From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jun 1 00:53:35 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 18:53:35 -0500 Subject: no cut? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As Nick mentioned, there's a script to do this located at the softcon mac pages. http://mac.softcon.com There's scripts there for time, text edit, moving files, and probably others I've forgotten. If there's something not there that folks would like added, let me know, and I'll see what I can do. From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 01:06:25 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:06:25 -0700 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> Oh that sucks. I wish they had a series of check check boxes or some pther way to put them in order and then a apply to all. but sadly they don't. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On May 31, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Stuart! > This will take you a little time but you can change the order! > First open vo+m then go to the view menu! > Scroll down to column sub menu and right arrow! > In there you will have a list of all the collums you have showing they will be checked! > Now I do not know of a faster way to do this but what you need to do is uncheck every one apart from the one you would like first! > But you will find that each time you uncheck one you'll have to go back through the open menu strokes to uncheck the next one! > And when you get to having one only then go back and check each one you would like and put them in as you would like them shown! > I.E subject,from, date sent, date received. > Or from, subject, number, mailbox. > But remember to add them as you want to have them! > And one more thing this might be mailbox independent because one of the others I have still has the items in the other order! > hth Colin > > On 31 May 2011, at 22:38, Stuart Young wrote: > >> Hi Lynne >> How would you go about doing this?. >> Regards Stuart. >> On 31 May 2011, at 21:56, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Stuart >>> On 31 May 2011, at 21:49, Stuart Young wrote: >>> >>> ? how do I go about changing the order of things in mac mail? e.g. when I get new messages in to my inbox, there is A blank field before the from and subject ones. >>> >>> You can't change the sequence but you can change the items which are viewed. The "Blank" is probably one of the dimmed items, maybe the buddy field or something. But you can't actually move them around; unless somebody knows better. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 01:22:07 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:22:07 -0400 Subject: voiceover has started behaving very oddly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Donald, I have had this happen also, mostly when I'm composing an email. VO will come back on again by itself within a minute or so, though sometimes pressing command-f5 will do the trick. The key combination must be pressed about 4 times. But, as I said, if I do nothing, VO will return. Marcy On May 31, 2011, at 2:55 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Evening all, > > I think it's sod's (or Murphy's?) law that says when you need your laptop most it will give you the most grief. > > Over the past 24 hours, Voiceover has decided to act up. I can be working away, when all of a sudden (for no reason) it just stops. the rest of the machine's function is unimpaired, just voiceover. Nothing in the logs that makes any sense to me either. Only way I can reactivate is to use VO-cmd-f8. Anyone seen (heard then) this of late? > > cheers > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jun 1 01:46:23 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 01:46:23 +0100 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> Message-ID: <61C4D4C6-9EF8-424A-907C-0457B4651881@mac-access.net> Hello Stuart On 31 May 2011, at 22:38, Stuart Young wrote: ? How would you go about doing this?. Use the options under the "View" sub-menu in the top menu ba. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jun 1 01:48:54 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 01:48:54 +0100 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <862CFD3C-3403-415D-874C-7ABCAAE52EF5@mac-access.net> Hello Colin On 31 May 2011, at 23:09, Colin M wrote: Hi Stuart! This will take you a little time but you can change the order! No, you can't. You can change what's visible, but not where it lives. Lyne From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jun 1 01:51:47 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 01:51:47 +0100 Subject: Radiologik DJ; [Show Stopper] In-Reply-To: References: <1CD4C2DE-20EC-4AB5-812C-5BA3DC534306@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Vaughn On 31 May 2011, at 23:43, Vaughn Bennison wrote: ? That's weird! I tried it last night, and it opened perfecly. Not the most accessible piece of software, at least on first look. Lots of "uknown"'s etc! Some of the controls appear to speak OK, but it isn't quick or easy! We know why, it's to do with how our system is configured. Lynne From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 02:21:54 2011 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 02:21:54 +0100 Subject: no cut? References: Message-ID: Caitlin As you are no doubt aware, cut and paste is a no go. So it is copy, paste then delete from original location. Time consuming but safe. Using 3rd party software is fine if you are confident though I'd suggest getting used to your Mac and it's little behavioural issues before getting out of your depth. I'm sure we've all done it and deleted stuff that we shouldn't have and thought it unrecoverable. If you do decide to go ahead with the software to cut and paste, please please remember regular back ups. It is extremely time consuming to find stuff on a hard memory with no memory reference. It also costs much monies. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caitlyn Furness" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:10 PM Subject: no cut? > Hi, > > I've noticed that the option to cut a file and then paste it someplace > else doesn't seem to be available here on my mac. Is this true, or am I > doing something incorrectly? > > Also, how in the world do you choose noncontiguous items in a file list, > please? > > Thanks! > > Cait > > Caitlyn Furness > lavendar at bell.net > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 02:25:31 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 18:25:31 -0700 Subject: voiceover has started behaving very oddly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <414A1943-E1B5-4160-A492-9E53FC1BF402@gmail.com> lol. I had vo crash and it didn't come back after hours. and I had left it hours before to go take care of stuff. I don't liek this bug and hope they fix it in what ever updates there may be. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On May 31, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Hello, Donald, > > I have had this happen also, mostly when I'm composing an email. VO will come back on again by itself within a minute or so, though sometimes pressing command-f5 will do the trick. The key combination must be pressed about 4 times. But, as I said, if I do nothing, VO will return. > > Marcy > > On May 31, 2011, at 2:55 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Evening all, >> >> I think it's sod's (or Murphy's?) law that says when you need your laptop most it will give you the most grief. >> >> Over the past 24 hours, Voiceover has decided to act up. I can be working away, when all of a sudden (for no reason) it just stops. the rest of the machine's function is unimpaired, just voiceover. Nothing in the logs that makes any sense to me either. Only way I can reactivate is to use VO-cmd-f8. Anyone seen (heard then) this of late? >> >> cheers >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 04:10:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:10:29 -0700 Subject: Lodsys sues developers over patent infringement Message-ID: I admit I have not been keeping up with this case but looks like it is about to come to a tipping point Lodsys sues developers over patent infringement Lodsys, which has contended that third-party developers for iOS and other platforms have violated its intellectual property, has sued a number of developers and posted more information on its Website. http://bit.ly/lshZ6d From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 05:03:25 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 21:03:25 -0700 Subject: Restore behavior in the InDesign polygon tool Message-ID: for you designers out there, or if you know a designer. Take care. Restore behavior in the InDesign polygon tool Here's how to restore the old method of adding sides and changing star inset to the Polygon Tool in InDesign CS5. I have previously used the Polygon Tool to create star shaped objects in InDesign, and I like the old way of changing the number of sides and the star inset of the shapes dynamically while drawing the shape. In every version of InDesign until version 7 included in the CS5 package, you could change the number of sides by pressing the up- or down-arrows on the keyboard, and change the star inset by pressing the left- or right-arrows. Adobe, however, in InDesign version 7 introduced the very clever option of drawing multiple shapes simultaneously by using the arrow keys while drawing a shape, and the only official way to change the polygon is to double click the Polygon Tool before drawing or with the polygon selected. While this is useful, you have no preview of the result before applying. Today I got annoyed enough to start looking for ... http://bit.ly/jC733M From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 05:05:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 21:05:58 -0700 Subject: Keep 3G connections alive while also using WiFi Message-ID: <86178B13-F640-4C09-A988-9057DA3D1943@gmail.com> Talk about confusing instructions. I didn't understand this hint at all but maybe someone can make heads and or tails out of this as this does not make sense to me at all. How can you still keep a 3g connection while having wifi going? Keep 3G connections alive while also using WiFi IRC is blocked at my work and I enjoy sitting in the chat rooms for live podcasts on my lunch hour while I listen. I'm fortunate to have rolled my unlimited data iPad 1 plan over to my iPad 2, but sometimes being on 3G can get annoying. But I don't want to drop the chat room connection either. If you have a service like IRC that's blocked by your WiFi or you'd prefer using 3G network than WiFi then this is the ticket. ? Disable WiFi in the Settings app so that you are getting internet through 3G. ? Connect your app to the service you want off of the local WiFi ? Re-enable WiFi in Settings app. ? Switch back to your app and see if the connection remained. I tested this working with Colloquy (IRC app). [crarko adds: I haven't tested this one.] http://bit.ly/lG05Pg From roger.firman at btinternet.com Wed Jun 1 06:38:59 2011 From: roger.firman at btinternet.com (Roger Firman) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 06:38:59 +0100 Subject: no cut? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Travis, When I just tried the link to the Scripts page, it was not working. Not sure if you were aware or not. Roger. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jun 1 08:12:20 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 08:12:20 +0100 Subject: voiceover has started behaving very oddly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi there, Unfortunately, the only key combo that brings it back for me is the Vo-CMD-f8. I'm tlking with Apple at the minute so I'll report back if we (they) discover anything. D?nal On 1 Jun 2011, at 01:22, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Hello, Donald, > > I have had this happen also, mostly when I'm composing an email. VO will come back on again by itself within a minute or so, though sometimes pressing command-f5 will do the trick. The key combination must be pressed about 4 times. But, as I said, if I do nothing, VO will return. > > Marcy > > On May 31, 2011, at 2:55 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Evening all, >> >> I think it's sod's (or Murphy's?) law that says when you need your laptop most it will give you the most grief. >> >> Over the past 24 hours, Voiceover has decided to act up. I can be working away, when all of a sudden (for no reason) it just stops. the rest of the machine's function is unimpaired, just voiceover. Nothing in the logs that makes any sense to me either. Only way I can reactivate is to use VO-cmd-f8. Anyone seen (heard then) this of late? >> >> cheers >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 08:15:38 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 00:15:38 -0700 Subject: voiceover has started behaving very oddly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <712A8EBE-9F02-464A-8445-93E9AF405A2A@gmail.com> Did you send them your access logs from the cnsol? I looked at mine and it appears that it is the 3d sound thing but even wiht it off I can count on it crashing at least one or 2 times a day. I did not yet look at my diag logs but I can hardley look at anything now. I'll dig in to my system tomorrow and email apple about this. On Jun 1, 2011, at 12:12 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi there, > > Unfortunately, the only key combo that brings it back for me is the Vo-CMD-f8. I'm tlking with Apple at the minute so I'll report back if we (they) discover anything. > > D?nal > On 1 Jun 2011, at 01:22, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > >> Hello, Donald, >> >> I have had this happen also, mostly when I'm composing an email. VO will come back on again by itself within a minute or so, though sometimes pressing command-f5 will do the trick. The key combination must be pressed about 4 times. But, as I said, if I do nothing, VO will return. >> >> Marcy >> >> On May 31, 2011, at 2:55 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Evening all, >>> >>> I think it's sod's (or Murphy's?) law that says when you need your laptop most it will give you the most grief. >>> >>> Over the past 24 hours, Voiceover has decided to act up. I can be working away, when all of a sudden (for no reason) it just stops. the rest of the machine's function is unimpaired, just voiceover. Nothing in the logs that makes any sense to me either. Only way I can reactivate is to use VO-cmd-f8. Anyone seen (heard then) this of late? >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> D?nal >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Jun 1 08:23:44 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 08:23:44 +0100 Subject: voiceover has started behaving very oddly In-Reply-To: <712A8EBE-9F02-464A-8445-93E9AF405A2A@gmail.com> References: <712A8EBE-9F02-464A-8445-93E9AF405A2A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <606981BB-4AEE-45C5-8213-4EA435A34B03@computing.dcu.ie> yep sent everything. Very odd.D On 1 Jun 2011, at 08:15, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Did you send them your access logs from the cnsol? I looked at mine and it appears that it is the 3d sound thing but even wiht it off I can count on it crashing at least one or 2 times a day. I did not yet look at my diag logs but I can hardley look at anything now. I'll dig in to my system tomorrow and email apple about this. > On Jun 1, 2011, at 12:12 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> Unfortunately, the only key combo that brings it back for me is the Vo-CMD-f8. I'm tlking with Apple at the minute so I'll report back if we (they) discover anything. >> >> D?nal >> On 1 Jun 2011, at 01:22, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >> >>> Hello, Donald, >>> >>> I have had this happen also, mostly when I'm composing an email. VO will come back on again by itself within a minute or so, though sometimes pressing command-f5 will do the trick. The key combination must be pressed about 4 times. But, as I said, if I do nothing, VO will return. >>> >>> Marcy >>> >>> On May 31, 2011, at 2:55 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Evening all, >>>> >>>> I think it's sod's (or Murphy's?) law that says when you need your laptop most it will give you the most grief. >>>> >>>> Over the past 24 hours, Voiceover has decided to act up. I can be working away, when all of a sudden (for no reason) it just stops. the rest of the machine's function is unimpaired, just voiceover. Nothing in the logs that makes any sense to me either. Only way I can reactivate is to use VO-cmd-f8. Anyone seen (heard then) this of late? >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> >>>> D?nal >>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 08:48:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 00:48:40 -0700 Subject: voiceover has started behaving very oddly In-Reply-To: <606981BB-4AEE-45C5-8213-4EA435A34B03@computing.dcu.ie> References: <712A8EBE-9F02-464A-8445-93E9AF405A2A@gmail.com> <606981BB-4AEE-45C5-8213-4EA435A34B03@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <5AC58C59-A7A8-46DE-AEB3-0C678C975EA0@gmail.com> Well keep us posted. I know they know about it but hear's hopeing they fix it soon eh? Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 1, 2011, at 12:23 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > yep sent everything. Very odd.D > On 1 Jun 2011, at 08:15, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Did you send them your access logs from the cnsol? I looked at mine and it appears that it is the 3d sound thing but even wiht it off I can count on it crashing at least one or 2 times a day. I did not yet look at my diag logs but I can hardley look at anything now. I'll dig in to my system tomorrow and email apple about this. >> On Jun 1, 2011, at 12:12 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> Unfortunately, the only key combo that brings it back for me is the Vo-CMD-f8. I'm tlking with Apple at the minute so I'll report back if we (they) discover anything. >>> >>> D?nal >>> On 1 Jun 2011, at 01:22, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, Donald, >>>> >>>> I have had this happen also, mostly when I'm composing an email. VO will come back on again by itself within a minute or so, though sometimes pressing command-f5 will do the trick. The key combination must be pressed about 4 times. But, as I said, if I do nothing, VO will return. >>>> >>>> Marcy >>>> >>>> On May 31, 2011, at 2:55 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Evening all, >>>>> >>>>> I think it's sod's (or Murphy's?) law that says when you need your laptop most it will give you the most grief. >>>>> >>>>> Over the past 24 hours, Voiceover has decided to act up. I can be working away, when all of a sudden (for no reason) it just stops. the rest of the machine's function is unimpaired, just voiceover. Nothing in the logs that makes any sense to me either. Only way I can reactivate is to use VO-cmd-f8. Anyone seen (heard then) this of late? >>>>> >>>>> cheers >>>>> >>>>> D?nal >>>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Wed Jun 1 10:23:01 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 05:23:01 -0400 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> Message-ID: Is there a way to create folders and have message rules in Apple mail? Thanks. From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jun 1 11:16:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:16:31 +0100 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> Message-ID: <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> Hello Tracy On 1 Jun 2011, at 10:23, Tracy Duffy wrote: Is there a way to create folders and have message rules in Apple mail? Thanks. Yes. First you need to create your mailbox under the "Mailbox" menu in the top menu bar. Then you create a rule in Rules> and that is it. Rules are pretty strait forward but don't be shy of asking if you get stuck. You can access Preferences by pressing "Command+Comma". Lynne From adrianleong at rocketmail.com Wed Jun 1 13:01:09 2011 From: adrianleong at rocketmail.com (adrianleong at rocketmail.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 06:01:09 -0600 Subject: introduction Message-ID: I am adrian from edmonton alberta.I am using a eye pod touch 4th generation.I love it. Can any one recamend any accessible instant messaging clients for the eye pod touch? From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Wed Jun 1 13:37:02 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:37:02 +0100 Subject: introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DE6326E.8000503@googlemail.com> Hi Adrian. Welcome to the list. I highly recommend IM+. They do a lite version which is free and a pro version for $5 I think. The differences are the lite version is ad sponsored and the lite version does not support chatting via Skype. Otherwise all features are the same for both lite and pro. Take care. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird On 01/06/2011 13:01, adrianleong at rocketmail.com wrote: > I am adrian from edmonton alberta.I am using a eye pod touch 4th generation.I love it. Can any one recamend any accessible instant messaging clients for the eye pod touch? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Wed Jun 1 14:13:51 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:13:51 +0100 Subject: introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8EE2E5A8-2EE3-44F5-AE1B-E5F11D05138B@googlemail.com> Hello adrian well there is im plus i find that very good there is also skype for it that is accessable to. glad you like your Ipod Ian McNamara From jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 14:44:14 2011 From: jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com (Jonathan Tyrer) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:44:14 +0100 Subject: Realistic mini BT keyboard for iPod Touch? Message-ID: Folks Like many people, I adore my Apple BT keyboard. It fits fine in all of my bags and cases and is so light, it's never a chore to carry. However, I'm looking for an ultra small keyboard that I could put in a suit pocket or even in my shirt pocket with my iPhone or iPod Touch. The reason why I have "realistic" in the subject line of this message is that I am a big bloke with enormous cucumber-like fingers. Well, not quite, but I'm buggered if I can use a teeny tiny keyboard like you see on some phones. So, anyone got any suggestions for something small but useable? Thanks much. JT From support at mac-access.net Wed Jun 1 18:53:51 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:53:51 +0100 Subject: Fwd;: iPhone VO usability study in London References: <2336BC47-B213-4F65-851C-CD473EE14F89@me.com> Message-ID: <11F29860-6BA0-47ED-9D08-BD26DC4E2125@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I opted to forward this to the group; but for future reference if you wish to have this kind of thing published on the list, please seek the author's consent. We have no problem with this, other than the fact that the author isn't a member of our group. So their consent is paramount. Begin forwarded message: > > Not sure how many of you could help but RIM (makers of the Blackberry) and RNIB (Royal National Institute of Blind People) are doing a usability study of VoiceOver on the iPhone. They are looking for iPhone VO users to participate in the study who would need to be able to come to the RNIB office in London sometime June 13-15. Interested folks should contact accessibility at rim.com or Sai Parapagharan at sprapagharan at rim.com. You would need to bring your own iPhone. I'm wrapping up my participation in AEGIS, a European accessibility project, which RIM is also a participant. Greg Fields, the RIM accessibility guy, who is also in AEGIS, sent this to me and I though it might be a good fit for some of you outside the states. > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jun 1 20:47:00 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:47:00 +0100 Subject: Subjects In-Reply-To: <8EE2E5A8-2EE3-44F5-AE1B-E5F11D05138B@googlemail.com> References: <8EE2E5A8-2EE3-44F5-AE1B-E5F11D05138B@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Please would people try a little harder on the subject lines thing. It isn't difficult to do, change a bit of text. Come on people, please play the game. Lynne From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Wed Jun 1 21:07:08 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 16:07:08 -0400 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thank you. I'm too tired right now to give it a whirl, but I'll get to it and I will holler if I get into trouble. I appreciate the info. On Jun 1, 2011, at 6:16 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Tracy > > On 1 Jun 2011, at 10:23, Tracy Duffy wrote: > > Is there a way to create folders and have message rules in Apple mail? Thanks. > > Yes. First you need to create your mailbox under the "Mailbox" menu in the top menu bar. Then you create a rule in Rules> and that is it. > > Rules are pretty strait forward but don't be shy of asking if you get stuck. You can access Preferences by pressing "Command+Comma". > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chantelle.griffiths at me.com Thu Jun 2 00:03:51 2011 From: chantelle.griffiths at me.com (Chantelle Griffiths) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 09:03:51 +1000 Subject: Reading Excel Spreadsheet in Numbers Question In-Reply-To: References: <1BC8CA81-33AB-49E2-930E-E12756F83E5A@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Ian and Everyone, Thanks for your suggestion. I had tried something similar with a CSV file but that didn't seem to work. However, I think I've worked out what the problem is. I opened the file on my iPhone in Pages yesterday and discovered that the text that can be viewed visually is actually some sort of imbedded image/object. That's why VoiceOver wasn't reading it and neither was Jaws when I tried to open the file in Excel. You couldn't edit any of the data in the file either, which explains why I was comparing the problem to a scanned image PDF document not being readable and why the text I thought I'd copied appeared as a tiny square in the middle of my spreadsheet when I tried to paste it into a new document. Now that I know what the problem is, I can hopefully help my friend correct it at his end and produce a document we can both read. Thanks everyone for your help. Cheers, Chantelle On 31/05/2011, at 6:20 PM, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi Chantelle, > > Could you open the spreadsheet in Excel, save as a .csv (comma separated values) file then open that file in Numbers? > > Cheers. > > Ian > > On 31 May 2011, at 01:44, Chantelle Griffiths wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I've been searching for an answer to this question for weeks and have so far been unsuccessful in finding one, so if anyone could help I'd really appreciate it. >> >> I was given an Excel spreadsheet by a friend and would like to read it in Numbers, or Tables, or any sort of spreadsheet program. But when I open the document in Numbers, even though there is text visible on the screen, when I try to interact with the layout area to find the layout item, the only feedback I get from VoiceOver is the boundary reached sound. I can't navigate any further with VoiceOver or interact any further. I can create a normal Numbers document and view/manipulate data with no problems, but I'm stumped with this particular issue and have never seen it before. >> >> Here are the things I've tried so far: >> Saving the document as a Numbers document: The result was still the same. A window popped up saying the font wasn't recognised so I corrected that just in case, no change. >> Exporting the document as a PDF and setting it to Page View: Again, the text is visible when I open it in Preview but VoiceOver won't allow me to navigate when I interact with the reading pane. >> Opening the document in Tables: Nothing at all is visible or detectable by VoiceOver. >> Copying the text of the worksheet and pasting it into a new Numbers document: I'm not exactly sure I did this correctly, but it pasted this tiny little area in the middle of the worksheet with text in it that I couldn't detect with VoiceOver so I expect not. >> I didn't get any notifications that the document was protected and even went through the Numbers user manual from the Apple support website and didn't find anything relevant in there. >> >> The only thing I can think of that I haven't yet done is tried opening the wretched document in Excel to see if something random is going on there, like a strange series of characters VO doesn't like or that is preventing the document from being saved/exported normally, and that's looking like my next best option. This issue has an uncanny resemblance to trying to read a PDF that's been scanned as an image with VoiceOver, but I've never heard of it happening with an Excel spreadsheet before. >> >> Perhaps I'm missing something really obvious? I'm fairly new to Numbers so that wouldn't surprise me. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can troubleshoot this further, or somehow get the data from the troublesome document to a new one that I can read? >> >> Any help would be much appreciated. >> >> Cheers, >> Chantelle. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 03:56:17 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:56:17 -0700 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?What_Voice_Recognition_Technology_Could_Mean_fo?= =?windows-1252?Q?r_Apple_=97_and_All_of_Us?= Message-ID: a short but interesting read. I have no luck with this at all. Maybe I speak to precise. Enjoy. What Voice Recognition Technology Could Mean for Apple ? and All of Us Voice recognition has long been billed as a kind of holy grail of mobile computing, but the reality is that the technology has been awkward, inaccurate and often unusable, resulting in misdialed phone calls and incomprehensible messages. So it?s no surprise it?s failed to garner much usage in mobile. Apple may be positioned to change all that, though, with the iOS 5 platform it will outline at next week?s WWDC in San Francisco. The company has reportedly been in discussions to license Nuance?s effective voice technology ? dubbed Dragon ? and may integrate it with the new version of iOS 5. Apple could make the technology available to developers as a built-in API in iOS 5, handing app creators a valuable new tool. Such a move would not only give voice recognition a much-needed push into the mobile mainstream, it would give Apple the chance to once again transform the way we interact with our phones. Here?s why: 1) Voice recognition technology is finally ready for prime time. Dragon powers Nuance?s FlexT9 for Android, a dictation app that sells for a mere $5 and enjoys a four-star user rating after more than 1,100 reviews. And there is no shortage of compelling use cases, from accessing a navigation app while driving (when your hands should be on the wheel) to dictating lengthy messages rather than typing on a miniature keyboard. 2) Apple knows how to educate the consumer. Voice recognition has come a long way, but using it still isn?t always intuitive. Google?s technology, for example, requires users to say the words ?period? or ?comma? if they want to add punctuation to their messages. But Apple?s marketing genius lies in showing consumers how to use technology: The first iPhone commercials were essentially tutorials in how to surf the Web, access email and find nearby businesses on the handset. A similar campaign could illustrate how to do all those things and more by talking, not typing. 3) Apple is a master of the user interface. The touchscreen was nothing new when the iPhone came to market; Apple?s true innovation was in simplifying the technology with an interface that made it easy for users to navigate their phones. The company could do the same with voice by integrating Dragon closely with iOS, making it easy to send messages or navigate the Safari browser by speaking. And the legions of iOS developers will surely find innovative new ways to leverage voice in everything from messaging to gaming to social networking. For more thoughts on how Apple could leverage voice recognition technology to change the way we use our phones, see my latest Weekly Update at GigaOM Pro (subscription required). Image courtesy Flickr user Lazurite. From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Thu Jun 2 07:39:18 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 02:39:18 -0400 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I created some mail boxes, but there is no way to create message rules in preferences. I mean something different by mail rules anyway. What I wanted to do was to have the mail that came from certain groups be put into certain folders or mail boxes. Unless I'm missing something, the best I can do is to move messages myself to those boxes. Is that right, or can someone guide me to a different conclusion? On Jun 1, 2011, at 6:16 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Tracy > > On 1 Jun 2011, at 10:23, Tracy Duffy wrote: > > Is there a way to create folders and have message rules in Apple mail? Thanks. > > Yes. First you need to create your mailbox under the "Mailbox" menu in the top menu bar. Then you create a rule in Rules> and that is it. > > Rules are pretty strait forward but don't be shy of asking if you get stuck. You can access Preferences by pressing "Command+Comma". > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Thu Jun 2 07:48:44 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:48:44 +1000 Subject: need help is there a file converter that converts wav to mp3 Message-ID: <2658187F-8882-490D-87B1-6126F71A7CD5@bluebottle.com> hi there my zoom h 2 was on wav unfortunatally so can i convert the file to mp3 some how is there like software to use if so is it free thanks from krystal From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 08:25:43 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 00:25:43 -0700 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2E827D91-80E4-46D6-82E9-4931082B2DF2@gmail.com> Sure. go to prefs then message rules. start a new rule and fill in the criterion. I have the subject be picked up and the to field that way it will go in to a folder of my choice either way. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 1, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > I created some mail boxes, but there is no way to create message rules in preferences. I mean something different by mail rules anyway. What I wanted to do was to have the mail that came from certain groups be put into certain folders or mail boxes. Unless I'm missing something, the best I can do is to move messages myself to those boxes. Is that right, or can someone guide me to a different conclusion? > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 6:16 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Tracy >> >> On 1 Jun 2011, at 10:23, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >> Is there a way to create folders and have message rules in Apple mail? Thanks. >> >> Yes. First you need to create your mailbox under the "Mailbox" menu in the top menu bar. Then you create a rule in Rules> and that is it. >> >> Rules are pretty strait forward but don't be shy of asking if you get stuck. You can access Preferences by pressing "Command+Comma". >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 08:26:11 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 00:26:11 -0700 Subject: need help is there a file converter that converts wav to mp3 In-Reply-To: <2658187F-8882-490D-87B1-6126F71A7CD5@bluebottle.com> References: <2658187F-8882-490D-87B1-6126F71A7CD5@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <5D0B9FA1-CB2F-4C85-9A35-AEEB3F6175A9@gmail.com> Yeah look for switch. It is ok. there are some issues but they can be worked around. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 1, 2011, at 11:48 PM, krystal watson wrote: > hi there my zoom h 2 was on wav unfortunatally so can i convert the file to mp3 some how is there like software to use if so is it free thanks from krystal > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Thu Jun 2 09:11:56 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 04:11:56 -0400 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: <2E827D91-80E4-46D6-82E9-4931082B2DF2@gmail.com> References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> <2E827D91-80E4-46D6-82E9-4931082B2DF2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5316F2B7-083A-4302-B27B-D0B9101C9764@nc.rr.com> I'm not finding message rules or rules anywhere. Is it in preferences when you're in the mail program>? If so, it's not showing for some reason. Is the somewhere else I should be looking? This one's getting a bit frustrating, but I don't give up easily. Thanks. On Jun 2, 2011, at 3:25 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Sure. go to prefs then message rules. start a new rule and fill in the criterion. > > I have the subject be picked up and the to field that way it will go in to a folder of my choice either way. > > Take care. > > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > >> I created some mail boxes, but there is no way to create message rules in preferences. I mean something different by mail rules anyway. What I wanted to do was to have the mail that came from certain groups be put into certain folders or mail boxes. Unless I'm missing something, the best I can do is to move messages myself to those boxes. Is that right, or can someone guide me to a different conclusion? >> >> On Jun 1, 2011, at 6:16 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Tracy >>> >>> On 1 Jun 2011, at 10:23, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>> >>> Is there a way to create folders and have message rules in Apple mail? Thanks. >>> >>> Yes. First you need to create your mailbox under the "Mailbox" menu in the top menu bar. Then you create a rule in Rules> and that is it. >>> >>> Rules are pretty strait forward but don't be shy of asking if you get stuck. You can access Preferences by pressing "Command+Comma". >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Thu Jun 2 09:59:52 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 04:59:52 -0400 Subject: Using Apple mail Message-ID: Never mind! I found my problem. I needed to update the software. I thought that had already been done, but I must have interupted the process or something. Now I do have a "message rules" option in preferences and I'm wrestling with it now. LOL! Thank you for being patient. I'm slowly getting there! From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 2 10:23:54 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:23:54 +1000 Subject: Contacts Monitor button in Skype Message-ID: <79245434-7CF4-4DCA-88F3-0CE92A621C40@internode.on.net> Hi! Anyone know what this button is supposed to do in skype? From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Thu Jun 2 11:22:12 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Colin M) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:22:12 +0100 Subject: Contacts Monitor button in Skype In-Reply-To: <79245434-7CF4-4DCA-88F3-0CE92A621C40@internode.on.net> References: <79245434-7CF4-4DCA-88F3-0CE92A621C40@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <969947EE-A0DC-47B2-959C-F2B259C82A23@virginmedia.com> Hi Dane! It seems to show all your contacts not just your Skype ones! hth Colin On 2 Jun 2011, at 10:23, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Anyone know what this button is supposed to do in skype? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Thu Jun 2 11:27:12 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Colin M) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:27:12 +0100 Subject: Contacts Monitor button in Skype In-Reply-To: <79245434-7CF4-4DCA-88F3-0CE92A621C40@internode.on.net> References: <79245434-7CF4-4DCA-88F3-0CE92A621C40@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hi Dane! Sorry brain not working yet! The button toggles between just showing online contacts and all contacts even if there offline! :] Colin On 2 Jun 2011, at 10:23, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Anyone know what this button is supposed to do in skype? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Thu Jun 2 11:48:12 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 07:48:12 -0300 Subject: Contacts Monitor button in Skype References: <79245434-7CF4-4DCA-88F3-0CE92A621C40@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <7E4997BA32AB46929444A69A9FFBDDFC@CNIBnotebook> Dane: I think that it is just your online contacts. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:23 AM Subject: Contacts Monitor button in Skype > Hi! > > Anyone know what this button is supposed to do in skype? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 12:00:11 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:00:11 +0100 Subject: People Are Still Using CC Message-ID: <8E47076F-9358-4341-9469-3D09808A05C4@mac-access.net> Hi all It seems that the message still hasn't hit home. I know we have new members, but this is listed in the list policy document which is sent to all members when they join. Messages you send as CC messages to the list will not appear on the list, so you're wasting your own time and ours. I'm about to go and fix another moderator request, so you'll know when your message was rejected. It seems that forcing bounces is the only way to remind people of the policy. We don't allow carbon copied messages because it's a technique that spammers use. As is sending messages to multiple lists. So, if you try to send messages to this list and to other lists all at the same time, your message will bounce. Gordon From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 13:32:37 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:32:37 +0100 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Tracy On 2 Jun 2011, at 07:39, Tracy Duffy wrote: I created some mail boxes, but there is no way to create message rules in preferences. With all due respect, you're mistaken. There is a "Rules" button in Preferences which you can access by pressing "Command Plus Comma" and then use the tab key to move around. ? I mean something different by mail rules anyway. What I wanted to do was to have the mail that came from certain groups be put into certain folders or mail boxes. Unless I'm missing something, the best I can do is to move messages myself to those boxes. Is that right, or can someone guide me to a different conclusion? Yes, you've missing something. Lynne From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Thu Jun 2 13:58:23 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:58:23 +0100 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Actually I've had trouble working this out too. I think it would be helpful if some kind soul would do an idiots walk through the proceedure for us thick types. Regards G From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. Catch the buzz at http://www.bridgerule.co.uk On 2 Jun 2011, at 13:32, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Tracy > > On 2 Jun 2011, at 07:39, Tracy Duffy wrote: > > I created some mail boxes, but there is no way to create message rules in preferences. > > With all due respect, you're mistaken. There is a "Rules" button in Preferences which you can access by pressing "Command Plus Comma" and then use the tab key to move around. > > ? I mean something different by mail rules anyway. What I wanted to do was to have the mail that came from certain groups be put into certain folders or mail boxes. Unless I'm missing something, the best I can do is to move messages myself to those boxes. Is that right, or can someone guide me to a different conclusion? > > Yes, you've missing something. > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Jun 2 14:59:47 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:59:47 +0100 Subject: Unhiding a hidden folder Message-ID: <98CC9249-AF54-460E-AB17-4F568E616151@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, Is there any way to unhide a hidden folder on the latest Snow Leopard given that I have administrator privileges? I can access the contents of the hidden folder by using the go to menu of Finder but I often need to do this and would prefer the folder not to be hidden. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From wyattrose at samobile.net Thu Jun 2 15:01:06 2011 From: wyattrose at samobile.net (Wyatt Rose, an SA Mobile Network User) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:01:06 -0400 Subject: introduction Message-ID: <20110602140106.21713.16852@ip-10-203-66-216.ec2.internal> Hi, My name is Wyatt Rose. I have an ipod touch 4th generation, 8 gigabyte. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. From moopiecurran at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 16:10:20 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:10:20 -0400 Subject: introduction In-Reply-To: <20110602140106.21713.16852@ip-10-203-66-216.ec2.internal> References: <20110602140106.21713.16852@ip-10-203-66-216.ec2.internal> Message-ID: Hi Wyatt, Welcome to the list, I hope you enjoy your Ipod touch, if you have any questions or need help with something involving the Ipod touch, you're certainly welcome to ask. Courtney Sent from my iPod On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:01 AM, "Wyatt Rose, an SA Mobile Network User" wrote: > Hi, > My name is Wyatt Rose. > I have an ipod touch 4th generation, 8 gigabyte. > > -- > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 16:17:35 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:17:35 +0100 Subject: Nox! Message-ID: <4BDDECF9-EE84-45C0-B4C7-B5A3D681DC30@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I am sure, (well, make that almost sure), I once used a file protection system for OSX called "Nox". it was a file encryption utility and supposedly the best method of protecting your files. Does anybody know where this thing lives by any chance? Lynne From support at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 16:29:08 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:29:08 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Wyatt Rose to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Thu Jun 2 16:39:50 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:39:50 +0100 Subject: introduction In-Reply-To: References: <20110602140106.21713.16852@ip-10-203-66-216.ec2.internal> Message-ID: <4DE7AEC6.9090704@googlemail.com> Hi all. Same here. Welcome to the list and feel free to ask anything about the iPod Touch, the 4g at least as this is what I have and love it. I have the 32 GB version. Not that this matters but thought I would pass this on. Take care. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird On 02/06/2011 16:10, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi Wyatt, > Welcome to the list, I hope you enjoy your Ipod touch, if you have any questions or need help with something involving the Ipod touch, you're certainly welcome to ask. > Courtney > > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:01 AM, "Wyatt Rose, an SA Mobile Network User" wrote: > >> Hi, >> My name is Wyatt Rose. >> I have an ipod touch 4th generation, 8 gigabyte. >> >> -- >> Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 16:42:37 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:42:37 +0100 Subject: Mac-Access In-Reply-To: <4DE7AEC6.9090704@googlemail.com> References: <20110602140106.21713.16852@ip-10-203-66-216.ec2.internal> <4DE7AEC6.9090704@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <6D12861A-8BCA-4A0F-8004-D07ADE6C09AB@mac-access.net> This list is about anything Apple or related, including third-party. We're not just an iPod list. Thought I'd better make that clear for the benefit of new members. Gordon From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 2 16:42:41 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 01:42:41 +1000 Subject: Nox! In-Reply-To: <4BDDECF9-EE84-45C0-B4C7-B5A3D681DC30@mac-access.net> References: <4BDDECF9-EE84-45C0-B4C7-B5A3D681DC30@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Yep, Hello everybody > > > I am sure, (well, make that almost sure), I once used a file protection system for OSX called "Nox". it was a file encryption utility and supposedly the best method of protecting your files. > > Does anybody know where this thing lives by any chance? > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 16:56:45 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:56:45 +0100 Subject: Nox! In-Reply-To: References: <4BDDECF9-EE84-45C0-B4C7-B5A3D681DC30@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3C852D01-D594-4E3D-9CCB-BB869BBC3C60@mac-access.net> Hello Dane On 2 Jun 2011, at 16:42, Dane Trethowan wrote: Yep, or something like that. Lynne On 03/06/2011, at 1:17 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > > I am sure, (well, make that almost sure), I once used a file protection system for OSX called "Nox". it was a file encryption utility and supposedly the best method of protecting your files. > > Does anybody know where this thing lives by any chance? > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 2 17:04:15 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 02:04:15 +1000 Subject: Nox! In-Reply-To: <3C852D01-D594-4E3D-9CCB-BB869BBC3C60@mac-access.net> References: <4BDDECF9-EE84-45C0-B4C7-B5A3D681DC30@mac-access.net> <3C852D01-D594-4E3D-9CCB-BB869BBC3C60@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Yep it is. On 03/06/2011, at 1:56 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > On 2 Jun 2011, at 16:42, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Yep, > Is it an Agile produce? Thanks, that's solved that. we already have it registered if that's the case. > > I think their primary site is or something like that. > > Lynne > > > On 03/06/2011, at 1:17 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> >> I am sure, (well, make that almost sure), I once used a file protection system for OSX called "Nox". it was a file encryption utility and supposedly the best method of protecting your files. >> >> Does anybody know where this thing lives by any chance? >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 17:17:31 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:17:31 +0200 Subject: Nox! In-Reply-To: References: <4BDDECF9-EE84-45C0-B4C7-B5A3D681DC30@mac-access.net> <3C852D01-D594-4E3D-9CCB-BB869BBC3C60@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6668761F-72A4-48AC-8BE9-E08C09E0F33A@gmail.com> Hi! Actually, the proper address for their site is http://agilebits.com/ If you type in http://agilewebsolutions.com which was their previous website, you are redirected to the first link I provided. Here, you can get their other software too, as well as the two already mentioned here. Regards, Nic On Jun 2, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Yep it is. > > > On 03/06/2011, at 1:56 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Dane >> >> On 2 Jun 2011, at 16:42, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> Yep, > >> Is it an Agile produce? Thanks, that's solved that. we already have it registered if that's the case. >> >> I think their primary site is or something like that. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> On 03/06/2011, at 1:17 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> >>> I am sure, (well, make that almost sure), I once used a file protection system for OSX called "Nox". it was a file encryption utility and supposedly the best method of protecting your files. >>> >>> Does anybody know where this thing lives by any chance? >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 18:16:41 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:16:41 +0100 Subject: Agile Software In-Reply-To: <6668761F-72A4-48AC-8BE9-E08C09E0F33A@gmail.com> References: <4BDDECF9-EE84-45C0-B4C7-B5A3D681DC30@mac-access.net> <3C852D01-D594-4E3D-9CCB-BB869BBC3C60@mac-access.net> <6668761F-72A4-48AC-8BE9-E08C09E0F33A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5EB847F3-CD94-4CC8-A03F-2107C6832661@mac-access.net> Hello Nic On 2 Jun 2011, at 17:17, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: ? Actually, the proper address for their site is http://agilebits.com/ Yeah, I found them after writing that message. But thank you anyway it is good for reference. Lynne From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 2 18:18:20 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 03:18:20 +1000 Subject: Agile Software In-Reply-To: <5EB847F3-CD94-4CC8-A03F-2107C6832661@mac-access.net> References: <4BDDECF9-EE84-45C0-B4C7-B5A3D681DC30@mac-access.net> <3C852D01-D594-4E3D-9CCB-BB869BBC3C60@mac-access.net> <6668761F-72A4-48AC-8BE9-E08C09E0F33A@gmail.com> <5EB847F3-CD94-4CC8-A03F-2107C6832661@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4B8ED26C-FF83-45FF-AFE2-86D26148F3BA@internode.on.net> Yep sorry, I couldn't think of the original link, the 1 password link immediately came to mind and I knew people would be able to find Knox from there. On 03/06/2011, at 3:16 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > On 2 Jun 2011, at 17:17, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > ? Actually, the proper address for their site is > http://agilebits.com/ > > Yeah, I found them after writing that message. But thank you anyway it is good for reference. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 18:52:02 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:52:02 +0100 Subject: Unhiding a hidden folder In-Reply-To: <98CC9249-AF54-460E-AB17-4F568E616151@hopewell.org.uk> References: <98CC9249-AF54-460E-AB17-4F568E616151@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <522B8DCD-8867-44DF-8EA0-8FF3AB9ECAF8@mac-access.net> Hello Paul, On 2 Jun 2011, at 14:59, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Is there any way to unhide a hidden folder on the latest Snow Leopard given that I have administrator privileges? I can access the contents of the hidden folder by using the go to menu of Finder but I often need to do this and would prefer the folder not to be hidden. > Many thanks. Sure, you can do this via Terminal. Simply open Terminal and either type or paste in the following line: defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE You'll then need to restart Finder for this to take effect. You can do this by: killall Finder If you want to change this back at a later date, simply change TRUE to FALSE Two small caveats here: 1. If you're going to type this, type it exactly as shown, as mistyping commands on the Command Line could result in something you did not intend. The statement "true" is capitalised. 2. Just so everyone is aware though, hidden files in UNIX, a variant of which is the foundation of Mac OS X, are used by the system and *should not be altered by users* unless they know what they are doing as changing these files can have serious consequences. All of these files are preceded by a period, which means that the normal user cannot see them in their day-to-day navigation or use of the computer. Also, this use of the period before a filename, is reserved for the system, so if you try to hide a file in this way, you'll be given a friendly warning by Finder. You may be able to bypass though by using Terminal. HTH TC :) James > Hello, > Is there any way to unhide a hidden folder on the latest Snow Leopard given that I have administrator privileges? I can access the contents of the hidden folder by using the go to menu of Finder but I often need to do this and would prefer the folder not to be hidden. > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Thu Jun 2 19:16:57 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Colin M) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:16:57 +0100 Subject: Adium question Message-ID: <38D893F0-3FC4-4864-81E5-5D2D2E12E27A@virginmedia.com> Hi All! I've finely got Adium up and running! And was wondering if or how you can stay at the bottom of the chat window or do you have to keep interacting and scrolling to the bottom every time? Any advice welcome! Colin highlighted From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:54:54 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:54:54 -0700 Subject: Adium question In-Reply-To: <38D893F0-3FC4-4864-81E5-5D2D2E12E27A@virginmedia.com> References: <38D893F0-3FC4-4864-81E5-5D2D2E12E27A@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: You end up at the bottom every time you interact with that unknown. I believe that's the case. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Colin M wrote: > Hi All! > I've finely got Adium up and running! > And was wondering if or how you can stay at the bottom of the chat window or do you have to keep interacting and scrolling to the bottom every time? > Any advice welcome! > Colin > highlighted > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 20:23:16 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:23:16 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Text Expander Message-ID: Hello everybody Just a note to let you know that the brand new Take Control book "Take Control of Text Expander" is available for purchase from here. Priced at just ?1.55 GBP we think this is a bargain. Lynne From moriond at mac.com Thu Jun 2 20:27:35 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 09:27:35 -1000 Subject: Using the free OnyX application for Mac maintenance and configuration [was Re: Unhiding a hidden folder] In-Reply-To: <522B8DCD-8867-44DF-8EA0-8FF3AB9ECAF8@mac-access.net> References: <98CC9249-AF54-460E-AB17-4F568E616151@hopewell.org.uk> <522B8DCD-8867-44DF-8EA0-8FF3AB9ECAF8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5B70760E-BFE9-4AC4-9610-16F7C57FFAB4@mac.com> Hi Paul, James, and Others, For those who want to gain control of hiding or unhiding "hidden" folders without having to remember the "defaults write" command that James listed and resorting to typing these commands in Terminal, an easy way is to get the free OnyX maintenance app. There are separate versions of OnyX for Snow Leopard, Leopard, and Tiger, so you should get the version appropriate to your operating system, if you are running an earlier version of Mac OS X. A good general site to check for software sources is the MacUpdate web site. It contains links to most current Mac software along with user ratings and comments. There is both a direct download link and a link that will take you to the developer's web page. However, what makes this site easy to use is their adoption of a common format: each application has a brief description, a "What's new" description, a statement of requirements, and, if you navigate to the "information_tab_on.gif" image, you can continue to read statistics such as the number of downloads, price and license type, and date of the latest version. In addition to the user comments about the software, you can find other suggestions for alternate software to perform similar functions. Here's the link to the MacUpdate page entry for OnyX (for Snow Leopard), followed by the description: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11582/onyx "OnyX is a multifunction utility for Mac OS X. It allows you to verify the Startup Disk and the structure of its System files, to run miscellaneous tasks of system maintenance, to configure the hidden parameters of the Finder, Dock and of some of Apple's own applications, to delete caches, to remove a certain number of files and folders that may become cumbersome and more." That page also gives links to versions of OnyX for Leopard and Tiger. If the MacUpdate link for a software program doesn't automatically show up in a Google search, you can add it explicitly to your search terms. For example, in Safari you can press Command-Option-F to go to the Google Search bar, type in "OnyX MacUpdate", and then press return to find the software at MacUpdate. To specifically answer Paul's question, if he has OnyX already loaded on his system, he can select "Parameters" in the OnyX toolbar, then choose the "Finder" tab. Under the Miscellaneous Options for "Finder" there is a check box for "Show hidden files and folders". Checking and unchecking this box is probably an easier way to remember how to enable or disable the "hidden files". The "hidden files" are generally system files that you won't want to change. They are also called "dot files" because their names are preceded by a period. For example, a ".login" file might include programs or actions you want to automatically run on login. Or you could set up special configurations for your terminal "shell" in a ".bashrc" file. All hidden files can be listed from terminal by using the "ls -a" command to list files (where "a" stands for "all" -- including hidden files). However, to "unhide" these files in Finder, you must either issue a terminal commands such as James outlined, or use checkboxes in a program such as OnyX to make them displayable. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 2, 2011, at 07:52, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > Hello Paul, > On 2 Jun 2011, at 14:59, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> Is there any way to unhide a hidden folder on the latest Snow Leopard given that I have administrator privileges? I can access the contents of the hidden folder by using the go to menu of Finder but I often need to do this and would prefer the folder not to be hidden. >> Many thanks. > Sure, you can do this via Terminal. Simply open Terminal and either type or paste in the following line: > > defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE > > You'll then need to restart Finder for this to take effect. You can do this by: > > killall Finder > > If you want to change this back at a later date, simply change TRUE to FALSE > > Two small caveats here: > > 1. If you're going to type this, type it exactly as shown, as mistyping commands on the Command Line could result in something you did not intend. The statement "true" is capitalised. > > 2. Just so everyone is aware though, hidden files in UNIX, a variant of which is the foundation of Mac OS X, are used by the system and *should not be altered by users* unless they know what they are doing as changing these files can have serious consequences. All of these files are preceded by a period, which means that the normal user cannot see them in their day-to-day navigation or use of the computer. Also, this use of the period before a filename, is reserved for the system, so if you try to hide a file in this way, you'll be given a friendly warning by Finder. You may be able to bypass though by using Terminal. > > HTH > TC :) > James >> Hello, >> Is there any way to unhide a hidden folder on the latest Snow Leopard given that I have administrator privileges? I can access the contents of the hidden folder by using the go to menu of Finder but I often need to do this and would prefer the folder not to be hidden. >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 20:57:44 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:57:44 -0700 Subject: Take Control of Text Expander In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1C9B91B7-E790-40DB-9733-49331F425247@gmail.com> lol. coolio. I don't use text expander but to each his or her own. and glad the book is availiab.e. the author is wonderful and his blog posts are understandable. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Just a note to let you know that the brand new Take Control book "Take Control of Text Expander" is available for purchase from here. Priced at just ?1.55 GBP we think this is a bargain. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Thu Jun 2 21:05:01 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Colin M) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:05:01 +0100 Subject: Adium question In-Reply-To: References: <38D893F0-3FC4-4864-81E5-5D2D2E12E27A@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah! On mine each time I interact with the unknown field I'm at the first entry! Colin On 2 Jun 2011, at 19:54, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You end up at the bottom every time you interact with that unknown. I believe that's the case. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi All! >> I've finely got Adium up and running! >> And was wondering if or how you can stay at the bottom of the chat window or do you have to keep interacting and scrolling to the bottom every time? >> Any advice welcome! >> Colin >> highlighted >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 21:12:07 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:12:07 -0700 Subject: Adium question In-Reply-To: References: <38D893F0-3FC4-4864-81E5-5D2D2E12E27A@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <5A9246CE-9B6F-4CA7-8750-B984DE44F02B@gmail.com> HmmI seem to be placed somewhere at random and my adium I can't vo left a lot as it will just quit. I've talked to the dev about this but it still has not been fixed. I think he's confused lol! Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 2, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Sarah! > On mine each time I interact with the unknown field I'm at the first entry! > Colin > On 2 Jun 2011, at 19:54, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> You end up at the bottom every time you interact with that unknown. I believe that's the case. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi All! >>> I've finely got Adium up and running! >>> And was wondering if or how you can stay at the bottom of the chat window or do you have to keep interacting and scrolling to the bottom every time? >>> Any advice welcome! >>> Colin >>> highlighted >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Thu Jun 2 21:34:59 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:34:59 -0400 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: As I explained in another message, the problem is that my software had not been updated. At that pointk there was in fact no message rules button in preferences. There is now though. Had I found it before, I would not have been asking questions, or at least not the same ones as I did. On Jun 2, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Tracy > > On 2 Jun 2011, at 07:39, Tracy Duffy wrote: > > I created some mail boxes, but there is no way to create message rules in preferences. > > With all due respect, you're mistaken. There is a "Rules" button in Preferences which you can access by pressing "Command Plus Comma" and then use the tab key to move around. > > ? I mean something different by mail rules anyway. What I wanted to do was to have the mail that came from certain groups be put into certain folders or mail boxes. Unless I'm missing something, the best I can do is to move messages myself to those boxes. Is that right, or can someone guide me to a different conclusion? > > Yes, you've missing something. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jekis at fastmail.us Thu Jun 2 21:51:09 2011 From: jekis at fastmail.us (Justin Ekis) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:51:09 -0700 Subject: Take Control of Text Expander In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3533596A-0D37-42B5-A7B0-CC5DC6411867@fastmail.us> Hi Lynne, I've always thought text expander sounded like an interesting idea, but I was never really sure what I would use it for personally. At this price, I can afford to read the book to get many examples of how it is used. This will be in the next batch of take control books that I order, probably in August. Thanks for letting us know. Justin On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: Hello everybody Just a note to let you know that the brand new Take Control book "Take Control of Text Expander" is available for purchase from here. Priced at just ?1.55 GBP we think this is a bargain. Lynne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 22:25:26 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:25:26 -0500 Subject: iWork for iOS - Inaccessible/Unuseable with VoiceOver Message-ID: My Bug list for Inaccessible/Unuseable iOS iWork, VoiceOver Accessibility. iWork (Pages, Numbers, and KeyNote) 1.4, iOS (iPad 2 and iPhone 4) 4.3.3, VoiceOver Pages * Unfortunate, doesn't work well. Can't select objects and perform actions on them. * If I select object, swipe or touch anywhere, except info button. Selection will be cleared. * Inserting tables, charts, etc is possible, but non-descriptive buttons and no way to edit diagram data. * It's possible to show/hide ruler, but not accessible. Only italic/bold/underline and justification is spoken. * Many unlabeled controls under Info pop-up. * No way to check pixel/inch position of body of text. * No way to Perform action on object, even to check font/paragraph info line/word * Line navigation using Apple bluetooth keyboard is slow. Touch screen is fluid. * No HTML navigation. No Dropbox sharing. KeyNote * Adding slide, grid of various slide type appear, which one can *not* swipe to. Must touch/drag. * Adding content to one slide, then trying to add content to another slide, KeyNote will crash, report file is corrupt, and close. * If "start slide show" is activated, VoiceOver doesn't read any part of app, including slide content, slide controls, speaker notes, etc Numbers * cell selection is not possible * manipulation/formatting of non-selected cells is not possible *row navigation is *not possible. Conclusion: #iWork for iOS, even iPhone V1.4 is an improvement. However, lots of work yet for #VoiceOver#accessibility needs to be done, before it's even considered "usable", but after a lot more work for true "accessibility" Unfortunately, #iPad#VoiceOver#accessibility of #iWork entire suite is very poor All same issues as that was detailed for iPhone version. From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 22:46:32 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 23:46:32 +0200 Subject: Adium question In-Reply-To: References: <38D893F0-3FC4-4864-81E5-5D2D2E12E27A@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <4DE804B8.3000405@gmail.com> Hello Colin To make this easier, you can set up events for Adium for specific sound sets. This means that you can technically enable various different events for sound sets, so if you like the iChat sounds, for example, you can switch to iChat when creating another notification preset. Obviously, you are not required to select different sounds, so if you want, you can simply leave that alone and simply use it for an easy switch of spoken events. To find the Events preferences, hit Command-Comma to go into Preferences, then interact with the Toolbar. Next, move to the events button and hit VO-Space to select it. In some cases in Adium, you are not thrown out of the toolbar as you should be,so simply stop interacting and move right with the VoiceOver keys to focus on the events table. If you just want to use the "Default notifications" you can leave the pop up alone which governs what notifications you are currently using. This allows for a high degree of customization, allowing you to include extras should you wish to download them. It is also worth noting that it appears that you can save as many configurations as you would like to save. If you want to assign an event to a current notification, select the "Events" table, then interact with it. Now, simply move down with either VO-Down or down arrow on its own to move through the table, and when you see an notification you would like to assign an event to, simply stop interacting with the table, then VO-right until you reach the "Add" button and hit VO-Space. To see what events are currently assigned to a notification, simply move to the third column right next to the name of the notification. If you are not interacting, VoiceOver will automatically read all the columns in a row. In this case, if you want to expand a notification to remove one or more of its events, you can either use VO-Backslash to expand it or simply use the right arrow key which performs the same action. When expanding a notification, simply move to the event you would like to edit or remove, stop interacting if you are, and VO-right to either the "Edit" or "Remove" buttons. Editing obviously lets you recreate the event as you see fit. Adding events is also relatively simply. You simply hit the "Add" button after selecting the notification you would like to add an event to, then select the type of event such as "Speak event." When selecting the different pop up choices, the options will change to reflect your selection. In the case of "Speak event," options to select exactly what is spoken such as name and time appear, including whether or not to use a custom speech rate and pitch as well as voice. If you uncheck the custom checkboxes, it will obey the options set under System Preferences in the Speech category. Additionally, you may also switch off Cursor Tracking with VO-Shift-F3. In this case, you obviously do not need these events in case you want to read them as they come in at your own leisure. Switching off Cursor Tracking is actually very handy, as the keyboard focus doesn't move the VoiceOver cursor. This enables you to read what you have written using the arrow keys only, and quickly read incoming information in any application as soon as it comes in by simply leaving the VoiceOver cursor in the preferred area. This is handy in Applications like Skype as well, particularly Skype 5.1. When you interact with the HTML content area, which VoiceOver reports as "unknown," you are primarily always put at the top of the chat. You can use a command like FN-Shift-VO-End to get to the bottom and FN-Shift--VO-Home to get to the top, though primarily you may be able to ditch the Shift key in favor of only using FN-VO home and end. I hope this helps. I wanted to provide the information about the events so that it might make it a bit easier and make it so that you have to move around less within Adium. Regards, Nic On Jun 2, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You end up at the bottom every time you interact with that unknown. I > believe that's the case. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to > contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi All! >> I've finely got Adium up and running! >> And was wondering if or how you can stay at the bottom of the chat >> window or do you have to keep interacting and scrolling to the bottom >> every time? >> Any advice welcome! >> Colin >> highlighted >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >> the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to > the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Thu Jun 2 22:53:38 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:53:38 -0500 Subject: Amadeus Pro User Guide Message-ID: Hello All: I've converted the PDF manual to RTF and by the permission of Martin Hairer will post a link to my DropBox and will leave it there for a week. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15808496/Amadeus-Pro-UserGuide.rtf From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 22:54:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:54:27 -0700 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Ah missed it. lol! Oops? Hmm it was there when I first started mail in snl but maybe that's when it was first introduced. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 2, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > As I explained in another message, the problem is that my software had not been updated. At that pointk there was in fact no message rules button in preferences. There is now though. Had I found it before, I would not have been asking questions, or at least not the same ones as I did. > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Tracy >> >> On 2 Jun 2011, at 07:39, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >> I created some mail boxes, but there is no way to create message rules in preferences. >> >> With all due respect, you're mistaken. There is a "Rules" button in Preferences which you can access by pressing "Command Plus Comma" and then use the tab key to move around. >> >> ? I mean something different by mail rules anyway. What I wanted to do was to have the mail that came from certain groups be put into certain folders or mail boxes. Unless I'm missing something, the best I can do is to move messages myself to those boxes. Is that right, or can someone guide me to a different conclusion? >> >> Yes, you've missing something. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 22:55:03 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:55:03 -0700 Subject: Amadeus Pro User Guide In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wonder why he didn't convert it to html and have it use the mac's help system to read it? Ah well. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 2, 2011, at 2:53 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Hello All: > > I've converted the PDF manual to RTF and by the permission of Martin Hairer will post a link to my DropBox and will leave it there for a week. > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15808496/Amadeus-Pro-UserGuide.rtf > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kfjelsted at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 22:56:10 2011 From: kfjelsted at gmail.com (Kevin Fjelsted) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:56:10 -0500 Subject: iWork for iOS - Inaccessible/Unuseable with VoiceOver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <031F9DE3-1B15-4DBF-AE04-7359A646575E@gmail.com> Kevin; Have you forwarded this to Apple Accessibility? If not there email is accessibility at apple.com -Kevin On Jun 2, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > My Bug list for Inaccessible/Unuseable iOS iWork, VoiceOver Accessibility. > > iWork (Pages, Numbers, and KeyNote) 1.4, iOS (iPad 2 and iPhone 4) > 4.3.3, VoiceOver > > Pages > * Unfortunate, doesn't work well. Can't select objects and perform > actions on them. > * If I select object, swipe or touch anywhere, except info button. > Selection will be cleared. > * Inserting tables, charts, etc is possible, but non-descriptive > buttons and no way to edit diagram data. > * It's possible to show/hide ruler, but not accessible. Only > italic/bold/underline and justification is spoken. > * Many unlabeled controls under Info pop-up. > * No way to check pixel/inch position of body of text. > * No way to Perform action on object, even to check font/paragraph > info line/word > * Line navigation using Apple bluetooth keyboard is slow. Touch screen is fluid. > * No HTML navigation. No Dropbox sharing. > > > KeyNote > * Adding slide, grid of various slide type appear, which one can *not* > swipe to. Must touch/drag. > * Adding content to one slide, then trying to add content to another > slide, KeyNote will crash, report file is corrupt, and close. > * If "start slide show" is activated, VoiceOver doesn't read any part > of app, including slide content, slide controls, speaker notes, etc > > > Numbers > * cell selection is not possible > * manipulation/formatting of non-selected cells is not possible > *row navigation is *not possible. > > Conclusion: #iWork for iOS, even iPhone V1.4 is an improvement. > However, lots of work yet for #VoiceOver#accessibility needs to be > done, before it's even considered "usable", but after a lot more work > for true "accessibility" > > Unfortunately, #iPad#VoiceOver#accessibility of #iWork entire suite is > very poor All same issues as that was detailed for iPhone version. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 23:39:16 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 23:39:16 +0100 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <840F4A3B-6DAD-415F-8AFC-E8DDA1304549@mac-access.net> Hello Gordon On 2 Jun 2011, at 13:58, Gordon Keen wrote: ? Actually I've had trouble working this out too. I think it would be helpful if some kind soul would do an idiots walk through the proceedure for us thick types. I've asked Gordon to knock something up in the next day or so. It will appear on the Mac Access podcast. Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 23:40:36 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 23:40:36 +0100 Subject: Adobe DRM or Digital and Ebooks on Mac OS X Message-ID: Evening everyone, Can anyone enlighten me pleas? Can we read Adobe DRM E-books or Digital Editions on Mac OS X are are we restricted to the EPub format? Thanks TC :) James From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 23:46:21 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 23:46:21 +0100 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0A961EC7-D22A-4E70-B3D1-48D6E7530314@mac-access.net> Hello Tracy On 2 Jun 2011, at 21:34, Tracy Duffy wrote: ? As I explained in another message, the problem is that my software had not been updated. At that pointk there was in fact no message rules button in preferences. There is now though. Had I found it before, I would not have been asking questions, or at least not the same ones as I did. Yes; I saw your message but, like you, I didn't see it until after I had written the last response. I'm glad you're sorted but I'm a little confused why you weren't getting the Rules button in the previous version of Mail. To my knowledge it's always been there. However, not to worry; at least you're off the ground now. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 23:48:26 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 23:48:26 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Text Expander In-Reply-To: <3533596A-0D37-42B5-A7B0-CC5DC6411867@fastmail.us> References: <3533596A-0D37-42B5-A7B0-CC5DC6411867@fastmail.us> Message-ID: <1F83D55B-A613-4B86-B13E-AFB55756B8D7@mac-access.net> Hello Justin On 2 Jun 2011, at 21:51, Justin Ekis wrote: ? I've always thought text expander sounded like an interesting idea, but I was never really sure what I would use it for personally. At this price, I can afford to read the book to get many examples of how it is used. This will be in the next batch of take control books that I order, probably in August. Text Expander is something I couldn't live without. It saves repeating typing the same things over and over again. It also lets you have dynamic mail signatures and lots lots more things. Lynne From support at mac-access.net Thu Jun 2 23:53:17 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 23:53:17 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <5CBF90E5-0CC6-4D69-9AC5-D173198602C6@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Jonathan C. Cohn to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From mattchao at verizon.net Fri Jun 3 00:29:26 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:29:26 -0400 Subject: Amadeus Pro User Guide In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0LM600M7TRX4CMA0@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, John! Thanks much. I just downloaded the manual. Matthew Chao At 05:53 PM 6/2/2011, you wrote: >Hello All: > >I've converted the PDF manual to RTF and by the permission of Martin >Hairer will post a link to my DropBox and will leave it there for a week. > >http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15808496/Amadeus-Pro-UserGuide.rtf > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >signature database 6175 (20110602) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com From n0oxy at charter.net Fri Jun 3 00:55:47 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:55:47 -0500 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_What_Voice_Recognition_Technology_Could_M?= =?windows-1252?Q?ean_for_Apple_=97_and_All_of_Us?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <261D42A9-0A91-4AEE-8172-25DD79FF88CD@charter.net> Actually, this is already on Android, and it's very accurate. You can dictate directly in to any application, I was quite impressed by how accurate it was, so Apple is really just playing catch up with this feature. On Jun 1, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > a short but interesting read. I have no luck with this at all. Maybe I speak to precise. > > Enjoy. > > What Voice Recognition Technology Could Mean for Apple ? and All of Us > > Voice recognition has long been billed as a kind of holy grail of mobile computing, but the reality is that the technology has been awkward, inaccurate and often unusable, resulting in misdialed phone calls and incomprehensible messages. So it?s no surprise it?s failed to garner much usage in mobile. > > Apple may be positioned to change all that, though, with the iOS 5 platform it will outline at next week?s WWDC in San Francisco. The company has reportedly been in discussions to license Nuance?s effective voice technology ? dubbed Dragon ? and may integrate it with the new version of iOS 5. Apple could make the technology available to developers as a built-in API in iOS 5, handing app creators a valuable new tool. Such a move would not only give voice recognition a much-needed push into the mobile mainstream, it would give Apple the chance to once again transform the way we interact with our phones. Here?s why: > > 1) Voice recognition technology is finally ready for prime time. Dragon powers Nuance?s FlexT9 for Android, a dictation app that sells for a mere $5 and enjoys a four-star user rating after more than 1,100 reviews. And there is no shortage of compelling use cases, from accessing a navigation app while driving (when your hands should be on the wheel) to dictating lengthy messages rather than typing on a miniature keyboard. > > 2) Apple knows how to educate the consumer. Voice recognition has come a long way, but using it still isn?t always intuitive. Google?s technology, for example, requires users to say the words ?period? or ?comma? if they want to add punctuation to their messages. But Apple?s marketing genius lies in showing consumers how to use technology: The first iPhone commercials were essentially tutorials in how to surf the Web, access email and find nearby businesses on the handset. A similar campaign could illustrate how to do all those things and more by talking, not typing. > > 3) Apple is a master of the user interface. The touchscreen was nothing new when the iPhone came to market; Apple?s true innovation was in simplifying the technology with an interface that made it easy for users to navigate their phones. The company could do the same with voice by integrating Dragon closely with iOS, making it easy to send messages or navigate the Safari browser by speaking. And the legions of iOS developers will surely find innovative new ways to leverage voice in everything from messaging to gaming to social networking. > > For more thoughts on how Apple could leverage voice recognition technology to change the way we use our phones, see my latest Weekly Update at GigaOM Pro (subscription required). > > Image courtesy Flickr user Lazurite. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jun 3 02:17:58 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 02:17:58 +0100 Subject: Our Online Backup Moves A Step Closer Message-ID: <902C6909-E6A8-4F81-9534-C401D816CBE1@mac-access.net> Hello everybody As most will know, Gordon and I are working towards offering our own online backup solution for our members. We are finalising a document which will be placed in the Mac Access Dot Net website very shortly and which will contain full details of how our service works, plus pricing information. In the meantime, if you would like to see our interface, and have a little tinker around to see what it has to offer, feel free. You may use the below URL to play. Feel free to try uploading any small file and then deleting it. Feel free to pass on your comments but please, off list! That's something we insist on and although your comments off list will always receive a courteous response, comments on list will be ignored and, if they are nasty, we will consider it a breech of list policy. If you don't like it, that's fine. We're not desperate for people to use it as we're not doing this for any sort of financial profit or gain. So, if you try it and hate it, just stick with what you already have, and forget about it. Here is a secure URL where you can find our HTML interface. If you strip the URL down into sections you can also log into the demo area via WebDAV directly from the Finder. We will be releasing the document containing details hopefully later today. The URL to demo the interface is at Again, we welcome your comments off list. But please don't ask for Interface changes, what's here is here to stay. We think the interface is pretty intuitive actually. It includes file search options, plus the ability to upload and download multiple files in a single session by arranging them in a "queue". We're also making our Drop Ship system available to backup users so that links to files uploaded to the server can be sent to others via email. The user will have control over how long the file remains on the server after collection. Drop ship also works in reverse; you can send an email to a non-registered user which will contain a secure link so they can upload a file for you without having to be registered. Once uploaded you will receive an email with a link to your file. We think it's not a bad system considering everything. Anyway I'll tell you more off list if you're interested. But a lot of work has gone into this, so even if you don't like it I will take a very dim view of any criticism that's purely for the sake of criticism. Please send any comments to . Lynne From lmumford at uga.edu Fri Jun 3 03:46:00 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 02:46:00 +0000 Subject: scrolling through mail messages Message-ID: <702DB81C-37F1-41AD-B09A-9E2B2439E013@uga.edu> Hello All, Is there any way I can scroll quickly through a table of messages, or do I have to arrow up or down one at a time. I have a laptop so there's no page down or page up key, but pressing the function key with the up or down arrow does nothing, and it doesn't matter if I'm interacting with the table or not because nothing happens either way. I have the same question about navigating within the body of a mail message itself-- is there a quicker way to scroll down the message or do I have to go one line down/up at a time? Much thanks, Linda From atlasonic at btopenworld.com Fri Jun 3 06:24:07 2011 From: atlasonic at btopenworld.com (Atlasonic Productions) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 06:24:07 +0100 Subject: Resetting password on the mac, please help References: <79245434-7CF4-4DCA-88F3-0CE92A621C40@internode.on.net> <7E4997BA32AB46929444A69A9FFBDDFC@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: <892B2A9C598645A0A8D0F3C8A343261B@alatlas> Hi folks, Trying to install quicktime from my installation apple disk, it is prompting me for my password, which I don't remember! I am the only one using this mac at the moment. Does anyone know how to get this problem solved? Thanks very much. Hatch. From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Jun 3 07:01:22 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:01:22 +0200 Subject: Adobe DRM or Digital and Ebooks on Mac OS X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54F9CB53-5953-4486-B015-F3B8469FFEF2@anarchie.org.uk> Hello James, I'm afraid there's no way of reading protected formats on the Mac. If the books you're wanting to read are from Kobo, you can only read them on an i-device. Cheers, Anne On 3 Jun 2011, at 00:40, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > Evening everyone, > > Can anyone enlighten me pleas? Can we read Adobe DRM E-books or Digital Editions on Mac OS X are are we restricted to the EPub format? > > Thanks > TC :) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Fri Jun 3 07:22:04 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 16:22:04 +1000 Subject: Resetting password on the mac, please help In-Reply-To: <892B2A9C598645A0A8D0F3C8A343261B@alatlas> References: <79245434-7CF4-4DCA-88F3-0CE92A621C40@internode.on.net> <7E4997BA32AB46929444A69A9FFBDDFC@CNIBnotebook> <892B2A9C598645A0A8D0F3C8A343261B@alatlas> Message-ID: <27800D53-B9F8-495B-B438-BD7ECFBC25D0@me.com> If you go to Utilities on your install cd, you will find what you need. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 03/06/2011, at 3:24 PM, Atlasonic Productions wrote: > Hi folks, > > Trying to install quicktime from my installation apple disk, it is prompting me for my password, which I don't remember! > I am the only one using this mac at the moment. > Does anyone know how to get this problem solved? > Thanks very much. > > Hatch. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Fri Jun 3 07:57:21 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:57:21 +0200 Subject: Voice Over and Low Vision In-Reply-To: References: <71DCD668-D062-4B7E-87D1-002A362531E5@busboom.at> Message-ID: <27C694CC-7A1F-4D58-8AE4-A893B593705D@busboom.at> Dear Brian, Your note was great, and I believe that the sharing of your experiences would be of great encouragement to those who are in the process of losing their usable vision. To my way of thinking, your migration from vision to speech is textbook in the most positive sense of the word, i.e. gradually using speech when it was no longer practical to use your vision. Apple did a phenomenal job when it gave people the ability to do precisely what you did and as seamlessly as you apparently did it. My lecture went extremely well, and I would like to thank you and others on the list for their feedback prior to my presentation. Before closing, I would like to pose one question: If I read your note correctly, if a person who is blind already owns an iPhone and a Mac, there isn't much need to own an iPad. Am I correct in making this assumption? Kindest regards, Mike On 31,May,2011, at 4:43 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello Mike, > > I'll share my Mac, iPhone and iPad low-vision and VO experiences and I hope you can find some useful tidbits here. I was fully sighted until my late 30's, but my vision has faded gradually since then and now at age 49 I have approximately 2 hours of blurry closeup vision per day. > > When I got to the point where I needed some screen magnification I was already fortunate enough to own a first generation plastic macbook running OSX Tiger or Leopard, I forget which, so I started using the built-in Zoom and White-on-Black functions with a large external monitor. This worked fantastically for me for a long time. I also enlarged the mouse pointer to the maximum size and slowed it down a bit to make it easier to find and follow around the screen. At that time I was also carrying an IBM Lenovo Thinkpad laptop running Windows XP for my job, and at some point I decided to stop squinting at that screen and instead I installed XP into a VMWare VM on the Macbook , and was able to use OSX's Zoom function to magnify the VM and I was very happy with the results. > > As my vision continued to fade, I started toggling VoiceOver on and off at various times to relieve some eye strain. At first I used VO mostly to perform basic functions such as reading emails and longer documents, which I had to do lots of in my line of work at the time. I also turned on the option for VO to read whatever was under the mouse pointer and this helped me locate some things on the screen. I would often tab or mouse around the screen listening to VO announce where I was and then, once I had located what I wanted to focus on, I would zoom in on it and use my vision to read or view the item. I didn't really begin to dig into the VO commands and Web item rotor etc until this past year. I now use VO for the vast majority of my time spent on the computer. I am really glad the Mac had the various access tools already built in so I could just turn the functions on and start learning them when it became necessary. > > With regard to my iPhone use, I had purchased one of the first generation iPhones back in late 2007 because the screen was very large and the phone dial pad was white-on-black, which made it very visible for me. Although the first generation iPhone did not have any built in accessibility options, the large size of the screen combined with a handheld magnifier made it a useful device for me for a while. Eventually I was no longer able to see the black on white screens that made up most of the default apps such as mail, contacts and calendar, so I sold the iphone and moved to a WinMob phone with Mobile Speak and Mobile Magnifier but always longed to return to the unequaled functionality of the iphone and eventually did so when the iphone 4 was released. As with my Mac, I used the black-on-white and zoom functions when I first got the phone last year and am grateful that this has allowed me to gradually learn and migrate from one level of access to another without having to purc > hase, install, configure and maybe relearn a whole separate accessibility app. At this point I use VO for almost everything on the phone. > > I also purchased an iPad when they were released last year and most of the same things I mentioned for the Mac and iPhone can be applied to the ipad. I was able to use the zoom and white-on-black functions in combination with the large screen to catch glimpses of movies at first and was able to gradually incorporate VO into the mix, . Now that I'm unable to see videos or photos, I've stopped using the ipad and just use the iphone and a mac. > > I hope you find this helpful, and please feel free to ask me for any clarifications or additional information. Best of luck with your lecture! > Cheers, > Bryan > > On May 29, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >> On Tuesday, I will be giving a lecture at Vienna's University of Technology. While I will be covering various aspects of accessibility in general, I wanted to give Mac and Voice Over a prominent place in my presentation. >> >> I was wondering if anyone could tell me how Voice Over can be used to address the needs of those who have some usable vision but might not be able to see well enough to use their Mac in a way that someone with good vision could. Since I myself am totally blind, I have never needed to explore this facet of the Mac and/or Voice Over. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 08:26:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:26:56 -0700 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_What_Voice_Recognition_Technology_Could_M?= =?windows-1252?Q?ean_for_Apple_=97_and_All_of_Us?= In-Reply-To: <261D42A9-0A91-4AEE-8172-25DD79FF88CD@charter.net> References: <261D42A9-0A91-4AEE-8172-25DD79FF88CD@charter.net> Message-ID: <9C53A4CB-F03C-40E8-BEE9-0A7C6B35E4DB@gmail.com> Yeah I know. I've seen mom dictate to her evo, say it as eevo, I call it an evil lol! but anyway she had some mistakes when she would dictate. but hopefully apple will make it so you can let's say pause and it will do in a cama, pause for longer and it puts a period. raise your voice and it will put a question. raise it higher and it might put in an exclamation. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 2, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Actually, this is already on Android, and it's very accurate. You can dictate directly in to any application, I was quite impressed by how accurate it was, so Apple is really just playing catch up with this feature. > On Jun 1, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> a short but interesting read. I have no luck with this at all. Maybe I speak to precise. >> >> Enjoy. >> >> What Voice Recognition Technology Could Mean for Apple ? and All of Us >> >> Voice recognition has long been billed as a kind of holy grail of mobile computing, but the reality is that the technology has been awkward, inaccurate and often unusable, resulting in misdialed phone calls and incomprehensible messages. So it?s no surprise it?s failed to garner much usage in mobile. >> >> Apple may be positioned to change all that, though, with the iOS 5 platform it will outline at next week?s WWDC in San Francisco. The company has reportedly been in discussions to license Nuance?s effective voice technology ? dubbed Dragon ? and may integrate it with the new version of iOS 5. Apple could make the technology available to developers as a built-in API in iOS 5, handing app creators a valuable new tool. Such a move would not only give voice recognition a much-needed push into the mobile mainstream, it would give Apple the chance to once again transform the way we interact with our phones. Here?s why: >> >> 1) Voice recognition technology is finally ready for prime time. Dragon powers Nuance?s FlexT9 for Android, a dictation app that sells for a mere $5 and enjoys a four-star user rating after more than 1,100 reviews. And there is no shortage of compelling use cases, from accessing a navigation app while driving (when your hands should be on the wheel) to dictating lengthy messages rather than typing on a miniature keyboard. >> >> 2) Apple knows how to educate the consumer. Voice recognition has come a long way, but using it still isn?t always intuitive. Google?s technology, for example, requires users to say the words ?period? or ?comma? if they want to add punctuation to their messages. But Apple?s marketing genius lies in showing consumers how to use technology: The first iPhone commercials were essentially tutorials in how to surf the Web, access email and find nearby businesses on the handset. A similar campaign could illustrate how to do all those things and more by talking, not typing. >> >> 3) Apple is a master of the user interface. The touchscreen was nothing new when the iPhone came to market; Apple?s true innovation was in simplifying the technology with an interface that made it easy for users to navigate their phones. The company could do the same with voice by integrating Dragon closely with iOS, making it easy to send messages or navigate the Safari browser by speaking. And the legions of iOS developers will surely find innovative new ways to leverage voice in everything from messaging to gaming to social networking. >> >> For more thoughts on how Apple could leverage voice recognition technology to change the way we use our phones, see my latest Weekly Update at GigaOM Pro (subscription required). >> >> Image courtesy Flickr user Lazurite. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Fri Jun 3 08:47:50 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:47:50 +0100 Subject: using mail. In-Reply-To: <840F4A3B-6DAD-415F-8AFC-E8DDA1304549@mac-access.net> References: <3E2DF429-094C-4A01-9E39-1A0E8B354606@samobile.net> <2CE545F3-82A1-4AD0-B56A-4524ADB5B0C4@virginmedia.com> <56D7451A-79FE-4237-8103-892839313544@gmail.com> <25DF914E-1DD8-471D-B9F3-251E29EDE1EB@mac-access.net> <840F4A3B-6DAD-415F-8AFC-E8DDA1304549@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thank you, I'll look forward to that. Regards G From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. Catch the buzz at http://www.bridgerule.co.uk On 2 Jun 2011, at 23:39, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > I've asked Gordon to knock something up in the next day or so. It will appear on the Mac Access podcast. > > Lynne > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Jun 3 13:14:13 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:14:13 +0100 Subject: Couple of basic iPad questions Message-ID: <0A4C904A-5DB6-4EC2-950F-C389F8D48D35@hopewell.org.uk> Hello All, I have a couple of basic questions about the iPad before I suggest it to a friend.... 1. Does it have a forward facing camera so that you can use it with Skype with video? 2. Does it have a USB socket to which you can attach a printer or a digital camera or a USB SDHC card reader? If not is there some other way to attach external devices? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jun 3 14:05:30 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:05:30 -0500 Subject: scrolling through mail messages In-Reply-To: <702DB81C-37F1-41AD-B09A-9E2B2439E013@uga.edu> References: <702DB81C-37F1-41AD-B09A-9E2B2439E013@uga.edu> Message-ID: <746C1754-54B4-4AD2-9A1A-41E6CB1283C9@softcon.com> I don't know which keyboard you have on your laptop, but scrolling up/ down can be done with just the arrow keys (useful if you want to know subjects, or dates, or authors, or something) or you can use vo/up/ down arrows, accomplishes the same thing as just arrow up/down. However, if you want to go to top/bottom of message list, the keystroke is vo-shift-home or vo-shift-end. Note that you must be interacting with the message table for this to work, and it will (probably) not stay on the same column you're on when using the keystroke, so you'll need to right/left to reacquire your preferred column, but otherwise, it will move to the top or bottom of the list all at once. Moving in smaller increments (as far as I know) is not supported. If you're interested in having fewer messages to navigate, try checking the column that says thread messages, then each set of messages with the same subject will take up only a single row in the mail table, and this will reduce the number of entries in the mail table. hth. From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jun 3 14:14:26 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:14:26 -0500 Subject: Voice Over and Low Vision In-Reply-To: <27C694CC-7A1F-4D58-8AE4-A893B593705D@busboom.at> References: <71DCD668-D062-4B7E-87D1-002A362531E5@busboom.at> <27C694CC-7A1F-4D58-8AE4-A893B593705D@busboom.at> Message-ID: <17C5D50F-3F29-43AA-B469-AEECE4956082@softcon.com> Actually, an iphone, ipod touch, and ipad are targeted at different markets. They're similar to be sure, but each one has it's own particular niche, and certainly doesn't negate any of the other devices. Someone with an iphone may still want an ipod touch, either because the ipod has more memory, or they don't always need the phone portion of the ios. An ipad is no different, just because you have an ipod touch, or an iphone, doesn't mean you can't use an ipad effectively. It's all based on what you're trying to accomplish, and sometimes, the devices don't overlap on functionality, so it won't hurt to have more than one device. We have ipod touches here, though we are definitely thinking about purchasing an ipad, just because it might be easier for the little ones to use since it has a larger screen. Useless to vi users I know, but it could wind up being that the ipad works better for someone who uses it. Since they're all different, there's no reason *not* to have more than one, though there seems to be a lot of folks who think like you do, and if you have one, they think you don't need another one. If you have a laptop, do you need a desktop computer? The answer depends on your needs, same picture here. Some folks can and will use multiple devices, and some won't, but there's no answer that is right for everyone. From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 14:21:18 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:21:18 -0400 Subject: scrolling through mail messages In-Reply-To: <746C1754-54B4-4AD2-9A1A-41E6CB1283C9@softcon.com> References: <702DB81C-37F1-41AD-B09A-9E2B2439E013@uga.edu> <746C1754-54B4-4AD2-9A1A-41E6CB1283C9@softcon.com> Message-ID: <746C18A3-62DE-47E5-9998-63D25BC48DD8@gmail.com> Three finger swipe down scroll down a page This can be reversed based on a voice over setting. THere is also the scroll mode which I have had little usable success working with vo-shift-s will say start scrolling. Jon Jonathan C. Cohn joncohn at cox.net On Jun 3, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > I don't know which keyboard you have on your laptop, but scrolling up/down can be done with just the arrow keys (useful if you want to know subjects, or dates, or authors, or something) or you can use vo/up/down arrows, accomplishes the same thing as just arrow up/down. > However, if you want to go to top/bottom of message list, the keystroke is vo-shift-home or vo-shift-end. > Note that you must be interacting with the message table for this to work, and it will (probably) not stay on the same column you're on when using the keystroke, so you'll need to right/left to reacquire your preferred column, but otherwise, it will move to the top or bottom of the list all at once. Moving in smaller increments (as far as I know) is not supported. > If you're interested in having fewer messages to navigate, try checking the column that says thread messages, then each set of messages with the same subject will take up only a single row in the mail table, and this will reduce the number of entries in the mail table. > hth. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Fri Jun 3 15:00:24 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:00:24 +0100 Subject: mac and admin applications Message-ID: <4de8e678.41c6e30a.2d29.5d08@mx.google.com> i do voluntary work at a hospice and use their volunteer co ordinators computer. however we had to disable windoweyes when i was trying to use it with speech and braille due to the computer being very slow and even for a sighted person it was slow even not running speech software. my boss has just got a new computer. however i am possibly thinking of taking in my mac as a backup in case we continue to have problems with the windows pc. what software would you recommend for admin work which is compatable with microsoft office etc? would something like openoffice for the mac be sufficient? From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Jun 3 15:22:36 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:22:36 +0100 Subject: Unhiding a hidden folder In-Reply-To: <522B8DCD-8867-44DF-8EA0-8FF3AB9ECAF8@mac-access.net> References: <98CC9249-AF54-460E-AB17-4F568E616151@hopewell.org.uk> <522B8DCD-8867-44DF-8EA0-8FF3AB9ECAF8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4BB377EF-7CEA-4B09-A0B9-AD73D5943E7C@hopewell.org.uk> Hello James and Esther, Many thanks for the info. It seems that both the attached terminal command and the ONYX equivalent will let you show or not show all hidden files and folders. Is there any way to unhide just a specific hidden folder while leaving all other hidden folders still hidden? I don't want to unhide them all as Finder will then see critical system folders and files and expose me to accidentally deleting them. The MACUPDATE site looks good..... All the best.... Paul Hopewell On 2 Jun 2011, at 18:52, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > Hello Paul, > On 2 Jun 2011, at 14:59, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> Is there any way to unhide a hidden folder on the latest Snow Leopard given that I have administrator privileges? I can access the contents of the hidden folder by using the go to menu of Finder but I often need to do this and would prefer the folder not to be hidden. >> Many thanks. > Sure, you can do this via Terminal. Simply open Terminal and either type or paste in the following line: > > defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE > > You'll then need to restart Finder for this to take effect. You can do this by: > > killall Finder > > If you want to change this back at a later date, simply change TRUE to FALSE > > Two small caveats here: > > 1. If you're going to type this, type it exactly as shown, as mistyping commands on the Command Line could result in something you did not intend. The statement "true" is capitalised. > > 2. Just so everyone is aware though, hidden files in UNIX, a variant of which is the foundation of Mac OS X, are used by the system and *should not be altered by users* unless they know what they are doing as changing these files can have serious consequences. All of these files are preceded by a period, which means that the normal user cannot see them in their day-to-day navigation or use of the computer. Also, this use of the period before a filename, is reserved for the system, so if you try to hide a file in this way, you'll be given a friendly warning by Finder. You may be able to bypass though by using Terminal. > > HTH > TC :) > James >> Hello, >> Is there any way to unhide a hidden folder on the latest Snow Leopard given that I have administrator privileges? I can access the contents of the hidden folder by using the go to menu of Finder but I often need to do this and would prefer the folder not to be hidden. >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jun 3 15:26:29 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:26:29 +0100 Subject: Online Backup Message-ID: Hello everybody There is a preliminary document explaining how this will work now up on our website. Be mindful of the fact that it's only a draft, and things could still change before prime time. You can find the document by clicking here: Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jun 3 15:33:26 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:33:26 +0100 Subject: Unhiding a hidden folder In-Reply-To: <4BB377EF-7CEA-4B09-A0B9-AD73D5943E7C@hopewell.org.uk> References: <98CC9249-AF54-460E-AB17-4F568E616151@hopewell.org.uk> <522B8DCD-8867-44DF-8EA0-8FF3AB9ECAF8@mac-access.net> <4BB377EF-7CEA-4B09-A0B9-AD73D5943E7C@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <202527F7-7943-492D-B57A-AF08A4A8AC53@mac-access.net> Hello Paul, On 3 Jun 2011, at 15:22, Paul Hopewell wrote: Is there any way to unhide just a specific hidden folder while leaving all other hidden folders still hidden? I don't want to unhide them all as Finder will then see critical system folders and files and expose me to accidentally deleting them. > > Not that I know of, because as I think I said, all the files preceded by a period are system files. I do not think it is possible to hide a folder, say one you create for example except through Terminal. HTH TC :) James > Hello James and Esther, > Many thanks for the info. > > It seems that both the attached terminal command and the ONYX equivalent will let you show or not show all hidden files and folders. Is there any way to unhide just a specific hidden folder while leaving all other hidden folders still hidden? I don't want to unhide them all as Finder will then see critical system folders and files and expose me to accidentally deleting them. > > The MACUPDATE site looks good..... > All the best.... > > Paul Hopewell > > On 2 Jun 2011, at 18:52, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hello Paul, >> On 2 Jun 2011, at 14:59, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>> Is there any way to unhide a hidden folder on the latest Snow Leopard given that I have administrator privileges? I can access the contents of the hidden folder by using the go to menu of Finder but I often need to do this and would prefer the folder not to be hidden. >>> Many thanks. >> Sure, you can do this via Terminal. Simply open Terminal and either type or paste in the following line: >> >> defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE >> >> You'll then need to restart Finder for this to take effect. You can do this by: >> >> killall Finder >> >> If you want to change this back at a later date, simply change TRUE to FALSE >> >> Two small caveats here: >> >> 1. If you're going to type this, type it exactly as shown, as mistyping commands on the Command Line could result in something you did not intend. The statement "true" is capitalised. >> >> 2. Just so everyone is aware though, hidden files in UNIX, a variant of which is the foundation of Mac OS X, are used by the system and *should not be altered by users* unless they know what they are doing as changing these files can have serious consequences. All of these files are preceded by a period, which means that the normal user cannot see them in their day-to-day navigation or use of the computer. Also, this use of the period before a filename, is reserved for the system, so if you try to hide a file in this way, you'll be given a friendly warning by Finder. You may be able to bypass though by using Terminal. >> >> HTH >> TC :) >> James >>> Hello, >>> Is there any way to unhide a hidden folder on the latest Snow Leopard given that I have administrator privileges? I can access the contents of the hidden folder by using the go to menu of Finder but I often need to do this and would prefer the folder not to be hidden. >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 16:38:30 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:38:30 +0100 Subject: daisy creation Message-ID: <2DEC1FB7-F98A-48A6-9A03-1330454FD346@gmail.com> hi all if i have mp3 files that i want to put in to a daisy book format can I do this on mac? i.e. when i play this file make it heading level 2, etc? From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 3 16:50:08 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 01:50:08 +1000 Subject: Take Control of Text Expander In-Reply-To: <1F83D55B-A613-4B86-B13E-AFB55756B8D7@mac-access.net> References: <3533596A-0D37-42B5-A7B0-CC5DC6411867@fastmail.us> <1F83D55B-A613-4B86-B13E-AFB55756B8D7@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4DE902B0.3090702@internode.on.net> I use it every day here, I like the way you can include applescript in your text expander rules so what does this mean for the average user? Well suppose uist for example you are writing a hundred different letters but are sick of using the same celutations all the time, feed Text Expander a list of celutations you wish to use in an Applescript and then when you type the appropriate keystrokes Text Expander can pull one of these celutations out at random. On 3/06/2011 8:48 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Justin > > On 2 Jun 2011, at 21:51, Justin Ekis wrote: > > ? I've always thought text expander sounded like an interesting idea, but I was never really sure what I would use it for personally. At this price, I can afford to read the book to get many examples of how it is used. This will be in the next batch of take control books that I order, probably in August. > > Text Expander is something I couldn't live without. It saves repeating typing the same things over and over again. It also lets you have dynamic mail signatures and lots lots more things. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From klcox1 at cox.net Fri Jun 3 16:54:41 2011 From: klcox1 at cox.net (Karin Cox) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:54:41 -0700 Subject: Chronicle & Mac Gourmet deluxe Message-ID: <585FA517-83E2-4CFC-8DCC-75D47FDCF818@cox.net> Hello List, Is anyone on the list using Chronicle, a financial pkg for the mac? I purchased it from the app store, and so far, I have not been able to figure out how to get started. I would also like to have a program where I can store and add recipes. Any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Karin Cox From nigel.rhodes at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 17:15:47 2011 From: nigel.rhodes at gmail.com (Nigel Rhodes) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:15:47 -0400 Subject: Take Control of Text Expander In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2EE1E72B-075C-471A-B5BA-4E2262264D9F@gmail.com> Lynne and Gordon,I would like to purchase the new take control book, text expander through your service. I'll await your response. On Jun 2, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Just a note to let you know that the brand new Take Control book "Take Control of Text Expander" is available for purchase from here. Priced at just ?1.55 GBP we think this is a bargain. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jun 3 18:29:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:29:40 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Text Expander In-Reply-To: <2EE1E72B-075C-471A-B5BA-4E2262264D9F@gmail.com> References: <2EE1E72B-075C-471A-B5BA-4E2262264D9F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Nigel On 3 Jun 2011, at 17:15, Nigel Rhodes wrote: Lynne and Gordon,I would like to purchase the new take control book, text expander through your service. I'll await your response. This sort of thing should be handled off list. For our records, please get back to us using the support address and we'll take it from there. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 21:31:38 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:31:38 -0700 Subject: mac and admin applications In-Reply-To: <4de8e678.41c6e30a.2d29.5d08@mx.google.com> References: <4de8e678.41c6e30a.2d29.5d08@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4BAD9D89-20DA-44EA-AC17-FFBF07EED4F1@gmail.com> IWork might help. open office is good but it is a bit clunky in my opinion. but it will work. Thoughts? Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 3, 2011, at 7:00 AM, michael weaver wrote: > i do voluntary work at a hospice and use their volunteer co ordinators computer. > however we had to disable windoweyes when i was trying to use it with speech and braille due to the computer being very slow and even for a sighted person it was slow even not running speech software. > my boss has just got a new computer. > however i am possibly thinking of taking in my mac as a backup in case we continue to have problems with the windows pc. > what software would you recommend for admin work which is compatable with microsoft office etc? > would something like openoffice for the mac be sufficient? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jun 3 21:42:46 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:42:46 +0100 Subject: mac and admin applications In-Reply-To: <4BAD9D89-20DA-44EA-AC17-FFBF07EED4F1@gmail.com> References: <4de8e678.41c6e30a.2d29.5d08@mx.google.com> <4BAD9D89-20DA-44EA-AC17-FFBF07EED4F1@gmail.com> Message-ID: Pages - the IWorks Word Processor is fantastic, but Numbers, the spreadsheet needs a lot of work. Not just in terms of VoiceOver either, there are some very basic functions missing from the app generally. Keynote, the presentation app is also very usable, although you cannot read your slides with voiceover when you want to review them in the "Slide Show" mode. You need to export to PDF. For spreadsheet work, Tables might be a good bet. It is very accessible I believe. TC :) James On 3 Jun 2011, at 21:31, Sarah Alawami wrote: > IWork might help. open office is good but it is a bit clunky in my opinion. but it will work. Thoughts? > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 3, 2011, at 7:00 AM, michael weaver wrote: > >> i do voluntary work at a hospice and use their volunteer co ordinators computer. >> however we had to disable windoweyes when i was trying to use it with speech and braille due to the computer being very slow and even for a sighted person it was slow even not running speech software. >> my boss has just got a new computer. >> however i am possibly thinking of taking in my mac as a backup in case we continue to have problems with the windows pc. >> what software would you recommend for admin work which is compatable with microsoft office etc? >> would something like openoffice for the mac be sufficient? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Jun 3 21:53:23 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:53:23 -1000 Subject: TextExpander Touch and Prizmo OCR apps for iOS devices on sale Message-ID: <50C0FB07-9135-4DA6-8AE8-E986527BB618@mac.com> Hi All, The mentions of the new TextExpander Take Control guide remind me that the TextExpander Touch app for the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad is on sale (for an unknown time, but probably not beyond the weekend) at $1.99 (60% reduction) down from the normal price of $4.99. This is the first time the price has dropped from the standard list price in 10 months. Although, unlike the TextExpander app on the Mac, you can only use TextExpander in apps that were written to support it, this includes most serious note-taking and twitter apps on iOS devices. If you also have TextExpander on the Mac, you can sync your snippet definitions. This app is particularly useful for minimizing typing key strokes on the iPhone, and for entering text in languages that routinely use accented characters. I posted a link and description at the AppleVis site, but you can get TextExpander for the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad from the App Store at this URL: ? TextExpander ($1.99 for limited time, usually $4.99) by SmileOnMyMac http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/textexpander/id326180690?mt=8 The other notable app is the Prizmo scanning and OCR app for the iPhone, which is on sale this week for 70% off ($2.99 down from list price of $9.99 -- the first time they've dropped the price this low since the app was released). Prizmo will OCR in 10 languages. Actually, all of Creaceed's products are on sale this week, so I might try their Prizmo OCR app for the Mac. While OCR is still challenging on the iPhone, a number of users have reported good results with this app on the iPhone 4, and on the iPhone 3GS (which has a lower resolution camera). ? Prizmo ($2.99 Founder's week sale, 70% off; normally $9.99) by Creaceed http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/prizmo/id366791896?mt=8 Cheers, Esther From n0oxy at charter.net Fri Jun 3 22:13:40 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 17:13:40 -0400 Subject: Resetting password on the mac, please help Message-ID: <20110603211340.20261.26542@ip-10-203-66-216.ec2.internal> You can reset the password by booting the mac from the system restore DVD. Once booted, press command F5 to start voiceover if needed, select utilities and choose the option to reset your password. Select your hard drive and the account in question. You can then enter a new password, or leave it blank if a password is not desired. Original message: > Hi folks, > Trying to install quicktime from my installation apple disk, it is prompting > me for my password, which I don't remember! > I am the only one using this mac at the moment. > Does anyone know how to get this problem solved? > Thanks very much. > Hatch. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to > the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Fri Jun 3 22:21:12 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Dennis Freedman) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:21:12 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Text Expander In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FDC5BFE-567E-4398-AE07-0ACEBACCDDB1@thejazzden.org.uk> Hi Lynne and other listers I don't (yet) use TextExpander but wonder if anyone uses the app for the IPhone or has comments about this? I do find AutoCorrect sometimes annoying but wonder if the TextExpander app would serve a useful purpose in cutting down on input from the virtual keyboard. Apologies if this should start a new subject line... On 2 Jun 2011, at 20:23, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Just a note to let you know that the brand new Take Control book "Take Control of Text Expander" is available for purchase from here. Priced at just ?1.55 GBP we think this is a bargain. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jun 3 22:21:29 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:21:29 -0300 Subject: MoveAddict question Message-ID: <70624B8F4AC649CDA41AF5AF8D527339@MainComputer> Hi folks: For some reason, I am having problems with the process of configuring MoveAddict: 1. Every time I run the MoveAddict Preferences app, I am asked to register. 2. I am trying to edit the shortcut keys to cut and paste; however, I am not able to enter that data. Any help would be appreciated all over the place. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6178 (20110603) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 22:24:45 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:24:45 -0700 Subject: Take Control of Text Expander In-Reply-To: <4FDC5BFE-567E-4398-AE07-0ACEBACCDDB1@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <4FDC5BFE-567E-4398-AE07-0ACEBACCDDB1@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <25B62FC6-99EB-494D-BEF8-5B61F1687341@gmail.com> I've seen uses for it on the iphone. Corry McMan I think tha'ts his name did a podcast on it and it was amazing. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 3, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Dennis Freedman wrote: > Hi Lynne and other listers > I don't (yet) use TextExpander but wonder if anyone uses the app for the IPhone or has comments about this? I do find AutoCorrect sometimes annoying but wonder if the TextExpander app would serve a useful purpose in cutting down on input from the virtual keyboard. > Apologies if this should start a new subject line... > > On 2 Jun 2011, at 20:23, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> Just a note to let you know that the brand new Take Control book "Take Control of Text Expander" is available for purchase from here. Priced at just ?1.55 GBP we think this is a bargain. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jun 3 22:47:41 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:47:41 -0300 Subject: MoveAddict question In-Reply-To: <70624B8F4AC649CDA41AF5AF8D527339@MainComputer> References: <70624B8F4AC649CDA41AF5AF8D527339@MainComputer> Message-ID: <013D1A97FB864F0DABF37436560D10F0@MainComputer> Hi Again folks: I solved my problem by turning on the mouse keys. Thanks gang. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Noseworthy" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 6:21 PM Subject: MoveAddict question > Hi folks: > > For some reason, I am having problems with the process of configuring > MoveAddict: > > 1. Every time I run the MoveAddict Preferences app, I am asked to > register. > > 2. I am trying to edit the shortcut keys to cut and paste; however, I am > not able to enter that data. > > Any help would be appreciated all over the place. > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6178 (20110603) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6178 (20110603) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6178 (20110603) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jun 3 23:44:06 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 19:44:06 -0300 Subject: MoveAddict question. Message-ID: Hi Folks: Is there a way to have MoveAddict run as a service in the background? Thanks all over the place gang. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6178 (20110603) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 00:05:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:05:58 -0700 Subject: MoveAddict question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62D8755B-9CAC-416B-A12B-B0312637101A@gmail.com> YOu migh tbe able to create a workflow and save it as a service but I don't know anythign about automater so can't help there. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Is there a way to have MoveAddict run as a service in the background? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6178 (20110603) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chantelle.griffiths at me.com Sat Jun 4 01:38:35 2011 From: chantelle.griffiths at me.com (Chantelle Griffiths) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 10:38:35 +1000 Subject: Chronicle & Mac Gourmet deluxe In-Reply-To: <585FA517-83E2-4CFC-8DCC-75D47FDCF818@cox.net> References: <585FA517-83E2-4CFC-8DCC-75D47FDCF818@cox.net> Message-ID: <98959226-3031-4E7E-A370-8D1874A9D37C@me.com> Hi Karin, I am having great success with Mac Gourmet Deluxe on the Mac. It is extremely accessible with VO, though when you set up your recipe box it's best to not use the wide screen format. I find that once I've imported or manually entered a recipe, everything appears in an HTML area where each ingredient is a separate line. The only problem VO seems to have is not readinf fractions such as 1/2 or 1/4, but I fixed that by copying an pasting the symbol into the pronunciations tab of the VO utility and making VO speak "quarter of a " or "half a" for Mac Gourmet only. That means it will read 1/2 cup as "half a cup". It has a few foibles when entering ingredients, such as pressing VO space twice on combo boxes and once on edit fields, but once you get used to them it's very quick. The import assistant is amazing and really fast - most of the fields have keystrokes associated with them so, for example, I can select the list of ingredients from a recipe I've chosen to import and press Command 5 and it puts them all into the right field of the assistant. It also does an awesome job of importing recipes from websites and clipping recipes from other documents you have. The only aspect of it that doesn't work well is the relationship manager, which is used to connect recipes and cooking notes together. It's quite a full featured recipe manager though, so if you're looking for something that doesn't have as many features or isn't quite as complicated, I'd perhaps think of other alternatives. Hope that helps. Cheers, Chantelle On 04/06/2011, at 1:54 AM, Karin Cox wrote: > Hello List, > Is anyone on the list using Chronicle, a financial pkg for the mac? I purchased it from the app store, and so far, I have not been able to figure out how to get started. > I would also like to have a program where I can store and add recipes. Any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. > Karin Cox > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lmumford at uga.edu Sat Jun 4 01:40:51 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:40:51 +0000 Subject: scrolling through mail messages In-Reply-To: <746C1754-54B4-4AD2-9A1A-41E6CB1283C9@softcon.com> References: <702DB81C-37F1-41AD-B09A-9E2B2439E013@uga.edu> <746C1754-54B4-4AD2-9A1A-41E6CB1283C9@softcon.com> Message-ID: <08F4AD16-F37D-4566-B9A4-25E7C561ED7C@uga.edu> Thanks very much. I'm not doing gestures yet because I'm still trying to learn the appropriate keyboard combinations first. I followed your directions to make sure I was interacting with the message table first, and pressing the VO-shift-function-left arrow I finally got it right and moved to the top of the list (the right arrow plus VO-shift moved the cursor to the last row) and yes, the columns were different but thanks to your warning this could happen, I wasn't surprised. Can I move in small increments like paging down or up when I'm in the body of a email, I'm reading, or am I limited to the same interactions as you described for keyboard scrolling in the messages list. Thanks, Linda On Jun 3, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > I don't know which keyboard you have on your laptop, but scrolling up/down can be done with just the arrow keys (useful if you want to know subjects, or dates, or authors, or something) or you can use vo/up/down arrows, accomplishes the same thing as just arrow up/down. > However, if you want to go to top/bottom of message list, the keystroke is vo-shift-home or vo-shift-end. > Note that you must be interacting with the message table for this to work, and it will (probably) not stay on the same column you're on when using the keystroke, so you'll need to right/left to reacquire your preferred column, but otherwise, it will move to the top or bottom of the list all at once. Moving in smaller increments (as far as I know) is not supported. > If you're interested in having fewer messages to navigate, try checking the column that says thread messages, then each set of messages with the same subject will take up only a single row in the mail table, and this will reduce the number of entries in the mail table. > hth. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From w9fyi at mac-access.net Sat Jun 4 03:15:55 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 19:15:55 -0700 Subject: anybody heard anything about the bookshare app? Message-ID: <3B877DEE-143A-4276-B744-9F7D9964F6FC@mac-access.net> HI list, Has anybody heard anything anywhere about the bookshare app? So far it seems o be dead in the water, and/or lost somewhere in the app approval process. Also any searches in iTunes for "read2go" have yielded nothing. Just wanted to see if some one has heard something I haven't. Thanks, Justin Mann From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 03:32:20 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 19:32:20 -0700 Subject: anybody heard anything about the bookshare app? In-Reply-To: <3B877DEE-143A-4276-B744-9F7D9964F6FC@mac-access.net> References: <3B877DEE-143A-4276-B744-9F7D9964F6FC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <22E41B86-5F50-4357-8624-B3FCAD58154B@gmail.com> No they sent it to the apple store but I think as you said it got lost on the approval process. and bookshare are not saying anything about it as far as I know. Bookshare are having a conference call on sunday so maybe you might want to ask them about it then. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 3, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Justin Mann wrote: > HI list, > Has anybody heard anything anywhere about the bookshare app? So far it seems o be dead in the water, and/or lost somewhere in the app approval process. Also any searches in iTunes for "read2go" have yielded nothing. Just wanted to see if some one has heard something I haven't. > Thanks, > Justin Mann > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From w9fyi at mac-access.net Sat Jun 4 05:00:11 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:00:11 -0700 Subject: portforwarding on a timecapsule? Message-ID: <194A708C-6AF0-43BE-8753-DAB6257A20BB@mac-access.net> Hi there, Does anybody know how to setup portforwarding on a timecapsule? I'd appreciate any help Justin From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Jun 4 06:14:38 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:14:38 -0500 Subject: anybody heard anything about the bookshare app? In-Reply-To: <3B877DEE-143A-4276-B744-9F7D9964F6FC@mac-access.net> References: <3B877DEE-143A-4276-B744-9F7D9964F6FC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I've heard several rumors one of them being that Apple has not approved it because, in their mind, ibooks is accessible and this app would take away from their 30 percent on each book. It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case. On Jun 3, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Justin Mann wrote: > HI list, > Has anybody heard anything anywhere about the bookshare app? So far it seems o be dead in the water, and/or lost somewhere in the app approval process. Also any searches in iTunes for "read2go" have yielded nothing. Just wanted to see if some one has heard something I haven't. > Thanks, > Justin Mann > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 06:22:22 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:22:22 -0700 Subject: anybody heard anything about the bookshare app? In-Reply-To: References: <3B877DEE-143A-4276-B744-9F7D9964F6FC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5318756D-8C4A-42BE-A41F-7652439467F3@gmail.com> Well, we won't know until we hear from the horse's mouth as the saying goes, that is bookshares so let's wait for a few more months and see what happens. Take care all and be safe. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:14 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > I've heard several rumors one of them being that Apple has not approved it because, in their mind, ibooks is accessible and this app would take away from their 30 percent on each book. It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case. > On Jun 3, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Justin Mann wrote: > >> HI list, >> Has anybody heard anything anywhere about the bookshare app? So far it seems o be dead in the water, and/or lost somewhere in the app approval process. Also any searches in iTunes for "read2go" have yielded nothing. Just wanted to see if some one has heard something I haven't. >> Thanks, >> Justin Mann >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Jun 4 07:35:46 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 07:35:46 +0100 Subject: obtaining i-works Message-ID: <4de9cfbf.013ae30a.2040.76c0@mx.google.com> where do you obtain the i-works apps? do they come on the mac software disk that i got when i purchased my macbook pro in january? From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sat Jun 4 08:15:41 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:15:41 +0200 Subject: obtaining i-works In-Reply-To: <4de9cfbf.013ae30a.2040.76c0@mx.google.com> References: <4de9cfbf.013ae30a.2040.76c0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello Michael, You can get the iWork apps individually from the Mac Appstore. Each one costs around $15 US. Cheers, Anne On 4 Jun 2011, at 08:35, michael weaver wrote: > where do you obtain the i-works apps? > do they come on the mac software disk that i got when i purchased my macbook pro in january? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 09:18:32 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 01:18:32 -0700 Subject: Prosoft releases first Mac App Store-hosted disk utility Message-ID: <6C7BE8C4-5F4D-4FC8-83DD-35AB361A0710@gmail.com> Forgot to include the link. Sorry all, but it's' from the mac world blog if you want to dig it up. Take care all. Prosoft releases first Mac App Store-hosted disk utility A version of Prosoft's flagship disk utility, Drive Genius 3, is now available on the Mac App Store. However, thanks to Apple's Mac App Store restrictions, Drive Genius 3 LE offers a subset of its sibling's features (at a lower price). From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 4 10:14:39 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 19:14:39 +1000 Subject: Truecrypt Message-ID: Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on the Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this tool in detail on the techno-chat list. URL for Truecrypt is From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Sat Jun 4 12:06:46 2011 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (michael) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:06:46 +1000 Subject: Truecrypt References: Message-ID: <6C1F21D8D3F845C1BDF9DCC0D29FE287@toshibauser> Hi dane is this program like a virus program for the mac. I have been asking people if we need one with macs and most say no. cheers Michael. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 7:14 PM Subject: Truecrypt > Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on the > Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this tool in > detail on the techno-chat list. > URL for Truecrypt is > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 4 13:10:26 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:10:26 +1000 Subject: Anti Virus Software was Re: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <6C1F21D8D3F845C1BDF9DCC0D29FE287@toshibauser> References: <6C1F21D8D3F845C1BDF9DCC0D29FE287@toshibauser> Message-ID: <25FD2472-542F-4763-8FC6-0736CB97869C@internode.on.net> No Trucrypt is not a piece of anti virus software, its a piece of security software which encrypts or scrambles data to keep it secured for prying eyes. As to whether you need anti virus software for your Mac? I never say you don't but what I do say is that the risk with a mac of a virus causing you any harm is lower but with a Mac you can still spread viruses just as easily and this is what people tend to overlook when talking about anti virus software and the Mac, the anti virus software can detect the infection thus stopping it spreading any further which could possibly prevent other people from receiving a virus from you. On 04/06/2011, at 9:06 PM, michael wrote: > Hi dane is this program like a virus program for the mac. > I have been asking people if we need one with macs and most say no. > cheers Michael. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 7:14 PM > Subject: Truecrypt > > >> Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on the Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this tool in detail on the techno-chat list. >> URL for Truecrypt is >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Sat Jun 4 13:12:52 2011 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (michael) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:12:52 +1000 Subject: Anti Virus Software was Re: Truecrypt References: <6C1F21D8D3F845C1BDF9DCC0D29FE287@toshibauser> <25FD2472-542F-4763-8FC6-0736CB97869C@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <9927C500BF8B423984BFEEA3084AF2EE@toshibauser> So do you run anti virus program Dane if so what is the best one cheers.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 10:10 PM Subject: Anti Virus Software was Re: Truecrypt > No Trucrypt is not a piece of anti virus software, its a piece of security > software which encrypts or scrambles data to keep it secured for prying > eyes. > > As to whether you need anti virus software for your Mac? I never say you > don't but what I do say is that the risk with a mac of a virus causing you > any harm is lower but with a Mac you can still spread viruses just as > easily and this is what people tend to overlook when talking about anti > virus software and the Mac, the anti virus software can detect the > infection thus stopping it spreading any further which could possibly > prevent other people from receiving a virus from you. > > > On 04/06/2011, at 9:06 PM, michael wrote: > >> Hi dane is this program like a virus program for the mac. >> I have been asking people if we need one with macs and most say no. >> cheers Michael. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >> >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 7:14 PM >> Subject: Truecrypt >> >> >>> Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on >>> the Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this >>> tool in detail on the techno-chat list. >>> URL for Truecrypt is >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From chris at mysticplace.info Sat Jun 4 13:53:57 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:53:57 -0400 Subject: Anti Virus Software was Re: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <25FD2472-542F-4763-8FC6-0736CB97869C@internode.on.net> References: <6C1F21D8D3F845C1BDF9DCC0D29FE287@toshibauser> <25FD2472-542F-4763-8FC6-0736CB97869C@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <20110604085356.64E2.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Funny how Apple just released a security fix to remove variants of mac defender. The days of macs not being hit with viruses etc are over. In my personal opinion, one should install anti virus to protect others as well as yourself. On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:10:26 +1000 Dane Trethowan wrote: > No Trucrypt is not a piece of anti virus software, its a piece of security software which encrypts or scrambles data to keep it secured for prying eyes. > > As to whether you need anti virus software for your Mac? I never say you don't but what I do say is that the risk with a mac of a virus causing you any harm is lower but with a Mac you can still spread viruses just as easily and this is what people tend to overlook when talking about anti virus software and the Mac, the anti virus software can detect the infection thus stopping it spreading any further which could possibly prevent other people from receiving a virus from you. > > > On 04/06/2011, at 9:06 PM, michael wrote: > > > Hi dane is this program like a virus program for the mac. > > I have been asking people if we need one with macs and most say no. > > cheers Michael. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" > > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 7:14 PM > > Subject: Truecrypt > > > > > >> Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on the Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this tool in detail on the techno-chat list. > >> URL for Truecrypt is > >> > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > >> > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From khwicca at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 14:09:20 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:09:20 -0400 Subject: Three Questions Message-ID: <339127C4-0420-467E-8714-22F7CADE4AC5@gmail.com> I asked this one before, but don't remember how to do it and have put off asking it again. How do you select files for action if the files are not contiguous? Second, I have accidentally shared about 8,000 individual files instead of the folder and subfolders these files are in. I have since moved the main folder to another location. How can I delete all of these shares? I'm praying there's an easier way than to do it one at a time. I shall become very old and gray if this is not the case. Finally, how do I share an external drive on the mac? I am missing something. Thanks. Kristeen (frowning in puzzlement) From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jun 4 14:26:23 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:26:23 +0100 Subject: Anti Virus Software was Re: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <20110604085356.64E2.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <6C1F21D8D3F845C1BDF9DCC0D29FE287@toshibauser> <25FD2472-542F-4763-8FC6-0736CB97869C@internode.on.net> <20110604085356.64E2.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <6C354B73-102F-49AD-9A44-C383ACD71086@mac-access.net> At present, Anti-Virus on Mac is misleading. The MacDefender scam is in fact Mail ware, not a virus. The software should be called Anti-Malware. Also, the current update from Apple has apparently ben rendered useless as the developers of the MacDefender scam have found a way around it. The advantage of the new update is that it apparently updates every 24 hours, so we'll see what happens. Only ignorant or arrogant people would say that the Ma is 100% safe and will always be so. Anti-Malware or Anti-Virus if you prefer is available for Mac, but at the moment is perhaps not as necessary as it is for Microsoft Windows. However, as Mac OS X becomes more prevalent, this may change. At least the time has not come yet for developers of such scams to be more creative than they currently are. This new scam seems to play on the naivety of some of our community. As others have said though, we should help others by not passing on viruses and you can find Virus Barrier Express from Intego in the App Store. It will not run in the background, but you can scan files if you are at all suspicious. Its older sibling Virus Barrier 6 I think it is called is a complete product and is the commercial offering from Intego. HTH TC :) James On 4 Jun 2011, at 13:53, Chris G wrote: > Funny how Apple just released a security fix to remove variants of mac > defender. The days of macs not being hit with viruses etc are over. > In my personal opinion, one should install anti virus to protect others > as well as yourself. > > > > On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:10:26 +1000 > Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> No Trucrypt is not a piece of anti virus software, its a piece of security software which encrypts or scrambles data to keep it secured for prying eyes. >> >> As to whether you need anti virus software for your Mac? I never say you don't but what I do say is that the risk with a mac of a virus causing you any harm is lower but with a Mac you can still spread viruses just as easily and this is what people tend to overlook when talking about anti virus software and the Mac, the anti virus software can detect the infection thus stopping it spreading any further which could possibly prevent other people from receiving a virus from you. >> >> >> On 04/06/2011, at 9:06 PM, michael wrote: >> >>> Hi dane is this program like a virus program for the mac. >>> I have been asking people if we need one with macs and most say no. >>> cheers Michael. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 7:14 PM >>> Subject: Truecrypt >>> >>> >>>> Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on the Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this tool in detail on the techno-chat list. >>>> URL for Truecrypt is >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > - > The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. > http://www.mysticplace.info > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jun 4 14:45:17 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:45:17 +0100 Subject: MoveAddict question In-Reply-To: <70624B8F4AC649CDA41AF5AF8D527339@MainComputer> References: <70624B8F4AC649CDA41AF5AF8D527339@MainComputer> Message-ID: <605EFDA4-3E5B-4B58-9265-588BA38ADD3F@mac-access.net> Hello Jim On 3 Jun 2011, at 22:21, Jim Noseworthy wrote: ? 1. Every time I run the MoveAddict Preferences app, I am asked to register. You've probably exceeded your demo period. ? 2. I am trying to edit the shortcut keys to cut and paste; however, I am not able to enter that data. You probably can't until you register if you have exceeded your demo time. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jun 4 14:52:34 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:52:34 +0100 Subject: MoveAddict question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Jim On 3 Jun 2011, at 23:44, Jim Noseworthy wrote: ? Is there a way to have MoveAddict run as a service in the background? Use the accessibility preferences editor and in there you'll find a preference to auto-run at log-in. That is what you need to check. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jun 4 14:53:54 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:53:54 +0100 Subject: MoveAddict question. In-Reply-To: <62D8755B-9CAC-416B-A12B-B0312637101A@gmail.com> References: <62D8755B-9CAC-416B-A12B-B0312637101A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2A82A165-C06A-4994-A974-BFB5A8792091@mac-access.net> Hello Sarah On 4 Jun 2011, at 00:05, Sarah Alawami wrote: ? YOu migh tbe able to create a workflow and save it as a service but I don't know anythign about automater so can't help there. Talk about over-complicating things! :) I guess you've never tried the program? Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jun 4 14:55:35 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:55:35 +0100 Subject: portforwarding on a timecapsule? In-Reply-To: <194A708C-6AF0-43BE-8753-DAB6257A20BB@mac-access.net> References: <194A708C-6AF0-43BE-8753-DAB6257A20BB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Justin On 4 Jun 2011, at 05:00, Justin Mann wrote: Hi there, Does anybody know how to setup portforwarding on a timecapsule? I'd appreciate any help Look under the Advanced tab and then the Port Forwarding tab. Lynne From mike at busboom.at Sat Jun 4 15:03:39 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 16:03:39 +0200 Subject: Voice Over and Low Vision In-Reply-To: <17C5D50F-3F29-43AA-B469-AEECE4956082@softcon.com> References: <71DCD668-D062-4B7E-87D1-002A362531E5@busboom.at> <27C694CC-7A1F-4D58-8AE4-A893B593705D@busboom.at> <17C5D50F-3F29-43AA-B469-AEECE4956082@softcon.com> Message-ID: <3507F944-98A0-45BC-96AC-6640B4EFCB1D@busboom.at> I guess my question could be posed somewhat differently: If I already own a Mac Book and an iPhone, is there any activity that an iPad would make possible that cannot be accomplished with either one of the other two devices, even though it might be more easily accomplished with the iPad? Mike On 3,Jun,2011, at 3:14 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Actually, an iphone, ipod touch, and ipad are targeted at different markets. They're similar to be sure, but each one has it's own particular niche, and certainly doesn't negate any of the other devices. Someone with an iphone may still want an ipod touch, either because the ipod has more memory, or they don't always need the phone portion of the ios. > An ipad is no different, just because you have an ipod touch, or an iphone, doesn't mean you can't use an ipad effectively. It's all based on what you're trying to accomplish, and sometimes, the devices don't overlap on functionality, so it won't hurt to have more than one device. We have ipod touches here, though we are definitely thinking about purchasing an ipad, just because it might be easier for the little ones to use since it has a larger screen. Useless to vi users I know, but it could wind up being that the ipad works better for someone who uses it. Since they're all different, there's no reason *not* to have more than one, though there seems to be a lot of folks who think like you do, and if you have one, they think you don't need another one. > If you have a laptop, do you need a desktop computer? > The answer depends on your needs, same picture here. Some folks can and will use multiple devices, and some won't, but there's no answer that is right for everyone. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Jun 4 15:41:36 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:41:36 +0100 Subject: Anti Virus Software was Re: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <25FD2472-542F-4763-8FC6-0736CB97869C@internode.on.net> References: <6C1F21D8D3F845C1BDF9DCC0D29FE287@toshibauser> <25FD2472-542F-4763-8FC6-0736CB97869C@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <605C630D-6A2C-488A-A5B2-51163578D45D@mac-access.net> Hi Dane & Michael We agree totally with this. That is why we here at Mac Access employ server-side scanning on all inbound and outbound E-Mail. We feel that some people using the Mac aught to be a little more public-spirited, especially those who still use other operating systems as well as Mac OSX. Let me tell you something. On average, we block several hundred thousand messages in an average 24-hour period and quite a number of them are blocked because they contain malicious code, including what people generically term "Viruses". A "Virus" can actually be one of many things and those who think they are safe because they run a Mac are now somewhat mistaken. As Dane rightly says, the risk is lower, but that is the operable term, "lower". Any operating system, including Mac OS X is vulnerable to security attacks, and it's a sad fact of life that the Internet is a haven for people whose deliberate intent is to maliciously interact with other people's computer systems. So, believe you're 100% safe at your peril! People's computer systems, including those which run Unix, LINUX and, potentially, Mac OSX as well are being infiltrated every day. Yours could be next no matter how careful you might think you are. The debate will, I'm sure, continue for a long time to come. Those who believe they are safe because they run Macs on one side, those who prefer to be a little more cautious on the other. Personally, I prefer prevention over cure, and that applies to the computer as well as myself. I have enough problems to battle against just at the moment thank you very much. I'd far rather that our Macs didn't become another problem to deal with and, if that means paying out a few quid to give us peace of mind, than so be it. Now don't get me wrong. This isn't a money thing. I fully appreciate that not everybody has the luxury of being able to afford to spend money on software. I don't want to get into an argument like that because it's quite understandable in these difficult times that some people are feeling the pinch. All I'm saying is that, where possible, I believe that prevention is the best solution. But getting back to TrueCrypt and other security solutions, they can actually be a big help in keeping your data safe. In the upcoming online backup service which we hope to get up and running within days, we strongly recommend people use something like this to protect their data. Gordon On 4 Jun 2011, at 13:10, Dane Trethowan wrote: No Trucrypt is not a piece of anti virus software, its a piece of security software which encrypts or scrambles data to keep it secured for prying eyes. What's the betting that somebody is going to say "that's built into the operating system"? :) As to whether you need anti virus software for your Mac? I never say you don't but what I do say is that the risk with a mac of a virus causing you any harm is lower but with a Mac you can still spread viruses just as easily and this is what people tend to overlook when talking about anti virus software and the Mac, the anti virus software can detect the infection thus stopping it spreading any further which could possibly prevent other people from receiving a virus from you. From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Jun 4 15:44:37 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:44:37 +0100 Subject: Anti Virus Software was Re: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <20110604085356.64E2.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <6C1F21D8D3F845C1BDF9DCC0D29FE287@toshibauser> <25FD2472-542F-4763-8FC6-0736CB97869C@internode.on.net> <20110604085356.64E2.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <18B5003E-8A2B-4BD7-A271-1040D26E0E02@mac-access.net> Hi Chris I absolutely, totally, utterly and completely agree with you. 10 Out of 10 my friend! You've hit the nail right smack bang on the head! Gordon On 4 Jun 2011, at 13:53, Chris G wrote: Funny how Apple just released a security fix to remove variants of mac defender. The days of macs not being hit with viruses etc are over. In my personal opinion, one should install anti virus to protect others as well as yourself. From ian456 at me.com Sat Jun 4 17:14:35 2011 From: ian456 at me.com (Ian Robinson) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:14:35 +0100 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> Hi Dane, I tried True Crypt a couple of months ago and found it usable, but not completely accessible with VoiceOver. I can't remember exactly now, but I think some dialogues were very difficult to use. Also, I couldn't just open a True Crypt volume with the usual Command o, and Finder wouldn't let me associate the files with the application. I'm curious though, would you be copying files to the True Crypt volume manually, or using software to synchronise folders? regards. Ian On 4 Jun 2011, at 10:14, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on the Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this tool in detail on the techno-chat list. > URL for Truecrypt is > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jun 4 17:19:56 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 13:19:56 -0300 Subject: MoveAddict question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lynne: Thanks for your response. I am able to run MoveAddict at login but I want to program to run in the background. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 10:52 AM Subject: Re: MoveAddict question. Hello Jim On 3 Jun 2011, at 23:44, Jim Noseworthy wrote: ? Is there a way to have MoveAddict run as a service in the background? Use the accessibility preferences editor and in there you'll find a preference to auto-run at log-in. That is what you need to check. Lynne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6179 (20110604) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6180 (20110604) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From ian456 at me.com Sat Jun 4 17:34:03 2011 From: ian456 at me.com (Ian Robinson) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:34:03 +0100 Subject: Accessible spreadsheet program for the Mac. In-Reply-To: References: <4B5B725A20BB4403920B3EC5A8E022BB@CNIBnotebook> <385EB669-3695-4529-BDF9-15B0402F453A@softcon.com> <786C8D67-B80C-4303-8923-E8AE978D17AE@softcon.com> <93C186C5-1315-4758-80D0-3155E34F80C3@mac.com> <5A448926-FAA4-409C-8D48-92F697BBC346@me.com> Message-ID: Hi esther, Thanks for the suggestion. I've written to the authors of both Tables and Bean to see if they are likely to include password protection in a future version. Regards. Ian On 31 May 2011, at 14:57, Esther wrote: > Hi Ian, > > On May 30, 2011, at 22:22, Ian Robinson wrote: > >> Hi esther, >> >> Am I right in thinking that Tables can't password protect a spreadsheet? >> >> I took a look at the demo of Tables and couldn't find any way to set a password so ended up buying Numbers. >> >> Cheers. >> >> Ian > > I think that's correct: Tables doesn't have a password protection feature. In Numbers you can check a box in the Document Inspector to require a password to open the document. The developer of Tables, Daniel Schwill, has been pretty responsive to requests, so this would be a reasonable option to ask for. For list members who use the 30-day free trial of Tables, note that there is a checkbox setting in its Preferences (brought up with Command+comma) to use Universal Access compliant editing. This is also described in the Tables Help documentation section on Universal Access for VoiceOver support. > > Cheers, > > Esther > >> On 31 May 2011, at 04:25, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Kevin, >>> >>> For the accessible spreadsheet program on Travis' Softcon page, try this URL: >>> >>> http://www.softcon.com/mac/ >>> >>> Then navigate to the link for the "unix page". You'll find the sc program there. >>> >>> I tend to use the "Tables" software program that Dane mentioned. You can find it at: >>> http://www.x-tables.eu/ >>> >>> This was available before a VoiceOver compatible of Numbers was released, and incorporated the feedback of many VoiceOver users. You may find navigation of the cells in the spreadsheet more intuitive than with Numbers. They also offer an academic discount. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On May 30, 2011, at 16:12, Kevin Fjelsted wrote: >>> >>>> WHen I click on the Unix link on the page to see the spreadsheet program I get a "page not found error". >>>> -Kevin >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oops, didn't notice I wrote the url wrong. >>>>> It's supposed to be >>>>> http://mac.softcon.com >>>>> Could have sworn that's what I wrote, but heck, guess my fingers misbehaved on me. :) > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Jun 4 17:46:08 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:46:08 +0100 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> Message-ID: <5D6B45DC-2806-4256-B8B6-4C6A8BB71D67@hopewell.org.uk> Hello All, I used TrueCrypt for about 10 months to encrypt bank account and similar data on my iMac. The only difficult thing I found for setting it up was the need to randomly move the mouse around to create a seed key - the more random the stronger the encryption. I moved my mouse around but was never sure what happened as a result. One benefit of TrueCrypt is that it is also available on Windows and I used to use it to secure data which I moved from MAC to Windows and vice versa. If you don't need to transfer encrypted data between MAC and Windows then you can use an encrypted virtual disk on your MAC using standard MAC software with no need to install anything else. Go to disk utility and from the toolbar choose new image. Name your virtual disk and change the encryption option from none to your desired encryption strength and when prompted enter the desired encryption password. Disk utility will create a DMG file which you open in Finder in the normal way. When you open this file Finder will prompt you for the password. Once your virtual disk is open you can move folders and files into it via Finder in the normal way. You can share this encrypted virtual disk between different MACs. It is very easy to set up and seems to work pretty well. However it is a MAC only solution. Paul Hopewell From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 17:57:03 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:57:03 -0700 Subject: Anti Virus Software was Re: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <20110604085356.64E2.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <6C1F21D8D3F845C1BDF9DCC0D29FE287@toshibauser> <25FD2472-542F-4763-8FC6-0736CB97869C@internode.on.net> <20110604085356.64E2.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <264B603A-E93E-4CED-9F81-CF2740B86C7A@gmail.com> Yeah and the malware is now masking as real names of real softwares. Ah well. suphos is pretty good. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Chris G wrote: > Funny how Apple just released a security fix to remove variants of mac > defender. The days of macs not being hit with viruses etc are over. > In my personal opinion, one should install anti virus to protect others > as well as yourself. > > > > On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:10:26 +1000 > Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> No Trucrypt is not a piece of anti virus software, its a piece of security software which encrypts or scrambles data to keep it secured for prying eyes. >> >> As to whether you need anti virus software for your Mac? I never say you don't but what I do say is that the risk with a mac of a virus causing you any harm is lower but with a Mac you can still spread viruses just as easily and this is what people tend to overlook when talking about anti virus software and the Mac, the anti virus software can detect the infection thus stopping it spreading any further which could possibly prevent other people from receiving a virus from you. >> >> >> On 04/06/2011, at 9:06 PM, michael wrote: >> >>> Hi dane is this program like a virus program for the mac. >>> I have been asking people if we need one with macs and most say no. >>> cheers Michael. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 7:14 PM >>> Subject: Truecrypt >>> >>> >>>> Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on the Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this tool in detail on the techno-chat list. >>>> URL for Truecrypt is >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > - > The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. > http://www.mysticplace.info > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 18:00:21 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:00:21 -0700 Subject: an encrypted disk via a dmg In-Reply-To: <5D6B45DC-2806-4256-B8B6-4C6A8BB71D67@hopewell.org.uk> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <5D6B45DC-2806-4256-B8B6-4C6A8BB71D67@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <33D56D5E-8161-409B-BD77-DFF90E43F587@gmail.com> but you cannot modify files in it. I've done it, or failed anyway Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello All, > I used TrueCrypt for about 10 months to encrypt bank account and similar data on my iMac. The only difficult thing I found for setting it up was the need to randomly move the mouse around to create a seed key - the more random the stronger the encryption. I moved my mouse around but was never sure what happened as a result. > > One benefit of TrueCrypt is that it is also available on Windows and I used to use it to secure data which I moved from MAC to Windows and vice versa. > > If you don't need to transfer encrypted data between MAC and Windows then you can use an encrypted virtual disk on your MAC using standard MAC software with no need to install anything else. Go to disk utility and from the toolbar choose new image. Name your virtual disk and change the encryption option from none to your desired encryption strength and when prompted enter the desired encryption password. Disk utility will create a DMG file which you open in Finder in the normal way. When you open this file Finder will prompt you for the password. Once your virtual disk is open you can move folders and files into it via Finder in the normal way. You can share this encrypted virtual disk between different MACs. It is very easy to set up and seems to work pretty well. However it is a MAC only solution. > > Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 18:02:10 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:02:10 -0700 Subject: MoveAddict question. In-Reply-To: <2A82A165-C06A-4994-A974-BFB5A8792091@mac-access.net> References: <62D8755B-9CAC-416B-A12B-B0312637101A@gmail.com> <2A82A165-C06A-4994-A974-BFB5A8792091@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <27F5B5FD-A637-4B62-BACD-1941BE30F4C1@gmail.com> Nope I use a sript from www.icanworkthisthing.com. It is a tad slow at starting when you invoke the cmd shift x key, but it works Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > On 4 Jun 2011, at 00:05, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > ? YOu migh tbe able to create a workflow and save it as a service but I don't know anythign about automater so can't help there. > > Talk about over-complicating things! :) I guess you've never tried the program? > > Lynne > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 4 18:28:51 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 03:28:51 +1000 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> Message-ID: <9E51AEE2-A884-4905-B715-15E1F4363FD1@internode.on.net> I'm going to try and use a Truecrypt volume on Dropbox. The installation of Truecrypt on the Imac was a piece of cake, yep a bit fiddly but I've had a lot worse, I'm going to try some further experimentation today. On 05/06/2011, at 2:14 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi Dane, > > I tried True Crypt a couple of months ago and found it usable, but not completely accessible with VoiceOver. I can't remember exactly now, but I think some dialogues were very difficult to use. > > Also, I couldn't just open a True Crypt volume with the usual Command o, and Finder wouldn't let me associate the files with the application. > > I'm curious though, would you be copying files to the True Crypt volume manually, or using software to synchronise folders? > > regards. > > Ian > > On 4 Jun 2011, at 10:14, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on the Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this tool in detail on the techno-chat list. >> URL for Truecrypt is >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 4 18:29:43 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 03:29:43 +1000 Subject: Accessible spreadsheet program for the Mac. In-Reply-To: References: <4B5B725A20BB4403920B3EC5A8E022BB@CNIBnotebook> <385EB669-3695-4529-BDF9-15B0402F453A@softcon.com> <786C8D67-B80C-4303-8923-E8AE978D17AE@softcon.com> <93C186C5-1315-4758-80D0-3155E34F80C3@mac.com> <5A448926-FAA4-409C-8D48-92F697BBC346@me.com> Message-ID: <16582E33-6BC9-4E36-9B61-4EA581F6E30E@internode.on.net> Okay well I didn't read some of this thread but I always thought that Bean was a Word Processing app only? On 05/06/2011, at 2:34 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi esther, > > Thanks for the suggestion. > > I've written to the authors of both Tables and Bean to see if they are likely to include password protection in a future version. > > Regards. > > Ian > > On 31 May 2011, at 14:57, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Ian, >> >> On May 30, 2011, at 22:22, Ian Robinson wrote: >> >>> Hi esther, >>> >>> Am I right in thinking that Tables can't password protect a spreadsheet? >>> >>> I took a look at the demo of Tables and couldn't find any way to set a password so ended up buying Numbers. >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> Ian >> >> I think that's correct: Tables doesn't have a password protection feature. In Numbers you can check a box in the Document Inspector to require a password to open the document. The developer of Tables, Daniel Schwill, has been pretty responsive to requests, so this would be a reasonable option to ask for. For list members who use the 30-day free trial of Tables, note that there is a checkbox setting in its Preferences (brought up with Command+comma) to use Universal Access compliant editing. This is also described in the Tables Help documentation section on Universal Access for VoiceOver support. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >>> On 31 May 2011, at 04:25, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Kevin, >>>> >>>> For the accessible spreadsheet program on Travis' Softcon page, try this URL: >>>> >>>> http://www.softcon.com/mac/ >>>> >>>> Then navigate to the link for the "unix page". You'll find the sc program there. >>>> >>>> I tend to use the "Tables" software program that Dane mentioned. You can find it at: >>>> http://www.x-tables.eu/ >>>> >>>> This was available before a VoiceOver compatible of Numbers was released, and incorporated the feedback of many VoiceOver users. You may find navigation of the cells in the spreadsheet more intuitive than with Numbers. They also offer an academic discount. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2011, at 16:12, Kevin Fjelsted wrote: >>>> >>>>> WHen I click on the Unix link on the page to see the spreadsheet program I get a "page not found error". >>>>> -Kevin >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oops, didn't notice I wrote the url wrong. >>>>>> It's supposed to be >>>>>> http://mac.softcon.com >>>>>> Could have sworn that's what I wrote, but heck, guess my fingers misbehaved on me. :) >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ian456 at me.com Sat Jun 4 18:32:08 2011 From: ian456 at me.com (Ian Robinson) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 18:32:08 +0100 Subject: an encrypted disk via a dmg In-Reply-To: <33D56D5E-8161-409B-BD77-DFF90E43F587@gmail.com> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <5D6B45DC-2806-4256-B8B6-4C6A8BB71D67@hopewell.org.uk> <33D56D5E-8161-409B-BD77-DFF90E43F587@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4272B405-55D7-4E8B-AA87-16E272093E2A@me.com> Hi Sarah, That's strange. I've used an encrypted disk image with several rtf and txt files and could edit them without any problems with Textedit. I'm trying to recall whether, when the disk image is created, there is an option to set it as read only or read/write. Regards. Ian On 4 Jun 2011, at 18:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: > but you cannot modify files in it. I've done it, or failed anyway > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello All, >> I used TrueCrypt for about 10 months to encrypt bank account and similar data on my iMac. The only difficult thing I found for setting it up was the need to randomly move the mouse around to create a seed key - the more random the stronger the encryption. I moved my mouse around but was never sure what happened as a result. >> >> One benefit of TrueCrypt is that it is also available on Windows and I used to use it to secure data which I moved from MAC to Windows and vice versa. >> >> If you don't need to transfer encrypted data between MAC and Windows then you can use an encrypted virtual disk on your MAC using standard MAC software with no need to install anything else. Go to disk utility and from the toolbar choose new image. Name your virtual disk and change the encryption option from none to your desired encryption strength and when prompted enter the desired encryption password. Disk utility will create a DMG file which you open in Finder in the normal way. When you open this file Finder will prompt you for the password. Once your virtual disk is open you can move folders and files into it via Finder in the normal way. You can share this encrypted virtual disk between different MACs. It is very easy to set up and seems to work pretty well. However it is a MAC only solution. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ian456 at me.com Sat Jun 4 18:36:30 2011 From: ian456 at me.com (Ian Robinson) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 18:36:30 +0100 Subject: Encrypting Docs and Spreadsheets, was Accessible spreadsheet program for the Mac. In-Reply-To: <16582E33-6BC9-4E36-9B61-4EA581F6E30E@internode.on.net> References: <4B5B725A20BB4403920B3EC5A8E022BB@CNIBnotebook> <385EB669-3695-4529-BDF9-15B0402F453A@softcon.com> <786C8D67-B80C-4303-8923-E8AE978D17AE@softcon.com> <93C186C5-1315-4758-80D0-3155E34F80C3@mac.com> <5A448926-FAA4-409C-8D48-92F697BBC346@me.com> <16582E33-6BC9-4E36-9B61-4EA581F6E30E@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <1D3C6B7A-357D-47A7-B3B7-9E65606F466F@me.com> Hi Dane, Yes, Bean is a word processing programme. Esther suggested contacting the developer of Tables about encryption so I thought I'd do the same for Bean. If Tables and Bean could password protect files, I wouldn't have bothered buying Numbers and Pages. Cheers. Ian On 4 Jun 2011, at 18:29, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Okay well I didn't read some of this thread but I always thought that Bean was a Word Processing app only? > > > On 05/06/2011, at 2:34 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: > >> Hi esther, >> >> Thanks for the suggestion. >> >> I've written to the authors of both Tables and Bean to see if they are likely to include password protection in a future version. >> >> Regards. >> >> Ian >> >> On 31 May 2011, at 14:57, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Ian, >>> >>> On May 30, 2011, at 22:22, Ian Robinson wrote: >>> >>>> Hi esther, >>>> >>>> Am I right in thinking that Tables can't password protect a spreadsheet? >>>> >>>> I took a look at the demo of Tables and couldn't find any way to set a password so ended up buying Numbers. >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> Ian >>> >>> I think that's correct: Tables doesn't have a password protection feature. In Numbers you can check a box in the Document Inspector to require a password to open the document. The developer of Tables, Daniel Schwill, has been pretty responsive to requests, so this would be a reasonable option to ask for. For list members who use the 30-day free trial of Tables, note that there is a checkbox setting in its Preferences (brought up with Command+comma) to use Universal Access compliant editing. This is also described in the Tables Help documentation section on Universal Access for VoiceOver support. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>>> On 31 May 2011, at 04:25, Esther wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Kevin, >>>>> >>>>> For the accessible spreadsheet program on Travis' Softcon page, try this URL: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.softcon.com/mac/ >>>>> >>>>> Then navigate to the link for the "unix page". You'll find the sc program there. >>>>> >>>>> I tend to use the "Tables" software program that Dane mentioned. You can find it at: >>>>> http://www.x-tables.eu/ >>>>> >>>>> This was available before a VoiceOver compatible of Numbers was released, and incorporated the feedback of many VoiceOver users. You may find navigation of the cells in the spreadsheet more intuitive than with Numbers. They also offer an academic discount. >>>>> >>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Esther >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2011, at 16:12, Kevin Fjelsted wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> WHen I click on the Unix link on the page to see the spreadsheet program I get a "page not found error". >>>>>> -Kevin >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 30, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oops, didn't notice I wrote the url wrong. >>>>>>> It's supposed to be >>>>>>> http://mac.softcon.com >>>>>>> Could have sworn that's what I wrote, but heck, guess my fingers misbehaved on me. :) >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 4 18:39:38 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 03:39:38 +1000 Subject: an encrypted disk via a dmg In-Reply-To: <4272B405-55D7-4E8B-AA87-16E272093E2A@me.com> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <5D6B45DC-2806-4256-B8B6-4C6A8BB71D67@hopewell.org.uk> <33D56D5E-8161-409B-BD77-DFF90E43F587@gmail.com> <4272B405-55D7-4E8B-AA87-16E272093E2A@me.com> Message-ID: <6CF8B3A7-DFAE-47B8-A06F-F65CCE5E2602@internode.on.net> I bypassed all that before I had the need to encrypt files between machines on the network of different kinds hence me writing about Truecrypt, I used Knox for my security tasks on my Macs. On 05/06/2011, at 3:32 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > That's strange. I've used an encrypted disk image with several rtf and txt files and could edit them without any problems with Textedit. > > I'm trying to recall whether, when the disk image is created, there is an option to set it as read only or read/write. > > Regards. > > Ian > > On 4 Jun 2011, at 18:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> but you cannot modify files in it. I've done it, or failed anyway >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 4, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello All, >>> I used TrueCrypt for about 10 months to encrypt bank account and similar data on my iMac. The only difficult thing I found for setting it up was the need to randomly move the mouse around to create a seed key - the more random the stronger the encryption. I moved my mouse around but was never sure what happened as a result. >>> >>> One benefit of TrueCrypt is that it is also available on Windows and I used to use it to secure data which I moved from MAC to Windows and vice versa. >>> >>> If you don't need to transfer encrypted data between MAC and Windows then you can use an encrypted virtual disk on your MAC using standard MAC software with no need to install anything else. Go to disk utility and from the toolbar choose new image. Name your virtual disk and change the encryption option from none to your desired encryption strength and when prompted enter the desired encryption password. Disk utility will create a DMG file which you open in Finder in the normal way. When you open this file Finder will prompt you for the password. Once your virtual disk is open you can move folders and files into it via Finder in the normal way. You can share this encrypted virtual disk between different MACs. It is very easy to set up and seems to work pretty well. However it is a MAC only solution. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 4 18:41:50 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 03:41:50 +1000 Subject: Encrypting Docs and Spreadsheets, was Accessible spreadsheet program for the Mac. In-Reply-To: <1D3C6B7A-357D-47A7-B3B7-9E65606F466F@me.com> References: <4B5B725A20BB4403920B3EC5A8E022BB@CNIBnotebook> <385EB669-3695-4529-BDF9-15B0402F453A@softcon.com> <786C8D67-B80C-4303-8923-E8AE978D17AE@softcon.com> <93C186C5-1315-4758-80D0-3155E34F80C3@mac.com> <5A448926-FAA4-409C-8D48-92F697BBC346@me.com> <16582E33-6BC9-4E36-9B61-4EA581F6E30E@internode.on.net> <1D3C6B7A-357D-47A7-B3B7-9E65606F466F@me.com> Message-ID: <213F9C78-8C77-426C-81B2-DD1005CA9145@internode.on.net> Thanks for the clarification. There are of course other ways around this rather than having the software such as Tables and the like doing the password protection, I'm lead to understand that password protection of this type can be easily broken so to me the better way to go would be to use something like Knox, if you're just using a Mac and create a virtual encrypted volume to store whatever you like in. On 05/06/2011, at 3:36 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi Dane, > > Yes, Bean is a word processing programme. Esther suggested contacting the developer of Tables about encryption so I thought I'd do the same for Bean. > > If Tables and Bean could password protect files, I wouldn't have bothered buying Numbers and Pages. > > Cheers. > > Ian > > On 4 Jun 2011, at 18:29, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Okay well I didn't read some of this thread but I always thought that Bean was a Word Processing app only? >> >> >> On 05/06/2011, at 2:34 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: >> >>> Hi esther, >>> >>> Thanks for the suggestion. >>> >>> I've written to the authors of both Tables and Bean to see if they are likely to include password protection in a future version. >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> On 31 May 2011, at 14:57, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ian, >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2011, at 22:22, Ian Robinson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi esther, >>>>> >>>>> Am I right in thinking that Tables can't password protect a spreadsheet? >>>>> >>>>> I took a look at the demo of Tables and couldn't find any way to set a password so ended up buying Numbers. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers. >>>>> >>>>> Ian >>>> >>>> I think that's correct: Tables doesn't have a password protection feature. In Numbers you can check a box in the Document Inspector to require a password to open the document. The developer of Tables, Daniel Schwill, has been pretty responsive to requests, so this would be a reasonable option to ask for. For list members who use the 30-day free trial of Tables, note that there is a checkbox setting in its Preferences (brought up with Command+comma) to use Universal Access compliant editing. This is also described in the Tables Help documentation section on Universal Access for VoiceOver support. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>>> On 31 May 2011, at 04:25, Esther wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Kevin, >>>>>> >>>>>> For the accessible spreadsheet program on Travis' Softcon page, try this URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.softcon.com/mac/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Then navigate to the link for the "unix page". You'll find the sc program there. >>>>>> >>>>>> I tend to use the "Tables" software program that Dane mentioned. You can find it at: >>>>>> http://www.x-tables.eu/ >>>>>> >>>>>> This was available before a VoiceOver compatible of Numbers was released, and incorporated the feedback of many VoiceOver users. You may find navigation of the cells in the spreadsheet more intuitive than with Numbers. They also offer an academic discount. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Esther >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 30, 2011, at 16:12, Kevin Fjelsted wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> WHen I click on the Unix link on the page to see the spreadsheet program I get a "page not found error". >>>>>>> -Kevin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 30, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oops, didn't notice I wrote the url wrong. >>>>>>>> It's supposed to be >>>>>>>> http://mac.softcon.com >>>>>>>> Could have sworn that's what I wrote, but heck, guess my fingers misbehaved on me. :) >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jun 4 18:44:32 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:44:32 +0100 Subject: Encrypting Docs and Spreadsheets, was Accessible spreadsheet program for the Mac. In-Reply-To: <213F9C78-8C77-426C-81B2-DD1005CA9145@internode.on.net> References: <4B5B725A20BB4403920B3EC5A8E022BB@CNIBnotebook> <385EB669-3695-4529-BDF9-15B0402F453A@softcon.com> <786C8D67-B80C-4303-8923-E8AE978D17AE@softcon.com> <93C186C5-1315-4758-80D0-3155E34F80C3@mac.com> <5A448926-FAA4-409C-8D48-92F697BBC346@me.com> <16582E33-6BC9-4E36-9B61-4EA581F6E30E@internode.on.net> <1D3C6B7A-357D-47A7-B3B7-9E65606F466F@me.com> <213F9C78-8C77-426C-81B2-DD1005CA9145@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <3C2C884E-2EF5-4ACA-A90C-D35707426B2C@mac-access.net> You can also create these encrypted and protected dmgs with Disk Utility. TC :) James On 4 Jun 2011, at 18:41, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Thanks for the clarification. There are of course other ways around this rather than having the software such as Tables and the like doing the password protection, I'm lead to understand that password protection of this type can be easily broken so to me the better way to go would be to use something like Knox, if you're just using a Mac and create a virtual encrypted volume to store whatever you like in. > > > On 05/06/2011, at 3:36 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: > >> Hi Dane, >> >> Yes, Bean is a word processing programme. Esther suggested contacting the developer of Tables about encryption so I thought I'd do the same for Bean. >> >> If Tables and Bean could password protect files, I wouldn't have bothered buying Numbers and Pages. >> >> Cheers. >> >> Ian >> >> On 4 Jun 2011, at 18:29, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Okay well I didn't read some of this thread but I always thought that Bean was a Word Processing app only? >>> >>> >>> On 05/06/2011, at 2:34 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: >>> >>>> Hi esther, >>>> >>>> Thanks for the suggestion. >>>> >>>> I've written to the authors of both Tables and Bean to see if they are likely to include password protection in a future version. >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> On 31 May 2011, at 14:57, Esther wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ian, >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2011, at 22:22, Ian Robinson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi esther, >>>>>> >>>>>> Am I right in thinking that Tables can't password protect a spreadsheet? >>>>>> >>>>>> I took a look at the demo of Tables and couldn't find any way to set a password so ended up buying Numbers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ian >>>>> >>>>> I think that's correct: Tables doesn't have a password protection feature. In Numbers you can check a box in the Document Inspector to require a password to open the document. The developer of Tables, Daniel Schwill, has been pretty responsive to requests, so this would be a reasonable option to ask for. For list members who use the 30-day free trial of Tables, note that there is a checkbox setting in its Preferences (brought up with Command+comma) to use Universal Access compliant editing. This is also described in the Tables Help documentation section on Universal Access for VoiceOver support. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Esther >>>>> >>>>>> On 31 May 2011, at 04:25, Esther wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Kevin, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For the accessible spreadsheet program on Travis' Softcon page, try this URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.softcon.com/mac/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then navigate to the link for the "unix page". You'll find the sc program there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tend to use the "Tables" software program that Dane mentioned. You can find it at: >>>>>>> http://www.x-tables.eu/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This was available before a VoiceOver compatible of Numbers was released, and incorporated the feedback of many VoiceOver users. You may find navigation of the cells in the spreadsheet more intuitive than with Numbers. They also offer an academic discount. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Esther >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 30, 2011, at 16:12, Kevin Fjelsted wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WHen I click on the Unix link on the page to see the spreadsheet program I get a "page not found error". >>>>>>>> -Kevin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 30, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oops, didn't notice I wrote the url wrong. >>>>>>>>> It's supposed to be >>>>>>>>> http://mac.softcon.com >>>>>>>>> Could have sworn that's what I wrote, but heck, guess my fingers misbehaved on me. :) >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jun 4 18:54:19 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:54:19 +0100 Subject: MoveAddict question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <261FE93C-D973-4398-AD7E-DD2ADE530E31@mac-access.net> Hello Jim On 4 Jun 2011, at 17:19, Jim Noseworthy wrote: ? Thanks for your response. I am able to run MoveAddict at login but I want to program to run in the background. Once it's configured, have it sit in the menu bar and you won't have a problem. It only comes up when you call it by doing a cut and paste. Lynne From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 4 18:59:41 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 03:59:41 +1000 Subject: article: 10 apps you should install FIRST on your iPhone Message-ID: Hi! Thought list members may find this article of interest. A lot of familiar apps in the "Top ten" though I take issue with the author on some of his selections, for example if you're going to use "Dropbox" as the author suggests then why on earth do you need to use another cloud service to store your notes using "Evernote", I have both here and - whilst Evernote has its place - if you have Dropbox and you're just wanting to keep simple notes synchronised across computers and platforms then I would have thought something like Notesy would have been the way to go as it saves notes by default to a folder in your Dropbox. Anyway read on < http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/04/10-apps-you-should-install-first-on-your-iphone/> From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 19:00:55 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:00:55 -0700 Subject: an encrypted disk via a dmg In-Reply-To: <4272B405-55D7-4E8B-AA87-16E272093E2A@me.com> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <5D6B45DC-2806-4256-B8B6-4C6A8BB71D67@hopewell.org.uk> <33D56D5E-8161-409B-BD77-DFF90E43F587@gmail.com> <4272B405-55D7-4E8B-AA87-16E272093E2A@me.com> Message-ID: <52CBFA86-C258-470C-9882-3D5C98A237BD@gmail.com> Hmm I can't remember now. I got rid of it but might try again. Using snl here. Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > That's strange. I've used an encrypted disk image with several rtf and txt files and could edit them without any problems with Textedit. > > I'm trying to recall whether, when the disk image is created, there is an option to set it as read only or read/write. > > Regards. > > Ian > > On 4 Jun 2011, at 18:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> but you cannot modify files in it. I've done it, or failed anyway >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 4, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello All, >>> I used TrueCrypt for about 10 months to encrypt bank account and similar data on my iMac. The only difficult thing I found for setting it up was the need to randomly move the mouse around to create a seed key - the more random the stronger the encryption. I moved my mouse around but was never sure what happened as a result. >>> >>> One benefit of TrueCrypt is that it is also available on Windows and I used to use it to secure data which I moved from MAC to Windows and vice versa. >>> >>> If you don't need to transfer encrypted data between MAC and Windows then you can use an encrypted virtual disk on your MAC using standard MAC software with no need to install anything else. Go to disk utility and from the toolbar choose new image. Name your virtual disk and change the encryption option from none to your desired encryption strength and when prompted enter the desired encryption password. Disk utility will create a DMG file which you open in Finder in the normal way. When you open this file Finder will prompt you for the password. Once your virtual disk is open you can move folders and files into it via Finder in the normal way. You can share this encrypted virtual disk between different MACs. It is very easy to set up and seems to work pretty well. However it is a MAC only solution. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 19:01:44 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:01:44 -0700 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <9E51AEE2-A884-4905-B715-15E1F4363FD1@internode.on.net> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <9E51AEE2-A884-4905-B715-15E1F4363FD1@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <0BDA07B3-0FA2-4355-9971-35FC1A9AF061@gmail.com> I hear though that if you use tm to back up yoru mac and your whole volume is under true cript you cannot go in there and restore 1 file during a reformat. it *must* be the whole volume. True? or not? Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > I'm going to try and use a Truecrypt volume on Dropbox. > > The installation of Truecrypt on the Imac was a piece of cake, yep a bit fiddly but I've had a lot worse, I'm going to try some further experimentation today. > > > On 05/06/2011, at 2:14 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: > >> Hi Dane, >> >> I tried True Crypt a couple of months ago and found it usable, but not completely accessible with VoiceOver. I can't remember exactly now, but I think some dialogues were very difficult to use. >> >> Also, I couldn't just open a True Crypt volume with the usual Command o, and Finder wouldn't let me associate the files with the application. >> >> I'm curious though, would you be copying files to the True Crypt volume manually, or using software to synchronise folders? >> >> regards. >> >> Ian >> >> On 4 Jun 2011, at 10:14, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on the Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this tool in detail on the techno-chat list. >>> URL for Truecrypt is >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 19:02:23 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:02:23 -0700 Subject: article: 10 apps you should install FIRST on your iPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: so does plain txt. I use that app for something else but might do a demo on it later. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Thought list members may find this article of interest. > > A lot of familiar apps in the "Top ten" though I take issue with the author on some of his selections, for example if you're going to use "Dropbox" as the author suggests then why on earth do you need to use another cloud service to store your notes using "Evernote", I have both here and - whilst Evernote has its place - if you have Dropbox and you're just wanting to keep simple notes synchronised across computers and platforms then I would have thought something like Notesy would have been the way to go as it saves notes by default to a folder in your Dropbox. > > Anyway read on < > http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/04/10-apps-you-should-install-first-on-your-iphone/> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 4 19:16:40 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 04:16:40 +1000 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <5D6B45DC-2806-4256-B8B6-4C6A8BB71D67@hopewell.org.uk> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <5D6B45DC-2806-4256-B8B6-4C6A8BB71D67@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi! I moved the mouse around as much as I could, seemed to work anyway, just moved the mouse to the current focus with command-vo-f5 and started moving it around. The next thing I did was to rename my file, I called the Truecrypt volume "Dane's Storage" but it didn't seem to have a file extension, the default extension for Truecrypt volumes is ".tc". Next I tried opening it and as Paul already mentioned, the file wasn't associated with the Truecrypt app for some reason so I manually did this through the dialogue box which popped up. Truecrypt opened the file and when I pressed the "Mount" button with VO I was prompted to enter the password for the volume, I did that and from there on I was able to access and manipulate data on the Dane's Storage volume. That's as far as I've gone on the Mac. From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 4 19:31:39 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 04:31:39 +1000 Subject: Sending SMS messages from Ipad Message-ID: Okay, I have an app which will allow me to send faxes from my Ipad so is there something around that will allow me to send SMS messages? From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 19:45:28 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:45:28 -0700 Subject: Sending SMS messages from Ipad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14D692F0-364C-45CE-9ADA-FD24946B39B2@gmail.com> There's heywire and text plus and some others. Heywire gives me a bit of trouble when trying to set it up but it actually gives you a phone number that phones can text to. Take care.. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Okay, I have an app which will allow me to send faxes from my Ipad so is there something around that will allow me to send SMS messages? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From motten53 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 20:23:42 2011 From: motten53 at gmail.com (Mary Otten) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:23:42 -0700 Subject: anybody heard anything about the bookshare app? In-Reply-To: References: <3B877DEE-143A-4276-B744-9F7D9964F6FC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Mike, I certainly hope the rumor you heard is wrong. That would be discrimination of a most interesting sort, since Apple permits the Kindle and Nook apps, not to mention Kobo and Stanza and probably others I'm not aware of. Plus, BookShare has a lot of stuff IBooks does not have. And IBooks are not completely accessible. I have the books to prove it, where what ought to be plain text is instead in images announced by VO as image, image, image. I certainly appreciate IBooks' accessibility. But I can't believe that even control-obsessed Apple would go so far as to disapprove the BookShare app for the rumored reason. Mary Otten motten53 at gmail.com From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jun 4 20:28:49 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 20:28:49 +0100 Subject: Need somebody game for a test Message-ID: <45642E7D-0AF4-44AF-9C32-E3C6A6EE15F2@mac-access.net> Is anybody game for helping us out with a test please? If so, here's what I need. If not, skip the rest of this message. What we need is somebody to mount our backup demo from the finder. Here is the URL, password and user ID: https://files.tft-bbs.co.uk User ID = demo (all in lower case) Password = backup (all in lower case). I will put a couple of files there so that you know if it's mounted or not. Lynne From lavendar at bell.net Sat Jun 4 20:43:22 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:43:22 -0400 Subject: Sendspace wizard In-Reply-To: <6238D847-897D-40A4-BCC8-FD40D75388C1@gmail.com> References: <6238D847-897D-40A4-BCC8-FD40D75388C1@gmail.com> Message-ID: William, this is very late, but yes, the send space wizzard does work for the mac. it's a bit fiddley for me, but it does work. You do have to go under the menus and enable the extended vo support, though, for best results. hth and also that this isn't redundant. Cait Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net On May 14, 2011, at 7:16 AM, william lomas wrote: > HI does the sendspace wizard work for us on mac OSX? > If so I assume I can see the status of an upload/download? > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From phonerossy at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 21:05:11 2011 From: phonerossy at gmail.com (rossy) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:05:11 +0200 Subject: Need somebody game for a test In-Reply-To: <45642E7D-0AF4-44AF-9C32-E3C6A6EE15F2@mac-access.net> References: <45642E7D-0AF4-44AF-9C32-E3C6A6EE15F2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: hellow lynne , i can enter and see the volume 1 and 2 . i don't understand what do you mean mount your file from the finder ? do i have to download it ? if you wish to know yesterday i made a try with an ecxell file and it opens in ipad as well and then gives me the option to save it to numbers . i think so far your interface is build prety well . and works with mac and iphone \ ipad . Il giorno 04/giu/2011, alle ore 21.28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ha scritto: > Is anybody game for helping us out with a test please? If so, here's what I need. If not, skip the rest of this message. > > What we need is somebody to mount our backup demo from the finder. Here is the URL, password and user ID: > > https://files.tft-bbs.co.uk > User ID = demo (all in lower case) > Password = backup (all in lower case). > > I will put a couple of files there so that you know if it's mounted or not. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 4 21:25:48 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 06:25:48 +1000 Subject: article: 10 apps you should install FIRST on your iPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DEA94CC.6050506@internode.on.net> Its an interesting read, some apps I've never heard of before and I'm always on the lookout for new one's that may prove handy. On 5/06/2011 4:02 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > so does plain txt. I use that app for something else but might do a demo on it later. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Thought list members may find this article of interest. >> >> A lot of familiar apps in the "Top ten" though I take issue with the author on some of his selections, for example if you're going to use "Dropbox" as the author suggests then why on earth do you need to use another cloud service to store your notes using "Evernote", I have both here and - whilst Evernote has its place - if you have Dropbox and you're just wanting to keep simple notes synchronised across computers and platforms then I would have thought something like Notesy would have been the way to go as it saves notes by default to a folder in your Dropbox. >> >> Anyway read on< >> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/04/10-apps-you-should-install-first-on-your-iphone/> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 4 21:27:09 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 06:27:09 +1000 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <0BDA07B3-0FA2-4355-9971-35FC1A9AF061@gmail.com> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <9E51AEE2-A884-4905-B715-15E1F4363FD1@internode.on.net> <0BDA07B3-0FA2-4355-9971-35FC1A9AF061@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DEA951D.2010105@internode.on.net> That's absolute rubbish, I have a TC volume here and I can go in there - mount it - and pull out 1 or fifty files. On 5/06/2011 4:01 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I hear though that if you use tm to back up yoru mac and your whole volume is under true cript you cannot go in there and restore 1 file during a reformat. it *must* be the whole volume. > > True? or not? > > Take care. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> I'm going to try and use a Truecrypt volume on Dropbox. >> >> The installation of Truecrypt on the Imac was a piece of cake, yep a bit fiddly but I've had a lot worse, I'm going to try some further experimentation today. >> >> >> On 05/06/2011, at 2:14 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: >> >>> Hi Dane, >>> >>> I tried True Crypt a couple of months ago and found it usable, but not completely accessible with VoiceOver. I can't remember exactly now, but I think some dialogues were very difficult to use. >>> >>> Also, I couldn't just open a True Crypt volume with the usual Command o, and Finder wouldn't let me associate the files with the application. >>> >>> I'm curious though, would you be copying files to the True Crypt volume manually, or using software to synchronise folders? >>> >>> regards. >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> On 4 Jun 2011, at 10:14, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>>> Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on the Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this tool in detail on the techno-chat list. >>>> URL for Truecrypt is >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 21:27:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 13:27:19 -0700 Subject: article: 10 apps you should install FIRST on your iPhone In-Reply-To: <4DEA94CC.6050506@internode.on.net> References: <4DEA94CC.6050506@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <644F4BFE-539D-46EB-8058-4A47A00339B1@gmail.com> lol! Same here. I'm always trying the new apps. lol! some I've fond useful. some are fun and some can bo by by lol! Take care of yourself. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Its an interesting read, some apps I've never heard of before and I'm always on the lookout for new one's that may prove handy. > > > > On 5/06/2011 4:02 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> so does plain txt. I use that app for something else but might do a demo on it later. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Thought list members may find this article of interest. >>> >>> A lot of familiar apps in the "Top ten" though I take issue with the author on some of his selections, for example if you're going to use "Dropbox" as the author suggests then why on earth do you need to use another cloud service to store your notes using "Evernote", I have both here and - whilst Evernote has its place - if you have Dropbox and you're just wanting to keep simple notes synchronised across computers and platforms then I would have thought something like Notesy would have been the way to go as it saves notes by default to a folder in your Dropbox. >>> >>> Anyway read on< >>> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/04/10-apps-you-should-install-first-on-your-iphone/> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 21:29:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 13:29:56 -0700 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <4DEA951D.2010105@internode.on.net> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <9E51AEE2-A884-4905-B715-15E1F4363FD1@internode.on.net> <0BDA07B3-0FA2-4355-9971-35FC1A9AF061@gmail.com> <4DEA951D.2010105@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <425039CA-0C2F-42F6-B360-5DBE68AEA3FB@gmail.com> I meant from a time machine back up. you cannot choose when doing a time machine back up or something. I'll have to consult my friend who uses truecript. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > That's absolute rubbish, I have a TC volume here and I can go in there - mount it - and pull out 1 or fifty files. > > > > On 5/06/2011 4:01 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> I hear though that if you use tm to back up yoru mac and your whole volume is under true cript you cannot go in there and restore 1 file during a reformat. it *must* be the whole volume. >> >> True? or not? >> >> Take care. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> I'm going to try and use a Truecrypt volume on Dropbox. >>> >>> The installation of Truecrypt on the Imac was a piece of cake, yep a bit fiddly but I've had a lot worse, I'm going to try some further experimentation today. >>> >>> >>> On 05/06/2011, at 2:14 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Dane, >>>> >>>> I tried True Crypt a couple of months ago and found it usable, but not completely accessible with VoiceOver. I can't remember exactly now, but I think some dialogues were very difficult to use. >>>> >>>> Also, I couldn't just open a True Crypt volume with the usual Command o, and Finder wouldn't let me associate the files with the application. >>>> >>>> I'm curious though, would you be copying files to the True Crypt volume manually, or using software to synchronise folders? >>>> >>>> regards. >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> On 4 Jun 2011, at 10:14, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on the Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this tool in detail on the techno-chat list. >>>>> URL for Truecrypt is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Sat Jun 4 22:07:46 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 16:07:46 -0500 Subject: Need somebody game for a test In-Reply-To: <45642E7D-0AF4-44AF-9C32-E3C6A6EE15F2@mac-access.net> References: <45642E7D-0AF4-44AF-9C32-E3C6A6EE15F2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Lynne: As I'm writing, I have the folder mounted and inside the folder contains a folder named prisoner cell block h so it worked. John On Jun 4, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Is anybody game for helping us out with a test please? If so, here's what I need. If not, skip the rest of this message. > > What we need is somebody to mount our backup demo from the finder. Here is the URL, password and user ID: > > https://files.tft-bbs.co.uk > User ID = demo (all in lower case) > Password = backup (all in lower case). > > I will put a couple of files there so that you know if it's mounted or not. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Jun 4 22:20:47 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:20:47 +0100 Subject: Need somebody game for a test In-Reply-To: <45642E7D-0AF4-44AF-9C32-E3C6A6EE15F2@mac-access.net> References: <45642E7D-0AF4-44AF-9C32-E3C6A6EE15F2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, This seems to work OK. I went to the Go menu in the Finder menu bar and selected the Connect to SAerver menu item. I then entered the URL you gave as the server name and on pressing the connect button was prompted for the userid and password. I entered these and presto was connected. Using view by column in Finder (my normal way) I did a couple of right arrow on the URL and saw the files you mention. WOuld you like me to try and upload a file by pasting it into the Finder for the URL? Paul Hopewell From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Jun 4 22:26:36 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 16:26:36 -0500 Subject: anybody heard anything about the bookshare app? In-Reply-To: References: <3B877DEE-143A-4276-B744-9F7D9964F6FC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4343165F-21ED-4B35-A5A0-472FF8CAD801@charter.net> The person I heard this from is quite reliable, this is why the sony reader app was rejected, because the books could not be purchased through in app purchases, thus giving apple their 30 percent piece of the pie. The kindle and audible apps were already available, and apple has not pulled them, but, apparently any future apps, if they offer any kind of subscription, which bookshare does, must use the in app purchase feature so apple gets a portion of it. On Jun 4, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Mike, > I certainly hope the rumor you heard is wrong. That would be discrimination of a most interesting sort, since Apple permits the Kindle and Nook apps, not to mention Kobo and Stanza and probably others I'm not aware of. Plus, BookShare has a lot of stuff IBooks does not have. And IBooks are not completely accessible. I have the books to prove it, where what ought to be plain text is instead in images announced by VO as image, image, image. I certainly appreciate IBooks' accessibility. But I can't believe that even control-obsessed Apple would go so far as to disapprove the BookShare app for the rumored reason. > Mary Otten > motten53 at gmail.com > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 4 22:28:11 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 07:28:11 +1000 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <425039CA-0C2F-42F6-B360-5DBE68AEA3FB@gmail.com> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <9E51AEE2-A884-4905-B715-15E1F4363FD1@internode.on.net> <0BDA07B3-0FA2-4355-9971-35FC1A9AF061@gmail.com> <4DEA951D.2010105@internode.on.net> <425039CA-0C2F-42F6-B360-5DBE68AEA3FB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87D19816-CC7D-4127-A81B-8B850788FC4C@internode.on.net> I really can't see why that wouldn't be any different at all. On 05/06/2011, at 6:29 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I meant from a time machine back up. you cannot choose when doing a time machine back up or something. I'll have to consult my friend who uses truecript. > > Take care. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> That's absolute rubbish, I have a TC volume here and I can go in there - mount it - and pull out 1 or fifty files. >> >> >> >> On 5/06/2011 4:01 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I hear though that if you use tm to back up yoru mac and your whole volume is under true cript you cannot go in there and restore 1 file during a reformat. it *must* be the whole volume. >>> >>> True? or not? >>> >>> Take care. >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>>> I'm going to try and use a Truecrypt volume on Dropbox. >>>> >>>> The installation of Truecrypt on the Imac was a piece of cake, yep a bit fiddly but I've had a lot worse, I'm going to try some further experimentation today. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 05/06/2011, at 2:14 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Dane, >>>>> >>>>> I tried True Crypt a couple of months ago and found it usable, but not completely accessible with VoiceOver. I can't remember exactly now, but I think some dialogues were very difficult to use. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I couldn't just open a True Crypt volume with the usual Command o, and Finder wouldn't let me associate the files with the application. >>>>> >>>>> I'm curious though, would you be copying files to the True Crypt volume manually, or using software to synchronise folders? >>>>> >>>>> regards. >>>>> >>>>> Ian >>>>> >>>>> On 4 Jun 2011, at 10:14, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Truecrypt's an Open Source encryption/security tool, setting it up on the Mac and it seems to be quite accessible, I'll be discussing this tool in detail on the techno-chat list. >>>>>> URL for Truecrypt is >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Jun 4 22:40:39 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:40:39 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Need somebody game for a test References: Message-ID: <643C72C0-505C-4651-BAAC-EEB136F4FEBD@hopewell.org.uk> HI Lynne, After seeing the files I tried to open one of them. This seemed to cause Finder to hang with frequent VoiceOver statements "Finder Busy". If I turned off VoiceOver with COmmand+F5 with the intention of starting it again I could not restart VoiceOver. I had to reboot. Its getting late so will play a bit more tomorrow..... Paul Hopewell Begin forwarded message: > From: Paul Hopewell > Date: 4 June 2011 22:20:47 GMT+01:00 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Need somebody game for a test > Reply-To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > > Hi Lynne, > This seems to work OK. I went to the Go menu in the Finder menu bar and selected the Connect to SAerver menu item. I then entered the URL you gave as the server name and on pressing the connect button was prompted for the userid and password. I entered these and presto was connected. Using view by column in Finder (my normal way) I did a couple of right arrow on the URL and saw the files you mention. > > WOuld you like me to try and upload a file by pasting it into the Finder for the URL? > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 23:19:04 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:19:04 -0400 Subject: Three Questions In-Reply-To: <339127C4-0420-467E-8714-22F7CADE4AC5@gmail.com> References: <339127C4-0420-467E-8714-22F7CADE4AC5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9EEA0C01-7862-412A-89FE-5FC12444D71F@gmail.com> 1. Turn off cursor tracking and hit command option control space to toggle selection on a particular item. 2. If all the items are in a folder, then there is do the following: 2.1 Select folder and hit command-i (get info) 2.2 Click the lock in the bottom right and you might be prompted to enter password for authorization. 2.3 . In the bottom of the get info is permissions and sharing. If the folder is not being shared then click the "add" button on the bottom left and share the folder. 2.4 THis should bring up a list of users and groups to add to the sharing table. 2.5 In the actions button there should be a sub-menu to apply changes to enclosed items. 2.6 select the group you wish to remove permissions for and click remove. I am not 100% sure this will work. You might for example have to share the folder then close get-info and then go back in and share it again. I have used the get-info tab and also the sharing pane in the system preferences to add an external disk to the shares. I believe in the system preference pane, the button labels are confusing. The "adduser" / "remove user" buttons actually add/remove network share locations. And the Add sharepoint / remove sharepoint effect the users table. Jon button toward the right bottom. HThere should be an item to On Jun 4, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I asked this one before, but don't remember how to do it and have put off asking it again. How do you select files for action if the files are not contiguous? > Second, I have accidentally shared about 8,000 individual files instead of the folder and subfolders these files are in. I have since moved the main folder to another location. How can I delete all of these shares? I'm praying there's an easier way than to do it one at a time. I shall become very old and gray if this is not the case. > Finally, how do I share an external drive on the mac? I am missing something. > > Thanks. > > Kristeen (frowning in puzzlement) > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Jun 5 01:21:18 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 01:21:18 +0100 Subject: quicksilver etc Message-ID: <5C734A82-3A08-42FB-AAE5-12C2AA615893@computing.dcu.ie> Hi there, Was over at a friend's house this evening and he was using a couple of nice apps. One was quicksilver, the other Alfred. Has anyone on here tried to use either? D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From opensesame at me.com Sun Jun 5 02:41:06 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 21:41:06 -0400 Subject: Voice Over and Low Vision In-Reply-To: <27C694CC-7A1F-4D58-8AE4-A893B593705D@busboom.at> References: <71DCD668-D062-4B7E-87D1-002A362531E5@busboom.at> <27C694CC-7A1F-4D58-8AE4-A893B593705D@busboom.at> Message-ID: Hi Mike, On Jun 3, 2011, at 2:57 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Before closing, I would like to pose one question: If I read your note correctly, if a person who is blind already owns an iPhone and a Mac, there isn't much need to own an iPad. Am I correct in making this assumption? I can only speak for myself in this regard as I've heard of a number of folks who own macs and iphones and also use their ipads. I think the ipad is a great device and When I first got my ipad I used it a whole lot, but after I got my iphone 4 the ipad slowly started gathering dust. Eventually I found that, for my needs, There is nothing I do on the ipad that I can't also do on the iphone and the iphone also fits in my pocket. Cheers, Bryan From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 5 02:47:04 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 02:47:04 +0100 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <4DEA951D.2010105@internode.on.net> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <9E51AEE2-A884-4905-B715-15E1F4363FD1@internode.on.net> <0BDA07B3-0FA2-4355-9971-35FC1A9AF061@gmail.com> <4DEA951D.2010105@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <300C87B6-4BA2-4398-96D6-EC52D9AAC4C3@mac-access.net> Hello Dane & Sarah On 4 Jun 2011, at 21:27, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? That's absolute rubbish, I have a TC volume here and I can go in there - mount it - and pull out 1 or fifty files. Dane; I think Sarah was referring to Time Machine compatibility. But Sarah, it might be an idea if we stick to personal experiences rather than hearsay which, sadly, often changes in the telling. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 02:50:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:50:29 -0700 Subject: anybody heard anything about the bookshare app? In-Reply-To: References: <3B877DEE-143A-4276-B744-9F7D9964F6FC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2E4CA3A4-A0CE-4B26-B4AB-7CC0D0E4C39E@gmail.com> Well like i said let's wait until we actually hear from bookshare. Not trying to play mod here. just trying to give some sound advice. Relax, it will all work out lol! Take care all and be safe. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Mike, > I certainly hope the rumor you heard is wrong. That would be discrimination of a most interesting sort, since Apple permits the Kindle and Nook apps, not to mention Kobo and Stanza and probably others I'm not aware of. Plus, BookShare has a lot of stuff IBooks does not have. And IBooks are not completely accessible. I have the books to prove it, where what ought to be plain text is instead in images announced by VO as image, image, image. I certainly appreciate IBooks' accessibility. But I can't believe that even control-obsessed Apple would go so far as to disapprove the BookShare app for the rumored reason. > Mary Otten > motten53 at gmail.com > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 02:52:21 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:52:21 -0700 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <300C87B6-4BA2-4398-96D6-EC52D9AAC4C3@mac-access.net> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <9E51AEE2-A884-4905-B715-15E1F4363FD1@internode.on.net> <0BDA07B3-0FA2-4355-9971-35FC1A9AF061@gmail.com> <4DEA951D.2010105@internode.on.net> <300C87B6-4BA2-4398-96D6-EC52D9AAC4C3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: lol. thi was from a friend who uses truecrip on a daily bases. time machine does nto play nice with it. lol! I might still use it though to inceipt a folder if I want to lol1 or was it file vult he was talking about lol! Take care. FYI file vult can be found in system prefs/accounts. Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane & Sarah > > On 4 Jun 2011, at 21:27, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > ? That's absolute rubbish, I have a TC volume here and I can go in there - mount it - and pull out 1 or fifty files. > > Dane; I think Sarah was referring to Time Machine compatibility. But Sarah, it might be an idea if we stick to personal experiences rather than hearsay which, sadly, often changes in the telling. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Sun Jun 5 03:05:09 2011 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (michael) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 12:05:09 +1000 Subject: help with clam av. Message-ID: Hi guys i have got some good points from you about mac anti virus and i want to try the free one clam av and i did install it but every time i went to do a scann it came up with errors.It said close or reopen clam av it installed okay. So can any one help please. regards Michael. From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 5 03:11:04 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 03:11:04 +0100 Subject: Making a file Read-Only Message-ID: <944FB232-46D0-4DE6-BC2C-B1860ED6C991@mac-access.net> Hello everybody is there a way to make a file read-only so that it cannot be deleted, overwritten or modified? Thank you. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 5 03:13:26 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 03:13:26 +0100 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <9E51AEE2-A884-4905-B715-15E1F4363FD1@internode.on.net> <0BDA07B3-0FA2-4355-9971-35FC1A9AF061@gmail.com> <4DEA951D.2010105@internode.on.net> <300C87B6-4BA2-4398-96D6-EC52D9AAC4C3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3B43931B-30FE-4330-8FB0-4A7E08F27FDC@mac-access.net> Hello Sarah On 5 Jun 2011, at 02:52, Sarah Alawami wrote: lol. thi was from a friend who uses truecrip on a daily bases. time machine does nto play nice with it. lol! I might still use it though to inceipt a folder if I want to lol1 or was it file vult he was talking about lol! I don't doubt your word. But what I'm trying to say is that it is often the case that misinformation is inadvertently provided based on misunderstanding. I don't mean to imply any deliberate deception. Lynne From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 03:39:52 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:39:52 -0400 Subject: Making a file Read-Only In-Reply-To: <944FB232-46D0-4DE6-BC2C-B1860ED6C991@mac-access.net> References: <944FB232-46D0-4DE6-BC2C-B1860ED6C991@mac-access.net> Message-ID: One can not unfortunately do all of these directly... In the finder you can hit command-I to bring up general information about a file. In the sharing and permissions area near the bottom is a table where you can set a file as read only. The way UNIX and therefore Macintosh permissions work however, means this file can still be deleted. The Write permission of the directory controls if files can be added or removed from the directory. However their might still be a way around this using "Folder Scripts" Folder scripts are actions that can happen when a folder is asked to be changed. I am fairly confident there is one for controlling deletions. If so this could probably be used to cancel a delete. There is also the slight chance (I did not test) that when an item is deleted but is read only that the trash will prevent it from being completely deleted without acknowledgement. Have a great weekend, Jonathan On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:11 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Is there a way to make a file read-only so that it cannot be deleted, overwritten or modified? > > Thank you. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 5 03:44:43 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 03:44:43 +0100 Subject: Making a file Read-Only In-Reply-To: References: <944FB232-46D0-4DE6-BC2C-B1860ED6C991@mac-access.net> Message-ID: hello Jonathan On 5 Jun 2011, at 03:39, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: ? One can not unfortunately do all of these directly? That's what I thought ? The way UNIX and therefore Macintosh permissions work however, means this file can still be deleted. The Write permission of the directory controls if files can be added or removed from the directory. I presumed it must be something like this; because when I tried it it didn't work. ? However their might still be a way around this using "Folder Scripts" Folder scripts are actions that can happen when a folder is asked to be changed. I am fairly confident there is one for controlling deletions. If so this could probably be used to cancel a delete. There is also the slight chance (I did not test) that when an item is deleted but is read only that the trash will prevent it from being completely deleted without acknowledgement. Way way over my head I'm afraid. I wouldn't know where to start! Perhaps I should start reading the Take Control book on the subject of permissions. Maybe I'd learn a thing or 3. ;-) ? Have a great weekend, What's left of it, you too. Lynne From gunn at tznet.com Sun Jun 5 04:47:31 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:47:31 -0500 Subject: Jack OSX verses Soundflower Message-ID: <4A95852F-1897-4A81-90AB-9B9652B42C57@tznet.com> Hello All: I did purchase Amadeus Pro and I'm curious if anyone has experience using what the subject line says. These are plugins where you can tell Amadeus Pro to record from let's say Skype, Safari ETC. Hope to get some feedback which one is better and how accessible using with VoiceOver and how to configure. Take care, John From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 05:01:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:01:27 -0700 Subject: Jack OSX verses Soundflower In-Reply-To: <4A95852F-1897-4A81-90AB-9B9652B42C57@tznet.com> References: <4A95852F-1897-4A81-90AB-9B9652B42C57@tznet.com> Message-ID: <4DE922BD-F688-49CF-AEB0-6401F64D5C85@gmail.com> I have never used the first plugin but I use sf (sound flower) constently,every day in fact. you don't make any adjustments. you just tell amadeus or what not to go from there, or tell garage band to go from there and rout your mic through there. I did a broadcasting tutorial on that but might turn it in to a youtube presentation at some time when I have the energy as tht onw will be long and I need the time to put it together lol! Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:47 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Hello All: > > I did purchase Amadeus Pro and I'm curious if anyone has experience using what the subject line says. > > These are plugins where you can tell Amadeus Pro to record from let's say Skype, Safari ETC. > > Hope to get some feedback which one is better and how accessible using with VoiceOver and how to configure. > > Take care, > > John > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Sun Jun 5 05:19:11 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:19:11 -0500 Subject: Jack OSX verses Soundflower In-Reply-To: <4DE922BD-F688-49CF-AEB0-6401F64D5C85@gmail.com> References: <4A95852F-1897-4A81-90AB-9B9652B42C57@tznet.com> <4DE922BD-F688-49CF-AEB0-6401F64D5C85@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0DC54047-CF35-40A5-8099-DC79FC154BA4@tznet.com> Sarah: Thanks for the info and if you have a demo of the original, I'd be interested to hear it. Thanks, John On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I have never used the first plugin but I use sf (sound flower) constently,every day in fact. you don't make any adjustments. you just tell amadeus or what not to go from there, or tell garage band to go from there and rout your mic through there. I did a broadcasting tutorial on that but might turn it in to a youtube presentation at some time when I have the energy as tht onw will be long and I need the time to put it together lol! > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:47 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Hello All: >> >> I did purchase Amadeus Pro and I'm curious if anyone has experience using what the subject line says. >> >> These are plugins where you can tell Amadeus Pro to record from let's say Skype, Safari ETC. >> >> Hope to get some feedback which one is better and how accessible using with VoiceOver and how to configure. >> >> Take care, >> >> John >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jun 5 05:48:27 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 14:48:27 +1000 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <300C87B6-4BA2-4398-96D6-EC52D9AAC4C3@mac-access.net> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <9E51AEE2-A884-4905-B715-15E1F4363FD1@internode.on.net> <0BDA07B3-0FA2-4355-9971-35FC1A9AF061@gmail.com> <4DEA951D.2010105@internode.on.net> <300C87B6-4BA2-4398-96D6-EC52D9AAC4C3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <62F27435-4CD5-4304-AD7B-51A2D00DC151@internode.on.net> Okay well even suppose its Time Capsule I fail to see how their could be a problem. Now I grant you, I don't use the Time Capsule for backup but what I do know is that the Truecrypt volume in my case is just like a dmg file, you mount it so I can't see where the problem would be, you just mount it and then manipulate the files as per normal. On 05/06/2011, at 11:47 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane & Sarah > > On 4 Jun 2011, at 21:27, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > ? That's absolute rubbish, I have a TC volume here and I can go in there - mount it - and pull out 1 or fifty files. > > Dane; I think Sarah was referring to Time Machine compatibility. But Sarah, it might be an idea if we stick to personal experiences rather than hearsay which, sadly, often changes in the telling. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Sun Jun 5 06:06:30 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 15:06:30 +1000 Subject: Making a file Read-Only In-Reply-To: <944FB232-46D0-4DE6-BC2C-B1860ED6C991@mac-access.net> References: <944FB232-46D0-4DE6-BC2C-B1860ED6C991@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7AB0FEBC-2402-4A6B-B4B7-17EC663F1BA2@me.com> What about locking said file? Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 05/06/2011, at 12:11 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > is there a way to make a file read-only so that it cannot be deleted, overwritten or modified? > > Thank you. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jun 5 08:23:34 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:23:34 +0100 Subject: help with clam av. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Michael, On 5 Jun 2011, at 03:05, michael wrote: > Hi guys i have got some good points from you about mac anti virus and i > want to try the free one clam av and i did install it but every time i went > to do a scann it came up with errors.It said close or reopen clam av it > installed okay. Firstly, good luck using Clam AV. :) From what I've heard, the app is not very intuitive. I've not tried it myself though so take this with a pinch of salt. Secondly, have you tried Googling the error message? Google is your friend here. Just be careful though as the MacDefender scam targets search engines and allows for legitimate search queries. TC :) James > Hi guys i have got some good points from you about mac anti virus and i > want to try the free one clam av and i did install it but every time i went > to do a scann it came up with errors.It said close or reopen clam av it > installed okay. > So can any one help please. > regards Michael. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 5 10:31:59 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:31:59 +0100 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: <62F27435-4CD5-4304-AD7B-51A2D00DC151@internode.on.net> References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <9E51AEE2-A884-4905-B715-15E1F4363FD1@internode.on.net> <0BDA07B3-0FA2-4355-9971-35FC1A9AF061@gmail.com> <4DEA951D.2010105@internode.on.net> <300C87B6-4BA2-4398-96D6-EC52D9AAC4C3@mac-access.net> <62F27435-4CD5-4304-AD7B-51A2D00DC151@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hello Dane On 5 Jun 2011, at 05:48, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? Okay well even suppose its Time Capsule I fail to see how their could be a problem. Now I grant you, I don't use the Time Capsule for backup but what I do know is that the Truecrypt volume in my case is just like a dmg file, you mount it so I can't see where the problem would be, you just mount it and then manipulate the files as per normal. Who mentioned the "Time Capsule"? Sarah said "Time Machine", not "Time Capsule". Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 5 10:34:25 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:34:25 +0100 Subject: Making a file Read-Only In-Reply-To: <7AB0FEBC-2402-4A6B-B4B7-17EC663F1BA2@me.com> References: <944FB232-46D0-4DE6-BC2C-B1860ED6C991@mac-access.net> <7AB0FEBC-2402-4A6B-B4B7-17EC663F1BA2@me.com> Message-ID: <8099D20C-18D4-4D73-8C4D-03EF1DD85CB8@mac-access.net> Hello Christopher On 5 Jun 2011, at 06:06, Christopher Sims wrote: ? What about locking said file? No, that isn't the same as "Read Only" In other words, protecting it from deletion. Maybe I didn't make myself clear; but what I want to do is have a file that cannot be deleted. Actually Gordon thinks he knows of a way but it isn't an OSX trick. Lynne From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 10:46:02 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:46:02 +0100 Subject: reading table rows and columns Message-ID: hi all how can I sotp voiceover reading columns and rows? i turned it off in verbosity but it sill reading! From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jun 5 11:01:45 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 11:01:45 +0100 Subject: Making a file Read-Only In-Reply-To: <8099D20C-18D4-4D73-8C4D-03EF1DD85CB8@mac-access.net> References: <944FB232-46D0-4DE6-BC2C-B1860ED6C991@mac-access.net> <7AB0FEBC-2402-4A6B-B4B7-17EC663F1BA2@me.com> <8099D20C-18D4-4D73-8C4D-03EF1DD85CB8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <813EC672-1779-4C17-AE9C-4D847F50AB33@mac-access.net> Hello Lynne, On 5 Jun 2011, at 10:34, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: If you like, I can see if there is a UNIX way to do it. I would be surprised if there was not. TC :) James > Hello Christopher > > On 5 Jun 2011, at 06:06, Christopher Sims wrote: > > ? What about locking said file? > > No, that isn't the same as "Read Only" In other words, protecting it from deletion. Maybe I didn't make myself clear; but what I want to do is have a file that cannot be deleted. Actually Gordon thinks he knows of a way but it isn't an OSX trick. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 11:08:37 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 11:08:37 +0100 Subject: sorted table issue Message-ID: Hi all the table issue I found in the web settings of voiceover thanks, WIll From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Sun Jun 5 11:50:31 2011 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (michael) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 20:50:31 +1000 Subject: help with clam av. References: Message-ID: <1BD2910C99C34C7E8E614D3F95E5565F@toshibauser> Thanks for that info James I was just looking for a free virus program at the moment. I run free avast on my windows machine but the mac version is not free i think. If i need to buy one wich is the best at a cheap price. regards Michael. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAMES AUSTIN" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 5:23 PM Subject: Re: help with clam av. > Hello Michael, > On 5 Jun 2011, at 03:05, michael wrote: >> Hi guys i have got some good points from you about mac anti virus and >> i >> want to try the free one clam av and i did install it but every time i >> went >> to do a scann it came up with errors.It said close or reopen clam av it >> installed okay. > Firstly, good luck using Clam AV. :) From what I've heard, the app is not > very intuitive. I've not tried it myself though so take this with a pinch > of salt. > > Secondly, have you tried Googling the error message? Google is your friend > here. Just be careful though as the MacDefender scam targets search > engines and allows for legitimate search queries. > > TC :) > James >> Hi guys i have got some good points from you about mac anti virus and >> i >> want to try the free one clam av and i did install it but every time i >> went >> to do a scann it came up with errors.It said close or reopen clam av it >> installed okay. >> So can any one help please. >> regards Michael. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 11:57:28 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 12:57:28 +0200 Subject: Jack OSX verses Soundflower In-Reply-To: <4DE922BD-F688-49CF-AEB0-6401F64D5C85@gmail.com> References: <4A95852F-1897-4A81-90AB-9B9652B42C57@tznet.com> <4DE922BD-F688-49CF-AEB0-6401F64D5C85@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3EF126CE-A2A6-48E7-A3C2-936C54EBDCD1@gmail.com> Hi Sarah, Again, as I pointed out earlier, the downside of SF is that it's not highly flexible unless you can use the status bar icons, and even so, Jack OS X still wins hands down. Soundflower can take the audio and pass it to another application if that application supports sending it elsewhere in the first place, but otherwise, SF becomes virtually useless. That's the short version. Regards, Nic On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I have never used the first plugin but I use sf (sound flower) constently,every day in fact. you don't make any adjustments. you just tell amadeus or what not to go from there, or tell garage band to go from there and rout your mic through there. I did a broadcasting tutorial on that but might turn it in to a youtube presentation at some time when I have the energy as tht onw will be long and I need the time to put it together lol! > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:47 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Hello All: >> >> I did purchase Amadeus Pro and I'm curious if anyone has experience using what the subject line says. >> >> These are plugins where you can tell Amadeus Pro to record from let's say Skype, Safari ETC. >> >> Hope to get some feedback which one is better and how accessible using with VoiceOver and how to configure. >> >> Take care, >> >> John >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jun 5 12:04:38 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 12:04:38 +0100 Subject: help with clam av. In-Reply-To: <1BD2910C99C34C7E8E614D3F95E5565F@toshibauser> References: <1BD2910C99C34C7E8E614D3F95E5565F@toshibauser> Message-ID: <8A369013-5C00-480F-943A-029424497FFA@mac-access.net> We've not bought one as yet, but you might want to check out Virus Barrier Express from Intego. It is in the App Store, so it would save you searching the net. It is free and offers a subset of features. It is built upon its older sibling Virus Barrier X6. There are others of course and I think one is available from ProtectMac. HTH TC :) James On 5 Jun 2011, at 11:50, michael wrote: > Thanks for that info James I was just looking for a free virus program at the moment. > I run free avast on my windows machine but the mac version is not free i think. > > If i need to buy one wich is the best at a cheap price. > regards Michael. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAMES AUSTIN" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: help with clam av. > > >> Hello Michael, >> On 5 Jun 2011, at 03:05, michael wrote: >>> Hi guys i have got some good points from you about mac anti virus and i >>> want to try the free one clam av and i did install it but every time i went >>> to do a scann it came up with errors.It said close or reopen clam av it >>> installed okay. >> Firstly, good luck using Clam AV. :) From what I've heard, the app is not very intuitive. I've not tried it myself though so take this with a pinch of salt. >> >> Secondly, have you tried Googling the error message? Google is your friend here. Just be careful though as the MacDefender scam targets search engines and allows for legitimate search queries. >> >> TC :) >> James >>> Hi guys i have got some good points from you about mac anti virus and i >>> want to try the free one clam av and i did install it but every time i went >>> to do a scann it came up with errors.It said close or reopen clam av it >>> installed okay. >>> So can any one help please. >>> regards Michael. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jun 5 12:05:58 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:05:58 +1000 Subject: Truecrypt In-Reply-To: References: <7E2AEC17-CA9A-4945-BCBB-0385B1788D64@me.com> <9E51AEE2-A884-4905-B715-15E1F4363FD1@internode.on.net> <0BDA07B3-0FA2-4355-9971-35FC1A9AF061@gmail.com> <4DEA951D.2010105@internode.on.net> <300C87B6-4BA2-4398-96D6-EC52D9AAC4C3@mac-access.net> <62F27435-4CD5-4304-AD7B-51A2D00DC151@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <842B777B-0B37-4163-9DC6-04E99C4E0F48@internode.on.net> Yep sorry, my fault Time Machine I meant. On 05/06/2011, at 7:31 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > On 5 Jun 2011, at 05:48, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > ? Okay well even suppose its Time Capsule I fail to see how their could be a problem. Now I grant you, I don't use the Time Capsule for backup but what I do know is that the Truecrypt volume in my case is just like a dmg file, you mount it so I can't see where the problem would be, you just mount it and then manipulate the files as per normal. > > Who mentioned the "Time Capsule"? Sarah said "Time Machine", not "Time Capsule". > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sun Jun 5 13:23:17 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:23:17 -0400 Subject: Another sendspace question Message-ID: I've asked before, but maybe someone will have an answer. In the sendspace wizard, on a mac, how can I chose a file that has already been uploaded and have an email sent with the sendspace link in it? Perhaps I need to use a mouse to do this? I can't seem to find a way to do it with key strokes. If someone can help, I'd be very grateful. I am on sever groups that share links to things and this is something I do quite often. From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jun 5 13:25:54 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 22:25:54 +1000 Subject: Another sendspace question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <430EE6BC-B295-4F9E-9DD9-EF2D24BE763F@internode.on.net> Use option-r, this takes you to the "Remote Files" table, interact with this. Navigate to the file you wish to email a link to, use command-c to copy the link to the clipboard or use the associated contextual menu item. Write your email and paste the link where required. On 05/06/2011, at 10:23 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > I've asked before, but maybe someone will have an answer. In the sendspace wizard, on a mac, how can I chose a file that has already been uploaded and have an email sent with the sendspace link in it? Perhaps I need to use a mouse to do this? I can't seem to find a way to do it with key strokes. If someone can help, I'd be very grateful. I am on sever groups that share links to things and this is something I do quite often. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sun Jun 5 13:34:41 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:34:41 -0400 Subject: Another sendspace question In-Reply-To: <430EE6BC-B295-4F9E-9DD9-EF2D24BE763F@internode.on.net> References: <430EE6BC-B295-4F9E-9DD9-EF2D24BE763F@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <724F6E39-C5DD-4112-8213-53E4378B34E9@nc.rr.com> Yes. This is what you told me before. However, command r does not take me to the files. They do however show as I tab through the fields. It does not show the links though, just the file names and I can get info about the file size and when it was last downloaded. I cannot copy any of that to the clipboard though. When I try, nothing happens. I believe there were a couple other people who said they use the wizard all the time, so maybe there's another method, or maybe something's wrong with my sendspace set up. Could be something like the mail problem I was having. It can be frustrating being a new user. On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Use option-r, this takes you to the "Remote Files" table, interact with this. > > Navigate to the file you wish to email a link to, use command-c to copy the link to the clipboard or use the associated contextual menu item. > > Write your email and paste the link where required. > > > On 05/06/2011, at 10:23 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > >> I've asked before, but maybe someone will have an answer. In the sendspace wizard, on a mac, how can I chose a file that has already been uploaded and have an email sent with the sendspace link in it? Perhaps I need to use a mouse to do this? I can't seem to find a way to do it with key strokes. If someone can help, I'd be very grateful. I am on sever groups that share links to things and this is something I do quite often. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jun 5 13:41:31 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 13:41:31 +0100 Subject: Another sendspace question In-Reply-To: <724F6E39-C5DD-4112-8213-53E4378B34E9@nc.rr.com> References: <430EE6BC-B295-4F9E-9DD9-EF2D24BE763F@internode.on.net> <724F6E39-C5DD-4112-8213-53E4378B34E9@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <96EB5511-8B3A-49FA-A665-8F3FB7F35117@mac-access.net> Hi Tracey, You need Option+R. You could also try rooting the mouse to the VO cursor after you find the table with VO+Command+F5 TC :) James On 5 Jun 2011, at 13:34, Tracy Duffy wrote: > Yes. This is what you told me before. However, command r does not take me to the files. They do however show as I tab through the fields. It does not show the links though, just the file names and I can get info about the file size and when it was last downloaded. I cannot copy any of that to the clipboard though. When I try, nothing happens. I believe there were a couple other people who said they use the wizard all the time, so maybe there's another method, or maybe something's wrong with my sendspace set up. Could be something like the mail problem I was having. It can be frustrating being a new user. > > On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Use option-r, this takes you to the "Remote Files" table, interact with this. >> >> Navigate to the file you wish to email a link to, use command-c to copy the link to the clipboard or use the associated contextual menu item. >> >> Write your email and paste the link where required. >> >> >> On 05/06/2011, at 10:23 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >>> I've asked before, but maybe someone will have an answer. In the sendspace wizard, on a mac, how can I chose a file that has already been uploaded and have an email sent with the sendspace link in it? Perhaps I need to use a mouse to do this? I can't seem to find a way to do it with key strokes. If someone can help, I'd be very grateful. I am on sever groups that share links to things and this is something I do quite often. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sun Jun 5 13:47:35 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 09:47:35 -0300 Subject: 1Password question. Message-ID: Hi Folks: Is 1Password accessible via Voiceover? Thanks much gang. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6180 (20110604) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From va3ets2000 at me.com Sun Jun 5 13:49:56 2011 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:49:56 -0400 Subject: 1Password question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BE928EF-D087-4E84-AB2C-6414578DE6A8@me.com> Hi Jim, it certainly is now. They've done a great job in implementing VO support now. WHen I tried it probably back 5 or 6 months ago, it had a lot of unknowns and I found it difficult to use. IT's way, way better now. So I'd recommend giving it a try. On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Is 1Password accessible via Voiceover? > > Thanks much gang. > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6180 (20110604) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jun 5 14:45:54 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 23:45:54 +1000 Subject: Another sendspace question In-Reply-To: <724F6E39-C5DD-4112-8213-53E4378B34E9@nc.rr.com> References: <430EE6BC-B295-4F9E-9DD9-EF2D24BE763F@internode.on.net> <724F6E39-C5DD-4112-8213-53E4378B34E9@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <4DEB8892.7000602@internode.on.net> Option-R. On 5/06/2011 10:34 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > Yes. This is what you told me before. However, command r does not take me to the files. They do however show as I tab through the fields. It does not show the links though, just the file names and I can get info about the file size and when it was last downloaded. I cannot copy any of that to the clipboard though. When I try, nothing happens. I believe there were a couple other people who said they use the wizard all the time, so maybe there's another method, or maybe something's wrong with my sendspace set up. Could be something like the mail problem I was having. It can be frustrating being a new user. > > On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Use option-r, this takes you to the "Remote Files" table, interact with this. >> >> Navigate to the file you wish to email a link to, use command-c to copy the link to the clipboard or use the associated contextual menu item. >> >> Write your email and paste the link where required. >> >> >> On 05/06/2011, at 10:23 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >>> I've asked before, but maybe someone will have an answer. In the sendspace wizard, on a mac, how can I chose a file that has already been uploaded and have an email sent with the sendspace link in it? Perhaps I need to use a mouse to do this? I can't seem to find a way to do it with key strokes. If someone can help, I'd be very grateful. I am on sever groups that share links to things and this is something I do quite often. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jun 5 14:46:51 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 23:46:51 +1000 Subject: 1Password question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DEB88CB.9000007@internode.on.net> Very much accessible thanks to feedback between users and developers , highly recommended. On 5/06/2011 10:47 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Is 1Password accessible via Voiceover? > > Thanks much gang. > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6180 (20110604) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jun 5 14:47:13 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 23:47:13 +1000 Subject: 1Password question. In-Reply-To: <1BE928EF-D087-4E84-AB2C-6414578DE6A8@me.com> References: <1BE928EF-D087-4E84-AB2C-6414578DE6A8@me.com> Message-ID: <4DEB88E1.5040604@internode.on.net> That's all changed. On 5/06/2011 10:49 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Hi Jim, it certainly is now. They've done a great job in implementing VO support now. WHen I tried it probably back 5 or 6 months ago, it had a lot of unknowns and I found it difficult to use. IT's way, way better now. So I'd recommend giving it a try. > On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> Is 1Password accessible via Voiceover? >> >> Thanks much gang. >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6180 (20110604) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Sun Jun 5 15:01:22 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 10:01:22 -0400 Subject: 1Password question. In-Reply-To: <1BE928EF-D087-4E84-AB2C-6414578DE6A8@me.com> References: <1BE928EF-D087-4E84-AB2C-6414578DE6A8@me.com> Message-ID: <0LMB00JTELMCYKX5@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Folks! Missed part of this thread. What is 1password? Is it for the iPhone or the Mac? Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao At 08:49 AM 6/5/2011, you wrote: >Hi Jim, it certainly is now. They've done a great job in >implementing VO support now. WHen I tried it probably back 5 or 6 >months ago, it had a lot of unknowns and I found it difficult to >use. IT's way, way better now. So I'd recommend giving it a try. >On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > > > Hi Folks: > > > > Is 1Password accessible via Voiceover? > > > > Thanks much gang. > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of > virus signature database 6180 (20110604) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >signature database 6180 (20110604) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Jun 5 15:16:41 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 09:16:41 -0500 Subject: Making a file Read-Only In-Reply-To: <944FB232-46D0-4DE6-BC2C-B1860ED6C991@mac-access.net> References: <944FB232-46D0-4DE6-BC2C-B1860ED6C991@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9F8CC710-5AA3-41C0-BBB1-2F268746044A@softcon.com> Certainly. Although, it may not protect it from deletion on osx, it will at the very least prompt you for a password first. In terminal, use the chown command to change the ownership of the file to root chown file root Then for additional protection, (assuming you don't want regular users to be able to read the file) use chmod to modify the permissions to prevent reading chmod 700 file That will make th file owned by root (not the user who created it) and osx will not allow a regular user to delete the file. It may bring up the password prompt depending on how osx is configured to respond to such things, but at least then, you'll know it's something that needs additional attention before performing the deletion. hth From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jun 5 15:20:42 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 00:20:42 +1000 Subject: 1Password question. In-Reply-To: <0LMB00JTELMCYKX5@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> References: <1BE928EF-D087-4E84-AB2C-6414578DE6A8@me.com> <0LMB00JTELMCYKX5@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: 1 Password is a Password manager and More it now can be used on multiple platforms including IOS devices, Mac, Windows etc. The idea is that you access your password collection or any other private data such as credit card information, serial numbers, software licence keys etc with one password and the software revolves around this. For example, you can set 1 Password to log into your favourite web sites, fill out credit card details for you amongst other things. Actually just to correct a previous message from me on this topic, 1 Password has always ben accessible to a point on a Mac but you had to do some reading of the tutorial to find out what all the different panels, buttons and tables did. Now more buttons are labelled and more of the software has been clearly defined, the developers made good on their promise to do this. On 06/06/2011, at 12:01 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks! Missed part of this thread. What is 1password? Is it for the iPhone or the Mac? Thanks in advance. > > Matthew Chao > > At 08:49 AM 6/5/2011, you wrote: >> Hi Jim, it certainly is now. They've done a great job in implementing VO support now. WHen I tried it probably back 5 or 6 months ago, it had a lot of unknowns and I found it difficult to use. IT's way, way better now. So I'd recommend giving it a try. >> On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >> > Hi Folks: >> > >> > Is 1Password accessible via Voiceover? >> > >> > Thanks much gang. >> > >> > >> > >> > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6180 (20110604) __________ >> > >> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> > >> > http://www.eset.com >> > >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> > >> > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> > >> > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6180 (20110604) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Jun 5 15:53:07 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 15:53:07 +0100 Subject: a wifi question Message-ID: <4deb95ca.41c6e30a.12f4.ffffabe1@mx.google.com> i have a wifi question about the i-phone and maybe the mac as well. why is my network being switched from the default one i use which is my home router? i have a bt homehub wifi router and have set my wep key but for some reason when i have been out of my house, when i return it seems to switch to someone else's router because when i check my wireless nettwork under settings i see bt openzone. is this supposed to happen ie are wireless networks prioritised somehow ie an openzone network prioritised above a home network when wireless networks are being accessed? i thought that the router it would try to access first would be my home network with it being the nearest wifi network in range. i am wondering if this isn't just something which maybe affects just the i-phone but also my macbook as well as i think i might have had this switching while trying to access my parents wifi connection and it came up with a list of other networks and insisted i still typed a wep key for my parents router even though i have entered the key already recently. From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sun Jun 5 17:30:42 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 12:30:42 -0400 Subject: Another sendspace question In-Reply-To: <4DEB8892.7000602@internode.on.net> References: <430EE6BC-B295-4F9E-9DD9-EF2D24BE763F@internode.on.net> <724F6E39-C5DD-4112-8213-53E4378B34E9@nc.rr.com> <4DEB8892.7000602@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <277C60E5-295C-4141-AB8F-4CCC06AE1BBE@nc.rr.com> Sorry. That was a mistype on my part. I did mean option r. What happens is when I do that, it says remote view, but even when I interact, it shows no files. Yet I can tab through the fields and find the list of files that have been uploaded right there and can arrow up and down through them. Why do these weird things happen to me? LOL! Anyway, I tried again to copy as was suggested and it put nothing on the clipboard. On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Option-R. > > > > On 5/06/2011 10:34 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> Yes. This is what you told me before. However, command r does not take me to the files. They do however show as I tab through the fields. It does not show the links though, just the file names and I can get info about the file size and when it was last downloaded. I cannot copy any of that to the clipboard though. When I try, nothing happens. I believe there were a couple other people who said they use the wizard all the time, so maybe there's another method, or maybe something's wrong with my sendspace set up. Could be something like the mail problem I was having. It can be frustrating being a new user. >> >> On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Use option-r, this takes you to the "Remote Files" table, interact with this. >>> >>> Navigate to the file you wish to email a link to, use command-c to copy the link to the clipboard or use the associated contextual menu item. >>> >>> Write your email and paste the link where required. >>> >>> >>> On 05/06/2011, at 10:23 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>> >>>> I've asked before, but maybe someone will have an answer. In the sendspace wizard, on a mac, how can I chose a file that has already been uploaded and have an email sent with the sendspace link in it? Perhaps I need to use a mouse to do this? I can't seem to find a way to do it with key strokes. If someone can help, I'd be very grateful. I am on sever groups that share links to things and this is something I do quite often. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jun 5 17:49:57 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 02:49:57 +1000 Subject: Another sendspace question In-Reply-To: <277C60E5-295C-4141-AB8F-4CCC06AE1BBE@nc.rr.com> References: <430EE6BC-B295-4F9E-9DD9-EF2D24BE763F@internode.on.net> <724F6E39-C5DD-4112-8213-53E4378B34E9@nc.rr.com> <4DEB8892.7000602@internode.on.net> <277C60E5-295C-4141-AB8F-4CCC06AE1BBE@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <4DEBB3B5.9080302@internode.on.net> Okay, try switching to local view with option-l and then back to remote view with option-r, you should then see a table, interact with that. On 6/06/2011 2:30 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > Sorry. That was a mistype on my part. I did mean option r. What happens is when I do that, it says remote view, but even when I interact, it shows no files. Yet I can tab through the fields and find the list of files that have been uploaded right there and can arrow up and down through them. Why do these weird things happen to me? LOL! Anyway, I tried again to copy as was suggested and it put nothing on the clipboard. > > On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Option-R. >> >> >> >> On 5/06/2011 10:34 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>> Yes. This is what you told me before. However, command r does not take me to the files. They do however show as I tab through the fields. It does not show the links though, just the file names and I can get info about the file size and when it was last downloaded. I cannot copy any of that to the clipboard though. When I try, nothing happens. I believe there were a couple other people who said they use the wizard all the time, so maybe there's another method, or maybe something's wrong with my sendspace set up. Could be something like the mail problem I was having. It can be frustrating being a new user. >>> >>> On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>>> Use option-r, this takes you to the "Remote Files" table, interact with this. >>>> >>>> Navigate to the file you wish to email a link to, use command-c to copy the link to the clipboard or use the associated contextual menu item. >>>> >>>> Write your email and paste the link where required. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 05/06/2011, at 10:23 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've asked before, but maybe someone will have an answer. In the sendspace wizard, on a mac, how can I chose a file that has already been uploaded and have an email sent with the sendspace link in it? Perhaps I need to use a mouse to do this? I can't seem to find a way to do it with key strokes. If someone can help, I'd be very grateful. I am on sever groups that share links to things and this is something I do quite often. >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Sun Jun 5 18:15:18 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 18:15:18 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome; Please Do Not Reply On List! 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We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 18:50:54 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:50:54 -0700 Subject: Another sendspace question In-Reply-To: <430EE6BC-B295-4F9E-9DD9-EF2D24BE763F@internode.on.net> References: <430EE6BC-B295-4F9E-9DD9-EF2D24BE763F@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Huh? the shortcut when I viewed it int eh right click menu was cmd l. Oops? Did they mess up there? Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Use option-r, this takes you to the "Remote Files" table, interact with this. > > Navigate to the file you wish to email a link to, use command-c to copy the link to the clipboard or use the associated contextual menu item. > > Write your email and paste the link where required. > > > On 05/06/2011, at 10:23 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > >> I've asked before, but maybe someone will have an answer. In the sendspace wizard, on a mac, how can I chose a file that has already been uploaded and have an email sent with the sendspace link in it? Perhaps I need to use a mouse to do this? I can't seem to find a way to do it with key strokes. If someone can help, I'd be very grateful. I am on sever groups that share links to things and this is something I do quite often. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 18:51:51 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:51:51 -0700 Subject: Another sendspace question In-Reply-To: <724F6E39-C5DD-4112-8213-53E4378B34E9@nc.rr.com> References: <430EE6BC-B295-4F9E-9DD9-EF2D24BE763F@internode.on.net> <724F6E39-C5DD-4112-8213-53E4378B34E9@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <06E75216-7CDD-4898-BD4B-781A0555BF95@gmail.com> Ok try this. hit cmd vo f5 when you get to the file in question or folder for that matter, control click and hit enter on copy link. Take care of yourself. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > Yes. This is what you told me before. However, command r does not take me to the files. They do however show as I tab through the fields. It does not show the links though, just the file names and I can get info about the file size and when it was last downloaded. I cannot copy any of that to the clipboard though. When I try, nothing happens. I believe there were a couple other people who said they use the wizard all the time, so maybe there's another method, or maybe something's wrong with my sendspace set up. Could be something like the mail problem I was having. It can be frustrating being a new user. > > On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Use option-r, this takes you to the "Remote Files" table, interact with this. >> >> Navigate to the file you wish to email a link to, use command-c to copy the link to the clipboard or use the associated contextual menu item. >> >> Write your email and paste the link where required. >> >> >> On 05/06/2011, at 10:23 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >>> I've asked before, but maybe someone will have an answer. In the sendspace wizard, on a mac, how can I chose a file that has already been uploaded and have an email sent with the sendspace link in it? Perhaps I need to use a mouse to do this? I can't seem to find a way to do it with key strokes. If someone can help, I'd be very grateful. I am on sever groups that share links to things and this is something I do quite often. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 18:54:54 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:54:54 -0700 Subject: Jack OSX verses Soundflower In-Reply-To: <0DC54047-CF35-40A5-8099-DC79FC154BA4@tznet.com> References: <4A95852F-1897-4A81-90AB-9B9652B42C57@tznet.com> <4DE922BD-F688-49CF-AEB0-6401F64D5C85@gmail.com> <0DC54047-CF35-40A5-8099-DC79FC154BA4@tznet.com> Message-ID: Yep here it is. It does distort at the end a bit and that was my fault. lol! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/broadcasting_tutorial.mp3 It does distort at the beginning but I was not aware of it as I was just getting used to my set up. lol! Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 4, 2011, at 9:19 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Sarah: > > Thanks for the info and if you have a demo of the original, I'd be interested to hear it. > > Thanks, > > John > > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I have never used the first plugin but I use sf (sound flower) constently,every day in fact. you don't make any adjustments. you just tell amadeus or what not to go from there, or tell garage band to go from there and rout your mic through there. I did a broadcasting tutorial on that but might turn it in to a youtube presentation at some time when I have the energy as tht onw will be long and I need the time to put it together lol! >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:47 PM, John Gunn wrote: >> >>> Hello All: >>> >>> I did purchase Amadeus Pro and I'm curious if anyone has experience using what the subject line says. >>> >>> These are plugins where you can tell Amadeus Pro to record from let's say Skype, Safari ETC. >>> >>> Hope to get some feedback which one is better and how accessible using with VoiceOver and how to configure. >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> John >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 18:57:26 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:57:26 -0700 Subject: Jack OSX verses Soundflower In-Reply-To: <3EF126CE-A2A6-48E7-A3C2-936C54EBDCD1@gmail.com> References: <4A95852F-1897-4A81-90AB-9B9652B42C57@tznet.com> <4DE922BD-F688-49CF-AEB0-6401F64D5C85@gmail.com> <3EF126CE-A2A6-48E7-A3C2-936C54EBDCD1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9A3FF590-7769-43B4-A6D1-E8C42FD7EFF1@gmail.com> Ah I managed to a lot with SF. I have not heard of jack osx or what ever that thing is called lol! but I use it for everything even recording skype calls via amadeus gb and, well, skype lol! I also use it to make my screenshot vids if they need voice over and if not I put the music behind as I cant' do that in my editing program lol! I might try this jack osx thing though lol! and I do use the status menu a but but not all that much. I just hope they fix the sync issues though. that bug is documented in the google codes project page for SF. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Again, as I pointed out earlier, the downside of SF is that it's not highly flexible unless you can use the status bar icons, and even so, Jack OS X still wins hands down. Soundflower can take the audio and pass it to another application if that application supports sending it elsewhere in the first place, but otherwise, SF becomes virtually useless. > > That's the short version. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I have never used the first plugin but I use sf (sound flower) constently,every day in fact. you don't make any adjustments. you just tell amadeus or what not to go from there, or tell garage band to go from there and rout your mic through there. I did a broadcasting tutorial on that but might turn it in to a youtube presentation at some time when I have the energy as tht onw will be long and I need the time to put it together lol! >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:47 PM, John Gunn wrote: >> >>> Hello All: >>> >>> I did purchase Amadeus Pro and I'm curious if anyone has experience using what the subject line says. >>> >>> These are plugins where you can tell Amadeus Pro to record from let's say Skype, Safari ETC. >>> >>> Hope to get some feedback which one is better and how accessible using with VoiceOver and how to configure. >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> John >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 19:08:33 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 20:08:33 +0200 Subject: Jack OSX verses Soundflower In-Reply-To: <9A3FF590-7769-43B4-A6D1-E8C42FD7EFF1@gmail.com> References: <4A95852F-1897-4A81-90AB-9B9652B42C57@tznet.com> <4DE922BD-F688-49CF-AEB0-6401F64D5C85@gmail.com> <3EF126CE-A2A6-48E7-A3C2-936C54EBDCD1@gmail.com> <9A3FF590-7769-43B4-A6D1-E8C42FD7EFF1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3CABD7AD-04C7-4201-88EC-8991D4205CAD@gmail.com> Hi Sarah, I don't think we're on the same track here. The point is that Jack OS X doesn't need an application to pass the audio, such as recording Skype calls to Amadeus Pro. Secondly, given that SF requires that you can select it as an input, it won't work with applications that do not support this. While Skype does, other applications do not. I haven't seen any statements that confirm that SF can actually cope with situations like those, but of course, Jack OS X isn't only used for that specifically. Regards, Nic On Jun 5, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Ah I managed to a lot with SF. I have not heard of jack osx or what ever that thing is called lol! but I use it for everything even recording skype calls via amadeus gb and, well, skype lol! I also use it to make my screenshot vids if they need voice over and if not I put the music behind as I cant' do that in my editing program lol! > > I might try this jack osx thing though lol! and I do use the status menu a but but not all that much. I just hope they fix the sync issues though. that bug is documented in the google codes project page for SF. > > Take care. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Again, as I pointed out earlier, the downside of SF is that it's not highly flexible unless you can use the status bar icons, and even so, Jack OS X still wins hands down. Soundflower can take the audio and pass it to another application if that application supports sending it elsewhere in the first place, but otherwise, SF becomes virtually useless. >> >> That's the short version. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I have never used the first plugin but I use sf (sound flower) constently,every day in fact. you don't make any adjustments. you just tell amadeus or what not to go from there, or tell garage band to go from there and rout your mic through there. I did a broadcasting tutorial on that but might turn it in to a youtube presentation at some time when I have the energy as tht onw will be long and I need the time to put it together lol! >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:47 PM, John Gunn wrote: >>> >>>> Hello All: >>>> >>>> I did purchase Amadeus Pro and I'm curious if anyone has experience using what the subject line says. >>>> >>>> These are plugins where you can tell Amadeus Pro to record from let's say Skype, Safari ETC. >>>> >>>> Hope to get some feedback which one is better and how accessible using with VoiceOver and how to configure. >>>> >>>> Take care, >>>> >>>> John >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Sun Jun 5 20:35:11 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 14:35:11 -0500 Subject: Jack OSX verses Soundflower In-Reply-To: <3CABD7AD-04C7-4201-88EC-8991D4205CAD@gmail.com> References: <4A95852F-1897-4A81-90AB-9B9652B42C57@tznet.com> <4DE922BD-F688-49CF-AEB0-6401F64D5C85@gmail.com> <3EF126CE-A2A6-48E7-A3C2-936C54EBDCD1@gmail.com> <9A3FF590-7769-43B4-A6D1-E8C42FD7EFF1@gmail.com> <3CABD7AD-04C7-4201-88EC-8991D4205CAD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <02FE3D76-C4D8-4E70-A216-8CE15A6E2335@tznet.com> Hello: So is Jack OSX accessible and easy to configure? On Jun 5, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > I don't think we're on the same track here. > > The point is that Jack OS X doesn't need an application to pass the audio, such as recording Skype calls to Amadeus Pro. Secondly, given that SF requires that you can select it as an input, it won't work with applications that do not support this. While Skype does, other applications do not. I haven't seen any statements that confirm that SF can actually cope with situations like those, but of course, Jack OS X isn't only used for that specifically. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jun 5, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ah I managed to a lot with SF. I have not heard of jack osx or what ever that thing is called lol! but I use it for everything even recording skype calls via amadeus gb and, well, skype lol! I also use it to make my screenshot vids if they need voice over and if not I put the music behind as I cant' do that in my editing program lol! >> >> I might try this jack osx thing though lol! and I do use the status menu a but but not all that much. I just hope they fix the sync issues though. that bug is documented in the google codes project page for SF. >> >> Take care. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> Again, as I pointed out earlier, the downside of SF is that it's not highly flexible unless you can use the status bar icons, and even so, Jack OS X still wins hands down. Soundflower can take the audio and pass it to another application if that application supports sending it elsewhere in the first place, but otherwise, SF becomes virtually useless. >>> >>> That's the short version. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I have never used the first plugin but I use sf (sound flower) constently,every day in fact. you don't make any adjustments. you just tell amadeus or what not to go from there, or tell garage band to go from there and rout your mic through there. I did a broadcasting tutorial on that but might turn it in to a youtube presentation at some time when I have the energy as tht onw will be long and I need the time to put it together lol! >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:47 PM, John Gunn wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello All: >>>>> >>>>> I did purchase Amadeus Pro and I'm curious if anyone has experience using what the subject line says. >>>>> >>>>> These are plugins where you can tell Amadeus Pro to record from let's say Skype, Safari ETC. >>>>> >>>>> Hope to get some feedback which one is better and how accessible using with VoiceOver and how to configure. >>>>> >>>>> Take care, >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Sun Jun 5 20:43:59 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 14:43:59 -0500 Subject: Jack OSX verses Soundflower In-Reply-To: References: <4A95852F-1897-4A81-90AB-9B9652B42C57@tznet.com> <4DE922BD-F688-49CF-AEB0-6401F64D5C85@gmail.com> <0DC54047-CF35-40A5-8099-DC79FC154BA4@tznet.com> Message-ID: <32A3D359-D29E-4B11-BB80-650F439C65CD@tznet.com> I'm able to click on the link but after 5 or so minutes nothing happens. I see where the track is over 25 minutes but as I said nothing happens. On Jun 5, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yep here it is. It does distort at the end a bit and that was my fault. lol! > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/broadcasting_tutorial.mp3 > > It does distort at the beginning but I was not aware of it as I was just getting used to my set up. lol! > > Take care. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 9:19 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Sarah: >> >> Thanks for the info and if you have a demo of the original, I'd be interested to hear it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> John >> >> >> On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I have never used the first plugin but I use sf (sound flower) constently,every day in fact. you don't make any adjustments. you just tell amadeus or what not to go from there, or tell garage band to go from there and rout your mic through there. I did a broadcasting tutorial on that but might turn it in to a youtube presentation at some time when I have the energy as tht onw will be long and I need the time to put it together lol! >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:47 PM, John Gunn wrote: >>> >>>> Hello All: >>>> >>>> I did purchase Amadeus Pro and I'm curious if anyone has experience using what the subject line says. >>>> >>>> These are plugins where you can tell Amadeus Pro to record from let's say Skype, Safari ETC. >>>> >>>> Hope to get some feedback which one is better and how accessible using with VoiceOver and how to configure. >>>> >>>> Take care, >>>> >>>> John >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 20:49:10 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 12:49:10 -0700 Subject: Jack OSX verses Soundflower In-Reply-To: <3CABD7AD-04C7-4201-88EC-8991D4205CAD@gmail.com> References: <4A95852F-1897-4A81-90AB-9B9652B42C57@tznet.com> <4DE922BD-F688-49CF-AEB0-6401F64D5C85@gmail.com> <3EF126CE-A2A6-48E7-A3C2-936C54EBDCD1@gmail.com> <9A3FF590-7769-43B4-A6D1-E8C42FD7EFF1@gmail.com> <3CABD7AD-04C7-4201-88EC-8991D4205CAD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <04488F18-72C4-400F-AC95-1DFAB90ECB7D@gmail.com> Ah. I'll check it out. I also have audio hijack pro. If I can use SF with itunes? but itunes does not support the changing of the output eather. Darn! Ah well. To each his or her own. I don't mind using amadeus pro as I can edit to my hart's content and stuff. I like the fact I can control levels spreatlya nd stuff. but I'll check it out anyway you neve rknow. one more tool under my belt. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 5, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > I don't think we're on the same track here. > > The point is that Jack OS X doesn't need an application to pass the audio, such as recording Skype calls to Amadeus Pro. Secondly, given that SF requires that you can select it as an input, it won't work with applications that do not support this. While Skype does, other applications do not. I haven't seen any statements that confirm that SF can actually cope with situations like those, but of course, Jack OS X isn't only used for that specifically. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jun 5, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ah I managed to a lot with SF. I have not heard of jack osx or what ever that thing is called lol! but I use it for everything even recording skype calls via amadeus gb and, well, skype lol! I also use it to make my screenshot vids if they need voice over and if not I put the music behind as I cant' do that in my editing program lol! >> >> I might try this jack osx thing though lol! and I do use the status menu a but but not all that much. I just hope they fix the sync issues though. that bug is documented in the google codes project page for SF. >> >> Take care. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> Again, as I pointed out earlier, the downside of SF is that it's not highly flexible unless you can use the status bar icons, and even so, Jack OS X still wins hands down. Soundflower can take the audio and pass it to another application if that application supports sending it elsewhere in the first place, but otherwise, SF becomes virtually useless. >>> >>> That's the short version. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I have never used the first plugin but I use sf (sound flower) constently,every day in fact. you don't make any adjustments. you just tell amadeus or what not to go from there, or tell garage band to go from there and rout your mic through there. I did a broadcasting tutorial on that but might turn it in to a youtube presentation at some time when I have the energy as tht onw will be long and I need the time to put it together lol! >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:47 PM, John Gunn wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello All: >>>>> >>>>> I did purchase Amadeus Pro and I'm curious if anyone has experience using what the subject line says. >>>>> >>>>> These are plugins where you can tell Amadeus Pro to record from let's say Skype, Safari ETC. >>>>> >>>>> Hope to get some feedback which one is better and how accessible using with VoiceOver and how to configure. >>>>> >>>>> Take care, >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From stuartyoung at samobile.net Sun Jun 5 21:33:30 2011 From: stuartyoung at samobile.net (Stuart Young) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 16:33:30 -0400 Subject: using victor stream with fusion Message-ID: <20110605203330.6713.66388@ip-10-203-66-216.ec2.internal> Hi all has anyone had any problems connecting the victor reader stream using fusion? it connects to the mac fine by its self but when i try to use fusion to connect to a virtual machine it makes the connecting sound but doesn't show up. i wasn't sure if there were any drivers that i needed to install first i have tried a memory stick and a hard disk drive which both work fine. any ideas that you have to try would be great. Regards Stu. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 23:52:22 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:52:22 -0700 Subject: A chat invite: After WWDC Chat Message-ID: <20ACEE32-0EBB-44DE-8918-B90480D782C0@gmail.com> Got this off of another list. Enjoy. Not sure I'll be able to make it as i will be sleeping during th ekeynote but for all you who are up. Message is below. Hi folks, I'd like to cordially invite you to an After WWDC chat hosted by Mobile Access. The plan is to do the chat at a server using an accessible chat client that allows realtime chat capabilities. The topic will be focusing on Apple and its announcements from Monday's WWDC, with people expecting announcements about iOS 5.0 and other news. For more info on the chat, the program we use and server settings, please contact me or Ricardo Walker. Thanks, and hope to see you tomorrow. Cheers, Joseph From gunn at tznet.com Mon Jun 6 02:32:00 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 20:32:00 -0500 Subject: Soundflower question Message-ID: Hello All: I may not be able to use SoundFlower unless I can access it from the menu bar. Using an iMac early 2008 and since I don't have a trackpad, just standard mouse and keyboard is there anyway I can access from the menu bar? By the usual navigation I hear TimeMachine system sound ETC but I am not able to access SoundFlower. Any suggestions will be appreciated. John From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 04:40:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 20:40:12 -0700 Subject: Soundflower question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <73172EEA-7B78-4148-B0A4-9AE35CE9C4E0@gmail.com> What happens if you move your mouse when mouse focus is on the time machine thing? I wonder if that would work. You really don't need to change anything actually Just change it in your program of choice. At least, that's what I did, and do. lol! but try using your regular mouse and locking your keys to see if that would help? I really don't know. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:32 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Hello All: > > I may not be able to use SoundFlower unless I can access it from the menu bar. > > Using an iMac early 2008 and since I don't have a trackpad, just standard mouse and keyboard is there anyway I can access from the menu bar? > > By the usual navigation I hear TimeMachine system sound ETC but I am not able to access SoundFlower. > > Any suggestions will be appreciated. > > John > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Mon Jun 6 07:38:27 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 07:38:27 +0100 Subject: account password on the mac Message-ID: <4dec7357.953ce30a.6f5a.ffffc73f@mx.google.com> how do i activate the account password on my macbook? also do i need to change any preferences in voiceover so i get speech at login and if so how? From moriond at mac.com Mon Jun 6 08:46:09 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 21:46:09 -1000 Subject: DVDRemaster Pro 7.0.3 $24.99 (50% off) today at MacZOT Message-ID: Hi, I know that a number of list members have DVDRemaster Pro from other sale bundle purchases, but I thought I would mention that it is featured as today's discounted software at MacZOT, and is available for $24.99 instead of the regular $49.99 list price for the next 21 some hours. http://www.maczot.com/ This is an accessible application for converting your DVD movies to digital formats supported by, for example, the iPhone, Apple TV, or just for use on your network. Gordon also worked with the developer to improve what was already a pretty accessible app. I don't do a lot with DVD movies, but a fair number of other list members can probably answer questions about this. You can also do a trial download. If you want to find out more, the developer's site is: http://www.metakine.com/products/dvdremaster/ Compared to free products such as handbake, this converts your videos about 3 times faster, as well as supporting other features in audio track extraction. The only issue with MacZOT (as with MacUpdate's Promo site) is that you have to register before you can purchase, and I believe that requires negotiating a CAPTCHA. At least, it did 3 years ago, when I made a purchase. HTH. Cheers, Esther From solsticesinger at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 10:31:45 2011 From: solsticesinger at gmail.com (solsticesinger at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 05:31:45 -0400 Subject: Verbosity question Message-ID: Hi, all. I bought a MacBook yesterday. I notice that it's reading everything, way more than I'll ever want to know. For example, when I'm writing an email, it keeps announcing the font size. It's also telling me things about horizontal and vertical splitters. How can I make this stop? Any help is greatly appreciated. Shannon From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Mon Jun 6 11:32:04 2011 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (michael) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:32:04 +1000 Subject: help with clam av. References: <1BD2910C99C34C7E8E614D3F95E5565F@toshibauser> <8A369013-5C00-480F-943A-029424497FFA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thanks for that help James i installed intego app today and like it it's easy to use. regards Michael. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAMES AUSTIN" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: Re: help with clam av. > We've not bought one as yet, but you might want to check out Virus Barrier > Express from Intego. It is in the App Store, so it would save you > searching the net. It is free and offers a subset of features. It is built > upon its older sibling Virus Barrier X6. There are others of course and I > think one is available from ProtectMac. > > HTH > TC :) > James > On 5 Jun 2011, at 11:50, michael wrote: > >> Thanks for that info James I was just looking for a free virus program at >> the moment. >> I run free avast on my windows machine but the mac version is not free i >> think. >> >> If i need to buy one wich is the best at a cheap price. >> regards Michael. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAMES AUSTIN" >> >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 5:23 PM >> Subject: Re: help with clam av. >> >> >>> Hello Michael, >>> On 5 Jun 2011, at 03:05, michael wrote: >>>> Hi guys i have got some good points from you about mac anti virus and >>>> i >>>> want to try the free one clam av and i did install it but every time i >>>> went >>>> to do a scann it came up with errors.It said close or reopen clam av it >>>> installed okay. >>> Firstly, good luck using Clam AV. :) From what I've heard, the app is >>> not very intuitive. I've not tried it myself though so take this with a >>> pinch of salt. >>> >>> Secondly, have you tried Googling the error message? Google is your >>> friend here. Just be careful though as the MacDefender scam targets >>> search engines and allows for legitimate search queries. >>> >>> TC :) >>> James >>>> Hi guys i have got some good points from you about mac anti virus and >>>> i >>>> want to try the free one clam av and i did install it but every time i >>>> went >>>> to do a scann it came up with errors.It said close or reopen clam av it >>>> installed okay. >>>> So can any one help please. >>>> regards Michael. >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>> the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Mon Jun 6 11:54:28 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:54:28 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome; [Please Do Not Reply On List] Message-ID: <338398C5-F4E3-4B9B-81B5-C49E17BA33BC@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Carolyn Haas to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jun 6 13:19:41 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:19:41 +0100 Subject: Liking Virus Barier Express from Intego In-Reply-To: References: <1BD2910C99C34C7E8E614D3F95E5565F@toshibauser> <8A369013-5C00-480F-943A-029424497FFA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Glad you like VBX Michael. TC :) James On 6 Jun 2011, at 11:32, michael wrote: > Thanks for that help James i installed intego app today and like it it's easy to use. > regards Michael. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAMES AUSTIN" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: help with clam av. > > >> We've not bought one as yet, but you might want to check out Virus Barrier Express from Intego. It is in the App Store, so it would save you searching the net. It is free and offers a subset of features. It is built upon its older sibling Virus Barrier X6. There are others of course and I think one is available from ProtectMac. >> >> HTH >> TC :) >> James >> On 5 Jun 2011, at 11:50, michael wrote: >> >>> Thanks for that info James I was just looking for a free virus program at the moment. >>> I run free avast on my windows machine but the mac version is not free i think. >>> >>> If i need to buy one wich is the best at a cheap price. >>> regards Michael. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAMES AUSTIN" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 5:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: help with clam av. >>> >>> >>>> Hello Michael, >>>> On 5 Jun 2011, at 03:05, michael wrote: >>>>> Hi guys i have got some good points from you about mac anti virus and i >>>>> want to try the free one clam av and i did install it but every time i went >>>>> to do a scann it came up with errors.It said close or reopen clam av it >>>>> installed okay. >>>> Firstly, good luck using Clam AV. :) From what I've heard, the app is not very intuitive. I've not tried it myself though so take this with a pinch of salt. >>>> >>>> Secondly, have you tried Googling the error message? Google is your friend here. Just be careful though as the MacDefender scam targets search engines and allows for legitimate search queries. >>>> >>>> TC :) >>>> James >>>>> Hi guys i have got some good points from you about mac anti virus and i >>>>> want to try the free one clam av and i did install it but every time i went >>>>> to do a scann it came up with errors.It said close or reopen clam av it >>>>> installed okay. >>>>> So can any one help please. >>>>> regards Michael. >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:27:37 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:27:37 -0400 Subject: Verbosity question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <908F9D54-754F-4996-A3E2-1F8A3CC4583C@gmail.com> To adjust the text attribute verbosity do the following: 1. Hit control-option-V This should bring you into a verbosity settings rotor. You can navigate the setting types wit left and right arrow keys and change the setting using the up and down arrows. You can also hit "A" to jump to text attribute settings. Once you have changed the verbosity hit either escape or enter to return to your open window. I don't believe there is a way to avoid announcement of splitters between regions, but I have not attempted all the verbosity levels. Jonathan Cohn On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:31 AM, solsticesinger at gmail.com wrote: > Hi, all. > > I bought a MacBook yesterday. I notice that it's reading everything, way more than I'll ever want to know. For example, when I'm writing an email, it keeps announcing the font size. It's also telling me things about horizontal and vertical splitters. How can I make this stop? Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Shannon > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Mon Jun 6 14:23:05 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:23:05 +0100 Subject: Verbosity question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Shannon. You can change Verbosity Settings by pressing VO (Control+Option) plus F8 to go to VoiceOver Utility. If you haven't got F1,F2, etc set to be used as standard function keys which is not enabled by default, you have to press Function + VO + F8 to access VoiceOver Utility. Once you have done this, arrow down to Verbosity. Press tab until you hear High Popup Button, and change it to either Medium or Low. Then press Command Q to quit VoiceOver Utility. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 6 Jun 2011, at 10:31, solsticesinger at gmail.com wrote: > Hi, all. > > I bought a MacBook yesterday. I notice that it's reading everything, way more than I'll ever want to know. For example, when I'm writing an email, it keeps announcing the font size. It's also telling me things about horizontal and vertical splitters. How can I make this stop? Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Shannon > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Jun 6 17:55:29 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 02:55:29 +1000 Subject: PKT Weather for Iphone/Ipad Message-ID: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> Hi! Anyone using this? In my view its the best weather app for the Iphone/Ipad I've come across yet. Firstly its very accessible and secondly its very detailed, I have both the Local and World editions here and I frequently reference the world edition. Everything is displayed in plain language, for example if you see a reference to a temperature then to the right of this is displayed what relevance the temperature is, that is to say whether its current, minimum, maximum comfort level etc. The app handles long range forecasts up to a week in advance. From bardiazakeri at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 18:08:34 2011 From: bardiazakeri at gmail.com (bardia) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:08:34 +0200 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> hi! how can i see the presentation for apple today? From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Jun 6 18:15:26 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 03:15:26 +1000 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> y this link On 7/06/2011 3:08 AM, bardia wrote: > hi! > how can i see the presentation for apple today? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to > the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From bardiazakeri at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 18:21:18 2011 From: bardiazakeri at gmail.com (bardia) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:21:18 +0200 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> but were i can listen to the presentation? From bardiazakeri at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 18:23:12 2011 From: bardiazakeri at gmail.com (bardia) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:23:12 +0200 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4DED0D00.7030509@gmail.com> i want to see the widoe today Dane Trethowan skrev 2011-06-06 19:15: > y this link > > > > On 7/06/2011 3:08 AM, bardia wrote: >> hi! >> how can i see the presentation for apple today? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >> the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 18:39:02 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:39:02 +0100 Subject: iplayer again Message-ID: <274AA680-8F1C-418B-AF59-3A9A9E5F712F@gmail.com> hi why can i now please not use iplayer downloader? when i click a program i just get the inaccessible flash player i don't want to use windows to play programs From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Jun 6 20:04:35 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:04:35 +0100 Subject: iplayer again In-Reply-To: <274AA680-8F1C-418B-AF59-3A9A9E5F712F@gmail.com> References: <274AA680-8F1C-418B-AF59-3A9A9E5F712F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi WIlliam, I have exactly the same problem. I understand from the In Touch program broadcast in the UK that the iPlayer has recently changed and is less accessible than it used to be for screen reader users even on Windows. However it still works fine on my iPhone for both radio and TV programs. > Paul Hopewell From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:06:42 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:06:42 +0100 Subject: iplayer again In-Reply-To: References: <274AA680-8F1C-418B-AF59-3A9A9E5F712F@gmail.com> Message-ID: radio working fine it hink paul tv a bit odd using fusion for now though to watch what i wanted so all is not lost for now smile On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:04, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi WIlliam, > I have exactly the same problem. I understand from the In Touch program broadcast in the UK that the iPlayer has recently changed and is less accessible than it used to be for screen reader users even on Windows. However it still works fine on my iPhone for both radio and TV programs. > >> Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jun 6 20:15:58 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:15:58 +0100 Subject: iplayer again In-Reply-To: References: <274AA680-8F1C-418B-AF59-3A9A9E5F712F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3E674198-B8A9-403C-8237-603827373537@mac-access.net> Hi Paul, On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:04, Paul Hopewell wrote: > However it still works fine on my iPhone for both radio and TV programs. I am pretty certain this is because the IPhone uses HTML5 by default, or at least, it does not allow Flash. Unfortunately, the BBC Accessibility folks seem to be persisting in using Flash. TC :) James > Hi WIlliam, > I have exactly the same problem. I understand from the In Touch program broadcast in the UK that the iPlayer has recently changed and is less accessible than it used to be for screen reader users even on Windows. However it still works fine on my iPhone for both radio and TV programs. > >> Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lmumford at uga.edu Mon Jun 6 20:01:02 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:01:02 +0000 Subject: what's wrong with my mail? Message-ID: <1BA8CE5D-E2AD-4914-AFDD-C922E558B20F@uga.edu> Help list! My mail is all messed up and I have no idea why. It seems that voice over and the keyboard are not tracking each other. In fact they, along with the mouse, seem to be doing there own thing independently. For instance, the voice over cursor will be in the message table, but when I open up a message, the voice over cursor jumps to the tool bar. I keep anually fixing the voice over cursor to be where I want it to, and now the voice over cursor will tell me I'm one place, while the keyboard focus is somewhere else. I suspect I need to change the tracking in the systmes preferences... at present they are all checked- which ones should stay checked and which ones should I uncheck. I'm referring to voice over, keyboard focus, and the mouse tracking each other. Or is it something else that is messing up my mail? Thanks very much, Linda wi From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 6 20:18:56 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:18:56 +0100 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> Message-ID: On 6 Jun 2011, at 18:15, Dane Trethowan wrote: y this linkaddress/> Dane; you're obviously a fan of the Josh Johnson site. :) Lynne On 7/06/2011 3:08 AM, bardia wrote: > hi! > how can i see the presentation for apple today? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:21:35 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:21:35 -0700 Subject: what's wrong with my mail? In-Reply-To: <1BA8CE5D-E2AD-4914-AFDD-C922E558B20F@uga.edu> References: <1BA8CE5D-E2AD-4914-AFDD-C922E558B20F@uga.edu> Message-ID: Try hitting vo shift f3 to turn curser tracking on. I forgot which ones to check in th evo utilities and the manual is just a tad confusing at that point. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: > Help list! > My mail is all messed up and I have no idea why. It seems that voice over and the keyboard are not tracking each other. In fact they, along with the mouse, seem to be doing there own thing independently. For instance, the voice over cursor will be in the message table, but when I open up a message, the voice over cursor jumps to the tool bar. I keep anually fixing the voice over cursor to be where I want it to, and now the voice over cursor will tell me I'm one place, while the keyboard focus is somewhere else. I suspect I need to change the tracking in the systmes preferences... at present they are all checked- which ones should stay checked and which ones should I uncheck. I'm referring to voice over, keyboard focus, and the mouse tracking each other. Or is it something else that is messing up my mail? > Thanks very much, > Linda wi > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:22:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:22:50 -0700 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> I'm actually subscribed to the wwdc feed. I'll be downloading the presentation later today and hopefully streaming and commenting on it on my station. if I'm awake enough to do so. that will be about 9 in th eevening lol! no thanks. Take care Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, bardia wrote: > but were i can listen to the presentation? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Mon Jun 6 20:32:56 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:32:56 +0100 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <41568B29-1E62-4511-8CC6-744C5D98486F@mac-access.net> Sarah I advise strongly against re-streaming it, it's copyright. Gordon On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: I'm actually subscribed to the wwdc feed. I'll be downloading the presentation later today and hopefully streaming and commenting on it on my station. if I'm awake enough to do so. that will be about 9 in th eevening lol! no thanks. Take care Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, bardia wrote: > but were i can listen to the presentation? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: Gordon Smith gordon at mac-access.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:38:31 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:38:31 -0700 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <41568B29-1E62-4511-8CC6-744C5D98486F@mac-access.net> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> <41568B29-1E62-4511-8CC6-744C5D98486F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9692AD65-75FB-4D7D-8F70-FD2AF6A56F06@gmail.com> Ah true. I forgot about that. Usually Darcy and holly stream the wwec thing and they will talk over it to make comments and boy do I have a lot of comments. I'm not happy with the changes but that will be discussed later. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Sarah > > I advise strongly against re-streaming it, it's copyright. > > Gordon > > On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > I'm actually subscribed to the wwdc feed. I'll be downloading the presentation later today and hopefully streaming and commenting on it on my station. if I'm awake enough to do so. that will be about 9 in th eevening lol! no thanks. > > Take care > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, bardia wrote: > >> but were i can listen to the presentation? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > Gordon Smith > gordon at mac-access.net > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chaas0217 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:39:12 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:39:12 -0600 Subject: mail help Message-ID: Hi Linda: Sounds as though your tracking settings may have been compromised. I went into voiceover utility and copied my settings under the Navigation category, in case a comparison would be helpful. These are just my arbitrary settings to some degree, and they may not reflect the default. But, they might give you a clue. The other thing is you might be inadvertently affecting your trackpad. I often turn my trackpad commander off when in mail. Hope this helps. Take care and below my signature are the settings. Carolyn Haas , Keyboard focused item: initial position of voiceover cursor selected keyboard focus follows voiceover cursor checked voiceover cursor follows keyboard focus checked Insertion point follows voiceover cursor checked voiceover cursor follows insertion point: checked Follows voiceover cursor: Mouse cursor allow cursor wrapping: unchecked Skip redundant labels: checked automatically interact when using tab key: unchecked From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:47:35 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:47:35 +0200 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <9692AD65-75FB-4D7D-8F70-FD2AF6A56F06@gmail.com> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> <41568B29-1E62-4511-8CC6-744C5D98486F@mac-access.net> <9692AD65-75FB-4D7D-8F70-FD2AF6A56F06@gmail.com> Message-ID: <027BE048-C179-4392-B64E-D885E7D770A6@gmail.com> Hi! Well,personally, I thought they were pretty fantastic announcements, mostly. Sadly, I have no idea what creates a restriction like this, but apparently iCloud is only available to US customers in beta right now. This seems kind of odd to me, since I would have figured it testing it on a larger scale would have been a lot more appropriate. I suppose the US is big enough, but even so, odd country-specific bugs have been known to pop up. I'm not going to go on about how much I hate this US thing, but it's made me slap my forehead plenty of times. Also, if I did rant, it'd turn into pages upon pages. Regardless, though, I'm looking forward to the release. Regards, Nic On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Ah true. I forgot about that. Usually Darcy and holly stream the wwec thing and they will talk over it to make comments and boy do I have a lot of comments. I'm not happy with the changes but that will be discussed later. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Sarah >> >> I advise strongly against re-streaming it, it's copyright. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >> I'm actually subscribed to the wwdc feed. I'll be downloading the presentation later today and hopefully streaming and commenting on it on my station. if I'm awake enough to do so. that will be about 9 in th eevening lol! no thanks. >> >> Take care >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, bardia wrote: >> >>> but were i can listen to the presentation? >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> Gordon Smith >> gordon at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jun 6 20:54:51 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:54:51 +0100 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <027BE048-C179-4392-B64E-D885E7D770A6@gmail.com> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> <41568B29-1E62-4511-8CC6-744C5D98486F@mac-access.net> <9692AD65-75FB-4D7D-8F70-FD2AF6A56F06@gmail.com> <027BE048-C179-4392-B64E-D885E7D770A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1EF72291-DCB6-412A-95C4-9FD2933DA095@mac-access.net> I've not been able to listen to the presentation yet, is there a link available yet, I can't seem to find one? I tried the link that Dane sent, but couldn't seem to find any audio, just a synopsis. Thanks TC :) James On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:47, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > Well,personally, I thought they were pretty fantastic announcements, mostly. Sadly, I have no idea what creates a restriction like this, but apparently iCloud is only available to US customers in beta right now. This seems kind of odd to me, since I would have figured it testing it on a larger scale would have been a lot more appropriate. I suppose the US is big enough, but even so, odd country-specific bugs have been known to pop up. > > I'm not going to go on about how much I hate this US thing, but it's made me slap my forehead plenty of times. Also, if I did rant, it'd turn into pages upon pages. Regardless, though, I'm looking forward to the release. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ah true. I forgot about that. Usually Darcy and holly stream the wwec thing and they will talk over it to make comments and boy do I have a lot of comments. I'm not happy with the changes but that will be discussed later. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Sarah >>> >>> I advise strongly against re-streaming it, it's copyright. >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>> I'm actually subscribed to the wwdc feed. I'll be downloading the presentation later today and hopefully streaming and commenting on it on my station. if I'm awake enough to do so. that will be about 9 in th eevening lol! no thanks. >>> >>> Take care >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, bardia wrote: >>> >>>> but were i can listen to the presentation? >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> Gordon Smith >>> gordon at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:57:55 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:57:55 -0400 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <1EF72291-DCB6-412A-95C4-9FD2933DA095@mac-access.net> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> <41568B29-1E62-4511-8CC6-744C5D98486F@mac-access.net> <9692AD65-75FB-4D7D-8F70-FD2AF6A56F06@gmail.com> <027BE048-C179-4392-B64E-D885E7D770A6@gmail.com> <1EF72291-DCB6-412A-95C4-9FD2933DA095@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6D2EF26C-AC79-47BA-9DCF-05769B188CC4@gmail.com> I haven't found a link, but I am subscribed to the podcast. URL is: http://www.apple.com/podcasts/apple_keynotes/apple_keynotes.xml At least that's what I get when I tell it to copy the podcast URL. I guess it'll be available around 7 or 8 Eastern, like it usually has been, but I don't know for sure. Jane On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:54 PM, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > I've not been able to listen to the presentation yet, is there a link available yet, I can't seem to find one? I tried the link that Dane sent, but couldn't seem to find any audio, just a synopsis. > > Thanks > TC :) > James > On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:47, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Well,personally, I thought they were pretty fantastic announcements, mostly. Sadly, I have no idea what creates a restriction like this, but apparently iCloud is only available to US customers in beta right now. This seems kind of odd to me, since I would have figured it testing it on a larger scale would have been a lot more appropriate. I suppose the US is big enough, but even so, odd country-specific bugs have been known to pop up. >> >> I'm not going to go on about how much I hate this US thing, but it's made me slap my forehead plenty of times. Also, if I did rant, it'd turn into pages upon pages. Regardless, though, I'm looking forward to the release. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Ah true. I forgot about that. Usually Darcy and holly stream the wwec thing and they will talk over it to make comments and boy do I have a lot of comments. I'm not happy with the changes but that will be discussed later. >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Sarah >>>> >>>> I advise strongly against re-streaming it, it's copyright. >>>> >>>> Gordon >>>> >>>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm actually subscribed to the wwdc feed. I'll be downloading the presentation later today and hopefully streaming and commenting on it on my station. if I'm awake enough to do so. that will be about 9 in th eevening lol! no thanks. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, bardia wrote: >>>> >>>>> but were i can listen to the presentation? >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> Gordon Smith >>>> gordon at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Jane From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:58:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:58:40 -0700 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <027BE048-C179-4392-B64E-D885E7D770A6@gmail.com> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> <41568B29-1E62-4511-8CC6-744C5D98486F@mac-access.net> <9692AD65-75FB-4D7D-8F70-FD2AF6A56F06@gmail.com> <027BE048-C179-4392-B64E-D885E7D770A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <611C6EDE-E8DB-44CF-8F34-1656085635AE@gmail.com> lol! Yeah I noticed that to and the beta for ios5 shoudl be availible soon, for $7. tha'ts in usd btw. Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > Well,personally, I thought they were pretty fantastic announcements, mostly. Sadly, I have no idea what creates a restriction like this, but apparently iCloud is only available to US customers in beta right now. This seems kind of odd to me, since I would have figured it testing it on a larger scale would have been a lot more appropriate. I suppose the US is big enough, but even so, odd country-specific bugs have been known to pop up. > > I'm not going to go on about how much I hate this US thing, but it's made me slap my forehead plenty of times. Also, if I did rant, it'd turn into pages upon pages. Regardless, though, I'm looking forward to the release. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ah true. I forgot about that. Usually Darcy and holly stream the wwec thing and they will talk over it to make comments and boy do I have a lot of comments. I'm not happy with the changes but that will be discussed later. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Sarah >>> >>> I advise strongly against re-streaming it, it's copyright. >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>> I'm actually subscribed to the wwdc feed. I'll be downloading the presentation later today and hopefully streaming and commenting on it on my station. if I'm awake enough to do so. that will be about 9 in th eevening lol! no thanks. >>> >>> Take care >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, bardia wrote: >>> >>>> but were i can listen to the presentation? >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> Gordon Smith >>> gordon at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:59:36 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:59:36 -0700 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <1EF72291-DCB6-412A-95C4-9FD2933DA095@mac-access.net> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> <41568B29-1E62-4511-8CC6-744C5D98486F@mac-access.net> <9692AD65-75FB-4D7D-8F70-FD2AF6A56F06@gmail.com> <027BE048-C179-4392-B64E-D885E7D770A6@gmail.com> <1EF72291-DCB6-412A-95C4-9FD2933DA095@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <48A0E7EA-07CD-4CDA-8010-3AF30CC52E4D@gmail.com> I'll see what darcy has. hang on. Might be over by now but here. And we're live. http://bit.ly/l0Lfxl # Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:54 PM, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > I've not been able to listen to the presentation yet, is there a link available yet, I can't seem to find one? I tried the link that Dane sent, but couldn't seem to find any audio, just a synopsis. > > Thanks > TC :) > James > On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:47, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Well,personally, I thought they were pretty fantastic announcements, mostly. Sadly, I have no idea what creates a restriction like this, but apparently iCloud is only available to US customers in beta right now. This seems kind of odd to me, since I would have figured it testing it on a larger scale would have been a lot more appropriate. I suppose the US is big enough, but even so, odd country-specific bugs have been known to pop up. >> >> I'm not going to go on about how much I hate this US thing, but it's made me slap my forehead plenty of times. Also, if I did rant, it'd turn into pages upon pages. Regardless, though, I'm looking forward to the release. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Ah true. I forgot about that. Usually Darcy and holly stream the wwec thing and they will talk over it to make comments and boy do I have a lot of comments. I'm not happy with the changes but that will be discussed later. >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Sarah >>>> >>>> I advise strongly against re-streaming it, it's copyright. >>>> >>>> Gordon >>>> >>>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm actually subscribed to the wwdc feed. I'll be downloading the presentation later today and hopefully streaming and commenting on it on my station. if I'm awake enough to do so. that will be about 9 in th eevening lol! no thanks. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, bardia wrote: >>>> >>>>> but were i can listen to the presentation? >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> Gordon Smith >>>> gordon at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chaas0217 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:59:59 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:59:59 -0600 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <1EF72291-DCB6-412A-95C4-9FD2933DA095@mac-access.net> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> <41568B29-1E62-4511-8CC6-744C5D98486F@mac-access.net> <9692AD65-75FB-4D7D-8F70-FD2AF6A56F06@gmail.com> <027BE048-C179-4392-B64E-D885E7D770A6@gmail.com> <1EF72291-DCB6-412A-95C4-9FD2933DA095@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <758C5ACB-D14C-4580-8B43-7CAED390C68B@gmail.com> I couldn't find one either. But, someone did some excellent coverage on MacRumors.com Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > I've not been able to listen to the presentation yet, is there a link available yet, I can't seem to find one? I tried the link that Dane sent, but couldn't seem to find any audio, just a synopsis. > > Thanks > TC :) > James > On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:47, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Well,personally, I thought they were pretty fantastic announcements, mostly. Sadly, I have no idea what creates a restriction like this, but apparently iCloud is only available to US customers in beta right now. This seems kind of odd to me, since I would have figured it testing it on a larger scale would have been a lot more appropriate. I suppose the US is big enough, but even so, odd country-specific bugs have been known to pop up. >> >> I'm not going to go on about how much I hate this US thing, but it's made me slap my forehead plenty of times. Also, if I did rant, it'd turn into pages upon pages. Regardless, though, I'm looking forward to the release. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Ah true. I forgot about that. Usually Darcy and holly stream the wwec thing and they will talk over it to make comments and boy do I have a lot of comments. I'm not happy with the changes but that will be discussed later. >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Sarah >>>> >>>> I advise strongly against re-streaming it, it's copyright. >>>> >>>> Gordon >>>> >>>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:22, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm actually subscribed to the wwdc feed. I'll be downloading the presentation later today and hopefully streaming and commenting on it on my station. if I'm awake enough to do so. that will be about 9 in th eevening lol! no thanks. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, bardia wrote: >>>> >>>>> but were i can listen to the presentation? >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> Gordon Smith >>>> gordon at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 21:41:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:41:39 -0700 Subject: WWDC: Lion revealed, will ship in July for $30 Message-ID: <26AA245F-44B9-424F-A646-2699F1B9D515@gmail.com> WWDC: Lion revealed, will ship in July for $30 After a brief presentation on Lion's new features at Monday's Worldwide Developers Conference keynote, Apple announced that the new OS would be shipping in July for just $30, and available solely from the Mac App Store. http://bit.ly/iq2SWe The thign that bugs me is no dvd so do you expect us to pay for a dvd as well for those that want one? From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 21:50:28 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:50:28 +0100 Subject: WWDC: Lion revealed, will ship in July for $30 In-Reply-To: <26AA245F-44B9-424F-A646-2699F1B9D515@gmail.com> References: <26AA245F-44B9-424F-A646-2699F1B9D515@gmail.com> Message-ID: <71864CE8-5493-446A-BFDB-F3EDFEF53FBA@gmail.com> No I think or would assume? that they will put the installer on your hard drive that makes sense, right? On 6 Jun 2011, at 21:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: > WWDC: Lion revealed, will ship in July for $30 > > After a brief presentation on Lion's new features at Monday's Worldwide Developers Conference keynote, Apple announced that the new OS would be shipping in July for just $30, and available solely from the Mac App Store. > > > http://bit.ly/iq2SWe > > The thign that bugs me is no dvd so do you expect us to pay for a dvd as well for those that want one? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Mon Jun 6 22:00:41 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:00:41 -0300 Subject: Apple - OS X Lion - Over 250 new features. Read about all of them. Message-ID: <546461CF305C413280C7BBAD37965785@MainComputer> Hi Folks: For those who are interested: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html#accessibility From moriond at mac.com Mon Jun 6 22:00:54 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:00:54 -1000 Subject: WWDC: Lion revealed, will ship in July for $30 In-Reply-To: <71864CE8-5493-446A-BFDB-F3EDFEF53FBA@gmail.com> References: <26AA245F-44B9-424F-A646-2699F1B9D515@gmail.com> <71864CE8-5493-446A-BFDB-F3EDFEF53FBA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1D20C19C-A9C6-4E69-92D3-F5561F898B3B@mac.com> Hi Sarah and Will, Most likely you will download the updated OS X 10.7 Lion from the Mac App store and then have the ability to either burn a recovery DVD or else create a bootable USB memory key for your system to support local restores. This is only speculation on my part, though. Cheers, Esther On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:50, william lomas wrote: > No I think or would assume? that they will put the installer on your hard drive that makes sense, right? > > On 6 Jun 2011, at 21:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> WWDC: Lion revealed, will ship in July for $30 >> >> After a brief presentation on Lion's new features at Monday's Worldwide Developers Conference keynote, Apple announced that the new OS would be shipping in July for just $30, and available solely from the Mac App Store. >> >> http://bit.ly/iq2SWe >> >> The thign that bugs me is no dvd so do you expect us to pay for a dvd as well for those that want one? From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 22:09:47 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 17:09:47 -0400 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <48A0E7EA-07CD-4CDA-8010-3AF30CC52E4D@gmail.com> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> <41568B29-1E62-4511-8CC6-744C5D98486F@mac-access.net> <9692AD65-75FB-4D7D-8F70-FD2AF6A56F06@gmail.com> <027BE048-C179-4392-B64E-D885E7D770A6@gmail.com> <1EF72291-DCB6-412A-95C4-9FD2933DA095@mac-access.net> <48A0E7EA-07CD-4CDA-8010-3AF30CC52E4D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <328C60BC-75B4-47E1-BBAF-5F2837EE36B4@gmail.com> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piubpwiqubf06/event/ Jonathan C. Cohn joncohn at cox.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 22:25:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:25:12 -0700 Subject: WWDC: Lion revealed, will ship in July for $30 In-Reply-To: <71864CE8-5493-446A-BFDB-F3EDFEF53FBA@gmail.com> References: <26AA245F-44B9-424F-A646-2699F1B9D515@gmail.com> <71864CE8-5493-446A-BFDB-F3EDFEF53FBA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2DB8B025-F972-4A0E-B757-B9928B2BDBD9@gmail.com> They will, but as a separate partition but if you get a new hard drive due to system failure or upgrade, then what? Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:50 PM, william lomas wrote: > No I think or would assume? that they will put the installer on your hard drive that makes sense, right? > > On 6 Jun 2011, at 21:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> WWDC: Lion revealed, will ship in July for $30 >> >> After a brief presentation on Lion's new features at Monday's Worldwide Developers Conference keynote, Apple announced that the new OS would be shipping in July for just $30, and available solely from the Mac App Store. >> >> >> http://bit.ly/iq2SWe >> >> The thign that bugs me is no dvd so do you expect us to pay for a dvd as well for those that want one? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 22:26:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:26:18 -0700 Subject: WWDC: Lion revealed, will ship in July for $30 In-Reply-To: <1D20C19C-A9C6-4E69-92D3-F5561F898B3B@mac.com> References: <26AA245F-44B9-424F-A646-2699F1B9D515@gmail.com> <71864CE8-5493-446A-BFDB-F3EDFEF53FBA@gmail.com> <1D20C19C-A9C6-4E69-92D3-F5561F898B3B@mac.com> Message-ID: lol! We'll see. I do intend to upgrade. but question how do I make a bootable dvd? if i can find a dvr in my house? lol! or I might do that flash drive trick if I have foom on my studio flash drive. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 6, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah and Will, > > Most likely you will download the updated OS X 10.7 Lion from the Mac App store and then have the ability to either burn a recovery DVD or else create a bootable USB memory key for your system to support local restores. This is only speculation on my part, though. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:50, william lomas wrote: > >> No I think or would assume? that they will put the installer on your hard drive that makes sense, right? >> >> On 6 Jun 2011, at 21:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> WWDC: Lion revealed, will ship in July for $30 >>> >>> After a brief presentation on Lion's new features at Monday's Worldwide Developers Conference keynote, Apple announced that the new OS would be shipping in July for just $30, and available solely from the Mac App Store. >>> >>> http://bit.ly/iq2SWe >>> >>> The thign that bugs me is no dvd so do you expect us to pay for a dvd as well for those that want one? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Jun 6 22:29:25 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:29:25 +0100 Subject: WWDC: Lion revealed, will ship in July for $30 In-Reply-To: <71864CE8-5493-446A-BFDB-F3EDFEF53FBA@gmail.com> References: <26AA245F-44B9-424F-A646-2699F1B9D515@gmail.com> <71864CE8-5493-446A-BFDB-F3EDFEF53FBA@gmail.com> Message-ID: i can't wait for lion as i want all the voices. looking forward to it. Ian McNamara From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 22:36:20 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:36:20 -0700 Subject: Notes from WWDC Message-ID: <4DDB81BA-DA8F-4590-9B5A-145FFA0B820F@gmail.com> Hi Folks, I got this off of another list. I apologize if some have already seen it. Live Coverage - Worldwide Developers Conference 2011 This page will update automatically, no need to reload. The keynote is due to start in 2 minutes. The keynote is due to start shortly, updates will be posted as they become available. Live coverage of the WWDC 2011 Keynote happening here. Seated at the keynote, tons of people are still filing in. Interesting observation: People nearby are talking about Apple just turning off the WWDC WiFi. Projector screens showing Apple logos. Nothing exciting happening yet. Presentation will being shortly. Asking for devices to be in silent mode. People waving for cameras, being shown on the projectors. Maybe not! Little Richard playing. Crowd seems very lively. Projectors showing cameras still slowly panning through the audience. Very packed, sitting super snug in these rows of chairs. It seems like they've put more rows in here since last year? Crowd cheering. Steve is taking the stage. Standing ovation. Thanking everyone for coming. Someone shouts, "I love you!" Steve sounds... exasperated. Weirdly quiet and not as energetic. Going over WWDC stats now, talking about how fast it sold out. 5,200 people here, tons of Apple folks floating around. "Today we're going to talk about software." Crowd barely cheers for Phil, seems everyone taken off guard by Steve. "The mac is doing incredibly well, our customer base continues to grow." 54m active Mac users and growing. 28% Mac growth, -1% PC growth. Mac has outgrown the industry every for the past 5 years. Citing MacBook Air as example of great Mac. 3/4 of Macs shipped today are laptops. "Great not because of hardware, but because of software." OS X launched 10 years ago, built on solid unix foundation. Showing screenshots of OS X when it launched 10 years ago, crowd cheering. Showing screens of how it is now, "evolved." "Where do we take it next?" 250 new features in Lion! Only 10 features being shown today of this fat Lion. Multi-Touch Gestures Discussing how they've learned from iOS, and applying that to everything in Lion. Showing gestures, remarkably similar to iOS. Swipe, pinch, etc. Scrollbars disappear, much like iOS. 2. Full Screen Applications "Really important for notebooks." Lion has a standard method for full screen apps. Swipe gesture allows you to get back to your desktop. More than one full screen app running at a time, a swipe gets you between them. Seems cool. Showing various Apple apps running full screen, look basically how you would expect. 3. Mission Control "The best feature of Lion." Demoing all these new features. Sarai UI looks very clean with no scroll bars. Everyhing behaves like iOS. Gestures now allow you to swipe through all the Safari history, looks very useful. Full screen apps can be switched very quickly with gestures. Photo Booth can track your face now! "Targeted facial enhancements." Can actively make your eyes huge, for instance. This seems like a weird thing to spend time on at WWDC. Now showing how easy it is to get back and forth between windows using the mission control three finger gesture. Going through all these window control gestures. Spaces can be created and managed through Mission Control, easy dragging and dropping. Seems very flexible. Can easily delete spaces, which sends all the windows in that space back to your main desktop. Now going over the Mac App Store. As an aside, all the icons for all of these things have had the same brushed aluminum look as the iCloud logo. In the last 6 months, the Mac App Store has become the #1 software channel to get Mac applications. Going over developers who have brought apps to the Mac App Store and how well they've been doing, some developers doubling (or more) their revenue. Mentioning other success stories. Mac App Store is built into Lion. In-app purchases will be available in Lion Mac App Store. Push notifications as well as Sandboxing for testing. Showing LaunchPad, which is initiated using a gesture to show an iOS-like display of icons you can page through. Everything shown so far looks like iOS running on a Mac. Can also make folders using these icons. Next feature: Resume, instantly resume where you were in an application after you quit it. Even works system wide, when you reboot all of your windows and apps return how they were. Crowd claps for reboot resume. Lion auto saves basically everything. Which allows for reverting to all sorts of things. Showing reverting a document. Also allows for basic versioning. Only stores the difference between revisions, making it space efficient. Version control of documents look just like Time Machine. Demonstrating all this now. LaunchPad first, showing the instant view of all the apps installed on this Mac. Seems like they're spending a LOT of time going over the features THEN demonstrating them again. This isn't flowing like a normal Apple keynote. Showing now how icons can be re-arranged in LaunchPad just like iOS. Now going over all the previously mentioned document control and versioning features. Demonstrating how Pages works with the new resume functionality, so detailed that selected text is even still selected. Now showing how the timeline works again, just like Time Machine. Meager applause from showing that things can be copied/pasted and dragged between different versions of documents. AirDrop - new document sharing method. "No one has done better than good ol' Sneaker Net," Peer to peer wifi-based network. You can see yourself, and people around you also running air drop. Sending files just amounts to dragging to the icons of other computers. Recipient gets a prompt, confirms they want it, and it downloads to your downloads folder. NEW VERSION OF MAIL! New design, multi-column view. Looks a lot like the iPad client, search is also improved. Looks a lot more automatic in regards to helping you intelligently search. Crowd claps for this new search method. Also, conversation view in mail. Attachments even shown in-line with conversation view. Now demonstrating mail. Search actually looks fairly intelligent. Even suggests subject lines that might apply to a few key presses. Searches can also be combined easily, looks super quick. Showing conversation view, crowd likes it. Clapping. Mail demo over. Now showing a slide with tons of different additional features, windows migration, filevault 2, lion server addon, facetime built in, etc. Server isn't another OS it's just apps you can run on top of Lion. Showing new development API's that allow devs to utilize things shown in these Apple apps. Lion available only on Mac App Store 4Gb Buy once. Install on all macs like all Mac app store apps. $29.99 New dev preview today. Available for everyone else in July Scott Forstall taking the stage for iOS5. Going over quick update for iOS, to date, sold over 200 million iOS devices. That makes iOS the #1 mobile operating system with 44% of the market. Adium "An amazing product." Presumably including 1 and 2 in that stat. "An incredible lineup of iOS devices." 15 billion songs sold on the iTunes music store. #1 retailer of music in the world. iBook Store launched a year ago, six major publishers signed up. 130 million books downloaded. App Store - Size and momentum hard to fathom. 425,000 apps. 90,000 made specifically for the iPad. Thanking developers for making them. 14 billion downloads so far from the App Store. In less than 3 years. "Amazing." Developers well rewarded, Apple has paid out $2.5b+ to developers. Apps cover every genre, showing a few different apps now. "Incredibly addictive games." Showing Tiny Wings and HBO Go. X-Ray apps. Apps have even been FDA and FAA approved for specialized uses. Customer pool of 225 million accounts with credit cards and one click purchasing. iOS 5! Crowd clapping. "Major Release" "Incredible for developers and customers." 1500 new API's 200 new features. Walking us through 10 1. Notifications. Crowd goes wild. Showing how bad they are now. Pushed more than 100b push notifications so far. "Scaled beautifully" Better UI incoming. Current notifications interrupt you. Also, nonsensical in the lock screen. When you unlock, the list isn't persistent if you have a ton of notifications. New solution: Notification Center Single place which combines all notifications. Can get to it anytime from anywhere by swiping down from the top. UI looks rad, crowd clapping. Even shows stocks and weather. Notifications no longer interrupt, you get an animation from the top. Has a cool animation too, like a cube rolling down from the top. Lock screen improved, much more information shown. Can swipe across lock screen on a particular notification to go directly to the app it came from. Demonstrating now. Swiping text message takes you right to the text. Swiping down brings you back to the notification center, swiping up makes it go away. Stock ticker scrolls across top. Can tap an X to clear notifications. "That is notification center." #2 - News Stand Magazines and newspapers? Most publishers onboards with subscriptions already. National Geographic, Spin, etc. Showing tons of magazines available. Nothing yet on how this ties into news stand. New listing in App Store that combines all of these newspapers and magazines. News Stand looks like iBooks but is specifically for magazines and newspapers. Background downloads grab new issues, sounds similar to how the Kindle works. Downloads automatically and can be read offline. #3 - Twitter 1 billion tweets sent per week (as an aside, Apple has updated icloud.com'd DNS so it now points to apple.com/icloud - nothing there yet) Even easier to use Twitter now. Built into iPhone. Single sign on stored in settings. Apps that use Twitter can use this with user permission. Twitter integrated into Apple apps like Camera. Tweet UI looks cool inside of Camera. Crowd clapping. Can also tweet articles from safari, videos from youtube, locations from maps. Contacts integrated with Twitter, grabs photos for contacts. #4 - Safari 2/3 of all mobile web browsing is done on Safari. iOS 5 - Safari even better. Safari Reader Looks like instapaper Even parses through multiple pages to a single story. Strips ads, etc. Can now just email story content along with link. "Works great on iPad and iPhone."'Reading list allows you to quickly save stories to read later. Reading list is synched somehow across multiple devices. New Safari has tabbed browsing. Showing how tabbed browsing works. "lightning fast" to switch between tabs Showing how reader nullifies reviews and other content that makes you click through tons of pages. Not sure how happy webmasters will be about this, it looks VERY automatic. Reading list works very simple, much like bookmarking. Showing how easy it is to tweet within Safari. #5- Reminders Built in list making app. Reminders apps allows for storage of multiple lists, with dates to remind you. Can even assign location, "Remind me to call my wife when I leave the convention today." Reminds you when you cross a "geo-fence". Checkboxes for "when I arrive" and "when I leave" based on the location you send. set, not send #6 - Camera iPhone camera is the most popular camera on a phone, and will soon be the most popular camera overall. Way faster, lock screen shortcut to get to the camera. double tap home button, tap camera icon Even if the passcode is set, you can't see anything else. Volume up to take photos. Crowd laughs/cheers. optional grid lines pinch to zoom hold finger to auto-focus and auto-exposure lock in addition to tapping Can now edit them from iPhone crop and rotate (FINALLY) red eye reduction auto-enhance from iPhoto #7 - Mail "One of the most used applications" rich text formatting control indentation draggable addresses Flagging as well. Search entire messages. Can swipe the inbox in and out in iPad portrait mode. S/MIME now supported. Demonstrating these features. Oh also, system-wide dictionary like iBooks, showing how this works in Mail. Shows up similar to how copy/paste UI works. Another system-wide feature shown: keyboard enhancements, can drag keyboard up, spits like an ergonomic keyboard, and is smaller for thumb typing this setting is persistent for all apps #8 - PC FREE!!! crowd cheering Projector showing crowd cheering, except one curmudgeon sitting there with arms crossed haha "We're living in a post-PC world." Lots of customers saying they want an iPad or iPhone as their only device. Now take your iPhone out of the box, instead of plug into itunes you just see "welcome" with an unlock. setup and activate directly from device software updates are now over the air Delta updates Just download what changed. "What are the reason people go back to a computer? Let's add that to iOS." i.e. creating and deleting calendars This is all going to be perfect for grandparents that got iPads for gifts, everything seems super easy. #9 - Game Center! "iOS is the most popular gaming platform on the planet." 50 million unique game center users. crowd barely claps? "Xbox live around 8 years, they have around 30m users." Even better in iOS , adding photos/avatars achievements points friends of friends recommended friends game discovery purchase/download directly from game center. Turn-based games now supported on OS level. #10 - iMessage Crowd "ooo" iMessage is a new messaging service between all iOS 5 customers. No mention of other protocols. Text messages, photos, videos, contacts, group messaging. Shows delivery receipts, read receipts, typing indication. Pushed to all devices, pick up conversation from iPhone to iPad. Supported via 3G and WiFi. Now demonstrating. Also seems to be showing this as a demonstration of the alerts as well. Alert isn't interrupting playing of Cut the Rope. Shows read receipts inline, crowd clapping. Photos and video are sent in "high quality" Looks just like iChat. Brief overview now of the 10 features they just went over. "Just 10 of the more than 200 new user features." AirPlay Mirroring!!! Mirror iPad 2 to television wirelessly WIFI SYNC TO ITUNES crowd goes nuts When charging at night, will find iTunes, back up and sync. new multitasking gestures Significant enhancements for developers including Core Image. "When are you getting it?" Developer seed today. iOS 5 shipping this fall. Supports iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPad and iPad 2, 3rd and 4th generation iPod touch. "And that is iOS 5" Steve back on stage for iCloud. "I get to talk about iCloud." Talking about how the PC was the hub for your digital life, you put all your media on your computer. This worked well for the better part of 10 years. Devices have changed, so everything now has photos and video. Talking about how it's a hassle to "acquire" a song, and sync all your devices to get everything on it. "Keeping these devices in sync is driving us crazy." Digital hub being moved to the cloud. All devices can talk to the cloud whenever they want. Things on iPhone sent to cloud immediately, then pushed down to other devices automatically. Steve sounds much more energetic than he did when he opened the keynote, by the way. "Some people think a cloud is just a hard disk in the sky." "We think it's way more than that." iCloud stores content in cloud, wirelessly pushes to all devices. Completely integrated with apps!! Everything happens automatically. "It just works." 'WHy should we believe them, they're the ones who brought us MobileMe?" Crowd goes nuts. Showing how contact is all updated across all devices. Contacts and calendars stored in the cloud. Calendar sharing also added. Shared calendars also pushed out. Mobile Me ceases to exist, mail contacts and calendar is now free. Three more apps in iCloud universe. The first is the App Store, you can see full purchase history on all devices. iBooks also plays nice with iCloud, syncs progress between devices. "It all just works." Wirelessly backup devices to iCloud. Once daily, "a lot of your important content" updated to the cloud. On a new phone, just type in Apple ID and password, everything automatically loaded. Backup music, apps, books, camera roll, device settings, app data. "We couldn't stop there." Three new apps: Documents in the cloud. Pages document automatically updated and stored in the cloud. Can edit a document in pages, gets pushed to iCloud, then edit on iPad. This functionality in pages, numbers, and keynote. Versions released last week have those in it already...? Now demonstrating how this all works. File transferring seems totally automatic and effortless. Showing how you can tweak a document in pages, gets saved back to iCloud. Immediately pushed back down to iPad. Steve talks about how they've been working for 10 years to get rid of the file storage system. With iCloud it seems to be entirely removed. App manages presentation of its own documents. Apps can store documents in iCloud, documents pushed automatically, updates on all devices when changed on any device. iCloud Storage API's!!! Crowd goes crazy, whistling even. Works on Macs and PC's too. "We thiink this is going to be pretty big." "Photo Stream" - Bring the cloud to photos. Photo Stream works just like documents, but your camera roll gets uploaded to the cloud then sent to everything else. Can also import photos, then upload to the cloud and push to everything else. Steve stresses this is all built right into the apps "so there's nothing new to learn" On the mac it's built into iPhoto. "On the PC they don't have a photos app, so we use the pictures folder." Buit into Apple TV as well. Last 1000 photos are stored in the cloud. on iOS devices All photos are stored on the Mac/PC Stored for 30 days on iCloud, so iCloud doesn't warehouse your photos it just makes sure everything is synced it sounds like. Now being demonstrated. Taking photos with an iPhone. Photos already on iPad seconds later. (No WiFi issues this keynote it seems.) To save permanently, select, and save them to an album. Photos he just took are also on the Mac. Seems to work very well and seamlessly. Photos you take or import upload to iCloud, iCloud pushes to all devices, works over Wifi (curious they mention this and not 3G?) Devices store last 1,000 photos, macs and PC's store all photos. Last but not least, iTunes in the cloud. (This doesn't seem like a "one more thing") Steve discusses the hassles of syncing music. Songs you've already bought show up in a purchase history. Look at it by all songs, recent songs, artist can download to your device by album, or by individual song. Any music can be re-downloaded to any device for no additional charge. "First time we've seen this in the music industry." Automatic download switch, if you buy a song on your Mac in iTunes it gets pushed to mobile devices and vice versa. Demonstrating this now. They seem to specifically referring to this as "downloading" and not "streaming." Showing how iTunes in the cloud downloads to multiple devices. Showing side by side iPhone and iPad, as soon as a song is purchased on the iPhone it appears on the iPad. Showing side by side iPhone and iPad, as soon as a song is purchased on the iPhone it appears on the iPad. Music purchased from iTunes, high quality, up to 10 devices. All of the previously mentioned services are... FREE iCloud stores your content and wirelessly pushes to all your devices. Everything happens automatically. "It just works." To get iCloud, all you have to do is type in your Apple ID and password in iOS 5. iCloud can be disabled, but it's on by default. 5GB of free storage for mail, docs, backups. Purchased music, apps, and books don't count towards that. Photo stream isn't counted either. "When can you get your hands on this?" TODAY Developer beta today. iTunes in the cloud available today on iOS 4.3 Available today on (specifically mentions) the iPhone 4. ONE MORE THING!!! ONE MORE THING!!! ~ONE MORE THING~ iTunes in the cloud, discussing music you've ripped yourself. Deal with it- 1. Sync new devices via WiFi or cable. 2. Buy the songs you'll miss on iTunes. 3. iTunes Match service iTunes match uses the fact that they've got 18m songs in the music store. Chances are they've got the songs in the iTunes store that you've ripped. Same benefits as music purchased from iTunes...? Takes minutes, not weeks. Library is scanned and matched. Any songs that remain, you can upload. iTunes matched songs upgraded to 256kbps AAC DRM-free iTunes match - $24.99 a year Showing a chart how this compares to competitors. Apple charging one flat price, even for "20,000 songs." "Most of our customers won't need this, but those who do, it's an industry-leading offering let's put it that way." "If you don't think we're serious about this, you're wrong." Showing construction of third datacenter in North Carolina. "It's as eco-friendly as you can make a datacenter." Showing massive scale. Server racks look like something out of a sci-fi movie. clearly not using xserve hardware Wrapping up keynote now, going over WWDC stats. Keynote over, crowd cheering. That's all folks! Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind john at macfortheblind.com http://www.macfortheblind.com AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: http://www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at http://www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john at macfortheblind.com From moriond at mac.com Mon Jun 6 22:45:20 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:45:20 -1000 Subject: WWDC: Lion revealed, will ship in July for $30 In-Reply-To: References: <26AA245F-44B9-424F-A646-2699F1B9D515@gmail.com> <71864CE8-5493-446A-BFDB-F3EDFEF53FBA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ian, On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:29, Ian McNamara wrote: > i can't wait for lion as i want all the voices. looking forward to it. Yes, that's the question: how are all those voices going to be integrated with Mac OS X and VoiceOver? I'm particularly curious about the voices that don't use regular Roman or alphabetic characters. Does this mean that VoiceOver will automatically recognize and announce Greek characters even if you are not using a Greek voice, for example? And what about support for Chinese? That's one of the new voices. How are you going to input text? (This issue came up for discussion by an iPhone user in Singapore last year.) At present, on the iOS devices, you can use the voice recognition features to transcribe your spoken text (e.g., Dragon Dictation or Google Translation app support coopted to transcribe what you speak to text). This is tricky, because there are multiple words with similar sounds. However, it can be made to work. And it should work for languages with different writing orientation (e.g., if you dictate in Arabic, the transcribed text flows from left to right). No clue about what will happen with languages such as Hebrew, since that's not supported for speech under iOS. Cheers, Esther From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jun 6 22:53:11 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:53:11 +0100 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <328C60BC-75B4-47E1-BBAF-5F2837EE36B4@gmail.com> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> <41568B29-1E62-4511-8CC6-744C5D98486F@mac-access.net> <9692AD65-75FB-4D7D-8F70-FD2AF6A56F06@gmail.com> <027BE048-C179-4392-B64E-D885E7D770A6@gmail.com> <1EF72291-DCB6-412A-95C4-9FD2933DA095@mac-access.net> <48A0E7EA-07CD-4CDA-8010-3AF30CC52E4D@gmail.com> <328C60BC-75B4-47E1-BBAF-5F2837EE36B4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you Jonathan On 6 Jun 2011, at 22:09, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piubpwiqubf06/event/ > > > Jonathan C. Cohn > joncohn at cox.net > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Jun 6 22:53:21 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:53:21 -1000 Subject: Notes from WWDC In-Reply-To: <4DDB81BA-DA8F-4590-9B5A-145FFA0B820F@gmail.com> References: <4DDB81BA-DA8F-4590-9B5A-145FFA0B820F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <046A494F-208F-4D00-946D-8A681FD70A3B@mac.com> Hi all, On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:36, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hi Folks, > I got this off of another list. I apologize if some have already seen it. > > > Live Coverage - Worldwide Developers Conference 2011 As Jon has posted the link to the streaming video of the WWDC in his earlier message (Thanks, Jon), you can watch this yourself: http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piubpwiqubf06/event/ To give proper attribution to the notes that Sarah posted, they were from the Macrumors Live Blog coverage of the WWDC that S?ren posted to another list. Cheers, Esther From lmumford at uga.edu Mon Jun 6 22:41:49 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:41:49 +0000 Subject: mail help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> Much thanks Carolyn! I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? Again I appreciate your help, Linda On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > > Hi Linda: > Sounds as though your tracking settings may have been compromised. I went into voiceover utility and copied my settings under the Navigation category, in case a comparison would be helpful. > These are just my arbitrary settings to some degree, and they may not reflect the default. But, they might give you a clue. > > The other thing is you might be inadvertently affecting your trackpad. I often turn my trackpad commander off when in mail. > > Hope this helps. Take care and below my signature are the settings. > > Carolyn Haas > > , > Keyboard focused item: initial position of voiceover cursor selected > keyboard focus follows voiceover cursor checked > voiceover cursor follows keyboard focus checked > Insertion point follows voiceover cursor checked > voiceover cursor follows insertion point: checked > Follows voiceover cursor: Mouse cursor > allow cursor wrapping: unchecked > Skip redundant labels: checked > automatically interact when using tab key: unchecked > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lavendar at bell.net Mon Jun 6 23:09:34 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:09:34 -0400 Subject: Accessible cryptic crossword In-Reply-To: References: <89928839-1E94-4E59-98CF-CF06D79BD545@anarchie.org.uk> <0254C8D5-2A62-4C2D-A55E-F752C4AF9A7C@gmail.com> <4D19AE9B-529E-404E-AEBD-DF7C575ABAEA@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: thanks Ann! I was hitting vo shift f 5, no wonder it wasn't working! blush! Cait, seriously behind in emails! Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net On May 15, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Caitlyn, > > You don't need mousekeys turned on to do the cryptic crossword. Just remember the command to bring the mouse to the VO cursor (VO-Command-F5). > > Cheers, > > Anne > > On 15 May 2011, at 19:33, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > >> Anne, >> >> Thanks for these great instructions! >> >> Just one question, though, do you have to have mouse keys turned on? >> >> Thanks, >> Caitlyn >> >> On May 6, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello D?nal and Will, >>> >>> First, here's the link to the crossword page: >>> >>> Use the web rotor to find the cryptic crossword for today and choose the standard version. >>> >>> Once on the correct page, use the rotor to find Heading level 4, Across or Down. >>> Below the heading is a list of clues you can interact with. When you have an answer, interact once and focus on the clue number, bring the mouse and press VO-Space bar. You'll land on the correct place to start typing. You'll be moved automatically to the next square, but if you make a mistake, you can use the arrow keys alone to move from square to square (left and right for the across clues, up and down for the down clues). >>> >>> Before entering a clue, set a hotspot so that you can get back to the list of clues quickly. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> On 6 May 2011, at 18:57, william lomas wrote: >>> >>>> yes please anne I like crosswords, to >>>> >>>> On 6 May 2011, at 17:45, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I love cryptic crosswords and especially the Guardian crossword, so I'm really pleased to find that the standard version of the daily Guardian crossword is completely accessible with VO. This goes for the quick crossword, too. I can actually do the crossword online. If anyone is interested in this, I'll happily explain how to do it, but I won't bore the list if no one else wants to know. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From moriond at mac.com Mon Jun 6 23:13:05 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 12:13:05 -1000 Subject: Trackpad and Keyboard Commanders {was Re: mail help] In-Reply-To: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> References: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> Message-ID: <925E8675-4948-43BB-BA26-C34ECB4BC357@mac.com> Hi Linda, All these commanders can be turned on and off in the "Commanders" section of VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8). However, to turn TrackPad Commander off with VoiceOver, hold down the Control and Option keys, then place two fingers on the trackpad and rotate them counterclockwise in a rotor gesture. VoiceOver should tell you that TrackPad Commander is off. To turn it on, hold down the VO keys and make a clockwise rotor gesture with two fingers on the trackpad. Keyboard commander lets you custom define shortcut key combinations. A convenient example is getting the time announced by pressing the Right Option key+T. You can change the modifier key (from Option to something else) and the letter, and then choose the definition that you want to make a shortcut for by doing a VO-Space where the action is listed to bring up other menu options for selection. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:41, Linda Mumford wrote: > Much thanks Carolyn! > > I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? > Again I appreciate your help, > Linda From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 23:21:49 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:21:49 -0700 Subject: Notes from WWDC In-Reply-To: <046A494F-208F-4D00-946D-8A681FD70A3B@mac.com> References: <4DDB81BA-DA8F-4590-9B5A-145FFA0B820F@gmail.com> <046A494F-208F-4D00-946D-8A681FD70A3B@mac.com> Message-ID: Nice! Yeah the reading was quite interesting. I gues we'll see what happens in the nxt few months ey? Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 6, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi all, > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:36, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> I got this off of another list. I apologize if some have already seen it. >> >> >> Live Coverage - Worldwide Developers Conference 2011 > > > As Jon has posted the link to the streaming video of the WWDC in his earlier message (Thanks, Jon), you can watch this yourself: > > http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piubpwiqubf06/event/ > > To give proper attribution to the notes that Sarah posted, they were from the Macrumors Live Blog coverage of the WWDC that S?ren posted to another list. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chaas0217 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 23:22:53 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 16:22:53 -0600 Subject: mail help In-Reply-To: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> References: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> Message-ID: Hi Linda:Keyboard commander is probably something you want to leave enabled. It allows you to do special commands that you can map for your convenience. Far more than I can go into here. But, perhaps I can send you a little info to clarify that. The trackpad commander is what allows the multi-touch trackpad to perform some of the things you would otherwise use the keyboard for only better. For example, with trackpad commander enabled, you can do a two finger swipe to the right, and then a two-finger swipe down to have the text continuous read. To turn trackpad commander on, you place two fingers on the trackpad, while holding control and option you do a roter-type gesture clockwise You should hear a sound, and VO should either say, "trackpad commander is on," or "already on." Conversely, the same gesture counter-clock turns the trackpad commander off. Hope I haven't confused you further. Take care Carolyn. On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: > Much thanks Carolyn! > > I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? > Again I appreciate your help, > Linda > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> >> Hi Linda: >> Sounds as though your tracking settings may have been compromised. I went into voiceover utility and copied my settings under the Navigation category, in case a comparison would be helpful. >> These are just my arbitrary settings to some degree, and they may not reflect the default. But, they might give you a clue. >> >> The other thing is you might be inadvertently affecting your trackpad. I often turn my trackpad commander off when in mail. >> >> Hope this helps. Take care and below my signature are the settings. >> >> Carolyn Haas >> >> , >> Keyboard focused item: initial position of voiceover cursor selected >> keyboard focus follows voiceover cursor checked >> voiceover cursor follows keyboard focus checked >> Insertion point follows voiceover cursor checked >> voiceover cursor follows insertion point: checked >> Follows voiceover cursor: Mouse cursor >> allow cursor wrapping: unchecked >> Skip redundant labels: checked >> automatically interact when using tab key: unchecked >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 23:41:10 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:41:10 -0700 Subject: keyboard and trackpad commander In-Reply-To: References: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> Message-ID: <9F1B0018-7E64-4395-946B-9F5129C5EC24@gmail.com> lol. I keep forgetting I can use that thing. I should utilize it more. My bf pointed that out one day and he does not even own a mac yet lol! It seems sometimes I can do things with a flick of the hand thenI can with the keyboard. Interact with a field then type in to it with my keyboard. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:22 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Linda:Keyboard commander is probably something you want to leave enabled. It allows you to do special commands that you can map for your convenience. Far more than I can go into here. But, perhaps I can send you a little info to clarify that. > > The trackpad commander is what allows the multi-touch trackpad to perform some of the things you would otherwise use the keyboard for only better. For example, with trackpad commander enabled, you can do a two finger swipe to the right, and then a two-finger swipe down to have the text continuous read. > > To turn trackpad commander on, you place two fingers on the trackpad, while holding control and option you do a roter-type gesture clockwise You should hear a sound, and VO should either say, "trackpad commander is on," or "already on." > Conversely, the same gesture counter-clock turns the trackpad commander off. > Hope I haven't confused you further. > Take care > > Carolyn. > On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: > >> Much thanks Carolyn! >> >> I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? >> Again I appreciate your help, >> Linda >> >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Linda: >>> Sounds as though your tracking settings may have been compromised. I went into voiceover utility and copied my settings under the Navigation category, in case a comparison would be helpful. >>> These are just my arbitrary settings to some degree, and they may not reflect the default. But, they might give you a clue. >>> >>> The other thing is you might be inadvertently affecting your trackpad. I often turn my trackpad commander off when in mail. >>> >>> Hope this helps. Take care and below my signature are the settings. >>> >>> Carolyn Haas >>> >>> , >>> Keyboard focused item: initial position of voiceover cursor selected >>> keyboard focus follows voiceover cursor checked >>> voiceover cursor follows keyboard focus checked >>> Insertion point follows voiceover cursor checked >>> voiceover cursor follows insertion point: checked >>> Follows voiceover cursor: Mouse cursor >>> allow cursor wrapping: unchecked >>> Skip redundant labels: checked >>> automatically interact when using tab key: unchecked >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Mon Jun 6 23:47:34 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Colin M) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 23:47:34 +0100 Subject: mail help In-Reply-To: References: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> Message-ID: Hi Linda! Just something you will need to do to help with the keyboard commands open vo utility with vo+f8 and you should be in the general items just scroll right until you get to [allow vo to be controlled by apple scripts] and if it is not checked then do so! This will help with the tell time command! Which you'll find in the table of commands after you have picked the keyboard commander tab under commanders in the categories table! Also after the keyboard tab you'll get that option to pick option key you want to use [it should be set on the right one by default] hth Colin On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:22, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Linda:Keyboard commander is probably something you want to leave enabled. It allows you to do special commands that you can map for your convenience. Far more than I can go into here. But, perhaps I can send you a little info to clarify that. > > The trackpad commander is what allows the multi-touch trackpad to perform some of the things you would otherwise use the keyboard for only better. For example, with trackpad commander enabled, you can do a two finger swipe to the right, and then a two-finger swipe down to have the text continuous read. > > To turn trackpad commander on, you place two fingers on the trackpad, while holding control and option you do a roter-type gesture clockwise You should hear a sound, and VO should either say, "trackpad commander is on," or "already on." > Conversely, the same gesture counter-clock turns the trackpad commander off. > Hope I haven't confused you further. > Take care > > Carolyn. > On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: > >> Much thanks Carolyn! >> >> I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? >> Again I appreciate your help, >> Linda >> >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Linda: >>> Sounds as though your tracking settings may have been compromised. I went into voiceover utility and copied my settings under the Navigation category, in case a comparison would be helpful. >>> These are just my arbitrary settings to some degree, and they may not reflect the default. But, they might give you a clue. >>> >>> The other thing is you might be inadvertently affecting your trackpad. I often turn my trackpad commander off when in mail. >>> >>> Hope this helps. Take care and below my signature are the settings. >>> >>> Carolyn Haas >>> >>> , >>> Keyboard focused item: initial position of voiceover cursor selected >>> keyboard focus follows voiceover cursor checked >>> voiceover cursor follows keyboard focus checked >>> Insertion point follows voiceover cursor checked >>> voiceover cursor follows insertion point: checked >>> Follows voiceover cursor: Mouse cursor >>> allow cursor wrapping: unchecked >>> Skip redundant labels: checked >>> automatically interact when using tab key: unchecked >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Tue Jun 7 00:05:32 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Colin M) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 00:05:32 +0100 Subject: Trackpad and Keyboard Commanders {was Re: mail help] In-Reply-To: <925E8675-4948-43BB-BA26-C34ECB4BC357@mac.com> References: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> <925E8675-4948-43BB-BA26-C34ECB4BC357@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Esther! Can you change which modifier key you use! I thought you could only pick between left or right option key! And for any body interested I've just found out that each section of the categories table has a command+1, 2, 3, 4 , and so on! So if you want to get to the commanders fast just press command+8 and back to general press command+1 the others are listed in the window menu of the vo utility menu vo+m! On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:13, Esther wrote: > Hi Linda, > > All these commanders can be turned on and off in the "Commanders" section of VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8). However, to turn TrackPad Commander off with VoiceOver, hold down the Control and Option keys, then place two fingers on the trackpad and rotate them counterclockwise in a rotor gesture. VoiceOver should tell you that TrackPad Commander is off. To turn it on, hold down the VO keys and make a clockwise rotor gesture with two fingers on the trackpad. > > Keyboard commander lets you custom define shortcut key combinations. A convenient example is getting the time announced by pressing the Right Option key+T. You can change the modifier key (from Option to something else) and the letter, and then choose the definition that you want to make a shortcut for by doing a VO-Space where the action is listed to bring up other menu options for selection. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:41, Linda Mumford wrote: > >> Much thanks Carolyn! >> >> I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? >> Again I appreciate your help, >> Linda > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lmumford at uga.edu Tue Jun 7 00:37:53 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 23:37:53 +0000 Subject: Trackpad and Keyboard Commanders {was Re: mail help] In-Reply-To: <925E8675-4948-43BB-BA26-C34ECB4BC357@mac.com> References: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> <925E8675-4948-43BB-BA26-C34ECB4BC357@mac.com> Message-ID: <03BE7E42-21D5-4545-93EF-A99A0A5850ED@uga.edu> Thanks Esther! That helps a lot, and I was able to turn the trakpad commander on and off follwing your instructions. I am learning so much from this list! Linda On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Linda, > > All these commanders can be turned on and off in the "Commanders" section of VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8). However, to turn TrackPad Commander off with VoiceOver, hold down the Control and Option keys, then place two fingers on the trackpad and rotate them counterclockwise in a rotor gesture. VoiceOver should tell you that TrackPad Commander is off. To turn it on, hold down the VO keys and make a clockwise rotor gesture with two fingers on the trackpad. > > Keyboard commander lets you custom define shortcut key combinations. A convenient example is getting the time announced by pressing the Right Option key+T. You can change the modifier key (from Option to something else) and the letter, and then choose the definition that you want to make a shortcut for by doing a VO-Space where the action is listed to bring up other menu options for selection. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:41, Linda Mumford wrote: > >> Much thanks Carolyn! >> >> I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? >> Again I appreciate your help, >> Linda > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From solsticesinger at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 00:53:52 2011 From: solsticesinger at gmail.com (Shannon Dyer) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:53:52 -0400 Subject: Verbosity question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90965713-CD34-4829-B460-6CF6ACCBFB35@gmail.com> Luckily, this worked really well. It's no longer announcing the font size of every word I type, which is greatly appreciated. It does continue to tell me about the splitters, but I can totally live with that. Thank you so much for your assistance. So much fontness was beginning to drive me insane. Shannon On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hello Shannon. > > You can change Verbosity Settings by pressing VO (Control+Option) plus F8 to go to VoiceOver Utility. If you haven't got F1,F2, etc set to be used as standard function keys which is not enabled by default, you have to press Function + VO + F8 to access VoiceOver Utility. > Once you have done this, arrow down to Verbosity. > Press tab until you hear High Popup Button, and change it to either Medium or Low. > Then press Command Q to quit VoiceOver Utility. > Hope this helps. > Lewis. > On 6 Jun 2011, at 10:31, solsticesinger at gmail.com wrote: > >> Hi, all. >> >> I bought a MacBook yesterday. I notice that it's reading everything, way more than I'll ever want to know. For example, when I'm writing an email, it keeps announcing the font size. It's also telling me things about horizontal and vertical splitters. How can I make this stop? Any help is greatly appreciated. >> >> Shannon >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lmumford at uga.edu Tue Jun 7 01:14:47 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 00:14:47 +0000 Subject: mail help In-Reply-To: References: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> Message-ID: <27C350CF-6946-4469-9C56-A82F97AB17C5@uga.edu> Hi Carolyn, You haven't confused me at all, and I would very much appreciate any more information you could send me about the keyboard commander. I am finding all this absolutely fascinating and intellectually stimulating as well. My email address is: lmumford at uga.edu Much thanks, Linda On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:22 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Linda:Keyboard commander is probably something you want to leave enabled. It allows you to do special commands that you can map for your convenience. Far more than I can go into here. But, perhaps I can send you a little info to clarify that. > > The trackpad commander is what allows the multi-touch trackpad to perform some of the things you would otherwise use the keyboard for only better. For example, with trackpad commander enabled, you can do a two finger swipe to the right, and then a two-finger swipe down to have the text continuous read. > > To turn trackpad commander on, you place two fingers on the trackpad, while holding control and option you do a roter-type gesture clockwise You should hear a sound, and VO should either say, "trackpad commander is on," or "already on." > Conversely, the same gesture counter-clock turns the trackpad commander off. > Hope I haven't confused you further. > Take care > > Carolyn. > On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: > >> Much thanks Carolyn! >> >> I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? >> Again I appreciate your help, >> Linda >> >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Linda: >>> Sounds as though your tracking settings may have been compromised. I went into voiceover utility and copied my settings under the Navigation category, in case a comparison would be helpful. >>> These are just my arbitrary settings to some degree, and they may not reflect the default. But, they might give you a clue. >>> >>> The other thing is you might be inadvertently affecting your trackpad. I often turn my trackpad commander off when in mail. >>> >>> Hope this helps. Take care and below my signature are the settings. >>> >>> Carolyn Haas >>> >>> , >>> Keyboard focused item: initial position of voiceover cursor selected >>> keyboard focus follows voiceover cursor checked >>> voiceover cursor follows keyboard focus checked >>> Insertion point follows voiceover cursor checked >>> voiceover cursor follows insertion point: checked >>> Follows voiceover cursor: Mouse cursor >>> allow cursor wrapping: unchecked >>> Skip redundant labels: checked >>> automatically interact when using tab key: unchecked >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lmumford at uga.edu Tue Jun 7 00:59:13 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 23:59:13 +0000 Subject: mail help In-Reply-To: References: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> Message-ID: A big thank you to you too Colin! "Allow voice over to be controlled by apple scripts" wasn't checked, so I checked it and was very impressed to hear the date and time announced when I hit the right option key with the T... now I won't have any more excuses for losing track of the time while I'm on the computer! Linda On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Linda! > Just something you will need to do to help with the keyboard commands open vo utility with vo+f8 and you should be in the general items just scroll right until you get to [allow vo to be controlled by apple scripts] and if it is not checked then do so! > This will help with the tell time command! > Which you'll find in the table of commands after you have picked the keyboard commander tab under commanders in the categories table! > Also after the keyboard tab you'll get that option to pick option key you want to use [it should be set on the right one by default] > hth Colin > On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:22, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Linda:Keyboard commander is probably something you want to leave enabled. It allows you to do special commands that you can map for your convenience. Far more than I can go into here. But, perhaps I can send you a little info to clarify that. >> >> The trackpad commander is what allows the multi-touch trackpad to perform some of the things you would otherwise use the keyboard for only better. For example, with trackpad commander enabled, you can do a two finger swipe to the right, and then a two-finger swipe down to have the text continuous read. >> >> To turn trackpad commander on, you place two fingers on the trackpad, while holding control and option you do a roter-type gesture clockwise You should hear a sound, and VO should either say, "trackpad commander is on," or "already on." >> Conversely, the same gesture counter-clock turns the trackpad commander off. >> Hope I haven't confused you further. >> Take care >> >> Carolyn. >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: >> >>> Much thanks Carolyn! >>> >>> I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? >>> Again I appreciate your help, >>> Linda >>> >>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Linda: >>>> Sounds as though your tracking settings may have been compromised. I went into voiceover utility and copied my settings under the Navigation category, in case a comparison would be helpful. >>>> These are just my arbitrary settings to some degree, and they may not reflect the default. But, they might give you a clue. >>>> >>>> The other thing is you might be inadvertently affecting your trackpad. I often turn my trackpad commander off when in mail. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. Take care and below my signature are the settings. >>>> >>>> Carolyn Haas >>>> >>>> , >>>> Keyboard focused item: initial position of voiceover cursor selected >>>> keyboard focus follows voiceover cursor checked >>>> voiceover cursor follows keyboard focus checked >>>> Insertion point follows voiceover cursor checked >>>> voiceover cursor follows insertion point: checked >>>> Follows voiceover cursor: Mouse cursor >>>> allow cursor wrapping: unchecked >>>> Skip redundant labels: checked >>>> automatically interact when using tab key: unchecked >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Tue Jun 7 05:08:23 2011 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (Michael Fridey) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:08:23 +1000 Subject: mac games help. Message-ID: <45BEB4CE-E697-4962-AED0-A25B5488CE06@aapt.net.au> Hi folks can any one tell me if their is any other accessible games besides chess that work with voiceover. regards Michael. From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 11:34:22 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:34:22 +0100 Subject: My new keyboard Message-ID: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> Hello all. Just received my new Freedom i-Connex Bluetooth Keyboard. I love it! The keys are nice and large. Pairing failed the first time probably due to me waiting too long. But the second try was successful. In brief I am now able to use my iPod Touch more efficiently without much use of the touch screen. The only time I would need to use that is for double tap and holding, which is not available on the keyboard. But I love the fact I can completely control VoiceOver, as well as typing more efficiently. So yes, I would highly recommend this product not only because it's compatible with the iDevices; it is also compatible with any bluetooth-enabled smartphone, PC and maybe Mac. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jun 7 11:47:36 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:47:36 +0100 Subject: My new keyboard In-Reply-To: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> References: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Chris, I am pleased you like your keyboard, I purchased one a year ago, it is now in the drawer gathering dust as it is not a patch on the Apple keyboard. I just did not like the feel of the keys or liked the layout, and it feels very cheap and flimsy. The folding aspect is appealing though. Chris On 7 Jun 2011, at 11:34, chris hallsworth wrote: > Hello all. > Just received my new Freedom i-Connex Bluetooth Keyboard. I love it! The keys are nice and large. Pairing failed the first time probably due to me waiting too long. But the second try was successful. In brief I am now able to use my iPod Touch more efficiently without much use of the touch screen. The only time I would need to use that is for double tap and holding, which is not available on the keyboard. But I love the fact I can completely control VoiceOver, as well as typing more efficiently. > So yes, I would highly recommend this product not only because it's compatible with the iDevices; it is also compatible with any bluetooth-enabled smartphone, PC and maybe Mac. > Take care. > -- > > Chris Hallsworth > Sent from Thunderbird > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 11:53:47 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:53:47 +0100 Subject: My new keyboard In-Reply-To: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> References: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> Message-ID: hi chris how big is it as i am thinking of getting a blue tooth key board for my ipod and for when i get an iphone to. thanks Ian McNamara From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 7 12:01:24 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 21:01:24 +1000 Subject: My new keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <2F966028-963A-4988-8A6D-A63E4222BE99@internode.on.net> Well keyboards are one of those things aren't they , you either like them or you don't. I agree! the Apple keyboards are very nice to type on but I dare say some would consider them bulky but nevertheless I wouldn't be without the half dozen I have here, a couple of bluetooth boards, an Ipad dock keyboard, a couple of USB full-sized keyboards etc. I think the thing which really sets the Apple boards apart from their cousins are the large keys,nice and square and I have to wonder just how large a persons fingers would be before they became too large to type on the keys. On the other hand I just purchased a new Logitech keyboard, I still have my original Logitech Touch Keyboard I think its called and I've had that for what, must be more than ten years now, still feels wonderful to type on and still going strong. Anyway this new Logitech board is different from any other keyboard I've typed on, yep the "QWERTY" stuff is all the same but the layout has been rearranged, didn't like it at first but I can see advantages. The home, End, page up and Down keys are now smaller and they've been relocated to the top right-hand side of the board, yep out of the way if you want access to them quickly I agree however at least they're still on the board right above the number pad. This board also boasts a "FN" key and Logitech put it to good use by defining some useful convenient everyday type functions to some of the keys when used with "FN", such things as open URL etc. You can define your own of course and you have heaps of possibilities. The Logitech Keyboard is nothing special, its the cheapest of the range at less than $50.00 but its a nice solid plastic board and quite nice to type on though the keys are smaller than those on the Apple boards. And finally, can someone tell me the difference between a ""Gamers" keyboard and a standard keyboard? On 07/06/2011, at 8:47 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Chris, > > I am pleased you like your keyboard, I purchased one a year ago, it is now in the drawer gathering dust as it is not a patch on the Apple keyboard. I just did not like the feel of the keys or liked the layout, and it feels very cheap and flimsy. The folding aspect is appealing though. > > Chris > On 7 Jun 2011, at 11:34, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Hello all. >> Just received my new Freedom i-Connex Bluetooth Keyboard. I love it! The keys are nice and large. Pairing failed the first time probably due to me waiting too long. But the second try was successful. In brief I am now able to use my iPod Touch more efficiently without much use of the touch screen. The only time I would need to use that is for double tap and holding, which is not available on the keyboard. But I love the fact I can completely control VoiceOver, as well as typing more efficiently. >> So yes, I would highly recommend this product not only because it's compatible with the iDevices; it is also compatible with any bluetooth-enabled smartphone, PC and maybe Mac. >> Take care. >> -- >> >> Chris Hallsworth >> Sent from Thunderbird >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sadamahmed1992 at live.com Tue Jun 7 12:08:16 2011 From: sadamahmed1992 at live.com (sadam ahmed) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 21:08:16 +1000 Subject: VoiceOver and Pages on the iPhone/iPad/iPod. Message-ID: Evening all, i was just wondering if Pages works well with VoiceOver on Apple's mobile devices in terms of accessibility? i know it works very well on the Mac. Regards, Sadam. From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 12:13:42 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:13:42 +0100 Subject: My new keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4DEE07E6.30603@googlemail.com> Hi Ian. It's quite small actually. I was pleasantly surprised. I forgot to mention the board is dead responsive too. It is about a second from when I press a key to the appropriate action taken place. So very pleased about that as well. I also forgot to mention that it comes with a nice leather carrying case with a clip to protect the device from gathering dust. The board requires 2 AAA batteries which are readily available of course. Take care. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird On 07/06/2011 11:53, Ian McNamara wrote: > hi chris how big is it as i am thinking of getting a blue tooth key board for my ipod and for when i get an iphone to. > > thanks Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 12:19:35 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:19:35 +0100 Subject: My new keyboard In-Reply-To: <4DEE07E6.30603@googlemail.com> References: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> <4DEE07E6.30603@googlemail.com> Message-ID: cool sounds really good where do you get them from? I am thinking of getting a keyboard with a number pad on for my mac as i had a go on my friends a couple of weeks a go and it's sort of grown on me now. Ian McNamara From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 12:59:42 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:59:42 +0100 Subject: My new keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> <4DEE07E6.30603@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4DEE12AE.1090108@googlemail.com> Hi Ian. I got mine for ?50 from www.play.com. Take care. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird On 07/06/2011 12:19, Ian McNamara wrote: > cool sounds really good where do you get them from? I am thinking of getting a keyboard with a number pad on for my mac as i had a go on my friends a couple of weeks a go and it's sort of grown on me now. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From tsiegel at softcon.com Tue Jun 7 14:36:01 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:36:01 -0500 Subject: mac games help. In-Reply-To: <45BEB4CE-E697-4962-AED0-A25B5488CE06@aapt.net.au> References: <45BEB4CE-E697-4962-AED0-A25B5488CE06@aapt.net.au> Message-ID: On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Michael Fridey wrote: > Hi folks can any one tell me if their is any other accessible games > besides chess that work with voiceover. There are several that work with the mac and voiceover. On the softcon pages located at: http://mac.softcon.com you'll find several programs I've ported from other unix oses (on the unix pages) and you'll also find some other programs such as softcon dvd player and a few other things. One of those pages has games on it, including softcon yahtzee. Character based dungeon games like rogue, nethack, and the like don't work well with voiceover, because when moving from line to line, there's no way to stay in the same column, and just go to the next or previous line. Vo always goes back and reads the entire line, which makes these kinds of games not work well at all. There's also a sample game using sfml which I translated from visual basic using direct X to osx using sfml, and that can be found at: http://www.thesiegelsnest.us/mac/ It's kind of a junk page for random tidbits, but anyone is welcome to grab anything they want from the page and do what you like with it. I need to fix a link on the softcon pages that doesn't load, but ifyou hit that problem, just place a Index.html after the slash on the page in the browser address bar (that's index with a capital I, and the page should then load) until I get it fixed. hth. From moopiecurran at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 15:14:25 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:14:25 -0400 Subject: My new keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Is this keyboard rechargeable, I'm also thinking of getting this keyboard. Courtney On Jun 7, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > hi chris how big is it as i am thinking of getting a blue tooth key board for my ipod and for when i get an iphone to. > > thanks Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Tue Jun 7 15:50:33 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:50:33 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome; [Please Do Not Reply On List] Message-ID: <6EF8B1F8-E2AE-40D9-B93D-40CA3F68B839@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Mel, (no surname available) to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. 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Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 15:54:57 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 15:54:57 +0100 Subject: My new keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4DEE3BC1.8000503@googlemail.com> Hi all. No, but I suppose you could buy rechargeable AAA batteries and charge them using a regular wall charger that takes AAA batteries. Just a thought. Take care. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird On 07/06/2011 15:14, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Is this keyboard rechargeable, I'm also thinking of getting this keyboard. > Courtney > On Jun 7, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> hi chris how big is it as i am thinking of getting a blue tooth key board for my ipod and for when i get an iphone to. >> >> thanks Ian McNamara >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 15:57:54 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:57:54 +0100 Subject: My new keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi Chris. How much was it? I bought one from Amazon for ?22 and it wasn't the keyboard I expected. It was tiny, and it didn't fold down. It must be a different Freedom i-Connex Keyboard that I looked at. Regards. Lewis. On 7 Jun 2011, at 11:53, Ian McNamara wrote: > hi chris how big is it as i am thinking of getting a blue tooth key board for my ipod and for when i get an iphone to. > > thanks Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 15:58:44 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 15:58:44 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Feedback on iPod Touch 4th Generation Message-ID: <4DEE3CA4.8010205@googlemail.com> Hello all. I thought I would forward this and ask for your thoughts on my below suggestion. Take care. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Feedback on iPod Touch 4th Generation Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 14:36:23 +0100 From: chris hallsworth To: accessibility at apple.com Dear Apple Accessibility Team. I am writing to send feedback on the iPod Touch 4th Generation, which I acquired two weeks ago yesterday. I am very impressed with it. Your accessibility solutions are great. For example, using VoiceOver with the touch screen is fantastic and makes using the device as independently as possible. Since I am blind with light perception I rely on such accessibility features. Today I have acquired a bluetooth keyboard. I love it. It makes typing and navigation far more efficient than using the touch screen alone. I do however have a suggestion. Would it be possible to implement a keyboard command to simulate a double tap and hold? I don't see this as a big issue, however the less one can rely on the touch screen the better. My iOS version is 4.3.3. I am aware that iOS 5 will be coming out in the Autumn. That is the term Fall for UK residents like myself. I hear that there are accessibility improvements, like custom element labelling. So I am looking forward to that. I am glad to see the new OS is going to be compatible with my current model. Anyway, thank you very much for taking this suggestion into consideration. I hope you find my feedback useful. Yours Faithfully. Satisfied iPod Touch 4th Generation user. From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 16:01:20 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:01:20 +0100 Subject: My new keyboard In-Reply-To: <4DEE12AE.1090108@googlemail.com> References: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> <4DEE07E6.30603@googlemail.com> <4DEE12AE.1090108@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <064261F6-D9CA-4F5B-84E1-3455F9013A1D@googlemail.com> Hey Chris. I see you answered my first question. I am thinking of getting one too. Lewis. On 7 Jun 2011, at 12:59, chris hallsworth wrote: > Hi Ian. > I got mine for ?50 from www.play.com. > Take care. > > > Chris Hallsworth > Sent from Thunderbird > > On 07/06/2011 12:19, Ian McNamara wrote: >> cool sounds really good where do you get them from? I am thinking of getting a keyboard with a number pad on for my mac as i had a go on my friends a couple of weeks a go and it's sort of grown on me now. >> >> Ian McNamara >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 16:08:39 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 16:08:39 +0100 Subject: My new keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4DEE3EF7.5010206@googlemail.com> Hi Lewis. It cost me ?50 and I got it from www.play.com. I think the one you got was the i-Connex Mini. Not sure of the differences but I do know a mini version exists. Take care. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird On 07/06/2011 15:57, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Chris. > > How much was it? I bought one from Amazon for ?22 and it wasn't the keyboard I expected. It was tiny, and it didn't fold down. > It must be a different Freedom i-Connex Keyboard that I looked at. > Regards. > Lewis. > On 7 Jun 2011, at 11:53, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> hi chris how big is it as i am thinking of getting a blue tooth key board for my ipod and for when i get an iphone to. >> >> thanks Ian McNamara >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 16:25:09 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:25:09 +0100 Subject: Feedback on iPod Touch 4th Generation In-Reply-To: <4DEE3CA4.8010205@googlemail.com> References: <4DEE3CA4.8010205@googlemail.com> Message-ID: HI Chris. I think that was a very professional way of wording it! I'm sure Apple will listen to your feedback! :) Regards. Lewis. On 7 Jun 2011, at 15:58, chris hallsworth wrote: > Hello all. > I thought I would forward this and ask for your thoughts on my below suggestion. > Take care. > > > Chris Hallsworth > Sent from Thunderbird > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Feedback on iPod Touch 4th Generation > Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 14:36:23 +0100 > From: chris hallsworth > To: accessibility at apple.com > > Dear Apple Accessibility Team. > I am writing to send feedback on the iPod Touch 4th Generation, which I > acquired two weeks ago yesterday. I am very impressed with it. Your > accessibility solutions are great. For example, using VoiceOver with the > touch screen is fantastic and makes using the device as independently as > possible. Since I am blind with light perception I rely on such > accessibility features. > Today I have acquired a bluetooth keyboard. I love it. It makes typing > and navigation far more efficient than using the touch screen alone. I > do however have a suggestion. Would it be possible to implement a > keyboard command to simulate a double tap and hold? I don't see this as > a big issue, however the less one can rely on the touch screen the better. > My iOS version is 4.3.3. I am aware that iOS 5 will be coming out in the > Autumn. That is the term Fall for UK residents like myself. I hear that > there are accessibility improvements, like custom element labelling. So > I am looking forward to that. I am glad to see the new OS is going to be > compatible with my current model. > Anyway, thank you very much for taking this suggestion into consideration. > I hope you find my feedback useful. > Yours Faithfully. > Satisfied iPod Touch 4th Generation user. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 16:35:19 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 16:35:19 +0100 Subject: Need help with Mail on iPod Touch 4G Message-ID: <4DEE4537.8030403@googlemail.com> Hello all. Can anyone please help me make Mail easier to use on my iPod Touch 4G? I want to delete messages from my mailboxes, but all I appear to be able to do is select them one by one and choose move, then the trash folder, since my account is Gmail. Is there absolutely no way of selecting all mails at once and moving them in one go? If not, is there a free or paid app that is better than Mail and is of course VoiceOver accessible? Many thanks. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Tue Jun 7 16:52:24 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Colin M) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:52:24 +0100 Subject: mail help In-Reply-To: References: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> Message-ID: Hi Linda! Just one more thing! :] If you have already started to make your own keyboard shortcuts, one to avoid is to make one for Itunes! It will work but there is a clash with a Itunes command! If you have it set [for example] right option+i, you might find that some times when you press it a choose Itunes library window comes up! This is because if you launch Itunes [lets say from the doc] and then hold the option key down as it starts you will get that window! So it can happen with the shortcut! What I've done with my Itunes is moved it next to the finder in the doc! You can move items in the doc with option+command and either the left or right arrows! Vo will say what you are moving passed until you get the item where you want it! hth Colin! On 7 Jun 2011, at 00:59, Linda Mumford wrote: > A big thank you to you too Colin! "Allow voice over to be controlled by apple scripts" wasn't checked, so I checked it and was very impressed to hear the date and time announced when I hit the right option key with the T... now I won't have any more excuses for losing track of the time while I'm on the computer! > > Linda > On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi Linda! >> Just something you will need to do to help with the keyboard commands open vo utility with vo+f8 and you should be in the general items just scroll right until you get to [allow vo to be controlled by apple scripts] and if it is not checked then do so! >> This will help with the tell time command! >> Which you'll find in the table of commands after you have picked the keyboard commander tab under commanders in the categories table! >> Also after the keyboard tab you'll get that option to pick option key you want to use [it should be set on the right one by default] >> hth Colin >> On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:22, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Linda:Keyboard commander is probably something you want to leave enabled. It allows you to do special commands that you can map for your convenience. Far more than I can go into here. But, perhaps I can send you a little info to clarify that. >>> >>> The trackpad commander is what allows the multi-touch trackpad to perform some of the things you would otherwise use the keyboard for only better. For example, with trackpad commander enabled, you can do a two finger swipe to the right, and then a two-finger swipe down to have the text continuous read. >>> >>> To turn trackpad commander on, you place two fingers on the trackpad, while holding control and option you do a roter-type gesture clockwise You should hear a sound, and VO should either say, "trackpad commander is on," or "already on." >>> Conversely, the same gesture counter-clock turns the trackpad commander off. >>> Hope I haven't confused you further. >>> Take care >>> >>> Carolyn. >>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: >>> >>>> Much thanks Carolyn! >>>> >>>> I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? >>>> Again I appreciate your help, >>>> Linda >>>> >>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Linda: >>>>> Sounds as though your tracking settings may have been compromised. I went into voiceover utility and copied my settings under the Navigation category, in case a comparison would be helpful. >>>>> These are just my arbitrary settings to some degree, and they may not reflect the default. But, they might give you a clue. >>>>> >>>>> The other thing is you might be inadvertently affecting your trackpad. I often turn my trackpad commander off when in mail. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps. Take care and below my signature are the settings. >>>>> >>>>> Carolyn Haas >>>>> >>>>> , >>>>> Keyboard focused item: initial position of voiceover cursor selected >>>>> keyboard focus follows voiceover cursor checked >>>>> voiceover cursor follows keyboard focus checked >>>>> Insertion point follows voiceover cursor checked >>>>> voiceover cursor follows insertion point: checked >>>>> Follows voiceover cursor: Mouse cursor >>>>> allow cursor wrapping: unchecked >>>>> Skip redundant labels: checked >>>>> automatically interact when using tab key: unchecked >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 16:54:13 2011 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria, Joe and Karly) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:54:13 +1000 Subject: PKT Weather for Iphone/Ipad In-Reply-To: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4DEE49A5.2030109@gmail.com> HI. i have the australian version and i love it as well. the alert warnings are great. Maria and Karly from Australia Friendship flourishes at the fountain of forgiveness. William A. Ward twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book& email: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com please check out www.powerradio104.com PROUD MEMBER and support volunteer for TAFN www.tafn.org.uk my groups BlindSightedChat-subscribe at yahoogroups.com http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindsightedchat shelter-from-the-storm-subscribe at yahoogroups.com On 7/06/2011 2:55 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Anyone using this? In my view its the best weather app for the Iphone/Ipad I've come across yet. > > Firstly its very accessible and secondly its very detailed, I have both the Local and World editions here and I frequently reference the world edition. > > Everything is displayed in plain language, for example if you see a reference to a temperature then to the right of this is displayed what relevance the temperature is, that is to say whether its current, minimum, maximum comfort level etc. > > The app handles long range forecasts up to a week in advance. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 17:14:18 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 17:14:18 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Re: Feedback on iPod Touch 4th Generation Message-ID: <4DEE4E5A.6030604@googlemail.com> Hello all. Here is the response. Very impressed with the timing I must say. Take care. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Feedback on iPod Touch 4th Generation Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 08:55:52 -0700 From: Apple Accessibility To: chris hallsworth Hello, Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and will pass this on to the appropriate people for their consideration. Apple Accessibility On Jun 7, From mfurness at bell.net Tue Jun 7 18:04:42 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:04:42 -0400 Subject: lion 2 computers Message-ID: We have 2 computers. I believe, we can download Lion, when it comes out, and install it on both systems. Does anyone know how this will be done Downloading is easy. Making a copy and transferring it to the other computer eludes me. Second question. How is a backup disc made, incase one has to do a reinstall? Thank you for all your support! Mark? From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jun 7 18:19:44 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 18:19:44 +0100 Subject: lion 2 computers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8ED533AA-8E3F-4118-9400-E0A7528E70C4@blueyonder.co.uk> If you have Snow Leopard on both computers, you just simply log into the Mac Store with your username and password, when you purchase Lion, it will be then made available in your purchase history which will enable you to download Lion onto all your Mac devices that share that iTunes account. So after downloading Lion on your first computer, go to the second computer and choose to download Lion again from the Mac app store. This time around you will not be asked to purchase it, because you will have already done that but instead you will be given the option to download it again. Chris On 7 Jun 2011, at 18:04, Mark Furness wrote: > We have 2 computers. I believe, we can download Lion, when it comes out, and install it on both systems. Does anyone know how this will be done > > Downloading is easy. Making a copy and transferring it to the other computer eludes me. > > Second question. How is a backup disc made, incase one has to do a reinstall? > > Thank you for all your support! > > Mark? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lavendar at bell.net Tue Jun 7 18:23:33 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:23:33 -0400 Subject: filling out pdf forms possible? Message-ID: Hi, I am wondering if it's possible to fill out a form in pdf format on the mac? I have this government form for citizenship that needs filling out, and it's in pdf format. We've got a mail strike on here currently, so if I could get it filled out myself, it would be easier, but of course I want to do it correctly, if possible and not muss it up. Could I do this is preveiw? Thanks, Caitlyn Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net From tsiegel at softcon.com Tue Jun 7 18:46:30 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:46:30 -0500 Subject: filling out pdf forms possible? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: To my knowledge, there is no method for vo users to fill out pdf forms on the mac. Of course, Ihave been known to be wrong, so if someone else knows differently, I'm sure they will speak up. However, even if you had a program that would allow you to edit the pdf forms (such as pdf pen) that program would have to be accessible, which pdf pen is not, thus the disclaimer above about vo users. hth. From lavendar at bell.net Tue Jun 7 19:28:13 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:28:13 -0400 Subject: filling out pdf forms possible? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Travis, Thanks anyway. Obviously, this is something I didn't want to muck up! I found out that they can send everything in braille, supposedly. I'll belive it when I get it all in the post. If this strike ever ends. I thought it was worth asking, though, you never know what can be done, I've found out! smile Cait Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > To my knowledge, there is no method for vo users to fill out pdf forms on the mac. Of course, Ihave been known to be wrong, so if someone else knows differently, I'm sure they will speak up. > However, even if you had a program that would allow you to edit the pdf forms (such as pdf pen) that program would have to be accessible, which pdf pen is not, thus the disclaimer above about vo users. > hth. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 19:41:43 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 19:41:43 +0100 Subject: reading tables Message-ID: <180C042D-9AE8-40C4-BB6A-0EBA3036D15F@gmail.com> hi all with voiceover is it easy please to read tables like columns and rows? how do i do this please? From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 19:53:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:53:53 -0700 Subject: reading tables In-Reply-To: <180C042D-9AE8-40C4-BB6A-0EBA3036D15F@gmail.com> References: <180C042D-9AE8-40C4-BB6A-0EBA3036D15F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <692D209F-07D5-4CC5-A331-7D4FABF47648@gmail.com> I just use the vo keys after I interact with the table and it should read that column or that row. For example in the mac update window you can use vo up and down to read the column and vo left and right to read the row. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:41 AM, william lomas wrote: > hi all with voiceover is it easy please to read tables like columns and rows? > how do i do this please? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chaas0217 at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 20:21:52 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:21:52 -0600 Subject: reading tables In-Reply-To: <180C042D-9AE8-40C4-BB6A-0EBA3036D15F@gmail.com> References: <180C042D-9AE8-40C4-BB6A-0EBA3036D15F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9EE2BD6F-8820-4AD3-A707-060CF46A6DD3@gmail.com> Hi William: When you encounter a table, interact with it. The columns and rows will be spoken. If there are either lists, groups or links within the columns or rows, you'll want to interact Just remember that the key to working with them, at least in my experience is when all else fails, try interacting with it.:) HTH Carolyn On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:41 PM, william lomas wrote: > hi all with voiceover is it easy please to read tables like columns and rows? > how do i do this please? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Jun 8 03:05:02 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 03:05:02 +0100 Subject: presentation In-Reply-To: <027BE048-C179-4392-B64E-D885E7D770A6@gmail.com> References: <5EB64B92-785C-447F-B4FE-16787E95B6C3@internode.on.net> <4DED0992.8080800@gmail.com> <4DED0B2E.8000407@internode.on.net> <4DED0C8E.7080204@gmail.com> <2AC639A0-F445-4EDA-B188-D7F56BFF417B@gmail.com> <41568B29-1E62-4511-8CC6-744C5D98486F@mac-access.net> <9692AD65-75FB-4D7D-8F70-FD2AF6A56F06@gmail.com> <027BE048-C179-4392-B64E-D885E7D770A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Nic I'm bound to say I agree. The seeming presumption that intelligent life doesn't exist outside of the US really gets up my nose. Apple isn't the only company who does this, but they're definitely amongst the worst. I love their products, for the most part. But their attitude regarding overseas customers is incredibly disappointing. I know that we have at least one Apple employee monitoring this list and, if they would care to come up with an explanation for this policy I'd be most interested to hear it. Gordon On 6 Jun 2011, at 20:47, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Well,personally, I thought they were pretty fantastic announcements, mostly. Sadly, I have no idea what creates a restriction like this, but apparently iCloud is only available to US customers in beta right now. This seems kind of odd to me, since I would have figured it testing it on a larger scale would have been a lot more appropriate. I suppose the US is big enough, but even so, odd country-specific bugs have been known to pop up. I'm not going to go on about how much I hate this US thing, but it's made me slap my forehead plenty of times. Also, if I did rant, it'd turn into pages upon pages. Regardless, though, I'm looking forward to the release. From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jun 8 04:50:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 04:50:31 +0100 Subject: Lion Upgrading In-Reply-To: References: <26AA245F-44B9-424F-A646-2699F1B9D515@gmail.com> <71864CE8-5493-446A-BFDB-F3EDFEF53FBA@gmail.com> <1D20C19C-A9C6-4E69-92D3-F5561F898B3B@mac.com> Message-ID: <196DA714-F5C9-4A01-ADD6-A975D3189F6C@mac-access.net> Please please please folks, keep your subject lines current. We are going to hammer this message home until it stops being forgotten, ignored, which ever it is. Now, to comment on the original message: On 6 Jun 2011, at 22:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: ? lol! We'll see. I do intend to upgrade. but question how do I make a bootable dvd? if i can find a dvr in my house? lol! or I might do that flash drive trick if I have foom on my studio flash drive. If I may suggest; it is probably wrong to leap to conclusions. Apple developers aren't stupid; I'm sure they've covered these options. So let's not spread panic rumours until the facts, all of them, are known. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 06:31:45 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 22:31:45 -0700 Subject: Lion Upgrading In-Reply-To: <196DA714-F5C9-4A01-ADD6-A975D3189F6C@mac-access.net> References: <26AA245F-44B9-424F-A646-2699F1B9D515@gmail.com> <71864CE8-5493-446A-BFDB-F3EDFEF53FBA@gmail.com> <1D20C19C-A9C6-4E69-92D3-F5561F898B3B@mac.com> <196DA714-F5C9-4A01-ADD6-A975D3189F6C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Actually I found an article that I think I posted here on how to make a bootable dvd for lion. Dvds will be available in retail stores but I'll ust turn one and put it in to a jule case and put int in my cd dvd box. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 7, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Please please please folks, keep your subject lines current. We are going to hammer this message home until it stops being forgotten, ignored, which ever it is. Now, to comment on the original message: > > On 6 Jun 2011, at 22:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > ? lol! We'll see. I do intend to upgrade. but question how do I make a bootable dvd? if i can find a dvr in my house? lol! or I might do that flash drive trick if I have foom on my studio flash drive. > > If I may suggest; it is probably wrong to leap to conclusions. Apple developers aren't stupid; I'm sure they've covered these options. So let's not spread panic rumours until the facts, all of them, are known. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jun 8 07:21:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 07:21:32 +0100 Subject: lion 2 computers In-Reply-To: <8ED533AA-8E3F-4118-9400-E0A7528E70C4@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <8ED533AA-8E3F-4118-9400-E0A7528E70C4@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hello Chris & Mark On 7 Jun 2011, at 18:19, Chris Moore wrote: ? If you have Snow Leopard on both computers, you just simply log into the Mac Store with your username and password, when you purchase Lion, it will be then made available in your purchase history which will enable you to download Lion onto all your Mac devices that share that iTunes account. So after downloading Lion on your first computer, go to the second computer and choose to download Lion again from the Mac app store. This time around you will not be asked to purchase it, because you will have already done that but instead you will be given the option to download it again. There's a far better way! Just look in your /Applications folder and copy the Mac Install whatever it is .app file over to your other personally authorised computer. This is far more efficient than messing around re-downloading. Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Jun 8 08:04:42 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 08:04:42 +0100 Subject: Upgrading to Lion In-Reply-To: References: <8ED533AA-8E3F-4118-9400-E0A7528E70C4@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <4583CE9F-A76B-43E1-924D-6B6974ECFFCB@mac-access.net> Hello everyone, I know that this pretty much speculation right now, but as the Lion upgrade will come as a download from theApp Store, will we be able to make a USB/DVD copy for Permission REpair purposes or reinstallation? After listening to the Keynote, I was not quite sure how this aspect would work. Does anyone have any ideas please? Thanks TC :) James From mfurness at bell.net Wed Jun 8 15:11:46 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:11:46 -0400 Subject: wish to go back mail question Message-ID: I set my mail program to start automatically when I start my Mac. Now I wish for this not to happen, but can not remember where I set it up Can someone guide me to the correct place? I have already checked ,preferences in Mail and system. Mark From mfurness at bell.net Wed Jun 8 15:21:26 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:21:26 -0400 Subject: found answer Re: wish to go back mail question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I found the answer. While in the doc, select mail do v o shift plus M down arrow once and there it was On 2011-06-08, at 10:11 AM, Mark Furness wrote: > I set my mail program to start automatically when I start my Mac. > Now I wish for this not to happen, but can not remember where I set it up > Can someone guide me to the correct place? I have already checked ,preferences in Mail and system. > > Mark > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 16:58:11 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 08:58:11 -0700 Subject: 10.6: Completely Disable Virtual Memory in Snow Leopard Message-ID: <61DC48C8-8848-4969-8E85-015B38DB19E2@gmail.com> 10.6: Completely Disable Virtual Memory in Snow Leopard This hint is the result of an experience I tried in the last few days. It involves disabling the dynamic pager daemon and stop using virtual memory at all in Snow Leopard. I don't recommend doing it in previous OSX versions, or if don't want to take risks. Advantages, in my case, are obvious, and, so far, with no issues at all. My MacBook Pro, Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 320 GB HD, has been a real pleasure to use; my previous machine was an old PowerBook G4, as slow as you can imagine. But even with the MBP, some slowness seems to sometimes appear in everyday usage (Parallels 6/Windows7, Firefox, Photoshop, Mail, iTunes always opened), specifically related to the disk activity (a 5400 RPM 320 GB, Hitachi drive). I suspected the paging activities of OSX to be responsible for the general system slowdown. If so, no doubt the disk drive is the weak side of the ... http://bit.ly/mS112D From billd at insightbb.com Wed Jun 8 17:54:53 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (bill Deatherage) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 12:54:53 -0400 Subject: twitter on the IPhone Message-ID: <997565EC02114FDEBD79FB90A6C7869C@WilliamPC> Hello, I was able to get signed up to twitter on the iphone. and now am able to get on the sight but I can?t get signed off. I was using the twitter app. is there a better way to get on twitter with the Iphone that works well with the VO speach.? Thanks in advance. Bill Deatherage From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Jun 8 17:58:57 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 02:58:57 +1000 Subject: twitter on the IPhone In-Reply-To: <997565EC02114FDEBD79FB90A6C7869C@WilliamPC> References: <997565EC02114FDEBD79FB90A6C7869C@WilliamPC> Message-ID: <120DCD42-90CB-4B83-99FA-9439ACAFE5D5@internode.on.net> Many better ways to get on Twitter , some are free apps whilst others are not. 2 I like very much are Tweet which is free and Tweetlist which is a app you buy but well worth the many, contains a rich set of easy-to-use features and many accessibility enhancements. Tweet - the free Twitter client - also has added features such as sound and vibrating alerts which you can set for predetermined events such as when new mentions arrive, new direct messages etc. On 09/06/2011, at 2:54 AM, bill Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I was able to get signed up to twitter on the iphone. and now am able to get on the sight but I can?t get signed off. I was using the twitter app. is there a better way to get on twitter with the Iphone that works well with the VO speach.? > Thanks in advance. > Bill Deatherage > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From solsticesinger at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 18:01:06 2011 From: solsticesinger at gmail.com (Shannon Dyer) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 13:01:06 -0400 Subject: a few queestions about dock, applications menu, and desktop Message-ID: Hi, all. I haven't had my Mac very long, and I'm a little confused by the dock, applications menu, and the desktop. Right now, my desktop is empty. My dock is filled with a bunch of things I have no intention of using, and, whenever I want to open a program that isn't in the dock, I have to find it in the applications menu. So, I'm wondering a few things. First off, does the dock function like the traditional windows desktop, and, if so, how do I move things on to and off of it? If not, or, even if so, can I transfer certain things that I use often directly to my desktop? If so, how do I accomplish this? I hope this made sense. As I read it over, I felt like I was a little rambly. If clarification is needed, feel free to let me know. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 18:03:03 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:03:03 +0200 Subject: twitter on the IPhone In-Reply-To: <120DCD42-90CB-4B83-99FA-9439ACAFE5D5@internode.on.net> References: <997565EC02114FDEBD79FB90A6C7869C@WilliamPC> <120DCD42-90CB-4B83-99FA-9439ACAFE5D5@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hi! Just to add something, Tweetlist actually has a free app which can almost do the same. The only excluded features only available in the Pro version seem to be light/dark themes and multiple user accounts. Regards, Nic On Jun 8, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Many better ways to get on Twitter , some are free apps whilst others are not. 2 I like very much are Tweet which is free and Tweetlist which is a app you buy but well worth the many, contains a rich set of easy-to-use features and many accessibility enhancements. > > Tweet - the free Twitter client - also has added features such as sound and vibrating alerts which you can set for predetermined events such as when new mentions arrive, new direct messages etc. > > > On 09/06/2011, at 2:54 AM, bill Deatherage wrote: > >> Hello, >> I was able to get signed up to twitter on the iphone. and now am able to get on the sight but I can?t get signed off. I was using the twitter app. is there a better way to get on twitter with the Iphone that works well with the VO speach.? >> Thanks in advance. >> Bill Deatherage >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chaas0217 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 18:30:43 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:30:43 -0600 Subject: a few questions about doc Message-ID: <1F9E8551-D19A-4D8F-8BDB-002744785750@gmail.com> Hi Shannon: The dock is a line of most commonly used applications that runs across the bottom of your screen. To add things to the dock, go to what you want to add, and (for example, Skype, press command-shift-T and it is added to the dock. Some people don't even mess with the dock. I find it easiest to work from the finder, and the Applications folder, or the home folder. So, from finder, I can press either command-shift A, or command-shift-H and be in either the "do-it" area or the "read/find-it" area. Pardon my strange categories there. But, that's one option to consider. Keep in mind, the mac OS and VO are so very flexible, it may take some time to find the things that work for you. Best Carolyn, From solsticesinger at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 18:48:45 2011 From: solsticesinger at gmail.com (Shannon Dyer) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 13:48:45 -0400 Subject: finder In-Reply-To: <1F9E8551-D19A-4D8F-8BDB-002744785750@gmail.com> References: <1F9E8551-D19A-4D8F-8BDB-002744785750@gmail.com> Message-ID: Finder confuses me. People tell me it's kind of like windows explorer, but I seriously don't see the similarities. I see that finder always runs, but I really can't figure out what's for. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net On Jun 8, 2011, at 1:30 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Shannon: > The dock is a line of most commonly used applications that runs across the bottom of your screen. To add things to the dock, go to what you want to add, and (for example, Skype, press command-shift-T and it is added to the dock. > Some people don't even mess with the dock. I find it easiest to work from the finder, and the Applications folder, or the home folder. So, from finder, I can press either command-shift A, or command-shift-H and be in either the "do-it" area or the "read/find-it" area. Pardon my strange categories there. But, that's one option to consider. > Keep in mind, the mac OS and VO are so very flexible, it may take some time to find the things that work for you. > Best > > Carolyn, > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Wed Jun 8 18:49:09 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Colin M) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:49:09 +0100 Subject: a few questions about doc In-Reply-To: <1F9E8551-D19A-4D8F-8BDB-002744785750@gmail.com> References: <1F9E8551-D19A-4D8F-8BDB-002744785750@gmail.com> Message-ID: <29EC4AD5-ED8A-4164-8A05-B9CEBEAC6B0B@virginmedia.com> Hi Shannon! Also when your in the doc and there is something you do want to remove just go to that one with your cursor then open the vo+shift+m and in there you will find a option to remove from doc! You can also add to the doc in the same way if you have a app running it should show in the doc and in that menu there will then be a option to keep in doc! And just if you want you can change where items are in the doc by using command+option and either of the arrows! Vo will tell you what you are moving passed! hth Colin On 8 Jun 2011, at 18:30, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Shannon: > The dock is a line of most commonly used applications that runs across the bottom of your screen. To add things to the dock, go to what you want to add, and (for example, Skype, press command-shift-T and it is added to the dock. > Some people don't even mess with the dock. I find it easiest to work from the finder, and the Applications folder, or the home folder. So, from finder, I can press either command-shift A, or command-shift-H and be in either the "do-it" area or the "read/find-it" area. Pardon my strange categories there. But, that's one option to consider. > Keep in mind, the mac OS and VO are so very flexible, it may take some time to find the things that work for you. > Best > > Carolyn, > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Wed Jun 8 19:01:01 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 19:01:01 +0100 Subject: twitter on the IPhone In-Reply-To: <997565EC02114FDEBD79FB90A6C7869C@WilliamPC> References: <997565EC02114FDEBD79FB90A6C7869C@WilliamPC> Message-ID: <4DEFB8DD.60005@googlemail.com> Hi all. I use Twitter for iPhone because I like the push notifications. I tried TweetList, but because I didn't get any push notifications I didn't like it and went back to the official Twitter app. Chat soon. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird On 08/06/2011 17:54, bill Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I was able to get signed up to twitter on the iphone. and now am able to get on the sight but I can?t get signed off. I was using the twitter app. is there a better way to get on twitter with the Iphone that works well with the VO speach.? > Thanks in advance. > Bill Deatherage > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Wed Jun 8 19:16:14 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 14:16:14 -0400 Subject: Problems with Skype and call section controls. Message-ID: Hi list, Those of you using Skype 5 are probably aware that the same window which handles your Skype chats also handles calls and conferences. THis is different than Skype 2.7, as some of you will remember. My problem is this. Sometimes, when I'm in a call, I can see the message history of the chat, the edit field, and the horizontal splitter but nothing else. I can't end the call without shifting my focus to the contact list and hanging up through the context menu. I can't higher or lower the volume of a call. And I can't start my webcam. I assume the horizontal splitters have to be set a certain way for this to work. But I've tried adjusting them and still can't get the needed controls to show up. Again, this is sometimes and not all the time. But it is still a pain. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Rose From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 21:03:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 13:03:29 -0700 Subject: Problems with Skype and call section controls. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <04596055-CB39-4BBC-BA9F-9A7B9A60F46D@gmail.com> Actually I've had this happen as well and I can't figure out what causes it either. It seems to have gone away for me. Are you updated to the latest hotfix Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 8, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Rose Morales wrote: > Hi list, > Those of you using Skype 5 are probably aware that the same window which handles your Skype chats also handles calls and conferences. THis is different than Skype 2.7, as some of you will remember. My problem is this. Sometimes, when I'm in a call, I can see the message history of the chat, the edit field, and the horizontal splitter but nothing else. I can't end the call without shifting my focus to the contact list and hanging up through the context menu. I can't higher or lower the volume of a call. And I can't start my webcam. I assume the horizontal splitters have to be set a certain way for this to work. But I've tried adjusting them and still can't get the needed controls to show up. Again, this is sometimes and not all the time. But it is still a pain. > Any assistance would be much appreciated. > Rose > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mfurness at bell.net Wed Jun 8 21:54:13 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:54:13 -0400 Subject: deleting bookmarks Message-ID: How does one do this? Hitting delete and or command delete does not do it. Neither is their an option in safaris menu. Thank you for all your help. Mark From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Wed Jun 8 22:56:17 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Colin M) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 22:56:17 +0100 Subject: deleting bookmarks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mark! Ok if the bookmarks in question are in either the bookmarks bar or menu! Open all bookmarks with command+option+b then left arrow to a table and interact with it! Select the one you want [bookmarks bar] and stop interacting and scroll right to the next table! Interact and you should have the bookmarks that you've got in the bar! Go to the one you wish to remove and open vo+shift+m and in there is a delete option! The same method for bookmarks menu just pick it from that first table! Then when your done use command+option+b to hide the bookmarks again! hth Colin On 8 Jun 2011, at 21:54, Mark Furness wrote: > How does one do this? > Hitting delete and or command delete does not do it. > Neither is their an option in safaris menu. > > Thank you for all your help. > > Mark > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Wed Jun 8 23:01:54 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:01:54 -1000 Subject: deleting bookmarks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I was in the middle of typing an answer, but since Colin has given a response, I'll just add that once you have selected your Bookmarks collection in the first table (e.g. "History", "Bookmarks Bar", "Bookmarks Menu", and any folders you may have created) and navigated to the corresponding list of bookmarks within that collection in the second table (an easy way to get there is VO+Command+T). You can simply use your delete key without using the context menu. You can also use Command+F and type in the name of the bookmark to filter results shown in the second table. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 8, 2011, at 11:56, Colin M wrote: > Hi Mark! > Ok if the bookmarks in question are in either the bookmarks bar or menu! > Open all bookmarks with command+option+b then left arrow to a table and interact with it! > Select the one you want [bookmarks bar] and stop interacting and scroll right to the next table! > Interact and you should have the bookmarks that you've got in the bar! > Go to the one you wish to remove and open vo+shift+m and in there is a delete option! > The same method for bookmarks menu just pick it from that first table! > Then when your done use command+option+b to hide the bookmarks again! > hth Colin > On 8 Jun 2011, at 21:54, Mark Furness wrote: > >> How does one do this? >> Hitting delete and or command delete does not do it. >> Neither is their an option in safaris menu. >> >> Thank you for all your help. >> >> Mark From n0oxy at charter.net Thu Jun 9 01:28:44 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:28:44 -0500 Subject: Upgrading to Lion In-Reply-To: <4583CE9F-A76B-43E1-924D-6B6974ECFFCB@mac-access.net> References: <8ED533AA-8E3F-4118-9400-E0A7528E70C4@blueyonder.co.uk> <4583CE9F-A76B-43E1-924D-6B6974ECFFCB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: There is a DMG file within the application that is a disk image of the bootable install, you could burn that to a dvd, or clone it to a flash drive, you would then have a bootable install drive. On Jun 8, 2011, at 2:04 AM, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I know that this pretty much speculation right now, but as the Lion upgrade will come as a download from theApp Store, will we be able to make a USB/DVD copy for Permission REpair purposes or reinstallation? After listening to the Keynote, I was not quite sure how this aspect would work. Does anyone have any ideas please? > > Thanks > TC :) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 01:39:16 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:39:16 -0700 Subject: Upgrading to Lion In-Reply-To: References: <8ED533AA-8E3F-4118-9400-E0A7528E70C4@blueyonder.co.uk> <4583CE9F-A76B-43E1-924D-6B6974ECFFCB@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <00856BA4-F3DC-4C0F-B881-A7F2E1192DCC@gmail.com> Yep thats what the article said. they gave the anem of the boot file as well. Now if i could only find my dvd that would be nice! lol! Ah well.I have months to look and plenty of time to upgrade. Thanks all for your help. I'm out of here. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > There is a DMG file within the application that is a disk image of the bootable install, you could burn that to a dvd, or clone it to a flash drive, you would then have a bootable install drive. > On Jun 8, 2011, at 2:04 AM, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I know that this pretty much speculation right now, but as the Lion upgrade will come as a download from theApp Store, will we be able to make a USB/DVD copy for Permission REpair purposes or reinstallation? After listening to the Keynote, I was not quite sure how this aspect would work. Does anyone have any ideas please? >> >> Thanks >> TC :) >> James >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Thu Jun 9 02:21:23 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:21:23 -0400 Subject: twitter on the IPhone In-Reply-To: References: <997565EC02114FDEBD79FB90A6C7869C@WilliamPC> <120DCD42-90CB-4B83-99FA-9439ACAFE5D5@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <10F89BDA-C3A4-4008-B2DB-F1D9A649CC7C@insightbb.com> Hi Thanks for the information. I will look up that app. Bill deatherage From lmumford at uga.edu Thu Jun 9 03:06:18 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 02:06:18 +0000 Subject: keyboard commander shortcuts (was mail help) In-Reply-To: References: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> Message-ID: Hi Colin, Thank you for the tip about not setting up a shortcut to Itunes with the option key plus i. I want to set up a shortcut to get to pages... option key plus p, and another one for skype... option key plus k but I can't figure out how to do this. I plus the add button, get into the blank key cell and type the letter in the blank cell but get stumped when I then go to the command menu to select the command. I get a list of all the command tables (general, information, navigation, web, find, jump, etc) but can't find where to go to select pages or skype. I can't even find Itunes for that matter. What I am I missing or doing wrong? As always, thank you for your help. Linda On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Linda! > Just one more thing! :] > If you have already started to make your own keyboard shortcuts, one to avoid is to make one for Itunes! > It will work but there is a clash with a Itunes command! > If you have it set [for example] right option+i, you might find that some times when you press it a choose Itunes library window comes up! > This is because if you launch Itunes [lets say from the doc] and then hold the option key down as it starts you will get that window! > So it can happen with the shortcut! > What I've done with my Itunes is moved it next to the finder in the doc! > You can move items in the doc with option+command and either the left or right arrows! > Vo will say what you are moving passed until you get the item where you want it! > hth Colin! > On 7 Jun 2011, at 00:59, Linda Mumford wrote: > >> A big thank you to you too Colin! "Allow voice over to be controlled by apple scripts" wasn't checked, so I checked it and was very impressed to hear the date and time announced when I hit the right option key with the T... now I won't have any more excuses for losing track of the time while I'm on the computer! >> >> Linda >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi Linda! >>> Just something you will need to do to help with the keyboard commands open vo utility with vo+f8 and you should be in the general items just scroll right until you get to [allow vo to be controlled by apple scripts] and if it is not checked then do so! >>> This will help with the tell time command! >>> Which you'll find in the table of commands after you have picked the keyboard commander tab under commanders in the categories table! >>> Also after the keyboard tab you'll get that option to pick option key you want to use [it should be set on the right one by default] >>> hth Colin >>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:22, carolyn Haas wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Linda:Keyboard commander is probably something you want to leave enabled. It allows you to do special commands that you can map for your convenience. Far more than I can go into here. But, perhaps I can send you a little info to clarify that. >>>> >>>> The trackpad commander is what allows the multi-touch trackpad to perform some of the things you would otherwise use the keyboard for only better. For example, with trackpad commander enabled, you can do a two finger swipe to the right, and then a two-finger swipe down to have the text continuous read. >>>> >>>> To turn trackpad commander on, you place two fingers on the trackpad, while holding control and option you do a roter-type gesture clockwise You should hear a sound, and VO should either say, "trackpad commander is on," or "already on." >>>> Conversely, the same gesture counter-clock turns the trackpad commander off. >>>> Hope I haven't confused you further. >>>> Take care >>>> >>>> Carolyn. >>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: >>>> >>>>> Much thanks Carolyn! >>>>> >>>>> I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? >>>>> Again I appreciate your help, >>>>> Linda >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Linda: >>>>>> Sounds as though your tracking settings may have been compromised. I went into voiceover utility and copied my settings under the Navigation category, in case a comparison would be helpful. >>>>>> These are just my arbitrary settings to some degree, and they may not reflect the default. But, they might give you a clue. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other thing is you might be inadvertently affecting your trackpad. I often turn my trackpad commander off when in mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps. Take care and below my signature are the settings. >>>>>> >>>>>> Carolyn Haas >>>>>> >>>>>> , >>>>>> Keyboard focused item: initial position of voiceover cursor selected >>>>>> keyboard focus follows voiceover cursor checked >>>>>> voiceover cursor follows keyboard focus checked >>>>>> Insertion point follows voiceover cursor checked >>>>>> voiceover cursor follows insertion point: checked >>>>>> Follows voiceover cursor: Mouse cursor >>>>>> allow cursor wrapping: unchecked >>>>>> Skip redundant labels: checked >>>>>> automatically interact when using tab key: unchecked >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 03:26:24 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 22:26:24 -0400 Subject: keyboard commander shortcuts (was mail help) In-Reply-To: References: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> Message-ID: <8138CDB6-A13B-4731-BF37-092101D09A76@gmail.com> The last item in the first menu is "custom" and the first item in there is Open Application. When you select this a open dialog box should let you pick the application to run. Best of luck, Jonathan On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:06 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: > Hi Colin, > > Thank you for the tip about not setting up a shortcut to Itunes with the option key plus i. I want to set up a shortcut to get to pages... option key plus p, and another one for skype... option key plus k but I can't figure out how to do this. I plus the add button, get into the blank key cell and type the letter in the blank cell but get stumped when I then go to the command menu to select the command. I get a list of all the command tables (general, information, navigation, web, find, jump, etc) but can't find where to go to select pages or skype. I can't even find Itunes for that matter. What I am I missing or doing wrong? > > As always, thank you for your help. > Linda > > On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi Linda! >> Just one more thing! :] >> If you have already started to make your own keyboard shortcuts, one to avoid is to make one for Itunes! >> It will work but there is a clash with a Itunes command! >> If you have it set [for example] right option+i, you might find that some times when you press it a choose Itunes library window comes up! >> This is because if you launch Itunes [lets say from the doc] and then hold the option key down as it starts you will get that window! >> So it can happen with the shortcut! >> What I've done with my Itunes is moved it next to the finder in the doc! >> You can move items in the doc with option+command and either the left or right arrows! >> Vo will say what you are moving passed until you get the item where you want it! >> hth Colin! >> On 7 Jun 2011, at 00:59, Linda Mumford wrote: >> >>> A big thank you to you too Colin! "Allow voice over to be controlled by apple scripts" wasn't checked, so I checked it and was very impressed to hear the date and time announced when I hit the right option key with the T... now I won't have any more excuses for losing track of the time while I'm on the computer! >>> >>> Linda >>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Colin M wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Linda! >>>> Just something you will need to do to help with the keyboard commands open vo utility with vo+f8 and you should be in the general items just scroll right until you get to [allow vo to be controlled by apple scripts] and if it is not checked then do so! >>>> This will help with the tell time command! >>>> Which you'll find in the table of commands after you have picked the keyboard commander tab under commanders in the categories table! >>>> Also after the keyboard tab you'll get that option to pick option key you want to use [it should be set on the right one by default] >>>> hth Colin >>>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:22, carolyn Haas wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Linda:Keyboard commander is probably something you want to leave enabled. It allows you to do special commands that you can map for your convenience. Far more than I can go into here. But, perhaps I can send you a little info to clarify that. >>>>> >>>>> The trackpad commander is what allows the multi-touch trackpad to perform some of the things you would otherwise use the keyboard for only better. For example, with trackpad commander enabled, you can do a two finger swipe to the right, and then a two-finger swipe down to have the text continuous read. >>>>> >>>>> To turn trackpad commander on, you place two fingers on the trackpad, while holding control and option you do a roter-type gesture clockwise You should hear a sound, and VO should either say, "trackpad commander is on," or "already on." >>>>> Conversely, the same gesture counter-clock turns the trackpad commander off. >>>>> Hope I haven't confused you further. >>>>> Take care >>>>> >>>>> Carolyn. >>>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Much thanks Carolyn! >>>>>> >>>>>> I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? >>>>>> Again I appreciate your help, >>>>>> Linda >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Linda: >>>>>>> Sounds as though your tracking settings may have been compromised. I went into voiceover utility and copied my settings under the Navigation category, in case a comparison would be helpful. >>>>>>> These are just my arbitrary settings to some degree, and they may not reflect the default. But, they might give you a clue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The other thing is you might be inadvertently affecting your trackpad. I often turn my trackpad commander off when in mail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this helps. Take care and below my signature are the settings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carolyn Haas >>>>>>> >>>>>>> , >>>>>>> Keyboard focused item: initial position of voiceover cursor selected >>>>>>> keyboard focus follows voiceover cursor checked >>>>>>> voiceover cursor follows keyboard focus checked >>>>>>> Insertion point follows voiceover cursor checked >>>>>>> voiceover cursor follows insertion point: checked >>>>>>> Follows voiceover cursor: Mouse cursor >>>>>>> allow cursor wrapping: unchecked >>>>>>> Skip redundant labels: checked >>>>>>> automatically interact when using tab key: unchecked >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lmumford at uga.edu Thu Jun 9 03:41:25 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 02:41:25 +0000 Subject: keyboard commander shortcuts (was mail help) In-Reply-To: <8138CDB6-A13B-4731-BF37-092101D09A76@gmail.com> References: <008C1B31-41D6-433D-A2F5-1A03B0DD75BB@uga.edu> <8138CDB6-A13B-4731-BF37-092101D09A76@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5493CF9A-C7EC-4B5E-B9F9-E690F4E2577F@uga.edu> Hi Jonathan, It worked!! Thanks so much!! Linda On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > The last item in the first menu is "custom" and the first item in there is Open Application. When you select this a open dialog box should let you pick the application to run. > > Best of luck, > > Jonathan > > On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:06 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: > >> Hi Colin, >> >> Thank you for the tip about not setting up a shortcut to Itunes with the option key plus i. I want to set up a shortcut to get to pages... option key plus p, and another one for skype... option key plus k but I can't figure out how to do this. I plus the add button, get into the blank key cell and type the letter in the blank cell but get stumped when I then go to the command menu to select the command. I get a list of all the command tables (general, information, navigation, web, find, jump, etc) but can't find where to go to select pages or skype. I can't even find Itunes for that matter. What I am I missing or doing wrong? >> >> As always, thank you for your help. >> Linda >> >> On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi Linda! >>> Just one more thing! :] >>> If you have already started to make your own keyboard shortcuts, one to avoid is to make one for Itunes! >>> It will work but there is a clash with a Itunes command! >>> If you have it set [for example] right option+i, you might find that some times when you press it a choose Itunes library window comes up! >>> This is because if you launch Itunes [lets say from the doc] and then hold the option key down as it starts you will get that window! >>> So it can happen with the shortcut! >>> What I've done with my Itunes is moved it next to the finder in the doc! >>> You can move items in the doc with option+command and either the left or right arrows! >>> Vo will say what you are moving passed until you get the item where you want it! >>> hth Colin! >>> On 7 Jun 2011, at 00:59, Linda Mumford wrote: >>> >>>> A big thank you to you too Colin! "Allow voice over to be controlled by apple scripts" wasn't checked, so I checked it and was very impressed to hear the date and time announced when I hit the right option key with the T... now I won't have any more excuses for losing track of the time while I'm on the computer! >>>> >>>> Linda >>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Colin M wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Linda! >>>>> Just something you will need to do to help with the keyboard commands open vo utility with vo+f8 and you should be in the general items just scroll right until you get to [allow vo to be controlled by apple scripts] and if it is not checked then do so! >>>>> This will help with the tell time command! >>>>> Which you'll find in the table of commands after you have picked the keyboard commander tab under commanders in the categories table! >>>>> Also after the keyboard tab you'll get that option to pick option key you want to use [it should be set on the right one by default] >>>>> hth Colin >>>>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:22, carolyn Haas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Linda:Keyboard commander is probably something you want to leave enabled. It allows you to do special commands that you can map for your convenience. Far more than I can go into here. But, perhaps I can send you a little info to clarify that. >>>>>> >>>>>> The trackpad commander is what allows the multi-touch trackpad to perform some of the things you would otherwise use the keyboard for only better. For example, with trackpad commander enabled, you can do a two finger swipe to the right, and then a two-finger swipe down to have the text continuous read. >>>>>> >>>>>> To turn trackpad commander on, you place two fingers on the trackpad, while holding control and option you do a roter-type gesture clockwise You should hear a sound, and VO should either say, "trackpad commander is on," or "already on." >>>>>> Conversely, the same gesture counter-clock turns the trackpad commander off. >>>>>> Hope I haven't confused you further. >>>>>> Take care >>>>>> >>>>>> Carolyn. >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Much thanks Carolyn! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I made a few slight adjustments to my navigation settings as per your suggestions. I looked up the command for turning off the trackpad commander under the get command help, but there wasn't any command listed next to it in the table. However, there was a command for toggling the keyboard commander on and off (VO-shift-K) and I discovered that the keyboard commander had been off. I don't want to sound like the total dunce I am, but what does the keyboard commander and the trackpad commander do? And could you tell me what the command is for toggling the trackpad commander on and off? >>>>>>> Again I appreciate your help, >>>>>>> Linda >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Linda: >>>>>>>> Sounds as though your tracking settings may have been compromised. I went into voiceover utility and copied my settings under the Navigation category, in case a comparison would be helpful. >>>>>>>> These are just my arbitrary settings to some degree, and they may not reflect the default. But, they might give you a clue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The other thing is you might be inadvertently affecting your trackpad. I often turn my trackpad commander off when in mail. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Take care and below my signature are the settings. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Carolyn Haas >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>> Keyboard focused item: initial position of voiceover cursor selected >>>>>>>> keyboard focus follows voiceover cursor checked >>>>>>>> voiceover cursor follows keyboard focus checked >>>>>>>> Insertion point follows voiceover cursor checked >>>>>>>> voiceover cursor follows insertion point: checked >>>>>>>> Follows voiceover cursor: Mouse cursor >>>>>>>> allow cursor wrapping: unchecked >>>>>>>> Skip redundant labels: checked >>>>>>>> automatically interact when using tab key: unchecked >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From support at mac-access.net Thu Jun 9 09:37:33 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:37:33 +0100 Subject: New Member welcome; [Please Do Not Reply On List] Message-ID: Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. 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If you're just wanting to write text then perhaps consider something like Documents II or Notesy. On 07/06/2011, at 9:08 PM, sadam ahmed wrote: > Evening all, i was just wondering if Pages works well with VoiceOver on Apple's mobile devices in terms of accessibility? i know it works very well on the Mac. Regards, Sadam. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jun 9 15:05:12 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:05:12 +0100 Subject: More iOS 5 accessibility details Message-ID: <588BBDA4-E61A-458C-ACAE-0B7445C26958@blueyonder.co.uk> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/06/09/inside_apples_ios_5_led_flash_on_calls_custom_accessibility_gesturesvibrations.html AppleInsider | Inside Apple's iOS 5: LED flash on calls, custom accessibility gestures & vibrations By AppleInsider Staff Published: 02:30 AM EST Apple is poised to add several significant advancements to accessibility in iOS 5, such as LED flash on calls, custom gestures and personalized vibration alerts. Apple unveiled iOS 5 on Monday at the Worldwide Developers Conference in San Francisco, touting a number of major improvements to the customizability of iOS for users with disabilities. The update is due out this fall. "iOS 5 comes with innovative new features that make it easier for people with mobility, hearing, vision, and cognitive disabilities to get the most from their iOS devices," Apple notes on its website. "iOS 5 works with specialized hardware accessories. "The LED flash and custom vibration settings let you see and feel when someone?s calling. And improvements to VoiceOver include custom element labeling. These are just a few of the ways iOS 5 continues making advances in the field of accessibility." As the iPhone maker has steadily ramped up accessibility features in iOS, adoption among users with disabilities has increased. Apple's iPad and iPhone have been praised by members of the blind community recommending the devices. A new Assistive Touch feature will allow customized gestures as macro shortcuts. The feature is still under development, however, as there doesn't yet appear to be a way to link new gestures to specific actions. iOS 5 on iPhone now supports use of the LED flash as an alert. Apple has also added a Speak Selection feature with an adjustable Speaking Rate slider for vocalizing text selections. Custom vibration alerts can also be activated in iOS 5. Personalized vibrations can be recorded for individual contacts by recording a series of taps on the screen. A viewer displays visual ripples indicating the force and frequency of the taps during recording and playback. For more, see AppleInsider's extensive coverage of iOS 5, including the in-depth features below: Inside Apple's iOS 5: Calendar improvements help make iPhone, iPad PC-free Inside Apple's iOS 5: iTunes Tone Store will offer more text alert options Inside iOS 5: Notification Center, banner alerts Inside Apple's move to open up SMS-style messaging to not-mobile clients Inside Apple's iOS 5: Reminders app offers location-aware to-do lists Inside Apple's iOS 5: Safari Reader, private browsing, tabs on iPad Inside Apple's iOS 5: PC Free setup, keyboard shortcuts From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jun 9 15:09:36 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:09:36 +0100 Subject: Lion Accessibility Message-ID: Hi all, I am not sure if you have all seen this, but thought I would post anyway. Here is a snippet from the Apple website and gives us a taste of what to expect in Lion with VoiceOver etc. Back to top Accessibility International voices VoiceOver in OS X Lion includes built-in voices that speak 23 languages: Chinese (Hong Kong), Chinese (China), Chinese (Taiwan), Danish, Dutch, English (U.S.), English (UK), English (Australia), Finnish, French (France), French (Canada), German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese (Brazil), Portuguese (Portugal), Russian, Spanish (Spain), Spanish (Mexico), and Swedish. High-quality voices In addition to the 23 built-in voices in Lion, you can download higher-quality versions of the languages from VoiceOver Utility. Choose Customize from the Voice pop-up menu in the Speech pane. Set up your Mac in any language Lion supports 23 different languages in VoiceOver, so you can set up your Mac in almost any language. Picture-in-picture zoom The screen zoom feature in Lion features a picture-in-picture view, allowing you to see the zoomed area in a separate window while keeping the rest of the screen at its native size. Choose to have the window follow the cursor, or keep the window in one place to show only areas you navigate. International braille tables Lion includes built-in support for more than 80 new braille tables supporting a wide range of languages. Braille verbosity settings You can now specify the default verbosity level (amount of information you want to receive) for use with a refreshable braille display. And you can specify verbosity levels for specific controls, such as applications, checkboxes, and Dock items, as well as headings, images, and links. High-resolution cursor In Lion, the cursor is crisp and sharp at larger sizes. Improved drag and drop VoiceOver in Lion offers an improved drag-and-drop experience for users who are blind or have difficulty seeing. Simply mark the item you want to drag, then mark the destination ? OS X moves it into place. VoiceOver activities With VoiceOver activities, you can create groups of preferences for specific uses. For example, you can create an activity to use a certain voice and faster speaking rate when you?re shopping online catalogs. Create a second activity to use a different voice and slower speaking rate when you?re reading online newspapers. You can switch activities manually or have VoiceOver switch automatically based on the applications you use. Single-letter quick navigation in web pages Assign VoiceOver commands to single keys to make it even easier to browse the web using VoiceOver. Search in VoiceOver Utility VoiceOver Utility includes a search field to help you find the feature you?re looking for. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 17:01:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:01:53 -0700 Subject: Mac troubleshooting FAQ: iCal and Mail Message-ID: <80C717CE-D1AD-4440-96A1-D33F933EF129@gmail.com> Mac troubleshooting FAQ: iCal and Mail Address Book, iCal, and Mail are super-handy. But they're not always fool-proof. Chris Breen answers the most common troubleshooting questions about these three apps. http://bit.ly/iNqv9v From rattail4 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 17:35:58 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (mike) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:35:58 -0400 Subject: resetting Mac drivers Message-ID: Hey all, Ever since I reinstalled snow Leopard on my Mac I've been having much slower internet speeds than I used too. I was wondering if there was a way to reinstall drivers for airport, or if there's anything else that could be done to try and fix this. All my other computers have no issues with internet speeds, but my Mac struggles to download even the smallest things now. Any help would be gratefully taken. From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 18:25:04 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:25:04 -0400 Subject: resetting Mac drivers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It probably is not a driver issue. I assume you have a local router? If so try bringing up the network utility and doing a ping to your router and see if all the packets are returned. Sometimes address assignment messes up in your network and two different computers think they should be the same. There are of course other possibilities, and there are a couple tools that will adjust Network buffer size or MSS sizes as might be appropriate depending on how reliable and fast your network is. Of course since the Mac OS has a very similar Network stack to FreeBSD you could look at their forums if you want to muck around in the terminal. JOnathan Jonathan C. Cohn joncohn at cox.net On Jun 9, 2011, at 12:35 PM, mike wrote: > Hey all, > Ever since I reinstalled snow Leopard on my Mac I've been having much slower internet speeds than I used too. I was wondering if there was a way to reinstall drivers for airport, or if there's anything else that could be done to try and fix this. All my other computers have no issues with internet speeds, but my Mac struggles to download even the smallest things now. Any help would be gratefully taken. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Thu Jun 9 19:37:54 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:37:54 -0400 Subject: using dictation apps on the Iphone Message-ID: <46D158CB-B4DD-4BA1-AB1A-16BB7EF7D1CE@insightbb.com> Hello, I have a friend who was wondering if you could use a voice dictation program on the Iphone instead of the keyboard? He has some problems with his hands and this would be helpful. he is thinking about buying the Iphone but was interested in voice recognition apps. I saw one called dragon dictation and found you could use it to put messages on the e-mail program and on facebook and twitter. the only issue I found was trying to get it to put in the e-mail address. the way it looks to me is you would still have to use the keyboard for that. does anyone have any suggestions that I might be able to pass along? Thank you in advance. Bill Deatherage From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jun 9 19:38:43 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:38:43 +0100 Subject: resetting Mac drivers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael May I suggest you use something like Cocktail or Onyx to do maintenance on your system. Free up internet caches and other such things. It can make a world of difference. Gordon On 9 Jun 2011, at 17:35, mike wrote: Hey all, Ever since I reinstalled snow Leopard on my Mac I've been having much slower internet speeds than I used too. I was wondering if there was a way to reinstall drivers for airport, or if there's anything else that could be done to try and fix this. All my other computers have no issues with internet speeds, but my Mac struggles to download even the smallest things now. Any help would be gratefully taken. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gunn at tznet.com Thu Jun 9 19:49:11 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (gunn at tznet.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:49:11 -0400 Subject: resetting Mac drivers Message-ID: <380-22011649184911491@M2W122.mail2web.com> Hello Mike: I would also suggest do software update. I've seen in the past where there was an Airport utility update. If I understand you are connected via WIFI. Take care, John Original Message: ----------------- From: mike rattail4 at gmail.com Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:35:58 -0400 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: resetting Mac drivers Hey all, Ever since I reinstalled snow Leopard on my Mac I've been having much slower internet speeds than I used too. I was wondering if there was a way to reinstall drivers for airport, or if there's anything else that could be done to try and fix this. All my other computers have no issues with internet speeds, but my Mac struggles to download even the smallest things now. Any help would be gratefully taken. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Thu Jun 9 19:54:43 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:54:43 +0100 Subject: using dictation apps on the Iphone In-Reply-To: <46D158CB-B4DD-4BA1-AB1A-16BB7EF7D1CE@insightbb.com> References: <46D158CB-B4DD-4BA1-AB1A-16BB7EF7D1CE@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <4DF116F3.7080006@googlemail.com> Hi Bill. Would he be ok with a bluetooth keyboard? Please respond as soon as possible then I can suggest one he may like. Chat soon. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird On 09/06/2011 19:37, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I have a friend who was wondering if you could use a voice dictation program on the Iphone instead of the keyboard? He has some problems with his hands and this would be helpful. he is thinking about buying the Iphone but was interested in voice recognition apps. I saw one called dragon dictation and found you could use it to put messages on the e-mail program and on facebook and twitter. the only issue I found was trying to get it to put in the e-mail address. the way it looks to me is you would still have to use the keyboard for that. does anyone have any suggestions that I might be able to pass along? > Thank you in advance. > Bill Deatherage > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From rattail4 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 20:30:02 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (mike) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:30:02 -0400 Subject: resetting Mac drivers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -------------------------------------------- I've tried that already, didn't improve much at all------ From: "Gordon Smith" Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 14:38 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Re: resetting Mac drivers > Michael > > May I suggest you use something like Cocktail or Onyx to do maintenance on > your system. Free up internet caches and other such things. It can make > a world of difference. > > Gordon > > > On 9 Jun 2011, at 17:35, mike wrote: > > Hey all, > Ever since I reinstalled snow Leopard on my Mac I've been having much > slower internet speeds than I used too. I was wondering if there was a way > to reinstall drivers for airport, or if there's anything else that could > be done to try and fix this. All my other computers have no issues with > internet speeds, but my Mac struggles to download even the smallest things > now. Any help would be gratefully taken. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Thu Jun 9 20:34:30 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:34:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: using dictation apps on the Iphone In-Reply-To: <46D158CB-B4DD-4BA1-AB1A-16BB7EF7D1CE@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <1ea16f49-0b9d-ecb6-f644-aee9fa277bd7@me.com> Hi Bill, On Jun 09, 2011, at 08:37 AM, William Deatherage ?wrote: Hello, I have a friend who was wondering if you could use a voice dictation program on the Iphone instead of the keyboard? He has some problems with his hands and this would be helpful. he is thinking about buying the Iphone but was interested in voice recognition apps. I saw one called dragon dictation and found you could use it to put messages on the e-mail program and on facebook and twitter. the only issue I found was trying to get it to put in the e-mail address. the way it looks to me is you would still have to use the keyboard for that. does anyone have any suggestions that I might be able to pass along? Thank you in advance. Bill Deatherage ? If you are using Dragon Dictation and want to send the transcribed text that you have dictated via e-mail, you don't have to type the e-mail address provided it is in your address book. ?Just double tap in the "To:" field as though you were going to enter edit mode to type in the address. ?At that point, flick right, and you'll find an "Add from address book" button. ?Move your finger to the right side of the screen and touch it. ?You'll hear "Table Index, adjustable". ?Do a double tap and hold pass through gesture and, with your finger still against the screen, slide up or down to the letter of the name you wish to add. ?Then touch the center of the screen and flick right (or left) until you find the name of the person you want to send the message to, and double tap to select. ? If your friend can't manage the pass-through gesture, and particularly if his address book is not long, he can just do a two finger flick up "Read all" gesture to have the names in his address book read out automatically from the beginning of the alphabet. ?Then he can stop the continuous reading when the name he wants is read, with a two finger tap to the screen. ?(If he's gone past the name, he can flick left to go back, or flick right to go forwards. Or, he can start up the continuous reading mode again from his current position with a two finger flick down.) ?To select the name for the e-mail address field, just double tap. An alternative (paid) app if you want more options for integration with Twitter, Facebook, etc. is Vlingo. I think the accuracy of voice recognition is better with the Nuance Dragon Dictation engine, which I think is probably the primary consideration for your friend, but if he spends all his time with social media apps and want the extra features, would prefer the options of the paid app vs. the free Dragon app, and doesn't find the voice recognition accuracy of Vlingo an issue (or is willing to put up with it), that's another option. ?Dragon Dication can handle voice transcription in French, German, Italian, Spanish, Japanese, and Chinese in addition to English. ?I think that Vlingo only supports English. ?Dragon also seems to have the highest accuracy of transcription (for me) in other languages, although the Google Translation app does not do badly (when used for speech recognition and transcription in other languages -- this is not its intended purpose, though.) HTH. ?Cheers, Esther From moriond at mac.com Thu Jun 9 20:54:32 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:54:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: using dictation apps on the Iphone In-Reply-To: <46D158CB-B4DD-4BA1-AB1A-16BB7EF7D1CE@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Hi Bill, Sorry, I should have added that when you double tap in the "To:" field of the e-mail message you wish to send, then flick right to the "Add from Address Book" button, you want to double tap that button to go to your address book. ?At that point you can quickly navigate to the name of the receipient by either using the "table index" at the right side of the screen, or by doing a "read all" two finger flick up gesture to have VoiceOver read through your entire address book and do a two-finger tap to stop at the correct entry. In either navigation method, double tap your selection once you've reached it to add the address. Cheers, Esther From billd at insightbb.com Thu Jun 9 21:11:52 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:11:52 -0400 Subject: using dictation apps on the Iphone In-Reply-To: <4DF116F3.7080006@googlemail.com> References: <46D158CB-B4DD-4BA1-AB1A-16BB7EF7D1CE@insightbb.com> <4DF116F3.7080006@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <8105A5B9-8196-4C44-851A-049F3E5C20B0@insightbb.com> Hi, I think that might work. Bill Deatherage From billd at insightbb.com Thu Jun 9 21:15:16 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:15:16 -0400 Subject: using dictation apps on the Iphone In-Reply-To: <1ea16f49-0b9d-ecb6-f644-aee9fa277bd7@me.com> References: <1ea16f49-0b9d-ecb6-f644-aee9fa277bd7@me.com> Message-ID: Hello, Thanks for the information. Bill Deatherage? From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Jun 9 20:14:29 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:14:29 +0100 Subject: using dictation apps on the Iphone In-Reply-To: <46D158CB-B4DD-4BA1-AB1A-16BB7EF7D1CE@insightbb.com> References: <46D158CB-B4DD-4BA1-AB1A-16BB7EF7D1CE@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Hello Bill, On 9 Jun 2011, at 19:37, William Deatherage wrote: > I have a friend who was wondering if you could use a voice dictation program on the Iphone instead of the keyboard? He has some problems with his hands and this would be helpful. he is thinking about buying the Iphone but was interested in voice recognition apps. I saw one called dragon dictation and found you could use it to put messages on the e-mail program and on facebook and twitter. the only issue I found was trying to get it to put in the e-mail address. the way it looks to me is you would still have to use the keyboard for that. does anyone have any suggestions that I might be able to pass along? There is an app called Vlingo, which will allow your friend to dictate what he wants to. However, because of various limitations, your friend will still need to use the touch screen to copy his dictated material into a text message or E-Mail etc. I'm sure it goes without saying, but the more he practices with it, the bette the app will be at recognising his voice. But from what I've seen, we have a friend who has similar difficulties, the app seems to do a pretty good job straight off the bat. You'll find Vlingo in the ITunes App Store TC :) James > Hello, > I have a friend who was wondering if you could use a voice dictation program on the Iphone instead of the keyboard? He has some problems with his hands and this would be helpful. he is thinking about buying the Iphone but was interested in voice recognition apps. I saw one called dragon dictation and found you could use it to put messages on the e-mail program and on facebook and twitter. the only issue I found was trying to get it to put in the e-mail address. the way it looks to me is you would still have to use the keyboard for that. does anyone have any suggestions that I might be able to pass along? > Thank you in advance. > Bill Deatherage > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From stuartyoung at samobile.net Thu Jun 9 22:47:32 2011 From: stuartyoung at samobile.net (Stuart Young) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:47:32 -0400 Subject: dragon dictate for the mac Message-ID: <20110609214732.11608.26623@domU-12-31-38-04-0E-D6.compute-1.internal> Hi all does anyone know how usable is the program dragon dictate for mac with voice over?. Regards Stuart. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 01:03:26 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:03:26 -0700 Subject: dragon dictate for the mac In-Reply-To: <20110609214732.11608.26623@domU-12-31-38-04-0E-D6.compute-1.internal> References: <20110609214732.11608.26623@domU-12-31-38-04-0E-D6.compute-1.internal> Message-ID: I know of someone who used it but vo for him atleast must be off as it is for him a resources hog. i've seen this in person. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 9, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Stuart Young wrote: > Hi all > does anyone know how usable is the program dragon dictate for mac with voice over?. > Regards Stuart. > > -- > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 01:16:25 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:16:25 -0700 Subject: Report: Convenience means iTunes users will pay for iTunes Match Message-ID: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> I still use cds believe it or not and will continue to do so until the format dies completely. I keep all of my back ups and am a posed to this in every single way. But in the end it's to each his or her own. Report: Convenience means iTunes users will pay for iTunes Match Though some iCloud functionality is already available to iTunes users (purchase history and Automatic Downloads, specifically), the paid iTunes Match service doesn?t launch until fall. But The NPD Group thinks there will be ample demand for such a service when it does arrive, according to details from an upcoming report it shared with us. But why are users so eager to sign up? Forty-six percent of iTunes users surveyed by The NPD Group for its upcoming ?iTunes User Report? expressed interest in signing up for a paid cloud music service, were Apple to offer one. Of course, since Monday, we?ve learned Apple does intend to offer such a service, in the form of iTunes Match. iTunes Match will scan a user?s local iTunes library, and provide access to high quality AAC files of songs found for direct download to any device associated with their iTunes account. Scanned music doesn?t necessarily have to come from the iTunes Store, either, which is a cause for concern for some, and excitement for others. It?s easy to say that users are interested in iTunes Match because it seems like it could amount to a possible amnesty regarding pirated music, but the details of Apple?s scan-and-match service weren?t known when NPD posed its question. Instead, it seems more likely the motivation stems mainly from the convenience a subscription cloud music service provides, owing to the success of mobile devices like the iPhone and iPad. NPD entertainment industry analyst thinks the survey is a good indication that Apple chose the right time to launch a fee-based service that provides cloud music access to iTunes users: It?s notable that even before Apple?s announcement this week, nearly half of iTunes users had some interest in a paid cloud-based music service. As device penetration continues to grow, and as consumers demand easier access to their music from multiple devices, we can expect interest in these services from Apple and others to continue to rise. That nearly half of iTunes users said they were willing to pay for cloud music access is very promising for Apple, considering how much of a shift it represents from the current way of doing things. It?s even better news for the company that younger iTunes customers appear even more amenable to the idea: 57 percent of teens aged 13 to 17 responded positively to the idea, indicating that there?s a good chance cloud music adoption will grow with time. The only hurdle might be that NPD?s analysis found that the ideal average price for paid iTunes cloud music service is $17 per year, which is a fair bit shy of the nearly $25 Apple is asking. Also, NPD?s question to iTunes users did include the word ?streaming? in its definition of a cloud service. iCloud and iTunes Match don?t provide streaming per se, but they do provide access to your entire library from any device where you have internet access, another condition set by NPD, and, as Cult of Mac points out, streaming just isn?t that useful to most Americans because of bandwidth data caps. If Apple can sign up anywhere near half of the 160 million iTunes users it had at last official count, iTunes Match will be a considerable success. Are you planning on contributing to that success? http://bit.ly/mqhokR From tmallalieu at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 03:48:49 2011 From: tmallalieu at gmail.com (Thuy Mallalieu) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 03:48:49 +0100 Subject: My new keyboard In-Reply-To: <4DEE3EF7.5010206@googlemail.com> References: <4DEDFEAE.3010104@googlemail.com> <4DEE3EF7.5010206@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi Chris and all. I bought the Freedom Pro which is the delux version of the iConnex, but I found that the alignment of the letter B was too far across to the right in order to accommodate the hinge. This seemed to offset the right half of the bottom row for me and I actually prefer the layout of Freedom's older Universal range. Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jun 2011, at 16:08, chris hallsworth wrote: > Hi Lewis. > It cost me ?50 and I got it from www.play.com. I think the one you got was the i-Connex Mini. Not sure of the differences but I do know a mini version exists. > Take care. > > > Chris Hallsworth > Sent from Thunderbird > > On 07/06/2011 15:57, Lewis Crack wrote: >> Hi Chris. >> >> How much was it? I bought one from Amazon for ?22 and it wasn't the keyboard I expected. It was tiny, and it didn't fold down. >> It must be a different Freedom i-Connex Keyboard that I looked at. >> Regards. >> Lewis. >> On 7 Jun 2011, at 11:53, Ian McNamara wrote: >> >>> hi chris how big is it as i am thinking of getting a blue tooth key board for my ipod and for when i get an iphone to. >>> >>> thanks Ian McNamara >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 06:16:03 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 06:16:03 +0100 Subject: crate daisy Message-ID: <25124D0D-217C-4131-A58A-8C45582A4EA8@gmail.com> hi does anyone know a quick way to make daisy files on the mac? From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Jun 10 08:12:27 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:12:27 +0200 Subject: VueScan working great for OCR Message-ID: <4313F837-2815-4E29-B1EA-59ADDB9BCB75@anarchie.org.uk> I've been in contact with Ed Hamrick, the developer of VueScan. The latest version of VueScan now works great. I just had to press Cmd-N to produce a beautiful RTF file of an article from New SCientist magazine. I haven't yet got the RTF file to open automatically, but I'm working on it. As far as I'm concerned, this is the simplest OCR solution on the Mac so far. You can download VueScan from: http://www.hamrick.com/ There are two Mac versions, 32 bit and 64 bit. I tested the 64 bit version. Cheers, Anne From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Jun 10 08:40:12 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:40:12 +0200 Subject: VueScan settings Message-ID: <57E50DD5-D790-4F3F-BB39-0B8F0CB8736F@anarchie.org.uk> Hello everyone, Below are the settings for VueScan. Cheers, Anne 1) Select Input; 1.1) Task: Scan to file; 1.2) Source: Your scanner; 1.3) Media: Text; 1.4) Media size: Auto; 1.5) Preview resolution: 300 dpi; 1.6) Scan resolution: 300 dpi; 2) Select Output; 2.1) Default folder: Folder you have created for this purpose; 2.2) Printed size: Scan size; 2.3) TIFF file: unchecked check box; 2.4) JPEG file: unchecked check box; 2.5) PDF file: unchecked check box; 2.6) OCR text file: checked check box; 2.7) OCR text file name: Name for document being scanned; 2.8) OCR text multi page: check or uncheck as needed; 2.9) Raw file: unchecked check box; 3) Select Prefs; 3.1) Language: Choose your language out of the 29 available; 3.2) Font size (pt): 16; 3.3 Crop units: mm; 3.4) Printed units: mm; 3.5 External viewer: unchecked check box; 3.6) External editor: checked check box; 3.7) Editor: TextEdit. From mike at busboom.at Fri Jun 10 10:51:51 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:51:51 +0200 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro V2 and "Track changes" with Voice Over Message-ID: <053ADC74-EA3E-4AE0-9929-A29702613950@busboom.at> Greetings from a really nice little outdoor cafe here in Vienna's eighth district! I notice that Nisus Writer Pro version 2 is out and I was wondering if anyone has had the opportunity to try out the "Track Changes" feature with Voice Over. I would like to be able to configure everything in a way that, when correcting a text, I only hear my changes, not the original version of the document. So as soon as I encounter a mistake, I would edit it and subsequently, only hear the text as I finally rendered it. Since I need to do a lot of editing, I really need for this feature to work seamlessly. Currently, when editing texts where customers need to see both the original text, as well as the changes I make, I use MS Word under Windows along with Window-Eyes. I'd love to be able to accomplish the same tasks under SL and use Nisus Writer Pro. Thanks in advance for any feedback, Mike From sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk Fri Jun 10 11:34:58 2011 From: sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk (Sunil Peck) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:34:58 +0100 Subject: Moving files to a new folder Message-ID: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A7107B@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Hi, I have over a hundred files in a folder which I want to move to a new folder. Once highlighted, how can I move or send them to that new folder? I want to avoid the copy and paste option because I don't want to have to go back and delete all the files from the original folder once I've moved them to where I want them to be. I'd appreciate any help - please can you tell me what the keyboard commands are if it involves dragging and dropping? Cheers Sunil ________________________________ Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by guarantee (number 520866). Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. Our VAT number is 805156939. Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the views of Scope. From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jun 10 13:19:49 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:19:49 +0100 Subject: Has anyone found a way of saving partially completed scans in ABBEY Finereader Express? Message-ID: <55447C36-9436-4E0D-8836-13745C1DB497@mac-access.net> Good afternoon listers, I am in the middle of a project, and I would like to save my current position. However, I can find no way of saving the images that I have currently scanned, without converting them. This defeats the object as I don't want to end up with lots of files. The option to "Save the image" in the Files menu is dimmed. The help talks about a "Save" button, but I cannot locate this. Has anyone discovered how to do this please? Thanks TC :) James From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 10 13:35:34 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:35:34 +1000 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro V2 and "Track changes" with Voice Over In-Reply-To: <053ADC74-EA3E-4AE0-9929-A29702613950@busboom.at> References: <053ADC74-EA3E-4AE0-9929-A29702613950@busboom.at> Message-ID: Have you tried this feature in Nisus Writer Pro to see what happens? This is a feature of the software I've not tried yet. On 10/06/2011, at 7:51 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Greetings from a really nice little outdoor cafe here in Vienna's eighth district! > > I notice that Nisus Writer Pro version 2 is out and I was wondering if anyone has had the opportunity to try out the "Track Changes" feature with Voice Over. I would like to be able to configure everything in a way that, when correcting a text, I only hear my changes, not the original version of the document. So as soon as I encounter a mistake, I would edit it and subsequently, only hear the text as I finally rendered it. Since I need to do a lot of editing, I really need for this feature to work seamlessly. > > Currently, when editing texts where customers need to see both the original text, as well as the changes I make, I use MS Word under Windows along with Window-Eyes. I'd love to be able to accomplish the same tasks under SL and use Nisus Writer Pro. > > Thanks in advance for any feedback, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjligon at msn.com Fri Jun 10 14:20:07 2011 From: cjligon at msn.com (Cornell Ligon) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:20:07 -0400 Subject: Moving files to a new folder In-Reply-To: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A7107B@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A7107B@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: I cannot locate the "move to" option in Win 7. However, if you decide to go cut and paste... before you paste, select all the files, copy the files, and control x to remove from the initial folder before pasting into the new one. HTH! Best Regards, Cornell > From: sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:34:58 +0100 > Subject: Moving files to a new folder > > Hi, > > I have over a hundred files in a folder which I want to move to a new folder. Once highlighted, how can I move or send them to that new folder? I want to avoid the copy and paste option because I don't want to have to go back and delete all the files from the original folder once I've moved them to where I want them to be. > > I'd appreciate any help - please can you tell me what the keyboard commands are if it involves dragging and dropping? > > Cheers > Sunil > > > > > ________________________________ > Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by > guarantee (number 520866). > Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. > Our VAT number is 805156939. > > > Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk > > This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential > and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been > addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this > message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are > required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the > sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, > or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use > of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the > intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with > it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the > views of Scope. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk Fri Jun 10 14:22:29 2011 From: sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk (Sunil Peck) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:22:29 +0100 Subject: Moving files to a new folder In-Reply-To: References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A7107B@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A71104@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> I'm not using Windows I'm using the Mac OS but thanks. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Cornell Ligon Sent: 10 June 2011 14:20 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: RE: Moving files to a new folder I cannot locate the "move to" option in Win 7. However, if you decide to go cut and paste... before you paste, select all the files, copy the files, and control x to remove from the initial folder before pasting into the new one. HTH! Best Regards, Cornell > From: sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:34:58 +0100 > Subject: Moving files to a new folder > > Hi, > > I have over a hundred files in a folder which I want to move to a new folder. Once highlighted, how can I move or send them to that new folder? I want to avoid the copy and paste option because I don't want to have to go back and delete all the files from the original folder once I've moved them to where I want them to be. > > I'd appreciate any help - please can you tell me what the keyboard commands are if it involves dragging and dropping? > > Cheers > Sunil > > > > > ________________________________ > Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by > guarantee (number 520866). > Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. > Our VAT number is 805156939. > > > Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk > > This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential and > are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been addressed > by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if > you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are required to > delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the sender > immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, or > printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use of > any information contained therein, by anyone other than the intended > recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with > it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the > views of Scope. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by guarantee (number 520866). Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. Our VAT number is 805156939. Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the views of Scope. From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 10 14:24:25 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 23:24:25 +1000 Subject: Express Invoice Message-ID: Okay, we often get people on list looking for business solutions in software so here's another possible candidate from NCH Software called Express Invoice. The software from this developer is usually quite usable and accessible. Haven't tried this software myself though as I have no need for it. From chaas0217 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 14:51:57 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:51:57 -0600 Subject: VueScan settings In-Reply-To: <57E50DD5-D790-4F3F-BB39-0B8F0CB8736F@anarchie.org.uk> References: <57E50DD5-D790-4F3F-BB39-0B8F0CB8736F@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Anne: Thanks for providing these. I can't tell you how many times I tried to set this up and gave up because of just not understanding what to put where. Thank you from the bottom of my ... screen.:) Carolyn On Jun 10, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Below are the settings for VueScan. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > 1) Select Input; > 1.1) Task: Scan to file; > 1.2) Source: Your scanner; > 1.3) Media: Text; > 1.4) Media size: Auto; > 1.5) Preview resolution: 300 dpi; > 1.6) Scan resolution: 300 dpi; > 2) Select Output; > 2.1) Default folder: Folder you have created for this purpose; > 2.2) Printed size: Scan size; > 2.3) TIFF file: unchecked check box; > 2.4) JPEG file: unchecked check box; > 2.5) PDF file: unchecked check box; > 2.6) OCR text file: checked check box; > 2.7) OCR text file name: Name for document being scanned; > 2.8) OCR text multi page: check or uncheck as needed; > 2.9) Raw file: unchecked check box; > 3) Select Prefs; > 3.1) Language: Choose your language out of the 29 available; > 3.2) Font size (pt): 16; > 3.3 Crop units: mm; > 3.4) Printed units: mm; > 3.5 External viewer: unchecked check box; > 3.6) External editor: checked check box; > 3.7) Editor: TextEdit. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 10 15:29:59 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 00:29:59 +1000 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro V2 and "Track changes" with Voice Over In-Reply-To: References: <053ADC74-EA3E-4AE0-9929-A29702613950@busboom.at> Message-ID: <5B7289CA-23F9-4893-A2CA-3BFF7D035EDF@internode.on.net> Hi! I've just tried this feature, thanks for the email alerting me to this as I'm going to find the "Track Changes" feature very useful myself for the reviews and other stuff I write so as you can gather from this I've found it accessible thus far. I can see the changes I've made, edit them and choose to "Accept" or "Deny" them. My only complaint about the "Track Changes" feature was that I had to wade through over 300 pages of Nusus Writer Pro manual to find out how the feature worked so perhaps I wasted time there , I look at the workings of this function now and realise that its easily manipulated and set out in a straight forward manner from the "Tools" menu of Nisus Writer Pro. On 10/06/2011, at 10:35 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Have you tried this feature in Nisus Writer Pro to see what happens? This is a feature of the software I've not tried yet. > > > On 10/06/2011, at 7:51 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Greetings from a really nice little outdoor cafe here in Vienna's eighth district! >> >> I notice that Nisus Writer Pro version 2 is out and I was wondering if anyone has had the opportunity to try out the "Track Changes" feature with Voice Over. I would like to be able to configure everything in a way that, when correcting a text, I only hear my changes, not the original version of the document. So as soon as I encounter a mistake, I would edit it and subsequently, only hear the text as I finally rendered it. Since I need to do a lot of editing, I really need for this feature to work seamlessly. >> >> Currently, when editing texts where customers need to see both the original text, as well as the changes I make, I use MS Word under Windows along with Window-Eyes. I'd love to be able to accomplish the same tasks under SL and use Nisus Writer Pro. >> >> Thanks in advance for any feedback, >> >> Mike >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Fri Jun 10 16:00:21 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:00:21 +0200 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro V2 and "Track changes" with Voice Over In-Reply-To: <5B7289CA-23F9-4893-A2CA-3BFF7D035EDF@internode.on.net> References: <053ADC74-EA3E-4AE0-9929-A29702613950@busboom.at> <5B7289CA-23F9-4893-A2CA-3BFF7D035EDF@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hello Dane, I now have the demo version of Nisus Writer Pro and can try out the feature, too. One thing that would really interest me before starting is this: Is there a way to listen to the document, just with your changes, while not having to listen to the original? In other words, is it possible, while you are editing, to just hear the text with your changes, while not hearing the original version of something that you have just corrected? Reading what I just wrote, I wouldn't be surprised if you don't quite understand what I am trying to say. Come to think of it, I barely understand it. :) Thanks, Mike On 10,Jun,2011, at 4:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > I've just tried this feature, thanks for the email alerting me to this as I'm going to find the "Track Changes" feature very useful myself for the reviews and other stuff I write so as you can gather from this I've found it accessible thus far. > > I can see the changes I've made, edit them and choose to "Accept" or "Deny" them. > > My only complaint about the "Track Changes" feature was that I had to wade through over 300 pages of Nusus Writer Pro manual to find out how the feature worked so perhaps I wasted time there , I look at the workings of this function now and realise that its easily manipulated and set out in a straight forward manner from the "Tools" menu of Nisus Writer Pro. > > > On 10/06/2011, at 10:35 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Have you tried this feature in Nisus Writer Pro to see what happens? This is a feature of the software I've not tried yet. >> >> >> On 10/06/2011, at 7:51 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Greetings from a really nice little outdoor cafe here in Vienna's eighth district! >>> >>> I notice that Nisus Writer Pro version 2 is out and I was wondering if anyone has had the opportunity to try out the "Track Changes" feature with Voice Over. I would like to be able to configure everything in a way that, when correcting a text, I only hear my changes, not the original version of the document. So as soon as I encounter a mistake, I would edit it and subsequently, only hear the text as I finally rendered it. Since I need to do a lot of editing, I really need for this feature to work seamlessly. >>> >>> Currently, when editing texts where customers need to see both the original text, as well as the changes I make, I use MS Word under Windows along with Window-Eyes. I'd love to be able to accomplish the same tasks under SL and use Nisus Writer Pro. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any feedback, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From adrian at dogfish.plus.com Fri Jun 10 16:04:45 2011 From: adrian at dogfish.plus.com (Adrian Higginbotham) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:04:45 +0100 Subject: cross-platform password manager Message-ID: <000801cc277f$bd0cbc00$37263400$@plus.com> Hi - can anyone recommend a password management utility that will work across OSX, windows and ios and which is accessible with screenreaders on all 3? I think I've seen reference to 1password Is this the AgileBits product? http://agilebits.com/products/one_password so many seem to have similar names. As you have to purchase a licence for each platform I'm reluctant to do so without some assurance that it's accessible on all 3. Anything else that costs less than $100 for the cross platform support? Thanks Adrian Higginbotham E: Adrian at dogfish.plus.com Twitter: @AHiggi From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Fri Jun 10 16:09:27 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Colin M) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:09:27 +0100 Subject: Moving files to a new folder In-Reply-To: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A71104@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A7107B@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A71104@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Sunil! The drag and drop with vo is a bit hit and miss! But some people have used a apple script that does all the work for you! There should be quite a few posts in the archive! Also there is a software called move addict or something like that! Which I think you have to buy! From posts about that software it's very good! This will be also in the archives! Colin On 10 Jun 2011, at 14:22, Sunil Peck wrote: > I'm not using Windows I'm using the Mac OS but thanks. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mail to:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Cornell Ligon > Sent: 10 June 2011 14:20 > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Subject: RE: Moving files to a new folder > > > > I cannot locate the "move to" option in Win 7. However, if you decide to go cut and paste... before you paste, select all the files, copy the files, and control x to remove from the initial folder before pasting into the new one. > HTH! > > Best Regards, Cornell > > > > >> From: sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk >> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:34:58 +0100 >> Subject: Moving files to a new folder >> >> Hi, >> >> I have over a hundred files in a folder which I want to move to a new folder. Once highlighted, how can I move or send them to that new folder? I want to avoid the copy and paste option because I don't want to have to go back and delete all the files from the original folder once I've moved them to where I want them to be. >> >> I'd appreciate any help - please can you tell me what the keyboard commands are if it involves dragging and dropping? >> >> Cheers >> Sunil >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by >> guarantee (number 520866). >> Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. >> Our VAT number is 805156939. >> >> >> Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk >> >> This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential and >> are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been addressed >> by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged >> material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if >> you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are required to >> delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the sender >> immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, or >> printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use of >> any information contained therein, by anyone other than the intended >> recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. >> >> Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with >> it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the >> views of Scope. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by > guarantee (number 520866). > Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. > Our VAT number is 805156939. > > > Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk > > This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential > and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been > addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this > message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are > required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the > sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, > or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use > of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the > intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with > it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the > views of Scope. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Jun 10 16:40:14 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:40:14 +0100 Subject: cross-platform password manager In-Reply-To: <000801cc277f$bd0cbc00$37263400$@plus.com> References: <000801cc277f$bd0cbc00$37263400$@plus.com> Message-ID: Hello, I have just purchased 1 password and it is certainly accessible on Mac. There is a WIndows version which I have not yet tried but have every confidence that it will work with my windows screen reader. YOu can buy a platform specific version for $39. or you can buy a package of the Mac and Windows versions for $60. There is also an IOS version. YOu can download a 30 day free trial. I also wanted a cross platform password and secure data manager and this seems to fit the bill. Best wishes?. Paul Hopewell On 10 Jun 2011, at 16:04, Adrian Higginbotham wrote: > Hi - can anyone recommend a password management utility that will work > across OSX, windows and ios and which is accessible with screenreaders on > all 3? > > I think I've seen reference to 1password > > Is this the AgileBits product? > > http://agilebits.com/products/one_password > > so many seem to have similar names. > > As you have to purchase a licence for each platform I'm reluctant to do so > without some assurance that it's accessible on all 3. > > > > Anything else that costs less than $100 for the cross platform support? > > > > Thanks > > > > Adrian Higginbotham > > E: Adrian at dogfish.plus.com > > Twitter: @AHiggi > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 10 17:01:03 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:01:03 +1000 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro V2 and "Track changes" with Voice Over In-Reply-To: References: <053ADC74-EA3E-4AE0-9929-A29702613950@busboom.at> <5B7289CA-23F9-4893-A2CA-3BFF7D035EDF@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4DF23FBF.5070702@internode.on.net> Yep I know what you're talking about, the original text before change is displayed and you can read it with Voiceover, you'll find all you need in the "Track Changes" menu under Nisus Tools menu, a dialogue box comes up and you choose whether to accept the changes or not once you've reviewed them. On 11/06/2011 1:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello Dane, > > I now have the demo version of Nisus Writer Pro and can try out the feature, too. One thing that would really interest me before starting is this: Is there a way to listen to the document, just with your changes, while not having to listen to the original? In other words, is it possible, while you are editing, to just hear the text with your changes, while not hearing the original version of something that you have just corrected? Reading what I just wrote, I wouldn't be surprised if you don't quite understand what I am trying to say. Come to think of it, I barely understand it. :) > > Thanks, > > Mike > > On 10,Jun,2011, at 4:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I've just tried this feature, thanks for the email alerting me to this as I'm going to find the "Track Changes" feature very useful myself for the reviews and other stuff I write so as you can gather from this I've found it accessible thus far. >> >> I can see the changes I've made, edit them and choose to "Accept" or "Deny" them. >> >> My only complaint about the "Track Changes" feature was that I had to wade through over 300 pages of Nusus Writer Pro manual to find out how the feature worked so perhaps I wasted time there, I look at the workings of this function now and realise that its easily manipulated and set out in a straight forward manner from the "Tools" menu of Nisus Writer Pro. >> >> >> On 10/06/2011, at 10:35 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Have you tried this feature in Nisus Writer Pro to see what happens? This is a feature of the software I've not tried yet. >>> >>> >>> On 10/06/2011, at 7:51 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> >>>> Greetings from a really nice little outdoor cafe here in Vienna's eighth district! >>>> >>>> I notice that Nisus Writer Pro version 2 is out and I was wondering if anyone has had the opportunity to try out the "Track Changes" feature with Voice Over. I would like to be able to configure everything in a way that, when correcting a text, I only hear my changes, not the original version of the document. So as soon as I encounter a mistake, I would edit it and subsequently, only hear the text as I finally rendered it. Since I need to do a lot of editing, I really need for this feature to work seamlessly. >>>> >>>> Currently, when editing texts where customers need to see both the original text, as well as the changes I make, I use MS Word under Windows along with Window-Eyes. I'd love to be able to accomplish the same tasks under SL and use Nisus Writer Pro. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for any feedback, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 10 17:02:05 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:02:05 +1000 Subject: cross-platform password manager In-Reply-To: <000801cc277f$bd0cbc00$37263400$@plus.com> References: <000801cc277f$bd0cbc00$37263400$@plus.com> Message-ID: <4DF23FFD.1010108@internode.on.net> Sure can! 1 Password at There are others too! I think Roboform is another 1, its accessible under Windows but not sure about the Mac version. On 11/06/2011 1:04 AM, Adrian Higginbotham wrote: > Hi - can anyone recommend a password management utility that will work > across OSX, windows and ios and which is accessible with screenreaders on > all 3? > > I think I've seen reference to 1password > > Is this the AgileBits product? > > http://agilebits.com/products/one_password > > so many seem to have similar names. > > As you have to purchase a licence for each platform I'm reluctant to do so > without some assurance that it's accessible on all 3. > > > > Anything else that costs less than $100 for the cross platform support? > > > > Thanks > > > > Adrian Higginbotham > > E: Adrian at dogfish.plus.com > > Twitter: @AHiggi > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 10 17:02:59 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:02:59 +1000 Subject: cross-platform password manager In-Reply-To: References: <000801cc277f$bd0cbc00$37263400$@plus.com> Message-ID: <4DF24033.1010703@internode.on.net> The Windows version is accessible yep, been using it since Beta but won't discuss it any further as its not a list topic . On 11/06/2011 1:40 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I have just purchased 1 password and it is certainly accessible on Mac. There is a WIndows version which I have not yet tried but have every confidence that it will work with my windows screen reader. YOu can buy a platform specific version for $39. or you can buy a package of the Mac and Windows versions for $60. There is also an IOS version. YOu can download a 30 day free trial. > I also wanted a cross platform password and secure data manager and this seems to fit the bill. > Best wishes?. > > Paul Hopewell > On 10 Jun 2011, at 16:04, Adrian Higginbotham wrote: > >> Hi - can anyone recommend a password management utility that will work >> across OSX, windows and ios and which is accessible with screenreaders on >> all 3? >> >> I think I've seen reference to 1password >> >> Is this the AgileBits product? >> >> http://agilebits.com/products/one_password >> >> so many seem to have similar names. >> >> As you have to purchase a licence for each platform I'm reluctant to do so >> without some assurance that it's accessible on all 3. >> >> >> >> Anything else that costs less than $100 for the cross platform support? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Adrian Higginbotham >> >> E: Adrian at dogfish.plus.com >> >> Twitter: @AHiggi >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 17:52:31 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:52:31 -0700 Subject: slightly o.t: Set Boot Camp partition to boot to Windows via command line Message-ID: <4EE48E69-99CA-411E-93A8-08B14EA5D877@gmail.com> Set Boot Camp partition to boot to Windows via command line I work in academia in a large 1:1 deployment of around 6,000 MacBooks. At one point in time when we made the switch to Macs an assessment testing software developer had not made a universal binary app yet and their PPC app just would not run right on Intel based Macs. So, I had to create and deploy a dual boot image for them. The thought had crossed my mind on how to allow managed users (with no admin rights) the ability to dual boot? I cannot use any boot loader that runs in EFI either because I have to have firmware passwords on the Macs via security protocols. So, I dug around in Terminal and was messing around with the bless command. If you execute this command: /usr/sbin/bless --device /dev/disk0s3 --setBoot --legacy --nextonly It will set the partition that lives on /dev/disk0s3 to boot for next restart only, and the -legacy option supports booting an OS that does not support EFI boot loaders. http://bit.ly/jnEpLo From moriond at mac.com Fri Jun 10 17:55:12 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 06:55:12 -1000 Subject: Script and software solution source sites for moving files [was Re: Moving files to a new folder] In-Reply-To: References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A7107B@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A71104@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: <2374F787-C0F9-4F11-B540-0B7A59F177FA@mac.com> Hi Sunil, Sunil wrote: >>> I have over a hundred files in a folder which I want to move to a new folder. Once highlighted, how can I move or send them to that new folder? I want to avoid the copy and paste option because I don't want to have to go back and delete all the files from the original folder once I've moved them to where I want them to be. Colin is correct that you have a few options for moving your folders with a "cut and paste" type of option: either to use scripts which you can optionally bind to a keyboard shortcut of your choosing or put into an Automator workflow, or to use a commercial product called "MoveAddict". I'll list a few of the script sources: 1) Move files script at the Italian Mac group's site for scripts (with English instructions and descriptions): http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english 2) Move file script (with optional Automator Workflow setup) at the I can work this thing site: http://icanworkthisthing.com/scripts/index.shtml 3) Move file script from Travis' softcon scripts pages: http://softcon.com/mac/scripts/ 4) Kapeli's moveAddict software application for Snow Leopard: http://kapeli.com/ Up till the end of last year I used scripts to move files and folders from the GUI, or used the command line in Terminal. (The actual version I used was slightly different from the ones listed, and predates the sources listed here; I ran it in an Automator workflow that was saved as a Finder action, so I could access it from the context menu of Finder after selecting files in order to choose the "move to" destination.) I've looked over, but not tried to implement, the script sources I've listed here. They seem pretty straight forward, and any of them should work for you. The Italian Mac group gives a lot of information and instructions with their scripts, and supplies separate links for both downloading their scripts and for instructions for each of their scripts, so it's a good source to use if you want detailed explanations. I'm now using moveAddict, because, apart from the convenience of using "cut" and "paste" shortcuts like Command-x and Command-v on selected Finder items, it provides an additional feature: it will give me the option of merging files in a folder rather than simply replacing if I move a folder onto another with some duplicated file name entries. The only possible issue is that I remember Lyn had some problems getting moveAddict working, and I don't recall whether this got resolved. The application is sold in the App Store, but if you buy moveAddict from there, you should still go to the kapeli web site to download the program, since their download includes a folder named "Accessibility" along with a "moveAddict Preferences.app" file that provides separate access to the moveAddict preferences pane for VoiceOver users. I believe that you don't have to set up any of the shortcuts -- by default Command-x will "cut" and Command-v will "paste' your files and folders. However, if you do redefine any of these keys you might have to restart to have the definitions take effect. HTH. Cheers, Esther From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 17:50:17 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:50:17 -0700 Subject: Bulk convert text files to PDF Message-ID: <86B3083B-9BA1-499C-9966-FEC66E22A4A3@gmail.com> I am not going to use this as I don't have to do this but this might be useful for those that want to do this or have a need. Bulk convert text files to PDF Here is a quick AppleScript droplet to bulk convert text files (plain text, rich text, html, some code files like C and javascript files...) to PDF format. Copy the following script into the AppleScript Editor (/Applications/Utilities/AppleScript Editor) and save it as an application. Then drag-and-drop files onto it to convert them to PDFs. on open theFiles set oldTID to AppleScript's text item delimiters repeat with thisFile in theFiles -- get file path as posix path set inputFilePath to POSIX path of thisFile -- create output path - same name with .pdf extension set AppleScript's text item delimiters to "." set outputFilePathBits to text items of inputFilePath set last text item of outputFilePathBits to "pdf" set outputFilePath to outputF ... http://bit.ly/kSkgYl From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jun 10 19:24:18 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:24:18 -0500 Subject: Moving files to a new folder In-Reply-To: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A7107B@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A7107B@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: <4D1EA05D-3E11-4C56-A780-A2788EC1039A@softcon.com> And, there's always the old faithful fallback, terminal. Highlight the folder with the files you want to move (assuming you want to move all the files in that folder), press command-c to copy them, then open terminal and use the cd command to go to the folder you want to put them in. I.E. cd ~/documents/secondFolder Then type mv followed by a space, then hit command-v, backspace (pasting from finder puts a space after the file names) then type a * character (assuming finder puts a trailing slash (/) character which it doe by default if you highlight the folder and not a filename), Type a ./ (that's a period followed by a slash which is the one on the question mark, not the one above the return key) period slash means current location, which is why you need to change directory (cd) into the place you want the files to be located. then press enter. That will instantly move all the files in that folder into your current location. There's various other methods of doing this with terminal, most of which consist of typing longer paths and the like, but I send this one to try to keep things simple, it's complicated enough in the explanation, although the process is quite simple once you figure it all out. I'd add some disclaimers about moving across file systems and physical drives, but that would confuse the matter, and that's already been covered in other posts anyhow, so if needed, those bits of info are left as an exercise for the reader. hth. From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jun 10 20:20:42 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:20:42 -0500 Subject: a few queestions about dock, applications menu, and desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In case you haven't gotten a reply yet. The doc is kind of like an applications toolbar. It is supposed to hold often used programs, so you don't need to go find them in your applications folder just to launch them. You get to the doc by using vo-d then vo-right/left to move through the doc. If you want to remove things from the doc, just use up/down arrows (w/o vo keys) once the item is highlighted on the doc. This will give you options such as remove from dock, add to login and so forth. Just press enter (or vo-space) on the option you want, and that'll take care of it. Of course, vo-shift-m on the doc item will give you the menus as well, so use whatever is easiest. hth. From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jun 10 20:25:14 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:25:14 -0500 Subject: finder In-Reply-To: References: <1F9E8551-D19A-4D8F-8BDB-002744785750@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Shannon Dyer wrote: > Finder confuses me. People tell me it's kind of like windows > explorer, but I seriously don't see the similarities. I see that > finder always runs, but I really can't figure out what's for. Umm, finder is the only way (besides terminal) to launch programs on your mac. If you're running programs, then you're using finder. One thing that may help is to explain that finder has 3 (or on later versions of osx) 4 different presentation modes which you can change to by using command-1, command-2, command-3, and command-4. I personally much prefer column mode, but some folks really like icon mode, and others swear by list mode, so it's all what you're used to, and what works best for you. It won't hurt to experiment, so just try them all and see what works best for you. You may be surprised. From w9fyi at mac-access.net Sat Jun 11 02:29:09 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:29:09 -0700 Subject: Script and software solution source sites for moving files [was Re: Moving files to a new folder] In-Reply-To: <2374F787-C0F9-4F11-B540-0B7A59F177FA@mac.com> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A7107B@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A71104@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> <2374F787-C0F9-4F11-B540-0B7A59F177FA@mac.com> Message-ID: <940DB32B-CB87-4C3E-AE84-4B88DE55C2BE@mac-access.net> Ester, If I were to use some of the italian scripts, how do I install them so that I can take advantage of them? Thanks, On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sunil, > > Sunil wrote: > >>>> I have over a hundred files in a folder which I want to move to a new folder. Once highlighted, how can I move or send them to that new folder? I want to avoid the copy and paste option because I don't want to have to go back and delete all the files from the original folder once I've moved them to where I want them to be. > > Colin is correct that you have a few options for moving your folders with a "cut and paste" type of option: either to use scripts which you can optionally bind to a keyboard shortcut of your choosing or put into an Automator workflow, or to use a commercial product called "MoveAddict". I'll list a few of the script sources: > > 1) Move files script at the Italian Mac group's site for scripts (with English instructions and descriptions): > http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english > > 2) Move file script (with optional Automator Workflow setup) at the I can work this thing site: > http://icanworkthisthing.com/scripts/index.shtml > > 3) Move file script from Travis' softcon scripts pages: > http://softcon.com/mac/scripts/ > > 4) Kapeli's moveAddict software application for Snow Leopard: > http://kapeli.com/ > > Up till the end of last year I used scripts to move files and folders from the GUI, or used the command line in Terminal. (The actual version I used was slightly different from the ones listed, and predates the sources listed here; I ran it in an Automator workflow that was saved as a Finder action, so I could access it from the context menu of Finder after selecting files in order to choose the "move to" destination.) I've looked over, but not tried to implement, the script sources I've listed here. They seem pretty straight forward, and any of them should work for you. The Italian Mac group gives a lot of information and instructions with their scripts, and supplies separate links for both downloading their scripts and for instructions for each of their scripts, so it's a good source to use if you want detailed explanations. > > I'm now using moveAddict, because, apart from the convenience of using "cut" and "paste" shortcuts like Command-x and Command-v on selected Finder items, it provides an additional feature: it will give me the option of merging files in a folder rather than simply replacing if I move a folder onto another with some duplicated file name entries. > > The only possible issue is that I remember Lyn had some problems getting moveAddict working, and I don't recall whether this got resolved. The application is sold in the App Store, but if you buy moveAddict from there, you should still go to the kapeli web site to download the program, since their download includes a folder named "Accessibility" along with a "moveAddict Preferences.app" file that provides separate access to the moveAddict preferences pane for VoiceOver users. I believe that you don't have to set up any of the shortcuts -- by default Command-x will "cut" and Command-v will "paste' your files and folders. However, if you do redefine any of these keys you might have to restart to have the definitions take effect. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Jun 11 03:18:39 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:18:39 -1000 Subject: Script and software solution source sites for moving files [was Re: Moving files to a new folder] In-Reply-To: <940DB32B-CB87-4C3E-AE84-4B88DE55C2BE@mac-access.net> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A7107B@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A71104@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> <2374F787-C0F9-4F11-B540-0B7A59F177FA@mac.com> <940DB32B-CB87-4C3E-AE84-4B88DE55C2BE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <898745A6-E877-4FE6-83E6-966C123D6D9E@mac.com> Hi Justin, On Jun 10, 2011, at 15:29, Justin Mann wrote: > Ester, > If I were to use some of the italian scripts, how do I install them so that I can take advantage of them? > Thanks, Did you try going to the linked site and reading the instructions? For each of the scripts at that site, there are links to a download script file and a corresponding link to detailed instructions for installing and setting up that script file. Rossy, who is a member of the Italian Mac group, is also on this list, and she has answered some specific questions about using some of the scripts. If you're asking about a specific script other than the one two move files, you might want to detail your questions about that topic. Cheers, Esther From chaas0217 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 07:13:31 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 00:13:31 -0600 Subject: finder Message-ID: <55F4DF80-6686-4DCA-97D6-6527A2741EF9@gmail.com> Hi Shannon: Another helpful thing might be to go to Apple.com, and do a search in support for Switching101, or Mac101. There is some good explanations and comparisons of Mac vs PC terms. Carolyn From alpot77 at googlemail.com Sat Jun 11 08:26:42 2011 From: alpot77 at googlemail.com (Ali) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:26:42 +0100 Subject: DAISY TOOLS Message-ID: Hi all, Does anyone know if DAISY creating and reading tools exist for MAC? If they do, can you please direct me over to the resource so that I can have a look please? ------------------- Thank you. Ali From mike at busboom.at Sat Jun 11 14:04:59 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:04:59 +0200 Subject: Long Headers in Mail and VO Message-ID: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> Hello everyone, I wanted to respond privately to someone on this list and in order to do so, I used Shift-Command-H to get to the Long header of a note that this person posted to this list. When I interacted with the Long Header, I was unable to move character-by-character to ascertain the individual's e-mail address. I also tried to use the context menu (Shift-VO-M) while on the e-mail address in question, but this got me nowhere. While it is possible to invoke VO-W to hear the address spelled out, I can't seem to find a way to copy and paste this person't address into a new e-mail. On an aside, I was trying to get Dane's address from a response of his to a question of mine here on the list. :) Best regards to all, Mike From support at mac-access.net Sat Jun 11 15:11:39 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:11:39 +0100 Subject: Triple New Member Welcome; [Please Do Not Reply On List] Message-ID: Hello everybody It's a real shame when this kind of thing happens; but we have no real identities for these members. This kind of thing makes our lives a bit more complicated as we have to watch more carefully than usual to ensure that no spammer has found their way on to the list. 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We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From princessterri76 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 15:12:57 2011 From: princessterri76 at gmail.com (Terri S) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:12:57 -0400 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac Message-ID: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> Hello everyone, I just joined this list, because I am hoping to get an Imac. I don't know much about it yet though. I would love a macbook, but I just can't afford one of those yet. If I am able to get this Imac, this will be my first Mac computer. I am very excited about this, but nervous at the same time. I know next to nothing about macs, and I don't even really know where to begin doing research. What are some things a newby should know, when first starting out? This might be a loaded question, but how does a mac differ from a PC? Well I think these are all of the questions I have for now. Anything you can tell me will be very much appreciated. Thank you, Terri From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Jun 11 15:32:38 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:32:38 -0500 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> Message-ID: <4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net> If you want a laptop, you might consider the regular macbook, it is cheaper than an imac, actually I think the imac and macbook pro are priced similarly, not sure though. On Jun 11, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Terri S wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I just joined this list, because I am hoping to get an Imac. I don't know much about it yet though. I would love a macbook, but I just can't afford one of those yet. > > If I am able to get this Imac, this will be my first Mac computer. I am very excited about this, but nervous at the same time. > > I know next to nothing about macs, and I don't even really know where to begin doing research. > What are some things a newby should know, when first starting out? > This might be a loaded question, but how does a mac differ from a PC? > > Well I think these are all of the questions I have for now. Anything you can tell me will be very much appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Terri > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From princessterri76 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 16:01:02 2011 From: princessterri76 at gmail.com (Terri S) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:01:02 -0400 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net> Message-ID: <923EC2BE973D48A9AC0C531777898160@ACERLAPTOP> Hi there, Well this Imac I am getting is a little older, but is a good deal. It came out in 2005, but it has wifi, and an 80 gig hard drive. I am not sure what operating software it has on it though, because the person I am getting from, didn't understand my question. LOL If the Imac does have voiceover, how do I check to see? Thank you, Terri From ian456 at me.com Sat Jun 11 16:11:54 2011 From: ian456 at me.com (Ian Robinson) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:11:54 +0100 Subject: Long Headers in Mail and VO In-Reply-To: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> References: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> Message-ID: <3670E0FF-CA9A-490E-973A-8387B9B3A3AE@me.com> Hi Mike, Someone else may have a better solution, but for now.... when you navigate the headers and hear the email address, press VO shift C, which will copy the last spoken text to the clipboard. HTH. Ian On 11 Jun 2011, at 14:04, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I wanted to respond privately to someone on this list and in order to do so, I used Shift-Command-H to get to the Long header of a note that this person posted to this list. When I interacted with the Long Header, I was unable to move character-by-character to ascertain the individual's e-mail address. I also tried to use the context menu (Shift-VO-M) while on the e-mail address in question, but this got me nowhere. While it is possible to invoke VO-W to hear the address spelled out, I can't seem to find a way to copy and paste this person't address into a new e-mail. > > On an aside, I was trying to get Dane's address from a response of his to a question of mine here on the list. :) > > Best regards to all, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Sat Jun 11 16:42:22 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:42:22 +0200 Subject: Long Headers in Mail and VO In-Reply-To: <3670E0FF-CA9A-490E-973A-8387B9B3A3AE@me.com> References: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> <3670E0FF-CA9A-490E-973A-8387B9B3A3AE@me.com> Message-ID: <0FF0D513-6C58-45F1-8802-DF98FB31DF8E@busboom.at> Thanks a million, Ian, for that wonderful suggestion--it worked beautifully! I love it when problems are resolved this quickly. I never really thought about using this command, but I'm glad that the Apple Access Group thought of it. :) Again, it really helped; thanks! Mike On 11,Jun,2011, at 5:11 PM, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Someone else may have a better solution, but for now.... > when you navigate the headers and hear the email address, press VO shift C, which will copy the last spoken text to the clipboard. > > HTH. > > Ian > > > On 11 Jun 2011, at 14:04, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I wanted to respond privately to someone on this list and in order to do so, I used Shift-Command-H to get to the Long header of a note that this person posted to this list. When I interacted with the Long Header, I was unable to move character-by-character to ascertain the individual's e-mail address. I also tried to use the context menu (Shift-VO-M) while on the e-mail address in question, but this got me nowhere. While it is possible to invoke VO-W to hear the address spelled out, I can't seem to find a way to copy and paste this person't address into a new e-mail. >> >> On an aside, I was trying to get Dane's address from a response of his to a question of mine here on the list. :) >> >> Best regards to all, >> >> Mike >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sat Jun 11 16:59:18 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:59:18 +0200 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: <923EC2BE973D48A9AC0C531777898160@ACERLAPTOP> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net> <923EC2BE973D48A9AC0C531777898160@ACERLAPTOP> Message-ID: Hello Terri, The iMac you might be getting is probably a G4, and will not, therefore, be able to take Snow Leopard or the soon-to-be-released Lion. However, it will take Leopard and you will have VoiceOver, but with fewer features than in the later versions of the OS. Cheers, Anne On Jun 11, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Terri S wrote: > Hi there, > > Well this Imac I am getting is a little older, but is a good deal. It came out in 2005, but it has wifi, and an 80 gig hard drive. I am not sure what operating software it has on it though, because the person I am getting from, didn't understand my question. LOL > > If the Imac does have voiceover, how do I check to see? > > Thank you, > > Terri > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From orin8722 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 17:03:12 2011 From: orin8722 at gmail.com (Orin) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:03:12 -0400 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net> <923EC2BE973D48A9AC0C531777898160@ACERLAPTOP> Message-ID: <23F10F96-EBAC-4901-BE3E-E1CDED48D1FF@gmail.com> It depends on what time it came out in 2005. It might end up with Tiger on it. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Terri, > > The iMac you might be getting is probably a G4, and will not, therefore, be able to take Snow Leopard or the soon-to-be-released Lion. However, it will take Leopard and you will have VoiceOver, but with fewer features than in the later versions of the OS. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On Jun 11, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Terri S wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> Well this Imac I am getting is a little older, but is a good deal. It came out in 2005, but it has wifi, and an 80 gig hard drive. I am not sure what operating software it has on it though, because the person I am getting from, didn't understand my question. LOL >> >> If the Imac does have voiceover, how do I check to see? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Terri >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Jun 11 17:13:13 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:13:13 -0500 Subject: Long Headers in Mail and VO In-Reply-To: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> References: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> Message-ID: Actually, you shouldn't need to use the long headers, In order to reply to the sender, instead of the list, all you need to do is to interact with the header, find the user's name, and press vo-space on the menu button there. It will then pop up with various options, such as copy address, reply to sender, add to address book, and more. Simply select reply to sender, and you're all set. That's all there is to it. No need to turn on long headers at all. On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I wanted to respond privately to someone on this list and in order > to do so, I used Shift-Command-H to get to the Long header of a > note that this person posted to this list. When I interacted with > the Long Header, I was unable to move character-by-character to > ascertain the individual's e-mail address. I also tried to use the > context menu (Shift-VO-M) while on the e-mail address in question, > but this got me nowhere. While it is possible to invoke VO-W to > hear the address spelled out, I can't seem to find a way to copy > and paste this person't address into a new e-mail. > > On an aside, I was trying to get Dane's address from a response of > his to a question of mine here on the list. :) From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Jun 11 17:18:34 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:18:34 -0500 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> Message-ID: <71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> Well, if you're looking for a cost effective mac, skip the imac, and get a minimac. It's around 600 bucks for the cheap version, and you can use your existing usb keyboard, mouse and vga monitor on them (assuming they still come with the vga adapter) That will give you a computer that's cheaper, but just as powerful as the imac, only it's smaller, takes up less space, and can use your existing parts. Of course, if you've got the funds, then an Imac isn't a bad choice either, since you need nothing additional (other than keyboard and mouse) to make it work. The good thing, is that it's all up to you how you want to go. From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Jun 11 17:20:55 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:20:55 -0500 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: <23F10F96-EBAC-4901-BE3E-E1CDED48D1FF@gmail.com> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net> <923EC2BE973D48A9AC0C531777898160@ACERLAPTOP> <23F10F96-EBAC-4901-BE3E-E1CDED48D1FF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9068B064-7E1B-4EE3-815E-5EC29A03C06F@softcon.com> On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Orin wrote: > It depends on what time it came out in 2005. It might end up with > Tiger on it. But even the g4 can be upgraded to run leopard. Even if it comes with tiger, that can be upgraded to leopard with very little trouble, so no worries there. From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sat Jun 11 17:24:30 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:24:30 -0400 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: <71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> Message-ID: <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> I just bought an imac and it came with a blue tooth keyboard and mouse. I started out to buy a mac mini, but I did not have a compatible monitor and I didn't know if I'd be able to use the mouse and keyboard I have from my pc. The monitor that Apple offers cost more than the darned imac did, so in the long run the imac was way cheaper. On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Well, if you're looking for a cost effective mac, skip the imac, and get a minimac. It's around 600 bucks for the cheap version, and you can use your existing usb keyboard, mouse and vga monitor on them (assuming they still come with the vga adapter) That will give you a computer that's cheaper, but just as powerful as the imac, only it's smaller, takes up less space, and can use your existing parts. > Of course, if you've got the funds, then an Imac isn't a bad choice either, since you need nothing additional (other than keyboard and mouse) to make it work. > The good thing, is that it's all up to you how you want to go. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From solsticesinger at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 17:31:34 2011 From: solsticesinger at gmail.com (Shannon Dyer) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:31:34 -0400 Subject: finder In-Reply-To: <55F4DF80-6686-4DCA-97D6-6527A2741EF9@gmail.com> References: <55F4DF80-6686-4DCA-97D6-6527A2741EF9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3035C22E-B418-41E9-B218-1DF45EB4A371@gmail.com> Isn't there some kind of listing of voice over commands on that site, too? Someone told me I could find documentation there, but haven't located it thus far. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:13 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Shannon: > Another helpful thing might be to go to Apple.com, and do a search in support for Switching101, or Mac101. There is some good explanations and comparisons of Mac vs PC terms. > > Carolyn > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chaas0217 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 17:57:37 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:57:37 -0600 Subject: finder In-Reply-To: <3035C22E-B418-41E9-B218-1DF45EB4A371@gmail.com> References: <55F4DF80-6686-4DCA-97D6-6527A2741EF9@gmail.com> <3035C22E-B418-41E9-B218-1DF45EB4A371@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5B37D04C-E023-4C5D-96A4-75B0FF2CCEAE@gmail.com> Hi Shannon: I struggled the same way at the start. For whatever reason, the Apple site is slow to offer up info, een though it's there. Best bet, go to Apple.com/support. Type in accessibility, and you should get VO info as a heading. Also you can go in under must Apple.com and type in Mac. Then look for the support heading You should be able to find either "Mac101," or "switching101." I can look up these links and send you a couple a little later. I found them really helpful. I have a memorial service to go to today for my 20-year-old niece who had a fatal car wreck the Sunday before Memorial Day. And then we're supposed to get some of those severe storms. Not the happiest day of the week.:) take care, I'll be around later if you want to mac-chat.:) Carolyn On Jun 11, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Shannon Dyer wrote: > Isn't there some kind of listing of voice over commands on that site, too? Someone told me I could find documentation there, but haven't located it thus far. > > Shannon > Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: > http://mojoradio.us/listen > or > www.mintfm.net > > On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:13 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Shannon: >> Another helpful thing might be to go to Apple.com, and do a search in support for Switching101, or Mac101. There is some good explanations and comparisons of Mac vs PC terms. >> >> Carolyn >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Sat Jun 11 18:49:40 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:49:40 +0200 Subject: Long Headers in Mail and VO In-Reply-To: References: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> Message-ID: Hello Travis, In some ways, your explanation is confusing to me. If I don't navigate to the Long Header, all I have in the list of messages is the person's name, not an e-mail address. Using your name from the Mac-Access list of messages, nothing happened when I hit the VO Space combination on your name. My Mac just emitted a low-frequency bong. I also tried to do the shift-VO-M on your name, and nothing happened. If I don't interact with the Long Header, I can't find the recipient's e-mail address anywhere within the text, and I can't get to the header unless I invoke the Shift-Command-H command. I am thinking that I need to enable an option somewhere within Mail if your suggestion is going to work for me. Take care and thanks for your input, Mike On 11,Jun,2011, at 6:13 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Actually, you shouldn't need to use the long headers, In order to reply to the sender, instead of the list, all you need to do is to interact with the header, find the user's name, and press vo-space on the menu button there. It will then pop up with various options, such as copy address, reply to sender, add to address book, and more. Simply select reply to sender, and you're all set. > That's all there is to it. > No need to turn on long headers at all. > > > On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I wanted to respond privately to someone on this list and in order to do so, I used Shift-Command-H to get to the Long header of a note that this person posted to this list. When I interacted with the Long Header, I was unable to move character-by-character to ascertain the individual's e-mail address. I also tried to use the context menu (Shift-VO-M) while on the e-mail address in question, but this got me nowhere. While it is possible to invoke VO-W to hear the address spelled out, I can't seem to find a way to copy and paste this person't address into a new e-mail. >> >> On an aside, I was trying to get Dane's address from a response of his to a question of mine here on the list. :) > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Jun 11 19:30:48 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:30:48 -0500 Subject: new version of magellan road mate is accessible In-Reply-To: <4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net> Message-ID: Hi everyone, I am happy to report that the new version of magellan roadmate for the iphone is accessible with voiceover. The previous version was completely inaccessible, nothing could be read at all. The new version works quite well, so this gives us another option for GPS navigation on the iphone. From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Jun 11 19:34:10 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:34:10 -0500 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: <923EC2BE973D48A9AC0C531777898160@ACERLAPTOP> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net> <923EC2BE973D48A9AC0C531777898160@ACERLAPTOP> Message-ID: <0F8C85BC-4E55-4753-87B0-77B670DD757C@charter.net> If this imac came out in 2005, it's probably not Intel based, therefore it will not run 10.6 or the new 10.7 operating system. I would advise against getting this it's outdated. On Jun 11, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Terri S wrote: > Hi there, > > Well this Imac I am getting is a little older, but is a good deal. It came out in 2005, but it has wifi, and an 80 gig hard drive. I am not sure what operating software it has on it though, because the person I am getting from, didn't understand my question. LOL > > If the Imac does have voiceover, how do I check to see? > > Thank you, > > Terri > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ian456 at me.com Sat Jun 11 19:44:01 2011 From: ian456 at me.com (Ian Robinson) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:44:01 +0100 Subject: finder In-Reply-To: <3035C22E-B418-41E9-B218-1DF45EB4A371@gmail.com> References: <55F4DF80-6686-4DCA-97D6-6527A2741EF9@gmail.com> <3035C22E-B418-41E9-B218-1DF45EB4A371@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1F758F50-B703-499E-B9E1-98A150029372@me.com> Hi Shannon, For the VoiceOver Getting Started manual, go to: http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ After the 11 chapters, there's an appendix of VoiceOver commands. Also, Vision australia produced some tutorials for using VoiceOver which I found really helpful when I first started using the Mac. They can be found at: http://www.visionaustralia.org/info.aspx?page=2296 HTH. Ian On 11 Jun 2011, at 17:31, Shannon Dyer wrote: > Isn't there some kind of listing of voice over commands on that site, too? Someone told me I could find documentation there, but haven't located it thus far. > > Shannon > Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: > http://mojoradio.us/listen > or > www.mintfm.net > > On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:13 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Shannon: >> Another helpful thing might be to go to Apple.com, and do a search in support for Switching101, or Mac101. There is some good explanations and comparisons of Mac vs PC terms. >> >> Carolyn >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From solsticesinger at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 20:42:11 2011 From: solsticesinger at gmail.com (Shannon Dyer) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:42:11 -0400 Subject: finder In-Reply-To: <5B37D04C-E023-4C5D-96A4-75B0FF2CCEAE@gmail.com> References: <55F4DF80-6686-4DCA-97D6-6527A2741EF9@gmail.com> <3035C22E-B418-41E9-B218-1DF45EB4A371@gmail.com> <5B37D04C-E023-4C5D-96A4-75B0FF2CCEAE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4549BA86-39A5-4613-AB41-206DBABD1D4E@gmail.com> Thank you so much. I'll see what I can find out on the apple site, but, if I fail, I'll most definitely ask for links. I'm really, really sorry about your niece. That's so sad. You and your family are in my thoughts. Take care of yourself. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Shannon: > I struggled the same way at the start. For whatever reason, the Apple site is slow to offer up info, een though it's there. > Best bet, go to Apple.com/support. Type in accessibility, and you should get VO info as a heading. Also you can go in under must Apple.com and type in Mac. Then look for the support heading You should be able to find either "Mac101," or "switching101." > > I can look up these links and send you a couple a little later. I found them really helpful. I have a memorial service to go to today for my 20-year-old niece who had a fatal car wreck the Sunday before Memorial Day. > And then we're supposed to get some of those severe storms. Not the happiest day of the week.:) > > take care, I'll be around later if you want to mac-chat.:) > > Carolyn > On Jun 11, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Shannon Dyer wrote: > >> Isn't there some kind of listing of voice over commands on that site, too? Someone told me I could find documentation there, but haven't located it thus far. >> >> Shannon >> Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: >> http://mojoradio.us/listen >> or >> www.mintfm.net >> >> On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:13 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Shannon: >>> Another helpful thing might be to go to Apple.com, and do a search in support for Switching101, or Mac101. There is some good explanations and comparisons of Mac vs PC terms. >>> >>> Carolyn >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 21:10:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:10:06 -0700 Subject: Long Headers in Mail and VO In-Reply-To: <0FF0D513-6C58-45F1-8802-DF98FB31DF8E@busboom.at> References: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> <3670E0FF-CA9A-490E-973A-8387B9B3A3AE@me.com> <0FF0D513-6C58-45F1-8802-DF98FB31DF8E@busboom.at> Message-ID: <246C43C1-5E31-4641-928D-13758056C33F@gmail.com> Actually try this. 1. interact with the scroll area in the message. 2. vo left to the headers. 3. vo down to the from. 4. option shift right to highlight the email address. 5. vo shift m to bring up a menu and choose your action. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Thanks a million, Ian, for that wonderful suggestion--it worked beautifully! > > I love it when problems are resolved this quickly. I never really thought about using this command, but I'm glad that the Apple Access Group thought of it. :) > > Again, it really helped; thanks! > > Mike > > On 11,Jun,2011, at 5:11 PM, Ian Robinson wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> Someone else may have a better solution, but for now.... >> when you navigate the headers and hear the email address, press VO shift C, which will copy the last spoken text to the clipboard. >> >> HTH. >> >> Ian >> >> >> On 11 Jun 2011, at 14:04, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I wanted to respond privately to someone on this list and in order to do so, I used Shift-Command-H to get to the Long header of a note that this person posted to this list. When I interacted with the Long Header, I was unable to move character-by-character to ascertain the individual's e-mail address. I also tried to use the context menu (Shift-VO-M) while on the e-mail address in question, but this got me nowhere. While it is possible to invoke VO-W to hear the address spelled out, I can't seem to find a way to copy and paste this person't address into a new e-mail. >>> >>> On an aside, I was trying to get Dane's address from a response of his to a question of mine here on the list. :) >>> >>> Best regards to all, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Sat Jun 11 21:35:54 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:35:54 +0100 Subject: Delayed Support Requests Message-ID: <716E6DB2-F753-4E4A-9F6B-DE0F24623362@mac-access.net> Hello everybody For the benefit of those awaiting as yet unanswered support requests from us, apologies. We are once again in a situation where we're dicing with hospital-related issue, having spent the latter part of Thursday evening, all of Friday and the first half of Saturday there. In fact we're only home now because of a lack of senior staff at weekends. But we may need to return. So I ask you to please b patient; we'll get your issues resolved I promise, just as quickly as possible. Don't stop writing if you have issues. Lynne From cjsims at me.com Sat Jun 11 22:41:50 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 07:41:50 +1000 Subject: Long Headers in Mail and VO In-Reply-To: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> References: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> Message-ID: Hi. The command that your looking for in this case is VO CMD space. once you've located the beginning of the email address. This command will perform a mouse click and will invoke a menu that allows you to reply to sender. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 11/06/2011, at 11:04 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I wanted to respond privately to someone on this list and in order to do so, I used Shift-Command-H to get to the Long header of a note that this person posted to this list. When I interacted with the Long Header, I was unable to move character-by-character to ascertain the individual's e-mail address. I also tried to use the context menu (Shift-VO-M) while on the e-mail address in question, but this got me nowhere. While it is possible to invoke VO-W to hear the address spelled out, I can't seem to find a way to copy and paste this person't address into a new e-mail. > > On an aside, I was trying to get Dane's address from a response of his to a question of mine here on the list. :) > > Best regards to all, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Sat Jun 11 22:50:21 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 07:50:21 +1000 Subject: Long Headers in Mail and VO In-Reply-To: References: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> Message-ID: <01FB21B5-8EA6-4F80-A7F6-7A49C388E051@me.com> You possibly have no headers displayed in mail. In one version of OSX, there was an issue with VO where messages weren't being red out automaticly when you pressed enter on them. You need to go in to mail preferences, viewing, and it is the first option you'll see. Hope this helps. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 12/06/2011, at 3:49 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello Travis, > > In some ways, your explanation is confusing to me. If I don't navigate to the Long Header, all I have in the list of messages is the person's name, not an e-mail address. Using your name from the Mac-Access list of messages, nothing happened when I hit the VO Space combination on your name. My Mac just emitted a low-frequency bong. > > I also tried to do the shift-VO-M on your name, and nothing happened. If I don't interact with the Long Header, I can't find the recipient's e-mail address anywhere within the text, and I can't get to the header unless I invoke the Shift-Command-H command. > > I am thinking that I need to enable an option somewhere within Mail if your suggestion is going to work for me. > > Take care and thanks for your input, > > Mike > > > > On 11,Jun,2011, at 6:13 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> Actually, you shouldn't need to use the long headers, In order to reply to the sender, instead of the list, all you need to do is to interact with the header, find the user's name, and press vo-space on the menu button there. It will then pop up with various options, such as copy address, reply to sender, add to address book, and more. Simply select reply to sender, and you're all set. >> That's all there is to it. >> No need to turn on long headers at all. >> >> >> On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I wanted to respond privately to someone on this list and in order to do so, I used Shift-Command-H to get to the Long header of a note that this person posted to this list. When I interacted with the Long Header, I was unable to move character-by-character to ascertain the individual's e-mail address. I also tried to use the context menu (Shift-VO-M) while on the e-mail address in question, but this got me nowhere. While it is possible to invoke VO-W to hear the address spelled out, I can't seem to find a way to copy and paste this person't address into a new e-mail. >>> >>> On an aside, I was trying to get Dane's address from a response of his to a question of mine here on the list. :) >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Sat Jun 11 23:15:59 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:15:59 -0400 Subject: VueScan working great for OCR In-Reply-To: <4313F837-2815-4E29-B1EA-59ADDB9BCB75@anarchie.org.uk> References: <4313F837-2815-4E29-B1EA-59ADDB9BCB75@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Anne, Thank you for this information. Do I remember correctly that you previously used a combination of VueScan and Abby Fine Reader? Do you now feel that VueScan performs well enough on it's own to perform both the scanning and OCR functions without needing to pass the scans along to Abby for the OCR work? TIA, Bryan On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > I've been in contact with Ed Hamrick, the developer of VueScan. The latest version of VueScan now works great. I just had to press Cmd-N to produce a beautiful RTF file of an article from New SCientist magazine. From princessterri76 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 23:53:20 2011 From: princessterri76 at gmail.com (Terri S) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:53:20 -0400 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP><71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: Hello there, Thank you for all the advice so far. I really appreciate it. I decided to go ahead and purchase the computer. My friend that took me to get it, said that if I couldn't use it that he would buy it. So I really couldn't see passing up a good deal. Anyway, we got it home and it seems to run real well. My friend says that it shows a leopard skin as the background. Does anyone know if this means anything? Also, can I try to turn on voiceover? How would I go about doing this? You will need to tell me where the keys are, because I won't know. Thank you, Terri From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 12 00:21:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 00:21:57 +0100 Subject: iClout and iTunes Match; [Was: Report: Convenience means iTunes users will pay for iTunes Match] In-Reply-To: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Sarah & all On 10 Jun 2011, at 01:16, Sarah Alawami wrote: ? I still use cds believe it or not and will continue to do so until the format dies completely. I keep all of my back ups and am a posed to this in every single way. But in the end it's to each his or her own. As a species, we humans are inherently slow to adapt and to embrace change. We are also quick to judge; every single one of us is guilty of those flaws; so please don't anybody deny it. ;-) Be that as it may, I'm about to display my guilt. This really worries me. Many people have limited, (capped) broadband. The increasing amount of "Cloud" usage is bound to put strains and stresses on users and providers alike. iTunes Match or whatever it's going to be called is going to be a major contributor to the additional charges which, inevitably, users will incur from their providers. It wouldn't surprises me even if the charges are not justified, were providers to take advantage of this and bump of the prices. So I think that whether or not we utilise Cloud technology, we are all going to see spiralling Internet costs in the coming months. Just my view for whatever it is worth. Lynne From moriond at mac.com Sun Jun 12 00:32:08 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:32:08 -1000 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <76B3139D-0BCF-477C-B7EB-312BE45BE2A0@mac.com> Hi Terri, I'm going to let someone who's familiar with the full keyboard layout of the iMac answer you about the layout, since I'm used to the laptop setup. However, I'll point you to a URL with documentation that is appropriate for Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard at the Guide Dogs of Western Australia site: http://www.guidedogswa.org/books/vogs/vogs.php This is the VoiceOver Getting Started page with copies of the Apple Documentation in various formats for the two earliest versions of VoiceOver under Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5) and Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4). To start VoiceOver up, you need to press the Command key (just to the right or left of the Space bar) together with the F5 key from the row of keys along the top of your keyboard. I think this part is standard for all the Mac keyboards: the first key on the top row is the "Escape" key, followed by the F1, F2, F3, etc. keys. For a full-size keyboard with desktop Macs, the bottom row of keys should be Control, Option, and Command, followed by the space bar, and I think that on the full size keyboard you have the same keys to the right of the space bar: Command, Option, and Control. The most noticeable difference from the PC keyboard is that the order of the bottom row keys is changed, so that the Control and Option keys are next to each other, whereas on a Windows keyboard this might be Control, Windows Key, and Alt key. The two keys, Control and Option, are often used pressed together along with other keys, so they are referred to as the VoiceOver or VO keys. So, for example, if you wanted to learn the layout of your keyboard by turning on keyboard practice mode, I'd describe the command as "VO-K", where this means simultaneously pressing the Control and Option keys together with the "K" key. In this mode, VoiceOver will announce any key that you press, without performing the corresponding action. This is a good way to learn/remember the VoiceOver functions, such as VO+F8 to bring up the VoiceOver Utility to configure your options, such as speaking rate, voices, etc. and VO+H to bring up the VoiceOver help menu. You'll get a short walk-through introduction as soon as you turn VoiceOver with Command+F5. The same key sequence toggles VoiceOver off. Since you're running Leopard, I'd recommend taking a look at Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver pages: http://web.me.com/kilburns/voiceover/ The sidebar lets you choose "Leopard Apps", so you not only get an overview of the operating system, but some of the descriptions will be specific to Leopard's layout. Also, listen to some of Mike Arrigo's podcasts on Blind Cool Tech. The earlier ones are done on Leopard. I;ll paste in a list with the descriptors: Mac Accessibility Demo 5/24/2008 Mike overviews the accessibility features in the Mac and demonstrates web browsing, email, and word processing. 28.6 MB Mac Accessibility Demo Part 2 6/12/2008 Mike Arrigo continues the tour of the accessibility of the Mac using the built-in screen reader, Voice Over. Mike demonstrates streaming audio and using the Voice Over web find feature. 23.9 MB Mac Demo Part 3 8/12/2008 Mike Arrigo answers questions from the first two episodes in this series about the Mac and Voice Over, its built in screen reader. He explains how to boot from the system DVD, shows a slick technique for moving through mail messages more quickly, and tours the Voice Over Control Panel to show the customizations you may make. He also demonstrates using the web browser on the internet and demonstrates how it works with Ebay. 22.0 MB Mac Demo 4 12/16/2008 Mike Arrigo continues this series by answering questions, showing the improved accessibility in iTunes 8, playing a DVD, and using the web with dynamic web pages. 22.8 MB Mac Demo 5 1/18/2009 Mike Arrigo continues this series about built-in accessibility on the Mac by demonstrating running Windows on the Mac. He discusses the reasons why you would want to run Windows on a Mac, then talks about how it works, runs both the Mac operating system and Windows at the same time, and shows running Window-eyes, System Access, and Kurzweil 1000. 17.8 MB Mac Demo 6 2/9/2009 Mike Arrigo describes how to walk up to a Mac in the store and get it talking, so you can try it there. He also demonstrates using Voice Over on the numeric keypad and shows how to copy files. He copies a book to an SD card for use on the Victor Reader Stream. 18.1 MB Mac Demo 7 3/17/2009 Mike Arrigo looks at the software update feature on the mac, goes through most of the system preferences, and mentions things that blind users may want to change. He shows how to enable the option so you can see file extensions, shows how to change what programs are used to open different types of files, and demonstrates how to install programs on the mac. 24.5 MB Mac Demo 8 6/16/2009 Mike Arrigo offers another perspective than that presented in the June issue of The Monitor about the useability of the Macintosh with its built-in screen reading software, VoiceOver. 29.3 M Mac Demo 9 7/24/2009 Mike Arrigo shows how Voice Over on the Mac interacts with three commercially available programs that were not written by Apple to emphasize the universal access to a wide variety of applications. 18.4 MB Install Snow Leopard 9/1/2009 Mike Arrigo independently installs the Snow Leopard operating system using Voice Over, the Mac's built-in screen reader and discusses some of its enhancements. 21.4 MB New Features In VoiceOver 9/6/2009 Mike Arrigo discusses the new features in VoiceOver with the release of Snow Leopard. 21.7 MB Mac Podcast 12 11/30/2009 Mike Arrigo shares some news tidbits, more 3rd party applications for backup and maintenance, a media player, a bible program, and how to tether a Symbian phone to use the cell data plan for your Mac internet connection. 22.9 MB Mac Demo 13 6/8/2010 Mike Arrigo describes the new Mac Book and demonstrates some of the gestures using the track pad. He also demonstrates iWorks' and Open Office's word processor and spreadsheet applications. 18.9 MB HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:53, Terri S wrote: > Hello there, > > Thank you for all the advice so far. I really appreciate it. I decided to go ahead and purchase the computer. My friend that took me to get it, said that if I couldn't use it that he would buy it. So I really couldn't see passing up a good deal. > > Anyway, we got it home and it seems to run real well. > My friend says that it shows a leopard skin as the background. Does anyone know if this means anything? > > Also, can I try to turn on voiceover? > How would I go about doing this? > You will need to tell me where the keys are, because I won't know. > > Thank you, > > Terri From moriond at mac.com Sun Jun 12 00:39:50 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:39:50 -1000 Subject: Resources for getting started with Leopard [was Re: Possibly getting an Imac] In-Reply-To: <76B3139D-0BCF-477C-B7EB-312BE45BE2A0@mac.com> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> <76B3139D-0BCF-477C-B7EB-312BE45BE2A0@mac.com> Message-ID: <72F2FDBF-5A0B-497F-9CAB-FDA3340C4F84@mac.com> Hi Terri, Oops, I meant to change the subject line, and I also realize that I didn't tell you how to exit VoiceOver's keyboard practice mode: you start it with VO-K (Command+Option+K), and you exit it by pressing the "Escape" key in the top left corner of your keyboard. In between, VoiceOver will simply identify the keys that you press and, in the case of specific utility key functions such VO+F8, etc. also tell you the function without actually executing the combination. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 11, 2011, at 13:32, Esther wrote: > Hi Terri, > > I'm going to let someone who's familiar with the full keyboard layout of the iMac answer you about the layout, since I'm used to the laptop setup. However, I'll point you to a URL with documentation that is appropriate for Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard at the Guide Dogs of Western Australia site: > http://www.guidedogswa.org/books/vogs/vogs.php > This is the VoiceOver Getting Started page with copies of the Apple Documentation in various formats for the two earliest versions of VoiceOver under Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5) and Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4). > > To start VoiceOver up, you need to press the Command key (just to the right or left of the Space bar) together with the F5 key from the row of keys along the top of your keyboard. I think this part is standard for all the Mac keyboards: the first key on the top row is the "Escape" key, followed by the F1, F2, F3, etc. keys. For a full-size keyboard with desktop Macs, the bottom row of keys should be Control, Option, and Command, followed by the space bar, and I think that on the full size keyboard you have the same keys to the right of the space bar: Command, Option, and Control. > > The most noticeable difference from the PC keyboard is that the order of the bottom row keys is changed, so that the Control and Option keys are next to each other, whereas on a Windows keyboard this might be Control, Windows Key, and Alt key. The two keys, Control and Option, are often used pressed together along with other keys, so they are referred to as the VoiceOver or VO keys. So, for example, if you wanted to learn the layout of your keyboard by turning on keyboard practice mode, I'd describe the command as "VO-K", where this means simultaneously pressing the Control and Option keys together with the "K" key. In this mode, VoiceOver will announce any key that you press, without performing the corresponding action. This is a good way to learn/remember the VoiceOver functions, such as VO+F8 to bring up the VoiceOver Utility to configure your options, such as speaking rate, voices, etc. and VO+H to bring up the VoiceOver help menu. > > You'll get a short walk-through introduction as soon as you turn VoiceOver with Command+F5. The same key sequence toggles VoiceOver off. Since you're running Leopard, I'd recommend taking a look at Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver pages: > http://web.me.com/kilburns/voiceover/ > The sidebar lets you choose "Leopard Apps", so you not only get an overview of the operating system, but some of the descriptions will be specific to Leopard's layout. > > Also, listen to some of Mike Arrigo's podcasts on Blind Cool Tech. The earlier ones are done on Leopard. I;ll paste in a list with the descriptors: > > Mac Accessibility Demo > 5/24/2008 Mike overviews the accessibility features in the Mac and demonstrates web browsing, email, and word processing. 28.6 MB > > Mac Accessibility Demo Part 2 > 6/12/2008 Mike Arrigo continues the tour of the accessibility of the Mac using the built-in screen reader, Voice Over. Mike demonstrates streaming audio and using the Voice Over web find feature. 23.9 MB > > Mac Demo Part 3 > 8/12/2008 Mike Arrigo answers questions from the first two episodes in this series about the Mac and Voice Over, its built in screen reader. He explains how to boot from the system DVD, shows a slick technique for moving through mail messages more quickly, and tours the Voice Over Control Panel to show the customizations you may make. He also demonstrates using the web browser on the internet and demonstrates how it works with Ebay. 22.0 MB > > Mac Demo 4 > 12/16/2008 Mike Arrigo continues this series by answering questions, showing the improved accessibility in iTunes 8, playing a DVD, and using the web with dynamic web pages. 22.8 MB > > Mac Demo 5 > 1/18/2009 Mike Arrigo continues this series about built-in accessibility on the Mac by demonstrating running Windows on the Mac. He discusses the reasons why you would want to run Windows on a Mac, then talks about how it works, runs both the Mac operating system and Windows at the same time, and shows running Window-eyes, System Access, and Kurzweil 1000. 17.8 MB > > Mac Demo 6 > 2/9/2009 Mike Arrigo describes how to walk up to a Mac in the store and get it talking, so you can try it there. He also demonstrates using Voice Over on the numeric keypad and shows how to copy files. He copies a book to an SD card for use on the Victor Reader Stream. 18.1 MB > > Mac Demo 7 > 3/17/2009 Mike Arrigo looks at the software update feature on the mac, goes through most of the system preferences, and mentions things that blind users may want to change. He shows how to enable the option so you can see file extensions, shows how to change what programs are used to open different types of files, and demonstrates how to install programs on the mac. 24.5 MB > > Mac Demo 8 > 6/16/2009 Mike Arrigo offers another perspective than that presented in the June issue of The Monitor about the useability of the Macintosh with its built-in screen reading software, VoiceOver. 29.3 M > > Mac Demo 9 > 7/24/2009 Mike Arrigo shows how Voice Over on the Mac interacts with three commercially available programs that were not written by Apple to emphasize the universal access to a wide variety of applications. 18.4 MB > > Install Snow Leopard > 9/1/2009 Mike Arrigo independently installs the Snow Leopard operating system using Voice Over, the Mac's built-in screen reader and discusses some of its enhancements. 21.4 MB > > New Features In VoiceOver > 9/6/2009 Mike Arrigo discusses the new features in VoiceOver with the release of Snow Leopard. 21.7 MB > > Mac Podcast 12 > 11/30/2009 Mike Arrigo shares some news tidbits, more 3rd party applications for backup and maintenance, a media player, a bible program, and how to tether a Symbian phone to use the cell data plan for your Mac internet connection. 22.9 MB > > Mac Demo 13 > 6/8/2010 Mike Arrigo describes the new Mac Book and demonstrates some of the gestures using the track pad. He also demonstrates iWorks' and Open Office's word processor and spreadsheet applications. 18.9 MB > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:53, Terri S wrote: > >> Hello there, >> >> Thank you for all the advice so far. I really appreciate it. I decided to go ahead and purchase the computer. My friend that took me to get it, said that if I couldn't use it that he would buy it. So I really couldn't see passing up a good deal. >> >> Anyway, we got it home and it seems to run real well. >> My friend says that it shows a leopard skin as the background. Does anyone know if this means anything? >> >> Also, can I try to turn on voiceover? >> How would I go about doing this? >> You will need to tell me where the keys are, because I won't know. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Terri From n0oxy at charter.net Sun Jun 12 00:51:10 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:51:10 -0500 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP><71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <4D5981D1-99EB-4812-AE02-FE0595F5E828@charter.net> To turn on voiceover, you would hold the command key which is next to the space bar and press f5 On Jun 11, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Terri S wrote: > Hello there, > > Thank you for all the advice so far. I really appreciate it. I decided to go ahead and purchase the computer. My friend that took me to get it, said that if I couldn't use it that he would buy it. So I really couldn't see passing up a good deal. > > Anyway, we got it home and it seems to run real well. > My friend says that it shows a leopard skin as the background. Does anyone know if this means anything? > > Also, can I try to turn on voiceover? > How would I go about doing this? > You will need to tell me where the keys are, because I won't know. > > Thank you, > > Terri > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 01:31:53 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:31:53 +0800 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net> <923EC2BE973D48A9AC0C531777898160@ACERLAPTOP> Message-ID: <4df408fd.4224440a.2bee.ffffc3e9@mx.google.com> That is a very very old machine; unless you are getting it for literally nothing, I'd really consider not getting it. Kevin At 11:59 PM 6/11/2011, you wrote: >Hello Terri, > >The iMac you might be getting is probably a G4, and will not, >therefore, be able to take Snow Leopard or the soon-to-be-released >Lion. However, it will take Leopard and you will have VoiceOver, but >with fewer features than in the later versions of the OS. > >Cheers, > >Anne > > >On Jun 11, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Terri S wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > Well this Imac I am getting is a little older, but is a good > deal. It came out in 2005, but it has wifi, and an 80 gig hard > drive. I am not sure what operating software it has on it though, > because the person I am getting from, didn't understand my question. LOL > > > > If the Imac does have voiceover, how do I check to see? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Terri > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 01:35:02 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:35:02 +0800 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <4df409ba.a511440a.51a7.ffffca2f@mx.google.com> Well, you didn't have to use an Apple monitor. The new Mac Minis have HDMI ports, plus a mini display port which, with an adapter, will support DVI or VGA. A mini is a very nice machine however; I'd really wait on one right now. They're due to be updated soon and you'd hate yourself if you got one only to have a new one come out. If history is any guide, it should have the new I5 and I7 dual core chips from the 13-inch MBP which is a huge step up from the current core two duos. hth Kevin At 12:24 AM 6/12/2011, you wrote: >I just bought an imac and it came with a blue tooth keyboard and >mouse. I started out to buy a mac mini, but I did not have a >compatible monitor and I didn't know if I'd be able to use the mouse >and keyboard I have from my pc. The monitor that Apple offers cost >more than the darned imac did, so in the long run the imac was way cheaper. > >On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > > > Well, if you're looking for a cost effective mac, skip the imac, > and get a minimac. It's around 600 bucks for the cheap version, > and you can use your existing usb keyboard, mouse and vga monitor > on them (assuming they still come with the vga adapter) That will > give you a computer that's cheaper, but just as powerful as the > imac, only it's smaller, takes up less space, and can use your existing parts. > > Of course, if you've got the funds, then an Imac isn't a bad > choice either, since you need nothing additional (other than > keyboard and mouse) to make it work. > > The good thing, is that it's all up to you how you want to go. > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 01:29:51 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:29:51 +0800 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: <4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net> Message-ID: <4df40883.4911440a.123d.ffffb3e4@mx.google.com> You do not want the regular MacBook, at least right now. The MacBook Pros received significant updates this March but so far, nothing has happened with the MacBook. So, right now, it is rather out of date. Nobody knows when, or if, Apple will update the Macbook but dont' touch it until they do. KB At 10:32 PM 6/11/2011, you wrote: >If you want a laptop, you might consider the regular macbook, it is >cheaper than an imac, actually I think the imac and macbook pro are >priced similarly, not sure though. >On Jun 11, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Terri S wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I just joined this list, because I am hoping to get an Imac. I > don't know much about it yet though. I would love a macbook, but I > just can't afford one of those yet. > > > > If I am able to get this Imac, this will be my first Mac > computer. I am very excited about this, but nervous at the same time. > > > > I know next to nothing about macs, and I don't even really know > where to begin doing research. > > What are some things a newby should know, when first starting out? > > This might be a loaded question, but how does a mac differ from a PC? > > > > Well I think these are all of the questions I have for now. > Anything you can tell me will be very much appreciated. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Terri > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Jun 12 02:28:24 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:28:24 -0500 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <38F35D86-1B4C-4C1F-A072-74CEEE817B31@softcon.com> No need to buy apple's monitor, the vga adapter costs 30 bucks, that's all. If your pc keyboard is usb, it will work just fine, as will any usb mouse. The minimac used to come with the dvi to vga adapter, but apparently they've removed that from the base configuration now, so it's an extra cost now (rather a silly option if you ask me) but that's what they decided over there, so that's what you get. *grin* I'd never bother with an apple monitor, you can purchase way cheaper ones even at walmart, so no need to waste the money there if you wanted a true dvi monitor. I'd personally just buy another adapter (got two minis here) and plug in a regular vga monitor (they can be had for 10-20 bucks at any regular pc repair shop) and you're all set. But, the nice thing about apple, is that you have multiple methods of accomplishing the same thing, so it's of course up to you which one you choose. :) From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Sun Jun 12 02:49:19 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:49:19 +1000 Subject: iClout and iTunes Match; [Was: Report: Convenience means iTunes users will pay for iTunesMatch] References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans> Lyn and all. I was going to reply on the simular line. Firstly, I work in the networking industry for one of the big vendors. The projection of the future is video data being the major type of data being sent across the internet. In fact, some prdictions state it will be more then 60% of the general traffic on the Internet. Cloud computer/storage has some major draw backs for home users. Businesses requirements are completely different and I will not address that here. As you touched on Lynn, data capping is one of the issues. The other issues are: 1. High speed band width. Depending on your country will determine how good your band width is. Some countries only get a maximum of 30 mbps using cable and a maximum of 24mbps using ADSL for download and a 1mbps upload. Other countries get 100 mpbs and I have even heard of 1 gig bps. This is for consumer subscribers. bps is bits per second. If you wish to work out your bytes per second divide by 8. In any case, if you store a large amount of your data remotely and you have a slow connection. Then it will take a long time to transmit. Also, ADSL speeds of 20 to 24 mbps is normally achieved when the subscriber is less then 1 km (5/8 miles). anything beyond this your speed on DSL drops. 2. Cost of storing your data remotely. There are some sites that charge under $100.00 per year for unlimited. But you have no control over if the data is deleted or not. If the data isn't used frequently, the data could be deleted without you wanting it to be. also, the type of data you should store on these online storage environment have conditions associated with them. If you want to store data on a more permanent bases and have more control over. Then the prices are a lot higher and on going. Compared if you had the same storage at home accessible by the Internet. Example: If you have a nas unit of 8 TB at home. This might cost you around $1000. No conditions on what you store and limitation is your band width. This is a one off cost other than your Internet charges. There was a site that gave me a VM (virtual machine) with 6 tb and it would have cost me $100 per month with a gig bps link and unlimited traffic. This is about $1200 per year plus my internet costs. There were some conditions, but basically I was responsible to manage the data. If you use dropbox, sendspace, etc. Then you do get unlimited storage with a lot of conditions and no true control on your data. The cost of these useful sites are under $100 per year plus your internet charges. Depending on how much control and flexibility you want will determine your costs. If I had unlimited internet access at home. I would not worry about using anyones remote storage because it is the cheapest and best managed solution from my point of view. 3. Mobile devices are the biggest rip off for data capping of all. The caps on these ISP services are under 10gb for majority of countries. I would like to know what other countries maximum data plans for mobile are and costs. Also mobile data transmission depending on your phone/mobile wireless device is under 20mbps. I think the average is about 8 mpbs roughly. 4. connectivity relibility. As being a consumer, your uptime commitment by your ISP is completely different than a business. In fact, the networking parameters they use for consumers is different than business. You don't get the same quality or relibility as businesses. But businesses pay for the extra attention. If you are at home and wanted to access your music or remote storage. Your internet goes down. Then you cannot access that data and you are completely relying on the ISP time frame for returning your services. Of course the same goes if any where in the Internet cloud including the remote storage venders connection goes down. If the data is stored locally. Then from my point of view there is a lot lower risk of not accessing your data. But the future is going to be cloud computering since companies see big bucks in it. Applications, services, etc are going that way. Sean From chaas0217 at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 02:54:09 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:54:09 -0600 Subject: Long Headers in Mail and VO In-Reply-To: References: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> Message-ID: Hi: I tried Chris' suggestion, and had no luck whatsoever. Such is the way with the mac. Some things work great for some and not for others, and who knows why.:) In any case, I've done a great deal of off-list replying from the headers. The way I've found that works best for me is to interact with the header. Move forward through the email address to the end of it, then vo-shift-left arrow to select it, and it most likely will copy. HTH Carolyn On Jun 11, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: > Hi. The command that your looking for in this case is VO CMD space. once you've located the beginning of the email address. This command will perform a mouse click and will invoke a menu that allows you to reply to sender. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 11/06/2011, at 11:04 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I wanted to respond privately to someone on this list and in order to do so, I used Shift-Command-H to get to the Long header of a note that this person posted to this list. When I interacted with the Long Header, I was unable to move character-by-character to ascertain the individual's e-mail address. I also tried to use the context menu (Shift-VO-M) while on the e-mail address in question, but this got me nowhere. While it is possible to invoke VO-W to hear the address spelled out, I can't seem to find a way to copy and paste this person't address into a new e-mail. >> >> On an aside, I was trying to get Dane's address from a response of his to a question of mine here on the list. :) >> >> Best regards to all, >> >> Mike >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Jun 12 06:53:47 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 00:53:47 -0500 Subject: iClout and iTunes Match; [Was: Report: Convenience means iTunes users will pay for iTunesMatch] In-Reply-To: <63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans> References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> <63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans> Message-ID: I realize most of these companies are making users think the cloud is the way to go, and though that may be, Me personally, I have no problem using the cloud for backup, but that's about all. Depending on the cloud to be your primary (or only) storage is just asking for trouble. Now, using it for backup makes perfect sense, because it's off site, it's spread out, and it's accessible nearly anywhere. If you're not home, and you just *have* to have that file, you can get it. If your house gets blown away in a hurricane, your data is safe. On the other hand, if you use it as your primary or only storage, and the cloud provider goes away, you're completely 100 percent out of luck, and there's nothing you can do to retrieve that data. So, that's why I'll never use cloud storage as anything but a fancy remote offsite backup service. It deserves nothing more imo. Of course, others think differently, and that's fine, I have nothing against those folks. I'm just a bit paranoid, and having my only copy of data halfway around the world controlled by who knows what system, just doesn't appeal to me as a viable solution for storage. Sadly though, this does indeed appear to be the way things are going. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if in 10 years, computers are sold with the os burned into rom, and a cloud attachment for your data storage needs. Don't think I'd like it very much then, but that's where I see things going. Just my $0.02 worth. From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sun Jun 12 07:45:24 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:45:24 +0200 Subject: VueScan working great for OCR In-Reply-To: References: <4313F837-2815-4E29-B1EA-59ADDB9BCB75@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <70B11BAA-1DFE-45A3-BDBD-209816538A7E@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Bryan, VueScan is all you need as long as you don't mind sorting out the orientation yourself. Otherwise, passing off to ABBYY FineReader solves this problem. I'm not bothered by the orientation problem as I use an Optacon and can find out easily which way round a document is, but I can understand why people would find this limitation in VueScan a show stopper. Cheers, Anne On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello Anne, > > Thank you for this information. Do I remember correctly that you previously used a combination of VueScan and Abby Fine Reader? Do you now feel that VueScan performs well enough on it's own to perform both the scanning and OCR functions without needing to pass the scans along to Abby for the OCR work? > > TIA, > Bryan > > On Jun 10, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> I've been in contact with Ed Hamrick, the developer of VueScan. The latest version of VueScan now works great. I just had to press Cmd-N to produce a beautiful RTF file of an article from New SCientist magazine. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 08:13:15 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:13:15 +0800 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: <38F35D86-1B4C-4C1F-A072-74CEEE817B31@softcon.com> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> <38F35D86-1B4C-4C1F-A072-74CEEE817B31@softcon.com> Message-ID: <4df4670f.4323440a.4f70.ffffc1e0@mx.google.com> MerritLine often sells them for $8. In fact, I bought a mini display port to HDMI adapter, with an HDMI cable, for $8 recently. Kevin At 09:28 AM 6/12/2011, you wrote: >No need to buy apple's monitor, the vga adapter costs 30 bucks, >that's all. >If your pc keyboard is usb, it will work just fine, as will any usb >mouse. >The minimac used to come with the dvi to vga adapter, but apparently >they've removed that from the base configuration now, so it's an >extra cost now (rather a silly option if you ask me) but that's what >they decided over there, so that's what you get. *grin* >I'd never bother with an apple monitor, you can purchase way cheaper >ones even at walmart, so no need to waste the money there if you >wanted a true dvi monitor. >I'd personally just buy another adapter (got two minis here) and plug >in a regular vga monitor (they can be had for 10-20 bucks at any >regular pc repair shop) >and you're all set. >But, the nice thing about apple, is that you have multiple methods of >accomplishing the same thing, so it's of course up to you which one >you choose. :) > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Sun Jun 12 10:52:11 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:52:11 +1000 Subject: iClout and iTunes Match; [Was: Report: Convenience means iTunes users will pay for iTunesMatch] References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com><63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans> Message-ID: Hi Trev, Yes. I agree. But if you have caps on your data and also slow band width plus large data. Then the off site backup is costly and restrictive. Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 3:53 PM Subject: Re: iClout and iTunes Match;[Was: Report: Convenience means iTunes users will pay for iTunesMatch] >I realize most of these companies are making users think the cloud is the >way to go, and though that may be, Me personally, I have no problem using >the cloud for backup, but that's about all. > Depending on the cloud to be your primary (or only) storage is just > asking for trouble. > Now, using it for backup makes perfect sense, because it's off site, it's > spread out, and it's accessible nearly anywhere. If you're not home, and > you just *have* to have that file, you can get it. > If your house gets blown away in a hurricane, your data is safe. > On the other hand, if you use it as your primary or only storage, and the > cloud provider goes away, you're completely 100 percent out of luck, and > there's nothing you can do to retrieve that data. > So, that's why I'll never use cloud storage as anything but a fancy > remote offsite backup service. It deserves nothing more imo. > Of course, others think differently, and that's fine, I have nothing > against those folks. I'm just a bit paranoid, and having my only copy of > data halfway around the world controlled by who knows what system, just > doesn't appeal to me as a viable solution for storage. > Sadly though, this does indeed appear to be the way things are going. It > wouldn't surprise me in the least if in 10 years, computers are sold with > the os burned into rom, and a cloud attachment for your data storage > needs. > Don't think I'd like it very much then, but that's where I see things > going. > Just my $0.02 worth. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jun 12 13:53:18 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:53:18 +0100 Subject: iClout and iTunes Match; [Was: Report: Convenience means iTunes users will pay for iTunes Match] In-Reply-To: References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think iTunes Match is fantastic. I have many many CDs and the Fact that Apple will match them without having to upload them all to the cloud is fantastic. You have to do this with Amazon and Google, which would eat a lot of bandwidth and take forever to upload. I think Apple's approach is sensible and fair. It is just a shame it is not coming to the UK until at least somewhere in the middle of next year. I think my CDs are heading into the loft as soon as this service becomes active. On 12 Jun 2011, at 00:21, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah & all > > On 10 Jun 2011, at 01:16, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > ? I still use cds believe it or not and will continue to do so until the format dies completely. I keep all of my back ups and am a posed to this in every single way. But in the end it's to each his or her own. > > As a species, we humans are inherently slow to adapt and to embrace change. We are also quick to judge; every single one of us is guilty of those flaws; so please don't anybody deny it. ;-) > > Be that as it may, I'm about to display my guilt. This really worries me. Many people have limited, (capped) broadband. The increasing amount of "Cloud" usage is bound to put strains and stresses on users and providers alike. iTunes Match or whatever it's going to be called is going to be a major contributor to the additional charges which, inevitably, users will incur from their providers. > > It wouldn't surprises me even if the charges are not justified, were providers to take advantage of this and bump of the prices. So I think that whether or not we utilise Cloud technology, we are all going to see spiralling Internet costs in the coming months. > > Just my view for whatever it is worth. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 14:06:11 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:06:11 +0100 Subject: iClout and iTunes Match; [Was: Report: Convenience means iTunes users will pay for iTunes Match] In-Reply-To: References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> Message-ID: what is this match thing in itunes? going to research this more haven't been keeping up to speed On 12 Jun 2011, at 13:53, Chris Moore wrote: > I think iTunes Match is fantastic. I have many many CDs and the Fact that Apple will match them without having to upload them all to the cloud is fantastic. You have to do this with Amazon and Google, which would eat a lot of bandwidth and take forever to upload. I think Apple's approach is sensible and fair. It is just a shame it is not coming to the UK until at least somewhere in the middle of next year. I think my CDs are heading into the loft as soon as this service becomes active. > On 12 Jun 2011, at 00:21, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Sarah & all >> >> On 10 Jun 2011, at 01:16, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >> ? I still use cds believe it or not and will continue to do so until the format dies completely. I keep all of my back ups and am a posed to this in every single way. But in the end it's to each his or her own. >> >> As a species, we humans are inherently slow to adapt and to embrace change. We are also quick to judge; every single one of us is guilty of those flaws; so please don't anybody deny it. ;-) >> >> Be that as it may, I'm about to display my guilt. This really worries me. Many people have limited, (capped) broadband. The increasing amount of "Cloud" usage is bound to put strains and stresses on users and providers alike. iTunes Match or whatever it's going to be called is going to be a major contributor to the additional charges which, inevitably, users will incur from their providers. >> >> It wouldn't surprises me even if the charges are not justified, were providers to take advantage of this and bump of the prices. So I think that whether or not we utilise Cloud technology, we are all going to see spiralling Internet costs in the coming months. >> >> Just my view for whatever it is worth. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 12 16:49:43 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:49:43 +0100 Subject: iClout and iTunes Match; [Was: Report: Convenience means iTunes users will pay for iTunesMatch] In-Reply-To: <63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans> References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> <63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans> Message-ID: <1C79D5CE-7826-44E1-AACF-4907D6FFBBBE@mac-access.net> Hello Sean We're getting somewhat off topic for the group here, so could we close this thread now because it is too generic. Lynne From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sun Jun 12 19:07:45 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:07:45 -0400 Subject: Using facebook on a Mac? Message-ID: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jun 12 19:19:56 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:19:56 +0100 Subject: Using facebook on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <2CF38BC3-1A8C-466A-9D1C-28A5F335CEA4@blueyonder.co.uk> Face tab in the app store is pretty good. On 12 Jun 2011, at 19:07, Tracy Duffy wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sun Jun 12 19:36:30 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:36:30 -0400 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: <4df409ba.a511440a.51a7.ffffca2f@mx.google.com> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> <4df409ba.a511440a.51a7.ffffca2f@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <9E005DBE-C4A4-417E-8E5F-5919B8A19C9A@nc.rr.com> Well, whatever the case, I have my imac now and I like it. Now I'm learning all the ins and outs of using a mac. On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > Well, you didn't have to use an Apple monitor. > The new Mac Minis have HDMI ports, plus a mini display port which, with an adapter, will support DVI or VGA. > A mini is a very nice machine however; I'd really wait on one right now. They're due to be updated soon and you'd hate yourself if you got one only to have a new one come out. > If history is any guide, it should have the new I5 and I7 dual core chips from the 13-inch MBP which is a huge step up from the current core two duos. > hth > Kevin > > At 12:24 AM 6/12/2011, you wrote: >> I just bought an imac and it came with a blue tooth keyboard and mouse. I started out to buy a mac mini, but I did not have a compatible monitor and I didn't know if I'd be able to use the mouse and keyboard I have from my pc. The monitor that Apple offers cost more than the darned imac did, so in the long run the imac was way cheaper. >> >> On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: >> >> > Well, if you're looking for a cost effective mac, skip the imac, and get a minimac. It's around 600 bucks for the cheap version, and you can use your existing usb keyboard, mouse and vga monitor on them (assuming they still come with the vga adapter) That will give you a computer that's cheaper, but just as powerful as the imac, only it's smaller, takes up less space, and can use your existing parts. >> > Of course, if you've got the funds, then an Imac isn't a bad choice either, since you need nothing additional (other than keyboard and mouse) to make it work. >> > The good thing, is that it's all up to you how you want to go. >> > >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> > >> > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> > >> > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sun Jun 12 19:41:43 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:41:43 -0400 Subject: iClout and iTunes Match; [Was: Report: Convenience means iTunes users will pay for iTunesMatch] In-Reply-To: References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> <63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans> Message-ID: <87F8B36A-A5B4-42AE-8028-36DC7A4DB09F@nc.rr.com> Some say that such widespread use of cloud opens the way for security issues as well. I don't know enough to know if that true, but it may certainly be something to think about. On Jun 12, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > I realize most of these companies are making users think the cloud is the way to go, and though that may be, Me personally, I have no problem using the cloud for backup, but that's about all. > Depending on the cloud to be your primary (or only) storage is just asking for trouble. > Now, using it for backup makes perfect sense, because it's off site, it's spread out, and it's accessible nearly anywhere. If you're not home, and you just *have* to have that file, you can get it. > If your house gets blown away in a hurricane, your data is safe. > On the other hand, if you use it as your primary or only storage, and the cloud provider goes away, you're completely 100 percent out of luck, and there's nothing you can do to retrieve that data. > So, that's why I'll never use cloud storage as anything but a fancy remote offsite backup service. It deserves nothing more imo. > Of course, others think differently, and that's fine, I have nothing against those folks. I'm just a bit paranoid, and having my only copy of data halfway around the world controlled by who knows what system, just doesn't appeal to me as a viable solution for storage. > Sadly though, this does indeed appear to be the way things are going. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if in 10 years, computers are sold with the os burned into rom, and a cloud attachment for your data storage needs. > Don't think I'd like it very much then, but that's where I see things going. > Just my $0.02 worth. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 12 19:50:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:50:32 +0100 Subject: Tracy Has Her iMac; [Was: Possibly getting an Imac] In-Reply-To: <9E005DBE-C4A4-417E-8E5F-5919B8A19C9A@nc.rr.com> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> <4df409ba.a511440a.51a7.ffffca2f@mx.google.com> <9E005DBE-C4A4-417E-8E5F-5919B8A19C9A@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: Hi all Please try to remember to keep subject lines current. We are going to introducing filters to enforce this before long by limiting the number of messages on a thread without a change in subject lines. Those who exceed the maximum will find their message bouncing. So to avoid irritation further down the line when we bring this on line, may I suggest that people learn the lesson now. Tracy; I'm delighted that you have your iMac. Lynne On 12 Jun 2011, at 19:36, Tracy Duffy wrote: Well, whatever the case, I have my imac now and I like it. Now I'm learning all the ins and outs of using a mac. From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 12 19:52:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:52:32 +0100 Subject: This Thread Is Closed; [Was: iClout and iTunes Match In-Reply-To: <87F8B36A-A5B4-42AE-8028-36DC7A4DB09F@nc.rr.com> References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> <63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans> <87F8B36A-A5B4-42AE-8028-36DC7A4DB09F@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <2CB8C152-BC3D-452F-8B67-E53A5948A6DA@mac-access.net> End of thread please, this has nothing specifically to do with Apple. Lynne From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jun 12 19:56:33 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:56:33 +0100 Subject: This Thread Is Closed; [Was: iClout and iTunes Match In-Reply-To: <2CB8C152-BC3D-452F-8B67-E53A5948A6DA@mac-access.net> References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> <63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans> <87F8B36A-A5B4-42AE-8028-36DC7A4DB09F@nc.rr.com> <2CB8C152-BC3D-452F-8B67-E53A5948A6DA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <09F1DECC-230E-402A-B629-5A82E1887EE6@blueyonder.co.uk> Lynne, Not that I am bothered that the thread is closed, but how does it not have anything to do with Apple if Apple own iCloud and have just launched the service? On 12 Jun 2011, at 19:52, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > End of thread please, this has nothing specifically to do with Apple. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jun 12 19:57:32 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:57:32 +0100 Subject: Tracy Has Her iMac; [Was: Possibly getting an Imac] In-Reply-To: References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> <71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com> <340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> <4df409ba.a511440a.51a7.ffffca2f@mx.google.com> <9E005DBE-C4A4-417E-8E5F-5919B8A19C9A@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: Is that really necessary? Is it not getting a tad bit over controlling? On 12 Jun 2011, at 19:50, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hi all > > Please try to remember to keep subject lines current. We are going to introducing filters to enforce this before long by limiting the number of messages on a thread without a change in subject lines. Those who exceed the maximum will find their message bouncing. So to avoid irritation further down the line when we bring this on line, may I suggest that people learn the lesson now. > > Tracy; I'm delighted that you have your iMac. > > Lynne > > On 12 Jun 2011, at 19:36, Tracy Duffy wrote: > > Well, whatever the case, I have my imac now and I like it. Now I'm learning all the ins and outs of using a mac. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 12 20:00:55 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:00:55 +0100 Subject: This Thread Is Closed; [Was: iClout and iTunes Match In-Reply-To: <09F1DECC-230E-402A-B629-5A82E1887EE6@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> <63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans> <87F8B36A-A5B4-42AE-8028-36DC7A4DB09F@nc.rr.com> <2CB8C152-BC3D-452F-8B67-E53A5948A6DA@mac-access.net> <09F1DECC-230E-402A-B629-5A82E1887EE6@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <55C0BE38-30B7-4227-A2D6-B6FAFC2DE665@mac-access.net> Chris The discussion has mutated away from Apple iCloud to cloud technology in general. Therefore, it is inappropriate technology discussion for this group. Lynne On 12 Jun 2011, at 19:56, Chris Moore wrote: Lynne, Not that I am bothered that the thread is closed, but how does it not have anything to do with Apple if Apple own iCloud and have just launched the service? From solsticesinger at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 20:08:19 2011 From: solsticesinger at gmail.com (Shannon Dyer) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:08:19 -0400 Subject: the mac and accessibleworld.org Message-ID: <87ABB308-8A25-44FE-9641-DA07F89F0DC3@gmail.com> Hi, list. I'm wondering if any of you have accessed www.accessibleworld.org or any other site that use the Talking Communities software with the mac. I was able to do it on the PC, but I don't think I can install the necessary plugin on the mac. It seems to e compatible with windows, but not the mac. Does anyone have any advice? Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jun 12 20:31:02 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:31:02 +0100 Subject: 153 features revealed so far for iOS 5 Message-ID: Updated Lockscreen New Welcome Screen when you start using the phone for first time. PC Free Activation. Notifications Center Quick Camera launch from Lockscreen Stocks and weather built into Notifications Center iPod app is renamed to Music with new icon. New Videos.app iMessage SMS bubbles are green in color and iMessage appears baby blue. Newsstand for Magazines and Newspapers Ability to Create and Delete Photo albums. System wide Twitter Integration. New Twitter keyboard with # and @ buttons. Ability to edit photos Grid System in Camera New rounded buttons Notification Center has ability to sort notifications by ?Manually? or By Time. You can choose what applications to be included in Notifications Center Ability to rename your device within the settings. Over the Air Delta Software updates The Usage screen now shows how much of the memory is consumed by each app. Wireless iTunes Sync You can enable or disable Voice Dial while the phone is locked in Security Settings Ability to add keyboard shortcuts. Default one included ?omw? which expands to ?On my way!? when you type it anywhere. New Speak Selection option in Accessibility Settings Ability to add custom vibrations New Assistive Touch Settings LED Flash for Alerts Ability to Set Left or Right for Mono Audio New iCloud options in Settings app You can create additional @me.com email address within the Mail settings Ability to Increase Quote Level in Mail Settings Twitter integration on contacts You can edit your number in Settings. New Facetime option in Settings window. You can also set your facetime caller ID to be your email or your phone number New Private Browsing option in Safari Ability to remove custom Website Data Ability to toggle iMessage ON or OFF in settings. Ability to enable Read Receipts iMessage sent as SMS when iMessage is unavailable You can now set how much time a message alert has to be shown again if you don?t respond to the phone when it notifies of a new message. Separate settings for Music and Videos Photo Stream You can set the default account for notes to be synced to in Notes options Toggle ON or OFF for Automatic Downloads. Setting to use Automatic Downloads only when the device is connected to WiFi Alternate Routes in Maps Purchase History in App Store. Individually delete entries from the call history. iCloud Backups Take pictures using Volume button If you tap and hold on a song name in Music.app, a popup shows all the details. Ability to drag email address? between fields while sending a mail in Mail.app Mail notifies you before sending a mail if you?ve forgotten to put a subject line. New and updated tiny icons on Mail for Windows Live Mail, Gmail, Exchange etc. Rich Text Editing in mail System Wide Dictionary Printing Support in Maps Ability to Hide Traffic in Maps You can set custom vibration tones for each contact, so when it vibrates in a specific pattern you know who?s calling. The notes.app shows the number of notes made on the header New Learn More Links across the settings app for further help Photos in Game Center Ability to make your Profile public and private on Game Center Points in Game Center, shows you how many points you have on the home screen of Game center Sort and View friends on the basis of Points. Friend Recommendations in Game Center New Games are now downloaded through Game Center Game Recommendations in Game Center New Friend requests screen Voice Memos app rotates in all direction, including upside down. Set custom text tone for each contact. Local Weather in Weather app Hourly weather updates Reading list in Safari Tabbed browsing in Safari on iPad Reader view which removes all clutter from web pages on iPad Split Keyboard on iPad AirPlay Mirroring You can use your phone while its being synced with iTunes. Emoji Support Tweet photos and links from iOS When you landscape your phone in iCal, it gives you a week view. (Thanks @Scott) New Music App in iPad iCloud Document Sync and Backup Slight fadeout on the right of the Safari Address Bar. Reading list support on Safari Location Based Reminders Calendar now lets you navigate from day to day by swiping. (Thanks @Garner) When you?re in camera mode, swipe left to reveal most recent photo. Swipe right to go back to the camera. Watermark in text entry box says ?iMessage? or ?Text Message? accordingly ?Unsecured Calls? warning lets users know if they are talking on unencrypted networks Group Messaging in iMessage. Send photos, videos using iMessage. Ability to use multiple Apple IDs for different purposes. (This has been one of the widely asked questions) When a notification is on the lockscreen, swipe it to open the specific app. Swipe on the weather to the left or right on the Notification Center drop down to view five day forecast. Multitasking Gestures in iPad. Use four or five fingers, swipe up to reveal the multitasking bar, pinch to return to the Home screen, and swipe left or right to switch between apps. S/MIME Support in Mail.app Facetime works without having a SIM card on your phone. Works with your email alone. When you receive a non-contacts phone call, the main display also shows the city name (or area/county if identifiable), not just the phone number. (Thanks @Alan) Camera, tap and hold to lock/unlock AE/AF (Thanks @Alan) Camera, use two-finger spread/pinch gesture to zoom in/out accordingly (Thanks @Alan) In Calendar month view, besides tapping on the ?+? button to add an event, you can also tap and hold on any day. (Thanks @Alan) When receiving a call from a number not in your phonebook, the phone will display the location of the phone area code under the number? i.e. + 1 (514) 321 2345 will display Quebec, Canada in a smaller font under the number and not just in the call history. (Thanks @Kubus) Use current location in Weather.app. (Thanks @Andy) Flagging Support in Mails. app In settings you can switch what option you get when you tap and hold on links in Safari: either open in background or in a new page. (Thanks @Andy) Swipe left and right to change months in calendar on iPad (Thanks @Shaun) Swipe to delete songs (Thanks @Derek) Buy More Storage option for iCloud Ability to set custom sound for alerts (New Message, New Voicemail, News Mail, Sent Mail etc.) Define your own words in Offline Dictionary Apps fades to homescreen when crashes, rather than flicking off. Ability to Enable/Disable Badges on Apps When you download an app on the iTunes on your PC, the app is automatically pushed to your iDevice and installed. Streaming Song details such as Track and Artist info to Bluetooth audio devices. (Thanks @Roy) When your alarm goes off you can snooze it from lockscreen or slide to turn off (Thanks @Terry) You can add multiple twitter accounts and choose what account to send a tweet from. Delete each app?s data iTunes Tune Store Real-time stock quotes VoiceOver item chooser Option to speak text selection When your phone is locked and you switch to Ringing from Silent, the Ringing indicator also shows the volume level bar. You can choose multiple Emails and mark them as read Download more than one app simultaneously. No waiting for the previous app to be completed You can choose if to display Weather and Stock Widges on Notification Center. New Voice in Voice Control You can re arrange the preference of apps in Notification Center. (Eg: You can set the Weather widget to be always on top, Messages next etc..) Ability to set maximum messages downloaded through email to 1000 instead of 250 Sponsored links in Google Maps Double-tap the home button while watching a YouTube video to display who uploaded the video Scrolling titles for YouTube videos Time mid-call invitation alerts Set up Airport / Time Capsule on your iOS device Invitation alerts to FaceTime while taking a call Arabic Language Support in VoiceOver Links can be opened in the background Integrate Twitter user pictures to Contacts. Sync them Native 1080p video playback in iPad 2 Japanese or Buddhist calendars support Year View in iPad cal Native Support for turn based games in Game Center Search Within the contents of an email Indentation Control in Mails.app Individual Site Data can be deleted from Safari Tabbed Browsing in Safari for iPad iOS 5 address book has a field for Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, LinkedIn and Myspace. (iOS 5 to integrate more social networks? Specific ?search on page? area integrated in the ipad keyboard (hit google when in safari) (Thanks @Michael) Have one app updating while others say ?waiting?,? then you pause the app updating. You then immediately put the iDevice on sleep. Next, when you wake up your iDevice, all of them will be paused. You can tap more than one app to have more than one downloading. (thanks @Michael) Personal Hotspot settings are now found under ?Network? settings. Screenshots Our list is growing and is incomplete. Feel free to comment and let us know if we miss anything. We are digging thorough the OS for minor changes. Follow the author of this post, @bennaiqbal on twitter. Follow us @ieatapplescom to keep updated with latest news From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Jun 12 20:35:33 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:35:33 -0500 Subject: tomes and bookshelf server Message-ID: I'll give these a go next time I get some extra funds to purchase stuff from the app store, but tomes is a program for ipod/ipad that allows you to read several different formatted ebooks, (epub, pdf, pdb, prc, and many more) but the nice thing about this app is that it has a server that you can run on your windows/linux/mac computer that will allow you to download books via wireless connections directly to your Idevice, with no Itunes involvement. This is a definite plus in my opinion. Has anyone tried this app or it's server combination? The server can be downloaded from: http://www.iphonebookshelf.com/ shelfserver.html It's opensource, and written in java, so will be relatively easy to fix if any accessibility issues crop up. The tomes app though I don't have yet, so can't comment on it's usability. If anyone knows how this app works, I sure would be interested in hearing about it. At least until I can purchase my own copy in a few weeks. From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Jun 12 21:44:01 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:44:01 +0100 Subject: i-phone problems or normal behaviour Message-ID: <4df52268.df0fd80a.6f48.fffff232@mx.google.com> >every these a sign of a problem with my i-phone or normal behaviour? the first thing i ask about is that my i-phone beeps every few seconds and i think i get a network lost even if i am just sat in a place where i have certainly got network coverage. this seems to happen at any random time and can be annoying when doing things like surfing the web in safari or even just listening to the i-pod. does anyone else experience this problem and if so have you found a fix or something for it? i am with vodafone if this information helps and i also have a bt homehub wireless router. this problem even happens when i am within range of my wireless router. the second thing i ask if it is normal is that during phone calls if i have voiceover enabled it both appears to chatter during calls when someone answers like it wants to say the number of the number etc being called. also i get the i-phone switch constantly between earpiece of the phone and external speaker which is both annoying for me and also i think has been known to bother the person i am speaking to at the other end. this causes the call to be choppy and breaks in the convversation ie part of words and sentences. the only work around i have found for this particular problem is to tripple press the home button which i have had to set up to disable voiceover before my call goes through to a caller and then at the end of the call i then have to quickly reactivate voiceover again so i can make sure that my call has ended properly with a double tap at the bottom left corner of the screen. hope someone can advise me regarding these problems. maybe there isn't really a solution as yet. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 22:01:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:01:47 -0700 Subject: i-phone problems or normal behaviour In-Reply-To: <4df52268.df0fd80a.6f48.fffff232@mx.google.com> References: <4df52268.df0fd80a.6f48.fffff232@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <147B9B73-E784-4280-93F3-7867A97F6E92@gmail.com> for your first question the iphone at least for me has a very weak card. I can be on the other side of my house and no signal but my computers will receive a signal. for the second issue try going in to and out of speaker once and that should solve the problem. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 12, 2011, at 1:44 PM, michael weaver wrote: >> every these a sign of a problem with my i-phone or normal > behavior? > the first thing i ask about is that my i-phone beeps every few seconds and i think i get a network lost even if i am just sat in a place where i have certainly got network coverage. > this seems to happen at any random time and can be annoying when doing things like surfing the web in safari or even just listening to the i-pod. > does anyone else experience this problem and if so have you found a fix or something for it? > i am with vodafone if this information helps and i also have a bt homehub wireless router. > this problem even happens when i am within range of my wireless router. > the second thing i ask if it is normal is that during phone calls if i have voiceover enabled it both appears to chatter during calls when someone answers like it wants to say the number of the number etc being called. > also i get the i-phone switch constantly between earpiece of the phone and external speaker which is both annoying for me and also i think has been known to bother the person i am speaking to at the other end. > this causes the call to be choppy and breaks in the convversation ie part of words and sentences. > the only work around i have found for this particular problem is to tripple press the home button which i have had to set up to disable voiceover before my call goes through to a caller and then at the end of the call i then have to quickly reactivate voiceover again so i can make sure that my call has ended properly with a double tap at the bottom left corner of the screen. > hope someone can advise me regarding these problems. > maybe there isn't really a solution as yet. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 22:11:00 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas rudolph) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:11:00 -0600 Subject: Tracy Has Her iMac; [Was: Possibly getting an Imac] In-Reply-To: References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP><71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com><340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com><4df409ba.a511440a.51a7.ffffca2f@mx.google.com><9E005DBE-C4A4-417E-8E5F-5919B8A19C9A@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: ya know chris, i agree, like really, it still has to do with i cloud, and apple, just really this is going to far,no offence to list mods but they must think they are god or something... This email may contain personal identifyable information. Copy, relay, redistributions, and or reading of these emails is strictly prohibited, unless you are the intended recipiant of this email, and this intended recipiant only. If this is not the intended recipiant, then you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify sender. Douglas Rudolph Tel: 1306-565-2056 Cell: 1306-209-2823 Email: doug.cam3 at gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Tracy Has Her iMac; [Was: Possibly getting an Imac] > Is that really necessary? Is it not getting a tad bit over controlling? > On 12 Jun 2011, at 19:50, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Please try to remember to keep subject lines current. We are going to >> introducing filters to enforce this before long by limiting the number of >> messages on a thread without a change in subject lines. Those who exceed >> the maximum will find their message bouncing. So to avoid irritation >> further down the line when we bring this on line, may I suggest that >> people learn the lesson now. >> >> Tracy; I'm delighted that you have your iMac. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 12 Jun 2011, at 19:36, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >> Well, whatever the case, I have my imac now and I like it. Now I'm >> learning all the ins and outs of using a mac. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 22:14:59 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas rudolph) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:14:59 -0600 Subject: important Message-ID: hey guys, i am letting you all know now, there has been a breech of privicy on my gmail account, i am doing all i can to fix this issue, so if there is spam emails being sent out, i am truely sorry. 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Douglas Rudolph Tel: 1306-565-2056 Cell: 1306-209-2823 Email: doug.cam3 at gmail.com From atlasonic at btopenworld.com Sun Jun 12 22:38:06 2011 From: atlasonic at btopenworld.com (Atlasonic Productions) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:38:06 +0100 Subject: Upgrading from G4 to Leopard References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP><4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net><923EC2BE973D48A9AC0C531777898160@ACERLAPTOP><23F10F96-EBAC-4901-BE3E-E1CDED48D1FF@gmail.com> <9068B064-7E1B-4EE3-815E-5EC29A03C06F@softcon.com> Message-ID: <9F8B1D173BF14A739843C780ACD8FA85@alatlas> How can you upgrade from G4 to Leopard then, please? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 5:20 PM Subject: Re: Possibly getting an Imac > > On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Orin wrote: > >> It depends on what time it came out in 2005. It might end up with Tiger >> on it. > But even the g4 can be upgraded to run leopard. Even if it comes with > tiger, that can be upgraded to leopard with very little trouble, so no > worries there. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jun 12 23:16:01 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:16:01 +0100 Subject: Upgrading from G4 to Leopard In-Reply-To: <9F8B1D173BF14A739843C780ACD8FA85@alatlas> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP><4AAE8976-8762-40CF-BAE6-11BCF2273EE0@charter.net><923EC2BE973D48A9AC0C531777898160@ACERLAPTOP><23F10F96-EBAC-4901-BE3E-E1CDED48D1FF@gmail.com> <9068B064-7E1B-4EE3-815E-5EC29A03C06F@softcon.com> <9F8B1D173BF14A739843C780ACD8FA85@alatlas> Message-ID: Hello On 12 Jun 2011, at 22:38, Atlasonic Productions wrote: > How can you upgrade from G4 to Leopard then, please? G4 is the name given to your Mac's current processor, and is older Power PC hardware. In 2005/6, Apple made the switch from PPC to Intel chips. As such, Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard is as far as you can go with your current processor, as every post 10.5 runs solely on Intel-based Macs. So to answer your question, you can still buy retail versions of Leopard on DVD, but depending on what came with your Mac, you might find that you're running Leopard already. To check this; 1. Go to the Apple Menu with either VO+M or Control+F2 and press down arrow to open it. 2. Press enter on "About This Mac" 3. Navigate the dialogue and you'll hear whether you're running 10.4 or 10.5 If you're running 10.4, you you'll need to go buy a copy of Leopard if you don't have one already. Amazon might be a good place to go. If you want to upgrade to 10.7 which is due for release next month however, you'll need to purchase a new Mac. HTH TC :) James > How can you upgrade from G4 to Leopard then, please? > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: Possibly getting an Imac > > >> >> On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Orin wrote: >> >>> It depends on what time it came out in 2005. It might end up with Tiger on it. >> But even the g4 can be upgraded to run leopard. Even if it comes with tiger, that can be upgraded to leopard with very little trouble, so no worries there. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From princessterri76 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 00:40:12 2011 From: princessterri76 at gmail.com (Terri S) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:40:12 -0400 Subject: Upgrading my Mac References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP><71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com><340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> <76B3139D-0BCF-477C-B7EB-312BE45BE2A0@mac.com> Message-ID: <86F1F7026C374C909615A07F93527C89@ACERLAPTOP> Hello everyone, Well the mac I bought does not have voiceover apparently. Nothing happens when I use alt F5. How do I go about finding out what version of operating system is on it? Also, how do I go about upgrading it? Will this cost me money? If so, about how much? Thank you, Terri From rattail4 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 00:42:59 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (mike) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:42:59 -0400 Subject: Upgrading my Mac In-Reply-To: <86F1F7026C374C909615A07F93527C89@ACERLAPTOP> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP><71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com><340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com><76B3139D-0BCF-477C-B7EB-312BE45BE2A0@mac.com> <86F1F7026C374C909615A07F93527C89@ACERLAPTOP> Message-ID: <43CBA13E955B414D91794F4958B62966@mquadPC> first, how old is the Mac you got, like what type is it. as for upgrading you'd have to have an OS disc for snow leopard, if that's what you want to go too. There's a podcast on blind cool tech that explains it pretty well. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Terri S" Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 19:40 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Upgrading my Mac > Hello everyone, > > Well the mac I bought does not have voiceover apparently. Nothing happens > when I use alt F5. > > How do I go about finding out what version of operating system is on it? > Also, how do I go about upgrading it? > Will this cost me money? > If so, about how much? > > Thank you, > > Terri > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From chaas0217 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 00:55:17 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:55:17 -0600 Subject: This Thread Is Closed; [Was: iClout and iTunes Match In-Reply-To: <09F1DECC-230E-402A-B629-5A82E1887EE6@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com> <63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans> <87F8B36A-A5B4-42AE-8028-36DC7A4DB09F@nc.rr.com> <2CB8C152-BC3D-452F-8B67-E53A5948A6DA@mac-access.net> <09F1DECC-230E-402A-B629-5A82E1887EE6@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: hris: You never could take no for an answer. :) 'carolyn On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Lynne, > > Not that I am bothered that the thread is closed, but how does it not have anything to do with Apple if Apple own iCloud and have just launched the service? > On 12 Jun 2011, at 19:52, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> End of thread please, this has nothing specifically to do with Apple. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Jun 13 00:55:37 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:55:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Upgrading my Mac In-Reply-To: <86F1F7026C374C909615A07F93527C89@ACERLAPTOP> Message-ID: Hi Terri, You're pressing the wrong key combination: it's the Command Key (not the Alt key) + F5 to toggle VoiceOver on and off, and unless your computer was manufactured earlier than you state, VoiceOver should definitely come on. ?It may come on with either Tiger or Leopard, but according to your description, it sounds as though Leopard is loaded. ?The Command key should be just to the left of the space bar key, and the F5 kye should be along the top row of keys on the keyboard, from left to right: Escape, F1, F2, F3, F4, and F5. ?Someone who has an iMac or desktop Mac keyboard can correct me if I'm wrong about this. ?Also, I'm assuming that you have a standard Apple Keyboard. ?If you're using an Apple Bluetooth keyboard (such as the current model Apple Wireless Keyboard), there may be 3 keys on the bottom row to the left of space bar instead of four, but the Command key is still just to the left of the space bar. Esther On Jun 12, 2011, at 01:40 PM, Terri S wrote: Hello everyone, Well the mac I bought does not have voiceover apparently. Nothing happens when I use alt F5. How do I go about finding out what version of operating system is on it? Also, how do I go about upgrading it? Will this cost me money? If so, about how much? Thank you, Terri From princessterri76 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 01:13:47 2011 From: princessterri76 at gmail.com (Terri S) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:13:47 -0400 Subject: Upgrading my Mac References: Message-ID: <632ADF5F54914D1B885828DB07EA2F66@ACERLAPTOP> Hi there, I meant the command key, not the alt key. Oops! I am used to a windows machine. I was told this computer came out in 2005. It has WIFI capeability. I am not sure what operating system it could handle. Thank you, Terri From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 01:16:08 2011 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas rudolph) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:16:08 -0600 Subject: This Thread Is Closed; [Was: iClout and iTunes Match In-Reply-To: References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com><63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans><87F8B36A-A5B4-42AE-8028-36DC7A4DB09F@nc.rr.com><2CB8C152-BC3D-452F-8B67-E53A5948A6DA@mac-access.net><09F1DECC-230E-402A-B629-5A82E1887EE6@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <68125E19D22443F78B977E413CE26AB0@dougPC> i don't beleive that chris is in the wrong, it is still on topic of i cloud, just slightley in the workings of how cloud based stuff works, and conisidering that icloud will be released, soon, why coudlnt' this be a topic relivent to ios and mac topics? This email may contain personal identifyable information. 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Douglas Rudolph Tel: 1306-565-2056 Cell: 1306-209-2823 Email: doug.cam3 at gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn Haas" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 5:55 PM Subject: Re: This Thread Is Closed; [Was: iClout and iTunes Match > hris: > You never could take no for an answer. :) > > 'carolyn > > On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Lynne, >> >> Not that I am bothered that the thread is closed, but how does it not >> have anything to do with Apple if Apple own iCloud and have just launched >> the service? >> On 12 Jun 2011, at 19:52, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> End of thread please, this has nothing specifically to do with Apple. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Mon Jun 13 01:35:17 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:35:17 -0500 Subject: Upgrading my Mac In-Reply-To: <86F1F7026C374C909615A07F93527C89@ACERLAPTOP> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP><71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com><340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> <76B3139D-0BCF-477C-B7EB-312BE45BE2A0@mac.com> <86F1F7026C374C909615A07F93527C89@ACERLAPTOP> Message-ID: <1175DAA3-3A0D-41F7-98E8-AD653EB6D8B5@charter.net> If you're using a windows keyboard, the windows key, between the control ad alt keys is the command key. Try holding that key and pressing F5 On Jun 12, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Terri S wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Well the mac I bought does not have voiceover apparently. Nothing happens when I use alt F5. > > How do I go about finding out what version of operating system is on it? > Also, how do I go about upgrading it? > Will this cost me money? > If so, about how much? > > Thank you, > > Terri > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Jun 13 02:52:18 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:52:18 -0500 Subject: Upgrading my Mac In-Reply-To: <86F1F7026C374C909615A07F93527C89@ACERLAPTOP> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP><71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com><340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> <76B3139D-0BCF-477C-B7EB-312BE45BE2A0@mac.com> <86F1F7026C374C909615A07F93527C89@ACERLAPTOP> Message-ID: Every mac that has tiger, leopard, snow leopard, and the upcoming lion all have voiceover on them. If it's not activating, and your imac is running 10.4 or later, then you'll need to get a sighted person to go into the preferences, and turn on voiceover. Sometimes it gets stuck, and needs that kind of help to restart, though it shouldn't need it the first time it starts up. You'll need to get someone to check though, because it's possible your imac doesn't have 10.4, perhaps it has 10.3 (panther) or even earlier os versions. If it does, then voiceover won't work. When the imac is running though, a simple about this computer will tell you what version of the os is on it, so anyone who looks at it can tell you. And, just to help out, if you're using a pc keyboard and not an apple one, your command key is the one second from the space bar, (usually called the windows key on pc keyboards) not the one next to the spacebar (usually called the alt key). This can be changed in keyboard preferences, but for starting up voiceover, you may need to try the windows key in combination with the f5 if you're not using an apple keyboard. From cjsims at me.com Mon Jun 13 05:26:28 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:26:28 +1000 Subject: Using facebook on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> Hi tracy. I use the main site with Voceover with no problems. Sometimes things don't quite behave as expected but once you get used to how the page behaves, it works great. The one thing that I will say, is this. When your writing a status message, the easiest way to go is to set your roter to heading navigation, tthen press 2. This will take you tto your news feed. If you then press Vo CMD J, you'll be taken to the edit box for writing statuss. Hope that this helps. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 13/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Mon Jun 13 07:41:17 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 07:41:17 +0100 Subject: i-phone problems or normal behaviour Message-ID: <4df5ae62.41c6e30a.0910.11d0@mx.google.com> how do you go into speaker on the i-phone? can this only be done during calls? i have not found a speaker option in settings on my i-phone 4. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: Sarah Alawami To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Date sent: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:01:47 -0700 >Subject: Re: i-phone problems or normal behaviour >for your first question the iphone at least for me has a very weak card. I can be on the other side of my house and no signal but my computers will receive a signal. for the second issue try going in to and out of speaker once and that should solve the problem. >Sarah Alawami >If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >website: http://music.marrie.org >Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >On Jun 12, 2011, at 1:44 PM, michael weaver wrote: >>> every these a sign of a problem with my i-phone or normal >> behavior? >> the first thing i ask about is that my i-phone beeps every few seconds and i think i get a network lost even if i am just sat in a place where i have certainly got network coverage. >> this seems to happen at any random time and can be annoying when doing things like surfing the web in safari or even just listening to the i-pod. >> does anyone else experience this problem and if so have you found a fix or something for it? >> i am with vodafone if this information helps and i also have a bt homehub wireless router. >> this problem even happens when i am within range of my wireless router. >> the second thing i ask if it is normal is that during phone calls if i have voiceover enabled it both appears to chatter during calls when someone answers like it wants to say the number of the number etc being called. >> also i get the i-phone switch constantly between earpiece of the phone and external speaker which is both annoying for me and also i think has been known to bother the person i am speaking to at the other end. >> this causes the call to be choppy and breaks in the convversation ie part of words and sentences. >> the only work around i have found for this particular problem is to tripple press the home button which i have had to set up to disable voiceover before my call goes through to a caller and then at the end of the call i then have to quickly reactivate voiceover again so i can make sure that my call has ended properly with a double tap at the bottom left corner of the screen. >> hope someone can advise me regarding these problems. >> maybe there isn't really a solution as yet. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > References: <8A09349B-AC1E-43CF-9C31-877AB7FC72FC@gmail.com><63704E327E80409EAA3A19BBC1820ED0@seans><87F8B36A-A5B4-42AE-8028-36DC7A4DB09F@nc.rr.com><2CB8C152-BC3D-452F-8B67-E53A5948A6DA@mac-access.net><09F1DECC-230E-402A-B629-5A82E1887EE6@blueyonder.co.uk> <68125E19D22443F78B977E413CE26AB0@dougPC> Message-ID: Hello it's James, one f the list mods here. Do people not read the subject lines? This thread is now closed . Please respect this. Thank you TC :) James On 13 Jun 2011, at 01:16, douglas rudolph wrote: > i don't beleive that chris is in the wrong, it is still on topic of i cloud, just slightley in the workings of how cloud based stuff works, and conisidering that icloud will be released, soon, why coudlnt' this be a topic relivent to ios and mac topics? > This email may contain personal identifyable information. Copy, relay, redistributions, and or reading of these emails is strictly prohibited, unless you are the intended recipiant of this email, and this intended recipiant only. If this is not the intended recipiant, then you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify sender. > Douglas Rudolph > Tel: 1306-565-2056 > Cell: 1306-209-2823 > Email: doug.cam3 at gmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn Haas" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 5:55 PM > Subject: Re: This Thread Is Closed; [Was: iClout and iTunes Match > > >> hris: >> You never could take no for an answer. :) >> >> 'carolyn >> >> On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Lynne, >>> >>> Not that I am bothered that the thread is closed, but how does it not have anything to do with Apple if Apple own iCloud and have just launched the service? >>> On 12 Jun 2011, at 19:52, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> End of thread please, this has nothing specifically to do with Apple. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 08:15:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 00:15:57 -0700 Subject: i-phone problems or normal behaviour In-Reply-To: <4df5ae62.41c6e30a.0910.11d0@mx.google.com> References: <4df5ae62.41c6e30a.0910.11d0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Just take the phone away from your face when in a call. that's it. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 12, 2011, at 11:41 PM, michael weaver wrote: > how do you go into speaker on the i-phone? > can this only be done during calls? > i have not found a speaker option in settings on my i-phone 4. > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sarah Alawami > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Date sent: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:01:47 -0700 >> Subject: Re: i-phone problems or normal behaviour > >> for your first question the iphone at least for me has a very > weak card. I can be on the other side of my house and no signal but my computers will receive a signal. for the second issue try going in to and out of speaker once and that should solve the problem. >> Sarah Alawami > >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > >> On Jun 12, 2011, at 1:44 PM, michael weaver wrote: > >>>> every these a sign of a problem with my i-phone or normal >>> behavior? >>> the first thing i ask about is that my i-phone beeps every few > seconds and i think i get a network lost even if i am just sat in a place where i have certainly got network coverage. >>> this seems to happen at any random time and can be annoying when > doing things like surfing the web in safari or even just listening to the i-pod. >>> does anyone else experience this problem and if so have you > found a fix or something for it? >>> i am with vodafone if this information helps and i also have a > bt homehub wireless router. >>> this problem even happens when i am within range of my wireless > router. >>> the second thing i ask if it is normal is that during phone > calls if i have voiceover enabled it both appears to chatter during calls when someone answers like it wants to say the number of the number etc being called. >>> also i get the i-phone switch constantly between earpiece of the > phone and external speaker which is both annoying for me and also i think has been known to bother the person i am speaking to at the other end. >>> this causes the call to be choppy and breaks in the > convversation ie part of words and sentences. >>> the only work around i have found for this particular problem is > to tripple press the home button which i have had to set up to disable voiceover before my call goes through to a caller and then at the end of the call i then have to quickly reactivate voiceover again so i can make sure that my call has ended properly with a double tap at the bottom left corner of the screen. >>> hope someone can advise me regarding these problems. >>> maybe there isn't really a solution as yet. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- > >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted > to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted > to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From helianthe at mac-access.net Mon Jun 13 10:15:00 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:15:00 +0200 Subject: i-phone problems or normal behaviour In-Reply-To: <4df5ae62.41c6e30a.0910.11d0@mx.google.com> References: <4df5ae62.41c6e30a.0910.11d0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4DF5D514.10608@mac-access.net> Michael, I know what you mean about your iphone switching from speaker to ear piece and yes, that is rather annoying. The only way I am able to solve this issue is to use the Iphone headset that came with my Iphone 4. Otherwise, you are right, all this causes the conversation to be jumpy and what not. Try this and see if that works out for you. Lyn & Twinny On 13/06/2011 08:41, michael weaver wrote: > how do you go into speaker on the i-phone? > can this only be done during calls? > i have not found a speaker option in settings on my i-phone 4. > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sarah Alawami > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Date sent: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:01:47 -0700 >> Subject: Re: i-phone problems or normal behaviour > >> for your first question the iphone at least for me has a very > weak card. I can be on the other side of my house and no signal but > my computers will receive a signal. for the second issue try going in > to and out of speaker once and that should solve the problem. >> Sarah Alawami > >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to > contact me my info is below. > >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > >> On Jun 12, 2011, at 1:44 PM, michael weaver wrote: > >>>> every these a sign of a problem with my i-phone or normal >>> behavior? >>> the first thing i ask about is that my i-phone beeps every few > seconds and i think i get a network lost even if i am just sat in a > place where i have certainly got network coverage. >>> this seems to happen at any random time and can be annoying when > doing things like surfing the web in safari or even just listening to > the i-pod. >>> does anyone else experience this problem and if so have you > found a fix or something for it? >>> i am with vodafone if this information helps and i also have a > bt homehub wireless router. >>> this problem even happens when i am within range of my wireless > router. >>> the second thing i ask if it is normal is that during phone > calls if i have voiceover enabled it both appears to chatter during > calls when someone answers like it wants to say the number of the > number etc being called. >>> also i get the i-phone switch constantly between earpiece of the > phone and external speaker which is both annoying for me and also i > think has been known to bother the person i am speaking to at the > other end. >>> this causes the call to be choppy and breaks in the > convversation ie part of words and sentences. >>> the only work around i have found for this particular problem is > to tripple press the home button which i have had to set up to disable > voiceover before my call goes through to a caller and then at the end > of the call i then have to quickly reactivate voiceover again so i can > make sure that my call has ended properly with a double tap at the > bottom left corner of the screen. >>> hope someone can advise me regarding these problems. >>> maybe there isn't really a solution as yet. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- > >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted > to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted > to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to > the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Mon Jun 13 10:45:40 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Colin M) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:45:40 +0100 Subject: Using facebook on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> Message-ID: <45B81A55-B820-47FD-88F1-CFC9B963AC9E@virginmedia.com> Hi there! Also get Adium this will let you do Facebook chat! And others! But you must set up a user name in Facebook under your account settings! And under Jabber in Adium is where you'll use that user name! hth Colin On 13 Jun 2011, at 05:26, Christopher Sims wrote: > Hi tracy. I use the main site with Voiceover with no problems. Sometimes things don't quite behave as expected but once you get used to how the page behaves, it works great. The one thing that I will say, is this. When your writing a status message, the easiest way to go is to set your roter to heading navigation, then press 2. This will take you to your news feed. If you then press Vo CMD J, you'll be taken to the edit box for writing status. Hope that this helps. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 13/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Mon Jun 13 11:39:35 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 06:39:35 -0400 Subject: What's the point of Facetab? (was Re: Using facebook on a Mac?) In-Reply-To: <45B81A55-B820-47FD-88F1-CFC9B963AC9E@virginmedia.com> References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> <45B81A55-B820-47FD-88F1-CFC9B963AC9E@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: The subject line says it all. To me, Facetab looks like someone plunking the mobile site into an app and calling it a day. What's the point in using Facetab if it's pretty much identical to the mobile site? So you don't have to punch an address in your browser. I thought the point of looking for worthwhile facebook apps was so we could find something that is easier to navigate than either the desktop or mobile sites. Now, one could argue that one version of the site is better than another. But I thought the point of an app was to provide a different approach than the two sites entirely. Sorry, I'm just not impressed. I'm genuinely curious as to why so many people seem to like this app. Rose On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Colin M wrote: > Hi there! > Also get Adium this will let you do Facebook chat! > And others! > But you must set up a user name in Facebook under your account settings! > And under Jabber in Adium is where you'll use that user name! > hth Colin > On 13 Jun 2011, at 05:26, Christopher Sims wrote: > >> Hi tracy. I use the main site with Voiceover with no problems. Sometimes things don't quite behave as expected but once you get used to how the page behaves, it works great. The one thing that I will say, is this. When your writing a status message, the easiest way to go is to set your roter to heading navigation, then press 2. This will take you to your news feed. If you then press Vo CMD J, you'll be taken to the edit box for writing status. Hope that this helps. >> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >> >> On 13/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >>> Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Jun 13 11:41:57 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:41:57 +0100 Subject: apple mail: warning for windows switchers. Message-ID: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> Morning all, Well in order to spare people the nightmare I've just had (well it happened on Friday) I decided to post this. On the Windows side of things, when one receives an email with an attachment, there seems to be an extraordinarily strong link between the message and attachment. This means that if you open the attachment from withing the message, make changes, save the attachment, an option subsequently appears to resave the message with the edited attachment. Well it seems Apple Mail doesn't do this. If you open an attachment and make changes and then hit save, those changes are not recorded in the mail attachment. How did I discover this? I had to re-grade 190 projects! It was wonderful and I'd recommend anyone who suffers from insomnia to do it. Anyway hope this helps someone, D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Jun 13 11:45:15 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:45:15 +0100 Subject: lost iWork CD Message-ID: Folks, I want to totally reinstall my mac. I haven't done it in about 18 months so tis time. Now the only problem I have is that I can't for the life of me find my iWork CD. Is there any way to copy all of the application programs, settings etc to another drive and then pull them back in later? Is there a way, for example, to backup this application and nothing else? D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 13 12:49:46 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:49:46 +0100 Subject: apple mail: warning for windows switchers. In-Reply-To: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> References: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello Donal If you modify the view option to include the 'Attachments" column, you should be able to avoid this nightmare. Actually when you get used to things you may come to realise that Mail actually more intelligently handles attachments than anything on the Windows platform. Lynne On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:41, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Morning all, Well in order to spare people the nightmare I've just had (well it happened on Friday) I decided to post this. From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 13 12:52:37 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:52:37 +0100 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> Helo Donal On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:45, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: problem I have is that I can't for the life of me find my iWork CD. Is there any way to copy all of the application programs, settings etc to another drive and then pull them back in later? Is there a way, for example, to backup this application and nothing else? it's more involved than just copying the apps I believe. If you look in the context menus and preferences you'll find quite a lot of changes that the installer makes. Lynne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Jun 13 13:49:00 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:49:00 +0100 Subject: apple mail: warning for windows switchers. In-Reply-To: References: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> Hi Lynne, I must beg to differ. I have the attachments column turned on which *indicates* that the message contains an attachment. What I'm referring to is that when one opens an attachment from within a mail message, modifies said attachment and then saves it, the modified attachment is not asociated with the mail message, but the original un-edited one. In my opinion, the fact that windows includes the edited attachment as part of the mail (i.e., performs an update-in-place) is better. However, I sense we are drifting into one of those grey areas you dislike on list; viz. a comparison of Apple mail to another operating system-based equivalent so I'll decline from posting further. Just a note to all to watch this behaviour is all. On 13 Jun 2011, at 12:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Donal > > If you modify the view option to include the 'Attachments" column, you should be able to avoid this nightmare. Actually when you get used to things you may come to realise that Mail actually more intelligently handles attachments than anything on the Windows platform. > > Lynne > > On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:41, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Morning all, > > Well in order to spare people the nightmare I've just had (well it happened on Friday) I decided to post this. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Jun 13 13:49:22 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:49:22 +0100 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> References: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thanks Lynne, that's what I was afraid of. On 13 Jun 2011, at 12:52, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Helo Donal > > On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:45, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > problem I have is that I can't for the life of me find my iWork CD. Is there any way to copy all of the application programs, settings etc to another drive and then pull them back in later? Is there a way, for example, to backup this application and nothing else? > > it's more involved than just copying the apps I believe. If you look in the context menus and preferences you'll find quite a lot of changes that the installer makes. > > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Jun 13 14:11:32 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:11:32 -0500 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you do an archive and install, osx will save all your current information, including applications in a separate folder, and you can go pull things out of tht folder as you need them. In general though, I've found it's rarely necessary to do a complete reinstall of the os itself, might you be able to fix things by nuking configuration files and recreating them from scratch? That almost always fixes most issues you may be having with osx and voiceover. From opensesame at me.com Mon Jun 13 14:13:25 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:13:25 -0400 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <166C9565-32D6-4BD8-85C8-DD3263C67098@me.com> Hello Donal, Assuming you have the bandwidth available, you can download the trial version of iWorks 09 directly from Apple. The trial version is fully functional for 30 days and, if you still have the license key from your licensed copy of iWorks, you can enter it at any time to make this a fully functional version of iWorks. I'm not sure which country you are in so I won't try to send you a link, but I recently had to download and reinstall iworks myself and was able to find it by googling for iworks download apple.com. HTH, Bryan On Jun 13, 2011, at 6:45 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > I want to totally reinstall my mac. I haven't done it in about 18 months so tis time. Now the only problem I have is that I can't for the life of me find my iWork CD. Is there any way to copy all of the application programs, settings etc to another drive and then pull them back in later? Is there a way, for example, to backup this application and nothing else? From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Jun 13 14:56:45 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:56:45 +0100 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: <166C9565-32D6-4BD8-85C8-DD3263C67098@me.com> References: <166C9565-32D6-4BD8-85C8-DD3263C67098@me.com> Message-ID: <21D4C719-B449-4A40-BFF9-4321FBF392AA@computing.dcu.ie> HI there, Thanks very much indeed. Is the license number visible from within the application? D?nal On 13 Jun 2011, at 14:13, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello Donal, > > Assuming you have the bandwidth available, you can download the trial version of iWorks 09 directly from Apple. The trial version is fully functional for 30 days and, if you still have the license key from your licensed copy of iWorks, you can enter it at any time to make this a fully functional version of iWorks. I'm not sure which country you are in so I won't try to send you a link, but I recently had to download and reinstall iworks myself and was able to find it by googling for iworks download apple.com. > > HTH, > Bryan > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 6:45 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> I want to totally reinstall my mac. I haven't done it in about 18 months so tis time. Now the only problem I have is that I can't for the life of me find my iWork CD. Is there any way to copy all of the application programs, settings etc to another drive and then pull them back in later? Is there a way, for example, to backup this application and nothing else? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 15:16:28 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan Cohn) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:16:28 -0400 Subject: apple mail: warning for windows switchers. In-Reply-To: <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> References: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Actually the document was probablly saved in your Library folder under "Mail Attachments". Take a look there. There is a setting in mail preferences to change this location, but I have never tried that. Any Document with an attachment that you have viewed and not deleted the associated e-mail is probably in that folder. JOnathan On 13 June 2011 08:49, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > I must beg to differ. I have the attachments column turned on which > *indicates* that the message contains an attachment. > > What I'm referring to is that when one opens an attachment from within a > mail message, modifies said attachment and then saves it, the modified > attachment is not asociated with the mail message, but the original > un-edited one. In my opinion, the fact that windows includes the edited > attachment as part of the mail (i.e., performs an update-in-place) is > better. However, I sense we are drifting into one of those grey areas you > dislike on list; viz. a comparison of Apple mail to another operating > system-based equivalent so I'll decline from posting further. Just a note > to all to watch this behaviour is all. > On 13 Jun 2011, at 12:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > > > Hello Donal > > > > If you modify the view option to include the 'Attachments" column, you > should be able to avoid this nightmare. Actually when you get used to things > you may come to realise that Mail actually more intelligently handles > attachments than anything on the Windows platform. > > > > Lynne > > > > On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:41, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > Morning all, > > > > Well in order to spare people the nightmare I've just had (well it > happened on Friday) I decided to post this. > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Jun 13 15:20:38 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:20:38 +0100 Subject: apple mail: warning for windows switchers. In-Reply-To: References: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <3B776787-56D5-483E-B37C-6DAE614F1CD7@computing.dcu.ie> Now why didn't I think of that? Would have saved me a fortune in coffee! It's a pain though. Fine if you're an expert user but not for the uninitiated. On 13 Jun 2011, at 15:16, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > Actually the document was probablly saved in your Library folder under > "Mail Attachments". Take a look there. There is a setting in mail > preferences to change this location, but I have never tried that. Any > Document with an attachment that you have viewed and not deleted the > associated e-mail is probably in that folder. > > > JOnathan > > On 13 June 2011 08:49, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi Lynne, >> >> I must beg to differ. I have the attachments column turned on which >> *indicates* that the message contains an attachment. >> >> What I'm referring to is that when one opens an attachment from within a >> mail message, modifies said attachment and then saves it, the modified >> attachment is not asociated with the mail message, but the original >> un-edited one. In my opinion, the fact that windows includes the edited >> attachment as part of the mail (i.e., performs an update-in-place) is >> better. However, I sense we are drifting into one of those grey areas you >> dislike on list; viz. a comparison of Apple mail to another operating >> system-based equivalent so I'll decline from posting further. Just a note >> to all to watch this behaviour is all. >> On 13 Jun 2011, at 12:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Donal >>> >>> If you modify the view option to include the 'Attachments" column, you >> should be able to avoid this nightmare. Actually when you get used to things >> you may come to realise that Mail actually more intelligently handles >> attachments than anything on the Windows platform. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:41, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>> Morning all, >>> >>> Well in order to spare people the nightmare I've just had (well it >> happened on Friday) I decided to post this. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Jun 13 15:33:57 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:33:57 +1000 Subject: Apple TV and audio description on movies Message-ID: <18B5E191-DF99-4586-B96D-F47A77642224@internode.on.net> Hi! Audio description hasn't interested me much up until I received a question from someone who just purchased an Apple TV, they're wondering if they can access audio description on a movie that has it if they rent or buy it and play it through their Apple TV? Thanks! From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Jun 13 15:38:25 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:38:25 +0100 Subject: apple mail: warning for windows switchers. In-Reply-To: <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> References: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <2547A7BF-CEE6-4D96-B359-2D1D3AAD01F4@blueyonder.co.uk> I have to agree, I think this is because Outlook etc uses OLE which just links to the file and does not create a copy to attach. Have you reported this to Apple? Who knows it may get addressed in Lion. On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:49, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > I must beg to differ. I have the attachments column turned on which *indicates* that the message contains an attachment. > > What I'm referring to is that when one opens an attachment from within a mail message, modifies said attachment and then saves it, the modified attachment is not asociated with the mail message, but the original un-edited one. In my opinion, the fact that windows includes the edited attachment as part of the mail (i.e., performs an update-in-place) is better. However, I sense we are drifting into one of those grey areas you dislike on list; viz. a comparison of Apple mail to another operating system-based equivalent so I'll decline from posting further. Just a note to all to watch this behaviour is all. > On 13 Jun 2011, at 12:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Donal >> >> If you modify the view option to include the 'Attachments" column, you should be able to avoid this nightmare. Actually when you get used to things you may come to realise that Mail actually more intelligently handles attachments than anything on the Windows platform. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:41, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> Morning all, >> >> Well in order to spare people the nightmare I've just had (well it happened on Friday) I decided to post this. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Jun 13 15:43:08 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:43:08 +0100 Subject: What's the point of Facetab? (was Re: Using facebook on a Mac?) In-Reply-To: References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> <45B81A55-B820-47FD-88F1-CFC9B963AC9E@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: I like it because unlike the mobile site, you get more then just 10 or so news feeds. On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:39, Rose Morales wrote: > The subject line says it all. To me, Facetab looks like someone plunking the mobile site into an app and calling it a day. What's the point in using Facetab if it's pretty much identical to the mobile site? So you don't have to punch an address in your browser. I thought the point of looking for worthwhile facebook apps was so we could find something that is easier to navigate than either the desktop or mobile sites. Now, one could argue that one version of the site is better than another. But I thought the point of an app was to provide a different approach than the two sites entirely. Sorry, I'm just not impressed. I'm genuinely curious as to why so many people seem to like this app. > Rose > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi there! >> Also get Adium this will let you do Facebook chat! >> And others! >> But you must set up a user name in Facebook under your account settings! >> And under Jabber in Adium is where you'll use that user name! >> hth Colin >> On 13 Jun 2011, at 05:26, Christopher Sims wrote: >> >>> Hi tracy. I use the main site with Voiceover with no problems. Sometimes things don't quite behave as expected but once you get used to how the page behaves, it works great. The one thing that I will say, is this. When your writing a status message, the easiest way to go is to set your roter to heading navigation, then press 2. This will take you to your news feed. If you then press Vo CMD J, you'll be taken to the edit box for writing status. Hope that this helps. >>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>> >>> On 13/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>> >>>> Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Jun 13 16:13:01 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:13:01 +0100 Subject: apple mail: warning for windows switchers. In-Reply-To: <2547A7BF-CEE6-4D96-B359-2D1D3AAD01F4@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> <2547A7BF-CEE6-4D96-B359-2D1D3AAD01F4@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <688F0952-2619-4C94-AC98-B5C5EB1C864E@computing.dcu.ie> Certainly did Chris. On 13 Jun 2011, at 15:38, Chris Moore wrote: > I have to agree, I think this is because Outlook etc uses OLE which just links to the file and does not create a copy to attach. Have you reported this to Apple? Who knows it may get addressed in Lion. > On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:49, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi Lynne, >> >> I must beg to differ. I have the attachments column turned on which *indicates* that the message contains an attachment. >> >> What I'm referring to is that when one opens an attachment from within a mail message, modifies said attachment and then saves it, the modified attachment is not asociated with the mail message, but the original un-edited one. In my opinion, the fact that windows includes the edited attachment as part of the mail (i.e., performs an update-in-place) is better. However, I sense we are drifting into one of those grey areas you dislike on list; viz. a comparison of Apple mail to another operating system-based equivalent so I'll decline from posting further. Just a note to all to watch this behaviour is all. >> On 13 Jun 2011, at 12:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Donal >>> >>> If you modify the view option to include the 'Attachments" column, you should be able to avoid this nightmare. Actually when you get used to things you may come to realise that Mail actually more intelligently handles attachments than anything on the Windows platform. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:41, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>> Morning all, >>> >>> Well in order to spare people the nightmare I've just had (well it happened on Friday) I decided to post this. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From eka at ekanet.net Mon Jun 13 16:20:27 2011 From: eka at ekanet.net (Emrah) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:20:27 +0200 Subject: Unsubscribing from the list Message-ID: <20110613152027.GA31469@willow.kavun.ch> Hey all, I am going to unsubscribe from this mailing list. Although the general community is extremely helpful (thanks a million to Sarah, Esther and all the bright advice of Travis), I keep feeling uneasy each time I read a new rule imposed by the admins. Congratulations for all subscribers for your interest, curiosity and motivation? It is a bit sad to feel that many informative and pretty constructive discussions are killed on this list because it does not fit in the very elaborate guide lines of Lynne and Gordon. If anyone hears about a more open list and is willing to share, you have my Email address. I would be more than happy to subscribe and participate. Good day to all and best regards. Emrah P.s.: I wonder how this Email should have been tagged in the subject line. Email: eka at ekanet.net From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 13 17:47:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:47:32 +0100 Subject: apple mail: warning for windows switchers. In-Reply-To: <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> References: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello Donal On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:49, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: ? What I'm referring to is that when one opens an attachment from within a mail message, modifies said attachment and then saves it, the modified attachment is not asociated with the mail message, but the original un-edited one. In my opinion, the fact that windows includes the edited attachment as part of the mail (i.e., performs an update-in-place) is better. However, I sense we are drifting into one of those grey areas you dislike on list; viz. a comparison of Apple mail to another operating system-based equivalent so I'll decline from posting further. Just a note to all to watch this behaviour is all. Ok, I misunderstood your point; sorry about that. Yes; I think this is better behaviour though. Don't you think it's logical that, since in a lost of cases, textual attachments are part of message in the visual world. this should be the case? I suppose that's why the "Send Windows-friendly attachments" column exists. :) Lynne From opensesame at me.com Mon Jun 13 18:02:31 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:02:31 -0400 Subject: In Defense of the List Owners and Mods [Re: Unsubscribing from the list] In-Reply-To: <20110613152027.GA31469@willow.kavun.ch> References: <20110613152027.GA31469@willow.kavun.ch> Message-ID: <6A36EE87-5A64-42C2-ABED-86F6D3AC5AB5@me.com> Let me be the first to say I am quite happy with the moderation of the Mac-Access list. I've belonged to many discussion lists and forums dating back to the Compuserve days and I personally prefer discussion lists where the rules are clearly defined and enforced, as they are on this list and which I am probably breaking right now. I have never been on a list where I agreed 100 percent with the list Mods, and Mac-Access is no exception, but the few times I've contacted Lynne and Gordon with a posting question, their response has been quick, courteous, clear and complete. Maybe I'm just old and grumpy and the world is passing me by and I need to accept that discussion lists have devolved into Facebook clones where there are no rules and some people are going to post a status update each time they pass wind, but I personally am not interested in surfing through waves of postings in an attempt to find substantive answers or challenging questions that can't be answered in 15 seconds with google or and archive search. Cheers, Bryan On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Emrah wrote: > ...I keep feeling uneasy each time I read a new rule imposed by the admins. > Congratulations for all subscribers for your interest, curiosity and motivation? It is a bit sad to feel that many informative and pretty constructive discussions are > killed on this list because it does not fit in the very elaborate guide lines of Lynne and Gordon. From support at mac-access.net Mon Jun 13 18:11:58 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:11:58 +0100 Subject: To be clear on list rules Message-ID: <5B33CF7C-638C-48D1-A3FD-E0D2600E4A12@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I'm not going to get into a dispute on this. But let me just say this; these "New Rules" are not "New Rules". They are clearly defined in list policy but most people simply don't bother to read it and then they complain when they don't understand why rules are enforced. The only rules we enforce are staying on topic, keeping subject line current and mutual respect. As long as discussion falls within these boundaries then that's fine. Last night I mentioned filter. This is not a "New Rule". It's simply us trying to do what's right by the group and enforce the existing rules. If people won't voluntarily comply, we have little option. After all, to use an outrageously dramatic scenario to illustrate a point. If the laywomen were to allow you to rob a bank, i.e., not enforce the rules, more would do so. Clearly that's not allowed; and the same applies with this group. If you have concerns or comments, feel free to contact us off list and we will be happy to explain our reasons for doing what we do. But simply to slam the phone down is, while your choice, very disappointing. We wrote that list policy document for information purposes; not purely for something to do! Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 18:39:37 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:39:37 -0700 Subject: What's the point of Facetab? (was Re: Using facebook on a Mac?) In-Reply-To: References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> <45B81A55-B820-47FD-88F1-CFC9B963AC9E@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <9DE6CCA5-BF4D-4D90-9FD9-BABDEE1D0588@gmail.com> UYeah I tried it and hated it and got my money back. I can deal wiht th evo crashes on the mobile site. lol! Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 13, 2011, at 3:39 AM, Rose Morales wrote: > The subject line says it all. To me, Facetab looks like someone plunking the mobile site into an app and calling it a day. What's the point in using Facetab if it's pretty much identical to the mobile site? So you don't have to punch an address in your browser. I thought the point of looking for worthwhile facebook apps was so we could find something that is easier to navigate than either the desktop or mobile sites. Now, one could argue that one version of the site is better than another. But I thought the point of an app was to provide a different approach than the two sites entirely. Sorry, I'm just not impressed. I'm genuinely curious as to why so many people seem to like this app. > Rose > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi there! >> Also get Adium this will let you do Facebook chat! >> And others! >> But you must set up a user name in Facebook under your account settings! >> And under Jabber in Adium is where you'll use that user name! >> hth Colin >> On 13 Jun 2011, at 05:26, Christopher Sims wrote: >> >>> Hi tracy. I use the main site with Voiceover with no problems. Sometimes things don't quite behave as expected but once you get used to how the page behaves, it works great. The one thing that I will say, is this. When your writing a status message, the easiest way to go is to set your roter to heading navigation, then press 2. This will take you to your news feed. If you then press Vo CMD J, you'll be taken to the edit box for writing status. Hope that this helps. >>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>> >>> On 13/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>> >>>> Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 18:40:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:40:40 -0700 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> References: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I would do a time machine back up and restore the app and prefs by hand. I did just that and it took time but it was and is doable. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 13, 2011, at 4:52 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Helo Donal > > On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:45, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > problem I have is that I can't for the life of me find my iWork CD. Is there any way to copy all of the application programs, settings etc to another drive and then pull them back in later? Is there a way, for example, to backup this application and nothing else? > > it's more involved than just copying the apps I believe. If you look in the context menus and preferences you'll find quite a lot of changes that the installer makes. > > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 13 19:04:09 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:04:09 +0100 Subject: Candid List Policy Message for those who would like to see it Message-ID: Hello everybody I have just written a candid message regarding list policy which, upon request, I will send to anybody who wants to see it. Please write to if you are one of those. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 13 19:28:54 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:28:54 +0100 Subject: Express Invoice; impressions Message-ID: <57D14F4A-94F5-4555-8685-A4E2B78DE7B9@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Having been involved in the business community for some time now, I have just got around to having a look at the programme which one member, (I think it was Dane) recommended to the group over the weekend. Express Invoice is not, in my opinion, a professional or even an adequate invoice creation tool, for quite a lot of reasons. For the most part, it seems to be accessible, although there are two or three "Unknown" controls which are mainly just lists explaining a function, but they shouldn't be inaccessible if this company claims otherwise which, I don't know whether they do. In terms of power, the software is very poor in some areas. For instance, while it allow recurring invoices it doesn't seem to allow any form of collation. Nor does it allow any form of encryption for the sake of security. Nor does it allow you to pre-define replaces to handle tax payments on orders, and many other things necessary to effectively and efficiently invoice customers. In short, I can do the job batter using existing techniques so, speaking personally, I wouldn't waste money on a product like that. To a large extent it has been ill-thought out and badly implemented, in my opinion. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 21:20:11 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:20:11 -0700 Subject: Sleep with your iPhone? Now you can make it cuddly. Message-ID: <832B9919-C3CF-40B9-9AAE-96EE6A7DBB51@gmail.com> No comments on this one.. It is cute though. Sleep with your iPhone? Now you can make it cuddly. Oh Kickstarter, thank you very much for making this possible. That thing you see in the image above is ?the first mobile plush for iPhone and iPod touch.? It?s a stuffed owl called Swoop (because why not?), and you put your iPhone or iPod touch in a transparent and touch-friendly pouch in its gut, thus making it much more enjoyable to hug and cuddle your Apple mobile device. The Swoop project is said to be ?great for kids? on the product?s official website, but it might appeal to adults, too, since apparently a whole lot of us sleep with our devices anyway. This just means you can keep it even closer, and in fact even rest your face against it so that you never have to worry about missing a late-night email again. Swoop isn?t a reality just yet. The project?s creators still have a ways to go before they meet their modest $7,500 goal. A $25 pledge on Kickstarter qualifies as a pre-order, so if you feel like the only thing your iPhone is missing is slightly softer edges, this might be the project for you. http://onj.me/pj From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 21:23:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:23:50 -0700 Subject: Mac OS X Lion will boot to Safari-only mode, should iPhone and iPad? Message-ID: <8CB4DEC8-5425-4C95-88C4-D3AC3DF64A57@gmail.com> I'm confused by this but I think I'll understand when the lion comes out. It looks like something that could be useful for businesses though. Mac OS X Lion will boot to Safari-only mode, should iPhone and iPad? It sounds like the latest developer preview for Mac OS X Lion will allow you to reboot into a Safari only mode (similar to how a Google ChromeBook is perpetually in Chrome-only mode), as part of the upcoming Find my Mac feature. Should iPad have that option? iPhone and iPod touch? It would be handy if you wanted to give someone easy access to the web but didn?t want them nosing around in your pictures, iMessages, email, and other personal information. It might also be good for educational, business, or even kiosk settings where web access is enough and apps might be too much. Even if it isn?t this, would you want some type of ?guest mode? for iOS? http://onj.me/pk From billd at insightbb.com Mon Jun 13 22:39:50 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:39:50 -0400 Subject: Possibly getting an Imac In-Reply-To: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP> Message-ID: Hello Terry, I remember when I first got my Mac. first of all give yourself time and patients it will pay off and you will be glad you did. Getting on this list is a good start to learning about the Mac. I also found some good information on a web sight called blind cool tech.com one of the first things is the alt key is referred to as the command key. and the windows key is referred to as the option key. Good luck and I am sure you will find a lot of good information here on this list and a lot of good people who are willing to help. Bill Deatherage From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Jun 13 22:40:17 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:40:17 +0100 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: References: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <442518B1-F0CC-4E47-8829-6787CBD9EE6A@computing.dcu.ie> Cheers Sarah, god I can't wait to try that! It is going to be such fun. :-) On 13 Jun 2011, at 18:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I would do a time machine back up and restore the app and prefs by hand. I did just that and it took time but it was and is doable. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 4:52 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Helo Donal >> >> On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:45, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> problem I have is that I can't for the life of me find my iWork CD. Is there any way to copy all of the application programs, settings etc to another drive and then pull them back in later? Is there a way, for example, to backup this application and nothing else? >> >> it's more involved than just copying the apps I believe. If you look in the context menus and preferences you'll find quite a lot of changes that the installer makes. >> >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Jun 13 22:41:13 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:41:13 +1000 Subject: Products from NCH Software was Express Invoice; impressions In-Reply-To: <57D14F4A-94F5-4555-8685-A4E2B78DE7B9@mac-access.net> References: <57D14F4A-94F5-4555-8685-A4E2B78DE7B9@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thank you for that. I'm not a user of this type of software so i certainly wouldn't know whether to recommend it or not but I do use other offerings from NCH Software and all of which serve me well. I particularly like the Prism Video Converter package and the Express Talk VOIP simulation package, the latter is incredibly powerful. On 14/06/2011, at 4:28 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Having been involved in the business community for some time now, I have just got around to having a look at the programme which one member, (I think it was Dane) recommended to the group over the weekend. Express Invoice is not, in my opinion, a professional or even an adequate invoice creation tool, for quite a lot of reasons. For the most part, it seems to be accessible, although there are two or three "Unknown" controls which are mainly just lists explaining a function, but they shouldn't be inaccessible if this company claims otherwise which, I don't know whether they do. > > In terms of power, the software is very poor in some areas. For instance, while it allow recurring invoices it doesn't seem to allow any form of collation. Nor does it allow any form of encryption for the sake of security. Nor does it allow you to pre-define replaces to handle tax payments on orders, and many other things necessary to effectively and efficiently invoice customers. > > In short, I can do the job batter using existing techniques so, speaking personally, I wouldn't waste money on a product like that. To a large extent it has been ill-thought out and badly implemented, in my opinion. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Jun 13 23:09:03 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:09:03 -1000 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: <442518B1-F0CC-4E47-8829-6787CBD9EE6A@computing.dcu.ie> References: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> <442518B1-F0CC-4E47-8829-6787CBD9EE6A@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <73B67C44-CA76-43E5-AC2E-2D1A977CA727@mac.com> Hi D?nal, Another possible thing to try that is less all-encompassing than the archive and install option Travis mentioned: if you have a cloned backup, you can try using Migration Assistant and just select the iWorks apps. I've only tried this when attaching a Leopard cloned backup to a Snow Leopard system, but it worked in that case. I was able to select specific applications from the bootable backup drive. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:40, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Cheers Sarah, god I can't wait to try that! It is going to be such fun. :-) > On 13 Jun 2011, at 18:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I would do a time machine back up and restore the app and prefs by hand. I did just that and it took time but it was and is doable. >> Sarah Alawami >> From lmumford at uga.edu Mon Jun 13 23:16:32 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:16:32 +0000 Subject: In Defense of the List Owners and Mods [Re: Unsubscribing from the list] In-Reply-To: <6A36EE87-5A64-42C2-ABED-86F6D3AC5AB5@me.com> References: <20110613152027.GA31469@willow.kavun.ch> <6A36EE87-5A64-42C2-ABED-86F6D3AC5AB5@me.com> Message-ID: <80111509-0CE4-4D48-B034-E3E237A3B149@uga.edu> Hello all, Just a quick note to say that I agree whole-heartedly with Bryan's sentiments. I remember once when I posted a question about computers on the blind handyman discussion group list, I was gently reminded that computers were off-topic for that list. I joined Mac-access 2 months ago to learn about the Mac, and I am very grateful for the time and effort Lynn and Gordon put into managing this discussion group to ensure we don't digress in all sorts of different directions. Linda Mumford On Jun 13, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Let me be the first to say I am quite happy with the moderation of the Mac-Access list. I've belonged to many discussion lists and forums dating back to the Compuserve days and I personally prefer discussion lists where the rules are clearly defined and enforced, as they are on this list and which I am probably breaking right now. I have never been on a list where I agreed 100 percent with the list Mods, and Mac-Access is no exception, but the few times I've contacted Lynne and Gordon with a posting question, their response has been quick, courteous, clear and complete. Maybe I'm just old and grumpy and the world is passing me by and I need to accept that discussion lists have devolved into Facebook clones where there are no rules and some people are going to post a status update each time they pass wind, but I personally am not interested in surfing through waves of postings in an attempt to find substantive answers or challenging questions that can't be answered in 15 seconds with google or and archive search. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Emrah wrote: >> ...I keep feeling uneasy each time I read a new rule imposed by the admins. >> Congratulations for all subscribers for your interest, curiosity and motivation? It is a bit sad to feel that many informative and pretty constructive discussions are >> killed on this list because it does not fit in the very elaborate guide lines of Lynne and Gordon. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From opensesame at me.com Tue Jun 14 00:39:57 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:39:57 -0400 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: <21D4C719-B449-4A40-BFF9-4321FBF392AA@computing.dcu.ie> References: <166C9565-32D6-4BD8-85C8-DD3263C67098@me.com> <21D4C719-B449-4A40-BFF9-4321FBF392AA@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello Donal -- I was able to find my iWorks 09 license key within the App by doing the following: 1. Launch Pages. 2. Choose "About Pages" from the Pages menu. This opens the About Pages screen. 3. From the top left screen element, VO right and you will hear Version info followed by the words "retail license" and then the license key. I verified that the key does match my key. Honestly, I was surprised that it could be found this easily. Personally, I always try to save new license key information into my encrypted password manager application and copy it from there whenever I need to reinstall an application. HTH, Bryan On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:56 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Thanks very much indeed. Is the license number visible from within the application? From lmumford at uga.edu Tue Jun 14 00:53:47 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 23:53:47 +0000 Subject: apple mail: warning for windows switchers. In-Reply-To: <688F0952-2619-4C94-AC98-B5C5EB1C864E@computing.dcu.ie> References: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> <2547A7BF-CEE6-4D96-B359-2D1D3AAD01F4@blueyonder.co.uk> <688F0952-2619-4C94-AC98-B5C5EB1C864E@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <108638CE-8232-455D-AAC4-3DACE9EA892F@uga.edu> Hello, Can you tell me how to turn on the attachment column so that I will know if my messages contain an attachment? Much thanks, Linda On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:13 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Certainly did Chris. > On 13 Jun 2011, at 15:38, Chris Moore wrote: > >> I have to agree, I think this is because Outlook etc uses OLE which just links to the file and does not create a copy to attach. Have you reported this to Apple? Who knows it may get addressed in Lion. >> On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:49, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Hi Lynne, >>> >>> I must beg to differ. I have the attachments column turned on which *indicates* that the message contains an attachment. >>> >>> What I'm referring to is that when one opens an attachment from within a mail message, modifies said attachment and then saves it, the modified attachment is not asociated with the mail message, but the original un-edited one. In my opinion, the fact that windows includes the edited attachment as part of the mail (i.e., performs an update-in-place) is better. However, I sense we are drifting into one of those grey areas you dislike on list; viz. a comparison of Apple mail to another operating system-based equivalent so I'll decline from posting further. Just a note to all to watch this behaviour is all. >>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 12:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Donal >>>> >>>> If you modify the view option to include the 'Attachments" column, you should be able to avoid this nightmare. Actually when you get used to things you may come to realise that Mail actually more intelligently handles attachments than anything on the Windows platform. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:41, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>> >>>> Morning all, >>>> >>>> Well in order to spare people the nightmare I've just had (well it happened on Friday) I decided to post this. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 02:32:32 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:32:32 -0700 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: <73B67C44-CA76-43E5-AC2E-2D1A977CA727@mac.com> References: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> <442518B1-F0CC-4E47-8829-6787CBD9EE6A@computing.dcu.ie> <73B67C44-CA76-43E5-AC2E-2D1A977CA727@mac.com> Message-ID: <82D25489-772F-4049-B3FD-96306BB85CA8@gmail.com> HmmI did not think to do that as I could not get that to work. it migrated my whole set up which i did not want but ah well. I hope all goes well for you in restoring and good luck. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 13, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi D?nal, > > Another possible thing to try that is less all-encompassing than the archive and install option Travis mentioned: if you have a cloned backup, you can try using Migration Assistant and just select the iWorks apps. I've only tried this when attaching a Leopard cloned backup to a Snow Leopard system, but it worked in that case. I was able to select specific applications from the bootable backup drive. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:40, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Cheers Sarah, god I can't wait to try that! It is going to be such fun. :-) >> On 13 Jun 2011, at 18:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I would do a time machine back up and restore the app and prefs by hand. I did just that and it took time but it was and is doable. >>> Sarah Alawami >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Tue Jun 14 02:47:20 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:47:20 -1000 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: <82D25489-772F-4049-B3FD-96306BB85CA8@gmail.com> References: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> <442518B1-F0CC-4E47-8829-6787CBD9EE6A@computing.dcu.ie> <73B67C44-CA76-43E5-AC2E-2D1A977CA727@mac.com> <82D25489-772F-4049-B3FD-96306BB85CA8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6562385B-3563-4E7D-8694-2099468C56B7@mac.com> Hi Sarah and D?nal, I think that I actually used Setup Assistant to migrate selected files after using Migration Assistant. Here's a web site that I found on a Google Search that seems to describe what I did: http://web.me.com/pondini/AppleTips/Setup.html The title of the page is "Setting-up a new Mac from an old one or its Backups" I'll excerpt some of the start of this page: You can easily set up a new Mac from: ? ?Another Mac ? ?Time Machine backups of another Mac ? ?A "clone" of another Mac (such as those made by CarbonCopyCloner or SuperDuper). ? ?A PC (on Lion only) Usually, the best way to do that is with Setup Assistant, when your new Mac first starts up. The alternative, Migration Assistant, can be used later, but there are some downsides to waiting. If you have Time Machine or "clone" backups of the old Mac on an external HD, it's usually simpler and faster to transfer from them, rather than directly from the old Mac. And to transfer directly, you may have to install/upgrade software on the old Mac. Cheers, Esther On Jun 13, 2011, at 15:32, Sarah Alawami wrote: > HmmI did not think to do that as I could not get that to work. it migrated my whole set up which i did not want but ah well. > > I hope all goes well for you in restoring and good luck. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi D?nal, >> >> Another possible thing to try that is less all-encompassing than the archive and install option Travis mentioned: if you have a cloned backup, you can try using Migration Assistant and just select the iWorks apps. I've only tried this when attaching a Leopard cloned backup to a Snow Leopard system, but it worked in that case. I was able to select specific applications from the bootable backup drive. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:40, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Cheers Sarah, god I can't wait to try that! It is going to be such fun. :-) >>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 18:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I would do a time machine back up and restore the app and prefs by hand. I did just that and it took time but it was and is doable. >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> From krbarry at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 03:00:52 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:00:52 +0800 Subject: list policies? Message-ID: <4df6c0da.6222440a.5f92.ffff8baf@mx.google.com> Since the topic has been raised, here is a request from me. FWIW How about banning the practice of responding and then putting the original post on top. Personally, I can't stand this; it leads to reading a message that goes something like this; Hi xxx On some date, you wrote, insert large portion of e-mail I've already read, then, comment from new poster. Usually I simply delete these as most often it's not worth slogging through the first e-mail yet again. Kevin Kevin Barry If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 03:57:55 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:57:55 -0700 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: <6562385B-3563-4E7D-8694-2099468C56B7@mac.com> References: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> <442518B1-F0CC-4E47-8829-6787CBD9EE6A@computing.dcu.ie> <73B67C44-CA76-43E5-AC2E-2D1A977CA727@mac.com> <82D25489-772F-4049-B3FD-96306BB85CA8@gmail.com> <6562385B-3563-4E7D-8694-2099468C56B7@mac.com> Message-ID: <83F73DF1-4F46-46A4-94F5-5C3655BCED12@gmail.com> Hmm will looka t that at some point but righ tnow i'm headed out the door at this late hour lol! Thanks and once again good luck. A lot of good tips were given here. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jun 13, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah and D?nal, > > I think that I actually used Setup Assistant to migrate selected files after using Migration Assistant. Here's a web site that I found on a Google Search that seems to describe what I did: > http://web.me.com/pondini/AppleTips/Setup.html > The title of the page is "Setting-up a new Mac from an old one or its Backups" > I'll excerpt some of the start of this page: > > You can easily set up a new Mac from: > ? ?Another Mac > ? ?Time Machine backups of another Mac > ? ?A "clone" of another Mac (such as those made by CarbonCopyCloner or SuperDuper). > ? ?A PC (on Lion only) > Usually, the best way to do that is with Setup Assistant, when your new Mac first starts up. The alternative, Migration Assistant, can be used later, but there are some downsides to waiting. > If you have Time Machine or "clone" backups of the old Mac on an external HD, it's usually simpler and faster to transfer from them, rather than directly from the old Mac. And to transfer directly, you may have to install/upgrade software on the old Mac. > > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 15:32, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> HmmI did not think to do that as I could not get that to work. it migrated my whole set up which i did not want but ah well. >> >> I hope all goes well for you in restoring and good luck. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 13, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi D?nal, >>> >>> Another possible thing to try that is less all-encompassing than the archive and install option Travis mentioned: if you have a cloned backup, you can try using Migration Assistant and just select the iWorks apps. I've only tried this when attaching a Leopard cloned backup to a Snow Leopard system, but it worked in that case. I was able to select specific applications from the bootable backup drive. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:40, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Cheers Sarah, god I can't wait to try that! It is going to be such fun. :-) >>>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 18:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would do a time machine back up and restore the app and prefs by hand. I did just that and it took time but it was and is doable. >>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 05:04:12 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 05:04:12 +0100 Subject: apple mail: warning for windows switchers. In-Reply-To: <108638CE-8232-455D-AAC4-3DACE9EA892F@uga.edu> References: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> <2547A7BF-CEE6-4D96-B359-2D1D3AAD01F4@blueyonder.co.uk> <688F0952-2619-4C94-AC98-B5C5EB1C864E@computing.dcu.ie> <108638CE-8232-455D-AAC4-3DACE9EA892F@uga.edu> Message-ID: <2D2478B2-58B1-4613-818B-D4594A3C2563@mac-access.net> Hi Linda, On 14 Jun 2011, at 00:53, Linda Mumford wrote: > Can you tell me how to turn on the attachment column so that I will know if my messages contain an attachment? In the "View" menu, you'll find the "Column" sub menu. The first option in there is "Attachment" if you select this option, you'll see what you want. HTH TC :) James > Hello, > > Can you tell me how to turn on the attachment column so that I will know if my messages contain an attachment? > > Much thanks, > Linda > On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:13 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Certainly did Chris. >> On 13 Jun 2011, at 15:38, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> I have to agree, I think this is because Outlook etc uses OLE which just links to the file and does not create a copy to attach. Have you reported this to Apple? Who knows it may get addressed in Lion. >>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:49, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Lynne, >>>> >>>> I must beg to differ. I have the attachments column turned on which *indicates* that the message contains an attachment. >>>> >>>> What I'm referring to is that when one opens an attachment from within a mail message, modifies said attachment and then saves it, the modified attachment is not asociated with the mail message, but the original un-edited one. In my opinion, the fact that windows includes the edited attachment as part of the mail (i.e., performs an update-in-place) is better. However, I sense we are drifting into one of those grey areas you dislike on list; viz. a comparison of Apple mail to another operating system-based equivalent so I'll decline from posting further. Just a note to all to watch this behaviour is all. >>>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 12:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Donal >>>>> >>>>> If you modify the view option to include the 'Attachments" column, you should be able to avoid this nightmare. Actually when you get used to things you may come to realise that Mail actually more intelligently handles attachments than anything on the Windows platform. >>>>> >>>>> Lynne >>>>> >>>>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:41, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Morning all, >>>>> >>>>> Well in order to spare people the nightmare I've just had (well it happened on Friday) I decided to post this. >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 06:46:40 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:46:40 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome; [Please Do Not Reply On List] Message-ID: <0234882D-71DB-4DC1-8774-6322CCA20521@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Matt Stubs to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 07:05:49 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:05:49 +0100 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: <442518B1-F0CC-4E47-8829-6787CBD9EE6A@computing.dcu.ie> References: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> <442518B1-F0CC-4E47-8829-6787CBD9EE6A@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello Donal On 13 Jun 2011, at 22:40, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: ? Cheers Sarah, god I can't wait to try that! It is going to be such fun. :-) I'm puzzled. If you're going to do a ? restore, you'll end up with the same as you have now so where is the point? Actually, I hope that Apple radically revises Time Machine at some point because at the moment it's bloated as far as I'm concerned, and greatly lacking in functionality. For instance, no archival whatsoever takes place on your backup so therefore, you need to maintain a volume at least the size of your original unless, of course, you preclude lots of things from your backup. For instance, I know somebody who recently changed Macs and hoped to migrate from her ? backup. But, oh no! It wasn't quite that simple. All of her music content had had to be left off the backup because the external volume wasn't big enough to carry it all along with multiple Time Machine backups. So she ended up having to restart all of her music collection again from scratch, having not remembered that it was not in the backup until it was too late and the original Mac and its associated backups were squashed. So, I'd be a bit careful with Time Machine. It is primitive as far as I'm concerned, and nowhere near what a backup utility should really be. I keep meaning to try NTI Shadow 5, but have not yet got around to doing so. Oh; and while I'm on the subject of Time Machine. Anybody running the server version of OSX, beware! Time Machine does not backup some of your crucial Server-related files and, therefore, your serve restore will need work should you ever have to go that route. Migration Assistant doesn't work either in that configuration. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 07:07:48 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:07:48 +0100 Subject: Time Machine In-Reply-To: References: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> <442518B1-F0CC-4E47-8829-6787CBD9EE6A@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <209C7E58-A014-4D09-884B-D4A0EE102582@mac-access.net> Woopse! I just broke the list rules; I didn't change my subject line as I intended too. Sorry about that all, I consider myself suitably chastised. Lynne On 14 Jun 2011, at 07:05, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: I'm puzzled. If you're going to do a ? restore, you'll end up with the same as you have now so where is the point? Actually, I hope that Apple radically revises Time Machine at some point because at the moment it's bloated as far as I'm concerned, and greatly lacking in functionality. For instance, no archival whatsoever takes place on your backup so therefore, you need to maintain a volume at least the size of your original unless, of course, you preclude lots of things from your backup. For instance, I know somebody who recently changed Macs and hoped to migrate from her ? backup. But, oh no! It wasn't quite that simple. All of her music content had had to be left off the backup because the external volume wasn't big enough to carry it all along with multiple Time Machine backups. So she ended up having to restart all of her music collection again from scratch, having not remembered that it was not in the backup until it was too late and the original Mac and its associated backups were squashed. So, I'd be a bit careful with Time Machine. It is primitive as far as I'm concerned, and nowhere near what a backup utility should really be. I keep meaning to try NTI Shadow 5, but have not yet got around to doing so. Oh; and while I'm on the subject of Time Machine. Anybody running the server version of OSX, beware! Time Machine does not backup some of your crucial Server-related files and, therefore, your serve restore will need work should you ever have to go that route. Migration Assistant doesn't work either in that configuration. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 07:16:38 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:16:38 +0100 Subject: CH & Coriolis In-Reply-To: References: <57D14F4A-94F5-4555-8685-A4E2B78DE7B9@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6FDDD313-AD7E-4D24-8579-F44630834241@mac-access.net> Hello Dane On 13 Jun 2011, at 22:41, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? I'm not a user of this type of software so i certainly wouldn't know whether to recommend it or not but I do use other offerings from NCH Software and all of which serve me well. I found it lacking as I said. It does have some nice functions, don't get me wrong. The web access is particularly nice. But it doesn't, for instance, allow you to auto-calculate and add on things like your GST (VAT, as it's known in Europe) to invoices. Nor does it allow quite a lot of other functionality which a business could require. NBow, that said, I'm not sure whether Express Invoice is the "Professional" version of the software. It may be that that version is cut down in some way. But I personally found it lacking as I say and I wouldn't be prepared to buy a package like that with so much missing. The "Reports" aspect of the software is quite nice. But they should have stuck to the full functionality of the Invoicing first I think. Yes, Dane, I understand why you're keen to promote the products of an Australian developer. Only natural, and it's probably true that they produce some good stuff. Just as we try our best to promote who develop iPartition, iDefrag and other things. Actually, I must look to see what's new there. I haven't heard anything since late 2010 and that is unusual. Gordon and I use iDefrag quite a lot and it does much to keep our Macs running like clockwork. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 07:27:29 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:27:29 +0100 Subject: Mac Access Moving On! In-Reply-To: <80111509-0CE4-4D48-B034-E3E237A3B149@uga.edu> References: <20110613152027.GA31469@willow.kavun.ch> <6A36EE87-5A64-42C2-ABED-86F6D3AC5AB5@me.com> <80111509-0CE4-4D48-B034-E3E237A3B149@uga.edu> Message-ID: <4E57C610-33E2-4087-95EF-50332183DC30@mac-access.net> Hello Linda & all On 13 Jun 2011, at 23:16, Linda Mumford wrote: ? Just a quick note to say that I agree whole-heartedly with Bryan's sentiments. We are grateful for your support. I'm trying to be very careful now not to develop this on list into an off-topic discussion. But I wanted to be clear; perhaps I did over-react a little yesterday. Taking a step back might have been wise. But I have prepared a candid response to the comment Emrah made, and would be happy to let anybody interested see it, off list. Mac Access is a name which was chosen for the list some time ago; before iOS really took off. In hindsight, we should have called it MaciosAccess. And there is a chance that we may actually migrate the group to that name at some point. If we do, rest assured that the transition will be smooth. In any event, I will be candid in my response off list. But we will be continuing our efforts to keep this group topical, whilst doing our utmost to preserve a friendly and mutually respectful relationship with everybody who chooses to participate. It is important to us that we retain that aspect of the relationship we have with our members. We respect absolutely each and every one of you, and we hope most genuinely that we can maintain a friendship with you all for a long time to come. Now, let's get back to enjoying using our Macs and other toys whilst learning from one another as we go. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 07:30:05 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:30:05 +0100 Subject: View Options In Mail In-Reply-To: <108638CE-8232-455D-AAC4-3DACE9EA892F@uga.edu> References: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> <2547A7BF-CEE6-4D96-B359-2D1D3AAD01F4@blueyonder.co.uk> <688F0952-2619-4C94-AC98-B5C5EB1C864E@computing.dcu.ie> <108638CE-8232-455D-AAC4-3DACE9EA892F@uga.edu> Message-ID: Hello Linda On 14 Jun 2011, at 00:53, Linda Mumford wrote: ? Can you tell me how to turn on the attachment column so that I will know if my messages contain an attachment? Sure! Open the top menu bar by pressing VoiceOver+M. Cursor right until you hit the "View" menu pull-down, and then move down until you hear (Attachments). Hit enter, and you're done. Somebody else probably explained that better; but I hope that might help. Lynne From support at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 07:52:00 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:52:00 +0100 Subject: The Discussion Of List Policies In-Reply-To: <4df6c0da.6222440a.5f92.ffff8baf@mx.google.com> References: <4df6c0da.6222440a.5f92.ffff8baf@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <67EED048-3123-4FB2-A2A5-132338239264@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Just a quick note which, I hope, will make things easier for everybody in the group. if you wish to discuss list policy with us, that is absolutely fine; we would never be conceited enough to believe that we are always right; and sometimes user interaction of this nature is helpful. However, please do so off the list rather than on it. I cannot stress strongly enough that we are always willing to listen to suggestions and requests, but not on list. You may contact either us directly, , or you may contact one of our extremely able and capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson , or James Austin and we'll be happy to answer your questions and listen to suggestions. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Lynne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Jun 14 08:21:18 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:21:18 +0100 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: References: <166C9565-32D6-4BD8-85C8-DD3263C67098@me.com> <21D4C719-B449-4A40-BFF9-4321FBF392AA@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <31B01AFB-713F-42A2-A6DF-A24D38DFBF23@computing.dcu.ie> HI Brian, interestingly I don't have a license code in the about box. A quick google reveals that Apple abandoned it for retail box sets. Thanks though, D?nal On 14 Jun 2011, at 00:39, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello Donal -- I was able to find my iWorks 09 license key within the App by doing the following: > 1. Launch Pages. > 2. Choose "About Pages" from the Pages menu. This opens the About Pages screen. > 3. From the top left screen element, VO right and you will hear Version info followed by the words "retail license" and then the license key. > > I verified that the key does match my key. Honestly, I was surprised that it could be found this easily. Personally, I always try to save new license key information into my encrypted password manager application and copy it from there whenever I need to reinstall an application. > > HTH, > Bryan > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:56 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> Thanks very much indeed. Is the license number visible from within the application? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Jun 14 08:22:14 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:22:14 +0100 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: References: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> <442518B1-F0CC-4E47-8829-6787CBD9EE6A@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <31B528D6-BCFD-4F46-800C-F9B671C57BA0@computing.dcu.ie> HI Lynne, NO I don't mind restoring iWork individually from Time machine, as it's working fine. It's the rest of SL I want to reinstall. I'd agree with you on the bloated nature of time machine though. D?nal On 14 Jun 2011, at 07:05, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Donal > > On 13 Jun 2011, at 22:40, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > ? Cheers Sarah, god I can't wait to try that! It is going to be such fun. :-) > > I'm puzzled. If you're going to do a ? restore, you'll end up with the same as you have now so where is the point? Actually, I hope that Apple radically revises Time Machine at some point because at the moment it's bloated as far as I'm concerned, and greatly lacking in functionality. For instance, no archival whatsoever takes place on your backup so therefore, you need to maintain a volume at least the size of your original unless, of course, you preclude lots of things from your backup. > > For instance, I know somebody who recently changed Macs and hoped to migrate from her ? backup. But, oh no! It wasn't quite that simple. All of her music content had had to be left off the backup because the external volume wasn't big enough to carry it all along with multiple Time Machine backups. So she ended up having to restart all of her music collection again from scratch, having not remembered that it was not in the backup until it was too late and the original Mac and its associated backups were squashed. > > So, I'd be a bit careful with Time Machine. It is primitive as far as I'm concerned, and nowhere near what a backup utility should really be. I keep meaning to try NTI Shadow 5, but have not yet got around to doing so. > > Oh; and while I'm on the subject of Time Machine. Anybody running the server version of OSX, beware! Time Machine does not backup some of your crucial Server-related files and, therefore, your serve restore will need work should you ever have to go that route. Migration Assistant doesn't work either in that configuration. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Jun 14 08:22:33 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:22:33 +0100 Subject: lost iWork CD In-Reply-To: <6562385B-3563-4E7D-8694-2099468C56B7@mac.com> References: <259A45F9-69FA-4CE8-9A3C-F1A1DEACFECE@mac-access.net> <442518B1-F0CC-4E47-8829-6787CBD9EE6A@computing.dcu.ie> <73B67C44-CA76-43E5-AC2E-2D1A977CA727@mac.com> <82D25489-772F-4049-B3FD-96306BB85CA8@gmail.com> <6562385B-3563-4E7D-8694-2099468C56B7@mac.com> Message-ID: Thanks Esther I'l give that one a whirl. On 14 Jun 2011, at 02:47, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah and D?nal, > > I think that I actually used Setup Assistant to migrate selected files after using Migration Assistant. Here's a web site that I found on a Google Search that seems to describe what I did: > http://web.me.com/pondini/AppleTips/Setup.html > The title of the page is "Setting-up a new Mac from an old one or its Backups" > I'll excerpt some of the start of this page: > > You can easily set up a new Mac from: > ? ?Another Mac > ? ?Time Machine backups of another Mac > ? ?A "clone" of another Mac (such as those made by CarbonCopyCloner or SuperDuper). > ? ?A PC (on Lion only) > Usually, the best way to do that is with Setup Assistant, when your new Mac first starts up. The alternative, Migration Assistant, can be used later, but there are some downsides to waiting. > If you have Time Machine or "clone" backups of the old Mac on an external HD, it's usually simpler and faster to transfer from them, rather than directly from the old Mac. And to transfer directly, you may have to install/upgrade software on the old Mac. > > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 15:32, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> HmmI did not think to do that as I could not get that to work. it migrated my whole set up which i did not want but ah well. >> >> I hope all goes well for you in restoring and good luck. >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jun 13, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi D?nal, >>> >>> Another possible thing to try that is less all-encompassing than the archive and install option Travis mentioned: if you have a cloned backup, you can try using Migration Assistant and just select the iWorks apps. I've only tried this when attaching a Leopard cloned backup to a Snow Leopard system, but it worked in that case. I was able to select specific applications from the bootable backup drive. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:40, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Cheers Sarah, god I can't wait to try that! It is going to be such fun. :-) >>>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 18:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would do a time machine back up and restore the app and prefs by hand. I did just that and it took time but it was and is doable. >>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jun 14 09:14:47 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:14:47 +0100 Subject: list policies? In-Reply-To: <4df6c0da.6222440a.5f92.ffff8baf@mx.google.com> References: <4df6c0da.6222440a.5f92.ffff8baf@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <06A027E6-FF15-4825-9C0C-C5470AC24CDA@blueyonder.co.uk> Yes I have never been a fan of this style, I just prefer to read the message as I view by thread (like most people do on mailing lists) and I think this will become more of a problem when using conversation view within Lion Mail. Chris On 14 Jun 2011, at 03:00, Kevin Barry wrote: > Since the topic has been raised, here is a request from me. FWIW > How about banning the practice of responding and then putting the original post on top. > Personally, I can't stand this; it leads to reading a message that goes something like this; > > Hi xxx > On some date, you wrote, insert large portion of e-mail I've already read, > then, comment from new poster. > Usually I simply delete these as most often it's not worth slogging through the first e-mail yet again. > Kevin > > > > > Kevin Barry > If all appears to be going well; you've obviously overlooked something. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From w9fyi at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 11:41:02 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 03:41:02 -0700 Subject: the kobo app? Message-ID: <0B341485-E633-4236-9B62-CF0DAE0FE740@mac-access.net> Hi all, Has anybody attempted to use the Kobo app lately on the iPhone? I'm fearing the worst that it is now inaccessible. When trying to read books, and/or change reading settings to make a book readable, everything is covered by a tooltip, and voiceover is of no use. Anybody had the same issue? Thanks Justin From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jun 14 12:52:27 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:52:27 +0100 Subject: Vodafone Press Release Message-ID: <28841EE0-585B-44F8-9167-243385826A16@blueyonder.co.uk> > I thought this might be of interest - feel free to pass on (particularly to app developers). > > > VODAFONE FOUNDATION LAUNCHES EU SMART ACCESSIBILITY AWARDS > > ?200k competition for developers to help improve the lives of older people and persons with disabilities across the European Union > > 14th June, 2011. In the week of the first EU Digital Assembly in Brussels, Vodafone Foundation is launching the Smart Accessibility Awards. This is a new competition to promote the development of IT applications designed to improve the lives of people with disabilities and older people to help them become more actively involved in society. > > The programme is supported and co-organized by AGE Platform Europe, the European network of around 160 organisations of and for people aged 50+, and the European Disability Forum (EDF), the NGO that represents the interests of 80 million Europeans with disabilities. > > Launched in Brussels, the competition will award the best smartphone application across four different categories as follows: > > 1. Social participation: This refers to applications which help users to participate actively in today's society and benefit from the facilities that the new technologies can offer, whatever their age, disability and/or capacity (E.g. use the web and social media through mobile devices, contact people using mobile devices to the same extent as everyone, etc). > > 2. Independent living: This refers to applications which help users to be more autonomous and perform daily tasks independently (E.g. using domestic appliances such as washing machines or refrigerators, opening doors safely, etc). > > 3. Mobility: This refers to applications which enable users to move around more freely and safely using the whole range of transport modes. It can also refer to the use of mobile devices to be guided in unknown environments (e.g. using GPS option, etc). > > 4. Wellbeing: This refers to applications which improve the users' health and as well as overall feeling of wellbeing. > > The total prize fund of the ?200k will be split equally between the four winners. The competition is open from 14 June 2011 to 15 October 2011. All entries should be submitted tohttp://developer.vodafone.com/smartaccess2011/ > > All qualifying entries will be evaluated in November by a jury, consisting of representatives from AGE Platform Europe, European Disability Forum and Vodafone Foundation. Twelve finalists will be selected and requested to present their application before the final jury in Brussels in early December at a live final, where the four overall winners will be chosen. > > Vodafone Foundation Director, Andrew Dunnett said ?The Vodafone Foundation is keen to help as many people as possible benefit from new technologies. The Smart Accessibility Awards will help developers create apps that can really make a difference to people?s lives ? we are thrilled to be able to support such an important initiative.? > > Anne-Sophie Parent, AGE Platform Europe Secretary General, said ?We are pleased to be involved in a project that supports our efforts towards building a more inclusive society. Digital inclusion is key to ensuring as many people as possible remain actively involved in their communities and we should make sure every citizen is empowered to do so, whatever their age or capacities. We hope this competition will help reach that goal and also contribute to the ?European Year 2012 for Active Ageing and Solidarity between Generations? where the objective is to increase older people?s active participation in society and promote independent living in old age. ? > > Rodolfo Cattani, EDF Executive Member, said; ?Being part of this competition is very important for us. Communication technologies are vital to making possible the inclusion of persons with disabilities. When the mobile applications are not accessible, it can create new obstacles and can lead to new forms of discrimination. We look forward to seeing accessible apps.? > > For further information about the Smart Accessibility Awards, go towww.developer.vodafone.com/smartaccess2011. You can also keep up-to-date with recent news by following our Tweets with the hashtag #vsa2011 and signing up to the Vodafone developer newsletter > > > If you have any further questions about this competition, please contact the Vodafone Group Media Relations team on 01635 664444. If you have any questions relating to accessibility and Vodafone in the UK, please contact me. > > Thanks > > Kerry Snelling > Accessibility Advisor (Corporate Responsibility) > > Corporate Communications > Vodafone UK > Mobile: 07823 327377 > Email: kerry.snelling at vodafone.com > www.vodafone.co.uk > > > For more information about corporate responsibility at Vodafone UK go towww.vodafone.co.uk/responsibility > > > Vodafone Ltd. Registered Office: Vodafone House, The Connection, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 2FN. Registered in England No 1471587 > > > Help us support WWF's conservation programmes around the world. Give us your old phone and we'll reuse or recycle it and give the proceeds to WWF UK. All you need to do is send it to 'FREEPOST, Vodafone recycling' or drop it in the recycling bin at a Vodafone store. From sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk Tue Jun 14 13:36:47 2011 From: sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk (Sunil Peck) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:36:47 +0100 Subject: Tracking down a podcast about ripping and burning DVDs Message-ID: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A716ED@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Hi, I heard a podcast produced by a visually impaired person demonstrating two software packages, one for ripping and the other for burning DVDs. I'm trying to track the podcast down because I want to be able to transfer some audio described DVDs to my Mac. Trouble is, I've forgotten what both the software packages were and the name of the person who produced the podcast. I've tried to find her website with some very general search terms but I'm getting nowhere. There was a parrot or some other bird chirping away in the background during the podcast. Does anyone know what I'm talking about and the site with the podcast? Thanks in advance, Sunil ________________________________ Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by guarantee (number 520866). Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. Our VAT number is 805156939. Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the views of Scope. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Jun 14 13:41:56 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:41:56 +0100 Subject: Vodafone Press Release In-Reply-To: <28841EE0-585B-44F8-9167-243385826A16@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <28841EE0-585B-44F8-9167-243385826A16@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <04D8F39F-24DF-4AF9-87B5-EE2612931913@computing.dcu.ie> Yep saw this, thanks very much indeed. Have you come across the mv-dev list at all? Some good people on there. On 14 Jun 2011, at 12:52, Chris Moore wrote: >> I thought this might be of interest - feel free to pass on (particularly to app developers). >> >> >> VODAFONE FOUNDATION LAUNCHES EU SMART ACCESSIBILITY AWARDS >> >> ?200k competition for developers to help improve the lives of older people and persons with disabilities across the European Union >> >> 14th June, 2011. In the week of the first EU Digital Assembly in Brussels, Vodafone Foundation is launching the Smart Accessibility Awards. This is a new competition to promote the development of IT applications designed to improve the lives of people with disabilities and older people to help them become more actively involved in society. >> >> The programme is supported and co-organized by AGE Platform Europe, the European network of around 160 organisations of and for people aged 50+, and the European Disability Forum (EDF), the NGO that represents the interests of 80 million Europeans with disabilities. >> >> Launched in Brussels, the competition will award the best smartphone application across four different categories as follows: >> >> 1. Social participation: This refers to applications which help users to participate actively in today's society and benefit from the facilities that the new technologies can offer, whatever their age, disability and/or capacity (E.g. use the web and social media through mobile devices, contact people using mobile devices to the same extent as everyone, etc). >> >> 2. Independent living: This refers to applications which help users to be more autonomous and perform daily tasks independently (E.g. using domestic appliances such as washing machines or refrigerators, opening doors safely, etc). >> >> 3. Mobility: This refers to applications which enable users to move around more freely and safely using the whole range of transport modes. It can also refer to the use of mobile devices to be guided in unknown environments (e.g. using GPS option, etc). >> >> 4. Wellbeing: This refers to applications which improve the users' health and as well as overall feeling of wellbeing. >> >> The total prize fund of the ?200k will be split equally between the four winners. The competition is open from 14 June 2011 to 15 October 2011. All entries should be submitted tohttp://developer.vodafone.com/smartaccess2011/ >> >> All qualifying entries will be evaluated in November by a jury, consisting of representatives from AGE Platform Europe, European Disability Forum and Vodafone Foundation. Twelve finalists will be selected and requested to present their application before the final jury in Brussels in early December at a live final, where the four overall winners will be chosen. >> >> Vodafone Foundation Director, Andrew Dunnett said ?The Vodafone Foundation is keen to help as many people as possible benefit from new technologies. The Smart Accessibility Awards will help developers create apps that can really make a difference to people?s lives ? we are thrilled to be able to support such an important initiative.? >> >> Anne-Sophie Parent, AGE Platform Europe Secretary General, said ?We are pleased to be involved in a project that supports our efforts towards building a more inclusive society. Digital inclusion is key to ensuring as many people as possible remain actively involved in their communities and we should make sure every citizen is empowered to do so, whatever their age or capacities. We hope this competition will help reach that goal and also contribute to the ?European Year 2012 for Active Ageing and Solidarity between Generations? where the objective is to increase older people?s active participation in society and promote independent living in old age. ? >> >> Rodolfo Cattani, EDF Executive Member, said; ?Being part of this competition is very important for us. Communication technologies are vital to making possible the inclusion of persons with disabilities. When the mobile applications are not accessible, it can create new obstacles and can lead to new forms of discrimination. We look forward to seeing accessible apps.? >> >> For further information about the Smart Accessibility Awards, go towww.developer.vodafone.com/smartaccess2011. You can also keep up-to-date with recent news by following our Tweets with the hashtag #vsa2011 and signing up to the Vodafone developer newsletter >> >> >> If you have any further questions about this competition, please contact the Vodafone Group Media Relations team on 01635 664444. If you have any questions relating to accessibility and Vodafone in the UK, please contact me. >> >> Thanks >> >> Kerry Snelling >> Accessibility Advisor (Corporate Responsibility) >> >> Corporate Communications >> Vodafone UK >> Mobile: 07823 327377 >> Email: kerry.snelling at vodafone.com >> www.vodafone.co.uk >> >> >> For more information about corporate responsibility at Vodafone UK go towww.vodafone.co.uk/responsibility >> >> >> Vodafone Ltd. Registered Office: Vodafone House, The Connection, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 2FN. Registered in England No 1471587 >> >> >> Help us support WWF's conservation programmes around the world. Give us your old phone and we'll reuse or recycle it and give the proceeds to WWF UK. All you need to do is send it to 'FREEPOST, Vodafone recycling' or drop it in the recycling bin at a Vodafone store. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 14:27:54 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:27:54 +0100 Subject: Thoughtless Comments Regarding VoiceOver Message-ID: <3DE6FF9A-E27D-40B4-882C-0E3995846F9D@mac-access.net> Hello everybody In the course of a private discussion with a member of this group, it has been pointed out to me that perhaps some of the ill-feeling which a very small number of members have expressed toward me of late may be due to my making comments in messages such as "I don't used VoiceOver", or "I can use this programme visually so it isn't a problem". I do recall making those comments; but it seems that some people have taken them out of context. So let me first and foremost apologise for any offence given; it was not intended. I did not intend to make those comments as in any way patronising, or to remind the reader of their obvious disadvantage. I was merely stating that visually something worked, and that whatever it was we were talking about at the time was a VoiceOver specific issue. I honestly had no idea at all that what I was saying was going to cause such offence. I still don't believe that some of the abuse directed towards me recently was justified; but I do, however, offer an unreserved apology for any offence given by my comments. To be honest I'm quite surprised this subject has come up; it never even occurred to me that what I'd said would be taken in that context. However, I will endeavour to be more sensitive in the future. Lynne From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Jun 14 14:39:32 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:39:32 +0200 Subject: the kobo app? In-Reply-To: <0B341485-E633-4236-9B62-CF0DAE0FE740@mac-access.net> References: <0B341485-E633-4236-9B62-CF0DAE0FE740@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <857A287A-373B-4E5B-AF98-BD5D4ABD8D7B@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Justin, I just got the latest version of Kobo this afternoon and it's working fine for me. I found a Close Tooltip button at the top left of the screen. Could this solve your problem? Alternatively, have you tried turning VoiceOver off then tapping the centre of the screen? That often fixes things for me. Cheers, Anne On Jun 14, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Justin Mann wrote: > Hi all, > Has anybody attempted to use the Kobo app lately on the iPhone? I'm fearing the worst that it is now inaccessible. When trying to read books, and/or change reading settings to make a book readable, everything is covered by a tooltip, and voiceover is of no use. Anybody had the same issue? > Thanks > Justin > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Tue Jun 14 14:53:21 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Colin M) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:53:21 +0100 Subject: Tracking down a podcast about ripping and burning DVDs In-Reply-To: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A716ED@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A716ED@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: <8FEA78BE-483B-407E-86EE-8D13DABB1C72@virginmedia.com> Hi There! Is this who your looking for! The [parrot] was a great clue! So here's the link! http://gwenna.podbean.com/2010/06/03/dvd-remaster/ On 14 Jun 2011, at 13:36, Sunil Peck wrote: > Hi, > > I heard a podcast produced by a visually impaired person demonstrating two software packages, one for ripping and the other for burning DVDs. > > I'm trying to track the podcast down because I want to be able to transfer some audio described DVDs to my Mac. > > Trouble is, I've forgotten what both the software packages were and the name of the person who produced the podcast. I've tried to find her website with some very general search terms but I'm getting nowhere. > > There was a parrot or some other bird chirping away in the background during the podcast. > > Does anyone know what I'm talking about and the site with the podcast? > > Thanks in advance, > Sunil > > > > > ________________________________ > Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by > guarantee (number 520866). > Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. > Our VAT number is 805156939. > > > Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk > > This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential > and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been > addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this > message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are > required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the > sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, > or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use > of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the > intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with > it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the > views of Scope. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 15:08:13 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:08:13 +0100 Subject: Prism Video Converter Message-ID: <0403F043-A7AB-49C5-8FE1-576ED8D6B1CF@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Does anybody on list happen to use this programme now? I'm wondering whether it might solve a problem for us. We are working on a video project related to my business and we want the video converted from MPEG which it is downloading from with the camcorder, into Quicktime Movie format which we can add to our DVD project. It is possible for me to edit the video content, but not to save directly into QuickTime. Lyne From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 14 15:21:09 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:21:09 +1000 Subject: Prism Video Converter In-Reply-To: <0403F043-A7AB-49C5-8FE1-576ED8D6B1CF@mac-access.net> References: <0403F043-A7AB-49C5-8FE1-576ED8D6B1CF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Prism will convert this file format for you no problem but bare in mind that Prism is not an editor just a converter. On 15/06/2011, at 12:08 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Does anybody on list happen to use this programme now? I'm wondering whether it might solve a problem for us. > > We are working on a video project related to my business and we want the video converted from MPEG which it is downloading from with the camcorder, into Quicktime Movie format which we can add to our DVD project. > > It is possible for me to edit the video content, but not to save directly into QuickTime. > > Lyne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 15:53:17 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:53:17 +0100 Subject: Prism Video Converter In-Reply-To: References: <0403F043-A7AB-49C5-8FE1-576ED8D6B1CF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <91666EFE-88A2-4AC6-BB31-B93F53CE207C@mac-access.net> Hello Dane On 14 Jun 2011, at 15:21, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? Prism will convert this file format for you no problem but bare in mind that Prism is not an editor just a converter. I already have an editor so that's no problem. I just don't want to waste time on software which maybe e isn't the best for the job. So I guess it's either Prism, or else Movi Video Convertor for which I'd forgotten that we already have a licence. If, that is, it will do QT. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 15:53:47 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:53:47 +0100 Subject: Prism Video Converter In-Reply-To: <91666EFE-88A2-4AC6-BB31-B93F53CE207C@mac-access.net> References: <0403F043-A7AB-49C5-8FE1-576ED8D6B1CF@mac-access.net> <91666EFE-88A2-4AC6-BB31-B93F53CE207C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3D1169FD-4466-4A14-9D38-8C45ECF11129@mac-access.net> oopdr@ Forgot toe change accounts. Lynne On 14 Jun 2011, at 15:53, Gordon Smith wrote: Hello Dane On 14 Jun 2011, at 15:21, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? Prism will convert this file format for you no problem but bare in mind that Prism is not an editor just a converter. I already have an editor so that's no problem. I just don't want to waste time on software which maybe e isn't the best for the job. So I guess it's either Prism, or else Movi Video Convertor for which I'd forgotten that we already have a licence. If, that is, it will do QT. Lynne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 14 16:05:40 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 01:05:40 +1000 Subject: Prism Video Converter In-Reply-To: <91666EFE-88A2-4AC6-BB31-B93F53CE207C@mac-access.net> References: <0403F043-A7AB-49C5-8FE1-576ED8D6B1CF@mac-access.net> <91666EFE-88A2-4AC6-BB31-B93F53CE207C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4DF778C4.7040106@internode.on.net> Prism certainly does, I didn't bother upgrading Movavi to the latest version, anyway download Prism, you get a fully functional 30 day copy. On 15/06/2011 12:53 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > On 14 Jun 2011, at 15:21, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > ? Prism will convert this file format for you no problem but bare in mind that Prism is not an editor just a converter. > > I already have an editor so that's no problem. I just don't want to waste time on software which maybe e isn't the best for the job. So I guess it's either Prism, or else Movi Video Convertor for which I'd forgotten that we already have a licence. If, that is, it will do QT. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jun 14 16:16:55 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:16:55 +0100 Subject: Prism Video Converter In-Reply-To: <0403F043-A7AB-49C5-8FE1-576ED8D6B1CF@mac-access.net> References: <0403F043-A7AB-49C5-8FE1-576ED8D6B1CF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Lynne, What does this have to do with accessibility? But since you ask, I would use iMovie and iDVD Chris On 14 Jun 2011, at 15:08, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Does anybody on list happen to use this programme now? I'm wondering whether it might solve a problem for us. > > We are working on a video project related to my business and we want the video converted from MPEG which it is downloading from with the camcorder, into Quicktime Movie format which we can add to our DVD project. > > It is possible for me to edit the video content, but not to save directly into QuickTime. > > Lyne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 14 16:52:56 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 01:52:56 +1000 Subject: Prism Video Converter In-Reply-To: References: <0403F043-A7AB-49C5-8FE1-576ED8D6B1CF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4DF783D8.5050901@internode.on.net> Well if one had read the various messages on this list pertaining to this softwar - Prism Video Converter - then one would know that Prism is an extremely accessible software application whose purpose is to convert from one video format to another, you can also use Prism to extract audio from your video to various audio formats and the great thing is that the software is accessible across all platforms so you may have seen Prism pop up on other lists and forums, I first heard about it on another popular global mailing list which discusses audio and video.. On 15/06/2011 1:16 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Lynne, > > What does this have to do with accessibility? > > But since you ask, I would use iMovie and iDVD > > Chris > On 14 Jun 2011, at 15:08, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> Does anybody on list happen to use this programme now? I'm wondering whether it might solve a problem for us. >> >> We are working on a video project related to my business and we want the video converted from MPEG which it is downloading from with the camcorder, into Quicktime Movie format which we can add to our DVD project. >> >> It is possible for me to edit the video content, but not to save directly into QuickTime. >> >> Lyne >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 17:24:33 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:24:33 +0100 Subject: Prism Video Converter In-Reply-To: <4DF778C4.7040106@internode.on.net> References: <0403F043-A7AB-49C5-8FE1-576ED8D6B1CF@mac-access.net> <91666EFE-88A2-4AC6-BB31-B93F53CE207C@mac-access.net> <4DF778C4.7040106@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <7EC7950F-7615-4EB1-AD4A-D5E3CECC1A6B@mac-access.net> Hello Dane On 14 Jun 2011, at 16:05, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? Prism certainly does, I didn't bother upgrading Movavi to the latest version, anyway download Prism, you get a fully functional 30 day copy. ?I don't think Prism rips DVDs does it? I can't remember whether Movi does actually but that's not an issue for us as we have a much better ripper anyway. Actually, I'm just wondering now wheher we need Prism it never occurred to me until now that DVD Remaster Pro handles conversions I believe and that programme is slick and has a very nice interface. So maybe I'll try that now that I've actually thought about it. Lynne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Jun 14 17:26:24 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:26:24 +0100 Subject: anyone mind testing a site? Message-ID: <85C5495D-C73B-4588-9853-87A1992FC8FD@computing.dcu.ie> Hi all, There's a Manchester United online news service I use which, until recently, worked beautifully with VO. However, in recent weeks (since, in fact they updated VBulletin) VO doesn't play nicely with it. When viewed on that other os with that other screenreader, I can see numbered links in the vicinity of each news item. However with Safari on my mac all i see is a link saying "show thread .php". Anyone mind verifying this before I annoy Apple Accessibility yet again? I've been doing that rather a lot lately come to think of it. VO crashes nearly as much as Windows! thanks much, D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 17:28:18 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:28:18 +0100 Subject: Prism Video Converter In-Reply-To: References: <0403F043-A7AB-49C5-8FE1-576ED8D6B1CF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Chris On 14 Jun 2011, at 16:16, Chris Moore wrote: ? What does this have to do with accessibility? Chris, please don't be difficult. :) if you read the list policy document you will find that the guidelines clearly state that, whilst accessibility is the primary topic it isn't the only one. Anything Apple is ok. hat anything Apple is up for discussion. ? But since you ask, I would use iMovie and iDVD Possibly that's another option. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jun 14 17:31:47 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:31:47 +0100 Subject: anyone mind testing a site? In-Reply-To: <85C5495D-C73B-4588-9853-87A1992FC8FD@computing.dcu.ie> References: <85C5495D-C73B-4588-9853-87A1992FC8FD@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <51E15835-0F81-42CA-9AFF-45CF11810411@mac-access.net> Hello Donal On 14 Jun 2011, at 17:26, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: ? There's a Manchester United online news service I use which, until recently, worked beautifully with VO. However, in recent weeks (since, in fact they updated VBulletin) VO doesn't play nicely with it. I would be happy to test for you if it would help. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 17:34:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:34:18 -0700 Subject: Tracking down a podcast about ripping and burning DVDs In-Reply-To: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A716ED@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A716ED@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: <78D3C981-D765-4AA6-818F-CA7B522B9CBA@gmail.com> Yeah http://gwenna.podbean.com Take care.On Jun 14, 2011, at 5:36 AM, Sunil Peck wrote: > Hi, > > I heard a podcast produced by a visually impaired person demonstrating two software packages, one for ripping and the other for burning DVDs. > > I'm trying to track the podcast down because I want to be able to transfer some audio described DVDs to my Mac. > > Trouble is, I've forgotten what both the software packages were and the name of the person who produced the podcast. I've tried to find her website with some very general search terms but I'm getting nowhere. > > There was a parrot or some other bird chirping away in the background during the podcast. > > Does anyone know what I'm talking about and the site with the podcast? > > Thanks in advance, > Sunil > > > > > ________________________________ > Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by > guarantee (number 520866). > Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. > Our VAT number is 805156939. > > > Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk > > This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential > and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been > addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. 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If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 14 17:37:06 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 02:37:06 +1000 Subject: Prism Video Converter In-Reply-To: <7EC7950F-7615-4EB1-AD4A-D5E3CECC1A6B@mac-access.net> References: <0403F043-A7AB-49C5-8FE1-576ED8D6B1CF@mac-access.net> <91666EFE-88A2-4AC6-BB31-B93F53CE207C@mac-access.net> <4DF778C4.7040106@internode.on.net> <7EC7950F-7615-4EB1-AD4A-D5E3CECC1A6B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9C9421E1-B32B-4154-AB4B-7BA0D07AB122@internode.on.net> As I said Prism is just a video format converter, nothing more and nothing less. On 15/06/2011, at 2:24 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > On 14 Jun 2011, at 16:05, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > ? Prism certainly does, I didn't bother upgrading Movavi to the latest version, anyway download Prism, you get a fully functional 30 day copy. > > ?I don't think Prism rips DVDs does it? I can't remember whether Movi does actually but that's not an issue for us as we have a much better ripper anyway. Actually, I'm just wondering now wheher we need Prism it never occurred to me until now that DVD Remaster Pro handles conversions I believe and that programme is slick and has a very nice interface. So maybe I'll try that now that I've actually thought about it. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Jun 14 17:37:14 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:37:14 +0100 Subject: anyone mind testing a site? In-Reply-To: <51E15835-0F81-42CA-9AFF-45CF11810411@mac-access.net> References: <85C5495D-C73B-4588-9853-87A1992FC8FD@computing.dcu.ie> <51E15835-0F81-42CA-9AFF-45CF11810411@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <488F780F-EA09-410D-9314-51274C0629D3@computing.dcu.ie> Actually Lynne the working optics would be excellent. The url is: http://www.rednews.co.uk and what you're looking for are numbered links, contained in square brackets, above (or adjacent to) each story. Cheers, D?nal On 14 Jun 2011, at 17:31, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Donal > > On 14 Jun 2011, at 17:26, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > ? There's a Manchester United online news service I use which, until recently, worked beautifully with VO. However, in recent weeks (since, in fact they updated VBulletin) VO doesn't play nicely with it. > I would be happy to test for you if it would help. Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jun 14 18:05:34 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:05:34 +0100 Subject: anyone mind testing a site? In-Reply-To: <85C5495D-C73B-4588-9853-87A1992FC8FD@computing.dcu.ie> References: <85C5495D-C73B-4588-9853-87A1992FC8FD@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <15EF4329-3B1C-4D23-B637-5E5497039014@blueyonder.co.uk> I am so glad you pointed this site out. This is yet another example where Safari seems to fail to recognise headers within the rotor, but if you look at the source code you will see there are many H3 tags. I will bang this off to Apple too. Chris On 14 Jun 2011, at 17:26, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi all, > > There's a Manchester United online news service I use which, until recently, worked beautifully with VO. However, in recent weeks (since, in fact they updated VBulletin) VO doesn't play nicely with it. > > When viewed on that other os with that other screenreader, I can see numbered links in the vicinity of each news item. However with Safari on my mac all i see is a link saying "show thread .php". Anyone mind verifying this before I annoy Apple Accessibility yet again? I've been doing that rather a lot lately come to think of it. VO crashes nearly as much as Windows! > > thanks much, > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Jun 14 18:09:18 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:09:18 +0100 Subject: anyone mind testing a site? In-Reply-To: <15EF4329-3B1C-4D23-B637-5E5497039014@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <85C5495D-C73B-4588-9853-87A1992FC8FD@computing.dcu.ie> <15EF4329-3B1C-4D23-B637-5E5497039014@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: yes exactly Chris. Also when using IE and Jaws, there are numbered links adjacent to those posts which Safari misses completely. On 14 Jun 2011, at 18:05, Chris Moore wrote: > I am so glad you pointed this site out. This is yet another example where Safari seems to fail to recognise headers within the rotor, but if you look at the source code you will see there are many H3 tags. > > I will bang this off to Apple too. > > Chris > On 14 Jun 2011, at 17:26, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> There's a Manchester United online news service I use which, until recently, worked beautifully with VO. However, in recent weeks (since, in fact they updated VBulletin) VO doesn't play nicely with it. >> >> When viewed on that other os with that other screenreader, I can see numbered links in the vicinity of each news item. However with Safari on my mac all i see is a link saying "show thread .php". Anyone mind verifying this before I annoy Apple Accessibility yet again? I've been doing that rather a lot lately come to think of it. VO crashes nearly as much as Windows! >> >> thanks much, >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 18:25:09 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:25:09 -0700 Subject: Install Apple Updates From Terminal Message-ID: <93ECDC73-660B-49FD-AF27-112D23018353@gmail.com> I didn't get this to work as the terminal gave me errors about missing identifier pkg files but here ya ya go for those that want to do this. Install Apple Updates From Terminal Hello Again, Sorry its been a long time since the last post, so I am going to start with an interesting one. I quite enjoying digging out and finding new command line updates to run and use. Today?s command line post will allow you to download and install software updates from Terminal or the command line. Its great for those scripts you may be building and want to add that extra functionality to them. To run this command line, first open up Terminal from Applications > Utilities. Within Terminal type the following: sudo softwareupdate -i -v -a This script will run and do the following: First it will invoke the software update tool, it will then install any available updates using the -i modifier, it will also install all of them using the -a modifier. Finally the -v modifier will tell you what is happening. In short, look, download, install. If you want to use this tool but you don?t want to install anything. You can let the tool list any downloads available to you. To do this type the following: sudo softwareupdate -l The, -l, modifier will list any updates. It may take a while for anything to appear, its best to let it run. You will get something similar to the image below if any updates are available. A simple and useful command, that is quite interesting. If you want more information on this tool, type the following into Terminal. man softwareupdate From lavendar at bell.net Tue Jun 14 19:08:00 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:08:00 -0400 Subject: i tunes library question Message-ID: Hi, I have a question about adding music to my i tunes library. I know that generally, you import files or folders through the choice in i tunes. Alternatively, though, could you just manually cut or copy/paste the new music into the appropriate folder under your home folder if you know where to put it, or would this confuse i tunes? Like some, I have a huge music library, and it's always getting bigger. I'm always afraid of getting duplicates, too if I import with itunes, but if that's the only way, I can live with it and use dup zap or something like that, I guess, to kill the duplicates after.. Thanks, Cait From lmumford at uga.edu Wed Jun 15 01:52:01 2011 From: lmumford at uga.edu (Linda Mumford) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:52:01 +0000 Subject: apple mail: warning for windows switchers. In-Reply-To: <2D2478B2-58B1-4613-818B-D4594A3C2563@mac-access.net> References: <91130342-B8AB-4B58-BD98-85E876B913A1@computing.dcu.ie> <3CBC6C43-EA4F-46A2-A6A1-BB81B8196762@computing.dcu.ie> <2547A7BF-CEE6-4D96-B359-2D1D3AAD01F4@blueyonder.co.uk> <688F0952-2619-4C94-AC98-B5C5EB1C864E@computing.dcu.ie> <108638CE-8232-455D-AAC4-3DACE9EA892F@uga.edu> <2D2478B2-58B1-4613-818B-D4594A3C2563@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9945231A-55F1-4920-8C69-9205F90E7D77@uga.edu> Hi James, Thanks a lot! Linda On Jun 14, 2011, at 12:04 AM, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Linda, > On 14 Jun 2011, at 00:53, Linda Mumford wrote: >> Can you tell me how to turn on the attachment column so that I will know if my messages contain an attachment? > In the "View" menu, you'll find the "Column" sub menu. The first option in there is "Attachment" if you select this option, you'll see what you want. > HTH > TC :) > James >> Hello, >> >> Can you tell me how to turn on the attachment column so that I will know if my messages contain an attachment? >> >> Much thanks, >> Linda >> On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:13 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Certainly did Chris. >>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 15:38, Chris Moore wrote: >>> >>>> I have to agree, I think this is because Outlook etc uses OLE which just links to the file and does not create a copy to attach. Have you reported this to Apple? Who knows it may get addressed in Lion. >>>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 13:49, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Lynne, >>>>> >>>>> I must beg to differ. I have the attachments column turned on which *indicates* that the message contains an attachment. >>>>> >>>>> What I'm referring to is that when one opens an attachment from within a mail message, modifies said attachment and then saves it, the modified attachment is not asociated with the mail message, but the original un-edited one. In my opinion, the fact that windows includes the edited attachment as part of the mail (i.e., performs an update-in-place) is better. However, I sense we are drifting into one of those grey areas you dislike on list; viz. a comparison of Apple mail to another operating system-based equivalent so I'll decline from posting further. Just a note to all to watch this behaviour is all. >>>>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 12:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Donal >>>>>> >>>>>> If you modify the view option to include the 'Attachments" column, you should be able to avoid this nightmare. Actually when you get used to things you may come to realise that Mail actually more intelligently handles attachments than anything on the Windows platform. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lynne >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Jun 2011, at 11:41, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Morning all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Well in order to spare people the nightmare I've just had (well it happened on Friday) I decided to post this. >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 03:20:36 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:20:36 -0700 Subject: ibooks and word wrapping Message-ID: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> Hello. trying to read an epub book in ibooks and the darned thing word wraps. Is` there a way to stop that? I don't have my phone at the moment so can't follow instructions but when I get my phone back, will be sure to watch this thread. Thanks and hope I can some how turn word wrapping off. Googling did not help a bit. I have the font size set as low as it will go to fit more on the page so that should not be an issue. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From n0oxy at charter.net Wed Jun 15 05:34:27 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:34:27 -0500 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 06:12:19 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:12:19 +0100 Subject: spotlight not working? Message-ID: hi all for some reason now on snowleopard when i press command space it isn'tw orking to go to spotlight. is this normal? i don't have any other keyboard inputs From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jun 15 06:32:31 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:32:31 -0500 Subject: i tunes library question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On your disk, you can place your files anywhere you like, and that includes itunes folders. The problem is that if you do so, Itunes will not know about the file, and it won't get added to the xml database Itunes uses to keep track of it's files unless you open the file in itunes first. From candiestiles at me.com Wed Jun 15 06:37:15 2011 From: candiestiles at me.com (Candie Stiles) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:37:15 -0700 Subject: spotlight not working? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D65B85A-F234-4EAA-8D10-70764B88BE7E@me.com> Have you restarted the computer lately? I've noticed that after a while of leaving the computer on some of the commands aren't always very reliable and going to the spotlight is one of them. Candie On Jun 14, 2011, at 10:12 PM, william lomas wrote: > hi all for some reason now on snowleopard when i press command space it isn'tw orking to go to spotlight. is this normal? > i don't have any other keyboard inputs > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jun 15 06:37:52 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:37:52 -0500 Subject: spotlight not working? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <374C3467-7EF9-4737-80E9-E630E16E172A@softcon.com> Could be you disabled the hotkey somehow, I deliberately turned it off on my machie, but it got reenabled a few times by accident. All you need to do is go into the keyboard portion of vo preferences, and check the box for using command-space for activating spotlight. I personally just use vo-m 3 times to get to the spotlight search box. From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 06:48:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:48:06 -0700 Subject: i tunes library question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <932EF5AB-FB99-4E32-B09F-D963EA857583@gmail.com> and you can have it not copy music to folders. do this in prefs/advanced I think. On Jun 14, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > On your disk, you can place your files anywhere you like, and that includes itunes folders. > The problem is that if you do so, Itunes will not know about the file, and it won't get added to the xml database Itunes uses to keep track of it's files unless you open the file in itunes first. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 06:49:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:49:56 -0700 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> Message-ID: <13CDE5C1-DEDF-4CBF-8F96-55CE5895B79E@gmail.com> Yeah 649 bucks or something. Yeah. Ouch! cool, but not for me. I'm actually surprised the carriers are allowing this given the way the us carriers do things but that's for another list. It is good though that we are seeing this. On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. > http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Wed Jun 15 08:17:20 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:17:20 +0100 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> Message-ID: <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> Hi all. First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are finally! But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone 4 locked to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. Just my thoughts. Chat soon. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. > http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From krbarry at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 08:26:09 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:26:09 +0800 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> It's not a rip off. That is what an IPhone costs. If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a subsidized price and you will more than pay it back in fees. The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly extortion as a subsidized phone. Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without informing them you have an IPhone. Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their unique frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is what wifi is for. And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are virtually unknown here. Kevin At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: >Hi all. >First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are finally! >But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone 4 locked >to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. >Just my thoughts. >Chat soon. > > >Chris Hallsworth >Sent from Thunderbird > >On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the >>on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. >>http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM >><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >>To reply to this post, please address your message to >>mac-access at mac-access.net >> >>You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >>posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >>The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>virus and worm-free! >> >>Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>visiting the list website at: >> ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From cjligon at msn.com Wed Jun 15 08:34:43 2011 From: cjligon at msn.com (Cornell Ligon) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 03:34:43 -0400 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com>, <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net>, <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com>, <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: In my case, and I do want an IPhone, it is a rip off. I currently don't have a data plan with TMobile and use a basic phone. I want the IPohne, because of it's accessibility for basic calls. I would then have to pay for a data plan if I want to use other features, wouldn't I? I think I'[ll wait until the merger of AT&T and TMobile officially goes through and see if TMobile will then offer it. Right now, TMobile has no accessible phones for basic calling - they offer many Android modles, but once again, a data plan is required. I wish Apple sold a basic IPHone for basic cellular use w/o data features. Just my thoughts! Best Regards, Cornell > Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:26:09 +0800 > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > From: krbarry at gmail.com > Subject: Re: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States > > It's not a rip off. > That is what an IPhone costs. > If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a subsidized > price and you will more than pay it back in fees. > The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, > phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly > extortion as a subsidized phone. > Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. > It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without informing > them you have an IPhone. > Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their unique > frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. > I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is what wifi is for. > And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! > Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are virtually > unknown here. > Kevin > > At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: > >Hi all. > >First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are finally! > >But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone 4 locked > >to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. > >Just my thoughts. > >Chat soon. > > > > > >Chris Hallsworth > >Sent from Thunderbird > > > >On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >>Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the > >>on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. > >>http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM > >><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >>To reply to this post, please address your message to > >>mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >>You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > >>posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > >> > >> > >>The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > >>virus and worm-free! > >> > >>Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > >>visiting the list website at: > >> > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > >To reply to this post, please address your message to > >mac-access at mac-access.net > > > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > >virus and worm-free! > > > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > >visiting the list website at: > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Wed Jun 15 08:41:06 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:41:06 +0100 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4DF86212.6080603@googlemail.com> Hi all. Oh, sorry for the ignorance. I was comparing an unlocked iPhone to an unlocked Nokia phone. What you said makes perfect sense now. Chat soon. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird On 15/06/2011 08:26, Kevin Barry wrote: > It's not a rip off. > That is what an IPhone costs. > If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a subsidized price > and you will more than pay it back in fees. > The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, phone on > a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly extortion as a > subsidized phone. > Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. > It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without informing > them you have an IPhone. > Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their unique > frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. > I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is what wifi > is for. > And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! > Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are virtually > unknown here. > Kevin > > At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: >> Hi all. >> First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are finally! But >> what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone 4 locked to a >> network or buy one unlocked second hand. >> Just my thoughts. >> Chat soon. >> >> >> Chris Hallsworth >> Sent from Thunderbird >> >> On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the >>> on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. >>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Wed Jun 15 08:43:43 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 03:43:43 -0400 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com>, <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net>, <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com>, <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <3361DF39-88F3-4BB1-89CE-F5BA9E6E62C7@chicksdigmacs.net> I'm a t-mobile customer. I use a jailbroken, unlocked iPhone on their network. Because the iPhone is not supported on t-mobile, you're not required to get anything. It's not like supported phones where they go, if you have this phone, you must get texting. If you have this phone, you must get data. That's the way I see it; I could be wrong. Before I got an iPhone, I had an unlimited data plan for $10. I opened Safari on my edge connection and was given the option to either upgrade my data plan to a $30 data plan or put my sim into a device which supports the $10 data plan. I upgraded. But the fact that I wasn't forced to upgrade to a data plan further backs my theory. Keep in mind that you can always use your unlocked iPhone with wifi on t-mobile. Hth, Rose On Jun 15, 2011, at 3:34 AM, Cornell Ligon wrote: > > In my case, and I do want an IPhone, it is a rip off. I currently don't have a data plan with TMobile and use a basic phone. I want the IPohne, because of it's accessibility for basic calls. I would then have to pay for a data plan if I want to use other features, wouldn't I? > I think I'[ll wait until the merger of AT&T and TMobile officially goes through and see if TMobile will then offer it. Right now, TMobile has no accessible phones for basic calling - they offer many Android modles, but once again, a data plan is required. I wish Apple sold a basic IPHone for basic cellular use w/o data features. > > Just my thoughts! > > Best Regards, Cornell > > > > >> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:26:09 +0800 >> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >> From: krbarry at gmail.com >> Subject: Re: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States >> >> It's not a rip off. >> That is what an IPhone costs. >> If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a subsidized >> price and you will more than pay it back in fees. >> The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, >> phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly >> extortion as a subsidized phone. >> Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. >> It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without informing >> them you have an IPhone. >> Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their unique >> frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. >> I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is what wifi is for. >> And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! >> Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are virtually >> unknown here. >> Kevin >> >> At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: >>> Hi all. >>> First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are finally! >>> But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone 4 locked >>> to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. >>> Just my thoughts. >>> Chat soon. >>> >>> >>> Chris Hallsworth >>> Sent from Thunderbird >>> >>> On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the >>>> on line Apple Store, it's about time. 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For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jun 15 14:10:54 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:10:54 -0500 Subject: app to read pdb format files Message-ID: <3ED83CB1-6D46-430F-AF7E-0EC71EDCA86B@softcon.com> Does anyone know of an accessible program that will read encrypted pdb files (sometimes called palm doc format) files? I know there's several that can read unprotected pdb files, but I don't know of any that can handle encrypted versions. If anyone knows of an accessible method of reading these files, I'd sure like to hear about it. I've got a few of these, and I'd like to be able touse them on the mac or ipod touch. Thanks. From w9fyi at mac-access.net Wed Jun 15 15:58:46 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:58:46 -0700 Subject: dealing with message flags and attributes in mail? Message-ID: HI all, When using mac mail, how do you flag a message as high importance, and/or request return receipts etc? I don't find this option in the menu bar. Thanks From mike at busboom.at Wed Jun 15 16:43:04 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:43:04 +0200 Subject: Long Headers in Mail and VO In-Reply-To: <01FB21B5-8EA6-4F80-A7F6-7A49C388E051@me.com> References: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> <01FB21B5-8EA6-4F80-A7F6-7A49C388E051@me.com> Message-ID: Christopher, please excuse me for taking so long to get back to you. Having Mail display the default headers for each message immediately solved the problem. Thank you very much. I hope that your suggestion helps others on the list, too. Thanks again, Mike On 11,Jun,2011, at 11:50 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: > You possibly have no headers displayed in mail. In one version of OSX, there was an issue with VO where messages weren't being red out automaticly when you pressed enter on them. You need to go in to mail preferences, viewing, and it is the first option you'll see. > > Hope this helps. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 12/06/2011, at 3:49 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello Travis, >> >> In some ways, your explanation is confusing to me. If I don't navigate to the Long Header, all I have in the list of messages is the person's name, not an e-mail address. Using your name from the Mac-Access list of messages, nothing happened when I hit the VO Space combination on your name. My Mac just emitted a low-frequency bong. >> >> I also tried to do the shift-VO-M on your name, and nothing happened. If I don't interact with the Long Header, I can't find the recipient's e-mail address anywhere within the text, and I can't get to the header unless I invoke the Shift-Command-H command. >> >> I am thinking that I need to enable an option somewhere within Mail if your suggestion is going to work for me. >> >> Take care and thanks for your input, >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> On 11,Jun,2011, at 6:13 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: >> >>> Actually, you shouldn't need to use the long headers, In order to reply to the sender, instead of the list, all you need to do is to interact with the header, find the user's name, and press vo-space on the menu button there. It will then pop up with various options, such as copy address, reply to sender, add to address book, and more. Simply select reply to sender, and you're all set. >>> That's all there is to it. >>> No need to turn on long headers at all. >>> >>> >>> On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> I wanted to respond privately to someone on this list and in order to do so, I used Shift-Command-H to get to the Long header of a note that this person posted to this list. When I interacted with the Long Header, I was unable to move character-by-character to ascertain the individual's e-mail address. I also tried to use the context menu (Shift-VO-M) while on the e-mail address in question, but this got me nowhere. While it is possible to invoke VO-W to hear the address spelled out, I can't seem to find a way to copy and paste this person't address into a new e-mail. >>>> >>>> On an aside, I was trying to get Dane's address from a response of his to a question of mine here on the list. :) >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Wed Jun 15 16:47:02 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:47:02 +0200 Subject: Long Headers in Mail and VO In-Reply-To: References: <07C556D5-DB48-4912-8E83-CB2804102F59@busboom.at> Message-ID: <4B4B82BF-4E48-42B8-803F-D512D88690F2@busboom.at> Hello Carolyn, Like a couple of other suggestions on the list, I tried yours, and it worked out fine. Thank you. So although I initially had difficulties with mail headers, I now know of at least two reliable ways to solve the problem in the future. :) The fact of the matter is instructive: There is usually always more than one way to come at a computer problem and find a satisfactory solution. Best regards, Mike On 12,Jun,2011, at 3:54 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi: > I tried Chris' suggestion, and had no luck whatsoever. Such is the way with the mac. Some things work great for some and not for others, and who knows why.:) > In any case, I've done a great deal of off-list replying from the headers. The way I've found that works best for me is to interact with the header. Move forward through the email address to the end of it, then vo-shift-left arrow to select it, and it most likely will copy. > HTH > Carolyn > > On Jun 11, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: > >> Hi. The command that your looking for in this case is VO CMD space. once you've located the beginning of the email address. This command will perform a mouse click and will invoke a menu that allows you to reply to sender. >> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >> >> On 11/06/2011, at 11:04 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I wanted to respond privately to someone on this list and in order to do so, I used Shift-Command-H to get to the Long header of a note that this person posted to this list. When I interacted with the Long Header, I was unable to move character-by-character to ascertain the individual's e-mail address. I also tried to use the context menu (Shift-VO-M) while on the e-mail address in question, but this got me nowhere. While it is possible to invoke VO-W to hear the address spelled out, I can't seem to find a way to copy and paste this person't address into a new e-mail. >>> >>> On an aside, I was trying to get Dane's address from a response of his to a question of mine here on the list. :) >>> >>> Best regards to all, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Wed Jun 15 16:57:45 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:57:45 +0200 Subject: the kobo app? In-Reply-To: <857A287A-373B-4E5B-AF98-BD5D4ABD8D7B@anarchie.org.uk> References: <0B341485-E633-4236-9B62-CF0DAE0FE740@mac-access.net> <857A287A-373B-4E5B-AF98-BD5D4ABD8D7B@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: To users of Kobo, what is it? Is it a blindness-specific app? Thanks, Mike On 14,Jun,2011, at 3:39 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Justin, > > I just got the latest version of Kobo this afternoon and it's working fine for me. I found a Close Tooltip button at the top left of the screen. Could this solve your problem? Alternatively, have you tried turning VoiceOver off then tapping the centre of the screen? That often fixes things for me. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Justin Mann wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Has anybody attempted to use the Kobo app lately on the iPhone? I'm fearing the worst that it is now inaccessible. When trying to read books, and/or change reading settings to make a book readable, everything is covered by a tooltip, and voiceover is of no use. Anybody had the same issue? >> Thanks >> Justin >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Jun 15 17:06:37 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:06:37 +0100 Subject: Signatures in Mil Message-ID: <7F1CEB61-3270-4904-ADA4-722B15D9FE59@mac-access.net> Hi all Firstly, is it possible to junk a load of old signatures in Mail which you no longer want to use? Secondly, how do you go about assigning these to a specific account? It's been so long that I can't remember how I did it years ago, and it just doesn't seem to be too intuitive. Gordon From mfurness at bell.net Wed Jun 15 18:30:01 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:30:01 -0400 Subject: Signatures in Mil In-Reply-To: <7F1CEB61-3270-4904-ADA4-722B15D9FE59@mac-access.net> References: <7F1CEB61-3270-4904-ADA4-722B15D9FE59@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I shall try to help you as I just assigned new signatures to my 3 accounts I am not sure how to bulk erase signatures 1. command comma, while in mail, . 2. v o right arrow to signature. 3. v o space, to select signature. 4. tab and you should be in a column, hopefully you will hear "all accounts" 5. down arrow and pick which account you desire 6. Here is where iit becomes tricky. I v o right arrowed until It came to an edit field I typed in my desired signature 7. keep on right arrowing picking anything you wish concerning options. You are now done. Concerning deleting signatures, most likely you will need to tab to the column where they are select the one you want deleted, 2. vo right arrow to the delete button and hit v o space 3. You might be able to select several here and only find and hit delete once. HTH Mark. On 2011-06-15, at 12:06 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all > > Firstly, is it possible to junk a load of old signatures in Mail which you no longer want to use? Secondly, how do you go about assigning these to a specific account? It's been so long that I can't remember how I did it years ago, and it just doesn't seem to be too intuitive. > > Gordon > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. From mfurness at bell.net Wed Jun 15 18:47:32 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:47:32 -0400 Subject: navigon questions Message-ID: Using a I Phone4 is there any reason why we should not purchase the North America package, when the Canadian package will meet most of our needs? For the additional $10 we will receive all of North America. In the future we will be travelling in the US. My concern is strain on the I Phone with the extra maps. Does Navagon use much data? Thank you for all information. Mark The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. From jijeshlist at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 18:55:38 2011 From: jijeshlist at gmail.com (jijesh a) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:25:38 +0530 Subject: help for i work Message-ID: respected members, i am jijesh from india,reasonly joined in this list. got a mac From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 19:47:36 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:47:36 -0700 Subject: navigon questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually the reason navigon is so big is all the maps are offline on the device. the only time you might need to get online is if you are navigating but I've explored and found stuff and input roots all in airplain mode. On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Mark Furness wrote: > Using a I Phone4 is there any reason why we should not purchase the North America package, when the Canadian package will meet most of our needs? > For the additional $10 we will receive all of North America. In the future we will be travelling in the US. > > My concern is strain on the I Phone with the extra maps. > > Does Navagon use much data? > > > Thank you for all information. > > Mark > The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From mike at busboom.at Wed Jun 15 19:49:25 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:49:25 +0200 Subject: Skype has new window and Voice Over Message-ID: <42AF3578-72D7-420C-830B-0BA5FA57DF74@busboom.at> Hello everyone, I am using Skype, version 5.1.0.914. Although getting used to this version took some time, I kind of like it, though there are certainly accessibility-related issues with which one must deal. One thing that I find rather annoying is the message that I constantly hear, no matter what application I am in, is: "Skype has new window." I could obviously unload Skype to make this message disappear, but I really like to have it running in the background. Is there some sort of setting in Voice Over that I could change or within Skype itself to make this message disappear? My best to all, Mike From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 19:50:26 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:50:26 -0700 Subject: using an ipod as a 3g device In-Reply-To: References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com>, <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net>, <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com>, <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4838B1A1-4104-41DB-A227-CFB7EA41645D@gmail.com> > yeah you would but why to get an ipod and get a case from sprint that gives you the ability to have 3g. then you can use skype and other programs and cut your costs in half. I do plan on doing this in the future. On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Cornell Ligon wrote: > > In my case, and I do want an IPhone, it is a rip off. I currently don't have a data plan with TMobile and use a basic phone. I want the IPohne, because of it's accessibility for basic calls. I would then have to pay for a data plan if I want to use other features, wouldn't I? > I think I'[ll wait until the merger of AT&T and TMobile officially goes through and see if TMobile will then offer it. Right now, TMobile has no accessible phones for basic calling - they offer many Android modles, but once again, a data plan is required. I wish Apple sold a basic IPHone for basic cellular use w/o data features. > > Just my thoughts! > > Best Regards, Cornell > > > > >> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:26:09 +0800 >> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >> From: krbarry at gmail.com >> Subject: Re: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States >> >> It's not a rip off. >> That is what an IPhone costs. >> If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a subsidized >> price and you will more than pay it back in fees. >> The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, >> phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly >> extortion as a subsidized phone. >> Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. >> It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without informing >> them you have an IPhone. >> Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their unique >> frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. >> I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is what wifi is for. >> And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! >> Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are virtually >> unknown here. >> Kevin >> >> At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: >>> Hi all. >>> First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are finally! >>> But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone 4 locked >>> to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. >>> Just my thoughts. >>> Chat soon. >>> >>> >>> Chris Hallsworth >>> Sent from Thunderbird >>> >>> On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the >>>> on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. >>>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >>>> posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >>> posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From helianthe at mac-access.net Wed Jun 15 20:05:41 2011 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & Twinny) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:05:41 +0200 Subject: Skype has new window and Voice Over In-Reply-To: <42AF3578-72D7-420C-830B-0BA5FA57DF74@busboom.at> References: <42AF3578-72D7-420C-830B-0BA5FA57DF74@busboom.at> Message-ID: <9930C4EE-DA37-49CF-AA75-7F7390080F69@mac-access.net> Hi Mike, Well I think you have to disable visual notifications if I remember correctly. I was having the same problem and I seem to remember being told to disable visual notifications. Try this and see if that works out. Lyn & Twinny On Jun 15, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am using Skype, version 5.1.0.914. Although getting used to this version took some time, I kind of like it, though there are certainly accessibility-related issues with which one must deal. > > One thing that I find rather annoying is the message that I constantly hear, no matter what application I am in, is: "Skype has new window." I could obviously unload Skype to make this message disappear, but I really like to have it running in the background. Is there some sort of setting in Voice Over that I could change or within Skype itself to make this message disappear? > > My best to all, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > ********** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helianthe at mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeaux33 at gmail.com skype: keanemaniac facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 I am now also on twitter: www.twitter.com/mickymac2010 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. From jon.c.cohn at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 18:09:12 2011 From: jon.c.cohn at gmail.com (Jonathan C. Cohn) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:09:12 -0400 Subject: Signatures in Mil In-Reply-To: <7F1CEB61-3270-4904-ADA4-722B15D9FE59@mac-access.net> References: <7F1CEB61-3270-4904-ADA4-722B15D9FE59@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <46609947-08CA-465A-B050-291D270D3124@gmail.com> 1. To delete a signature go to the all signature item in the first table. 2. Select the signatures you don't want. 3. Hit command-delete 4. Say yes to the Dialog box. Moving signatures into a specific mail box is a bit more tricky. I had spent some time trying to make an applescript do this, but was unable to find any AppleScript parameters to associate a given signature with an account. I was able to associate signatures with accounts using 1. Turn off cursor tracking. 2. MOve mouse to a line in the signatures table. 3. route mouse to VO 4. command-control-option-shift-space (mouse down) 5. move VO cursor to the accounts table and the specific account you want the signature for 6. Again route the mouse to VO and 7. command-control-option-shift-space (mouse up) Very convoluted for a very short simple drag and drop with somebody that has eyesight. I guess this will be easier in Lion. Jonathan On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all > > Firstly, is it possible to junk a load of old signatures in Mail which you no longer want to use? Secondly, how do you go about assigning these to a specific account? It's been so long that I can't remember how I did it years ago, and it just doesn't seem to be too intuitive. > > Gordon > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Jonathan C. Cohn joncohn at cox.net From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Jun 15 21:00:15 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:00:15 +0200 Subject: the kobo app? In-Reply-To: References: <0B341485-E633-4236-9B62-CF0DAE0FE740@mac-access.net> <857A287A-373B-4E5B-AF98-BD5D4ABD8D7B@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <77098DD3-C880-4942-88E5-0D563E3336D3@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Mike, Kobo is an e-reader for the iPhone. It is not blindness specific, and for a time, it became inaccessible. However, you can buy a lot of recently published books in English, no matter where you are in the world. I wouldn't be without it. Cheers, Anne On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > To users of Kobo, what is it? > > Is it a blindness-specific app? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > On 14,Jun,2011, at 3:39 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Justin, >> >> I just got the latest version of Kobo this afternoon and it's working fine for me. I found a Close Tooltip button at the top left of the screen. Could this solve your problem? Alternatively, have you tried turning VoiceOver off then tapping the centre of the screen? That often fixes things for me. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On Jun 14, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Justin Mann wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> Has anybody attempted to use the Kobo app lately on the iPhone? I'm fearing the worst that it is now inaccessible. When trying to read books, and/or change reading settings to make a book readable, everything is covered by a tooltip, and voiceover is of no use. Anybody had the same issue? >>> Thanks >>> Justin >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Wed Jun 15 21:17:36 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:17:36 -0400 Subject: navigon questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Mark, You wrote: > Using a I Phone4 is there any reason why we should not purchase the North America I personally would say "go for it while it's still on sale." Since you know you'll be traveling in the US, I think it is worth the additional cost. This, of course, assumes you have enough storage on your iphone. Navigon Mobile Navigator North America takes up approximately 1.7GB of storage while Navigon Canada is listed at a much smaller 560MB according to the description in iTunes. Another thing to consider, as Sarah pointed out, is that with Navigon you will not be dependent on your iPhone's data connection because the maps, voices, etc are all stored locally on the iphone, so all you need is a connection to some GPS satellites which, thankfully, are not carrier or country specific and don't even require a data plan. HTH, Bryan From va3ets2000 at me.com Wed Jun 15 23:01:45 2011 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:01:45 -0400 Subject: Skype has new window and Voice Over In-Reply-To: <42AF3578-72D7-420C-830B-0BA5FA57DF74@busboom.at> References: <42AF3578-72D7-420C-830B-0BA5FA57DF74@busboom.at> Message-ID: Hi mIke, Disabling visual notifications is the solution to stop this annoying behaviour. You can do this in skype preferences, under notifications. Hope this helps. On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am using Skype, version 5.1.0.914. Although getting used to this version took some time, I kind of like it, though there are certainly accessibility-related issues with which one must deal. > > One thing that I find rather annoying is the message that I constantly hear, no matter what application I am in, is: "Skype has new window." I could obviously unload Skype to make this message disappear, but I really like to have it running in the background. Is there some sort of setting in Voice Over that I could change or within Skype itself to make this message disappear? > > My best to all, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jun 15 23:30:20 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:30:20 +0100 Subject: Signatures in Mil In-Reply-To: <46609947-08CA-465A-B050-291D270D3124@gmail.com> References: <7F1CEB61-3270-4904-ADA4-722B15D9FE59@mac-access.net> <46609947-08CA-465A-B050-291D270D3124@gmail.com> Message-ID: <736EF995-2B0B-41D4-B7AE-5E7D90F29B89@mac-access.net> Hello Jonathan I won't quote your entire message, although I compliment you on the way you wrote that response. It was excellent; concise and entirely accurate. Now; to explain why Gordon had trouble. It seems our signature list got corrupted and it would not let him delete old redundant signatures which we thought had gone long ago. So we had to manually delete the files, then modify the preferences within mail to reflect the non-existent data. All is working now, thank you very much. You confirmed what Gordon thought was the correct procedure. Again, my compliments on a well written response. =============================== Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. ------------------------------ From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jun 15 23:55:34 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:55:34 +0100 Subject: Coriolis Systems; iDefrag 2.05 Message-ID: <2775DF65-DD0C-4F9B-8CA1-A263AC556A93@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Is anybody using this utility? If so, have you attempted to use it on an external volume? I have just upgraded to the latest version which was a free update for us. But each time I try to run it I'm getting unvalidated errors on every volume I try to open. The error check also fails; so I resorted to Disk Utility. Disk Utility tells me that the volumes are fine, no errors at all. So does Disk Warrior and I'm going to try and track down Disk Genius because we've heard good things about that utility. We are wondering whether it could be the case that iDefrag no longer likes case sensitive file formats, which is what we use on all of our machines. I guess we'd better write to Coliolis Systems as well; but I just thought I'd mention it here. Lynne =============================== Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. ------------------------------ From moriond at mac.com Thu Jun 16 00:04:00 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:04:00 -1000 Subject: iOS SkySafari 3 app free today Message-ID: <8FDE91B8-174E-419B-B8BB-95AB769423C7@mac.com> Hi All, There were some earlier discussions about various iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad apps that gave sunrise and sunset times, and information about phases of the moon. I recall that Dane was one of the people who was interested in this. Well, today's lunar eclipse, visible in Australia (and most places other than North America) occasioned a freebie: SkySafari 3. (Sorry I didn't get a chance to post this before the actual eclipse began less than an hour ago.) This is a pretty nice and accessible app that you can use as an Astronomy Education app rather than a planetarium/sky viewing app. I've posted a comment about this in the app deals on the Apple Vis site. Here's the link to the app, which is a universal binary for both iPhone and iPad: ? SkySafari 3 (free today, in honor of the lunar eclipse and the developer's 2nd anniversary, normally $2.99) http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/skysafari-3/id437108143?mt=8 HTH. Cheers, Esther From moriond at mac.com Thu Jun 16 00:08:49 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:08:49 -1000 Subject: Coriolis Systems; iDefrag 2.05 In-Reply-To: <2775DF65-DD0C-4F9B-8CA1-A263AC556A93@mac-access.net> References: <2775DF65-DD0C-4F9B-8CA1-A263AC556A93@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, I've only used iDefrag when booting from an external cloned disk to defrag my base hard drive, and haven't updated to the latest version yet. Did you used to be able to run this to defrag external volumes? But when you have externally mounted volumes, doesn't Time Machine indexing, etc. run by default, which might interfere with the operation of iDefrag in moving things around? Cheers, Esther On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:55, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Is anybody using this utility? If so, have you attempted to use it on an external volume? I have just upgraded to the latest version which was a free update for us. But each time I try to run it I'm getting unvalidated errors on every volume I try to open. The error check also fails; so I resorted to Disk Utility. Disk Utility tells me that the volumes are fine, no errors at all. So does Disk Warrior and I'm going to try and track down Disk Genius because we've heard good things about that utility. > > We are wondering whether it could be the case that iDefrag no longer likes case sensitive file formats, which is what we use on all of our machines. I guess we'd better write to Coliolis Systems as well; but I just thought I'd mention it here. > > Lynne > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 16 00:14:19 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:14:19 +0100 Subject: Coriolis Systems; iDefrag 2.05 In-Reply-To: References: <2775DF65-DD0C-4F9B-8CA1-A263AC556A93@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Esther I am going to try and get into the habit of top posting so as to satisfy the requirements of those who can't handle, or don't like, which ever it may be, the concept of inter-posting. This won't apply to private email. We have Time Machine disabled, as it's a waste of space to be honest. :) Does disabling it not disable the indexing? If not, is there a way to do that? Actually, we boot from an external volume most of the time at the present, so I will try on our internal SATA drive to see if I get the same error. Thank you for the useful response. It is appreciated. Lynne On 16 Jun 2011, at 00:08, Esther wrote: Hi Lynne, I've only used iDefrag when booting from an external cloned disk to defrag my base hard drive, and haven't updated to the latest version yet. Did you used to be able to run this to defrag external volumes? But when you have externally mounted volumes, doesn't Time Machine indexing, etc. run by default, which might interfere with the operation of iDefrag in moving things around? From moriond at mac.com Thu Jun 16 00:19:10 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:19:10 -1000 Subject: moveAddict discounted at $4.99 from MacUpdate Promo site today Message-ID: <396840DB-CAC7-4BBE-91ED-1F0ECC729D88@mac.com> Hi all, Sorry for the late post, but in light of earlier discussions about the lack of "cut and paste" for files and folders in Finder, I thought I'd mention that moveAddict is on sale for $4.99 for the next 4 and half hours from the MacUpdate Promo site: http://mupromo.com The normal retail price is $7.99, and this product will be discounted at $6.49 for the next 14 days at the MacUpdate Promo site. moveAddict is software that allows you to move files in the Finder GUI with cut and paste. It also gives you the option of merging instead of replacing files with similar names if you move them in the "move to" directory. The MacUpdate site requires that you create an account the first time you purchase software. I recall this requires a one-time negotiation of a CAPTCHA. Thereafter, there are no accessibility issues, and you can access receipts with license codes for any of your past purchases. They usually link to free trial downloads and let you view comments from other users about the software. moveAddict is also available from the Mac App Store (at full price), but the App Store does not support trial downloads. If you purchase moveAddict from the App Store, you should still visit the developer's site (linked at the mupromo web page) to download the app with the "Accessibility folder" that contains a way to separately access the preview pane for the app. This is not necessary, but is helpful if you decide to redefine the default definitions for cut and paste from Command-x and Command-v to something else. HTH. Cheers, Esther From moriond at mac.com Thu Jun 16 00:27:12 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:27:12 -1000 Subject: Coriolis Systems; iDefrag 2.05 In-Reply-To: References: <2775DF65-DD0C-4F9B-8CA1-A263AC556A93@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <772C34D9-1CCE-421D-811C-881ED268C922@mac.com> Hi Lynne, On Jun 15, 2011, at 13:14, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > We have Time Machine disabled, as it's a waste of space to be honest. :) Does disabling it not disable the indexing? If not, is there a way to do that? > > Actually, we boot from an external volume most of the time at the present, so I will try on our internal SATA drive to see if I get the same error. I think I was thinking about Spotlight indexing, which shouldn't interfere with iDefrag, but which you may want to stop manually. You can do this with System Preferences > Spotlight > Privacy by adding volumes that you want it to stop indexing. This may not be an issue, but the usual reason you might want to stop Spotlight indexing external drives is when you attach backup drives. HTH. Cheers, Esther From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 16 00:29:11 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:29:11 +0100 Subject: NCH Software; Zulu DJ Message-ID: Hello everybody It looks as though we have finally found a broadcast tool for OSX which has fully-featured DJ and broadcasting capabilities. This programme has loads of keyboard shortcuts, supports manual and auto-beat mixing and loads more functions. It also seems to have a scheduler so that you can run a 24/7 automated system if you wish. We're currently in the early stages of testing, as we've also involved with a very great number of other projects currently, Mac related and otherwise. But our early testing has caused me to opt to buy the programme because we are trying to encourage developers who make their software accessible, (yes, Dane, Australians as well! ;-)). So if you're a broadcaster you might want to look at this program and try it for yourself. There is a free version which doesn't expire after the demo of 14 days; but the "Master" functions will be disabled. The full version was, at least when I bought it yesterday, on offer with 30% off. You can find it here: From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 16 00:34:00 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:34:00 +0100 Subject: Coriolis Systems; iDefrag 2.05 In-Reply-To: <772C34D9-1CCE-421D-811C-881ED268C922@mac.com> References: <2775DF65-DD0C-4F9B-8CA1-A263AC556A93@mac-access.net> <772C34D9-1CCE-421D-811C-881ED268C922@mac.com> Message-ID: Hello Esther Does this slow down access at all? The one thing I'm thinking of turning off is those _.DS_STORE files which, although not visible via OSX are visible via other OS installations on a network. I don't know what negative effect, if any, doing that would have; but I'm irritated by having to delete them all the time. yes, I know you can turn them off in network volumes using things like TinkerTool and Cocktail; but it doesn't always seem to work. In any event I'll turn of Spotlight indexing and see what happens. Many thanks. On 16 Jun 2011, at 00:27, Esther wrote: > ? I think I was thinking about Spotlight indexing, which shouldn't interfere with iDefrag, but which you may want to stop manually. You can do this with System Preferences > Spotlight > Privacy by adding volumes that you want it to stop indexing. ? This may not be an issue, but the usual reason you might want to stop Spotlight indexing external drives is when you attach backup drives. From moriond at mac.com Thu Jun 16 01:14:08 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:14:08 -1000 Subject: Coriolis Systems; iDefrag 2.05 In-Reply-To: References: <2775DF65-DD0C-4F9B-8CA1-A263AC556A93@mac-access.net> <772C34D9-1CCE-421D-811C-881ED268C922@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, I'm afraid I haven't done enough testing to tell with iDefrag. Oddly enough, I'm finding that while the new MacBook Pros have quite nice features with the TrackPad Commander they're less robust than the older MacBooks that were issued pre-Unibody. This isn't to say that they're fragile, but I think that the last models that were issued with the FireWire ports were really built like tanks, and could withstand almost anything. Anne has certainly found that to be true. A week or so ago I lost mouse cursor focus as well as having VoiceOver stop working. I managed to get this all back with a reboot, but the verdict from the Apple Store was that I was running too many things, and should just reboot my machine more frequently (like at least once a week or every 10 days). I never had this restriction on the older MacBook. (I think I may have lost an email message from Gordon at that time). Best, Esther On Jun 15, 2011, at 13:34, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Esther > > Does this slow down access at all? The one thing I'm thinking of turning off is those _.DS_STORE files which, although not visible via OSX are visible via other OS installations on a network. I don't know what negative effect, if any, doing that would have; but I'm irritated by having to delete them all the time. yes, I know you can turn them off in network volumes using things like TinkerTool and Cocktail; but it doesn't always seem to work. > > In any event I'll turn of Spotlight indexing and see what happens. Many thanks. > > On 16 Jun 2011, at 00:27, Esther wrote: >> > ? I think I was thinking about Spotlight indexing, which shouldn't interfere with iDefrag, but which you may want to stop manually. You can do this with System Preferences > Spotlight > Privacy by adding volumes that you want it to stop indexing. > > ? This may not be an issue, but the usual reason you might want to stop Spotlight indexing external drives is when you attach backup drives. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jun 16 01:27:29 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:27:29 +0100 Subject: Macs & Stability; [Was Coriolis Systems] In-Reply-To: References: <2775DF65-DD0C-4F9B-8CA1-A263AC556A93@mac-access.net> <772C34D9-1CCE-421D-811C-881ED268C922@mac.com> Message-ID: Hello Esther. We are not encountering any such difficulties with our late 2009 or early 2010 MacBook. I'm not sure which it actually is now, since a reseller had to change our motherboard after he trashed the existing one while trying to remove a paper disk from the DVD drive. But we are finding that we can do most anything and the machine holds up fine. I sometimes have upwards of a dozen windows open at once, as I'm doing admin work for the business and other things all together. I usually don't have VoiceOver running that is true; but it works just fine. I am no expert; but I doubt those theories about rebooting every bla bla bla days. Our servers haven't been restarted in absolutely ages, and we're not encountering any problems, touch wood. of course, there's a difference between those machines and the MacBooks but we've recently switched over to Mac Minis with 8GB of RAM and dual hard drives, disposing of the 2 XServe machines we were using because Apple has discontinued them. Long story as to the why's and wherefore's not really for the list I guess. But suffice it to say that all 6 of the Mac Minis are equal in spec, although not the same age models. They're all running fine. Actually the next one we add will be an SDD model. It'll be interesting to see how that performs. Lynne On 16 Jun 2011, at 01:14, Esther wrote: ? I'm afraid I haven't done enough testing to tell with iDefrag. Oddly enough, I'm finding that while the new MacBook Pros have quite nice features with the TrackPad Commander they're less robust than the older MacBooks that were issued pre-Unibody. This isn't to say that they're fragile, but I think that the last models that were issued with the FireWire ports were really built like tanks, and could withstand almost anything. Anne has certainly found that to be true. A week or so ago I lost mouse cursor focus as well as having VoiceOver stop working. I managed to get this all back with a reboot, but the verdict from the Apple Store was that I was running too many things, and should just reboot my machine more frequently (like at least once a week or every 10 days). I never had this restriction on the older MacBook. (I think I may have lost an email message from Gordon at that time). From solsticesinger at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 01:28:02 2011 From: solsticesinger at gmail.com (Shannon Dyer) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:28:02 -0400 Subject: NCH Software; Zulu DJ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7A74C10E-6537-47C7-849A-9A0ED97B8122@gmail.com> I'm an internet broadcaster, looking for such a tool. However, I live in the U.S. I checked, and couldn't find anything about this in my Mac store. Does anyone know of anything comparable? Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net On Jun 15, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > It looks as though we have finally found a broadcast tool for OSX which has fully-featured DJ and broadcasting capabilities. This programme has loads of keyboard shortcuts, supports manual and auto-beat mixing and loads more functions. It also seems to have a scheduler so that you can run a 24/7 automated system if you wish. We're currently in the early stages of testing, as we've also involved with a very great number of other projects currently, Mac related and otherwise. > > But our early testing has caused me to opt to buy the programme because we are trying to encourage developers who make their software accessible, (yes, Dane, Australians as well! ;-)). So if you're a broadcaster you might want to look at this program and try it for yourself. There is a free version which doesn't expire after the demo of 14 days; but the "Master" functions will be disabled. The full version was, at least when I bought it yesterday, on offer with 30% off. > > You can find it here: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 16 01:28:30 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:28:30 +0100 Subject: Macs & Stability; [Was Coriolis Systems] In-Reply-To: References: <2775DF65-DD0C-4F9B-8CA1-A263AC556A93@mac-access.net> <772C34D9-1CCE-421D-811C-881ED268C922@mac.com> Message-ID: <4EEF86FF-CBFA-4919-BA59-1F8A38EBBBAB@mac-access.net> Oopse! forgot to change accounts again; sorry. Guess it's bedtime! Lynne On 16 Jun 2011, at 01:27, Gordon Smith wrote: Hello Esther. We are not encountering any such difficulties with our late 2009 or early 2010 MacBook. I'm not sure which it actually is now, since a reseller had to change our motherboard after he trashed the existing one while trying to remove a paper disk from the DVD drive. But we are finding that we can do most anything and the machine holds up fine. I sometimes have upwards of a dozen windows open at once, as I'm doing admin work for the business and other things all together. I usually don't have VoiceOver running that is true; but it works just fine. I am no expert; but I doubt those theories about rebooting every bla bla bla days. Our servers haven't been restarted in absolutely ages, and we're not encountering any problems, touch wood. of course, there's a difference between those machines and the MacBooks but we've recently switched over to Mac Minis with 8GB of RAM and dual hard drives, disposing of the 2 XServe machines we were using because Apple has discontinued them. Long story as to the why's and wherefore's not really for the list I guess. But suffice it to say that all 6 of the Mac Minis are equal in spec, although not the same age models. They're all running fine. Actually the next one we add will be an SDD model. It'll be interesting to see how that performs. Lynne On 16 Jun 2011, at 01:14, Esther wrote: ? I'm afraid I haven't done enough testing to tell with iDefrag. Oddly enough, I'm finding that while the new MacBook Pros have quite nice features with the TrackPad Commander they're less robust than the older MacBooks that were issued pre-Unibody. This isn't to say that they're fragile, but I think that the last models that were issued with the FireWire ports were really built like tanks, and could withstand almost anything. Anne has certainly found that to be true. A week or so ago I lost mouse cursor focus as well as having VoiceOver stop working. I managed to get this all back with a reboot, but the verdict from the Apple Store was that I was running too many things, and should just reboot my machine more frequently (like at least once a week or every 10 days). I never had this restriction on the older MacBook. (I think I may have lost an email message from Gordon at that time). <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 16 01:30:11 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:30:11 +0100 Subject: NCH Software; Zulu DJ In-Reply-To: <7A74C10E-6537-47C7-849A-9A0ED97B8122@gmail.com> References: <7A74C10E-6537-47C7-849A-9A0ED97B8122@gmail.com> Message-ID: <917A41DF-258C-40C4-AFC2-BB6317737876@mac-access.net> Hello Shannon Why can't you use the website? Lynne On 16 Jun 2011, at 01:28, Shannon Dyer wrote: I'm an internet broadcaster, looking for such a tool. However, I live in the U.S. I checked, and couldn't find anything about this in my Mac store. Does anyone know of anything comparable? From moopiecurran at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 01:31:29 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:31:29 -0400 Subject: NCH Software; Zulu DJ In-Reply-To: <7A74C10E-6537-47C7-849A-9A0ED97B8122@gmail.com> References: <7A74C10E-6537-47C7-849A-9A0ED97B8122@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3322AC73-4742-481B-B5D7-B68591A131C8@gmail.com> Hi Shannon, I looked, and I saw one called Zulu, I'm not sure it is the same thing or not, but it has a lot of hotkeys, it sounds like the one Lynne was describing. HTH, Courtney On Jun 15, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Shannon Dyer wrote: > I'm an internet broadcaster, looking for such a tool. However, I live in the U.S. I checked, and couldn't find anything about this in my Mac store. Does anyone know of anything comparable? > > Shannon > Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: > http://mojoradio.us/listen > or > www.mintfm.net > > On Jun 15, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> It looks as though we have finally found a broadcast tool for OSX which has fully-featured DJ and broadcasting capabilities. This programme has loads of keyboard shortcuts, supports manual and auto-beat mixing and loads more functions. It also seems to have a scheduler so that you can run a 24/7 automated system if you wish. We're currently in the early stages of testing, as we've also involved with a very great number of other projects currently, Mac related and otherwise. >> >> But our early testing has caused me to opt to buy the programme because we are trying to encourage developers who make their software accessible, (yes, Dane, Australians as well! ;-)). So if you're a broadcaster you might want to look at this program and try it for yourself. There is a free version which doesn't expire after the demo of 14 days; but the "Master" functions will be disabled. The full version was, at least when I bought it yesterday, on offer with 30% off. >> >> You can find it here: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From solsticesinger at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 01:46:56 2011 From: solsticesinger at gmail.com (Shannon Dyer) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:46:56 -0400 Subject: NCH Software; Zulu DJ In-Reply-To: <3322AC73-4742-481B-B5D7-B68591A131C8@gmail.com> References: <7A74C10E-6537-47C7-849A-9A0ED97B8122@gmail.com> <3322AC73-4742-481B-B5D7-B68591A131C8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3F64FDDB-3B52-4703-92D2-8A4FC539577A@gmail.com> Hi. How odd! I wonder why it isn't coming up for me. Perhaps I searched incorrectly. Thanks for telling me that it does exist, or that something like it does. I'll keep looking. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net On Jun 15, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi Shannon, > I looked, and I saw one called Zulu, I'm not sure it is the same thing or not, but it has a lot of hotkeys, it sounds like the one Lynne was describing. > HTH, > Courtney > > On Jun 15, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Shannon Dyer wrote: > >> I'm an internet broadcaster, looking for such a tool. However, I live in the U.S. I checked, and couldn't find anything about this in my Mac store. Does anyone know of anything comparable? >> >> Shannon >> Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: >> http://mojoradio.us/listen >> or >> www.mintfm.net >> >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> It looks as though we have finally found a broadcast tool for OSX which has fully-featured DJ and broadcasting capabilities. This programme has loads of keyboard shortcuts, supports manual and auto-beat mixing and loads more functions. It also seems to have a scheduler so that you can run a 24/7 automated system if you wish. We're currently in the early stages of testing, as we've also involved with a very great number of other projects currently, Mac related and otherwise. >>> >>> But our early testing has caused me to opt to buy the programme because we are trying to encourage developers who make their software accessible, (yes, Dane, Australians as well! ;-)). So if you're a broadcaster you might want to look at this program and try it for yourself. There is a free version which doesn't expire after the demo of 14 days; but the "Master" functions will be disabled. The full version was, at least when I bought it yesterday, on offer with 30% off. >>> >>> You can find it here: >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Thu Jun 16 01:50:54 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:50:54 -0500 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <13CDE5C1-DEDF-4CBF-8F96-55CE5895B79E@gmail.com> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <13CDE5C1-DEDF-4CBF-8F96-55CE5895B79E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't think the carriers have any choice. Apple's exclusive deal with at&t is over, that's a deal they never should have made in my opinion, but there are a few theories as to why apple is doing this. First, they may want to sell their current stock, if the new iphone 5 is coming out later this year. Also, since most android phones can be unlocked, they may have done it to even things a bit. The main critisism Apple gets about the iphone, and IOS in general is that they are too controlling with things. I do enjoy my iphone, but I also like android because it does not have all the restrictions. Actually, we're the last place to get unlocked iphones, they've been sold in other countries for a while now. On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:49 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yeah 649 bucks or something. Yeah. Ouch! cool, but not for me. I'm actually surprised the carriers are allowing this given the way the us carriers do things but that's for another list. > > It is good though that we are seeing this. > On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. >> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Thu Jun 16 01:54:45 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:54:45 -0500 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <378BEAE4-FAB7-4B06-9D55-0634CF318872@charter.net> It works fine with t-mobile, I use it all the time. True, the data speeds are not as fast, but they suffice. You're really not getting the phone cheaper when you get it from a carrier, sure, you pay less up front, but the carrier gets that money back over time, and sometimes double the amount. I would rather buy phones outright and not be tied to a particular carrier. In most other places, unlocked phones are more common, but in the U.S. people want it cheap and are willing to give up some flexibility to get it. It's good that Apple is selling these, took them much too long to offer it. On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:26 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > It's not a rip off. > That is what an IPhone costs. > If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a subsidized price and you will more than pay it back in fees. > The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly extortion as a subsidized phone. > Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. > It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without informing them you have an IPhone. > Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their unique frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. > I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is what wifi is for. > And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! > Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are virtually unknown here. > Kevin > > At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: >> Hi all. >> First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are finally! But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone 4 locked to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. >> Just my thoughts. >> Chat soon. >> >> >> Chris Hallsworth >> Sent from Thunderbird >> >> On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. >>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Thu Jun 16 01:56:39 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:56:39 -0500 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <24DBAF90-C4DF-4EFC-A9DE-AF31CDB001C4@charter.net> If you travel abroad, that's where an unlocked phone is good, you can get prepaid sim cards and avoid roaming costs, which I've heard can be quite expensive. I've heard of at&t users getting bills in the thousand dollar range. On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:26 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > It's not a rip off. > That is what an IPhone costs. > If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a subsidized price and you will more than pay it back in fees. > The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly extortion as a subsidized phone. > Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. > It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without informing them you have an IPhone. > Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their unique frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. > I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is what wifi is for. > And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! > Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are virtually unknown here. > Kevin > > At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: >> Hi all. >> First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are finally! But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone 4 locked to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. >> Just my thoughts. >> Chat soon. >> >> >> Chris Hallsworth >> Sent from Thunderbird >> >> On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. >>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 16 02:22:57 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:22:57 +1000 Subject: Airplay is practical Message-ID: Hi! Just reading my local papers "Mac Man" Apple section where the discussion is "Airplay" and streaming media from device to device in your home. I was wondering how long it would be before Apple started liscencing "Airplay" streaming technology to speaker manufactuers, seems that this is now a reality and may have been for quite some time, all I can say is about damn time! , I've often wondered why one can't just get a pair of "stand-alone" speakers to put in a bookshelf to listen to audio streamed from another Apple device rather than have to get an Airport Express, Apple TV or plug in speakers to the Headphone socket of an Ipod, Ipad or Iphone. Anyway if anyone knows of any "Stand-Alone" speaker systems which are available that are "Airplay Compatible" can they please give them a mention on list . From weavermicha at googlemail.com Thu Jun 16 04:36:40 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 04:36:40 +0100 Subject: problem reading a manual Message-ID: <4df97790.c83be30a.46f9.45ba@mx.google.com> a few people have suggested i-bank as a useable finance app. however when i try to open the user manual in preview as it is a pdf document, i keep getting the error message relating to finder and the app and file keep getting closed. i tried converting the manual to text via email but it is too large for bt to send to the email address that converts pdf to a text file. From abreier at kc.rr.com Thu Jun 16 04:29:24 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:29:24 -0500 Subject: Thoughtless Comments Regarding VoiceOver References: <3DE6FF9A-E27D-40B4-882C-0E3995846F9D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9D2CFB61F1E84BC7894DCAEAB46E3FBD@andrea78cdd59a> I wouldn't worry about it Lynn. I think that having a diverse list makes it more enjoyable. Plus I like getting information that only sighted users can provide too. So does everyone else. I think you are trying to be thoughtful by making sure that when you add your 2 cents, that you also make sure that we all are aware that you also can view what is happening on the screen. Using apple computers ios a totally new area of learning for me so I really like to know what the screen looks like and how things work as well are how they look. I have rp and used to use the computers visually so visual learning is still very important to me as well. People today say that they want to be in the main stream, but then when they are they whine that they are not segregated. What do we really want. Do we want a list where we all have to worry about hurt feelings? I vote that for anyone that prefers a segregated list join a specialized list. Hugs, AJ Recipe for happiness: Live with enthusiasm, smile for no reason, love without conditions, act with purpose, listen with your heart, and laugh often. NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:27 AM Subject: Thoughtless Comments Regarding VoiceOver > Hello everybody > > In the course of a private discussion with a member of this group, it has > been pointed out to me that perhaps some of the ill-feeling which a very > small number of members have expressed toward me of late may be due to my > making comments in messages such as "I don't used VoiceOver", or "I can > use this programme visually so it isn't a problem". > > I do recall making those comments; but it seems that some people have > taken them out of context. So let me first and foremost apologise for any > offence given; it was not intended. > > I did not intend to make those comments as in any way patronising, or to > remind the reader of their obvious disadvantage. I was merely stating that > visually something worked, and that whatever it was we were talking about > at the time was a VoiceOver specific issue. > > I honestly had no idea at all that what I was saying was going to cause > such offence. I still don't believe that some of the abuse directed > towards me recently was justified; but I do, however, offer an unreserved > apology for any offence given by my comments. > > To be honest I'm quite surprised this subject has come up; it never even > occurred to me that what I'd said would be taken in that context. However, > I will endeavour to be more sensitive in the future. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Jun 16 05:55:32 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:55:32 -0500 Subject: iOS SkySafari 3 app free today In-Reply-To: <8FDE91B8-174E-419B-B8BB-95AB769423C7@mac.com> References: <8FDE91B8-174E-419B-B8BB-95AB769423C7@mac.com> Message-ID: <941C79E3-82BA-4833-8CEF-B4AEADC8087B@softcon.com> Thank you Esther. Exactly the sort of thing I needed, and didn't even know it. I'll be buying the full version. We do have a telescope that it can control, and I was hunting for a mac program that could handle the pointing of the scope for me. It's simple enough to tell my 9-year- old that Venus is the brightest star in the sky, so just point at it, and quite another to actually be able to point the telescope for him. This is perfect. Thank you very very much for this. You're a treasure. You have no idea how happy this makes me. From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 16 06:00:39 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 06:00:39 +0100 Subject: Thoughtless Comments Regarding VoiceOver In-Reply-To: <9D2CFB61F1E84BC7894DCAEAB46E3FBD@andrea78cdd59a> References: <3DE6FF9A-E27D-40B4-882C-0E3995846F9D@mac-access.net> <9D2CFB61F1E84BC7894DCAEAB46E3FBD@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: Hello Andrea Thank you for your comments. One member appeared to think my comments were patronising or insensitive. I just don't want to com across that way; I care deeply about the fact that others around me in the group are less fortunate than I. Lynne On 16 Jun 2011, at 04:29, Andrea Breier wrote: ? I wouldn't worry about it Lynn. I think that having a diverse list makes it more enjoyable. Plus I like getting information that only sighted users can provide too. So does everyone else. I think you are trying to be thoughtful by making sure that when you add your 2 cents, that you also make sure that we all are aware that you also can view what is happening on the screen. Using apple computers ios a totally new area of learning for me so I really like to know what the screen looks like and how things work as well are how they look. I have rp and used to use the computers visually so visual learning is still very important to me as well. People today say that they want to be in the main stream, but then when they are they whine that they are not segregated. What do we really want. Do we want a list where we all have to worry about hurt feelings? I vote that for anyone that prefers a segregated list join a specialized list. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 06:08:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:08:56 -0700 Subject: iOS SkySafari 3 app free today In-Reply-To: <941C79E3-82BA-4833-8CEF-B4AEADC8087B@softcon.com> References: <8FDE91B8-174E-419B-B8BB-95AB769423C7@mac.com> <941C79E3-82BA-4833-8CEF-B4AEADC8087B@softcon.com> Message-ID: <859DEF0E-8F50-4863-A04C-84E9041D544B@gmail.com> wo! Um? I just clicked the link and it was $14.99 lol! I'll try and click the link for the free version again. lol! it sounds nice as I love this kind of stuff. I used to watch the npr program, I think it was called star gaysers or something but it was quite neat. Thanks. On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Thank you Esther. Exactly the sort of thing I needed, and didn't even know it. > I'll be buying the full version. We do have a telescope that it can control, and I was hunting for a mac program that could handle the pointing of the scope for me. It's simple enough to tell my 9-year-old that Venus is the brightest star in the sky, so just point at it, and quite another to actually be able to point the telescope for him. This is perfect. Thank you very very much for this. > You're a treasure. > You have no idea how happy this makes me. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 06:10:30 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:10:30 -0700 Subject: iOS SkySafari 3 app free today In-Reply-To: <941C79E3-82BA-4833-8CEF-B4AEADC8087B@softcon.com> References: <8FDE91B8-174E-419B-B8BB-95AB769423C7@mac.com> <941C79E3-82BA-4833-8CEF-B4AEADC8087B@softcon.com> Message-ID: <1D07F443-8323-4905-BCDC-AE7202F1CC07@gmail.com> Just a bit of a note and I'm done. You have to click the one outside the group of items where it says fo rme visited then view in itunes. I didn't realise there are 2 versions of this thing. lol! just letting everyone know so they don't accidently buy the other one if they don't want to. Thanks and off to do something I have not done in years. On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Thank you Esther. Exactly the sort of thing I needed, and didn't even know it. > I'll be buying the full version. We do have a telescope that it can control, and I was hunting for a mac program that could handle the pointing of the scope for me. It's simple enough to tell my 9-year-old that Venus is the brightest star in the sky, so just point at it, and quite another to actually be able to point the telescope for him. This is perfect. Thank you very very much for this. > You're a treasure. > You have no idea how happy this makes me. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From krbarry at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 06:13:51 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:13:51 +0800 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <13CDE5C1-DEDF-4CBF-8F96-55CE5895B79E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4df991b4.4a01440a.5f00.6489@mx.google.com> I rather suspect that back in 2007 before the IPhone came c out, Apple and ATT&T made their contract. Nobody was sure how successful the iphone would be. It seems, ATT got exclusivity, but Apple got a large amount of control. Normally, and still today with Android phones among others, in the U.S. the carrier has way way too much control. Try getting the latest OS on your carrier locked phone with Android. You have to root it. Also, the handset makers put their own layer of crap on the the OS and then the carrier does the same. Apple leverage complete control over all of that. Hence, you can update the OS on an IPhone without trouble. There are no ATT crapware on an IPhone. People do seem to forget this; and how still, nobody else does this with a handset. So, ATT got the right to have the IPhone and, I presume, included with that, was that Apple agreed not to sell an unlocked version in the U.S. for the duration of the contract. Now, that is over. As for there being leftover stock of IPHone 4s, forget it. It's selling very very strongly and Apple has extremely good inventory control. No buildup of unsold products for them. Remember, Verizon could have had the IPhone back in 2007 but they were less willing to give on the evil front so it went to ATT instead. So, I strongly suspect we will have the option of unlocked iphones from here on out; including the new one when it arrives as exclusivity is over and Apple can do what it wants and what is best for them, and incidentally, us. So, in short, blame the carriers for not letting us have unlocked phones. Kevin At 08:50 AM 6/16/2011, you wrote: >I don't think the carriers have any choice. Apple's exclusive deal >with at&t is over, that's a deal they never should have made in my >opinion, but there are a few theories as to why apple is doing this. >First, they may want to sell their current stock, if the new iphone >5 is coming out later this year. Also, since most android phones can >be unlocked, they may have done it to even things a bit. The main >critisism Apple gets about the iphone, and IOS in general is that >they are too controlling with things. I do enjoy my iphone, but I >also like android because it does not have all the restrictions. >Actually, we're the last place to get unlocked iphones, they've been >sold in other countries for a while now. >On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:49 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > > Yeah 649 bucks or something. Yeah. Ouch! cool, but not for me. > I'm actually surprised the carriers are allowing this given the way > the us carriers do things but that's for another list. > > > > It is good though that we are seeing this. > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > > >> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from > the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. > >> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: > >> > > > > Sarah Alawami > > > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to > contact me my info is below. > > > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > > > website: http://music.marrie.org > > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 06:16:29 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:16:29 +0800 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <24DBAF90-C4DF-4EFC-A9DE-AF31CDB001C4@charter.net> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> <24DBAF90-C4DF-4EFC-A9DE-AF31CDB001C4@charter.net> Message-ID: <4df991bf.4a01440a.5f00.648e@mx.google.com> Only crazy people use roming abroad. it's cheaper to buy a whole new phone, even an expensive one, to use for traveling. At 08:56 AM 6/16/2011, you wrote: >If you travel abroad, that's where an unlocked phone is good, you >can get prepaid sim cards and avoid roaming costs, which I've heard >can be quite expensive. I've heard of at&t users getting bills in >the thousand dollar range. >On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:26 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > > > It's not a rip off. > > That is what an IPhone costs. > > If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a > subsidized price and you will more than pay it back in fees. > > The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, > phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly > extortion as a subsidized phone. > > Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. > > It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without > informing them you have an IPhone. > > Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their > unique frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. > > I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is what > wifi is for. > > And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! > > Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are > virtually unknown here. > > Kevin > > > > At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: > >> Hi all. > >> First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are > finally! But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone > 4 locked to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. > >> Just my thoughts. > >> Chat soon. > >> > >> > >> Chris Hallsworth > >> Sent from Thunderbird > >> > >> On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >>> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from > the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. > >>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM > >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >>> > >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >>> > >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > >>> > >>> > >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >>> > >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: > >>> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: > >> > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 07:50:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:50:06 -0700 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <4df991bf.4a01440a.5f00.648e@mx.google.com> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> <24DBAF90-C4DF-4EFC-A9DE-AF31CDB001C4@charter.net> <4df991bf.4a01440a.5f00.648e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <3689AD0A-0379-4B41-AAE0-900D110D5B9E@gmail.com> lol! Well that will give more blind people the opertunity to use iphones on there carrier of choice, I hope. I'm game with that. Tell see what happens. On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > Only crazy people use roming abroad. > it's cheaper to buy a whole new phone, even an expensive one, to use for traveling. > > At 08:56 AM 6/16/2011, you wrote: >> If you travel abroad, that's where an unlocked phone is good, you can get prepaid sim cards and avoid roaming costs, which I've heard can be quite expensive. I've heard of at&t users getting bills in the thousand dollar range. >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:26 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: >> >> > It's not a rip off. >> > That is what an IPhone costs. >> > If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a subsidized price and you will more than pay it back in fees. >> > The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly extortion as a subsidized phone. >> > Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. >> > It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without informing them you have an IPhone. >> > Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their unique frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. >> > I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is what wifi is for. >> > And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! >> > Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are virtually unknown here. >> > Kevin >> > >> > At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: >> >> Hi all. >> >> First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are finally! But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone 4 locked to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. >> >> Just my thoughts. >> >> Chat soon. >> >> >> >> >> >> Chris Hallsworth >> >> Sent from Thunderbird >> >> >> >> On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. >> >>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM >> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >>> >> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >>> >> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >>> >> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> > >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> > >> > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> > >> > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From w9fyi at mac-access.net Thu Jun 16 10:43:41 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 02:43:41 -0700 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <378BEAE4-FAB7-4B06-9D55-0634CF318872@charter.net> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> <378BEAE4-FAB7-4B06-9D55-0634CF318872@charter.net> Message-ID: <2F4B6597-955B-43A6-BBDE-48F0499B9C21@mac-access.net> If you look at this from a totally different angle, now states have a way by which they can offer an IOS device as a viable solution to a client who is totally blind. On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > It works fine with t-mobile, I use it all the time. True, the data speeds are not as fast, but they suffice. You're really not getting the phone cheaper when you get it from a carrier, sure, you pay less up front, but the carrier gets that money back over time, and sometimes double the amount. I would rather buy phones outright and not be tied to a particular carrier. In most other places, unlocked phones are more common, but in the U.S. people want it cheap and are willing to give up some flexibility to get it. It's good that Apple is selling these, took them much too long to offer it. > On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:26 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > >> It's not a rip off. >> That is what an IPhone costs. >> If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a subsidized price and you will more than pay it back in fees. >> The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly extortion as a subsidized phone. >> Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. >> It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without informing them you have an IPhone. >> Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their unique frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. >> I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is what wifi is for. >> And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! >> Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are virtually unknown here. >> Kevin >> >> At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: >>> Hi all. >>> First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are finally! But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone 4 locked to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. >>> Just my thoughts. >>> Chat soon. >>> >>> >>> Chris Hallsworth >>> Sent from Thunderbird >>> >>> On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. 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From mattchao at verizon.net Thu Jun 16 11:04:48 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 06:04:48 -0400 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <4df991bf.4a01440a.5f00.648e@mx.google.com> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> <24DBAF90-C4DF-4EFC-A9DE-AF31CDB001C4@charter.net> <4df991bf.4a01440a.5f00.648e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <0LMV00BPKO03N090@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> I've used unlocked phones overseas with no problem. Buy an in-country SIM and it's a lot cheaper. Tough with the iPhone, though, as it uses a MicroSIM card. Matthew Chao At 01:16 AM 6/16/2011, you wrote: >Only crazy people use roming abroad. >it's cheaper to buy a whole new phone, even an expensive one, to >use for traveling. > >At 08:56 AM 6/16/2011, you wrote: >>If you travel abroad, that's where an unlocked phone is good, you >>can get prepaid sim cards and avoid roaming costs, which I've heard >>can be quite expensive. I've heard of at&t users getting bills in >>the thousand dollar range. >>On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:26 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: >> >> > It's not a rip off. >> > That is what an IPhone costs. >> > If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a >> subsidized price and you will more than pay it back in fees. >> > The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, >> phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly >> extortion as a subsidized phone. >> > Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. >> > It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without >> informing them you have an IPhone. >> > Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their >> unique frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. >> > I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is >> what wifi is for. >> > And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! >> > Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are >> virtually unknown here. >> > Kevin >> > >> > At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: >> >> Hi all. >> >> First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are >> finally! But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an >> iPhone 4 locked to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. >> >> Just my thoughts. >> >> Chat soon. >> >> >> >> >> >> Chris Hallsworth >> >> Sent from Thunderbird >> >> >> >> On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked >> from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. >> >>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM >> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >>> >> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >>> >> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >> posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >>> >> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically >> by visiting the list website at: >> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >> posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically >> by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> > >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> > >> > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >> posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> > >> > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically >> by visiting the list website at: >> > >> >><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >>To reply to this post, please address your message to >>mac-access at mac-access.net >> >>You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >>posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >>The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>virus and worm-free! >> >>Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>visiting the list website at: >> > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >signature database 6212 (20110615) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com > > From krbarry at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 11:44:43 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:44:43 +0800 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <0LMV00BPKO03N090@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> <24DBAF90-C4DF-4EFC-A9DE-AF31CDB001C4@charter.net> <4df991bf.4a01440a.5f00.648e@mx.google.com> <0LMV00BPKO03N090@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <4df9dea1.4323440a.6f69.ffff8171@mx.google.com> Not so hard, a micro sim is just half of a mini sim. There are little sim choppers available that will convert a mini into a micro. Works just fine; although I've not done this myself I've heard from many that it works just fine. This means, that much of the current mini sim card is just useless plastic. At 06:04 PM 6/16/2011, you wrote: >I've used unlocked phones overseas with no problem. Buy an >in-country SIM and it's a lot cheaper. Tough with the iPhone, >though, as it uses a MicroSIM card. > >Matthew Chao > >At 01:16 AM 6/16/2011, you wrote: >>Only crazy people use roming abroad. >>it's cheaper to buy a whole new phone, even an expensive one, to >>use for traveling. >> >>At 08:56 AM 6/16/2011, you wrote: >>>If you travel abroad, that's where an unlocked phone is good, you >>>can get prepaid sim cards and avoid roaming costs, which I've >>>heard can be quite expensive. I've heard of at&t users getting >>>bills in the thousand dollar range. >>>On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:26 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: >>> >>> > It's not a rip off. >>> > That is what an IPhone costs. >>> > If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a >>> subsidized price and you will more than pay it back in fees. >>> > The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, >>> unsubsidized, phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the >>> same monthly extortion as a subsidized phone. >>> > Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. >>> > It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without >>> informing them you have an IPhone. >>> > Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their >>> unique frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. >>> > I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is >>> what wifi is for. >>> > And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! >>> > Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are >>> virtually unknown here. >>> > Kevin >>> > >>> > At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: >>> >> Hi all. >>> >> First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are >>> finally! But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an >>> iPhone 4 locked to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. >>> >> Just my thoughts. >>> >> Chat soon. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Chris Hallsworth >>> >> Sent from Thunderbird >>> >> >>> >> On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> >>> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked >>> from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. >>> >>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >>> posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options >>> periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >> >>> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >> >>> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >>> posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >> >>> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically >>> by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >>> > >>> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> > >>> > To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> > >>> > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >>> posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> > >>> > >>> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> > >>> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically >>> by visiting the list website at: >>> > >>> >>><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>>To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>>You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >>>posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>>The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>>Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>visiting the list website at: >>> >> >><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >>To reply to this post, please address your message to >>mac-access at mac-access.net >> >>You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >>posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >>The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>virus and worm-free! >> >>Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>visiting the list website at: >> >> >>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>signature database 6212 (20110615) __________ >> >>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >>http://www.eset.com >> > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 11:52:18 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:52:18 +0200 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <4df9dea1.4323440a.6f69.ffff8171@mx.google.com> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> <24DBAF90-C4DF-4EFC-A9DE-AF31CDB001C4@charter.net> <4df991bf.4a01440a.5f00.648e@mx.google.com> <0LMV00BPKO03N090@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> <4df9dea1.4323440a.6f69.ffff8171@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi! Well, can't you just cut the sim, out of interest? I remember the iPhone 3GS, and when I managed to get a hold of an iPhone 4, I just cut down the size and it works nicely and even gets along with my carrier. I've done this on multiple occasions. Of course, I've also not kept up with mini-sim, and micro-sim. Obviously, I'd assume that the micro is smaller, given its name, so I'd think you should be able to do a similar trick with a careful hand. Regards, Me On Jun 16, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > Not so hard, a micro sim is just half of a mini sim. > There are little sim choppers available that will convert a mini into a micro. > Works just fine; although I've not done this myself I've heard from many that it works just fine. > This means, that much of the current mini sim card is just useless plastic. > > At 06:04 PM 6/16/2011, you wrote: >> I've used unlocked phones overseas with no problem. Buy an in-country SIM and it's a lot cheaper. Tough with the iPhone, though, as it uses a MicroSIM card. >> >> Matthew Chao >> >> At 01:16 AM 6/16/2011, you wrote: >>> Only crazy people use roming abroad. >>> it's cheaper to buy a whole new phone, even an expensive one, to use for traveling. >>> >>> At 08:56 AM 6/16/2011, you wrote: >>>> If you travel abroad, that's where an unlocked phone is good, you can get prepaid sim cards and avoid roaming costs, which I've heard can be quite expensive. I've heard of at&t users getting bills in the thousand dollar range. >>>> On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:26 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: >>>> >>>> > It's not a rip off. >>>> > That is what an IPhone costs. >>>> > If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a subsidized price and you will more than pay it back in fees. >>>> > The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly extortion as a subsidized phone. >>>> > Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. >>>> > It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without informing them you have an IPhone. >>>> > Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their unique frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. >>>> > I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is what wifi is for. >>>> > And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! >>>> > Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are virtually unknown here. >>>> > Kevin >>>> > >>>> > At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: >>>> >> Hi all. >>>> >> First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are finally! But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone 4 locked to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. >>>> >> Just my thoughts. >>>> >> Chat soon. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Chris Hallsworth >>>> >> Sent from Thunderbird >>>> >> >>>> >> On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>> >>> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. >>>> >>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>> >>>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >> >>>> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >> >>>> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >> >>>> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> > >>>> > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> > >>>> > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> > >>>> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> > >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6212 (20110615) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Thu Jun 16 12:06:55 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:06:55 +1000 Subject: Skype has new window and Voice Over In-Reply-To: References: <42AF3578-72D7-420C-830B-0BA5FA57DF74@busboom.at> Message-ID: thanks dan smiles you just taught me something too smiles On 16/06/2011, at 8:01 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Hi mIke, Disabling visual notifications is the solution to stop this annoying behaviour. You can do this in skype preferences, under notifications. Hope this helps. > On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I am using Skype, version 5.1.0.914. Although getting used to this version took some time, I kind of like it, though there are certainly accessibility-related issues with which one must deal. >> >> One thing that I find rather annoying is the message that I constantly hear, no matter what application I am in, is: "Skype has new window." I could obviously unload Skype to make this message disappear, but I really like to have it running in the background. Is there some sort of setting in Voice Over that I could change or within Skype itself to make this message disappear? >> >> My best to all, >> >> Mike >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Thu Jun 16 12:33:04 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:33:04 +1000 Subject: Sleep with your iPhone? Now you can make it cuddly. In-Reply-To: <832B9919-C3CF-40B9-9AAE-96EE6A7DBB51@gmail.com> References: <832B9919-C3CF-40B9-9AAE-96EE6A7DBB51@gmail.com> Message-ID: how do we buy it? or is it not for sale yet? On 14/06/2011, at 6:20 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No comments on this one.. It is cute though. > > Sleep with your iPhone? Now you can make it cuddly. > > Oh Kickstarter, thank you very much for making this possible. That thing you see in the image above is ?the first mobile plush for iPhone and iPod touch.? It?s a stuffed owl called Swoop (because why not?), and you put your iPhone or iPod touch in a transparent and touch-friendly pouch in its gut, thus making it much more enjoyable to hug and cuddle your Apple mobile device. > > The Swoop project is said to be ?great for kids? on the product?s official website, but it might appeal to adults, too, since apparently a whole lot of us sleep with our devices anyway. This just means you can keep it even closer, and in fact even rest your face against it so that you never have to worry about missing a late-night email again. > > Swoop isn?t a reality just yet. The project?s creators still have a ways to go before they meet their modest $7,500 goal. A $25 pledge on Kickstarter qualifies as a pre-order, so if you feel like the only thing your iPhone is missing is slightly softer edges, this might be the project for you. > > http://onj.me/pj > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access...net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Thu Jun 16 12:38:44 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:38:44 +0200 Subject: Skype has new window and Voice Over In-Reply-To: References: <42AF3578-72D7-420C-830B-0BA5FA57DF74@busboom.at> Message-ID: <3DB06AED-8185-49EE-87D6-591ED0AD9F9F@busboom.at> Greetings to one and all, You guys are the best! Thanks to everyone who gave me this tip. It is so nice being able to have Skype running in the background, as it is doing right now, without having to hear that stupid message every twenty seconds or so. Again, heartfelt thanks to all of you! Mike On 16,Jun,2011, at 12:01 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Hi mIke, Disabling visual notifications is the solution to stop this annoying behaviour. You can do this in skype preferences, under notifications. Hope this helps. > On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I am using Skype, version 5.1.0.914. Although getting used to this version took some time, I kind of like it, though there are certainly accessibility-related issues with which one must deal. >> >> One thing that I find rather annoying is the message that I constantly hear, no matter what application I am in, is: "Skype has new window." I could obviously unload Skype to make this message disappear, but I really like to have it running in the background. Is there some sort of setting in Voice Over that I could change or within Skype itself to make this message disappear? >> >> My best to all, >> >> Mike >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Thu Jun 16 12:57:06 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:57:06 +0200 Subject: problem reading a manual In-Reply-To: <4df97790.c83be30a.46f9.45ba@mx.google.com> References: <4df97790.c83be30a.46f9.45ba@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello Michael, I frequently use Robobraille to convert PDF files, as well as other types of files to text. I have never encounter a file that was too large to convert, though in the case of a couple of larger files, I didn't get the results for two hours or so. However, it was well worth the wait. If you want to give the service a try, go to http://www.robobraille.org and see what you think. Kindest regards, Mike I don't know what you are referring to when you say that your file was "too large for BT," but Robobraille has never rejected a file that I have sent them, and I have sent files at least 3MB in size and received great results. On 16,Jun,2011, at 5:36 AM, michael weaver wrote: > a few people have suggested i-bank as a useable finance app. > however when i try to open the user manual in preview as it is a pdf document, i keep getting the error message relating to finder and the app and file keep getting closed. > i tried converting the manual to text via email but it is too large for bt to send to the email address that converts pdf to a text file. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 14:19:19 2011 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:19:19 +0100 Subject: Take control books Message-ID: Hi all, I today tried to take a read of some of my take control books yet seemed unable to open them. I was constantly offered the chance to open or save the epub files but this got somewhat repetitive without any movement forward. I tried opening the pdf versions yet these are apparently empty and have no content. So they may be corrupted. Big question is, how do I get hold of them again please? A step by step guide would be useful. Many thanks Roger From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 16 14:23:43 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:23:43 +1000 Subject: Take control books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DFA03DF.4070503@internode.on.net> I use the PDF versions which automatically open in Preview, once open you can interact with the text, copy to a text edit file for easier navigation if you prefer etc. On 16/06/2011 11:19 PM, Roger Woolgrove wrote: > Hi all, > > I today tried to take a read of some of my take control books yet seemed unable to open them. I was constantly offered the chance to open or save the epub files but this got somewhat repetitive without any movement forward. I tried opening the pdf versions yet these are apparently empty and have no content. So they may be corrupted. Big question is, how do I get hold of them again please? A step by step guide would be useful. > > Many thanks > > Roger > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 16 15:06:41 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:06:41 +0100 Subject: Take control books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Roger You can come to your bookshelf and download them at your leisure. I won't give you the link here because it's unique to you. If you don't have it please contact us off list. Lynne On 16 Jun 2011, at 14:19, Roger Woolgrove wrote: Hi all, I today tried to take a read of some of my take control books yet seemed unable to open them. I was constantly offered the chance to open or save the epub files but this got somewhat repetitive without any movement forward. I tried opening the pdf versions yet these are apparently empty and have no content. So they may be corrupted. Big question is, how do I get hold of them again please? A step by step guide would be useful. Many thanks Roger <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jj.turley at btinternet.com Thu Jun 16 15:53:26 2011 From: jj.turley at btinternet.com (John Turley) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:53:26 +0100 Subject: eBook Creator In-Reply-To: References: <58E84010EC9743969314158B70F32244@ACERLAPTOP><71C2C881-3DE1-4EAE-8FE8-420C234098A3@softcon.com><340A2C8A-8801-40C2-A7AD-CCC639198F0D@nc.rr.com> <76B3139D-0BCF-477C-B7EB-312BE45BE2A0@mac.com> <86F1F7026C374C909615A07F93527C89@ACERLAPTOP> Message-ID: Hi All Has anyone used or can recommend an accessible eBook creator? Many thanks. John T From chaas0217 at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 17:32:24 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:32:24 -0600 Subject: Sleep with your iPhone? Now you can make it cuddly. In-Reply-To: References: <832B9919-C3CF-40B9-9AAE-96EE6A7DBB51@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Krystal: From what I read, it's not available yet, but they may be accepting pre-orders on their site. Carolyn On Jun 16, 2011, at 5:33 AM, krystal watson wrote: > how do we buy it? or is it not for sale yet? > On 14/06/2011, at 6:20 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No comments on this one.. It is cute though. >> >> Sleep with your iPhone? Now you can make it cuddly. >> >> Oh Kickstarter, thank you very much for making this possible. That thing you see in the image above is ?the first mobile plush for iPhone and iPod touch.? It?s a stuffed owl called Swoop (because why not?), and you put your iPhone or iPod touch in a transparent and touch-friendly pouch in its gut, thus making it much more enjoyable to hug and cuddle your Apple mobile device. >> >> The Swoop project is said to be ?great for kids? on the product?s official website, but it might appeal to adults, too, since apparently a whole lot of us sleep with our devices anyway. This just means you can keep it even closer, and in fact even rest your face against it so that you never have to worry about missing a late-night email again. >> >> Swoop isn?t a reality just yet. The project?s creators still have a ways to go before they meet their modest $7,500 goal. A $25 pledge on Kickstarter qualifies as a pre-order, so if you feel like the only thing your iPhone is missing is slightly softer edges, this might be the project for you. >> >> http://onj.me/pj >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access...net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 17:52:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:52:18 -0700 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <2F4B6597-955B-43A6-BBDE-48F0499B9C21@mac-access.net> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <4DF85C80.9000705@googlemail.com> <4df85e9c.4a20440a.3e0c.13f4@mx.google.com> <378BEAE4-FAB7-4B06-9D55-0634CF318872@charter.net> <2F4B6597-955B-43A6-BBDE-48F0499B9C21@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Yeah I idn't think of that. Thanks for that. On Jun 16, 2011, at 2:43 AM, Justin Mann wrote: > If you look at this from a totally different angle, now states have a way by which they can offer an IOS device as a viable solution to a client who is totally blind. > On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> It works fine with t-mobile, I use it all the time. True, the data speeds are not as fast, but they suffice. You're really not getting the phone cheaper when you get it from a carrier, sure, you pay less up front, but the carrier gets that money back over time, and sometimes double the amount. I would rather buy phones outright and not be tied to a particular carrier. In most other places, unlocked phones are more common, but in the U.S. people want it cheap and are willing to give up some flexibility to get it. It's good that Apple is selling these, took them much too long to offer it. >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:26 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: >> >>> It's not a rip off. >>> That is what an IPhone costs. >>> If you get a contract with a carrier, you are getting a subsidized price and you will more than pay it back in fees. >>> The rippoff is when you try to use your unlocked, unsubsidized, phone on a carrier and they want you to pay the same monthly extortion as a subsidized phone. >>> Cell carriers are evil; at least in the U.S. >>> It might be possible to use it on AT&T or t-mobile without informing them you have an IPhone. >>> Of course, you won't have 3g speeds on T-mobile due to their unique frequency, but I think I can get along with slow data. >>> I don't intend to do any streaming over 3g; I figure that is what wifi is for. >>> And, to be able to use an IPhone abroad! >>> Currently, I'm in the Philippines and carrier locks are virtually unknown here. >>> Kevin >>> >>> At 03:17 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote: >>>> Hi all. >>>> First saw this on Twitter the other day. My comments are finally! But what a rip off! Most of us probably will get an iPhone 4 locked to a network or buy one unlocked second hand. >>>> Just my thoughts. >>>> Chat soon. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Hallsworth >>>> Sent from Thunderbird >>>> >>>> On 15/06/2011 05:34, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>>> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. 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If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 17:54:05 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:54:05 -0700 Subject: Deleting tracks from the iPhone In-Reply-To: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A71BAB@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A71BA0@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A71BAB@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: <0B96B034-3E47-46B1-A9C4-A8228F27E117@gmail.com> You just go to devices, your iphone's name and then go to the music radio button. Now uncheck the songs and artists you don't want. Take care. Oh and resync. On Jun 16, 2011, at 2:56 AM, Sunil Peck wrote: > Just to be clear, I'm trying to delete the tracks via iTunes. > > Sunil > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sunil Peck > Sent: 16 June 2011 10:51 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Deleting tracks from the iPhone > > Hi, > > I'm able to copy content to my iPhone from my Mac, but am unable to delete anything. I search for the artist whose tracks I want to remove from my iPhone, navigate to all the tracks and do cmd+a to select all of them, but the delete option is dimmed. > > Can anyone explain why that might be? > > Cheers > Sunil > > > > ________________________________ > Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by guarantee (number 520866). > Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. > Our VAT number is 805156939. > > > Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk > > This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the sender immediately. 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If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From n0oxy at charter.net Fri Jun 17 02:29:38 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:29:38 -0500 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: <4df991b4.4a01440a.5f00.6489@mx.google.com> References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <13CDE5C1-DEDF-4CBF-8F96-55CE5895B79E@gmail.com> <4df991b4.4a01440a.5f00.6489@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Yes, I would much rather pay more and have phones that are not controlled by the carrier. As far as android, I like the open nature of the platform, but I think all phones should start with regular android. If users want to install manufacturer nodifications, fine, but they should not be forced on users. While I do think Apple is too controlling, in this area they did the right thing On Jun 16, 2011, at 12:13 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > I rather suspect that back in 2007 before the IPhone came c out, Apple and ATT&T made their contract. > Nobody was sure how successful the iphone would be. > It seems, ATT got exclusivity, but Apple got a large amount of control. > Normally, and still today with Android phones among others, in the U.S. the carrier has way way too much control. > Try getting the latest OS on your carrier locked phone with Android. > You have to root it. > Also, the handset makers put their own layer of crap on the the OS and then the carrier does the same. > Apple leverage complete control over all of that. > Hence, you can update the OS on an IPhone without trouble. There are no ATT crapware on an IPhone. > People do seem to forget this; and how still, nobody else does this with a handset. > So, ATT got the right to have the IPhone and, I presume, included with that, was that Apple agreed not to sell an unlocked version in the U.S. for the duration of the contract. > Now, that is over. > As for there being leftover stock of IPHone 4s, forget it. It's selling very very strongly and Apple has extremely good inventory control. > No buildup of unsold products for them. > Remember, Verizon could have had the IPhone back in 2007 but they were less willing to give on the evil front so it went to ATT instead. > So, I strongly suspect we will have the option of unlocked iphones from here on out; including the new one when it arrives as exclusivity is over and Apple can do what it wants and what is best for them, and incidentally, us. > So, in short, blame the carriers for not letting us have unlocked phones. > Kevin > > At 08:50 AM 6/16/2011, you wrote: >> I don't think the carriers have any choice. Apple's exclusive deal with at&t is over, that's a deal they never should have made in my opinion, but there are a few theories as to why apple is doing this. First, they may want to sell their current stock, if the new iphone 5 is coming out later this year. Also, since most android phones can be unlocked, they may have done it to even things a bit. The main critisism Apple gets about the iphone, and IOS in general is that they are too controlling with things. I do enjoy my iphone, but I also like android because it does not have all the restrictions. Actually, we're the last place to get unlocked iphones, they've been sold in other countries for a while now. >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:49 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >> > Yeah 649 bucks or something. Yeah. Ouch! cool, but not for me. I'm actually surprised the carriers are allowing this given the way the us carriers do things but that's for another list. >> > >> > It is good though that we are seeing this. >> > On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> > >> >> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. >> >> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> > >> > Sarah Alawami >> > >> > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> > >> > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> > >> > website: http://music.marrie.org >> > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> > >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> > >> > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> > >> > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 03:50:46 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:50:46 +0800 Subject: unlocked iphone finally available in the United States In-Reply-To: References: <22117F29-8C95-4591-B955-C0A2B170251A@gmail.com> <93D137E0-576B-433A-8DBE-82D577041F92@charter.net> <13CDE5C1-DEDF-4CBF-8F96-55CE5895B79E@gmail.com> <4df991b4.4a01440a.5f00.6489@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4dfac11c.610c440a.0ebf.ffffc3e0@mx.google.com> Apple does exercise control; but think of it this way. It keeps other parties out i.e the carrier and any third party hardware makers. I much much prefer Apple to the hash of weird specs, odd overlays and just plain awful interactions you can get with Android. Not to mention Apple's superior accessability. Please, no flame wars on that one. Also, recall, Apple makes money on hardware. Google makes money on you as you are Google's product. That's why they have Android and why they want you to use their browser on other equipment and why they really want you to use their half baked cloud services. Kevin At 09:29 AM 6/17/2011, you wrote: >Yes, I would much rather pay more and have phones that are not >controlled by the carrier. As far as android, I like the open nature >of the platform, but I think all phones should start with regular >android. If users want to install manufacturer nodifications, fine, >but they should not be forced on users. While I do think Apple is >too controlling, in this area they did the right thing >On Jun 16, 2011, at 12:13 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > > > I rather suspect that back in 2007 before the IPhone came c > out, Apple and ATT&T made their contract. > > Nobody was sure how successful the iphone would be. > > It seems, ATT got exclusivity, but Apple got a large amount of control. > > Normally, and still today with Android phones among others, in > the U.S. the carrier has way way too much control. > > Try getting the latest OS on your carrier locked phone with Android. > > You have to root it. > > Also, the handset makers put their own layer of crap on the the > OS and then the carrier does the same. > > Apple leverage complete control over all of that. > > Hence, you can update the OS on an IPhone without trouble. There > are no ATT crapware on an IPhone. > > People do seem to forget this; and how still, nobody else does > this with a handset. > > So, ATT got the right to have the IPhone and, I presume, > included with that, was that Apple agreed not to sell an unlocked > version in the U.S. for the duration of the contract. > > Now, that is over. > > As for there being leftover stock of IPHone 4s, forget it. It's > selling very very strongly and Apple has extremely good inventory control. > > No buildup of unsold products for them. > > Remember, Verizon could have had the IPhone back in 2007 but > they were less willing to give on the evil front so it went to ATT instead. > > So, I strongly suspect we will have the option of > unlocked iphones from here on out; including the new one when it > arrives as exclusivity is over and Apple can do what it wants and > what is best for them, and incidentally, us. > > So, in short, blame the carriers for not letting us have unlocked phones. > > Kevin > > > > At 08:50 AM 6/16/2011, you wrote: > >> I don't think the carriers have any choice. Apple's exclusive > deal with at&t is over, that's a deal they never should have made > in my opinion, but there are a few theories as to why apple is > doing this. First, they may want to sell their current stock, if > the new iphone 5 is coming out later this year. Also, since most > android phones can be unlocked, they may have done it to even > things a bit. The main critisism Apple gets about the iphone, and > IOS in general is that they are too controlling with things. I do > enjoy my iphone, but I also like android because it does not have > all the restrictions. Actually, we're the last place to get > unlocked iphones, they've been sold in other countries for a while now. > >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:49 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> > >> > Yeah 649 bucks or something. Yeah. Ouch! cool, but not for me. > I'm actually surprised the carriers are allowing this given the way > the us carriers do things but that's for another list. > >> > > >> > It is good though that we are seeing this. > >> > On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hey everyone, Apple is finally selling the Iphone unlocked > from the on line Apple Store, it's about time. Here is the link. > >> >> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC603LL/A?mco=MjI4NTM2NTM > >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> >> > >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >> >> > >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> >> > >> >> Please remember to update your membership options > periodically by visiting the list website at: > >> >> > >> > > >> > Sarah Alawami > >> > > >> > If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to > contact me my info is below. > >> > > >> > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > >> > > >> > website: http://music.marrie.org > >> > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > >> > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > >> > > >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > > >> > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > >> > > >> > > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: > >> > > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: > >> > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 12:37:32 2011 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:37:32 +0100 Subject: Take control books References: Message-ID: Hi Lynne, Could you please post an email address that I may contact you about my bookshelf. I've checked everywhere I can think of and cannot find one. I'm sure I had one before but no idea what happened to it. Many thanks Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Take control books > Roger > > You can come to your bookshelf and download them at your leisure. I won't > give you the link here because it's unique to you. If you don't have it > please contact us off list. > > Lynne > > On 16 Jun 2011, at 14:19, Roger Woolgrove wrote: > > Hi all, > > I today tried to take a read of some of my take control books yet seemed > unable to open them. I was constantly offered the chance to open or save > the epub files but this got somewhat repetitive without any movement > forward. I tried opening the pdf versions yet these are apparently empty > and have no content. So they may be corrupted. Big question is, how do I > get hold of them again please? A step by step guide would be useful. > > Many thanks > > Roger > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 12:38:23 2011 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:38:23 +0100 Subject: Take control books References: <4DFA03DF.4070503@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <11FB6D504C024E44B120C1CD6582B08B@SamsungNC10> Hi Dane, Opening the pdf files as mentioned in my first revealed an empty file, ie. no content. Cheers much Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Take control books >I use the PDF versions which automatically open in Preview, once open you >can interact with the text, copy to a text edit file for easier navigation >if you prefer etc. > > > > On 16/06/2011 11:19 PM, Roger Woolgrove wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I today tried to take a read of some of my take control books yet seemed >> unable to open them. I was constantly offered the chance to open or save >> the epub files but this got somewhat repetitive without any movement >> forward. I tried opening the pdf versions yet these are apparently empty >> and have no content. So they may be corrupted. Big question is, how do >> I get hold of them again please? A step by step guide would be useful. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Roger >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jun 17 12:44:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:44:31 +0100 Subject: Take control books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52FF2B70-292D-44DB-8E3C-1DCDBDBBAEB3@mac-access.net> Hello Roger On 17 Jun 2011, at 12:37, Roger Woolgrove wrote: Could you please post an email address that I may contact you about my bookshelf. I've checked everywhere I can think of and cannot find one. I'm sure I had one before but no idea what Lynne From jj.turley at btinternet.com Fri Jun 17 14:45:18 2011 From: jj.turley at btinternet.com (John Turley) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:45:18 +0100 Subject: Accessible eBook Creator In-Reply-To: <52FF2B70-292D-44DB-8E3C-1DCDBDBBAEB3@mac-access.net> References: <52FF2B70-292D-44DB-8E3C-1DCDBDBBAEB3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi All Has anyone used or can recommend an accessible eBook creator package? Thanks in advance. John T From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jun 17 16:40:45 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:40:45 +0100 Subject: Accessible eBook Creator In-Reply-To: References: <52FF2B70-292D-44DB-8E3C-1DCDBDBBAEB3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <957FA663-2967-4860-969D-145EAD11DE1F@mac-access.net> Hi John, As far as i am aware, there are currently two solutions for the Mac, both of which require a fair bit of work on the creator's part. There's Open Office, which I believe handles this quite well, although I've never used it. There's also Pages, which I have in fact used. A while back, Anne Robertson posted instructions for creating EBooks using Pages. You'll find them in the archive under the subject "Converting books to EPUB" TC :) James On 17 Jun 2011, at 14:45, John Turley wrote: > Hi All > Has anyone used or can recommend an accessible eBook creator package? > > Thanks in advance. > > > John T > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jj.turley at btinternet.com Fri Jun 17 16:50:56 2011 From: jj.turley at btinternet.com (John Turley) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:50:56 +0100 Subject: Accessible eBook Creator In-Reply-To: <957FA663-2967-4860-969D-145EAD11DE1F@mac-access.net> References: <52FF2B70-292D-44DB-8E3C-1DCDBDBBAEB3@mac-access.net> <957FA663-2967-4860-969D-145EAD11DE1F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Excellent James as I amusing Pages. John T On 17 Jun 2011, at 16:40, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > Hi John, > As far as i am aware, there are currently two solutions for the Mac, both of which require a fair bit of work on the creator's part. There's Open Office, which I believe handles this quite well, although I've never used it. There's also Pages, which I have in fact used. A while back, Anne Robertson posted instructions for creating EBooks using Pages. You'll find them in the archive under the subject "Converting books to EPUB" > > TC :) > James > On 17 Jun 2011, at 14:45, John Turley wrote: > >> Hi All >> Has anyone used or can recommend an accessible eBook creator package? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> John T >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Fri Jun 17 18:17:30 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:17:30 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome; [Please Do Not Reply On List] Message-ID: <44D420C3-4D8B-437E-9D02-1460377674D7@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Geoff Waaler to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From moriond at mac.com Fri Jun 17 22:45:39 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:45:39 -1000 Subject: iOS SkySafari 3 app free today In-Reply-To: <1D07F443-8323-4905-BCDC-AE7202F1CC07@gmail.com> References: <8FDE91B8-174E-419B-B8BB-95AB769423C7@mac.com> <941C79E3-82BA-4833-8CEF-B4AEADC8087B@softcon.com> <1D07F443-8323-4905-BCDC-AE7202F1CC07@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78309B8B-CA60-4E72-951F-B71F763FD009@mac.com> Hi Sarah, Travis, and Others, You had me worried there, Sarah: I pasted in the link to Sky Safari 3 that I copied from iTunes. Here's the background for SkySafari 3. This is the new version of the program that was introduced in May, and there are actually three versions of the program. The Lite version is normally $2.99, and the "Plus" and "Pro" versions are normally $14.99 and $59.99. However, for the first month, they've dropped the prices to $0.99, $6.99, and $29.99 (until June 21st). In addition, because of the total lunar eclipse on June 15 (not visible from North America, and now past), the Lite version of this app is free from June 14th until June 18th. That was the one that meant to link. The main difference between the "Plus" and "Pro" versions that can both work with telescopes is the size of the database of stars, galaxies, asteroids, comets, etc. This can be quite hefty, because the "Pro" version is about as big as a Navigon app download (about 1.25 GB, I think). For Travis, I believe that Carina Software (or "Southern Stars" as they've renamed themselves) has a Mac OS X version of their SkySafari software awaiting approval with Apple for release through the Mac App Store. I've no idea when it would be approved, but they spoke of the end of June. Here's the deal with the sky viewing part of the app: on devices with a built-in compass (e.g., the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, and iPad 3G+WiFi in either first or second generation models, the app is supposed to sense where you're holding the device, and show you a picture of the sky and constellations in that direction. With the iPod Touch and iPad, there's no compass, so the SkySafari 3 app senses the elevation at which you're holding your device (e.g., looking straight overhead, or facing straight ahead towards the horizon, or at an elevation of 45 degrees, half way between the two cases). However, the app can't use a built-in compass to tell whether you're facing north, east, south or west; you have to set that up before you use it, or turn around until what you're shown on the display matches what you see in the Sky (in the case of your son looking for Venus). The easy way to get a reference direction is to use the Sunset direction as west. In fact, there are compass apps like "Sun Compass for iPad, iPod Touch, and iPhone" that will let you set up a compass based on the Sun's direction as well. I posted about this at AppleVis with accessibility comments. Tried it out with an iPad that did have a built-in compass, but Travis' son could use it to set up compass bearing. More probably, he could just set his compass bearing by using the position of the Sun (at sunset) or Moon (if visible) in SkySafari 3. I haven't used these sky viewing functions (smile) but they should be easy to set up. For everyone else, you can just use the information parts of the app under search. Just a tip that if you end up following a link that brings up an image, or an image plus description, and there doesn't seem to be a straight forward way to get back from that screen, just double tap in the center of the screen, and you'll be moved back. This is described in the more extensive write-up of Sky Safari that I linked to at the AppleVis site, but since that was only for the "App Deals" page, you might not find it. And I'm very pleased this app is useful to Travis. HTH. Cheers, Esther Sarah wrote: > Just a bit of a note and I'm done. > You have to click the one outside the group of items where it says fo rme visited then view in itunes. I didn't realise there are 2 versions of this thing. lol! just letting everyone know so they don't accidently buy the other one if they don't want to. > > Thanks and off to do something I have not done in years. > On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> Thank you Esther. Exactly the sort of thing I needed, and didn't even know it. >> I'll be buying the full version. We do have a telescope that it can control, and I was hunting for a mac program that could handle the pointing of the scope for me. It's simple enough to tell my 9-year-old that Venus is the brightest star in the sky, so just point at it, and quite another to actually be able to point the telescope for him. This is perfect. Thank you very very much for this. >> You're a treasure. >> You have no idea how happy this makes me. From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 23:19:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:19:06 -0700 Subject: iOS SkySafari 3 app free today In-Reply-To: <78309B8B-CA60-4E72-951F-B71F763FD009@mac.com> References: <8FDE91B8-174E-419B-B8BB-95AB769423C7@mac.com> <941C79E3-82BA-4833-8CEF-B4AEADC8087B@softcon.com> <1D07F443-8323-4905-BCDC-AE7202F1CC07@gmail.com> <78309B8B-CA60-4E72-951F-B71F763FD009@mac.com> Message-ID: <1B856AE4-D598-4F6B-9781-66E5456E1DD2@gmail.com> yeah it scared me to. I clicked the wrong link and the page looked a bit odd but i did find and will use the sky safari when I'm in a place with no lights lol! On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, Travis, and Others, > > You had me worried there, Sarah: I pasted in the link to Sky Safari 3 that I copied from iTunes. Here's the background for SkySafari 3. This is the new version of the program that was introduced in May, and there are actually three versions of the program. The Lite version is normally $2.99, and the "Plus" and "Pro" versions are normally $14.99 and $59.99. However, for the first month, they've dropped the prices to $0.99, $6.99, and $29.99 (until June 21st). In addition, because of the total lunar eclipse on June 15 (not visible from North America, and now past), the Lite version of this app is free from June 14th until June 18th. That was the one that meant to link. > > The main difference between the "Plus" and "Pro" versions that can both work with telescopes is the size of the database of stars, galaxies, asteroids, comets, etc. This can be quite hefty, because the "Pro" version is about as big as a Navigon app download (about 1.25 GB, I think). > > For Travis, I believe that Carina Software (or "Southern Stars" as they've renamed themselves) has a Mac OS X version of their SkySafari software awaiting approval with Apple for release through the Mac App Store. I've no idea when it would be approved, but they spoke of the end of June. Here's the deal with the sky viewing part of the app: on devices with a built-in compass (e.g., the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, and iPad 3G+WiFi in either first or second generation models, the app is supposed to sense where you're holding the device, and show you a picture of the sky and constellations in that direction. With the iPod Touch and iPad, there's no compass, so the SkySafari 3 app senses the elevation at which you're holding your device (e.g., looking straight overhead, or facing straight ahead towards the horizon, or at an elevation of 45 degrees, half way between the two cases). However, the app can't use a built-in compass to tell whether you're facing north, east, south or west > ; you have to set that up before you use it, or turn around until what you're shown on the display matches what you see in the Sky (in the case of your son looking for Venus). The easy way to get a reference direction is to use the Sunset direction as west. In fact, there are compass apps like "Sun Compass for iPad, iPod Touch, and iPhone" that will let you set up a compass based on the Sun's direction as well. I posted about this at AppleVis with accessibility comments. Tried it out with an iPad that did have a built-in compass, but Travis' son could use it to set up compass bearing. More probably, he could just set his compass bearing by using the position of the Sun (at sunset) or Moon (if visible) in SkySafari 3. I haven't used these sky viewing functions (smile) but they should be easy to set up. For everyone else, you can just use the information parts of the app under search. Just a tip that if you end up following a link that brings up an image, or an image > plus description, and there doesn't seem to be a straight forward way to get back from that screen, just double tap in the center of the screen, and you'll be moved back. This is described in the more extensive write-up of Sky Safari that I linked to at the AppleVis site, but since that was only for the "App Deals" page, you might not find it. > > And I'm very pleased this app is useful to Travis. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > Sarah wrote: >> Just a bit of a note and I'm done. >> You have to click the one outside the group of items where it says fo rme visited then view in itunes. I didn't realise there are 2 versions of this thing. lol! just letting everyone know so they don't accidently buy the other one if they don't want to. >> >> Thanks and off to do something I have not done in years. >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: >> >>> Thank you Esther. Exactly the sort of thing I needed, and didn't even know it. >>> I'll be buying the full version. We do have a telescope that it can control, and I was hunting for a mac program that could handle the pointing of the scope for me. It's simple enough to tell my 9-year-old that Venus is the brightest star in the sky, so just point at it, and quite another to actually be able to point the telescope for him. This is perfect. Thank you very very much for this. >>> You're a treasure. >>> You have no idea how happy this makes me. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 09:51:31 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:51:31 +0100 Subject: Accessible app for downloading from BBC iPlayer In-Reply-To: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A718C4@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A718C4@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: i need this too, smile On 15 Jun 2011, at 09:41, Sunil Peck wrote: > Hi, > > Is anybody in the UK using an app which lets you download programmes from iPlayer? I'm particularly interested in audio described TV programmes. I was using I think it's called Iplayer Downloader. But in the last few weeks the programmes available on iPlayer are not downloadable. > > Cheers > Sunil > > > > ________________________________ > Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by > guarantee (number 520866). > Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. > Our VAT number is 805156939. > > > Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk > > This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential > and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been > addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this > message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are > required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the > sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, > or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use > of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the > intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with > it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the > views of Scope. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sat Jun 18 13:15:12 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 08:15:12 -0400 Subject: Removing an external drive Message-ID: <83E2FFD6-BEF8-45C9-B25D-503051A1FEA2@nc.rr.com> If I want to disconnect, or just turn off, my external drive, is there a safely remove procedure on the mac? Or can I just unplug or turn it off once I've made sure it is not in the process of transferring a file or anything like that. Thanks. From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jun 18 13:37:29 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (JAMES AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:37:29 +0100 Subject: Removing an external drive In-Reply-To: <83E2FFD6-BEF8-45C9-B25D-503051A1FEA2@nc.rr.com> References: <83E2FFD6-BEF8-45C9-B25D-503051A1FEA2@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <1A905E34-FDFC-4249-8D78-2975EA9F21FE@mac-access.net> Hi Tracy I think the best way to avoid any undesirable damage to your External HD is to press Command E when you are on its icon. This will safely eject it, allowing you to then unplug it or turn it off. If alternatively, you simply unplug it, Mac OS X will throw up a polite message telling you that not ejecting the disk could result in data loss. HTH TC :) James On 18 Jun 2011, at 13:15, Tracy Duffy wrote: > If I want to disconnect, or just turn off, my external drive, is there a safely remove procedure on the mac? Or can I just unplug or turn it off once I've made sure it is not in the process of transferring a file or anything like that. Thanks. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Jun 18 14:34:01 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 08:34:01 -0500 Subject: Removing an external drive In-Reply-To: <83E2FFD6-BEF8-45C9-B25D-503051A1FEA2@nc.rr.com> References: <83E2FFD6-BEF8-45C9-B25D-503051A1FEA2@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: It's best to eject the drive first, highlight it on your desktop and press command e to eject it. On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:15 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > If I want to disconnect, or just turn off, my external drive, is there a safely remove procedure on the mac? Or can I just unplug or turn it off once I've made sure it is not in the process of transferring a file or anything like that. Thanks. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ian456 at me.com Sat Jun 18 15:16:36 2011 From: ian456 at me.com (Ian Robinson) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:16:36 +0100 Subject: Accessible app for downloading from BBC iPlayer In-Reply-To: References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A718C4@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: <1E7DA3F0-9F67-4336-9ED4-DA5138A9E386@me.com> Hi All, The only app I know of is at: http://snapshotmedia.co.uk/projects/iplayer-downloader HTH. Ian On 18 Jun 2011, at 09:51, william lomas wrote: > i need this too, smile > > On 15 Jun 2011, at 09:41, Sunil Peck wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is anybody in the UK using an app which lets you download programmes from iPlayer? I'm particularly interested in audio described TV programmes. I was using I think it's called Iplayer Downloader. But in the last few weeks the programmes available on iPlayer are not downloadable. >> >> Cheers >> Sunil >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by >> guarantee (number 520866). >> Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. >> Our VAT number is 805156939. >> >> >> Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk >> >> This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential >> and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been >> addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or >> privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this >> message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are >> required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the >> sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, >> or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use >> of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the >> intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. >> >> Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with >> it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the >> views of Scope. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 15:26:10 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:26:10 +0100 Subject: Accessible app for downloading from BBC iPlayer In-Reply-To: <1E7DA3F0-9F67-4336-9ED4-DA5138A9E386@me.com> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A718C4@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> <1E7DA3F0-9F67-4336-9ED4-DA5138A9E386@me.com> Message-ID: <0EA85AAF-AF26-40A3-AFE3-9BB89F05385E@gmail.com> does the new version of this then let us download? On 18 Jun 2011, at 15:16, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi All, > > The only app I know of is at: > > http://snapshotmedia.co.uk/projects/iplayer-downloader > > HTH. > > Ian > > On 18 Jun 2011, at 09:51, william lomas wrote: > >> i need this too, smile >> >> On 15 Jun 2011, at 09:41, Sunil Peck wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is anybody in the UK using an app which lets you download programmes from iPlayer? I'm particularly interested in audio described TV programmes. I was using I think it's called Iplayer Downloader. But in the last few weeks the programmes available on iPlayer are not downloadable. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Sunil >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by >>> guarantee (number 520866). >>> Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. >>> Our VAT number is 805156939. >>> >>> >>> Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk >>> >>> This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential >>> and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been >>> addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or >>> privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this >>> message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are >>> required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the >>> sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, >>> or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use >>> of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the >>> intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. >>> >>> Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with >>> it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the >>> views of Scope. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Sat Jun 18 15:36:37 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:36:37 +0100 Subject: Take Control Book Clients; Please Read! Message-ID: <761FFDD1-089B-4773-B2C1-65C6D7DEBAAA@mac-access.net> Hello everybody If you are one of those who has a bookshelf here for your Take Control books, in the event that you should lose your log-in details, we now have an easy way for you to retrieve it 24/7 without the need to contact us. If this includes you, please save this message for your reference. In order to recover lost passwords and user ID, please point a web browser to the following URL: Once logged in, use the "Forgot Password" link and enter the requested data. Your credentials will be sent to the address we have on file for you. Please note; if you change your email address you will need to contact us in advance. If you have any questions please use the support address. Note also that the assistant list controllers have no involvement in this project ad, as such, will not be able to assist you. Lynne ============================== Gordon & Lynne Smith We're a small organisation; please allow us some time to respond to your support requests. We will endeavour to do so in as timely a manner as possible. You may find our website at and our WebLog at ------------------------------ From ian456 at me.com Sat Jun 18 15:41:40 2011 From: ian456 at me.com (Ian Robinson) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:41:40 +0100 Subject: Accessible app for downloading from BBC iPlayer In-Reply-To: <0EA85AAF-AF26-40A3-AFE3-9BB89F05385E@gmail.com> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0A718C4@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> <1E7DA3F0-9F67-4336-9ED4-DA5138A9E386@me.com> <0EA85AAF-AF26-40A3-AFE3-9BB89F05385E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Will, I used it once a couple of months ago and was able to download a Radio 4 programme. For some reason I couldn't get the file to play after downloading, so used Audio Book Binder to convert it to an m4b file and add it to ITunes. I've no idea if the app has altered since I used it. regards. Ian On 18 Jun 2011, at 15:26, william lomas wrote: > does the new version of this then let us download? > > On 18 Jun 2011, at 15:16, Ian Robinson wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> The only app I know of is at: >> >> http://snapshotmedia.co.uk/projects/iplayer-downloader >> >> HTH. >> >> Ian >> >> On 18 Jun 2011, at 09:51, william lomas wrote: >> >>> i need this too, smile >>> >>> On 15 Jun 2011, at 09:41, Sunil Peck wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Is anybody in the UK using an app which lets you download programmes from iPlayer? I'm particularly interested in audio described TV programmes. I was using I think it's called Iplayer Downloader. But in the last few weeks the programmes available on iPlayer are not downloadable. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Sunil >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by >>>> guarantee (number 520866). >>>> Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. >>>> Our VAT number is 805156939. >>>> >>>> >>>> Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk >>>> >>>> This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential >>>> and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been >>>> addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or >>>> privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this >>>> message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are >>>> required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the >>>> sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, >>>> or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use >>>> of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the >>>> intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. >>>> >>>> Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with >>>> it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the >>>> views of Scope. >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 18 15:58:47 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:58:47 +1000 Subject: Take Control Book Clients; Please Read! In-Reply-To: <761FFDD1-089B-4773-B2C1-65C6D7DEBAAA@mac-access.net> References: <761FFDD1-089B-4773-B2C1-65C6D7DEBAAA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4DFCBD27.6080809@internode.on.net> I must enter my bookshelf details into the highly useful piece of software called 1 Password and see if that will work . On 19/06/2011 12:36 AM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > If you are one of those who has a bookshelf here for your Take Control books, in the event that you should lose your log-in details, we now have an easy way for you to retrieve it 24/7 without the need to contact us. If this includes you, please save this message for your reference. > > In order to recover lost passwords and user ID, please point a web browser to the following URL: > > > Once logged in, use the "Forgot Password" link and enter the requested data. Your credentials will be sent to the address we have on file for you. > > Please note; if you change your email address you will need to contact us in advance. > > If you have any questions please use the support address. Note also that the assistant list controllers have no involvement in this project ad, as such, will not be able to assist you. > > Lynne > > > ============================== > > Gordon& Lynne Smith > > > We're a small organisation; please allow us some time to respond to your support requests. We will endeavour to do so in as timely a manner as possible. > > You may find our website at and our WebLog at > > ------------------------------ > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jun 18 16:33:44 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:33:44 +0100 Subject: Take Control Book Clients; Please Read! In-Reply-To: <4DFCBD27.6080809@internode.on.net> References: <761FFDD1-089B-4773-B2C1-65C6D7DEBAAA@mac-access.net> <4DFCBD27.6080809@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <015E8648-BA8A-4886-8B48-0A0847049D59@mac-access.net> Hello Dane On 18 Jun 2011, at 15:58, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? I must enter my bookshelf details into the highly useful piece of software called 1 Password and see if that will work . Before you do why don't you visit the bookshelf ebsite and change your password? If people would use the facilities we offer it would save them, and us, quite a bit of work. I can only presume that people only use the direct links I provide and don' look around the site. ;-) That isn't a criticism of anybody, of course, but it would be very helpful. Lynne From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 16:58:51 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:58:51 -0400 Subject: Weekend promo on DVD Remaster. Message-ID: <7F5CEBA0-1EA8-4780-91C9-963FDBB0DF0F@gmail.com> Greetings all, I don't know if this is applicable to all Mac app stores world wide, but in the US, DVD Remaster version 7 which regularly sells for $50 is on sale this weekend for $5. Information in the macvisionaries mail archive indicates that the developer worked with voiceOver users so as to improve accessibility even though the app was already very usable. Though I own this app, I am embarrassed to confess that I can not speak to this from personal experience; I grabbed DR7 a few months ago when the Macupdate promo site featured it for 50% off, but have not yet played with it; should have waited :). This brings me to a question. When an app alters their licensing algorithm and migrates to the app store, will this affect upgrade pricing? The announcement letter stated that they are offering this promotion because the app store can not ascertain whether a previous version is registered, and they wanted to offer an upgrade path to all existing customers. Once moved to the app store, can a vender offer upgrade pricing? If so, I would assume that those who are registered under the old licensing algorithm would be SOL? My question then is whether those who already have the current version should consider repurchasing at this price so as to preserve an upgrade path? Best regards. Geoff From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 18 18:40:16 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 03:40:16 +1000 Subject: Notesy and deleting notes Message-ID: Hi! I'm obviously missing something somewhere, can't find where or how to delete a note with Notesy, can anyone help? Naturally I can go to the computer and delete the note I want to trash from the notesy folder under my Dropbox but that's hardly helpful when I'm on the move. Sent from my iPad From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jun 18 19:05:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:05:12 +0100 Subject: Weekend promo on DVD Remaster. In-Reply-To: <7F5CEBA0-1EA8-4780-91C9-963FDBB0DF0F@gmail.com> References: <7F5CEBA0-1EA8-4780-91C9-963FDBB0DF0F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Geoff Just for the record, it was Gordon who worked with Antonine and the others at Metakine to enable VoiceOver accessibility. So mac Visionaries aught to give credit to the right person. Lynne Just for the record, On 18 Jun 2011, at 16:58, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings all, I don't know if this is applicable to all Mac app stores world wide, but in the US, DVD Remaster version 7 which regularly sells for $50 is on sale this weekend for $5. Information in the macvisionaries mail archive indicates that the developer worked with voiceOver users so as to improve accessibility even though the app was already very usable. Though I own this app, I am embarrassed to confess that I can not speak to this from personal experience; I grabbed DR7 a few months ago when the Macupdate promo site featured it for 50% off, but have not yet played with it; should have waited :). This brings me to a question. When an app alters their licensing algorithm and migrates to the app store, will this affect upgrade pricing? The announcement letter stated that they are offering this promotion because the app store can not ascertain whether a previous version is registered, and they wanted to offer an upgrade path to all existing customers. Once moved to the app store, can a vender offer upgrade pricing? If so, I would assume that those who are registered under the old licensing algorithm would be SOL? My question then is whether those who already have the current version should consider repurchasing at this price so as to preserve an upgrade path? Best regards. Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 19:09:45 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:09:45 +0200 Subject: Weekend promo on DVD Remaster. In-Reply-To: References: <7F5CEBA0-1EA8-4780-91C9-963FDBB0DF0F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D8F4D09-1C94-4814-B4B8-C91A4700BE9D@gmail.com> Hi! Unfortunately, this is another app that doesn't seem to be accessible everywhere. I just checked my store, and there's no mention of DVD Remaster. I'm guessing that, since this is sort of an introductory pricing on the Mac App Store, that price won't be available on their site. Regards, Nic On Jun 18, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Geoff > > Just for the record, it was Gordon who worked with Antonine and the others at Metakine to enable VoiceOver accessibility. So mac Visionaries aught to give credit to the right person. > > Lynne > > Just for the record, > On 18 Jun 2011, at 16:58, Geoff Waaler wrote: > > Greetings all, > > I don't know if this is applicable to all Mac app stores world wide, but in the US, DVD Remaster version 7 which regularly sells for $50 is on sale this weekend for $5. > > Information in the macvisionaries mail archive indicates that the developer worked with voiceOver users so as to improve accessibility even though the app was already very usable. Though I own this app, I am embarrassed to confess that I can not speak to this from personal experience; I grabbed DR7 a few months ago when the Macupdate promo site featured it for 50% off, but have not yet played with it; should have waited :). > > This brings me to a question. When an app alters their licensing algorithm and migrates to the app store, will this affect upgrade pricing? The announcement letter stated that they are offering this promotion because the app store can not ascertain whether a previous version is registered, and they wanted to offer an upgrade path to all existing customers. Once moved to the app store, can a vender offer upgrade pricing? If so, I would assume that those who are registered under the old licensing algorithm would be SOL? My question then is whether those who already have the current version should consider repurchasing at this price so as to preserve an upgrade path? > > Best regards. > Geoff > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sat Jun 18 19:23:56 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:23:56 -0400 Subject: Using facebook on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> Message-ID: <05D5410B-CBDE-4813-A7AB-7A0533A06A20@nc.rr.com> Thank you. That may be helpful. What I really need to know is this. Where do I click to post a comment to someone's status, and then how do I get back to where I was reading all the status lines? Thanks. On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: > Hi tracy. I use the main site with Voceover with no problems. Sometimes things don't quite behave as expected but once you get used to how the page behaves, it works great. The one thing that I will say, is this. When your writing a status message, the easiest way to go is to set your roter to heading navigation, tthen press 2. This will take you tto your news feed. If you then press Vo CMD J, you'll be taken to the edit box for writing statuss. Hope that this helps. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 13/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 19:33:54 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:33:54 -0700 Subject: cmd shift 3 does not take a screenshot Message-ID: <14A61DC7-78D2-47AB-A441-1C0D9BE238A6@gmail.com> Hello to all. I need to take a screenshot of something and cmd shift 3 dings. I've checked for all keyboard conflicts but don't see anything. reseting the keyboard shortcut defaults does nothing either. so what can I do? I really need to get this one for a project. Thanks. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sat Jun 18 19:38:34 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:38:34 -0400 Subject: Signatures in Mil In-Reply-To: <7F1CEB61-3270-4904-ADA4-722B15D9FE59@mac-access.net> References: <7F1CEB61-3270-4904-ADA4-722B15D9FE59@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I wish someone would explain to me how to get the signature working in the first place. I've gone in and set it several times, but I'm obviously missing something as no signature is appearing on my messages. On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all > > Firstly, is it possible to junk a load of old signatures in Mail which you no longer want to use? Secondly, how do you go about assigning these to a specific account? It's been so long that I can't remember how I did it years ago, and it just doesn't seem to be too intuitive. > > Gordon > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 19:48:33 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:48:33 +0200 Subject: Weekend promo on DVD Remaster. In-Reply-To: <4D8F4D09-1C94-4814-B4B8-C91A4700BE9D@gmail.com> References: <7F5CEBA0-1EA8-4780-91C9-963FDBB0DF0F@gmail.com> <4D8F4D09-1C94-4814-B4B8-C91A4700BE9D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Nicolai. Yes you can buy it here in Denmark too, the price is 30 dkk. Best regards Annie. Best regards Annie. On Jun 18, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > Unfortunately, this is another app that doesn't seem to be accessible everywhere. I just checked my store, and there's no mention of DVD Remaster. I'm guessing that, since this is sort of an introductory pricing on the Mac App Store, that price won't be available on their site. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jun 18, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Geoff >> >> Just for the record, it was Gordon who worked with Antonine and the others at Metakine to enable VoiceOver accessibility. So mac Visionaries aught to give credit to the right person. >> >> Lynne >> >> Just for the record, >> On 18 Jun 2011, at 16:58, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >> Greetings all, >> >> I don't know if this is applicable to all Mac app stores world wide, but in the US, DVD Remaster version 7 which regularly sells for $50 is on sale this weekend for $5. >> >> Information in the macvisionaries mail archive indicates that the developer worked with voiceOver users so as to improve accessibility even though the app was already very usable. Though I own this app, I am embarrassed to confess that I can not speak to this from personal experience; I grabbed DR7 a few months ago when the Macupdate promo site featured it for 50% off, but have not yet played with it; should have waited :). >> >> This brings me to a question. When an app alters their licensing algorithm and migrates to the app store, will this affect upgrade pricing? The announcement letter stated that they are offering this promotion because the app store can not ascertain whether a previous version is registered, and they wanted to offer an upgrade path to all existing customers. Once moved to the app store, can a vender offer upgrade pricing? If so, I would assume that those who are registered under the old licensing algorithm would be SOL? My question then is whether those who already have the current version should consider repurchasing at this price so as to preserve an upgrade path? >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 19:50:31 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:50:31 +0200 Subject: Weekend promo on DVD Remaster. In-Reply-To: References: <7F5CEBA0-1EA8-4780-91C9-963FDBB0DF0F@gmail.com> <4D8F4D09-1C94-4814-B4B8-C91A4700BE9D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7AC78998-E34C-4B06-8D71-C1C02E09AA87@gmail.com> Hi Annie, I already tried. For some reason, I wasn't able to find it as soon as this email was posted, but either I did something wrong which is very possible, or it's one of those international things. It wouldn't be the first time those app distribution certificates, iTunes Connect and App Loader are being funky. At any rate, I managed to get a hold of it now. :) Thanks. Regards, Nic On Jun 18, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Nicolai. > > Yes you can buy it here in Denmark too, the price is 30 dkk. > > Best regards Annie. > Best regards Annie. > On Jun 18, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Unfortunately, this is another app that doesn't seem to be accessible everywhere. I just checked my store, and there's no mention of DVD Remaster. I'm guessing that, since this is sort of an introductory pricing on the Mac App Store, that price won't be available on their site. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jun 18, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff >>> >>> Just for the record, it was Gordon who worked with Antonine and the others at Metakine to enable VoiceOver accessibility. So mac Visionaries aught to give credit to the right person. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> Just for the record, >>> On 18 Jun 2011, at 16:58, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>> Greetings all, >>> >>> I don't know if this is applicable to all Mac app stores world wide, but in the US, DVD Remaster version 7 which regularly sells for $50 is on sale this weekend for $5. >>> >>> Information in the macvisionaries mail archive indicates that the developer worked with voiceOver users so as to improve accessibility even though the app was already very usable. Though I own this app, I am embarrassed to confess that I can not speak to this from personal experience; I grabbed DR7 a few months ago when the Macupdate promo site featured it for 50% off, but have not yet played with it; should have waited :). >>> >>> This brings me to a question. When an app alters their licensing algorithm and migrates to the app store, will this affect upgrade pricing? The announcement letter stated that they are offering this promotion because the app store can not ascertain whether a previous version is registered, and they wanted to offer an upgrade path to all existing customers. Once moved to the app store, can a vender offer upgrade pricing? If so, I would assume that those who are registered under the old licensing algorithm would be SOL? My question then is whether those who already have the current version should consider repurchasing at this price so as to preserve an upgrade path? >>> >>> Best regards. >>> Geoff >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From phonerossy at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 20:38:42 2011 From: phonerossy at gmail.com (rossy) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:38:42 +0200 Subject: new gps app per iphone and ipad Message-ID: <8EEAF6B9-7B66-42EA-8AFB-AE628DAD827D@gmail.com> good evening all , here iis a new gps app , where finally we can read the map wigh voiceover . *** Ariadne GPS is now available on the App Store. http://www.ariadnegps.eu - info at ariadnegps.eu. Yet another app that uses the GPS! Maybe not. There are some innovative aspects in this application that are worth mentioning. The app offers you the possibility to know your position at any time and monitor it while walking, you can decide to be informed about what changes along the way, street numbers, street names, etc.. There is also the option to save your favorite points and to be alerted, when you approach one of them, for example when you are on a train, bus, etc... using sound, vibration, and even voice, if you are using VoiceOver. Furthermore, there is an interesting and innovative feature, namely the ability to explore the map. The same way a person who sees the map has a whole view of what surrounds them or a view of a specific location, those using VoiceOver can now have an idea of the conformation of a certain area by tapping the map with their finger. Moving your finger on the map, you can hear the street names and numbers pronounced by VoiceOver and make yourself a mental map of the area. This application is fully accessible and provides access to details that are normally unavailable to people who use the speech synthesizer and can therefore be particularly useful for the blind and visually impaired. The app uses the GPS and a remote service, which at the moment is Google. This means that some information may be inaccurate or unavailable at certain times (depending on the gps signal, the network and server availability). However, we are working to improve this information and functionality also using different services and mechanisms. The app is localized in English, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian, Dutch and Danish. For more details you can visit the app web site at http://www.ariadnegps.eu. To give us suggestions, report problems, request information, please send an email to info at ariadnegps.eu. The app is available at: http://itunes.apple.com/app/ariadne-gps/id441063072?mt=8 or by looking for Ariadne GPS in your national App Store *** From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 20:51:33 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:51:33 +0200 Subject: new gps app per iphone and ipad In-Reply-To: <8EEAF6B9-7B66-42EA-8AFB-AE628DAD827D@gmail.com> References: <8EEAF6B9-7B66-42EA-8AFB-AE628DAD827D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D632D3C-E35C-45FD-A3EB-6DF2F5CEDBDB@gmail.com> Hi, That actually sounds nice. Considering the price, it doesn't sound bad at all. I'm going to give this a chance and see how it works out, even though I'm currently using Navigon. I like the part about the map as well. It even mentions VoiceOver, and I think it's fantastic that this is publicly available information. Regards, Nic On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:38 PM, rossy wrote: > good evening all , > here iis a new gps app , where finally we can read the map wigh voiceover . > *** > > Ariadne GPS is now available on the App Store. > http://www.ariadnegps.eu - info at ariadnegps.eu. > > Yet another app that uses the GPS! Maybe not. > There are some innovative aspects in this application that are worth mentioning. > > The app offers you the possibility to know your position at any time and monitor it while walking, you can decide to be informed about what changes along the way, street numbers, street names, etc.. > There is also the option to save your favorite points and to be alerted, when you approach one of them, for example when you are on a train, bus, etc... using sound, vibration, and even voice, if you are using VoiceOver. > Furthermore, there is an interesting and innovative feature, namely the ability to explore the map. The same way a person who sees the map has a whole view of what surrounds them or a view of a specific location, those using VoiceOver can now have an idea of the conformation of a certain area by tapping the map with their finger. > Moving your finger on the map, you can hear the street names and numbers pronounced by VoiceOver and make yourself a mental map of the area. > > This application is fully accessible and provides access to details that are normally unavailable to people who use the speech synthesizer and can therefore be particularly useful for the blind and visually impaired. > > The app uses the GPS and a remote service, which at the moment is Google. This means that some information may be inaccurate or unavailable at certain times (depending on the gps signal, the network and server availability). However, we are working to improve this information and functionality also using different services and mechanisms. > > The app is localized in English, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian, Dutch and Danish. > > For more details you can visit the app web site at http://www.ariadnegps.eu. > To give us suggestions, report problems, request information, please send an email to info at ariadnegps.eu. > > The app is available at: http://itunes.apple.com/app/ariadne-gps/id441063072?mt=8 > or by looking for Ariadne GPS in your national App Store > *** > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sat Jun 18 20:54:10 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:54:10 -0400 Subject: new gps app per iphone and ipad In-Reply-To: <5D632D3C-E35C-45FD-A3EB-6DF2F5CEDBDB@gmail.com> References: <8EEAF6B9-7B66-42EA-8AFB-AE628DAD827D@gmail.com> <5D632D3C-E35C-45FD-A3EB-6DF2F5CEDBDB@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes. I like the sound of this as well. I'll have to wait a bit so I can afford it, and maybe by then there will be some feedback about it on lists such as this. Thank you for sharing this information. Tracy Duffy tracyduffy at nc.rr.com On Jun 18, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > That actually sounds nice. Considering the price, it doesn't sound bad at all. I'm going to give this a chance and see how it works out, even though I'm currently using Navigon. I like the part about the map as well. It even mentions VoiceOver, and I think it's fantastic that this is publicly available information. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:38 PM, rossy wrote: > >> good evening all , >> here iis a new gps app , where finally we can read the map wigh voiceover . >> *** >> >> Ariadne GPS is now available on the App Store. >> http://www.ariadnegps.eu - info at ariadnegps.eu. >> >> Yet another app that uses the GPS! Maybe not. >> There are some innovative aspects in this application that are worth mentioning. >> >> The app offers you the possibility to know your position at any time and monitor it while walking, you can decide to be informed about what changes along the way, street numbers, street names, etc.. >> There is also the option to save your favorite points and to be alerted, when you approach one of them, for example when you are on a train, bus, etc... using sound, vibration, and even voice, if you are using VoiceOver. >> Furthermore, there is an interesting and innovative feature, namely the ability to explore the map. The same way a person who sees the map has a whole view of what surrounds them or a view of a specific location, those using VoiceOver can now have an idea of the conformation of a certain area by tapping the map with their finger. >> Moving your finger on the map, you can hear the street names and numbers pronounced by VoiceOver and make yourself a mental map of the area. >> >> This application is fully accessible and provides access to details that are normally unavailable to people who use the speech synthesizer and can therefore be particularly useful for the blind and visually impaired. >> >> The app uses the GPS and a remote service, which at the moment is Google. This means that some information may be inaccurate or unavailable at certain times (depending on the gps signal, the network and server availability). However, we are working to improve this information and functionality also using different services and mechanisms. >> >> The app is localized in English, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian, Dutch and Danish. >> >> For more details you can visit the app web site at http://www.ariadnegps.eu. >> To give us suggestions, report problems, request information, please send an email to info at ariadnegps.eu. >> >> The app is available at: http://itunes.apple.com/app/ariadne-gps/id441063072?mt=8 >> or by looking for Ariadne GPS in your national App Store >> *** >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From phonerossy at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 20:58:45 2011 From: phonerossy at gmail.com (rossy) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:58:45 +0200 Subject: new gps app per iphone and ipad In-Reply-To: <5D632D3C-E35C-45FD-A3EB-6DF2F5CEDBDB@gmail.com> References: <8EEAF6B9-7B66-42EA-8AFB-AE628DAD827D@gmail.com> <5D632D3C-E35C-45FD-A3EB-6DF2F5CEDBDB@gmail.com> Message-ID: hi nik , it is not a navigator app it is more an esploring \ look around app . thanx for giving it a try and would appreciate any feedback and suggestions . it has to be developed yet but as we worked nearly 6 months on it , before spending other 6 months would like to see what the feedback is . rossy Il giorno 18/giu/2011, alle ore 21.51, Nicolai Svendsen ha scritto: > Hi, > > That actually sounds nice. Considering the price, it doesn't sound bad at all. I'm going to give this a chance and see how it works out, even though I'm currently using Navigon. I like the part about the map as well. It even mentions VoiceOver, and I think it's fantastic that this is publicly available information. > > Regards, > Nic > On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:38 PM, rossy wrote: > >> good evening all , >> here iis a new gps app , where finally we can read the map wigh voiceover . >> *** >> >> Ariadne GPS is now available on the App Store. >> http://www.ariadnegps.eu - info at ariadnegps.eu. >> >> Yet another app that uses the GPS! Maybe not. >> There are some innovative aspects in this application that are worth mentioning. >> >> The app offers you the possibility to know your position at any time and monitor it while walking, you can decide to be informed about what changes along the way, street numbers, street names, etc.. >> There is also the option to save your favorite points and to be alerted, when you approach one of them, for example when you are on a train, bus, etc... using sound, vibration, and even voice, if you are using VoiceOver. >> Furthermore, there is an interesting and innovative feature, namely the ability to explore the map. The same way a person who sees the map has a whole view of what surrounds them or a view of a specific location, those using VoiceOver can now have an idea of the conformation of a certain area by tapping the map with their finger. >> Moving your finger on the map, you can hear the street names and numbers pronounced by VoiceOver and make yourself a mental map of the area. >> >> This application is fully accessible and provides access to details that are normally unavailable to people who use the speech synthesizer and can therefore be particularly useful for the blind and visually impaired. >> >> The app uses the GPS and a remote service, which at the moment is Google. This means that some information may be inaccurate or unavailable at certain times (depending on the gps signal, the network and server availability). However, we are working to improve this information and functionality also using different services and mechanisms. >> >> The app is localized in English, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian, Dutch and Danish. >> >> For more details you can visit the app web site at http://www.ariadnegps.eu. >> To give us suggestions, report problems, request information, please send an email to info at ariadnegps.eu. >> >> The app is available at: http://itunes.apple.com/app/ariadne-gps/id441063072?mt=8 >> or by looking for Ariadne GPS in your national App Store >> *** >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jun 18 21:05:14 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:05:14 +0100 Subject: Using iPad/iPhone as a modem Message-ID: Hello everybody I should know the answer to this; but is tethering not now routinely possible for these devices and, if so, how please do you set the thing up? Lynne From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 21:15:24 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:15:24 +0200 Subject: Converting books to ePub In-Reply-To: <294E575C-5C80-4412-9806-9E932FF1972B@anarchie.org.uk> References: <294E575C-5C80-4412-9806-9E932FF1972B@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <912FD546-BD95-406E-83A9-4DC394A362F1@gmail.com> Hi Anne. I found this great description you made a couple of months ago. I am trying to get it to work to make epub files in pages. But how does it work with hotkeys. When I have chosen which hotkeys I wants to use, I can not figure out how to press them, I try to press the f1 button, but nothings happens, which key do I have to press together with e.g. the f1 key. Best regards Annie. On Dec 30, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Here's how to use Pages to convert a text into ePub format to be read using iBooks. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > Using Pages to make ePub document > > 1 Open original document; > 2 Select all; > 3 Copy to clipboard; > 4 Open Pages; > 5 Select blank document; > 6 Paste text into document; > 7 Save as Pages document; > 8 Press Command-Shift-T to show the styles drawer: > 9 Stop interacting with everything and navigate twice left to find the drawer; > 10 Interact with the drawer and navigate once right to find the table of paragraph styles; > 11 Interact with this table and navigate down to Title; > 12 Bring mouse (VO-Command-F5) and do a control click to get a contextual menu; > 13 Type H for Hot Key and select one from the submenu; > 14 Repeat this process for Body and Heading 1 and as many other heading levels as the book requires; > 15 Stop interacting with the table and the drawer and return to the text; > 16 Select all and press the hot key for Body (this makes the text look right for sighted users of the iPhone); > 17 Go to the top of the document and make sure the text pointer is somewhere in the title then press the hot key for Title; > 18 Find the first chapter heading and with the text pointer in that heading, press the hot key for Heading 1; > 19 Continue through the document in this way until you reach the end; > 20 Remove any extraneous text such as a previous table of contents that has not been recognised by Pages; > 21 Create new TOC by going to the Insert menu and selecting Table of Contents; > 22 Save document then export to EPUB format; > 23 Remember to enter the requested information in the dialogue box (Title, Author, genre). > > _______________________________________________ > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Jun 18 21:27:56 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:27:56 +0100 Subject: Using iPad/iPhone as a modem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7E0E3217-3CCF-4486-AEED-2BB8575740B0@googlemail.com> Hi Lynne. Ahh, a feature called Personal Hotspot allows you to do this! I do it on my iPhone 3GS all the time. YOu simply turn it on by going into Settings, and Network and it should say Personal Hotspot, off, double tap to turn it on. There are 2 ways you can do this. First, you can set it up as a USB Modem and do it that ay (I prefer to do it this way as it is quicker and easier to do). Or you can do it via Bluetooth. Haven't worked out how to do this yet. I've heard that you can also share it via WiFi on the iPhone 4, not sure about the latest iPad. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 18 Jun 2011, at 21:05, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I should know the answer to this; but is tethering not now routinely possible for these devices and, if so, how please do you set the thing up? > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 21:42:47 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:42:47 +0200 Subject: new gps app per iphone and ipad In-Reply-To: References: <8EEAF6B9-7B66-42EA-8AFB-AE628DAD827D@gmail.com> <5D632D3C-E35C-45FD-A3EB-6DF2F5CEDBDB@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi! Yeah, from what I understand, that's true enough. As long as I can get a proper view of where I am, that's good enough for me a lot of the time. Regards, Nic On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:58 PM, rossy wrote: > hi nik , > it is not a navigator app it is more an esploring \ look around app . > thanx for giving it a try and would appreciate any feedback and suggestions . > it has to be developed yet but as we worked nearly 6 months on it , before spending other 6 months would like to see what the feedback is . > rossy > > Il giorno 18/giu/2011, alle ore 21.51, Nicolai Svendsen ha scritto: > >> Hi, >> >> That actually sounds nice. Considering the price, it doesn't sound bad at all. I'm going to give this a chance and see how it works out, even though I'm currently using Navigon. I like the part about the map as well. It even mentions VoiceOver, and I think it's fantastic that this is publicly available information. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:38 PM, rossy wrote: >> >>> good evening all , >>> here iis a new gps app , where finally we can read the map wigh voiceover . >>> *** >>> >>> Ariadne GPS is now available on the App Store. >>> http://www.ariadnegps.eu - info at ariadnegps.eu. >>> >>> Yet another app that uses the GPS! Maybe not. >>> There are some innovative aspects in this application that are worth mentioning. >>> >>> The app offers you the possibility to know your position at any time and monitor it while walking, you can decide to be informed about what changes along the way, street numbers, street names, etc.. >>> There is also the option to save your favorite points and to be alerted, when you approach one of them, for example when you are on a train, bus, etc... using sound, vibration, and even voice, if you are using VoiceOver. >>> Furthermore, there is an interesting and innovative feature, namely the ability to explore the map. The same way a person who sees the map has a whole view of what surrounds them or a view of a specific location, those using VoiceOver can now have an idea of the conformation of a certain area by tapping the map with their finger. >>> Moving your finger on the map, you can hear the street names and numbers pronounced by VoiceOver and make yourself a mental map of the area. >>> >>> This application is fully accessible and provides access to details that are normally unavailable to people who use the speech synthesizer and can therefore be particularly useful for the blind and visually impaired. >>> >>> The app uses the GPS and a remote service, which at the moment is Google. This means that some information may be inaccurate or unavailable at certain times (depending on the gps signal, the network and server availability). However, we are working to improve this information and functionality also using different services and mechanisms. >>> >>> The app is localized in English, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian, Dutch and Danish. >>> >>> For more details you can visit the app web site at http://www.ariadnegps.eu. >>> To give us suggestions, report problems, request information, please send an email to info at ariadnegps.eu. >>> >>> The app is available at: http://itunes.apple.com/app/ariadne-gps/id441063072?mt=8 >>> or by looking for Ariadne GPS in your national App Store >>> *** >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sat Jun 18 21:46:12 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:46:12 +0100 Subject: cmd shift 3 does not take a screenshot In-Reply-To: <14A61DC7-78D2-47AB-A441-1C0D9BE238A6@gmail.com> References: <14A61DC7-78D2-47AB-A441-1C0D9BE238A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah! Command+shift+3 Works here OK! So just to check a couple of things! Have you looked to see if the check box is checked! In the keyboard shortcuts table! And if so and that is OK, then I noticed the other command [command+option+4 ] is to take a screen shot of a selected area! Could that be the one that works for you! :] hth Colin On 18 Jun 2011, at 19:33, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello to all. I need to take a screenshot of something and cmd shift 3 dings. I've checked for all keyboard conflicts but don't see anything. reseting the keyboard shortcut defaults does nothing either. so what can I do? I really need to get this one for a project. > Thanks. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Jun 18 21:51:23 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:51:23 +0100 Subject: Using iPad/iPhone as a modem In-Reply-To: <7E0E3217-3CCF-4486-AEED-2BB8575740B0@googlemail.com> References: <7E0E3217-3CCF-4486-AEED-2BB8575740B0@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hello Lewis If you set the iPhone as a USB modem what do you then need to do with the computer to make it use the iPhone as its network interface? I ask because Gordon and I are shortly to undertake a long car ride to London and I thought it would be nice if he has mobile Internet. Of course it might be just easier to use the flipping iPad which I totally forgot about and a Blue tooth keyboard, we have 3G. I totally forgot. Grrrr. Lynne On 18 Jun 2011, at 21:27, Lewis Crack wrote: Hi Lynne. Ahh, a feature called Personal Hotspot allows you to do this! I do it on my iPhone 3GS all the time. YOu simply turn it on by going into Settings, and Network and it should say Personal Hotspot, off, double tap to turn it on. There are 2 ways you can do this. First, you can set it up as a USB Modem and do it that ay (I prefer to do it this way as it is quicker and easier to do). Or you can do it via Bluetooth. Haven't worked out how to do this yet. I've heard that you can also share it via WiFi on the iPhone 4, not sure about the latest iPad. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 18 Jun 2011, at 21:05, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I should know the answer to this; but is tethering not now routinely possible for these devices and, if so, how please do you set the thing up? > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sat Jun 18 21:52:13 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:52:13 +0100 Subject: cmd shift 3 does not take a screenshot In-Reply-To: <14A61DC7-78D2-47AB-A441-1C0D9BE238A6@gmail.com> References: <14A61DC7-78D2-47AB-A441-1C0D9BE238A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah! Oops I should have said command+shift+4 for that area screen shot! Sorry about that! On 18 Jun 2011, at 19:33, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello to all. I need to take a screenshot of something and cmd shift 3 dings. I've checked for all keyboard conflicts but don't see anything. reseting the keyboard shortcut defaults does nothing either. so what can I do? I really need to get this one for a project. > Thanks. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Jun 18 21:58:41 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:58:41 -1000 Subject: cmd shift 3 does not take a screenshot In-Reply-To: References: <14A61DC7-78D2-47AB-A441-1C0D9BE238A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0952003E-5542-40E3-B8A9-239D5EF58AF4@mac.com> Hello, I was also going to try suggesting that Sarah try a window specific screen shot, but the shortcut is Command+Shift+4 on my machine (not Command+Option+4). I'll paste in the steps from my Instructions for Window-specific Screen Captures posted last November 2010. Note that the screen captures are no longer named Picture 1, Picture 2, etc. as stated in the excerpt, but labeled as Screenshots with date and time, as a result of the OS X upgrade. To take a screen shot of the current window you use Command-Shift-4, but you'll need to click in the current window with a physical mouse click in order to activate the capture. I find this easiest to do with my cursor tracking options set to check "Mouse cursor follows VoiceOver cursor" under VoiceOver Utility's Navigation settings (VO-F8, press "N", tab to checkbox for this item and VO-Space to check/uncheck, Command-W to close window). As Anne mentions, you can bring the current window to the front with VO-Shift-F4. The sequence is: 1. Highlight the window you need to take a screen shot of 2. Press Command-Shift-4 to start the process. 3. Press Space to have the keyboard focussed in your window 4. Click the mouse within the window. The usual problem is moving the cursor focus to your selected window before clicking with mouse or trackpad in step 4. I get better results if I set my mouse cursor tracking first. Your click must be what I call a "hardware click" -- press the trackpad button or mouse, or press the "5" key of the number pad with NumPad Commander activated. A software click with Command-Shift-Space will not work. Incidentally, pressing one of the arrow keys and pressing the "5" key from the number row of keys does work just like the NumPad Commander click, following our much earlier discussion from a few months back about how the NumPad Commander key definitions can work with the top row of number keys, hyphen, and equals sign, when pressed with an arrow key from the keyboard. (This is a useful trick for laptop users.) Once your complete the sequence with a (physical) mouse click, the window screen shot will appear on your Desktop with a name like "Picture 1", "Picture 2", "Picture 3", etc. I think the default image type is .png, but you can change this from the terminal with a command like: defaults write com.apple.screencapture type pdf where I've set up my screen capture type to be PDF in the final argument. This can be "jpeg", "tiff", etc. A number of the utility programs like OnyX also let you set or change the default screenshot type within their program. HTH. Getting window specific screenshots with Command-Shift-4 is possible; it just takes a little more work than using Command-Shift-3 to capture the whole screen. Maybe this should go into the list of tips for the web pages? P.S. Colin, I find these new mail IDs confusing. Fortunately, your writing style identifies you regardless, even before I get to your signature. Cheers, Esther On Jun 18, 2011, at 10:46, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Sarah! > Command+shift+3 Works here OK! > So just to check a couple of things! > Have you looked to see if the check box is checked! In the keyboard shortcuts table! > And if so and that is OK, then I noticed the other command [command+option+4 ] is to take a screen shot of a selected area! > Could that be the one that works for you! :] > hth Colin > > On 18 Jun 2011, at 19:33, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello to all. I need to take a screenshot of something and cmd shift 3 dings. I've checked for all keyboard conflicts but don't see anything. reseting the keyboard shortcut defaults does nothing either. so what can I do? I really need to get this one for a project. >> Thanks. >> Sarah Alawami From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Jun 18 23:07:11 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:07:11 +0100 Subject: Using iPad/iPhone as a modem In-Reply-To: References: <7E0E3217-3CCF-4486-AEED-2BB8575740B0@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <31BE12F2-8634-481A-84E8-29E4A1FB8A95@googlemail.com> HI Lynne. If you are using the Mac, you would not need to do anything as it connects itself. However, you can go to Network preferences and select iPhone or whatever the name of your iPhone or iPad is from the list and click connect. For Windows, you go to Network connections and tell it to connect to iPhone or whatever the name is for your iPad or iPhone. Sometimes it comes up with Local Network connection 2, etc. You click on there. Then, after you have done it once, you shouldn't need to do it again, it will connect automatically. It may connect automatically to start with, not entirely sure as it was a while since I did it. Note: You need to have iTunes installed to do this (only applies to Windows obviously, as Mac already has it). Hope this helps. Lewis. On 18 Jun 2011, at 21:51, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Lewis > > If you set the iPhone as a USB modem what do you then need to do with the computer to make it use the iPhone as its network interface? I ask because Gordon and I are shortly to undertake a long car ride to London and I thought it would be nice if he has mobile Internet. Of course it might be just easier to use the flipping iPad which I totally forgot about and a Blue tooth keyboard, we have 3G. I totally forgot. Grrrr. > > Lynne > > On 18 Jun 2011, at 21:27, Lewis Crack wrote: > > Hi Lynne. > > Ahh, a feature called Personal Hotspot allows you to do this! > I do it on my iPhone 3GS all the time. YOu simply turn it on by going into Settings, and Network and it should say Personal Hotspot, off, double tap to turn it on. > There are 2 ways you can do this. > First, you can set it up as a USB Modem and do it that ay (I prefer to do it this way as it is quicker and easier to do). Or you can do it via Bluetooth. Haven't worked out how to do this yet. I've heard that you can also share it via WiFi on the iPhone 4, not sure about the latest iPad. > Hope this helps. > Lewis. > On 18 Jun 2011, at 21:05, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> I should know the answer to this; but is tethering not now routinely possible for these devices and, if so, how please do you set the thing up? >> >> Lynne >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 00:21:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:21:58 -0700 Subject: cmd shift 3 does not take a screenshot In-Reply-To: <0952003E-5542-40E3-B8A9-239D5EF58AF4@mac.com> References: <14A61DC7-78D2-47AB-A441-1C0D9BE238A6@gmail.com> <0952003E-5542-40E3-B8A9-239D5EF58AF4@mac.com> Message-ID: I'll look in the keyboard short cuts table. HOpefully that will work. update! you hit the nale on the head. I had or someone unchecked the box to have that done. Thanks. On Jun 18, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Esther wrote: > Hello, > > I was also going to try suggesting that Sarah try a window specific screen shot, but the shortcut is Command+Shift+4 on my machine (not Command+Option+4). I'll paste in the steps from my Instructions for Window-specific Screen Captures posted last November 2010. Note that the screen captures are no longer named Picture 1, Picture 2, etc. as stated in the excerpt, but labeled as Screenshots with date and time, as a result of the OS X upgrade. > > > To take a screen shot of the current window you use Command-Shift-4, but you'll need to click in the current window with a physical mouse click in order to activate the capture. I find this easiest to do with my cursor tracking options set to check "Mouse cursor follows VoiceOver cursor" under VoiceOver Utility's Navigation settings (VO-F8, press "N", tab to checkbox for this item and VO-Space to check/uncheck, Command-W to close window). As Anne mentions, you can bring the current window to the front with VO-Shift-F4. The sequence is: > > 1. Highlight the window you need to take a screen shot of > 2. Press Command-Shift-4 to start the process. > 3. Press Space to have the keyboard focussed in your window > 4. Click the mouse within the window. > > The usual problem is moving the cursor focus to your selected window before clicking with mouse or trackpad in step 4. I get better results if I set my mouse cursor tracking first. Your click must be what I call a "hardware click" -- press the trackpad button or mouse, or press the "5" key of the number pad with NumPad Commander activated. A software click with Command-Shift-Space will not work. Incidentally, pressing one of the arrow keys and pressing the "5" key from the number row of keys does work just like the NumPad Commander click, following our much earlier discussion from a few months back about how the NumPad Commander key definitions can work with the top row of number keys, hyphen, and equals sign, when pressed with an arrow key from the keyboard. (This is a useful trick for laptop users.) > > Once your complete the sequence with a (physical) mouse click, the window screen shot will appear on your Desktop with a name like "Picture 1", "Picture 2", "Picture 3", etc. I think the default image type is .png, but you can change this from the terminal with a command like: > > defaults write com.apple.screencapture type pdf > > where I've set up my screen capture type to be PDF in the final argument. This can be "jpeg", "tiff", etc. A number of the utility programs like OnyX also let you set or change the default screenshot type within their program. > > HTH. Getting window specific screenshots with Command-Shift-4 is possible; it just takes a little more work than using Command-Shift-3 to capture the whole screen. Maybe this should go into the list of tips for the web pages? > > > P.S. Colin, I find these new mail IDs confusing. Fortunately, your writing style identifies you regardless, even before I get to your signature. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 18, 2011, at 10:46, Red.Falcon wrote: > >> Hi Sarah! >> Command+shift+3 Works here OK! >> So just to check a couple of things! >> Have you looked to see if the check box is checked! In the keyboard shortcuts table! >> And if so and that is OK, then I noticed the other command [command+option+4 ] is to take a screen shot of a selected area! >> Could that be the one that works for you! :] >> hth Colin >> >> On 18 Jun 2011, at 19:33, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Hello to all. I need to take a screenshot of something and cmd shift 3 dings. I've checked for all keyboard conflicts but don't see anything. reseting the keyboard shortcut defaults does nothing either. so what can I do? I really need to get this one for a project. >>> Thanks. >>> Sarah Alawami > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From moriond at mac.com Sun Jun 19 02:45:57 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:45:57 -1000 Subject: Notesy and deleting notes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4655AA68-4EBC-4598-996F-55EB67F53CBA@mac.com> Hi Dane, To delete a note in Notesy, double tap the "Edit" button in the top left corner of the screen. Then, if you run your finger down the left side of the screen, you'll hear the "Delete" buttons for each of your notes, e.g. "Delete Note 1, updated June 1, 2011, switch button off". Double tap the "Delete" button for the note you want to remove. You'll here a prompt to "Confirm deletion for Note 1, updated June 1, 2011", and focus will move to a "Delete" button on the right side of the screen on the line for that note entry. You can confirm the deletion by double tapping anywhere on the screen, or you could flick left to hear first the note item, and then flick left again to the switch button for deleting that note item. Double tapping the switch would set it back to "off". Alternatively, if you decide not to delete any items, you can leave "Edit" mode by double tapping the "Done" button in the top left corner (which was previously the "Edit" button). I don't have Notesy on my iPad, so I don't know whether the app layout is different there. This is working in Portrait mode on my iPod Touch. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 18, 2011, at 07:40, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > I'm obviously missing something somewhere, can't find where or how to delete a note with Notesy, can anyone help? > > Naturally I can go to the computer and delete the note I want to trash from the notesy folder under my Dropbox but that's hardly helpful when I'm on the move. > > > > Sent from my iPad From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Jun 19 03:15:09 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:15:09 +1000 Subject: Notesy and deleting notes In-Reply-To: <4655AA68-4EBC-4598-996F-55EB67F53CBA@mac.com> References: <4655AA68-4EBC-4598-996F-55EB67F53CBA@mac.com> Message-ID: <5BE85DD1-B41A-4DE2-8372-478C42FE0B15@internode.on.net> Yeah thanks, odd! cause I haven't been ale to find the "Edit" utton, I've just shut down the Ipad and turned the power on again so we'll see if that makes any difference. On 19/06/2011, at 11:45 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Dane, > > To delete a note in Notesy, double tap the "Edit" button in the top left corner of the screen. Then, if you run your finger down the left side of the screen, you'll hear the "Delete" buttons for each of your notes, e.g. "Delete Note 1, updated June 1, 2011, switch button off". Double tap the "Delete" button for the note you want to remove. You'll here a prompt to "Confirm deletion for Note 1, updated June 1, 2011", and focus will move to a "Delete" button on the right side of the screen on the line for that note entry. You can confirm the deletion by double tapping anywhere on the screen, or you could flick left to hear first the note item, and then flick left again to the switch button for deleting that note item. Double tapping the switch would set it back to "off". Alternatively, if you decide not to delete any items, you can leave "Edit" mode by double tapping the "Done" button in the top left corner (which was previously the "Edit" button). I don't have Notesy on > my iPad, so I don't know whether the app layout is different there. This is working in Portrait mode on my iPod Touch. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 18, 2011, at 07:40, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I'm obviously missing something somewhere, can't find where or how to delete a note with Notesy, can anyone help? >> >> Naturally I can go to the computer and delete the note I want to trash from the notesy folder under my Dropbox but that's hardly helpful when I'm on the move. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sun Jun 19 03:39:20 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:39:20 -1000 Subject: Notesy and deleting notes In-Reply-To: <5BE85DD1-B41A-4DE2-8372-478C42FE0B15@internode.on.net> References: <4655AA68-4EBC-4598-996F-55EB67F53CBA@mac.com> <5BE85DD1-B41A-4DE2-8372-478C42FE0B15@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <308C7BC4-9A61-4EF8-87A1-CFFA42C193E2@mac.com> Hi Dane, I loaded Notesy onto my iPad. The delete sequence is different: it's done from the pane that actually contains the text of the note, and not the list of notes. So, for example, if I want to the delete the "Welcome" message that comes with the newly installed app, I double tap "Welcome" in the screen that lists the notes. Then, in either Portrait or Landscape mode, run your finger down to the "Delete" button that's at the center in the row of 5 buttons along the bottom of the screen. If you hold the iPad in Portrait orientation, that button will be just above the "Home" button. Otherwise, I run my finger down in a straight vertical line through the center of the iPad. At the top, I'll hit the time announcement in the status bar; at the bottom, I'll hit the "Delete" button for the note, which is 3rd of 5. If you want a gesture based set of directions to reach the "Delete" button, do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to go to the last element, which is the "Full Screen" button, then flick left twice to pass the "Append" button (4th of 5) and reach the "Delete" button (3rd of 5). The other two buttons are "Information (2nd of 5) and "Action" (1st of 5). Instructions and description works in both Landscape and Portrait orientations. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 18, 2011, at 16:15, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Yeah thanks, odd! cause I haven't been ale to find the "Edit" utton, I've just shut down the Ipad and turned the power on again so we'll see if that makes any difference. > > > On 19/06/2011, at 11:45 AM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Dane, >> >> To delete a note in Notesy, double tap the "Edit" button in the top left corner of the screen. Then, if you run your finger down the left side of the screen, you'll hear the "Delete" buttons for each of your notes, e.g. "Delete Note 1, updated June 1, 2011, switch button off". Double tap the "Delete" button for the note you want to remove. You'll here a prompt to "Confirm deletion for Note 1, updated June 1, 2011", and focus will move to a "Delete" button on the right side of the screen on the line for that note entry. You can confirm the deletion by double tapping anywhere on the screen, or you could flick left to hear first the note item, and then flick left again to the switch button for deleting that note item. Double tapping the switch would set it back to "off". Alternatively, if you decide not to delete any items, you can leave "Edit" mode by double tapping the "Done" button in the top left corner (which was previously the "Edit" button). I don't have Notesy o > n >> my iPad, so I don't know whether the app layout is different there. This is working in Portrait mode on my iPod Touch. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Jun 18, 2011, at 07:40, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I'm obviously missing something somewhere, can't find where or how to delete a note with Notesy, can anyone help? >>> >>> Naturally I can go to the computer and delete the note I want to trash from the notesy folder under my Dropbox but that's hardly helpful when I'm on the move. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >> >> From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 19 05:53:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 05:53:27 +0100 Subject: Putting an iPad into recovery mode Message-ID: <5872BDF3-24A1-45BB-94BC-C65AC93544AD@mac-access.net> hello everybody Anybody know how to put an iPad into recovery mode? Ours is trashed and needs to be restored. We have it backed up; but iTunes won' see it as the correct device so we can't restore it. Any advice appreciated. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 19 06:11:02 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 06:11:02 +0100 Subject: How to put an iPad into Recovery Mode; Please Disregarde Message-ID: <6DFAA9F5-307C-4004-89A2-9487F4A361C3@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Gordon has sorted out the mess our iPad was in. Please disregard my previous post. Lynne From cjsims at me.com Sun Jun 19 06:42:02 2011 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:42:02 +1000 Subject: Using facebook on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <05D5410B-CBDE-4813-A7AB-7A0533A06A20@nc.rr.com> References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> <05D5410B-CBDE-4813-A7AB-7A0533A06A20@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <42FC6CB1-347C-4FCD-BA59-3B6D3DFBD033@me.com> Hi Tracey. to things to be aware of. If you write a comment responce to a status message, pressing enter will post it. If you then just use VO CMD H you will move to the next persons status message or next news story. Hope that this helps you. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 On 19/06/2011, at 4:23 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > Thank you. That may be helpful. What I really need to know is this. Where do I click to post a comment to someone's status, and then how do I get back to where I was reading all the status lines? Thanks. > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: > >> Hi tracy. I use the main site with Voceover with no problems. Sometimes things don't quite behave as expected but once you get used to how the page behaves, it works great. The one thing that I will say, is this. When your writing a status message, the easiest way to go is to set your roter to heading navigation, tthen press 2. This will take you tto your news feed. If you then press Vo CMD J, you'll be taken to the edit box for writing statuss. Hope that this helps. >> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >> >> On 13/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >>> Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sun Jun 19 14:05:08 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:05:08 +0200 Subject: Converting books to ePub In-Reply-To: <912FD546-BD95-406E-83A9-4DC394A362F1@gmail.com> References: <294E575C-5C80-4412-9806-9E932FF1972B@anarchie.org.uk> <912FD546-BD95-406E-83A9-4DC394A362F1@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Annie, When you press a hotkey to set a style, there is no audible feedback. If you want to check that the style has been applied, you need to set a hotspot on the table of paragraph styles and consult it while focused on the particular paragraph. The style that is in use will be selected. Cheers, Anne On Jun 18, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Anne. > > I found this great description you made a couple of months ago. > > I am trying to get it to work to make epub files in pages. > > But how does it work with hotkeys. > > When I have chosen which hotkeys I wants to use, I can not figure out how to press them, I try to press the f1 button, but nothings happens, which key do I have to press together with e.g. the f1 key. > > Best regards Annie. > On Dec 30, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Here's how to use Pages to convert a text into ePub format to be read using iBooks. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> Using Pages to make ePub document >> >> 1 Open original document; >> 2 Select all; >> 3 Copy to clipboard; >> 4 Open Pages; >> 5 Select blank document; >> 6 Paste text into document; >> 7 Save as Pages document; >> 8 Press Command-Shift-T to show the styles drawer: >> 9 Stop interacting with everything and navigate twice left to find the drawer; >> 10 Interact with the drawer and navigate once right to find the table of paragraph styles; >> 11 Interact with this table and navigate down to Title; >> 12 Bring mouse (VO-Command-F5) and do a control click to get a contextual menu; >> 13 Type H for Hot Key and select one from the submenu; >> 14 Repeat this process for Body and Heading 1 and as many other heading levels as the book requires; >> 15 Stop interacting with the table and the drawer and return to the text; >> 16 Select all and press the hot key for Body (this makes the text look right for sighted users of the iPhone); >> 17 Go to the top of the document and make sure the text pointer is somewhere in the title then press the hot key for Title; >> 18 Find the first chapter heading and with the text pointer in that heading, press the hot key for Heading 1; >> 19 Continue through the document in this way until you reach the end; >> 20 Remove any extraneous text such as a previous table of contents that has not been recognised by Pages; >> 21 Create new TOC by going to the Insert menu and selecting Table of Contents; >> 22 Save document then export to EPUB format; >> 23 Remember to enter the requested information in the dialogue box (Title, Author, genre). >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jun 19 14:11:38 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:11:38 +0100 Subject: Putting an iPad into recovery mode In-Reply-To: <5872BDF3-24A1-45BB-94BC-C65AC93544AD@mac-access.net> References: <5872BDF3-24A1-45BB-94BC-C65AC93544AD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1A3917D4-021D-45E5-A10A-1097F398CE50@googlemail.com> Hi Lynne. Have you tried holding the sleep/wake and home buttons together for a few seconds? I did it for about 20 seconds and then restarted the device. My iPhone crashed at one point and it always seemed to work. Basically, it would load, but no speech would appear and when I did the holding of the sleep/wake button and the home button for a few seconds and restarted the device, it worked fine. Hope this helps to solve this problem. Regards. Lewis. On 19 Jun 2011, at 05:53, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > hello everybody > > Anybody know how to put an iPad into recovery mode? Ours is trashed and needs to be restored. We have it backed up; but iTunes won' see it as the correct device so we can't restore it. Any advice appreciated. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jun 19 14:13:13 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:13:13 +0100 Subject: How to put an iPad into Recovery Mode; Please Disregarde In-Reply-To: <6DFAA9F5-307C-4004-89A2-9487F4A361C3@mac-access.net> References: <6DFAA9F5-307C-4004-89A2-9487F4A361C3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <98419B4F-7CA4-4CE7-AA45-84DC189FDA07@googlemail.com> HI. Everyone ignore my reply as I didn't see the email that Lynne sent afterwards. My apologies. Lewis. On 19 Jun 2011, at 06:11, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Gordon has sorted out the mess our iPad was in. Please disregard my previous post. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Sun Jun 19 13:59:28 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:59:28 -0400 Subject: Using facebook on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <42FC6CB1-347C-4FCD-BA59-3B6D3DFBD033@me.com> References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> <05D5410B-CBDE-4813-A7AB-7A0533A06A20@nc.rr.com> <42FC6CB1-347C-4FCD-BA59-3B6D3DFBD033@me.com> Message-ID: <99553D69-F26D-4C4A-88DA-9580C417CA20@nc.rr.com> Is this using the facebook ap, or just going to the facebook page? And, my problem is that I can't figure out how to get to where I can make a comment to what someone has said. When I click on the link that appears to take me where I want to go, what it actually does is take me to that person's wall. Apparently, I'm not making my problem clear, but I don't know how else to explain it. Thanks. Tracy Duffy tracyduffy at nc.rr.com On Jun 19, 2011, at 1:42 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: > Hi Tracey. to things to be aware of. If you write a comment responce to a status message, pressing enter will post it. If you then just use VO CMD H you will move to the next persons status message or next news story. Hope that this helps you. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > > On 19/06/2011, at 4:23 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: > >> Thank you. That may be helpful. What I really need to know is this. Where do I click to post a comment to someone's status, and then how do I get back to where I was reading all the status lines? Thanks. >> >> On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >> >>> Hi tracy. I use the main site with Voceover with no problems. Sometimes things don't quite behave as expected but once you get used to how the page behaves, it works great. The one thing that I will say, is this. When your writing a status message, the easiest way to go is to set your roter to heading navigation, tthen press 2. This will take you tto your news feed. If you then press Vo CMD J, you'll be taken to the edit box for writing statuss. Hope that this helps. >>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>> >>> On 13/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>> >>>> Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 14:25:28 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:25:28 +0200 Subject: DVDRemaster: Encoding DVD into M4V with audio Message-ID: Hi Everyone, Upon the recommendation to grab DVDRemaster, I went ahead and I'm actually really loving this application. I'm only having a few problems, and according to the user guide this shouldn't be happening since I'm apparently doing it correctly, according to the tutorials. What I wish to do is convert a DVD into M4V format, so it can be played on my iPhone. i'm following these steps. 1. I select the "Export" tab 2. Select "iPhone/iPod" from the "Format" popup. 3. Select the "Normal" setting from the preset popup. 4. In the table, I make sure the audio track is selected. This is the outcome I should get, but I don't get what it says is supposed to happen. Export to iPod/iPhone Video: Apple MPEG4 Compressor Size: width: 480 px Frame rate: original frame rate Data rate: 1.50 mbps Audio: MPEG-4 Audio @ 44.10 kHz All the video settings apply, but it seems to skip the audio portion for some reason, even though it clearly shows that audio will be included in the M4V file. I don't understand this. I don't want to extract raw streams, but I want to include all the contents in that single m4v file which is supposedly possible using these settings. Has anyone had actual experience with DVDRemaster, and can any of those people offer an educated guess? Thanks. :) Regards, Nic From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 19 16:24:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:24:31 +0100 Subject: DVDRemaster: Encoding DVD into M4V with audio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0F3A344D-6C51-4C41-8C7D-EF56DABF880C@mac-access.net> Nic Your problem is that you don't select a language given what you have said. Lynne On 19 Jun 2011, at 14:25, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Everyone, Upon the recommendation to grab DVDRemaster, I went ahead and I'm actually really loving this application. I'm only having a few problems, and according to the user guide this shouldn't be happening since I'm apparently doing it correctly, according to the tutorials. What I wish to do is convert a DVD into M4V format, so it can be played on my iPhone. i'm following these steps. 1. I select the "Export" tab 2. Select "iPhone/iPod" from the "Format" popup. 3. Select the "Normal" setting from the preset popup. 4. In the table, I make sure the audio track is selected. This is the outcome I should get, but I don't get what it says is supposed to happen. Export to iPod/iPhone Video: Apple MPEG4 Compressor Size: width: 480 px Frame rate: original frame rate Data rate: 1.50 mbps Audio: MPEG-4 Audio @ 44.10 kHz All the video settings apply, but it seems to skip the audio portion for some reason, even though it clearly shows that audio will be included in the M4V file. I don't understand this. I don't want to extract raw streams, but I want to include all the contents in that single m4v file which is supposedly possible using these settings. Has anyone had actual experience with DVDRemaster, and can any of those people offer an educated guess? Thanks. :) Regards, Nic<--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Jun 19 16:26:55 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:26:55 +0100 Subject: Heading South Message-ID: <7019BDA3-248B-4C2C-BEED-59A60E9A055C@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Gordon and I are heading South in a few minutes time to attend Wimbledon. We will be monitoring our email while away but not as much as usual. Please expect some small delays during the next few days if you need to contact us. Lynne From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 17:17:23 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:17:23 +0200 Subject: DVDRemaster: Encoding DVD into M4V with audio In-Reply-To: <0F3A344D-6C51-4C41-8C7D-EF56DABF880C@mac-access.net> References: <0F3A344D-6C51-4C41-8C7D-EF56DABF880C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <51255D37-C6CD-4F2C-849E-4EC09D78ED64@gmail.com> Hi Lynne, That's what I figured, too, but supposedly the audio tracks represent languages.. They're all selected, or at least the ones I need, and I still hear nothing which is the initial problem. So, if you can elaborate, I'd be grateful. :) Regards, Nic On Jun 19, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Nic > > Your problem is that you don't select a language given what you have said. > > Lynne > > On 19 Jun 2011, at 14:25, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Upon the recommendation to grab DVDRemaster, I went ahead and I'm actually really loving this application. I'm only having a few problems, and according to the user guide this shouldn't be happening since I'm apparently doing it correctly, according to the tutorials. > > What I wish to do is convert a DVD into M4V format, so it can be played on my iPhone. i'm following these steps. > > 1. I select the "Export" tab > 2. Select "iPhone/iPod" from the "Format" popup. > 3. Select the "Normal" setting from the preset popup. > 4. In the table, I make sure the audio track is selected. > > This is the outcome I should get, but I don't get what it says is supposed to happen. > > Export to iPod/iPhone > > Video: Apple MPEG4 Compressor > > Size: width: 480 px > > Frame rate: original frame rate > > Data rate: 1.50 mbps > > Audio: MPEG-4 Audio @ 44.10 kHz > > All the video settings apply, but it seems to skip the audio portion for some reason, even though it clearly shows that audio will be included in the M4V file. I don't understand this. I don't want to extract raw streams, but I want to include all the contents in that single m4v file which is supposedly possible using these settings. > > Has anyone had actual experience with DVDRemaster, and can any of those people offer an educated guess? > > Thanks. :) > > Regards, > Nic<--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Sun Jun 19 17:43:48 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:43:48 -0400 Subject: Mac and PC-compatible Printers Message-ID: <0LN100JTSQH1LPR2@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Folks! I'm in need of a wireless printer that will work both with Macs and PC'S. Printer needs to be a color laser type. Has anyone had experience working with wireless printers of this type, and if so, any tips? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Jun 19 18:05:36 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:05:36 +0100 Subject: software with my macbook Message-ID: <4dfe2998.04d1e30a.0a37.ffffb15f@mx.google.com> i have been having a little look at the software that came with my macbook. my software is in a small cardboard case with an instruction book i think. i have two cds in plastic sleeves. what is the second cd or dvd for if the first cd or dvd is the mac osx dvd? from what i could tell with voiceover from reading the second disk there was some mention of some software bundle and i read some information in one folder regarding hardware testing. is this disk for extra apps ie i-work? From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sun Jun 19 18:03:18 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:03:18 +0100 Subject: software with my macbook In-Reply-To: <4dfe2998.04d1e30a.0a37.ffffb15f@mx.google.com> References: <4dfe2998.04d1e30a.0a37.ffffb15f@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <52265A7D-8653-4C6B-BE80-E7E8191897F8@googlemail.com> Hi Michael. the 2nd disk may be drivers for your Mac or your original Mac DVD, which contains drivers for the Mac. Or, it could be an extra applications DVD which has utilities for testing the Mac. Not entirely sure. Regards. Lewis. On 19 Jun 2011, at 18:05, michael weaver wrote: > i have been having a little look at the software that came with my macbook. > my software is in a small cardboard case with an instruction book i think. > i have two cds in plastic sleeves. > what is the second cd or dvd for if the first cd or dvd is the mac osx dvd? > from what i could tell with voiceover from reading the second disk there was some mention of some software bundle and i read some information in one folder regarding hardware testing. > is this disk for extra apps ie i-work? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Sun Jun 19 18:05:27 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:05:27 +0100 Subject: DVDRemaster: Encoding DVD into M4V with audio In-Reply-To: <51255D37-C6CD-4F2C-849E-4EC09D78ED64@gmail.com> References: <0F3A344D-6C51-4C41-8C7D-EF56DABF880C@mac-access.net> <51255D37-C6CD-4F2C-849E-4EC09D78ED64@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Nic let me contact youu off list. We've had to delay our departure yet again so we won't be leaving for another couple of hours. I will email you now. Lynne On 19 Jun 2011, at 17:17, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Lynne, That's what I figured, too, but supposedly the audio tracks represent languages.. They're all selected, or at least the ones I need, and I still hear nothing which is the initial problem. So, if you can elaborate, I'd be grateful. :) Regards, Nic On Jun 19, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Nic > > Your problem is that you don't select a language given what you have said. > > Lynne > > On 19 Jun 2011, at 14:25, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Upon the recommendation to grab DVDRemaster, I went ahead and I'm actually really loving this application. I'm only having a few problems, and according to the user guide this shouldn't be happening since I'm apparently doing it correctly, according to the tutorials. > > What I wish to do is convert a DVD into M4V format, so it can be played on my iPhone. i'm following these steps. > > 1. I select the "Export" tab > 2. Select "iPhone/iPod" from the "Format" popup. > 3. Select the "Normal" setting from the preset popup. > 4. In the table, I make sure the audio track is selected. > > This is the outcome I should get, but I don't get what it says is supposed to happen. > > Export to iPod/iPhone > > Video: Apple MPEG4 Compressor > > Size: width: 480 px > > Frame rate: original frame rate > > Data rate: 1.50 mbps > > Audio: MPEG-4 Audio @ 44.10 kHz > > All the video settings apply, but it seems to skip the audio portion for some reason, even though it clearly shows that audio will be included in the M4V file. I don't understand this. I don't want to extract raw streams, but I want to include all the contents in that single m4v file which is supposedly possible using these settings. > > Has anyone had actual experience with DVDRemaster, and can any of those people offer an educated guess? > > Thanks. :) > > Regards, > Nic<--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sun Jun 19 18:36:52 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:36:52 +0100 Subject: Using facebook on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <99553D69-F26D-4C4A-88DA-9580C417CA20@nc.rr.com> References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> <05D5410B-CBDE-4813-A7AB-7A0533A06A20@nc.rr.com> <42FC6CB1-347C-4FCD-BA59-3B6D3DFBD033@me.com> <99553D69-F26D-4C4A-88DA-9580C417CA20@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: Hi Tracy! When you are at the thread you wish to comment on! Just right arrow through any other post's that people have made! Ignore that comment button! You will get to a text field for you to make your own comment! Just interact with the field and type! Do not use the return/enter key until your ready to post! And when you are ready just press return and your comment will be added! hth Colin On 19 Jun 2011, at 13:59, Tracy Duffy wrote: > Is this using the facebook ap, or just going to the facebook page? And, my problem is that I can't figure out how to get to where I can make a comment to what someone has said. When I click on the link that appears to take me where I want to go, what it actually does is take me to that person's wall. Apparently, I'm not making my problem clear, but I don't know how else to explain it. Thanks. > > Tracy Duffy > tracyduffy at nc.rr.com > > > > On Jun 19, 2011, at 1:42 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: > >> Hi Tracey. to things to be aware of. If you write a comment response to a status message, pressing enter will post it. If you then just use VO CMD H you will move to the next persons status message or next news story. Hope that this helps you. >> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >> >> On 19/06/2011, at 4:23 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >>> Thank you. That may be helpful. What I really need to know is this. Where do I click to post a comment to someone's status, and then how do I get back to where I was reading all the status lines? Thanks. >>> >>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>> >>>> Hi tracy. I use the main site with Voiceover with no problems. Sometimes things don't quite behave as expected but once you get used to how the page behaves, it works great. The one thing that I will say, is this. When your writing a status message, the easiest way to go is to set your roter to heading navigation, then press 2. This will take you to your news feed. If you then press Vo CMD J, you'll be taken to the edit box for writing status. Hope that this helps. >>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>> >>>> On 13/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>>> >>>>> Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Jun 19 20:08:18 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:08:18 +0100 Subject: copying my installation dvd Message-ID: <4dfe4659.143bd80a.7157.ffffecb1@mx.google.com> i went through the proceedure to make a backup of my installation dvd for mac osx? however all the cds and dvds i have used to make a backup have either been too small or when i tried burning it from utilities, the disks were ejected before i even got chance to send it to them like perhaps discs were damaged but i am not sure if they were. does anyone have any advice on how to do this? i have the image as a dmg file but the message i get when trying to burn it from the desktop seems to indicate a very large file size. From Mattchao at verizon.net Sun Jun 19 20:50:02 2011 From: Mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:50:02 -0400 Subject: me.com Web Site Message-ID: <288DBBE0-1E4F-4CEC-975E-C19DBF3A5F7B@verizon.net> Hello. I have Find my iPhone installed on my iPhone 4. In order to track your iPhone, you go to the me.com site. Unfortunately, Safari doesn't seem to like this site. Has anyone else had a problem with this site? Also, should be noted that I also have troubles with this site when using Windows. Any ideas? Matthew Chao From moriond at mac.com Sun Jun 19 22:46:09 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:46:09 -1000 Subject: YummySoup! discounted 75% to $4.99 at App Store this weekend Message-ID: <4466A503-0B37-43D4-BA75-D927E6BF7EFD@mac.com> Hi, This offer is probably less exciting than the DVDRemaster discounted offer for this weekend (but Geoff beat me to posting that). For those interested in recipe software similar to Mac Gourmet, YummySoup! is on sale this weekend (sale ends Monday) for $4.99, normally $19.99. YummySoup!, along with Mac Gourmet, seems to get the top ratings among recipe sharing software. It seems mostly accessible, along the lines that Chantelle described earlier that you'd probably want to set up symbols in the pronunciations tab of VO utility to announce fractions as "quarter of a" rather than "one with fraction slash with four", etc. Here's the App Store link http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/yummysoup/id402757302?mt=12 Head's up to Mary, Dane, Chantelle, and others. Cheers, Esther From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Mon Jun 20 01:06:04 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:06:04 +0100 Subject: Using facebook on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <99553D69-F26D-4C4A-88DA-9580C417CA20@nc.rr.com> References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> <05D5410B-CBDE-4813-A7AB-7A0533A06A20@nc.rr.com> <42FC6CB1-347C-4FCD-BA59-3B6D3DFBD033@me.com> <99553D69-F26D-4C4A-88DA-9580C417CA20@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <6661B44D-B92D-4A90-84F9-C65E5FF5C2B2@virginmedia.com> Hi Tracy! Me again! Well I've had a play myself! And indeed the command that Christopher says does do what he said! But the command [vo+command+j ] will take you from your friends heading to the options like [like this , make a comment button and also make a comment edit text] So using that vo+command+j you can get to the text field you want! And then just do as I suggested in the other post! hth Colin On 19 Jun 2011, at 13:59, Tracy Duffy wrote: > Is this using the facebook ap, or just going to the facebook page? And, my problem is that I can't figure out how to get to where I can make a comment to what someone has said. When I click on the link that appears to take me where I want to go, what it actually does is take me to that person's wall. Apparently, I'm not making my problem clear, but I don't know how else to explain it. Thanks. > > Tracy Duffy > tracyduffy at nc.rr.com > > > > On Jun 19, 2011, at 1:42 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: > >> Hi Tracey. to things to be aware of. If you write a comment response to a status message, pressing enter will post it. If you then just use VO CMD H you will move to the next persons status message or next news story. Hope that this helps you. >> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >> >> On 19/06/2011, at 4:23 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >> >>> Thank you. That may be helpful. What I really need to know is this. Where do I click to post a comment to someone's status, and then how do I get back to where I was reading all the status lines? Thanks. >>> >>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>> >>>> Hi tracy. I use the main site with Voiceover with no problems. Sometimes things don't quite behave as expected but once you get used to how the page behaves, it works great. The one thing that I will say, is this. When your writing a status message, the easiest way to go is to set your roter to heading navigation, then press 2. This will take you to your news feed. If you then press Vo CMD J, you'll be taken to the edit box for writing status. Hope that this helps. >>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>> >>>> On 13/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>>> >>>>> Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Jun 20 01:15:29 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:15:29 +1000 Subject: Amadeus Pro 2.0 Message-ID: Just downloaded this update though haven't done much in the way of trying it. There's an upgrade cost so I'll attend to that later on this week . From khwicca at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 02:39:26 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:39:26 -0400 Subject: Script question Message-ID: <0C8072E0-51FA-4180-88C2-29F6CCD81D89@gmail.com> I have downloaded the move file script, but I don't know what to do with it now that it's in my downloads folder. I've never worked with an apple script file before and I don't know what's next. Thanks. Kristeen From billd at insightbb.com Mon Jun 20 04:37:22 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (William Deatherage) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:37:22 -0400 Subject: document scanning programs for the iphone Message-ID: Hello, I heard there are programs for the Iphone that allow you to scan documents. has anyone heard of these programs and what kind of luck did you have with them? I thought it would be good for scanning minuews in restaurants and things like that when you are out. Thanks for any information in advance. Bill Deatherage From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 05:08:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:08:58 -0700 Subject: Amadeus Pro 2.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not sure I'll upgrade. I can't right now. I did read the features and some poeple ont e amadeus list are still having issues. On Jun 19, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Just downloaded this update though haven't done much in the way of trying it. > > There's an upgrade cost so I'll attend to that later on this week . > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From chaas0217 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 05:42:26 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:42:26 -0600 Subject: document scanning programs for the iphone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <854F6326-78F3-4DD0-942A-D970C3A926F6@gmail.com> Hello William: There is an app called Prizmo that people are having good luck with. It appears to work best with the higher resolution camera in iPhone 4. Carolyn On Jun 19, 2011, at 9:37 PM, William Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I heard there are programs for the Iphone that allow you to scan documents. has anyone heard of these programs and what kind of luck did you have with them? I thought it would be good for scanning minuews in restaurants and things like that when you are out. > Thanks for any information in advance. > Bill Deatherage > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Jun 20 06:04:38 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:04:38 -1000 Subject: me.com Web Site In-Reply-To: <288DBBE0-1E4F-4CEC-975E-C19DBF3A5F7B@verizon.net> References: <288DBBE0-1E4F-4CEC-975E-C19DBF3A5F7B@verizon.net> Message-ID: <7382F858-EE75-4F5F-B09C-FE5A4C7592CC@mac.com> Hi Matthew, I just answered this question about using "Find My iPhone" from the MobileMe web site, so I'll paste in my answer. It's possible to use this feature from the MobileMe web site, but I almost always use this through the "Find My iPhone" app on an iOS device -- it doesn't even have to be my own, as long as the free "Find My iPhone" app is loaded onto it, and I can log into the app with my MobileMe login and password (or the login and password that you get just for "Find My iPhone" if you are not a MobileMe Subscriber). The more general answer of how to avoid the busy signals on MobileMe is to add the selection of the MobileMe service you want to go to, after the address (e.g. "me.com/find", "me.com/mail", "me.com/account", "me.com/calendar", etc.). This bypasses the javascript that attempts to offer you these selections, and that generates the busy signals. It has also been suggested that unchecking the box for "Keyboard focus follows VoiceOver cursor" can alleviate the hanging problem at the "me.com" login screen. Unchecking that box under the Navigation menu of VoiceOver Utility doesn't affect the instructions I outline below, but you'll want to move your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver (VO+Command+F5) before doing your sign out on the "clickable" Sign Out option. (Press the "View Account, Get Help, or Sign Out" button with either VO-Space or by pressing the up and down arrow keys if QuickNav is on, but then if you use item chooser menu to move to "Sign Out", make sure to move your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor with VO-Command-F5 before you try to "click" it with either VO-Space or with a press of the up and down arrow keys via QuickNav). Subject: Using Find My iPhone from the MobileMe page on the Mac Date: June 18, 2011 It is possible to use Find My iPhone (or iPod Touch or iPad) from the MobileMe web page on your Mac, although it's easier to use the "Find My iPhone" feature on another iOS device that has the free "Find My iPhone" app loaded. Since your information is associated with your login and password, you can use that app from any iOS device which has this free app loaded (not just one that you own) to find your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. Bryan's correct that there's some interaction with the way javascript works on the MobileMe site to choose your MobileMe service that seems to generate the continuous VoiceOver busy messages. I think this is a result of the way MobileMe was re-written in Ajax, which uses javascript to dynamically update the screen. (This is my reconstruction after the fact -- practically speaking, I just found that bypassing the selection of which MobileMe service I wanted by adding a slash after the MobileMe URL and typing the service name let me get onto the site without the VoiceOver busy messages.) John Panarese saved my posting of this MobileMe work-around on his "Tips and Tricks for the Mac and OS X" page at the MacForTheBlind site: http://macfortheblind.com/?page_id=195 This (logging in with the "/find" appended) is actually what the help information for using "Find My iPhone" directs you to do: "Go to me.com/find and sign in using your Apple ID email address and password." Anyway, I'll outline how I access the "Find My iPhone" feature at MobileMe. I'm a MobileMe subscriber, but I assume it works the same way for folks who just register for "Find My iPhone". 1. Under VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8), I set my "Web" options to Navigate webpages by DOM order, and under the options for "When loading a new webpage" I have the box for "Move the VoiceOver cursor to it" checked. 2. Use the URL: http://www.me.com/find (Press Command-L to highlight the address bar, then type in "me.com/find" and press "Return" to go to the MobileMe site where you'll be positioned at the login text box) 3. In the login text box type in your username, press tab to move to the password text box, then press "Return" to log into the page for "Find My iPhone" 4. On the "MobileMe Find My iPhone" page, with QuickNav on (turned on or off by pressing the left and right arrow keys simultaneously), navigate (by pressing the right arrow key) to "Devices", then continue to navigate down the list to the iOS device you want to locate. There's an entry for the registered device (e.g., "Teresa's iPhone", "Esther's iPad", etc., followed by a location status (e.g., "Locating", "Located 1 minute ago", "No location available"). 5. Select the device you want to find from the "Devices" list by pressing the Up and Down arrow keys simultaneously (with QuickNav on) or with VO-Space. You can do this from either the device line or the location status line. The web page will update to display a map to the right of the "Devices" list with the location of your selected device shown. This is similar to the way your location is shown in the default "Maps" app on iOS devices. 6. Navigate to your selected device in the map view with item chooser menu (VO-i). This is the second entry in the list (e.g., if you typed "i p h" and got a list of two items, the first "Teresa's iPhone" is the entry in the "Devices" list; the second entry is device you found. Arrow down and select it by either pressing "Return" or VO-Space.) 7. Activate the selected device either by pressing the up and down arrow keys simultaneously (If QuickNav is on), or with VO-Space. 8. Navigate through the options with your Right arrow key. You'll hear the device named (e.g. "iPhone", "iPod Touch", "iPad"), location status (e.g. "Located 2 minutes ago"), followed by buttons for "Display Message or Play Sound?", "Lock?", and "Wipe?". 9. Activate the button you want by pressing the up and down arrow keys simultaneously or with VO-Space. Choosing the button to "Display Message or Play Sound?" brings up a dialog window with the box to "Play a sound for 2 minutes" checked. Pressing "Return" immediately activates this default selection, and will cause the selected device to play sonar pings as though from submarine sonar scans for two minutes, or until you find and deactivate the message on the screen (assuming your device has battery power left and is connected to the internet). Pressing "Escape" cancels the dialog window. (You can also navigate to the "Cancel" and "Send" buttons and press them with VO-Space or the Up+Down Arrow key combination). You can also type in a message to be sent and displayed on the screen of your device (e.g. "Please call this phone number?"). Left arrow with QuickNav to the message area if you want to type one in. Comments: I find this all very accessible. The screen layout is fairly simple, and I was actually able to log in and navigate the MobileMe Find My iPhone screen in the Atomic Browser app on my iPad to confirm this layout. (For some reason Mobile Safari will not let you log into MobileMe pages from iOS devices.) I usually allow sufficient time for the device to be located before I select if for finding, since that's typically only 10 or 20 seconds. I also give the page a few seconds to load the map for the located device after I've selected it before trying to send the command to play a sound. (I haven't tried to use either the "Lock" or "Wipe" functions.) You can navigate to the located device with your right arrow key with QuickNav on, too. It's just that you'll hear VoiceOver announce a group of odd sounding blocks that are map image sections between the end of the "Devices" list and your selected device if you do that, but the page is perfectly explorable with VoiceOver navigation. Using item chooser menu, which can also be used to find "Devices" in step 4, is just slightly simpler and faster. There's also a button to refresh the page if you want to update your devices "Find" action. (I guess this could be useful if the iPhone was left in a moving car.) The map display is purely visual, with no coordinate information, but you could do a screen capture, either of the entire screen (Command+Shift+3) or just of the browser window, and attach it to an email to a sighted friend, asking them to tell you the location. HTH. I'd be curious if anyone who also uses a Window screen reader could give instructions on how to navigate the "MobileMe Find My iPhone" page based on this information. Cheers, Esther On Jun 19, 2011, at 09:50, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hello. I have Find my iPhone installed on my iPhone 4. In order to track your iPhone, you go to the me.com site. Unfortunately, Safari doesn't seem to like this site. Has anyone else had a problem with this site? > > Also, should be noted that I also have troubles with this site when using Windows. Any ideas? > > Matthew Chao > From support at mac-access.net Mon Jun 20 06:26:56 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 06:26:56 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome; [Please Do Not Reply On List] Message-ID: <05A7B2F4-440C-4499-802F-65946EA3090D@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Currently we are away from home, accessing our systems via our VPN. So I am sorry for the delay. Please do not reply to this thread on list unless your reply has a direct relevance to their Mac use or interest. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome Daniel Venables to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. 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For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From phonerossy at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 08:24:05 2011 From: phonerossy at gmail.com (rossy) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:24:05 +0200 Subject: Script question In-Reply-To: <0C8072E0-51FA-4180-88C2-29F6CCD81D89@gmail.com> References: <0C8072E0-51FA-4180-88C2-29F6CCD81D89@gmail.com> Message-ID: hi , here are the istructions : download the script unzip it if it is in zip . open your home folder open library and if there is no services folder , create it . you have to write Services with s capital. copy the script file in the services folder . go to finder and select a folder or a file . now you should see the option in the menu bar under , finder \services . if you do not see it reboot your mac . you can set a keyboard short cut using the system short cut preferences or using the vo comander . let me know if you need other info . rossy Il giorno 20/giu/2011, alle ore 03.39, Kristeen Hughes ha scritto: > I have downloaded the move file script, but I don't know what to do with it now that it's in my downloads folder. I've never worked with an apple script file before and I don't know what's next. From support at mac-access.net Mon Jun 20 11:39:20 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:39:20 +0100 Subject: Take Control Clients; Attention Message-ID: <0A6418EB-A4E3-49B4-AE57-3612DE5F04FB@mac-access.net> Hello everybody It has to happen when we're away. Our file server has apparently crashed and we're not present to fix it. We will do our very best to fix it remotely as at least the host machine itself is responding so I have remote desktop access. But we're heading off to the tennis very shortly, in fact imminently so I'll try and fix this when we get back to the hotel. I have access via our VPN, but we apologise for any short term inconvenience. Websites and everything else are still being served, but the actual file server is down. Lynne From gunn at tznet.com Mon Jun 20 11:42:17 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 05:42:17 -0500 Subject: Amadeus Pro 2.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D3B2B7D-7B91-42F2-B87A-A63AAC6FF015@tznet.com> Hello: I upgraded and so far, seems to be ok however I'd be curious in the issues you mentioned. Since I recently purchased the program pretty good discount. John On Jun 19, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Not sure I'll upgrade. I can't right now. I did read the features and some poeple ont e amadeus list are still having issues. > On Jun 19, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Just downloaded this update though haven't done much in the way of trying it. >> >> There's an upgrade cost so I'll attend to that later on this week . >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 16:06:15 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:06:15 -0400 Subject: DVDRemaster: Encoding DVD into M4V with audio In-Reply-To: References: <0F3A344D-6C51-4C41-8C7D-EF56DABF880C@mac-access.net> <51255D37-C6CD-4F2C-849E-4EC09D78ED64@gmail.com> Message-ID: <98FC90A4-1844-470B-91EF-CBACCA5DFD37@gmail.com> Please consider posting the solution here as I'm sure others who have DVD Remaster besides myself have been following this thread with interest. I thought that's the purpose for lists in the first place :)? On Jun 19, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > let me contact youu off list. We've had to delay our departure yet again so we won't be leaving for another couple of hours. > > I will email you now. > > Lynne > > On 19 Jun 2011, at 17:17, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi Lynne, > > That's what I figured, too, but supposedly the audio tracks represent languages.. They're all selected, or at least the ones I need, and I still hear nothing which is the initial problem. > > So, if you can elaborate, I'd be grateful. :) > > Regards, > Nic > On Jun 19, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Nic >> >> Your problem is that you don't select a language given what you have said. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 19 Jun 2011, at 14:25, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Upon the recommendation to grab DVDRemaster, I went ahead and I'm actually really loving this application. I'm only having a few problems, and according to the user guide this shouldn't be happening since I'm apparently doing it correctly, according to the tutorials. >> >> What I wish to do is convert a DVD into M4V format, so it can be played on my iPhone. i'm following these steps. >> >> 1. I select the "Export" tab >> 2. Select "iPhone/iPod" from the "Format" popup. >> 3. Select the "Normal" setting from the preset popup. >> 4. In the table, I make sure the audio track is selected. >> >> This is the outcome I should get, but I don't get what it says is supposed to happen. >> >> Export to iPod/iPhone >> >> Video: Apple MPEG4 Compressor >> >> Size: width: 480 px >> >> Frame rate: original frame rate >> >> Data rate: 1.50 mbps >> >> Audio: MPEG-4 Audio @ 44.10 kHz >> >> All the video settings apply, but it seems to skip the audio portion for some reason, even though it clearly shows that audio will be included in the M4V file. I don't understand this. I don't want to extract raw streams, but I want to include all the contents in that single m4v file which is supposedly possible using these settings. >> >> Has anyone had actual experience with DVDRemaster, and can any of those people offer an educated guess? >> >> Thanks. :) >> >> Regards, >> Nic<--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 20 17:42:52 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:42:52 +0100 Subject: Amadeus Pro 2.0 In-Reply-To: <2D3B2B7D-7B91-42F2-B87A-A63AAC6FF015@tznet.com> References: <2D3B2B7D-7B91-42F2-B87A-A63AAC6FF015@tznet.com> Message-ID: Hello John On 20 Jun 2011, at 11:42, John Gunn wrote: ? I upgraded and so far, seems to be ok however I'd be curious in the issues you mentioned. Since I recently purchased the program pretty good discount. We also upgraded but although I haven't played with it much, it looks more or less the same as the latest v1 release to me. Lynne [Live at Wimbledon 2011] From gunn at tznet.com Mon Jun 20 17:47:01 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (gunn at tznet.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:47:01 -0400 Subject: Amadeus Pro 2.0 Message-ID: <380-22011612016471444@M2W138.mail2web.com> Hello Lynne: Yep, I don't notice much difference either but I'm wondering is there a list for blind users of Amadeus Pro? Have fun. John Original Message: ----------------- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:42:52 +0100 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Re: Amadeus Pro 2.0 Hello John On 20 Jun 2011, at 11:42, John Gunn wrote: ? I upgraded and so far, seems to be ok however I'd be curious in the issues you mentioned. Since I recently purchased the program pretty good discount. We also upgraded but although I haven't played with it much, it looks more or less the same as the latest v1 release to me. Lynne [Live at Wimbledon 2011] <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Jun 20 17:48:16 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:48:16 +1000 Subject: Amadeus Pro 2.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2D3B2B7D-7B91-42F2-B87A-A63AAC6FF015@tznet.com> Message-ID: A few obvious differences I've seen though again, I've not yet played much. There's a "Track" menu in the bar, that didn't used to be there. I've also read the "Version History" and I draw people's attention to this document, here you really notice what's been added, one of the most interesting features for me at least is the ability for the Batch Processor to do "Multi Threading" when processing batches of files so batch processing now should be much faster than it was. Also Amadeus Pro is now a 64 bit application for operating systems of 10.6 and above. On 21/06/2011, at 2:42 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello John > > On 20 Jun 2011, at 11:42, John Gunn wrote: > > ? I upgraded and so far, seems to be ok however I'd be curious in the issues you mentioned. > > Since I recently purchased the program pretty good discount. > > We also upgraded but although I haven't played with it much, it looks more or less the same as the latest v1 release to me. > > Lynne [Live at Wimbledon 2011] > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 17:49:24 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:49:24 -0700 Subject: Amadeus Pro 2.0 In-Reply-To: <380-22011612016471444@M2W138.mail2web.com> References: <380-22011612016471444@M2W138.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <82351974-D0DE-46F3-9857-737A2C6C4F9D@gmail.com> There is a list but it's not for blind users. I am on that list though and he does discuss everything on there and the poeple on there try there best to help out and they have given me some tips. I can't remember where to find the link for the list but try the amadeus homepage and go from there. Good luck. On Jun 20, 2011, at 9:47 AM, gunn at tznet.com wrote: > Hello Lynne: > > Yep, I don't notice much difference either but I'm wondering is there a > list for blind users of Amadeus Pro? > > Have fun. > > John > > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:42:52 +0100 > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Subject: Re: Amadeus Pro 2.0 > > > Hello John > > On 20 Jun 2011, at 11:42, John Gunn wrote: > > ? I upgraded and so far, seems to be ok however I'd be curious in the > issues you mentioned. > > Since I recently purchased the program pretty good discount. > > We also upgraded but although I haven't played with it much, it looks more > or less the same as the latest v1 release to me. > > Lynne [Live at Wimbledon 2011] > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 20 17:49:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:49:31 +0100 Subject: DVDRemaster: Encoding DVD into M4V with audio In-Reply-To: <98FC90A4-1844-470B-91EF-CBACCA5DFD37@gmail.com> References: <0F3A344D-6C51-4C41-8C7D-EF56DABF880C@mac-access.net> <51255D37-C6CD-4F2C-849E-4EC09D78ED64@gmail.com> <98FC90A4-1844-470B-91EF-CBACCA5DFD37@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Geoff On 20 Jun 2011, at 16:06, Geoff Waaler wrote: ? Please consider posting the solution here as I'm sure others who have DVD Remaster besides myself have been following this thread with interest. I thought that's the purpose for lists in the first place :)? You're not affected by this Geoff, it won't apply in your case. Your DVD Remaster version is different to that which Nic and I use. I can't go into details because of an NDA. I hope you understand. Lynne Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 20 17:52:28 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:52:28 +0100 Subject: Amadeus Pro 2.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2D3B2B7D-7B91-42F2-B87A-A63AAC6FF015@tznet.com> Message-ID: Hello Dane On 20 Jun 2011, at 17:48, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? I've also read the "Version History" and I draw people's attention to this document, here you really notice what's been added, one of the most interesting features for me at least is the ability for the Batch Processor to do "Multi Threading" when processing batches of files so batch processing now should be much faster than it was. You'll appreciate I'm sure that we're not at home just now so I, like you, haven't played much. I will do more research when we get home. I upgraded because of the 64-bit addition which I did see listed. Lynne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Jun 20 18:01:19 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:01:19 +0100 Subject: Ripping CDs revisited Message-ID: Sorry to drag this old chestnut up again, but having looked through the list archives I don't think we ever resolved a query I had. Did anyone ever find a decent CD ripping program which will convert to WAV? *before anyone responds and says "itunes" I remind you all I used the word "decent" here, and iTunes is far from that. D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 20 18:01:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:01:32 +0100 Subject: Amadeus Pro 2.0 In-Reply-To: <380-22011612016471444@M2W138.mail2web.com> References: <380-22011612016471444@M2W138.mail2web.com> Message-ID: hello John On 20 Jun 2011, at 17:47, gunn at tznet.com wrote: ? Yep, I don't notice much difference either but I'm wondering is there a list for blind users of Amadeus Pro? Well; not being blind myself I guess I didn't look hard enough. To be totally fair, I haven't read the version history and as Dane quite rightly points out that really is a prerequisite in a case like this. . But we're not at home just now and I'm going to leave further testing until we are. I don't want to do Martin any injustice and I'm sure he wouldn't have made it a paid upgrade if there was nothing new. :) Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 20 18:02:48 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:02:48 +0100 Subject: Ripping CDs revisited In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Donal Try XLD, it's free and it's the best. Lynne On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Sorry to drag this old chestnut up again, but having looked through the list archives I don't think we ever resolved a query I had. Did anyone ever find a decent CD ripping program which will convert to WAV? *before anyone responds and says "itunes" I remind you all I used the word "decent" here, and iTunes is far from that. D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Jun 20 18:05:20 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:05:20 +0100 Subject: Ripping CDs revisited In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8B7C8217-49F2-4ED6-9425-386DD27B7CC6@computing.dcu.ie> Thank you as ever Lynne. I'm listening to the 5-live wimbledon commentary as I do every year. Hope you're both enjoying it. On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Donal > > Try XLD, it's free and it's the best. > > Lynne > > On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Sorry to drag this old chestnut up again, but having looked through the list archives I don't think we ever resolved a query I had. Did anyone ever find a decent CD ripping program which will convert to WAV? *before anyone responds and says "itunes" I remind you all I used the word "decent" here, and iTunes is far from that. > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 18:27:30 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:27:30 -0700 Subject: Ripping CDs revisited In-Reply-To: <8B7C8217-49F2-4ED6-9425-386DD27B7CC6@computing.dcu.ie> References: <8B7C8217-49F2-4ED6-9425-386DD27B7CC6@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <050E2E2A-CE65-4266-9DB2-A0F0B18D243C@gmail.com> Oh xld rips cds? I've only been using it to split cue files lol! I"l have to try it when I start ripping my 3 to 500 cds I have. Take care. On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:05 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Thank you as ever Lynne. I'm listening to the 5-live wimbledon commentary as I do every year. Hope you're both enjoying it. > On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Donal >> >> Try XLD, it's free and it's the best. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> Sorry to drag this old chestnut up again, but having looked through the list archives I don't think we ever resolved a query I had. Did anyone ever find a decent CD ripping program which will convert to WAV? *before anyone responds and says "itunes" I remind you all I used the word "decent" here, and iTunes is far from that. >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From moriond at mac.com Mon Jun 20 18:47:27 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:47:27 -1000 Subject: Ripping CDs revisited In-Reply-To: <050E2E2A-CE65-4266-9DB2-A0F0B18D243C@gmail.com> References: <8B7C8217-49F2-4ED6-9425-386DD27B7CC6@computing.dcu.ie> <050E2E2A-CE65-4266-9DB2-A0F0B18D243C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9A21EB46-7882-4198-A959-BA0F68A60138@mac.com> Hi Sarah and D?nal, X Lossless Decoder has supported CD ripping since mid 2008. I believe that one of the reasons that Lynne and Gordon like it, apart from its support of FLAC and cue sheets, is that it also supports AccurateRip technology. Cheers, Esther On Jun 20, 2011, at 07:27, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Oh xld rips cds? I've only been using it to split cue files lol! I"l have to try it when I start ripping my 3 to 500 cds I have. > > > Take care. > > On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:05 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Thank you as ever Lynne. I'm listening to the 5-live wimbledon commentary as I do every year. Hope you're both enjoying it. >> On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Donal >>> >>> Try XLD, it's free and it's the best. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>> Sorry to drag this old chestnut up again, but having looked through the list archives I don't think we ever resolved a query I had. Did anyone ever find a decent CD ripping program which will convert to WAV? *before anyone responds and says "itunes" I remind you all I used the word "decent" here, and iTunes is far from that. >>> >>> D?nal >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Jun 20 18:50:38 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:50:38 +0100 Subject: Ripping CDs revisited In-Reply-To: <9A21EB46-7882-4198-A959-BA0F68A60138@mac.com> References: <8B7C8217-49F2-4ED6-9425-386DD27B7CC6@computing.dcu.ie> <050E2E2A-CE65-4266-9DB2-A0F0B18D243C@gmail.com> <9A21EB46-7882-4198-A959-BA0F68A60138@mac.com> Message-ID: And the reason I like it (having just downloaded it) is that it comes with full source code. So I can tweak it to do some stuff I miss from a nice little program on Windows called CDex. That is, if I need to tweak it. :-) On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:47, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah and D?nal, > > X Lossless Decoder has supported CD ripping since mid 2008. I believe that one of the reasons that Lynne and Gordon like it, apart from its support of FLAC and cue sheets, is that it also supports AccurateRip technology. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 20, 2011, at 07:27, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Oh xld rips cds? I've only been using it to split cue files lol! I"l have to try it when I start ripping my 3 to 500 cds I have. >> >> >> Take care. >> >> On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:05 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Thank you as ever Lynne. I'm listening to the 5-live wimbledon commentary as I do every year. Hope you're both enjoying it. >>> On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Donal >>>> >>>> Try XLD, it's free and it's the best. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>> >>>> Sorry to drag this old chestnut up again, but having looked through the list archives I don't think we ever resolved a query I had. Did anyone ever find a decent CD ripping program which will convert to WAV? *before anyone responds and says "itunes" I remind you all I used the word "decent" here, and iTunes is far from that. >>>> >>>> D?nal >>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lavendar at bell.net Mon Jun 20 19:02:27 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:02:27 -0400 Subject: For Cait; Selecting Non-Contiguous Items In-Reply-To: <65650036-A677-4101-AFF6-5D93CC22B419@mac-access.net> References: <65650036-A677-4101-AFF6-5D93CC22B419@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Lynn, I'm late with this reply, but I have tried this again, and yes, I am definitely pressing the command key, and I'm still getting the quick look panel. I'm following Sara and Esther's directions. Is there someplace where I can double check that the command key is mapped properly? I vaguely remember that there is.. funny it's not working properly here, since it seems to be correct everywhere else.. How strange.. Cait, still stubbornly refusing to delete any mail from this list!(grins) Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net On May 31, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Cait > > Did you do as Sarah suggested, lock the control+option keys? Did you turn off cursor tracking? The quick look panel should only come up when you press space on its own in the finder. Usually if you press Command+Space you get the Spotlight. So although this is a dumb question I will ask it; are you sure you're actually pressing the Command key? I'm Sorry Cait; I don't mean to patronise you. I know you are an intelligent person. But that's all I can think of. The key stroke as to work, unless you've changed some keyboard shortcut and there's a conflict somewhere; could it be? > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lavendar at bell.net Mon Jun 20 19:04:05 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:04:05 -0400 Subject: For Cait; Selecting Non-Contiguous Items In-Reply-To: <282AC413-4591-49F4-84C1-6CFE0CD56F72@gmail.com> References: <65650036-A677-4101-AFF6-5D93CC22B419@mac-access.net> <282AC413-4591-49F4-84C1-6CFE0CD56F72@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi bob, Hmm.. ok, I can give this a go and see what happens. thanks, Cait Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net On May 31, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Bob Hill wrote: > What I've found when doing this is that it works best if I don't lock the VO keys. > Just press "control,option,command" with the spacebar when I want to select an item. > Of course this is when having cursor tracking off. > > Bob Hill > > On May 31, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Cait >> >> Did you do as Sarah suggested, lock the control+option keys? Did you turn off cursor tracking? The quick look panel should only come up when you press space on its own in the finder. Usually if you press Command+Space you get the Spotlight. So although this is a dumb question I will ask it; are you sure you're actually pressing the Command key? I'm Sorry Cait; I don't mean to patronise you. I know you are an intelligent person. But that's all I can think of. The key stroke as to work, unless you've changed some keyboard shortcut and there's a conflict somewhere; could it be? >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lavendar at bell.net Mon Jun 20 19:06:20 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:06:20 -0400 Subject: For Cait; Selecting Non-Contiguous Items In-Reply-To: References: <65650036-A677-4101-AFF6-5D93CC22B419@mac-access.net> <282AC413-4591-49F4-84C1-6CFE0CD56F72@gmail.com> Message-ID: thanks Esther, I've saved this for futre reference. Hope I can actually get this to work. Not sure if it's me or my mac at this point making it not happen-lol! Cait Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net On May 31, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Cait, > > Here's a fully written out description on how to select non-contiguous items (without necessarily locking your VoiceOver keys). Pasting in from past posts: > > I select non-contiguous items using VO-Command-Space to choose tracks after turning off cursor tracking. > This method works for selecting items in Finder and other lists, > columns, etc. If you're in iTunes, and have already interacted with > the songs table and are positioned at your first selection, start at > step 3: > > 1. Interact with the table, column, etc. (VO-Shift-Down Arrow) > 2. Navigate to the first item you want to select > 3. Turn off cursor tracking (VO-Shift-F3) > 4. Navigate to each additional item you want and select with VO- > Command-Space > 5. Turn cursor tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3) > 6. Perform your selected action (Copy, Add to Playlist, etc.) > > Here are some other tips: > ? You can check your selection at any time with VO-F6 > ? VO-Command-Space is a toggle action that can be used to de-select > as well as to select, and the item you have selected or deselected > will get announced each time you perform the command. So, if you > checked your selection with VO-F6 and discovered there was an item you > didn't mean to select, just navigate to it and use VO-Command-Space > again to de-select the item. > ? If you are going through a long list of items, I find it easiest to > lock my VoiceOver keys (VO-Semi-Colon); then I typically just go up > and down the list with my arrow keys and press Command-Space to select > or de-select items and press F6 to check selections. I unlock my > VoiceOver keys by pressing Semi-Colon when I'm done. Of course, other > navigation commands, such as moving to the top or bottom of a list > with VO-Home or VO-End (VO-Fn-Shift-Left arrow and VO-Fn-Shift-RIght > arrow) also work. > > So, if I were in the iTunes songs table and wanted to move > through a long list of tracks to make selections, I'd start out in the > song name column, after having first winnowed down the list by using > the File Browser (toggled on or off with Command-B) or the search text > field to shorten the list of interest by matching to a specific album, > artist, or other search term, and move to my first selection. Then I > would do: > > 1. Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3) > 2. Lock VoiceOver keys (VO-Semi-colon) > 3. Arrow up or down to items of interest and select with Command-Space > 3a. Optionally check selections with F6; modify selections by arrowing > to the desired item and deselect with Command-Space > 4. Unlock VoiceOver keys by pressing Semi-colon > 5. Turn cursor tracking on (VO-Shift-F3) > 6. Perform the action you want, e.g. New playlist from selection with > Command-Shift-N; Add to Playlist with VO-Shift-M and select from the > contextual menu, etc. > > HTH. And remember to turn cursor tracking back on at the end (VO-Shift-F3)! > > Cheers, > > Esther > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 20 19:06:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:06:32 +0100 Subject: Ripping CDs revisited In-Reply-To: <050E2E2A-CE65-4266-9DB2-A0F0B18D243C@gmail.com> References: <8B7C8217-49F2-4ED6-9425-386DD27B7CC6@computing.dcu.ie> <050E2E2A-CE65-4266-9DB2-A0F0B18D243C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8610FF58-25E3-4E96-AB2A-10318933743A@mac-access.net> Hello Sarah On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:27, Sarah Alawami wrote: ? Oh xld rips cds? I've only been using it to split cue files lol! I"l have to try it when I start ripping my 3 to 500 cds I have. Look in the top menu bar and you'll see what you need there. Lynne From moriond at mac.com Mon Jun 20 19:09:04 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:09:04 -1000 Subject: Ripping CDs revisited In-Reply-To: References: <8B7C8217-49F2-4ED6-9425-386DD27B7CC6@computing.dcu.ie> <050E2E2A-CE65-4266-9DB2-A0F0B18D243C@gmail.com> <9A21EB46-7882-4198-A959-BA0F68A60138@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi D?nal, There's a descriptive summary of XLD at the HydrogenAudio Knowlegebase: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=XLD This is not as up to date as the XLD pages, but may have some useful links and descriptions if you want to read more about source code, plug-ins, and library dependencies as part of a general discussion. This may also be of interest for links to other HydrogenAudio resources. By the way, I use a LAME plug-in for iTunes for MP3 ripping that I got several years ago from a HydrogenAudio forum post. Cheers, Esther On Jun 20, 2011, at 07:50, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > And the reason I like it (having just downloaded it) is that it comes with full source code. So I can tweak it to do some stuff I miss from a nice little program on Windows called CDex. That is, if I need to tweak it. :-) > On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:47, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Sarah and D?nal, >> >> X Lossless Decoder has supported CD ripping since mid 2008. I believe that one of the reasons that Lynne and Gordon like it, apart from its support of FLAC and cue sheets, is that it also supports AccurateRip technology. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Jun 20, 2011, at 07:27, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Oh xld rips cds? I've only been using it to split cue files lol! I"l have to try it when I start ripping my 3 to 500 cds I have. >>> >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:05 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you as ever Lynne. I'm listening to the 5-live wimbledon commentary as I do every year. Hope you're both enjoying it. >>>> On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Donal >>>>> >>>>> Try XLD, it's free and it's the best. >>>>> >>>>> Lynne >>>>> >>>>> On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sorry to drag this old chestnut up again, but having looked through the list archives I don't think we ever resolved a query I had. Did anyone ever find a decent CD ripping program which will convert to WAV? *before anyone responds and says "itunes" I remind you all I used the word "decent" here, and iTunes is far from that. >>>>> >>>>> D?nal >>>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Jun 20 19:11:33 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:11:33 +0100 Subject: Ripping CDs revisited In-Reply-To: <9A21EB46-7882-4198-A959-BA0F68A60138@mac.com> References: <8B7C8217-49F2-4ED6-9425-386DD27B7CC6@computing.dcu.ie> <050E2E2A-CE65-4266-9DB2-A0F0B18D243C@gmail.com> <9A21EB46-7882-4198-A959-BA0F68A60138@mac.com> Message-ID: hello Esther On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:47, Esther wrote: ? X Lossless Decoder has supported CD ripping since mid 2008. I believe that one of the reasons that Lynne and Gordon like it, apart from its support of FLAC and cue sheets, is that it also supports AccurateRip technology. You are quite right. But that's not the only reason; it also is extremely configurable and accessible. It allows for excellent editing of metadata and iTunes compatibility. As I said it's the best there is because it's an all-in-one solution that does every and does it well. I personally would, should they ever decide to make the programme shareware, more than happily buy it. It's worth buying and the authors have clearly put a lot of effort and thought into it. Lynne From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Jun 20 19:34:27 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 04:34:27 +1000 Subject: 1 Password, Text Expander and more! in an unbeatable value for money software bundle Message-ID: Okay, you've got just over 9 days to take advantage of this package of software titles for $49.00 I know that 1 Password and Text Expander are perfectly accessible as I use them here all the other time, haven't tried the other titles yet but even so, $49.00 for 1 Password and Text Expander alone is giving the software away . From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 19:40:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:40:39 -0700 Subject: Ripping CDs revisited In-Reply-To: <8610FF58-25E3-4E96-AB2A-10318933743A@mac-access.net> References: <8B7C8217-49F2-4ED6-9425-386DD27B7CC6@computing.dcu.ie> <050E2E2A-CE65-4266-9DB2-A0F0B18D243C@gmail.com> <8610FF58-25E3-4E96-AB2A-10318933743A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <53C70FEC-A4BC-48BD-B1CC-683ABDD9E9DE@gmail.com> I will once i haul the box of stuff upstairs. I believe I did see it but will have to play with it. Good luck and thanks.. On Jun 20, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:27, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > ? Oh xld rips cds? I've only been using it to split cue files lol! I"l have to try it when I start ripping my 3 to 500 cds I have. > > Look in the top menu bar and you'll see what you need there. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 20:20:23 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:20:23 -0700 Subject: Koder for iPad now available Message-ID: <3A6219B6-D20C-4076-9D31-A051584280B6@gmail.com> Koder for iPad now available Koder is a code editor for the iPad. It many features including syntax highlighting, snippet manager, tabbed editing, find and replace code, editor theme, remote and local files connection. ? Syntax Highlighting ? Project Based ? Built In Snippet Manager ? Tabbed editing ? Find and replace code ? Previewer Browser with View Source function ? Editor theme ? Extra Key / Additional Keys on Virtual Keyboard with open+close brackets keys ? FTP Connection, Dropbox, iDisk, local ipad file storage ? Sophisticated File Browser ? Expandable editing space ? Bluetooth Keyboard Support If you pick this one up, let us know what you think! Trailer and screenshots after the break. [$5.99 - iTunes link] Have an app you?d love to see featured on TiPb? Email us at iosapps at tipb.com, tell us about your app (include an iTunes link), and we?ll take a look. Koder for iPad now available is a story by TiPb. This feed is sponsored by The iPhone Blog Store. http://bit.ly/meq0tl From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Mon Jun 20 20:49:09 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:49:09 +0100 Subject: For Cait; Selecting Non-Contiguous Items In-Reply-To: References: <65650036-A677-4101-AFF6-5D93CC22B419@mac-access.net> <282AC413-4591-49F4-84C1-6CFE0CD56F72@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7C252285-22B8-409C-8B15-97DD0F1C2646@virginmedia.com> Hi Cait! Ok if both the left and right command keys do not seem to do the operation then it might be worth having a look in system pref's! Go to the key board button and select, then make sure the keyboard tab is selected! Then scroll to the command button and if it says no action then enter that menu and select command! If that is not the problem then I'm stuck! Or it says anything else than command! Then change it to command! hth Colin On 20 Jun 2011, at 19:06, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > thanks Esther, I've saved this for futre reference. Hope I can actually get this to work. Not sure if it's me or my mac at this point making it not happen-lol! > > Cait > > Caitlyn Furness > lavendar at bell.net > > > > On May 31, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Cait, >> >> Here's a fully written out description on how to select non-contiguous items (without necessarily locking your VoiceOver keys). Pasting in from past posts: >> >> I select non-contiguous items using VO-Command-Space to choose tracks after turning off cursor tracking. >> This method works for selecting items in Finder and other lists, >> columns, etc. If you're in iTunes, and have already interacted with >> the songs table and are positioned at your first selection, start at >> step 3: >> >> 1. Interact with the table, column, etc. (VO-Shift-Down Arrow) >> 2. Navigate to the first item you want to select >> 3. Turn off cursor tracking (VO-Shift-F3) >> 4. Navigate to each additional item you want and select with VO- >> Command-Space >> 5. Turn cursor tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3) >> 6. Perform your selected action (Copy, Add to Playlist, etc.) >> >> Here are some other tips: >> ? You can check your selection at any time with VO-F6 >> ? VO-Command-Space is a toggle action that can be used to de-select >> as well as to select, and the item you have selected or deselected >> will get announced each time you perform the command. So, if you >> checked your selection with VO-F6 and discovered there was an item you >> didn't mean to select, just navigate to it and use VO-Command-Space >> again to de-select the item. >> ? If you are going through a long list of items, I find it easiest to >> lock my VoiceOver keys (VO-Semi-Colon); then I typically just go up >> and down the list with my arrow keys and press Command-Space to select >> or de-select items and press F6 to check selections. I unlock my >> VoiceOver keys by pressing Semi-Colon when I'm done. Of course, other >> navigation commands, such as moving to the top or bottom of a list >> with VO-Home or VO-End (VO-Fn-Shift-Left arrow and VO-Fn-Shift-RIght >> arrow) also work. >> >> So, if I were in the iTunes songs table and wanted to move >> through a long list of tracks to make selections, I'd start out in the >> song name column, after having first winnowed down the list by using >> the File Browser (toggled on or off with Command-B) or the search text >> field to shorten the list of interest by matching to a specific album, >> artist, or other search term, and move to my first selection. Then I >> would do: >> >> 1. Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3) >> 2. Lock VoiceOver keys (VO-Semi-colon) >> 3. Arrow up or down to items of interest and select with Command-Space >> 3a. Optionally check selections with F6; modify selections by arrowing >> to the desired item and deselect with Command-Space >> 4. Unlock VoiceOver keys by pressing Semi-colon >> 5. Turn cursor tracking on (VO-Shift-F3) >> 6. Perform the action you want, e.g. New playlist from selection with >> Command-Shift-N; Add to Playlist with VO-Shift-M and select from the >> contextual menu, etc. >> >> HTH. And remember to turn cursor tracking back on at the end (VO-Shift-F3)! >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Mon Jun 20 21:55:14 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:55:14 -0400 Subject: Using facebook on a Mac? In-Reply-To: References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> <05D5410B-CBDE-4813-A7AB-7A0533A06A20@nc.rr.com> <42FC6CB1-347C-4FCD-BA59-3B6D3DFBD033@me.com> <99553D69-F26D-4C4A-88DA-9580C417CA20@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: Ok. But how do I get to where I can even read the comments others have posted? This is my problem. I can't even get to the page or screen or whatever you are talking about. Thank you. I know you are trying to help. Can someone walk me through step by step how they read a status line, then read the comments other people have made, and then leave their own comment? Maybe that will give me the information I need. This process needs to be just going to either the mobile facebook page or the regular one. I have not found an app. I downloaded one, but it has a bunch of buttons and seems to do nothing when I open it. (sigh) Tracy Duffy tracyduffy at nc.rr.com On Jun 19, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Tracy! > When you are at the thread you wish to comment on! > Just right arrow through any other post's that people have made! > Ignore that comment button! > You will get to a text field for you to make your own comment! > Just interact with the field and type! > Do not use the return/enter key until your ready to post! > And when you are ready just press return and your comment will be added! > hth Colin > > On 19 Jun 2011, at 13:59, Tracy Duffy wrote: > >> Is this using the facebook ap, or just going to the facebook page? And, my problem is that I can't figure out how to get to where I can make a comment to what someone has said. When I click on the link that appears to take me where I want to go, what it actually does is take me to that person's wall. Apparently, I'm not making my problem clear, but I don't know how else to explain it. Thanks. >> >> Tracy Duffy >> tracyduffy at nc.rr.com >> >> >> >> On Jun 19, 2011, at 1:42 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >> >>> Hi Tracey. to things to be aware of. If you write a comment response to a status message, pressing enter will post it. If you then just use VO CMD H you will move to the next persons status message or next news story. Hope that this helps you. >>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>> >>> On 19/06/2011, at 4:23 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you. That may be helpful. What I really need to know is this. Where do I click to post a comment to someone's status, and then how do I get back to where I was reading all the status lines? Thanks. >>>> >>>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi tracy. I use the main site with Voiceover with no problems. Sometimes things don't quite behave as expected but once you get used to how the page behaves, it works great. The one thing that I will say, is this. When your writing a status message, the easiest way to go is to set your roter to heading navigation, then press 2. This will take you to your news feed. If you then press Vo CMD J, you'll be taken to the edit box for writing status. Hope that this helps. >>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>> >>>>> On 13/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tracyduffy at nc.rr.com Mon Jun 20 21:57:07 2011 From: tracyduffy at nc.rr.com (Tracy Duffy) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:57:07 -0400 Subject: Using facebook on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <6661B44D-B92D-4A90-84F9-C65E5FF5C2B2@virginmedia.com> References: <4070B4C6-2046-413F-A195-7391D34E8AAE@nc.rr.com> <8A175DEF-713E-4FCF-A122-3400B2BE89D4@me.com> <05D5410B-CBDE-4813-A7AB-7A0533A06A20@nc.rr.com> <42FC6CB1-347C-4FCD-BA59-3B6D3DFBD033@me.com> <99553D69-F26D-4C4A-88DA-9580C417CA20@nc.rr.com> <6661B44D-B92D-4A90-84F9-C65E5FF5C2B2@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: Ah. I will give this a try. Maybe this is what I'm missing. Thanks! Tracy Duffy tracyduffy at nc.rr.com On Jun 19, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Tracy! > Me again! > Well I've had a play myself! > And indeed the command that Christopher says does do what he said! > But the command [vo+command+j ] will take you from your friends heading to the options like [like this , make a comment button and also make a comment edit text] > So using that vo+command+j you can get to the text field you want! > And then just do as I suggested in the other post! > hth Colin > > On 19 Jun 2011, at 13:59, Tracy Duffy wrote: > >> Is this using the facebook ap, or just going to the facebook page? And, my problem is that I can't figure out how to get to where I can make a comment to what someone has said. When I click on the link that appears to take me where I want to go, what it actually does is take me to that person's wall. Apparently, I'm not making my problem clear, but I don't know how else to explain it. Thanks. >> >> Tracy Duffy >> tracyduffy at nc.rr.com >> >> >> >> On Jun 19, 2011, at 1:42 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >> >>> Hi Tracey. to things to be aware of. If you write a comment response to a status message, pressing enter will post it. If you then just use VO CMD H you will move to the next persons status message or next news story. Hope that this helps you. >>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>> >>> On 19/06/2011, at 4:23 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you. That may be helpful. What I really need to know is this. Where do I click to post a comment to someone's status, and then how do I get back to where I was reading all the status lines? Thanks. >>>> >>>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi tracy. I use the main site with Voiceover with no problems. Sometimes things don't quite behave as expected but once you get used to how the page behaves, it works great. The one thing that I will say, is this. When your writing a status message, the easiest way to go is to set your roter to heading navigation, then press 2. This will take you to your news feed. If you then press Vo CMD J, you'll be taken to the edit box for writing status. Hope that this helps. >>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>> >>>>> On 13/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone tell me how to best interact with facebook on a mac? This is the first I've used a mac and I go to the mobile site, because that's what worked best with xp and JAWS. Now I can post my own status and read status lines of others, but can't figure out how to comment or like the status of others. Do I need some ap, or is ther a way to get along without one or what? Thanks for any advice. >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Jun 20 22:28:44 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:28:44 -0500 Subject: Script question In-Reply-To: References: <0C8072E0-51FA-4180-88C2-29F6CCD81D89@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8AA742B2-8982-4963-B244-8685D3C70D0C@softcon.com> To run the script without any fanfare, just click on it in finder, and it will load into apple script editor, hit command-r, and you're off and running. That's all there is to it. On Jun 20, 2011, at 2:24 AM, rossy wrote: > hi , > here are the istructions : > download the script > unzip it if it is in zip . > open your home folder > open library and if there is no services folder , create it . you > have to write Services with s capital. > copy the script file in the services folder . > go to finder and select a folder or a file . > now you should see the option in the menu bar under , finder > \services . > if you do not see it reboot your mac . > you can set a keyboard short cut using the system short cut > preferences or using the vo comander . > let me know if you need other info . > rossy > > Il giorno 20/giu/2011, alle ore 03.39, Kristeen Hughes ha scritto: > >> I have downloaded the move file script, but I don't know what to >> do with it now that it's in my downloads folder. I've never worked >> with an apple script file before and I don't know what's next. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- > access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted > to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 21 01:01:12 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:01:12 +1000 Subject: 1Password 3.6 shakes hands with Firefox 5, Lion, and Fluid | Agile Blog Message-ID: <4DFFDF48.2090802@internode.on.net> As you can see, a radical update to 1 Password is now available, all users of the software should read the explanation of the update at the following link. From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 21 01:13:27 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:13:27 +1000 Subject: Marketcircle | Billings Pro - Home Message-ID: Hi! For those who keep a tight schedule and who value their time then perhaps this software called Billings might be of some help to you, its a time management invoice system. If anyone tries it can they let us no how accessible it is? Its cheap enough at the price of $40.00 so that's extra value if its usable. I'd try it myself but this sort of software is not my expertise I'm afraid . From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 21 04:40:35 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:40:35 +1000 Subject: Streaming A Few Of My Favourite Things Message-ID: <4E0012B3.3010809@internode.on.net> Hi everyone! Just wondering if anyone on list is as amazed at the "Home Sharing" capabilities of the Mac and the Ipad as I am? Yet another feature of OS10.6, Itunes and IOS4 which grab the attention of the fertile imagination . For example, I'm looking at an Ipad II but the size of the memory isn't an issue for me now that I can "Share" my Itunes library on my Imac computer with my Ipad and nor is "syncing" the library such an issue any more either. So I share my main Itunes library on my Imac with my Ipad and audio quality is excellent through my bluetooth headset but as yet I haven't found out if one can "Share" a library with an Iphone 3GS? The screen layouts of Ipod on Iphone and Ipad are different so the button to allow the Iphone to detect those computers and other devices with "Home Sharing" enabled is probably hidden away somewhere on the screen . From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 05:00:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:00:50 -0700 Subject: Streaming A Few Of My Favourite Things In-Reply-To: <4E0012B3.3010809@internode.on.net> References: <4E0012B3.3010809@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <1A6298F1-F1D7-4AD0-96F3-C2F6977D123F@gmail.com> Go to settings then itunes, or maybe it's ipod. but my wireless connection is so week that I can't share. it dies when I'm about 20 feet away from the stupid rotor, but when I can get it to work it's amazing! the only thing it does not do is pick up where you left off when the connection drops. That is not fun at all, especially when listening to a very long 17 hour book. On Jun 20, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi everyone! > > Just wondering if anyone on list is as amazed at the "Home Sharing" capabilities of the Mac and the Ipad as I am? Yet another feature of OS10.6, Itunes and IOS4 which grab the attention of the fertile imagination . > > For example, I'm looking at an Ipad II but the size of the memory isn't an issue for me now that I can "Share" my Itunes library on my Imac computer with my Ipad and nor is "syncing" the library such an issue any more either. > > So I share my main Itunes library on my Imac with my Ipad and audio quality is excellent through my bluetooth headset but as yet I haven't found out if one can "Share" a library with an Iphone 3GS? The screen layouts of Ipod on Iphone and Ipad are different so the button to allow the Iphone to detect those computers and other devices with "Home Sharing" enabled is probably hidden away somewhere on the screen . > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 07:16:50 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 23:16:50 -0700 Subject: Ripping CDs revisited In-Reply-To: References: <8B7C8217-49F2-4ED6-9425-386DD27B7CC6@computing.dcu.ie> <050E2E2A-CE65-4266-9DB2-A0F0B18D243C@gmail.com> <9A21EB46-7882-4198-A959-BA0F68A60138@mac.com> Message-ID: The only thing i don't like and it might be an operator error, is that it won't save to artist/album folder. or album folder and track or what not. I saw no way to set this up. On Jun 20, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > hello Esther > > On 20 Jun 2011, at 18:47, Esther wrote: > > ? X Lossless Decoder has supported CD ripping since mid 2008. I believe that one of the reasons that Lynne and Gordon like it, apart from its support of FLAC and cue sheets, is that it also supports AccurateRip technology. > > You are quite right. But that's not the only reason; it also is extremely configurable and accessible. It allows for excellent editing of metadata and iTunes compatibility. As I said it's the best there is because it's an all-in-one solution that does every and does it well. > > I personally would, should they ever decide to make the programme shareware, more than happily buy it. It's worth buying and the authors have clearly put a lot of effort and thought into it. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From weavermicha at googlemail.com Tue Jun 21 08:17:52 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (Michael Weaver) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:17:52 +0100 Subject: CTRL right click Message-ID: Does anyone know what the accessible equivalent of CTRL right click is? I am trying to download some audio brochures from a shopping site only when I press enter I hear the audio and don't download it. I need to save the audio files as target files but don't know the shortcut keys. From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Jun 21 08:49:56 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:49:56 +0200 Subject: CTRL right click In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <174FB025-F831-4B04-A7E8-273CF3C15F55@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Micheal, You can press Control and click the mouse or trackpad to get a contextual menu and select Download, or you can press Option and click the mouse or trackpad to start the download immediately. Cheers, Anne On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Michael Weaver wrote: > Does anyone know what the accessible equivalent of CTRL right click is? > I am trying to download some audio brochures from a shopping site only when > I press enter I hear the audio and don't download it. > I need to save the audio files as target files but don't know the shortcut > keys. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 21 12:38:05 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:38:05 +1000 Subject: Accessing my Mobile Me Idisk from Iphone or Ipad Message-ID: <4E00829D.2000508@internode.on.net> Subject line says it all, anyone know of a way to access the files on my Mobile Me Idisk from Iphone or Ipad? From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 21 12:39:24 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:39:24 +1000 Subject: Streaming A Few Of My Favourite Things In-Reply-To: <1A6298F1-F1D7-4AD0-96F3-C2F6977D123F@gmail.com> References: <4E0012B3.3010809@internode.on.net> <1A6298F1-F1D7-4AD0-96F3-C2F6977D123F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E0082EC.40302@internode.on.net> Good Lord, what are you using there, 2 tin cans on the ends of a piece of string? . On 21/06/2011 2:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Go to settings then itunes, or maybe it's ipod. > > but my wireless connection is so week that I can't share. it dies when I'm about 20 feet away from the stupid rotor, but when I can get it to work it's amazing! > > the only thing it does not do is pick up where you left off when the connection drops. That is not fun at all, especially when listening to a very long 17 hour book. > On Jun 20, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi everyone! >> >> Just wondering if anyone on list is as amazed at the "Home Sharing" capabilities of the Mac and the Ipad as I am? Yet another feature of OS10.6, Itunes and IOS4 which grab the attention of the fertile imagination. >> >> For example, I'm looking at an Ipad II but the size of the memory isn't an issue for me now that I can "Share" my Itunes library on my Imac computer with my Ipad and nor is "syncing" the library such an issue any more either. >> >> So I share my main Itunes library on my Imac with my Ipad and audio quality is excellent through my bluetooth headset but as yet I haven't found out if one can "Share" a library with an Iphone 3GS? The screen layouts of Ipod on Iphone and Ipad are different so the button to allow the Iphone to detect those computers and other devices with "Home Sharing" enabled is probably hidden away somewhere on the screen. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ian456 at me.com Tue Jun 21 12:57:03 2011 From: ian456 at me.com (Ian Robinson) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:57:03 +0100 Subject: Accessing my Mobile Me Idisk from Iphone or Ipad In-Reply-To: <4E00829D.2000508@internode.on.net> References: <4E00829D.2000508@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <428D5736-8AB9-461F-80D0-ADA7D1EFE4F8@me.com> Dane, You need to use the IDisk app; it is free from the App Store. HTH. Ian On 21 Jun 2011, at 12:38, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Subject line says it all, anyone know of a way to access the files on my Mobile Me Idisk from Iphone or Ipad? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Jun 21 14:01:26 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:01:26 +0100 Subject: deleting book marks Message-ID: <07A20ACA-8967-407F-9679-A90AFB49EC59@virginmedia.com> please can anyone help i want to go through my bookmarks and delete the ones i don't use oe need anymore please could you tell me how to do this and simple please many thanks in advance Jules :) From lavendar at bell.net Tue Jun 21 14:11:38 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:11:38 -0400 Subject: selecting things..yet again Message-ID: Hi, Ok, I hate to seem so incredibley dull witted, but here goes again. I've followed both Esther's and Sara's directions about selecting noncontiguous items in a file list and have had a little luck, but am still having problems with it. I know I am doing something wrong, or probably something is amiss with my system's setting or something, but I can't figure out what it is. I have a bunchof music files I am trying to move from my download folder in my home folder to a folder I'm calling "unsorted music". I go to the download folder, open it with command o, interact with the file table. I turn cursor tracking off after I get to the first file I want to move. This is where I start having problems. If I don't lock my vo keys, I get a volume control, because it says a percentage if I use the down arrow to go down the file list for the next file. If I lock the vo keys, I can go down the list so I can select the files I want with the command and spacekeys. After I've slected all the files I want, when I try and navigate to the folder I want to move the files to, I've turned cursor tracking back on with vo shift f 3, all I get is a weird mushy biong sound I've never heard before. I had to restart the mac, actually, and vo said ignore next key press. Also, when I tried this without the vo keys locked, when I checked with vo f 6 to see which files where selected, there was always only one thing selected. I am totally mystified, can anybody figure out what in the green world I am doing to muck this up? Any help greatly appreciated! Thanks, Cait Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net From sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk Tue Jun 21 14:17:49 2011 From: sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk (Sunil Peck) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:17:49 +0100 Subject: selecting things..yet again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0B0E456@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Hi, Unless you lock the voiceover keys, you need to hold down the voiceover keys as you arrow down the list of files. Also, have you either copied or cut the files to the clipboard once you've selected them before you try navigating to where you want to put them? Sunil -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness Sent: 21 June 2011 14:12 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: selecting things..yet again Hi, Ok, I hate to seem so incredibley dull witted, but here goes again. I've followed both Esther's and Sara's directions about selecting noncontiguous items in a file list and have had a little luck, but am still having problems with it. I know I am doing something wrong, or probably something is amiss with my system's setting or something, but I can't figure out what it is. I have a bunchof music files I am trying to move from my download folder in my home folder to a folder I'm calling "unsorted music". I go to the download folder, open it with command o, interact with the file table. I turn cursor tracking off after I get to the first file I want to move. This is where I start having problems. If I don't lock my vo keys, I get a volume control, because it says a percentage if I use the down arrow to go down the file list for the next file. If I lock the vo keys, I can go down the list so I can select the files I want with the command and spacekeys. After I've slected all the files I want, when I try and navigate to the folder I want to move the files to, I've turned cursor tracking back on with vo shift f 3, all I get is a weird mushy biong sound I've never heard before. I had to restart the mac, actually, and vo said ignore next key press. Also, when I tried this without the vo keys locked, when I checked with vo f 6 to see which file s where selected, there was always only one thing selected. I am totally mystified, can anybody figure out what in the green world I am doing to muck this up? Any help greatly appreciated! Thanks, Cait Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by guarantee (number 520866). Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. Our VAT number is 805156939. Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the views of Scope. From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Tue Jun 21 15:29:56 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:29:56 +0100 Subject: deleting book marks In-Reply-To: <07A20ACA-8967-407F-9679-A90AFB49EC59@virginmedia.com> References: <07A20ACA-8967-407F-9679-A90AFB49EC59@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <75BD2B5A-EF0F-46DC-B7D7-D83498BE3844@virginmedia.com> Hi Julie! OK 1. open all bookmarks with option+command+b and you should be put on a search field! 2. use shift+tab to the 1st table [ and if your Mac is set to interact when tabbing] you can up and down through the options and select the one you need! [like menu bar] 3. Then using the tab on it's own you can tab to the next table ]you'll pass through that search field on the way] 4. You'll be in the table of bookmarks in that section just scroll through them and when you get to one you wish to remove! 5. open vo+shift+m and in that menu is a delete and just vo space on it and that bookmark will be gone! 6. When your done in there just shift+tab back to the 1st table and select one of the other options that might have more bookmarks you need to delete! And do the same as before! I don't know myself [have not tried] you might just be able to use delete on a bookmark [save's opening the vo+shift+m ] if that works! :] 7. And finally when your happy you've taken out all the bookmarks you need to! Just press option+command+b to hide all bookmarks again! hth Colin On 21 Jun 2011, at 14:01, Julie Vaughan wrote: > please can anyone help > > i want to go through my bookmarks and delete the ones i don't use oe need anymore please could you tell me how to do this and simple please > > many thanks in advance > > Jules :) > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Tue Jun 21 15:38:08 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:38:08 +0100 Subject: deleting book marks In-Reply-To: <75BD2B5A-EF0F-46DC-B7D7-D83498BE3844@virginmedia.com> References: <07A20ACA-8967-407F-9679-A90AFB49EC59@virginmedia.com> <75BD2B5A-EF0F-46DC-B7D7-D83498BE3844@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <6EAD8B3D-037C-4D70-B624-B0219C93AB32@googlemail.com> Hey Colin. cheers for the info! I was trying to find out how to do it too, but couldn't work it out. Regards. Lewis. On 21 Jun 2011, at 15:29, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Julie! > OK 1. open all bookmarks with option+command+b and you should be put on a search field! > 2. use shift+tab to the 1st table [ and if your Mac is set to interact when tabbing] you can up and down through the options and select the one you need! [like menu bar] > 3. Then using the tab on it's own you can tab to the next table ]you'll pass through that search field on the way] > 4. You'll be in the table of bookmarks in that section just scroll through them and when you get to one you wish to remove! > 5. open vo+shift+m and in that menu is a delete and just vo space on it and that bookmark will be gone! > 6. When your done in there just shift+tab back to the 1st table and select one of the other options that might have more bookmarks you need to delete! > And do the same as before! > I don't know myself [have not tried] you might just be able to use delete on a bookmark [save's opening the vo+shift+m ] if that works! :] > 7. And finally when your happy you've taken out all the bookmarks you need to! > Just press option+command+b to hide all bookmarks again! > hth Colin > > On 21 Jun 2011, at 14:01, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> please can anyone help >> >> i want to go through my bookmarks and delete the ones i don't use oe need anymore please could you tell me how to do this and simple please >> >> many thanks in advance >> >> Jules :) >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jun 21 15:39:38 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:39:38 +0100 Subject: deleting book marks In-Reply-To: <75BD2B5A-EF0F-46DC-B7D7-D83498BE3844@virginmedia.com> References: <07A20ACA-8967-407F-9679-A90AFB49EC59@virginmedia.com> <75BD2B5A-EF0F-46DC-B7D7-D83498BE3844@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <183F512D-6449-4BA9-B149-13CE7D16617A@googlemail.com> hello just pressing backspace on the book mark will delete it i just tried it my self. Ian McNamara From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 21 17:06:24 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 02:06:24 +1000 Subject: Accessing my Mobile Me Idisk from Iphone or Ipad In-Reply-To: <428D5736-8AB9-461F-80D0-ADA7D1EFE4F8@me.com> References: <4E00829D.2000508@internode.on.net> <428D5736-8AB9-461F-80D0-ADA7D1EFE4F8@me.com> Message-ID: <561EC514-3615-42EF-B14F-26E95CF7093E@internode.on.net> Thanks a bundle, I'm going to find this most useful. On 21/06/2011, at 9:57 PM, Ian Robinson wrote: > Dane, > > You need to use the IDisk app; it is free from the App Store. > > HTH. > > Ian > > On 21 Jun 2011, at 12:38, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Subject line says it all, anyone know of a way to access the files on my Mobile Me Idisk from Iphone or Ipad? >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 21 17:08:10 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 02:08:10 +1000 Subject: deleting book marks In-Reply-To: <07A20ACA-8967-407F-9679-A90AFB49EC59@virginmedia.com> References: <07A20ACA-8967-407F-9679-A90AFB49EC59@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <1214FF74-4219-4629-9A0D-73FF88E41074@internode.on.net> Hi! Don't know whether this has been mentioned. I've been using a piece of software called Bookdog, makes it easy to create, organise, manage, rename, sync and delete bookmarks for Safari and across browsers if required. On 21/06/2011, at 11:01 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: > please can anyone help > > i want to go through my bookmarks and delete the ones i don't use oe need anymore please could you tell me how to do this and simple please > > many thanks in advance > > Jules :) > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Jun 21 18:13:04 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 03:13:04 +1000 Subject: Details on the latest update to Audio Hijack Pro Message-ID: <4E00D120.9000802@internode.on.net> Audio Hijack Pro ahs been updated, to read about the changes go to From weavermicha at googlemail.com Tue Jun 21 19:10:49 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (Michael Weaver) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:10:49 +0100 Subject: CTRL right click In-Reply-To: <174FB025-F831-4B04-A7E8-273CF3C15F55@anarchie.org.uk> References: <174FB025-F831-4B04-A7E8-273CF3C15F55@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: I have just found out how to bring up the context menu without using the trackpad on my Macbook as I have the trackpad turned off in the Voiceover options. I found the answer looking through Voiceover help by going to something like keyboard commands. I found it is CTRL, Options, Shift M. I think I did come across this once I think in error while trying to find the keystrokes for removing applications from the Doc. On 21 June 2011 08:49, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Micheal, > > You can press Control and click the mouse or trackpad to get a contextual > menu and select Download, or you can press Option and click the mouse or > trackpad to start the download immediately. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Michael Weaver wrote: > > > Does anyone know what the accessible equivalent of CTRL right click is? > > I am trying to download some audio brochures from a shopping site only > when > > I press enter I hear the audio and don't download it. > > I need to save the audio files as target files but don't know the > shortcut > > keys. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From venables134 at btinternet.com Tue Jun 21 19:23:56 2011 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:23:56 +0100 Subject: CTRL right click In-Reply-To: References: <174FB025-F831-4B04-A7E8-273CF3C15F55@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Michael, will this command work with spelling errors. It would be great if you could try it out and let me and others know on this list if it can work that way. Basicly what I mean if you go into a word processor and type a few sentences and delibaratly mis spell a word and go back to it and issue the command, would you get the context menu I don't know what that is called on the Mac but normally when I am in microsoft office word, using Jaws or NVDA when I find a word that is incorrect I hit the apps key find the choice I want hit enter and that changes it to the one I'm looking for. If this behaves the same way on the Mac then I'll would love it! Yes I Know you could do the dialog box way but I prefer the other method. Let me know. Thanks Daniel -------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Weaver" Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:10 PM To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Re: CTRL right click > I have just found out how to bring up the context menu without using the > trackpad on my Macbook as I have the trackpad turned off in the Voiceover > options. > I found the answer looking through Voiceover help by going to something > like > keyboard commands. > I found it is CTRL, Options, Shift M. > I think I did come across this once I think in error while trying to find > the keystrokes for removing applications from the Doc. > > On 21 June 2011 08:49, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Micheal, >> >> You can press Control and click the mouse or trackpad to get a contextual >> menu and select Download, or you can press Option and click the mouse or >> trackpad to start the download immediately. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Michael Weaver wrote: >> >> > Does anyone know what the accessible equivalent of CTRL right click is? >> > I am trying to download some audio brochures from a shopping site only >> when >> > I press enter I hear the audio and don't download it. >> > I need to save the audio files as target files but don't know the >> shortcut >> > keys. >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> > >> > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >> > the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> > >> > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> > virus >> and worm-free! >> > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 20:45:43 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:45:43 -0700 Subject: Details on the latest update to Audio Hijack Pro In-Reply-To: <4E00D120.9000802@internode.on.net> References: <4E00D120.9000802@internode.on.net> Message-ID: I hope they fixed the thoug there you can't hijack the system and mic at the same time. I told them about it but they had no intention of fixing that so they kind of lost a customer. Shame as it was a nice lettle program. On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Audio Hijack Pro ahs been updated, to read about the changes go to > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From weavermicha at googlemail.com Tue Jun 21 21:59:04 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (Michael Weaver) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:59:04 +0100 Subject: an itunes problem Message-ID: I am having a problem with itunes. When I tried to play some downloaded files, Itunes came up with a message stating that a Library needed to be used and I was given the option of creating a new Library or using the existing one. I am wondering if I made the wrong choice because I created a second Library and lost access to applications etc that I had downloaded so when I did a search I came up with no applications found. I realised I had two libraries I think and I tried to delete the inappropriate folder. Now I am being told the same error message about Itunes needs to be able to open a library and asked the same 2 options and it seems to want to default to my music folder and I get the error message that the library can't be found. How do I resolve this issue? From lavendar at bell.net Tue Jun 21 22:14:59 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:14:59 -0400 Subject: selecting things..yet again In-Reply-To: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0B0E456@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02C8E0B0E456@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Sumil, Thanks, I think I was leaving the vo keys locked, plus forgetting to do the cut command or something. Not sure, but I've managed to get it working at least once, so making progress. I probably just need to slow down and pay attention to things and not do stuff when I'm tired! *smile* thanks again! This was really making me crazy! Cait Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Sunil Peck wrote: > Hi, > > Unless you lock the voiceover keys, you need to hold down the voiceover keys as you arrow down the list of files. > > Also, have you either copied or cut the files to the clipboard once you've selected them before you try navigating to where you want to put them? > > Sunil > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness > Sent: 21 June 2011 14:12 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: selecting things..yet again > > Hi, > > Ok, I hate to seem so incredibley dull witted, but here goes again. I've followed both Esther's and Sara's directions about selecting noncontiguous items in a file list and have had a little luck, but am still having problems with it. I know I am doing something wrong, or probably something is amiss with my system's setting or something, but I can't figure out what it is. > > I have a bunchof music files I am trying to move from my download folder in my home folder to a folder I'm calling "unsorted music". I go to the download folder, open it with command o, interact with the file table. I turn cursor tracking off after I get to the first file I want to move. This is where I start having problems. If I don't lock my vo keys, I get a volume control, because it says a percentage if I use the down arrow to go down the file list for the next file. If I lock the vo keys, I can go down the list so I can select the files I want with the command and spacekeys. After I've slected all the files I want, when I try and navigate to the folder I want to move the files to, I've turned cursor tracking back on with vo shift f 3, all I get is a weird mushy biong sound I've never heard before. I had to restart the mac, actually, and vo said ignore next key press. Also, when I tried this without the vo keys locked, when I checked with vo f 6 to see which file > > s where selected, there was always only one thing selected. > > I am totally mystified, can anybody figure out what in the green world I am doing to muck this up? > > Any help greatly appreciated! > > Thanks, > Cait > > Caitlyn Furness > lavendar at bell.net > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by > guarantee (number 520866). > Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. > Our VAT number is 805156939. > > > Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk > > This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential > and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been > addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this > message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are > required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the > sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, > or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use > of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the > intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with > it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the > views of Scope. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 22:59:03 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:59:03 -0700 Subject: an itunes problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are you holding down the options key when starting itunes. you will come up with that mesage every time when you do that. Take care. On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Michael Weaver wrote: > I am having a problem with itunes. > When I tried to play some downloaded files, Itunes came up with a message > stating that a Library needed to be used and I was given the option of > creating a new Library or using the existing one. > I am wondering if I made the wrong choice because I created a second Library > and lost access to applications etc that I had downloaded so when I did a > search I came up with no applications found. > I realised I had two libraries I think and I tried to delete the > inappropriate folder. > Now I am being told the same error message about Itunes needs to be able to > open a library and asked the same 2 options and it seems to want to default > to my music folder and I get the error message that the library can't be > found. > How do I resolve this issue? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lavendar at bell.net Tue Jun 21 23:25:34 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:25:34 -0400 Subject: ergonomic keyboards-any suggestions? Message-ID: Hi, Does anybody have any suggestions for an ergonomic keyboard to use with the mac? I have one here. I can't remember the model, but I think it's actually made by microsoft, although they do claim on the box it'll work with macs as well. I've had it attached to my mac a few times, but of course the mac doesn't recognize any of the keys except the alphabet ones. I really, really don't want to remap the entire keyboard! I don't even know how to do that! Also, if worse came to worse and I had todo that, would the mac be ok if I went back to the apple keyboard again? My carpal tunnel is getting worse, so typing is somewhat problematic on this very flat thing! I am using the bigger usb apple keyboard with my i mac. I do have the wireless one that they also sent, but honestly, it doesn't lok very different except for the lack of a number pad. I wanted the num pad since I use a vm. Thanks for any suggestions. Cait Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net From weavermicha at googlemail.com Tue Jun 21 23:29:13 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (Michael Weaver) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:29:13 +0100 Subject: an itunes problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am not pressing the options key. I have had to choose the option for creating a library just to get past the error and delete the 1 at the end when it suggests itunes 1 or something like that. My main problem is that I am not seeing any of my apps etc when I connect my i-phone to the mac as it comes up with empty list so I am wondering if I have screwed up in a big way and may have to either just reinstall I-tunes in the hope this sorts itself or even have to do a complete reinstall of the operating system and hope my apps etc are synced with my Macbook so I can view my apps etc and remove any I don't use. On 21 June 2011 22:59, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Are you holding down the options key when starting itunes. you will come up > with that mesage every time when you do that. > > Take care. > > On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Michael Weaver wrote: > > > I am having a problem with itunes. > > When I tried to play some downloaded files, Itunes came up with a message > > stating that a Library needed to be used and I was given the option of > > creating a new Library or using the existing one. > > I am wondering if I made the wrong choice because I created a second > Library > > and lost access to applications etc that I had downloaded so when I did a > > search I came up with no applications found. > > I realised I had two libraries I think and I tried to delete the > > inappropriate folder. > > Now I am being told the same error message about Itunes needs to be able > to > > open a library and asked the same 2 options and it seems to want to > default > > to my music folder and I get the error message that the library can't be > > found. > > How do I resolve this issue? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact > me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Tue Jun 21 23:38:55 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:38:55 +0100 Subject: an itunes problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Michael! Just in case have you got a keyboard shortcut set up using either option key's! Maybe right option and I if you have! If so I would delete that command and launch Itunes from the doc instead! As that option conflict can happen using the shortcut! If you have no shortcut set up then someone else hopefully will be able to help! Colin On 21 Jun 2011, at 23:29, Michael Weaver wrote: > I am not pressing the options key. > I have had to choose the option for creating a library just to get past the > error and delete the 1 at the end when it suggests itunes 1 or something > like that. > My main problem is that I am not seeing any of my apps etc when I connect my > i-phone to the mac as it comes up with empty list so I am wondering if I > have screwed up in a big way and may have to either just reinstall I-tunes > in the hope this sorts itself or even have to do a complete reinstall of the > operating system and hope my apps etc are synced with my Macbook so I can > view my apps etc and remove any I don't use. > > On 21 June 2011 22:59, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Are you holding down the options key when starting itunes. you will come up >> with that message every time when you do that. >> >> Take care. >> >> On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Michael Weaver wrote: >> >>> I am having a problem with itunes. >>> When I tried to play some downloaded files, Itunes came up with a message >>> stating that a Library needed to be used and I was given the option of >>> creating a new Library or using the existing one. >>> I am wondering if I made the wrong choice because I created a second >> Library >>> and lost access to applications etc that I had downloaded so when I did a >>> search I came up with no applications found. >>> I realised I had two libraries I think and I tried to delete the >>> inappropriate folder. >>> Now I am being told the same error message about Itunes needs to be able >> to >>> open a library and asked the same 2 options and it seems to want to >> default >>> to my music folder and I get the error message that the library can't be >>> found. >>> How do I resolve this issue? >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to >> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact >> me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Jun 21 23:59:28 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:59:28 +0100 Subject: deleting book marks In-Reply-To: <75BD2B5A-EF0F-46DC-B7D7-D83498BE3844@virginmedia.com> References: <07A20ACA-8967-407F-9679-A90AFB49EC59@virginmedia.com> <75BD2B5A-EF0F-46DC-B7D7-D83498BE3844@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <7E38C3AE-57B7-4D93-B6EE-CBDBC84E0A8A@virginmedia.com> Thanks Colin I'll give it a go tomorrow thank you again Jules :) Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2011, at 15:29, "Red.Falcon" wrote: > Hi Julie! > OK 1. open all bookmarks with option+command+b and you should be put on a search field! > 2. use shift+tab to the 1st table [ and if your Mac is set to interact when tabbing] you can up and down through the options and select the one you need! [like menu bar] > 3. Then using the tab on it's own you can tab to the next table ]you'll pass through that search field on the way] > 4. You'll be in the table of bookmarks in that section just scroll through them and when you get to one you wish to remove! > 5. open vo+shift+m and in that menu is a delete and just vo space on it and that bookmark will be gone! > 6. When your done in there just shift+tab back to the 1st table and select one of the other options that might have more bookmarks you need to delete! > And do the same as before! > I don't know myself [have not tried] you might just be able to use delete on a bookmark [save's opening the vo+shift+m ] if that works! :] > 7. And finally when your happy you've taken out all the bookmarks you need to! > Just press option+command+b to hide all bookmarks again! > hth Colin > > On 21 Jun 2011, at 14:01, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> please can anyone help >> >> i want to go through my bookmarks and delete the ones i don't use oe need anymore please could you tell me how to do this and simple please >> >> many thanks in advance >> >> Jules :) >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chaas0217 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 01:18:20 2011 From: chaas0217 at gmail.com (carolyn Haas) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:18:20 -0600 Subject: an itunes problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7CBEE961-2C39-4D9B-A068-A7C9F55D9330@gmail.com> Hi Michael: I just updated iTunes the other day. When I booted it up today, I got that option as well. I've heard the best way to deal with that dialog is to quit iTunes and open it again. When I did that, the dialog didn't come up. What I don't know, is what to do about your having created a second library. I'm guessing that if you hold the options key down while starting iTunes, you'll be able to choose your original library. HTH Carolyn On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Are you holding down the options key when starting itunes. you will come up with that mesage every time when you do that. > > Take care. > > On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Michael Weaver wrote: > >> I am having a problem with itunes. >> When I tried to play some downloaded files, Itunes came up with a message >> stating that a Library needed to be used and I was given the option of >> creating a new Library or using the existing one. >> I am wondering if I made the wrong choice because I created a second Library >> and lost access to applications etc that I had downloaded so when I did a >> search I came up with no applications found. >> I realised I had two libraries I think and I tried to delete the >> inappropriate folder. >> Now I am being told the same error message about Itunes needs to be able to >> open a library and asked the same 2 options and it seems to want to default >> to my music folder and I get the error message that the library can't be >> found. >> How do I resolve this issue? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 03:56:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:56:56 -0700 Subject: Hacked iTunes Store Accounts: Apple's Problem That Won't Go Away In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a mess. http://www.securitynewsdaily.com/hacked-itunes-store-accounts-apples-problem -wont-go-away-0889/ From support at mac-access.net Wed Jun 22 04:32:01 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 04:32:01 +0100 Subject: Take Control Clients; [Free upgrade to "Macworld iPad 2 Superguide"] References: <201106212200.p5LM0h7F020510@sparky.tidbits.com> Message-ID: <1515BDB5-2621-4B89-B24C-D97DAB1C4149@mac-access.net> Hello and attention all Take Control clients who bought the iPad user's guide from us. Our server is having issues at the moment but we hope to rectify those very soon. But we are away from home at present so would need to make arrangements to get your book to you by other methods. However, if you contact us we will organise this for those who are entitled to the update. Macworld recently released their "Macworld iPad 2 Superguide," and since you purchased the previous edition from us recently, we wanted to give you a free copy of the new edition, which hasn't changed all that much. It features some additional help with gestures and usage techniques, includes a much-expanded discussion of syncing files with apps, adds information about printing via Printopia and Google Cloud Print, adds a section about sharing media to and from the iPad, and updates the accessories section. If you are one of those who bought this, let us know. Also if you're interested in buying this book from us, let us know. Use the support address to claim your 80% discount as a Mac Access Dot Net member. Thank you. Lynne From support at mac-access.net Wed Jun 22 04:44:23 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 04:44:23 +0100 Subject: Take Control Clients; [Free update to "Take Control of iPad Networking & Security" 1.3] References: <201106212212.p5LMCWHF027024@sparky.tidbits.com> Message-ID: <42697AB1-14BE-484B-BFBA-F66C88512CB0@mac-access.net> Hello everybody who bought this book from us recently; you are entitled to a free update. Please contact us and let us know. We will require proof that you bought the book; which is why we urge you to retain copies of the books you bought. But we can discuss that on an individual basis. Please contact us via the support address if you either bought this book or are interested in doing so. Despite the fact that we are away from home currently we can expedite the trisection although it will be done slightly differently until we resolve the issue with our server. Tidbits just released version 1.3 of "Take Control of iPad Networking & Security." Because you already own an earlier version of this ebook, we'd like to give you this update for free. Changes in this new version bring iOS 4.3 and the iPad 2 into the fold, and discuss options relating to the Personal Hotspot feature in iOS. Just as iOS and methods of using the iPad have become more refined over the past year, this new version is streamlined and refined - we did some pruning between this version and the last one. To see a full list of changes, read the "What's New in Version 1.3" list, located in the "Read Me First." Also, the EPUB-formatted file for this new version was created using our in-house procedure, instead of outsourcing it, as was done with the previous version. The new look is much closer to the usual Take Control styling. Again, if you qualify, please let us know. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 05:41:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:41:47 -0700 Subject: Apple ups Time Capsule capacity to 3TB Message-ID: <7F4E223B-C30D-4210-9CB7-30E440742945@gmail.com> Apple ups Time Capsule capacity to 3TB Apple on Tuesday quietly upgraded the Time Capsule, its wireless backup drive and base station, introducing a new 3TB drive alongside the 2TB model. http://onj.me/qt From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 05:41:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:41:48 -0700 Subject: Monitor your system from the Dock Message-ID: Monitor your system from the Dock Activity Monitor is a great tool to call up when you need to see what apps are doing in your system. But you can tweak the utility so it always stays visible in the Dock. http://onj.me/qr From weavermicha at googlemail.com Wed Jun 22 08:08:43 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (Michael Weaver) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:08:43 +0100 Subject: an itunes problem In-Reply-To: <7CBEE961-2C39-4D9B-A068-A7C9F55D9330@gmail.com> References: <7CBEE961-2C39-4D9B-A068-A7C9F55D9330@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think I have now fixed my I-tunes problem. It kept prompting me for an I-tunes library file and when I tried to locate it by going to music I kept being told I-tunes couldn't locate the file. after trying to tab and use Voiceover keys to navigate the dialogue box for opening the library file I decided to go to the edit field to do a search for library and I then tabbed to the list and located 2 I-tunes library files I thought might be the ones I might need to access which were just called something like I-tunes Library, I hit on the one dated March and it has put it back as it was. The only thing now is that while locating apps to remove I inadvertently deleted all my list of apps I had downloaded to the i-phone but as long as I still have some record of any purchased apps, this hopefully shouldn't be too much of a problem and things like Skype which I had are free ones anyway. On 22/06/2011, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Michael: > I just updated iTunes the other day. When I booted it up today, I got that > option as well. I've heard the best way to deal with that dialog is to quit > iTunes and open it again. When I did that, the dialog didn't come up. What > I don't know, is what to do about your having created a second library. > I'm guessing that if you hold the options key down while starting iTunes, > you'll be able to choose your original library. > > HTH > > Carolyn > > On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Are you holding down the options key when starting itunes. you will come >> up with that mesage every time when you do that. >> >> Take care. >> >> On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Michael Weaver wrote: >> >>> I am having a problem with itunes. >>> When I tried to play some downloaded files, Itunes came up with a message >>> stating that a Library needed to be used and I was given the option of >>> creating a new Library or using the existing one. >>> I am wondering if I made the wrong choice because I created a second >>> Library >>> and lost access to applications etc that I had downloaded so when I did a >>> search I came up with no applications found. >>> I realised I had two libraries I think and I tried to delete the >>> inappropriate folder. >>> Now I am being told the same error message about Itunes needs to be able >>> to >>> open a library and asked the same 2 options and it seems to want to >>> default >>> to my music folder and I get the error message that the library can't be >>> found. >>> How do I resolve this issue? >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >>> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to >> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact >> me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From gordon-and-lynne at mac-access.co.uk Wed Jun 22 08:58:19 2011 From: gordon-and-lynne at mac-access.co.uk (Gordon & Lynne) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:58:19 +0100 Subject: Using the iTunes Store mobile Message-ID: Hello everybody Has anybody tried using the iTunes store mobile? Are there any restrictions on what you can and cannot do when on a mobile connection? Lynne _______________________________________ Gordon & Lynne Smith; MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 Fax: +44--1642-365-123 We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! From weavermicha at googlemail.com Wed Jun 22 16:37:24 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (Michael Weaver) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:37:24 +0100 Subject: backing up operating system disc Message-ID: I did a backup image for my Mac OSX disc using the method mentioned on the Mac Access site. However it seems to be too large a file even for DVDs which I have thrown at it. How can I resolve this issue? From rattail4 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 16:42:00 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (mike) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:42:00 -0400 Subject: backing up operating system disc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8DCE41E68BFD44FAB294BC0249FDD5D6@mquadPC> what type of DVD are you trying to use? I think you may have to use a dual layer disc for that image as when I've seen it it's over 4 gb which is the max for a standard dvd. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Weaver" Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:37 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: backing up operating system disc > I did a backup image for my Mac OSX disc using the method mentioned on the > Mac Access site. > However it seems to be too large a file even for DVDs which I have thrown > at > it. > How can I resolve this issue? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jun 22 16:46:07 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:46:07 +0100 Subject: backing up operating system disc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <346997DE-F08C-4ACC-AB88-DC53F280031A@mac-access.net> Hello Michael I need to stress that the information provided in that article was provided by an external source. Mac Access assumes no responsibility nor liability for any damage, loss or other unexpected consequence of the methodology described. There are problems with the method described actually for the operating system DVD because the author hasn't apparently taken into account the fact that the OS disk is a multisession disk. meaning that, if you put it into your drive under Windows you will see different content. Lynne On 22 Jun 2011, at 16:37, Michael Weaver wrote: I did a backup image for my Mac OSX disc using the method mentioned on the Mac Access site. However it seems to be too large a file even for DVDs which I have thrown at it. How can I resolve this issue? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Jun 22 17:49:30 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:49:30 +1000 Subject: Text Expander: how to hide it? Message-ID: Hi! Can someone remind me how to hide Text Expander and just have it run automatically in the background? From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Jun 22 17:54:40 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:54:40 +1000 Subject: Amadeus Pro 2.01 upgrade Message-ID: <89C2ACD4-F99F-4FF8-855A-A114D61E9919@internode.on.net> Hi! Just bought the upgrade to Amadeus Pro, we're now into version 2.01 and here are some very basic impressions of the software given the few minutes I've been playing with the batch processing options. In a word fast! unbelievably fast for want of a better description and I would suspect this is mainly due to the fact that Amadeus Pro now uses "Multi Threading" processor technology in the Batch Processor when processing files, I've used software under Windows with multi threading technology and it makes one hell of a difference so can't see why the same wouldn't apply under a Mac . Amadeus Pro now runs a 64-bit version for Mac machines running OS10.6 and above so that will make a difference too, haven't tried any audio editing yet but I'm about to as I have a stack of it here to get through. Also note that Power PC users won't be able to take advantage of the new Amadeus Pro 2.0 and I'm sorry! but all good things have to come to an end to make way for the new even better things . From Lee.Corman at ky.gov Wed Jun 22 18:28:33 2011 From: Lee.Corman at ky.gov (Corman, Lee (OFB-LV)) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:28:33 -0400 Subject: MS Office accessibility Message-ID: I work for an agency for the blind and we are thinking about broadening our instruction by including apple products. I heard that MS Office does not work well with voiceover on the Mac. Is there another program out there that a college student can use? I am trying to get all the info I can since many college students now are required to take computer classes. From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Wed Jun 22 18:49:52 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:49:52 +0100 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Corman! On the Mac side is Pages Numbers And I think the last one is Key note! Although someone else will tell you if I got that wrong! And as far as I know Text edit comes on all Macs! Not sure about Idevice's! hth Colin On 22 Jun 2011, at 18:28, Corman, Lee (OFB-LV) wrote: > I work for an agency for the blind and we are thinking about broadening > our instruction by including apple products. I heard that MS Office does > not work well with voiceover on the Mac. Is there another program out > there that a college student can use? I am trying to get all the info I > can since many college students now are required to take computer > classes. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From Lee.Corman at ky.gov Wed Jun 22 19:14:52 2011 From: Lee.Corman at ky.gov (Corman, Lee (OFB-LV)) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:14:52 -0400 Subject: Mac accessibility Message-ID: Thanks for the input. I am new to this list and anxious to learn what I can. From weavermicha at googlemail.com Wed Jun 22 20:06:36 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (Michael Weaver) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:06:36 +0100 Subject: Backing up a macbook Message-ID: What would anyone suggest as regards applications for backing up a Macbook? I have heard of this Time Machine but don't know about how it is used and the type of media it can write backups to. From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 20:09:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:09:39 -0700 Subject: Backing up a macbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26929C44-73A0-4687-B4DC-84568D3D3865@gmail.com> time machine uses external media such as hard drives. You can also use carbon copy cloner as well. Take care. On Jun 22, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Michael Weaver wrote: > What would anyone suggest as regards applications for backing up a Macbook? > I have heard of this Time Machine but don't know about how it is used and > the type of media it can write backups to. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From adrian at dogfish.plus.com Wed Jun 22 20:29:50 2011 From: adrian at dogfish.plus.com (Adrian Higginbotham) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:29:50 +0100 Subject: multiple IOS devices and multiple libraries Message-ID: <001801cc3112$c1bc0980$45341c80$@plus.com> Hi all: Is it possible to associate multiple IOS devices with the same iTunes library? That is, I'm shortly getting an iphone 4 and already have an ipod touch. Can I sync both with the same library so that I've got access to the same apps on both devices? Any licence issues in running an app I've purchased once on 2 devices? Or is the licence for the user not the device. And, can I access my itunes library on more than 1 computer for syncing to my IOS device? E.g. could I set both my home and office machines to access the same itunes library and account and use both to sync content to my iphone? Or do I have to choose one machine to be the hoste and jut stick with that. Thanks Adrian Higginbotham E: Adrian at dogfish.plus.com Twitter: @AHiggi From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jun 22 20:39:04 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:39:04 +0100 Subject: Backing up a macbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael Funny you should ask; Gordon is currently writing an article on this subject for our site. it will cover every aspect of backup utilities, including those accessible via the terminal. It will be up on our site and our blog very soon. Lynne On 22 Jun 2011, at 20:06, Michael Weaver wrote: What would anyone suggest as regards applications for backing up a Macbook? I have heard of this Time Machine but don't know about how it is used and the type of media it can write backups to. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: =============================== Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. ------------------------------ From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 22:04:51 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:04:51 +0200 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Corman. Wordprocessors is in my opinion the greatest problem, we have on the mac, a lot of other things works in my opinion better than in windows. But there are a lot of different opinions about that. I am using not only one wordprocessor, I am using pages a little, most of the time I use nisus writer pro 2, but there are not in my opinion a really great solution for wordprocessing on the mac, but again it depends on the students needs. The main problem in e.g. nisus is that tables is not accessible, but the developer are aware of the problem, and they have promised to look for a solution. In my opinion the compatibility with microsoft word documents is very important, and in my opinion there are a lot of problems to get word and other wordprocessors to work together. Best regards Annie. On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Corman! > On the Mac side is > Pages > Numbers > And I think the last one is Key note! > Although someone else will tell you if I got that wrong! > And as far as I know Text edit comes on all Macs! > Not sure about Idevice's! > hth Colin > On 22 Jun 2011, at 18:28, Corman, Lee (OFB-LV) wrote: > >> I work for an agency for the blind and we are thinking about broadening >> our instruction by including apple products. I heard that MS Office does >> not work well with voiceover on the Mac. Is there another program out >> there that a college student can use? I am trying to get all the info I >> can since many college students now are required to take computer >> classes. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Jun 22 23:01:36 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:01:36 +1000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rogue_Amoeba_-_Under_The_Microscope_=BB_Blog_Arch?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ive_=BB_Support_for_Mac_OS_X_10=2E7_=28Lion=29?= Message-ID: <65957977-FECA-450C-A985-709A2F0BC8B3@internode.on.net> If you're a user of products such as Audio Hijack Pro, Airfoil and Nicecast, you may wish to follow the below link to learn about the plans for these pieces of software under OS 10.7 Lion. From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Jun 22 23:09:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:09:40 +0100 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro; Query Message-ID: Hello everybody Gordon and I owned a license to use Nisus Writer Pro version 1.everything. My question is; is version 2 a paid upgrade? I'll quite understand if it is, naturally. Developers have to eat as well. We are interested to see if it gives us anything that Pages doesn't give us. By that, I mean whether it gives us as individuals anything that Pages doesn't, not whether it's better or worse than Pages. Better is a subjective term based on opinion which, of course, also varies from person to person. If this is a paid upgrade and it offers us better manipulation of documents than does Pages, we will more than happily invest. Word processing and document authoring is becoming a very large part of our weekly activity when we're at home and at work. So naturally we would like the best tools. Pages has served us well, and I'm sure it will continue to do so. However, it is entirely possible that Nisus Writer Pro might allow more flexibility in some regards. The one thing which used to irritate me about Nisus Writer Pro was that darn document manager. Well, yes, I'm sure some people found it useful; but not me. So I was glad to read that you can turn it it off. We're going download it and give it a try as soon as we can. We're heading home either tomorrow or Friday as we have to be back for Gordon's scheduled operation early next week. So this will be high on the list of things to do when we get home. Thanks for any info on the upgrade status. Lynne =============================== Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. ------------------------------ From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Jun 22 23:11:45 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:11:45 +1000 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro; Query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9B485997-DAEA-416E-9A78-8F59F66C64D0@internode.on.net> Yep certainly is, a complete new licence though you get a discount for upgrading. On 23/06/2011, at 8:09 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Gordon and I owned a license to use Nisus Writer Pro version 1.everything. My question is; is version 2 a paid upgrade? I'll quite understand if it is, naturally. Developers have to eat as well. We are interested to see if it gives us anything that Pages doesn't give us. By that, I mean whether it gives us as individuals anything that Pages doesn't, not whether it's better or worse than Pages. Better is a subjective term based on opinion which, of course, also varies from person to person. > > If this is a paid upgrade and it offers us better manipulation of documents than does Pages, we will more than happily invest. Word processing and document authoring is becoming a very large part of our weekly activity when we're at home and at work. So naturally we would like the best tools. > > Pages has served us well, and I'm sure it will continue to do so. However, it is entirely possible that Nisus Writer Pro might allow more flexibility in some regards. The one thing which used to irritate me about Nisus Writer Pro was that darn document manager. Well, yes, I'm sure some people found it useful; but not me. So I was glad to read that you can turn it it off. We're going download it and give it a try as soon as we can. We're heading home either tomorrow or Friday as we have to be back for Gordon's scheduled operation early next week. So this will be high on the list of things to do when we get home. > > Thanks for any info on the upgrade status. > > Lynne > > > > =============================== > > Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > lynne at mac-access.net > Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. > > ------------------------------ > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Thu Jun 23 00:01:27 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:01:27 -1000 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro; Query In-Reply-To: <9B485997-DAEA-416E-9A78-8F59F66C64D0@internode.on.net> References: <9B485997-DAEA-416E-9A78-8F59F66C64D0@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4CF07204-999A-4527-B47D-8DDD4D5C44EB@mac.com> Hi Lynne, You might want to read the recent TidBITS review of Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 by Joe Kissell: http://www.tidbits.com/article/12220 I'll excerpt a bit of the opening paragraph: Nisus Software recently released Nisus Writer Pro 2.0, a major revision to the company?s legendary high-end word processor. It had been more than a year since its last update, but the new version includes a vast number of improvements that more than justify the delay. In fact, it goes quite a bit beyond that. After following Nisus Writer?s ups and downs carefully these many years, I am equally shocked and delighted to say this is the first version of the application since Mac OS X was released ? over ten years ago ? that I can seriously contemplate using for my own professional writing. The article gives a fairly detailed discussion of new features (such as change tracking), but also gives an assessment of the degree of compatibility with Word when editing the same document passed between the two applications (mixed: some things well handled, and few other formatting details inspire the author to write a macro to handle the small awkward bits). I'll excerpt another bit from the middle of the article that gives the flavor of the review: Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 checks off almost every requirement for professional, modern word processing Adam imagined in a hypothetical WriteRight program back in 2004, and then some. The things Nisus Writer Pro still lacks are bothersome, but not so bothersome that I can?t use it to get my work done more efficiently than in Word or Pages. Even as I type this review in Nisus Writer Pro, writing macros and tweaking keyboard shortcuts as I go, I?m toying with the possibility of using the application to write an upcoming book. I mean that as high praise ? and it also feels like coming home after 15 tedious years of wandering in the wilderness. I?ve been given the opportunity to enjoy the craft of writing again, and I find that deeply meaningful. I can?t promise you the same experience, of course, but I encourage you to give it a try and find out for yourself. HTH. Cheers, Esther From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 23 00:11:35 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 00:11:35 +0100 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro; Query In-Reply-To: <4CF07204-999A-4527-B47D-8DDD4D5C44EB@mac.com> References: <9B485997-DAEA-416E-9A78-8F59F66C64D0@internode.on.net> <4CF07204-999A-4527-B47D-8DDD4D5C44EB@mac.com> Message-ID: <9A3FBDF2-9D5A-4A2B-8B48-95E41C01FEA6@mac-access.net> Hello Esther On 23 Jun 2011, at 00:01, Esther wrote: ? You might want to read the recent TidBITS review of Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 by Joe Kissell: http://www.tidbits.com/article/12220 Thank you, this is very useful. I am now trying the programme and have bought us an upgrade. I was a little disappointed to see that they still do not support PayPal it seems as a payment method; but we were able to work around that. I won't quote the rest of your post, as it is detailed. Suffice it to say that it helped me to make up my mind to continue supporting the product by taking the opportunity to buy us an update. As per usual, Esther, a highly efficient and informative post; thank you very much. Nisus does indeed look to be a good buy. =============================== Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. ------------------------------ From n0oxy at charter.net Thu Jun 23 00:23:55 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:23:55 -0500 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> There are a few other programs you can consider. Apple's iwork suite is accessible, and open office is also useable. Both of these products will open MS office documents. On Jun 22, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Corman, Lee (OFB-LV) wrote: > I work for an agency for the blind and we are thinking about broadening > our instruction by including apple products. I heard that MS Office does > not work well with voiceover on the Mac. Is there another program out > there that a college student can use? I am trying to get all the info I > can since many college students now are required to take computer > classes. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 23 00:36:28 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:36:28 +1000 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro; Query In-Reply-To: <4CF07204-999A-4527-B47D-8DDD4D5C44EB@mac.com> References: <9B485997-DAEA-416E-9A78-8F59F66C64D0@internode.on.net> <4CF07204-999A-4527-B47D-8DDD4D5C44EB@mac.com> Message-ID: <4E027C7C.9020302@internode.on.net> What a fantastic article this is, anyone considering the purchase of Nisus Writer Pro or indeed anyone who owns a copy of Nisus should certainly read this. On 23/06/2011 9:01 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > You might want to read the recent TidBITS review of Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 by Joe Kissell: > http://www.tidbits.com/article/12220 > > I'll excerpt a bit of the opening paragraph: > > Nisus Software recently released Nisus Writer Pro 2.0, a major revision to the company?s legendary high-end word processor. It had been more than a year since its last update, but the new version includes a vast number of improvements that more than justify the delay. In fact, it goes quite a bit beyond that. After following Nisus Writer?s ups and downs carefully these many years, I am equally shocked and delighted to say this is the first version of the application since Mac OS X was released ? over ten years ago ? that I can seriously contemplate using for my own professional writing. > > > The article gives a fairly detailed discussion of new features (such as change tracking), but also gives an assessment of the degree of compatibility with Word when editing the same document passed between the two applications (mixed: some things well handled, and few other formatting details inspire the author to write a macro to handle the small awkward bits). > > I'll excerpt another bit from the middle of the article that gives the flavor of the review: > > Nisus Writer Pro 2.0 checks off almost every requirement for professional, modern word processing Adam imagined in a hypothetical WriteRight program back in 2004, and then some. The things Nisus Writer Pro still lacks are bothersome, but not so bothersome that I can?t use it to get my work done more efficiently than in Word or Pages. Even as I type this review in Nisus Writer Pro, writing macros and tweaking keyboard shortcuts as I go, I?m toying with the possibility of using the application to write an upcoming book. I mean that as high praise ? and it also feels like coming home after 15 tedious years of wandering in the wilderness. I?ve been given the opportunity to enjoy the craft of writing again, and I find that deeply meaningful. I can?t promise you the same experience, of course, but I encourage you to give it a try and find out for yourself. > > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Thu Jun 23 00:43:05 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:43:05 -0300 Subject: a Preview question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Folks: How does one read a PDF document in Preview line by line? Thanks all over the place gang. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6230 (20110622) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 23 00:45:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 00:45:40 +0100 Subject: a Preview question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C903AE8-3F13-4279-BEA8-7BE99387D40E@mac-access.net> Hello Jim Interact with the text, I believe. Lynne On 23 Jun 2011, at 00:43, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hi Folks: How does one read a PDF document in Preview line by line? Thanks all over the place gang. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6230 (20110622) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: =============================== Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. ------------------------------ From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Thu Jun 23 00:57:27 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:57:27 -0300 Subject: Nisus Writer and Accessibility. Message-ID: <6C95AADB54B9489F9485BD89E89AD0C4@MainComputer> Hi Folks: Could you tell me if Nisus Writer works well with Voiceover? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6230 (20110622) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 23 01:01:47 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:01:47 +1000 Subject: Nisus Writer and Accessibility. In-Reply-To: <6C95AADB54B9489F9485BD89E89AD0C4@MainComputer> References: <6C95AADB54B9489F9485BD89E89AD0C4@MainComputer> Message-ID: <4E02826B.4050502@internode.on.net> I've been using Nisus for the last 5 years with Voiceover on the Mac, when I started using the software there were quite a lot of problems but in the last 5 years many of those accessibility issues have been resolved. Annie has mentioned tables, these are unfortunately still not accessible with Voiceover as they display in a graphical form but the rest of the functions seem to be a Okay. Now I also should point out that tables like Tables Of Contents are perfectly accessible, use them here all the time and the Track Changes features seem to work with Voiceover too! On 23/06/2011 9:57 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Could you tell me if Nisus Writer works well with Voiceover? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6230 (20110622) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Jun 23 01:10:09 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:10:09 +0100 Subject: Nisus Writer and Accessibility. In-Reply-To: <4E02826B.4050502@internode.on.net> References: <6C95AADB54B9489F9485BD89E89AD0C4@MainComputer> <4E02826B.4050502@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hello Dane On 23 Jun 2011, at 01:01, Dane Trethowan wrote: ? I've been using Nisus for the last 5 years with Voiceover on the Mac, when I started using the software there were quite a lot of problems but in the last 5 years many of those accessibility issues have been resolved. I'm not in any way disputing that. ? Annie has mentioned tables, these are unfortunately still not accessible with Voiceover as they display in a graphical form but the rest of the functions seem to be a Okay. That is quite unfortunate I must admit because Gordon and I were planning to try and increase the scope of the reports we compile for parents to include tables of a child's performance in different areas. But if tables are something Gordon isn't going to be able to manage and, more to the point, something that Gillian isn't going to be able to manage as my typist at work, then we are going to have to drop that idea. ? Now I also should point out that tables like Tables Of Contents are perfectly accessible, use them here all the time and the Track Changes features seem to work with Voiceover too! Tables of contents aren't quite what I had in mind. I can't think why we would require those to be honest. Yes; perhaps in a general report they might be useful if the report spans a lot of pages. But most of the reports we prepare are comparatively short and, therefore, a TOC wouldn't really be of much value. Lynne From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 23 01:18:33 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:18:33 +1000 Subject: Nisus Writer and Accessibility. In-Reply-To: References: <6C95AADB54B9489F9485BD89E89AD0C4@MainComputer> <4E02826B.4050502@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4E028659.2050200@internode.on.net> Yep points taken and I doubt you'd be wanting Tables Of Contents, Nisus Writer Pro is more a writing tool. If you're serious about tables in your reports then you'd possibly be better off working with Bento or even Tables itself. On 23/06/2011 10:10 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > On 23 Jun 2011, at 01:01, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > ? I've been using Nisus for the last 5 years with Voiceover on the Mac, when I started using the software there were quite a lot of problems but in the last 5 years many of those accessibility issues have been resolved. > > I'm not in any way disputing that. > > ? Annie has mentioned tables, these are unfortunately still not accessible with Voiceover as they display in a graphical form but the rest of the functions seem to be a Okay. > > That is quite unfortunate I must admit because Gordon and I were planning to try and increase the scope of the reports we compile for parents to include tables of a child's performance in different areas. But if tables are something Gordon isn't going to be able to manage and, more to the point, something that Gillian isn't going to be able to manage as my typist at work, then we are going to have to drop that idea. > > ? Now I also should point out that tables like Tables Of Contents are perfectly accessible, use them here all the time and the Track Changes features seem to work with Voiceover too! > > Tables of contents aren't quite what I had in mind. I can't think why we would require those to be honest. Yes; perhaps in a general report they might be useful if the report spans a lot of pages. But most of the reports we prepare are comparatively short and, therefore, a TOC wouldn't really be of much value. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 23 01:59:56 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:59:56 +0100 Subject: DropBox Status Message-ID: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> hello everybody is there a way to enable the viewing of the status of Drop Box with VoiceOver? I can see it in SL in the status bar but VoiceOver doesn't seem to pick anything up. Lynne =============================== Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. ------------------------------ From gordon-and-lynne at mac-access.co.uk Thu Jun 23 04:33:19 2011 From: gordon-and-lynne at mac-access.co.uk (Gordon & Lynne) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 04:33:19 +0100 Subject: Editing Mailbox Contents With iOS Message-ID: <6D2E547E-2419-4330-94C0-4250F1E03163@mac-access.co.uk> Hello everybody Gordon, Tracy and I are packing now as we're heading back home shortly. I won't go into the why's and wherefore's on list; but we need to stagger our annual holidays this year. Anyway, my question. Does anybody know of a quick way to edit the contents of a mailbox on an iOS device which contains a large number of messages? The only way I have found currently is to scroll through every single message individually, tagging each message for deletion after first clicking the "Edit" button. This, even for somebody with vision, is tedious; and I just can't believe that Apple has not given the user the option to bulk delete. If there's something I am Missing, I'll be happy to hear about it. But currently this is the one thing I really dislike about iOS. Lynne _______________________________________ Gordon & Lynne Smith; MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 Fax: +44--1642-365-123 We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 05:06:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:06:56 -0700 Subject: Editing Mailbox Contents With iOS In-Reply-To: <6D2E547E-2419-4330-94C0-4250F1E03163@mac-access.co.uk> References: <6D2E547E-2419-4330-94C0-4250F1E03163@mac-access.co.uk> Message-ID: <6EC65EB1-4669-4D46-9463-E9ED2D27F198@gmail.com> NOpe just hit edit and tap every message you want to move or delete. if you have thread view on you can tap a message and it will select the whole thread. This asumes you have not opened a message. Good luck. On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Gordon & Lynne wrote: > Hello everybody > > Gordon, Tracy and I are packing now as we're heading back home shortly. I won't go into the why's and wherefore's on list; but we need to stagger our annual holidays this year. > > Anyway, my question. Does anybody know of a quick way to edit the contents of a mailbox on an iOS device which contains a large number of messages? The only way I have found currently is to scroll through every single message individually, tagging each message for deletion after first clicking the "Edit" button. > > This, even for somebody with vision, is tedious; and I just can't believe that Apple has not given the user the option to bulk delete. > > If there's something I am Missing, I'll be happy to hear about it. But currently this is the one thing I really dislike about iOS. > > Lynne > > > > _______________________________________ > > Gordon & Lynne Smith; > > > MMS & SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 > Fax: +44--1642-365-123 > > We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 05:09:16 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:09:16 -0700 Subject: DropBox Status In-Reply-To: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> References: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <91BFE29E-93A5-4780-8954-C3D5C66C0134@gmail.com> Hello. 1. lock the vo keys. 2. hit m twice. 3. hit vo cmd f5 and then just f5 as you move your finger from east to west. Dropbox should be right near the menu bar. 4. when you find it, hit vo shift space to bring up the menu. you should then see your status and be able to do what you want to do. Take care. Oh and don't forget to unlock your keys when you are done. On Jun 22, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > hello everybody > > is there a way to enable the viewing of the status of Drop Box with VoiceOver? I can see it in SL in the status bar but VoiceOver doesn't seem to pick anything up. > > Lynne > > > > =============================== > > Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > lynne at mac-access.net > Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. > > ------------------------------ > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 23 05:57:52 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 05:57:52 +0100 Subject: Editing Mailbox Contents With iOS In-Reply-To: <6EC65EB1-4669-4D46-9463-E9ED2D27F198@gmail.com> References: <6D2E547E-2419-4330-94C0-4250F1E03163@mac-access.co.uk> <6EC65EB1-4669-4D46-9463-E9ED2D27F198@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Sarah Yes; I understand how the function works that way; I was wondering if there was a quicker way. Lynne On 23 Jun 2011, at 05:06, Sarah Alawami wrote: NOpe just hit edit and tap every message you want to move or delete. if you have thread view on you can tap a message and it will select the whole thread. This asumes you have not opened a message. =============================== Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. ------------------------------ From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 23 06:00:34 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 06:00:34 +0100 Subject: DropBox Status In-Reply-To: <91BFE29E-93A5-4780-8954-C3D5C66C0134@gmail.com> References: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> <91BFE29E-93A5-4780-8954-C3D5C66C0134@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9126B0A2-8D75-4824-B075-E57A7B3D2A52@mac-access.net> Hello Sarah This is another one of those annoying VoiceOver quirks. I can see the status visually, but on some of our machines we don't have a trackpad. So that makes it kind of difficult. But thanks for the tips. Lynne On 23 Jun 2011, at 05:09, Sarah Alawami wrote: Hello. 1. lock the vo keys. 2. hit m twice. 3. hit vo cmd f5 and then just f5 as you move your finger from east to west. Dropbox should be right near the menu bar. 4. when you find it, hit vo shift space to bring up the menu. you should then see your status and be able to do what you want to do. Take care. Oh and don't forget to unlock your keys when you are done. On Jun 22, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > hello everybody > > is there a way to enable the viewing of the status of Drop Box with VoiceOver? I can see it in SL in the status bar but VoiceOver doesn't seem to pick anything up. > > Lynne > > > > =============================== > > Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > lynne at mac-access.net > Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. > > ------------------------------ > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: =============================== Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. ------------------------------ From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 06:26:21 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:26:21 -0700 Subject: DropBox Status In-Reply-To: <9126B0A2-8D75-4824-B075-E57A7B3D2A52@mac-access.net> References: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> <91BFE29E-93A5-4780-8954-C3D5C66C0134@gmail.com> <9126B0A2-8D75-4824-B075-E57A7B3D2A52@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Oh. oops? didn't think of that. would moving your mouse work while you hit f5 then? just wondering. Take care. On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > This is another one of those annoying VoiceOver quirks. I can see the status visually, but on some of our machines we don't have a trackpad. So that makes it kind of difficult. But thanks for the tips. > > Lynne > > On 23 Jun 2011, at 05:09, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > Hello. > > 1. lock the vo keys. > > 2. hit m twice. > > 3. hit vo cmd f5 and then just f5 as you move your finger from east to west. Dropbox should be right near the menu bar. > > 4. when you find it, hit vo shift space to bring up the menu. you should then see your status and be able to do what you want to do. > > Take care. Oh and don't forget to unlock your keys when you are done. > On Jun 22, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> hello everybody >> >> is there a way to enable the viewing of the status of Drop Box with VoiceOver? I can see it in SL in the status bar but VoiceOver doesn't seem to pick anything up. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> >> =============================== >> >> Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith >> lynne at mac-access.net >> Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > > > > > =============================== > > Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > lynne at mac-access.net > Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. > > ------------------------------ > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 06:26:53 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:26:53 -0700 Subject: Editing Mailbox Contents With iOS In-Reply-To: References: <6D2E547E-2419-4330-94C0-4250F1E03163@mac-access.co.uk> <6EC65EB1-4669-4D46-9463-E9ED2D27F198@gmail.com> Message-ID: <430829B3-A715-43E3-A186-0CC6982F8EEA@gmail.com> NOpe. not that I"m aware of. I would also like a select all but I don't know if that will ever happen. Take care. On Jun 22, 2011, at 9:57 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > Yes; I understand how the function works that way; I was wondering if there was a quicker way. > > Lynne > > On 23 Jun 2011, at 05:06, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > NOpe just hit edit and tap every message you want to move or delete. if you have thread view on you can tap a message and it will select the whole thread. This asumes you have not opened a message. > > > > > > =============================== > > Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > lynne at mac-access.net > Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. > > ------------------------------ > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From christopherh40 at googlemail.com Thu Jun 23 06:27:08 2011 From: christopherh40 at googlemail.com (chris hallsworth) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 06:27:08 +0100 Subject: Editing Mailbox Contents With iOS In-Reply-To: <6EC65EB1-4669-4D46-9463-E9ED2D27F198@gmail.com> References: <6D2E547E-2419-4330-94C0-4250F1E03163@mac-access.co.uk> <6EC65EB1-4669-4D46-9463-E9ED2D27F198@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E02CEAC.9030305@googlemail.com> How do I switch to thread view? This will be very useful since there is no way to select all and delete in one go. Chris Hallsworth Sent from Thunderbird On 23/06/2011 05:06, Sarah Alawami wrote: > NOpe just hit edit and tap every message you want to move or delete. if you have thread view on you can tap a message and it will select the whole thread. This asumes you have not opened a message. > > Good luck. > On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Gordon& Lynne wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> Gordon, Tracy and I are packing now as we're heading back home shortly. I won't go into the why's and wherefore's on list; but we need to stagger our annual holidays this year. >> >> Anyway, my question. Does anybody know of a quick way to edit the contents of a mailbox on an iOS device which contains a large number of messages? The only way I have found currently is to scroll through every single message individually, tagging each message for deletion after first clicking the "Edit" button. >> >> This, even for somebody with vision, is tedious; and I just can't believe that Apple has not given the user the option to bulk delete. >> >> If there's something I am Missing, I'll be happy to hear about it. But currently this is the one thing I really dislike about iOS. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> Gordon& Lynne Smith; >> >> >> MMS& SMS ... +44-7907-823-971 >> Fax: +44--1642-365-123 >> >> We sent this message using our Apple iPad; the best mobile data device in the universe! >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 23 07:09:26 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:09:26 +0100 Subject: DropBox Status In-Reply-To: References: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> <91BFE29E-93A5-4780-8954-C3D5C66C0134@gmail.com> <9126B0A2-8D75-4824-B075-E57A7B3D2A52@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Sarah On 23 Jun 2011, at 06:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: ? Oh. oops? didn't think of that. would moving your mouse work while you hit f5 then? just wondering. That's kind of the problem you see, these machines are used as servers and they don't have mice attached either. Sorry; I'm not trying to be difficult but they're so rarely accessed directly that we don't usually leave anything we don' need attached to them. Most if not all of the USB connections are used for external storage. Actually I'm waiting for the new model of the Mac Mini with Apple's new "Thunderbolt" protocol to be released. Thunderbolt will replace USB and Firewire. it can transfer 3.2GB per second. But I'm getting off the point. It's a kind of difficult situation. When we get home later today I need to look into this further and we can see if there's a work-around. Lynne =============================== Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. ------------------------------ From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 23 07:11:06 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:11:06 +0100 Subject: Editing Mailbox Contents With iOS In-Reply-To: <4E02CEAC.9030305@googlemail.com> References: <6D2E547E-2419-4330-94C0-4250F1E03163@mac-access.co.uk> <6EC65EB1-4669-4D46-9463-E9ED2D27F198@gmail.com> <4E02CEAC.9030305@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Chris Go into settings>Mail and whatever it is. You can find the option there. I also suggest to turn off preview by reducing that number to 0. Lynne =============================== Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Co-owner and administrator of Mac Access Dot Net. ------------------------------ From w9fyi at mac-access.net Thu Jun 23 07:35:56 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:35:56 -0700 Subject: setting up an email alias for gmail? Message-ID: <67D73F29-D698-471E-BD2A-02D2B25A2AE4@mac-access.net> Hi al, I know this is probably slightly off topic, but I've hard that I can setup an email alias for a gmail acount. So instead of having jmann627 at gmail.com I can have justin.mann at gmail.com. Is this possible? If so, how? From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Thu Jun 23 08:00:45 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:00:45 +0100 Subject: DropBox Status In-Reply-To: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> References: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: hi dropbox for mac seems very inaccessable with voice over it's ok to copy and paste files from your computer in to your dropbox folders but i don't think you can see the progress of your files or anything like that. Ian McNamara From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Jun 23 08:25:42 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:25:42 +0200 Subject: DropBox Status In-Reply-To: References: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> <91BFE29E-93A5-4780-8954-C3D5C66C0134@gmail.com> <9126B0A2-8D75-4824-B075-E57A7B3D2A52@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <10401590-4853-477A-88C8-66136662B56A@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Lynne, Have you tried using Mousekeys? That works for me in the Status menu. Cheers, Anne On Jun 23, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > > That's kind of the problem you see, these machines are used as servers and they don't have mice attached either. From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jun 23 08:26:08 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:26:08 +0100 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> Message-ID: <4F032192-36FE-442A-82FA-9EBA42DC3567@blueyonder.co.uk> Nisus Writer Pro 2 is an excellent Word Processor, and you might want to consider Bento for Database stuff. There are a couple of free apps too. Bean is a free Word Processor and Tables is a free spreadsheet. All are accessible with Voice Over. On 23 Jun 2011, at 00:23, Mike Arrigo wrote: > There are a few other programs you can consider. Apple's iwork suite is accessible, and open office is also useable. Both of these products will open MS office documents. > On Jun 22, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Corman, Lee (OFB-LV) wrote: > >> I work for an agency for the blind and we are thinking about broadening >> our instruction by including apple products. I heard that MS Office does >> not work well with voiceover on the Mac. Is there another program out >> there that a college student can use? I am trying to get all the info I >> can since many college students now are required to take computer >> classes. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Jun 23 08:42:00 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:42:00 +0200 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: <4F032192-36FE-442A-82FA-9EBA42DC3567@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> <4F032192-36FE-442A-82FA-9EBA42DC3567@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <73ECB0AF-B73D-4D7E-93C9-B75D36F41A06@anarchie.org.uk> When using Pages, you can handle tables by copying them into Numbers and editing them there, then copying them back into the Pages document. You can't read them in Pages where they show up to VoiceOver as highlighted spaces. Cheers, Anne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jun 23 08:44:28 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:44:28 +0100 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: <73ECB0AF-B73D-4D7E-93C9-B75D36F41A06@anarchie.org.uk> References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> <4F032192-36FE-442A-82FA-9EBA42DC3567@blueyonder.co.uk> <73ECB0AF-B73D-4D7E-93C9-B75D36F41A06@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Don't know if you agree Anne, but this is one of Apple's most idiotic blunders. Tables form an integral part of modern documents, and not being able to read them in Pages is criminally stupid. On 23 Jun 2011, at 08:42, Anne Robertson wrote: > When using Pages, you can handle tables by copying them into Numbers and editing them there, then copying them back into the Pages document. You can't read them in Pages where they show up to VoiceOver as highlighted spaces. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Jun 23 10:20:05 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:20:05 +0200 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> <4F032192-36FE-442A-82FA-9EBA42DC3567@blueyonder.co.uk> <73ECB0AF-B73D-4D7E-93C9-B75D36F41A06@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <94C3E373-5394-4D81-B295-CE26A050C5F0@anarchie.org.uk> Hello D?nal, I agree that this is a huge blunder on the part of Apple and have reported it to them. It annoys me intensely, but I haven't found an alternative that works any better than Pages. I use TextEdit to locate the table that I need to copy into Numbers since finding a highlighted space in a long document is like looking for a needle in a haystack. And when are we going to get a new version of iWork? Cheers, Anne On Jun 23, 2011, at 9:44 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Don't know if you agree Anne, but this is one of Apple's most idiotic blunders. Tables form an integral part of modern documents, and not being able to read them in Pages is criminally stupid. > On 23 Jun 2011, at 08:42, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> When using Pages, you can handle tables by copying them into Numbers and editing them there, then copying them back into the Pages document. You can't read them in Pages where they show up to VoiceOver as highlighted spaces. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jun 23 10:28:58 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:28:58 +0100 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: <94C3E373-5394-4D81-B295-CE26A050C5F0@anarchie.org.uk> References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> <4F032192-36FE-442A-82FA-9EBA42DC3567@blueyonder.co.uk> <73ECB0AF-B73D-4D7E-93C9-B75D36F41A06@anarchie.org.uk> <94C3E373-5394-4D81-B295-CE26A050C5F0@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Anne, On 23 Jun 2011, at 10:20, Anne Robertson wrote: > And when are we going to get a new version of iWork? > Apple thanks you for your enquiry and will pass your email along to the appropriate people, where it will disappear into a black hole! > Cheers, D?nal From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jun 23 10:34:49 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:34:49 +0100 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: <94C3E373-5394-4D81-B295-CE26A050C5F0@anarchie.org.uk> References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> <4F032192-36FE-442A-82FA-9EBA42DC3567@blueyonder.co.uk> <73ECB0AF-B73D-4D7E-93C9-B75D36F41A06@anarchie.org.uk> <94C3E373-5394-4D81-B295-CE26A050C5F0@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E2BDAA1-5338-4453-B38A-529B1E04F236@blueyonder.co.uk> Let's hope it is not long after the Lion release. Maybe many of these VO bugs will be squashed then. It is long over due though, I mean iWork is over 2 years old now. On 23 Jun 2011, at 10:20, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello D?nal, > > I agree that this is a huge blunder on the part of Apple and have reported it to them. It annoys me intensely, but I haven't found an alternative that works any better than Pages. I use TextEdit to locate the table that I need to copy into Numbers since finding a highlighted space in a long document is like looking for a needle in a haystack. And when are we going to get a new version of iWork? > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > On Jun 23, 2011, at 9:44 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Don't know if you agree Anne, but this is one of Apple's most idiotic blunders. Tables form an integral part of modern documents, and not being able to read them in Pages is criminally stupid. >> On 23 Jun 2011, at 08:42, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> When using Pages, you can handle tables by copying them into Numbers and editing them there, then copying them back into the Pages document. You can't read them in Pages where they show up to VoiceOver as highlighted spaces. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Jun 23 12:01:21 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:01:21 +0200 Subject: multiple IOS devices and multiple libraries In-Reply-To: <001801cc3112$c1bc0980$45341c80$@plus.com> References: <001801cc3112$c1bc0980$45341c80$@plus.com> Message-ID: <04C20E13-88C4-4ECD-B7B8-091A4A747E76@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Adrian, On Jun 22, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Adrian Higginbotham wrote: > > Is it possible to associate multiple IOS devices with the same iTunes > library? Yes. > > Any licence issues in running an app I've purchased once on 2 devices? Or is > the licence for the user not the device. > The license is for the user, not the device. > > > And, can I access my itunes library on more than 1 computer for syncing to > my IOS device? E.g. could I set both my home and office machines to access > the same itunes library and account and use both to sync content to my > iphone? > I'm not sure about that one. Cheers, Anne From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Thu Jun 23 12:04:12 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:04:12 -0400 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: <4E2BDAA1-5338-4453-B38A-529B1E04F236@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> <4F032192-36FE-442A-82FA-9EBA42DC3567@blueyonder.co.uk> <73ECB0AF-B73D-4D7E-93C9-B75D36F41A06@anarchie.org.uk> <94C3E373-5394-4D81-B295-CE26A050C5F0@anarchie.org.uk> <4E2BDAA1-5338-4453-B38A-529B1E04F236@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <1393F9E3-D433-4FEA-97BF-2C8BE7C2EAC8@chicksdigmacs.net> I don't find OpenOffice to be a suitable alternative. It crashes for me when I open the preferences. I reported this to them. They say it cannot be duplicated. So whatever. I have no time for a company who cannot even acknowledge that a prominent bug exists. Rose On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Let's hope it is not long after the Lion release. Maybe many of these VO bugs will be squashed then. It is long over due though, I mean iWork is over 2 years old now. > On 23 Jun 2011, at 10:20, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello D?nal, >> >> I agree that this is a huge blunder on the part of Apple and have reported it to them. It annoys me intensely, but I haven't found an alternative that works any better than Pages. I use TextEdit to locate the table that I need to copy into Numbers since finding a highlighted space in a long document is like looking for a needle in a haystack. And when are we going to get a new version of iWork? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> On Jun 23, 2011, at 9:44 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Don't know if you agree Anne, but this is one of Apple's most idiotic blunders. Tables form an integral part of modern documents, and not being able to read them in Pages is criminally stupid. >>> On 23 Jun 2011, at 08:42, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> >>>> When using Pages, you can handle tables by copying them into Numbers and editing them there, then copying them back into the Pages document. You can't read them in Pages where they show up to VoiceOver as highlighted spaces. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lavendar at bell.net Thu Jun 23 13:48:15 2011 From: lavendar at bell.net (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:48:15 -0400 Subject: drop box Message-ID: Hi, What version of drop box is accessable with the mac and can we set up without sighted help? Thanks, Caitlyn Caitlyn Furness lavendar at bell.net From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jun 23 14:05:22 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:05:22 +0100 Subject: Apple's Directional Audio Message-ID: <8FACE057-E10C-4CA3-866D-11B51995FC30@blueyonder.co.uk> Apple's 'directional audio' concept is like multitouch for the ears By Neil Hughes Published: 08:00 AM EST Apple has worked on "directional audio" technology, specifically employed as an audio user interface, allowing users to make selections and navigate menus based on audio cues in a three-dimensional surround sound environment. The concept was revealed this week in a new patent application made public by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office named "Directional Audio Interface for Portable Media Device." Discovered by AppleInsider, the filing shows Apple's interest in creating advanced portable devices and accompanying headphones to augment the user interface of the device. The concept includes one or more "audible control nodes," which are perceived by the user through sound to be located at different points around them. Like the multitouch interface Apple popularized with the iPhone, it's a new twist on an existing way to interact with a portable device, far more advanced than the Voice Over controls featured on the iPod touch. Apple's application notes that in some contexts, such as driving or running, a user may need to interact with their device in a non-visual manner. While simple actions such as pressing an on/off switch or skipping to the next track may be relatively simple, more complex actions like searching for a particular media file are too difficult to accomplish without visual feedback. The solution proposed by Apple is an "alternative user interface" that could supplement a device like an iPhone or iPod, allowing users the ability to interact with and control without seeing. This would be accomplished in part through audible cues to the user delivered in a three-dimensional space. When an option is presented to a user, it could be selected by physically moving the portable device in the direction of the "audible control node." In essence, a user would hear a sound from a particular location via their headphones, and would point a motion-detecting device like an iPhone in that direction to select it. The application notes that with binaural output to a user through a stereo headset, a portable device can reproduce "spatially distinct" sounds. Coupled with a motion sensor in the device, this audio-based user interface would supplement or perhaps even replace a visual user interface. Menu items could be presented in a variety of forms, including synthesized text-to-speech, recorded speech, or samples of recorded music. Audio cues could also be played back sequentially or all at once. Apple's patent application, made public this week, was first filed in December of 2009. It is credited to Aram Lindahl and Richard Powell. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jun 23 14:09:57 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:09:57 +0100 Subject: Apple's Directional Audio In-Reply-To: <8FACE057-E10C-4CA3-866D-11B51995FC30@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <8FACE057-E10C-4CA3-866D-11B51995FC30@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <1EB60A5E-5294-487E-B0CF-F51D73CD8854@computing.dcu.ie> Don't get too excited people. This kind of thing works well when moving in anx-y plane, but the Z axis poses problems for directional audio. They may be using binaural processing or HRTF functions to negate this, but I'm rather sceptical. Incidentally, we use a similar technique for rendering math. D?nal On 23 Jun 2011, at 14:05, Chris Moore wrote: > Apple's 'directional audio' concept is like multitouch for the ears > By Neil Hughes > > Published: 08:00 AM EST > > Apple has worked on "directional audio" technology, specifically employed as an audio user interface, allowing users to make selections and navigate menus based on audio cues in a three-dimensional surround sound environment. > > The concept was revealed this week in a new patent application made public by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office named "Directional Audio Interface for Portable Media Device." Discovered by AppleInsider, the filing shows Apple's interest in creating advanced portable devices and accompanying headphones to augment the user interface of the device. > > The concept includes one or more "audible control nodes," which are perceived by the user through sound to be located at different points around them. Like the multitouch interface Apple popularized with the iPhone, it's a new twist on an existing way to interact with a portable device, far more advanced than the Voice Over controls featured on the iPod touch. > > Apple's application notes that in some contexts, such as driving or running, a user may need to interact with their device in a non-visual manner. While simple actions such as pressing an on/off switch or skipping to the next track may be relatively simple, more complex actions like searching for a particular media file are too difficult to accomplish without visual feedback. > > The solution proposed by Apple is an "alternative user interface" that could supplement a device like an iPhone or iPod, allowing users the ability to interact with and control without seeing. This would be accomplished in part through audible cues to the user delivered in a three-dimensional space. > > > > When an option is presented to a user, it could be selected by physically moving the portable device in the direction of the "audible control node." In essence, a user would hear a sound from a particular location via their headphones, and would point a motion-detecting device like an iPhone in that direction to select it. > > > > The application notes that with binaural output to a user through a stereo headset, a portable device can reproduce "spatially distinct" sounds. Coupled with a motion sensor in the device, this audio-based user interface would supplement or perhaps even replace a visual user interface. > > > > Menu items could be presented in a variety of forms, including synthesized text-to-speech, recorded speech, or samples of recorded music. Audio cues could also be played back sequentially or all at once. > > Apple's patent application, made public this week, was first filed in December of 2009. It is credited to Aram Lindahl and Richard Powell. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jun 23 14:14:34 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:14:34 +0100 Subject: Apple's Directional Audio In-Reply-To: <1EB60A5E-5294-487E-B0CF-F51D73CD8854@computing.dcu.ie> References: <8FACE057-E10C-4CA3-866D-11B51995FC30@blueyonder.co.uk> <1EB60A5E-5294-487E-B0CF-F51D73CD8854@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <4E008B4F-3749-47C0-B39A-0B1F0FDF05C6@blueyonder.co.uk> I guess it explains why they hired the THX audio guy from Lucas. On 23 Jun 2011, at 14:09, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Don't get too excited people. This kind of thing works well when moving in anx-y plane, but the Z axis poses problems for directional audio. They may be using binaural processing or HRTF functions to negate this, but I'm rather sceptical. Incidentally, we use a similar technique for rendering math. > > D?nal > On 23 Jun 2011, at 14:05, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Apple's 'directional audio' concept is like multitouch for the ears >> By Neil Hughes >> >> Published: 08:00 AM EST >> >> Apple has worked on "directional audio" technology, specifically employed as an audio user interface, allowing users to make selections and navigate menus based on audio cues in a three-dimensional surround sound environment. >> >> The concept was revealed this week in a new patent application made public by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office named "Directional Audio Interface for Portable Media Device." Discovered by AppleInsider, the filing shows Apple's interest in creating advanced portable devices and accompanying headphones to augment the user interface of the device. >> >> The concept includes one or more "audible control nodes," which are perceived by the user through sound to be located at different points around them. Like the multitouch interface Apple popularized with the iPhone, it's a new twist on an existing way to interact with a portable device, far more advanced than the Voice Over controls featured on the iPod touch. >> >> Apple's application notes that in some contexts, such as driving or running, a user may need to interact with their device in a non-visual manner. While simple actions such as pressing an on/off switch or skipping to the next track may be relatively simple, more complex actions like searching for a particular media file are too difficult to accomplish without visual feedback. >> >> The solution proposed by Apple is an "alternative user interface" that could supplement a device like an iPhone or iPod, allowing users the ability to interact with and control without seeing. This would be accomplished in part through audible cues to the user delivered in a three-dimensional space. >> >> >> >> When an option is presented to a user, it could be selected by physically moving the portable device in the direction of the "audible control node." In essence, a user would hear a sound from a particular location via their headphones, and would point a motion-detecting device like an iPhone in that direction to select it. >> >> >> >> The application notes that with binaural output to a user through a stereo headset, a portable device can reproduce "spatially distinct" sounds. Coupled with a motion sensor in the device, this audio-based user interface would supplement or perhaps even replace a visual user interface. >> >> >> >> Menu items could be presented in a variety of forms, including synthesized text-to-speech, recorded speech, or samples of recorded music. Audio cues could also be played back sequentially or all at once. >> >> Apple's patent application, made public this week, was first filed in December of 2009. It is credited to Aram Lindahl and Richard Powell. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Jun 23 14:16:31 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:16:31 +0100 Subject: Apple's Directional Audio In-Reply-To: <4E008B4F-3749-47C0-B39A-0B1F0FDF05C6@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <8FACE057-E10C-4CA3-866D-11B51995FC30@blueyonder.co.uk> <1EB60A5E-5294-487E-B0CF-F51D73CD8854@computing.dcu.ie> <4E008B4F-3749-47C0-B39A-0B1F0FDF05C6@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <0EACA1F0-26B7-4AF6-A783-912B9C9C989A@computing.dcu.ie> does indeed. On 23 Jun 2011, at 14:14, Chris Moore wrote: > I guess it explains why they hired the THX audio guy from Lucas. > On 23 Jun 2011, at 14:09, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Don't get too excited people. This kind of thing works well when moving in anx-y plane, but the Z axis poses problems for directional audio. They may be using binaural processing or HRTF functions to negate this, but I'm rather sceptical. Incidentally, we use a similar technique for rendering math. >> >> D?nal >> On 23 Jun 2011, at 14:05, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Apple's 'directional audio' concept is like multitouch for the ears >>> By Neil Hughes >>> >>> Published: 08:00 AM EST >>> >>> Apple has worked on "directional audio" technology, specifically employed as an audio user interface, allowing users to make selections and navigate menus based on audio cues in a three-dimensional surround sound environment. >>> >>> The concept was revealed this week in a new patent application made public by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office named "Directional Audio Interface for Portable Media Device." Discovered by AppleInsider, the filing shows Apple's interest in creating advanced portable devices and accompanying headphones to augment the user interface of the device. >>> >>> The concept includes one or more "audible control nodes," which are perceived by the user through sound to be located at different points around them. Like the multitouch interface Apple popularized with the iPhone, it's a new twist on an existing way to interact with a portable device, far more advanced than the Voice Over controls featured on the iPod touch. >>> >>> Apple's application notes that in some contexts, such as driving or running, a user may need to interact with their device in a non-visual manner. While simple actions such as pressing an on/off switch or skipping to the next track may be relatively simple, more complex actions like searching for a particular media file are too difficult to accomplish without visual feedback. >>> >>> The solution proposed by Apple is an "alternative user interface" that could supplement a device like an iPhone or iPod, allowing users the ability to interact with and control without seeing. This would be accomplished in part through audible cues to the user delivered in a three-dimensional space. >>> >>> >>> >>> When an option is presented to a user, it could be selected by physically moving the portable device in the direction of the "audible control node." In essence, a user would hear a sound from a particular location via their headphones, and would point a motion-detecting device like an iPhone in that direction to select it. >>> >>> >>> >>> The application notes that with binaural output to a user through a stereo headset, a portable device can reproduce "spatially distinct" sounds. Coupled with a motion sensor in the device, this audio-based user interface would supplement or perhaps even replace a visual user interface. >>> >>> >>> >>> Menu items could be presented in a variety of forms, including synthesized text-to-speech, recorded speech, or samples of recorded music. Audio cues could also be played back sequentially or all at once. >>> >>> Apple's patent application, made public this week, was first filed in December of 2009. It is credited to Aram Lindahl and Richard Powell. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From w9fyi at mac-access.net Thu Jun 23 14:41:40 2011 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 06:41:40 -0700 Subject: Apple's Directional Audio In-Reply-To: <0EACA1F0-26B7-4AF6-A783-912B9C9C989A@computing.dcu.ie> References: <8FACE057-E10C-4CA3-866D-11B51995FC30@blueyonder.co.uk> <1EB60A5E-5294-487E-B0CF-F51D73CD8854@computing.dcu.ie> <4E008B4F-3749-47C0-B39A-0B1F0FDF05C6@blueyonder.co.uk> <0EACA1F0-26B7-4AF6-A783-912B9C9C989A@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: I think as always whatever the interface is it will be quite good. Apple isn't always first, they just try to do it better. On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:16 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > does indeed. > On 23 Jun 2011, at 14:14, Chris Moore wrote: > >> I guess it explains why they hired the THX audio guy from Lucas. >> On 23 Jun 2011, at 14:09, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Don't get too excited people. This kind of thing works well when moving in anx-y plane, but the Z axis poses problems for directional audio. They may be using binaural processing or HRTF functions to negate this, but I'm rather sceptical. Incidentally, we use a similar technique for rendering math. >>> >>> D?nal >>> On 23 Jun 2011, at 14:05, Chris Moore wrote: >>> >>>> Apple's 'directional audio' concept is like multitouch for the ears >>>> By Neil Hughes >>>> >>>> Published: 08:00 AM EST >>>> >>>> Apple has worked on "directional audio" technology, specifically employed as an audio user interface, allowing users to make selections and navigate menus based on audio cues in a three-dimensional surround sound environment. >>>> >>>> The concept was revealed this week in a new patent application made public by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office named "Directional Audio Interface for Portable Media Device." Discovered by AppleInsider, the filing shows Apple's interest in creating advanced portable devices and accompanying headphones to augment the user interface of the device. >>>> >>>> The concept includes one or more "audible control nodes," which are perceived by the user through sound to be located at different points around them. Like the multitouch interface Apple popularized with the iPhone, it's a new twist on an existing way to interact with a portable device, far more advanced than the Voice Over controls featured on the iPod touch. >>>> >>>> Apple's application notes that in some contexts, such as driving or running, a user may need to interact with their device in a non-visual manner. While simple actions such as pressing an on/off switch or skipping to the next track may be relatively simple, more complex actions like searching for a particular media file are too difficult to accomplish without visual feedback. >>>> >>>> The solution proposed by Apple is an "alternative user interface" that could supplement a device like an iPhone or iPod, allowing users the ability to interact with and control without seeing. This would be accomplished in part through audible cues to the user delivered in a three-dimensional space. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> When an option is presented to a user, it could be selected by physically moving the portable device in the direction of the "audible control node." In essence, a user would hear a sound from a particular location via their headphones, and would point a motion-detecting device like an iPhone in that direction to select it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The application notes that with binaural output to a user through a stereo headset, a portable device can reproduce "spatially distinct" sounds. Coupled with a motion sensor in the device, this audio-based user interface would supplement or perhaps even replace a visual user interface. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Menu items could be presented in a variety of forms, including synthesized text-to-speech, recorded speech, or samples of recorded music. Audio cues could also be played back sequentially or all at once. >>>> >>>> Apple's patent application, made public this week, was first filed in December of 2009. It is credited to Aram Lindahl and Richard Powell. >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 23 15:00:03 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:00:03 +1000 Subject: Protools Audio Studio now accessible Message-ID: Subject line says everything which needs to be said. If you're in Australia then go to and take advantage of the half price special, think its only available for 24 hours. From abreier at kc.rr.com Thu Jun 23 17:00:47 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:00:47 -0500 Subject: Fw: STATE OF THE ART; A Library Of Listening, Made by You Message-ID: <80BF01BC31EE4F848358C7DB828AB210@andrea78cdd59a> The iPhone as well as many other options to play this thing. Enjoy! Hugs, AJ ----- > Let us start the day with a great article from the Ny Time's David Pogue. > Which I illegally transcribe here for all of you, in full, for your > reading > pleasure and edification, smile. > > STATE OF THE ART; A Library Of Listening, Made by You > By DAVID POGUE > Published: May 26, 2011 > > Want to know the real problem with the digital age? There's not enough to > listen to. > > I mean, what is there, other than your iPod music, your phone, AM/FM > radio, > satellite radio, podcasts, Internet radio stations, Pandora, Rhapsody, > Napster, Slacker, Live365 and maybe one or two hundred other sources? > > I kid, of course. The thing is, though, they're all compromises. The free > ones don't let you choose exactly what you want to hear or when; the ones > that do cost money. > > But that's about to change. One phrase should tell you all you need to > know > about the latest development: free TiVo for radio. > > That's the promise ofDAR.fm, a Web site that lists every single radio show > on every one of 1,800 AM and FM stations across the country. (It stands > for > Digital Audio Recorder.) > > You can search, sort, slice and dice those listings any way you want: by > genre, by radio station, by search phrase. It's all here: NPR, Rush > Limbaugh, Glenn Beck. Music shows. Talk shows. Religion, sports, > technology. > Politics by the pound. > > You don't know or care when your show will actually be aired, or on what > station. You only know that you've requested it. Shortly thereafter, an > e-mail message lets you know that your freshly baked show is ready for > listening. > > You get every episode, automatically. And why not? It's not your hard > drive > they're filling up. You get two gigabytes of free storage, enough for > about > 100 hours of recorded shows. If you fill in the application page at > MP3Tunes.com, you get a free upgrade to 10 gigabytes. That's 500 hours of > radio, which is almost enough to cover your next layover at O'Hare. > > And here's the best part: you can listen absolutely anywhere. For > starters, > you can listen right there on the DAR.fm Web page. The page that lists > your > recordings wasn't designed by, you know, Monet, but it gets the job done. > You can pause, rewind and fast-forward through your recordings, and there > are 30-second skip forward/skip backward buttons. > > Actually, maybe this part is even better: Many radio stations transmit the > names of the songs and bands they're playing. DAR.fm captures that > information and detects song breaks. In other words, if you record a day > or > so of a music station, you've suddenly got a tidy list of songs, > identified > (and sortable) by title or band. You can listen to individual songs, skip > the turkeys and otherwise enjoy your totally free song collection. It's > crazy cool, like a hybrid of iTunes and satellite radio. > > You can also listen to your recordings on an app phone, using a free app > for > that purpose. (The app for iPhone is called Airband; for Android, it's > MP3Tunes; for Windows Phone 7, Locker Player; for WebOS, MP3tunes.) Can > you > imagine having the last few weeks' worth of every worthwhile radio show, > right on your phone? Sure, subscribing to podcasts achieves a similar > goal -- but not every show is available as a podcast. And this way, you > never have to sync your phone with your computer. > > For best results, listen when your phone is in a Wi-Fi hot spot. > Otherwise, > streaming music will rip through your monthly data allowance like the > winner > of a hot-dog-eating contest. > > Or use the trick described at dar.fm/faq.php. It tells you how to download > your recordings, so you can listen to them later without an Internet > connection. (Yes, you can even download individual songs that you > captured. > The record-company lawyers must love that part.) > > Even more intriguingly, you can listen to your recordings on an actual, > physical radio. You know, one of those tabletop things with speakers and > knobs. These days, they come with wireless Internet connections -- which > is > all DAR.fm needs to know. > > The Wi-Fi radios from Grace Digital ($80 to $200) list DAR.fm right on the > main menu. Selecting that source instantly presents your list of recorded > radio shows. > > But Grace radios aren't your only option. The person who created DAR.fm > also > runs a company called MP3Tunes.com. It's an online storage locker for your > music files, so that you can play them from any computer or phone, > anywhere > you go. > > (If this sounds familiar, it's because Amazon introduced a nearly > identical > service last month, called Amazon Cloud Player. Google just opened a > ''cloud > music locker'' service, too. Needless to say, the headlines about this > ''new'' kind of music service drives the MP3Tunes guy crazy; his site has > been in operation for four years.) > > Whenever you record a show at DAR.fm, it shows up automatically in your > MP3Tunes.com music locker. And the contents of that locker are viewable, > and > playable, on 30 different Wi-Fi radio models from various manufacturers, > and > even the Roku set-top TV box. > > The Logitech Squeezebox is one of them, and it's representative of how you > would get to your recorded radio shows. You set up by installing an > MP3Tunes > app and putting it on your main menu. Thereafter, you choose MP3Tunes; > then, > in the next menu, Playlists. Inside, you'll find all your recorded shows. > So -- another couple of steps. > > (The Squeezebox can also accommodate a battery, sold separately, so ''All > Things Considered'' can follow you around the house as you do your > springtime chores.) > > So here's the bottom line: DAR.fm is a joy to use, it's simple enough to > be > idiotproof, and the sound quality is very good. And it's absolutely free. > > Where's the catch? > > First, it won't always be free. The company intends to incorporate ads at > some point -- not audio ads, but text ads that appear in your app or the > screen of your radio. > > Second, you have to wonder about the legality of all this. The company > says > that it's in the clear. It points to a 2008 case involving Cablevision, > the > cable company, which offered its subscribers a service that could record > your favorite TV shows by remote control -- like a TiVo, except that the > recording machines were at Cablevision and not at your house. The judge > ruled that this plan was O.K. because Cablevision wasn't actually making > copies of copyrighted material; it was creating separate recording for > each > customer who requested it. > > That's what DAR says it's doing. If 8,000 people all record a certain > episode of ''Fresh Air,'' then, by golly, it makes 8,000 copies of that > audio file at its headquarters. Seems wasteful, but hey -- that's what the > judge wants. > > Third, there are a few minor features that might be nice to add. The main > one is that you have to program your recordings on the Web -- you can't do > itfrom your physical Wi-Fi radio. Similarly, if you're listening to a live > show on your Wi-Fi radio, there's no Record button. > > But those complaints sound like an application for the Nitpickers Society. > DAR.fm is fantastic, useful, easy to use and free. It's real TiVo for > radio. > It lets you time shift, of course, but also presents the entire universe > of > radio broadcasting in one tidy menu. No longer must you gripe about the > creeping commercialism that shut down, say, your town's NPR affiliate or > '70s reggae station. Suddenly there are 1,800 radio stations in your > town -- > and they program their shows according to your schedule, not theirs. > > You've complained about having nothing to listen to for the very last > time. > > PHOTOS: Using Wi-Fi technology, Grace Digital radios like the model > GDI-IRD4000 enable the listener to select the DAR.fm service from the main > menu.; The Logitech Squeezebox Radio is one of many brands that can > provide > access to an Internet playlist. (B11) > DRAWING (DRAWING BY STUART GOLDENBERG) (B1) > > > Reginald George From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 18:34:00 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:34:00 -0700 Subject: Protools Audio Studio now accessible In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah I heard about this last year. 8.5 and up if memory servers me right. The petitionI signed went well I guess. lol! I don't know how usable it is and there are some things we can't do yet like punch in and out elegantly with out sighted help but I"m sure avid will hopefully incorporate this. On Jun 23, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Subject line says everything which needs to be said. > > If you're in Australia then go to and take advantage of the half price special, think its only available for 24 hours. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 18:35:25 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:35:25 -0700 Subject: setting up an email alias for gmail? In-Reply-To: <67D73F29-D698-471E-BD2A-02D2B25A2AE4@mac-access.net> References: <67D73F29-D698-471E-BD2A-02D2B25A2AE4@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <68EE8B45-5ED8-422F-842E-1154EAF11597@gmail.com> If you mean something like that you can som something simmiler. I'll use janedoe at gmail.com for an example. If she wanted to comunicte about her podcast she could tell poeple to write to janedoe+podcast at gmail.com and for her bills? janedoe+money at gmail.com and so forth. Take care. On Jun 22, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Justin Mann wrote: > Hi al, > I know this is probably slightly off topic, but I've hard that I can setup an email alias for a gmail acount. So instead of having jmann627 at gmail.com I can have justin.mann at gmail.com. Is this possible? If so, how? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Thu Jun 23 18:45:53 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:45:53 -0400 Subject: Removing a partition from a flash drive Message-ID: Hi all, I have a thumb drive which I formatted as fat 32, that way I could use it on my WIndows machine. I saw two partitions but thought nothing of this until I went to put the drive into my PC. Turns out only the smaller partition is accessible, and that one is really really small. All it has on it is spotlight and trash files. All my stuff is on the bigger partition. So my question is, how do I fix this? I want one partition with all my stuff accessible by Windows. Thanks, Rose From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 23 18:56:20 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 03:56:20 +1000 Subject: drop box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E037E44.7020702@internode.on.net> I posted instructions on how to do this to the list some time ago, an article on this subject appeared in Mac Accessibility News so it will all be in the archive if you care to look. On 23/06/2011 10:48 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > Hi, > > What version of drop box is accessable with the mac and can we set up without sighted help? > > Thanks, > Caitlyn > > Caitlyn Furness > lavendar at bell.net > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 19:44:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:44:56 -0700 Subject: drop box In-Reply-To: <4E037E44.7020702@internode.on.net> References: <4E037E44.7020702@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Yeah you can. Just run the app from the dmg and follow the directions given. Everything should be seoected for you so jsut hit next until it is set up. Take care. On Jun 23, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > I posted instructions on how to do this to the list some time ago, an article on this subject appeared in Mac Accessibility News so it will all be in the archive if you care to look. > > > > On 23/06/2011 10:48 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: >> Hi, >> >> What version of drop box is accessable with the mac and can we set up without sighted help? >> >> Thanks, >> Caitlyn >> >> Caitlyn Furness >> lavendar at bell.net >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > skype callto:grtdane12 > MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 23 20:28:20 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:28:20 +0100 Subject: DropBox Status In-Reply-To: <10401590-4853-477A-88C8-66136662B56A@anarchie.org.uk> References: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> <91BFE29E-93A5-4780-8954-C3D5C66C0134@gmail.com> <9126B0A2-8D75-4824-B075-E57A7B3D2A52@mac-access.net> <10401590-4853-477A-88C8-66136662B56A@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <5E032348-754F-440A-9CA4-7F2FBA8915D1@mac-access.net> Hello Anne On 23 Jun 2011, at 08:25, Anne Robertson wrote: ? Have you tried using Mousekeys? That works for me in the Status menu. To my shame, this is something I cannot remember how to do. I'm embarrassed to admit it; but there it is. Now that we're back home I will try and look again at this. I will also write you off list regarding other matters. Lynne Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Jun 23 20:38:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:38:24 +0100 Subject: Tables in Pages & Numbers In-Reply-To: <73ECB0AF-B73D-4D7E-93C9-B75D36F41A06@anarchie.org.uk> References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> <4F032192-36FE-442A-82FA-9EBA42DC3567@blueyonder.co.uk> <73ECB0AF-B73D-4D7E-93C9-B75D36F41A06@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Anne On 23 Jun 2011, at 08:42, Anne Robertson wrote: ? When using Pages, you can handle tables by copying them into Numbers and editing them there, then copying them back into the Pages document. You can't read them in Pages where they show up to VoiceOver as highlighted spaces. Isn't this a little error-prone? What happens if, for instance, you inadvertently edit something once you've copied them back into Pages? You'd never know. Lynne Cheers, Anne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Thu Jun 23 22:27:47 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:27:47 -0300 Subject: Amadeus question. Message-ID: Hi Folks: Is there a difference in the degree of accessibility between Amadeus Lite and Amadeus Pro? Thanks all over the place. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 23 22:40:26 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:40:26 +1000 Subject: Amadeus question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E66D0F0-8056-4211-88E9-6122CDE1421D@internode.on.net> I shouldn't think there would be as the Interface seems very similar. I can't say for sure though as I use the Pro version, doesn't cost all that much more than the Light. On 24/06/2011, at 7:27 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Is there a difference in the degree of accessibility between Amadeus Lite and Amadeus Pro? > > Thanks all over the place. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Thu Jun 23 23:02:52 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:02:52 -1000 Subject: MouseKeys to move to Dropbox Status Icon [was Re: DropBox Status] In-Reply-To: <5E032348-754F-440A-9CA4-7F2FBA8915D1@mac-access.net> References: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> <91BFE29E-93A5-4780-8954-C3D5C66C0134@gmail.com> <9126B0A2-8D75-4824-B075-E57A7B3D2A52@mac-access.net> <10401590-4853-477A-88C8-66136662B56A@anarchie.org.uk> <5E032348-754F-440A-9CA4-7F2FBA8915D1@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, This is actually in the list archive discussions, but I can outline the background principles here. The issue for the status bar menu icons for Dropbox and other apps that VoiceOver cannot directly navigate to is that there are no "hooks" that allow VoiceOver to direct its cursor movements to these locations. However, if you manage to move your mouse cursor over these icons, VoiceOver can tell you what is under the cursor (VO-F5). Similarly, if you click with mouse or trackpad in this location you can access the status menu bar icons. This is the principle underlying Sarah's instructions (variants of which were posted by Nic, me, Colin, and others in earlier discussions): with either the Trackpad or the Mouse, you can move your mouse cursor to the top of the screen in the region of the status menu bar. Since your mouse cursor or trackpad cursor is not allowed to move outside of the screen region, it stays pegged at the minimum y pixel position. That's enough to activate an icon, if your mouse cursor passes over the active region for the icon in the x pixel direction (when you move left and right). The reason this is easier to do with a Trackpad, is that you can use the top horizontal edge of the Trackpad to guide your left-right mouse cursor motion (directed by your finger) once you get to the top of the screen. In principal, you could also do this with a Mouse, by using the edge of a tray or with the edge of a ruler taped to a surface. You can also move to the position of a status bar icon using MouseKeys to move your mouse cursor as Anne described, especially if you know the (x,y) pixel position of the icon you want to move to on the screen. Usually, the icon for Dropbox or other icon that VoiceOver doesn't "see" will be to the left of the cursor position you move to when you do VO-m-m (or Control-F8, as I prefer to use). This is because new icons get added to the left on the status menu bar, and ones accessible to VoiceOver are all likely to be in your base configuration. (This need not be true if you added Dropbox, Growl, or other applications with status menu icons that VoiceOver can't navigate to before you added another Apple supported status menu icon -- for example, if you added these applications, and then decided to display your Universal Access or Bluetooth menu icon status in the status menu bar, these "invisible" icons will be to the right of the location to move to with Control-F8.) Most, but not all, status menu bar icons will occupy an area of 30 by 30 pixels in size on the screen. If you navigate with VoiceOver to each successive "visible" icon on the status menu bar, and check the position in pixels, you'll note that the "x" pixel value usually changes by 30 as you move to the next icon. So if your Dropbox icon were immediately to the left of the icon you move to with Control-F8 to get to the status menu bar, you would only probably have to move your mouse cursor 30 pixels to the left to be centered on the Dropbox icon on the status menu bar and click it. MouseKeys gives you a way of moving your cursor position independently of VoiceOver. It's primarily meant for individuals with motor control disabilities, so while they might be able to see the position they want to move their mouse to, they can't easily move directly to the location they want with a single mouse or trackpad motion. When MouseKeys are turned on, key presses of the arrow keys on the numeric keypad move the cursor by one pixel in each direction from the central key ('5") on the numeric keypad. So with VoiceOver, if you disable cursor tracking, and turn on MouseKeys, you can move your cursor to any location with key presses. Then you can click the location to bring up a menu, and you can turn MouseKeys off and enable cursor tracking when you want to go back to VoiceOver navigation. The only thing you need to do to use MouseKeys is to map the pixel locations of the status menu bar icons you need to navigate to. In VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8) go to Verbosity (Command-2). Change the pop up menu for "Speak size and position" from "inches" or "millimeters" to "pixels". Now when you query the location of the mouse cursor with VO-F5-F5, you'll hear the x and y pixel location reported in pixels. The first VO-F5 tells you what is under the mouse (e.g. "Dropbox is under the mouse"). The second VO-F5 (when you press F5 twice while holding down the VO keys) tells you the x and y location of the mouse cursor from the top left of the screen (now reported in pixels), The third VO-F5 (when you triple tap F5 while holding down the VO keys) tells you the x and y location of the mouse cursor from the top left corner of your window (now in pixels). Lynne, since you can see the location of the Dropbox icon on the status menu bar, you could simply move the mouse cursor to this location (with cursor tracking off in VoiceOver), then read off its location with VO-F5-F5 (set to report in pixels). Then you could read off the position of the closest status menu bar icon that VoiceOver can navigate to with VO-F5-F5. This is likely to be the icon you move to with Control-F8. However, any VoiceOver user can do this for himself or herself with MouseKeys. I just start at the Control-F8 position, turn cursor tracking off and MouseKeys on, and start pressing the key to move left in groups of 10 before checking with VO-F5 to hear when VoiceOver says "Dropbox is under the mouse". Then I remember how many key presses it takes to shift to this icon with MouseKeys. I do this on a laptop, so MouseKeys uses the location of the old embedded numeric keypad. The "i" key is the central position, and the "u" key to the left moves me one pixel to the left, while the "o" key to the right moves me one pixel to the right. I can also double tap the "i" key to do a click while in MouseKeys. You'll want to set up your Universal Access Menu so you can turn MouseKeys on and off by tapping the Option key 5 times. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 23, 2011, at 09:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Anne > > On 23 Jun 2011, at 08:25, Anne Robertson wrote: > > ? Have you tried using Mousekeys? That works for me in the Status menu. > > To my shame, this is something I cannot remember how to do. I'm embarrassed to admit it; but there it is. Now that we're back home I will try and look again at this. I will also write you off list regarding other matters. > > Lynne > > > > Lynne > From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Jun 23 23:15:40 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:15:40 +1000 Subject: MouseKeys to move to Dropbox Status Icon [was Re: DropBox Status] In-Reply-To: References: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> <91BFE29E-93A5-4780-8954-C3D5C66C0134@gmail.com> <9126B0A2-8D75-4824-B075-E57A7B3D2A52@mac-access.net> <10401590-4853-477A-88C8-66136662B56A@anarchie.org.uk> <5E032348-754F-440A-9CA4-7F2FBA8915D1@mac-access.net> Message-ID: thank, that's exactly what I've been trying to tell people over the 8 months or so . On 24/06/2011, at 8:02 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > This is actually in the list archive discussions, but I can outline the background principles here. The issue for the status bar menu icons for Dropbox and other apps that VoiceOver cannot directly navigate to is that there are no "hooks" that allow VoiceOver to direct its cursor movements to these locations. However, if you manage to move your mouse cursor over these icons, VoiceOver can tell you what is under the cursor (VO-F5). Similarly, if you click with mouse or trackpad in this location you can access the status menu bar icons. This is the principle underlying Sarah's instructions (variants of which were posted by Nic, me, Colin, and others in earlier discussions): with either the Trackpad or the Mouse, you can move your mouse cursor to the top of the screen in the region of the status menu bar. Since your mouse cursor or trackpad cursor is not allowed to move outside of the screen region, it stays pegged at the minimum y pixel position. That's enough to activate an icon, if your mouse cursor passes over the active region for the icon in the x pixel direction (when you move left and right). The reason this is easier to do with a Trackpad, is that you can use the top horizontal edge of the Trackpad to guide your left-right mouse cursor motion (directed by your finger) once you get to the top of the screen. In principal, you could also do this with a Mouse, by using the edge of a tray or with the edge of a ruler taped to a surface. > > You can also move to the position of a status bar icon using MouseKeys to move your mouse cursor as Anne described, especially if you know the (x,y) pixel position of the icon you want to move to on the screen. Usually, the icon for Dropbox or other icon that VoiceOver doesn't "see" will be to the left of the cursor position you move to when you do VO-m-m (or Control-F8, as I prefer to use). This is because new icons get added to the left on the status menu bar, and ones accessible to VoiceOver are all likely to be in your base configuration. (This need not be true if you added Dropbox, Growl, or other applications with status menu icons that VoiceOver can't navigate to before you added another Apple supported status menu icon -- for example, if you added these applications, and then decided to display your Universal Access or Bluetooth menu icon status in the status menu bar, these "invisible" icons will be to the right of the location to move to with Control-F8.) Most, but not all, status menu bar icons will occupy an area of 30 by 30 pixels in size on the screen. If you navigate with VoiceOver to each successive "visible" icon on the status menu bar, and check the position in pixels, you'll note that the "x" pixel value usually changes by 30 as you move to the next icon. So if your Dropbox icon were immediately to the left of the icon you move to with Control-F8 to get to the status menu bar, you would only probably have to move your mouse cursor 30 pixels to the left to be centered on the Dropbox icon on the status menu bar and click it. > > MouseKeys gives you a way of moving your cursor position independently of VoiceOver. It's primarily meant for individuals with motor control disabilities, so while they might be able to see the position they want to move their mouse to, they can't easily move directly to the location they want with a single mouse or trackpad motion. When MouseKeys are turned on, key presses of the arrow keys on the numeric keypad move the cursor by one pixel in each direction from the central key ('5") on the numeric keypad. So with VoiceOver, if you disable cursor tracking, and turn on MouseKeys, you can move your cursor to any location with key presses. Then you can click the location to bring up a menu, and you can turn MouseKeys off and enable cursor tracking when you want to go back to VoiceOver navigation. > > The only thing you need to do to use MouseKeys is to map the pixel locations of the status menu bar icons you need to navigate to. In VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8) go to Verbosity (Command-2). Change the pop up menu for "Speak size and position" from "inches" or "millimeters" to "pixels". Now when you query the location of the mouse cursor with VO-F5-F5, you'll hear the x and y pixel location reported in pixels. The first VO-F5 tells you what is under the mouse (e.g. "Dropbox is under the mouse"). The second VO-F5 (when you press F5 twice while holding down the VO keys) tells you the x and y location of the mouse cursor from the top left of the screen (now reported in pixels), The third VO-F5 (when you triple tap F5 while holding down the VO keys) tells you the x and y location of the mouse cursor from the top left corner of your window (now in pixels). > > Lynne, since you can see the location of the Dropbox icon on the status menu bar, you could simply move the mouse cursor to this location (with cursor tracking off in VoiceOver), then read off its location with VO-F5-F5 (set to report in pixels). Then you could read off the position of the closest status menu bar icon that VoiceOver can navigate to with VO-F5-F5. This is likely to be the icon you move to with Control-F8. However, any VoiceOver user can do this for himself or herself with MouseKeys. I just start at the Control-F8 position, turn cursor tracking off and MouseKeys on, and start pressing the key to move left in groups of 10 before checking with VO-F5 to hear when VoiceOver says "Dropbox is under the mouse". Then I remember how many key presses it takes to shift to this icon with MouseKeys. > > I do this on a laptop, so MouseKeys uses the location of the old embedded numeric keypad. The "i" key is the central position, and the "u" key to the left moves me one pixel to the left, while the "o" key to the right moves me one pixel to the right. I can also double tap the "i" key to do a click while in MouseKeys. You'll want to set up your Universal Access Menu so you can turn MouseKeys on and off by tapping the Option key 5 times. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 23, 2011, at 09:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Anne >> >> On 23 Jun 2011, at 08:25, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >> ? Have you tried using Mousekeys? That works for me in the Status menu. >> >> To my shame, this is something I cannot remember how to do. I'm embarrassed to admit it; but there it is. Now that we're back home I will try and look again at this. I will also write you off list regarding other matters. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> >> Lynne >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jun 24 00:06:22 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:06:22 -0300 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question. Message-ID: Hi Gang: Is there any way to adjust the scrubbing control with the Left/Right arrow keys? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 24 00:19:11 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:19:11 +1000 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> Not really, don't know whether adjusting the pitch with the up and down arrow keys has any effect on how fast the left and right arrow keys move, this is something I've written to the developer about as I'd like to see more control over the speed of left and right arrow, there's an audio editor out there which has scrubbing controls which behave exactly as you'd expect with a cue/review facility on a cassette recorder or facilities on a reel-to-reel tape recorder but its for Windows so can't give it a mention suffice to say its a damn good editor and very accessible. On 24/06/2011, at 9:06 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Gang: > > Is there any way to adjust the scrubbing control with the Left/Right arrow keys? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jun 24 01:00:31 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:00:31 -0300 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question. In-Reply-To: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> References: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <02D02128ED1B441CA8C571A3C697C3F9@MainComputer> Dane: I know the program you're talking about. I have it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:19 PM Subject: Re: Amadeus Pro Question. > Not really, don't know whether adjusting the pitch with the up and down > arrow keys has any effect on how fast the left and right arrow keys move, > this is something I've written to the developer about as I'd like to see > more control over the speed of left and right arrow, there's an audio > editor out there which has scrubbing controls which behave exactly as > you'd expect with a cue/review facility on a cassette recorder or > facilities on a reel-to-reel tape recorder but its for Windows so can't > give it a mention suffice to say its a damn good editor and very > accessible. > > > On 24/06/2011, at 9:06 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Gang: >> >> Is there any way to adjust the scrubbing control with the Left/Right >> arrow keys? >> >> Thanks all over the place gang. >> >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy >> Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From moriond at mac.com Fri Jun 24 01:14:10 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:14:10 -1000 Subject: MouseKeys to move to Dropbox Status Icon [was Re: DropBox Status] In-Reply-To: References: <044AB27A-C958-4B90-86CD-7D77E36AFC4E@mac-access.net> <91BFE29E-93A5-4780-8954-C3D5C66C0134@gmail.com> <9126B0A2-8D75-4824-B075-E57A7B3D2A52@mac-access.net> <10401590-4853-477A-88C8-66136662B56A@anarchie.org.uk> <5E032348-754F-440A-9CA4-7F2FBA8915D1@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <74ADBAB2-7D9C-4D53-95C4-2792DB506E04@mac.com> Hi all, I'll just add a couple of quick comments to my post about MouseKeys navigation. First, I meant to add that the "Announcements" tab in the Verbosity menu of VoiceOver Utility is where you set VoiceOver to announce pixel locations when you use VO-F5-F5 (under the pop up menu following "Speak size and position"). Secondly, you don't have to be exactly at the center of the icon to be able to click with your mouse or trackpad on the icon to access it -- you'll find that VO-F5 will report that "Dropbox is under the mouse" over nearly the full region of the icon, so you can be 14 pixels away from the center of the icon and still have your cursor register as having Dropbox as being "under the mouse". That's why moving to the top of the screen with mouse or trackpad still lets you find status menu bar icons under your mouse if you try to move with trackpad or mouse without using MouseKeys (e.g., the method Sarah outlined). That's also why I can move with MouseKeys sampling every 10 pixels (or even more) between checks of what is under the mouse and map out status bar icon positions, yet still be sure of not missing an icon. The only annoying thing about MouseKeys is that it's meant for small movements, so it's fine if your Dropbox icon is just next to the Control+F8 position that VoiceOver can find, and you only have to move 20 key presses to the left, or so. It's more of a nuisance if you have to press that key 60 times! In principle, you should be able to command an arbitrary offset motion to move the cursor and script it. That's the basis of the experiments Paul has been doing with the BBC iPlayer controls, and that Bryan Smart has been experimenting with implementing in the VoxKeys project. However, the advantage of using MouseKeys is that it's very straightforward. So even though I usually use my trackpad to move to the status menu bar icons in a fashion similar to what Sarah outlined, I'd give remote directions to someone to try MouseKeys, because that can be done very precisely, regardless of their setup (laptop, desktop, mouse, trackpad, and regardless of what icons are on the status menu bar). It may take longer to explain and set up for the first time use, but it doesn't require getting a "feel" for movement with the Trackpad or Mouse. Cheers, Esther From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 02:23:27 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:23:27 -0700 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question. In-Reply-To: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> References: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Sure. Hit the minus key bo zome out and move the curser a lot more when hitting right and left arrow and hit the plus key, shift equals if you have a lapotp to zoom in and have fine addjutments. This is the way I'm able to make fine edits in amadeus. Take care. On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Not really, don't know whether adjusting the pitch with the up and down arrow keys has any effect on how fast the left and right arrow keys move, this is something I've written to the developer about as I'd like to see more control over the speed of left and right arrow, there's an audio editor out there which has scrubbing controls which behave exactly as you'd expect with a cue/review facility on a cassette recorder or facilities on a reel-to-reel tape recorder but its for Windows so can't give it a mention suffice to say its a damn good editor and very accessible. > > > On 24/06/2011, at 9:06 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Gang: >> >> Is there any way to adjust the scrubbing control with the Left/Right arrow keys? >> >> Thanks all over the place gang. >> >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 24 02:38:03 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:38:03 +1000 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question. In-Reply-To: References: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <92AE8A57-1F52-413B-879B-E8B9309E9438@internode.on.net> Yep true but I don't think it affects the scrubbing speed does it? On 24/06/2011, at 11:23 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Sure. Hit the minus key bo zome out and move the curser a lot more when hitting right and left arrow and hit the plus key, shift equals if you have a lapotp to zoom in and have fine addjutments. This is the way I'm able to make fine edits in amadeus. > > Take care. > On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Not really, don't know whether adjusting the pitch with the up and down arrow keys has any effect on how fast the left and right arrow keys move, this is something I've written to the developer about as I'd like to see more control over the speed of left and right arrow, there's an audio editor out there which has scrubbing controls which behave exactly as you'd expect with a cue/review facility on a cassette recorder or facilities on a reel-to-reel tape recorder but its for Windows so can't give it a mention suffice to say its a damn good editor and very accessible. >> >> >> On 24/06/2011, at 9:06 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Gang: >>> >>> Is there any way to adjust the scrubbing control with the Left/Right arrow keys? >>> >>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>> >>> >>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 03:00:08 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:00:08 -0700 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question. In-Reply-To: <92AE8A57-1F52-413B-879B-E8B9309E9438@internode.on.net> References: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> <92AE8A57-1F52-413B-879B-E8B9309E9438@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <5D17C0F2-B74E-4E58-A460-9E32140CFFEE@gmail.com> I dont' scrub. I just hold downt he arrows and play after a while. it will effect that. I've moved by miliseconds or maybe a smidge more this way just to place tht marker. On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Yep true but I don't think it affects the scrubbing speed does it? > > > On 24/06/2011, at 11:23 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Sure. Hit the minus key bo zome out and move the curser a lot more when hitting right and left arrow and hit the plus key, shift equals if you have a lapotp to zoom in and have fine addjutments. This is the way I'm able to make fine edits in amadeus. >> >> Take care. >> On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Not really, don't know whether adjusting the pitch with the up and down arrow keys has any effect on how fast the left and right arrow keys move, this is something I've written to the developer about as I'd like to see more control over the speed of left and right arrow, there's an audio editor out there which has scrubbing controls which behave exactly as you'd expect with a cue/review facility on a cassette recorder or facilities on a reel-to-reel tape recorder but its for Windows so can't give it a mention suffice to say its a damn good editor and very accessible. >>> >>> >>> On 24/06/2011, at 9:06 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Gang: >>>> >>>> Is there any way to adjust the scrubbing control with the Left/Right arrow keys? >>>> >>>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>>> >>>> >>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 24 03:08:54 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:08:54 +1000 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question. In-Reply-To: <5D17C0F2-B74E-4E58-A460-9E32140CFFEE@gmail.com> References: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> <92AE8A57-1F52-413B-879B-E8B9309E9438@internode.on.net> <5D17C0F2-B74E-4E58-A460-9E32140CFFEE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2FA59891-7F04-42BC-80CE-F23FBA3E7FE1@internode.on.net> Okay, well by Scrubbing Jim was referring to hearing audio played as you hold down either the left or the right cursor key, using - to make the cursor movement larger when using left or right arrow key presses or + to make the movement smaller of the cursor keys has no affect whatever when holding the left or right cursor key down to "Scrub" through audio. Its a very poorly implemented feature actually which is a shame as its a highly useful one. On 24/06/2011, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I dont' scrub. I just hold downt he arrows and play after a while. it will effect that. I've moved by miliseconds or maybe a smidge more this way just to place tht marker. > On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Yep true but I don't think it affects the scrubbing speed does it? >> >> >> On 24/06/2011, at 11:23 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Sure. Hit the minus key bo zome out and move the curser a lot more when hitting right and left arrow and hit the plus key, shift equals if you have a lapotp to zoom in and have fine addjutments. This is the way I'm able to make fine edits in amadeus. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>>> Not really, don't know whether adjusting the pitch with the up and down arrow keys has any effect on how fast the left and right arrow keys move, this is something I've written to the developer about as I'd like to see more control over the speed of left and right arrow, there's an audio editor out there which has scrubbing controls which behave exactly as you'd expect with a cue/review facility on a cassette recorder or facilities on a reel-to-reel tape recorder but its for Windows so can't give it a mention suffice to say its a damn good editor and very accessible. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 24/06/2011, at 9:06 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Gang: >>>>> >>>>> Is there any way to adjust the scrubbing control with the Left/Right arrow keys? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ >>>>> >>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 04:17:14 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:17:14 -0700 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question. In-Reply-To: <2FA59891-7F04-42BC-80CE-F23FBA3E7FE1@internode.on.net> References: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> <92AE8A57-1F52-413B-879B-E8B9309E9438@internode.on.net> <5D17C0F2-B74E-4E58-A460-9E32140CFFEE@gmail.com> <2FA59891-7F04-42BC-80CE-F23FBA3E7FE1@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Oh I don't scrub but maybe you can ask the dev to make that adjustment. Ah well. Take care. On Jun 23, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Okay, well by Scrubbing Jim was referring to hearing audio played as you hold down either the left or the right cursor key, using - to make the cursor movement larger when using left or right arrow key presses or + to make the movement smaller of the cursor keys has no affect whatever when holding the left or right cursor key down to "Scrub" through audio. > > Its a very poorly implemented feature actually which is a shame as its a highly useful one. > > > On 24/06/2011, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I dont' scrub. I just hold downt he arrows and play after a while. it will effect that. I've moved by miliseconds or maybe a smidge more this way just to place tht marker. >> On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Yep true but I don't think it affects the scrubbing speed does it? >>> >>> >>> On 24/06/2011, at 11:23 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Sure. Hit the minus key bo zome out and move the curser a lot more when hitting right and left arrow and hit the plus key, shift equals if you have a lapotp to zoom in and have fine addjutments. This is the way I'm able to make fine edits in amadeus. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Not really, don't know whether adjusting the pitch with the up and down arrow keys has any effect on how fast the left and right arrow keys move, this is something I've written to the developer about as I'd like to see more control over the speed of left and right arrow, there's an audio editor out there which has scrubbing controls which behave exactly as you'd expect with a cue/review facility on a cassette recorder or facilities on a reel-to-reel tape recorder but its for Windows so can't give it a mention suffice to say its a damn good editor and very accessible. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 24/06/2011, at 9:06 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Gang: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there any way to adjust the scrubbing control with the Left/Right arrow keys? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ >>>>>> >>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 24 04:34:48 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:34:48 +1000 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question. In-Reply-To: References: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> <92AE8A57-1F52-413B-879B-E8B9309E9438@internode.on.net> <5D17C0F2-B74E-4E58-A460-9E32140CFFEE@gmail.com> <2FA59891-7F04-42BC-80CE-F23FBA3E7FE1@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <3EC73B71-0630-463D-9371-5BE2932878AD@internode.on.net> If you'd read what I'd written earlier then you'll know that's exactly what I did do Oh I don't scrub but maybe you can ask the dev to make that adjustment. Ah well. > > Take care. > > On Jun 23, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Okay, well by Scrubbing Jim was referring to hearing audio played as you hold down either the left or the right cursor key, using - to make the cursor movement larger when using left or right arrow key presses or + to make the movement smaller of the cursor keys has no affect whatever when holding the left or right cursor key down to "Scrub" through audio. >> >> Its a very poorly implemented feature actually which is a shame as its a highly useful one. >> >> >> On 24/06/2011, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I dont' scrub. I just hold downt he arrows and play after a while. it will effect that. I've moved by miliseconds or maybe a smidge more this way just to place tht marker. >>> On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>>> Yep true but I don't think it affects the scrubbing speed does it? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 24/06/2011, at 11:23 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sure. Hit the minus key bo zome out and move the curser a lot more when hitting right and left arrow and hit the plus key, shift equals if you have a lapotp to zoom in and have fine addjutments. This is the way I'm able to make fine edits in amadeus. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Not really, don't know whether adjusting the pitch with the up and down arrow keys has any effect on how fast the left and right arrow keys move, this is something I've written to the developer about as I'd like to see more control over the speed of left and right arrow, there's an audio editor out there which has scrubbing controls which behave exactly as you'd expect with a cue/review facility on a cassette recorder or facilities on a reel-to-reel tape recorder but its for Windows so can't give it a mention suffice to say its a damn good editor and very accessible. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24/06/2011, at 9:06 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Gang: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there any way to adjust the scrubbing control with the Left/Right arrow keys? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>> >>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>> >>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 05:50:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:50:12 -0700 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question. In-Reply-To: <3EC73B71-0630-463D-9371-5BE2932878AD@internode.on.net> References: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> <92AE8A57-1F52-413B-879B-E8B9309E9438@internode.on.net> <5D17C0F2-B74E-4E58-A460-9E32140CFFEE@gmail.com> <2FA59891-7F04-42BC-80CE-F23FBA3E7FE1@internode.on.net> <3EC73B71-0630-463D-9371-5BE2932878AD@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <736946C0-EAA9-406C-86B0-4053051FB505@gmail.com> lol. No missed it.. I've been playing with other apps so have not been payign attention Take care. On Jun 23, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > If you'd read what I'd written earlier then you'll know that's exactly what I did do > > On 24/06/2011, at 1:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Oh I don't scrub but maybe you can ask the dev to make that adjustment. Ah well. >> >> Take care. >> >> On Jun 23, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Okay, well by Scrubbing Jim was referring to hearing audio played as you hold down either the left or the right cursor key, using - to make the cursor movement larger when using left or right arrow key presses or + to make the movement smaller of the cursor keys has no affect whatever when holding the left or right cursor key down to "Scrub" through audio. >>> >>> Its a very poorly implemented feature actually which is a shame as its a highly useful one. >>> >>> >>> On 24/06/2011, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I dont' scrub. I just hold downt he arrows and play after a while. it will effect that. I've moved by miliseconds or maybe a smidge more this way just to place tht marker. >>>> On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yep true but I don't think it affects the scrubbing speed does it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 24/06/2011, at 11:23 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sure. Hit the minus key bo zome out and move the curser a lot more when hitting right and left arrow and hit the plus key, shift equals if you have a lapotp to zoom in and have fine addjutments. This is the way I'm able to make fine edits in amadeus. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. >>>>>> On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Not really, don't know whether adjusting the pitch with the up and down arrow keys has any effect on how fast the left and right arrow keys move, this is something I've written to the developer about as I'd like to see more control over the speed of left and right arrow, there's an audio editor out there which has scrubbing controls which behave exactly as you'd expect with a cue/review facility on a cassette recorder or facilities on a reel-to-reel tape recorder but its for Windows so can't give it a mention suffice to say its a damn good editor and very accessible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 24/06/2011, at 9:06 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Gang: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there any way to adjust the scrubbing control with the Left/Right arrow keys? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>> >>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>>>> >>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami >>>> >>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>>> >>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 05:51:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:51:48 -0700 Subject: xld: how to submit to a cd db? Message-ID: Well I found a cd that is not in the cddb that xld uses, but is in the cddb itunes uses. How do I submit this list to the cddb xld uses? I tried using google but to no avail. google gave me results I didn't want. *smiles* Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jun 24 06:02:52 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:02:52 +0100 Subject: xld: how to submit to a cd db? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <188E357E-A238-4412-BE6B-2CC1A1E019E4@mac-access.net> Hello Sarah On 24 Jun 2011, at 05:51, Sarah Alawami wrote: ? Well I found a cd that is not in the cddb that xld uses, but is in the cddb itunes uses. How do I submit this list to the cddb xld uses? I tried using google but to no avail. google gave me results I didn't want. *smiles* I don't think XlD allow that function. You can edit the data and keep it in your own database but I don't think you can submit it to FreeDDB or anything. Lynne Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 07:56:26 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:56:26 -0700 Subject: xld: how to submit to a cd db? In-Reply-To: <188E357E-A238-4412-BE6B-2CC1A1E019E4@mac-access.net> References: <188E357E-A238-4412-BE6B-2CC1A1E019E4@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5FDBED5D-51DE-40FF-AC5D-6316EB9F2A05@gmail.com> OH wonderful! too bad it won't let you submit to a cddb. that would help everyone around. lol! On Jun 23, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > On 24 Jun 2011, at 05:51, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > ? Well I found a cd that is not in the cddb that xld uses, but is in the cddb itunes uses. How do I submit this list to the cddb xld uses? I tried using google but to no avail. google gave me results I didn't want. *smiles* > > I don't think XlD allow that function. You can edit the data and keep it in your own database but I don't think you can submit it to FreeDDB or anything. > > Lynne > > > Take care. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jun 24 11:18:44 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:18:44 +0100 Subject: xld: how to submit to a cd db? In-Reply-To: <5FDBED5D-51DE-40FF-AC5D-6316EB9F2A05@gmail.com> References: <188E357E-A238-4412-BE6B-2CC1A1E019E4@mac-access.net> <5FDBED5D-51DE-40FF-AC5D-6316EB9F2A05@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Sarah The problem is to be honest with you that some people just make things worse by their dreadful typing and spelling so that submissions are actually unhelpful. But you have to remember that XLD is freeware, so you take it as is or, alternatively, contact the developers or have somebody modify the source code for you. It's all there in the package. :) Lynne On 24 Jun 2011, at 07:56, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH wonderful! too bad it won't let you submit to a cddb. that would help everyone around. lol! From krbarry at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 11:26:58 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:26:58 -0400 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> Message-ID: <4e046656.a44ee50a.1779.4b36@mx.google.com> Well, IWork is somewhat accessible. You can use it some; but if you are a serious user you will not be able to do nearly what you can do with Office on a PC. KB At 07:23 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >There are a few other programs you can consider. Apple's iwork suite >is accessible, and open office is also useable. Both of these >products will open MS office documents. >On Jun 22, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Corman, Lee (OFB-LV) wrote: > > > I work for an agency for the blind and we are thinking about broadening > > our instruction by including apple products. I heard that MS Office does > > not work well with voiceover on the Mac. Is there another program out > > there that a college student can use? I am trying to get all the info I > > can since many college students now are required to take computer > > classes. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages > posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jun 24 11:51:38 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:51:38 -0300 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question. In-Reply-To: References: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hi Sarah: That's the way I thought it would work but it doesn't seem to happen for me. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:23 PM Subject: Re: Amadeus Pro Question. > Sure. Hit the minus key bo zome out and move the curser a lot more when > hitting right and left arrow and hit the plus key, shift equals if you > have a lapotp to zoom in and have fine addjutments. This is the way I'm > able to make fine edits in amadeus. > > Take care. > On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Not really, don't know whether adjusting the pitch with the up and down >> arrow keys has any effect on how fast the left and right arrow keys move, >> this is something I've written to the developer about as I'd like to see >> more control over the speed of left and right arrow, there's an audio >> editor out there which has scrubbing controls which behave exactly as >> you'd expect with a cue/review facility on a cassette recorder or >> facilities on a reel-to-reel tape recorder but its for Windows so can't >> give it a mention suffice to say its a damn good editor and very >> accessible. >> >> >> On 24/06/2011, at 9:06 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Gang: >>> >>> Is there any way to adjust the scrubbing control with the Left/Right >>> arrow keys? >>> >>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>> >>> >>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy >>> Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact > me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6235 (20110624) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6235 (20110624) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 24 12:22:30 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 21:22:30 +1000 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question. In-Reply-To: References: <8A44C93E-9BC5-4F64-B244-EB2545901A55@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <20B25CE6-E613-45AB-A05D-1E871E7D50C7@internode.on.net> as I said previously, works for cursor movement but not "scrubbing". On 24/06/2011, at 8:51 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Sarah: > > That's the way I thought it would work but it doesn't seem to happen for me. > > Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:23 PM > Subject: Re: Amadeus Pro Question. > > >> Sure. Hit the minus key bo zome out and move the curser a lot more when hitting right and left arrow and hit the plus key, shift equals if you have a lapotp to zoom in and have fine addjutments. This is the way I'm able to make fine edits in amadeus. >> >> Take care. >> On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Not really, don't know whether adjusting the pitch with the up and down arrow keys has any effect on how fast the left and right arrow keys move, this is something I've written to the developer about as I'd like to see more control over the speed of left and right arrow, there's an audio editor out there which has scrubbing controls which behave exactly as you'd expect with a cue/review facility on a cassette recorder or facilities on a reel-to-reel tape recorder but its for Windows so can't give it a mention suffice to say its a damn good editor and very accessible. >>> >>> >>> On 24/06/2011, at 9:06 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Gang: >>>> >>>> Is there any way to adjust the scrubbing control with the Left/Right arrow keys? >>>> >>>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>>> >>>> >>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6234 (20110623) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6235 (20110624) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6235 (20110624) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jun 24 12:48:47 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:48:47 +0100 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: <4e046656.a44ee50a.1779.4b36@mx.google.com> References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> <4e046656.a44ee50a.1779.4b36@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <88639DAF-9091-4A2B-AADE-25B3F0459895@mac-access.net> Hello kevin On 24 Jun 2011, at 11:26, Kevin Barry wrote: ? Well, IWork is somewhat accessible. You can use it some; but if you are a serious user you will not be able to do nearly what you can do with Office on a PC. Please don't take this in any way personally; but I'm amazed by that comment to be honest. I also wonder whether, in some people's cases, the presumption of inaccessibility is due to a lack of knowledge. I'm not implying that that's the case with you; but I know that some people have posted about things being inaccessible or not working and in actual fact it has turned out to be a lack of knowledge which has caused them to think that. Actually in all fairness that probably applies to myself on a couple of occasions. But I submit that there are some "serious users", to use your terminology, on this list; and they use iWork and similar tools to accomplish everything. In fact, many of us use nothing in Windows now; we still manage to accomplish what we need on this platform. And yes, some users do produce some very sophisticated documents using OS X. I think that sometimes it depends upon how innovative you're prepared to be. Lynne From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Fri Jun 24 13:50:46 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:50:46 -0400 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: <88639DAF-9091-4A2B-AADE-25B3F0459895@mac-access.net> References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> <4e046656.a44ee50a.1779.4b36@mx.google.com> <88639DAF-9091-4A2B-AADE-25B3F0459895@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3D4EC97E-CCB3-4ADC-ADD1-9533F778B0B9@chicksdigmacs.net> I'm agreeing with Lynn on this one. I've been through plenty of scenarios where someone has told me something is inaccessible, and I'm going to myself, uh, no it's not. I'll claim guilt for this as well. I've thought things were inaccessible only to find out that they, in fact, are. I think Lynn said it best when she used the word innovative. Some people feel, it isn't accomplished the way it is in Windows, so it therefore can't be done at all. I say if you really love the OS X platform, you'll love the research you might need to do to figure out how to accomplish a specific task. As for Pages, I did my own thorough investigation of it yesterday. It's really not as bad as people are making it out to be. It does some things I didn't know it could do. That being footnotes, endnotes, track changes, table of contents, indexes, and outlines. I was quite impressed with the inspector window as well. Let's also not forget that headers and footers are a breeze. Additionally, a footnote or endnote gets that same extra field the way headers and footers do, so you have no excuse for placing it in the wrong part of the document. Section breaks and endnotes can also be very useful. I'm starting to think this is a great app for research papers. Now, complaints regarding importing documents over to Office may be valid if you're dealing with complex formatting. But your average user won't need that. Bottom line? I think Pqges does a lot more than we give it credit for. Ok, it's not Office. But not everyone needs all that Office has to offer. I encourage all of you to think about your situation, re-evaluate. Pages might just work in your particular scenario. If you're not sure that it will, check out the Pages user guide. Apple has manuals for pretty much all their built-in apps. Rose On Jun 24, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello kevin > > On 24 Jun 2011, at 11:26, Kevin Barry wrote: > > ? Well, IWork is somewhat accessible. > You can use it some; but if you are a serious user you will not be able to do nearly what you can do with Office on a PC. > > Please don't take this in any way personally; but I'm amazed by that comment to be honest. I also wonder whether, in some people's cases, the presumption of inaccessibility is due to a lack of knowledge. I'm not implying that that's the case with you; but I know that some people have posted about things being inaccessible or not working and in actual fact it has turned out to be a lack of knowledge which has caused them to think that. Actually in all fairness that probably applies to myself on a couple of occasions. > > But I submit that there are some "serious users", to use your terminology, on this list; and they use iWork and similar tools to accomplish everything. In fact, many of us use nothing in Windows now; we still manage to accomplish what we need on this platform. And yes, some users do produce some very sophisticated documents using OS X. I think that sometimes it depends upon how innovative you're prepared to be. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Jun 24 14:39:45 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:39:45 +0100 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: <3D4EC97E-CCB3-4ADC-ADD1-9533F778B0B9@chicksdigmacs.net> References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> <4e046656.a44ee50a.1779.4b36@mx.google.com> <88639DAF-9091-4A2B-AADE-25B3F0459895@mac-access.net> <3D4EC97E-CCB3-4ADC-ADD1-9533F778B0B9@chicksdigmacs.net> Message-ID: <5C31845F-2635-42B3-9485-1531F912C095@mac-access.net> Hello Rose Thank you, first of all, for the endorsement. I just speak as I find; and I honestly believe that some people are perhaps a little quick to judge, slow to change. That isn't a criticism; it's a natural human instinct and we're all guilty of it at times. But I think you are so so right when you say that people look for what Office does and, when they don't see it, they instantly decide that Pages isn't accessible or isn't useable. Indeed Gordon and I have encountered numerous situations where people have been shown the Mac, by us, and because things work differently to Windows, they walk away and won't listen to another word. That is, of course, entirely their prerogative but it's also very sad. I do not wish in any way to make this a personal issue and I certainly am not for one moment suggesting that any specific individual is in my mind here. But I too encourage people to give this thing a fare go before shouting to the heavens that it isn't accessible. I am not blind; but I have noticed many times that some, and I use that word very deliberately; some visually impaired people have a slightly strange idea of what constitutes "accessible" For instance, we have met people who simply can't get their heads around the non-MSAA browser interface. Those people have lived very sheltered computer lives, that is pretty obvious. B because their Windows-based solution hides the real world from them, when confronted by the real world they fine themselves in a bit of a battle. I understand that to a point; and if people are prepared to help themselves I think they'll find that in, for instance, this community they will be given all the help and support we can possibly give them. But sadly there are those who simply refuse to adapt. There are some who hide behind the "I don't have time" excuse. Yes I know that's genuine in some cases. But it is also used as an excuse at times. When I first came into this situation in late 2007 I didn't know much else except point & click under Windows. But thanks to the patience of a dedicated teacher and, in no small part, thanks to the Mac Access community, I have learned loads; and now am quite happy to find my way around the platform. I've even dabbled with the terminal and I'd never have believed I would do that. I also make a very deliberate point of using VoiceOver, quite voluntarily and quite frequently. I want to learn; I take an interest. Both Gordon and I have, and regularly do, use Pages to accomplish serious Office tasks. Gordon is, as I write, working on a report which must be properly presented and guess what he's using to compile that report; yeah, you've guessed, Pages! Later today we hope to try the new Nisus Writer Pro in more detail. But Pages is very useable for the "serious user" and I can't agree with Kevin's assertion to the contrary. But anyway, I encourage everybody who thinks that Apple is automatically inferior in regards to accessibility to please give it a fair go. You might be surprises and very pleasantly so. Lynne On 24 Jun 2011, at 13:50, Rose Morales wrote: I'm agreeing with Lynn on this one. I've been through plenty of scenarios where someone has told me something is inaccessible, and I'm going to myself, uh, no it's not. I'll claim guilt for this as well. I've thought things were inaccessible only to find out that they, in fact, are. I think Lynn said it best when she used the word innovative. Some people feel, it isn't accomplished the way it is in Windows, so it therefore can't be done at all. I say if you really love the OS X platform, you'll love the research you might need to do to figure out how to accomplish a specific task. As for Pages, I did my own thorough investigation of it yesterday. It's really not as bad as people are making it out to be. It does some things I didn't know it could do. That being footnotes, endnotes, track changes, table of contents, indexes, and outlines. I was quite impressed with the inspector window as well. Let's also not forget that headers and footers are a breeze. Additionally, a footnote or endnote gets that same extra field the way headers and footers do, so you have no excuse for placing it in the wrong part of the document. Section breaks and endnotes can also be very useful. I'm starting to think this is a great app for research papers. Now, complaints regarding importing documents over to Office may be valid if you're dealing with complex formatting. But your average user won't need that. Bottom line? I think Pqges does a lot more than we give it credit for. Ok, it's not Office. But not everyone needs all that Office has to offer. I encourage all of you to think about your situation, re-evaluate. Pages might just work in your particular scenario. If you're not sure that it will, check out the Pages user guide. Apple has manuals for pretty much all their built-in apps. From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 15:45:52 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:45:52 -0700 Subject: xld: how to submit to a cd db? In-Reply-To: References: <188E357E-A238-4412-BE6B-2CC1A1E019E4@mac-access.net> <5FDBED5D-51DE-40FF-AC5D-6316EB9F2A05@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0EF3D762-15FC-499A-B6BD-5A23627608E7@gmail.com> lol. I cannot program my way out of a maise so will contact the dev. I just copy pasted and submitted the thing to gracenote with itunes so hopefully it will pick it up. I think thetags were some how writen to the cd but I'll have to dig an article up to find it. Thanks all for your help. On Jun 24, 2011, at 3:18 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > The problem is to be honest with you that some people just make things worse by their dreadful typing and spelling so that submissions are actually unhelpful. But you have to remember that XLD is freeware, so you take it as is or, alternatively, contact the developers or have somebody modify the source code for you. It's all there in the package. :) > > Lynne > > On 24 Jun 2011, at 07:56, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > OH wonderful! too bad it won't let you submit to a cddb. that would help everyone around. lol! > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 16:28:41 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:28:41 -0700 Subject: Altec Lansing Octiv 650 Message-ID: <0AE45054-652B-41A4-A862-DCDAB1642025@gmail.com> I'm scared to know the price of these. lol! If this is the wrong list, sorry. Take care and the link is below. Altec Lansing Octiv 650 The Altec Lansing Octiv 650 is one of best-sounding iPod/iPhone speaker docks in its price class, with a distinct, stylish look and component video output to boot. -------------- next part -------------- http://cnet.co/meO97e From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jun 24 16:49:03 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:49:03 -0500 Subject: Apple's Directional Audio In-Reply-To: <1EB60A5E-5294-487E-B0CF-F51D73CD8854@computing.dcu.ie> References: <8FACE057-E10C-4CA3-866D-11B51995FC30@blueyonder.co.uk> <1EB60A5E-5294-487E-B0CF-F51D73CD8854@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: This isn't new. Game developers have been using this for years. I certainly hope apple doesn't get the patent, then try to shut down these developers because they're using components of apple's technology. This is the problem with patents, they are written to cover one thing, but very often, get expanded to cover areas not intended by the original filing. If apple goes that route, it could set back vi gaming by several years. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Jun 24 16:51:21 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:51:21 +0100 Subject: Apple's Directional Audio In-Reply-To: References: <8FACE057-E10C-4CA3-866D-11B51995FC30@blueyonder.co.uk> <1EB60A5E-5294-487E-B0CF-F51D73CD8854@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: I'm not sure they can Travis. The algorithms for HRTF etc are out there for years and are published so there's prior art on them. I'd say they might get a patent on some of the audio node stuff but that's about it.. He says hopefully! On 24 Jun 2011, at 16:49, Travis Siegel wrote: > This isn't new. Game developers have been using this for years. I certainly hope apple doesn't get the patent, then try to shut down these developers because they're using components of apple's technology. This is the problem with patents, they are written to cover one thing, but very often, get expanded to cover areas not intended by the original filing. If apple goes that route, it could set back vi gaming by several years. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jun 24 16:52:07 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:52:07 -0500 Subject: Removing a partition from a flash drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In your utilities folder, you'll find an application called disk utility. When you run it, it will show you all the drives on your machine. If your thumb drive is plugged in, it will show that one too. Just select it, then you can delete the partitions, and create one big one to fill all the room on the disk. Hope this helps. From rose at chicksdigmacs.net Fri Jun 24 17:03:32 2011 From: rose at chicksdigmacs.net (Rose Morales) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:03:32 -0400 Subject: Removing a partition from a flash drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4087920B-185B-4277-B1A6-C919EE160AA8@chicksdigmacs.net> Thanks, Travis. That worked. I was a little confused, as I don't know how that extra partition got there. I knew about Disk Ytility, but I didn't know you could create partitions with it. You learn something new every day. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > In your utilities folder, you'll find an application called disk utility. When you run it, it will show you all the drives on your machine. If your thumb drive is plugged in, it will show that one too. Just select it, then you can delete the partitions, and create one big one to fill all the room on the disk. > Hope this helps. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Fri Jun 24 17:31:42 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:31:42 -0400 Subject: Apple's Directional Audio In-Reply-To: References: <8FACE057-E10C-4CA3-866D-11B51995FC30@blueyonder.co.uk> <1EB60A5E-5294-487E-B0CF-F51D73CD8854@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <0LNA002CMZ8XS1L1@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> Speaking of vi gaming, where can I get nightjar for the iPhone? And what games are out there for the Mac? Matthew Chao At 11:49 AM 6/24/2011, you wrote: >This isn't new. Game developers have been using this for years. I >certainly hope apple doesn't get the patent, then try to shut down >these developers because they're using components of apple's >technology. This is the problem with patents, they are written to >cover one thing, but very often, get expanded to cover areas not >intended by the original filing. If apple goes that route, it could >set back vi gaming by several years. > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 17:33:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:33:40 -0700 Subject: Apple's Directional Audio In-Reply-To: <0LNA002CMZ8XS1L1@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> References: <8FACE057-E10C-4CA3-866D-11B51995FC30@blueyonder.co.uk> <1EB60A5E-5294-487E-B0CF-F51D73CD8854@computing.dcu.ie> <0LNA002CMZ8XS1L1@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Nightjar is on.y for the UK and the rest of the world for now. It is not out in the us as of yet. but take a look at http://applevis.com for a lot of games and app that are quite useful. Take care On Jun 24, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Speaking of vi gaming, where can I get nightjar for the iPhone? And what games are out there for the Mac? > > Matthew Chao > > At 11:49 AM 6/24/2011, you wrote: >> This isn't new. Game developers have been using this for years. I >> certainly hope apple doesn't get the patent, then try to shut down >> these developers because they're using components of apple's >> technology. This is the problem with patents, they are written to >> cover one thing, but very often, get expanded to cover areas not >> intended by the original filing. If apple goes that route, it could >> set back vi gaming by several years. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jun 24 18:07:35 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:07:35 -0300 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question (continued) Message-ID: Hi again folks: I am trying to adjust the degree of movement through a file using the left and right cursor keys by using the Plus and minus keys (zoom in and zoom out.) It appears to be making no difference at all. For the record: I have loaded a large MP3 audio book in to Amadeus Pro. Any thoughts? The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 24 18:15:44 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 03:15:44 +1000 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question (continued) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E04C640.6020706@internode.on.net> You can check your progress by doing the following. * Go to the top of the file with option-home * Press the right arrow key to advance through the file, just press it once. * Now press command-g, this brings up the "Go To" dialogue box, navigate this and you'll see the time displayed in relation to where the insertion point is, if the right arrow key you pressed in the last step moved the insertion point then you'll see by how much in the displayed time field, press escape out of here. * Now go the beginning of the file again and press the - key, to adjust the zoom and press the right arrow key again. * Open the "Go to Time" properties as described above and check the displayed time, the displayed time should be greater than the last value so in other words the cursor key should hav advanced you further in your file than it it did the first time you pressed. * Keep repeating this procedure till your comfortable with the incroment of movement you need. Now the other thing to remember here is that the cursor only moves the insertion point, you have to move the playhead to the insertion point, this is done with command-shift-y, command-y moves insertion point to play head so perhaps this is why you don't notice anything when you use the cursor keys to move, you're moving the insertion point but you're not moving the playhead. On 25/06/2011 3:07 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi again folks: > > I am trying to adjust the degree of movement through a file using the left and right cursor keys by using the Plus and minus keys (zoom in and zoom out.) > > It appears to be making no difference at all. > > For the record: I have loaded a large MP3 audio book in to Amadeus Pro. > > Any thoughts? > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net From david.mclean at cox.net Fri Jun 24 19:52:25 2011 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:52:25 -0400 Subject: Altec Lansing Octiv 650 In-Reply-To: <0AE45054-652B-41A4-A862-DCDAB1642025@gmail.com> References: <0AE45054-652B-41A4-A862-DCDAB1642025@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D2BF42D-5B94-4FA1-B909-6B95D7C231E7@cox.net> $199 On Jun 24, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'm scared to know the price of these. lol! If this is the wrong list, sorry. > > Take care and the link is below. > > Altec Lansing Octiv 650 > > The Altec Lansing Octiv 650 is one of best-sounding iPod/iPhone speaker docks in its price class, with a distinct, stylish look and component video output to boot. > > > http://cnet.co/meO97e<--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 24 21:05:49 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 06:05:49 +1000 Subject: Bringing back deleted apps to the Ipad Message-ID: <17708368-D402-4FFF-8611-EF2287907DE1@internode.on.net> Hi! Can someone remind me of what I have to do here? I see the app I want in the Apps table and interact with it and I see the checkbox for the app but I can't change it from unchecked. From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 21:42:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:42:19 -0700 Subject: Bringing back deleted apps to the Ipad In-Reply-To: <17708368-D402-4FFF-8611-EF2287907DE1@internode.on.net> References: <17708368-D402-4FFF-8611-EF2287907DE1@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <8F6230AC-AE5A-4DD2-AE2D-F8EF74B84F5A@gmail.com> Hello. Just hit space. the state should change. This is a long standing bug in itunes that I dislike. Take care. On Jun 24, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Can someone remind me of what I have to do here? > > I see the app I want in the Apps table and interact with it and I see the checkbox for the app but I can't change it from unchecked. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 21:43:12 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:43:12 -0700 Subject: Altec Lansing Octiv 650 In-Reply-To: <4D2BF42D-5B94-4FA1-B909-6B95D7C231E7@cox.net> References: <0AE45054-652B-41A4-A862-DCDAB1642025@gmail.com> <4D2BF42D-5B94-4FA1-B909-6B95D7C231E7@cox.net> Message-ID: <76783EAE-628D-40BC-92BC-6215FF0BDC9B@gmail.com> Yep. I"m scared of the price, but I've heard similar speakers and they sound just beautiful. it sounds just right and well ballenced. good luck to the ones who get one and may you enjoy it. Take care all. On Jun 24, 2011, at 11:52 AM, David McLean wrote: > $199 > On Jun 24, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'm scared to know the price of these. lol! If this is the wrong list, sorry. >> >> Take care and the link is below. >> >> Altec Lansing Octiv 650 >> >> The Altec Lansing Octiv 650 is one of best-sounding iPod/iPhone speaker docks in its price class, with a distinct, stylish look and component video output to boot. >> >> >> http://cnet.co/meO97e<--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 21:44:19 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:44:19 -0700 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question (continued) In-Reply-To: <4E04C640.6020706@internode.on.net> References: <4E04C640.6020706@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <9903D2BF-0F00-4734-ABC9-485FDA767C58@gmail.com> Actually you can just start playing and hit p to place a marker. I do this all the time when editing. Good luck. On Jun 24, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > You can check your progress by doing the following. > > * Go to the top of the file with option-home > * Press the right arrow key to advance through the file, just press > it once. > * Now press command-g, this brings up the "Go To" dialogue box, > navigate this and you'll see the time displayed in relation to > where the insertion point is, if the right arrow key you pressed > in the last step moved the insertion point then you'll see by how > much in the displayed time field, press escape out of here. > * Now go the beginning of the file again and press the - key, to > adjust the zoom and press the right arrow key again. > * Open the "Go to Time" properties as described above and check the > displayed time, the displayed time should be greater than the last > value so in other words the cursor key should hav advanced you > further in your file than it it did the first time you pressed. > * Keep repeating this procedure till your comfortable with the > incroment of movement you need. > > > Now the other thing to remember here is that the cursor only moves the insertion point, you have to move the playhead to the insertion point, this is done with command-shift-y, command-y moves insertion point to play head so perhaps this is why you don't notice anything when you use the cursor keys to move, you're moving the insertion point but you're not moving the playhead. > > > > On 25/06/2011 3:07 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> Hi again folks: >> >> I am trying to adjust the degree of movement through a file using the left and right cursor keys by using the Plus and minus keys (zoom in and zoom out.) >> >> It appears to be making no difference at all. >> >> For the record: I have loaded a large MP3 audio book in to Amadeus Pro. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > skype callto:grtdane12 > MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 22:00:21 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:00:21 +0100 Subject: chromevox? Message-ID: hi all can we as mac users get this chromevox screenreader, to work with chrome browser on the mac From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 24 22:10:17 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 07:10:17 +1000 Subject: Bringing back deleted apps to the Ipad In-Reply-To: <8F6230AC-AE5A-4DD2-AE2D-F8EF74B84F5A@gmail.com> References: <17708368-D402-4FFF-8611-EF2287907DE1@internode.on.net> <8F6230AC-AE5A-4DD2-AE2D-F8EF74B84F5A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yep, that seems to have fixed it, thanks! On 25/06/2011, at 6:42 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. Just hit space. the state should change. This is a long standing bug in itunes that I dislike. > > Take care. > On Jun 24, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Can someone remind me of what I have to do here? >> >> I see the app I want in the Apps table and interact with it and I see the checkbox for the app but I can't change it from unchecked. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Jun 24 22:11:12 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 07:11:12 +1000 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question (continued) In-Reply-To: <9903D2BF-0F00-4734-ABC9-485FDA767C58@gmail.com> References: <4E04C640.6020706@internode.on.net> <9903D2BF-0F00-4734-ABC9-485FDA767C58@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7B8A436D-7E82-4634-BA3A-F4896D93B0AE@internode.on.net> What's that got to do with seeing what the cursor is doing and how far its moved? Yeah, I use markers too? On 25/06/2011, at 6:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually you can just start playing and hit p to place a marker. I do this all the time when editing. > > Good luck. > On Jun 24, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> You can check your progress by doing the following. >> >> * Go to the top of the file with option-home >> * Press the right arrow key to advance through the file, just press >> it once. >> * Now press command-g, this brings up the "Go To" dialogue box, >> navigate this and you'll see the time displayed in relation to >> where the insertion point is, if the right arrow key you pressed >> in the last step moved the insertion point then you'll see by how >> much in the displayed time field, press escape out of here. >> * Now go the beginning of the file again and press the - key, to >> adjust the zoom and press the right arrow key again. >> * Open the "Go to Time" properties as described above and check the >> displayed time, the displayed time should be greater than the last >> value so in other words the cursor key should hav advanced you >> further in your file than it it did the first time you pressed. >> * Keep repeating this procedure till your comfortable with the >> incroment of movement you need. >> >> >> Now the other thing to remember here is that the cursor only moves the insertion point, you have to move the playhead to the insertion point, this is done with command-shift-y, command-y moves insertion point to play head so perhaps this is why you don't notice anything when you use the cursor keys to move, you're moving the insertion point but you're not moving the playhead. >> >> >> >> On 25/06/2011 3:07 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> Hi again folks: >>> >>> I am trying to adjust the degree of movement through a file using the left and right cursor keys by using the Plus and minus keys (zoom in and zoom out.) >>> >>> It appears to be making no difference at all. >>> >>> For the record: I have loaded a large MP3 audio book in to Amadeus Pro. >>> >>> Any thoughts? >>> >>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jun 24 22:51:30 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:51:30 -0300 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question (continued) In-Reply-To: <7B8A436D-7E82-4634-BA3A-F4896D93B0AE@internode.on.net> References: <4E04C640.6020706@internode.on.net> <9903D2BF-0F00-4734-ABC9-485FDA767C58@gmail.com> <7B8A436D-7E82-4634-BA3A-F4896D93B0AE@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hi gang: I'm not sure if I'm making myself clear: If I press the right/left cursor keys, I can travel back and forth through the audio file audibly in real time. The problem is that I want to be able to determine the amount of time that these cursor keys use and hear the change in real time. In other audio file editors, the zoom-in and zoom-out functions affect this kind of operation. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Amadeus Pro Question (continued) > What's that got to do with seeing what the cursor is doing and how far its > moved? > > Yeah, I use markers too? > > > On 25/06/2011, at 6:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually you can just start playing and hit p to place a marker. I do >> this all the time when editing. >> >> Good luck. >> On Jun 24, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> You can check your progress by doing the following. >>> >>> * Go to the top of the file with option-home >>> * Press the right arrow key to advance through the file, just press >>> it once. >>> * Now press command-g, this brings up the "Go To" dialogue box, >>> navigate this and you'll see the time displayed in relation to >>> where the insertion point is, if the right arrow key you pressed >>> in the last step moved the insertion point then you'll see by how >>> much in the displayed time field, press escape out of here. >>> * Now go the beginning of the file again and press the - key, to >>> adjust the zoom and press the right arrow key again. >>> * Open the "Go to Time" properties as described above and check the >>> displayed time, the displayed time should be greater than the last >>> value so in other words the cursor key should hav advanced you >>> further in your file than it it did the first time you pressed. >>> * Keep repeating this procedure till your comfortable with the >>> incroment of movement you need. >>> >>> >>> Now the other thing to remember here is that the cursor only moves the >>> insertion point, you have to move the playhead to the insertion point, >>> this is done with command-shift-y, command-y moves insertion point to >>> play head so perhaps this is why you don't notice anything when you use >>> the cursor keys to move, you're moving the insertion point but you're >>> not moving the playhead. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 25/06/2011 3:07 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>> Hi again folks: >>>> >>>> I am trying to adjust the degree of movement through a file using the >>>> left and right cursor keys by using the Plus and minus keys (zoom in >>>> and zoom out.) >>>> >>>> It appears to be making no difference at all. >>>> >>>> For the record: I have loaded a large MP3 audio book in to Amadeus >>>> Pro. >>>> >>>> Any thoughts? >>>> >>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy >>>> Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>> signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>>> the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dane Trethowan >>> From Melton Victoria Australia >>> skype callto:grtdane12 >>> MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to >>> the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to >> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact >> me my info is below. >> >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the >> Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 23:11:02 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:11:02 -0700 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question (continued) In-Reply-To: References: <4E04C640.6020706@internode.on.net> <9903D2BF-0F00-4734-ABC9-485FDA767C58@gmail.com> <7B8A436D-7E82-4634-BA3A-F4896D93B0AE@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <86C6CAC9-2DF5-46C8-B234-8089A90D3CE3@gmail.com> Oh in that case, that won't work. but someone contacted the devs about this and I encourage you to join the amadeus discussion list at http://two.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/forum_list to communicate directly with the dev an everybody else on there On Jun 24, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi gang: > > I'm not sure if I'm making myself clear: If I press the right/left cursor keys, I can travel back and forth through the audio file audibly in real time. The problem is that I want to be able to determine the amount of time that these cursor keys use and hear the change in real time. In other audio file editors, the zoom-in and zoom-out functions affect this kind of operation. > > Thanks. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: Amadeus Pro Question (continued) > > >> What's that got to do with seeing what the cursor is doing and how far its moved? >> >> Yeah, I use markers too? >> >> >> On 25/06/2011, at 6:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually you can just start playing and hit p to place a marker. I do this all the time when editing. >>> >>> Good luck. >>> On Jun 24, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>>> You can check your progress by doing the following. >>>> >>>> * Go to the top of the file with option-home >>>> * Press the right arrow key to advance through the file, just press >>>> it once. >>>> * Now press command-g, this brings up the "Go To" dialogue box, >>>> navigate this and you'll see the time displayed in relation to >>>> where the insertion point is, if the right arrow key you pressed >>>> in the last step moved the insertion point then you'll see by how >>>> much in the displayed time field, press escape out of here. >>>> * Now go the beginning of the file again and press the - key, to >>>> adjust the zoom and press the right arrow key again. >>>> * Open the "Go to Time" properties as described above and check the >>>> displayed time, the displayed time should be greater than the last >>>> value so in other words the cursor key should hav advanced you >>>> further in your file than it it did the first time you pressed. >>>> * Keep repeating this procedure till your comfortable with the >>>> incroment of movement you need. >>>> >>>> >>>> Now the other thing to remember here is that the cursor only moves the insertion point, you have to move the playhead to the insertion point, this is done with command-shift-y, command-y moves insertion point to play head so perhaps this is why you don't notice anything when you use the cursor keys to move, you're moving the insertion point but you're not moving the playhead. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 25/06/2011 3:07 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>>> Hi again folks: >>>>> >>>>> I am trying to adjust the degree of movement through a file using the left and right cursor keys by using the Plus and minus keys (zoom in and zoom out.) >>>>> >>>>> It appears to be making no difference at all. >>>>> >>>>> For the record: I have loaded a large MP3 audio book in to Amadeus Pro. >>>>> >>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ >>>>> >>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dane Trethowan >>>> From Melton Victoria Australia >>>> skype callto:grtdane12 >>>> MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From krbarry at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 23:37:47 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:37:47 -0400 Subject: MS Office accessibility In-Reply-To: <88639DAF-9091-4A2B-AADE-25B3F0459895@mac-access.net> References: <14FA9DC4-A0F1-4280-8FC5-5AD529E68529@charter.net> <4e046656.a44ee50a.1779.4b36@mx.google.com> <88639DAF-9091-4A2B-AADE-25B3F0459895@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4e0511a1.a2ae340a.0c64.3f4a@mx.google.com> Innovative, is too often a way of saying, needing to work around accessability issues. Kevin At 07:48 AM 6/24/2011, you wrote: >Hello kevin > >On 24 Jun 2011, at 11:26, Kevin Barry wrote: > >? Well, IWork is somewhat accessible. >You can use it some; but if you are a serious >user you will not be able to do nearly what you can do with Office on a PC. > >Please don't take this in any way personally; >but I'm amazed by that comment to be honest. I >also wonder whether, in some people's cases, the >presumption of inaccessibility is due to a lack >of knowledge. I'm not implying that that's the >case with you; but I know that some people have >posted about things being inaccessible or not >working and in actual fact it has turned out to >be a lack of knowledge which has caused them to >think that. Actually in all fairness that >probably applies to myself on a couple of occasions. > >But I submit that there are some "serious >users", to use your terminology, on this list; >and they use iWork and similar tools to >accomplish everything. In fact, many of us use >nothing in Windows now; we still manage to >accomplish what we need on this platform. And >yes, some users do produce some very >sophisticated documents using OS X. I think that >sometimes it depends upon how innovative you're prepared to be. > >Lynne > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your >message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find a monthly formatted archive of all >messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed >malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership >options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jun 24 23:37:52 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:37:52 -0500 Subject: Apple's Directional Audio In-Reply-To: <0LNA002CMZ8XS1L1@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> References: <8FACE057-E10C-4CA3-866D-11B51995FC30@blueyonder.co.uk> <1EB60A5E-5294-487E-B0CF-F51D73CD8854@computing.dcu.ie> <0LNA002CMZ8XS1L1@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <743DBE7F-B422-41EA-9164-42C9AD7A4C26@softcon.com> On Jun 24, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Speaking of vi gaming, where can I get nightjar for the iPhone? > And what games are out there for the Mac? You can get the nightjar app at the app store. As for games on the mac, there's a couple places to find them, though the only one I know off the top of my head is my softcon mac pages located at: http://mac.softcon.com From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Jun 25 00:04:39 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:04:39 +1000 Subject: Amadeus Pro Question (continued) In-Reply-To: References: <4E04C640.6020706@internode.on.net> <9903D2BF-0F00-4734-ABC9-485FDA767C58@gmail.com> <7B8A436D-7E82-4634-BA3A-F4896D93B0AE@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <0F761253-B88C-44C2-AE09-153904641350@internode.on.net> Yep you made yourself clear and I explained how you can determine that. On 25/06/2011, at 7:51 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi gang: > > I'm not sure if I'm making myself clear: If I press the right/left cursor keys, I can travel back and forth through the audio file audibly in real time. The problem is that I want to be able to determine the amount of time that these cursor keys use and hear the change in real time. In other audio file editors, the zoom-in and zoom-out functions affect this kind of operation. > > Thanks. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: Amadeus Pro Question (continued) > > >> What's that got to do with seeing what the cursor is doing and how far its moved? >> >> Yeah, I use markers too? >> >> >> On 25/06/2011, at 6:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually you can just start playing and hit p to place a marker. I do this all the time when editing. >>> >>> Good luck. >>> On Jun 24, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>>> You can check your progress by doing the following. >>>> >>>> * Go to the top of the file with option-home >>>> * Press the right arrow key to advance through the file, just press >>>> it once. >>>> * Now press command-g, this brings up the "Go To" dialogue box, >>>> navigate this and you'll see the time displayed in relation to >>>> where the insertion point is, if the right arrow key you pressed >>>> in the last step moved the insertion point then you'll see by how >>>> much in the displayed time field, press escape out of here. >>>> * Now go the beginning of the file again and press the - key, to >>>> adjust the zoom and press the right arrow key again. >>>> * Open the "Go to Time" properties as described above and check the >>>> displayed time, the displayed time should be greater than the last >>>> value so in other words the cursor key should hav advanced you >>>> further in your file than it it did the first time you pressed. >>>> * Keep repeating this procedure till your comfortable with the >>>> incroment of movement you need. >>>> >>>> >>>> Now the other thing to remember here is that the cursor only moves the insertion point, you have to move the playhead to the insertion point, this is done with command-shift-y, command-y moves insertion point to play head so perhaps this is why you don't notice anything when you use the cursor keys to move, you're moving the insertion point but you're not moving the playhead. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 25/06/2011 3:07 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>>> Hi again folks: >>>>> >>>>> I am trying to adjust the degree of movement through a file using the left and right cursor keys by using the Plus and minus keys (zoom in and zoom out.) >>>>> >>>>> It appears to be making no difference at all. >>>>> >>>>> For the record: I have loaded a large MP3 audio book in to Amadeus Pro. >>>>> >>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6236 (20110624) __________ >>>>> >>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dane Trethowan >>>> From Melton Victoria Australia >>>> skype callto:grtdane12 >>>> MSN: grtdane at dane-trethowan.net >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following website: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. 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