39001971D2@netspace.net.au> References: <65CBD376-497A-4C4A-887F-729FF5969537@insightbb.com> <32117FAC-E42B-4165-846C-5D39001971D2@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: If you haven't turned on file sharing in network preferences, then your machine won't be vissible to other machines on the network. Of course, if you enable web or ssh, they can still connect to you via ip or local machine name, but you won't show up in the network listings. I personally don't use the file sharing myself, as when I want to connect to another machine, I simply use command-K from finder, and type in afp://192.168.2.xxx where xxx is the ip address of the machine I wish to connect to, and after I log in, all is just as if file sharing was on, but it's more secure, because I don't have to deal with acl or guest accesses. But, to each their own. From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 20:24:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:24:29 -0800 Subject: phone not staying on speaker mode when not in a call Message-ID: <210D2731-BB19-4B31-8FFB-438BA8D543BE@gmail.com> Hello to all. Last night my phone started going in to handset mode randomly and now I cannot get it out. I'm not in a call and I"m not running apps. It's as if the headphone jack were still in use I think but I don't know what's going on. Last night I was playing papa sangre and this morning my phone even though I'd disconnected the headphones and closed all apps via the app switcher, it still was in handset mode. What did I do and how can I fix this? I don't want to get a new phone. I have apple care but yeah. Take care. S From gunn at tznet.com Wed Jan 5 21:27:59 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (gunn at tznet.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:27:59 -0500 Subject: phone not staying on speaker mode when not in a call Message-ID: <380-22011135212759280@M2W136.mail2web.com> Hi: Hold in the home and sleep/power buttons for 30-40 seconds, wait a minute, power on the phone and hopefully this will work. John Original Message: ----------------- From: Sarah Alawami marrie12 at gmail.com Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:24:29 -0800 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: phone not staying on speaker mode when not in a call Hello to all. Last night my phone started going in to handset mode randomly and now I cannot get it out. I'm not in a call and I"m not running apps. It's as if the headphone jack were still in use I think but I don't know what's going on. Last night I was playing papa sangre and this morning my phone even though I'd disconnected the headphones and closed all apps via the app switcher, it still was in handset mode. What did I do and how can I fix this? I don't want to get a new phone. I have apple care but yeah. Take care. S _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 22:43:24 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:43:24 -0600 Subject: Raising awareness re VO in public, but was it right? In-Reply-To: <6FB962A5E38146F3A9A9407409C2F330@tammyPC> References: <0ABE3D0A85A34014B12C6B053D957C54@ISC.local> <6FB962A5E38146F3A9A9407409C2F330@tammyPC> Message-ID: <8247275A3ECD42EDA7E1A183CC0B7611@DouglasPC> hey, you maynotice the cross post because i would like as much imput as possible. i do not consider the simple fact of turning voice over on vandelism, because you are not cauasing damage... the deffination of vandelism, is not exactly but not wrong from the true deffination, but it is the point of which damage is caused meaningfully, with intent to disrupt the function, abilities, looks, and or stability of a product, property, etc. simpley turning voice over is not any of these, because it is not causing damage.. and what person would say, that this is damaging and the store would refuse the demo models use?... if you are selling apple products you should be able to know how to turn simple functions as voice over off. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul and Tammy To: viphone at googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Raising awareness re VO in public, but was it right? HI, it certainly does seem exactly like doing this, pity someone didn't tie his hands together and throw him in the pool. Did any of you who support this behaviour ever think of the possibility that stores may refuse access to such demonstration models and I mean refuse them to genuine, decent human beings, and I don't put our local gorilla in that category? How about this for a sennario: "excuse me sir/madam, we can't let you try out the device, we used to allow it but we had a blind guy come in here and vandalize our equipment." Think before you act. Cheers! -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ricardo Walker" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:34 PM To: Subject: Re: Raising awareness re VO in public, but was it right? > Lol, > > I was thinking the same thing. I think it would be more productive to show the person at the store how to turn VO on and off. This sounds like something done out of spite or malice, more than helpfulness. Like throwing a kid who can't swim in a pool and call it teaching him how to do the backstroke. :). > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker296 at gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Jan 5, 2011, at 4:02 PM, igor_kaplan wrote: > >> I was always wander, why some people think, that being blind entitles >> them to make problems for other people. It is interesting, how many >> people answered the initial post with such enthusiasm! I wander, how >> many of those people will like their computers at home to be modified >> in some little way, so in order to fix they would need to call tech. >> support or du a restore? >> It reminds me, some time ago I had a friend, who suggested to crack >> glass displays of ETM machines just to show sighted people how it is >> dificult for blind people to get money with out speech. >> >> >> Jody W Ianuzzi wrote: >>> Hello Sandy, >>> >>> I say Way to Go! Turn about is fair play. >>> >>> JODY >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone at googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. > To post to this group, send email to viphone at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To post to this group, send email to viphone at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 22:43:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:43:47 -0800 Subject: phone not staying on speaker mode when not in a call In-Reply-To: <380-22011135212759280@M2W136.mail2web.com> References: <380-22011135212759280@M2W136.mail2web.com> Message-ID: Actually all tht had to happen for now was an incoming call. ti fixed it for now. Take care and hope this does not happen again. Growl! S On Jan 5, 2011, at 1:27 PM, gunn at tznet.com wrote: > Hi: > > Hold in the home and sleep/power buttons for 30-40 seconds, wait a minute, > power on the phone and hopefully this will work. > > John > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Sarah Alawami marrie12 at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:24:29 -0800 > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Subject: phone not staying on speaker mode when not in a call > > > Hello to all. Last night my phone started going in to handset mode randomly > and now I cannot get it out. I'm not in a call and I"m not running apps. > It's as if the headphone jack were still in use I think but I don't know > what's going on. > > Last night I was playing papa sangre and this morning my phone even though > I'd disconnected the headphones and closed all apps via the app switcher, > it still was in handset mode. > > What did I do and how can I fix this? I don't want to get a new phone. I > have apple care but yeah. > > Take care. > > S > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the > Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Jan 5 22:57:22 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:57:22 +0000 Subject: phone not staying on speaker mode when not in a call In-Reply-To: <210D2731-BB19-4B31-8FFB-438BA8D543BE@gmail.com> References: <210D2731-BB19-4B31-8FFB-438BA8D543BE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5FCDAA20-BA3D-4C8A-9252-A3BC7A4ABC60@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah have you tried restoring the phone using iTunes? On 5 Jan 2011, at 20:24, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello to all. Last night my phone started going in to handset mode randomly and now I cannot get it out. I'm not in a call and I"m not running apps. It's as if the headphone jack were still in use I think but I don't know what's going on. > > Last night I was playing papa sangre and this morning my phone even though I'd disconnected the headphones and closed all apps via the app switcher, it still was in handset mode. > > What did I do and how can I fix this? I don't want to get a new phone. I have apple care but yeah. > > Take care. > > S > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 23:03:37 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:03:37 -0800 Subject: Raising awareness re VO in public, but was it right? In-Reply-To: <8247275A3ECD42EDA7E1A183CC0B7611@DouglasPC> References: <0ABE3D0A85A34014B12C6B053D957C54@ISC.local> <6FB962A5E38146F3A9A9407409C2F330@tammyPC> <8247275A3ECD42EDA7E1A183CC0B7611@DouglasPC> Message-ID: I'm not ont ha tlist anymore so thanks for the little ditty. Thank goodness I"mnice when I walk in. I'm still trying to get a job at the nearist apple store so I can educate people but for some reason there online application is terable! S On Jan 5, 2011, at 2:43 PM, douglas wrote: > hey, you maynotice the cross post because i would like as much imput as possible. > i do not consider the simple fact of turning voice over on vandelism, because you are not cauasing damage... the deffination of vandelism, is not exactly but not wrong from the true deffination, but it is the point of which damage is caused meaningfully, with intent to disrupt the function, abilities, looks, and or stability of a product, property, etc. simpley turning voice over is not any of these, because it is not causing damage.. and what person would say, that this is damaging and the store would refuse the demo models use?... if you are selling apple products you should be able to know how to turn simple functions as voice over off. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul and Tammy > To: viphone at googlegroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: Raising awareness re VO in public, but was it right? > > > HI, it certainly does seem exactly like doing this, pity someone didn't tie his hands together and throw him in the pool. > Did any of you who support this behaviour ever think of the possibility that stores may refuse access to such demonstration models and I mean refuse them to genuine, decent human beings, and I don't put our local gorilla in that category? > How about this for a sennario: > "excuse me sir/madam, we can't let you try out the device, we used to allow it but we had a blind guy come in here and vandalize our equipment." > Think before you act. > Cheers! > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Ricardo Walker" > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:34 PM > To: > Subject: Re: Raising awareness re VO in public, but was it right? > >> Lol, >> >> I was thinking the same thing. I think it would be more productive to show the person at the store how to turn VO on and off. This sounds like something done out of spite or malice, more than helpfulness. Like throwing a kid who can't swim in a pool and call it teaching him how to do the backstroke. :). >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker296 at gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Jan 5, 2011, at 4:02 PM, igor_kaplan wrote: >> >>> I was always wander, why some people think, that being blind entitles >>> them to make problems for other people. It is interesting, how many >>> people answered the initial post with such enthusiasm! I wander, how >>> many of those people will like their computers at home to be modified >>> in some little way, so in order to fix they would need to call tech. >>> support or du a restore? >>> It reminds me, some time ago I had a friend, who suggested to crack >>> glass displays of ETM machines just to show sighted people how it is >>> dificult for blind people to get money with out speech. >>> >>> >>> Jody W Ianuzzi wrote: >>>> Hello Sandy, >>>> >>>> I say Way to Go! Turn about is fair play. >>>> >>>> JODY >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone at googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone at googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. > To post to this group, send email to viphone at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 23:04:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:04:19 -0800 Subject: phone not staying on speaker mode when not in a call In-Reply-To: <5FCDAA20-BA3D-4C8A-9252-A3BC7A4ABC60@mac-access.net> References: <210D2731-BB19-4B31-8FFB-438BA8D543BE@gmail.com> <5FCDAA20-BA3D-4C8A-9252-A3BC7A4ABC60@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9C0FE629-F606-48EE-B424-8201F0BBA310@gmail.com> No as I have about 30 heytell contacts I will need to reenvite. For now the incoming call fixed it. I will have to probably do that again if it does happen again. S On Jan 5, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Sarah > have you tried restoring the phone using iTunes? > > > On 5 Jan 2011, at 20:24, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello to all. Last night my phone started going in to handset mode randomly and now I cannot get it out. I'm not in a call and I"m not running apps. It's as if the headphone jack were still in use I think but I don't know what's going on. >> >> Last night I was playing papa sangre and this morning my phone even though I'd disconnected the headphones and closed all apps via the app switcher, it still was in handset mode. >> >> What did I do and how can I fix this? I don't want to get a new phone. I have apple care but yeah. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From support at mac-access.net Wed Jan 5 23:11:35 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:11:35 +0000 Subject: Crossposting In-Reply-To: <8247275A3ECD42EDA7E1A183CC0B7611@DouglasPC> References: <0ABE3D0A85A34014B12C6B053D957C54@ISC.local> <6FB962A5E38146F3A9A9407409C2F330@tammyPC> <8247275A3ECD42EDA7E1A183CC0B7611@DouglasPC> Message-ID: <1AFE2A8B-14B5-4110-A3D6-8A9F03A77828@mac-access.net> Douglas Please, don't make a habit of this. I know it sounds churlish perhaps. But you have to consider other users here and the list. There are very good reasons why we ask people to please not cross-post. I'm afraid we can't start making exceptions just because somebody wants their voice heard. I'm sorry, again, if this sounds churlish or it irritates you. But list policy is there for a reason. If you need to cross-post in the future, if you wouldn't mind please speaking to us first and explaining the circumstances. We are usually willing to be flexible if their is justifiable reason. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Gordon On 5 Jan 2011, at 22:43, douglas wrote: > hey, you maynotice the cross post because i would like as much imput as possible. From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Jan 5 23:14:11 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:14:11 +0000 Subject: phone not staying on speaker mode when not in a call In-Reply-To: <9C0FE629-F606-48EE-B424-8201F0BBA310@gmail.com> References: <210D2731-BB19-4B31-8FFB-438BA8D543BE@gmail.com> <5FCDAA20-BA3D-4C8A-9252-A3BC7A4ABC60@mac-access.net> <9C0FE629-F606-48EE-B424-8201F0BBA310@gmail.com> Message-ID: <35C5BD5F-06A3-4533-90FD-4EBAEB1B0C55@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah Are you having problems with your keyboard or something? I'm having quite a problem reading your posts at the moment. On 5 Jan 2011, at 23:04, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No as I have about 30 heytell contacts I will need to reenvite. For now the incoming call fixed it. I will have to probably do that again if it does happen again. From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 23:55:06 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:55:06 -0600 Subject: Crossposting In-Reply-To: <1AFE2A8B-14B5-4110-A3D6-8A9F03A77828@mac-access.net> References: <0ABE3D0A85A34014B12C6B053D957C54@ISC.local><6FB962A5E38146F3A9A9407409C2F330@tammyPC><8247275A3ECD42EDA7E1A183CC0B7611@DouglasPC> <1AFE2A8B-14B5-4110-A3D6-8A9F03A77828@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <12EC05E850DF4B93A7711277C6E6F8BD@DouglasPC> gord i am sorry, now because mac access deals with osx and ios, i don't see this a problem i was only looking for some input on what other people think of this situation, maybe they have experianced it at one point or another... i am sorry From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 00:17:49 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:17:49 -0800 Subject: Nice! apple found one of the problems Message-ID: <4557C0DF-FFBE-41CD-BE47-F8E5FE099BF6@gmail.com> Ok this is sweet! apple found one of the problems I think for vo reading incorectly wiht html messages. Here is there responce. Hi Sarah, Thanks! I was able to hear the issue. Something in the HTML is causing VoiceOver to read the font/color information for the messages. We will take a look at it. Apple Accessibility On Jan 5, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ok here is the email that reads incorrectly. Hopefully the attached message I forwarded opens correctly. I only forward attachments to spam cop. I've never doen forwarding as attachments to a human. Take care. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 00:21:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:21:12 -0800 Subject: Crossposting In-Reply-To: <12EC05E850DF4B93A7711277C6E6F8BD@DouglasPC> References: <0ABE3D0A85A34014B12C6B053D957C54@ISC.local><6FB962A5E38146F3A9A9407409C2F330@tammyPC><8247275A3ECD42EDA7E1A183CC0B7611@DouglasPC> <1AFE2A8B-14B5-4110-A3D6-8A9F03A77828@mac-access.net> <12EC05E850DF4B93A7711277C6E6F8BD@DouglasPC> Message-ID: <15A6B6A1-0991-4CE9-9401-693EA73CC9DF@gmail.com> and there are 800 or more people on the viphone list and about 100 or maybe a bit more here. I did not know this discussion was going on. Take care. s On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:55 PM, douglas wrote: > gord > i am sorry, now because mac access deals with osx and ios, i don't see this a problem i was only looking for some input on what other people think of this situation, maybe they have experianced it at one point or another... i am sorry > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 00:22:03 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:22:03 -0800 Subject: phone not staying on speaker mode when not in a call In-Reply-To: <35C5BD5F-06A3-4533-90FD-4EBAEB1B0C55@mac-access.net> References: <210D2731-BB19-4B31-8FFB-438BA8D543BE@gmail.com> <5FCDAA20-BA3D-4C8A-9252-A3BC7A4ABC60@mac-access.net> <9C0FE629-F606-48EE-B424-8201F0BBA310@gmail.com> <35C5BD5F-06A3-4533-90FD-4EBAEB1B0C55@mac-access.net> Message-ID: No the message came out fine. at least vo reads it fine. My keyboard appears to be working pretty good. On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Sarah > > Are you having problems with your keyboard or something? I'm having quite a problem reading your posts at the moment. > > On 5 Jan 2011, at 23:04, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No as I have about 30 heytell contacts I will need to reenvite. For now the incoming call fixed it. I will have to probably do that again if it does happen again. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 00:27:23 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:27:23 -0600 Subject: Crossposting In-Reply-To: <15A6B6A1-0991-4CE9-9401-693EA73CC9DF@gmail.com> References: <0ABE3D0A85A34014B12C6B053D957C54@ISC.local><6FB962A5E38146F3A9A9407409C2F330@tammyPC><8247275A3ECD42EDA7E1A183CC0B7611@DouglasPC><1AFE2A8B-14B5-4110-A3D6-8A9F03A77828@mac-access.net><12EC05E850DF4B93A7711277C6E6F8BD@DouglasPC> <15A6B6A1-0991-4CE9-9401-693EA73CC9DF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FA914FE1E144D17A189F45DF904FD1A@DouglasPC> whahoooo! someone who apreciats what i did..hehehe... I LOVE YOU SARAH!..hehahahahahah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:21 PM Subject: Re: Crossposting > and there are 800 or more people on the viphone list and about 100 or > maybe a bit more here. I did not know this discussion was going on. > > Take care. > > s > On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:55 PM, douglas wrote: > >> gord >> i am sorry, now because mac access deals with osx and ios, i don't see >> this a problem i was only looking for some input on what other people >> think of this situation, maybe they have experianced it at one point or >> another... i am sorry >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the > Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From billd at insightbb.com Thu Jan 6 03:58:15 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:58:15 -0500 Subject: external mike for the Mac Message-ID: Hello, Tonight I tried a cheep external mike on my computer. it is a USB mike. My computer is an I Mac which is several years old. it has the small jacks for plug in mikes on the back of the computer. I was wondering if I tried a mike that has a plug instead of a USB connection will I get better results. I tried the mike on my lap top computer which is a windows 7 machine and it worked fine. my mac is a I Mac 52 processor speed 1.83 gigs 2 gigs memory and an intell. So inconconclusion, would a mike with a mini jack work better than a mike with a USB connection on my computer? Thanks for listening to all my questions. Bill Deatherage From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 04:35:20 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:35:20 -0800 Subject: external mike for the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try the usb connection mic if you still have it. Leave or bring your volume slider down to 50 percent to just in case if you distort. Good luck. On Jan 5, 2011, at 7:58 PM, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > Tonight I tried a cheep external mike on my computer. it is a USB mike. My computer is an I Mac which is several years old. it has the small jacks for plug in mikes on the back of the computer. I was wondering if I tried a mike that has a plug instead of a USB connection will I get better results. I tried the mike on my lap top computer which is a windows 7 machine and it worked fine. > my mac is a I Mac 52 processor speed 1.83 gigs 2 gigs memory and an intell. > So inconconclusion, would a mike with a mini jack work better than a mike with a USB connection on my computer? > Thanks for listening to all my questions. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jan 6 09:37:04 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:37:04 +0000 Subject: iTunes - annoying bug ? Message-ID: <331D64DE-1A81-469B-AEB7-8C75C76085C6@blueyonder.co.uk> Hi I have a couple of iTunes annoyances I would like to share, maybe some of you have encountered the same or have some suggestions or advice. First of all, I could not find Tina Turner in my playlist browser (why is this called a playlist browser by VO when in fact it is just a browser to let you filter by artist genre and album?) and I could not find Tina Turner in my list of artists. I thought this is very odd so I did a search for Tina Turner and yes indeed I had albums and tracks by her on compilations too. When I interacted with the "playlist" browser I could see the genres and also the albums that featured Tina Turner including her greatest hits (All the best), but under the artist browser there was no artists but compilations was listed. So I tried looking at the get info on individual tracks and multiple tracks and noticed Tina Turner was listed as the artist and the album artist was also listed as Tina Turner too. So I thought well why the hell are these tracks not showing up in my browser under her name? I also noticed when selecting multiple tracks a tick box appears next to artist and album artist, I am not sure what they do? but I ticked them anyway. I still had no success and then I looked into the options tab within get info and saw that the compilations option had been set to yes, so I changed it to no. Would you believe it? Tina Turner now appears in my artist browser. So it got me thinking, what other artists are hidden from my browser as they are listed as compilation instead? What use is this feature if it is going to hide the artist name from the browser? I always either use search or the browser when looking for music within my library, as that is how I used to do it when sighted. Another annoying bug with iTunes is that VO does not follow the iTunes cursor. So I have to remember to press control and L to move the iTunes cursor to where the VO ones is before copying that track to a play list. And when you do press command + L VO does not read out the track that the iTunes cursor has been moved to. I would also like a shortcut key to tell me what track is playing and by who without having to interact with the LCD window. Chris From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 12:28:15 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:28:15 +0000 Subject: Crossposting In-Reply-To: <12EC05E850DF4B93A7711277C6E6F8BD@DouglasPC> References: <0ABE3D0A85A34014B12C6B053D957C54@ISC.local><6FB962A5E38146F3A9A9407409C2F330@tammyPC><8247275A3ECD42EDA7E1A183CC0B7611@DouglasPC> <1AFE2A8B-14B5-4110-A3D6-8A9F03A77828@mac-access.net> <12EC05E850DF4B93A7711277C6E6F8BD@DouglasPC> Message-ID: Hi Douglas Not a problem, we're not sentencing you to life in jail. :) It's just difficult to retain our identity if we simply replicate other groups. I understand where you're coming from, and for whatever it's worth, I think it is shocking that anybody would object to a potential customer enabling part of the OS. I, for one, have already done this in an Apple store and the reaction was very positive. So I think, (I hope), this kind of attitude is very much in the minority. Sad though it is, you will always get the odd person here and there who simply does not understand that all you're doing is turning on a Mac or iOS function. Gordon On 5 Jan 2011, at 23:55, douglas wrote: > gord > i am sorry, now because mac access deals with osx and ios, i don't see this a problem i was only looking for some input on what other people think of this situation, maybe they have experianced it at one point or another... i am sorry > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 12:32:34 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:32:34 +0000 Subject: Nice! apple found one of the problems In-Reply-To: <4557C0DF-FFBE-41CD-BE47-F8E5FE099BF6@gmail.com> References: <4557C0DF-FFBE-41CD-BE47-F8E5FE099BF6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <925843B6-24BC-4001-A039-4C9BCECCB12C@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah Odd how these things happen. I have just experienced the issue where raw code is being read in the HTML content of a message. But it only seems to happen where there are font specific changes. I am going to try creating myself a nice little HTML message using a different mail client, then gradually change it until I get the behaviour. That way I can maybe help Apple to debug this. On 6 Jan 2011, at 00:17, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Ok this is sweet! apple found one of the problems I think for vo reading incorectly wiht html messages. Here is there responce. From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 12:41:34 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:41:34 +0000 Subject: phone not staying on speaker mode when not in a call In-Reply-To: References: <210D2731-BB19-4B31-8FFB-438BA8D543BE@gmail.com> <5FCDAA20-BA3D-4C8A-9252-A3BC7A4ABC60@mac-access.net> <9C0FE629-F606-48EE-B424-8201F0BBA310@gmail.com> <35C5BD5F-06A3-4533-90FD-4EBAEB1B0C55@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Sarah Those of us using Braille may be seeing things that you are not hearing. Do you have spell checking turned off? I guess you must have or you would be aware of what is happening. I'm not complaining or criticising Sarah, don't get me wrong. I just thought there might be a problem you were not aware of. Your spacing is a bit off, that's all, so sometimes you're getting 3 words strung together as one. But in your response to my question it was perfectly alright. On 6 Jan 2011, at 00:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No the message came out fine. at least vo reads it fine. My keyboard appears to be working pretty good. From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 12:46:47 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:46:47 +0000 Subject: external mike for the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bill I think, from memory as it's a while since our 2006 iMac died, you'd need an amplified microphone, such as an electret. Gordon On 6 Jan 2011, at 03:58, William Deatherage wrote: > Tonight I tried a cheep external mike on my computer. it is a USB mike. My computer is an I Mac which is several years old. it has the small jacks for plug in mikes on the back of the computer. I was wondering if I tried a mike that has a plug instead of a USB connection will I get better results. I tried the mike on my lap top computer which is a windows 7 machine and it worked fine. > my mac is a I Mac 52 processor speed 1.83 gigs 2 gigs memory and an intell. > So inconconclusion, would a mike with a mini jack work better than a mike with a USB connection on my computer From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 12:50:25 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:50:25 +0000 Subject: iTunes - annoying bug ? In-Reply-To: <331D64DE-1A81-469B-AEB7-8C75C76085C6@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <331D64DE-1A81-469B-AEB7-8C75C76085C6@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Chris Try doing a search for "Various", see what you get. Gordon On 6 Jan 2011, at 09:37, Chris Moore wrote: > Hi I have a couple of iTunes annoyances I would like to share, maybe some of you have encountered the same or have some suggestions or advice. > > First of all, I could not find Tina Turner in my playlist browser (why is this called a playlist browser by VO when in fact it is just a browser to let you filter by artist genre and album?) and I could not find Tina Turner in my list of artists. I thought this is very odd so I did a search for Tina Turner and yes indeed I had albums and tracks by her on compilations too. When I interacted with the "playlist" browser I could see the genres and also the albums that featured Tina Turner including her greatest hits (All the best), but under the artist browser there was no artists but compilations was listed. > > So I tried looking at the get info on individual tracks and multiple tracks and noticed Tina Turner was listed as the artist and the album artist was also listed as Tina Turner too. So I thought well why the hell are these tracks not showing up in my browser under her name? I also noticed when selecting multiple tracks a tick box appears next to artist and album artist, I am not sure what they do? but I ticked them anyway. > > I still had no success and then I looked into the options tab within get info and saw that the compilations option had been set to yes, so I changed it to no. Would you believe it? Tina Turner now appears in my artist browser. So it got me thinking, what other artists are hidden from my browser as they are listed as compilation instead? What use is this feature if it is going to hide the artist name from the browser? I always either use search or the browser when looking for music within my library, as that is how I used to do it when sighted. > > Another annoying bug with iTunes is that VO does not follow the iTunes cursor. So I have to remember to press control and L to move the iTunes cursor to where the VO ones is before copying that track to a play list. And when you do press command + L VO does not read out the track that the iTunes cursor has been moved to. > > I would also like a shortcut key to tell me what track is playing and by who without having to interact with the LCD window. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au Thu Jan 6 14:22:18 2011 From: vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au (Vaughn Bennison) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:22:18 +1000 Subject: iTunes - annoying bug ? In-Reply-To: <331D64DE-1A81-469B-AEB7-8C75C76085C6@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <331D64DE-1A81-469B-AEB7-8C75C76085C6@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Some time I really worry about iTunes! I haven't had the problems you mention, but my mac mini keeps aying "itunes busy". I can't work out why, but I did wonder if it had something to do with the fact that I have about 13000 items in my library. I don't see why this should be a problem though. Also, despite unchecking the download album art box, I still get "processing album art"!!!! Very annoying! Vaughn. On 06/01/2011, at 7:37 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Hi I have a couple of iTunes annoyances I would like to share, maybe some of you have encountered the same or have some suggestions or advice. > > First of all, I could not find Tina Turner in my playlist browser (why is this called a playlist browser by VO when in fact it is just a browser to let you filter by artist genre and album?) and I could not find Tina Turner in my list of artists. I thought this is very odd so I did a search for Tina Turner and yes indeed I had albums and tracks by her on compilations too. When I interacted with the "playlist" browser I could see the genres and also the albums that featured Tina Turner including her greatest hits (All the best), but under the artist browser there was no artists but compilations was listed. > > So I tried looking at the get info on individual tracks and multiple tracks and noticed Tina Turner was listed as the artist and the album artist was also listed as Tina Turner too. So I thought well why the hell are these tracks not showing up in my browser under her name? I also noticed when selecting multiple tracks a tick box appears next to artist and album artist, I am not sure what they do? but I ticked them anyway. > > I still had no success and then I looked into the options tab within get info and saw that the compilations option had been set to yes, so I changed it to no. Would you believe it? Tina Turner now appears in my artist browser. So it got me thinking, what other artists are hidden from my browser as they are listed as compilation instead? What use is this feature if it is going to hide the artist name from the browser? I always either use search or the browser when looking for music within my library, as that is how I used to do it when sighted. > > Another annoying bug with iTunes is that VO does not follow the iTunes cursor. So I have to remember to press control and L to move the iTunes cursor to where the VO ones is before copying that track to a play list. And when you do press command + L VO does not read out the track that the iTunes cursor has been moved to. > > I would also like a shortcut key to tell me what track is playing and by who without having to interact with the LCD window. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From DFITZPAT at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jan 6 14:40:11 2011 From: DFITZPAT at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:40:11 +0000 Subject: 10.6.6 released. Message-ID: <6128A562-D755-46C5-A515-111654C8E1DA@computing.dcu.ie> Just giving a heads-up that it is out today. Also, Apple have launched their mac-appstore. 10.6.6 is only a small update this time, 114 meg on my setup here. D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jan 6 14:41:27 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:41:27 +0000 Subject: iTunes - annoying bug ? In-Reply-To: References: <331D64DE-1A81-469B-AEB7-8C75C76085C6@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <692D02F8-CE83-470F-BA9F-BA8D7A9E3650@blueyonder.co.uk> Well I have 200,000 in my Library and it does not say busy, so not sure why yours is doing that. Are you downloading lots of podcats in the background perhaps? On 6 Jan 2011, at 14:22, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > Some time I really worry about iTunes! I haven't had the problems you mention, but my mac mini keeps aying "itunes busy". I can't work out why, but I did wonder if it had something to do with the fact that I have about 13000 items in my library. I don't see why this should be a problem though. Also, despite unchecking the download album art box, I still get "processing album art"!!!! > > Very annoying! > > Vaughn. > On 06/01/2011, at 7:37 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Hi I have a couple of iTunes annoyances I would like to share, maybe some of you have encountered the same or have some suggestions or advice. >> >> First of all, I could not find Tina Turner in my playlist browser (why is this called a playlist browser by VO when in fact it is just a browser to let you filter by artist genre and album?) and I could not find Tina Turner in my list of artists. I thought this is very odd so I did a search for Tina Turner and yes indeed I had albums and tracks by her on compilations too. When I interacted with the "playlist" browser I could see the genres and also the albums that featured Tina Turner including her greatest hits (All the best), but under the artist browser there was no artists but compilations was listed. >> >> So I tried looking at the get info on individual tracks and multiple tracks and noticed Tina Turner was listed as the artist and the album artist was also listed as Tina Turner too. So I thought well why the hell are these tracks not showing up in my browser under her name? I also noticed when selecting multiple tracks a tick box appears next to artist and album artist, I am not sure what they do? but I ticked them anyway. >> >> I still had no success and then I looked into the options tab within get info and saw that the compilations option had been set to yes, so I changed it to no. Would you believe it? Tina Turner now appears in my artist browser. So it got me thinking, what other artists are hidden from my browser as they are listed as compilation instead? What use is this feature if it is going to hide the artist name from the browser? I always either use search or the browser when looking for music within my library, as that is how I used to do it when sighted. >> >> Another annoying bug with iTunes is that VO does not follow the iTunes cursor. So I have to remember to press control and L to move the iTunes cursor to where the VO ones is before copying that track to a play list. And when you do press command + L VO does not read out the track that the iTunes cursor has been moved to. >> >> I would also like a shortcut key to tell me what track is playing and by who without having to interact with the LCD window. >> >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jan 6 14:45:47 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:45:47 +0000 Subject: external mike for the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <60ACA8DF-38E1-4176-A00B-3513E210880D@blueyonder.co.uk> Get the snowball by Blue, it is awesome. On 6 Jan 2011, at 12:46, Gordon Smith wrote: > Bill > > I think, from memory as it's a while since our 2006 iMac died, you'd need an amplified microphone, such as an electret. > > Gordon > > On 6 Jan 2011, at 03:58, William Deatherage wrote: > >> Tonight I tried a cheep external mike on my computer. it is a USB mike. My computer is an I Mac which is several years old. it has the small jacks for plug in mikes on the back of the computer. I was wondering if I tried a mike that has a plug instead of a USB connection will I get better results. I tried the mike on my lap top computer which is a windows 7 machine and it worked fine. >> my mac is a I Mac 52 processor speed 1.83 gigs 2 gigs memory and an intell. >> So inconconclusion, would a mike with a mini jack work better than a mike with a USB connection on my computer > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From moopiecurran at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 15:22:22 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:22:22 -0500 Subject: 10.6.6 released. In-Reply-To: <6128A562-D755-46C5-A515-111654C8E1DA@computing.dcu.ie> References: <6128A562-D755-46C5-A515-111654C8E1DA@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hi, I didn't install 10.6.5 on my macbook because of that previously mentioned bug on some macbooks, so my question is can I just completely skip 10.6.5 and go directly to 10.6.6, or do I have to install 10.6.5 first? Thanks, Courtney On Jan 6, 2011, at 9:40 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Just giving a heads-up that it is out today. Also, Apple have launched their mac-appstore. 10.6.6 is only a small update this time, 114 meg on my setup here. > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jan 6 15:24:15 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:24:15 +0000 Subject: 10.6.6 released. In-Reply-To: References: <6128A562-D755-46C5-A515-111654C8E1DA@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hi there, There should be a "combo" update available from the apple website. This will have all of the patches/updates you have missed. Cheers D?nal On 6 Jan 2011, at 15:22, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I didn't install 10.6.5 on my macbook because of that previously mentioned bug on some macbooks, so my question is can I just completely skip 10.6.5 and go directly to 10.6.6, or do I have to install 10.6.5 first? > Thanks, > Courtney > On Jan 6, 2011, at 9:40 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Just giving a heads-up that it is out today. Also, Apple have launched their mac-appstore. 10.6.6 is only a small update this time, 114 meg on my setup here. >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From wa9dro at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 15:49:38 2011 From: wa9dro at gmail.com (Keith Reedy) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:49:38 -0500 Subject: 10.6.6 released. In-Reply-To: References: <6128A562-D755-46C5-A515-111654C8E1DA@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Here is the combo, http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1349 Keith Reedy Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 On Jan 6, 2011, at 10:24 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi there, > > There should be a "combo" update available from the apple website. This will have all of the patches/updates you have missed. > > Cheers > > D?nal > On 6 Jan 2011, at 15:22, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I didn't install 10.6.5 on my macbook because of that previously mentioned bug on some macbooks, so my question is can I just completely skip 10.6.5 and go directly to 10.6.6, or do I have to install 10.6.5 first? >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> On Jan 6, 2011, at 9:40 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Just giving a heads-up that it is out today. Also, Apple have launched their mac-appstore. 10.6.6 is only a small update this time, 114 meg on my setup here. >>> >>> D?nal >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jan 6 16:32:06 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:32:06 +0000 Subject: designing a form Message-ID: Greetings all, I've been handed a rather obscure thing to do so I said I'd put it out there to see if anyone else has had need to do this. I have to design a form to enable students to propose a project idea. I used to be able to do this in Word, but can't seem to get pages to behave. Has anyone managed to do something like this? D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From support at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 16:51:12 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:51:12 +0000 Subject: Returning Member Welcome Message-ID: <8F3AB57F-C54D-45BB-96C7-64BF01E2C288@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new or returning members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome back William lomas to our number. Our records indicate that William was a member of this group at one time. 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For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Jan 6 16:55:35 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:55:35 +0000 Subject: App Store question Message-ID: <1F324FBE-C134-49E2-9235-717A3D96E8C6@hopewell.org.uk> Hello All, I see that MAC OS 10.6.6 is now available and includes the new app store. One nice feature of the app store is the ability to easily check for updates for all apps purchased from the app store and to then do the updates just like on the iPhone. Does anyone know what the situation is if the app store contains an app (e.g. panic transmit) which I purchased before there was an app store. Is there any way to cross check all installed apps with the apps in the app store and to have the app store recognise that you already own these apps? Paul Hopewell From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Jan 6 17:16:55 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:16:55 +0000 Subject: Getting rid of old apps from "Finder's Open With" Message-ID: <6E6EC117-523D-440C-860E-CB1667E01654@hopewell.org.uk> Hello All, I have just updated my version of taco html edit. I use it to open html files by finding the file via the Finder and then using the file option "Open With". I now find that the new version of html edit is in the list of possible apps along with the two prior versions which have long since been deleted. Any thoughts on how to get rid of these old apps from the Finder "Open With" sub menu? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 17:20:39 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:20:39 +0000 Subject: Getting rid of old apps from "Finder's Open With" In-Reply-To: <6E6EC117-523D-440C-860E-CB1667E01654@hopewell.org.uk> References: <6E6EC117-523D-440C-860E-CB1667E01654@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Paul, Check out this article from Mac OSX Hints for slimming down the "open with" menu. http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20030730161311391 Take care James On 6 Jan 2011, at 17:16, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello All, > I have just updated my version of taco html edit. I use it to open html files by finding the file via the Finder and then using the file option "Open With". I now find that the new version of html edit is in the list of possible apps along with the two prior versions which have long since been deleted. Any thoughts on how to get rid of these old apps from the Finder "Open With" sub menu? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 17:23:42 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:23:42 +0000 Subject: external mike for the Mac In-Reply-To: <60ACA8DF-38E1-4176-A00B-3513E210880D@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <60ACA8DF-38E1-4176-A00B-3513E210880D@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <21A1A84D-BA8E-4CE9-AA52-88B0D1C34DA2@mac-access.net> Chris Info please, as I'm on the hunt for something like this that's high quality. On 6 Jan 2011, at 14:45, Chris Moore wrote: > Get the snowball by Blue, it is awesome. From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 17:24:36 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:24:36 +0000 Subject: 10.6.6 released. In-Reply-To: References: <6128A562-D755-46C5-A515-111654C8E1DA@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <49CDEDEA-6FC6-4D04-872E-375223AC5C05@mac-access.net> Hi Courtney If you use Software Update it will sort out what you need for you. On 6 Jan 2011, at 15:22, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I didn't install 10.6.5 on my macbook because of that previously mentioned bug on some macbooks, so my question is can I just completely skip 10.6.5 and go directly to 10.6.6, or do I have to install 10.6.5 first? From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 17:28:43 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:28:43 +0000 Subject: 10.6.6 released. In-Reply-To: References: <6128A562-D755-46C5-A515-111654C8E1DA@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: For those who use it, we are also putting the combo updater in our software collection so it's easy to get at at any time using a secure transfer. Gordon On 6 Jan 2011, at 15:49, Keith Reedy wrote: > Here is the combo From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 17:29:48 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:29:48 +0000 Subject: designing a form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are you talking about an HTML form? On 6 Jan 2011, at 16:32, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Greetings all, > > I've been handed a rather obscure thing to do so I said I'd put it out there to see if anyone else has had need to do this. > > I have to design a form to enable students to propose a project idea. I used to be able to do this in Word, but can't seem to get pages to behave. > > Has anyone managed to do something like this? > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jan 6 17:30:39 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:30:39 +0000 Subject: designing a form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No a Word/PDF one. On 6 Jan 2011, at 17:29, Gordon Smith wrote: > Are you talking about an HTML form? > > On 6 Jan 2011, at 16:32, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Greetings all, >> >> I've been handed a rather obscure thing to do so I said I'd put it out there to see if anyone else has had need to do this. >> >> I have to design a form to enable students to propose a project idea. I used to be able to do this in Word, but can't seem to get pages to behave. >> >> Has anyone managed to do something like this? >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 17:31:25 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:31:25 +0000 Subject: Getting rid of old apps from "Finder's Open With" In-Reply-To: <6E6EC117-523D-440C-860E-CB1667E01654@hopewell.org.uk> References: <6E6EC117-523D-440C-860E-CB1667E01654@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Paul Do you have Cocktail? That's the best way to do this, although it does return everything to defaults. But I agree, this is a pain. On 6 Jan 2011, at 17:16, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello All, > I have just updated my version of taco html edit. I use it to open html files by finding the file via the Finder and then using the file option "Open With". I now find that the new version of html edit is in the list of possible apps along with the two prior versions which have long since been deleted. Any thoughts on how to get rid of these old apps from the Finder "Open With" sub menu? From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jan 6 18:11:31 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 18:11:31 +0000 Subject: external mike for the Mac In-Reply-To: <21A1A84D-BA8E-4CE9-AA52-88B0D1C34DA2@mac-access.net> References: <60ACA8DF-38E1-4176-A00B-3513E210880D@blueyonder.co.uk> <21A1A84D-BA8E-4CE9-AA52-88B0D1C34DA2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2B580E69-F305-41FC-AE28-FEA0B8EA4684@blueyonder.co.uk> Gordon, Check this out at the Apple Store. http://store.apple.com/uk/product/TF238LL/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY Chris On 6 Jan 2011, at 17:23, Gordon Smith wrote: > Chris > > Info please, as I'm on the hunt for something like this that's high quality. > > On 6 Jan 2011, at 14:45, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Get the snowball by Blue, it is awesome. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 20:23:27 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:23:27 +0100 Subject: App Store question In-Reply-To: <1F324FBE-C134-49E2-9235-717A3D96E8C6@hopewell.org.uk> References: <1F324FBE-C134-49E2-9235-717A3D96E8C6@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <76658893-0D3C-4995-8418-6A90FB340232@gmail.com> Hello! I have several apps. When I go to the button containing either the price or the "free" label, it will be dimmed and grayed out. At least, that is the case with Transmit so this should be the case with apps you already have. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello All, > I see that MAC OS 10.6.6 is now available and includes the new app store. > > One nice feature of the app store is the ability to easily check for updates for all apps purchased from the app store and to then do the updates just like on the iPhone. > > Does anyone know what the situation is if the app store contains an app (e.g. panic transmit) which I purchased before there was an app store. Is there any way to cross check all installed apps with the apps in the app store and to have the app store recognise that you already own these apps? > > Paul Hopewell > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 20:47:36 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:47:36 -0600 Subject: App Store question In-Reply-To: <76658893-0D3C-4995-8418-6A90FB340232@gmail.com> References: <1F324FBE-C134-49E2-9235-717A3D96E8C6@hopewell.org.uk> <76658893-0D3C-4995-8418-6A90FB340232@gmail.com> Message-ID: hey bud, can you send messages as a message instaid of an attachment, is much safer for all of us.. tia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolai Svendsen" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:23 PM Subject: Re: App Store question > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the > Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jan 6 21:11:50 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:11:50 +0000 Subject: App Store question In-Reply-To: References: <1F324FBE-C134-49E2-9235-717A3D96E8C6@hopewell.org.uk> <76658893-0D3C-4995-8418-6A90FB340232@gmail.com> Message-ID: <35BDF573-A013-4986-9B67-9F43530ECE86@computing.dcu.ie> Erm, Nick's messages are coming through fine for me, and always have! given his wealth of experience I'd say you're perfectly safe trusting that his messages are ok to open. *laughing* On 6 Jan 2011, at 20:47, douglas wrote: > hey bud, can you send messages as a message instaid of an attachment, is much safer for all of us.. > tia > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolai Svendsen" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: App Store question > > >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 21:11:52 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:11:52 +0100 Subject: App Store question In-Reply-To: References: <1F324FBE-C134-49E2-9235-717A3D96E8C6@hopewell.org.uk> <76658893-0D3C-4995-8418-6A90FB340232@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi DOuglas, It appears something must be going on at your end then, since I did not send any attachments. You are probably looking at my security certificate most likely, which is not an attachment but serves to ensure that I am actually the correct sender as opposed to a falsified e-mail address. Since you are the first person to actually mention this, it's probably safe to assume the issue is not on my end since I have not changed any settings since last posting to the list and I have not had any mentions of this as stated above. As a test, I have removed the digital signing of this message. if anyone else gets this, let me know. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jan 6, 2011, at 9:47 PM, douglas wrote: > hey bud, can you send messages as a message instaid of an attachment, is much safer for all of us.. > tia > From vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au Thu Jan 6 21:47:33 2011 From: vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au (Vaughn Bennison) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:47:33 +1000 Subject: iTunes - annoying bug ? In-Reply-To: <692D02F8-CE83-470F-BA9F-BA8D7A9E3650@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <331D64DE-1A81-469B-AEB7-8C75C76085C6@blueyonder.co.uk> <692D02F8-CE83-470F-BA9F-BA8D7A9E3650@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <49AE950C-1792-4240-B958-8C4CB3C91541@netspace.net.au> No, firstly I added the files to the library from my storage drive which is connected through my wireless network, nd that was very slow. That just caused itunes to become completely unresponsive. Then I decided to use a second backup drive, and connect that directly to the machine. That was a lot better, but still kept being busy. I've uninstalled itunes, and everything! Vaughn. On 07/01/2011, at 12:41 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Well I have 200,000 in my Library and it does not say busy, so not sure why yours is doing that. Are you downloading lots of podcats in the background perhaps? > On 6 Jan 2011, at 14:22, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > >> Some time I really worry about iTunes! I haven't had the problems you mention, but my mac mini keeps aying "itunes busy". I can't work out why, but I did wonder if it had something to do with the fact that I have about 13000 items in my library. I don't see why this should be a problem though. Also, despite unchecking the download album art box, I still get "processing album art"!!!! >> >> Very annoying! >> >> Vaughn. >> On 06/01/2011, at 7:37 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Hi I have a couple of iTunes annoyances I would like to share, maybe some of you have encountered the same or have some suggestions or advice. >>> >>> First of all, I could not find Tina Turner in my playlist browser (why is this called a playlist browser by VO when in fact it is just a browser to let you filter by artist genre and album?) and I could not find Tina Turner in my list of artists. I thought this is very odd so I did a search for Tina Turner and yes indeed I had albums and tracks by her on compilations too. When I interacted with the "playlist" browser I could see the genres and also the albums that featured Tina Turner including her greatest hits (All the best), but under the artist browser there was no artists but compilations was listed. >>> >>> So I tried looking at the get info on individual tracks and multiple tracks and noticed Tina Turner was listed as the artist and the album artist was also listed as Tina Turner too. So I thought well why the hell are these tracks not showing up in my browser under her name? I also noticed when selecting multiple tracks a tick box appears next to artist and album artist, I am not sure what they do? but I ticked them anyway. >>> >>> I still had no success and then I looked into the options tab within get info and saw that the compilations option had been set to yes, so I changed it to no. Would you believe it? Tina Turner now appears in my artist browser. So it got me thinking, what other artists are hidden from my browser as they are listed as compilation instead? What use is this feature if it is going to hide the artist name from the browser? I always either use search or the browser when looking for music within my library, as that is how I used to do it when sighted. >>> >>> Another annoying bug with iTunes is that VO does not follow the iTunes cursor. So I have to remember to press control and L to move the iTunes cursor to where the VO ones is before copying that track to a play list. And when you do press command + L VO does not read out the track that the iTunes cursor has been moved to. >>> >>> I would also like a shortcut key to tell me what track is playing and by who without having to interact with the LCD window. >>> >>> Chris >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 22:35:10 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:35:10 -0800 Subject: Apple May Or May Not Be Searching For a New CFO Message-ID: What's going on here? When will we find out the truth? read more: http://goo.gl/acBv7 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 22:38:33 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:38:33 -0800 Subject: First Wave of Mac App Store Apps Features Broad Range of Prices Message-ID: <275180FF-12B6-4653-8D3A-4E60C922F3C6@gmail.com> since the mac app store will not allow demos and the prices are so broad will the be acceptable to old mac users in this bout of hard times? read more: http://goo.gl/zztpQ From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 22:40:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:40:19 -0800 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store Message-ID: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> I've noticed some stuff wrong with he update but what do you all think of the update and the mac app store being released today? read more here. http://goo.gl/frEKu From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 22:46:45 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:46:45 +0000 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1BBCA30D-6B7A-488F-97C8-9C28C82DF997@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah, Do you mean that there are bugs with the update or that the information in the article is incorrect? Thanks James On 6 Jan 2011, at 22:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I've noticed some stuff wrong with he update but what do you all think of the update and the mac app store being released today? read more here. > > http://goo.gl/frEKu > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 22:56:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:56:12 -0800 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: <1BBCA30D-6B7A-488F-97C8-9C28C82DF997@mac-access.net> References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> <1BBCA30D-6B7A-488F-97C8-9C28C82DF997@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5E40AC3D-C8B7-49EB-82C4-6187D4E756A8@gmail.com> No I'm finding some slight bugs in the update. the article is correct however. I'm finding my mac is running slightly hot and tht webkit is just a tad slugish. S On Jan 6, 2011, at 2:46 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Do you mean that there are bugs with the update or that the information in the article is incorrect? > > Thanks > James > On 6 Jan 2011, at 22:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I've noticed some stuff wrong with he update but what do you all think of the update and the mac app store being released today? read more here. >> >> http://goo.gl/frEKu >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 22:57:20 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:57:20 -0800 Subject: iTunes - annoying bug ? In-Reply-To: References: <331D64DE-1A81-469B-AEB7-8C75C76085C6@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: and have your cursers follow each other. this can be done from wiht in the vo prefs. S On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:50 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Chris > > Try doing a search for "Various", see what you get. > > Gordon > > On 6 Jan 2011, at 09:37, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Hi I have a couple of iTunes annoyances I would like to share, maybe some of you have encountered the same or have some suggestions or advice. >> >> First of all, I could not find Tina Turner in my playlist browser (why is this called a playlist browser by VO when in fact it is just a browser to let you filter by artist genre and album?) and I could not find Tina Turner in my list of artists. I thought this is very odd so I did a search for Tina Turner and yes indeed I had albums and tracks by her on compilations too. When I interacted with the "playlist" browser I could see the genres and also the albums that featured Tina Turner including her greatest hits (All the best), but under the artist browser there was no artists but compilations was listed. >> >> So I tried looking at the get info on individual tracks and multiple tracks and noticed Tina Turner was listed as the artist and the album artist was also listed as Tina Turner too. So I thought well why the hell are these tracks not showing up in my browser under her name? I also noticed when selecting multiple tracks a tick box appears next to artist and album artist, I am not sure what they do? but I ticked them anyway. >> >> I still had no success and then I looked into the options tab within get info and saw that the compilations option had been set to yes, so I changed it to no. Would you believe it? Tina Turner now appears in my artist browser. So it got me thinking, what other artists are hidden from my browser as they are listed as compilation instead? What use is this feature if it is going to hide the artist name from the browser? I always either use search or the browser when looking for music within my library, as that is how I used to do it when sighted. >> >> Another annoying bug with iTunes is that VO does not follow the iTunes cursor. So I have to remember to press control and L to move the iTunes cursor to where the VO ones is before copying that track to a play list. And when you do press command + L VO does not read out the track that the iTunes cursor has been moved to. >> >> I would also like a shortcut key to tell me what track is playing and by who without having to interact with the LCD window. >> >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 22:59:44 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:59:44 -0800 Subject: external mike for the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7D535D05-D746-4B83-AC3D-6F41E558980F@gmail.com> OH yeah tht only takes line levels only so you would as he said need an amp for you mic. Might I if they still around recomend the aps from church audio. they are quite nice. S On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:46 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Bill > > I think, from memory as it's a while since our 2006 iMac died, you'd need an amplified microphone, such as an electret. > > Gordon > > On 6 Jan 2011, at 03:58, William Deatherage wrote: > >> Tonight I tried a cheep external mike on my computer. it is a USB mike. My computer is an I Mac which is several years old. it has the small jacks for plug in mikes on the back of the computer. I was wondering if I tried a mike that has a plug instead of a USB connection will I get better results. I tried the mike on my lap top computer which is a windows 7 machine and it worked fine. >> my mac is a I Mac 52 processor speed 1.83 gigs 2 gigs memory and an intell. >> So inconconclusion, would a mike with a mini jack work better than a mike with a USB connection on my computer > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 23:01:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:01:53 -0800 Subject: phone not staying on speaker mode when not in a call In-Reply-To: References: <210D2731-BB19-4B31-8FFB-438BA8D543BE@gmail.com> <5FCDAA20-BA3D-4C8A-9252-A3BC7A4ABC60@mac-access.net> <9C0FE629-F606-48EE-B424-8201F0BBA310@gmail.com> <35C5BD5F-06A3-4533-90FD-4EBAEB1B0C55@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hmm I dunno. No I don't have a braille display. Mauybe my space bar is going but oh well. lol! S. On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > Those of us using Braille may be seeing things that you are not hearing. Do you have spell checking turned off? I guess you must have or you would be aware of what is happening. I'm not complaining or criticising Sarah, don't get me wrong. I just thought there might be a problem you were not aware of. > > Your spacing is a bit off, that's all, so sometimes you're getting 3 words strung together as one. But in your response to my question it was perfectly alright. > > On 6 Jan 2011, at 00:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No the message came out fine. at least vo reads it fine. My keyboard appears to be working pretty good. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 6 23:02:21 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:02:21 -0800 Subject: Nice! apple found one of the problems In-Reply-To: <925843B6-24BC-4001-A039-4C9BCECCB12C@mac-access.net> References: <4557C0DF-FFBE-41CD-BE47-F8E5FE099BF6@gmail.com> <925843B6-24BC-4001-A039-4C9BCECCB12C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Yeah good idea. keep us and them posted on this. Take care. S On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Sarah > > Odd how these things happen. I have just experienced the issue where raw code is being read in the HTML content of a message. But it only seems to happen where there are font specific changes. I am going to try creating myself a nice little HTML message using a different mail client, then gradually change it until I get the behaviour. That way I can maybe help Apple to debug this. > > On 6 Jan 2011, at 00:17, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ok this is sweet! apple found one of the problems I think for vo reading incorectly wiht html messages. Here is there responce. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jan 6 23:19:07 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:19:07 +0000 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: <5E40AC3D-C8B7-49EB-82C4-6187D4E756A8@gmail.com> References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> <1BBCA30D-6B7A-488F-97C8-9C28C82DF997@mac-access.net> <5E40AC3D-C8B7-49EB-82C4-6187D4E756A8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Have you repaired Permissions since updating? Take care James On 6 Jan 2011, at 22:56, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No I'm finding some slight bugs in the update. the article is correct however. I'm finding my mac is running slightly hot and tht webkit is just a tad slugish. > > S > On Jan 6, 2011, at 2:46 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Do you mean that there are bugs with the update or that the information in the article is incorrect? >> >> Thanks >> James >> On 6 Jan 2011, at 22:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I've noticed some stuff wrong with he update but what do you all think of the update and the mac app store being released today? read more here. >>> >>> http://goo.gl/frEKu >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From wa9dro at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 00:04:08 2011 From: wa9dro at gmail.com (Keith Reedy) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:04:08 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Amadeus Lite References: <7D4389A9-F765-44E9-AB43-A8979D5D0C49@HairerSoft.com> Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > From: Martin Hairer > Date: January 6, 2011 10:32:46 AM EST > To: Amadeus discussion list > Subject: Amadeus Lite > Reply-To: Amadeus discussion list > > Dear all, just to let you know that there is now a lightweight version > of Amadeus Pro, Amadeus Lite available at > > http://www.hairersoft.com/AmadeusLite/ > > It offers mostly a subset of the functions that Amadeus Pro offers, so it > will be of limited interest for most of you. However, it has a revamped > user interface (in particular with much nicer vu-meters) and it includes > "smart editing", which automatically inserts small cross-fades at edit > points in order to avoid discontinuities in the waveform (can be turned > off in the prefs). > > If you have a license for Amadeus Pro, Amadeus Lite will figure that out > and the demo version from the website will actually be fully functional, > so it costs you nothing to have both versions installed alongside each > other! > > As usual, bug reports, feedback, etc are most welcome! Regards, > > Martin > > HairerSoft > http://www.hairersoft.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Amadeus forum mailing list > Unsubscribe / change settings at http://two.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/forum_list From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 00:18:07 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:18:07 -0800 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> <1BBCA30D-6B7A-488F-97C8-9C28C82DF997@mac-access.net> <5E40AC3D-C8B7-49EB-82C4-6187D4E756A8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55CDDED6-5B8F-4A99-9896-B5859B06F292@gmail.com> Yep just did that and the fan is still running. I also had a look at the app store and it looked a lot like the itunes app store except to my viewing it didn't have prices listed. S On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:19 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Have you repaired Permissions since updating? > > Take care > > James > On 6 Jan 2011, at 22:56, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No I'm finding some slight bugs in the update. the article is correct however. I'm finding my mac is running slightly hot and tht webkit is just a tad slugish. >> >> S >> On Jan 6, 2011, at 2:46 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> Do you mean that there are bugs with the update or that the information in the article is incorrect? >>> >>> Thanks >>> James >>> On 6 Jan 2011, at 22:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I've noticed some stuff wrong with he update but what do you all think of the update and the mac app store being released today? read more here. >>>> >>>> http://goo.gl/frEKu >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Jan 7 00:37:53 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:37:53 +0000 Subject: loving the new mac appstore. Message-ID: Hello all, loving the mac app store now it's brilliant. i've seen a game i like the look of on there is there any way of discovering before taking the plunge and buying it weather it looks to be accesable with v o. thanks very much Ian McNamara From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 01:14:50 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 01:14:50 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line Message-ID: Hello everyone, I am trying to empty the trash from the command line, as doing it via Finder takes forever. However, when I navigate to my .Trash folder in my home folder, it does not seem to work. I am using rm -rf * once inside the folder. I have also tried this with sudo. Am I trying to empty the wrong folder? Thanks for any help Take care James From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 01:34:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:34:53 -0800 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The trash is I think a system file not a folder so trying to empty it would I think be impossibil. I'll give it a better look later on tonight though. OH and emptying the trash via finder is not that slow for me only when I do it securily but it shreads that data. On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:14 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am trying to empty the trash from the command line, as doing it via Finder takes forever. However, when I navigate to my .Trash folder in my home folder, it does not seem to work. I am using rm -rf * once inside the folder. I have also tried this with sudo. Am I trying to empty the wrong folder? > > Thanks for any help > > Take care > James > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 01:54:42 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:54:42 -0800 Subject: loving the new mac appstore. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nope. no demos. See an article I hope I posted a few hours ago on the matter. It talked about prices and such. Take care. On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hello all, loving the mac app store now it's brilliant. i've seen a game i like the look of on there is there any way of discovering before taking the plunge and buying it weather it looks to be accesable with v o. > > thanks very much > > Ian McNamara From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 03:15:46 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:15:46 -0500 Subject: A cool app from mac app store Message-ID: <33EC7DF3-C858-47AF-A2F5-2DE9B21D6D96@gmail.com> Hi, I found a cool app from the mac app store, several actually. The first one's called dub plate, it lets you record from any audio source directly to a CD. Also, there's a cool Twitter app called Tweetings, which is also accessible. Lastly, there is a speak it app for the mac, the same one as for the Iphone and Ipod. HTH, Courtney From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 03:45:21 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 03:45:21 +0000 Subject: App Store question In-Reply-To: <76658893-0D3C-4995-8418-6A90FB340232@gmail.com> References: <1F324FBE-C134-49E2-9235-717A3D96E8C6@hopewell.org.uk> <76658893-0D3C-4995-8418-6A90FB340232@gmail.com> Message-ID: The app store is only applicable for apps you buy from there. Apps you already have don't get included. That's my understanding. Gordon On 6 Jan 2011, at 20:23, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello! > > I have several apps. When I go to the button containing either the price or the "free" label, it will be dimmed and grayed out. At least, that is the case with Transmit so this should be the case with apps you already have. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello All, >> I see that MAC OS 10.6.6 is now available and includes the new app store. >> >> One nice feature of the app store is the ability to easily check for updates for all apps purchased from the app store and to then do the updates just like on the iPhone. >> >> Does anyone know what the situation is if the app store contains an app (e.g. panic transmit) which I purchased before there was an app store. Is there any way to cross check all installed apps with the apps in the app store and to have the app store recognise that you already own these apps? >> >> Paul Hopewell >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 03:47:21 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 03:47:21 +0000 Subject: App Store question In-Reply-To: References: <1F324FBE-C134-49E2-9235-717A3D96E8C6@hopewell.org.uk> <76658893-0D3C-4995-8418-6A90FB340232@gmail.com> Message-ID: <16599ECB-A2D7-43D6-9C42-EE50F8EB073B@mac-access.net> Douglas The message came through here fine. I suspect your mailer, Outlook I think, is set not to handle digitally signed messages. This list does not handle attachments by the way. On 6 Jan 2011, at 20:47, douglas wrote: > hey bud, can you send messages as a message instaid of an attachment, is much safer for all of us.. From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 03:49:27 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 03:49:27 +0000 Subject: iTunes - annoying bug ? In-Reply-To: <49AE950C-1792-4240-B958-8C4CB3C91541@netspace.net.au> References: <331D64DE-1A81-469B-AEB7-8C75C76085C6@blueyonder.co.uk> <692D02F8-CE83-470F-BA9F-BA8D7A9E3650@blueyonder.co.uk> <49AE950C-1792-4240-B958-8C4CB3C91541@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <397FE9E6-8FD4-4D2F-8CF8-DDC441A0346D@mac-access.net> I think this is a VoiceOver issue, not an iTunes issue. Shame you've removed it, I was about to suggest a work-around. Gordon On 6 Jan 2011, at 21:47, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > No, firstly I added the files to the library from my storage drive which is connected through my wireless network, nd that was very slow. That just caused itunes to become completely unresponsive. Then I decided to use a second backup drive, and connect that directly to the machine. That was a lot better, but still kept being busy. I've uninstalled itunes, and everything! From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 03:53:31 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 03:53:31 +0000 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah To be utterly honest, I have my worries regarding the app store. I believe, and always have, that too much centralisation like this is not good for the consumer. I much prefer the old way, where you try it, you buy it direct from the author. I hate to say it but this seems to me too much like Apple's annoying control freak habit. On 6 Jan 2011, at 22:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I've noticed some stuff wrong with he update but what do you all think of the update and the mac app store being released today? read more here. From helianthe at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 05:11:39 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 06:11:39 +0100 Subject: any accessible news reader for the mac? In-Reply-To: <6E807BDF-CEB4-4A1D-97F6-CBBD4BA522F2@softcon.com> References: <4D23202A.5020708@mac-access.net> <6E807BDF-CEB4-4A1D-97F6-CBBD4BA522F2@softcon.com> Message-ID: Thank you very much Travis for the info. Yes actually I meant usenet news group reader. Thanks for taking the time to reply to this post, really appreciate it. Managed to get hold of the app mentioned in your email and will give it a go. Take care, Lyn & Twinny On Jan 5, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > The answer is yes, but the specific answer depends on whether you're talking about rss readers (what most folks these days call news reading) or wheher you're talking about usenet groups (what everyone used to call news readers). > If you're talking about usenet, chmox is the only one I've found that does the job. It's not 100 percent accessible, but it works well enough to get the job done. You'll unfortunately need to perform a google search, or email me offlist to send you the app file, as I downloaded it several years ago, and have no idea where I got it. > On the other hand, if you're talking about rss feeds, then yes, you've got safari (not my choice) mail (better, but still not what I like) several web/standalone options (I've tried several and didn't really like any of them) and then there's the one I use called (you guessed it) Softcon News Reader located at: > http://www.softcon.com/mac/ > It will read all rss feeds I've tossed at it, including one I maintain for our local school districts gifted program which is generated via php scripts, so it's pretty robust. > It keeps your feeds in one table, the articles in each feed in anoher table, and then an html area for the actual article (or at least the summary of such) Only thing is, it won't download files for you (that's not it's job, it's a reader not a file grabber) but if you want to download a file, simple hold down the alt key when pressing enter on a download link, and safari will be launched to download the file for you. > Hope this helps. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ********** Email: helianthe at mac-access.net Email & MSn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com Skype: keanemaniac klango: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 (Please say who you are and where you got my info if asking to share details, thank you) From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 05:36:10 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 05:36:10 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54BDF56E-E28E-4E86-B39C-1C474AFBC4BB@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah, Thanks for the response. I'm pretty certain though that the Trash is a system/hidden folder - not a file. Take care James On 7 Jan 2011, at 01:34, Sarah Alawami wrote: > The trash is I think a system file not a folder so trying to empty it would I think be impossibil. I'll give it a better look later on tonight though. > > OH and emptying the trash via finder is not that slow for me only when I do it securily but it shreads that data. > On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:14 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I am trying to empty the trash from the command line, as doing it via Finder takes forever. However, when I navigate to my .Trash folder in my home folder, it does not seem to work. I am using rm -rf * once inside the folder. I have also tried this with sudo. Am I trying to empty the wrong folder? >> >> Thanks for any help >> >> Take care >> James >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au Fri Jan 7 06:10:21 2011 From: vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au (Vaughn Bennison) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:10:21 +1000 Subject: iTunes - annoying bug ? In-Reply-To: <397FE9E6-8FD4-4D2F-8CF8-DDC441A0346D@mac-access.net> References: <331D64DE-1A81-469B-AEB7-8C75C76085C6@blueyonder.co.uk> <692D02F8-CE83-470F-BA9F-BA8D7A9E3650@blueyonder.co.uk> <49AE950C-1792-4240-B958-8C4CB3C91541@netspace.net.au> <397FE9E6-8FD4-4D2F-8CF8-DDC441A0346D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: It now seems to be working OK now! I don't know why. Vaughn. On 07/01/2011, at 1:49 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > I think this is a VoiceOver issue, not an iTunes issue. Shame you've removed it, I was about to suggest a work-around. > > Gordon > > On 6 Jan 2011, at 21:47, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > >> No, firstly I added the files to the library from my storage drive which is connected through my wireless network, nd that was very slow. That just caused itunes to become completely unresponsive. Then I decided to use a second backup drive, and connect that directly to the machine. That was a lot better, but still kept being busy. I've uninstalled itunes, and everything! > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 06:24:37 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 06:24:37 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: <54BDF56E-E28E-4E86-B39C-1C474AFBC4BB@mac-access.net> References: <54BDF56E-E28E-4E86-B39C-1C474AFBC4BB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5015DC44-B0DC-4AE4-A40A-99E277572877@mac-access.net> Hello James Yes, the trash is a folder not a file. On 7 Jan 2011, at 05:36, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Thanks for the response. I'm pretty certain though that the Trash is a system/hidden folder - not a file. > > Take care > James > On 7 Jan 2011, at 01:34, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> The trash is I think a system file not a folder so trying to empty it would I think be impossibil. I'll give it a better look later on tonight though. >> >> OH and emptying the trash via finder is not that slow for me only when I do it securily but it shreads that data. >> On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:14 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I am trying to empty the trash from the command line, as doing it via Finder takes forever. However, when I navigate to my .Trash folder in my home folder, it does not seem to work. I am using rm -rf * once inside the folder. I have also tried this with sudo. Am I trying to empty the wrong folder? >>> >>> Thanks for any help >>> >>> Take care >>> James >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 06:25:48 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 06:25:48 +0000 Subject: iTunes - annoying bug ? In-Reply-To: References: <331D64DE-1A81-469B-AEB7-8C75C76085C6@blueyonder.co.uk> <692D02F8-CE83-470F-BA9F-BA8D7A9E3650@blueyonder.co.uk> <49AE950C-1792-4240-B958-8C4CB3C91541@netspace.net.au> <397FE9E6-8FD4-4D2F-8CF8-DDC441A0346D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <70CC87B1-AF15-4BDA-9801-EF0FCBE4BCCE@mac-access.net> That's great. I wish my own physiological problems were as easily solves. :) Gordon On 7 Jan 2011, at 06:10, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > It now seems to be working OK now! I don't know why. From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 07:45:59 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:45:59 -0800 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: <5015DC44-B0DC-4AE4-A40A-99E277572877@mac-access.net> References: <54BDF56E-E28E-4E86-B39C-1C474AFBC4BB@mac-access.net> <5015DC44-B0DC-4AE4-A40A-99E277572877@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Oops. That's what happens when I rely on a memmory that is falling appart. lol! Yeah so is what this poster asking is possibil? can they empty trash from comand line? On Jan 6, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello James > > Yes, the trash is a folder not a file. > > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 05:36, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Thanks for the response. I'm pretty certain though that the Trash is a system/hidden folder - not a file. >> >> Take care >> James >> On 7 Jan 2011, at 01:34, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> The trash is I think a system file not a folder so trying to empty it would I think be impossibil. I'll give it a better look later on tonight though. >>> >>> OH and emptying the trash via finder is not that slow for me only when I do it securily but it shreads that data. >>> On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:14 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> I am trying to empty the trash from the command line, as doing it via Finder takes forever. However, when I navigate to my .Trash folder in my home folder, it does not seem to work. I am using rm -rf * once inside the folder. I have also tried this with sudo. Am I trying to empty the wrong folder? >>>> >>>> Thanks for any help >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> James >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 07:46:41 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:46:41 -0800 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: OH I agree. I like it but at the same thme I hate it. What I want to and what I think I will do is try it from the company first then buy teh app from the app store. S On Jan 6, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Sarah > > To be utterly honest, I have my worries regarding the app store. I believe, and always have, that too much centralisation like this is not good for the consumer. > > I much prefer the old way, where you try it, you buy it direct from the author. > > I hate to say it but this seems to me too much like Apple's annoying control freak habit. > > On 6 Jan 2011, at 22:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I've noticed some stuff wrong with he update but what do you all think of the update and the mac app store being released today? read more here. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 07:49:52 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:49:52 -0800 Subject: REMINDER: An Interview That You Don't Want To Miss -- Speak Directly To The Developer of the Awareness App Message-ID: <9A432D2C-CA6C-49D5-88F1-D6CEAA515A71@gmail.com> I'm not getting involved in this discussion but here you go for those that want to participate in the interview.. Take care all and the message is below. As Posted on the Candle Shore BLOG: PROMO: Paying The Cost Hello Everyone, The Apple App Store is home to thousands of wonderfully useful and creative programs that enhance and enrich the lives of hundreds of thousands of people around the world for as little as 99 cents American. But what if you are blind or low vision and in order to obtain an accessible version of the program, you must pay more than the standard cost? Recently, a company called Essency, released a dazzlingly innovative and useful utility called Awareness, The Headphones App, that in effect allows you to listen to music and the outside world at the same time. Currently, those using VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for the blind and low vision, must pay an additional cost in order to purchase the VoiceOver accessible user interface for the program. 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He who has power over others can't empower himself. She who clings to her work will create nothing that endures." (Lao Tzu) For infinite knowledge, go to: candleshoreblog.com From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 07:56:36 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:56:36 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: References: <54BDF56E-E28E-4E86-B39C-1C474AFBC4BB@mac-access.net> <5015DC44-B0DC-4AE4-A40A-99E277572877@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <956A05F2-05C8-4FAE-80C6-60A4B927C242@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah, Yes, emptying the Trash from the command line is possible, but everything I've tried does not seem to work. Any advice would be much appreciated Thanks Take care James On 7 Jan 2011, at 07:45, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Oops. That's what happens when I rely on a memmory that is falling appart. lol! Yeah so is what this poster asking is possibil? can they empty trash from comand line? > On Jan 6, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hello James >> >> Yes, the trash is a folder not a file. >> >> >> On 7 Jan 2011, at 05:36, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> Thanks for the response. I'm pretty certain though that the Trash is a system/hidden folder - not a file. >>> >>> Take care >>> James >>> On 7 Jan 2011, at 01:34, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> The trash is I think a system file not a folder so trying to empty it would I think be impossibil. I'll give it a better look later on tonight though. >>>> >>>> OH and emptying the trash via finder is not that slow for me only when I do it securily but it shreads that data. >>>> On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:14 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I am trying to empty the trash from the command line, as doing it via Finder takes forever. However, when I navigate to my .Trash folder in my home folder, it does not seem to work. I am using rm -rf * once inside the folder. I have also tried this with sudo. Am I trying to empty the wrong folder? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any help >>>>> >>>>> Take care >>>>> James >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From bryansmart at bryansmart.com Fri Jan 7 08:14:49 2011 From: bryansmart at bryansmart.com (Bryan Smart) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 03:14:49 -0500 Subject: Announcing the VoxKeys project Message-ID: If you use a Mac with the built-in VoiceOver screen reader, VoxKeys is intended to help you work faster, and access more, than would be possible with only VoiceOver. VoxKeys helps you work faster by adding new shortcuts to applications that will make it possible to quickly access program functions that would have previously required many keystrokes. Other new shortcuts make it possible for you to quickly hear important on-screen information without the need for you to move the VoiceOver cursor. Beyond speeding up tasks that you could normally accomplish with VoiceOver, VoxKeys opens up functions in applications that were previously inaccessible. VoxKeys can directly click and manipulate user interface elements on the screen that are invisible to VoiceOver. VoxKeys can also use Applescript to directly control applications, bypassing their user interfaces altogether, in many cases. These new capabilities are available through new shortcuts that VoxKeys adds to your applications. Currently, VoxKeys provides quick access to status announcements such as date, time, and power, adds new iTunes shortcuts for speaking track information and for quickly accessing controls that normally lack shortcuts, adds many Skype keyboard shortcuts including globally available answer/hang-up shortcuts, and provides shortcuts for clicking the mouse in ways that VoiceOver is unable. Perhaps its most interesting capability at the moment, though, is support for web apps. Through a combination of directly accessing the object model of a web page, and directly manipulating the mouse, VoxKeys can provide specialized access for web sites when accessed from Safari. Currently, the Netflix and Rhapsody web players are supported. With VoxKeys, you can, in these previously inaccessible players, play/pause recordings, navigate between tracks. Mute/unmute audio, control repeat and shuffle modes, switch to full screen playback, and more. The next release of VoxKeys (coming in just a week or two) will include shortcuts for Pro Tools and GarageBand to quickly jump to parts of the user interface. Other features in the works include the ability to quickly repeat the last phrase spoken by VoiceOver through ESpeak in a specific language (good if your native language isn't supported by a Mac TTS), shortcuts for quickly switching between different sets of VoiceOver settings, automatic notification when you type a misspelled word, shortcuts to help with VMware, and others. VoxKeys is free. For additional information and to download, go here: http://blog.bryansmart.com/voxkeys-project/ Bryan From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 08:23:30 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:23:30 +0000 Subject: Announcing the VoxKeys project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22352299-354B-48BA-9760-02E87CFBD1F8@mac-access.net> Hi Bryan, This sounds very interesting, I'm going to take a look now. Thank you very much \Take care James On 7 Jan 2011, at 08:14, Bryan Smart wrote: > > If you use a Mac with the built-in VoiceOver screen reader, VoxKeys is intended to help you work faster, and access more, than would be possible with only VoiceOver. > > VoxKeys helps you work faster by adding new shortcuts to applications that will make it possible to quickly access program functions that would have previously required many keystrokes. Other new shortcuts make it possible for you to quickly hear important on-screen information without the need for you to move the VoiceOver cursor. > > Beyond speeding up tasks that you could normally accomplish with VoiceOver, VoxKeys opens up functions in applications that were previously inaccessible. VoxKeys can directly click and manipulate user interface elements on the screen that are invisible to VoiceOver. VoxKeys can also use Applescript to directly control applications, bypassing their user interfaces altogether, in many cases. These new capabilities are available through new shortcuts that VoxKeys adds to your applications. > > Currently, VoxKeys provides quick access to status announcements such as date, time, and power, adds new iTunes shortcuts for speaking track information and for quickly accessing controls that normally lack shortcuts, adds many Skype keyboard shortcuts including globally available answer/hang-up shortcuts, and provides shortcuts for clicking the mouse in ways that VoiceOver is unable. > > Perhaps its most interesting capability at the moment, though, is support for web apps. Through a combination of directly accessing the object model of a web page, and directly manipulating the mouse, VoxKeys can provide specialized access for web sites when accessed from Safari. Currently, the Netflix and Rhapsody web players are supported. With VoxKeys, you can, in these previously inaccessible players, play/pause recordings, navigate between tracks. Mute/unmute audio, control repeat and shuffle modes, switch to full screen playback, and more. > > The next release of VoxKeys (coming in just a week or two) will include shortcuts for Pro Tools and GarageBand to quickly jump to parts of the user interface. Other features in the works include the ability to quickly repeat the last phrase spoken by VoiceOver through ESpeak in a specific language (good if your native language isn't supported by a Mac TTS), shortcuts for quickly switching between different sets of VoiceOver settings, automatic notification when you type a misspelled word, shortcuts to help with VMware, and others. > > VoxKeys is free. > > For additional information and to download, go here: > > http://blog.bryansmart.com/voxkeys-project/ > > Bryan > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Jan 7 08:56:59 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:56:59 +0000 Subject: Announcing the VoxKeys project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5CEF9C4B-7075-4B9A-9690-864449B38708@googlemail.com> yep, i am going to take a look at this two sounds very interesting. Ian McNamara From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 12:43:00 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:43:00 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: References: <54BDF56E-E28E-4E86-B39C-1C474AFBC4BB@mac-access.net> <5015DC44-B0DC-4AE4-A40A-99E277572877@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <298042D1-8879-40CB-80F1-2B68FBC6D3D5@mac-access.net> I think the problem could be that there are system files in the .trashes folder which, I think, needs to be referenced off the root, (/) rather than the user's home folder, (~/). But I could be wrong about that. Gordon From vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au Fri Jan 7 12:54:54 2011 From: vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au (Vaughn Bennison) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:54:54 +1000 Subject: iTunes - annoying bug ? In-Reply-To: <70CC87B1-AF15-4BDA-9801-EF0FCBE4BCCE@mac-access.net> References: <331D64DE-1A81-469B-AEB7-8C75C76085C6@blueyonder.co.uk> <692D02F8-CE83-470F-BA9F-BA8D7A9E3650@blueyonder.co.uk> <49AE950C-1792-4240-B958-8C4CB3C91541@netspace.net.au> <397FE9E6-8FD4-4D2F-8CF8-DDC441A0346D@mac-access.net> <70CC87B1-AF15-4BDA-9801-EF0FCBE4BCCE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <23B8E61B-D488-4412-B8E7-9E0ECEC31C43@netspace.net.au> Oh yes! Many times I've wished health problems could be fixed by clicking the fingers!!!!!! Vaughn. On 07/01/2011, at 4:25 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > That's great. I wish my own physiological problems were as easily solves. :) > > Gordon > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 06:10, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > >> It now seems to be working OK now! I don't know why. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 12:57:29 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:57:29 +0000 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah I don't mind the principle of the app store, don't get me wrong. I just hope that Apple does not prevent you from buying the applications you like directly from the developers if you prefer. I also don't like the concept of no shareware. Shareware, trialware, call it what you will;, has worked for many many years. Long since before Apple came on to the scene in a big way. Now, Apple is moving the goal posts, as we would say. Apple is trying to take control over not only the online music market, (and I grant you they filled a whole left buy people like Napster who didn't do the job properly). But the software market is very different and Apple doesn't appear to realise that. If, for instance, a new application comes out that does OCR, I would prefer to try it before I buy it, to know whether it's accessible, whether it works with my scanner, that sort of thing. In the case of music, you often know before you buy it whether or not you like it. And you can listen to a short preview of it on iTunes itself. Obviously it will become clear in the days and weeks ahead exactly how the app store works. But from what you yourself told us last night, "no demos", that isn't a good move. I also wonder what happens to those developers who don't opt to enter the app store. Do they become like outcasts? I sincerely hope that the option to buy from the developer does not become obsolete. Gordon On 7 Jan 2011, at 07:46, Sarah Alawami wrote: > OH I agree. I like it but at the same thme I hate it. What I want to and what I think I will do is try it from the company first then buy teh app from the app store. From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 12:59:17 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:59:17 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: <298042D1-8879-40CB-80F1-2B68FBC6D3D5@mac-access.net> References: <54BDF56E-E28E-4E86-B39C-1C474AFBC4BB@mac-access.net> <5015DC44-B0DC-4AE4-A40A-99E277572877@mac-access.net> <298042D1-8879-40CB-80F1-2B68FBC6D3D5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7BA6E1CE-1161-4469-BF56-620D9C16D368@mac-access.net> Ah, you could be right Gordon, I wonder if each user's Trash folder is symbolically linked to system Trash. Hmm worth looking into. Thanks for the idea Take care James On 7 Jan 2011, at 12:43, Gordon Smith wrote: > I think the problem could be that there are system files in the .trashes folder which, I think, needs to be referenced off the root, (/) rather than the user's home folder, (~/). But I could be wrong about that. > > Gordon > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Jan 7 13:01:42 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:01:42 +0000 Subject: Searching for mail in the Time Machine Message-ID: <8F6E5A2A-97D9-41EE-95C4-95F8CCE1905C@hopewell.org.uk> Hello All, I need to retrieve an Apple mail item which I have deleted from my iMac but which is saved somewhere on some date in my Time Machine. Is there any way to search mail saved on the Time Machine using the contents of the mail item as a search string? I even know the date (within a week) on which I deleted the required mail item. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 13:07:25 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:07:25 +0000 Subject: Announcing the VoxKeys project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <481AAFDA-9EF5-4EBF-8E55-3A9EF87C8544@mac-access.net> Wow! This really is a great concept. I shall try this out. Gordon From billd at insightbb.com Fri Jan 7 12:57:52 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:57:52 -0500 Subject: for discussion Message-ID: First of all, Thank you for the informat ion on getting a mike for my I.mac. Second I have been hearing about Apple bringing out a new operating system called Lion. I am now running Snow leopard. I got this computer at a good price but it is an old machine. I was told that it probably won't go past 2 gigs of memory. so what i was wondering how many people might not up grade to the latest and greatest. systems. i know from running windows. there are those who say if it still works for me I won't change. for example, my Mother-in-law is still running XP on her computer and is quite happy with it. it does what she wants it to do. I was wondering if there are Mac users who are like that? just a thought for discussion. Have a good and a wonderful week-end. Bill Deatherage From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 14:14:36 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:14:36 +0000 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bill First, please don't make the mistake of comparing what happens in the Windows world with that of Apple. They are two very different concepts. Secondly, your machine will run Lion when it's released, probably later this year. Lion is Apple's code name for Mac OSX 10.7, just as Snow Leopard is the code name for 10.6, Leopard for 10.5, Tiger for 10.4. Previously, Apple used other synonyms such as Jaguar, Panther and, I believe, there were others before those. So I hope that clears things up a little for you. Gordon On 7 Jan 2011, at 12:57, William Deatherage wrote: > First of all, Thank you for the informat ion on getting a mike for my I.mac. Second I have been hearing about Apple bringing out a new operating system called Lion. I am now running Snow leopard. I got this computer at a good price but it is an old machine. I was told that it probably won't go past 2 gigs of memory. so what i was wondering how many people might not up grade to the latest and greatest. systems. i know from running windows. there are those who say if it still works for me I won't change. for example, my Mother-in-law is still running XP on her computer and is quite happy with it. it does what she wants it to do. I was wondering if there are Mac users who are like that? > just a thought for discussion. > Have a good and a wonderful week-end. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From wa9dro at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 14:38:33 2011 From: wa9dro at gmail.com (Keith Reedy) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:38:33 -0500 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: Gordon and all, You can still get betas, or demos from the creator's website if they are available, just none of these on the mac app store. Keith Reedy Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 On Jan 7, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Sarah > > I don't mind the principle of the app store, don't get me wrong. I just hope that Apple does not prevent you from buying the applications you like directly from the developers if you prefer. > > I also don't like the concept of no shareware. Shareware, trialware, call it what you will;, has worked for many many years. Long since before Apple came on to the scene in a big way. Now, Apple is moving the goal posts, as we would say. Apple is trying to take control over not only the online music market, (and I grant you they filled a whole left buy people like Napster who didn't do the job properly). But the software market is very different and Apple doesn't appear to realise that. If, for instance, a new application comes out that does OCR, I would prefer to try it before I buy it, to know whether it's accessible, whether it works with my scanner, that sort of thing. > > In the case of music, you often know before you buy it whether or not you like it. And you can listen to a short preview of it on iTunes itself. > > Obviously it will become clear in the days and weeks ahead exactly how the app store works. But from what you yourself told us last night, "no demos", that isn't a good move. > > I also wonder what happens to those developers who don't opt to enter the app store. Do they become like outcasts? I sincerely hope that the option to buy from the developer does not become obsolete. > > Gordon > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 07:46, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> OH I agree. I like it but at the same thme I hate it. What I want to and what I think I will do is try it from the company first then buy teh app from the app store. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From wa9dro at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 14:42:15 2011 From: wa9dro at gmail.com (Keith Reedy) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:42:15 -0500 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: BTW, you can still buy from the developer, I did that very thing yesterday. I sell my music through the iTunes store, but, people can buy from me directly and the same rules apply. Keith Reedy Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 On Jan 7, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Sarah > > I don't mind the principle of the app store, don't get me wrong. I just hope that Apple does not prevent you from buying the applications you like directly from the developers if you prefer. > > I also don't like the concept of no shareware. Shareware, trialware, call it what you will;, has worked for many many years. Long since before Apple came on to the scene in a big way. Now, Apple is moving the goal posts, as we would say. Apple is trying to take control over not only the online music market, (and I grant you they filled a whole left buy people like Napster who didn't do the job properly). But the software market is very different and Apple doesn't appear to realise that. If, for instance, a new application comes out that does OCR, I would prefer to try it before I buy it, to know whether it's accessible, whether it works with my scanner, that sort of thing. > > In the case of music, you often know before you buy it whether or not you like it. And you can listen to a short preview of it on iTunes itself. > > Obviously it will become clear in the days and weeks ahead exactly how the app store works. But from what you yourself told us last night, "no demos", that isn't a good move. > > I also wonder what happens to those developers who don't opt to enter the app store. Do they become like outcasts? I sincerely hope that the option to buy from the developer does not become obsolete. > > Gordon > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 07:46, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> OH I agree. I like it but at the same thme I hate it. What I want to and what I think I will do is try it from the company first then buy teh app from the app store. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Fri Jan 7 14:48:50 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:48:50 +0000 Subject: Announcing the VoxKeys project In-Reply-To: <5CEF9C4B-7075-4B9A-9690-864449B38708@googlemail.com> References: <5CEF9C4B-7075-4B9A-9690-864449B38708@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <0B56FB0E-C865-4C19-8380-EF2931BBCA7B@googlemail.com> HI Bryan, I agree that it sounds really interesting. I'm going to take a look at this project and download VoxKeys. Lewis. On 7 Jan 2011, at 08:56, Ian McNamara wrote: > yep, i am going to take a look at this two sounds very interesting. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Fri Jan 7 14:55:55 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:55:55 +0000 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: HI Gordon. That is my very worry too, whether Apple will stop you from trying, sampling, the apps etc before buying them. That way, you know what you are buying. I'm not going to buy anything from the App Store until I know that there is an option to either use the developer's website, try the software or get a shareware version. That way, I know I am safe. Best regards. Lewis. On 7 Jan 2011, at 12:57, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Sarah > > I don't mind the principle of the app store, don't get me wrong. I just hope that Apple does not prevent you from buying the applications you like directly from the developers if you prefer. > > I also don't like the concept of no shareware. Shareware, trialware, call it what you will;, has worked for many many years. Long since before Apple came on to the scene in a big way. Now, Apple is moving the goal posts, as we would say. Apple is trying to take control over not only the online music market, (and I grant you they filled a whole left buy people like Napster who didn't do the job properly). But the software market is very different and Apple doesn't appear to realise that. If, for instance, a new application comes out that does OCR, I would prefer to try it before I buy it, to know whether it's accessible, whether it works with my scanner, that sort of thing. > > In the case of music, you often know before you buy it whether or not you like it. And you can listen to a short preview of it on iTunes itself. > > Obviously it will become clear in the days and weeks ahead exactly how the app store works. But from what you yourself told us last night, "no demos", that isn't a good move. > > I also wonder what happens to those developers who don't opt to enter the app store. Do they become like outcasts? I sincerely hope that the option to buy from the developer does not become obsolete. > > Gordon > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 07:46, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> OH I agree. I like it but at the same thme I hate it. What I want to and what I think I will do is try it from the company first then buy teh app from the app store. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jan 7 15:05:39 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:05:39 -0600 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40B84B6F-1869-479E-9F3D-A7AB30801C9C@softcon.com> On your root drive (what's referred to as /) in the file system you'll find a folder called .trashes (note the leading period in the filename, this is what makes it invisible to finder) Inside this .trashes folder you'll find folders like 501 502 503 and so on. Each of these folders are the folder numbers associated with user records in the password file. Inside these folders (in my case it's 502) you'll find the actual trashed items you've deleted from finder. If there are multiple users on a system, then you'll have multiple folders in the .trashes folder, and each one will hold the deleted files from finder. You'll also note that each volume mounted on your system has a similar .trashes folder, and only files from that particular file system wind up in the trash for that volume. It's all kind of complicated, but does make a certain kind of sense when you think about it. But, each person has a .trash folder in their home folder that is linked to their /.trashes/uid folder as well, so that's kind of a shortcut for finding the files you've removed on the current volume. Of course, if you're like me, and have several volumes, you'll need to check each one, because only the boot partition is linked into your home folder. You'll need to enter each .trashes folder, use suodo or something similar to run the rm -R * command to remove all deleted files. Hope this helps. From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 15:36:01 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:36:01 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: <40B84B6F-1869-479E-9F3D-A7AB30801C9C@softcon.com> References: <40B84B6F-1869-479E-9F3D-A7AB30801C9C@softcon.com> Message-ID: <51017A15-3815-4CDD-9823-D2ED383347B6@mac-access.net> Hi Travis Yes it does thanks. You've also confirmed my suspicion that the .Trash folder in the home folder is linked, but I am unable to delete files from this folder, so I'll try from the root level. Thanks again Take care James On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:05, Travis Siegel wrote: > On your root drive (what's referred to as /) in the file system you'll find a folder called .trashes (note the leading period in the filename, this is what makes it invisible to finder) > Inside this .trashes folder you'll find folders like 501 502 503 and so on. Each of these folders are the folder numbers associated with user records in the password file. > Inside these folders (in my case it's 502) you'll find the actual trashed items you've deleted from finder. > If there are multiple users on a system, then you'll have multiple folders in the .trashes folder, and each one will hold the deleted files from finder. > You'll also note that each volume mounted on your system has a similar .trashes folder, and only files from that particular file system wind up in the trash for that volume. > It's all kind of complicated, but does make a certain kind of sense when you think about it. > But, each person has a .trash folder in their home folder that is linked to their /.trashes/uid folder as well, so that's kind of a shortcut for finding the files you've removed on the current volume. Of course, if you're like me, and have several volumes, you'll need to check each one, because only the boot partition is linked into your home folder. > You'll need to enter each .trashes folder, use suodo or something similar to run the rm -R * command to remove all deleted files. > Hope this helps. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 15:40:36 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:40:36 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: <51017A15-3815-4CDD-9823-D2ED383347B6@mac-access.net> References: <40B84B6F-1869-479E-9F3D-A7AB30801C9C@softcon.com> <51017A15-3815-4CDD-9823-D2ED383347B6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Travis, Despite finding the correct folder, I am unable to find the 501 etc folders. Apparently, they do not exist. I am certain that /bin is in my PATH, as I doubt my machine would be running if it were not. Do you think that the the system is somehow corrupted? Thanks Take care James On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:36, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Travis > > Yes it does thanks. You've also confirmed my suspicion that the .Trash folder in the home folder is linked, but I am unable to delete files from this folder, so I'll try from the root level. > > Thanks again > Take care > James > On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:05, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> On your root drive (what's referred to as /) in the file system you'll find a folder called .trashes (note the leading period in the filename, this is what makes it invisible to finder) >> Inside this .trashes folder you'll find folders like 501 502 503 and so on. Each of these folders are the folder numbers associated with user records in the password file. >> Inside these folders (in my case it's 502) you'll find the actual trashed items you've deleted from finder. >> If there are multiple users on a system, then you'll have multiple folders in the .trashes folder, and each one will hold the deleted files from finder. >> You'll also note that each volume mounted on your system has a similar .trashes folder, and only files from that particular file system wind up in the trash for that volume. >> It's all kind of complicated, but does make a certain kind of sense when you think about it. >> But, each person has a .trash folder in their home folder that is linked to their /.trashes/uid folder as well, so that's kind of a shortcut for finding the files you've removed on the current volume. Of course, if you're like me, and have several volumes, you'll need to check each one, because only the boot partition is linked into your home folder. >> You'll need to enter each .trashes folder, use suodo or something similar to run the rm -R * command to remove all deleted files. >> Hope this helps. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 15:48:44 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:48:44 +0000 Subject: Using Single User Mode Message-ID: <0212AF1E-ADFA-4504-8336-FE5AA74917C6@mac-access.net> Hello everyone, Is it possible to use SpeakUp, YASR or another command line Screen Reader in Single User Mode please, and if so how would I go about getting it for Mac if it is not averrable on MacPorts? Thanks Take care James From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 16:01:22 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:01:22 +0000 Subject: Why would someone choose to use Smart Mailboxes rather than message rules or vice versa? Message-ID: Hello everyone, I understand the difference between these two sorting methods, and I'll outline it here, in case some folks may not be. With Smart Mailboxes, you can define some criteria, and then when a message appears in the "Inbox", the Smart Mailbox creates an alias (what W calls a shortcut) to the message. Now if you move the message from the "Inbox" to some other folder, the message will still exist in the Smart Mailbox, but the alias points to the original message. With Message rules, Mail will move messages from the "Inbox" based on defined criteria. But what I'm unclear on is what the benefits are of each over the other and why someone would use one over the other. Thanks for any help Take care James From opensesame at me.com Fri Jan 7 16:04:47 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:04:47 -0500 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bill, You said you have an "old machine" and that you were told it would "probably not go past 2 gigs of memory." If it would help put your mind at ease, you could post your Mac's current specs and I'm sure either myself or another person on this list could help you determine if your Mac can be upgraded and to what extent. There are only a few bits of information we would need to know, and you can find the information in the System Profiler. The System Profiler application can be found in Applications / Utilities. The System Profiler can be easily navigated using standard VO commands. You want to interact with the "Contents table" and select "Hardware." Then you can stop interacting with the COntents table, VO right twice, and you will be on the "Hardware Overview" section. Here you can arrow down and you will hear a list of hardware information for your system. We don't need to know everything in that list, just the following 5 items: 1. Model Name (for example, imac) 2. Model Identifier (for example, imac7,1) 3. Processor Name (for example, Intel Core 2 Duo) 4. Processor Speed (For example, 2.00 GHz) 5. Memory (for example, 2 GB) Cheers, Bryan On Jan 7, 2011, at 7:57 AM, William Deatherage wrote: > price but it is an old machine. I was told that it probably won't go past 2 gigs of memory. so what i was wondering how many people might not up grade to the latest and greatest. systems. i know from running windows. there are From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 16:28:28 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:28:28 +0000 Subject: Security oversights in new Mac App Store allow for paid applicationsto be pirated Message-ID: This is a very interesting read. If it is true, how can Apple have made such a mistake? As the article says at the end, it is possible that they have also left the platform open to attacks from worms etc. Enjoy! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/07/app_store_receipt_fail/ Take care James From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 17:09:23 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:09:23 +0000 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Keith That was my only concern, so I'm pleased to hear it. But all the same I don't think Apple's approach to this was ideal. On 7 Jan 2011, at 14:38, Keith Reedy wrote: > Gordon and all, > > You can still get betas, or demos from the creator's website if they are available, just none of these on the mac app store. From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 17:10:34 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:10:34 +0000 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Lewis This has now been confirmed. On 7 Jan 2011, at 14:55, Lewis Crack wrote: > HI Gordon. > > That is my very worry too, whether Apple will stop you from trying, sampling, the apps etc before buying them. That way, you know what you are buying. > I'm not going to buy anything from the App Store until I know that there is an option to either use the developer's website, try the software or get a shareware version. > That way, I know I am safe. From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 17:11:55 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:11:55 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: References: <40B84B6F-1869-479E-9F3D-A7AB30801C9C@softcon.com> <51017A15-3815-4CDD-9823-D2ED383347B6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <82BABD98-63D2-4BE4-B781-BF6ACD0A0D66@mac-access.net> What Travis is describing is the Leopard and earlier way of doing itl I think this has changed. Gordon On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:40, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Travis, > > Despite finding the correct folder, I am unable to find the 501 etc folders. Apparently, they do not exist. I am certain that /bin is in my PATH, as I doubt my machine would be running if it were not. > > Do you think that the the system is somehow corrupted? > > Thanks > Take care > James > On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:36, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Travis >> >> Yes it does thanks. You've also confirmed my suspicion that the .Trash folder in the home folder is linked, but I am unable to delete files from this folder, so I'll try from the root level. >> >> Thanks again >> Take care >> James >> On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:05, Travis Siegel wrote: >> >>> On your root drive (what's referred to as /) in the file system you'll find a folder called .trashes (note the leading period in the filename, this is what makes it invisible to finder) >>> Inside this .trashes folder you'll find folders like 501 502 503 and so on. Each of these folders are the folder numbers associated with user records in the password file. >>> Inside these folders (in my case it's 502) you'll find the actual trashed items you've deleted from finder. >>> If there are multiple users on a system, then you'll have multiple folders in the .trashes folder, and each one will hold the deleted files from finder. >>> You'll also note that each volume mounted on your system has a similar .trashes folder, and only files from that particular file system wind up in the trash for that volume. >>> It's all kind of complicated, but does make a certain kind of sense when you think about it. >>> But, each person has a .trash folder in their home folder that is linked to their /.trashes/uid folder as well, so that's kind of a shortcut for finding the files you've removed on the current volume. Of course, if you're like me, and have several volumes, you'll need to check each one, because only the boot partition is linked into your home folder. >>> You'll need to enter each .trashes folder, use suodo or something similar to run the rm -R * command to remove all deleted files. >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 17:13:21 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:13:21 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: <82BABD98-63D2-4BE4-B781-BF6ACD0A0D66@mac-access.net> References: <40B84B6F-1869-479E-9F3D-A7AB30801C9C@softcon.com> <51017A15-3815-4CDD-9823-D2ED383347B6@mac-access.net> <82BABD98-63D2-4BE4-B781-BF6ACD0A0D66@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5D4AF8F3-DFF3-4EEA-9512-E75EA29BAD2D@mac-access.net> Ah right thanks Gordon. I'll refine my search for SL only. On 7 Jan 2011, at 17:11, Gordon Smith wrote: > What Travis is describing is the Leopard and earlier way of doing itl I think this has changed. > > Gordon > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:40, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Travis, >> >> Despite finding the correct folder, I am unable to find the 501 etc folders. Apparently, they do not exist. I am certain that /bin is in my PATH, as I doubt my machine would be running if it were not. >> >> Do you think that the the system is somehow corrupted? >> >> Thanks >> Take care >> James >> On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:36, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Travis >>> >>> Yes it does thanks. You've also confirmed my suspicion that the .Trash folder in the home folder is linked, but I am unable to delete files from this folder, so I'll try from the root level. >>> >>> Thanks again >>> Take care >>> James >>> On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:05, Travis Siegel wrote: >>> >>>> On your root drive (what's referred to as /) in the file system you'll find a folder called .trashes (note the leading period in the filename, this is what makes it invisible to finder) >>>> Inside this .trashes folder you'll find folders like 501 502 503 and so on. Each of these folders are the folder numbers associated with user records in the password file. >>>> Inside these folders (in my case it's 502) you'll find the actual trashed items you've deleted from finder. >>>> If there are multiple users on a system, then you'll have multiple folders in the .trashes folder, and each one will hold the deleted files from finder. >>>> You'll also note that each volume mounted on your system has a similar .trashes folder, and only files from that particular file system wind up in the trash for that volume. >>>> It's all kind of complicated, but does make a certain kind of sense when you think about it. >>>> But, each person has a .trash folder in their home folder that is linked to their /.trashes/uid folder as well, so that's kind of a shortcut for finding the files you've removed on the current volume. Of course, if you're like me, and have several volumes, you'll need to check each one, because only the boot partition is linked into your home folder. >>>> You'll need to enter each .trashes folder, use suodo or something similar to run the rm -R * command to remove all deleted files. >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 17:22:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:22:27 -0800 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh no it will though be an option to look in one place only for apps. I get the feeling free limited versions will though still be available. I think they have in some countries started allowing demos but I could be wrong. I've read so many articles I can't keep track anymore. lol! On Jan 7, 2011, at 4:57 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Sarah > > I don't mind the principle of the app store, don't get me wrong. I just hope that Apple does not prevent you from buying the applications you like directly from the developers if you prefer. > > I also don't like the concept of no shareware. Shareware, trialware, call it what you will;, has worked for many many years. Long since before Apple came on to the scene in a big way. Now, Apple is moving the goal posts, as we would say. Apple is trying to take control over not only the online music market, (and I grant you they filled a whole left buy people like Napster who didn't do the job properly). But the software market is very different and Apple doesn't appear to realise that. If, for instance, a new application comes out that does OCR, I would prefer to try it before I buy it, to know whether it's accessible, whether it works with my scanner, that sort of thing. > > In the case of music, you often know before you buy it whether or not you like it. And you can listen to a short preview of it on iTunes itself. > > Obviously it will become clear in the days and weeks ahead exactly how the app store works. But from what you yourself told us last night, "no demos", that isn't a good move. > > I also wonder what happens to those developers who don't opt to enter the app store. Do they become like outcasts? I sincerely hope that the option to buy from the developer does not become obsolete. > > Gordon > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 07:46, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> OH I agree. I like it but at the same thme I hate it. What I want to and what I think I will do is try it from the company first then buy teh app from the app store. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 17:23:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:23:06 -0800 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ype I'm the same way. my stuff is both on itunes and at cd baby. lol! Take care. S On Jan 7, 2011, at 6:42 AM, Keith Reedy wrote: > BTW, you can still buy from the developer, I did that very thing yesterday. > > I sell my music through the iTunes store, but, people can buy from me directly and the same rules apply. > Keith Reedy > Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! > http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi Sarah >> >> I don't mind the principle of the app store, don't get me wrong. I just hope that Apple does not prevent you from buying the applications you like directly from the developers if you prefer. >> >> I also don't like the concept of no shareware. Shareware, trialware, call it what you will;, has worked for many many years. Long since before Apple came on to the scene in a big way. Now, Apple is moving the goal posts, as we would say. Apple is trying to take control over not only the online music market, (and I grant you they filled a whole left buy people like Napster who didn't do the job properly). But the software market is very different and Apple doesn't appear to realise that. If, for instance, a new application comes out that does OCR, I would prefer to try it before I buy it, to know whether it's accessible, whether it works with my scanner, that sort of thing. >> >> In the case of music, you often know before you buy it whether or not you like it. And you can listen to a short preview of it on iTunes itself. >> >> Obviously it will become clear in the days and weeks ahead exactly how the app store works. But from what you yourself told us last night, "no demos", that isn't a good move. >> >> I also wonder what happens to those developers who don't opt to enter the app store. Do they become like outcasts? I sincerely hope that the option to buy from the developer does not become obsolete. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 7 Jan 2011, at 07:46, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> OH I agree. I like it but at the same thme I hate it. What I want to and what I think I will do is try it from the company first then buy teh app from the app store. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 17:24:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:24:18 -0800 Subject: Security oversights in new Mac App Store allow for paid applicationsto be pirated In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <94B535BA-AD57-4CE5-A53F-4FE34905E6EA@gmail.com> Yep saw the article last night. Well, we'll see what happens. I knew that this would happen but this soon? Oops on apple's part. Take care. S On Jan 7, 2011, at 8:28 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > This is a very interesting read. If it is true, how can Apple have made such a mistake? As the article says at the end, it is possible that they have also left the platform open to attacks from worms etc. > > Enjoy! > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/07/app_store_receipt_fail/ > > Take care > James > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 17:29:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:29:53 -0800 Subject: Announcing the VoxKeys project In-Reply-To: <0B56FB0E-C865-4C19-8380-EF2931BBCA7B@googlemail.com> References: <5CEF9C4B-7075-4B9A-9690-864449B38708@googlemail.com> <0B56FB0E-C865-4C19-8380-EF2931BBCA7B@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <539CE9B4-ACFE-4FEE-8ADA-81531275F606@gmail.com> I like the name. I'm working on some apple scripting to automate some tasks that I personally need done on my ssytem. I might give this a go when I'm done pulling my hair out on those. Thanks and sound very very interesting. also when I learn it might sound like an interesting podcast or even a live podcast when I get the time. lol! On Jan 7, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Lewis Crack wrote: > HI Bryan, > > I agree that it sounds really interesting. I'm going to take a look at this project and download VoxKeys. > Lewis. > On 7 Jan 2011, at 08:56, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> yep, i am going to take a look at this two sounds very interesting. >> >> Ian McNamara >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 17:30:34 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:30:34 -0800 Subject: Searching for mail in the Time Machine In-Reply-To: <8F6E5A2A-97D9-41EE-95C4-95F8CCE1905C@hopewell.org.uk> References: <8F6E5A2A-97D9-41EE-95C4-95F8CCE1905C@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: You should be able to do that. that is if you did not exclude your time machined from spotlight. Take care. On Jan 7, 2011, at 5:01 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello All, > I need to retrieve an Apple mail item which I have deleted from my iMac but which is saved somewhere on some date in my Time Machine. Is there any way to search mail saved on the Time Machine using the contents of the mail item as a search string? I even know the date (within a week) on which I deleted the required mail item. > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jan 7 17:40:36 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:40:36 -0600 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: References: <40B84B6F-1869-479E-9F3D-A7AB30801C9C@softcon.com> <51017A15-3815-4CDD-9823-D2ED383347B6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <492C7659-6C33-4D8D-ABDA-65028DB7B66E@softcon.com> If the .trashes folder has no numbered folders in it, it means one of two things. First, it could simply be that you've never deleted any files from that particular volume as a user of the system, so there was never created a uid folder with your user id number. The other possibility is that there are folders in the .trashes folder, but they're all owned by root or system users, so that a regular user doesn't have permission to see them. If you use the sudo command though, you should be able to see them. do something like sudo ls this will prompt you for your system wide password, then run the ls command as root, which will allow you to see all the files in the folder. (of course this won't show dot files or folders), you'll need the -a switch for that. What I do (and I don't recomend this for folks who are not unix admins or command-line jockeys) is to simply run the usudo command with the / bin/bash command. This gives me a fully accessible and controllable root shell, allowing me to do whatever is necessary, without having to use sudo all the time when I want to accomplish something. However, this is very dangerous, and could ruin your system entirely if you are not careful, so as mentioned above, I don't recomend this for users who are just casual terminal users, or those who aren't fully informed as to what they are doing. It sure does make things easier though, as then you have full access, and can remove files as needed without needing to type additional commands to make it happen. And, to answer your other question, I doubt you're having troubles with your bin folder, if you were, a lot of things wouldn't work, including a lot of system activities that start when the system boots, so it isn't likely your /bin folder is corrupt. It is possible though, to have device files or something similar that won't delete themselves, even if you are using root to do the removing, so you may want to hunt down the files that refuse to delete, and look them up on google or apple or something, to see what they're for. It's possible a stray script moved things into the wrong place, and that's what's causing your problems. From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 17:50:57 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:50:57 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: <492C7659-6C33-4D8D-ABDA-65028DB7B66E@softcon.com> References: <40B84B6F-1869-479E-9F3D-A7AB30801C9C@softcon.com> <51017A15-3815-4CDD-9823-D2ED383347B6@mac-access.net> <492C7659-6C33-4D8D-ABDA-65028DB7B66E@softcon.com> Message-ID: <03B29884-9DDD-4974-BEA1-FBF915589B6F@mac-access.net> Thanks Travis, very helpful. I've always advised folks not to use the method you suggest, but I might give it a go, although my reason for deleting trash from the Command Line is one of speed, not necessity. Thanks again Take care James On 7 Jan 2011, at 17:40, Travis Siegel wrote: > If the .trashes folder has no numbered folders in it, it means one of two things. > First, it could simply be that you've never deleted any files from that particular volume as a user of the system, so there was never created a uid folder with your user id number. > The other possibility is that there are folders in the .trashes folder, but they're all owned by root or system users, so that a regular user doesn't have permission to see them. > If you use the sudo command though, you should be able to see them. > do something like > sudo ls > this will prompt you for your system wide password, then run the ls command as root, which will allow you to see all the files in the folder. > (of course this won't show dot files or folders), you'll need the -a switch for that. > What I do (and I don't recomend this for folks who are not unix admins or command-line jockeys) is to simply run the usudo command with the /bin/bash command. > This gives me a fully accessible and controllable root shell, allowing me to do whatever is necessary, without having to use sudo all the time when I want to accomplish something. > However, this is very dangerous, and could ruin your system entirely if you are not careful, so as mentioned above, I don't recomend this for users who are just casual terminal users, or those who aren't fully informed as to what they are doing. > It sure does make things easier though, as then you have full access, and can remove files as needed without needing to type additional commands to make it happen. > And, to answer your other question, I doubt you're having troubles with your bin folder, if you were, a lot of things wouldn't work, including a lot of system activities that start when the system boots, so it isn't likely your /bin folder is corrupt. > It is possible though, to have device files or something similar that won't delete themselves, even if you are using root to do the removing, so you may want to hunt down the files that refuse to delete, and look them up on google or apple or something, to see what they're for. It's possible a stray script moved things into the wrong place, and that's what's causing your problems. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From w9fyi at me.com Fri Jan 7 18:05:08 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:05:08 -0700 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7D0A2888-FA45-4730-9E77-D9F639C1E29E@me.com> Gordon, WHat does apple do different that is done in the windows world? I'm curious from the user perspective? Thanks On Jan 7, 2011, at 7:14 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Bill > > First, please don't make the mistake of comparing what happens in the Windows world with that of Apple. They are two very different concepts. > > Secondly, your machine will run Lion when it's released, probably later this year. Lion is Apple's code name for Mac OSX 10.7, just as Snow Leopard is the code name for 10.6, Leopard for 10.5, Tiger for 10.4. Previously, Apple used other synonyms such as Jaguar, Panther and, I believe, there were others before those. > > So I hope that clears things up a little for you. > > Gordon > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 12:57, William Deatherage wrote: > >> First of all, Thank you for the informat ion on getting a mike for my I.mac. Second I have been hearing about Apple bringing out a new operating system called Lion. I am now running Snow leopard. I got this computer at a good price but it is an old machine. I was told that it probably won't go past 2 gigs of memory. so what i was wondering how many people might not up grade to the latest and greatest. systems. i know from running windows. there are those who say if it still works for me I won't change. for example, my Mother-in-law is still running XP on her computer and is quite happy with it. it does what she wants it to do. I was wondering if there are Mac users who are like that? >> just a thought for discussion. >> Have a good and a wonderful week-end. >> Bill Deatherage >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 18:16:07 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:16:07 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: <03B29884-9DDD-4974-BEA1-FBF915589B6F@mac-access.net> References: <40B84B6F-1869-479E-9F3D-A7AB30801C9C@softcon.com> <51017A15-3815-4CDD-9823-D2ED383347B6@mac-access.net> <492C7659-6C33-4D8D-ABDA-65028DB7B66E@softcon.com> <03B29884-9DDD-4974-BEA1-FBF915589B6F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <07CA22D7-DC88-4B0A-BFA5-B4D5BB30D339@mac-access.net> Hi Travis and all Well, I've finally managed to do it, but I'm still not sure which .Trashes folder the Dock's Trash is pointing too, although it's obviously somewhere in /VOLUMES. I suspect it is root, but when I tried there previously it did not work. Must have done something incorrectly. I cleaned out all of the Trashes on all of the drives in one go which solved answered my curiosity. Thanks again Take care James On 7 Jan 2011, at 17:50, James AUSTIN wrote: > Thanks Travis, very helpful. I've always advised folks not to use the method you suggest, but I might give it a go, although my reason for deleting trash from the Command Line is one of speed, not necessity. > > Thanks again > Take care > James > On 7 Jan 2011, at 17:40, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> If the .trashes folder has no numbered folders in it, it means one of two things. >> First, it could simply be that you've never deleted any files from that particular volume as a user of the system, so there was never created a uid folder with your user id number. >> The other possibility is that there are folders in the .trashes folder, but they're all owned by root or system users, so that a regular user doesn't have permission to see them. >> If you use the sudo command though, you should be able to see them. >> do something like >> sudo ls >> this will prompt you for your system wide password, then run the ls command as root, which will allow you to see all the files in the folder. >> (of course this won't show dot files or folders), you'll need the -a switch for that. >> What I do (and I don't recomend this for folks who are not unix admins or command-line jockeys) is to simply run the usudo command with the /bin/bash command. >> This gives me a fully accessible and controllable root shell, allowing me to do whatever is necessary, without having to use sudo all the time when I want to accomplish something. >> However, this is very dangerous, and could ruin your system entirely if you are not careful, so as mentioned above, I don't recomend this for users who are just casual terminal users, or those who aren't fully informed as to what they are doing. >> It sure does make things easier though, as then you have full access, and can remove files as needed without needing to type additional commands to make it happen. >> And, to answer your other question, I doubt you're having troubles with your bin folder, if you were, a lot of things wouldn't work, including a lot of system activities that start when the system boots, so it isn't likely your /bin folder is corrupt. >> It is possible though, to have device files or something similar that won't delete themselves, even if you are using root to do the removing, so you may want to hunt down the files that refuse to delete, and look them up on google or apple or something, to see what they're for. It's possible a stray script moved things into the wrong place, and that's what's causing your problems. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From jekis at fastmail.us Fri Jan 7 18:23:32 2011 From: jekis at fastmail.us (Justin Ekis) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:23:32 -0800 Subject: Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.6 and Launches Mac App Store In-Reply-To: References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Gordon and all I remember reading about this. There is no need to worry that the old way of buying software will be going anywhere. In fact, Apple encourages developers to maintain their own product web sites. Here's an article from 9 to 5 mac regarding demos and betas. It stands to reason that if installing those products directly from developers is allowed, it will also remain possible to buy the final product from there instead of the app store. Apple encourages Mac App Store demos, trials and betas to be hosted privately December 2, 2010 at 9:33 pm Apple has informed Mac Developers that demo, trial, and beta versions of software will not be permitted on the upcoming Mac App Store. Apple will only be accepting fully functional, retail versions of applications. Unlike with the iOS App Store, Apple is encouraging developers who wish to provide demos, trials, and betas to post them as files on their own personal websites. Your website is the best place to provide demos, trial versions, or betas of your software for customers to explore. The apps you submit to be reviewed for the Mac App Store should be fully functional, retail versions of your apps. Hope that clears everything up. Justin On Jan 7, 2011, at 4:57 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Sarah I don't mind the principle of the app store, don't get me wrong. I just hope that Apple does not prevent you from buying the applications you like directly from the developers if you prefer. I also don't like the concept of no shareware. Shareware, trialware, call it what you will;, has worked for many many years. Long since before Apple came on to the scene in a big way. Now, Apple is moving the goal posts, as we would say. Apple is trying to take control over not only the online music market, (and I grant you they filled a whole left buy people like Napster who didn't do the job properly). But the software market is very different and Apple doesn't appear to realise that. If, for instance, a new application comes out that does OCR, I would prefer to try it before I buy it, to know whether it's accessible, whether it works with my scanner, that sort of thing. In the case of music, you often know before you buy it whether or not you like it. And you can listen to a short preview of it on iTunes itself. Obviously it will become clear in the days and weeks ahead exactly how the app store works. But from what you yourself told us last night, "no demos", that isn't a good move. I also wonder what happens to those developers who don't opt to enter the app store. Do they become like outcasts? I sincerely hope that the option to buy from the developer does not become obsolete. Gordon On 7 Jan 2011, at 07:46, Sarah Alawami wrote: > OH I agree. I like it but at the same thme I hate it. What I want to and what I think I will do is try it from the company first then buy teh app from the app store. _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 18:37:25 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:37:25 +0000 Subject: The App Store In-Reply-To: References: <61923F46-CACC-4825-96C9-F1D6AE805A11@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0F2006CF-52B4-4E15-95EB-2DE956639759@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah Given Keith's confirmation, this is now a mute point. On 7 Jan 2011, at 17:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Oh no it will though be an option to look in one place only for apps. I get the feeling free limited versions will though still be available. I think they have in some countries started allowing demos but I could be wrong. I've read so many articles I can't keep track anymore. lol! From jekis at fastmail.us Fri Jan 7 18:37:27 2011 From: jekis at fastmail.us (Justin Ekis) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:37:27 -0800 Subject: Security oversights in new Mac App Store allow for paid applicationsto be pirated In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi James, This is not a mistake by Apple, as the very first sentence of this same article makes clear. "A significant number of developers have disregarded Apple's advice on validating App Store receipts before making their software available through the store." Apple told developers how to keep their software secure, so it is up to each developer to follow those directions. As for the second part of the article, they link to a blog post that further explains the possibility of programs being left open to worms. This applies to people who search on google to find these pirated programs. Basically, don't download a program that you find anywhere else than the app store or a developer's own web page. Any site claiming to offer pirated software could easily place malware inside the application bundle. If developers would follow Apple's guidelines, this wouldn't be possible. Justin On Jan 7, 2011, at 8:28 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: This is a very interesting read. If it is true, how can Apple have made such a mistake? As the article says at the end, it is possible that they have also left the platform open to attacks from worms etc. Enjoy! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/07/app_store_receipt_fail/ Take care James _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 18:42:58 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:42:58 +0000 Subject: Security oversights in new Mac App Store allow for paid applicationsto be pirated In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the confirmation Justin, must have skipped past the first line oops. On 7 Jan 2011, at 18:37, Justin Ekis wrote: > Hi James, > > This is not a mistake by Apple, as the very first sentence of this same article makes clear. "A significant number of developers have disregarded Apple's advice on validating App Store receipts before making their software available through the store." Apple told developers how to keep their software secure, so it is up to each developer to follow those directions. > > As for the second part of the article, they link to a blog post that further explains the possibility of programs being left open to worms. This applies to people who search on google to find these pirated programs. Basically, don't download a program that you find anywhere else than the app store or a developer's own web page. Any site claiming to offer pirated software could easily place malware inside the application bundle. If developers would follow Apple's guidelines, this wouldn't be possible. > > Justin > > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 8:28 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > > This is a very interesting read. If it is true, how can Apple have made such a mistake? As the article says at the end, it is possible that they have also left the platform open to attacks from worms etc. > > Enjoy! > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/07/app_store_receipt_fail/ > > Take care > James > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 18:55:28 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:55:28 +0000 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: <7D0A2888-FA45-4730-9E77-D9F639C1E29E@me.com> References: <7D0A2888-FA45-4730-9E77-D9F639C1E29E@me.com> Message-ID: <3C8EEB4D-8BF8-4280-8A73-DB11EF39A55C@mac-access.net> Hi Justin There are so many difference I can't possibly mention them all. But, for example: Were you ever asked to "Activate" OSX? Did you ever buy OSX and get told that you had to install from scratch as this version isn't an upgrade? Were you ever blocked from using OSX because Apple decided to block your key? I installed OSX on my own with spoken and Braille output. Did you manage to accomplish that with Windows? There are so very very many differences, the comparison between the two is simply not valid in my opinion. Gordon On 7 Jan 2011, at 18:05, Justin Mann wrote: > Gordon, > WHat does apple do different that is done in the windows world? I'm curious from the user perspective? From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 18:59:21 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:59:21 -0800 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: <3C8EEB4D-8BF8-4280-8A73-DB11EF39A55C@mac-access.net> References: <7D0A2888-FA45-4730-9E77-D9F639C1E29E@me.com> <3C8EEB4D-8BF8-4280-8A73-DB11EF39A55C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Actually if you don't have an OEM disk for SNL you can install on any machine, otherwise you cannot install a disk from your laptop on to let's say your mini. S On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Justin > > There are so many difference I can't possibly mention them all. But, for example: > > Were you ever asked to "Activate" OSX? Did you ever buy OSX and get told that you had to install from scratch as this version isn't an upgrade? > > Were you ever blocked from using OSX because Apple decided to block your key? > > I installed OSX on my own with spoken and Braille output. Did you manage to accomplish that with Windows? > > There are so very very many differences, the comparison between the two is simply not valid in my opinion. > > Gordon > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 18:05, Justin Mann wrote: > >> Gordon, >> WHat does apple do different that is done in the windows world? I'm curious from the user perspective? > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 19:07:58 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:07:58 +0000 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: References: <7D0A2888-FA45-4730-9E77-D9F639C1E29E@me.com> <3C8EEB4D-8BF8-4280-8A73-DB11EF39A55C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <229D0962-53DA-43BC-BE7E-775568704BB1@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah If you buy OSX on the Apple store, you can install it wherever you like. On 7 Jan 2011, at 18:59, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually if you don't have an OEM disk for SNL you can install on any machine, otherwise you cannot install a disk from your laptop on to let's say your mini. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 19:25:52 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:25:52 +0100 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: <3C8EEB4D-8BF8-4280-8A73-DB11EF39A55C@mac-access.net> References: <7D0A2888-FA45-4730-9E77-D9F639C1E29E@me.com> <3C8EEB4D-8BF8-4280-8A73-DB11EF39A55C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <316F434A-B107-4048-8819-E78B2012FF2A@gmail.com> Hi Gordon, That is indeed true. While you can use Narrator after the initial installation, it is what I prefer to call "half-assed" to put it mildly. In fact, my Windows 7 installation wasn't exactly what you would call a success, as Narrator often went silent, crashed, or a variety of other things. Microsoft may have put accessibility standards in place to create things like the buffer, but it is also worth considering how many developers actually care about them not to mention use them. When it comes to accessibility, it is very hard to compare the two systems. While Mac OS X does not require scripting and has a fully fledged screen reader, Windows does not. Narrator only reads the minimal amount of information. If you obtain a free screen reader such as NVDA or Thunder, you have pretty good solutions already although support has to be updated continuously every time a change is made to a program with built-in support. This is far from ideal, depending upon how often such a change is submitted and published. Also, another thing worth considering. As many if not all Windows-based screen readers rely on scripting (even for the most basic task), localization becomes a problem. I will give an example. Currently, we have just released JAWS 11 in Denmark a few months ago with a Danish translation. JAWS 12 was released a few months before this event, which leaves other users in the dust until a version has been translated unless they work with an English operating system. This is mostly due to scripts that do not match with the proper handles, strings etc for the operating system and cannot locate the content necessary to perform a function. This is an extremely huge drawback, as no user wants to miss out on features. You also have to consider SMA or "System Maintenance Agreements" which, at the rate Freedom Scientific is going, will cost you $250 at least every two years just to stay up-to-date. This is why free solutions like NVDA are excellent, though they lack support. NVDA has excellent support in many areas, though lacking in others. This is because the developers don't have as much time to devote to a free project, as depending on how many contributions in form of donations they receive, they also have to work in other environments. Another advantage of Mac OS X is that, as mentioned earlier, VoiceOver does not require scripting. The Cocoa (including CocoaTouch for iOS devices) already contain loads of accessibility frameworks which makes it possible for the developer to not always consider accessibility. I have often found many Mac and iOS applications which work perfectly leaving the developer completely baffled. Granted, if a Windows developer applies regular controls and nothing unusual, applications tend to work though this is also because of other scripts within the screen reader itself. Some screen readers, JAWS in this case, hardly function if you mess up a single line. I made an experiment several months ago and decided to clear out a few files and rewrite a few scripts. The result was a disaster. Literally nothing would read, and I would have calls to functions that literally did not exist after my corrections. This is the very downside to a Windows screen reader for the most part. While I would not scoff at anyone using Windows as I do not think WIndows is bad nor scripting. I think it is fair to consider all angles before either saying an operating system is worthless, or an operating system is better than its counterpart. I often find it hard to explain what the differences are. They are just some numerous, which makes it very difficult to outline. This is not just regarding accessibility, but concerning the core of the operating system. Further, VoiceOVer works off of the Mac OS X DVD since Tiger, including with braille support. This means that you can actually reformat, repair your disks if they are too badly damaged to be repaired without being shut down, reset your password, and install Mac OS X from an entirely clean hard drive. I realize I am picking on JAWS for WIndows quite a lot here, and I apologize. I guess that is because at the moment, it appears to be mostly popular among blind PC users as well as being my primary Windows screen reader those few times when I do boot into Windows. I don't want to shoot down Windows, and I hope those Windows users who may be subscribed to this list can at least take the time to understand and come to terms with what I am saying. I am not saying that Mac OS X is better simply because it does not require the same elements as a Windows-based accessibility solution has to abide by, or even that Mac OS X itself is much better because of its structure and performance. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 20:30:33 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:30:33 -0800 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: <229D0962-53DA-43BC-BE7E-775568704BB1@mac-access.net> References: <7D0A2888-FA45-4730-9E77-D9F639C1E29E@me.com> <3C8EEB4D-8BF8-4280-8A73-DB11EF39A55C@mac-access.net> <229D0962-53DA-43BC-BE7E-775568704BB1@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Yeah t's what I mean. a retail vs a OEM disk. Example I cannot install using the disk that came with my laptop let's say on someone else's mini. I've known of people who've tried and the thing screamed at them. lol! On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Sarah > > If you buy OSX on the Apple store, you can install it wherever you like. > > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 18:59, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually if you don't have an OEM disk for SNL you can install on any machine, otherwise you cannot install a disk from your laptop on to let's say your mini. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 21:11:28 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:11:28 +0000 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: <316F434A-B107-4048-8819-E78B2012FF2A@gmail.com> References: <7D0A2888-FA45-4730-9E77-D9F639C1E29E@me.com> <3C8EEB4D-8BF8-4280-8A73-DB11EF39A55C@mac-access.net> <316F434A-B107-4048-8819-E78B2012FF2A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <42E0F722-F8C4-4712-9B89-7CC5583E06CC@mac-access.net> Hello Nic On 7 Jan 2011, at 19:25, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > ? Hi Gordon, > Not exactly, but he's here. I kind of hoped this wouldn't develop as a thread because it was inevitable that discussion of the internals of Windows would spring up, which is way off topic for this group. I know you're only using it to make a comparison but we need to drop this angle of the thread. Gordon was a little bit silly for leading it down this path; it's his fault not yours. I'm deliberately not quoting you here Nic, although I did read your message. You are absolutely correct that each does have its advantages, even from the perspective of the visual user. But I don't want to have this thread continue if it's all the same to other members because it is inevitably going to lead to friction over something as silly as the "my toy's better than your toy" argument which is not the purpose of this group. So, forgive me all, but I am stamping on this thread here and now. I don't often put my proverbial foot down like this; but this is one of those occasions where it is necessary, based on experience. The long and the short of this is that if you want to use Windows, fine; enjoy yourself. If you need to use Windows for your work but use OSX for home out of choice, great; I hope you make a productive and rewarding living and enjoy yourself after work relaxing with your operating system of choice. If, on the other hand, you are fortunate as Gordon and I are most of the time, to be able to use OSX for home and work, that's great; aren't we lucky. In any event, let's stay right away from the Windows stuff and, especially, comparisons. It always leads us off topic and often leads to friction; neither of which we want. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 21:17:00 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:17:00 +0000 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: References: <7D0A2888-FA45-4730-9E77-D9F639C1E29E@me.com> <3C8EEB4D-8BF8-4280-8A73-DB11EF39A55C@mac-access.net> <229D0962-53DA-43BC-BE7E-775568704BB1@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Sarah On 7 Jan 2011, at 20:30, Sarah Alawami wrote: > ? Yeah t's what I mean. a retail vs a OEM disk. Example I cannot install using the disk that came with my laptop let's say on someone else's mini. I've known of people who've tried and the thing screamed at them. lol! I think that's how Apple wanted it. But while this is true, the fact remains that the operating system itself can be installed as many times as you need without having to bother about activations and blocked keys. Even OSX Server which does use a serial numbering scheme, does not require you to activate. Just use the correct serial number for the disk, and its perfectly happy. The only proviso being that you don't run two instances of OSX Server with the same serial number on the same network interface. Actually it would be illegal, of course, to run the same licensed copy of Server on two or more machines that are not connected. We, of course, do not do so. We have 4 distinctly unique copies of Server running on our two networks and each can see the other. They're perfectly happy. You couldn't cluster servers as we do if you weren't being totally honest with your serial number and licensing. I hope Apple sticks to this policy because it works. Lynne From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 22:15:39 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:15:39 -0500 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: References: <40B84B6F-1869-479E-9F3D-A7AB30801C9C@softcon.com> <51017A15-3815-4CDD-9823-D2ED383347B6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <41C79B3A-280D-47C1-9B56-499CCD506AA9@gmail.com> To delete trash from the command line do the follwoing: 1. Log in as root. 2. Change directory to /users/your name. 3. Type sudo rm -r .trash press enter. On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:40 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Travis, > > Despite finding the correct folder, I am unable to find the 501 etc folders. Apparently, they do not exist. I am certain that /bin is in my PATH, as I doubt my machine would be running if it were not. > > Do you think that the the system is somehow corrupted? > > Thanks > Take care > James > On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:36, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Travis >> >> Yes it does thanks. You've also confirmed my suspicion that the .Trash folder in the home folder is linked, but I am unable to delete files from this folder, so I'll try from the root level. >> >> Thanks again >> Take care >> James >> On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:05, Travis Siegel wrote: >> >>> On your root drive (what's referred to as /) in the file system you'll find a folder called .trashes (note the leading period in the filename, this is what makes it invisible to finder) >>> Inside this .trashes folder you'll find folders like 501 502 503 and so on. Each of these folders are the folder numbers associated with user records in the password file. >>> Inside these folders (in my case it's 502) you'll find the actual trashed items you've deleted from finder. >>> If there are multiple users on a system, then you'll have multiple folders in the .trashes folder, and each one will hold the deleted files from finder. >>> You'll also note that each volume mounted on your system has a similar .trashes folder, and only files from that particular file system wind up in the trash for that volume. >>> It's all kind of complicated, but does make a certain kind of sense when you think about it. >>> But, each person has a .trash folder in their home folder that is linked to their /.trashes/uid folder as well, so that's kind of a shortcut for finding the files you've removed on the current volume. Of course, if you're like me, and have several volumes, you'll need to check each one, because only the boot partition is linked into your home folder. >>> You'll need to enter each .trashes folder, use suodo or something similar to run the rm -R * command to remove all deleted files. >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 22:20:11 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:20:11 +0000 Subject: Trouble emptying Trash from the command line In-Reply-To: <41C79B3A-280D-47C1-9B56-499CCD506AA9@gmail.com> References: <40B84B6F-1869-479E-9F3D-A7AB30801C9C@softcon.com> <51017A15-3815-4CDD-9823-D2ED383347B6@mac-access.net> <41C79B3A-280D-47C1-9B56-499CCD506AA9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Marcy, I managed to do it, but by trashing all the .Trashes via /VOLUMES. Take care James On 7 Jan 2011, at 22:15, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > To delete trash from the command line do the follwoing: > > 1. Log in as root. > 2. Change directory to /users/your name. > 3. Type sudo rm -r .trash press enter. > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:40 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Travis, >> >> Despite finding the correct folder, I am unable to find the 501 etc folders. Apparently, they do not exist. I am certain that /bin is in my PATH, as I doubt my machine would be running if it were not. >> >> Do you think that the the system is somehow corrupted? >> >> Thanks >> Take care >> James >> On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:36, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Travis >>> >>> Yes it does thanks. You've also confirmed my suspicion that the .Trash folder in the home folder is linked, but I am unable to delete files from this folder, so I'll try from the root level. >>> >>> Thanks again >>> Take care >>> James >>> On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:05, Travis Siegel wrote: >>> >>>> On your root drive (what's referred to as /) in the file system you'll find a folder called .trashes (note the leading period in the filename, this is what makes it invisible to finder) >>>> Inside this .trashes folder you'll find folders like 501 502 503 and so on. Each of these folders are the folder numbers associated with user records in the password file. >>>> Inside these folders (in my case it's 502) you'll find the actual trashed items you've deleted from finder. >>>> If there are multiple users on a system, then you'll have multiple folders in the .trashes folder, and each one will hold the deleted files from finder. >>>> You'll also note that each volume mounted on your system has a similar .trashes folder, and only files from that particular file system wind up in the trash for that volume. >>>> It's all kind of complicated, but does make a certain kind of sense when you think about it. >>>> But, each person has a .trash folder in their home folder that is linked to their /.trashes/uid folder as well, so that's kind of a shortcut for finding the files you've removed on the current volume. Of course, if you're like me, and have several volumes, you'll need to check each one, because only the boot partition is linked into your home folder. >>>> You'll need to enter each .trashes folder, use suodo or something similar to run the rm -R * command to remove all deleted files. >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 7 22:33:13 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:33:13 +0000 Subject: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? Message-ID: Hello everyone, Has anyone noticed any strange behaviour regarding the Command Tab list since updating to 10.6.6? Thanks Take care James From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Jan 8 00:09:17 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:09:17 +0000 Subject: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi James. Do you mean when pressing command and tab to switch betweeen applications? because if so, I'm having no problems so far. Regards. Lewis. On 7 Jan 2011, at 22:33, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Has anyone noticed any strange behaviour regarding the Command Tab list since updating to 10.6.6? > > Thanks > Take care > James > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jan 8 00:25:47 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:25:47 -0400 Subject: PodCast update hotkey Message-ID: <364AB2A3-A5C2-4987-85E9-4B7BCB0131B3@compuconference.com> Hi Gang: Is there a hotkey in iTunes to update podcasts? Thanks all over the place gang. From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Jan 8 01:04:22 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 01:04:22 +0000 Subject: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Lewis & James Me neither. Focus is tracking fine when I toggle through apps even when I have about a dozen windows open which, to my shame, is quite common for me. On 8 Jan 2011, at 00:09, Lewis Crack wrote: > > Do you mean when pressing command and tab to switch betweeen applications? because if so, I'm having no problems so far. From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Jan 8 01:09:56 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 01:09:56 +0000 Subject: PodCast update hotkey In-Reply-To: <364AB2A3-A5C2-4987-85E9-4B7BCB0131B3@compuconference.com> References: <364AB2A3-A5C2-4987-85E9-4B7BCB0131B3@compuconference.com> Message-ID: <0D9BB2DC-E046-4C4C-B84F-52C825E693F3@mac-access.net> Hi Jim What do you mean by update? Do you mean actually performing the action of downloading updates from the respective podcast feed on the Internet? If so, not that I'm aware of. You just highlight the podcast you want to update, (or podcasts), bring up the context menu using VO+Shift+M and move to the relevant option. I don't believe there is a hot key combination to do it on the fly. Gordon On 8 Jan 2011, at 00:25, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > > Is there a hotkey in iTunes to update podcasts? From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jan 8 01:19:44 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:19:44 -0400 Subject: PodCast update hotkey In-Reply-To: <0D9BB2DC-E046-4C4C-B84F-52C825E693F3@mac-access.net> References: <364AB2A3-A5C2-4987-85E9-4B7BCB0131B3@compuconference.com> <0D9BB2DC-E046-4C4C-B84F-52C825E693F3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <91FC4D3A-7B99-4045-BCFB-E8D0D36F2DF9@compuconference.com> Gordon: Thanks for your response. That's what I thought. Again, thanks. On 2011-01-07, at 9:09 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Jim > > What do you mean by update? Do you mean actually performing the action of downloading updates from the respective podcast feed on the Internet? If so, not that I'm aware of. You just highlight the podcast you want to update, (or podcasts), bring up the context menu using VO+Shift+M and move to the relevant option. I don't believe there is a hot key combination to do it on the fly. > > Gordon > > On 8 Jan 2011, at 00:25, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >> Is there a hotkey in iTunes to update podcasts? > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From w9fyi at me.com Sat Jan 8 02:31:31 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:31:31 -0700 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: <3C8EEB4D-8BF8-4280-8A73-DB11EF39A55C@mac-access.net> References: <7D0A2888-FA45-4730-9E77-D9F639C1E29E@me.com> <3C8EEB4D-8BF8-4280-8A73-DB11EF39A55C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <740B141C-CCFB-4B78-9C90-03EA13486400@me.com> ah I see what you mean. On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Justin > > There are so many difference I can't possibly mention them all. But, for example: > > Were you ever asked to "Activate" OSX? Did you ever buy OSX and get told that you had to install from scratch as this version isn't an upgrade? > > Were you ever blocked from using OSX because Apple decided to block your key? > > I installed OSX on my own with spoken and Braille output. Did you manage to accomplish that with Windows? > > There are so very very many differences, the comparison between the two is simply not valid in my opinion. > > Gordon > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 18:05, Justin Mann wrote: > >> Gordon, >> WHat does apple do different that is done in the windows world? I'm curious from the user perspective? > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From w9fyi at me.com Sat Jan 8 02:37:43 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:37:43 -0700 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: <316F434A-B107-4048-8819-E78B2012FF2A@gmail.com> References: <7D0A2888-FA45-4730-9E77-D9F639C1E29E@me.com> <3C8EEB4D-8BF8-4280-8A73-DB11EF39A55C@mac-access.net> <316F434A-B107-4048-8819-E78B2012FF2A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Is it safe to say that Apple is becoming much more prevelent in the blind community? I do hope that son I'll see Apple used in an employement solution. On Jan 7, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Gordon, > > That is indeed true. While you can use Narrator after the initial installation, it is what I prefer to call "half-assed" to put it mildly. In fact, my Windows 7 installation wasn't exactly what you would call a success, as Narrator often went silent, crashed, or a variety of other things. > > Microsoft may have put accessibility standards in place to create things like the buffer, but it is also worth considering how many developers actually care about them not to mention use them. > > When it comes to accessibility, it is very hard to compare the two systems. While Mac OS X does not require scripting and has a fully fledged screen reader, Windows does not. Narrator only reads the minimal amount of information. If you obtain a free screen reader such as NVDA or Thunder, you have pretty good solutions already although support has to be updated continuously every time a change is made to a program with built-in support. This is far from ideal, depending upon how often such a change is submitted and published. > > Also, another thing worth considering. As many if not all Windows-based screen readers rely on scripting (even for the most basic task), localization becomes a problem. I will give an example. > > Currently, we have just released JAWS 11 in Denmark a few months ago with a Danish translation. JAWS 12 was released a few months before this event, which leaves other users in the dust until a version has been translated unless they work with an English operating system. This is mostly due to scripts that do not match with the proper handles, strings etc for the operating system and cannot locate the content necessary to perform a function. This is an extremely huge drawback, as no user wants to miss out on features. > > You also have to consider SMA or "System Maintenance Agreements" which, at the rate Freedom Scientific is going, will cost you $250 at least every two years just to stay up-to-date. This is why free solutions like NVDA are excellent, though they lack support. NVDA has excellent support in many areas, though lacking in others. This is because the developers don't have as much time to devote to a free project, as depending on how many contributions in form of donations they receive, they also have to work in other environments. > > Another advantage of Mac OS X is that, as mentioned earlier, VoiceOver does not require scripting. The Cocoa (including CocoaTouch for iOS devices) already contain loads of accessibility frameworks which makes it possible for the developer to not always consider accessibility. I have often found many Mac and iOS applications which work perfectly leaving the developer completely baffled. Granted, if a Windows developer applies regular controls and nothing unusual, applications tend to work though this is also because of other scripts within the screen reader itself. Some screen readers, JAWS in this case, hardly function if you mess up a single line. I made an experiment several months ago and decided to clear out a few files and rewrite a few scripts. The result was a disaster. Literally nothing would read, and I would have calls to functions that literally did not exist after my corrections. > > This is the very downside to a Windows screen reader for the most part. While I would not scoff at anyone using Windows as I do not think WIndows is bad nor scripting. I think it is fair to consider all angles before either saying an operating system is worthless, or an operating system is better than its counterpart. > > I often find it hard to explain what the differences are. They are just some numerous, which makes it very difficult to outline. This is not just regarding accessibility, but concerning the core of the operating system. > > Further, VoiceOVer works off of the Mac OS X DVD since Tiger, including with braille support. This means that you can actually reformat, repair your disks if they are too badly damaged to be repaired without being shut down, reset your password, and install Mac OS X from an entirely clean hard drive. > > I realize I am picking on JAWS for WIndows quite a lot here, and I apologize. I guess that is because at the moment, it appears to be mostly popular among blind PC users as well as being my primary Windows screen reader those few times when I do boot into Windows. I don't want to shoot down Windows, and I hope those Windows users who may be subscribed to this list can at least take the time to understand and come to terms with what I am saying. I am not saying that Mac OS X is better simply because it does not require the same elements as a Windows-based accessibility solution has to abide by, or even that Mac OS X itself is much better because of its structure and performance. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jan 8 12:06:02 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:06:02 +0000 Subject: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6177B5B8-47F6-4095-87F8-DC05890B8359@mac-access.net> Hi Gordon & Lewis, Thanks for the clarification. Gordon why is that a shame? Would be nice though if Spaces worked as it should that way we could separate out tasks to different screens. Take care James On 8 Jan 2011, at 01:04, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Lewis & James > > Me neither. Focus is tracking fine when I toggle through apps even when I have about a dozen windows open which, to my shame, is quite common for me. > > On 8 Jan 2011, at 00:09, Lewis Crack wrote: >> >> Do you mean when pressing command and tab to switch between applications? because if so, I'm having no problems so far. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jan 8 14:25:11 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 10:25:11 -0400 Subject: Shazam on the iPhone question. Message-ID: <7E380915-4C19-440C-87AB-D01662AB8CC6@compuconference.com> Hi Folks: I use to be able to hear music through my headset while using Shazam. I now now longer can do that. Is there a setting that allows listening through the headset? Thanks gang. From wa9dro at gmail.com Sat Jan 8 15:16:43 2011 From: wa9dro at gmail.com (Keith Reedy) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 10:16:43 -0500 Subject: Amateur radio logging programs. References: <383CF21E-6F1C-4E64-857E-5D8726525826@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1E9625E1-37D5-4C80-B8D1-BA06FBC5EE19@gmail.com> > > You folks who are hams will like this. > > I have found 2, yes I said 2 logging programs on the mac app store for ham radio operators and they are both accessible. > Ham Log cells for$0.99 and contains a wealth of information like > call sign look ups > WWV propagation > DX clusters and more. Thats a lot for a dollar! > > The other logging program is the one I have been using for some time > Aether and it sells for $38. > > FYI! > Keith Reedy> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> http://www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request at freelists.org >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at http://www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Jan 8 17:12:37 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:12:37 +0000 Subject: How to find a specified app in the app store Message-ID: Hello, If someone tells you the name or developer of a useful sounding MAC OS app then how can I easily find it in the app store? I have tried the search string in the toolbar for an app which I know is in the app store but it does not help. I tried the search option in the store menu of app store but that does not help either. It is so easy to find required apps in the app store for the iPhone. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From billd at insightbb.com Sat Jan 8 18:23:28 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:23:28 -0500 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08D98D4A-AFA8-4284-A641-4E59388D8AE5@insightbb.com> HI Gordon, Thank you for the information. I am new to the apple world so I have a lot to learn. I am getting there slowly. Bill Deatherage On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Bill > > First, please don't make the mistake of comparing what happens in the Windows world with that of Apple. They are two very different concepts. > > Secondly, your machine will run Lion when it's released, probably later this year. Lion is Apple's code name for Mac OSX 10.7, just as Snow Leopard is the code name for 10.6, Leopard for 10.5, Tiger for 10.4. Previously, Apple used other synonyms such as Jaguar, Panther and, I believe, there were others before those. > > So I hope that clears things up a little for you. > > Gordon > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 12:57, William Deatherage wrote: > >> First of all, Thank you for the informant ion on getting a mike for my I.mac. Second I have been hearing about Apple bringing out a new operating system called Lion. I am now running Snow leopard. I got this computer at a good price but it is an old machine. I was told that it probably won't go past 2 gigs of memory. so what i was wondering how many people might not up grade to the latest and greatest. systems. i know from running windows. there are those who say if it still works for me I won't change. for example, my Mother-in-law is still running XP on her computer and is quite happy with it. it does what she wants it to do. I was wondering if there are Mac users who are like that? >> just a thought for discussion. >> Have a good and a wonderful week-end. >> Bill Deatherage >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From billd at insightbb.com Sat Jan 8 19:37:31 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:37:31 -0500 Subject: up grading my computer Message-ID: here are the spiciest for my computer. model I Mac memory: 1 Gig 667 megs processor: 1.83ghig intel duo model Identifier: Imac 52 1 Gig bus speed processor speed: 1..83 Gigs Is this enough information to be able to let me know to what extent my computer can be upgraded? Thank you for the information in advance and all the help so far. Bill Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Sat Jan 8 19:42:40 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:42:40 -0500 Subject: up grading my computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I often don't reply to my own message but i see i let the spell correction correct something I shouldn't. well, this time the laugh is on me(smile). Bill Deatherage On Jan 8, 2011, at 2:37 PM, William Deatherage wrote: > here are the spiciest for my computer. > model I Mac > memory: 1 Gig 667 mess > processor: 1.83ghig intel duo > model Identifier: Imac 52 > 1 Gig bus speed > processor speed: 1..83 Gigs > Is this enough information to be able to let me know to what extent my computer can be upgraded? > Thank you for the information in advance and all the help so far. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Jan 8 20:42:12 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:42:12 +0000 Subject: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? In-Reply-To: <6177B5B8-47F6-4095-87F8-DC05890B8359@mac-access.net> References: <6177B5B8-47F6-4095-87F8-DC05890B8359@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <33ECADA5-D107-4482-A86C-EDDE2193217B@mac-access.net> Hi James On 8 Jan 2011, at 12:06, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Gordon why is that a shame? Would be nice though if Spaces worked as it should that way we could separate out tasks to different screens. > I spoke with somebody at Apple and was told that Spaces does work as intended. I gather that command+tab is not supposed to be used like that. How true that is I don't know. But there you are. When I said "To my shame", I try to discipline myself not to leave redundant windows open because they all eat memory and I have noticed that when I have a lot of windows open I see a deterioration in performance. I personally don't use Spaces at the moment because the way it works, I simply don't see the advantage for a VoiceOver user. When I enquired about the Command+Tab issue in another forum, (Apple and VoiceOver related), I got what I can only call a shirty response from a self-acclaimed "power user", who said, and I quote from his message: "Why would you want spaces to work that way? You obviously don't have much idea of how to use your Mac". Some discussion ensued between him and myself off list, and he eventually stopped responding to messages when I got a bit sick of his self-importance, and I told him so. But that's another story entirely, I just hope he doesn't ever become involved in helping the new VoiceOver user. He'd have them taking their Mac back to the Apple Store within 3 minutes judging by the way he treats people. Anyway James, I will persist because I happen to agree with you about Spaces. It could, and should, be such a useful application. But I don't understand how you are supposed to use it if not with Command+Tab. Gordon From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 8 20:44:24 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:44:24 -0800 Subject: PodCast update hotkey In-Reply-To: <364AB2A3-A5C2-4987-85E9-4B7BCB0131B3@compuconference.com> References: <364AB2A3-A5C2-4987-85E9-4B7BCB0131B3@compuconference.com> Message-ID: Nope. You just have to go to the podcasts table select the podcast vo shift m and down arrow to update podcast and hit enter. S On Jan 7, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Gang: > > Is there a hotkey in iTunes to update podcasts? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Jan 8 20:49:30 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:49:30 +0000 Subject: Amateur radio logging programs. In-Reply-To: <1E9625E1-37D5-4C80-B8D1-BA06FBC5EE19@gmail.com> References: <383CF21E-6F1C-4E64-857E-5D8726525826@gmail.com> <1E9625E1-37D5-4C80-B8D1-BA06FBC5EE19@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Keith I personally have only found log programmes appropriate only for US amateur radio operators' use. Is this one any different? What does the second programme do? 73, de G0BZC Gordon On 8 Jan 2011, at 15:16, Keith Reedy wrote: >> I have found 2, yes I said 2 logging programs on the mac app store for ham radio operators and they are both accessible. >> Ham Log cells for$0.99 and contains a wealth of information like >> call sign look ups >> WWV propagation >> DX clusters and more. Thats a lot for a dollar! >> >> The other logging program is the one I have been using for some time >> Aether and it sells for $38. From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Jan 8 20:53:46 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:53:46 +0000 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: <08D98D4A-AFA8-4284-A641-4E59388D8AE5@insightbb.com> References: <08D98D4A-AFA8-4284-A641-4E59388D8AE5@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <27D4E0F8-1462-4538-9BDB-652018090036@mac-access.net> Hello Bill I sincerely hope you didn't take my comments out of context, they weren't intended as criticisms. I only said what I said because I would hate to see you get off on the wrong foot. Apple and Microsoft's approaches are very different, thank goodness This group is here to help you learn, and please don't feel in any way inhibited. Please ask your questions. But as I said, the Apple approach is very different to Microsoft's, and it's bound to take some getting used too. Gordon On 8 Jan 2011, at 18:23, William Deatherage wrote: > Thank you for the information. I am new to the apple world so I have a lot to learn. I am getting there slowly. From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Jan 8 20:56:47 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:56:47 +0000 Subject: up grading my computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bill This sounds like my old 2006 iMac was and you probably can't upgrade it beyond the 2GB of RAM. The early iMac Intel motherboards weren't designed for anything more than that. Some stores have even stopped selling the DDR memory you need. Gordon On 8 Jan 2011, at 19:37, William Deatherage wrote: > here are the spiciest for my computer. > model I Mac > memory: 1 Gig 667 megs > processor: 1.83ghig intel duo > model Identifier: Imac 52 > 1 Gig bus speed > processor speed: 1..83 Gigs > Is this enough information to be able to let me know to what extent my computer can be upgraded? From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 8 21:05:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:05:40 -0800 Subject: VLC app removed from App Store Message-ID: I knew this would happen eventally. Read more: http://aol.it/eciD8i From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 8 21:05:42 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:05:42 -0800 Subject: Verizon to announce CDMA iPhone 4 on Tuesday References: <028801cbaee7$6a553ac0$6601a8c0@server> Message-ID: <5D47C168-C588-43B7-B023-68A2352831FA@gmail.com> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/01/07/wsj_verizon_to_announce_cdma_iphone_4_on_tuesday.html Verizon to announce CDMA iPhone 4 on Tuesday By Daniel Eran Dilger Published: 07:20 PM EST Related AppleInsider articles: Verizon media event on Jan. 11 fuels Apple... Verizon reportedly sees iPhone as "essential... Verizon may pay Apple to keep iPhone away from... AT&T CEO says most iPhone users won't leave... Rumor suggests voice & data on Verizon iPhone,... As speculation surrounding Verizon's iPhone reached a fevered pitch, the Wall Street Journal has confidently announced that the carrier has finally landed Apple's iPhone. The report said the new deal will "upend the balance of power in the industry, ending Verizon rival AT&T Inc.'s exclusive hold on the device and leaving smaller players like Sprint Nextel Corp. and T-Mobile USA facing two well-capitalized competitors offering the world's most popular smartphone." Citing "people familiar with the matter," the report said that while "it wasn't immediately clear when Verison would have the devices in its stores," the carrier would be announcing details in its press conference scheduled for next Tuesday in New York. It also said the device "would be similar to the existing iPhone 4, but run on the carrier's CDMA technology." Verizon made a big splash at CES surrounding its "4G" LTE deployment plans, but that new network won't be available for voice calls until 2012. Impact on AT&T, other US carriers The report noted that Apple's exclusive deal with AT&T, which started in 2007, "has fueled much of the carrier's subscriber growth and has given it a solid lead in smartphone customers." Additionally, it noted that "the arrangement between Apple and AT&T was groundbreaking at a time when carriers tightly controlled the appearance and function of their phones, and put Silicon Valley companies like Apple and Google in the wireless industry's driver's seat." At the same time, while "Apple feels it has had tremendous success through its exclusive relationship with AT&T," the report stated, "it recognized that it needs to partner with Verizon to grow sales faster in the US." A note filed by analyst Shaw Wu of Kaufman Bros in December said the carrier was "still excited" about launching Apple's iPhone early next year "to combat slowing Android momentum in the US." Verizon has partnered with HTC and Motorola over the last year to promote Android phones in a hedge bet against BlackBerry's inability to deliver a worth competitor to the iPhone. However, the carrier has since seen a drop in Android interest with the arrival of iPhone 4. Despite its "Droid" branded push in 2010, "Top Verizon executives have continued to meet regularly with their counterparts at Apple, however" the report noted, "and have long expressed interest in carrying the iPhone, which could help add to the carrier's base of 93 million subscribers." AT&T has braced itself for the loss in iPhone exclusivity that it has seen coming for some time, working to lock existing iPhone 4 buyers into two year contracts and relying upon family and business plans that make it hard for individuals to leave the carrier. Other US carriers may be hit harder, including T-Mobile and Sprint, neither of which are expected to gain access to iPhone sales, even though the new CDMA iPhone should work on Sprint's network, and the existing iPhone 4 can work on T-Mobile's, albeit limited to the much slower, 2G GSM/EDGE service. The big event The report noted that Verizon's iPhone launch event "threatens to overshadow Verizon's keynote address Thursday at the Consumer Electronics show in Las Vegas, where the carrier touted its new 4G network and announced a number of Google-powered phones and tablet PCs designed to make use of the network's capabilities." Verizon has invited Mac journalists to the event but has notably excluded Gizmodo staff from its invitation list, a move that all but confirmed that the event involved Apple. This week, AppleInsider was first to report that Apple had been quietly restricting employee vacations at the end of January and in early February. On Friday, another rumor surfaced, suggesting that Apple could have a major product launch scheduled for Feb. 3. From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jan 8 21:27:55 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:27:55 +0000 Subject: VLC app removed from App Store In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FEE0D32-0C42-46DA-AC81-0B3F7AE6480C@mac-access.net> That's a real shame, but at least it is still available for the Desktop from the web. Take care James On 8 Jan 2011, at 21:05, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I knew this would happen eventally. Read more: > > http://aol.it/eciD8i > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From bryansmart at bryansmart.com Sat Jan 8 22:16:37 2011 From: bryansmart at bryansmart.com (Bryan Smart) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:16:37 -0500 Subject: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? In-Reply-To: <33ECADA5-D107-4482-A86C-EDDE2193217B@mac-access.net> References: <6177B5B8-47F6-4095-87F8-DC05890B8359@mac-access.net> <33ECADA5-D107-4482-A86C-EDDE2193217B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Gordon, as usual, it is about different styles of working. For sighted people, I think spaces can really matter. There is only so much room on screen before they start becoming buried in a pile of windows. When that happens, they waste too much time getting back to the right window. For blind people that are experienced with VoiceOver, this doesn't matter as much. A hundred windows don't visually affect us. As long as the Mac has enough memory to handle that many windows, there isn't a problem with leaving them open. If you're a new user to VO, and you always switch between windows with command-tab and command-`, then lots of windows can quickly become as frustrating as a sighted user that is dealing with a mass of window clutter. However, if you use the Window Chooser or Application Chooser, you can zip directly to any window, even if you have many open at once. The Application Chooser also keeps the mess organized, grouping the windows by application. I do wish, though, that Apple would make it work like regular menus, where, when opened, you can type part of the name of an item to jump directly to it. So, you could open the Application Chooser, type "fin", and have it place you on "Finder". That would really speed up the process! You can also use hot spots to jump you between several windows. If you were writing in a document, and had to have lots of Safari windows open for research, you could just set hot spot 1 to be your document, and hot spot 2 to be the web page that you're interacting with the most. That way, you can flip around through many windows to read for your research, but, with a single key, can be right back in your document, ready to write, or back to the main web page that you're reviewing. All of these features are handy, but new VO users learn the basics, and so perhaps don't notice all of the other ways that are available for saving them time. I don't think that it is a good idea to burden a new user with many variations of accomplishing the same task, so the basic approaches like command-tab and command-` should rightly be taught when someone is starting out. When they become advanced enough to become bothered with the limitations of working that way, though, they're ready to learn some additional approaches to speed up their computing. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:42 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? Hi James On 8 Jan 2011, at 12:06, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Gordon why is that a shame? Would be nice though if Spaces worked as it should that way we could separate out tasks to different screens. > I spoke with somebody at Apple and was told that Spaces does work as intended. I gather that command+tab is not supposed to be used like that. How true that is I don't know. But there you are. When I said "To my shame", I try to discipline myself not to leave redundant windows open because they all eat memory and I have noticed that when I have a lot of windows open I see a deterioration in performance. I personally don't use Spaces at the moment because the way it works, I simply don't see the advantage for a VoiceOver user. When I enquired about the Command+Tab issue in another forum, (Apple and VoiceOver related), I got what I can only call a shirty response from a self-acclaimed "power user", who said, and I quote from his message: "Why would you want spaces to work that way? You obviously don't have much idea of how to use your Mac". Some discussion ensued between him and myself off list, and he eventually stopped responding to messages when I got a bit sick of his self-importance, and I told him so. But that's another story entirely, I just hope he doesn't ever become involved in helping the new VoiceOver user. He'd have them taking their Mac back to the Apple Store within 3 minutes judging by the way he treats people. Anyway James, I will persist because I happen to agree with you about Spaces. It could, and should, be such a useful application. But I don't understand how you are supposed to use it if not with Command+Tab. Gordon _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From wa9dro at gmail.com Sat Jan 8 22:17:04 2011 From: wa9dro at gmail.com (Keith Reedy) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:17:04 -0500 Subject: Amateur radio logging programs. In-Reply-To: References: <383CF21E-6F1C-4E64-857E-5D8726525826@gmail.com> <1E9625E1-37D5-4C80-B8D1-BA06FBC5EE19@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3023B243-7B7D-451B-81D4-6ED1C9A450E3@gmail.com> Hi Gordon, Ham log does look like it works best for US amateurs, however, Aether will work world wide and although I have not tried it, I think Mac Logger DX will as well. Keith Reedy Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 On Jan 8, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Keith > > I personally have only found log programmes appropriate only for US amateur radio operators' use. Is this one any different? What does the second programme do? > > 73, de G0BZC > > Gordon > > On 8 Jan 2011, at 15:16, Keith Reedy wrote: >>> I have found 2, yes I said 2 logging programs on the mac app store for ham radio operators and they are both accessible. >>> Ham Log cells for$0.99 and contains a wealth of information like >>> call sign look ups >>> WWV propagation >>> DX clusters and more. Thats a lot for a dollar! >>> >>> The other logging program is the one I have been using for some time >>> Aether and it sells for $38. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 8 22:17:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:17:50 -0800 Subject: VLC app removed from App Store In-Reply-To: <8FEE0D32-0C42-46DA-AC81-0B3F7AE6480C@mac-access.net> References: <8FEE0D32-0C42-46DA-AC81-0B3F7AE6480C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <594C6268-87D6-40FD-950D-D41189ED46D8@gmail.com> Yeah something to do with the open source agreement and apple's restrictedness. Ididn't understand much of it but it was suposed to be removed in nov or something of last year. S On Jan 8, 2011, at 1:27 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > That's a real shame, but at least it is still available for the Desktop from the web. > > Take care > James > On 8 Jan 2011, at 21:05, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I knew this would happen eventally. Read more: >> >> http://aol.it/eciD8i >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From bryansmart at bryansmart.com Sat Jan 8 22:26:50 2011 From: bryansmart at bryansmart.com (Bryan Smart) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:26:50 -0500 Subject: Verizon to announce CDMA iPhone 4 on Tuesday In-Reply-To: <5D47C168-C588-43B7-B023-68A2352831FA@gmail.com> References: <028801cbaee7$6a553ac0$6601a8c0@server> <5D47C168-C588-43B7-B023-68A2352831FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: This is like hearing people talk about the end of the world. *smile* Yes, it will come one day. If Verizon is actually going to have an iPhone press conference, then I'm struck by how incredibly sad the situation is for them. This will be something like a pre-pre-announcement. Unless someone has paid a lot of money to buy off AT&T, Apple's carrier exclusivity agreement with them doesn't expire until 2012. If I were AT&T, I wouldn't let anyone buy me out of such an agreement, particularly a competitor like Verizon. Therefore, if Verizon is, in fact, getting the iPhone, they will legally not be allowed to sell it until 2012. Announcing to the press that "we will have the iPhone sometime 12 months or more from now," sounds incredibly desperate and sad, in a way. Also, do people know the situation on the newer CDMA networks? I thought that I heard that CDMA2000 was replacing GSM, even outside of the US? If so, then a new CDMA iPhone makes sense. If not, though, then the CDMA iPhone is just for Verizon, and won't work pretty much anywhere else. The radio and radio stack/software in the iPhone has been pretty well optimized by now. Making a new one for CDMA networks probably means that the early adopters might be in for a surprise or two. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 4:06 PM To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Verizon to announce CDMA iPhone 4 on Tuesday http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/01/07/wsj_verizon_to_announce_cdma_iphone_4_on_tuesday.html Verizon to announce CDMA iPhone 4 on Tuesday By Daniel Eran Dilger Published: 07:20 PM EST Related AppleInsider articles: Verizon media event on Jan. 11 fuels Apple... Verizon reportedly sees iPhone as "essential... Verizon may pay Apple to keep iPhone away from... AT&T CEO says most iPhone users won't leave... Rumor suggests voice & data on Verizon iPhone,... As speculation surrounding Verizon's iPhone reached a fevered pitch, the Wall Street Journal has confidently announced that the carrier has finally landed Apple's iPhone. The report said the new deal will "upend the balance of power in the industry, ending Verizon rival AT&T Inc.'s exclusive hold on the device and leaving smaller players like Sprint Nextel Corp. and T-Mobile USA facing two well-capitalized competitors offering the world's most popular smartphone." Citing "people familiar with the matter," the report said that while "it wasn't immediately clear when Verison would have the devices in its stores," the carrier would be announcing details in its press conference scheduled for next Tuesday in New York. It also said the device "would be similar to the existing iPhone 4, but run on the carrier's CDMA technology." Verizon made a big splash at CES surrounding its "4G" LTE deployment plans, but that new network won't be available for voice calls until 2012. Impact on AT&T, other US carriers The report noted that Apple's exclusive deal with AT&T, which started in 2007, "has fueled much of the carrier's subscriber growth and has given it a solid lead in smartphone customers." Additionally, it noted that "the arrangement between Apple and AT&T was groundbreaking at a time when carriers tightly controlled the appearance and function of their phones, and put Silicon Valley companies like Apple and Google in the wireless industry's driver's seat." At the same time, while "Apple feels it has had tremendous success through its exclusive relationship with AT&T," the report stated, "it recognized that it needs to partner with Verizon to grow sales faster in the US." A note filed by analyst Shaw Wu of Kaufman Bros in December said the carrier was "still excited" about launching Apple's iPhone early next year "to combat slowing Android momentum in the US." Verizon has partnered with HTC and Motorola over the last year to promote Android phones in a hedge bet against BlackBerry's inability to deliver a worth competitor to the iPhone. However, the carrier has since seen a drop in Android interest with the arrival of iPhone 4. Despite its "Droid" branded push in 2010, "Top Verizon executives have continued to meet regularly with their counterparts at Apple, however" the report noted, "and have long expressed interest in carrying the iPhone, which could help add to the carrier's base of 93 million subscribers." AT&T has braced itself for the loss in iPhone exclusivity that it has seen coming for some time, working to lock existing iPhone 4 buyers into two year contracts and relying upon family and business plans that make it hard for individuals to leave the carrier. Other US carriers may be hit harder, including T-Mobile and Sprint, neither of which are expected to gain access to iPhone sales, even though the new CDMA iPhone should work on Sprint's network, and the existing iPhone 4 can work on T-Mobile's, albeit limited to the much slower, 2G GSM/EDGE service. The big event The report noted that Verizon's iPhone launch event "threatens to overshadow Verizon's keynote address Thursday at the Consumer Electronics show in Las Vegas, where the carrier touted its new 4G network and announced a number of Google-powered phones and tablet PCs designed to make use of the network's capabilities." Verizon has invited Mac journalists to the event but has notably excluded Gizmodo staff from its invitation list, a move that all but confirmed that the event involved Apple. This week, AppleInsider was first to report that Apple had been quietly restricting employee vacations at the end of January and in early February. On Friday, another rumor surfaced, suggesting that Apple could have a major product launch scheduled for Feb. 3. _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jan 8 22:40:12 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:40:12 +0000 Subject: Spaces & different ways of working with Voice Over In-Reply-To: References: <6177B5B8-47F6-4095-87F8-DC05890B8359@mac-access.net> <33ECADA5-D107-4482-A86C-EDDE2193217B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0230ACEB-7547-4C23-8597-8AEBEC50D44A@mac-access.net> Hi Bryan, You're post was very interesting and quite long, so I'm going to top post, I hope nobody minds. :) Your suggestions for working with the App Chooser and Hot Spots are excellent, and actually I'd forgotten about them, well the Hot Spots anyway. That's what comes from using Voice Over since the beginning. :) But I really wanted to take up your thread on Spaces. Spaces could also be useful for we who are totally Blind as well as sighted people and those who have some sight. It doesn't really matter, Spaces is useful generally. Or at least it would be if Apple implemented it correctly. So for those of you who may not know, Spaces is a feature of Mac oS X which allows you to use several Desktops or screens if you prefer to organise work. This is a difficult concept to grasp unless you use the feature or it could be that I'm just rubbish at explaining it. But I'll try. When you're using several apps, you have all the windows spread over the Desktop. Now as Bryan has pointed out, in a way, that doesn't matter to those of us who cannot see the screen. But if you can, or if you are trying to be more organised for some reason, having a separate Desktop for E-Mail and Twitter and another for writing and researching might be quite useful. Each of the apps that is open on Desktop 1, would not be viewable on Desktop 2 if you use Command Tab. The same is true for Desktop 2. You could also open different instances of an app running on another desktop if you wish. This is how Spaces should work, but it doesn't. If you go into System Preferences > Expose & Spaces and check the box which says "Enable Spaces", you'll be able to test this out for yourselves. If you open several apps and then use either the Ctrl with the arrow keys or the number row to move to another Desktop, and then use Command Tab, you'll see all the apps that should all be on Desktop 1. I don't know why Apple refuse to allow people to use Spaces in this way, this is how it is done on Ubuntu and other Linux distros. This is how Spaces should work. This of course is just my opinion, and you're free to disagree with me or discard this message altogether. Thanks for reading & take care all James On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:16, Bryan Smart wrote: > Gordon, as usual, it is about different styles of working. > > For sighted people, I think spaces can really matter. There is only so much room on screen before they start becoming buried in a pile of windows. When that happens, they waste too much time getting back to the right window. > > For blind people that are experienced with VoiceOver, this doesn't matter as much. A hundred windows don't visually affect us. As long as the Mac has enough memory to handle that many windows, there isn't a problem with leaving them open. If you're a new user to VO, and you always switch between windows with command-tab and command-`, then lots of windows can quickly become as frustrating as a sighted user that is dealing with a mass of window clutter. > > However, if you use the Window Chooser or Application Chooser, you can zip directly to any window, even if you have many open at once. The Application Chooser also keeps the mess organized, grouping the windows by application. I do wish, though, that Apple would make it work like regular menus, where, when opened, you can type part of the name of an item to jump directly to it. So, you could open the Application Chooser, type "fin", and have it place you on "Finder". That would really speed up the process! > > You can also use hot spots to jump you between several windows. If you were writing in a document, and had to have lots of Safari windows open for research, you could just set hot spot 1 to be your document, and hot spot 2 to be the web page that you're interacting with the most. That way, you can flip around through many windows to read for your research, but, with a single key, can be right back in your document, ready to write, or back to the main web page that you're reviewing. > > All of these features are handy, but new VO users learn the basics, and so perhaps don't notice all of the other ways that are available for saving them time. I don't think that it is a good idea to burden a new user with many variations of accomplishing the same task, so the basic approaches like command-tab and command-` should rightly be taught when someone is starting out. When they become advanced enough to become bothered with the limitations of working that way, though, they're ready to learn some additional approaches to speed up their computing. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:42 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? > > Hi James > > On 8 Jan 2011, at 12:06, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> Gordon why is that a shame? Would be nice though if Spaces worked as it should that way we could separate out tasks to different screens. >> > I spoke with somebody at Apple and was told that Spaces does work as intended. I gather that command+tab is not supposed to be used like that. How true that is I don't know. But there you are. > > When I said "To my shame", I try to discipline myself not to leave redundant windows open because they all eat memory and I have noticed that when I have a lot of windows open I see a deterioration in performance. > > I personally don't use Spaces at the moment because the way it works, I simply don't see the advantage for a VoiceOver user. > > When I enquired about the Command+Tab issue in another forum, (Apple and VoiceOver related), I got what I can only call a shirty response from a self-acclaimed "power user", who said, and I quote from his message: > "Why would you want spaces to work that way? You obviously don't have much idea of how to use your Mac". > > Some discussion ensued between him and myself off list, and he eventually stopped responding to messages when I got a bit sick of his self-importance, and I told him so. > > But that's another story entirely, I just hope he doesn't ever become involved in helping the new VoiceOver user. He'd have them taking their Mac back to the Apple Store within 3 minutes judging by the way he treats people. > > Anyway James, I will persist because I happen to agree with you about Spaces. It could, and should, be such a useful application. But I don't understand how you are supposed to use it if not with Command+Tab. > > Gordon > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jan 8 22:49:20 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:49:20 +0000 Subject: VLC app removed from App Store In-Reply-To: <594C6268-87D6-40FD-950D-D41189ED46D8@gmail.com> References: <8FEE0D32-0C42-46DA-AC81-0B3F7AE6480C@mac-access.net> <594C6268-87D6-40FD-950D-D41189ED46D8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8A268505-1F4F-4B84-9A13-98F06C726DD2@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah, From what I read and it was only quickly, the author said that it had nothing to do with Apple and their tendency to control. Rather it was a personal crusade - the author's words by a guy who works for Nokia. Take care James On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:17, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yeah something to do with the open source agreement and apple's restrictedness. Ididn't understand much of it but it was suposed to be removed in nov or something of last year. > > S > On Jan 8, 2011, at 1:27 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> That's a real shame, but at least it is still available for the Desktop from the web. >> >> Take care >> James >> On 8 Jan 2011, at 21:05, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I knew this would happen eventally. Read more: >>> >>> http://aol.it/eciD8i >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 8 22:55:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:55:57 -0800 Subject: VLC app removed from App Store In-Reply-To: <8A268505-1F4F-4B84-9A13-98F06C726DD2@mac-access.net> References: <8FEE0D32-0C42-46DA-AC81-0B3F7AE6480C@mac-access.net> <594C6268-87D6-40FD-950D-D41189ED46D8@gmail.com> <8A268505-1F4F-4B84-9A13-98F06C726DD2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0B55328F-04E4-45E6-BE26-57B4EB1A3C3C@gmail.com> I must be thinking of another article. Uyeah one person already emailed the author of vlc and complained professionally. lol! Take care. On Jan 8, 2011, at 2:49 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > From what I read and it was only quickly, the author said that it had nothing to do with Apple and their tendency to control. Rather it was a personal crusade - the author's words by a guy who works for Nokia. > > Take care > James > On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:17, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Yeah something to do with the open source agreement and apple's restrictedness. Ididn't understand much of it but it was suposed to be removed in nov or something of last year. >> >> S >> On Jan 8, 2011, at 1:27 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> That's a real shame, but at least it is still available for the Desktop from the web. >>> >>> Take care >>> James >>> On 8 Jan 2011, at 21:05, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I knew this would happen eventally. Read more: >>>> >>>> http://aol.it/eciD8i >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 8 22:56:45 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:56:45 -0800 Subject: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <591A2108-300A-4A3D-96D7-3496FB017A73@gmail.com> I've seen it happen it is like the tab key is held down and it is not in reality. On Jan 7, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi James. > > Do you mean when pressing command and tab to switch betweeen applications? because if so, I'm having no problems so far. > Regards. Lewis. > On 7 Jan 2011, at 22:33, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Has anyone noticed any strange behaviour regarding the Command Tab list since updating to 10.6.6? >> >> Thanks >> Take care >> James >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From simoncavendish at me.com Sat Jan 8 23:01:12 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:01:12 +0000 Subject: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? In-Reply-To: References: <6177B5B8-47F6-4095-87F8-DC05890B8359@mac-access.net> <33ECADA5-D107-4482-A86C-EDDE2193217B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Listers, All i want to say at this point is that this is exactly why lists like ours are so precious, and I mean precious because - although I've been a mac user for three years, and a commited user to boot - your willingness to share the experiences and expertise always amazes me. I did not know that yo you could asign a hotspot to an application and then move swiftly between the hotspots so designed. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the listers' generosity in contributing to this list. I think Apple is great for all the frustrations I have xperienced. And to have you as understanding supportive and kind friends makes all the difference. I need my mac for my sanity but also for my work. If I have no work I have no means of purchasing my tecnology which is my freedom and control of choice. So I thank you all and I hope you won't think me sentimental. Best wishes Simon On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:16, Bryan Smart wrote: > Gordon, as usual, it is about different styles of working. > > For sighted people, I think spaces can really matter. There is only so much room on screen before they start becoming buried in a pile of windows. When that happens, they waste too much time getting back to the right window. > > For blind people that are experienced with VoiceOver, this doesn't matter as much. A hundred windows don't visually affect us. As long as the Mac has enough memory to handle that many windows, there isn't a problem with leaving them open. If you're a new user to VO, and you always switch between windows with command-tab and command-`, then lots of windows can quickly become as frustrating as a sighted user that is dealing with a mass of window clutter. > > However, if you use the Window Chooser or Application Chooser, you can zip directly to any window, even if you have many open at once. The Application Chooser also keeps the mess organized, grouping the windows by application. I do wish, though, that Apple would make it work like regular menus, where, when opened, you can type part of the name of an item to jump directly to it. So, you could open the Application Chooser, type "fin", and have it place you on "Finder". That would really speed up the process! > > You can also use hot spots to jump you between several windows. If you were writing in a document, and had to have lots of Safari windows open for research, you could just set hot spot 1 to be your document, and hot spot 2 to be the web page that you're interacting with the most. That way, you can flip around through many windows to read for your research, but, with a single key, can be right back in your document, ready to write, or back to the main web page that you're reviewing. > > All of these features are handy, but new VO users learn the basics, and so perhaps don't notice all of the other ways that are available for saving them time. I don't think that it is a good idea to burden a new user with many variations of accomplishing the same task, so the basic approaches like command-tab and command-` should rightly be taught when someone is starting out. When they become advanced enough to become bothered with the limitations of working that way, though, they're ready to learn some additional approaches to speed up their computing. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:42 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? > > Hi James > > On 8 Jan 2011, at 12:06, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> Gordon why is that a shame? Would be nice though if Spaces worked as it should that way we could separate out tasks to different screens. >> > I spoke with somebody at Apple and was told that Spaces does work as intended. I gather that command+tab is not supposed to be used like that. How true that is I don't know. But there you are. > > When I said "To my shame", I try to discipline myself not to leave redundant windows open because they all eat memory and I have noticed that when I have a lot of windows open I see a deterioration in performance. > > I personally don't use Spaces at the moment because the way it works, I simply don't see the advantage for a VoiceOver user. > > When I enquired about the Command+Tab issue in another forum, (Apple and VoiceOver related), I got what I can only call a shirty response from a self-acclaimed "power user", who said, and I quote from his message: > "Why would you want spaces to work that way? You obviously don't have much idea of how to use your Mac". > > Some discussion ensued between him and myself off list, and he eventually stopped responding to messages when I got a bit sick of his self-importance, and I told him so. > > But that's another story entirely, I just hope he doesn't ever become involved in helping the new VoiceOver user. He'd have them taking their Mac back to the Apple Store within 3 minutes judging by the way he treats people. > > Anyway James, I will persist because I happen to agree with you about Spaces. It could, and should, be such a useful application. But I don't understand how you are supposed to use it if not with Command+Tab. > > Gordon > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jan 8 23:14:36 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:14:36 +0000 Subject: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? In-Reply-To: References: <6177B5B8-47F6-4095-87F8-DC05890B8359@mac-access.net> <33ECADA5-D107-4482-A86C-EDDE2193217B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8CF6719A-7ADA-4BA4-B8E2-DB684FAA741C@mac-access.net> Hi Simon, Nice to see you back here. Sentimentality is no bad thing. As I said in a previous post, I had forgotten totally about assigning Hot Spots, so we al live and learn. Take care James On 8 Jan 2011, at 23:01, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > Hello Listers, > > All i want to say at this point is that this is exactly why lists like ours are so precious, and I mean precious because - although I've been a mac user for three years, and a commited user to boot - your willingness to share the experiences and expertise always amazes me. I did not know that yo you could asign a hotspot to an application and then move swiftly between the hotspots so designed. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the listers' generosity in contributing to this list. I think Apple is great for all the frustrations I have xperienced. And to have you as understanding supportive and kind friends makes all the difference. I need my mac for my sanity but also for my work. If I have no work I have no means of purchasing my tecnology which is my freedom and control of choice. So I thank you all and I hope you won't think me sentimental. > > Best wishes > > Simon > On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:16, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> Gordon, as usual, it is about different styles of working. >> >> For sighted people, I think spaces can really matter. There is only so much room on screen before they start becoming buried in a pile of windows. When that happens, they waste too much time getting back to the right window. >> >> For blind people that are experienced with VoiceOver, this doesn't matter as much. A hundred windows don't visually affect us. As long as the Mac has enough memory to handle that many windows, there isn't a problem with leaving them open. If you're a new user to VO, and you always switch between windows with command-tab and command-`, then lots of windows can quickly become as frustrating as a sighted user that is dealing with a mass of window clutter. >> >> However, if you use the Window Chooser or Application Chooser, you can zip directly to any window, even if you have many open at once. The Application Chooser also keeps the mess organized, grouping the windows by application. I do wish, though, that Apple would make it work like regular menus, where, when opened, you can type part of the name of an item to jump directly to it. So, you could open the Application Chooser, type "fin", and have it place you on "Finder". That would really speed up the process! >> >> You can also use hot spots to jump you between several windows. If you were writing in a document, and had to have lots of Safari windows open for research, you could just set hot spot 1 to be your document, and hot spot 2 to be the web page that you're interacting with the most. That way, you can flip around through many windows to read for your research, but, with a single key, can be right back in your document, ready to write, or back to the main web page that you're reviewing. >> >> All of these features are handy, but new VO users learn the basics, and so perhaps don't notice all of the other ways that are available for saving them time. I don't think that it is a good idea to burden a new user with many variations of accomplishing the same task, so the basic approaches like command-tab and command-` should rightly be taught when someone is starting out. When they become advanced enough to become bothered with the limitations of working that way, though, they're ready to learn some additional approaches to speed up their computing. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith >> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:42 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? >> >> Hi James >> >> On 8 Jan 2011, at 12:06, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>> Gordon why is that a shame? Would be nice though if Spaces worked as it should that way we could separate out tasks to different screens. >>> >> I spoke with somebody at Apple and was told that Spaces does work as intended. I gather that command+tab is not supposed to be used like that. How true that is I don't know. But there you are. >> >> When I said "To my shame", I try to discipline myself not to leave redundant windows open because they all eat memory and I have noticed that when I have a lot of windows open I see a deterioration in performance. >> >> I personally don't use Spaces at the moment because the way it works, I simply don't see the advantage for a VoiceOver user. >> >> When I enquired about the Command+Tab issue in another forum, (Apple and VoiceOver related), I got what I can only call a shirty response from a self-acclaimed "power user", who said, and I quote from his message: >> "Why would you want spaces to work that way? You obviously don't have much idea of how to use your Mac". >> >> Some discussion ensued between him and myself off list, and he eventually stopped responding to messages when I got a bit sick of his self-importance, and I told him so. >> >> But that's another story entirely, I just hope he doesn't ever become involved in helping the new VoiceOver user. He'd have them taking their Mac back to the Apple Store within 3 minutes judging by the way he treats people. >> >> Anyway James, I will persist because I happen to agree with you about Spaces. It could, and should, be such a useful application. But I don't understand how you are supposed to use it if not with Command+Tab. >> >> Gordon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 8 23:45:05 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:45:05 -0800 Subject: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? In-Reply-To: References: <6177B5B8-47F6-4095-87F8-DC05890B8359@mac-access.net> <33ECADA5-D107-4482-A86C-EDDE2193217B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I can't figure how to make a hotspot to jump to another app. but I'll look that up as I'm sure I forgot. lol! On Jan 8, 2011, at 3:01 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > Hello Listers, > > All i want to say at this point is that this is exactly why lists like ours are so precious, and I mean precious because - although I've been a mac user for three years, and a commited user to boot - your willingness to share the experiences and expertise always amazes me. I did not know that yo you could asign a hotspot to an application and then move swiftly between the hotspots so designed. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the listers' generosity in contributing to this list. I think Apple is great for all the frustrations I have xperienced. And to have you as understanding supportive and kind friends makes all the difference. I need my mac for my sanity but also for my work. If I have no work I have no means of purchasing my tecnology which is my freedom and control of choice. So I thank you all and I hope you won't think me sentimental. > > Best wishes > > Simon > On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:16, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> Gordon, as usual, it is about different styles of working. >> >> For sighted people, I think spaces can really matter. There is only so much room on screen before they start becoming buried in a pile of windows. When that happens, they waste too much time getting back to the right window. >> >> For blind people that are experienced with VoiceOver, this doesn't matter as much. A hundred windows don't visually affect us. As long as the Mac has enough memory to handle that many windows, there isn't a problem with leaving them open. If you're a new user to VO, and you always switch between windows with command-tab and command-`, then lots of windows can quickly become as frustrating as a sighted user that is dealing with a mass of window clutter. >> >> However, if you use the Window Chooser or Application Chooser, you can zip directly to any window, even if you have many open at once. The Application Chooser also keeps the mess organized, grouping the windows by application. I do wish, though, that Apple would make it work like regular menus, where, when opened, you can type part of the name of an item to jump directly to it. So, you could open the Application Chooser, type "fin", and have it place you on "Finder". That would really speed up the process! >> >> You can also use hot spots to jump you between several windows. If you were writing in a document, and had to have lots of Safari windows open for research, you could just set hot spot 1 to be your document, and hot spot 2 to be the web page that you're interacting with the most. That way, you can flip around through many windows to read for your research, but, with a single key, can be right back in your document, ready to write, or back to the main web page that you're reviewing. >> >> All of these features are handy, but new VO users learn the basics, and so perhaps don't notice all of the other ways that are available for saving them time. I don't think that it is a good idea to burden a new user with many variations of accomplishing the same task, so the basic approaches like command-tab and command-` should rightly be taught when someone is starting out. When they become advanced enough to become bothered with the limitations of working that way, though, they're ready to learn some additional approaches to speed up their computing. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith >> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:42 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? >> >> Hi James >> >> On 8 Jan 2011, at 12:06, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>> Gordon why is that a shame? Would be nice though if Spaces worked as it should that way we could separate out tasks to different screens. >>> >> I spoke with somebody at Apple and was told that Spaces does work as intended. I gather that command+tab is not supposed to be used like that. How true that is I don't know. But there you are. >> >> When I said "To my shame", I try to discipline myself not to leave redundant windows open because they all eat memory and I have noticed that when I have a lot of windows open I see a deterioration in performance. >> >> I personally don't use Spaces at the moment because the way it works, I simply don't see the advantage for a VoiceOver user. >> >> When I enquired about the Command+Tab issue in another forum, (Apple and VoiceOver related), I got what I can only call a shirty response from a self-acclaimed "power user", who said, and I quote from his message: >> "Why would you want spaces to work that way? You obviously don't have much idea of how to use your Mac". >> >> Some discussion ensued between him and myself off list, and he eventually stopped responding to messages when I got a bit sick of his self-importance, and I told him so. >> >> But that's another story entirely, I just hope he doesn't ever become involved in helping the new VoiceOver user. He'd have them taking their Mac back to the Apple Store within 3 minutes judging by the way he treats people. >> >> Anyway James, I will persist because I happen to agree with you about Spaces. It could, and should, be such a useful application. But I don't understand how you are supposed to use it if not with Command+Tab. >> >> Gordon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From billd at insightbb.com Sun Jan 9 00:37:29 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:37:29 -0500 Subject: for discussion In-Reply-To: <27D4E0F8-1462-4538-9BDB-652018090036@mac-access.net> References: <08D98D4A-AFA8-4284-A641-4E59388D8AE5@insightbb.com> <27D4E0F8-1462-4538-9BDB-652018090036@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <60EB0AD9-3215-49D7-92DA-D890246D9D7E@insightbb.com> Hi Gordon, I didn't take the message that way. I realize there is a lot for me to learn and I am having fun doing it. I appreciate the list and everyone it. maybe someday I will be able to help someone else who is where I am now. and I look forward to doing it. Bill Deatherage From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 00:50:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:50:08 -0800 Subject: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? In-Reply-To: <8CF6719A-7ADA-4BA4-B8E2-DB684FAA741C@mac-access.net> References: <6177B5B8-47F6-4095-87F8-DC05890B8359@mac-access.net> <33ECADA5-D107-4482-A86C-EDDE2193217B@mac-access.net> <8CF6719A-7ADA-4BA4-B8E2-DB684FAA741C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8BBF2E76-1DE3-4C8F-8B69-80B655001929@gmail.com> Ok I feel stupid but I'm still learning. I read the vo manual and it was a bit confusing. the create hotspot and remove hotspot are the same hotkey. This was a bit confusing but I think I get it now. S On Jan 8, 2011, at 3:14 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Simon, > > Nice to see you back here. Sentimentality is no bad thing. As I said in a previous post, I had forgotten totally about assigning Hot Spots, so we al live and learn. > > Take care > James > On 8 Jan 2011, at 23:01, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > >> Hello Listers, >> >> All i want to say at this point is that this is exactly why lists like ours are so precious, and I mean precious because - although I've been a mac user for three years, and a commited user to boot - your willingness to share the experiences and expertise always amazes me. I did not know that yo you could asign a hotspot to an application and then move swiftly between the hotspots so designed. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the listers' generosity in contributing to this list. I think Apple is great for all the frustrations I have xperienced. And to have you as understanding supportive and kind friends makes all the difference. I need my mac for my sanity but also for my work. If I have no work I have no means of purchasing my tecnology which is my freedom and control of choice. So I thank you all and I hope you won't think me sentimental. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Simon >> On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:16, Bryan Smart wrote: >> >>> Gordon, as usual, it is about different styles of working. >>> >>> For sighted people, I think spaces can really matter. There is only so much room on screen before they start becoming buried in a pile of windows. When that happens, they waste too much time getting back to the right window. >>> >>> For blind people that are experienced with VoiceOver, this doesn't matter as much. A hundred windows don't visually affect us. As long as the Mac has enough memory to handle that many windows, there isn't a problem with leaving them open. If you're a new user to VO, and you always switch between windows with command-tab and command-`, then lots of windows can quickly become as frustrating as a sighted user that is dealing with a mass of window clutter. >>> >>> However, if you use the Window Chooser or Application Chooser, you can zip directly to any window, even if you have many open at once. The Application Chooser also keeps the mess organized, grouping the windows by application. I do wish, though, that Apple would make it work like regular menus, where, when opened, you can type part of the name of an item to jump directly to it. So, you could open the Application Chooser, type "fin", and have it place you on "Finder". That would really speed up the process! >>> >>> You can also use hot spots to jump you between several windows. If you were writing in a document, and had to have lots of Safari windows open for research, you could just set hot spot 1 to be your document, and hot spot 2 to be the web page that you're interacting with the most. That way, you can flip around through many windows to read for your research, but, with a single key, can be right back in your document, ready to write, or back to the main web page that you're reviewing. >>> >>> All of these features are handy, but new VO users learn the basics, and so perhaps don't notice all of the other ways that are available for saving them time. I don't think that it is a good idea to burden a new user with many variations of accomplishing the same task, so the basic approaches like command-tab and command-` should rightly be taught when someone is starting out. When they become advanced enough to become bothered with the limitations of working that way, though, they're ready to learn some additional approaches to speed up their computing. >>> >>> Bryan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith >>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:42 PM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? >>> >>> Hi James >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2011, at 12:06, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>> Gordon why is that a shame? Would be nice though if Spaces worked as it should that way we could separate out tasks to different screens. >>>> >>> I spoke with somebody at Apple and was told that Spaces does work as intended. I gather that command+tab is not supposed to be used like that. How true that is I don't know. But there you are. >>> >>> When I said "To my shame", I try to discipline myself not to leave redundant windows open because they all eat memory and I have noticed that when I have a lot of windows open I see a deterioration in performance. >>> >>> I personally don't use Spaces at the moment because the way it works, I simply don't see the advantage for a VoiceOver user. >>> >>> When I enquired about the Command+Tab issue in another forum, (Apple and VoiceOver related), I got what I can only call a shirty response from a self-acclaimed "power user", who said, and I quote from his message: >>> "Why would you want spaces to work that way? You obviously don't have much idea of how to use your Mac". >>> >>> Some discussion ensued between him and myself off list, and he eventually stopped responding to messages when I got a bit sick of his self-importance, and I told him so. >>> >>> But that's another story entirely, I just hope he doesn't ever become involved in helping the new VoiceOver user. He'd have them taking their Mac back to the Apple Store within 3 minutes judging by the way he treats people. >>> >>> Anyway James, I will persist because I happen to agree with you about Spaces. It could, and should, be such a useful application. But I don't understand how you are supposed to use it if not with Command+Tab. >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From opensesame at me.com Sun Jan 9 01:06:16 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:06:16 -0500 Subject: up grading my computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49CC674F-0E0A-4DBB-A4CB-3216113101FF@me.com> Hi Bill, As Gordon mentioned, that sounds like a late 2006 model "White" imac. Your list of specs says the processor is a "1.83ghig intel duo" but I'm guessing it's actually a Core 2 Duo. Would you mind double-checking that? A quick web search seems to indicate your model can be upgraded to 4 GB RAM and up to a 2 TB internal hard drive. There are many sources for new and used upgrade parts on the web. Personally, when I'm looking to upgrade a Mac, I generally shop at Other World Computing (aka OWC) which can be found at www.macsales.com. Their web site has extensive resources for determining the upgradability of your system, and they have instructions to help you perform the upgrades if you are interested in doing so. Note that I'm in the US and I don't know if OWC services the UK, but you can always get the details of what you need from OWC and then shop around. Here's the OWC page for your imac model: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/apple/memory/iMac/Intel_Core_2_Duo HTH, Bryan On Jan 8, 2011, at 2:37 PM, William Deatherage wrote: > here are the spiciest for my computer. > model I Mac > memory: 1 Gig 667 megs > processor: 1.83ghig intel duo > model Identifier: Imac 52 > 1 Gig bus speed > processor speed: 1..83 Gigs > Is this enough information to be able to let me know to what extent my computer can be upgraded? > Thank you for the information in advance and all the help so far. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From support at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 01:07:17 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 01:07:17 +0000 Subject: Rescheduled outage, please read! Message-ID: <251EFB78-C4E9-4A47-A84E-9BB8A0B5E3D3@mac-access.net> Good Saturday evening to those in the Americas, or good Sunday to those in the UK and Europe, or in Australasia. This post is to inform you that unexpectedly, we received confirmation yesterday that our new leased line which will carry our new SDSL2+ service is to be installed this morning. BT Openreach, who install all lines and fibre-optic cabling for all telecommunications providers within the UK sent an engineer yesterday to do the work. However, owing to the fact that he turned up a mere hour before darkness fell, and that he was unaccompanied by a colleague on what is a two-man job, he was unable to complete all of the work. Two engineers are attending our property this morning with a view to finally completing the work. Because the work is more involved than we had at first believed, (and more involved the BT Openreach appreciated), it will be necessary to change all of the cabling which runs from our local hub to our property. That involves replacing some 100 meters of thin cable with a new higher quality cable capable of supporting the SDSL2+ signal which is far more intense than either ADSL or DSL. This will mean that it will be necessary to close down our servers for a time this morning. We have scheduled this outage for 08:00 (UTC) and we anticipate that it will last for approximately one-and-a-half to two hours. During this time, you will, of course, be unable to access either our list server or any of the websites hosted by us. We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause you; but we are sure that you will understand that this work is necessary work, and that it will be of benefit to all of those who use our services, directly or indirectly. We have plans to enhance the group significantly by adding additional services. The network expansion which we are undertaking will allow us to significantly improve what we offer you in many ways. Gordon and I are investing significant amounts of money into this project, aided by no outside funding. So we hope that you will come to see the benefits in the not too distant future. And finally, as always, if you have any questions or comments regarding the above, please feel free to contact us at the usual support address: although it is doubtful you will be able to do so by morning, our time. Thank you again for your patience and understanding at this time. Lynne From support at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 01:32:36 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 01:32:36 +0000 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Shelly Blomstrom to our number. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at support at mac-access.net or our very capable assistant list controller Anne Robertson, anne at anarchie.org.uk and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 9 01:41:59 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:41:59 -0600 Subject: Moving items off the doc Message-ID: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> Can someone please provide me with step by step instructions how to drag items off the doc? Thanks in advance. From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 01:57:56 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 01:57:56 +0000 Subject: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? In-Reply-To: References: <6177B5B8-47F6-4095-87F8-DC05890B8359@mac-access.net> <33ECADA5-D107-4482-A86C-EDDE2193217B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Bryan I will top post as your message is lengthy. Firstly, Gordon is a very experienced and capable VoiceOver user. He started using it in early 2005 and has never looked back, so to speak. His comments regarding open windows should've been explained earlier. The fact is that he and I often use the same machine in the same session and as you rightly say, open windows are a problem because I have vision to the extent that I can read our Mac's display from the opposite side of a 16x16 room with ease, even when we have it set to the highest possible resolution that our MacBook's display will support. Actually that kind of visual ability is nothing out of the ordinary. But my vision is excellent. Because of the fact that Gordon had a large number of windows open at the time, my own work was invisible until he closed them. That is why he said it is a bad habit of his. Because he is indeed working with somebody who has vision. It is a habit he needs to break; as it frustrates the heck out of me. :) Just joking, but you see the problem. Lynne On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:16, Bryan Smart wrote: > Gordon, as usual, it is about different styles of working. > > For sighted people, I think spaces can really matter. There is only so much room on screen before they start becoming buried in a pile of windows. When that happens, they waste too much time getting back to the right window. > > For blind people that are experienced with VoiceOver, this doesn't matter as much. A hundred windows don't visually affect us. As long as the Mac has enough memory to handle that many windows, there isn't a problem with leaving them open. If you're a new user to VO, and you always switch between windows with command-tab and command-`, then lots of windows can quickly become as frustrating as a sighted user that is dealing with a mass of window clutter. > > However, if you use the Window Chooser or Application Chooser, you can zip directly to any window, even if you have many open at once. The Application Chooser also keeps the mess organized, grouping the windows by application. I do wish, though, that Apple would make it work like regular menus, where, when opened, you can type part of the name of an item to jump directly to it. So, you could open the Application Chooser, type "fin", and have it place you on "Finder". That would really speed up the process! > > You can also use hot spots to jump you between several windows. If you were writing in a document, and had to have lots of Safari windows open for research, you could just set hot spot 1 to be your document, and hot spot 2 to be the web page that you're interacting with the most. That way, you can flip around through many windows to read for your research, but, with a single key, can be right back in your document, ready to write, or back to the main web page that you're reviewing. > > All of these features are handy, but new VO users learn the basics, and so perhaps don't notice all of the other ways that are available for saving them time. I don't think that it is a good idea to burden a new user with many variations of accomplishing the same task, so the basic approaches like command-tab and command-` should rightly be taught when someone is starting out. When they become advanced enough to become bothered with the limitations of working that way, though, they're ready to learn some additional approaches to speed up their computing. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:42 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed that Voice Over jumps around in the Command Tab list? > > Hi James > > On 8 Jan 2011, at 12:06, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> Gordon why is that a shame? Would be nice though if Spaces worked as it should that way we could separate out tasks to different screens. >> > I spoke with somebody at Apple and was told that Spaces does work as intended. I gather that command+tab is not supposed to be used like that. How true that is I don't know. But there you are. > > When I said "To my shame", I try to discipline myself not to leave redundant windows open because they all eat memory and I have noticed that when I have a lot of windows open I see a deterioration in performance. > > I personally don't use Spaces at the moment because the way it works, I simply don't see the advantage for a VoiceOver user. > > When I enquired about the Command+Tab issue in another forum, (Apple and VoiceOver related), I got what I can only call a shirty response from a self-acclaimed "power user", who said, and I quote from his message: > "Why would you want spaces to work that way? You obviously don't have much idea of how to use your Mac". > > Some discussion ensued between him and myself off list, and he eventually stopped responding to messages when I got a bit sick of his self-importance, and I told him so. > > But that's another story entirely, I just hope he doesn't ever become involved in helping the new VoiceOver user. He'd have them taking their Mac back to the Apple Store within 3 minutes judging by the way he treats people. > > Anyway James, I will persist because I happen to agree with you about Spaces. It could, and should, be such a useful application. But I don't understand how you are supposed to use it if not with Command+Tab. > > Gordon > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 02:02:44 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 02:02:44 +0000 Subject: Amateur radio logging programs. In-Reply-To: <3023B243-7B7D-451B-81D4-6ED1C9A450E3@gmail.com> References: <383CF21E-6F1C-4E64-857E-5D8726525826@gmail.com> <1E9625E1-37D5-4C80-B8D1-BA06FBC5EE19@gmail.com> <3023B243-7B7D-451B-81D4-6ED1C9A450E3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1BAB6ED2-BD5C-4FBF-BFD0-10657D43EA71@mac-access.net> Hello Keith On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:17, Keith Reedy wrote: > > ? Ham log does look like it works best for US amateurs, however, Aether will work world wide and although I have not tried it, I think Mac Logger DX will as well. Gordon hates the description of radio amateurs as "Hams". This was discussed actually on another of our groups recently but that is another story. Thank you for the information. When and if Gordon becomes more radio-active, so as my late mum used to call him, we'll see about this. It is useful information to have. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 02:31:25 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 02:31:25 +0000 Subject: Mac-Access@Mac-Access.net In-Reply-To: <60EB0AD9-3215-49D7-92DA-D890246D9D7E@insightbb.com> References: <08D98D4A-AFA8-4284-A641-4E59388D8AE5@insightbb.com> <27D4E0F8-1462-4538-9BDB-652018090036@mac-access.net> <60EB0AD9-3215-49D7-92DA-D890246D9D7E@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <0E400918-CDE8-47CB-B7F6-7A2F1B22D633@mac-access.net> Hello Bill Gordon is now asleep, but if I may I am going to answer on his behalf. When Gordon set up this list, and when I joined the Mac Access Dot Net team in late 2007 or early 2008, It was for precisely those reasons. At the time there weren't as many Mac OS resources as there are available now. And iOS as we know it today didn't exist outside of Apple's strictly controlled and regulated domain. Nevertheless, the desire to help others to help others remains as strong now as it was back then. I am sure that, as you become more experience and familiar with using your device(s), you will begin to understand just what can be done with VoiceOver-enabled devices. I personally do not need to use VoiceOver; but I try to use it quite regularly because Gordon, my other half, is blind and we frequently need to work together on projects with our Macs. One of the beauties of the Mac operating system is the ease with which visually impaired and visually abled people can work together without the need to start rebooting and re-arranging, as happens on Microsoft's platform. Believe it or not, but experienced though he is, Gordon has profited greatly from the knowledge and abilities of others in this group. And I am sure that is true of most, if not all, other members. You don't have to be an expert to help others Bill. If you know the answer to somebody's query please don't hesitate to speak up. Even if you are wrong, I promise you, on behalf of the list owners, Gordon and I, and of our assistant list controllers Anne and James, you wont be the subject of flame mail in this group. So I urge you to participate fully and you may find, as we certainly do, helping others can be just as rewarding, if not more so, than being helped. Although running our groups is sometimes hard work, we do it because we enjoy doing it. Nobody, absolutely nobody; be they novice computer user or skilled application and web developer, is insignificant as far as we are concerned. So please don't be shy on list. We want all members to feel comfortable and appreciated in this group. If anybody does not, we want to know why. Finally, we are not above criticism, as long as it is constructive criticism. So, if you think there is something we could do better, or something which would work better if done in a different way, please contact us via the support address . We can't promise to implement your suggestion; but we can promise you will always get a fair hearing. We will always listen. Lynne On 9 Jan 2011, at 00:37, William Deatherage wrote: > Hi Gordon, > I didn't take the message that way. I realize there is a lot for me to learn and I am having fun doing it. I appreciate the list and everyone it. maybe someday I will be able to help someone else who is where I am now. and I look forward to doing it. From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 02:34:58 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 02:34:58 +0000 Subject: Moving items off the doc In-Reply-To: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> References: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hello Shelly Are you using VoiceOver? If so it's easy. Highlight the item you want to remove from the dock. Press Control+Option+Shift+M to bring up the context menu Cursor down probably just once until you hear "Options" Press the right arrow key to open the list of options. Arrow down until you hear "Remove From Dock" Press Enter. I hope that helps, Lynne On 9 Jan 2011, at 01:41, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > Can someone please provide me with step by step instructions how to drag items off the doc? Thanks in advance. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 02:36:41 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 02:36:41 +0000 Subject: Moving items off the doc In-Reply-To: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> References: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <0E876AF7-1F27-4362-ADA8-C5F79FA6E8C1@gmail.com> Hi Shelly! All you have to do is, sit on the item you want to remove from the doc, then open the menu with vo+shift+m and right arrow once and in that menu are options one of which is remove from doc! Just vo+space bar on that and you are done! hth Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 9 Jan 2011, at 01:41, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > Can someone please provide me with step by step instructions how to drag items off the doc? Thanks in advance. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 04:13:54 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 04:13:54 +0000 Subject: Spaces & different ways of working with Voice Over In-Reply-To: <0230ACEB-7547-4C23-8597-8AEBEC50D44A@mac-access.net> References: <6177B5B8-47F6-4095-87F8-DC05890B8359@mac-access.net> <33ECADA5-D107-4482-A86C-EDDE2193217B@mac-access.net> <0230ACEB-7547-4C23-8597-8AEBEC50D44A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello, this is very interesting, i have only had my mac for four months and i am still learning voice over, i am amazed at what this screen reader can do not ony on the mac but also on the touch screen products. As i get more use to voice over and the o s in genral i hope to start learning more of these tricks to make my user experiance more interesting and forfilling. Ever since getting my mac i am continuasly discovering from this list and other things more supprises that voice over can do. in four months i believe i have come a pritty long way and hope to come further on the journey in to using voice over with my mac. i can now even help my friends with basic queries and i find it very rewarding when i can tell some one the answer to a question. Ian McNamara From n0oxy at charter.net Sun Jan 9 04:51:14 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:51:14 -0600 Subject: Moving items off the doc In-Reply-To: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> References: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <63F2032B-F406-435B-96D1-836B29ABCBD2@charter.net> Hi, sure, once your focus is on the item, press the up or down arrow to open the menu for that item, you will see an item that says options, select that and choose remove from dock. On Jan 8, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > Can someone please provide me with step by step instructions how to drag items off the doc? Thanks in advance. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 05:11:08 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 05:11:08 +0000 Subject: Mac OSX in a virtual machine Message-ID: <87B932AD-AFC3-429D-95D1-7AEBAEFFDA0A@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Well, I've had another bad bad night; and we have to get up soon anyway to make ready for the major network upgrade which is coming our way this morning. Anyway, before I wake Gordon at around 06:00 I am about to try an interesting, (to me, at least) experiment and I wondered whether anybody in the group would be interested in hearing the results. If not, I won't bore you all with it. But I am going to try installing Leopard and Tiger and maybe even another instance of Snow Leopard inside of a Virtual machine using both Fusion and Parallels Desktop v6. VoiceOver will, of course, present a challenge I would imagine, because I really can't see how you could use VoiceOver in both the virtual machine and also the real machine both at the same time. But it will be an interesting challenge. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 05:38:33 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:38:33 -0800 Subject: Spaces & different ways of working with Voice Over In-Reply-To: References: <6177B5B8-47F6-4095-87F8-DC05890B8359@mac-access.net> <33ECADA5-D107-4482-A86C-EDDE2193217B@mac-access.net> <0230ACEB-7547-4C23-8597-8AEBEC50D44A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2F268414-FD98-45E1-8466-0E594E34A071@gmail.com> Actually that's how I've been learning for my podcasts. 3 or 4 lists and about 1000 people giving me a push in the right direction, plus I have a knack for picking up patterns. S On Jan 8, 2011, at 8:13 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hello, this is very interesting, i have only had my mac for four months and i am still learning voice over, i am amazed at what this screen reader can do not ony on the mac but also on the touch screen products. As i get more use to voice over and the o s in genral i hope to start learning more of these tricks to make my user experiance more interesting and forfilling. Ever since getting my mac i am continuasly discovering from this list and other things more supprises that voice over can do. in four months i believe i have come a pritty long way and hope to come further on the journey in to using voice over with my mac. i can now even help my friends with basic queries and i find it very rewarding when i can tell some one the answer to a question. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 9 06:17:23 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 00:17:23 -0600 Subject: app store on the mac Message-ID: What if any apps have been found to be accessible from the new app store? I downloaded the shortcuts for mac app and find it to be fairly easy to navigate. From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 9 07:00:39 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 01:00:39 -0600 Subject: Restore settings with out sound Message-ID: <12128C69-854B-48E8-AAFA-865E1E8799A9@sbcglobal.net> While exploring the sound preferences I some how turned off all sounds including VO. Is there a way to restore settings with out sighted help? I feel real stupid. Sent from my iPhone From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 07:29:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:29:57 -0800 Subject: app store on the mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <469012EE-D929-4017-AEDB-8F8D95E5C5A8@gmail.com> ladiocast seems to be pretty good. I have not used it to its fullest but it looks good. On Jan 8, 2011, at 10:17 PM, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > What if any apps have been found to be accessible from the new app store? > > I downloaded the shortcuts for mac app and find it to be fairly easy to navigate. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 11:49:45 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:49:45 +0000 Subject: Network Upgrade Is Complete Message-ID: <622FD5E0-ED78-48BD-85CE-276022CF263E@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Well, the installation of our new leased line took a little longer than we expected, because we encountered a few complications. Unfortunately, we encountered the usual problem with the engineer; he assumed that, as a visually impaired person, Gordon must be a dummy, and everything has to be done by others. So, for whatever reason, the engineer wouldn't listen to what Gordon was trying to explain to him, and because of that, he couldn't get things to work because he had plugs in the wrong places, and all sorts of things. he eventually asked Gordon "Do you really know how to do this?". Gordon then said "Yes, of course I do. I did the wiring in the first place". So the engineer finally got the message, and stood back and allowed Gordon to handle the routing and connectivity of the extranet cables. Once that happened, all the nasty flashing lights went away and our network and phone lines came back up. Anyway, once the SDSL2+ signal goes live, we will start out on the road down the high speed super-highway. We apologise again for any inconvenience the outage cause you. But this work simply had to be done. All mail intended for our server is currently being delivered via the secondary MX relay, so that should start flowing again shortly. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 12:17:38 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:17:38 +0000 Subject: Gentle Reminder Message-ID: Hello everybody Just a gentle reminder; and I'm as guilty as anybody else here. Could we all please try a little harder to keep our subject lines current. For instance, there is a thread on the group just at the moment whose subject line is "Spaces". But the discussion now has nothing to do with spaces. This comes to be a problem when searching the archives, because you end up having to wade through threads which are totally different from that which you expected. Cooperation would be appreciated. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 12:33:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:33:12 +0000 Subject: Restore settings with out sound In-Reply-To: <12128C69-854B-48E8-AAFA-865E1E8799A9@sbcglobal.net> References: <12128C69-854B-48E8-AAFA-865E1E8799A9@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <50D328AC-6B35-4DCD-9618-803D0C3A443D@mac-access.net> Hello Shelly. First, don't feel stupid. You're not the only person who has made that mistake. Let me try and talk you through this. First of all, press VoiceOver+M to bring up the menu bar. Arrow down 5 times to get to system preferences, and press enter or VoiceOver+Space to activate the item. Press the tab key 15 times and it will take you to Sound. Activate it through VoiceOver+Space bar. The default tab should be Output, so just hit tab again, then cursor down. Your sound should come back, all being well. Lynne On 9 Jan 2011, at 07:00, Shelly wrote: > While exploring the sound preferences I some how turned off all sounds including VO. Is there a way to restore settings with out sighted help? I feel real stupid. > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 13:33:34 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 13:33:34 +0000 Subject: Have made a possible improvement to Voice Over Message-ID: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> Good afternoon listers, While tinkering with Voice Over last night, I accidentally made a slight improvement to Voice Over -well in my opinion anyway. :) It turns out that if you mute the Voice Over sound effects, that Voice Over seems more responsive. This does of course lead to some inconveniences such as not knowing when a page has loaded in Safari if you don't enable the Page Summary or not knowing that a word is misspelled if you use sounds to do that. It would be nice if Apple could give us control over individual sounds for Voice Over and I'm going to write to them with that in mind. To turn off sounds, if anyone is interested, do the following: 1. Open the "Voice Over Utility" with VO+F8 2. Navigate down to "Sounds" 3. Press Tab or use the VO keys to navigate to "Mute Sound Effects" 4. press VO+Space to check the box Take care all James From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 14:31:06 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 14:31:06 +0000 Subject: Have made a possible improvement to Voice Over In-Reply-To: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> References: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3E5982FA-6C90-484E-9A5E-73AF00E71727@mac-access.net> hello James On 9 Jan 2011, at 13:33, James AUSTIN wrote: > ? While tinkering with Voice Over last night, I accidentally made a slight improvement to Voice Over -well in my opinion anyway. :) It turns out that if you mute the Voice Over sound effects, that Voice Over seems more responsive. This does of course lead to some inconveniences such as not knowing when a page has loaded in Safari if you don't enable the Page Summary or not knowing that a word is misspelled if you use sounds to do that. It would be nice if Apple could give us control over individual sounds for Voice Over and I'm going to write to them with that in mind. > As for your improvement, Gordon is saying "Old News". :) When he uses VoiceOver Gordon always has the clicks and pops muted. he just isn't the sort of person who enjoys listening to sound effects when trying to navigate the screen. Lynne From n0oxy at charter.net Sun Jan 9 15:50:15 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 09:50:15 -0600 Subject: using adium In-Reply-To: <63F2032B-F406-435B-96D1-836B29ABCBD2@charter.net> References: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> <63F2032B-F406-435B-96D1-836B29ABCBD2@charter.net> Message-ID: <36442224-344F-474F-B108-82F0D85D548A@charter.net> Hey everyone, is anyone else having problems signing in to MSN or Windows messenger using adium? The last few days I have been unable to do so, it just keeps opening the password window. However, it works fine with windows clients. From helianthe at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 15:56:36 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:56:36 +0100 Subject: using adium In-Reply-To: <36442224-344F-474F-B108-82F0D85D548A@charter.net> References: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> <63F2032B-F406-435B-96D1-836B29ABCBD2@charter.net> <36442224-344F-474F-B108-82F0D85D548A@charter.net> Message-ID: no problem with adium here. On Jan 9, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Hey everyone, is anyone else having problems signing in to MSN or Windows messenger using adium? The last few days I have been unable to do so, it just keeps opening the password window. However, it works fine with windows clients. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 16:10:04 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:10:04 +0000 Subject: using adium In-Reply-To: <36442224-344F-474F-B108-82F0D85D548A@charter.net> References: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> <63F2032B-F406-435B-96D1-836B29ABCBD2@charter.net> <36442224-344F-474F-B108-82F0D85D548A@charter.net> Message-ID: <3FC54033-5FDE-46BC-8B9A-206ECDA537DA@mac-access.net> Hello Mike I just tried it on our system and got strait into MSN, absolutely no problem. Lynne On 9 Jan 2011, at 15:50, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Hey everyone, is anyone else having problems signing in to MSN or Windows messenger using adium? The last few days I have been unable to do so, it just keeps opening the password window. However, it works fine with windows clients. From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 9 16:16:55 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 10:16:55 -0600 Subject: using adium In-Reply-To: <3FC54033-5FDE-46BC-8B9A-206ECDA537DA@mac-access.net> References: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> <63F2032B-F406-435B-96D1-836B29ABCBD2@charter.net> <36442224-344F-474F-B108-82F0D85D548A@charter.net> <3FC54033-5FDE-46BC-8B9A-206ECDA537DA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <00BDADCF-575F-43C8-AF5A-91981196A24E@sbcglobal.net> Speaking of Adiaum, I would like some initial instruction to get started with it. On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Mike > > I just tried it on our system and got strait into MSN, absolutely no problem. > > Lynne > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 15:50, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Hey everyone, is anyone else having problems signing in to MSN or Windows messenger using adium? The last few days I have been unable to do so, it just keeps opening the password window. However, it works fine with windows clients. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Sun Jan 9 16:27:36 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:27:36 -0500 Subject: Mac-Access@Mac-Access.net In-Reply-To: <0E400918-CDE8-47CB-B7F6-7A2F1B22D633@mac-access.net> References: <08D98D4A-AFA8-4284-A641-4E59388D8AE5@insightbb.com> <27D4E0F8-1462-4538-9BDB-652018090036@mac-access.net> <60EB0AD9-3215-49D7-92DA-D890246D9D7E@insightbb.com> <0E400918-CDE8-47CB-B7F6-7A2F1B22D633@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5E5567C5-0E7C-4EA2-9B40-99370F0C9FF9@insightbb.com> hello, thanks for the message re guarding helping others. I am glad to be a part of this list. Bill deatherage From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 16:29:44 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:29:44 +0000 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking Message-ID: Hello everyone, Has anyone else had trouble with an increase in Voice Over refusing to speak when Voice Over's sound effects are disabled? Several times now I've had to use VO+Cmd+F8 to bring speech back. I hope Apple squish this bug soon, it's very annoying. Perhaps I'll try another voice. Thanks Take care James From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 16:01:18 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:01:18 +0000 Subject: Restore settings with out sound In-Reply-To: <50D328AC-6B35-4DCD-9618-803D0C3A443D@mac-access.net> References: <12128C69-854B-48E8-AAFA-865E1E8799A9@sbcglobal.net> <50D328AC-6B35-4DCD-9618-803D0C3A443D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Shelly! Just in case! Do you know if you had the app store in your apple menu? If not then you should just scroll down 4 times to system prefs! Then do as lynne said until you get to output part from there just tab 5 more times then press vo+space, and that should do it! Sorry Lynne I followed your version and where you say down arrow does not take you to sound mute! And I'm not sure if Shelly has the latest os therefore Shelly would not have the app store in the menu! I cannot remember if there was something there instead! Anyway I hope this is of some help! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 9 Jan 2011, at 12:33, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Shelly. > > First, don't feel stupid. You're not the only person who has made that mistake. > > Let me try and talk you through this. First of all, press VoiceOver+M to bring up the menu bar. Arrow down 5 times to get to system preferences, and press enter or VoiceOver+Space to activate the item. > Press the tab key 15 times and it will take you to Sound. Activate it through VoiceOver+Space bar. > > The default tab should be Output, so just hit tab again, then cursor down. Your sound should come back, all being well. > > Lynne > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 07:00, Shelly wrote: > >> While exploring the sound preferences I some how turned off all sounds including VO. Is there a way to restore settings with out sighted help? I feel real stupid. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 9 16:41:43 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 10:41:43 -0600 Subject: creating mail folders Message-ID: <5BE6913C-75B1-46BD-886F-32E9E41F1048@sbcglobal.net> I feel like a kid in a candy store with this list. That being said here is my next question. How can I create a mail folder and then move messages to that folder? From david.mclean at cox.net Sun Jan 9 16:50:04 2011 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:50:04 -0500 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00E778D7-085B-4C76-8187-F24B44CE0D89@cox.net> Interesting. I started using muted sounds at your suggestion this morning but haven't encountered this so far. Will report if it happens though. On Jan 9, 2011, at 11:29 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Has anyone else had trouble with an increase in Voice Over refusing to speak when Voice Over's sound effects are disabled? Several times now I've had to use VO+Cmd+F8 to bring speech back. I hope Apple squish this bug soon, it's very annoying. Perhaps I'll try another voice. > > Thanks > Take care > James > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 17:00:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:00:12 +0000 Subject: using adium In-Reply-To: <00BDADCF-575F-43C8-AF5A-91981196A24E@sbcglobal.net> References: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> <63F2032B-F406-435B-96D1-836B29ABCBD2@charter.net> <36442224-344F-474F-B108-82F0D85D548A@charter.net> <3FC54033-5FDE-46BC-8B9A-206ECDA537DA@mac-access.net> <00BDADCF-575F-43C8-AF5A-91981196A24E@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hello Shelly On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:16, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > ? Speaking of Adiaum, I would like some initial instruction to get started with it. The programme is actually called "Adium". It is not the easiest programme to use for a blind person unless you are able to configure events to speak your messages etc. You have to do a lot of interacting and other navigation with VoiceOver. It isn't the easiest thing to set up for a new Mac user. That all said, we will certainly do our best to help you. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 17:02:44 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:02:44 +0000 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> Hello James On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:29, James AUSTIN wrote: > ? Has anyone else had trouble with an increase in Voice Over refusing to speak when Voice Over's sound effects are disabled? Several times now I've had to use VO+Cmd+F8 to bring speech back. I hope Apple squish this bug soon, it's very annoying. Perhaps I'll try another voice. > This never happens here, and Gordon uses it like that all the time. he has been working on stuff he's preparing for his projects this week all day and has had absolutely no problem. Lyne From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sun Jan 9 17:18:26 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:18:26 +0000 Subject: Playing podcast from VisionAustralia.org Message-ID: <7BB1DE0B-C0D1-4184-AEF7-092A370FCBAC@thejazzden.org.uk> Hello I am trying to play one of the podcasts from visionaustralia.org - a lot of very useful stuff for using VO with the Mac - but am having no success. I go to the link for the podcast and the embedded player shows up, with the '30 seconds back' 'play/pause' buttons and timeline. But when I press the Play button nothing happens, or rather I hear nothing, but te button changes to Pause. This is even after allowing plenty of time for the mp3 to load. I've tried turning VO off when clicking the link in case this was a flash problem but no joy. Any help welcomed. With thanks. From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 17:21:37 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:21:37 -0500 Subject: creating mail folders In-Reply-To: <5BE6913C-75B1-46BD-886F-32E9E41F1048@sbcglobal.net> References: <5BE6913C-75B1-46BD-886F-32E9E41F1048@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: A new mailbox can be created by going into the menu bar to mailbox, and arrowing down to the new mailbox elipsis, and press enter. ONce the new mailbox is created, go into preferences to the rules tab, and there you can create the criteria so the mail you want, such as the mail from this list, will go into that mailbox. Feel free to write with more questions if clarification is needed! Marcy On Jan 9, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > I feel like a kid in a candy store with this list. That being said here is my next question. > > How can I create a mail folder and then move messages to that folder? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 17:22:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:22:57 +0000 Subject: creating mail folders In-Reply-To: <5BE6913C-75B1-46BD-886F-32E9E41F1048@sbcglobal.net> References: <5BE6913C-75B1-46BD-886F-32E9E41F1048@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <81540A94-906F-4696-9151-0CCD8F6F46F8@mac-access.net> Hello Shelly On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:41, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > ? I feel like a kid in a candy store with this list. That being said here is my next question. > I'm glad it is helping you. That's why it is here. > ? How can I create a mail folder and then move messages to that folder? You need to create a mail "Rule" but first, under the Mailbox menu of Mail there is an option to create a new mailbox. There are lots of different types of mailboxes. May I suggest that you might like to buy the Take Control of Apple mail book? We can offer you the book at an 80%discount. You'd learn lots from the Take Control of my mac series. Lynne From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 9 17:33:59 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:33:59 -0600 Subject: creating mail folders In-Reply-To: References: <5BE6913C-75B1-46BD-886F-32E9E41F1048@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: My goal is to be able to have specific folders to which I can move pertinent/informational messages for easy referencing. On Jan 9, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > A new mailbox can be created by going into the menu bar to mailbox, and arrowing down to the new mailbox elipsis, and press enter. > > ONce the new mailbox is created, go into preferences to the rules tab, and there you can create the criteria so the mail you want, such as the mail from this list, will go into that mailbox. > > Feel free to write with more questions if clarification is needed! > > > Marcy > > On Jan 9, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > >> I feel like a kid in a candy store with this list. That being said here is my next question. >> >> How can I create a mail folder and then move messages to that folder? >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 17:37:57 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:37:57 +0000 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> Interesting, does Gordon use System voices or the InfoVox ones? Currently, I'm using InfoVox to see if it makes a difference. Hope Apple squashes this one soon. Take care james On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:29, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> ? Has anyone else had trouble with an increase in Voice Over refusing to speak when Voice Over's sound effects are disabled? Several times now I've had to use VO+Cmd+F8 to bring speech back. I hope Apple squish this bug soon, it's very annoying. Perhaps I'll try another voice. >> > This never happens here, and Gordon uses it like that all the time. he has been working on stuff he's preparing for his projects this week all day and has had absolutely no problem. > > Lyne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Sun Jan 9 17:40:39 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:40:39 -0500 Subject: Mac OSX in a virtual machine In-Reply-To: <87B932AD-AFC3-429D-95D1-7AEBAEFFDA0A@mac-access.net> References: <87B932AD-AFC3-429D-95D1-7AEBAEFFDA0A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <935D6710-72DA-4EDA-84C0-2DF2702FEF51@me.com> Hi Lynne, On Jan 9, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Anyway, before I wake Gordon at around 06:00 I am about to try an interesting, (to me, at least) experiment and I wondered whether anybody in the group would be interested in hearing the results. If not, I won't bore you all with it. > But I am going to try installing Leopard and Tiger and maybe even another instance of Snow Leopard inside of a Virtual machine using both Fusion and Parallels Desktop v6. > VoiceOver will, of course, present a challenge I would imagine, because I really can't see how you could use VoiceOver in both the virtual machine and also the real machine both at the same time. Yes, I would be interested in hearing about this. I am thinking of install and running SL Server under VMWare for learning purposes. I know this configuration is supported but I'm concerned about resource sharing and, as you mentioned, running VO in both the host and client operating systems. Thank you, Bryan From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 17:45:23 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:45:23 +0100 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <824B32DC-16A3-4BEF-8939-DB206F6C86B3@gmail.com> Hello! The bug you are probably referring to only happens when using Mac OS X native voices, and normally not Infovox iVox voices and does not depend on having VoiceOver sounds on or off. It sometimes is just a simple hang, though occasionally you have to kill the process through Terminal to get speech back. Further, this bug has also been around since Mac OS X 10.6.3, and does not currently seem to be fixable. If Apple is working on this, I hope they will find a fix soon. However, no crash reports are being generated as it is not actually a proper crash as such, so that makes it rather difficult to track down. It is also worth noting that it seems to hapen particularly when large aomunts of text are being passed to VOiceOver, such as Terminal output. It also happens on occasion when you are typing with no key echo, without getting speech about your input. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 17:49:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:49:40 +0000 Subject: Now it's my turn to ask a question! Message-ID: Hello everybody Despite the rumpus which a lot of people kicked up over it a couple of weeks ago, I bought us a copy of the Awareness! application. I don't think we have the VoiceOver element yet, so how does one buy it? I think I remember something about an "in-App" purchase. But I personally have never done this. Does this imply that you have to run the application on your iOS device and then somehow buy the add-on from there? Could Gordon do this on his device without help or would I need to do it for him? Thank you. Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 17:50:51 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:50:51 +0000 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: <824B32DC-16A3-4BEF-8939-DB206F6C86B3@gmail.com> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <824B32DC-16A3-4BEF-8939-DB206F6C86B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <52164F88-73D8-4F59-9F5B-544DB6C625AC@mac-access.net> Hi Nic, You are absolutely correct in everything you say. Hopefully Apple will find a fix for this soon. Take care James On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:45, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello! > > The bug you are probably referring to only happens when using Mac OS X native voices, and normally not Infovox iVox voices and does not depend on having VoiceOver sounds on or off. It sometimes is just a simple hang, though occasionally you have to kill the process through Terminal to get speech back. Further, this bug has also been around since Mac OS X 10.6.3, and does not currently seem to be fixable. If Apple is working on this, I hope they will find a fix soon. However, no crash reports are being generated as it is not actually a proper crash as such, so that makes it rather difficult to track down. It is also worth noting that it seems to hapen particularly when large aomunts of text are being passed to VOiceOver, such as Terminal output. It also happens on occasion when you are typing with no key echo, without getting speech about your input. > > Regards, > Nic > > > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 17:42:03 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:42:03 +0000 Subject: Playing podcast from VisionAustralia.org In-Reply-To: <7BB1DE0B-C0D1-4184-AEF7-092A370FCBAC@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <7BB1DE0B-C0D1-4184-AEF7-092A370FCBAC@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <71D40E2B-4BBF-4797-A19F-3A18BCAE99A2@gmail.com> Hi Dennis! Just go to the time line and interact with it and change it a few seconds and hopefully it should start playing! Stop interacting and go and press the back 30 secs button to take it back to the start! It seems you have to do this on most of them! I found one that started playing straight away without me having to do anything! hth Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:18, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello > I am trying to play one of the podcasts from visionaustralia.org - a lot of very useful stuff for using VO with the Mac - but am having no success. > I go to the link for the podcast and the embedded player shows up, with the '30 seconds back' 'play/pause' buttons and timeline. But when I press the Play button nothing happens, or rather I hear nothing, but te button changes to Pause. This is even after allowing plenty of time for the mp3 to load. > I've tried turning VO off when clicking the link in case this was a flash problem but no joy. > Any help welcomed. > With thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 17:52:16 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:52:16 +0000 Subject: creating mail folders In-Reply-To: References: <5BE6913C-75B1-46BD-886F-32E9E41F1048@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9E361D4F-5C7C-4101-BFA1-A60DF7015E7D@mac-access.net> Hello Shelly On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:33, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > ? My goal is to be able to have specific folders to which I can move pertinent/informational messages for easy referencing. In that case it is simple. All you need to do is create a mailbox as Marcy described. Give in a name and off you go. Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 17:52:40 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:52:40 +0000 Subject: Now it's my turn to ask a question! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9B8EA7A4-33FE-4AD8-9328-2C26CC5FC686@mac-access.net> Hi Lynne, When I spoke with Mr. Georgiou I think he said that when the new update comes out, current users would get the VO GUI for free. Take care James On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Despite the rumpus which a lot of people kicked up over it a couple of weeks ago, I bought us a copy of the Awareness! application. I don't think we have the VoiceOver element yet, so how does one buy it? > > I think I remember something about an "in-App" purchase. But I personally have never done this. > > Does this imply that you have to run the application on your iOS device and then somehow buy the add-on from there? > > Could Gordon do this on his device without help or would I need to do it for him? > > Thank you. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 17:53:32 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:53:32 +0000 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> Hi James I use iVox, but I have just tried with Alex as well and I cannot duplicate your problem. Gordon On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:37, James AUSTIN wrote: > Interesting, does Gordon use System voices or the InfoVox ones? Currently, I'm using InfoVox to see if it makes a difference. Hope Apple squashes this one soon. > > Take care > james > On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello James >> >> On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:29, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> ? Has anyone else had trouble with an increase in Voice Over refusing to speak when Voice Over's sound effects are disabled? Several times now I've had to use VO+Cmd+F8 to bring speech back. I hope Apple squish this bug soon, it's very annoying. Perhaps I'll try another voice. >>> >> This never happens here, and Gordon uses it like that all the time. he has been working on stuff he's preparing for his projects this week all day and has had absolutely no problem. >> >> Lyne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 17:56:25 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:56:25 +0000 Subject: Restore settings with out sound In-Reply-To: <12128C69-854B-48E8-AAFA-865E1E8799A9@sbcglobal.net> References: <12128C69-854B-48E8-AAFA-865E1E8799A9@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9729D4C1-9979-498D-AD75-63A62F26D31B@googlemail.com> HI Shelly. Have you tried function and F10. Or if you have not got standard F keys enabled, just press F10 and you should hear a kind of click. Sound will then be back on. Lewis. On 9 Jan 2011, at 07:00, Shelly wrote: > While exploring the sound preferences I some how turned off all sounds including VO. Is there a way to restore settings with out sighted help? I feel real stupid. > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 17:57:33 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:57:33 +0000 Subject: Mac OSX in a virtual machine In-Reply-To: <935D6710-72DA-4EDA-84C0-2DF2702FEF51@me.com> References: <87B932AD-AFC3-429D-95D1-7AEBAEFFDA0A@mac-access.net> <935D6710-72DA-4EDA-84C0-2DF2702FEF51@me.com> Message-ID: <94942FF0-7310-4C46-9302-FA3C103D9127@mac-access.net> Hello Bryan On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:40, Bryan Jones wrote: > ? Yes, I would be interested in hearing about this. I am thinking of install and running SL Server under VMWare for learning purposes. I know this configuration is supported but I'm concerned about resource sharing and, as you mentioned, running VO in both the host and client operating systems. > I tried this morning and it didn't work out well at all with VoiceOver. Even if I turned it off in the real environment, it didn't work at all well. I will continue to play but it isn't usable with VoiceOver. Lynne From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 9 18:00:37 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:00:37 -0600 Subject: creating mail folders In-Reply-To: <9E361D4F-5C7C-4101-BFA1-A60DF7015E7D@mac-access.net> References: <5BE6913C-75B1-46BD-886F-32E9E41F1048@sbcglobal.net> <9E361D4F-5C7C-4101-BFA1-A60DF7015E7D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5AD97056-B679-4F51-82F8-0C955C6C49D6@sbcglobal.net> Is it always necessary to use rules or is there a hot key to move messages? On Jan 9, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Shelly > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:33, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > >> ? My goal is to be able to have specific folders to which I can move pertinent/informational messages for easy referencing. > > > In that case it is simple. All you need to do is create a mailbox as Marcy described. Give in a name and off you go. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 18:07:13 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:07:13 +0000 Subject: Now it's my turn to ask a question! In-Reply-To: <9B8EA7A4-33FE-4AD8-9328-2C26CC5FC686@mac-access.net> References: <9B8EA7A4-33FE-4AD8-9328-2C26CC5FC686@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4F067089-952D-45BC-84F5-4BB3B6A0A80E@mac-access.net> Hello James On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:52, James AUSTIN wrote: > > ? When I spoke with Mr. Georgiou I think he said that when the new update comes out, current users would get the VO GUI for free. > That's not quite what I asked. :) What I was referring too is the VoiceOver compatible version of Awareness. The "in-App" updates how does one install them? is it the same as or similar to a Mac application update? Lynne >> >> I think I remember something about an "in-App" purchase. But I personally have never done this. >> >> Does this imply that you have to run the application on your iOS device and then somehow buy the add-on from there? >> >> Could Gordon do this on his device without help or would I need to do it for him? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Lynne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 18:07:44 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:07:44 +0000 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> Hi Gordon, Thanks for the confirmation. Currently I'm using Heather, and I'm not having the speech problem. Thanks Take care James On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:53, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi James > > I use iVox, but I have just tried with Alex as well and I cannot duplicate your problem. > > Gordon > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:37, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Interesting, does Gordon use System voices or the InfoVox ones? Currently, I'm using InfoVox to see if it makes a difference. Hope Apple squashes this one soon. >> >> Take care >> james >> On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello James >>> >>> On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:29, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> ? Has anyone else had trouble with an increase in Voice Over refusing to speak when Voice Over's sound effects are disabled? Several times now I've had to use VO+Cmd+F8 to bring speech back. I hope Apple squish this bug soon, it's very annoying. Perhaps I'll try another voice. >>>> >>> This never happens here, and Gordon uses it like that all the time. he has been working on stuff he's preparing for his projects this week all day and has had absolutely no problem. >>> >>> Lyne >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 18:08:39 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:08:39 +0000 Subject: creating mail folders In-Reply-To: <5AD97056-B679-4F51-82F8-0C955C6C49D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <5BE6913C-75B1-46BD-886F-32E9E41F1048@sbcglobal.net> <9E361D4F-5C7C-4101-BFA1-A60DF7015E7D@mac-access.net> <5AD97056-B679-4F51-82F8-0C955C6C49D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hello Shelly On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:00, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > Is it always necessary to use rules or is there a hot key to move messages? No, you can move them manually. Lynne From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 18:08:29 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:08:29 +0000 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <13E63796-E172-4BAA-8D56-A3B8812C02A2@googlemail.com> HI. I haven't had that problem either. I've had the usual bug where VoiceOver crashes sometimes, but I haven't had it suddenly disable speech. Regards, Lewis. On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:29, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> ? Has anyone else had trouble with an increase in Voice Over refusing to speak when Voice Over's sound effects are disabled? Several times now I've had to use VO+Cmd+F8 to bring speech back. I hope Apple squish this bug soon, it's very annoying. Perhaps I'll try another voice. >> > This never happens here, and Gordon uses it like that all the time. he has been working on stuff he's preparing for his projects this week all day and has had absolutely no problem. > > Lyne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 18:03:31 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:03:31 +0000 Subject: using adium In-Reply-To: <36442224-344F-474F-B108-82F0D85D548A@charter.net> References: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> <63F2032B-F406-435B-96D1-836B29ABCBD2@charter.net> <36442224-344F-474F-B108-82F0D85D548A@charter.net> Message-ID: <3DAE725E-FA7C-4904-8D57-38DBFA63C5B1@googlemail.com> Hi Mike. I use Adium for MSN all the time and have had no problems, although sometimes it does take a while to connect. Lewis. On 9 Jan 2011, at 15:50, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Hey everyone, is anyone else having problems signing in to MSN or Windows messenger using adium? The last few days I have been unable to do so, it just keeps opening the password window. However, it works fine with windows clients. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 9 18:07:06 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:07:06 -0600 Subject: highlighting text Message-ID: <5463343B-5F8C-4126-AD1E-484D5C9D3B5D@sbcglobal.net> HOw can I highlight text in order to cut and paste? From abreier at kc.rr.com Sun Jan 9 18:14:28 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:14:28 -0600 Subject: creating mail folders References: <5BE6913C-75B1-46BD-886F-32E9E41F1048@sbcglobal.net><9E361D4F-5C7C-4101-BFA1-A60DF7015E7D@mac-access.net><5AD97056-B679-4F51-82F8-0C955C6C49D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: How do you do this? Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: Re: creating mail folders > Hello Shelly > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:00, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > >> Is it always necessary to use rules or is there a hot key to move >> messages? > > No, you can move them manually. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 18:15:50 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:15:50 +0000 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> Hello James On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:07, James AUSTIN wrote: > > ? Thanks for the confirmation. Currently I'm using Heather, and I'm not having the speech problem. > Gordon uses the Rachel voice. Hey; I had better be careful how I phrase that, somebody might get the wrong idea, ;-) I was going to say "Gordon uses Rachel", but, no, I don't think I would allow that somehow! I'm joking, of course. But seriously, Gordon and I both prefer the British voice and he has used the Infobox voices since the very early stages of development and I honestly can't see him changing that unless Apple were to come out with their own voices and make them superior to Infovox, which would be a difficult thing to accomplish. Their Voices sound incredibly realistic and we have actually had friends of mine who heard Rachel talking in another room and they've turned to me and asked "Who is that lady in there with Gordon? Lynne > Thanks > Take care > James > On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:53, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi James >> >> I use iVox, but I have just tried with Alex as well and I cannot duplicate your problem. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:37, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Interesting, does Gordon use System voices or the InfoVox ones? Currently, I'm using InfoVox to see if it makes a difference. Hope Apple squashes this one soon. >>> >>> Take care >>> james >>> On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello James >>>> >>>> On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:29, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> ? Has anyone else had trouble with an increase in Voice Over refusing to speak when Voice Over's sound effects are disabled? Several times now I've had to use VO+Cmd+F8 to bring speech back. I hope Apple squish this bug soon, it's very annoying. Perhaps I'll try another voice. >>>>> >>>> This never happens here, and Gordon uses it like that all the time. he has been working on stuff he's preparing for his projects this week all day and has had absolutely no problem. >>>> >>>> Lyne >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 18:18:33 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:18:33 +0000 Subject: highlighting text In-Reply-To: <5463343B-5F8C-4126-AD1E-484D5C9D3B5D@sbcglobal.net> References: <5463343B-5F8C-4126-AD1E-484D5C9D3B5D@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <2A844E0A-7A06-47DD-935B-E12DD6C0BB22@googlemail.com> Hi Shelly. YOu interact with the text you want to highlight using VO+Shift+Down Arrow. Then use the shift plus right arrow key to select a word or the shift plus down arrow key to highlight a line (at leat I think that's what it does). If you want to highlight all the text, simply press Command+A. to copy press Command+C, and to paste, press Command+V. Hope this helps and feel free to ask any more questions. Regards, Lewis. On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:07, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > HOw can I highlight text in order to cut and paste? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 18:20:08 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:20:08 +0000 Subject: highlighting text In-Reply-To: <5463343B-5F8C-4126-AD1E-484D5C9D3B5D@sbcglobal.net> References: <5463343B-5F8C-4126-AD1E-484D5C9D3B5D@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hello Shelly On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:07, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > HOw can I highlight text in order to cut and paste? To highlight characters, use Shift+right/left. To highlight words, use Option+Shift+Right/left arrow. To highlight a line, or everything to the right of the cursor, use Command+Shift+Right arrow. To copy to clipboard, use Command+C and to cut to clipboard, use Command+X. To paste from clipboard, use Command+V. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 18:22:44 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:22:44 +0000 Subject: creating mail folders In-Reply-To: References: <5BE6913C-75B1-46BD-886F-32E9E41F1048@sbcglobal.net><9E361D4F-5C7C-4101-BFA1-A60DF7015E7D@mac-access.net><5AD97056-B679-4F51-82F8-0C955C6C49D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <30380C5A-2C0B-4656-A27D-2046F372B8CC@mac-access.net> Hello Andrea On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:14, Andrea Breier wrote: > How do you do this? To move a message, put your cursor on the message you want to move. Then use VoiceOver+M to open the menu bar and move to the Message menu. When you get there, cursor down until you come to "Move Message" Hit enter and you'll be prompted to select the mailbox to move the message too. Lynne From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 18:23:28 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:23:28 +0000 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne. Lol ;) The Infobox voices are one of the best set of voices around. I use Vicki as my Default Voice. However, i will eventually buy Infobox. Regards, Lewis. On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:15, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:07, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> ? Thanks for the confirmation. Currently I'm using Heather, and I'm not having the speech problem. >> > Gordon uses the Rachel voice. Hey; I had better be careful how I phrase that, somebody might get the wrong idea, ;-) > > I was going to say "Gordon uses Rachel", but, no, I don't think I would allow that somehow! I'm joking, of course. > > But seriously, Gordon and I both prefer the British voice and he has used the Infobox voices since the very early stages of development and I honestly can't see him changing that unless Apple were to come out with their own voices and make them superior to Infovox, which would be a difficult thing to accomplish. > > Their Voices sound incredibly realistic and we have actually had friends of mine who heard Rachel talking in another room and they've turned to me and asked "Who is that lady in there with Gordon? > > Lynne > >> Thanks >> Take care >> James >> On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:53, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Hi James >>> >>> I use iVox, but I have just tried with Alex as well and I cannot duplicate your problem. >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:37, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Interesting, does Gordon use System voices or the InfoVox ones? Currently, I'm using InfoVox to see if it makes a difference. Hope Apple squashes this one soon. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> james >>>> On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello James >>>>> >>>>> On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:29, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ? Has anyone else had trouble with an increase in Voice Over refusing to speak when Voice Over's sound effects are disabled? Several times now I've had to use VO+Cmd+F8 to bring speech back. I hope Apple squish this bug soon, it's very annoying. Perhaps I'll try another voice. >>>>>> >>>>> This never happens here, and Gordon uses it like that all the time. he has been working on stuff he's preparing for his projects this week all day and has had absolutely no problem. >>>>> >>>>> Lyne >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 18:26:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:26:24 +0000 Subject: highlighting text In-Reply-To: <2A844E0A-7A06-47DD-935B-E12DD6C0BB22@googlemail.com> References: <5463343B-5F8C-4126-AD1E-484D5C9D3B5D@sbcglobal.net> <2A844E0A-7A06-47DD-935B-E12DD6C0BB22@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <39C71B41-21F9-4599-95D5-8B44B443969E@mac-access.net> > ` you want to highlight all the text, simply press Command+A. > to copy press Command+C, and to paste, press Command+V. I just wonder; don't you find the actual operating system commands easier? Sometimes I think people get a little too involved with VoiceOver commands where there is an OS alternative. Just my view, but I know that Gordon always advises people to use the OS functionality if it's available. Lynne From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 18:24:46 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:24:46 +0000 Subject: highlighting text In-Reply-To: References: <5463343B-5F8C-4126-AD1E-484D5C9D3B5D@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <35385D2B-DCE4-4438-8D00-DA33075A67C9@googlemail.com> Hey! I didn't know some of that. cheers Lynne! We learn something new every day! Regards, Lewis. On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:20, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Shelly > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:07, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > >> HOw can I highlight text in order to cut and paste? > > To highlight characters, use Shift+right/left. To highlight words, use Option+Shift+Right/left arrow. To highlight a line, or everything to the right of the cursor, use Command+Shift+Right arrow. > > To copy to clipboard, use Command+C and to cut to clipboard, use Command+X. To paste from clipboard, use Command+V. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 18:28:46 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:28:46 +0000 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1B64A6F8-4EAE-41C8-B5F9-0079C2CFB546@mac-access.net> Hello Lewis On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:23, Lewis Crack wrote: > ? The Infobox voices are one of the best set of voices around. I use Vicki as my Default Voice. > However, i will eventually buy Infobox. You just gave us a good chuckle there. Info Box? It is actually Info Vox, Victor Oscar X-Ray, not Bravo Oscar X-Ray. Just for reference, not picking holes Lewis. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 18:31:04 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:31:04 +0000 Subject: highlighting text In-Reply-To: <35385D2B-DCE4-4438-8D00-DA33075A67C9@googlemail.com> References: <5463343B-5F8C-4126-AD1E-484D5C9D3B5D@sbcglobal.net> <35385D2B-DCE4-4438-8D00-DA33075A67C9@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hello Lewis On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:24, Lewis Crack wrote: > ? Hey! > I didn't know some of that. cheers Lynne! We learn something new every day! I'm learning from Gordon but as I said in a previous message he tries to use those commands rather than the VoiceOver ones where they exist. Lynne From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 9 18:33:43 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:33:43 -0600 Subject: finding text on a web page Message-ID: <59989F95-4BAC-4346-9204-E587780A7ACB@sbcglobal.net> Sorry to make a comparison, but here goes. While at work on my windows PC, I often use a control F as a find command to locate things on a web page. The closest I have been able to get to this on my mac is using the item chooser menu. Is there a easy to use find command. My "thick" head needs step by step instructions. From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 18:46:47 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:46:47 +0000 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: <1B64A6F8-4EAE-41C8-B5F9-0079C2CFB546@mac-access.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <1B64A6F8-4EAE-41C8-B5F9-0079C2CFB546@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne. :) No problem :) I have slight hearing difficulties and sometimes my hearing aids don't quite pick up the "V" and "B" properly! ;) Cheers for the phonetic letters! :) Regards. Lewis. On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Lewis > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:23, Lewis Crack wrote: >> ? The Infobox voices are one of the best set of voices around. I use Vicki as my Default Voice. >> However, i will eventually buy Infobox. > > You just gave us a good chuckle there. Info Box? It is actually Info Vox, Victor Oscar X-Ray, not Bravo Oscar X-Ray. > > Just for reference, not picking holes Lewis. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 18:48:52 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:48:52 +0000 Subject: highlighting text In-Reply-To: References: <5463343B-5F8C-4126-AD1E-484D5C9D3B5D@sbcglobal.net> <35385D2B-DCE4-4438-8D00-DA33075A67C9@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <2C022C72-B880-4390-AFD6-E9906AC90563@googlemail.com> Hi Lynne. That is actually very logical as it means that it enables us to do thins as a sighted person would do them. I love being in the mainstream world! Regards, Lewis. On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:31, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Lewis > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:24, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> ? Hey! >> I didn't know some of that. cheers Lynne! We learn something new every day! > > I'm learning from Gordon but as I said in a previous message he tries to use those commands rather than the VoiceOver ones where they exist. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 18:50:13 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:50:13 +0000 Subject: highlighting text In-Reply-To: <39C71B41-21F9-4599-95D5-8B44B443969E@mac-access.net> References: <5463343B-5F8C-4126-AD1E-484D5C9D3B5D@sbcglobal.net> <2A844E0A-7A06-47DD-935B-E12DD6C0BB22@googlemail.com> <39C71B41-21F9-4599-95D5-8B44B443969E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <561EBB7E-67D7-4A60-9A0F-8AE22DEC3E99@googlemail.com> HI Lynne. I do actually. Less keys to press! Plus, because I want to become a technical support person, I would need to know sighted commands. Regards, Lewis. On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:26, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> ` you want to highlight all the text, simply press Command+A. >> to copy press Command+C, and to paste, press Command+V. > > I just wonder; don't you find the actual operating system commands easier? Sometimes I think people get a little too involved with VoiceOver commands where there is an OS alternative. > > Just my view, but I know that Gordon always advises people to use the OS functionality if it's available. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 9 18:49:33 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:49:33 -0600 Subject: another question about mailboxes Message-ID: <64828B47-199E-4BC5-8EBC-2A65AE218CD9@sbcglobal.net> I have had success in creating folders and moving messages. Now when shift tab from my list of messages to my mailboxes, it puts me in a search. How can I get my list of mailboxes back? Thanks:) From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 19:06:27 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:06:27 +0000 Subject: Further to problem with Voice Over speech cutting out Message-ID: <41B38014-95AF-461D-9AA9-D6FB80413560@mac-access.net> Hello everyone, It appears that the bug only affects the voices that come with Mac OS X. Fortunately, we have a range of InfoVox voices, but hopefully this will get sorted out for those folks who do not currently have them or who prefer using Alex. Take care James From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 19:25:05 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 14:25:05 -0500 Subject: another question about mailboxes In-Reply-To: <64828B47-199E-4BC5-8EBC-2A65AE218CD9@sbcglobal.net> References: <64828B47-199E-4BC5-8EBC-2A65AE218CD9@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4C5F70BB-2EF0-4D33-980F-AACB82B68D31@gmail.com> Look in the view menu. There you will find hide, or show, mailboxes, and the command to do so. Marcy On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > I have had success in creating folders and moving messages. > > Now when shift tab from my list of messages to my mailboxes, it puts me in a search. How can I get my list of mailboxes back? Thanks:) > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From motten53 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 19:29:18 2011 From: motten53 at gmail.com (Mary Otten) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:29:18 -0800 Subject: finding text on a web page In-Reply-To: <59989F95-4BAC-4346-9204-E587780A7ACB@sbcglobal.net> References: <59989F95-4BAC-4346-9204-E587780A7ACB@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Shelly, Control option f is the vo command for finding the first occurrence of your text string on the web page. Press it and type the text string and press enter. For subsequent searches for the same string, press control option g and the vo cursor will move to the next occurrence on the webpage if there is one. Mary Mary Otten motten53 at gmail.com From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 19:34:15 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:34:15 +0000 Subject: finding text on a web page In-Reply-To: <59989F95-4BAC-4346-9204-E587780A7ACB@sbcglobal.net> References: <59989F95-4BAC-4346-9204-E587780A7ACB@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1270578C-64FB-4F5A-9C65-A622DB01A49F@mac-access.net> Hello Shelly On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:33, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > ? Sorry to make a comparison, but here goes. While at work on my windows PC, I often use a control F as a find command to locate things on a web page. The closest I have been able to get to this on my mac is using the item chooser menu. Is there a easy to use find command. I am puzzled; why is the item chooser not easy to use? Yes, there is a find option which, I think, is Command+Shift+F but I hae never tried it personally. Lynne From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jan 9 19:56:09 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:56:09 +0000 Subject: finding text on a web page In-Reply-To: <1270578C-64FB-4F5A-9C65-A622DB01A49F@mac-access.net> References: <59989F95-4BAC-4346-9204-E587780A7ACB@sbcglobal.net> <1270578C-64FB-4F5A-9C65-A622DB01A49F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6F3FC7C9-AF32-41A5-A6FC-956C132BA065@blueyonder.co.uk> As Lynne has already pointed out, to find text on a screen use control + option + F and to jump to the next item or to find the item again, press control + option + g and by holding the shift key and pressing the previous key combinations takes you back a step. Chris On 9 Jan 2011, at 19:34, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Shelly > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:33, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > >> ? Sorry to make a comparison, but here goes. While at work on my windows PC, I often use a control F as a find command to locate things on a web page. The closest I have been able to get to this on my mac is using the item chooser menu. Is there a easy to use find command. > > I am puzzled; why is the item chooser not easy to use? Yes, there is a find option which, I think, is Command+Shift+F but I hae never tried it personally. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simoncavendish at me.com Sun Jan 9 20:43:01 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 20:43:01 +0000 Subject: Some Questions regarding Numbers Message-ID: Hello, I've been trying to find some information on Voiceover and Numbers. I wonder whether there are any shortcut key combinations to help with navigating around a sheet in Numbers. In particular, jumping to the first and last data cell in a row, or top and bottom of the data column, or moving page up or down in a spreadsheet. I was also wondering - since apparently Numbers can read column headings - whether one could define the row in which one's headings are located. Any experiences and info on Voiceover and numbers would be very welcome. Thanks in advance Simon From simoncavendish at me.com Sun Jan 9 20:56:29 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 20:56:29 +0000 Subject: creating mail folders In-Reply-To: <30380C5A-2C0B-4656-A27D-2046F372B8CC@mac-access.net> References: <5BE6913C-75B1-46BD-886F-32E9E41F1048@sbcglobal.net> <9E361D4F-5C7C-4101-BFA1-A60DF7015E7D@mac-access.net> <5AD97056-B679-4F51-82F8-0C955C6C49D6@sbcglobal.net> <30380C5A-2C0B-4656-A27D-2046F372B8CC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: To move a message manually, put your voiceover cursor on the message in the list, then press vo+shift+m to open contextual menu where you wwill find an option to move your message. Choose the mailbox you wish and hit enter. If you want to move another message in the same session, the last folder into which you moved a message will feature in the menu so that you can move another message to it straight away. Simon On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:22, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Andrea > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:14, Andrea Breier wrote: > >> How do you do this? > > To move a message, put your cursor on the message you want to move. Then use VoiceOver+M to open the menu bar and move to the Message menu. When you get there, cursor down until you come to "Move Message" Hit enter and you'll be prompted to select the mailbox to move the message too. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 18:06:49 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:06:49 +0000 Subject: Restore settings with out sound In-Reply-To: <9729D4C1-9979-498D-AD75-63A62F26D31B@googlemail.com> References: <12128C69-854B-48E8-AAFA-865E1E8799A9@sbcglobal.net> <9729D4C1-9979-498D-AD75-63A62F26D31B@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <55E5AF45-AF3C-42F0-BFFD-3D26DBEB50B7@gmail.com> Hi Lewis! Now thats what I'm talking about! Well wicked! Far better than the other way! :] Cheers thanks tar very much! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:56, Lewis Crack wrote: > HI Shelly. > > Have you tried function and F10. > Or if you have not got standard F keys enabled, just press F10 and you should hear a kind of click. > Sound will then be back on. > Lewis. > On 9 Jan 2011, at 07:00, Shelly wrote: > >> While exploring the sound preferences I some how turned off all sounds including VO. Is there a way to restore settings with out sighted help? I feel real stupid. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bryansmart at bryansmart.com Sun Jan 9 21:26:23 2011 From: bryansmart at bryansmart.com (Bryan Smart) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:26:23 -0500 Subject: Have made a possible improvement to Voice Over In-Reply-To: <3E5982FA-6C90-484E-9A5E-73AF00E71727@mac-access.net> References: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> <3E5982FA-6C90-484E-9A5E-73AF00E71727@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I like the extra info from the sound effects, but, like James says, they hurt performance. For some lame reason, Apple forces the VO speech to wait until a sound effect has finished playing before it is able to speak. Since navigating from line to line with the VO cursor is just one of several incredibly common scenarios that begin with a sound effect, and which I perform at least several thousands of times per day, the result is unresponsive speech when doing just about anything. Most people are capable of only accurately listening to a single voice at a time, however, they can easily pick out extremely complicated patterns of sounds while listening to speech. There has been lots of academic and commercial research to back this up. Speech is separated out from audio cues, which the brain processes with an entirely different region of gray matter. As screen reader users, we're naturally a bit more accustomed to processing complex auditory information at a faster rate than the general public, and even the unaccustomed general public is not so auditoraly handicapped that absolutely everything that they hear must be serialized. If they were, then no musicians would be able to sing while improvising with the sound that they're hearing from other instruments. It isn't anything for people to pay attention to the band, for example, at the same time as paying attention to a vocalist. VoiceOver has the most advanced use of non-spoken cues in any screen reader that I've ever used. It's great to know when you've wrapped to the next line, or when text attributes change. However, I don't get to benefit from it, as I can't stand the required quarter to half second pauses that it performs to be sure that I really heard that "cu-click", indicating that I just moved to another line, or the "bub loop", before it starts telling me the name of the window that I already knew had opened. More than a few of us could probably call out 3 and 4 note chords while listening to speech. The pauses make me feel like my brain has frozen for a second. My speech is chattering along at a fast clip, and then, there is this "cu-click", or this overly long pause, a beep, and another overly long pause before speech resumes. In my brain somewhere, I hear echoes of "busy, busy, busy, busy". Seriously. VO on IOS doesn't do this. I'm not sure whether it's due to superior design, or because the speech services on IOS aren't capable of synchronization. I've asked politely for over a year, and know of others that have asked for longer than that. It looks like we're just going to be running without audio cues for the foreseeable future. I don't view this as an annoyance. I view it as a waste of the effort that went in to originally creating the great audio cue support, and a shame that making a change like disabling audio cue synchronization takes so long. Technically, such changes involve a checkbox in the VO Utility to set a flag, and conditional blocks placed around the code that pauses the speech so that it will skip over it if the flag is set. It isn't like this is some big rearchitecting thing. Oh well. Grumble grumble. More time wasted complaining. At least, broken as it is, the audio cues can still be of help to the newbies. Audio cues should be a great way for power users to get additional info that isn't conveyed as efficiently with speech, and to help them get info even faster than with speech alone, but, for now, it's like using hints and help tags. Maybe we'll have a big VO update for 10.7 that fixes this. I don't want to get my hopes up, though. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Have made a possible improvement to Voice Over hello James On 9 Jan 2011, at 13:33, James AUSTIN wrote: > * While tinkering with Voice Over last night, I accidentally made a slight improvement to Voice Over -well in my opinion anyway. :) It turns out that if you mute the Voice Over sound effects, that Voice Over seems more responsive. This does of course lead to some inconveniences such as not knowing when a page has loaded in Safari if you don't enable the Page Summary or not knowing that a word is misspelled if you use sounds to do that. It would be nice if Apple could give us control over individual sounds for Voice Over and I'm going to write to them with that in mind. > As for your improvement, Gordon is saying "Old News". :) When he uses VoiceOver Gordon always has the clicks and pops muted. he just isn't the sort of person who enjoys listening to sound effects when trying to navigate the screen. Lynne _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 21:34:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 13:34:12 -0800 Subject: Have made a possible improvement to Voice Over In-Reply-To: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> References: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Actually for me I noticed that vo hangs a lot more and what I mean by hang is not crash but you have to go in to training mode and back out of it for vo to speak again. I've had 3 of them in the last 15 minutes. S On Jan 9, 2011, at 5:33 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Good afternoon listers, > > While tinkering with Voice Over last night, I accidentally made a slight improvement to Voice Over -well in my opinion anyway. :) It turns out that if you mute the Voice Over sound effects, that Voice Over seems more responsive. This does of course lead to some inconveniences such as not knowing when a page has loaded in Safari if you don't enable the Page Summary or not knowing that a word is misspelled if you use sounds to do that. It would be nice if Apple could give us control over individual sounds for Voice Over and I'm going to write to them with that in mind. > > To turn off sounds, if anyone is interested, do the following: > > 1. Open the "Voice Over Utility" with VO+F8 > 2. Navigate down to "Sounds" > 3. Press Tab or use the VO keys to navigate to "Mute Sound Effects" > 4. press VO+Space to check the box > > Take care all > James > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 21:36:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 13:36:39 -0800 Subject: Restore settings with out sound In-Reply-To: <50D328AC-6B35-4DCD-9618-803D0C3A443D@mac-access.net> References: <12128C69-854B-48E8-AAFA-865E1E8799A9@sbcglobal.net> <50D328AC-6B35-4DCD-9618-803D0C3A443D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <85CE51A8-4E5D-40F2-9377-4617BB5CCE22@gmail.com> Hmm mine is always set to input, my tab that is. I have a script to do this if anyone wants it. they then asign it to a vo command. S On Jan 9, 2011, at 4:33 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Shelly. > > First, don't feel stupid. You're not the only person who has made that mistake. > > Let me try and talk you through this. First of all, press VoiceOver+M to bring up the menu bar. Arrow down 5 times to get to system preferences, and press enter or VoiceOver+Space to activate the item. > Press the tab key 15 times and it will take you to Sound. Activate it through VoiceOver+Space bar. > > The default tab should be Output, so just hit tab again, then cursor down. Your sound should come back, all being well. > > Lynne > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 07:00, Shelly wrote: > >> While exploring the sound preferences I some how turned off all sounds including VO. Is there a way to restore settings with out sighted help? I feel real stupid. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 21:38:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 13:38:40 -0800 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <287558D4-1FB1-4606-BA2D-B242BD8EA032@gmail.com> that bug has been around for about close to a year or more and I've told them and given them diagnostic reports and still nothing. S On Jan 9, 2011, at 9:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Interesting, does Gordon use System voices or the InfoVox ones? Currently, I'm using InfoVox to see if it makes a difference. Hope Apple squashes this one soon. > > Take care > james > On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello James >> >> On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:29, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> ? Has anyone else had trouble with an increase in Voice Over refusing to speak when Voice Over's sound effects are disabled? Several times now I've had to use VO+Cmd+F8 to bring speech back. I hope Apple squish this bug soon, it's very annoying. Perhaps I'll try another voice. >>> >> This never happens here, and Gordon uses it like that all the time. he has been working on stuff he's preparing for his projects this week all day and has had absolutely no problem. >> >> Lyne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 21:39:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 13:39:40 -0800 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking In-Reply-To: <824B32DC-16A3-4BEF-8939-DB206F6C86B3@gmail.com> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <824B32DC-16A3-4BEF-8939-DB206F6C86B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <04C5D00C-FD8A-450E-97BB-83693A57154A@gmail.com> Actually it just happened when I was reading the below messge. I have sounds disabled and it does generate errors in the consol. filter the word voice out and you should find some interesting things to send to apple. S On Jan 9, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello! > > The bug you are probably referring to only happens when using Mac OS X native voices, and normally not Infovox iVox voices and does not depend on having VoiceOver sounds on or off. It sometimes is just a simple hang, though occasionally you have to kill the process through Terminal to get speech back. Further, this bug has also been around since Mac OS X 10.6.3, and does not currently seem to be fixable. If Apple is working on this, I hope they will find a fix soon. However, no crash reports are being generated as it is not actually a proper crash as such, so that makes it rather difficult to track down. It is also worth noting that it seems to hapen particularly when large aomunts of text are being passed to VOiceOver, such as Terminal output. It also happens on occasion when you are typing with no key echo, without getting speech about your input. > > Regards, > Nic > > > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sun Jan 9 19:50:45 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:50:45 +0000 Subject: finding text on a web page In-Reply-To: <1270578C-64FB-4F5A-9C65-A622DB01A49F@mac-access.net> References: <59989F95-4BAC-4346-9204-E587780A7ACB@sbcglobal.net> <1270578C-64FB-4F5A-9C65-A622DB01A49F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Shelly! Just in case you do not know! You can also use the web item rota with the command vo+u this gives you different ways to find stuff on a page! If its on links and you know how the link name starts you just type the first few letters and it will narrow down its suggestions! Useful if there is 963 links for example! There are other options the rota gives you like frames,headings,visited links and others! When in the rota just left or right arrow for the options! hth Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 9 Jan 2011, at 19:34, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Shelly > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:33, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > >> ? Sorry to make a comparison, but here goes. While at work on my windows PC, I often use a control F as a find command to locate things on a web page. The closest I have been able to get to this on my mac is using the item chooser menu. Is there a easy to use find command. > > I am puzzled; why is the item chooser not easy to use? Yes, there is a find option which, I think, is Command+Shift+F but I hae never tried it personally. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 21:49:36 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:49:36 +0000 Subject: Have made a possible improvement to Voice Over In-Reply-To: References: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4C40A5CA-75BA-402E-B411-DE8E999E3E95@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah, You may find that this problem disappears if you can use the InfoVox voices if you have them. Take care James E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) Twitter: lnt2008 On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:34, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually for me I noticed that vo hangs a lot more and what I mean by hang is not crash but you have to go in to training mode and back out of it for vo to speak again. I've had 3 of them in the last 15 minutes. > > S > On Jan 9, 2011, at 5:33 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Good afternoon listers, >> >> While tinkering with Voice Over last night, I accidentally made a slight improvement to Voice Over -well in my opinion anyway. :) It turns out that if you mute the Voice Over sound effects, that Voice Over seems more responsive. This does of course lead to some inconveniences such as not knowing when a page has loaded in Safari if you don't enable the Page Summary or not knowing that a word is misspelled if you use sounds to do that. It would be nice if Apple could give us control over individual sounds for Voice Over and I'm going to write to them with that in mind. >> >> To turn off sounds, if anyone is interested, do the following: >> >> 1. Open the "Voice Over Utility" with VO+F8 >> 2. Navigate down to "Sounds" >> 3. Press Tab or use the VO keys to navigate to "Mute Sound Effects" >> 4. press VO+Space to check the box >> >> Take care all >> James >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 22:14:23 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 14:14:23 -0800 Subject: [aiphone] Verizon to Offer iPhone Users Unlimited Data Message-ID: <02887811-30D7-44CF-8ABD-C6863992F3F6@gmail.com> Wall Street Journal Verizon to Offer iPhone Users Unlimited Data By SPENCER E. ANTE Verizon Wireless will offer unlimited data plans when it starts selling the iPhone, a person familiar with the matter said, providing a key means of distinguishing its service from rival AT&T Inc. New buyers of the Apple Inc. phone on AT&T's network have to choose between one of two data plans, each of which caps the amount that can be used. AT&T did away with its unlimited plan for new subscribers last summer, hoping to gain a measure of control over heavy users and to put itself in a better position to turn rising data use into revenue growth. AT&T's biggest smartphone data plan-two gigabits for $25 a month-is cheaper than Verizon's $30 unlimited plan as long as users don't go over the cap. Still, many subscribers dislike the idea of data caps, according to a survey last year by analysts at Sanford Bernstein. That's in part because megabits aren't as intuitive as minutes. AT&T says its two-gigabit plan would allow subscribers to stream 200 hours of YouTube video a month. AT&T didn't immediately comment. The carrier allowed existing iPhone subscribers to keep their unlimited plans when it made the switch last year. It wasn't clear how long Verizon would offer unlimited plans. Its executives have said repeatedly that the industry needs to move to some form of tiered pricing as data use rises, but for the moment the carrier is sticking with its current data plans. Verizon feels the large investments it has made in its wireless networks over the past few years and investments planned for this year have given it the ability to handle iPhone-type loads. AT&T has acknowledged it was caught by surprise by iPhone users' heavy data consumption. The demand weighed on AT&T's network and caused problems like dropped calls, hurting the carrier's reputation. Verizon's confidence could be tested this year. Analysts think the carrier, which has 93 million subscribers, could sell as many as 12 million iPhones in the first year. Copyright 2010 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved This copy is for your personal, non-commercial use only. Distribution and use of this material are governed by our Subscriber Agreement and by copyright law. For non-personal use or to order multiple copies, please contact Dow Jones Reprints at 1-800-843-0008 or visit www.djreprints.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 22:16:05 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 14:16:05 -0800 Subject: Have made a possible improvement to Voice Over In-Reply-To: <4C40A5CA-75BA-402E-B411-DE8E999E3E95@mac-access.net> References: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> <4C40A5CA-75BA-402E-B411-DE8E999E3E95@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <97F08DE8-A782-41A4-8DC3-899A0EF1CF70@gmail.com> I don't so I'll just keep submitting my diag reports to apple. lol! they have got to squash this bug soon. On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:49 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > You may find that this problem disappears if you can use the InfoVox voices if you have them. > > Take care > James > E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net > Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) > Twitter: lnt2008 > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:34, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually for me I noticed that vo hangs a lot more and what I mean by hang is not crash but you have to go in to training mode and back out of it for vo to speak again. I've had 3 of them in the last 15 minutes. >> >> S >> On Jan 9, 2011, at 5:33 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Good afternoon listers, >>> >>> While tinkering with Voice Over last night, I accidentally made a slight improvement to Voice Over -well in my opinion anyway. :) It turns out that if you mute the Voice Over sound effects, that Voice Over seems more responsive. This does of course lead to some inconveniences such as not knowing when a page has loaded in Safari if you don't enable the Page Summary or not knowing that a word is misspelled if you use sounds to do that. It would be nice if Apple could give us control over individual sounds for Voice Over and I'm going to write to them with that in mind. >>> >>> To turn off sounds, if anyone is interested, do the following: >>> >>> 1. Open the "Voice Over Utility" with VO+F8 >>> 2. Navigate down to "Sounds" >>> 3. Press Tab or use the VO keys to navigate to "Mute Sound Effects" >>> 4. press VO+Space to check the box >>> >>> Take care all >>> James >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 9 22:18:11 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:18:11 +0000 Subject: Have made a possible improvement to Voice Over In-Reply-To: <97F08DE8-A782-41A4-8DC3-899A0EF1CF70@gmail.com> References: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> <4C40A5CA-75BA-402E-B411-DE8E999E3E95@mac-access.net> <97F08DE8-A782-41A4-8DC3-899A0EF1CF70@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, definitely Take care James E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) Twitter: lnt2008 On 9 Jan 2011, at 22:16, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I don't so I'll just keep submitting my diag reports to apple. lol! they have got to squash this bug soon. > On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:49 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> You may find that this problem disappears if you can use the InfoVox voices if you have them. >> >> Take care >> James >> E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net >> Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) >> Twitter: lnt2008 >> >> On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:34, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually for me I noticed that vo hangs a lot more and what I mean by hang is not crash but you have to go in to training mode and back out of it for vo to speak again. I've had 3 of them in the last 15 minutes. >>> >>> S >>> On Jan 9, 2011, at 5:33 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Good afternoon listers, >>>> >>>> While tinkering with Voice Over last night, I accidentally made a slight improvement to Voice Over -well in my opinion anyway. :) It turns out that if you mute the Voice Over sound effects, that Voice Over seems more responsive. This does of course lead to some inconveniences such as not knowing when a page has loaded in Safari if you don't enable the Page Summary or not knowing that a word is misspelled if you use sounds to do that. It would be nice if Apple could give us control over individual sounds for Voice Over and I'm going to write to them with that in mind. >>>> >>>> To turn off sounds, if anyone is interested, do the following: >>>> >>>> 1. Open the "Voice Over Utility" with VO+F8 >>>> 2. Navigate down to "Sounds" >>>> 3. Press Tab or use the VO keys to navigate to "Mute Sound Effects" >>>> 4. press VO+Space to check the box >>>> >>>> Take care all >>>> James >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 9 22:18:52 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 14:18:52 -0800 Subject: Verizon to Offer iPhone Users Unlimited Data: take 2. Message-ID: <465B4B6E-F33B-4442-B8AD-D7D253AEC317@gmail.com> Oops? sorry about that all. I left the reply to address in there. My fault. If you can disregard the last message. sorry all. Ok here we go. Wall Street Journal Verizon to Offer iPhone Users Unlimited Data By SPENCER E. ANTE Verizon Wireless will offer unlimited data plans when it starts selling the iPhone, a person familiar with the matter said, providing a key means of distinguishing its service from rival AT&T Inc. New buyers of the Apple Inc. phone on AT&T's network have to choose between one of two data plans, each of which caps the amount that can be used. AT&T did away with its unlimited plan for new subscribers last summer, hoping to gain a measure of control over heavy users and to put itself in a better position to turn rising data use into revenue growth. AT&T's biggest smartphone data plan-two gigabits for $25 a month-is cheaper than Verizon's $30 unlimited plan as long as users don't go over the cap. Still, many subscribers dislike the idea of data caps, according to a survey last year by analysts at Sanford Bernstein. That's in part because megabits aren't as intuitive as minutes. AT&T says its two-gigabit plan would allow subscribers to stream 200 hours of YouTube video a month. AT&T didn't immediately comment. The carrier allowed existing iPhone subscribers to keep their unlimited plans when it made the switch last year. It wasn't clear how long Verizon would offer unlimited plans. Its executives have said repeatedly that the industry needs to move to some form of tiered pricing as data use rises, but for the moment the carrier is sticking with its current data plans. Verizon feels the large investments it has made in its wireless networks over the past few years and investments planned for this year have given it the ability to handle iPhone-type loads. AT&T has acknowledged it was caught by surprise by iPhone users' heavy data consumption. The demand weighed on AT&T's network and caused problems like dropped calls, hurting the carrier's reputation. Verizon's confidence could be tested this year. Analysts think the carrier, which has 93 million subscribers, could sell as many as 12 million iPhones in the first year. Copyright 2010 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved This copy is for your personal, non-commercial use only. Distribution and use of this material are governed by our Subscriber Agreement and by copyright law. For non-personal use or to order multiple copies, please contact Dow Jones Reprints at 1-800-843-0008 or visit www.djreprints.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 01:05:49 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:05:49 -0800 Subject: Have made a possible improvement to Voice Over In-Reply-To: References: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> <4C40A5CA-75BA-402E-B411-DE8E999E3E95@mac-access.net> <97F08DE8-A782-41A4-8DC3-899A0EF1CF70@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1E29E929-C077-4ED1-8F61-07EE2DE26CF1@gmail.com> Ok. I jsut had it crash on me thorugh out the day about 6 times. Here are my diag reports I will send to apple. Take care all. 1/9/11 1:24:09 PM com.apple.VoiceOver[45492] Sun Jan 9 13:24:09 Sarah-Alawamis-MacBook-Pro.local VoiceOver[45492] : kCGErrorIllegalArgument: _CGSFindSharedWindow: WID 3931 1/9/11 1:24:09 PM com.apple.VoiceOver[45492] Sun Jan 9 13:24:09 Sarah-Alawamis-MacBook-Pro.local VoiceOver[45492] : kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGSGetSharedWindow: Invalid window 1/9/11 1:33:02 PM VoiceOver Quickstart[67634] Can't open input server /Library/InputManagers/QuicKeysIM 1/9/11 1:39:01 PM VoiceOver Quickstart[67730] Can't open input server /Library/InputManagers/QuicKeysIM 1/9/11 3:00:37 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[187] (com.apple.VoiceOver[67983]) Exited: Killed 1/9/11 5:03:29 PM VoiceOver Quickstart[3126] Can't open input server /Library/InputManagers/QuicKeysIM On Jan 9, 2011, at 2:18 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Yes, definitely > Take care > James > > E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) > Twitter: lnt2008 > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 22:16, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I don't so I'll just keep submitting my diag reports to apple. lol! they have got to squash this bug soon. >> On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:49 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> You may find that this problem disappears if you can use the InfoVox voices if you have them. >>> >>> Take care >>> James >>> E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net >>> Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) >>> Twitter: lnt2008 >>> >>> On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:34, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Actually for me I noticed that vo hangs a lot more and what I mean by hang is not crash but you have to go in to training mode and back out of it for vo to speak again. I've had 3 of them in the last 15 minutes. >>>> >>>> S From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Mon Jan 10 02:08:57 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 02:08:57 +0000 Subject: Any tutorials/podcasts or help for dummies on using DJ with VoiceOver Message-ID: <1EB93088-66DA-4B5C-82FD-21A2DA54E508@thejazzden.org.uk> The subject says it all. I can do things by trial and error, see no labels for checkboxes, and would appreciate some help with getting to grips with this software using voiceover, a magic trackpad or perhaps the IPhone DJ remote is the way to go? Thank sin advance. From n0oxy at charter.net Mon Jan 10 02:08:53 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:08:53 -0600 Subject: using adium In-Reply-To: <3DAE725E-FA7C-4904-8D57-38DBFA63C5B1@googlemail.com> References: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> <63F2032B-F406-435B-96D1-836B29ABCBD2@charter.net> <36442224-344F-474F-B108-82F0D85D548A@charter.net> <3DAE725E-FA7C-4904-8D57-38DBFA63C5B1@googlemail.com> Message-ID: I actually got it working, had to reset my password for some reason. On Jan 9, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Mike. > > I use Adium for MSN all the time and have had no problems, although sometimes it does take a while to connect. > Lewis. > On 9 Jan 2011, at 15:50, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Hey everyone, is anyone else having problems signing in to MSN or Windows messenger using adium? The last few days I have been unable to do so, it just keeps opening the password window. However, it works fine with windows clients. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Mon Jan 10 02:10:58 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:10:58 -0600 Subject: finding text on a web page In-Reply-To: <59989F95-4BAC-4346-9204-E587780A7ACB@sbcglobal.net> References: <59989F95-4BAC-4346-9204-E587780A7ACB@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1DA2877F-3FB5-4655-8A00-A3DAA7FA0262@charter.net> Yes, try control option f, the item chooser also works well for finding things. On Jan 9, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > Sorry to make a comparison, but here goes. While at work on my windows PC, I often use a control F as a find command to locate things on a web page. The closest I have been able to get to this on my mac is using the item chooser menu. Is there a easy to use find command. My "thick" head needs step by step instructions. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Jan 10 02:15:36 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:15:36 -0600 Subject: Have made a possible improvement to Voice Over In-Reply-To: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> References: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <11316129-B061-442A-83B8-D57E3844BEB6@softcon.com> The first thing I do when I get on another machine, is to change the default voice on my account from alex to something else, usually fred or bruce, since the alex voice eats so much memory. I find vo much much more responsive after this, especially on machines with low or limited memory. So, you may want to give that a try as well, if you're hunting for ways to speed things a bit. From gordon at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 02:32:47 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 02:32:47 +0000 Subject: Any tutorials/podcasts or help for dummies on using DJ with VoiceOver In-Reply-To: <1EB93088-66DA-4B5C-82FD-21A2DA54E508@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <1EB93088-66DA-4B5C-82FD-21A2DA54E508@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <095236FC-5746-462E-805E-4DC59E2F9107@mac-access.net> Hi Dennis I'd be happy to work with you one-to-one on this is f you like? On Skype or something. Gordon On 10 Jan 2011, at 02:08, Dennis Freedman wrote: > The subject says it all. I can do things by trial and error, see no labels for checkboxes, and would appreciate some help with getting to grips with this software using voiceover, a magic trackpad or perhaps the IPhone DJ remote is the way to go? > Thank sin advance. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Mon Jan 10 03:12:21 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 03:12:21 +0000 Subject: Any tutorials/podcasts or help for dummies on using DJ with VoiceOver In-Reply-To: <095236FC-5746-462E-805E-4DC59E2F9107@mac-access.net> References: <1EB93088-66DA-4B5C-82FD-21A2DA54E508@thejazzden.org.uk> <095236FC-5746-462E-805E-4DC59E2F9107@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Gordon Yes, that would be useful, and much appreciated. I must remind you, though, of my inability sometimes to visualise layouts etc, but am determined to make full use of the IMac from now on. Late afternoon (well, after 4) is best for me - can't skive out of work really before then - or after 8 in the evening but know that's not necessarily best for you. My skype name is djdenjazz and I will look out for you. On 10 Jan 2011, at 02:32, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Dennis > > I'd be happy to work with you one-to-one on this is > f you like? On Skype or something. > > Gordon > > On 10 Jan 2011, at 02:08, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> The subject says it all. I can do things by trial and error, see no labels for checkboxes, and would appreciate some help with getting to grips with this software using voiceover, a magic trackpad or perhaps the IPhone DJ remote is the way to go? >> Thank sin advance. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 03:12:41 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:12:41 -0800 Subject: Have made a possible improvement to Voice Over In-Reply-To: <11316129-B061-442A-83B8-D57E3844BEB6@softcon.com> References: <6A6BF5EA-5E5E-4751-9461-40823EAE071B@mac-access.net> <11316129-B061-442A-83B8-D57E3844BEB6@softcon.com> Message-ID: <89F5E69C-C758-4CCA-889F-ED47AFCAFFE0@gmail.com> yeah good idea. Fred is too quiet though but it works. bruse is ok. S On Jan 9, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > The first thing I do when I get on another machine, is to change the default voice on my account from alex to something else, usually fred or bruce, since the alex voice eats so much memory. I find vo much much more responsive after this, especially on machines with low or limited memory. > So, you may want to give that a try as well, if you're hunting for ways to speed things a bit. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From w9fyi at me.com Mon Jan 10 04:03:30 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:03:30 -0700 Subject: Any tutorials/podcasts or help for dummies on using DJ with VoiceOver In-Reply-To: <095236FC-5746-462E-805E-4DC59E2F9107@mac-access.net> References: <1EB93088-66DA-4B5C-82FD-21A2DA54E508@thejazzden.org.uk> <095236FC-5746-462E-805E-4DC59E2F9107@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <78777CE2-8B9D-49A4-B173-555D26598AA7@me.com> WHat is dj? On Jan 9, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Dennis > > I'd be happy to work with you one-to-one on this is > f you like? On Skype or something. > > Gordon > > On 10 Jan 2011, at 02:08, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> The subject says it all. I can do things by trial and error, see no labels for checkboxes, and would appreciate some help with getting to grips with this software using voiceover, a magic trackpad or perhaps the IPhone DJ remote is the way to go? >> Thank sin advance. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From w9fyi at me.com Mon Jan 10 04:04:49 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:04:49 -0700 Subject: Now it's my turn to ask a question! In-Reply-To: <4F067089-952D-45BC-84F5-4BB3B6A0A80E@mac-access.net> References: <9B8EA7A4-33FE-4AD8-9328-2C26CC5FC686@mac-access.net> <4F067089-952D-45BC-84F5-4BB3B6A0A80E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Lynn, I suspect that you wuld have to run the ap on your IOS device in order to make the purchase. Most of the apps require that when making an in-app purchase. HTH, Justin On Jan 9, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:52, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> ? When I spoke with Mr. Georgiou I think he said that when the new update comes out, current users would get the VO GUI for free. >> > That's not quite what I asked. :) What I was referring too is the VoiceOver compatible version of Awareness. The "in-App" updates how does one install them? is it the same as or similar to a Mac application update? > > Lynne > >>> >>> I think I remember something about an "in-App" purchase. But I personally have never done this. >>> >>> Does this imply that you have to run the application on your iOS device and then somehow buy the add-on from there? >>> >>> Could Gordon do this on his device without help or would I need to do it for him? >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 04:58:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:58:40 -0800 Subject: Zune (finally) supports Macs Message-ID: This might be of some use to someone. I don't own one but still. Read more: http://bit.ly/gOha5O From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Jan 10 07:02:28 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:02:28 +0000 Subject: highlighting text In-Reply-To: <561EBB7E-67D7-4A60-9A0F-8AE22DEC3E99@googlemail.com> References: <5463343B-5F8C-4126-AD1E-484D5C9D3B5D@sbcglobal.net> <2A844E0A-7A06-47DD-935B-E12DD6C0BB22@googlemail.com> <39C71B41-21F9-4599-95D5-8B44B443969E@mac-access.net> <561EBB7E-67D7-4A60-9A0F-8AE22DEC3E99@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <9B6A2489-182B-4ECF-80C7-289737DB870F@googlemail.com> Hello, yep i like to use the os commands if i know it and if there is one available for the thing i want to do. As lewis said i find it immportant to know genral commands then that wasy if i was helping some one sighted do it on the keyboard or some one who did not use voice over i could give them the key stroke. Ian McNamara From anne at anarchie.org.uk Mon Jan 10 08:33:33 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:33:33 +0100 Subject: Some Questions regarding Numbers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <765C56EB-8F40-4BE2-B656-2E528D29B528@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Simon, On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:43, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > > > I've been trying to find some information on Voiceover and Numbers. I wonder whether there are any shortcut key combinations to help with navigating around a sheet in Numbers. In particular, jumping to the first and last data cell in a row, or top and bottom of the data column, or moving page up or down in a spreadsheet. Not as far as I know, which is why I find it best to use Trackpad Commander with Numbers since you can run your finger along a row or up and down a column much more quickly than navigating with VO. > I was also wondering - since apparently Numbers can read column headings - whether one could define the row in which one's headings are located. Any experiences and info on Voiceover and numbers would be very welcome. > I'll send you the noddy little user guide I've made for the basics of Numbers. Cheers, Anne From simoncavendish at me.com Mon Jan 10 08:37:05 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:37:05 +0000 Subject: Some Questions regarding Numbers In-Reply-To: <765C56EB-8F40-4BE2-B656-2E528D29B528@anarchie.org.uk> References: <765C56EB-8F40-4BE2-B656-2E528D29B528@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <34297E3F-80DC-45D7-9F28-F8AE390B1014@me.com> Dear Anne, Thank you for this. I was hoping you might pick up my plea for help. I seemed to remember you were using Numbers. With best wishes Simon On 10 Jan 2011, at 08:33, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Simon, > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:43, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >> >> >> I've been trying to find some information on Voiceover and Numbers. I wonder whether there are any shortcut key combinations to help with navigating around a sheet in Numbers. In particular, jumping to the first and last data cell in a row, or top and bottom of the data column, or moving page up or down in a spreadsheet. > Not as far as I know, which is why I find it best to use Trackpad Commander with Numbers since you can run your finger along a row or up and down a column much more quickly than navigating with VO. > >> I was also wondering - since apparently Numbers can read column headings - whether one could define the row in which one's headings are located. Any experiences and info on Voiceover and numbers would be very welcome. >> > I'll send you the noddy little user guide I've made for the basics of Numbers. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rawoolgrove at btinternet.com Mon Jan 10 15:07:58 2011 From: rawoolgrove at btinternet.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:07:58 -0000 Subject: Some Questions regarding Numbers References: <765C56EB-8F40-4BE2-B656-2E528D29B528@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <2BCC0E9AE1EF4E018BAF23412130B6E5@SamsungNC10> Hi Anne, Could you please send me a copy of this user guide too. Many thanks Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 8:33 AM Subject: Re: Some Questions regarding Numbers > Hello Simon, > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:43, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >> >> >> I've been trying to find some information on Voiceover and Numbers. I >> wonder whether there are any shortcut key combinations to help with >> navigating around a sheet in Numbers. In particular, jumping to the first >> and last data cell in a row, or top and bottom of the data column, or >> moving page up or down in a spreadsheet. > Not as far as I know, which is why I find it best to use Trackpad > Commander with Numbers since you can run your finger along a row or up and > down a column much more quickly than navigating with VO. > >> I was also wondering - since apparently Numbers can read column >> headings - whether one could define the row in which one's headings are >> located. Any experiences and info on Voiceover and numbers would be very >> welcome. >> > I'll send you the noddy little user guide I've made for the basics of > Numbers. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From helianthe at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 16:11:02 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:11:02 +0100 Subject: problem authorizing contacts with adium Message-ID: <1E907F62-E3A2-4C11-85E5-14355D132C23@mac-access.net> Hello listers, Well, the subject line says it all really. I am having trouble accepting requests from contacts on adium. I click on the "authorize" button but still I get a message saying the contact has requested authorization once I turn on adium again. Any idea on how to fix this? Is this a bug in adium or am I doing something wrong here? Thanks for any help you can provide. Lyn & Twinny ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Mon Jan 10 16:24:07 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:24:07 +0000 Subject: problem authorizing contacts with adium In-Reply-To: <1E907F62-E3A2-4C11-85E5-14355D132C23@mac-access.net> References: <1E907F62-E3A2-4C11-85E5-14355D132C23@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lyn. I hav the same issue. the only way I could get round it and that doesn't always work, is to press VO Shift M to go to the menu and select Authorise from there. However, like I said this doesn't always work for me as I still had a request when i sighed in to MSN sometimes. Hope this helps. Lewis. :) On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:11, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > Hello listers, > > Well, the subject line says it all really. I am having trouble accepting requests from contacts on adium. I click on the "authorize" button but still I get a message saying the contact has requested authorization once I turn on adium again. Any idea on how to fix this? Is this a bug in adium or am I doing something wrong here? Thanks for any help you can provide. > > Lyn & Twinny > > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Mon Jan 10 16:28:22 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:28:22 +0100 Subject: VueScan Message-ID: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> Hello everyone, A few days ago, a new version of VueScan was released. It's a vast improvement on recent versions and the auto-repeat feature is back. I've just tested the new VueScan with ABBYY FineReader and the result is beautiful. It does a much better job than Image Capture with FineReader. Cheers, Anne From helianthe at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 16:38:49 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:38:49 +0100 Subject: problem authorizing contacts with adium In-Reply-To: References: <1E907F62-E3A2-4C11-85E5-14355D132C23@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <058E995D-D537-445D-A848-4BE2E8C50419@mac-access.net> Thanks for that Lewis, will give it a go. Take care, Lyn & Twinny On Jan 10, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Lyn. > > I hav the same issue. the only way I could get round it and that doesn't always work, is to press VO Shift M to go to the menu and select Authorise from there. > However, like I said this doesn't always work for me as I still had a request when i sighed in to MSN sometimes. > Hope this helps. > Lewis. :) > On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:11, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > >> Hello listers, >> >> Well, the subject line says it all really. I am having trouble accepting requests from contacts on adium. I click on the "authorize" button but still I get a message saying the contact has requested authorization once I turn on adium again. Any idea on how to fix this? Is this a bug in adium or am I doing something wrong here? Thanks for any help you can provide. >> >> Lyn & Twinny >> >> ********** >> You can contact me in the following ways: >> email: >> helianthe at mac-access.net >> msn: >> lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >> skype: >> keanemaniac >> facebook: >> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >> I am now also on twitter: >> www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >> Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Mon Jan 10 16:51:14 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:51:14 +0000 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <11EBEFD4-28C3-45B8-B95F-F98BDA6BEF73@virginmedia.com> Hi Ann what is this ? If you don't mind me asking I'm new to list and hearing about loads on here Many thanks Jules Sent from my iPod On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:28, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > A few days ago, a new version of VueScan was released. It's a vast improvement on recent versions and the auto-repeat feature is back. > > I've just tested the new VueScan with ABBYY FineReader and the result is beautiful. It does a much better job than Image Capture with FineReader. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simoncavendish at me.com Mon Jan 10 18:26:01 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:26:01 +0000 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <74457C21-A1BE-42F4-BECB-A6C4B634C6E2@me.com> Dear Anne, I tried Vuescan 9 shortly after it had been released and it didn't work at all. I contacted the producer and he said he was aware of it and would try to improve it in the next release. Does your experience suggest that he has already made it compatible with Voiceover? That would be great. I had to revert to the previous version, 8.660. With best wishes Simon On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:28, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > A few days ago, a new version of VueScan was released. It's a vast improvement on recent versions and the auto-repeat feature is back. > > I've just tested the new VueScan with ABBYY FineReader and the result is beautiful. It does a much better job than Image Capture with FineReader. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Mon Jan 10 18:28:50 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:28:50 +0100 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <11EBEFD4-28C3-45B8-B95F-F98BDA6BEF73@virginmedia.com> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <11EBEFD4-28C3-45B8-B95F-F98BDA6BEF73@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <7A194B6B-627F-46C1-A370-8204CD97C8C8@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Jules, VueScan is an application for scanning images. The beauty of it is that it can scan multiple images into one file, and the quality is much better than can be obtained easily using Image Capture. VueScan costs something like $89 for a lifetime license but it's worth it if you scan a lot of books. VueScan can create files in several formats: TIFF, JPG and PDF. I set it to produce TIFF files and set ABBYY FineReader as the default application to open TIFF files. This allows me to streamline the process of scanning and OCR since FineReader is launched automatically once VueScan has finished. Cheers, Anne On 10 Jan 2011, at 17:51, Julie Vaughan wrote: > Hi Ann what is this ? If you don't mind me asking I'm new to list and hearing about loads on here > > Many thanks > > Jules From wagners96 at verizon.net Mon Jan 10 19:01:35 2011 From: wagners96 at verizon.net (Carolyn Wagner) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:01:35 -0500 Subject: Using no sound causes Voice Over to stop speaking: question about pronunciation in InfoBox In-Reply-To: References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Do these Infobox voices provide regional accents, like a british accent? I am curious because when switching languages in VO the pronunciation is correct. For instance, switching from english to italian, there is no adjustment in the pronunciation of the standard voices in VO. Does InfoBox allow for that, and if so how much does it cost? On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Lynne. > Lol ;) > The Infobox voices are one of the best set of voices around. I use Vicki as my Default Voice. > However, i will eventually buy Infobox. > Regards, Lewis. > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:15, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello James >> >> On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:07, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>> ? Thanks for the confirmation. Currently I'm using Heather, and I'm not having the speech problem. >>> >> Gordon uses the Rachel voice. Hey; I had better be careful how I phrase that, somebody might get the wrong idea, ;-) >> >> I was going to say "Gordon uses Rachel", but, no, I don't think I would allow that somehow! I'm joking, of course. >> >> But seriously, Gordon and I both prefer the British voice and he has used the Infobox voices since the very early stages of development and I honestly can't see him changing that unless Apple were to come out with their own voices and make them superior to Infovox, which would be a difficult thing to accomplish. >> >> Their Voices sound incredibly realistic and we have actually had friends of mine who heard Rachel talking in another room and they've turned to me and asked "Who is that lady in there with Gordon? >> >> Lynne >> >>> Thanks >>> Take care >>> James >>> On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:53, Gordon Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hi James >>>> >>>> I use iVox, but I have just tried with Alex as well and I cannot duplicate your problem. >>>> >>>> Gordon >>>> >>>> On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:37, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Interesting, does Gordon use System voices or the InfoVox ones? Currently, I'm using InfoVox to see if it makes a difference. Hope Apple squashes this one soon. >>>>> >>>>> Take care >>>>> james >>>>> On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello James >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:29, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ? Has anyone else had trouble with an increase in Voice Over refusing to speak when Voice Over's sound effects are disabled? Several times now I've had to use VO+Cmd+F8 to bring speech back. I hope Apple squish this bug soon, it's very annoying. Perhaps I'll try another voice. >>>>>>> >>>>>> This never happens here, and Gordon uses it like that all the time. he has been working on stuff he's preparing for his projects this week all day and has had absolutely no problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lyne >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Mon Jan 10 18:59:43 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:59:43 +0000 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <7A194B6B-627F-46C1-A370-8204CD97C8C8@anarchie.org.uk> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <11EBEFD4-28C3-45B8-B95F-F98BDA6BEF73@virginmedia.com> <7A194B6B-627F-46C1-A370-8204CD97C8C8@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <97615129-8504-46DF-BCB0-E607587ED783@virginmedia.com> I ask this because I don't have anyone to read my mail etc ws wondering if it would do that or I'm needing something like that to save me asking people to read it for me thanks for ur message Jules smiley Sent from my iPod On 10 Jan 2011, at 18:28, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Jules, > > VueScan is an application for scanning images. The beauty of it is that it can scan multiple images into one file, and the quality is much better than can be obtained easily using Image Capture. > > VueScan costs something like $89 for a lifetime license but it's worth it if you scan a lot of books. > > VueScan can create files in several formats: TIFF, JPG and PDF. I set it to produce TIFF files and set ABBYY FineReader as the default application to open TIFF files. This allows me to streamline the process of scanning and OCR since FineReader is launched automatically once VueScan has finished. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 10 Jan 2011, at 17:51, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> Hi Ann what is this ? If you don't mind me asking I'm new to list and hearing about loads on here >> >> Many thanks >> >> Jules > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 19:02:44 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:02:44 +0000 Subject: Benefits of Smart Mailboxes Message-ID: <243B9DDE-0176-4FFD-AA79-9B6F725119B1@mac-access.net> Hello everyone, I'm trying to reorganise my messages, as I find that I'm wasting too much time with my current setup. So I'm wondering if someone can explain the benefits of using Smart Mailboxes to me please? I understand the concept, but I'm obviously too stupid and probably missing something really obvious as I cannot quite see their benefits in reorganising messages. Thanks Take care James E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) Twitter: lnt2008 From gordon at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 19:31:10 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:31:10 +0000 Subject: Any tutorials/podcasts or help for dummies on using DJ with VoiceOver In-Reply-To: References: <1EB93088-66DA-4B5C-82FD-21A2DA54E508@thejazzden.org.uk> <095236FC-5746-462E-805E-4DC59E2F9107@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <697669E1-EFC5-47AE-A3BB-59C350123C37@mac-access.net> Hello Dennis I will E-Mail you privately shortly as I have info for you anyway. Gordon On 10 Jan 2011, at 03:12, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello Gordon > Yes, that would be useful, and much appreciated. I must remind you, though, of my inability sometimes to visualise layouts etc, but am determined to make full use of the IMac from now on. > Late afternoon (well, after 4) is best for me - can't skive out of work really before then - or after 8 in the evening but know that's not necessarily best for you. > My skype name is djdenjazz and I will look out for you. > > > On 10 Jan 2011, at 02:32, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi Dennis >> >> I'd be happy to work with you one-to-one on this is >> f you like? On Skype or something. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 10 Jan 2011, at 02:08, Dennis Freedman wrote: >> >>> The subject says it all. I can do things by trial and error, see no labels for checkboxes, and would appreciate some help with getting to grips with this software using voiceover, a magic trackpad or perhaps the IPhone DJ remote is the way to go? >>> Thank sin advance. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 19:33:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:33:24 +0000 Subject: Now it's my turn to ask a question! In-Reply-To: References: <9B8EA7A4-33FE-4AD8-9328-2C26CC5FC686@mac-access.net> <4F067089-952D-45BC-84F5-4BB3B6A0A80E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Justin On 10 Jan 2011, at 04:04, Justin Mann wrote: > ? I suspect that you wuld have to run the ap on your IOS device in order to make the purchase. Most of the apps require that when making an in-app purchase. HTH, Thanks for the confirmation; as I suspected. BTW the answer to the question you asked me in a private E-Mail the other day is yes, the services you wanted are available. Lynne From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Jan 10 19:56:48 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:56:48 +0000 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <97615129-8504-46DF-BCB0-E607587ED783@virginmedia.com> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <11EBEFD4-28C3-45B8-B95F-F98BDA6BEF73@virginmedia.com> <7A194B6B-627F-46C1-A370-8204CD97C8C8@anarchie.org.uk> <97615129-8504-46DF-BCB0-E607587ED783@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <0C356A59-058B-4809-B0EB-FD350F20E5C4@googlemail.com> It sounds really cool but i take it you need some kind of flat bed scannor or something and it works along side that with the abbie fine reader programe. i have to say am thinking of getting something to scan things on the mac with and that sounds good as there are rere times when i can't get a book i want on audio and would be useful to scan the print verssion. Ian McNamara From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 20:08:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:08:58 -0800 Subject: Yet another iOS audio game under development: Captain Dynamite and the Fallen Hero References: Message-ID: <0ADBACF4-4913-4BB4-8CFE-00A0AC0CF4E2@gmail.com> > Hey all, > > > This time it's a rhythm music game based on a superhero story. You're jamming to some awesome orchestrated music. > > Youtube videos are below. > > Please note: In the videos, you'll notice DataGirl is telling the player to hit X, A and B. This is because this game is cross platform, coming out on XBox Live Arcade, PC and iOS. The developer when making these videos happens to be playing on the XBox version. > > Since the developer plans on having XBox achievements, guess what? There's bound to be iOS Game Center achievements for us to get. Here are the links to these awesome videos. > > Chapter 1 (Two Parts): > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csY2cKSTmfI > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeTfu7PfotA > > Chapter 2 (Two parts): > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_TX4MKj0EM > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Oqy453MyKQ > > Also please note that as the story progresses, more events will be added besides up, down, jump, kick and punch and the codes, there will be more of those to remember. Also two difficulty modes, this one is the easiest. > > Definitely will be picking this up for my iPod. > > Orin > orin8722 at gmail.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks > Skype: orin1112 > > > > > __._,_.___ > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic > Messages in this topic (1) > RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 10 > Visit Your Group > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use > . > > __,_._,___ From anne at anarchie.org.uk Mon Jan 10 20:57:29 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:57:29 +0100 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <74457C21-A1BE-42F4-BECB-A6C4B634C6E2@me.com> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <74457C21-A1BE-42F4-BECB-A6C4B634C6E2@me.com> Message-ID: Hello Simon, Ed Hamrick has fixed VueScan to work with VO. It's always a bit slow for the initial setup process, but you only have to do that once and it sticks. I, too, had to revert to an earlier version when he broke it thoroughly. At least when you have a license, it doesn't cost anything to upgrade. I got brilliant results with it today. Cheers, Anne On 10 Jan 2011, at 19:26, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > Dear Anne, > > I tried Vuescan 9 shortly after it had been released and it didn't work at all. I contacted the producer and he said he was aware of it and would try to improve it in the next release. Does your experience suggest that he has already made it compatible with Voiceover? That would be great. I had to revert to the previous version, 8.660. > > With best wishes > > Sim From anne at anarchie.org.uk Mon Jan 10 20:59:11 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:59:11 +0100 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <0C356A59-058B-4809-B0EB-FD350F20E5C4@googlemail.com> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <11EBEFD4-28C3-45B8-B95F-F98BDA6BEF73@virginmedia.com> <7A194B6B-627F-46C1-A370-8204CD97C8C8@anarchie.org.uk> <97615129-8504-46DF-BCB0-E607587ED783@virginmedia.com> <0C356A59-058B-4809-B0EB-FD350F20E5C4@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <50EB955E-6ABD-4332-80D1-01CD6E7B37AE@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Ian, VueScan supports most scanners that work with the Mac. I have two Canon scanners, one is a printer/scanner/copier and the other is a USB portable scanner, the Canon Lide 700F. Cheers, Anne On 10 Jan 2011, at 20:56, Ian McNamara wrote: > It sounds really cool but i take it you need some kind of flat bed scannor or something and it works along side that with the abbie fine reader programe. > > i have to say am thinking of getting something to scan things on the mac with and that sounds good as there are rere times when i can't get a book i want on audio and would be useful to scan the print verssion. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 21:08:54 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:08:54 +0100 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <74457C21-A1BE-42F4-BECB-A6C4B634C6E2@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Anne. Are you using the 32 bit or the 64 bits version. I am glad to hear, that it works now, i tried vuescan 9 a week ago, at that time it did not work. best regards Annie. Sendt fra min iPhone Den 10/01/2011 kl. 21.57 skrev Anne Robertson : > Hello Simon, > > Ed Hamrick has fixed VueScan to work with VO. It's always a bit slow for the initial setup process, but you only have to do that once and it sticks. > > I, too, had to revert to an earlier version when he broke it thoroughly. At least when you have a license, it doesn't cost anything to upgrade. > > I got brilliant results with it today. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > On 10 Jan 2011, at 19:26, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > >> Dear Anne, >> >> I tried Vuescan 9 shortly after it had been released and it didn't work at all. I contacted the producer and he said he was aware of it and would try to improve it in the next release. Does your experience suggest that he has already made it compatible with Voiceover? That would be great. I had to revert to the previous version, 8.660. >> >> With best wishes >> >> Sim > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 21:12:16 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:12:16 +0000 Subject: problem authorizing contacts with adium In-Reply-To: <1E907F62-E3A2-4C11-85E5-14355D132C23@mac-access.net> References: <1E907F62-E3A2-4C11-85E5-14355D132C23@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Os this in MSN or some other chat server? Gordon On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:11, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > Hello listers, > > Well, the subject line says it all really. I am having trouble accepting requests from contacts on adium. I click on the "authorize" button but still I get a message saying the contact has requested authorization once I turn on adium again. Any idea on how to fix this? Is this a bug in adium or am I doing something wrong here? Thanks for any help you can provide. > > Lyn & Twinny > > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 21:15:21 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:15:21 +0000 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Anne On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:28, Anne Robertson wrote: > ? A few days ago, a new version of VueScan was released. It's a vast improvement on recent versions and the auto-repeat feature is back. > GHordon is saying "Excellent, magic!" > ? I've just tested the new VueScan with ABBYY FineReader and the result is beautiful. It does a much better job than Image Capture with FineReader. > It would be difficult to do a worse job than Image Capture and FineReader to be honest. We will go and investigate. Thank you for the information. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 21:18:46 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:18:46 -0800 Subject: problem authorizing contacts with adium In-Reply-To: <058E995D-D537-445D-A848-4BE2E8C50419@mac-access.net> References: <1E907F62-E3A2-4C11-85E5-14355D132C23@mac-access.net> <058E995D-D537-445D-A848-4BE2E8C50419@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6AC8A7E9-4F3B-41B0-A1A3-3659ED4AE124@gmail.com> It's probably on msn's end. sometimes msn can be a bit quirky. s On Jan 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > Thanks for that Lewis, will give it a go. > > Take care, > > Lyn & Twinny > > On Jan 10, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> Hi Lyn. >> >> I hav the same issue. the only way I could get round it and that doesn't always work, is to press VO Shift M to go to the menu and select Authorise from there. >> However, like I said this doesn't always work for me as I still had a request when i sighed in to MSN sometimes. >> Hope this helps. >> Lewis. :) >> On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:11, Lyn & Twinny wrote: >> >>> Hello listers, >>> >>> Well, the subject line says it all really. I am having trouble accepting requests from contacts on adium. I click on the "authorize" button but still I get a message saying the contact has requested authorization once I turn on adium again. Any idea on how to fix this? Is this a bug in adium or am I doing something wrong here? Thanks for any help you can provide. >>> >>> Lyn & Twinny >>> >>> ********** >>> You can contact me in the following ways: >>> email: >>> helianthe at mac-access.net >>> msn: >>> lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >>> skype: >>> keanemaniac >>> facebook: >>> www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >>> I am now also on twitter: >>> www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >>> Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 21:19:16 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:19:16 +0000 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <11EBEFD4-28C3-45B8-B95F-F98BDA6BEF73@virginmedia.com> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <11EBEFD4-28C3-45B8-B95F-F98BDA6BEF73@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <85CFC158-E80E-4894-A3E2-055B9BE3872E@mac-access.net> Hello Julie On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:51, Julie Vaughan wrote: > ? If you don't mind me asking I'm new to list and hearing about loads on here > That's what the list is for Julie, so nobody minds you asking questions one little bit. As I said when I welcomed you, no genuine question is stupid and please feel free to ask. You will not be flamed on this list by anybody. If you are, the flamer will be warned and, if it continues, they will be removed from the group. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 21:22:45 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:22:45 +0000 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <74457C21-A1BE-42F4-BECB-A6C4B634C6E2@me.com> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <74457C21-A1BE-42F4-BECB-A6C4B634C6E2@me.com> Message-ID: Hello Simon On 10 Jan 2011, at 18:26, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > ? I tried Vuescan 9 shortly after it had been released and it didn't work at all. I contacted the producer and he said he was aware of it and would try to improve it in the next release. Does your experience suggest that he has already made it compatible with Voiceover? That would be great. I had to revert to the previous version, 8.660. I'm puzzled. Vuescan has, to the best of my knowledge, always worked with VoiceOver. And Vuescan 9? Maybe we are out of date but our version is 8.663 and it works perfectly with VoiceOver. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 21:24:58 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:24:58 +0000 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> Hello Carolyn Yes, the voices produce native accents and dialects for the language in use. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 21:26:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:26:57 +0000 Subject: Benefits of Smart Mailboxes In-Reply-To: <243B9DDE-0176-4FFD-AA79-9B6F725119B1@mac-access.net> References: <243B9DDE-0176-4FFD-AA79-9B6F725119B1@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <242682B0-6062-49F7-B49D-30F9A5E83DA3@mac-access.net> Hello James This is just our opinion; but we think smart mailboxes are a waste of time. We move all our messages into the right places using conventional mailboxes and simple mail rules. Lynne On 10 Jan 2011, at 19:02, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm trying to reorganise my messages, as I find that I'm wasting too much time with my current setup. So I'm wondering if someone can explain the benefits of using Smart Mailboxes to me please? > I understand the concept, but I'm obviously too stupid and probably missing something really obvious as I cannot quite see their benefits in reorganising messages. > > Thanks > Take care > James > > E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) > Twitter: lnt2008 > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 21:29:35 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:29:35 +0000 Subject: Scanning Solutions In-Reply-To: <0C356A59-058B-4809-B0EB-FD350F20E5C4@googlemail.com> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <11EBEFD4-28C3-45B8-B95F-F98BDA6BEF73@virginmedia.com> <7A194B6B-627F-46C1-A370-8204CD97C8C8@anarchie.org.uk> <97615129-8504-46DF-BCB0-E607587ED783@virginmedia.com> <0C356A59-058B-4809-B0EB-FD350F20E5C4@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <74EA8D86-12C6-4D59-8859-82A1C79784A3@mac-access.net> Hello Ian yes, that's correct. Vuescan and Abbyy Finereader Express are the way to go with your flatbed scanner. of course, some scanners don't require Vuescan to be used because Finereader detects the true Intel drivers. In that instance, the same programme will do the scanning and the OCR. It's worth pointing that out. Lynne On 10 Jan 2011, at 19:56, Ian McNamara wrote: > It sounds really cool but i take it you need some kind of flat bed scannor or something and it works along side that with the abbie fine reader programe. > > i have to say am thinking of getting something to scan things on the mac with and that sounds good as there are rere times when i can't get a book i want on audio and would be useful to scan the print verssion. From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 21:31:54 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:31:54 +0000 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <74457C21-A1BE-42F4-BECB-A6C4B634C6E2@me.com> Message-ID: <1EC2E40D-ED68-4A57-B0D0-63CFA0B380AE@mac-access.net> Hello Anne OK, Simon, please disregard my earlier post; we are obviously out of date as we've been out of the loop for a while. We still use version 8.663 at the moment but we will upgrade. Lynne On 10 Jan 2011, at 20:57, Anne Robertson wrote: > > ? Ed Hamrick has fixed VueScan to work with VO. It's always a bit slow for the initial setup process, but you only have to do that once and it sticks. > > I, too, had to revert to an earlier version when he broke it thoroughly. At least when you have a license, it doesn't cost anything to upgrade. > > I got brilliant results with it today. From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 21:33:18 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:33:18 +0000 Subject: Benefits of Smart Mailboxes In-Reply-To: <242682B0-6062-49F7-B49D-30F9A5E83DA3@mac-access.net> References: <243B9DDE-0176-4FFD-AA79-9B6F725119B1@mac-access.net> <242682B0-6062-49F7-B49D-30F9A5E83DA3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <39626C02-FF36-4D15-9D69-4B7AFFCC3CC6@mac-access.net> Hello Lynne, On 10 Jan 2011, at 21:26, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > This is just our opinion; but we think smart mailboxes are a waste of time. We move all our messages into the right places using conventional mailboxes and simple mail rules. Thank you for the opinion, it's always good to get a range of opinion. I do like the traditional message rules, but I wanted to experiment to see if I could find a better way of organising messages. I think that Smart Mailboxes do have their place, but I'm not sure they work for me in general organising of mail messages. Perhaps I'm missing something obvious but we will see. Having said that though, I do think that creating Smart Mailboxes is quicker than defining message rules, but again, maybe that's just me. :) Thanks again Take care James > Hello James > > This is just our opinion; but we think smart mailboxes are a waste of time. We move all our messages into the right places using conventional mailboxes and simple mail rules. > > Lynne > > On 10 Jan 2011, at 19:02, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I'm trying to reorganise my messages, as I find that I'm wasting too much time with my current setup. So I'm wondering if someone can explain the benefits of using Smart Mailboxes to me please? >> I understand the concept, but I'm obviously too stupid and probably missing something really obvious as I cannot quite see their benefits in reorganising messages. >> >> Thanks >> Take care >> James >> >> E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net >> MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com >> Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) >> Twitter: lnt2008 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 21:33:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:33:27 -0800 Subject: Benefits of Smart Mailboxes In-Reply-To: <242682B0-6062-49F7-B49D-30F9A5E83DA3@mac-access.net> References: <243B9DDE-0176-4FFD-AA79-9B6F725119B1@mac-access.net> <242682B0-6062-49F7-B49D-30F9A5E83DA3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <152CE1D6-3A5D-483C-8C14-AFA613E2C7CA@gmail.com> Yeha I agree. a good consept but if I delete what ever is in the smart mailbox they are still in the original folders. Take care. S On Jan 10, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > This is just our opinion; but we think smart mailboxes are a waste of time. We move all our messages into the right places using conventional mailboxes and simple mail rules. > > Lynne > > On 10 Jan 2011, at 19:02, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I'm trying to reorganise my messages, as I find that I'm wasting too much time with my current setup. So I'm wondering if someone can explain the benefits of using Smart Mailboxes to me please? >> I understand the concept, but I'm obviously too stupid and probably missing something really obvious as I cannot quite see their benefits in reorganising messages. >> >> Thanks >> Take care >> James >> >> E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net >> MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com >> Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) >> Twitter: lnt2008 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 10 22:03:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:03:12 +0000 Subject: Benefits of Smart Mailboxes In-Reply-To: <39626C02-FF36-4D15-9D69-4B7AFFCC3CC6@mac-access.net> References: <243B9DDE-0176-4FFD-AA79-9B6F725119B1@mac-access.net> <242682B0-6062-49F7-B49D-30F9A5E83DA3@mac-access.net> <39626C02-FF36-4D15-9D69-4B7AFFCC3CC6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello James As Gordon would say, whatever floats your boat. I can only say this, if it ain't broken, don't fix it! I know you've been fighting with this problem for a while but in truth I don't see the problem with defining rules whicn, after all, can be just as flexible, if not more so. Which ever way you do this thing, good luck. I hope it works for you. Lynne On 10 Jan 2011, at 21:33, James AUSTIN wrote: > Thank you for the opinion, it's always good to get a range of opinion. I do like the traditional message rules, but I wanted to experiment to see if I could find a better way of organising messages. I think that Smart Mailboxes do have their place, but I'm not sure they work for me in general organising of mail messages. Perhaps I'm missing something obvious but we will see. Having said that though, I do think that creating Smart Mailboxes is quicker than defining message rules, but again, maybe that's just me. :) From anne at anarchie.org.uk Mon Jan 10 22:47:53 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 23:47:53 +0100 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <74457C21-A1BE-42F4-BECB-A6C4B634C6E2@me.com> Message-ID: <8A952428-DAD1-403B-B4FC-1E241403BE57@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Annie, I actually have both the 32 and the 64 bit versions as one of my scanners has no 64-bit driver. The 32-bit version is quite a lot slower than the 64, but the results are very similar. I just renamed the applications in my Applications folder to show which is which, so that I can choose the appropriate version for each scanner. Cheers, Anne On 10 Jan 2011, at 22:08, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Anne. > > Are you using the 32 bit or the 64 bits version. From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 22:50:28 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:50:28 -0800 Subject: sometimes the reader is dimmed Message-ID: Hello. sometimes the reader is dimmed that is I cannot read the article and skip the adds. Here is an example sight. http://www.securitynewsdaily.com/new-cybersecurity-threats-0403/ I have to go past the adds and stuff jut to find the article. what's going on? Thanks. Sarah Alawami MSN: marrie12 at gmail.com Website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com podcast mobile http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile From anne at anarchie.org.uk Mon Jan 10 22:51:18 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 23:51:18 +0100 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Lynne, There's a new 64-bit version of VueScan released today. I know you have a Canon Lide 700F and I can tell you that the brand-new version works beautifully with that scanner. I just scanned a page of a book and it was perfect! Archie also had a look at the output and couldn't spot a single error. It was a text containing some very difficult biological terms. Cheers, Anne From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Mon Jan 10 22:54:20 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:54:20 +0000 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <85CFC158-E80E-4894-A3E2-055B9BE3872E@mac-access.net> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <11EBEFD4-28C3-45B8-B95F-F98BDA6BEF73@virginmedia.com> <85CFC158-E80E-4894-A3E2-055B9BE3872E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9C2F69C8-4762-4F96-8289-A158B7BBB744@virginmedia.com> Ah thanks Lynn just feel bit thick sometimes lol I do have friends on here who help me process some of the posts smiley Sent from my iPod On 10 Jan 2011, at 21:19, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" wrote: > Hello Julie > > On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:51, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> ? If you don't mind me asking I'm new to list and hearing about loads on here >> > That's what the list is for Julie, so nobody minds you asking questions one little bit. As I said when I welcomed you, no genuine question is stupid and please feel free to ask. You will not be flamed on this list by anybody. If you are, the flamer will be warned and, if it continues, they will be removed from the group. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 23:13:55 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:13:55 -0800 Subject: VLC iOS developers respond to app's removal: Message-ID: <5E0BAA86-2758-4486-AAFD-F3B3573B08E9@gmail.com> I'm getting 2 sides of the story. Is it Nokia that made the dev remove the app or the dev that removed the app on his own accord? read more: http://tinyurl.com/4e5jdoh From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jan 11 00:02:41 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:02:41 -0400 Subject: Navigon question Message-ID: Hi Folks: Is there a way to configure Navigon to announce street names while driving? Thanks all over the place gang. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 00:15:16 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:15:16 -0800 Subject: Navigon question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77727915-EBA3-4141-88EF-81EB706AD235@gmail.com> Yeah it should do it automitically. Good luck. On Jan 10, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Is there a way to configure Navigon to announce street names while driving? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jan 11 00:20:33 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:20:33 -0400 Subject: Navigon question In-Reply-To: <77727915-EBA3-4141-88EF-81EB706AD235@gmail.com> References: <77727915-EBA3-4141-88EF-81EB706AD235@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello: I canobtain turn by turn voice output; however, not with street names. Thanks. On 2011-01-10, at 8:15 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yeah it should do it automitically. > > Good luck. > On Jan 10, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> Is there a way to configure Navigon to announce street names while driving? >> >> Thanks all over the place gang. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 00:23:35 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:23:35 -0800 Subject: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple Message-ID: Will this hurt or hinder apple, at&t or both? read more: http://bit.ly/fCCxOo From david.mclean at cox.net Tue Jan 11 00:39:31 2011 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:39:31 -0500 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> Lynne, Do you have the Ivox application that has all the voices or did you manage to buy a single voice? From the website it didn't appear that it is possible to buy just one voice although I could have missed it. There are a couple of voices I'm interested in b ut I can't see wasting the money on all of them. Tahnks for any info. Dave On Jan 10, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Carolyn > > Yes, the voices produce native accents and dialects for the language in use. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Tue Jan 11 01:14:18 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:14:18 -0600 Subject: Navigon question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00690DE9-D205-4F7D-BF81-53315A2BA0B3@charter.net> You mean to announce them as you pass them, or during a root when you need to turn? Normally it will tell you what street to turn on, it does not announce streets as you pass them the way way finder and the sendero products do. On Jan 10, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Is there a way to configure Navigon to announce street names while driving? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Tue Jan 11 01:15:27 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:15:27 -0600 Subject: Navigon question In-Reply-To: References: <77727915-EBA3-4141-88EF-81EB706AD235@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9AA6AEAA-A425-45AE-B57F-6830992FEC34@charter.net> Ok, go in to settings, there's an option there for what voice to use, change it to use the tts voice. On Jan 10, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hello: > > I canobtain turn by turn voice output; however, not with street names. > > Thanks. > > On 2011-01-10, at 8:15 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Yeah it should do it automitically. >> >> Good luck. >> On Jan 10, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> Is there a way to configure Navigon to announce street names while driving? >>> >>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 11 04:38:02 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:38:02 -0600 Subject: Email Message-ID: <38B3BD61-F401-4DB9-B1C1-20231906F9E4@sbcglobal.net> Is there a way that I could here the subject of an Email before the sender while going through my in box? From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jan 11 05:39:29 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:39:29 +0000 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <9C2F69C8-4762-4F96-8289-A158B7BBB744@virginmedia.com> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <11EBEFD4-28C3-45B8-B95F-F98BDA6BEF73@virginmedia.com> <85CFC158-E80E-4894-A3E2-055B9BE3872E@mac-access.net> <9C2F69C8-4762-4F96-8289-A158B7BBB744@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: exactly, this is a brilliant list and when i first game on i was sending some times ten questions a day even simple things like how to navegate from one folder to another. how ever once i got more of a clear understanding to how the basics of the mac worked i started to teach my self by trying things out. I have found that i can experement more on the mac than i could onwindows as with the mac there is less chance of something mucking up because of the way the o s works and the logic of the names of things. i even got a complement from one of my american friends a few weeks a go she said i'm one of the best newbie mac users she knows, i still can't believe how i graspt the mac much quicker than windows. nothing wrong with asking questions even if it sounds stupid to you people won't mind answering them and if there's something you don't understand that i do just ask and i will put the terms simpoler for you smiley. Ho by the way thank you james for directing me to this list every one is so helpful on here and although i don't post an awful lot i have learned some interesting tips. Ian McNamara From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Jan 11 07:35:01 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 08:35:01 +0100 Subject: Email In-Reply-To: <38B3BD61-F401-4DB9-B1C1-20231906F9E4@sbcglobal.net> References: <38B3BD61-F401-4DB9-B1C1-20231906F9E4@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <82F9AC53-1DA3-4E99-917D-ADF56187138F@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Shelly, If you interact with the Message table, you can just select which column to look at by using VO and the left and right arrow keys, then just the down arrow to go down the column you've selected. Cheers, Anne On 11 Jan 2011, at 05:38, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > Is there a way that I could here the subject of an Email before the sender while going through my in box? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 08:18:18 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:18:18 +0100 Subject: MacBook Battery Condition question Message-ID: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> Hey guys, I have one simple question. Just two days ago, the condition of my Macbook battery changed from "Normal" to "Service Battery". I wanted to take it to an authorized service provider but they were all closed for the weekend. It no longer shows this warning as of Monday. Do you think I should still bring it in just in case? My own logic dictates that I should, in case that the report is wrong. Thanks in advance. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From simoncavendish at me.com Tue Jan 11 09:41:44 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:41:44 +0000 Subject: Safari gets stuck on some webpages Message-ID: <6A0457AD-C257-4FBB-B41C-72AF9E5613DC@me.com> Hello, Has anybody noticed that the most recent Safari often gets stuck on some web pages Voiceover alternately reports busy/ready? This happens frequently on Apple website. For instance, I was doing Apple's own survey yesterday and almost every time I moved to another page, Safari behaved in that fashion. I also have this problem when doing internet banking. The only solution I have for this is to off-load Voiceover and load it again with command+f5. This is quite annoying and I wonder whether I should report it to accessibility. It used to happen beforre but I have noticed that it has become more frequent with the most recent update to Safari. Can anyone on the list confirm their experience? I don't want to make a fuss about just one instance. Thank you. Simon From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jan 11 11:34:01 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 07:34:01 -0400 Subject: Navigon question References: <77727915-EBA3-4141-88EF-81EB706AD235@gmail.com> <9AA6AEAA-A425-45AE-B57F-6830992FEC34@charter.net> Message-ID: <7AE150057AD844369CBED1E2593DFD65@CNIBnotebook> Hey Mike: Thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Arrigo" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:15 PM Subject: Re: Navigon question > Ok, go in to settings, there's an option there for what voice to use, > change it to use the tts voice. > On Jan 10, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> I canobtain turn by turn voice output; however, not with street names. >> >> Thanks. >> >> On 2011-01-10, at 8:15 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Yeah it should do it automitically. >>> >>> Good luck. >>> On Jan 10, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks: >>>> >>>> Is there a way to configure Navigon to announce street names while >>>> driving? >>>> >>>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 11:35:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:35:57 +0000 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <022AAD83-B39C-4614-9539-64B86C118D7B@mac-access.net> Hello Ann e On 10 Jan 2011, at 22:51, Anne Robertson wrote: > ? There's a new 64-bit version of VueScan released today. I know you have a Canon Lide 700F and I can tell you that the brand-new version works beautifully with that scanner. I just scanned a page of a book and it was perfect! Archie also had a look at the output and couldn't spot a single error. It was a text containing some very difficult biological terms. > Fantastic! I will grab that later today and install it. I need to write you privately actually as I have news for you; and it isn't good! Lynne > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 11:55:06 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:55:06 +0000 Subject: VueScan In-Reply-To: <9C2F69C8-4762-4F96-8289-A158B7BBB744@virginmedia.com> References: <29BCB38E-A0F1-4A85-9E4D-D21593FCF570@anarchie.org.uk> <11EBEFD4-28C3-45B8-B95F-F98BDA6BEF73@virginmedia.com> <85CFC158-E80E-4894-A3E2-055B9BE3872E@mac-access.net> <9C2F69C8-4762-4F96-8289-A158B7BBB744@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <404A907B-EB6D-4E2A-A085-A5FD667919D6@mac-access.net> Hello Julie On 10 Jan 2011, at 22:54, Julie Vaughan wrote: > Ah thanks Lynn just feel bit thick sometimes lol I do have friends on here who help me process some of the posts smiley > Please don't ever feel thick, stupid, inferior, inhibited, patronised or overwhelmed by what happens on this list. This list is, and will always be, a friendly place and if somebody has a problem understanding the procedure of doing something, we want them to come back and say so; not just sit on their hands and say nothing, or, definitely, walk away. If ever there comes a time when this list ceases to be that friendly community, we will shut it down; it really is as simple as that. We will do everything in our power to avoid that; but if it does happen, it will be closed. So, Julie and all; please don't be afraid to ask questions. That is why the group is here. The beginning of wisdom is "I do not know". So those of us who are not so already, let's get wise! Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 11:58:08 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:58:08 +0000 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> Message-ID: Hello David On 11 Jan 2011, at 00:39, David McLean wrote: > ? Lynne, Do you have the Ivox application that has all the voices or did you manage to buy a single voice? From the website it didn't appear that it is possible to buy just one voice although I could have missed it. There are a couple of voices I'm interested in b ut I can't see wasting the money on all of them. Tahnks for any info. When you buy iVox, it is on a language pack basis. You get all the voices for that language. Heather, the American voice, is included free with every language pack. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 12:09:01 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:09:01 +0000 Subject: MacBook Battery Condition question In-Reply-To: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> References: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> Hello Nic This happened to us as well. We left it, and a week later the battery died. Fortunately it was still under guarantee; but I'd take it if I were you. Lynne On 11 Jan 2011, at 08:18, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hey guys, > > I have one simple question. > > Just two days ago, the condition of my Macbook battery changed from "Normal" to "Service Battery". I wanted to take it to an authorized service provider but they were all closed for the weekend. It no longer shows this warning as of Monday. > > Do you think I should still bring it in just in case? My own logic dictates that I should, in case that the report is wrong. > > Thanks in advance. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Tue Jan 11 12:10:20 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:10:20 +0000 Subject: Safari gets stuck on some webpages In-Reply-To: <6A0457AD-C257-4FBB-B41C-72AF9E5613DC@me.com> References: <6A0457AD-C257-4FBB-B41C-72AF9E5613DC@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Simon! Ok someone once said that if you change from either dom to group or vice versor that might help with some sites! Thats presuming you have not already tried that of course! :] And just in case you do not know how to do this open vo+hh and scroll down to web and right arrow then scroll to the bottom and you will find it there, then just vo+space bar on it and it will tell you its changed! Then repeat to change back! I've got a keyboard shortcut set up to do this! So if I have to I just need to press right option+z and the same to go back! Anyway I hope this is of some help! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 11 Jan 2011, at 09:41, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > Hello, > > Has anybody noticed that the most recent Safari often gets stuck on some web pages Voiceover alternately reports busy/ready? This happens frequently on Apple website. For instance, I was doing Apple's own survey yesterday and almost every time I moved to another page, Safari behaved in that fashion. I also have this problem when doing internet banking. The only solution I have for this is to off-load Voiceover and load it again with command+f5. This is quite annoying and I wonder whether I should report it to accessibility. It used to happen before but I have noticed that it has become more frequent with the most recent update to Safari. Can anyone on the list confirm their experience? I don't want to make a fuss about just one instance. > > Thank you. > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 12:17:53 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:17:53 +0100 Subject: MacBook Battery Condition question In-Reply-To: <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> References: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Lynne, Thanks a lot for your response. i'd rather not have that happen to my MacBook just yet. I've only had it Since August 1 2009, which is why I think its condition sounds a bit peculiar. I'll take it, though, just in case. :) Again, thank you. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > This happened to us as well. We left it, and a week later the battery died. > > Fortunately it was still under guarantee; but I'd take it if I were you. > > Lynne > From simoncavendish at me.com Tue Jan 11 12:29:03 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:29:03 +0000 Subject: Safari gets stuck on some webpages In-Reply-To: References: <6A0457AD-C257-4FBB-B41C-72AF9E5613DC@me.com> Message-ID: <413D43EB-7499-4E7A-97CC-09BA10BE1C7A@me.com> Thanks, Colin, I shall give it a go. Could you describe in steps, how you have assigned the shortcut to this operation? Many thanks, Simon On 11 Jan 2011, at 12:10, Colin M wrote: > Hi Simon! > Ok someone once said that if you change from either dom to group or vice versor that might help with some sites! > Thats presuming you have not already tried that of course! :] > And just in case you do not know how to do this open vo+hh and scroll down to web and right arrow then scroll to the bottom and you will find it there, then just vo+space bar on it and it will tell you its changed! > Then repeat to change back! > I've got a keyboard shortcut set up to do this! > So if I have to I just need to press right option+z and the same to go back! > Anyway I hope this is of some help! > Colin > I'm far too bad for Heaven! > The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! > > On 11 Jan 2011, at 09:41, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Has anybody noticed that the most recent Safari often gets stuck on some web pages Voiceover alternately reports busy/ready? This happens frequently on Apple website. For instance, I was doing Apple's own survey yesterday and almost every time I moved to another page, Safari behaved in that fashion. I also have this problem when doing internet banking. The only solution I have for this is to off-load Voiceover and load it again with command+f5. This is quite annoying and I wonder whether I should report it to accessibility. It used to happen before but I have noticed that it has become more frequent with the most recent update to Safari. Can anyone on the list confirm their experience? I don't want to make a fuss about just one instance. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 13:17:26 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:17:26 +0000 Subject: MacBook Battery Condition question In-Reply-To: References: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Nic On 11 Jan 2011, at 12:17, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > ? i'd rather not have that happen to my MacBook just yet. I've only had it Since August 1 2009, which is why I think its condition sounds a bit peculiar. I'll take it, though, just in case. :) I was just responding based on our experience; I'm by no means an expert in these things. I hope you get it sorted, even if it means they give you a new battery. There was a time when a fault was discovered in a lot of the batteries that were shipped with MacBooks. But that was in late 2007 and early 2008 before the unibody machines with internal batteries. We still have that McBook by the way Nic, and it's still working as good as new. Lynne From billd at insightbb.com Tue Jan 11 13:34:25 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 08:34:25 -0500 Subject: list questions Message-ID: Hello, I was wondering if a person is having some issues when they are on a certain web sight is it allergist to mention the name of the web-sight or should they only mention the issues they are having on the sight? Bill Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Tue Jan 11 13:39:22 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 08:39:22 -0500 Subject: looking for a bible program that will work with the Mac Message-ID: Hello, I am looking for a Bible program or an excessiblef web sight that has several versions of the Bible. if anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate hearing from you. Bill Deatherage From moopiecurran at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 14:55:40 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:55:40 -0500 Subject: Checking the battery condition was Re: MacBook Battery Condition question In-Reply-To: References: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi, How do you check the battery condition, do you just go through the menu bar? Courtney On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:17 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Lynne, > > Thanks a lot for your response. > > i'd rather not have that happen to my MacBook just yet. I've only had it Since August 1 2009, which is why I think its condition sounds a bit peculiar. I'll take it, though, just in case. :) > > Again, thank you. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Nic >> >> This happened to us as well. We left it, and a week later the battery died. >> >> Fortunately it was still under guarantee; but I'd take it if I were you. >> >> Lynne >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Jan 11 15:21:15 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:21:15 +0000 Subject: how do i delete a podcast from my ipod and itunes ?? Message-ID: <97C8AB21-180C-4F42-9FFA-E0752C51CEE6@virginmedia.com> Hi all my friend was tinkering with my ipod the other day and i now have a podcast that i defo do not want on here how do i delete it please simple instructions would be good thanks in advance jules smiley From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jan 11 15:23:32 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:23:32 -0400 Subject: looking for a bible program that will work with the Mac References: Message-ID: <8C064E62BD594FF88B29BD601705324B@CNIBnotebook> Bill: Well! That depends on what level of access you require. If you just want to read the Bible, you might try the Optasia Ministry at: www.optasiaministry.org/ They have html and text files of various translations. If, on the otherhand, you are looking for greater access and options such as viewing parallel versions, using dictionaries, and concordances, I'm afraid the news is not good. The Online Bible has a version of their Bible that runs under Wine on the Mac but that is not accessible. You could have a duel boot option set up on your Mac to run windows and, say, the Online Bible or one of the other Bible programs. Hope that helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Deatherage" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:39 AM Subject: looking for a bible program that will work with the Mac > Hello, > I am looking for a Bible program or an excessiblef web sight that has > several versions of the Bible. > if anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate hearing from you. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From wa9dro at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 15:24:35 2011 From: wa9dro at gmail.com (Keith Reedy) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:24:35 -0500 Subject: Checking the battery condition was Re: MacBook Battery Condition question In-Reply-To: References: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Press VO keys-shift-m twice to take you in to the menu where you will find that information. HTH. Keith Reedy Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > How do you check the battery condition, do you just go through the menu bar? > Courtney > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:17 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hello Lynne, >> >> Thanks a lot for your response. >> >> i'd rather not have that happen to my MacBook just yet. I've only had it Since August 1 2009, which is why I think its condition sounds a bit peculiar. I'll take it, though, just in case. :) >> >> Again, thank you. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Nic >>> >>> This happened to us as well. We left it, and a week later the battery died. >>> >>> Fortunately it was still under guarantee; but I'd take it if I were you. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 15:26:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:26:12 +0000 Subject: list questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Bill No, by all means mention the website, so that other people can try and replicate your problems. Lynne On 11 Jan 2011, at 13:34, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I was wondering if a person is having some issues when they are on a certain web sight is it allergist to mention the name of the web-sight or should they only mention the issues they are having on the sight? > > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 15:27:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:27:12 +0000 Subject: Checking the battery condition was Re: MacBook Battery Condition question In-Reply-To: References: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Courtney On 11 Jan 2011, at 14:55, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, Go to the Power section in System Profiler. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 15:29:08 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:29:08 +0000 Subject: how do i delete a podcast from my ipod and itunes ?? In-Reply-To: <97C8AB21-180C-4F42-9FFA-E0752C51CEE6@virginmedia.com> References: <97C8AB21-180C-4F42-9FFA-E0752C51CEE6@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <33BFC4EA-B54C-4D71-8D39-F407D4C76E64@mac-access.net> Hello Julie On 11 Jan 2011, at 15:21, Julie Vaughan wrote: > > ? my friend was tinkering with my ipod the other day and i now have a podcast that i defo do not want on here how do i delete it please > > simple instructions would be good is it in your iTunes library? If so delete it from there and it will go the next time you sync. You might be asked if you want to keep it; just say no. Lynne From wa9dro at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 15:31:02 2011 From: wa9dro at gmail.com (Keith Reedy) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:31:02 -0500 Subject: looking for a bible program that will work with the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <217A3960-032E-44D5-AD4D-EC48D3E2B7D0@gmail.com> Hi William, I use Macsword, from macsword.com It is very good, I use it to study and prepare messages and lessons and here is the link to the guide, http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/MacSword_Version_2_1_0_with_Snowleopard_and_Voiceover.shtml This really is one of the best Bible programs I have used. HTH. Keith Reedy Please visit this page and click "Like" if you like! http://m.facebook.com/pages/Keith-Reedy/114181261930792?fbb=rd45a72d7&refid=46 On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:39 AM, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I am looking for a Bible program or an excessiblef web sight that has several versions of the Bible. > if anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate hearing from you. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Jan 11 15:46:22 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:46:22 +0000 Subject: how do i delete a podcast from my ipod and itunes ?? In-Reply-To: <33BFC4EA-B54C-4D71-8D39-F407D4C76E64@mac-access.net> References: <97C8AB21-180C-4F42-9FFA-E0752C51CEE6@virginmedia.com> <33BFC4EA-B54C-4D71-8D39-F407D4C76E64@mac-access.net> Message-ID: hi lynne sorry to be a pain yes it iis in my library in the podcasts section i have interacted with the podcast then pressed the delete key and nothing seems to be happening what am i doing wrong ?? im pressing the key above the enter key is that right ?? thanks again julie On 11 Jan 2011, at 15:29, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Julie > > On 11 Jan 2011, at 15:21, Julie Vaughan wrote: >> >> ? my friend was tinkering with my ipod the other day and i now have a podcast that i defo do not want on here how do i delete it please >> >> simple instructions would be good > > is it in your iTunes library? If so delete it from there and it will go the next time you sync. You might be asked if you want to keep it; just say no. > > Lynne > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jan 11 16:08:25 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:08:25 +0000 Subject: how do i delete a podcast from my ipod and itunes ?? In-Reply-To: References: <97C8AB21-180C-4F42-9FFA-E0752C51CEE6@virginmedia.com> <33BFC4EA-B54C-4D71-8D39-F407D4C76E64@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <931DEBDF-C3F6-43F5-898C-284768B6156C@googlemail.com> hi jules ok my email instructions are not as good as spoken so if you don't understand just call me or text me and i will call you to talk you through it. 1. go to the podcasts table in itune then when you have highlighted the postcast table go to the place where all your podcasts are then interact with it. 2. find the potcast you want then press v.o space on it. 3. when you have done that you will be in the podcast where it will sho all the eppasoads you have tab once and you shoudl see a button to unsubscribe from the podcast do v.o space on that button then you will not get any more eppasoads of the podcast. 4. shift tab back in to the eppasoads table where you see all the eppasoads of the pod cast and highlight them all with comand a. after that press your backspace key and it will ask them want you want to do with it, just tell it to move it to trash and the pod cast will be gone. after that just resink your ipod and it will go from there. hope the instructions help and if your still having trouble text me or call me and i will talk you through it verbally. Ian McNamara From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Tue Jan 11 16:14:32 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:14:32 +0000 Subject: Safari gets stuck on some webpages In-Reply-To: <413D43EB-7499-4E7A-97CC-09BA10BE1C7A@me.com> References: <6A0457AD-C257-4FBB-B41C-72AF9E5613DC@me.com> <413D43EB-7499-4E7A-97CC-09BA10BE1C7A@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Simon! I'm going to presume you have not got keyboard commander on! 1, open vo utility with vo+f8 and you should be on general! Tab 4 times and you should be on allow voiceover to be controlled by apple scripts button, if this is not checked then do so with vo+space 2, Go back to where it says category table general and interact with vo+shift+down arrow! 3, scroll down until you get to commanders, stop interacting with vo+shift+up arrow [ from now on I'll just say interact and so on] then right arrow to keyboard commander tab and select it vo+space! 4, The next thing is the enable keyboard commander just check that! 5, Next is the option to choose which option key you want to use, it should already be on the right one, that seems to be the one of choice! However you could pick the left one if you think it would be better for you! Just pick the one you want vo+space 6, Scroll right and you'll come across the table of shortcuts and interact, you should see there are a few already there, like t for time, so from now on if you press the right option key+t vo will tell you date and time! Also s for safari! Now stop interacting 7, Scroll right again and you'll get the add button vo+space on that,you will get a place to put your shortcut key, as long as it has not been used you can pick any of the normal keys 1 to 0 and a z! For example I've got b for to go the beginning of page and e for end you'll be able to choose from a lot of items [ but remember you have to remember them] :] So take a little time to think which keys will help you and what items you want to have as a shortcut! 8, next to the where you put the letter or number, there is a menu vo+space on that, you could take a little time seeing what things are available to you there! 9,Back to dom to group! After picking which key you want for this task in this menu go down until you get to web, then right arrow to open then go down to the bottom that should be change from dom to group! Just vo+space and your done! From then on which ever key you picked just press right option + your key and it will change from dom to group and again to go back! Sorry this is a bit long! So have a good look to see where this will help you! hth Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 11 Jan 2011, at 12:29, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > Thanks, Colin, I shall give it a go. Could you describe in steps, how you have assigned the shortcut to this operation? > > Many thanks, Simon > On 11 Jan 2011, at 12:10, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi Simon! >> Ok someone once said that if you change from either dom to group or vice versor that might help with some sites! >> Thats presuming you have not already tried that of course! :] >> And just in case you do not know how to do this open vo+hh and scroll down to web and right arrow then scroll to the bottom and you will find it there, then just vo+space bar on it and it will tell you its changed! >> Then repeat to change back! >> I've got a keyboard shortcut set up to do this! >> So if I have to I just need to press right option+z and the same to go back! >> Anyway I hope this is of some help! >> Colin >> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! >> >> On 11 Jan 2011, at 09:41, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Has anybody noticed that the most recent Safari often gets stuck on some web pages Voiceover alternately reports busy/ready? This happens frequently on Apple website. For instance, I was doing Apple's own survey yesterday and almost every time I moved to another page, Safari behaved in that fashion. I also have this problem when doing internet banking. The only solution I have for this is to off-load Voiceover and load it again with command+f5. This is quite annoying and I wonder whether I should report it to accessibility. It used to happen before but I have noticed that it has become more frequent with the most recent update to Safari. Can anyone on the list confirm their experience? I don't want to make a fuss about just one instance. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Simon >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 16:22:22 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:22:22 +0100 Subject: Checking the battery condition was Re: MacBook Battery Condition question In-Reply-To: References: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2CCCC6A7-F61A-4C48-945C-385C0D82EDFB@gmail.com> Hello Lynne and Courtney, You can also hold down the option key while in the status bar. You can easily get to it by hitting Control-F8, then use the option key when you hit down arrow. Basically, hold down the option key when hitting down arrow to access other menu items. This also works in the Airport menu and others. If they do not show up, they are dimmed in which case VoiceOver skips them. Then you can just use VOiceOver-down arrow. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From gcsmart at att.net Tue Jan 11 16:23:01 2011 From: gcsmart at att.net (Cindy Smart) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:23:01 -0600 Subject: Very satisfied member with first question. Message-ID: <8AF76FC4-DD52-41D0-BFCB-C6EBAC326910@att.net> Hello, all. I am Cindy Smart, and so far, I've just been observing and learning. I love this list! Thank you! I have had my Mac since July, and I'm liking it more every day! It's a Mac Book Pro. Where can I get the VueScan, and the ABBYY Fine reader? Do I need both to use a scanner? Which scanners are Mac compatible? i am very frustrated with my Dell laptop, even though I have software and a scanner. Since this is not a windows list, that is all I will say about that. Thanks so much again for this list! i have learned so much! Cindy Smart From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Jan 11 16:25:26 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:25:26 +0000 Subject: how do i delete a podcast from my ipod and itunes ?? In-Reply-To: <931DEBDF-C3F6-43F5-898C-284768B6156C@googlemail.com> References: <97C8AB21-180C-4F42-9FFA-E0752C51CEE6@virginmedia.com> <33BFC4EA-B54C-4D71-8D39-F407D4C76E64@mac-access.net> <931DEBDF-C3F6-43F5-898C-284768B6156C@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <2B40F041-7C14-44D6-953B-2CA864D18A26@virginmedia.com> ok thanks ian On 11 Jan 2011, at 16:08, Ian McNamara wrote: > hi jules ok my email instructions are not as good as spoken so if you don't understand just call me or text me and i will call you to talk you through it. > > 1. go to the podcasts table in itune then when you have highlighted the postcast table go to the place where all your podcasts are then interact with it. > > 2. find the potcast you want then press v.o space on it. > > 3. when you have done that you will be in the podcast where it will sho all the eppasoads you have tab once and you shoudl see a button to unsubscribe from the podcast do v.o space on that button then you will not get any more eppasoads of the podcast. > > 4. shift tab back in to the eppasoads table where you see all the eppasoads of the pod cast and highlight them all with comand a. after that press your backspace key and it will ask them want you want to do with it, just tell it to move it to trash and the pod cast will be gone. after that just resink your ipod and it will go from there. > > hope the instructions help and if your still having trouble text me or call me and i will talk you through it verbally. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 17:16:56 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:16:56 +0000 Subject: Where has the OSX Firewall gone? Message-ID: Hello everybody I suppose this is one of those lapses. Gordon and I are both scratching our heads at the moment because we thought that the OSX firewall was under System Preferences > Security but it seems that either we are both mistaken, or it has been moved. Any suggestions please? Lynne From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 17:25:03 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:25:03 +0100 Subject: Where has the OSX Firewall gone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Lynne, That is still the case. I just opened System Preferences>Security and I have a Firewall tab with all options. I am running Mac OS X 10.6.6. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From gordon at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 17:25:43 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:25:43 +0000 Subject: how do i delete a podcast from my ipod and itunes ?? In-Reply-To: References: <97C8AB21-180C-4F42-9FFA-E0752C51CEE6@virginmedia.com> <33BFC4EA-B54C-4D71-8D39-F407D4C76E64@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <775FE07E-83F6-4839-A0C3-6B5FF9A95129@mac-access.net> Hello Julie Find the podcast you want and bring up the context menu with VoiceOver+M. Move to the "Remove" option. Lynne On 11 Jan 2011, at 15:46, Julie Vaughan wrote: > hi lynne sorry to be a pain yes it iis in my library in the podcasts section i have interacted with the podcast then pressed the delete key and nothing seems to be happening what am i doing wrong ?? im pressing the key above the enter key is that right ?? > > thanks again julie > On 11 Jan 2011, at 15:29, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Julie >> >> On 11 Jan 2011, at 15:21, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>> >>> ? my friend was tinkering with my ipod the other day and i now have a podcast that i defo do not want on here how do i delete it please >>> >>> simple instructions would be good >> >> is it in your iTunes library? If so delete it from there and it will go the next time you sync. You might be asked if you want to keep it; just say no. >> >> Lynne >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 17:33:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:33:27 +0000 Subject: Very satisfied member with first question. In-Reply-To: <8AF76FC4-DD52-41D0-BFCB-C6EBAC326910@att.net> References: <8AF76FC4-DD52-41D0-BFCB-C6EBAC326910@att.net> Message-ID: <137FE2B3-CA34-47BB-BD68-9F0B38494B8B@mac-access.net> Hello Cindy I'm very glad you like the list; Gordon and I work very hard to maintain a high standard of availability and to keep the group spam-free. It is gratifying to know that we are doing some good to people. If you use Google, you can find Vuescan. Although I will try later to sort out a link for you. For Abbyy Finereader Express, you need to go to the Abbyy website at http://www.abbyy.com (from memory),. Whether you need both depends upon your scanner. Some will work directly as they have true Intel drivers, and don't use emulation. That is the explanation we received from Abbyy's technical people. I hope that helps somewhat. Lynne On 11 Jan 2011, at 16:23, Cindy Smart wrote: > Hello, all. > I am Cindy Smart, and so far, I've just been observing and learning. > I love this list! > Thank you! > I have had my Mac since July, and I'm liking it more every day! > It's a Mac Book Pro. > Where can I get the VueScan, and the ABBYY Fine reader? > Do I need both to use a scanner? > Which scanners are Mac compatible? > i am very frustrated with my Dell laptop, even though I have software and a scanner. > Since this is not a windows list, that is all I will say about that. > Thanks so much again for this list! > i have learned so much! > > Cindy Smart > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 17:35:22 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:35:22 +0000 Subject: Where has the OSX Firewall gone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Nic On 11 Jan 2011, at 17:25, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > ? That is still the case. I just opened System Preferences>Security and I have a Firewall tab with all options. > That is really odd. All I have there is General and FileVault. I'm confused. Yes, we are using 10.6.6. Lynne > I am running Mac OS X 10.6.6. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From helianthe at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 17:39:47 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:39:47 +0100 Subject: Where has the OSX Firewall gone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lynne, I have just checked and it's definitely in system preferences in security and I am also using 10.6.6. Lyn & Twinny On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > On 11 Jan 2011, at 17:25, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> ? That is still the case. I just opened System Preferences>Security and I have a Firewall tab with all options. >> > That is really odd. All I have there is General and FileVault. > > I'm confused. Yes, we are using 10.6.6. > > Lynne > >> I am running Mac OS X 10.6.6. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jan 11 17:42:46 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:42:46 +0000 Subject: Where has the OSX Firewall gone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35EEE0A4-9D5C-4BDC-8564-C519F2F763C0@blueyonder.co.uk> Lynne, Are you using an account with full admin rights? I can confirm that the firewall tab (tab 3) is indeed still in the security page. Type firewall into the search box on system preferences and see if it shines a spot light on the Security icon (this does not work for VO though). Chris On 11 Jan 2011, at 17:35, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > On 11 Jan 2011, at 17:25, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> ? That is still the case. I just opened System Preferences>Security and I have a Firewall tab with all options. >> > That is really odd. All I have there is General and FileVault. > > I'm confused. Yes, we are using 10.6.6. > > Lynne > >> I am running Mac OS X 10.6.6. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gcsmart at att.net Tue Jan 11 17:41:32 2011 From: gcsmart at att.net (Cindy Smart) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:41:32 -0600 Subject: Very satisfied member with first question. In-Reply-To: <137FE2B3-CA34-47BB-BD68-9F0B38494B8B@mac-access.net> References: <8AF76FC4-DD52-41D0-BFCB-C6EBAC326910@att.net> <137FE2B3-CA34-47BB-BD68-9F0B38494B8B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Yes, you and Gordon are doing a fabulous job. My scanner is a Cannon Lide 110. i don't know if this helps. i didn't need to install any drivers from a CD. I sure have a lot to learn, but you have helped me a great deal! On Jan 11, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Cindy > > I'm very glad you like the list; Gordon and I work very hard to maintain a high standard of availability and to keep the group spam-free. It is gratifying to know that we are doing some good to people. > > If you use Google, you can find Vuescan. Although I will try later to sort out a link for you. > > For Abbyy Finereader Express, you need to go to the Abbyy website at http://www.abbyy.com (from memory),. Whether you need both depends upon your scanner. Some will work directly as they have true Intel drivers, and don't use emulation. That is the explanation we received from Abbyy's technical people. > > I hope that helps somewhat. > > Lynne > > On 11 Jan 2011, at 16:23, Cindy Smart wrote: > >> Hello, all. >> I am Cindy Smart, and so far, I've just been observing and learning. >> I love this list! >> Thank you! >> I have had my Mac since July, and I'm liking it more every day! >> It's a Mac Book Pro. >> Where can I get the VueScan, and the ABBYY Fine reader? >> Do I need both to use a scanner? >> Which scanners are Mac compatible? >> i am very frustrated with my Dell laptop, even though I have software and a scanner. >> Since this is not a windows list, that is all I will say about that. >> Thanks so much again for this list! >> i have learned so much! >> >> Cindy Smart >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Jan 11 18:07:15 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:07:15 +0100 Subject: Very satisfied member with first question. In-Reply-To: References: <8AF76FC4-DD52-41D0-BFCB-C6EBAC326910@att.net> <137FE2B3-CA34-47BB-BD68-9F0B38494B8B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Cindy, You'll almost certainly need VueScan to work with your particular scanner. If you click the link below, the correct level of VueScan should start downloading to your computer: And here is the link for the trial version of ABBYY FineReader Express for Mac: Cheers, Anne On 11 Jan 2011, at 18:41, Cindy Smart wrote: > Yes, you and Gordon are doing a fabulous job. > My scanner is a Cannon Lide 110. From simoncavendish at me.com Tue Jan 11 18:26:08 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:26:08 +0000 Subject: Safari gets stuck on some webpages In-Reply-To: References: <6A0457AD-C257-4FBB-B41C-72AF9E5613DC@me.com> <413D43EB-7499-4E7A-97CC-09BA10BE1C7A@me.com> Message-ID: <53A5F3D4-D7E2-4FD8-8AD9-F7191ED38E44@me.com> Dear Colin, thank you for such clear instructions. It's so helpful. With best wishes Simon On 11 Jan 2011, at 16:14, Colin M wrote: > Hi Simon! > I'm going to presume you have not got keyboard commander on! > 1, open vo utility with vo+f8 and you should be on general! > Tab 4 times and you should be on allow voiceover to be controlled by apple scripts button, if this is not checked then do so with vo+space > 2, Go back to where it says category table general and interact with vo+shift+down arrow! > 3, scroll down until you get to commanders, stop interacting with vo+shift+up arrow [ from now on I'll just say interact and so on] then right arrow to keyboard commander tab and select it vo+space! > 4, The next thing is the enable keyboard commander just check that! > 5, Next is the option to choose which option key you want to use, it should already be on the right one, that seems to be the one of choice! > However you could pick the left one if you think it would be better for you! > Just pick the one you want vo+space > 6, Scroll right and you'll come across the table of shortcuts and interact, you should see there are a few already there, like t for time, so from now on if you press the right option key+t vo will tell you date and time! > Also s for safari! Now stop interacting > 7, Scroll right again and you'll get the add button vo+space on that,you will get a place to put your shortcut key, as long as it has not been used you can pick any of the normal keys 1 to 0 and a z! > For example I've got b for to go the beginning of page and e for end you'll be able to choose from a lot of items [ but remember you have to remember them] :] > So take a little time to think which keys will help you and what items you want to have as a shortcut! > 8, next to the where you put the letter or number, there is a menu vo+space on that, you could take a little time seeing what things are available to you there! > 9,Back to dom to group! After picking which key you want for this task in this menu go down until you get to web, then right arrow to open then go down to the bottom that should be change from dom to group! > Just vo+space and your done! > From then on which ever key you picked just press right option + your key and it will change from dom to group and again to go back! > Sorry this is a bit long! > So have a good look to see where this will help you! > hth Colin > I'm far too bad for Heaven! > The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! > > On 11 Jan 2011, at 12:29, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > >> Thanks, Colin, I shall give it a go. Could you describe in steps, how you have assigned the shortcut to this operation? >> >> Many thanks, Simon >> On 11 Jan 2011, at 12:10, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi Simon! >>> Ok someone once said that if you change from either dom to group or vice versor that might help with some sites! >>> Thats presuming you have not already tried that of course! :] >>> And just in case you do not know how to do this open vo+hh and scroll down to web and right arrow then scroll to the bottom and you will find it there, then just vo+space bar on it and it will tell you its changed! >>> Then repeat to change back! >>> I've got a keyboard shortcut set up to do this! >>> So if I have to I just need to press right option+z and the same to go back! >>> Anyway I hope this is of some help! >>> Colin >>> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >>> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! >>> >>> On 11 Jan 2011, at 09:41, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Has anybody noticed that the most recent Safari often gets stuck on some web pages Voiceover alternately reports busy/ready? This happens frequently on Apple website. For instance, I was doing Apple's own survey yesterday and almost every time I moved to another page, Safari behaved in that fashion. I also have this problem when doing internet banking. The only solution I have for this is to off-load Voiceover and load it again with command+f5. This is quite annoying and I wonder whether I should report it to accessibility. It used to happen before but I have noticed that it has become more frequent with the most recent update to Safari. Can anyone on the list confirm their experience? I don't want to make a fuss about just one instance. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gcsmart at att.net Tue Jan 11 18:41:02 2011 From: gcsmart at att.net (Cindy Smart) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:41:02 -0600 Subject: Very satisfied member with first question. In-Reply-To: References: <8AF76FC4-DD52-41D0-BFCB-C6EBAC326910@att.net> <137FE2B3-CA34-47BB-BD68-9F0B38494B8B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Oh, thanks so much! On Jan 11, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Cindy, > > You'll almost certainly need VueScan to work with your particular scanner. If you click the link below, the correct level of VueScan should start downloading to your computer: > > > And here is the link for the trial version of ABBYY FineReader Express for Mac: > > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 11 Jan 2011, at 18:41, Cindy Smart wrote: > >> Yes, you and Gordon are doing a fabulous job. >> My scanner is a Cannon Lide 110. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 19:04:53 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:04:53 +0000 Subject: Using Hot Spots to locate comments in Pages 09 Message-ID: <6C71DC4E-8FEF-42A3-BA50-788EF2F9C9E4@mac-access.net> Hello everyone, I have been exploring the Voice Over help and was surprised to read that Hot Spots can be stored even if the window you're working in is closed and Voice Over is turned off. Has anyone tried this in Pages when working with comments either in one or multiple documents? Thanks for any help Take care James E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) Twitter: lnt2008 From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 19:09:59 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:09:59 +0000 Subject: Where has the OSX Firewall gone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19B54499-CE26-4FF5-8E34-34FA2700E685@mac-access.net> Hello Lyn On 11 Jan 2011, at 17:39, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > ? I have just checked and it's definitely in system preferences in security and I am also using 10.6.6. > I'm sorry Lyn, Nic and all. I had totally forgotten until Gordon gently reminded me that it's different on OSX Server to how it is with OSX regular edition. My apologies for the error. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 19:13:43 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:13:43 +0000 Subject: Very satisfied member with first question. In-Reply-To: References: <8AF76FC4-DD52-41D0-BFCB-C6EBAC326910@att.net> <137FE2B3-CA34-47BB-BD68-9F0B38494B8B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Cindy On 11 Jan 2011, at 17:41, Cindy Smart wrote: > ? Yes, you and Gordon are doing a fabulous job. Thank you so much. We're not looking for praise; but it's nice to be appreciated. > ? My scanner is a Cannon Lide 110. > i don't know if this helps. Yes, it does. You will need both Abbyy FineReader Express for Mac and Vuescan. Finereader will not talk directly to your scanner because it does not use true Intel drivers. The Canon drivers are emulated. That is what the support people at Abbyy told me. > i didn't need to install any drivers from a CD. > I sure have a lot to learn, but you have helped me a great deal! We aim to please. Lynne From david.mclean at cox.net Tue Jan 11 20:38:28 2011 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:38:28 -0500 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> Message-ID: <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> Ok thanks. I am currently trying them out on the 30-day trial. On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:58 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello David > > On 11 Jan 2011, at 00:39, David McLean wrote: > >> ? Lynne, Do you have the Ivox application that has all the voices or did you manage to buy a single voice? From the website it didn't appear that it is possible to buy just one voice although I could have missed it. There are a couple of voices I'm interested in b ut I can't see wasting the money on all of them. Tahnks for any info. > When you buy iVox, it is on a language pack basis. You get all the voices for that language. Heather, the American voice, is included free with every language pack. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Tue Jan 11 20:50:20 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:50:20 +0000 Subject: Shameless plug and request for suggestions Message-ID: Hi My son, the developer, has a text to speech ap in the mac ap store called sayit - it's in entertainment - it costs a princely 59 pence. I have already told him he needs to add the ability to speed up the speech and he is working on that. He also wants to extend the number of file formats the audio can be saved to. He wants more ideas to improve this very basic ap to be of use to the visually impaired so if you could spare the coppers to have a look and feed back your suggestions to me I can guarantee he will take them on board or be cut out of my will. Regards G From glorious Devon, England. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 11 20:58:09 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:58:09 +0000 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> Message-ID: <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> Hello David On 11 Jan 2011, at 20:38, David McLean wrote: > Ok thanks. I am currently trying them out on the 30-day trial. They are the best synthetic voices anywhere. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 22:09:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:09:12 -0800 Subject: Interview by podcast of the founder and CEO of the Awareness app! References: Message-ID: <33E919ED-57BB-48C5-A74A-81F6240A287C@gmail.com> > > Hi, thought some of you would be interested in this podcast on the interview of the founder and CEO of The Awareness app. So see link below. Might have to copy and paste in address bar. > > > > http://mark.candleshoreblog.com/2011/01/09/ep79-paying-the-cost/ > > > > > > Sign, > > Bubba > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 22:30:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:30:40 -0800 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> Yikes! I looked at the price. almost 300 dollars? I'm going to try these first but yowza! Take care. S On Jan 11, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello David > > On 11 Jan 2011, at 20:38, David McLean wrote: > >> Ok thanks. I am currently trying them out on the 30-day trial. > > They are the best synthetic voices anywhere. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 22:48:21 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:48:21 +0100 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <40FDD146-93E2-4697-9693-0A78E548C96E@gmail.com> Hi Sarah, The Scandinavian are $219 and non-Scandinavian are 99, though for additional packs it is less, approximately $49.50 for non-scandinavian and $109.50 for a Scandinavian language pack. The first prices are for activation codes included which you will need to activate future language packs. This means that, if you buy the British English voices as a single user license, you receive an activation code. Note that I am not referring to the "additional language packs" here. These can only be used when you have an activation code, which you will receive when purchasing your initial language that do not have "additional language pack" written next to them. Also worth noting is that the prices are the same for non-US customers, only in euro. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 23:03:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:03:47 -0800 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <40FDD146-93E2-4697-9693-0A78E548C96E@gmail.com> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> <40FDD146-93E2-4697-9693-0A78E548C96E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4328D295-92EC-44E2-8AEF-7DF63FC285F7@gmail.com> I was confused though I saw the product. I didn't see the language pac. the site is a bit confusing to navagate or I just don't kno whwat I'm doing. I might download the demo and hear the voices though as I'm running 4 gigs of ram so my computer should love it. lol! On Jan 11, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > The Scandinavian are $219 and non-Scandinavian are 99, though for additional packs it is less, approximately $49.50 for non-scandinavian and $109.50 for a Scandinavian language pack. The first prices are for activation codes included which you will need to activate future language packs. This means that, if you buy the British English voices as a single user license, you receive an activation code. Note that I am not referring to the "additional language packs" here. These can only be used when you have an activation code, which you will receive when purchasing your initial language that do not have "additional language pack" written next to them. > > Also worth noting is that the prices are the same for non-US customers, only in euro. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gcsmart at att.net Tue Jan 11 22:58:12 2011 From: gcsmart at att.net (Cindy Smart) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:58:12 -0600 Subject: Very satisfied member with first question. In-Reply-To: References: <8AF76FC4-DD52-41D0-BFCB-C6EBAC326910@att.net> <137FE2B3-CA34-47BB-BD68-9F0B38494B8B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <90BF3D95-0BB1-4939-84EB-8FC0B93F1C6B@att.net> Oh, and now I have them both! Thank you to you and Anne! This is great! On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Cindy > > On 11 Jan 2011, at 17:41, Cindy Smart wrote: > >> ? Yes, you and Gordon are doing a fabulous job. > > Thank you so much. We're not looking for praise; but it's nice to be appreciated. > >> ? My scanner is a Cannon Lide 110. >> i don't know if this helps. > > Yes, it does. You will need both Abbyy FineReader Express for Mac and Vuescan. Finereader will not talk directly to your scanner because it does not use true Intel drivers. The Canon drivers are emulated. That is what the support people at Abbyy told me. > >> i didn't need to install any drivers from a CD. >> I sure have a lot to learn, but you have helped me a great deal! > > We aim to please. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 23:52:43 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 00:52:43 +0100 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <4328D295-92EC-44E2-8AEF-7DF63FC285F7@gmail.com> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> <40FDD146-93E2-4697-9693-0A78E548C96E@gmail.com> <4328D295-92EC-44E2-8AEF-7DF63FC285F7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi! Well, you won't even notice it. Responsiveness is extremely good, just as well as with the native Mac OS X voices. However, with a load of CPU usage you may notice a slight choppiness to the voices. You only see the actual prices, including where to purchase, on the "Purchase" page. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 00:12:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:12:48 -0800 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> <40FDD146-93E2-4697-9693-0A78E548C96E@gmail.com> <4328D295-92EC-44E2-8AEF-7DF63FC285F7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <22864C1B-119B-415B-AF7D-1AAB05099A2E@gmail.com> Hmm yeah I if I like it will be saving up for these voices. I'm sick of vo voices crashing every 30 or so seconds wiht sounds off. I'm hoping that infovox wont' do that or I hope they won't crash at all with sounds on or off. S On Jan 11, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > Well, you won't even notice it. Responsiveness is extremely good, just as well as with the native Mac OS X voices. However, with a load of CPU usage you may notice a slight choppiness to the voices. > > You only see the actual prices, including where to purchase, on the "Purchase" page. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Jan 12 00:20:34 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:20:34 -0400 Subject: iPhone and bluetooth keyboard question. Message-ID: Hi Folks: Are there any keyboard commands dealing with folders on the iPhone? Thanks all over the place gang. From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 00:29:55 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:29:55 -0800 Subject: Apple to add Wi-Fi hotspot to GSM iPhone with iOS 4.3 - rumor Message-ID: <88164439-515B-4CD9-B52A-3DE6D9602201@gmail.com> I could not read the article as all it shows is a link coded as slash. but if this happens will we not have to pay for tethering for at&t or VZ read more if you can: http://dlvr.it/D7KPM From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 00:30:32 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:30:32 -0800 Subject: iPhone and bluetooth keyboard question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not that I"m aware of. Just do the normal double tap iwht he keyboard and away you go.. s On Jan 11, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Are there any keyboard commands dealing with folders on the iPhone? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 00:35:05 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:35:05 -0800 Subject: Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone Message-ID: Not surprised here. http://dlvr.it/D7d4m From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 00:55:09 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:55:09 -0800 Subject: Verizon and Apple Q&A Message-ID: Here is the q&a for apple and VZ. Read more: http://bit.ly/hVrUdz From wa9dro at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 01:37:08 2011 From: wa9dro at gmail.com (Keith Reedy) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:37:08 -0500 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <22864C1B-119B-415B-AF7D-1AAB05099A2E@gmail.com> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> <40FDD146-93E2-4697-9693-0A78E548C96E@gmail.com> <4328D295-92EC-44E2-8AEF-7DF63FC285F7@gmail.com> <22864C1B-119B-415B-AF7D-1AAB05099A2E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <64D60B81-FDF9-41FF-B7A8-83684CBB8950@gmail.com> Sarah, I am having none of these problems and never have. Keith Reedy Click the link below to download MP3's of Keith Reedy's music as a gift from Bibles For The Blind. http://biblesfortheblind.org/download_music.shtml God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor. On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hmm yeah I if I like it will be saving up for these voices. I'm sick of vo voices crashing every 30 or so seconds wiht sounds off. I'm hoping that infovox wont' do that or I hope they won't crash at all with sounds on or off. > > S > On Jan 11, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Well, you won't even notice it. Responsiveness is extremely good, just as well as with the native Mac OS X voices. However, with a load of CPU usage you may notice a slight choppiness to the voices. >> >> You only see the actual prices, including where to purchase, on the "Purchase" page. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 01:54:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:54:18 -0800 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <64D60B81-FDF9-41FF-B7A8-83684CBB8950@gmail.com> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> <40FDD146-93E2-4697-9693-0A78E548C96E@gmail.com> <4328D295-92EC-44E2-8AEF-7DF63FC285F7@gmail.com> <22864C1B-119B-415B-AF7D-1AAB05099A2E@gmail.com> <64D60B81-FDF9-41FF-B7A8-83684CBB8950@gmail.com> Message-ID: <33DCB69E-52E9-497A-973E-2F6948701296@gmail.com> YOu're one of th elucky ones. Check the archives for this month. Take care. s OH yeah and so far no crash. It is a bit choppy but I can expect that as I run some resource hogs. lol! S On Jan 11, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: > Sarah, > > I am having none of these problems and never have. > Keith Reedy > Click the link below to download MP3's of Keith Reedy's music as a gift from Bibles For The Blind. > > http://biblesfortheblind.org/download_music.shtml > > God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor. > > > > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hmm yeah I if I like it will be saving up for these voices. I'm sick of vo voices crashing every 30 or so seconds wiht sounds off. I'm hoping that infovox wont' do that or I hope they won't crash at all with sounds on or off. >> >> S >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Well, you won't even notice it. Responsiveness is extremely good, just as well as with the native Mac OS X voices. However, with a load of CPU usage you may notice a slight choppiness to the voices. >>> >>> You only see the actual prices, including where to purchase, on the "Purchase" page. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Wed Jan 12 02:01:13 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:01:13 -0600 Subject: Checking the battery condition was Re: MacBook Battery Condition question In-Reply-To: References: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <47C15F22-B0E4-4289-9C4C-0DD799814107@charter.net> Open your utilities folder, and then open the system profiler app. Go down to the power setting, then move to the right with voice over, you will see a text box with lots of info. On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > How do you check the battery condition, do you just go through the menu bar? > Courtney > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:17 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hello Lynne, >> >> Thanks a lot for your response. >> >> i'd rather not have that happen to my MacBook just yet. I've only had it Since August 1 2009, which is why I think its condition sounds a bit peculiar. I'll take it, though, just in case. :) >> >> Again, thank you. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Nic >>> >>> This happened to us as well. We left it, and a week later the battery died. >>> >>> Fortunately it was still under guarantee; but I'd take it if I were you. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 02:12:04 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:12:04 -0500 Subject: "Data Detector Present" In-Reply-To: <47C15F22-B0E4-4289-9C4C-0DD799814107@charter.net> References: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> <47C15F22-B0E4-4289-9C4C-0DD799814107@charter.net> Message-ID: <87D77FE9-8A01-4E57-93A7-51F2A3F79885@gmail.com> I hear this phrase a lot when I am reading E-Mail and I don't know why or what it means. Can anyone tell me? Also, is there a way to not hear it? Thanks. Kristeen On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Open your utilities folder, and then open the system profiler app. Go down to the power setting, then move to the right with voice over, you will see a text box with lots of info. > On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> How do you check the battery condition, do you just go through the menu bar? >> Courtney >> >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:17 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hello Lynne, >>> >>> Thanks a lot for your response. >>> >>> i'd rather not have that happen to my MacBook just yet. I've only had it Since August 1 2009, which is why I think its condition sounds a bit peculiar. I'll take it, though, just in case. :) >>> >>> Again, thank you. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Nic >>>> >>>> This happened to us as well. We left it, and a week later the battery died. >>>> >>>> Fortunately it was still under guarantee; but I'd take it if I were you. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 02:25:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:25:53 -0800 Subject: "Data Detector Present" In-Reply-To: <87D77FE9-8A01-4E57-93A7-51F2A3F79885@gmail.com> References: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> <47C15F22-B0E4-4289-9C4C-0DD799814107@charter.net> <87D77FE9-8A01-4E57-93A7-51F2A3F79885@gmail.com> Message-ID: No way to not hear it. but what that is is a way to right click on a item wiht that and let's say add it to yoru calander or to your address book as a phone or email. It happens a lot on web pages too. S On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I hear this phrase a lot when I am reading E-Mail and I don't know why or what it means. Can anyone tell me? Also, is there a way to not hear it? > > Thanks. > > Kristeen > On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Open your utilities folder, and then open the system profiler app. Go down to the power setting, then move to the right with voice over, you will see a text box with lots of info. >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> How do you check the battery condition, do you just go through the menu bar? >>> Courtney >>> >>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:17 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Lynne, >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot for your response. >>>> >>>> i'd rather not have that happen to my MacBook just yet. I've only had it Since August 1 2009, which is why I think its condition sounds a bit peculiar. I'll take it, though, just in case. :) >>>> >>>> Again, thank you. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Nic >>>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >>>> Facebook >>>> Twitter >>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >>>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>>> AIM: cincinster >>>> >>>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Nic >>>>> >>>>> This happened to us as well. We left it, and a week later the battery died. >>>>> >>>>> Fortunately it was still under guarantee; but I'd take it if I were you. >>>>> >>>>> Lynne >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jan 12 02:27:36 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:27:36 +0000 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah On 11 Jan 2011, at 22:30, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yikes! I looked at the price. almost 300 dollars? I'm going to try these first but yowza! They've gone up, or else you're pricing the wrong things, LOL. They didn't cost us anything like $300. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jan 12 02:34:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:34:27 +0000 Subject: Time Capsule and network methods Message-ID: Hello everybody We are struggling a bit with the Time Capsule. We need to set it up so that it's just a device on the network, rather than a DHCP server and so on. So, we set the darn thing into bridge mode, and now Airport Utility doesn't see it. Anybody happen to know how the heck you turn off DHCP services on your local connection using Time Capsule? Every router known to man, (according to my other half, who is a systems engineer), allows you to disable DHCP. But there doesn't seem to be a way of doing so with this. What we were hoping to do was join 2 wireless networks together but Gordon says we could get away with only having one. If only this darn DHCP thing wasn't a problem. The reason we can't use DHCP is because our networks now both have non-NAT public addresses for each device on the network. We just pulled the cable modem off line because we're getting shot of Virgin Media on Feb 10 and want to get the switch-over done asap. So, any ideas anybody? Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 02:34:36 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:34:36 -0800 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7F5A2E46-E3EB-4669-AF6F-1D6B65F374F3@gmail.com> Yeah ditzy me is probably looking at the wrong thing. I'm still reeling. I looked under products and didn't see anything below 2 or 300 . Take care all On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hi Sarah > > On 11 Jan 2011, at 22:30, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Yikes! I looked at the price. almost 300 dollars? I'm going to try these first but yowza! > > They've gone up, or else you're pricing the wrong things, LOL. They didn't cost us anything like $300. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 02:35:11 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:35:11 -0500 Subject: "Data Detector Present" In-Reply-To: References: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> <47C15F22-B0E4-4289-9C4C-0DD799814107@charter.net> <87D77FE9-8A01-4E57-93A7-51F2A3F79885@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8C97B040-36EB-4791-86C3-C69676CBE209@gmail.com> Thank you so much for the info. So in other words, it might be a good thing for me someday when I know what I am doing with this M ac. Kristeen On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No way to not hear it. but what that is is a way to right click on a item wiht that and let's say add it to yoru calander or to your address book as a phone or email. It happens a lot on web pages too. > > S > On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> I hear this phrase a lot when I am reading E-Mail and I don't know why or what it means. Can anyone tell me? Also, is there a way to not hear it? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Kristeen >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Open your utilities folder, and then open the system profiler app. Go down to the power setting, then move to the right with voice over, you will see a text box with lots of info. >>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> How do you check the battery condition, do you just go through the menu bar? >>>> Courtney >>>> >>>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:17 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Lynne, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot for your response. >>>>> >>>>> i'd rather not have that happen to my MacBook just yet. I've only had it Since August 1 2009, which is why I think its condition sounds a bit peculiar. I'll take it, though, just in case. :) >>>>> >>>>> Again, thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Nic >>>>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >>>>> Facebook >>>>> Twitter >>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Nic >>>>>> >>>>>> This happened to us as well. We left it, and a week later the battery died. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fortunately it was still under guarantee; but I'd take it if I were you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lynne >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jan 12 02:38:19 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:38:19 +0000 Subject: Very satisfied member with first question. In-Reply-To: <90BF3D95-0BB1-4939-84EB-8FC0B93F1C6B@att.net> References: <8AF76FC4-DD52-41D0-BFCB-C6EBAC326910@att.net> <137FE2B3-CA34-47BB-BD68-9F0B38494B8B@mac-access.net> <90BF3D95-0BB1-4939-84EB-8FC0B93F1C6B@att.net> Message-ID: <440BE1D4-5CF9-4AF3-99BD-17F950107438@mac-access.net> Hello Cindi On 11 Jan 2011, at 22:58, Cindy Smart wrote: > ? Oh, and now I have them both! > Thank you to you and Anne! > This is great! That is great; another satisfied customer, LOL. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jan 12 02:41:55 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:41:55 +0000 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <22864C1B-119B-415B-AF7D-1AAB05099A2E@gmail.com> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> <40FDD146-93E2-4697-9693-0A78E548C96E@gmail.com> <4328D295-92EC-44E2-8AEF-7DF63FC285F7@gmail.com> <22864C1B-119B-415B-AF7D-1AAB05099A2E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sarah On 12 Jan 2011, at 00:12, Sarah Alawami wrote: > ? Hmm yeah I if I like it will be saving up for these voices. I'm sick of vo voices crashing every 30 or so seconds wiht sounds off. I'm hoping that infovox wont' do that or I hope they won't crash at all with sounds on or off. > iVox will not crash with sound off. Gordon hates the pops and clicks, so they're turned off. iVox works really well. In fact I'm beginning to wonder just who my husband is in love with; me, or Rachel! She's always talking to him and I never get a darn word in edgeways! ;-) Just joking, I know the answers really. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jan 12 02:46:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:46:24 +0000 Subject: "Data Detector Present" In-Reply-To: <87D77FE9-8A01-4E57-93A7-51F2A3F79885@gmail.com> References: <3E5CE963-4CCD-4B0A-A3AE-81BF1D342EC6@gmail.com> <562E0F16-6790-4B4A-8A8F-88BBF17FAADE@mac-access.net> <47C15F22-B0E4-4289-9C4C-0DD799814107@charter.net> <87D77FE9-8A01-4E57-93A7-51F2A3F79885@gmail.com> Message-ID: <22BF1B19-77B3-4774-9443-F7806224A59F@mac-access.net> On 12 Jan 2011, at 02:12, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I hear this phrase a lot when I am reading E-Mail and I don't know why or what it means. Can anyone tell me? Also, is there a way to not hear it? This means that OSX thinks there is a data field you could use for something like Address Book. You can open a menu by doing VO+Shift+M on the field where it says that. There was some discussion on list a couple of weeks ago about thisk, and somebody gave a Terminal command to disable that verbosity. But it was proven not to always work. I agree that it's annoying sometimes. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jan 12 02:48:35 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:48:35 +0000 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <7F5A2E46-E3EB-4669-AF6F-1D6B65F374F3@gmail.com> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> <7F5A2E46-E3EB-4669-AF6F-1D6B65F374F3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6D3D3AB4-7C4F-4798-8101-38F81D811FF6@mac-access.net> Hello Sarah On 12 Jan 2011, at 02:34, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yeah ditzy me is probably looking at the wrong thing. I'm still reeling. I looked under products and didn't see anything below 2 or 300 . > You may have been looking at the site licenses. A single user license, as Nic said a while ago is considerably less than 300 bucks. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 02:53:07 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:53:07 -0800 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> <40FDD146-93E2-4697-9693-0A78E548C96E@gmail.com> <4328D295-92EC-44E2-8AEF-7DF63FC285F7@gmail.com> <22864C1B-119B-415B-AF7D-1AAB05099A2E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <62CD6244-5613-4066-89B6-8E1E4A768194@gmail.com> lol! I only found heather, and theother 2 us english voices. they sound ok. S On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Sarah > > On 12 Jan 2011, at 00:12, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> ? Hmm yeah I if I like it will be saving up for these voices. I'm sick of vo voices crashing every 30 or so seconds wiht sounds off. I'm hoping that infovox wont' do that or I hope they won't crash at all with sounds on or off. >> > iVox will not crash with sound off. Gordon hates the pops and clicks, so they're turned off. iVox works really well. In fact I'm beginning to wonder just who my husband is in love with; me, or Rachel! She's always talking to him and I never get a darn word in edgeways! ;-) > > Just joking, I know the answers really. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 02:53:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:53:48 -0800 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <6D3D3AB4-7C4F-4798-8101-38F81D811FF6@mac-access.net> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> <7F5A2E46-E3EB-4669-AF6F-1D6B65F374F3@gmail.com> <6D3D3AB4-7C4F-4798-8101-38F81D811FF6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <310D2E8D-1A47-4E98-B4E1-BD142E6CA80A@gmail.com> No a single user licence unless group mode read it wrong was a lot but I'll look again in case safari goofed. lol! On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > On 12 Jan 2011, at 02:34, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Yeah ditzy me is probably looking at the wrong thing. I'm still reeling. I looked under products and didn't see anything below 2 or 300 . >> > You may have been looking at the site licenses. A single user license, as Nic said a while ago is considerably less than 300 bucks. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jan 12 03:04:56 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:04:56 +0000 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <62CD6244-5613-4066-89B6-8E1E4A768194@gmail.com> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> <40FDD146-93E2-4697-9693-0A78E548C96E@gmail.com> <4328D295-92EC-44E2-8AEF-7DF63FC285F7@gmail.com> <22864C1B-119B-415B-AF7D-1AAB05099A2E@gmail.com> <62CD6244-5613-4066-89B6-8E1E4A768194@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Sarah There are a few American voices I think. Heather is the voice that's distributed with the British voices, so you must've downloaded the British language pack instead of the American one. Lynne On 12 Jan 2011, at 02:53, Sarah Alawami wrote: > lol! I only found heather, and theother 2 us english voices. they sound ok. > > S > On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Sarah >> >> On 12 Jan 2011, at 00:12, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> ? Hmm yeah I if I like it will be saving up for these voices. I'm sick of vo voices crashing every 30 or so seconds wiht sounds off. I'm hoping that infovox wont' do that or I hope they won't crash at all with sounds on or off. >>> >> iVox will not crash with sound off. Gordon hates the pops and clicks, so they're turned off. iVox works really well. In fact I'm beginning to wonder just who my husband is in love with; me, or Rachel! She's always talking to him and I never get a darn word in edgeways! ;-) >> >> Just joking, I know the answers really. >> >> Lynne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Jan 12 03:07:27 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:07:27 +0000 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: <310D2E8D-1A47-4E98-B4E1-BD142E6CA80A@gmail.com> References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> <7F5A2E46-E3EB-4669-AF6F-1D6B65F374F3@gmail.com> <6D3D3AB4-7C4F-4798-8101-38F81D811FF6@mac-access.net> <310D2E8D-1A47-4E98-B4E1-BD142E6CA80A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6D4EB047-BB92-494C-92D4-9D38B0850ED3@mac-access.net> When i'm less tired Sarah I'll check for you. But my eyes are aching at the moment and I think it's time to stop. I'm only up for reasons I can't go into in here. But maybe off list. Anyway I guess you have the British voices. Lynne On 12 Jan 2011, at 02:53, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No a single user licence unless group mode read it wrong was a lot but I'll look again in case safari goofed. lol! > On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Sarah >> >> On 12 Jan 2011, at 02:34, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Yeah ditzy me is probably looking at the wrong thing. I'm still reeling. I looked under products and didn't see anything below 2 or 300 . >>> >> You may have been looking at the site licenses. A single user license, as Nic said a while ago is considerably less than 300 bucks. >> >> Lynne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 04:16:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:16:50 -0800 Subject: Infovox Voices In-Reply-To: References: <728ADB84-B997-476C-B225-B2994DFDF01D@mac-access.net> <31FF9791-67D2-4DF9-B4D2-B0436B85F963@mac-access.net> <92D522E9-ABB1-47BB-984A-FC4C53EA5508@mac-access.net> <49252C84-45D9-4073-A0DA-B6661807996C@mac-access.net> <21DF89EE-CB38-40DD-B9C2-D2E30B71863C@mac-access.net> <6735A910-5428-4951-B9CC-A0CDD714F675@mac-access.net> <117E3006-E59C-430F-90E3-78478A05B56E@cox.net> <801763CE-75A2-4D9E-9B09-811463D4381A@cox.net> <99F65EA6-5C95-463A-B2B1-5D84221130FF@mac-access.net> <0B670C1A-642D-42DE-AF40-91C1F042AAC5@gmail.com> <40FDD146-93E2-4697-9693-0A78E548C96E@gmail.com> <4328D295-92EC-44E2-8AEF-7DF63FC285F7@gmail.com> <22864C1B-119B-415B-AF7D-1AAB05099A2E@gmail.com> <62CD6244-5613-4066-89B6-8E1E4A768194@gmail.com> Message-ID: <928090AC-A07E-4F67-ADD2-0EE3E91A7985@gmail.com> lol. no it's heather, lora and rian if I get the names right. they sound good except lora and rian sound like they hve a cold. lol! On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > There are a few American voices I think. Heather is the voice that's distributed with the British voices, so you must've downloaded the British language pack instead of the American one. > > Lynne > > On 12 Jan 2011, at 02:53, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> lol! I only found heather, and theother 2 us english voices. they sound ok. >> >> S >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Sarah >>> >>> On 12 Jan 2011, at 00:12, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> ? Hmm yeah I if I like it will be saving up for these voices. I'm sick of vo voices crashing every 30 or so seconds wiht sounds off. I'm hoping that infovox wont' do that or I hope they won't crash at all with sounds on or off. >>>> >>> iVox will not crash with sound off. Gordon hates the pops and clicks, so they're turned off. iVox works really well. In fact I'm beginning to wonder just who my husband is in love with; me, or Rachel! She's always talking to him and I never get a darn word in edgeways! ;-) >>> >>> Just joking, I know the answers really. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simoncavendish at me.com Wed Jan 12 06:16:41 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:16:41 +0000 Subject: Time Capsule and network methods In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If I understand your dilemma - because I had struggled with it myself a few months ago - the only way I could use my time machine as a device for wireless backing up only was to physically connect it via an ethernet cable to my router. Then airport was able to see it. I didn't want my time capsule to perform any other tasks for me but just be a device on my wireless network. I don't understand why aiport can't identify it if it is not connected physically. Please ignore this message, Lynne, if I'm barking up the wrong tree because of my limited understanding. Best wishes Simon On 12 Jan 2011, at 02:34, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > We are struggling a bit with the Time Capsule. We need to set it up so that it's just a device on the network, rather than a DHCP server and so on. > > So, we set the darn thing into bridge mode, and now Airport Utility doesn't see it. Anybody happen to know how the heck you turn off DHCP services on your local connection using Time Capsule? Every router known to man, (according to my other half, who is a systems engineer), allows you to disable DHCP. But there doesn't seem to be a way of doing so with this. What we were hoping to do was join 2 wireless networks together but Gordon says we could get away with only having one. If only this darn DHCP thing wasn't a problem. > > The reason we can't use DHCP is because our networks now both have non-NAT public addresses for each device on the network. We just pulled the cable modem off line because we're getting shot of Virgin Media on Feb 10 and want to get the switch-over done asap. > > So, any ideas anybody? > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 07:03:19 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:03:19 +0100 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe Message-ID: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> Hey people, I'm hoping someone can help me out here. I did this once, but for some reason, now I can't get the same trick to work. I used to click "Account Options" then "Cancel Subscription" on the MobileMe homepage. While VoiceOver has never been able to see the checkbox for agreeing to cancel your subscription, I have always been able to find it with the mouse and check it that way. That no longer seems to work, though. I have always been able to do it, but apparently it no longer works. I can't figure out if it's just me, or if the really screwed up something on the site this time. The mouse is focussed on what is supposed to be the actual checkbox that says "I understand that my data will be deleted from MobileMe and over-the-air sync of contacts, calendars, and bookmarks will stop." At least, this used to be where the checkbox used to be located, though it may not be the case now and VOiceOver just does not know. That site isn't exactly the best for accessibility, so that might be why. Thanks for tips anyone. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From gunn at tznet.com Wed Jan 12 12:31:07 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:31:07 -0600 Subject: Disabling Java Script in Safari Message-ID: Hello All: Just a little because some web pages containing Java Script can raise heck with VO. While in Safari, under advanced make sure developer menu is checked, to disable, while on the page you want to disable under the developer menu VO space on disable java script. This only works for the current session I believe and a shortcut key can be created to toggle on and off. Any sighted users out there might want to try this and especially tell us how the disable jave script is displayed under the developer menu. Creating a shortcut key the sintex of the disable java script must be correct. Have fun and take care, John From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Jan 12 13:10:15 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:10:15 -0400 Subject: Creating and managing folders on the iPhone 4 Message-ID: Hi Folks: Some where, I heard a podcast explaining how to create and manage folders on the iPhone. Can anyone tell me where I can find that animal? Thanks all over the place gang. From bryansmart at bryansmart.com Wed Jan 12 15:12:08 2011 From: bryansmart at bryansmart.com (Bryan Smart) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:12:08 -0500 Subject: VoxKeys 1.2 released with GarageBand support Message-ID: Hi. VoxKeys 1.2 is now available. You can get it from: http://blog.bryansmart.com/voxkeys-project/ The new version adds extensive support for GarageBand. If you use GarageBand, then the new VoxKeys support will dramatically speed up your operation of it. Changes to Netflix broke the Netflix support just after the 1.1 release of VoxKeys, but those problems have been resolved. VoxKeys should now work correctly with the Netflix player. If you'd like to discuss VoxKeys, need help with using it, or if you'd like help with creating your own shortcuts, please join the VoxKeys e-mail list by sending a message to voxkeys+subscribe at googlegroups.com. I try to respond to posts here, but don't always have the free time to read everything. Bryan From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 22:17:23 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:17:23 -0800 Subject: SSD Upgrade Kits Push 2010 MacBook Air Capacity to 360 GB Message-ID: <5445F1AA-6BC0-405C-BB8B-B30C155AE1A6@gmail.com> Will apple include these by default on there next mac book air updates? read more: http://goo.gl/pkryX From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 22:28:37 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:28:37 -0800 Subject: Apple Seeds iOS 4.3 Beta to Developers Message-ID: <7C9C78B8-B5E0-424C-B7FE-4F3A96162B14@gmail.com> Will these features enhance accessibility and productivity for the consumer? read more: http://bit.ly/fmJNjY From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 23:11:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:11:39 -0800 Subject: The Verizon iPhone is not as accessible to deaf and hard of hearing as AT&T's iPhone Message-ID: <91FD15CC-46F6-4DCB-A2A0-E0A0904570D8@gmail.com> How will this impact those of us with hearing troubles? read more: http://ow.ly/3COMr From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 23:15:45 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:15:45 -0800 Subject: When That Call Comes In, an iPhone Hotspot Is Not So Hot [Mobilized] Message-ID: If you get a call while you are sharing that hotspot data transmission will stop. read more: http://bit.ly/gh9YIC From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 03:10:51 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 03:10:51 +0000 Subject: Time Capsule and network methods In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9CB464F8-B292-4114-B33A-D2F6DB77CE94@mac-access.net> Hello Simon On 12 Jan 2011, at 06:16, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > If I understand your dilemma - because I had struggled with it myself a few months ago - the only way I could use my time machine as a device for wireless backing up only was to physically connect it via an ethernet cable to my router. Then airport was able to see it. I didn't want my time capsule to perform any other tasks for me but just be a device on my wireless network. I don't understand why aiport can't identify it if it is not connected physically. > Simon, what make and model of router do you use? I've just asked Gordon and he's told me that there are certain brands of routers which won't work in tandem with the Time Capsule wirelessly, but some will. Are you using your router as a DSL modem as well? If so, in all likelihood you do have one of those routers. Our situation is a bit different because we're not using the average home user's NAT network type. I.E., when you're behind a 192.168.whatever, 10.0.whatever or 172.whatever network. Our router is actually SDSL2+ and all of our IP addresses are exposed unilaterally to the Internet. That's going to bring us a lot of advantages, Gordon says. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 03:13:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 03:13:32 +0000 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> Hello Nic If you are still having this problem please let me know and I will go and have a look visually so I can see what is going on. Lynne On 12 Jan 2011, at 07:03, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hey people, > > I'm hoping someone can help me out here. I did this once, but for some reason, now I can't get the same trick to work. > > I used to click "Account Options" then "Cancel Subscription" on the MobileMe homepage. While VoiceOver has never been able to see the checkbox for agreeing to cancel your subscription, I have always been able to find it with the mouse and check it that way. That no longer seems to work, though. I have always been able to do it, but apparently it no longer works. I can't figure out if it's just me, or if the really screwed up something on the site this time. The mouse is focussed on what is supposed to be the actual checkbox that says "I understand that my data will be deleted from MobileMe and over-the-air sync of contacts, calendars, and bookmarks will stop." At least, this used to be where the checkbox used to be located, though it may not be the case now and VOiceOver just does not know. That site isn't exactly the best for accessibility, so that might be why. > > Thanks for tips anyone. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 05:03:36 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:03:36 -0800 Subject: Rumor: Apple to remove home button from next iPhone/iPad Message-ID: I just don't know what to make of this. if it is true I will miss my home button! Now photo booth? I look forward to that. All of this is a roomer but we'll see in the next year or so. http://j.mp/e3M4Z2 (doubt) From simoncavendish at me.com Thu Jan 13 06:40:05 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:40:05 +0000 Subject: Time Capsule and network methods In-Reply-To: <9CB464F8-B292-4114-B33A-D2F6DB77CE94@mac-access.net> References: <9CB464F8-B292-4114-B33A-D2F6DB77CE94@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Dear Lynne, Ah yes, I have a Linksys router and am using it as a dsl modem as well. So I guess I am in that unfortunate cattegory. Thanks for this, Lynne. On 13 Jan 2011, at 03:10, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Simon > > On 12 Jan 2011, at 06:16, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > >> If I understand your dilemma - because I had struggled with it myself a few months ago - the only way I could use my time machine as a device for wireless backing up only was to physically connect it via an ethernet cable to my router. Then airport was able to see it. I didn't want my time capsule to perform any other tasks for me but just be a device on my wireless network. I don't understand why aiport can't identify it if it is not connected physically. >> > Simon, what make and model of router do you use? I've just asked Gordon and he's told me that there are certain brands of routers which won't work in tandem with the Time Capsule wirelessly, but some will. > > Are you using your router as a DSL modem as well? If so, in all likelihood you do have one of those routers. > > Our situation is a bit different because we're not using the average home user's NAT network type. I.E., when you're behind a 192.168.whatever, 10.0.whatever or 172.whatever network. Our router is actually SDSL2+ and all of our IP addresses are exposed unilaterally to the Internet. > > That's going to bring us a lot of advantages, Gordon says. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 06:46:12 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:46:12 +0100 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> Hi Lynne, Yeah, still having it. I've been struggling with it for a few days now without success, unfortunately. This used to be at least doable, but not so sure at this point. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 13:25:58 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:25:58 +0000 Subject: Taking Screen Shots without being able to see the screen Message-ID: <49ABE22A-FE16-41AE-AAC2-8C5B6722EE1A@mac-access.net> Hello everyone, Can anyone please give me some advice on taking Screen Shots from a Blindness perspective. Is it necessary to be able to see to do this? Thanks Take care J E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) Twitter: lnt2008 From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Thu Jan 13 14:36:47 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:36:47 +0000 Subject: Taking Screen Shots without being able to see the screen In-Reply-To: <49ABE22A-FE16-41AE-AAC2-8C5B6722EE1A@mac-access.net> References: <49ABE22A-FE16-41AE-AAC2-8C5B6722EE1A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <24FBA4A4-0060-47BF-91A4-D9B7CC148F2D@gmail.com> Hi James! To take a screen shot of the whole window use command+shift+3 and if you want to put your screen shot into the clip board just add option to the above command! There is also a command to select a certain part of a window but from what I red you need to reshape the item in question! So if a whole screen shot will do that command should do it! hth Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 13 Jan 2011, at 13:25, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Can anyone please give me some advice on taking Screen Shots from a Blindness perspective. Is it necessary to be able to see to do this? > > Thanks > Take care > J > > E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) > Twitter: lnt2008 > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 15:09:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:09:32 +0000 Subject: Time Capsule and network methods In-Reply-To: References: <9CB464F8-B292-4114-B33A-D2F6DB77CE94@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1A5B4BD7-AE0E-4615-A5B9-030B0DD69E5A@mac-access.net> Hello Simon On 13 Jan 2011, at 06:40, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > ? Ah yes, I have a Linksys router and am using it as a dsl modem as well. So I guess I am in that unfortunate cattegory. > It can be made to work, but I am not sure how Gordon did it. OK, he's just explaining it now. He didn't change any settings in the Time Capsule, except for the DNS and the IP address. But what he did do is disable the wireless network on the router we were using at the time. That way there's only one and the router functions just as though it were connected to a cable modem. In your case it would be even easier because all you have to do is disable the wireless networking on your DSL router, and leave the Time Capsule set to use DHCP. That will work fine, so says Gordon. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 15:12:21 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:12:21 +0000 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> Hello Nic On 13 Jan 2011, at 06:46, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > ? Yeah, still having it. I've been struggling with it for a few days now without success, unfortunately. This used to be at least doable, but not so sure at this point. > The other way around the problem is to disable auto-payments. Then, when the account expires, simply don't renew it and you have 15 days of grace before your account bites the dust. Would it help if I go to the site and look? Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 15:15:07 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:15:07 +0000 Subject: Taking Screen Shots without being able to see the screen In-Reply-To: <49ABE22A-FE16-41AE-AAC2-8C5B6722EE1A@mac-access.net> References: <49ABE22A-FE16-41AE-AAC2-8C5B6722EE1A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello James On 13 Jan 2011, at 13:25, James AUSTIN wrote: > ? Can anyone please give me some advice on taking Screen Shots from a Blindness perspective. Is it necessary to be able to see to do this? You can do this fine without being able to see the screen. Just make sure your mouse is in the active window. (you can do that using VoiceOver's mouse controls). If it is, your screen shot should work fine. Gordon's had to do that several times for developers; and nobody has had any problems. Lynne From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 15:54:48 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:54:48 +0100 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> Hi Lynne, Thanks for that. I never even thought to use that option. I'd prefer to kill off the account immediately, but the grace period is alright as well. If you wouldn't mind having a look at the site, though, I'd be grateful. Thanks in advance. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 16:04:14 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:04:14 +0000 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Nic On 13 Jan 2011, at 15:54, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > ? Thanks for that. I never even thought to use that option. I'd prefer to kill off the account immediately, but the grace period is alright as well. If you wouldn't mind having a look at the site, though, I'd be grateful. I need to be a little bit careful; I don't want to cancel our account accidentally. This is just a thought Nic, and of course you can rely on my total discretion if you take this option. | Some on this list know me personally and they will vouch for my honesty I'm sure. If you'd like me to cancel the account for you, please feel free to contact me privately and we'll go from there. I totally understand though if you're not comfortable with that. Regardless though, I will have a look at the site now. Just remind me of the URL again would you to get to the accounts section? Lynne From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Thu Jan 13 18:56:48 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:56:48 +0000 Subject: Taking Screen Shots without being able to see the screen In-Reply-To: <49ABE22A-FE16-41AE-AAC2-8C5B6722EE1A@mac-access.net> References: <49ABE22A-FE16-41AE-AAC2-8C5B6722EE1A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <12F68027-BEEF-4FB5-B035-7CDEE13791DA@googlemail.com> HI James. I take screenshots all the time at college for some of my assignment and you don't have to see exactly. You have to see to know where it is on the screen but you can do the screen shot without sight, providing you know where you are when you do the screenshot. Then it is just a matter of CommandC and CommandV when focused on the document you want to put the screenshot into. Take care. Lewis. On 13 Jan 2011, at 13:25, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Can anyone please give me some advice on taking Screen Shots from a Blindness perspective. Is it necessary to be able to see to do this? > > Thanks > Take care > J > > E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) > Twitter: lnt2008 > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 19:05:28 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:05:28 +0000 Subject: Take Control of Mac OSX Backups Message-ID: Hello everybody If anybody owns this book and is prompted to update, (as the fifth edition is now available), we might be able to help. The discount offer is still active, so you'd got 80% off the retail price instead of 50% If you're new to Take Control books, they are the ultimate in documentation relating to a number of Mac topics and iOS topics. For a full listing of what is available, go to the Take Control website, look at the catalogue and decide on your books (but don't buy them there and then). Make a note of what you want and come back to and we'll sort you out with an 80% discount, as long as you are alright with paying by PayPal. The Take Control website is here: Lynne From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Jan 13 19:30:11 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:30:11 -0600 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> Message-ID: <705AFBE2-A823-4FC5-8398-53BA2AAB94CC@softcon.com> This is exactly why I have (and will) not renew my mobile me account, it is not possible to renew or cancel the account on your own w/o sighted assistance. When I let my mobile me account die a few years ago, I told apple exactly why I was killing it, and I see they've done absolutely nothing to fix the issue since then. Well, guess mobile me remains a service I won't use then. A shame really, since it does have some benefits. But, nothing I can't do via other means, just more work. :) From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 20:20:33 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:20:33 -0800 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> Message-ID: <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> Has anyone contacted apple accessibility about this or is this not an apple partner? I don't know about mobile me as I don't use it. lol! S On Jan 13, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hi Nic > > On 13 Jan 2011, at 15:54, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> ? Thanks for that. I never even thought to use that option. I'd prefer to kill off the account immediately, but the grace period is alright as well. If you wouldn't mind having a look at the site, though, I'd be grateful. > > I need to be a little bit careful; I don't want to cancel our account accidentally. This is just a thought Nic, and of course you can rely on my total discretion if you take this option. | Some on this list know me personally and they will vouch for my honesty I'm sure. > > If you'd like me to cancel the account for you, please feel free to contact me privately and we'll go from there. I totally understand though if you're not comfortable with that. Regardless though, I will have a look at the site now. Just remind me of the URL again would you to get to the accounts section? > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 20:29:17 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:29:17 +0100 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah, MobileMe is Apple's own service, and Apple knows about it. I know a lot of people, including myself, have written to them several times and even called them. Of course, I'm not entirely certain that complaining to the Danish Apple on the phone actually resulted in my complaint being forwarded to the appropriate department. I hope that is the case regardless of which Apple you are complaining to, though. I also hear that a lot of MobileMe is being updated soon to reflect recent changes in much more advanced synchronization which other services use, so that might just include accessibility changes. Hopefully, that also means they will clear out some of the bugs, such as currently starting to call it your Apple ID as opposed to your MobileMe account. One example is on the front page. It says "Forgot your Apple ID or password?" when you clearly still need to use MobileMe information to sign in or retrieve passwords. And, even if you can use both identification options, that would just make it sound like MobileMe should really just be combined into your Apple ID as optional services and be tied to your Apple ID in question. At any rate, it was pretty misleading when I had to reset my own password. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 20:44:26 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:44:26 -0800 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2FF818CC-3F71-4F62-8145-236B23083BC9@gmail.com> Ok that spins my head but I would still email accessibility at apple.com as they are the access team. lol! Godo luck. On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > MobileMe is Apple's own service, and Apple knows about it. I know a lot of people, including myself, have written to them several times and even called them. Of course, I'm not entirely certain that complaining to the Danish Apple on the phone actually resulted in my complaint being forwarded to the appropriate department. I hope that is the case regardless of which Apple you are complaining to, though. > > I also hear that a lot of MobileMe is being updated soon to reflect recent changes in much more advanced synchronization which other services use, so that might just include accessibility changes. > > Hopefully, that also means they will clear out some of the bugs, such as currently starting to call it your Apple ID as opposed to your MobileMe account. One example is on the front page. It says "Forgot your Apple ID or password?" when you clearly still need to use MobileMe information to sign in or retrieve passwords. And, even if you can use both identification options, that would just make it sound like MobileMe should really just be combined into your Apple ID as optional services and be tied to your Apple ID in question. At any rate, it was pretty misleading when I had to reset my own password. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 20:45:42 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:45:42 -0800 Subject: notes beeing synced over the air? Message-ID: Hello. I noticed yesterday my notes were being synced with my iphone over the air. I often wrote my notes on my computer so would they be transferred some how to my iphone with out my plugging it in? I don't have mobil me so I'm kind of stumped. Take care. S From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 20:47:31 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:47:31 +0100 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <2FF818CC-3F71-4F62-8145-236B23083BC9@gmail.com> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> <2FF818CC-3F71-4F62-8145-236B23083BC9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, I already did, including the phone calls. :) So we'll wait and see if the new addition includes accessibility changes. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Thu Jan 13 21:08:02 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:08:02 +0000 Subject: Backup solutions help please Message-ID: I note there is a new Take Control book out on backing up your data. Before purchasing this (I really DO need to back up my data), are any of the solutions that will be suggested in the book going to be accessible? Do I start with Time Machine, or jump into something else? I know this has been discussed before, and also that people have very personal opinions of what software suits them or even works with VO, but I would welcome advice - or am I opening a can or worms here? :) From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Thu Jan 13 21:13:39 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:13:39 +0000 Subject: Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac Message-ID: Hello all (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? Any help welcomed please. Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 21:20:08 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:20:08 +0000 Subject: notes beeing synced over the air? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A6C7ACC-8832-40BC-824F-1CB7DED1B7E6@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah, If you are using Wi-Fi, and a syncing service like Simple Note, this is certainly possible. Take care James On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:45, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. I noticed yesterday my notes were being synced with my iphone over the air. I often wrote my notes on my computer so would they be transferred some how to my iphone with out my plugging it in? I don't have mobil me so I'm kind of stumped. > > Take care. > > S > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Thu Jan 13 21:33:41 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:33:41 +0000 Subject: Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EE1862D-FE58-4D0D-B1D3-F4CD0D01B049@gmail.com> Hi Dennis! I'm pretty sure that you have to label them yourself! Its likely that the people who set up the app did not label them! At least you have help tags some apps do not have that either so you have no clue what there for! Very annoying! :] Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:13, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello all > (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). > I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? > Any help welcomed please. > Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Thu Jan 13 21:42:27 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:42:27 +0000 Subject: Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac In-Reply-To: <1EE1862D-FE58-4D0D-B1D3-F4CD0D01B049@gmail.com> References: <1EE1862D-FE58-4D0D-B1D3-F4CD0D01B049@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1D9609D7-C218-4565-9947-38FDF7F5FC29@thejazzden.org.uk> Hello Colin Well, even if someone tells me this is not the case for this particular app, it will be a good exercise for me in labelling checkboxes. :) I've not tried this yet - a little scared of messing things up, but, well, if you don't try you'll never know, will you? Thanks again. On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:33, Colin M wrote: > Hi Dennis! > I'm pretty sure that you have to label them yourself! > Its likely that the people who set up the app did not label them! > At least you have help tags some apps do not have that either so you have no clue what there for! > Very annoying! :] > Colin > I'm far too bad for Heaven! > The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! > > On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:13, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> Hello all >> (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). >> I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? >> Any help welcomed please. >> Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 21:47:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:47:50 -0800 Subject: Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac In-Reply-To: <1D9609D7-C218-4565-9947-38FDF7F5FC29@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <1EE1862D-FE58-4D0D-B1D3-F4CD0D01B049@gmail.com> <1D9609D7-C218-4565-9947-38FDF7F5FC29@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: and sometimes I notice labeles don't tick so be aware of that. S On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello Colin > Well, even if someone tells me this is not the case for this particular app, it will be a good exercise for me in labelling checkboxes. :) I've not tried this yet - a little scared of messing things up, but, well, if you don't try you'll never know, will you? > Thanks again. > > On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:33, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi Dennis! >> I'm pretty sure that you have to label them yourself! >> Its likely that the people who set up the app did not label them! >> At least you have help tags some apps do not have that either so you have no clue what there for! >> Very annoying! :] >> Colin >> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! >> >> On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:13, Dennis Freedman wrote: >> >>> Hello all >>> (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). >>> I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? >>> Any help welcomed please. >>> Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 22:00:28 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:00:28 -0800 Subject: notes beeing synced over the air? In-Reply-To: <3A6C7ACC-8832-40BC-824F-1CB7DED1B7E6@mac-access.net> References: <3A6C7ACC-8832-40BC-824F-1CB7DED1B7E6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8B889BE5-E1FB-43C6-985C-0B924F3544DD@gmail.com> No I'm using just th enotes app as far as I am aware. the notes app onthe iphone and the notes feature on mail. I don't see how this could be happening thouygh. confused. On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:20 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > If you are using Wi-Fi, and a syncing service like Simple Note, this is certainly possible. > > Take care > James > On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:45, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello. I noticed yesterday my notes were being synced with my iphone over the air. I often wrote my notes on my computer so would they be transferred some how to my iphone with out my plugging it in? I don't have mobil me so I'm kind of stumped. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Thu Jan 13 22:09:09 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:09:09 +0000 Subject: notes beeing synced over the air? In-Reply-To: <8B889BE5-E1FB-43C6-985C-0B924F3544DD@gmail.com> References: <3A6C7ACC-8832-40BC-824F-1CB7DED1B7E6@mac-access.net> <8B889BE5-E1FB-43C6-985C-0B924F3544DD@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi there! Now this is a wild guess! Could it be doing it through bluetooth? Only guessing! :] Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No I'm using just th enotes app as far as I am aware. the notes app onthe iphone and the notes feature on mail. I don't see how this could be happening thouygh. confused. > On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:20 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> If you are using Wi-Fi, and a syncing service like Simple Note, this is certainly possible. >> >> Take care >> James >> On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:45, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Hello. I noticed yesterday my notes were being synced with my iphone over the air. I often wrote my notes on my computer so would they be transferred some how to my iphone with out my plugging it in? I don't have mobil me so I'm kind of stumped. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> S >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 22:13:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:13:19 -0800 Subject: notes beeing synced over the air? In-Reply-To: References: <3A6C7ACC-8832-40BC-824F-1CB7DED1B7E6@mac-access.net> <8B889BE5-E1FB-43C6-985C-0B924F3544DD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18FD6BD5-EC66-4EF3-A38D-037044E2E72F@gmail.com> No my bt is turned off. S On Jan 13, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi there! > Now this is a wild guess! > Could it be doing it through bluetooth? > Only guessing! :] > Colin > I'm far too bad for Heaven! > The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! > > On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No I'm using just th enotes app as far as I am aware. the notes app onthe iphone and the notes feature on mail. I don't see how this could be happening thouygh. confused. >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:20 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> If you are using Wi-Fi, and a syncing service like Simple Note, this is certainly possible. >>> >>> Take care >>> James >>> On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:45, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Hello. I noticed yesterday my notes were being synced with my iphone over the air. I often wrote my notes on my computer so would they be transferred some how to my iphone with out my plugging it in? I don't have mobil me so I'm kind of stumped. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> S >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 22:18:25 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:18:25 +0000 Subject: notes beeing synced over the air? In-Reply-To: <18FD6BD5-EC66-4EF3-A38D-037044E2E72F@gmail.com> References: <3A6C7ACC-8832-40BC-824F-1CB7DED1B7E6@mac-access.net> <8B889BE5-E1FB-43C6-985C-0B924F3544DD@gmail.com> <18FD6BD5-EC66-4EF3-A38D-037044E2E72F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9BA97BC3-EB93-48BF-A92B-6602E2E7A1C8@mac-access.net> How about AirPlay, just a wild guess. Take care james On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:13, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No my bt is turned off. > > S > On Jan 13, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi there! >> Now this is a wild guess! >> Could it be doing it through bluetooth? >> Only guessing! :] >> Colin >> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! >> >> On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> No I'm using just th enotes app as far as I am aware. the notes app onthe iphone and the notes feature on mail. I don't see how this could be happening thouygh. confused. >>> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:20 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sarah, >>>> >>>> If you are using Wi-Fi, and a syncing service like Simple Note, this is certainly possible. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> James >>>> On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:45, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello. I noticed yesterday my notes were being synced with my iphone over the air. I often wrote my notes on my computer so would they be transferred some how to my iphone with out my plugging it in? I don't have mobil me so I'm kind of stumped. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 22:25:41 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:25:41 -0800 Subject: notes beeing synced over the air? In-Reply-To: <9BA97BC3-EB93-48BF-A92B-6602E2E7A1C8@mac-access.net> References: <3A6C7ACC-8832-40BC-824F-1CB7DED1B7E6@mac-access.net> <8B889BE5-E1FB-43C6-985C-0B924F3544DD@gmail.com> <18FD6BD5-EC66-4EF3-A38D-037044E2E72F@gmail.com> <9BA97BC3-EB93-48BF-A92B-6602E2E7A1C8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <88019153-2376-4067-80EA-BC0A69C68D25@gmail.com> I don't know what that is nd I tested the over the air thing and it never showd up on my iphone the note I created on my computer. Here is the message I get. Your notes are being synced over the air. Your notes will also sync directly with this computer. This may result in duplicated data showing on your device. I tried unchecking the sync notes and it only said my notes sync over the air now except they don't update. There were some duplicates btw. S On Jan 13, 2011, at 2:18 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > How about AirPlay, just a wild guess. > > Take care > james > On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:13, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No my bt is turned off. >> >> S >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi there! >>> Now this is a wild guess! >>> Could it be doing it through bluetooth? >>> Only guessing! :] >>> Colin >>> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >>> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! >>> >>> On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> No I'm using just th enotes app as far as I am aware. the notes app onthe iphone and the notes feature on mail. I don't see how this could be happening thouygh. confused. >>>> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:20 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Sarah, >>>>> >>>>> If you are using Wi-Fi, and a syncing service like Simple Note, this is certainly possible. >>>>> >>>>> Take care >>>>> James >>>>> On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:45, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello. I noticed yesterday my notes were being synced with my iphone over the air. I often wrote my notes on my computer so would they be transferred some how to my iphone with out my plugging it in? I don't have mobil me so I'm kind of stumped. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Thu Jan 13 22:39:05 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:39:05 +0000 Subject: DJ - Getting to the mic volume - was Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac In-Reply-To: References: <1EE1862D-FE58-4D0D-B1D3-F4CD0D01B049@gmail.com> <1D9609D7-C218-4565-9947-38FDF7F5FC29@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Sarah et al OK, all labelling sorted, got the hand of the automix and adding songs or playlists to library. Can use the internal mic in the mix, but there's a window that pops up in the Audio Effects window which contains the mic volume slider. Hmm, how to adjust the volume, or in other wolds how to get to that window? On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:47, Sarah Alawami wrote: > and sometimes I notice labels don't tick so be aware of that. > > S > On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> Hello Colin >> Well, even if someone tells me this is not the case for this particular app, it will be a good exercise for me in labelling checkboxes. :) I've not tried this yet - a little scared of messing things up, but, well, if you don't try you'll never know, will you? >> Thanks again. >> >> On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:33, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi Dennis! >>> I'm pretty sure that you have to label them yourself! >>> Its likely that the people who set up the app did not label them! >>> At least you have help tags some apps do not have that either so you have no clue what there for! >>> Very annoying! :] >>> Colin >>> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >>> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! >>> >>> On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:13, Dennis Freedman wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all >>>> (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). >>>> I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? >>>> Any help welcomed please. >>>> Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jekis at fastmail.us Thu Jan 13 22:48:41 2011 From: jekis at fastmail.us (Justin Ekis) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:48:41 -0800 Subject: Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01A2C272-B952-4EFD-AB13-DBCAECADE32A@fastmail.us> Hi Dennis, You can also set voiceover to read the help tags more quickly. This is what I have done. You change two settings to make this most efficient. In the verbosity category of voiceover utility, you'll see a set of tabs. Press VO space on the hints tab. The first option, "speak instructions for using the item in the voiceover cursor." This is what causes the "You are on a checkbox" messages. You can uncheck this and these messages will not be spoken before the help tag. If you don't know how to work a control, press VO shift n to hear the same message on demand. The next option on that same tab is called "speak hints after delay." By default, I think this is set to 5 seconds. I pulled it all the way down to 0.4 seconds, which reads help tags instantly. Now, it's just like they are labeled. Hope this helps. Justin On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: Hello all (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? Any help welcomed please. Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Thu Jan 13 23:02:44 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:02:44 +0000 Subject: Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac In-Reply-To: <01A2C272-B952-4EFD-AB13-DBCAECADE32A@fastmail.us> References: <01A2C272-B952-4EFD-AB13-DBCAECADE32A@fastmail.us> Message-ID: Hello Justin All I can say is - Wow! I'd better save my settings as I know I'll forget how to get that back if I accidentally change it/! :) Thanks that's brilliant. On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:48, Justin Ekis wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > You can also set voiceover to read the help tags more quickly. This is what I have done. You change two settings to make this most efficient. > > In the verbosity category of voiceover utility, you'll see a set of tabs. Press VO space on the hints tab. The first option, "speak instructions for using the item in the voiceover cursor." This is what causes the "You are on a checkbox" messages. You can uncheck this and these messages will not be spoken before the help tag. If you don't know how to work a control, press VO shift n to hear the same message on demand. The next option on that same tab is called "speak hints after delay." By default, I think this is set to 5 seconds. I pulled it all the way down to 0.4 seconds, which reads help tags instantly. Now, it's just like they are labeled. > > Hope this helps. > > Justin > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > > Hello all > (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). > I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? > Any help welcomed please. > Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Thu Jan 13 23:15:33 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:15:33 +0000 Subject: Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac In-Reply-To: References: <01A2C272-B952-4EFD-AB13-DBCAECADE32A@fastmail.us> Message-ID: <5B43F9B9-1049-4FDD-B5D8-9423FDFA823B@thejazzden.org.uk> OK Folks have solved my mic problem. I remembered dimly the window chooser but couldn't find it or when I did, I couldn't get it to work. The reason, of course, being that, using the new IMac keyboard, you either have to change F-keys to software (to access the VO F-keys for such things as Application or Window Chooser, where your VO cursor is, etc. Or you can press FN key with the VO keys and the relevant function key if you don't want to change from hardware F-Keys permanently which does such things as control brightness or operates Itunes media player controls). So all solved, but have I learned a lot tonight! Thanks again. On 13 Jan 2011, at 23:02, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello Justin > All I can say is - Wow! > I'd better save my settings as I know I'll forget how to get that back if I accidentally change it/! :) > Thanks that's brilliant. > > On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:48, Justin Ekis wrote: > >> Hi Dennis, >> >> You can also set voiceover to read the help tags more quickly. This is what I have done. You change two settings to make this most efficient. >> >> In the verbosity category of voiceover utility, you'll see a set of tabs. Press VO space on the hints tab. The first option, "speak instructions for using the item in the voiceover cursor." This is what causes the "You are on a checkbox" messages. You can uncheck this and these messages will not be spoken before the help tag. If you don't know how to work a control, press VO shift n to hear the same message on demand. The next option on that same tab is called "speak hints after delay." By default, I think this is set to 5 seconds. I pulled it all the way down to 0.4 seconds, which reads help tags instantly. Now, it's just like they are labeled. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Justin >> >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: >> >> Hello all >> (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). >> I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? >> Any help welcomed please. >> Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 23:21:30 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:21:30 +0000 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> Message-ID: Helo Sarah On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:20, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Has anyone contacted apple accessibility about this or is this not an apple partner? I don't know about mobile me as I don't use it. lol! Gordon says he wrote to them quite a while ago and they said they were aware of the problem and it was under investigation. Since then, they seem to have done absolutely nothing. In actual fact, that page is incredibly difficult using the current version of Safari even without VoiceOver. I'm trying as I write to help Nic; but the entire page keeps freezing. As in I try to drag the mouse and it will not make the next item active. Lynne From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 23:27:12 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:27:12 +0000 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <2FF818CC-3F71-4F62-8145-236B23083BC9@gmail.com> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> <2FF818CC-3F71-4F62-8145-236B23083BC9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <75001551-D016-47B1-B82D-1130AF411574@mac-access.net> I have just written to somebody at Apple who I know, he's above the general accessibility team. Gordon On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:44, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Ok that spins my head but I would still email accessibility at apple.com as they are the access team. lol! > > Godo luck. > On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> MobileMe is Apple's own service, and Apple knows about it. I know a lot of people, including myself, have written to them several times and even called them. Of course, I'm not entirely certain that complaining to the Danish Apple on the phone actually resulted in my complaint being forwarded to the appropriate department. I hope that is the case regardless of which Apple you are complaining to, though. >> >> I also hear that a lot of MobileMe is being updated soon to reflect recent changes in much more advanced synchronization which other services use, so that might just include accessibility changes. >> >> Hopefully, that also means they will clear out some of the bugs, such as currently starting to call it your Apple ID as opposed to your MobileMe account. One example is on the front page. It says "Forgot your Apple ID or password?" when you clearly still need to use MobileMe information to sign in or retrieve passwords. And, even if you can use both identification options, that would just make it sound like MobileMe should really just be combined into your Apple ID as optional services and be tied to your Apple ID in question. At any rate, it was pretty misleading when I had to reset my own password. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 23:28:43 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:28:43 +0000 Subject: Backup solutions help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63363833-0260-4C36-BF25-13A12487C40B@mac-access.net> Dennis; come to us, we can give you the discount. Gordon On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:08, Dennis Freedman wrote: > I note there is a new Take Control book out on backing up your data. Before purchasing this (I really DO need to back up my data), are any of the solutions that will be suggested in the book going to be accessible? Do I start with Time Machine, or jump into something else? > I know this has been discussed before, and also that people have very personal opinions of what software suits them or even works with VO, but I would welcome advice - or am I opening a can or worms here? :) > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 23:28:59 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:28:59 -0800 Subject: Survey Claims 26% of AT&T iPhone Customers Planning to Switch to Verizon Message-ID: <90C6CFA2-284A-4469-9323-27F37A07E931@gmail.com> Will this hurt at&t or will this make the call drop decrease from 4 percent to below Vz's 1 percent? From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jan 13 23:30:20 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:30:20 +0000 Subject: Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Dennis Sorry for not getting back to you. My father has just been diagnosed with prostate cancer, for the second god-damned time! I will get back to you asap. Gordon On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:13, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello all > (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). > I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? > Any help welcomed please. > Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 23:31:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:31:47 -0800 Subject: Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac In-Reply-To: References: <01A2C272-B952-4EFD-AB13-DBCAECADE32A@fastmail.us> Message-ID: Hey! nice hint. I dunno how i missed that! Yeah! S On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello Justin > All I can say is - Wow! > I'd better save my settings as I know I'll forget how to get that back if I accidentally change it/! :) > Thanks that's brilliant. > > On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:48, Justin Ekis wrote: > >> Hi Dennis, >> >> You can also set voiceover to read the help tags more quickly. This is what I have done. You change two settings to make this most efficient. >> >> In the verbosity category of voiceover utility, you'll see a set of tabs. Press VO space on the hints tab. The first option, "speak instructions for using the item in the voiceover cursor." This is what causes the "You are on a checkbox" messages. You can uncheck this and these messages will not be spoken before the help tag. If you don't know how to work a control, press VO shift n to hear the same message on demand. The next option on that same tab is called "speak hints after delay." By default, I think this is set to 5 seconds. I pulled it all the way down to 0.4 seconds, which reads help tags instantly. Now, it's just like they are labeled. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Justin >> >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: >> >> Hello all >> (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). >> I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? >> Any help welcomed please. >> Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 23:34:04 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:34:04 -0800 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <75001551-D016-47B1-B82D-1130AF411574@mac-access.net> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> <2FF818CC-3F71-4F62-8145-236B23083BC9@gmail.com> <75001551-D016-47B1-B82D-1130AF411574@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8CFADC58-46ED-467D-948D-78460CCC3DB6@gmail.com> cool keep us posted if at all possibil. Good luck. On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > I have just written to somebody at Apple who I know, he's above the general accessibility team. > > Gordon > > On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:44, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ok that spins my head but I would still email accessibility at apple.com as they are the access team. lol! >> >> Godo luck. >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> MobileMe is Apple's own service, and Apple knows about it. I know a lot of people, including myself, have written to them several times and even called them. Of course, I'm not entirely certain that complaining to the Danish Apple on the phone actually resulted in my complaint being forwarded to the appropriate department. I hope that is the case regardless of which Apple you are complaining to, though. >>> >>> I also hear that a lot of MobileMe is being updated soon to reflect recent changes in much more advanced synchronization which other services use, so that might just include accessibility changes. >>> >>> Hopefully, that also means they will clear out some of the bugs, such as currently starting to call it your Apple ID as opposed to your MobileMe account. One example is on the front page. It says "Forgot your Apple ID or password?" when you clearly still need to use MobileMe information to sign in or retrieve passwords. And, even if you can use both identification options, that would just make it sound like MobileMe should really just be combined into your Apple ID as optional services and be tied to your Apple ID in question. At any rate, it was pretty misleading when I had to reset my own password. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Fri Jan 14 00:07:18 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:07:18 +0000 Subject: Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac In-Reply-To: References: <01A2C272-B952-4EFD-AB13-DBCAECADE32A@fastmail.us> Message-ID: <24A8F588-6A8C-4DE5-A9AC-233FC4085DA4@gmail.com> Hi Justin! Nice one! Love it! Thanks! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 13 Jan 2011, at 23:31, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hey! nice hint. I dunno how i missed that! Yeah! > > S > On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> Hello Justin >> All I can say is - Wow! >> I'd better save my settings as I know I'll forget how to get that back if I accidentally change it/! :) >> Thanks that's brilliant. >> >> On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:48, Justin Ekis wrote: >> >>> Hi Dennis, >>> >>> You can also set voiceover to read the help tags more quickly. This is what I have done. You change two settings to make this most efficient. >>> >>> In the verbosity category of voiceover utility, you'll see a set of tabs. Press VO space on the hints tab. The first option, "speak instructions for using the item in the voiceover cursor." This is what causes the "You are on a checkbox" messages. You can uncheck this and these messages will not be spoken before the help tag. If you don't know how to work a control, press VO shift n to hear the same message on demand. The next option on that same tab is called "speak hints after delay." By default, I think this is set to 5 seconds. I pulled it all the way down to 0.4 seconds, which reads help tags instantly. Now, it's just like they are labeled. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Justin >>> >>> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: >>> >>> Hello all >>> (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). >>> I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? >>> Any help welcomed please. >>> Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 00:20:01 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:20:01 -0500 Subject: burning a disk from a playlist Message-ID: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> I've created a playlist in iTunes, and the tracks are in the specific order I need them to be. However, when I burn the disk, the tracks burn alphabetically. Any help in correting this problem would be very much appreciated. Marcy From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 00:24:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:24:48 -0800 Subject: burning a disk from a playlist In-Reply-To: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> References: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> Message-ID: <72DBB32E-726F-4669-9DF0-0F59C670462C@gmail.com> Did you sourt up by number? I've done that too and found that works. S On Jan 13, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > I've created a playlist in iTunes, and the tracks are in the specific order I need them to be. However, when I burn the disk, the tracks burn alphabetically. > > Any help in correting this problem would be very much appreciated. > > Marcy > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Fri Jan 14 02:40:08 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:40:08 -0600 Subject: Backup solutions help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Time machine is a good way to back up everything, but it won't create an external volume that you can boot from. For that, check out carbon copy cloner or super duper. On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > I note there is a new Take Control book out on backing up your data. Before purchasing this (I really DO need to back up my data), are any of the solutions that will be suggested in the book going to be accessible? Do I start with Time Machine, or jump into something else? > I know this has been discussed before, and also that people have very personal opinions of what software suits them or even works with VO, but I would welcome advice - or am I opening a can or worms here? :) > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 03:03:25 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:03:25 -0500 Subject: Backup solutions help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <257E556E-9596-4C49-BB19-C82C47AD3882@gmail.com> Hi, I have 3 macs, can I back up all of them on the same disc with Carbon Copy cloner, or is there a better program for this? Courtney On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:40 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Time machine is a good way to back up everything, but it won't create an external volume that you can boot from. For that, check out carbon copy cloner or super duper. > On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> I note there is a new Take Control book out on backing up your data. Before purchasing this (I really DO need to back up my data), are any of the solutions that will be suggested in the book going to be accessible? Do I start with Time Machine, or jump into something else? >> I know this has been discussed before, and also that people have very personal opinions of what software suits them or even works with VO, but I would welcome advice - or am I opening a can or worms here? :) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simoncavendish at me.com Fri Jan 14 06:26:52 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:26:52 +0000 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> Message-ID: <450CB0C5-1CE2-46D5-9ABA-5716B6667BE4@me.com> I too find mobileme impossible. I have subscribed because it offers the syncing capabilities and etc. but I almost regret it now because I feel I have so little control over it. I feel stuck now because my messages and the like are on it and I do not know hwether there is an alternative that would be more accessible and do the job as well. Shame. With best, Simon On 13 Jan 2011, at 23:21, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Helo Sarah > > On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:20, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Has anyone contacted apple accessibility about this or is this not an apple partner? I don't know about mobile me as I don't use it. lol! > > Gordon says he wrote to them quite a while ago and they said they were aware of the problem and it was under investigation. Since then, they seem to have done absolutely nothing. > > In actual fact, that page is incredibly difficult using the current version of Safari even without VoiceOver. I'm trying as I write to help Nic; but the entire page keeps freezing. As in I try to drag the mouse and it will not make the next item active. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simoncavendish at me.com Fri Jan 14 06:31:10 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:31:10 +0000 Subject: Backup solutions help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've been using Superduper to creatte bootable copies of my drive and Superduper works very well with voiceover. A clear guide comes with it as well under the help menu. Simon On 14 Jan 2011, at 02:40, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Time machine is a good way to back up everything, but it won't create an external volume that you can boot from. For that, check out carbon copy cloner or super duper. > On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> I note there is a new Take Control book out on backing up your data. Before purchasing this (I really DO need to back up my data), are any of the solutions that will be suggested in the book going to be accessible? Do I start with Time Machine, or jump into something else? >> I know this has been discussed before, and also that people have very personal opinions of what software suits them or even works with VO, but I would welcome advice - or am I opening a can or worms here? :) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 07:14:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:14:50 -0800 Subject: Backup solutions help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DAD0E0B-5A8B-49DB-BF3D-6E2FD2368FF5@gmail.com> I've heard good things about CCC and super duper. I've often debated buying a cheap drive just to make a bootable of my mac just in case I needed to test something on it or if I needed to work someware else for a while on someone else;s mac. S On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:31 PM, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > I've been using Superduper to creatte bootable copies of my drive and Superduper works very well with voiceover. A clear guide comes with it as well under the help menu. > > Simon > On 14 Jan 2011, at 02:40, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Time machine is a good way to back up everything, but it won't create an external volume that you can boot from. For that, check out carbon copy cloner or super duper. >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: >> >>> I note there is a new Take Control book out on backing up your data. Before purchasing this (I really DO need to back up my data), are any of the solutions that will be suggested in the book going to be accessible? Do I start with Time Machine, or jump into something else? >>> I know this has been discussed before, and also that people have very personal opinions of what software suits them or even works with VO, but I would welcome advice - or am I opening a can or worms here? :) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From phonerossy at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 08:24:44 2011 From: phonerossy at gmail.com (rossy) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:24:44 +0100 Subject: notes beeing synced over the air? In-Reply-To: <8B889BE5-E1FB-43C6-985C-0B924F3544DD@gmail.com> References: <3A6C7ACC-8832-40BC-824F-1CB7DED1B7E6@mac-access.net> <8B889BE5-E1FB-43C6-985C-0B924F3544DD@gmail.com> Message-ID: hi sara , i noticed that you use gmail and it lets you sink your notes . if you don't like to use this feature, you must go to the account set up and turn it off from there . i always used this feature and find it great . since i pass a lot of time with mail , i have almost everything inside it , notes , appointments and a lot of documents as attachments . since the last updates of iphone all these features have been improved and now it is very easy to keep up to date my computer with the iphone as well as the file sharing work . i have to say that when i need to transfer me working documents i use the mail always by passing the itunes procedure . smile rossy Il giorno 13/gen/2011, alle ore 23.00, Sarah Alawami ha scritto: > No I'm using just th enotes app as far as I am aware. the notes app onthe iphone and the notes feature on mail. I don't see how this could be happening thouygh. confused. > On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:20 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> If you are using Wi-Fi, and a syncing service like Simple Note, this is certainly possible. >> >> Take care >> James >> On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:45, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Hello. I noticed yesterday my notes were being synced with my iphone over the air. I often wrote my notes on my computer so would they be transferred some how to my iphone with out my plugging it in? I don't have mobil me so I'm kind of stumped. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> S >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > *** Nel mondo molti uomini possono molto perch? hanno, perch? sanno, perch? decidono. Molti contano poco, ma credono e amano molto. Quando chi pu? si unir? a quelli che amano potremo sperare di cambiare il mondo. Noi non vogliamo rubare il potere a nessuno, il denaro a nessuno, gli imperi a nessuno, le vanit? a nessuno, ben sazi se anche un solo uomo per noi passer? dalla solitudine alla vita. Mondo X *** From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Jan 14 08:56:26 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:56:26 +0000 Subject: Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D241AC4-3DD9-4E2C-9CF0-9F11D5A91180@blueyonder.co.uk> Gordon, That is awful fella. Hope he is going to be ok, you guys really are going through a bad time at the moment. Chris On 13 Jan 2011, at 23:30, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Dennis > > Sorry for not getting back to you. My father has just been diagnosed with prostate cancer, for the second god-damned time! I will get back to you asap. > > Gordon > > On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:13, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> Hello all >> (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). >> I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? >> Any help welcomed please. >> Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Fri Jan 14 10:43:12 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:43:12 +0000 Subject: Getting all checkboxes to read in an app on the IMac In-Reply-To: <4D241AC4-3DD9-4E2C-9CF0-9F11D5A91180@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <4D241AC4-3DD9-4E2C-9CF0-9F11D5A91180@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Gordon. that is awful news. I wish the best for your father and I hope that if possible, then can eliminate the cancer. I really feeel for you guys at this horrible time. I know several people who have died of cancer and it is not nice at all. In my opinion, cancer is one of the worst diseases you can have. My thoughts will be with you all. Warmest regards. Lewis. On 14 Jan 2011, at 08:56, Chris Moore wrote: > Gordon, > > That is awful fella. > > Hope he is going to be ok, you guys really are going through a bad time at the moment. > > Chris > On 13 Jan 2011, at 23:30, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hello Dennis >> >> Sorry for not getting back to you. My father has just been diagnosed with prostate cancer, for the second god-damned time! I will get back to you asap. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:13, Dennis Freedman wrote: >> >>> Hello all >>> (Gordon this is not a plea for you to contact me re my previous message about DJ, honest. I am sure that if I can solve this particular problem I can work on this myself until you have time to train me one-to-one). >>> I notice in DJ (but also in other apps) that some checkboxes labels are not being spoken, but if I hang fire, I get 'you are on a checkbox', etc, and 'the help tag for this checkbox is'. How can I get these checkboxes to be read out automatically, as happens with (I assume) properly labelled checckboxes? I have my Verbosity settings set to high, but there must be something I'm missing here? Or do I have to manually label each of the checkboxes once I know what they are? >>> Any help welcomed please. >>> Still in love with my IMac and IPhone. :) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 11:05:20 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:05:20 +0000 Subject: Response From Apple Message-ID: Hello everybody here's what we got back from our contact at Apple regarding the website issue on http://me.com: Hi Gordon: Thank you for notifying me. You did the right thing to go to Accessibility at apple.com first but I'll let them know they're slipping. Hopefully something might get done. Lynne From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 11:07:46 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:07:46 +0100 Subject: Response From Apple In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Lynne, Let's hope. I'm still assuming we might only see these new changes when they change MobileMe, which I hear might be happening. At least, the changes would definitely be perfect given the new data center. I guess we'll see. :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 11:15:53 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:15:53 +0000 Subject: burning a disk from a playlist In-Reply-To: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> References: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Marcy On 14 Jan 2011, at 00:20, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > ? I've created a playlist in iTunes, and the tracks are in the specific order I need them to be. However, when I burn the disk, the tracks burn alphabetically. > We are having the same issue and it has us puzzled. We're wondering whether the track tagging is now used by iTunes when burning disks. That's all we can think of because as you rightly say it is a very odd issue. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 11:22:29 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:22:29 +0000 Subject: Backup solutions help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2BB0DF49-27A5-469B-9A69-4B70F6C0512A@mac-access.net> hello Simon On 14 Jan 2011, at 06:31, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > ? I've been using Superduper to creatte bootable copies of my drive and Superduper works very well with voiceover. A clear guide comes with it as well under the help menu. > We encourage people to register this programme. It's completely accessible, as you say, and extremely functional. We had a quick look at CCC but it didn't seem like it's as friendly a utility. Lynne From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Fri Jan 14 12:03:33 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:03:33 +0000 Subject: burning a disk from a playlist In-Reply-To: References: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi there! I've just done a disc from a playlist and it came out in the order I selected! Has there been a Itunes update recently! Its funny but I cannot find out which Itunes I've got from within Itunes itself! I know it is a 10. something but cannot find out! But anyway mine still burns the tracks in order! Colin! I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 14 Jan 2011, at 11:15, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Marcy > > On 14 Jan 2011, at 00:20, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > >> ? I've created a playlist in iTunes, and the tracks are in the specific order I need them to be. However, when I burn the disk, the tracks burn alphabetically. >> > We are having the same issue and it has us puzzled. We're wondering whether the track tagging is now used by iTunes when burning disks. That's all we can think of because as you rightly say it is a very odd issue. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 12:10:24 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:10:24 +0100 Subject: burning a disk from a playlist In-Reply-To: References: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, Another way you can do this is by going to System Profiler from either the "About This Mac" menu item from the Apple menu, then hit the "More Info" button, or simply go to Applications/Utilities and select System Profiler. You can also get to that folder by pressing Command-Shift-U from the Finder. When you are here, hit VoiceOver-COmmand-T to go to the "Contents" table if you are not already focussed on it. Go down to "Software" then when you land on "Applications" in the expanded Software section, VO-COmmand-T again to get to the "Item List" table. Then, you can hit IT for iTunes, interact with the table and VO-right to see the version number. This is a workaround until they finally make the "About iTunes" from within iTunes accessible. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From moriond at mac.com Fri Jan 14 12:19:19 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:19:19 -1000 Subject: burning a disk from a playlist In-Reply-To: References: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> Message-ID: <379C9F69-79BA-4DE5-8503-2FA667893DEA@mac.com> Hi Marcy and Lynne, Try selecting the playlist in the sources table, then use the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and select the option "Copy to Play Order" before burning to disc. This should match the order of tracks in the playlist to the order in which they currently appear in the songs table for your playlist. By default, the order in which tracks appear in a playlist should be the order in which these items are added. If you reorder the playlist, for example, by sorting the column for track name, artist, album, or any other attribute that you choose to have displayed for the playlist, such as date "Last Played" (by bringing up View Options with Command-J and checking boxes for other columns you want displayed), you can ensure that the playlist burned to disc reflects the new (current) ordering by applying the "Copy to Play Order" context menu option as described above. If you want to go back to the order in which the tracks were assembled, sort (VO-Shift-Backslash) on the first column. Remember that each sort action applied again on the same column will reverse the sort order (between ascending and descending). I know that Lynne has asked about ordering tracks burned from albums purchased from the iTunes Store. In the case where you create playlists of purchased tracks, the track order probably reflects the way that the playlist was assembled. For example, if you found and selected the tracks by typing into the search text field (that you can reach directly with Command-Option-F), then it's likely they will be alphabetically ordered. My best guess in those cases would be to try sorting on the Album column if the track order in the songs table does not show up correctly. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 14, 2011, at 01:15, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Marcy > > On 14 Jan 2011, at 00:20, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > >> ? I've created a playlist in iTunes, and the tracks are in the specific order I need them to be. However, when I burn the disk, the tracks burn alphabetically. >> > We are having the same issue and it has us puzzled. We're wondering whether the track tagging is now used by iTunes when burning disks. That's all we can think of because as you rightly say it is a very odd issue. > > Lynne > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Fri Jan 14 12:51:39 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:51:39 +0000 Subject: burning a disk from a playlist In-Reply-To: References: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> Message-ID: <894DFBEF-0009-408D-9864-2D081DB30898@gmail.com> Thanks Nik! I now know my Itunes is 10.1.1 Is yours later version than this! I've also tried to see Esters suggestion and I have no option to select playlist order! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 14 Jan 2011, at 12:10, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello, > > Another way you can do this is by going to System Profiler from either the "About This Mac" menu item from the Apple menu, then hit the "More Info" button, or simply go to Applications/Utilities and select System Profiler. You can also get to that folder by pressing Command-Shift-U from the Finder. > > When you are here, hit VoiceOver-COmmand-T to go to the "Contents" table if you are not already focussed on it. Go down to "Software" then when you land on "Applications" in the expanded Software section, VO-COmmand-T again to get to the "Item List" table. Then, you can hit IT for iTunes, interact with the table and VO-right to see the version number. > > This is a workaround until they finally make the "About iTunes" from within iTunes accessible. > > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 14:35:52 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:35:52 +0000 Subject: Possible Excel file data corruption when transferring from PC to Mac Message-ID: Hello everyone, I am working on a project at work at the moment, requiring that I spend a lot of time in Excel. When working on this outside of work, I am using Numbers here on the Mac. But twice now, I have found that information is missing from the file, which means that I must re-add it. Does anyone know why this is happening please? Thanks Take care James E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) Twitter: lnt2008 From khwicca at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 17:38:39 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:38:39 -0500 Subject: Seeing my Mac on the Network with My PC In-Reply-To: References: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <700EECD3-1956-40AC-8718-11471CBF094E@gmail.com> All of the PCs on the network can see the mac, but not the other way around. Can someone tell me how to get on the Mac from my PC? Thanks Kristeen On Jan 8, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Shelly > > Are you using VoiceOver? If so it's easy. > > Highlight the item you want to remove from the dock. > Press Control+Option+Shift+M to bring up the context menu > Cursor down probably just once until you hear "Options" > Press the right arrow key to open the list of options. > Arrow down until you hear "Remove From Dock" > Press Enter. > > I hope that helps, > > Lynne > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 01:41, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > >> Can someone please provide me with step by step instructions how to drag items off the doc? Thanks in advance. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lavendar at bell.net Fri Jan 14 18:10:02 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn and Nicky) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:10:02 -0500 Subject: Shameless plug and request for suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gordon, what does it do? Caitlyn, the shameless ap addict On 11/01/2011 3:50 PM, Gordon Keen wrote: > Hi > > My son, the developer, has a text to speech ap in the mac ap store called sayit - it's in entertainment - it costs a princely 59 pence. > > I have already told him he needs to add the ability to speed up the speech and he is working on that. > He also wants to extend the number of file formats the audio can be saved to. > He wants more ideas to improve this very basic ap to be of use to the visually impaired so if you could spare the coppers to have a look and feed back your suggestions to me I can guarantee he will take them on board or be cut out of my will. > > Regards > > G > > > From glorious Devon, England. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Fri Jan 14 19:28:51 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:28:51 +0000 Subject: Shameless plug and request for suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0C5EADE5-3295-4ADE-B835-1533E2790DA6@googlemail.com> It converts a text document in to synthetic speech and saves it as an .aif audio file which can be played back in itunes. If you attach said audio file as an attachment in an email it would be like a voice message. Regards G From glorious Devon, England. On 14 Jan 2011, at 18:10, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote: > Gordon, what does it do? > > Caitlyn, the shameless ap addict > > > On 11/01/2011 3:50 PM, Gordon Keen wrote: >> Hi >> >> My son, the developer, has a text to speech ap in the mac ap store called sayit - it's in entertainment - it costs a princely 59 pence. >> >> I have already told him he needs to add the ability to speed up the speech and he is working on that. >> He also wants to extend the number of file formats the audio can be saved to. >> He wants more ideas to improve this very basic ap to be of use to the visually impaired so if you could spare the coppers to have a look and feed back your suggestions to me I can guarantee he will take them on board or be cut out of my will. >> >> Regards >> >> G >> >> > From glorious Devon, England. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 19:42:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:42:12 +0000 Subject: burning a disk from a playlist In-Reply-To: <379C9F69-79BA-4DE5-8503-2FA667893DEA@mac.com> References: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> <379C9F69-79BA-4DE5-8503-2FA667893DEA@mac.com> Message-ID: Hello Esther; good to see you back on list. On 14 Jan 2011, at 12:19, Esther wrote: > ? Try selecting the playlist in the sources table, then use the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and select the option "Copy to Play Order" before burning to disc. This should match the order of tracks in the playlist to the order in which they currently appear in the songs table for your playlist. By default, the order in which tracks appear in a playlist should be the order in which these items are added. If you reorder the playlist, for example, by sorting the column for track name, artist, album, or any other attribute that you choose to have displayed for the playlist, such as date "Last Played" (by bringing up View Options with Command-J and checking boxes for other columns you want displayed), you can ensure that the playlist burned to disc reflects the new (current) ordering by applying the "Copy to Play Order" context menu option as described above. If you want to go back to the order in which the tracks were assembled, sort (VO-Shift-Backslash) on the first column. Remember that each sort action applied again on the same column will reverse the sort order (between ascending and descending). > I thought that was what I had done; perhaps not though. So I will try it again. > ? I know that Lynne has asked about ordering tracks burned from albums purchased from the iTunes Store. In the case where you create playlists of purchased tracks, the track order probably reflects the way that the playlist was assembled. For example, if you found and selected the tracks by typing into the search text field (that you can reach directly with Command-Option-F), then it's likely they will be alphabetically ordered. My best guess in those cases would be to try sorting on the Album column if the track order in the songs table does not show up correctly. > When we do this, we always create a playlist of the tracks, and manually assemble the playlist by adding the tracks, one by one, to the list. Perhaps there is a quicker, better and more efficient way. I hope and assume so. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 19:48:16 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:48:16 +0000 Subject: burning a disk from a playlist In-Reply-To: <894DFBEF-0009-408D-9864-2D081DB30898@gmail.com> References: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> <894DFBEF-0009-408D-9864-2D081DB30898@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3424C640-8309-4CF2-B332-17A0BDDD4C04@mac-access.net> Hello Colin On 14 Jan 2011, at 12:51, Colin M wrote: > ? I've also tried to see Esters suggestion and I have no option to select playlist order! If you select a playlist and then use CTRL+Option+Shift+M to bring up the contextual menu, cursor down and you'll see the burn playlist to disk option. Below that, Colin, there is a "Copy To Play Order" option. I think that is what Esther means. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 19:53:02 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:53:02 +0000 Subject: Seeing my Mac on the Network with My PC In-Reply-To: <700EECD3-1956-40AC-8718-11471CBF094E@gmail.com> References: <9A6CF709-D2B3-4ABC-8DF8-4967B6ADD263@sbcglobal.net> <700EECD3-1956-40AC-8718-11471CBF094E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Kristeen On 14 Jan 2011, at 17:38, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > ? All of the PCs on the network can see the mac, but not the other way around. Can someone tell me how to get on the Mac from my PC? > This is often a difficult problem to resolve. But try doing this: In Windows, open the Run dialogue and type something like: \\mymac where "mymac" = your Mac's network sharing name. Assuming, of course, that you have turned on sharing in system preferences of OSX. If you haven't that's why it won't work. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 19:57:29 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:57:29 +0000 Subject: Shameless plug and request for suggestions In-Reply-To: <0C5EADE5-3295-4ADE-B835-1533E2790DA6@googlemail.com> References: <0C5EADE5-3295-4ADE-B835-1533E2790DA6@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <9ED3F4D5-DD4E-4EFE-9AB3-A3E9668E46E4@mac-access.net> Hello Gordon On 14 Jan 2011, at 19:28, Gordon Keen wrote: > ? It converts a text document in to synthetic speech and saves it as an .aif audio file which can be played back in itunes. > Actually, I don't know whether your son is aware of it or not. But there is already an application which does this. VideoVoice, from Assistiveware does an excellent job but for the option to save in different formats. Of course, ViseoVoice isn't free but it's a very good application. Anne might be able to tell you more on this subject as I know she works with it quite a lot. > ? If you attach said audio file as an attachment in an email it would be like a voice message. Now that is a nice little touch. Lynne From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Fri Jan 14 20:14:30 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:14:30 +0000 Subject: Locking Screen Orientation on the iPhone, and iPod Touch. Message-ID: Hello Everyone. I have a question. I wish to lock my Screen Orientation on my iPod Touch, but can't find it anywhere. I tried to find it in the status bar thing as it said in Mike Arrigo's podcast but it wasn't there. I can't find it in any of the settings either. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best regards. Lewis. From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 20:19:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:19:32 +0000 Subject: Locking Screen Orientation on the iPhone, and iPod Touch. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77F850DA-F22E-4532-96C2-156D6D189C90@mac-access.net> Hello Lewis On 14 Jan 2011, at 20:14, Lewis Crack wrote: > I wish to lock my Screen Orientation on my iPod Touch, but can't find it anywhere. I tried to find it in the status bar thing as it said in Mike Arrigo's podcast but it wasn't there. I can't find it in any of the settings either. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. You cannot lock orientation on the Touch I am afraid. Lynne From helianthe at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 20:20:48 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:20:48 +0100 Subject: Locking Screen Orientation on the iPhone, and iPod Touch. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Lewis, Well, just go to the app switcher by pressing the home button twice. Then go to the next page by flicking 3 fingers on the screen from the left to the right and you'll find the orientation lock button on the bottom left of the screen. Hope this helps, Lyn & Twinny On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hello Everyone. > > I have a question. > I wish to lock my Screen Orientation on my iPod Touch, but can't find it anywhere. I tried to find it in the status bar thing as it said in Mike Arrigo's podcast but it wasn't there. I can't find it in any of the settings either. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Best regards. > Lewis. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Fri Jan 14 20:30:01 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:30:01 +0000 Subject: Locking Screen Orientation on the iPhone, and iPod Touch. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <267FE098-10C9-4B70-9B1F-C64E7E3C0D04@googlemail.com> HI Lyn. thanks for the info! Will do that! Lewis. On 14 Jan 2011, at 20:20, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > Hey Lewis, > > Well, just go to the app switcher by pressing the home button twice. Then go to the next page by flicking 3 fingers on the screen from the left to the right and you'll find the orientation lock button on the bottom left of the screen. > > Hope this helps, > > Lyn & Twinny > > On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> Hello Everyone. >> >> I have a question. >> I wish to lock my Screen Orientation on my iPod Touch, but can't find it anywhere. I tried to find it in the status bar thing as it said in Mike Arrigo's podcast but it wasn't there. I can't find it in any of the settings either. >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> Best regards. >> Lewis. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Fri Jan 14 20:35:07 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:35:07 +0000 Subject: Locking Screen Orientation on the iPhone, and iPod Touch. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E3C0FC3-D368-44D7-96A4-8A3D606E1FBF@googlemail.com> HI Lyn! Yay! It worked! It seems like you can lock Orientation on the Touch after all! You need iOS4 to do it though. We learn something new every day! Best regards. Lewis. On 14 Jan 2011, at 20:20, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > Hey Lewis, > > Well, just go to the app switcher by pressing the home button twice. Then go to the next page by flicking 3 fingers on the screen from the left to the right and you'll find the orientation lock button on the bottom left of the screen. > > Hope this helps, > > Lyn & Twinny > > On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> Hello Everyone. >> >> I have a question. >> I wish to lock my Screen Orientation on my iPod Touch, but can't find it anywhere. I tried to find it in the status bar thing as it said in Mike Arrigo's podcast but it wasn't there. I can't find it in any of the settings either. >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> Best regards. >> Lewis. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 20:40:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:40:50 -0800 Subject: burning a disk from a playlist In-Reply-To: <379C9F69-79BA-4DE5-8503-2FA667893DEA@mac.com> References: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> <379C9F69-79BA-4DE5-8503-2FA667893DEA@mac.com> Message-ID: <79521139-DA44-49A2-808F-D4FCD4B072D6@gmail.com> I don't remember seeing the option when I did a context menu on it? I'll have to play wiht it the next time i need a cd. On Jan 14, 2011, at 4:19 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Marcy and Lynne, > > Try selecting the playlist in the sources table, then use the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and select the option "Copy to Play Order" before burning to disc. This should match the order of tracks in the playlist to the order in which they currently appear in the songs table for your playlist. By default, the order in which tracks appear in a playlist should be the order in which these items are added. If you reorder the playlist, for example, by sorting the column for track name, artist, album, or any other attribute that you choose to have displayed for the playlist, such as date "Last Played" (by bringing up View Options with Command-J and checking boxes for other columns you want displayed), you can ensure that the playlist burned to disc reflects the new (current) ordering by applying the "Copy to Play Order" context menu option as described above. If you want to go back to the order in which the tracks were assembled, sort (VO-Shift-Backslash) on the first column. Remember that each sort action applied again on the same column will reverse the sort order (between ascending and descending). > > I know that Lynne has asked about ordering tracks burned from albums purchased from the iTunes Store. In the case where you create playlists of purchased tracks, the track order probably reflects the way that the playlist was assembled. For example, if you found and selected the tracks by typing into the search text field (that you can reach directly with Command-Option-F), then it's likely they will be alphabetically ordered. My best guess in those cases would be to try sorting on the Album column if the track order in the songs table does not show up correctly. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jan 14, 2011, at 01:15, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Marcy >> >> On 14 Jan 2011, at 00:20, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >> >>> ? I've created a playlist in iTunes, and the tracks are in the specific order I need them to be. However, when I burn the disk, the tracks burn alphabetically. >>> >> We are having the same issue and it has us puzzled. We're wondering whether the track tagging is now used by iTunes when burning disks. That's all we can think of because as you rightly say it is a very odd issue. >> >> Lynne >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lavendar at bell.net Fri Jan 14 21:11:41 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn and Nicky) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:11:41 -0500 Subject: Shameless plug and request for suggestions In-Reply-To: <9ED3F4D5-DD4E-4EFE-9AB3-A3E9668E46E4@mac-access.net> References: <0C5EADE5-3295-4ADE-B835-1533E2790DA6@googlemail.com> <9ED3F4D5-DD4E-4EFE-9AB3-A3E9668E46E4@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I just had a look for this ap and couldn't find it, so it must not be available in my ap store. Caitlyn On 14/01/2011 2:57 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Gordon > > On 14 Jan 2011, at 19:28, Gordon Keen wrote: > >> ? It converts a text document in to synthetic speech and saves it as an .aif audio file which can be played back in itunes. >> > Actually, I don't know whether your son is aware of it or not. But there is already an application which does this. VideoVoice, from Assistiveware does an excellent job but for the option to save in different formats. > > Of course, ViseoVoice isn't free but it's a very good application. Anne might be able to tell you more on this subject as I know she works with it quite a lot. > >> ? If you attach said audio file as an attachment in an email it would be like a voice message. > Now that is a nice little touch. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > From moriond at mac.com Fri Jan 14 21:23:08 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:23:08 -1000 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3CC440F8-0BD8-49A5-ADC3-9ED7F0C731BB@mac.com> Hi Nic and Lynne, I don't know how to cancel a trial MobileMe subscription, since I haven't set one of those up and don't know what the screen format is like. However, I can tell you how you can set your subscription not to renew. You'll need to enable Mouse Keys to move your cursor. The issue is that there is a checkbox for determining whether your MobileMe subscription automatically renews or doesn't, but VoiceOver doesn't announce it and you can't navigate to it directly. Back when this service was dot Mac -- a long time ago -- the checkbox was announced. What's weird is that I can do this from my iPad, because if I simply double tap where the "Renew" entry is announced, If I have moved my finger to this entry (not simply flicked to it), my finger automatically also hits the checkbox. (I have to do this from Atomic Browser, because Apple for some reason doesn't let you enter the full MobileMe screens from Safari.) If you navigate to your account options screen after logging into: http://www.me.com/account you'll hear VoiceOver read off "Account", "Renew", and "Price" on one line, and then "MobileMe Subscription" and "$99.00 / year" (or the equivalent in your currency) on the following line. The checkbox to select the option to renew is below the "Renew" entry, and you can determine how many pixels to move down if you check the y position on the screen of "Price" entry (with VO+F5+F5), and of the "$99.00 / year" entry. I've done this by setting the "Speak size and position" pop up button to "Pixels" under the "Announcements" tab of "Verbosity" in VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8), and then using VO+F5+F5 to read off these entries. The difference in y coordinates between entries on the two lines is the number of pixels you need to move down from "Renew", and the value I've determined probably will work for you (i.e., you probably don't need to set your pop up button to read in pixels and read off the pixel values of these elements yourself with VO+F5+F5). You need to start with your VoiceOver cursor at the "Renew" position, turn on Mouse Keys, then move down 24 pixels from your starting position by pressing the "k" key on your laptop keyboard 24 times. Then do a hardware click at that position, which means clicking with your trackpad or pressing the "5" key If you're doing this on a full-size keyboard with numeric keypad, you just tap the "2" key the same number of times to use Mouse Keys to move your cursor. Usually the way that I enable Mouse Keys is by going to the System Preferences > Universal Access and then pressing (VO+Space) the tab for "Mouse & Trackpad" instead of "Seeing". There's a checkbox that will allow you to turn Mouse Keys on and off by pressing the Option key 5 times quickly in succession, which is the easy way to do this. I set this up before I start. So here's what I do on a MacBook: 1. I log into the MobileMe account page by: 1a. In Safari I press Command+L to go to the address bar 1b. I type or paste in the address below and press return: http://www.me.com/account 1c. In the first text box I type in my MobileMe login, then tab and type in my password, and press return 1d. When I'm logged in I will be on my account summary page, and VoiceOver will read down the options for "Personal Info", "Account Options", "Billing Info", etc. followed by the information on the Summary page. The summary will give your name and MobileMe account name, followed by a line like "Your account will renew on January 31, 2011". To change this, you can continue to navigate down the page, and press (VO+Space) "Options" under "Account Details". This is the same as doing a VO+Space on "Account Options" in the list of options that VoiceOver reads at the start of this page. 2. On the "Account Options" page, navigate (with item chooser menu or with VO+Right arrow) to "Renew" 3. Move your Mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor with VO-Command-F5 4. Turn on Mouse Keys (by pressing the Option key 5 times quickly in succession) 5. Move your mouse cursor down from the present location on "Renew" by pressing the "k" key 24 times. If you're working on a desktop keyboard with numeric keypad, press the "2" key instead of the "k" key. 6. Click your trackpad. This must be a physical click with a mouse or trackpad. 7. Turn Mouse Keys off again (by pressing the Option key 5 times quickly in succession) 8. Now when you VO-Right arrow you should read an announcement that your subscription expires in xx days, and that in order to keep using MobileMe without interruption you should select the renew checkbox above. 9, Continue to navigate (e.g., VO-Right arrow) to the "Save" at the end of the page, and press (VO-Space) to commit the changes. 10. You'll be taken back to the account summary page. Now when you read the line past your MobileMe account name, you'll get the date that your subscription ends. I just checked this. Try this, and see whether it works for you. Remember to turn Mouse Keys off again when you're done. If it is still on, the keys that you type won't work, except for the ones around the position where the embedded numeric keypad used to be located: "7 8 9", "u i o", "j k l". The control, option, and command keys will work, so I have the box for "Show Universal Access status in Menu Bar" checked under my System Preferences for Universal Access. This lets me check whether I have features like Mouse Keys or Zoom options turned on or off, by checking the Universal Access menu on the status bar (Control-F8, Right Arrow to "Universal Access" and arrow down into the menu). It also gives me a way to open the Universal Access preferences from the status bar menu to turn features off, even if Mouse Keys, etc. is on -- since my arrow keys and the Control, Option, and Command keys will still work. For background information, Mouse Keys is a way that you can move your mouse cursor to locations that VoiceOver does not see, and is typically used by (sighted) Mac users who have difficulty moving their mouse to precise locations (due to movement disabilities, such as a tremor in their hands). The center of the numeric keypad (the "5") is used as the current position of the mouse. Each press of a key above ("8"), below ("2"), to the left ("4"), or right ("6") of this central key moves the mouse cursor 1 screen pixel in that direction (up, down, left, or right). You can also move the mouse cursor diagonally (up and left with "7", up and right with "9", down and left with "1", and down and right with "3"). On laptop keyboards the "7 8 9" keys map to the "7 8 9" keys of the numeric keypad, the three keys below that: "u i o" map to "4 5 6", and the three keys below that: "j k l" map to "1 2 3". I first learned about the Mouse Keys feature, like so many things (smile), in a post that Anne made. I used to have to use a similar method to play sound samples on the U.S. Audible site (e.g., moving the mouse cursor to the right of "Sample" and pressing the trackpad to press the Flash player control). Now, thankfully, I don't have to do that anymore on the U.S. Audible pages with the Safari click to flash extension enabled, so VoiceOver sees an "audio element controller" that I can interact with to play the sample. But this technique still works. Incidentally, I've also reported this problem to both the MobileMe support people and to Apple Accessibility in the past. HTH. Cheers, Esther > Hi Nic > > On 13 Jan 2011, at 15:54, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> ? Thanks for that. I never even thought to use that option. I'd prefer to kill off the account immediately, but the grace period is alright as well. If you wouldn't mind having a look at the site, though, I'd be grateful. > > I need to be a little bit careful; I don't want to cancel our account accidentally. This is just a thought Nic, and of course you can rely on my total discretion if you take this option. | Some on this list know me personally and they will vouch for my honesty I'm sure. > > If you'd like me to cancel the account for you, please feel free to contact me privately and we'll go from there. I totally understand though if you're not comfortable with that. Regardless though, I will have a look at the site now. Just remind me of the URL again would you to get to the accounts section? > > Lynne > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 21:23:33 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:23:33 +0000 Subject: Locking Screen Orientation on the iPhone, and iPod Touch. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5270B34E-23F8-4311-974A-529E8889D326@mac-access.net> Hello Lyn On 14 Jan 2011, at 20:20, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > > ? Well, just go to the app switcher by pressing the home button twice. Then go to the next page by flicking 3 fingers on the screen from the left to the right and you'll find the orientation lock button on the bottom left of the screen. Does this work on the Touch? I don't remember seeing it actually; but I could be wrong. It's been a while since we even used our iPod Touch; the iPad has taken over. Lynne From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Fri Jan 14 21:25:45 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:25:45 +0000 Subject: burning a disk from a playlist In-Reply-To: <3424C640-8309-4CF2-B332-17A0BDDD4C04@mac-access.net> References: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> <894DFBEF-0009-408D-9864-2D081DB30898@gmail.com> <3424C640-8309-4CF2-B332-17A0BDDD4C04@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne! I was looking in the wrong place! I selected the playlist then went to the track list and selected all, then did the menu! hahahahaha I get it now do the menu while still on the playlist name! Thanks to you and of course Esther! :] Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 14 Jan 2011, at 19:48, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Colin > > On 14 Jan 2011, at 12:51, Colin M wrote: > >> ? I've also tried to see Esters suggestion and I have no option to select playlist order! > > If you select a playlist and then use CTRL+Option+Shift+M to bring up the contextual menu, cursor down and you'll see the burn playlist to disk option. Below that, Colin, there is a "Copy To Play Order" option. I think that is what Esther means. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From helianthe at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 21:29:23 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:29:23 +0100 Subject: Locking Screen Orientation on the iPhone, and iPod Touch. In-Reply-To: <5270B34E-23F8-4311-974A-529E8889D326@mac-access.net> References: <5270B34E-23F8-4311-974A-529E8889D326@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5823DCEE-39F8-4EA2-991E-5F1BAC1C30AA@mac-access.net> Lynne, Yep, it works on the Ipod touch as well. Take care, Lyn & Twinny On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Lyn > > > On 14 Jan 2011, at 20:20, Lyn & Twinny wrote: >> >> ? Well, just go to the app switcher by pressing the home button twice. Then go to the next page by flicking 3 fingers on the screen from the left to the right and you'll find the orientation lock button on the bottom left of the screen. > > Does this work on the Touch? I don't remember seeing it actually; but I could be wrong. It's been a while since we even used our iPod Touch; the iPad has taken over. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 21:33:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:33:47 -0800 Subject: burning a disk from a playlist In-Reply-To: References: <098AB991-4FA0-4ECF-977A-DC734AFAC939@gmail.com> <894DFBEF-0009-408D-9864-2D081DB30898@gmail.com> <3424C640-8309-4CF2-B332-17A0BDDD4C04@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <17311685-2230-49AE-BBB3-CC3C552666DD@gmail.com> Oh! Thanks. no wonder I didn't see that option! Oops? Take care all. S On Jan 14, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Lynne! > I was looking in the wrong place! > I selected the playlist then went to the track list and selected all, then did the menu! hahahahaha > I get it now do the menu while still on the playlist name! > Thanks to you and of course Esther! :] > Colin > I'm far too bad for Heaven! > The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! > > On 14 Jan 2011, at 19:48, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Colin >> >> On 14 Jan 2011, at 12:51, Colin M wrote: >> >>> ? I've also tried to see Esters suggestion and I have no option to select playlist order! >> >> If you select a playlist and then use CTRL+Option+Shift+M to bring up the contextual menu, cursor down and you'll see the burn playlist to disk option. Below that, Colin, there is a "Copy To Play Order" option. I think that is what Esther means. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Jan 14 21:45:48 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:45:48 -1000 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <75001551-D016-47B1-B82D-1130AF411574@mac-access.net> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> <2FF818CC-3F71-4F62-8145-236B23083BC9@gmail.com> <75001551-D016-47B1-B82D-1130AF411574@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <21EA8911-86C9-4D12-A954-6F62748E213C@mac.com> Hi Gordon, On Jan 13, 2011, at 13:27, Gordon Smith wrote: > I have just written to somebody at Apple who I know, he's above the general accessibility team. > > Gordon I hope you also pointed out the accessibility problems with the "Billing Info" page. I was just checking this out, and it seems as though Nic could also press (VO-Space) on the "Remove Credit Card" on this page as a way of terminating his subscription, but I notice that now there's no information about which credit card is selected. I think that earlier you at least heard VoiceOver tell you whether the first, second, etc. radio button was selected even when it was only identified with a graphic. There's also a "Cancel" entry on that page that might work. (I don't want to cancel my membership, so I didn't try it). Last of all, there's a CAPTCHA on the billing info page, with a message "Enter the characters you see in the image to the left."! Cheers, Esther From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Fri Jan 14 21:53:37 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:53:37 +0000 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <21EA8911-86C9-4D12-A954-6F62748E213C@mac.com> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> <2FF818CC-3F71-4F62-8145-236B23083BC9@gmail.com> <75001551-D016-47B1-B82D-1130AF411574@mac-access.net> <21EA8911-86C9-4D12-A954-6F62748E213C@mac.com> Message-ID: <840B882E-0FEE-4C2B-99A7-BE2C185B8249@gmail.com> Hi there! Sorry about chiming in here! Going by what has been talked about its a shame that a Apple product is so bad! Especially seeing its meant to be so useful! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 14 Jan 2011, at 21:45, Esther wrote: > Hi Gordon, > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 13:27, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> I have just written to somebody at Apple who I know, he's above the general accessibility team. >> >> Gordon > I hope you also pointed out the accessibility problems with the "Billing Info" page. I was just checking this out, and it seems as though Nic could also press (VO-Space) on the "Remove Credit Card" on this page as a way of terminating his subscription, but I notice that now there's no information about which credit card is selected. I think that earlier you at least heard VoiceOver tell you whether the first, second, etc. radio button was selected even when it was only identified with a graphic. There's also a "Cancel" entry on that page that might work. (I don't want to cancel my membership, so I didn't try it). Last of all, there's a CAPTCHA on the billing info page, with a message "Enter the characters you see in the image to the left."! > > Cheers, > > Esther > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 21:59:01 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:59:01 -0800 Subject: HiJacking the iPhone's Headset Port: Message-ID: <3D91D3DA-CF0C-4B83-B38A-683BDFF75642@gmail.com> there was not much inteh article but it looks interesting. read more: http://tinyurl.com/4kezlul From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 22:34:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:34:19 -0800 Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 Message-ID: <3DA54867-28CA-4FAA-B01A-CA58984E0E53@gmail.com> Are these reports really true? and what would happen if apple came out with an iphone 5 months after releasing the phone to VZ? read more: http://dlvr.it/DLZLY From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 22:37:03 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 23:37:03 +0100 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <3CC440F8-0BD8-49A5-ADC3-9ED7F0C731BB@mac.com> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> <3CC440F8-0BD8-49A5-ADC3-9ED7F0C731BB@mac.com> Message-ID: <9AEF57A8-265A-4CF2-8B89-B3B6EFF3BD36@gmail.com> Hello Esther, I'd try it, except I do not have an account that is due for renewal at the moment. I do appreciate all the background info, though, and always wanted to give mouse keys a spin. :) Normally, I always use the actual trackpad to navigate, but I can't see the checkbox. I'm guessing it is not announced on the "Cancel subscription" page, even though focussing on the text for the box used to be enough earlier on. For everyone's information, I ended up giving Lynne my credentials, seeing as even if she was going to hijack my information, it would be unusable as I switched card types just a few weeks ago and the previous one was deactivated. At least, I assume it has been by now, so it should not be charged at any rate. I still don't want to take the chance, however. I understand if Lynne is unable to cancel my account due to other matters, in which case I'll probably find another way somehow. I also found the fact that I was unable to access the regular site through Mobile Safari extremely disappointing. Apple is probably the first site that I have seen force you onto a mobile website without any real options, regardless of the URL. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 14 23:36:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:36:58 -0800 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! Message-ID: Ok I've tried everything under the sun. I cannot publish as it appears to do nothing. What am I doing wrong. Take care all and here's a step by step of what I did. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/audio_boo_failing.m4a Take care. Sarah Alawami MSN: marrie12 at gmail.com Website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com podcast mobile http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 23:53:23 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 23:53:23 +0000 Subject: Locking Screen Orientation on the iPhone, and iPod Touch. In-Reply-To: <5823DCEE-39F8-4EA2-991E-5F1BAC1C30AA@mac-access.net> References: <5270B34E-23F8-4311-974A-529E8889D326@mac-access.net> <5823DCEE-39F8-4EA2-991E-5F1BAC1C30AA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3E93B814-66B9-4ADC-9D55-A2137D3F4763@mac-access.net> Hello Lyn On 14 Jan 2011, at 21:29, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > > ? Yep, it works on the Ipod touch as well. > Well, there we are; you live and learn. :) Lynne Q From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 23:56:25 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 23:56:25 +0000 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <21EA8911-86C9-4D12-A954-6F62748E213C@mac.com> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> <958A8C5D-DD6F-4CCE-A37B-57F73D32A653@gmail.com> <2FF818CC-3F71-4F62-8145-236B23083BC9@gmail.com> <75001551-D016-47B1-B82D-1130AF411574@mac-access.net> <21EA8911-86C9-4D12-A954-6F62748E213C@mac.com> Message-ID: Hello Esther I will answer on behalf of Gordon. No, I'm afraid nobody told us about this. But there is an easy way around this one. Just set it up in iTunes, and since the two are integrated it should work. I know it isn't a proper fix, but it is a work-around. Lynne On 14 Jan 2011, at 21:45, Esther wrote: > I hope you also pointed out the accessibility problems with the "Billing Info" page. I was just checking this out, and it seems as though Nic could also press (VO-Space) on the "Remove Credit Card" on this page as a way of terminating his subscription, but I notice that now there's no information about which credit card is selected. I think that earlier you at least heard VoiceOver tell you whether the first, second, etc. radio button was selected even when it was only identified with a graphic. There's also a "Cancel" entry on that page that might work. (I don't want to cancel my membership, so I didn't try it). Last of all, there's a CAPTCHA on the billing info page, with a message "Enter the characters you see in the image to the left."! > > Cheers, > > Esther > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 14 23:59:36 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 23:59:36 +0000 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> Hello Sarah On 14 Jan 2011, at 23:36, Sarah Alawami wrote: > ? Ok I've tried everything under the sun. I cannot publish as it appears to do nothing. What am I doing wrong. Just out of interest although I probably can't answer your question. What is this relating too? Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 15 00:22:23 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:22:23 -0800 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! In-Reply-To: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> References: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: the audio boo app on the iphone. a lot of people publish audio boos from there iphones which then can be posted to twitter and more sights at once. it is like the twaudio service but it sounds a lot better. On Jan 14, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > On 14 Jan 2011, at 23:36, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> ? Ok I've tried everything under the sun. I cannot publish as it appears to do nothing. What am I doing wrong. > > Just out of interest although I probably can't answer your question. What is this relating too? > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Jan 15 01:39:45 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:39:45 -0600 Subject: Backup solutions help please In-Reply-To: <257E556E-9596-4C49-BB19-C82C47AD3882@gmail.com> References: <257E556E-9596-4C49-BB19-C82C47AD3882@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, I believe you can set a folder for each one, assuming you have the hard drive space. On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I have 3 macs, can I back up all of them on the same disc with Carbon Copy cloner, or is there a better program for this? > Courtney > On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:40 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Time machine is a good way to back up everything, but it won't create an external volume that you can boot from. For that, check out carbon copy cloner or super duper. >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: >> >>> I note there is a new Take Control book out on backing up your data. Before purchasing this (I really DO need to back up my data), are any of the solutions that will be suggested in the book going to be accessible? Do I start with Time Machine, or jump into something else? >>> I know this has been discussed before, and also that people have very personal opinions of what software suits them or even works with VO, but I would welcome advice - or am I opening a can or worms here? :) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jan 15 02:26:59 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 02:26:59 +0000 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! In-Reply-To: References: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9817CCFD-FEC2-403B-A21C-3EA36A6B8902@mac-access.net> Hello Sarah On 15 Jan 2011, at 00:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: > ? the audio boo app on the iphone. a lot of people publish audio boos from there iphones which then can be posted to twitter and more sights at once. it is like the twaudio service but it sounds a lot better. OK, sorry about that. I was just puzzled. I don't use this app. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 15 04:30:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:30:56 -0800 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! In-Reply-To: <9817CCFD-FEC2-403B-A21C-3EA36A6B8902@mac-access.net> References: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> <9817CCFD-FEC2-403B-A21C-3EA36A6B8902@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <772DB0BB-3831-489D-A22B-495C2A24AC5B@gmail.com> Yeah lets hope someone can give me a hand. I've even asked on twitter and it's failed. lol! We'll see. S On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > On 15 Jan 2011, at 00:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> ? the audio boo app on the iphone. a lot of people publish audio boos from there iphones which then can be posted to twitter and more sights at once. it is like the twaudio service but it sounds a lot better. > > OK, sorry about that. I was just puzzled. I don't use this app. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Sat Jan 15 05:24:22 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 23:24:22 -0600 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! In-Reply-To: <772DB0BB-3831-489D-A22B-495C2A24AC5B@gmail.com> References: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> <9817CCFD-FEC2-403B-A21C-3EA36A6B8902@mac-access.net> <772DB0BB-3831-489D-A22B-495C2A24AC5B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <39A29F77-78F7-4D31-A91A-CCBF842687D6@tznet.com> Hi: I clicked on the DropBox link and nothing happened. Safari came up however when interacting on the HTML, it's empty. On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yeah lets hope someone can give me a hand. I've even asked on twitter and it's failed. lol! We'll see. > > S > On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Sarah >> >> On 15 Jan 2011, at 00:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> ? the audio boo app on the iphone. a lot of people publish audio boos from there iphones which then can be posted to twitter and more sights at once. it is like the twaudio service but it sounds a lot better. >> >> OK, sorry about that. I was just puzzled. I don't use this app. >> >> Lynne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 15 06:12:07 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:12:07 -0800 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! In-Reply-To: <39A29F77-78F7-4D31-A91A-CCBF842687D6@tznet.com> References: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> <9817CCFD-FEC2-403B-A21C-3EA36A6B8902@mac-access.net> <772DB0BB-3831-489D-A22B-495C2A24AC5B@gmail.com> <39A29F77-78F7-4D31-A91A-CCBF842687D6@tznet.com> Message-ID: <6C03B3DD-3D52-4FE3-B76B-12E4274D9DBC@gmail.com> Hmm it shouldn't be. Ok try this link instead. http://www.sendspace.com/file/gm4c5p On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:24 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Hi: > > I clicked on the DropBox link and nothing happened. Safari came up however when interacting on the HTML, it's empty. > > > On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Yeah lets hope someone can give me a hand. I've even asked on twitter and it's failed. lol! We'll see. >> >> S >> On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Sarah >>> >>> On 15 Jan 2011, at 00:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> ? the audio boo app on the iphone. a lot of people publish audio boos from there iphones which then can be posted to twitter and more sights at once. it is like the twaudio service but it sounds a lot better. >>> >>> OK, sorry about that. I was just puzzled. I don't use this app. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sat Jan 15 06:14:20 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 06:14:20 +0000 Subject: Locking Screen Orientation on the iPhone, and iPod Touch. In-Reply-To: <4E3C0FC3-D368-44D7-96A4-8A3D606E1FBF@googlemail.com> References: <4E3C0FC3-D368-44D7-96A4-8A3D606E1FBF@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <538AB0BC-A376-4179-904C-FD8DEF19AC95@googlemail.com> thanks for this info. it's very useful to know. Ian McNamara From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sat Jan 15 14:14:07 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 14:14:07 +0000 Subject: Amazon even less amazing - Kindle on IPhone Message-ID: Hello Listers Well, I was so excited to learn that Amazon have an app out for the IPhone and IPad o purchase and read their Kindle books. And it's free, so I tried it. And, yes, you've guessed it. You can select books, buy them from the store, but - erm - when you go to read a book it doesn't work with VoiceOver... Now, wouldn't you have thought after all the lobbying and previous fuss about accessibility? Anyone tried the Kindle app for the Mac, although I wouldn't fancy carrying my IMac around with me on the bus. :) From sballan at nexicom.net Sat Jan 15 14:43:10 2011 From: sballan at nexicom.net (Sharon Ballantyne) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:43:10 -0500 Subject: Amazon even less amazing - Kindle on IPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greetings all, I have been using the actual kindle latest version with relatively good success. My only negative with the actual kindle products are the occasional situation where a book does not have the text to speech enabled. I really like having access to the latest books, something we don't have here in Canada as we don't have access to services like bookshare in the USA. Sorry I have not tried the kindle aps for the Mac. If anyone discovers work-arounds for making the aps accessible, please do let us know. Sharon On 2011-01-15, at 9:14 AM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello Listers > Well, I was so excited to learn that Amazon have an app out for the IPhone and IPad o purchase and read their Kindle books. And it's free, so I tried it. And, yes, you've guessed it. You can select books, buy them from the store, but - erm - when you go to read a book it doesn't work with VoiceOver... > Now, wouldn't you have thought after all the lobbying and previous fuss about accessibility? > Anyone tried the Kindle app for the Mac, although I wouldn't fancy carrying my IMac around with me on the bus. :) > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Jan 15 15:41:54 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:41:54 -0600 Subject: Amazon even less amazing - Kindle on IPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5C2BFE5B-C678-4E56-8E0E-8C2511186C88@charter.net> Unfortunately, the kindle app on any platform cannot be used to read books, about the only option at this point is to use one of the new kindles that has limited accessibility, or, use the web interface once it becomes available for reading entire books instead of just samples. On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello Listers > Well, I was so excited to learn that Amazon have an app out for the IPhone and IPad o purchase and read their Kindle books. And it's free, so I tried it. And, yes, you've guessed it. You can select books, buy them from the store, but - erm - when you go to read a book it doesn't work with VoiceOver... > Now, wouldn't you have thought after all the lobbying and previous fuss about accessibility? > Anyone tried the Kindle app for the Mac, although I wouldn't fancy carrying my IMac around with me on the bus. :) > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jan 15 16:08:06 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:08:06 -0400 Subject: QuickKeys Manual. Message-ID: <489C1C6C-41CE-4964-AE77-76B6543462B4@compuconference.com> Hi Folks: Where does one find the QuickKeys user manual? Thanks all over the place gang. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jan 15 16:40:53 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:40:53 +0100 Subject: Unsubscribing from MobileMe In-Reply-To: <9AEF57A8-265A-4CF2-8B89-B3B6EFF3BD36@gmail.com> References: <89373ECF-3622-4B39-BBB0-7D2E9A2A0CEA@gmail.com> <2BE6CF65-B61F-47C1-B102-C9A5B6256A8E@mac-access.net> <42B41756-3DFE-4F59-8BD6-6B4F02804BA5@gmail.com> <24685264-4023-4920-B69D-4F0D3D0B3EEA@mac-access.net> <3023B25D-4722-4CB4-9E26-64780E01A819@gmail.com> <3CC440F8-0BD8-49A5-ADC3-9ED7F0C731BB@mac.com> <9AEF57A8-265A-4CF2-8B89-B3B6EFF3BD36@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi! I'd also like to add one thing I just noticed. I decided to try it with Atomic Web Browser anyway, but no go. if I accidentally hit the top of the website, either VOiceOver crashes or the entire iPhone does. That makes it difficult for me, at least, to get a proper sense of the layout of the website. I even tried spoofing it to see if that made a difference, but either the setting didn't work, or MobileMe is too damn good. I even tried restarting the phone and the browser after the setting had been applied, but I ended up having to click continue. Given my iPhone is extremely hot after this experience, I've decided to just leave it at least on the iPhone. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jan 15 17:50:17 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:50:17 +0000 Subject: Is Braille input possible on the Focus 40 Blue on Mac OS X Snow Leopard please? Message-ID: <6D956B25-150B-4CB5-882F-CF7A60E8A4C6@mac-access.net> Hello everyone, I am sending this on behalf of Will Lomas, as he is having a few problems sending messages to the list at the moment. He would like to know if it is possible to use the Focus 40 Braille Display for Braille input on Mac OS X Snow Leopard please? Please message him off-list at: lomaswilliam at gmail.com Thank you Take care James From bryansmart at bryansmart.com Sat Jan 15 17:59:59 2011 From: bryansmart at bryansmart.com (Bryan Smart) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:59:59 -0500 Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 In-Reply-To: <3DA54867-28CA-4FAA-B01A-CA58984E0E53@gmail.com> References: <3DA54867-28CA-4FAA-B01A-CA58984E0E53@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm preparing to be amused when the several million people that will supposedly be leaving AT&T for Verizon's great network all sign two year contracts with Verizon, only to discover that several million other people had that same idea, and Verizon is now overloaded with unlimited data hogs. Verizon will say that "they didn't anticipate the extremely high demand for the iPhone," and will ask customers to please bare with them while they work to resolve the network difficulties. At the same time, the drop in iPhone users on AT&T will mean less network conjestion, or so I'd expect. In the south-east US, at least, AT&T works great. I don't have any reason to complain about dropped calls, the 3G coverage is great, and I always have good data rates, even when in the country. There's always greener grass, I guess. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:34 PM To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 Are these reports really true? and what would happen if apple came out with an iphone 5 months after releasing the phone to VZ? read more: http://dlvr.it/DLZLY _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bryansmart at bryansmart.com Sat Jan 15 18:01:45 2011 From: bryansmart at bryansmart.com (Bryan Smart) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:01:45 -0500 Subject: QuickKeys Manual. In-Reply-To: <489C1C6C-41CE-4964-AE77-76B6543462B4@compuconference.com> References: <489C1C6C-41CE-4964-AE77-76B6543462B4@compuconference.com> Message-ID: In the Help menu of QuicKeys. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Jim Noseworthy Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:08 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: QuickKeys Manual. Hi Folks: Where does one find the QuickKeys user manual? Thanks all over the place gang. _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jan 15 18:31:47 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 14:31:47 -0400 Subject: reading PDF in Preview question. Message-ID: HI Gang: Is it possible to read a PDF document line by line with the cursor keys? If so, how so? Thanks all over the place gang. From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Jan 15 18:55:05 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:55:05 +0000 Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 In-Reply-To: References: <3DA54867-28CA-4FAA-B01A-CA58984E0E53@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1A4337CD-E443-4692-BFE1-D08F503D653E@blueyonder.co.uk> Do you think you guys might get iPhone on Sprint and T-Mobile this year? That sure would even out the load. On another note, does not look like Windows 7 is selling very well. On 15 Jan 2011, at 17:59, Bryan Smart wrote: > I'm preparing to be amused when the several million people that will supposedly be leaving AT&T for Verizon's great network all sign two year contracts with Verizon, only to discover that several million other people had that same idea, and Verizon is now overloaded with unlimited data hogs. Verizon will say that "they didn't anticipate the extremely high demand for the iPhone," and will ask customers to please bare with them while they work to resolve the network difficulties. At the same time, the drop in iPhone users on AT&T will mean less network conjestion, or so I'd expect. In the south-east US, at least, AT&T works great. I don't have any reason to complain about dropped calls, the 3G coverage is great, and I always have good data rates, even when in the country. There's always greener grass, I guess. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:34 PM > To: mac access list iOS Accessibility > Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 > > Are these reports really true? and what would happen if apple came out with an iphone 5 months after releasing the phone to VZ? read more: > > http://dlvr.it/DLZLY > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Sat Jan 15 19:10:07 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:10:07 -0600 Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 In-Reply-To: <1A4337CD-E443-4692-BFE1-D08F503D653E@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <3DA54867-28CA-4FAA-B01A-CA58984E0E53@gmail.com> <1A4337CD-E443-4692-BFE1-D08F503D653E@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: hey guys, this isn't to do with varizon getting the iphone, but this is my experiance in canada with it. i am though a company called telus mobile, and they have alot of people using the data plans, for iphone and blackberry... we have the equivalent to maybe a little better server then varizon does and we are the furthest from the data level for the servers. on the other hand, the government cariier sasktel is now equipped with 3g plus, and says they are the fastest server in north america for 3g. well can somebody tell me how? when at&t is the most widley known for the speed?.. in canada the iphone has hit fast, and we have set on, but not limited to, dealers: telus, rogers, bell. these are the 3 who have the contract, were the rest has to go and have the person buy the phone from apple first... guess whos makin the money!..:P i beleive that if the data usage on varizon is to keep where its not slow, they should upgrade their systems, not sure if they hve, but this will assure that they will be up to par for the influx of iphone usage. but to even it out, they should go and have support for all services and servers for the iphone in the u.s. doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:55 PM Subject: Re: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 > Do you think you guys might get iPhone on Sprint and T-Mobile this year? > That sure would even out the load. On another note, does not look like > Windows 7 is selling very well. > On 15 Jan 2011, at 17:59, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> I'm preparing to be amused when the several million people that will >> supposedly be leaving AT&T for Verizon's great network all sign two year >> contracts with Verizon, only to discover that several million other >> people had that same idea, and Verizon is now overloaded with unlimited >> data hogs. Verizon will say that "they didn't anticipate the extremely >> high demand for the iPhone," and will ask customers to please bare with >> them while they work to resolve the network difficulties. At the same >> time, the drop in iPhone users on AT&T will mean less network conjestion, >> or so I'd expect. In the south-east US, at least, AT&T works great. I >> don't have any reason to complain about dropped calls, the 3G coverage is >> great, and I always have good data rates, even when in the country. >> There's always greener grass, I guess. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:34 PM >> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 >> >> Are these reports really true? and what would happen if apple came out >> with an iphone 5 months after releasing the phone to VZ? read more: >> >> http://dlvr.it/DLZLY >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sat Jan 15 20:25:25 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:25:25 +0000 Subject: Is Braille input possible on the Focus 40 Blue on Mac OS X Snow Leopard please? In-Reply-To: <6D956B25-150B-4CB5-882F-CF7A60E8A4C6@mac-access.net> References: <6D956B25-150B-4CB5-882F-CF7A60E8A4C6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi there I have never found this possible, I presume because FS never issued a keyboard driver. I do hope someone does come up with a solution as otherwise the keyboard capabilities are just wasted. On 15 Jan 2011, at 17:50, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am sending this on behalf of Will Lomas, as he is having a few problems sending messages to the list at the moment. > > He would like to know if it is possible to use the Focus 40 Braille Display for Braille input on Mac OS X Snow Leopard please? > > Please message him off-list at: lomaswilliam at gmail.com > > Thank you > > Take care > James > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 15 20:28:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:28:53 -0800 Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 In-Reply-To: References: <3DA54867-28CA-4FAA-B01A-CA58984E0E53@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah tht'as true. and I'm sure your production will be correct thus forcing VZ to go limited data plans and hopefully causing at&t to go unlimited. s On Jan 15, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > I'm preparing to be amused when the several million people that will supposedly be leaving AT&T for Verizon's great network all sign two year contracts with Verizon, only to discover that several million other people had that same idea, and Verizon is now overloaded with unlimited data hogs. Verizon will say that "they didn't anticipate the extremely high demand for the iPhone," and will ask customers to please bare with them while they work to resolve the network difficulties. At the same time, the drop in iPhone users on AT&T will mean less network conjestion, or so I'd expect. In the south-east US, at least, AT&T works great. I don't have any reason to complain about dropped calls, the 3G coverage is great, and I always have good data rates, even when in the country. There's always greener grass, I guess. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:34 PM > To: mac access list iOS Accessibility > Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 > > Are these reports really true? and what would happen if apple came out with an iphone 5 months after releasing the phone to VZ? read more: > > http://dlvr.it/DLZLY > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 15 20:29:31 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:29:31 -0800 Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 In-Reply-To: <1A4337CD-E443-4692-BFE1-D08F503D653E@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <3DA54867-28CA-4FAA-B01A-CA58984E0E53@gmail.com> <1A4337CD-E443-4692-BFE1-D08F503D653E@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <3734FB13-71E5-4D9F-ACD1-D74EB416A164@gmail.com> Well since it looks like apple's exclusivity deal is over yeah maybe late this year or next year. S On Jan 15, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Do you think you guys might get iPhone on Sprint and T-Mobile this year? That sure would even out the load. On another note, does not look like Windows 7 is selling very well. > On 15 Jan 2011, at 17:59, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> I'm preparing to be amused when the several million people that will supposedly be leaving AT&T for Verizon's great network all sign two year contracts with Verizon, only to discover that several million other people had that same idea, and Verizon is now overloaded with unlimited data hogs. Verizon will say that "they didn't anticipate the extremely high demand for the iPhone," and will ask customers to please bare with them while they work to resolve the network difficulties. At the same time, the drop in iPhone users on AT&T will mean less network conjestion, or so I'd expect. In the south-east US, at least, AT&T works great. I don't have any reason to complain about dropped calls, the 3G coverage is great, and I always have good data rates, even when in the country. There's always greener grass, I guess. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:34 PM >> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 >> >> Are these reports really true? and what would happen if apple came out with an iphone 5 months after releasing the phone to VZ? read more: >> >> http://dlvr.it/DLZLY >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Jan 15 20:34:10 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 14:34:10 -0600 Subject: reading PDF in Preview question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E3800C7-1610-450A-A64C-E011D9E250F5@charter.net> Sure, interact with the text, you can use the voiceover commands for moving up and down, the regular arrow keys don't work, but the voiceover keys do the same thing. On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > HI Gang: > > Is it possible to read a PDF document line by line with the cursor keys? If so, how so? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Jan 15 20:40:05 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 14:40:05 -0600 Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 In-Reply-To: <1A4337CD-E443-4692-BFE1-D08F503D653E@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <3DA54867-28CA-4FAA-B01A-CA58984E0E53@gmail.com> <1A4337CD-E443-4692-BFE1-D08F503D653E@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Not surprising that windows phone 7 is not selling well. Compared to other smart phone operating systems, it's very lacking in features. The verizon iphone deal was not exclusive, Apple would have been very unwise to do another exclusive deal. In theory, the verizon iphone could work on Sprint's network. T-mobile is a bit more interesting. I use an unlocked iphone with t-mobile, it works fine, but only with 2 g data speeds. T-mobile uses a nonstandard frequency for their 3 g network, Apple would either need to make a separate model for t-mobile, or modify the next generation model to include the 1700 MHZ band, many phones now are including frequencies for different regions, so this is something they could do. The iphone can actually be purchased unlocked in other countries, and I hope that this also becomes the case in the United States, currently we have to buy the unlocked version as an import. If I was in charge of sprint, I would definitely be starting to talk to Apple about getting the iphone. On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Do you think you guys might get iPhone on Sprint and T-Mobile this year? That sure would even out the load. On another note, does not look like Windows 7 is selling very well. > On 15 Jan 2011, at 17:59, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> I'm preparing to be amused when the several million people that will supposedly be leaving AT&T for Verizon's great network all sign two year contracts with Verizon, only to discover that several million other people had that same idea, and Verizon is now overloaded with unlimited data hogs. Verizon will say that "they didn't anticipate the extremely high demand for the iPhone," and will ask customers to please bare with them while they work to resolve the network difficulties. At the same time, the drop in iPhone users on AT&T will mean less network conjestion, or so I'd expect. In the south-east US, at least, AT&T works great. I don't have any reason to complain about dropped calls, the 3G coverage is great, and I always have good data rates, even when in the country. There's always greener grass, I guess. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:34 PM >> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Consumer Reports offers scathing critique on Verizon iPhone 4 >> >> Are these reports really true? and what would happen if apple came out with an iphone 5 months after releasing the phone to VZ? read more: >> >> http://dlvr.it/DLZLY >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From wa9dro at gmail.com Sat Jan 15 20:56:27 2011 From: wa9dro at gmail.com (Keith Reedy) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:56:27 -0500 Subject: Updated GarageBand 6 guide, revision 2 References: <55A76EEF-F3EF-4BE6-AEE3-0E66089FB95F@fastmail.net> Message-ID: > > I have the updated GarageBand guide ready for prime time, revision 2 where I will talk about single track echo and reverb and the many presets which will work for most people and I will touch on effect presets as well. Get it here, http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/GarageBand_6_with_Voiceover_editing_using_loops_and_more.shtml Keith Reedy From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jan 15 21:28:39 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:28:39 +0000 Subject: Kindle Isn't Apple In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2667C5C1-C71E-402E-9825-A66230159C69@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Could we please make sure this thread stays on topic. The Kindle isn't an Apple product and, as such, isn't up for discussion. I know that the two areas sometimes cross paths, especially when comparing accessibility and so on. But let's keep this Apple If you want to discuss the Kindle, please by all means feel free to do so on our sister-group, Techno-Chat. Nobody has done anything mortally dangerous that I know of yet, this is just a gentle and friendly reminder. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jan 15 21:33:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:33:12 +0000 Subject: Is Braille input possible on the Focus 40 Blue on Mac OS X Snow Leopard please? In-Reply-To: <6D956B25-150B-4CB5-882F-CF7A60E8A4C6@mac-access.net> References: <6D956B25-150B-4CB5-882F-CF7A60E8A4C6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: On 15 Jan 2011, at 17:50, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello everyone, > Hello James > I am sending this on behalf of Will Lomas, as he is having a few problems sending messages to the list at the moment. > Please ask him to get back to us, we'll try to help him. > He would like to know if it is possible to use the Focus 40 Braille Display for Braille input on Mac OS X Snow Leopard please? > Yes. > Please message him off-list at: lomaswilliam at gmail.com That makes his membership somewhat pointless, don't you think? We'd be more than willing to work with him to resolve the problem, but we can't if we are not made aware of it. :) Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jan 15 21:35:36 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:35:36 +0000 Subject: Is Braille input possible on the Focus 40 Blue on Mac OS X Snow Leopard please? In-Reply-To: References: <6D956B25-150B-4CB5-882F-CF7A60E8A4C6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Dennis On 15 Jan 2011, at 20:25, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hi there > I have never found this possible, I presume because FS never issued a keyboard driver. > I do hope someone does come up with a solution as otherwise the keyboard capabilities are just wasted. > If you check the list of supported Braille displays, you will find the Focus 40/80 listed there. Lynne From lynne at tft-bbs.co.uk Sat Jan 15 21:47:43 2011 From: lynne at tft-bbs.co.uk (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:47:43 +0000 Subject: Introducing Phone Amego Message-ID: Hello everybody I thought some might find this useful, especially those using iPhone. Lynne http://www.sustworks.com/pa_guide/index.html From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jan 15 22:18:18 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:18:18 -0400 Subject: file finding problem. Message-ID: <71CAD42B-C3B5-49DE-B7F2-E9F3D9554863@compuconference.com> Hi Folks: I saved a file called test.pdf. I am not able to find the file using Spotlight. I also can't find where the QuicKeys 4 user manual is. I tried to find the file using SpotLight as well. I know I can open the file in the QuicKey's help menu but I would like to know where the file is and how to find it. Thanks all over the place gang. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jan 15 22:28:15 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:28:15 +0100 Subject: file finding problem. In-Reply-To: <71CAD42B-C3B5-49DE-B7F2-E9F3D9554863@compuconference.com> References: <71CAD42B-C3B5-49DE-B7F2-E9F3D9554863@compuconference.com> Message-ID: Hello Jim, You will never find the users guide via Spotlight. This is because it hidden within the QuicKeys.app file. The fastest method to finding the file is simply to hit VO-Shift-M on the QuicKeys.app item within Applications, select "Show Package Contents" then hit Option-Command-F for search and type "guide". When it begins to search, make sure to select the "QuicKeys.app" radio button, otherwise it will search your Mac if you have not changed the default settings. Then, move to the table and you should have it. :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jan 15 22:54:20 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:54:20 -0400 Subject: file finding problem. In-Reply-To: References: <71CAD42B-C3B5-49DE-B7F2-E9F3D9554863@compuconference.com> Message-ID: Nic: Thanks all over the place. On 2011-01-15, at 6:28 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Jim, > > You will never find the users guide via Spotlight. This is because it hidden within the QuicKeys.app file. The fastest method to finding the file is simply to hit VO-Shift-M on the QuicKeys.app item within Applications, select "Show Package Contents" then hit Option-Command-F for search and type "guide". When it begins to search, make sure to select the "QuicKeys.app" radio button, otherwise it will search your Mac if you have not changed the default settings. Then, move to the table and you should have it. :) > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sat Jan 15 22:58:44 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:58:44 +0000 Subject: Kindle Isn't Apple In-Reply-To: <2667C5C1-C71E-402E-9825-A66230159C69@mac-access.net> References: <2667C5C1-C71E-402E-9825-A66230159C69@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Lynne Yes, sorry, more akin to the TechnoChat list, sorry. I could get this back on topic by saying to close that I was so overwhelmed to think that Amazon or the app's developers could actually produce an app for the IPhone that totally disregarded Apple's in-built screen reder. I think that was really the point I was trying to make - it just seems sheer amazing to me that given the accessibility problems they'd had on their Kindle that they could be so short-sighted or stupid to make the same mistake again on a platform that has all the accessibility features they need built into the OS. Continue on the TechnOChat list by all means, again with my apologies. On 15 Jan 2011, at 21:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Could we please make sure this thread stays on topic. The Kindle isn't an Apple product and, as such, isn't up for discussion. I know that the two areas sometimes cross paths, especially when comparing accessibility and so on. But let's keep this Apple > > If you want to discuss the Kindle, please by all means feel free to do so on our sister-group, Techno-Chat. > > Nobody has done anything mortally dangerous that I know of yet, this is just a gentle and friendly reminder. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sat Jan 15 23:05:55 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:05:55 +0000 Subject: Is Braille input possible on the Focus 40 Blue on Mac OS X Snow Leopard please? In-Reply-To: References: <6D956B25-150B-4CB5-882F-CF7A60E8A4C6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Lynne, I think you've misunderstood the original question. I use a Focus and the Braille support is really good. That's Braille output. What the original message referred to is the fact that the Focus has a little Braille keyboard built-in (hiding under a pull-off cover) that allows navigation around the screen. It also allows text entry with Jaws but not with VoiceOver. So, as I said, the keyboard is just not useable which is a shame. If anyone knows of anyone who has somehow managed to produce a driver to do this I, for one, would be very pleasd. The keyboard is slow, clunky, and not meant for lengthy text entry, but it would be an alternative method, allowing for Grade 2 Braille entry, that would on occasions be useful. On 15 Jan 2011, at 21:35, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dennis > > On 15 Jan 2011, at 20:25, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> Hi there >> I have never found this possible, I presume because FS never issued a keyboard driver. >> I do hope someone does come up with a solution as otherwise the keyboard capabilities are just wasted. >> > If you check the list of supported Braille displays, you will find the Focus 40/80 listed there. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jan 15 23:07:58 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:07:58 +0000 Subject: file finding problem. In-Reply-To: <71CAD42B-C3B5-49DE-B7F2-E9F3D9554863@compuconference.com> References: <71CAD42B-C3B5-49DE-B7F2-E9F3D9554863@compuconference.com> Message-ID: <040CBE6A-4CAE-4B2A-8F45-4608353A2EFB@mac-access.net> Hello Jim On 15 Jan 2011, at 22:18, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > ? I saved a file called test.pdf. I am not able to find the file using Spotlight. I also can't find where the QuicKeys 4 user manual is. I tried to find the file using SpotLight as well. > > ? I know I can open the file in the QuicKey's help menu but I would like to know where the file is and how to find it. Are they not in your downloads folder? Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jan 15 23:21:53 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:21:53 +0000 Subject: Is Braille input possible on the Focus 40 Blue on Mac OS X Snow Leopard please? In-Reply-To: References: <6D956B25-150B-4CB5-882F-CF7A60E8A4C6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9BB67098-EFF4-44DA-B052-7B1E92B8D6E8@mac-access.net> Hello Dennis On 15 Jan 2011, at 23:05, Dennis Freedman wrote: > ? I think you've misunderstood the original question. I use a Focus and the Braille support is really good. That's Braille output. What the original message referred to is the fact that the Focus has a little Braille keyboard built-in (hiding under a pull-off cover) that allows navigation around the screen. It also allows text entry with Jaws but not with VoiceOver. So, as I said, the keyboard is just not useable which is a shame. > If anyone knows of anyone who has somehow managed to produce a driver to do this I, for one, would be very pleasd. The keyboard is slow, clunky, and not meant for lengthy text entry, but it would be an alternative method, allowing for Grade 2 Braille entry, that would on occasions be useful. > yes, I understand now; Gordon has explained it. And we actually saw one of these at an exhibition in Middlesbrough last year and Gordon tried it with the Mac. He was not, unfortunately, permitted to try the keyboard; so I never saw that aspect of it. But I know that other devices such as the Connect40 from Humanware do offer the keyboard functionality for OSX. I think the Braille-Sense or whatever it's called by GW Micro also works. Lynne From moriond at mac.com Sat Jan 15 23:45:50 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:45:50 -1000 Subject: Is Braille input possible on the Focus 40 Blue on Mac OS X Snow Leopard please? In-Reply-To: References: <6D956B25-150B-4CB5-882F-CF7A60E8A4C6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <48787EB9-1F18-4032-9D18-36893F7C52B3@mac.com> Hi Dennis, I don't know of many people (anyone?) who successfully uses the Focus 40 with the Mac, but quite a number of people are using the Focus 40 with the iPhone/iPod/iPad. In particular, Annie Skov Nielsen, who joined this list in November, uses the Focus 40 extensively with her iDevices, and specifically to control reading in apps like iBooks, Kobo books, and Stanza. Also, a number of people are using this for text entry/selection, etc. in apps on the iPhone. You can check the "Braille Commands for iPhone" guide on the applevis.com site, and I think there are more tips that may have cropped up for using this device on different lists. Cheers, Esther On Jan 15, 2011, at 13:05, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello Lynne, > I think you've misunderstood the original question. I use a Focus and the Braille support is really good. That's Braille output. What the original message referred to is the fact that the Focus has a little Braille keyboard built-in (hiding under a pull-off cover) that allows navigation around the screen. It also allows text entry with Jaws but not with VoiceOver. So, as I said, the keyboard is just not useable which is a shame. > If anyone knows of anyone who has somehow managed to produce a driver to do this I, for one, would be very pleasd. The keyboard is slow, clunky, and not meant for lengthy text entry, but it would be an alternative method, allowing for Grade 2 Braille entry, that would on occasions be useful. From w9fyi at me.com Sun Jan 16 11:20:26 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:20:26 -0700 Subject: Amazon even less amazing - Kindle on IPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64949445-450A-4639-B74C-5B4562BA8C16@me.com> Hi there, The Kindle ap doesn't work, but the Kobo ap does http://www.kobobooks.com THis will give you almost as god of a selection as Amazon does, and it is reasonably accessible. The only thing that you have to remember is to change the page turn opption from curl to scrolling, and voila. On Jan 15, 2011, at 7:14 AM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello Listers > Well, I was so excited to learn that Amazon have an app out for the IPhone and IPad o purchase and read their Kindle books. And it's free, so I tried it. And, yes, you've guessed it. You can select books, buy them from the store, but - erm - when you go to read a book it doesn't work with VoiceOver... > Now, wouldn't you have thought after all the lobbying and previous fuss about accessibility? > Anyone tried the Kindle app for the Mac, although I wouldn't fancy carrying my IMac around with me on the bus. :) > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From w9fyi at me.com Sun Jan 16 11:26:11 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:26:11 -0700 Subject: Amazon even less amazing - Kindle on IPhone In-Reply-To: <64949445-450A-4639-B74C-5B4562BA8C16@me.com> References: <64949445-450A-4639-B74C-5B4562BA8C16@me.com> Message-ID: <8AE9B2BD-BDAD-4F58-B9FD-D335F6463DD0@me.com> sorry about that let's try this again, http://www.kobobooks.com On Jan 16, 2011, at 4:20 AM, Justin Mann wrote: > Hi there, > The Kindle ap doesn't work, but the Kobo ap does > http://www.kobobooks.com > THis will give you almost as god of a selection as Amazon does, and it is reasonably accessible. The only thing that you have to remember is to change the page turn opption from curl to scrolling, and voila. > On Jan 15, 2011, at 7:14 AM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> Hello Listers >> Well, I was so excited to learn that Amazon have an app out for the IPhone and IPad o purchase and read their Kindle books. And it's free, so I tried it. And, yes, you've guessed it. You can select books, buy them from the store, but - erm - when you go to read a book it doesn't work with VoiceOver... >> Now, wouldn't you have thought after all the lobbying and previous fuss about accessibility? >> Anyone tried the Kindle app for the Mac, although I wouldn't fancy carrying my IMac around with me on the bus. :) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Sun Jan 16 13:02:39 2011 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:02:39 +0000 Subject: Cleaning apple wireless keyboard Message-ID: Hi to all, Can anyone suggest the safest way to clean the aluminium keyboard and magic mouse? manyy thnanks Ian From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 16 13:16:23 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:16:23 +0000 Subject: Cleaning apple wireless keyboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Ian On 16 Jan 2011, at 13:02, Ian Harrison wrote: > > ? Can anyone suggest the safest way to clean the aluminium keyboard and magic mouse? I turn they keyboard upside-down, and use a soft-brissled brush to clean between the keys. Then a soft cloth to remove any surface dust; preferably velvet or something similar. I find that way I get the best results and it removes all of the grime which sometimes builds up from your fingers. Lynne From billd at insightbb.com Sun Jan 16 16:47:28 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:47:28 -0500 Subject: unzipping files with a password Message-ID: Hello, i use Book Share and when you download a book it is in the form of a zip file. in order to unzip it you have to put in your Bookshare password. does anyone know of a program that can be used to unzip these files so they can be put on a SD card. Thank you in advance. Bill Deatherage From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 16 17:12:20 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:12:20 +0000 Subject: unzipping files with a password In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E3B6869-A001-43CC-B6A1-D1223A69853F@googlemail.com> HI Bill! The Unarchiver.app, is a wonderful app to unzip files. I have the app if you wish me to send it over Skype if that would be easier for you, or if you google The Unarchiver for Mac OSX, it will be the first link. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 16 Jan 2011, at 16:47, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > i use Book Share and when you download a book it is in the form of a zip file. in order to unzip it you have to put in your Bookshare password. does anyone know of a program that can be used to unzip these files so they can be put on a SD card. > Thank you in advance. > Bill Deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 16 17:24:03 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:24:03 +0000 Subject: unzipping files with a password In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Bill On 16 Jan 2011, at 16:47, William Deatherage wrote: > ? i use Book Share and when you download a book it is in the form of a zip file. in order to unzip it you have to put in your Bookshare password. does anyone know of a program that can be used to unzip these files so they can be put on a SD card. Archive Utility cannot handle passworded zip files. You'd need something else. We personally use Stuffit Deluxe but that's a paid-for programme and not everybody is happy to buy their software, it seems. :) I'm sure there are others which will do the job. But this is something we need to do very very frequently for work reasons and we use Stuffit to create as well as decompress the archives. I hope that helps. Lynne From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sun Jan 16 18:41:25 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:41:25 +0000 Subject: Amazon even less amazing - Kindle on IPhone In-Reply-To: <8AE9B2BD-BDAD-4F58-B9FD-D335F6463DD0@me.com> References: <64949445-450A-4639-B74C-5B4562BA8C16@me.com> <8AE9B2BD-BDAD-4F58-B9FD-D335F6463DD0@me.com> Message-ID: i Justin Thanks for the info on the Kobo app for the Ios platform. So yet another source of free and paid-for books. The app seems accessible, although a bit strange getting back to contents when reading a book etc. I really wonder who is going to win this war on which format will become the standard for e-reading. Everyone has been saying for years that conventional paper books will not be around much longer, but sighted people seem to find it generally less tiring on the eyes to read paper and ink for long periods, although this might be changing with IOS and other platforms building better font and light display control into their systems. Thanks again - I'm afraid I really am a reading junkie... On 16 Jan 2011, at 11:26, Justin Mann wrote: > sorry about that let's try this again, > http://www.kobobooks.com > On Jan 16, 2011, at 4:20 AM, Justin Mann wrote: > >> Hi there, >> The Kindle ap doesn't work, but the Kobo ap does >> http://www.kobobooks.com >> THis will give you almost as god of a selection as Amazon does, and it is reasonably accessible. The only thing that you have to remember is to change the page turn opption from curl to scrolling, and voila. >> On Jan 15, 2011, at 7:14 AM, Dennis Freedman wrote: >> >>> Hello Listers >>> Well, I was so excited to learn that Amazon have an app out for the IPhone and IPad o purchase and read their Kindle books. And it's free, so I tried it. And, yes, you've guessed it. You can select books, buy them from the store, but - erm - when you go to read a book it doesn't work with VoiceOver... >>> Now, wouldn't you have thought after all the lobbying and previous fuss about accessibility? >>> Anyone tried the Kindle app for the Mac, although I wouldn't fancy carrying my IMac around with me on the bus. :) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sun Jan 16 18:46:00 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:46:00 +0000 Subject: What have I done to VoiceOver navigation? Message-ID: <9AB2BA41-2281-460A-ACE7-D774D0F09BE3@thejazzden.org.uk> Hello I was happily reading my email, interacting with message tables and the message content, and suddenly I found that when I move vo down arrow I'm moving along the line character by character... I've tried retracing my interact steps, going from one window to another, coming out of email etc etc to no avail. What have I done, but more importantly how do I get back to where things should be? And no, i can't remember which settings I might have changed inadvertently. Help welcomed please. --- Everything is easy when you know how! From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sun Jan 16 18:51:03 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:51:03 +0000 Subject: Further to my last message re my navigation in mail problem Message-ID: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> Wherever I am, it feels as if I've sort of rotated the whole voiceover navigation round somehow. In menus, for instance, I get things spelled out when o-and-cursoring down. When reading back my text as I now type, left and right arrows (with vo or not) move by word, even though I have the rotor set to characters. I'm sure there's an explanation for this but it's a bit disconcerting... From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jan 16 18:59:20 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:59:20 +0000 Subject: Further to my last message re my navigation in mail problem In-Reply-To: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <5B5C4A94-17DC-424F-AC98-3C84360B6C5D@blueyonder.co.uk> Have you tried turning VO off and back on or doing a reboot? On 16 Jan 2011, at 18:51, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Wherever I am, it feels as if I've sort of rotated the whole voiceover navigation round somehow. In menus, for instance, I get things spelled out when o-and-cursoring down. When reading back my text as I now type, left and right arrows (with vo or not) move by word, even though I have the rotor set to characters. > I'm sure there's an explanation for this but it's a bit disconcerting... > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 16 19:09:09 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:09:09 +0000 Subject: Question re: Kobo App Message-ID: Hello folks, I have downloaded the Kobo app from the App store previously, but could never use it as it asked me to create an account. Wen I tried to do this on the Kobo site, there was a Capptcha. How have people gotten around this please? Thanks Take care :) James E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) Twitter: lnt2008 From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Sun Jan 16 19:11:17 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:11:17 +0000 Subject: Further to my last message re my navigation in mail problem In-Reply-To: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: hi I'm probe not right but have you put the quick nav keys on i remember having something similar I'm not to sure but you could give it a try cant remember how to do it i know its something to do with the right and left arrow keys only an idea jules On 16 Jan 2011, at 18:51, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Wherever I am, it feels as if I've sort of rotated the whole voiceover navigation round somehow. In menus, for instance, I get things spelled out when o-and-cursoring down. When reading back my text as I now type, left and right arrows (with vo or not) move by word, even though I have the rotor set to characters. > I'm sure there's an explanation for this but it's a bit disconcerting... > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sun Jan 16 19:14:06 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:14:06 +0000 Subject: Further to my last message re my navigation in mail problem In-Reply-To: <5B5C4A94-17DC-424F-AC98-3C84360B6C5D@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> <5B5C4A94-17DC-424F-AC98-3C84360B6C5D@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <027B75D9-2582-46BC-915F-0214D2347189@gmail.com> Hi there! I think you've selected something on quick nav! To change this press down the up and either the left or right arrows keys together so vo says navigation! That should fix it! Colin Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 16 Jan 2011, at 18:59, Chris Moore wrote: > Have you tried turning VO off and back on or doing a reboot? > On 16 Jan 2011, at 18:51, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> Wherever I am, it feels as if I've sort of rotated the whole voiceover navigation round somehow. In menus, for instance, I get things spelled out when o-and-cursoring down. When reading back my text as I now type, left and right arrows (with vo or not) move by word, even though I have the rotor set to characters. >> I'm sure there's an explanation for this but it's a bit disconcerting... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sun Jan 16 19:17:25 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:17:25 +0000 Subject: Question re: Kobo App In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Jim I just filled in my email and password from the Create Account' button in the app itself - no need to go to the website. They must have updated the app, I guess. HTH. On 16 Jan 2011, at 19:09, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello folks, > > I have downloaded the Kobo app from the App store previously, but could never use it as it asked me to create an account. Wen I tried to do this on the Kobo site, there was a Capptcha. How have people gotten around this please? > > Thanks > Take care :) > James > > > > > E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) > Twitter: lnt2008 > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jan 16 19:17:10 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:17:10 +0000 Subject: Further to my last message re my navigation in mail problem In-Reply-To: References: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: To switch quick nav on or off simply press the left and right arrow keys together. On 16 Jan 2011, at 19:11, Julie Vaughan wrote: > hi I'm probe not right but have you put the quick nav keys on i remember having something similar I'm not to sure but you could give it a try cant remember how to do it i know its something to do with the right and left arrow keys > > only an idea > > jules > On 16 Jan 2011, at 18:51, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> Wherever I am, it feels as if I've sort of rotated the whole voiceover navigation round somehow. In menus, for instance, I get things spelled out when o-and-cursoring down. When reading back my text as I now type, left and right arrows (with vo or not) move by word, even though I have the rotor set to characters. >> I'm sure there's an explanation for this but it's a bit disconcerting... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Jan 16 19:46:21 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:46:21 +0000 Subject: Further to my last message re my navigation in mail problem In-Reply-To: References: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <3CEC27CD-E7E7-4177-AB5E-FA3619F0C2B8@googlemail.com> Hello if jules is right and you have quick nav on just press the left and right arrow keys together untill it says quicknav off. this should solve your problem. Ian McNamara From helianthe at mac-access.net Sun Jan 16 20:14:36 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:14:36 +0100 Subject: unzipping files with a password In-Reply-To: <558A5404-A479-4201-B5E8-A5B12639AB52@mac-access.net> References: <558A5404-A479-4201-B5E8-A5B12639AB52@mac-access.net> Message-ID: well maybe those who don't want to buy their software simply cannot afford it. We must all remember that not everybody has the money to buy every single piece of software that is out there. I personally think there is no need for such comments, not everybody has money to burn and there is nothing wrong in wanting to use free software if this is possible of course. I am sorry but I ad to comment on the message as to me this is not fair to those who can't afford as much as others. Lyn & Twinny From simoncavendish at me.com Sun Jan 16 20:34:18 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:34:18 +0000 Subject: What have I done to VoiceOver navigation? In-Reply-To: <9AB2BA41-2281-460A-ACE7-D774D0F09BE3@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <9AB2BA41-2281-460A-ACE7-D774D0F09BE3@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: I think you may have "quick nav on" which you activate and deactivate by pressing right and left arrow together. So just press them together again and you should be okay. It has happened to me many a time. Hope this will help. Simon On 16 Jan 2011, at 18:46, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello > I was happily reading my email, interacting with message tables and the message content, and suddenly I found that when I move vo down arrow I'm moving along the line character by character... I've tried retracing my interact steps, going from one window to another, coming out of email etc etc to no avail. > What have I done, but more importantly how do I get back to where things should be? > And no, i can't remember which settings I might have changed inadvertently. > Help welcomed please. > --- Everything is easy when you know how! > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Jan 16 21:26:30 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:26:30 +0000 Subject: turning quick nav on and off. Message-ID: Hello all this is how to turn quicknav on and off just incase the arrow key problem dennis was refering to is because of having quick nav on. basicly to turn quick nav on or off press both the left and right arrow keys together and voice over will tell you it is on or off. press them again if you want to change the setting. Ian McNamara From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Sun Jan 16 22:15:32 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:15:32 +0100 Subject: Kobo and finding where you were the last time you read. Message-ID: <9C326D65-267E-471A-BA65-30CF05B7696F@gmail.com> Hi all. I do not hope some of you gets this message twice. I have found out to read and buy books on kobo, that is great, and you can buy many great titles. But one thing annoys me, how can you quickly go to the place you stopped reading the next time you open the kobo app on your IPhone. I am a braille user, if it makes any differences. the only way I know is to check which page I am reading before closing kobo by pressing space +dots 3 and 4 and remember the page number, and then press space + dots 1,4,5,6 until I reach the correct page. the next time I open the app. Best regards Annie. From simoncavendish at me.com Sun Jan 16 22:22:32 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:22:32 +0000 Subject: Unzipping password protected files Message-ID: <035EF4EB-C457-4666-9182-8DB47B3B9029@me.com> Hello, Somebody has recently asked about unzipping password protected files. I've found the following method using Terminal provided by a mac user on another list (Justin Harford). I've not tried it but it might help if you want to experiment. I quote below: "You also have the option of using the built in unzip program in the terminal. 1. Open terminal from the utilities folder 2. in the terminal window, type sudo unzip file path. ~/ is a short cut for the home directory, so if I had file.zip in my home folder I would type sudo unzip ~/file.zip This is what I use to unzip my bookshare files. " Best wishes Simon From gunn at tznet.com Sun Jan 16 22:27:42 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:27:42 -0600 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! In-Reply-To: <6C03B3DD-3D52-4FE3-B76B-12E4274D9DBC@gmail.com> References: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> <9817CCFD-FEC2-403B-A21C-3EA36A6B8902@mac-access.net> <772DB0BB-3831-489D-A22B-495C2A24AC5B@gmail.com> <39A29F77-78F7-4D31-A91A-CCBF842687D6@tznet.com> <6C03B3DD-3D52-4FE3-B76B-12E4274D9DBC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <074C1758-B551-494C-8486-BE65334133DC@tznet.com> I heard the file a couple of times but since I don't use the app not sure what's going on but have some suggestions. I noticed after you did the test recording it seemed to take a few seconds before you could play it. Even when you played it, 00 seconds was displayed for the time length. When you published from what I can tell you did it correctly. I would try a couple of things, turn off VO completely before you publish the file of course you need to turn it back on again before you publish. One more suggestion, do a warm reset by holding down the home and sleep buttons for 30-40 seconds and try the app again. So not to clutter the list if you like write me off list at gunn at tznet.com. Good luck, John Sarah: On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hmm it shouldn't be. > Ok try this link instead. > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/gm4c5p > On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:24 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Hi: >> >> I clicked on the DropBox link and nothing happened. Safari came up however when interacting on the HTML, it's empty. >> >> >> On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Yeah lets hope someone can give me a hand. I've even asked on twitter and it's failed. lol! We'll see. >>> >>> S >>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Sarah >>>> >>>> On 15 Jan 2011, at 00:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> ? the audio boo app on the iphone. a lot of people publish audio boos from there iphones which then can be posted to twitter and more sights at once. it is like the twaudio service but it sounds a lot better. >>>> >>>> OK, sorry about that. I was just puzzled. I don't use this app. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 16 22:29:40 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:29:40 +0000 Subject: Further to my last message re my navigation in mail problem In-Reply-To: References: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: Hey Jules. You press the left and right arrow keys simultaneously (together) to enable and disable quick nav. Regards, Lew. On 16 Jan 2011, at 19:11, Julie Vaughan wrote: > hi I'm probe not right but have you put the quick nav keys on i remember having something similar I'm not to sure but you could give it a try cant remember how to do it i know its something to do with the right and left arrow keys > > only an idea > > jules > On 16 Jan 2011, at 18:51, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> Wherever I am, it feels as if I've sort of rotated the whole voiceover navigation round somehow. In menus, for instance, I get things spelled out when o-and-cursoring down. When reading back my text as I now type, left and right arrows (with vo or not) move by word, even though I have the rotor set to characters. >> I'm sure there's an explanation for this but it's a bit disconcerting... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 16 22:36:55 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:36:55 +0000 Subject: unzipping files with a password In-Reply-To: References: <558A5404-A479-4201-B5E8-A5B12639AB52@mac-access.net> Message-ID: HI Lyn. I completely agree with your comments and I also try to use free software wherever possible. I personally don't pay for stuff until I have found out a bit more information about it. That's just my opinion. Best regards. Lewis. On 16 Jan 2011, at 20:14, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > well maybe those who don't want to buy their software simply cannot afford it. We must all remember that not everybody has the money to buy every single piece of software that is out there. I personally think there is no need for such comments, not everybody has money to burn and there is nothing wrong in wanting to use free software if this is possible of course. > > I am sorry but I ad to comment on the message as to me this is not fair to those who can't afford as much as others. > > Lyn & Twinny > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 16 22:37:13 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:37:13 +0000 Subject: unzipping files with a password In-Reply-To: References: <558A5404-A479-4201-B5E8-A5B12639AB52@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7C7EFD47-D2E7-449F-8C58-8C764046B945@mac-access.net> Hello Lyn Since I think this is relevant to a comment I made, I decided to address it in public rather than privately. I am sorry that you took my comment that way. It was not meant as a criticism in any way of anybody. You're quite correct that nobody has the money to buy all they would like, and I think it's only fair to say we too use the odd bit of free software. All the same, my comment wasn't meant in the context which you appear to have taken it in. Be that as it may I will be more careful in future. Lynne From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Sun Jan 16 22:39:54 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:39:54 +0000 Subject: Further to my last message re my navigation in mail problem In-Reply-To: References: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <4383CBAC-FB08-42DF-9943-38D942F61409@virginmedia.com> yes i thought so but wasn't sure smiley On 16 Jan 2011, at 22:29, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hey Jules. > > You press the left and right arrow keys simultaneously (together) to enable and disable quick nav. > Regards, Lew. > On 16 Jan 2011, at 19:11, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> hi I'm probe not right but have you put the quick nav keys on i remember having something similar I'm not to sure but you could give it a try cant remember how to do it i know its something to do with the right and left arrow keys >> >> only an idea >> >> jules >> On 16 Jan 2011, at 18:51, Dennis Freedman wrote: >> >>> Wherever I am, it feels as if I've sort of rotated the whole voiceover navigation round somehow. In menus, for instance, I get things spelled out when o-and-cursoring down. When reading back my text as I now type, left and right arrows (with vo or not) move by word, even though I have the rotor set to characters. >>> I'm sure there's an explanation for this but it's a bit disconcerting... >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 16 22:41:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:41:08 -0800 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! In-Reply-To: <074C1758-B551-494C-8486-BE65334133DC@tznet.com> References: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> <9817CCFD-FEC2-403B-A21C-3EA36A6B8902@mac-access.net> <772DB0BB-3831-489D-A22B-495C2A24AC5B@gmail.com> <39A29F77-78F7-4D31-A91A-CCBF842687D6@tznet.com> <6C03B3DD-3D52-4FE3-B76B-12E4274D9DBC@gmail.com> <074C1758-B551-494C-8486-BE65334133DC@tznet.com> Message-ID: <6CD1AEB3-EA68-4599-B17A-B879585C6AB8@gmail.com> I tried both and no joy. I wonder what's going on. I had to do a worm reset as the gv app was freezing vo. lol! On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:27 PM, John Gunn wrote: > > > I heard the file a couple of times but since I don't use the app not sure what's going on but have some suggestions. > > I noticed after you did the test recording it seemed to take a few seconds before you could play it. Even when you played it, 00 seconds was displayed for the time length. > > When you published from what I can tell you did it correctly. I would try a couple of things, turn off VO completely before you publish the file of course you need to turn it back on again before you publish. > > One more suggestion, do a warm reset by holding down the home and sleep buttons for 30-40 seconds and try the app again. > > So not to clutter the list if you like write me off list at gunn at tznet.com. > > Good luck, > > John > > Sarah: > On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hmm it shouldn't be. >> Ok try this link instead. >> >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/gm4c5p >> On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:24 PM, John Gunn wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> >>> I clicked on the DropBox link and nothing happened. Safari came up however when interacting on the HTML, it's empty. >>> >>> >>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah lets hope someone can give me a hand. I've even asked on twitter and it's failed. lol! We'll see. >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Sarah >>>>> >>>>> On 15 Jan 2011, at 00:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ? the audio boo app on the iphone. a lot of people publish audio boos from there iphones which then can be posted to twitter and more sights at once. it is like the twaudio service but it sounds a lot better. >>>>> >>>>> OK, sorry about that. I was just puzzled. I don't use this app. >>>>> >>>>> Lynne >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Sun Jan 16 22:44:35 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:44:35 -0600 Subject: unzipping files with a password In-Reply-To: References: <558A5404-A479-4201-B5E8-A5B12639AB52@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <025FFF45-D221-4904-BF4C-22F3C0D5061D@tznet.com> Hello: If you go to the Mac-App store, look for Stuffit Expander under utilities. Great little app and it's free. Not sure if the above was suggested before if so, sorry about that. John On Jan 16, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Lewis Crack wrote: > HI Lyn. > > I completely agree with your comments and I also try to use free software wherever possible. > I personally don't pay for stuff until I have found out a bit more information about it. > That's just my opinion. > Best regards. > Lewis. > On 16 Jan 2011, at 20:14, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > >> well maybe those who don't want to buy their software simply cannot afford it. We must all remember that not everybody has the money to buy every single piece of software that is out there. I personally think there is no need for such comments, not everybody has money to burn and there is nothing wrong in wanting to use free software if this is possible of course. >> >> I am sorry but I ad to comment on the message as to me this is not fair to those who can't afford as much as others. >> >> Lyn & Twinny >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From gunn at tznet.com Sun Jan 16 22:50:04 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:50:04 -0600 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! In-Reply-To: <6CD1AEB3-EA68-4599-B17A-B879585C6AB8@gmail.com> References: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> <9817CCFD-FEC2-403B-A21C-3EA36A6B8902@mac-access.net> <772DB0BB-3831-489D-A22B-495C2A24AC5B@gmail.com> <39A29F77-78F7-4D31-A91A-CCBF842687D6@tznet.com> <6C03B3DD-3D52-4FE3-B76B-12E4274D9DBC@gmail.com> <074C1758-B551-494C-8486-BE65334133DC@tznet.com> <6CD1AEB3-EA68-4599-B17A-B879585C6AB8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C6C9C62-988F-43D0-816D-395CFFBB9206@tznet.com> I presume this never worked before? Other than the below, not sure what to suggest next. Take care, John On Jan 16, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I tried both and no joy. I wonder what's going on. I had to do a worm reset as the gv app was freezing vo. lol! > On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:27 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> >> >> I heard the file a couple of times but since I don't use the app not sure what's going on but have some suggestions. >> >> I noticed after you did the test recording it seemed to take a few seconds before you could play it. Even when you played it, 00 seconds was displayed for the time length. >> >> When you published from what I can tell you did it correctly. I would try a couple of things, turn off VO completely before you publish the file of course you need to turn it back on again before you publish. >> >> One more suggestion, do a warm reset by holding down the home and sleep buttons for 30-40 seconds and try the app again. >> >> So not to clutter the list if you like write me off list at gunn at tznet.com. >> >> Good luck, >> >> John >> >> Sarah: >> On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Hmm it shouldn't be. >>> Ok try this link instead. >>> >>> http://www.sendspace.com/file/gm4c5p >>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:24 PM, John Gunn wrote: >>> >>>> Hi: >>>> >>>> I clicked on the DropBox link and nothing happened. Safari came up however when interacting on the HTML, it's empty. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah lets hope someone can give me a hand. I've even asked on twitter and it's failed. lol! We'll see. >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Sarah >>>>>> >>>>>> On 15 Jan 2011, at 00:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ? the audio boo app on the iphone. a lot of people publish audio boos from there iphones which then can be posted to twitter and more sights at once. it is like the twaudio service but it sounds a lot better. >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, sorry about that. I was just puzzled. I don't use this app. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lynne >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sun Jan 16 23:04:01 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:04:01 +0000 Subject: Further to my last message re my navigation in mail problem In-Reply-To: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: Well, you learn something new every day, and thanks to all for replying. Turning off QuickNav did the trick. But I, wrongly, had thought QuickNav was only for use in Safari! So now I know ... :) Thanks again. On 16 Jan 2011, at 18:51, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Wherever I am, it feels as if I've sort of rotated the whole voiceover navigation round somehow. In menus, for instance, I get things spelled out when o-and-cursoring down. When reading back my text as I now type, left and right arrows (with vo or not) move by word, even though I have the rotor set to characters. > I'm sure there's an explanation for this but it's a bit disconcerting... > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 16 23:08:36 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:08:36 +0000 Subject: Further to my last message re my navigation in mail problem In-Reply-To: References: <20B4F9ED-72AA-4678-B9C3-C6BD82446329@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Dennis, FYI, there is a bug in the the current version of Mac OS X where Voice Over will act as though QuickNav has been turned on, even though it hasn't. To sort this out, simply turn Quick Nav on and off. HTH Take care ) James E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) Twitter: lnt2008 On 16 Jan 2011, at 23:04, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Well, you learn something new every day, and thanks to all for replying. > Turning off QuickNav did the trick. But I, wrongly, had thought QuickNav was only for use in Safari! So now I know ... :) > Thanks again. > > On 16 Jan 2011, at 18:51, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> Wherever I am, it feels as if I've sort of rotated the whole voiceover navigation round somehow. In menus, for instance, I get things spelled out when o-and-cursoring down. When reading back my text as I now type, left and right arrows (with vo or not) move by word, even though I have the rotor set to characters. >> I'm sure there's an explanation for this but it's a bit disconcerting... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 16 23:32:46 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:32:46 -0800 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! In-Reply-To: <3C6C9C62-988F-43D0-816D-395CFFBB9206@tznet.com> References: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> <9817CCFD-FEC2-403B-A21C-3EA36A6B8902@mac-access.net> <772DB0BB-3831-489D-A22B-495C2A24AC5B@gmail.com> <39A29F77-78F7-4D31-A91A-CCBF842687D6@tznet.com> <6C03B3DD-3D52-4FE3-B76B-12E4274D9DBC@gmail.com> <074C1758-B551-494C-8486-BE65334133DC@tznet.com> <6CD1AEB3-EA68-4599-B17A-B879585C6AB8@gmail.com> <3C6C9C62-988F-43D0-816D-395CFFBB9206@tznet.com> Message-ID: <5F2C2836-11E7-49A4-B5D3-DD97B47052AC@gmail.com> Well here is what I did. I tried again with your steps. As I didn't have to do the worm reset as I did that twice yesterday lol I thought that not neccessary to do it again. link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/8me8i1 Take care and if anyone one else uses this I'd be happy to hear suggestions. thanks. On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:50 PM, John Gunn wrote: > I presume this never worked before? > > Other than the below, not sure what to suggest next. > > Take care, > > John > > > On Jan 16, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I tried both and no joy. I wonder what's going on. I had to do a worm reset as the gv app was freezing vo. lol! >> On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:27 PM, John Gunn wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I heard the file a couple of times but since I don't use the app not sure what's going on but have some suggestions. >>> >>> I noticed after you did the test recording it seemed to take a few seconds before you could play it. Even when you played it, 00 seconds was displayed for the time length. >>> >>> When you published from what I can tell you did it correctly. I would try a couple of things, turn off VO completely before you publish the file of course you need to turn it back on again before you publish. >>> >>> One more suggestion, do a warm reset by holding down the home and sleep buttons for 30-40 seconds and try the app again. >>> >>> So not to clutter the list if you like write me off list at gunn at tznet.com. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> >>> John >>> >>> Sarah: >>> On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Hmm it shouldn't be. >>>> Ok try this link instead. >>>> >>>> http://www.sendspace.com/file/gm4c5p >>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:24 PM, John Gunn wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi: >>>>> >>>>> I clicked on the DropBox link and nothing happened. Safari came up however when interacting on the HTML, it's empty. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah lets hope someone can give me a hand. I've even asked on twitter and it's failed. lol! We'll see. >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Sarah >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 15 Jan 2011, at 00:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ? the audio boo app on the iphone. a lot of people publish audio boos from there iphones which then can be posted to twitter and more sights at once. it is like the twaudio service but it sounds a lot better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK, sorry about that. I was just puzzled. I don't use this app. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From w9fyi at me.com Mon Jan 17 02:41:49 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:41:49 -0700 Subject: Question re: Kobo App In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Last I thought there was an audio captcha. Howver, if you need call the Kobo tech support, they are very willing to assist with stuff lke this. On Jan 16, 2011, at 12:09 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello folks, > > I have downloaded the Kobo app from the App store previously, but could never use it as it asked me to create an account. Wen I tried to do this on the Kobo site, there was a Capptcha. How have people gotten around this please? > > Thanks > Take care :) > James > > > > > E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.london26 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - please tell me who you are and where you found my details when adding me. :) > Twitter: lnt2008 > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From w9fyi at me.com Mon Jan 17 02:44:04 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:44:04 -0700 Subject: Kobo and finding where you were the last time you read. In-Reply-To: <9C326D65-267E-471A-BA65-30CF05B7696F@gmail.com> References: <9C326D65-267E-471A-BA65-30CF05B7696F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <96ECE39E-F97F-4480-BB29-49EF3532694B@me.com> That is one of the anoyances of the ap. If any of you guys have issues with kobo please email help at kobobooks.com It is really very important that they know that there are blind people using the app. On Jan 16, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi all. > > I do not hope some of you gets this message twice. > > I have found out to read and buy books on kobo, that is great, and you can buy many great titles. > > But one thing annoys me, how can you quickly go to the place you stopped reading the next time you open the kobo app on your IPhone. I am a braille user, if it makes any differences. > > the only way I know is to check which page I am reading before closing kobo by pressing space +dots 3 and 4 and remember the page number, and then press space + dots 1,4,5,6 until I reach the correct page. the next time I open the app. > > Best regards Annie. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Mon Jan 17 04:34:09 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:34:09 -0500 Subject: unzipping files with a password In-Reply-To: <0E3B6869-A001-43CC-B6A1-D1223A69853F@googlemail.com> References: <0E3B6869-A001-43CC-B6A1-D1223A69853F@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4823E839-FA34-448C-B8D9-42345FB4A232@insightbb.com> Thanks Lewis. I will go to Google to see if I can find it. Bill Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Mon Jan 17 04:36:26 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:36:26 -0500 Subject: unzipping files with a password In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Lynn. I thought I would check to see if there is any thing out there. Bill deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Mon Jan 17 04:46:21 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:46:21 -0500 Subject: Unzipping password protected files In-Reply-To: <035EF4EB-C457-4666-9182-8DB47B3B9029@me.com> References: <035EF4EB-C457-4666-9182-8DB47B3B9029@me.com> Message-ID: Thanks Simon, I have been interested to see if They could be unzipped. I have been wanting to down load my bookshare books with the mac. Bill Deatherage From gunn at tznet.com Mon Jan 17 05:02:26 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:02:26 -0600 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! In-Reply-To: <5F2C2836-11E7-49A4-B5D3-DD97B47052AC@gmail.com> References: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> <9817CCFD-FEC2-403B-A21C-3EA36A6B8902@mac-access.net> <772DB0BB-3831-489D-A22B-495C2A24AC5B@gmail.com> <39A29F77-78F7-4D31-A91A-CCBF842687D6@tznet.com> <6C03B3DD-3D52-4FE3-B76B-12E4274D9DBC@gmail.com> <074C1758-B551-494C-8486-BE65334133DC@tznet.com> <6CD1AEB3-EA68-4599-B17A-B879585C6AB8@gmail.com> <3C6C9C62-988F-43D0-816D-395CFFBB9206@tznet.com> <5F2C2836-11E7-49A4-B5D3-DD97B47052AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Not sure what to tell you, hopefully some one else will have an answer. On Jan 16, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Well here is what I did. I tried again with your steps. As I didn't have to do the worm reset as I did that twice yesterday lol I thought that not neccessary to do it again. > > > link: > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/8me8i1 > > Take care and if anyone one else uses this I'd be happy to hear suggestions. thanks. > On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:50 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> I presume this never worked before? >> >> Other than the below, not sure what to suggest next. >> >> Take care, >> >> John >> >> >> On Jan 16, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I tried both and no joy. I wonder what's going on. I had to do a worm reset as the gv app was freezing vo. lol! >>> On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:27 PM, John Gunn wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I heard the file a couple of times but since I don't use the app not sure what's going on but have some suggestions. >>>> >>>> I noticed after you did the test recording it seemed to take a few seconds before you could play it. Even when you played it, 00 seconds was displayed for the time length. >>>> >>>> When you published from what I can tell you did it correctly. I would try a couple of things, turn off VO completely before you publish the file of course you need to turn it back on again before you publish. >>>> >>>> One more suggestion, do a warm reset by holding down the home and sleep buttons for 30-40 seconds and try the app again. >>>> >>>> So not to clutter the list if you like write me off list at gunn at tznet.com. >>>> >>>> Good luck, >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> Sarah: >>>> On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hmm it shouldn't be. >>>>> Ok try this link instead. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.sendspace.com/file/gm4c5p >>>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:24 PM, John Gunn wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi: >>>>>> >>>>>> I clicked on the DropBox link and nothing happened. Safari came up however when interacting on the HTML, it's empty. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah lets hope someone can give me a hand. I've even asked on twitter and it's failed. lol! We'll see. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Sarah >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 15 Jan 2011, at 00:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? the audio boo app on the iphone. a lot of people publish audio boos from there iphones which then can be posted to twitter and more sights at once. it is like the twaudio service but it sounds a lot better. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK, sorry about that. I was just puzzled. I don't use this app. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From moriond at mac.com Mon Jan 17 05:21:33 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:21:33 -1000 Subject: Kobo and finding where you were the last time you read. In-Reply-To: <96ECE39E-F97F-4480-BB29-49EF3532694B@me.com> References: <9C326D65-267E-471A-BA65-30CF05B7696F@gmail.com> <96ECE39E-F97F-4480-BB29-49EF3532694B@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Annie, Justin, and Others, May I suggest that instead of sending email to help at kobobooks.com that you file a request on their customer care page: http://kobo.zendesk.com/ It's a bit of a pain, because you need to register and negotiate a CAPTHCA -- which I think they might have in audio version now. However, after sending in previous email requests and not getting a reply, I filed a really detailed request on their customer care page: #89089 "VoiceOver accessibility issues for Kobo eReader app for iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad". That showed up in their system, and it still shows up as being processed. (I'm not sure whether you can view the requests of other customers if you log in and know the number, but the web page that I access is: http://kobo.zendesk.com/requests/89089 and I have to log in to see the status) The issue I found is that when you change the Page Transition Style to "Scrolling" so that you can easily move from chapter to chapter (and pages that only have graphics like cover images or maps) with VoiceOver on, you cannot use their bookmarking feature. Even if I switch the Page Transition Style to "None" or to "Page Fade" or "Page Curl" so that I can set a bookmark, as soon as I set the Transition Style back to "Scrolling" the app crashes. The best I've been able to do is to read in whole chapters and then double tap the center of the screen to bring up the page view controls, do a four finger flick up (to the first element -- the "I'm Reading" button), then flick right to the "Icon TOC" button and double tap to bring up the Table of Contents. I navigate to the chapter I'm at and double tap (e.g., if I just finished chapter 6, I navigate to chapter 7 and double tap). You won't hear "selected" by your current chapter, although it's marked in the Contents screen. Just make sure that you're taken to the correct chapter when you double tap. Then leave the book. HTH. Incidentally, I've also asked them to change the announcement for the "Icon TOC" button to "Table of Contents" and use VoiceOver hints to tell users to change the page transition style. And of course, they should fix the mislabeled buttons so that readers can find the "Settings" button to change the page transition style. I'd be happy to post a guide for using the Kobo eReader app at the applevis.com, but the last several versions have mislabeled buttons, and I've already had to generate several set of different instructions on how to set up the app with the incorrect labels and any changes that they make in the layout. I'm hoping they will actually at least sort out the wrong labels. This is so annoying because doing the set up is a one-time thing, and they've made it difficult for new users. Cheers, Esther On Jan 16, 2011, at 16:44, Justin Mann wrote: > That is one of the anoyances of the ap. If any of you guys have issues with kobo please email > help at kobobooks.com > It is really very important that they know that there are blind people using the app. > On Jan 16, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> I do not hope some of you gets this message twice. >> >> I have found out to read and buy books on kobo, that is great, and you can buy many great titles. >> >> But one thing annoys me, how can you quickly go to the place you stopped reading the next time you open the kobo app on your IPhone. I am a braille user, if it makes any differences. >> >> the only way I know is to check which page I am reading before closing kobo by pressing space +dots 3 and 4 and remember the page number, and then press space + dots 1,4,5,6 until I reach the correct page. the next time I open the app. >> >> Best regards Annie. From w9fyi at me.com Mon Jan 17 05:33:40 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:33:40 -0700 Subject: Kobo and finding where you were the last time you read. In-Reply-To: References: <9C326D65-267E-471A-BA65-30CF05B7696F@gmail.com> <96ECE39E-F97F-4480-BB29-49EF3532694B@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Esther, I will certainly log in to the customercare website and see what can be done. I hope that maybe we can add to this ticket? The Kobo app itself is great with what it can provide. On Jan 16, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Annie, Justin, and Others, > > May I suggest that instead of sending email to help at kobobooks.com that you file a request on their customer care page: > http://kobo.zendesk.com/ > It's a bit of a pain, because you need to register and negotiate a CAPTHCA -- which I think they might have in audio version now. However, after sending in previous email requests and not getting a reply, I filed a really detailed request on their customer care page: #89089 "VoiceOver accessibility issues for Kobo eReader app for iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad". That showed up in their system, and it still shows up as being processed. (I'm not sure whether you can view the requests of other customers if you log in and know the number, but the web page that I access is: > http://kobo.zendesk.com/requests/89089 > and I have to log in to see the status) > > The issue I found is that when you change the Page Transition Style to "Scrolling" so that you can easily move from chapter to chapter (and pages that only have graphics like cover images or maps) with VoiceOver on, you cannot use their bookmarking feature. Even if I switch the Page Transition Style to "None" or to "Page Fade" or "Page Curl" so that I can set a bookmark, as soon as I set the Transition Style back to "Scrolling" the app crashes. > > The best I've been able to do is to read in whole chapters and then double tap the center of the screen to bring up the page view controls, do a four finger flick up (to the first element -- the "I'm Reading" button), then flick right to the "Icon TOC" button and double tap to bring up the Table of Contents. I navigate to the chapter I'm at and double tap (e.g., if I just finished chapter 6, I navigate to chapter 7 and double tap). You won't hear "selected" by your current chapter, although it's marked in the Contents screen. Just make sure that you're taken to the correct chapter when you double tap. Then leave the book. > > HTH. Incidentally, I've also asked them to change the announcement for the "Icon TOC" button to "Table of Contents" and use VoiceOver hints to tell users to change the page transition style. And of course, they should fix the mislabeled buttons so that readers can find the "Settings" button to change the page transition style. I'd be happy to post a guide for using the Kobo eReader app at the applevis.com, but the last several versions have mislabeled buttons, and I've already had to generate several set of different instructions on how to set up the app with the incorrect labels and any changes that they make in the layout. I'm hoping they will actually at least sort out the wrong labels. This is so annoying because doing the set up is a one-time thing, and they've made it difficult for new users. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jan 16, 2011, at 16:44, Justin Mann wrote: > >> That is one of the anoyances of the ap. If any of you guys have issues with kobo please email >> help at kobobooks.com >> It is really very important that they know that there are blind people using the app. >> On Jan 16, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >>> Hi all. >>> >>> I do not hope some of you gets this message twice. >>> >>> I have found out to read and buy books on kobo, that is great, and you can buy many great titles. >>> >>> But one thing annoys me, how can you quickly go to the place you stopped reading the next time you open the kobo app on your IPhone. I am a braille user, if it makes any differences. >>> >>> the only way I know is to check which page I am reading before closing kobo by pressing space +dots 3 and 4 and remember the page number, and then press space + dots 1,4,5,6 until I reach the correct page. the next time I open the app. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 17 06:27:59 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:27:59 -0800 Subject: a question about the audio boo app: I can't publish. why! In-Reply-To: References: <17CC5835-BF52-4623-B4FF-94864B9EAB6A@mac-access.net> <9817CCFD-FEC2-403B-A21C-3EA36A6B8902@mac-access.net> <772DB0BB-3831-489D-A22B-495C2A24AC5B@gmail.com> <39A29F77-78F7-4D31-A91A-CCBF842687D6@tznet.com> <6C03B3DD-3D52-4FE3-B76B-12E4274D9DBC@gmail.com> <074C1758-B551-494C-8486-BE65334133DC@tznet.com> <6CD1AEB3-EA68-4599-B17A-B879585C6AB8@gmail.com> <3C6C9C62-988F-43D0-816D-395CFFBB9206@tznet.com> <5F2C2836-11E7-49A4-B5D3-DD97B47052AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah I might contact the person who uses it. this is not a very fun app to use! On Jan 16, 2011, at 9:02 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Not sure what to tell you, hopefully some one else will have an answer. > > > On Jan 16, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Well here is what I did. I tried again with your steps. As I didn't have to do the worm reset as I did that twice yesterday lol I thought that not neccessary to do it again. >> >> >> link: >> >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/8me8i1 >> >> Take care and if anyone one else uses this I'd be happy to hear suggestions. thanks. >> On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:50 PM, John Gunn wrote: >> >>> I presume this never worked before? >>> >>> Other than the below, not sure what to suggest next. >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> On Jan 16, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I tried both and no joy. I wonder what's going on. I had to do a worm reset as the gv app was freezing vo. lol! >>>> On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:27 PM, John Gunn wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I heard the file a couple of times but since I don't use the app not sure what's going on but have some suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> I noticed after you did the test recording it seemed to take a few seconds before you could play it. Even when you played it, 00 seconds was displayed for the time length. >>>>> >>>>> When you published from what I can tell you did it correctly. I would try a couple of things, turn off VO completely before you publish the file of course you need to turn it back on again before you publish. >>>>> >>>>> One more suggestion, do a warm reset by holding down the home and sleep buttons for 30-40 seconds and try the app again. >>>>> >>>>> So not to clutter the list if you like write me off list at gunn at tznet.com. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck, >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> Sarah: >>>>> On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmm it shouldn't be. >>>>>> Ok try this link instead. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.sendspace.com/file/gm4c5p >>>>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:24 PM, John Gunn wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I clicked on the DropBox link and nothing happened. Safari came up however when interacting on the HTML, it's empty. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah lets hope someone can give me a hand. I've even asked on twitter and it's failed. lol! We'll see. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Sarah >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 15 Jan 2011, at 00:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ? the audio boo app on the iphone. a lot of people publish audio boos from there iphones which then can be posted to twitter and more sights at once. it is like the twaudio service but it sounds a lot better. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK, sorry about that. I was just puzzled. I don't use this app. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Mon Jan 17 09:15:49 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:15:49 +0100 Subject: Kobo and finding where you were the last time you read. In-Reply-To: <96ECE39E-F97F-4480-BB29-49EF3532694B@me.com> References: <9C326D65-267E-471A-BA65-30CF05B7696F@gmail.com> <96ECE39E-F97F-4480-BB29-49EF3532694B@me.com> Message-ID: Hi. I have send kobo a mail twice. about accessibility Best regards Annie. On 17/01/2011, at 03.44, Justin Mann wrote: > That is one of the anoyances of the ap. If any of you guys have issues with kobo please email > help at kobobooks.com > It is really very important that they know that there are blind people using the app. > On Jan 16, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> I do not hope some of you gets this message twice. >> >> I have found out to read and buy books on kobo, that is great, and you can buy many great titles. >> >> But one thing annoys me, how can you quickly go to the place you stopped reading the next time you open the kobo app on your IPhone. I am a braille user, if it makes any differences. >> >> the only way I know is to check which page I am reading before closing kobo by pressing space +dots 3 and 4 and remember the page number, and then press space + dots 1,4,5,6 until I reach the correct page. the next time I open the app. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 17 09:50:20 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:50:20 +0000 Subject: Apology From Lynne Message-ID: <274378F1-A223-4017-A1F9-1F142EEB61FC@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Yesterday I wrote a message in response to a query about password protected files. In that message, I made a comment regarding people always wanting to use free software. That comment didn't come out quite the way I intended it too, and may have sounded like a criticism or a snide remark. I just wanted to assure the list that that was not my intention, and I apologise unreservedly for any offence given by that comment. It was a badly phrased message, intended at the time to mean something very different to how it sounded. So, if I may, let me just clear things up. Of course, people want to use what's free where possible; and there's nothing whatsoever wrong with that. In fact, it is one of the good things about OSX that there are so many programmers out there who do what they do for the fun of it, and like to share the fruits of their labours with others. That is something which rarely happens elsewhere, and that is unfortunate. What I was originally trying to say was that sometimes, we do have to venture beyond what is free if we want additional functionality. So it's a bit of a trade-off between doing what we can at no cost, or doing what we want at little cost. Most of us in this group have, I think, bought various items from time to time. But i understand the frustration sometimes in not being able to achieve what we want to achieve. The disabled in particular have traditionally been lumbered with a lot of additional costs just to compete on an equal footing with the rest of us. That is wrong, and I have said so in the passed. Anyway this is in danger of becoming an essay. So let me just say again that I did not intend any offence by my comments which, I freely acknowledge, were badly phrased. Lynne From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Jan 17 11:45:34 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:45:34 +0000 Subject: reading PDF in Preview question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29D8454C-08CD-45F9-9B37-FFE2F45380F5@hopewell.org.uk> Hello Jim, The way I get round this problem is to convert the PDF document into a RTF document and then use TextEdit to read it line by line. When in Preview press Command+A to select all the text in the document and then go to the Preview menu bar and select Preview and then Services and then create new TextEdit WIndow containing selection. You might have to press the tab key in Preview to get into the correct pane the Command+A to select the text of the entire document. I cannot remember precisely which Preview pane you need to be in to do this. Good luck.... Paul Hopewell On 15 Jan 2011, at 18:31, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > HI Gang: > > Is it possible to read a PDF document line by line with the cursor keys? If so, how so? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Jan 17 11:57:18 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:57:18 +0000 Subject: Disabling QuickNav keys Message-ID: Hello All, Like others I sometimes accidentally get into QUickNav mode on my iMac and am then confused for a while until I realise what has happened. Is there any way to permanently disable the QUickNav navigation mode so that you cannot accidentally get into that mode? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Jan 17 12:09:57 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:09:57 +0000 Subject: Disabling QuickNav keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46BF6F88-2CC6-4C5D-A931-63A2645BBB4B@googlemail.com> I do not think there is a way but if there is i would like to know it to as i do not like quick nav and sometimes do the same thing. Ian McNamara From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Mon Jan 17 12:20:21 2011 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria from Australia) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:20:21 +1100 Subject: Kobo and finding where you were the last time you read. In-Reply-To: References: <9C326D65-267E-471A-BA65-30CF05B7696F@gmail.com> <96ECE39E-F97F-4480-BB29-49EF3532694B@me.com> Message-ID: <4D343405.3080501@gmail.com> HI. i have just submitted a request. Maria and Karly from Australia Friendship flourishes at the fountain of forgiveness. William A. Ward twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book & email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com please check out www.powerradio104.com PROUD MEMBER and support volunteer for TAFN www.tafn.org.uk my groups BlindSightedChat-subscribe at yahoogroups.com http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindsightedchat shelter-from-the-storm-subscribe at yahoogroups.com On 17/01/2011 4:33 PM, Justin Mann wrote: > Hi Esther, > I will certainly log in to the customercare website and see what can be done. I hope that maybe we can add to this ticket? The Kobo app itself is great with what it can provide. > On Jan 16, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Annie, Justin, and Others, >> >> May I suggest that instead of sending email to help at kobobooks.com that you file a request on their customer care page: >> http://kobo.zendesk.com/ >> It's a bit of a pain, because you need to register and negotiate a CAPTHCA -- which I think they might have in audio version now. However, after sending in previous email requests and not getting a reply, I filed a really detailed request on their customer care page: #89089 "VoiceOver accessibility issues for Kobo eReader app for iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad". That showed up in their system, and it still shows up as being processed. (I'm not sure whether you can view the requests of other customers if you log in and know the number, but the web page that I access is: >> http://kobo.zendesk.com/requests/89089 >> and I have to log in to see the status) >> >> The issue I found is that when you change the Page Transition Style to "Scrolling" so that you can easily move from chapter to chapter (and pages that only have graphics like cover images or maps) with VoiceOver on, you cannot use their bookmarking feature. Even if I switch the Page Transition Style to "None" or to "Page Fade" or "Page Curl" so that I can set a bookmark, as soon as I set the Transition Style back to "Scrolling" the app crashes. >> >> The best I've been able to do is to read in whole chapters and then double tap the center of the screen to bring up the page view controls, do a four finger flick up (to the first element -- the "I'm Reading" button), then flick right to the "Icon TOC" button and double tap to bring up the Table of Contents. I navigate to the chapter I'm at and double tap (e.g., if I just finished chapter 6, I navigate to chapter 7 and double tap). You won't hear "selected" by your current chapter, although it's marked in the Contents screen. Just make sure that you're taken to the correct chapter when you double tap. Then leave the book. >> >> HTH. Incidentally, I've also asked them to change the announcement for the "Icon TOC" button to "Table of Contents" and use VoiceOver hints to tell users to change the page transition style. And of course, they should fix the mislabeled buttons so that readers can find the "Settings" button to change the page transition style. I'd be happy to post a guide for using the Kobo eReader app at the applevis.com, but the last several versions have mislabeled buttons, and I've already had to generate several set of different instructions on how to set up the app with the incorrect labels and any changes that they make in the layout. I'm hoping they will actually at least sort out the wrong labels. This is so annoying because doing the set up is a one-time thing, and they've made it difficult for new users. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Jan 16, 2011, at 16:44, Justin Mann wrote: >> >>> That is one of the anoyances of the ap. If any of you guys have issues with kobo please email >>> help at kobobooks.com >>> It is really very important that they know that there are blind people using the app. >>> On Jan 16, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all. >>>> >>>> I do not hope some of you gets this message twice. >>>> >>>> I have found out to read and buy books on kobo, that is great, and you can buy many great titles. >>>> >>>> But one thing annoys me, how can you quickly go to the place you stopped reading the next time you open the kobo app on your IPhone. I am a braille user, if it makes any differences. >>>> >>>> the only way I know is to check which page I am reading before closing kobo by pressing space +dots 3 and 4 and remember the page number, and then press space + dots 1,4,5,6 until I reach the correct page. the next time I open the app. >>>> >>>> Best regards Annie. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 17 12:45:39 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:45:39 +0000 Subject: Disabling QuickNav keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18F68083-0E9E-41AF-B9EB-D6B6B38DBF75@mac-access.net> Hello Paul On 17 Jan 2011, at 11:57, Paul Hopewell wrote: > ? Like others I sometimes accidentally get into QUickNav mode on my iMac and am then confused for a while until I realise what has happened. > Is there any way to permanently disable the QUickNav navigation mode so that you cannot accidentally get into that mode? This is just a personal perspective. But I think that Apple's choice of hot keys for this mode was a mistake. It should have been VoiceOver+Left/right arrow, not just left/right arrow. There is no way to disable the mode either. Hopefully, Apple will listen to suggestions on this point. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jan 17 12:49:25 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:49:25 +0000 Subject: Disabling QuickNav keys In-Reply-To: <46BF6F88-2CC6-4C5D-A931-63A2645BBB4B@googlemail.com> References: <46BF6F88-2CC6-4C5D-A931-63A2645BBB4B@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hello Ian On 17 Jan 2011, at 12:09, Ian McNamara wrote: > ? I do not think there is a way but if there is i would like to know it to as i do not like quick nav and sometimes do the same thing. > You say you don't like it. But you know, it can be incredibly useful at times. An example is when you're in the info pane of the Finder. You can just cursor down, rather than having to hold down the VoiceOver keys. That, for some, is incredibly useful. We have a friend for instance, who has difficulties with her hands. She can't coordinate multiple fingers at the same time. For her, QuickNav is the best thing since sliced bread! But yes, hopefully Apple will fix this bug in due course. Lynne From mike at busboom.at Mon Jan 17 15:10:19 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:10:19 +0100 Subject: Good SIP Client for the Mac? Message-ID: <73E09E64-0EAD-4E10-8BBC-1FBF250FA01B@busboom.at> Greetings to all of you, Here in my office, I occasionally need to place calls outside Austria, and I'd rather do this via the Mac than via the normal landline. The reasons for me wanting to do this are more administrative in nature. Suffice it to say that I can save our organization money through this approach. For calling the US and Canada, I use MagicJack which, by the way, works very nicely with the Mac. I have a SIP account with Voipbuster, but to my knowledge, they don't have a Mac client. I suppose, therefore, that the only thing I need is some sort of SIP client that would just let me enter my Voipbuster information and call from there. So what, if any, SIP client works well with Voice Over? Or, does anybody know if MagicJack has good rates to European destinations? Kindest regards and best wishes for 2011, Mike From w9fyi at me.com Mon Jan 17 16:31:35 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:31:35 -0700 Subject: bookmarks in safari? Message-ID: <3FF07AB0-76B7-4F44-9DB4-49A7EA480337@me.com> HI all, This is a rather dumb question. How do you access bookmarks in safari? Surely there is some kind of keyboard shortcut? Is it better to save bookmarks to some otherplace than the bookmarks bar? ? Thanks From jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com Mon Jan 17 17:32:47 2011 From: jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com (Jonathan Tyrer) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:32:47 +0000 Subject: OmniFocus? GTD? Message-ID: Hi Does anyone know what the latest state access is like with the OmniFocus suite? Also, is there anything like it, if not quite as complicated, that could be used instead? Thanks in advance. JT From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Mon Jan 17 17:42:09 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:42:09 +0000 Subject: Disabling QuickNav keys In-Reply-To: References: <46BF6F88-2CC6-4C5D-A931-63A2645BBB4B@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <8A34849B-9993-4630-8406-7C914A1A9ED5@gmail.com> Hi there! Yes quick nav is good but when apple decided to add this feature I'm surprised they did not make a master on off switch! For the very reason that some people would not want to use it! So this really is not just a access problem or is quick nav only for vo users? So do you write to apple or access! To suggest adding a master button! Colin Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 17 Jan 2011, at 12:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Ian > > On 17 Jan 2011, at 12:09, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> ? I do not think there is a way but if there is i would like to know it to as i do not like quick nav and sometimes do the same thing. >> > You say you don't like it. But you know, it can be incredibly useful at times. An example is when you're in the info pane of the Finder. You can just cursor down, rather than having to hold down the VoiceOver keys. That, for some, is incredibly useful. > > We have a friend for instance, who has difficulties with her hands. She can't coordinate multiple fingers at the same time. For her, QuickNav is the best thing since sliced bread! > > But yes, hopefully Apple will fix this bug in due course. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simoncavendish at me.com Mon Jan 17 17:44:26 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:44:26 +0000 Subject: bookmarks in safari? In-Reply-To: <3FF07AB0-76B7-4F44-9DB4-49A7EA480337@me.com> References: <3FF07AB0-76B7-4F44-9DB4-49A7EA480337@me.com> Message-ID: To gain access to your bookmarks, when you have launched Safari - and if Voiceover interacts automatically with html page - stop interacting with it, and then vo+left arrow to get to a checkbox which says "show bookmarks". Check it and then when you voright arrow you will get to a scrool area with which you need to interact. there you will find various things but one of them will be bookmarks and then vo + right arrow to the table of bookmarks with which to interact again. You can view them and delete them from there too. Hope this will help. Simon On 17 Jan 2011, at 16:31, Justin Mann wrote: > HI all, > This is a rather dumb question. How do you access bookmarks in safari? Surely there is some kind of keyboard shortcut? Is it better to save bookmarks to some otherplace than the bookmarks bar? ? > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Mon Jan 17 19:13:09 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:13:09 +0000 Subject: bookmarks in safari? In-Reply-To: References: <3FF07AB0-76B7-4F44-9DB4-49A7EA480337@me.com> Message-ID: <33759FE9-593C-4FE5-B559-F9241B8AEA8D@gmail.com> Hi there! You can also use command+option+b to open and close bookmarks! Colin Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 17 Jan 2011, at 17:44, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > To gain access to your bookmarks, when you have launched Safari - and if Voiceover interacts automatically with html page - stop interacting with it, and then vo+left arrow to get to a checkbox which says "show bookmarks". Check it and then when you voright arrow you will get to a scrool area with which you need to interact. there you will find various things but one of them will be bookmarks and then vo + right arrow to the table of bookmarks with which to interact again. You can view them and delete them from there too. > > Hope this will help. > > Simon > On 17 Jan 2011, at 16:31, Justin Mann wrote: > >> HI all, >> This is a rather dumb question. How do you access bookmarks in safari? Surely there is some kind of keyboard shortcut? Is it better to save bookmarks to some otherplace than the bookmarks bar? ? >> Thanks >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From basilclement at mac.com Mon Jan 17 21:09:37 2011 From: basilclement at mac.com (Basil Clement) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:09:37 +0000 Subject: VO on the iPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0F51F702-8EFE-43E9-BF3F-9FEFAF7123CC@mac.com> Hi all. As most people who use VO on their Macs will be aware, it is possible to change the way in which any given word is pronounced. Is there a way of doing the same on the iPhone? Many thanks in advance: Basil From Mattchao at verizon.net Mon Jan 17 21:57:03 2011 From: Mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:57:03 -0500 Subject: Searching the App Store Message-ID: <4A8C7F80-709F-432F-AD5C-735716862C58@verizon.net> Hi, Folks! This is my first time accessing the App Store through my MacBook Pro. Is there a search field option so I can look for a program? I'm trying to find and download Echolink for the Mac, and am having no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jan 17 22:04:44 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:04:44 +0000 Subject: Searching the App Store In-Reply-To: <4A8C7F80-709F-432F-AD5C-735716862C58@verizon.net> References: <4A8C7F80-709F-432F-AD5C-735716862C58@verizon.net> Message-ID: <8D3B9E0E-0232-4F59-9E82-1322A72A6B79@mac-access.net> Hi Matthew, On 17 Jan 2011, at 21:57, Matthew Chao wrote: > This is my first time accessing the App Store through my MacBook Pro. Is there a search field option so I can look for a program? I'm trying to find and download Echolink for the Mac, and am having no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sure, in the toolbar, you'll find a search field. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a shortcut to get to it. HTH TC :) J > Hi, Folks! This is my first time accessing the App Store through my MacBook Pro. Is there a search field option so I can look for a program? I'm trying to find and download Echolink for the Mac, and am having no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > Matthew Chao > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Mon Jan 17 22:49:27 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:49:27 +0000 Subject: Searching the App Store In-Reply-To: <8D3B9E0E-0232-4F59-9E82-1322A72A6B79@mac-access.net> References: <4A8C7F80-709F-432F-AD5C-735716862C58@verizon.net> <8D3B9E0E-0232-4F59-9E82-1322A72A6B79@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <36387A66-138A-4E20-96DF-FB558F7FDBA2@gmail.com> Hi there! Try command f! Colin Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 17 Jan 2011, at 22:04, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Matthew, > On 17 Jan 2011, at 21:57, Matthew Chao wrote: > >> This is my first time accessing the App Store through my MacBook Pro. Is there a search field option so I can look for a program? I'm trying to find and download Echolink for the Mac, and am having no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > Sure, in the toolbar, you'll find a search field. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a shortcut to get to it. > > HTH > TC :) > J > >> Hi, Folks! This is my first time accessing the App Store through my MacBook Pro. Is there a search field option so I can look for a program? I'm trying to find and download Echolink for the Mac, and am having no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. >> >> Matthew Chao >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jan 17 23:28:54 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:28:54 +0000 Subject: Searching the App Store In-Reply-To: <36387A66-138A-4E20-96DF-FB558F7FDBA2@gmail.com> References: <4A8C7F80-709F-432F-AD5C-735716862C58@verizon.net> <8D3B9E0E-0232-4F59-9E82-1322A72A6B79@mac-access.net> <36387A66-138A-4E20-96DF-FB558F7FDBA2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7D599817-7E24-4A45-B28F-9C973A588A1A@mac-access.net> Hi Colin, On 17 Jan 2011, at 22:49, Colin M wrote: > Try command f! I think I tried that, but maybe I didn't. Thanks. TC :) J > Hi there! > Try command f! > Colin > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > On 17 Jan 2011, at 22:04, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Matthew, >> On 17 Jan 2011, at 21:57, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >>> This is my first time accessing the App Store through my MacBook Pro. Is there a search field option so I can look for a program? I'm trying to find and download Echolink for the Mac, and am having no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. >> >> Sure, in the toolbar, you'll find a search field. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a shortcut to get to it. >> >> HTH >> TC :) >> J >> >>> Hi, Folks! This is my first time accessing the App Store through my MacBook Pro. Is there a search field option so I can look for a program? I'm trying to find and download Echolink for the Mac, and am having no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Matthew Chao >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Mon Jan 17 23:51:24 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:51:24 -0500 Subject: finding radio stations in I Tunes Message-ID: Hello, can you listen to radio stations in I Tunes? when I put a stations call sign in I get a message saying the call sign not in I tunes store. What am i doing wrong? and what do I need to correct it? Bill Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Mon Jan 17 23:58:15 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:58:15 -0500 Subject: another I Tunes question Message-ID: <63DFDA78-DC60-42E9-95EF-94A8F6E48BE7@insightbb.com> Hello, somehow I did something to delete I tunes from the docks. what do I need to put it back there? Thanks to everyone for all there help. Bill deatherage From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Tue Jan 18 00:18:50 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:18:50 +0000 Subject: another I Tunes question In-Reply-To: <63DFDA78-DC60-42E9-95EF-94A8F6E48BE7@insightbb.com> References: <63DFDA78-DC60-42E9-95EF-94A8F6E48BE7@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Hi Bill! Find Itunes in your home directory and open with command +o When it opens go to the doc and scroll to itunes and open vo+shift+m in there in options is keep in doc and just vo+space! and your done! Colin Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 17 Jan 2011, at 23:58, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > somehow I did something to delete I tunes from the docks. what do I need to put it back there? > Thanks to everyone for all there help. > Bill deatherage > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 00:36:30 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:36:30 -0500 Subject: Facebook on the mac? Message-ID: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> Hi, I'm just curious how you all do facebook on the mac? Is there software to look at what your friends post? I can see and do chats on adium, but I want to see what people post. Is this possible, and if so, how is it done with any programe? Courtney From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Jan 18 00:44:20 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:44:20 +0000 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> Hi i don't use a program i just log into Facebook the mobile site works the best as its less to deal with but you can also use the normal Facebook to i also use adium for the chat messages but the sites are accessible too. no program needed just your login details etc hope i understood the question wright jules On 18 Jan 2011, at 00:36, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I'm just curious how you all do facebook on the mac? Is there software to look at what your friends post? I can see and do chats on adium, but I want to see what people post. Is this possible, and if so, how is it done with any programe? > > Courtney > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 18 01:45:28 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:45:28 -0600 Subject: Skype Message-ID: <568BF525-2259-4688-BA0D-55A02E1499B5@sbcglobal.net> I am having some difficulties with Skype and VO. Any where I can go look for solutions? From billd at insightbb.com Tue Jan 18 02:34:22 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:34:22 -0500 Subject: another I Tunes question In-Reply-To: References: <63DFDA78-DC60-42E9-95EF-94A8F6E48BE7@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <4B68DCDA-F3A9-4E0E-BAE8-66A8C9206AF0@insightbb.com> Hi Colin, Thanks for the information. I now have I tunes back in the Doc. Bill deatherage From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jan 18 05:04:00 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:04:00 +0000 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: Hello' i do the same just logg in to m.facebook.com as it is the easyest to use. the main sight is accessable but i find it a bit of a mind field. m.facebook.com which is the mobile sight is limited to what you can do but i don't mind as a lot of the things such as the games we can't do anyway. Ian McNamara From support at mac-access.net Tue Jan 18 10:58:33 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:58:33 +0000 Subject: Disabling QuickNav keys In-Reply-To: <8A34849B-9993-4630-8406-7C914A1A9ED5@gmail.com> References: <46BF6F88-2CC6-4C5D-A931-63A2645BBB4B@googlemail.com> <8A34849B-9993-4630-8406-7C914A1A9ED5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Colin On 17 Jan 2011, at 17:42, Colin M wrote: > ? Yes quick nav is good but when apple decided to add this feature I'm surprised they did not make a master on off switch! > For the very reason that some people would not want to use it! > So this really is not just a access problem or is quick nav only for vo users? > So do you write to apple or access! > To suggest adding a master button! I have to say I fail to see why you'd want an extra switch. All Apple needs to do is fix the existing bug, and you have a switch that works well. I would say though that the hot key should be changed so that you need to use VO+Left+right cursor to toggle status. Lynne From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Jan 18 11:12:39 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:12:39 +0000 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> yes i agree with ian but its nice to know you have a choice of both smiley On 18 Jan 2011, at 05:04, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hello' i do the same just logg in to m.facebook.com as it is the easyest to use. the main sight is accessable but i find it a bit of a mind field. > > m.facebook.com > > which is the mobile sight is limited to what you can do but i don't mind as a lot of the things such as the games we can't do anyway. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 11:18:43 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:18:43 -0500 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> Hi, Thanks for this, I didn't even know about the mobile site, it works great. Courtney On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:12 AM, Julie Vaughan wrote: > yes i agree with ian but its nice to know you have a choice of both smiley > On 18 Jan 2011, at 05:04, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> Hello' i do the same just logg in to m.facebook.com as it is the easyest to use. the main sight is accessable but i find it a bit of a mind field. >> >> m.facebook.com >> >> which is the mobile sight is limited to what you can do but i don't mind as a lot of the things such as the games we can't do anyway. >> >> Ian McNamara >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Jan 18 11:26:41 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:26:41 +0000 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <29087145-33F2-4DE8-8846-1F4A01FCDC38@virginmedia.com> he he i sometimes have an idea but not always sure if i'm right lol ian back me up with the tecky stuff smiley jules On 18 Jan 2011, at 11:18, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Thanks for this, I didn't even know about the mobile site, it works great. > Courtney > > On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:12 AM, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> yes i agree with ian but its nice to know you have a choice of both smiley >> On 18 Jan 2011, at 05:04, Ian McNamara wrote: >> >>> Hello' i do the same just logg in to m.facebook.com as it is the easyest to use. the main sight is accessable but i find it a bit of a mind field. >>> >>> m.facebook.com >>> >>> which is the mobile sight is limited to what you can do but i don't mind as a lot of the things such as the games we can't do anyway. >>> >>> Ian McNamara >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 11:46:25 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:46:25 +0100 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: <29087145-33F2-4DE8-8846-1F4A01FCDC38@virginmedia.com> References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> <29087145-33F2-4DE8-8846-1F4A01FCDC38@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: Hi, Also, I am currently attempting to get in touch with another developer of a Facebook application which provides access to most, if not all of Facebook's features. Of course, that effort is debatable given that Facebook supposedly closes down on March 15 if no alternative can be reached, but I guess we'll just wait and see. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jan 18 11:53:19 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:53:19 +0000 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: <29087145-33F2-4DE8-8846-1F4A01FCDC38@virginmedia.com> References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> <29087145-33F2-4DE8-8846-1F4A01FCDC38@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <17325E2D-A9E3-414D-B98C-350E794655F9@googlemail.com> lol you had it right smiley. i just confermed what you said lol. Ian McNamara From moopiecurran at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 11:56:18 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:56:18 -0500 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: <17325E2D-A9E3-414D-B98C-350E794655F9@googlemail.com> References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> <29087145-33F2-4DE8-8846-1F4A01FCDC38@virginmedia.com> <17325E2D-A9E3-414D-B98C-350E794655F9@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <57EE56D1-4B28-4ED9-B014-C287F1CF0F99@gmail.com> Hi, I saw it was a rumor, facebook is supposedly not closing down on March15. I heard on the news that it's just a rumor. HTH, Courtney On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > lol you had it right smiley. i just confermed what you said lol. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jan 18 11:57:49 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:57:49 +0000 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> Message-ID: if any one has an ipod or iphone facebook for iphone is really cool to. the chat sort of works. Ian McNamara. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 12:02:28 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:02:28 +0100 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: <57EE56D1-4B28-4ED9-B014-C287F1CF0F99@gmail.com> References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> <29087145-33F2-4DE8-8846-1F4A01FCDC38@virginmedia.com> <17325E2D-A9E3-414D-B98C-350E794655F9@googlemail.com> <57EE56D1-4B28-4ED9-B014-C287F1CF0F99@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0BBB0E33-837E-465C-8752-98A905FE0873@gmail.com> Hi, Saying that people inside at Facebook would spread rumors wouldn't really make sense, since they are doubting the statements of the executive management team, apparently. Writing an article about that would be pretty pointless, since there are enough rumors out there. Which is why I want to wait and see until I check for developers. :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Jan 18 12:05:16 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:05:16 +0000 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: <17325E2D-A9E3-414D-B98C-350E794655F9@googlemail.com> References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> <29087145-33F2-4DE8-8846-1F4A01FCDC38@virginmedia.com> <17325E2D-A9E3-414D-B98C-350E794655F9@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <537AEFEC-28A4-46F5-BFC3-FE8DC2B487E7@virginmedia.com> cool i must be getting better smiley On 18 Jan 2011, at 11:53, Ian McNamara wrote: > lol you had it right smiley. i just confermed what you said lol. > > Ian McNamara > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jan 18 12:08:42 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:08:42 +0000 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: <0BBB0E33-837E-465C-8752-98A905FE0873@gmail.com> References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> <29087145-33F2-4DE8-8846-1F4A01FCDC38@virginmedia.com> <17325E2D-A9E3-414D-B98C-350E794655F9@googlemail.com> <57EE56D1-4B28-4ED9-B014-C287F1CF0F99@gmail.com> <0BBB0E33-837E-465C-8752-98A905FE0873@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0E7BD9C5-4250-4F57-B7CE-5DB10361EF93@googlemail.com> well i personally think that facebook won't shut down as there are that many people using it i think it would cause an uprore. Ian McNamara. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 12:11:43 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:11:43 +0100 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: <0E7BD9C5-4250-4F57-B7CE-5DB10361EF93@googlemail.com> References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> <29087145-33F2-4DE8-8846-1F4A01FCDC38@virginmedia.com> <17325E2D-A9E3-414D-B98C-350E794655F9@googlemail.com> <57EE56D1-4B28-4ED9-B014-C287F1CF0F99@gmail.com> <0BBB0E33-837E-465C-8752-98A905FE0873@gmail.com> <0E7BD9C5-4250-4F57-B7CE-5DB10361EF93@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Just a shout-out for people not to join this conversation. I don't want to sound like a moderator, but hopefully, this will be tolerated as this is already getting off topic and has nothing to do with Apple. I only mentioned it in context with the Mac, and my reasons for wanting to wait and see so it's not a lost cause. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Tue Jan 18 12:34:27 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:34:27 +0000 Subject: Facebook on the mac? In-Reply-To: References: <9D0995EE-763A-44C7-8FF6-BC829B2A832A@gmail.com> <507BD869-AFB5-40F7-9343-CF19713C7D19@virginmedia.com> <5150B2C2-0C42-4E89-93B1-8305389E87FA@virginmedia.com> <89A73CE1-EB5E-4AF7-B475-787FF32D8D2E@gmail.com> <29087145-33F2-4DE8-8846-1F4A01FCDC38@virginmedia.com> <17325E2D-A9E3-414D-B98C-350E794655F9@googlemail.com> <57EE56D1-4B28-4ED9-B014-C287F1CF0F99@gmail.com> <0BBB0E33-837E-465C-8752-98A905FE0873@gmail.com> <0E7BD9C5-4250-4F57-B7CE-5DB10361EF93@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <0D79BE6E-E472-4533-9338-EC4F62F65064@gmail.com> Hi Courtney! Just one more thing! If you do go to the main facebook site some say it is better to nav in group mode instead of dom! Colin Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 18 Jan 2011, at 12:11, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Just a shout-out for people not to join this conversation. I don't want to sound like a moderator, but hopefully, this will be tolerated as this is already getting off topic and has nothing to do with Apple. I only mentioned it in context with the Mac, and my reasons for wanting to wait and see so it's not a lost cause. > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From w9fyi at me.com Tue Jan 18 13:59:30 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:59:30 -0700 Subject: finding the BBC on aple tv? Message-ID: Hi all, Where does one find the BBC on aple tv? I'm able to check out internet radio, but under the catagories, news/talk, or international, I'm not finding the BBC at all. Any ideas? From w9fyi at me.com Tue Jan 18 17:55:03 2011 From: w9fyi at me.com (Justin Mann) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:55:03 -0700 Subject: airplay with apple tv? Message-ID: <711BEB30-9B63-4EC9-AB44-D2D51605516B@me.com> Hi all, I have the new apple tv hooked up and so far it is working quite well. However, when i try to use the airplay feature, from my iPone in Tu In Radio, I get just a brief clip of broadcast, and then no sound besides voice over telling me unknown artiest, unknown title. Any ideas? From moopiecurran at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 19:20:39 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 14:20:39 -0500 Subject: Apple Remote Message-ID: <64850DA7-016E-415E-9A8E-0110304CF6E9@gmail.com> Hi, How can I tell whether or not my mac mini, a 2009 model, can be controlled with an Apple Remote? Is there a setting I need to change? Courtney From gordon at mac-access.net Tue Jan 18 20:33:14 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:33:14 +0000 Subject: finding the BBC on aple tv? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hello Justin I wonder whether this is country specific. Lynne On 18 Jan 2011, at 13:59, Justin Mann wrote: > Hi all, > Where does one find the BBC on aple tv? I'm able to check out internet radio, but under the catagories, news/talk, or international, I'm not finding the BBC at all. Any ideas? From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 18 20:34:58 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:34:58 +0000 Subject: Apple Remote In-Reply-To: <64850DA7-016E-415E-9A8E-0110304CF6E9@gmail.com> References: <64850DA7-016E-415E-9A8E-0110304CF6E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Courtney On 18 Jan 2011, at 19:20, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > How can I tell whether or not my mac mini, a 2009 model, can be controlled with an Apple Remote? Is there a setting I need to change? I think what you want is under System Preferences > Security. Lynne From moopiecurran at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 20:46:24 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:46:24 -0500 Subject: Apple Remote In-Reply-To: References: <64850DA7-016E-415E-9A8E-0110304CF6E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Unfortunately, I don't see anything about an Apple remote under security, but that may be because I don't know what to look for. What I would like to do is I use my mac mini as an entertainment system, so I'd like to be able to control the volume of my computer with the Apple remote. Sorry I didn't clarify this in my earlier statement. Courtney On Jan 18, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Courtney > > On 18 Jan 2011, at 19:20, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> How can I tell whether or not my mac mini, a 2009 model, can be controlled with an Apple Remote? Is there a setting I need to change? > > I think what you want is under System Preferences > Security. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 18 20:53:30 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:53:30 +0000 Subject: Apple Remote In-Reply-To: References: <64850DA7-016E-415E-9A8E-0110304CF6E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8B7BD1CD-168D-4EBE-A264-4BB96C560412@mac-access.net> hello Courtney On 18 Jan 2011, at 20:46, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Unfortunately, I don't see anything about an Apple remote under security, but that may be because I don't know what to look for. What I would like to do is I use my mac mini as an entertainment system, so I'd like to be able to control the volume of my computer with the Apple remote. Sorry I didn't clarify this in my earlier statement. This might be another one of those instances where Server is different from OSX. I will check on our Macbook Pro. Lynne From moopiecurran at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 21:01:29 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:01:29 -0500 Subject: Apple Remote In-Reply-To: <8B7BD1CD-168D-4EBE-A264-4BB96C560412@mac-access.net> References: <64850DA7-016E-415E-9A8E-0110304CF6E9@gmail.com> <8B7BD1CD-168D-4EBE-A264-4BB96C560412@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi, Thanks so much, I really appreciate it. Courtney On Jan 18, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > hello Courtney > > On 18 Jan 2011, at 20:46, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> Unfortunately, I don't see anything about an Apple remote under security, but that may be because I don't know what to look for. What I would like to do is I use my mac mini as an entertainment system, so I'd like to be able to control the volume of my computer with the Apple remote. Sorry I didn't clarify this in my earlier statement. > > This might be another one of those instances where Server is different from OSX. I will check on our Macbook Pro. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Tue Jan 18 21:03:13 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:03:13 +0000 Subject: Advance Notification Message-ID: <2CED2EA4-582A-47BF-8F87-CF0DAC1D5C19@mac-access.net> Hello everybody At this stage there is no need to be in any way concerned about this, we will advise again closer to the time. However, on 17 February 2011 there will be a service interruption affecting this group, and all other mail services which we offer. The reason for this is that we are switching Internet providers on the network we use for our mail servers. This has proven necessary because of the rising costs involved with our current provider. They increased the cost of their business service by a staggering ?10.00 a month in January, this is ob top of the UK's 2.5% increase in VAT, (Value Added Tax), and Gordon and I just don't feel we are able to either justify or afford to continue to pay out the best part of ?60.00 per month for a business service which, in all honesty, is inferior to the service offered by the company now hosting our other trunk, at less than half the price. Hopefully, the outage will be only a matter of a few hours at most. Gordon expects to be provided with the technical data in advance so that he can re-configure the DNS mappings appropriately. But we don't want to just rush the mail servers back on line before that work is completed because if other servers do a SPF lookup for instance, and an invalid IP address is returned we risk being flagged as a "Spam" provider and we don't want that. We will let you know more specifics as we get them closer to the date. But if you have any questions feel free to contact the support address. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 19 00:49:23 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:49:23 -0800 Subject: the sendspace wizard and downloading Message-ID: Hello to all. does anyone have this trouble wherein you restart the sendspace wizard from a reboot or just by restarting the program that it will download your folder you started over again? a lot of people on twitter say this is supposed to happen. Here's what "m talking about. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/send%20space%20troubles.m4a Take care. From n0oxy at charter.net Wed Jan 19 01:56:20 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:56:20 -0600 Subject: Skype In-Reply-To: <568BF525-2259-4688-BA0D-55A02E1499B5@sbcglobal.net> References: <568BF525-2259-4688-BA0D-55A02E1499B5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <932B9043-C539-4F88-BFC9-C8C3536C4E64@charter.net> Hi, what problems are you having? On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > I am having some difficulties with Skype and VO. Any where I can go look for solutions? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jan 19 08:14:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:14:40 +0000 Subject: Apple Remote In-Reply-To: References: <64850DA7-016E-415E-9A8E-0110304CF6E9@gmail.com> <8B7BD1CD-168D-4EBE-A264-4BB96C560412@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <447A7D35-8101-4D01-93D7-A1B657F4A4FC@mac-access.net> Hello Courtney On 18 Jan 2011, at 21:01, Courtney Curran wrote: > ? Thanks so much, I really appreciate it. I am very sorry that I inadvertently mislead you by giving you inaccurate information. On the Server version of OSX the remote controls can be set from the security preference pane. But in regular client OSX I just can't find it at the moment and I must admit it's bugging me. I'll keep looking; and if I come across it I will let you know. Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Jan 19 08:22:44 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:22:44 +0000 Subject: Apple Remote In-Reply-To: <447A7D35-8101-4D01-93D7-A1B657F4A4FC@mac-access.net> References: <64850DA7-016E-415E-9A8E-0110304CF6E9@gmail.com> <8B7BD1CD-168D-4EBE-A264-4BB96C560412@mac-access.net> <447A7D35-8101-4D01-93D7-A1B657F4A4FC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0B38630D-2640-4EB3-A796-6A91588A1A69@mac-access.net> Hi Lynne, Courtney and others, Lynne, you are correct. If Courtney is using Snow Leopard, she will find what she is looking for in the "General" tab of "Security" in System Preferences. Take care :) James On 19 Jan 2011, at 08:14, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Courtney > > On 18 Jan 2011, at 21:01, Courtney Curran wrote: >> ? Thanks so much, I really appreciate it. > > I am very sorry that I inadvertently mislead you by giving you inaccurate information. On the Server version of OSX the remote controls can be set from the security preference pane. But in regular client OSX I just can't find it at the moment and I must admit it's bugging me. > > I'll keep looking; and if I come across it I will let you know. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jan 19 08:26:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:26:57 +0000 Subject: Apple Remote In-Reply-To: <0B38630D-2640-4EB3-A796-6A91588A1A69@mac-access.net> References: <64850DA7-016E-415E-9A8E-0110304CF6E9@gmail.com> <8B7BD1CD-168D-4EBE-A264-4BB96C560412@mac-access.net> <447A7D35-8101-4D01-93D7-A1B657F4A4FC@mac-access.net> <0B38630D-2640-4EB3-A796-6A91588A1A69@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6AA194E0-1866-4242-A69E-20F028BB1BC0@mac-access.net> Hello James On 19 Jan 2011, at 08:22, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Lynne, Courtney and others, > > Lynne, you are correct. If Courtney is using Snow Leopard, she will find what she is looking for in the "General" tab of "Security" in System Preferences. How the bleep bleep expletive did I miss that!? In the server version there is a specific tab marked "Remote". It's just one of many differences. Lynne From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Wed Jan 19 11:12:23 2011 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:12:23 +0000 Subject: Voice over and Adobe pdfs Message-ID: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Hello to all, I am sure this has been asked before - so apologies. I cannot get voice over to read pdf documents and cannot open them as text files because of the protection. Can anyone provide a work around? A cheap converter for the Mac would be fine, or is there a way to trick voice over into reading them. I have tried in preview but it only reds the first page and I would prefer the ability to re read passages easily as you can in text editor. Many thanks Ian From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jan 19 11:35:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:35:31 +0000 Subject: Voice over and Adobe pdfs In-Reply-To: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> References: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <68086AA1-1D3E-4741-8911-760EDDEAC5FE@mac-access.net> Hello Ian On 19 Jan 2011, at 11:12, Ian Harrison wrote: > ? I am sure this has been asked before - so apologies. > Not recently. > ? I cannot get voice over to read pdf documents and cannot open them as text files because of the protection. Can anyone provide a work around? > I don't think Preview handles protected documents; but you should have no problem with standard PDF documents. From memory; as I am not a fulltime VoiceOver user, you open the file and interact with the text area. Our view is set to continuous single page so that we don't have to keep clicking on the Next button. I think you might need something like Skim if you want to open protected documents, but I'm not sure on that last point. Lynne > A cheap converter for the Mac would be fine, or is there a way to trick voice over into reading them. I have tried in preview but it only reds the first page and I would prefer the ability to re read passages easily as you can in text editor. > > Many thanks > Ian > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Jan 19 11:35:16 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:35:16 +0000 Subject: Voice over and Adobe pdfs In-Reply-To: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> References: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Did you try a read all? VO+A? Have you tried interacting with the PDF so you can read line by line? Failing that, you could download Adobe's PDF reader (Acrobat) and use the built in screen reader. It works fine but not as flexible as VO. Chris On 19 Jan 2011, at 11:12, Ian Harrison wrote: > Hello to all, > > I am sure this has been asked before - so apologies. > > I cannot get voice over to read pdf documents and cannot open them as text files because of the protection. Can anyone provide a work around? > > A cheap converter for the Mac would be fine, or is there a way to trick voice over into reading them. I have tried in preview but it only reds the first page and I would prefer the ability to re read passages easily as you can in text editor. > > Many thanks > Ian > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Wed Jan 19 11:39:27 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:39:27 +0000 Subject: Object position in PELs? Message-ID: <203B1090-E978-4D5F-A5CF-500AB27CB700@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I am creating some hotkeys using Voxkeys. I need to simulate a mouse click on a button and to do this I need to know the position of that button relative to its containing window in PELs. VoiceOver can tell me the position of the mouse cursor and the VO cursor in millimetres. Is there any way to get VoiceOver to tell me object position and sized in PELs rather than millimetres? If not can I convert millimetres into PELs? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Jan 19 12:02:24 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 07:02:24 -0500 Subject: Can you rename a folder? In-Reply-To: <203B1090-E978-4D5F-A5CF-500AB27CB700@hopewell.org.uk> References: <203B1090-E978-4D5F-A5CF-500AB27CB700@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <89C7A07F-55A3-4BDE-AD04-2AAC616E3F23@gmail.com> I desperately need to know how this is done if there is a way. It isn't obvious as it is in Windows. The Mac renamed one of my folders and I have no idea how I did this. Thanks in advance. Kristeen On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I am creating some hotkeys using Voxkeys. I need to simulate a mouse click on a button and to do this I need to know the position of that button relative to its containing window in PELs. VoiceOver can tell me the position of the mouse cursor and the VO cursor in millimetres. Is there any way to get VoiceOver to tell me object position and sized in PELs rather than millimetres? If not can I convert millimetres into PELs? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jan 19 12:08:25 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:08:25 +0100 Subject: Can you rename a folder? In-Reply-To: <89C7A07F-55A3-4BDE-AD04-2AAC616E3F23@gmail.com> References: <203B1090-E978-4D5F-A5CF-500AB27CB700@hopewell.org.uk> <89C7A07F-55A3-4BDE-AD04-2AAC616E3F23@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, This is actually covered in the Mac help and is really easy to find, simply by searching for "renaming". To help you, though, just arrow to the item you want and hit return. As another note, your comment on renaming not being obvious in Mac OS X is amusing. I just wanted to point that out, not that this is a flaming war or anything. :) Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Wed Jan 19 12:09:15 2011 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:09:15 +0000 Subject: Voice over and Adobe pdfs In-Reply-To: References: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <986174F9-DF2E-4980-ADFD-B994BAF91744@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Hi, Yes, I have tried those options. I have adobe reader, but have been unable to find its own text to speech option. Can you point me to that in adobe's menus? Many thanks Ian On 19 January 2011, at 11:35, Chris Moore wrote: > Did you try a read all? VO+A? > Have you tried interacting with the PDF so you can read line by line? > > Failing that, you could download Adobe's PDF reader (Acrobat) and use the built in screen reader. It works fine but not as flexible as VO. > > Chris > On 19 Jan 2011, at 11:12, Ian Harrison wrote: > >> Hello to all, >> >> I am sure this has been asked before - so apologies. >> >> I cannot get voice over to read pdf documents and cannot open them as text files because of the protection. Can anyone provide a work around? >> >> A cheap converter for the Mac would be fine, or is there a way to trick voice over into reading them. I have tried in preview but it only reds the first page and I would prefer the ability to re read passages easily as you can in text editor. >> >> Many thanks >> Ian >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Wed Jan 19 12:10:00 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:10:00 +0000 Subject: Can you rename a folder? In-Reply-To: <89C7A07F-55A3-4BDE-AD04-2AAC616E3F23@gmail.com> References: <203B1090-E978-4D5F-A5CF-500AB27CB700@hopewell.org.uk> <89C7A07F-55A3-4BDE-AD04-2AAC616E3F23@gmail.com> Message-ID: Easy, command plus i will put you in to get information - just tab along to the edit box with the file or folder name in it and delete it then replace it with your choice then command plus w to exit get info and Robert is your mother's brother. hth G From glorious Devon, England. On 19 Jan 2011, at 12:02, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I desperately need to know how this is done if there is a way. It isn't obvious as it is in Windows. The Mac renamed one of my folders and I have no idea how I did this. > > Thanks in advance. > > Kristeen > > On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am creating some hotkeys using Voxkeys. I need to simulate a mouse click on a button and to do this I need to know the position of that button relative to its containing window in PELs. VoiceOver can tell me the position of the mouse cursor and the VO cursor in millimetres. Is there any way to get VoiceOver to tell me object position and sized in PELs rather than millimetres? If not can I convert millimetres into PELs? >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Wed Jan 19 12:33:06 2011 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:33:06 +0000 Subject: reading PDF in Preview question. In-Reply-To: <29D8454C-08CD-45F9-9B37-FFE2F45380F5@hopewell.org.uk> References: <29D8454C-08CD-45F9-9B37-FFE2F45380F5@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <1DB5DD12-5607-4B57-87D0-D9D5F6C5E4F4@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Hi, I also tried this. When I go to Preview services it says I have no services that apply. When I try to copy the text into text editor, the only word that comes up is "embedded" cheers Ian On 17 January 2011, at 11:45, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello Jim, > The way I get round this problem is to convert the PDF document into a RTF document and then use TextEdit to read it line by line. > When in Preview press Command+A to select all the text in the document and then go to the Preview menu bar and select Preview and then Services and then create new TextEdit WIndow containing selection. > You might have to press the tab key in Preview to get into the correct pane the Command+A to select the text of the entire document. I cannot remember precisely which Preview pane you need to be in to do this. > Good luck.... > > Paul Hopewell > On 15 Jan 2011, at 18:31, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> HI Gang: >> >> Is it possible to read a PDF document line by line with the cursor keys? If so, how so? >> >> Thanks all over the place gang. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Jan 19 12:34:24 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:34:24 +0000 Subject: Voice over and Adobe pdfs In-Reply-To: <986174F9-DF2E-4980-ADFD-B994BAF91744@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> References: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <986174F9-DF2E-4980-ADFD-B994BAF91744@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <93326DE6-7981-4C13-8F53-1E20A4AE5B6D@blueyonder.co.uk> Ian, Go to the Edit menu and move down to the Accessibility sub menu. and then select setup assistant. Choose the recommended settings for a screen reader. Now go to the View menu and then scroll down to the read out loud sub menu and choose from one of the options in there. Preview is ok, but I find it does not read table of contents etc as well as the Adobe Acrobat Reader. Chris On 19 Jan 2011, at 12:09, Ian Harrison wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, I have tried those options. I have adobe reader, but have been unable to find its own text to speech option. Can you point me to that in adobe's menus? > > Many thanks > Ian > On 19 January 2011, at 11:35, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Did you try a read all? VO+A? >> Have you tried interacting with the PDF so you can read line by line? >> >> Failing that, you could download Adobe's PDF reader (Acrobat) and use the built in screen reader. It works fine but not as flexible as VO. >> >> Chris >> On 19 Jan 2011, at 11:12, Ian Harrison wrote: >> >>> Hello to all, >>> >>> I am sure this has been asked before - so apologies. >>> >>> I cannot get voice over to read pdf documents and cannot open them as text files because of the protection. Can anyone provide a work around? >>> >>> A cheap converter for the Mac would be fine, or is there a way to trick voice over into reading them. I have tried in preview but it only reds the first page and I would prefer the ability to re read passages easily as you can in text editor. >>> >>> Many thanks >>> Ian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Wed Jan 19 13:33:35 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:33:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Object position in PELs? In-Reply-To: <203B1090-E978-4D5F-A5CF-500AB27CB700@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Paul, To have VoiceOver report positions in pixels, bring up VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8), navigate to "Verbosity", and VO-Space on "Announcements". ?On the Announcements tab, VO-Space on the "Speak size and position" pop up button and set it to "Pixels" instead of millimeters (or inches). ?Now when you use VO+F5+F5 or VO+F5+F5+F5 to read off the position of the mouse cursor, it will be announced in screen pixels, either with respect to the full screen (VO+F5+F5), or with respect to the current window (VO+F5+F5+F5), while VO+F5 with the single F5 reports the name of the button, control element, etc. that is currently under the mouse.? HTH. ?Cheers, Esther P.S. Funny you should ask this; I just recently had to check this since it's in my posted response to Nic in the thread on unsubscribing from MobileMe. ?It's how you check the number of pixels to move so you can uncheck the check box for renewing your subscription (since VoiceOver doesn't move to this checkbox automatically). Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello, I am creating some hotkeys using Voxkeys. I need to simulate a mouse click on a button and to do this I need to know the position of that button relative to its containing window in PELs. VoiceOver can tell me the position of the mouse cursor and the VO cursor in millimetres. Is there any way to get VoiceOver to tell me object position and sized in PELs rather than millimetres? If not can I convert millimetres into PELs? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Jan 19 13:39:48 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:39:48 +0000 Subject: Can you rename a folder? In-Reply-To: <89C7A07F-55A3-4BDE-AD04-2AAC616E3F23@gmail.com> References: <203B1090-E978-4D5F-A5CF-500AB27CB700@hopewell.org.uk> <89C7A07F-55A3-4BDE-AD04-2AAC616E3F23@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8FBE7583-2B00-49A5-9B3C-91DE0D9CF520@mac-access.net> Hello Kirsteen Just press enter on the folder name and you'll be given the option to type a new name. Gordon On 19 Jan 2011, at 12:02, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I desperately need to know how this is done if there is a way. It isn't obvious as it is in Windows. The Mac renamed one of my folders and I have no idea how I did this. > > Thanks in advance. > > Kristeen > > On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am creating some hotkeys using Voxkeys. I need to simulate a mouse click on a button and to do this I need to know the position of that button relative to its containing window in PELs. VoiceOver can tell me the position of the mouse cursor and the VO cursor in millimetres. Is there any way to get VoiceOver to tell me object position and sized in PELs rather than millimetres? If not can I convert millimetres into PELs? >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Jan 19 12:48:40 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 07:48:40 -0500 Subject: Can you rename a folder? In-Reply-To: References: <203B1090-E978-4D5F-A5CF-500AB27CB700@hopewell.org.uk> <89C7A07F-55A3-4BDE-AD04-2AAC616E3F23@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm sorry but I meant that I didn't see it in the command+shift+m menu, which is where I looked and which is where it would be in Windows. I'm new to the Mac and I didn't look in the help because so often in Microsoft help, you don't find what you're looking for that I'm not trained to look there. If I can give you all some laughter, have at it. Kristeen On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello, > > This is actually covered in the Mac help and is really easy to find, simply by searching for "renaming". > > To help you, though, just arrow to the item you want and hit return. > > As another note, your comment on renaming not being obvious in Mac OS X is amusing. I just wanted to point that out, not that this is a flaming war or anything. :) > > Regards, > Nic > GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Wed Jan 19 14:45:33 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:45:33 +0000 Subject: Object position in PELs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8660D69B-58E0-4577-B134-F036A73F8F4C@hopewell.org.uk> Hello Esther, Many thanks for that. I assumed the position in millimetres or inches or piccells must be a system preferences option so looked all over them in vain. I never thought it might be a VoiceOver option. As a related question I am trying to write a Voxkeys shortcut to drive the BBC iPlayer . To do this I need to define a QUickeys shortcut to move the mouse to the desired inaccessible button and to press that button. So I need to find the offset of the desired button in piccels. If I got sighted help to move a real mouse to that button would VO+F5 correctly report the mouse position even though the mouse is positioned on an item which VO cannot see? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell On 19 Jan 2011, at 13:33, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > To have VoiceOver report positions in pixels, bring up VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8), navigate to "Verbosity", and VO-Space on "Announcements". On the Announcements tab, VO-Space on the "Speak size and position" pop up button and set it to "Pixels" instead of millimeters (or inches). Now when you use VO+F5+F5 or VO+F5+F5+F5 to read off the position of the mouse cursor, it will be announced in screen pixels, either with respect to the full screen (VO+F5+F5), or with respect to the current window (VO+F5+F5+F5), while VO+F5 with the single F5 reports the name of the button, control element, etc. that is currently under the mouse. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > P.S. Funny you should ask this; I just recently had to check this since it's in my posted response to Nic in the thread on unsubscribing from MobileMe. It's how you check the number of pixels to move so you can uncheck the check box for renewing your subscription (since VoiceOver doesn't move to this checkbox automatically). > > Paul Hopewell wrote: > > Hello, I am creating some hotkeys using Voxkeys. I need to simulate a mouse click on a button and to do this I need to know the position of that button relative to its containing window in PELs. VoiceOver can tell me the position of the mouse cursor and the VO cursor in millimetres. Is there any way to get VoiceOver to tell me object position and sized in PELs rather than millimetres? If not can I convert millimetres into PELs? Many thanks. > Paul Hopewell > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Jan 19 14:51:16 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:51:16 -0500 Subject: Can you rename a folder? In-Reply-To: <8FBE7583-2B00-49A5-9B3C-91DE0D9CF520@mac-access.net> References: <203B1090-E978-4D5F-A5CF-500AB27CB700@hopewell.org.uk> <89C7A07F-55A3-4BDE-AD04-2AAC616E3F23@gmail.com> <8FBE7583-2B00-49A5-9B3C-91DE0D9CF520@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4CDE4D58-D38D-48F4-846B-EB993CD87BA5@gmail.com> I can't believe how easy that is! That's why I couldn't get it it makes way too much sense. I worked for Microsoft for 3 years and was an escalation engineer for the Windows operating systems. I'm used to things being mysterious and convoluted. Sorry for my stupidity. Kristeen On Jan 19, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Kristeen > > Just press enter on the folder name and you'll be given the option to type a new name. > > Gordon > > On 19 Jan 2011, at 12:02, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> I desperately need to know how this is done if there is a way. It isn't obvious as it is in Windows. The Mac renamed one of my folders and I have no idea how I did this. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Kristeen >> >> On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I am creating some hotkeys using Voxkeys. I need to simulate a mouse click on a button and to do this I need to know the position of that button relative to its containing window in PELs. VoiceOver can tell me the position of the mouse cursor and the VO cursor in millimetres. Is there any way to get VoiceOver to tell me object position and sized in PELs rather than millimetres? If not can I convert millimetres into PELs? >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jan 19 14:59:17 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:59:17 +0100 Subject: Can you rename a folder? In-Reply-To: <4CDE4D58-D38D-48F4-846B-EB993CD87BA5@gmail.com> References: <203B1090-E978-4D5F-A5CF-500AB27CB700@hopewell.org.uk> <89C7A07F-55A3-4BDE-AD04-2AAC616E3F23@gmail.com> <8FBE7583-2B00-49A5-9B3C-91DE0D9CF520@mac-access.net> <4CDE4D58-D38D-48F4-846B-EB993CD87BA5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2B0E3014-CFAB-4C4F-B7F2-8F7499AA3319@gmail.com> Hello Kristeen I didn't say that comment to laugh at you, but I was genuinely curious to your reason for that comment. Hopefully, though, you'll get on with the Mac and learn to like it. :) I wish you all the best, and just ask if you feel you can't find the answer. Even if it is easy to find it, you're always welcome to ask it anyway. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jan 19 15:11:18 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:11:18 +0000 Subject: Can you rename a folder? In-Reply-To: References: <203B1090-E978-4D5F-A5CF-500AB27CB700@hopewell.org.uk> <89C7A07F-55A3-4BDE-AD04-2AAC616E3F23@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0183A593-CA0D-4698-A9A8-0ECD50DA77FD@mac-access.net> Hello Kristeen. On 19 Jan 2011, at 12:48, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > ? I'm sorry but I meant that I didn't see it in the command+shift+m menu, which is where I looked and which is where it would be in Windows. I'm new to the Mac and I didn't look in the help because so often in Microsoft help, you don't find what you're looking for that I'm not trained to look there. If I can give you all some laughter, have at it. > Just one little piece of advice if I may, and please understand that I mean this in the nicest possible way. I suggest you forget about how Windows works when using the Mac, because there are a lot of differences. Yes; there are some similarities as well. But the object-orientated concept of VoiceOver is very different to what you are probably used too with Windows-based readers and the OS itself. You did nothing wrong Kristeen, and no apology is necessary on your part. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jan 19 15:17:44 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:17:44 +0000 Subject: Can you rename a folder? In-Reply-To: <4CDE4D58-D38D-48F4-846B-EB993CD87BA5@gmail.com> References: <203B1090-E978-4D5F-A5CF-500AB27CB700@hopewell.org.uk> <89C7A07F-55A3-4BDE-AD04-2AAC616E3F23@gmail.com> <8FBE7583-2B00-49A5-9B3C-91DE0D9CF520@mac-access.net> <4CDE4D58-D38D-48F4-846B-EB993CD87BA5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0BA6D35B-D61D-4CCA-B239-B69A01EBC110@mac-access.net> Hello Kristeen On 19 Jan 2011, at 14:51, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > ? I can't believe how easy that is! That's why I couldn't get it it makes way too much sense. > That's OSX for you! :) > ? I worked for Microsoft for 3 years and was an escalation engineer for the Windows operating systems. I'm used to things being mysterious and convoluted. Sorry for my stupidity. > No, please don't apologise. As we tell you when you join this tgroup, no question is too basic. Please don't think of it as stupidity in any way at all. Lynne From moriond at mac.com Wed Jan 19 15:56:28 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:56:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Object position in PELs? In-Reply-To: <8660D69B-58E0-4577-B134-F036A73F8F4C@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <6100b3f0-f595-4f73-df1a-adba42e28b2c@me.com> Hi Paul, You might want to take a look at this Mouse Tools site: http://www.hamsoftengineering.com/codeSharing/MouseTools/MouseTools.html They have sample scripts for their downloadable software to measure mouse screen location and perform clicks, and this is a way to get to icons in the status bar menu that VoiceOver doesn't navigate ?to (DropBox, TextExpander, ExpanDrive, etc.) and click them. ?You do need to get sighted assistance for a one-time operation to place the mouse cursor at the position. ?In answer to your question, yes, you can have VoiceOver read off the position of the mouse cursor where sighted help positions the mouse for you. ?I don't remember whether you need specific tracking options on, or to enable Mouse Keys under Universal Access (my regular laptop is not here, and I'm using an old 12" PowerBook G4 with old operating system to type this, so I can't check), but yes, you can read off cursor position with VoiceOver if someone moves the cursor to a specific position. I think the Mouse Tools package linked above will also let you make those measurements (with sighted help). ?The only limitation is that these are absolute screen pixel measurements, which is OK for items on the status menu bar, or if you never shift the position of open windows. ?It would really be nice if you could move your cursor and click relative to your current position. ?I suppose you might be able to script that. Cheers, Esther On Jan 19, 2011, at 04:45 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello Esther, Many thanks for that. I assumed the position in millimetres or inches or piccells must be a system preferences option so looked all over them in vain. I never thought it might be a VoiceOver option. As a related question I am trying to write a Voxkeys shortcut to drive the BBC iPlayer . To do this I need to define a QUickeys shortcut to move the mouse to the desired inaccessible button and to press that button. So I need to find the offset of the desired button in piccels. If I got sighted help to move a real mouse to that button would VO+F5 correctly report the mouse position even though the mouse is positioned on an item which VO cannot see? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell On 19 Jan 2011, at 13:33, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > To have VoiceOver report positions in pixels, bring up VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8), navigate to "Verbosity", and VO-Space on "Announcements". On the Announcements tab, VO-Space on the "Speak size and position" pop up button and set it to "Pixels" instead of millimeters (or inches). Now when you use VO+F5+F5 or VO+F5+F5+F5 to read off the position of the mouse cursor, it will be announced in screen pixels, either with respect to the full screen (VO+F5+F5), or with respect to the current window (VO+F5+F5+F5), while VO+F5 with the single F5 reports the name of the button, control element, etc. that is currently under the mouse. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > P.S. Funny you should ask this; I just recently had to check this since it's in my posted response to Nic in the thread on unsubscribing from MobileMe. It's how you check the number of pixels to move so you can uncheck the check box for renewing your subscription (since VoiceOver doesn't move to this checkbox automatically). > > Paul Hopewell wrote: > > Hello, I am creating some hotkeys using Voxkeys. I need to simulate a mouse click on a button and to do this I need to know the position of that button relative to its containing window in PELs. VoiceOver can tell me the position of the mouse cursor and the VO cursor in millimetres. Is there any way to get VoiceOver to tell me object position and sized in PELs rather than millimetres? If not can I convert millimetres into PELs? Many thanks. > Paul Hopewell From moriond at mac.com Wed Jan 19 16:44:50 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:44:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: reading PDF in Preview question. In-Reply-To: <1DB5DD12-5607-4B57-87D0-D9D5F6C5E4F4@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <2a89b29d-7f27-6321-c876-d5b63e97f7e8@me.com> Hi Ian, Jim, Paul, and Others, In Snow Leopard, you'll need to configure the Services Menu options in order to show the "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" option. ?In Leopard, this would just appear if you moved to the Services submenu. ?This Service menu option is much neater than doing copy and paste -- it uses far less resources and memory, and if your default preference is to open TextEdit in plain text format, it will drop any images when it opens the window. ?I used to use this on problematic web sites, in earlier times when Safari didn't always expose a full page -- I'd just command-A to select all and then send my selection to TextEdit. This will work for any app, and you can select any portion of text. ?You can also assign a shortcut to use to send your selection to TextEdit. ?Ian, I don't have my MacBook here, so I'll point you to my draft SimpleNote notes on how to enable the "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" option in your Services menu, and how (if you like) you can create a shortcut for this. ?There may be errors, because I can't check this. (My regular MacBook is in at work, and I'm using my first Mac to send this email -- a PowerBook that dates from when VoiceOver was first released -- and it's not running Snow Leopard). Take a look at: https://simple-note.appspot.com/publish/df5dc (This may not stay around long term -- it's a pointer to my Simplenote draft notes on how to setup the Services menu option for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection", and optionally, make a shortcut for this.) The other reason I send to TextEdit is that TextEdit works very well for reading equation symbols, or non-Latin characters (other languages that don't use a Roman alphabet). HTH. ?Cheers, Esther On Jan 19, 2011, at 02:33 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: Hi, I also tried this. When I go to Preview services it says I have no services that apply. When I try to copy the text into text editor, the only word that comes up is "embedded" cheers Ian On 17 January 2011, at 11:45, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello Jim, > The way I get round this problem is to convert the PDF document into a RTF document and then use TextEdit to read it line by line. > When in Preview press Command+A to select all the text in the document and then go to the Preview menu bar and select Preview and then Services and then create new TextEdit WIndow containing selection. > You might have to press the tab key in Preview to get into the correct pane the Command+A to select the text of the entire document. I cannot remember precisely which Preview pane you need to be in to do this. > Good luck.... > > Paul Hopewell > On 15 Jan 2011, at 18:31, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> HI Gang: >> >> Is it possible to read a PDF document line by line with the cursor keys? If so, how so? >> >> Thanks all over the place gang. >> >>? From billd at insightbb.com Wed Jan 19 17:24:16 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:24:16 -0500 Subject: two questions Message-ID: Hello, first of all, I have atached a external desk mike to my computer. when I press the button to mute it isn't muting. can anyone tell me what i might look for to solve this problem? Second, i was in I Tunes, i went to the radio stations button. after that i didn't accomplish any thing. how do I bring up a radio station in I Tunes and get it to play. is there a list of stations and you have to chose one or can you type in the station you want. Thank you for the information in advance. Bill Deatherage From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Jan 19 18:37:02 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:37:02 +0000 Subject: Apple Remote In-Reply-To: <6AA194E0-1866-4242-A69E-20F028BB1BC0@mac-access.net> References: <64850DA7-016E-415E-9A8E-0110304CF6E9@gmail.com> <8B7BD1CD-168D-4EBE-A264-4BB96C560412@mac-access.net> <447A7D35-8101-4D01-93D7-A1B657F4A4FC@mac-access.net> <0B38630D-2640-4EB3-A796-6A91588A1A69@mac-access.net> <6AA194E0-1866-4242-A69E-20F028BB1BC0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <710018BF-CB24-474F-9803-D6F8552FCC63@mac-access.net> No problem :), but I think it helps if we're using the same version lol :) just kidding. On 19 Jan 2011, at 08:26, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > On 19 Jan 2011, at 08:22, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Lynne, Courtney and others, >> >> Lynne, you are correct. If Courtney is using Snow Leopard, she will find what she is looking for in the "General" tab of "Security" in System Preferences. > > How the bleep bleep expletive did I miss that!? In the server version there is a specific tab marked "Remote". It's just one of many differences. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jan 19 21:55:07 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:55:07 -0600 Subject: unzipping files with a password In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <139F7130-5475-4A8D-BB67-AAE8B78FA34C@softcon.com> Hello Bill and all. The finder ( for some reason) doesn't appear to support passworded zip files, but the terminal does. When you're unzipping your bookshare file, simply use the -P password (where password is your bookshare password) and the files will be unzipped as normal. I am not sure if there's a way to get zip to prompt you for the password or not, since typing it on the command-line isn't exactly the most secure way to retrieve your files. :) But, at any rate, you don't need to purchase any extra programs, you can unzip the bookshare files just fine using your mac, only you'll need to do it at the terminal prompt. Hope this helps. (I'd like to take this opportunity to remind folks about the discount on take control books currently in force for members of this list, especially since they have a take control of terminal in osx book among their offerings. You can email myself, or support at mac-access.net with any orders you'd like to place for any of the take control books. Hope this helps. From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jan 19 22:00:01 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:00:01 -0600 Subject: Unzipping password protected files In-Reply-To: <035EF4EB-C457-4666-9182-8DB47B3B9029@me.com> References: <035EF4EB-C457-4666-9182-8DB47B3B9029@me.com> Message-ID: <01BE8BA6-431E-4811-A74A-BE7BA70D6D54@softcon.com> Just a note here. It is not necessary to use sudo when running the unzip program. Sudo is really something that shouldn't be used unless it's absolutely necessary, as you could screw up your computer beyond repair if used incorrectly. The reason you shouldn't do this, is because sudo runs a command as a root user, and that's bad, because root has permission to do *anything* on your machine, including deleting system-level files that a normal user can't affect. So, ignore the sudo part of the instructions, but otherwise, it's all fine. Hope this helps. From weavermicha at googlemail.com Wed Jan 19 22:03:39 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:03:39 +0000 Subject: mac not responding Message-ID: <4d375f98.0607cc0a.581c.5b1b@mx.google.com> i have just got back from my holiday today after two weeks. i started my macbook pro and got speech as usual. however speech stopped responding and none of the voiceover keystrokes responded. it seemed like i just lost speech and even pressing command f5 didn't even work. i powered off the mac using the power button with me not having speech, have tried rebooting several times and i am now getting no speech at all and i am not even hearing the mac sound that plays at the beginning when the machine is switched on. i hope i am not going to have to re-install the operating system. i hear the sound of the drive at the beginning when i power on. i hope i have not screwed up the system and have to do a complete reinstall. what i was hoping to do was to update the operating system on the mac and connect my i-phone which i have lost speech on and hitting the home button two or 3 times on the phone where the physical home button is didn't start speech so i was hoping to have used my macbook to restart the speech on the phone which got stopped while dad was trying to use my camera which it seemed to switch speech off when he passed me back the phone to unlock it to get it to the camera app. i tried looking for an installation guide for voiceover users for the mac in case i have to do a re-install of my operating system on the pro only i can't seem to find one when i do a search for installing mac os with voiceover etc. i tried subscribing to the mac access podcast only none of the methods to get the podcasts seems to work and the only episode i can get hold of using a web browser is episode one. the supported address for podcast apps gives me an eror message about the address not being recognised either by gpodder i think it is under linux or rhythmbox when i type in the url for the feed. From rawoolgrove at btinternet.com Wed Jan 19 22:24:04 2011 From: rawoolgrove at btinternet.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:24:04 -0000 Subject: mac not responding References: <4d375f98.0607cc0a.581c.5b1b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Michael, This may sound really silly but if you are getting no sound from the speakers at all then have you tried upping the volume? I think it is F12 and after a few presses it should make that popping sound as you press it and if VO is working it should say louder. If not that then have you got a lead in the earphone socket? The last thing I can think of is an internal problem which is beyond me. HTH Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael weaver" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:03 PM Subject: mac not responding >i have just got back from my holiday today after two weeks. > i started my macbook pro and got speech as usual. > however speech stopped responding and none of the voiceover keystrokes > responded. > it seemed like i just lost speech and even pressing command f5 didn't even > work. > i powered off the mac using the power button with me not having speech, > have tried rebooting several times and i am now getting no speech at all > and i am not even hearing the mac sound that plays at the beginning when > the machine is switched on. > i hope i am not going to have to re-install the operating system. > i hear the sound of the drive at the beginning when i power on. > i hope i have not screwed up the system and have to do a complete > reinstall. > what i was hoping to do was to update the operating system on the mac and > connect my i-phone which i have lost speech on and hitting the home button > two or 3 times on the phone where the physical home button is didn't start > speech so i was hoping to have used my macbook to restart the speech on > the phone which got stopped while dad was trying to use my camera which it > seemed to switch speech off when he passed me back the phone to unlock it > to get it to the camera app. > i tried looking for an installation guide for voiceover users for the mac > in case i have to do a re-install of my operating system on the pro only i > can't seem to find one when i do a search for installing mac os with > voiceover etc. > i tried subscribing to the mac access podcast only none of the methods to > get the podcasts seems to work and the only episode i can get hold of > using a web browser is episode one. > the supported address for podcast apps gives me an eror message about the > address not being recognised either by gpodder i think it is under linux > or rhythmbox when i type in the url for the feed. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From rawoolgrove at btinternet.com Wed Jan 19 22:26:02 2011 From: rawoolgrove at btinternet.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:26:02 -0000 Subject: mac not responding References: <4d375f98.0607cc0a.581c.5b1b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Michael, I'm not sure about this one but I believe there is a mute button which may have inadvertently been pressed but I'm not sure what the keystroke is, if there is one. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael weaver" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:03 PM Subject: mac not responding >i have just got back from my holiday today after two weeks. > i started my macbook pro and got speech as usual. > however speech stopped responding and none of the voiceover keystrokes > responded. > it seemed like i just lost speech and even pressing command f5 didn't even > work. > i powered off the mac using the power button with me not having speech, > have tried rebooting several times and i am now getting no speech at all > and i am not even hearing the mac sound that plays at the beginning when > the machine is switched on. > i hope i am not going to have to re-install the operating system. > i hear the sound of the drive at the beginning when i power on. > i hope i have not screwed up the system and have to do a complete > reinstall. > what i was hoping to do was to update the operating system on the mac and > connect my i-phone which i have lost speech on and hitting the home button > two or 3 times on the phone where the physical home button is didn't start > speech so i was hoping to have used my macbook to restart the speech on > the phone which got stopped while dad was trying to use my camera which it > seemed to switch speech off when he passed me back the phone to unlock it > to get it to the camera app. > i tried looking for an installation guide for voiceover users for the mac > in case i have to do a re-install of my operating system on the pro only i > can't seem to find one when i do a search for installing mac os with > voiceover etc. > i tried subscribing to the mac access podcast only none of the methods to > get the podcasts seems to work and the only episode i can get hold of > using a web browser is episode one. > the supported address for podcast apps gives me an eror message about the > address not being recognised either by gpodder i think it is under linux > or rhythmbox when i type in the url for the feed. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Jan 19 22:28:29 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 23:28:29 +0100 Subject: mac not responding In-Reply-To: <4d375f98.0607cc0a.581c.5b1b@mx.google.com> References: <4d375f98.0607cc0a.581c.5b1b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello Micheal, Have you by any chance press F10 or FN-F10 by accident? that would mute everything. Alternatively, when your machine is shut down, try holding down Command-Option-P-R (yes, all four keys at once), and with them held down, pressing the Power button. Keep them held down until youve heard the start up chime four times. Cheers, Anne On 19 Jan 2011, at 23:03, michael weaver wrote: > i have just got back from my holiday today after two weeks. > i started my macbook pro and got speech as usual. > however speech stopped responding and none of the voiceover keystrokes responded. > it seemed like i just lost speech and even pressing command f5 didn't even work. > i powered off the mac using the power button with me not having speech, have tried rebooting several times and i am now getting no speech at all and i am not even hearing the mac sound that plays at the beginning when the machine is switched on. > i hope i am not going to have to re-install the operating system. > i hear the sound of the drive at the beginning when i power on. > i hope i have not screwed up the system and have to do a complete reinstall. > what i was hoping to do was to update the operating system on the mac and connect my i-phone which i have lost speech on and hitting the home button two or 3 times on the phone where the physical home button is didn't start speech so i was hoping to have used my macbook to restart the speech on the phone which got stopped while dad was trying to use my camera which it seemed to switch speech off when he passed me back the phone to unlock it to get it to the camera app. > i tried looking for an installation guide for voiceover users for the mac in case i have to do a re-install of my operating system on the pro only i can't seem to find one when i do a search for installing mac os with voiceover etc. > i tried subscribing to the mac access podcast only none of the methods to get the podcasts seems to work and the only episode i can get hold of using a web browser is episode one. > the supported address for podcast apps gives me an eror message about the address not being recognised either by gpodder i think it is under linux or rhythmbox when i type in the url for the feed. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Wed Jan 19 22:48:43 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:48:43 +0000 Subject: mac not responding In-Reply-To: References: <4d375f98.0607cc0a.581c.5b1b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <28AC7BA5-11C8-40DA-96DC-1CF9972C69FE@googlemail.com> Hi there Roger and Michael, The keystroke for mute is F10. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 19 Jan 2011, at 22:26, Roger Woolgrove wrote: > Michael, > > I'm not sure about this one but I believe there is a mute button which may have inadvertently been pressed but I'm not sure what the keystroke is, if there is one. > > Roger > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael weaver" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:03 PM > Subject: mac not responding > > >> i have just got back from my holiday today after two weeks. >> i started my macbook pro and got speech as usual. >> however speech stopped responding and none of the voiceover keystrokes responded. >> it seemed like i just lost speech and even pressing command f5 didn't even work. >> i powered off the mac using the power button with me not having speech, have tried rebooting several times and i am now getting no speech at all and i am not even hearing the mac sound that plays at the beginning when the machine is switched on. >> i hope i am not going to have to re-install the operating system. >> i hear the sound of the drive at the beginning when i power on. >> i hope i have not screwed up the system and have to do a complete reinstall. >> what i was hoping to do was to update the operating system on the mac and connect my i-phone which i have lost speech on and hitting the home button two or 3 times on the phone where the physical home button is didn't start speech so i was hoping to have used my macbook to restart the speech on the phone which got stopped while dad was trying to use my camera which it seemed to switch speech off when he passed me back the phone to unlock it to get it to the camera app. >> i tried looking for an installation guide for voiceover users for the mac in case i have to do a re-install of my operating system on the pro only i can't seem to find one when i do a search for installing mac os with voiceover etc. >> i tried subscribing to the mac access podcast only none of the methods to get the podcasts seems to work and the only episode i can get hold of using a web browser is episode one. >> the supported address for podcast apps gives me an eror message about the address not being recognised either by gpodder i think it is under linux or rhythmbox when i type in the url for the feed. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From edworrell at bresnan.net Wed Jan 19 22:42:55 2011 From: edworrell at bresnan.net (Ed Worrell) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:42:55 -0700 Subject: new mac user Message-ID: <73A08E26-57F6-4389-83C5-DA3D1CF30DB3@bresnan.net> Hi my name is Ed Worrell, I just got a new macbook pro not long ago and I was having trouble finding accessible computer games for the mac. I had a windows machine running a hacked version of Jaws on it before. I found a bunch of games but having some issues on the mac side of things. Please help. Thanks in advance ED From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jan 19 23:11:23 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:11:23 -0600 Subject: new mac user In-Reply-To: <73A08E26-57F6-4389-83C5-DA3D1CF30DB3@bresnan.net> References: <73A08E26-57F6-4389-83C5-DA3D1CF30DB3@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <2C5E179E-0162-4226-9736-37B75B009959@softcon.com> Depending on what kind of games you're hunting for, you can checkout my mac pages at http://www.softcon.com/mac/ and click on games. You'll find some there that I ported from other operating systems, though nothing specific to mac, sound, or the like. There is a sample game I wrote using sfml to show developers how easy it would be to produce cross-platform accessible games, (since they complaining mac had too small of a user base, and I wanted to show they could support windows, linux, and osx with no additional coding) It's located at http://www.thesiegelsnest.us/mac/ where you'll find my port of chopper patrol. It's not meant to be a full-blown game, but it does work, and you can play it just fine (after you install the sfml libraries, docs explain how) and there's another game I was working on (but haven't touched in months) that is an rpg type thing, but nobody seemed interested in helping with ideas, feedback, bug reports, or the like, so it's just sat there and will likely continue to do so, but it's there if you really want to mess with it. Hope this helps, if you want anything ele, dro a lie here, and I'm sure somebody can answer your questions. From weavermicha at googlemail.com Wed Jan 19 23:51:40 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 23:51:40 +0000 Subject: restoring speech on the i-phone Message-ID: <4d3778e8.1252d80a.26a0.7237@mx.google.com> how do i restore the speech on my i-phone using i-tunes on the mac? pressing the home button two or three times didn't restore speech when i tried this. the speech inadvertently got switched off while i was trying to talk my father through operating the camera and for some reason i couldn't get him to go through the settings tab to re-inable the speech. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 00:03:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:03:08 -0800 Subject: Apple support firm drops case against customer Message-ID: here is a follow up to the suit this company filed against a consumer. read more: http://bit.ly/ghN8u0 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 00:07:23 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:07:23 -0800 Subject: AT&T Simplifying Texting Plans, Enlisting Best Buy in Battle Against Verizon iPhone Message-ID: <3D95A9CF-F608-4E7F-9E39-3D2CE7D2924B@gmail.com> Will this hurt at&t at all? read more: http://bit.ly/ghcqBJ From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 00:11:16 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:11:16 -0800 Subject: Starbucks Mobile Payments for iPhone and iPod Touch Now Available Nationwide Message-ID: <16AEE707-E674-45A7-B27F-3C577A614CC3@gmail.com> This sounds way too cool. read more: http://bit.ly/hA6rZ1 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 00:20:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:20:53 -0800 Subject: Mass deploying Adobe Flash Player updates Message-ID: http://bit.ly/gRVd5D If you are in a situation where you have a large number of Macintosh computers at your work and you need to push out a Flash update to all your clients it can be tedious. The Adobe installers are filled with fluff and GUI options that do not make it easy to mass deploy. Depending on what enterprise solutions you use, this method should be applicable to most if not all of them. Casper, Absolute, Munki, or even ARD Admin can most likely use this method. I've tested this in Casper and it does work for me. Simply download the latest Flash Player to your Mac. Right click on the Adobe Installer and view the Package Contents. From there navigate to the Resources folder. Inside there you will see an Adobe Flash Player.pkg file you can simply drag and drop into your enterprise ... From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 20 00:38:49 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:38:49 -0600 Subject: Skype In-Reply-To: <932B9043-C539-4F88-BFC9-C8C3536C4E64@charter.net> References: <568BF525-2259-4688-BA0D-55A02E1499B5@sbcglobal.net> <932B9043-C539-4F88-BFC9-C8C3536C4E64@charter.net> Message-ID: <4A63D9F7-3C89-41A0-95F1-4A5845615FAF@sbcglobal.net> I need some general tips and VoiceOver commands. thanks in advance. On Jan 18, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Hi, what problems are you having? > On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > >> I am having some difficulties with Skype and VO. Any where I can go look for solutions? >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 01:03:23 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:03:23 -0800 Subject: Skype In-Reply-To: <4A63D9F7-3C89-41A0-95F1-4A5845615FAF@sbcglobal.net> References: <568BF525-2259-4688-BA0D-55A02E1499B5@sbcglobal.net> <932B9043-C539-4F88-BFC9-C8C3536C4E64@charter.net> <4A63D9F7-3C89-41A0-95F1-4A5845615FAF@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <30651A72-B659-4791-B34F-43CB46E64DE4@gmail.com> Hello. I did a mini podcast on skype and how to use it. I did not go over making a call but all you do there i find the contact in the table and hit vo shift m and choose call. see my podcast at http://marrie.podbean.com and there might be some at http://blindcooltech.com. S On Jan 19, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > I need some general tips and VoiceOver commands. thanks in advance. > On Jan 18, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Hi, what problems are you having? >> On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: >> >>> I am having some difficulties with Skype and VO. Any where I can go look for solutions? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Thu Jan 20 01:22:02 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:22:02 +0000 Subject: i-phone now working again Message-ID: <4d378e16.cdace30a.0407.ffffaca2@mx.google.com> i just plugged my i-phone into a usb port on my macbook and nothing had to be done to restore my lost speech. maybe when i was on holiday i should have tried plugging my i-phone into a ac socket and may have got the same response to the problem i had and i could have made more use of my phone than i did as i only sent an email to a couple of people. hopefully my contact problem where i couldn't add a contact to a text message from my contacts list has been fixed as well by this kind of reset if it has fixed everything else that froze. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 02:05:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:05:18 -0800 Subject: Apple Releases Second Beta of iOS 4.3 to Developers Message-ID: Apple today issued a second beta version of iOS 4.3 to registered developers, marking a quick turnaround since the initial beta version was seeded one week ago. read more: http://bit.ly/gBzPak From n0oxy at charter.net Thu Jan 20 02:28:35 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:28:35 -0600 Subject: Voice over and Adobe pdfs In-Reply-To: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> References: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Can you open them in preview? If they're protected, that may give you problems, not sure, but preview is great for reading pdf files. On Jan 19, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: > Hello to all, > > I am sure this has been asked before - so apologies. > > I cannot get voice over to read pdf documents and cannot open them as text files because of the protection. Can anyone provide a work around? > > A cheap converter for the Mac would be fine, or is there a way to trick voice over into reading them. I have tried in preview but it only reds the first page and I would prefer the ability to re read passages easily as you can in text editor. > > Many thanks > Ian > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Thu Jan 20 02:34:15 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:34:15 -0600 Subject: unzipping files with a password In-Reply-To: <139F7130-5475-4A8D-BB67-AAE8B78FA34C@softcon.com> References: <139F7130-5475-4A8D-BB67-AAE8B78FA34C@softcon.com> Message-ID: <4781F420-EC56-4613-BB5A-7A5C0F81ED9D@charter.net> There's also a free app that will do this, it's called the unarchiver. I'm not sure why finder doesn't handle this either. On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Hello Bill and all. > The finder ( for some reason) doesn't appear to support passworded zip files, but the terminal does. > When you're unzipping your bookshare file, simply use the -P password (where password is your bookshare password) and the files will be unzipped as normal. > I am not sure if there's a way to get zip to prompt you for the password or not, since typing it on the command-line isn't exactly the most secure way to retrieve your files. :) > But, at any rate, you don't need to purchase any extra programs, you can unzip the bookshare files just fine using your mac, only you'll need to do it at the terminal prompt. > Hope this helps. > (I'd like to take this opportunity to remind folks about the discount on take control books currently in force for members of this list, especially since they have a take control of terminal in osx book among their offerings. > You can email myself, or support at mac-access.net with any orders you'd like to place for any of the take control books. > Hope this helps. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Thu Jan 20 03:53:00 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:53:00 -0500 Subject: unzipping files with a password In-Reply-To: <139F7130-5475-4A8D-BB67-AAE8B78FA34C@softcon.com> References: <139F7130-5475-4A8D-BB67-AAE8B78FA34C@softcon.com> Message-ID: Hello, Thanks for the information. Bill deatherage On Jan 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Hello Bill and all. > The finder ( for some reason) doesn't appear to support passworded zip files, but the terminal does. > When you're unzipping your bookshare file, simply use the -P password (where password is your bookshare password) and the files will be unzipped as normal. > I am not sure if there's a way to get zip to prompt you for the password or not, since typing it on the command-line isn't exactly the most secure way to retrieve your files. :) > But, at any rate, you don't need to purchase any extra programs, you can unzip the bookshare files just fine using your mac, only you'll need to do it at the terminal prompt. > Hope this helps. > (I'd like to take this opportunity to remind folks about the discount on take control books currently in force for members of this list, especially since they have a take control of terminal in osx book among their offerings. > You can email myself, or support at mac-access.net with any orders you'd like to place for any of the take control books. > Hope this helps. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Thu Jan 20 08:06:17 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:06:17 +0000 Subject: Dual New Member Welcome Message-ID: Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. 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For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jan 20 08:42:38 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:42:38 +0000 Subject: Apple Remote In-Reply-To: <710018BF-CB24-474F-9803-D6F8552FCC63@mac-access.net> References: <64850DA7-016E-415E-9A8E-0110304CF6E9@gmail.com> <8B7BD1CD-168D-4EBE-A264-4BB96C560412@mac-access.net> <447A7D35-8101-4D01-93D7-A1B657F4A4FC@mac-access.net> <0B38630D-2640-4EB3-A796-6A91588A1A69@mac-access.net> <6AA194E0-1866-4242-A69E-20F028BB1BC0@mac-access.net> <710018BF-CB24-474F-9803-D6F8552FCC63@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8A5E1AD2-EF68-45A9-879E-0C01C14C2E5C@mac-access.net> Hello James On 19 Jan 2011, at 18:37, James AUSTIN wrote: > ? No problem :), but I think it helps if we're using the same version lol :) just kidding. I'm sorry; I guess I just assumed it would be the same. Lynne From Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com Thu Jan 20 09:19:02 2011 From: Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com (Frank Ventura) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 04:19:02 -0500 Subject: VO not reading data detectors In-Reply-To: <7D599817-7E24-4A45-B28F-9C973A588A1A@mac-access.net> References: <4A8C7F80-709F-432F-AD5C-735716862C58@verizon.net><8D3B9E0E-0232-4F59-9E82-1322A72A6B79@mac-access.net><36387A66-138A-4E20-96DF-FB558F7FDBA2@gmail.com> <7D599817-7E24-4A45-B28F-9C973A588A1A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B256C@mail.mail.breezes.local> Hi all, I know this has been covered in the past but what is the latest consensus? Is it possible to force VO not to say "data detector present" while reading email? Thanks Frank Ventura From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jan 20 11:32:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:32:40 +0000 Subject: VO not reading data detectors In-Reply-To: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B256C@mail.mail.breezes.local> References: <4A8C7F80-709F-432F-AD5C-735716862C58@verizon.net><8D3B9E0E-0232-4F59-9E82-1322A72A6B79@mac-access.net><36387A66-138A-4E20-96DF-FB558F7FDBA2@gmail.com> <7D599817-7E24-4A45-B28F-9C973A588A1A@mac-access.net> <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B256C@mail.mail.breezes.local> Message-ID: <8E3F8E86-CFFE-44A7-9B71-D1F2875DD3E6@mac-access.net> Hello Frank On 20 Jan 2011, at 09:19, Frank Ventura wrote: > ? I know this has been covered in the past but what is the latest > consensus? Is it possible to force VO not to say "data detector present" > while reading email? Somebody did suggest a terminal command to stop this; but we here, and I believe others as well, have found that it didn't work. To my knowledge, nothing further has been posted on this subject. Lynne From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Thu Jan 20 11:44:54 2011 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:44:54 +0000 Subject: Voice over and Adobe pdfs In-Reply-To: <93326DE6-7981-4C13-8F53-1E20A4AE5B6D@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <986174F9-DF2E-4980-ADFD-B994BAF91744@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <93326DE6-7981-4C13-8F53-1E20A4AE5B6D@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <47494878-4C1E-4DDE-B2B7-3908D92CFE00@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Hi Chris, Thanks for the help - I am getting nearer, but not quite. The reading out loud settings happen to be in adobe preferences in the reading panel. I set these to use the Alex voice as there was no enable or disable voice function, and I thought adobe's own voice may conflict with voice over. I went back to the document and clicked on read whole document out loud, and nothing happens at all. What can I be doing wrong do you think? even more thanks for your time. Ian On 19 January 2011, at 12:34, Chris Moore wrote: > Ian, > > Go to the Edit menu and move down to the Accessibility sub menu. and then select setup assistant. Choose the recommended settings for a screen reader. > > Now go to the View menu and then scroll down to the read out loud sub menu and choose from one of the options in there. > > Preview is ok, but I find it does not read table of contents etc as well as the Adobe Acrobat Reader. > > Chris > On 19 Jan 2011, at 12:09, Ian Harrison wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Yes, I have tried those options. I have adobe reader, but have been unable to find its own text to speech option. Can you point me to that in adobe's menus? >> >> Many thanks >> Ian >> On 19 January 2011, at 11:35, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Did you try a read all? VO+A? >>> Have you tried interacting with the PDF so you can read line by line? >>> >>> Failing that, you could download Adobe's PDF reader (Acrobat) and use the built in screen reader. It works fine but not as flexible as VO. >>> >>> Chris >>> On 19 Jan 2011, at 11:12, Ian Harrison wrote: >>> >>>> Hello to all, >>>> >>>> I am sure this has been asked before - so apologies. >>>> >>>> I cannot get voice over to read pdf documents and cannot open them as text files because of the protection. Can anyone provide a work around? >>>> >>>> A cheap converter for the Mac would be fine, or is there a way to trick voice over into reading them. I have tried in preview but it only reds the first page and I would prefer the ability to re read passages easily as you can in text editor. >>>> >>>> Many thanks >>>> Ian >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 12:11:23 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:11:23 +0100 Subject: VO not reading data detectors In-Reply-To: <8E3F8E86-CFFE-44A7-9B71-D1F2875DD3E6@mac-access.net> References: <4A8C7F80-709F-432F-AD5C-735716862C58@verizon.net><8D3B9E0E-0232-4F59-9E82-1322A72A6B79@mac-access.net><36387A66-138A-4E20-96DF-FB558F7FDBA2@gmail.com> <7D599817-7E24-4A45-B28F-9C973A588A1A@mac-access.net> <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B256C@mail.mail.breezes.local> <8E3F8E86-CFFE-44A7-9B71-D1F2875DD3E6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <27AC285E-5655-4E7C-A9D1-13271EDAF871@gmail.com> Hey Lynne, The command works in some instances, however I still have to figure out a connection. I decided to enable them again, however, as I use iCal a lot in connection with this. A suggestion has been passed on to the accessibility team upon my own request, though feel free to do so as well. Preferably, since all controls are already grouped within the "Verbosity" section of the VOiceOver Utility, this would be the most logical place to put it especially if there end up being various types of detectors. For example, I sometimes notice that I have a data detector even though the reason for it is totally alien and presents no context, logically at least, in conjunction with the use of either iCal or Address Book. Of course, if this is not the case in Mac OS X 10.7, Lion, then putting it in the "Verbosity>Announcements tab" in the VoiceOver Utility would probably be mostly appropriate. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com Thu Jan 20 13:47:27 2011 From: Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com (Frank Ventura) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:47:27 -0500 Subject: VO not reading data detectors In-Reply-To: <8E3F8E86-CFFE-44A7-9B71-D1F2875DD3E6@mac-access.net> References: <4A8C7F80-709F-432F-AD5C-735716862C58@verizon.net><8D3B9E0E-0232-4F59-9E82-1322A72A6B79@mac-access.net><36387A66-138A-4E20-96DF-FB558F7FDBA2@gmail.com><7D599817-7E24-4A45-B28F-9C973A588A1A@mac-access.net><1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B256C@mail.mail.breezes.local> <8E3F8E86-CFFE-44A7-9B71-D1F2875DD3E6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B256D@mail.mail.breezes.local> Lynn, thanks. If I find anything else out I will let the list know. Thank you Frank Ventura -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:33 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: VO not reading data detectors Hello Frank On 20 Jan 2011, at 09:19, Frank Ventura wrote: > * I know this has been covered in the past but what is the latest > consensus? Is it possible to force VO not to say "data detector present" > while reading email? Somebody did suggest a terminal command to stop this; but we here, and I believe others as well, have found that it didn't work. To my knowledge, nothing further has been posted on this subject. Lynne _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Jan 20 16:01:46 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:01:46 +0000 Subject: Maximising application windows Message-ID: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk> Hello All, When I used to use that other operating system I always used to maximise each application's window. That was useful as lines of text were longer and some applications needed to be maximised to work properly with screen reader support which assumed specific button locations etc. Is it possible to set up application windows he MAC OS so that each fills the entire screen and stays that way the next time you run the application? Sorry to mention that other OS.... Paul Hopewell From opensesame at me.com Thu Jan 20 16:37:07 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:37:07 -0500 Subject: Maximising application windows In-Reply-To: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk> References: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Paul, On Jan 20, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Is it possible to set up application windows he MAC OS so that each fills the entire screen and stays that way the next time you run the application? Like you, I prefer to have my application windows maximized. To accomplish this I use a free utility called "RightZoom." It changes the behavior of the OSX Zoom window function so it more closely matches that of MS Windows. RightZoom is a small program that runs in the background. When you first run the app it presents you with a perfectly accessible settings dialog in which you will find options for default behavior, modifier keys, hotkey combos and application preferences. I've been using this application for quite some time and am very satisfied with it. The download can be found at the following link, at least in the US, or you can search the web for "rightzoom" which is one word with no spaces or other characters in between. http://download.cnet.com/Right-Zoom/3000-18487_4-10909444.html Also note: When using the term "Zoom" I am referring to OSX's term for changing the size of application windows, I'm not referring to the OSX accessibility utility also named "Zoom." Cheers, Bryan From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jan 20 16:46:01 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:46:01 +0000 Subject: Maximising application windows In-Reply-To: References: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Paul and Bryan, Just a note to say that application window maximization is not necessary on Mac OS X, but of course, there's no reason why you shouldn't if you prefer things that way, or if you have some sight. TC :) James On 20 Jan 2011, at 16:37, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Paul, > > On Jan 20, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> Is it possible to set up application windows he MAC OS so that each fills the entire screen and stays that way the next time you run the application? > > > Like you, I prefer to have my application windows maximized. To accomplish this I use a free utility called "RightZoom." It changes the behavior of the OSX Zoom window function so it more closely matches that of MS Windows. RightZoom is a small program that runs in the background. When you first run the app it presents you with a perfectly accessible settings dialog in which you will find options for default behavior, modifier keys, hotkey combos and application preferences. I've been using this application for quite some time and am very satisfied with it. The download can be found at the following link, at least in the US, or you can search the web for "rightzoom" which is one word with no spaces or other characters in between. > > http://download.cnet.com/Right-Zoom/3000-18487_4-10909444.html > > Also note: When using the term "Zoom" I am referring to OSX's term for changing the size of application windows, I'm not referring to the OSX accessibility utility also named "Zoom." > > Cheers, > Bryan > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Thu Jan 20 18:00:14 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:00:14 -1000 Subject: Maximising application windows In-Reply-To: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk> References: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Paul, I think that in the window controls for each open application window, there are buttons for "close", "minimize", and "zoom". Using VO-Space (or "clicking" on these buttons perform the actions of closing the window (Command-W), minimizing open, active windows (placing them in the dock; Command-M for current open window with focus, and Command-Option-M for all open windows of the Application), and toggling the size of the open window between its current size and its maximum size (no default keyboard shortcut that I know of). I use keyboard shortcuts to close windows (Command-W), and have mainly explored these in the course of trouble-shooting (as a result of inadvertently using the shortcuts to minimize open windows -- this can be very confusing if you use Command-(grave) accent to switch between windows, because that shortcut only works when the open windows of an application -- not when they're minimized in the dock.) Mac OS X is supposed to remember the sizes and placement of windows on the screen, so if you press (VO-Space) or click the "zoom" button on a window to maximize it, or if you resize the open window, the settings should be saved for when you next open the application. However, VoiceOver does not tell you what the window size is when you press the "zoom" button. I think you have to go to the VoiceOver Commands menu (VO-H-H), and arrow down to the "Size and Position" menu, This will give you access to all the commands for moving and resizing a window. For example, if you choose to resize a window, you can pick whether you want to move the bottom edge or the right edge, and when you then use VO+Up or Down Arrow (for the bottom edge) or VO+Left or RIght Arrow (to move the right edge), VoiceOver will report the edge position and window size in pixels. There are probably better commands to report this, but you can explore from the available option menus. I think you might be able to create a shortcut for zooming your window, or else download a third party software solution like sizeup: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/productivity_tools/sizeup.html You could also try adding a shortcut definition in System Preferences from the Keyboard Shortcuts tab: System Preferences > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts Try selecting "Application Shortcuts" in the Shortcuts categories, then navigate to the button to "Add and Application Shortcut) and press it (VO-Space). In the dialog window, keep the pop up menu button set to "All Applications" and try typing in "Zoom" (possibly needing a capital "z"), then assigning a shortcut. You may have to do some experimentation with finding a shortcut combination that doesn't conflict with existing definitions. I should add that I haven't tried this (or looked at the sizeup software for accessibility). I assume this question has to do with trying to use Voxkeys or Mouse Tools to move your cursor to fixed positions and to click on items, and to get around the issue that these tools work on absolute screen coordinates -- not positions relative to the location of the open window. Try some of this out. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 20, 2011, at 06:01, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello All, > When I used to use that other operating system I always used to maximise each application's window. That was useful as lines of text were longer and some applications needed to be maximised to work properly with screen reader support which assumed specific button locations etc. > > Is it possible to set up application windows he MAC OS so that each fills the entire screen and stays that way the next time you run the application? > > Sorry to mention that other OS.... > > Paul Hopewell > From abreier at kc.rr.com Thu Jan 20 18:48:45 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:48:45 -0600 Subject: Maximising application windows References: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <94D0350F4D9349459EBBCCB2BA0DB044@andrea78cdd59a> I do not have a Mac yet, but what would be the benefit of resizing your window? From what you say, vo will stay in the app? Unlike in the windows platform it is necessary to have applications maximized or things may not read right? right? Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Maximising application windows > Hi Paul, > > I think that in the window controls for each open application window, > there are buttons for "close", "minimize", and "zoom". Using VO-Space (or > "clicking" on these buttons perform the actions of closing the window > (Command-W), minimizing open, active windows (placing them in the dock; > Command-M for current open window with focus, and Command-Option-M for all > open windows of the Application), and toggling the size of the open window > between its current size and its maximum size (no default keyboard > shortcut that I know of). > > I use keyboard shortcuts to close windows (Command-W), and have mainly > explored these in the course of trouble-shooting (as a result of > inadvertently using the shortcuts to minimize open windows -- this can be > very confusing if you use Command-(grave) accent to switch between > windows, because that shortcut only works when the open windows of an > application -- not when they're minimized in the dock.) > > Mac OS X is supposed to remember the sizes and placement of windows on the > screen, so if you press (VO-Space) or click the "zoom" button on a window > to maximize it, or if you resize the open window, the settings should be > saved for when you next open the application. However, VoiceOver does not > tell you what the window size is when you press the "zoom" button. I > think you have to go to the VoiceOver Commands menu (VO-H-H), and arrow > down to the "Size and Position" menu, This will give you access to all > the commands for moving and resizing a window. For example, if you choose > to resize a window, you can pick whether you want to move the bottom edge > or the right edge, and when you then use VO+Up or Down Arrow (for the > bottom edge) or VO+Left or RIght Arrow (to move the right edge), VoiceOver > will report the edge position and window size in pixels. There are > probably better commands to report this, but you can explore from the > available option menus. > > I think you might be able to create a shortcut for zooming your window, or > else download a third party software solution like sizeup: > > http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/productivity_tools/sizeup.html > > You could also try adding a shortcut definition in System Preferences from > the Keyboard Shortcuts tab: > System Preferences > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts > Try selecting "Application Shortcuts" in the Shortcuts categories, then > navigate to the button to "Add and Application Shortcut) and press it > (VO-Space). In the dialog window, keep the pop up menu button set to "All > Applications" and try typing in "Zoom" (possibly needing a capital "z"), > then assigning a shortcut. > > You may have to do some experimentation with finding a shortcut > combination that doesn't conflict with existing definitions. I should add > that I haven't tried this (or looked at the sizeup software for > accessibility). > > I assume this question has to do with trying to use Voxkeys or Mouse Tools > to move your cursor to fixed positions and to click on items, and to get > around the issue that these tools work on absolute screen coordinates -- > not positions relative to the location of the open window. > > Try some of this out. HTH. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jan 20, 2011, at 06:01, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello All, >> When I used to use that other operating system I always used to maximise >> each application's window. That was useful as lines of text were longer >> and some applications needed to be maximised to work properly with screen >> reader support which assumed specific button locations etc. >> >> Is it possible to set up application windows he MAC OS so that each fills >> the entire screen and stays that way the next time you run the >> application? >> >> Sorry to mention that other OS.... >> >> Paul Hopewell >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From moriond at mac.com Thu Jan 20 19:10:26 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:10:26 -1000 Subject: Maximising application windows In-Reply-To: <94D0350F4D9349459EBBCCB2BA0DB044@andrea78cdd59a> References: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk> <94D0350F4D9349459EBBCCB2BA0DB044@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <2C97624D-854E-4B8A-800D-CD988372A063@mac.com> Hi Andrea, You wrote: > I do not have a Mac yet, but what would be the benefit of resizing your window? From what you say, vo will stay in the app? Unlike in the windows platform it is necessary to have applications maximized or things may not read right? right? I think the reason that Paul wants to maximize his window is that he's trying to set up a script shortcut action so he can automatically click on controls in an application window. My guess is that this particular case is for the BBC iPlayer. There are some programs or tools that will let you move your mouse cursor to specific screen locations (and optionally, click the mouse, depending on the particular program or script). However, these programs use absolute screen coordinates (e.g., number of pixels to the left (x) and down (y) from the top left corner of the screen. When you open a window, in general both the placement of the top left corner of the window, and its size can vary. That means that you do not know where a player control or other element will be in absolute screen coordinates -- you only know where they are relative to the top left corner of that open application window. By forcing the window to use maximum size, Paul would be able to guarantee that the cursor location of the control to start the BBC iPlayer playing, for example, should always show up in the same place in absolute screen coordinates. Anyway, that's my hypothesis. Cheers, Esther From moriond at mac.com Thu Jan 20 20:01:24 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:01:24 -1000 Subject: Voice over and Adobe pdfs In-Reply-To: <47494878-4C1E-4DDE-B2B7-3908D92CFE00@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> References: <09C1BB5B-C12D-49E9-B23F-9F9CF249B5F2@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <986174F9-DF2E-4980-ADFD-B994BAF91744@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <93326DE6-7981-4C13-8F53-1E20A4AE5B6D@blueyonder.co.uk> <47494878-4C1E-4DDE-B2B7-3908D92CFE00@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <124E9376-ECD7-40C9-98B2-EB1B7223295E@mac.com> Hi Ian, If you use Adobe Reader, did you first activate Read Out Loud (Command-Shift-Y) before using the command to read to the end of the document (Command-Shift-B)? Also, there is no default Adobe Reader voice; the application simply uses text to speech with the voices on your system. If you want to select a system voice, or set a different speaking rate, you have to do this from the preferences menu (Command-Comma). Bring up the Preferences menu with Command+Comma, then VO-Down arrow from "Categories" to the table of preference categories and type "r e" to go to "Reading", then VO-Right arrow till you reach the "Read Out Loud" settings. This is where you select the volume, voice, reading rate, etc. for the text to speech that Adobe Reader uses. Check or uncheck the boxes for using the default voice or using the default speech attributes with VO-Space. If you want to specify the settings that control the speaking rate, you will have to uncheck the box for "Use default speech controls" so you can enter the a value. The maximum speed you can enter is 650 words per minute. Then, as Chris stated, to activate "Read out loud" with Adobe Reader, check the "View" menu on the menu bar for the "Read out loud" sub-menu commands and shortcuts: Activate/Deactivate Read out loud: Command-Shift-Y Read Only this page: Command-Shift-V Read to end of document: Command-Shift-B Pause: Command-Shift-C Stop: Command-Shift-E I have to state that when I just tried this after updating my version of Adobe Reader (from 9.0 to the latest 9.4.1), I couldn't get the speech to speed up. (It worked just fine before I updated). Trashing the ~/Library/Preferences/com.adobe.Reader_x86_9.0.plist didn't help. I notice that the current installation uses a base of version 9.1, so that might be the reason. Source URL for Adobe Reader is: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?platform=macintosh&product=10 Since the built-in PDF reader, Preview, is much nicer to use, I don't often check the status of Adobe Reader. Anyone else having problems speeding up the reading after resetting the reading preferences? I should mention that I haven't tried restarting my system (OS X 10.6.6) after doing the update, but I don't recall having to do this previously. Then again, this is so much less flexible than Preview or Skim, that I rarely use this. Chris, Preview will handle table of contents navigation, for documents that support this, in the sidebar. For example, if you're reading one of the Take Control manuals, or various Apple Support documents, there should be a radio button in the sidebar for table of contents view. Do you have this selected? What happens when you use item chooser menu (VO-I) and type in "radio" or "contents"? Unless your verbosity is set to "low", you'll hear something like "table of contents, selected radio button, 3 of 4" if you have selected to have your table of contents displayed in the sidebar, and this is supported for the documents. HTH Cheers, Esther On Jan 20, 2011, at 01:44, Ian Harrison wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Thanks for the help - I am getting nearer, but not quite. > > The reading out loud settings happen to be in adobe preferences in the reading panel. I set these to use the Alex voice as there was no enable or disable voice function, and I thought adobe's own voice may conflict with voice over. > > I went back to the document and clicked on read whole document out loud, and nothing happens at all. > > What can I be doing wrong do you think? > > even more thanks for your time. > > Ian > On 19 January 2011, at 12:34, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Ian, >> >> Go to the Edit menu and move down to the Accessibility sub menu. and then select setup assistant. Choose the recommended settings for a screen reader. >> >> Now go to the View menu and then scroll down to the read out loud sub menu and choose from one of the options in there. >> >> Preview is ok, but I find it does not read table of contents etc as well as the Adobe Acrobat Reader. >> >> Chris >> On 19 Jan 2011, at 12:09, Ian Harrison wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes, I have tried those options. I have adobe reader, but have been unable to find its own text to speech option. Can you point me to that in adobe's menus? >>> >>> Many thanks >>> Ian >>> On 19 January 2011, at 11:35, Chris Moore wrote: >>> >>>> Did you try a read all? VO+A? >>>> Have you tried interacting with the PDF so you can read line by line? >>>> >>>> Failing that, you could download Adobe's PDF reader (Acrobat) and use the built in screen reader. It works fine but not as flexible as VO. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> On 19 Jan 2011, at 11:12, Ian Harrison wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello to all, >>>>> >>>>> I am sure this has been asked before - so apologies. >>>>> >>>>> I cannot get voice over to read pdf documents and cannot open them as text files because of the protection. Can anyone provide a work around? >>>>> >>>>> A cheap converter for the Mac would be fine, or is there a way to trick voice over into reading them. I have tried in preview but it only reds the first page and I would prefer the ability to re read passages easily as you can in text editor. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks >>>>> Ian From abreier at kc.rr.com Thu Jan 20 20:34:19 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:34:19 -0600 Subject: Maximising application windows References: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk><94D0350F4D9349459EBBCCB2BA0DB044@andrea78cdd59a> <2C97624D-854E-4B8A-800D-CD988372A063@mac.com> Message-ID: <3761217805414816B49C235DAC670D78@andrea78cdd59a> Thanks so much Esther. Is this a common occurrence with apps for the Mac? Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:10 PM Subject: Re: Maximising application windows > Hi Andrea, > > You wrote: > >> I do not have a Mac yet, but what would be the benefit of resizing your >> window? From what you say, vo will stay in the app? Unlike in the >> windows platform it is necessary to have applications maximized or things >> may not read right? right? > > I think the reason that Paul wants to maximize his window is that he's > trying to set up a script shortcut action so he can automatically click on > controls in an application window. My guess is that this particular case > is for the BBC iPlayer. There are some programs or tools that will let > you move your mouse cursor to specific screen locations (and optionally, > click the mouse, depending on the particular program or script). However, > these programs use absolute screen coordinates (e.g., number of pixels to > the left (x) and down (y) from the top left corner of the screen. When > you open a window, in general both the placement of the top left corner of > the window, and its size can vary. That means that you do not know where > a player control or other element will be in absolute screen > coordinates -- you only know where they are relative to the top left > corner of that open application window. By forcing the window to use > maximum size, Paul would be able to guarantee that the > cursor location of the control to start the BBC iPlayer playing, for > example, should always show up in the same place in absolute screen > coordinates. Anyway, that's my hypothesis. > > Cheers, > > Esther > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 21:49:43 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:49:43 -0800 Subject: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for. Message-ID: <6FCEDB61-D2BF-4F80-83BE-20E48831A0BD@gmail.com> Is this another method apple i using to control repairs and keep consumers out? read more: http://bit.ly/gpoTpd From opensesame at me.com Thu Jan 20 21:51:41 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:51:41 -0500 Subject: Maximising application windows In-Reply-To: <94D0350F4D9349459EBBCCB2BA0DB044@andrea78cdd59a> References: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk> <94D0350F4D9349459EBBCCB2BA0DB044@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <9CD5E262-9217-49F6-A294-0E87F0458C42@me.com> Hi Andrea, Esther, Paul and All, On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: > I do not have a Mac yet, but what would be the benefit of resizing your window? From what you say, vo will stay in the app? Unlike in the windows platform it is necessary to have applications maximized or things may not read I personally like to maximize my windows because it matches the way I use OSX's accessibility tools. When my vision began to fade I first started using OSX's built-in magnification and white-on-black features, and then later added VoiceOver into the mix, but I think I use VO a little differently than many Mac Users do. Having spent many years as a sighted user of both Mac OS and Windows, I think I feel more comfortable using a spatial approach to navigating my screens. I tend to combine the use of my mouse with the usual VO keyboard navigation methods. My mouse pointer is usually set to speak whatever it is pointing at, thus when I am "mousing" over the screen and move outside the boundaries of a non-maximized application window I will start hearing unwanted information from whichever background window my mouse pointer hits. However, if I keep all my application windows maximized and just Command-Tab between them, I am free to navigate with keyboard and mouse and not worry so much about where I am on the screen. To confuse myself even further, I've added the Magic trackpad into the mix so now in addition to the keyboard & mouse I can navigate using the wonderful multi-touch and swipe gestures. Not sure if my description makes sense, but I hope this helps, Bryan From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Thu Jan 20 22:03:11 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:03:11 +0000 Subject: reading windows ??? Message-ID: Hi there i was on a site tonite and was going through the page using vo keys and down arrow i had to interact with parts then when i clicked on a link it brought up a box i know this as my friend was by me also looking at the sight i tried to find this window and couldn't it would not tell me anything i tried tabbing and vo arrows i also tried vo f2 f2 to see if there was anything and nope i do use another site which brings up a window halifax and that reads it fine what am i doing does this sight mean its not accessible and i just cant /wont be able to read the pop up boxes or what ever they are smiley help please thank you jules From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 22:24:03 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:24:03 -0800 Subject: reading windows ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90A6E03F-CE71-40C6-95CB-6E4625DBB282@gmail.com> What sight is it if you can give it out that would be nice. S On Jan 20, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: > Hi there > > i was on a site tonite and was going through the page using vo keys and down arrow i had to interact with parts then when i clicked on a link it brought up a box i know this as my friend was by me also looking at the sight i tried to find this window and couldn't it would not tell me anything i tried tabbing and vo arrows i also tried vo f2 f2 to see if there was anything and nope > > i do use another site which brings up a window halifax and that reads it fine > > what am i doing does this sight mean its not accessible and i just cant /wont be able to read the pop up boxes or what ever they are smiley > > help please > > thank you > > jules > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Thu Jan 20 22:34:15 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:34:15 +0000 Subject: reading windows ??? In-Reply-To: <90A6E03F-CE71-40C6-95CB-6E4625DBB282@gmail.com> References: <90A6E03F-CE71-40C6-95CB-6E4625DBB282@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0747613A-5F43-46AC-AE62-D28C7D7DE572@virginmedia.com> yes sure its www.graze.com i was logged on at the time but im sure you would be able to have the same thing happen my friend read it to me in the end i also could not get rid of the box she manually did it but it did read what was under the box argh sorry im bit vague it like came over the top of what i was reading if that makes sence thanks and sorry im not explaining very well am i jules On 20 Jan 2011, at 22:24, Sarah Alawami wrote: > What sight is it if you can give it out that would be nice. > > S > On Jan 20, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> Hi there >> >> i was on a site tonite and was going through the page using vo keys and down arrow i had to interact with parts then when i clicked on a link it brought up a box i know this as my friend was by me also looking at the sight i tried to find this window and couldn't it would not tell me anything i tried tabbing and vo arrows i also tried vo f2 f2 to see if there was anything and nope >> >> i do use another site which brings up a window halifax and that reads it fine >> >> what am i doing does this sight mean its not accessible and i just cant /wont be able to read the pop up boxes or what ever they are smiley >> >> help please >> >> thank you >> >> jules >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 22:34:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:34:27 -0800 Subject: Apple Investigating Multi-Touch Display for Magic Mouse, Haptic Feedback for Virtual Keyboards? Message-ID: <5B715888-2BE4-458B-9324-7517E21433AB@gmail.com> I can see this maybe for accessibility improvement. read more: http://bit.ly/e9rhWx From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 23:02:22 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:02:22 -0800 Subject: someneat tips for iphone users Message-ID: <17DD3243-982A-4652-B593-598D09B9EF63@gmail.com> Here are some neat tips for iphone users. I am using some of them but good luck I might do this on my older iphone when it comes time to upgrade. http://lifehac.kr/fYPUXx From abreier at kc.rr.com Thu Jan 20 23:11:57 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:11:57 -0600 Subject: Maximising application windows References: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk><94D0350F4D9349459EBBCCB2BA0DB044@andrea78cdd59a> <9CD5E262-9217-49F6-A294-0E87F0458C42@me.com> Message-ID: <3D2AB9299B924240B7FA7F1B11EDFA69@andrea78cdd59a> Yes, thank you, it does. If I have It right it sounds like open apps can appear visually as sheets of paper over lapped when several are open. If you use the track pad and can use flicks and taps, you should stay within the app window that has focus. If this it the case, I think I will have to invest in the track pad from the get go. LOL Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Jones" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: Maximising application windows > Hi Andrea, Esther, Paul and All, > > On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >> I do not have a Mac yet, but what would be the benefit of resizing your >> window? From what you say, vo will stay in the app? Unlike in the >> windows platform it is necessary to have applications maximized or things >> may not read > > I personally like to maximize my windows because it matches the way I use > OSX's accessibility tools. When my vision began to fade I first started > using OSX's built-in magnification and white-on-black features, and then > later added VoiceOver into the mix, but I think I use VO a little > differently than many Mac Users do. Having spent many years as a sighted > user of both Mac OS and Windows, I think I feel more comfortable using a > spatial approach to navigating my screens. I tend to combine the use of my > mouse with the usual VO keyboard navigation methods. My mouse pointer is > usually set to speak whatever it is pointing at, thus when I am "mousing" > over the screen and move outside the boundaries of a non-maximized > application window I will start hearing unwanted information from > whichever background window my mouse pointer hits. However, if I keep all > my application windows maximized and just Command-Tab between them, I am > free to navigate with keyboard and mouse and not worry so > much about where I am on the screen. > > To confuse myself even further, I've added the Magic trackpad into the mix > so now in addition to the keyboard & mouse I can navigate using the > wonderful multi-touch and swipe gestures. > > Not sure if my description makes sense, but I hope this helps, > Bryan > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jan 20 23:34:28 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:34:28 +0000 Subject: Maximising application windows In-Reply-To: <3D2AB9299B924240B7FA7F1B11EDFA69@andrea78cdd59a> References: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk><94D0350F4D9349459EBBCCB2BA0DB044@andrea78cdd59a> <9CD5E262-9217-49F6-A294-0E87F0458C42@me.com> <3D2AB9299B924240B7FA7F1B11EDFA69@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <238191DD-2382-4B61-B1D3-7B6A711917A4@mac-access.net> Hello Andrea That is a fantastic analogy thank you. As a totally Blind person, I've always wondered how to eplain this. Take care :) James On 20 Jan 2011, at 23:11, Andrea Breier wrote: > Yes, thank you, it does. If I have It right it sounds like open apps can appear visually as sheets of paper over lapped when several are open. If you use the track pad and can use flicks and taps, you should stay within the app window that has focus. If this it the case, I think I will have to invest in the track pad from the get go. LOL > Hugs, Andrea M Breier > > Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Jones" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:51 PM > Subject: Re: Maximising application windows > > >> Hi Andrea, Esther, Paul and All, >> >> On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>> I do not have a Mac yet, but what would be the benefit of resizing your window? From what you say, vo will stay in the app? Unlike in the windows platform it is necessary to have applications maximized or things may not read >> >> I personally like to maximize my windows because it matches the way I use OSX's accessibility tools. When my vision began to fade I first started using OSX's built-in magnification and white-on-black features, and then later added VoiceOver into the mix, but I think I use VO a little differently than many Mac Users do. Having spent many years as a sighted user of both Mac OS and Windows, I think I feel more comfortable using a spatial approach to navigating my screens. I tend to combine the use of my mouse with the usual VO keyboard navigation methods. My mouse pointer is usually set to speak whatever it is pointing at, thus when I am "mousing" over the screen and move outside the boundaries of a non-maximized application window I will start hearing unwanted information from whichever background window my mouse pointer hits. However, if I keep all my application windows maximized and just Command-Tab between them, I am free to navigate with keyboard and mouse and not worry so >> much about where I am on the screen. >> >> To confuse myself even further, I've added the Magic trackpad into the mix so now in addition to the keyboard & mouse I can navigate using the wonderful multi-touch and swipe gestures. >> >> Not sure if my description makes sense, but I hope this helps, >> Bryan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From abreier at kc.rr.com Thu Jan 20 23:37:17 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:37:17 -0600 Subject: Maximising application windows References: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk><94D0350F4D9349459EBBCCB2BA0DB044@andrea78cdd59a><9CD5E262-9217-49F6-A294-0E87F0458C42@me.com><3D2AB9299B924240B7FA7F1B11EDFA69@andrea78cdd59a> <238191DD-2382-4B61-B1D3-7B6A711917A4@mac-access.net> Message-ID: This goes back to all of the years of teaching, I guess. LOL Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "James AUSTIN" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Maximising application windows > Hello Andrea > > That is a fantastic analogy thank you. As a totally Blind person, I've > always wondered how to eplain this. > > Take care :) > James > On 20 Jan 2011, at 23:11, Andrea Breier wrote: > >> Yes, thank you, it does. If I have It right it sounds like open apps can >> appear visually as sheets of paper over lapped when several are open. If >> you use the track pad and can use flicks and taps, you should stay within >> the app window that has focus. If this it the case, I think I will have >> to invest in the track pad from the get go. LOL >> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >> >> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of >> yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the >> rest to God >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Jones" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:51 PM >> Subject: Re: Maximising application windows >> >> >>> Hi Andrea, Esther, Paul and All, >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>> I do not have a Mac yet, but what would be the benefit of resizing your >>>> window? From what you say, vo will stay in the app? Unlike in the >>>> windows platform it is necessary to have applications maximized or >>>> things may not read >>> >>> I personally like to maximize my windows because it matches the way I >>> use OSX's accessibility tools. When my vision began to fade I first >>> started using OSX's built-in magnification and white-on-black features, >>> and then later added VoiceOver into the mix, but I think I use VO a >>> little differently than many Mac Users do. Having spent many years as a >>> sighted user of both Mac OS and Windows, I think I feel more comfortable >>> using a spatial approach to navigating my screens. I tend to combine the >>> use of my mouse with the usual VO keyboard navigation methods. My mouse >>> pointer is usually set to speak whatever it is pointing at, thus when I >>> am "mousing" over the screen and move outside the boundaries of a >>> non-maximized application window I will start hearing unwanted >>> information from whichever background window my mouse pointer hits. >>> However, if I keep all my application windows maximized and just >>> Command-Tab between them, I am free to navigate with keyboard and mouse >>> and not worry > so >>> much about where I am on the screen. >>> >>> To confuse myself even further, I've added the Magic trackpad into the >>> mix so now in addition to the keyboard & mouse I can navigate using the >>> wonderful multi-touch and swipe gestures. >>> >>> Not sure if my description makes sense, but I hope this helps, >>> Bryan >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 00:19:49 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:19:49 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? Message-ID: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. S From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 21 01:28:49 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:28:49 +0000 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, it can and most probably is. I think you needto keep at least 10% of your HD fre for Mac for it to work properly before it starts creating huge SWAP files, I think they're called. Take care :) James On 21 Jan 2011, at 00:19, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. > > S > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From profhero1 at mac.com Fri Jan 21 02:55:41 2011 From: profhero1 at mac.com (Tom Sullivan) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:55:41 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." Tom Sullivan profhero1 at mac.com On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. S _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: Tom Sullivan profhero1 at mac.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 03:09:26 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:09:26 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> Message-ID: <76C914E3-B48B-41ED-8849-D5FF7701CA2A@gmail.com> Well now I have 27 gig free. my mail is still a bit slow. Hope fully I can free up more space. We'll see. S On Jan 20, 2011, at 5:28 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Yes, it can and most probably is. I think you needto keep at least 10% of your HD fre for Mac for it to work properly before it starts creating huge SWAP files, I think they're called. > > Take care :) > > James > On 21 Jan 2011, at 00:19, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >> >> S >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 03:09:55 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:09:55 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks. I read an article about a few weeks ago but Now that I've experienced thiat I"ll try and be more careful. On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Tom Sullivan wrote: > Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." > > Tom Sullivan > profhero1 at mac.com > > > > On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. > > S > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > Tom Sullivan > profhero1 at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From christy at compaccessable.com Fri Jan 21 03:29:54 2011 From: christy at compaccessable.com (Christy Schulte) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:29:54 -0600 Subject: auto correct Message-ID: So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. Is this possible? Christy From abreier at kc.rr.com Fri Jan 21 03:45:17 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:45:17 -0600 Subject: auto correct References: Message-ID: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM Subject: auto correct > So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can > save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! > > My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't > like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to > turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I > just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a > space and leave it be. > Is this possible? > > Christy > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 03:59:22 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:59:22 -0800 Subject: auto correct In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've been wondering the same thing actually. I disabled it but I'll reinable it if I can tell it no don't change this word. S On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Christy Schulte wrote: > So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! > > My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. > Is this possible? > > Christy > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 04:00:02 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:00:02 -0800 Subject: auto correct In-Reply-To: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! S On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: > I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. > Hugs, Andrea M Breier > > Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM > Subject: auto correct > > >> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >> >> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >> Is this possible? >> >> Christy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 04:46:49 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:46:49 -0800 Subject: onyx update Message-ID: <06A7A920-94FB-49BD-BF2E-EFECC11589EF@gmail.com> For those that want to update onyx but cannot due to the error that it cannot access the website here is the link to an update. http://bit.ly/hk1caa Take care all. S From simoncavendish at me.com Fri Jan 21 06:32:56 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:32:56 +0000 Subject: Buying "Take Control books" Message-ID: <0F537F5A-68C6-430E-9A0B-1A3C284ACF02@me.com> Hello Listers, I've just purchased "Take Control of Mac Os Backups" book in pdf format via the Mac-Access list - our very own list. Here is some feedback of my experience. First of all, it is great to have a book at such a good price. I had previously been buying some of the books in the series at much higher price. Secondly, I have found the process of buying using papal (provided one has an account with Paypal) very straight forward. I e-mailed Gordon and Lynne with the request for the book, and shortly I had a Paypal request e-mail back with the link included. I pressed the link, entered the necessary details and hey presto! I received an e-mail from Mac-Access with the download link. The books come in a zipped file but they unzip automatically to your download folder. Thanks Mac-Access for the swift, friendly, no hastle process. Best wishes Simon From phonerossy at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 08:19:56 2011 From: phonerossy at gmail.com (rossy) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:19:56 +0100 Subject: Buying "Take Control books" In-Reply-To: <0F537F5A-68C6-430E-9A0B-1A3C284ACF02@me.com> References: <0F537F5A-68C6-430E-9A0B-1A3C284ACF02@me.com> Message-ID: hellow , i would like to confirm the same excellent esperience with mac access take control books . it is so nice to have these services and i strongly recommend those books for all new swichers . they are easy and funny to read . i read them on my iphone and mac in very easy way . I would want to thank very much lynne and gordon for their unlimited kindness and promptness in helping me out with my internet and download problems . than you very much and keep on this wonderful job . rossy I giorno 21/gen/2011, alle ore 07.32, simoncavendish at me.com ha scritto: > Hello Listers, > > I've just purchased "Take Control of Mac Os Backups" book in pdf format via the Mac-Access list - our very own list. Here is some feedback of my experience. > > First of all, it is great to have a book at such a good price. I had previously been buying some of the books in the series at much higher price. Secondly, I have found the process of buying using papal (provided one has an account with Paypal) very straight forward. I e-mailed Gordon and Lynne with the request for the book, and shortly I had a Paypal request e-mail back with the link included. I pressed the link, entered the necessary details and hey presto! I received an e-mail from Mac-Access with the download link. The books come in a zipped file but they unzip automatically to your download folder. > > Thanks Mac-Access for the swift, friendly, no hastle process. > > Best wishes > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > *** Nel mondo molti uomini possono molto perch? hanno, perch? sanno, perch? decidono. Molti contano poco, ma credono e amano molto. Quando chi pu? si unir? a quelli che amano potremo sperare di cambiare il mondo. 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For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Jan 21 11:23:27 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:23:27 +0000 Subject: Maximising application windows In-Reply-To: <2C97624D-854E-4B8A-800D-CD988372A063@mac.com> References: <6083DD7B-289B-469C-AC8E-5116371BFD6D@hopewell.org.uk> <94D0350F4D9349459EBBCCB2BA0DB044@andrea78cdd59a> <2C97624D-854E-4B8A-800D-CD988372A063@mac.com> Message-ID: <20D794B8-A096-4883-8571-1A8DB45F6FE0@hopewell.org.uk> Hello Esther, You are dead right with the attached!@ Also many thanks for the info on the functions of minimise and zoom buttons and what they do. I will do some experiments, especially as you have reminded me of the way to have VO speak the window size and position. Best wishes.... Paul On 20 Jan 2011, at 19:10, Esther wrote: > Hi Andrea, > > You wrote: > >> I do not have a Mac yet, but what would be the benefit of resizing your window? From what you say, vo will stay in the app? Unlike in the windows platform it is necessary to have applications maximized or things may not read right? right? > > I think the reason that Paul wants to maximize his window is that he's trying to set up a script shortcut action so he can automatically click on controls in an application window. My guess is that this particular case is for the BBC iPlayer. There are some programs or tools that will let you move your mouse cursor to specific screen locations (and optionally, click the mouse, depending on the particular program or script). However, these programs use absolute screen coordinates (e.g., number of pixels to the left (x) and down (y) from the top left corner of the screen. When you open a window, in general both the placement of the top left corner of the window, and its size can vary. That means that you do not know where a player control or other element will be in absolute screen coordinates -- you only know where they are relative to the top left corner of that open application window. By forcing the window to use maximum size, Paul would be able to guarantee that the > cursor location of the control to start the BBC iPlayer playing, for example, should always show up in the same place in absolute screen coordinates. Anyway, that's my hypothesis. > > Cheers, > > Esther > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Jan 21 13:03:21 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:03:21 +0000 Subject: Using the magic trackpad with trackpad commander disabled Message-ID: <7CAD4856-DE46-48AC-9450-506ABB48144F@hopewell.org.uk> Hello All, Can any of you who have some vision and have a magic trackpad please tell me how the trackpad works with trackpad commander disabled. I am trying to use the trackpad to position the mouse at a specific offset from the top left corner of a Safari window (to develop a Voxkeys shortcut for the BBC iPlayer). Am I correct in thinking that if I put my finger anywhere on the trackpad and move it right a bit then the mouse will move right a bit? Or do I have to put my finger on the trackpad at the place where I what the mouse to be, that is is the trackpad a map of the actual screen with each fixed point on the track pad corresponding to a fixed point on the screen? If I can move the mouse right a bit by putting my finger anywhere on the trackpad and moving it right a bit then is there any way to modify the gearing as at present a small movement on the trackpad seems to result in a larger than desired change in the mouse position. If I get the mouse to the correct place (using Control+Option+F5 to determine the mouse position) then can I tap anywhere on the trackpad to do a single mouse click or double tap anywhere on the trackpad to do a double mouse click? Many thanks for your help. Paul Hopewell hopewell at hopewell.org.uk From abreier at kc.rr.com Fri Jan 21 13:32:21 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:32:21 -0600 Subject: auto correct References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a> <532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a> I don't know if I am going to explain this just right, but here goes. From what I remember, he said that if you are typing a word and it does the autocorrect on your word, trying to change it to what it assumes it should be. Just back space and retype from the point where it auto corrected. It will try to put it back to it's correction selection then you delete back and fix it two more times. He said from this point the auto correction should auto correct to the word you kept changing it to. I guess the auto correct is intuitive and it will try to customize it's self to what the user needs. I thought it was good to know, but haven't done anything with it yet, so I can't say as to how successful it is. Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:00 PM Subject: Re: auto correct >I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm >confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my >poor head. lol! > > S > On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: > >> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times >> and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks >> you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >> >> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of >> yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the >> rest to God >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >> >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >> Subject: auto correct >> >> >>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can >>> save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>> >>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it >>> doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I >>> don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the >>> entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, >>> just let me type a space and leave it be. >>> Is this possible? >>> >>> Christy >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From opensesame at me.com Fri Jan 21 13:42:57 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:42:57 -0500 Subject: Using the magic trackpad with trackpad commander disabled In-Reply-To: <7CAD4856-DE46-48AC-9450-506ABB48144F@hopewell.org.uk> References: <7CAD4856-DE46-48AC-9450-506ABB48144F@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <801547C9-1301-4CFE-AF9C-0B61ACF08CBA@me.com> Hi Paul, You wrote: > Can any of you who have some vision and have a magic trackpad please tell me how the trackpad works with trackpad commander disabled. I fall into that category . Please see my responses below and let me know if I can be of further assistance. > I am trying to use the trackpad to position the mouse at a specific offset from the top left corner of a Safari window (to develop a Voxkeys shortcut for the BBC iPlayer). Am I correct in thinking that if I put my finger anywhere on the trackpad and move it right a bit then the mouse will move right a bit? Or do I have to put my finger on the trackpad at the place where I what the mouse to be, that is is the trackpad a map of the actual screen with each fixed point on the track pad corresponding to a fixed point on the screen? If I can move the mouse right a bit by putting my finger anywhere on the trackpad and moving it right a bit then is there any way to modify the gearing as at present a small movement on the trackpad seems to result in a larger than desired change in the mouse position. Your first statement is correct, that is: If you put your finger anywhere on the trackpad and move it right a bit then the mouse will move right a bit from it's current location. You can, as you say, "modify the gearing" by changing the "Tracking Speed" setting. This setting can be found in System Preferences / Trackpad. Within the Trackpad settings panel you will find a slider to change the Tracking Speed, which changes the distance the mouse pointer will move when you are sliding your finger across the magic trackpad. Use VO to interact with the slider and you can adjust the mouse pointer movement to a crawl by moving the slider all the way to the left. Regarding a fixed point relationship between trackpad and screen: As far as I can determine, the magic trackpad cannot be setup so that each fixed point matches a fixed point on the screen. > If I get the mouse to the correct place (using Control+Option+F5 to determine the mouse position) then can I tap anywhere on the trackpad to do a single mouse click or double tap anywhere on the trackpad to do a double mouse click? Yes, you can. You'll want to check the other settings in the System Preferences / Trackpad settings as there are a number of options to define the behavior of your one, two, three and four finger taps and gestures. HTH, Bryan From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Jan 21 14:58:09 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:58:09 +0000 Subject: Using the magic trackpad with trackpad commander disabled In-Reply-To: <801547C9-1301-4CFE-AF9C-0B61ACF08CBA@me.com> References: <7CAD4856-DE46-48AC-9450-506ABB48144F@hopewell.org.uk> <801547C9-1301-4CFE-AF9C-0B61ACF08CBA@me.com> Message-ID: <9D875F48-AFB7-4752-95B8-B28C873478EA@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Brian, Many thanks thats very helpful and the gearing is now much better. Is there any way to lock the trackpad so that approximately horizontal finger movements become precisely horizontal and approximately vertical finger movements become precisely vertical? Best wishes.... Paul Hopewell On 21 Jan 2011, at 13:42, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Paul, > You wrote: > >> Can any of you who have some vision and have a magic trackpad please tell me how the trackpad works with trackpad commander disabled. > > I fall into that category . Please see my responses below and let me know if I can be of further assistance. > >> I am trying to use the trackpad to position the mouse at a specific offset from the top left corner of a Safari window (to develop a Voxkeys shortcut for the BBC iPlayer). Am I correct in thinking that if I put my finger anywhere on the trackpad and move it right a bit then the mouse will move right a bit? Or do I have to put my finger on the trackpad at the place where I what the mouse to be, that is is the trackpad a map of the actual screen with each fixed point on the track pad corresponding to a fixed point on the screen? If I can move the mouse right a bit by putting my finger anywhere on the trackpad and moving it right a bit then is there any way to modify the gearing as at present a small movement on the trackpad seems to result in a larger than desired change in the mouse position. > > Your first statement is correct, that is: If you put your finger anywhere on the trackpad and move it right a bit then the mouse will move right a bit from it's current location. > You can, as you say, "modify the gearing" by changing the "Tracking Speed" setting. This setting can be found in System Preferences / Trackpad. Within the Trackpad settings panel you will find a slider to change the Tracking Speed, which changes the distance the mouse pointer will move when you are sliding your finger across the magic trackpad. Use VO to interact with the slider and you can adjust the mouse pointer movement to a crawl by moving the slider all the way to the left. > Regarding a fixed point relationship between trackpad and screen: As far as I can determine, the magic trackpad cannot be setup so that each fixed point matches a fixed point on the screen. > >> If I get the mouse to the correct place (using Control+Option+F5 to determine the mouse position) then can I tap anywhere on the trackpad to do a single mouse click or double tap anywhere on the trackpad to do a double mouse click? > > Yes, you can. You'll want to check the other settings in the System Preferences / Trackpad settings as there are a number of options to define the behavior of your one, two, three and four finger taps and gestures. > > HTH, > Bryan > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Fri Jan 21 17:49:22 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 17:49:22 +0000 Subject: reading web pages Message-ID: <4d39c6f6.4cefd80a.4036.61aa@mx.google.com> how do i read text on web pages in safari other than tabbing through links? using the standard arrow keys doesn't appear to work when reading text. i read something in a voiceover manual about changing speech settings, stuff about dom etc but at the moment i am a bit confused. i am wondering if to read text i need to use the voiceover keys along with the arrow keys in order to navigate text on a web page. i notice when using tab i eventually get a message tebbling me that i have left html and i get to all the stuff about google, wikki etc. From helianthe at mac-access.net Fri Jan 21 17:50:40 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:50:40 +0100 Subject: reading web pages In-Reply-To: <4d39c6f6.4cefd80a.4036.61aa@mx.google.com> References: <4d39c6f6.4cefd80a.4036.61aa@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Michael, You need to use the voice over keys incombination with the arrow keys. Hope this helps. Lyn & Twinny On Jan 21, 2011, at 6:49 PM, michael weaver wrote: > how do i read text on web pages in safari other than tabbing through links? > using the standard arrow keys doesn't appear to work when reading text. > i read something in a voiceover manual about changing speech settings, stuff about dom etc but at the moment i am a bit confused. > i am wondering if to read text i need to use the voiceover keys along with the arrow keys in order to navigate text on a web page. > i notice when using tab i eventually get a message tebbling me that i have left html and i get to all the stuff about google, wikki etc. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Jan 21 18:01:05 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:01:05 +0000 Subject: reading web pages In-Reply-To: References: <4d39c6f6.4cefd80a.4036.61aa@mx.google.com> Message-ID: For starters, use VO+A to read all. Or use VO + the arrow keys to move left and right through a web page. Some pages have the reader mode enabled, so you could use command + shift + R. You can also use the rota and item chooser to move through elements of a web page. Press VO + I for the item chooser, then use your up and down arrow keys. Press VO + U for the rota and then move left or right to select headers, links, images, forms etc. You can also use quick keys to move through a web page too. Simply press the left and right arrow keys together and you will hear VO say quick nav on. You can now just simply press left and right to move through a web page without having to hold down the VO keys. To switch quick nav back off, simply hold down the left and right arrows again. Oh and by pressing up and down together whilst in quick nav mode acts as a mouse click to select, open a link etc. Chris On 21 Jan 2011, at 17:50, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > Michael, > > You need to use the voice over keys incombination with the arrow keys. Hope this helps. > > Lyn & Twinny > On Jan 21, 2011, at 6:49 PM, michael weaver wrote: > >> how do i read text on web pages in safari other than tabbing through links? >> using the standard arrow keys doesn't appear to work when reading text. >> i read something in a voiceover manual about changing speech settings, stuff about dom etc but at the moment i am a bit confused. >> i am wondering if to read text i need to use the voiceover keys along with the arrow keys in order to navigate text on a web page. >> i notice when using tab i eventually get a message tebbling me that i have left html and i get to all the stuff about google, wikki etc. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > ********** > You can contact me in the following ways: > email: > helianthe at mac-access.net > msn: > lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com > skype: > keanemaniac > facebook: > www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 > I am now also on twitter: > www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 > Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 20:34:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 12:34:15 -0800 Subject: auto correct In-Reply-To: <5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a> <532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com> <5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <8BB09B39-A757-4D6C-B7DE-B86D626A1AF0@gmail.com> Thanks. I will try that outS On 21/01/2011, at 5:32, "Andrea Breier" wrote: > I don't know if I am going to explain this just right, but here goes. From what I remember, he said that if you are typing a word and it does the autocorrect on your word, trying to change it to what it assumes it should be. Just back space and retype from the point where it auto corrected. It will try to put it back to it's correction selection then you delete back and fix it two more times. He said from this point the auto correction should auto correct to the word you kept changing it to. I guess the auto correct is intuitive and it will try to customize it's self to what the user needs. I thought it was good to know, but haven't done anything with it yet, so I can't say as to how successful it is. > Hugs, Andrea M Breier > > Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:00 PM > Subject: Re: auto correct > > >> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >> >> S >> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >> >>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>> >>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>> Subject: auto correct >>> >>> >>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>> >>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>> Is this possible? >>>> >>>> Christy >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 20:41:34 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 12:41:34 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> Message-ID: <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. S On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: > Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." > > Tom Sullivan > profhero1 at mac.com > > > > On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. > > S > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > Tom Sullivan > profhero1 at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Jan 21 21:02:24 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:02:24 -1000 Subject: Using the magic trackpad with trackpad commander disabled In-Reply-To: <9D875F48-AFB7-4752-95B8-B28C873478EA@hopewell.org.uk> References: <7CAD4856-DE46-48AC-9450-506ABB48144F@hopewell.org.uk> <801547C9-1301-4CFE-AF9C-0B61ACF08CBA@me.com> <9D875F48-AFB7-4752-95B8-B28C873478EA@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <6F3ED56F-B7FB-4682-9783-6859A68096C2@mac.com> Hi Paul, You wrote: > Hi Brian, > Many thanks thats very helpful and the gearing is now much better. > Is there any way to lock the trackpad so that approximately horizontal finger movements become precisely horizontal and approximately vertical finger movements become precisely vertical? I don't think there's any way to lock the trackpad so that approximately horizontal finger movements become precisely horizontal, but I think that if your mouse cursor is positioned at the edge of the screen, you won't be able to move it beyond that edge with the Trackpad. So, for example, if your cursor is at the top of the screen in the status bar menu, and you move your finger on the Trackpad from right to left, but angling slightly upward as you move, the upward component of motion will be ignored because you can't move the mouse cursor position off the screen and past the top edge with your navigation. Alternatively, have you thought of just wrapping rubber bands around your Magic Trackpad to guide your motion either horizontally or vertically? Or maybe you can use the top edge of the smooth section of the Magic Trackpad to give you a reference for a precise horizontal line? I believe the way the TrackPad navigation works is that when you put your finger on the trackpad, the position you touch represents the position of your mouse cursor on the screen. So any motion you make (up, down, left, or right) moves the position of the mouse cursor on the screen in the same direction relative to its starting position. If you reached the vertical position you desired, and then wanted to move horizontally, you could pick your finger up, then feel for either a horizontally placed rubber band, or else move your finger down from the top right or left corner at the top of the Magic Trackpad to the smooth edge (e.g., start of the active trackpad region), then run your finger to the left or right along that edge (for horizontal motion), or else use the position of a vertically placed rubber band (e.g. find the position of the elastic band at the top of the Trackpad where it's inactive, then move your finger vertically down into the active area of the Trackpad using the rubber band as a guide on either the right or left side of your finger for precise vertical motion. The action of the Mouse Keys Universal Access feature (for motion disabilities) is similar to the Trackpad model of navigation, but uses the numeric keypad, and moves in only 1 pixel increments. When you enable Mouse Keys, the central key (which is number "5") of the 3 by 3 numeric keypad is the current position of the mouse. Each press of a key above ("8"), below ("2"), to the left ("4"), or right ("6") of the central key moves the cursor in that direction by 1 pixel, and in a straight line. (The diagonal combinations also work with "7" for up and to the left, "9" for up and to the right, "1" for down and to the left, and "3" for down and to the right). What I'd like is for Mouse Keys type motion but with pixel increments (10, 50, etc.) that could be set by the user, or perhaps variably adjusted by a keyboard gesture to move from coarse to fine intervals. Anyway, just some thoughts and suggestions. Let us know how this works out. Cheers, Esther From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Fri Jan 21 21:13:02 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:13:02 +0000 Subject: Using the magic trackpad with trackpad commander disabled In-Reply-To: <6F3ED56F-B7FB-4682-9783-6859A68096C2@mac.com> References: <7CAD4856-DE46-48AC-9450-506ABB48144F@hopewell.org.uk> <801547C9-1301-4CFE-AF9C-0B61ACF08CBA@me.com> <9D875F48-AFB7-4752-95B8-B28C873478EA@hopewell.org.uk> <6F3ED56F-B7FB-4682-9783-6859A68096C2@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Esther! I think that idea of a multi change control for the pixels is a great one! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:02, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > You wrote: > >> Hi Brian, >> Many thanks thats very helpful and the gearing is now much better. >> Is there any way to lock the trackpad so that approximately horizontal finger movements become precisely horizontal and approximately vertical finger movements become precisely vertical? > > I don't think there's any way to lock the trackpad so that approximately horizontal finger movements become precisely horizontal, but I think that if your mouse cursor is positioned at the edge of the screen, you won't be able to move it beyond that edge with the Trackpad. So, for example, if your cursor is at the top of the screen in the status bar menu, and you move your finger on the Trackpad from right to left, but angling slightly upward as you move, the upward component of motion will be ignored because you can't move the mouse cursor position off the screen and past the top edge with your navigation. > > Alternatively, have you thought of just wrapping rubber bands around your Magic Trackpad to guide your motion either horizontally or vertically? Or maybe you can use the top edge of the smooth section of the Magic Trackpad to give you a reference for a precise horizontal line? > > I believe the way the TrackPad navigation works is that when you put your finger on the trackpad, the position you touch represents the position of your mouse cursor on the screen. So any motion you make (up, down, left, or right) moves the position of the mouse cursor on the screen in the same direction relative to its starting position. If you reached the vertical position you desired, and then wanted to move horizontally, you could pick your finger up, then feel for either a horizontally placed rubber band, or else move your finger down from the top right or left corner at the top of the Magic Trackpad to the smooth edge (e.g., start of the active trackpad region), then run your finger to the left or right along that edge (for horizontal motion), or else use the position of a vertically placed rubber band (e.g. find the position of the elastic band at the top of the Trackpad where it's inactive, then move your finger vertically down into the active area of the Trackpad u > sing the rubber band as a guide on either the right or left side of your finger for precise vertical motion. > > The action of the Mouse Keys Universal Access feature (for motion disabilities) is similar to the Trackpad model of navigation, but uses the numeric keypad, and moves in only 1 pixel increments. When you enable Mouse Keys, the central key (which is number "5") of the 3 by 3 numeric keypad is the current position of the mouse. Each press of a key above ("8"), below ("2"), to the left ("4"), or right ("6") of the central key moves the cursor in that direction by 1 pixel, and in a straight line. (The diagonal combinations also work with "7" for up and to the left, "9" for up and to the right, "1" for down and to the left, and "3" for down and to the right). What I'd like is for Mouse Keys type motion but with pixel increments (10, 50, etc.) that could be set by the user, or perhaps variably adjusted by a keyboard gesture to move from coarse to fine intervals. > > Anyway, just some thoughts and suggestions. Let us know how this works out. > > Cheers, > > Esther > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 21 21:25:34 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:25:34 +0000 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. > > S > > On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: > >> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >> >> Tom Sullivan >> profhero1 at mac.com >> >> >> >> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >> >> S >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> Tom Sullivan >> profhero1 at mac.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 21 21:44:30 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:44:30 +0000 Subject: Buying "Take Control books" In-Reply-To: <0F537F5A-68C6-430E-9A0B-1A3C284ACF02@me.com> References: <0F537F5A-68C6-430E-9A0B-1A3C284ACF02@me.com> Message-ID: Hello Simon On 21 Jan 2011, at 06:32, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > > ? I've just purchased "Take Control of Mac Os Backups" book in pdf format via the Mac-Access list - our very own list. Here is some feedback of my experience. > Feedback is always welcome, thank you. > ? First of all, it is great to have a book at such a good price. I had previously been buying some of the books in the series at much higher price. Secondly, I have found the process of buying using papal (provided one has an account with Paypal) very straight forward. I e-mailed Gordon and Lynne with the request for the book, and shortly I had a Paypal request e-mail back with the link included. I pressed the link, entered the necessary details and hey presto! I received an e-mail from Mac-Access with the download link. The books come in a zipped file but they unzip automatically to your download folder. > > Thanks Mac-Access for the swift, friendly, no hastle process. > That's our pleasure. We are very glad that you found it a pleasant experience. Again, I should remind users that we do not do this for profit of any kind; you pay what we pay, not a penny, (or a dime) more. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jan 21 21:49:49 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:49:49 +0000 Subject: Buying "Take Control books" In-Reply-To: References: <0F537F5A-68C6-430E-9A0B-1A3C284ACF02@me.com> Message-ID: Hello Rossy On 21 Jan 2011, at 08:19, rossy wrote: > ? i would like to confirm the same excellent esperience with mac access take control books . > it is so nice to have these services and i strongly recommend those books for all new swichers . they are easy and funny to read . > i read them on my iphone and mac in very easy way . > I would want to thank very much lynne and gordon for their unlimited kindness and promptness in helping me out with my internet and download problems . > than you very much and keep on this wonderful job . We are very grateful for your support, and for the positive feedback. Gordon, for reasons I won't go into here as it would be off-topic, is in need of a bit of a pick-me-up just now, so I'm sure the encouragement will be appreciated. He is still in the process of re-configuring the networks we use following the first stage in the move to different providers. The second stage come in February, more about that later. But Rossy; be assured we haven't forgotten about you and we will be in touch very soon. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 21:58:36 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:58:36 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> Yeah i performaed them with onyx, twice and my mail takes a bit to refresh in any folder and also my finder is still a bit slow. I'll run them again though just in case. S On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? > On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. >> >> S >> >> On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: >> >>> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >>> >>> Tom Sullivan >>> profhero1 at mac.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >>> >>> S >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> Tom Sullivan >>> profhero1 at mac.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 21 22:04:10 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:04:10 +0000 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> I don't remember where it is, but you can turn off all the fancy visual effects in the Finder. This should speed things up a bit. Try looking under Finder Preferences. Also regarding your mail, this may be to do with your mail provider. Take care :) James On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:58, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yeah i performaed them with onyx, twice and my mail takes a bit to refresh in any folder and also my finder is still a bit slow. I'll run them again though just in case. > > S > On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? >> On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. >>> >>> S >>> >>> On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: >>> >>>> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >>>> >>>> Tom Sullivan >>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >>>> >>>> S >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> Tom Sullivan >>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 22:07:19 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 17:07:19 -0500 Subject: Backing up multiple computers with Super Duper? Message-ID: <9F1548F6-39D5-4734-BA9F-0EFA7A6FBD2C@gmail.com> Hi, Is it possible for me to back up multiple computers onto the same hard drive with Super Duper, and if so, what settings do I need to change to go about this in a propper way? Courtney From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 22:11:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:11:53 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: No it started happening when my start up disk got full. I don't know what's going on here and it is driving me nuts. I'm fine until I come across a submect line and mail acts like it is wanting to crash. S On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > I don't remember where it is, but you can turn off all the fancy visual effects in the Finder. This should speed things up a bit. Try looking under Finder Preferences. Also regarding your mail, this may be to do with your mail provider. > > Take care :) > > James > On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:58, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Yeah i performaed them with onyx, twice and my mail takes a bit to refresh in any folder and also my finder is still a bit slow. I'll run them again though just in case. >> >> S >> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? >>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. >>>> >>>> S >>>> >>>> On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >>>>> >>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jan 22 00:08:31 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 00:08:31 +0000 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> Mail crashes on me as well. I've submitted a bug report to Apple. Have you tried Thunderbird? I've downlaoded it but not yet installed it. On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:11, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No it started happening when my start up disk got full. I don't know what's going on here and it is driving me nuts. I'm fine until I come across a submect line and mail acts like it is wanting to crash. > > S > On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> I don't remember where it is, but you can turn off all the fancy visual effects in the Finder. This should speed things up a bit. Try looking under Finder Preferences. Also regarding your mail, this may be to do with your mail provider. >> >> Take care :) >> >> James >> On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:58, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Yeah i performaed them with onyx, twice and my mail takes a bit to refresh in any folder and also my finder is still a bit slow. I'll run them again though just in case. >>> >>> S >>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? >>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> >>>>> On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 22 03:12:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:12:58 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <84439A16-AA8C-4DB3-AA1D-1C333A9AA823@gmail.com> Actually what's hapening is this. when I go in to the finder and try and move by colomn or to another one mail slows until I start arrowing again. I tried this with the voice over voices and the heather voices but I believe all of this started when I had about 4 gigs free. Ihave over 60 now or maybe it's 50 but what ever it should still defrag lol. I'm not explaining this right at all. Here is a mini recording of what happens. it is very odd. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/mac_really_slow.m4a Hopefully the link is live. it is only a 1 mb file. S On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:08 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Mail crashes on me as well. I've submitted a bug report to Apple. Have you tried Thunderbird? I've downlaoded it but not yet installed it. > On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:11, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No it started happening when my start up disk got full. I don't know what's going on here and it is driving me nuts. I'm fine until I come across a submect line and mail acts like it is wanting to crash. >> >> S >> On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> I don't remember where it is, but you can turn off all the fancy visual effects in the Finder. This should speed things up a bit. Try looking under Finder Preferences. Also regarding your mail, this may be to do with your mail provider. >>> >>> Take care :) >>> >>> James >>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:58, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah i performaed them with onyx, twice and my mail takes a bit to refresh in any folder and also my finder is still a bit slow. I'll run them again though just in case. >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? >>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From simoncavendish at me.com Sat Jan 22 07:02:43 2011 From: simoncavendish at me.com (simoncavendish at me.com) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:02:43 +0000 Subject: Using the magic trackpad with trackpad commander disabled In-Reply-To: <6F3ED56F-B7FB-4682-9783-6859A68096C2@mac.com> References: <7CAD4856-DE46-48AC-9450-506ABB48144F@hopewell.org.uk> <801547C9-1301-4CFE-AF9C-0B61ACF08CBA@me.com> <9D875F48-AFB7-4752-95B8-B28C873478EA@hopewell.org.uk> <6F3ED56F-B7FB-4682-9783-6859A68096C2@mac.com> Message-ID: <0D1AA979-ECED-48F3-AE0B-57D62C266172@me.com> Dear Esther, Would I be right in thinking that - once the mouse keys are enabled - you first need to know the coordinates of the elements you wish to find on the screen before you navigate to them with the mouse keys in order to perform an action on the said elements with the ;mouse buttons? Or is it that once you land on an element with the mouse keys Voiceover is going to announce it? If the former is true, I guess there is no way of finding out such an object on the screen without sighted assistance, and once it's found, one would have to note the coordinates for subsequent locations of the object provided the window is maximised to make the coordinates absolute? I think being able to use the iPlayer on the BBC website would be of great interest. I've not used mouse keys before and only now am I beginning to understand their potential. Thanks for your continuing support, listers. Simon On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:02, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > You wrote: > >> Hi Brian, >> Many thanks thats very helpful and the gearing is now much better. >> Is there any way to lock the trackpad so that approximately horizontal finger movements become precisely horizontal and approximately vertical finger movements become precisely vertical? > > I don't think there's any way to lock the trackpad so that approximately horizontal finger movements become precisely horizontal, but I think that if your mouse cursor is positioned at the edge of the screen, you won't be able to move it beyond that edge with the Trackpad. So, for example, if your cursor is at the top of the screen in the status bar menu, and you move your finger on the Trackpad from right to left, but angling slightly upward as you move, the upward component of motion will be ignored because you can't move the mouse cursor position off the screen and past the top edge with your navigation. > > Alternatively, have you thought of just wrapping rubber bands around your Magic Trackpad to guide your motion either horizontally or vertically? Or maybe you can use the top edge of the smooth section of the Magic Trackpad to give you a reference for a precise horizontal line? > > I believe the way the TrackPad navigation works is that when you put your finger on the trackpad, the position you touch represents the position of your mouse cursor on the screen. So any motion you make (up, down, left, or right) moves the position of the mouse cursor on the screen in the same direction relative to its starting position. If you reached the vertical position you desired, and then wanted to move horizontally, you could pick your finger up, then feel for either a horizontally placed rubber band, or else move your finger down from the top right or left corner at the top of the Magic Trackpad to the smooth edge (e.g., start of the active trackpad region), then run your finger to the left or right along that edge (for horizontal motion), or else use the position of a vertically placed rubber band (e.g. find the position of the elastic band at the top of the Trackpad where it's inactive, then move your finger vertically down into the active area of the Trackpad u > sing the rubber band as a guide on either the right or left side of your finger for precise vertical motion. > > The action of the Mouse Keys Universal Access feature (for motion disabilities) is similar to the Trackpad model of navigation, but uses the numeric keypad, and moves in only 1 pixel increments. When you enable Mouse Keys, the central key (which is number "5") of the 3 by 3 numeric keypad is the current position of the mouse. Each press of a key above ("8"), below ("2"), to the left ("4"), or right ("6") of the central key moves the cursor in that direction by 1 pixel, and in a straight line. (The diagonal combinations also work with "7" for up and to the left, "9" for up and to the right, "1" for down and to the left, and "3" for down and to the right). What I'd like is for Mouse Keys type motion but with pixel increments (10, 50, etc.) that could be set by the user, or perhaps variably adjusted by a keyboard gesture to move from coarse to fine intervals. > > Anyway, just some thoughts and suggestions. Let us know how this works out. > > Cheers, > > Esther > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Jan 22 14:01:33 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:01:33 +0000 Subject: playing dvds Message-ID: <4d3ae30d.06ead80a.6844.0fa3@mx.google.com> when playing dvds on the mac, the dvd player first seems to ask for a region. how do i make sure i have got the correct region? also how do you change it if you have maybe inadvertently picked the incorrect region? i ask because i accidentally hit enter when it asked for a region and i am not sure if it selected the incorrect one by mistake. From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Jan 22 14:34:53 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:34:53 +0000 Subject: playing dvds In-Reply-To: <4d3ae30d.06ead80a.6844.0fa3@mx.google.com> References: <4d3ae30d.06ead80a.6844.0fa3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Region 1 I think is selected by default which is the correct one for the USA, and region 2 is for the UK and so on. You have 10 attempts to select the correct region. After that you will be locked into the 10th region you selected. Can't believe in this day and age you can't set it to region 0. I hope Apple make the DVD player more accessible in the next OS upgrade. On 22 Jan 2011, at 14:01, michael weaver wrote: > when playing dvds on the mac, the dvd player first seems to ask for a region. > how do i make sure i have got the correct region? > also how do you change it if you have maybe inadvertently picked the incorrect region? > i ask because i accidentally hit enter when it asked for a region and i am not sure if it selected the incorrect one by mistake. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Jan 22 14:54:54 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:54:54 +0000 Subject: dvds and the mac Message-ID: <4d3aef8e.1ebdd80a.50b4.0b48@mx.google.com> i may have sorted out my problem with the mac and dvds. i put in the dvd for "pyramids of mars" and was told that the region i had selected wouldn't play the film and with a bit of luck although the graphics are not well labelled i think i managed to change it to region 2 for uk. hopefully now i have chosen the correct region for a uk disk which the doctor who films should be, hopefully i will now have set the region rather than have to go through it all for about 5 times and find i have locked it on the wrong region. From krbarry at gmail.com Sat Jan 22 14:54:57 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:54:57 -0500 Subject: refurbed mac Pro I saw Message-ID: <4d3aefbc.5192e60a.12f3.ffffa5ef@mx.google.com> FWIW, Buy.com here in the U.s. has a refurbed Mac Pro with dual quad core 2.66 ghz Zeon processors, 4 gb of ram, 250 gb hd, 512mb video card running 10.4 for $900. Kevin Barry If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something. From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Jan 22 15:12:14 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:12:14 -0600 Subject: playing dvds In-Reply-To: <4d3ae30d.06ead80a.6844.0fa3@mx.google.com> References: <4d3ae30d.06ead80a.6844.0fa3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: The region is probably correct. When you insert a DVD the first time, it asks if you want to set the region, so just pressing enter is fine. Honestly I think the whole region thing is silly, but it's there thanks to the film industry and a bunch of nonsense politics. On Jan 22, 2011, at 8:01 AM, michael weaver wrote: > when playing dvds on the mac, the dvd player first seems to ask for a region. > how do i make sure i have got the correct region? > also how do you change it if you have maybe inadvertently picked the incorrect region? > i ask because i accidentally hit enter when it asked for a region and i am not sure if it selected the incorrect one by mistake. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Jan 22 15:54:09 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:54:09 +0000 Subject: macbook and the battery level Message-ID: <4d3afd71.5320e30a.27be.4de9@mx.google.com> how do i check the battery level of the macbook pro or get audible feedback to indicate that my battery is running low? From helianthe at mac-access.net Sat Jan 22 16:33:49 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:33:49 +0100 Subject: macbook and the battery level In-Reply-To: <4d3afd71.5320e30a.27be.4de9@mx.google.com> References: <4d3afd71.5320e30a.27be.4de9@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <38518586-6A0D-46F0-96F9-D4B2A9C7F902@mac-access.net> Hi Michael, Ok..press ctrl+F8 to get to the time machine menue then press your right arrow key to get to the battery menu. Once you get there, you will hear what your battery level is and you should be good to go Hope this helps, LYn & Twinny On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:54 PM, michael weaver wrote: > how do i check the battery level of the macbook pro or get audible feedback to indicate that my battery is running low? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Jan 22 16:51:19 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:51:19 +0000 Subject: battery status on the macbook Message-ID: <4d3b0ad7.4902d90a.4b51.16cd@mx.google.com> i tried doing a ctrl plus f8 and the macbook either beeps at me or keeps running i-tunes. i did an ctrl options d and went to the time machine menu but it went to the time machine setup and said that i had not set a location for time machine which i haven't as i don't have backup media to be able to use that app so it wouldn't let me arrow to the battery menu from there. From helianthe at mac-access.net Sat Jan 22 16:58:34 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:58:34 +0100 Subject: battery status on the macbook In-Reply-To: <4d3b0ad7.4902d90a.4b51.16cd@mx.google.com> References: <4d3b0ad7.4902d90a.4b51.16cd@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <50F9FA88-013E-42B9-9907-C5D5496EE01A@mac-access.net> Michael, Try ctrl+option m twice to get to the time machine menu and then press your right arrow key 4 times to get to the battery menu. If this does not work for you, I hope someone more experienced will answer because I am a fairly new mac user myself...well it's been only a year since I've switched over and there are still lots of things I need to learn myself. Try this anyway and if this does not do the job for you, then I will let someone else answer that. On my mac book pro, ctrl+f8 works for me. Take care, Lyn & Twinny On Jan 22, 2011, at 5:51 PM, michael weaver wrote: > i tried doing a ctrl plus f8 and the macbook either beeps at me or keeps running i-tunes. > i did an ctrl options d and went to the time machine menu but it went to the time machine setup and said that i had not set a location for time machine which i haven't as i don't have backup media to be able to use that app so it wouldn't let me arrow to the battery menu from there. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Jan 22 17:10:41 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:10:41 +0000 Subject: battery status on the macbook Message-ID: <4d3b0f61.cdace30a.6914.6326@mx.google.com> hi! thanks. the ctrl options m twice does work. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Lyn & Twinny To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Date sent: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:58:34 +0100 >Subject: Re: battery status on the macbook >Michael, >Try ctrl+option m twice to get to the time machine menu and then press your right arrow key 4 times to get to the battery menu. If this does not work for you, I hope someone more experienced will answer because I am a fairly new mac user myself...well it's been only a year since I've switched over and there are still lots of things I need to learn myself. Try this anyway and if this does not do the job for you, then I will let someone else answer that. On my mac book pro, ctrl+f8 works for me. >Take care, >Lyn & Twinny >On Jan 22, 2011, at 5:51 PM, michael weaver wrote: >> i tried doing a ctrl plus f8 and the macbook either beeps at me or keeps running i-tunes. >> i did an ctrl options d and went to the time machine menu but it went to the time machine setup and said that i had not set a location for time machine which i haven't as i don't have backup media to be able to use that app so it wouldn't let me arrow to the battery menu from there. >> _______________________________________________ >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> ********** >You can contact me in the following ways: >email: >helianthe at mac-access.net >msn: >lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com >skype: >keanemaniac >facebook: >www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 >I am now also on twitter: >www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 >Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. >_______________________________________________ >To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > References: <9F1548F6-39D5-4734-BA9F-0EFA7A6FBD2C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2C7C6CC2-0895-4EED-BE2E-88A257E4201C@mac-access.net> You need to have multiple partitions on the same physical destination drive to do this. But I don't see why it shouldn't be possible. Gordon On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:07, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Is it possible for me to back up multiple computers onto the same hard drive with Super Duper, and if so, what settings do I need to change to go about this in a propper way? > Courtney > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Jan 22 20:43:38 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:43:38 -0500 Subject: Backing up multiple computers with Super Duper? In-Reply-To: <2C7C6CC2-0895-4EED-BE2E-88A257E4201C@mac-access.net> References: <9F1548F6-39D5-4734-BA9F-0EFA7A6FBD2C@gmail.com> <2C7C6CC2-0895-4EED-BE2E-88A257E4201C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi, How do you create multiple partitions on the external hard drive? Courtney On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > You need to have multiple partitions on the same physical destination drive to do this. > > But I don't see why it shouldn't be possible. > > Gordon > > On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:07, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> Is it possible for me to back up multiple computers onto the same hard drive with Super Duper, and if so, what settings do I need to change to go about this in a propper way? >> Courtney >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 22 21:13:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:13:15 -0800 Subject: auto correct In-Reply-To: <5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a> <532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com> <5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <2F63C39F-4CC3-4ED8-B378-E1C5B021CBB8@gmail.com> Well I am trying autocorrect with some nasty results. Infact I am using it now. I only see one choice all he time and usually that is not the word I want On 21/01/2011, at 5:32, "Andrea Breier" wrote: > I don't know if I am going to explain this just right, but here goes. From what I remember, he said that if you are typing a word and it does the autocorrect on your word, trying to change it to what it assumes it should be. Just back space and retype from the point where it auto corrected. It will try to put it back to it's correction selection then you delete back and fix it two more times. He said from this point the auto correction should auto correct to the word you kept changing it to. I guess the auto correct is intuitive and it will try to customize it's self to what the user needs. I thought it was good to know, but haven't done anything with it yet, so I can't say as to how successful it is. > Hugs, Andrea M Breier > > Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:00 PM > Subject: Re: auto correct > > >> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >> >> S >> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >> >>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>> >>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>> Subject: auto correct >>> >>> >>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>> >>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>> Is this possible? >>>> >>>> Christy >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 22 21:16:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:16:06 -0800 Subject: Backing up multiple computers with Super Duper? In-Reply-To: References: <9F1548F6-39D5-4734-BA9F-0EFA7A6FBD2C@gmail.com> <2C7C6CC2-0895-4EED-BE2E-88A257E4201C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <65D58CEF-221E-48F8-8A8E-AC887FF81F74@gmail.com> Hello. You do it via disk utility The process is a bit tough but it is quite doable. On 22/01/2011, at 12:43, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > How do you create multiple partitions on the external hard drive? > Courtney > > On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> You need to have multiple partitions on the same physical destination drive to do this. >> >> But I don't see why it shouldn't be possible. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:07, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Is it possible for me to back up multiple computers onto the same hard drive with Super Duper, and if so, what settings do I need to change to go about this in a propper way? >>> Courtney >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Jan 22 21:29:42 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:29:42 -0600 Subject: macbook and the battery level In-Reply-To: <4d3afd71.5320e30a.27be.4de9@mx.google.com> References: <4d3afd71.5320e30a.27be.4de9@mx.google.com> Message-ID: The best way to check this is to go to the status menus, the battery level is displayed there, you can configure it to display the time remaining of the percentage, I have mine configured for time remaining, then if I want to see the percentage, I just open the menu. On Jan 22, 2011, at 9:54 AM, michael weaver wrote: > how do i check the battery level of the macbook pro or get audible feedback to indicate that my battery is running low? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From abreier at kc.rr.com Sat Jan 22 21:48:23 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:48:23 -0600 Subject: auto correct References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a> <2F63C39F-4CC3-4ED8-B378-E1C5B021CBB8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Here is a posts from the list that I put back and just now dug up, just for you and anyone else that wants to read it. Hope it is helpful. Auto correction When I am typing while texting the predictive typing kicks in. What are the steps to ignore or accept the corrected spelling? thanks. To accept the suggested word, just press spacebar. To reject it, if it comes in your way is to turn the rotor to "auto correction", swipe up or down to select the word you would like to reject and double tap it. Once you double tap, Voiceover annoyingly says "button" which confused me initially. I only wish the auto correction feature offered more practical suggestions. Some of the suggestions are simply ridiculous Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:13 PM Subject: Re: auto correct > Well I am trying autocorrect with some nasty results. Infact I am using it > now. I only see one choice all he time and usually that is not the word I > want > > > On 21/01/2011, at 5:32, "Andrea Breier" wrote: > >> I don't know if I am going to explain this just right, but here goes. >> From what I remember, he said that if you are typing a word and it does >> the autocorrect on your word, trying to change it to what it assumes it >> should be. Just back space and retype from the point where it auto >> corrected. It will try to put it back to it's correction selection then >> you delete back and fix it two more times. He said from this point the >> auto correction should auto correct to the word you kept changing it to. >> I guess the auto correct is intuitive and it will try to customize it's >> self to what the user needs. I thought it was good to know, but haven't >> done anything with it yet, so I can't say as to how successful it is. >> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >> >> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of >> yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the >> rest to God >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:00 PM >> Subject: Re: auto correct >> >> >>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm >>> confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht >>> my poor head. lol! >>> >>> S >>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>> >>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times >>>> and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it >>>> thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's >>>> self. >>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>> >>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of >>>> yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave >>>> the rest to God >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>> >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>> Subject: auto correct >>>> >>>> >>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can >>>>> save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>> >>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it >>>>> doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I >>>>> don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the >>>>> entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, >>>>> just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>> Is this possible? >>>>> >>>>> Christy >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 22 21:50:09 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:50:09 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <64B3CE88-B545-49C7-8C26-B78ED28000CD@gmail.com> Well I woke up this morning and after having it do a clean up with onyx and a permitions repair everythign is still as slow as mud even mail. When I move from colomn to colomn in either finder or mail everythign is very very slow. If the recroding I did got through you will sort of see what I mean. I have 4 gigs of ram and about 60 gigs free by now and still no luck. What now? I can't have thi happening as saving documents is becoming a drag as the finder is even slow then in the save as dialogues. I"m starting to pull my hair out on this and by the time school starts I'll have no hair left. lol! Can anyone advise on what to do next, apart from reinstalling? On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:08 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Mail crashes on me as well. I've submitted a bug report to Apple. Have you tried Thunderbird? I've downlaoded it but not yet installed it. > On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:11, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No it started happening when my start up disk got full. I don't know what's going on here and it is driving me nuts. I'm fine until I come across a submect line and mail acts like it is wanting to crash. >> >> S >> On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> I don't remember where it is, but you can turn off all the fancy visual effects in the Finder. This should speed things up a bit. Try looking under Finder Preferences. Also regarding your mail, this may be to do with your mail provider. >>> >>> Take care :) >>> >>> James >>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:58, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah i performaed them with onyx, twice and my mail takes a bit to refresh in any folder and also my finder is still a bit slow. I'll run them again though just in case. >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? >>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 22 21:51:28 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:51:28 -0800 Subject: auto correct In-Reply-To: References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a> <2F63C39F-4CC3-4ED8-B378-E1C5B021CBB8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah usually though when I swipe up and down there is only one choice so how do I select if there is more then one choice and why will it mess up my spelling sometimes? *growl* On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: > Here is a posts from the list that I put back and just now dug up, just for you and anyone else that wants to read it. Hope it is helpful. > > Auto correction > > > > When I am typing while texting the predictive typing kicks in. What are the steps to ignore or accept the corrected spelling? thanks. > > > > To accept the suggested word, just press spacebar. > > To reject it, if it comes in your way is to turn the rotor to > "auto correction", swipe up or down to select the word you would like > to reject and double tap it. Once you double tap, Voiceover annoyingly > says "button" which confused me initially. > > I only wish the auto correction feature offered more practical > suggestions. Some of the suggestions are simply ridiculous > > > > Hugs, Andrea M Breier > > Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: auto correct > > >> Well I am trying autocorrect with some nasty results. Infact I am using it now. I only see one choice all he time and usually that is not the word I want >> >> >> On 21/01/2011, at 5:32, "Andrea Breier" wrote: >> >>> I don't know if I am going to explain this just right, but here goes. From what I remember, he said that if you are typing a word and it does the autocorrect on your word, trying to change it to what it assumes it should be. Just back space and retype from the point where it auto corrected. It will try to put it back to it's correction selection then you delete back and fix it two more times. He said from this point the auto correction should auto correct to the word you kept changing it to. I guess the auto correct is intuitive and it will try to customize it's self to what the user needs. I thought it was good to know, but haven't done anything with it yet, so I can't say as to how successful it is. >>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>> >>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:00 PM >>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>> >>> >>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>> >>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>> >>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>> >>>>>> Christy >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Jan 22 22:04:51 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:04:51 -0500 Subject: Backing up multiple computers with Super Duper? In-Reply-To: <65D58CEF-221E-48F8-8A8E-AC887FF81F74@gmail.com> References: <9F1548F6-39D5-4734-BA9F-0EFA7A6FBD2C@gmail.com> <2C7C6CC2-0895-4EED-BE2E-88A257E4201C@mac-access.net> <65D58CEF-221E-48F8-8A8E-AC887FF81F74@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2E6301BE-4A29-4533-8026-AF617EFFBC66@gmail.com> Hi, I see in disc utility where the partition is, but how do you adjust the size that you need? For example, I want one partition to be 250.0 gb, the second one to be 160.00 GB, and the third to be 64 gb, how can I set that? Courtney On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. You do it via disk utility The process is a bit tough but it is quite doable. > > On 22/01/2011, at 12:43, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> How do you create multiple partitions on the external hard drive? >> Courtney >> >> On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> You need to have multiple partitions on the same physical destination drive to do this. >>> >>> But I don't see why it shouldn't be possible. >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:07, Courtney Curran wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Is it possible for me to back up multiple computers onto the same hard drive with Super Duper, and if so, what settings do I need to change to go about this in a propper way? >>>> Courtney >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From abreier at kc.rr.com Sat Jan 22 22:37:51 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:37:51 -0600 Subject: auto correct References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a><2F63C39F-4CC3-4ED8-B378-E1C5B021CBB8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5BCF5FF5A53C481698DF3FE857D8A931@andrea78cdd59a> Use the rotor to get to auto selection and then flick up or down to look at the different choices. Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: auto correct > Yeah usually though when I swipe up and down there is only one choice so > how do I select if there is more then one choice and why will it mess up > my spelling sometimes? *growl* > On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: > >> Here is a posts from the list that I put back and just now dug up, just >> for you and anyone else that wants to read it. Hope it is helpful. >> >> Auto correction >> >> >> >> When I am typing while texting the predictive typing kicks in. What are >> the steps to ignore or accept the corrected spelling? thanks. >> >> >> >> To accept the suggested word, just press spacebar. >> >> To reject it, if it comes in your way is to turn the rotor to >> "auto correction", swipe up or down to select the word you would like >> to reject and double tap it. Once you double tap, Voiceover annoyingly >> says "button" which confused me initially. >> >> I only wish the auto correction feature offered more practical >> suggestions. Some of the suggestions are simply ridiculous >> >> >> >> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >> >> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of >> yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the >> rest to God >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:13 PM >> Subject: Re: auto correct >> >> >>> Well I am trying autocorrect with some nasty results. Infact I am using >>> it now. I only see one choice all he time and usually that is not the >>> word I want >>> >>> >>> On 21/01/2011, at 5:32, "Andrea Breier" wrote: >>> >>>> I don't know if I am going to explain this just right, but here goes. >>>> From what I remember, he said that if you are typing a word and it does >>>> the autocorrect on your word, trying to change it to what it assumes it >>>> should be. Just back space and retype from the point where it auto >>>> corrected. It will try to put it back to it's correction selection >>>> then you delete back and fix it two more times. He said from this point >>>> the auto correction should auto correct to the word you kept changing >>>> it to. I guess the auto correct is intuitive and it will try to >>>> customize it's self to what the user needs. I thought it was good to >>>> know, but haven't done anything with it yet, so I can't say as to how >>>> successful it is. >>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>> >>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of >>>> yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave >>>> the rest to God >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:00 PM >>>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>>> >>>> >>>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? >>>>> I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do >>>>> wiht my poor head. lol! >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three >>>>>> times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what >>>>>> it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct >>>>>> it's self. >>>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>>> >>>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of >>>>>> yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave >>>>>> the rest to God >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>>> >>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it >>>>>>> can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it >>>>>>> doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I >>>>>>> don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the >>>>>>> entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, >>>>>>> just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Christy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted >>>>>>> to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>>>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Jan 22 23:24:36 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:24:36 -1000 Subject: Using the magic trackpad with trackpad commander disabled In-Reply-To: <0D1AA979-ECED-48F3-AE0B-57D62C266172@me.com> References: <7CAD4856-DE46-48AC-9450-506ABB48144F@hopewell.org.uk> <801547C9-1301-4CFE-AF9C-0B61ACF08CBA@me.com> <9D875F48-AFB7-4752-95B8-B28C873478EA@hopewell.org.uk> <6F3ED56F-B7FB-4682-9783-6859A68096C2@mac.com> <0D1AA979-ECED-48F3-AE0B-57D62C266172@me.com> Message-ID: <679BD262-5954-4468-B879-BB92DF99F37F@mac.com> Dear Simon, There are actually two models for moving your mouse cursor: one that is keyboard based with Mouse Keys and a second that uses your Trackpad. In answer to the question behind your query, I think you may be able to determine the position of some elements without sighted assistance using either model by using the fact that VoiceOver (via the VO+F5 command) can identify what is under the mouse, and also its location (with successive presses of the F5 key after the first press -- e.g., VO+F5+F5, and VO+F5+F5+F5). I'm not sure, however, whether the player controls get exposed and identified this way, because I can't directly check the page content in the case of TV episodes -- this is content that gets blocked to users outside of the UK. Whether you will be able to set up your controls to access the necessary areas of the screen without sighted help depends on how easy it is to locate the player controls with either Mouse Keys or the Trackpad, since you can't search the entire screen. However, it may be possible for you to either use the information provided by someone who does have sighted assistance when accessing this page (like Paul) to set this up for yourself. Let me give a couple of examples to help explain this. One possibility is that the screen positions for controls that Paul is investigating will be usable more generally, so that the positions that he maps out work for other VoiceOver users. Another possibility is that you can use information that describes the location of controls in a way that lets you determine control positions on your own screen. For example, if someone tells me that the controls for playing an audiobook sample are beside (e.g., just to the right) of where the text that labels "Sample" appears for each audiobook on the Audible.com web page, and "Sample" is a control that VoiceOver can navigate to, then I can find the flash player control to play the sample and click it by moving the mouse cursor to the right of the "Sample" control in fixed blocks (I originally used 10 pixel intervals), and checking with VO+F5 and VO+F5+F5 until VoiceOver told me the player control was under the mouse, and then I could click the trackpad to play the sample. (Thankfully, I don't have to do this any more, since the Click to Flash Safari extension can now be set up on the U.S. Audible.com site to let VoiceOver navigate to the controls, since I think Audible has shifted to HTML5.) But the point is, where some of these offsets are standardized (i.e., you only have to make the position offset or absolute position determination once), and where VoiceOver will announce when your cursor on top of a control (even if the control is not exposed to VoiceOver for navigation without your independent movement of the cursor), it's possible to implement these kinds of solutions. Even if the information is "the controls are in the bottom left corner of the player window", it may be possible to locate the coordinates. You do not have to move your cursor directly onto a control, or even in a straight line to locate this, as long as you get spoken feedback. For example, if I want to map the location of a flash player rectangle in the middle of a web page, I can figuratively run my finger down anywhere in the center of the screen (to use an analogy from the iPad and iPhone touch screens) to find the top and bottom edges. My path of motion doesn't have to be straight vertical or horizontal -- if I am querying the y position with VoiceOver, all I need to know is when I move from being "on" to "off" the window. It doesn't matter whether my trackpad control of cursor motion cuts the window exactly in the middle of the screen or not. Remember, in this scheme I will be using a script to do the actual cursor motion once I determine where the controls are. And I don't have to determine these positions in one motion. I could first locate the bottom left corner of the player window by using the trackpad to move my cursor vertically with a cut through the center of the screen to determine the top (y top pixel) and bottom (y bottom pixel) values for the rectangle. Then I could use my trackpad to move my mouse cursor to cut horizontally across the center of the screen. Again, I don't need to move in a straight line to determine the left and right edges of the player window, I just need to be able to use VoiceOver to tell me when I am "on" or "off" the control, and I can determine the left (x left pixel) and right (x right pixel) values for the sides of the window. Once I determine the location in pixel coordinates of the bottom left corner of the window I can move the mouse cursor there (in as many steps as I need, moving with the trackpad and checking how close I am to where I want to go with VoiceOver). Then I can move right from the corner to locate different player controls. Remember that this is a one-time setup, and that after I map out positions of controls and test that they work (by clicking the mouse or trackpad at these locations), I will be planning to use a script to move the mouse cursor directly to these positions and click -- I don't need to remember the values or ever navigate this way again, hopefully. Anyway, thinking out how to explain this took longer than the experiment! I took a break to experiment with the way to navigate to the "inaccessible" status menu bar keys. Will post this separately. Simon, very nice to find you on list. I think I was traveling, and with very limited internet access when you re-joined. Cheers, Esther On Jan 21, 2011, at 21:02, simoncavendish at me.com wrote: > Dear Esther, > > Would I be right in thinking that - once the mouse keys are enabled - you first need to know the coordinates of the elements you wish to find on the screen before you navigate to them with the mouse keys in order to perform an action on the said elements with the ;mouse buttons? Or is it that once you land on an element with the mouse keys Voiceover is going to announce it? > If the former is true, I guess there is no way of finding out such an object on the screen without sighted assistance, and once it's found, one would have to note the coordinates for subsequent locations of the object provided the window is maximised to make the coordinates absolute? > > I think being able to use the iPlayer on the BBC website would be of great interest. I've not used mouse keys before and only now am I beginning to understand their potential. > > Thanks for your continuing support, listers. > > Simon > On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:02, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> You wrote: >> >>> Hi Brian, >>> Many thanks thats very helpful and the gearing is now much better. >>> Is there any way to lock the trackpad so that approximately horizontal finger movements become precisely horizontal and approximately vertical finger movements become precisely vertical? >> >> I don't think there's any way to lock the trackpad so that approximately horizontal finger movements become precisely horizontal, but I think that if your mouse cursor is positioned at the edge of the screen, you won't be able to move it beyond that edge with the Trackpad. So, for example, if your cursor is at the top of the screen in the status bar menu, and you move your finger on the Trackpad from right to left, but angling slightly upward as you move, the upward component of motion will be ignored because you can't move the mouse cursor position off the screen and past the top edge with your navigation. >> >> Alternatively, have you thought of just wrapping rubber bands around your Magic Trackpad to guide your motion either horizontally or vertically? Or maybe you can use the top edge of the smooth section of the Magic Trackpad to give you a reference for a precise horizontal line? >> >> I believe the way the TrackPad navigation works is that when you put your finger on the trackpad, the position you touch represents the position of your mouse cursor on the screen. So any motion you make (up, down, left, or right) moves the position of the mouse cursor on the screen in the same direction relative to its starting position. If you reached the vertical position you desired, and then wanted to move horizontally, you could pick your finger up, then feel for either a horizontally placed rubber band, or else move your finger down from the top right or left corner at the top of the Magic Trackpad to the smooth edge (e.g., start of the active trackpad region), then run your finger to the left or right along that edge (for horizontal motion), or else use the position of a vertically placed rubber band (e.g. find the position of the elastic band at the top of the Trackpad where it's inactive, then move your finger vertically down into the active area of the Trackpad > u >> sing the rubber band as a guide on either the right or left side of your finger for precise vertical motion. >> >> The action of the Mouse Keys Universal Access feature (for motion disabilities) is similar to the Trackpad model of navigation, but uses the numeric keypad, and moves in only 1 pixel increments. When you enable Mouse Keys, the central key (which is number "5") of the 3 by 3 numeric keypad is the current position of the mouse. Each press of a key above ("8"), below ("2"), to the left ("4"), or right ("6") of the central key moves the cursor in that direction by 1 pixel, and in a straight line. (The diagonal combinations also work with "7" for up and to the left, "9" for up and to the right, "1" for down and to the left, and "3" for down and to the right). What I'd like is for Mouse Keys type motion but with pixel increments (10, 50, etc.) that could be set by the user, or perhaps variably adjusted by a keyboard gesture to move from coarse to fine intervals. >> >> Anyway, just some thoughts and suggestions. Let us know how this works out. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 22 23:26:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:26:06 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> Well after a disk repair with my snl disk I am sad to report that my mail is still slow. not by much but going from column to column especially when expanding threads both big and small causes the mail busy message.. the finder is a bit slow but not by much as far as I can tell. What else can I do here? S On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:08 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Mail crashes on me as well. I've submitted a bug report to Apple. Have you tried Thunderbird? I've downloaded it but not yet installed it. > On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:11, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No it started happening when my start up disk got full. I don't know what's going on here and it is driving me nuts. I'm fine until I come across a submect line and mail acts like it is wanting to crash. >> >> S >> On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> I don't remember where it is, but you can turn off all the fancy visual effects in the Finder. This should speed things up a bit. Try looking under Finder Preferences. Also regarding your mail, this may be to do with your mail provider. >>> >>> Take care :) >>> >>> James >>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:58, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah i performaed them with onyx, twice and my mail takes a bit to refresh in any folder and also my finder is still a bit slow. I'll run them again though just in case. >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? >>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 22 23:23:41 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:23:41 -0800 Subject: auto correct In-Reply-To: <5BCF5FF5A53C481698DF3FE857D8A931@andrea78cdd59a> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><5A6C9F79D65E4C9EAEF9D33596FA1158@andrea78cdd59a><2F63C39F-4CC3-4ED8-B378-E1C5B021CBB8@gmail.com> <5BCF5FF5A53C481698DF3FE857D8A931@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <26ED311A-14C1-4325-81F8-2967C6AAC9E9@gmail.com> tha'ts the thing. there's only 1 choice as the rotor thing comes up automitically when I type. I'll try taht too though in case I am messing up someware. On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: > Use the rotor to get to auto selection and then flick up or down to look at the different choices. > Hugs, Andrea M Breier > > Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:51 PM > Subject: Re: auto correct > > >> Yeah usually though when I swipe up and down there is only one choice so how do I select if there is more then one choice and why will it mess up my spelling sometimes? *growl* >> On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >> >>> Here is a posts from the list that I put back and just now dug up, just for you and anyone else that wants to read it. Hope it is helpful. >>> >>> Auto correction >>> >>> >>> >>> When I am typing while texting the predictive typing kicks in. What are the steps to ignore or accept the corrected spelling? thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> To accept the suggested word, just press spacebar. >>> >>> To reject it, if it comes in your way is to turn the rotor to >>> "auto correction", swipe up or down to select the word you would like >>> to reject and double tap it. Once you double tap, Voiceover annoyingly >>> says "button" which confused me initially. >>> >>> I only wish the auto correction feature offered more practical >>> suggestions. Some of the suggestions are simply ridiculous >>> >>> >>> >>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>> >>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:13 PM >>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>> >>> >>>> Well I am trying autocorrect with some nasty results. Infact I am using it now. I only see one choice all he time and usually that is not the word I want >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21/01/2011, at 5:32, "Andrea Breier" wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't know if I am going to explain this just right, but here goes. From what I remember, he said that if you are typing a word and it does the autocorrect on your word, trying to change it to what it assumes it should be. Just back space and retype from the point where it auto corrected. It will try to put it back to it's correction selection then you delete back and fix it two more times. He said from this point the auto correction should auto correct to the word you kept changing it to. I guess the auto correct is intuitive and it will try to customize it's self to what the user needs. I thought it was good to know, but haven't done anything with it yet, so I can't say as to how successful it is. >>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>> >>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:00 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>>>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Christy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jan 22 23:40:05 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:40:05 +0000 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> Maybe you have corrupt preferences? Also, what voice are you using? Just as an aside, I've also found that Mail.app crashes quite regularly. I wonder if it has something to do with a lack of RAM or faulty RAM? Have you also tried resetting the PRAM? Take care James On 22 Jan 2011, at 23:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Well after a disk repair with my snl disk I am sad to report that my mail is still slow. not by much but going from column to column especially when expanding threads both big and small causes the mail busy message.. the finder is a bit slow but not by much as far as I can tell. What else can I do here? > > S > On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:08 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Mail crashes on me as well. I've submitted a bug report to Apple. Have you tried Thunderbird? I've downloaded it but not yet installed it. >> On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:11, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> No it started happening when my start up disk got full. I don't know what's going on here and it is driving me nuts. I'm fine until I come across a submect line and mail acts like it is wanting to crash. >>> >>> S >>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> I don't remember where it is, but you can turn off all the fancy visual effects in the Finder. This should speed things up a bit. Try looking under Finder Preferences. Also regarding your mail, this may be to do with your mail provider. >>>> >>>> Take care :) >>>> >>>> James >>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:58, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah i performaed them with onyx, twice and my mail takes a bit to refresh in any folder and also my finder is still a bit slow. I'll run them again though just in case. >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? >>>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 22 23:41:59 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:41:59 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I'm using alex and heather .it doesn't matter what voice I'm using.a nd I checked the prefs with onyx and all are ok. I forgot how to reset the other thing you metioned butt how do you do that and what does that to again? Thanks. On Jan 22, 2011, at 3:40 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Maybe you have corrupt preferences? Also, what voice are you using? Just as an aside, I've also found that Mail.app crashes quite regularly. I wonder if it has something to do with a lack of RAM or faulty RAM? > > Have you also tried resetting the PRAM? > Take care > James > On 22 Jan 2011, at 23:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Well after a disk repair with my snl disk I am sad to report that my mail is still slow. not by much but going from column to column especially when expanding threads both big and small causes the mail busy message.. the finder is a bit slow but not by much as far as I can tell. What else can I do here? >> >> S >> On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:08 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Mail crashes on me as well. I've submitted a bug report to Apple. Have you tried Thunderbird? I've downloaded it but not yet installed it. >>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:11, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> No it started happening when my start up disk got full. I don't know what's going on here and it is driving me nuts. I'm fine until I come across a submect line and mail acts like it is wanting to crash. >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't remember where it is, but you can turn off all the fancy visual effects in the Finder. This should speed things up a bit. Try looking under Finder Preferences. Also regarding your mail, this may be to do with your mail provider. >>>>> >>>>> Take care :) >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:58, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah i performaed them with onyx, twice and my mail takes a bit to refresh in any folder and also my finder is still a bit slow. I'll run them again though just in case. >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? >>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 23 00:05:11 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:05:11 +0000 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Sarah, Check out this article from Apple: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379 Take care James On 22 Jan 2011, at 23:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'm using alex and heather .it doesn't matter what voice I'm using.a nd I checked the prefs with onyx and all are ok. I forgot how to reset the other thing you metioned butt how do you do that and what does that to again? > > Thanks. > On Jan 22, 2011, at 3:40 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Maybe you have corrupt preferences? Also, what voice are you using? Just as an aside, I've also found that Mail.app crashes quite regularly. I wonder if it has something to do with a lack of RAM or faulty RAM? >> >> Have you also tried resetting the PRAM? >> Take care >> James >> On 22 Jan 2011, at 23:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Well after a disk repair with my snl disk I am sad to report that my mail is still slow. not by much but going from column to column especially when expanding threads both big and small causes the mail busy message.. the finder is a bit slow but not by much as far as I can tell. What else can I do here? >>> >>> S >>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:08 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Mail crashes on me as well. I've submitted a bug report to Apple. Have you tried Thunderbird? I've downloaded it but not yet installed it. >>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:11, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> No it started happening when my start up disk got full. I don't know what's going on here and it is driving me nuts. I'm fine until I come across a submect line and mail acts like it is wanting to crash. >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't remember where it is, but you can turn off all the fancy visual effects in the Finder. This should speed things up a bit. Try looking under Finder Preferences. Also regarding your mail, this may be to do with your mail provider. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care :) >>>>>> >>>>>> James >>>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:58, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah i performaed them with onyx, twice and my mail takes a bit to refresh in any folder and also my finder is still a bit slow. I'll run them again though just in case. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? >>>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 01:02:51 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:02:51 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5B178468-F2DE-43FC-BEE9-67450ADF0523@gmail.com> Well I tried it and so far no go. my finder was still slugish when I was viewing my desktop folder. Now i did notice taht I heard a lot of hard drive activity about 10 seconds after I heard the word finder from voice over but even when there is no hd activity I dunno what's going on. S On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:05 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Check out this article from Apple: > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379 > > Take care > James > On 22 Jan 2011, at 23:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'm using alex and heather .it doesn't matter what voice I'm using.a nd I checked the prefs with onyx and all are ok. I forgot how to reset the other thing you metioned butt how do you do that and what does that to again? >> >> Thanks. >> On Jan 22, 2011, at 3:40 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Maybe you have corrupt preferences? Also, what voice are you using? Just as an aside, I've also found that Mail.app crashes quite regularly. I wonder if it has something to do with a lack of RAM or faulty RAM? >>> >>> Have you also tried resetting the PRAM? >>> Take care >>> James >>> On 22 Jan 2011, at 23:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Well after a disk repair with my snl disk I am sad to report that my mail is still slow. not by much but going from column to column especially when expanding threads both big and small causes the mail busy message.. the finder is a bit slow but not by much as far as I can tell. What else can I do here? >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:08 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mail crashes on me as well. I've submitted a bug report to Apple. Have you tried Thunderbird? I've downloaded it but not yet installed it. >>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:11, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No it started happening when my start up disk got full. I don't know what's going on here and it is driving me nuts. I'm fine until I come across a submect line and mail acts like it is wanting to crash. >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't remember where it is, but you can turn off all the fancy visual effects in the Finder. This should speed things up a bit. Try looking under Finder Preferences. Also regarding your mail, this may be to do with your mail provider. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:58, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah i performaed them with onyx, twice and my mail takes a bit to refresh in any folder and also my finder is still a bit slow. I'll run them again though just in case. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? >>>>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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>>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 23 01:14:04 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:14:04 +0000 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <5B178468-F2DE-43FC-BEE9-67450ADF0523@gmail.com> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> <5B178468-F2DE-43FC-BEE9-67450ADF0523@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1CC3D58F-68A7-4318-A826-649649AB50B0@mac-access.net> Hmmm, what view are you set to in Finder? Have you cleared out all of your caches etc? Have you considered nuking your Mac and reinstalling from scratch? As a last resort of course. I also get some sluggishness with Finder sometimes, particularly when booting up an External HD for the first time. On 23 Jan 2011, at 01:02, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Well I tried it and so far no go. my finder was still slugish when I was viewing my desktop folder. Now i did notice taht I heard a lot of hard drive activity about 10 seconds after I heard the word finder from voice over but even when there is no hd activity I dunno what's going on. > > S > On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:05 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Check out this article from Apple: >> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379 >> >> Take care >> James >> On 22 Jan 2011, at 23:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I'm using alex and heather .it doesn't matter what voice I'm using.a nd I checked the prefs with onyx and all are ok. I forgot how to reset the other thing you metioned butt how do you do that and what does that to again? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> On Jan 22, 2011, at 3:40 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe you have corrupt preferences? Also, what voice are you using? Just as an aside, I've also found that Mail.app crashes quite regularly. I wonder if it has something to do with a lack of RAM or faulty RAM? >>>> >>>> Have you also tried resetting the PRAM? >>>> Take care >>>> James >>>> On 22 Jan 2011, at 23:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well after a disk repair with my snl disk I am sad to report that my mail is still slow. not by much but going from column to column especially when expanding threads both big and small causes the mail busy message.. the finder is a bit slow but not by much as far as I can tell. What else can I do here? >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:08 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mail crashes on me as well. I've submitted a bug report to Apple. Have you tried Thunderbird? I've downloaded it but not yet installed it. >>>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 22:11, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> No it started happening when my start up disk got full. I don't know what's going on here and it is driving me nuts. I'm fine until I come across a submect line and mail acts like it is wanting to crash. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't remember where it is, but you can turn off all the fancy visual effects in the Finder. This should speed things up a bit. Try looking under Finder Preferences. Also regarding your mail, this may be to do with your mail provider. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:58, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah i performaed them with onyx, twice and my mail takes a bit to refresh in any folder and also my finder is still a bit slow. I'll run them again though just in case. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Have you repaired permissions and performed other maintenance? >>>>>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well I am getting better results. But it is still a bit slugish. I don't know what to do from here. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 20/01/2011, at 18:55, Tom Sullivan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah, I believe the answer is yes. In my understanding, you need to keep 15% of your startup drive free so system and applications have "elbow room." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all my start up disk is almost full and I notice some very sluggish behavior everywhere. Can this be the cause of my slow computer behavior? my mail takes forever to refresh, my finder is bush when sorting and a bit more. the fan is not going but I"m thinking that this might be the cause. I will be freeing up some space to make the system defrag when it can but just wondering. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tom Sullivan >>>>>>>>>>>> profhero1 at mac.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 02:00:45 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:00:45 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <1CC3D58F-68A7-4318-A826-649649AB50B0@mac-access.net> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> <5B178468-F2DE-43FC-BEE9-67450ADF0523@gmail.com> <1CC3D58F-68A7-4318-A826-649649AB50B0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: > Hmmm, what view are you set to in Finder? I'm set to list view. I have always had it set that way with no problems for the past almost year. > > Have you cleared out all of your caches etc? I've used onyx and cached out to do both. Yeah I cleared them out again today and still no go. mail still pickups between the name and subject column and the finder is slow in changing between some columns and some file names. I have a youtube vid about that. It is a screenshot recording at http://youtube.com/marrie125. > Have you considered nuking your Mac and reinstalling from scratch? As a last resort of course. I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 02:18:52 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:18:52 -0800 Subject: Travelreporter GPS milage log Message-ID: <5E94A9BF-CCFF-45A7-8D4D-0F06A83DC55B@gmail.com> This ap seems pretty good. the discriptions is quite interesting. Note: I didn't write this at all! but here is the link. http://bit.ly/gMvXqs Description of app: Do you have to keep a mileage log but thinks it is a bore.Travelreporter makes it as easy as it can be. Tap start trip when you enter the car and then tap stop trip when you are at your destination. Travelreporter will automatically log your start address, end address, distance travelled, time for the trip, and, if you want, place/customer and what car you have used.You don't have to enter any text, but if you want, you can add a note. And if you should forget to stop your trip you will be reminded after standing still for 10 minutes.You can create different reports, which you can send by e-mail, save to your computer (via iTunes) or print (iPhone 3GS or iPhone 4).You can also follow up your fuel consumption per car. The only thing you have to do is enter the amount, when you refuel your car.The trip can log Date, Start address, End Address, Start time, End time, Total time for the trip, Distance travelled, Place/Customer, Car used and Notes.You can sort the reports, with subtotals on Place/Customer and Car.You will get an abbreviated report on the iPhone and a full report that you can email, print or copy to your computer both as an HTML report and as a .csv-report for MS Excel etc.When you stop a trip you can, if you want, get a list of Places/Customers sorted on Start or End place, to choose from, for easy finding.You can also get a list of cars to choose from.If you have an iPhone 3GS or iPhone 4, Travelreporter will log everything in the background, so you can make a phone call or user other apps during your trip or you can lock the screen to save battery.If you have an iPhone 3G, Travelreporter will stay in the foreground during the whole trip. However, if you get a phone call, Travelreporter will restart itself after the phone call has finished and continue the trip.You can see your trip and your places on a map during the trip, to help you navigate to the destination.Continued use of GPS running in the background can dramatically decrease battery life. Version: 1.0.3 Free or Paid: Paid Compatibility: iPhone iPad iPod Touch Accessibility Comments: This ap is fully accessible. VoiceOver Performance: VoiceOver reads all page elements. Button Labelling: All buttons are clearly labelled. Other Comments: I love this ap as I hate having to write down my mileage. From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 10:50:16 2011 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (maria aka bubby) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:50:16 +1100 Subject: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for. In-Reply-To: <6FCEDB61-D2BF-4F80-83BE-20E48831A0BD@gmail.com> References: <6FCEDB61-D2BF-4F80-83BE-20E48831A0BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D3C07E8.4010304@gmail.com> lol the comments are more interesting than the article hehehhehe. God bless, Maria and karly from australia. twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com same for email. proud member of tafn listening to www.powerradio104.com On 1/21/2011 8:49 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Is this another method apple i using to control repairs and keep consumers out? read more: > > http://bit.ly/gpoTpd > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lomaswilliam at googlemail.com Sun Jan 23 12:12:54 2011 From: lomaswilliam at googlemail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:12:54 +0000 Subject: magic mouse Message-ID: hi all, Now I have this imac computer i am seriously considering whether to get a magic mouse assuming it works with voiceover? to complement my braille display I am awaiting Do people use the imacs with touch and braille or is that just too geeky smile From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 12:17:08 2011 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (maria aka bubby) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:17:08 +1100 Subject: auto correct In-Reply-To: <532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a> <532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D3C1C44.8030109@gmail.com> doesn't voice over say double tap not to auto correct or something like that? God bless, Maria and karly from australia. twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com same for email. proud member of tafn listening to www.powerradio104.com On 1/21/2011 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! > > S > On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: > >> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >> >> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >> Subject: auto correct >> >> >>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>> >>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>> Is this possible? >>> >>> Christy >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com Sun Jan 23 12:38:42 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at googlemail.com (Colin M) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:38:42 +0000 Subject: magic mouse In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4457A6F2-BA6B-48B2-9D6C-3FEE21C6568C@gmail.com> Hi William! I have the magic mouse and it works just fine! However I think you might find the trackpad better still! I'm not sure of the price difference but if you have a Iphone or touch or you are thinking of getting one of those or even a I pad then the hand gestures you can use on all! So have a look at the trackpad option! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 23 Jan 2011, at 12:12, william lomas wrote: > hi all, > > Now I have this imac computer i am seriously considering whether to get a magic mouse assuming it works with voiceover? to complement my braille display I am awaiting > Do people use the imacs with touch and braille or is that just too geeky smile > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jan 23 12:47:34 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:47:34 +0000 Subject: Backing up multiple computers with Super Duper? In-Reply-To: References: <9F1548F6-39D5-4734-BA9F-0EFA7A6FBD2C@gmail.com> <2C7C6CC2-0895-4EED-BE2E-88A257E4201C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Courtney I apologise for Gordon not getting back to you. On 22 Jan 2011, at 20:43, Courtney Curran wrote: > ? How do you create multiple partitions on the external hard drive? You can do this using Disk Utility. Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 23 13:01:57 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:01:57 +0000 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> <5B178468-F2DE-43FC-BEE9-67450ADF0523@gmail.com> <1CC3D58F-68A7-4318-A826-649649AB50B0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1DAEB198-58E9-4967-B37B-5845306F2883@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah, On 23 Jan 2011, at 02:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? You could try that :) but sometimes, the keys are not stored in the .plist files. Also, it might be worth trying a disk repair with the install DVD and checking the SMART status of the HD after this in Disc Utility. Take care James >> Hmmm, what view are you set to in Finder? > I'm set to list view. I have always had it set that way with no problems for the past almost year. >> >> Have you cleared out all of your caches etc? > > I've used onyx and cached out to do both. Yeah I cleared them out again today and still no go. mail still pickups between the name and subject column and the finder is slow in changing between some columns and some file names. I have a youtube vid about that. It is a screenshot recording at http://youtube.com/marrie125. > >> Have you considered nuking your Mac and reinstalling from scratch? As a last resort of course. > > I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 13:19:21 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:19:21 -0500 Subject: magic mouse In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4d3c2ada.4407dc0a.31b4.ffff9855@mx.google.com> think the Magic Trackpad would be a much better idea for a blind user. At 07:12 AM 1/23/2011, you wrote: > hi all, > >Now I have this imac computer i am seriously considering whether to >get a magic mouse assuming it works with voiceover? to complement my >braille display I am awaiting >Do people use the imacs with touch and braille or is that just too >geeky smile > >_______________________________________________ > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Jan 23 14:58:29 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:58:29 +0000 Subject: Can I replace Safari with webkit? Message-ID: <0B6C8272-85A8-409F-BEFD-17B3EA74E246@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, the latest version of WebKity fixes two Safari problems which are important to me. First it does not crash when viewing pages from www.bbc.co.uk with cursor tracking on and DOM mode. Second it does not loop when accessing a web site which I frequently need to access. Thus until Apple do a Safari upgrade I would like to use webkit instead. When running webkit looks just like Safari and even labels its window as Safari BUT quickies does not recognise it as Safari. WOuld doing something simple like renaming websit.aa as Safari.aa fix the problem? I suspect not but we live in hope! Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 15:05:35 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:05:35 +0100 Subject: Can I replace Safari with webkit? In-Reply-To: <0B6C8272-85A8-409F-BEFD-17B3EA74E246@hopewell.org.uk> References: <0B6C8272-85A8-409F-BEFD-17B3EA74E246@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Paul, You have to keep in mind that Webkit actually is its own application. You can set Webkit as the default browser in the Preferences with COmmand-Comma, but it does matter which browser you do this from. Safari or Webkit makes no difference, as Webkit is essentially Safari just with a newer engine. So, this is why QuicKeys does not recognize Webkit at the moment. You could probably just recreate the same shortcuts etc for Webkit, though I'm not into QuicKeys that much, so someone else might be able to shed some more light on that. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From lomaswilliam at googlemail.com Sun Jan 23 16:20:45 2011 From: lomaswilliam at googlemail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:20:45 +0000 Subject: IBooks and braille Message-ID: <8BAC6AC8-4A03-494D-959F-C1D66D5C39E0@googlemail.com> HI all for those like me who are going to use or who do use, a braille display with an IpHone how well please does it work in IBooks? If I keep panning with the display will it auto turn the pages? From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Jan 23 17:06:46 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:06:46 -0600 Subject: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for. In-Reply-To: <6FCEDB61-D2BF-4F80-83BE-20E48831A0BD@gmail.com> References: <6FCEDB61-D2BF-4F80-83BE-20E48831A0BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: There's no doubt apple is attempting to keep folks out of their hardware (you know, no user servicable parts inside) but ifixit (http://www.ifixit.com ) has a kit specifically designed to solve this problem. It contains a specially developed screw driver to remove the special screws, and standard #1 phillips screws to replace them, so you can solve the problem yourself. I applaud this kind of thinking, and I fhave no doubt that I fixit will sell a whole heap of these kits (one to me if I ever manage to get my hands on an Iphone myself) so it's not all bad. :) From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Jan 23 17:09:22 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:09:22 +0000 Subject: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for. In-Reply-To: References: <6FCEDB61-D2BF-4F80-83BE-20E48831A0BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E774717-8A50-40C1-99CD-9950D92B68B4@computing.dcu.ie> Perfectly timely for me Travis, the jackplug on my old iPhone 3gs is dying. I want to repair it so I'l be contacting this site immediately. Thanks very much. On 23 Jan 2011, at 17:06, Travis Siegel wrote: > There's no doubt apple is attempting to keep folks out of their hardware (you know, no user servicable parts inside) but ifixit (http://www.ifixit.com) has a kit specifically designed to solve this problem. It contains a specially developed screw driver to remove the special screws, and standard #1 phillips screws to replace them, so you can solve the problem yourself. > I applaud this kind of thinking, and I fhave no doubt that I fixit will sell a whole heap of these kits (one to me if I ever manage to get my hands on an Iphone myself) so it's not all bad. :) > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From tecraig at earthlink.net Sun Jan 23 17:56:55 2011 From: tecraig at earthlink.net (Tommy Craig) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:56:55 -0600 Subject: Safari help Please! In-Reply-To: <0B6C8272-85A8-409F-BEFD-17B3EA74E246@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <001f01cbbb26$ecb5cd40$0201000a@adaptecd1> Hi Everyone, I am having problems with Safari on my Macbook Pro. All was fine until a couple of days ago. I tried installing web kit and I could never get it to install correctly. I could put the disk image on the desktop but I could never get it to show up in the develop menu of Safari as a choice under open page with. Now my Safari is hanging on a lot of pages. Specifically the skype page and Audible.com I'm told that they both have some kind of flash text refreshing on the screen and whenever this happens I keep getting Safari busy and I am unable to do anything on the page. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. I'm wondering about trashing Safari altogether and reinstalling it. Is this a good idea? Thanks, Tommy From abreier at kc.rr.com Sun Jan 23 18:08:20 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:08:20 -0600 Subject: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening thehardware they paid for. References: <6FCEDB61-D2BF-4F80-83BE-20E48831A0BD@gmail.com> <4E774717-8A50-40C1-99CD-9950D92B68B4@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <49F688F32D5A4C309883DF3ABB81A4F6@andrea78cdd59a> But where will you be able to buy the needed parts from? Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "D?nal Fitzpatrick" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:09 AM Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening thehardware they paid for. Perfectly timely for me Travis, the jackplug on my old iPhone 3gs is dying. I want to repair it so I'l be contacting this site immediately. Thanks very much. On 23 Jan 2011, at 17:06, Travis Siegel wrote: > There's no doubt apple is attempting to keep folks out of their hardware > (you know, no user servicable parts inside) but ifixit > (http://www.ifixit.com) has a kit specifically designed to solve this > problem. It contains a specially developed screw driver to remove the > special screws, and standard #1 phillips screws to replace them, so you > can solve the problem yourself. > I applaud this kind of thinking, and I fhave no doubt that I fixit will > sell a whole heap of these kits (one to me if I ever manage to get my > hands on an Iphone myself) so it's not all bad. :) > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie _______________________________________________ To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 18:13:14 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:13:14 +0100 Subject: Safari help Please! In-Reply-To: <001f01cbbb26$ecb5cd40$0201000a@adaptecd1> References: <001f01cbbb26$ecb5cd40$0201000a@adaptecd1> Message-ID: <49A2EA83-2153-473E-BCE5-D9762E19CF72@gmail.com> Hi, The item you are speaking of refers to Spoofing a website into thinking it is another web browser being used. Webkit has its own application, which you have probably noticed when opening the disk image. Simply put it in your applications folder by hitting Command-C, then Command-Shift-A to go to Applications, then Command-V to paste the file. Then, simply open Webkit.app when browsing online, or hit Command-Shift-T to add it to the dock when focussed on Webkit.app. Also, you can set the default web browser under the "General" preferences tab in Safari to be Webkit. It does not matter whether you do this from within Safari or Webkit, since they both are essentially similar applications and use the same preference files. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 18:17:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:17:06 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <1DAEB198-58E9-4967-B37B-5845306F2883@mac-access.net> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> <5B178468-F2DE-43FC-BEE9-67450ADF0523@gmail.com> <1CC3D58F-68A7-4318-A826-649649AB50B0@mac-access.net> <1DAEB198-58E9-4967-B37B-5845306F2883@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0595DE1D-950F-469D-9EE3-1D323B66B0F6@gmail.com> Did both. No go plan b please?? On 23/01/2011, at 5:01, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Sarah, > On 23 Jan 2011, at 02:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? > You could try that :) but sometimes, the keys are not stored in the .plist files. > > Also, it might be worth trying a disk repair with the install DVD and checking the SMART status of the HD after this in Disc Utility. > > Take care > James >>> Hmmm, what view are you set to in Finder? >> I'm set to list view. I have always had it set that way with no problems for the past almost year. >>> >>> Have you cleared out all of your caches etc? >> >> I've used onyx and cached out to do both. Yeah I cleared them out again today and still no go. mail still pickups between the name and subject column and the finder is slow in changing between some columns and some file names. I have a youtube vid about that. It is a screenshot recording at http://youtube.com/marrie125. >> >>> Have you considered nuking your Mac and reinstalling from scratch? As a last resort of course. >> >> I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 18:18:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:18:48 -0800 Subject: auto correct In-Reply-To: <4D3C1C44.8030109@gmail.com> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a> <532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com> <4D3C1C44.8030109@gmail.com> Message-ID: <335BEF8F-ECEB-43DB-B98A-F1DD5C165731@gmail.com> I have hints off and I still get one choice On 23/01/2011, at 4:17, maria aka bubby wrote: > doesn't voice over say double tap not to auto correct or something like that? > > > > God bless, Maria and karly from australia. > twitter: bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > msn bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > same for email. > proud member of tafn > listening to www.powerradio104.com > > > On 1/21/2011 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >> >> S >> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >> >>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>> >>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>> Subject: auto correct >>> >>> >>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>> >>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>> Is this possible? >>>> >>>> Christy >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Jan 23 18:39:53 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:39:53 +0000 Subject: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening thehardware they paid for. In-Reply-To: <49F688F32D5A4C309883DF3ABB81A4F6@andrea78cdd59a> References: <6FCEDB61-D2BF-4F80-83BE-20E48831A0BD@gmail.com> <4E774717-8A50-40C1-99CD-9950D92B68B4@computing.dcu.ie> <49F688F32D5A4C309883DF3ABB81A4F6@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <3071A29D-2863-4B05-9235-D41B1FD0A396@computing.dcu.ie> Ah it's just a dodgy connection, so before I allow my mobile phone operator to screw even more money out of me for a new phone I don't want, I'd like to open the existing one and see if I can't fix it.. On 23 Jan 2011, at 18:08, Andrea Breier wrote: > But where will you be able to buy the needed parts from? > Hugs, Andrea M Breier > > Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "D?nal Fitzpatrick" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:09 AM > Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening thehardware they paid for. > > > Perfectly timely for me Travis, the jackplug on my old iPhone 3gs is dying. I want to repair it so I'l be contacting this site immediately. Thanks very much. > On 23 Jan 2011, at 17:06, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> There's no doubt apple is attempting to keep folks out of their hardware (you know, no user servicable parts inside) but ifixit (http://www.ifixit.com) has a kit specifically designed to solve this problem. It contains a specially developed screw driver to remove the special screws, and standard #1 phillips screws to replace them, so you can solve the problem yourself. >> I applaud this kind of thinking, and I fhave no doubt that I fixit will sell a whole heap of these kits (one to me if I ever manage to get my hands on an Iphone myself) so it's not all bad. :) >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From gunn at tznet.com Sun Jan 23 18:52:22 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:52:22 -0600 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <0595DE1D-950F-469D-9EE3-1D323B66B0F6@gmail.com> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> <5B178468-F2DE-43FC-BEE9-67450ADF0523@gmail.com> <1CC3D58F-68A7-4318-A826-649649AB50B0@mac-access.net> <1DAEB198-58E9-4967-B37B-5845306F2883@mac-access.net> <0595DE1D-950F-469D-9EE3-1D323B66B0F6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <268CAC57-C92F-467E-A799-E52E03632EF6@tznet.com> Sarah: I presume this started happening in the last few weeks? As much as I hate to say this, not sure what you are using for a computer but the HD might being going south. If you have an external HD, use TimeMachine to backup. Another thought which might better, have you looked under accounts to see what you have for starut items? All I have is iTunes helper, Growl which is associated with DropBox also in startup. I hope the startup has a lot of junk and maybe thiswill work. John On Jan 23, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Did both. No go plan b please?? > > On 23/01/2011, at 5:01, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> On 23 Jan 2011, at 02:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? >> You could try that :) but sometimes, the keys are not stored in the .plist files. >> >> Also, it might be worth trying a disk repair with the install DVD and checking the SMART status of the HD after this in Disc Utility. >> >> Take care >> James >>>> Hmmm, what view are you set to in Finder? >>> I'm set to list view. I have always had it set that way with no problems for the past almost year. >>>> >>>> Have you cleared out all of your caches etc? >>> >>> I've used onyx and cached out to do both. Yeah I cleared them out again today and still no go. mail still pickups between the name and subject column and the finder is slow in changing between some columns and some file names. I have a youtube vid about that. It is a screenshot recording at http://youtube.com/marrie125. >>> >>>> Have you considered nuking your Mac and reinstalling from scratch? As a last resort of course. >>> >>> I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From abreier at kc.rr.com Sun Jan 23 19:09:26 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:09:26 -0600 Subject: auto correct, more help needed? References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><4D3C1C44.8030109@gmail.com> <335BEF8F-ECEB-43DB-B98A-F1DD5C165731@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0AFBA05B7008423899F35A6401A6345D@andrea78cdd59a> I really haven't spent much time with this topic. It seems that by the time I hear the little alert tone, I have cancelled it because I have already typed the next letter. I just now tried to work with it and I am getting the same result that you are. I get one suggestion. Would someone on this list be so kind as to chime in and explain to us how the auto text is supposed to work? Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:18 PM Subject: Re: auto correct >I have hints off and I still get one choice > > On 23/01/2011, at 4:17, maria aka bubby wrote: > >> doesn't voice over say double tap not to auto correct or something like >> that? >> >> >> >> God bless, Maria and karly from australia. >> twitter: bubbygirl >> skype: bubbygirl1972 >> msn bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> same for email. >> proud member of tafn >> listening to www.powerradio104.com >> >> >> On 1/21/2011 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm >>> confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht >>> my poor head. lol! >>> >>> S >>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>> >>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times >>>> and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it >>>> thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's >>>> self. >>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>> >>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of >>>> yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave >>>> the rest to God >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy >>>> Schulte" >>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>> Subject: auto correct >>>> >>>> >>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can >>>>> save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>> >>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it >>>>> doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I >>>>> don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the >>>>> entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, >>>>> just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>> Is this possible? >>>>> >>>>> Christy >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 19:19:03 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:19:03 -0800 Subject: draging and droping from 1 window to another Message-ID: <8C31E231-9F94-4CDF-8E9E-B0F2D668D065@gmail.com> Hello I'm trying to drag something from the finder to the prefs window. I cannot open the thing as it is something I need to physically drag . I followed the vo instructions in the vo manual but they failed. How can I do this. I tried a copy paste but that wouldn't work. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 19:36:07 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:36:07 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <268CAC57-C92F-467E-A799-E52E03632EF6@tznet.com> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> <5B178468-F2DE-43FC-BEE9-67450ADF0523@gmail.com> <1CC3D58F-68A7-4318-A826-649649AB50B0@mac-access.net> <1DAEB198-58E9-4967-B37B-5845306F2883@mac-access.net> <0595DE1D-950F-469D-9EE3-1D323B66B0F6@gmail.com> <268CAC57-C92F-467E-A799-E52E03632EF6@tznet.com> Message-ID: <238B587C-7228-4B48-BDEB-D842030914BD@gmail.com> No I removed all start up items by accident. This did not resolve the problem. I only had the mac for about 11 months and 15 days. the hd sounds fine to my trained ear. tht was the first thing I thought of. It all started when I had about 2 gigs left, I think. I have about 60 now, maybe a bit less on a 250 gig hd. the only apps that are slow are finder in the finder and in any save dialogue and mail when moving from name to subject colomn. On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:52 AM, John Gunn wrote: > Sarah: > > I presume this started happening in the last few weeks? As much as I hate to say this, not sure what you are using for a computer but the HD might being going south. > > If you have an external HD, use TimeMachine to backup. > > Another thought which might better, have you looked under accounts to see what you have for starut items? All I have is iTunes helper, Growl which is associated with DropBox also in startup. > > I hope the startup has a lot of junk and maybe thiswill work. > > John > > > On Jan 23, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Did both. No go plan b please?? >> >> On 23/01/2011, at 5:01, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> On 23 Jan 2011, at 02:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? >>> You could try that :) but sometimes, the keys are not stored in the .plist files. >>> >>> Also, it might be worth trying a disk repair with the install DVD and checking the SMART status of the HD after this in Disc Utility. >>> >>> Take care >>> James >>>>> Hmmm, what view are you set to in Finder? >>>> I'm set to list view. I have always had it set that way with no problems for the past almost year. >>>>> >>>>> Have you cleared out all of your caches etc? >>>> >>>> I've used onyx and cached out to do both. Yeah I cleared them out again today and still no go. mail still pickups between the name and subject column and the finder is slow in changing between some columns and some file names. I have a youtube vid about that. It is a screenshot recording at http://youtube.com/marrie125. >>>> >>>>> Have you considered nuking your Mac and reinstalling from scratch? As a last resort of course. >>>> >>>> I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Jan 23 19:40:30 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:40:30 +0000 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: <238B587C-7228-4B48-BDEB-D842030914BD@gmail.com> References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> <5B178468-F2DE-43FC-BEE9-67450ADF0523@gmail.com> <1CC3D58F-68A7-4318-A826-649649AB50B0@mac-access.net> <1DAEB198-58E9-4967-B37B-5845306F2883@mac-access.net> <0595DE1D-950F-469D-9EE3-1D323B66B0F6@gmail.com> <268CAC57-C92F-467E-A799-E52E03632EF6@tznet.com> <238B587C-7228-4B48-BDEB-D842030914BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sarah my apologies I haven't been following this thread, but have you tried deleting the various property list files associated with the apps that are running slowly? Possibly suggested before, in which case feel free to ignore :) On 23 Jan 2011, at 19:36, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No I removed all start up items by accident. This did not resolve the problem. I only had the mac for about 11 months and 15 days. the hd sounds fine to my trained ear. tht was the first thing I thought of. It all started when I had about 2 gigs left, I think. I have about 60 now, maybe a bit less on a 250 gig hd. the only apps that are slow are finder in the finder and in any save dialogue and mail when moving from name to subject colomn. > On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:52 AM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Sarah: >> >> I presume this started happening in the last few weeks? As much as I hate to say this, not sure what you are using for a computer but the HD might being going south. >> >> If you have an external HD, use TimeMachine to backup. >> >> Another thought which might better, have you looked under accounts to see what you have for starut items? All I have is iTunes helper, Growl which is associated with DropBox also in startup. >> >> I hope the startup has a lot of junk and maybe thiswill work. >> >> John >> >> >> On Jan 23, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Did both. No go plan b please?? >>> >>> On 23/01/2011, at 5:01, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sarah, >>>> On 23 Jan 2011, at 02:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? >>>> You could try that :) but sometimes, the keys are not stored in the .plist files. >>>> >>>> Also, it might be worth trying a disk repair with the install DVD and checking the SMART status of the HD after this in Disc Utility. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> James >>>>>> Hmmm, what view are you set to in Finder? >>>>> I'm set to list view. I have always had it set that way with no problems for the past almost year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you cleared out all of your caches etc? >>>>> >>>>> I've used onyx and cached out to do both. Yeah I cleared them out again today and still no go. mail still pickups between the name and subject column and the finder is slow in changing between some columns and some file names. I have a youtube vid about that. It is a screenshot recording at http://youtube.com/marrie125. >>>>> >>>>>> Have you considered nuking your Mac and reinstalling from scratch? As a last resort of course. >>>>> >>>>> I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 19:53:26 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:53:26 -0800 Subject: Woman hangs up on $10,000 call from Apple Message-ID: I was groaning whern I read this. read more. http://bit.ly/dPB5DK From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 19:55:42 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:55:42 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> <5B178468-F2DE-43FC-BEE9-67450ADF0523@gmail.com> <1CC3D58F-68A7-4318-A826-649649AB50B0@mac-access.net> <1DAEB198-58E9-4967-B37B-5845306F2883@mac-access.net> <0595DE1D-950F-469D-9EE3-1D323B66B0F6@gmail.com> <268CAC57-C92F-467E-A799-E52E03632EF6@tznet.com> <238B587C-7228-4B48-BDEB-D842030914BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5274ACF1-6928-4524-919B-F350C79079D5@gmail.com> Yeah I ran an onyx clean up. I really don't want to erace my mail PList file as I don't want to recreate my account and download all of my imap folders again. I might do the finder if i can find the approprate PList files with out moving finder.app to the trash. lol! I use trash me to do all of this. lol! On Jan 23, 2011, at 11:40 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Sarah my apologies I haven't been following this thread, but have you tried deleting the various property list files associated with the apps that are running slowly? Possibly suggested before, in which case feel free to ignore :) > On 23 Jan 2011, at 19:36, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No I removed all start up items by accident. This did not resolve the problem. I only had the mac for about 11 months and 15 days. the hd sounds fine to my trained ear. tht was the first thing I thought of. It all started when I had about 2 gigs left, I think. I have about 60 now, maybe a bit less on a 250 gig hd. the only apps that are slow are finder in the finder and in any save dialogue and mail when moving from name to subject colomn. >> On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:52 AM, John Gunn wrote: >> >>> Sarah: >>> >>> I presume this started happening in the last few weeks? As much as I hate to say this, not sure what you are using for a computer but the HD might being going south. >>> >>> If you have an external HD, use TimeMachine to backup. >>> >>> Another thought which might better, have you looked under accounts to see what you have for starut items? All I have is iTunes helper, Growl which is associated with DropBox also in startup. >>> >>> I hope the startup has a lot of junk and maybe thiswill work. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> On Jan 23, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Did both. No go plan b please?? >>>> >>>> On 23/01/2011, at 5:01, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Sarah, >>>>> On 23 Jan 2011, at 02:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? >>>>> You could try that :) but sometimes, the keys are not stored in the .plist files. >>>>> >>>>> Also, it might be worth trying a disk repair with the install DVD and checking the SMART status of the HD after this in Disc Utility. >>>>> >>>>> Take care >>>>> James >>>>>>> Hmmm, what view are you set to in Finder? >>>>>> I'm set to list view. I have always had it set that way with no problems for the past almost year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you cleared out all of your caches etc? >>>>>> >>>>>> I've used onyx and cached out to do both. Yeah I cleared them out again today and still no go. mail still pickups between the name and subject column and the finder is slow in changing between some columns and some file names. I have a youtube vid about that. It is a screenshot recording at http://youtube.com/marrie125. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you considered nuking your Mac and reinstalling from scratch? As a last resort of course. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 20:21:05 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:21:05 -0800 Subject: can an almost full start up disk slow me down to a crawl? In-Reply-To: References: <1CA06BDE-9F77-4E4A-926E-CD92958DB528@gmail.com> <91AD491E-FBEB-4062-8712-590F8392842F@gmail.com> <28E3F5F3-7E69-4667-A47F-D5255D6AB160@mac-access.net> <3D92FC66-6225-4814-A39E-C3002E408D7F@gmail.com> <75FC71E8-9135-4839-B39E-D321641E04AB@mac-access.net> <954FA1B2-B983-4F6A-B7FF-596836ECB645@mac-access.net> <68B5C0CA-4C1D-4C41-A511-2B821440C448@gmail.com> <2918E854-E10A-485D-906A-F4886C5611BA@mac-access.net> <5B178468-F2DE-43FC-BEE9-67450ADF0523@gmail.com> <1CC3D58F-68A7-4318-A826-649649AB50B0@mac-access.net> <1DAEB198-58E9-4967-B37B-5845306F2883@mac-access.net> <0595DE1D-950F-469D-9EE3-1D323B66B0F6@gmail.com> <268CAC57-C92F-467E-A799-E52E03632EF6@tznet.com> <238B587C-7228-4B48-BDEB-D842030914BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well I just redid it as I forgot some stuff. I am not yet sure if it worked. I'm not holding my breath until I test and I'm not fully awake enough to test thuroly. On Jan 23, 2011, at 11:40 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Sarah my apologies I haven't been following this thread, but have you tried deleting the various property list files associated with the apps that are running slowly? Possibly suggested before, in which case feel free to ignore :) > On 23 Jan 2011, at 19:36, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No I removed all start up items by accident. This did not resolve the problem. I only had the mac for about 11 months and 15 days. the hd sounds fine to my trained ear. tht was the first thing I thought of. It all started when I had about 2 gigs left, I think. I have about 60 now, maybe a bit less on a 250 gig hd. the only apps that are slow are finder in the finder and in any save dialogue and mail when moving from name to subject colomn. >> On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:52 AM, John Gunn wrote: >> >>> Sarah: >>> >>> I presume this started happening in the last few weeks? As much as I hate to say this, not sure what you are using for a computer but the HD might being going south. >>> >>> If you have an external HD, use TimeMachine to backup. >>> >>> Another thought which might better, have you looked under accounts to see what you have for starut items? All I have is iTunes helper, Growl which is associated with DropBox also in startup. >>> >>> I hope the startup has a lot of junk and maybe thiswill work. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> On Jan 23, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Did both. No go plan b please?? >>>> >>>> On 23/01/2011, at 5:01, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Sarah, >>>>> On 23 Jan 2011, at 02:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? >>>>> You could try that :) but sometimes, the keys are not stored in the .plist files. >>>>> >>>>> Also, it might be worth trying a disk repair with the install DVD and checking the SMART status of the HD after this in Disc Utility. >>>>> >>>>> Take care >>>>> James >>>>>>> Hmmm, what view are you set to in Finder? >>>>>> I'm set to list view. I have always had it set that way with no problems for the past almost year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you cleared out all of your caches etc? >>>>>> >>>>>> I've used onyx and cached out to do both. Yeah I cleared them out again today and still no go. mail still pickups between the name and subject column and the finder is slow in changing between some columns and some file names. I have a youtube vid about that. It is a screenshot recording at http://youtube.com/marrie125. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you considered nuking your Mac and reinstalling from scratch? As a last resort of course. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have, but there are some softwares I bought that I forgot to back up the key too. I dunno if the dev will appreciate me contacting him to say, Um, I forgot to back up my key can you help me? lol! or can I back up my prefs files and just reinstall those? >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Sun Jan 23 20:48:26 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:48:26 +0000 Subject: auto correct, more help needed? In-Reply-To: <0AFBA05B7008423899F35A6401A6345D@andrea78cdd59a> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><4D3C1C44.8030109@gmail.com> <335BEF8F-ECEB-43DB-B98A-F1DD5C165731@gmail.com> <0AFBA05B7008423899F35A6401A6345D@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: <916118D7-7F25-4E59-8DB4-B0B81E03DF9C@virginmedia.com> hi i have just got an iphone 4 and im just trying to get my head round it too so any tips would be great, i did also find this as i have an ipod that i got a few months ago so that would be good for me too thanks from me also smiley On 23 Jan 2011, at 19:09, Andrea Breier wrote: > I really haven't spent much time with this topic. It seems that by the time I hear the little alert tone, I have cancelled it because I have already typed the next letter. I just now tried to work with it and I am getting the same result that you are. I get one suggestion. Would someone on this list be so kind as to chime in and explain to us how the auto text is supposed to work? > Hugs, Andrea M Breier > > Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: auto correct > > >> I have hints off and I still get one choice >> >> On 23/01/2011, at 4:17, maria aka bubby wrote: >> >>> doesn't voice over say double tap not to auto correct or something like that? >>> >>> >>> >>> God bless, Maria and karly from australia. >>> twitter: bubbygirl >>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>> msn bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>> same for email. >>> proud member of tafn >>> listening to www.powerradio104.com >>> >>> >>> On 1/21/2011 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>> >>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>> >>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>> >>>>>> Christy >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tecraig at earthlink.net Sun Jan 23 21:02:04 2011 From: tecraig at earthlink.net (Tommy Craig) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:02:04 -0600 Subject: Safari help Please! In-Reply-To: <49A2EA83-2153-473E-BCE5-D9762E19CF72@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601cbbb40$ca3bf860$0201000a@adaptecd1> Hi, Thanks for the help. I now have webkit working. Now my question is, can I uninstall Safari and maybe do a clean install of it. I really don't believe that I was having this problem earlier. Thanks, Tommy -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:13 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Safari help Please! Hi, The item you are speaking of refers to Spoofing a website into thinking it is another web browser being used. Webkit has its own application, which you have probably noticed when opening the disk image. Simply put it in your applications folder by hitting Command-C, then Command-Shift-A to go to Applications, then Command-V to paste the file. Then, simply open Webkit.app when browsing online, or hit Command-Shift-T to add it to the dock when focussed on Webkit.app. Also, you can set the default web browser under the "General" preferences tab in Safari to be Webkit. It does not matter whether you do this from within Safari or Webkit, since they both are essentially similar applications and use the same preference files. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1990 at gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nicolai at home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 23 21:26:13 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:26:13 +0000 Subject: auto correct, more help needed? In-Reply-To: <916118D7-7F25-4E59-8DB4-B0B81E03DF9C@virginmedia.com> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><4D3C1C44.8030109@gmail.com> <335BEF8F-ECEB-43DB-B98A-F1DD5C165731@gmail.com> <0AFBA05B7008423899F35A6401A6345D@andrea78cdd59a> <916118D7-7F25-4E59-8DB4-B0B81E03DF9C@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <5150236D-8820-4D6B-AE35-4D3211387B9E@googlemail.com> Hi Julie and all. :) to turn auto correction off autocorrection, do the following: 1. Go to Settings from the home screen. 2. Go to General. 3. Go to Keyboard settings. 4. Scroll down until you hear "Autocorrection On.", and touble tap to turn it off. 5. That's it! YOure done! Note: Instructions should be exactly the same for the iPhone. I hope this answers your question. Best regards. Lewis. On 23 Jan 2011, at 20:48, Julie Vaughan wrote: > hi i have just got an iphone 4 and im just trying to get my head round it too so any tips would be great, i did also find this as i have an ipod that i got a few months ago so that would be good for me too > > thanks from me also > > smiley > On 23 Jan 2011, at 19:09, Andrea Breier wrote: > >> I really haven't spent much time with this topic. It seems that by the time I hear the little alert tone, I have cancelled it because I have already typed the next letter. I just now tried to work with it and I am getting the same result that you are. I get one suggestion. Would someone on this list be so kind as to chime in and explain to us how the auto text is supposed to work? >> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >> >> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:18 PM >> Subject: Re: auto correct >> >> >>> I have hints off and I still get one choice >>> >>> On 23/01/2011, at 4:17, maria aka bubby wrote: >>> >>>> doesn't voice over say double tap not to auto correct or something like that? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> God bless, Maria and karly from australia. >>>> twitter: bubbygirl >>>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>>> msn bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>> same for email. >>>> proud member of tafn >>>> listening to www.powerradio104.com >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/21/2011 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>>> >>>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Christy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Sun Jan 23 21:28:23 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:28:23 +0000 Subject: auto correct, more help needed? In-Reply-To: <5150236D-8820-4D6B-AE35-4D3211387B9E@googlemail.com> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><4D3C1C44.8030109@gmail.com> <335BEF8F-ECEB-43DB-B98A-F1DD5C165731@gmail.com> <0AFBA05B7008423899F35A6401A6345D@andrea78cdd59a> <916118D7-7F25-4E59-8DB4-B0B81E03DF9C@virginmedia.com> <5150236D-8820-4D6B-AE35-4D3211387B9E@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1AC1B8B2-ABF0-42ED-A1F2-9D2B4EBCD7C2@virginmedia.com> thanks lewis the instructions just how i like them thank you matey big smiley On 23 Jan 2011, at 21:26, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Julie and all. :) > > to turn auto correction off autocorrection, do the following: > 1. Go to Settings from the home screen. > 2. Go to General. > 3. Go to Keyboard settings. > 4. Scroll down until you hear "Autocorrection On.", and touble tap to turn it off. > 5. That's it! YOure done! > > Note: Instructions should be exactly the same for the iPhone. > I hope this answers your question. > Best regards. > Lewis. > On 23 Jan 2011, at 20:48, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> hi i have just got an iphone 4 and im just trying to get my head round it too so any tips would be great, i did also find this as i have an ipod that i got a few months ago so that would be good for me too >> >> thanks from me also >> >> smiley >> On 23 Jan 2011, at 19:09, Andrea Breier wrote: >> >>> I really haven't spent much time with this topic. It seems that by the time I hear the little alert tone, I have cancelled it because I have already typed the next letter. I just now tried to work with it and I am getting the same result that you are. I get one suggestion. Would someone on this list be so kind as to chime in and explain to us how the auto text is supposed to work? >>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>> >>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:18 PM >>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>> >>> >>>> I have hints off and I still get one choice >>>> >>>> On 23/01/2011, at 4:17, maria aka bubby wrote: >>>> >>>>> doesn't voice over say double tap not to auto correct or something like that? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> God bless, Maria and karly from australia. >>>>> twitter: bubbygirl >>>>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>>>> msn bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>>> same for email. >>>>> proud member of tafn >>>>> listening to www.powerradio104.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1/21/2011 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>>>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Christy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 23 21:31:49 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:31:49 +0000 Subject: auto correct, more help needed? In-Reply-To: <1AC1B8B2-ABF0-42ED-A1F2-9D2B4EBCD7C2@virginmedia.com> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><4D3C1C44.8030109@gmail.com> <335BEF8F-ECEB-43DB-B98A-F1DD5C165731@gmail.com> <0AFBA05B7008423899F35A6401A6345D@andrea78cdd59a> <916118D7-7F25-4E59-8DB4-B0B81E03DF9C@virginmedia.com> <5150236D-8820-4D6B-AE35-4D3211387B9E@googlemail.com> <1AC1B8B2-ABF0-42ED-A1F2-9D2B4EBCD7C2@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <62FF19A5-2F88-4E2B-BBBF-B0CAA21C71B9@googlemail.com> Hi Julie. :) No probs at all, anytime. :) Lewis. On 23 Jan 2011, at 21:28, Julie Vaughan wrote: > thanks lewis the instructions just how i like them thank you matey big smiley > On 23 Jan 2011, at 21:26, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> Hi Julie and all. :) >> >> to turn auto correction off autocorrection, do the following: >> 1. Go to Settings from the home screen. >> 2. Go to General. >> 3. Go to Keyboard settings. >> 4. Scroll down until you hear "Autocorrection On.", and touble tap to turn it off. >> 5. That's it! YOure done! >> >> Note: Instructions should be exactly the same for the iPhone. >> I hope this answers your question. >> Best regards. >> Lewis. >> On 23 Jan 2011, at 20:48, Julie Vaughan wrote: >> >>> hi i have just got an iphone 4 and im just trying to get my head round it too so any tips would be great, i did also find this as i have an ipod that i got a few months ago so that would be good for me too >>> >>> thanks from me also >>> >>> smiley >>> On 23 Jan 2011, at 19:09, Andrea Breier wrote: >>> >>>> I really haven't spent much time with this topic. It seems that by the time I hear the little alert tone, I have cancelled it because I have already typed the next letter. I just now tried to work with it and I am getting the same result that you are. I get one suggestion. Would someone on this list be so kind as to chime in and explain to us how the auto text is supposed to work? >>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>> >>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:18 PM >>>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have hints off and I still get one choice >>>>> >>>>> On 23/01/2011, at 4:17, maria aka bubby wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> doesn't voice over say double tap not to auto correct or something like that? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> God bless, Maria and karly from australia. >>>>>> twitter: bubbygirl >>>>>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>>>>> msn bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>>>> same for email. >>>>>> proud member of tafn >>>>>> listening to www.powerradio104.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/21/2011 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>>>>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Christy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Sun Jan 23 21:36:10 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:36:10 +0000 Subject: auto correct, more help needed? In-Reply-To: <62FF19A5-2F88-4E2B-BBBF-B0CAA21C71B9@googlemail.com> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><4D3C1C44.8030109@gmail.com> <335BEF8F-ECEB-43DB-B98A-F1DD5C165731@gmail.com> <0AFBA05B7008423899F35A6401A6345D@andrea78cdd59a> <916118D7-7F25-4E59-8DB4-B0B81E03DF9C@virginmedia.com> <5150236D-8820-4D6B-AE35-4D3211387B9E@googlemail.com> <1AC1B8B2-ABF0-42ED-A1F2-9D2B4EBCD7C2@virginmedia.com> <62FF19A5-2F88-4E2B-BBBF-B0CAA21C71B9@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <5D286C01-4BA0-4346-A9EE-1015CF311690@virginmedia.com> thanks lewis smiley On 23 Jan 2011, at 21:31, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Julie. :) > > No probs at all, anytime. :) > Lewis. > On 23 Jan 2011, at 21:28, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> thanks lewis the instructions just how i like them thank you matey big smiley >> On 23 Jan 2011, at 21:26, Lewis Crack wrote: >> >>> Hi Julie and all. :) >>> >>> to turn auto correction off autocorrection, do the following: >>> 1. Go to Settings from the home screen. >>> 2. Go to General. >>> 3. Go to Keyboard settings. >>> 4. Scroll down until you hear "Autocorrection On.", and touble tap to turn it off. >>> 5. That's it! YOure done! >>> >>> Note: Instructions should be exactly the same for the iPhone. >>> I hope this answers your question. >>> Best regards. >>> Lewis. >>> On 23 Jan 2011, at 20:48, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>> >>>> hi i have just got an iphone 4 and im just trying to get my head round it too so any tips would be great, i did also find this as i have an ipod that i got a few months ago so that would be good for me too >>>> >>>> thanks from me also >>>> >>>> smiley >>>> On 23 Jan 2011, at 19:09, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>> >>>>> I really haven't spent much time with this topic. It seems that by the time I hear the little alert tone, I have cancelled it because I have already typed the next letter. I just now tried to work with it and I am getting the same result that you are. I get one suggestion. Would someone on this list be so kind as to chime in and explain to us how the auto text is supposed to work? >>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>> >>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:18 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have hints off and I still get one choice >>>>>> >>>>>> On 23/01/2011, at 4:17, maria aka bubby wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> doesn't voice over say double tap not to auto correct or something like that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> God bless, Maria and karly from australia. >>>>>>> twitter: bubbygirl >>>>>>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>>>>>> msn bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>>>>> same for email. >>>>>>> proud member of tafn >>>>>>> listening to www.powerradio104.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/21/2011 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>>>>>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Christy >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Sun Jan 23 21:40:33 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:40:33 -0600 Subject: help guys Message-ID: <2ED860BB16774FCAAA2165ACD2B23AB9@DouglasPC> hey this is slightley offtopic, buuuuut, i need help. I need to know how and where i go to submit a service request for ipod headphones?.... i know it can be done, but i can't find how... if you could help me, i would love it! thank youuuuuuuu guys.. doug From abreier at kc.rr.com Sun Jan 23 22:01:02 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:01:02 -0600 Subject: auto correct, more help needed? References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><4D3C1C44.8030109@gmail.com><335BEF8F-ECEB-43DB-B98A-F1DD5C165731@gmail.com><0AFBA05B7008423899F35A6401A6345D@andrea78cdd59a><916118D7-7F25-4E59-8DB4-B0B81E03DF9C@virginmedia.com><5150236D-8820-4D6B-AE35-4D3211387B9E@googlemail.com> <1AC1B8B2-ABF0-42ED-A1F2-9D2B4EBCD7C2@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: Yes, but what about those of us who would like to use it? Hugs, Andrea M Breier Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Vaughan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 3:28 PM Subject: Re: auto correct, more help needed? > thanks lewis the instructions just how i like them thank you matey big > smiley > On 23 Jan 2011, at 21:26, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> Hi Julie and all. :) >> >> to turn auto correction off autocorrection, do the following: >> 1. Go to Settings from the home screen. >> 2. Go to General. >> 3. Go to Keyboard settings. >> 4. Scroll down until you hear "Autocorrection On.", and touble tap to >> turn it off. >> 5. That's it! YOure done! >> >> Note: Instructions should be exactly the same for the iPhone. >> I hope this answers your question. >> Best regards. >> Lewis. >> On 23 Jan 2011, at 20:48, Julie Vaughan wrote: >> >>> hi i have just got an iphone 4 and im just trying to get my head round >>> it too so any tips would be great, i did also find this as i have an >>> ipod that i got a few months ago so that would be good for me too >>> >>> thanks from me also >>> >>> smiley >>> On 23 Jan 2011, at 19:09, Andrea Breier wrote: >>> >>>> I really haven't spent much time with this topic. It seems that by the >>>> time I hear the little alert tone, I have cancelled it because I have >>>> already typed the next letter. I just now tried to work with it and I >>>> am getting the same result that you are. I get one suggestion. Would >>>> someone on this list be so kind as to chime in and explain to us how >>>> the auto text is supposed to work? >>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>> >>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of >>>> yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave >>>> the rest to God >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:18 PM >>>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have hints off and I still get one choice >>>>> >>>>> On 23/01/2011, at 4:17, maria aka bubby >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> doesn't voice over say double tap not to auto correct or something >>>>>> like that? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> God bless, Maria and karly from australia. >>>>>> twitter: bubbygirl >>>>>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>>>>> msn bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>>>> same for email. >>>>>> proud member of tafn >>>>>> listening to www.powerradio104.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/21/2011 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? >>>>>>> I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to >>>>>>> do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three >>>>>>>> times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than >>>>>>>> what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and >>>>>>>> correct it's self. >>>>>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of >>>>>>>> yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. >>>>>>>> Leave the rest to God >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy >>>>>>>> Schulte" >>>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it >>>>>>>>> can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it >>>>>>>>> doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? >>>>>>>>> I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for >>>>>>>>> the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this >>>>>>>>> word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Christy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted >>>>>>>>> to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted >>>>>>>> to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted >>>>>>> to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>>>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From lomaswilliam at googlemail.com Sun Jan 23 22:52:47 2011 From: lomaswilliam at googlemail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:52:47 +0000 Subject: ibooks? Message-ID: <0289045A-3478-40FB-95BC-CEA04ED92AE9@googlemail.com> Hi all, I am surprised that IBooks is not for the Mac OSX platform. Apple are in direct competition with kindle whose app is inaccessible to us on all platforms, and I am shocked that a mac OSX version does not exist, to help raise the bar higher in terms of accessibility then we could read a book on the mac and or IOS device effortlessly From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jan 23 22:57:19 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:57:19 +0000 Subject: auto correct, more help needed? In-Reply-To: References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><4D3C1C44.8030109@gmail.com><335BEF8F-ECEB-43DB-B98A-F1DD5C165731@gmail.com><0AFBA05B7008423899F35A6401A6345D@andrea78cdd59a><916118D7-7F25-4E59-8DB4-B0B81E03DF9C@virginmedia.com><5150236D-8820-4D6B-AE35-4D3211387B9E@googlemail.com> <1AC1B8B2-ABF0-42ED-A1F2-9D2B4EBCD7C2@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <09FE6A43-742C-4EBF-8E8A-C25E74BD1892@googlemail.com> Hello Andrea. If they want to use it all they have to do is double tap to toggle the setting (to turn it on if it is off, or off if it is on). All the settings that have that kind of setting (on or off, checked or not checked) do the same thing (double tap to toggle setting) Hope htis helps. Lewis. PS. I think my instructions hinted what the setting did. On 23 Jan 2011, at 22:01, Andrea Breier wrote: > Yes, but what about those of us who would like to use it? > Hugs, Andrea M Breier > > Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Vaughan" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 3:28 PM > Subject: Re: auto correct, more help needed? > > >> thanks lewis the instructions just how i like them thank you matey big smiley >> On 23 Jan 2011, at 21:26, Lewis Crack wrote: >> >>> Hi Julie and all. :) >>> >>> to turn auto correction off autocorrection, do the following: >>> 1. Go to Settings from the home screen. >>> 2. Go to General. >>> 3. Go to Keyboard settings. >>> 4. Scroll down until you hear "Autocorrection On.", and touble tap to turn it off. >>> 5. That's it! YOure done! >>> >>> Note: Instructions should be exactly the same for the iPhone. >>> I hope this answers your question. >>> Best regards. >>> Lewis. >>> On 23 Jan 2011, at 20:48, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>> >>>> hi i have just got an iphone 4 and im just trying to get my head round it too so any tips would be great, i did also find this as i have an ipod that i got a few months ago so that would be good for me too >>>> >>>> thanks from me also >>>> >>>> smiley >>>> On 23 Jan 2011, at 19:09, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>> >>>>> I really haven't spent much time with this topic. It seems that by the time I hear the little alert tone, I have cancelled it because I have already typed the next letter. I just now tried to work with it and I am getting the same result that you are. I get one suggestion. Would someone on this list be so kind as to chime in and explain to us how the auto text is supposed to work? >>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>> >>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:18 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: auto correct >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have hints off and I still get one choice >>>>>> >>>>>> On 23/01/2011, at 4:17, maria aka bubby wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> doesn't voice over say double tap not to auto correct or something like that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> God bless, Maria and karly from australia. >>>>>>> twitter: bubbygirl >>>>>>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>>>>>> msn bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>>>>> same for email. >>>>>>> proud member of tafn >>>>>>> listening to www.powerradio104.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/21/2011 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> I tried that for me and no go. what do you mean go back three times? I'm confused slightly. Nothing to do wiht th emessage everything to do wiht my poor head. lol! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think someone on this list explained that if you go back three times and correct the auto correct to what you want rather than what it thinks you should be using, it will learn from that and correct it's self. >>>>>>>>> Hugs, Andrea M Breier >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of yours! Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy Schulte" >>>>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:29 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: auto correct >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, I rather like auto correct on my iphone, usually. Sometimes it can save me time and frustration, but sometimes it can add to it! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My question is this. If I'm typing along, and I type something it doesn't like and wants to correct, how do I tell it no? Or can I? I don't want to turn it off, I don't even want to disable it for the entire message, I just want to tell it, no, don't correct this word, just let me type a space and leave it be. >>>>>>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Christy >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 23 23:28:45 2011 From: sblomstrom at sbcglobal.net (Shelly Blomstrom) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:28:45 -0600 Subject: back to last page Message-ID: When I use the command [ to go back to the last page visited, it takes me to the top of the page. this is a recent issue. Until a couple of days ago it would take me back to the place on the page where I was before going forward a page. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Jan 23 23:38:37 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:38:37 +0000 Subject: back to last page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18A1A6CE-C85B-4108-886A-9367D34BEFCC@computing.dcu.ie> Interesting you should say this, as this particular feature has never been available to me on any of my macs. I shouldn't mention the product designed and produced by Freedom Scientology, but I do feel that there are certain web navigational facilities available on that side of the OS divide from which the VO software team could learn. On 23 Jan 2011, at 23:28, Shelly Blomstrom wrote: > When I use the command [ to go back to the last page visited, it takes me to the top of the page. this is a recent issue. Until a couple of days ago it would take me back to the place on the page where I was before going forward a page. > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 24 01:27:54 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:27:54 -0800 Subject: auto correct, more help needed? In-Reply-To: <5D286C01-4BA0-4346-A9EE-1015CF311690@virginmedia.com> References: <5B6A088D448F4DD9971084B204EB029C@andrea78cdd59a><532057FF-F784-4C3D-99E1-BEAA38184B26@gmail.com><4D3C1C44.8030109@gmail.com> <335BEF8F-EC