From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 01:45:46 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:45:46 -0700 Subject: Ceroproc Text-To-Speech In-Reply-To: <762E0BAF-64B8-4EBC-9FB6-09BEF0D5D468@mac-access.net> References: <762E0BAF-64B8-4EBC-9FB6-09BEF0D5D468@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <27747E50-634D-45E3-9D07-37683F389303@gmail.com> What have the devs said about the laggy voices? if anyone contacted them. I can't as I have no experience with them. Also what are teh system pecks people are using to test with? Take care. On Jun 30, 2011, at 3:32 PM, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Well, from reading posts on this topic, it's a real shame that folks are having problems with Ceroproc. The French voice sounds really nice. The only other synthetic speech which sounds more realistic ? maybe ? is Laquendo's. > > I wonder if Ceroproc will improve performance for mac OS X Lion? > > TC :) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 1 05:04:49 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:04:49 +1000 Subject: Truecrypt Message-ID: Hi! Some of you on the list may remember that I installed Trucrypt on the Mac several weeks ago, actually I installed it on all my computers on my home network which run multiple operating systems. I'm happy to report that Truecrypt for the Mac is excellent! a few little things to be ware of as far as accessibility goes but nothing that' going to cause any Voiceover user any real problems in the working of the software. I've got several Encrypted volumes set up on my Dropbox which I can access with Truecrypt when required, all I need do is open the name of the "Truecrypt Container" and enter the password of that container, after that I press the "Mount" button and the "Truecrypt Container" is mounted as a drive on my desktop for me to browse, modify, manipulate or whatever. Just one word of advice though, if you're serious about encrypting data and using Truecrypt to do it then read some of the documentation on the software which goes into detail about how it works, how you can customise the encryption to your needs, use different standards of encryption and so on. From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jul 1 05:31:09 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:31:09 -0500 Subject: Need help tagging audio books. In-Reply-To: <08CCA425-26CA-494C-AA77-0B1677CCC692@virginmedia.com> References: <08CCA425-26CA-494C-AA77-0B1677CCC692@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: Tagging audio books is (slightly) problematic, especially if you allow itunes to organize your library, since a lot of the audio books you'll get from itunes have the cd number, and even the track number in the title of the book. This makes things nearly impossible to keep straight, especially if you like to use cover view like I do on itunes (though I still prefer column mode in finder) So, what you need to do is make them all the same title (after all, it is the same book, just because it's another cd/track doesn't change what book it is) then make sure all of the other fields are filled out, including track number, total tracks, author, and cd number. Then, (and this is the important part) go into the options tab (not the info tab) and select the check boxes that tell itunes to skip when shuffling, remember playback position, and change the media type to audio book. If you have all of your tags correct, (title, track, cd number, and author) then the books will sort in the proper order, and you won't have any problems with itunes messing with your order. This should do the trick for you, hope it helps. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 08:29:01 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 09:29:01 +0200 Subject: Other Voices for VoiceOver on the Mac In-Reply-To: <20110630185330.AA39.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <16C56D44-CCB0-4DA6-9BB0-BF9158FDC420@mac.com> <2894A916-86A4-420B-88B0-3B3477FD37B9@gmail.com> <20110630185330.AA39.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <67EF27F5-FA67-4B48-B6D0-2052B7CA0B69@gmail.com> Hi, Well, for your information, at least those who want to know, I got very positive feedback about the Ivona voices. Short but sweet feedback, though, and while it doesn't say much and may just be a ploy to make me shut up, I doubt it. :) SO, in any case, it sounds like we'll get more options. This is what they told me, and this was an improvement. Hello. Thank you for your interest in our software. Yes, we want our voices to work under MacOS also, but we are still working on it. I didn't include the last part of the message because it pertained to subscribing to their product news. Regards, Nic On Jul 1, 2011, at 12:53 AM, Chris G wrote: > I've used and own about 6 of the ivona voices under Windows. In my > opinion they are the most responsive and clearest voices around. > Hopefully they will come to the mac soon. > Chris > > > > On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:05:15 +0200 > Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi Esther, >> >> I actually wrote to Loquendo not that long ago, and they told me that at the time, they were still considering it. I don't know if any work is going to be done, but they were very responsive. Similarly, that also applies to Ivona TTS from >> http://www.ivonatts.com >> >> The voices are also quite nice to listen to, and they're thinking about the Mac as well. They seemed a bit more enthusiastic. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jun 30, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi D?nal, >>> >>> As a follow-on to Dane's question about the Cereproc voices, do you know whether Loquendo has any voices that can work on the Mac? On the iOS devices I've found their voices, along with the Acapela (aka Infovox) voices, to be the best synths. However, I've never seen these made available for purchase on the Mac. The main reason for asking is that the support some other languages that are not available through Acapela, and there are also a few other options where the language coverage overlaps (such as a good male voice for Russian). >>> >>> For Dane and others with the iPad, there's a free translation app in the App Store by Sonico GmbH called "iTranslate - free Translator": >>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/itranslate-free-translator/id397730127?mt=8 >>> >>> There are voices for English, French, German, Dutch, Italian, Spanish, Catalan, Portuguese, Danish, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, Polish, Russian, Japanese, Chinese, and Korean included with the free app. (For the iPhone version, you can buy voices for $1.99 each, and select among other voices for these languages -- the iPad app just has one of the Loquendo voices to represent the language). I've been pasting text into this and letting the voice read out samples of various languages (bypassing the translation usage just to use this app for short bits of text to speech in other languages.) >>> >>> It would be nice have alternative voice selections for other languages that are not covered by the Acapela Group, in addition to the upcoming Lion implementation of default voices . >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > - > The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. > http://www.mysticplace.info > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Fri Jul 1 13:16:48 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 13:16:48 +0100 Subject: I have no noise on my iPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E5CB0FA-7A87-42EE-97D8-4149B55CF486@virginmedia.com> ooh what am i like james thanks matey thats done it and that was the only thing that i did not try typical lol but thank you james smiley On 30 Jun 2011, at 22:27, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > Hey Jules, > > Perhaps you've inadvertently flicked the mute switch which is on the top left-hand side of the IPhone as you hold it with the "Home" button facing you. > > HTH > TC :) > James > On 30 Jun 2011, at 22:07, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> Hi when playing games I do jut have any sound I have disabled something and not sure what voice over is running fine >> >> Hope I have explained myself ok >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Jules >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Fri Jul 1 13:20:33 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 13:20:33 +0100 Subject: I have no noise on my iPhone In-Reply-To: <605AF791-A3BA-489E-85C8-2D7F8F8EB5C1@mac.com> References: <605AF791-A3BA-489E-85C8-2D7F8F8EB5C1@mac.com> Message-ID: <5C4637F5-3A9E-4DDF-922F-541C1D5AB94F@virginmedia.com> thanks ester On 30 Jun 2011, at 22:46, Esther wrote: > Hi All, > > Just to add to James' post, if VoiceOver is working, but other sounds from a game have disappeared, it's most likely due to having the mute switch on the top left side of the iPhone flicked on (in the down position to mute sounds). However, as a reminder for iPad users, I believe the default setting for the side switch (at the top right side of the iPad when it is held in portrait mode with the home button at the bottom), is assigned to "Mute". This is the switch just above the long volume control rocker near the top of the device, and it can be assigned to either "Lock Rotation" or "Mute" under the main Settings menu under Settings > General. In the previous version of iOS is was set to the "Mute" function, which led to frequent instances of problems such as Jules reported. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 30, 2011, at 11:27, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hey Jules, >> >> Perhaps you've inadvertently flicked the mute switch which is on the top left-hand side of the IPhone as you hold it with the "Home" button facing you. >> >> HTH >> TC :) >> James >> On 30 Jun 2011, at 22:07, Julie Vaughan wrote: >> >>> Hi when playing games I do jut have any sound I have disabled something and not sure what voice over is running fine >>> >>> Hope I have explained myself ok >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> Jules >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Fri Jul 1 17:11:05 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 12:11:05 -0400 Subject: A question about using multiple languages and voices on the Mac versus the iPad Message-ID: Greetings All, The recent thread regarding additional voices for the Mac was a timely one as I have just finished my first week of a five week "Elementary Spanish 101" college course. I'm a native speaker of US English and one of the wonderful things I quickly discovered this week is that I can use the rotor on my iPad to switch on-the-fly between the built-in Spanish and English voices and thus achieve correct pronunciation of both the English and Spanish text in the various e-textbooks and online resources used in the class. I can also, of course, slow down the speech rate and navigate the text by cursor to help learn the spelling of the words. So far, I've not needed to make any changes to the actual language or keyboard settings on the ipad as I seem to be able to type accented characters when required using the option key on my bluetooth keyboard. My question is, if I purchase a Spanish voice for my Mac, can I expect to experience the same easy switching between language voices that I'm experiencing on my iPad? If yes, are any of the third party voices easier to switch between? Would it make sense just to wait for the release of Lion, which, as Apple has announced publicly, will have multiple VO voices available. If you're wondering why I don't just use the iPad for all of this, the answer is that I'm just more comfortable doing this sort of thing on the Mac. I don't object to the voices on the i-devices. In fact, I find the male Spanish and female Spanish (Mexico) voices to be very understandable, but that might just be my untrained ear. . I'm also anticipating needing to produce written documents that are properly formatted and, while I've got Pages on the iPad, I'm not sure that I can trust it when crunch time arrives. At this point I anticipate primarily using the iPad for this 5 week class, but I will be taking 3 more semesters of Spanish beginning in late August, so I'm hoping to have a Mac-based solution in place by that time. Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Bryan From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Jul 1 17:25:23 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:25:23 +0200 Subject: A question about using multiple languages and voices on the Mac versus the iPad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C151017-C4CF-4A23-A63D-53E35FD867FB@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Bryan, Since you're used to getting the accents on your bluetooth keyboard with your iPad, you'll have no problem on the Mac as they work the same way. Alternatively, it's easy to switch keyboard layouts on the Mac, which is what I do when I have a lot of French text to type as it's quicker than using Option whatever and then typing the letter. As for switching languages on the Mac, it's just a matter of switching voices, VO-Cmd-Down arrow, as long as you've left the voice rotor at that position. The only voices in other languages that work well with the Mac are those made by Acapela and sold by Assistiveware. They cost ?99 before tax for the particular language pack, however many voices that may include. However, you might prefer to wait for Lion, since you'll then get voices in other languages as part of the OS. If you're happy with the quality of the voices on your iPad, then chances are, you'll be happy with the voices that will come with Lion, assuming they're of similar quality. Cheers, Anne On Jul 1, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Greetings All, > > The recent thread regarding additional voices for the Mac was a timely one as I have just finished my first week of a five week "Elementary Spanish 101" college course. I'm a native speaker of US English and one of the wonderful things I quickly discovered this week is that I can use the rotor on my iPad to switch on-the-fly between the built-in Spanish and English voices and thus achieve correct pronunciation of both the English and Spanish text in the various e-textbooks and online resources used in the class. I can also, of course, slow down the speech rate and navigate the text by cursor to help learn the spelling of the words. So far, I've not needed to make any changes to the actual language or keyboard settings on the ipad as I seem to be able to type accented characters when required using the option key on my bluetooth keyboard. > > My question is, if I purchase a Spanish voice for my Mac, can I expect to experience the same easy switching between language voices that I'm experiencing on my iPad? If yes, are any of the third party voices easier to switch between? Would it make sense just to wait for the release of Lion, which, as Apple has announced publicly, will have multiple VO voices available. > > If you're wondering why I don't just use the iPad for all of this, the answer is that I'm just more comfortable doing this sort of thing on the Mac. I don't object to the voices on the i-devices. In fact, I find the male Spanish and female Spanish (Mexico) voices to be very understandable, but that might just be my untrained ear. . I'm also anticipating needing to produce written documents that are properly formatted and, while I've got Pages on the iPad, I'm not sure that I can trust it when crunch time arrives. At this point I anticipate primarily using the iPad for this 5 week class, but I will be taking 3 more semesters of Spanish beginning in late August, so I'm hoping to have a Mac-based solution in place by that time. > > Any thoughts greatly appreciated, > Bryan > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 1 17:39:54 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 02:39:54 +1000 Subject: Copying links to files in the public folder of a Dropbox account Message-ID: <37987777-007E-4CEB-B045-6F36094BD94B@internode.on.net> Hi! I know this can be done on a Mac, Windows PC etc running the Dropbox client, I'm curious to know therefore if there are any ways to do this on an Ipad? I'm assuming if it can be done you'd use the Dropbox client for Ipad, Filer or something similar. From moriond at mac.com Fri Jul 1 20:24:49 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:24:49 -1000 Subject: A question about using multiple languages and voices on the Mac versus the iPad In-Reply-To: <9C151017-C4CF-4A23-A63D-53E35FD867FB@anarchie.org.uk> References: <9C151017-C4CF-4A23-A63D-53E35FD867FB@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <46B9CC9A-A500-442D-82A1-3759EC3B3CDD@mac.com> Hello Bryan, Anne has already answered some of your questions about using multiple languages on the Mac, so I'll just add a few comments. You may be happy with using the option key sequences to type accents. The Spanish input language keyboard is relatively easy to switch to if you want to type accented characters and still have most of the letter keys in the regular locations that you're used to. If you use a Bluetooth keyboard, you can switch input languages with Command+Space and Shift+Command+Space on the iPad. This is the same default shortcut for the Mac, but it conflicts with/predates Command+Space for Spotlight, so I use Option+Space on the Mac. (If you enable keyboard shortcuts for switching input language on the Mac simply by checking the box and not specifying a shortcut, your shortcut will be Command+Space, and Spotlight search will be remapped.) You also have a few more input options: if you're using TextExpander Touch on your iPad or iPhone (or on your Mac), there's a set of Spanish snippets that was posted on the SmileOnMyMac blog you can download. This lets you type accented characters with regular keys (for example, press tilde then "n" to type the accented "n") on either the virtual or Bluetooth/regular keyboard. You may, indeed, wish to wait to learn about the voices that will be available in Lion. However, I'd recommend that you get the "Speak It!" text to speech app ($1.99 includes 4 English voices; $0.99 for each other language voice) by FutureApps, and add one of the American Spanish or Spanish voices for $0.99. "Speak It!" uses the Acapela group voices, and you can control the speech rate in the settings. You can also set it to record (short) spoken bits of text (in uncompressed AIFF files) and save them in the app or send them as a mail attachment. If you're just using this to speak text, there's still a limit, but it's pretty large -- I had it speak a file with about 27,300 words (novella length). I like this app a lot. You can read more details about using this in the list archives: ? "Speak It! app to use Infovox voices on the iPhone/iPod Touch and iPad" April 20, 2010 http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/2010/000124.html Here's the link to the app in the App Store: ? Speak It! Text to Speech ($1.99) by FutureApps is available internationally at the iTunes Store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/speak-it-text-to-speech/id308629295?mt=8 Just a warning that you have to use the app in landscape orientation on the iPad if you want to access all the menus (e.g. the voice selection, history options, etc.) If you use it in portrait mode you won't find the options to buy other voices or change them, among other things, so if you're wondering why some of your menus are dimmed, switch to landscape mode here! If you do decide to eventually by the Acapela Group Infovox voices, there's a U.S. distributor you can contact directly for sales (Orin Instruments in Texas). Prices are $99 for the first voice pack, but $49 for the successive language packs (except for the Scandinavian voices, which cost more), and there are other bundle discounts. A nice addition is their Ghost Reader software ("convenienceware" that is not specifically for the blind) for an additional $10 which has some additional features for easily recording text and for recording text when you want to switch between Infovox voices in other languages. As Anne said, you might want to wait till Lion's release before deciding. The Infovox voice samples and download links are at: http://www.assistiveware.com/ivoxsamples.php Incidentally, there was a nice interview with David Niemeijer of Assistiveware on the TUAW (The Unofficial Apple Weblog) web site a week ago as part of their interviews with developers during the June WWDC. They do additional work with Apple to make sure that the Infovox voices are compatible with assistive technology products on the Mac, and I suspect this is why these voices are so robust with VoiceOver. Cheers, Esther On Jul 1, 2011, at 06:25, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Bryan, > > Since you're used to getting the accents on your bluetooth keyboard with your iPad, you'll have no problem on the Mac as they work the same way. Alternatively, it's easy to switch keyboard layouts on the Mac, which is what I do when I have a lot of French text to type as it's quicker than using Option whatever and then typing the letter. > > As for switching languages on the Mac, it's just a matter of switching voices, VO-Cmd-Down arrow, as long as you've left the voice rotor at that position. > > The only voices in other languages that work well with the Mac are those made by Acapela and sold by Assistiveware. They cost ?99 before tax for the particular language pack, however many voices that may include. > > However, you might prefer to wait for Lion, since you'll then get voices in other languages as part of the OS. If you're happy with the quality of the voices on your iPad, then chances are, you'll be happy with the voices that will come with Lion, assuming they're of similar quality. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > On Jul 1, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Greetings All, >> >> The recent thread regarding additional voices for the Mac was a timely one as I have just finished my first week of a five week "Elementary Spanish 101" college course. I'm a native speaker of US English and one of the wonderful things I quickly discovered this week is that I can use the rotor on my iPad to switch on-the-fly between the built-in Spanish and English voices and thus achieve correct pronunciation of both the English and Spanish text in the various e-textbooks and online resources used in the class. I can also, of course, slow down the speech rate and navigate the text by cursor to help learn the spelling of the words. So far, I've not needed to make any changes to the actual language or keyboard settings on the ipad as I seem to be able to type accented characters when required using the option key on my bluetooth keyboard. >> >> My question is, if I purchase a Spanish voice for my Mac, can I expect to experience the same easy switching between language voices that I'm experiencing on my iPad? If yes, are any of the third party voices easier to switch between? Would it make sense just to wait for the release of Lion, which, as Apple has announced publicly, will have multiple VO voices available. >> >> If you're wondering why I don't just use the iPad for all of this, the answer is that I'm just more comfortable doing this sort of thing on the Mac. I don't object to the voices on the i-devices. In fact, I find the male Spanish and female Spanish (Mexico) voices to be very understandable, but that might just be my untrained ear. . I'm also anticipating needing to produce written documents that are properly formatted and, while I've got Pages on the iPad, I'm not sure that I can trust it when crunch time arrives. At this point I anticipate primarily using the iPad for this 5 week class, but I will be taking 3 more semesters of Spanish beginning in late August, so I'm hoping to have a Mac-based solution in place by that time. >> >> Any thoughts greatly appreciated, >> Bryan >> From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 20:41:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:41:50 -0700 Subject: Copying links to files in the public folder of a Dropbox account In-Reply-To: <37987777-007E-4CEB-B045-6F36094BD94B@internode.on.net> References: <37987777-007E-4CEB-B045-6F36094BD94B@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <148C5425-67B3-461A-AAAC-FBB3D0E9A343@gmail.com> Yeah. double tap the file, then double tap share and you should be good to go. Take care. On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > I know this can be done on a Mac, Windows PC etc running the Dropbox client, I'm curious to know therefore if there are any ways to do this on an Ipad? I'm assuming if it can be done you'd use the Dropbox client for Ipad, Filer or something similar. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 21:03:57 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 16:03:57 -0400 Subject: Running an xCode build. Message-ID: Greetings all, In xCode 4.0.2, I created a command line tool. I specified c++ as the type and did not check the box labeled: Create local git repository for this project"; not sure what that does yet, but assume it wasn't needed for my purpose. My purpose in fact was to build my first c++ program. To that end I included iostream using iostream and a cout << line. The build appears to have completed without errors (unless I don't know where to look, but there wasn't much opportunity to screw this up :) ). When I press command-r VO says "system dialog interact with", but the string specified in my cout statement is not visible anywhere. In the project folder I am not seeing a .app file. My question then is how to view my run output (assuming I have any)? TIA for any getting started tips and best regards. Geoff From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 21:29:23 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 16:29:23 -0400 Subject: Running an xCode build. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D66B32F-C695-4E0E-96CA-F88A5AFC6AF5@gmail.com> 1. GIT is a revision control system made famous by Linux. It keeps a copy of every change you make and has the ability to link over the network. I believe there is a git.org where anybody can put opensource project to share. 2. A command line program would not have a ".app" I would expect just a single binary. I have not yet delved into programming on the Macintosh usinging the Apple tools. Please keep us (or me ) up to date with your progrress. Jonathan jon.c.cohn at gmail.com joncohn at cox.net On Jul 1, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings all, > > In xCode 4.0.2, I created a command line tool. I specified c++ as the type and did not check the box labeled: Create local git repository for this project"; not sure what that does yet, but assume it wasn't needed for my purpose. > > My purpose in fact was to build my first c++ program. To that end I included iostream using iostream and a cout << line. > > The build appears to have completed without errors (unless I don't know where to look, but there wasn't much opportunity to screw this up :) ). When I press command-r VO says "system dialog interact with", but the string specified in my cout statement is not visible anywhere. > > In the project folder I am not seeing a .app file. My question then is how to view my run output (assuming I have any)? > > TIA for any getting started tips and best regards. > Geoff > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Jul 1 22:34:25 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:34:25 -1000 Subject: FileChute is today's MacUpdate Promo [was Re: Copying links to files in the public folder of a Dropbox account] In-Reply-To: <37987777-007E-4CEB-B045-6F36094BD94B@internode.on.net> References: <37987777-007E-4CEB-B045-6F36094BD94B@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hi Dane, I'me not sure whether there's a way to copy links to files from the Dropbox app on the iPad, but you reminded me that for MobileMe users there's a nice program called FileChute from YellowMug software that is today's Macupdate Promo ($8.39 at 50% off). FileChute... How many times have you tried to email a large file only to have it bounced? There is an easier way to send large files and you have just found it. FileChute makes sending files easy. Just drag a file and drop it on FileChute. FileChute puts the file on your MobileMe account and generates a web link for retrieving the file all in one step. Next drag the generated link into your email and you're set to go. And since what you're sending is just a link, your recipients can retrieve the file from a Mac, a PC or any other platform. You can even drop multiple files or folders at once. FileChute automatically creates an archive in the format of your choice - it supports dmg, zip and tar - and sends the archive file. FileChute works best with a MobileMe account, configuration is super easy. But since not everyone has a MobileMe account, FileChute also works great with other FTP or WebDAV-accessible web server. Perform the one-time set up by following the built-in Help. Once it is properly set up, FileChute works just as perfectly with non-MobileMe servers. This is likely not for everyone, because it's possible to do this (with more effort) without this program. I'm reminded of the recent discussions of setting up Dropbox. Well, if you already have a MobileMe account with disk space, this is a very easy way to share files. Just select them with Command-O instead of using drag and drop. There are several things this app does transparently that using MobileMe and iDisk doesn't do automatically. For one thing, it makes it much easier for the recipient of your email to simply click on the link and get downloaded files without figuring out how to access them. You can automatically set up an expiry time for the availability of the link (and either extend it or not on your end). You don't have to worry about telling someone which, of the many files on your site, they should try to get. They only see the files that you've linked, and no others. You don't have to worry about creating folder and directory structure. You may not find these features worth the price, but setting up the link to your account and then setting up links to send to a friend is super simple. I originally looked into this two years ago when Scott Howell was looking for an easy way to make large recordings of his band sessions available to other members of his group -- some of whom found web site link access a very opaque process. At the time, MobileMe was a mess. And this FileChute program was super simple to use. There's a trial download that you can check out. I kept the trial around for over a year before I decided to buy it. Those posts predated our current archives, but I can dig up answers if there are questions. A lot of people won't use this, but a few will find it very handy. I suspect this will also work for the Cloud services after the transition to iCloud: ? MacUpdate Promo link to FileChute 4.3.9 by YellowMug Software for $8.95 today http://www.mupromo.com/deal/1568/7024/filechute The developer is responsive to suggestions. Cheers, Esther On Jul 1, 2011, at 06:39, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > I know this can be done on a Mac, Windows PC etc running the Dropbox client, I'm curious to know therefore if there are any ways to do this on an Ipad? I'm assuming if it can be done you'd use the Dropbox client for Ipad, Filer or something similar. > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 1 23:53:31 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 08:53:31 +1000 Subject: FileChute is today's MacUpdate Promo [was Re: Copying links to files in the public folder of a Dropbox account] In-Reply-To: References: <37987777-007E-4CEB-B045-6F36094BD94B@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4E0E4FEB.3030300@internode.on.net> Yep that is a nice piece of software and I use it here, have done for quite some time now. On 2/07/2011 7:34 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Dane, > > I'me not sure whether there's a way to copy links to files from the Dropbox app on the iPad, but you reminded me that for MobileMe users there's a nice program called FileChute from YellowMug software that is today's Macupdate Promo ($8.39 at 50% off). > > FileChute... How many times have you tried to email a large file only to have it bounced? There is an easier way to send large files and you have just found it. > FileChute makes sending files easy. Just drag a file and drop it on FileChute. FileChute puts the file on your MobileMe account and generates a web link for retrieving the file all in one step. Next drag the generated link into your email and you're set to go. And since what you're sending is just a link, your recipients can retrieve the file from a Mac, a PC or any other platform. You can even drop multiple files or folders at once. FileChute automatically creates an archive in the format of your choice - it supports dmg, zip and tar - and sends the archive file. > > FileChute works best with a MobileMe account, configuration is super easy. But since not everyone has a MobileMe account, FileChute also works great with other FTP or WebDAV-accessible web server. Perform the one-time set up by following the built-in Help. Once it is properly set up, FileChute works just as perfectly with non-MobileMe servers. > > > This is likely not for everyone, because it's possible to do this (with more effort) without this program. I'm reminded of the recent discussions of setting up Dropbox. Well, if you already have a MobileMe account with disk space, this is a very easy way to share files. Just select them with Command-O instead of using drag and drop. There are several things this app does transparently that using MobileMe and iDisk doesn't do automatically. For one thing, it makes it much easier for the recipient of your email to simply click on the link and get downloaded files without figuring out how to access them. You can automatically set up an expiry time for the availability of the link (and either extend it or not on your end). You don't have to worry about telling someone which, of the many files on your site, they should try to get. They only see the files that you've linked, and no others. You don't have to worry about creating folder and directory structure. > > You may not find these features worth the price, but setting up the link to your account and then setting up links to send to a friend is super simple. I originally looked into this two years ago when Scott Howell was looking for an easy way to make large recordings of his band sessions available to other members of his group -- some of whom found web site link access a very opaque process. At the time, MobileMe was a mess. And this FileChute program was super simple to use. There's a trial download that you can check out. I kept the trial around for over a year before I decided to buy it. Those posts predated our current archives, but I can dig up answers if there are questions. > > A lot of people won't use this, but a few will find it very handy. I suspect this will also work for the Cloud services after the transition to iCloud: > > ? MacUpdate Promo link to FileChute 4.3.9 by YellowMug Software for $8.95 today > http://www.mupromo.com/deal/1568/7024/filechute > > The developer is responsive to suggestions. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jul 1, 2011, at 06:39, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I know this can be done on a Mac, Windows PC etc running the Dropbox client, I'm curious to know therefore if there are any ways to do this on an Ipad? I'm assuming if it can be done you'd use the Dropbox client for Ipad, Filer or something similar. >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Sat Jul 2 01:14:50 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 10:14:50 +1000 Subject: basic questions for the mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All. I have some basic questions since I have purchased a MACBook Pro. . Now I have the chance to play and learn 1. HOw do you move apps or docs to the dock with the keyboard? Is there a hot key when you select the item? 2. How do you apply settings to all accounts when you are in the admin account? 3. What is a smart folder? Is it a filter? 4. HOw do you drop items on to the desktop? 5. How do you select multiple items in a continuous or non-contiguous fashion with the keyboard? 6. In Itunes, the help refers to unselecting all checked items by pressing command click. How do you do this via the keyboard? Basically I am trying to uncheck all the items being shown. So I can then select the items I want to add to the new play list. 7. I was trying to install VLC and have no idea how to do this? I have downloaded the file. It has appeared on the desktop. as a volume. When I open the volume, select VLC it loads. But I don't know how to install. Sean From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Sat Jul 2 01:18:47 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 10:18:47 +1000 Subject: Need help tagging audio books. In-Reply-To: References: <08CCA425-26CA-494C-AA77-0B1677CCC692@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: Travis Do you know of a tool under the MAC that does auto label correction for music/audiobooks? Sean On 01/07/2011, at 2:31 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Tagging audio books is (slightly) problematic, especially if you allow itunes to organize your library, since a lot of the audio books you'll get from itunes have the cd number, and even the track number in the title of the book. This makes things nearly impossible to keep straight, especially if you like to use cover view like I do on itunes (though I still prefer column mode in finder) So, what you need to do is make them all the same title (after all, it is the same book, just because it's another cd/track doesn't change what book it is) then make sure all of the other fields are filled out, including track number, total tracks, author, and cd number. Then, (and this is the important part) go into the options tab (not the info tab) and select the check boxes that tell itunes to skip when shuffling, remember playback position, and change the media type to audio book. > If you have all of your tags correct, (title, track, cd number, and author) then the books will sort in the proper order, and you won't have any problems with itunes messing with your order. > > This should do the trick for you, hope it helps. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sat Jul 2 02:12:32 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 21:12:32 -0400 Subject: basic questions for the mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4e0e707b.0d41340a.5632.710a@mx.google.com> When a program is running it should appear in the dock. what I think you mean is how do you get the icon to show up in the dock even when the program is not running. What you do is, run the program, then go to the dock and find the icon of your program. When it is highlighted hit VO-shift-m and this will bring up a menu. From there you can choose to have it show in the dock. I forget the exact wording but it's clear what it means. hth Kevin At 08:14 PM 7/1/2011, you wrote: >Hi All. > >I have some basic questions since I have purchased a MACBook Pro. . > >Now I have the chance to play and learn > > >1. HOw do you move apps or docs to the dock with the keyboard? Is >there a hot key when you select the item? > >2. How do you apply settings to all accounts when you are in the >admin account? > >3. What is a smart folder? Is it a filter? > >4. HOw do you drop items on to the desktop? > >5. How do you select multiple items in a continuous or >non-contiguous fashion with the keyboard? > >6. In Itunes, the help refers to unselecting all checked items by >pressing command click. How do you do this via the keyboard? >Basically I am trying to uncheck all the items being shown. So I can >then select the items I want to add to the new play list. > >7. I was trying to install VLC and have no idea how to do this? I >have downloaded the file. It has appeared on the desktop. as a >volume. When I open the volume, select VLC it loads. But I don't >know how to install. > >Sean ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 2 02:19:41 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 02:19:41 +0100 Subject: basic questions for the mac In-Reply-To: <4e0e707b.0d41340a.5632.710a@mx.google.com> References: <4e0e707b.0d41340a.5632.710a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <99CE032B-001B-4C57-8898-44EDE2A5E1B4@mac-access.net> Hello Sean & Kevin I think this requires a little clarification. 1. Run your application. 2. Press VO+D or Control+F3 to open the dock. 3. VO+Arrow or tab to select the item youi want. You can also type the first few letters of its name and you'll hear the word "Running" after it. 4. With the item under your VoiceOver cursor, press VoiceOver+Shift+M. 5. I think your cursor will already be on Options but, move up/down using the unmodified cursor keys. Then when you have Options highlighted press the right-arrow key. You will then hear things like "Open at log-in", "Hide" and "Add To Dock". When you hear Add to Dock, hit enter and you are done. Tip: To sort your dock alphabetically, drag an app into position by using Option+Left/Right arrow keys. I hope this helps to clarify a little, Sean. Lynne On 2 Jul 2011, at 02:12, Kevin Barry wrote: When a program is running it should appear in the dock. what I think you mean is how do you get the icon to show up in the dock even when the program is not running. What you do is, run the program, then go to the dock and find the icon of your program. When it is highlighted hit VO-shift-m and this will bring up a menu. From there you can choose to have it show in the dock. I forget the exact wording but it's clear what it means. hth Kevin At 08:14 PM 7/1/2011, you wrote: > Hi All. > > I have some basic questions since I have purchased a MACBook Pro. . > > Now I have the chance to play and learn > > > 1. HOw do you move apps or docs to the dock with the keyboard? Is there a hot key when you select the item? > > 2. How do you apply settings to all accounts when you are in the admin account? > > 3. What is a smart folder? Is it a filter? > > 4. HOw do you drop items on to the desktop? > > 5. How do you select multiple items in a continuous or non-contiguous fashion with the keyboard? > > 6. In Itunes, the help refers to unselecting all checked items by pressing command click. How do you do this via the keyboard? Basically I am trying to uncheck all the items being shown. So I can then select the items I want to add to the new play list. > > 7. I was trying to install VLC and have no idea how to do this? I have downloaded the file. It has appeared on the desktop. as a volume. When I open the volume, select VLC it loads. But I don't know how to install. > > Sean > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jul 2 03:26:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 19:26:53 -0700 Subject: xld is good but ... Message-ID: Well i'm trying to contact the dev about an access issue I'm finding. he told me he doesn't speak english and does not under my speaking so to explain it all in emails and text. I did but he still is not getting it. Here is what I was trying to explain to him and he dies not even believe me. This is beyond frustrating and we are both getting no ware fast with this issue. Maybe someone who speaks his language can translate what I say and stuff.http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/xld%20issues.mp3 I an provide email conversations but the email will be too big. Take care. and hope you have better luck then I do.. His email is tmkk at smoug.net and I have a youtube vid that's private but there's no sound that disgusses this. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Sat Jul 2 05:36:37 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 14:36:37 +1000 Subject: basic questions for the mac In-Reply-To: <99CE032B-001B-4C57-8898-44EDE2A5E1B4@mac-access.net> References: <4e0e707b.0d41340a.5632.710a@mx.google.com> <99CE032B-001B-4C57-8898-44EDE2A5E1B4@mac-access.net> Message-ID: All. Thanks, that resolves the docking issue. Sean On 02/07/2011, at 11:19 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sean & Kevin > > I think this requires a little clarification. > > 1. Run your application. > > 2. Press VO+D or Control+F3 to open the dock. > > 3. VO+Arrow or tab to select the item youi want. You can also type the first few letters of its name and you'll hear the word "Running" after it. > > 4. With the item under your VoiceOver cursor, press VoiceOver+Shift+M. > > 5. I think your cursor will already be on Options but, move up/down using the unmodified cursor keys. Then when you have Options highlighted press the right-arrow key. > > You will then hear things like "Open at log-in", "Hide" and "Add To Dock". When you hear Add to Dock, hit enter and you are done. > > Tip: To sort your dock alphabetically, drag an app into position by using Option+Left/Right arrow keys. > > I hope this helps to clarify a little, Sean. > > Lynne > > > On 2 Jul 2011, at 02:12, Kevin Barry wrote: > > When a program is running it should appear in the dock. > what I think you mean is how do you get the icon to show up in the dock even when the program is not running. > What you do is, run the program, then go to the dock and find the icon of your program. > When it is highlighted hit VO-shift-m and this will bring up a menu. > From there you can choose to have it show in the dock. > I forget the exact wording but it's clear what it means. > hth > Kevin > > At 08:14 PM 7/1/2011, you wrote: >> Hi All. >> >> I have some basic questions since I have purchased a MACBook Pro. . >> >> Now I have the chance to play and learn >> >> >> 1. HOw do you move apps or docs to the dock with the keyboard? Is there a hot key when you select the item? >> >> 2. How do you apply settings to all accounts when you are in the admin account? >> >> 3. What is a smart folder? Is it a filter? >> >> 4. HOw do you drop items on to the desktop? >> >> 5. How do you select multiple items in a continuous or non-contiguous fashion with the keyboard? >> >> 6. In Itunes, the help refers to unselecting all checked items by pressing command click. How do you do this via the keyboard? Basically I am trying to uncheck all the items being shown. So I can then select the items I want to add to the new play list. >> >> 7. I was trying to install VLC and have no idea how to do this? I have downloaded the file. It has appeared on the desktop. as a volume. When I open the volume, select VLC it loads. But I don't know how to install. >> >> Sean >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jul 2 12:27:27 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:27:27 +0200 Subject: basic questions for the mac In-Reply-To: References: <4e0e707b.0d41340a.5632.710a@mx.google.com> <99CE032B-001B-4C57-8898-44EDE2A5E1B4@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <82A37C8F-60EB-4D3F-BE2F-F2CF1F398A3E@gmail.com> Hello Sean, You can also hit Command-Shift-T on any item that you want added to the dock, such as an application, file or folder. Note that if it is a folder, you may have to use VO-Shift-M to open up the contextual menu, then select "open." This will open it in a new Finder window. Additionally, you can also select "list" in the dock item so that it will display it as a list when you hit enter on the folder. By default, it is set to "stack" which VoiceOver will not work with. Setting it to "list" will cause it to show up as a popup menu, however note that you can set multiple options like "grid" or "fan" and these options do not apply to all folders in your Dock. However, you may find this method of displaying folders from the Dock faster if you set it for all folders in your Dock, as you no longer have to bring up a contextual menu to open the folder. Of course, using this method causes it to be displayed in a manner you may not be familiar with. I don't understand your question regarding administrator accounts. As an administrator, you of course have access to all users and their information, and you can also change it if you click the lock to make changes, then enter your administrator password (if you have one.) If you are talking about other users and settings applied across the board. When you create a new user, each user has their own home folder. Their Home folder is the folder where all their downloads, music such as their iTunes libraries and so-forth are stored securely. Secondly, users can apply their own settings without affecting other users, but are unable to install software or make important computer changes unless that user is an administrator as well. Smart Folders automatically use Spotlight search in order to gather information about your files, then organize them by various criteria as well as type and subject matter into folders. These folders that you create automatically add, remove or change files should you remove a file from its original location, or change it on your computer. It's a very handy way of collecting files if you wish to copy them elsewhere, and the criteria that you can search by are also very wide. There really isn't a lot to say about them. If you wish to drop something to the desktop, the fastest way right now is simply copying it if possible, or making aliases with Command-L on the file, then copying it to the desktop then delete the original alias. Of course, if you can afford the space, you can just use Command-C to copy an item, then put it on the desktop with command-V. If you wish to select contiguous items, you can simply hold down the shift key while hitting down arrow in a table, text area, etc. Incidentally, should you wish to select non-contiguous items, do the following. 1) Find the first item you wish to select with either the keyboard or the VoiceOver keys. 2) Hit VO-Shift-F3. This turns off cursor tracking, enabling you to use the VoiceOver keys to select items as moving the keyboard now would simply deselect all items, then select the current one which has focus. 3) Hit Vo-Command-SPace on every item that you wish to select as you move down using VO-DOwn arrow, then hit Command-C to copy them if that is what you wish to do. 4) Now, hit VO-Shift-F3 to switch cursor tracking back on. As for iTunes, you should have checkboxes in the table. You should be able to deselect these, then add the ones you want to the playlist that are still checked. There may be easier ways to do this, but this is what I use. To install an application which is .app, you can simply hit Command-C on the application within the disk image, then hit Command-Shift-A to go straight to your Applications folder. No, hit Command-V to drop the item here. if it is an mpkg file, you will find a lot of similarities between Windows executables .exe files. This is an installer which allows you to select where to install and what settings to include, and this method is primarily used for large applications which require multiple components to run. It is probably worth going into your Finder preferences with Command-Comma from the Finder, then interact with the toolbar. Vo-right until you get to "Advanced" then hit VO-Space to select it. Stop interacting with the toolbar, then VO-Right. The first checkbox you will find is called "Show all filename extensions" and is definitely worth checking in my own opinion. I hope this helps. Don't hesitate to ask more questions. :) Regards, Nic On Jul 2, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > All. > > Thanks, that resolves the docking issue. > > Sean > On 02/07/2011, at 11:19 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Sean & Kevin >> >> I think this requires a little clarification. >> >> 1. Run your application. >> >> 2. Press VO+D or Control+F3 to open the dock. >> >> 3. VO+Arrow or tab to select the item youi want. You can also type the first few letters of its name and you'll hear the word "Running" after it. >> >> 4. With the item under your VoiceOver cursor, press VoiceOver+Shift+M. >> >> 5. I think your cursor will already be on Options but, move up/down using the unmodified cursor keys. Then when you have Options highlighted press the right-arrow key. >> >> You will then hear things like "Open at log-in", "Hide" and "Add To Dock". When you hear Add to Dock, hit enter and you are done. >> >> Tip: To sort your dock alphabetically, drag an app into position by using Option+Left/Right arrow keys. >> >> I hope this helps to clarify a little, Sean. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> On 2 Jul 2011, at 02:12, Kevin Barry wrote: >> >> When a program is running it should appear in the dock. >> what I think you mean is how do you get the icon to show up in the dock even when the program is not running. >> What you do is, run the program, then go to the dock and find the icon of your program. >> When it is highlighted hit VO-shift-m and this will bring up a menu. >> From there you can choose to have it show in the dock. >> I forget the exact wording but it's clear what it means. >> hth >> Kevin >> >> At 08:14 PM 7/1/2011, you wrote: >>> Hi All. >>> >>> I have some basic questions since I have purchased a MACBook Pro. . >>> >>> Now I have the chance to play and learn >>> >>> >>> 1. HOw do you move apps or docs to the dock with the keyboard? Is there a hot key when you select the item? >>> >>> 2. How do you apply settings to all accounts when you are in the admin account? >>> >>> 3. What is a smart folder? Is it a filter? >>> >>> 4. HOw do you drop items on to the desktop? >>> >>> 5. How do you select multiple items in a continuous or non-contiguous fashion with the keyboard? >>> >>> 6. In Itunes, the help refers to unselecting all checked items by pressing command click. How do you do this via the keyboard? Basically I am trying to uncheck all the items being shown. So I can then select the items I want to add to the new play list. >>> >>> 7. I was trying to install VLC and have no idea how to do this? I have downloaded the file. It has appeared on the desktop. as a volume. When I open the volume, select VLC it loads. But I don't know how to install. >>> >>> Sean >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Sat Jul 2 12:32:52 2011 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 12:32:52 +0100 Subject: basic questions for the mac References: <4e0e707b.0d41340a.5632.710a@mx.google.com> <99CE032B-001B-4C57-8898-44EDE2A5E1B4@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4C45E15A5FDD4C33AB74432E7DCE9E35@SamsungNC10> Hi Sean, I'm currently working through the title Take control of Switching to the mac I know that a few of these items have already been mentioned by page 23 and only 81 more pages to go. I do not remember the exact ways to do this but will compile a list as I go for you. I think it may be worth your while taking a look at the take control books. roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 2:19 AM Subject: Re: basic questions for the mac > Hello Sean & Kevin > > I think this requires a little clarification. > > 1. Run your application. > > 2. Press VO+D or Control+F3 to open the dock. > > 3. VO+Arrow or tab to select the item youi want. You can also type the > first few letters of its name and you'll hear the word "Running" after it. > > 4. With the item under your VoiceOver cursor, press VoiceOver+Shift+M. > > 5. I think your cursor will already be on Options but, move up/down using > the unmodified cursor keys. Then when you have Options highlighted press > the right-arrow key. > > You will then hear things like "Open at log-in", "Hide" and "Add To Dock". > When you hear Add to Dock, hit enter and you are done. > > Tip: To sort your dock alphabetically, drag an app into position by using > Option+Left/Right arrow keys. > > I hope this helps to clarify a little, Sean. > > Lynne > > > On 2 Jul 2011, at 02:12, Kevin Barry wrote: > > When a program is running it should appear in the dock. > what I think you mean is how do you get the icon to show up in the dock > even when the program is not running. > What you do is, run the program, then go to the dock and find the icon of > your program. > When it is highlighted hit VO-shift-m and this will bring up a menu. > From there you can choose to have it show in the dock. > I forget the exact wording but it's clear what it means. > hth > Kevin > > At 08:14 PM 7/1/2011, you wrote: >> Hi All. >> >> I have some basic questions since I have purchased a MACBook Pro. . >> >> Now I have the chance to play and learn >> >> >> 1. HOw do you move apps or docs to the dock with the keyboard? Is there a >> hot key when you select the item? >> >> 2. How do you apply settings to all accounts when you are in the admin >> account? >> >> 3. What is a smart folder? Is it a filter? >> >> 4. HOw do you drop items on to the desktop? >> >> 5. How do you select multiple items in a continuous or non-contiguous >> fashion with the keyboard? >> >> 6. In Itunes, the help refers to unselecting all checked items by >> pressing command click. How do you do this via the keyboard? Basically I >> am trying to uncheck all the items being shown. So I can then select the >> items I want to add to the new play list. >> >> 7. I was trying to install VLC and have no idea how to do this? I have >> downloaded the file. It has appeared on the desktop. as a volume. When I >> open the volume, select VLC it loads. But I don't know how to install. >> >> Sean >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sat Jul 2 14:07:18 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 09:07:18 -0400 Subject: good price on memory Message-ID: <4e0f1801.0d41340a.714b.74d6@mx.google.com> For anyone in the U.s., Newegg.com is selling 8gb of DDR3 1333mhz sodimm memory for $50 with free shipping until July 4. This is two sticks of 4gb each and will work with all newer MacBook Pros, regular Macbooks, IMacs and mac Minis. to find out for sure, in the Apple menu look in "about my Mac" and under memory it will say what kind it uses. Earlier this week I bought the same kind of memory for $70 and just installed it yesterday. Fortunately, I have more than one computer which will accept this ram. Now, I sit back to await the "clarification" from Annabel. Kevin Kevin Barry If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something. From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Jul 2 14:31:51 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:31:51 -0500 Subject: Need help tagging audio books. In-Reply-To: References: <08CCA425-26CA-494C-AA77-0B1677CCC692@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: On Jul 1, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Travis > > Do you know of a tool under the MAC that does auto label correction > for music/audiobooks? Such programs have been mentioned on list from time to time, but I don't use any, specifically because the automated systems these programs pull their data from isn't always accurate, and I find it too irritating to have my filenames changed at someone else's whim. Of course, if you're talking about a program that will read the mp3 tags already in the files, then organize them according, then that too has been mentioned on list, but again, I don't use any automated process for my files, because again, I find them too error prone, and I've personally got better things to do than fix problems caused by automated organizing schemes. :) Of course, if all your tags are actually correct, this wouldn't be an issue, but I have no idea about my files, since Itunes did most of the creating, and I already know it's wrong more often than not. :) Perhaps though, someone else will speak up with that program mentioned here several months ago that does exactly what you're asking, as I recall, it was free, and did move files into folders based on artist/album tags in the mp3 tags. Anyone remember this one? From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sat Jul 2 14:56:59 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 09:56:59 -0400 Subject: good price on memory In-Reply-To: <4e0f1801.0d41340a.714b.74d6@mx.google.com> References: <4e0f1801.0d41340a.714b.74d6@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <2B46A277-7236-44C7-BB17-FE8BB962CCBA@gmail.com> Hi Kevin, thanks for bringing this to our attention. In my nearly one year old MBP, the memory section references DDR3, but at a slower speed (1067 MHZ). I do not see the word: "sodimm". Since there is a speed missmatch I assume I'd remove the existing stick, but considering the lack of reference to sodimm thought it wouldn't hurt to verify. Also, how would one insert the memory into an mbp? I see several tiny screw holes on the bottom, but wouldn't think it would be necessary to disassemble the whole machine? Best regards. Geoff On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > For anyone in the U.s., Newegg.com is selling 8gb of DDR3 1333mhz sodimm memory for $50 with free shipping until July 4. > This is two sticks of 4gb each and will work with all newer MacBook Pros, regular Macbooks, IMacs and mac Minis. > to find out for sure, in the Apple menu look in "about my Mac" and under memory it will say what kind it uses. > Earlier this week I bought the same kind of memory for $70 and just installed it yesterday. > Fortunately, I have more than one computer which will accept this ram. > Now, I sit back to await the "clarification" from Annabel. > Kevin > > > > > Kevin Barry > If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sat Jul 2 15:04:36 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:04:36 -0400 Subject: good price on memory In-Reply-To: <2B46A277-7236-44C7-BB17-FE8BB962CCBA@gmail.com> References: <4e0f1801.0d41340a.714b.74d6@mx.google.com> <2B46A277-7236-44C7-BB17-FE8BB962CCBA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4e0f256f.932cdc0a.11e0.341c@mx.google.com> SoDIMM just means the smaller memory usually used on laptops. Faster memory works just fine in a slower bus. Most machines have two sticks installed. Remove them and install the new stuff. As long as you have DDR3, you'll be fine. Kb At 09:56 AM 7/2/2011, you wrote: >Hi Kevin, thanks for bringing this to our attention. > >In my nearly one year old MBP, the memory section references DDR3, >but at a slower speed (1067 MHZ). I do not see the word: >"sodimm". Since there is a speed missmatch I assume I'd remove the >existing stick, but considering the lack of reference to sodimm >thought it wouldn't hurt to verify. > >Also, how would one insert the memory into an mbp? I see several >tiny screw holes on the bottom, but wouldn't think it would be >necessary to disassemble the whole machine? > >Best regards. >Geoff > > > >On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > > > For anyone in the U.s., Newegg.com is selling 8gb > of DDR3 1333mhz sodimm memory for $50 with free shipping until July 4. > > This is two sticks of 4gb each and will work with all newer > MacBook Pros, regular Macbooks, IMacs and mac Minis. > > to find out for sure, in the Apple menu look in "about my Mac" > and under memory it will say what kind it uses. > > Earlier this week I bought the same kind of memory for $70 and > just installed it yesterday. > > Fortunately, I have more than one computer which will accept this ram. > > Now, I sit back to await the "clarification" from Annabel. > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > Kevin Barry > > If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something. > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sat Jul 2 15:05:15 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:05:15 -0400 Subject: good price on memory In-Reply-To: <2B46A277-7236-44C7-BB17-FE8BB962CCBA@gmail.com> References: <4e0f1801.0d41340a.714b.74d6@mx.google.com> <2B46A277-7236-44C7-BB17-FE8BB962CCBA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4e0f2596.a816340a.6f4f.75c6@mx.google.com> P.s. on an MBP, the back cover comes off. Mine had ten screws. At 09:56 AM 7/2/2011, you wrote: >Hi Kevin, thanks for bringing this to our attention. > >In my nearly one year old MBP, the memory section references DDR3, >but at a slower speed (1067 MHZ). I do not see the word: >"sodimm". Since there is a speed missmatch I assume I'd remove the >existing stick, but considering the lack of reference to sodimm >thought it wouldn't hurt to verify. > >Also, how would one insert the memory into an mbp? I see several >tiny screw holes on the bottom, but wouldn't think it would be >necessary to disassemble the whole machine? > >Best regards. >Geoff > > > >On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > > > For anyone in the U.s., Newegg.com is selling 8gb > of DDR3 1333mhz sodimm memory for $50 with free shipping until July 4. > > This is two sticks of 4gb each and will work with all newer > MacBook Pros, regular Macbooks, IMacs and mac Minis. > > to find out for sure, in the Apple menu look in "about my Mac" > and under memory it will say what kind it uses. > > Earlier this week I bought the same kind of memory for $70 and > just installed it yesterday. > > Fortunately, I have more than one computer which will accept this ram. > > Now, I sit back to await the "clarification" from Annabel. > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > Kevin Barry > > If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something. > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Sat Jul 2 15:49:34 2011 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 15:49:34 +0100 Subject: Sidebar and mobile me Message-ID: <39663C8DAC974B689C486458876C7AB2@SamsungNC10> Hi all, Have a mac book with snow leopard. I am trying to use my sidebar but whenever I enter I am confronted with a registration prompt for mobile me. Apparently I can try it free for 60 days but I'd like to not bother unless I feel I need it. So how do I get around this please. Many thanks in advance Roger From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sat Jul 2 16:09:32 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 17:09:32 +0200 Subject: Sidebar and mobile me In-Reply-To: <39663C8DAC974B689C486458876C7AB2@SamsungNC10> References: <39663C8DAC974B689C486458876C7AB2@SamsungNC10> Message-ID: <6E217DC5-2B4B-4EDF-BC62-B11D186C6468@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Roger, To get rid of that prompt to try MobileMe, go to Finder Preferences and select Side Bar from the Toolbar. Then uncheck iDisk in the list of items that show up in the Sidebar. Cheers, Anne On Jul 2, 2011, at 4:49 PM, Roger Woolgrove wrote: > Hi all, > > Have a mac book with snow leopard. > I am trying to use my sidebar but whenever I enter I am confronted with a registration prompt for mobile me. Apparently I can try it free for 60 days but I'd like to not bother unless I feel I need it. So how do I get around this please. > > Many thanks in advance > > Roger > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Jul 3 03:09:31 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 12:09:31 +1000 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all Message-ID: i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help would be gladly recieved From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Sun Jul 3 03:47:54 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 12:47:54 +1000 Subject: basic questions for the mac In-Reply-To: <82A37C8F-60EB-4D3F-BE2F-F2CF1F398A3E@gmail.com> References: <4e0e707b.0d41340a.5632.710a@mx.google.com> <99CE032B-001B-4C57-8898-44EDE2A5E1B4@mac-access.net> <82A37C8F-60EB-4D3F-BE2F-F2CF1F398A3E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mick, thanks for the detailed answer. When I refer to setting within an account. I want to be able to use a default profile for all accounts. Such as: when laptop goes into sleep mode, they require a password to log in. This example must be applied across all users. At this stage, it appears I have to modify each account profile. Sean 02/07/2011, at 9:27 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Sean, > > You can also hit Command-Shift-T on any item that you want added to the dock, such as an application, file or folder. Note that if it is a folder, you may have to use VO-Shift-M to open up the contextual menu, then select "open." This will open it in a new Finder window. > > Additionally, you can also select "list" in the dock item so that it will display it as a list when you hit enter on the folder. By default, it is set to "stack" which VoiceOver will not work with. Setting it to "list" will cause it to show up as a popup menu, however note that you can set multiple options like "grid" or "fan" and these options do not apply to all folders in your Dock. However, you may find this method of displaying folders from the Dock faster if you set it for all folders in your Dock, as you no longer have to bring up a contextual menu to open the folder. Of course, using this method causes it to be displayed in a manner you may not be familiar with. > > I don't understand your question regarding administrator accounts. As an administrator, you of course have access to all users and their information, and you can also change it if you click the lock to make changes, then enter your administrator password (if you have one.) If you are talking about other users and settings applied across the board. When you create a new user, each user has their own home folder. Their Home folder is the folder where all their downloads, music such as their iTunes libraries and so-forth are stored securely. Secondly, users can apply their own settings without affecting other users, but are unable to install software or make important computer changes unless that user is an administrator as well. > > Smart Folders automatically use Spotlight search in order to gather information about your files, then organize them by various criteria as well as type and subject matter into folders. These folders that you create automatically add, remove or change files should you remove a file from its original location, or change it on your computer. It's a very handy way of collecting files if you wish to copy them elsewhere, and the criteria that you can search by are also very wide. There really isn't a lot to say about them. > > If you wish to drop something to the desktop, the fastest way right now is simply copying it if possible, or making aliases with Command-L on the file, then copying it to the desktop then delete the original alias. Of course, if you can afford the space, you can just use Command-C to copy an item, then put it on the desktop with command-V. > > If you wish to select contiguous items, you can simply hold down the shift key while hitting down arrow in a table, text area, etc. Incidentally, should you wish to select non-contiguous items, do the following. > > 1) Find the first item you wish to select with either the keyboard or the VoiceOver keys. > 2) Hit VO-Shift-F3. This turns off cursor tracking, enabling you to use the VoiceOver keys to select items as moving the keyboard now would simply deselect all items, then select the current one which has focus. > 3) Hit Vo-Command-SPace on every item that you wish to select as you move down using VO-DOwn arrow, then hit Command-C to copy them if that is what you wish to do. > 4) Now, hit VO-Shift-F3 to switch cursor tracking back on. > > As for iTunes, you should have checkboxes in the table. You should be able to deselect these, then add the ones you want to the playlist that are still checked. There may be easier ways to do this, but this is what I use. > > To install an application which is .app, you can simply hit Command-C on the application within the disk image, then hit Command-Shift-A to go straight to your Applications folder. No, hit Command-V to drop the item here. if it is an mpkg file, you will find a lot of similarities between Windows executables .exe files. This is an installer which allows you to select where to install and what settings to include, and this method is primarily used for large applications which require multiple components to run. It is probably worth going into your Finder preferences with Command-Comma from the Finder, then interact with the toolbar. Vo-right until you get to "Advanced" then hit VO-Space to select it. Stop interacting with the toolbar, then VO-Right. The first checkbox you will find is called "Show all filename extensions" and is definitely worth checking in my own opinion. > > I hope this helps. Don't hesitate to ask more questions. :) > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 2, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > >> All. >> >> Thanks, that resolves the docking issue. >> >> Sean >> On 02/07/2011, at 11:19 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Sean & Kevin >>> >>> I think this requires a little clarification. >>> >>> 1. Run your application. >>> >>> 2. Press VO+D or Control+F3 to open the dock. >>> >>> 3. VO+Arrow or tab to select the item youi want. You can also type the first few letters of its name and you'll hear the word "Running" after it. >>> >>> 4. With the item under your VoiceOver cursor, press VoiceOver+Shift+M. >>> >>> 5. I think your cursor will already be on Options but, move up/down using the unmodified cursor keys. Then when you have Options highlighted press the right-arrow key. >>> >>> You will then hear things like "Open at log-in", "Hide" and "Add To Dock". When you hear Add to Dock, hit enter and you are done. >>> >>> Tip: To sort your dock alphabetically, drag an app into position by using Option+Left/Right arrow keys. >>> >>> I hope this helps to clarify a little, Sean. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> >>> On 2 Jul 2011, at 02:12, Kevin Barry wrote: >>> >>> When a program is running it should appear in the dock. >>> what I think you mean is how do you get the icon to show up in the dock even when the program is not running. >>> What you do is, run the program, then go to the dock and find the icon of your program. >>> When it is highlighted hit VO-shift-m and this will bring up a menu. >>> From there you can choose to have it show in the dock. >>> I forget the exact wording but it's clear what it means. >>> hth >>> Kevin >>> >>> At 08:14 PM 7/1/2011, you wrote: >>>> Hi All. >>>> >>>> I have some basic questions since I have purchased a MACBook Pro. . >>>> >>>> Now I have the chance to play and learn >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. HOw do you move apps or docs to the dock with the keyboard? Is there a hot key when you select the item? >>>> >>>> 2. How do you apply settings to all accounts when you are in the admin account? >>>> >>>> 3. What is a smart folder? Is it a filter? >>>> >>>> 4. HOw do you drop items on to the desktop? >>>> >>>> 5. How do you select multiple items in a continuous or non-contiguous fashion with the keyboard? >>>> >>>> 6. In Itunes, the help refers to unselecting all checked items by pressing command click. How do you do this via the keyboard? Basically I am trying to uncheck all the items being shown. So I can then select the items I want to add to the new play list. >>>> >>>> 7. I was trying to install VLC and have no idea how to do this? I have downloaded the file. It has appeared on the desktop. as a volume. When I open the volume, select VLC it loads. But I don't know how to install. >>>> >>>> Sean >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jul 3 03:51:34 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 12:51:34 +1000 Subject: Dropbox Terms | Agile Blog Message-ID: Hi! This blog entry discusses some security issues, even if you're not a 1 Password user and only a Dropbox user I still think this article is worth the read From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sun Jul 3 04:24:42 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 23:24:42 -0400 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> Hi Krystal, Perhaps someone can chime in with a MacOS solution, but if you have access to Windows, SoundTaxi will do what you want. The interface isn't totally standard, hence you would need to make extensive use of the Jaws cursor. Best regards, Geoff On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:09 PM, krystal watson wrote: > i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help would be gladly recieved > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 3 06:17:22 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 22:17:22 -0700 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> References: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> Message-ID: <39D5AC03-FE87-440C-B722-9A40E201A685@gmail.com> Hmm I am not sure if amadeus can play proteched wmas. I know flip for mac might not be able to. I hope there is a solution fo ryou. take care. On Jul 2, 2011, at 8:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Krystal, > > Perhaps someone can chime in with a MacOS solution, but if you have access to Windows, SoundTaxi will do what you want. The interface isn't totally standard, hence you would need to make extensive use of the Jaws cursor. > > Best regards, > Geoff > > > On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:09 PM, krystal watson wrote: > >> i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help would be gladly recieved >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Jul 3 07:32:37 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 08:32:37 +0200 Subject: basic questions for the mac In-Reply-To: References: <4e0e707b.0d41340a.5632.710a@mx.google.com> <99CE032B-001B-4C57-8898-44EDE2A5E1B4@mac-access.net> <82A37C8F-60EB-4D3F-BE2F-F2CF1F398A3E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8529C968-6C85-4B87-A9DD-817599E8B956@gmail.com> Hello Sean, As pointed out, any modifications made to a profile do not apply across the board for all accounts. This means that you will have to set them for individual users. Perhaps this is a drawback, particularly if you are the only one using both accounts for specific uses, but I haven't seen a way to forcibly apply them. Regards, Nic On Jul 3, 2011, at 4:47 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi Mick, > > thanks for the detailed answer. > > When I refer to setting within an account. > I want to be able to use a default profile for all accounts. Such as: when laptop goes into sleep mode, they require a password to log in. This example must be applied across all users. > At this stage, it appears I have to modify each account profile. > > Sean > 02/07/2011, at 9:27 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hello Sean, >> >> You can also hit Command-Shift-T on any item that you want added to the dock, such as an application, file or folder. Note that if it is a folder, you may have to use VO-Shift-M to open up the contextual menu, then select "open." This will open it in a new Finder window. >> >> Additionally, you can also select "list" in the dock item so that it will display it as a list when you hit enter on the folder. By default, it is set to "stack" which VoiceOver will not work with. Setting it to "list" will cause it to show up as a popup menu, however note that you can set multiple options like "grid" or "fan" and these options do not apply to all folders in your Dock. However, you may find this method of displaying folders from the Dock faster if you set it for all folders in your Dock, as you no longer have to bring up a contextual menu to open the folder. Of course, using this method causes it to be displayed in a manner you may not be familiar with. >> >> I don't understand your question regarding administrator accounts. As an administrator, you of course have access to all users and their information, and you can also change it if you click the lock to make changes, then enter your administrator password (if you have one.) If you are talking about other users and settings applied across the board. When you create a new user, each user has their own home folder. Their Home folder is the folder where all their downloads, music such as their iTunes libraries and so-forth are stored securely. Secondly, users can apply their own settings without affecting other users, but are unable to install software or make important computer changes unless that user is an administrator as well. >> >> Smart Folders automatically use Spotlight search in order to gather information about your files, then organize them by various criteria as well as type and subject matter into folders. These folders that you create automatically add, remove or change files should you remove a file from its original location, or change it on your computer. It's a very handy way of collecting files if you wish to copy them elsewhere, and the criteria that you can search by are also very wide. There really isn't a lot to say about them. >> >> If you wish to drop something to the desktop, the fastest way right now is simply copying it if possible, or making aliases with Command-L on the file, then copying it to the desktop then delete the original alias. Of course, if you can afford the space, you can just use Command-C to copy an item, then put it on the desktop with command-V. >> >> If you wish to select contiguous items, you can simply hold down the shift key while hitting down arrow in a table, text area, etc. Incidentally, should you wish to select non-contiguous items, do the following. >> >> 1) Find the first item you wish to select with either the keyboard or the VoiceOver keys. >> 2) Hit VO-Shift-F3. This turns off cursor tracking, enabling you to use the VoiceOver keys to select items as moving the keyboard now would simply deselect all items, then select the current one which has focus. >> 3) Hit Vo-Command-SPace on every item that you wish to select as you move down using VO-DOwn arrow, then hit Command-C to copy them if that is what you wish to do. >> 4) Now, hit VO-Shift-F3 to switch cursor tracking back on. >> >> As for iTunes, you should have checkboxes in the table. You should be able to deselect these, then add the ones you want to the playlist that are still checked. There may be easier ways to do this, but this is what I use. >> >> To install an application which is .app, you can simply hit Command-C on the application within the disk image, then hit Command-Shift-A to go straight to your Applications folder. No, hit Command-V to drop the item here. if it is an mpkg file, you will find a lot of similarities between Windows executables .exe files. This is an installer which allows you to select where to install and what settings to include, and this method is primarily used for large applications which require multiple components to run. It is probably worth going into your Finder preferences with Command-Comma from the Finder, then interact with the toolbar. Vo-right until you get to "Advanced" then hit VO-Space to select it. Stop interacting with the toolbar, then VO-Right. The first checkbox you will find is called "Show all filename extensions" and is definitely worth checking in my own opinion. >> >> I hope this helps. Don't hesitate to ask more questions. :) >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 2, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: >> >>> All. >>> >>> Thanks, that resolves the docking issue. >>> >>> Sean >>> On 02/07/2011, at 11:19 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Sean & Kevin >>>> >>>> I think this requires a little clarification. >>>> >>>> 1. Run your application. >>>> >>>> 2. Press VO+D or Control+F3 to open the dock. >>>> >>>> 3. VO+Arrow or tab to select the item youi want. You can also type the first few letters of its name and you'll hear the word "Running" after it. >>>> >>>> 4. With the item under your VoiceOver cursor, press VoiceOver+Shift+M. >>>> >>>> 5. I think your cursor will already be on Options but, move up/down using the unmodified cursor keys. Then when you have Options highlighted press the right-arrow key. >>>> >>>> You will then hear things like "Open at log-in", "Hide" and "Add To Dock". When you hear Add to Dock, hit enter and you are done. >>>> >>>> Tip: To sort your dock alphabetically, drag an app into position by using Option+Left/Right arrow keys. >>>> >>>> I hope this helps to clarify a little, Sean. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2 Jul 2011, at 02:12, Kevin Barry wrote: >>>> >>>> When a program is running it should appear in the dock. >>>> what I think you mean is how do you get the icon to show up in the dock even when the program is not running. >>>> What you do is, run the program, then go to the dock and find the icon of your program. >>>> When it is highlighted hit VO-shift-m and this will bring up a menu. >>>> From there you can choose to have it show in the dock. >>>> I forget the exact wording but it's clear what it means. >>>> hth >>>> Kevin >>>> >>>> At 08:14 PM 7/1/2011, you wrote: >>>>> Hi All. >>>>> >>>>> I have some basic questions since I have purchased a MACBook Pro. . >>>>> >>>>> Now I have the chance to play and learn >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1. HOw do you move apps or docs to the dock with the keyboard? Is there a hot key when you select the item? >>>>> >>>>> 2. How do you apply settings to all accounts when you are in the admin account? >>>>> >>>>> 3. What is a smart folder? Is it a filter? >>>>> >>>>> 4. HOw do you drop items on to the desktop? >>>>> >>>>> 5. How do you select multiple items in a continuous or non-contiguous fashion with the keyboard? >>>>> >>>>> 6. In Itunes, the help refers to unselecting all checked items by pressing command click. How do you do this via the keyboard? Basically I am trying to uncheck all the items being shown. So I can then select the items I want to add to the new play list. >>>>> >>>>> 7. I was trying to install VLC and have no idea how to do this? I have downloaded the file. It has appeared on the desktop. as a volume. When I open the volume, select VLC it loads. But I don't know how to install. >>>>> >>>>> Sean >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com Sun Jul 3 07:50:48 2011 From: Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com (Frank Ventura) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 02:50:48 -0400 Subject: basic questions for the mac In-Reply-To: <4e0e707b.0d41340a.5632.710a@mx.google.com> References: <4e0e707b.0d41340a.5632.710a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B2BB5@mail.mail.breezes.local> Yeah, I think it says something like, keep in dock. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Barry Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:13 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: basic questions for the mac When a program is running it should appear in the dock. what I think you mean is how do you get the icon to show up in the dock even when the program is not running. What you do is, run the program, then go to the dock and find the icon of your program. When it is highlighted hit VO-shift-m and this will bring up a menu. From there you can choose to have it show in the dock. I forget the exact wording but it's clear what it means. hth Kevin At 08:14 PM 7/1/2011, you wrote: >Hi All. > >I have some basic questions since I have purchased a MACBook Pro. . > >Now I have the chance to play and learn > > >1. HOw do you move apps or docs to the dock with the keyboard? Is there >a hot key when you select the item? > >2. How do you apply settings to all accounts when you are in the admin >account? > >3. What is a smart folder? Is it a filter? > >4. HOw do you drop items on to the desktop? > >5. How do you select multiple items in a continuous or non-contiguous >fashion with the keyboard? > >6. In Itunes, the help refers to unselecting all checked items by >pressing command click. How do you do this via the keyboard? >Basically I am trying to uncheck all the items being shown. So I can >then select the items I want to add to the new play list. > >7. I was trying to install VLC and have no idea how to do this? I have >downloaded the file. It has appeared on the desktop. as a volume. When >I open the volume, select VLC it loads. But I don't know how to >install. > >Sean ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Jul 3 07:56:49 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 07:56:49 +0100 Subject: basic questions for the mac In-Reply-To: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B2BB5@mail.mail.breezes.local> References: <4e0e707b.0d41340a.5632.710a@mx.google.com> <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B2BB5@mail.mail.breezes.local> Message-ID: <8F226E1A-EB5F-4F3F-8EEC-9FFFFD434938@gmail.com> Yes it does On 3 Jul 2011, at 07:50, Frank Ventura wrote: > Yeah, I think it says something like, keep in dock. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Barry > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:13 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: basic questions for the mac > > When a program is running it should appear in the dock. > what I think you mean is how do you get the icon to show up in the dock > even when the program is not running. > What you do is, run the program, then go to the dock and find the icon > of your program. > When it is highlighted hit VO-shift-m and this will bring up a menu. > From there you can choose to have it show in the dock. > I forget the exact wording but it's clear what it means. > hth > Kevin > > At 08:14 PM 7/1/2011, you wrote: >> Hi All. >> >> I have some basic questions since I have purchased a MACBook Pro. . >> >> Now I have the chance to play and learn >> >> >> 1. HOw do you move apps or docs to the dock with the keyboard? Is there > >> a hot key when you select the item? >> >> 2. How do you apply settings to all accounts when you are in the admin >> account? >> >> 3. What is a smart folder? Is it a filter? >> >> 4. HOw do you drop items on to the desktop? >> >> 5. How do you select multiple items in a continuous or non-contiguous >> fashion with the keyboard? >> >> 6. In Itunes, the help refers to unselecting all checked items by >> pressing command click. How do you do this via the keyboard? >> Basically I am trying to uncheck all the items being shown. So I can >> then select the items I want to add to the new play list. >> >> 7. I was trying to install VLC and have no idea how to do this? I have >> downloaded the file. It has appeared on the desktop. as a volume. When >> I open the volume, select VLC it loads. But I don't know how to >> install. >> >> Sean >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >> posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to > the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com Sun Jul 3 07:57:13 2011 From: Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com (Frank Ventura) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 02:57:13 -0400 Subject: Using Tagalicious to check music tags Message-ID: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B2BB6@mail.mail.breezes.local> Hi all, I would like to use Tagalicious to check the metadata of the music in my music library. I have a few questions. If the music is stored on a network share and accessed from a few computers running ITunes will I have to add all of the music to each ITunes library and run Tagalicious on each machine or can I do it once and the music on the network share will be updated? Also is there a meand of doing the entire library at one time? In the list of songs can I do a command plus a to select all and have the entire library searched at once? There are over 1000 songs in total and would lkike to make it as much of a one step operation as possible. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of krystal watson Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 10:10 PM To: mac access group Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a atall i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help would be gladly recieved <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Sun Jul 3 17:38:40 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 12:38:40 -0400 Subject: basic questions for the mac In-Reply-To: <8529C968-6C85-4B87-A9DD-817599E8B956@gmail.com> References: <4e0e707b.0d41340a.5632.710a@mx.google.com> <99CE032B-001B-4C57-8898-44EDE2A5E1B4@mac-access.net> <82A37C8F-60EB-4D3F-BE2F-F2CF1F398A3E@gmail.com> <8529C968-6C85-4B87-A9DD-817599E8B956@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5946BC65-1722-4D9D-A013-26012B3A4450@gmail.com> Well, there is: /System/Library/User Template/English*/Library/Preferences/* Unfortunately at least this directory which is under system is supposed to only be modified by APple, so any changes you make might be overwrittten by upgrades, or even worse cause upgrades to fail. Generally localized or application specific changes to Library files should go in /Library/* so you might want to see what happens if you create a /Library/User template/ and see if any preferences thrown in there supersede the Apple ones. This sounds like something worth while mostly if you want to default to having VO on for each user or some other Universal access like function. Also note tha I have no idea how much Apple supports this. Jonathan On Jul 3, 2011, at 2:32 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Sean, > > As pointed out, any modifications made to a profile do not apply across the board for all accounts. This means that you will have to set them for individual users. Perhaps this is a drawback, particularly if you are the only one using both accounts for specific uses, but I haven't seen a way to forcibly apply them. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 3, 2011, at 4:47 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > >> Hi Mick, >> >> thanks for the detailed answer. >> >> When I refer to setting within an account. >> I want to be able to use a default profile for all accounts. Such as: when laptop goes into sleep mode, they require a password to log in. This example must be applied across all users. >> At this stage, it appears I have to modify each account profile. >> >> Sean >> 02/07/2011, at 9:27 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hello Sean, >>> >>> You can also hit Command-Shift-T on any item that you want added to the dock, such as an application, file or folder. Note that if it is a folder, you may have to use VO-Shift-M to open up the contextual menu, then select "open." This will open it in a new Finder window. >>> >>> Additionally, you can also select "list" in the dock item so that it will display it as a list when you hit enter on the folder. By default, it is set to "stack" which VoiceOver will not work with. Setting it to "list" will cause it to show up as a popup menu, however note that you can set multiple options like "grid" or "fan" and these options do not apply to all folders in your Dock. However, you may find this method of displaying folders from the Dock faster if you set it for all folders in your Dock, as you no longer have to bring up a contextual menu to open the folder. Of course, using this method causes it to be displayed in a manner you may not be familiar with. >>> >>> I don't understand your question regarding administrator accounts. As an administrator, you of course have access to all users and their information, and you can also change it if you click the lock to make changes, then enter your administrator password (if you have one.) If you are talking about other users and settings applied across the board. When you create a new user, each user has their own home folder. Their Home folder is the folder where all their downloads, music such as their iTunes libraries and so-forth are stored securely. Secondly, users can apply their own settings without affecting other users, but are unable to install software or make important computer changes unless that user is an administrator as well. >>> >>> Smart Folders automatically use Spotlight search in order to gather information about your files, then organize them by various criteria as well as type and subject matter into folders. These folders that you create automatically add, remove or change files should you remove a file from its original location, or change it on your computer. It's a very handy way of collecting files if you wish to copy them elsewhere, and the criteria that you can search by are also very wide. There really isn't a lot to say about them. >>> >>> If you wish to drop something to the desktop, the fastest way right now is simply copying it if possible, or making aliases with Command-L on the file, then copying it to the desktop then delete the original alias. Of course, if you can afford the space, you can just use Command-C to copy an item, then put it on the desktop with command-V. >>> >>> If you wish to select contiguous items, you can simply hold down the shift key while hitting down arrow in a table, text area, etc. Incidentally, should you wish to select non-contiguous items, do the following. >>> >>> 1) Find the first item you wish to select with either the keyboard or the VoiceOver keys. >>> 2) Hit VO-Shift-F3. This turns off cursor tracking, enabling you to use the VoiceOver keys to select items as moving the keyboard now would simply deselect all items, then select the current one which has focus. >>> 3) Hit Vo-Command-SPace on every item that you wish to select as you move down using VO-DOwn arrow, then hit Command-C to copy them if that is what you wish to do. >>> 4) Now, hit VO-Shift-F3 to switch cursor tracking back on. >>> >>> As for iTunes, you should have checkboxes in the table. You should be able to deselect these, then add the ones you want to the playlist that are still checked. There may be easier ways to do this, but this is what I use. >>> >>> To install an application which is .app, you can simply hit Command-C on the application within the disk image, then hit Command-Shift-A to go straight to your Applications folder. No, hit Command-V to drop the item here. if it is an mpkg file, you will find a lot of similarities between Windows executables .exe files. This is an installer which allows you to select where to install and what settings to include, and this method is primarily used for large applications which require multiple components to run. It is probably worth going into your Finder preferences with Command-Comma from the Finder, then interact with the toolbar. Vo-right until you get to "Advanced" then hit VO-Space to select it. Stop interacting with the toolbar, then VO-Right. The first checkbox you will find is called "Show all filename extensions" and is definitely worth checking in my own opinion. >>> >>> I hope this helps. Don't hesitate to ask more questions. :) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: >>> >>>> All. >>>> >>>> Thanks, that resolves the docking issue. >>>> >>>> Sean >>>> On 02/07/2011, at 11:19 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Sean & Kevin >>>>> >>>>> I think this requires a little clarification. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Run your application. >>>>> >>>>> 2. Press VO+D or Control+F3 to open the dock. >>>>> >>>>> 3. VO+Arrow or tab to select the item youi want. You can also type the first few letters of its name and you'll hear the word "Running" after it. >>>>> >>>>> 4. With the item under your VoiceOver cursor, press VoiceOver+Shift+M. >>>>> >>>>> 5. I think your cursor will already be on Options but, move up/down using the unmodified cursor keys. Then when you have Options highlighted press the right-arrow key. >>>>> >>>>> You will then hear things like "Open at log-in", "Hide" and "Add To Dock". When you hear Add to Dock, hit enter and you are done. >>>>> >>>>> Tip: To sort your dock alphabetically, drag an app into position by using Option+Left/Right arrow keys. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this helps to clarify a little, Sean. >>>>> >>>>> Lynne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2 Jul 2011, at 02:12, Kevin Barry wrote: >>>>> >>>>> When a program is running it should appear in the dock. >>>>> what I think you mean is how do you get the icon to show up in the dock even when the program is not running. >>>>> What you do is, run the program, then go to the dock and find the icon of your program. >>>>> When it is highlighted hit VO-shift-m and this will bring up a menu. >>>>> From there you can choose to have it show in the dock. >>>>> I forget the exact wording but it's clear what it means. >>>>> hth >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> At 08:14 PM 7/1/2011, you wrote: >>>>>> Hi All. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have some basic questions since I have purchased a MACBook Pro. . >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I have the chance to play and learn >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. HOw do you move apps or docs to the dock with the keyboard? Is there a hot key when you select the item? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. How do you apply settings to all accounts when you are in the admin account? >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. What is a smart folder? Is it a filter? >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. HOw do you drop items on to the desktop? >>>>>> >>>>>> 5. How do you select multiple items in a continuous or non-contiguous fashion with the keyboard? >>>>>> >>>>>> 6. In Itunes, the help refers to unselecting all checked items by pressing command click. How do you do this via the keyboard? Basically I am trying to uncheck all the items being shown. So I can then select the items I want to add to the new play list. >>>>>> >>>>>> 7. I was trying to install VLC and have no idea how to do this? I have downloaded the file. It has appeared on the desktop. as a volume. When I open the volume, select VLC it loads. 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Cohn joncohn at cox.net From va3ets2000 at me.com Sun Jul 3 19:02:47 2011 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 14:02:47 -0400 Subject: good, accessible iOS app for listening to birdsong? Message-ID: <194B9333-293A-4B37-B34D-AB639AD42D50@me.com> HI, ONe thing I like doing is going out into areas where there are wild birds, and of course, being able to identify them by their song, or call. Are there any good accessible iOS apps for birders? I tried one called chirp, USA, but it wasn't accessible at all. Help would be appreciated. From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sun Jul 3 19:08:11 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:08:11 -0400 Subject: good price on memory In-Reply-To: <4e0f1801.0d41340a.714b.74d6@mx.google.com> References: <4e0f1801.0d41340a.714b.74d6@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <7D5EF1C9-17D4-4737-9058-98FEDA6B4A0C@gmail.com> Hello Kevin and list, The closest match appears to be iRam Model #: IR8GSO1333D3K priced at $80? I clicked on "price alert" but after logging in there was no change. Is there a publicly available promo code, or have I got the wrong item? Best regards. Geoff On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > For anyone in the U.s., Newegg.com is selling 8gb of DDR3 1333mhz sodimm memory for $50 with free shipping until July 4. > This is two sticks of 4gb each and will work with all newer MacBook Pros, regular Macbooks, IMacs and mac Minis. > to find out for sure, in the Apple menu look in "about my Mac" and under memory it will say what kind it uses. > Earlier this week I bought the same kind of memory for $70 and just installed it yesterday. > Fortunately, I have more than one computer which will accept this ram. > Now, I sit back to await the "clarification" from Annabel. > Kevin > > > > > Kevin Barry > If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Sun Jul 3 19:24:41 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 14:24:41 -0400 Subject: good, accessible iOS app for listening to birdsong? In-Reply-To: <194B9333-293A-4B37-B34D-AB639AD42D50@me.com> References: <194B9333-293A-4B37-B34D-AB639AD42D50@me.com> Message-ID: <5B7F9AD3-8D8C-463F-92E8-BBEB665EDD57@me.com> Hello Dan, You might want to give Chirp another try and let us know where you're getting hung up in the App. The App is actually very accessible and, in fact, several of us had contacted the Developer to iron out some of the initial accessibility quirks and the Developer did make some adjustments. One thing to note is that this App only runs in landscape mode with the Home button to the right. I haven't tried it on my iPad but it works quite well on my ATT iPhone 4. I really enjoy the Quiz section of the App. Cheers, Bryan On Jul 3, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > HI, ONe thing I like doing is going out into areas where there are wild birds, and of course, being able to identify them by their song, or call. Are there any good accessible iOS apps for birders? I tried one called chirp, USA, but it wasn't accessible at all. Help would be appreciated. From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sun Jul 3 19:34:26 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 15:34:26 -0300 Subject: good, accessible iOS app for listening to birdsong? In-Reply-To: <5B7F9AD3-8D8C-463F-92E8-BBEB665EDD57@me.com> References: <194B9333-293A-4B37-B34D-AB639AD42D50@me.com> <5B7F9AD3-8D8C-463F-92E8-BBEB665EDD57@me.com> Message-ID: <7FB1CF4C3BB34AA0B2A004D2D3F2236B@MainComputer> Dan: I agree with Brian's comment and I can also suggest the IBird app. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Jones" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 3:24 PM Subject: Re: good, accessible iOS app for listening to birdsong? > Hello Dan, > > You might want to give Chirp another try and let us know where you're > getting hung up in the App. The App is actually very accessible and, in > fact, several of us had contacted the Developer to iron out some of the > initial accessibility quirks and the Developer did make some adjustments. > > One thing to note is that this App only runs in landscape mode with the > Home button to the right. I haven't tried it on my iPad but it works quite > well on my ATT iPhone 4. I really enjoy the Quiz section of the App. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > On Jul 3, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> HI, ONe thing I like doing is going out into areas where there are wild >> birds, and of course, being able to identify them by their song, or call. >> Are there any good accessible iOS apps for birders? I tried one called >> chirp, USA, but it wasn't accessible at all. 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Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From billd at insightbb.com Sun Jul 3 19:24:27 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:24:27 -0400 Subject: gps for the Iphone Message-ID: <078173D5-CE84-411F-8D72-25C472EC22D5@insightbb.com> Hello, I know there has been discussions in the past about accessible GPS apps for the Iphone. I have used both the Trekker and now the Kaptin. I am looking to see if there is an app for the Iphone that will let you know the cross streets when you pas them buy. both when you are walking and when you are on a fixed rout buss? also, will the phone work in your pocket or do you have to hold it. is there a function that will tell you the points of interest or what businesses is around you? to back up I ment to say I have used the Trekker Breeze not the full version of the trekker. Thank you in advance. Bill Deatherage From support at mac-access.net Sun Jul 3 20:09:51 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 20:09:51 +0100 Subject: Take Control Clients; Please Read, Very Very Important! Message-ID: Hello everybody; particularly those who have ought Take Control titles from us. We are very pleased to be able to tell you that, now we are home from London, Gordon has effected the repairs to our file server and it is once more operation. 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Lynne From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Jul 3 20:19:03 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 15:19:03 -0400 Subject: good price on memory In-Reply-To: <7D5EF1C9-17D4-4737-9058-98FEDA6B4A0C@gmail.com> References: <4e0f1801.0d41340a.714b.74d6@mx.google.com> <7D5EF1C9-17D4-4737-9058-98FEDA6B4A0C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4e10c0a1.04d2dc0a.6996.3925@mx.google.com> I don't have the link anymore; it is public as it was sent as a special deal along with others. it was g.skill ripjaws memory though. Kevin At 02:08 PM 7/3/2011, you wrote: >Hello Kevin and list, > >The closest match appears to be iRam Model #: IR8GSO1333D3K priced >at $80? I clicked on "price alert" but after logging in there was >no change. Is there a publicly available promo code, or have I got >the wrong item? > >Best regards. >Geoff > > >On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > > > For anyone in the U.s., Newegg.com is selling 8gb > of DDR3 1333mhz sodimm memory for $50 with free shipping until July 4. > > This is two sticks of 4gb each and will work with all newer > MacBook Pros, regular Macbooks, IMacs and mac Minis. > > to find out for sure, in the Apple menu look in "about my Mac" > and under memory it will say what kind it uses. > > Earlier this week I bought the same kind of memory for $70 and > just installed it yesterday. > > Fortunately, I have more than one computer which will accept this ram. > > Now, I sit back to await the "clarification" from Annabel. > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > Kevin Barry > > If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something. > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Jul 3 20:30:53 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 15:30:53 -0400 Subject: good price on memory Message-ID: <4e10c367.6948340a.017e.7ef8@mx.google.com> I found the memory I ordered on Newegg. Sadly, it's sold out. You can subscribe to their e-mail notifications for future deals if you choose. Kevin Kevin Barry If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something. From n0oxy at charter.net Mon Jul 4 01:04:01 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 19:04:01 -0500 Subject: gps for the Iphone In-Reply-To: <078173D5-CE84-411F-8D72-25C472EC22D5@insightbb.com> References: <078173D5-CE84-411F-8D72-25C472EC22D5@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Check out the sendero look around app, it should provide you the information you're seaking. On Jul 3, 2011, at 1:24 PM, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I know there has been discussions in the past about accessible GPS apps for the Iphone. I have used both the Trekker and now the Kaptin. I am looking to see if there is an app for the Iphone that will let you know the cross streets when you pas them buy. both when you are walking and when you are on a fixed rout buss? also, will the phone work in your pocket or do you have to hold it. is there a function that will tell you the points of interest or what businesses is around you? > to back up I ment to say I have used the Trekker Breeze not the full version of the trekker. > Thank you in advance. > Bill Deatherage > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Jul 4 02:58:37 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 15:58:37 -1000 Subject: Sound Studio at Mac App Store for $29.99 this weekend (regularly $49.99) Message-ID: Hi All, This is a bit of a late notice/find, but Sound Studio, one of the audio editing apps that was recently discussed, is on sale at the Mac App Store for $29.99 (usually $49.99). I think this is only for this weekend for the 4th of July sale. Here's the link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sound-studio/id405537804?mt=12 (I'm passing on this and have upgraded to Amadeus Pro 2, but this may be of interest to some of you.) Cheers, Esther From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Jul 4 03:07:39 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 12:07:39 +1000 Subject: Sound Studio at Mac App Store for $29.99 this weekend (regularly $49.99) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E11206B.1050200@internode.on.net> We in Australia probably couldn't take advantage of this but even at $49.00 being the regular price, its a bargain! Speaking of matters audio, I got word this morning that my copy of Protools Studio Audio had been dispatched so with luck I should have it installed on my Imac by the end of the week and should be able to tell you all something about its accessibility, yep its supposed to be accessible now . We in Australia probably couldn't take advantage of this but even at $49.00 being the regular price, its a bargain! Speaking of matters audio, I got word this morning that my copy of Protools Studio Audio had been dispatched so with luck I should have it installed on my Imac by the end of the week and should be able to tell you all something about its accessibility, yep its supposed to be accessible now . On 4/07/2011 11:58 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi All, > This is a bit of a late notice/find, but Sound Studio, one of the audio editing apps that was recently discussed, is on sale at the Mac App Store for $29.99 (usually $49.99). I think this is only for this weekend for the 4th of July sale. Here's the link: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sound-studio/id405537804?mt=12 > > (I'm passing on this and have upgraded to Amadeus Pro 2, but this may be of interest to some of you.) > > Cheers, > > Esther > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Mon Jul 4 14:49:43 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:49:43 +0100 Subject: Just getting back into the groove Message-ID: hello everybody If you're awaiting our response from the support address we apologise for the delays. Hospitals and things keep getting in the way! We'll try and get your issue dealt with quickly. Lynne From MDCAR at once.es Mon Jul 4 16:11:09 2011 From: MDCAR at once.es (=?iso-8859-1?Q?De_Miguel_Carballo=2C_Mar=EDa_=C1ngeles?=) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:11:09 +0200 Subject: RV: HTML edit In-Reply-To: <86BC7EAD212F8041A43EFCC56562C73B7C6F026215@ONMAIL1.once.intranet.local> References: <86BC7EAD212F8041A43EFCC56562C73B7C6F026215@ONMAIL1.once.intranet.local> Message-ID: <86BC7EAD212F8041A43EFCC56562C73B7C6F0251DE@ONMAIL1.once.intranet.local> ________________________________________ De: De Miguel Carballo, Mar?a ?ngeles Enviado el: lunes, 04 de julio de 2011 7:45 Para: 'mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net' Asunto: HTML edit Hi, I was wondering if there is any free HTML edit Thanks in advance M? ?ngeles de Miguel Carballo Unidad de accesibilidad Direcci?n de Sistemas y TTI de la ONCE Telf. 91 589 02 98 correo electr?nico : mdcar at once.es **Este mensaje y cualquier fichero anexo se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario y pueden contener informaci?n privilegiada o CONFIDENCIAL. Si no es Vd. el destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la utilizaci?n, divulgaci?n y/o copia sin autorizaci?n est? prohibida en virtud de la legislaci?n vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma v?a y proceda a su destrucci?n** ***Antes de imprimir este mensaje o sus anexos, aseg?rese de que es necesario. El medio ambiente est? en nuestra mano*** From va3ets2000 at me.com Mon Jul 4 17:17:21 2011 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 12:17:21 -0400 Subject: good, accessible iOS app for listening to birdsong? In-Reply-To: <5B7F9AD3-8D8C-463F-92E8-BBEB665EDD57@me.com> References: <194B9333-293A-4B37-B34D-AB639AD42D50@me.com> <5B7F9AD3-8D8C-463F-92E8-BBEB665EDD57@me.com> Message-ID: <18C95194-CB8D-4CC8-B233-8DCF83CC8498@me.com> Ok cool, thanks Brian. WIll give the chirp app another try. On Jul 3, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello Dan, > > You might want to give Chirp another try and let us know where you're getting hung up in the App. The App is actually very accessible and, in fact, several of us had contacted the Developer to iron out some of the initial accessibility quirks and the Developer did make some adjustments. > > One thing to note is that this App only runs in landscape mode with the Home button to the right. I haven't tried it on my iPad but it works quite well on my ATT iPhone 4. I really enjoy the Quiz section of the App. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > On Jul 3, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> HI, ONe thing I like doing is going out into areas where there are wild birds, and of course, being able to identify them by their song, or call. Are there any good accessible iOS apps for birders? I tried one called chirp, USA, but it wasn't accessible at all. Help would be appreciated. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jul 4 18:01:02 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 10:01:02 -0700 Subject: RV: HTML edit In-Reply-To: <86BC7EAD212F8041A43EFCC56562C73B7C6F0251DE@ONMAIL1.once.intranet.local> References: <86BC7EAD212F8041A43EFCC56562C73B7C6F026215@ONMAIL1.once.intranet.local> <86BC7EAD212F8041A43EFCC56562C73B7C6F0251DE@ONMAIL1.once.intranet.local> Message-ID: YOucan use text edit. Just set the prefs to ignore rich text commands when opening html documents. There might be a better solution but for now use text edit until someone comes up wiht a better solution. Takecare. On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:11 AM, De Miguel Carballo, Mar?a ?ngeles wrote: > > ________________________________________ > De: De Miguel Carballo, Mar?a ?ngeles > Enviado el: lunes, 04 de julio de 2011 7:45 > Para: 'mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net' > Asunto: HTML edit > > Hi, > I was wondering if there is any free HTML edit > Thanks in advance > M? ?ngeles de Miguel Carballo > Unidad de accesibilidad > Direcci?n de Sistemas y TTI de la ONCE > Telf. 91 589 02 98 > correo electr?nico : mdcar at once.es > > > **Este mensaje y cualquier fichero anexo se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario y pueden contener informaci?n privilegiada o CONFIDENCIAL. Si no es Vd. el destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la utilizaci?n, divulgaci?n y/o copia sin autorizaci?n est? prohibida en virtud de la legislaci?n vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma v?a y proceda a su destrucci?n** > > > ***Antes de imprimir este mensaje o sus anexos, aseg?rese de que es necesario. El medio ambiente est? en nuestra mano*** > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From moriond at mac.com Tue Jul 5 01:19:11 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 14:19:11 -1000 Subject: XSysInfo memory clearing app for iOS devices on sale for $0.99 Message-ID: Hi all, "XSysInfo - device booster" by XZone Software, a useful iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad utility app, has dropped to half price ($0.99) for the 4th of July. This app reports information about your device memory, disk, and network usage, processes that are running, and various other tech specs. However, what is most useful about this app is the memory clearing function, which can give you much snappier VoiceOver performance. Normally, in the multi-tasking environment, the system will try to keep your recently used apps active, so that if you switch back to them they'll be easily accessed and available. For example, if you double tap a link in a mail message, you want to go back to reading your mail after viewing the web page in Safari, and be in the same message after you use the App Switcher to return to Mail from Safari. As you continue to launch new apps, the system will reclaim memory from the older processes, which then become inactive, although they're still listed in the App Switcher window. (The apps in this window should really be regarded as a list of "recently used" apps rather than active apps, since in the case of a long list of apps only the most recent of these generally remain active.) The issue with this, is that sometimes you want to reclaim more memory, depending on both the apps that you currently want to use and that you have been using. Also, VoiceOver puts more memory demands on iOS, and it can be useful to pull a bit more from processes you're no longer using. You can use XSysInfo to release memory and report the current free memory. One necessary accessibility tip: configure XSysInfo to release memory when the app is launched. You can do this from the general Settings menu and going to "XSysInfo" (likely, this will either be the last element in the page, or close to the last). Double tap the "Clean at launch" switch so that it is announced as "on". The app usually updates the usage stats, so although there is a switch to free memory, it cycles with the update and is almost impossible to find with VoiceOver unless you tap at exactly the right time. You'll need to wait several seconds for the memory to be freed. (You can read the number of MB in the free category, and tell when it jumps from 15 or so to 150, or whatever the number.) The app may close automatically, but it will free up memory even when it does so, and I've never had problems with this. ? XSysInfo - device booster ($0.99 -- half price for July 4th) by XZone Software http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/xsysinfo-device-booster/id354129029?mt=8 This is a Universal app that will work for both iPhone and iPad. Cheers, Esther From krbarry at gmail.com Tue Jul 5 02:35:57 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 21:35:57 -0400 Subject: 64-bit questions? Message-ID: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> Greetings, How do I check if my OS 10.6 is running in 32-bit or 64- bit mode? I believe, to change to one or the other you hold down the 6 and 4 keys, or 3 and 2 keys, on bootup. Is this so? And, if you change to 64-bit mode after doing this how do you get the OS to stay in 64-bit mode when it reboots? Thanks for any help. kevin Kevin Barry If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something.-bit From chaas0217 at gmail.com Mon Jul 4 17:56:13 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:56:13 -0500 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> References: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> Crystal: You might check out VLC. I've not used it. But, it's supposed to be an awesome file converter, and it works with Mac. Not sure if it will undo WMA files. HTH Carolyn On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Krystal, > > Perhaps someone can chime in with a MacOS solution, but if you have access to Windows, SoundTaxi will do what you want. The interface isn't totally standard, hence you would need to make extensive use of the Jaws cursor. > > Best regards, > Geoff > > > On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:09 PM, krystal watson wrote: > >> i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help would be gladly recieved >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jul 5 04:02:16 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 20:02:16 -0700 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> References: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9C7F5A36-C978-441A-912E-2F7D8DC064BC@gmail.com> Hmm I can't get vlc to convert but that could be just me.. it tries to convert to the wrong format and half the time the result is not playable. lol. It could be me though. On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:56 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Crystal: > You might check out VLC. I've not used it. But, it's supposed to be an awesome file converter, and it works with Mac. Not sure if it will undo WMA files. > > HTH > Carolyn > On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Hi Krystal, >> >> Perhaps someone can chime in with a MacOS solution, but if you have access to Windows, SoundTaxi will do what you want. The interface isn't totally standard, hence you would need to make extensive use of the Jaws cursor. >> >> Best regards, >> Geoff >> >> >> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:09 PM, krystal watson wrote: >> >>> i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help would be gladly recieved >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Tue Jul 5 04:42:14 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Ishe Chinyoka) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 05:42:14 +0200 Subject: 64-bit questions? In-Reply-To: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> References: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi, You can open the System Profiler and go to Applications to see which program is running under 32- or 64-bit. i suspect most newer machines by default run in 64-bit mode, but they can handle 32-bit programs without problem unlike in Windows where there might be issues here and there. so Mac is able to run both 32 and 64-bit programs concurrently. I never tried that process of pressing 3 and 2 or 6 and 4 during boot up, but if it works, I am no longer sure if programs other than the chosen processor space will be handled correctly. So I think its best to let the system automatically allocate space as each application loads. Ishe On 05 Jul,2011, at 3:35 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > Greetings, > How do I check if my OS 10.6 is running in 32-bit or 64- bit mode? > I believe, to change to one or the other you hold down the 6 and 4 keys, or 3 and 2 keys, on bootup. > Is this so? > And, if you change to 64-bit mode after doing this how do you get the OS to stay in 64-bit mode when it reboots? > Thanks for any help. > kevin > > > > > Kevin Barry > If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something.-bit > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Tue Jul 5 05:11:42 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 23:11:42 -0500 Subject: 64-bit questions? In-Reply-To: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> References: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <8C2628E7-4FF9-4454-8C9B-5D98B439D375@tznet.com> Kevin: By default the OS won't boot in to 64 bit mode but turn off the computer, hold down the 6 and 4 keys and when you hear the startup chymes, wait till you hear VO talking. To find out if it worked, go to your Apple menu and VO space on about this Mac. Next VO right till you hear more info and hit VO space. The various catagories will be expaned such as hardware, network which I colapx. When I hear software, I stop interacting, right arrol and use the down arrow and you'll hear if it is enabled or not. I'll paste in the actual line and at the end of the line in your case if says no, then you are still in 32 bit mode. 64-bit Kernel and Extensions: Yes Take care, John On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > Greetings, > How do I check if my OS 10.6 is running in 32-bit or 64- bit mode? > I believe, to change to one or the other you hold down the 6 and 4 keys, or 3 and 2 keys, on bootup. > Is this so? > And, if you change to 64-bit mode after doing this how do you get the OS to stay in 64-bit mode when it reboots? > Thanks for any help. > kevin > > > > > Kevin Barry > If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something.-bit > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From kerie.doyle1987 at gmail.com Tue Jul 5 09:37:58 2011 From: kerie.doyle1987 at gmail.com (Kerie Doyle) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 09:37:58 +0100 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> References: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi carolyn you should use a program called easy WMA. its completely voice over accessible. what happens is you select the format in this case MP3, and bit rate you want your WMA converted to in a menu that pops up automatically when you open the app for the first time. then when you still have the app open you can select the files which you want to have converted to mp3. any time after this, if you come across a file you want converted, simply open it, and without you doing anything, easy WMA converts the file automatically. the link for you to find out more and download is at http://www.easywma.com/ It does cost a little but is absolutely worth it in my opinion really hope this helps Kerie On 4 Jul 2011, at 17:56, carolyn Haas wrote: > Crystal: > You might check out VLC. I've not used it. But, it's supposed to be an awesome file converter, and it works with Mac. Not sure if it will undo WMA files. > > HTH > Carolyn > On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Hi Krystal, >> >> Perhaps someone can chime in with a MacOS solution, but if you have access to Windows, SoundTaxi will do what you want. The interface isn't totally standard, hence you would need to make extensive use of the Jaws cursor. >> >> Best regards, >> Geoff >> >> >> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:09 PM, krystal watson wrote: >> >>> i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help would be gladly recieved >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Tue Jul 5 10:15:03 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 10:15:03 +0100 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: References: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Have you tried: http://audio.online-convert.com/ It's free and worth a go. Cheers G From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. On 5 Jul 2011, at 09:37, Kerie Doyle wrote: > Hi carolyn > > you should use a program called easy WMA. its completely voice over accessible. what happens is you select the format in this case MP3, and bit rate you want your WMA converted to in a menu that pops up automatically when you open the app for the first time. then when you still have the app open you can select the files which you want to have converted to mp3. any time after this, if you come across a file you want converted, simply open it, and without you doing anything, easy WMA converts the file automatically. the link for you to find out more and download is at > > http://www.easywma.com/ > > It does cost a little but is absolutely worth it in my opinion > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jul 5 12:13:15 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 08:13:15 -0300 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all References: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> Message-ID: Kerie: The question is: does it handle DRM WMA files? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerie Doyle" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 5:37 AM Subject: Re: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all > Hi carolyn > > you should use a program called easy WMA. its completely voice over > accessible. what happens is you select the format in this case MP3, and > bit rate you want your WMA converted to in a menu that pops up > automatically when you open the app for the first time. then when you > still have the app open you can select the files which you want to have > converted to mp3. any time after this, if you come across a file you want > converted, simply open it, and without you doing anything, easy WMA > converts the file automatically. the link for you to find out more and > download is at > > http://www.easywma.com/ > > It does cost a little but is absolutely worth it in my opinion > > really hope this helps > > Kerie > > On 4 Jul 2011, at 17:56, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Crystal: >> You might check out VLC. I've not used it. But, it's supposed to be an >> awesome file converter, and it works with Mac. Not sure if it will undo >> WMA files. >> >> HTH >> Carolyn >> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >>> Hi Krystal, >>> >>> Perhaps someone can chime in with a MacOS solution, but if you have >>> access to Windows, SoundTaxi will do what you want. The interface isn't >>> totally standard, hence you would need to make extensive use of the Jaws >>> cursor. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Geoff >>> >>> >>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:09 PM, krystal watson wrote: >>> >>>> i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format >>>> that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do >>>> the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help >>>> would be gladly recieved >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>> the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jul 5 12:19:04 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 08:19:04 -0300 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all References: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> Message-ID: <42AF07728799429CB9AA1355A7038D29@CNIBnotebook> carolyn. easy WMA will not play protected WMA files. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerie Doyle" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 5:37 AM Subject: Re: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all > Hi carolyn > > you should use a program called easy WMA. its completely voice over > accessible. what happens is you select the format in this case MP3, and > bit rate you want your WMA converted to in a menu that pops up > automatically when you open the app for the first time. then when you > still have the app open you can select the files which you want to have > converted to mp3. any time after this, if you come across a file you want > converted, simply open it, and without you doing anything, easy WMA > converts the file automatically. the link for you to find out more and > download is at > > http://www.easywma.com/ > > It does cost a little but is absolutely worth it in my opinion > > really hope this helps > > Kerie > > On 4 Jul 2011, at 17:56, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Crystal: >> You might check out VLC. I've not used it. But, it's supposed to be an >> awesome file converter, and it works with Mac. Not sure if it will undo >> WMA files. >> >> HTH >> Carolyn >> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >>> Hi Krystal, >>> >>> Perhaps someone can chime in with a MacOS solution, but if you have >>> access to Windows, SoundTaxi will do what you want. The interface isn't >>> totally standard, hence you would need to make extensive use of the Jaws >>> cursor. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Geoff >>> >>> >>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:09 PM, krystal watson wrote: >>> >>>> i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format >>>> that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do >>>> the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help >>>> would be gladly recieved >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>> the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From chaas0217 at gmail.com Tue Jul 5 16:52:46 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 10:52:46 -0500 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: References: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Kerie: Thanks for the info. I actually have been fortunate enough to have gotten my wma converted or otherwise Mac-i-fied a long time ago. But, I'm glad to know of this program so I don't give out bad info. Carolyn On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:37 AM, Kerie Doyle wrote: > Hi carolyn > > you should use a program called easy WMA. its completely voice over accessible. what happens is you select the format in this case MP3, and bit rate you want your WMA converted to in a menu that pops up automatically when you open the app for the first time. then when you still have the app open you can select the files which you want to have converted to mp3. any time after this, if you come across a file you want converted, simply open it, and without you doing anything, easy WMA converts the file automatically. the link for you to find out more and download is at > > http://www.easywma.com/ > > It does cost a little but is absolutely worth it in my opinion > > really hope this helps > > Kerie > > On 4 Jul 2011, at 17:56, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Crystal: >> You might check out VLC. I've not used it. But, it's supposed to be an awesome file converter, and it works with Mac. Not sure if it will undo WMA files. >> >> HTH >> Carolyn >> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >>> Hi Krystal, >>> >>> Perhaps someone can chime in with a MacOS solution, but if you have access to Windows, SoundTaxi will do what you want. The interface isn't totally standard, hence you would need to make extensive use of the Jaws cursor. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Geoff >>> >>> >>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:09 PM, krystal watson wrote: >>> >>>> i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help would be gladly recieved >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Tue Jul 5 17:03:44 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 12:03:44 -0400 Subject: gps for the Iphone In-Reply-To: References: <078173D5-CE84-411F-8D72-25C472EC22D5@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <8C407B71-96A8-46DC-9A75-34C53B4E5801@insightbb.com> Thanks for the information. i will check it out. Bill Deatherage From lavendar at bell.net Tue Jul 5 20:48:33 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:48:33 -0400 Subject: 64-bit questions? In-Reply-To: <8C2628E7-4FF9-4454-8C9B-5D98B439D375@tznet.com> References: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> <8C2628E7-4FF9-4454-8C9B-5D98B439D375@tznet.com> Message-ID: So, do you hold down the 6 and 4 keys right away, or not until you hear the start up chimes? Do you keep holding them until vo talks? What's the advantage, if any, of running in 64 bit mode? Thanks for the instructions... Caitlyn Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net On Jul 5, 2011, at 12:11 AM, John Gunn wrote: > Kevin: > > By default the OS won't boot in to 64 bit mode but turn off the computer, hold down the 6 and 4 keys and when you hear the startup chymes, wait till you hear VO talking. > > To find out if it worked, go to your Apple menu and VO space on about this Mac. > > Next VO right till you hear more info and hit VO space. > > The various catagories will be expaned such as hardware, network which I colapx. > > When I hear software, I stop interacting, right arrol and use the down arrow and you'll hear if it is enabled or not. > > I'll paste in the actual line and at the end of the line in your case if says no, then you are still in 32 bit mode. > > 64-bit Kernel and Extensions: Yes > > Take care, > > John > > > > On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > >> Greetings, >> How do I check if my OS 10.6 is running in 32-bit or 64- bit mode? >> I believe, to change to one or the other you hold down the 6 and 4 keys, or 3 and 2 keys, on bootup. >> Is this so? >> And, if you change to 64-bit mode after doing this how do you get the OS to stay in 64-bit mode when it reboots? >> Thanks for any help. >> kevin >> >> >> >> >> Kevin Barry >> If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something.-bit >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From gunn at tznet.com Tue Jul 5 21:40:05 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:40:05 -0500 Subject: 64-bit questions? In-Reply-To: References: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> <8C2628E7-4FF9-4454-8C9B-5D98B439D375@tznet.com> Message-ID: Hello: Hold down the 6 and 4 keys before hitting the power button. I kept them held down until I hear VO talking. I don't think you have to hold them that long but it won't hurt. The advantage of running 64Bit mode in my opinion better memory management. When running 32Bit, I noticed my virtual memory folder on the average is roughly 1.07GB and after running VMWare in 64Bit mode 134MB. Even when I don't launch VMWare, 67MB and over all a bit of a speed as well. To check the size of your virtual memory folder which is what OSXuses swap files do the following. Command-Shift-G and type in /var/vm and hit return. Then since I like to view in columns, command-3, interact with the VM folder, command-i and you can check the size. John On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > So, do you hold down the 6 and 4 keys right away, or not until you hear the start up chimes? Do you keep holding them until vo talks? > > What's the advantage, if any, of running in 64 bit mode? > > Thanks for the instructions... > > Caitlyn > > Caitlyn Furness > lavendar at bell.net > > > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 12:11 AM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Kevin: >> >> By default the OS won't boot in to 64 bit mode but turn off the computer, hold down the 6 and 4 keys and when you hear the startup chymes, wait till you hear VO talking. >> >> To find out if it worked, go to your Apple menu and VO space on about this Mac. >> >> Next VO right till you hear more info and hit VO space. >> >> The various catagories will be expaned such as hardware, network which I colapx. >> >> When I hear software, I stop interacting, right arrol and use the down arrow and you'll hear if it is enabled or not. >> >> I'll paste in the actual line and at the end of the line in your case if says no, then you are still in 32 bit mode. >> >> 64-bit Kernel and Extensions: Yes >> >> Take care, >> >> John >> >> >> >> On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: >> >>> Greetings, >>> How do I check if my OS 10.6 is running in 32-bit or 64- bit mode? >>> I believe, to change to one or the other you hold down the 6 and 4 keys, or 3 and 2 keys, on bootup. >>> Is this so? >>> And, if you change to 64-bit mode after doing this how do you get the OS to stay in 64-bit mode when it reboots? >>> Thanks for any help. >>> kevin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Kevin Barry >>> If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something.-bit >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From support at mac-access.net Tue Jul 5 22:55:41 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 22:55:41 +0100 Subject: Mac Access Dot Net; Take Control Clients [Query, seeking your opinions] Message-ID: <4FEFAA05-B3F8-44D7-B4DD-EB633D9E15CC@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Just a couple of quick questions primarily for those who have Take Control books which they have bought via Mac Access Dot Net directly; although naturally, we would welcome any constructive comment from any member. Are you likely to want the "Mobi" versions of the eBooks we store on your bookshelf? We have begun work to re-organise the layout of the server, and we would be interested to know whether our clients have use or need for that version of the books. We will, needless to say, be retaining both the ePub and PDF versions come what may. and, if there is a need for them, we will happily retain the "Mobi" versions as well. We are re-organising to more closely reflect the layout of the official TC site, with two exceptions. 1. Our service is, and will remain, 100% accessible. 2. Our service supports more protocols than does the TC site, and, if you are logged in using our WFM, you can now queue multiple files at once to transfer which is something that I know some users have been requesting. On the subject of the TC site, we have been working closely with Adam to try and re-enable accessibility of the books library. Currently VoiceOver gets very very confused on the accounts section of that site. Oddly enough other screen-readers have absolutely no problem with it,so we think it's more a VO issue than a website one; but the likelihood of Apple fixing it pre-release of the upcoming Lion and related updates is, we believe, quite low. And just one more little reminder that the URL for your books has changed. If you require more information please contact the support address. But basically you should replace with ; your log-in credentials remain the same as we provided in your order completed emails. We continue to invest heavily here at Mac Access Dot Net, and we are happy to be able to tell you that the WFM, WebDAV and SFTP services in their new homes use the same 2048-bit industry-standard SSL encryption. One more thing we have added which I should tell you about; the log-in screen now gives you the option to remember your user data on that machine so that, if you log into the WFM a second time, you will find it more strait-forward. However, we are contemplating not storing the passwords in those cookies so that the system is more secure. You are, of course, able to modify your password via the WFM main window if you choose. And, should you ever lose your log-in credentials, simply use the "Forgot Password" link on the long-in window to have your credentials emailed to you. Comment, on or off list, welcome, though it might be best off list. I'll leave that to your discretion. But be assured that despite his ongoing health problems, Gordon is continuing to work hard to improve all of our services. We know we're not there yet; but hopefully we're not too far away. Lynne From n0oxy at charter.net Wed Jul 6 00:23:40 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 18:23:40 -0500 Subject: 64-bit questions? In-Reply-To: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> References: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5A3BCE63-B5A5-4C30-ACA5-8EABE9BC5A58@charter.net> I think it defaults to booting in to 32 bit mode, holding down the 6 and 4 keys will work, assuming your firmware is 64 bit, I don't know if this offers any advantage, and I've heard some programs, such as fusion will not work. On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > Greetings, > How do I check if my OS 10.6 is running in 32-bit or 64- bit mode? > I believe, to change to one or the other you hold down the 6 and 4 keys, or 3 and 2 keys, on bootup. > Is this so? > And, if you change to 64-bit mode after doing this how do you get the OS to stay in 64-bit mode when it reboots? > Thanks for any help. > kevin > > > > > Kevin Barry > If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something.-bit > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Wed Jul 6 00:41:50 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 19:41:50 -0400 Subject: 64-bit questions? In-Reply-To: <8C2628E7-4FF9-4454-8C9B-5D98B439D375@tznet.com> References: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> <8C2628E7-4FF9-4454-8C9B-5D98B439D375@tznet.com> Message-ID: <4e13a137.a75b340a.1bdf.ffffb1cc@mx.google.com> John, thanks very much. turns out my 2011 MBP was booting in 32-bit mode. I got it to boot into 64-bit mode and I think, not 100 percent sure yet, it now defaults to 64-bit mode upon bootup. Kevin At 12:11 AM 7/5/2011, you wrote: >Kevin: > >By default the OS won't boot in to 64 bit mode but turn off the >computer, hold down the 6 and 4 keys and when you hear the startup >chymes, wait till you hear VO talking. > >To find out if it worked, go to your Apple menu and VO space on >about this Mac. > >Next VO right till you hear more info and hit VO space. > >The various catagories will be expaned such as hardware, network >which I colapx. > >When I hear software, I stop interacting, right arrol and use the >down arrow and you'll hear if it is enabled or not. > >I'll paste in the actual line and at the end of the line in your >case if says no, then you are still in 32 bit mode. > > 64-bit Kernel and Extensions: Yes > >Take care, > >John > > > >On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > > > Greetings, > > How do I check if my OS 10.6 is running in 32-bit or 64- bit mode? > > I believe, to change to one or the other you hold down the 6 > and 4 keys, or 3 and 2 keys, on bootup. > > Is this so? > > And, if you change to 64-bit mode after doing this how do you > get the OS to stay in 64-bit mode when it reboots? > > Thanks for any help. > > kevin > > > > > > > > > > Kevin Barry > > If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something.-bit > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Wed Jul 6 00:43:05 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 19:43:05 -0400 Subject: 64-bit questions? In-Reply-To: <5A3BCE63-B5A5-4C30-ACA5-8EABE9BC5A58@charter.net> References: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> <5A3BCE63-B5A5-4C30-ACA5-8EABE9BC5A58@charter.net> Message-ID: <4e13a182.471c340a.157b.ffffaf4e@mx.google.com> Fusion works just fine. In fact, now Windows 7, 64-bit edition, which I am running on fusion will use more than 3.5 gb of ram if I choose. Kevin At 07:23 PM 7/5/2011, you wrote: >I think it defaults to booting in to 32 bit mode, holding down the 6 >and 4 keys will work, assuming your firmware is 64 bit, I don't know >if this offers any advantage, and I've heard some programs, such as >fusion will not work. >On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > > > Greetings, > > How do I check if my OS 10.6 is running in 32-bit or 64- bit mode? > > I believe, to change to one or the other you hold down the 6 > and 4 keys, or 3 and 2 keys, on bootup. > > Is this so? > > And, if you change to 64-bit mode after doing this how do you > get the OS to stay in 64-bit mode when it reboots? > > Thanks for any help. > > kevin > > > > > > > > > > Kevin Barry > > If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something.-bit > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Wed Jul 6 00:52:52 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 18:52:52 -0500 Subject: gps for the Iphone In-Reply-To: <8C407B71-96A8-46DC-9A75-34C53B4E5801@insightbb.com> References: <078173D5-CE84-411F-8D72-25C472EC22D5@insightbb.com> <8C407B71-96A8-46DC-9A75-34C53B4E5801@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Regarding iphone GPS, I uploaded part 2 of demonstrating GPS apps for the iphone, hopefully it will be posted soon, navigon and TomTom were covered in the first one. In the second show, I look at the magellan road mate app and motionx GPS drive. There are a few others, but I ddn't cover them for different reasons. The garmin street pilot app is very accessible, but does not provide spoken instructions in walking mode, there's also map quest, bt I've never gotten that one to work very well, and the interface is difficult to say the least. On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:03 AM, William Deatherage wrote: > Thanks for the information. i will check it out. > Bill Deatherage > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Wed Jul 6 02:36:59 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:36:59 -0500 Subject: 64-bit questions? In-Reply-To: <4e13a137.a75b340a.1bdf.ffffb1cc@mx.google.com> References: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> <8C2628E7-4FF9-4454-8C9B-5D98B439D375@tznet.com> <4e13a137.a75b340a.1bdf.ffffb1cc@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <3C46166D-3507-4323-BD8E-EB6D1B0DAFE8@tznet.com> Kevin: Glad it worked however if you do a complete shut down and restart I think it will go back to 32Bit mode. There is a terminal command you can run but I don't know what it is but if you look under the Apple Support page, you may find it. I also run Fusion and in 32Bit mode when doing a command-tab back to OSX probably around a 7 second delay before VO would speak but when in 64Bit no delay at all. Take care, John On Jul 5, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > John, > thanks very much. > turns out my 2011 MBP was booting in 32-bit mode. > I got it to boot into 64-bit mode and I think, not 100 percent sure yet, it now defaults to 64-bit mode upon bootup. > Kevin > > At 12:11 AM 7/5/2011, you wrote: >> Kevin: >> >> By default the OS won't boot in to 64 bit mode but turn off the computer, hold down the 6 and 4 keys and when you hear the startup chymes, wait till you hear VO talking. >> >> To find out if it worked, go to your Apple menu and VO space on about this Mac. >> >> Next VO right till you hear more info and hit VO space. >> >> The various catagories will be expaned such as hardware, network which I colapx. >> >> When I hear software, I stop interacting, right arrol and use the down arrow and you'll hear if it is enabled or not. >> >> I'll paste in the actual line and at the end of the line in your case if says no, then you are still in 32 bit mode. >> >> 64-bit Kernel and Extensions: Yes >> >> Take care, >> >> John >> >> >> >> On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: >> >> > Greetings, >> > How do I check if my OS 10.6 is running in 32-bit or 64- bit mode? >> > I believe, to change to one or the other you hold down the 6 and 4 keys, or 3 and 2 keys, on bootup. >> > Is this so? >> > And, if you change to 64-bit mode after doing this how do you get the OS to stay in 64-bit mode when it reboots? >> > Thanks for any help. >> > kevin >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Kevin Barry >> > If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something.-bit >> > >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> > >> > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> > >> > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > >> > >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Wed Jul 6 07:57:04 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 07:57:04 +0100 Subject: apple ibook Message-ID: <502C31C3-21CE-4CD7-8CF7-F7A992602106@virginmedia.com> hi all i want some advice please i have found an apple ibook apple ibook g4 laptop they want 230.00 pounds this is the speck 6.5 cpu speed 125 gz memory 120 gb 60 gig hard drive what do you think ??? many thanks jules :) From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Jul 6 08:06:34 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 17:06:34 +1000 Subject: apple ibook In-Reply-To: <502C31C3-21CE-4CD7-8CF7-F7A992602106@virginmedia.com> References: <502C31C3-21CE-4CD7-8CF7-F7A992602106@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: This machine is certainly not current and in my view its over priced, I gather you'll want to run the current version of Mac OSx and the Ibook certainly won't do that, I had one what.. 6 years ago I think it was so that gives you an idea of the age of the machine. Yep nice machine no doubt but no, won't run any of the OSX operating systems above Leopard, runs best with Tiger. On 06/07/2011, at 4:57 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: > hi all i want some advice please i have found an apple ibook > > apple ibook g4 laptop > > they want 230.00 pounds this is the speck > > 6.5 cpu speed 125 gz memory 120 gb > 60 gig hard drive > > what do you think ??? > > many thanks > > jules :) > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Wed Jul 6 08:15:05 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:15:05 +0100 Subject: apple ibook In-Reply-To: References: <502C31C3-21CE-4CD7-8CF7-F7A992602106@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <7DFBD6D6-05D0-47BD-A4BB-7C3CA33CF215@virginmedia.com> ooh ok might give that a miss then thank you saved me some money i want a laptop or mac book so i can take it with me and my brother found this one ok thanks again smiley jules On 6 Jul 2011, at 08:06, Dane Trethowan wrote: > This machine is certainly not current and in my view its over priced, I gather you'll want to run the current version of Mac OSx and the Ibook certainly won't do that, I had one what.. 6 years ago I think it was so that gives you an idea of the age of the machine. > > Yep nice machine no doubt but no, won't run any of the OSX operating systems above Leopard, runs best with Tiger. > > > On 06/07/2011, at 4:57 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> hi all i want some advice please i have found an apple ibook >> >> apple ibook g4 laptop >> >> they want 230.00 pounds this is the speck >> >> 6.5 cpu speed 125 gz memory 120 gb >> 60 gig hard drive >> >> what do you think ??? >> >> many thanks >> >> jules :) >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Wed Jul 6 10:31:44 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 19:31:44 +1000 Subject: Garage band tutorials for ILife 11. Message-ID: <174ED619-B206-46C7-933A-592B40D9A8F3@bigpond.net.au> Hi All. I am seeking for very good beginner tutorials for Garage Band. I wish to be able to create music. Such as drum beats, Synth in the background, etc. Also, can VO work with the online tutorials for music lessons you can download for Garage band? What are the limitations of garage band in creating music. Sean . From weavermicha at googlemail.com Wed Jul 6 11:21:18 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:21:18 +0100 Subject: strange sound in pages Message-ID: <4e143753.0e11df0a.541b.06d2@mx.google.com> i am puzzled when using pages. every so often i hear a strange sound while i am typing. does this strange sound signify anything for example a new page? From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Jul 6 12:13:32 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:13:32 +0200 Subject: strange sound in pages In-Reply-To: <4e143753.0e11df0a.541b.06d2@mx.google.com> References: <4e143753.0e11df0a.541b.06d2@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <05E2550E-49D2-4BDD-8286-F12D3FD8EB38@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Michael, If the strange sound is a kind of bubbling noise, then it does mean that you've gone onto a new page. Cheers, Anne On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:21 PM, michael weaver wrote: > i am puzzled when using pages. > every so often i hear a strange sound while i am typing. > does this strange sound signify anything for example a new page? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Wed Jul 6 16:13:00 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:13:00 +1000 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: References: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> Message-ID: <01537CAB-3668-4D17-A6B3-7285E1A9B3CD@bluebottle.com> sad smile there has to be something to convert protected w m a files out there please can't some one help me On 06/07/2011, at 1:52 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Kerie: > Thanks for the info. I actually have been fortunate enough to have gotten my wma converted or otherwise Mac-i-fied a long time ago. But, I'm glad to know of this program so I don't give out bad info. > > Carolyn > On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:37 AM, Kerie Doyle wrote: > >> Hi carolyn >> >> you should use a program called easy WMA. its completely voice over accessible. what happens is you select the format in this case MP3, and bit rate you want your WMA converted to in a menu that pops up automatically when you open the app for the first time. then when you still have the app open you can select the files which you want to have converted to mp3. any time after this, if you come across a file you want converted, simply open it, and without you doing anything, easy WMA converts the file automatically. the link for you to find out more and download is at >> >> http://www.easywma.com/ >> >> It does cost a little but is absolutely worth it in my opinion >> >> really hope this helps >> >> Kerie >> >> On 4 Jul 2011, at 17:56, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Crystal: >>> You might check out VLC. I've not used it. But, it's supposed to be an awesome file converter, and it works with Mac. Not sure if it will undo WMA files. >>> >>> HTH >>> Carolyn >>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Krystal, >>>> >>>> Perhaps someone can chime in with a MacOS solution, but if you have access to Windows, SoundTaxi will do what you want. The interface isn't totally standard, hence you would need to make extensive use of the Jaws cursor. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Geoff >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:09 PM, krystal watson wrote: >>>> >>>>> i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help would be gladly recieved >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 6 18:39:09 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:39:09 -0700 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: <01537CAB-3668-4D17-A6B3-7285E1A9B3CD@bluebottle.com> References: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> <01537CAB-3668-4D17-A6B3-7285E1A9B3CD@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <091C05DB-7CF4-42DE-A1F1-A13FAB79BDE1@gmail.com> You could hijack the thing you use to play protected wma but I so far cannot find a way to play protected wma files. this is why I don't protect them. Take care. On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:13 AM, krystal watson wrote: > sad smile there has to be something to convert protected w m a files out there please can't some one help me > On 06/07/2011, at 1:52 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Kerie: >> Thanks for the info. I actually have been fortunate enough to have gotten my wma converted or otherwise Mac-i-fied a long time ago. But, I'm glad to know of this program so I don't give out bad info. >> >> Carolyn >> On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:37 AM, Kerie Doyle wrote: >> >>> Hi carolyn >>> >>> you should use a program called easy WMA. its completely voice over accessible. what happens is you select the format in this case MP3, and bit rate you want your WMA converted to in a menu that pops up automatically when you open the app for the first time. then when you still have the app open you can select the files which you want to have converted to mp3. any time after this, if you come across a file you want converted, simply open it, and without you doing anything, easy WMA converts the file automatically. the link for you to find out more and download is at >>> >>> http://www.easywma.com/ >>> >>> It does cost a little but is absolutely worth it in my opinion >>> >>> really hope this helps >>> >>> Kerie >>> >>> On 4 Jul 2011, at 17:56, carolyn Haas wrote: >>> >>>> Crystal: >>>> You might check out VLC. I've not used it. But, it's supposed to be an awesome file converter, and it works with Mac. Not sure if it will undo WMA files. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> Carolyn >>>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Krystal, >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps someone can chime in with a MacOS solution, but if you have access to Windows, SoundTaxi will do what you want. The interface isn't totally standard, hence you would need to make extensive use of the Jaws cursor. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Geoff >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:09 PM, krystal watson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help would be gladly recieved >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Wed Jul 6 22:26:25 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:26:25 +1000 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: <091C05DB-7CF4-42DE-A1F1-A13FAB79BDE1@gmail.com> References: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> <01537CAB-3668-4D17-A6B3-7285E1A9B3CD@bluebottle.com> <091C05DB-7CF4-42DE-A1F1-A13FAB79BDE1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5CCB3396-BA18-4C26-8AF9-A268C55DD250@bluebottle.com> yes well i didn't actually protect them they were on a friends cd and they were already protected when she baught them and there is nothing to play the files so how can i hijack them if i can not play them on the mac? and i don't have windoes on here any way so i can't do that inless some one here wants to do it for me that has a way to do it? sorry i just love this kind of music and its sad that i can not play it or convert it from the protected form that it is in cheers from krystal On 07/07/2011, at 3:39 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You could hijack the thing you use to play protected wma but I so far cannot find a way to play protected wma files. this is why I don't protect them. > > Take care. > On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:13 AM, krystal watson wrote: > >> sad smile there has to be something to convert protected w m a files out there please can't some one help me >> On 06/07/2011, at 1:52 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Kerie: >>> Thanks for the info. I actually have been fortunate enough to have gotten my wma converted or otherwise Mac-i-fied a long time ago. But, I'm glad to know of this program so I don't give out bad info. >>> >>> Carolyn >>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:37 AM, Kerie Doyle wrote: >>> >>>> Hi carolyn >>>> >>>> you should use a program called easy WMA. its completely voice over accessible. what happens is you select the format in this case MP3, and bit rate you want your WMA converted to in a menu that pops up automatically when you open the app for the first time. then when you still have the app open you can select the files which you want to have converted to mp3. any time after this, if you come across a file you want converted, simply open it, and without you doing anything, easy WMA converts the file automatically. the link for you to find out more and download is at >>>> >>>> http://www.easywma.com/ >>>> >>>> It does cost a little but is absolutely worth it in my opinion >>>> >>>> really hope this helps >>>> >>>> Kerie >>>> >>>> On 4 Jul 2011, at 17:56, carolyn Haas wrote: >>>> >>>>> Crystal: >>>>> You might check out VLC. I've not used it. But, it's supposed to be an awesome file converter, and it works with Mac. Not sure if it will undo WMA files. >>>>> >>>>> HTH >>>>> Carolyn >>>>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Krystal, >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps someone can chime in with a MacOS solution, but if you have access to Windows, SoundTaxi will do what you want. The interface isn't totally standard, hence you would need to make extensive use of the Jaws cursor. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Geoff >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:09 PM, krystal watson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help would be gladly recieved >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Wed Jul 6 22:49:19 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Ishe Chinyoka) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 23:49:19 +0200 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: <5CCB3396-BA18-4C26-8AF9-A268C55DD250@bluebottle.com> References: <4863CC73-0393-4379-993D-3F715AC95F75@gmail.com> <2A1E0AB1-FBB5-42A9-BCCC-E5B784B9BF34@gmail.com> <01537CAB-3668-4D17-A6B3-7285E1A9B3CD@bluebottle.com> <091C05DB-7CF4-42DE-A1F1-A13FAB79BDE1@gmail.com> <5CCB3396-BA18-4C26-8AF9-A268C55DD250@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <43C27C81-8948-43E9-8210-03F3E624EDD2@econetmail.com> try NoteBurner. however, I am not sure about its accessibility with Voiceover, but here is a link to check: http://www.noteburner.com/howto/protected-wma-file-to-mp3.html good luck, Ishe On 06 Jul,2011, at 11:26 PM, krystal watson wrote: > yes well i didn't actually protect them they were on a friends cd and they were already protected when she baught them and there is nothing to play the files so how can i hijack them if i can not play them on the mac? and i don't have windoes on here any way so i can't do that inless some one here wants to do it for me that has a way to do it? sorry i just love this kind of music and its sad that i can not play it or convert it from the protected form that it is in cheers from krystal > On 07/07/2011, at 3:39 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> You could hijack the thing you use to play protected wma but I so far cannot find a way to play protected wma files. this is why I don't protect them. >> >> Take care. >> On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:13 AM, krystal watson wrote: >> >>> sad smile there has to be something to convert protected w m a files out there please can't some one help me >>> On 06/07/2011, at 1:52 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Kerie: >>>> Thanks for the info. I actually have been fortunate enough to have gotten my wma converted or otherwise Mac-i-fied a long time ago. But, I'm glad to know of this program so I don't give out bad info. >>>> >>>> Carolyn >>>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:37 AM, Kerie Doyle wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi carolyn >>>>> >>>>> you should use a program called easy WMA. its completely voice over accessible. what happens is you select the format in this case MP3, and bit rate you want your WMA converted to in a menu that pops up automatically when you open the app for the first time. then when you still have the app open you can select the files which you want to have converted to mp3. any time after this, if you come across a file you want converted, simply open it, and without you doing anything, easy WMA converts the file automatically. the link for you to find out more and download is at >>>>> >>>>> http://www.easywma.com/ >>>>> >>>>> It does cost a little but is absolutely worth it in my opinion >>>>> >>>>> really hope this helps >>>>> >>>>> Kerie >>>>> >>>>> On 4 Jul 2011, at 17:56, carolyn Haas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Crystal: >>>>>> You might check out VLC. I've not used it. But, it's supposed to be an awesome file converter, and it works with Mac. Not sure if it will undo WMA files. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH >>>>>> Carolyn >>>>>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Krystal, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps someone can chime in with a MacOS solution, but if you have access to Windows, SoundTaxi will do what you want. The interface isn't totally standard, hence you would need to make extensive use of the Jaws cursor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:09 PM, krystal watson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i got some beautiful music that i love that is stuck in w m a format that is protected can any one help me out here i don't know what to do the mac will not play protected or normal w m a at all thanks any help would be gladly recieved >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Thu Jul 7 00:53:10 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 18:53:10 -0500 Subject: apple ibook In-Reply-To: <502C31C3-21CE-4CD7-8CF7-F7A992602106@virginmedia.com> References: <502C31C3-21CE-4CD7-8CF7-F7A992602106@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <4241EBD1-80C1-4A1D-97CF-AC36CC82AD3E@charter.net> I would say it's not worth it, that platform is majorly outdated. On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:57 AM, Julie Vaughan wrote: > hi all i want some advice please i have found an apple ibook > > apple ibook g4 laptop > > they want 230.00 pounds this is the speck > > 6.5 cpu speed 125 gz memory 120 gb > 60 gig hard drive > > what do you think ??? > > many thanks > > jules :) > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Jul 7 05:09:50 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 23:09:50 -0500 Subject: survailance programs Message-ID: Anyone know of a program (accessible or not) that will allow you to use your mac and it's camera to take footage when not home so you can see what's happening when you're not there? We came home from our 4th of July trip to find someone had been in the house. Likely it was the idiot we're fighting with about ownership of the house, but since it's not his, he legally shouldn't be inside the place, so I want something to record when we're not present from now on, so we have proof next time it happens, and I have no doubt it will happen again. Any assistance at all would be very much appreciated. From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Jul 7 15:32:37 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:32:37 -0500 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90D55A60-B109-4030-8436-A0747DFDC4C4@softcon.com> Osx can play wma files, but only unprotected ones, and only with the flip for mac app or the flip for mac quicktime plugin. There used to be a safari plugin, but I've not seen it recently, and I was never able to get it to work anyhow. As far as I know, protected wma files can only be played in windows, or a ms compatible music player that handles the format. You'll need to get help from a windows user, or find a compatible player and just capture the audio output with something like audio hijack or something similar. There is no way to play protected wma files on osx. Ms did have a version of the wma player (version 9.0) that did run on Tiger, but any wma protected files you'll run into these days are not compatible with version 9, so it won't work either. I've never found anything at all that can handle protected wma files, even in the gray areas of strip protection from my own files so I can play them for myself arena, so I don' think it's likely you'll have much luck, but I have been known to be wrong (fairly regularly) so if you do find something, please let us all know, I have about 15 audio books I had to repurchase in another format, because the first eddition was only available in drm protected wma formats. so that was a waste of money. Since then though, I've bought them from other sources which weren't available when they first came out, so that's taken care of, but sure would be nice not to loose that investment entirely. :) From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Thu Jul 7 16:14:01 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 01:14:01 +1000 Subject: how do i convert protected w m a to mp3 mac will not play w m a at all In-Reply-To: <90D55A60-B109-4030-8436-A0747DFDC4C4@softcon.com> References: <90D55A60-B109-4030-8436-A0747DFDC4C4@softcon.com> Message-ID: <4961C5A9-31C2-4141-8F0B-64F4637E4A3A@bluebottle.com> i know the feeling if only there was some one who had windoes and the software to do it and they were willing to help i would love it a lot thanks skype musicangel31 msn krystalwatson at bluebottle.com feel free to help if you can thanks On 08/07/2011, at 12:32 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Osx can play wma files, but only unprotected ones, and only with the flip for mac app or the flip for mac quicktime plugin. There used to be a safari plugin, but I've not seen it recently, and I was never able to get it to work anyhow. > As far as I know, protected wma files can only be played in windows, or a ms compatible music player that handles the format. > You'll need to get help from a windows user, or find a compatible player and just capture the audio output with something like audio hijack or something similar. > There is no way to play protected wma files on osx. > Ms did have a version of the wma player (version 9.0) that did run on Tiger, but any wma protected files you'll run into these days are not compatible with version 9, so it won't work either. > I've never found anything at all that can handle protected wma files, even in the gray areas of strip protection from my own files so I can play them for myself arena, so I don' think it's likely you'll have much luck, but I have been known to be wrong (fairly regularly) so if you do find something, please let us all know, I have about 15 audio books I had to repurchase in another format, because the first eddition was only available in drm protected wma formats. so that was a waste of money. > Since then though, I've bought them from other sources which weren't available when they first came out, so that's taken care of, but sure would be nice not to loose that investment entirely. :) > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 7 16:23:33 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:23:33 +0100 Subject: Mac Access Dot Net;New Article Message-ID: Hello everybody I just posted a new article to our website which deals with the subject of system backups. This is only the first version and undoubtedly I'll do better with it in future. But if you'd be interested in reading my ramblings, please (don't laugh too hard); point your web browser either to the Mac Access Doit Net blog which lives at or visit our main website at then navigate to the Software Corner and then look for System backup. Otherwise, here is a direct URL . This is my very first effort and already reading this I'm dying of embarrassment. I'm starting to wish I hadn't done it. :'-) Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jul 7 16:48:14 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 08:48:14 -0700 Subject: Macworld releases Macworld Daily Reader 1.1 iPad app Message-ID: <09F9825D-B940-4A6B-812C-70F4B2681130@gmail.com> Macworld releases Macworld Daily Reader 1.1 iPad app Macworld has released Macworld Daily Reader 1.1, an updated iPad app that adds breaking-news alerts, improved readability performance, and more. It's available now for free on the App Store. http://rss.macworld.com/click.phdo?i=f4224c2066f1d4b6e2f44dbed5bf9e66 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jul 7 16:50:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 08:50:15 -0700 Subject: 10.6: Option-click audio menu extra to choose source Message-ID: I tried this out and it works perfectly 10.6: Option-click audio menu extra to choose source If you want an easy way to change the input or output sound source on your mac (say between the internal microphone and audio-in) in Mac OSX Snow Leopard you can simply option-click on the audio menu-extra in your menu bar. This hint is actually from commenter Monoclast on MacUpdate.com from a review on the program SoundSource which adds a new Menu Extra to do exactly this. [crarko adds: I tested this, and it works as described.] http://feeds.macosxhints.com/click.phdo?i=47173c75c94e171716fb4aa962d8be10 From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Thu Jul 7 17:08:00 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 13:08:00 -0300 Subject: Option-click audio menu extra to choose source References: Message-ID: <7EF893CDE7DA4B5BA7C6C95F95DF2B09@CNIBnotebook> Hi: I don't see the audio menu-extra in the menu bar. Is there another setting to be made? Thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:50 PM Subject: 10.6: Option-click audio menu extra to choose source >I tried this out and it works perfectly > > 10.6: Option-click audio menu extra to choose source > > If you want an easy way to change the input or output sound source on your > mac (say between the internal microphone and audio-in) in Mac OSX Snow > Leopard you can simply option-click on the audio menu-extra in your menu > bar. > > This hint is actually from commenter Monoclast on MacUpdate.com from a > review on the program SoundSource which adds a new Menu Extra to do > exactly this. > > [crarko adds: I tested this, and it works as described.] > > > http://feeds.macosxhints.com/click.phdo?i=47173c75c94e171716fb4aa962d8be10 > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jul 7 17:33:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:33:39 -0700 Subject: Option-click audio menu extra to choose source In-Reply-To: <7EF893CDE7DA4B5BA7C6C95F95DF2B09@CNIBnotebook> References: <7EF893CDE7DA4B5BA7C6C95F95DF2B09@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: <8AFAD804-D742-4C39-8A96-96DCAF0D8236@gmail.com> Um? odd. it should just be there. Go to that preference with option f12 or if on a laptop and you have your fn keys turned off fn option f12 and check show icon in the menu bar, actually its the status bar. vo m m or ctrl f8. lol! Take care. On Jul 7, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi: > > I don't see the audio menu-extra in the menu bar. > > Is there another setting to be made? > > Thanks all over the place. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:50 PM > Subject: 10.6: Option-click audio menu extra to choose source > > >> I tried this out and it works perfectly >> >> 10.6: Option-click audio menu extra to choose source >> >> If you want an easy way to change the input or output sound source on your mac (say between the internal microphone and audio-in) in Mac OSX Snow Leopard you can simply option-click on the audio menu-extra in your menu bar. >> >> This hint is actually from commenter Monoclast on MacUpdate.com from a review on the program SoundSource which adds a new Menu Extra to do exactly this. >> >> [crarko adds: I tested this, and it works as described.] >> >> >> http://feeds.macosxhints.com/click.phdo?i=47173c75c94e171716fb4aa962d8be10 >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Thu Jul 7 17:48:41 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 13:48:41 -0300 Subject: Option-click audio menu extra to choose source References: <7EF893CDE7DA4B5BA7C6C95F95DF2B09@CNIBnotebook> <8AFAD804-D742-4C39-8A96-96DCAF0D8236@gmail.com> Message-ID: <28E4DA8FD6B748A196512BF585B2559C@CNIBnotebook> Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Option-click audio menu extra to choose source > Um? odd. it should just be there. Go to that preference with option f12 or > if on a laptop and you have your fn keys turned off fn option f12 and > check show icon in the menu bar, actually its the status bar. vo m m or > ctrl f8. lol! > > Take care. > On Jul 7, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi: >> >> I don't see the audio menu-extra in the menu bar. >> >> Is there another setting to be made? >> >> Thanks all over the place. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:50 PM >> Subject: 10.6: Option-click audio menu extra to choose source >> >> >>> I tried this out and it works perfectly >>> >>> 10.6: Option-click audio menu extra to choose source >>> >>> If you want an easy way to change the input or output sound source on >>> your mac (say between the internal microphone and audio-in) in Mac OSX >>> Snow Leopard you can simply option-click on the audio menu-extra in your >>> menu bar. >>> >>> This hint is actually from commenter Monoclast on MacUpdate.com from a >>> review on the program SoundSource which adds a new Menu Extra to do >>> exactly this. >>> >>> [crarko adds: I tested this, and it works as described.] >>> >>> >>> http://feeds.macosxhints.com/click.phdo?i=47173c75c94e171716fb4aa962d8be10 >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact > me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Thu Jul 7 17:59:35 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 17:59:35 +0100 Subject: survailance programs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5B1BC4D1-F672-4EEC-A617-3640712E80FE@virginmedia.com> Hi Travis! This might be worth a look! They offer a 30 day trial! If it turns out to be vo friendly that will be a bonus! http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&newsID=17667 hth Colin On 7 Jul 2011, at 05:09, Travis Siegel wrote: > Anyone know of a program (accessible or not) that will allow you to use your mac and it's camera to take footage when not home so you can see what's happening when you're not there? > We came home from our 4th of July trip to find someone had been in the house. > Likely it was the idiot we're fighting with about ownership of the house, but since it's not his, he legally shouldn't be inside the place, so I want something to record when we're not present from now on, so we have proof next time it happens, and I have no doubt it will happen again. > Any assistance at all would be very much appreciated. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Jul 7 18:56:05 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 19:56:05 +0200 Subject: App compatibility with Lion Message-ID: <97C2B7F8-4819-457E-8825-36730E2C27AF@anarchie.org.uk> Hello everyone, Here's a site where you can check an app's compatibility with Lion. http://roaringapps.com I checked on ABBYY FineReader and it's listed as not being compatible. Grrrrr! Cheers, Anne From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Jul 7 19:24:01 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:24:01 +0200 Subject: App compatibility with Lion In-Reply-To: <97C2B7F8-4819-457E-8825-36730E2C27AF@anarchie.org.uk> References: <97C2B7F8-4819-457E-8825-36730E2C27AF@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Anne, This is because of the fact that ABBY FineReader is not 64-bit compatible, though. I'm sure they'll get around to fixing this, seeing as I just bought it and I will be a disappointed customer if they don't, and you know how that is. Thanks for the list, and I'll have a look. I reckon, though, that most apps that are 64-bit compatible will work fine, though from an accessibility standpoint you may see some differences even visually, given that Xcode has some changes. Regards, Nic On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Here's a site where you can check an app's compatibility with Lion. > http://roaringapps.com > > > I checked on ABBYY FineReader and it's listed as not being compatible. Grrrrr! > > Cheers, > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Jul 7 19:43:03 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:43:03 +0200 Subject: App compatibility with Lion In-Reply-To: <97C2B7F8-4819-457E-8825-36730E2C27AF@anarchie.org.uk> References: <97C2B7F8-4819-457E-8825-36730E2C27AF@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Just to explain how to use this site: you have to click on View as grid, then you'll find each app as a level 4 heading, so it's easy to check for an app in the Web Rotor, then look at its status. Cheers, Anne On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Here's a site where you can check an app's compatibility with Lion. > http://roaringapps.com > > > I checked on ABBYY FineReader and it's listed as not being compatible. Grrrrr! > > Cheers, > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Fri Jul 8 02:38:29 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Ishe Chinyoka) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 03:38:29 +0200 Subject: Voiceover not reading some tables on web pages Message-ID: <7A6FFBF7-9A8C-404E-91D3-88F4A3CE12F1@econetmail.com> Hi, I am always running into this problem on some, but not all, web pages. Voiceover will be speaking all other elements but when I get to a table, it may read table headers or the first row well. However, it will all of a sudden be non-responsive deep inside the table and speech will be lost. i end up solving this temporarily by stopping interacting with the web page altogether for speech to come back. I use the DOM ordering of elements, but even if I switch to Group ordering, I encounter this problem. One of the pages I ran into difficulties is the AFB page here: http://www.afb.org/myAFBNewsletter2.asp What could be the problem? your help will be greatly appreciated. Ishe From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Jul 8 15:20:43 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 10:20:43 -0400 Subject: Blue Screen At Start up Message-ID: Dear list, When I restart my computer it goes to a blue screen with a blinking curser in the top left corner. To use my computer I hold down the option key and it starts up and sighted help tells me I am on the Mac HD. I hit enter and I'm ok to go. but strangely my bootable clone does not show up. This all started after I removed a bootcamp partition then tried to put in windows 7. I aborted the process when I realized I had not made a recent back up. At one point the computer started up with the windows disk in the drive and it was some time before I could figure out how to get the disk out! Any ideas how to get my computer to start up normally? Eric Caron From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Fri Jul 8 15:25:19 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 10:25:19 -0400 Subject: Blue Screen At Start up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try looking at the startup disk area of System Preferences. You should be able to select the partition you want the system to boot up on there. Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn joncohn at cox.net On Jul 8, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Eric Caron wrote: > Dear list, > > When I restart my computer it goes to a blue screen with a blinking curser in the top left corner. To use my computer I hold down the option key and it starts up and sighted help tells me I am on the Mac HD. I hit enter and I'm ok to go. but strangely my bootable clone does not show up. > > This all started after I removed a bootcamp partition then tried to put in windows 7. I aborted the process when I realized I had not made a recent back up. At one point the computer started up with the windows disk in the drive and it was some time before I could figure out how to get the disk out! > > Any ideas how to get my computer to start up normally? > > Eric Caron > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Jul 8 18:18:27 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 13:18:27 -0400 Subject: Blue Screen At Start up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: List, I found a answer for this problem. I found in the system preferences a option for start disk. in that area I found I no longer had the Mac HD marked. When I selected this the computer restarted to the HD the next time I restarted. This problem then is solved! Eric Caron On Jul 8, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Eric Caron wrote: > Dear list, > > When I restart my computer it goes to a blue screen with a blinking curser in the top left corner. To use my computer I hold down the option key and it starts up and sighted help tells me I am on the Mac HD. I hit enter and I'm ok to go. but strangely my bootable clone does not show up. > > This all started after I removed a bootcamp partition then tried to put in windows 7. I aborted the process when I realized I had not made a recent back up. At one point the computer started up with the windows disk in the drive and it was some time before I could figure out how to get the disk out! > > Any ideas how to get my computer to start up normally? > > Eric Caron > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Jul 8 18:21:40 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 13:21:40 -0400 Subject: Clone Disk not showing up Message-ID: <922B3B61-64A8-45DA-9BE5-D0B6AEC1CF54@Mac-Access.net> Hello list, Recently I noticed that when I start my computer holding down the option key my bootable back up does not show up. I used Carbon Copy Cloner to make the bootable back up. It used to show up at start up when I held down the option key. Now it does not. This happened following recent messing around with bootcamp. The bootable partition does show up in finder and I can access it. It just doesn't show up when I need it! Any ideas how to get this to show up again? Eric Caron From lavendar at bell.net Fri Jul 8 19:52:55 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:52:55 -0400 Subject: 64-bit questions? In-Reply-To: References: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> <8C2628E7-4FF9-4454-8C9B-5D98B439D375@tznet.com> Message-ID: Ok, probably a dumb question, but I'm running win xp in my fusion, would this matter if I want to run 64 bit with the mac otherwise? Thanks for all this info! I found out I'm not running in 64 bit right now. Caitlyn Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net On Jul 5, 2011, at 4:40 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Hello: > > Hold down the 6 and 4 keys before hitting the power button. I kept them held down until I hear VO talking. I don't think you have to hold them that long but it won't hurt. > > The advantage of running 64Bit mode in my opinion better memory management. When running 32Bit, I noticed my virtual memory folder on the average is roughly 1.07GB and after running VMWare in 64Bit mode 134MB. Even when I don't launch VMWare, 67MB and over all a bit of a speed as well. > > To check the size of your virtual memory folder which is what OSXuses swap files do the following. Command-Shift-G and type in /var/vm and hit return. Then since I like to view in columns, command-3, interact with the VM folder, command-i and you can check the size. > > John > > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > >> So, do you hold down the 6 and 4 keys right away, or not until you hear the start up chimes? Do you keep holding them until vo talks? >> >> What's the advantage, if any, of running in 64 bit mode? >> >> Thanks for the instructions... >> >> Caitlyn >> >> Caitlyn Furness >> lavendar at bell.net >> >> >> >> On Jul 5, 2011, at 12:11 AM, John Gunn wrote: >> >>> Kevin: >>> >>> By default the OS won't boot in to 64 bit mode but turn off the computer, hold down the 6 and 4 keys and when you hear the startup chymes, wait till you hear VO talking. >>> >>> To find out if it worked, go to your Apple menu and VO space on about this Mac. >>> >>> Next VO right till you hear more info and hit VO space. >>> >>> The various catagories will be expaned such as hardware, network which I colapx. >>> >>> When I hear software, I stop interacting, right arrol and use the down arrow and you'll hear if it is enabled or not. >>> >>> I'll paste in the actual line and at the end of the line in your case if says no, then you are still in 32 bit mode. >>> >>> 64-bit Kernel and Extensions: Yes >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: >>> >>>> Greetings, >>>> How do I check if my OS 10.6 is running in 32-bit or 64- bit mode? >>>> I believe, to change to one or the other you hold down the 6 and 4 keys, or 3 and 2 keys, on bootup. >>>> Is this so? >>>> And, if you change to 64-bit mode after doing this how do you get the OS to stay in 64-bit mode when it reboots? >>>> Thanks for any help. >>>> kevin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kevin Barry >>>> If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something.-bit >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From gunn at tznet.com Fri Jul 8 20:54:07 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:54:07 -0500 Subject: 64-bit questions? In-Reply-To: References: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> <8C2628E7-4FF9-4454-8C9B-5D98B439D375@tznet.com> Message-ID: <6073F99C-5B91-45BF-BFC8-F0587CA1DFD1@tznet.com> Hello: If you have Fusion 3.x in my case I noticed a big difference when command-tab between Windows and OSX. On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > Ok, probably a dumb question, but I'm running win xp in my fusion, would this matter if I want to run 64 bit with the mac otherwise? > > Thanks for all this info! > > I found out I'm not running in 64 bit right now. > > Caitlyn > > Caitlyn Furness > lavendar at bell.net > > > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 4:40 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> Hold down the 6 and 4 keys before hitting the power button. I kept them held down until I hear VO talking. I don't think you have to hold them that long but it won't hurt. >> >> The advantage of running 64Bit mode in my opinion better memory management. When running 32Bit, I noticed my virtual memory folder on the average is roughly 1.07GB and after running VMWare in 64Bit mode 134MB. Even when I don't launch VMWare, 67MB and over all a bit of a speed as well. >> >> To check the size of your virtual memory folder which is what OSXuses swap files do the following. Command-Shift-G and type in /var/vm and hit return. Then since I like to view in columns, command-3, interact with the VM folder, command-i and you can check the size. >> >> John >> >> >> On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: >> >>> So, do you hold down the 6 and 4 keys right away, or not until you hear the start up chimes? Do you keep holding them until vo talks? >>> >>> What's the advantage, if any, of running in 64 bit mode? >>> >>> Thanks for the instructions... >>> >>> Caitlyn >>> >>> Caitlyn Furness >>> lavendar at bell.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 12:11 AM, John Gunn wrote: >>> >>>> Kevin: >>>> >>>> By default the OS won't boot in to 64 bit mode but turn off the computer, hold down the 6 and 4 keys and when you hear the startup chymes, wait till you hear VO talking. >>>> >>>> To find out if it worked, go to your Apple menu and VO space on about this Mac. >>>> >>>> Next VO right till you hear more info and hit VO space. >>>> >>>> The various catagories will be expaned such as hardware, network which I colapx. >>>> >>>> When I hear software, I stop interacting, right arrol and use the down arrow and you'll hear if it is enabled or not. >>>> >>>> I'll paste in the actual line and at the end of the line in your case if says no, then you are still in 32 bit mode. >>>> >>>> 64-bit Kernel and Extensions: Yes >>>> >>>> Take care, >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: >>>> >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> How do I check if my OS 10.6 is running in 32-bit or 64- bit mode? >>>>> I believe, to change to one or the other you hold down the 6 and 4 keys, or 3 and 2 keys, on bootup. >>>>> Is this so? >>>>> And, if you change to 64-bit mode after doing this how do you get the OS to stay in 64-bit mode when it reboots? >>>>> Thanks for any help. >>>>> kevin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kevin Barry >>>>> If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something.-bit >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From krbarry at gmail.com Fri Jul 8 23:28:01 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:28:01 -0400 Subject: 64-bit questions? In-Reply-To: References: <4e126a75.0d41340a.5632.ffff8fbe@mx.google.com> <8C2628E7-4FF9-4454-8C9B-5D98B439D375@tznet.com> Message-ID: <4e178466.a319340a.7f49.0645@mx.google.com> As you almost certainly have a 32-bit version of XP, it won't matter. At 02:52 PM 7/8/2011, you wrote: >Ok, probably a dumb question, but I'm running win xp in my fusion, >would this matter if I want to run 64 bit with the mac otherwise? > >Thanks for all this info! > >I found out I'm not running in 64 bit right now. > >Caitlyn > >Caitlyn Furness >lavendar at bell.net > > > >On Jul 5, 2011, at 4:40 PM, John Gunn wrote: > > > Hello: > > > > Hold down the 6 and 4 keys before hitting the power button. I > kept them held down until I hear VO talking. I don't think you > have to hold them that long but it won't hurt. > > > > The advantage of running 64Bit mode in my opinion better memory > management. When running 32Bit, I noticed my virtual memory folder > on the average is roughly 1.07GB and after running VMWare in 64Bit > mode 134MB. Even when I don't launch VMWare, 67MB and over all a > bit of a speed as well. > > > > To check the size of your virtual memory folder which is what > OSXuses swap files do the following. Command-Shift-G and type in > /var/vm and hit return. Then since I like to view in columns, > command-3, interact with the VM folder, command-i and you can check the size. > > > > John > > > > > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > > > >> So, do you hold down the 6 and 4 keys right away, or not until > you hear the start up chimes? Do you keep holding them until vo talks? > >> > >> What's the advantage, if any, of running in 64 bit mode? > >> > >> Thanks for the instructions... > >> > >> Caitlyn > >> > >> Caitlyn Furness > >> lavendar at bell.net > >> > >> > >> > >> On Jul 5, 2011, at 12:11 AM, John Gunn wrote: > >> > >>> Kevin: > >>> > >>> By default the OS won't boot in to 64 bit mode but turn off the > computer, hold down the 6 and 4 keys and when you hear the startup > chymes, wait till you hear VO talking. > >>> > >>> To find out if it worked, go to your Apple menu and VO space on > about this Mac. > >>> > >>> Next VO right till you hear more info and hit VO space. > >>> > >>> The various catagories will be expaned such as hardware, > network which I colapx. > >>> > >>> When I hear software, I stop interacting, right arrol and use > the down arrow and you'll hear if it is enabled or not. > >>> > >>> I'll paste in the actual line and at the end of the line in > your case if says no, then you are still in 32 bit mode. > >>> > >>> 64-bit Kernel and Extensions: Yes > >>> > >>> Take care, > >>> > >>> John > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > >>> > >>>> Greetings, > >>>> How do I check if my OS 10.6 is running in 32-bit or 64- bit mode? > >>>> I believe, to change to one or the other you hold down the 6 > and 4 keys, or 3 and 2 keys, on bootup. > >>>> Is this so? > >>>> And, if you change to 64-bit mode after doing this how do you > get the OS to stay in 64-bit mode when it reboots? > >>>> Thanks for any help. > >>>> kevin > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Kevin Barry > >>>> If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked > something.-bit > >>>> > >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >>>> > >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >>>> > >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >>>> > >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >>> > >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >>> > >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > >>> > >>> > >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >>> > >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: > >>> > >>> > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: > >> > >> > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Jul 10 05:35:04 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:35:04 +0100 Subject: blank documents in pages Message-ID: <4e192c1d.6006d80a.3061.23f1@mx.google.com> has anyone noticed this problem when using pages to create documents. when first opening a document in pages after navigating past the templates with tab and choosing to open a recent document, when my document opens, voiceover appears to treat it like a blank document when i use the arrow keys to navigate it and even using voiceover keys with the arrow keys doesn't appear to work so i have to temporarily shutdown voiceover with command f5, turn voiceover on again and then i can see my document. i thought it might be something to do with the length of my document only this happens even with a short document and i think it only happens when i first enter pages. when i load a saved document in pages it says something like "pages ready" and this is when i appear to have to disable and then enable voiceover again to be able to read my documents. From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sun Jul 10 08:41:54 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:41:54 +0200 Subject: blank documents in pages In-Reply-To: <4e192c1d.6006d80a.3061.23f1@mx.google.com> References: <4e192c1d.6006d80a.3061.23f1@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <0AFAB0D3-F1C2-4CD8-A3CE-CBDF1871D9CB@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Michael, I've never had this problem and I've opened lots of existing documents in Pages. However, I always start from the document itself, not from Pages. So, I navigate to the document and press Cmd-O if it's a Pages document, or VO-Shift-m and navigate down to Open With and select Pages if it's a Word document. Cheers, Anne On Jul 10, 2011, at 6:35 AM, michael weaver wrote: > has anyone noticed this problem when using pages to create documents. > when first opening a document in pages after navigating past the templates with tab and choosing to open a recent document, when my document opens, voiceover appears to treat it like a blank document when i use the arrow keys to navigate it and even using voiceover keys with the arrow keys doesn't appear to work so i have to temporarily shutdown voiceover with command f5, turn voiceover on again and then i can see my document. > i thought it might be something to do with the length of my document only this happens even with a short document and i think it only happens when i first enter pages. > when i load a saved document in pages it says something like "pages ready" and this is when i appear to have to disable and then enable voiceover again to be able to read my documents. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Jul 10 13:42:45 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:42:45 +0100 Subject: organising downloads automatically Message-ID: <8150EB81-CD48-4CB2-9795-E5D0EFCF60AA@computing.dcu.ie> Afternoon all, Ok I've been playing with Automator etc with a view to organising my downloads. I have things set up now such that files of various types (zips, Audible books etc) go into their own designated folders. However I'd like to take this a step further. I'd like, for example, to ensure that all zips from, say, www.bookshare.org go into the zips/bookshare folder. Anyone any thoughts on this might be achieved? Is there a way, using applescript, to detect the site from whence a download comes? D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moriond at mac.com Sun Jul 10 22:13:38 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:13:38 -1000 Subject: Mac Access Dot Net;New Article In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A40B567-05D2-45F1-800D-702E3776C5F0@mac.com> Hi Lynne, Thanks very much for this nice article on system backups. There's a lot of interest in this subject because of preparations for the pending arrival of Lion, so this is very timely, and helpfully provides direct links to the sources for two software options of SuperDuper! and Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC). I also really wasn't aware of the "asr" (Apple Software Restore) command that could be performed in Terminal. One thing I would amend is the description of SuperDuper! and CCC as "freeware" (as in: "Super Duper! is freeware, although it does have the option of paying for additional functionality such as scheduled backups.") A more accurate statement is that the free trial download of SuperDuper! provides full support for whole disk cloning, and does not expire, but that unlocking the many other features of the software, such as scheduled backups, requires purchase of the full license. Similarly, CCC is shareware, but is probably more accurately described as "donationware": you're free to download and use it, but they suggest that if you find this useful you make a contribution to support its development. Here's the statement that appeared on the older version of their web page (http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html active through 2009): "CCC is considered donation-ware (uncrippled shareware). I worked hard developing CCC and its methodology and documenting it on the internet for the rest of the Mac OS X community. If you find CCC indispensable, please consider making a donation. Please note that if you are using CCC for an educational institution, you should NOT donate to Bombich Software. My heart is in Education and all software that I write shall always be free to Education." The present web page simply states: "Thanks for using Carbon Copy Cloner! For the last 8 years I've worked hard to continuously improve CCC ? adding new features, improving performance, and making it the easiest to use and most reliable backup and cloning solution for the Mac. Like other shareware developers, I depend on your donations to make CCC development sustainable. Unlike other shareware developers, though, I make the complete feature set of CCC available to you for free so it can genuinely establish your trust. Now that you have come to rely upon and trust CCC, please consider supporting its maintenance with a donation to Bombich Software. You know the feeling of confidence that you have when you have a clone of your digital life, now experience the warm fuzzies of supporting an independent software developer." These excerpts are just for background information purposes to clarify my statements, and I don't think you should add any of this to your article. Lynne, a while ago you asked whether CCC had features that were lacking in SuperDuper!. I'll just state that the main reason that I generally use CCC is it is consistently faster to make a full clone -- by around 15 per cent savings in time, based on the few times I did a comparison for Snow Leopard. YMMV. HTH and thanks again for this informative article. Cheers, Esther On Jul 7, 2011, at 05:23, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I just posted a new article to our website which deals with the subject of system backups. This is only the first version and undoubtedly I'll do better with it in future. But if you'd be interested in reading my ramblings, please (don't laugh too hard); point your web browser either to the Mac Access Doit Net blog which lives at or visit our main website at then navigate to the Software Corner and then look for System backup. Otherwise, here is a direct URL > . > > This is my very first effort and already reading this I'm dying of embarrassment. I'm starting to wish I hadn't done it. :'-) > > Lynne > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 10 22:39:09 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:39:09 +0100 Subject: Mac Access Dot Net;New Article In-Reply-To: <8A40B567-05D2-45F1-800D-702E3776C5F0@mac.com> References: <8A40B567-05D2-45F1-800D-702E3776C5F0@mac.com> Message-ID: <12DD3A29-83CC-417E-8746-FDECA5DB29A8@mac-access.net> Hello Esther First of all I would like to thank you for your feedback and generous comment. I absolutely and totally appreciate this kind of constructive comment which, I would term, "Constructive Criticism". I have absolutely no problem with your comment and yes; on reflection perhaps freeware wasn't the best descriptive term. I will revamp that a little as I would like the article to be as concise yet accurate as possible. Gordon has been badgering me for some time to have a go at writing something like that as part of my learning process. So he helped me with the research of parts of that article. The ASR is actually recommended procedure by at least 1 of Apple's development team members and it does seem to work. I don't for a moment claim to be unusually knowledgeable on these matters; it's jut something that I've been interested in of late. Once again thanks very much for your input. It is appreciated very much and very genuinely. Lynne On 10 Jul 2011, at 22:13, Esther wrote: Hi Lynne, Thanks very much for this nice article on system backups. There's a lot of interest in this subject because of preparations for the pending arrival of Lion, so this is very timely, and helpfully provides direct links to the sources for two software options of SuperDuper! and Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC). I also really wasn't aware of the "asr" (Apple Software Restore) command that could be performed in Terminal. One thing I would amend is the description of SuperDuper! and CCC as "freeware" (as in: "Super Duper! is freeware, although it does have the option of paying for additional functionality such as scheduled backups.") A more accurate statement is that the free trial download of SuperDuper! provides full support for whole disk cloning, and does not expire, but that unlocking the many other features of the software, such as scheduled backups, requires purchase of the full license. Similarly, CCC is shareware, but is probably more accurately described as "donationware": you're free to download and use it, but they suggest that if you find this useful you make a contribution to support its development. Here's the statement that appeared on the older version of their web page (http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html active through 2009): "CCC is considered donation-ware (uncrippled shareware). I worked hard developing CCC and its methodology and documenting it on the internet for the rest of the Mac OS X community. If you find CCC indispensable, please consider making a donation. Please note that if you are using CCC for an educational institution, you should NOT donate to Bombich Software. My heart is in Education and all software that I write shall always be free to Education." The present web page simply states: "Thanks for using Carbon Copy Cloner! For the last 8 years I've worked hard to continuously improve CCC ? adding new features, improving performance, and making it the easiest to use and most reliable backup and cloning solution for the Mac. Like other shareware developers, I depend on your donations to make CCC development sustainable. Unlike other shareware developers, though, I make the complete feature set of CCC available to you for free so it can genuinely establish your trust. Now that you have come to rely upon and trust CCC, please consider supporting its maintenance with a donation to Bombich Software. You know the feeling of confidence that you have when you have a clone of your digital life, now experience the warm fuzzies of supporting an independent software developer." These excerpts are just for background information purposes to clarify my statements, and I don't think you should add any of this to your article. Lynne, a while ago you asked whether CCC had features that were lacking in SuperDuper!. I'll just state that the main reason that I generally use CCC is it is consistently faster to make a full clone -- by around 15 per cent savings in time, based on the few times I did a comparison for Snow Leopard. YMMV. From skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com Sun Jul 10 22:40:32 2011 From: skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com (Kliph&Sharrie) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:40:32 -0500 Subject: mac restore? In-Reply-To: <8A40B567-05D2-45F1-800D-702E3776C5F0@mac.com> References: <8A40B567-05D2-45F1-800D-702E3776C5F0@mac.com> Message-ID: <22360A36-25C6-407F-B0BD-A5720817DC52@gmail.com> So is there a way to restore your mac to a earlier date without using time machine or any other back up soft ware? Or is this the only way one can accomplish this. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 10 23:22:09 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:22:09 +0100 Subject: mac restore? In-Reply-To: <22360A36-25C6-407F-B0BD-A5720817DC52@gmail.com> References: <8A40B567-05D2-45F1-800D-702E3776C5F0@mac.com> <22360A36-25C6-407F-B0BD-A5720817DC52@gmail.com> Message-ID: There used to be a programme called "Drive Vaccene" which did this sort of thing; but I'm not sure whether Horizon Data Systems are still developing the Mac version. Gordon seems to think not. Lynne On 10 Jul 2011, at 22:40, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: So is there a way to restore your mac to a earlier date without using time machine or any other back up soft ware? Or is this the only way one can accomplish this. From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 10 23:24:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:24:31 +0100 Subject: System Backup Article Updated Message-ID: <66172022-9A55-41B0-8CFB-EDEB518C8F4B@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I have just posted an update to my article which, I hope, clarifies a couple of things and addresses Esther's well taken points. The article may be found either by following the links on the main Mac Access website, or by visiting my page directly at Lynne From moriond at mac.com Sun Jul 10 23:24:31 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:24:31 -1000 Subject: Mac Access Dot Net;New Article In-Reply-To: <12DD3A29-83CC-417E-8746-FDECA5DB29A8@mac-access.net> References: <8A40B567-05D2-45F1-800D-702E3776C5F0@mac.com> <12DD3A29-83CC-417E-8746-FDECA5DB29A8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <601C8BD2-F0FC-4568-A0EE-2290EDDEAEB0@mac.com> Hi Lynne, I agree that you want to keep the article's format concise, and that for many users the idea that they can make a bootable clone of their hard drive for free is going to be important. Maybe you can use that thought as a lead-in statement, and then give the information about the SuperDuper! trial download (does not expire and cloning function can be used for free) and the CCC donation-ware. The other question that seems to come up is "which is more accessible"? And the (ungrammatical) answer is "They both are" -- or more precisely, all three ways that you outlined (SuperDuper!, CCC, and the command line "asr" instruction from Terminal) are completely accessible. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 10, 2011, at 11:39, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Esther > > First of all I would like to thank you for your feedback and generous comment. I absolutely and totally appreciate this kind of constructive comment which, I would term, "Constructive Criticism". I have absolutely no problem with your comment and yes; on reflection perhaps freeware wasn't the best descriptive term. I will revamp that a little as I would like the article to be as concise yet accurate as possible. > > Gordon has been badgering me for some time to have a go at writing something like that as part of my learning process. So he helped me with the research of parts of that article. The ASR is actually recommended procedure by at least 1 of Apple's development team members and it does seem to work. > > I don't for a moment claim to be unusually knowledgeable on these matters; it's jut something that I've been interested in of late. > > Once again thanks very much for your input. It is appreciated very much and very genuinely. > > Lynne > > On 10 Jul 2011, at 22:13, Esther wrote: > > Hi Lynne, > > Thanks very much for this nice article on system backups. There's a lot of interest in this subject because of preparations for the pending arrival of Lion, so this is very timely, and helpfully provides direct links to the sources for two software options of SuperDuper! and Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC). I also really wasn't aware of the "asr" (Apple Software Restore) command that could be performed in Terminal. > > One thing I would amend is the description of SuperDuper! and CCC as "freeware" (as in: "Super Duper! is freeware, although it does have the option of paying for additional functionality such as scheduled backups.") From moriond at mac.com Sun Jul 10 23:38:12 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:38:12 -1000 Subject: System Backup Article Updated In-Reply-To: <66172022-9A55-41B0-8CFB-EDEB518C8F4B@mac-access.net> References: <66172022-9A55-41B0-8CFB-EDEB518C8F4B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0534505E-728B-40D4-ABB9-3223A49AB1DB@mac.com> Hello Lynne, Nice One! Would you mind if I linked to the updated System Backup article in a post on another list? Someone raised the question about whether clones could be made through the native Apple utilities, and was told to go off and research asr. Your article fits in very well with this discussion. (I told you it was timely since people have been discussing ways to prepare for Lion and cloning backup strategies.) I think this is a very good article, but feel free to say if you would like it kept just on this list. Cheers, Esther On Jul 10, 2011, at 12:24, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I have just posted an update to my article which, I hope, clarifies a couple of things and addresses Esther's well taken points. > > The article may be found either by following the links on the main Mac Access website, or by visiting my page directly at > > Lynne > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jul 11 00:00:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:00:57 +0100 Subject: System Backup Article Updated In-Reply-To: <0534505E-728B-40D4-ABB9-3223A49AB1DB@mac.com> References: <66172022-9A55-41B0-8CFB-EDEB518C8F4B@mac-access.net> <0534505E-728B-40D4-ABB9-3223A49AB1DB@mac.com> Message-ID: <893B95E1-F214-427C-8BD3-C95AF90ECA33@mac-access.net> Hello Esther No, not at all, go ahead. Lynne On 10 Jul 2011, at 23:38, Esther wrote: Hello Lynne, Nice One! Would you mind if I linked to the updated System Backup article in a post on another list? Someone raised the question about whether clones could be made through the native Apple utilities, and was told to go off and research asr. Your article fits in very well with this discussion. (I told you it was timely since people have been discussing ways to prepare for Lion and cloning backup strategies.) I think this is a very good article, but feel free to say if you would like it kept just on this list. Cheers, Esther On Jul 10, 2011, at 12:24, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I have just posted an update to my article which, I hope, clarifies a couple of things and addresses Esther's well taken points. > > The article may be found either by following the links on the main Mac Access website, or by visiting my page directly at > > Lynne > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moriond at mac.com Mon Jul 11 03:18:19 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:18:19 -1000 Subject: Two iOS Network apps that are currently free Message-ID: <5BCCE6BF-A821-4BD6-9922-7BFBE202F038@mac.com> Hi All, There are quite a few good accessible iPhone apps for people who do sys admin work, or simply like to check up on the more technical aspects of their network environment from iOS devices. "iNet - Network scanner" by Banana Glue has been free since mid June. iNet will scan your connected (WiFi) network, and show you devices (e.g., computers, iPhones, routers) connected to your network, along with their names, IP addresses, and vendor name. It will also show which of Apple's Bonjour services, if any, are running on your network. And it will port scan your devices (for those interested in network security). I've had the "Pro" version of this app for 2 years. (It now costs $5.99, since they've constantly added features, but was about $2 when I picked it up.) AppAdvice published a "Network Diagnostic Apps" App Guide a few days ago, and the "iNet Pro - Network Scanner" version was deemed an "Essential App". It's nice to know that the best is accessible. The only button that is unlabeled is the "About/Info" button, which seems to be a commonly unlabeled button, and identifies the manufacturer/points to the web page with help information. The free iNet app has no ads. iNet Pro does not do traceroute, although that's listed as one of the upcoming features. So if you want to check how you are connecting to a site, and whether any of the intermediate hops are slowing down your connection, you need to use another app. One of the apps that went free today (for a limited time) is Trace Route (IP). I haven't played with this for very long, but it's accessible and seems to perform well. (Just as with iNet, there is one unlabeled button for Info in the top right corner of the main screen. This takes you to the "Using TraceRoute" information screen with instructions on how the app works.). You get information about each of the "hops" in the route, along with IP address and times and the per centage packet loss, if any. Double tapping the listed items gives you a screen with slightly more detailed information, and you can also double tap the hostname and IP address on the screen for that hop for more information, if this is available. You can also mail yourself the results of the main traceroute, if you want to keep a record. Both of these apps are designed for the iPhone, so you have to double tap the button in the bottom right corner of the screen (in Portrait mode) on an iPad to "switch to full screen mode". Both are available internationally. App Store links: ? "iNet - Network scanner" (free since mid-June, was $0.99) by BananaGlue GmbH http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/inet-network-scanner/id340793353?mt=8 ? "Trace Route (IP)" (free for a limited time, was $1.99) by Nutec Network Tools, LLC http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/trace-route-ip/id405574143?mt=8 And here is the link to AppAdvice guide on "Network Diagnostic Apps": http://appadvice.com/appguides/show/network-diagnostics HTH. Cheers, Esther From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Jul 11 04:04:58 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:04:58 -0500 Subject: Two iOS Network apps that are currently free In-Reply-To: <5BCCE6BF-A821-4BD6-9922-7BFBE202F038@mac.com> References: <5BCCE6BF-A821-4BD6-9922-7BFBE202F038@mac.com> Message-ID: <64352507-34CC-4653-B744-C92161E6FBBF@softcon.com> Thank you for those. I've of course grabbed both of them. I'd been hunting for one like the first one listed, we had a hijacker earlier on our network, which normlly I'd not mind, but when he started sucking down all of our bandwidth, I had to lock him out, but he kept creeping back in. This app would have been a great tool to tell if/ when he was connected, and give me the info I needed to boot him every time. :) The traceroute should come in handy too, it's one of those tools you don't think you need, until you need it. :) Thanks again, excellent stuff here. From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Mon Jul 11 11:54:14 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:54:14 +1000 Subject: ITunes adding to mail list Message-ID: Hi All. I have 2 questions. 1. Good text based tutorial for Itunes. If none exist, then a Pod. 2. I am trying to select multiple songs to add to a playlist. I am selecting every second song out of about 50. I use vo-space to check the check item next to the song I want. Then I use vo-shift-m to open the context menu. Go down to add playlist and select the playlist. Only the song that is highlighted is added. If I go through the file menu and select new play list selected. This does the same. So how do you do it? Sean From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Mon Jul 11 13:05:35 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:05:35 +0100 Subject: ITunes adding to mail list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F5B5226-F3F1-40FE-96E2-4EE6DC82AA64@virginmedia.com> Hi Sean! For your playlist! Go to the first track you want to add! If your mouse cursor is following your vo cursor OK, if not use vo+command+f5 to take the mouse cursor there! Now turn off cursor tracking with vo+shift+f3 then [ I like to do it this way] lock the vo keys with vo+semi colon! Now using the down arrow key just scroll down the list and at each track you wish to add just press command+space! Oh yeah do not forget to command+space on that first track! When you've gone through the whole list and you want to find out what you've selected just press f6 and that will tell you! If you have selected something you did not want just arrow to it and command+space on it again! So now you've got all the tracks you want you can either copy or add to playlist! Next do not forget to unlock your vo keys with the same command as you used to lock them and put cursor tracking back on with the same command as you used to turn it off! hth Colin PS. If you go to open the menu vo+shift+m when your vo cursor' is locked you just need to press shift+m! In that menu you'll find a add to playlist menu, and you can pick which one to put them in! On 11 Jul 2011, at 11:54, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi All. > > I have 2 questions. > > 1. Good text based tutorial for Itunes. If none exist, then a Pod. > > 2. I am trying to select multiple songs to add to a playlist. I am selecting every second song out of about 50. I use vo-space to check the check item next to the song I want. Then I use vo-shift-m to open the context menu. Go down to add playlist and select the playlist. Only the song that is highlighted is added. If I go through the file menu and select new play list selected. This does the same. So how do you do it? > > Sean > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jul 11 17:41:45 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:41:45 -0700 Subject: ITunes adding to mail list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0829379B-61DA-4952-A800-7BBAF171C988@gmail.com> Ok. turn curser tracking off and then lock yoru keys. Now jut interact and hit cmd space in theones you want to select. the check boxes actually play the pieces. See my podcast on the updaed itune which was done about 6 months ago. http://marrie.podbean.com. Take care. On Jul 11, 2011, at 3:54 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi All. > > I have 2 questions. > > 1. Good text based tutorial for Itunes. If none exist, then a Pod. > > 2. I am trying to select multiple songs to add to a playlist. I am selecting every second song out of about 50. I use vo-space to check the check item next to the song I want. Then I use vo-shift-m to open the context menu. Go down to add playlist and select the playlist. Only the song that is highlighted is added. If I go through the file menu and select new play list selected. This does the same. So how do you do it? > > Sean > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com Tue Jul 12 04:53:26 2011 From: Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com (Frank Ventura) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:53:26 -0400 Subject: Graphing calculator software for the Mac Message-ID: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B2C37@mail.mail.breezes.local> Hello all, can anyone recommend a graphing calculator software packadge that runs under snow leopard? I would prefer something that works either with Zoom or VO? Thanks Frank From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Mon Jul 11 11:54:14 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:54:14 +1000 Subject: ITunes adding to mail list Message-ID: Hi All. I have 2 questions. 1. Good text based tutorial for Itunes. If none exist, then a Pod. 2. I am trying to select multiple songs to add to a playlist. I am selecting every second song out of about 50. I use vo-space to check the check item next to the song I want. Then I use vo-shift-m to open the context menu. Go down to add playlist and select the playlist. Only the song that is highlighted is added. If I go through the file menu and select new play list selected. This does the same. So how do you do it? Sean From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jul 12 05:04:10 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:04:10 +1000 Subject: Graphing calculator software for the Mac In-Reply-To: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B2C37@mail.mail.breezes.local> References: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B2C37@mail.mail.breezes.local> Message-ID: <1300E949-1C73-4D4C-80FD-6D1A1BDC0AA8@internode.on.net> Hi! If its simple calculations you want then have you tried typing them into Spotlight? For example, hold down command and press space, now type in 1*2 and wait a second, spotlight launches calculator and sum and result are read. On 12/07/2011, at 1:53 PM, Frank Ventura wrote: > Hello all, can anyone recommend a graphing calculator software packadge > that runs under snow leopard? I would prefer something that works either > with Zoom or VO? > Thanks > Frank > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 12 07:25:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:25:32 +0100 Subject: ITunes adding to mail list In-Reply-To: <2F5B5226-F3F1-40FE-96E2-4EE6DC82AA64@virginmedia.com> References: <2F5B5226-F3F1-40FE-96E2-4EE6DC82AA64@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: hello Wow! That seems a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut! :) Maybe it's the best way; I'm not entirely sure but it isn't the way I've seen it done. Lynne On 11 Jul 2011, at 13:05, Red.Falcon wrote: ? If your mouse cursor is following your vo cursor OK, if not use vo+command+f5 to take the mouse cursor there! From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 12 07:35:41 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:35:41 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility Message-ID: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I just read something that is causing us to wonder whether the just released update to iWeb and other iLife '11 components introduce accessibility with VoiceOver. If so, it will solve one major problem for us; so I'm downloading it now to find out. However, does anybody happen to know whether Adobe DreamWeaver CS5.5 Mac is accessible? We really really need a usable HTML editor which does more than Taco HTML edit can do easily. And DreamWeaver is that programme; but only if it's accessible. I don't much fancy shelling out the almost ?450 GBP price if it's not totally useable or if there is an alternative. Lynne From bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com Tue Jul 12 07:51:35 2011 From: bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com (Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:51:35 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility In-Reply-To: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> References: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > We really really need a usable HTML editor which does more than Taco HTML edit can do > easily. When you say "more", what sort of additional functionality are you looking for? -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 12 08:01:07 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:01:07 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Benjamin Firstly I need to say that the hopes for iWeb have been dashed again. It remains just as inaccessible as ever. On 12 Jul 2011, at 07:51, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: ? When you say "more", what sort of additional functionality are you looking for? We're looking for something which will allow you to easily have code entered as you work. Gordon currently does all of his coding by hand; but it's tedious at times and we now have a need for more than just basic HTML. DreamWeaver seems to be the closest thing to what we want; and from my perspective as a visual user it's a total breeze to use. But we haven't seen the Mac version and we don't want to shell out all that money only to find that, like Acrobat Professional, it isn't useable with Voiceover. Taco doesn't exactly make it easy to do most things. Or at least, we have never found it so; but it is entirely possible that we just haven't discovered its secrets yet. Lynne -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com Tue Jul 12 10:02:40 2011 From: bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com (Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:02:40 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > ? When you say "more", what sort of additional functionality are you looking for? > > We're looking for something which will allow you to easily have code entered as you work. Gordon currently does all of his coding by hand; but it's tedious at times and we now have a need for more than just basic HTML. Can you be a bit more precise. I'm a web developer, but I'm not sure what "more than just basic HTML" means to you. For example, are you talking about sophisticated skinning of the site, or involved HTML features like audio, or about taking user input in a form and producing an email or storing it in a database, or what? Or are you just saying that Taco HTML makes entering basic HTML as used for documents (paragraphs, emphasis, headings) too hard? -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jul 12 11:02:19 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:02:19 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0E7A07C4-4251-404B-9439-019CD5E1DA09@blueyonder.co.uk> Lynne, iWeb is now dead in the water. Apple have no plans to add any new features as MobileMe will be closing next summer. You can't even get iWeb in the app store. Adobe Dreamweaver for the Mac is not accessible. Did you try the 30 day trail for Dreamweaver? Maybe instead of having Dreamweaver to edit individual pages, why not consider a DMS solution? Chris On 12 Jul 2011, at 10:02, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > wrote: >> ? When you say "more", what sort of additional functionality are you looking for? >> >> We're looking for something which will allow you to easily have code entered as you work. Gordon currently does all of his coding by hand; but it's tedious at times and we now have a need for more than just basic HTML. > > Can you be a bit more precise. I'm a web developer, but I'm not sure > what "more than just basic HTML" means to you. For example, are you > talking about sophisticated skinning of the site, or involved HTML > features like audio, or about taking user input in a form and > producing an email or storing it in a database, or what? Or are you > just saying that Taco HTML makes entering basic HTML as used for > documents (paragraphs, emphasis, headings) too hard? > > -- > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jul 12 11:07:13 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:07:13 +0100 Subject: Graphing calculator software for the Mac In-Reply-To: <1300E949-1C73-4D4C-80FD-6D1A1BDC0AA8@internode.on.net> References: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B2C37@mail.mail.breezes.local> <1300E949-1C73-4D4C-80FD-6D1A1BDC0AA8@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <90A3A4BD-9AB8-4739-BA9F-177316CC76E2@blueyonder.co.uk> What about the grapher application within the utilities folder? On 12 Jul 2011, at 05:04, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > If its simple calculations you want then have you tried typing them into Spotlight? > > For example, hold down command and press space, now type in 1*2 and wait a second, spotlight launches calculator and sum and result are read. > > > On 12/07/2011, at 1:53 PM, Frank Ventura wrote: > >> Hello all, can anyone recommend a graphing calculator software packadge >> that runs under snow leopard? I would prefer something that works either >> with Zoom or VO? >> Thanks >> Frank >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Jul 12 11:13:25 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:13:25 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility In-Reply-To: <0E7A07C4-4251-404B-9439-019CD5E1DA09@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> <0E7A07C4-4251-404B-9439-019CD5E1DA09@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, Web editing has evolved now to a point where, even though raw HTML can be used, you are usually adding pages within a framework. Personally, I still edit HTML, CSS, PHP and Javascript by hand, as (from a blind perspective and indeed from a sighted one) you have infinitely more control. Dreamweaver is nice, and compared to some HTML wysiwyg editors, doesn't produce as much bloated and non-standards-compliant rubbish that others do. So in all honesty it depends on what you are trying to do. Personally, I tend to operate from within CMS-style frameworks like Drupal (http://drupal.org) which gives me the functionality I need through core or third-party add-ons. Sighted users of my systems can use editors like FCK-Editor (which can be aded to drupal forms) whereas I can use raw HTML. Sorry this may be rambling, but hth. D?nal On 12 Jul 2011, at 11:02, Chris Moore wrote: > Lynne, > > iWeb is now dead in the water. Apple have no plans to add any new features as MobileMe will be closing next summer. You can't even get iWeb in the app store. Adobe Dreamweaver for the Mac is not accessible. Did you try the 30 day trail for Dreamweaver? > > Maybe instead of having Dreamweaver to edit individual pages, why not consider a DMS solution? > > Chris > On 12 Jul 2011, at 10:02, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith >> wrote: >>> ? When you say "more", what sort of additional functionality are you looking for? >>> >>> We're looking for something which will allow you to easily have code entered as you work. Gordon currently does all of his coding by hand; but it's tedious at times and we now have a need for more than just basic HTML. >> >> Can you be a bit more precise. I'm a web developer, but I'm not sure >> what "more than just basic HTML" means to you. For example, are you >> talking about sophisticated skinning of the site, or involved HTML >> features like audio, or about taking user input in a form and >> producing an email or storing it in a database, or what? Or are you >> just saying that Taco HTML makes entering basic HTML as used for >> documents (paragraphs, emphasis, headings) too hard? >> >> -- >> Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jul 12 11:24:20 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:24:20 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> <0E7A07C4-4251-404B-9439-019CD5E1DA09@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <96F75953-4D34-497B-B8D4-A994AABCC9CB@blueyonder.co.uk> Lynne, I meant to say, did you try the 30 day trial on the Windows platform. Drupal is something you could very much look at, I have not used it personally, but have heard some pretty good things about it. I use Stellant and Documentum, which are way too big for your needs. I may take a look at Drupal myself when I get the time out of interest when I get the time for smaller projects. BBEdit is a pretty good HTML editor for the Mac, it used to come with Dreamweaver for the Mac as standard, but can also be bought separately. Chris On 12 Jul 2011, at 11:13, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Drupal From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Tue Jul 12 11:28:42 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:28:42 +0100 Subject: ITunes adding to mail list In-Reply-To: References: <2F5B5226-F3F1-40FE-96E2-4EE6DC82AA64@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <2C26C0AB-2F73-4725-AA64-AA426C12E19E@virginmedia.com> Hi Lynne! Well please enlighten us! Which way do you know! I use that method but other ways are always welcome and other people might prefer the way you suggest! :] Colin PS Hammers are good for coconuts! On 12 Jul 2011, at 07:25, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > hello > > Wow! That seems a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut! :) > > Maybe it's the best way; I'm not entirely sure but it isn't the way I've seen it done. > > Lynne > > On 11 Jul 2011, at 13:05, Red.Falcon wrote: > > ? If your mouse cursor is following your vo cursor OK, if not use vo+command+f5 to take the mouse cursor there! > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 12 12:10:11 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:10:11 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Benjamin On 12 Jul 2011, at 10:02, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: ? Can you be a bit more precise. I'm a web developer, but I'm not sure what "more than just basic HTML" means to you. For example, are you talking about sophisticated skinning of the site, or involved HTML features like audio, or about taking user input in a form and producing an email or storing it in a database, or what? Or are you just saying that Taco HTML makes entering basic HTML as used for documents (paragraphs, emphasis, headings) too hard? No, the very basic basic stuff like headings, lists, tables, that sort of things are not too difficult. But I'm talking about things like web forms and multiple choice combo boxes, check boxes and radio buttons. Doable, don't get me wrong; but time consuming. A friend of ours sent us some data designed to be used for a contact form; but we haven't been able to get that to work for us yet. I really need to be able to do this kind of work with Gordon independently rather than having to ask others for help. That's why I'm looking at something that will produce clean code that we can work with. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 12 12:50:53 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:50:53 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility In-Reply-To: <0E7A07C4-4251-404B-9439-019CD5E1DA09@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> <0E7A07C4-4251-404B-9439-019CD5E1DA09@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hello Chris I will top post as there are a number of questions and commons to address. Firstly iWeb iMovie and iDVD had a major update released in the last few days. Yes, I know about MobileMe. It is being replaced on 30 June next year by iCloud. I don't think there wil be any web site facilities as their are now, but from what I read on the various places email will continue. I did look at DreamWeaver for MS, but the price is just too high. They want ?400 GBP plus for it at all the retail outlets I've seen. The mac version I tried to try; but it wouldn't download so I gave it up when I saw the price of the full version. Lynne On 12 Jul 2011, at 11:02, Chris Moore wrote: ? iWeb is now dead in the water. Apple have no plans to add any new features as MobileMe will be closing next summer. You can't even get iWeb in the app store. Adobe Dreamweaver for the Mac is not accessible. Did you try the 30 day trail for Dreamweaver? Maybe instead of having Dreamweaver to edit individual pages, why not consider a DMS solution? Chris On 12 Jul 2011, at 10:02, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > wrote: >> ? When you say "more", what sort of additional functionality are you looking for? >> >> We're looking for something which will allow you to easily have code entered as you work. Gordon currently does all of his coding by hand; but it's tedious at times and we now have a need for more than just basic HTML. > > Can you be a bit more precise. I'm a web developer, but I'm not sure > what "more than just basic HTML" means to you. For example, are you > talking about sophisticated skinning of the site, or involved HTML > features like audio, or about taking user input in a form and > producing an email or storing it in a database, or what? Or are you > just saying that Taco HTML makes entering basic HTML as used for > documents (paragraphs, emphasis, headings) too hard? > > -- > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 12 12:56:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:56:31 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> <0E7A07C4-4251-404B-9439-019CD5E1DA09@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hello Donal The problem with all this is that you have to learn the syntax and the code. For basic to intermediate HTML we can get by with hand editing. But the other forms of coding neither of us has any experience and to be honest we simply don't have the time or the circumstances to sit down and learn it all just at the moment. Basically we need to get the job done; and currently we don't have the skills to go as far into it as we'd like. Gordon can handle basic HTML and maybe a bit beyond; such as tables. But the kind of scripting we need is currently not possible for us using hand-coding. Lynne On 12 Jul 2011, at 11:13, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi Lynne, Web editing has evolved now to a point where, even though raw HTML can be used, you are usually adding pages within a framework. Personally, I still edit HTML, CSS, PHP and Javascript by hand, as (from a blind perspective and indeed from a sighted one) you have infinitely more control. Dreamweaver is nice, and compared to some HTML wysiwyg editors, doesn't produce as much bloated and non-standards-compliant rubbish that others do. So in all honesty it depends on what you are trying to do. Personally, I tend to operate from within CMS-style frameworks like Drupal (http://drupal.org) which gives me the functionality I need through core or third-party add-ons. Sighted users of my systems can use editors like FCK-Editor (which can be aded to drupal forms) whereas I can use raw HTML. Sorry this may be rambling, but hth. D?nal On 12 Jul 2011, at 11:02, Chris Moore wrote: > Lynne, > > iWeb is now dead in the water. Apple have no plans to add any new features as MobileMe will be closing next summer. You can't even get iWeb in the app store. Adobe Dreamweaver for the Mac is not accessible. Did you try the 30 day trail for Dreamweaver? > > Maybe instead of having Dreamweaver to edit individual pages, why not consider a DMS solution? > > Chris > On 12 Jul 2011, at 10:02, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith >> wrote: >>> ? When you say "more", what sort of additional functionality are you looking for? >>> >>> We're looking for something which will allow you to easily have code entered as you work. Gordon currently does all of his coding by hand; but it's tedious at times and we now have a need for more than just basic HTML. >> >> Can you be a bit more precise. I'm a web developer, but I'm not sure >> what "more than just basic HTML" means to you. For example, are you >> talking about sophisticated skinning of the site, or involved HTML >> features like audio, or about taking user input in a form and >> producing an email or storing it in a database, or what? Or are you >> just saying that Taco HTML makes entering basic HTML as used for >> documents (paragraphs, emphasis, headings) too hard? >> >> -- >> Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 12 12:58:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:58:12 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility In-Reply-To: <96F75953-4D34-497B-B8D4-A994AABCC9CB@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> <0E7A07C4-4251-404B-9439-019CD5E1DA09@blueyonder.co.uk> <96F75953-4D34-497B-B8D4-A994AABCC9CB@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <380C0B86-866D-4D8B-A895-B2D116FAC628@mac-access.net> Hello Chris Excuse my ignorance; but what is Drupal? Lynne From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Tue Jul 12 13:17:37 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (chinyoka) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:17:37 +0200 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility In-Reply-To: <380C0B86-866D-4D8B-A895-B2D116FAC628@mac-access.net> References: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> <0E7A07C4-4251-404B-9439-019CD5E1DA09@blueyonder.co.uk> <96F75953-4D34-497B-B8D4-A994AABCC9CB@blueyonder.co.uk> <380C0B86-866D-4D8B-A895-B2D116FAC628@mac-access.net> Message-ID: There is a program called Rapidweaver, I heard good things about it. never tried it though. it seems to work with Voiceover well. On 12 Jul,2011, at 1:58 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Chris > > Excuse my ignorance; but what is Drupal? > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 12 13:54:20 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:54:20 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing with Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <0DEE2065-4164-4F93-A2A6-8E8376907AAD@mac-access.net> <0E7A07C4-4251-404B-9439-019CD5E1DA09@blueyonder.co.uk> <96F75953-4D34-497B-B8D4-A994AABCC9CB@blueyonder.co.uk> <380C0B86-866D-4D8B-A895-B2D116FAC628@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <635462BA-A92F-48C1-9A84-CF6229C5EC8D@mac-access.net> Rapid Weaver is inaccessible. We bought it but had to get a refund. Lynne On 12 Jul 2011, at 13:17, chinyoka wrote: There is a program called Rapidweaver, I heard good things about it. never tried it though. it seems to work with Voiceover well. On 12 Jul,2011, at 1:58 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Chris > > Excuse my ignorance; but what is Drupal? > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Jul 12 18:47:49 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:47:49 +0200 Subject: Tables in Pages Message-ID: <347EE3FB-E331-40C2-ACB1-5BF457E89120@anarchie.org.uk> Hello everyone, Maybe other people here already knew about this, but I just discovered today that you can make tables visible in Pages by selecting one and going to the Format menu and down to the Table submenu where you select Convert Table to Text. The contents of the table are then readable with VoiceOver. You still have to copy the table into Numbers to edit it effectively, but if all you want to do is read it, this solves that problem. Cheers, Anne From mfurness at bell.net Tue Jul 12 22:54:02 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:54:02 -0400 Subject: disk utility Message-ID: Running snow leopard, I am trying to make a copy of my Mac onto my external disk. CCC keeps on telling me that the disk is not formated for use with an intel Mac. Reading the instructions from CCC, I can not find the format tab, to choose gpt format.Nor can I find the option tab it speaks about. Any help or suggestions? Mark The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 01:09:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:09:40 -0700 Subject: disk utility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You need to select yoru disk's title under the main disk area where partitions is. then you should be able to find the tabs that it mentions. Take care. On Jul 12, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Mark Furness wrote: > Running snow leopard, I am trying to make a copy of my Mac onto my external disk. > CCC keeps on telling me that the disk is not formated for use with an intel Mac. > > Reading the instructions from CCC, I can not find the format tab, to choose gpt format.Nor can I find the option tab it speaks about. > > Any help or suggestions? > > Mark > The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 13 05:44:52 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:44:52 +0100 Subject: Preparing A Disk for Backup; [Was Disk Utility] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Sarah & Mark Sarah; you missed quite a lot of detail here so i will try and give Mark step-by-step help. 1. From the Finder, press Command+Shift+U to open your Utilities folder. Otherwise, navigate through to "/Applications/Utilities/" then find, and open "Disk Utility.app". 2. You'll probably need to press the "Tab" key once to bring focus on to the list of selected devices. Highlight the device you wish to work with in the table. 3. Press "Tab" and you'll hear the list of available tabs. The default is "First Aid". Move your cursor using the unmodified arrow keys until you hit the "Partition" tab. Then press VoiceOver+Space to select it. 4. Where you hear "Current Partition Scheme" modify that setting to "1 Partition". 5. Move to the "Options" button and activate it. 6. in the list of partition types, make sure you select the "Guide" partition table. That's the only type from which an Intel Mac can boot. Then hit OK, and apply. You should then find it works as you expected. This is only from memory; I'm not actually doing that as I type so it's possible I missed something minor, but essentially the process is correct. But looking for the "Format" tab is misleading because there isn't such a tab. Lynne On 13 Jul 2011, at 01:09, Sarah Alawami wrote: You need to select yoru disk's title under the main disk area where partitions is. then you should be able to find the tabs that it mentions. From moriond at mac.com Wed Jul 13 06:35:09 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:35:09 -1000 Subject: A few more free or iOS apps on sale Message-ID: Hi All, It seems there are a few more iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad apps that might be of some interest, since this is roughly the 3rd anniversary of the App Store. The AppleVis site has been down for several hours, so I can't check/post news there. First, I'll mention that the AppAdvice web site has a number of App Guides and App Lists, which are useful when you wonder whether there's an app for something in a completely new area. One of the lists they recently came out with is "Apps for the Blind and VIsually Impaired". There are probably other apps you might include here, but this is a good list to read through, and a number of the apps listed there are free. http://appadvice.com/applists/show/apps-for-the-visually-impaired The Ariadne GPS App that Rossy posted about (also on the App Advice list) has just had a recent update with some nice fixes. Connection to the App Store and iTunes Store has been a little quirky at times throughout today, but if you have this app on an iPhone or iPad 3G+Wi-Fi, you might check for the update. In addition to the accessible Chess-Wise app in the above App List, Shredder Chess has a free Lite edition that is accessible. The regular version of Shredder Chess for the iPhone, which normally lists for $7.99, has just gone on sale for $1.99 for a limited time. iSpectrum Color Blind Assistant, normally $2.99, just dropped to free. (None of these color identification apps can probably beat using the free VizWiz app on an iPhone or iPod Touch or iPad with a camera, but this is a reasonably good app among the others in the store, and worth checking out.) Here are the links: ? Shredder Chess Lite (free) by Eiko Bleicher, Skizzix.com http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shredder-chess-lite/id343795703?mt=8 ? Shredder Chess ($1.99 for limited time, usually $7.99) by Eiko Bleicher, Skizzix.com http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shredder-chess/id308032437?mt=8 ? iSpectrum Color Blind Assistant (just gone free today, usually $2.99) by Wishbone Apps http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ispectrum-color-blind-assistant/id302957110?mt=8 If any of you need to check version update history or price changes for apps, a good way to do this is to run a Google search for the name of the app and the term "appshopper". The appshopper.com web site keeps separate web pages for each app and tracks the history of version releases and price updates. When I've located the AppShopper web page for an app, I use item chooser menu to look for the "App Activity" or VO-U to look for the "App Activity" heading, and then read the version and price history. There is also a free "AppShopper" app, but it's less reliable at locating the apps. If I find the app I want to track using the "AppShopper" app instead of in the web site, I use a three finger flick up to scroll to the end. "App Activity" is second from the bottom of the screen. Double tap to find the history of pricing and versions. This works for checking the frequency of updates and when expensive GPS navigation apps are likely to go on sale. I first found this because one of the first apps I got for my iPod Touch lost accessibility almost immediately. (It was lucky I downloaded a version that worked before I even got my iPod Touch). It took about a month and a half for them to fix it. Now, when I want to check when new versions are released in the case of accessibility issues, I go to the AppShopper version history. HTH. Cheers, Esther From support at mac-access.net Wed Jul 13 06:55:02 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:55:02 +0100 Subject: Second Archive Page Now Available Message-ID: <09D248A7-5741-493D-B1DA-B270556B8B24@mac-access.net> Hello everybody This is just an experiment at the moment but we've decided to open a second searchable archive of our group. You can now find the most recent messages in this list and, hopefully, all subsequent messages, archived at so you now have the option of either using our own archive at or the one above. This is only an experiment and we'll be monitoring it closely to see how it works out. If, by virtue of the fact that the archive is now available on Google Groups we get problems, we will remove the public archive and just revert to the previous arrangement whereby the primary list archive is the only one. Lynne From support at mac-access.net Wed Jul 13 07:13:17 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:13:17 +0100 Subject: More on our second archive Message-ID: Hello everybody The reason we opted to add a second archive is that you may now subscribe to this list in RSS. Here is the URL: Let's see how it goes, we might replace this if it proves useful with our own RSS service. Comment is welcome, probably better off list, at . But I wanted to let you know it's now on test. Lynne From roger.firman at btinternet.com Wed Jul 13 09:56:23 2011 From: roger.firman at btinternet.com (Roger Firman) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:56:23 +0100 Subject: HTML coding by hand Message-ID: Dear Gordon, In the various messages about HTML coding and items you may need, was a Contact Form one such item? If so, I could let you have one I have written by hand which you will need to edit slightly to fit with how you have such material set up on your own system. If this is something which would be helpful, please let me know along with to where the form can be emailed. Regards, Roger. From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 13 10:16:02 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:16:02 +0100 Subject: HTML coding by hand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41612524-8B05-4143-B308-32267A4E51FE@mac-access.net> Hello This is Lynne, but yes, that would be extremely helpful. But I need to also thank the various others on list who have offered assistance. I want you all to know that it's very much appreciated. If you'd like to send us anything, please feel free to use my own email address, , or use Gordon's if you prefer, . Many thanks indeed. Lynne On 13 Jul 2011, at 09:56, Roger Firman wrote: Dear Gordon, In the various messages about HTML coding and items you may need, was a Contact Form one such item? If so, I could let you have one I have written by hand which you will need to edit slightly to fit with how you have such material set up on your own system. If this is something which would be helpful, please let me know along with to where the form can be emailed. Regards, Roger. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 12:02:11 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:02:11 -0400 Subject: Graphing calculator software for the Mac In-Reply-To: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B2C37@mail.mail.breezes.local> References: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B2C37@mail.mail.breezes.local> Message-ID: My daughter uses Mathmatica from Wolfram for most of her Calculus and physics needs in college. Is there a specific type of function you are looking for? Jonathan Cohn Jonathan C. Cohn joncohn at cox.net On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:53 PM, Frank Ventura wrote: > Hello all, can anyone recommend a graphing calculator software packadge > that runs under snow leopard? I would prefer something that works either > with Zoom or VO? > Thanks > Frank > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 14:28:37 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:28:37 -0400 Subject: A few more free or iOS apps on sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Blio is also available. I haveno idea how accessible it is. I just grabbed it. Here is the link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blio/id409370678?mt=8 Jane On Jul 13, 2011, at 1:35 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi All, > > It seems there are a few more iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad apps that might be of some interest, since this is roughly the 3rd anniversary of the App Store. The AppleVis site has been down for several hours, so I can't check/post news there. > > First, I'll mention that the AppAdvice web site has a number of App Guides and App Lists, which are useful when you wonder whether there's an app for something in a completely new area. One of the lists they recently came out with is "Apps for the Blind and VIsually Impaired". There are probably other apps you might include here, but this is a good list to read through, and a number of the apps listed there are free. > http://appadvice.com/applists/show/apps-for-the-visually-impaired > > The Ariadne GPS App that Rossy posted about (also on the App Advice list) has just had a recent update with some nice fixes. Connection to the App Store and iTunes Store has been a little quirky at times throughout today, but if you have this app on an iPhone or iPad 3G+Wi-Fi, you might check for the update. > > In addition to the accessible Chess-Wise app in the above App List, Shredder Chess has a free Lite edition that is accessible. The regular version of Shredder Chess for the iPhone, which normally lists for $7.99, has just gone on sale for $1.99 for a limited time. iSpectrum Color Blind Assistant, normally $2.99, just dropped to free. (None of these color identification apps can probably beat using the free VizWiz app on an iPhone or iPod Touch or iPad with a camera, but this is a reasonably good app among the others in the store, and worth checking out.) > > Here are the links: > ? Shredder Chess Lite (free) by Eiko Bleicher, Skizzix.com > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shredder-chess-lite/id343795703?mt=8 > > ? Shredder Chess ($1.99 for limited time, usually $7.99) by Eiko Bleicher, Skizzix.com > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shredder-chess/id308032437?mt=8 > > ? iSpectrum Color Blind Assistant (just gone free today, usually $2.99) by Wishbone Apps > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ispectrum-color-blind-assistant/id302957110?mt=8 > > If any of you need to check version update history or price changes for apps, a good way to do this is to run a Google search for the name of the app and the term "appshopper". The appshopper.com web site keeps separate web pages for each app and tracks the history of version releases and price updates. When I've located the AppShopper web page for an app, I use item chooser menu to look for the "App Activity" or VO-U to look for the "App Activity" heading, and then read the version and price history. There is also a free "AppShopper" app, but it's less reliable at locating the apps. If I find the app I want to track using the "AppShopper" app instead of in the web site, I use a three finger flick up to scroll to the end. "App Activity" is second from the bottom of the screen. Double tap to find the history of pricing and versions. > > This works for checking the frequency of updates and when expensive GPS navigation apps are likely to go on sale. I first found this because one of the first apps I got for my iPod Touch lost accessibility almost immediately. (It was lucky I downloaded a version that worked before I even got my iPod Touch). It took about a month and a half for them to fix it. Now, when I want to check when new versions are released in the case of accessibility issues, I go to the AppShopper version history. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tmallalieu at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 16:35:04 2011 From: tmallalieu at gmail.com (Thuy Mallalieu) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:35:04 +0100 Subject: A few more free or iOS apps on sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for this. Do you know how to register for an account in order to download books? Cheers Thuy Sent from my iPhone On 13 Jul 2011, at 14:28, Jane wrote: > Blio is also available. I haveno idea how accessible it is. I just grabbed it. Here is the link: > > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blio/id409370678?mt=8 > > > Jane > > > On Jul 13, 2011, at 1:35 AM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> It seems there are a few more iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad apps that might be of some interest, since this is roughly the 3rd anniversary of the App Store. The AppleVis site has been down for several hours, so I can't check/post news there. >> >> First, I'll mention that the AppAdvice web site has a number of App Guides and App Lists, which are useful when you wonder whether there's an app for something in a completely new area. One of the lists they recently came out with is "Apps for the Blind and VIsually Impaired". There are probably other apps you might include here, but this is a good list to read through, and a number of the apps listed there are free. >> http://appadvice.com/applists/show/apps-for-the-visually-impaired >> >> The Ariadne GPS App that Rossy posted about (also on the App Advice list) has just had a recent update with some nice fixes. Connection to the App Store and iTunes Store has been a little quirky at times throughout today, but if you have this app on an iPhone or iPad 3G+Wi-Fi, you might check for the update. >> >> In addition to the accessible Chess-Wise app in the above App List, Shredder Chess has a free Lite edition that is accessible. The regular version of Shredder Chess for the iPhone, which normally lists for $7.99, has just gone on sale for $1.99 for a limited time. iSpectrum Color Blind Assistant, normally $2.99, just dropped to free. (None of these color identification apps can probably beat using the free VizWiz app on an iPhone or iPod Touch or iPad with a camera, but this is a reasonably good app among the others in the store, and worth checking out.) >> >> Here are the links: >> ? Shredder Chess Lite (free) by Eiko Bleicher, Skizzix.com >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shredder-chess-lite/id343795703?mt=8 >> >> ? Shredder Chess ($1.99 for limited time, usually $7.99) by Eiko Bleicher, Skizzix.com >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shredder-chess/id308032437?mt=8 >> >> ? iSpectrum Color Blind Assistant (just gone free today, usually $2.99) by Wishbone Apps >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ispectrum-color-blind-assistant/id302957110?mt=8 >> >> If any of you need to check version update history or price changes for apps, a good way to do this is to run a Google search for the name of the app and the term "appshopper". The appshopper.com web site keeps separate web pages for each app and tracks the history of version releases and price updates. When I've located the AppShopper web page for an app, I use item chooser menu to look for the "App Activity" or VO-U to look for the "App Activity" heading, and then read the version and price history. There is also a free "AppShopper" app, but it's less reliable at locating the apps. If I find the app I want to track using the "AppShopper" app instead of in the web site, I use a three finger flick up to scroll to the end. "App Activity" is second from the bottom of the screen. Double tap to find the history of pricing and versions. >> >> This works for checking the frequency of updates and when expensive GPS navigation apps are likely to go on sale. I first found this because one of the first apps I got for my iPod Touch lost accessibility almost immediately. (It was lucky I downloaded a version that worked before I even got my iPod Touch). It took about a month and a half for them to fix it. Now, when I want to check when new versions are released in the case of accessibility issues, I go to the AppShopper version history. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mfurness at bell.net Wed Jul 13 16:43:34 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:43:34 -0400 Subject: attention Lynnatte:Re: Preparing A Disk for Backup; [Was Disk Utility] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I tried following your instructions , here is were the problem is. . Press "Tab" and you'll hear the list of available tabs. The default is "First Aid The only tabs are 1. first aid 2. erase 3. raid 4. restore ". Since this step does not work, I can not follow the rest of your instructions. All help will be greatly appreciated Mark! On 2011-07-13, at 12:44 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > . Press "Tab" and you'll hear the list of available tabs. The default is "First Aid". Move your c The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 13 16:47:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:47:40 +0100 Subject: attention Lynnatte:Re: Preparing A Disk for Backup; [Was Disk Utility] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61880E89-40E6-4591-9C65-6F690D5BED78@mac-access.net> If you have multiple partitions there will be a difference. But try moving to the next item or previous item in the table. Essentially though my instructions are correct. Lynne On 13 Jul 2011, at 16:43, Mark Furness wrote: I tried following your instructions , here is were the problem is. . Press "Tab" and you'll hear the list of available tabs. The default is "First Aid The only tabs are 1. first aid 2. erase 3. raid 4. restore ". Since this step does not work, I can not follow the rest of your instructions. All help will be greatly appreciated Mark! On 2011-07-13, at 12:44 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > . Press "Tab" and you'll hear the list of available tabs. The default is "First Aid". Move your c The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 17:16:24 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:16:24 -0400 Subject: attention Lynnatte:Re: Preparing A Disk for Backup; [Was Disk Utility] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7701475E-1B60-4A6C-8F8E-F31D97FC2469@gmail.com> Mark, Just in case you have not gotten this to work... In the list of disks there are at least two entries for each hardware disk. THere is one that should be the hardware vendor and physical size of the disk. This one should also say Collapse. Then under the hardware there is a separate item for each partition named as you called the disk on your system. In order to partition the drive you need the hardware disk selected and not the partition. Best of luck, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn joncohn at cox.net On Jul 13, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Mark Furness wrote: > I tried following your instructions , here is were the problem is. > > . Press "Tab" and you'll hear the list of available tabs. The default is "First Aid > > The only tabs are > 1. first aid > 2. erase > 3. raid > 4. restore > ". > Since this step does not work, I cannot follow the rest of your instructions. > > All help will be greatly appreciated > > Mark! > On 2011-07-13, at 12:44 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> . Press "Tab" and you'll hear the list of available tabs. The default is "First Aid". Move your c > > The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mfurness at bell.net Wed Jul 13 17:44:22 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:44:22 -0400 Subject: attention Lynnatte:Re: Preparing A Disk for Backup; [Was Disk Utility] In-Reply-To: <61880E89-40E6-4591-9C65-6F690D5BED78@mac-access.net> References: <61880E89-40E6-4591-9C65-6F690D5BED78@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thank you for the additional information! My Mac is now cloned and my external disk is bootable. Mark On 2011-07-13, at 11:47 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > If you have multiple partitions there will be a difference. But try moving to the next item or previous item in the table. Essentially though my instructions are correct. > > Lynne > > On 13 Jul 2011, at 16:43, Mark Furness wrote: > > I tried following your instructions , here is were the problem is. > > . Press "Tab" and you'll hear the list of available tabs. The default is "First Aid > > The only tabs are > 1. first aid > 2. erase > 3. raid > 4. restore > ". > Since this step does not work, I can not follow the rest of your instructions. > > All help will be greatly appreciated > > Mark! > On 2011-07-13, at 12:44 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> . Press "Tab" and you'll hear the list of available tabs. The default is "First Aid". Move your c > > The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Wed Jul 13 18:00:31 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:00:31 +0100 Subject: Adium. Message-ID: <36B074E9-37CC-4F53-8CE1-53BD921A0271@googlemail.com> Hi all just tried loading my adium and it is not signing any of my accounts in for some reason although i know there both set up as when i go in to the preforances i do see it. wondering if it is down or something. thanks very much Ian McNamara From juanitatighan at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 18:00:53 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:00:53 -0400 Subject: A few more free or iOS apps on sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://mobile.blioreader.com is the link you want. You create an account there, then log in on your IOS device. They will want billing information, and I saw no option for PayPal, but I could have missed it. Jane On Jul 13, 2011, at 1:35 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi All, > > It seems there are a few more iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad apps that might be of some interest, since this is roughly the 3rd anniversary of the App Store. The AppleVis site has been down for several hours, so I can't check/post news there. > > First, I'll mention that the AppAdvice web site has a number of App Guides and App Lists, which are useful when you wonder whether there's an app for something in a completely new area. One of the lists they recently came out with is "Apps for the Blind and VIsually Impaired". There are probably other apps you might include here, but this is a good list to read through, and a number of the apps listed there are free. > http://appadvice.com/applists/show/apps-for-the-visually-impaired > > The Ariadne GPS App that Rossy posted about (also on the App Advice list) has just had a recent update with some nice fixes. Connection to the App Store and iTunes Store has been a little quirky at times throughout today, but if you have this app on an iPhone or iPad 3G+Wi-Fi, you might check for the update. > > In addition to the accessible Chess-Wise app in the above App List, Shredder Chess has a free Lite edition that is accessible. The regular version of Shredder Chess for the iPhone, which normally lists for $7.99, has just gone on sale for $1.99 for a limited time. iSpectrum Color Blind Assistant, normally $2.99, just dropped to free. (None of these color identification apps can probably beat using the free VizWiz app on an iPhone or iPod Touch or iPad with a camera, but this is a reasonably good app among the others in the store, and worth checking out.) > > Here are the links: > ? Shredder Chess Lite (free) by Eiko Bleicher, Skizzix.com > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shredder-chess-lite/id343795703?mt=8 > > ? Shredder Chess ($1.99 for limited time, usually $7.99) by Eiko Bleicher, Skizzix.com > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shredder-chess/id308032437?mt=8 > > ? iSpectrum Color Blind Assistant (just gone free today, usually $2.99) by Wishbone Apps > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ispectrum-color-blind-assistant/id302957110?mt=8 > > If any of you need to check version update history or price changes for apps, a good way to do this is to run a Google search for the name of the app and the term "appshopper". The appshopper.com web site keeps separate web pages for each app and tracks the history of version releases and price updates. When I've located the AppShopper web page for an app, I use item chooser menu to look for the "App Activity" or VO-U to look for the "App Activity" heading, and then read the version and price history. There is also a free "AppShopper" app, but it's less reliable at locating the apps. If I find the app I want to track using the "AppShopper" app instead of in the web site, I use a three finger flick up to scroll to the end. "App Activity" is second from the bottom of the screen. Double tap to find the history of pricing and versions. > > This works for checking the frequency of updates and when expensive GPS navigation apps are likely to go on sale. I first found this because one of the first apps I got for my iPod Touch lost accessibility almost immediately. (It was lucky I downloaded a version that worked before I even got my iPod Touch). It took about a month and a half for them to fix it. Now, when I want to check when new versions are released in the case of accessibility issues, I go to the AppShopper version history. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 19:17:31 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:17:31 -0700 Subject: Adium. In-Reply-To: <36B074E9-37CC-4F53-8CE1-53BD921A0271@googlemail.com> References: <36B074E9-37CC-4F53-8CE1-53BD921A0271@googlemail.com> Message-ID: No I was able to sign in to al of my accounts. Just try goign to file and connect all accounts and keep trying. Take care On Jul 13, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi all just tried loading my adium and it is not signing any of my accounts in for some reason although i know there both set up as when i go in to the preforances i do see it. > > wondering if it is down or something. > > thanks very much > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 19:18:41 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:18:41 -0700 Subject: Preparing A Disk for Backup; [Was Disk Utility] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Huh? Actually what I did was I just went to format and reformated the thing. no need to go to partitioning anything. I did this on a 2 tb elements drive and it worked flawlesly. On Jul 12, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah & Mark > > Sarah; you missed quite a lot of detail here so i will try and give Mark step-by-step help. > > 1. From the Finder, press Command+Shift+U to open your Utilities folder. Otherwise, navigate through to "/Applications/Utilities/" then find, and open "Disk Utility.app". > 2. You'll probably need to press the "Tab" key once to bring focus on to the list of selected devices. Highlight the device you wish to work with in the table. > 3. Press "Tab" and you'll hear the list of available tabs. The default is "First Aid". Move your cursor using the unmodified arrow keys until you hit the "Partition" tab. Then press VoiceOver+Space to select it. > 4. Where you hear "Current Partition Scheme" modify that setting to "1 Partition". > 5. Move to the "Options" button and activate it. > 6. in the list of partition types, make sure you select the "Guide" partition table. That's the only type from which an Intel Mac can boot. Then hit OK, and apply. > > You should then find it works as you expected. This is only from memory; I'm not actually doing that as I type so it's possible I missed something minor, but essentially the process is correct. But looking for the "Format" tab is misleading because there isn't such a tab. > > Lynne > > On 13 Jul 2011, at 01:09, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > You need to select yoru disk's title under the main disk area where partitions is. then you should be able to find the tabs that it mentions. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 21:16:00 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:16:00 -0700 Subject: pasting the file path in a safari browse dialogue Message-ID: <0B68F964-BCDF-4DE8-9827-7472D825CC15@gmail.com> Hello. When hitting choose file, there is no area to paste the file path of a file in. I'm surprised by this as I don't want to navigate all the way to a file when I have the path on the clipboard. How can I make this easier? I'm uploading about 3 gigs of files to a site and don't want to browse every time. I want to paste the path in like I can in other os's. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From moriond at mac.com Wed Jul 13 21:28:31 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:28:31 -1000 Subject: pasting the file path in a safari browse dialogue In-Reply-To: <0B68F964-BCDF-4DE8-9827-7472D825CC15@gmail.com> References: <0B68F964-BCDF-4DE8-9827-7472D825CC15@gmail.com> Message-ID: <66BB9AD2-EB35-4A75-B785-DAD511EC545C@mac.com> Hi Sarah, The context for your question might be a little clearer if you could give an example of a site that gives such a browse dialogue for Safari. I'll just ask what happens when you press Command-Shift-G (the "Go to Folder" shortcut)? Are you presented with a text dialog box where you can paste in the path to the file(s) you want? Cheers. Esther On Jul 13, 2011, at 10:16, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. When hitting choose file, there is no area to paste the file path of a file in. I'm surprised by this as I don't want to navigate all the way to a file when I have the path on the clipboard. How can I make this easier? I'm uploading about 3 gigs of files to a site and don't want to browse every time. I want to paste the path in like I can in other os's. > > Take care. > > > Sarah Alawami From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 21:45:21 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:45:21 -0700 Subject: pasting the file path in a safari browse dialogue In-Reply-To: <66BB9AD2-EB35-4A75-B785-DAD511EC545C@mac.com> References: <0B68F964-BCDF-4DE8-9827-7472D825CC15@gmail.com> <66BB9AD2-EB35-4A75-B785-DAD511EC545C@mac.com> Message-ID: <305399D9-3FB5-4228-84EF-421FFD047BD6@gmail.com> I am but it says the folder does not exist. If you are a podbean memmber go to publish and then the choose file dialogue. It shows an open dialogue. and the cmd shift g shows the file name only not the path that I know is on the clipboard. On Jul 13, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > The context for your question might be a little clearer if you could give an example of a site that gives such a browse dialogue for Safari. I'll just ask what happens when you press Command-Shift-G (the "Go to Folder" shortcut)? Are you presented with a text dialog box where you can paste in the path to the file(s) you want? > > Cheers. > > Esther > > On Jul 13, 2011, at 10:16, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello. When hitting choose file, there is no area to paste the file path of a file in. I'm surprised by this as I don't want to navigate all the way to a file when I have the path on the clipboard. How can I make this easier? I'm uploading about 3 gigs of files to a site and don't want to browse every time. I want to paste the path in like I can in other os's. >> >> Take care. >> >> >> Sarah Alawami > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 22:05:38 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:05:38 -0700 Subject: pasting the file path in a safari browse dialogue In-Reply-To: <66BB9AD2-EB35-4A75-B785-DAD511EC545C@mac.com> References: <0B68F964-BCDF-4DE8-9827-7472D825CC15@gmail.com> <66BB9AD2-EB35-4A75-B785-DAD511EC545C@mac.com> Message-ID: <2F6671D0-6296-41CC-B827-4B0C8462D6C9@gmail.com> Ok to show what I mean check this out. I actually tried to upload a file and had to go about it the long way. It should be up in a few minutes. http://db.tt/JtrfoP3 On Jul 13, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > The context for your question might be a little clearer if you could give an example of a site that gives such a browse dialogue for Safari. I'll just ask what happens when you press Command-Shift-G (the "Go to Folder" shortcut)? Are you presented with a text dialog box where you can paste in the path to the file(s) you want? > > Cheers. > > Esther > > On Jul 13, 2011, at 10:16, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello. When hitting choose file, there is no area to paste the file path of a file in. I'm surprised by this as I don't want to navigate all the way to a file when I have the path on the clipboard. How can I make this easier? I'm uploading about 3 gigs of files to a site and don't want to browse every time. I want to paste the path in like I can in other os's. >> >> Take care. >> >> >> Sarah Alawami > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From orin8722 at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 22:50:55 2011 From: orin8722 at gmail.com (Orin) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:50:55 -0400 Subject: SnowTape Message-ID: <386254BB-D4CF-45BA-8B8A-27C2312814E7@gmail.com> Hey al, I don't know how long VOiceOver support was added, but SnowTape by Vemedio, which is a radio recorder/scheduler/directory and a whole bunch of other things, now has VOiceOver support, this after emailing the developer a few times. It's kind of like Radio Shift but if everyone emails the developer of this app their problems they're having, I can see this app coming a long way to becoming usable. From what I discovered so far, we can search for stations, import stations, import a list of stations and listen to stations in the directory. You can import stations via PLS, M3U, etc, I haven't figured out how to do that. I haven't figured out how to record yet. I haven't figured out how to access preferences yet, but this is the first update from what i see. In previous updates, you could do nothing, you got the "SnowTape has no windows" treatment. Get a demo at http://www.vemedio.com They also have it for iOS, and an app for iOS called InstaCast, an app kind of like Podcaster. Hope some other than me have an interest in these types of apps. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 23:30:03 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:30:03 -0700 Subject: SnowTape In-Reply-To: <386254BB-D4CF-45BA-8B8A-27C2312814E7@gmail.com> References: <386254BB-D4CF-45BA-8B8A-27C2312814E7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3EF6163C-0793-4D1B-B491-CEB1E1BA1537@gmail.com> cool. thanks for the update and keep up the good work all of you are doign witht he devs. take care all. On Jul 13, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Orin wrote: > Hey al, > I don't know how long VOiceOver support was added, but SnowTape by Vemedio, which is a radio recorder/scheduler/directory and a whole bunch of other things, now has VOiceOver support, this after emailing the developer a few times. > > It's kind of like Radio Shift but if everyone emails the developer of this app their problems they're having, I can see this app coming a long way to becoming usable. From what I discovered so far, we can search for stations, import stations, import a list of stations and listen to stations in the directory. You can import stations via PLS, M3U, etc, I haven't figured out how to do that. I haven't figured out how to record yet. I haven't figured out how to access preferences yet, but this is the first update from what i see. > In previous updates, you could do nothing, you got the "SnowTape has no windows" treatment. > > Get a demo at http://www.vemedio.com > > They also have it for iOS, and an app for iOS called InstaCast, an app kind of like Podcaster. > > Hope some other than me have an interest in these types of apps. > > > Orin > orin8722 at gmail.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks > Skype: orin1112 > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Wed Jul 13 23:45:53 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 08:45:53 +1000 Subject: games for the i phone Message-ID: <00640CBC-0FBD-47F6-859B-49E28312DCDD@bluebottle.com> hi does any one know if there is any accessalble games for the blind for the i phone? From chaas0217 at gmail.com Thu Jul 14 01:08:35 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:08:35 -0600 Subject: unsub In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <307CBA0E-664A-4B47-B6D8-9734B32E1C41@gmail.com> Hi: I'd like to unsubscribe from this list. But, the link to update my membership prefs appears to be broken. Any help appreciated. TIA Carolyn From sauro.fani at gmail.com Thu Jul 14 08:59:22 2011 From: sauro.fani at gmail.com (sauro fani) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:59:22 +0200 Subject: Add sound in Garageband In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2011/7/14, sauro fani : > Hello everyone. > > I am a user of Garageband and Jam Packs, I would like to add the > Kontakt 4 Player to load an additional samples, but this is not > 'absolutely > accessible. I found another plugin not accessible example of Modeling > Preamp with Garageband, but I still managed to use scrolling to the > default presets > in GB, with Kontakt Player this is not 'possible. > Do you have tips for me? > I thank you all and please excuse my English! :-) > > Sauro, From Italy. > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Jul 14 10:00:10 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:00:10 +0100 Subject: Changing partitions on my internal hard disk Message-ID: Hello, I have two partitions on my iMac built-in hard disk. Each partition is a different level of MAC OS. I have Time Machine and SuperDuper! backups of each of these partitions on an external disk drive. I need to change the partition boundary on my iMac hard disk so that one partition gets more disk space at the expense of the other partition. At present one partition has over 100 GB of free space while the other partition has only 15 GB of free space. SO I opened the disk utility, selected my iMac disk drive and selected the partition tab. In the scroll area I could see my two partitions but disk utility would not let me change either of them. So I thought that might be reasonable as I had booted off one of the above partitions which might thus be "locked". So I then booted one of m my SuperDuper! backups on my external disk drive and again tried the disk utility. Again his refused to let me change either of the partitions on my iMac internal disk drive even though I had booted from an external disk drive. SO how can I change the way my iMac internal disk drive is partitioned? If there is no other way I suppose I could erase both partitions; create two new partitions of the desired size and then use my SuperDuper! backups to populate these two partitions. However that seems a high risk procedure not to be lightly undertaken. And here is a SuperDuper! question. Can I use SuperDuper! to restore a SuperDuper! backup to a partition whose size is different than the partition size when I did the SuperDuper! backup? Many thanks for any help. Paul Hopewell From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 14 12:52:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:52:27 +0100 Subject: Preparing A Disk for Backup; [Was Disk Utility] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5546B955-116A-4C5B-B72E-E9DF2587ED25@mac-access.net> Hello Sarah You can only boot an Intel? Mac using the Guide partition table. So if you used the Erase tab, (there's no format tab in Disk Utility), it must have already been partitioned correctly. There's no getting around it Sarah; you must use that partition scheme and that's all there is to it. Lynne On 13 Jul 2011, at 19:18, Sarah Alawami wrote: Huh? Actually what I did was I just went to format and reformated the thing. no need to go to partitioning anything. I did this on a 2 tb elements drive and it worked flawlesly. On Jul 12, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah & Mark > > Sarah; you missed quite a lot of detail here so i will try and give Mark step-by-step help. > > 1. From the Finder, press Command+Shift+U to open your Utilities folder. Otherwise, navigate through to "/Applications/Utilities/" then find, and open "Disk Utility.app". > 2. You'll probably need to press the "Tab" key once to bring focus on to the list of selected devices. Highlight the device you wish to work with in the table. > 3. Press "Tab" and you'll hear the list of available tabs. The default is "First Aid". Move your cursor using the unmodified arrow keys until you hit the "Partition" tab. Then press VoiceOver+Space to select it. > 4. Where you hear "Current Partition Scheme" modify that setting to "1 Partition". > 5. Move to the "Options" button and activate it. > 6. in the list of partition types, make sure you select the "Guide" partition table. That's the only type from which an Intel Mac can boot. Then hit OK, and apply. > > You should then find it works as you expected. This is only from memory; I'm not actually doing that as I type so it's possible I missed something minor, but essentially the process is correct. But looking for the "Format" tab is misleading because there isn't such a tab. > > Lynne > > On 13 Jul 2011, at 01:09, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > You need to select yoru disk's title under the main disk area where partitions is. then you should be able to find the tabs that it mentions. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moriond at mac.com Thu Jul 14 14:39:03 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 03:39:03 -1000 Subject: Changing partitions on my internal hard disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6181B895-6CE4-4FE6-8E47-338EA5034DC6@mac.com> Hi Paul, I've never tried changing the partition boundaries of my main hard drive, so hopefully someone else can tell you about restrictions, but you can do this with a software tool called iPartition from Coriolis Systems, who are the same people who make iDefrag, which I've used, and which has also been used by others on this list. Here's an old post (October 2008) pulled up from a Mail Archive search of a different list written by Jacob Schmude on resizing partitions: Sorry I accidentally deleted the message this is in response to, but actually there is an accessible program to resize partitions on OS X. It's called iPartition. It's not free, cost is $50, but well worth it if you do a lot of work with hard drives IMHO. It's one of those programs that some features don't look accessible at first glance but there's a lot of hidden keyboard support in there. You can grab the demo and have a look at how it works, you can't commit your changes with the demo but it'll give you an idea of what to expect out of the interface. Have a look here: http://www.coriolis-systems.com/iPartition.php In particular, the resize feature can be done from the keyboard but this isn't explicitly stated. Highlight the partition in the partitions table and it will appear in the pie chart (yes, the pie chart is accessible, and it will give you the current partition and size). Use the left and right arrows to resize, note that arrowing to the right makes it smaller not to the left in some cases, it depends on where the partition is located on the disk and how the data is layid out on the partition. At any rate, you'll be able to see the new size as you go. Resizing of HFS+, NTFS, and FAT is supported. The usual warnings apply, have a backup of the disk in question!!! Partition resizing isn't a fault tolerant operation and even if you don't make any mistakes the unexpected can happen--the power could go out, etc. I think Gordon may have experience using iPartition, too, but it's not something that I recall being actively discussed on this list, the way that iDefrag was. Incidentally, the Mail Archive has wonderful search features, including wild cards, search by subject, poster, date range, and more -- all with a simple syntax, so this should really make searching our own list archives very flexible. Cheers, Esther On Jul 13, 2011, at 23:00, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I have two partitions on my iMac built-in hard disk. Each partition is a different level of MAC OS. I have Time Machine and SuperDuper! backups of each of these partitions on an external disk drive. > > I need to change the partition boundary on my iMac hard disk so that one partition gets more disk space at the expense of the other partition. At present one partition has over 100 GB of free space while the other partition has only 15 GB of free space. > > SO I opened the disk utility, selected my iMac disk drive and selected the partition tab. In the scroll area I could see my two partitions but disk utility would not let me change either of them. So I thought that might be reasonable as I had booted off one of the above partitions which might thus be "locked". So I then booted one of m my SuperDuper! backups on my external disk drive and again tried the disk utility. Again his refused to let me change either of the partitions on my iMac internal disk drive even though I had booted from an external disk drive. > > SO how can I change the way my iMac internal disk drive is partitioned? If there is no other way I suppose I could erase both partitions; create two new partitions of the desired size and then use my SuperDuper! backups to populate these two partitions. However that seems a high risk procedure not to be lightly undertaken. > > And here is a SuperDuper! question. Can I use SuperDuper! to restore a SuperDuper! backup to a partition whose size is different than the partition size when I did the SuperDuper! backup? > > Many thanks for any help. > > Paul Hopewell From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jul 14 15:51:49 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:51:49 +0100 Subject: Burning Audible books to cd Message-ID: <6F11CECA-0753-489A-AEFB-A277F5C1F8C1@computing.dcu.ie> Really simple question, how does one do this? C?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From support at mac-access.net Thu Jul 14 16:32:57 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:32:57 +0100 Subject: Take Control clients; please read Message-ID: <21A4C495-9C59-49FD-A013-3FD6B6EAF71C@mac-access.net> Hello all TC clients of Mac Access Dot Net. Our new server hardware has just arrived and Gosh; have Apple changed the design of their hardware! We are writing now because it may be necessary for us to take down the website server and the TC bookshelf server for a little while later this evening. We will try to schedule the outage for the least inconvenient time possible; but there's always somebody up and doing who wants to use it. So we apologise, but we feel sure you'll appreciate the advantages when we bring it back up. If you notice that things aren't working as usual later tonight, don't worry about it; it will soon be back up and running. I should also mention that the outage will not affect email in any way whatsoever. The list and all other email services will continue to function throughout. But if you have any questions or concerns related to this matter please don't hesitate to contact us at the support address, . Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jul 14 18:49:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:49:08 -0700 Subject: Changing partitions on my internal hard disk In-Reply-To: <6181B895-6CE4-4FE6-8E47-338EA5034DC6@mac.com> References: <6181B895-6CE4-4FE6-8E47-338EA5034DC6@mac.com> Message-ID: You cannot chnge the partition of your start up disk even when it is booted from another source such as your dvd. I don't really know why you can't but there you go. On Jul 14, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I've never tried changing the partition boundaries of my main hard drive, so hopefully someone else can tell you about restrictions, but you can do this with a software tool called iPartition from Coriolis Systems, who are the same people who make iDefrag, which I've used, and which has also been used by others on this list. Here's an old post (October 2008) pulled up from a Mail Archive search of a different list written by Jacob Schmude on resizing partitions: > > Sorry I accidentally deleted the message this is in response to, but actually there is an accessible program to resize partitions on OS X. It's called iPartition. It's not free, cost is $50, but well worth it if you do a lot of work with hard drives IMHO. It's one of those programs that some features don't look accessible at first glance but there's a lot of hidden keyboard support in there. You can grab the demo and have a look at how it works, you can't commit your changes with the demo but it'll give you an idea of what to expect out of the interface. Have a look here: > http://www.coriolis-systems.com/iPartition.php > In particular, the resize feature can be done from the keyboard but this isn't explicitly stated. Highlight the partition in the partitions table and it will appear in the pie chart (yes, the pie chart is accessible, and it will give you the current partition and size). Use the left and right arrows to resize, note that arrowing to the right makes it smaller not to the left in some cases, it depends on where the partition is located on the disk and how the data is layid out on the partition. At any rate, you'll be able to see the new size as you go. Resizing of HFS+, NTFS, and FAT is supported. The usual warnings apply, have a backup of the disk in question!!! Partition resizing isn't a fault tolerant operation and even if you don't make any mistakes the unexpected can happen--the power could go out, etc. > > > I think Gordon may have experience using iPartition, too, but it's not something that I recall being actively discussed on this list, the way that iDefrag was. > > Incidentally, the Mail Archive has wonderful search features, including wild cards, search by subject, poster, date range, and more -- all with a simple syntax, so this should really make searching our own list archives very flexible. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jul 13, 2011, at 23:00, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I have two partitions on my iMac built-in hard disk. Each partition is a different level of MAC OS. I have Time Machine and SuperDuper! backups of each of these partitions on an external disk drive. >> >> I need to change the partition boundary on my iMac hard disk so that one partition gets more disk space at the expense of the other partition. At present one partition has over 100 GB of free space while the other partition has only 15 GB of free space. >> >> SO I opened the disk utility, selected my iMac disk drive and selected the partition tab. In the scroll area I could see my two partitions but disk utility would not let me change either of them. So I thought that might be reasonable as I had booted off one of the above partitions which might thus be "locked". So I then booted one of m my SuperDuper! backups on my external disk drive and again tried the disk utility. Again his refused to let me change either of the partitions on my iMac internal disk drive even though I had booted from an external disk drive. >> >> SO how can I change the way my iMac internal disk drive is partitioned? If there is no other way I suppose I could erase both partitions; create two new partitions of the desired size and then use my SuperDuper! backups to populate these two partitions. However that seems a high risk procedure not to be lightly undertaken. >> >> And here is a SuperDuper! question. Can I use SuperDuper! to restore a SuperDuper! backup to a partition whose size is different than the partition size when I did the SuperDuper! backup? >> >> Many thanks for any help. >> >> Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jul 14 18:50:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:50:39 -0700 Subject: Preparing A Disk for Backup; [Was Disk Utility] In-Reply-To: <5546B955-116A-4C5B-B72E-E9DF2587ED25@mac-access.net> References: <5546B955-116A-4C5B-B72E-E9DF2587ED25@mac-access.net> Message-ID: OH really? I just go to the drive name such as john's mac and go to arace and reformat, Ok, from the mac's dvd but I do the same on other drrives. I had a fat32 drive I bought and I just up and reformated it from the main expanded ting. no partition tin gneeded. I run snl though. On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:52 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > You can only boot an Intel? Mac using the Guide partition table. So if you used the Erase tab, (there's no format tab in Disk Utility), it must have already been partitioned correctly. There's no getting around it Sarah; you must use that partition scheme and that's all there is to it. > > Lynne > > On 13 Jul 2011, at 19:18, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > Huh? Actually what I did was I just went to format and reformated the thing. no need to go to partitioning anything. I did this on a 2 tb elements drive and it worked flawlesly. > On Jul 12, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Sarah & Mark >> >> Sarah; you missed quite a lot of detail here so i will try and give Mark step-by-step help. >> >> 1. From the Finder, press Command+Shift+U to open your Utilities folder. Otherwise, navigate through to "/Applications/Utilities/" then find, and open "Disk Utility.app". >> 2. You'll probably need to press the "Tab" key once to bring focus on to the list of selected devices. Highlight the device you wish to work with in the table. >> 3. Press "Tab" and you'll hear the list of available tabs. The default is "First Aid". Move your cursor using the unmodified arrow keys until you hit the "Partition" tab. Then press VoiceOver+Space to select it. >> 4. Where you hear "Current Partition Scheme" modify that setting to "1 Partition". >> 5. Move to the "Options" button and activate it. >> 6. in the list of partition types, make sure you select the "Guide" partition table. That's the only type from which an Intel Mac can boot. Then hit OK, and apply. >> >> You should then find it works as you expected. This is only from memory; I'm not actually doing that as I type so it's possible I missed something minor, but essentially the process is correct. But looking for the "Format" tab is misleading because there isn't such a tab. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 13 Jul 2011, at 01:09, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >> You need to select yoru disk's title under the main disk area where partitions is. then you should be able to find the tabs that it mentions. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jul 14 18:52:16 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:52:16 -0700 Subject: Add sound in Garageband In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <048A3541-A068-4798-90F9-B51A2CFDF9C7@gmail.com> > Unfortunately the contact player is not accessibil in most platforms. I have no idea if the devs were contacted but this has been the case since 2005 when I started using the contact player, or in this case not using it lol! 200 On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:59 AM, sauro fani wrote: > 2011/7/14, sauro fani : >> Hello everyone. >> >> I am a user of Garageband and Jam Packs, I would like to add the >> Kontakt 4 Player to load an additional samples, but this is not >> 'absolutely >> accessible. I found another plugin not accessible example of Modeling >> Preamp with Garageband, but I still managed to use scrolling to the >> default presets >> in GB, with Kontakt Player this is not 'possible. >> Do you have tips for me? >> I thank you all and please excuse my English! :-) >> >> Sauro, From Italy. >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Jul 14 20:05:54 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:05:54 +0200 Subject: Changing partitions on my internal hard disk In-Reply-To: <6181B895-6CE4-4FE6-8E47-338EA5034DC6@mac.com> References: <6181B895-6CE4-4FE6-8E47-338EA5034DC6@mac.com> Message-ID: <7CEF22C0-45BA-4D24-A69D-9A60682AB89B@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Paul, You could try booting from your install DVD and using the Disk Utility from there. It should allow you to repartition your internal HD without you losing any dat. If that fails, the clones you've made only occupy as much space as is in use, so you can copy them back to the newly-resized partitions without worrying. Cheers, Anne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 14 23:20:59 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:20:59 +0100 Subject: Exciting News Message-ID: <1B006905-0C25-4F24-B294-A729EA4EDCD8@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Firstly, the article I wrote regarding system backups at has been updated with new information regarding Super Duper!. Secondly, thanks to the fact that one list member saw fit to let me know, it seems that at last, we've found an accessible solution to rival iWeb. Sandvox 2.1 is shareware, and looks to be incredibly easy to use. I will detail more later. Lynne From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jul 15 05:06:24 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:06:24 -0400 Subject: organising downloads automatically In-Reply-To: <8150EB81-CD48-4CB2-9795-E5D0EFCF60AA@computing.dcu.ie> References: <8150EB81-CD48-4CB2-9795-E5D0EFCF60AA@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <386689AC-43C3-461D-AE4C-C974BD4ACF62@softcon.com> Actually, the meta information for the files contains the information about where the file came from. I haven't a clue how to get at it via applescript, I don't recall anything about that when I read the applescript programming guide, but I'm sure there's a unix script or something somewhere that can get at the info. I'll do some experimenting, and see if I can turn up anything. I know it's there, because finder likes to remind me that a particular file came from a certain location, and that I should be aware of malicious files, and do I really want to run this program. Now, how to get that info into something unix or apple scripts can use is of course a different story. :) From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jul 15 05:45:00 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:45:00 -0400 Subject: Burning Audible books to cd In-Reply-To: <6F11CECA-0753-489A-AEFB-A277F5C1F8C1@computing.dcu.ie> References: <6F11CECA-0753-489A-AEFB-A277F5C1F8C1@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <3BAD6ECC-D139-4BDC-9E89-AF8E6C1C90A1@softcon.com> When you have the audible book you want burned in a list, just vo- shift-m, then select burn selection to disk. Be advised though, he audible method of burning is really horrible when it comes to cd breaks, since it just goes until the cd is full, then backs up 30 seconds or so, then begins again on the next disk. I usually wind up audio hijacking the content, then creating new files to do the burning with, since then I can control where it puts the breaks. It does take a while especially with long books though. You could of course burn the book, then rip it back, then use a file merge/splitting program to do the job too, but I've not tried this approach. From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 12:23:53 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:23:53 -0400 Subject: organising downloads automatically In-Reply-To: <386689AC-43C3-461D-AE4C-C974BD4ACF62@softcon.com> References: <8150EB81-CD48-4CB2-9795-E5D0EFCF60AA@computing.dcu.ie> <386689AC-43C3-461D-AE4C-C974BD4ACF62@softcon.com> Message-ID: <542E13CD-AAA4-4D58-819E-8B13D11FA040@gmail.com> OK what I know: This is kept in the extended attributes of the file. You know the dot underline files that show up on FAT file systems... The command xatr -d com.apple.quaritine Filename will remove the warning you get about a file coming from the internet. There is not a man page for xattr that I could find, but the -h option does let you know the arguments available. Will you share your adventures? Thanks, Jonathan On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:06 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Actually, the meta information for the files contains the information about where the file came from. I haven't a clue how to get at it via applescript, I don't recall anything about that when I read the applescript programming guide, but I'm sure there's a unix script or something somewhere that can get at the info. > I'll do some experimenting, and see if I can turn up anything. > I know it's there, because finder likes to remind me that a particular file came from a certain location, and that I should be aware of malicious files, and do I really want to run this program. > Now, how to get that info into something unix or apple scripts can use is of course a different story. :) > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jul 15 13:15:03 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:15:03 -0400 Subject: organising downloads automatically In-Reply-To: <542E13CD-AAA4-4D58-819E-8B13D11FA040@gmail.com> References: <8150EB81-CD48-4CB2-9795-E5D0EFCF60AA@computing.dcu.ie> <386689AC-43C3-461D-AE4C-C974BD4ACF62@softcon.com> <542E13CD-AAA4-4D58-819E-8B13D11FA040@gmail.com> Message-ID: <73FA07CD-A5A3-433B-A056-9CF3EF1D1940@softcon.com> Hmm, interesting. In tiger, there is no xatr command, so apparently it's a recent eddition. I'll check on the laptop and see what it says. Regardless, there still needs to be a way to obtain this information, regardless of os version, since it's been there from the beginning. :) Will let the list know what (if anything) I come up with on this. On Jul 15, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > OK what I know: > > This is kept in the extended attributes of the file. You know the > dot underline files that show up on FAT file systems... > > The command xatr -d com.apple.quaritine Filename > > will remove the warning you get about a file coming from the internet. > > There is not a man page for xattr that I could find, but the -h > option does let you know the arguments available. > > Will you share your adventures? > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:06 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> Actually, the meta information for the files contains the >> information about where the file came from. I haven't a clue how >> to get at it via applescript, I don't recall anything about that >> when I read the applescript programming guide, but I'm sure >> there's a unix script or something somewhere that can get at the >> info. >> I'll do some experimenting, and see if I can turn up anything. >> I know it's there, because finder likes to remind me that a >> particular file came from a certain location, and that I should be >> aware of malicious files, and do I really want to run this program. >> Now, how to get that info into something unix or apple scripts can >> use is of course a different story. :) >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- >> access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted >> to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- > access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted > to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 15 13:49:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:49:24 +0100 Subject: Lion! Message-ID: <8653F72D-A5B3-444D-AE85-78ECDE9EED61@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Reading between the lines of what I see in various reliable sources on the Internet, I think we can expect Lion to go public early next week. It will be available in the App Store and Apple's "Switch" programme will be effective again. Meaning that, if you have bought any qualifying Apple hardware within 90 days of the release of the OS, you will be entitled to a free copy of Lion. That's my understanding anyway. Qualifying hardware being, as I read it, any iPod or iPad or iPhone, plus any Mac computer. The issue of bootable media is still one I'd like to know the answer too. But I'm sure Apple will make it all clear in due course. Lynne From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jul 15 14:01:54 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:01:54 -0300 Subject: iPhone audio question. Message-ID: Hi Folks: For some reason, the left ear bud of my headphones is louder than the right one when playing audio. Can anything be done about this? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6296 (20110715) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 14:02:30 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:02:30 -0400 Subject: organising downloads automatically In-Reply-To: <73FA07CD-A5A3-433B-A056-9CF3EF1D1940@softcon.com> References: <8150EB81-CD48-4CB2-9795-E5D0EFCF60AA@computing.dcu.ie> <386689AC-43C3-461D-AE4C-C974BD4ACF62@softcon.com> <542E13CD-AAA4-4D58-819E-8B13D11FA040@gmail.com> <73FA07CD-A5A3-433B-A056-9CF3EF1D1940@softcon.com> Message-ID: There are two t's in the command name. Another place to potentially look: man mdls But I believe the mdfind and mdls commands are newer then tiger. In any case look at the end of this listing: operations-center:downloads joncohn$ mdls hints.macworld.com.htmlkMDItemContentCreationDate = 2011-07-15 07:14:52 -0400 kMDItemContentModificationDate = 2011-07-15 07:14:52 -0400 kMDItemContentType = "public.html" kMDItemContentTypeTree = ( "public.html", "public.text", "public.data", "public.item", "public.content" ) kMDItemDisplayName = "hints.macworld.com.html" kMDItemFSContentChangeDate = 2011-07-15 07:14:52 -0400 kMDItemFSCreationDate = 2011-07-15 07:14:52 -0400 kMDItemFSCreatorCode = "" kMDItemFSFinderFlags = 0 kMDItemFSHasCustomIcon = 0 kMDItemFSInvisible = 0 kMDItemFSIsExtensionHidden = 0 kMDItemFSIsStationery = 0 kMDItemFSLabel = 0 kMDItemFSName = "hints.macworld.com.html" wkMDItemFSNodeCount = 0 kMDItemFSOwnerGroupID = 502 kMDItemFSOwnerUserID = 502 kMDItemFSSize = 81213 kMDItemFSTypeCode = "" kMDItemKind = "HTML document" kMDItemLastUsedDate = 2011-07-15 07:14:52 -0400 kMDItemTitle = "Mac OS X Hints - A community-built collection of OS X hints" kMDItemUsedDates = ( "2011-07-15 00:00:00 -0400" ) kMDItemWhereFroms = ( "http://hints.macworld.com/" ) operations-center:downloads joncohn$ On Jul 15, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Hmm, interesting. > In tiger, there is no xatr command, so apparently it's a recent eddition. I'll check on the laptop and see what it says. Regardless, there still needs to be a way to obtain this information, regardless of os version, since it's been there from the beginning. :) > Will let the list know what (if anything) I come up with on this. > On Jul 15, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > >> OK what I know: >> >> This is kept in the extended attributes of the file. You know the dot underline files that show up on FAT file systems... >> >> The command xatr -d com.apple.quaritine Filename >> >> will remove the warning you get about a file coming from the internet. >> >> There is not a man page for xattr that I could find, but the -h option does let you know the arguments available. >> >> Will you share your adventures? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jonathan >> On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:06 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: >> >>> Actually, the meta information for the files contains the information about where the file came from. I haven't a clue how to get at it via applescript, I don't recall anything about that when I read the applescript programming guide, but I'm sure there's a unix script or something somewhere that can get at the info. >>> I'll do some experimenting, and see if I can turn up anything. >>> I know it's there, because finder likes to remind me that a particular file came from a certain location, and that I should be aware of malicious files, and do I really want to run this program. >>> Now, how to get that info into something unix or apple scripts can use is of course a different story. :) >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Jonathan C. Cohn joncohn at cox.net From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jul 15 14:10:05 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:10:05 -0300 Subject: recording Skype calls on an Mac. Message-ID: Hi Folks: Can anyone suggest the best way to record Skype calls on a MAC? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6296 (20110715) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From opensesame at me.com Fri Jul 15 14:24:31 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:24:31 -0400 Subject: iPhone audio question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6F447653-81E0-4699-B366-A2ED451D6390@me.com> Hello Jim, By any chance, are these the stock earbuds with built-in microphone that came with your iPhone? If yes, is the quieter bud the one on the end of the wire with the microphone in it? I experienced the same issue with 2 sets of these earbuds. My guess is that the wire on the microphone side is susceptible to wear and tear. At first I had assumed one of my audio settings had gone funky but after checking everything, resetting the iphone, and finding that 3 other pairs of standard headphones and buds worked just fine, I took the malfunctioning Apple buds to an Apple store and they replaced them "under warranty" no questions asked. HTH, Bryan On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > For some reason, the left ear bud of my headphones is louder than the right one when playing audio. Can anything be done about this? From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jul 15 14:31:36 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:31:36 -0300 Subject: iPhone audio question. In-Reply-To: <6F447653-81E0-4699-B366-A2ED451D6390@me.com> References: <6F447653-81E0-4699-B366-A2ED451D6390@me.com> Message-ID: <94AC598FE8F14DC983C4C085E66A6846@MainComputer> Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Jones" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:24 AM Subject: Re: iPhone audio question. > Hello Jim, > > By any chance, are these the stock earbuds with built-in microphone that > came with your iPhone? If yes, is the quieter bud the one on the end of > the wire with the microphone in it? I experienced the same issue with 2 > sets of these earbuds. My guess is that the wire on the microphone side is > susceptible to wear and tear. At first I had assumed one of my audio > settings had gone funky but after checking everything, resetting the > iphone, and finding that 3 other pairs of standard headphones and buds > worked just fine, I took the malfunctioning Apple buds to an Apple store > and they replaced them "under warranty" no questions asked. > > HTH, > Bryan > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> For some reason, the left ear bud of my headphones is louder than the >> right one when playing audio. Can anything be done about this? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6297 (20110715) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6297 (20110715) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com Fri Jul 15 14:33:11 2011 From: bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com (Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:33:11 +0100 Subject: recording Skype calls on an Mac. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Can anyone suggest the best way to record Skype calls on a MAC? One way might be Audio Hijack Pro: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijackpro/ -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Fri Jul 15 16:14:13 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:14:13 +0100 Subject: Prizmo on the Mac! Message-ID: <184090AE-919D-4415-A206-1F13926B4AD6@virginmedia.com> Hi all! Sorry to bring up OCR again! But I've seen on the discussions people talking about vu scan and that one beginning with D and Abby fine reader! Then people really like Prizmo on the Iphone! But Prizmo is also available for the Mac and I was wondering why that is not mentioned! Is the Mac version not as good as the others or is it not vo friendly! Or no one has tried it or no one has heard of it! Any input welcome! Where ever you are have a great Day, Night or even Morning! Colin From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Fri Jul 15 17:39:23 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 02:39:23 +1000 Subject: help making a dvd Message-ID: ok so i have the files from my i phone in mp4v format i try to burn the dvd from the finder it goes in mac o s format how do i get it in dvd fromat so it can be played in a normal dvd player please can some one help me my little 3 year old nephiew is really wanting his movie cheers from krystal From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jul 15 17:44:32 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:44:32 -0300 Subject: playing flash content on my MacBook Pro. Message-ID: <004483952D6344999F1B4DF7A01AFC40@MainComputer> Hi Folks: I don't appear to be able to play the flash content on my mac. Any help would be appreciated all over the place. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6297 (20110715) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From va3ets2000 at me.com Fri Jul 15 17:54:46 2011 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:54:46 -0400 Subject: Roxio Toast titanium, is it accessible or not? Message-ID: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> Hi, A friend of mine who is on this list as well, is trying to figure out a way that she can burn videos taken on her iPhone to DVD, for relatives to have, that do not have a computer. We avoided using iDVD, as it hasn't been updated, and I think, is a dead or dying product. Plus, it didn't look accessible at all either. Found an article on the Mac rumours forums, and the poster on there, had used toast titanium, from Roxio. IN looking at the Roxio site, I see that app is a $99 value. From a VO user's prospective, is it worth the price? Didn't seem like there were trials available from what I could tell. From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 17:55:32 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas rudolph) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:55:32 -0600 Subject: pc vs mac Message-ID: <81E8FF9DB13F4E10BA3BF664A65B6D6C@dougPC> hey guys, this is probley a drawn out sort of question, but i am seriously looking at getting a mac, since the new version to be coming out for windows is windows 8 and it sounds to be mobile based which is very difficult with our screen readers, and im wondering, what are some major learning curves i wil have to learn to be successful on the mac? This email may contain personal identifyable information. Copy, relay, redistributions, and or reading of these emails is strictly prohibited, unless you are the intended recipiant of this email, and this intended recipiant only. If this is not the intended recipiant, then you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify sender. Douglas Rudolph Tel: 1306-565-2056 Cell: 1306-209-2823 Email: doug.cam3 at gmail.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 18:22:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:22:27 -0700 Subject: pc vs mac In-Reply-To: <81E8FF9DB13F4E10BA3BF664A65B6D6C@dougPC> References: <81E8FF9DB13F4E10BA3BF664A65B6D6C@dougPC> Message-ID: <2D071027-DDB4-49D9-BE46-AE1BE0142EF5@gmail.com> One rule of thumb I always follow is do not by any means compair the two in usability. They both will have there pros and cons. I use both platforms but the mac does have a slightly higher lerning curve as you *must* think outside the box for some things and use the terminal for some things which I don't mine. I would go to my apple store nd play wiht a machine for a while to see if you like it or not and make your decissions from there. Good luck. On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:55 AM, douglas rudolph wrote: > hey guys, this is probley a drawn out sort of question, but i am seriously looking at getting a mac, since the new version to be coming out for windows is windows 8 and it sounds to be mobile based which is very difficult with our screen readers, and im wondering, what are some major learning curves i wil have to learn to be successful on the mac? > This email may contain personal identifyable information. Copy, relay, redistributions, and or reading of these emails is strictly prohibited, unless you are the intended recipiant of this email, and this intended recipiant only. If this is not the intended recipiant, then you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify sender. > Douglas Rudolph > Tel: 1306-565-2056 > Cell: 1306-209-2823 > Email: doug.cam3 at gmail.com > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 18:23:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:23:08 -0700 Subject: playing flash content on my MacBook Pro. In-Reply-To: <004483952D6344999F1B4DF7A01AFC40@MainComputer> References: <004483952D6344999F1B4DF7A01AFC40@MainComputer> Message-ID: <06738DED-EBBE-45BB-9CEE-50DDD475F5E4@gmail.com> You can't. That's the simple truth about it. adobe and apple for some reason do not get along with it and the problem will only get worse from what I hear. Take care. On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I don't appear to be able to play the flash content on my mac. Any help would be appreciated all over the place. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6297 (20110715) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 18:23:36 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:23:36 -0700 Subject: recording Skype calls on an Mac. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06773F21-D5C2-42F8-9314-CD118D56A2AC@gmail.com> Use sound flower and garage band for roting and procesing. I do this all the time and my skype calls come out great. Take care. On Jul 15, 2011, at 6:10 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Can anyone suggest the best way to record Skype calls on a MAC? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6296 (20110715) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 15 18:24:59 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:24:59 +0100 Subject: Roxio Toast titanium, is it accessible or not? In-Reply-To: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> Message-ID: <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> Hello No, for the most part it isn't accessible. Lynne On 15 Jul 2011, at 17:54, Dan Eickmeier wrote: Hi, A friend of mine who is on this list as well, is trying to figure out a way that she can burn videos taken on her iPhone to DVD, for relatives to have, that do not have a computer. We avoided using iDVD, as it hasn't been updated, and I think, is a dead or dying product. Plus, it didn't look accessible at all either. Found an article on the Mac rumours forums, and the poster on there, had used toast titanium, from Roxio. IN looking at the Roxio site, I see that app is a $99 value. From a VO user's prospective, is it worth the price? Didn't seem like there were trials available from what I could tell. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 18:25:10 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:25:10 -0700 Subject: iPhone audio question. In-Reply-To: <6F447653-81E0-4699-B366-A2ED451D6390@me.com> References: <6F447653-81E0-4699-B366-A2ED451D6390@me.com> Message-ID: <49284D96-370C-4514-A164-66A051D4FE61@gmail.com> Actually I'm noticing that as well. it's my left ear that's quiet and no tears that I can see. It also lost all bass so not I'm stuck listening to mids and highs. Yuck! On Jul 15, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello Jim, > > By any chance, are these the stock earbuds with built-in microphone that came with your iPhone? If yes, is the quieter bud the one on the end of the wire with the microphone in it? I experienced the same issue with 2 sets of these earbuds. My guess is that the wire on the microphone side is susceptible to wear and tear. At first I had assumed one of my audio settings had gone funky but after checking everything, resetting the iphone, and finding that 3 other pairs of standard headphones and buds worked just fine, I took the malfunctioning Apple buds to an Apple store and they replaced them "under warranty" no questions asked. > > HTH, > Bryan > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> For some reason, the left ear bud of my headphones is louder than the right one when playing audio. Can anything be done about this? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 15 18:37:42 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:37:42 +0100 Subject: pc vs mac In-Reply-To: <81E8FF9DB13F4E10BA3BF664A65B6D6C@dougPC> References: <81E8FF9DB13F4E10BA3BF664A65B6D6C@dougPC> Message-ID: <7FC7EC70-6C8E-4B4B-A73D-CC40B48B39AE@mac-access.net> Hello First, please let's stay away from the discussion of Windows; that's not what this group is about. I understand why you mentioned it in the context of your question and that's fine. I just wouldn't like to see a discussion on the future of Microsoft or their products on this list. Here's a bit of advice for whatever it is worth for you from somebody who has full vision; but also has a passionate interest in accessibility as I am married to a blind person. First, don't draw comparisons. When you get your Mac and start using it, forget about Windows and how everything worked. If you stop expecting things to happen in a certain way when you perform a certain action because that's how it is with Windows, you'll find things easier. OS X is quite different from Windows; but the basics of the GUI are similar. But there are lots of things to help you with the transition and many of them can be found on this list if, and this is important, you let go of prejudices and preconceptions. This isn't personal comment, it is generic. But I encourage you to make the swap. My blind husband is one of those who have, and he is now at the level where he's heavily involved as a professional systems administrator for a growing company which is reliant on Macs throughout the business owing to the Mac's superiority in the specific fields of interest and also in network performance. Gordon now doesn't touch Windows except for the rare occasions he needs to do Braille transcription on a large scale. I hope that at least some of that will help you. But please don't be afraid to use this list to ask questions. You'll never be flamed or ridiculed; that kind of behaviour isn't tolerated in this group. Lynne On 15 Jul 2011, at 17:55, douglas rudolph wrote: hey guys, this is probley a drawn out sort of question, but i am seriously looking at getting a mac, since the new version to be coming out for windows is windows 8 and it sounds to be mobile based which is very difficult with our screen readers, and im wondering, what are some major learning curves i wil have to learn to be successful on the mac? From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 19:04:11 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:04:11 -0700 Subject: pc vs mac In-Reply-To: <7FC7EC70-6C8E-4B4B-A73D-CC40B48B39AE@mac-access.net> References: <81E8FF9DB13F4E10BA3BF664A65B6D6C@dougPC> <7FC7EC70-6C8E-4B4B-A73D-CC40B48B39AE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Also http://www.blindcooltech, http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast and http:/gwenna.podbean.com are wonderful resources as well. and all from different perspectives. On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello > > First, please let's stay away from the discussion of Windows; that's not what this group is about. I understand why you mentioned it in the context of your question and that's fine. I just wouldn't like to see a discussion on the future of Microsoft or their products on this list. > > Here's a bit of advice for whatever it is worth for you from somebody who has full vision; but also has a passionate interest in accessibility as I am married to a blind person. > > First, don't draw comparisons. When you get your Mac and start using it, forget about Windows and how everything worked. If you stop expecting things to happen in a certain way when you perform a certain action because that's how it is with Windows, you'll find things easier. > > OS X is quite different from Windows; but the basics of the GUI are similar. But there are lots of things to help you with the transition and many of them can be found on this list if, and this is important, you let go of prejudices and preconceptions. This isn't personal comment, it is generic. But I encourage you to make the swap. My blind husband is one of those who have, and he is now at the level where he's heavily involved as a professional systems administrator for a growing company which is reliant on Macs throughout the business owing to the Mac's superiority in the specific fields of interest and also in network performance. Gordon now doesn't touch Windows except for the rare occasions he needs to do Braille transcription on a large scale. > > I hope that at least some of that will help you. But please don't be afraid to use this list to ask questions. You'll never be flamed or ridiculed; that kind of behaviour isn't tolerated in this group. > > Lynne > > > On 15 Jul 2011, at 17:55, douglas rudolph wrote: > > hey guys, this is probley a drawn out sort of question, but i am seriously looking at getting a mac, since the new version to be coming out for windows is windows 8 and it sounds to be mobile based which is very difficult with our screen readers, and im wondering, what are some major learning curves i wil have to learn to be successful on the mac? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 19:07:03 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:07:03 -0400 Subject: Roxio Toast titanium, is it accessible or not? In-Reply-To: <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> That is sad. Apple lists Toast as accessible on http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/applications.html Jonathan On Jul 15, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello > > No, for the most part it isn't accessible. > > Lynne > > > On 15 Jul 2011, at 17:54, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Hi, A friend of mine who is on this list as well, is trying to figure out a way that she can burn videos taken on her iPhone to DVD, for relatives to have, that do not have a computer. We avoided using iDVD, as it hasn't been updated, and I think, is a dead or dying product. Plus, it didn't look accessible at all either. Found an article on the Mac rumours forums, and the poster on there, had used toast titanium, from Roxio. IN looking at the Roxio site, I see that app is a $99 value. From a VO user's prospective, is it worth the price? Didn't seem like there were trials available from what I could tell. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 15 19:28:14 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:28:14 +0100 Subject: Roxio Toast titanium, is it accessible or not? In-Reply-To: <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> Hello Jonathan We have Toast 10 here and I can assure you it isn't accessible for the most part. Lynne On 15 Jul 2011, at 19:07, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: That is sad. Apple lists Toast as accessible on http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/applications.html From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 15 21:06:02 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 06:06:02 +1000 Subject: Prizmo on the Mac! In-Reply-To: <184090AE-919D-4415-A206-1F13926B4AD6@virginmedia.com> References: <184090AE-919D-4415-A206-1F13926B4AD6@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <4E209DAA.3000502@internode.on.net> For my part I didn't know that a Mac version is available, I like Prismo for my Iphone so I'll certainly give the Mac version a go. On 16/07/2011 1:14 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi all! > Sorry to bring up OCR again! > But I've seen on the discussions people talking about vu scan and that one beginning with D and Abby fine reader! > Then people really like Prizmo on the Iphone! > But Prizmo is also available for the Mac and I was wondering why that is not mentioned! > Is the Mac version not as good as the others or is it not vo friendly! > Or no one has tried it or no one has heard of it! > Any input welcome! > Where ever you are have a great Day, Night or even Morning! > Colin > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Fri Jul 15 21:22:36 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:22:36 +0100 Subject: Prizmo on the Mac! In-Reply-To: <4E209DAA.3000502@internode.on.net> References: <184090AE-919D-4415-A206-1F13926B4AD6@virginmedia.com> <4E209DAA.3000502@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4CA7C7D4-81A7-4434-9819-BDF71229F6A6@virginmedia.com> Hi Dane! And everyone else! Do not bother with Prizmo for Mac it is not usable! Apparently even sighted people find it hard to use! Anne Robinson has tried it! And wished she'd saved her money! Colin On 15 Jul 2011, at 21:06, Dane Trethowan wrote: > For my part I didn't know that a Mac version is available, I like Prismo for my Iphone so I'll certainly give the Mac version a go. > > > > On 16/07/2011 1:14 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: >> Hi all! >> Sorry to bring up OCR again! >> But I've seen on the discussions people talking about vu scan and that one beginning with D and Abby fine reader! >> Then people really like Prizmo on the Iphone! >> But Prizmo is also available for the Mac and I was wondering why that is not mentioned! >> Is the Mac version not as good as the others or is it not vo friendly! >> Or no one has tried it or no one has heard of it! >> Any input welcome! >> Where ever you are have a great Day, Night or even Morning! >> Colin >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > skype callto:grtdane12 > MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Jul 15 21:27:22 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:27:22 -1000 Subject: recording Skype calls on an Mac. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jim, I just read a Macworld article posted two days ago about a program called IMCapture that can record Skype calls on your Mac, but I don't know whether it's accessible or how it works. There's a link to a trial download given in the article, though, so you can read through for yourself. Use Safari reader (Command-Shift-R) after you go to the URL. ? "Record your conversations with IMCapture for Skype" July 13, 2011 Macworld: http://www.macworld.com/article/161106/2011/07/imcapture_skype.html I think that many people use Audio Hijack Pro, but in light of some posts that I've read by some people who have traced recent increases in VoiceOver crashing to having some Audio Hijack components installed, I'm not sure whether I can recommend that for recording Skype calls. This appears to date from a recent Snow Leopard update. Some list members may recall that three years ago (before the list archives) Gordon posted that his ability to ssh into other machines had vanished, and that turned out to be due to Instant Hijack interfering with the new security updates in the the software updater. (The fix was to wait for Rogue Amoeba to supply new versions of the Instant Hijack that were compatible with the security update.) I have no idea whether there really is a connection between having any of the Audio Hijack Pro components installed and increased VoiceOver crashing recently, but it seemed prudent to mention the possibility. At the present, this is simply repeating anecdotal accounts that I can't substantiate. Cheers, Esther From moriond at mac.com Fri Jul 15 21:37:27 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:37:27 -1000 Subject: playing flash content on my MacBook Pro. In-Reply-To: <004483952D6344999F1B4DF7A01AFC40@MainComputer> References: <004483952D6344999F1B4DF7A01AFC40@MainComputer> Message-ID: <7115B695-3F38-4D3F-878C-818F7BD7036B@mac.com> Hi Jim, If you have a new MacBook Pro that was manufactured after Apple's decision at the end of October 2010 not to include Adobe Flash Player as part of the default installed software on the Mac, you'll have to separately install the Adobe Flash Player plugin for your browser at: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ This does not guarantee that you'll be able to accessibly play flash content on your Mac, though. And I've also read that earlier flash player versions were large battery drains when installed on the Macbook Air models, but that this is no longer as true of recent versions. (Near the time that Apple announced their decision not to include Flash by default, Ars Technica independently published a review of the 11" Macbook Air, and included their discovery that with Flash installed the battery life was reduced from six hours to four hours. A few other columns reported similar results for the 13" Macbook Air.) I'd suggest that if you do have Flash installed, you might at least want to get the Click-to-Flash Safari extension, so you can block annoying flash-based ads automatically, and only display flash content of your choosing. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 15, 2011, at 06:44, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I don't appear to be able to play the flash content on my mac. Any help would be appreciated all over the place. > From moriond at mac.com Fri Jul 15 21:52:42 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:52:42 -1000 Subject: Roxio Toast titanium, is it accessible or not? In-Reply-To: <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jonathan, Dan, and Others, I think that Toast version 7 from 3 or 4 years ago was usable, but the successive versions got worse and worse from the point of accessibility. In version 8, some people were able to use the context menu. By version 9, I think that accessibility was pretty much gone. People who wrote to Roxio, and that included Gordon, didn't get much response about the prospects of improving VoiceOver support. Cheers, Esther On Jul 15, 2011, at 08:07, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > That is sad. Apple lists Toast as accessible on > http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/applications.html > > Jonathan > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello >> >> No, for the most part it isn't accessible. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> On 15 Jul 2011, at 17:54, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> >> Hi, A friend of mine who is on this list as well, is trying to figure out a way that she can burn videos taken on her iPhone to DVD, for relatives to have, that do not have a computer. We avoided using iDVD, as it hasn't been updated, and I think, is a dead or dying product. Plus, it didn't look accessible at all either. Found an article on the Mac rumours forums, and the poster on there, had used toast titanium, from Roxio. IN looking at the Roxio site, I see that app is a $99 value. From a VO user's prospective, is it worth the price? Didn't seem like there were trials available from what I could tell. From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 22:32:14 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:32:14 -0700 Subject: playing flash content on my MacBook Pro. In-Reply-To: <7115B695-3F38-4D3F-878C-818F7BD7036B@mac.com> References: <004483952D6344999F1B4DF7A01AFC40@MainComputer> <7115B695-3F38-4D3F-878C-818F7BD7036B@mac.com> Message-ID: <4EE6B8F0-C221-4144-9D79-903C2BEE5F5A@gmail.com> When I said no you can't I was almost right. You can play flas but try stoping it or clicking buttons. I cannot find the buttons to click like on http://flipzu.com whenI want to broadcast from my computer. Take care. On Jul 15, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Jim, > > If you have a new MacBook Pro that was manufactured after Apple's decision at the end of October 2010 not to include Adobe Flash Player as part of the default installed software on the Mac, you'll have to separately install the Adobe Flash Player plugin for your browser at: > http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ > > This does not guarantee that you'll be able to accessibly play flash content on your Mac, though. And I've also read that earlier flash player versions were large battery drains when installed on the Macbook Air models, but that this is no longer as true of recent versions. (Near the time that Apple announced their decision not to include Flash by default, Ars Technica independently published a review of the 11" Macbook Air, and included their discovery that with Flash installed the battery life was reduced from six hours to four hours. A few other columns reported similar results for the 13" Macbook Air.) > > I'd suggest that if you do have Flash installed, you might at least want to get the Click-to-Flash Safari extension, so you can block annoying flash-based ads automatically, and only display flash content of your choosing. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 06:44, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> I don't appear to be able to play the flash content on my mac. Any help would be appreciated all over the place. >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 00:15:28 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:15:28 -0700 Subject: a cursory glance at dar.fm Message-ID: <931B9317-9038-4610-8BD4-8EA836D90D4B@gmail.com> Well ll I am taking a look at dar.mf and mp3tunes.com. I can't figure out how to record a show even when I choose one and I can't log in to mp3tunes.com with my dar.fm account as it won't let me. it says the 10 gigs plan is only for envites. So far I am not impressed. Did I miss a step here? Using safari of corse to try and do all of this. tAke care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 00:19:15 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:19:15 +0100 Subject: Roxio Toast titanium, is it accessible or not? In-Reply-To: References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <859533D2-7168-4A94-A51A-40AA1CB688DE@mac-access.net> Hello Esther You're correct. Gordon has been using Toast since 2006 and in those days it was fine. But now it's totally unusable for the VoiceOver user. Take my word for it, all, we own a copy so I'm not just mouthing off, I'm speaking from hands-on personal experience. Lynne On 15 Jul 2011, at 21:52, Esther wrote: Hi Jonathan, Dan, and Others, I think that Toast version 7 from 3 or 4 years ago was usable, but the successive versions got worse and worse from the point of accessibility. In version 8, some people were able to use the context menu. By version 9, I think that accessibility was pretty much gone. People who wrote to Roxio, and that included Gordon, didn't get much response about the prospects of improving VoiceOver support. From Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com Sat Jul 16 00:20:42 2011 From: Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com (Frank Ventura) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:20:42 -0400 Subject: Graphing calculator software for the Mac In-Reply-To: References: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B2C37@mail.mail.breezes.local> Message-ID: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB4B2C90@mail.mail.breezes.local> Thanks, will look into that. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:02 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Graphing calculator software for the Mac My daughter uses Mathmatica from Wolfram for most of her Calculus and physics needs in college. Is there a specific type of function you are looking for? Jonathan Cohn Jonathan C. Cohn joncohn at cox.net On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:53 PM, Frank Ventura wrote: > Hello all, can anyone recommend a graphing calculator software > packadge that runs under snow leopard? I would prefer something that > works either with Zoom or VO? > Thanks > Frank > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 01:20:52 2011 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:20:52 -0400 Subject: a cursory glance at dar.fm In-Reply-To: <931B9317-9038-4610-8BD4-8EA836D90D4B@gmail.com> References: <931B9317-9038-4610-8BD4-8EA836D90D4B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FC2630-E9AD-4F14-B8D1-59BF9C6B8767@mac-access.net> I was somehow able to record a show and have it scheduled to do so, but I don't know if I can explain the process. I searched for it and then did a lot of poking and prodding around before I somehow got it to be set up to record. It looks "promising", but I'd really have to spend time looking it over. I don't know about the MP3 Tunes site. I didn't take advantage of that special. I was curious about dar.fm only. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jul 15, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Well ll I am taking a look at dar.mf and mp3tunes.com. I can't figure out how to record a show even when I choose one and I can't log in to mp3tunes.com with my dar.fm account as it won't let me. it says the 10 gigs plan is only for envites. So far I am not impressed. Did I miss a step here? Using safari of corse to try and do all of this. > > tAke care. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 02:51:54 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:51:54 -0400 Subject: pc vs mac In-Reply-To: <2D071027-DDB4-49D9-BE46-AE1BE0142EF5@gmail.com> References: <81E8FF9DB13F4E10BA3BF664A65B6D6C@dougPC> <2D071027-DDB4-49D9-BE46-AE1BE0142EF5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4e20eeb6.8e95dc0a.1b48.1d67@mx.google.com> Sorry, Sarah, but I think that's slightly nuts. How could you not compare two products that do basically the same thing for usability? Nobody would ever suggest that except in this situation for some reason. Kevin At 01:22 PM 7/15/2011, you wrote: >One rule of thumb I always follow is do not by any means compair >the two in usability. They both will have there pros and cons. I use >both platforms but the mac does have a slightly higher lerning curve >as you *must* think outside the box for some things and use the >terminal for some things which I don't mine. I would go to my apple >store nd play wiht a machine for a while to see if you like it or >not and make your decissions from there. > >Good luck. >On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:55 AM, douglas rudolph wrote: > > > hey guys, this is probley a drawn out sort of question, but i am > seriously looking at getting a mac, since the new version to be > coming out for windows is windows 8 and it sounds to be mobile > based which is very difficult with our screen readers, and im > wondering, what are some major learning curves i wil have to learn > to be successful on the mac? > > This email may contain personal identifyable information. Copy, > relay, redistributions, and or reading of these emails is strictly > prohibited, unless you are the intended recipiant of this email, > and this intended recipiant only. If this is not the intended > recipiant, then you are requested to delete this message > immediately and notify sender. > > Douglas Rudolph > > Tel: 1306-565-2056 > > Cell: 1306-209-2823 > > Email: doug.cam3 at gmail.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > >Sarah Alawami > >If you need an edit done on a small project go to >http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to >contact me my info is below. > >MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > >website: http://music.marrie.org >Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 03:55:25 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:55:25 -0700 Subject: a cursory glance at dar.fm In-Reply-To: <45FC2630-E9AD-4F14-B8D1-59BF9C6B8767@mac-access.net> References: <931B9317-9038-4610-8BD4-8EA836D90D4B@gmail.com> <45FC2630-E9AD-4F14-B8D1-59BF9C6B8767@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I believe that they are stored at mp3tunes.com. That's whre you save yoru stuff. Now we'll see if selected shorts and car talk gets recorded on saturday lol! On Jul 15, 2011, at 5:20 PM, John Panarese wrote: > I was somehow able to record a show and have it scheduled to do so, but I don't know if I can explain the process. I searched for it and then did a lot of poking and prodding around before I somehow got it to be set up to record. It looks "promising", but I'd really have to spend time looking it over. > > I don't know about the MP3 Tunes site. I didn't take advantage of that special. I was curious about dar.fm only. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Well ll I am taking a look at dar.mf and mp3tunes.com. I can't figure out how to record a show even when I choose one and I can't log in to mp3tunes.com with my dar.fm account as it won't let me. it says the 10 gigs plan is only for envites. So far I am not impressed. Did I miss a step here? Using safari of corse to try and do all of this. >> >> tAke care. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 04:19:35 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas rudolph) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:19:35 -0600 Subject: pc vs mac In-Reply-To: <7FC7EC70-6C8E-4B4B-A73D-CC40B48B39AE@mac-access.net> References: <81E8FF9DB13F4E10BA3BF664A65B6D6C@dougPC> <7FC7EC70-6C8E-4B4B-A73D-CC40B48B39AE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: hey lynne, yeah, i know about the fact of windows not being the use of this list, but unfortunitley i will never be able to leave windows totally because of the job i am aiming at, but for personal use, i want to go mac, since it is way more of a stable os compared to the new windows, don't get me worng they are good os's, but yes, mac sees to be the way i want to go.. i just kind of want to know the basics, i know this is a comparison between the 2, but what are the differences between pages, numbers, keynote, etc compared to ms office?... i have 0 experiance, i just kinda want to know what i am up against when i go for the switch. Im seriously looking at getting myself a mac book pro, with the top for everything, all my specs will max the system for upgrades, what can i then do with the voice over on the mac? how does it work and all that..:D.. i am so curious, because we don't have an apple store near by me, it is like 8 hour drive away..lol.. and the guys who sell the apple products, well they are umm, dorks who don't kknow jack about accessibility. thank youuuu This email may contain personal identifyable information. Copy, relay, redistributions, and or reading of these emails is strictly prohibited, unless you are the intended recipiant of this email, and this intended recipiant only. If this is not the intended recipiant, then you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify sender. Douglas Rudolph Tel: 1306-565-2056 Cell: 1306-209-2823 Email: doug.cam3 at gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:37 AM Subject: Re: pc vs mac > Hello > > First, please let's stay away from the discussion of Windows; that's not > what this group is about. I understand why you mentioned it in the context > of your question and that's fine. I just wouldn't like to see a discussion > on the future of Microsoft or their products on this list. > > Here's a bit of advice for whatever it is worth for you from somebody who > has full vision; but also has a passionate interest in accessibility as I > am married to a blind person. > > First, don't draw comparisons. When you get your Mac and start using it, > forget about Windows and how everything worked. If you stop expecting > things to happen in a certain way when you perform a certain action > because that's how it is with Windows, you'll find things easier. > > OS X is quite different from Windows; but the basics of the GUI are > similar. But there are lots of things to help you with the transition and > many of them can be found on this list if, and this is important, you let > go of prejudices and preconceptions. This isn't personal comment, it is > generic. But I encourage you to make the swap. My blind husband is one of > those who have, and he is now at the level where he's heavily involved as > a professional systems administrator for a growing company which is > reliant on Macs throughout the business owing to the Mac's superiority in > the specific fields of interest and also in network performance. Gordon > now doesn't touch Windows except for the rare occasions he needs to do > Braille transcription on a large scale. > > I hope that at least some of that will help you. But please don't be > afraid to use this list to ask questions. You'll never be flamed or > ridiculed; that kind of behaviour isn't tolerated in this group. > > Lynne > > > On 15 Jul 2011, at 17:55, douglas rudolph wrote: > > hey guys, this is probley a drawn out sort of question, but i am seriously > looking at getting a mac, since the new version to be coming out for > windows is windows 8 and it sounds to be mobile based which is very > difficult with our screen readers, and im wondering, what are some major > learning curves i wil have to learn to be successful on the mac? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 04:36:08 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 04:36:08 +0100 Subject: Take Control Bookshelf Message-ID: Hello everybody I'm just writing to let those concerned know that the Take Control Bookshelf Manager is back on line now, following a significant systems upgrade. Your bookshelves are just as they were before the outage, so if you need to re-download any of the books you bought, feel free. Just to remind you, the new URL for the file manager is: please do not try to use the old URL; it won't work. If you have any questions regarding this, or any other issue which relates to any of the services and facilities which we provide, please don't hesitate to contact us; . Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 04:59:07 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 04:59:07 +0100 Subject: pc vs mac In-Reply-To: References: <81E8FF9DB13F4E10BA3BF664A65B6D6C@dougPC> <7FC7EC70-6C8E-4B4B-A73D-CC40B48B39AE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Douglas It's a little difficult to answer your question because the two systems are very different. Pages is one application which will handle Word documents and there are others. Nisus Writer Pro, for instance, handles them very well. As for Excel and Numbers, I have to say I don't use them a lot but my best advice to you would be to try and get access to a Mac if you can. The Apple Stores are alright but the problem is that you can't really get a good feel of everything because of time, the environment, etc. It'd be better if you could get a friend to take you on a tour of their Mac. Again, it is not, I believe, possible to answer the question "What's the difference between this programme, that programme and the other programme, because the first thing that has to be taken into consideration is, for those who need it, VoiceOver. Before you learn anything about utility software it would, I think, be a requirement that you learn to handle VoiceOver and the operating system. Whether or not you ditch Windows is entirely your own business. All I'm advocating is that, if you do buy a Mac, you need to be able and willing to drop any pre-conceptions, [prejudices and expectation. You also need to be prepared to start learning from the ground up because those of you who are blind or visually impaired also have the additional step of learning to use VoiceOver. Until you accomplish that, it's somewhat difficult to use utility software. On the OS X platform, you don't get the hand-holding virtual buffers and almost sheltered environment that you get under Windows. With VoiceOver you get the feel of how things really are located on screen. I've heard the OS described as an "object-orientated environment". Feel free to ask questions about the Mac, Douglas, that's what the list is here for. If you like you can write me privately; I'll be more than willing to talk to you about this off list. Then perhaps I could give you more detailed comparisons which I'm not willing to do on list because it would take me way off topic. My personal address if you want it is . Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 04:19, douglas rudolph wrote: ? yeah, i know about the fact of windows not being the use of this list, but unfortunitley i will never be able to leave windows totally because of the job i am aiming at, but for personal use, i want to go mac, since it is way more of a stable os compared to the new windows, don't get me worng they are good os's, but yes, mac sees to be the way i want to go.. i just kind of want to know the basics, i know this is a comparison between the 2, but what are the differences between pages, numbers, keynote, etc compared to ms office?... i have 0 experiance, i just kinda want to know what i am up against when i go for the switch. Im seriously looking at getting myself a mac book pro, with the top for everything, all my specs will max the system for upgrades, what can i then do with the voice over on the mac? how does it work and all that..:D.. i am so curious, because we don't have an apple store near by me, it is like 8 hour drive away..lol.. and the guys who sell the apple products, well they are umm, dorks who don't kknow jack about accessibility. thank youuuu From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 04:04:33 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:04:33 -0400 Subject: a cursory glance at dar.fm In-Reply-To: References: <931B9317-9038-4610-8BD4-8EA836D90D4B@gmail.com> <45FC2630-E9AD-4F14-B8D1-59BF9C6B8767@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <673459D6-1D22-4424-9F49-4C98D65A2825@gmail.com> YOu are aware that Selected Shorts is available as a podcast feed right? I regularly get it via iTunes. Jonathan On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I believe that they are stored at mp3tunes.com. That's whre you save yoru stuff. Now we'll see if selected shorts and car talk gets recorded on saturday lol! > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 5:20 PM, John Panarese wrote: > >> I was somehow able to record a show and have it scheduled to do so, but I don't know if I can explain the process. I searched for it and then did a lot of poking and prodding around before I somehow got it to be set up to record. It looks "promising", but I'd really have to spend time looking it over. >> >> I don't know about the MP3 Tunes site. I didn't take advantage of that special. I was curious about dar.fm only. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Jul 15, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Well ll I am taking a look at dar.mf and mp3tunes.com. I can't figure out how to record a show even when I choose one and I can't log in to mp3tunes.com with my dar.fm account as it won't let me. it says the 10 gigs plan is only for envites. So far I am not impressed. Did I miss a step here? Using safari of corse to try and do all of this. >>> >>> tAke care. >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From nallan at wdev.net Sat Jul 16 05:32:25 2011 From: nallan at wdev.net (Nick Allan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:32:25 +1000 Subject: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover Message-ID: <000901cc4371$5eea98a0$1cbfc9e0$@wdev.net> Hi all Can anyone explain to me how I can delete an app in itunes According to what I've read, I choose the apps item in the sources control. Find the app in the apps grid and for a mouse user ctrl+rightclick. Which brings up a menu that has delete on it. I'm not sure exactly what I do with voiceover to get this menu to pop up. I've tried vo+shift+m to use the shortcut key, but it doesn't activate. Any suggestions are welcome. Regards Nick From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 05:50:04 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 05:50:04 +0100 Subject: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover In-Reply-To: <000901cc4371$5eea98a0$1cbfc9e0$@wdev.net> References: <000901cc4371$5eea98a0$1cbfc9e0$@wdev.net> Message-ID: <2C71FAC0-CD62-4909-9C33-15F6BFB32465@mac-access.net> Hello Nik Go to the Apps tab in the main source list. Then move to the next table on the right which contains the list of Apps in your library. Highlight the one to delete and press Command+Backspace or just backspace (Delete). You will be prompted to delete it or keep the file. When your iPhone is synced next time the app will be gone. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 05:32, Nick Allan wrote: Hi all Can anyone explain to me how I can delete an app in itunes According to what I've read, I choose the apps item in the sources control. Find the app in the apps grid and for a mouse user ctrl+rightclick. Which brings up a menu that has delete on it. I'm not sure exactly what I do with voiceover to get this menu to pop up. I've tried vo+shift+m to use the shortcut key, but it doesn't activate. Any suggestions are welcome. Regards Nick <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From nallan at wdev.net Sat Jul 16 06:34:52 2011 From: nallan at wdev.net (Nick Allan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:34:52 +1000 Subject: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover In-Reply-To: <2C71FAC0-CD62-4909-9C33-15F6BFB32465@mac-access.net> References: <000901cc4371$5eea98a0$1cbfc9e0$@wdev.net> <2C71FAC0-CD62-4909-9C33-15F6BFB32465@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <000001cc437a$17559ea0$4600dbe0$@wdev.net> Hi Lynne HMMM, It just beeps at me as though its not a valid command. When you say "highlight" are you talking about putting the vo cursor on the app in the grid that I want to delete? Regards Nick -----Original Message----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith [mailto:lynne at mac-access.net] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 2:50 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover Hello Nik Go to the Apps tab in the main source list. Then move to the next table on the right which contains the list of Apps in your library. Highlight the one to delete and press Command+Backspace or just backspace (Delete). You will be prompted to delete it or keep the file. When your iPhone is synced next time the app will be gone. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 05:32, Nick Allan wrote: Hi all Can anyone explain to me how I can delete an app in itunes According to what I've read, I choose the apps item in the sources control. Find the app in the apps grid and for a mouse user ctrl+rightclick. Which brings up a menu that has delete on it. I'm not sure exactly what I do with voiceover to get this menu to pop up. I've tried vo+shift+m to use the shortcut key, but it doesn't activate. Any suggestions are welcome. Regards Nick <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From nallan at wdev.net Sat Jul 16 06:41:37 2011 From: nallan at wdev.net (Nick Allan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:41:37 +1000 Subject: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover In-Reply-To: <000001cc437a$17559ea0$4600dbe0$@wdev.net> References: <000901cc4371$5eea98a0$1cbfc9e0$@wdev.net> <2C71FAC0-CD62-4909-9C33-15F6BFB32465@mac-access.net> <000001cc437a$17559ea0$4600dbe0$@wdev.net> Message-ID: <000201cc437b$093ef0e0$1bbcd2a0$@wdev.net> Ah, it seems the command doesn't work in a grid view, but does in a list view. Thanks for the help. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Nick Allan [mailto:nallan at wdev.net] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 3:35 PM To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover Hi Lynne HMMM, It just beeps at me as though its not a valid command. When you say "highlight" are you talking about putting the vo cursor on the app in the grid that I want to delete? Regards Nick -----Original Message----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith [mailto:lynne at mac-access.net] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 2:50 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover Hello Nik Go to the Apps tab in the main source list. Then move to the next table on the right which contains the list of Apps in your library. Highlight the one to delete and press Command+Backspace or just backspace (Delete). You will be prompted to delete it or keep the file. When your iPhone is synced next time the app will be gone. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 05:32, Nick Allan wrote: Hi all Can anyone explain to me how I can delete an app in itunes According to what I've read, I choose the apps item in the sources control. Find the app in the apps grid and for a mouse user ctrl+rightclick. Which brings up a menu that has delete on it. I'm not sure exactly what I do with voiceover to get this menu to pop up. I've tried vo+shift+m to use the shortcut key, but it doesn't activate. Any suggestions are welcome. Regards Nick <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 06:51:59 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 06:51:59 +0100 Subject: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover In-Reply-To: <000001cc437a$17559ea0$4600dbe0$@wdev.net> References: <000901cc4371$5eea98a0$1cbfc9e0$@wdev.net> <2C71FAC0-CD62-4909-9C33-15F6BFB32465@mac-access.net> <000001cc437a$17559ea0$4600dbe0$@wdev.net> Message-ID: Hello Nick No. I just tried using unmodified arrow keys but actually if you interact with the table and use the VO cursor it should also work I think. But that's how I do it here, with and without VO. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 06:34, Nick Allan wrote: Hi Lynne HMMM, It just beeps at me as though its not a valid command. When you say "highlight" are you talking about putting the vo cursor on the app in the grid that I want to delete? Regards Nick -----Original Message----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith [mailto:lynne at mac-access.net] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 2:50 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover Hello Nik Go to the Apps tab in the main source list. Then move to the next table on the right which contains the list of Apps in your library. Highlight the one to delete and press Command+Backspace or just backspace (Delete). You will be prompted to delete it or keep the file. When your iPhone is synced next time the app will be gone. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 05:32, Nick Allan wrote: Hi all Can anyone explain to me how I can delete an app in itunes According to what I've read, I choose the apps item in the sources control. Find the app in the apps grid and for a mouse user ctrl+rightclick. Which brings up a menu that has delete on it. I'm not sure exactly what I do with voiceover to get this menu to pop up. I've tried vo+shift+m to use the shortcut key, but it doesn't activate. Any suggestions are welcome. Regards Nick <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 06:54:02 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 06:54:02 +0100 Subject: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover In-Reply-To: <000201cc437b$093ef0e0$1bbcd2a0$@wdev.net> References: <000901cc4371$5eea98a0$1cbfc9e0$@wdev.net> <2C71FAC0-CD62-4909-9C33-15F6BFB32465@mac-access.net> <000001cc437a$17559ea0$4600dbe0$@wdev.net> <000201cc437b$093ef0e0$1bbcd2a0$@wdev.net> Message-ID: Hello again Nick I never thought of that, I'm sorry about that. We tend to use list views all the time because they're easier for Gordon with VO. I just didn't think about the view change. But I'm glad you have it working now. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 06:41, Nick Allan wrote: Ah, it seems the command doesn't work in a grid view, but does in a list view. Thanks for the help. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Nick Allan [mailto:nallan at wdev.net] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 3:35 PM To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover Hi Lynne HMMM, It just beeps at me as though its not a valid command. When you say "highlight" are you talking about putting the vo cursor on the app in the grid that I want to delete? Regards Nick -----Original Message----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith [mailto:lynne at mac-access.net] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 2:50 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover Hello Nik Go to the Apps tab in the main source list. Then move to the next table on the right which contains the list of Apps in your library. Highlight the one to delete and press Command+Backspace or just backspace (Delete). You will be prompted to delete it or keep the file. When your iPhone is synced next time the app will be gone. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 05:32, Nick Allan wrote: Hi all Can anyone explain to me how I can delete an app in itunes According to what I've read, I choose the apps item in the sources control. Find the app in the apps grid and for a mouse user ctrl+rightclick. Which brings up a menu that has delete on it. I'm not sure exactly what I do with voiceover to get this menu to pop up. I've tried vo+shift+m to use the shortcut key, but it doesn't activate. Any suggestions are welcome. Regards Nick <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Sat Jul 16 08:38:52 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Crazy Guy) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:38:52 +0200 Subject: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover In-Reply-To: <000201cc437b$093ef0e0$1bbcd2a0$@wdev.net> References: <000901cc4371$5eea98a0$1cbfc9e0$@wdev.net> <2C71FAC0-CD62-4909-9C33-15F6BFB32465@mac-access.net> <000001cc437a$17559ea0$4600dbe0$@wdev.net> <000201cc437b$093ef0e0$1bbcd2a0$@wdev.net> Message-ID: <155E2AEE-E5F0-4877-B1D3-50B7C0EDA335@econetmail.com> Howdy, well, since it worked for you, take this message for completeness's sake: after all, this is how I do it most of the time. Alternatively, you can do it the safe way by deleting the app from the iPhone and not from your ITunes Library. While your device is connected (let's say an iPhone in this case), in the Sources table choose your device. Select the "Apps" radio button from the list of items for sync, then interact with the Scroll area. you will see a list of all your apps: all apps installed on your device will be checked. Just interact with the list and using your arrow keys, unselect those apps you don't want on the device. then stop the interaction and interact with the Capacity Bar section and choose "Apply" button. iTunes will ask you whether you are sure that you would like to remove the apps you just unselected. press the Yes button and when the sync is done, the apps will be deleted from the iPhone but still in your library. this has the added advantage that whenever you want to reinstall the program, you don't have to re-download it from the App store. Good Luck, Ishe On 16 Jul,2011, at 7:41 AM, Nick Allan wrote: > Ah, it seems the command doesn't work in a grid view, but does in a list > view. > Thanks for the help. > > Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Allan [mailto:nallan at wdev.net] > Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 3:35 PM > To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' > Subject: RE: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover > > Hi Lynne > HMMM, It just beeps at me as though its not a valid command. When you say > "highlight" are you talking about putting the vo cursor on the app in the > grid that I want to delete? > > Regards Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith [mailto:lynne at mac-access.net] > Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 2:50 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover > > Hello Nik > > Go to the Apps tab in the main source list. Then move to the next table on > the right which contains the list of Apps in your library. Highlight the one > to delete and press Command+Backspace or just backspace (Delete). You will > be prompted to delete it or keep the file. When your iPhone is synced next > time the app will be gone. > > Lynne > > On 16 Jul 2011, at 05:32, Nick Allan wrote: > > Hi all > > Can anyone explain to me how I can delete an app in itunes > > According to what I've read, I choose the apps item in the sources control. > Find the app in the apps grid and for a mouse user ctrl+rightclick. Which > brings up a menu that has delete on it. > > I'm not sure exactly what I do with voiceover to get this menu to pop up. > I've tried vo+shift+m to use the shortcut key, but it doesn't activate. > > Any suggestions are welcome. > > > > Regards Nick > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sat Jul 16 10:01:35 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:01:35 +1000 Subject: Roxio Toast titanium, is it accessible or not? In-Reply-To: <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> is there any software to do this at all? it seems every thing i try just isn't going to work with vo just so anoying and frustrating On 16/07/2011, at 4:28 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Jonathan > > We have Toast 10 here and I can assure you it isn't accessible for the most part. > > Lynne > > On 15 Jul 2011, at 19:07, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > That is sad. Apple lists Toast as accessible on > http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/applications.html > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Jul 16 10:06:18 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:06:18 +0100 Subject: Roxio Toast titanium, is it accessible or not? In-Reply-To: <859533D2-7168-4A94-A51A-40AA1CB688DE@mac-access.net> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <859533D2-7168-4A94-A51A-40AA1CB688DE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3ED32FF6-5DD7-4E49-AF60-1C759EEEAEA4@blueyonder.co.uk> That is a real shame, as I used to love Toast, but have very little need for it now. I just tend to do everything via Disk Utility. On 16 Jul 2011, at 00:19, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Esther > > You're correct. Gordon has been using Toast since 2006 and in those days it was fine. But now it's totally unusable for the VoiceOver user. Take my word for it, all, we own a copy so I'm not just mouthing off, I'm speaking from hands-on personal experience. > > Lynne > > On 15 Jul 2011, at 21:52, Esther wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, Dan, and Others, > > I think that Toast version 7 from 3 or 4 years ago was usable, but the successive versions got worse and worse from the point of accessibility. In version 8, some people were able to use the context menu. By version 9, I think that accessibility was pretty much gone. People who wrote to Roxio, and that included Gordon, didn't get much response about the prospects of improving VoiceOver support. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Sat Jul 16 11:49:15 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:49:15 +1000 Subject: iPhone audio question. In-Reply-To: <6F447653-81E0-4699-B366-A2ED451D6390@me.com> References: <6F447653-81E0-4699-B366-A2ED451D6390@me.com> Message-ID: <07059D6B-AD6D-4DA3-BEBD-387659630C28@me.com> I've just gone through the same situation. Ended up getting a refund and also an ecoopon to use in apple's online store. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 15/07/2011, at 11:24 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello Jim, > > By any chance, are these the stock earbuds with built-in microphone that came with your iPhone? If yes, is the quieter bud the one on the end of the wire with the microphone in it? I experienced the same issue with 2 sets of these earbuds. My guess is that the wire on the microphone side is susceptible to wear and tear. At first I had assumed one of my audio settings had gone funky but after checking everything, resetting the iphone, and finding that 3 other pairs of standard headphones and buds worked just fine, I took the malfunctioning Apple buds to an Apple store and they replaced them "under warranty" no questions asked. > > HTH, > Bryan > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> For some reason, the left ear bud of my headphones is louder than the right one when playing audio. 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For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From cjsims at me.com Sat Jul 16 11:56:48 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:56:48 +1000 Subject: delete iphone apps in itunes with voiceover In-Reply-To: <000901cc4371$5eea98a0$1cbfc9e0$@wdev.net> References: <000901cc4371$5eea98a0$1cbfc9e0$@wdev.net> Message-ID: Hi. I've just used the CMD option Backspace key comnination which works fine. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 16/07/2011, at 2:32 PM, Nick Allan wrote: > Hi all > > Can anyone explain to me how I can delete an app in itunes > > According to what I've read, I choose the apps item in the sources control. > Find the app in the apps grid and for a mouse user ctrl+rightclick. Which > brings up a menu that has delete on it. > > I'm not sure exactly what I do with voiceover to get this menu to pop up. > I've tried vo+shift+m to use the shortcut key, but it doesn't activate. > > Any suggestions are welcome. > > > > Regards Nick > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 12:01:48 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:01:48 +0100 Subject: CD/DVD Burning Software; [Was Re: Roxio Toast titanium, is it accessible or not?] In-Reply-To: <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> Hello Krystal Have you tried Simply Burns? That is a freeware CD/DVD writing app for the Mac. If you're looking for something fully comprehensive you could have a look at Newtech Info Systems "Dragon Burn". Or else there is NCH Software's "Express Burn". So actually the answer to your question is yes; there is software around if you look. If you need URL's and can't find them, let me know. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 10:01, krystal watson wrote: is there any software to do this at all? it seems every thing i try just isn't going to work with vo just so anoying and frustrating On 16/07/2011, at 4:28 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Jonathan > > We have Toast 10 here and I can assure you it isn't accessible for the most part. > > Lynne > > On 15 Jul 2011, at 19:07, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > That is sad. Apple lists Toast as accessible on > http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/applications.html > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jul 16 12:10:31 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:10:31 +1000 Subject: Ccleaner Message-ID: Hi! For those who use Windows you will be I'm sure aware of the excellent cleaning utility called CCleaner which cleans up redundant files, registry, allows the user to manage startup files and so on. I was pleased to discover that a version of CCleaner is now in beta testing for the Mac and you can find it at I've been looking at the beta version and its nicely accessible though very basic at this time, seems you can only get CCleaner to clean up your hard drive but it does the job well even supplying the user with a very detailed log of its every action. CCleaner is one of those products which is free and relies on public support through donations and in my view its well worth supporting. From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 12:18:42 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:18:42 +0100 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> Hello Dane I'm curious as to what this thing actually cleans up that the OS itself does not when it does its housework. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:10, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? I was pleased to discover that a version of CCleaner is now in beta testing for the Mac and you can find it at I've been looking at the beta version and its nicely accessible though very basic at this time, seems you can only get CCleaner to clean up your hard drive but it does the job well even supplying the user with a very detailed log of its every action. CCleaner is one of those products which is free and relies on public support through donations and in my view its well worth supporting. From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jul 16 12:22:21 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:22:21 +1000 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> References: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> I short it cleans up what you tell it to clean, caches, temp files, Internet History, Recent file caches, empties trash etc, take a look at On 16/07/2011, at 9:18 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > I'm curious as to what this thing actually cleans up that the OS itself does not when it does its housework. > > Lynne > > On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:10, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > ? I was pleased to discover that a version of CCleaner is now in beta testing for the Mac and you can find it at > > I've been looking at the beta version and its nicely accessible though very basic at this time, seems you can only get CCleaner to clean up your hard drive but it does the job well even supplying the user with a very detailed log of its every action. > > CCleaner is one of those products which is free and relies on public support through donations and in my view its well worth supporting. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 12:26:33 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:26:33 +0100 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> References: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <6DBE6930-4E45-4CAB-B38E-8C7F60ABF94B@mac-access.net> Hello Dane So in other words, it does exactly the same as Cocktail does. I noticed that the MS version is ?20.00 GBP so I would think they'll charge for the Mac version when it goes out of beta. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:22, Dane Trethowan wrote: I short it cleans up what you tell it to clean, caches, temp files, Internet History, Recent file caches, empties trash etc, take a look at From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sat Jul 16 12:28:27 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:28:27 +0100 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: <6DBE6930-4E45-4CAB-B38E-8C7F60ABF94B@mac-access.net> References: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> <6DBE6930-4E45-4CAB-B38E-8C7F60ABF94B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1CCAD758-0977-4DB6-969B-08CD667CC822@computing.dcu.ie> Lynne as far as I'm aware, CCleaner is free. I'll grant you it's about 6 months since I downloaded it, and things may have changed, but I certainly didn't pay for it, and didn't get a pirate copy either! :-) On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:26, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > So in other words, it does exactly the same as Cocktail does. I noticed that the MS version is ?20.00 GBP so I would think they'll charge for the Mac version when it goes out of beta. > > Lynne > > On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:22, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > I short it cleans up what you tell it to clean, caches, temp files, Internet History, Recent file caches, empties trash etc, take a look at > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jul 16 12:29:34 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:29:34 +1000 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: <6DBE6930-4E45-4CAB-B38E-8C7F60ABF94B@mac-access.net> References: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> <6DBE6930-4E45-4CAB-B38E-8C7F60ABF94B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: No, at present Cocktail is more of a maintenance utility and actually in my view its not as easy to get around. Whether CCleaner for Mac will get to the point of Cocktail in terms of functionality? Well who knows. Yep, there is a version of CCleaner which can be purchased but you can also take the option of making a donation towards the software though at the price you quoted? Well, may as well give up donating and just buy the thing. On 16/07/2011, at 9:26 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > So in other words, it does exactly the same as Cocktail does. I noticed that the MS version is ?20.00 GBP so I would think they'll charge for the Mac version when it goes out of beta. > > Lynne > > On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:22, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > I short it cleans up what you tell it to clean, caches, temp files, Internet History, Recent file caches, empties trash etc, take a look at > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jul 16 12:30:56 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:30:56 +1000 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: <1CCAD758-0977-4DB6-969B-08CD667CC822@computing.dcu.ie> References: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> <6DBE6930-4E45-4CAB-B38E-8C7F60ABF94B@mac-access.net> <1CCAD758-0977-4DB6-969B-08CD667CC822@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Yep the standard edition is still free though if you give a donation you get better tech support etc, there's a professional version available for purchase but this is for the Windows version only as far as I know and its still early days for the Mac version. On 16/07/2011, at 9:28 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Lynne as far as I'm aware, CCleaner is free. I'll grant you it's about 6 months since I downloaded it, and things may have changed, but I certainly didn't pay for it, and didn't get a pirate copy either! :-) > On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:26, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Dane >> >> So in other words, it does exactly the same as Cocktail does. I noticed that the MS version is ?20.00 GBP so I would think they'll charge for the Mac version when it goes out of beta. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:22, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> I short it cleans up what you tell it to clean, caches, temp files, Internet History, Recent file caches, empties trash etc, take a look at >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 12:37:29 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:37:29 +0100 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: <1CCAD758-0977-4DB6-969B-08CD667CC822@computing.dcu.ie> References: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> <6DBE6930-4E45-4CAB-B38E-8C7F60ABF94B@mac-access.net> <1CCAD758-0977-4DB6-969B-08CD667CC822@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello Donal The Windows version if ?19.99 GBP. The first option I was given when I clicked the download link was "Buy on line". So that must have changed. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:28, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Lynne as far as I'm aware, CCleaner is free. I'll grant you it's about 6 months since I downloaded it, and things may have changed, but I certainly didn't pay for it, and didn't get a pirate copy either! :-) From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 12:42:18 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:42:18 +0100 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: References: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> <6DBE6930-4E45-4CAB-B38E-8C7F60ABF94B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Dane We never had any problem with Cocktail. And actually I don't remember Gordon finding it difficult to navigate. But it does clean caches, logs history and quite a lot more. That's part of maintenance, is it not? As for the other version well fair enough; it's off topic for this group anyway, :) but let's be fair and give it a look. I just downloaded it. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:29, Dane Trethowan wrote: No, at present Cocktail is more of a maintenance utility and actually in my view its not as easy to get around. Whether CCleaner for Mac will get to the point of Cocktail in terms of functionality? Well who knows. From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jul 16 12:46:51 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:46:51 +1000 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: References: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> <6DBE6930-4E45-4CAB-B38E-8C7F60ABF94B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8A596F9A-C101-47EC-A6ED-5E6578E35559@internode.on.net> Take a look at CCleaner and you'll see the difference when I speak of navigation straight away, a more straight-forward interface, no toolbars to deal with, nicely labelled buttons and tabs, tables etc. There are times when Cocktail can lock up with Voiceover so you don't know what's happening. As I say, CCleaner at present is pretty basic so really it can't be compared to Cocktail but all the same, the software looks nice and I hope the developers get a good demand for it so they keep developing it. On 16/07/2011, at 9:42 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > We never had any problem with Cocktail. And actually I don't remember Gordon finding it difficult to navigate. But it does clean caches, logs history and quite a lot more. That's part of maintenance, is it not? > > As for the other version well fair enough; it's off topic for this group anyway, :) but let's be fair and give it a look. I just downloaded it. > > Lynne > > On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:29, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > No, at present Cocktail is more of a maintenance utility and actually in my view its not as easy to get around. > > Whether CCleaner for Mac will get to the point of Cocktail in terms of functionality? Well who knows. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Jul 16 12:55:11 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:55:11 +0100 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> References: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <526C4511-E5DB-479D-BD06-2596ED81861B@blueyonder.co.uk> So it is like Onyx and Cocktail then? On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:22, Dane Trethowan wrote: > I short it cleans up what you tell it to clean, caches, temp files, Internet History, Recent file caches, empties trash etc, take a look at > > > On 16/07/2011, at 9:18 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Dane >> >> I'm curious as to what this thing actually cleans up that the OS itself does not when it does its housework. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:10, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> ? I was pleased to discover that a version of CCleaner is now in beta testing for the Mac and you can find it at >> >> I've been looking at the beta version and its nicely accessible though very basic at this time, seems you can only get CCleaner to clean up your hard drive but it does the job well even supplying the user with a very detailed log of its every action. >> >> CCleaner is one of those products which is free and relies on public support through donations and in my view its well worth supporting. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jul 16 12:56:54 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:56:54 +1000 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: <526C4511-E5DB-479D-BD06-2596ED81861B@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> <526C4511-E5DB-479D-BD06-2596ED81861B@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <4573FFC0-ABDE-43B4-BC34-57E513992326@internode.on.net> Not quite as comprehensive as those 2 products, not yet anyway but I hope it does get like that, very nice interface to use. On 16/07/2011, at 9:55 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > So it is like Onyx and Cocktail then? > On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:22, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> I short it cleans up what you tell it to clean, caches, temp files, Internet History, Recent file caches, empties trash etc, take a look at >> >> >> On 16/07/2011, at 9:18 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Dane >>> >>> I'm curious as to what this thing actually cleans up that the OS itself does not when it does its housework. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:10, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>> ? I was pleased to discover that a version of CCleaner is now in beta testing for the Mac and you can find it at >>> >>> I've been looking at the beta version and its nicely accessible though very basic at this time, seems you can only get CCleaner to clean up your hard drive but it does the job well even supplying the user with a very detailed log of its every action. >>> >>> CCleaner is one of those products which is free and relies on public support through donations and in my view its well worth supporting. >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jul 16 12:57:40 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:57:40 -0300 Subject: access apps question. Message-ID: <7F22C8A01B834B0F869A8FC1ABCD4BB9@MainComputer> Hi Folks: Two questions: 1. Is there an accessible Bible app out there for the Mac that can be used for studdy purposes and not just for continuous reading? 2. Is there an app out there that would allow one to use an iphone as a wireless receiver to be used in real time with a wireless keyboard? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6298 (20110715) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sat Jul 16 12:57:55 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:57:55 +0100 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> References: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <74FBB151-9204-445D-948A-8C55C5BC611A@googlemail.com> i use onix it does the job for me very nice peace of softwhere. Ian McNamara From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 13:09:35 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:09:35 +0100 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: <8A596F9A-C101-47EC-A6ED-5E6578E35559@internode.on.net> References: <8B1DD53C-DBE1-46C4-A674-D9A904AE73CF@mac-access.net> <76B33A01-DABD-4155-8A9E-2192ED8588E0@internode.on.net> <6DBE6930-4E45-4CAB-B38E-8C7F60ABF94B@mac-access.net> <8A596F9A-C101-47EC-A6ED-5E6578E35559@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <12232397-B09A-4B68-80D2-37B6AFEB9C93@mac-access.net> Hello Dane Yes, I'm not pre-judging, and I am going to look at it. I've never encountered the problems you outline with Cocktail to be honest. But you'd be correct in saying that I do use it without VoiceOver so it isn't really the same. Lynne On 16 Jul 2011, at 12:46, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? Take a look at CCleaner and you'll see the difference when I speak of navigation straight away, a more straight-forward interface, no toolbars to deal with, nicely labelled buttons and tabs, tables etc. ? There are times when Cocktail can lock up with Voiceover so you don't know what's happening. From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jul 16 14:00:55 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:00:55 +1000 Subject: World Clock app for Ipad Message-ID: Hi! Been using this for quite some time so was most interested when a comprehensive update for the World Clock app for Ipad was released and the developer has overwhelmed his customer base with some new and impressive features. One of my favorites is the ability to set alarms for your world clocks. For example suppose you're talking to someone in New York on Skype and they ask you to ring back at 4 there time in the afternoon, you know how New Yorkers believe the world revolves around them , all you have to do is select New York from the World Clocks and set an alarm for 4 PM so you don't even have to worry about how many hours behind your time zone New York just happens to be. Talk about some really nifty features in this app, bring up multiple world clocks on the screen and do a "compare" between each, bring up maps to show your location in relation to another world clock - don't know how this would work as I obviously can't see the map - and a whole host of background themes to boot. You'll find the World Clock app in the obvious place, at the Itunes store and its about $02.00. Sent from my iPad From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sat Jul 16 14:44:44 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:44:44 +0100 Subject: World Clock app for Ipad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2CBDCE84-1F76-446F-B9B8-1A225CC1D4C5@computing.dcu.ie> Dane, Thanks for posting this. Presume there's an iPhone equivalent? D?nal On 16 Jul 2011, at 14:00, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Been using this for quite some time so was most interested when a comprehensive update for the World Clock app for Ipad was released and the developer has overwhelmed his customer base with some new and impressive features. > > One of my favorites is the ability to set alarms for your world clocks. For example suppose you're talking to someone in New York on Skype and they ask you to ring back at 4 there time in the afternoon, you know how New Yorkers believe the world revolves around them , all you have to do is select New York from the World Clocks and set an alarm for 4 PM so you don't even have to worry about how many hours behind your time zone New York just happens to be. > > Talk about some really nifty features in this app, bring up multiple world clocks on the screen and do a "compare" between each, bring up maps to show your location in relation to another world clock - don't know how this would work as I obviously can't see the map - and a whole host of background themes to boot. > > You'll find the World Clock app in the obvious place, at the Itunes store and its about $02.00. > > > > Sent from my iPad > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Sat Jul 16 15:04:51 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Crazy Guy) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:04:51 +0200 Subject: access apps question. In-Reply-To: <7F22C8A01B834B0F869A8FC1ABCD4BB9@MainComputer> References: <7F22C8A01B834B0F869A8FC1ABCD4BB9@MainComputer> Message-ID: Howdy, I will only answer the first question on the accessible Bible study program. Try Eloquent which you can get from this page: http://www.macsword.com/download/ it is fully accessible and can host the Bible text, commentary, dictionaries and any other generic book. Good luck, On 16 Jul,2011, at 1:57 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Two questions: > > 1. Is there an accessible Bible app out there for the Mac that can be used for studdy purposes and not just for continuous reading? > > 2. Is there an app out there that would allow one to use an iphone as a wireless receiver to be used in real time with a wireless keyboard? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6298 (20110715) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Sat Jul 16 15:07:48 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Crazy Guy) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:07:48 +0200 Subject: Ccleaner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Howdy, Thanks for the info. I had been using this program on Windows for a long time, and am glad that it is now being ported to Mac. I just tried it and am glad so far by what I am seeing. Cheers, On 16 Jul,2011, at 1:10 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > For those who use Windows you will be I'm sure aware of the excellent cleaning utility called CCleaner which cleans up redundant files, registry, allows the user to manage startup files and so on. > > I was pleased to discover that a version of CCleaner is now in beta testing for the Mac and you can find it at > > I've been looking at the beta version and its nicely accessible though very basic at this time, seems you can only get CCleaner to clean up your hard drive but it does the job well even supplying the user with a very detailed log of its every action. > > CCleaner is one of those products which is free and relies on public support through donations and in my view its well worth supporting. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 17:18:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:18:58 -0700 Subject: a cursory glance at dar.fm In-Reply-To: <673459D6-1D22-4424-9F49-4C98D65A2825@gmail.com> References: <931B9317-9038-4610-8BD4-8EA836D90D4B@gmail.com> <45FC2630-E9AD-4F14-B8D1-59BF9C6B8767@mac-access.net> <673459D6-1D22-4424-9F49-4C98D65A2825@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8EA0B0E0-C392-4385-A620-CE09A37CB48B@gmail.com> I am. but I want to try this as well. you know for when I do a lot of traveling and I can't take macky mac with me lol! You only get 2 gigs of space though Ah well. Take care. On Jul 15, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > YOu are aware that Selected Shorts is available as a podcast feed right? I regularly get it via iTunes. > > Jonathan > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I believe that they are stored at mp3tunes.com. That's whre you save yoru stuff. Now we'll see if selected shorts and car talk gets recorded on saturday lol! >> >> On Jul 15, 2011, at 5:20 PM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> I was somehow able to record a show and have it scheduled to do so, but I don't know if I can explain the process. I searched for it and then did a lot of poking and prodding around before I somehow got it to be set up to record. It looks "promising", but I'd really have to spend time looking it over. >>> >>> I don't know about the MP3 Tunes site. I didn't take advantage of that special. I was curious about dar.fm only. >>> >>> Take Care >>> John Panarese >>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 15, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Well ll I am taking a look at dar.mf and mp3tunes.com. I can't figure out how to record a show even when I choose one and I can't log in to mp3tunes.com with my dar.fm account as it won't let me. it says the 10 gigs plan is only for envites. So far I am not impressed. Did I miss a step here? Using safari of corse to try and do all of this. >>>> >>>> tAke care. >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 18:28:22 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:28:22 -0700 Subject: I'll call you back SMS Message-ID: <5443EE0B-1041-404E-84C0-9FF49D535E4E@gmail.com> I have not tried this but I might do it as a test to see if it really works. I'll call you back SMS If you are busy and can't take an incoming call, or you are already in a call and can't take the second call, you can press a shortcut to send an SMS with a preset 'I'll call you back' message to the person calling you. Simply press Volume down + Sleep button while the phone rings (again, this can be done to an new incoming call or when you are already having a phone conversation and a second person is trying to reach you), then it will confirm the phone number, and just have to press send. The number is already in there, but the numeric keyboard comes up in order to change the recipient or make some modification to the number. [crarko adds: This has been tested in iOS 4.3.3 and 3.1.3.] From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 18:29:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:29:18 -0700 Subject: Silencing sound when choosing an iOS Alarm Message-ID: <540B9964-AF88-47F9-B480-3504FB433EF8@gmail.com> sounds like a good trick as I often set my alarm in the middle of a movie or dinner. lol! Silencing sound when choosing an iOS Alarm When you choose the sound for a new alarm that you are creating in the Clock application of iOS, I used to quickly select the back button to silence the sound since it always plays a preview of it. This is especially important if you have a significant other sleeping right next to you. However this still will play the sound for about half a second or so, but there is an easy work-around. Simply double tap the alarm sound you are choosing rather than single tap. Double tapping the tone of choice will select it but not play the audio at all. [crarko adds: It does indeed work.] From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 18:38:24 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:38:24 -0700 Subject: Daily Tip: How to download previously purchased apps, songs, and books in iTunes Message-ID: <0F703C66-389B-4E68-A9FA-4771F4F8B4CC@gmail.com> Thought this was interesting? I don't know if it is usable with screen readers. Someone verify this? Daily Tip: How to download previously purchased apps, songs, and books in iTunes Heard about Apple?s iCloud beta and wondering how you can use it to download all your previously purchased apps, songs, and books in iTunes? Well you?re in luck, because with iTunes 10.3, it?s easy (although music is currently limited to US users only. Sigh.) Read on to find out how, after the break. [Inside iTunes] Here?s how to re-download your apps, music, and books: ? Launch iTunes on your Mac or PC ? Find the Quick Links section in the store toolbar at the top right ? Click on the Purchased link ? Navigate through your app, music, and book purchases ? You can choose between complete purchase history for each category, or Not in my Library to see just what?s missing on your machine ? Click the iCloud button next to anything you want to pull back down to your local library, or click Download All to restore everything you?ve ever bought. Welcome to the cloud! Tips of the day will range from beginner-level 101 to advanced-level ninjary. If you already know this tip, keep the link handy as a quick way to help a friend. If you have a tip of your own you?d like to suggest, add them to the comments or send them in to dailytips at tipb.com. (If it?s especially awesome and previously unknown to us, we?ll even give ya a reward?) From skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 19:06:06 2011 From: skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com (Kliph&Sharrie) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:06:06 -0500 Subject: I'll call you back SMS In-Reply-To: <5443EE0B-1041-404E-84C0-9FF49D535E4E@gmail.com> References: <5443EE0B-1041-404E-84C0-9FF49D535E4E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <005d01cc43e3$0a249ab0$1e6dd010$@gmail.com> So do you push them at the same time, or one after the other? Have you tested it for yourself? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians Sent From my Imac -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 12:28 PM To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: I'll call you back SMS I have not tried this but I might do it as a test to see if it really works. I'll call you back SMS If you are busy and can't take an incoming call, or you are already in a call and can't take the second call, you can press a shortcut to send an SMS with a preset 'I'll call you back' message to the person calling you. Simply press Volume down + Sleep button while the phone rings (again, this can be done to an new incoming call or when you are already having a phone conversation and a second person is trying to reach you), then it will confirm the phone number, and just have to press send. The number is already in there, but the numeric keyboard comes up in order to change the recipient or make some modification to the number. [crarko adds: This has been tested in iOS 4.3.3 and 3.1.3.] <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 19:38:54 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:38:54 -0700 Subject: I'll call you back SMS In-Reply-To: <005d01cc43e3$0a249ab0$1e6dd010$@gmail.com> References: <5443EE0B-1041-404E-84C0-9FF49D535E4E@gmail.com> <005d01cc43e3$0a249ab0$1e6dd010$@gmail.com> Message-ID: You push them at the same time. Think of it as a key stroke for an iphone lol! On Jul 16, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > So do you push them at the same time, or one after the other? Have you > tested it for yourself? > > Kliphton SR > (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com > (Marriage group) http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians > Sent From my Imac > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 12:28 PM > To: mac access list iOS Accessibility > Subject: I'll call you back SMS > > I have not tried this but I might do it as a test to see if it really works. > > I'll call you back SMS > > If you are busy and can't take an incoming call, or you are already in a > call and can't take the second call, you can press a shortcut to send an SMS > with a preset 'I'll call you back' message to the person calling you. > > Simply press Volume down + Sleep button while the phone rings (again, this > can be done to an new incoming call or when you are already having a phone > conversation and a second person is trying to reach you), then it will > confirm the phone number, and just have to press send. The number is already > in there, but the numeric keyboard comes up in order to change the recipient > or make some modification to the number. > > [crarko adds: This has been tested in iOS 4.3.3 and 3.1.3.] > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 22:45:33 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:45:33 +0100 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 Versus Pages; [Revisited] Message-ID: Hello everybody I have just finally got around to playing around with Nisus Writer Pro which we upgraded a couple of weeks ago. I am now of the opinion that Nisus Writer pro definitely handles Microsoft Office documents more efficiently and effectively than does Pages. The conversion rate is far smoother, the visual output when loading a document into Nisus is far more clean than it is under Pages. And I just also tried it with VoiceOver. In the past I have noticed that there are sometimes problems when working on lengthy documents in Pages. However, I have to admit that working on the same lengthy Microsoft Office document in Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 was a totally different experience. The whole thing was far less clunky and prone to the sometimes sluggish behaviour that we have seen under Pages. So, now that we have a paid license, I have modified our system so that in the future all Microsoft doc files open with Nisus Writer Pro 2 rather than Pages. On screen the format is much much nicer under Nisus than it is under pages. So I guess the question now is what will happen when we try a Microsoft Office 2011 document under Nisus. Pages, unless I'm very much mistaken, can't handle the new format. So we'll see if Nisus can! Lynne From moriond at mac.com Sat Jul 16 22:47:12 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:47:12 -1000 Subject: Burning Audible books to cd In-Reply-To: <3BAD6ECC-D139-4BDC-9E89-AF8E6C1C90A1@softcon.com> References: <6F11CECA-0753-489A-AEFB-A277F5C1F8C1@computing.dcu.ie> <3BAD6ECC-D139-4BDC-9E89-AF8E6C1C90A1@softcon.com> Message-ID: Hi D?nal and Travis, I think I missed the first question, and I'm coming in late to this thread, but I'll add to the description Travis gave. I don't usually bother burning Audible files to audio CD unless I want to give them to someone to play in a regular audio CD player. However, if you want to burn an Audible audio CD and control the break points for each CD, you can do so by setting the "start time" and "stop time" on the Options pane of the audiobook track. I'm not sure there's any optimal way to do this. If you're using the Chapter markers in your Audible book, you can set the start or stop times to match chapter breaks, and try to fit in as many full chapters as will go into an audio CD, by checking the list of "Chapters" times on the iTunes menu bar, but these are generally too coarsely set to be useful. (And note, you have to have started playing the audiobook track in question in order for the "Chapters" menu to show up on the iTunes menu bar.) If I wanted to burn the Audible tracks to audio CDs with iTunes, I'd probably get the "RestartAt" AppleScript from Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver Downloads web page: http://web.me.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html It comes with full instructions. Then, for any track that you select in iTunes, you'll find a "RestartAt" menu option under an AppleScripts menu on your iTunes menu bar that will let you input a new starting playback time of your choice, or accept the default value. The easiest way to use this for your purposes is to assign it a keyboard shortcut under System Preferences > Keyboard under the Keyboard Shortcuts tab by choosing "Application Shortcuts" under the "Shortcuts Category" table, then pressing the "Add an Application Shortcut" button. In the dialog window, press (VO-Space) the pop up button for "All Applications" and navigate to "iTunes" (e.g., quickly press "i t u"). For the "menu title" type in "RestartAt" (without the quotation marks, but with the capital "R" and capital "A"), then type in your selected keyboard shortcut, after first making sure that this is not the same as some existing keyboard shortcut you might use in iTunes. So the way I'd do this in practice is to select my Audible track, and decide where the good break points would be in intervals of about 70 minutes. I'd use the RestartAt shortcut, and sample the track at 70 minutes. If that's at an inconvenient break point, I'd press the Command+Option keys and start tapping the left arrow key to rewind through the playing track or hold down the left arrow key to locate a good break point, then I'd fine tune it by using the RestartAt shortcut to check this is the time I want. I'd keep a TextEdit window open and Command-tab between apps to record the times I select for the break intervals. Then, when I've worked out the start and stop times I want to use. I'd set them up using "Get Info" (Command-I) on the track to enter them under the "Start Time:" and "Stop Time:" text fields of the Options tab. I'd probably just copy the last "Stop Time:" entry and paste it into "Start Time:", then Command-Tab to the TextEdit list of my break point times to copy the next "Stop Time:" and paste it into the Options tab "Stop Time:" field. Then I'd press "return" to commit my changes and close the "Get Info" window, insert my CD, and press the "Burn" button for the next burn. This takes longer to describe than it does to do. I'll just say that it's only worth doing this if you have to play the CDs in an audio CD player. If you want to transfer this or just play the CDs in another iTunes library that you can authorize for your Audible account, it's easier just to burn a data CD or DVD, because for all practical purposes you'll be able to play that on the other authorized machine, and it will take up far less space. The same data discs work for either Windows or Macs. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 14, 2011, at 18:45, Travis Siegel wrote: > When you have the audible book you want burned in a list, just vo-shift-m, then select burn selection to disk. > Be advised though, he audible method of burning is really horrible when it comes to cd breaks, since it just goes until the cd is full, then backs up 30 seconds or so, then begins again on the next disk. > I usually wind up audio hijacking the content, then creating new files to do the burning with, since then I can control where it puts the breaks. > It does take a while especially with long books though. > You could of course burn the book, then rip it back, then use a file merge/splitting program to do the job too, but I've not tried this approach. > From support at mac-access.net Sat Jul 16 22:48:13 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:48:13 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <99A48F5D-0C83-41F1-815E-F62101CA8DE8@mac-access.net> Hello everybody It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Mark Townsend to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Jul 16 23:05:45 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:05:45 +0100 Subject: Changing partitions on my internal hard disk In-Reply-To: <6181B895-6CE4-4FE6-8E47-338EA5034DC6@mac.com> References: <6181B895-6CE4-4FE6-8E47-338EA5034DC6@mac.com> Message-ID: <14DB744B-26D3-4C19-BD6B-AA493674908B@hopewell.org.uk> Hello Esther, Many thanks for the information on ipartition. It works a treat for changing the partitions on my iMac internal hard disk provided I booted my iMac from my backup disk. It will not change partitions on the disk you booted from. It works fine with VoiceOver. Best wishes.... Paul Hopewell On 14 Jul 2011, at 14:39, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I've never tried changing the partition boundaries of my main hard drive, so hopefully someone else can tell you about restrictions, but you can do this with a software tool called iPartition from Coriolis Systems, who are the same people who make iDefrag, which I've used, and which has also been used by others on this list. Here's an old post (October 2008) pulled up from a Mail Archive search of a different list written by Jacob Schmude on resizing partitions: > > Sorry I accidentally deleted the message this is in response to, but actually there is an accessible program to resize partitions on OS X. It's called iPartition. It's not free, cost is $50, but well worth it if you do a lot of work with hard drives IMHO. It's one of those programs that some features don't look accessible at first glance but there's a lot of hidden keyboard support in there. You can grab the demo and have a look at how it works, you can't commit your changes with the demo but it'll give you an idea of what to expect out of the interface. Have a look here: > http://www.coriolis-systems.com/iPartition.php > In particular, the resize feature can be done from the keyboard but this isn't explicitly stated. Highlight the partition in the partitions table and it will appear in the pie chart (yes, the pie chart is accessible, and it will give you the current partition and size). Use the left and right arrows to resize, note that arrowing to the right makes it smaller not to the left in some cases, it depends on where the partition is located on the disk and how the data is layid out on the partition. At any rate, you'll be able to see the new size as you go. Resizing of HFS+, NTFS, and FAT is supported. The usual warnings apply, have a backup of the disk in question!!! Partition resizing isn't a fault tolerant operation and even if you don't make any mistakes the unexpected can happen--the power could go out, etc. > > > I think Gordon may have experience using iPartition, too, but it's not something that I recall being actively discussed on this list, the way that iDefrag was. > > Incidentally, the Mail Archive has wonderful search features, including wild cards, search by subject, poster, date range, and more -- all with a simple syntax, so this should really make searching our own list archives very flexible. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jul 13, 2011, at 23:00, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I have two partitions on my iMac built-in hard disk. Each partition is a different level of MAC OS. I have Time Machine and SuperDuper! backups of each of these partitions on an external disk drive. >> >> I need to change the partition boundary on my iMac hard disk so that one partition gets more disk space at the expense of the other partition. At present one partition has over 100 GB of free space while the other partition has only 15 GB of free space. >> >> SO I opened the disk utility, selected my iMac disk drive and selected the partition tab. In the scroll area I could see my two partitions but disk utility would not let me change either of them. So I thought that might be reasonable as I had booted off one of the above partitions which might thus be "locked". So I then booted one of m my SuperDuper! backups on my external disk drive and again tried the disk utility. Again his refused to let me change either of the partitions on my iMac internal disk drive even though I had booted from an external disk drive. >> >> SO how can I change the way my iMac internal disk drive is partitioned? If there is no other way I suppose I could erase both partitions; create two new partitions of the desired size and then use my SuperDuper! backups to populate these two partitions. However that seems a high risk procedure not to be lightly undertaken. >> >> And here is a SuperDuper! question. Can I use SuperDuper! to restore a SuperDuper! backup to a partition whose size is different than the partition size when I did the SuperDuper! backup? >> >> Many thanks for any help. >> >> Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jekis at fastmail.us Sat Jul 16 23:18:55 2011 From: jekis at fastmail.us (Justin Ekis) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:18:55 -0700 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 Versus Pages; [Revisited] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi lynne, I'm glad to hear this about Nisus writer pro. I never did purchase Pages, I kept thinking that an update had to be coming soon and I wanted to wait for that. I'm fairly confident now that Apple will update it to Take advantage of the autosave and full screen features of Lion. Hopefully it will become even more accessible than it already is, and support word documents better. When the new version comes out, I'll try both of these for a few days. It should be interesting. Thanks for the information. Justin On Jul 16, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: Hello everybody I have just finally got around to playing around with Nisus Writer Pro which we upgraded a couple of weeks ago. I am now of the opinion that Nisus Writer pro definitely handles Microsoft Office documents more efficiently and effectively than does Pages. The conversion rate is far smoother, the visual output when loading a document into Nisus is far more clean than it is under Pages. And I just also tried it with VoiceOver. In the past I have noticed that there are sometimes problems when working on lengthy documents in Pages. However, I have to admit that working on the same lengthy Microsoft Office document in Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 was a totally different experience. The whole thing was far less clunky and prone to the sometimes sluggish behaviour that we have seen under Pages. So, now that we have a paid license, I have modified our system so that in the future all Microsoft doc files open with Nisus Writer Pro 2 rather than Pages. On screen the format is much much nicer under Nisus than it is under pages. So I guess the question now is what will happen when we try a Microsoft Office 2011 document under Nisus. Pages, unless I'm very much mistaken, can't handle the new format. So we'll see if Nisus can! Lynne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jul 16 23:37:39 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 08:37:39 +1000 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 Versus Pages; [Revisited] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8571BEAB-A879-4398-9E2B-B2ACDD3B750E@internode.on.net> I've been saying for quite some time that the operations of Pages are clunky compared to that of Nisus, I've been using Nisus products for the last 5 years, I started with Nisus Writer Express and then upgraded to Nisus Writer Pro. Nisus shouldn't have any major problems with the newest Microsoft Word format unless you're using borders and shading, has some difficulty then if the review on the software is correct. Its quite possible however that these problems may have been fixed by now. My main gripe with Pages has always been how difficult it seems to be to get anything easy done, perhaps I'm missing something but if I am? Well no one's alerted me to what I'm missing on list and again I'll repeat my example. If I want to create a numbered or bulleted list in Nisus I just select the text I want to work with or select the numbered list function I want and the task is done however with Pages? Well the menu options or options in the toolbar always seem to be greyed out. If I recall correctly a list member posted a procedure to create numbered lists in Pages which involved creating the list in Text edit and pasting into Pages? Can't see why that wouldn't work of course but I don't really think the idea practical, pain in the neck might be a better description . Sent from my iPad On 17/07/2011, at 7:45 AM, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" wrote: > Hello everybody > > I have just finally got around to playing around with Nisus Writer Pro which we upgraded a couple of weeks ago. I am now of the opinion that Nisus Writer pro definitely handles Microsoft Office documents more efficiently and effectively than does Pages. The conversion rate is far smoother, the visual output when loading a document into Nisus is far more clean than it is under Pages. And I just also tried it with VoiceOver. In the past I have noticed that there are sometimes problems when working on lengthy documents in Pages. However, I have to admit that working on the same lengthy Microsoft Office document in Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 was a totally different experience. The whole thing was far less clunky and prone to the sometimes sluggish behaviour that we have seen under Pages. So, now that we have a paid license, I have modified our system so that in the future all Microsoft doc files open with Nisus Writer Pro 2 rather than Pages. > > On screen the format is much much nicer under Nisus than it is under pages. So I guess the question now is what will happen when we try a Microsoft Office 2011 document under Nisus. Pages, unless I'm very much mistaken, can't handle the new format. So we'll see if Nisus can! > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jul 16 23:42:26 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 08:42:26 +1000 Subject: World Clock app for Ipad In-Reply-To: <2CBDCE84-1F76-446F-B9B8-1A225CC1D4C5@computing.dcu.ie> References: <2CBDCE84-1F76-446F-B9B8-1A225CC1D4C5@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: I can't answer that, the Iphone has its own World Cock App and the Ipad doesn't. Sent from my iPad On 16/07/2011, at 11:44 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Dane, > > Thanks for posting this. Presume there's an iPhone equivalent? > > D?nal > On 16 Jul 2011, at 14:00, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Been using this for quite some time so was most interested when a comprehensive update for the World Clock app for Ipad was released and the developer has overwhelmed his customer base with some new and impressive features. >> >> One of my favorites is the ability to set alarms for your world clocks. For example suppose you're talking to someone in New York on Skype and they ask you to ring back at 4 there time in the afternoon, you know how New Yorkers believe the world revolves around them , all you have to do is select New York from the World Clocks and set an alarm for 4 PM so you don't even have to worry about how many hours behind your time zone New York just happens to be. >> >> Talk about some really nifty features in this app, bring up multiple world clocks on the screen and do a "compare" between each, bring up maps to show your location in relation to another world clock - don't know how this would work as I obviously can't see the map - and a whole host of background themes to boot. >> >> You'll find the World Clock app in the obvious place, at the Itunes store and its about $02.00. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sat Jul 16 23:47:47 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:47:47 +0100 Subject: World Clock app for Ipad In-Reply-To: References: <2CBDCE84-1F76-446F-B9B8-1A225CC1D4C5@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <48DC8A12-CFCA-41F7-9FD3-2AEB807244C7@computing.dcu.ie> yes but the one on iPhone is infinitely more primitive? Not to worry was just curious. On 16 Jul 2011, at 23:42, Dane Trethowan wrote: > I can't answer that, the Iphone has its own World Cock App and the Ipad doesn't. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 16/07/2011, at 11:44 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Dane, >> >> Thanks for posting this. Presume there's an iPhone equivalent? >> >> D?nal >> On 16 Jul 2011, at 14:00, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Been using this for quite some time so was most interested when a comprehensive update for the World Clock app for Ipad was released and the developer has overwhelmed his customer base with some new and impressive features. >>> >>> One of my favorites is the ability to set alarms for your world clocks. For example suppose you're talking to someone in New York on Skype and they ask you to ring back at 4 there time in the afternoon, you know how New Yorkers believe the world revolves around them , all you have to do is select New York from the World Clocks and set an alarm for 4 PM so you don't even have to worry about how many hours behind your time zone New York just happens to be. >>> >>> Talk about some really nifty features in this app, bring up multiple world clocks on the screen and do a "compare" between each, bring up maps to show your location in relation to another world clock - don't know how this would work as I obviously can't see the map - and a whole host of background themes to boot. >>> >>> You'll find the World Clock app in the obvious place, at the Itunes store and its about $02.00. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jul 17 00:26:32 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:26:32 +1000 Subject: World Clock app for Ipad In-Reply-To: <48DC8A12-CFCA-41F7-9FD3-2AEB807244C7@computing.dcu.ie> References: <2CBDCE84-1F76-446F-B9B8-1A225CC1D4C5@computing.dcu.ie> <48DC8A12-CFCA-41F7-9FD3-2AEB807244C7@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <57093EC5-9086-4864-8599-EA90DC4E991C@internode.on.net> Yep true, well just go to the Itunes Store and do a search for World Clock, see if the app comes up for the Iphone, I don't use one of these devices any longer so I can't say whether the app is available for Iphone or not. Sent from my iPad On 17/07/2011, at 8:47 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > yes but the one on iPhone is infinitely more primitive? Not to worry was just curious. > On 16 Jul 2011, at 23:42, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> I can't answer that, the Iphone has its own World Cock App and the Ipad doesn't. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 16/07/2011, at 11:44 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Dane, >>> >>> Thanks for posting this. Presume there's an iPhone equivalent? >>> >>> D?nal >>> On 16 Jul 2011, at 14:00, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Been using this for quite some time so was most interested when a comprehensive update for the World Clock app for Ipad was released and the developer has overwhelmed his customer base with some new and impressive features. >>>> >>>> One of my favorites is the ability to set alarms for your world clocks. For example suppose you're talking to someone in New York on Skype and they ask you to ring back at 4 there time in the afternoon, you know how New Yorkers believe the world revolves around them , all you have to do is select New York from the World Clocks and set an alarm for 4 PM so you don't even have to worry about how many hours behind your time zone New York just happens to be. >>>> >>>> Talk about some really nifty features in this app, bring up multiple world clocks on the screen and do a "compare" between each, bring up maps to show your location in relation to another world clock - don't know how this would work as I obviously can't see the map - and a whole host of background themes to boot. >>>> >>>> You'll find the World Clock app in the obvious place, at the Itunes store and its about $02.00. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jul 17 01:08:23 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:08:23 +1000 Subject: Notezy and Dropbox, want to take the concept further Message-ID: Hi everyone! One of my favorite apss on the Ipad is Notezy, its a simple text editor which produces text files with the ability to upload them to your Dropbox account if you have one, obviously you can then access the file from another application say Text Edit on your Mac and make changes there, the changed file is then uploaded to your Dropbox where you have access to it through Notezy on your Ipad and that's damn useful. So to a question, does anyone know of a similar app for Ipad which does what Notezy does but handles say rtf files or any other formats? Sent from my iPad From damian.mcmorrow at me.com Sun Jul 17 01:07:30 2011 From: damian.mcmorrow at me.com (Damian McMorrow) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:07:30 +1000 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 Versus Pages; [Revisited] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85473CB0-6A7A-4215-90E4-BE194494A2FA@me.com> Hi all, Just wondering if Nissus writer pro handles tables any better with VoiceOver than does Pages as I've always found navigating tables in Pages to be painful at best. Thanks for any comments. Damian. ? On 17/07/2011, at 7:45 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I have just finally got around to playing around with Niseis Writer Pro which we upgraded a couple of weeks ago. I am now of the opinion that Niseis Writer pro definitely handles Microsoft Office documents more efficiently and effectively than does Pages. The conversion rate is far smoother, the visual output when loading a document into Nisus is far more clean than it is under Pages. And I just also tried it with VoiceOver. In the past I have noticed that there are sometimes problems when working on lengthy documents in Pages. However, I have to admit that working on the same lengthy Microsoft Office document in Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 was a totally different experience. The whole thing was far less clunky and prone to the sometimes sluggish behaviour that we have seen under Pages. So, now that we have a paid license, I have modified our system so that in the future all Microsoft doc files open with Nisus Writer Pro 2 rather than Pages. > > On screen the format is much much nicer under Nisus than it is under pages. So I guess the question now is what will happen when we try a Microsoft Office 2011 document under Nisus. Pages, unless I'm very much mistaken, can't handle the new format. So we'll see if Nisus can! > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sun Jul 17 01:37:24 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:37:24 -1000 Subject: World Clock app for Ipad In-Reply-To: <57093EC5-9086-4864-8599-EA90DC4E991C@internode.on.net> References: <2CBDCE84-1F76-446F-B9B8-1A225CC1D4C5@computing.dcu.ie> <48DC8A12-CFCA-41F7-9FD3-2AEB807244C7@computing.dcu.ie> <57093EC5-9086-4864-8599-EA90DC4E991C@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <122B1AF5-DD8B-4ABD-846D-F6E901FDA401@mac.com> Hello Dane and D?nal, I can't help but think that you are looking at different apps. The searches run in the iTunes App Store from devices (iPad vs. iPhone) bring up different result orders, according to relative popularity at the time of the search. Is it possible that the app Dane means to reference is "The World Clock" ($1.99) by Orlin Kolev? (I don't have this app, but it was the #1 World Clock App on the App Store at one time, and is a universal binary.) Here's the link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-world-clock/id368177365?mt=8 Dane can tell us whether when he activates the link from mail on his iPad, it goes to an App Store screen that indicates this app is installed on his device. The description of app features matches Dane's description about the alarm functionality, but still, there are a lot of world clock apps in the store. Cheers, Esther On Jul 16, 2011, at 13:26, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Yep true, well just go to the Itunes Store and do a search for World Clock, see if the app comes up for the Iphone, I don't use one of these devices any longer so I can't say whether the app is available for Iphone or not. > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 17/07/2011, at 8:47 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> yes but the one on iPhone is infinitely more primitive? Not to worry was just curious. >> On 16 Jul 2011, at 23:42, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> I can't answer that, the Iphone has its own World Cock App and the Ipad doesn't. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 16/07/2011, at 11:44 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Dane, >>>> >>>> Thanks for posting this. Presume there's an iPhone equivalent? >>>> >>>> D?nal >>>> On 16 Jul 2011, at 14:00, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> Been using this for quite some time so was most interested when a comprehensive update for the World Clock app for Ipad was released and the developer has overwhelmed his customer base with some new and impressive features. >>>>> >>>>> One of my favorites is the ability to set alarms for your world clocks. For example suppose you're talking to someone in New York on Skype and they ask you to ring back at 4 there time in the afternoon, you know how New Yorkers believe the world revolves around them , all you have to do is select New York from the World Clocks and set an alarm for 4 PM so you don't even have to worry about how many hours behind your time zone New York just happens to be. >>>>> >>>>> Talk about some really nifty features in this app, bring up multiple world clocks on the screen and do a "compare" between each, bring up maps to show your location in relation to another world clock - don't know how this would work as I obviously can't see the map - and a whole host of background themes to boot. >>>>> >>>>> You'll find the World Clock app in the obvious place, at the Itunes store and its about $02.00. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jul 17 01:51:09 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:51:09 +1000 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 Versus Pages; [Revisited] In-Reply-To: <85473CB0-6A7A-4215-90E4-BE194494A2FA@me.com> References: <85473CB0-6A7A-4215-90E4-BE194494A2FA@me.com> Message-ID: <705BC840-2961-443C-B993-43AFF16AD4AB@internode.on.net> No, that's the only big problem with Nisus I've found thus far, you can create tables easily enough but you can't read them with Voiceover. You can insert tables where you like in your documents and you can see them with Voiceover - that is to say you can see where they are in the document and you know what they are with Voiceover - but they appear as images thus Voiceover can't read them. The developers of the Nisus Writer software are aware of this problem. Sent from my iPad On 17/07/2011, at 10:07 AM, Damian McMorrow wrote: > Hi all, > > Just wondering if Nissus writer pro handles tables any better with VoiceOver than does Pages as I've always found navigating tables in Pages to be painful at best. > > Thanks for any comments. > > Damian. > ? > > > On 17/07/2011, at 7:45 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> I have just finally got around to playing around with Niseis Writer Pro which we upgraded a couple of weeks ago. I am now of the opinion that Niseis Writer pro definitely handles Microsoft Office documents more efficiently and effectively than does Pages. The conversion rate is far smoother, the visual output when loading a document into Nisus is far more clean than it is under Pages. And I just also tried it with VoiceOver. In the past I have noticed that there are sometimes problems when working on lengthy documents in Pages. However, I have to admit that working on the same lengthy Microsoft Office document in Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 was a totally different experience. The whole thing was far less clunky and prone to the sometimes sluggish behaviour that we have seen under Pages. So, now that we have a paid license, I have modified our system so that in the future all Microsoft doc files open with Nisus Writer Pro 2 rather than Pages. >> >> On screen the format is much much nicer under Nisus than it is under pages. So I guess the question now is what will happen when we try a Microsoft Office 2011 document under Nisus. Pages, unless I'm very much mistaken, can't handle the new format. So we'll see if Nisus can! >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 02:41:26 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:41:26 -0400 Subject: saving VO settings Message-ID: <4e223dca.89af340a.664d.4d2c@mx.google.com> As I recall it is possible to save your VO settings to a file for backup or installation on a new machine. However, I cannot recall how to do this and I cannot seem to find any hints in the VO utility. So, if I am not dilusional, how does one go about this? Thanks. Kevin Kevin Barry If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Jul 17 02:41:11 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:41:11 -0400 Subject: Burning Audible books to cd In-Reply-To: References: <6F11CECA-0753-489A-AEFB-A277F5C1F8C1@computing.dcu.ie> <3BAD6ECC-D139-4BDC-9E89-AF8E6C1C90A1@softcon.com> Message-ID: Wow, I didn't even think of trying the start/end time tags with audible books. To be honest, I hadn't even thought it would be possible. That's another example of me just assuming itunes wouldn't allow it, so I never even tried. Well, phewey. Now I know what kinds of things to look for in the future. Thanks for that little tidbit, I'm sure I'll have use for it in the future. As always, an excellent post, thanks again. From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Jul 17 02:52:10 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:52:10 -0400 Subject: Notezy and Dropbox, want to take the concept further In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually, I'm a little puzzled. Is there really any advantage to using dropbox for this as opposed to say a normal hosting account with ftp access? It sounds to me like all this app does is put your file on the dropbox server, so you can retrieve it elsewhere. If you're using dropbox, I suppose that's all well and good, but I don't see any advantage in this, since I can do exactly the same thing with any ftp/web account with file upload capabilities. Other than the ability to pick up the files elsewhere, is there really any other reason to use dropbox instead of say mac-access.net, or any other web host with upload abilities? I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, I'm honestly curious, that's all. From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Jul 17 03:28:33 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:28:33 +1000 Subject: CD/DVD Burning Software; [Was Re: Roxio Toast titanium, is it accessible or not?] In-Reply-To: <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <58E0C6C2-B4B7-4CB0-9BF9-80760183759D@bluebottle.com> ok cool so do i hve to tell simply burns that its a dvd format or will it know that if i just incert the dvd me and dan thaught that that was just for cds thanks On 16/07/2011, at 9:01 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Krystal > > Have you tried Simply Burns? That is a freeware CD/DVD writing app for the Mac. If you're looking for something fully comprehensive you could have a look at Newtech Info Systems "Dragon Burn". Or else there is NCH Software's "Express Burn". So actually the answer to your question is yes; there is software around if you look. If you need URL's and can't find them, let me know. > > Lynne > > On 16 Jul 2011, at 10:01, krystal watson wrote: > > is there any software to do this at all? it seems every thing i try just isn't going to work with vo just so anoying and frustrating > On 16/07/2011, at 4:28 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Jonathan >> >> We have Toast 10 here and I can assure you it isn't accessible for the most part. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 15 Jul 2011, at 19:07, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >> >> That is sad. Apple lists Toast as accessible on >> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/applications.html >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Sun Jul 17 03:41:01 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Crazy Guy) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:41:01 +0200 Subject: Notezy and Dropbox, want to take the concept further In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A627FEE-84FC-44A5-B3E0-E462799B4A06@econetmail.com> Howdy, Dropbox is just a cloud service like Amazon S3 or even Google Docs. no big deal about it: one can choose to use it or not. i once used it as a backup service until I saw no other benefit. this debate seems even to be raging right now about using cloud service over using offline solutions like storing my files on my disks and use a backup data company to safekeep such data disks. However, one characteristic that makes Dropbox stand out is that, unlike other cloud services, at all times you are in charge of your files. you are able to open your files as long as you have a dropbox client on your desktop or iOS device. it is also easy to just add a file to the cloud by simply moving the file into the folder used by Dropbox. back to the issue of Notesy: I think it has an advantage that if you are a fan of Dropbox cloud storage, it is painless to store it on the Dropbox server if you are on an IOS device: no need to install a separate Dropbox app. you just save to the cloud and retrieve it on the desktop computer. Cheers, On 17 Jul,2011, at 3:52 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Actually, I'm a little puzzled. Is there really any advantage to using dropbox for this as opposed to say a normal hosting account with ftp access? It sounds to me like all this app does is put your file on the dropbox server, so you can retrieve it elsewhere. If you're using dropbox, I suppose that's all well and good, but I don't see any advantage in this, since I can do exactly the same thing with any ftp/web account with file upload capabilities. > Other than the ability to pick up the files elsewhere, is there really any other reason to use dropbox instead of say mac-access.net, or any other web host with upload abilities? I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, I'm honestly curious, that's all. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Sun Jul 17 03:45:46 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Crazy Guy) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:45:46 +0200 Subject: saving VO settings In-Reply-To: <4e223dca.89af340a.664d.4d2c@mx.google.com> References: <4e223dca.89af340a.664d.4d2c@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Howdy, While you have an external disk plugged in, launch VO Utility. from the general tab, press the Setup button for saving your preferences to the external disk. as long as your disk remains plugged in, all your preferences will be saved to it. Good Luck On 17 Jul,2011, at 3:41 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > As I recall it is possible to save your VO settings to a file for backup or installation on a new machine. > However, I cannot recall how to do this and I cannot seem to find any hints in the VO utility. > So, if I am not dilusional, how does one go about this? > Thanks. > Kevin > > > > Kevin Barry > > If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sun Jul 17 03:45:21 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:45:21 -1000 Subject: Start and Stop times for iTunes Tracks [was Re: Burning Audible books to cd] In-Reply-To: References: <6F11CECA-0753-489A-AEFB-A277F5C1F8C1@computing.dcu.ie> <3BAD6ECC-D139-4BDC-9E89-AF8E6C1C90A1@softcon.com> Message-ID: <3354D218-D5D4-4911-8C82-0FD6D26004B7@mac.com> Hi Travis, When you set the start and stop times on the Options tab for any iTunes track, that limits the portion of the track to be used for any operation. It's most notably used for playback, and I remember subscribing to some podcast that had annoying advertisements at the beginning of each track. I simply set all of those podcasts to have start times about a minute into the track to avoid listening to the advertisements. However, using the start and stop times on the Options tab for any track you edit with Command-I to "Get Info", also sets the part of the track that will be used for conversions or burning. So if you wanted to make a ringtone of an mp3 track entirely with the native iTunes functions you could do it. When listening to an mp3 file, I'd press space bar to pause the track about where I wanted to start. Then I'd fine tune the time with the RestartAt AppleScript (again, using an assigned shortcut). I'd make a similar selection for the stop time, and check it with the RestartAt AppleScript, making sure that the total length is less than 40 seconds. Then I'd press Command-I, navigate to the Options Tab for the track, and enter those start and stop times, then close the window. To convert that selection to an .m4a file I'd bring up the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M), and select "Create AAC version". The .m4a file that is created will start and stop at the points I chose. Now, because I don't want to separately delete the .m4a version from the iTunes library (while not moving the file to the Trash), rename it with a .m4b extension, and then re-add it to iTunes so that it shows up as a Ringtone, I'd get Doug Adams' "Make Ringable" Applescript from his AppleScripts for iTunes website. (Just Google "Make Ringable dougscripts" to find it.) Since Doug Adams is a tidy AppleScripter, that script has the option to reset the start and stop times back to nominal when done: you simply select your mp3 track with start and stop times set, and apply the "Make Ringable" menu option from the AppleScripts menu. The script makes a copy of the selected region of your mp3 track specified by the start and stop times, creates an AAC copy of the section you're using for a ringtone, then renames it and adds it back to iTunes so that it shows up as a ringtone, and optionally resets the start and stop times back to the original values. Incidentally, I forgot to emphasize that when you're done burning the Audible tracks you should remember to reset the start and stop times on the Options tab. Either unchecking the boxes or just entering "0" into each field will work. I had some early Audible audiobooks with short stories that I wanted to split off by story, so I used the start and stop times to create separate files I could play. As for the ringtone creation, since I have Amadeus Pro, in practice I'd use that instead of the iTunes method, since it's already set up to let me easily listen to, mark, and shift the boundaries of selected areas of a track. I'd select a track in iTunes, use Command-Shift-R to reveal its location in a Finder window then bring up a context window (Command-Shift-M) to open it with Amadeus Pro. After selecting the region I want, I'd use the built-in "Export as Ringtone" menu option to make this show up as ringtone in iTunes. (No need for a "Make Ringable" AppleScript.) HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 16, 2011, at 15:41, Travis Siegel wrote: > Wow, I didn't even think of trying the start/end time tags with audible books. To be honest, I hadn't even thought it would be possible. That's another example of me just assuming itunes wouldn't allow it, so I never even tried. > Well, phewey. Now I know what kinds of things to look for in the future. > Thanks for that little tidbit, I'm sure I'll have use for it in the future. > As always, an excellent post, thanks again. From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sun Jul 17 04:23:04 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:23:04 +0100 Subject: Start and Stop times for iTunes Tracks [was Re: Burning Audible books to cd] In-Reply-To: <3354D218-D5D4-4911-8C82-0FD6D26004B7@mac.com> References: <6F11CECA-0753-489A-AEFB-A277F5C1F8C1@computing.dcu.ie> <3BAD6ECC-D139-4BDC-9E89-AF8E6C1C90A1@softcon.com> <3354D218-D5D4-4911-8C82-0FD6D26004B7@mac.com> Message-ID: <179F08DE-8051-46B5-8DD2-C572F50CD271@virginmedia.com> Hi all! So do those ringtones made by that Applescript work on the Iphone! I think someone once said that just changing the extension to .m4b will not guarantee that it will work! Or am I mistaken on this! Colin On 17 Jul 2011, at 03:45, Esther wrote: > Hi Travis, > > When you set the start and stop times on the Options tab for any iTunes track, that limits the portion of the track to be used for any operation. It's most notably used for playback, and I remember subscribing to some podcast that had annoying advertisements at the beginning of each track. I simply set all of those podcasts to have start times about a minute into the track to avoid listening to the advertisements. > > However, using the start and stop times on the Options tab for any track you edit with Command-I to "Get Info", also sets the part of the track that will be used for conversions or burning. So if you wanted to make a ringtone of an mp3 track entirely with the native iTunes functions you could do it. When listening to an mp3 file, I'd press space bar to pause the track about where I wanted to start. Then I'd fine tune the time with the RestartAt AppleScript (again, using an assigned shortcut). I'd make a similar selection for the stop time, and check it with the RestartAt AppleScript, making sure that the total length is less than 40 seconds. Then I'd press Command-I, navigate to the Options Tab for the track, and enter those start and stop times, then close the window. To convert that selection to an .m4a file I'd bring up the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M), and select "Create AAC version". The .m4a file that is created will start and stop at the points I chose. > > Now, because I don't want to separately delete the .m4a version from the iTunes library (while not moving the file to the Trash), rename it with a .m4b extension, and then re-add it to iTunes so that it shows up as a Ringtone, I'd get Doug Adams' "Make Ring able" Applescript from his AppleScripts for iTunes website. (Just Google "Make Ring able dougscripts" to find it.) Since Doug Adams is a tidy AppleScripter, that script has the option to reset the start and stop times back to nominal when done: you simply select your mp3 track with start and stop times set, and apply the "Make Ring able" menu option from the AppleScripts menu. The script makes a copy of the selected region of your mp3 track specified by the start and stop times, creates an AAC copy of the section you're using for a ringtone, then renames it and adds it back to iTunes so that it shows up as a ringtone, and optionally resets the start and stop times back to the original values. > > Incidentally, I forgot to emphasise that when you're done burning the Audible tracks you should remember to reset the start and stop times on the Options tab. Either unchecking the boxes or just entering "0" into each field will work. > > I had some early Audible audiobooks with short stories that I wanted to split off by story, so I used the start and stop times to create separate files I could play. > > As for the ringtone creation, since I have Amadeus Pro, in practice I'd use that instead of the iTunes method, since it's already set up to let me easily listen to, mark, and shift the boundaries of selected areas of a track. I'd select a track in iTunes, use Command-Shift-R to reveal its location in a Finder window then bring up a context window (Command-Shift-M) to open it with Amadeus Pro. After selecting the region I want, I'd use the built-in "Export as Ringtone" menu option to make this show up as ringtone in iTunes. (No need for a "Make Ring able" AppleScript.) > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jul 16, 2011, at 15:41, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> Wow, I didn't even think of trying the start/end time tags with audible books. To be honest, I hadn't even thought it would be possible. That's another example of me just assuming itunes wouldn't allow it, so I never even tried. >> Well, phewey. Now I know what kinds of things to look for in the future. >> Thanks for that little tidbit, I'm sure I'll have use for it in the future. >> As always, an excellent post, thanks again. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Jul 17 04:59:47 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:59:47 +1000 Subject: CD/DVD Burning Software; [Was Re: Roxio Toast titanium, is it accessible or not?] In-Reply-To: <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> which one do i choose data immidge one to one copy rip disc or audio this is with simply burns thanks On 16/07/2011, at 9:01 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Krystal > > Have you tried Simply Burns? That is a freeware CD/DVD writing app for the Mac. If you're looking for something fully comprehensive you could have a look at Newtech Info Systems "Dragon Burn". Or else there is NCH Software's "Express Burn". So actually the answer to your question is yes; there is software around if you look. If you need URL's and can't find them, let me know. > > Lynne > > On 16 Jul 2011, at 10:01, krystal watson wrote: > > is there any software to do this at all? it seems every thing i try just isn't going to work with vo just so anoying and frustrating > On 16/07/2011, at 4:28 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Jonathan >> >> We have Toast 10 here and I can assure you it isn't accessible for the most part. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 15 Jul 2011, at 19:07, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >> >> That is sad. Apple lists Toast as accessible on >> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/applications.html >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sun Jul 17 06:16:02 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:16:02 -1000 Subject: Start and Stop times for iTunes Tracks [was Re: Burning Audible books to cd] In-Reply-To: <179F08DE-8051-46B5-8DD2-C572F50CD271@virginmedia.com> References: <6F11CECA-0753-489A-AEFB-A277F5C1F8C1@computing.dcu.ie> <3BAD6ECC-D139-4BDC-9E89-AF8E6C1C90A1@softcon.com> <3354D218-D5D4-4911-8C82-0FD6D26004B7@mac.com> <179F08DE-8051-46B5-8DD2-C572F50CD271@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: Hi Colin, Those ringtones did work when I tested the AppleScripts several months ago, but I only did that to check when answering a question on a list. I did catch a typo in my post description: I meant to say that you have to rename the extension to ".m4r" for ringtones and not ".m4b" which are for audiobooks. I also checked that I could convert a (non-protected) mp3 file to an AAC file (with .m4a extension), delete it from iTunes (without moving it to the Trash), rename it to .m4r extension, add it to my iTunes library, have it show up as a Ringtone, and sync it to an iPhone and work. But this was some time ago, since I don't really need to constantly make new ringtones. And if I did make more ringtones for myself, I would use Amadeus Pro, since it already has shortcuts for easily selecting sections of a track. The likely issue with having problems making ringtones by just changing the extension to .m4r is that if you don't separately delete the .m4a file from iTunes and add it back after you've renamed the extension, iTunes "remembers" that it created that new track as a music file with .m4a extension. Not to mention that it's quite possible that the person working with the files may have mistaken which file was copied and renamed, since you can't view the file extension unless your reveal the file in either Finder (with Command-Shift-R) or an Explorer Window under Windows (with Control-Shift-R), and even then you must set up Windows Explorer to show the extension in the case of iTunes on Windows. This was also true for the old methods of turning .m4a files ripped from CDs into audiobooks before Apple supported this with checkboxes on the Options tab. Doug Adams wrote a "Make Bookmarkable" AppleScript that turned the AAC files in your iTunes library into audiobooks. I suppose it's possible that some renamed .m4r ringtones didn't work. There were several versions of the "Make Bookmarkable" AppleScript to keep up with new quirks in different versions of iTunes, and I imagine this could also be true of "Make Ringable" if simple renaming was not reliable. I remember that at one time for changing files into Audiobooks, I had to actually start playing some tracks after running the AppleScript for them to update their behavior as audiobooks. Alternatively, anything that forced the iTunes data base to update (like slightly changing the name of a track or adding a comment or other new metadata) would get it to recognize new entries correctly. Something similar happened at the time of one of the iOS 4.2 update last November. People synced their iPhones, and for some of them everything but the audio tracks appeared to come over. However, if you expanded the entry for the device in the iTune sources table and selected Music, then navigated to the corresponding songs table, all the music was there. You could even play one of the tracks. Once you did this, if you resynced your device, all the audio tracks showed up in the iTunes database. So, it may just be a question of making sure that the iTunes database updates correctly, and doesn't confuse the entry with a previous, similar one with different attributes (song rather than ringtone). Failing to delete the earlier entry and just leaving the broken link there will probably make such a misidentification more likely, since the database error checking may lead it to think the previous entry (still present) is the correct one. This is all hypothesis, but it seems plausible, and it does work to find solutions (e.g., like playing the tracks to force iTunes or the device to check and update its database for the metadata.) HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 16, 2011, at 17:23, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi all! > So do those ringtones made by that Applescript work on the Iphone! > I think someone once said that just changing the extension to .m4b will not guarantee that it will work! > Or am I mistaken on this! > Colin > > On 17 Jul 2011, at 03:45, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Travis, >> >> When you set the start and stop times on the Options tab for any iTunes track, that limits the portion of the track to be used for any operation. It's most notably used for playback, and I remember subscribing to some podcast that had annoying advertisements at the beginning of each track. I simply set all of those podcasts to have start times about a minute into the track to avoid listening to the advertisements. >> >> However, using the start and stop times on the Options tab for any track you edit with Command-I to "Get Info", also sets the part of the track that will be used for conversions or burning. So if you wanted to make a ringtone of an mp3 track entirely with the native iTunes functions you could do it. When listening to an mp3 file, I'd press space bar to pause the track about where I wanted to start. Then I'd fine tune the time with the RestartAt AppleScript (again, using an assigned shortcut). I'd make a similar selection for the stop time, and check it with the RestartAt AppleScript, making sure that the total length is less than 40 seconds. Then I'd press Command-I, navigate to the Options Tab for the track, and enter those start and stop times, then close the window. To convert that selection to an .m4a file I'd bring up the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M), and select "Create AAC version". The .m4a file that is created will start and stop at the points I chose. >> >> Now, because I don't want to separately delete the .m4a version from the iTunes library (while not moving the file to the Trash), rename it with a .m4b extension, and then re-add it to iTunes so that it shows up as a Ringtone, I'd get Doug Adams' "Make Ring able" Applescript from his AppleScripts for iTunes website. (Just Google "Make Ring able dougscripts" to find it.) Since Doug Adams is a tidy AppleScripter, that script has the option to reset the start and stop times back to nominal when done: you simply select your mp3 track with start and stop times set, and apply the "Make Ring able" menu option from the AppleScripts menu. The script makes a copy of the selected region of your mp3 track specified by the start and stop times, creates an AAC copy of the section you're using for a ringtone, then renames it and adds it back to iTunes so that it shows up as a ringtone, and optionally resets the start and stop times back to the original values. >> >> Incidentally, I forgot to emphasise that when you're done burning the Audible tracks you should remember to reset the start and stop times on the Options tab. Either unchecking the boxes or just entering "0" into each field will work. >> >> I had some early Audible audiobooks with short stories that I wanted to split off by story, so I used the start and stop times to create separate files I could play. >> >> As for the ringtone creation, since I have Amadeus Pro, in practice I'd use that instead of the iTunes method, since it's already set up to let me easily listen to, mark, and shift the boundaries of selected areas of a track. I'd select a track in iTunes, use Command-Shift-R to reveal its location in a Finder window then bring up a context window (Command-Shift-M) to open it with Amadeus Pro. After selecting the region I want, I'd use the built-in "Export as Ringtone" menu option to make this show up as ringtone in iTunes. (No need for a "Make Ring able" AppleScript.) >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Jul 16, 2011, at 15:41, Travis Siegel wrote: >> >>> Wow, I didn't even think of trying the start/end time tags with audible books. To be honest, I hadn't even thought it would be possible. That's another example of me just assuming itunes wouldn't allow it, so I never even tried. >>> Well, phewey. Now I know what kinds of things to look for in the future. >>> Thanks for that little tidbit, I'm sure I'll have use for it in the future. >>> As always, an excellent post, thanks again. >> From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sun Jul 17 08:32:11 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:32:11 +0200 Subject: Tables in Pages Message-ID: Hello everyone, I'm sending this again since some of you seem to have missed it last week. Maybe other people here already knew about this, but I just discovered today that you can make tables visible in Pages by selecting one and going to the Format menu and down to the Table submenu where you select Convert Table to Text. The contents of the table are then readable with VoiceOver. You still have to copy the table into Numbers to edit it effectively, but if all you want to do is read it, this solves that problem. Cheers, Anne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 17 11:04:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:04:27 +0100 Subject: CD/DVD Burning Software; [Was Re: Roxio Toast titanium, is it accessible or not?] In-Reply-To: <58E0C6C2-B4B7-4CB0-9BF9-80760183759D@bluebottle.com> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <58E0C6C2-B4B7-4CB0-9BF9-80760183759D@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <5CF54DFF-106E-46DE-A8C7-2DA904D35313@mac-access.net> Hello Krystal Like most other software of its kind, it will auto-detect the target media pre-writing. Lynne On 17 Jul 2011, at 03:28, krystal watson wrote: ? ok cool so do i hve to tell simply burns that its a dvd format or will it know that if i just incert the dvd me and dan thaught that that was just for cds thanks From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 17 11:06:38 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:06:38 +0100 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> Hello Krystal That depends on what you're trying to do. On 17 Jul 2011, at 04:59, krystal watson wrote: which one do i choose data immidge one to one copy rip disc or audio this is with simply burns From moriond at mac.com Sun Jul 17 11:15:23 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:15:23 -1000 Subject: Tables in Pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Anne, I meant to comment earlier on your nice discovery about reading tables in Pages with VoiceOver by using the Format menu and Table submenu, which I certainly did not know about before. However, when I want to read a page with an table embedded in Pages, I select the page or section, and then use my custom keyboard shortcut assigned to the Services menu option for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection". This effectively converts the contents of the table to text for the purposes of VoiceOver's reading. It switches focus to the selected text in a TextEdit window, where VoiceOver will just read through. Then you can command-tab back to Pages. I don't get many instances like this -- generally there are only a few Word documents that I need to open in Pages. However, I had to do this to read an embedded table recently, and this method worked for me, so I thought I would share this in case it also proved useful for others as an alternative to try. This Services Menu shortcut is quite general purpose, and you'll recall that this can be used to read web pages with accessibility problems due to poor HTML formatting. You just need to check the box for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" to be one of the active commands in the Services Menu and assign it your own custom shortcut. Then select the page or section, and type your custom shortcut -- VoiceOver will read the selection including the table in TextEdit. Let me know whether this works for you, and maybe someone can try this in Nisus Writer Pro 2, as well, since both Damian and Dane referred to the problem of VoiceOver reading embedded tables in another post. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 16, 2011, at 21:32, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm sending this again since some of you seem to have missed it last week. > > Maybe other people here already knew about this, but I just discovered today that you can make tables visible in Pages by selecting one and going to the Format menu and down to the Table submenu where you select Convert Table to Text. The contents of the table are then readable with VoiceOver. You still have to copy the table into Numbers to edit it effectively, but if all you want to do is read it, this solves that problem. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 11:09:28 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:09:28 +0200 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 Versus Pages; [Revisited] In-Reply-To: <705BC840-2961-443C-B993-43AFF16AD4AB@internode.on.net> References: <85473CB0-6A7A-4215-90E4-BE194494A2FA@me.com> <705BC840-2961-443C-B993-43AFF16AD4AB@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <5B162DCE-C490-4840-B8D1-C51964A64402@gmail.com> Hi all. I have contacted the developer of nisus writer pro. I have two problems with nisus, I also like it much better than pages. Problem number one is tables, I hope they can do something to fix that in the future, and I hope all who uses nisus writer pro will let them know, that we are more blind people, who like the program. Problem number two is when you create an epub file, you can not get nisus to make a new page before each chapter, that is really annoying, because nisus has made it so easy I ever have seen it to create epub files. I know that a lot of you uses pages for that operation, but to me it does not work at all. But in nisus it works, but without a new page before the new chapter starts. Best regards Annie. On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:51 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > No, that's the only big problem with Nisus I've found thus far, you can create tables easily enough but you can't read them with Voiceover. > > You can insert tables where you like in your documents and you can see them with Voiceover - that is to say you can see where they are in the document and you know what they are with Voiceover - but they appear as images thus Voiceover can't read them. > > The developers of the Nisus Writer software are aware of this problem. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 17/07/2011, at 10:07 AM, Damian McMorrow wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Just wondering if Nissus writer pro handles tables any better with VoiceOver than does Pages as I've always found navigating tables in Pages to be painful at best. >> >> Thanks for any comments. >> >> Damian. >> ? >> >> >> On 17/07/2011, at 7:45 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> I have just finally got around to playing around with Niseis Writer Pro which we upgraded a couple of weeks ago. I am now of the opinion that Niseis Writer pro definitely handles Microsoft Office documents more efficiently and effectively than does Pages. The conversion rate is far smoother, the visual output when loading a document into Nisus is far more clean than it is under Pages. And I just also tried it with VoiceOver. In the past I have noticed that there are sometimes problems when working on lengthy documents in Pages. However, I have to admit that working on the same lengthy Microsoft Office document in Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 was a totally different experience. The whole thing was far less clunky and prone to the sometimes sluggish behaviour that we have seen under Pages. So, now that we have a paid license, I have modified our system so that in the future all Microsoft doc files open with Nisus Writer Pro 2 rather than Pages. >>> >>> On screen the format is much much nicer under Nisus than it is under pages. So I guess the question now is what will happen when we try a Microsoft Office 2011 document under Nisus. Pages, unless I'm very much mistaken, can't handle the new format. So we'll see if Nisus can! >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jul 17 13:20:25 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 22:20:25 +1000 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 Versus Pages; [Revisited] In-Reply-To: <5B162DCE-C490-4840-B8D1-C51964A64402@gmail.com> References: <85473CB0-6A7A-4215-90E4-BE194494A2FA@me.com> <705BC840-2961-443C-B993-43AFF16AD4AB@internode.on.net> <5B162DCE-C490-4840-B8D1-C51964A64402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F7FA6C-252C-4B57-8075-AEFD55BC833F@internode.on.net> Perhaps I don't fully understand what you're trying to do as I don't use the Epub feature but would the command-enter combination help? That inserts a page break, I think you'll find it in the insert menu as well. On 17/07/2011, at 8:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi all. > > I have contacted the developer of nisus writer pro. I have two problems with nisus, I also like it much better than pages. Problem number one is tables, I hope they can do something to fix that in the future, and I hope all who uses nisus writer pro will let them know, that we are more blind people, who like the program. > > Problem number two is when you create an epub file, you can not get nisus to make a new page before each chapter, that is really annoying, because nisus has made it so easy I ever have seen it to create epub files. I know that a lot of you uses pages for that operation, but to me it does not work at all. But in nisus it works, but without a new page before the new chapter starts. > > Best regards Annie. > On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:51 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> No, that's the only big problem with Nisus I've found thus far, you can create tables easily enough but you can't read them with Voiceover. >> >> You can insert tables where you like in your documents and you can see them with Voiceover - that is to say you can see where they are in the document and you know what they are with Voiceover - but they appear as images thus Voiceover can't read them. >> >> The developers of the Nisus Writer software are aware of this problem. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 17/07/2011, at 10:07 AM, Damian McMorrow wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just wondering if Nissus writer pro handles tables any better with VoiceOver than does Pages as I've always found navigating tables in Pages to be painful at best. >>> >>> Thanks for any comments. >>> >>> Damian. >>> ? >>> >>> >>> On 17/07/2011, at 7:45 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everybody >>>> >>>> I have just finally got around to playing around with Niseis Writer Pro which we upgraded a couple of weeks ago. I am now of the opinion that Niseis Writer pro definitely handles Microsoft Office documents more efficiently and effectively than does Pages. The conversion rate is far smoother, the visual output when loading a document into Nisus is far more clean than it is under Pages. And I just also tried it with VoiceOver. In the past I have noticed that there are sometimes problems when working on lengthy documents in Pages. However, I have to admit that working on the same lengthy Microsoft Office document in Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 was a totally different experience. The whole thing was far less clunky and prone to the sometimes sluggish behaviour that we have seen under Pages. So, now that we have a paid license, I have modified our system so that in the future all Microsoft doc files open with Nisus Writer Pro 2 rather than Pages. >>>> >>>> On screen the format is much much nicer under Nisus than it is under pages. So I guess the question now is what will happen when we try a Microsoft Office 2011 document under Nisus. Pages, unless I'm very much mistaken, can't handle the new format. So we'll see if Nisus can! >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sun Jul 17 14:03:20 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:03:20 -0300 Subject: Update problems. Message-ID: Hi Folks: It would seem that I have a major problem here. I am not able to update any of my apps that I've purchased. I can see the purchased date on my computer but when I try and update the programs, I am told that I have updates for another account and that I should sign in with that account. The problem is that I don't know of any other account and, as I said, I do actually have the programs on my computer so I obviously was aloud to purchase and download them with no problem. If anyone can help me with this, I would appreciate it all over the place. Thanks. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6301 (20110717) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 17 14:11:21 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:11:21 +0100 Subject: Update problems. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D0EEA73-FB8B-482D-AA4F-37C5F8EFE1ED@mac-access.net> Hello Jim Do you have an Apple ID? That is what you have to sign in with. I'm guessing you've created 2, and you're now using a different one. Lynne On 17 Jul 2011, at 14:03, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hi Folks: It would seem that I have a major problem here. I am not able to update any of my apps that I've purchased. I can see the purchased date on my computer but when I try and update the programs, I am told that I have updates for another account and that I should sign in with that account. The problem is that I don't know of any other account and, as I said, I do actually have the programs on my computer so I obviously was aloud to purchase and download them with no problem. If anyone can help me with this, I would appreciate it all over the place. Thanks. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6301 (20110717) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Jul 17 14:26:10 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:26:10 +1000 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> trying to burn a dvd so it will play in a dvd player On 17/07/2011, at 8:06 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Krystal > > That depends on what you're trying to do. > > On 17 Jul 2011, at 04:59, krystal watson wrote: > > which one do i choose data immidge one to one copy rip disc or audio this is with simply burns > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sun Jul 17 14:45:37 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:45:37 -0300 Subject: Update problems resolved. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B841E8A666E4F4D86F4EF04DBB46EFD@MainComputer> Hi Again Folks: It seems that I have resolved my problem. When I purchased my apps, I already had demos of the apps on my computer. I guess that they wern't replaced by my purchasing them from the store. When I deleted them from the applications list, I was able to install them from the app store and all appears to be well. Quite a hastle I'd say. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Noseworthy" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 10:03 AM Subject: Update problems. > Hi Folks: > > It would seem that I have a major problem here. I am not able to update > any of my apps that I've purchased. I can see the purchased date on my > computer but when I try and update the programs, I am told that I have > updates for another account and that I should sign in with that account. > > The problem is that I don't know of any other account and, as I said, I do > actually have the programs on my computer so I obviously was aloud to > purchase and download them with no problem. > > If anyone can help me with this, I would appreciate it all over the place. > > Thanks. > > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, > in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6301 (20110717) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6301 (20110717) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6301 (20110717) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From juanitatighan at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 15:16:36 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:16:36 -0400 Subject: Tables in Pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3137F2CB-E8CB-4B96-ADBE-C285C18063D8@gmail.com> I attempted to follow your instructions, but System Preferences crashed. I thought command-option-shift-t would work as a shortcut. Thoughts? Jane On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Esther wrote: > Hello Anne, > > I meant to comment earlier on your nice discovery about reading tables in Pages with VoiceOver by using the Format menu and Table submenu, which I certainly did not know about before. However, when I want to read a page with an table embedded in Pages, I select the page or section, and then use my custom keyboard shortcut assigned to the Services menu option for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection". This effectively converts the contents of the table to text for the purposes of VoiceOver's reading. It switches focus to the selected text in a TextEdit window, where VoiceOver will just read through. Then you can command-tab back to Pages. I don't get many instances like this -- generally there are only a few Word documents that I need to open in Pages. However, I had to do this to read an embedded table recently, and this method worked for me, so I thought I would share this in case it also proved useful for others as an alternative to try. > > This Services Menu shortcut is quite general purpose, and you'll recall that this can be used to read web pages with accessibility problems due to poor HTML formatting. You just need to check the box for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" to be one of the active commands in the Services Menu and assign it your own custom shortcut. Then select the page or section, and type your custom shortcut -- VoiceOver will read the selection including the table in TextEdit. > > Let me know whether this works for you, and maybe someone can try this in Nisus Writer Pro 2, as well, since both Damian and Dane referred to the problem of VoiceOver reading embedded tables in another post. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jul 16, 2011, at 21:32, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I'm sending this again since some of you seem to have missed it last week. >> >> Maybe other people here already knew about this, but I just discovered today that you can make tables visible in Pages by selecting one and going to the Format menu and down to the Table submenu where you select Convert Table to Text. The contents of the table are then readable with VoiceOver. You still have to copy the table into Numbers to edit it effectively, but if all you want to do is read it, this solves that problem. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 17 16:24:46 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:24:46 +0100 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: Hello Krystal That's a very different matter. For that, as I understand it, you need DVD authoring tools. All SimplyBurns does is what the other burning apps do, burn your files to the DVD. Lynne On 17 Jul 2011, at 14:26, krystal watson wrote: ? trying to burn a dvd so it will play in a dvd player From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sun Jul 17 17:12:46 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:12:46 +0200 Subject: Tables in Pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Esther, Thank you for this suggestion. The "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" shortcut also works for checking that numbered lists and such like are correct. Cheers, Anne On 17 Jul 2011, at 12:15, Esther wrote: > Hello Anne, > > I meant to comment earlier on your nice discovery about reading tables in Pages with VoiceOver by using the Format menu and Table submenu, which I certainly did not know about before. However, when I want to read a page with an table embedded in Pages, I select the page or section, and then use my custom keyboard shortcut assigned to the Services menu option for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection". This effectively converts the contents of the table to text for the purposes of VoiceOver's reading. It switches focus to the selected text in a TextEdit window, where VoiceOver will just read through. Then you can command-tab back to Pages. I don't get many instances like this -- generally there are only a few Word documents that I need to open in Pages. However, I had to do this to read an embedded table recently, and this method worked for me, so I thought I would share this in case it also proved useful for others as an alternative to try. > > This Services Menu shortcut is quite general purpose, and you'll recall that this can be used to read web pages with accessibility problems due to poor HTML formatting. You just need to check the box for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" to be one of the active commands in the Services Menu and assign it your own custom shortcut. Then select the page or section, and type your custom shortcut -- VoiceOver will read the selection including the table in TextEdit. > > Let me know whether this works for you, and maybe someone can try this in Nisus Writer Pro 2, as well, since both Damian and Dane referred to the problem of VoiceOver reading embedded tables in another post. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jul 16, 2011, at 21:32, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I'm sending this again since some of you seem to have missed it last week. >> >> Maybe other people here already knew about this, but I just discovered today that you can make tables visible in Pages by selecting one and going to the Format menu and down to the Table submenu where you select Convert Table to Text. The contents of the table are then readable with VoiceOver. You still have to copy the table into Numbers to edit it effectively, but if all you want to do is read it, this solves that problem. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 19:45:33 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:45:33 +0200 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 Versus Pages; [Revisited] In-Reply-To: <47F7FA6C-252C-4B57-8075-AEFD55BC833F@internode.on.net> References: <85473CB0-6A7A-4215-90E4-BE194494A2FA@me.com> <705BC840-2961-443C-B993-43AFF16AD4AB@internode.on.net> <5B162DCE-C490-4840-B8D1-C51964A64402@gmail.com> <47F7FA6C-252C-4B57-8075-AEFD55BC833F@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <42553C0F-93E5-47D6-85F4-6FF914818190@gmail.com> Hi Dane. That is correct. But that does not solve the problem. There is a bog in the way nisus makes an epub file, so that chapters will not behave as it ought to. I can not find out how to explain in english, what the problem is. Best regards Annie. On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Perhaps I don't fully understand what you're trying to do as I don't use the Epub feature but would the command-enter combination help? That inserts a page break, I think you'll find it in the insert menu as well. > > > On 17/07/2011, at 8:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> I have contacted the developer of nisus writer pro. I have two problems with nisus, I also like it much better than pages. Problem number one is tables, I hope they can do something to fix that in the future, and I hope all who uses nisus writer pro will let them know, that we are more blind people, who like the program. >> >> Problem number two is when you create an epub file, you can not get nisus to make a new page before each chapter, that is really annoying, because nisus has made it so easy I ever have seen it to create epub files. I know that a lot of you uses pages for that operation, but to me it does not work at all. But in nisus it works, but without a new page before the new chapter starts. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:51 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> No, that's the only big problem with Nisus I've found thus far, you can create tables easily enough but you can't read them with Voiceover. >>> >>> You can insert tables where you like in your documents and you can see them with Voiceover - that is to say you can see where they are in the document and you know what they are with Voiceover - but they appear as images thus Voiceover can't read them. >>> >>> The developers of the Nisus Writer software are aware of this problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 17/07/2011, at 10:07 AM, Damian McMorrow wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Just wondering if Nissus writer pro handles tables any better with VoiceOver than does Pages as I've always found navigating tables in Pages to be painful at best. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any comments. >>>> >>>> Damian. >>>> ? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17/07/2011, at 7:45 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everybody >>>>> >>>>> I have just finally got around to playing around with Niseis Writer Pro which we upgraded a couple of weeks ago. I am now of the opinion that Niseis Writer pro definitely handles Microsoft Office documents more efficiently and effectively than does Pages. The conversion rate is far smoother, the visual output when loading a document into Nisus is far more clean than it is under Pages. And I just also tried it with VoiceOver. In the past I have noticed that there are sometimes problems when working on lengthy documents in Pages. However, I have to admit that working on the same lengthy Microsoft Office document in Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 was a totally different experience. The whole thing was far less clunky and prone to the sometimes sluggish behaviour that we have seen under Pages. So, now that we have a paid license, I have modified our system so that in the future all Microsoft doc files open with Nisus Writer Pro 2 rather than Pages. >>>>> >>>>> On screen the format is much much nicer under Nisus than it is under pages. So I guess the question now is what will happen when we try a Microsoft Office 2011 document under Nisus. Pages, unless I'm very much mistaken, can't handle the new format. So we'll see if Nisus can! >>>>> >>>>> Lynne >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 19:52:12 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:52:12 -0500 Subject: *IMPORTANT* Lack of VoiceOver Accessibility: iWork (Pages, Numbers, KeyNote) Message-ID: An area that is very important on iOS, but ?has been lacking in Voiceover accessibility ?greatly is productivity. Apple's iOS iWork is the only suite that is somewhat "useable", but is far from "accessible". It would be great to have a master list/document, which details ?all of the various VoiceOver accessibility issues with Apple's iOS iWork. This master list can be then sent to accessibility at apple.com and filed as bugs in BugReport.Apple.com I would like to reach out to the iOS VoiceOver community to gather all the iOS iWork VoiceOver accessibility ?pitfalls, short comings, bugs, areas that need to be improved, and other suggestions. The importance ?of this is only getting ?larger and larger, especially as we move from the traditional desktop/laptop productivity environment to the mobile world. When providing ?thoughts, bugs, and/or suggestions on iOS iWork VoiceOver accessibility, please be sure to include the following details: * iWork app in question: Pages, Numbers, or KeyNote; * summary of bug; * steps to reproduce bug; * expected result (given the bug were not present); * Actual result (how does it currently behave with the bug). Hoping, we can encourage and push for real iOS iWork VoiceOver accessibility. Thanks, Kevin From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 20:52:50 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:52:50 -0400 Subject: saving VO settings In-Reply-To: References: <4e223dca.89af340a.664d.4d2c@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4e233f3e.044b340a.74fb.4cfd@mx.google.com> Wonderful, thanks. Kevin At 10:45 PM 7/16/2011, you wrote: >Howdy, > >While you have an external disk plugged in, launch VO Utility. from >the general tab, press the Setup button for saving your preferences >to the external disk. as long as your disk remains plugged in, all >your preferences will be saved to it. > >Good Luck > > > On 17 Jul,2011, at 3:41 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > > > As I recall it is possible to save > your VO settings to a file for backup or installation on a new machine. > > However, I cannot recall how to do this and I cannot seem to find > any hints in the VO utility. > > So, if I am not dilusional, how does one go about this? > > Thanks. > > Kevin > > > > > > > > Kevin Barry > > > > If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sun Jul 17 21:04:17 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:04:17 -1000 Subject: Tables in Pages In-Reply-To: <3137F2CB-E8CB-4B96-ADBE-C285C18063D8@gmail.com> References: <3137F2CB-E8CB-4B96-ADBE-C285C18063D8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jane, I can't think of any existing keyboard shortcut definition conflicts with Command-Option-Shift-t, but if you're using the right Option key and have Keyboard Commanders active (so that pressing Right Option+t announces the time), I guess there could potentially be some issues. I'm using Command-Option-Shift-w. When you set up the keyboard shortcut definition, did you do it by moving one column to the right of the category names column and typing in your shortcut or did you add it as an applications shortcut in a separate step? Since I initially set up the shortcut when I first got Snow Leopard, I did this in two steps: I first checked "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" under the Services menu, then exited the System Preferences menu by closing the window so I could make sure this option appeared in the Services menu once I selected some text (in any application). Then I went back to the Keyboard Shortcuts pane, selected "Application Shortcuts" (instead of "Services") in the "Shortcuts Categories" table, and pressed the "Add an Application Shortcut" button, and let my shortcut key assignment be applied to "All Applications". To be on the safe side, I also restarted my computer, since I was using it for "All Applications". I don't think you actually need to take this many steps and, in fact, I think you can simply navigate one column to the right of the second column which has the category name of "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" after verifying that the check box in the first column is checked. I was able to VO-Space and type in a keyboard shortcut combination here. There used to be problems (under all versions of Leopard) activating this field, at least to change this field, with the "obvious" keystrokes. (I think hardware double-clicking worked, and so did pressing the tab key). However, the virtue of splitting the steps up is that you can be sure that the new option is available to you under Services Menu, even without an assigned shortcut, and in the case of conflicting shortcut assignments, you can fix/change this without affecting the availability of this menu option. Remember that the "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" menu option appears only if you have first selected some text, and that it will show up in the Services submenu of any application -- just use Control+F2 or VO-M to go to the menu bar and navigate to the right to the application menu, then arrow down or type "s e" to go to the Services menu. This menu option should show up when you VO-Right arrow to the Services submenu. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 17, 2011, at 04:16, Jane wrote: > I attempted to follow your instructions, but System Preferences crashed. I thought command-option-shift-t would work as a shortcut. Thoughts? > > Jane > > > On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Esther wrote: > >> Hello Anne, >> >> I meant to comment earlier on your nice discovery about reading tables in Pages with VoiceOver by using the Format menu and Table submenu, which I certainly did not know about before. However, when I want to read a page with an table embedded in Pages, I select the page or section, and then use my custom keyboard shortcut assigned to the Services menu option for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection". This effectively converts the contents of the table to text for the purposes of VoiceOver's reading. It switches focus to the selected text in a TextEdit window, where VoiceOver will just read through. Then you can command-tab back to Pages. I don't get many instances like this -- generally there are only a few Word documents that I need to open in Pages. However, I had to do this to read an embedded table recently, and this method worked for me, so I thought I would share this in case it also proved useful for others as an alternative to try. >> >> This Services Menu shortcut is quite general purpose, and you'll recall that this can be used to read web pages with accessibility problems due to poor HTML formatting. You just need to check the box for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" to be one of the active commands in the Services Menu and assign it your own custom shortcut. Then select the page or section, and type your custom shortcut -- VoiceOver will read the selection including the table in TextEdit. >> >> Let me know whether this works for you, and maybe someone can try this in Nisus Writer Pro 2, as well, since both Damian and Dane referred to the problem of VoiceOver reading embedded tables in another post. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Jul 16, 2011, at 21:32, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I'm sending this again since some of you seem to have missed it last week. >>> >>> Maybe other people here already knew about this, but I just discovered today that you can make tables visible in Pages by selecting one and going to the Format menu and down to the Table submenu where you select Convert Table to Text. The contents of the table are then readable with VoiceOver. You still have to copy the table into Numbers to edit it effectively, but if all you want to do is read it, this solves that problem. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sun Jul 17 22:04:27 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 22:04:27 +0100 Subject: *IMPORTANT* Lack of VoiceOver Accessibility on iOS: iWork (Pages, Numbers, KeyNote) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Kevin! I do not know if you are a member of the VI phones list and as I'm not either [so I do not know if this has been talked about on there] But if not that might be a good place for more views on this matter! And there is another list that might [or not] have people who might contribute to your quest! Colin On 17 Jul 2011, at 19:52, Kevin Chao wrote: > An area that is very important on iOS, but has been lacking in > Voiceover accessibility greatly is productivity. > > Apple's iOS iWork is the only suite that is somewhat "useable", but is > far from "accessible". > > It would be great to have a master list/document, which details all > of the various VoiceOver accessibility issues with Apple's iOS iWork. > This master list can be then sent to accessibility at apple.com and filed > as bugs in BugReport.Apple.com > > I would like to reach out to the iOS VoiceOver community to gather all > the iOS iWork VoiceOver accessibility pitfalls, short comings, bugs, > areas that need to be improved, and other suggestions. > > The importance of this is only getting larger and larger, especially > as we move from the traditional desktop/laptop productivity > environment to the mobile world. > > When providing thoughts, bugs, and/or suggestions on iOS iWork > VoiceOver accessibility, please be sure to include the following > details: > * iWork app in question: Pages, Numbers, or KeyNote; > * summary of bug; > * steps to reproduce bug; > * expected result (given the bug were not present); > * Actual result (how does it currently behave with the bug). > > Hoping, we can encourage and push for real iOS iWork VoiceOver accessibility. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Jul 17 22:33:56 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:33:56 +1000 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> how do i do that when i dvd is a bunch of unacessible crap that v o hates as its immages and vo hates pictures wish appel would fix it as they should know this and do something about it sorrry just getting frustrated here as every thing i try gets me know where i strogly feel that my little nephew is never going to get his dvd and he keeps crying for his videos what can i do sad face On 18/07/2011, at 1:24 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Krystal > > That's a very different matter. For that, as I understand it, you need DVD authoring tools. All SimplyBurns does is what the other burning apps do, burn your files to the DVD. > > Lynne > > On 17 Jul 2011, at 14:26, krystal watson wrote: > > ? trying to burn a dvd so it will play in a dvd player > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access...net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 17 22:42:00 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 22:42:00 +0100 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> Hello Krystal First, calm down! I'm not aware of any DVD authoring tool with the exception of DVD Remaster on the Mac, but you asked for a DVD burning tool. Try going to http://www.metakine.com and download DVD Remaster. That's the only possible way I can think of. But we have created DVDs like that. What format is your data in? If you want feel free to contact me off list. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 23:06:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:06:15 -0700 Subject: *IMPORTANT* Lack of VoiceOver Accessibility on iOS: iWork (Pages, Numbers, KeyNote) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55982FE9-C17B-42F7-9C56-3930238D153F@gmail.com> Yeah. look up the aiphones list on yahoo groups. A lot of people use it successfully on there so you could get some tips on there. Good luck On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Kevin! > I do not know if you are a member of the VI phones list and as I'm not either [so I do not know if this has been talked about on there] > But if not that might be a good place for more views on this matter! > And there is another list that might [or not] have people who might contribute to your quest! > Colin > On 17 Jul 2011, at 19:52, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> An area that is very important on iOS, but has been lacking in >> Voiceover accessibility greatly is productivity. >> >> Apple's iOS iWork is the only suite that is somewhat "useable", but is >> far from "accessible". >> >> It would be great to have a master list/document, which details all >> of the various VoiceOver accessibility issues with Apple's iOS iWork. >> This master list can be then sent to accessibility at apple.com and filed >> as bugs in BugReport.Apple.com >> >> I would like to reach out to the iOS VoiceOver community to gather all >> the iOS iWork VoiceOver accessibility pitfalls, short comings, bugs, >> areas that need to be improved, and other suggestions. >> >> The importance of this is only getting larger and larger, especially >> as we move from the traditional desktop/laptop productivity >> environment to the mobile world. >> >> When providing thoughts, bugs, and/or suggestions on iOS iWork >> VoiceOver accessibility, please be sure to include the following >> details: >> * iWork app in question: Pages, Numbers, or KeyNote; >> * summary of bug; >> * steps to reproduce bug; >> * expected result (given the bug were not present); >> * Actual result (how does it currently behave with the bug). >> >> Hoping, we can encourage and push for real iOS iWork VoiceOver accessibility. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 23:09:35 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:09:35 -0400 Subject: One more, changing default WiFi networks Message-ID: <4e235da5.0426dc0a.42ac.27c8@mx.google.com> My MBP automatically logs onto my 2.4 ghz network at home. However, since I purchased the Mac I've upgraded to a dual band simultaneous 2.4 and 5ghz band router. I'd like to have the Mac default to the 5ghz band instead. I can change it easily enough but I'd like it do start there. How do I change the default network? Thanks. Kevin Kevin Barry If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Mon Jul 18 02:05:29 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:05:29 +1000 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> its in mp4v On 18/07/2011, at 7:42 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Krystal > > First, calm down! I'm not aware of any DVD authoring tool with the exception of DVD Remaster on the Mac, but you asked for a DVD burning tool. Try going to http://www.metakine.com and download DVD Remaster. That's the only possible way I can think of. But we have created DVDs like that. What format is your data in? > > If you want feel free to contact me off list. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jul 18 02:14:17 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:14:17 -0700 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: You should be able to do it with mpeg stream clip. export it to dvd format and then use a burning program to burn the thing to dvd. Take care. On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:05 PM, krystal watson wrote: > its in mp4v > On 18/07/2011, at 7:42 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Krystal >> >> First, calm down! I'm not aware of any DVD authoring tool with the exception of DVD Remaster on the Mac, but you asked for a DVD burning tool. Try going to http://www.metakine.com and download DVD Remaster. That's the only possible way I can think of. But we have created DVDs like that. What format is your data in? >> >> If you want feel free to contact me off list. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jul 18 02:15:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:15:08 -0700 Subject: One more, changing default WiFi networks In-Reply-To: <4e235da5.0426dc0a.42ac.27c8@mx.google.com> References: <4e235da5.0426dc0a.42ac.27c8@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5CEC03F8-3580-49E5-82F0-6D740DAD1EB1@gmail.com> You do it in the air port under wireless. There is a table of networks you frequently connect to. delete the ones you don't use or don't want the mac to remember. Good luck. On Jul 17, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > My MBP automatically logs onto my 2.4 ghz network at home. > However, since I purchased the Mac I've upgraded to a dual band simultaneous 2.4 and 5ghz band router. > I'd like to have the Mac default to the 5ghz band instead. > I can change it easily enough but I'd like it do start there. > How do I change the default network? > Thanks. > Kevin > > > > Kevin Barry > > If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Mon Jul 18 02:47:22 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:47:22 +1000 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <89FDD1D5-53DC-4F37-8BB3-406695B574C9@bluebottle.com> i can't get mpeg stream clip to doenload can some one please help sorry i press the button that says mpeg stream clip for mac clickible but it does nothing On 18/07/2011, at 11:14 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You should be able to do it with mpeg stream clip. export it to dvd format and then use a burning program to burn the thing to dvd. > > Take care. > On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:05 PM, krystal watson wrote: > >> its in mp4v >> On 18/07/2011, at 7:42 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Krystal >>> >>> First, calm down! I'm not aware of any DVD authoring tool with the exception of DVD Remaster on the Mac, but you asked for a DVD burning tool. Try going to http://www.metakine.com and download DVD Remaster. That's the only possible way I can think of. But we have created DVDs like that. What format is your data in? >>> >>> If you want feel free to contact me off list. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jul 18 10:05:30 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:05:30 +0100 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: Hello Krystal Right; if you want it in DVD format i think you'd need an authoring tool. But you could probably convert it to a video CD or DVE easily enough. I think Simply Burns will let you do that but, definitely, Dragon Burn will do it. But Dragon Burn is a paid-for tool. There are most likely others which are free, and maybe others on list will know of some. I am trying to help you, you can count on that. Lynne On 18 Jul 2011, at 02:05, krystal watson wrote: its in mp4v From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Mon Jul 18 13:34:47 2011 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:34:47 +0100 Subject: Mail read receipts Message-ID: Hi all, Is there an easy way for a non techy person to add a read receipt to an email on the Mac? cheers Ian From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jul 18 13:53:57 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:53:57 +0100 Subject: Mail read receipts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5C75EC0F-701E-47D5-8E5E-2D3FA7A9BC5D@mac-access.net> Currently to my knowledge, this is not possible without Apple Scripting. Maybe this will be addressed in Lion though. TC :) James On 18 Jul 2011, at 13:34, Ian Harrison wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there an easy way for a non techy person to add a read receipt to an email on the Mac? > > > cheers > Ian > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Mon Jul 18 14:53:03 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:53:03 +1000 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <08F380B0-1516-4808-8727-66B13C000770@bluebottle.com> some one said mpeg stream clip there has to be a way to do this On 18/07/2011, at 7:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Krystal > > Right; if you want it in DVD format i think you'd need an authoring tool. But you could probably convert it to a video CD or DVE easily enough. I think Simply Burns will let you do that but, definitely, Dragon Burn will do it. But Dragon Burn is a paid-for tool. There are most likely others which are free, and maybe others on list will know of some. I am trying to help you, you can count on that. > > Lynne > > On 18 Jul 2011, at 02:05, krystal watson wrote: > > its in mp4v > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jul 18 15:37:19 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:37:19 +0100 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <08F380B0-1516-4808-8727-66B13C000770@bluebottle.com> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> <08F380B0-1516-4808-8727-66B13C000770@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <9DB96217-D069-4C95-BC04-D8C643C4F590@mac-access.net> hello Krystal On 18 Jul 2011, at 14:53, krystal watson wrote: ? some one said mpeg stream clip there has to be a way to do this I think it depends upon what kind of video content you want to produce. I think you could probably do is with iDVD but I'm not 100% sure. Of course, that doesn't help if you don't have iDBVD. The best way I can think of would be to use DVD Remaster. I'm not an expert i all things Mac. But that is the only accessible solution I am aware of which will let you do that. I know it's frustrating and I honestly sympathise. But unless somebody else knows better, that's all I can add. Lynne From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Mon Jul 18 15:20:10 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:20:10 -0400 Subject: One more, changing default WiFi networks In-Reply-To: <5CEC03F8-3580-49E5-82F0-6D740DAD1EB1@gmail.com> References: <4e235da5.0426dc0a.42ac.27c8@mx.google.com> <5CEC03F8-3580-49E5-82F0-6D740DAD1EB1@gmail.com> Message-ID: This list that Sarah mentions is n ordered list that sighted folks can easily re-arrange with draging selected items. But I believe any new networks will be added to the bottom if you want to just delete and insert the network of concern. I usually do this through system preferences. 1. Change to the Network System Preferences panel. 2. Make sure the panel is unlocked. 3. click advanced 4. Select the wireless tab if not selecded 5. Go to the Prefered Networks table and rearrange with dragging. Best regards, Jonathan On Jul 17, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You do it in the air port under wireless. There is a table of networks you frequently connect to. delete the ones you don't use or don't want the mac to remember. > > Good luck. > On Jul 17, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > >> My MBP automatically logs onto my 2.4 ghz network at home. >> However, since I purchased the Mac I've upgraded to a dual band simultaneous 2.4 and 5ghz band router. >> I'd like to have the Mac default to the 5ghz band instead. >> I can change it easily enough but I'd like it do start there. >> How do I change the default network? >> Thanks. >> Kevin >> >> >> >> Kevin Barry >> >> If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Mon Jul 18 18:13:45 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:13:45 +0100 Subject: Best IOS Daisy player please? Message-ID: <5C7FE43C-626C-4071-863C-18D447FBA9EB@thejazzden.org.uk> Hello I wonder if any of you have any thoughts on which of the Daisy book players I should purchase for my Iphone? I am a UK resident so mainly use books borrowed/purchased from the RNIB. Any help on this welcomed. With thanks. Dennis. From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jul 19 03:35:21 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:35:21 +1000 Subject: Exciting News In-Reply-To: <1B006905-0C25-4F24-B294-A729EA4EDCD8@mac-access.net> References: <1B006905-0C25-4F24-B294-A729EA4EDCD8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi! Sorry, haven't been following this thread, I use Taco HTML Edit here, won't that do what you want? Its good if we have more than one accessible piece of software for any one job so not complaining in the slightest . On 15/07/2011, at 8:20 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Firstly, the article I wrote regarding system backups at has been updated with new information regarding Super Duper!. > > Secondly, thanks to the fact that one list member saw fit to let me know, it seems that at last, we've found an accessible solution to rival iWeb. Sandvox 2.1 is shareware, and looks to be incredibly easy to use. I will detail more later. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From stuartyoung at samobile.net Tue Jul 19 05:46:16 2011 From: stuartyoung at samobile.net (Stuart Young) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:46:16 -0400 Subject: daisy player Message-ID: <20110719044616.3365.49140@domU-12-31-38-04-0E-D6.compute-1.internal> Hi all. does anyone know if there is a daisy player that works with voice over for the mac?. any help would be great. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 19 06:19:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:19:32 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing; Was [Exciting News] In-Reply-To: References: <1B006905-0C25-4F24-B294-A729EA4EDCD8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6538D259-24C1-48C0-9EA0-D732C7A1847B@mac-access.net> Hello Dane On 19 Jul 2011, at 03:35, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? Sorry, haven't been following this thread, I use Taco HTML Edit here, won't that do what you want? Its good if we have more than one accessible piece of software for any one job so not complaining in the slightest . You "Use" Taco HTML edit? Really? ;-) To answer your question; no. Taco will not do what we need; not easily anyway. Lynne From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Tue Jul 19 07:18:32 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:18:32 +1000 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <9DB96217-D069-4C95-BC04-D8C643C4F590@mac-access.net> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> <08F380B0-1516-4808-8727-66B13C000770@bluebottle.com> <9DB96217-D069-4C95-BC04-D8C643C4F590@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9732ACE9-5E4F-4138-AF93-F6803DD353BF@bluebottle.com> i tryed that it does not like the mp4 v format sad smiley i don't know what to do it looks like my nephew is never going to get his dvd if only there was something that would work that was vo friendly i dvd is on every mac but is not liked by vo i am trying every thing but not haveing any luck this really sucks that i can not get the dvd made its so hard to explain this to a 3 year old why he has not yet got the dvd i have promaced him sorry if i am being anoying this is just frustrating his mother has so many more for me to burn to but so far no luck someting has to be out there to do this sorry On 19/07/2011, at 12:37 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > hello Krystal > > On 18 Jul 2011, at 14:53, krystal watson wrote: > > ? some one said mpeg stream clip there has to be a way to do this > > I think it depends upon what kind of video content you want to produce. I think you could probably do is with iDVD but I'm not 100% sure. Of course, that doesn't help if you don't have iDBVD. > > The best way I can think of would be to use DVD Remaster. I'm not an expert i all things Mac. But that is the only accessible solution I am aware of which will let you do that. > I know it's frustrating and I honestly sympathise. But unless somebody else knows better, that's all I can add. > > Lynne > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access...net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Tue Jul 19 07:37:22 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:37:22 +0100 Subject: Take Control Clients; Bookshelf Message-ID: Hello everybody; particularly those who are clients of Mac Access Dot Net via the Take Control titles service. We're sorry to have to bug the group with this; and rest assured that this will be the final time. If you are one of those who still have not contacted us regarding your bookshelf following the hardware failure we suffered a couple of months ago, we urge you to do so. We are still getting the odd complaint because people are looking for titles and finding that their bookshelf has not been rebuilt. If you don't get back to us, we won't be able to help you. This is the last such message we will post here on this topic; so we urge you to contact us in order that your books are secured and available should you need to re-download them. We would also like to remind our clients that the URL has changed for the bookshelves. The service is no longer resident at which will not work any longer. The URL is now . We give you our word that this URL will remain in place for at least the next 3 years. Lynne From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jul 19 07:46:41 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:46:41 +0100 Subject: daisy player In-Reply-To: <20110719044616.3365.49140@domU-12-31-38-04-0E-D6.compute-1.internal> References: <20110719044616.3365.49140@domU-12-31-38-04-0E-D6.compute-1.internal> Message-ID: <0B7848D0-1BB6-49E9-AE47-862C7DCB8DBB@blueyonder.co.uk> I believe there are free available, 2 are open source and one is commercial. Check out these links: http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia/ http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Audio/Daisy-Delight.shtml http://www.gh-accessibility.com/news/gh-releases-first-ever-daisy-player-mac Chris On 19 Jul 2011, at 05:46, Stuart Young wrote: > Hi all. > does anyone know if there is a daisy player that works with voice over for the mac?. any help would be great. > > -- > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jul 19 08:01:05 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:01:05 +1000 Subject: HTML Editing; Was [Exciting News] In-Reply-To: <6538D259-24C1-48C0-9EA0-D732C7A1847B@mac-access.net> References: <1B006905-0C25-4F24-B294-A729EA4EDCD8@mac-access.net> <6538D259-24C1-48C0-9EA0-D732C7A1847B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <41D9EBC1-1F35-4FFB-B7A4-92D84099CA41@internode.on.net> Thanks for clarifying that and yep! I really! do use Taco HTML Edit for Mac and Notetab Pro for Windows at present. On 19/07/2011, at 3:19 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > On 19 Jul 2011, at 03:35, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > ? Sorry, haven't been following this thread, I use Taco HTML Edit here, won't that do what you want? Its good if we have more than one accessible piece of software for any one job so not complaining in the slightest . > > You "Use" Taco HTML edit? Really? ;-) > To answer your question; no. Taco will not do what we need; not easily anyway. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Tue Jul 19 08:24:30 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:24:30 +0100 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <9732ACE9-5E4F-4138-AF93-F6803DD353BF@bluebottle.com> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> <08F380B0-1516-4808-8727-66B13C000770@bluebottle.com> <9DB96217-D069-4C95-BC04-D8C643C4F590@mac-access.net> <9732ACE9-5E4F-4138-AF93-F6803DD353BF@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <287F1134-1DD1-46FD-A016-D4D189E8B268@mac-access.net> Hello Krystal You're obviously getting yourself very frustrated here. I have used DVD Remaster to create a DVD using an M4V movie so I know for a fact that it does work. Lynne On 19 Jul 2011, at 07:18, krystal watson wrote: i tryed that it does not like the mp4 v format sad smiley i don't know what to do it looks like my nephew is never going to get his dvd if only there was something that would work that was vo friendly i dvd is on every mac but is not liked by vo i am trying every thing but not haveing any luck this really sucks that i can not get the dvd made its so hard to explain this to a 3 year old why he has not yet got the dvd i have promaced him sorry if i am being anoying this is just frustrating his mother has so many more for me to burn to but so far no luck someting has to be out there to do this sorry From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jul 19 08:23:52 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:23:52 +1000 Subject: Units app for Iphone/Ipad Message-ID: Hi! I'm glad to see that this app has an update available for it which I downloaded this morning, fapp now features more conversions than it did before. App is available free from the Itunes store. Sent from my iPad From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jul 19 08:25:08 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:25:08 +1000 Subject: HTML Editing Message-ID: Just curious, is there any form of accessible HTML editing app for the Iphone or Ipad? Sent from my iPad From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 19 08:27:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:27:12 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing; Was [Exciting News] In-Reply-To: <41D9EBC1-1F35-4FFB-B7A4-92D84099CA41@internode.on.net> References: <1B006905-0C25-4F24-B294-A729EA4EDCD8@mac-access.net> <6538D259-24C1-48C0-9EA0-D732C7A1847B@mac-access.net> <41D9EBC1-1F35-4FFB-B7A4-92D84099CA41@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <40884A6C-A732-42A2-AC0A-321A428A0BE0@mac-access.net> Hello Dane I was joking, I hope you didn't take that seriously. :) Yes, there are a lot of occasions where Taco just doesn't cut it. We need more sophisticated things than just basic tables and frames and the like which Gordon is well up to coding by hand. Lynne On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:01, Dane Trethowan wrote: Thanks for clarifying that and yep! I really! do use Taco HTML Edit for Mac and Notetab Pro for Windows at present. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 19 08:27:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:27:57 +0100 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <287F1134-1DD1-46FD-A016-D4D189E8B268@mac-access.net> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> <08F380B0-1516-4808-8727-66B13C000770@bluebottle.com> <9DB96217-D069-4C95-BC04-D8C643C4F590@mac-access.net> <9732ACE9-5E4F-4138-AF93-F6803DD353BF@bluebottle.com> <287F1134-1DD1-46FD-A016-D4D189E8B268@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9F1E1E64-ACDB-4C46-A4A6-2C60FC34282D@mac-access.net> Hello Krystal Sorry; forgot to change accounts. Lynne On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:24, Gordon Smith wrote: Hello Krystal You're obviously getting yourself very frustrated here. I have used DVD Remaster to create a DVD using an M4V movie so I know for a fact that it does work. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 19 08:29:10 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:29:10 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5FE104A8-EB9E-4674-95E5-E947BDD2C9B0@mac-access.net> Hello Dane On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:25, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? Just curious, is there any form of accessible HTML editing app for the Iphone or iPad?That's a good question actually; I must investigate that. Lynne From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jul 19 08:29:29 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:29:29 +1000 Subject: Voiceover Hotspots Message-ID: <62DCB878-9333-462A-85AC-DA138E4DAF65@internode.on.net> Hi! If anyone's interested there's a discussion of the Hotspots function in Voiceover for the Mac at References: <5FE104A8-EB9E-4674-95E5-E947BDD2C9B0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4E256C8A.8010604@internode.on.net> 'm sure there are plenty of HTML editing tools particularly for the Ipad out there, wearing the shoes of someone with sight I couldn't think of anything better than an Ipad for editing HTML but that's only the beginning isn't it , finding such a product that a person with little or no vision can use could be a completely different story altogether. On 19/07/2011 5:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:25, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > ? Just curious, is there any form of accessible HTML editing app for the Iphone or iPad?That's a good question actually; I must investigate that. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From tsiegel at softcon.com Tue Jul 19 12:37:03 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:37:03 -0400 Subject: daisy player In-Reply-To: <0B7848D0-1BB6-49E9-AE47-862C7DCB8DBB@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <20110719044616.3365.49140@domU-12-31-38-04-0E-D6.compute-1.internal> <0B7848D0-1BB6-49E9-AE47-862C7DCB8DBB@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > > http://www.gh-accessibility.com/news/gh-releases-first-ever-daisy- > player-mac Well, other than their claim that they're the first ever daisy player for the mac, the read here software does work according to others on the list. Of course, if you were around back when Katie player was released, and you have a key for that, then you can read daisy books with that too, but I guess read here wasn't paying attention to the mac in 2005. :) If you don't have encrypted content, the one from Greg Kearney works fairly well too, so is definitely worth a look. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 19 12:43:11 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:43:11 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing In-Reply-To: <4E256C8A.8010604@internode.on.net> References: <5FE104A8-EB9E-4674-95E5-E947BDD2C9B0@mac-access.net> <4E256C8A.8010604@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <20212121-4D56-4FFB-AF1C-36CC1E196497@mac-access.net> Hello Dane I personally can't see the attraction. Not unless you're working away from the main machines; in which case, yes; it would be a useful add-on. But again, lily if you have access to your main data. But to each their own. Lynne On 19 Jul 2011, at 12:37, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? 'm sure there are plenty of HTML editing tools particularly for the Ipad out there, wearing the shoes of someone with sight I couldn't think of anything better than an Ipad for editing HTML but that's only the beginning isn't it , finding such a product that a person with little or no vision can use could be a completely different story altogether. From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jul 19 12:46:13 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:46:13 +1000 Subject: HTML Editing In-Reply-To: <20212121-4D56-4FFB-AF1C-36CC1E196497@mac-access.net> References: <5FE104A8-EB9E-4674-95E5-E947BDD2C9B0@mac-access.net> <4E256C8A.8010604@internode.on.net> <20212121-4D56-4FFB-AF1C-36CC1E196497@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4E256E85.8090602@internode.on.net> Using the Ipad away from a main machine is in the front of my consideration when talking about how good an app would be for an Ipad, after all! isn't that the whole idea of an Ipad? You use it away from your main computer even though an Ipad is not defined as a computer by Apple at least . On 19/07/2011 9:43 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > I personally can't see the attraction. Not unless you're working away from the main machines; in which case, yes; it would be a useful add-on. But again, lily if you have access to your main data. But to each their own. > > Lynne > > On 19 Jul 2011, at 12:37, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > ? 'm sure there are plenty of HTML editing tools particularly for the Ipad out there, wearing the shoes of someone with sight I couldn't think of anything better than an Ipad for editing HTML but that's only the beginning isn't it, finding such a product that a person with little or no vision can use could be a completely different story altogether. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 19 12:50:45 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:50:45 +0100 Subject: daisy player In-Reply-To: References: <20110719044616.3365.49140@domU-12-31-38-04-0E-D6.compute-1.internal> <0B7848D0-1BB6-49E9-AE47-862C7DCB8DBB@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <427E61DA-214F-49DF-AE1F-2B84FD74AB1F@mac-access.net> Hello Travis The problem with the freeware Olearia player from where I stand is that it isn't possible to maintain a library. That may not be a problem for everybody; and for most stuff Olearia might work well. But having used both ReadHear which, by the way, you are spelling wrongly, and also Olearia, I have come to appreciate the library. Gordon and I sometimes listen to audio books; not often, but sometimes. But we find the library interface useful. Now, your spelling. Read, Hear, as in did you hear that story? Lynne On 19 Jul 2011, at 12:37, Travis Siegel wrote: Well, other than their claim that they're the first ever daisy player for the mac, the read here software does work according to others on the list. Of course, if you were around back when Katie player was released, and you have a key for that, then you can read daisy books with that too, but I guess read here wasn't paying attention to the mac in 2005. :) If you don't have encrypted content, the one from Greg Kearney works fairly well too, so is definitely worth a look. From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jul 19 12:57:21 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:57:21 +1000 Subject: Training with Iphone 4 and Ipad for deaf-blind people in Victoria Australia Message-ID: <4E257121.5030503@internode.on.net> Hi! I received a message from the Ablelink organisation regarding training for deaf-blind people with the Iphone 4 and Ipad. I cannot forward this message to the list so I'll quote the contact details so if anyone in Victoria Australia is interested in further details you can follow this training opportunity up. The purchase of the Iphone 4 and Ipad for Ablelink was moade possible by a donation to the organisation. For more details contact: Claire Tellefson Co-ordinator Ablelink Level 3, Ross House 247 Flinders Lane, 3000 Phone: Voice 9654 7133 Phone: TTY 9639 7900 Phone: Braille TTY 9654 8544 Fax: 9654 8544 claire.tellefson at ableaustralia.org.au www.ableaustralia.org.au -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 19 13:02:04 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:02:04 +0100 Subject: HTML Editing In-Reply-To: <4E256E85.8090602@internode.on.net> References: <5FE104A8-EB9E-4674-95E5-E947BDD2C9B0@mac-access.net> <4E256C8A.8010604@internode.on.net> <20212121-4D56-4FFB-AF1C-36CC1E196497@mac-access.net> <4E256E85.8090602@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hello Dane Let me put this another way then, since it seems to be necessary. If you're intending to do development away from base, then yes; an HTML editor would be useful for the iPad. But the problem might be testing your code. It may not always be practicable to do that while portable and you'd need to be able to publish or upload your code somewhere otherwise what's the point? If you don't have the 3G version of the iPad then you'll have to wait until you're back within range of your network in order to upload your work to a web directory. Certainly nothing wrong with that; and I'm quite glad we have our iPad. I won't deny that it has proven useful on multiple occasions for working on projects and documents without being confined to using a laptop in the conventional sense. The problem seems to be that on Apple's platforms, there are a few products which don't let you have full accessibility. Sandvox is one of them and Rapid Weaver is another. But I won't go into all that now; as we're trying to sort out something with Sandvox and then we plan to do a demo/review for our website. But yes, I can see the logic if you have some means of testing and/or uploading your code. I'm personally quite glad our iPad has 3G. Lynne On 19 Jul 2011, at 12:46, Dane Trethowan wrote: Using the Ipad away from a main machine is in the front of my consideration when talking about how good an app would be for an Ipad, after all! isn't that the whole idea of an Ipad? You use it away from your main computer even though an Ipad is not defined as a computer by Apple at least . From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Tue Jul 19 16:01:13 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 01:01:13 +1000 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <287F1134-1DD1-46FD-A016-D4D189E8B268@mac-access.net> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> <08F380B0-1516-4808-8727-66B13C000770@bluebottle.com> <9DB96217-D069-4C95-BC04-D8C643C4F590@mac-access.net> <9732ACE9-5E4F-4138-AF93-F6803DD353BF@bluebottle.com> <287F1134-1DD1-46FD-A016-D4D189E8B268@mac-access.net> Message-ID: its all individual mp4v files does this matter? sorry i just have never used the prodoct before and when it said that the folder of movies was not a valid sorce i got scared should i buy the product first? just trying the demmo does that make any difference? On 19/07/2011, at 5:24 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Krystal > > You're obviously getting yourself very frustrated here. I have used DVD Remaster to create a DVD using an M4V movie so I know for a fact that it does work. > > Lynne > > On 19 Jul 2011, at 07:18, krystal watson wrote: > > i tryed that it does not like the mp4 v format sad smiley i don't know what to do it looks like my nephew is never going to get his dvd if only there was something that would work that was vo friendly i dvd is on every mac but is not liked by vo i am trying every thing but not haveing any luck this really sucks that i can not get the dvd made its so hard to explain this to a 3 year old why he has not yet got the dvd i have promaced him sorry if i am being anoying this is just frustrating his mother has so many more for me to burn to but so far no luck someting has to be out there to do this sorry > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jul 19 16:14:25 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:14:25 +0100 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> <08F380B0-1516-4808-8727-66B13C000770@bluebottle.com> <9DB96217-D069-4C95-BC04-D8C643C4F590@mac-access.net> <9732ACE9-5E4F-4138-AF93-F6803DD353BF@bluebottle.com> <287F1134-1DD1-46FD-A016-D4D189E8B268@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Krystal OK, if you're trying to author individual files that's going to complicate things. It should be possible but I'm not 100% sure as I've never tried it that way. I would be happy to do it for you if you like and send you the resulting content? If so, contact me off list and we'll arrange something Believe me, I am trying to genuinely help you. . Lynne On 19 Jul 2011, at 16:01, krystal watson wrote: its all individual mp4v files does this matter? sorry i just have never used the prodoct before and when it said that the folder of movies was not a valid sorce i got scared should i buy the product first? just trying the demmo does that make any difference? On 19/07/2011, at 5:24 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Krystal > > You're obviously getting yourself very frustrated here. I have used DVD Remaster to create a DVD using an M4V movie so I know for a fact that it does work. > > Lynne > > On 19 Jul 2011, at 07:18, krystal watson wrote: > > i tryed that it does not like the mp4 v format sad smiley i don't know what to do it looks like my nephew is never going to get his dvd if only there was something that would work that was vo friendly i dvd is on every mac but is not liked by vo i am trying every thing but not haveing any luck this really sucks that i can not get the dvd made its so hard to explain this to a 3 year old why he has not yet got the dvd i have promaced him sorry if i am being anoying this is just frustrating his mother has so many more for me to burn to but so far no luck someting has to be out there to do this sorry > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Tue Jul 19 16:33:30 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 01:33:30 +1000 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <287F1134-1DD1-46FD-A016-D4D189E8B268@mac-access.net> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> <08F380B0-1516-4808-8727-66B13C000770@bluebottle.com> <9DB96217-D069-4C95-BC04-D8C643C4F590@mac-access.net> <9732ACE9-5E4F-4138-AF93-F6803DD353BF@bluebottle.com> <287F1134-1DD1-46FD-A016-D4D189E8B268@mac-access.net> Message-ID: ok this is the error i got when adding my folder of mp4 v files to both the pro and standard version of dvd rrmasterd can some one please help if they can please note it is the free version DVDRemaster dialog alert This item does not appear to be a valid DVD Media bundle or VIDEO_TS folder, please choose another one. On 19/07/2011, at 5:24 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Krystal > > You're obviously getting yourself very frustrated here. I have used DVD Remaster to create a DVD using an M4V movie so I know for a fact that it does work. > > Lynne > > On 19 Jul 2011, at 07:18, krystal watson wrote: > > i tryed that it does not like the mp4 v format sad smiley i don't know what to do it looks like my nephew is never going to get his dvd if only there was something that would work that was vo friendly i dvd is on every mac but is not liked by vo i am trying every thing but not haveing any luck this really sucks that i can not get the dvd made its so hard to explain this to a 3 year old why he has not yet got the dvd i have promaced him sorry if i am being anoying this is just frustrating his mother has so many more for me to burn to but so far no luck someting has to be out there to do this sorry > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Tue Jul 19 16:35:00 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 01:35:00 +1000 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: <9F1E1E64-ACDB-4C46-A4A6-2C60FC34282D@mac-access.net> References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> <08F380B0-1516-4808-8727-66B13C000770@bluebottle.com> <9DB96217-D069-4C95-BC04-D8C643C4F590@mac-access.net> <9732ACE9-5E4F-4138-AF93-F6803DD353BF@bluebottle.com> <287F1134-1DD1-46FD-A016-D4D189E8B268@mac-access.net> <9F1E1E64-ACDB-4C46 -A4A6-2C60FC34282D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: that is ok smiles sorry if i am being difficult On 19/07/2011, at 5:27 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Krystal > > Sorry; forgot to change accounts. > > Lynne > > On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:24, Gordon Smith wrote: > > Hello Krystal > > You're obviously getting yourself very frustrated here. I have used DVD Remaster to create a DVD using an M4V movie so I know for a fact that it does work. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Tue Jul 19 16:39:40 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 01:39:40 +1000 Subject: Burning Data In-Reply-To: References: <400B89CB-AD5F-4096-812E-F8910F45A258@me.com> <10A0547A-7A11-43BD-A509-1BB23A9DC87B@mac-access.net> <24895604-9AC5-4663-B2E7-48799D22AAEC@gmail.com> <5F653E57-B818-489D-879F-96A8485DB6D9@mac-access.net> <4632C982-9DFB-4CCA-8D3D-EA992664DDB1@bluebottle.com> <75AC1AF8-E64A-46B2-AFDC-D449C9F4BE91@mac-access.net> <5ECAC16D-03D8-48F1-8FBB-23BA6195513A@bluebottle.com> <921407EA-A6B9-4792-A2DC-5B509D36E118@mac-access.net> <950893D6-47D8-4A81-BEA2-7DC279C08BA4@bluebottle.com> <0111FD2E-9E7B-4034-84BC-385009385B9B@bluebottle.com> <0F2AD889-EDF4-47BD-8553-7E920C994A38@mac-access.net> <6BBC8F5E-E736-496D-85F0-B878F58D830B@bluebottle.com> <08F380B0-1516-4808-8727-66B13C000770@bluebottle.com> <9DB96217-D069-4C95-BC04-D8C643C4F590@mac-access.net> <9732ACE9-5E4F-4138-AF93-F6803DD353BF@bluebottle.com> <287F1134-1DD1-46FD-A016-D4D189E8B268@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <43F12D14-85A0-455D-AC89-7DA6A485DC92@bluebottle.com> sorry didn't know it had to be one file as it done on i pbone its lots of little movies i don't know how to do this i wish i was smarter and could do it On 20/07/2011, at 1:14 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Krystal > > > OK, if you're trying to author individual files that's going to complicate things. It should be possible but I'm not 100% sure as I've never tried it that way. I would be happy to do it for you if you like and send you the resulting content? If so, contact me off list and we'll arrange something Believe me, I am trying to genuinely help you. > ... > > Lynne > > On 19 Jul 2011, at 16:01, krystal watson wrote: > > its all individual mp4v files does this matter? sorry i just have never used the prodoct before and when it said that the folder of movies was not a valid sorce i got scared should i buy the product first? just trying the demmo does that make any difference? > On 19/07/2011, at 5:24 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hello Krystal >> >> You're obviously getting yourself very frustrated here. I have used DVD Remaster to create a DVD using an M4V movie so I know for a fact that it does work. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 19 Jul 2011, at 07:18, krystal watson wrote: >> >> i tryed that it does not like the mp4 v format sad smiley i don't know what to do it looks like my nephew is never going to get his dvd if only there was something that would work that was vo friendly i dvd is on every mac but is not liked by vo i am trying every thing but not haveing any luck this really sucks that i can not get the dvd made its so hard to explain this to a 3 year old why he has not yet got the dvd i have promaced him sorry if i am being anoying this is just frustrating his mother has so many more for me to burn to but so far no luck someting has to be out there to do this sorry >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jul 19 17:06:15 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:06:15 -0300 Subject: numeric keypad question. Message-ID: <64405E036A8F481F89B1CBA74EA46A3E@CNIBnotebook> Hi Folks: Using a standard Apple extended keyboard, I tried entering numbers in to the Skype DialPad via the numeric key pad. I was unable to do it so I had to use the top row numbers. How does one use that keypad to enter numbers? Thanks gang. From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jul 19 17:17:18 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:17:18 -0300 Subject: numeric keypad question. Message-ID: Hi Gang: Disregard the previous post. Apparently , the mouse keys were activated. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Noseworthy To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:06 PM Subject: numeric keypad question. Hi Folks: Using a standard Apple extended keyboard, I tried entering numbers in to the Skype DialPad via the numeric key pad. I was unable to do it so I had to use the top row numbers. How does one use that keypad to enter numbers? Thanks gang. From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jul 19 17:33:40 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:33:40 -0300 Subject: word completion suggestions in Skype. Message-ID: Hi Folks: How does one turn off the "word completion suggestions list" while trying to enter information in Skype such as dialing numbers? Thanks all over the place gang. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jul 19 18:17:00 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:17:00 -0700 Subject: word completion suggestions in Skype. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E3935FD-0943-495E-9821-88400ECB3C91@gmail.com> go to edit and spelling then check , or in this case, uncheckspelling while I type. On Jul 19, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > How does one turn off the "word completion suggestions list" while trying to enter information in Skype such as dialing numbers? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Jul 19 19:02:31 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:02:31 +0100 Subject: spell check in pages Message-ID: <9072C268-D1B8-42AB-9C4A-99E169F34098@virginmedia.com> hi all was doing a letter in pages and pressed cmd and ; to bring up spell checker box/ table and it was no where on the page ??? hmm any ideas also when you type on the second page in pages it makes a wooshing sound hard to to describe anyone else had this sorry it its already been posted but i have been away and had to delete mass emails thanks n advance jules :) From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jul 19 19:09:09 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:09:09 +0100 Subject: spell check in pages In-Reply-To: <9072C268-D1B8-42AB-9C4A-99E169F34098@virginmedia.com> References: <9072C268-D1B8-42AB-9C4A-99E169F34098@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <440A43C6-F336-4BDD-84A3-8E0A9E0D1E59@googlemail.com> yep i get the same thing when you get to a second page and your typing. the only way i've found to solve it is ither close the document and reopen it again or turn voice over off and on and that's how i've fixed it. never used the spell check in pages before yet did not know how to do it untill now. Ian smiley. From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Jul 19 19:31:07 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:31:07 +0100 Subject: spell check in pages In-Reply-To: <9072C268-D1B8-42AB-9C4A-99E169F34098@virginmedia.com> References: <9072C268-D1B8-42AB-9C4A-99E169F34098@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <1674A8DA-AF66-499F-9098-7228F5B2712D@mac-access.net> Hi Jules, The spell checker can be brought up with Command+Shit+Semi Colon. You should then be able to focus directly on it. If for some reason though you aren't focused on it. use the Window Chooser Menu. Bring this up by pressing VoiceOver keys +F2 (F2 should be pressed twice in quick succession). As for the whooshing sound you describe, I get this two and it happens when you transition from one page to another. You can stop this by simply using the arrow keys to go back up to the previous line or page and then back again. You might also have found that when you try to read by line or sentence, that VoiceOver does not work as you expect. To overcome this, make sure that your cursor is at the beginning of the line. HTH TC :) James On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:02, Julie Vaughan wrote: > hi all > > was doing a letter in pages and pressed cmd and ; to bring up spell checker box/ table and it was no where on the page ??? hmm any ideas > > also when you type on the second page in pages it makes a wooshing sound hard to to describe anyone else had this sorry it its already been posted but i have been away and had to delete mass emails > > thanks n advance > > jules :) > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Jul 19 19:50:34 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:50:34 +0100 Subject: mac pro query Message-ID: <5247CA8D-980B-46C6-AEF9-B20E453EBA40@computing.dcu.ie> Just wondering if anyone is using one of these lovely beasts? Do the new ones come with Thunderbolt ports as yet? D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From david.mclean at cox.net Tue Jul 19 20:54:29 2011 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:54:29 -0400 Subject: mac pro query In-Reply-To: <5247CA8D-980B-46C6-AEF9-B20E453EBA40@computing.dcu.ie> References: <5247CA8D-980B-46C6-AEF9-B20E453EBA40@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: I use a mac pro as my main computer. It's from early 2010 though so I can't speak about the new ones. I think a new one is on the horizon though. On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:50 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Just wondering if anyone is using one of these lovely beasts? Do the new ones come with Thunderbolt ports as yet? > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Jul 19 21:15:26 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:15:26 +0100 Subject: mac pro query In-Reply-To: References: <5247CA8D-980B-46C6-AEF9-B20E453EBA40@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <8C0EE00A-8550-4921-BF3B-C0347884A1F9@computing.dcu.ie> Thanks David. How do you find it as a machine? On 19 Jul 2011, at 20:54, David McLean wrote: > I use a mac pro as my main computer. It's from early 2010 though so I can't speak about the new ones. I think a new one is on the horizon though. > On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:50 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Just wondering if anyone is using one of these lovely beasts? Do the new ones come with Thunderbolt ports as yet? >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jul 19 22:20:11 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:20:11 -0300 Subject: word completion suggestions in Skype. In-Reply-To: <0E3935FD-0943-495E-9821-88400ECB3C91@gmail.com> References: <0E3935FD-0943-495E-9821-88400ECB3C91@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8B909FCA1EEA4730B5EAEA430E784868@MainComputer> Hello Sarah: That option is unchecked on both Macs that I use but still I get the same results. If I am in the dial pad and begin to enter numbers, I receive a word completion suggestion list where I can cursor down to a previous number that I called. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: Re: word completion suggestions in Skype. > go to edit and spelling then check , or in this case, uncheckspelling > while I type. > On Jul 19, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> How does one turn off the "word completion suggestions list" while trying >> to enter information in Skype such as dialing numbers? >> >> Thanks all over the place gang. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact > me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6308 (20110719) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6308 (20110719) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Jul 19 22:42:40 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:42:40 +0100 Subject: spell check in pages In-Reply-To: <440A43C6-F336-4BDD-84A3-8E0A9E0D1E59@googlemail.com> References: <9072C268-D1B8-42AB-9C4A-99E169F34098@virginmedia.com> <440A43C6-F336-4BDD-84A3-8E0A9E0D1E59@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <3D0B77E6-2277-48D2-944C-570AACB1582A@virginmedia.com> thanks ian i'll try that smiley On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:09, Ian McNamara wrote: > yep i get the same thing when you get to a second page and your typing. the only way i've found to solve it is ither close the document and reopen it again or turn voice over off and on and that's how i've fixed it. never used the spell check in pages before yet did not know how to do it untill now. > > Ian smiley. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Jul 19 22:43:11 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:43:11 +0100 Subject: spell check in pages In-Reply-To: <1674A8DA-AF66-499F-9098-7228F5B2712D@mac-access.net> References: <9072C268-D1B8-42AB-9C4A-99E169F34098@virginmedia.com> <1674A8DA-AF66-499F-9098-7228F5B2712D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0336E5C1-18D6-4520-88C6-6D524CA4DD2A@virginmedia.com> thanks james ill keep this email as a back up smiles jules On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:31, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Jules, > > The spell checker can be brought up with Command+Shit+Semi Colon. You should then be able to focus directly on it. If for some reason though you aren't focused on it. use the Window Chooser Menu. Bring this up by pressing VoiceOver keys +F2 (F2 should be pressed twice in quick succession). > > As for the whooshing sound you describe, I get this two and it happens when you transition from one page to another. You can stop this by simply using the arrow keys to go back up to the previous line or page and then back again. You might also have found that when you try to read by line or sentence, that VoiceOver does not work as you expect. To overcome this, make sure that your cursor is at the beginning of the line. > > HTH > TC :) > James > On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:02, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> hi all >> >> was doing a letter in pages and pressed cmd and ; to bring up spell checker box/ table and it was no where on the page ??? hmm any ideas >> >> also when you type on the second page in pages it makes a wooshing sound hard to to describe anyone else had this sorry it its already been posted but i have been away and had to delete mass emails >> >> thanks n advance >> >> jules :) >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jul 19 23:01:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:01:27 -0700 Subject: word completion suggestions in Skype. In-Reply-To: <8B909FCA1EEA4730B5EAEA430E784868@MainComputer> References: <0E3935FD-0943-495E-9821-88400ECB3C91@gmail.com> <8B909FCA1EEA4730B5EAEA430E784868@MainComputer> Message-ID: <92E93A41-822B-4803-BDFB-E54A7F0103A3@gmail.com> Oh that? I'm not sure but you could try the prefs menu and see of anything is there. On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hello Sarah: > > That option is unchecked on both Macs that I use but still I get the same results. If I am in the dial pad and begin to enter numbers, I receive a word completion suggestion list where I can cursor down to a previous number that I called. > > Thanks. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:17 PM > Subject: Re: word completion suggestions in Skype. > > >> go to edit and spelling then check , or in this case, uncheckspelling while I type. >> On Jul 19, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> How does one turn off the "word completion suggestions list" while trying to enter information in Skype such as dialing numbers? >>> >>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6308 (20110719) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6308 (20110719) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From krbarry at gmail.com Tue Jul 19 23:32:23 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:32:23 -0400 Subject: mac pro query In-Reply-To: <5247CA8D-980B-46C6-AEF9-B20E453EBA40@computing.dcu.ie> References: <5247CA8D-980B-46C6-AEF9-B20E453EBA40@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <4e2605ff.4249340a.1313.ffff9a11@mx.google.com> No word yet on hardware updates to the Pro. No thunderbolt for now at least. At 02:50 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: >Just wondering if anyone is using one of these >lovely beasts? Do the new ones come with Thunderbolt ports as yet? > >D?nal >D?nal Fitzpatrick >dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your >message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all >messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed >malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership >options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Jul 19 23:34:41 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:34:41 +0100 Subject: mac pro query In-Reply-To: <4e2605ff.4249340a.1313.ffff9a11@mx.google.com> References: <5247CA8D-980B-46C6-AEF9-B20E453EBA40@computing.dcu.ie> <4e2605ff.4249340a.1313.ffff9a11@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <7EFFEC02-7BD0-4995-BF8B-77BB2CC5884E@computing.dcu.ie> I'll hold fire so. On 19 Jul 2011, at 23:32, Kevin Barry wrote: > No word yet on hardware updates to the Pro. > No thunderbolt for now at least. > > At 02:50 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: >> Just wondering if anyone is using one of these lovely beasts? Do the new ones come with Thunderbolt ports as yet? >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From david.mclean at cox.net Wed Jul 20 00:43:20 2011 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:43:20 -0400 Subject: mac pro query In-Reply-To: <8C0EE00A-8550-4921-BF3B-C0347884A1F9@computing.dcu.ie> References: <5247CA8D-980B-46C6-AEF9-B20E453EBA40@computing.dcu.ie> <8C0EE00A-8550-4921-BF3B-C0347884A1F9@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <338DF063-E330-4342-90BB-50934C13831D@cox.net> I like it a lot. I have several other macs but the mac pro is the one I use primarily. It is noticeably quicker than any other machine I have and it is very quiet considering how large it is. I also like the fact it has toslink in and out not the funky mini connectors the other macs have. Also has 4 drive bays and I have drives in eachone. On Jul 19, 2011, at 4:15 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Thanks David. How do you find it as a machine? > On 19 Jul 2011, at 20:54, David McLean wrote: > >> I use a mac pro as my main computer. It's from early 2010 though so I can't speak about the new ones. I think a new one is on the horizon though. >> On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:50 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Just wondering if anyone is using one of these lovely beasts? Do the new ones come with Thunderbolt ports as yet? >>> >>> D?nal >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 01:10:01 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:10:01 -0400 Subject: mac pro query In-Reply-To: <7EFFEC02-7BD0-4995-BF8B-77BB2CC5884E@computing.dcu.ie> References: <5247CA8D-980B-46C6-AEF9-B20E453EBA40@computing.dcu.ie> <4e2605ff.4249340a.1313.ffff9a11@mx.google.com> <7EFFEC02-7BD0-4995-BF8B-77BB2CC5884E@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <4e261cf9.6374340a.4cb1.ffff9a8d@mx.google.com> I believe that would be wise. KB At 06:34 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: >I'll hold fire so. >On 19 Jul 2011, at 23:32, Kevin Barry wrote: > > > No word yet on hardware updates to the Pro. > > No thunderbolt for now at least. > > > > At 02:50 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: > >> Just wondering if anyone is using one of > these lovely beasts? Do the new ones come with Thunderbolt ports as yet? > >> > >> D?nal > >> D?nal Fitzpatrick > >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > >> > >> > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your > message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of > all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed > malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership > options periodically by visiting the list website at: > >> > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your > message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of > all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed > malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership > options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > >D?nal Fitzpatrick >dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your >message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all >messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed >malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership >options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Wed Jul 20 01:18:13 2011 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (michael) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:18:13 +1000 Subject: mac pro query In-Reply-To: <5247CA8D-980B-46C6-AEF9-B20E453EBA40@computing.dcu.ie> References: <5247CA8D-980B-46C6-AEF9-B20E453EBA40@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Yes it does I brought mine last april and love it. I brought the macbook pro with 4 gig of ram just the stanard macbook does not come with thunderbalt. cheers Michael. -----Original Message----- From: D?nal Fitzpatrick Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:50 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: mac pro query Just wondering if anyone is using one of these lovely beasts? Do the new ones come with Thunderbolt ports as yet? D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From krbarry at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 02:36:48 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:36:48 -0400 Subject: mac pro query In-Reply-To: References: <5247CA8D-980B-46C6-AEF9-B20E453EBA40@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <4e263138.6374340a.4caa.ffff9fbe@mx.google.com> It appears, the regular Mac Book may be discontinued. We shall see soon enough if that is so. Kevin At 08:18 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: >Yes it does I brought mine last april and love it. >I brought the macbook pro with 4 gig of ram just >the stanard macbook does not come with thunderbalt. >cheers Michael. > >-----Original Message----- From: D?nal Fitzpatrick >Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:50 AM >To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >Subject: mac pro query > >Just wondering if anyone is using one of these >lovely beasts? Do the new ones come with Thunderbolt ports as yet? > >D?nal >D?nal Fitzpatrick >dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your >message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all >messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed >malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership >options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your >message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all >messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed >malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership >options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Jul 20 04:37:08 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 13:37:08 +1000 Subject: OS X Lion Can Be Clean Installed At Boot-Up, No Snow Leopard Required | Cult of Mac Message-ID: <4E264D64.5000002@internode.on.net> Hi! Mac OSX Lion is supposed to be released tomorrow and as we all seem to know you'll be able to download the Operating system from the App Store, so far so good. So what happens if you need to recover your system for some reason or do a clean install of Lion? The linked article explains more. -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Jul 20 14:55:21 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:55:21 +0200 Subject: Lion is now available Message-ID: Hello everyone, Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. Cheers, Anne From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Jul 20 14:56:54 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:56:54 -0300 Subject: Lion is now available References: Message-ID: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> Yep: It's happening as we speak. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM Subject: Lion is now available > Hello everyone, > > Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 15:00:22 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:00:22 -0400 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: Hi, I'm now installing it as I write this note, the download took a little under an hour. I think this will be very cool. Courtney Sent from my iPod On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:56 AM, "Jim Noseworthy" wrote: > Yep: > > It's happening as we speak. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM > Subject: Lion is now available > > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 17:08:03 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:08:03 -0700 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: I think I'll wait. Apple's servers are being hammered and I'm on a 6 mb down connection but I only get about 1 mb down this morning so I think I'll probably wait until evening when I"m boostable up to 10 mbps lol! I can't wait. After that I'm probably going ot get a dvd from wallmart and burnt dmg they recommend to make a bootable disk in cse I loose the file or something. Take care. On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Yep: > > It's happening as we speak. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM > Subject: Lion is now available > > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 17:08:44 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:08:44 -0700 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: lol. On my connection I think it will take about 4 but I'm very excited and can't wait to see how everything works. I think I might podcast my first impressions even though I'm supposed to be on a break lol! Take care all and can't wait. On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I'm now installing it as I write this note, the download took a little under an hour. I think this will be very cool. > Courtney > > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:56 AM, "Jim Noseworthy" wrote: > >> Yep: >> >> It's happening as we speak. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM >> Subject: Lion is now available >> >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 17:14:17 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:14:17 +0100 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> Hello Jim & all I hope you enjoy the new features of VoiceOver. Lynne On 20 Jul 2011, at 14:56, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Yep: It's happening as we speak. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM Subject: Lion is now available > Hello everyone, > > Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gunn at tznet.com Wed Jul 20 17:15:13 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (gunn at tznet.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:15:13 -0400 Subject: Lion is now available Message-ID: <380-220117320161513921@M2W140.mail2web.com> Hello: Regarding burning the disk image to a disk, that's just copying the image to the DVE but doesn't mean you can boot from the DVD. John Original Message: ----------------- From: Sarah Alawami marrie12 at gmail.com Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:08:03 -0700 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Re: Lion is now available I think I'll wait. Apple's servers are being hammered and I'm on a 6 mb down connection but I only get about 1 mb down this morning so I think I'll probably wait until evening when I"m boostable up to 10 mbps lol! I can't wait. After that I'm probably going ot get a dvd from wallmart and burnt dmg they recommend to make a bootable disk in cse I loose the file or something. Take care. On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Yep: > > It's happening as we speak. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM > Subject: Lion is now available > > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. 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From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Jul 20 17:28:32 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 13:28:32 -0300 Subject: Lion is now available References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <12EC67D6A2B64CBFA15D6BCE62BF46A0@CNIBnotebook> Thanks Lynne. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Lion is now available > Hello Jim & all > > I hope you enjoy the new features of VoiceOver. > > Lynne > > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 14:56, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > > Yep: > > It's happening as we speak. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM > Subject: Lion is now available > > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Wed Jul 20 17:55:55 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:55:55 +0100 Subject: What is this Lion and should I heard of it? hahaha Message-ID: Hi All! Well I'll join those of you who have Lion as soon as finances allow! So looking forward to peoples views! And because I'll have to wait I'll also here about problems! But I really hope all you who get it a good experience and some fun as well! Colin From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 18:08:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:08:18 -0700 Subject: What is this Lion and should I heard of it? hahaha In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a good feeling about lion. Apple tries there best to put out superb products and they actually respond when you submit bugs or access questions to them. I've delta with many apple support staff over a year and a few months and I am impressed. Take care all. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi All! > Well I'll join those of you who have Lion as soon as finances allow! > So looking forward to peoples views! > And because I'll have to wait I'll also here about problems! > But I really hope all you who get it a good experience and some fun as well! > Colin > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 18:08:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:08:48 -0700 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> I hear that there is a drag and drop thing. How hard is it to use and is it possible to even use? Take care. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Jim & all > > I hope you enjoy the new features of VoiceOver. > > Lynne > > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 14:56, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > > Yep: > > It's happening as we speak. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM > Subject: Lion is now available > > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 18:10:46 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:10:46 -0700 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <380-220117320161513921@M2W140.mail2web.com> References: <380-220117320161513921@M2W140.mail2web.com> Message-ID: Actually the article i read sais you can make a bootable dvd with disk utility. download the installer files to your hard drive. Once you have the installer files, follow these steps to create your very own boot disc: ? Use Finder to locate the Mac OS X Lion installer, right-click and select "Show Package Contents." ? Find the SharedSupport folder and look for a file named "InstallESD.dmg." This is the Lion Boot Disc image. ? Copy the "InstallESD.dmg" file to another folder, such as your desktop. ? Launch Disk Utility and click the burn button. ? Select the "InstallESD.dmg" copy as the image to burn, insert a DVD, and in a few minutes, you will have a brand new Lion Boot Disc. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:15 AM, gunn at tznet.com wrote: > Hello: > > Regarding burning the disk image to a disk, that's just copying the image > to the DVE but doesn't mean you can boot from the DVD. > > John > > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Sarah Alawami marrie12 at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:08:03 -0700 > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Subject: Re: Lion is now available > > > I think I'll wait. Apple's servers are being hammered and I'm on a 6 mb > down connection but I only get about 1 mb down this morning so I think I'll > probably wait until evening when I"m boostable up to 10 mbps lol! > > I can't wait. After that I'm probably going ot get a dvd from wallmart and > burnt dmg they recommend to make a bootable disk in cse I loose the file or > something. > > Take care. > On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Yep: >> >> It's happening as we speak. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM >> Subject: Lion is now available >> >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to > the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact > me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Wed Jul 20 18:12:52 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 03:12:52 +1000 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: yeah but they should sell the disks of it any way so that you don't have to burn it like they do with snow lepped they should sell it as well on the dvd because what if something happens during a install and the mac dies and you loose your copy of it then what do you do from there On 21/07/2011, at 2:08 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I think I'll wait. Apple's servers are being hammered and I'm on a 6 mb down connection but I only get about 1 mb down this morning so I think I'll probably wait until evening when I"m boostable up to 10 mbps lol! > > I can't wait. After that I'm probably going ot get a dvd from wallmart and burnt dmg they recommend to make a bootable disk in cse I loose the file or something. > > Take care. > On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Yep: >> >> It's happening as we speak. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM >> Subject: Lion is now available >> >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 18:14:55 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:14:55 +0200 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: <151A8C94-A719-4BE1-B0CF-EFA3E564C546@gmail.com> Hi! Apple will be selling Lion on USB thumb drives from August at some date I don't remember. SOrry I can't be more specific, although burning it onto a DVD bootable is very easy if you follow instructions, plus DVDs aren't very expensive. At least, they're not that expensive where I live. Regards, Nic On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:12 PM, krystal watson wrote: > yeah but they should sell the disks of it any way so that you don't have to burn it like they do with snow lepped they should sell it as well on the dvd because what if something happens during a install and the mac dies and you loose your copy of it then what do you do from there > On 21/07/2011, at 2:08 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I think I'll wait. Apple's servers are being hammered and I'm on a 6 mb down connection but I only get about 1 mb down this morning so I think I'll probably wait until evening when I"m boostable up to 10 mbps lol! >> >> I can't wait. After that I'm probably going ot get a dvd from wallmart and burnt dmg they recommend to make a bootable disk in cse I loose the file or something. >> >> Take care. >> On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Yep: >>> >>> It's happening as we speak. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM >>> Subject: Lion is now available >>> >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 18:20:35 2011 From: skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com (Kliph&Sharrie) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:20:35 -0500 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: I would asme that your app store account would keep track of your purchases. JMO Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:12 PM, krystal watson wrote: > yeah but they should sell the disks of it any way so that you don't have to burn it like they do with snow lepped they should sell it as well on the dvd because what if something happens during a install and the mac dies and you loose your copy of it then what do you do from there > On 21/07/2011, at 2:08 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I think I'll wait. Apple's servers are being hammered and I'm on a 6 mb down connection but I only get about 1 mb down this morning so I think I'll probably wait until evening when I"m boostable up to 10 mbps lol! >> >> I can't wait. After that I'm probably going ot get a dvd from wallmart and burnt dmg they recommend to make a bootable disk in cse I loose the file or something. >> >> Take care. >> On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Yep: >>> >>> It's happening as we speak. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM >>> Subject: Lion is now available >>> >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris at mysticplace.info Wed Jul 20 18:21:56 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 13:21:56 -0400 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110720132155.0802.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Install snow leopard, then upgrade if you are not able to burn a dvd before your hard drive crashes. Then when your machine is up and running, burn the dvd. Your purchases are tied to your apple id. On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 03:12:52 +1000 krystal watson wrote: > yeah but they should sell the disks of it any way so that you don't have to burn it like they do with snow lepped they should sell it as well on the dvd because what if something happens during a install and the mac dies and you loose your copy of it then what do you do from there > On 21/07/2011, at 2:08 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > > I think I'll wait. Apple's servers are being hammered and I'm on a 6 mb down connection but I only get about 1 mb down this morning so I think I'll probably wait until evening when I"m boostable up to 10 mbps lol! > > > > I can't wait. After that I'm probably going ot get a dvd from wallmart and burnt dmg they recommend to make a bootable disk in cse I loose the file or something. > > > > Take care. > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > > > >> Yep: > >> > >> It's happening as we speak. > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" > >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM > >> Subject: Lion is now available > >> > >> > >>> Hello everyone, > >>> > >>> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Anne > >>> > >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >>> > >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >>> > >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > >>> > >>> > >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >>> > >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > >>> > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > >> > > > > Sarah Alawami > > > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > > > website: http://music.marrie.org > > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 18:26:16 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:26:16 +0200 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <20110720132155.0802.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <20110720132155.0802.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: Hi, it's far from that simple. The installer wipes itself off of your drive when it has been installed, and uses Apple's servers to reinstall Lion when running it off of the recovery partition. Before upgrading or making a clean install, back up the application to external media or pull out the InstallESD.dmg file from Install Mac OS X Lion.app/Contents/SharedSupport, then burn it to a DVD and start off of it. Regards, Nic On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Chris G wrote: > Install snow leopard, then upgrade if you are not able to burn a dvd > before your hard drive crashes. > > Then when your machine is up and running, burn the dvd. > > Your purchases are tied to your apple id. > > On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 03:12:52 +1000 > krystal watson wrote: > >> yeah but they should sell the disks of it any way so that you don't have to burn it like they do with snow lepped they should sell it as well on the dvd because what if something happens during a install and the mac dies and you loose your copy of it then what do you do from there >> On 21/07/2011, at 2:08 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I think I'll wait. Apple's servers are being hammered and I'm on a 6 mb down connection but I only get about 1 mb down this morning so I think I'll probably wait until evening when I"m boostable up to 10 mbps lol! >>> >>> I can't wait. After that I'm probably going ot get a dvd from wallmart and burnt dmg they recommend to make a bootable disk in cse I loose the file or something. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Yep: >>>> >>>> It's happening as we speak. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM >>>> Subject: Lion is now available >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > - > The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. > http://www.mysticplace.info > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From motten53 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 18:30:09 2011 From: motten53 at gmail.com (Mary Otten) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:30:09 -0700 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: <82F3B5F2-A9F8-4CA9-B2B1-A0FB5ADE9A08@gmail.com> There will be a thumb drive version of Lion, but it will run you 70 bucks. mary Mary Otten motten53 at gmail.com From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Wed Jul 20 18:33:24 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 03:33:24 +1000 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: References: <20110720132155.0802.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <20636D77-F06A-4D6F-BE75-05018B65EA4D@bluebottle.com> wow sounds complicated and scary On 21/07/2011, at 3:26 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > it's far from that simple. The installer wipes itself off of your drive when it has been installed, and uses Apple's servers to reinstall Lion when running it off of the recovery partition. Before upgrading or making a clean install, back up the application to external media or pull out the InstallESD.dmg file from Install Mac OS X Lion.app/Contents/SharedSupport, then burn it to a DVD and start off of it. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Chris G wrote: > >> Install snow leopard, then upgrade if you are not able to burn a dvd >> before your hard drive crashes. >> >> Then when your machine is up and running, burn the dvd. >> >> Your purchases are tied to your apple id. >> >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 03:12:52 +1000 >> krystal watson wrote: >> >>> yeah but they should sell the disks of it any way so that you don't have to burn it like they do with snow lepped they should sell it as well on the dvd because what if something happens during a install and the mac dies and you loose your copy of it then what do you do from there >>> On 21/07/2011, at 2:08 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I think I'll wait. Apple's servers are being hammered and I'm on a 6 mb down connection but I only get about 1 mb down this morning so I think I'll probably wait until evening when I"m boostable up to 10 mbps lol! >>>> >>>> I can't wait. After that I'm probably going ot get a dvd from wallmart and burnt dmg they recommend to make a bootable disk in cse I loose the file or something. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yep: >>>>> >>>>> It's happening as we speak. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" >>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM >>>>> Subject: Lion is now available >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Anne >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> >> - >> The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. >> http://www.mysticplace.info >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Jul 20 18:35:48 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:35:48 +0200 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7B8B9BC7-E710-47FE-9BA6-924A1F9E2A7F@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Sarah, You're right, there is Drag&Drop, and it works, mostly. To mark an item for Drag&Drop, press VO-Comma. To drop the item on a folder, for instance, navigate to the folder using the VO keys, then press VO-Period. To drop the item before another item, press VO-Less than, and to drop it after another item, press VO-Greater than. The place where you pick up the item and the place where you drop it must both be visible on the screen. Cheers, anne On 20 Jul 2011, at 19:08, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I hear that there is a drag and drop thing. How hard is it to use and is it possible to even use? From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 18:37:09 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:37:09 -0700 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <20636D77-F06A-4D6F-BE75-05018B65EA4D@bluebottle.com> References: <20110720132155.0802.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> <20636D77-F06A-4D6F-BE75-05018B65EA4D@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <5FCB53AB-C8BF-4D66-BDC5-33DAEB12D331@gmail.com> Not really. I've used disk utility and it's quite simple if you take your time, and go slowly to make sure there are no mistakes. I'm supposed to be on a break on my podcast but I might do this in about a few weeks, when I can go to wallmart and pick up a dvdr On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:33 AM, krystal watson wrote: > wow sounds complicated and scary > On 21/07/2011, at 3:26 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> it's far from that simple. The installer wipes itself off of your drive when it has been installed, and uses Apple's servers to reinstall Lion when running it off of the recovery partition. Before upgrading or making a clean install, back up the application to external media or pull out the InstallESD.dmg file from Install Mac OS X Lion.app/Contents/SharedSupport, then burn it to a DVD and start off of it. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Chris G wrote: >> >>> Install snow leopard, then upgrade if you are not able to burn a dvd >>> before your hard drive crashes. >>> >>> Then when your machine is up and running, burn the dvd. >>> >>> Your purchases are tied to your apple id. >>> >>> On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 03:12:52 +1000 >>> krystal watson wrote: >>> >>>> yeah but they should sell the disks of it any way so that you don't have to burn it like they do with snow lepped they should sell it as well on the dvd because what if something happens during a install and the mac dies and you loose your copy of it then what do you do from there >>>> On 21/07/2011, at 2:08 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think I'll wait. Apple's servers are being hammered and I'm on a 6 mb down connection but I only get about 1 mb down this morning so I think I'll probably wait until evening when I"m boostable up to 10 mbps lol! >>>>> >>>>> I can't wait. After that I'm probably going ot get a dvd from wallmart and burnt dmg they recommend to make a bootable disk in cse I loose the file or something. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yep: >>>>>> >>>>>> It's happening as we speak. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" >>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM >>>>>> Subject: Lion is now available >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>> >>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>> >>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. >>> http://www.mysticplace.info >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Wed Jul 20 18:46:02 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:46:02 +0100 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <20110720132155.0802.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <20110720132155.0802.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <07DFAB32-6587-4364-9726-447D7242C300@googlemail.com> Yep i'm going to get it when i get payed next. will wait till a few people have had a go to find out what it's like first. Ian McNamara From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Wed Jul 20 18:46:29 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:46:29 +0100 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <7B8B9BC7-E710-47FE-9BA6-924A1F9E2A7F@anarchie.org.uk> References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> <7B8B9BC7-E710-47FE-9BA6-924A1F9E2A7F@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Anne and all. I am currently downloading Mac OSX 10.7 Lion as I write this message! I can't wait to use it. However, how does one make a DVD of the files so that one can install it straight from the DVD if let's say the hard drive fails? Also, is there a BootCamp Utility like in Snow Leopard? Many thanks. Lewis Crack. :) On 20 Jul 2011, at 18:35, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Sarah, > > You're right, there is Drag&Drop, and it works, mostly. > > To mark an item for Drag&Drop, press VO-Comma. To drop the item on a folder, for instance, navigate to the folder using the VO keys, then press VO-Period. > To drop the item before another item, press VO-Less than, and to drop it after another item, press VO-Greater than. > > The place where you pick up the item and the place where you drop it must both be visible on the screen. > > Cheers, > > anne > > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 19:08, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I hear that there is a drag and drop thing. How hard is it to use and is it possible to even use? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 18:52:31 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:52:31 -0700 Subject: how can a user connect to a mac via afp if they don't run osx? Message-ID: Hello to all. I've got someone who might need to connect to me after I run lion. Now I hear they got rid of ftp and there's now only afp. How can this windows user connect to me via afp? sorry if this is the wrong list but I'm asking on his behalf as he is not subscribed to any lists lol! Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 18:58:05 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:58:05 +0100 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <12EC67D6A2B64CBFA15D6BCE62BF46A0@CNIBnotebook> References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> <12EC67D6A2B64CBFA15D6BCE62BF46A0@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: <50A5C991-9D21-48E5-8640-8C7FC91E6841@gmail.com> when I tried the gold master the resonsivness was lagging so bad i staying with sl for a few months On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Thanks Lynne. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:14 PM > Subject: Re: Lion is now available > > >> Hello Jim & all >> >> I hope you enjoy the new features of VoiceOver. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> On 20 Jul 2011, at 14:56, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >> Yep: >> >> It's happening as we speak. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM >> Subject: Lion is now available >> >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 18:59:29 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:59:29 +0100 Subject: Lion; be aware! Message-ID: Hello all I think it's worth pointing out that to run Lion, you must have a minimum of 2GB RAM in your machine. If you don't, it will fail. So please be careful. Lynne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jul 20 18:59:21 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:59:21 +0100 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2EE8684B-3171-4BBC-BA77-72A3F0CA6BB5@computing.dcu.ie> it's more like "copy and drop" (sorry Lynne I'm plagiarising from an off-list conversation, but the description is too good to waste)? *smile* On 20 Jul 2011, at 18:08, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I hear that there is a drag and drop thing. How hard is it to use and is it possible to even use? > > Take care. > On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Jim & all >> >> I hope you enjoy the new features of VoiceOver. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> On 20 Jul 2011, at 14:56, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >> Yep: >> >> It's happening as we speak. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM >> Subject: Lion is now available >> >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 19:00:37 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:00:37 +0100 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> Message-ID: Drag & drop has been enhanced, but we are still disappointed. Lynne On 20 Jul 2011, at 18:08, Sarah Alawami wrote: I hear that there is a drag and drop thing. How hard is it to use and is it possible to even use? Take care. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Jim & all > > I hope you enjoy the new features of VoiceOver. > > Lynne > > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 14:56, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > > Yep: > > It's happening as we speak. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM > Subject: Lion is now available > > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Jul 20 19:05:12 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 04:05:12 +1000 Subject: Lion; be aware! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've installed it here, obviously I've not had much time to play with it and I won't for a few hours yet, got to sleep some time you know . The install went flawlessly though it took a little while and I expected that. On 21/07/2011, at 3:59 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello all > > I think it's worth pointing out that to run Lion, you must have a minimum of 2GB RAM in your machine. If you don't, it will fail. So please be careful. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 19:06:58 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:06:58 +0200 Subject: Lion; be aware! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dane, I'm a little confused by your subject line, then, since being aware would imply we have to worry about something. I will say that there are some bugs that should have been fixed before the released, but hopefully, we'll be able to deal with workarounds until they finally fix it. Regards, Nic On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > I've installed it here, obviously I've not had much time to play with it and I won't for a few hours yet, got to sleep some time you know . > > The install went flawlessly though it took a little while and I expected that. > > > On 21/07/2011, at 3:59 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello all >> >> I think it's worth pointing out that to run Lion, you must have a minimum of 2GB RAM in your machine. If you don't, it will fail. So please be careful. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Wed Jul 20 19:06:46 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 04:06:46 +1000 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> <7B8B9BC7-E710-47FE-9BA6-924A1F9E2A7F@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: i am downloading lion now as i write this message i do hope it works well On 21/07/2011, at 3:46 AM, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Anne and all. > > I am currently downloading Mac OSX 10.7 Lion as I write this message! I can't wait to use it. However, how does one make a DVD of the files so that one can install it straight from the DVD if let's say the hard drive fails? Also, is there a BootCamp Utility like in Snow Leopard? > Many thanks. > Lewis Crack. :) > On 20 Jul 2011, at 18:35, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Sarah, >> >> You're right, there is Drag&Drop, and it works, mostly. >> >> To mark an item for Drag&Drop, press VO-Comma. To drop the item on a folder, for instance, navigate to the folder using the VO keys, then press VO-Period. >> To drop the item before another item, press VO-Less than, and to drop it after another item, press VO-Greater than. >> >> The place where you pick up the item and the place where you drop it must both be visible on the screen. >> >> Cheers, >> >> anne >> >> >> On 20 Jul 2011, at 19:08, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I hear that there is a drag and drop thing. How hard is it to use and is it possible to even use? >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Wed Jul 20 19:12:22 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (gunn at tznet.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:12:22 -0400 Subject: Thoughts before installing Lion Message-ID: <380-220117320181222948@M2W140.mail2web.com> Hello All: For those who have an external HD, you can install Lion choosing the external HD, and if you want, migrate from SL and this way you can give it a test spin before you affect your current data. Have fun, John -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Wed Jul 20 19:11:59 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:11:59 -0400 Subject: Where is the VO Import/Export preferences located? Message-ID: Hi list, I exported my VO preferences some time ago so that if VO crashed I could import them back. I did this so long ago I can't remember where to import the preferences now that I need them. Can someone point me in the right direction? I'm not talking about portable preferences but rather the VO archive of my settings that I exported. I looked in the VO Utility and system preferences but could not locate the area. Help is appreciated. Eric caron From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 19:22:00 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:22:00 +0100 Subject: Drag & Drop in Lion In-Reply-To: <7B8B9BC7-E710-47FE-9BA6-924A1F9E2A7F@anarchie.org.uk> References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> <7B8B9BC7-E710-47FE-9BA6-924A1F9E2A7F@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Anne May I add to your post; by saying make sure you keep both the source and target windows open. Otherwise it won't work. I believe that to be the case. Lynne On 20 Jul 2011, at 18:35, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Sarah, You're right, there is Drag&Drop, and it works, mostly. To mark an item for Drag&Drop, press VO-Comma. To drop the item on a folder, for instance, navigate to the folder using the VO keys, then press VO-Period. To drop the item before another item, press VO-Less than, and to drop it after another item, press VO-Greater than. The place where you pick up the item and the place where you drop it must both be visible on the screen. Cheers, anne On 20 Jul 2011, at 19:08, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I hear that there is a drag and drop thing. How hard is it to use and is it possible to even use? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 19:28:13 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:28:13 +0100 Subject: Lazy Ways In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Nic This is yet another example of people being too lazy to change the subject lines. And this is yet another example of why it's confusing when propel are lazy. Lynne On 20 Jul 2011, at 19:06, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Dane, I'm a little confused by your subject line, then, since being aware would imply we have to worry about something. From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 19:33:26 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:33:26 -0700 Subject: Lion is now available In-Reply-To: References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> Message-ID: <66207653-7622-4BE1-9D51-25559B4CA9F2@gmail.com> Ah I know of someone who arranged there trillion lists ova drag and drop but they never said how to do it. Ah well, it's a start at least. On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Drag & drop has been enhanced, but we are still disappointed. > > Lynne > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 18:08, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > I hear that there is a drag and drop thing. How hard is it to use and is it possible to even use? > > Take care. > On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Jim & all >> >> I hope you enjoy the new features of VoiceOver. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> On 20 Jul 2011, at 14:56, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >> Yep: >> >> It's happening as we speak. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM >> Subject: Lion is now available >> >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> Lion can now be downloaded from the Mac Appstore. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 19:34:07 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:34:07 -0700 Subject: Where is the VO Import/Export preferences located? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello. just open your exported prefs and the vo utility will open up and you just follow the prompts. take care. On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi list, > > I exported my VO preferences some time ago so that if VO crashed I could import them back. I did this so long ago I can't remember where to import the preferences now that I need them. Can someone point me in the right direction? I'm not talking about portable preferences but rather the VO archive of my settings that I exported. > > I looked in the VO > > Utility and system preferences but could not locate the area. > > Help is appreciated. > > Eric caron > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 19:34:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:34:47 -0700 Subject: Thoughts before installing Lion In-Reply-To: <380-220117320181222948@M2W140.mail2web.com> References: <380-220117320181222948@M2W140.mail2web.com> Message-ID: lol. my hd is so slow I can't do that. and all of my hard drives are being used right now for other things but thanks for the tip. On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:12 AM, gunn at tznet.com wrote: > Hello All: > > For those who have an external HD, you can install Lion choosing the > external HD, and if you want, migrate from SL and this way you can give it > a test spin before you affect your current data. > > Have fun, > > John > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 19:41:21 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:41:21 +0100 Subject: Blue Tooth Keyboards Message-ID: <8E819E53-8207-4140-B18E-6C656860F737@mac-access.net> Hello everybody OK; we just bought another 2 Blue Toot keyboards for our devices from Apple. I have a question. One of our keyboards is named "Gordon & Lynne's Keyboard". Gordon can't remember how on earth he did that; does anybody know? Also, is it going to create a problem running multiple keyboards connected to different devices in close proximity?? Gordon says not, because the Mac addresses are going to be different. Does anybody else have any thoughts on that? I just what Gordon says; I jut want to be sure I'm not missing anything. Lynne From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 19:43:27 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:43:27 +0200 Subject: Lazy Ways In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FF7857C-730D-41D8-8BE6-8F61A33875DE@gmail.com> Hi Lynne, Well, I didn't even finish my email. I accidentally hit Command-Shift-D, but yes, it would be nice if the subject line was relevant to actually having to beware of a problem. I'm hoping it was just a slip-up, since I don't really want to start grilling people on the list. I do think that some bugs could have, and should have been squashed before the initial release, but I'm sure that is due to those bugs in question still being investigated. Regards, Nic On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > This is yet another example of people being too lazy to change the subject lines. And this is yet another example of why it's confusing when propel are lazy. > > Lynne > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 19:06, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi Dane, > > I'm a little confused by your subject line, then, since being aware would imply we have to worry about something. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Jul 20 19:56:45 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:56:45 +0200 Subject: Blue Tooth Keyboards In-Reply-To: <8E819E53-8207-4140-B18E-6C656860F737@mac-access.net> References: <8E819E53-8207-4140-B18E-6C656860F737@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Lynne, Each BlueTooth device has its own identity, so if each BlueTooth keyboard is paired with a different device, you'll have no trouble. Problems only arise when the same device is paired with two or more devices. Cheers, Anne On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:41, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > OK; we just bought another 2 Blue Toot keyboards for our devices from Apple. I have a question. One of our keyboards is named "Gordon & Lynne's Keyboard". Gordon can't remember how on earth he did that; does anybody know? Also, is it going to create a problem running multiple keyboards connected to different devices in close proximity?? Gordon says not, because the Mac addresses are going to be different. Does anybody else have any thoughts on that? I just what Gordon says; I jut want to be sure I'm not missing anything. > > Lynne From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Wed Jul 20 19:56:51 2011 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 13:56:51 -0500 Subject: Cleaning up a Mess Message-ID: <201107201856.p6KIupHK038836@x.it.okstate.edu> My nephew downloaded a video game to my father's Mac and traces of the game won't quite go away. The Mac is an older system running Tiger but voiceover does work so I thought I might have a go at ridding the system of the game. My father recently took the system to a local shop and they removed the game but video from it still shows up at odd times which makes me think that the download probably dropped in a cooky or a flash plugin so it may still be reconstructing itself or re-installing itself based on some application that still knows about the game. While looking at an article about safari with Lion, I wondered if Tiger's version of safari can let you also look at what has recently been installed on the system. Somewhere there is enough of that game to at least fill a screen full of its video. I am not exactly sure what computer shop my father took the Mac to, and I am sure they made a reasonable effort to fix the problem, but they obviously didn't remove all traces of it. I will also see if he has cleared his web cache. It could be that simple. Any other ideas as to what to look for? I just heard about all this last night when my father ate dinner with us so I haven't had any chance to dig in to it yet. We know when the game got downloaded so any related files whose time stamp is close to that time probably need a good look. Thanks for any good suggestions. Martin McCormick From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 19:59:19 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:59:19 +0100 Subject: Lazy Ways In-Reply-To: <2FF7857C-730D-41D8-8BE6-8F61A33875DE@gmail.com> References: <2FF7857C-730D-41D8-8BE6-8F61A33875DE@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Nic I hope that people will consider this a gentle reminder, nothing more. I'll reply later to your other points. Lynne From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Jul 20 19:59:22 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:59:22 +0200 Subject: Drag & Drop in Lion In-Reply-To: References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> <7B8B9BC7-E710-47FE-9BA6-924A1F9E2A7F@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Lynne, On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:22, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > > May I add to your post; by saying make sure you keep both the source and target windows open. Otherwise it won't work. I believe that to be the case. > That's what I meant by both positions being visible for it to work. As for it being Drag&Copy, that doesn't seem to be the case for me. Perhaps it all depends on what you're trying to do. I'm usually moving files into folders and I use List view. Cheers, Anne From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Jul 20 20:00:41 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:00:41 +0200 Subject: Where is the VO Import/Export preferences located? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Eric, The Import and Export VO Preferences commands are in the VO Utility menus. Cheers, Anne From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 20:01:05 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:01:05 +0100 Subject: Blue Tooth Keyboards In-Reply-To: References: <8E819E53-8207-4140-B18E-6C656860F737@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <789E42FB-D6F9-4106-B632-276CE5A8F076@mac-access.net> Hello Anne Yes; that's what Gordon said. Thank you for the confirmation. Lynne On 20 Jul 2011, at 19:56, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Lynne, Each BlueTooth device has its own identity, so if each BlueTooth keyboard is paired with a different device, you'll have no trouble. Problems only arise when the same device is paired with two or more devices. Cheers, Anne On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:41, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > OK; we just bought another 2 Blue Toot keyboards for our devices from Apple. I have a question. One of our keyboards is named "Gordon & Lynne's Keyboard". Gordon can't remember how on earth he did that; does anybody know? Also, is it going to create a problem running multiple keyboards connected to different devices in close proximity?? Gordon says not, because the Mac addresses are going to be different. Does anybody else have any thoughts on that? I just what Gordon says; I jut want to be sure I'm not missing anything. > > Lynne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Jul 20 20:02:18 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:02:18 +0100 Subject: Lion; be aware! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15210471-7826-4C1C-B02B-32A42E2A89FF@blueyonder.co.uk> Any bugs that spring to mind I installed it earlier, very smooth. Is it me, but does Alex sound a bit beefier? and does he seem a little more responsive? Chris On 20 Jul 2011, at 19:06, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Dane, > > I'm a little confused by your subject line, then, since being aware would imply we have to worry about something. > > I will say that there are some bugs that should have been fixed before the released, but hopefully, we'll be able to deal with workarounds until they finally fix it. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> I've installed it here, obviously I've not had much time to play with it and I won't for a few hours yet, got to sleep some time you know . >> >> The install went flawlessly though it took a little while and I expected that. >> >> >> On 21/07/2011, at 3:59 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello all >>> >>> I think it's worth pointing out that to run Lion, you must have a minimum of 2GB RAM in your machine. If you don't, it will fail. So please be careful. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 20:03:17 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:03:17 +0100 Subject: Drag & Drop in Lion In-Reply-To: References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> <7B8B9BC7-E710-47FE-9BA6-924A1F9E2A7F@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <0D3D3E24-3D8A-4D11-AAA8-C8DEC1E00C05@mac-access.net> Hello Anne That's very interesting because I've tried moving a few files from A to B using this method and they just get copied, not moved. Lynne On 20 Jul 2011, at 19:59, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Lynne, On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:22, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > > May I add to your post; by saying make sure you keep both the source and target windows open. Otherwise it won't work. I believe that to be the case. > That's what I meant by both positions being visible for it to work. As for it being Drag&Copy, that doesn't seem to be the case for me. Perhaps it all depends on what you're trying to do. I'm usually moving files into folders and I use List view. Cheers, Anne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jul 20 20:03:50 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:03:50 -0400 Subject: how can a user connect to a mac via afp if they don't run osx? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3132BC97-1243-4A05-9312-2590BA05E931@softcon.com> How they connect has a lot to do with what you want this person to be able to do. Just to download files, ftp or web is fine. Accessing your actual drive content, then you'll need smb shares. And, don't forget, lion is just unix with a nice gui on it. If you want ftp, then there's plenty of ftp solutions out there, ncftpd.com has a very nice one that works a treat, and which I registered more than 10 years ago, and it's still being updated. For complete and full access, ssh does the job nicely. As I said, it all depends on what kind of access to your system you want this person to have. From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 20:05:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:05:40 +0100 Subject: Lion; be aware! In-Reply-To: <15210471-7826-4C1C-B02B-32A42E2A89FF@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <15210471-7826-4C1C-B02B-32A42E2A89FF@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <0B04C2B9-CC09-4649-8BCC-3420AFD26942@mac-access.net> Hello Chris I agree about the responsiveness. It's better than in SL. Don't get me wrong; vast majority of things that have changed in Lion are excellent. But there are a few niggles. Lynne On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:02, Chris Moore wrote: Any bugs that spring to mind I installed it earlier, very smooth. Is it me, but does Alex sound a bit beefier? and does he seem a little more responsive? From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 20:07:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:07:15 -0700 Subject: how can a user connect to a mac via afp if they don't run osx? In-Reply-To: <3132BC97-1243-4A05-9312-2590BA05E931@softcon.com> References: <3132BC97-1243-4A05-9312-2590BA05E931@softcon.com> Message-ID: <35AE29DE-F7EF-444B-B122-0E574811540B@gmail.com> Just to grab a file, or files that they need. Will the web thing be possible and if so how? I'm not very bright whenit omes to this. i only did this for the first time on sunday. created there account coppied the files in to there public folder, they grabbed it and I distorted there account and there files. lol! but if they were to have a web like interface like you see on some places where you see parent dir and such how would I go about doing this? Take care. On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > How they connect has a lot to do with what you want this person to be able to do. > Just to download files, ftp or web is fine. Accessing your actual drive content, then you'll need smb shares. > And, don't forget, lion is just unix with a nice gui on it. If you want ftp, then there's plenty of ftp solutions out there, ncftpd.com has a very nice one that works a treat, and which I registered more than 10 years ago, and it's still being updated. For complete and full access, ssh does the job nicely. As I said, it all depends on what kind of access to your system you want this person to have. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Wed Jul 20 20:08:29 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:08:29 +0100 Subject: Blue Tooth Keyboards In-Reply-To: <789E42FB-D6F9-4106-B632-276CE5A8F076@mac-access.net> References: <8E819E53-8207-4140-B18E-6C656860F737@mac-access.net> <789E42FB-D6F9-4106-B632-276CE5A8F076@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <05F9214D-4456-4E3B-8DF2-218C8661AF51@virginmedia.com> Hi Lynne! As far as naming the keyboard goes could it of happened when you first paired it! I'm only guessing because when I paired my new trackpad it named it from my account and not the other one! Colin On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:01, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Anne > > Yes; that's what Gordon said. Thank you for the confirmation. > > Lynne > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 19:56, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Lynne, > > Each BlueTooth device has its own identity, so if each BlueTooth keyboard is paired with a different device, you'll have no trouble. Problems only arise when the same device is paired with two or more devices. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:41, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> OK; we just bought another 2 Blue Toot keyboards for our devices from Apple. I have a question. One of our keyboards is named "Gordon & Lynne's Keyboard". Gordon can't remember how on earth he did that; does anybody know? Also, is it going to create a problem running multiple keyboards connected to different devices in close proximity?? Gordon says not, because the Mac addresses are going to be different. Does anybody else have any thoughts on that? I just what Gordon says; I jut want to be sure I'm not missing anything. >> >> Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Jul 20 20:11:17 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:11:17 +0200 Subject: Drag & Drop in Lion In-Reply-To: <0D3D3E24-3D8A-4D11-AAA8-C8DEC1E00C05@mac-access.net> References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> <7B8B9BC7-E710-47FE-9BA6-924A1F9E2A7F@anarchie.org.uk> <0D3D3E24-3D8A-4D11-AAA8-C8DEC1E00C05@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <853C0426-8D32-4882-88A3-6452DDE65F23@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Lynne, I wonder if this Drag&Copy problem has to do with the Finder view. As I said, I always use list view so if you're in Column view, you might like to try List view and see if it works better. Cheers, Anne On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:03, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Anne > > That's very interesting because I've tried moving a few files from A to B using this method and they just get copied, not moved. > > Lynne From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 20:14:40 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:14:40 +0200 Subject: Lion; be aware! In-Reply-To: <0B04C2B9-CC09-4649-8BCC-3420AFD26942@mac-access.net> References: <15210471-7826-4C1C-B02B-32A42E2A89FF@blueyonder.co.uk> <0B04C2B9-CC09-4649-8BCC-3420AFD26942@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <77387308-7A50-4A17-9F09-BC063707D14C@gmail.com> Hi Chris, One bug that comes to mind right now is that on occasion, VoiceOver fails to detect web elements even when using either Web commands or the rotor, however still detects them when navigating the page. A workaround is to either click a link, or toggle VoiceOver. A second bug is similar to the Quick nav bug that still exists, but it is slightly different. Sometimes when editing any text field and moving left or right with the arrow keys, VoiceOver sometimes thinks that you are wanting to move between characters. Some of you may confuse that bug with the Quick nav problem, but do note that the initial Quick nav issues still persist and it is not the same bug. Third, Safari dialogs are not readable, such as those on webpages that tell you if you have not entered the necessary information or that you are not allowed to paste information. This bug is still under investigation. Fourth, on very rare occasions the keyboard will lock up completely. This means that you can use VoiceOver commands, but you cannot type or do anything else. Regards, Nic On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Chris > > I agree about the responsiveness. It's better than in SL. Don't get me wrong; vast majority of things that have changed in Lion are excellent. But there are a few niggles. > > Lynne > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:02, Chris Moore wrote: > > Any bugs that spring to mind > > I installed it earlier, very smooth. Is it me, but does Alex sound a bit beefier? and does he seem a little more responsive? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jul 20 20:14:13 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:14:13 -0400 Subject: how can a user connect to a mac via afp if they don't run osx? In-Reply-To: <35AE29DE-F7EF-444B-B122-0E574811540B@gmail.com> References: <3132BC97-1243-4A05-9312-2590BA05E931@softcon.com> <35AE29DE-F7EF-444B-B122-0E574811540B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6B96B903-E442-4337-B01F-B9BE18A5BD2B@softcon.com> Just create a folder in your sites folder which is located in your home folder. Drop all files you want them to be able to download into that folder, then give them the url of something like: http://192.168.2.100/~username/files/ and the web server will show them a list of all the files in the folder, and they can download whichever files they want. Of course, this assumes your home folder is named username, and your computer's ip address is publically routable (which 192.168.2.100 is not) You'll also need to make sure you've turned on the web server in the preferences under services, just check the box for websharing, and you're all set. If you want to limit the files they get, then you can create an index.html file that only links to the files you want them to see, that way no matter how many files are in the folder, they won't see them w/o a direct url, because the index.html file will come up every time instead of the file listing. Leave out the index.html file, and they can see everything in the folder. That's all there is to it. hth. From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 20:16:03 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:16:03 -0400 Subject: MOving files in lion... Message-ID: According to Tidbits you can now use command-option-V to move instead of copy a file. Also for those experimenting with drag and drop in all versions of Mac OS since at least version 7 when draging to a folder on the same physical device the Operating System would move the file, but when dragging to a different device it would perform a copy. I will not be attempting to use Lion for a couple of weeks. I plan on reading a few transition articles, and repartition my wife's machine so she can run Snow Leopard for Quicken and Lion for the rest of her applications. After I have learned from that experience, I will migrate my personal machine. Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn joncohn at cox.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 20:16:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:16:56 -0700 Subject: how can a user connect to a mac via afp if they don't run osx? In-Reply-To: <6B96B903-E442-4337-B01F-B9BE18A5BD2B@softcon.com> References: <3132BC97-1243-4A05-9312-2590BA05E931@softcon.com> <35AE29DE-F7EF-444B-B122-0E574811540B@gmail.com> <6B96B903-E442-4337-B01F-B9BE18A5BD2B@softcon.com> Message-ID: and will I still be able to do this in lion if they cant reach me in time and of corse there account is password protected. Sorry about all of this. I feel quite dumb. lol! I'll take a look at that again and play with it. On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Just create a folder in your sites folder which is located in your home folder. > Drop all files you want them to be able to download into that folder, then give them the url of something like: > http://192.168.2.100/~username/files/ > > and the web server will show them a list of all the files in the folder, and they can download whichever files they want. > Of course, this assumes your home folder is named username, and your computer's ip address is publically routable (which 192.168.2.100 is not) > You'll also need to make sure you've turned on the web server in the preferences under services, just check the box for websharing, and you're all set. > If you want to limit the files they get, then you can create an index.html file that only links to the files you want them to see, that way no matter how many files are in the folder, they won't see them w/o a direct url, because the index.html file will come up every time instead of the file listing. > Leave out the index.html file, and they can see everything in the folder. > That's all there is to it. > hth. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 20:25:24 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:25:24 +0200 Subject: MOving files in lion... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9BA091E3-D896-4FC2-B2D4-020D38FE1454@gmail.com> Hi, Moving files with Command-Option-V is correct. First, you have to copy it with Command-C so that VoiceOver announces it has copied, move to the directory where you wish to place the file then hit command-Option-V to move it. I discovered this also, but found it odd that I had not seen any references to this within the help or in the appropriate menus. Regards, Nic On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > According to Tidbits you can now use command-option-V to move instead of copy a file. > > Also for those experimenting with drag and drop in all versions of Mac OS since at least version 7 when draging to a folder on the same physical device the Operating System would move the file, but when dragging to a different device it would perform a copy. > > I will not be attempting to use Lion for a couple of weeks. I plan on reading a few transition articles, and repartition my wife's machine so she can run Snow Leopard for Quicken and Lion for the rest of her applications. After I have learned from that experience, I will migrate my personal machine. > > > Jonathan > > Jonathan C. Cohn > joncohn at cox.net > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jul 20 20:25:10 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:25:10 -0400 Subject: MOving files in lion... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would be extremely careful when moving files around via osx. I've encountered a bug where my files appear to show up in the proper place, but after I reboot, all trace of the files are gone. This isn't on lion, but on leopard and snowleopard. It happens most often when moving files between devices, but it has happened when just moving things around on the same disk too. Just saying, be careful with the move command. It's nice to finally have the ability to do this from finder, but just be careful using it until it's been thoroughly tested. From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jul 20 20:28:02 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:28:02 -0400 Subject: how can a user connect to a mac via afp if they don't run osx? In-Reply-To: References: <3132BC97-1243-4A05-9312-2590BA05E931@softcon.com> <35AE29DE-F7EF-444B-B122-0E574811540B@gmail.com> <6B96B903-E442-4337-B01F-B9BE18A5BD2B@softcon.com> Message-ID: <8C4C86D9-14A0-4A02-8D12-A76A3A06F042@softcon.com> On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > and will I still be able to do this in lion if they cant reach me > in time and of corse there account is password protected. If you're using the web option, by dropping files in a folder under your sites folder, no additional accounts are necessary, just the url to the folder on your home folder. that's all. Saves you from needing to create any user accounts, all you need is the url to the folder where you dropped the files. From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 20:33:11 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:33:11 +0100 Subject: Blue Tooth Keyboards In-Reply-To: <05F9214D-4456-4E3B-8DF2-218C8661AF51@virginmedia.com> References: <8E819E53-8207-4140-B18E-6C656860F737@mac-access.net> <789E42FB-D6F9-4106-B632-276CE5A8F076@mac-access.net> <05F9214D-4456-4E3B-8DF2-218C8661AF51@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <0F5B0B48-E524-44F1-A1D7-951B27A9C0B4@mac-access.net> Hello Colin Yes; it could indeed. We just aren't sure and Gordon doesn't remember how, or even if, he did it. Lynne On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:08, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Lynne! As far as naming the keyboard goes could it of happened when you first paired it! I'm only guessing because when I paired my new trackpad it named it from my account and not the other one! Colin On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:01, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Anne > > Yes; that's what Gordon said. Thank you for the confirmation. > > Lynne > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 19:56, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Lynne, > > Each BlueTooth device has its own identity, so if each BlueTooth keyboard is paired with a different device, you'll have no trouble. Problems only arise when the same device is paired with two or more devices. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:41, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> OK; we just bought another 2 Blue Toot keyboards for our devices from Apple. I have a question. One of our keyboards is named "Gordon & Lynne's Keyboard". Gordon can't remember how on earth he did that; does anybody know? Also, is it going to create a problem running multiple keyboards connected to different devices in close proximity?? Gordon says not, because the Mac addresses are going to be different. Does anybody else have any thoughts on that? I just what Gordon says; I jut want to be sure I'm not missing anything. >> >> Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 20:34:26 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:34:26 +0100 Subject: Drag & Drop in Lion In-Reply-To: <853C0426-8D32-4882-88A3-6452DDE65F23@anarchie.org.uk> References: <1F4D9E4163544BB295AB377075ECD934@CNIBnotebook> <3F31E259-7446-4610-9011-826EFC841D0A@mac-access.net> <651C28E3-DF40-4046-B68B-B96B84803A51@gmail.com> <7B8B9BC7-E710-47FE-9BA6-924A1F9E2A7F@anarchie.org.uk> <0D3D3E24-3D8A-4D11-AAA8-C8DEC1E00C05@mac-access.net> <853C0426-8D32-4882-88A3-6452DDE65F23@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Anne Routinely, Gordon and I use icon view. But yes; it's highly possible so I will try list view and let you know. Lynne On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:11, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Lynne, I wonder if this Drag&Copy problem has to do with the Finder view. As I said, I always use list view so if you're in Column view, you might like to try List view and see if it works better. Cheers, Anne On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:03, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Anne > > That's very interesting because I've tried moving a few files from A to B using this method and they just get copied, not moved. > > Lynne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 20:38:38 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:38:38 +0100 Subject: Lion; be aware! In-Reply-To: <77387308-7A50-4A17-9F09-BC063707D14C@gmail.com> References: <15210471-7826-4C1C-B02B-32A42E2A89FF@blueyonder.co.uk> <0B04C2B9-CC09-4649-8BCC-3420AFD26942@mac-access.net> <77387308-7A50-4A17-9F09-BC063707D14C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <11E1E6FD-F026-4DAB-8C36-DD83B336BCE8@mac-access.net> Hello Nic & Chris Another bug that we have noticed is that when you're on a website navigating by link by pressing VoiceOver+Command+L, VO will verbalise "Next link not found", yet there are more links there and you can see them if you navigate with the arrow keys. Lynne On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:14, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Chris, One bug that comes to mind right now is that on occasion, VoiceOver fails to detect web elements even when using either Web commands or the rotor, however still detects them when navigating the page. A workaround is to either click a link, or toggle VoiceOver. A second bug is similar to the Quick nav bug that still exists, but it is slightly different. Sometimes when editing any text field and moving left or right with the arrow keys, VoiceOver sometimes thinks that you are wanting to move between characters. Some of you may confuse that bug with the Quick nav problem, but do note that the initial Quick nav issues still persist and it is not the same bug. Third, Safari dialogs are not readable, such as those on webpages that tell you if you have not entered the necessary information or that you are not allowed to paste information. This bug is still under investigation. Fourth, on very rare occasions the keyboard will lock up completely. This means that you can use VoiceOver commands, but you cannot type or do anything else. Regards, Nic On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Chris > > I agree about the responsiveness. It's better than in SL. Don't get me wrong; vast majority of things that have changed in Lion are excellent. But there are a few niggles. > > Lynne > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:02, Chris Moore wrote: > > Any bugs that spring to mind > > I installed it earlier, very smooth. Is it me, but does Alex sound a bit beefier? and does he seem a little more responsive? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 20:40:31 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:40:31 +0200 Subject: Lion; be aware! In-Reply-To: <11E1E6FD-F026-4DAB-8C36-DD83B336BCE8@mac-access.net> References: <15210471-7826-4C1C-B02B-32A42E2A89FF@blueyonder.co.uk> <0B04C2B9-CC09-4649-8BCC-3420AFD26942@mac-access.net> <77387308-7A50-4A17-9F09-BC063707D14C@gmail.com> <11E1E6FD-F026-4DAB-8C36-DD83B336BCE8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, Yep, that adds to my bug regarding element detection. Also, you cannot click the "See More" links to view quoted messages in Mail. Regards, Nic On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic & Chris > > Another bug that we have noticed is that when you're on a website navigating by link by pressing VoiceOver+Command+L, VO will verbalise "Next link not found", yet there are more links there and you can see them if you navigate with the arrow keys. > > Lynne > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:14, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > One bug that comes to mind right now is that on occasion, VoiceOver fails to detect web elements even when using either Web commands or the rotor, however still detects them when navigating the page. A workaround is to either click a link, or toggle VoiceOver. > > A second bug is similar to the Quick nav bug that still exists, but it is slightly different. Sometimes when editing any text field and moving left or right with the arrow keys, VoiceOver sometimes thinks that you are wanting to move between characters. > > Some of you may confuse that bug with the Quick nav problem, but do note that the initial Quick nav issues still persist and it is not the same bug. > > Third, Safari dialogs are not readable, such as those on webpages that tell you if you have not entered the necessary information or that you are not allowed to paste information. This bug is still under investigation. > > Fourth, on very rare occasions the keyboard will lock up completely. This means that you can use VoiceOver commands, but you cannot type or do anything else. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Chris >> >> I agree about the responsiveness. It's better than in SL. Don't get me wrong; vast majority of things that have changed in Lion are excellent. But there are a few niggles. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:02, Chris Moore wrote: >> >> Any bugs that spring to mind >> >> I installed it earlier, very smooth. Is it me, but does Alex sound a bit beefier? and does he seem a little more responsive? >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 20:43:06 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:43:06 +0100 Subject: MOving files in lion... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63E81519-5442-4B58-9070-AF915A79D06E@mac-access.net> Hello Jonathan Now that is useful! I will experiment. Lynne On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:16, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: According to Tidbits you can now use command-option-V to move instead of copy a file. Also for those experimenting with drag and drop in all versions of Mac OS since at least version 7 when draging to a folder on the same physical device the Operating System would move the file, but when dragging to a different device it would perform a copy. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jul 20 20:49:17 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:49:17 +0100 Subject: VO not recognising website content (was) Re: Lion; be aware! In-Reply-To: <11E1E6FD-F026-4DAB-8C36-DD83B336BCE8@mac-access.net> References: <15210471-7826-4C1C-B02B-32A42E2A89FF@blueyonder.co.uk> <0B04C2B9-CC09-4649-8BCC-3420AFD26942@mac-access.net> <77387308-7A50-4A17-9F09-BC063707D14C@gmail.com> <11E1E6FD-F026-4DAB-8C36-DD83B336BCE8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8CAD570B-46C0-4980-81FD-7322E0D5D3CA@computing.dcu.ie> Hi Lynne and all, I'd extend Lynne's comments to say that I've encountered the situation where VO's web rotor contains no links, headers, tables (etc). However, navigating using vo-rightarrow gives the content perfectly. Cheers. D?nal On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:38, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic & Chris > > Another bug that we have noticed is that when you're on a website navigating by link by pressing VoiceOver+Command+L, VO will verbalise "Next link not found", yet there are more links there and you can see them if you navigate with the arrow keys. > > Lynne > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:14, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > One bug that comes to mind right now is that on occasion, VoiceOver fails to detect web elements even when using either Web commands or the rotor, however still detects them when navigating the page. A workaround is to either click a link, or toggle VoiceOver. > > A second bug is similar to the Quick nav bug that still exists, but it is slightly different. Sometimes when editing any text field and moving left or right with the arrow keys, VoiceOver sometimes thinks that you are wanting to move between characters. > > Some of you may confuse that bug with the Quick nav problem, but do note that the initial Quick nav issues still persist and it is not the same bug. > > Third, Safari dialogs are not readable, such as those on webpages that tell you if you have not entered the necessary information or that you are not allowed to paste information. This bug is still under investigation. > > Fourth, on very rare occasions the keyboard will lock up completely. This means that you can use VoiceOver commands, but you cannot type or do anything else. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Chris >> >> I agree about the responsiveness. It's better than in SL. Don't get me wrong; vast majority of things that have changed in Lion are excellent. But there are a few niggles. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:02, Chris Moore wrote: >> >> Any bugs that spring to mind >> >> I installed it earlier, very smooth. Is it me, but does Alex sound a bit beefier? and does he seem a little more responsive? >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Wed Jul 20 21:09:42 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:09:42 -0400 Subject: Where is the VO Import/Export preferences located? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FAB4584-B6C1-4178-87BC-791F99650424@Mac-Access.net> Hello Anne, Thanks to your note I knew I was in the right place but I just could not find the export or import option anywhere in the table. Finally I remembered that I had to go to the menu bar and to the file menu! Thanks for your Note and I'm off to fix this ! Eric Caron On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Eric, > > The Import and Export VO Preferences commands are in the VO Utility menus. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 21:12:33 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:12:33 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Updating to Lion; update Available Message-ID: <79F8E37D-34EB-42F1-8D6C-7EDCFEA2897D@mac-access.net> We will add this to the bookshelves of those who bought it without you needing to do anything. Now that Apple has released Lion, we are pleased to bring you the free version 1.1 update to Joe Kissell's "Take Control of Upgrading to Lion." If you've already read version 1.0, be sure to check out the new chapter near the beginning of the ebook, "Welcome Back, Version 1.0 Readers." Version 1.1 has new information throughout and a number of new chapters that describe running the installer, performing key post-installation tasks, using Recovery mode, and more. Also, one thing that has become more obvious since 1.0 was released is this: don't put off upgrading any needed Rosetta software for later, after your Lion upgrade. The software that converts your data to the newer software's format may also require Rosetta. As I said, give us just a little while and we wil add this book for you if you bought the original from us. Lynne From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Jul 20 21:23:16 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:23:16 +0100 Subject: Lion; be aware! In-Reply-To: <77387308-7A50-4A17-9F09-BC063707D14C@gmail.com> References: <15210471-7826-4C1C-B02B-32A42E2A89FF@blueyonder.co.uk> <0B04C2B9-CC09-4649-8BCC-3420AFD26942@mac-access.net> <77387308-7A50-4A17-9F09-BC063707D14C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0C7F35D9-E103-4EB2-B91E-C8EC3BBB42CF@blueyonder.co.uk> Thank you for that, I am rather disappointed about bug number 1, as I reported this on many occasions, it was even there in SL too. I had hoped it would have been resolved as I did not get a chance to play with the GM version. As always, Apple are usually pretty quick to release a update (usually 6 weeks) after the first release. Let's hope some of these bugs get addressed. I noticed with the iTunes update today that column browser is still read out as playlist browser by VO. Minor bug i know, but still annoys me. Chris On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:14, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Chris, > > One bug that comes to mind right now is that on occasion, VoiceOver fails to detect web elements even when using either Web commands or the rotor, however still detects them when navigating the page. A workaround is to either click a link, or toggle VoiceOver. > > A second bug is similar to the Quick nav bug that still exists, but it is slightly different. Sometimes when editing any text field and moving left or right with the arrow keys, VoiceOver sometimes thinks that you are wanting to move between characters. > > Some of you may confuse that bug with the Quick nav problem, but do note that the initial Quick nav issues still persist and it is not the same bug. > > Third, Safari dialogs are not readable, such as those on webpages that tell you if you have not entered the necessary information or that you are not allowed to paste information. This bug is still under investigation. > > Fourth, on very rare occasions the keyboard will lock up completely. This means that you can use VoiceOver commands, but you cannot type or do anything else. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Chris >> >> I agree about the responsiveness. It's better than in SL. Don't get me wrong; vast majority of things that have changed in Lion are excellent. But there are a few niggles. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:02, Chris Moore wrote: >> >> Any bugs that spring to mind >> >> I installed it earlier, very smooth. Is it me, but does Alex sound a bit beefier? and does he seem a little more responsive? >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Jul 20 21:23:16 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:23:16 +0200 Subject: My two favourite things about Lion Message-ID: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> Hello everyone, My two favourite things about Lion are the voices in other languages and the Quick Nav Commander that allows you to do single-key webpage navigation when using Quick Nav. Once again, you can add your own shortcuts to the Quick Nav Commander. On the subject of the voices: I changed my system voice from Alex to Fiona, then I synced my 4th Gen iPod Nano and got the warning that my new system voice speaks a different language from the previous one! I thought that Britain and America were divided by a *common* language, not by *different* languages. For D?nal, have you tried Moira? Cheers, Anne From support at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 21:24:41 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:24:41 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Upgrading to Lion Message-ID: <2216F3EB-BF85-4A0D-81A0-8D7755529851@mac-access.net> Hello again We have now completed the update for those who bought the Lion book from us. We are clarifying with the publishers regarding the pre-ordered "Using Lion" book and will make it available as soon as we are able. meanwhile feel free to download the update from us if you wish; version 1.1 should now be in your bookshelf in PDF and ePub format. If you require the Mobi format, let us know. Lynne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jul 20 21:26:42 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:26:42 +0100 Subject: My two favourite things about Lion In-Reply-To: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> Hello Anne, I've been using Lion for a while, and yes I've downloaded Moira? And rather rapidly stopped using her. The cadence (prosody) of the voice is somewhat irritating. You tried it? On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:23, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My two favourite things about Lion are the voices in other languages and the Quick Nav Commander that allows you to do single-key webpage navigation when using Quick Nav. Once again, you can add your own shortcuts to the Quick Nav Commander. > > On the subject of the voices: I changed my system voice from Alex to Fiona, then I synced my 4th Gen iPod Nano and got the warning that my new system voice speaks a different language from the previous one! I thought that Britain and America were divided by a *common* language, not by *different* languages. For D?nal, have you tried Moira? > > Cheers, > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Jul 20 21:28:27 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:28:27 +0100 Subject: MOving files in lion... In-Reply-To: <9BA091E3-D896-4FC2-B2D4-020D38FE1454@gmail.com> References: <9BA091E3-D896-4FC2-B2D4-020D38FE1454@gmail.com> Message-ID: Fantastic, I have been after that feature since Panther! Chris On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:25, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Moving files with Command-Option-V is correct. First, you have to copy it with Command-C so that VoiceOver announces it has copied, move to the directory where you wish to place the file then hit command-Option-V to move it. I discovered this also, but found it odd that I had not seen any references to this within the help or in the appropriate menus. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > >> According to Tidbits you can now use command-option-V to move instead of copy a file. >> >> Also for those experimenting with drag and drop in all versions of Mac OS since at least version 7 when draging to a folder on the same physical device the Operating System would move the file, but when dragging to a different device it would perform a copy. >> >> I will not be attempting to use Lion for a couple of weeks. I plan on reading a few transition articles, and repartition my wife's machine so she can run Snow Leopard for Quicken and Lion for the rest of her applications. After I have learned from that experience, I will migrate my personal machine. >> >> >> Jonathan >> >> Jonathan C. Cohn >> joncohn at cox.net >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jul 20 21:28:23 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:28:23 +0100 Subject: documentation. Message-ID: HI all, I just tried to go to the "getting started" guide and am receiving a 404 error. Anyone else? D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From phonerossy at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 21:28:47 2011 From: phonerossy at gmail.com (rossy) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:28:47 +0200 Subject: Take Control of Updating to Lion; update Available In-Reply-To: <79F8E37D-34EB-42F1-8D6C-7EDCFEA2897D@mac-access.net> References: <79F8E37D-34EB-42F1-8D6C-7EDCFEA2897D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1349B04A-3BFF-43E1-8918-2AAB0FAE8F94@gmail.com> great news ! can we download it ? the first book is doing great job when questions are coming up on the italian list . there were so many things that i did not know . if i may , i suggest the book as a must have . finally let me thank again lynne and gordon for this wonderful service . it works great with all my apple device , computer , ipad and iphone. great job guys! rossy Il giorno 20/lug/2011, alle ore 22.12, Gordon & Lynne Smith ha scritto: > We will add this to the bookshelves of those who bought it without you needing to do anything. > > Now that Apple has released Lion, we are pleased to bring you the free version 1.1 update to Joe Kissell's "Take Control of Upgrading to Lion." If you've already read version 1.0, be sure to check out the new chapter near the beginning of the ebook, "Welcome Back, Version 1.0 Readers." Version 1.1 has new information throughout and a number of new chapters that describe running the installer, performing key post-installation tasks, using Recovery mode, and more. > > Also, one thing that has become more obvious since 1.0 was released is this: don't put off upgrading any needed Rosetta software for later, after your Lion upgrade. The software that converts your data to the newer software's format may also require Rosetta. > > As I said, give us just a little while and we wil add this book for you if you bought the original from us. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 21:29:50 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:29:50 +0100 Subject: Adding the non-compacted languages Message-ID: Hello everyone, Well, I like Anne and very impressed with the pre-installed foreign languages. However, I am curious to know if the non-comapcted languages are part of Lion that come as an extra install, or whether they are paid upgrades? Thanks TC: ) James From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 21:34:36 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:34:36 +0200 Subject: Adding the non-compacted languages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57ABFA3B-5742-4E57-AEB9-4C476B684238@gmail.com> Hello James, These are not paid upgrades, and are downloadable. Apple refers to these as "premium" voices. Simply go to the VoiceOver Utility with VO-F8, select the Speech category, then tab to the Default voice pop up button. Select "Customize?" and you will be able to select any of the available voices to show in the Default voice pop up by checking and unchecking boxes. It is also worth noting that you do not need to go into the VoiceOver Utility to download them. As these are compatible with any application using speech, you can also get them by going into System Preferences, clicking Speech then selecting the Text To Speech Tab and clicking "Customize?" Regards, Nic On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Well, I like Anne and very impressed with the pre-installed foreign languages. However, I am curious to know if the non-comapcted languages are part of Lion that come as an extra install, or whether they are paid upgrades? > > Thanks > TC: ) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 21:36:51 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:36:51 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Updating to Lion; update Available In-Reply-To: <1349B04A-3BFF-43E1-8918-2AAB0FAE8F94@gmail.com> References: <79F8E37D-34EB-42F1-8D6C-7EDCFEA2897D@mac-access.net> <1349B04A-3BFF-43E1-8918-2AAB0FAE8F94@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Rossy On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:28, rossy wrote: ? great news ! can we download it ? Yes; it is now up on your bookshelf. ? the first book is doing great job when questions are coming up on the italian list . there were so many things that i did not know . if i may , i suggest the book as a must have . yes, I agree with you. It's a very big bonus. ? finally let me thank again lynne and gordon for this wonderful service . it works great with all my apple device , computer , ipad and iPhone. Our secure sever auto-detects whether you're using n iPhone and, if you are, it switches to the iPhone interface so that it fits the mobile Safari browser. We are gratified by the fact that so many people seem to find this service useful. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 21:37:53 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:37:53 +0100 Subject: Adding the non-compacted languages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <553C5D74-F90F-496F-8770-7D4C28ADBBE7@mac-access.net> James \ Go to VO utility and under the speech tab click on Customise. Lynne On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:29, James AUSTIN wrote: Hello everyone, Well, I like Anne and very impressed with the pre-installed foreign languages. However, I am curious to know if the non-comapcted languages are part of Lion that come as an extra install, or whether they are paid upgrades? Thanks TC: ) James <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 21:38:26 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:38:26 +0100 Subject: Adding the non-compacted languages In-Reply-To: <57ABFA3B-5742-4E57-AEB9-4C476B684238@gmail.com> References: <57ABFA3B-5742-4E57-AEB9-4C476B684238@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Nic, Thank you, but just to confirm, these are not going to cost anything extra? Also, I assume that they can be easily uninstalled if you no longer wish to use them? Thanks TC :) James On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:34, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello James, > > These are not paid upgrades, and are downloadable. Apple refers to these as "premium" voices. Simply go to the VoiceOver Utility with VO-F8, select the Speech category, then tab to the Default voice pop up button. Select "Customize?" and you will be able to select any of the available voices to show in the Default voice pop up by checking and unchecking boxes. > > It is also worth noting that you do not need to go into the VoiceOver Utility to download them. As these are compatible with any application using speech, you can also get them by going into System Preferences, clicking Speech then selecting the Text To Speech Tab and clicking "Customize?" > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Well, I like Anne and very impressed with the pre-installed foreign languages. However, I am curious to know if the non-comapcted languages are part of Lion that come as an extra install, or whether they are paid upgrades? >> >> Thanks >> TC: ) >> James >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 21:40:44 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 13:40:44 -0700 Subject: documentation. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31A87FAD-0A89-4B0D-ACEB-758ACA732EAD@gmail.com> Yep. someone else on twitter is receiving this as well. I hope they fix this soon. On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:28 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > HI all, > > I just tried to go to the "getting started" guide and am receiving a 404 error. Anyone else? > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 21:45:00 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:45:00 +0200 Subject: Adding the non-compacted languages In-Reply-To: References: <57ABFA3B-5742-4E57-AEB9-4C476B684238@gmail.com> Message-ID: <65C1E038-C900-4E45-85CB-018EF7CD45F2@gmail.com> Hello James, yes, these are free. All I know is that I have not had to pay. :) I would assume that you simpley remove their speech files if you no longer wish to use them from /System/Library/Speech/Voices. Regards, Nic On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:38 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello Nic, > Thank you, but just to confirm, these are not going to cost anything extra? Also, I assume that they can be easily uninstalled if you no longer wish to use them? > Thanks > TC :) > James > On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:34, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hello James, >> >> These are not paid upgrades, and are downloadable. Apple refers to these as "premium" voices. Simply go to the VoiceOver Utility with VO-F8, select the Speech category, then tab to the Default voice pop up button. Select "Customize?" and you will be able to select any of the available voices to show in the Default voice pop up by checking and unchecking boxes. >> >> It is also worth noting that you do not need to go into the VoiceOver Utility to download them. As these are compatible with any application using speech, you can also get them by going into System Preferences, clicking Speech then selecting the Text To Speech Tab and clicking "Customize?" >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> Well, I like Anne and very impressed with the pre-installed foreign languages. However, I am curious to know if the non-comapcted languages are part of Lion that come as an extra install, or whether they are paid upgrades? >>> >>> Thanks >>> TC: ) >>> James >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jul 20 21:45:15 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:45:15 +0100 Subject: quitting apps. Message-ID: <312992B7-BA91-41E8-BF75-C8D5248BD56C@computing.dcu.ie> Hi all, One feature of Lion that some of you may not be aware of is the fact that the state of your applications is maintained when you exit. So, for example, if you go to: www.mac-access.net and exit safari with cmd-q, the next time you launch Safari you'll be taken back there. This is similar to the behaviour of Safari on IOS devices. Now to prevent this, you have two choices. You can disable this behaviour globally in system preferences|General. Alternatively, you can exit the app using CMD-Option-q. cheers, D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Jul 20 21:47:39 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:47:39 +0100 Subject: Adding the non-compacted languages In-Reply-To: <65C1E038-C900-4E45-85CB-018EF7CD45F2@gmail.com> References: <57ABFA3B-5742-4E57-AEB9-4C476B684238@gmail.com> <65C1E038-C900-4E45-85CB-018EF7CD45F2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <79C76439-77CF-45C0-869C-C051444B1309@mac-access.net> Fabulous thanks Nic On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:45, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello James, > > yes, these are free. All I know is that I have not had to pay. :) I would assume that you simpley remove their speech files if you no longer wish to use them from /System/Library/Speech/Voices. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:38 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hello Nic, >> Thank you, but just to confirm, these are not going to cost anything extra? Also, I assume that they can be easily uninstalled if you no longer wish to use them? >> Thanks >> TC :) >> James >> On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:34, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hello James, >>> >>> These are not paid upgrades, and are downloadable. Apple refers to these as "premium" voices. Simply go to the VoiceOver Utility with VO-F8, select the Speech category, then tab to the Default voice pop up button. Select "Customize?" and you will be able to select any of the available voices to show in the Default voice pop up by checking and unchecking boxes. >>> >>> It is also worth noting that you do not need to go into the VoiceOver Utility to download them. As these are compatible with any application using speech, you can also get them by going into System Preferences, clicking Speech then selecting the Text To Speech Tab and clicking "Customize?" >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> Well, I like Anne and very impressed with the pre-installed foreign languages. However, I am curious to know if the non-comapcted languages are part of Lion that come as an extra install, or whether they are paid upgrades? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> TC: ) >>>> James >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Jul 20 21:56:05 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:56:05 +0100 Subject: quitting apps. In-Reply-To: <312992B7-BA91-41E8-BF75-C8D5248BD56C@computing.dcu.ie> References: <312992B7-BA91-41E8-BF75-C8D5248BD56C@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: So bare that in mind when you are looking at something you should not (and I mean a surprise Christmas gift for your loved one if you filthy minded people were thinking otherwise), they could easily open Safari back up to be presented with the last web page you were on! On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:45, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi all, > > One feature of Lion that some of you may not be aware of is the fact that the state of your applications is maintained when you exit. So, for example, if you go to: > > www.mac-access.net > > and exit safari with cmd-q, the next time you launch Safari you'll be taken back there. This is similar to the behaviour of Safari on IOS devices. > > Now to prevent this, you have two choices. You can disable this behaviour globally in system preferences|General. Alternatively, you can exit the app using CMD-Option-q. > > cheers, > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 22:01:05 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:01:05 +0200 Subject: quitting apps. In-Reply-To: References: <312992B7-BA91-41E8-BF75-C8D5248BD56C@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <276F722F-2106-41B5-8628-DF582B6A8924@gmail.com> Hi, To disable this, go into System Preferences, click General and check the box that says "Restore windows when quitting and reopening apps." Previously, this used to also disable resume completely which I thought was nice, but sadly, this is no longer the case. This means that if you use commands like Control-Command-Option-Eject, resume is forced when starting your Mac. The only way to prevent this, seemingly, is to click "Shut down" from the Apple menu, then select the bo that says "Reopen windows when logging back in." Regards, Nic On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > So bare that in mind when you are looking at something you should not (and I mean a surprise Christmas gift for your loved one if you filthy minded people were thinking otherwise), they could easily open Safari back up to be presented with the last web page you were on! > On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:45, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> One feature of Lion that some of you may not be aware of is the fact that the state of your applications is maintained when you exit. So, for example, if you go to: >> >> www.mac-access.net >> >> and exit safari with cmd-q, the next time you launch Safari you'll be taken back there. This is similar to the behaviour of Safari on IOS devices. >> >> Now to prevent this, you have two choices. You can disable this behaviour globally in system preferences|General. Alternatively, you can exit the app using CMD-Option-q. >> >> cheers, >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From motten53 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 22:02:11 2011 From: motten53 at gmail.com (Mary Otten) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:02:11 -0700 Subject: quitting apps. In-Reply-To: <312992B7-BA91-41E8-BF75-C8D5248BD56C@computing.dcu.ie> References: <312992B7-BA91-41E8-BF75-C8D5248BD56C@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <9277FFBF-0719-4605-BA9C-28D42D7CAECC@gmail.com> I have been wondering about this quit app feature and what happens if you've had to force quit an app because it was misbehaving in some way. Next time you open that app, you sure don't want it reverting to the state it was in just prior to your having to force quit it. Mary Mary Otten motten53 at gmail.com From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jul 20 22:03:28 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:03:28 +0100 Subject: quitting apps. In-Reply-To: References: <312992B7-BA91-41E8-BF75-C8D5248BD56C@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <8DFBBF39-54EF-456A-9CA8-D7189E0131B2@computing.dcu.ie> Funny thing Chris, I nearly nearly got caught with just that about a week ago when buy a birthday present for my wife. I was using the GM seed at the time? Wise words! :-) On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:56, Chris Moore wrote: > So bare that in mind when you are looking at something you should not (and I mean a surprise Christmas gift for your loved one if you filthy minded people were thinking otherwise), they could easily open Safari back up to be presented with the last web page you were on! > On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:45, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> One feature of Lion that some of you may not be aware of is the fact that the state of your applications is maintained when you exit. So, for example, if you go to: >> >> www.mac-access.net >> >> and exit safari with cmd-q, the next time you launch Safari you'll be taken back there. This is similar to the behaviour of Safari on IOS devices. >> >> Now to prevent this, you have two choices. You can disable this behaviour globally in system preferences|General. Alternatively, you can exit the app using CMD-Option-q. >> >> cheers, >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From phonerossy at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 22:08:56 2011 From: phonerossy at gmail.com (rossy) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:08:56 +0200 Subject: Take Control of Updating to Lion; update Available In-Reply-To: References: <79F8E37D-34EB-42F1-8D6C-7EDCFEA2897D@mac-access.net> <1349B04A-3BFF-43E1-8918-2AAB0FAE8F94@gmail.com> Message-ID: Il giorno 20/lug/2011, alle ore 22.36, Gordon & Lynne Smith ha scritto: > Our secure sever auto-detects whether you're using n iPhone and, if you are, it switches to the iPhone interface so that it fits the mobile Safari browser. We are gratified by the fact that so many people seem to find this service useful. > lynne , i dont't know if i can explain my self good . but it is so great to have all those books for such a price . i don't worry about my readings because any time i take the train all i need to do is go there and take one of those books . i love all of this and my ipad has gained other value to its reading capabilitis . smile . thank you for all the support and patience ! happy smile . From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 22:11:26 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:11:26 -0700 Subject: quitting apps. In-Reply-To: <312992B7-BA91-41E8-BF75-C8D5248BD56C@computing.dcu.ie> References: <312992B7-BA91-41E8-BF75-C8D5248BD56C@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <7C612E17-3243-4005-AAB6-10C5337C87C7@gmail.com> Hey thanks for that. something I'll hopefully cover in my first impressions podcast. Take care. On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:45 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi all, > > One feature of Lion that some of you may not be aware of is the fact that the state of your applications is maintained when you exit. So, for example, if you go to: > > www.mac-access.net > > and exit safari with cmd-q, the next time you launch Safari you'll be taken back there. This is similar to the behaviour of Safari on IOS devices. > > Now to prevent this, you have two choices. You can disable this behaviour globally in system preferences|General. Alternatively, you can exit the app using CMD-Option-q. > > cheers, > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Jul 20 22:43:11 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:43:11 -0300 Subject: SoundFlower and Lion. Message-ID: <2594090EF906436298B9D18C7CA965C6@MainComputer> Hi Gang: Am I right in thinking that SoundFlower doesn't work in Lion? Thanks. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6311 (20110720) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 22:53:59 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:53:59 -0700 Subject: quitting apps. In-Reply-To: <8DFBBF39-54EF-456A-9CA8-D7189E0131B2@computing.dcu.ie> References: <312992B7-BA91-41E8-BF75-C8D5248BD56C@computing.dcu.ie> <8DFBBF39-54EF-456A-9CA8-D7189E0131B2@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Actually someone tested it on text edit but they could not get it to work. Hmm wonder if it is a bug? Take care. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:03 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Funny thing Chris, I nearly nearly got caught with just that about a week ago when buy a birthday present for my wife. I was using the GM seed at the time? Wise words! :-) > On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:56, Chris Moore wrote: > >> So bare that in mind when you are looking at something you should not (and I mean a surprise Christmas gift for your loved one if you filthy minded people were thinking otherwise), they could easily open Safari back up to be presented with the last web page you were on! >> On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:45, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> One feature of Lion that some of you may not be aware of is the fact that the state of your applications is maintained when you exit. So, for example, if you go to: >>> >>> www.mac-access.net >>> >>> and exit safari with cmd-q, the next time you launch Safari you'll be taken back there. This is similar to the behaviour of Safari on IOS devices. >>> >>> Now to prevent this, you have two choices. You can disable this behaviour globally in system preferences|General. Alternatively, you can exit the app using CMD-Option-q. >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> D?nal >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Jul 20 23:03:34 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:03:34 +0200 Subject: My two favourite things about Lion In-Reply-To: <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello D?nal, On 20 Jul 2011, at 22:26, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > I've been using Lion for a while, and yes I've downloaded Moira? And rather rapidly stopped using her. The cadence (prosody) of the voice is somewhat irritating. You tried it? Oh my goodness! I've just tried it! Horrible! There's a gap between each word. Such a shame! Try Fiona, she's much better. Scottish, though, of course. Cheers, Anne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jul 20 23:08:48 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:08:48 +0100 Subject: My two favourite things about Lion In-Reply-To: References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> Hello Anne, On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:03, Anne Robertson wrote: > Try Fiona, she's much better. Scottish, though, of course. Well, there's a big debate about whether the Irish are scots who could swim and get away, or whether the Scots are simply the Irish who could swim and get away, but that's an issue for offlist, or another list, but certainly not this list!*smile* Will abuse work's bandwidth tomorrow and download her though? D?nal > > Cheers, > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Jul 20 23:27:40 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:27:40 -0300 Subject: Alex voice question Message-ID: Hi Folks: Is the Alex default voice the same Alex as the one that can be downloaded in the customize options or is that selection a higher quality? Thanks. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6311 (20110720) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From krbarry at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 23:28:23 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:28:23 -0400 Subject: sidebar? Message-ID: <4e27568e.614d340a.2f8e.1e56@mx.google.com> How does one get to the Sidebar? Thanks. Kevin Kevin Barry If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jul 20 23:31:42 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:31:42 +0100 Subject: sidebar? In-Reply-To: <4e27568e.614d340a.2f8e.1e56@mx.google.com> References: <4e27568e.614d340a.2f8e.1e56@mx.google.com> Message-ID: In the Finder Kevin? You might have to show it first using Cmd-Option-s. Then just navigate with standard VO keys. On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:28, Kevin Barry wrote: > How does one get to the Sidebar? > Thanks. > Kevin > > > > Kevin Barry > > If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 23:32:55 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:32:55 +0200 Subject: Alex voice question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jim, Alex can't be downloaded, it's the same one. I don't see how it could be higher quality, since nothing is wrong here. Please be a bit more elaborate, possibly provide audio links of some sort. Regards, Nic On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Is the Alex default voice the same Alex as the one that can be downloaded in the customize options or is that selection a higher quality? > > Thanks. > > > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6311 (20110720) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jul 20 23:33:15 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:33:15 +0100 Subject: Xcode 4.1 Message-ID: <19CAACC4-465A-4F79-B494-91F4D2BBDAD4@computing.dcu.ie> Anyone played with it yet? I'm waiting to go to work to download it. It's about 3 gig. D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 23:35:48 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:35:48 +0200 Subject: Xcode 4.1 In-Reply-To: <19CAACC4-465A-4F79-B494-91F4D2BBDAD4@computing.dcu.ie> References: <19CAACC4-465A-4F79-B494-91F4D2BBDAD4@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <7904432D-6B44-4670-9D7A-4F6B67168813@gmail.com> Hello D?nal Yes, I have played with it. What do you wish to know? Regards, Nic On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:33 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Anyone played with it yet? I'm waiting to go to work to download it. It's about 3 gig. > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jul 20 23:37:57 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:37:57 +0100 Subject: Xcode 4.1 In-Reply-To: <7904432D-6B44-4670-9D7A-4F6B67168813@gmail.com> References: <19CAACC4-465A-4F79-B494-91F4D2BBDAD4@computing.dcu.ie> <7904432D-6B44-4670-9D7A-4F6B67168813@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0F2F7D3B-353B-4773-B64A-2175F4C2E908@computing.dcu.ie> Hi Nick, At this stage just your general impressions will do fine. I'm presuming interface builder is still inaccessible? Blind developers don't seem to be high on Apple's priority list. D?nal On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:35, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello D?nal > > Yes, I have played with it. What do you wish to know? > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:33 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Anyone played with it yet? I'm waiting to go to work to download it. It's about 3 gig. >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 23:39:43 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:39:43 -0700 Subject: Alex voice question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <442845BD-E01C-4AC0-BA10-EFC2DF286579@gmail.com> Ah you're thinking of a different alex. The alex you are thinking of is another language. Take care. On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Alex can't be downloaded, it's the same one. I don't see how it could be higher quality, since nothing is wrong here. Please be a bit more elaborate, possibly provide audio links of some sort. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> Is the Alex default voice the same Alex as the one that can be downloaded in the customize options or is that selection a higher quality? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6311 (20110720) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 23:42:46 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:42:46 +0200 Subject: Alex voice question In-Reply-To: <442845BD-E01C-4AC0-BA10-EFC2DF286579@gmail.com> References: <442845BD-E01C-4AC0-BA10-EFC2DF286579@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi! I guess he was thinking of Alexandros, even though there's quite a big difference in the pronunciation there. At any rate, that's probably the case evn though he's Greek. :) Regards, Nic On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Ah you're thinking of a different alex. The alex you are thinking of is another language. > > Take care. > On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi Jim, >> >> Alex can't be downloaded, it's the same one. I don't see how it could be higher quality, since nothing is wrong here. Please be a bit more elaborate, possibly provide audio links of some sort. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> Is the Alex default voice the same Alex as the one that can be downloaded in the customize options or is that selection a higher quality? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6311 (20110720) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jul 20 23:44:41 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:44:41 +0100 Subject: Alex voice question In-Reply-To: References: <442845BD-E01C-4AC0-BA10-EFC2DF286579@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2A1B9207-A140-4F6D-86F0-B4D6B4BE9A00@computing.dcu.ie> Does he talk about debt, austerity and bale-outs Nick? Oh no hang on that's Moira, sorry I forgot? Sorry people, couldn't resist! On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:42, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > I guess he was thinking of Alexandros, even though there's quite a big difference in the pronunciation there. At any rate, that's probably the case evn though he's Greek. :) > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ah you're thinking of a different alex. The alex you are thinking of is another language. >> >> Take care. >> On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Jim, >>> >>> Alex can't be downloaded, it's the same one. I don't see how it could be higher quality, since nothing is wrong here. Please be a bit more elaborate, possibly provide audio links of some sort. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks: >>>> >>>> Is the Alex default voice the same Alex as the one that can be downloaded in the customize options or is that selection a higher quality? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6311 (20110720) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jul 21 01:08:39 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:08:39 +1000 Subject: OS X Lion and the state of the new 1Password extension (Updated) | Agile Blog Message-ID: <5BC3E1AA-8543-4852-9357-0EE0390D0E8E@internode.on.net> For those who use 1 Password you may find this page of interest, the developers of 1 Password have completely redesigned the Safari extension given the release of Lion and Safari 5.1 http://blog.agilebits.com/2011/07/os-x-lion-and-the-state-of-the-new-1password-extension/ From gunn at tznet.com Thu Jul 21 01:59:27 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:59:27 -0500 Subject: Adding the non-compacted languages In-Reply-To: <65C1E038-C900-4E45-85CB-018EF7CD45F2@gmail.com> References: <57ABFA3B-5742-4E57-AEB9-4C476B684238@gmail.com> <65C1E038-C900-4E45-85CB-018EF7CD45F2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3EE37262-74DC-471D-AC18-9038C5B72DCF@tznet.com> Hello: I would like to also add the voices are roughly 407MB or atleast in the case of Samantha. John On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello James, > > yes, these are free. All I know is that I have not had to pay. :) I would assume that you simpley remove their speech files if you no longer wish to use them from /System/Library/Speech/Voices. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:38 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hello Nic, >> Thank you, but just to confirm, these are not going to cost anything extra? Also, I assume that they can be easily uninstalled if you no longer wish to use them? >> Thanks >> TC :) >> James >> On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:34, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hello James, >>> >>> These are not paid upgrades, and are downloadable. Apple refers to these as "premium" voices. Simply go to the VoiceOver Utility with VO-F8, select the Speech category, then tab to the Default voice pop up button. Select "Customize?" and you will be able to select any of the available voices to show in the Default voice pop up by checking and unchecking boxes. >>> >>> It is also worth noting that you do not need to go into the VoiceOver Utility to download them. As these are compatible with any application using speech, you can also get them by going into System Preferences, clicking Speech then selecting the Text To Speech Tab and clicking "Customize?" >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> Well, I like Anne and very impressed with the pre-installed foreign languages. However, I am curious to know if the non-comapcted languages are part of Lion that come as an extra install, or whether they are paid upgrades? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> TC: ) >>>> James >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From gunn at tznet.com Thu Jul 21 02:01:35 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:01:35 -0500 Subject: quitting apps. In-Reply-To: <9277FFBF-0719-4605-BA9C-28D42D7CAECC@gmail.com> References: <312992B7-BA91-41E8-BF75-C8D5248BD56C@computing.dcu.ie> <9277FFBF-0719-4605-BA9C-28D42D7CAECC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <38069846-0B98-42F5-9028-F4F68E169A80@tznet.com> Hello Mary: And that is a good reason in my opinion Apple left the option for the user to decide. John On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > I have been wondering about this quit app feature and what happens if you've had to force quit an app because it was misbehaving in some way. Next time you open that app, you sure don't want it reverting to the state it was in just prior to your having to force quit it. > > Mary > > Mary Otten > motten53 at gmail.com > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 05:08:11 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:08:11 -0700 Subject: how can a user connect to a mac via afp if they don't run osx? In-Reply-To: <8C4C86D9-14A0-4A02-8D12-A76A3A06F042@softcon.com> References: <3132BC97-1243-4A05-9312-2590BA05E931@softcon.com> <35AE29DE-F7EF-444B-B122-0E574811540B@gmail.com> <6B96B903-E442-4337-B01F-B9BE18A5BD2B@softcon.com> <8C4C86D9-14A0-4A02-8D12-A76A3A06F042@softcon.com> Message-ID: <86DAF687-0B8A-4F6C-AC86-BF9A81021CB8@gmail.com> Ah thanks. I'll try this in snl first so I don't feel stupid. On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> and will I still be able to do this in lion if they cant reach me in time and of corse there account is password protected. > > > If you're using the web option, by dropping files in a folder under your sites folder, no additional accounts are necessary, just the url to the folder on your home folder. that's all. > Saves you from needing to create any user accounts, all you need is the url to the folder where you dropped the files. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From va3ets2000 at me.com Thu Jul 21 05:55:30 2011 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:55:30 -0400 Subject: MOving files in lion... In-Reply-To: References: <9BA091E3-D896-4FC2-B2D4-020D38FE1454@gmail.com> Message-ID: <941C5D18-6FE9-42D5-9B7A-1C37E9030344@me.com> Yeah that's weird that it isn't in help, or in the edit menu. On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Fantastic, I have been after that feature since Panther! > > Chris > On 20 Jul 2011, at 20:25, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Moving files with Command-Option-V is correct. First, you have to copy it with Command-C so that VoiceOver announces it has copied, move to the directory where you wish to place the file then hit command-Option-V to move it. I discovered this also, but found it odd that I had not seen any references to this within the help or in the appropriate menus. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >> >>> According to Tidbits you can now use command-option-V to move instead of copy a file. >>> >>> Also for those experimenting with drag and drop in all versions of Mac OS since at least version 7 when draging to a folder on the same physical device the Operating System would move the file, but when dragging to a different device it would perform a copy. >>> >>> I will not be attempting to use Lion for a couple of weeks. I plan on reading a few transition articles, and repartition my wife's machine so she can run Snow Leopard for Quicken and Lion for the rest of her applications. After I have learned from that experience, I will migrate my personal machine. >>> >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> Jonathan C. Cohn >>> joncohn at cox.net >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 06:12:25 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:12:25 +0100 Subject: Adding the non-compacted languages In-Reply-To: <79C76439-77CF-45C0-869C-C051444B1309@mac-access.net> References: <57ABFA3B-5742-4E57-AEB9-4C476B684238@gmail.com> <65C1E038-C900-4E45-85CB-018EF7CD45F2@gmail.com> <79C76439-77CF-45C0-869C-C051444B1309@mac-access.net> Message-ID: you gave in then in the end ajmes lol i waiting for a few months I think On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:47 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Fabulous thanks Nic > On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:45, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hello James, >> >> yes, these are free. All I know is that I have not had to pay. :) I would assume that you simpley remove their speech files if you no longer wish to use them from /System/Library/Speech/Voices. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:38 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hello Nic, >>> Thank you, but just to confirm, these are not going to cost anything extra? Also, I assume that they can be easily uninstalled if you no longer wish to use them? >>> Thanks >>> TC :) >>> James >>> On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:34, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> >>>> Hello James, >>>> >>>> These are not paid upgrades, and are downloadable. Apple refers to these as "premium" voices. Simply go to the VoiceOver Utility with VO-F8, select the Speech category, then tab to the Default voice pop up button. Select "Customize?" and you will be able to select any of the available voices to show in the Default voice pop up by checking and unchecking boxes. >>>> >>>> It is also worth noting that you do not need to go into the VoiceOver Utility to download them. As these are compatible with any application using speech, you can also get them by going into System Preferences, clicking Speech then selecting the Text To Speech Tab and clicking "Customize?" >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Nic >>>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Well, I like Anne and very impressed with the pre-installed foreign languages. However, I am curious to know if the non-comapcted languages are part of Lion that come as an extra install, or whether they are paid upgrades? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> TC: ) >>>>> James >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 07:03:21 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:03:21 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <48A8BAEB-E707-4F05-AA7C-FDE3355F89C9@mac-access.net> Hello everybody It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Matt Diemert to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From support at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 07:05:05 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:05:05 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <023D7D06-5081-45A2-B6DD-DD60BB01FD0A@mac-access.net> Hello everybody It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome joe quinn to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Thu Jul 21 07:26:10 2011 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (Michael Fridey) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:26:10 +1000 Subject: help with os lion. Message-ID: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> Hi guys I am down loading os Lion now its in the doc it says its down loading but I can not tell how long it will take. If i do a shift vo m it says pause or cansle down load. So is their a way for me to check how long it will take its been nearly 2 hours so far. cheers Michael. From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 07:29:27 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:29:27 +0100 Subject: help with os lion. In-Reply-To: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> Message-ID: <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> Hi Michael Not as far as I know. It took me just over three hours. When it's done though you'll find the installer in your Applications folder. TC :) James On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:26, Michael Fridey wrote: > Hi guys I am down loading os Lion now its in the doc it says its down loading but I can not tell how long it will take. > > If i do a shift vo m it says pause or cansle down load. > So is their a way for me to check how long it will take its been nearly 2 hours so far. > cheers Michael. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Thu Jul 21 07:31:45 2011 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (Michael Fridey) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:31:45 +1000 Subject: help with os lion. In-Reply-To: <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: cheers Michael.i did not want to hear that thanks James.Boy oh boy On 21/07/2011, at 4:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Michael > Not as far as I know. It took me just over three hours. When it's done though you'll find the installer in your Applications folder. > > TC :) > James > On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:26, Michael Fridey wrote: > >> Hi guys I am down loading os Lion now its in the doc it says its down loading but I can not tell how long it will take. >> >> If i do a shift vo m it says pause or cansle down load. >> So is their a way for me to check how long it will take its been nearly 2 hours so far. >> cheers Michael. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 07:57:18 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:57:18 +0100 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! Message-ID: Hello everybody Why, oh why, does this always have to happen to us! On Monday of this week, I ordered us a new mac Mini server machine, in order to replace the old PowerPC which has been running since 2005 24/7 but which fell victim to the ravages of time late last week and failed. The new machine arrived on Tuesday afternoon. I just looked on the Apple website and, low and behold, the machine has been updated since Monday. The Mac Mini is now an Intel? I5 Core duo processor, whereas ours is a Core2 Duo. OK, it's 2.0 GHZ instead of 2.66 as ours is. But it's ?50.00 cheaper, and comes with Lion Server. I just don't get it; why on earth can't Apple tell you they are about to update something you've ordered and give you the opportunity to wait for the updated version? I am now probably going to have to install the software back to factory defaults, pack the machine up and arrange an RMA because I don't think it's right that we should be penalised like that; they should have told us. We think there's a way we can upgrade for free to Lion Server; but the hardware changes and the price difference are the issues here. Just out of interest, does anybody happen to know what is the difference between the Core2 Duo and the I5? Gordon thinks the I5 has a larger L2 cash, but that's not really a problem. What I want to know is whether we'd notice any difference in functionality. Obviously the price is another issue as I said, but why is it cheaper? At this point I am very disappointed with Apple's marketing. They should have done the right thing by us instead of just blatantly ignoring the fact that they were about to update the hardware. This is one reason why I hate Apple's policy of secrecy. This is taking secrecy too far! Lynne From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jul 21 08:00:13 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:00:13 +1000 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <174770E5-5038-4766-876E-5ED3A9F30FBE@internode.on.net> Why oh why don't you take this up with Apple? I bought a 1TB Time Capsule to find that it was superseded by a 2TB model, one call to Apple and a swap was arranged. On 21/07/2011, at 4:57 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Why, oh why, does this always have to happen to us! On Monday of this week, I ordered us a new mac Mini server machine, in order to replace the old PowerPC which has been running since 2005 24/7 but which fell victim to the ravages of time late last week and failed. The new machine arrived on Tuesday afternoon. I just looked on the Apple website and, low and behold, the machine has been updated since Monday. The Mac Mini is now an Intel? I5 Core duo processor, whereas ours is a Core2 Duo. OK, it's 2.0 GHZ instead of 2.66 as ours is. But it's ?50.00 cheaper, and comes with Lion Server. > > I just don't get it; why on earth can't Apple tell you they are about to update something you've ordered and give you the opportunity to wait for the updated version? I am now probably going to have to install the software back to factory defaults, pack the machine up and arrange an RMA because I don't think it's right that we should be penalised like that; they should have told us. > > We think there's a way we can upgrade for free to Lion Server; but the hardware changes and the price difference are the issues here. Just out of interest, does anybody happen to know what is the difference between the Core2 Duo and the I5? Gordon thinks the I5 has a larger L2 cash, but that's not really a problem. What I want to know is whether we'd notice any difference in functionality. Obviously the price is another issue as I said, but why is it cheaper? At this point I am very disappointed with Apple's marketing. They should have done the right thing by us instead of just blatantly ignoring the fact that they were about to update the hardware. This is one reason why I hate Apple's policy of secrecy. This is taking secrecy too far! > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 08:19:51 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:19:51 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Using Lion; We're on it's trail Message-ID: <75466C3F-C434-4CF3-BF2F-BF1CDC39E908@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Just so that you know, if you're one of those who pre-ordered the Take Control of Using Lion book from us. We are contacting the publishers to see what's happening about this book. So far it doesn't look as though they have released it. But we're making enquiries and will keep you informed. Be assured though, it isn't Mac Access Dot Net who is delaying your receipt of the book. As soon as we get it, so it will be made available to those who have pre-ordered. Lynne From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Thu Jul 21 08:25:07 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:25:07 +0100 Subject: help with os lion. In-Reply-To: References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk> Hello Listers My OS X Lion item in the dock is now showing 'paused' after several hours of download. Is there a way of restarting this or removing from the dock and re-downloading? Any help welcomed. Oh for the days of Snow Leopard when you just bought the DVD. :) On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:31, Michael Fridey wrote: > > cheers Michael.i did not want to hear that thanks James.Boy oh boy > On 21/07/2011, at 4:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Michael >> Not as far as I know. It took me just over three hours. When it's done though you'll find the installer in your Applications folder. >> >> TC :) >> James >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:26, Michael Fridey wrote: >> >>> Hi guys I am down loading os Lion now its in the doc it says its down loading but I can not tell how long it will take. >>> >>> If i do a shift vo m it says pause or cansle down load. >>> So is their a way for me to check how long it will take its been nearly 2 hours so far. >>> cheers Michael. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Thu Jul 21 08:50:27 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:50:27 +1000 Subject: help with os lion. In-Reply-To: <61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> <61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <25BB5578-167F-4536-BDAC-E65A5ABD9A01@bluebottle.com> yes there sure is go to the app store again it should have install lion free hit enter on this then go to the store menu go to purchased and then find lion then there should be a resumer button click that and it should resume from where it left off please note it will take a few seconds to update from 0 to where it left off hope this helps cheers from krystal ps i lost speasch during my install so had to do a forced restart vo crashed is how i know about the resume feature thanks On 21/07/2011, at 5:25 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello Listers > My OS X Lion item in the dock is now showing 'paused' after several hours of download. Is there a way of restarting this or removing from the dock and re-downloading? > Any help welcomed. > Oh for the days of Snow Leopard when you just bought the DVD. :) > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:31, Michael Fridey wrote: > >> >> cheers Michael.i did not want to hear that thanks James.Boy oh boy >> On 21/07/2011, at 4:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Michael >>> Not as far as I know. It took me just over three hours. When it's done though you'll find the installer in your Applications folder. >>> >>> TC :) >>> James >>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:26, Michael Fridey wrote: >>> >>>> Hi guys I am down loading os Lion now its in the doc it says its down loading but I can not tell how long it will take. >>>> >>>> If i do a shift vo m it says pause or cansle down load. >>>> So is their a way for me to check how long it will take its been nearly 2 hours so far. >>>> cheers Michael. >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Thu Jul 21 08:52:18 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:52:18 +1000 Subject: help with os lion. In-Reply-To: <61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> <61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: i do know what you mean it would be cool to get a dvd of it but hey i guess times are changing and we just have to deal with it i guess On 21/07/2011, at 5:25 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hello Listers > My OS X Lion item in the dock is now showing 'paused' after several hours of download. Is there a way of restarting this or removing from the dock and re-downloading? > Any help welcomed. > Oh for the days of Snow Leopard when you just bought the DVD. :) > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:31, Michael Fridey wrote: > >> >> cheers Michael.i did not want to hear that thanks James.Boy oh boy >> On 21/07/2011, at 4:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Michael >>> Not as far as I know. It took me just over three hours. When it's done though you'll find the installer in your Applications folder. >>> >>> TC :) >>> James >>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:26, Michael Fridey wrote: >>> >>>> Hi guys I am down loading os Lion now its in the doc it says its down loading but I can not tell how long it will take. >>>> >>>> If i do a shift vo m it says pause or cansle down load. >>>> So is their a way for me to check how long it will take its been nearly 2 hours so far. >>>> cheers Michael. >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jul 21 09:14:32 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:14:32 +0100 Subject: possible bug in iTunes 10.4 Message-ID: <99C1F98F-5910-4157-BD7E-2CEF2C2AE3A8@computing.dcu.ie> Morning all, wOnder if anyone else can reproduce this. If someone could go to the "sources" table, and not interact. Simply use up and down arrow to go up/down through this table. Are you getting spoken feedback? *this is also the case for me in other tables (such as books) in itunes. D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 09:48:11 2011 From: skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com (Kliph&Sharrie) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 03:48:11 -0500 Subject: Take Control of Using Lion; We're on it's trail In-Reply-To: <75466C3F-C434-4CF3-BF2F-BF1CDC39E908@mac-access.net> References: <75466C3F-C434-4CF3-BF2F-BF1CDC39E908@mac-access.net> Message-ID: How much is it, and what formats will it be available in. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 21, 2011, at 2:19 AM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Just so that you know, if you're one of those who pre-ordered the Take Control of Using Lion book from us. We are contacting the publishers to see what's happening about this book. So far it doesn't look as though they have released it. But we're making enquiries and will keep you informed. Be assured though, it isn't Mac Access Dot Net who is delaying your receipt of the book. As soon as we get it, so it will be made available to those who have pre-ordered. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 09:54:16 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:54:16 +0100 Subject: Magic Trackpad Message-ID: Hello everybody I'm wondering whether the magic Trackpad might help Gordon when navigating web pages. Somebody mentioned this a while ago; but we've forgotten how it works. Could somebody remind me? Also, I'm wondering whether the trackpad might be better if it were external rather than the one built-in to the MacBook Pro machines. Gordon's preferred method of working is with a keyboard on his lap and the MBP on a little table in front of him. I won't go into the reasons for this; but there are good reasons. Anyway, does anybody think the magic trackpad would help? Lynne From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 10:09:47 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:09:47 +0100 Subject: help with os lion. In-Reply-To: <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello everybody Just a tip; when you download Lion, if you have multiple machines makes sure you backup the installer before you do the first installation on your default machine. Otherwise, the installer will be deleted and you'll have to download it over again. Gordon On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:29, James AUSTIN wrote: Hi Michael Not as far as I know. It took me just over three hours. When it's done though you'll find the installer in your Applications folder. From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 10:11:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:11:27 +0100 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <174770E5-5038-4766-876E-5ED3A9F30FBE@internode.on.net> References: <174770E5-5038-4766-876E-5ED3A9F30FBE@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hello Dane On 21 Jul 2011, at 08:00, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? Why oh why don't you take this up with Apple? I am! I don't recall saying I wasn't going too; I just mentioned it so that others may avoid the trap that we fell into. Lynne From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jul 21 10:12:48 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:12:48 +1000 Subject: Magic Trackpad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34BC94A9-C275-4653-BCC5-8F34AD9C48E6@internode.on.net> On your last point first, I have a Macbook, no not a Macbook Pro but it too! has an inbuilt Trackpad and I much prefer to use the external Magic Trackpad, main reason being its bigger size. Navigating web pages with the Magic Trackpad - or the built-in one on a Macbook machine for that matter - is done in much the same way as on an iPad or on an iPhone, you have your rotor from which you select your navigation elements such as links, headings, etc, then its a matter of swiping up or down to navigate between next and previous elements as defined by your selection with the rotor. That's what I do here, others I'm sure will have other comments and perhaps more advanced ways of doing things, for example I know one can define gestures with the Magic Trackpad and Voiceover, that's something I've not tried yet. On 21/07/2011, at 6:54 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I'm wondering whether the magic Trackpad might help Gordon when navigating web pages. Somebody mentioned this a while ago; but we've forgotten how it works. Could somebody remind me? Also, I'm wondering whether the trackpad might be better if it were external rather than the one built-in to the MacBook Pro machines. Gordon's preferred method of working is with a keyboard on his lap and the MBP on a little table in front of him. I won't go into the reasons for this; but there are good reasons. Anyway, does anybody think the magic trackpad would help? > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 10:13:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:13:31 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Using Lion; We're on it's trail In-Reply-To: References: <75466C3F-C434-4CF3-BF2F-BF1CDC39E908@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello On 21 Jul 2011, at 09:48, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: The two books together cost about 7 US Dollars if you get it from us. That's just a guess; as I haven't converted. Lynne How much is it, and what formats will it be available in. From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 10:18:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:18:27 +0100 Subject: Magic Trackpad In-Reply-To: <34BC94A9-C275-4653-BCC5-8F34AD9C48E6@internode.on.net> References: <34BC94A9-C275-4653-BCC5-8F34AD9C48E6@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <2F355A9B-FF1C-4F88-88AA-E95732E5EB8F@mac-access.net> Hello Dane Gordon dislikes the inbuilt trackpad because of the fact that it's so sensitive. To be honest with you, we very rarely use the web browser on the iOS devices. We can use it, of course, but usually we are within range of a Mac when we want the web. However, I just ordered us a couple of trackpads. One will do nicely upstairs and the other for the MacBook Pros down here. I think that it's something that Gordon really needs to become used too, as he is still very much a keyboard person. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 10:39:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:39:24 +0100 Subject: Apple Customer Services for UK, Ireland and Europe Message-ID: <3C3890E2-35A0-4AF6-8E49-DF562B459F66@mac-access.net> Hello everybody; particularly those in the UK and Europe on this occasions. :) Does anybody happen to know whether Apple customer Services has an email address? We're having a lot of trouble contacting them by telephone today; lines are busy. \ Lynne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jul 21 10:43:17 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:43:17 +0100 Subject: Apple Customer Services for UK, Ireland and Europe In-Reply-To: <3C3890E2-35A0-4AF6-8E49-DF562B459F66@mac-access.net> References: <3C3890E2-35A0-4AF6-8E49-DF562B459F66@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, I don't have a an email, but try switching to the Irish store and see if that helps? Their headquarters for Europe certainly were based in Cork, though given the mass exodus of companies from here (and who can blame them) I'm not sure if this is still the case. D?nal On 21 Jul 2011, at 10:39, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody; particularly those in the UK and Europe on this occasions. :) > > Does anybody happen to know whether Apple customer Services has an email address? We're having a lot of trouble contacting them by telephone today; lines are busy. > \ > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jul 21 10:53:11 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:53:11 +1000 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: References: <174770E5-5038-4766-876E-5ED3A9F30FBE@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4E27F707.7070607@internode.on.net> No matter how well informed a person is, there's no way that they could avoid that trap. In my case with the Time Capsule, whether I did or didn't get my unit replaced was of little consequence, i'd saved for 6 months to buy one so - even supposing I didn't have the 1TB swapped over for a 2TB model - I knew exactly what I'd been saving for and I was able to purchase it and getting the goal of my savings was my ambission which was fulfilled, people can be a bit too precious sometimes. On 21/07/2011 7:11 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 08:00, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > ? Why oh why don't you take this up with Apple? > > I am! I don't recall saying I wasn't going too; I just mentioned it so that others may avoid the trap that we fell into. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 11:07:19 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:07:19 +0100 Subject: help with os lion. In-Reply-To: References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> <61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net> You can burn a DVD or USB Flash Drive of the installer. There are plenty of articles on Google, and there is also one on mac-Access.net, but I can't remember the exact address. You'll find it though if you go to mac-access.net TC :) James On 21 Jul 2011, at 08:52, krystal watson wrote: > i do know what you mean it would be cool to get a dvd of it but hey i guess times are changing and we just have to deal with it i guess > On 21/07/2011, at 5:25 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > >> Hello Listers >> My OS X Lion item in the dock is now showing 'paused' after several hours of download. Is there a way of restarting this or removing from the dock and re-downloading? >> Any help welcomed. >> Oh for the days of Snow Leopard when you just bought the DVD. :) >> >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:31, Michael Fridey wrote: >> >>> >>> cheers Michael.i did not want to hear that thanks James.Boy oh boy >>> On 21/07/2011, at 4:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Michael >>>> Not as far as I know. It took me just over three hours. When it's done though you'll find the installer in your Applications folder. >>>> >>>> TC :) >>>> James >>>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:26, Michael Fridey wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi guys I am down loading os Lion now its in the doc it says its down loading but I can not tell how long it will take. >>>>> >>>>> If i do a shift vo m it says pause or cansle down load. >>>>> So is their a way for me to check how long it will take its been nearly 2 hours so far. >>>>> cheers Michael. >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 11:09:39 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:09:39 +0100 Subject: possible bug in iTunes 10.4 In-Reply-To: <99C1F98F-5910-4157-BD7E-2CEF2C2AE3A8@computing.dcu.ie> References: <99C1F98F-5910-4157-BD7E-2CEF2C2AE3A8@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hi D?nal I am getting feedback in the "Sources" table, but not in the "Music" table as ITunes seems to call it.. I am getting feedback though if I use VO + arrow keys. HTH TC :) james On 21 Jul 2011, at 09:14, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Morning all, > > wOnder if anyone else can reproduce this. If someone could go to the "sources" table, and not interact. Simply use up and down arrow to go up/down through this table. Are you getting spoken feedback? *this is also the case for me in other tables (such as books) in itunes. > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Thu Jul 21 11:10:12 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:10:12 -0400 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <4E27F707.7070607@internode.on.net> References: <174770E5-5038-4766-876E-5ED3A9F30FBE@internode.on.net> <4E27F707.7070607@internode.on.net> Message-ID: In my case, I bought my Macbook Pro in January of 2010. In about this Mac, it shows up as the mid 2009 model. Three months later, the Macs were updated to i5 core processors. I suppose three months seems like a long span of time to most people, but I wish I would have known myself. I would have waited if I knew how close the upgrade process really was. Rose On Jul 21, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > No matter how well informed a person is, there's no way that they could avoid that trap. > > In my case with the Time Capsule, whether I did or didn't get my unit replaced was of little consequence, i'd saved for 6 months to buy one so - even supposing I didn't have the 1TB swapped over for a 2TB model - I knew exactly what I'd been saving for and I was able to purchase it and getting the goal of my savings was my ambission which was fulfilled, people can be a bit too precious sometimes. > > > > On 21/07/2011 7:11 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> Hello Dane >> >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 08:00, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> ? Why oh why don't you take this up with Apple? >> >> I am! I don't recall saying I wasn't going too; I just mentioned it so that others may avoid the trap that we fell into. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > skype callto:grtdane12 > MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jul 21 11:16:58 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:16:58 +0100 Subject: possible bug in iTunes 10.4 In-Reply-To: References: <99C1F98F-5910-4157-BD7E-2CEF2C2AE3A8@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <4E01A83F-7C71-4663-A2B7-C8354B622ABE@computing.dcu.ie> interesting James. I'm not getting the feedback in the sources table, but you're right VO-arrows work fine. On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:09, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi D?nal > I am getting feedback in the "Sources" table, but not in the "Music" table as ITunes seems to call it.. I am getting feedback though if I use VO + arrow keys. > > HTH > TC :) > james > On 21 Jul 2011, at 09:14, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Morning all, >> >> wOnder if anyone else can reproduce this. If someone could go to the "sources" table, and not interact. Simply use up and down arrow to go up/down through this table. Are you getting spoken feedback? *this is also the case for me in other tables (such as books) in itunes. >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From krbarry at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 11:23:15 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:23:15 -0400 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> This really shouldn't have been much of a surprise. It has been known for a while, to some degree of certainty, that the Minis were getting a refresh this summer. I am thinking of getting a mini server to use mostly as a personal machine due to the quad core processor. Kevin At 02:57 AM 7/21/2011, you wrote: >Hello everybody > >Why, oh why, does this always have to happen to >us! On Monday of this week, I ordered us a new >mac Mini server machine, in order to replace the >old PowerPC which has been running since 2005 >24/7 but which fell victim to the ravages of >time late last week and failed. The new machine >arrived on Tuesday afternoon. I just looked on >the Apple website and, low and behold, the >machine has been updated since Monday. The Mac >Mini is now an Intel? I5 Core duo processor, >whereas ours is a Core2 Duo. OK, it's 2.0 GHZ >instead of 2.66 as ours is. But it's ?50.00 >cheaper, and comes with Lion Server. > >I just don't get it; why on earth can't Apple >tell you they are about to update something >you've ordered and give you the opportunity to >wait for the updated version? I am now probably >going to have to install the software back to >factory defaults, pack the machine up and >arrange an RMA because I don't think it's right >that we should be penalised like that; they should have told us. > >We think there's a way we can upgrade for free >to Lion Server; but the hardware changes and the >price difference are the issues here. Just out >of interest, does anybody happen to know what is >the difference between the Core2 Duo and the I5? >Gordon thinks the I5 has a larger L2 cash, but >that's not really a problem. What I want to know >is whether we'd notice any difference in >functionality. Obviously the price is another >issue as I said, but why is it cheaper? At this >point I am very disappointed with Apple's >marketing. They should have done the right thing >by us instead of just blatantly ignoring the >fact that they were about to update the >hardware. This is one reason why I hate Apple's >policy of secrecy. This is taking secrecy too far! > >Lynne > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your >message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all >messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed >malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership >options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Thu Jul 21 11:27:52 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:27:52 -0400 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> References: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Summer is such a broad term though. Summer could be anywhere from June 21 to September 21st. That's an elapsed time of three months, but four months can say they are a part of summer. Seems like a very broad estimate to me. Rose On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > This really shouldn't have been much of a surprise. > It has been known for a while, to some degree of certainty, that the Minis were getting a refresh this summer. > I am thinking of getting a mini server to use mostly as a personal machine due to the quad core processor. > Kevin > > At 02:57 AM 7/21/2011, you wrote: >> Hello everybody >> >> Why, oh why, does this always have to happen to us! On Monday of this week, I ordered us a new mac Mini server machine, in order to replace the old PowerPC which has been running since 2005 24/7 but which fell victim to the ravages of time late last week and failed. The new machine arrived on Tuesday afternoon. I just looked on the Apple website and, low and behold, the machine has been updated since Monday. The Mac Mini is now an Intel? I5 Core duo processor, whereas ours is a Core2 Duo. OK, it's 2.0 GHZ instead of 2.66 as ours is. But it's ?50.00 cheaper, and comes with Lion Server. >> >> I just don't get it; why on earth can't Apple tell you they are about to update something you've ordered and give you the opportunity to wait for the updated version? I am now probably going to have to install the software back to factory defaults, pack the machine up and arrange an RMA because I don't think it's right that we should be penalised like that; they should have told us. >> >> We think there's a way we can upgrade for free to Lion Server; but the hardware changes and the price difference are the issues here. Just out of interest, does anybody happen to know what is the difference between the Core2 Duo and the I5? Gordon thinks the I5 has a larger L2 cash, but that's not really a problem. What I want to know is whether we'd notice any difference in functionality. Obviously the price is another issue as I said, but why is it cheaper? At this point I am very disappointed with Apple's marketing. They should have done the right thing by us instead of just blatantly ignoring the fact that they were about to update the hardware. This is one reason why I hate Apple's policy of secrecy. This is taking secrecy too far! >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 11:31:02 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:31:02 +0100 Subject: Apple Customer Services for UK, Ireland and Europe In-Reply-To: References: <3C3890E2-35A0-4AF6-8E49-DF562B459F66@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Donal Yes; Apple is still in Cork. I have looked high and low on their site but they don't quote any email contact at all. I also clicked on the "Call me now" link in the "Express Lane" I waited, and I waited, and I waited, and still nothing has happened. Lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 10:43, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: I don't have a an email, but try switching to the Irish store and see if that helps? Their headquarters for Europe certainly were based in Cork, though given the mass exodus of companies from here (and who can blame them) I'm not sure if this is still the case. From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jul 21 11:38:09 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:38:09 +0100 Subject: possible bug in iTunes 10.4 In-Reply-To: <4E01A83F-7C71-4663-A2B7-C8354B622ABE@computing.dcu.ie> References: <99C1F98F-5910-4157-BD7E-2CEF2C2AE3A8@computing.dcu.ie> <4E01A83F-7C71-4663-A2B7-C8354B622ABE@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: I am not getting any feedback within the sources table unless I interact with it. I am not getting any feedback in the music table either unless I interact with it too. This is quite annoying when you want to quickly see which podcasts are unread when scrolling down the list in the podcast folder. The column browser is still listed as playlist browser. I also find iTunes very sluggish, when I stop interacting with the sources list, then move to the playlist browser, I am told iTunes is busy, then I eventually move over the playlist (which should be column browser) to get to my music list and I am told again that this is busy. This never happened in the previous version. You would have thought now that iTunes is 64 bit that it would run a bit quicker? Chris On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:16, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > interesting James. I'm not getting the feedback in the sources table, but you're right VO-arrows work fine. > On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:09, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi D?nal >> I am getting feedback in the "Sources" table, but not in the "Music" table as ITunes seems to call it.. I am getting feedback though if I use VO + arrow keys. >> >> HTH >> TC :) >> james >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 09:14, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Morning all, >>> >>> wOnder if anyone else can reproduce this. If someone could go to the "sources" table, and not interact. Simply use up and down arrow to go up/down through this table. Are you getting spoken feedback? *this is also the case for me in other tables (such as books) in itunes. >>> >>> D?nal >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jul 21 11:39:38 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:39:38 +0100 Subject: possible bug in iTunes 10.4 In-Reply-To: References: <99C1F98F-5910-4157-BD7E-2CEF2C2AE3A8@computing.dcu.ie> <4E01A83F-7C71-4663-A2B7-C8354B622ABE@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Agreed Chris it's very very buggy indeed. On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:38, Chris Moore wrote: > I am not getting any feedback within the sources table unless I interact with it. I am not getting any feedback in the music table either unless I interact with it too. This is quite annoying when you want to quickly see which podcasts are unread when scrolling down the list in the podcast folder. > > The column browser is still listed as playlist browser. I also find iTunes very sluggish, when I stop interacting with the sources list, then move to the playlist browser, I am told iTunes is busy, then I eventually move over the playlist (which should be column browser) to get to my music list and I am told again that this is busy. This never happened in the previous version. > > You would have thought now that iTunes is 64 bit that it would run a bit quicker? > > Chris > On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:16, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> interesting James. I'm not getting the feedback in the sources table, but you're right VO-arrows work fine. >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:09, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi D?nal >>> I am getting feedback in the "Sources" table, but not in the "Music" table as ITunes seems to call it.. I am getting feedback though if I use VO + arrow keys. >>> >>> HTH >>> TC :) >>> james >>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 09:14, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Morning all, >>>> >>>> wOnder if anyone else can reproduce this. If someone could go to the "sources" table, and not interact. Simply use up and down arrow to go up/down through this table. Are you getting spoken feedback? *this is also the case for me in other tables (such as books) in itunes. >>>> >>>> D?nal >>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 11:43:10 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:43:10 +0100 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <4E27F707.7070607@internode.on.net> References: <174770E5-5038-4766-876E-5ED3A9F30FBE@internode.on.net> <4E27F707.7070607@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <408F7EAA-5A97-4FEE-B408-82638B34798B@mac-access.net> Hello Dane & anybody else who is interested Nothing personal Dane; but you are totally missing the point here. All that stuff about saving and swapping is totally irrelevant. The point I'm making and the reason why I am so annoyed is because 48 hours after our purchase, the model is updated. Back in 2005 when Gordon bought his first Mac Mini, apple contacted him after he placed the order and he was given the option to wait a week or so for an updated version of the machine he ordered. Gordon apparently gook that option, and waited. This time, Apple gave us absolutely no indication whatsoever that an upgrade was imminent, not to mention the fact that the price was changing. They simply went ahead with the order without even bothering to attend to customer satisfaction. If I get an order, (as has happened very recently) for Take Control books for instance, and I know an update is due, I will always contact the customer and advise them of the pending update. I'll then give them the option to wait a day or two or buy now. That is the way to get good customer relations. Rather than simply disregarding the fact that even while the model is in the hands of the courier, the manufacturers have rendered it obsolete. Yes, of course, I knew about the pending Lion update. That isn't a problem. The issue here is one of hardware. Less than 48 hours out of the warehouse and it's obsolete. That isn't the way to treat one's customers in my opinion. They demonstrated that in 2005 when they gave Gordon the opportunity to wait for the updated version which is what happened and he was quite satisfied. I hope I'm making myself clear. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 11:46:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:46:31 +0100 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: References: <174770E5-5038-4766-876E-5ED3A9F30FBE@internode.on.net> <4E27F707.7070607@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <79E3E3FF-74FA-46B4-A19D-AA878EFA4506@mac-access.net> Hello Rose This is the problem, I thin, with Apple's paranoia regarding secrecy. One can trawl around the rumour sites; but one doesn't always get accurate information from there. Yes; I know how you feel. But in our case it was less than 48 hours. We are contemplating just trying to arrange an RMA and getting a refund then we can re-order. But the problem is that would take weeks. They take 10 working days to process refunds. Lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:10, Rose Morales wrote: In my case, I bought my Macbook Pro in January of 2010. In about this Mac, it shows up as the mid 2009 model. Three months later, the Macs were updated to i5 core processors. I suppose three months seems like a long span of time to most people, but I wish I would have known myself. I would have waited if I knew how close the upgrade process really was. Rose On Jul 21, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > No matter how well informed a person is, there's no way that they could avoid that trap. > > In my case with the Time Capsule, whether I did or didn't get my unit replaced was of little consequence, i'd saved for 6 months to buy one so - even supposing I didn't have the 1TB swapped over for a 2TB model - I knew exactly what I'd been saving for and I was able to purchase it and getting the goal of my savings was my ambission which was fulfilled, people can be a bit too precious sometimes. > > > > On 21/07/2011 7:11 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> Hello Dane >> >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 08:00, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> ? Why oh why don't you take this up with Apple? >> >> I am! I don't recall saying I wasn't going too; I just mentioned it so that others may avoid the trap that we fell into. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > skype callto:grtdane12 > MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jul 21 12:05:39 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:05:39 +0100 Subject: possible bug in iTunes 10.4 and some Mail bugs too In-Reply-To: References: <99C1F98F-5910-4157-BD7E-2CEF2C2AE3A8@computing.dcu.ie> <4E01A83F-7C71-4663-A2B7-C8354B622ABE@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <95E9FD48-A3BC-460E-B096-3E990248423C@blueyonder.co.uk> Also, what the heck is a heavy check item? heavy? hmmm I have amended the subject line to include some issues I am having with Mail too. Previously in SL Mail I used to be able to scroll to the bottom and the top of the message list by holding down option + either the up or down arrow. This no longer works, has this keystroke changed? Mail now reads out spelling mistakes in a senders email too, this is quite annoying. I am not really interested in other people's typos as it is distracting. I am only really interested in my own spelling. When opening a conversation (previously known as thread) I hit enter to open all the messages (I know some used to prefer to expand the thread/conversation instead), previously the first message in the thread would be shown first, and then I would press back space to delete and close the message to get to the next one in the thread. Now Mail has this in reverse order, the newest message pops up first and the message that should have been first now appears at the back. So you end up reading the conversation back to front. Alex sounds very scary when you backspace too, but I am quite liking the new iCal though. On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:38, Chris Moore wrote: > I am not getting any feedback within the sources table unless I interact with it. I am not getting any feedback in the music table either unless I interact with it too. This is quite annoying when you want to quickly see which podcasts are unread when scrolling down the list in the podcast folder. > > The column browser is still listed as playlist browser. I also find iTunes very sluggish, when I stop interacting with the sources list, then move to the playlist browser, I am told iTunes is busy, then I eventually move over the playlist (which should be column browser) to get to my music list and I am told again that this is busy. This never happened in the previous version. > > You would have thought now that iTunes is 64 bit that it would run a bit quicker? > > Chris > On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:16, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> interesting James. I'm not getting the feedback in the sources table, but you're right VO-arrows work fine. >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:09, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi D?nal >>> I am getting feedback in the "Sources" table, but not in the "Music" table as ITunes seems to call it.. I am getting feedback though if I use VO + arrow keys. >>> >>> HTH >>> TC :) >>> james >>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 09:14, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Morning all, >>>> >>>> wOnder if anyone else can reproduce this. If someone could go to the "sources" table, and not interact. Simply use up and down arrow to go up/down through this table. Are you getting spoken feedback? *this is also the case for me in other tables (such as books) in itunes. >>>> >>>> D?nal >>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 12:14:43 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:14:43 +0100 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> References: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> Hello Kevin With all due respect, I think you're totally missing the point, as did Dane. This may have been known to you. But not everybody has the time or the resources to spend looking around rumour sites. But even were it known that it was going to happen soon, Apple should have offered us the opportunity to buy the updated model. Lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:23, Kevin Barry wrote: This really shouldn't have been much of a surprise. It has been known for a while, to some degree of certainty, that the Minis were getting a refresh this summer. I am thinking of getting a mini server to use mostly as a personal machine due to the quad core processor. From gat.access at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 13:23:09 2011 From: gat.access at gmail.com (Garry Turkington) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:23:09 +0100 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> References: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, In answer to your question re the Core 2 Duo vs the Core i5 in the new Mac Mini server, I'd expect a significant performance upgrade. These new Core i5 and i7 CPUs are a full 2 generations beyond the Core 2 Duo and benchmarks show them slaughtering the older Duos. The i5 in the server Mac Mini is quad core whereas the i5 and i7 options in the non-server Minis have 2 physical and 2 hyperthreaded cores. But either way when compared to the Duo you are getting a much better architecture, more cores, larger cache and better memory bandwidth. I've been holding fire on a Mac purchase until these new updates hit and if you can RMA or otherwise get the newer Mini model then I suspect you'd absolutely see the benefit -- especially in a 24/7 server box. Garry On 7/21/11, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Kevin > > With all due respect, I think you're totally missing the point, as did Dane. > > This may have been known to you. But not everybody has the time or the > resources to spend looking around rumour sites. But even were it known that > it was going to happen soon, Apple should have offered us the opportunity to > buy the updated model. > > Lynne > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:23, Kevin Barry wrote: > > This really shouldn't have been much of a surprise. > It has been known for a while, to some degree of certainty, that the Minis > were getting a refresh this summer. > I am thinking of getting a mini server to use mostly as a personal machine > due to the quad core processor. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Thu Jul 21 13:57:38 2011 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:57:38 -0500 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! Message-ID: <201107211257.p6LCvcl2043581@x.it.okstate.edu> Apple has always had this disease and I do call it a disease but then a lot of businesses operate as if this was smart management. My introduction to the world of computing was in February of 1979 at a store that sold the Apple II. Every slight rearrangement of the system was heralded with the kind of secrecy usually reserved for nuclear launch sequences and the cracking of enemy codes. Now those things make sense being secret, but the idea of moving 3 or 4 ROM chips from the Applesoft ROM card for floating-point basic down to the mother board was once treated with words like confidential. It was just stupid and 6 months later, didn't amount to a hill of beans worth of difference. When my wife bought her iphone last year, the G4 had just come out but the store that sold her the phone gave her the option of buying one of the last 32-gigabyte G3's for about $100 off or going ahead with the G4 at, of course, full price. She chose the last G3 and isn't the least bit sorry. It's not as if it was a "bag phone" from 1984. It's, of course, up to you, but you should communicate your displeasure as customers ultimately are the only reason Apple stays in business. We used to have a sports announcer for "Monday Night Football" and one of his favorite expressions when someone had created the ideal situation for himself, was to say, "He's in the cat bird's seat." A lot of businesses do whatever they damn well please until enough people call them out about it and then they grudgingly moderate their behavior. "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" writes: > Hello Rose > > This is the problem, I thin, with Apple's paranoia regarding secrecy. One > can trawl around the rumour sites; but one doesn't always get accurate > information from there. Yes; I know how you feel. But in our case it was > less than 48 hours. We are contemplating just trying to arrange an RMA > and getting a refund then we can re-order. But the problem is that would > take weeks. They take 10 working days to process refunds. > > Lynne Good luck. That does sound like a raw deal. From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Thu Jul 21 15:10:57 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:10:57 +0100 Subject: Itunes update. Message-ID: <56D330E9-42A7-4E41-9DE6-014C1C4AE94F@googlemail.com> Hi all just updated my itunes last night and when i arrow down the sorces list it is not reading which one i am on and when i go in to one of the tables such as music it is also not reading anything in the table wondering if any one ells has noticed this and if so what you did to sort it out. thanks very much. Ian McNamara From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 15:13:35 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:13:35 +0100 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: References: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Rose Actually the specs i gave you are wrong. The server contains the i7 not the i5. I'm going to ring Apple and see what they say. They might not entertain it because we bought the machine on 13 July which is more than a wee ago. But I'm pretty miffed to be honest. I just tried to upgrade the software to Lion Server using Apple's up to date programme. When I entered the serial number the web applet at Apple kept telling me that it wasn't a valid serial and system But it was. When I hit the "Continue" button, it gave me a link to the App store and said enter the redemption code. But guess what, there's no darn code! I really wish Apple would get their act together sometimes. Lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 13:23, Garry Turkington wrote: Hi Lynne, In answer to your question re the Core 2 Duo vs the Core i5 in the new Mac Mini server, I'd expect a significant performance upgrade. These new Core i5 and i7 CPUs are a full 2 generations beyond the Core 2 Duo and benchmarks show them slaughtering the older Duos. The i5 in the server Mac Mini is quad core whereas the i5 and i7 options in the non-server Minis have 2 physical and 2 hyperthreaded cores. But either way when compared to the Duo you are getting a much better architecture, more cores, larger cache and better memory bandwidth. I've been holding fire on a Mac purchase until these new updates hit and if you can RMA or otherwise get the newer Mini model then I suspect you'd absolutely see the benefit -- especially in a 24/7 server box. Garry On 7/21/11, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Kevin > > With all due respect, I think you're totally missing the point, as did Dane. > > This may have been known to you. But not everybody has the time or the > resources to spend looking around rumour sites. But even were it known that > it was going to happen soon, Apple should have offered us the opportunity to > buy the updated model. > > Lynne > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:23, Kevin Barry wrote: > > This really shouldn't have been much of a surprise. > It has been known for a while, to some degree of certainty, that the Minis > were getting a refresh this summer. > I am thinking of getting a mini server to use mostly as a personal machine > due to the quad core processor. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 15:15:23 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:15:23 +0100 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: References: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Rose Again, I forgot to change the default mail account; sorry. Lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 15:13, Gordon Smith wrote: Hello Rose Actually the specs i gave you are wrong. The server contains the i7 not the i5. I'm going to ring Apple and see what they say. They might not entertain it because we bought the machine on 13 July which is more than a wee ago. But I'm pretty miffed to be honest. I just tried to upgrade the software to Lion Server using Apple's up to date programme. When I entered the serial number the web applet at Apple kept telling me that it wasn't a valid serial and system But it was. When I hit the "Continue" button, it gave me a link to the App store and said enter the redemption code. But guess what, there's no darn code! I really wish Apple would get their act together sometimes. Lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 13:23, Garry Turkington wrote: Hi Lynne, In answer to your question re the Core 2 Duo vs the Core i5 in the new Mac Mini server, I'd expect a significant performance upgrade. These new Core i5 and i7 CPUs are a full 2 generations beyond the Core 2 Duo and benchmarks show them slaughtering the older Duos. The i5 in the server Mac Mini is quad core whereas the i5 and i7 options in the non-server Minis have 2 physical and 2 hyperthreaded cores. But either way when compared to the Duo you are getting a much better architecture, more cores, larger cache and better memory bandwidth. I've been holding fire on a Mac purchase until these new updates hit and if you can RMA or otherwise get the newer Mini model then I suspect you'd absolutely see the benefit -- especially in a 24/7 server box. Garry On 7/21/11, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Kevin > > With all due respect, I think you're totally missing the point, as did Dane. > > This may have been known to you. But not everybody has the time or the > resources to spend looking around rumour sites. But even were it known that > it was going to happen soon, Apple should have offered us the opportunity to > buy the updated model. > > Lynne > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:23, Kevin Barry wrote: > > This really shouldn't have been much of a surprise. > It has been known for a while, to some degree of certainty, that the Minis > were getting a refresh this summer. > I am thinking of getting a mini server to use mostly as a personal machine > due to the quad core processor. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jul 21 15:16:24 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:16:24 +0100 Subject: Itunes update. In-Reply-To: <56D330E9-42A7-4E41-9DE6-014C1C4AE94F@googlemail.com> References: <56D330E9-42A7-4E41-9DE6-014C1C4AE94F@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Ian, Not sure if you saw my thread and the subsequent posts about this? Quite a few of us are experiencing this problem. It's a bug, not even the most ardent apple zealots on this list can call this a feature! D?nal On 21 Jul 2011, at 15:10, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi all just updated my itunes last night and when i arrow down the sorces list it is not reading which one i am on and when i go in to one of the tables such as music it is also not reading anything in the table wondering if any one ells has noticed this and if so what you did to sort it out. > > thanks very much. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jul 21 15:18:45 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:18:45 +0100 Subject: possible bug in iTunes 10.4 and some Mail bugs too In-Reply-To: <95E9FD48-A3BC-460E-B096-3E990248423C@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <99C1F98F-5910-4157-BD7E-2CEF2C2AE3A8@computing.dcu.ie> <4E01A83F-7C71-4663-A2B7-C8354B622ABE@computing.dcu.ie> <95E9FD48-A3BC-460E-B096-3E990248423C@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <5561191A-2435-4CDA-8B23-9B048912527B@computing.dcu.ie> HI Chris, Again you beat me to it! I was just going to post about the option-up/downarrow problem. This still seems to work in other apps, however iTunes also fails to move the focus from top to bottom of a table using this command. D?nal On 21 Jul 2011, at 12:05, Chris Moore wrote: > Also, what the heck is a heavy check item? heavy? hmmm > > I have amended the subject line to include some issues I am having with Mail too. Previously in SL Mail I used to be able to scroll to the bottom and the top of the message list by holding down option + either the up or down arrow. This no longer works, has this keystroke changed? > > Mail now reads out spelling mistakes in a senders email too, this is quite annoying. I am not really interested in other people's typos as it is distracting. I am only really interested in my own spelling. > > When opening a conversation (previously known as thread) I hit enter to open all the messages (I know some used to prefer to expand the thread/conversation instead), previously the first message in the thread would be shown first, and then I would press back space to delete and close the message to get to the next one in the thread. Now Mail has this in reverse order, the newest message pops up first and the message that should have been first now appears at the back. So you end up reading the conversation back to front. > > Alex sounds very scary when you backspace too, but I am quite liking the new iCal though. > On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:38, Chris Moore wrote: > >> I am not getting any feedback within the sources table unless I interact with it. I am not getting any feedback in the music table either unless I interact with it too. This is quite annoying when you want to quickly see which podcasts are unread when scrolling down the list in the podcast folder. >> >> The column browser is still listed as playlist browser. I also find iTunes very sluggish, when I stop interacting with the sources list, then move to the playlist browser, I am told iTunes is busy, then I eventually move over the playlist (which should be column browser) to get to my music list and I am told again that this is busy. This never happened in the previous version. >> >> You would have thought now that iTunes is 64 bit that it would run a bit quicker? >> >> Chris >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:16, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> interesting James. I'm not getting the feedback in the sources table, but you're right VO-arrows work fine. >>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:09, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Hi D?nal >>>> I am getting feedback in the "Sources" table, but not in the "Music" table as ITunes seems to call it.. I am getting feedback though if I use VO + arrow keys. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> TC :) >>>> james >>>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 09:14, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Morning all, >>>>> >>>>> wOnder if anyone else can reproduce this. If someone could go to the "sources" table, and not interact. Simply use up and down arrow to go up/down through this table. Are you getting spoken feedback? *this is also the case for me in other tables (such as books) in itunes. >>>>> >>>>> D?nal >>>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 16:09:09 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:09:09 +0100 Subject: Nightmare! Upgrading to OSX Server Message-ID: Hello everybody; me again. Those of you who saw this elsewhere in Gordon's name will understand why. ;-) I just attempted to upgrade to OSX 10.7 Server in the app store. Well, I used the Apple "Up to date" programme as I bought a computer just a week ago. Actually, I'm a bit miffed about that because Apple never warned me that an updated model of the Mac Mini Server was just hours away from being introduced. This new model has an Intel I7 processor in it which, of course, beats the pants off the Core2 Duo. The last time this happened was back in 2005 and Apple warned me at that time of the impending release and gave me the option to wait. This time, they just went ahead and completed the sale and it was only a matter of hours afterwards that the website changed and the new machine became available at a cheaper price as well. Anyway to the point. I went to the Apple Up To Date programme and entered the serial number of the machine. After selecting all the correct information on the form, making sure I filled out the Mac OSX Server section, I clicked on Qualify System. No matter what I did, I was getting an "Invalid Serial Number" error, even though the serial number and computer type were correct. So eventually I just entered the serial number and hit Continue. And guess what! It worked! So what was the point of the qualify system button? Total bodge-up on Apple's part it would seem. So then I went to the App store and tried to redeem the codes. The App store subsequently crashed, and the server code wouldn't redeem again. So, I wasted a couple of hours trying everything to redeem that version. I went to the "Purchases" option in the App Store, and clicked on the link that gave me my purchase date. I was prompted to "Install" the Server which, on this machine is not what I want to do. I want to port it over to a new machine. So where would I find the application? It isn't in /Applications/ nor in /Applications/Utilities. So where on earth would it be? This is really really frustrating and I hope that nobody else gets this frustration. I'm really annoyed about that sale though. Apple certainly didn't do me any favours there! Lynne From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Thu Jul 21 16:43:42 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:43:42 +0100 Subject: help with os lion. In-Reply-To: <640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net> References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> <61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk> <640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <17A89C35-FCE4-44D3-8E36-6CCB501823F2@googlemail.com> Hi James and all. I forgot to backup the application before installing it. The reason I did this is because the installer came straight up on my screen. Is there any other way I can get the files again, e.g redownloading it and copying the files? Another question I have is this: I cannot find where to get to the list of mailboxes, e.g inbox, trash, etc. Where does one find this? Hope anyone can help. Lewis. :) On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:07, James AUSTIN wrote: > You can burn a DVD or USB Flash Drive of the installer. There are plenty of articles on Google, and there is also one on mac-Access.net, but I can't remember the exact address. You'll find it though if you go to mac-access.net > > TC :) > James > On 21 Jul 2011, at 08:52, krystal watson wrote: > >> i do know what you mean it would be cool to get a dvd of it but hey i guess times are changing and we just have to deal with it i guess >> On 21/07/2011, at 5:25 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: >> >>> Hello Listers >>> My OS X Lion item in the dock is now showing 'paused' after several hours of download. Is there a way of restarting this or removing from the dock and re-downloading? >>> Any help welcomed. >>> Oh for the days of Snow Leopard when you just bought the DVD. :) >>> >>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:31, Michael Fridey wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> cheers Michael.i did not want to hear that thanks James.Boy oh boy >>>> On 21/07/2011, at 4:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Michael >>>>> Not as far as I know. It took me just over three hours. When it's done though you'll find the installer in your Applications folder. >>>>> >>>>> TC :) >>>>> James >>>>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:26, Michael Fridey wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi guys I am down loading os Lion now its in the doc it says its down loading but I can not tell how long it will take. >>>>>> >>>>>> If i do a shift vo m it says pause or cansle down load. >>>>>> So is their a way for me to check how long it will take its been nearly 2 hours so far. >>>>>> cheers Michael. >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 16:49:23 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:49:23 +0100 Subject: help with os lion. In-Reply-To: <17A89C35-FCE4-44D3-8E36-6CCB501823F2@googlemail.com> References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> <61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk> <640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net> <17A89C35-FCE4-44D3-8E36-6CCB501823F2@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi Lewis, In response to your first question, I think you'll ned to download it again rom the App Store. Because you've already paid for it once though, you won't need to do it again. In response to your second, by default, the Mailboxes table is hidden. Use Command+Shift + M to bring it up. HTH T :) James On 21 Jul 2011, at 16:43, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi James and all. > > I forgot to backup the application before installing it. The reason I did this is because the installer came straight up on my screen. Is there any other way I can get the files again, e.g redownloading it and copying the files? > Another question I have is this: I cannot find where to get to the list of mailboxes, e.g inbox, trash, etc. Where does one find this? > Hope anyone can help. > Lewis. :) > On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:07, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> You can burn a DVD or USB Flash Drive of the installer. There are plenty of articles on Google, and there is also one on mac-Access.net, but I can't remember the exact address. You'll find it though if you go to mac-access.net >> >> TC :) >> James >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 08:52, krystal watson wrote: >> >>> i do know what you mean it would be cool to get a dvd of it but hey i guess times are changing and we just have to deal with it i guess >>> On 21/07/2011, at 5:25 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Listers >>>> My OS X Lion item in the dock is now showing 'paused' after several hours of download. Is there a way of restarting this or removing from the dock and re-downloading? >>>> Any help welcomed. >>>> Oh for the days of Snow Leopard when you just bought the DVD. :) >>>> >>>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:31, Michael Fridey wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> cheers Michael.i did not want to hear that thanks James.Boy oh boy >>>>> On 21/07/2011, at 4:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Michael >>>>>> Not as far as I know. It took me just over three hours. When it's done though you'll find the installer in your Applications folder. >>>>>> >>>>>> TC :) >>>>>> James >>>>>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:26, Michael Fridey wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi guys I am down loading os Lion now its in the doc it says its down loading but I can not tell how long it will take. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If i do a shift vo m it says pause or cansle down load. >>>>>>> So is their a way for me to check how long it will take its been nearly 2 hours so far. >>>>>>> cheers Michael. >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Thu Jul 21 16:51:59 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:51:59 +0100 Subject: help with os lion. In-Reply-To: References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> <61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk> <640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net> <17A89C35-FCE4-44D3-8E36-6CCB501823F2@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <39224425-E58D-46E4-8CB5-F1179B7E0EB9@googlemail.com> HI James. Thanks very much, I will do this. As for everything else, I am loving Lion! I love the quickness of it and the way the voices sound. Regards. Lewis. :) On 21 Jul 2011, at 16:49, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Lewis, > > In response to your first question, I think you'll ned to download it again rom the App Store. Because you've already paid for it once though, you won't need to do it again. > > In response to your second, by default, the Mailboxes table is hidden. Use Command+Shift + M to bring it up. > HTH > T :) > James > On 21 Jul 2011, at 16:43, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> Hi James and all. >> >> I forgot to backup the application before installing it. The reason I did this is because the installer came straight up on my screen. Is there any other way I can get the files again, e.g redownloading it and copying the files? >> Another question I have is this: I cannot find where to get to the list of mailboxes, e.g inbox, trash, etc. Where does one find this? >> Hope anyone can help. >> Lewis. :) >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:07, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> You can burn a DVD or USB Flash Drive of the installer. There are plenty of articles on Google, and there is also one on mac-Access.net, but I can't remember the exact address. You'll find it though if you go to mac-access.net >>> >>> TC :) >>> James >>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 08:52, krystal watson wrote: >>> >>>> i do know what you mean it would be cool to get a dvd of it but hey i guess times are changing and we just have to deal with it i guess >>>> On 21/07/2011, at 5:25 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Listers >>>>> My OS X Lion item in the dock is now showing 'paused' after several hours of download. Is there a way of restarting this or removing from the dock and re-downloading? >>>>> Any help welcomed. >>>>> Oh for the days of Snow Leopard when you just bought the DVD. :) >>>>> >>>>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:31, Michael Fridey wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> cheers Michael.i did not want to hear that thanks James.Boy oh boy >>>>>> On 21/07/2011, at 4:29 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Michael >>>>>>> Not as far as I know. It took me just over three hours. When it's done though you'll find the installer in your Applications folder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 07:26, Michael Fridey wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi guys I am down loading os Lion now its in the doc it says its down loading but I can not tell how long it will take. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If i do a shift vo m it says pause or cansle down load. >>>>>>>> So is their a way for me to check how long it will take its been nearly 2 hours so far. >>>>>>>> cheers Michael. >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dlng321.mobile at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 17:44:07 2011 From: dlng321.mobile at gmail.com (Danny Leung) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:44:07 -0400 Subject: Question about upgrade from Leopard 10.5.6 to Lion In-Reply-To: <39224425-E58D-46E4-8CB5-F1179B7E0EB9@googlemail.com> References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au><013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net><61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk><640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net><17A89C35-FCE4-44D3-8E36-6CCB501823F2@googlemail.com> <39224425-E58D-46E4-8CB5-F1179B7E0EB9@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, I am very new in Mac. I hope you don't mind for me to ask the following basic questions. I need guidance in upgrading to Lion. I have an Imac which is running Leopard (10.5.6). Do I need to first upgrade to Snow Leopard (v. 10.6) in order to upgrade to Lion? If I can skip v. 10.6, can I just purchase Lion from App store and download it and install over the current OS? Are there anything that I should be aware or know? I would appreciate it if you can give me detail answers, if possible. Please feel free to email me privately. Many thanks in advance for your help. Danny From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 17:51:22 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:51:22 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver conflicting with Pages since last update Message-ID: <7FBB3C4C-2F14-457A-8B51-2E36175B8550@mac-access.net> Hi folks, Has anyone noticed that since updating IWork 09 with the latest post-Lion update, that when interacting with the "edit area" in Pages, the arrow keys cannot be used for editing and as far as I can tell, editing is not available. All I get is the "bong" sound. I wanted to interact because I wanted to know what font I was using. VoiceOver would not tell me unless I interacted. Has anyone else noticed this? Thanks TC :) james From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jul 21 17:54:34 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 02:54:34 +1000 Subject: VoiceOver conflicting with Pages since last update In-Reply-To: <7FBB3C4C-2F14-457A-8B51-2E36175B8550@mac-access.net> References: <7FBB3C4C-2F14-457A-8B51-2E36175B8550@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0601F956-0695-4C74-943B-BE428CA04A26@internode.on.net> Hi! I don't use Pages on a regular basis but I did notice that an update for Pages was available when I was downloading Lion from the App store this morning, I'm wondering whether the update may fix the problem you're having? It says that it fixes some compatibility issues in the info about the update. On 22/07/2011, at 2:51 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi folks, > > Has anyone noticed that since updating IWork 09 with the latest post-Lion update, that when interacting with the "edit area" in Pages, the arrow keys cannot be used for editing and as far as I can tell, editing is not available. All I get is the "bong" sound. I wanted to interact because I wanted to know what font I was using. VoiceOver would not tell me unless I interacted. > > Has anyone else noticed this? > > Thanks > TC :) > james > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 17:57:12 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:57:12 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver conflicting with Pages since last update In-Reply-To: <0601F956-0695-4C74-943B-BE428CA04A26@internode.on.net> References: <7FBB3C4C-2F14-457A-8B51-2E36175B8550@mac-access.net> <0601F956-0695-4C74-943B-BE428CA04A26@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hi Dane, I've done this already, as I said in the original message, but thanks for the idea TC :) James On 21 Jul 2011, at 17:54, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > I don't use Pages on a regular basis but I did notice that an update for Pages was available when I was downloading Lion from the App store this morning, I'm wondering whether the update may fix the problem you're having? It says that it fixes some compatibility issues in the info about the update. > > > On 22/07/2011, at 2:51 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> Has anyone noticed that since updating IWork 09 with the latest post-Lion update, that when interacting with the "edit area" in Pages, the arrow keys cannot be used for editing and as far as I can tell, editing is not available. All I get is the "bong" sound. I wanted to interact because I wanted to know what font I was using. VoiceOver would not tell me unless I interacted. >> >> Has anyone else noticed this? >> >> Thanks >> TC :) >> james >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 18:16:47 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:16:47 +0100 Subject: Question about upgrade from Leopard 10.5.6 to Lion In-Reply-To: References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au><013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net><61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk><640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net><17A89C35-FCE4-44D3-8E36-6CCB501823F2@googlemail.com> <39224425-E58D-46E4-8CB5-F1179B7E0EB9@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <74BD3B41-80B5-4859-AAFD-FBB676FB397B@mac-access.net> Hello Dan You can purchase Lion but if you're running Leopard I\m not sure how you'll ge to the App store. ion is a full installer, so no worries once you have it. Lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 17:44, Danny Leung wrote: Hi all, I am very new in Mac. I hope you don't mind for me to ask the following basic questions. I need guidance in upgrading to Lion. I have an Imac which is running Leopard (10.5.6). Do I need to first upgrade to Snow Leopard (v. 10.6) in order to upgrade to Lion? If I can skip v. 10.6, can I just purchase Lion from App store and download it and install over the current OS? Are there anything that I should be aware or know? I would appreciate it if you can give me detail answers, if possible. Please feel free to email me privately. Many thanks in advance for your help. Danny <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 18:23:31 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:23:31 +0100 Subject: Fixed - VoiceOver conflicting with Page since last update Message-ID: Hi folks, Thank you to everyone who offered advice. I now seem to have fixed the problem. In the "Navigation" pane of the VoiceOver Utility?I had chosen "First Item in Window" as a Navigation option, as opposed to "Keyboard-focused item". I think my choice must have confused VoiceOver, because I have all the cursors and mouse pointer following each other. TC :) James From lavendar at bell.net Thu Jul 21 18:36:26 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:36:26 -0400 Subject: keyboard question Message-ID: Hi, I was at the apple store yesterday during al the Lion madness and mac book air goings on for my friend to get a new iphone and I found out there are actually drivers for my ergonomic keyboard so I canuse it with my i mac. I got the latest onesand put them on, but now I've got no control and option keys on theright side of the keyboard. The physical keys are there, but they don't work now. obviously, this is frustrating,since I can't do vo commands with the right side, nor can I now use my time apple script with the right option key and t. anybody got any ideas? This is the microsoft intellitype pro keyboard(unfortunately, but it's nice for typing if you've got carpal tunnel). I haven't used it long enough yet to see if other things aren't working as expected. I looked in system prefs to see if there's a place in the keyboard section to tell the mac "this is the right control key", etc, but didn't see anything. Thanks, Caitlyn Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 18:52:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:52:40 -0700 Subject: Question about upgrade from Leopard 10.5.6 to Lion In-Reply-To: <74BD3B41-80B5-4859-AAFD-FBB676FB397B@mac-access.net> References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au><013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net><61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk><640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net><17A89C35-FCE4-44D3-8E36-6CCB501823F2@googlemail.com> <39224425-E58D-46E4-8CB5-F1179B7E0EB9@googlemail.com> <74BD3B41-80B5-4859-AAFD-FBB676FB397B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: There are some articles I saw on how to upgrade from lepherd. I'll try and dig them up if somebody does not beat me to them first lol! On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dan > > You can purchase Lion but if you're running Leopard I\m not sure how you'll ge to the App store. > > ion is a full installer, so no worries once you have it. > > Lynne > > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 17:44, Danny Leung wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am very new in Mac. I hope you don't mind for me to ask the following > basic questions. I need guidance in upgrading to Lion. > > I have an Imac which is running Leopard (10.5.6). Do I need to first upgrade > to Snow Leopard (v. 10.6) in order to upgrade to Lion? If I can skip v. > 10.6, can I just purchase Lion from App store and download it and install > over the current OS? Are there anything that I should be aware or know? > > I would appreciate it if you can give me detail answers, if possible. Please > feel free to email me privately. Many thanks in advance for your help. > > Danny > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From support at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 19:28:11 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:28:11 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <22C6BAF2-3453-413D-A998-DF79D56955DB@mac-access.net> Hello everybody It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Julie Adkins to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. 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For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jul 21 20:01:47 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:01:47 +0100 Subject: accessing the menu bar Message-ID: <6CCAD480-DDCA-4E53-BBD7-328B7CF1E975@computing.dcu.ie> Hi all, I just noticed something. Hs the ctrl-f2 key combination disappeared? It doesn't seem to bring me to the menu bar any more. D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Jul 21 20:08:47 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:08:47 +0200 Subject: accessing the menu bar In-Reply-To: <6CCAD480-DDCA-4E53-BBD7-328B7CF1E975@computing.dcu.ie> References: <6CCAD480-DDCA-4E53-BBD7-328B7CF1E975@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello D?nal, The Ctrl-F2 works for me, except in Pages, but that's nothing new. Cheers, Anne On 21 Jul 2011, at 21:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi all, > > I just noticed something. Hs the ctrl-f2 key combination disappeared? It doesn't seem to bring me to the menu bar any more. > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jul 21 20:12:11 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:12:11 +0100 Subject: accessing the menu bar In-Reply-To: References: <6CCAD480-DDCA-4E53-BBD7-328B7CF1E975@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <6711BF24-7E84-4B60-99FC-563C66890A09@computing.dcu.ie> Apologies Anne, I omitted the fact that I'm running Lion. The SL partition is still performing fine. D?nal On 21 Jul 2011, at 20:08, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello D?nal, > > The Ctrl-F2 works for me, except in Pages, but that's nothing new. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 21:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I just noticed something. Hs the ctrl-f2 key combination disappeared? It doesn't seem to bring me to the menu bar any more. >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 20:14:10 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:14:10 +0100 Subject: using lion Message-ID: <0A42FFBC-3D24-4FAC-BFC8-DCFB1F1C1E77@gmail.com> hi the ebook for using lion is here http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/lion-using obviously the gestures won't apply to us of course using oviceover don't think we have new ones, or do we? From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 20:23:47 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:23:47 +0100 Subject: accessing the menu bar In-Reply-To: <6CCAD480-DDCA-4E53-BBD7-328B7CF1E975@computing.dcu.ie> References: <6CCAD480-DDCA-4E53-BBD7-328B7CF1E975@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <93621F5E-5965-413C-91FF-00E3A6584615@mac-access.net> On 21 Jul 2011, at 20:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, I just noticed something. Hs the ctrl-f2 key combination disappeared? It doesn't seem to bring me to the menu bar any more. It works fine here Donal. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 20:25:58 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:25:58 +0100 Subject: using lion In-Reply-To: <0A42FFBC-3D24-4FAC-BFC8-DCFB1F1C1E77@gmail.com> References: <0A42FFBC-3D24-4FAC-BFC8-DCFB1F1C1E77@gmail.com> Message-ID: This book will be on discount shortly. Lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 20:14, william lomas wrote: hi the ebook for using lion is here http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/lion-using obviously the gestures won't apply to us of course using oviceover don't think we have new ones, or do we? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jul 21 20:34:11 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:34:11 +0100 Subject: accessing the menu bar In-Reply-To: <93621F5E-5965-413C-91FF-00E3A6584615@mac-access.net> References: <6CCAD480-DDCA-4E53-BBD7-328B7CF1E975@computing.dcu.ie> <93621F5E-5965-413C-91FF-00E3A6584615@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8CDDA4DD-90A4-45A0-8858-9885CD328A12@computing.dcu.ie> Thanks Lynne, I've just restarted and it's come back? NO idea what's going on there. On 21 Jul 2011, at 20:23, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 20:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just noticed something. Hs the ctrl-f2 key combination disappeared? It doesn't seem to bring me to the menu bar any more. > > It works fine here Donal. > > Lynne > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Jul 21 20:35:11 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:35:11 +0100 Subject: accessing the menu bar In-Reply-To: <6CCAD480-DDCA-4E53-BBD7-328B7CF1E975@computing.dcu.ie> References: <6CCAD480-DDCA-4E53-BBD7-328B7CF1E975@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <2738E723-A55F-4C2A-8920-8A34FDF97990@hopewell.org.uk> Hello Donald, this (control+F2 not always accessing the menu bar on Lion) happens to me from time to time. Also Control+Option+M sometimes fails to work. However I have a track pad and doing a two finger double tap at the top of the track pad always displays the menu bar. Paul Hopewell From support at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 21:07:50 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:07:50 +0100 Subject: Tae Control of Using Lion Message-ID: <5BE8248F-BFFD-4FBC-B8E1-49C5C5DFF101@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Those of you who bought this book from us will be pleased to know that it is now in your bookshelves in PDF format. The ePub version will follow early tomorrow. You don't owe anything; just come and download the book. Those of you who are interested but haven't bout t this yet, you're welcome to do so. Those of you who bought directly from TC, you obviously have money to burn. :) Just joking; it's entirely your decision. But the book is he rte now. Lynne From skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 21:28:05 2011 From: skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com (Kliph&Sharrie) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:28:05 -0500 Subject: Take Control of Using Lion Message-ID: <021001cc47e4$b303ad60$190b0820$@gmail.com> Where do we go to get it, and what's the cost? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians Sent From my Imac -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon & Lynne Smith Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:08 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Tae Control of Using Lion Hello everybody Those of you who bought this book from us will be pleased to know that it is now in your bookshelves in PDF format. The ePub version will follow early tomorrow. You don't owe anything; just come and download the book. Those of you who are interested but haven't bout t this yet, you're welcome to do so. Those of you who bought directly from TC, you obviously have money to burn. :) Just joking; it's entirely your decision. But the book is he rte now. Lynne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Thu Jul 21 21:44:54 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:44:54 -0300 Subject: Tae Control of Using Lion In-Reply-To: <5BE8248F-BFFD-4FBC-B8E1-49C5C5DFF101@mac-access.net> References: <5BE8248F-BFFD-4FBC-B8E1-49C5C5DFF101@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Lynn: I would like to snag a copy of that book please? Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon & Lynne Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 5:07 PM Subject: Tae Control of Using Lion > Hello everybody > > Those of you who bought this book from us will be pleased to know that it > is now in your bookshelves in PDF format. The ePub version will follow > early tomorrow. > > You don't owe anything; just come and download the book. Those of you who > are interested but haven't bout t this yet, you're welcome to do so. Those > of you who bought directly from TC, you obviously have money to burn. :) > > Just joking; it's entirely your decision. But the book is he rte now. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6314 (20110721) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6314 (20110721) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From khwicca at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 22:04:24 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:04:24 -0400 Subject: Take Control of Using Lion In-Reply-To: <021001cc47e4$b303ad60$190b0820$@gmail.com> References: <021001cc47e4$b303ad60$190b0820$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I keep hearing about the take control books,but have never known quite how to get them. Kristeen n Jul 21, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Where do we go to get it, and what's the cost? > > Kliphton SR > (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com > (Marriage group) http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians > Sent From my Imac > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon & Lynne Smith > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:08 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Tae Control of Using Lion > > Hello everybody > > Those of you who bought this book from us will be pleased to know that it is > now in your bookshelves in PDF format. The ePub version will follow early > tomorrow. > > You don't owe anything; just come and download the book. Those of you who > are interested but haven't bout t this yet, you're welcome to do so. Those > of you who bought directly from TC, you obviously have money to burn. :) > > Just joking; it's entirely your decision. But the book is he rte now. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jul 21 22:13:15 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:13:15 +0100 Subject: Tae Control of Using Lion In-Reply-To: <5BE8248F-BFFD-4FBC-B8E1-49C5C5DFF101@mac-access.net> References: <5BE8248F-BFFD-4FBC-B8E1-49C5C5DFF101@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0A490836-860C-4F42-A83B-E1ECB0CACBDB@blueyonder.co.uk> lynne, Could you bang a paypal request over to this account so I can purchase this too please? Thanks PS It is nice to hear your voice as a female now instead of you always sounding like Alex :p On 21 Jul 2011, at 21:07, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Those of you who bought this book from us will be pleased to know that it is now in your bookshelves in PDF format. The ePub version will follow early tomorrow. > > You don't owe anything; just come and download the book. Those of you who are interested but haven't bout t this yet, you're welcome to do so. Those of you who bought directly from TC, you obviously have money to burn. :) > > Just joking; it's entirely your decision. But the book is he rte now. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dlng321.mobile at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 22:13:30 2011 From: dlng321.mobile at gmail.com (Danny Leung) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:13:30 -0400 Subject: Question about upgrade from Leopard 10.5.6 to Lion In-Reply-To: References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au><013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net><61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk><640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net><17A89C35-FCE4-44D3-8E36-6CCB501823F2@googlemail.com><39224425-E58D-46E4-8CB5-F1179B7E0EB9@googlemail.com><74BD3B41-80B5-4859-AAFD-FBB676FB397B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Sarah, Thanks for your help. If you found them, please email me privately. Thanks! Danny -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:53 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Question about upgrade from Leopard 10.5.6 to Lion There are some articles I saw on how to upgrade from lepherd. I'll try and dig them up if somebody does not beat me to them first lol! On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dan > > You can purchase Lion but if you're running Leopard I\m not sure how you'll ge to the App store. > > ion is a full installer, so no worries once you have it. > > Lynne > > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 17:44, Danny Leung wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am very new in Mac. I hope you don't mind for me to ask the > following basic questions. I need guidance in upgrading to Lion. > > I have an Imac which is running Leopard (10.5.6). Do I need to first > upgrade to Snow Leopard (v. 10.6) in order to upgrade to Lion? If I can skip v. > 10.6, can I just purchase Lion from App store and download it and > install over the current OS? Are there anything that I should be aware or know? > > I would appreciate it if you can give me detail answers, if possible. > Please feel free to email me privately. Many thanks in advance for your help. > > Danny > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From dlng321.mobile at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 22:14:45 2011 From: dlng321.mobile at gmail.com (Danny Leung) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:14:45 -0400 Subject: Question about upgrade from Leopard 10.5.6 to Lion In-Reply-To: <74BD3B41-80B5-4859-AAFD-FBB676FB397B@mac-access.net> References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au><013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net><61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk><640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net><17A89C35-FCE4-44D3-8E36-6CCB501823F2@googlemail.com><39224425-E58D-46E4-8CB5-F1179B7E0EB9@googlemail.com> <74BD3B41-80B5-4859-AAFD-FBB676FB397B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <81ADB63C430B493B9BB412FF57B832A8@HP> Lynne, Thanks for the respond. I need to learn how to purchase / download the program from my Mac. Can this be done from my Windows machine? Danny -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:17 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Question about upgrade from Leopard 10.5.6 to Lion Hello Dan You can purchase Lion but if you're running Leopard I\m not sure how you'll ge to the App store. ion is a full installer, so no worries once you have it. Lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 17:44, Danny Leung wrote: Hi all, I am very new in Mac. I hope you don't mind for me to ask the following basic questions. I need guidance in upgrading to Lion. I have an Imac which is running Leopard (10.5.6). Do I need to first upgrade to Snow Leopard (v. 10.6) in order to upgrade to Lion? If I can skip v. 10.6, can I just purchase Lion from App store and download it and install over the current OS? Are there anything that I should be aware or know? I would appreciate it if you can give me detail answers, if possible. Please feel free to email me privately. Many thanks in advance for your help. Danny <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 22:15:49 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:15:49 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Using Lion In-Reply-To: <021001cc47e4$b303ad60$190b0820$@gmail.com> References: <021001cc47e4$b303ad60$190b0820$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Contact the support address and we'll let you know the score. Lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 21:28, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: Where do we go to get it, and what's the cost? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians Sent From my Imac -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon & Lynne Smith Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:08 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Tae Control of Using Lion Hello everybody Those of you who bought this book from us will be pleased to know that it is now in your bookshelves in PDF format. The ePub version will follow early tomorrow. You don't owe anything; just come and download the book. Those of you who are interested but haven't bout t this yet, you're welcome to do so. Those of you who bought directly from TC, you obviously have money to burn. :) Just joking; it's entirely your decision. But the book is he rte now. Lynne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 22:17:41 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:17:41 +0100 Subject: Tae Control of Using Lion In-Reply-To: References: <5BE8248F-BFFD-4FBC-B8E1-49C5C5DFF101@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <981E2A22-3F7C-4AA7-AA91-F548460B6A7E@mac-access.net> Jom For completeness, please use the support address. We don't take requests on the list. There are good reasons for that. lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 21:44, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Lynn: I would like to snag a copy of that book please? Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon & Lynne Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 5:07 PM Subject: Tae Control of Using Lion > Hello everybody > > Those of you who bought this book from us will be pleased to know that it is now in your bookshelves in PDF format. The ePub version will follow early tomorrow. > > You don't owe anything; just come and download the book. Those of you who are interested but haven't bout t this yet, you're welcome to do so. Those of you who bought directly from TC, you obviously have money to burn. :) > > Just joking; it's entirely your decision. But the book is he rte now. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6314 (20110721) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6314 (20110721) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 22:18:22 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:18:22 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Using Lion In-Reply-To: References: <021001cc47e4$b303ad60$190b0820$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Again, contact us off list. On 21 Jul 2011, at 22:04, Kristeen Hughes wrote: I keep hearing about the take control books,but have never known quite how to get them. Kristeen n Jul 21, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Where do we go to get it, and what's the cost? > > Kliphton SR > (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com > (Marriage group) http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians > Sent From my Imac > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon & Lynne Smith > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:08 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Tae Control of Using Lion > > Hello everybody > > Those of you who bought this book from us will be pleased to know that it is > now in your bookshelves in PDF format. The ePub version will follow early > tomorrow. > > You don't owe anything; just come and download the book. Those of you who > are interested but haven't bout t this yet, you're welcome to do so. Those > of you who bought directly from TC, you obviously have money to burn. :) > > Just joking; it's entirely your decision. But the book is he rte now. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Thu Jul 21 22:31:05 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:31:05 -0300 Subject: Strange message on the boot up screen after installing Lion. Message-ID: Hi Gang: After installing Lion on two computers, both display a message on the boot up screen which sounds like: "Com Apple Doc Extra" Does anyone know what this means? Thanks gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6314 (20110721) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From opensesame at me.com Thu Jul 21 22:37:02 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:37:02 -0400 Subject: Is anyone having success with Lion's new method of typing special characters? Message-ID: <2813C8BA-BDF8-45EE-AF0A-6F66C1615549@me.com> Hi All, When typing in Lion you can hold down a letter for just a second or two and it will pop up a list of alternate versions of that letter, such as the various accented characters. However, I can only seem to make VO read either the first or last character in the popup list. I've tried all the methods I can think of to navigate the list: Interact, VO+Shift+J, VO left, right, up, down and inside-out, but none of them are doing the trick. I know other letters are there. If I right arrow a different number of times before pressing Return, I get a different character with each different number of arrow presses. For example, my Mac is set to US English and I'm typing on a US English keyboard and when I press and hold the letter "A" for a second it will silently popup a list of alternate versions of the letter "A" and if I press right arrow once VO will announce "?" (a grave). If I continue to arrow right I will hear nothing more, but if I press Return after my second right arrow it will insert "?" (A acute). Has anybody had success with this feature? I've recently learned the other methods of inserting characters -- with help from Anne R and Esther -- but I was thinking this would be a pretty nice addition to the input methods. Any thoughts much appreciated, Cheers, Bryan From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jul 21 22:47:51 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:47:51 +0100 Subject: XLD query Message-ID: HI all, I'm only getting around to playing with XLD now. I'm noticing that when ripping a CD, the progress dialog appears. This contains a table which seems to have a row for each track. However, this appears (when using VO) to be blank. Does anyone know what's actually in there? D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moriond at mac.com Thu Jul 21 23:12:32 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:12:32 -1000 Subject: Question about upgrade from Leopard 10.5.6 to Lion In-Reply-To: <81ADB63C430B493B9BB412FF57B832A8@HP> References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> <61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk> <640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net> <17A89C35-FCE4-44D3-8E36-6CCB501823F2@googlemail.com> <39224425-E58D-46E4-8CB5-F1179B7E0EB9@googlemail.com> <74BD3B41-80B5-4859-AAFD-FBB676FB397B@mac-access.net> <81ADB63C430B493B9BB412FF57B832A8@HP> Message-ID: Hi Danny, As Lynne stated, what's new about Lion is that it's being distributed from the Mac App Store. This is a separate application that gets installed into your dock when users who have Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) performed a software update. When you launch it, it's similar to using the App Store in iTunes, except that it is a separate application that lets you install free or paid Mac software instead of iOS software. So you can't purchase or download this from your Windows machine. On the other hand, once you have upgraded to Snow Leopard, you'll automatically have the App Store in your dock, along with all the regular Mac applications, once you have performed all the system software updates. The reason that people need to have Snow Leopard to install Lion is because it's being distributed through the Mac App Store, and the Mac App Store only automatically gets installed if you have Snow Leopard. Alternatively, you're supposed to be able to purchase an installation of Lion on a USB drive for something like $69 in August. Hope this makes sense. You should check that you are running the latest version of Leopard, before you update to Snow Leopard. This information is available from the "Apple" menu on the menu bar. Press either VO-M (i.e., hold down the Control+Option+m keys) then arrow down to "About this Mac" and VO-Space. If you navigate (VO+right or left arrow) you can read which operating system is currently installed. Pressing the button (VO-Space) on the version will cycle you through your product build (coded identification that tells when your machine was built), and your serial number. You can use VO-Shift-C to copy the last phrase to pasteboard, and then you can paste the information with Command-V. If you're up to date with Leopard, you should be running version 10.5.8. There is also a "software update" button on the "About" screen, although you'll probably choose the "Software update" option directly in the Apple menu under most cases. If you are at 10.5.8, you might want to run a software update to make sure you have all current updates before proceeding to Snow Leopard. When you update to Snow Leopard, you might want to separately get a "Combo Update" if there is a large system version jump. It's also a good idea to do some housekeeping maintenance just before and after a major software update. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:14, Danny Leung wrote: > Lynne, > > Thanks for the respond. I need to learn how to purchase / download the > program from my Mac. Can this be done from my Windows machine? > > Danny > From krbarry at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 23:21:46 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:21:46 -0400 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> References: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4e28a688.c487e50a.226d.508c@mx.google.com> Well, actually, I mentioned this on this very list last week or late the week before. And, as all knew Lion was coming very soon it was widely thought that new hardware was coming with it. I believe when spending a sum sufficiently large one needs to do at least a little research beforehand. Kevin At 07:14 AM 7/21/2011, you wrote: >Hello Kevin > >With all due respect, I think you're totally missing the point, as did Dane. > >This may have been known to you. But not everybody has the time or >the resources to spend looking around rumour sites. But even were it >known that it was going to happen soon, Apple should have offered us >the opportunity to buy the updated model. > >Lynne > >On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:23, Kevin Barry wrote: > >This really shouldn't have been much of a surprise. >It has been known for a while, to some degree of certainty, that >the Minis were getting a refresh this summer. >I am thinking of getting a mini server to use mostly as a personal >machine due to the quad core processor. ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 23:22:19 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:22:19 -0400 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: References: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4e28a6a9.8c07e50a.2eb7.4c2b@mx.google.com> The server is an I7. At 08:23 AM 7/21/2011, you wrote: >Hi Lynne, > >In answer to your question re the Core 2 Duo vs the Core i5 in the new >Mac Mini server, I'd expect a significant performance upgrade. These >new Core i5 and i7 CPUs are a full 2 generations beyond the Core 2 Duo >and benchmarks show them slaughtering the older Duos. > >The i5 in the server Mac Mini is quad core whereas the i5 and i7 >options in the non-server Minis have 2 physical and 2 hyperthreaded >cores. But either way when compared to the Duo you are getting a much >better architecture, more cores, larger cache and better memory >bandwidth. > >I've been holding fire on a Mac purchase until these new updates hit >and if you can RMA or otherwise get the newer Mini model then I >suspect you'd absolutely see the benefit -- especially in a 24/7 >server box. > >Garry > >On 7/21/11, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > > Hello Kevin > > > > With all due respect, I think you're totally missing the point, > as did Dane. > > > > This may have been known to you. But not everybody has the time or the > > resources to spend looking around rumour sites. But even were it known that > > it was going to happen soon, Apple should have offered us the > opportunity to > > buy the updated model. > > > > Lynne > > > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:23, Kevin Barry wrote: > > > > This really shouldn't have been much of a surprise. > > It has been known for a while, to some degree of certainty, that the Minis > > were getting a refresh this summer. > > I am thinking of getting a mini server to use mostly as a personal machine > > due to the quad core processor. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > > and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > > the list website at: > > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 23:50:52 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:50:52 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Using Lion Message-ID: <82C9C804-8D83-44DF-B511-C1F59BED06A8@mac-access.net> Hello everybody; particularly those who are our Take Control clients. I'm very pleased to be able to tell you that all those people who pre-ordered the TC books on Lion, the books are now up in your bookshelf in PDF and ePub formats. There is no Mobi version available as yet; but I doubt too many on list will worry about that. Those who have expressed a wish to buy these books, I'll try to get to you as quickly as possible. Those who already have bought it, if I have missed of your bookshelf, please do let me know. I'm aware that there are a couple of requests pending, well actually it's more like 10 requests now I come to look at the mailbox. I will try to accommodate your wishes as soon as I can; but it's late here, so I hope you'll understand if we cannot fulfil your order until tomorrow. I'll do my best. Lynne From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Jul 21 23:48:07 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:48:07 +0200 Subject: Is anyone having success with Lion's new method of typing special characters? In-Reply-To: <2813C8BA-BDF8-45EE-AF0A-6F66C1615549@me.com> References: <2813C8BA-BDF8-45EE-AF0A-6F66C1615549@me.com> Message-ID: Hello Bryan, Well spotted! I find that I just have to take my time pressing Right Arrow and all the accents are spoken. Cheers, Anne On 21 Jul 2011, at 23:37, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi All, > > When typing in Lion you can hold down a letter for just a second or two and it will pop up a list of alternate versions of that letter, such as the various accented characters. However, I can only seem to make VO read either the first or last character in the popup list. I've tried all the methods I can think of to navigate the list: Interact, VO+Shift+J, VO left, right, up, down and inside-out, but none of them are doing the trick. I know other letters are there. If I right arrow a different number of times before pressing Return, I get a different character with each different number of arrow presses. > > For example, my Mac is set to US English and I'm typing on a US English keyboard and when I press and hold the letter "A" for a second it will silently popup a list of alternate versions of the letter "A" and if I press right arrow once VO will announce "?" (a grave). If I continue to arrow right I will hear nothing more, but if I press Return after my second right arrow it will insert "?" (A acute). > > Has anybody had success with this feature? I've recently learned the other methods of inserting characters -- with help from Anne R and Esther -- but I was thinking this would be a pretty nice addition to the input methods. > > Any thoughts much appreciated, > Cheers, > Bryan > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jul 21 23:56:52 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:56:52 +0100 Subject: XLD query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <28D4C4F7-D9A1-45A3-B666-34587701C9DE@mac-access.net> Hello Donal When you have XLD set to automatically get the CDDA data from the databases that progress dialogue is populated. But I don't think the contents are exposed to VoiceOver. Lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 22:47, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: HI all, I'm only getting around to playing with XLD now. I'm noticing that when ripping a CD, the progress dialog appears. This contains a table which seems to have a row for each track. However, this appears (when using VO) to be blank. Does anyone know what's actually in there? D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 00:05:09 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:05:09 +0100 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <4e28a688.c487e50a.226d.508c@mx.google.com> References: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> <4e28a688.c487e50a.226d.508c@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <2EB34190-0361-4B20-B627-7CCD889F5660@mac-access.net> Hello Kevin You did mention this; but, with all due respect, I don't take much notice of rumour where Apple is concerned. Apple has a policy of non-disclosure and it wouldn't be the first time for so-called solid rumour to turn out totally wrong. Of course we knew Lion was coming; But all this is beside the point. Apple should have warned potential customers of an update which was so imminent as this one was. You can disagree as much as you like, that's your prerogative. Lynne On 21 Jul 2011, at 23:21, Kevin Barry wrote: Well, actually, I mentioned this on this very list last week or late the week before. And, as all knew Lion was coming very soon it was widely thought that new hardware was coming with it. I believe when spending a sum sufficiently large one needs to do at least a little research beforehand. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Jul 22 00:18:44 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:18:44 +0100 Subject: XLD query In-Reply-To: <28D4C4F7-D9A1-45A3-B666-34587701C9DE@mac-access.net> References: <28D4C4F7-D9A1-45A3-B666-34587701C9DE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <06F92A49-9B71-4A30-97F4-CDA4C9542714@computing.dcu.ie> Thank you Lynne. On 21 Jul 2011, at 23:56, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Donal > > When you have XLD set to automatically get the CDDA data from the databases that progress dialogue is populated. But I don't think the contents are exposed to VoiceOver. > > Lynne > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 22:47, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > HI all, > > I'm only getting around to playing with XLD now. I'm noticing that when ripping a CD, the progress dialog appears. This contains a table which seems to have a row for each track. However, this appears (when using VO) to be blank. Does anyone know what's actually in there? > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From krbarry at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 00:28:11 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:28:11 -0400 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <2EB34190-0361-4B20-B627-7CCD889F5660@mac-access.net> References: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> <4e28a688.c487e50a.226d.508c@mx.google.com> <2EB34190-0361-4B20-B627-7CCD889F5660@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4e28b660.4787e50a.442c.5650@mx.google.com> Perhaps Apple should have warned you. But they didn't and I think typically they don't. Still, best to call them and ask, nicely if you can, if there is anything they can do for you. Kevin At 07:05 PM 7/21/2011, you wrote: >Hello Kevin > >You did mention this; but, with all due respect, I don't take much >notice of rumour where Apple is concerned. Apple has a policy of >non-disclosure and it wouldn't be the first time for so-called solid >rumour to turn out totally wrong. > >Of course we knew Lion was coming; But all this is beside the point. >Apple should have warned potential customers of an update which was >so imminent as this one was. You can disagree as much as you like, >that's your prerogative. > >Lynne > >On 21 Jul 2011, at 23:21, Kevin Barry wrote: > >Well, actually, I mentioned this on this very list last week or late >the week before. >And, as all knew Lion was coming very soon it was widely thought >that new hardware was coming with it. >I believe when spending a sum sufficiently large one needs to do at >least a little research beforehand. ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Jul 22 00:32:35 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:32:35 -1000 Subject: What's new in Lion podcasts from Vision Australia Message-ID: Hi all, For those of you wanting to sample a number of podcasts demonstrating new features and new voices in Lion for VoiceOver users, there are a nice set of podcasts that Vision Australia has released. You can subscribe to the series through iTunes: ? Apple and Other Accessible technology By David Woodbridge http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-accessibility/id423121261 or you can go to the PodBean web site: http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/ or check out the RSS feed and download the individual episodes: feed://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/feed/ If you're using an iOS app like Podcaster, you can go to the "Directory" button (4th of 5) on the bottom of the main screen, double tap, then on the "Podcast Directory" screen navigate to "Import" and double tap. In the text field type or paste in the above RSS feed address (remembering to delete the initial "http://"). Titles of episodes: ? What Is New In Lion And VoiceOver ? Using Launchpad in Lion With VoiceOver ? Using Mission Control In Lion with VoiceOver ? Lion Premium Voices demo - Man From Snowy River ? Downloading Premium Voices for VoiceOver In Lion ? Lion system volume and VoiceOver volume ? Using VoiceOver Activities in Lion ? Letter navigation in Lion Safari with VoiceOver ? Lion Premium english voices demo HTH. Cheers, Esther From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 01:15:42 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:15:42 -0700 Subject: What's new in Lion podcasts from Vision Australia In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OOO! Thanks for this. I have my first impressions podcast done buti need to edit as I had lunch and left the recorder running while I went to eat. lol! I'm liking lion. Mail is a bit slow but I will check this out. Maybe I can learn a thing or 2 and demo it in my own style. Again, thanks for this. On Jul 21, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi all, > > For those of you wanting to sample a number of podcasts demonstrating new features and new voices in Lion for VoiceOver users, there are a nice set of podcasts that Vision Australia has released. You can subscribe to the series through iTunes: > ? Apple and Other Accessible technology By David Woodbridge > http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-accessibility/id423121261 > or you can go to the PodBean web site: > http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/ > or check out the RSS feed and download the individual episodes: > feed://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/feed/ > > If you're using an iOS app like Podcaster, you can go to the "Directory" button (4th of 5) on the bottom of the main screen, double tap, then on the "Podcast Directory" screen navigate to "Import" and double tap. In the text field type or paste in the above RSS feed address (remembering to delete the initial "http://"). > > Titles of episodes: > ? What Is New In Lion And VoiceOver > ? Using Launchpad in Lion With VoiceOver > ? Using Mission Control In Lion with VoiceOver > ? Lion Premium Voices demo - Man From Snowy River > ? Downloading Premium Voices for VoiceOver In Lion > ? Lion system volume and VoiceOver volume > ? Using VoiceOver Activities in Lion > ? Letter navigation in Lion Safari with VoiceOver > ? Lion Premium english voices demo > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 01:21:03 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:21:03 +0100 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <4e28b660.4787e50a.442c.5650@mx.google.com> References: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> <4e28a688.c487e50a.226d.508c@mx.google.com> <2EB34190-0361-4B20-B627-7CCD889F5660@mac-access.net> <4e28b660.4787e50a.442c.5650@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello Kevin On 22 Jul 2011, at 00:28, Kevin Barry wrote: ? Perhaps Apple should have warned you. But they didn't and I think typically they don't. Still, best to call them and ask, nicely if you can, if there is anything they can do for you. I have no intention of being nasty or unpleasant towards them. :) I fully appreciate that they are there to sell hardware and software. But I do definitely think that they should have said something on this occasion, knowing that there was an imminent change. I also wish they had email addresses as they used too. I'll have to call them tomorrow; although I'm not optimistic. We've had this machine since 14 July. It wasn't until I asked Gordon that I became aware of the date we bought it. Ah well, one can only try. The problem is that I'd probably have to pay for two-way transport so that's put pay to the saving. Also it would mean we're without the machine for some time. And, of course, we would need to re-install the software as it was when we got it in order to remove our personal data from the machine. H'mmm, I wonder if it's worth the hassle. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 01:45:17 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:45:17 -0700 Subject: XLD query In-Reply-To: <28D4C4F7-D9A1-45A3-B666-34587701C9DE@mac-access.net> References: <28D4C4F7-D9A1-45A3-B666-34587701C9DE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8A3E2882-1CBF-4AE9-A7E7-911D42B2DE37@gmail.com> They are not and I talked to the dev and since he can't speak or understand english it was hard to get across to him what I wanted to have fixed. the unlabeled button in the tool bar and the unread progress stuff. Good luck in contacting the dev if you can. On Jul 21, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Donal > > When you have XLD set to automatically get the CDDA data from the databases that progress dialogue is populated. But I don't think the contents are exposed to VoiceOver. > > Lynne > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 22:47, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > HI all, > > I'm only getting around to playing with XLD now. I'm noticing that when ripping a CD, the progress dialog appears. This contains a table which seems to have a row for each track. However, this appears (when using VO) to be blank. Does anyone know what's actually in there? > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From orin8722 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 01:57:04 2011 From: orin8722 at gmail.com (Orin) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:57:04 -0400 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Network_connectivity_problems_on_Mac_only=3F=85?= Message-ID: <4A1EE3C6-29B4-4B7C-B511-75406B627449@gmail.com> Hey all, Just was curious if anyone would know why on iOS on my iPod, Skype works like a charm and on the Mac, I have connectivity problems where it's pretty impossible to talk to anyone? I think this started around last week, although I can't exactly remember. Comcast came out and installed a new modem although that didn't seem to help out much. But on iOS, connected to the same network I believe, the connection is great. Thanks for any help anyone can give on this matter. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 From krbarry at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 01:57:11 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:57:11 -0400 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: References: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> <4e28a688.c487e50a.226d.508c@mx.google.com> <2EB34190-0361-4B20-B627-7CCD889F5660@mac-access.net> <4e28b660.4787e50a.442c.5650@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4e28ceca.8c07e50a.3fe5.5432@mx.google.com> Given the rather significant stepup in hardware I'd say it would be worth the hassle. And, it will come with Lion on it. Kevin At 08:21 PM 7/21/2011, you wrote: >Hello Kevin > >On 22 Jul 2011, at 00:28, Kevin Barry wrote: > >? Perhaps Apple should have warned you. >But they didn't and I think typically they don't. >Still, best to call them and ask, nicely if you >can, if there is anything they can do for you. > >I have no intention of being nasty or unpleasant >towards them. :) I fully appreciate that they >are there to sell hardware and software. But I >do definitely think that they should have said >something on this occasion, knowing that there was an imminent change. > >I also wish they had email addresses as they >used too. I'll have to call them tomorrow; >although I'm not optimistic. We've had this >machine since 14 July. It wasn't until I asked >Gordon that I became aware of the date we bought it. > >Ah well, one can only try. The problem is that >I'd probably have to pay for two-way transport >so that's put pay to the saving. Also it would >mean we're without the machine for some time. >And, of course, we would need to re-install the >software as it was when we got it in order to >remove our personal data from the machine. > >H'mmm, I wonder if it's worth the hassle. > >Lynne > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your >message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all >messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed >malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership >options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 02:34:54 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 02:34:54 +0100 Subject: XLD query In-Reply-To: <8A3E2882-1CBF-4AE9-A7E7-911D42B2DE37@gmail.com> References: <28D4C4F7-D9A1-45A3-B666-34587701C9DE@mac-access.net> <8A3E2882-1CBF-4AE9-A7E7-911D42B2DE37@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Sarah You are aware, aren't you, that you have the facility to label buttons with VoiceOver yourself? On 22 Jul 2011, at 01:45, Sarah Alawami wrote: They are not and I talked to the dev and since he can't speak or understand english it was hard to get across to him what I wanted to have fixed. the unlabeled button in the tool bar and the unread progress stuff. From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 02:40:18 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 02:40:18 +0100 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_Network_connectivity_problems_on_Mac_only?= =?windows-1252?Q?=3F=85?= In-Reply-To: <4A1EE3C6-29B4-4B7C-B511-75406B627449@gmail.com> References: <4A1EE3C6-29B4-4B7C-B511-75406B627449@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Sounds like you have a port problem. You don't usually need to open ports on your router for Skype. But we've seen one situation in the past where it simply wouldn't work until the port forwarding was enabled. Of course that mean that you need static internal IPs assigned on your probably NAT system. If you're using DHCP, some routers will let you forward by Mac address. This is only a guess; but it' a place to start. Lynne On 22 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Orin wrote: Hey all, Just was curious if anyone would know why on iOS on my iPod, Skype works like a charm and on the Mac, I have connectivity problems where it's pretty impossible to talk to anyone? I think this started around last week, although I can't exactly remember. Comcast came out and installed a new modem although that didn't seem to help out much. But on iOS, connected to the same network I believe, the connection is great. Thanks for any help anyone can give on this matter. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 02:41:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 02:41:40 +0100 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <4e28ceca.8c07e50a.3fe5.5432@mx.google.com> References: <4e27fe1b.0dcadc0a.2659.13dc@mx.google.com> <9F578057-5193-46D4-9A3D-9736A3146A6F@mac-access.net> <4e28a688.c487e50a.226d.508c@mx.google.com> <2EB34190-0361-4B20-B627-7CCD889F5660@mac-access.net> <4e28b660.4787e50a.442c.5650@mx.google.com> <4e28ceca.8c07e50a.3fe5.5432@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5C86037C-6FEC-4377-B236-55591F72E7A7@mac-access.net> I'll call them today I think. Lynne On 22 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Kevin Barry wrote: Given the rather significant stepup in hardware I'd say it would be worth the hassle. And, it will come with Lion on it. Kevin At 08:21 PM 7/21/2011, you wrote: > Hello Kevin > > On 22 Jul 2011, at 00:28, Kevin Barry wrote: > > ? Perhaps Apple should have warned you. > But they didn't and I think typically they don't. > Still, best to call them and ask, nicely if you can, if there is anything they can do for you. > > I have no intention of being nasty or unpleasant towards them. :) I fully appreciate that they are there to sell hardware and software. But I do definitely think that they should have said something on this occasion, knowing that there was an imminent change. > > I also wish they had email addresses as they used too. I'll have to call them tomorrow; although I'm not optimistic. We've had this machine since 14 July. It wasn't until I asked Gordon that I became aware of the date we bought it. > > Ah well, one can only try. The problem is that I'd probably have to pay for two-way transport so that's put pay to the saving. Also it would mean we're without the machine for some time. And, of course, we would need to re-install the software as it was when we got it in order to remove our personal data from the machine. > > H'mmm, I wonder if it's worth the hassle. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 02:44:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:44:58 -0700 Subject: ntfs3g and lion Message-ID: <39FA4A8E-33A9-4B83-B22F-584CFB3E814F@gmail.com> Ok. I am loving lion so far but there's a bit of a problem. I use ntfs3g, the free version and it is not working currently. I got it bundled with macfuse. Will I have to wait until macfuse is updated? or is there a work around for me until macfuse is updated? Thanks. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 02:47:20 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:47:20 -0700 Subject: XLD query In-Reply-To: References: <28D4C4F7-D9A1-45A3-B666-34587701C9DE@mac-access.net> <8A3E2882-1CBF-4AE9-A7E7-911D42B2DE37@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am. but I was trying to communicate with th edev that he should try and label ethe button that way a novis user can access all controls. I'm not that much of a novis user and I know what it is by trial and a lot of error. lol! and half the time the labels don't stick. but that's another stopic for another day. good luck contacting the dev. they could not understand due at all and they bailed apple for there own app problems. I have the threads some ware. Take care all. On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > You are aware, aren't you, that you have the facility to label buttons with VoiceOver yourself? > > > On 22 Jul 2011, at 01:45, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > They are not and I talked to the dev and since he can't speak or understand english it was hard to get across to him what I wanted to have fixed. the unlabeled button in the tool bar and the unread progress stuff. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From cjligon at msn.com Fri Jul 22 03:14:48 2011 From: cjligon at msn.com (Cornell Ligon) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:14:48 -0400 Subject: removing partition Message-ID: Hi All, I had Win XP on my mac mini before it became corrupted. Now, I want to remove the partition all together returning my system to mac only. How do I accomplish this removing all remnants of XP restoring my entire 360 hd for mac? thanks in advance! Best Regards, Cornell From opensesame at me.com Fri Jul 22 03:15:20 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:15:20 -0400 Subject: Is anyone having success with Lion's new method of typing special characters? In-Reply-To: References: <2813C8BA-BDF8-45EE-AF0A-6F66C1615549@me.com> Message-ID: <0B645A51-D068-405E-8787-64A3762470BC@me.com> Hello Anne, Thank you for your response. I spent some more time trying it out and seem to have narrowed my issue down to two specific places. The first is within the body of a new or reply message in Mail.app. Interestingly, the picker works fine in the address and subject lines of mail.app, just not in the body, at least not for me. I tried setting the default text format to both RTF and Text but got the same result. Also, turning spell check off made no difference. Would you mind giving it a try in Mail.app and sharing your findings? The second place I'm having the problem is in all fields of Outlook Web Access, which is the interface used by students and staff at my university to access their Exchange email system. This I will bang on some more as time allows. Meanwhile, I've had good success using this feature in the current versions of Bento, Pages, TextEdit and even within the Spotlight search field. Cheers, Bryan On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Well spotted! I find that I just have to take my time pressing Right Arrow and all the accents are spoken. > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 23:37, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >> When typing in Lion you can hold down a letter for just a second or two and it will pop up a list of alternate versions of that letter, such as the various accented characters. However, I can only seem to make VO read either the first or last character in the popup list. I've tried all the methods I can think of to navigate the list: Interact, VO+Shift+J, VO left, right, up, down and inside-out, but none of them are doing the trick. I know other letters are there. If I right arrow a different number of times before pressing Return, I get a different character with each different number of arrow presses. From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Fri Jul 22 04:47:15 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Loose Canon) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 05:47:15 +0200 Subject: Question about upgrade from Leopard 10.5.6 to Lion In-Reply-To: <81ADB63C430B493B9BB412FF57B832A8@HP> References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au><013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net><61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk><640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net><17A89C35-FCE4-44D3-8E36-6CCB501823F2@googlemail.com><39224425-E58D-46E4-8CB5-F1179B7E0EB9@googlemail.com> <74BD3B41-80B5-4859-AAFD-FBB676FB397B@mac-access.net> <81ADB63C430B493B9BB412FF57B832A8@HP> Message-ID: <64241A36-C3C6-4F92-BAA9-D8E07CF809D2@econetmail.com> Howdy, No. You cann only download Lion from the Mac App Store, which means From a machine running Mac OS 10.66 (which is Snow Leopard). So on a Leopard machine, it is best to upgrade to Snow Leopard first which has the Mac App Store. On a Windows Machine, this is certainly not possible coz the Mac App Store is not available on that platform yet. Otherwise, you can wait for the next month when Lion will be shipped on flash drive for US $70 and do a clean install. Good luck, L.C. On 21 Jul,2011, at 11:14 PM, Danny Leung wrote: > Lynne, > > Thanks for the respond. I need to learn how to purchase / download the > program from my Mac. Can this be done from my Windows machine? > > Danny > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette > Annabel Smith > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:17 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Question about upgrade from Leopard 10.5.6 to Lion > > Hello Dan > > You can purchase Lion but if you're running Leopard I\m not sure how you'll > ge to the App store. > > ion is a full installer, so no worries once you have it. > > Lynne > > > On 21 Jul 2011, at 17:44, Danny Leung wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am very new in Mac. I hope you don't mind for me to ask the following > basic questions. I need guidance in upgrading to Lion. > > I have an Imac which is running Leopard (10.5.6). Do I need to first upgrade > to Snow Leopard (v. 10.6) in order to upgrade to Lion? If I can skip v. > 10.6, can I just purchase Lion from App store and download it and install > over the current OS? Are there anything that I should be aware or know? > > I would appreciate it if you can give me detail answers, if possible. Please > feel free to email me privately. Many thanks in advance for your help. > > Danny > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Fri Jul 22 04:59:54 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Loose Canon) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 05:59:54 +0200 Subject: Question about upgrade from Leopard 10.5.6 to Lion In-Reply-To: References: <7C819402-E881-4FA5-99D7-91DCA7816889@aapt.net.au> <013E2250-994A-4676-B9F6-E111349CF2A5@mac-access.net> <61D8C959-7BDF-49C0-B4B6-8F45576AEAD5@thejazzden.org.uk> <640A4EEC-368C-4CF8-B59B-FD5918E8EFDD@mac-access.net> <17A89C35-FCE4-44D3-8E36-6CCB501823F2@googlemail.com> <39224425-E58D-46E4-8CB5-F1179B7E0EB9@googlemail.com> <74BD3B41-80B5-4859-AAFD-FBB676FB397B@mac-access.net> <81ADB63C430B493B9BB412FF57B832A8@HP> Message-ID: Hi Esther, Sorry I did not see your message before when I chimed in with a suggestion. Hope this does not irritate. Otherwise, your reply is typical of your messages: it is detailed and offers more insight into the problem and addresses related matters. It is worthy for saving as a future reference. I am just wondering if you have some blog or podcast: you rescued me a lot out of the jungle. Perhaps this is off thread anyway. But once again thanks for your help. Cheers, LooseCanon On 22 Jul,2011, at 12:12 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Danny, > > As Lynne stated, what's new about Lion is that it's being distributed from the Mac App Store. This is a separate application that gets installed into your dock when users who have Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) performed a software update. When you launch it, it's similar to using the App Store in iTunes, except that it is a separate application that lets you install free or paid Mac software instead of iOS software. So you can't purchase or download this from your Windows machine. On the other hand, once you have upgraded to Snow Leopard, you'll automatically have the App Store in your dock, along with all the regular Mac applications, once you have performed all the system software updates. > > The reason that people need to have Snow Leopard to install Lion is because it's being distributed through the Mac App Store, and the Mac App Store only automatically gets installed if you have Snow Leopard. Alternatively, you're supposed to be able to purchase an installation of Lion on a USB drive for something like $69 in August. > > Hope this makes sense. You should check that you are running the latest version of Leopard, before you update to Snow Leopard. This information is available from the "Apple" menu on the menu bar. Press either VO-M (i.e., hold down the Control+Option+m keys) then arrow down to "About this Mac" and VO-Space. If you navigate (VO+right or left arrow) you can read which operating system is currently installed. Pressing the button (VO-Space) on the version will cycle you through your product build (coded identification that tells when your machine was built), and your serial number. You can use VO-Shift-C to copy the last phrase to pasteboard, and then you can paste the information with Command-V. If you're up to date with Leopard, you should be running version 10.5.8. > > There is also a "software update" button on the "About" screen, although you'll probably choose the "Software update" option directly in the Apple menu under most cases. If you are at 10.5.8, you might want to run a software update to make sure you have all current updates before proceeding to Snow Leopard. > > When you update to Snow Leopard, you might want to separately get a "Combo Update" if there is a large system version jump. It's also a good idea to do some housekeeping maintenance just before and after a major software update. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:14, Danny Leung wrote: > >> Lynne, >> >> Thanks for the respond. I need to learn how to purchase / download the >> program from my Mac. Can this be done from my Windows machine? >> >> Danny >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 05:19:55 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 05:19:55 +0100 Subject: ntfs3g and lion In-Reply-To: <39FA4A8E-33A9-4B83-B22F-584CFB3E814F@gmail.com> References: <39FA4A8E-33A9-4B83-B22F-584CFB3E814F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah I'd be surprised if it works at all. It's a 32-bit application and they are no longer supported. Gordon On 22 Jul 2011, at 02:44, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ok. I am loving lion so far but there's a bit of a problem. I use ntfs3g, the free version and it is not working currently. I got it bundled with macfuse. Will I have to wait until macfuse is updated? or is there a work around for me until macfuse is updated? Thanks. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 05:21:33 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 05:21:33 +0100 Subject: removing partition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <358F4406-06A1-446B-BFDC-4008E2065E5F@mac-access.net> Use Boot Camp and the method will be obvious. Gordon On 22 Jul 2011, at 03:14, Cornell Ligon wrote: Hi All, I had Win XP on my mac mini before it became corrupted. Now, I want to remove the partition all together returning my system to mac only. How do I accomplish this removing all remnants of XP restoring my entire 360 hd for mac? thanks in advance! Best Regards, Cornell <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 06:09:21 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:09:21 +0100 Subject: What's new in Lion podcasts from Vision Australia In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: i like these podcasts, all should lsiten to them On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:15 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > OOO! Thanks for this. I have my first impressions podcast done buti need to edit as I had lunch and left the recorder running while I went to eat. lol! I'm liking lion. Mail is a bit slow but I will check this out. Maybe I can learn a thing or 2 and demo it in my own style. > > Again, thanks for this. > On Jul 21, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> For those of you wanting to sample a number of podcasts demonstrating new features and new voices in Lion for VoiceOver users, there are a nice set of podcasts that Vision Australia has released. You can subscribe to the series through iTunes: >> ? Apple and Other Accessible technology By David Woodbridge >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-accessibility/id423121261 >> or you can go to the PodBean web site: >> http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/ >> or check out the RSS feed and download the individual episodes: >> feed://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/feed/ >> >> If you're using an iOS app like Podcaster, you can go to the "Directory" button (4th of 5) on the bottom of the main screen, double tap, then on the "Podcast Directory" screen navigate to "Import" and double tap. In the text field type or paste in the above RSS feed address (remembering to delete the initial "http://"). >> >> Titles of episodes: >> ? What Is New In Lion And VoiceOver >> ? Using Launchpad in Lion With VoiceOver >> ? Using Mission Control In Lion with VoiceOver >> ? Lion Premium Voices demo - Man From Snowy River >> ? Downloading Premium Voices for VoiceOver In Lion >> ? Lion system volume and VoiceOver volume >> ? Using VoiceOver Activities in Lion >> ? Letter navigation in Lion Safari with VoiceOver >> ? Lion Premium english voices demo >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 06:22:08 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:22:08 +0100 Subject: What's new in Lion podcasts from Vision Australia In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DEE1A07-599C-4282-9C67-51651A1F5C84@gmail.com> can they do a podcast on the new mail app as well that'd be great On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:15 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > OOO! Thanks for this. I have my first impressions podcast done buti need to edit as I had lunch and left the recorder running while I went to eat. lol! I'm liking lion. Mail is a bit slow but I will check this out. Maybe I can learn a thing or 2 and demo it in my own style. > > Again, thanks for this. > On Jul 21, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> For those of you wanting to sample a number of podcasts demonstrating new features and new voices in Lion for VoiceOver users, there are a nice set of podcasts that Vision Australia has released. You can subscribe to the series through iTunes: >> ? Apple and Other Accessible technology By David Woodbridge >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-accessibility/id423121261 >> or you can go to the PodBean web site: >> http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/ >> or check out the RSS feed and download the individual episodes: >> feed://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/feed/ >> >> If you're using an iOS app like Podcaster, you can go to the "Directory" button (4th of 5) on the bottom of the main screen, double tap, then on the "Podcast Directory" screen navigate to "Import" and double tap. In the text field type or paste in the above RSS feed address (remembering to delete the initial "http://"). >> >> Titles of episodes: >> ? What Is New In Lion And VoiceOver >> ? Using Launchpad in Lion With VoiceOver >> ? Using Mission Control In Lion with VoiceOver >> ? Lion Premium Voices demo - Man From Snowy River >> ? Downloading Premium Voices for VoiceOver In Lion >> ? Lion system volume and VoiceOver volume >> ? Using VoiceOver Activities in Lion >> ? Letter navigation in Lion Safari with VoiceOver >> ? Lion Premium english voices demo >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 06:26:38 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:26:38 +0100 Subject: Little tip regarding Mail Message-ID: <3AFD71C1-47AD-4DCB-9240-E1A1D50260A0@mac-access.net> hello If you want your mil to look like it always did, go into Preferences>View and check the box that says "Use Classic Layout" Lynne From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 22 08:15:09 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:15:09 +1000 Subject: Autor Correction and writing URLS on Ipad Message-ID: Howdy! I'm trying to compose an email to someone on my Ipad and I want to include an URL but every time I write this the "Auto Correction" feature of Ipad steps in and changes the URL by inserting a space into the URL in order to correct what it thinks is a miss-spelling, does anyone have any way I can get around this problem? Cheers! Sent from my iPad From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 08:25:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:25:32 +0100 Subject: Autor Correction and writing URLS on Ipad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <460D14B0-FF32-4D64-91B9-167EDCF4231A@mac-access.net> Hello Dane Does it not work if you put less than and greater than signs around the data? I usually find that works as long as I include the full http:// part of the URL and not just www.blah.blah.blah. Lynne On 22 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Dane Trethowan wrote: Howdy! I'm trying to compose an email to someone on my Ipad and I want to include an URL but every time I write this the "Auto Correction" feature of Ipad steps in and changes the URL by inserting a space into the URL in order to correct what it thinks is a miss-spelling, does anyone have any way I can get around this problem? Cheers! Sent from my iPad <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 08:30:48 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:30:48 +0100 Subject: Magic Trackpad Message-ID: <75ECB8B4-3CBA-46C2-84F3-CC33C2834DD0@mac-access.net> Hello everybodyh I have a question as we are expecting a pair of Magic Trackpads soon. Forgive my ignorance; I'n not a full--tile Voiceover user. When you read web pages with the Trackpad do you have to turn on Trackpad Commander on the Mac? Or does VoiceOver somehow detect the website and just work without it? Where can I find a list of web-related gestures for VoiceOver? I'd like to see Gordon get his head around this at last because he's more or less all keyboard but in order to teach he'll need to know how to use the Trackpad properly. Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 08:30:51 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:30:51 +0100 Subject: Little tip regarding Mail In-Reply-To: <3AFD71C1-47AD-4DCB-9240-E1A1D50260A0@mac-access.net> References: <3AFD71C1-47AD-4DCB-9240-E1A1D50260A0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thanks for this Lyne, I'm using this method, but are you using the newer view? If so, how do you find it? Thanks TC :) James On 22 Jul 2011, at 06:26, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > hello > > If you want your mil to look like it always did, go into Preferences>View and check the box that says "Use Classic Layout" > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 22 08:49:56 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:49:56 +1000 Subject: Autor Correction and writing URLS on Ipad In-Reply-To: <460D14B0-FF32-4D64-91B9-167EDCF4231A@mac-access.net> References: <460D14B0-FF32-4D64-91B9-167EDCF4231A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: No, that's the first thing I did. On 22/07/2011, at 5:25 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > Does it not work if you put less than and greater than signs around the data? I usually find that works as long as I include the full http:// part of the URL and not just www.blah.blah.blah. > > Lynne > > > On 22 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Howdy! > > I'm trying to compose an email to someone on my Ipad and I want to include an URL but every time I write this the "Auto Correction" feature of Ipad steps in and changes the URL by inserting a space into the URL in order to correct what it thinks is a miss-spelling, does anyone have any way I can get around this problem? > > Cheers! > > > > Sent from my iPad > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 22 08:52:02 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:52:02 +1000 Subject: Magic Trackpad In-Reply-To: <75ECB8B4-3CBA-46C2-84F3-CC33C2834DD0@mac-access.net> References: <75ECB8B4-3CBA-46C2-84F3-CC33C2834DD0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <694D4703-0E16-4CA0-A141-08A407252A65@internode.on.net> 2 trackpads, that's one for each hand, neat! . Voiceover automatically detects what situation your computer is in, that is to say if a web page is loaded, if you're working with a Word Processor etc thus adjusts the available gestures on the Magic Trackpad accordingly. On 22/07/2011, at 5:30 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybodyh > > I have a question as we are expecting a pair of Magic Trackpads soon. Forgive my ignorance; I'n not a full--tile Voiceover user. When you read web pages with the Trackpad do you have to turn on Trackpad Commander on the Mac? Or does VoiceOver somehow detect the website and just work without it? Where can I find a list of web-related gestures for VoiceOver? I'd like to see Gordon get his head around this at last because he's more or less all keyboard but in order to teach he'll need to know how to use the Trackpad properly. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Jul 22 08:54:13 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:54:13 +0200 Subject: Is anyone having success with Lion's new method of typing special characters? In-Reply-To: <0B645A51-D068-405E-8787-64A3762470BC@me.com> References: <2813C8BA-BDF8-45EE-AF0A-6F66C1615549@me.com> <0B645A51-D068-405E-8787-64A3762470BC@me.com> Message-ID: Hello Bryan, I hadn't tried this in Mail, but you're right, it stops speaking after the grave accent. This is definitely a bug. Cheers, Anne On 22 Jul 2011, at 04:15, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello Anne, > > Thank you for your response. I spent some more time trying it out and seem to have narrowed my issue down to two specific places. The first is within the body of a new or reply message in Mail.app. Interestingly, the picker works fine in the address and subject lines of mail.app, just not in the body, at least not for me. I tried setting the default text format to both RTF and Text but got the same result. Also, turning spell check off made no difference. Would you mind giving it a try in Mail.app and sharing your findings? > > The second place I'm having the problem is in all fields of Outlook Web Access, which is the interface used by students and staff at my university to access their Exchange email system. This I will bang on some more as time allows. > > Meanwhile, I've had good success using this feature in the current versions of Bento, Pages, TextEdit and even within the Spotlight search field. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> Well spotted! I find that I just have to take my time pressing Right Arrow and all the accents are spoken. >> >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 23:37, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> >>> When typing in Lion you can hold down a letter for just a second or two and it will pop up a list of alternate versions of that letter, such as the various accented characters. However, I can only seem to make VO read either the first or last character in the popup list. I've tried all the methods I can think of to navigate the list: Interact, VO+Shift+J, VO left, right, up, down and inside-out, but none of them are doing the trick. I know other letters are there. If I right arrow a different number of times before pressing Return, I get a different character with each different number of arrow presses. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 22 08:54:37 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:54:37 +1000 Subject: 1 Password Pro for Iphone/Ipad doesn't appear to be accessible Message-ID: <5136C58A-4609-4A50-99E1-315A6BEFE4AE@internode.on.net> Subject line says it all and that's a great shame, anyone had any success in using this? I've gone back to the standard version of 1 Password for Iphone/Ipad, I think someone on list may have mentioned difficulties with 1 Password Pro some time ago? From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Jul 22 09:02:29 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:02:29 +0100 Subject: Is anyone having success with Lion's new method of typing special characters? In-Reply-To: <0B645A51-D068-405E-8787-64A3762470BC@me.com> References: <2813C8BA-BDF8-45EE-AF0A-6F66C1615549@me.com> <0B645A51-D068-405E-8787-64A3762470BC@me.com> Message-ID: <99582178-E1CE-4363-A53D-0DD16C49FA90@computing.dcu.ie> Brian, I can confirm the same issue in the edit field of a new message in mail.app. D?nal On 22 Jul 2011, at 03:15, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello Anne, > > Thank you for your response. I spent some more time trying it out and seem to have narrowed my issue down to two specific places. The first is within the body of a new or reply message in Mail.app. Interestingly, the picker works fine in the address and subject lines of mail.app, just not in the body, at least not for me. I tried setting the default text format to both RTF and Text but got the same result. Also, turning spell check off made no difference. Would you mind giving it a try in Mail.app and sharing your findings? > > The second place I'm having the problem is in all fields of Outlook Web Access, which is the interface used by students and staff at my university to access their Exchange email system. This I will bang on some more as time allows. > > Meanwhile, I've had good success using this feature in the current versions of Bento, Pages, TextEdit and even within the Spotlight search field. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> Well spotted! I find that I just have to take my time pressing Right Arrow and all the accents are spoken. >> >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 23:37, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> >>> When typing in Lion you can hold down a letter for just a second or two and it will pop up a list of alternate versions of that letter, such as the various accented characters. However, I can only seem to make VO read either the first or last character in the popup list. I've tried all the methods I can think of to navigate the list: Interact, VO+Shift+J, VO left, right, up, down and inside-out, but none of them are doing the trick. I know other letters are there. If I right arrow a different number of times before pressing Return, I get a different character with each different number of arrow presses. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Jul 22 09:06:15 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:06:15 +0100 Subject: XLD query In-Reply-To: <8A3E2882-1CBF-4AE9-A7E7-911D42B2DE37@gmail.com> References: <28D4C4F7-D9A1-45A3-B666-34587701C9DE@mac-access.net> <8A3E2882-1CBF-4AE9-A7E7-911D42B2DE37@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18A8642D-597E-4983-96F6-7E309925AA48@computing.dcu.ie> Sarah, Do you happen to know which language the developer uses as his/her native speaking one? D?nal On 22 Jul 2011, at 01:45, Sarah Alawami wrote: > They are not and I talked to the dev and since he can't speak or understand english it was hard to get across to him what I wanted to have fixed. the unlabeled button in the tool bar and the unread progress stuff. > > Good luck in contacting the dev if you can. > On Jul 21, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Donal >> >> When you have XLD set to automatically get the CDDA data from the databases that progress dialogue is populated. But I don't think the contents are exposed to VoiceOver. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 22:47, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> HI all, >> >> I'm only getting around to playing with XLD now. I'm noticing that when ripping a CD, the progress dialog appears. This contains a table which seems to have a row for each track. However, this appears (when using VO) to be blank. Does anyone know what's actually in there? >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Jul 22 10:15:59 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:15:59 +0200 Subject: Magic Trackpad In-Reply-To: <75ECB8B4-3CBA-46C2-84F3-CC33C2834DD0@mac-access.net> References: <75ECB8B4-3CBA-46C2-84F3-CC33C2834DD0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Lynne, Apart from the additional choices in the rotor, the gestures used by the Trackpad Commander are the same everywhere. However, you can add your own gestures by going to VoiceOver Utility and selecting the Commanders category. Select Trackpad and click on Assign Commands. There you'll find a table of existing gestures. You can also try out gestures by turning on Keyboard Help. It's a great way to learn to get them right. Cheers, Anne On 22 Jul 2011, at 09:30, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybodyh > > I have a question as we are expecting a pair of Magic Trackpads soon. Forgive my ignorance; I'n not a full--tile Voiceover user. When you read web pages with the Trackpad do you have to turn on Trackpad Commander on the Mac? Or does VoiceOver somehow detect the website and just work without it? Where can I find a list of web-related gestures for VoiceOver? I'd like to see Gordon get his head around this at last because he's more or less all keyboard but in order to teach he'll need to know how to use the Trackpad properly. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Fri Jul 22 10:21:27 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 05:21:27 -0400 Subject: confused about itunes References: Message-ID: <220CA2FC-9C3B-431C-AC5B-15FF36F7C553@nc.rr.com> > > When I connect my iphone and open itunes I get the itunes store page. How do I get it to show me my iphone or library? It used to do that, but now it just goes to the web page and I don't know how to get it back to what it should be. I did download and install an update to my phone's software, but the only way I knew anything was actually happening was that if I tried to close itunes, it gave me a warning that it was downloading or installing the update. I'm so confused! > > Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not get bent out of shape. > tracyduffy at nc.rr.com > > > > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 10:27:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:27:32 +0100 Subject: Little tip regarding Mail In-Reply-To: References: <3AFD71C1-47AD-4DCB-9240-E1A1D50260A0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello James On 22 Jul 2011, at 08:30, James AUSTIN wrote: ? Thanks for this Lyne, I'm using this method, but are you using the newer view? If so, how do you find it? Put it this way; when I need to use VoiceOver I put Mail into Classic layout mode. When I'm not using VO I have it in modern view because visually it's nicer in my opinion. But the modern view doesn't do much for VoiceOver by the looks of things. And indicentallyly, if I were you I would make sure the preview pane is off. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 10:29:44 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:29:44 +0100 Subject: Autor Correction and writing URLS on Ipad In-Reply-To: References: <460D14B0-FF32-4D64-91B9-167EDCF4231A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <00582EB9-A37B-4FDB-A8BC-080A8E336965@mac-access.net> Hello Dane If you just keep on typing don't you find it work Lynne On 22 Jul 2011, at 08:49, Dane Trethowan wrote: No, that's the first thing I did. From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 10:34:24 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:34:24 +0100 Subject: Magic Trackpad In-Reply-To: <694D4703-0E16-4CA0-A141-08A407252A65@internode.on.net> References: <75ECB8B4-3CBA-46C2-84F3-CC33C2834DD0@mac-access.net> <694D4703-0E16-4CA0-A141-08A407252A65@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hello Dane On 22 Jul 2011, at 08:52, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? 2 trackpads, that's one for each hand, neat! . No; it's one for each non-trackpad-enabled machine. ? Voiceover automatically detects what situation your computer is in, that is to say if a web page is loaded, if you're working with a Word Processor etc thus adjusts the available gestures on the Magic Trackpad accordingly. OK, we haven't got the trackpads yet; so let's see what happens if I turn on the commander and then lod a website. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 10:40:25 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:40:25 +0100 Subject: 1 Password Pro for Iphone/Ipad doesn't appear to be accessible In-Reply-To: <5136C58A-4609-4A50-99E1-315A6BEFE4AE@internode.on.net> References: <5136C58A-4609-4A50-99E1-315A6BEFE4AE@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <3E3BA9C8-A12B-4AFE-A787-93F77C5BC57F@mac-access.net> The extensions in Lion have caused us all kinds of problems to be honest, so I disabled it for the moment. I'm sick of getting the Master Password prompts. On 22 Jul 2011, at 08:54, Dane Trethowan wrote: Subject line says it all and that's a great shame, anyone had any success in using this? I've gone back to the standard version of 1 Password for Iphone/Ipad, I think someone on list may have mentioned difficulties with 1 Password Pro some time ago? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 22 10:48:36 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:48:36 +1000 Subject: 1 Password Pro for Iphone/Ipad doesn't appear to be accessible In-Reply-To: <3E3BA9C8-A12B-4AFE-A787-93F77C5BC57F@mac-access.net> References: <5136C58A-4609-4A50-99E1-315A6BEFE4AE@internode.on.net> <3E3BA9C8-A12B-4AFE-A787-93F77C5BC57F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <37F645C7-F31B-498B-9621-57575C53DB14@internode.on.net> You're talking about 1 Password for Lion? Yep, they're having problems with the extension manager at the moment and the developers have been offering tips, there's a document explaining what to do so I'll post a link to that. Usually, you'll be prompted for the "Master Password" every time you launch Safari and use the 1 Password extension, this can be changed in 1 Password preferences. As for my original topic? Well I was talking about the inaccessibility of 1 Password Pro for Ipad. Sent from my iPad On 22/07/2011, at 7:40 PM, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" wrote: > The extensions in Lion have caused us all kinds of problems to be honest, so I disabled it for the moment. I'm sick of getting the Master Password prompts. > > On 22 Jul 2011, at 08:54, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Subject line says it all and that's a great shame, anyone had any success in using this? > > I've gone back to the standard version of 1 Password for Iphone/Ipad, I think someone on list may have mentioned difficulties with 1 Password Pro some time ago? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 10:48:21 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:48:21 +0100 Subject: Magic Trackpad In-Reply-To: References: <75ECB8B4-3CBA-46C2-84F3-CC33C2834DD0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0EC1DC77-56F1-4387-AB5E-8A97833055B1@mac-access.net> Hello Anne On 22 Jul 2011, at 10:15, Anne Robertson wrote: ? Apart from the additional choices in the rotor, the gestures used by the Trackpad Commander are the same everywhere. However, you can add your own gestures by going to VoiceOver Utility and selecting the Commanders category. Select Trackpad and click on Assign Commands. There you'll find a table of existing gestures. Yes; I've seen those but haven't modified them as I obviously didn't need too. Gordon doesn't like the internal trackpad on the MacBook because it gets in the way f his typing So we're hoping that the external one will be better; which brigs us to another question. Can you disable that internal track pad without, obviously, doing any harm. ? You can also try out gestures by turning on Keyboard Help. It's a great way to learn to get them right. Actually he's messing with that now on another machine. but with the internal trackpad. Lyne From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 22 10:50:04 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:50:04 +1000 Subject: Autor Correction and writing URLS on Ipad In-Reply-To: <00582EB9-A37B-4FDB-A8BC-080A8E336965@mac-access.net> References: <460D14B0-FF32-4D64-91B9-167EDCF4231A@mac-access.net> <00582EB9-A37B-4FDB-A8BC-080A8E336965@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <334356B0-9BA8-4DF6-8B88-747B555ECFB9@internode.on.net> No it won't and I'll give the example of the URL her so you can see what's happening Ipad has put a space in-between finance and guru, it all should be one word. Sent from my iPad On 22/07/2011, at 7:29 PM, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" wrote: > Hello Dane > > If you just keep on typing don't you find it work > > Lynne > > On 22 Jul 2011, at 08:49, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > No, that's the first thing I did. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 10:56:45 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:56:45 +0100 Subject: 1 Password Pro for Iphone/Ipad doesn't appear to be accessible In-Reply-To: <37F645C7-F31B-498B-9621-57575C53DB14@internode.on.net> References: <5136C58A-4609-4A50-99E1-315A6BEFE4AE@internode.on.net> <3E3BA9C8-A12B-4AFE-A787-93F77C5BC57F@mac-access.net> <37F645C7-F31B-498B-9621-57575C53DB14@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hello Dane On 22 Jul 2011, at 10:48, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? You're talking about 1 Password for Lion? Yep, they're having problems with the extension manager at the moment and the developers have been offering tips, there's a document explaining what to do so I'll post a link to that. I just turned it off; if they fix it I'll update it. If not I'll do without. ? Usually, you'll be prompted for the "Master Password" every time you launch Safari and use the 1 Password extension, this can be changed in 1 Password preferences. I was being prompted when I launched other software as well and it got to the point where it was more trouble that it was worth. ? As for my original topic? Well I was talking about the inaccessibility of 1 Password Pro for Ipad. yes, point taken. I've never bothered trying it on those devices. I must find out how it interfaces with Drop box though. Lynne From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 22 10:58:14 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:58:14 +1000 Subject: Safari Extension for 1 Password for Mac Message-ID: Hi! You can learn more about the new Safari and other browser extensions for 1 Password here. http://j.mp/pkuHjz Sent from my iPad From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 11:05:38 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:05:38 +0100 Subject: Autor Correction and writing URLS on Ipad In-Reply-To: <334356B0-9BA8-4DF6-8B88-747B555ECFB9@internode.on.net> References: <460D14B0-FF32-4D64-91B9-167EDCF4231A@mac-access.net> <00582EB9-A37B-4FDB-A8BC-080A8E336965@mac-access.net> <334356B0-9BA8-4DF6-8B88-747B555ECFB9@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hello Dane On 22 Jul 2011, at 10:50, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ipad has put a space in-between finance and guru, it all should be one word. Yes, it does. By the way just for your reference, the "I" on "iPad" shouldn't be capitalised, the "P should be instead. Same is true of iPhone and iPod. Not that it really matters, of course, I just mentioned it as you did ask me to mention those things a while back. Lynne From mike at busboom.at Fri Jul 22 11:09:36 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:09:36 +0200 Subject: Purchasing Lion, International Issues Message-ID: <2C8EAC0C-7AC2-4C5C-86CB-DCCDCF11A5AC@busboom.at> Hello listers, When I get a chance, I will purchase and install Lion. I am wondering, however, if the process will be as straightforward for me and other expatriates as it is for someone who doesn't have his or her residency in a country other than the one in which the Mac was purchased. Here is my situation more specifically: I bought my Mac when I visited my parents in the United States. When Snow Leopard came out, I had friends send me the DVD from the U.S. I currently live in Vienna, Austria, and I do not plan to visit the States for at least three months. When I go to the App Store here in Austria, will it be possible for me to purchase an English version of Lion? Sometimes, companies automatically assume that if an order originates in a certain country, that particular language will be the default language when the product is purchased. While I don't mind speaking German in the least, I still prefer to work with my operating systems in English. Thanks for any thoughts, Mike From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Jul 22 11:11:33 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:11:33 +0100 Subject: Purchasing Lion, International Issues In-Reply-To: <2C8EAC0C-7AC2-4C5C-86CB-DCCDCF11A5AC@busboom.at> References: <2C8EAC0C-7AC2-4C5C-86CB-DCCDCF11A5AC@busboom.at> Message-ID: I think you should be ok Mike. I purchased my machine in the US, but have successfully upgraded to Lion from Ireland. Now I'll add the caveat that I'm using english (albeit a strangely pronounced and spoken variety) so I'm only partially answering your question. D?nal On 22 Jul 2011, at 11:09, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello listers, > > When I get a chance, I will purchase and install Lion. I am wondering, however, if the process will be as straightforward for me and other expatriates as it is for someone who doesn't have his or her residency in a country other than the one in which the Mac was purchased. Here is my situation more specifically: > > I bought my Mac when I visited my parents in the United States. When Snow Leopard came out, I had friends send me the DVD from the U.S. I currently live in Vienna, Austria, and I do not plan to visit the States for at least three months. When I go to the App Store here in Austria, will it be possible for me to purchase an English version of Lion? Sometimes, companies automatically assume that if an order originates in a certain country, that particular language will be the default language when the product is purchased. While I don't mind speaking German in the least, I still prefer to work with my operating systems in English. > > Thanks for any thoughts, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 22 11:20:25 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:20:25 +1000 Subject: 1 Password Pro for Iphone/Ipad doesn't appear to be accessible In-Reply-To: References: <5136C58A-4609-4A50-99E1-315A6BEFE4AE@internode.on.net> <3E3BA9C8-A12B-4AFE-A787-93F77C5BC57F@mac-access.net> <37F645C7-F31B-498B-9621-57575C53DB14@internode.on.net> Message-ID: That's what I'm saying, there are fixes for it. On 22/07/2011, at 7:56 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > On 22 Jul 2011, at 10:48, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > ? You're talking about 1 Password for Lion? Yep, they're having problems with the extension manager at the moment and the developers have been offering tips, there's a document explaining what to do so I'll post a link to that. > > I just turned it off; if they fix it I'll update it. If not I'll do without. > > ? Usually, you'll be prompted for the "Master Password" every time you launch Safari and use the 1 Password extension, this can be changed in 1 Password preferences. > > I was being prompted when I launched other software as well and it got to the point where it was more trouble that it was worth. > > ? As for my original topic? Well I was talking about the inaccessibility of 1 Password Pro for Ipad. > > yes, point taken. I've never bothered trying it on those devices. I must find out how it interfaces with Drop box though. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 11:23:38 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:23:38 +0100 Subject: Little tip regarding Mail In-Reply-To: References: <3AFD71C1-47AD-4DCB-9240-E1A1D50260A0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3516D3B7-7AA7-4DE8-811C-217A971C65E5@mac-access.net> Hello Lynne, Thank you for letting me know your findings. Yes, turning off the Preview pane was one of the first things I did. :) TC :) James On 22 Jul 2011, at 10:27, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > On 22 Jul 2011, at 08:30, James AUSTIN wrote: > > ? Thanks for this Lyne, I'm using this method, but are you using the newer view? If so, how do you find it? > > Put it this way; when I need to use VoiceOver I put Mail into Classic layout mode. When I'm not using VO I have it in modern view because visually it's nicer in my opinion. But the modern view doesn't do much for VoiceOver by the looks of things. And indicentallyly, if I were you I would make sure the preview pane is off. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 11:29:00 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:29:00 +0100 Subject: Purchasing Lion, International Issues In-Reply-To: <2C8EAC0C-7AC2-4C5C-86CB-DCCDCF11A5AC@busboom.at> References: <2C8EAC0C-7AC2-4C5C-86CB-DCCDCF11A5AC@busboom.at> Message-ID: <5DADC596-4ED1-4FE9-AF7C-DBFFEA5E9B26@mac-access.net> Hi Michael I am currently living in the UK, but I performed a fresh install of Lion on Wednesday. English was chosen automatically when the OS installed. I say this because at the time, I was away from the computer. When I went back and didn't hear anything, I turned on VoiceOver to discover that it was in English. Now Lion is available in other languages of course, but I believe English is the default choice on the "Language Chooser" screen. Hope this answers your question. TC :) james On 22 Jul 2011, at 11:09, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello listers, > > When I get a chance, I will purchase and install Lion. I am wondering, however, if the process will be as straightforward for me and other expatriates as it is for someone who doesn't have his or her residency in a country other than the one in which the Mac was purchased. Here is my situation more specifically: > > I bought my Mac when I visited my parents in the United States. When Snow Leopard came out, I had friends send me the DVD from the U.S. I currently live in Vienna, Austria, and I do not plan to visit the States for at least three months. When I go to the App Store here in Austria, will it be possible for me to purchase an English version of Lion? Sometimes, companies automatically assume that if an order originates in a certain country, that particular language will be the default language when the product is purchased. While I don't mind speaking German in the least, I still prefer to work with my operating systems in English. > > Thanks for any thoughts, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 11:36:27 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:36:27 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver 4 & Keynote Message-ID: Hi folks, Last night, I was playing with Keynote and unfortunately, I was still unable to view my created slides in the slide show option. Looks like it's another round-trip to either Preview or Skim. If anyone has any success with this please let me know. Pages seems even more accessible now though, which is fantastic. :) TC :) James From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 22 11:41:53 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:41:53 +1000 Subject: YoruFukurou Twitter Client Message-ID: This is a very nice client indeed! and works particularly well under OSX Lin, very fast and responsive so Syrinx - as good as it is - is now defined to history as far as I'm concerned and YoruFukurou has taken its place, has a whole heap of extra options included like the ability to shorten URLS etc, its fee so check it out. From cjsims at me.com Fri Jul 22 11:43:22 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:43:22 +1000 Subject: removing partition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You will need to do a reformat, and then copy your mac configguration back on. That is the quickest way to do this. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 22/07/2011, at 12:14 PM, Cornell Ligon wrote: > > Hi All, > I had Win XP on my mac mini before it became corrupted. Now, I want to remove the partition all together returning my system to mac only. How do I accomplish this removing all remnants of XP restoring my entire 360 hd for mac? > thanks in advance! > > Best Regards, Cornell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bryansmart at bryansmart.com Fri Jul 22 11:46:01 2011 From: bryansmart at bryansmart.com (Bryan Smart) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:46:01 -0400 Subject: Alex voice question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wish it were a higher quality. Alex sounds different and worse in Lion. It's hard to describe, but it sounds like it is more compressed than the older version. It has this kind of buzzing undertone that didn't used to be there. Also, it is slower, but that is probably VoiceOver. Typing with keyboard echo set to character is extremely slow. Arrowing in documents seems somewhat slower than it used to be. The Nuance voices are extremely fast. They'd be great, except for the qwerky pronunciation issues, and the bug that causes the pitch to occasionally jump or fall in the middle of sentences. Bryan On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Alex can't be downloaded, it's the same one. I don't see how it could be higher quality, since nothing is wrong here. Please be a bit more elaborate, possibly provide audio links of some sort. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> Is the Alex default voice the same Alex as the one that can be downloaded in the customize options or is that selection a higher quality? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6311 (20110720) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Jul 22 11:47:31 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:47:31 +0200 Subject: Purchasing Lion, International Issues In-Reply-To: <2C8EAC0C-7AC2-4C5C-86CB-DCCDCF11A5AC@busboom.at> References: <2C8EAC0C-7AC2-4C5C-86CB-DCCDCF11A5AC@busboom.at> Message-ID: <92AA92A6-87C2-44D9-92F3-13BB48E31C02@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Mike, You'll have no problem with the language. As you know, I live in France but run my Mac in English and it's never been a problem. Cheers, Anne On 22 Jul 2011, at 12:09, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello listers, > > When I get a chance, I will purchase and install Lion. I am wondering, however, if the process will be as straightforward for me and other expatriates as it is for someone who doesn't have his or her residency in a country other than the one in which the Mac was purchased. Here is my situation more specifically: > > I bought my Mac when I visited my parents in the United States. When Snow Leopard came out, I had friends send me the DVD from the U.S. I currently live in Vienna, Austria, and I do not plan to visit the States for at least three months. When I go to the App Store here in Austria, will it be possible for me to purchase an English version of Lion? Sometimes, companies automatically assume that if an order originates in a certain country, that particular language will be the default language when the product is purchased. While I don't mind speaking German in the least, I still prefer to work with my operating systems in English. > > Thanks for any thoughts, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 22 11:49:57 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:49:57 +1000 Subject: Bento for IPad Message-ID: <55069EF6-C36B-4C6A-B71E-FBA2D57096C4@internode.on.net> Hi! Just bought this and I also saw a Tutor For Bento app, has anyone tried this to see if its of any use to those without vision? I suppose at the price I may as well buy it and try it myself . From bryansmart at bryansmart.com Fri Jul 22 11:41:24 2011 From: bryansmart at bryansmart.com (Bryan Smart) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:41:24 -0400 Subject: Xcode 4.1 In-Reply-To: <0F2F7D3B-353B-4773-B64A-2175F4C2E908@computing.dcu.ie> References: <19CAACC4-465A-4F79-B494-91F4D2BBDAD4@computing.dcu.ie> <7904432D-6B44-4670-9D7A-4F6B67168813@gmail.com> <0F2F7D3B-353B-4773-B64A-2175F4C2E908@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <4B6B5C0E-0493-4415-BFE4-3678C1800DD2@bryansmart.com> In Xcode 4, the process of editing application interfaces has been integrated with the main Xcode application. Parts of the new process are more accessible, but there are still large limitations. Plus, even full accessibility wouldn't help a blind person come up with good layout, sizing, font and color selections, etc. No matter. You don't need Apple's dev tools to make a UI for your app. I ported Renaissance from NextStep. You can use it to build your app's interface from a description in an XML file. The XML file describes the types of controls that should be in a window, along with their proportional and logical relationships. Based on that info, controls are automatically arranged and sized for you. If you don't like part of the automatic behavior, you can include an attribute for one of the controls to force it to a specific position, size, font, style, etc. Specify every detail, or describe the basics and let layout happen automatically. It is a bit like WX Widgets, but even more help for layout. My last release was over 6 months ago. The current release works, but has limited documentation. If you have a coding background, you should be able to figure it out. If you're just starting out, then you'll be quite confused. I'm working a bit on updating it with additional docs and examples when I can, but the hobby portion of my coding life has recently been consumed with some VoIP and scripting projects. http://blog.bryansmart.com/2010/10/25/renaissancex-2010-02-28/ Bryan On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:37 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi Nick, > > At this stage just your general impressions will do fine. I'm presuming interface builder is still inaccessible? Blind developers don't seem to be high on Apple's priority list. > > D?nal > On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:35, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hello D?nal >> >> Yes, I have played with it. What do you wish to know? >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:33 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Anyone played with it yet? I'm waiting to go to work to download it. It's about 3 gig. >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Fri Jul 22 11:53:50 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:53:50 +1000 Subject: confused about itunes In-Reply-To: <220CA2FC-9C3B-431C-AC5B-15FF36F7C553@nc.rr.com> References: <220CA2FC-9C3B-431C-AC5B-15FF36F7C553@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <9CE52001-4C17-4BDB-94AC-FAD617E000F8@me.com> Hi tracy. I'm also an Iphone user. I haven't had those issues. What I can say is this. Try and get back to your sauses list. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 22/07/2011, at 7:21 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >> When I connect my iphone and open itunes I get the itunes store page. How do I get it to show me my iphone or library? It used to do that, but now it just goes to the web page and I don't know how to get it back to what it should be. I did download and install an update to my phone's software, but the only way I knew anything was actually happening was that if I tried to close itunes, it gave me a warning that it was downloading or installing the update. I'm so confused! >> >> Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not get bent out of shape. >> tracyduffy at nc.rr.com >> >> >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Fri Jul 22 11:53:50 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:53:50 +1000 Subject: confused about itunes In-Reply-To: <220CA2FC-9C3B-431C-AC5B-15FF36F7C553@nc.rr.com> References: <220CA2FC-9C3B-431C-AC5B-15FF36F7C553@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <9CE52001-4C17-4BDB-94AC-FAD617E000F8@me.com> Hi tracy. I'm also an Iphone user. I haven't had those issues. What I can say is this. Try and get back to your sauses list. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 22/07/2011, at 7:21 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >> When I connect my iphone and open itunes I get the itunes store page. How do I get it to show me my iphone or library? It used to do that, but now it just goes to the web page and I don't know how to get it back to what it should be. I did download and install an update to my phone's software, but the only way I knew anything was actually happening was that if I tried to close itunes, it gave me a warning that it was downloading or installing the update. I'm so confused! >> >> Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not get bent out of shape. >> tracyduffy at nc.rr.com >> >> >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Fri Jul 22 11:53:50 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:53:50 +1000 Subject: confused about itunes In-Reply-To: <220CA2FC-9C3B-431C-AC5B-15FF36F7C553@nc.rr.com> References: <220CA2FC-9C3B-431C-AC5B-15FF36F7C553@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <9CE52001-4C17-4BDB-94AC-FAD617E000F8@me.com> Hi tracy. I'm also an Iphone user. I haven't had those issues. What I can say is this. Try and get back to your sauses list. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 22/07/2011, at 7:21 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >> When I connect my iphone and open itunes I get the itunes store page. How do I get it to show me my iphone or library? It used to do that, but now it just goes to the web page and I don't know how to get it back to what it should be. I did download and install an update to my phone's software, but the only way I knew anything was actually happening was that if I tried to close itunes, it gave me a warning that it was downloading or installing the update. I'm so confused! >> >> Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not get bent out of shape. >> tracyduffy at nc.rr.com >> >> >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Jul 22 12:30:28 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:30:28 +0100 Subject: Xcode 4.1 In-Reply-To: <4B6B5C0E-0493-4415-BFE4-3678C1800DD2@bryansmart.com> References: <19CAACC4-465A-4F79-B494-91F4D2BBDAD4@computing.dcu.ie> <7904432D-6B44-4670-9D7A-4F6B67168813@gmail.com> <0F2F7D3B-353B-4773-B64A-2175F4C2E908@computing.dcu.ie> <4B6B5C0E-0493-4415-BFE4-3678C1800DD2@bryansmart.com> Message-ID: <1261C28F-6A5C-41A0-8B75-20B7EF6D27DB@computing.dcu.ie> Thanks Brian, I'm very very familiar with the Renaissance project (as you know from other lists), but good to know work is stil ongoing. D?nal On 22 Jul 2011, at 11:41, Bryan Smart wrote: > In Xcode 4, the process of editing application interfaces has been integrated with the main Xcode application. Parts of the new process are more accessible, but there are still large limitations. > > Plus, even full accessibility wouldn't help a blind person come up with good layout, sizing, font and color selections, etc. > > No matter. You don't need Apple's dev tools to make a UI for your app. I ported Renaissance from NextStep. You can use it to build your app's interface from a description in an XML file. The XML file describes the types of controls that should be in a window, along with their proportional and logical relationships. Based on that info, controls are automatically arranged and sized for you. If you don't like part of the automatic behavior, you can include an attribute for one of the controls to force it to a specific position, size, font, style, etc. Specify every detail, or describe the basics and let layout happen automatically. It is a bit like WX Widgets, but even more help for layout. > > My last release was over 6 months ago. The current release works, but has limited documentation. If you have a coding background, you should be able to figure it out. If you're just starting out, then you'll be quite confused. I'm working a bit on updating it with additional docs and examples when I can, but the hobby portion of my coding life has recently been consumed with some VoIP and scripting projects. > > http://blog.bryansmart.com/2010/10/25/renaissancex-2010-02-28/ > > Bryan > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:37 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi Nick, >> >> At this stage just your general impressions will do fine. I'm presuming interface builder is still inaccessible? Blind developers don't seem to be high on Apple's priority list. >> >> D?nal >> On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:35, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hello D?nal >>> >>> Yes, I have played with it. What do you wish to know? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:33 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Anyone played with it yet? I'm waiting to go to work to download it. It's about 3 gig. >>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Jul 22 12:31:19 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:31:19 +0100 Subject: YoruFukurou Twitter Client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: on this. I use it all the time. Only thing I haven't figured out is to see what tweet another tweet is responding to. Does that make sense? :-)+1 On 22 Jul 2011, at 11:41, Dane Trethowan wrote: > This is a very nice client indeed! and works particularly well under OSX Lin, very fast and responsive so Syrinx - as good as it is - is now defined to history as far as I'm concerned and YoruFukurou has taken its place, has a whole heap of extra options included like the ability to shorten URLS etc, its fee so check it out. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Jul 22 12:31:51 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:31:51 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver 4 & Keynote In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <023A1ED6-4572-4BEA-9F8C-185652E435E9@computing.dcu.ie> No James Keynote is still (all caps) HORRIBLE!!! D?nal On 22 Jul 2011, at 11:36, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi folks, > > Last night, I was playing with Keynote and unfortunately, I was still unable to view my created slides in the slide show option. Looks like it's another round-trip to either Preview or Skim. If anyone has any success with this please let me know. Pages seems even more accessible now though, which is fantastic. :) > > TC :) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From cjsims at me.com Fri Jul 22 12:21:16 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:21:16 +1000 Subject: What's new in Lion podcasts from Vision Australia In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looking forward to your lion podcast. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 22/07/2011, at 10:15 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > OOO! Thanks for this. I have my first impressions podcast done buti need to edit as I had lunch and left the recorder running while I went to eat. lol! I'm liking lion. Mail is a bit slow but I will check this out. Maybe I can learn a thing or 2 and demo it in my own style. > > Again, thanks for this. > On Jul 21, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> For those of you wanting to sample a number of podcasts demonstrating new features and new voices in Lion for VoiceOver users, there are a nice set of podcasts that Vision Australia has released. You can subscribe to the series through iTunes: >> ? Apple and Other Accessible technology By David Woodbridge >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-accessibility/id423121261 >> or you can go to the PodBean web site: >> http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/ >> or check out the RSS feed and download the individual episodes: >> feed://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/feed/ >> >> If you're using an iOS app like Podcaster, you can go to the "Directory" button (4th of 5) on the bottom of the main screen, double tap, then on the "Podcast Directory" screen navigate to "Import" and double tap. In the text field type or paste in the above RSS feed address (remembering to delete the initial "http://"). >> >> Titles of episodes: >> ? What Is New In Lion And VoiceOver >> ? Using Launchpad in Lion With VoiceOver >> ? Using Mission Control In Lion with VoiceOver >> ? Lion Premium Voices demo - Man From Snowy River >> ? Downloading Premium Voices for VoiceOver In Lion >> ? Lion system volume and VoiceOver volume >> ? Using VoiceOver Activities in Lion >> ? Letter navigation in Lion Safari with VoiceOver >> ? Lion Premium english voices demo >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 12:37:17 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:37:17 +0200 Subject: YoruFukurou Twitter Client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Don?l You can find this out by hitting Command-3 for conversation view. This also works on Direct messages, in case someone wondered. Regards, Nic On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:31 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > on this. I use it all the time. Only thing I haven't figured out is to see what tweet another tweet is responding to. Does that make sense? :-)+1 > On 22 Jul 2011, at 11:41, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> This is a very nice client indeed! and works particularly well under OSX Lin, very fast and responsive so Syrinx - as good as it is - is now defined to history as far as I'm concerned and YoruFukurou has taken its place, has a whole heap of extra options included like the ability to shorten URLS etc, its fee so check it out. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Jul 22 12:39:30 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:39:30 +0100 Subject: YoruFukurou Twitter Client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <288021CB-15A0-41E3-B3CB-B2FEB7AA5B71@computing.dcu.ie> As ever Nick, thanks a lot. On 22 Jul 2011, at 12:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Don?l > > You can find this out by hitting Command-3 for conversation view. This also works on Direct messages, in case someone wondered. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:31 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> on this. I use it all the time. Only thing I haven't figured out is to see what tweet another tweet is responding to. Does that make sense? :-)+1 >> On 22 Jul 2011, at 11:41, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> This is a very nice client indeed! and works particularly well under OSX Lin, very fast and responsive so Syrinx - as good as it is - is now defined to history as far as I'm concerned and YoruFukurou has taken its place, has a whole heap of extra options included like the ability to shorten URLS etc, its fee so check it out. >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From cjsims at me.com Fri Jul 22 12:46:31 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:46:31 +1000 Subject: Autor Correction and writing URLS on Ipad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5C5520B3-0612-4503-B99A-B72033F949BA@me.com> I'm not an Ipad owner, however, what about using the jesture to cancel the auto correction? Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 22/07/2011, at 5:15 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Howdy! > > I'm trying to compose an email to someone on my Ipad and I want to include an URL but every time I write this the "Auto Correction" feature of Ipad steps in and changes the URL by inserting a space into the URL in order to correct what it thinks is a miss-spelling, does anyone have any way I can get around this problem? > > Cheers! > > > > Sent from my iPad > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Fri Jul 22 12:49:29 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:49:29 +1000 Subject: Little tip regarding Mail In-Reply-To: <3516D3B7-7AA7-4DE8-811C-217A971C65E5@mac-access.net> References: <3AFD71C1-47AD-4DCB-9240-E1A1D50260A0@mac-access.net> <3516D3B7-7AA7-4DE8-811C-217A971C65E5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4E08B0F9-FB3C-4206-8063-8F7A495F60E9@me.com> Is the preview pain in Lion more of a problem? I've left mine on. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 22/07/2011, at 8:23 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hello Lynne, > Thank you for letting me know your findings. Yes, turning off the Preview pane was one of the first things I did. :) > TC :) > James > On 22 Jul 2011, at 10:27, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello James >> >> On 22 Jul 2011, at 08:30, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> ? Thanks for this Lyne, I'm using this method, but are you using the newer view? If so, how do you find it? >> >> Put it this way; when I need to use VoiceOver I put Mail into Classic layout mode. When I'm not using VO I have it in modern view because visually it's nicer in my opinion. But the modern view doesn't do much for VoiceOver by the looks of things. And indicentallyly, if I were you I would make sure the preview pane is off. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Fri Jul 22 13:27:11 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:27:11 +1000 Subject: Latest Itunes. Message-ID: <5796D404-4623-43A5-8244-7178C9C969EF@me.com> Hi to the list. Have downloaded Itunes and now I notice that things are broken. I can no longer navigate with in the podcasts table for example with out interacting with it. Anyone else finding this? Christopher Sims e: cjsims at internode.net.au Phone: H 0396505646 Phone M: 0418558275 Skype cjsims3000 Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jul 22 13:33:18 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:33:18 -0300 Subject: What's new in Lion podcasts from Vision Australia In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6EE794F8441842249087339ECC9D4852@MainComputer> esther: For some reason, I am not able to connect with that podcast with podcaster. Anyone else having the same problem? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:32 PM Subject: What's new in Lion podcasts from Vision Australia > Hi all, > > For those of you wanting to sample a number of podcasts demonstrating new > features and new voices in Lion for VoiceOver users, there are a nice set > of podcasts that Vision Australia has released. You can subscribe to the > series through iTunes: > ? Apple and Other Accessible technology By David Woodbridge > http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-accessibility/id423121261 > or you can go to the PodBean web site: > http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/ > or check out the RSS feed and download the individual episodes: > feed://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/feed/ > > If you're using an iOS app like Podcaster, you can go to the "Directory" > button (4th of 5) on the bottom of the main screen, double tap, then on > the "Podcast Directory" screen navigate to "Import" and double tap. In the > text field type or paste in the above RSS feed address (remembering to > delete the initial "http://"). > > Titles of episodes: > ? What Is New In Lion And VoiceOver > ? Using Launchpad in Lion With VoiceOver > ? Using Mission Control In Lion with VoiceOver > ? Lion Premium Voices demo - Man From Snowy River > ? Downloading Premium Voices for VoiceOver In Lion > ? Lion system volume and VoiceOver volume > ? Using VoiceOver Activities in Lion > ? Letter navigation in Lion Safari with VoiceOver > ? Lion Premium english voices demo > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6315 (20110722) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 13:52:33 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:52:33 +0100 Subject: Latest Itunes. In-Reply-To: <5796D404-4623-43A5-8244-7178C9C969EF@me.com> References: <5796D404-4623-43A5-8244-7178C9C969EF@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Christopher, Yes, unfortunately, many of us have discovered a number of issues with the new ITunes. If you search the archives, you'll find a number of discussions on this. TC :) James On 22 Jul 2011, at 13:27, Christopher Sims wrote: > Hi to the list. Have downloaded Itunes and now I notice that things are broken. I can no longer navigate with in the podcasts table for example with out interacting with it. Anyone else finding this? > Christopher Sims e: cjsims at internode.net.au Phone: H 0396505646 Phone M: 0418558275 Skype cjsims3000 > > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Fri Jul 22 14:01:10 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:01:10 +1000 Subject: Latest Itunes. In-Reply-To: References: <5796D404-4623-43A5-8244-7178C9C969EF@me.com> Message-ID: Thanks for Verifying this. I've just posted to apple reporting the issue. For the information, of list members, I'll copy the text of the message below. Hi. I'm a voiceover user. I've downloaded the new Itunes , and I'm having problems when I access Itunes. The problem takes the form that previously I could navigate the tables listing available media types, and Itunes store with no problems. Now when I attempt to do the same thing after updating to 10.4, I have to interact with the tables so that I can hear my results. I'm currently running 10.6.8 version, however, I'll be getting Lion very shortly. Please advise if this is fixed in the Lion version of 10.4? Thanks. Christopher Sims e: cjsims at internode.net.au Phone: H 0396505646 Phone M: 0418558275 Skype cjsims3000 Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 22/07/2011, at 10:52 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Christopher, > > Yes, unfortunately, many of us have discovered a number of issues with the new ITunes. If you search the archives, you'll find a number of discussions on this. > > TC :) > James > On 22 Jul 2011, at 13:27, Christopher Sims wrote: > >> Hi to the list. Have downloaded Itunes and now I notice that things are broken. I can no longer navigate with in the podcasts table for example with out interacting with it. Anyone else finding this? >> Christopher Sims e: cjsims at internode.net.au Phone: H 0396505646 Phone M: 0418558275 Skype cjsims3000 >> >> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 14:07:41 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:07:41 +0100 Subject: Latest Itunes. In-Reply-To: References: <5796D404-4623-43A5-8244-7178C9C969EF@me.com> Message-ID: <10E3128D-24AF-4F98-B2FB-C8513656920E@mac-access.net> Hi Christopher, What address did you use to get in touch with Apple? Thanks TC :) James On 22 Jul 2011, at 14:01, Christopher Sims wrote: > Thanks for Verifying this. I've just posted to apple reporting the issue. > > For the information, of list members, I'll copy the text of the message below. > > Hi. I'm a voiceover user. I've downloaded the new Itunes , and I'm having problems when I access Itunes. The problem takes the form that previously I could navigate the tables listing available media types, and Itunes store with no problems. > > Now when I attempt to do the same thing after updating to 10.4, I have to interact with the tables so that I can hear my results. I'm currently running 10.6.8 version, however, I'll be getting Lion very shortly. Please advise if this is fixed in the Lion version of 10.4? Thanks. > Christopher Sims e: cjsims at internode.net.au Phone: H 0396505646 Phone M: 0418558275 Skype cjsims3000 > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 22/07/2011, at 10:52 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Christopher, >> >> Yes, unfortunately, many of us have discovered a number of issues with the new ITunes. If you search the archives, you'll find a number of discussions on this. >> >> TC :) >> James >> On 22 Jul 2011, at 13:27, Christopher Sims wrote: >> >>> Hi to the list. Have downloaded Itunes and now I notice that things are broken. I can no longer navigate with in the podcasts table for example with out interacting with it. Anyone else finding this? >>> Christopher Sims e: cjsims at internode.net.au Phone: H 0396505646 Phone M: 0418558275 Skype cjsims3000 >>> >>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 22 14:31:45 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:31:45 +1000 Subject: Autor Correction and writing URLS on Ipad In-Reply-To: <5C5520B3-0612-4503-B99A-B72033F949BA@me.com> References: <5C5520B3-0612-4503-B99A-B72033F949BA@me.com> Message-ID: <18202DC5-0342-4888-B076-108E7F122483@internode.on.net> Yep Point taken, you swipe down for that is this correct? Odd, I've never seen this effect before, I've typed URLS into email messages countless times using Ipad. Sent from my iPad On 22/07/2011, at 9:46 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: > I'm not an Ipad owner, however, what about using the jesture to cancel the auto correction? > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 22/07/2011, at 5:15 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Howdy! >> >> I'm trying to compose an email to someone on my Ipad and I want to include an URL but every time I write this the "Auto Correction" feature of Ipad steps in and changes the URL by inserting a space into the URL in order to correct what it thinks is a miss-spelling, does anyone have any way I can get around this problem? >> >> Cheers! >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Jul 22 15:03:41 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:03:41 +0100 Subject: Pages and styles Message-ID: <05C93042-E2B4-4930-B54B-F4B5918D6F57@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I am about to create my first substantial document using Pages on Lion. In the past I used Microsoft WOrd a lot on Windows. I used to make extensive use of the built-in WOrd styles which had names like heading 1, heading 2, heading 3, body text, numbered list 1 and so on. I was rather hoping to find a similar set of pre-defined named styles in Pages but if present they are well hidden! So does Pages offer a set of standard styles which I can use to create documents? If so how do I find them. If not what do you do instead? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jul 22 16:09:03 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:09:03 +1000 Subject: More on 1 Password Professional for IOS and its inaccessibility Message-ID: <4E29928F.7020005@internode.on.net> Thanks to the excellent and quick response from the developers of this app, once the fuss regarding OSX Lion has died down they will return to the IOS app and sort it out. -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 17:16:30 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:16:30 +0100 Subject: Using Track Changes with Voice Over in Pages Message-ID: <28F352F9-4DC0-4CCD-8F3F-3739277CACE5@mac-access.net> Hi folks, Has anyone had any experience using Track Changes with Pages using VoiceOver please? While I've been able to read the type of track change, I can find no way of determining where the track change comes in the document. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks TC :) james From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Jul 22 17:32:28 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:32:28 +0200 Subject: Pages and styles In-Reply-To: <05C93042-E2B4-4930-B54B-F4B5918D6F57@hopewell.org.uk> References: <05C93042-E2B4-4930-B54B-F4B5918D6F57@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <41209853-1FBA-42D2-92F8-936B6CB46883@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Paul, To show the styles drawer, press Cmd-Shift-T. You then have to stop interacting with everything and navigate left or press VO-Cmd-T or VO-Cmd-Shift-T to find the next or previous table, depending on where you are in the window. You'll then find 3 tables: paragraph styles, character styles and list styles. To get an idea of how to use Pages, listen to the VoiceOver On podcast dealing with Pages and Keynote. Cheers, Anne On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:03, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I am about to create my first substantial document using Pages on Lion. In the past I used Microsoft WOrd a lot on Windows. I used to make extensive use of the built-in WOrd styles which had names like heading 1, heading 2, heading 3, body text, numbered list 1 and so on. I was rather hoping to find a similar set of pre-defined named styles in Pages but if present they are well hidden! > > So does Pages offer a set of standard styles which I can use to create documents? If so how do I find them. If not what do you do instead? > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 17:34:17 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:34:17 -0700 Subject: What's new in Lion podcasts from Vision Australia In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <191BCC71-68C5-49A6-BE6E-9CBE80F2C4E3@gmail.com> lol. it's done and edited but I needed to reboot my brain last night. All y'all who want copy please subscribe to http://marrie.podbean.com/feed Take care On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:21 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: > Looking forward to your lion podcast. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 22/07/2011, at 10:15 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> OOO! Thanks for this. I have my first impressions podcast done buti need to edit as I had lunch and left the recorder running while I went to eat. lol! I'm liking lion. Mail is a bit slow but I will check this out. Maybe I can learn a thing or 2 and demo it in my own style. >> >> Again, thanks for this. >> On Jul 21, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> For those of you wanting to sample a number of podcasts demonstrating new features and new voices in Lion for VoiceOver users, there are a nice set of podcasts that Vision Australia has released. You can subscribe to the series through iTunes: >>> ? Apple and Other Accessible technology By David Woodbridge >>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-accessibility/id423121261 >>> or you can go to the PodBean web site: >>> http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/ >>> or check out the RSS feed and download the individual episodes: >>> feed://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/feed/ >>> >>> If you're using an iOS app like Podcaster, you can go to the "Directory" button (4th of 5) on the bottom of the main screen, double tap, then on the "Podcast Directory" screen navigate to "Import" and double tap. In the text field type or paste in the above RSS feed address (remembering to delete the initial "http://"). >>> >>> Titles of episodes: >>> ? What Is New In Lion And VoiceOver >>> ? Using Launchpad in Lion With VoiceOver >>> ? Using Mission Control In Lion with VoiceOver >>> ? Lion Premium Voices demo - Man From Snowy River >>> ? Downloading Premium Voices for VoiceOver In Lion >>> ? Lion system volume and VoiceOver volume >>> ? Using VoiceOver Activities in Lion >>> ? Letter navigation in Lion Safari with VoiceOver >>> ? Lion Premium english voices demo >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Jul 22 17:34:33 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:34:33 +0200 Subject: Using Track Changes with Voice Over in Pages In-Reply-To: <28F352F9-4DC0-4CCD-8F3F-3739277CACE5@mac-access.net> References: <28F352F9-4DC0-4CCD-8F3F-3739277CACE5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <58F7D88C-2E55-486D-834D-6E1A56B21B83@anarchie.org.uk> Hello James, Track changes are extremely difficult in Pages. The only way I've found so far is to search for the text that is shown to have been changed using the Find command. The arrow keys on their own will read the change, whereas the VO keys with arrows will not read the previous text. Cheers, Anne On 22 Jul 2011, at 18:16, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi folks, > > Has anyone had any experience using Track Changes with Pages using VoiceOver please? While I've been able to read the type of track change, I can find no way of determining where the track change comes in the document. > > Any help would be very much appreciated. > > Thanks > TC :) > james > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 17:35:10 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:35:10 -0700 Subject: Little tip regarding Mail In-Reply-To: <3AFD71C1-47AD-4DCB-9240-E1A1D50260A0@mac-access.net> References: <3AFD71C1-47AD-4DCB-9240-E1A1D50260A0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thanks. I did that the second I saw that. Thanks a bunch. and I'll cover the differences in my podcast on mail when I get around to doing it. Man I'm supposed to be on a break lol! On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > hello > > If you want your mil to look like it always did, go into Preferences>View and check the box that says "Use Classic Layout" > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 17:36:05 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:36:05 -0700 Subject: YoruFukurou Twitter Client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1A4C5E9F-14E6-4C5E-84F8-D4D585998297@gmail.com> Yeh i'm using it now and it works very good! Iv'e been using it now for about 7 or so months and the devs are wonderful at working out solutes for accessibility. They even say that in app updates that voice over support has been added. Take care. On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:41 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > This is a very nice client indeed! and works particularly well under OSX Lin, very fast and responsive so Syrinx - as good as it is - is now defined to history as far as I'm concerned and YoruFukurou has taken its place, has a whole heap of extra options included like the ability to shorten URLS etc, its fee so check it out. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 17:37:43 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:37:43 -0700 Subject: Alex voice question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86154D7E-EFD7-4C87-945F-360809CF2A44@gmail.com> I don't notice the sluggishness. I'm running him now under mail and ht's as fast as ever, maybe a bit faster. I don't hear the compression issues but I do notice he pronounces things correctly now. yes ! On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:46 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > I wish it were a higher quality. > > Alex sounds different and worse in Lion. It's hard to describe, but it sounds like it is more compressed than the older version. It has this kind of buzzing undertone that didn't used to be there. > > Also, it is slower, but that is probably VoiceOver. Typing with keyboard echo set to character is extremely slow. Arrowing in documents seems somewhat slower than it used to be. > > The Nuance voices are extremely fast. They'd be great, except for the qwerky pronunciation issues, and the bug that causes the pitch to occasionally jump or fall in the middle of sentences. > > Bryan > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi Jim, >> >> Alex can't be downloaded, it's the same one. I don't see how it could be higher quality, since nothing is wrong here. Please be a bit more elaborate, possibly provide audio links of some sort. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> Is the Alex default voice the same Alex as the one that can be downloaded in the customize options or is that selection a higher quality? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6311 (20110720) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From mfurness at bell.net Fri Jul 22 17:39:55 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:39:55 -0400 Subject: making lion disk Message-ID: I have 2 post on how to do this. But, my brain can not comprehend them One, I do not know how to do a right click. Nor, could I follow where the "DMG" file is located. Would some kind person take pity on me and lead me through the process, before I download Lion? Thank you for all your help! Mark. From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jul 22 17:42:28 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:42:28 +0100 Subject: Using Track Changes with Voice Over in Pages In-Reply-To: <58F7D88C-2E55-486D-834D-6E1A56B21B83@anarchie.org.uk> References: <28F352F9-4DC0-4CCD-8F3F-3739277CACE5@mac-access.net> <58F7D88C-2E55-486D-834D-6E1A56B21B83@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <10AD978F-BF1B-4C0A-806C-216B813058BD@mac-access.net> Hello Anne, Thank you. I'll try this. TC :) James On 22 Jul 2011, at 17:34, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello James, > > Track changes are extremely difficult in Pages. The only way I've found so far is to search for the text that is shown to have been changed using the Find command. The arrow keys on their own will read the change, whereas the VO keys with arrows will not read the previous text. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 22 Jul 2011, at 18:16, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> Has anyone had any experience using Track Changes with Pages using VoiceOver please? While I've been able to read the type of track change, I can find no way of determining where the track change comes in the document. >> >> Any help would be very much appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> TC :) >> james >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Jul 22 17:43:16 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:43:16 +0100 Subject: Bulleted and Numberedlists in pages Message-ID: <53AE3A4A-0DB7-404C-A346-5999EB795177@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I am using Pages on Lion with VoiceOver and need to create numbered and bulleted lists. I followed the instructions in the help i.e. set automatic lists on in preferences, type say 1 followed by period and space and then the list item which might span several lines. then press return and type the second list item and so on. to terminate the list press return twice. When I do this the numbers of the list items do not appear in the document and I am thus not sure what has happened. Similarly when I try a bulleted list the bullets do not appear. Is there any way to check that the numbers and bullets are really there? Also if I check the cursor offset when it is positioned on the first character of each line it seems that pressing return twice does not exit the list. So do numbered and bulleted lists really work as advertised in Pages on Lion? Ideally I would prefer to use styles from the styles drawer to create lists and headings and so on in my document and ideally have VoiceOver speak the current style whenever that style changes as you arrow around your document. However I could not get this to work. I would thus appreciate any tips on creating Pages documents with headings and lists using VoiceOver. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Jul 22 17:48:17 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:48:17 +0100 Subject: Pages and styles In-Reply-To: <41209853-1FBA-42D2-92F8-936B6CB46883@anarchie.org.uk> References: <05C93042-E2B4-4930-B54B-F4B5918D6F57@hopewell.org.uk> <41209853-1FBA-42D2-92F8-936B6CB46883@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <6D169231-0AA4-432E-95E7-B5AB18357A23@hopewell.org.uk> Hello Anne, Many thanks for that. Where Do I find the podcast you refer to on how to use Pages and Keynote with VoiceOver? Many thanks. Paul On 22 Jul 2011, at 17:32, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Paul, > > To show the styles drawer, press Cmd-Shift-T. You then have to stop interacting with everything and navigate left or press VO-Cmd-T or VO-Cmd-Shift-T to find the next or previous table, depending on where you are in the window. You'll then find 3 tables: paragraph styles, character styles and list styles. > > To get an idea of how to use Pages, listen to the VoiceOver On podcast dealing with Pages and Keynote. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:03, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am about to create my first substantial document using Pages on Lion. In the past I used Microsoft WOrd a lot on Windows. I used to make extensive use of the built-in WOrd styles which had names like heading 1, heading 2, heading 3, body text, numbered list 1 and so on. I was rather hoping to find a similar set of pre-defined named styles in Pages but if present they are well hidden! >> >> So does Pages offer a set of standard styles which I can use to create documents? If so how do I find them. If not what do you do instead? >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Jul 22 17:54:10 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:54:10 +0200 Subject: Pages and styles In-Reply-To: <6D169231-0AA4-432E-95E7-B5AB18357A23@hopewell.org.uk> References: <05C93042-E2B4-4930-B54B-F4B5918D6F57@hopewell.org.uk> <41209853-1FBA-42D2-92F8-936B6CB46883@anarchie.org.uk> <6D169231-0AA4-432E-95E7-B5AB18357A23@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <0FDF65C5-044C-4C33-BBA1-E63D5EBAC101@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Paul, You can find the VoiceOver On podcast in iTunes. Cheers, Anne On 22 Jul 2011, at 18:48, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello Anne, > Many thanks for that. Where Do I find the podcast you refer to on how to use Pages and Keynote with VoiceOver? > Many thanks. > > Paul > On 22 Jul 2011, at 17:32, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Paul, >> >> To show the styles drawer, press Cmd-Shift-T. You then have to stop interacting with everything and navigate left or press VO-Cmd-T or VO-Cmd-Shift-T to find the next or previous table, depending on where you are in the window. You'll then find 3 tables: paragraph styles, character styles and list styles. >> >> To get an idea of how to use Pages, listen to the VoiceOver On podcast dealing with Pages and Keynote. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:03, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I am about to create my first substantial document using Pages on Lion. In the past I used Microsoft WOrd a lot on Windows. I used to make extensive use of the built-in WOrd styles which had names like heading 1, heading 2, heading 3, body text, numbered list 1 and so on. I was rather hoping to find a similar set of pre-defined named styles in Pages but if present they are well hidden! >>> >>> So does Pages offer a set of standard styles which I can use to create documents? If so how do I find them. If not what do you do instead? >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 18:00:31 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:00:31 +0200 Subject: making lion disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <59F75374-81B6-44D4-BB21-1E73C70B8B69@gmail.com> Hello Mark, I just went ahead and did it, so I can certainly confirm that it works. the disk image takes a while to read when booting from it, but I'm sure there's reason for that given its 3.74GB size. However, you do have access to all the utilities such as online help, Time Machine Restore, Reinstall Mac OS X and lastly, Disk Utility. I'm guessing that if booting off of the DVD, it'd just use the disk image to install Lion when clicking Reinstall, in order to get a clean installation if you wipe your drive first. 1) Locate the Install Mac OS X Lion.app file in your Applications folder. You can get here by hitting Command-Shift-A from the Finder. 2) When you find the file, press Vo-Shift-M. This brings up the contextual menu, which is essentially a right click. 3) Select "Show Package Contents." 4) Open up the Contents folder, then "SharedSupport." Find the file called InstallESD.dmg, which should be the first file which has focus when arrowing down, then hit Command-C. 5) Go to the desktop or any other directory, then hit Command-V to paste the disk image. I prefer to paste it when mounting it, just to ensure I don't damage the original. Hit Command-O to mount it. Mac OS X will verify the disk image. 6) Now, open up Disk Utility when the image is mounted. To get to the Utilities folder quickly, hit Command-Shift-U from the Finder then hit D I S, then open Disk Utility. 7) In the table containing your disks, move down. You can either interact with the table with VO-Down arrow, or use the down arrow key until you get to InstallESD:dmg. 8) When on the disk image, pop in a blank DVD. Hit VO-Home on your keyboard to get to the toolbar. The home key is usually FN-left arrow, so that translates to FN-VO-Left arrow. Interact with the toolbar, then VO-right until you get to "Burn" and select the appropriate options for your disk. That should be all. Good luck, and I hope it works out well for you. Remember that, in order to boot off of a DVD, you hold down the C key for several secondswhen hearing the startup chime. Regards, Nic On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Mark Furness wrote: > I have 2 post on how to do this. But, my brain can not comprehend them > > One, I do not know how to do a right click. > Nor, could I follow where the "DMG" file is located. > > Would some kind person take pity on me and lead me through the process, before I download Lion? > > Thank you for all your help! > > Mark. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Jul 22 18:01:07 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:01:07 +0200 Subject: Bulleted and Numberedlists in pages In-Reply-To: <53AE3A4A-0DB7-404C-A346-5999EB795177@hopewell.org.uk> References: <53AE3A4A-0DB7-404C-A346-5999EB795177@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <252E8419-706A-4BE4-A22C-F59876FC36E4@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Paul, To check on any dynamic text that's inaccessible to VoiceOver in Pages, create a shortcut for the Services menu option for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection", and the hidden text will show up in TextEdit. As for having VoiceOver tell you when there is a style change, this is not currently possible. However, you can check on the style by setting hotspots on the style tables and using the "Describe item at hotspot" commands. Cheers, Anne On 22 Jul 2011, at 18:43, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I am using Pages on Lion with VoiceOver and need to create numbered and bulleted lists. I followed the instructions in the help i.e. set automatic lists on in preferences, type say 1 followed by period and space and then the list item which might span several lines. then press return and type the second list item and so on. to terminate the list press return twice. > > When I do this the numbers of the list items do not appear in the document and I am thus not sure what has happened. Similarly when I try a bulleted list the bullets do not appear. Is there any way to check that the numbers and bullets are really there? Also if I check the cursor offset when it is positioned on the first character of each line it seems that pressing return twice does not exit the list. > > So do numbered and bulleted lists really work as advertised in Pages on Lion? Ideally I would prefer to use styles from the styles drawer to create lists and headings and so on in my document and ideally have VoiceOver speak the current style whenever that style changes as you arrow around your document. However I could not get this to work. > > I would thus appreciate any tips on creating Pages documents with headings and lists using VoiceOver. > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 18:02:16 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:02:16 +0200 Subject: Alex voice question In-Reply-To: <86154D7E-EFD7-4C87-945F-360809CF2A44@gmail.com> References: <86154D7E-EFD7-4C87-945F-360809CF2A44@gmail.com> Message-ID: <17D25919-15CB-4D25-ACE9-D530AD0C538B@gmail.com> Hi! I don't hear any compression problems, either. The buzzing sound I do have, but he's just a clear even when that's the case. But, I don't continuously hear the buzzing undertone, only in certain instances. Although, admittedly, it is a lot better than the first build ever, so at least, they tried to make it better and it is. Regards, Nic On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I don't notice the sluggishness. I'm running him now under mail and ht's as fast as ever, maybe a bit faster. I don't hear the compression issues but I do notice he pronounces things correctly now. yes ! > On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:46 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> I wish it were a higher quality. >> >> Alex sounds different and worse in Lion. It's hard to describe, but it sounds like it is more compressed than the older version. It has this kind of buzzing undertone that didn't used to be there. >> >> Also, it is slower, but that is probably VoiceOver. Typing with keyboard echo set to character is extremely slow. Arrowing in documents seems somewhat slower than it used to be. >> >> The Nuance voices are extremely fast. They'd be great, except for the qwerky pronunciation issues, and the bug that causes the pitch to occasionally jump or fall in the middle of sentences. >> >> Bryan >> >> On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Jim, >>> >>> Alex can't be downloaded, it's the same one. I don't see how it could be higher quality, since nothing is wrong here. Please be a bit more elaborate, possibly provide audio links of some sort. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks: >>>> >>>> Is the Alex default voice the same Alex as the one that can be downloaded in the customize options or is that selection a higher quality? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6311 (20110720) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 18:08:55 2011 From: skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com (Kliph&Sharrie) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:08:55 -0500 Subject: YoruFukurou Twitter Client In-Reply-To: <1A4C5E9F-14E6-4C5E-84F8-D4D585998297@gmail.com> References: <1A4C5E9F-14E6-4C5E-84F8-D4D585998297@gmail.com> Message-ID: <88B7E839-50E3-4FD7-BB7B-DBB0991B94C1@gmail.com> I tried this client and just couldn't get it. Where can I find documentation on this, for like keystrokes, how to load lists and things? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yeh i'm using it now and it works very good! Iv'e been using it now for about 7 or so months and the devs are wonderful at working out solutes for accessibility. They even say that in app updates that voice over support has been added. > > Take care. > On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:41 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> This is a very nice client indeed! and works particularly well under OSX Lin, very fast and responsive so Syrinx - as good as it is - is now defined to history as far as I'm concerned and YoruFukurou has taken its place, has a whole heap of extra options included like the ability to shorten URLS etc, its fee so check it out. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 19:12:00 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:12:00 -0700 Subject: YoruFukurou Twitter Client In-Reply-To: <88B7E839-50E3-4FD7-BB7B-DBB0991B94C1@gmail.com> References: <1A4C5E9F-14E6-4C5E-84F8-D4D585998297@gmail.com> <88B7E839-50E3-4FD7-BB7B-DBB0991B94C1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45D7490A-08EB-4FBC-8A2C-7BF94FF215C6@gmail.com> You find the documentation i the help menu. there is no exceeded documentation but you just look through the menus and just memorize the keystrokes. Take care. On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > I tried this client and just couldn't get it. Where can I find documentation on this, for like keystrokes, how to load lists and things? > Kliphton SR > (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com > Sent from my IMac > > On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Yeh i'm using it now and it works very good! Iv'e been using it now for about 7 or so months and the devs are wonderful at working out solutes for accessibility. They even say that in app updates that voice over support has been added. >> >> Take care. >> On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:41 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> This is a very nice client indeed! and works particularly well under OSX Lin, very fast and responsive so Syrinx - as good as it is - is now defined to history as far as I'm concerned and YoruFukurou has taken its place, has a whole heap of extra options included like the ability to shorten URLS etc, its fee so check it out. >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From mfurness at bell.net Fri Jul 22 19:13:39 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:13:39 -0400 Subject: Nic thank you: Re: making lion disk In-Reply-To: <59F75374-81B6-44D4-BB21-1E73C70B8B69@gmail.com> References: <59F75374-81B6-44D4-BB21-1E73C70B8B69@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well explained! As I accomplish this task, I will learn several new things about the Mac. Example, vo plus shift n is basically a right click. Mark On 2011-07-22, at 1:00 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Mark, > > I just went ahead and did it, so I can certainly confirm that it works. the disk image takes a while to read when booting from it, but I'm sure there's reason for that given its 3.74GB size. However, you do have access to all the utilities such as online help, Time Machine Restore, Reinstall Mac OS X and lastly, Disk Utility. I'm guessing that if booting off of the DVD, it'd just use the disk image to install Lion when clicking Reinstall, in order to get a clean installation if you wipe your drive first. > > 1) Locate the Install Mac OS X Lion.app file in your Applications folder. You can get here by hitting Command-Shift-A from the Finder. > 2) When you find the file, press Vo-Shift-M. This brings up the contextual menu, which is essentially a right click. > 3) Select "Show Package Contents." > 4) Open up the Contents folder, then "SharedSupport." Find the file called InstallESD.dmg, which should be the first file which has focus when arrowing down, then hit Command-C. > 5) Go to the desktop or any other directory, then hit Command-V to paste the disk image. I prefer to paste it when mounting it, just to ensure I don't damage the original. Hit Command-O to mount it. Mac OS X will verify the disk image. > 6) Now, open up Disk Utility when the image is mounted. To get to the Utilities folder quickly, hit Command-Shift-U from the Finder then hit D I S, then open Disk Utility. > 7) In the table containing your disks, move down. You can either interact with the table with VO-Down arrow, or use the down arrow key until you get to InstallESD:dmg. > 8) When on the disk image, pop in a blank DVD. Hit VO-Home on your keyboard to get to the toolbar. The home key is usually FN-left arrow, so that translates to FN-VO-Left arrow. Interact with the toolbar, then VO-right until you get to "Burn" and select the appropriate options for your disk. > > That should be all. Good luck, and I hope it works out well for you. Remember that, in order to boot off of a DVD, you hold down the C key for several secondswhen hearing the startup chime. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Mark Furness wrote: > >> I have 2 post on how to do this. But, my brain can not comprehend them >> >> One, I do not know how to do a right click. >> Nor, could I follow where the "DMG" file is located. >> >> Would some kind person take pity on me and lead me through the process, before I download Lion? >> >> Thank you for all your help! >> >> Mark. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 19:14:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:14:48 -0700 Subject: making lion disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DA005A5-0489-470F-B534-848B47A08A01@gmail.com> lol. ? control click or vo shift m on the app ?go t show package contents ?go to the shared support folder under contents. ?now go to the installest.dmg file. and copy it some ware else. ?Now go to the disk utility and choose to burnthe dmg to a dvd. good luck. On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Mark Furness wrote: > I have 2 post on how to do this. But, my brain can not comprehend them > > One, I do not know how to do a right click. > Nor, could I follow where the "DMG" file is located. > > Would some kind person take pity on me and lead me through the process, before I download Lion? > > Thank you for all your help! > > Mark. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jul 22 19:46:54 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:46:54 -0300 Subject: Nic thank you: Re: making lion disk In-Reply-To: References: <59F75374-81B6-44D4-BB21-1E73C70B8B69@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D2DA3BA7CCA4667B9D6034EB75D7993@MainComputer> Hi Folks: I must be missing something here. I can't find the "Install Mac OS X Lion.app? in my application list. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Furness" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:13 PM Subject: Nic thank you: Re: making lion disk > Well explained! As I accomplish this task, I will learn several new things > about the Mac. Example, vo plus shift n is basically a right click. > > Mark > On 2011-07-22, at 1:00 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hello Mark, >> >> I just went ahead and did it, so I can certainly confirm that it works. >> the disk image takes a while to read when booting from it, but I'm sure >> there's reason for that given its 3.74GB size. However, you do have >> access to all the utilities such as online help, Time Machine Restore, >> Reinstall Mac OS X and lastly, Disk Utility. I'm guessing that if booting >> off of the DVD, it'd just use the disk image to install Lion when >> clicking Reinstall, in order to get a clean installation if you wipe your >> drive first. >> >> 1) Locate the Install Mac OS X Lion.app file in your Applications folder. >> You can get here by hitting Command-Shift-A from the Finder. >> 2) When you find the file, press Vo-Shift-M. This brings up the >> contextual menu, which is essentially a right click. >> 3) Select "Show Package Contents." >> 4) Open up the Contents folder, then "SharedSupport." Find the file >> called InstallESD.dmg, which should be the first file which has focus >> when arrowing down, then hit Command-C. >> 5) Go to the desktop or any other directory, then hit Command-V to paste >> the disk image. I prefer to paste it when mounting it, just to ensure I >> don't damage the original. Hit Command-O to mount it. Mac OS X will >> verify the disk image. >> 6) Now, open up Disk Utility when the image is mounted. To get to the >> Utilities folder quickly, hit Command-Shift-U from the Finder then hit D >> I S, then open Disk Utility. >> 7) In the table containing your disks, move down. You can either interact >> with the table with VO-Down arrow, or use the down arrow key until you >> get to InstallESD:dmg. >> 8) When on the disk image, pop in a blank DVD. Hit VO-Home on your >> keyboard to get to the toolbar. The home key is usually FN-left arrow, so >> that translates to FN-VO-Left arrow. Interact with the toolbar, then >> VO-right until you get to "Burn" and select the appropriate options for >> your disk. >> >> That should be all. Good luck, and I hope it works out well for you. >> Remember that, in order to boot off of a DVD, you hold down the C key for >> several secondswhen hearing the startup chime. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Mark Furness wrote: >> >>> I have 2 post on how to do this. But, my brain can not comprehend them >>> >>> One, I do not know how to do a right click. >>> Nor, could I follow where the "DMG" file is located. >>> >>> Would some kind person take pity on me and lead me through the process, >>> before I download Lion? >>> >>> Thank you for all your help! >>> >>> Mark. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6317 (20110722) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6317 (20110722) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From ian456 at me.com Fri Jul 22 19:53:03 2011 From: ian456 at me.com (Ian Robinson) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:53:03 +0100 Subject: Nic thank you: Re: making lion disk In-Reply-To: References: <59F75374-81B6-44D4-BB21-1E73C70B8B69@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark, Not sure if you misunderstood the command or just made a typing error, but it should be VO Shift m for mike, not VO Shift n for november. HTH. Ian On 22 Jul 2011, at 19:13, Mark Furness wrote: > Well explained! As I accomplish this task, I will learn several new things about the Mac. Example, vo plus shift n is basically a right click. > > Mark > On 2011-07-22, at 1:00 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hello Mark, >> >> I just went ahead and did it, so I can certainly confirm that it works. the disk image takes a while to read when booting from it, but I'm sure there's reason for that given its 3.74GB size. However, you do have access to all the utilities such as online help, Time Machine Restore, Reinstall Mac OS X and lastly, Disk Utility. I'm guessing that if booting off of the DVD, it'd just use the disk image to install Lion when clicking Reinstall, in order to get a clean installation if you wipe your drive first. >> >> 1) Locate the Install Mac OS X Lion.app file in your Applications folder. You can get here by hitting Command-Shift-A from the Finder. >> 2) When you find the file, press Vo-Shift-M. This brings up the contextual menu, which is essentially a right click. >> 3) Select "Show Package Contents." >> 4) Open up the Contents folder, then "SharedSupport." Find the file called InstallESD.dmg, which should be the first file which has focus when arrowing down, then hit Command-C. >> 5) Go to the desktop or any other directory, then hit Command-V to paste the disk image. I prefer to paste it when mounting it, just to ensure I don't damage the original. Hit Command-O to mount it. Mac OS X will verify the disk image. >> 6) Now, open up Disk Utility when the image is mounted. To get to the Utilities folder quickly, hit Command-Shift-U from the Finder then hit D I S, then open Disk Utility. >> 7) In the table containing your disks, move down. You can either interact with the table with VO-Down arrow, or use the down arrow key until you get to InstallESD:dmg. >> 8) When on the disk image, pop in a blank DVD. Hit VO-Home on your keyboard to get to the toolbar. The home key is usually FN-left arrow, so that translates to FN-VO-Left arrow. Interact with the toolbar, then VO-right until you get to "Burn" and select the appropriate options for your disk. >> >> That should be all. Good luck, and I hope it works out well for you. Remember that, in order to boot off of a DVD, you hold down the C key for several secondswhen hearing the startup chime. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Mark Furness wrote: >> >>> I have 2 post on how to do this. But, my brain can not comprehend them >>> >>> One, I do not know how to do a right click. >>> Nor, could I follow where the "DMG" file is located. >>> >>> Would some kind person take pity on me and lead me through the process, before I download Lion? >>> >>> Thank you for all your help! >>> >>> Mark. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Fri Jul 22 19:58:58 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:58:58 -0400 Subject: Alex voice question In-Reply-To: <17D25919-15CB-4D25-ACE9-D530AD0C538B@gmail.com> References: <86154D7E-EFD7-4C87-945F-360809CF2A44@gmail.com> <17D25919-15CB-4D25-ACE9-D530AD0C538B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello All, After restarting from the Lion install, my first thought was Alex had had a rough night or was getting over a head cold. I definitely detect some new gravel in his voice and he seems a bit slower to keep up when I'm navigating by word or character in various applications. Wondering if there's a correlation between hardware specs and Lion performance, I'd be interested to hear model, cpu & ram folks are running on, particularly from folks who might be running Lion on more than one machine. Are you noticing any differences in performance between the machines? I'm on a late 2010 MBA, 1.6 C2D CPU, 4GB RAM. I'd also say I am hearing my fan run a lot more, but it's quite warm here today so I'll hold off on that judgement for now. . Cheers, Bryan On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > I don't hear any compression problems, either. The buzzing sound I do have, but he's just a clear even when that's the case. But, I don't continuously hear the buzzing undertone, only in certain instances. Although, admittedly, it is a lot better than the first build ever, so at least, they tried to make it better and it is. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 20:03:35 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:03:35 +0200 Subject: Nic thank you: Re: making lion disk In-Reply-To: <5D2DA3BA7CCA4667B9D6034EB75D7993@MainComputer> References: <59F75374-81B6-44D4-BB21-1E73C70B8B69@gmail.com> <5D2DA3BA7CCA4667B9D6034EB75D7993@MainComputer> Message-ID: <21F39079-F415-42F3-95EC-87782C8AE215@gmail.com> Hi Jim, That is one thing that slipped my mind. When you upgrade or cleanly install Mac OS X 10.7, Lion, the installer wipes the disk image off of your Mac. In this case, if you wish to use it multiple times, either burn it to a disk or copy the file to external media before performing the installation or, if you are currently running Mac OS X 10.7, Lion, go to the App Store from either the dock or your Applications folder. Next, hit Command-4 to select "Purchased," then move to the "Purchases" table when the page has loaded and located OS X Lion. When located, VO-Right to the cell which contains the "Installed" button. Clicking on it prompts you to enter your password, and the download proceeds all over again. Regards, Nic On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I must be missing something here. > > I can't find the "Install Mac OS X Lion.app? in my application list. > > Cheers. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Furness" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:13 PM > Subject: Nic thank you: Re: making lion disk > > >> Well explained! As I accomplish this task, I will learn several new things about the Mac. Example, vo plus shift n is basically a right click. >> >> Mark >> On 2011-07-22, at 1:00 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hello Mark, >>> >>> I just went ahead and did it, so I can certainly confirm that it works. the disk image takes a while to read when booting from it, but I'm sure there's reason for that given its 3.74GB size. However, you do have access to all the utilities such as online help, Time Machine Restore, Reinstall Mac OS X and lastly, Disk Utility. I'm guessing that if booting off of the DVD, it'd just use the disk image to install Lion when clicking Reinstall, in order to get a clean installation if you wipe your drive first. >>> >>> 1) Locate the Install Mac OS X Lion.app file in your Applications folder. You can get here by hitting Command-Shift-A from the Finder. >>> 2) When you find the file, press Vo-Shift-M. This brings up the contextual menu, which is essentially a right click. >>> 3) Select "Show Package Contents." >>> 4) Open up the Contents folder, then "SharedSupport." Find the file called InstallESD.dmg, which should be the first file which has focus when arrowing down, then hit Command-C. >>> 5) Go to the desktop or any other directory, then hit Command-V to paste the disk image. I prefer to paste it when mounting it, just to ensure I don't damage the original. Hit Command-O to mount it. Mac OS X will verify the disk image. >>> 6) Now, open up Disk Utility when the image is mounted. To get to the Utilities folder quickly, hit Command-Shift-U from the Finder then hit D I S, then open Disk Utility. >>> 7) In the table containing your disks, move down. You can either interact with the table with VO-Down arrow, or use the down arrow key until you get to InstallESD:dmg. >>> 8) When on the disk image, pop in a blank DVD. Hit VO-Home on your keyboard to get to the toolbar. The home key is usually FN-left arrow, so that translates to FN-VO-Left arrow. Interact with the toolbar, then VO-right until you get to "Burn" and select the appropriate options for your disk. >>> >>> That should be all. Good luck, and I hope it works out well for you. Remember that, in order to boot off of a DVD, you hold down the C key for several secondswhen hearing the startup chime. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Mark Furness wrote: >>> >>>> I have 2 post on how to do this. But, my brain can not comprehend them >>>> >>>> One, I do not know how to do a right click. >>>> Nor, could I follow where the "DMG" file is located. >>>> >>>> Would some kind person take pity on me and lead me through the process, before I download Lion? >>>> >>>> Thank you for all your help! >>>> >>>> Mark. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6317 (20110722) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6317 (20110722) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 20:08:54 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:08:54 -0700 Subject: Alex voice question In-Reply-To: References: <86154D7E-EFD7-4C87-945F-360809CF2A44@gmail.com> <17D25919-15CB-4D25-ACE9-D530AD0C538B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <774E2275-D3E3-491A-A294-68542AD636F9@gmail.com> lol. don't forget your drive is being indexed for a few hours so I'd leave it alone. I'ts also stifling here but my fan has been quiet. I like alex and use it for mail. take care. On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello All, > > After restarting from the Lion install, my first thought was Alex had had a rough night or was getting over a head cold. I definitely detect some new gravel in his voice and he seems a bit slower to keep up when I'm navigating by word or character in various applications. Wondering if there's a correlation between hardware specs and Lion performance, I'd be interested to hear model, cpu & ram folks are running on, particularly from folks who might be running Lion on more than one machine. Are you noticing any differences in performance between the machines? I'm on a late 2010 MBA, 1.6 C2D CPU, 4GB RAM. I'd also say I am hearing my fan run a lot more, but it's quite warm here today so I'll hold off on that judgement for now. . > > Cheers, > Bryan > > On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> I don't hear any compression problems, either. The buzzing sound I do have, but he's just a clear even when that's the case. But, I don't continuously hear the buzzing undertone, only in certain instances. Although, admittedly, it is a lot better than the first build ever, so at least, they tried to make it better and it is. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 21:13:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:13:27 -0700 Subject: my first impressions podcast is up on tffp Message-ID: <5117B60C-0C9E-49B9-B799-0B91E9F4C654@gmail.com> Well all my first impressions on lion is up on tffp I'm still learning how to do things so mistakes will be made along the way.. After clicking on the link go to the download link which will be labeled funny and control click on it or vo shift m on it. link: http://www.podbean.com/podcast-download?b=200745&f=http://marrie.podbean.com/mf/web/4tdchc/lion_first_empressions_podcast.mp3 Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 22:15:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:15:19 -0700 Subject: an update on ntfs3g Message-ID: <3BAF2DDB-0ED8-4797-BFA4-955F0AEA2F7C@gmail.com> Well I tried to install the apr 10th update but it said no compiler found under C$$. Ok? I'm on a mac. Anyway here is the link to the software. http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/ If anyone can give me a hand at this compile ting Id' be happy. the trouble starts when I run the ./config command. Thanks. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From weavermicha at googlemail.com Fri Jul 22 23:28:16 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:28:16 +0100 Subject: some lion issues Message-ID: <4e29f96b.4eead80a.459e.ffff87bf@mx.google.com> i just installed lion and i have one or two issues which i don't know if anybody else has noticed. when my macbook boots, i appear to get messages such as "speech server" or some website for apple and it seems to cause a problem focusing on my destop so for example if i try to do vo plus d to try and get to my doc, it doesn't appear to activate first time and i either have to do the command again or i have to press escape and then do it again before voiceover decides to read the items on the doc. this problem where i get messages read out when booting my macbook also appears to affect other dialogues such as when i go to shutdown and i cannot seem to always read the dialogue for the choices even when using vo and the left and right arrow keys. has anyone else had these issues after upgrading from snow leopard? i am wondering if my problem might be due to something i have changed in preferences for speech, some box which i may have checked or unchecked which is causing these focusing issues. i also notice that the voice changes for prompts when shutting down when i am asked if i want to shut down even if i am unable to see the buttons for the choices. not relating to any of these issues does anyone know how to cancel the screen lock? when setting my macbook to prompt me for my password for my account, i somehow inadvertently set the password for the screensaver so after leaving my macbook for just a short time, i am prompted to type my password which is a bit of a pain if for example i am on skype and i don't do any other task on my computer. From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Fri Jul 22 23:44:06 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:44:06 +1000 Subject: some lion issues In-Reply-To: <4e29f96b.4eead80a.459e.ffff87bf@mx.google.com> References: <4e29f96b.4eead80a.459e.ffff87bf@mx.google.com> Message-ID: no sorry i am not having these issues with my mac book pro i hope you can solve them people on this list are very helpfu and i am sure they will help where ever they can On 23/07/2011, at 8:28 AM, michael weaver wrote: > i just installed lion and i have one or two issues which i don't know if anybody else has noticed. > when my macbook boots, i appear to get messages such as "speech server" or some website for apple and it seems to cause a problem focusing on my destop so for example if i try to do vo plus d to try and get to my doc, it doesn't appear to activate first time and i either have to do the command again or i have to press escape and then do it again before voiceover decides to read the items on the doc. > this problem where i get messages read out when booting my macbook also appears to affect other dialogues such as when i go to shutdown and i cannot seem to always read the dialogue for the choices even when using vo and the left and right arrow keys. > has anyone else had these issues after upgrading from snow leopard? > i am wondering if my problem might be due to something i have changed in preferences for speech, some box which i may have checked or unchecked which is causing these focusing issues. > i also notice that the voice changes for prompts when shutting down when i am asked if i want to shut down even if i am unable to see the buttons for the choices. > not relating to any of these issues does anyone know how to cancel the screen lock? > when setting my macbook to prompt me for my password for my account, i somehow inadvertently set the password for the screensaver so after leaving my macbook for just a short time, i am prompted to type my password which is a bit of a pain if for example i am on skype and i don't do any other task on my computer. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 23:52:05 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:52:05 -0400 Subject: Magic Trackpad In-Reply-To: References: <75ECB8B4-3CBA-46C2-84F3-CC33C2834DD0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4e29ff1e.8c07e50a.2eb7.6e62@mx.google.com> You still have to turn the trackpad commander on. It can be used in apps other than Safari. At 05:15 AM 7/22/2011, you wrote: >Hello Lynne, > >Apart from the additional choices in the rotor, the gestures used by >the Trackpad Commander are the same everywhere. However, you can add >your own gestures by going to VoiceOver Utility and selecting the >Commanders category. Select Trackpad and click on Assign Commands. >There you'll find a table of existing gestures. > >You can also try out gestures by turning on Keyboard Help. It's a >great way to learn to get them right. > >Cheers, > >Anne > > >On 22 Jul 2011, at 09:30, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > > > Hello everybodyh > > > > I have a question as we are expecting a pair of Magic Trackpads > soon. Forgive my ignorance; I'n not a full--tile Voiceover user. > When you read web pages with the Trackpad do you have to turn on > Trackpad Commander on the Mac? Or does VoiceOver somehow detect the > website and just work without it? Where can I find a list of > web-related gestures for VoiceOver? I'd like to see Gordon get his > head around this at last because he's more or less all keyboard but > in order to teach he'll need to know how to use the Trackpad properly. > > > > Lynne > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Fri Jul 22 23:58:57 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:58:57 +1000 Subject: Latest Itunes. In-Reply-To: <10E3128D-24AF-4F98-B2FB-C8513656920E@mac-access.net> References: <5796D404-4623-43A5-8244-7178C9C969EF@me.com> <10E3128D-24AF-4F98-B2FB-C8513656920E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I just used the accessibility at apple.com address to send it through. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 22/07/2011, at 11:07 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Christopher, > What address did you use to get in touch with Apple? > > Thanks > TC :) > James > On 22 Jul 2011, at 14:01, Christopher Sims wrote: > >> Thanks for Verifying this. I've just posted to apple reporting the issue. >> >> For the information, of list members, I'll copy the text of the message below. >> >> Hi. I'm a voiceover user. I've downloaded the new Itunes , and I'm having problems when I access Itunes. The problem takes the form that previously I could navigate the tables listing available media types, and Itunes store with no problems. >> >> Now when I attempt to do the same thing after updating to 10.4, I have to interact with the tables so that I can hear my results. I'm currently running 10.6.8 version, however, I'll be getting Lion very shortly. Please advise if this is fixed in the Lion version of 10.4? Thanks. >> Christopher Sims e: cjsims at internode.net.au Phone: H 0396505646 Phone M: 0418558275 Skype cjsims3000 >> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >> >> On 22/07/2011, at 10:52 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Christopher, >>> >>> Yes, unfortunately, many of us have discovered a number of issues with the new ITunes. If you search the archives, you'll find a number of discussions on this. >>> >>> TC :) >>> James >>> On 22 Jul 2011, at 13:27, Christopher Sims wrote: >>> >>>> Hi to the list. Have downloaded Itunes and now I notice that things are broken. I can no longer navigate with in the podcasts table for example with out interacting with it. Anyone else finding this? >>>> Christopher Sims e: cjsims at internode.net.au Phone: H 0396505646 Phone M: 0418558275 Skype cjsims3000 >>>> >>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Sat Jul 23 00:02:19 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:02:19 +1000 Subject: Autor Correction and writing URLS on Ipad In-Reply-To: <18202DC5-0342-4888-B076-108E7F122483@internode.on.net> References: <5C5520B3-0612-4503-B99A-B72033F949BA@me.com> <18202DC5-0342-4888-B076-108E7F122483@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Yes that's rite, I believe that you may need to ensure that the roter is set rite, when your informed of an auto correction, you also have an extra setting in the roter to allow you to cancel it. when you swipe down, you need to cancel the auto correction by doubletapping on it. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 22/07/2011, at 11:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Yep Point taken, you swipe down for that is this correct? > > Odd, I've never seen this effect before, I've typed URLS into email messages countless times using Ipad. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 22/07/2011, at 9:46 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: > >> I'm not an Ipad owner, however, what about using the jesture to cancel the auto correction? >> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >> >> On 22/07/2011, at 5:15 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Howdy! >>> >>> I'm trying to compose an email to someone on my Ipad and I want to include an URL but every time I write this the "Auto Correction" feature of Ipad steps in and changes the URL by inserting a space into the URL in order to correct what it thinks is a miss-spelling, does anyone have any way I can get around this problem? >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 00:04:35 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:04:35 +0200 Subject: Bugs in Lion Message-ID: <32B3F745-0660-4D40-9130-FE79476BBCE6@gmail.com> Hi! I'm curious to know if anyone has found any workarounds for bugs in Lion, such as the more severe ones. I originally wanted to ask if anyone had found bugs to really watch out for just in case, but there was one bug in particular I remember bothered some people. It concerned detection of web elements, or rather, being able to navigate them using the rotor or web element commands. It seems that, when using the Nightly buds of Webkit recently being made available for Lion, using this latest engine has fixed that particular bug. At least, that is what I'm experiencing. Would anyone be able to confirm this? I may be wrong, and despite only mentioning this bug right now in this post, I'm curious if anyone's found any actual showstoppers. Thank you. Regards, Nic From cjsims at me.com Sat Jul 23 00:04:00 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:04:00 +1000 Subject: What's new in Lion podcasts from Vision Australia In-Reply-To: <191BCC71-68C5-49A6-BE6E-9CBE80F2C4E3@gmail.com> References: <191BCC71-68C5-49A6-BE6E-9CBE80F2C4E3@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm already subscribed to that, looking forward to it. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 23/07/2011, at 2:34 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > lol. it's done and edited but I needed to reboot my brain last night. All y'all who want copy please subscribe to http://marrie.podbean.com/feed > > Take care > On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:21 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: > >> Looking forward to your lion podcast. >> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >> >> On 22/07/2011, at 10:15 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> OOO! Thanks for this. I have my first impressions podcast done buti need to edit as I had lunch and left the recorder running while I went to eat. lol! I'm liking lion. Mail is a bit slow but I will check this out. Maybe I can learn a thing or 2 and demo it in my own style. >>> >>> Again, thanks for this. >>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> For those of you wanting to sample a number of podcasts demonstrating new features and new voices in Lion for VoiceOver users, there are a nice set of podcasts that Vision Australia has released. You can subscribe to the series through iTunes: >>>> ? Apple and Other Accessible technology By David Woodbridge >>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-accessibility/id423121261 >>>> or you can go to the PodBean web site: >>>> http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/ >>>> or check out the RSS feed and download the individual episodes: >>>> feed://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/feed/ >>>> >>>> If you're using an iOS app like Podcaster, you can go to the "Directory" button (4th of 5) on the bottom of the main screen, double tap, then on the "Podcast Directory" screen navigate to "Import" and double tap. In the text field type or paste in the above RSS feed address (remembering to delete the initial "http://"). >>>> >>>> Titles of episodes: >>>> ? What Is New In Lion And VoiceOver >>>> ? Using Launchpad in Lion With VoiceOver >>>> ? Using Mission Control In Lion with VoiceOver >>>> ? Lion Premium Voices demo - Man From Snowy River >>>> ? Downloading Premium Voices for VoiceOver In Lion >>>> ? Lion system volume and VoiceOver volume >>>> ? Using VoiceOver Activities in Lion >>>> ? Letter navigation in Lion Safari with VoiceOver >>>> ? Lion Premium english voices demo >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 00:24:17 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:24:17 -0400 Subject: BRAILLE SUPPORT IN LION Message-ID: HAS LION IMPROVED THE SUPPORT FOR BRAILE? I WAS HOPING FOR THAT, BUT WONDERED IF ANYONE HAS TRIED IT. THANKS. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sat Jul 23 00:25:52 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:25:52 +0100 Subject: Iphone bluetooth keyboard questions Message-ID: <2D435930-4B6F-4C1B-818B-7597CD48492C@virginmedia.com> Hi all! So I've finally joined the Iphone crowd! I've had a little play with connecting my Apple keyboard with the Iphone and it works great! So to my question! Is there a way to get back to the home screen with the keyboard, the only way I've found so far is to use the home button on the Iphone! And the other question is are any of you using a Freedom i-Connex Mini Bluetooth Keyboard - White with your Iphone and if so does it work ok with vo? Any suggestions welcome! Colin From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jul 23 00:38:08 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:38:08 +1000 Subject: Iphone bluetooth keyboard questions In-Reply-To: <2D435930-4B6F-4C1B-818B-7597CD48492C@virginmedia.com> References: <2D435930-4B6F-4C1B-818B-7597CD48492C@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <4E2A09E0.8010902@internode.on.net> Yep! press ctrl-option-h, that takes you back to the home screen. On 23/07/2011 9:25 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi all! > So I've finally joined the Iphone crowd! > I've had a little play with connecting my Apple keyboard with the Iphone and it works great! > So to my question! > Is there a way to get back to the home screen with the keyboard, the only way I've found so far is to use the home button on the Iphone! > And the other question is are any of you using a Freedom i-Connex Mini Bluetooth Keyboard - White with your Iphone and if so does it work ok with vo? > Any suggestions welcome! > Colin > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sat Jul 23 01:17:49 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:17:49 +0100 Subject: Iphone bluetooth keyboard questions In-Reply-To: <4E2A09E0.8010902@internode.on.net> References: <2D435930-4B6F-4C1B-818B-7597CD48492C@virginmedia.com> <4E2A09E0.8010902@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hi Dane! Thanks for that! I did try command+shift+h but of course that did not work! Colin On 23 Jul 2011, at 00:38, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Yep! press ctrl-option-h, that takes you back to the home screen. > > > > On 23/07/2011 9:25 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: >> Hi all! >> So I've finally joined the Iphone crowd! >> I've had a little play with connecting my Apple keyboard with the Iphone and it works great! >> So to my question! >> Is there a way to get back to the home screen with the keyboard, the only way I've found so far is to use the home button on the Iphone! >> And the other question is are any of you using a Freedom i-Connex Mini Bluetooth Keyboard - White with your Iphone and if so does it work ok with vo? >> Any suggestions welcome! >> Colin >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > skype callto:grtdane12 > MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 03:49:37 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:49:37 -0400 Subject: Restoring iTunes library to Lion? Message-ID: <1290080808C64FA7BEB1AAADE900FB54@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Greetings all, While using SnowLeopard, I backed up my iTunes library to an external drive and installed Lion via a DVD (HD was completely erased). I then pulled for updates which sadly installed iTunes 10.4. Upon launching iTunes, it did not prompt for a library. I attempted to copy my backed up folder into /users/userName/music/iTunes/"iTunes Media", but receive a message indicating that I do not have access to the hard drive and if I proceed the data won't be visible.(???) I went into disk utility and repaired my permissions but that did not vary the result. I was able to successfully copy my library into .../music. Under iTunes advanced preferences I set the folder to .../music/BackedUpFolder but my content is not visible. I only have the getting started videos and options to search for or purchase music. I could search my external drive, but that would not restore my iPhone content? I seem to recall being able to restore a library from Windows to SnowLeopard this way using an earlier version of iTunes, so perhaps I'm over looking a step? Also strange that I don't have permission to access that folder despite having administrative privileges and the fact that parental controls are disabled? TIA for any suggestions and best regards. Geoff From support at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 06:58:52 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:58:52 +0100 Subject: Status Message-ID: <068CB88F-91B5-4D96-892C-E30EAD09F2DA@mac-access.net> Hello everybody A couple of things here. Firstly please be a little patient with me at the moment if you're awaiting support requests. I know it must be frustrating at times; but there's no need to become abusive, as one member has just done. Gordon is in hospital overnight again and I have been somewhat distracted over the last 18 hours or so. Hence the lack of support; I apologise for any inconvenience. Those of you waiting to buy books, please don't give up on me; I am doing my best, under difficult circumstances. Your requests are important to us, and I will do as much as I can but be mindful that I'm working under difficult circumstances just at this moment. Hopefully things will be easier later today; but the member who took it upon himself to become abusive will not be included. I'm sick of being the victim of abuse just because spoiled brats can't have their own way! Those of you who have been reasonable with me will be given the best service possible under the current circumstances. But I have one further request. Please write the requests using the address you wish to use for your requests. The reasons for that should be obvious; we need to know it's a genuine and verified address. Usually, in fact, we will request that you use the same address by which you are subscribed to the list; since the offer of these books is only open to list members and by using different addresses, you are technically in breech of the offer terms. So, as of now, i will only be accepting book requests using subscribed addresses, no excuses. Lynne From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Sat Jul 23 11:38:30 2011 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (michael) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:38:30 +1000 Subject: help with voiceover voices. Message-ID: <5FFD19863339436F83CC678070E33B1E@toshibauser> Hi guys I have installed os 10 lion and want to hear the new voices. Wen i do vo comand it has alex and only 1 other voice. cheers Michael. From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 11:41:47 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:41:47 +0100 Subject: help with voiceover voices. In-Reply-To: <5FFD19863339436F83CC678070E33B1E@toshibauser> References: <5FFD19863339436F83CC678070E33B1E@toshibauser> Message-ID: <0E2DE8D9-D84B-4CCE-A3D7-72AF5EA628DB@gmail.com> that's because it only now shows recent voices. go into voiceover utility and choose customize when asked what voice do you want On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:38 AM, michael wrote: > Hi guys I have installed os 10 lion and want to hear the new voices. > Wen i do vo comand it has alex and only 1 other voice. > cheers Michael. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Sat Jul 23 11:50:35 2011 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (michael) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:50:35 +1000 Subject: help with voiceover voices. References: <5FFD19863339436F83CC678070E33B1E@toshibauser> <0E2DE8D9-D84B-4CCE-A3D7-72AF5EA628DB@gmail.com> Message-ID: Okay thanks so all the english and australian voices are already in os 10 lion. cheers Michael. ----- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 8:41 PM Subject: Re: help with voiceover voices. > that's because it only now shows recent voices. go into voiceover utility > and choose customize when asked what voice do you want > > On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:38 AM, michael wrote: > >> Hi guys I have installed os 10 lion and want to hear the new voices. >> Wen i do vo comand it has alex and only 1 other voice. >> cheers Michael. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 11:51:41 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:51:41 +0100 Subject: help with voiceover voices. In-Reply-To: References: <5FFD19863339436F83CC678070E33B1E@toshibauser> <0E2DE8D9-D84B-4CCE-A3D7-72AF5EA628DB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <026752FC-8388-446F-9ACB-0141EE9936BE@gmail.com> the low quality ones are, yes, the high quality the premium have to be downloaded On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:50 AM, michael wrote: > Okay thanks so all the english and australian voices are already in os 10 lion. > cheers Michael. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 8:41 PM > Subject: Re: help with voiceover voices. > > >> that's because it only now shows recent voices. go into voiceover utility and choose customize when asked what voice do you want >> >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:38 AM, michael wrote: >> >>> Hi guys I have installed os 10 lion and want to hear the new voices. >>> Wen i do vo comand it has alex and only 1 other voice. >>> cheers Michael. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jul 23 12:28:41 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:28:41 +1000 Subject: Zoom and Screen Saver in Lion Message-ID: <057D74AD-A5C6-42DD-8833-9359119E3B68@internode.on.net> Hi! Saw this question from one of my Twitter followers, its something I can't obviously answer given that I don't read the screen with my eyes . Apparently when the Screen Saver is activated in Lion Zoom is disabled, has anyone heard of this and if so does anyone know how to stop this happening? My first thought was to disable the Screen Saver which should solve the problem. Sent from my iPad From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 12:51:16 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:51:16 +0100 Subject: Magic Trackpad; [Revisited] Message-ID: Hello everybody Firstly may I thank those who have written to me privately expressing good wishes for Gordon's recovery. He's home now and resting for the most part having lost quite a bit of blood. Anyway, on to the reason for writing, hence the subject line. Yesterday we received the two Magic Trackpad units I ordered earlier in the week. I haven't opened them as yet, I wanted to give Gordon the opportunity. But I thought I'd write first and ask those who do have these devices whether there are any pitfalls; and what's the first thing you need to do to get them connected. I'm also wondering whether there is a way of disabling the internal trackpad on a MacBook Pro, and whether in fact those who have used both would think there is any advantage to using the Magic Trackpad rather than the internal one on the machine itself. If not, maybe we'll be better off with the Trackpads on two of our Mac Minis instead. In fact, one of them is destined for a Mac Mini which, of course, doesn't come equipped with one by default. Lynne From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Jul 23 12:53:14 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:53:14 +0100 Subject: BRAILLE SUPPORT IN LION In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4e2ab625.c1d0e30a.2424.ffffa4ee@mx.google.com> Hi Kristeen. Yes, Braille support has improved for Mac OSX Lion. Features include flash messages which go away after anumber of seconds, depending on how fast the user wants it to go away. The default is 3 seconds I think. Also, I think more displays aresupported nd there are also other languages for Braille I think too. Hope this answers your query. Lewis Crack. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes Sent: 23 July 2011 00:24 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: BRAILLE SUPPORT IN LION HAS LION IMPROVED THE SUPPORT FOR BRAILE? I WAS HOPING FOR THAT, BUT WONDERED IF ANYONE HAS TRIED IT. THANKS. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Jul 23 12:58:47 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:58:47 +0100 Subject: some lion issues In-Reply-To: <4e29f96b.4eead80a.459e.ffff87bf@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4e2ab773.02cae30a.24a9.ffffb055@mx.google.com> Hello Michael. No, I am not having these issues either, but try these solutions: 1. Try pressing VO+Shift+F3 to make sure Cursor Tracking is on. . I tink the screen lock thing is under Power Preferences, not sure though. 3. In VoiceOver tility, seect navigation and make sure that all the cursors follow each other. These are the checkboxes that follow it, e.g Mouse ursor Follows VoiceOver Cursor. Hope this helps. I know it sounds a little vague but everything is worth arty! Regards. Lewis Crack. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver Sent: 22 July 2011 23:28 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: some lion issues i just installed lion and i have one or two issues which i don't know if anybody else has noticed. when my macbook boots, i appear to get messages such as "speech server" or some website for apple and it seems to cause a problem focusing on my destop so for example if i try to do vo plus d to try and get to my doc, it doesn't appear to activate first time and i either have to do the command again or i have to press escape and then do it again before voiceover decides to read the items on the doc. this problem where i get messages read out when booting my macbook also appears to affect other dialogues such as when i go to shutdown and i cannot seem to always read the dialogue for the choices even when using vo and the left and right arrow keys. has anyone else had these issues after upgrading from snow leopard? i am wondering if my problem might be due to something i have changed in preferences for speech, some box which i may have checked or unchecked which is causing these focusing issues. i also notice that the voice changes for prompts when shutting down when i am asked if i want to shut down even if i am unable to see the buttons for the choices. not relating to any of these issues does anyone know how to cancel the screen lock? when setting my macbook to prompt me for my password for my account, i somehow inadvertently set the password for the screensaver so after leaving my macbook for just a short time, i am prompted to type my password which is a bit of a pain if for example i am on skype and i don't do any other task on my computer. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 13:52:35 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:52:35 +0100 Subject: Question from somebody who doesn't use VO all the time Message-ID: <4602B268-CC57-40C9-9AB0-7002C3520C9B@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I'm just curious to know, from the perspective of somebody who has experience of using VO in a limited fashion how useful people find the new QuickNav Commander. For those who haven't yet found this, it's in the VoiceOver utility. Gordon finds this function extremely useful but sometimes it does slow things down because he gets the accursed "Busyh" signal from Safari quite a lot when using single key mode. Lyne From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 13:57:19 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:57:19 +0100 Subject: BRAILLE SUPPORT IN LION In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7A71D4D8-F5C0-42D8-901E-F0EAC749D9A7@mac-access.net> Hello Christopher Lion's Braille support is now excellent for English. There are severe issues in other languages; but for English it's absolutely superb. A s somebody who recently learned Braille so that she could utilise this particular form of writing which her husband news to use all the time, I find it refreshing having used SL for so long with only American Braille. But I know that there are users on this list who are somewhat frustrated by the poor handling of other languages. Lynne Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 00:24, Kristeen Hughes wrote: HAS LION IMPROVED THE SUPPORT FOR BRAILE? I WAS HOPING FOR THAT, BUT WONDERED IF ANYONE HAS TRIED IT. THANKS. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 14:00:12 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:00:12 +0100 Subject: bluetooth keyboard Message-ID: <8591AF0B-2462-4468-9BEC-AF3F497BFBC4@gmail.com> hi i have jsut put a brand new set of apple rechargable batteries in to my apple keybaord why is it saying 81 percent? From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 14:00:55 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:00:55 +0100 Subject: BRAILLE SUPPORT IN LION In-Reply-To: <7A71D4D8-F5C0-42D8-901E-F0EAC749D9A7@mac-access.net> References: <7A71D4D8-F5C0-42D8-901E-F0EAC749D9A7@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <06B2EE5B-18A3-45C5-8DF8-2F35B62EDC26@gmail.com> which languages ahndle bad? french for me, seems ok On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Christopher > > Lion's Braille support is now excellent for English. There are severe issues in other languages; but for English it's absolutely superb. > > A > s somebody who recently learned Braille so that she could utilise this particular form of writing which her husband news to use all the time, I find it refreshing having used SL for so long with only American Braille. But I know that there are users on this list who are somewhat frustrated by the poor handling of other languages. > > Lynne > > Lynne > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 00:24, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > > HAS LION IMPROVED THE SUPPORT FOR BRAILE? I WAS HOPING FOR THAT, BUT WONDERED IF ANYONE HAS TRIED IT. > > THANKS. > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 14:02:13 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:02:13 +0100 Subject: charging right? Message-ID: hi when i put the batteries int o my apple charger the negative end not the one with the metal on it goes towards the bottom is that right? From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sat Jul 23 14:30:56 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:30:56 +0200 Subject: BRAILLE SUPPORT IN LION In-Reply-To: <06B2EE5B-18A3-45C5-8DF8-2F35B62EDC26@gmail.com> References: <7A71D4D8-F5C0-42D8-901E-F0EAC749D9A7@mac-access.net> <06B2EE5B-18A3-45C5-8DF8-2F35B62EDC26@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Will, The French 8-dot Braille does not conform to the French universal Braille code TBFR 2007. This can be very off-putting. Cheers, Anne On 23 Jul 2011, at 15:00, william lomas wrote: > which languages ahndle bad? > french for me, seems ok > > On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Christopher >> >> Lion's Braille support is now excellent for English. There are severe issues in other languages; but for English it's absolutely superb. >> >> A >> s somebody who recently learned Braille so that she could utilise this particular form of writing which her husband news to use all the time, I find it refreshing having used SL for so long with only American Braille. But I know that there are users on this list who are somewhat frustrated by the poor handling of other languages. >> >> Lynne >> >> Lynne >> >> On 23 Jul 2011, at 00:24, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >> >> HAS LION IMPROVED THE SUPPORT FOR BRAILE? I WAS HOPING FOR THAT, BUT WONDERED IF ANYONE HAS TRIED IT. >> >> THANKS. >> >> Kristeen Hughes >> khwicca at gmail.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 14:32:31 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:32:31 +0100 Subject: BRAILLE SUPPORT IN LION In-Reply-To: References: <7A71D4D8-F5C0-42D8-901E-F0EAC749D9A7@mac-access.net> <06B2EE5B-18A3-45C5-8DF8-2F35B62EDC26@gmail.com> Message-ID: haven't used the eight dot french the gold master for me too sluggish i wait a few months On Jul 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Will, > > The French 8-dot Braille does not conform to the French universal Braille code TBFR 2007. This can be very off-putting. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 15:00, william lomas wrote: > >> which languages ahndle bad? >> french for me, seems ok >> >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Christopher >>> >>> Lion's Braille support is now excellent for English. There are severe issues in other languages; but for English it's absolutely superb. >>> >>> A >>> s somebody who recently learned Braille so that she could utilise this particular form of writing which her husband news to use all the time, I find it refreshing having used SL for so long with only American Braille. But I know that there are users on this list who are somewhat frustrated by the poor handling of other languages. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 00:24, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >>> >>> HAS LION IMPROVED THE SUPPORT FOR BRAILE? I WAS HOPING FOR THAT, BUT WONDERED IF ANYONE HAS TRIED IT. >>> >>> THANKS. >>> >>> Kristeen Hughes >>> khwicca at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mfurness at bell.net Sat Jul 23 15:41:46 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:41:46 -0400 Subject: lost mail boxes from lion update Message-ID: After I downloaded and installed Lion, I went to mail. I can not find any of my mail boxes. I went and selected classic view, but that was not the answer. Did I loose them and all saved messages? Unhappy Mark The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 15:45:51 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:45:51 +0200 Subject: Activities and switching applications In-Reply-To: <5D540289-F09E-4842-9637-F2C32FA7BDAA@home3.gvdnet.dk> References: <5D540289-F09E-4842-9637-F2C32FA7BDAA@home3.gvdnet.dk> Message-ID: <2D50B50A-0C3D-4F62-B647-5FD6B9D4FD1A@gmail.com> Hi again, My apologies. I hope that last email bounced, as I accidentally selected the wrong email address, so I'll try again. Please read below. On Jul 23, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I wanted to ask before I bug this if anyone can reproduce this issue. > > If I command-tab between applications and my activity is using another voice than my default voice for VoiceOver, the default voice seems to speak the application titles as I command-tab through them. If I decide that I don't want to switch application, then command-shift-tab back to my application without actually letting go, thus keeping focus in my current application, the activity seems to switch back to my default voice even when that activity is active. > > Would anyone mind reproducing this? I'm almost sure that this should not be happening, and that anyone can reproduce this, but it never hurts to be sure on this. > > For those who haven't found this feature yet, it is in the VoiceOver Utility. To find this, hit VO-F8, then move down to the "Activities" category in the table or hit Command-0 to move focus to it. Then, add an activity assigned to a specific application. You can do this by hitting VO-right to the "add" button, entering a name and select specific options by using the checkboxes. When selecting a checkbox, the "set" button becomes available and you can use VO-space to display options for that particular item or check the checkbox that says "Additional settings to include," which allows you to configure braille for specific uses, etc. In short, Activities can be used for a lot of things, such as reading the news, browsing your email, etc based on the applications you use and permits you to use most, if not all of the current VoiceOver options. > > Thanks in advance. > > Regards, > Nic From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 15:58:01 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:58:01 +0100 Subject: Checking Spelling in Mail query Message-ID: Hi folks, Can anyone else reproduce this please? Before I send an E-Mail, I have Mail always check my spelling, just in case. However, there are times when I want to check a spelling in the context of a sentence, so I use Command+Shift+Accent to move back to the message window. But when I try to look at the misspelled word, the message gets sent without me authorising it. Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks TC :) James From mfurness at bell.net Sat Jul 23 16:06:02 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:06:02 -0400 Subject: fixed lost mail boxes I hope Message-ID: I have no idea what I did, but my mail boxes are back. Maybe unchecking, rechecking or rebooting several times did the trick? Mark The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 16:37:58 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:37:58 +0200 Subject: My two favourite things about Lion In-Reply-To: <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> Hi! I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. Regards, Nic On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:08 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hello Anne, > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:03, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Try Fiona, she's much better. Scottish, though, of course. > > Well, there's a big debate about whether the Irish are scots who could swim and get away, or whether the Scots are simply the Irish who could swim and get away, but that's an issue for offlist, or another list, but certainly not this list!*smile* > > Will abuse work's bandwidth tomorrow and download her though? > > D?nal >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 16:43:25 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:43:25 +0100 Subject: My two favourite things about Lion In-Reply-To: <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0F05F945-CF27-488F-A32B-F379B7302CA2@mac-access.net> That's a nice feature. One of my favourites is having the ability to have VoiceOver come through my headset, whilst still being able to listen to the radio at the same time on the speakers. You'll find this under the "Sound" tab in the VO Utility". The option is called "Output Device". TC :) James On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:08 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hello Anne, >> >> On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:03, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Try Fiona, she's much better. Scottish, though, of course. >> >> Well, there's a big debate about whether the Irish are scots who could swim and get away, or whether the Scots are simply the Irish who could swim and get away, but that's an issue for offlist, or another list, but certainly not this list!*smile* >> >> Will abuse work's bandwidth tomorrow and download her though? >> >> D?nal >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 16:45:21 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:45:21 +0200 Subject: My two favourite things about Lion In-Reply-To: <0F05F945-CF27-488F-A32B-F379B7302CA2@mac-access.net> References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <0F05F945-CF27-488F-A32B-F379B7302CA2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi James, I agree with this. Another one of my favorite features is the ability to even customize braille verbosity now, as opposed to verbosity applying across the board. This is nice, because then you don't have to hear it all while still being able to read particular controls on the display, or the other way around. Regards, Nic On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:43 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > That's a nice feature. One of my favourites is having the ability to have VoiceOver come through my headset, whilst still being able to listen to the radio at the same time on the speakers. You'll find this under the "Sound" tab in the VO Utility". The option is called "Output Device". > TC :) > James > > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:08 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Hello Anne, >>> >>> On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:03, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> >>>> Try Fiona, she's much better. Scottish, though, of course. >>> >>> Well, there's a big debate about whether the Irish are scots who could swim and get away, or whether the Scots are simply the Irish who could swim and get away, but that's an issue for offlist, or another list, but certainly not this list!*smile* >>> >>> Will abuse work's bandwidth tomorrow and download her though? >>> >>> D?nal >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 16:59:15 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:59:15 +0100 Subject: My two favourite things about Lion In-Reply-To: <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Nic This option is not showing up on our MBP machine. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi! I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. Regards, Nic On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:08 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hello Anne, > > On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:03, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Try Fiona, she's much better. Scottish, though, of course. > > Well, there's a big debate about whether the Irish are scots who could swim and get away, or whether the Scots are simply the Irish who could swim and get away, but that's an issue for offlist, or another list, but certainly not this list!*smile* > > Will abuse work's bandwidth tomorrow and download her though? > > D?nal >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 17:01:19 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:01:19 +0100 Subject: My two favourite things about Lion In-Reply-To: References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <0F05F945-CF27-488F-A32B-F379B7302CA2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <05FCE949-C490-4864-9BBC-AFE4ECA49799@mac-access.net> That's really cool. Unfortunately, this is not something I can use, as Braille Displays are prohibitively expensive. You enjoy though :) TC :) James On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:45, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi James, > > I agree with this. Another one of my favorite features is the ability to even customize braille verbosity now, as opposed to verbosity applying across the board. This is nice, because then you don't have to hear it all while still being able to read particular controls on the display, or the other way around. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:43 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> That's a nice feature. One of my favourites is having the ability to have VoiceOver come through my headset, whilst still being able to listen to the radio at the same time on the speakers. You'll find this under the "Sound" tab in the VO Utility". The option is called "Output Device". >> TC :) >> James >> >> >> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:08 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Anne, >>>> >>>> On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:03, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Try Fiona, she's much better. Scottish, though, of course. >>>> >>>> Well, there's a big debate about whether the Irish are scots who could swim and get away, or whether the Scots are simply the Irish who could swim and get away, but that's an issue for offlist, or another list, but certainly not this list!*smile* >>>> >>>> Will abuse work's bandwidth tomorrow and download her though? >>>> >>>> D?nal >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 17:05:05 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:05:05 +0100 Subject: My two favourite things about Lion In-Reply-To: <05FCE949-C490-4864-9BBC-AFE4ECA49799@mac-access.net> References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <0F05F945-CF27-488F-A32B-F379B7302CA2@mac-access.net> <05FCE949-C490-4864-9BBC-AFE4ECA49799@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0FB64444-77B4-48A3-9EC7-5355F9D12397@mac-access.net> Hello James If I ever win the lottery I'll buy you a display. I know Gordon finds his absolutely indispensable. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 17:01, James AUSTIN wrote: That's really cool. Unfortunately, this is not something I can use, as Braille Displays are prohibitively expensive. You enjoy though :) TC :) James On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:45, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi James, > > I agree with this. Another one of my favorite features is the ability to even customize braille verbosity now, as opposed to verbosity applying across the board. This is nice, because then you don't have to hear it all while still being able to read particular controls on the display, or the other way around. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:43 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> That's a nice feature. One of my favourites is having the ability to have VoiceOver come through my headset, whilst still being able to listen to the radio at the same time on the speakers. You'll find this under the "Sound" tab in the VO Utility". The option is called "Output Device". >> TC :) >> James >> >> >> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:08 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Anne, >>>> >>>> On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:03, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Try Fiona, she's much better. Scottish, though, of course. >>>> >>>> Well, there's a big debate about whether the Irish are scots who could swim and get away, or whether the Scots are simply the Irish who could swim and get away, but that's an issue for offlist, or another list, but certainly not this list!*smile* >>>> >>>> Will abuse work's bandwidth tomorrow and download her though? >>>> >>>> D?nal >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 17:14:32 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:14:32 +0100 Subject: My two favourite things about Lion In-Reply-To: <0FB64444-77B4-48A3-9EC7-5355F9D12397@mac-access.net> References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <0F05F945-CF27-488F-A32B-F379B7302CA2@mac-access.net> <05FCE949-C490-4864-9BBC-AFE4ECA49799@mac-access.net> <0FB64444-77B4-48A3-9EC7-5355F9D12397@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, That's very kind. Thank you :) TC :) James On 23 Jul 2011, at 17:05, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > If I ever win the lottery I'll buy you a display. I know Gordon finds his absolutely indispensable. > > Lynne > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 17:01, James AUSTIN wrote: > > That's really cool. Unfortunately, this is not something I can use, as Braille Displays are prohibitively expensive. > You enjoy though :) > TC :) > James > On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:45, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi James, >> >> I agree with this. Another one of my favorite features is the ability to even customize braille verbosity now, as opposed to verbosity applying across the board. This is nice, because then you don't have to hear it all while still being able to read particular controls on the display, or the other way around. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:43 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> That's a nice feature. One of my favourites is having the ability to have VoiceOver come through my headset, whilst still being able to listen to the radio at the same time on the speakers. You'll find this under the "Sound" tab in the VO Utility". The option is called "Output Device". >>> TC :) >>> James >>> >>> >>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Nic >>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:08 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Anne, >>>>> >>>>> On 20 Jul 2011, at 23:03, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Try Fiona, she's much better. Scottish, though, of course. >>>>> >>>>> Well, there's a big debate about whether the Irish are scots who could swim and get away, or whether the Scots are simply the Irish who could swim and get away, but that's an issue for offlist, or another list, but certainly not this list!*smile* >>>>> >>>>> Will abuse work's bandwidth tomorrow and download her though? >>>>> >>>>> D?nal >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Anne >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 17:17:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:17:57 +0100 Subject: Reading a webpage using a trackpad Message-ID: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Using Trackpad Commander and VoiceOver, what's the procedure for reading a web page using the Trackpad? I assume it must involve holding down the VO keys, which could be a bit of a pain. Lynne From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 17:26:36 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:26:36 +0200 Subject: Reading a webpage using a trackpad In-Reply-To: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> References: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Lynne, If you want to read a webpage from top to finish, you can do a two-finger flick up which reads any window from top to bottom. This can be imitated by using VO-B. If doing a two-finger flick down, it will read from the current position of the VoiceOver cursor to the end. You can also utilize VO-A for this function. However, you can also flick left and right to move to previous and next item, respectively. This is similar to VO-left and right arrow. I hope that helps you. Regards, Nic On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Using Trackpad Commander and VoiceOver, what's the procedure for reading a web page using the Trackpad? I assume it must involve holding down the VO keys, which could be a bit of a pain. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sat Jul 23 17:43:35 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:43:35 +0200 Subject: Reading a webpage using a trackpad In-Reply-To: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> References: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Lynne, Reading a web page using the trackpad is very similar to doing it on the iPhone. You have the rotor which includes everything that is in the Web Rotor (VO-U), with the addition of characters and words. The selection affects the one-finger swipe up or down. The one-finger swipe left or right goes to previous or next item. A double tap clicks a link, and so on. In addition, you can interact with an item with a two-finger swipe right, and the reverse stops the interaction. A two-finger double tap at the top of the trackpad takes you to the menu bar and a one-finger swipe right takes you through the menu items. Cheers, Anne On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:17, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Using Trackpad Commander and VoiceOver, what's the procedure for reading a web page using the Trackpad? I assume it must involve holding down the VO keys, which could be a bit of a pain. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 17:44:16 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:44:16 +0100 Subject: Reading a webpage using a trackpad In-Reply-To: References: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Nic Thank you most kindly. Is it possible to activate elements that way? How about manipulating controls such as pulldowns, links, check boxes and radio buttons? Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 17:26, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hello Lynne, If you want to read a webpage from top to finish, you can do a two-finger flick up which reads any window from top to bottom. This can be imitated by using VO-B. If doing a two-finger flick down, it will read from the current position of the VoiceOver cursor to the end. You can also utilize VO-A for this function. However, you can also flick left and right to move to previous and next item, respectively. This is similar to VO-left and right arrow. I hope that helps you. Regards, Nic On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Using Trackpad Commander and VoiceOver, what's the procedure for reading a web page using the Trackpad? I assume it must involve holding down the VO keys, which could be a bit of a pain. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From opensesame at me.com Sat Jul 23 17:43:57 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:43:57 -0400 Subject: Lid Sleep {Was, Re: My two favourite things about Lion} In-Reply-To: References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8A952755-C1CB-404E-B413-341A399116DE@me.com> Hello Nic, I'm also not finding this option on my late 2010 MBA. Can you give some more details about where you found the "Lic Sleep" checkbox? I don't have a specific preference pane for it and haven't been able to locate it in either of the preference panes where I'd expect to find it: Energy Saver and Displays. Also, could you give some details of your system? I wonder if the option might only be available for specific models or graphics cards, etc. This is definitely an option I would find very useful. TIA, Bryan > On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 17:46:39 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:46:39 +0200 Subject: Reading a webpage using a trackpad In-Reply-To: References: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <29C03D1F-79A3-4733-BCF3-B3ED1715E6BD@gmail.com> Hello Lynne, If you are familiar with the iPhone's way of navigating with VoiceOver, this is very much the same. You can of course drag down the trackpad to find out where the various elements are, and double-tap them to activate or select radio buttons, checkboxes, links, etc. You can also twist two fingers on the trackpad to use the rotor, then flick down with one finger to go to the next instance of the element selected, and flick upwards to go to the previous. Regards, Nic On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > Thank you most kindly. Is it possible to activate elements that way? How about manipulating controls such as pulldowns, links, check boxes and radio buttons? > > Lynne > > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 17:26, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hello Lynne, > > If you want to read a webpage from top to finish, you can do a two-finger flick up which reads any window from top to bottom. This can be imitated by using VO-B. If doing a two-finger flick down, it will read from the current position of the VoiceOver cursor to the end. You can also utilize VO-A for this function. However, you can also flick left and right to move to previous and next item, respectively. This is similar to VO-left and right arrow. > > I hope that helps you. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> Using Trackpad Commander and VoiceOver, what's the procedure for reading a web page using the Trackpad? I assume it must involve holding down the VO keys, which could be a bit of a pain. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 17:48:11 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:48:11 +0100 Subject: Reading a webpage using a trackpad In-Reply-To: References: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8B657635-46C0-4F58-B092-571088546FD6@mac-access.net> hello Anne Many thanks for this helpful post. I'm just debating now whether to set up a Magic Trackpad on this machine. The Internal trackpad is a pain with the commander turned on. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 17:43, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Lynne, Reading a web page using the trackpad is very similar to doing it on the iPhone. You have the rotor which includes everything that is in the Web Rotor (VO-U), with the addition of characters and words. The selection affects the one-finger swipe up or down. The one-finger swipe left or right goes to previous or next item. A double tap clicks a link, and so on. In addition, you can interact with an item with a two-finger swipe right, and the reverse stops the interaction. A two-finger double tap at the top of the trackpad takes you to the menu bar and a one-finger swipe right takes you through the menu items. Cheers, Anne On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:17, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Using Trackpad Commander and VoiceOver, what's the procedure for reading a web page using the Trackpad? I assume it must involve holding down the VO keys, which could be a bit of a pain. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 17:50:45 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:50:45 +0200 Subject: Lid Sleep {Was, Re: My two favourite things about Lion} In-Reply-To: <8A952755-C1CB-404E-B413-341A399116DE@me.com> References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <8A952755-C1CB-404E-B413-341A399116DE@me.com> Message-ID: Hi bryan, On y Mac, it is in Sysem Preferences where all the other panes are located, such as General. It is called Lid Sleep. It has a checkbox called "Do not fall asleep when the lid is closed" in the preference pane, and a "Start NoSleep Utility on Startup" checkbox. I'm not exactly sure what that option does, since the first checkbox already takes care of the sleep. I have a MacBook from late 2008, the 13 inch model. The processor is a 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB, running Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7 (11A511) which should be the official build. Regards, Nic On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello Nic, > > I'm also not finding this option on my late 2010 MBA. Can you give some more details about where you found the "Lic Sleep" checkbox? I don't have a specific preference pane for it and haven't been able to locate it in either of the preference panes where I'd expect to find it: Energy Saver and Displays. > > Also, could you give some details of your system? I wonder if the option might only be available for specific models or graphics cards, etc. > > This is definitely an option I would find very useful. > > TIA, > Bryan > >> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 17:52:01 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:52:01 +0100 Subject: Reading a webpage using a trackpad In-Reply-To: <29C03D1F-79A3-4733-BCF3-B3ED1715E6BD@gmail.com> References: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> <29C03D1F-79A3-4733-BCF3-B3ED1715E6BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Nic Thank you. I will try this. I confess I have become accustomed to using a bluetooth keyboard even on the MacBook Pro. So perhaps the external trackpad would be better for bot of us. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 17:46, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hello Lynne, If you are familiar with the iPhone's way of navigating with VoiceOver, this is very much the same. You can of course drag down the trackpad to find out where the various elements are, and double-tap them to activate or select radio buttons, checkboxes, links, etc. You can also twist two fingers on the trackpad to use the rotor, then flick down with one finger to go to the next instance of the element selected, and flick upwards to go to the previous. Regards, Nic On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > Thank you most kindly. Is it possible to activate elements that way? How about manipulating controls such as pulldowns, links, check boxes and radio buttons? > > Lynne > > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 17:26, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hello Lynne, > > If you want to read a webpage from top to finish, you can do a two-finger flick up which reads any window from top to bottom. This can be imitated by using VO-B. If doing a two-finger flick down, it will read from the current position of the VoiceOver cursor to the end. You can also utilize VO-A for this function. However, you can also flick left and right to move to previous and next item, respectively. This is similar to VO-left and right arrow. > > I hope that helps you. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> Using Trackpad Commander and VoiceOver, what's the procedure for reading a web page using the Trackpad? I assume it must involve holding down the VO keys, which could be a bit of a pain. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 18:13:28 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:13:28 -0400 Subject: Bugs in Lion References: <32B3F745-0660-4D40-9130-FE79476BBCE6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <533C2135095F462DA154C6CC4C8B68F5@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Nicolai, If I understand your scenario, I am unable to reproduce the problem. I had one instance where VO failed to switch back to the default voice, but that has only happened once, hence I have no helpful info to supply for a bug report. Sorry for the late reply, but I did not read your post until just now for reasons described in a subsequent post. Also apologize if this answer is redundant, but I don't recall seeing anything else on this thread. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Nicolai Svendsen To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:04 PM Subject: Bugs in Lion <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 18:15:36 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:15:36 -0700 Subject: Activities and switching applications In-Reply-To: <2D50B50A-0C3D-4F62-B647-5FD6B9D4FD1A@gmail.com> References: <5D540289-F09E-4842-9637-F2C32FA7BDAA@home3.gvdnet.dk> <2D50B50A-0C3D-4F62-B647-5FD6B9D4FD1A@gmail.com> Message-ID: I can reproduce about 90 percent of the time. Take care. On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi again, > > My apologies. I hope that last email bounced, as I accidentally selected the wrong email address, so I'll try again. Please read below. > > On Jul 23, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I wanted to ask before I bug this if anyone can reproduce this issue. >> >> If I command-tab between applications and my activity is using another voice than my default voice for VoiceOver, the default voice seems to speak the application titles as I command-tab through them. If I decide that I don't want to switch application, then command-shift-tab back to my application without actually letting go, thus keeping focus in my current application, the activity seems to switch back to my default voice even when that activity is active. >> >> Would anyone mind reproducing this? I'm almost sure that this should not be happening, and that anyone can reproduce this, but it never hurts to be sure on this. >> >> For those who haven't found this feature yet, it is in the VoiceOver Utility. To find this, hit VO-F8, then move down to the "Activities" category in the table or hit Command-0 to move focus to it. Then, add an activity assigned to a specific application. You can do this by hitting VO-right to the "add" button, entering a name and select specific options by using the checkboxes. When selecting a checkbox, the "set" button becomes available and you can use VO-space to display options for that particular item or check the checkbox that says "Additional settings to include," which allows you to configure braille for specific uses, etc. In short, Activities can be used for a lot of things, such as reading the news, browsing your email, etc based on the applications you use and permits you to use most, if not all of the current VoiceOver options. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Regards, >> Nic > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 18:18:05 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:18:05 +0100 Subject: Installing Dropbox Message-ID: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> Hi folks, Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. Thanks TC :) James From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 18:20:07 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:20:07 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver and Versions Message-ID: Hi folks has anyone had any luck with Versions please? I am able to access the most recent "version" of my document, but cannot seem to get back any further. Thanks TC :) James From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 18:25:16 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:25:16 -0500 Subject: restoring iOS versions Message-ID: how do you choose what iOS version you want to restore to? is it option-click? and if so, how do you do it with VO running on the mac? From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 18:26:32 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:26:32 -0400 Subject: Lid Sleep {Was, Re: My two favourite things about Lion} In-Reply-To: References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <8A952755-C1CB-404E-B413-341A399116DE@me.com> Message-ID: <8C502C89-2E0A-4B6A-B688-A4DDE5D4CBC7@gmail.com> Hi, I can't find this option in system preferences. Which prefernce pane is the lid sleep option under? Courtney On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi bryan, > > On y Mac, it is in Sysem Preferences where all the other panes are located, such as General. It is called Lid Sleep. It has a checkbox called "Do not fall asleep when the lid is closed" in the preference pane, and a "Start NoSleep Utility on Startup" checkbox. I'm not exactly sure what that option does, since the first checkbox already takes care of the sleep. > > I have a MacBook from late 2008, the 13 inch model. The processor is a 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB, running Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7 (11A511) which should be the official build. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Hello Nic, >> >> I'm also not finding this option on my late 2010 MBA. Can you give some more details about where you found the "Lic Sleep" checkbox? I don't have a specific preference pane for it and haven't been able to locate it in either of the preference panes where I'd expect to find it: Energy Saver and Displays. >> >> Also, could you give some details of your system? I wonder if the option might only be available for specific models or graphics cards, etc. >> >> This is definitely an option I would find very useful. >> >> TIA, >> Bryan >> >>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 18:27:30 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:27:30 -0400 Subject: Reading a webpage using a trackpad References: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> <8B657635-46C0-4F58-B092-571088546FD6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <047E5FD8EA9043689E31AC396ABECD9B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Lynne, I love the trackpad commander, but am also plagued by that problem where a random palm touch alters the insertion point during text entry, resulting in very amusing and hard to put back together data. I wonder though if activities could offer a solution -- i.e. automatically turn off the trackpad commander while in text edit. I don't think the mail composition area is identified as a separate window which could trigger an activity (I like navigating mail via track pad) but perhaps there may be a way to have a script automatically kill off the trackpad commander when it detects that one is in the edit pane? I suppose the trouble there is that like turning off the commander, you'd have to remember to run it :). Still, creative exploitation of the new activities feature might solve the problem in apps such as textEdit and Pages. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Reading a webpage using a trackpad hello Anne Many thanks for this helpful post. I'm just debating now whether to set up a Magic Trackpad on this machine. The Internal trackpad is a pain with the commander turned on. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 17:43, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Lynne, Reading a web page using the trackpad is very similar to doing it on the iPhone. You have the rotor which includes everything that is in the Web Rotor (VO-U), with the addition of characters and words. The selection affects the one-finger swipe up or down. The one-finger swipe left or right goes to previous or next item. A double tap clicks a link, and so on. In addition, you can interact with an item with a two-finger swipe right, and the reverse stops the interaction. A two-finger double tap at the top of the trackpad takes you to the menu bar and a one-finger swipe right takes you through the menu items. Cheers, Anne On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:17, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Using Trackpad Commander and VoiceOver, what's the procedure for reading a web page using the Trackpad? I assume it must involve holding down the VO keys, which could be a bit of a pain. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 18:28:06 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 19:28:06 +0200 Subject: Lid Sleep {Was, Re: My two favourite things about Lion} In-Reply-To: <8C502C89-2E0A-4B6A-B688-A4DDE5D4CBC7@gmail.com> References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <8A952755-C1CB-404E-B413-341A399116DE@me.com> <8C502C89-2E0A-4B6A-B688-A4DDE5D4CBC7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, It isn't under any specific preferences, but in the main window of System preferences. Regards, Nic On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I can't find this option in system preferences. Which prefernce pane is the lid sleep option under? > Courtney > On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi bryan, >> >> On y Mac, it is in Sysem Preferences where all the other panes are located, such as General. It is called Lid Sleep. It has a checkbox called "Do not fall asleep when the lid is closed" in the preference pane, and a "Start NoSleep Utility on Startup" checkbox. I'm not exactly sure what that option does, since the first checkbox already takes care of the sleep. >> >> I have a MacBook from late 2008, the 13 inch model. The processor is a 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB, running Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7 (11A511) which should be the official build. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> Hello Nic, >>> >>> I'm also not finding this option on my late 2010 MBA. Can you give some more details about where you found the "Lic Sleep" checkbox? I don't have a specific preference pane for it and haven't been able to locate it in either of the preference panes where I'd expect to find it: Energy Saver and Displays. >>> >>> Also, could you give some details of your system? I wonder if the option might only be available for specific models or graphics cards, etc. >>> >>> This is definitely an option I would find very useful. >>> >>> TIA, >>> Bryan >>> >>>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 18:34:37 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:34:37 -0700 Subject: restoring iOS versions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You turn vo off after routing the mouse to it with vo cmd f5. then option click and turn vo on. Take care. I have, or at least I think I have a podcast on it, except I cover updating but it's the same with restore. On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:25 AM, joe quinn wrote: > how do you choose what iOS version you want to restore to? is it option-click? and if so, how do you do it with VO running on the mac? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 18:35:16 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:35:16 -0700 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi folks, > > Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. > > Thanks > TC :) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 18:37:52 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas rudolph) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:37:52 -0600 Subject: attatchements from mailing list Message-ID: <5A47678A395F42AB8C6AE940C514401E@dougPC> hey all this is going to all of the mailing lists i am one, because of the issue i am having. I ocasionally get messages from all of you, that may have attachements. My email filters, and security levels of the network i am connected to will not allow me to open these attachements because they can't be varified clear of a virus. i am wondering if this is maybe possible that attachements be maybe noted in the message the contents, that way i can determine myself that they are clear, so that i do not infect my network? just a very interesting situation i have here... if you mods can email me offlist, in a responce, or anyother persons who have the same issue email me off list that would be great This email may contain personal identifyable information. Copy, relay, redistributions, and or reading of these emails is strictly prohibited, unless you are the intended recipiant of this email, and this intended recipiant only. If this is not the intended recipiant, then you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify sender. Douglas Rudolph Tel: 1306-565-2056 Cell: 1306-209-2823 Email: doug.cam3 at gmail.com From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 18:49:00 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:49:00 -0400 Subject: Multipart posts don't play nice with other platforms. Message-ID: <02F66FED6F1148B19C80345BA2C7A7D1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Greetings, I've been cheating a bit. I intend to do what it takes to make friends with the new Lion layout and preview pane, but Lion has generated so much traffic, that in the interest of time I've been primarily using my trusty Netbook and MSIE. I don't know when this started since before Lion I've normally reviewed this list on the Mac, but since Lion, I've observed that I cannot read any posts authored by Nicolai Svendsen without opening a text attachment in Notepad. As I suspected Nic's posts appear normally in AppleMail. Today I noticed the identical behavior with a post authored by Gordon, even though Lynne's are perfectly readable in MSOE. According to the header, the characteristic that seems to trigger this is that most posts have a message type of "plane text" while the ones from Nic and Gordon are "multipart mixed". I know I've had no problems reading multipart messages in MSOE previously, hence wonder if there is some kind of Lion bug that broke a standard, rendering it more difficult for those reading on other platforms? Best regards. Geoff From mike at busboom.at Sat Jul 23 18:57:56 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 19:57:56 +0200 Subject: Purchasing Lion, International Issues In-Reply-To: <92AA92A6-87C2-44D9-92F3-13BB48E31C02@anarchie.org.uk> References: <2C8EAC0C-7AC2-4C5C-86CB-DCCDCF11A5AC@busboom.at> <92AA92A6-87C2-44D9-92F3-13BB48E31C02@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <97596BD5-9FA6-4BCB-ADB3-1053406E6C09@busboom.at> Hello Anne, First of all, I would like to thank you and everyone else who responded to my note. Since I am on vacation, I won't be downloading Lion just yet, but I did want to plan ahead. I have noticed that besides mention of the new voices that can be downloaded for free, very few postings that I have read talk about new Voice Over features. I looked on Apple's accessibility page and did not locate any such list. Does anyone know if the new Lion Voice Over Manual has been posted anywhere? To all of you who have downloaded Lion, enjoy! Best regards, Mike On 22,Jul,2011, at 12:47 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Mike, > > You'll have no problem with the language. As you know, I live in France but run my Mac in English and it's never been a problem. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 22 Jul 2011, at 12:09, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello listers, >> >> When I get a chance, I will purchase and install Lion. I am wondering, however, if the process will be as straightforward for me and other expatriates as it is for someone who doesn't have his or her residency in a country other than the one in which the Mac was purchased. Here is my situation more specifically: >> >> I bought my Mac when I visited my parents in the United States. When Snow Leopard came out, I had friends send me the DVD from the U.S. I currently live in Vienna, Austria, and I do not plan to visit the States for at least three months. When I go to the App Store here in Austria, will it be possible for me to purchase an English version of Lion? Sometimes, companies automatically assume that if an order originates in a certain country, that particular language will be the default language when the product is purchased. While I don't mind speaking German in the least, I still prefer to work with my operating systems in English. >> >> Thanks for any thoughts, >> >> Mike >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sat Jul 23 19:11:51 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 04:11:51 +1000 Subject: Status In-Reply-To: <068CB88F-91B5-4D96-892C-E30EAD09F2DA@mac-access.net> References: <068CB88F-91B5-4D96-892C-E30EAD09F2DA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <38C0522A-B575-4532-A050-B388B6C2645D@bluebottle.com> i am so sorry that people like to abuse you you do not deserve to be treated like this as you are such a nice and caring person and i feel that the person who did this should opoligize to you as you both do a terrific job at looking after all of us and i hope gorden gets well soon friendly hugs lynn On 23/07/2011, at 3:58 PM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > A couple of things here. Firstly please be a little patient with me at the moment if you're awaiting support requests. I know it must be frustrating at times; but there's no need to become abusive, as one member has just done. Gordon is in hospital overnight again and I have been somewhat distracted over the last 18 hours or so. Hence the lack of support; I apologise for any inconvenience. > > Those of you waiting to buy books, please don't give up on me; I am doing my best, under difficult circumstances. Your requests are important to us, and I will do as much as I can but be mindful that I'm working under difficult circumstances just at this moment. Hopefully things will be easier later today; but the member who took it upon himself to become abusive will not be included. I'm sick of being the victim of abuse just because spoiled brats can't have their own way! > > Those of you who have been reasonable with me will be given the best service possible under the current circumstances. But I have one further request. Please write the requests using the address you wish to use for your requests. The reasons for that should be obvious; we need to know it's a genuine and verified address. Usually, in fact, we will request that you use the same address by which you are subscribed to the list; since the offer of these books is only open to list members and by using different addresses, you are technically in breech of the offer terms. > > So, as of now, i will only be accepting book requests using subscribed addresses, no excuses. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Sat Jul 23 19:26:51 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Loose Canon) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:26:51 +0200 Subject: Multipart posts don't play nice with other platforms. In-Reply-To: <02F66FED6F1148B19C80345BA2C7A7D1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <02F66FED6F1148B19C80345BA2C7A7D1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <019505CE-F156-484A-BE89-6ED80EA85BE0@econetmail.com> Hi Jeff, I can confirm this strange behaviour as well this side. I am still on Snow Leopard and I find that while I can read messages from Nick, they seem to have attachments. These messages are flagged and every time I try to open these, an alert box is triggered. So I don't think its a Lion issue: something to do with mail senders. On 23 Jul,2011, at 7:49 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings, > > I've been cheating a bit. I intend to do what it takes to make friends with the new Lion layout and preview pane, but Lion has generated so much traffic, that in the interest of time I've been primarily using my trusty Netbook and MSIE. > > I don't know when this started since before Lion I've normally reviewed this list on the Mac, but since Lion, I've observed that I cannot read any posts authored by Nicolai Svendsen without opening a text attachment in Notepad. As I suspected Nic's posts appear normally in AppleMail. Today I noticed the identical behavior with a post authored by Gordon, even though Lynne's are perfectly readable in MSOE. According to the header, the characteristic that seems to trigger this is that most posts have a message type of "plane text" while the ones from Nic and Gordon are "multipart mixed". I know I've had no problems reading multipart messages in MSOE previously, hence wonder if there is some kind of Lion bug that broke a standard, rendering it more difficult for those reading on other platforms? > > Best regards. > Geoff > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Jul 23 19:26:12 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:26:12 -1000 Subject: Multipart posts don't play nice with other platforms. In-Reply-To: <02F66FED6F1148B19C80345BA2C7A7D1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <02F66FED6F1148B19C80345BA2C7A7D1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: Hi Geoff, Nic's notes to the list are sent with a digital certificate. I think that he applied for one of these using the Comodo digital certificate source that was discussed in the Take Control Guide for Apple Mail. However, even under Snow Leopard, Nic's posts come with an extra "Unable to verify message signature. There was a problem reading the digital signature for this message." and a "Show details" button if you navigate back from the message content scroll area. I'm not of aware of this when I read mail on my iOS devices, but I can find this if I look for it using Apple Mail in Snow Leopard (and I think it also showed up in Leopard, too). A year ago, this happened when Gordon tried to set up a digital certificate for Lynne from Comodo. When he tried sending mail secured with digital certificates (from another service -- not Comodo), there would be an extra line in at the end of the heading "Security: Signed (Gordon Smith)" after the "Reply-To:" field line. But when I examined similar posts from Lynne. I'd get the same "Unable to verify message signature". I think what you're seeing depends on which account Lynne has been using -- the one with the separately purchased digital certificate or the free one from Comodo. It's not a bug in Lion, it's just that it was possible to ignore this in Snow Leopard or Leopard unless you examined the headings in detail. HTH. And I did write to Nic off list last November mentioning that I'd noticed this weird behavior with his digital certificates. In the case of Gordon and Lynne's digital signature certificates, there may have been some on or off list posts last July. Cheers, Esther On Jul 23, 2011, at 07:49, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings, > > I've been cheating a bit. I intend to do what it takes to make friends with the new Lion layout and preview pane, but Lion has generated so much traffic, that in the interest of time I've been primarily using my trusty Netbook and MSIE. > > I don't know when this started since before Lion I've normally reviewed this list on the Mac, but since Lion, I've observed that I cannot read any posts authored by Nicolai Svendsen without opening a text attachment in Notepad. As I suspected Nic's posts appear normally in AppleMail. Today I noticed the identical behavior with a post authored by Gordon, even though Lynne's are perfectly readable in MSOE. According to the header, the characteristic that seems to trigger this is that most posts have a message type of "plane text" while the ones from Nic and Gordon are "multipart mixed". I know I've had no problems reading multipart messages in MSOE previously, hence wonder if there is some kind of Lion bug that broke a standard, rendering it more difficult for those reading on other platforms? > > Best regards. > Geoff From e.zwicker at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 23 19:27:03 2011 From: e.zwicker at sympatico.ca (Earle) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:27:03 -0400 Subject: Podcasts Not Updating In Lion With Latest Itunes Message-ID: I updated to Lion and for the most part I am really happy with it. I am having a problem with Lion and the latest iTunes. It seems like not all of my podcast feeds are being updated. I'm subscribed to about 72 podcasts and only a few are updating regularly. I tried removing my podcasts folder from my iTunes library and unsubscribing from all feeds. I then imported the .opml file but I'm still having the same issue. Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Can anyone think of anything else I can try? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ---------- Earle Twitter, Facebook, Skype, and yahoo: rowdyamerican MSN: peterson_33 at sympatico.ca From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 19:56:16 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:56:16 +0200 Subject: Multipart posts don't play nice with other platforms. In-Reply-To: References: <02F66FED6F1148B19C80345BA2C7A7D1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <716510F0-FAEC-4E38-8E4A-E9CE0F532610@gmail.com> Hi Esther, That is correct. I don't know why Comodo's signatures are generating so much trouble, as some Windows users can't even read these, and it seems that these signatures show up as being invalid. I didn't see this in Snow Leopard at all, but in Lion, it slaps me in the face so I certainly can't avoid seeing it. I'll have to see if I can perhaps figure out what causes this problem, since Comodo's never had this problematic digital certificates before, but hopefully, there a workaround or something similar. I'd like to fix this to avoid complaints, since I know that some people have had reason to believe I was a spammer, or in the case of Windows users completely unable to view my emails, been blocked by their mail clients. Regards, Nic On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Geoff, > > Nic's notes to the list are sent with a digital certificate. I think that he applied for one of these using the Comodo digital certificate source that was discussed in the Take Control Guide for Apple Mail. However, even under Snow Leopard, Nic's posts come with an extra "Unable to verify message signature. There was a problem reading the digital signature for this message." and a "Show details" button if you navigate back from the message content scroll area. I'm not of aware of this when I read mail on my iOS devices, but I can find this if I look for it using Apple Mail in Snow Leopard (and I think it also showed up in Leopard, too). > > A year ago, this happened when Gordon tried to set up a digital certificate for Lynne from Comodo. When he tried sending mail secured with digital certificates (from another service -- not Comodo), there would be an extra line in at the end of the heading "Security: Signed (Gordon Smith)" after the "Reply-To:" field line. But when I examined similar posts from Lynne. I'd get the same "Unable to verify message signature". > > I think what you're seeing depends on which account Lynne has been using -- the one with the separately purchased digital certificate or the free one from Comodo. > > It's not a bug in Lion, it's just that it was possible to ignore this in Snow Leopard or Leopard unless you examined the headings in detail. > > HTH. And I did write to Nic off list last November mentioning that I'd noticed this weird behavior with his digital certificates. In the case of Gordon and Lynne's digital signature certificates, there may have been some on or off list posts last July. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jul 23, 2011, at 07:49, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I've been cheating a bit. I intend to do what it takes to make friends with the new Lion layout and preview pane, but Lion has generated so much traffic, that in the interest of time I've been primarily using my trusty Netbook and MSIE. >> >> I don't know when this started since before Lion I've normally reviewed this list on the Mac, but since Lion, I've observed that I cannot read any posts authored by Nicolai Svendsen without opening a text attachment in Notepad. As I suspected Nic's posts appear normally in AppleMail. Today I noticed the identical behavior with a post authored by Gordon, even though Lynne's are perfectly readable in MSOE. According to the header, the characteristic that seems to trigger this is that most posts have a message type of "plane text" while the ones from Nic and Gordon are "multipart mixed". I know I've had no problems reading multipart messages in MSOE previously, hence wonder if there is some kind of Lion bug that broke a standard, rendering it more difficult for those reading on other platforms? >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sat Jul 23 20:36:33 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 05:36:33 +1000 Subject: bluetooth keyboard In-Reply-To: <8591AF0B-2462-4468-9BEC-AF3F497BFBC4@gmail.com> References: <8591AF0B-2462-4468-9BEC-AF3F497BFBC4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5C530381-BA7B-4E75-945D-019A35D3C00D@bluebottle.com> how do you get it to tell you how much charge they keyboard has any way just out of interest On 23/07/2011, at 11:00 PM, william lomas wrote: > hi i have jsut put a brand new set of apple rechargable batteries in to my apple keybaord why is it saying 81 percent? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 20:58:25 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:58:25 -0400 Subject: Lid Sleep {Was, Re: My two favourite things about Lion} In-Reply-To: References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <8A952755-C1CB-404E-B413-341A399116DE@me.com> <8C502C89-2E0A-4B6A-B688-A4DDE5D4CBC7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Unfortunately, I'm not seeing this in the preferences window. Thanks, Courtney On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > It isn't under any specific preferences, but in the main window of System preferences. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I can't find this option in system preferences. Which prefernce pane is the lid sleep option under? >> Courtney >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi bryan, >>> >>> On y Mac, it is in Sysem Preferences where all the other panes are located, such as General. It is called Lid Sleep. It has a checkbox called "Do not fall asleep when the lid is closed" in the preference pane, and a "Start NoSleep Utility on Startup" checkbox. I'm not exactly sure what that option does, since the first checkbox already takes care of the sleep. >>> >>> I have a MacBook from late 2008, the 13 inch model. The processor is a 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB, running Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7 (11A511) which should be the official build. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Nic, >>>> >>>> I'm also not finding this option on my late 2010 MBA. Can you give some more details about where you found the "Lic Sleep" checkbox? I don't have a specific preference pane for it and haven't been able to locate it in either of the preference panes where I'd expect to find it: Energy Saver and Displays. >>>> >>>> Also, could you give some details of your system? I wonder if the option might only be available for specific models or graphics cards, etc. >>>> >>>> This is definitely an option I would find very useful. >>>> >>>> TIA, >>>> Bryan >>>> >>>>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sat Jul 23 21:20:34 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:20:34 -0400 Subject: confused about itunes In-Reply-To: <9CE52001-4C17-4BDB-94AC-FAD617E000F8@me.com> References: <220CA2FC-9C3B-431C-AC5B-15FF36F7C553@nc.rr.com> <9CE52001-4C17-4BDB-94AC-FAD617E000F8@me.com> Message-ID: That was the trouble. I couldn't figure out how to get out of the dumb webpage. Turned out, all I had to do was interact. For some reason, that put me back in the source table. Now don't ask me why or how that worked. I just know it did. LOL! I only did that because someone suggested "stop interacting" When I tried that I got that chime that tells you you can't do something. So I thought, ok let me try interact then. For whatever reason, it did the trick. Sometime computers totally confound me. LOL! Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not get bent out of shape. tracyduffy at nc.rr.com On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: > Hi tracy. I'm also an Iphone user. I haven't had those issues. What I can say is this. Try and get back to your sauses list. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 22/07/2011, at 7:21 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > >>> >>> When I connect my iphone and open itunes I get the itunes store page. How do I get it to show me my iphone or library? It used to do that, but now it just goes to the web page and I don't know how to get it back to what it should be. I did download and install an update to my phone's software, but the only way I knew anything was actually happening was that if I tried to close itunes, it gave me a warning that it was downloading or installing the update. I'm so confused! >>> >>> Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not get bent out of shape. >>> tracyduffy at nc.rr.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 21:50:39 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:50:39 +0100 Subject: Reading a webpage using a trackpad In-Reply-To: <047E5FD8EA9043689E31AC396ABECD9B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> <8B657635-46C0-4F58-B092-571088546FD6@mac-access.net> <047E5FD8EA9043689E31AC396ABECD9B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <1094F080-A4E0-4D4B-AED2-F62BF1B9FB19@mac-access.net> hello Geoff I will play with the activities but I wouldn't have a clue where to start with scripts. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:27, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Lynne, I love the trackpad commander, but am also plagued by that problem where a random palm touch alters the insertion point during text entry, resulting in very amusing and hard to put back together data. I wonder though if activities could offer a solution -- i.e. automatically turn off the trackpad commander while in text edit. I don't think the mail composition area is identified as a separate window which could trigger an activity (I like navigating mail via track pad) but perhaps there may be a way to have a script automatically kill off the trackpad commander when it detects that one is in the edit pane? I suppose the trouble there is that like turning off the commander, you'd have to remember to run it :). Still, creative exploitation of the new activities feature might solve the problem in apps such as textEdit and Pages. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Reading a webpage using a trackpad hello Anne Many thanks for this helpful post. I'm just debating now whether to set up a Magic Trackpad on this machine. The Internal trackpad is a pain with the commander turned on. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 17:43, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Lynne, Reading a web page using the trackpad is very similar to doing it on the iPhone. You have the rotor which includes everything that is in the Web Rotor (VO-U), with the addition of characters and words. The selection affects the one-finger swipe up or down. The one-finger swipe left or right goes to previous or next item. A double tap clicks a link, and so on. In addition, you can interact with an item with a two-finger swipe right, and the reverse stops the interaction. A two-finger double tap at the top of the trackpad takes you to the menu bar and a one-finger swipe right takes you through the menu items. Cheers, Anne On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:17, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Using Trackpad Commander and VoiceOver, what's the procedure for reading a web page using the Trackpad? I assume it must involve holding down the VO keys, which could be a bit of a pain. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 21:52:10 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:52:10 +0100 Subject: Lid Sleep {Was, Re: My two favourite things about Lion} In-Reply-To: References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <8A952755-C1CB-404E-B413-341A399116DE@me.com> <8C502C89-2E0A-4B6A-B688-A4DDE5D4CBC7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Nic On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: ? It isn't under any specific preferences, but in the main window of System preferences. Not on our machines it isn't. Lynne Regards, Nic On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I can't find this option in system preferences. Which prefernce pane is the lid sleep option under? > Courtney > On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi bryan, >> >> On y Mac, it is in Sysem Preferences where all the other panes are located, such as General. It is called Lid Sleep. It has a checkbox called "Do not fall asleep when the lid is closed" in the preference pane, and a "Start NoSleep Utility on Startup" checkbox. I'm not exactly sure what that option does, since the first checkbox already takes care of the sleep. >> >> I have a MacBook from late 2008, the 13 inch model. The processor is a 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB, running Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7 (11A511) which should be the official build. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> Hello Nic, >>> >>> I'm also not finding this option on my late 2010 MBA. Can you give some more details about where you found the "Lic Sleep" checkbox? I don't have a specific preference pane for it and haven't been able to locate it in either of the preference panes where I'd expect to find it: Energy Saver and Displays. >>> >>> Also, could you give some details of your system? I wonder if the option might only be available for specific models or graphics cards, etc. >>> >>> This is definitely an option I would find very useful. >>> >>> TIA, >>> Bryan >>> >>>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 21:54:06 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:54:06 +0200 Subject: Lid Sleep {Was, Re: My two favourite things about Lion} In-Reply-To: References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <8A952755-C1CB-404E-B413-341A399116DE@me.com> <8C502C89-2E0A-4B6A-B688-A4DDE5D4CBC7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, I can't understand why no one has it on this list, but I'd be happy to send along the screenshot. I've reinstalled Mac OS X Lion right now just to check, and sure enough, it's still there. Regards, Nic On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > ? It isn't under any specific preferences, but in the main window of System preferences. > > Not on our machines it isn't. > > Lynne > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I can't find this option in system preferences. Which prefernce pane is the lid sleep option under? >> Courtney >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi bryan, >>> >>> On y Mac, it is in Sysem Preferences where all the other panes are located, such as General. It is called Lid Sleep. It has a checkbox called "Do not fall asleep when the lid is closed" in the preference pane, and a "Start NoSleep Utility on Startup" checkbox. I'm not exactly sure what that option does, since the first checkbox already takes care of the sleep. >>> >>> I have a MacBook from late 2008, the 13 inch model. The processor is a 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB, running Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7 (11A511) which should be the official build. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Nic, >>>> >>>> I'm also not finding this option on my late 2010 MBA. Can you give some more details about where you found the "Lic Sleep" checkbox? I don't have a specific preference pane for it and haven't been able to locate it in either of the preference panes where I'd expect to find it: Energy Saver and Displays. >>>> >>>> Also, could you give some details of your system? I wonder if the option might only be available for specific models or graphics cards, etc. >>>> >>>> This is definitely an option I would find very useful. >>>> >>>> TIA, >>>> Bryan >>>> >>>>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 21:56:01 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:56:01 +0100 Subject: Multipart posts don't play nice with other platforms. In-Reply-To: <02F66FED6F1148B19C80345BA2C7A7D1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <02F66FED6F1148B19C80345BA2C7A7D1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <600D428D-852D-4324-A327-6439B0B3BA92@mac-access.net> The reason for this is that Nic and Gordon's messages are digitally signed. You should not be having a problem though. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:49, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, I've been cheating a bit. I intend to do what it takes to make friends with the new Lion layout and preview pane, but Lion has generated so much traffic, that in the interest of time I've been primarily using my trusty Netbook and MSIE. I don't know when this started since before Lion I've normally reviewed this list on the Mac, but since Lion, I've observed that I cannot read any posts authored by Nicolai Svendsen without opening a text attachment in Notepad. As I suspected Nic's posts appear normally in AppleMail. Today I noticed the identical behavior with a post authored by Gordon, even though Lynne's are perfectly readable in MSOE. According to the header, the characteristic that seems to trigger this is that most posts have a message type of "plane text" while the ones from Nic and Gordon are "multipart mixed". I know I've had no problems reading multipart messages in MSOE previously, hence wonder if there is some kind of Lion bug that broke a standard, rendering it more difficult for those reading on other platforms? Best regards. Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sat Jul 23 21:57:18 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:57:18 +0100 Subject: bluetooth keyboard In-Reply-To: <5C530381-BA7B-4E75-945D-019A35D3C00D@bluebottle.com> References: <8591AF0B-2462-4468-9BEC-AF3F497BFBC4@gmail.com> <5C530381-BA7B-4E75-945D-019A35D3C00D@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: Krystal! open the status bar with vo+m+m and arrow to the bluetooth menu arrow down to the keyboard and you will find it in there! hth Colin On 23 Jul 2011, at 20:36, krystal watson wrote: > how do you get it to tell you how much charge they keyboard has any way just out of interest > On 23/07/2011, at 11:00 PM, william lomas wrote: > >> hi i have just put a brand new set of apple rechargeable batteries in to my apple keyboard why is it saying 81 percent? >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 22:00:19 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:00:19 +0100 Subject: Status In-Reply-To: <38C0522A-B575-4532-A050-B388B6C2645D@bluebottle.com> References: <068CB88F-91B5-4D96-892C-E30EAD09F2DA@mac-access.net> <38C0522A-B575-4532-A050-B388B6C2645D@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <801704A0-CC46-46F4-8728-9256F5626352@mac-access.net> Hello Krystal Gordon is home now, thankfully. I won't bore the group with the details but it was quite nasty. Thank you for your support and kind words. I haven't forgotten your file; it's just been a difficult time. i promise you I will get to it very soon. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 19:11, krystal watson wrote: i am so sorry that people like to abuse you you do not deserve to be treated like this as you are such a nice and caring person and i feel that the person who did this should opoligize to you as you both do a terrific job at looking after all of us and i hope gorden gets well soon friendly hugs lynn On 23/07/2011, at 3:58 PM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > A couple of things here. Firstly please be a little patient with me at the moment if you're awaiting support requests. I know it must be frustrating at times; but there's no need to become abusive, as one member has just done. Gordon is in hospital overnight again and I have been somewhat distracted over the last 18 hours or so. Hence the lack of support; I apologise for any inconvenience. > > Those of you waiting to buy books, please don't give up on me; I am doing my best, under difficult circumstances. Your requests are important to us, and I will do as much as I can but be mindful that I'm working under difficult circumstances just at this moment. Hopefully things will be easier later today; but the member who took it upon himself to become abusive will not be included. I'm sick of being the victim of abuse just because spoiled brats can't have their own way! > > Those of you who have been reasonable with me will be given the best service possible under the current circumstances. But I have one further request. Please write the requests using the address you wish to use for your requests. The reasons for that should be obvious; we need to know it's a genuine and verified address. Usually, in fact, we will request that you use the same address by which you are subscribed to the list; since the offer of these books is only open to list members and by using different addresses, you are technically in breech of the offer terms. > > So, as of now, i will only be accepting book requests using subscribed addresses, no excuses. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 22:06:21 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:06:21 +0100 Subject: Multipart posts don't play nice with other platforms. In-Reply-To: References: <02F66FED6F1148B19C80345BA2C7A7D1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <7F133802-D666-4A2B-89FC-AB5DFDE16D8E@mac-access.net> Hello Esther Just to point out; Gordon isn't using a Comodo digital certificate. As you quite rightly say, he tried them; band experienced a lot of problems with them so he removed it and we bought some certificates from GeoTrust. Thus, his certificate is a GeoTrust one. It is valid and functional. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 19:26, Esther wrote: Hi Geoff, Nic's notes to the list are sent with a digital certificate. I think that he applied for one of these using the Comodo digital certificate source that was discussed in the Take Control Guide for Apple Mail. However, even under Snow Leopard, Nic's posts come with an extra "Unable to verify message signature. There was a problem reading the digital signature for this message." and a "Show details" button if you navigate back from the message content scroll area. I'm not of aware of this when I read mail on my iOS devices, but I can find this if I look for it using Apple Mail in Snow Leopard (and I think it also showed up in Leopard, too). A year ago, this happened when Gordon tried to set up a digital certificate for Lynne from Comodo. When he tried sending mail secured with digital certificates (from another service -- not Comodo), there would be an extra line in at the end of the heading "Security: Signed (Gordon Smith)" after the "Reply-To:" field line. But when I examined similar posts from Lynne. I'd get the same "Unable to verify message signature". I think what you're seeing depends on which account Lynne has been using -- the one with the separately purchased digital certificate or the free one from Comodo. It's not a bug in Lion, it's just that it was possible to ignore this in Snow Leopard or Leopard unless you examined the headings in detail. HTH. And I did write to Nic off list last November mentioning that I'd noticed this weird behavior with his digital certificates. In the case of Gordon and Lynne's digital signature certificates, there may have been some on or off list posts last July. Cheers, Esther On Jul 23, 2011, at 07:49, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings, > > I've been cheating a bit. I intend to do what it takes to make friends with the new Lion layout and preview pane, but Lion has generated so much traffic, that in the interest of time I've been primarily using my trusty Netbook and MSIE. > > I don't know when this started since before Lion I've normally reviewed this list on the Mac, but since Lion, I've observed that I cannot read any posts authored by Nicolai Svendsen without opening a text attachment in Notepad. As I suspected Nic's posts appear normally in AppleMail. Today I noticed the identical behavior with a post authored by Gordon, even though Lynne's are perfectly readable in MSOE. According to the header, the characteristic that seems to trigger this is that most posts have a message type of "plane text" while the ones from Nic and Gordon are "multipart mixed". I know I've had no problems reading multipart messages in MSOE previously, hence wonder if there is some kind of Lion bug that broke a standard, rendering it more difficult for those reading on other platforms? > > Best regards. > Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From krbarry at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 22:08:13 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:08:13 -0400 Subject: OS X server? Message-ID: <4e2b3846.0607e50a.276a.ffff85c5@mx.google.com> I am strongly considering buying a new Mac Mini but the model I want is the quad core which runs server. However, I am not terribly interested in running it as a server, not yet at least, so can I use a server version of the OS just as a single user? That is, I know you can do that, but will the interface be different? In other words, will I notice any real difference as a user? Thanks. kevin Kevin Barry If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jul 23 22:09:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:40 +0100 Subject: OS X server? In-Reply-To: <4e2b3846.0607e50a.276a.ffff85c5@mx.google.com> References: <4e2b3846.0607e50a.276a.ffff85c5@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Kevin In that event I recommend you buy the regular version of OSX. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 22:08, Kevin Barry wrote: I am strongly considering buying a new Mac Mini but the model I want is the quad core which runs server. However, I am not terribly interested in running it as a server, not yet at least, so can I use a server version of the OS just as a single user? That is, I know you can do that, but will the interface be different? In other words, will I notice any real difference as a user? Thanks. kevin Kevin Barry If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sat Jul 23 22:21:19 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:21:19 +0100 Subject: Reading a webpage using a trackpad In-Reply-To: <1094F080-A4E0-4D4B-AED2-F62BF1B9FB19@mac-access.net> References: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> <8B657635-46C0-4F58-B092-571088546FD6@mac-access.net> <047E5FD8EA9043689E31AC396ABECD9B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <1094F080-A4E0-4D4B-AED2-F62BF1B9FB19@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <463D8B89-1AE8-40DA-BAB9-A92866C89DF7@virginmedia.com> Hi Gordon or Lynne! :] Just slightly different thing! If you go to read email's with the track pad there is a command for opening the message text that people was having trouble with! I found out by accident the command is one finger on the track pad at the heading field you know subject, date and so on! And press the control key and when your finished press the control key again to go back to headers! The way people were thinking it worked was holding the control key and tapping the track pad and this of course did not work! So they thought it was broken! Like I said I found out by accident, whilst playing with the pad! hth Colin On 23 Jul 2011, at 21:50, Gordon Smith wrote: > hello Geoff > > I will play with the activities but I wouldn't have a clue where to start with scripts. > > Lynne > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:27, Geoff Waaler wrote: > > Hi Lynne, > > I love the trackpad commander, but am also plagued by that problem where a random palm touch alters the insertion point during text entry, resulting in very amusing and hard to put back together data. > > I wonder though if activities could offer a solution -- i.e. automatically turn off the trackpad commander while in text edit. I don't think the mail composition area is identified as a separate window which could trigger an activity (I like navigating mail via track pad) but perhaps there may be a way to have a script automatically kill off the trackpad commander when it detects that one is in the edit pane? I suppose the trouble there is that like turning off the commander, you'd have to remember to run it :). Still, creative exploitation of the new activities feature might solve the problem in apps such as textEdit and Pages. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 12:48 PM > Subject: Re: Reading a webpage using a trackpad > > > hello Anne > > Many thanks for this helpful post. I'm just debating now whether to set up a Magic Trackpad on this machine. The Internal trackpad is a pain with the commander turned on. > > Lynne > > > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 17:43, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Lynne, > > Reading a web page using the trackpad is very similar to doing it on the iPhone. You have the rotor which includes everything that is in the Web Rotor (VO-U), with the addition of characters and words. The selection affects the one-finger swipe up or down. The one-finger swipe left or right goes to previous or next item. A double tap clicks a link, and so on. In addition, you can interact with an item with a two-finger swipe right, and the reverse stops the interaction. > > A two-finger double tap at the top of the trackpad takes you to the menu bar and a one-finger swipe right takes you through the menu items. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:17, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> Using Trackpad Commander and VoiceOver, what's the procedure for reading a web page using the Trackpad? I assume it must involve holding down the VO keys, which could be a bit of a pain. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 22:21:56 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:21:56 -0400 Subject: OS X server? In-Reply-To: References: <4e2b3846.0607e50a.276a.ffff85c5@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4e2b3b7d.4988e50a.7436.ffff87ab@mx.google.com> Could you be a bit more specific? I'd prefer the regular version of OSX but the hardware I want comes with Server. Kevin At 05:09 PM 7/23/2011, you wrote: >Kevin > >In that event I recommend you buy the regular version of OSX. > >Lynne > >On 23 Jul 2011, at 22:08, Kevin Barry wrote: > > I am strongly considering buying a > new Mac Mini but the model I want is the quad core which runs server. > However, I am not terribly interested in running it as a server, > not yet at least, so can I use a server version of the OS just as a > single user? > That is, I know you can do that, but will the interface be different? >In other words, will I notice any real difference as a user? >Thanks. >kevin > > > > Kevin Barry > >If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Jul 23 22:57:41 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:57:41 -1000 Subject: Multipart posts don't play nice with other platforms. In-Reply-To: <7F133802-D666-4A2B-89FC-AB5DFDE16D8E@mac-access.net> References: <02F66FED6F1148B19C80345BA2C7A7D1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <7F133802-D666-4A2B-89FC-AB5DFDE16D8E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Lynne, When you post from the mac-access support account, which shows up as from "Gordon & Lynne Smith" there are no digital certificates. Similarly, when you post from your personal mac-access.net email account, which shows up as from "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith", there are no digital certificates. But when I read posts from Gordon's personal mac-access.net email account now, which shows up as from "Gordon Smith", I can view the "Unable to verify message signature" alerts. This only started happening recently, meaning the first one of these I noticed was in the middle of the "Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again!" thread -- not the first post, but your reply to Rose two days ago. After that, every post from Gordon's personal mac-access.net email account contains that alert. (I'm backed up on reading mail, so I have the last few days on tap). What Gordon told me last year, was that he had determined that Comodo's free certificates contain your name, but that each one contains links back to their own service. I'm wondering whether the certificates in question are being routed through a machine whose links differ from the one the certificate was issued for, and that is the cause of the warnings. I'm also confused, because for quite some time there were no certifications on posts from Gordon's personal mac-access.net email account. With the GeoTrust certificates, I should see a Security field after the "Reply to:" line containing the "Security: Signed (Gordon Smith)" in the message headers area of the post. I find this all puzzling, but it has nothing to do with Lion. It may have to do with the way the accounts and their certificates are set up, and also whether any changes have been made to the email account after the certificate was issued. Nic's certificates on this list have always been strange, since he started using them. At least that's consistent . HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:06, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Esther > > Just to point out; Gordon isn't using a Comodo digital certificate. As you quite rightly say, he tried them; band experienced a lot of problems with them so he removed it and we bought some certificates from GeoTrust. Thus, his certificate is a GeoTrust one. It is valid and functional. > > Lynne > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 19:26, Esther wrote: > > Hi Geoff, > > Nic's notes to the list are sent with a digital certificate. I think that he applied for one of these using the Comodo digital certificate source that was discussed in the Take Control Guide for Apple Mail. However, even under Snow Leopard, Nic's posts come with an extra "Unable to verify message signature. There was a problem reading the digital signature for this message." and a "Show details" button if you navigate back from the message content scroll area. I'm not of aware of this when I read mail on my iOS devices, but I can find this if I look for it using Apple Mail in Snow Leopard (and I think it also showed up in Leopard, too). > > A year ago, this happened when Gordon tried to set up a digital certificate for Lynne from Comodo. When he tried sending mail secured with digital certificates (from another service -- not Comodo), there would be an extra line in at the end of the heading "Security: Signed (Gordon Smith)" after the "Reply-To:" field line. But when I examined similar posts from Lynne. I'd get the same "Unable to verify message signature". > > I think what you're seeing depends on which account Lynne has been using -- the one with the separately purchased digital certificate or the free one from Comodo. > > It's not a bug in Lion, it's just that it was possible to ignore this in Snow Leopard or Leopard unless you examined the headings in detail. > > HTH. And I did write to Nic off list last November mentioning that I'd noticed this weird behavior with his digital certificates. In the case of Gordon and Lynne's digital signature certificates, there may have been some on or off list posts last July. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jul 23, 2011, at 07:49, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I've been cheating a bit. I intend to do what it takes to make friends with the new Lion layout and preview pane, but Lion has generated so much traffic, that in the interest of time I've been primarily using my trusty Netbook and MSIE. >> >> I don't know when this started since before Lion I've normally reviewed this list on the Mac, but since Lion, I've observed that I cannot read any posts authored by Nicolai Svendsen without opening a text attachment in Notepad. As I suspected Nic's posts appear normally in AppleMail. Today I noticed the identical behavior with a post authored by Gordon, even though Lynne's are perfectly readable in MSOE. According to the header, the characteristic that seems to trigger this is that most posts have a message type of "plane text" while the ones from Nic and Gordon are "multipart mixed". I know I've had no problems reading multipart messages in MSOE previously, hence wonder if there is some kind of Lion bug that broke a standard, rendering it more difficult for those reading on other platforms? >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff From stuartyoung at samobile.net Sat Jul 23 23:19:56 2011 From: stuartyoung at samobile.net (Stuart Young) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:19:56 +0100 Subject: icsepting file trancefirs in Skype Message-ID: Hi all. how do i go about accepting file trance firs in Skype version 5 for the mac?. any help would be grate regards Stuart From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sat Jul 23 23:47:10 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:47:10 +0100 Subject: Lid Sleep {Was, Re: My two favourite things about Lion} In-Reply-To: References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <8A952755-C1CB-404E-B413-341A399116DE@me.com> <8C502C89-2E0A-4B6A-B688-A4DDE5D4CBC7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Nick, just out of curiosity, is your machine connected to an external display? D?nal On 23 Jul 2011, at 21:54, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > I can't understand why no one has it on this list, but I'd be happy to send along the screenshot. I've reinstalled Mac OS X Lion right now just to check, and sure enough, it's still there. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Nic >> >> On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >> ? It isn't under any specific preferences, but in the main window of System preferences. >> >> Not on our machines it isn't. >> >> Lynne >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I can't find this option in system preferences. Which prefernce pane is the lid sleep option under? >>> Courtney >>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> >>>> Hi bryan, >>>> >>>> On y Mac, it is in Sysem Preferences where all the other panes are located, such as General. It is called Lid Sleep. It has a checkbox called "Do not fall asleep when the lid is closed" in the preference pane, and a "Start NoSleep Utility on Startup" checkbox. I'm not exactly sure what that option does, since the first checkbox already takes care of the sleep. >>>> >>>> I have a MacBook from late 2008, the 13 inch model. The processor is a 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB, running Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7 (11A511) which should be the official build. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Nic >>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Nic, >>>>> >>>>> I'm also not finding this option on my late 2010 MBA. Can you give some more details about where you found the "Lic Sleep" checkbox? I don't have a specific preference pane for it and haven't been able to locate it in either of the preference panes where I'd expect to find it: Energy Saver and Displays. >>>>> >>>>> Also, could you give some details of your system? I wonder if the option might only be available for specific models or graphics cards, etc. >>>>> >>>>> This is definitely an option I would find very useful. >>>>> >>>>> TIA, >>>>> Bryan >>>>> >>>>>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>>> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 23:48:43 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:48:43 +0200 Subject: Lid Sleep {Was, Re: My two favourite things about Lion} In-Reply-To: References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <8A952755-C1CB-404E-B413-341A399116DE@me.com> <8C502C89-2E0A-4B6A-B688-A4DDE5D4CBC7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <76CB61FB-B392-4AB9-A11C-3A51A4E24A04@gmail.com> Hello Don?l Nope! My MacBook is not connected to anything, actually. Regards, Nic On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:47 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Nick, just out of curiosity, is your machine connected to an external display? > > D?nal > On 23 Jul 2011, at 21:54, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi Lynne, >> >> I can't understand why no one has it on this list, but I'd be happy to send along the screenshot. I've reinstalled Mac OS X Lion right now just to check, and sure enough, it's still there. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Nic >>> >>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> >>> ? It isn't under any specific preferences, but in the main window of System preferences. >>> >>> Not on our machines it isn't. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I can't find this option in system preferences. Which prefernce pane is the lid sleep option under? >>>> Courtney >>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi bryan, >>>>> >>>>> On y Mac, it is in Sysem Preferences where all the other panes are located, such as General. It is called Lid Sleep. It has a checkbox called "Do not fall asleep when the lid is closed" in the preference pane, and a "Start NoSleep Utility on Startup" checkbox. I'm not exactly sure what that option does, since the first checkbox already takes care of the sleep. >>>>> >>>>> I have a MacBook from late 2008, the 13 inch model. The processor is a 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB, running Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7 (11A511) which should be the official build. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Nic >>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Nic, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm also not finding this option on my late 2010 MBA. Can you give some more details about where you found the "Lic Sleep" checkbox? I don't have a specific preference pane for it and haven't been able to locate it in either of the preference panes where I'd expect to find it: Energy Saver and Displays. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, could you give some details of your system? I wonder if the option might only be available for specific models or graphics cards, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is definitely an option I would find very useful. >>>>>> >>>>>> TIA, >>>>>> Bryan >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>>>> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sat Jul 23 23:51:20 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:51:20 +0100 Subject: Lid Sleep {Was, Re: My two favourite things about Lion} In-Reply-To: <76CB61FB-B392-4AB9-A11C-3A51A4E24A04@gmail.com> References: <8D046EED-A7B4-4E9E-946F-59205DB8500F@anarchie.org.uk> <55E465BE-463C-40E8-B543-B2E3B5D6FA49@computing.dcu.ie> <84420FDB-ED84-4871-A885-30B5EEA2924E@computing.dcu.ie> <8A7DC991-517C-4912-802F-847A8FC765C9@gmail.com> <8A952755-C1CB-404E-B413-341A399116DE@me.com> <8C502C89-2E0A-4B6A-B688-A4DDE5D4CBC7@gmail.com> <76CB61FB-B392-4AB9-A11C-3A51A4E24A04@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9499CD27-A5C6-4684-995E-EF62E5B88887@computing.dcu.ie> Bizarre, because I don't have it either. On 23 Jul 2011, at 23:48, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hello Don?l > > Nope! My MacBook is not connected to anything, actually. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:47 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Nick, just out of curiosity, is your machine connected to an external display? >> >> D?nal >> On 23 Jul 2011, at 21:54, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Lynne, >>> >>> I can't understand why no one has it on this list, but I'd be happy to send along the screenshot. I've reinstalled Mac OS X Lion right now just to check, and sure enough, it's still there. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Nic >>>> >>>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 18:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>> >>>> ? It isn't under any specific preferences, but in the main window of System preferences. >>>> >>>> Not on our machines it isn't. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Nic >>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I can't find this option in system preferences. Which prefernce pane is the lid sleep option under? >>>>> Courtney >>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi bryan, >>>>>> >>>>>> On y Mac, it is in Sysem Preferences where all the other panes are located, such as General. It is called Lid Sleep. It has a checkbox called "Do not fall asleep when the lid is closed" in the preference pane, and a "Start NoSleep Utility on Startup" checkbox. I'm not exactly sure what that option does, since the first checkbox already takes care of the sleep. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a MacBook from late 2008, the 13 inch model. The processor is a 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB, running Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7 (11A511) which should be the official build. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Nic >>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Nic, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm also not finding this option on my late 2010 MBA. Can you give some more details about where you found the "Lic Sleep" checkbox? I don't have a specific preference pane for it and haven't been able to locate it in either of the preference panes where I'd expect to find it: Energy Saver and Displays. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, could you give some details of your system? I wonder if the option might only be available for specific models or graphics cards, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is definitely an option I would find very useful. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TIA, >>>>>>> Bryan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>>>>> I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but one of my favorite features in under system Preferences>Lid sleep. This, obviously, lets you control when your Mac goes to sleep when closing the lid. I never have had the need to do this, but it's still nice they added it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From orin8722 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 00:44:17 2011 From: orin8722 at gmail.com (Orin) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 19:44:17 -0400 Subject: Audio editor that will let me add background sounds/music to a file and or speech? Message-ID: <774166A8-1936-402B-8F14-C696FE8C2A9E@gmail.com> Hi all, Is there a good audio editor out there that will let me add a background sound, background music and then I'll add the speech overtop? I'm sure most editors can do this as basic function, but what is the easiest one to work with when you want to do this on the Mac? I'm sure there's a better method than Cut and Paste. Thanks. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 From cjsims at me.com Sun Jul 24 01:57:04 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:57:04 +1000 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! > > Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. > On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >> >> Thanks >> TC :) >> James >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 02:28:59 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:28:59 -0400 Subject: Bugs in Lion In-Reply-To: <533C2135095F462DA154C6CC4C8B68F5@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <32B3F745-0660-4D40-9130-FE79476BBCE6@gmail.com> <533C2135095F462DA154C6CC4C8B68F5@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <4FEB92A6-A638-4EA8-A2F3-E571E91788E1@gmail.com> I'm finding that if I command-tab around, the voice I want for mail, for example, will not be the voice that speaks. At first I thought the actual speaking voice was from the previous application that I had just left, but this is not the case. If I've picked Samantha, for example, to be the default voice in mail, sometimes another voice like Alex will be the default voice, but only when I've been command-tabbing around. I'm thinking this is a bug, as it bugs me! On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Nicolai, > > If I understand your scenario, I am unable to reproduce the problem. I had one instance where VO failed to switch back to the default voice, but that has only happened once, hence I have no helpful info to supply for a bug report. > > Sorry for the late reply, but I did not read your post until just now for reasons described in a subsequent post. Also apologize if this answer is redundant, but I don't recall seeing anything else on this thread. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nicolai Svendsen > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:04 PM > Subject: Bugs in Lion > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Jul 24 03:10:51 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:10:51 +1000 Subject: icsepting file trancefirs in Skype In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2EA1F462-4B14-4289-8C31-A51B3A92C7E8@bluebottle.com> well i cheat and automatically except them you can set this in Skype settings please note make sure you know who the sender is and if you do not know what the file is do not open it as it will except all files with auto revive on cheers 24/07/2011, at 8:19 AM, Stuart Young wrote: > Hi all. > how do i go about accepting file trance firs in Skype version 5 for the mac?. > any help would be grate > regards Stuart > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 03:45:45 2011 From: skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com (Kliph&Sharrie) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:45:45 -0500 Subject: user name change? Message-ID: <001201cc49ab$ca1ff8f0$5e5fead0$@gmail.com> Is it possible to change your skype user name? From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jul 24 03:54:05 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:54:05 +1000 Subject: Update for 1 Password available Message-ID: <4E2B894D.1070508@internode.on.net> This update fixes a lot of Safari issues, read the update notes for the update. -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From cjsims at me.com Sun Jul 24 04:26:01 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:26:01 +1000 Subject: user name change? In-Reply-To: <001201cc49ab$ca1ff8f0$5e5fead0$@gmail.com> References: <001201cc49ab$ca1ff8f0$5e5fead0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1B8668E6-B65E-4124-964D-C55F92354491@me.com> Hi. Unfortunatly, this isn't going to be possible I'm assuming that what you want to do is to change your skype name. it is possible to change the real name that you have on skype. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 24/07/2011, at 12:45 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Is it possible to change your skype user name? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From va3ets2000 at me.com Sun Jul 24 04:32:11 2011 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:32:11 -0400 Subject: user name change? In-Reply-To: <1B8668E6-B65E-4124-964D-C55F92354491@me.com> References: <001201cc49ab$ca1ff8f0$5e5fead0$@gmail.com> <1B8668E6-B65E-4124-964D-C55F92354491@me.com> Message-ID: No, this isn't possible to change your actual Skype username, without getting a whole new account. On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:26 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: > Hi. Unfortunatly, this isn't going to be possible I'm assuming that what you want to do is to change your skype name. it is possible to change the real name that you have on skype. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 24/07/2011, at 12:45 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > >> Is it possible to change your skype user name? >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From va3ets2000 at me.com Sun Jul 24 04:42:58 2011 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:42:58 -0400 Subject: icsepting file trancefirs in Skype In-Reply-To: <2EA1F462-4B14-4289-8C31-A51B3A92C7E8@bluebottle.com> References: <2EA1F462-4B14-4289-8C31-A51B3A92C7E8@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <4A0C9022-B8DC-445F-BAE0-D42656C80B13@me.com> Hi Stuart, Like Krystal says, you can set Skype to automatically accept files if you like. personally I think this is a security risk, but if you want to do it, you can go to Skype preferences with command-comma, and under general, you'll find a checkbox that says automatically accept file transfers. Hope this helps. On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:10 PM, krystal watson wrote: > well i cheat and automatically except them you can set this in Skype settings please note make sure you know who the sender is and if you do not know what the file is do not open it as it will except all files with auto revive on cheers 24/07/2011, at 8:19 AM, Stuart Young wrote: > >> Hi all. >> how do i go about accepting file trance firs in Skype version 5 for the mac?. >> any help would be grate >> regards Stuart >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 07:06:25 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:06:25 -0700 Subject: user name change? In-Reply-To: <1B8668E6-B65E-4124-964D-C55F92354491@me.com> References: <001201cc49ab$ca1ff8f0$5e5fead0$@gmail.com> <1B8668E6-B65E-4124-964D-C55F92354491@me.com> Message-ID: No. you need to recreate your account. I have a list where we discuss skype in all its glory. go to my webpage at the bottom of most of my sigs for more info. Take care. http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html and go to the list thingy. Take cre. On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: > Hi. Unfortunatly, this isn't going to be possible I'm assuming that what you want to do is to change your skype name. it is possible to change the real name that you have on skype. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 24/07/2011, at 12:45 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > >> Is it possible to change your skype user name? >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From e.zwicker at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 24 07:31:36 2011 From: e.zwicker at sympatico.ca (Earle) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 02:31:36 -0400 Subject: documentation. In-Reply-To: <31A87FAD-0A89-4B0D-ACEB-758ACA732EAD@gmail.com> References: <31A87FAD-0A89-4B0D-ACEB-758ACA732EAD@gmail.com> Message-ID: This problem has been fixed. I was able to get into the getting started guide with no problems at all. ---------- Earle Skype, Twitter, Facebook, and Yahoo: rowdyamerican MSN: peterson_33 at sympatico.ca On 2011-07-20, at 4:40 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yep. someone else on twitter is receiving this as well. I hope they fix this soon. > On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:28 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> HI all, >> >> I just tried to go to the "getting started" guide and am receiving a 404 error. Anyone else? >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 07:37:47 2011 From: skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com (Kliph&Sharrie) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 01:37:47 -0500 Subject: user name change? In-Reply-To: References: <001201cc49ab$ca1ff8f0$5e5fead0$@gmail.com> <1B8668E6-B65E-4124-964D-C55F92354491@me.com> Message-ID: <6A0BB4D6-1AB0-4F19-93F1-D62CC9231627@gmail.com> yup, already did it. And you can't even delete the old one. Searched the FAQ's and it said just take all of your personal info out, and it will delete itself after a month of no activity. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:06 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No. you need to recreate your account. I have a list where we discuss skype in all its glory. go to my webpage at the bottom of most of my sigs for more info. > > Take care. > > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html and go to the list thingy. > > Take cre. > On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: > >> Hi. Unfortunatly, this isn't going to be possible I'm assuming that what you want to do is to change your skype name. it is possible to change the real name that you have on skype. >> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >> >> On 24/07/2011, at 12:45 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: >> >>> Is it possible to change your skype user name? >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 07:40:02 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:40:02 -0700 Subject: icsepting file trancefirs in Skype In-Reply-To: <4A0C9022-B8DC-445F-BAE0-D42656C80B13@me.com> References: <2EA1F462-4B14-4289-8C31-A51B3A92C7E8@bluebottle.com> <4A0C9022-B8DC-445F-BAE0-D42656C80B13@me.com> Message-ID: and if you do deide to do that, make sure it's from contacts only. and scan them with sophos or something. On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Hi Stuart, Like Krystal says, you can set Skype to automatically accept files if you like. personally I think this is a security risk, but if you want to do it, you can go to Skype preferences with command-comma, and under general, you'll find a checkbox that says automatically accept file transfers. Hope this helps. > On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:10 PM, krystal watson wrote: > >> well i cheat and automatically except them you can set this in Skype settings please note make sure you know who the sender is and if you do not know what the file is do not open it as it will except all files with auto revive on cheers 24/07/2011, at 8:19 AM, Stuart Young wrote: >> >>> Hi all. >>> how do i go about accepting file trance firs in Skype version 5 for the mac?. >>> any help would be grate >>> regards Stuart >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 07:41:45 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:41:45 -0700 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> Message-ID: yeh i'm still trying to reinstall as my public folder broke badly. I tried running the unix executable file with no joy. and I did not find a .pkg thing any ware. Take care all. On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: > When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >> >> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>> >>> Thanks >>> TC :) >>> James >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 07:42:42 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:42:42 -0700 Subject: Audio editor that will let me add background sounds/music to a file and or speech? In-Reply-To: <774166A8-1936-402B-8F14-C696FE8C2A9E@gmail.com> References: <774166A8-1936-402B-8F14-C696FE8C2A9E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9A407F61-DE53-4CFA-9CD4-45B83BE2F27D@gmail.com> I use amadeus pro to do it. and I do use copy and paste. I'm getting ready to crash but maybe in the morning I'll post instructions on how to do it in amadeus pro. Take care. On Jul 23, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Orin wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there a good audio editor out there that will let me add a background sound, background music and then I'll add the speech overtop? I'm sure most editors can do this as basic function, but what is the easiest one to work with when you want to do this on the Mac? I'm sure there's a better method than Cut and Paste. > > Thanks. > > > Orin > orin8722 at gmail.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks > Skype: orin1112 > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 07:48:59 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 07:48:59 +0100 Subject: battery usage Message-ID: <65379383-C92C-47EF-A353-F303E4799DAC@gmail.com> hi all where with a magic trackpad can i find the remaining battery percentage please? Thanks, WIll From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 08:30:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:30:19 -0700 Subject: mac mail and rss Message-ID: <6F9E405E-D2AA-4FCF-9A38-7D7272F2F11D@gmail.com> Hello to all. I'm trying to import all of my rss feeds but vo down through the list of folders shows me not an rss folder. where is it at? I do have mail set to read rss stuff so where in the blazes is it at? I miss my articles. lol! Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 12:54:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:54:12 +0100 Subject: Reading a webpage using a trackpad In-Reply-To: <463D8B89-1AE8-40DA-BAB9-A92866C89DF7@virginmedia.com> References: <1FFBB7C5-983D-4C37-8B5A-84E602434703@mac-access.net> <8B657635-46C0-4F58-B092-571088546FD6@mac-access.net> <047E5FD8EA9043689E31AC396ABECD9B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <1094F080-A4E0-4D4B-AED2-F62BF1B9FB19@mac-access.net> <463D8B89-1AE8-40DA-BAB9-A92866C89DF7@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <15F8E3CD-ACD8-47D6-B641-C065DC229EED@mac-access.net> Hello Colin This is interesting. But I have to say that it seems a little odd if you're using a magic trackpad which doesn't even necessarily have to be used within a few meters of the computer. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 22:21, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Gordon or Lynne! :] Just slightly different thing! If you go to read email's with the track pad there is a command for opening the message text that people was having trouble with! I found out by accident the command is one finger on the track pad at the heading field you know subject, date and so on! And press the control key and when your finished press the control key again to go back to headers! The way people were thinking it worked was holding the control key and tapping the track pad and this of course did not work! So they thought it was broken! Like I said I found out by accident, whilst playing with the pad! hth Colin From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 12:55:23 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:55:23 +0100 Subject: OS X server? In-Reply-To: <4e2b3b7d.4988e50a.7436.ffff87ab@mx.google.com> References: <4e2b3846.0607e50a.276a.ffff85c5@mx.google.com> <4e2b3b7d.4988e50a.7436.ffff87ab@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello Kevin Just buy the regular version of OSX and then do a from the ground up install and zap the server completely. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 22:21, Kevin Barry wrote: Could you be a bit more specific? I'd prefer the regular version of OSX but the hardware I want comes with Server. From gordon at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 12:56:47 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:56:47 +0100 Subject: Multipart posts don't play nice with other platforms. In-Reply-To: References: <02F66FED6F1148B19C80345BA2C7A7D1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <7F133802-D666-4A2B-89FC-AB5DFDE16D8E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <950B54E7-9F6A-4F95-A6A9-71EAD4F127A3@mac-access.net> Hello Esther This is correct; because each account has its own certificate where applicable, we just haven't got around to obtaining the rest yet; but we will. Lynne On 23 Jul 2011, at 22:57, Esther wrote: Hello Lynne, When you post from the mac-access support account, which shows up as from "Gordon & Lynne Smith" there are no digital certificates. Similarly, when you post from your personal mac-access.net email account, which shows up as from "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith", there are no digital certificates. But when I read posts from Gordon's personal mac-access.net email account now, which shows up as from "Gordon Smith", I can view the "Unable to verify message signature" alerts. This only started happening recently, meaning the first one of these I noticed was in the middle of the "Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again!" thread -- not the first post, but your reply to Rose two days ago. After that, every post from Gordon's personal mac-access.net email account contains that alert. (I'm backed up on reading mail, so I have the last few days on tap). What Gordon told me last year, was that he had determined that Comodo's free certificates contain your name, but that each one contains links back to their own service. I'm wondering whether the certificates in question are being routed through a machine whose links differ from the one the certificate was issued for, and that is the cause of the warnings. I'm also confused, because for quite some time there were no certifications on posts from Gordon's personal mac-access.net email account. With the GeoTrust certificates, I should see a Security field after the "Reply to:" line containing the "Security: Signed (Gordon Smith)" in the message headers area of the post. I find this all puzzling, but it has nothing to do with Lion. It may have to do with the way the accounts and their certificates are set up, and also whether any changes have been made to the email account after the certificate was issued. Nic's certificates on this list have always been strange, since he started using them. At least that's consistent . HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:06, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Esther > > Just to point out; Gordon isn't using a Comodo digital certificate. As you quite rightly say, he tried them; band experienced a lot of problems with them so he removed it and we bought some certificates from GeoTrust. Thus, his certificate is a GeoTrust one. It is valid and functional. > > Lynne > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 19:26, Esther wrote: > > Hi Geoff, > > Nic's notes to the list are sent with a digital certificate. I think that he applied for one of these using the Comodo digital certificate source that was discussed in the Take Control Guide for Apple Mail. However, even under Snow Leopard, Nic's posts come with an extra "Unable to verify message signature. There was a problem reading the digital signature for this message." and a "Show details" button if you navigate back from the message content scroll area. I'm not of aware of this when I read mail on my iOS devices, but I can find this if I look for it using Apple Mail in Snow Leopard (and I think it also showed up in Leopard, too). > > A year ago, this happened when Gordon tried to set up a digital certificate for Lynne from Comodo. When he tried sending mail secured with digital certificates (from another service -- not Comodo), there would be an extra line in at the end of the heading "Security: Signed (Gordon Smith)" after the "Reply-To:" field line. But when I examined similar posts from Lynne. I'd get the same "Unable to verify message signature". > > I think what you're seeing depends on which account Lynne has been using -- the one with the separately purchased digital certificate or the free one from Comodo. > > It's not a bug in Lion, it's just that it was possible to ignore this in Snow Leopard or Leopard unless you examined the headings in detail. > > HTH. And I did write to Nic off list last November mentioning that I'd noticed this weird behavior with his digital certificates. In the case of Gordon and Lynne's digital signature certificates, there may have been some on or off list posts last July. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jul 23, 2011, at 07:49, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I've been cheating a bit. I intend to do what it takes to make friends with the new Lion layout and preview pane, but Lion has generated so much traffic, that in the interest of time I've been primarily using my trusty Netbook and MSIE. >> >> I don't know when this started since before Lion I've normally reviewed this list on the Mac, but since Lion, I've observed that I cannot read any posts authored by Nicolai Svendsen without opening a text attachment in Notepad. As I suspected Nic's posts appear normally in AppleMail. Today I noticed the identical behavior with a post authored by Gordon, even though Lynne's are perfectly readable in MSOE. According to the header, the characteristic that seems to trigger this is that most posts have a message type of "plane text" while the ones from Nic and Gordon are "multipart mixed". I know I've had no problems reading multipart messages in MSOE previously, hence wonder if there is some kind of Lion bug that broke a standard, rendering it more difficult for those reading on other platforms? >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 12:59:01 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:59:01 +0100 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> Message-ID: Chris We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. Lynne On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! > > Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. > On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >> >> Thanks >> TC :) >> James >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 13:02:04 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:02:04 +0100 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> Message-ID: <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> Hi Lynne, I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? Thanks TC :) James On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Chris > > We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. > > Lynne > > On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: > > When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >> >> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>> >>> Thanks >>> TC :) >>> James >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Sun Jul 24 13:14:36 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Loose Canon) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:14:36 +0200 Subject: Typos while reading mail? Message-ID: Hi, I am still on Snow Leopard and hope to upgrade to Lion when it will be released on Flash drive next month. We have no iTunes store here, so it is not out of option to delay this upgrade. Here is my problem: I recently updated my version of Safari to 5.1 and I am happy with what I am seeing there. However, I noticed that whenever I am reading email messages, Voiceover is now telling me of any word that isn't spelt correctly. This even happens with names of people. While this behaviour is okay while writing messages, it is irritating me when reading messages. Any suggestions on how I can stop this? I am hesitant to turn off text attributes in the VO utility as I still want to know of any typos whenever I am editing documents. Thanks in advance, Loose Canon From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 13:16:07 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:16:07 +0100 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> Hello James From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. Just from memory as it was a while ago. Lynne On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: Hi Lynne, I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? Thanks TC :) James On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Chris > > We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. > > Lynne > > On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: > > When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >> >> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>> >>> Thanks >>> TC :) >>> James >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 13:37:09 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:37:09 +0100 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. TC :) On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. > > Just from memory as it was a while ago. > > Lynne > > On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Hi Lynne, > > I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? > > Thanks > TC :) > James > On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Chris >> >> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >> >> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >> >> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>> >>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> TC :) >>>> James >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 13:43:30 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:43:30 +0100 Subject: Bug in Mail when checking spelling? Message-ID: <10CBAE6A-2485-4FBE-BE3B-F56970BD9C28@mac-access.net> Hi folks, Has anyone else noticed that if Mail is set to check spelling just before the message is sent, that if you jump back to the message to check the spelling in context that the message gets sent automatically? Lyn and I have both discovered this and wondered if anyone else had noticed it. Thanks TC :) James From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 13:50:25 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:50:25 +0100 Subject: comboboxes Message-ID: <42E45948-C8D6-44F2-8A86-2EDDA4321EE8@gmail.com> hi in voiceover why can i not just up and down arrow through a combo box? control option lock is off and is quicknav, using SL 10.6 the latest release of that OS From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 14:59:39 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:59:39 -0400 Subject: lost mail boxes from lion update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In the menu bar under view, there is a choice to show or hide mailbox list. If yours says show, then they are hidden and you need to press enter there, or use the shortcut key combo given. Marcy On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Mark Furness wrote: > After I downloaded and installed Lion, I went to mail. I can not find any of my mail boxes. > > I went and selected classic view, but that was not the answer. Did I loose them and all saved messages? > > Unhappy Mark > The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Jul 24 15:27:47 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:27:47 +0100 Subject: an itunes problem Message-ID: <4e2c2bc8.c7cde30a.26b7.ffffcf11@mx.google.com> i am having a problem deleteing items from my i-tunes library. i have made sure that my view is set to list view and tried to navigate to things i want to remove but for some reason the delete option seems to be permanently dimmed. i am trying to delete files from my i-tunes library because i have imported some rajio plays only some of the plays have not imported properly i don't think because when they transfered to my i-phone, a play i was listening to missed bits of dialogue which i think i might need to reimport again in order to solve the problem. From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 16:17:53 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:17:53 +0100 Subject: comboboxes In-Reply-To: <42E45948-C8D6-44F2-8A86-2EDDA4321EE8@gmail.com> References: <42E45948-C8D6-44F2-8A86-2EDDA4321EE8@gmail.com> Message-ID: William In most cases, I believe that you can, if you interact with it first. Lynne On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:50, william lomas wrote: hi in voiceover why can i not just up and down arrow through a combo box? control option lock is off and is quicknav, using SL 10.6 the latest release of that OS <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lmumford at uga.edu Sun Jul 24 16:18:34 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:18:34 +0000 Subject: Other Safari problems too was Typos while reading mail? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <93363946-F712-444F-8CAD-758019E3C0DA@uga.edu> I am also using Snow Leopard, and like you, VO is now telling me every time it thinks there is a misspelled word when I am reading my emails... just imagine how irritating it is when you're repeatedly being told VO is a misspelled word on this list! In addition, I now have 2 other problems on Safari: 1. When I am in a text edit box like a search box or user name box, there is no longer any character echo as I type. Just total silence (I know I am interacting with the box because what I have just typed in silence is read back to me when I use VO plus the arrow keys, however the individual characters are not read when I use the arrow keys or the backspace key which erases this is only happening in Safari- the characters but does not announce what it's doing. The character echo works fine in pages and mail. 2. Safari no longer automatically interacts with the html content of any web pages. I now have to manually interact with the HTML content every time a new web page is opened/loaded, and this is pretty tedious. Also VO is not playing any sound or announcing when the new web page after it has loaded-- it's a guessing game. Is this possibly because the latest Safari update is meant for Lion and not Snow Leopard? Or do I need to change something on my settings? I can probably live with the misspelled word announcements, but not hearing anything when I type in a edit box on a web page is very problematic. Thanks for any help Linda Mumford On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Loose Canon wrote: > Hi, > > I am still on Snow Leopard and hope to upgrade to Lion when it will be released on Flash drive next month. We have no iTunes store here, so it is not out of option to delay this upgrade. > > Here is my problem: I recently updated my version of Safari to 5.1 and I am happy with what I am seeing there. However, I noticed that whenever I am reading email messages, Voiceover is now telling me of any word that isn't spelt correctly. This even happens with names of people. While this behaviour is okay while writing messages, it is irritating me when reading messages. Any suggestions on how I can stop this? I am hesitant to turn off text attributes in the VO utility as I still want to know of any typos whenever I am editing documents. > > Thanks in advance, > > Loose Canon > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From jekis at fastmail.us Sun Jul 24 16:37:05 2011 From: jekis at fastmail.us (Justin Ekis) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 08:37:05 -0700 Subject: Other Safari problems too was Typos while reading mail? In-Reply-To: <93363946-F712-444F-8CAD-758019E3C0DA@uga.edu> References: <93363946-F712-444F-8CAD-758019E3C0DA@uga.edu> Message-ID: <4658608B-AAC2-44B3-833C-88D13160C69A@fastmail.us> Hi Linda, I'm experiencing the problem of text not being read while typing, and the issue of being notified of supposed spelling errors while reading an email. Thankfully, I'm not having to interact with every page that is loaded. I'll be emailing Apple about my two issues soon, and I'd suggest that anyone else dealing with them should do the same. Justin On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Linda Mumford wrote: I am also using Snow Leopard, and like you, VO is now telling me every time it thinks there is a misspelled word when I am reading my emails... just imagine how irritating it is when you're repeatedly being told VO is a misspelled word on this list! In addition, I now have 2 other problems on Safari: 1. When I am in a text edit box like a search box or user name box, there is no longer any character echo as I type. Just total silence (I know I am interacting with the box because what I have just typed in silence is read back to me when I use VO plus the arrow keys, however the individual characters are not read when I use the arrow keys or the backspace key which erases this is only happening in Safari- the characters but does not announce what it's doing. The character echo works fine in pages and mail. 2. Safari no longer automatically interacts with the html content of any web pages. I now have to manually interact with the HTML content every time a new web page is opened/loaded, and this is pretty tedious. Also VO is not playing any sound or announcing when the new web page after it has loaded-- it's a guessing game. Is this possibly because the latest Safari update is meant for Lion and not Snow Leopard? Or do I need to change something on my settings? I can probably live with the misspelled word announcements, but not hearing anything when I type in a edit box on a web page is very problematic. Thanks for any help Linda Mumford On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Loose Canon wrote: > Hi, > > I am still on Snow Leopard and hope to upgrade to Lion when it will be released on Flash drive next month. We have no iTunes store here, so it is not out of option to delay this upgrade. > > Here is my problem: I recently updated my version of Safari to 5.1 and I am happy with what I am seeing there. However, I noticed that whenever I am reading email messages, Voiceover is now telling me of any word that isn't spelt correctly. This even happens with names of people. While this behaviour is okay while writing messages, it is irritating me when reading messages. Any suggestions on how I can stop this? I am hesitant to turn off text attributes in the VO utility as I still want to know of any typos whenever I am editing documents. > > Thanks in advance, > > Loose Canon > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 16:47:37 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:47:37 +0100 Subject: Other Safari problems too was Typos while reading mail? In-Reply-To: <4658608B-AAC2-44B3-833C-88D13160C69A@fastmail.us> References: <93363946-F712-444F-8CAD-758019E3C0DA@uga.edu> <4658608B-AAC2-44B3-833C-88D13160C69A@fastmail.us> Message-ID: <56791606-D686-4F26-8C2F-0572EDBAB90A@mac-access.net> Hi Linda and Justin, You can choose whether or not to be informed of spelling errors by VoiceOver, and even how VoiceOver should inform you if you choose to know. To do this open the VO Utility with VO keys+F8 Navigate to the "Verbosity" category and then to the "Text" tab 2. Navigate to the option "when encountering a misspelled word". 3. You'll be greeted with a pop-up box where you can tell VoiceOver to either; Do Nothing Play at Tone - which a small beep will be heard before the misspelled word. Speak Attributes - VoiceOver will say "misspelled" before every misspelled word Change Pitch - will - will change the pitch of the misspelled word 4. Just press enter on the option you wish to use and close the VO Utility. Hope this helps TC James On 24 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Justin Ekis wrote: > Hi Linda, > > I'm experiencing the problem of text not being read while typing, and the issue of being notified of supposed spelling errors while reading an email. Thankfully, I'm not having to interact with every page that is loaded. I'll be emailing Apple about my two issues soon, and I'd suggest that anyone else dealing with them should do the same. > > Justin > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Linda Mumford wrote: > > I am also using Snow Leopard, and like you, VO is now telling me every time it thinks there is a misspelled word when I am reading my emails... just imagine how irritating it is when you're repeatedly being told VO is a misspelled word on this list! > In addition, I now have 2 other problems on Safari: > 1. When I am in a text edit box like a search box or user name box, there is no longer any character echo as I type. Just total silence (I know I am interacting with the box because what I have just typed in silence is read back to me when I use VO plus the arrow keys, however the individual characters are not read when I use the arrow keys or the backspace key which erases this is only happening in Safari- the characters but does not announce what it's doing. The character echo works fine in pages and mail. > 2. Safari no longer automatically interacts with the html content of any web pages. I now have to manually interact with the HTML content every time a new web page is opened/loaded, and this is pretty tedious. Also VO is not playing any sound or announcing when the new web page after it has loaded-- it's a guessing game. > > Is this possibly because the latest Safari update is meant for Lion and not Snow Leopard? Or do I need to change something on my settings? I can probably live with the misspelled word announcements, but not hearing anything when I type in a edit box on a web page is very problematic. > Thanks for any help > Linda Mumford > On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Loose Canon wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am still on Snow Leopard and hope to upgrade to Lion when it will be released on Flash drive next month. We have no iTunes store here, so it is not out of option to delay this upgrade. >> >> Here is my problem: I recently updated my version of Safari to 5.1 and I am happy with what I am seeing there. However, I noticed that whenever I am reading email messages, Voiceover is now telling me of any word that isn't spelt correctly. This even happens with names of people. While this behaviour is okay while writing messages, it is irritating me when reading messages. Any suggestions on how I can stop this? I am hesitant to turn off text attributes in the VO utility as I still want to know of any typos whenever I am editing documents. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Loose Canon >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 17:22:44 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:22:44 -0700 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. > TC :) > On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello James >> >> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >> >> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> Hi Lynne, >> >> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >> >> Thanks >> TC :) >> James >> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Chris >>> >>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>> >>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>> >>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>> >>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> TC :) >>>>> James >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Jul 24 17:44:49 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:44:49 +0100 Subject: found the answer Message-ID: <4e2c4be5.44e8d80a.1664.ffffbc6a@mx.google.com> i have found the answer to my question about i-tunes. i decided to do a vo shift m on the names of the files i wanted to delete in i-tunes and that gave me the option to delete which wasn't dimmed. From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 17:53:16 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 11:53:16 -0500 Subject: feedback of mac-access.net Message-ID: well, i just ordered my first set of take control books from mac-access... and, well, i like them.. the service was prompt, they did'nt mind my bombarding them with millions of questions, and, well, they're just all around good folks. :) keep it up, and, good job! From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 17:55:49 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:55:49 +0100 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Sarah Terminal is supposed to open but if you look around you should also get an installer window open. Lynne On 24 Jul 2011, at 17:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. > TC :) > On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello James >> >> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >> >> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> Hi Lynne, >> >> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >> >> Thanks >> TC :) >> James >> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Chris >>> >>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>> >>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>> >>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>> >>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> TC :) >>>>> James >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 17:30:58 2011 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:30:58 -0400 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> Message-ID: You have to make sure you remove Drop Box from you login items in your User Account setting of System Preferences. When Drop Box installs, it ends up starting at boot up. You need to manually remove it from the login items and then restart before attempting to reinstall the application. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. > On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. >> TC :) >> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello James >>> >>> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >>> >>> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lynne, >>> >>> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >>> >>> Thanks >>> TC :) >>> James >>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> >>>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>> >>>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>>> >>>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> TC :) >>>>>> James >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>> >>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>> >>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 18:06:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:06:15 -0700 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I looked. no installer window. I used the application chooser, the item chooser and everything else . no go. I did this about 4 or 5 times and no installer window at all. On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Sarah > > Terminal is supposed to open but if you look around you should also get an installer window open. > > Lynne > > On 24 Jul 2011, at 17:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. > On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. >> TC :) >> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello James >>> >>> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >>> >>> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lynne, >>> >>> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >>> >>> Thanks >>> TC :) >>> James >>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> >>>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>> >>>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>>> >>>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> TC :) >>>>>> James >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>> >>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>> >>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 18:06:45 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:06:45 -0700 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1D69B438-E743-4B5E-A3D2-D39C3ACB3EF9@gmail.com> Hmm will try that. and keep y'all posted. lol! Take care all. On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: > You have to make sure you remove Drop Box from you login items in your User Account setting of System Preferences. When Drop Box installs, it ends up starting at boot up. You need to manually remove it from the login items and then restart before attempting to reinstall the application. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. >>> TC :) >>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello James >>>> >>>> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >>>> >>>> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Lynne, >>>> >>>> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> TC :) >>>> James >>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>>>> >>>>> Lynne >>>>> >>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>> >>>>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>> >>>>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>> >>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>> >>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From 0772930422 at econetmail.com Sun Jul 24 18:09:08 2011 From: 0772930422 at econetmail.com (Loose Canon) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:09:08 +0200 Subject: Other Safari problems too was Typos while reading mail? In-Reply-To: <56791606-D686-4F26-8C2F-0572EDBAB90A@mac-access.net> References: <93363946-F712-444F-8CAD-758019E3C0DA@uga.edu> <4658608B-AAC2-44B3-833C-88D13160C69A@fastmail.us> <56791606-D686-4F26-8C2F-0572EDBAB90A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <116B252B-CDDB-452A-8D21-664764733D00@econetmail.com> Hi James, The issue here is not of being informed whenever you get to a typo as such: the frustration is in that prior to Safari 5.1, Voiceover used to tell you of a spelling error during editing and not during reading of the message. Also, the issues about Voiceover not giving feedback whenever you are entering text on web pages. I think only us here on Snow Leopard are experiencing this. Just like Justin, I will also send them a message informing them of this bug. On 24 Jul,2011, at 5:47 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Linda and Justin, > > You can choose whether or not to be informed of spelling errors by VoiceOver, and even how VoiceOver should inform you if you choose to know. > > To do this open the VO Utility with VO keys+F8 > Navigate to the "Verbosity" category and then to the "Text" tab > 2. Navigate to the option "when encountering a misspelled word". > 3. You'll be greeted with a pop-up box where you can tell VoiceOver to either; > > Do Nothing > Play at Tone - which a small beep will be heard before the misspelled word. > Speak Attributes - VoiceOver will say "misspelled" before every misspelled word > Change Pitch - will - will change the pitch of the misspelled word > > 4. Just press enter on the option you wish to use and close the VO Utility. > > Hope this helps > TC > James > On 24 Jul 2011, at 16:37, Justin Ekis wrote: > >> Hi Linda, >> >> I'm experiencing the problem of text not being read while typing, and the issue of being notified of supposed spelling errors while reading an email. Thankfully, I'm not having to interact with every page that is loaded. I'll be emailing Apple about my two issues soon, and I'd suggest that anyone else dealing with them should do the same. >> >> Justin >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Linda Mumford wrote: >> >> I am also using Snow Leopard, and like you, VO is now telling me every time it thinks there is a misspelled word when I am reading my emails... just imagine how irritating it is when you're repeatedly being told VO is a misspelled word on this list! >> In addition, I now have 2 other problems on Safari: >> 1. When I am in a text edit box like a search box or user name box, there is no longer any character echo as I type. Just total silence (I know I am interacting with the box because what I have just typed in silence is read back to me when I use VO plus the arrow keys, however the individual characters are not read when I use the arrow keys or the backspace key which erases this is only happening in Safari- the characters but does not announce what it's doing. The character echo works fine in pages and mail. >> 2. Safari no longer automatically interacts with the html content of any web pages. I now have to manually interact with the HTML content every time a new web page is opened/loaded, and this is pretty tedious. Also VO is not playing any sound or announcing when the new web page after it has loaded-- it's a guessing game. >> >> Is this possibly because the latest Safari update is meant for Lion and not Snow Leopard? Or do I need to change something on my settings? I can probably live with the misspelled word announcements, but not hearing anything when I type in a edit box on a web page is very problematic. >> Thanks for any help >> Linda Mumford >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Loose Canon wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am still on Snow Leopard and hope to upgrade to Lion when it will be released on Flash drive next month. We have no iTunes store here, so it is not out of option to delay this upgrade. >>> >>> Here is my problem: I recently updated my version of Safari to 5.1 and I am happy with what I am seeing there. However, I noticed that whenever I am reading email messages, Voiceover is now telling me of any word that isn't spelt correctly. This even happens with names of people. While this behaviour is okay while writing messages, it is irritating me when reading messages. Any suggestions on how I can stop this? I am hesitant to turn off text attributes in the VO utility as I still want to know of any typos whenever I am editing documents. >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Loose Canon >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 18:09:39 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:09:39 +0100 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <1D69B438-E743-4B5E-A3D2-D39C3ACB3EF9@gmail.com> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> <1D69B438-E743-4B5E-A3D2-D39C3ACB3EF9@gmail.com> Message-ID: can we access the icons for it though in lion as if not why do people use it if we can't see our status of uploads/downloads? I know we can do the tracking business and using the mouse but surely a way must exist to read these types of icons by now? On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hmm will try that. and keep y'all posted. lol! > > Take care all. > On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: > >> You have to make sure you remove Drop Box from you login items in your User Account setting of System Preferences. When Drop Box installs, it ends up starting at boot up. You need to manually remove it from the login items and then restart before attempting to reinstall the application. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. >>>> TC :) >>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello James >>>>> >>>>> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >>>>> >>>>> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >>>>> >>>>> Lynne >>>>> >>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Lynne, >>>>> >>>>> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> TC :) >>>>> James >>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lynne >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sun Jul 24 18:14:45 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:14:45 +0100 Subject: Bug in Mail when checking spelling? In-Reply-To: <10CBAE6A-2485-4FBE-BE3B-F56970BD9C28@mac-access.net> References: <10CBAE6A-2485-4FBE-BE3B-F56970BD9C28@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi James! I don't think this is a bug! It has done this since I've been using it! So what I've found is to stop it sending open vo+shift+m and open spellcheck sub menu and select hide spellcheck you can check the message text and if need be open that menu again to restart spell check! But if your happy just send! hth Colin On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:43, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi folks, > > Has anyone else noticed that if Mail is set to check spelling just before the message is sent, that if you jump back to the message to check the spelling in context that the message gets sent automatically? Lynne and I have both discovered this and wondered if anyone else had noticed it. > > Thanks > TC :) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sun Jul 24 18:22:29 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:22:29 -0500 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <4E27F707.7070607@internode.on.net> References: <174770E5-5038-4766-876E-5ED3A9F30FBE@internode.on.net> <4E27F707.7070607@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <3762DA97-D915-4743-B85B-E8947AE74E42@charter.net> The other thing apple has done is to remove the dvd drive from the mac mini. I think this was a bad decision on their part, I would not consider the dvd drive to be outdated just yet. On Jul 21, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > No matter how well informed a person is, there's no way that they could avoid that trap. > > In my case with the Time Capsule, whether I did or didn't get my unit replaced was of little consequence, i'd saved for 6 months to buy one so - even supposing I didn't have the 1TB swapped over for a 2TB model - I knew exactly what I'd been saving for and I was able to purchase it and getting the goal of my savings was my ambission which was fulfilled, people can be a bit too precious sometimes. > > > > On 21/07/2011 7:11 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> Hello Dane >> >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 08:00, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> ? Why oh why don't you take this up with Apple? >> >> I am! I don't recall saying I wasn't going too; I just mentioned it so that others may avoid the trap that we fell into. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > skype callto:grtdane12 > MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 18:24:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:24:32 +0100 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <3762DA97-D915-4743-B85B-E8947AE74E42@charter.net> References: <174770E5-5038-4766-876E-5ED3A9F30FBE@internode.on.net> <4E27F707.7070607@internode.on.net> <3762DA97-D915-4743-B85B-E8947AE74E42@charter.net> Message-ID: Hello Mike Actually, in the client Mac Mini the DVD drive is still present. In terms of ourselves, things are happening; but I can't talk about it yet. Lynne On 24 Jul 2011, at 18:22, Mike Arrigo wrote: The other thing apple has done is to remove the dvd drive from the mac mini. I think this was a bad decision on their part, I would not consider the dvd drive to be outdated just yet. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 18:39:55 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:39:55 -0700 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> <1D69B438-E743-4B5E-A3D2-D39C3ACB3EF9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3B7C57F0-8DB9-4623-8A92-58ED87AD85FD@gmail.com> It didn't work for me. I did what was suggested which was to remove the dropbox helper and restart and try again and no go. here is a link to the file recording I did. http://q-audio.net/d/TFR On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:09 AM, william lomas wrote: > can we access the icons for it though in lion as if not why do people use it if we can't see our status of uploads/downloads? > I know we can do the tracking business and using the mouse but surely a way must exist to read these types of icons by now? > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hmm will try that. and keep y'all posted. lol! >> >> Take care all. >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> You have to make sure you remove Drop Box from you login items in your User Account setting of System Preferences. When Drop Box installs, it ends up starting at boot up. You need to manually remove it from the login items and then restart before attempting to reinstall the application. >>> >>> Take Care >>> John Panarese >>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. >>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. >>>>> TC :) >>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello James >>>>>> >>>>>> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lynne >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Lynne, >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> TC :) >>>>>> James >>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>>>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Jul 24 18:40:20 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:40:20 +0100 Subject: Select All does not work in iTunes 10.4 on Lion Message-ID: Hello, I am running Lion with itunes 10.4. I am importing an audio book from Calibre in the UK which has file names like 008583-001.mp3, 008583-002.mp3 ... 008583-069.mp3. I need to change its IDE tags to the correct book title, author etc. I used to do this on Snow Leopard with the prior version of iTunes by setting iTunes source to my music library, entering 8583 in the search string, going to the music scroll area and interacting with it, pressing command+a to select all the tracks for that book, and then pressing command+i to open the info editor. the info editor then asked me if I was happy to change the info for multiple files to which I replied yes. I then entered the desired author, title, etc. This does not work with itunes 10.4 on Lion. the select all does not seem to work and thus the info editor only displays info about a single file. Is this an iTunes bug or do I need to do something different in iTunes 10.4? Does select all work OK for itunes 10.4 on Snow Leopard in which case it is a Lion bug? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 18:46:35 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:46:35 +0100 Subject: Bug in Mail when checking spelling? In-Reply-To: References: <10CBAE6A-2485-4FBE-BE3B-F56970BD9C28@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thanks Colin I've done as you suggested, so we'll see what happens TC :) James On 24 Jul 2011, at 18:14, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi James! > I don't think this is a bug! > It has done this since I've been using it! > So what I've found is to stop it sending open vo+shift+m and open spellcheck sub menu and select hide spellcheck you can check the message text and if need be open that menu again to restart spell check! > But if your happy just send! > hth Colin > > On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:43, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> Has anyone else noticed that if Mail is set to check spelling just before the message is sent, that if you jump back to the message to check the spelling in context that the message gets sent automatically? Lynne and I have both discovered this and wondered if anyone else had noticed it. >> >> Thanks >> TC :) >> James >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 19:19:28 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:19:28 +0100 Subject: installing lion in other languages Message-ID: hi if one installs lion in other languages than english how will the voices come up for the installer to work? From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 18:52:47 2011 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:52:47 -0400 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <3B7C57F0-8DB9-4623-8A92-58ED87AD85FD@gmail.com> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> <1D69B438-E743-4B5E-A3D2-D39C3ACB3EF9@gmail.com> <3B7C57F0-8DB9-4623-8A92-58ED87AD85FD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <305244DE-778D-493C-8219-960108F3D215@mac-access.net> I don't know about the helper, but for me, making sure it is not running in my login items made it possible to reinstall it by using the method in which you select the app from the install packages folder. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > It didn't work for me. I did what was suggested which was to remove the dropbox helper and restart and try again and no go. here is a link to the file recording I did. > > http://q-audio.net/d/TFR > On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:09 AM, william lomas wrote: > >> can we access the icons for it though in lion as if not why do people use it if we can't see our status of uploads/downloads? >> I know we can do the tracking business and using the mouse but surely a way must exist to read these types of icons by now? >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Hmm will try that. and keep y'all posted. lol! >>> >>> Take care all. >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>>> You have to make sure you remove Drop Box from you login items in your User Account setting of System Preferences. When Drop Box installs, it ends up starting at boot up. You need to manually remove it from the login items and then restart before attempting to reinstall the application. >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> John Panarese >>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. >>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. >>>>>> TC :) >>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello James >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Lynne, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>>>>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>> >>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>> >>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 19:48:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 11:48:58 -0700 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <305244DE-778D-493C-8219-960108F3D215@mac-access.net> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> <1D69B438-E743-4B5E-A3D2-D39C3ACB3EF9@gmail.com> <3B7C57F0-8DB9-4623-8A92-58ED87AD85FD@gmail.com> <305244DE-778D-493C-8219-960108F3D215@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Nope. it failed. so what did i do wrong? I think inavaged to the right folder. can you verify by the recording? lol! On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:52 AM, John Panarese wrote: > I don't know about the helper, but for me, making sure it is not running in my login items made it possible to reinstall it by using the method in which you select the app from the install packages folder. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> It didn't work for me. I did what was suggested which was to remove the dropbox helper and restart and try again and no go. here is a link to the file recording I did. >> >> http://q-audio.net/d/TFR >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:09 AM, william lomas wrote: >> >>> can we access the icons for it though in lion as if not why do people use it if we can't see our status of uploads/downloads? >>> I know we can do the tracking business and using the mouse but surely a way must exist to read these types of icons by now? >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Hmm will try that. and keep y'all posted. lol! >>>> >>>> Take care all. >>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>> >>>>> You have to make sure you remove Drop Box from you login items in your User Account setting of System Preferences. When Drop Box installs, it ends up starting at boot up. You need to manually remove it from the login items and then restart before attempting to reinstall the application. >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> John Panarese >>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. >>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. >>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello James >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Lynne, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>>>>>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>> >>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>> >>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 19:59:44 2011 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:59:44 -0400 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> <1D69B438-E743-4B5E-A3D2-D39C3ACB3EF9@gmail.com> <3B7C57F0-8DB9-4623-8A92-58ED87AD85FD@gmail.com> <305244DE-778D-493C-8219-960108F3D215@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <519D1368-32F7-4EC8-8541-683E82C1930C@mac-access.net> Can you send the link again? Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jul 24, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Nope. it failed. so what did i do wrong? I think inavaged to the right folder. can you verify by the recording? lol! > On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:52 AM, John Panarese wrote: > >> I don't know about the helper, but for me, making sure it is not running in my login items made it possible to reinstall it by using the method in which you select the app from the install packages folder. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> It didn't work for me. I did what was suggested which was to remove the dropbox helper and restart and try again and no go. here is a link to the file recording I did. >>> >>> http://q-audio.net/d/TFR >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:09 AM, william lomas wrote: >>> >>>> can we access the icons for it though in lion as if not why do people use it if we can't see our status of uploads/downloads? >>>> I know we can do the tracking business and using the mouse but surely a way must exist to read these types of icons by now? >>>> >>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hmm will try that. and keep y'all posted. lol! >>>>> >>>>> Take care all. >>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You have to make sure you remove Drop Box from you login items in your User Account setting of System Preferences. When Drop Box installs, it ends up starting at boot up. You need to manually remove it from the login items and then restart before attempting to reinstall the application. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> John Panarese >>>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. >>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. >>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello James >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Lynne, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. 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If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>> >>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 20:14:00 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:14:00 -0700 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <519D1368-32F7-4EC8-8541-683E82C1930C@mac-access.net> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> <1D69B438-E743-4B5E-A3D2-D39C3ACB3EF9@gmail.com> <3B7C57F0-8DB9-4623-8A92-58ED87AD85FD@gmail.com> <305244DE-778D-493C-8219-960108F3D215@mac-access.net> <519D1368-32F7-4EC8-8541-683E82C1930C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2092EAD0-A47A-4AF7-8AD4-A10DA8F2BCB6@gmail.com> lol. Of corst. lol! http://q-audio.net/i/TFR Take care. On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:59 AM, John Panarese wrote: > Can you send the link again? > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Nope. it failed. so what did i do wrong? I think inavaged to the right folder. can you verify by the recording? lol! >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:52 AM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> I don't know about the helper, but for me, making sure it is not running in my login items made it possible to reinstall it by using the method in which you select the app from the install packages folder. >>> >>> Take Care >>> John Panarese >>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> It didn't work for me. I did what was suggested which was to remove the dropbox helper and restart and try again and no go. here is a link to the file recording I did. >>>> >>>> http://q-audio.net/d/TFR >>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:09 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>> >>>>> can we access the icons for it though in lion as if not why do people use it if we can't see our status of uploads/downloads? >>>>> I know we can do the tracking business and using the mouse but surely a way must exist to read these types of icons by now? >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmm will try that. and keep y'all posted. lol! >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care all. >>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You have to make sure you remove Drop Box from you login items in your User Account setting of System Preferences. When Drop Box installs, it ends up starting at boot up. You need to manually remove it from the login items and then restart before attempting to reinstall the application. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>> John Panarese >>>>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. >>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. >>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello James >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Lynne, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>> >>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>> >>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 20:22:47 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:22:47 -0400 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: <3762DA97-D915-4743-B85B-E8947AE74E42@charter.net> References: <174770E5-5038-4766-876E-5ED3A9F30FBE@internode.on.net> <4E27F707.7070607@internode.on.net> <3762DA97-D915-4743-B85B-E8947AE74E42@charter.net> Message-ID: <4e2c7113.4106e50a.4d5b.ffff9305@mx.google.com> My little Rosewill USB DVD writer works just fine on my MBP so I don't think I'm making a huge leap to think it will also work on a Mini. No need to pay Apple's insane price for an external DVD drive. At 01:22 PM 7/24/2011, you wrote: >The other thing apple has done is to remove the >dvd drive from the mac mini. I think this was a >bad decision on their part, I would not consider >the dvd drive to be outdated just yet. >On Jul 21, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > > No matter how well informed a person is, > there's no way that they could avoid that trap. > > > > In my case with the Time Capsule, whether I > did or didn't get my unit replaced was of > little consequence, i'd saved for 6 months to > buy one so - even supposing I didn't have the > 1TB swapped over for a 2TB model - I knew > exactly what I'd been saving for and I was able > to purchase it and getting the goal of my > savings was my ambission which was fulfilled, > people can be a bit too precious sometimes. > > > > > > > > On 21/07/2011 7:11 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Dane > >> > >> On 21 Jul 2011, at 08:00, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> > >> ? Why oh why don't you take this up with Apple? > >> > >> I am! I don't recall saying I wasn't going > too; I just mentioned it so that others may avoid the trap that we fell into. > >> > >> Lynne > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your > message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of > all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed > malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership > options periodically by visiting the list website at: > >> > > > > -- > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > skype callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your > message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of > all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed > malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership > options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your >message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all >messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed >malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership >options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 20:23:31 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:23:31 -0400 Subject: Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once Again! In-Reply-To: References: <174770E5-5038-4766-876E-5ED3A9F30FBE@internode.on.net> <4E27F707.7070607@internode.on.net> <3762DA97-D915-4743-B85B-E8947AE74E42@charter.net> Message-ID: <4e2c713f.4988e50a.0d0f.ffff8ead@mx.google.com> Nope, DVDs are gone from all new Minis. At 01:24 PM 7/24/2011, you wrote: >Hello Mike > >Actually, in the client Mac Mini the DVD drive is still present. > >In terms of ourselves, things are happening; but I can't talk about it yet. > >Lynne > >On 24 Jul 2011, at 18:22, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >The other thing apple has done is to remove the dvd drive from the >mac mini. I think this was a bad decision on their part, I would not >consider the dvd drive to be outdated just yet. ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Jul 24 20:29:11 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:29:11 +0100 Subject: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion References: Message-ID: <47E283A2-98B6-4C12-9052-CEEB85D1DB5A@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, Has anyone discovered a good way to select a block of text from a web page on Lion so that the text can be pasted into another document? On Snow Leopard I used to press command+A to select all the text in the Safari window, then use the Safari service "new textedit window containing selection" which would copy the Safari text into a TextEdit window, and then copy the required text from the textedit window. Alas the service option "new TextEdit window containing selection" seems to have been removed in Lion. On Snow Leopard I was sometimes able to simply interact with the Safari page and use the arrow keys to select the desired text in the normal way. That does not seem to work on Lion either. So I tried the attached approach (which I had never used on Snow Leopard) and that does not seem to work on Lion either! I can manually create an empty textedit window and copy the Safari page into that and then select the desired text from there but that is hard work! I feel there should be an easier approach. Many thanks for any ideas. Paul Hopewell Begin forwarded message: > From: Anne Robertson > Subject: Selecting a block of text from a website > Date: 23 March 2011 19:49:03 GMT > To: Mac iOS Accessibility OSX & > Reply-To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > > Hello everyone, > > Here's how to select part of a web page and copy it into a text document. > > ? Find the start point for your selection and set a hotspot (VO-Shift-number), it must not be a link; > ? Find the end point for your selection and set a second hotspot, once again, not a link; > ? Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3); > ? Bring the mouse to the hotspot (VO-Cmd-F5); > ? Check that the mouse is actually on the hotspot (VO-F5); > ? Click the physical mouse or trackpad; > ? Go to first hotspot (VO-number); > ? Bring the mouse to the hotspot; > ? Check that the mouse is on the hotspot; > ? Hold down the Shift key and click the mouse or trackpad; > ? Press Cmd-C to copy the text. > > If you've succeeded in highlighting text, you'll hear "Copy". > > Cheers, > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 20:37:11 2011 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:37:11 -0400 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <2092EAD0-A47A-4AF7-8AD4-A10DA8F2BCB6@gmail.com> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> <1D69B438-E743-4B5E-A3D2-D39C3ACB3EF9@gmail.com> <3B7C57F0-8DB9-4623-8A92-58ED87AD85FD@gmail.com> <305244DE-778D-493C-8219-960108F3D215@mac-access.net> <519D1368-32F7-4EC8-8541-683E82C1930C@mac-access.net> <2092EAD0-A47A-4AF7-8AD4-A10DA8F2BCB6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <492BE8CB-80B4-4A7E-AD65-03969791C0FB@mac-access.net> All right. Here are a couple of thoughts. I'm really just tossing things out to you and have no idea if this will make a difference. Firstly, you might want to try using the actual delete button in the table for removing the Drop Box from your login items table. I don't know if this makes a difference, but I made sure the item was gone by using the button and not just using the delete key. Secondly, after you reboot, I actually copied the Drop Box app file into my applications folder before then opening the context menu to run the Drop Box application from the package contents folder. Lastly, when you get the terminal window after you start the Drop Box app from the package contents folder, you might want to use the window chooser menu in finder to see if the Drop Box install window is present. I recall command-tabbing did not locate it for me. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > lol. Of corst. lol! > > http://q-audio.net/i/TFR > Take care. > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:59 AM, John Panarese wrote: > >> Can you send the link again? >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Nope. it failed. so what did i do wrong? I think inavaged to the right folder. can you verify by the recording? lol! >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:52 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>>> I don't know about the helper, but for me, making sure it is not running in my login items made it possible to reinstall it by using the method in which you select the app from the install packages folder. >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> John Panarese >>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> It didn't work for me. I did what was suggested which was to remove the dropbox helper and restart and try again and no go. here is a link to the file recording I did. >>>>> >>>>> http://q-audio.net/d/TFR >>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:09 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> can we access the icons for it though in lion as if not why do people use it if we can't see our status of uploads/downloads? >>>>>> I know we can do the tracking business and using the mouse but surely a way must exist to read these types of icons by now? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmm will try that. and keep y'all posted. lol! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care all. >>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You have to make sure you remove Drop Box from you login items in your User Account setting of System Preferences. When Drop Box installs, it ends up starting at boot up. You need to manually remove it from the login items and then restart before attempting to reinstall the application. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>> John Panarese >>>>>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. >>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. >>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello James >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lynne, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>> >>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>> >>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 20:38:52 2011 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:38:52 -0400 Subject: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion In-Reply-To: <47E283A2-98B6-4C12-9052-CEEB85D1DB5A@hopewell.org.uk> References: <47E283A2-98B6-4C12-9052-CEEB85D1DB5A@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: The service is still there. You might have to go into System Preferences under the Keyboard pane in the shortcuts view to activate it again. At least, I had to do this to get it to work again. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > Has anyone discovered a good way to select a block of text from a web page on Lion so that the text can be pasted into another document? > > On Snow Leopard I used to press command+A to select all the text in the Safari window, then use the Safari service "new textedit window containing selection" which would copy the Safari text into a TextEdit window, and then copy the required text from the textedit window. Alas the service option "new TextEdit window containing selection" seems to have been removed in Lion. On Snow Leopard I was sometimes able to simply interact with the Safari page and use the arrow keys to select the desired text in the normal way. That does not seem to work on Lion either. > > So I tried the attached approach (which I had never used on Snow Leopard) and that does not seem to work on Lion either! > > I can manually create an empty textedit window and copy the Safari page into that and then select the desired text from there but that is hard work! I feel there should be an easier approach. > > Many thanks for any ideas. > > Paul Hopewell > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Anne Robertson >> Subject: Selecting a block of text from a website >> Date: 23 March 2011 19:49:03 GMT >> To: Mac iOS Accessibility OSX & >> Reply-To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> Here's how to select part of a web page and copy it into a text document. >> >> ? Find the start point for your selection and set a hotspot (VO-Shift-number), it must not be a link; >> ? Find the end point for your selection and set a second hotspot, once again, not a link; >> ? Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3); >> ? Bring the mouse to the hotspot (VO-Cmd-F5); >> ? Check that the mouse is actually on the hotspot (VO-F5); >> ? Click the physical mouse or trackpad; >> ? Go to first hotspot (VO-number); >> ? Bring the mouse to the hotspot; >> ? Check that the mouse is on the hotspot; >> ? Hold down the Shift key and click the mouse or trackpad; >> ? Press Cmd-C to copy the text. >> >> If you've succeeded in highlighting text, you'll hear "Copy". >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 21:02:17 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:02:17 -0700 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <492BE8CB-80B4-4A7E-AD65-03969791C0FB@mac-access.net> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> <1D69B438-E743-4B5E-A3D2-D39C3ACB3EF9@gmail.com> <3B7C57F0-8DB9-4623-8A92-58ED87AD85FD@gmail.com> <305244DE-778D-493C-8219-960108F3D215@mac-access.net> <519D1368-32F7-4EC8-8541-683E82C1930C@mac-access.net> <2092EAD0-A47A-4AF7-8AD4-A10DA8F2BCB6@gmail.com> <492BE8CB-80B4-4A7E-AD65-03969791C0FB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4ED5B78B-B9DB-446E-8D52-2816F1B820A2@gmail.com> Hmm the last time I did that it wasn't there. I used the item chooser and it did not show up. I'll try again though after this 3 hour one copy. lol! On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:37 PM, John Panarese wrote: > All right. Here are a couple of thoughts. I'm really just tossing things out to you and have no idea if this will make a difference. > > Firstly, you might want to try using the actual delete button in the table for removing the Drop Box from your login items table. I don't know if this makes a difference, but I made sure the item was gone by using the button and not just using the delete key. > > Secondly, after you reboot, I actually copied the Drop Box app file into my applications folder before then opening the context menu to run the Drop Box application from the package contents folder. > > Lastly, when you get the terminal window after you start the Drop Box app from the package contents folder, you might want to use the window chooser menu in finder to see if the Drop Box install window is present. I recall command-tabbing did not locate it for me. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> lol. Of corst. lol! >> >> http://q-audio.net/i/TFR >> Take care. >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:59 AM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> Can you send the link again? >>> >>> Take Care >>> John Panarese >>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Nope. it failed. so what did i do wrong? I think inavaged to the right folder. can you verify by the recording? lol! >>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:52 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't know about the helper, but for me, making sure it is not running in my login items made it possible to reinstall it by using the method in which you select the app from the install packages folder. >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> John Panarese >>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It didn't work for me. I did what was suggested which was to remove the dropbox helper and restart and try again and no go. here is a link to the file recording I did. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://q-audio.net/d/TFR >>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:09 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> can we access the icons for it though in lion as if not why do people use it if we can't see our status of uploads/downloads? >>>>>>> I know we can do the tracking business and using the mouse but surely a way must exist to read these types of icons by now? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hmm will try that. and keep y'all posted. lol! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care all. >>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You have to make sure you remove Drop Box from you login items in your User Account setting of System Preferences. When Drop Box installs, it ends up starting at boot up. You need to manually remove it from the login items and then restart before attempting to reinstall the application. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>> John Panarese >>>>>>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. >>>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello James >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lynne, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. 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If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 21:03:10 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:03:10 -0700 Subject: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion In-Reply-To: <47E283A2-98B6-4C12-9052-CEEB85D1DB5A@hopewell.org.uk> References: <47E283A2-98B6-4C12-9052-CEEB85D1DB5A@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: I use the vo enter to stop a selection and vo right arrow and vo enter to stop a selection and copy. On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > Has anyone discovered a good way to select a block of text from a web page on Lion so that the text can be pasted into another document? > > On Snow Leopard I used to press command+A to select all the text in the Safari window, then use the Safari service "new textedit window containing selection" which would copy the Safari text into a TextEdit window, and then copy the required text from the textedit window. Alas the service option "new TextEdit window containing selection" seems to have been removed in Lion. On Snow Leopard I was sometimes able to simply interact with the Safari page and use the arrow keys to select the desired text in the normal way. That does not seem to work on Lion either. > > So I tried the attached approach (which I had never used on Snow Leopard) and that does not seem to work on Lion either! > > I can manually create an empty textedit window and copy the Safari page into that and then select the desired text from there but that is hard work! I feel there should be an easier approach. > > Many thanks for any ideas. > > Paul Hopewell > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Anne Robertson >> Subject: Selecting a block of text from a website >> Date: 23 March 2011 19:49:03 GMT >> To: Mac iOS Accessibility OSX & >> Reply-To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> Here's how to select part of a web page and copy it into a text document. >> >> ? Find the start point for your selection and set a hotspot (VO-Shift-number), it must not be a link; >> ? Find the end point for your selection and set a second hotspot, once again, not a link; >> ? Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3); >> ? Bring the mouse to the hotspot (VO-Cmd-F5); >> ? Check that the mouse is actually on the hotspot (VO-F5); >> ? Click the physical mouse or trackpad; >> ? Go to first hotspot (VO-number); >> ? Bring the mouse to the hotspot; >> ? Check that the mouse is on the hotspot; >> ? Hold down the Shift key and click the mouse or trackpad; >> ? Press Cmd-C to copy the text. >> >> If you've succeeded in highlighting text, you'll hear "Copy". >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sun Jul 24 21:04:46 2011 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:04:46 -0400 Subject: Installing Dropbox In-Reply-To: <4ED5B78B-B9DB-446E-8D52-2816F1B820A2@gmail.com> References: <255DF723-3658-498F-A014-021F5D17103C@mac-access.net> <10521F1D-EBA8-41C2-8002-66D290DBE7FE@gmail.com> <566792F4-5C45-48D6-9EB2-F3D943E0D502@me.com> <44313CE9-8C69-47CA-90E7-19182641EEFB@mac-access.net> <08C691D9-129E-4AAF-86DE-DFCCCD8E934C@mac-access.net> <00B40E05-0A13-41BA-BF96-025307C7EC41@mac-access.net> <1D69B438-E743-4B5E-A3D2-D39C3ACB3EF9@gmail.com> <3B7C57F0-8DB9-4623-8A92-58ED87AD85FD@gmail.com> <305244DE-778D-493C-8219-960108F3D215@mac-access.net> <519D1368-32F7-4EC8-8541-683E82C1930C@mac-access.net> <2092EAD0-A47A-4AF7-8AD4-A10DA8F2BCB6@gmail.com> <492BE8CB-80B4-4A7E-AD65-03969791C0FB@mac-access.net> <4ED5B78B-B9DB-446E-8D52-2816F1B820A2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5C41E6B1-26DA-47AB-99B5-51CBFB4928B3@mac-access.net> One last thought is to make sure you close the terminal window. Again, I have no idea if it makes a difference, but I did this before looking for the installer window. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jul 24, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hmm the last time I did that it wasn't there. I used the item chooser and it did not show up. I'll try again though after this 3 hour one copy. lol! > On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:37 PM, John Panarese wrote: > >> All right. Here are a couple of thoughts. I'm really just tossing things out to you and have no idea if this will make a difference. >> >> Firstly, you might want to try using the actual delete button in the table for removing the Drop Box from your login items table. I don't know if this makes a difference, but I made sure the item was gone by using the button and not just using the delete key. >> >> Secondly, after you reboot, I actually copied the Drop Box app file into my applications folder before then opening the context menu to run the Drop Box application from the package contents folder. >> >> Lastly, when you get the terminal window after you start the Drop Box app from the package contents folder, you might want to use the window chooser menu in finder to see if the Drop Box install window is present. I recall command-tabbing did not locate it for me. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> lol. Of corst. lol! >>> >>> http://q-audio.net/i/TFR >>> Take care. >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:59 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>>> Can you send the link again? >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> John Panarese >>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nope. it failed. so what did i do wrong? I think inavaged to the right folder. can you verify by the recording? lol! >>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:52 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't know about the helper, but for me, making sure it is not running in my login items made it possible to reinstall it by using the method in which you select the app from the install packages folder. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> John Panarese >>>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It didn't work for me. I did what was suggested which was to remove the dropbox helper and restart and try again and no go. here is a link to the file recording I did. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://q-audio.net/d/TFR >>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:09 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> can we access the icons for it though in lion as if not why do people use it if we can't see our status of uploads/downloads? >>>>>>>> I know we can do the tracking business and using the mouse but surely a way must exist to read these types of icons by now? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hmm will try that. and keep y'all posted. lol! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take care all. >>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You have to make sure you remove Drop Box from you login items in your User Account setting of System Preferences. When Drop Box installs, it ends up starting at boot up. You need to manually remove it from the login items and then restart before attempting to reinstall the application. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>> John Panarese >>>>>>>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I also tried this and it didn't work at all. it brought up a terminal window and nothing happened. There is no app file just a unix excitable file with no extension. >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:37 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Lynne, I'll look again, I must have mised the app file. >>>>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:16, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello James >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From memory; open the package and then the contents folder. Then open mac os X and then the dropbox.app file. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just from memory as it was a while ago. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 13:02, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lynne, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried this, but couldn't find the installer. Do you remember what it is called please? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 12:59, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have it installed under Lion but as yet it doesn't work properly. The menu icons are broken, for example. You have to open the package contents and manually install it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2011, at 01:57, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When someone gets this installed under Lion, Please report to the group re any possibleaccessibility changes. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24/07/2011, at 3:35 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh? accessibal installer? where? I'm having trouble installing the beast on the king of beasts lol! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care. and I'll defiantly keep an eye on this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:18 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could someone remind me please where to go after opening the "Package Contents" of the Dropbox app? I've taken a look in the folders, but I'm unable to find the accessible installer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TC :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. 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